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> Thanx for this info Rainer we need more traveling threads like this!
> i am not really sure but i thought i read sometime you been changing loop=
ing software lately are u using mobius as your main looper?

Thanks, Luis.
Regarding your question: I don't know where you read that ;). Fact is,
I have been considering switching my entire musical framework away
from what I use now (basically Ableton Live as a software mixer/VST
host with Mobius as the main looper and a bunch of other VST/Live
effects) to something more flexible, and while I've been thinking
about using PureData, I've yet to even start doing a first setup of
it.

The reason for that idea is that with the change from my slightly more
song-oriented live programme (working title "loop4life"), which I did
at the Y2k6loopfest and also on my "Weird Specialist" album, to the
trombone-centered programme (working title "R=FCbezahl"), as found on my
"Wie gro=DF ist die Luft ?" album from my last tour [see the jamendo
link below for these albums], a lot of the functions provided by
Ableton Live are no longer of use to me and, on the other hand, the
flexibility in automation, routing and processing which is promised by
more "abstract" platforms like MAX/MSP or PureData is lacking in Live.

To cut a long story short: this is rather a big step to take - perhaps
later on ;). But in the meantime, I wait for the release of Live 8,
which seems to contain some functionality of MAX/MSP, so this may just
be the step in between for me.

I'm curious myself: while I've noticed you as an EDP user in the past,
just recently you had a lot of trouble with IEEE1493 and the like -
have you moved to Mobius as well?

Cheers,

              Rainer

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> in the meantime, I wait for the release of Live 8,
> which seems to contain some functionality of MAX/MSP, so this may just
> be the step in between for me.

Hey, Rainer - I'm looking forward to hear your take on Live 8!
Especially since you seem interested in invesing in the Max For Live
add-on to customize the whole shebang to your heart's delight.

I was just checking out the Live 8 beta last week and the new plug-in
"Looper" has a rock solid tempo master sync domination over the total
application. This means you can simply "hit record, make some noise
and hit record again" to  have Live follow the tempo set by that first
loop. From that moment you get the global tempo of Live to direct all
tempo dependent audio plug-ins, other loopers, MIDI sequencer loops or
whatever stuff you may have mocked up in Max For Live.

I don't think I will have a window to go fully into this nice new
looping rig opportunity, since I'm getting more busy over time with my
simple Mainstage-into-Mobius setup. And of course one strong point for
me is that I like the sounds I get out of chaining the Logic effects
together as Mainstage patches. Seems Apple swallowed me at last ;-)
Oh, well...

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Wow that sound excellent!=0Aif my long syncing hopes become real with that =
then i will join live as well!=0Aso my sync dream would be importing a drum=
 groove sample of my liking,pausing it then building a loop of my own and t=
rigger the sample and have it stretch autmatically to my loop,sort of like =
the groove clip looping in Sonar or Acid,then offcourse all time based efx =
following=0Adoes my dream have a hope?=0A=0A=0A=0A> =0A> Hey, Rainer - I'm =
looking forward to hear your take on Live=0A> 8!=0A> Especially since you s=
eem interested in invesing in the Max=0A> For Live=0A> add-on to customize =
the whole shebang to your heart's=0A> delight.=0A> =0A> I was just checking=
 out the Live 8 beta last week and the=0A> new plug-in=0A> "Looper" has a r=
ock solid tempo master sync domination over=0A> the total=0A> application. =
This means you can simply "hit record, make=0A> some noise=0A> and hit reco=
rd again" to=A0 have Live follow the tempo=0A> set by that first=0A> loop. =
>From that moment you get the global tempo of Live to=0A> direct all=0A> tem=
po dependent audio plug-ins, other loopers, MIDI=0A> sequencer loops or=0A>=
 whatever stuff you may have mocked up in Max For Live.=0A> =0A> I don't th=
ink I will have a window to go fully into this=0A> nice new=0A> looping rig=
 opportunity, since I'm getting more busy over=0A> time with my=0A> simple =
Mainstage-into-Mobius setup. And of course one=0A> strong point for=0A> me =
is that I like the sounds I get out of chaining the=0A> Logic effects=0A> t=
ogether as Mainstage patches. Seems Apple swallowed me at=0A> last ;-)=0A> =
Oh, well...=0A> =0A> Greetings from Sweden=0A> =0A> Per Boysen=0A> www.boys=
en.se=0A> www.perboysen.com=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A      

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> my sync dream would be importing a drum groove sample of my liking,pausin=
g it then building a loop of my own and trigger the sample and have it stre=
tch autmatically to my loop,sort of like the groove clip looping in Sonar o=
r Acid,then offcourse all time based efx following
> does my dream have a hope?

Ableton Live 8 seems good for that. HOpe is on your side! :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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http://vimeo.com/album/78733

with me doing the usual Ableton Live/Augustus Loop soundscaping &
guitar looping.


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> I'm curious myself: while I've noticed you as an EDP user=0A> in the past=
,=0A> just recently you had a lot of trouble with IEEE1493 and=0A> the like=
 -=0A> have you moved to Mobius as well?=0A> =0A> Cheers,=0A> =0A> =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer=0A=0AYes ever since i came back from Y2K8 in San=
ta Cruz california i started observing the staggering prices for excess bag=
gage,damaged equipment(my MO-FX came without a knob and screws once even th=
ough it was packed nicely and carefully in one fo my bags which makes me ra=
ther think they messed around with it to inspect a possible bomb) and compl=
icated current situation in airports.=0AThats when i started considering th=
e laptop route so i got a macbook and dowloaded Mobius which ive been using=
 ever since.Ive actually been quite happy with it,but the recent problem wi=
th my firewire problems also made me realize how fragile this things are an=
d think what if that happened while i wes traveling or at a gig.I still don=
t know what went wrong,if it was a FW cable that burned my PCI card,RME,Pre=
sonus and macbook FW port,then i d be terrified to do a tour with this,i di=
dnt know that a FW cable can cause such damage!this its been a nightmare la=
tely and it has costed me time and money.=0AI know now that nothing beats t=
he flexibility of software,after combining features of an EDP,LP1,Repeater,=
DL4 and every looper i liked and tried into a single piece of software with=
 a big screen and not having to carry and mess around in the back of the ra=
ck with a flashlight it would probably be hard to go back to that.On the ot=
her hand i miss the feeling of simplicity an reliability from stomp boxes a=
nd even since i had the black EDP it never really let me down.=0ABut i am s=
till willing to keep exploring this route and bulid more expreience,i guess=
 there is no other way around it,wether is SW or HW you always need a backu=
p;-)=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A      

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amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
            target=3D_blank>hier</a>.</font><br>            =
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border=3D0>
        <tbody>
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	&#9;&#9;&#9;&#9;&#9;&#9;&#9;http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D=
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bgColor=3D#ffffff=20
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rowSpan=3D2>&nbsp;</td>
          <td vAlign=3Dtop width=3D385>
            <p><a =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201025&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
           >Nagelneuer VW bereits ab  =80 4.713 - so geht=B4s! </a></p>
            <p><font face=3DArial size=3D2><a =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201025&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
           >Die Umwelt- oder Abwrackpr=E4mie, wie sie mittlerweile im =
Volksmund genannt wird, hat bereits Heerscharen von Kraftfahrzeuginhabern =
motiviert ihre Altwagen im Tausch mit einem Neuwagenzuschuss zu =
verschrotten. &gt;&gt;&gt;mehr </a></a></font></p>
            <p><img=20
            =
src=3D"http://www.oxford-business-news.com/images/mhsignature.gif"><br><fon=
t=20
            face=3DArial size=3D2>Ihr Matthew Holmes =
<br>(Chefredakteur)</font></p>
            <table cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D"100%" border=3D0>
              <tbody>
             =20
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2><p><span =
class=3D"style1"><span class=3D"style1"></span></span></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201022&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank class=3D"style1"><img height=3D80=20
                  =
src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/img/pk-vergleich-klein.jpg" =
width=3D80=20
                  border=3D0></a></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><p class=3D"style1"><font =
size=3D2><strong><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201022&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank>Bei den Gro=DFen 4 privat =
krankenversichert? Jetzt dringend pr=FCfen! </a></strong></font></p>
                    <p class=3D"style1"><font size=3D2>Viele Tarife der =
privaten Krankenkassen sind aus Expertensicht nicht ideal. Nur noch bis =
zum 30.06.09 haben sie den Chance auf einen Wechsel ohne Verlust der =
Altersr=FCckstellungen. <a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201022&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank=20
                 >&gt;&gt;&gt;mehr...</a></font></p></td>
              </tr>
             =20
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2><p><span =
class=3D"style1"><span class=3D"style1"></span></span></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201020&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank class=3D"style1"><img height=3D80=20
                  =
src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/img/schadensersatz-klein2.jpg"=20
                  width=3D80 border=3D0></a></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><p class=3D"style1"><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201020&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank><font size=3D2><strong> =09

Mehr als 75% aller vertraglichen Schadensersatzforderungen stammen aus =
Nichterf=FCllung von Vereinbarungen=85 wie k=F6nnen Sie Ihr Unternehmen =
davor sch=FCtzen?</strong></font></a></p>
                    <p class=3D"style1"><font size=3D2>Die Anzahl von =
Schadensersatzforderungen an Unternehmen stieg in den letzten Jahren =
stetig an. Mehr als 75% davon resultierten aus der Nichterf=FCllung von =
vertraglichen Vereinbarungen.  <a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201020&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank=20
                 >&gt;&gt;&gt;mehr...</a></font></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2><p><span =
class=3D"style1"><span class=3D"style1"></span></span></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201021&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank class=3D"style1"><img=20
                  =
src=3D"http://www.oxford-business-news.com/img/satellitentechnik-klein.jpg"=
 width=3D"80" height=3D"80"=20
                  border=3D0></a></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><p class=3D"style1"><font =
size=3D2><strong><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201021&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank>So verdient Ihr Hausdach Geld mit =
Satellitentechnik</a></strong></font></p>
                    <p class=3D"style1"><font size=3D2>Die steigenden =
Strompreise belasten Haushalte und Unternehmen in einem mittlerweile kaum =
noch zumutbaren Ma=DF. Immer mehr Menschen entscheiden sich daher f=FCr =
eine Photovoltaikanlage ( also eine Anlage, die Strom aus Sonnenlicht =
produziert) auf ihrem Dach, denn damit verdient man Geld, statt es =
auszugeben=2E

 <a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201021&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank=20
                 >&gt;&gt;&gt;mehr...</a></font></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2><p><span =
class=3D"style1"><span class=3D"style1"></span></span></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201023&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank class=3D"style1"><img height=3D80=20
                  =
src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/img/otte-klein.gif"=20
                  width=3D80 border=3D0></a></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><p class=3D"style1"><font =
size=3D2><strong><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201023&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank>Was tun mit dem angelegten Geld? Jetzt =
handeln oder weiter Verluste machen...</a></strong></font> </p>
                    <p class=3D"style1"><font size=3D2>In seinem =
Bestseller =84Die Krise kommt=93 hat der Wirtschaftswissenschaftler Prof. =
Dr. Max Otte die jetzige Weltwirtschaftskrise schon vor Jahren vorher =
gesagt und davor gewarnt. Damit war er nicht der Einzige. Darauf =
vorbereitet waren die wenigsten=2E

<a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201023&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank=20
                 >&gt;&gt;&gt;mehr...</a></font></p></td>
              </tr>
             =20
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2><p><span =
class=3D"style1"><span class=3D"style1"></span></span></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201036&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank class=3D"style1"><img height=3D80=20
                  =
src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/img/fonic-klein.jpg"=20
                  width=3D80 border=3D0></a></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><p class=3D"style1"><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201036&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank><font size=3D2><strong>Handytelefonate =
ins Ausland ab 9 Cent..=2E
</strong></font></a></p>
                    <p class=3D"style1"><font size=3D2>Wenn man heute mit =
seinem Handy ins Ausland telefoniert, kann man die Euros regelrecht durch =
die Leitung fallen h=F6ren. Internationale Gespr=E4che sind f=FCr den =
Telefonierenden immer noch ein teurer Spa=DF und f=FCr die Netzanbieter =
eine sprudelnde Einnahmequelle=2E

<a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201036&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank=20
                 >&gt;&gt;&gt;mehr...</a></font></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2>
                  <p>&nbsp;</p></td></tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201025&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank class=3D"style1"><img height=3D80=20
                  =
src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/img/abwrackpraemie-klein.jpg"=20
                  width=3D80 border=3D0></a></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><p class=3D"style1"><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201025&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank><font size=3D2><strong>Nagelneuer VW =
bereits ab =80 4.713 - so geht=B4s!</strong></font></a></p>
                    <p class=3D"style1"><font size=3D2>Die Umwelt- oder =
Abwrackpr=E4mie, wie sie mittlerweile im Volksmund genannt wird, hat =
bereits Heerscharen von Kraftfahrzeuginhabern motiviert ihre Altwagen im =
Tausch mit einem Neuwagenzuschuss zu verschrotten.<a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201025&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank=20
                 >&gt;&gt;&gt;mehr...</a></font></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop bgColor=3D#eaeff2><p><span =
class=3D"style1"><span class=3D"style1"></span></span></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201024&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank class=3D"style1"><img height=3D80=20
                  =
src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/img/selbststaendig-klein.jpg"=20
                  width=3D80 border=3D0></a></td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop>&nbsp;</td>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop><p class=3D"style1"><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201024&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank><font size=3D2><strong>Selbstst=E4ndig =
zu werden war noch nie so leicht =96 mit =FCber 40.000 =80 vom =
Staat!</strong></font></a></p>
                    <p class=3D"style1"><font size=3D2>Viele Menschen =
scheuen den Weg in die Selbstst=E4ndigkeit, da sie bef=FCrchten, sich =
finanziell zu =FCbernehmen. Dabei war es noch nie so einfach sein eigener =
Chef zu werden, denn der Staat greift einem gro=DFz=FCgig mit =
Zusch=FCssen, Beratungsf=F6rderung, zinsg=FCnstigen Krediten oder =
Lohnzusch=FCssen unter die Arme. <a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201024&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank=20
                 >&gt;&gt;&gt;mehr...</a></font></p></td>
              </tr>
              <tbody></tbody></table></td>
          <td vAlign=3Dtop width=3D20 bgColor=3D#eaeff2 =
rowSpan=3D2>&nbsp;</td>
          <td vAlign=3Dtop align=3Dmiddle width=3D250 bgColor=3D#eaeff2 =
rowSpan=3D2>
            <div align=3Dleft><br>
            <table cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D231 =
align=3Dleft border=3D0>
              <tbody>
              <tr>
                <td vAlign=3Dtop width=3D231>
                  <p><strong><font face=3DArial size=3D2>In dieser=20
                  Ausgabe:</font></strong></p>
                  <table cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D"100%" =
border=3D0>
                    <tbody>
                   =20
                    <tr>
                      <td width=3D"5%" vAlign=3Dtop><img height=3D13=20
                        src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/arrow.gif"=20
                      width=3D10></td>
                      <td width=3D"95%" vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201022&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank><font size=3D2><strong><font=20
                  face=3DArial>Bei den Gro=DFen 4 privat =
krankenversichert? Jetzt dringend pr=FCfen!</font></strong></font></a></td>
                    </tr>
                    <tr>
                      <td width=3D"5%" vAlign=3Dtop><img height=3D13=20
                        src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/arrow.gif"=20
                      width=3D10></td>
                      <td width=3D"95%" vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201020&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank><font size=3D2><strong><font=20
                  face=3DArial>Mehr als 75% aller vertraglichen =
Schadensersatzforderungen stammen aus Nichterf=FCllung von =
Vereinbarungen=85 wie k=F6nnen Sie Ihr Unternehmen davor =
sch=FCtzen?</font></strong></font></a></td>
                    </tr>
                    <tr>
                      <td vAlign=3Dtop><img height=3D13=20
                        src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/arrow.gif"=20
                      width=3D10></td>
                      <td vAlign=3Dtop><font size=3D2><strong><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201021&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank><font face=3DArial>So verdient Ihr =
Hausdach Geld mit Satellitentechnik</font></a></strong></font></td>
                    </tr>
                    <tr>
                      <td vAlign=3Dtop><img height=3D13=20
                        src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/arrow.gif"=20
                      width=3D10></td>
                      <td vAlign=3Dtop><font size=3D2><strong><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201023&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank><font face=3DArial>Was tun mit dem =
angelegten Geld? Jetzt handeln oder weiter Verluste machen... =
</font></a></strong></font></td>
                    </tr>
                    <tr>
                      <td vAlign=3Dtop><img height=3D13=20
                        src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/arrow.gif"=20
                      width=3D10></td>
                      <td vAlign=3Dtop><font size=3D2><strong><a =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201036&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                       ><font face=3DArial>Handytelefonate ins Ausland ab =
9 Cent...</font></a></strong></font></td>
                    </tr>
                    <tr>
                      <td vAlign=3Dtop><img height=3D13=20
                        src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/arrow.gif"=20
                      width=3D10></td>
                      <td vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201025&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank><font size=3D2><strong><font=20
                  face=3DArial>Nagelneuer VW bereits ab =80 4.713 - so =
geht=B4s!
                  </font></strong></font></a></td>
                    </tr>
                    <tr>
                      <td vAlign=3Dtop><img height=3D13=20
                        src=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/arrow.gif"=20
                      width=3D10></td>
                      <td vAlign=3Dtop><a=20
                  =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D53587&amp;i=3D201024&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                  target=3D_blank><font size=3D2><strong><font=20
                  face=3DArial>Selbstst=E4ndig zu werden war noch nie so =
leicht =96 mit =FCber 40.000 =80 vom Staat!</font></strong></font></a></td>
                    </tr>
                    <tbody></tbody></table>
                  <p align=3D"center"><strong><a =
href=3D"http://oxford-business-news.com/redir.php?c=3D37203&amp;i=3D138652&=
amp;u=3Dlooparc@loopers-delight.com"=20
                 ></a><br>
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http://antarestech.com/DMA/index.shtml

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Hi,

I was wondering if any one can help me with this.

I've been trying to use my Yamaha MG82cx to send audio to my Edirol UA-1EX
interface and on into my laptop. It works OK except I can't seem to 
eliminate my original sound from the output, so I end up with a ghosting
type of sound. I have direct monitoring turned off on the interface so I'm
thinking it's some routing option on the mixer that I'm overlooking.

I had a Mackie 1202 before and I think I used the Alt3/4 for this.
Do I need to get another?

Thanks,

Andre




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Looper and Y2k participant Goh Nakamura just Twittered this video of him 
playing in a hotel room (with a cool fisheye lens that gives the feeling 
of looking through the peephole..). Very simple and straightforward use 
of looping and echo with a DL4, but it's a beautiful song that is served 
well by the tool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg8-Gc8Ujqs

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Yes, very nice song and vocal interpretation

Fabio

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> Looper and Y2k participant Goh Nakamura just Twittered this video of him
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> of looking through the peephole..). Very simple and straightforward use
> of looping and echo with a DL4, but it's a beautiful song that is served
> well by the tool.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg8-Gc8Ujqs
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
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L.Angulo wrote:
>,i didnt know that a FW cable can cause such damage

Well, I was putting that forward as a possibility, I haven't yet
experienced that a shorted cable damages the firewire card in the pc.

Did you confirm that this was the case?

Luis said
>>what is puzzling me is that i conected the RME to
>> my macbook and my macbooks firewire was also fried which i


So I was thinking that if the RME wasn't to blame, must be the cable.






The firewire connectors are pretty fragile, and certainly the 
circuit board in Matthias' firewire guitar fried do to a bad connection.
I think it was the socket in that case, but the overall design isn't
robust. ( certainly not good to use a guitar lead )

The cable carries power, and there isn't much separating the power connection
to the signal connection.  

andy

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That is so terrifying. Fire wire, indeed!

USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same 
risk applies? Cables undergo stress and eventually fail as a matter of 
course. If the cable is going to jeopardize the equipment, I would limit 
myself to buying things that had an independent power supply and only 
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> The firewire connectors are pretty fragile, and certainly the circuit 
> board in Matthias' firewire guitar fried do to a bad connection.
> I think it was the socket in that case, but the overall design isn't
> robust. ( certainly not good to use a guitar lead )
>
> The cable carries power, and there isn't much separating the power 
> connection
> to the signal connection. 
> andy

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I suppose an independent power supply is subject to the same danger,
although, not a part of the same port carrying the signal. Maybe frequent
checking of cables and connectors is the answer.

Cam

2009/4/1 Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>

> That is so terrifying. Fire wire, indeed!
>
> USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same risk
> applies? Cables undergo stress and eventually fail as a matter of course. If
> the cable is going to jeopardize the equipment, I would limit myself to
> buying things that had an independent power supply and only sent signal over
> the wire.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>
>  The firewire connectors are pretty fragile, and certainly the circuit
>> board in Matthias' firewire guitar fried do to a bad connection.
>> I think it was the socket in that case, but the overall design isn't
>> robust. ( certainly not good to use a guitar lead )
>>
>> The cable carries power, and there isn't much separating the power
>> connection
>> to the signal connection. andy
>>
>
>

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That is so terrifying. Fire wire, indeed!<br>
<br>
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applies? Cables undergo stress and eventually fail as a matter of course. I=
f the cable is going to jeopardize the equipment, I would limit myself to b=
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<br>
Daryl Shawn<br>
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<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapa=
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<br>
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Now this is funny! But then again...

j


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> http://antarestech.com/DMA/index.shtml
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> -- 
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Daryl asked:
> USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same risk applies?

USB uses much lower voltage and power - to be more precise:

USB has 5V of power supply, with the signal lines being in the 0-1V
range. However, pulling signal lines high is used to signal the
transfer speed, so there is a good chance that shorting the 5V power
line with one of the signal lines will not damage the interface
circuit. Also typical semiconductor technology voltage ranges are well
above that, but I don't know whether CMOS input stages are used.

The case is different with Firewire; here, the power supply is
specified at 25V (more specifically: 24 -1/+5V), however, a lot of
laptops only supply their DC supply here. Still, that voltage is
something that could damage your input circuit if a short between the
power supply lines and the signal lines happened.

Solution: use USB. Or use 4-pin Firewire connectors. Or don't use
computers at all ;)

              Rainer

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$499! (I prefer local to portland but would consider shipping to  
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don't ship. Shipping cost paid by buyer.)

This is the Oberhiem EDP which works fine but it does have one line of  
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New Gibson EDP's (if you could get them, they seem to be very hard to  
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version software rather then the newer loop 4, but there's not that many =
differences really if I remember correctly. (Someone please let me know =
if I'm wrong about that. You can half the speed in the next version, =
right?)<br><br>I figure I'll just throw in the footswitch because the =
record button is starting to get touchy. A bit of contact cleaner could =
do it or they may need replacing. (They're only like $3-7 per button but =
takes time to find 'em and solder them and pay someone to do it. I have =
done it before for my other EDP's for maximum dependability but that was =
a long while ago.)&nbsp;<br><br>New Gibson EDP's (if you could get them, =
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Andre,

from your description it's hard to judge your problem properly, so I try:

You have your signal source (whichever) connected to some input of
your mixer. Some output of your mixer goes to your audio interface,
and the interfaces goes back into your mixer. Then the mixer goes to
some kind of PA/headphones/whatever.

When you play your source signal into the mixer, you hear it through
your PA and also some kind of slapback version of it (not phaser-kind,
more like a slapback).

It's most probable that your interface or your computer software sends
your source signal back to the mixer. To try that, why don't you
connect your source signal to your audio interface, the interface to
the PA and see if you can hear the originall source signal. If that is
the case, then the interface is the problem.

Some more throughout description of your setup (what is patched into
what, what software are you using etc.) could also help.

Best,

          Rainer

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Well Andy i am still trying to figure it out myself...=0Ahere is what i did=
:=0AMy RME FW800 was always pluged to my PC(though the RME had an issue a y=
ear before when all of the sudden it stopped working)=0AThe i disconected t=
he RME to test it with my macbook and after that plugged it back to my PC.T=
hen all of a sudden the RME stopped working.=0AThe i disconected my firebox=
 from my Mac to see if the PCI card on my PC was burned but my firebox work=
ed perfect,i even did some recording with it that night.I also used the sam=
e cable.=0ASo i sent the RME for repairs assuming it had a problem again.=
=0Athe next day i had a loop gig and i conected my firebox back with my mac=
 and did the gig with no problems.Since i needed to work on with Sonar on m=
y PC i reconected the firebox back to my PC but all of the sudden my firebo=
x also stopped working.So i reconected it to my mac to test it with another=
 cable but didnt work with it either.So i sent the firebox for repairs.=0Ab=
ecause my firebox had worked perfectly after the RME had gone bad i assumed=
 the PCI was still ok but after testing a borrowed FW external drive, the P=
CI and the macbook didnt recognize it.Then i went ahead and tested both fur=
ther with a mout Soundcard and didint work with both computers so then i re=
alized something had gone bad with both the PCI and the FW on my Mac.=0ANow=
 my mac which was i insured with the protection plan is working again,my RM=
E is on its way again repaired and the firebox will eventually get here as =
well.So though i am still nto sure what was faulty i took the PCI card out =
of my PC and trashed it and ordered a new one.Ive also made sure that all F=
W cables are working.But dont ask me what happened!=0ALuis=0A=0A=0Awww.mysp=
ace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Wed, 4/1/09, andy butler <akbutler@tis=
cali.co.uk> wrote:=0A=0A> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> Su=
bject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags=0A> To: Loopers=
-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:13 AM=0A=
> =0A> =0A> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >,i didnt know that a FW cable can cause su=
ch damage=0A> =0A> Well, I was putting that forward as a possibility, I=0A>=
 haven't yet=0A> experienced that a shorted cable damages the firewire card=
=0A> in the pc.=0A> =0A> Did you confirm that this was the case?=0A> =0A> L=
uis said=0A> >>what is puzzling me is that i conected the RME to=0A> >> my =
macbook and my macbooks firewire was also fried=0A> which i=0A> =0A> =0A> S=
o I was thinking that if the RME wasn't to blame, must be=0A> the cable.=0A=
> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> The firewire connectors are pretty fragile,=
 and certainly=0A> the =0A> circuit board in Matthias' firewire guitar frie=
d do to a=0A> bad connection.=0A> I think it was the socket in that case, b=
ut the overall=0A> design isn't=0A> robust. ( certainly not good to use a g=
uitar lead )=0A> =0A> The cable carries power, and there isn't much separat=
ing=0A> the power connection=0A> to the signal connection.=A0 =0A> =0A> and=
y=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A      

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Well, I'm fond of the list that Mark's tool produces, and I'm planning
to put it to some use.

Matt

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Thanks Rainer, always a fount of info!

Heh, I'm pretty safe except for the power supply to my tape decks (will 
triple-check those connections now, though, thanks Cameron), but I do 
have a USB recording interface for dumping stuff to the computer and 
don't want to have to approach it with gloves and goggles in a safe room.

Daryl Shawn
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www.chinapaintingmusic.com


>> USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same risk applies?
>>     
>
> USB uses much lower voltage and power

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oh, that would be a fun mash-up

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Christophe <cburke55@comcast.net> wrote:

> She Has Funny Cars, on Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow album
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-- 
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oh, that would be a fun mash-up<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, M=
ar 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Christophe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
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somehow his voice reminds me of Don Henley,yes Goh is a great pop songwriter
Luis

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

> From: Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>
> Subject: Goh Nakamura, live in hotel room
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 7:07 AM
> Looper and Y2k participant Goh
> Nakamura just Twittered this video of him playing in a hotel
> room (with a cool fisheye lens that gives the feeling of
> looking through the peephole..). Very simple and
> straightforward use of looping and echo with a DL4, but it's
> a beautiful song that is served well by the tool.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg8-Gc8Ujqs
> 
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> 
> 


      

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 Hi I'm putting my last EDP for sale. it is the OBERHEIM (white version)
with loop III and no memory upgrades.I don't have the footswitch, It has
some scratches on the paint but otherwise it works OK.  I'm asking 350=80
(that's 350 EUROS) I'm located in Paris, France.

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Have any of you tried ustream live webcasting? - seems ideal for live  
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I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live
Looping Festival
and the opening of


Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travelling
expenses
and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted.

Only really, really excellent artists will be picked.

People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of a
love
of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply.
You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which will be
simulcast, by the way,  on all major network television for the duration.

Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute
full volume
soundchecks.

There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with
no Brown M&Ms
in the mixed candy dishes.

The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event
and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because,  as we all know,  
software
live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it?

Okee dokee,  see you on the strip.

Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o  Loopers Delight




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Ha hah!

You had me going Rick!  Cruel man. And I  was ready to apply, until I read 
the last part on laptops.   I need to play at another festival, but with the 
cost of flights, etc, the long trips aren't economical. Vegas would be a 
cool place for a festival!  Why doesn't someone do the real thing? I'll be 
there in an instant. Vegas is cheap right now.

Kris


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>I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live
> Looping Festival
> and the opening of
>
>
> Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travelling
> expenses
> and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted.
>
> Only really, really excellent artists will be picked.
>
> People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of a
> love
> of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply.
> You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which will 
> be
> simulcast, by the way,  on all major network television for the duration.
>
> Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute
> full volume
> soundchecks.
>
> There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with
> no Brown M&Ms
> in the mixed candy dishes.
>
> The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event
> and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because,  as we all know,
> software
> live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it?
>
> Okee dokee,  see you on the strip.
>
> Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o  Loopers Delight
>
>
>
>
> 

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You're a bad man, Mr. Walker ... *GRIN ...

(and I was all set to send an email ... Lost Wages isn't that far a drive
from up here on The High Plains.

Best to all on this Day of Fools

Dennis "Loopin' in Laramie ... YeeeeHaw!"

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live
> Looping Festival
> and the opening of
>
>
> Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travelling
> expenses
> and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted.
>
> Only really, really excellent artists will be picked.
>
> People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of a
> love
> of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply.
> You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which will
> be
> simulcast, by the way,  on all major network television for the duration.
>
> Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute
> full volume
> soundchecks.
>
> There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with
> no Brown M&Ms
> in the mixed candy dishes.
>
> The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event
> and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because,  as we all know,
> software
> live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it?
>
> Okee dokee,  see you on the strip.
>
> Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o  Loopers Delight
>
>
>
>
>


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<br>
<br>
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Heheheheheh . . .

Even if this hadn't been April 1st . . . and by some weird quirk of the 
cosmos this was actually real . . . I can hardly think of town I'd be 
less interested in going to . . . for any reason whatsoever (let alone 
a loop show) . . . than Las Vegas, Nevada.

Thank goodness Santa Cruz is the center of the West Coast looping 
universe . . . actually a cool place to visit.

Loop on!

Ted

n Apr 1, 2009, at 2:17 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote:

> I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live
> Looping Festival
> and the opening of
>
>
> Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all 
> travelling
> expenses
> and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted.
>
> Only really, really excellent artists will be picked.
>
> People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because 
> of a
> love
> of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to 
> apply.
> You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which 
> will be
> simulcast, by the way,  on all major network television for the 
> duration.
>
> Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute
> full volume
> soundchecks.
>
> There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio 
> with
> no Brown M&Ms
> in the mixed candy dishes.
>
> The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event
> and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because,  as we all 
> know,
> software
> live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it?
>
> Okee dokee,  see you on the strip.
>
> Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o  Loopers Delight
>
>
>
>

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f**kin' ... here fools day it's december 28th ... i kill you rick :-)

2009/4/2, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>:
>
> Heheheheheh . . .
>
> Even if this hadn't been April 1st . . . and by some weird quirk of the
> cosmos this was actually real . . . I can hardly think of town I'd be les=
s
> interested in going to . . . for any reason whatsoever (let alone a loop
> show) . . . than Las Vegas, Nevada.
>
> Thank goodness Santa Cruz is the center of the West Coast looping univers=
e
> . . . actually a cool place to visit.
>
> Loop on!
>
> Ted
>
> n Apr 1, 2009, at 2:17 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote:
>
>  I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live
>> Looping Festival
>> and the opening of
>>
>>
>> Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travellin=
g
>> expenses
>> and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted.
>>
>> Only really, really excellent artists will be picked.
>>
>> People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of =
a
>> love
>> of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply.
>> You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which wil=
l
>> be
>> simulcast, by the way,  on all major network television for the duration=
.
>>
>> Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute
>> full volume
>> soundchecks.
>>
>> There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with
>> no Brown M&Ms
>> in the mixed candy dishes.
>>
>> The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event
>> and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because,  as we all know,
>> software
>> live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it?
>>
>> Okee dokee,  see you on the strip.
>>
>> Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o  Loopers Delight
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


--=20
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f**kin&#39; ... here fools day it&#39;s december 28th ... i kill you rick :=
-)<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/4/2, tEd =AE KiLLiAn &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:tedkillian@charter.net">tedkillian@charter.net</a>&gt;:</sp=
an><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(20=
4, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Heheheheheh . . .<br>
<br>
Even if this hadn&#39;t been April 1st . . . and by some weird quirk of the=
 cosmos this was actually real . . . I can hardly think of town I&#39;d be =
less interested in going to . . . for any reason whatsoever (let alone a lo=
op show) . . . than Las Vegas, Nevada.<br>

<br>
Thank goodness Santa Cruz is the center of the West Coast looping universe =
. . . actually a cool place to visit.<br>
<br>
Loop on!<br><span class=3D"sg">
<br>
Ted</span><div><span class=3D"e" id=3D"q_12064555d3043856_2"><br>
<br>
n Apr 1, 2009, at 2:17 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com" target=3D=
"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">looppool@=
cruzio.com</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live<br>
Looping Festival<br>
and the opening of<br>
<br>
<br>
Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travelling<b=
r>
expenses<br>
and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted.<br>
<br>
Only really, really excellent artists will be picked.<br>
<br>
People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of a<b=
r>
love<br>
of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply.<br=
>
You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which will b=
e<br>
simulcast, by the way, =A0on all major network television for the duration.=
<br>
<br>
Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute<br>
full volume<br>
soundchecks.<br>
<br>
There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with<br=
>
no Brown M&amp;Ms<br>
in the mixed candy dishes.<br>
<br>
The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event<br>
and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because, =A0as we all know,<=
br>
software<br>
live looping isn&#39;t REALLY live looping now, is it?<br>
<br>
Okee dokee, =A0see you on the strip.<br>
<br>
Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o =A0Loopers Delight<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</span></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonel=
l at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.=
blogspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collect=
ive.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>


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i simply love you rainer! ... better than wikis...

2009/4/1, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>:
>
> Daryl asked:
> > USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same
> risk applies?
>
> USB uses much lower voltage and power - to be more precise:
>
> USB has 5V of power supply, with the signal lines being in the 0-1V
> range. However, pulling signal lines high is used to signal the
> transfer speed, so there is a good chance that shorting the 5V power
> line with one of the signal lines will not damage the interface
> circuit. Also typical semiconductor technology voltage ranges are well
> above that, but I don't know whether CMOS input stages are used.
>
> The case is different with Firewire; here, the power supply is
> specified at 25V (more specifically: 24 -1/+5V), however, a lot of
> laptops only supply their DC supply here. Still, that voltage is
> something that could damage your input circuit if a short between the
> power supply lines and the signal lines happened.
>
> Solution: use USB. Or use 4-pin Firewire connectors. Or don't use
> computers at all ;)
>
>
>               Rainer
>
>


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i simply love you rainer! ... better than wikis...<br><br><div><span class=
=3D"gmail_quote">2009/4/1, Rainer Straschill &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsoun=
d@googlemail.com">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;:</span><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Daryl asked:<br> &gt; USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose th=
at that the same risk applies?<br> <br> USB uses much lower voltage and pow=
er - to be more precise:<br> <br> USB has 5V of power supply, with the sign=
al lines being in the 0-1V<br>
 range. However, pulling signal lines high is used to signal the<br> transf=
er speed, so there is a good chance that shorting the 5V power<br> line wit=
h one of the signal lines will not damage the interface<br> circuit. Also t=
ypical semiconductor technology voltage ranges are well<br>
 above that, but I don&#39;t know whether CMOS input stages are used.<br> <=
br> The case is different with Firewire; here, the power supply is<br> spec=
ified at 25V (more specifically: 24 -1/+5V), however, a lot of<br> laptops =
only supply their DC supply here. Still, that voltage is<br>
 something that could damage your input circuit if a short between the<br> =
power supply lines and the signal lines happened.<br> <br> Solution: use US=
B. Or use 4-pin Firewire connectors. Or don&#39;t use<br> computers at all =
;)<br>
 <br><br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Rainer<br> <br> </blockq=
uote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at Blogger: <a href=
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Rainer,


Thanks for the feedback.
I took your advice and went through piece by piece.
The Edirol has some really small switches on the back to disable
monitoring,and I had flipped the wrong one. So I was still hearing both
signals.
Working great now.

Thanks again,

Andre

On Wed, April 1, 2009 12:51 pm, Rainer Straschill wrote:
> Andre,
>
> from your description it's hard to judge your problem properly, so I try:
>
> You have your signal source (whichever) connected to some input of
> your mixer. Some output of your mixer goes to your audio interface,
> and the interfaces goes back into your mixer. Then the mixer goes to
> some kind of PA/headphones/whatever.
>
> When you play your source signal into the mixer, you hear it through
> your PA and also some kind of slapback version of it (not phaser-kind,
> more like a slapback).
>
> It's most probable that your interface or your computer software sends
> your source signal back to the mixer. To try that, why don't you
> connect your source signal to your audio interface, the interface to
> the PA and see if you can hear the originall source signal. If that is
> the case, then the interface is the problem.
>
> Some more throughout description of your setup (what is patched into
> what, what software are you using etc.) could also help.
>
> Best,
>
>           Rainer
>
>


Andre Donawa
Barbados Guitar School
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Bay St.
St. Michael
Barbados
 11157
Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office)
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The Thunderbolt kicks serious butt if you want that Pagey tone.  Made  
by Valco - my most favored amp maker of all times.  They made the  
Magnatone (213) that I love so much.   If you're seriously interested  
in this amp, you should write Terry Dobbs - the reigning expert on  
these amps.  I think he might have a Silvertone version of the same  
amp for sale for much less.  And I guarantee it will sound at least as  
good as a Thunderbolt.  Here's his email address.  Check out his site www.valcoamp.com

terry@valcoamp.com

Great guy.  A master of amp restoration and... affordable! And he can  
authoritatively answer all questions Valco/Supro/Magnatone etc.

To all:
Sorry to have been out to lunch.  Producing second record for Hayley  
for Universal Music now.  Studio experiencing huge upheavals,  
upgrades, eyeballs blazing from too many manuals, hair gone curly from  
leaking molten grey matter.  Recorded bass and drums in Seattle at  
Jason from Deathcab for Cutie's studio.  Played their spooky upright  
piano.  Cool.

Loads of new fancy toys here.  The Leaning Tower of Visa is casting a  
long shadow these days!!!

Walking the highwire!  Having a blast.

Miss reading all the good stuff here.  Will check in occasionally.

your devotee

richard sales
www.glasswing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com


On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:23 PM, scott hansen wrote:

> just a followup-
> i was looking through my last vintage guitar magazine, and there was  
> an article on
> supro amps, supposedly the amp jimmy page used on 1st led zep album  
> was a
> model S6420 Thunderbolt bass amp-35 watts, 15" speaker, volume &  
> tone knob.
>
> i was of course looking on-line at other sources and there seems to  
> be a lot of debate
> on this, different supro amp possibly used, etc or some other  
> similar variation....
> so, i'm no expert on zep sound, but it sounds like an interesting  
> amp...
>
> for me a 10 watt amp w/ a 15" speaker sounds good and interesting  
> for my uses....
> oh well...
> s---
> ps-i'm not sure if the page supro counts as cheap, the listings say  
> it can range from 800-1300$ depending on things...
>









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amp maker of all times. &nbsp;They made the Magnatone (213) that I love =
so much. &nbsp; If you're seriously interested in this amp, you should =
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hi-

although this thing is pretty new, i'm wondering if anyone has used  
the looper inside the Digitech RP1000.

according to Digitech, it has a 20 second looper built in, with  
overdub etc etc.

i haven't been using my Repeater much lately, but i use my RP250  
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any thoughts?

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Hey, this sounds like my kind of looping festival, the kind that I can
demand a lengthy contract stipulation from.

Lets get started,

1.Guests, I'll have plenty, so instead of giving me a set number of comps,
just let everyone in free who tells the doorman that they are friends of
Chillyb.

2. Perks, I really want to see the Star Trek Experience, and Siegfried and
Roy, if they ever start up again, Cirque de Soliel , and the Liberace
museum, Oh I almost forgot, is "Wicked" still playing? 

    I think you could arrange to make that happen.

3. Whores, sorry If I offend you, the few women who populate this list,  but
Vegas has 'em, and I want 'em, Please don't forward this e-mail to my wife,
she wouldn't understand.

4. Hey I like to gamble as much as the next guy, how about setting me up at
a roulette table in the Picasso room at the Bellagio

5. Catering, a dressing room full of ordinary cold cuts will be trashed, so
be warned. Wow me.

6. Payment in full in advance.

7. Penthouse suite, I want a view, end of story

8. A body guard, masseuse (see #3),  and personal "pharmaceutical" valet

9. A Hummer with quad sound system to cruise the strip in.

Well I guess that just about does it, my lawyer will be drafting a contract
in the morning.

 Thanks

Bill


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the kind
that I can demand a lengthy contract stipulation =
from.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Lets get started,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>1.Guests, I&#8217;ll have plenty, so instead of =
giving me a
set number of comps, just let everyone in free who tells the doorman =
that they
are friends of Chillyb.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><font =
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face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2. =
Perks, I really
want to see the Star Trek Experience, and Siegfried and Roy, if they =
ever start
up again, Cirque de Soliel , and the Liberace museum, Oh I almost =
forgot, is &#8220;Wicked&#8221;
still playing? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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populate
this list, &nbsp;but Vegas has &#8216;em, and I want &#8216;em, Please =
don&#8217;t
forward this e-mail to my wife, she wouldn&#8217;t =
understand.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>4. Hey I like to gamble as much as the next guy, how =
about
setting me up at a roulette table in the Picasso room at the =
Bellagio<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>5. Catering, a dressing room full of ordinary cold =
cuts will
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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valet<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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strip in.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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please forgive bill....
he clearly forgot items 10 through 13.... it must be the meds
11. no blue M&M's.....
12. an 18" version of stonehendge...
13. a life size ice sculpture made in his image.... that urinates whiskey..=
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fro

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Hey=2C this sounds like my kind of looping festival=2C the kind
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    I
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this list=2C  but Vegas has =91em=2C and I want =91em=2C Please don=92t
forward this e-mail to my wife=2C she wouldn=92t understand.

4. Hey I like to gamble as much as the next guy=2C how about
setting me up at a roulette table in the Picasso room at the Bellagio

5. Catering=2C a dressing room full of ordinary cold cuts will
be trashed=2C so be warned. Wow me.

6. Payment in full in advance.

7. Penthouse suite=2C I want a view=2C end of story

8. A body guard=2C masseuse (see #3)=2C  and personal =93pharmaceutical=94
valet

9. A Hummer with quad sound system to cruise the strip in.

Well I guess that just about does it=2C my lawyer will be
drafting a contract in the morning.

 Thanks

Bill


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set number of comps=2C just let everyone in free who tells the doorman that=
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got=2C is =93Wicked=94
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hey fellows,=0AWhat kind of synths did Gary Numan used in the 80=B4s?from a=
ll the bands back then they always stood up,they sounded different from oth=
er synth bands they to me they sounded like the les paul of synths very fat=
!=0Ahere is one of my favorites:=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIa=
FXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated=0A=0AI always loved the fact that he had guitar o=
riented riffs on synths,i remember the first time i heard his voice i thoug=
ht it was the new Syd Barret!=0A=0ALuis=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=
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Dam, I always loved that song. Thanx, I never even knew there was a video
for it.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> hey fellows,
> What kind of synths did Gary Numan used in the 80=B4s?from all the bands =
back
> then they always stood up,they sounded different from other synth bands t=
hey
> to me they sounded like the les paul of synths very fat!
> here is one of my favorites:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated
>
> I always loved the fact that he had guitar oriented riffs on synths,i
> remember the first time i heard his voice i thought it was the new Syd
> Barret!
>
> Luis
>
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
>
>
>

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Dam, I always loved that song. Thanx, I never even knew there was a video f=
or it.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM, L=
.Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com">labalo=
ops@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
hey fellows,<br>
What kind of synths did Gary Numan used in the 80=B4s?from all the bands ba=
ck then they always stood up,they sounded different from other synth bands =
they to me they sounded like the les paul of synths very fat!<br>
here is one of my favorites:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&amp;feature=3Drelat=
ed" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&amp;feat=
ure=3Drelated</a><br>
<br>
I always loved the fact that he had guitar oriented riffs on synths,i remem=
ber the first time i heard his voice i thought it was the new Syd Barret!<b=
r>
<br>
Luis<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" target=3D"_blank">www.mysp=
ace.com/luisangulocom</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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Hey Rainer,=0ABut what about a bus powered FW soundcard like the RME FW400 =
or other?=0A=0A=0A>  =0A>  Solution: use USB. Or use 4-pin Firewire connect=
ors. Or=0A> don't use=0A>  computers at all ;)=0A> =0A>  =0A> =0A> =A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Rainer=0A>  =0A>  =0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A=
> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com=0A> Chain Tape Col=
lective: http://www.ct-collective.com=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A      

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Porque Andy?=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Wed, 4/1/09,=
 andy soto <musicalmexicana@gmail.com> wrote:=0A=0A> From: andy soto <music=
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thanks for reminding why I hated the 80's musik

ark!

Claude

L.Angulo a =E9crit :
> hey fellows,
> What kind of synths did Gary Numan used in the 80=B4s?from all the band=
s back then they always stood up,they sounded different from other synth =
bands they to me they sounded like the les paul of synths very fat!
> here is one of my favorites:
>=20
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated
>=20
> I always loved the fact that he had guitar oriented riffs on synths,i r=
emember the first time i heard his voice i thought it was the new Syd Bar=
ret!
>=20
> Luis
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At 12:02 AM -0700 4/2/09, L.Angulo wrote:
>hey fellows, What kind of synths did Gary Numan=20
>used in the 80=B4s?from all the bands back then=20
>they always stood up,they sounded different from=20
>other synth bands they to me they sounded like=20
>the les paul of synths very fat! here is one of=20
>my favorites:=20
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated

This era Numan was filled with classic analog.=20
In this video, the main synth shown is a good ol'=20
MiniMoog.  Also, there's an Arp ProDGX (successor=20
to the Pro Soloist that you hear in a lot of prog=20
rock a few years before), which is sitting on, I=20
think, a PolyMoog.  Numan's one of the only=20
artists I can think of who went in big for the=20
PolyMoog, and you can hear it in most of the main=20
synth lines from his hit "Cars".

Otherwise, lots of Moogs and Arps, with a little=20
bit of Jupiter-era Roland thrown in.  IIRC, the=20
liner notes for Telekon give a detailed kit list=20
for the synths used on each song.  That would be=20
a good starting place for figuring out which=20
synths were kept in his arsenal around that time.

>I always loved the fact that he had guitar oriented riffs on synths

Ditto here.  I first saw him on Saturday Night=20
Live performing "Cars" and was immediately=20
hooked.  A few weeks later, I caught some concert=20
footage of "Down in the Park" on Don Kirschner's=20
Rock Concert, and I've been a pretty steadfast=20
Numan fan ever since.

Thanks for the video pointer.  That one's a keeper.  :)

	--m.
-- 
_____
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At 6:03 PM +0900 4/2/09, Mech wrote:
>Also, there's an Arp ProDGX (successor to the Pro Soloist that you 
>hear in a lot of prog rock a few years before)

Big oops!!!  That's not a ProDGX, but an Arp Omni produced around the 
same era.  The button type fooled me, but when I could finally 
still-frame a shot with decent lighting, I got a good look at the 
actual button configuration.

Nice little string machine, the Omni was.  The keyboard player for my 
band back at university started out with one, before he traded it for 
one of the first Ensoniq Mirages.

Sorry for the confusion.  Carry on.

	--m.
-- 
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Gary Numan used a "Micro Korg"  quite a bit on=20
the first few records, later he used the=20
"Polymoog Keyboard"  a lower end version of the=20
standard Polymoog, but it featured the "Vox=20
Humana" preset which became his trademark soaring=20
melody sound (the initial highnotes on "Cars" is=20
the "Vox Humana" preset).

As for "Are Friends Electric" , that's the Mini=20
Korg.  The video shows someone playing a minimoog=20
(using two hands on the keyboard ..ha!), but=20
that's not what you are hearing, ditto  for the=20
Arp Omni shown later in the video.
The reason that the Mini Korg sounded so peculiar=20
is that it has a resonant HP filter which is=20
independently tunable from the resonant LP=20
filter. you can get some pretty unique timbres=20
form the Mini Korg.  That filter, BTW, was called=20
the "Traveller" on the synth and was available on=20
the 911 guitar synth and the 'traveller'=20
footpedal filter stompbox.


I hope this clarifies things a bit...

CZ

>hey fellows, What kind of synths did Gary Numan=20
>used in the 80=B4s?from all the bands back then=20
>they always stood up,they sounded different from=20
>other synth bands they to me they sounded like=20
>the les paul of synths very fat! here is one of=20
>my favorites:=20
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated=20
>I always loved the fact that he had guitar=20
>oriented riffs on synths,i remember the first=20
>time i heard his voice i thought it was the new=20
>Syd Barret! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


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Just noticed this over at the SoS forums:
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_uc.php

Seems like good news for Mac laptoppers who buggle with absent firewire 
interface on the non-Pro models.

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ok Claude maybe you like this one better?=0Athe guys have sideburns as well=
=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DU3_qCDr20U0&feature=3Drelated=0A=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Thu, 4/2/09, Claud=
e Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:=0A=0A> From: Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch>=0A> =
Subject: Re: Gary Numan Synths=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
=0A> Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 1:45 AM=0A> thanks for reminding why I =
hated the=0A> 80's musik=0A> =0A> ark!=0A> =0A> Claude=0A> =0A> L.Angulo a =
=E9crit :=0A> > hey fellows,=0A> > What kind of synths did Gary Numan used =
in the=0A> 80=B4s?from all the bands back then they always stood up,they=0A=
> sounded different from other synth bands they to me they=0A> sounded like=
 the les paul of synths very fat!=0A> > here is one of my favorites:=0A> > =
=0A> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated=0A> >=
 =0A> > I always loved the fact that he had guitar oriented=0A> riffs on sy=
nths,i remember the first time i heard his voice=0A> i thought it was the n=
ew Syd Barret!=0A> > =0A> > Luis=0A> > =0A> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=
=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0=0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A     =
 

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Nice! just in time while wires are on fire!

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Thu, 4/2/09, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:

> From: van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
> Subject: RME Fireface UC
> To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 6:08 AM
> Just noticed this over at the SoS
> forums:
> http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_uc.php
> 
> Seems like good news for Mac laptoppers who buggle with
> absent firewire interface on the non-Pro models.
> 
> -- rgds,
> van Sinn
> 
> 


      

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Would you be my agent????? Thanks for having my back but I think I'm going
to demand "only" brown M&M's, I like the ice sculpture and Stonehenge ideas
though.

bill

 

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From: J Johans [mailto:parispro00@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:35 PM
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please forgive bill....
he clearly forgot items 10 through 13.... it must be the meds
11. no blue M&M's.....
12. an 18" version of stonehendge...
13. a life size ice sculpture made in his image.... that urinates whiskey...

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I searched Ableton Live and Behringer FCB1010 set up issues and got this site
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Eric



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I searched Ableton Live and Behringer FCB1010 set up issues and got this site
I just got my pedal yesterday and i was wondering how to set it up
Ive been trying for a couple hours with no success
Thanks
Eric



http://www.mandalaworldmusic.com



Contact me on Skype my user name is ericmandala



http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic



Now you can buy our Cds & download our music track by track here online

http://cdbaby.com/cd/ericmandala



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Eric



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http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic



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<br>
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if you join the FCB1010 group in groups.yahoo.com there are a few
manuals in the files section that explain how to set that up.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Eric Mandala <mandalastudio@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I searched Ableton Live and Behringer FCB1010 set up issues and got this
> site
> I just got my pedal yesterday and i was wondering how to set it up
> Ive been trying for a couple hours with no success
> Thanks
> Eric
>
> http://www.mandalaworldmusic.com
>
> Contact me on Skype my user name is ericmandala
>
> http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic
>
> Now you can buy our Cds & download our music track by track here online
> http://cdbaby.com/cd/ericmandala
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I haven't checked the Ableton website, but KVR Audio says it's out.

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/11306.html

Cheers!

Mike Crain
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Yes he is,i became really good friends with him when i was in California he also put a sustainer bypass switch on my fernandes guitar.In fact i sent a message to this list as soon as i found out.
He was supposed to put an RMC system on my guitar as well,then i found out through his wife that he had passed away.
He is responsible for Adrian Belews signature model the guy was a master craftsman and a real fine person.He had mentioned to me that he was having health problems but didnt tell me what, but i dont know if the car crash had something to do with it.It really hit me hard when i found out what had happened.
I read somewhere that they finally found a replacemnt to do the Adrian models since hardly anybody could do such a meticulous and perfect job.
He will be missed.
Luis

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Thu, 4/2/09, Fernando Jobke <clark_nova_@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Fernando Jobke <clark_nova_@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Axel Rudich
> To: labaloops@yahoo.com
> Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:45 AM
> Hi
> 
> I'm Fernando Jobke
> used to be a student of Axel in Buenos Aires, I'm kind
> of shocked, now that I read that he passed away, in a car
> accident.
> Was just googling his name, and bumped into this news, 
> could you plesae tell me if it's the Argentinian Axel
> Rudich you where talking about?
> If yes, it's a big loss for musicians and people in
> general, he was a great great person and a remarkable
> luthier and guitar player.
> 
> hug
> f
> 
> 
> 
>       


      

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Hi Gang,

Anyone started out yet to loop in Live 8 with the new Looper plug-in?
Wondering what set-ups people have come up with. How many Looper
instances, signal addressing of choice and strategies for external
MIDI control.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Curious to know myself -
You could download Beta versions from their forum at last check.

rick

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  Hi Gang,

  Anyone started out yet to loop in Live 8 with the new Looper plug-in?
  Wondering what set-ups people have come up with. How many Looper
  instances, signal addressing of choice and strategies for external
  MIDI control.

  Greetings from Sweden

  Per Boysen
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On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:39 PM, rick miller <bs@tanawana.com> wrote:
> Curious to know myself -
> You could download Beta versions=A0from their forum at last check.
>
> rick

Yup, the Beta is the one I've been on for weeks now. But I was never
able to direct enough time into looping with it. And also, the release
version is known to be a bit more CPU friendly than the beta version,
due to the beta reporting code now been stripped off.

It would be nice to see posts from folks that is looping with the new
Looper plug-in! :-)  Tips and thoughts and such...

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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He's having an opening in San Francisco this Monday at CounterPulse...I pla=
n to show up. If any other loopers want to meet up and have=A0a drink or so=
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Kris wrote:
"You had me going Rick!  Cruel man. And I  was ready to apply, until I
read the last part on laptops."

What?    and you bought the first part about all travel expenses and a
$2,000 performance fee for 50 live looping artists.

LOL,  the fact that it was April Fool's Day might have also tipped you,
but I'm sorry if I actually had you going for a minute.

I was just taking a playful poke at the fact that it is difficult to put
these things on and that everyone doing it does it for love and not money.

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you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that.=20

=20

Kris


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> Date: Thu=2C 2 Apr 2009 14:09:03 -0700

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> Kris wrote:
> "You had me going Rick! Cruel man. And I was ready to apply=2C until I
> read the last part on laptops."
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> What? and you bought the first part about all travel expenses and a
> $2=2C000 performance fee for 50 live looping artists.
>=20
> LOL=2C the fact that it was April Fool's Day might have also tipped you=
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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll
begin the  month-long Special Focus on the Ricochet Gathering.  The
Featured CD at Midnight will be "Okefenokee 2002" by the Ricochet
Gathering on the Ricochet Dream label.  For details, see the Special
Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#apr

You'll also hear from Syndromeda and the new album Ideation, a project
from two alumni of the Ricochet Gathering.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet.

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I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the upgrade price
it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it previously listed for
live 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular version let me
know what the upgrade price is for them?

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mike Crain <mike@mikecrain.com> wrote:

> I haven't checked the Ableton website, but KVR Audio says it's out.
> http://www.kvraudio.com/news/11306.html
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike Crain
> Percussionist/Composer
> Sacramento, CA 95818
> mike@mikecrain.com
> http://www.mikecrain.com
> http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom**
> *
> *
> *"Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be revealed*
> *in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences created by
> the*
> *partials will represent an appreciable contribution."  *
> *
>                          - Edgard Varese*
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I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the upgrade price=
 it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it previously listed for l=
ive 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular version let me=
 know what the upgrade price is for them?<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mike Crain =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mike@mikecrain.com">mike@mikecrain.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bor=
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left: 1ex;">
<div style=3D"">I haven&#39;t checked the Ableton website, but KVR Audio sa=
ys it&#39;s out.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.kvraudio.com/news=
/11306.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.kvraudio.com/news/11306.html</a><=
/div>
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I paid the $189 for the edu upgrade, and honestly it seems fair to me.
I've been using the Live 8 beta, and I like the looper. I can't wait
for Max for Live!

As an aside though, I've got to say how impressed I am with the recent
upgrades to Stylus RMX, and at no cost! That really is a fantastic
piece of kit.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the upgrade pri=
ce
> it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it previously listed for
> live 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular version let=
 me
> know what the upgrade price is for them?
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mike Crain <mike@mikecrain.com> wrote:
>>
>> I haven't checked the Ableton website, but KVR Audio says it's out.
>> http://www.kvraudio.com/news/11306.html
>> Cheers!
>> Mike Crain
>> Percussionist/Composer
>> Sacramento, CA 95818
>> mike@mikecrain.com
>> http://www.mikecrain.com
>> http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom
>> "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be revealed
>> in all their splendor,=A0but the use of certain interferences created by=
 the
>> partials=A0will represent an=A0appreciable contribution."
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-=A0Edgard Varese
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>



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myspace [dot] com/artsimon

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Kris wrote:
"A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy 
patrons of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :)  Believe me, if I 
were indepedentally wealthy, I would not hestitate a minute to do 
something like this at least once a year.  I'd be flying you all in 
first class and putting you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that."


Geez,  Kris,  you practically do this already with all your heroic 
attempts to get granting and funding for your beautiful
festival of Experimental and Improvisation Music in Boise, 
annually......................I think of you as one of the selfless 
heroes in this
kind of music.......................you and the Matt Davignons and 
others who have worked so hard to present new music and live looping
music.

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You are too kind, Rick. I just with I could do more. It is frustrating.   I 
really want to make a difference and generate more appreciation for the 
avant-garde and experimental music arts, and give artists more gratification 
and credit, but at times I feel as if I were Sisyphus pushing his rock up 
the hill constantly.  The demand for this type of art is miniscule, and 
promoting it is like planning a goat rodeo.  :)  But in the end, I am very 
grateful to be able to get such fine musicians here in Boise, Idaho.

Kris

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> Kris wrote:
> "A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy patrons 
> of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :)  Believe me, if I were 
> indepedentally wealthy, I would not hestitate a minute to do something 
> like this at least once a year.  I'd be flying you all in first class and 
> putting you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that."
>
>
> Geez,  Kris,  you practically do this already with all your heroic 
> attempts to get granting and funding for your beautiful
> festival of Experimental and Improvisation Music in Boise, 
> annually......................I think of you as one of the selfless heroes 
> in this
> kind of music.......................you and the Matt Davignons and others 
> who have worked so hard to present new music and live looping
> music.
>
> 

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I've been messing around with live 8 today, and overall I'm pretty
happy with the updates. I have yet to try out the looper, but right
now im trying all the new warping engine features to see how it will
work in a live dj situation.

So far, I've actually been having a hard time getting the same audio
quality as I get in live 7 with warped tracks. A few vocal heavy
tracks made the vocals sound absolutely awful with the default
settings. I tried them in live 7 and they sounded way better. Has
anyone else had this experience?

Additionally, what do people think of the new way of using warp
markers? Do you think Live's transient analysis and warping based on
that is significantly better than the use of warp markers?

I'm particularly interested in hearing everyone's opinion on the last
questions, as warping is a very important feature for me. I'll be
trying out the looper later and reading everyone's impressions of that
in another thread.

Thanks,
Nick

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Mr Walker and Mr Walker you both were really rich here.  It was neat as I
thought no one would do an April Fools on the list so it was nice to see it
happen.  Happy April... J

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Kris wrote:
> "A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy patrons
> of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :)  Believe me, if I were
> indepedentally wealthy, I would not hestitate a minute to do something like
> this at least once a year.  I'd be flying you all in first class and putting
> you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that."
>
>
> Geez,  Kris,  you practically do this already with all your heroic attempts
> to get granting and funding for your beautiful
> festival of Experimental and Improvisation Music in Boise,
> annually......................I think of you as one of the selfless heroes
> in this
> kind of music.......................you and the Matt Davignons and others
> who have worked so hard to present new music and live looping
> music.
>
>


-- 
music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Mr Walker and Mr Walker you both were really rich here. =A0It was neat as I=
 thought no one would do an April Fools on the list so it was nice to see i=
t happen. =A0Happy April... J<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr=
 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l=
ooppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Kris wrote:<br>
&quot;A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy pat=
rons of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :) =A0Believe me, if I were=
 indepedentally wealthy, I would not hestitate a minute to do something lik=
e this at least once a year. =A0I&#39;d be flying you all in first class an=
d putting you up in 5 star hotels. I&#39;ve love to do that.&quot;<br>

<br>
<br>
Geez, =A0Kris, =A0you practically do this already with all your heroic atte=
mpts to get granting and funding for your beautiful<br>
festival of Experimental and Improvisation Music in Boise, annually........=
..............I think of you as one of the selfless heroes in this<br>
kind of music.......................you and the Matt Davignons and others w=
ho have worked so hard to present new music and live looping<br>
music.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>music links...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br><a=
 href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/china=
paintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelect=
ro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/j=
imgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networkin=
g...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>

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On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Nick wrote:

> I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the  
> upgrade price it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it  
> previously listed for live 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone  
> with the regular version let me know what the upgrade price is for  
> them?

I'll be upgrading from Live 5, and the edu price is exactly the same  
as the regular price. And, yes, it's also a lot more expensive than  
last time I upgraded.

Jeff

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thanks guys. now the hard part - deciding whether to upgrade.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Nick wrote:
>
>> I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the upgrade
>> price it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it previously listed
>> for live 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular version
>> let me know what the upgrade price is for them?
>
> I'll be upgrading from Live 5, and the edu price is exactly the same as the
> regular price. And, yes, it's also a lot more expensive than last time I
> upgraded.
>
> Jeff
>
>

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Sorry, i feel foolish. the audio quality issues were due to transient
mode being awful for full songs and live 7 only sounded better due to
the 16th transient assumption working out well in most electronica
tracks. complex pro sounds a bit better than live 7's complex in my
tests, which is great.

still wondering what people think about the new warping though.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been messing around with live 8 today, and overall I'm pretty
> happy with the updates. I have yet to try out the looper, but right
> now im trying all the new warping engine features to see how it will
> work in a live dj situation.
>
> So far, I've actually been having a hard time getting the same audio
> quality as I get in live 7 with warped tracks. A few vocal heavy
> tracks made the vocals sound absolutely awful with the default
> settings. I tried them in live 7 and they sounded way better. Has
> anyone else had this experience?
>
> Additionally, what do people think of the new way of using warp
> markers? Do you think Live's transient analysis and warping based on
> that is significantly better than the use of warp markers?
>
> I'm particularly interested in hearing everyone's opinion on the last
> questions, as warping is a very important feature for me. I'll be
> trying out the looper later and reading everyone's impressions of that
> in another thread.
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
>

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On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:40 PM, Nick wrote:

> thanks guys. now the hard part - deciding whether to upgrade.

I'm going to do it, but I'll be going from 5 to 8, so I'm probably way  
overdue. If you get it, let us know how it is?

Good luck!

Jeff

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Here's a new looping tune I wrote in the context of of asking myself, "what 
does innovation sound like?" Not in what's innovative but how does 
innovation sound? (Like asking "what color is innovation?")

http://thecavewall.posterous.com/what-innovation-sounds-like-to-me

The song is also embedded in a post on innovation/creative problem solving 
and synesthesia where the context makes more sense:

http://zenstorming.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/what-does-innovation-sound-like-to-you/

Enjoy!

~Peace~

plish

www.michaelplishka.com
www.zenstorming.com

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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
> still wondering what people think about the new warping though.

I think it's useful that the transit recognition is so fast and
accurate now. At a Live workshop last week we could use the 8 beta and
were just throwing loads of songs, clips ans sample snippets at Live
and they all hooked up well in some sort of rhythmic relation.

As for the resulting fidelity you will have to decide in each
situation if it's usable within your context. Personally I use Logic
for producing recorded music but I like Live as a real-time
mess-around-live-mixer-router-playground for live playing with
looping. Version 8 will even more define Live as that typical tool
with the Max4Live and tempo directing Looper plug-in.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Excuse my ignorance but how is it with odd time signatures??

Can it change time signature mid song???

Matt Stevens
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On 3 Apr 2009, at 03:37, Art Simon wrote:

> I paid the $189 for the edu upgrade, and honestly it seems fair to me.
> I've been using the Live 8 beta, and I like the looper. I can't wait
> for Max for Live!
>
> As an aside though, I've got to say how impressed I am with the recent
> upgrades to Stylus RMX, and at no cost! That really is a fantastic
> piece of kit.
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the  
>> upgrade price
>> it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it previously  
>> listed for
>> live 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular  
>> version let me
>> know what the upgrade price is for them?
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mike Crain <mike@mikecrain.com>  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't checked the Ableton website, but KVR Audio says it's out.
>>> http://www.kvraudio.com/news/11306.html
>>> Cheers!
>>> Mike Crain
>>> Percussionist/Composer
>>> Sacramento, CA 95818
>>> mike@mikecrain.com
>>> http://www.mikecrain.com
>>> http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom
>>> "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be  
>>> revealed
>>> in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences  
>>> created by the
>>> partials will represent an appreciable contribution."
>>>
>>>                        - Edgard Varese
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>


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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Matt Stevens
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> Can it change time signature mid song???

Good question! I did not know so I checked the Live 8 manual and it says:

"Live's time signature can be changed at any point in the Arrangement
by using time signature
markers."

"In many ways, time signature markers look and function like locators;
they can be moved with
the mouse or with your computer keyboard's arrow keys, and their value
can be changed
using the Edit menu's Edit Value command (or with the Ctrl R (PC) / R (Mac)
shortcut). They can be also be deleted using the or Delete key, or via delete
commands in the Edit and Create menus. "

However, it seems all this applies to the arrange view and I guess
most loopists prefer running Live by the mixer view. But as long as
you are only looping - i.e. not using any full bar length audio or
midi clips in Live - you can always change to any time signature by
adjusting your looper's resolution on-the-fly. I use Mobius and it
draws on the EDP context with "8ths Per Cycle". So If loop want to
start looping in 5/4 I siimply set that value to 10 (as an eight note
resolution for quantized loop manipulation). When I play in 7/8 I use
to set it to 14 etc etc. They I always have a quick-button for
swapping Mobius resolution to a way shorter value for more granular
resolution (like 64 for 4/4, 56 for 7/8 etc etc)

--> Bottom line:
If you stick with Live's Looper plug-in you may change to any odd time
signature by adjusting the quantize value (either globally or in
Looper). Your favorite quantize values can be mapped to a MIDI button
hand pad on the side. If you want "real canned drum beats" to go with
your looping you can use Stylus RMX 1.7 and assign the same MIDI
button hand pad to the relating time signatures (as we know, version
1.7 can instantly re-mould any loop into a specified time signature -
odd, odder or not at all odd)

Per

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Thanks man

Thats the answer i needed to sell my EDP - EBAY here i come - any  
offers?

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com




On 3 Apr 2009, at 08:53, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Matt Stevens
> <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Can it change time signature mid song???
>
> Good question! I did not know so I checked the Live 8 manual and it  
> says:
>
> "Live's time signature can be changed at any point in the Arrangement
> by using time signature
> markers."
>
> "In many ways, time signature markers look and function like locators;
> they can be moved with
> the mouse or with your computer keyboard's arrow keys, and their value
> can be changed
> using the Edit menu's Edit Value command (or with the Ctrl R (PC) /  
> R (Mac)
> shortcut). They can be also be deleted using the or Delete key, or  
> via delete
> commands in the Edit and Create menus. "
>
> However, it seems all this applies to the arrange view and I guess
> most loopists prefer running Live by the mixer view. But as long as
> you are only looping - i.e. not using any full bar length audio or
> midi clips in Live - you can always change to any time signature by
> adjusting your looper's resolution on-the-fly. I use Mobius and it
> draws on the EDP context with "8ths Per Cycle". So If loop want to
> start looping in 5/4 I siimply set that value to 10 (as an eight note
> resolution for quantized loop manipulation). When I play in 7/8 I use
> to set it to 14 etc etc. They I always have a quick-button for
> swapping Mobius resolution to a way shorter value for more granular
> resolution (like 64 for 4/4, 56 for 7/8 etc etc)
>
> --> Bottom line:
> If you stick with Live's Looper plug-in you may change to any odd time
> signature by adjusting the quantize value (either globally or in
> Looper). Your favorite quantize values can be mapped to a MIDI button
> hand pad on the side. If you want "real canned drum beats" to go with
> your looping you can use Stylus RMX 1.7 and assign the same MIDI
> button hand pad to the relating time signatures (as we know, version
> 1.7 can instantly re-mould any loop into a specified time signature -
> odd, odder or not at all odd)
>
> Per
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0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the =
mouse or with your computer keyboard's arrow keys, and their =
value</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">can be changed</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">using the Edit menu's Edit Value command (or with =
the Ctrl R (PC) / R (Mac)</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">shortcut). =
They can be also be deleted using the or Delete key, or via =
delete</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">commands in the Edit and Create =
menus. "</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">However, it seems all this applies to the arrange =
view and I guess</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">most loopists prefer running =
Live by the mixer view. But as long as</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">you are =
only looping - i.e. not using any full bar length audio or</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">midi clips in Live - you can always change to any =
time signature by</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">adjusting your looper's =
resolution on-the-fly. I use Mobius and it</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">draws on =
the EDP context with "8ths Per Cycle". So If loop want to</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">start looping in 5/4 I siimply set that value to 10 =
(as an eight note</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">resolution for quantized loop =
manipulation). When I play in 7/8 I use</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to set =
it to 14 etc etc. They I always have a quick-button for</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">swapping Mobius resolution to a way shorter value =
for more granular</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">resolution (like 64 for 4/4, 56 =
for 7/8 etc etc)</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">--> Bottom line:</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If you stick =
with Live's Looper plug-in you may change to any odd time</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">signature by adjusting the quantize value (either =
globally or in</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Looper). Your favorite quantize =
values can be mapped to a MIDI button</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">hand pad =
on the side. If you want "real canned drum beats" to go with</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">your looping you can use Stylus RMX 1.7 and assign =
the same MIDI</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">button hand pad to the relating =
time signatures (as we know, version</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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instantly re-mould any loop into a specified time signature -</div><div =
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">Per</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> =
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This is a bit of an odd question - throw most rock and roll cd's into
the player and you'll find at least 2 songs that begin with just
drumming. Your examples strike me as the sort will people will
recognize the source within a few notes - is this intentional?

Anyway, yeah, listen to a few rock records, and you're sure to find
lots. Or just do a google search for "drum loops" and you'll find many
free downloads of 'em. (Don't ask me why loops of drum machine are
more common than loops of real drums though.) In Hip-hop, finding good
drum loops from records is considered an art form - "crate digging".
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Study/9077/cratedigging.html

Meanwhile, here's a video that's sort of on your subject,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac

It's the story of the Amen Break - something you've certainly heard
used in dozens of different songs (maybe even hundreds) without
realizing it was the same sample. I found this mind blowingly
educational about the state of electronic music - the huge amount of
music that's based around one drum loop. On one hand, it gets my heart
all big about the art of sampling. On the other, I'm dumbfounded by
what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out?
How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as
the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years?

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Cameron McCormack
<cameron.mccormack@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> This has to have been a topic before now but didn't have any joy in the
> archive.
>
> I've started to try and put a few songs together looping bass, rhythm and
> lead parts together on my Digitech JamMan. It's all good fun, but it sounds
> sort of empty without any drums. The JamMan has a few simple click tracks,
> but they're only any good for keeping time, and they don't become a part of
> the saved loop.
>
> I'm lacking a drum machine and have no intention of buying one at his stage,
> so what i've done is taken songs that start with just a few bars of drums on
> their own, cut that out in a WAV editor, made a little drum loop and ported
> that to the JamMan to play over that. It works pretty well for my ears.
>
> So, my question is - does anybody have suggestions of songs that would be
> good for carry out this process on? Drums on their own, no other
> instruments.
>
> All I've found after a brief look at my own music is Iggy Pop - Lust for
> Life and Led Zep - Bonzo's Montreux.
>
>
>

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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's the story of the Amen Break ///////
> what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out?
> How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as
> the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years?

I think it is because (1) that is a very good drum break and that (2)
someone just started using it! As we sometimes forget on this list,
many music creators like to copy a vibe from someone else and for a
dj-rooted laptop-ist drum breaks are essential in that regard. Sort of
(3) "tagging" the music as part of a certain genre ("scene").

Personally I avoid using drums for the same - but reversed - reason
(ambition: staying out of any genre as much as possible. Of course an
impossible mission, but fun anyway). And also for being better
prepared to loop together with percussionists on-the-fly.

Per

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Art Simon schrieb:
> I'm curious, is the "sizzle" introduced by mp3 encoding similar to the
> "bitcrushing" the bitrman effect uses?

This reminds me on the anecdote where the king asks his "scientists" why 
  does throwing a dead fish into a full glass makes it overflow, but if 
you throw a living fish into it it doesn't?
They came up with 20 different theories explaining it, and not a single 
one did the test...

I never ever heard a sizzle in mp3's, and I know nobody who does. 
(assuming we are not talking about 64mbit/sec mp3s...)

What is he talking about? I tried to find original works of Mr. Berger 
about his research, and couldn't find anything but these claims in 
different "news" sites. (Never trust statistics you didn't fake yourself).

My own tests revealed, I don't hear a difference on good headphones 
between original and a 192kb mp3 for "normal music". As far as I know 
the usual double blind tests reveal the same even for expert listeners, 
they might need maybe 256 kB. I bet my ears are bad, but I don't care...;-)
Hearing a sizzle should be prominent I guess.
Of course if you subtract the compressed sound from the original, you 
might hear a sizzle, but that's exactly that part of the sound which 
gets masked, and which is actually missing in the compressed sound...

Stefan

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2009/4/3 Stefan Tiedje <stefantiedje@googlemail.com>

> Art Simon schrieb:
>
>> I'm curious, is the "sizzle" introduced by mp3 encoding similar to the
>> "bitcrushing" the bitrman effect uses?
>>
>
> This reminds me on the anecdote where the king asks his "scientists" why
>  does throwing a dead fish into a full glass makes it overflow, but if yo=
u
> throw a living fish into it it doesn't?
> They came up with 20 different theories explaining it, and not a single o=
ne
> did the test...
>


may you elaborate more on this, stefan? ... yes, the fishes and the glass,
not te mp3.


>
> Stefan
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>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stefantiedje@googlemail.com">stefantiedje@googlemail=
.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-le=
ft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;">
Art Simon schrieb:<div class=3D"im"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I&#39;m curious, is the &quot;sizzle&quot; introduced by mp3 encoding simil=
ar to the<br>
&quot;bitcrushing&quot; the bitrman effect uses?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
This reminds me on the anecdote where the king asks his &quot;scientists&qu=
ot; why =A0does throwing a dead fish into a full glass makes it overflow, b=
ut if you throw a living fish into it it doesn&#39;t?<br>
They came up with 20 different theories explaining it, and not a single one=
 did the test...<br>
</blockquote><div><br><br>may you elaborate more on this, stefan? ... yes, =
the fishes and the glass, not te mp3.<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0p=
t 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Stefan<br><font color=3D"#888888">
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Stefan Tiedje wrote:


> Of course if you subtract the compressed sound from the original, you 
> might hear a sizzle, but that's exactly that part of the sound which 
> gets masked, and which is actually missing in the compressed sound...
> 
> Stefan
> 

The (dubious anyway) theory of masking doesn't take into account stereo image.
So the "masked" sizzle can be audible.

..but as to whether there's really a sizzle, or it's just that the 
sounds that are present lose definition I'm not going to claim :-)

andy




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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Stefan Tiedje
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> I never ever heard a sizzle in mp3's, and I know nobody who does.


The word "sizzle" might be misleading. What mp3 compression destroys,
in my listening experience, is rather the deep bass and general
definition of stereo image. I must say though that with the 256 kpbs
mp3 compression I think music sounds ok even played over my production
rig of active Genelec 8030 plus matched sub bass speaker (a different
listening situation than headphones). If using AAC as the compression
I think you get even better sound per kilobyte. Never the less I use
Apple's lossless format for archiving and listening. It is about half
the file compared to uncompressed WAVE or AIFF.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>wrot=
e:

> Meanwhile, here's a video that's sort of on your subject,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5SaFTm2bcac
>
>
FANTASTIC!!! What a great docu...  really really interesting... I have had
and used that break myself... many times actually..!!


 On the other, I'm dumbfounded by
> what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out?
> How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as
> the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years?
>

Well thats an interesting question, and I wonder whether you thought it up
before or AFTER you heard this documentary? Because, as a very big fan of
Drum and Bass myself, and someone who was there, in grimy dark basements in
Brixton, while scary (to me) young black guys rapped (raggamuffin stylee)
over (what seemed to me) sped up records, at the end of the 80=B4s early
ninties... I became hooked, or facinated at least, by this genre that (at
the time) I just did'nt get. I went to lots and lots and lots of shows, all
the time staying very sober, as I was in places where often I was the only
white guy, (or usually with ONE other that I would drag along for support
and genrally would not come again)... YES at the time I felt everything
sounded simerlar, like they were always using the same drums, BUT... and it=
s
a HUGE but, and one that I can't quite explain, certainly dont want to use
an argument like "Well theres alot of music that uses the same 3 chords ove=
r
12bars"... Jungle and now B and B just is NOT all the same... its true that
I cant always tell the diference between one artist and another, but thats
whats interesting about the genre.. its ABOUT the re-manipulation of the
same sources, especially now when there is an interest in the genuine, or
old skool. Now the Amen break is used more than ever! Often without
manipulation, its become THE signiture Jungle sound... anything that doesnt
use it, is well... IDM (a term that we just dont like in the UK... too
well... pretentious)...

Back to my question to Matt, did you wonder about the central focus of the
genre on this one loop, BEFORE you knew that the genre used this one loop,
or did the genre seem quite ok before that... I dont think it matters that
its all the same loop... do we always have to be as diverse as possible, do
we always have to celebrate our differences, why not all get together and
admit you all want to do the same thing.. make fucked up beats with Amen,
and chuck some bone shaking sinewave basses under it... I know I did for a
while...



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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Matt Da=
vignon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com">matt=
davignon@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div id=3D":xt" class=3D"ii gt">Meanwhile, here&#39;s a video that&#39;s so=
rt of on your subject,<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5SaFTm2bcac" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5SaFTm2bcac</a><br>
<br>
</div></blockquote><div><br>FANTASTIC!!! What a great docu...=A0 really rea=
lly interesting... I have had and used that break myself... many times actu=
ally..!!<br><br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border=
-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-lef=
t: 1ex;">

<div id=3D":xt" class=3D"ii gt"> On the other, I&#39;m dumbfounded by<br>
what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out?<br>
How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as<br>
the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years?</div></blo=
ckquote><div><br>Well thats an interesting question, and I wonder whether y=
ou thought it up before or AFTER you heard this documentary? Because, as a =
very big fan of Drum and Bass myself, and someone who was there, in grimy d=
ark basements in Brixton, while scary (to me) young black guys rapped (ragg=
amuffin stylee) over (what seemed to me) sped up records, at the end of the=
 80=B4s early ninties... I became hooked, or facinated at least, by this ge=
nre that (at the time) I just did&#39;nt get. I went to lots and lots and l=
ots of shows, all the time staying very sober, as I was in places where oft=
en I was the only white guy, (or usually with ONE other that I would drag a=
long for support and genrally would not come again)... YES at the time I fe=
lt everything sounded simerlar, like they were always using the same drums,=
 BUT... and its a HUGE but, and one that I can&#39;t quite explain, certain=
ly dont want to use an argument like &quot;Well theres alot of music that u=
ses the same 3 chords over 12bars&quot;... Jungle and now B and B just is N=
OT all the same... its true that I cant always tell the diference between o=
ne artist and another, but thats whats interesting about the genre.. its AB=
OUT the re-manipulation of the same sources, especially now when there is a=
n interest in the genuine, or old skool. Now the Amen break is used more th=
an ever! Often without manipulation, its become THE signiture Jungle sound.=
.. anything that doesnt use it, is well... IDM (a term that we just dont li=
ke in the UK... too well... pretentious)...<br>

<br>Back to my question to Matt, did you wonder about the central focus of =
the genre on this one loop, BEFORE you knew that the genre used this one lo=
op, or did the genre seem quite ok before that... I dont think it matters t=
hat its all the same loop... do we always have to be as diverse as possible=
, do we always have to celebrate our differences, why not all get together =
and admit you all want to do the same thing.. make fucked up beats with Ame=
n, and chuck some bone shaking sinewave basses under it... I know I did for=
 a while...<br>

</div></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.markfran=
combe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825=
094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/us=
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You should record a 20-20k sweep tone and convert it to MP3.  You 
would be surprised.


>On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Stefan Tiedje
><stefantiedje@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I never ever heard a sizzle in mp3's, and I know nobody who does.
>
>
>The word "sizzle" might be misleading. What mp3 compression destroys,
>in my listening experience, is rather the deep bass and general
>definition of stereo image. I must say though that with the 256 kpbs
>mp3 compression I think music sounds ok even played over my production
>rig of active Genelec 8030 plus matched sub bass speaker (a different
>listening situation than headphones). If using AAC as the compression
>I think you get even better sound per kilobyte. Never the less I use
>Apple's lossless format for archiving and listening. It is about half
>the file compared to uncompressed WAVE or AIFF.
>
>Greetings from Sweden
>
>Per Boysen
>www.boysen.se
>www.perboysen.com


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>Art Simon schrieb:
>>I'm curious, is the "sizzle" introduced by mp3 encoding similar to the
>>"bitcrushing" the bitrman effect uses?
>
>This reminds me on the anecdote where the king asks his "scientists" 
>why  does throwing a dead fish into a full glass makes it overflow, 
>but if you throw a living fish into it it doesn't?
>They came up with 20 different theories explaining it, and not a 
>single one did the test...


Ah, this would explain WHY the glass is half empty..!


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Hi Matt,

The examples were just as a description of what kind of thing I was looking
for, not specifically chosen because of how distinctive they are. I suppose
the less distinctive the drum loop is, the more original the end result can
sound...

Finding songs isn't a problem, I was just looking to start a bit of
discussion on it, seemed to me that the topic could be useful for budding
bedroom-loopists! Also to get some new ideas, stuff i don't have myself.

Great vid by the way, very interesting.

>This is a bit of an odd question - throw most rock and roll cd's into
>the player and you'll find at least 2 songs that begin with just
>drumming. Your examples strike me as the sort will people will
>recognize the source within a few notes - is this intentional?

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Hi Matt,<br><br>The examples were just as a description of what kind of thing I was looking for, not specifically chosen because of how distinctive they are. I suppose the less distinctive the drum loop is, the more original the end result can sound...<br>

<br>Finding songs isn&#39;t a problem, I was just looking to start a bit of discussion on it, seemed to me that the topic could be useful for budding bedroom-loopists! Also to get some new ideas, stuff i don&#39;t have myself.<br>

<br>Great vid by the way, very interesting.<br><br>&gt;This is a bit of an odd question - throw most rock and roll cd&#39;s into<br>
&gt;the player and you&#39;ll find at least 2 songs that begin with just<br>
&gt;drumming. Your examples strike me as the sort will people will<br>
&gt;recognize the source within a few notes - is this intentional?<br>

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Charles Zwicky wrote:
> 
> You should record a 20-20k sweep tone and convert it to MP3.  You would 
> be surprised.
> 

You're right, I was :-)

Didn't expect it to reproduce a smooth sweep.

It's a good test, but doesn't show up the limitations at all.
(dunnow, maybe in a better listening environment, there certainly were a
  few artefacts revealed when mixing out of phase with the original) 

Next I tried with white noise,
and the metallic sizzle appeared like magic.




andy butler

( tests done with Audition, and mid-fi speakers, sitting
  by noisey pc. 
  mp3 at 128bps
  well, really it was 64bps mono,)

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By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe
this year? Does anyone know ?
Greets from Cologne
Christo
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> You are too kind, Rick. I just with I could do more. It is frustrating.
I
> really want to make a difference and generate more appreciation for the
> avant-garde and experimental music arts, and give artists more
gratification
> and credit, but at times I feel as if I were Sisyphus pushing his rock up
> the hill constantly.  The demand for this type of art is miniscule, and
> promoting it is like planning a goat rodeo.  :)  But in the end, I am very
> grateful to be able to get such fine musicians here in Boise, Idaho.
>
> Kris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
> > Kris wrote:
> > "A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy
patrons
> > of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :)  Believe me, if I were
> > indepedentally wealthy, I would not hestitate a minute to do something
> > like this at least once a year.  I'd be flying you all in first class
and
> > putting you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that."
> >
> >
> > Geez,  Kris,  you practically do this already with all your heroic
> > attempts to get granting and funding for your beautiful
> > festival of Experimental and Improvisation Music in Boise,
> > annually......................I think of you as one of the selfless
heroes
> > in this
> > kind of music.......................you and the Matt Davignons and
others
> > who have worked so hard to present new music and live looping
> > music.
> >
> >
>

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Andy,  thanks for putting some fish in the glasses....

The result of the process is not as bandwidth limiting as people 
assume (except at very low bit rates the HF response is filtered to 
prevent aliasing).  I am surprised by how frequently people say that 
they think MP3s have no bass.   It simply isn't true.

The white noise test will show up  artifacts because the process is 
based on a theory of perceptual encoding which states that certain 
loud sounds will mask certain quiet sounds and this is determined on 
a frequency by frequency basis. (in FFT 'bins').  A swept sine wave 
allows the process to deal with a single frequency at a time.  Given 
equal lengths, I wonder which test signal makes a smaller mp3 file.


CZ

>Charles Zwicky wrote:
>>
>>You should record a 20-20k sweep tone and convert it to MP3.  You 
>>would be surprised.
>>
>
>You're right, I was :-)
>
>Didn't expect it to reproduce a smooth sweep.
>
>It's a good test, but doesn't show up the limitations at all.
>(dunnow, maybe in a better listening environment, there certainly were a
>  few artefacts revealed when mixing out of phase with the original)
>Next I tried with white noise,
>and the metallic sizzle appeared like magic.
>
>
>
>
>andy butler
>
>( tests done with Audition, and mid-fi speakers, sitting
>  by noisey pc.  mp3 at 128bps
>  well, really it was 64bps mono,)


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> By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe
> this year? Does anyone know ?

Hi,
Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival '09:=

* May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium
* June 6 - Rome, Ialy

Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists, tic=
kets etc can be found on the website http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp or i=
f you have any questions, please let me know.
--- 
Sjaak
http://euroloopfest.com/
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw


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Hey Luis,

> Ive actually been quite happy with it,but the recent problem with my firewire problems also made me realize how fragile this things are and think what if that happened while i wes traveling or at a gig.
> I still dont know what went wrong,if it was a FW cable that burned my PCI card,RME,Presonus and macbook FW port,then i d be terrified to do a tour with this,
> i didnt know that a FW cable can cause such damage!

In that ruggedness discussion, I sometimes get the feeling that people
compare things which can't be compared with each other properly. If
you take as an example a musician who uses a setup of stomp boxes or
rackmount effects, you'll usually find them mounted into shock-mount
rack cases or specific cases for pedal boards, with everything screwed
firmly in place, cables of fitting length tied together neatly etc.
And these devices are constructed and made to be subjected to the
perils of life on the road and to last for a long time.

If you take a macbook, on the other hand, this is definitely not a
device designed for life on the road, much less to last for a long
time. As typically people tend to get a new computer every two years
or so, this is  the life span they target, and as most people usually
have them either sitting on their desk or packed neatly in a stylish
laptop bag and don't have them thrown by roadies etc., they will last
for that time span. And finally, they are not made to be used in some
kind of "fixed installation" (with all the cables permanently in
place), so cables just come out at all ends - and to keep it cheap,
cheap implementations are used for connectors which were designed
cheaply in the first place.

Mounting a laptop into a performance rig is one of the things that are
as of now unresolved in my opinion. Although I've finally settled with
integrating a laptop (as opposed to, say, a rackmount industry PC)
into my rig, this is still the weak point of my setup. There are no
mounting screws in my laptop. Connectors come out on different sides.
Etc. etc.

So if you'd compare (reliability of) computer-based solutions to
stompbox/rack effects implementations, you'd need to consider computer
made for being on the road: embedded/industry computers which adhere
to the higher protection classes - together with fitting
keyboard/pointer and screen, and mounted firmly in a rack.

Still, by using prudent wiring, I think I am able to avoid things like
firewire cables breaking. And besides, I don't power my firewire
interface via the bus. Which brings me to your question:
> But what about a bus powered FW soundcard like the RME FW400 or other?
Simple: use the external power supply!

> i guess there is no other way around it,wether is SW or HW you always need a backup.
I was just thinking about that other post I read the other day where
someone said "Have you ever heard of someone who brings a computer in
case his pedalboard fails?".

Seriously, although from most of our experiences it seems that
computer setups more often tend to have a complete failure, it's not
just that.
When doing fault tree analysis, you usually consider for a system of
several components a) how big the risk is that this specific component
fails (as a sum of its different means of failure) and b) how hard
that affects you.
And when we look at the comparison of the three main setups we tend to
see - A) pedalboard setup, B) rack setup, C) computer setup, and leave
your instrument(s) out of the consideration for one moment, it's some
like this.

A: Failure risks for all components are more or less equal and not too
high. What's more, usually none of the components is that pivotal and
thus is a showstopper (with the possible exception of a central PSU) -
meaning if your coveted MXR 90 phaser fails, you can simply patch
around it and continue nearly unaffected.
B: There is usually one pivotal component: the mixing console. For
that reason, some people tend to bring a spare power supply for bigger
consoles, because that seems to be the pivotal component that's most
likely to fail (a single channel failing won't hurt you that much).
C: So you have your computer, your interface and some means of MMI. If
the computer or the interface fails, it's over. Completely. No audio
without the computer or the interface.

So as in C the risk of a single failure as a showstopper is the sum of
the individual failure rates (as a number between 0 and 1) of the
components, for A (if we assume that you have to stop if three pedals
are gone) it's the product of the individual failure rates. In other
words, if the failure risk both for a single stompbox and for a
computer or interface was equal (which I'm not claiming) and 0.1 (10%,
which I'm not claiming, either), then the risk of a complete breakdown
was: for the computer 20%, for the pedalboard 0.1% which is 2000 times
lower.

What do we learn here? Change your computer setup so the single
components aren't showstoppers. E.g. use an audio interface which
allows for standalone operation (like your FF400) in combination with
an additional simple effects device which would allow you to get
going, and have adapters ready which allow you to work with your
computer's integrated soundcard. Whoops, the cumulated failure rate
has dropped from 20% to 1%.

             Rainer

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He, he... I flew in feeling like a precious Early Bird but got washed
out like a Guinea Pig! ;-))

I just noticed this bug and wonder if anyone else have noticed? When
recording a live input into the Looper plug-in, as Overdub, the
overdubbing is stopped as soon as I start an empty "dummy" audio clip
with clip envelopes to model Looper's parameter Speed.

Second, I noticed that Live 8.0.1 ALWAYS crashes if opening the MIDI
Map Mode window and mapping a MIDI Note to Looper's parameter Speed
and setting the range to "Min 0, Max 0". The idea here is of course to
set another MIDI note to match the next pitch in the scale - and so on
for each half note step (gosh, wish it could also follow MIDI Notes!)

The bottom line is that the two most immediate ways of playing the
loop tonally from external MIDI is out of order. Wondering how that
could pass the beta program...

The best way to loop in Live 8 seems to use Looper as a silent dummy
in order to secure a stable tempo pick-up, and then duplicate the same
external MIDI events used for Looper to target also a good third-party
looping plug-in as Mobius or Augustus Loop.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Sounds like you had a later go at the beta and may have an opinion on my =
questions perhaps -

Did they allow more than one overdub undo at latest check??

Also, with my echoplex I like to use NEXT LOOP and MULTIPLY to copy a =
loop from loop1 to loop 2 alot and add onto it then in one go.
I couldn't come up with a way to do this easily in the beta version =
though. :O(

I did notice as per your questions that each beta version had weird =
little bugs that would come and go.
I'm hopeful with fingers crossed the actual real version addresses all =
these. Got me wondering before an upgrade.

rick

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  He, he... I flew in feeling like a precious Early Bird but got washed
  out like a Guinea Pig! ;-))

  I just noticed this bug and wonder if anyone else have noticed? When
  recording a live input into the Looper plug-in, as Overdub, the
  overdubbing is stopped as soon as I start an empty "dummy" audio clip
  with clip envelopes to model Looper's parameter Speed.

  Second, I noticed that Live 8.0.1 ALWAYS crashes if opening the MIDI
  Map Mode window and mapping a MIDI Note to Looper's parameter Speed
  and setting the range to "Min 0, Max 0". The idea here is of course to
  set another MIDI note to match the next pitch in the scale - and so on
  for each half note step (gosh, wish it could also follow MIDI Notes!)

  The bottom line is that the two most immediate ways of playing the
  loop tonally from external MIDI is out of order. Wondering how that
  could pass the beta program...

  The best way to loop in Live 8 seems to use Looper as a silent dummy
  in order to secure a stable tempo pick-up, and then duplicate the same
  external MIDI events used for Looper to target also a good third-party
  looping plug-in as Mobius or Augustus Loop.

  Greetings from Sweden

  Per Boysen
  www.boysen.se
  www.perboysen.com


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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, rick miller <bs@tanawana.com> wrote:
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> questions perhaps -

I'm talking about the release version. The beta cycle has ended now.

> Did they allow more than one overdub undo at latest check??

The release version does not. The same virtual button is used for
alternating between Undo and Redo. The Undo button erases everything
that you've overdubbed since the last time Overdub was enabled. Your
original recording, and anything that was overdubbed in a previous
pass,
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> :O(

Well, in order to do that in software you should use Mobius.

First, Live 8 Looper doesn't have any Multiply, as understood in the
EDP context. Looper has a function though that multiplies or devides
the loop length by two. When multiplying the audio content is
duplicated. Second, Looper can not cue up loops like we do on the EDP.
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e
> bugs that would come and go.
> I'm hopeful with fingers crossed the actual real version addresses all
> these. Got me wondering before an upgrade.

Per

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Can you have more than one looper running?
Sylvain

On 4/3/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, rick miller <bs@tanawana.com> wrote:
> > Sounds like you had a later go at the beta and may have an opinion on my
> > questions perhaps -
>
> I'm talking about the release version. The beta cycle has ended now.
>
> > Did they allow more than one overdub undo at latest check??
>
> The release version does not. The same virtual button is used for
> alternating between Undo and Redo. The Undo button erases everything
> that you've overdubbed since the last time Overdub was enabled. Your
> original recording, and anything that was overdubbed in a previous
> pass,
> is preserved.
>
>
> > Also, with my echoplex I like to use NEXT LOOP and MULTIPLY to copy a
> loop
> > from loop1 to loop 2 alot and add onto it then in one go.
> > I couldn't come up with a way to do this easily in the beta version
> though.
> > :O(
>
> Well, in order to do that in software you should use Mobius.
>
> First, Live 8 Looper doesn't have any Multiply, as understood in the
> EDP context. Looper has a function though that multiplies or devides
> the loop length by two. When multiplying the audio content is
> duplicated. Second, Looper can not cue up loops like we do on the EDP.
> > I did notice as per your questions that each beta version had weird
> little
> > bugs that would come and go.
> > I'm hopeful with fingers crossed the actual real version addresses all
> > these. Got me wondering before an upgrade.
>
> Per
>
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<div>Can you have more than one looper running?</div>
<div>Sylvain<br>=A0</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 4/3/09, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">P=
er Boysen</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, =
rick miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bs@tanawana.com">bs@tanawana.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
&gt; Sounds like you had a later go at the beta and may have an opinion on =
my<br>&gt; questions perhaps -<br><br>I&#39;m talking about the release ver=
sion. The beta cycle has ended now.<br><br>&gt; Did they allow more than on=
e overdub undo at latest check??<br>
<br>The release version does not. The same virtual button is used for<br>al=
ternating between Undo and Redo. The Undo button erases everything<br>that =
you&#39;ve overdubbed since the last time Overdub was enabled. Your<br>
original recording, and anything that was overdubbed in a previous<br>pass,=
<br>is preserved.<br><br><br>&gt; Also, with my echoplex I like to use NEXT=
 LOOP and MULTIPLY to copy a loop<br>&gt; from loop1 to loop 2 alot and add=
 onto it then in one go.<br>
&gt; I couldn&#39;t come up with a way to do this easily in the beta versio=
n though.<br>&gt; :O(<br><br>Well, in order to do that in software you shou=
ld use Mobius.<br><br>First, Live 8 Looper doesn&#39;t have any Multiply, a=
s understood in the<br>
EDP context. Looper has a function though that multiplies or devides<br>the=
 loop length by two. When multiplying the audio content is<br>duplicated. S=
econd, Looper can not cue up loops like we do on the EDP.<br>&gt; I did not=
ice as per your questions that each beta version had weird little<br>
&gt; bugs that would come and go.<br>&gt; I&#39;m hopeful with fingers cros=
sed the actual real version addresses all<br>&gt; these. Got me wondering b=
efore an upgrade.<br><br>Per<br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Sylvain Poitras
<sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can you have more than one looper running?

Of course, any plug-in can be opened in an infinite number of
instances! And with that I'm done with Live 8 for a while, being too
busy rehearsing live looping with another software setup.

per

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Hi,

Anyone have any suggestions for a vst preamp for clean classical guitar.
I want to start with clean tones and mangle them later.

Andre



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Ja wohl mein freund,aber so =E4hnlich sieht mein Rig im moment aus!=0AThis =
is why i i am still hauling my pedalboard with stomps and the good ol DL4 b=
esides my lappy which has replaced my EDP.I thought by getting the Motu i c=
ould further economize on the mixer and perhaps later on  VSTs to economize=
 on the stomps but...=0Anot yet anyway;-)=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> =0A> What =
do we learn here? Change your computer setup so the=0A> single=0A> componen=
ts aren't showstoppers. E.g. use an audio interface=0A> which=0A> allows fo=
r standalone operation (like your FF400) in=0A> combination with=0A> an add=
itional simple effects device which would allow you=0A> to get=0A> going, a=
nd have adapters ready which allow you to work with=0A> your=0A> computer's=
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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Andr=E9 Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com> wrot=
e:
> Anyone have any suggestions for a vst preamp for clean classical guitar.
> I want to start with clean tones and mangle them later.

An equalizer and compressor plug-in would do well in simulating a
pre-amp typically used for that instrument, since the ideal here is a
transparent amplification.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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hi-

if you want to try doing a proper A/B test of mp3 compression, perhaps  
this piece of software would help add a little scientific rigour to  
the process...

http://cs.brown.edu/~tl/software.shtml

take a look at the "MacABX" tool. seems like it would certainly help  
limit the bias...

good luck!!

- tyler / informatik

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I liked drum and bass for about 6 months in the 90s, and then it went
stale for me pretty quickly after that. As a genre, it sounded amazing
when it first started getting around, but then there was no evolution.
As more and more musicians started doing it I was disappointed by how
little variation there was from artist to artist. It was like being
told the same very funny joke over and over again.

So when I first saw that youtube clip, I was like - Aha! That explains it!

I find it appealing that a large pool of musicians could do different
things with the same source material. The problem with DnB for me is
that I don't feel like they're doing different things. The amen break
is almost always front and center in the mix, and with all but a few
artists the way it's sampled/deconstructed is virtually the same,
except for the occasional pitch bend here and there.

So to answer your question, I always thought that most DnB after 1997
or so was pretty unoriginal - unforgivably so after 2000. I didn't
know until I saw the video that they were literally using the exact
same drum sample. I've known since 1999 or so that there is software
that you can drop a drum beat into and have it automatically
"jungle-ized".

Still, I think this story about the Amen Break is probably one of the
top 5 most interesting stories in the history of electronic music.

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com

At first I was like:
>>I'm dumbfounded by
>> what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out?
>> How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as
>> the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years?

Them Marc Francombe was all:
> Well thats an interesting question, and I wonder whether you thought it up
> before or AFTER you heard this documentary?

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Just a note to post a collection of odds and ends, loosetunes and offall 
from the studio floor. I released it under my Drachton Below project 
moniker. Mostly live looping with some found sounds spliced in on a couple 
of tunes. I play oud, acoustic and electric guitar, loops and electronics. 
It kind of grew on me like a bad rash. :)

Get it free here: http://thisphase.org/tunes/Wait_For_Them.rar

best,

Jeff

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http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899
http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/



Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck 

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Thanks for the link, tyler!

>hi-
>
>if you want to try doing a proper A/B test of mp3 compression, 
>perhaps this piece of software would help add a little scientific 
>rigour to the process...
>
>http://cs.brown.edu/~tl/software.shtml
>
>take a look at the "MacABX" tool. seems like it would certainly help 
>limit the bias...
>
>good luck!!
>
>- tyler / informatik


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Thanks Per,

Sound Advice. :)
I'll give it a go.

Andre

On Fri, April 3, 2009 2:11 pm, Per Boysen wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:12 PM, André Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com>
> wrote:
>> Anyone have any suggestions for a vst preamp for clean classical guitar.
>> I want to start with clean tones and mangle them later.
>
> An equalizer and compressor plug-in would do well in simulating a
> pre-amp typically used for that instrument, since the ideal here is a
> transparent amplification.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>



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Dang it ... I'll still be in Zadar on the 30th and get in to Paris on the
morning of the 31st. I leave Paris the morning of  1 June ... is there
anything else going on? For what it's worth, I'm in Dubrovnik from the 23rd
to 27th, then up to Zadar, and then home by way of Paris.

Dennis

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> > By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe
> > this year? Does anyone know ?
>
> Hi,
> Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival '09:
> * May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium
> * June 6 - Rome, Ialy
>
> Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists,
> tickets etc can be found on the website http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp o=
r
> if you have any questions, please let me know.
> ---
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> http://euroloopfest.com/
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Dang it ... I&#39;ll still be in Zadar on the 30th and get in to Paris on t=
he morning of the 31st. I leave Paris the morning of=A0 1 June ... is there=
 anything else going on? For what it&#39;s worth, I&#39;m in Dubrovnik from=
 the 23rd to 27th, then up to Zadar, and then home by way of Paris.<br>
<br>Dennis<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:30 AM=
, Sjaak <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@scarlet.be">tcplug=
in@scarlet.be</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
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; padding-left: 1ex;">
&gt; By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe<br>
&gt; this year? Does anyone know ?<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival &#39;0=
9:<br>
* May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium<br>
* June 6 - Rome, Ialy<br>
<br>
Btw: I&#39;m organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists, t=
ickets etc can be found on the website <a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/a=
ntwerp" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp</a> or if you hav=
e any questions, please let me know.<br>

---<br>
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com/</a><br>
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auw.com/</a><br>
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://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw</a><br>
<br>
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the website looks gorgeous!
hope you have a great night
of live loopery.

any info or website for the rome
gig, fabio?


2009/4/3 Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>

> > By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe
> > this year? Does anyone know ?
>
> Hi,
> Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival '09:
> * May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium
> * June 6 - Rome, Ialy
>
> Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists,
> tickets etc can be found on the website http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp o=
r
> if you have any questions, please let me know.
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
>
>
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the website looks gorgeous!<br>hope you have a great night<br>of live loope=
ry.<br><br>any info or website for the rome<br>gig, fabio?<br><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/4/3 Sjaak <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:tcplugin@scarlet.be">tcplugin@scarlet.be</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&gt; By the way: =
Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe<br>
&gt; this year? Does anyone know ?<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival &#39;0=
9:<br>
* May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium<br>
* June 6 - Rome, Ialy<br>
<br>
Btw: I&#39;m organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists, t=
ickets etc can be found on the website <a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/a=
ntwerp" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp</a> or if you hav=
e any questions, please let me know.<br>

---<br>
Sjaak<br>
<a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.=
com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://sjaakovergaauw.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://sjaakoverga=
auw.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw</a><br>
<br>
<br>
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I've written up seven tracks from Jeff Duke, part of a larger collection 
called "Loops in Phase Space" (or LIPS, a title I'm kinda partial to..).

http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Jeff_Duke.htm

Other fine folks have sent me stuff, too, and hopefully I can get to 
those in the next month or so before I split on tour.

Daryl Shawn
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I can't say enough good things about the Universal Audio UAD series of =
plug
in bundles. , which, being far from a free vst plug-ins, have an =
incredible
assortment of classic Neve pre-amp modules, Pultec equalizers, and LA-2 =
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Hi,

Anyone have any suggestions for a vst preamp for clean classical guitar.
I want to start with clean tones and mangle them later.

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Daryl, thanks for taking the time to review this collection. I am glad you 
dug it. From your other reviews I knew that you are one for really listening 
to music and I value your thoughts highly. You and so many others on this 
list have been a tremendous positive influence on my creative spirit.  I am 
looking forward to meeting you and many others at Y2K9! Rock on!

All the best,

Jeff


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> I've written up seven tracks from Jeff Duke, part of a larger collection 
> called "Loops in Phase Space" (or LIPS, a title I'm kinda partial to..).
>
> http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Jeff_Duke.htm
>
> Other fine folks have sent me stuff, too, and hopefully I can get to those 
> in the next month or so before I split on tour.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
> 

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Jeff, the pleasure was all mine. looking forward to meeting up and 
hearing you play at the fest too!

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> Daryl, thanks for taking the time to review this collection. I am glad 
> you dug it. From your other reviews I knew that you are one for really 
> listening to music and I value your thoughts highly. You and so many 
> others on this list have been a tremendous positive influence on my 
> creative spirit.  I am looking forward to meeting you and many others 
> at Y2K9! Rock on!
>
> All the best,
>
> Jeff
>
>
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>> partial to..).
>>
>> http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Jeff_Duke.htm
>>
>> Other fine folks have sent me stuff, too, and hopefully I can get to 
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>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
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I hope the website will be on line in a few days..,stay tuned....

Fabio


Il giorno 04/apr/09, alle ore 01:14, Raul Bonell =20
<raul.bonell@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> the website looks gorgeous!
> hope you have a great night
> of live loopery.
>
> any info or website for the rome
> gig, fabio?
>
>
> 2009/4/3 Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>
> > By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe
> > this year? Does anyone know ?
>
> Hi,
> Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival =20=

> '09:
> * May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium
> * June 6 - Rome, Ialy
>
> Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding =20
> artists, tickets etc can be found on the website =
http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp=20
>  or if you have any questions, please let me know.
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
>
>
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>I hope the website will be on line =
in a few days..,stay =
tuned....</div><div><br></div><div>Fabio<br><br></div><div><br>Il giorno =
04/apr/09, alle ore 01:14, Raul Bonell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com">raul.bonell@gmail.com</a>> ha =
scritto:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>the =
website looks gorgeous!<br>hope you have a great night<br>of live =
loopery.<br><br>any info or website for the rome<br>gig, =
fabio?<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/4/3 Sjaak <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@scarlet.be"><a =
href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@scarlet.be">tcplugin@scarlet.be</a></a>></span><br=
>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> By =
the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe<br>
> this year? Does anyone know ?<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival =
'09:<br>
* May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium<br>
* June 6 - Rome, Ialy<br>
<br>
Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists, =
tickets etc can be found on the website <a =
href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp" target=3D"_blank"><a =
href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp">http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp</=
a></a> or if you have any questions, please let me know.<br>

---<br>
Sjaak<br>
<a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank"><a =
href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/">http://euroloopfest.com/</a></a><br>
<a href=3D"http://sjaakovergaauw.com/" target=3D"_blank"><a =
href=3D"http://sjaakovergaauw.com/">http://sjaakovergaauw.com/</a></a><br>=

<a href=3D"http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw" target=3D"_blank"><a =
href=3D"http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw">http://www.last.fm/music=
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<br>
<br>
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<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at =
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No.. but you ARE right of course... alot of Jungle IS CRAP!!! AND there is
alot of jungle... sorry, you calling it Drum and Bass... I still call it
Jungle usually, I know te difference, but I dont think about it.. I think
for me it not been about whether individual musicians tracks are better of
different from each others.. for me theres just been Jungle in my life for
15 years (the documentary says 10, but I KNOW what I was listening to in
these grimy clubs in '89 90.. and that WAS jungle, or some kinda pre-cursor
to it...)

There has been no evolution per se, you are right... theres been a rise, a
fall, a renaming (J becomes D&B), a rise again, a fall, a reappropriation (
by so called IDM artists, Aphex and Autecre to name but...) a
commercialisation (anyone hear the AWFUL Bowie album, shame on him) a fall,
and then now a bit of a rise again (maybe beat-boxing has someting to do
with this, or Dubstep, Grime scene.

To say Jungle has had no evolution is true, Jungle is a sound, a way of
using the top and bottom of the freq spec (not much mid in Jungle) a mix
between super fast sped up drums and slow low end dubby bass.. that
certainly has been used abused re-used and re-abused, to an extent that I
find very interesting...

Mark



>
> At first I was like:
> >>I'm dumbfounded by
> >> what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out?
> >> How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as
> >> the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years?
>
> Them Marc Francombe was all:
> > Well thats an interesting question, and I wonder whether you thought it
> up
> > before or AFTER you heard this documentary?
>
>


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No.. but you ARE right of course... alot of Jungle IS CRAP!!! AND there is =
alot of jungle... sorry, you calling it Drum and Bass... I still call it Ju=
ngle usually, I know te difference, but I dont think about it.. I think for=
 me it not been about whether individual musicians tracks are better of dif=
ferent from each others.. for me theres just been Jungle in my life for 15 =
years (the documentary says 10, but I KNOW what I was listening to in these=
 grimy clubs in &#39;89 90.. and that WAS jungle, or some kinda pre-cursor =
to it...)<br>

<br>There has been no evolution per se, you are right... theres been a rise=
, a fall, a renaming (J becomes D&amp;B), a rise again, a fall, a reappropr=
iation ( by so called IDM artists, Aphex and Autecre to name but...) a comm=
ercialisation (anyone hear the AWFUL Bowie album, shame on him) a fall, and=
 then now a bit of a rise again (maybe beat-boxing has someting to do with =
this, or Dubstep, Grime scene.<br>

<br>To say Jungle has had no evolution is true, Jungle is a sound, a way of=
 using the top and bottom of the freq spec (not much mid in Jungle) a mix b=
etween super fast sped up drums and slow low end dubby bass.. that certainl=
y has been used abused re-used and re-abused, to an extent that I find very=
 interesting...<br>

<br>Mark<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0=
pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
<br>
At first I was like:<br>
&gt;&gt;I&#39;m dumbfounded by<br>
&gt;&gt; what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me =
out?<br>
&gt;&gt; How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loo=
p as<br>
&gt;&gt; the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years?<b=
r>
<br>
Them Marc Francombe was all:<br>
&gt; Well thats an interesting question, and I wonder whether you thought i=
t up<br>
&gt; before or AFTER you heard this documentary?<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.m=
arkfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/=
user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://uk.youtube=
.com/user/markfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">http://www.myspace.com/mar=
kfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSync=
h%20Non%20Synch">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy=
nch</a><br>



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On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:44 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> To say Jungle has had no evolution is true, Jungle is a sound, a way of
> using the top and bottom of the freq spec (not much mid in Jungle) a mix
> between super fast sped up drums and slow low end dubby bass.. that
> certainly has been used abused re-used and re-abused, to an extent that I
> find very interesting...

Well said, by Marc! But there is also a certain vibe to it. Actually
that's what I like in jungle. It pretty much got lost in DnB though.
But the greatest jungle vibe ever hasn't risen yet, although LTJ Bukem
was close: to continue in electronics the direction Pharoa Sanders
brought in the late sixtie's jazz. I can't explain it in detail as it
IS about a vibe, totally. Still waiting for that great music to
happen...

Per
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Hello All,

I've been out of the "loop" for some time, but some time back one that  
was loads of fun dealt with songsmith.

A musician friend of mine (Karnak, Pato Fu) in Brazil sent me this link.

You may have seen it already, if so my most humble apologies.

Otherwise, enjoy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZvLprEIpw

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One of these days I've got to make it over there.

On Apr 3, 2009, at 11:17 PM, fabio@nile wrote:

>  Hi,
>  Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival 
> '09:
>  * May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium
>  * June 6 - Rome, Ialy

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Wow.. I didnt even know about it.. or I would have nagged for a spot!!! Hmm
its a very long drive from Norway, but might be worth the effort  just to
see this line-up!! Its going to be great, Well done Sjaak..

MArk

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

> the website looks gorgeous!
> hope you have a great night
> of live loopery.
>
> any info or website for the rome
> gig, fabio?
>
>
> 2009/4/3 Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>
>
>> > By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe
>> > this year? Does anyone know ?
>>
>> Hi,
>> Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival '09=
:
>> * May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium
>> * June 6 - Rome, Ialy
>>
>> Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists,
>> tickets etc can be found on the website http://euroloopfest.com/antwerpo=
r if you have any questions, please let me know.
>> ---
>> Sjaak
>> http://euroloopfest.com/
>> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
>> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
>>
>>
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Wow.. I didnt even know about it.. or I would have nagged for a spot!!! Hmm=
 its a very long drive from Norway, but might be worth the effort=A0 just t=
o see this line-up!! Its going to be great, Well done Sjaak..<br><br>MArk<b=
r>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Raul Bonell =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com">raul.bonell@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p=
adding-left: 1ex;">

the website looks gorgeous!<br>hope you have a great night<br>of live loope=
ry.<br><br>any info or website for the rome<br>gig, fabio?<br><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/4/3 Sjaak <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:tcplugin@scarlet.be" target=3D"_blank">tcplugin@scarlet.be</a>&gt;</span>=
<div class=3D"im">

<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&gt; By the way: =
Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe<br>
&gt; this year? Does anyone know ?<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival &#39;0=
9:<br>
* May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium<br>
* June 6 - Rome, Ialy<br>
<br>
Btw: I&#39;m organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists, t=
ickets etc can be found on the website <a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/a=
ntwerp" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp</a> or if you hav=
e any questions, please let me know.<br>



---<br>
Sjaak<br>
<a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.=
com/</a><br>
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auw.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw</a><br>
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Don't really know anything about D&B but i lov this synced up mess:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmhZVjaqQo&feature=channel_page
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>Sent: Apr 4, 2009 7:00 AM
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>On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:44 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
>> To say Jungle has had no evolution is true, Jungle is a sound, a way of
>> using the top and bottom of the freq spec (not much mid in Jungle) a mix
>> between super fast sped up drums and slow low end dubby bass.. that
>> certainly has been used abused re-used and re-abused, to an extent that I
>> find very interesting...
>
>Well said, by Marc! But there is also a certain vibe to it. Actually
>that's what I like in jungle. It pretty much got lost in DnB though.
>But the greatest jungle vibe ever hasn't risen yet, although LTJ Bukem
>was close: to continue in electronics the direction Pharoa Sanders
>brought in the late sixtie's jazz. I can't explain it in detail as it
>IS about a vibe, totally. Still waiting for that great music to
>happen...
>
>Per
>(Crappification Assurance Manager)
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At 6:03 PM +0200 4/3/09, Per Boysen wrote:
>
>I just noticed this bug and wonder if anyone else have noticed? When
>recording a live input into the Looper plug-in, as Overdub, the
>overdubbing is stopped as soon as I start an empty "dummy" audio clip
>with clip envelopes to model Looper's parameter Speed.

Per,

Tried most of the day, but I can't replicate this bug.  :(

I've used both a dummy audio clip with clip envelopes as well with an 
empty MIDI clip sending CC information around through the IAC bus. 
Both worked without a hitch; Overdub never flinched.  I was 
auto-wobbling the Speed parameter back and forth like crazy.  Sounded 
like a reel-to-reel tape machine throwing up....

No idea what I might be doing differently, or why it should work for 
my computer and not yours.  I'm on a black Macbook, 2.0G Intel 
Core2Duo, 2G RAM.

>Second, I noticed that Live 8.0.1 ALWAYS crashes if opening the MIDI
>Map Mode window and mapping a MIDI Note to Looper's parameter Speed
>and setting the range to "Min 0, Max 0".

This one I confirmed immediately.  Set the range to "Min 0, Max 0" 
and -- *bam* -- Live evaporated, exactly like you described.  Sending 
in a bug report and logs to Ableton now.

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On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
> Tried most of the day, but I can't replicate this bug. =A0:(

That's good news! Putting this on my "check out" list. Obviously the
fishy part lives with in my local treatments ;-)

> =A0Sounded like a reel-to-reel tape
> machine throwing up....

Ah... brilliant poetry!

Per

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If anybody is interested, I'm selling my pedalboard since I have gone
the laptop route. Here is the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120402154290&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling




Todd

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> If anybody is interested, I'm selling my pedalboard since I have gone the laptop route.

Hey, you mustn't sell your hardware stuff just because you have got
one of those nerdmachines. There's so many things you can do with
hardware stuff, and even integrate it with your computer setup (see my
discussion with Luis here and also this:
http://moinlabs.de/images/external/Das_gro%C3%9Fe_Bild.jpg).

In case you wonder: yes, I spent the best of last month redecorating
my place. And no, these on the wall (and the 300-someish in the setup)
aren't all of my cables, there's more ;).

I hate cables...

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Hello All

Looping live from here streaming using ustream a t 4 O'Clock (half  
hour from now!!!)

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/matt-stevens-from-the-box-room

IT just me a DL4, a acoustic guitar, a whammy pedal and a volume pedal.

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Hey Matt, was that 4 am? i just got this email.10:30 am est. I was up at =
4 am! Will there be archives?

keep on looping,

Jeff
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  Hello All


  Looping live from here streaming using ustream a t 4 O'Clock (half =
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  Matt Stevens
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Jeff,
if you read this soon enough:-

IT's NOW

4pm British Summer Time
andy

Jeff Duke wrote:
> Hey Matt, was that 4 am? i just got this email.10:30 am est. I was up at 
> 4 am! Will there be archives?
>  
> keep on looping,
>  
> Jeff
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Matt Stevens <mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
>     *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:24 AM
>     *Subject:* Live Webstream Live looping
> 
> 
>     Hello All
> 
>     Looping live from here streaming using ustream a t 4 O'Clock (half
>     hour from now!!!)
> 
>     http://www.ustream.tv/channel/matt-stevens-from-the-box-room
> 
>     IT just me a DL4, a acoustic guitar, a whammy pedal and a volume pedal. 
> 
>     See you there
> 
>     Matt Stevens
>     www.mattstevensguitar.com <http://www.mattstevensguitar.com>
>     mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>     <mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
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> 
> 
> 

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yea!!

j

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
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> Jeff,
> if you read this soon enough:-
>
> IT's NOW
>
> 4pm British Summer Time
> andy
>
> Jeff Duke wrote:
>> Hey Matt, was that 4 am? i just got this email.10:30 am est. I was up at 
>> 4 am! Will there be archives?
>>  keep on looping,
>>  Jeff
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* Matt Stevens <mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
>>     *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>     *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:24 AM
>>     *Subject:* Live Webstream Live looping
>>
>>
>>     Hello All
>>
>>     Looping live from here streaming using ustream a t 4 O'Clock (half
>>     hour from now!!!)
>>
>>     http://www.ustream.tv/channel/matt-stevens-from-the-box-room
>>
>>     IT just me a DL4, a acoustic guitar, a whammy pedal and a volume 
>> pedal. See you there
>>
>>     Matt Stevens
>>     www.mattstevensguitar.com <http://www.mattstevensguitar.com>
>>     mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>>     <mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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now's me!

2009/4/5 Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>

> yea!!
>
> j
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Live Webstream Live looping
>
>
>
>  Jeff,
>> if you read this soon enough:-
>>
>> IT's NOW
>>
>> 4pm British Summer Time
>> andy
>>
>> Jeff Duke wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Matt, was that 4 am? i just got this email.10:30 am est. I was up at
>>> 4 am! Will there be archives?
>>>  keep on looping,
>>>  Jeff
>>>
>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>    *From:* Matt Stevens <mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
>>>    *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>    <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>>    *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:24 AM
>>>    *Subject:* Live Webstream Live looping
>>>
>>>
>>>    Hello All
>>>
>>>    Looping live from here streaming using ustream a t 4 O'Clock (half
>>>    hour from now!!!)
>>>
>>>    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/matt-stevens-from-the-box-room
>>>
>>>    IT just me a DL4, a acoustic guitar, a whammy pedal and a volume
>>> pedal. See you there
>>>
>>>    Matt Stevens
>>>    www.mattstevensguitar.com <http://www.mattstevensguitar.com>
>>>    mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>>>    <mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


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now&#39;s me!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/4/5 Jeff Duke <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:=
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;">
yea!!<br>
<br>
j<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;andy butler&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&=
gt;<div class=3D"im"><br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br></div>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:58 AM<br>
Subject: Re: Live Webstream Live looping<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><=
br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Jeff,<br>
if you read this soon enough:-<br>
<br>
IT&#39;s NOW<br>
<br>
4pm British Summer Time<br>
andy<br>
<br>
Jeff Duke wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hey Matt, was that 4 am? i just got this email.10:30 am est. I was up at 4 =
am! Will there be archives?<br>
=A0keep on looping,<br>
=A0Jeff<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0----- Original Message -----<br>
 =A0 =A0*From:* Matt Stevens &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar=
@btinternet.com" target=3D"_blank">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a>&gt;=
<br>
 =A0 =A0*To:* <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=
=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
 =A0 =A0&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
 =A0 =A0*Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:24 AM<br>
 =A0 =A0*Subject:* Live Webstream Live looping<br>
<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Hello All<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Looping live from here streaming using ustream a t 4 O&#39;Clock (h=
alf<br>
 =A0 =A0hour from now!!!)<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/matt-stevens-from-the-box-=
room" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/matt-stevens-from-the=
-box-room</a><br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0IT just me a DL4, a acoustic guitar, a whammy pedal and a volume pe=
dal. See you there<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0Matt Stevens<br>
 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com" target=3D"_blank">www.=
mattstevensguitar.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com" =
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k">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a><br>
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et=3D"_blank">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell=
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On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Rainer Straschill
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> In case you wonder: yes, I spent the best of last month redecorating
> my place. And no, these on the wall (and the 300-someish in the setup)
> aren't all of my cables, there's more ;).
>

Yes, but clever use of coat rack... Me I also hate cables, but mine are in a
cardboard box tangling themselves into impossible knots...

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Rainer S=
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<div id=3D":zd" class=3D"ii gt">In case you wonder: yes, I spent the best o=
f last month redecorating<br>
my place. And no, these on the wall (and the 300-someish in the setup)<br>
aren&#39;t all of my cables, there&#39;s more ;).</div></blockquote></div><=
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in a cardboard box tangling themselves into impossible knots...<br clear=3D=
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you don't mention what size the pedalboard is!  I might be  
interested.  I have one but it's too big for flying around.

Have you ever tried hand carrying it onto a plane? That would be cool,  
but I doubt the security geeks would allow it.  I've had a hard enough  
time with tubes!  I wonder if it would survive in cargo???

R
richard sales
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On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:29 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:

> If anybody is interested, I'm selling my pedalboard since I have gone
> the laptop route. Here is the link:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120402154290&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling
>
>
>
>
> Todd
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Rainer, that picture of your studio looks amazing! I know it would be
a nice backup to have the hardware stuff but I already sold the
hardware stuff to fund the laptop purchase:) I can only afford one or
the other right now.

Todd

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Rainer Straschill
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>> If anybody is interested, I'm selling my pedalboard since I have gone the laptop route.
>
> Hey, you mustn't sell your hardware stuff just because you have got
> one of those nerdmachines. There's so many things you can do with
> hardware stuff, and even integrate it with your computer setup (see my
> discussion with Luis here and also this:
> http://moinlabs.de/images/external/Das_gro%C3%9Fe_Bild.jpg).
>
> In case you wonder: yes, I spent the best of last month redecorating
> my place. And no, these on the wall (and the 300-someish in the setup)
> aren't all of my cables, there's more ;).
>
> I hate cables...
>
>

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I have a couple of these, they are very well made,
 Good Luck
 Bill
 PS now that you've gone lap top, how are you going fulfill your need for
Velcro?

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If anybody is interested, I'm selling my pedalboard since I have gone
the laptop route. Here is the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120402154290&_trksid=p390
7.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling




Todd

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Thanks for watching - i've archived the gig here http:// 
mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com/ if you want to watch it here.

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com




On 5 Apr 2009, at 15:54, Jeff Duke wrote:

> yea!!
>
> j
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler"  
> <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Live Webstream Live looping
>
>
>> Jeff,
>> if you read this soon enough:-
>>
>> IT's NOW
>>
>> 4pm British Summer Time
>> andy
>>
>> Jeff Duke wrote:
>>> Hey Matt, was that 4 am? i just got this email.10:30 am est. I  
>>> was up at 4 am! Will there be archives?
>>>  keep on looping,
>>>  Jeff
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     *From:* Matt Stevens <mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
>>>     *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>     <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>>     *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:24 AM
>>>     *Subject:* Live Webstream Live looping
>>>
>>>
>>>     Hello All
>>>
>>>     Looping live from here streaming using ustream a t 4 O'Clock  
>>> (half
>>>     hour from now!!!)
>>>
>>>     http://www.ustream.tv/channel/matt-stevens-from-the-box-room
>>>
>>>     IT just me a DL4, a acoustic guitar, a whammy pedal and a  
>>> volume pedal. See you there
>>>
>>>     Matt Stevens
>>>     www.mattstevensguitar.com <http://www.mattstevensguitar.com>
>>>     mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>>>     <mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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THe link to Ranier's studio didn't work for me.  I keep getting the  
'no such page' message.

R

On Apr 5, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:

> Rainer, that picture of your studio looks amazing! I know it would be
> a nice backup to have the hardware stuff but I already sold the
> hardware stuff to fund the laptop purchase:) I can only afford one or
> the other right now.
>
> Todd
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Rainer Straschill
> <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> If anybody is interested, I'm selling my pedalboard since I have  
>>> gone the laptop route.
>>
>> Hey, you mustn't sell your hardware stuff just because you have got
>> one of those nerdmachines. There's so many things you can do with
>> hardware stuff, and even integrate it with your computer setup (see  
>> my
>> discussion with Luis here and also this:
>> http://moinlabs.de/images/external/Das_gro%C3%9Fe_Bild.jpg).
>>
>> In case you wonder: yes, I spent the best of last month redecorating
>> my place. And no, these on the wall (and the 300-someish in the  
>> setup)
>> aren't all of my cables, there's more ;).
>>
>> I hate cables...
>>
>>
>

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Take off the parenthesis and period on the end of the link and its fine.

Kevin

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:15 AM, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrot=
e:
> THe link to Ranier's studio didn't work for me. =A0I keep getting the 'no=
 such
> page' message.
> R
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:
>
> Rainer, that picture of your studio looks amazing! I know it would be
> a nice backup to have the hardware stuff but I already sold the
> hardware stuff to fund the laptop purchase:) I can only afford one or
> the other right now.
>
> Todd
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Rainer Straschill
> <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> If anybody is interested, I'm selling my pedalboard since I have gone the
> laptop route.
>
> Hey, you mustn't sell your hardware stuff just because you have got
>
> one of those nerdmachines. There's so many things you can do with
>
> hardware stuff, and even integrate it with your computer setup (see my
>
> discussion with Luis here and also this:
>
> http://moinlabs.de/images/external/Das_gro%C3%9Fe_Bild.jpg).
>
> In case you wonder: yes, I spent the best of last month redecorating
>
> my place. And no, these on the wall (and the 300-someish in the setup)
>
> aren't all of my cables, there's more ;).
>
> I hate cables...
>
>
>
>
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.com
> www.richardsales.com
> www.hayleysales.com
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Richard said:
> THe link to Ranier's studio didn't work for me.  I keep getting the 'no such page' message

Hey Richard,

did Kevin's suggestion work for you? Just in case, "here comes that
screaming sound again":
http://moinlabs.de/images/external/Das_gro%C3%9Fe_Bild.jpg

Thanks for taking interest btw, it seems that your facility and my
living room share about 6 devices - can you guess which? ;)

Best,

        Rainer

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> mark francombe wrote:
> Wow.. I didnt even know about it.. or I would have nagged for a =
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> Hmm its a very long drive from Norway, but might be worth the effort  =
just
to see this line-up!!=20
> Its going to be great, Well done Sjaak..

Hi Mark,
Thanks, I'm very with the lineup too. Where do you live in Norway?=20
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Hi,
I'm trying to setup a momentary patch with a random CC value to control the
speed parameter. Anyone tried this?
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I hear all of the things you are disappointed in about the evolution of 
Drum and Bass,  Matt.

I agree with you mostly about it all.    

I don't, however, want to throw the baby out with the bath water on this 
particular movement.

I, personally, was attracted to the more abstract expressions of that 
movement and not the
commercial side of that

One of the reasons the commercial development occurred the way it did 
was because the only way to sell
records was to cater to the club scene.

Club scenes invariably are conservative , rhythmically,  just because it 
takes minimalistic rhythms to
make most people dance (we're excluding obvious examples like West 
African and Caribbean folkloric traditions,
of course).

So D&B dumbed down just because it was the only thing that sold to the 
masses of club goers.
It's true of any genre.  

Even disco was very interesting when it first began with it's infusions 
of surreal studio techniques,  adding latin
rhythms to funk bass lines;    it's birthing of the whole remix 
genre.    It just took a few years to get stale.

There are, however, artists at the fringes of all musical styles who did 
and continue to do interesting things.

Did you ever, per chance,  hear the series of CDs called 
Avantgardism?     There were some very hip
D&B tracks on that.   There was one I loved that used a Glen Velez Tar 
solo as the source for the rhythms
that got sliced and diced.

Also,  remember that D&B led directly to the glitch and slice and dice 
movements where a ton of very interesting music came from.

We also have to thank D&B  for singularly causing the rise of subsonic 
bass sounds in modern popular music
(both a boon and a disaster in my mind).    By raising the tempos of the 
breaks,  the kick drum no longer masked
the bass sound and allowed for huge bass sounds (which now dominate 
modern concerts).

D&B innovated that trend (again, for good and for bad----I love subsonic 
sounds....I personally hate how they have infused
all club mixes and big bin concerts.

and one last thing.....................We probably would not have had 
the innovations of the hip hop producer Timbaland if it hadn't been
for D&B.     Say what you will,   Timbaland liberated the role of rhythm 
in modern popular music as much as any single person
in the history of pop.    I've always wanted to do a historical graph 
that shows when certain syncopated rhythms entered western pop
music............................in terms of syncopative diversity (and 
remember this is a guy who is using 32nd note syncopations over
8th note syncopations in his grooves)  the world got technocolor in main 
stream hip hop after Timbaland.   Undoubtedly , he
was listening to the slicing and dicing techniques of D&B

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Per,
I tested out Midipipe. In combination with Bidule, Midipipe filters =
works
fine, but it doesn't work with Mainstage. But I have a "hardware" =
workaround
now: I have 2 midi out's on my MFC with a midi filter..that does the =
trick
now. Thanks for your support!

---=20
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> Raul Bonell wrote:
> the website looks gorgeous! hope you have a great night of live 
> loopery.

Hi Raul,
We are going to make live recordings, both video and audio so all of you on
the list can enjoy the festival too. I'm thinking of offering a live stream
too but I've to check out if the venue has a fast DSL connection. 

In the meantime: enjoy the "festival Anthem", it a live improv I did today
and it's on the home page http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp
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> I'm trying to setup a momentary patch with a random CC value 
> to control the speed parameter. Anyone tried this?

I forgot to tell it's for controlling the LP1 ;)
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Really interesting post... I had a question about one part of this (in  
particular the word "then"):

 > use Looper as a silent dummy
 > in order to secure a stable tempo pick-up, and then  duplicate the  
same
 > external MIDI events used for Looper to target also a good third- 
party
 > looping plug-in as Mobius

What might that look like---having not used either yet. A brief step- 
by-step  example of your specific midi set up and work-flow when  
starting a song--even just a small part of it--might illustrate.

In terms of work flow, does this mean a guitarist (just as an example)  
would strum 4 bars, Ableton's Looper would   start but ---- here's  
where I get fuzzy... do both loopers start but Ableton's is just  
silent or muted or just feeding Mobius and thereafter looping is done  
with Mobius or does the guitarist have to "switch over" to Mobius and  
repeat the starting phrase?

Generally speaking would this Live 8 / Mobius solution be the closest  
thing possible (so far) to the EDP way of working but with the  
advantages of Ableton and tempo pick-up?

THANK YOU!


On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:10 AM, rick miller wrote:

> use Looper as a silent dummy
> in order to secure a stable tempo pick-up, and then duplicate the same
> external MIDI events used for Looper to target also a good third-party
> looping plug-in as Mobius


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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I had a question about one part of this (in particular the word =
"then"):&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>&gt; use Looper as a silent =
dummy<br>&gt; in order to secure a stable tempo pick-up, and <b><i><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;">then =
</span>&nbsp;</i>duplicate the same<br>&gt; external MIDI events used =
for Looper to target also a good third-party<br>&gt; looping plug-in as =
Mobius</b><div><br></div><div>What might that look like---having not =
used either yet. A brief step-by-step &nbsp;example of your specific =
midi set up and work-flow when starting a song--even just a small part =
of it--might illustrate.</div><div><br></div><div>In terms of work flow, =
does this mean a guitarist (just as an example) would strum 4 bars, =
Ableton's Looper would &nbsp; start but ---- here's where I get fuzzy... =
do both loopers start but Ableton's is just silent or muted or just =
feeding Mobius and thereafter looping is done with Mobius or does the =
guitarist have to "switch over" to Mobius and repeat the starting =
phrase?</div><div><br></div><div><div>Generally speaking would this Live =
8 / Mobius solution be the closest thing possible (so far) to the EDP =
way of working but with the advantages of Ableton and tempo =
pick-up?</div><div><br></div><div>THANK =
YOU!</div><div><br></div></div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 3, 2009, at =
9:10 AM, rick miller wrote:</div><br =
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the same<br>external MIDI events used for Looper to target also a good =
third-party<br>looping plug-in as =
Mobius</span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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 > being too busy rehearsing live looping with another software setup.

Just wondering what that would be and why you chose it... if your too  
busy to reply, I understand. Thank you for all your time already!

On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Sylvain Poitras
> <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can you have more than one looper running?
>
> Of course, any plug-in can be opened in an infinite number of
> instances! And with that I'm done with Live 8 for a while, being too
> busy rehearsing live looping with another software setup.
>
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2009/4/4 fabio@nile <eterogenus@gmail.com>

> I hope the website will be on line in a few days..,stay tuned....
>
> Fabio
>

Please send us a message as soon as the website for Roma in up.
... fellow citizen want to know...

Ciao
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hi Sjaak,
best place to ask that is on the Gordius yahoo group,
where you'll find "the guy who asked for the feature",
and "the guy who made it happen".

Anyway, just scroll down the list of values for "Data" till you get to "random"
and use that instead of one of the regular values.

If you need to do a corresponding Note-Off to a random Note-On there's the
"last.random" value, which repeats....... well I think you guessed.

Then to set the range of the randomly generated values, which by default
are 0..127 we get 2 Message Types to use in a string of commands.
These are Gordius specific messages that are programmed just like 
a midi-message but don't get sent out the midi port, they just 
alter stuff internally within the LG.

they're called
Random.From  (lower limit)
Random.Till   (upper limit)


andy butler




Sjaak wrote:
>> I'm trying to setup a momentary patch with a random CC value 
>> to control the speed parameter. Anyone tried this?
> 
> I forgot to tell it's for controlling the LP1 ;)
> --- 
> Sjaak
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ 
> http://euroloopfest.com/ 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:07 AM, David Hayes <stringfling@gmail.com> wrote:
>> use Looper as a silent dummy
>> in order to secure a stable tempo pick-up, and then =A0duplicate the sam=
e
>> external MIDI events used for Looper to target also a good third-party
>> looping plug-in as Mobius

> Generally speaking would this Live 8 / Mobius solution be the closest thi=
ng
> possible (so far) to the EDP way of working but with the advantages of
> Ableton and tempo pick-up?

Maybe. That depends on which of the EDP functions you regard most
being "the EDP way of looping". One point in my testing was to see if
Live 8 works well when following the tempo set by the first loop you
create - as opposed to another way of looping where you have a "click
track" of a (host) tempo that the looper (and you) has to follow.

What I found yesterday night, when doing a quick check again, was that
Live 8 does indeed follow MIDI Clock well. So the workaround with a
dummy Live Looper to set the tempo for Live is not necessary. I simply
skipped over using Live's Looper and used Mobius VST instead and set
Mobius to send out MIDI Clock into OS X IAC bus, which I set Live to
use as "sync input". With earlier versions of Live I've had problems
with this (on both Windows and Mac) but yesterday it seemed to sync
well. I inserted tremolo effects set to sharp square waves onsome
Mobius tracks and the music and tremolo effect seemed to go along
well.

Another really nice thing with Mobius VST in Live is that you can
bring out all Mobius tracks over separate Live mixer channels and
treat them properly for the best sound (in my case that means adding
plug-ins for Low Cut and Compression to each channel, since I do a lot
of Rate Shift wobbling in Mobius that may sometimes result in bass
frequencies too low for the system to handle). So you get a really
good sound when filling up many Mobius tracks with parallel loops.

>> being too busy rehearsing live looping with another software setup.

> Just wondering what that would be and why you chose it...

Mainstage hosting Mobius AU. I chose it for three reasons:

1) I like the sound of the audio effect plug-ins.
2) It lets me keep at least 128 instantly available effect patches to
play through, and those not in use do not tax the CPU at all.
3) I like the huge palette of great sounding virtual MIDI instruments.

In fact, before Apple released Mainstage I had built me a looping rig
of Plogue Bidule hosting Mobius that was precisely what Mainstage
appeared to be. So it was a no-brainer to leave Bidule for Mainstage
and start making music right away, as opposed to having to do a lot of
programming of your tools to set them up.

Per

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Any one here on PC having tested the free host KRISTAL for a looper plug-in?
http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/index.php?section=details

It has a specific "KRISTAL Live In" functionality that seems suitable.
Couldn't find any info online telling if KRISTAL can sync slave,
specifically to a MIDI Clock sent out from a looping plug-in (given
you have the MIDI Yoke loopback thingy installed under Windows).

I came to check it out this morning because it was created as a side
project by one of the guys behind the creation of the new DAW Presonus
Studio One.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
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Hey,
line-up looks great. Hope I can make it to Antwerp.
christo
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www.myspace.com/christojota


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  I hope the website will be on line in a few days..,stay tuned....


  Fabio



  Il giorno 04/apr/09, alle ore 01:14, Raul Bonell =
<raul.bonell@gmail.com> ha scritto:


    the website looks gorgeous!
    hope you have a great night
    of live loopery.

    any info or website for the rome
    gig, fabio?



    2009/4/3 Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>

      > By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe
      > this year? Does anyone know ?

      Hi,
      Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping =
Festival '09:
      * May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium
      * June 6 - Rome, Ialy

      Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding =
artists, tickets etc can be found on the website =
http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp or if you have any questions, please let =
me know.
      ---
      Sjaak
      http://euroloopfest.com/
      http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
      http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw


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Thank you so much for your time. The main thing I was looking for was  
a way to Loop with Stylus RMX as the basic drum part, taking the drum  
parts in and out with my footswitch and always being in time. All with  
the same basic work flow as an EDP. Ability to set loop tempo with  
first phrase would be a nice extra but not so important.

I have Mainstage, I just haven't checked it out yet and I see Mobius  
is free and runs on the Mac (beta, but still) so I'm absolutely going  
to experiment with these various combinations.

THANK YOU.

I tell you this... I've been on the hunt for the perfect set up for a  
very long time and feel I am finally close... when I get it, I will  
post it in great detail in hopes it helps others.


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On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, David Hayes <stringfling@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you so much for your time. The main thing I was looking for was a way
> to Loop with Stylus RMX as the basic drum part, taking the drum parts in and
> out with my footswitch and always being in time. All with the same basic
> work flow as an EDP. Ability to set loop tempo with first phrase would be a
> nice extra but not so important.

Ah... now we're talking! RMX is awesome, but I would guess that any
host slaving to MIDI Clock is not rhythmically stable enough for RMX
(please note this is a guess - if you are interested you should really
try it out to see if it works). RMX has always been stable for me when
the host is the sync master.

Slave syncing Loopers: I've been jamming with other musicians when we
were all using EDP's and the only down side is that you may have to
wait for the on-beat when laying down your first loop (I sometimes
created a silent first loop, in the Brother Sync network, and then
filled it up with my playing, just to avoid bumps). It's just that for
the solo concerts I do it makes for a way better performance if never
having to watch the scrreen or wait for a cue... just get up there and
start playing, sort of. And I never use "drums" live if there is not a
drummer (laptopper or skin basher) on stage to play with me ;-))
(but I really love RMX for studio work!!!! Especially 1.7 for odd
measures)

About MIDI Clock: After all it is a subversive catch-up game. The sync
slave never really realizes that it is too fast or too slow until it
has already crossed the line and has to start adjusting to compensate
for its mistake. And then it makes the same mistake from the other
direction... and vice versa... for eternity. TAlk about a "miserable
loop"! Good thing machines and software don't have feelings - they
would instantly implode into depression  ;-)

I use the host application for synced delays, reverb, synced tremolo
or filter sweeps. For effect add-ons like those I the rubber band
timing of a MIDI Clock sync is good enough. But for hard on-the-beat
sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting in Mobius. The reason
is that this will then be done in a rock solid timing

Per

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 > for hard on-the-beat sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting  
in Mobius.

Hm. Scripting in Mobius... sounds complicated but what isn't? I feel  
there's got to be a great solution in here for me (finally). The  
second I opened up Mobius (just now) and saw those familiar EDP  
functions I knew it was a missing piece of the puzzle..

Between Mobius, Ableton Live 8, and Mainstage for software with a  
Rocktron Midi Mate foot pedal  for starting and stopping RMX parts  
individually as well as the EDP-like Mobius functions, a GCP for Live  
clip/sceen functions (now that there's a Bome's midi translator for  
mac), the x-tempo POK for various things like arrows, copy/paste, and  
duplicate functions where it makes sense (so I don't have to bank up  
and down all the time)---I think I'll finally be able to really nail  
my system down:

--- Stylus RMX (along with others, but RMX as the base) for drums with  
independent parts stopped and started via feet. (I think RMX is  
acceptable live if it's played like an instrument w/ the feet.)
--- Trilogy (and logic sound modules if using Mainstage) via EWI or  
Midi Guitar for bass (or a real bass ) layered over the drums
--- Then guitar, vocals, sax, or midi sounds from NI Kore, Motu's  
Symphonic or Ethno instruments (among others) layered over the bass  
and drums.
--- And, Livid Union with the Ohm controller and x-tempo POK (and  
sometimes EWI and Midi Guitar) for live video trigger/manipulation.

Missing components were getting Stylus RMX to be foot controlled,  
Bome's Midi Translator for mac and the x-tempo-POK to ease foot  
control set up, and Mobius/Live8 for true software looping  
functionality. All coming together now... it has to be.

I think we're a few months away from a demo of some sort, people!...  
once I get everything playing well together.

(I'm excited so I thought I'd share.) When I truly figure out the best  
set up and work flow (hardware, software, and musically speaking)  I  
will pass it on in full detail.




On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, David Hayes <stringfling@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Thank you so much for your time. The main thing I was looking for  
>> was a way
>> to Loop with Stylus RMX as the basic drum part, taking the drum  
>> parts in and
>> out with my footswitch and always being in time. All with the same  
>> basic
>> work flow as an EDP. Ability to set loop tempo with first phrase  
>> would be a
>> nice extra but not so important.
>
> Ah... now we're talking! RMX is awesome, but I would guess that any
> host slaving to MIDI Clock is not rhythmically stable enough for RMX
> (please note this is a guess - if you are interested you should really
> try it out to see if it works). RMX has always been stable for me when
> the host is the sync master.
>
> Slave syncing Loopers: I've been jamming with other musicians when we
> were all using EDP's and the only down side is that you may have to
> wait for the on-beat when laying down your first loop (I sometimes
> created a silent first loop, in the Brother Sync network, and then
> filled it up with my playing, just to avoid bumps). It's just that for
> the solo concerts I do it makes for a way better performance if never
> having to watch the scrreen or wait for a cue... just get up there and
> start playing, sort of. And I never use "drums" live if there is not a
> drummer (laptopper or skin basher) on stage to play with me ;-))
> (but I really love RMX for studio work!!!! Especially 1.7 for odd
> measures)
>
> About MIDI Clock: After all it is a subversive catch-up game. The sync
> slave never really realizes that it is too fast or too slow until it
> has already crossed the line and has to start adjusting to compensate
> for its mistake. And then it makes the same mistake from the other
> direction... and vice versa... for eternity. TAlk about a "miserable
> loop"! Good thing machines and software don't have feelings - they
> would instantly implode into depression  ;-)
>
> I use the host application for synced delays, reverb, synced tremolo
> or filter sweeps. For effect add-ons like those I the rubber band
> timing of a MIDI Clock sync is good enough. But for hard on-the-beat
> sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting in Mobius. The reason
> is that this will then be done in a rock solid timing
>
> Per
>

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Per Boysen wrote:
> Slave syncing Loopers: I've been jamming with other musicians when we
> were all using EDP's and the only down side is that you may have to
> wait for the on-beat when laying down your first loop 

well, here's some good news.

You don't have to wait for the on-beat when recording with a synced EDP.
You just have to wait for the EDP to gain sync, then you can start
recording at any point.
Looperlative does the same trick afaik.
Surely Mobius too??

> 
> About MIDI Clock: After all it is a subversive catch-up game. The sync
> slave never really realizes that it is too fast or too slow until it
> has already crossed the line and has to start adjusting to compensate
> for its mistake. And then it makes the same mistake from the other
> direction... and vice versa... for eternity. 

more (theoretical) good news.

If you're slaving a drum machine to midi clock, all it has to do
is count the incoming midi clocks and step through it's sequence.
Then it can trigger it's sounds.
No catch up, no guessing the tempo (don't even need to calculate it).
Don't know if Stylus RMX knows that, but it *is* possible.
(groove quantise, of course, would be compromised in that scenario)

andy

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i had a dream one night of the perfect software looper that allowed me to d=
o practically anything i wanted-
then i found out it wasnt a dream....
it existed.....  it was called mobius.... and it was FREE

i then sold 4 electrix repeaters=2C 1 LP1 and bought a laptop and RME inter=
face..... booya for scripting

fro

> From: stringfling@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Mobius=2C Stylus RMX=2C other choices.  WAS: Early bird loop=
ers with Live?=20
> Date: Mon=2C 6 Apr 2009 04:20:30 -0700
>=20
>  > for hard on-the-beat sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting =20
> in Mobius.
>=20
> Hm. Scripting in Mobius... sounds complicated but what isn't? I feel =20
> there's got to be a great solution in here for me (finally). The =20
> second I opened up Mobius (just now) and saw those familiar EDP =20
> functions I knew it was a missing piece of the puzzle..
>=20
> Between Mobius=2C Ableton Live 8=2C and Mainstage for software with a =20
> Rocktron Midi Mate foot pedal  for starting and stopping RMX parts =20
> individually as well as the EDP-like Mobius functions=2C a GCP for Live =
=20
> clip/sceen functions (now that there's a Bome's midi translator for =20
> mac)=2C the x-tempo POK for various things like arrows=2C copy/paste=2C a=
nd =20
> duplicate functions where it makes sense (so I don't have to bank up =20
> and down all the time)---I think I'll finally be able to really nail =20
> my system down:
>=20
> --- Stylus RMX (along with others=2C but RMX as the base) for drums with =
=20
> independent parts stopped and started via feet. (I think RMX is =20
> acceptable live if it's played like an instrument w/ the feet.)
> --- Trilogy (and logic sound modules if using Mainstage) via EWI or =20
> Midi Guitar for bass (or a real bass ) layered over the drums
> --- Then guitar=2C vocals=2C sax=2C or midi sounds from NI Kore=2C Motu's=
 =20
> Symphonic or Ethno instruments (among others) layered over the bass =20
> and drums.
> --- And=2C Livid Union with the Ohm controller and x-tempo POK (and =20
> sometimes EWI and Midi Guitar) for live video trigger/manipulation.
>=20
> Missing components were getting Stylus RMX to be foot controlled=2C =20
> Bome's Midi Translator for mac and the x-tempo-POK to ease foot =20
> control set up=2C and Mobius/Live8 for true software looping =20
> functionality. All coming together now... it has to be.
>=20
> I think we're a few months away from a demo of some sort=2C people!... =20
> once I get everything playing well together.
>=20
> (I'm excited so I thought I'd share.) When I truly figure out the best =20
> set up and work flow (hardware=2C software=2C and musically speaking)  I =
=20
> will pass it on in full detail.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Apr 6=2C 2009=2C at 3:27 AM=2C Per Boysen wrote:
>=20
> > On Mon=2C Apr 6=2C 2009 at 12:01 PM=2C David Hayes <stringfling@gmail.c=
om> =20
> > wrote:
> >> Thank you so much for your time. The main thing I was looking for =20
> >> was a way
> >> to Loop with Stylus RMX as the basic drum part=2C taking the drum =20
> >> parts in and
> >> out with my footswitch and always being in time. All with the same =20
> >> basic
> >> work flow as an EDP. Ability to set loop tempo with first phrase =20
> >> would be a
> >> nice extra but not so important.
> >
> > Ah... now we're talking! RMX is awesome=2C but I would guess that any
> > host slaving to MIDI Clock is not rhythmically stable enough for RMX
> > (please note this is a guess - if you are interested you should really
> > try it out to see if it works). RMX has always been stable for me when
> > the host is the sync master.
> >
> > Slave syncing Loopers: I've been jamming with other musicians when we
> > were all using EDP's and the only down side is that you may have to
> > wait for the on-beat when laying down your first loop (I sometimes
> > created a silent first loop=2C in the Brother Sync network=2C and then
> > filled it up with my playing=2C just to avoid bumps). It's just that fo=
r
> > the solo concerts I do it makes for a way better performance if never
> > having to watch the scrreen or wait for a cue... just get up there and
> > start playing=2C sort of. And I never use "drums" live if there is not =
a
> > drummer (laptopper or skin basher) on stage to play with me =3B-))
> > (but I really love RMX for studio work!!!! Especially 1.7 for odd
> > measures)
> >
> > About MIDI Clock: After all it is a subversive catch-up game. The sync
> > slave never really realizes that it is too fast or too slow until it
> > has already crossed the line and has to start adjusting to compensate
> > for its mistake. And then it makes the same mistake from the other
> > direction... and vice versa... for eternity. TAlk about a "miserable
> > loop"! Good thing machines and software don't have feelings - they
> > would instantly implode into depression  =3B-)
> >
> > I use the host application for synced delays=2C reverb=2C synced tremol=
o
> > or filter sweeps. For effect add-ons like those I the rubber band
> > timing of a MIDI Clock sync is good enough. But for hard on-the-beat
> > sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting in Mobius. The reason
> > is that this will then be done in a rock solid timing
> >
> > Per
> >
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[andy]
> You don't have to wait for the on-beat when recording with a synced EDP.
> You just have to wait for the EDP to gain sync, then you can start
> recording at any point.
> Looperlative does the same trick afaik.
> Surely Mobius too??

I think this is an area where I diverged without knowing it.  When
using the slave sync modes Mobius recording behaves similar to
quantization.  If you have SyncMode=3DHostBar for example, a 4/4
timesig, and you press record at beat 2, it will wait two beats before
starting the recording.  This seemed consistent to me since I almost
always have quantiziation on and I'm accustomed to pressing switches a
little ahead of the beat.  In other words, it's like the "first loop"
is in the drum machine and recording behaves like
NextLoop/SwitchQuant=3DCycle/AutoRecord=3DOn.

If I understand correctly, the EDP does a sort of "round off" at the
end rather than quantizing the beginning.  You start recording
immediately and the ending is delayed to make the loop be an even
multiple of the beat/bar.  I can see this being nice if you want to
start with lead in notes that sustain over the loop start point.  If
that's correct wouldn't the loop technically be out of alignment with
the drum machine?  If you wanted to retrigger from the start you would
have to make another pass and set the loop start point to light up
with the drum machine's downbeat.

I like both, maybe someway they're will be another mode, because there
just aren't enough switches and knobs yet :-)

BTW, this seems like the same philosophical misunderstanding that
makes Mobius' unquantized remultiply suck out loud compared to the
EDP.  I really got unquantized rounding wrong....


Jeff

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> You don't have to wait for the on-beat when recording with a synced EDP.
> You just have to wait for the EDP to gain sync, then you can start
> recording at any point.
> Looperlative does the same trick afaik.

You are correct about the LP1.

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On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:
>> You don't have to wait for the on-beat when recording with a synced EDP.
>> You just have to wait for the EDP to gain sync, then you can start
>> recording at any point.
>> Looperlative does the same trick afaik.
>
> You are correct about the LP1.

Sorry, guys - my bad! I use an inadequate phrasing. I didn't actually
mean "On The Beat" I just meant that you have to wait for the loopers
to hook up to the sync pulse.

The idea was just to give an example how most slave syncing loopers
react as you are about to lay down that precious first loop. Never the
less it is interesting to see how my mistake led to an interesting
discussion! Love this list! ;-9)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/06/free-nodal-generative-sequencer-now-on-windows-too-live-improvisation-video/

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I recall a discussion a few months back where someone was inquiring about an
affordable midi foot controller that was powerful, yet small, For someone
who didn't need several preset switches but just a few to trigger lap top
event streams and perhaps some CC control as well. Did anyone mention this
product at the time?
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ihZ016QQcategoryZ22669QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem, 

 The reason I ask is, I recently bit the bullet and bought a used TC
Fireworx, and rather than try to set up my Gordius LG to control both it and
my looperlative, I've been looking for a small  midi pedal that I can scroll
up and down through a few presets, and plug in a couple of CC pedals to
control specific effects parameters.  I Like the size of this thing, I
believe it has an aluminum chassis so its pretty light as well.  Has anyone
used this?
http://www.rocktron.com/site/products/controllers/midixchange/imagezoom.html


Thanks

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couple of CC pedals to control specific effects parameters. &nbsp;I Like =
the
size of this thing, I believe it has an aluminum chassis so its pretty =
light as
well. &nbsp;Has anyone used this?</span></font> <font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href=3D"http://www.rocktron.com/site/products/controllers/midixchange/ima=
gezoom.html">http://www.rocktron.com/site/products/controllers/midixchang=
e/imagezoom.html</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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> Nodal is now out also for Windows!

And jolly good fun it is too! Looks like this could be a worthy competitor
to Noatikl ...

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Per,<div><br>&gt; Nodal is now out also for Windows!</div><div><br>And jolly good fun it is too! Looks like this could be a worthy competitor to Noatikl ...</div><div><br></div><div>Ian<br><div><br></div></div>

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seems cool Bill but be careful, it requires a 5-7 pin midi cable, that ONLY=
 Rocktron makes!
cheers
Luis

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> From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
> Subject: Small midi foot controllers redux
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 11:58 AM
>=20
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> =20
> =20
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> I recall a
> discussion a few months back where someone was
> inquiring about an affordable midi foot controller that was
> powerful, yet small,
> For someone who didn=E2=80=99t need several preset switches
> but just a few to
> trigger lap top event streams and perhaps some CC control
> as well. Did anyone mention
> this product at the time? http://cgi.ebay.com/Rocktron-MIDI-Xchange-Midi-=
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> =C2=A0The reason
> I ask is, I recently bit the bullet and
> bought a used TC Fireworx, and rather than try to set up my
> Gordius LG to
> control both it and my looperlative, I=E2=80=99ve been
> looking for a small=C2=A0
> midi pedal that I can scroll up and down through a few
> presets, and plug in a
> couple of CC pedals to control specific effects parameters.
> =C2=A0I Like the
> size of this thing, I believe it has an aluminum chassis so
> its pretty light as
> well. =C2=A0Has anyone used this? http://www.rocktron.com/site/products/c=
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In order to install it in Vista you must run as Administrator or else it 
locks up.

Plish

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> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/06/free-nodal-generative-sequencer-now-on-windows-too-live-improvisation-video/
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Hey David,

Holy s*...Stylux RMX, Trilogy, Kore, Livid Union, guitar, EWI, vocals,
sax...you're sure you don't want to add PD and Reaktor? ;)

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I have a question that was spurned by Bill's note about the midi remote
pedal.  I have a mid-80's Charvel Jackson guitar midi controller which has a
3 pedal foot pedal.  Is all the intelligence that the pedal executes coming
from however midi is configured in the apparatus it's connected to which is
my assumption?  With midi as I'm out of touch and never got into it beyond
plugging things in and getting results, are there standard instructions
already defaulting the midi channels how to respond to pedal devices?

My interest is to try and control my EHX 2880 through a midi pedal such as
the one I have and avoid buying the dedicated one from EHX though I'm
possibly being 'pennywisepoundfoolish' in doing...

thoughts? thx

jim



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<div>I have a question that was spurned by Bill&#39;s note about the midi r=
emote pedal.=A0 I have a mid-80&#39;s Charvel Jackson guitar midi controlle=
r which has a 3 pedal foot pedal.=A0 Is all the intelligence that the pedal=
 executes coming from however midi is configured in the apparatus it&#39;s =
connected to which is my assumption?=A0 With midi as I&#39;m out of touch a=
nd never got into it beyond plugging things in and getting results, are the=
re standard instructions already defaulting the midi channels how to respon=
d to pedal devices?</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>My interest is to try and control my EHX 2880 through a midi pedal suc=
h as the one I have and avoid buying the dedicated one=A0from EHX though I&=
#39;m possibly being &#39;pennywisepoundfoolish&#39; in doing...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>thoughts? thx</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>jim<br><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>music links...<br><a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http=
://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D=
"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><=
br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/china=
paintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelect=
ro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/j=
imgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networkin=
g...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodin=
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that sound like something ive been wanting to do for a long time yet there =
is something missing...
yes David let us know it sounds really exciting!!
cheers
Luis
>=20
> Hm. Scripting in Mobius... sounds complicated but what
> isn't? I feel there's got to be a great solution in here for
> me (finally). The second I opened up Mobius (just now) and
> saw those familiar EDP functions I knew it was a missing
> piece of the puzzle..
>=20
> Between Mobius, Ableton Live 8, and Mainstage for software
> with a Rocktron Midi Mate foot pedal=A0 for starting and
> stopping RMX parts individually as well as the EDP-like
> Mobius functions, a GCP for Live clip/sceen functions (now
> that there's a Bome's midi translator for mac), the x-tempo
> POK for various things like arrows, copy/paste, and
> duplicate functions where it makes sense (so I don't have to
> bank up and down all the time)---I think I'll finally be
> able to really nail my system down:
>=20
> --- Stylus RMX (along with others, but RMX as the base) for
> drums with independent parts stopped and started via feet.
> (I think RMX is acceptable live if it's played like an
> instrument w/ the feet.)
> --- Trilogy (and logic sound modules if using Mainstage)
> via EWI or Midi Guitar for bass (or a real bass ) layered
> over the drums
> --- Then guitar, vocals, sax, or midi sounds from NI Kore,
> Motu's Symphonic or Ethno instruments (among others) layered
> over the bass and drums.
> --- And, Livid Union with the Ohm controller and x-tempo
> POK (and sometimes EWI and Midi Guitar) for live video
> trigger/manipulation.
>=20
> Missing components were getting Stylus RMX to be foot
> controlled, Bome's Midi Translator for mac and the
> x-tempo-POK to ease foot control set up, and Mobius/Live8
> for true software looping functionality. All coming together
> now... it has to be.
>=20
> I think we're a few months away from a demo of some sort,
> people!... once I get everything playing well together.
>=20
> (I'm excited so I thought I'd share.) When I truly figure
> out the best set up and work flow (hardware, software, and
> musically speaking)=A0 I will pass it on in full detail.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
>=20
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, David Hayes <stringfling@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Thank you so much for your time. The main thing I
> was looking for was a way
> >> to Loop with Stylus RMX as the basic drum part,
> taking the drum parts in and
> >> out with my footswitch and always being in time.
> All with the same basic
> >> work flow as an EDP. Ability to set loop tempo
> with first phrase would be a
> >> nice extra but not so important.
> >=20
> > Ah... now we're talking! RMX is awesome, but I would
> guess that any
> > host slaving to MIDI Clock is not rhythmically stable
> enough for RMX
> > (please note this is a guess - if you are interested
> you should really
> > try it out to see if it works). RMX has always been
> stable for me when
> > the host is the sync master.
> >=20
> > Slave syncing Loopers: I've been jamming with other
> musicians when we
> > were all using EDP's and the only down side is that
> you may have to
> > wait for the on-beat when laying down your first loop
> (I sometimes
> > created a silent first loop, in the Brother Sync
> network, and then
> > filled it up with my playing, just to avoid bumps).
> It's just that for
> > the solo concerts I do it makes for a way better
> performance if never
> > having to watch the scrreen or wait for a cue... just
> get up there and
> > start playing, sort of. And I never use "drums" live
> if there is not a
> > drummer (laptopper or skin basher) on stage to play
> with me ;-))
> > (but I really love RMX for studio work!!!! Especially
> 1.7 for odd
> > measures)
> >=20
> > About MIDI Clock: After all it is a subversive
> catch-up game. The sync
> > slave never really realizes that it is too fast or too
> slow until it
> > has already crossed the line and has to start
> adjusting to compensate
> > for its mistake. And then it makes the same mistake
> from the other
> > direction... and vice versa... for eternity. TAlk
> about a "miserable
> > loop"! Good thing machines and software don't have
> feelings - they
> > would instantly implode into depression=A0 ;-)
> >=20
> > I use the host application for synced delays, reverb,
> synced tremolo
> > or filter sweeps. For effect add-ons like those I the
> rubber band
> > timing of a MIDI Clock sync is good enough. But for
> hard on-the-beat
> > sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting in
> Mobius. The reason
> > is that this will then be done in a rock solid timing
> >=20
> > Per
> >=20
>=20
> =0A=0A=0A      

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Anyone can solder two DIN thingies to a length of cable; many of our 
[adadepot.com] users do it for running phantom power via the MIDI cable 
to a floor controller.

http://www.adadepot.com/forum/index.php/topic,10849.0.html

/van


L.Angulo wrote:
> seems cool Bill but be careful, it requires a 5-7 pin midi cable, that ONLY Rocktron makes!
> cheers
> Luis
> 
>  
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
>>Subject: Small midi foot controllers redux
>>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 11:58 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>I recall a
>>discussion a few months back where someone was
>>inquiring about an affordable midi foot controller that was
>>powerful, yet small,
>>For someone who didnâ€™t need several preset switches
>>but just a few to
>>trigger lap top event streams and perhaps some CC control
>>as well. Did anyone mention
>>this product at the time? http://cgi.ebay.com/Rocktron-MIDI-Xchange-Midi-Pedal_W0QQitemZ260304345596QQihZ016QQcategoryZ22669QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem,
>> 
>>
>> The reason
>>I ask is, I recently bit the bullet and
>>bought a used TC Fireworx, and rather than try to set up my
>>Gordius LG to
>>control both it and my looperlative, Iâ€™ve been
>>looking for a small 
>>midi pedal that I can scroll up and down through a few
>>presets, and plug in a
>>couple of CC pedals to control specific effects parameters.
>> I Like the
>>size of this thing, I believe it has an aluminum chassis so
>>its pretty light as
>>well.  Has anyone used this? http://www.rocktron.com/site/products/controllers/midixchange/imagezoom.html
>> 
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> 
> .
> 


-- 
rgds,
van Sinn

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Hi Per,
but in order to have mainstage you are required to have Logic installed,correct?

> In fact, before Apple released Mainstage I had built me a
> looping rig
> of Plogue Bidule hosting Mobius that was precisely what
> Mainstage
> appeared to be. So it was a no-brainer to leave Bidule for
> Mainstage
> and start making music right away, as opposed to having to
> do a lot of
> programming of your tools to set them up.
> 
> Per
> 
> 


      

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Wow, Rainer what a dream setup you have!
cheers
Luis


>=20
> Hey Richard,
>=20
> did Kevin's suggestion work for you? Just in case, "here
> comes that
> screaming sound again":
> http://moinlabs.de/images/external/Das_gro%C3%9Fe_Bild.jpg
>=20
> Thanks for taking interest btw, it seems that your facility
> and my
> living room share about 6 devices - can you guess which?
> ;)
>=20
> Best,
>=20
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer
>=20
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Rainer,

I might say...holy s*... [insert comprehensive list of Rainer's 
mindblowing studio gear; six keyboards, samplers, MIDI percussion, 
basses, guitars, computers, trombone, four-foot rack]...you're sure you 
don't want to add an octave of timpani?

I jest, but of course your massive setup just reinforces my love of your 
'bone/voice album!

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> Hey David,
>
> Holy s*...Stylux RMX, Trilogy, Kore, Livid Union, guitar, EWI, vocals,
> sax...you're sure you don't want to add PD and Reaktor? ;)

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He Rainer,
question:
I see a lot of you guys using the Behringer BCR usb controllers in conjunct=
ion with Mobius,since i am new to software looping what do you use it mostl=
y for or what cool things can you do with it that you cannot otherwise do w=
ith a MFC?
then there is the bcr and bcf 2000 it seems you have both?



> Thanks for taking interest btw, it seems that your facility
> and my
> living room share about 6 devices - can you guess which?
> ;)
>=20
> Best,
>=20
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer
>=20
> =0A=0A=0A      

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Mainstage is one of the applications that come with the Logic Studio
package. Others are Logic, Waveburner (Redbook CD mastering), Apple
Loop Utility (creating Apple Loops with correct tags for instrument,
mood, tempo, key etc), QuickTime Pro and Compressor. Maybe Compressor
has a new name now, I haven't checked lately... it's a converter
between different file format compressions used in multimedia by
musicians.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



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> Hi Per,
> but in order to have mainstage you are required to have Logic installed,correct?

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heres a better one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DitsT9zgWRoM

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Sat, 4/4/09, Bruce Gilman <cuica@interworld.net> wrote:

> From: Bruce Gilman <cuica@interworld.net>
> Subject: Out of the Loop/songsmith
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 6:11 AM
> Hello All,
> I've been out of the "loop" for
> some time, but some time back one that was loads of fun
> dealt with songsmith.
> A musician friend of mine (Karnak, Pato Fu) in
> Brazil sent me this link. =A0
> You may have seen it already, if so my most
> humble apologies. =A0
> Otherwise, enjoy:=A0
>=20
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVFZvLprEIpw
> =0A=0A=0A      

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tragic earthquake today on NPR (national public radio) and thought  
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I hope this email finds you well!

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Luis,

> I see a lot of you guys using the Behringer BCR usb controllers in conjunction with Mobius,since i am new to software looping what do you use it mostly for or what cool things can you do with it that you
> cannot otherwise do with a MFC?

quick answer: have a total of 20 pushbuttons and 32 continuous
controllers (four of them with push functionality) available at once.
The reason I got the BCR2000 in the first place was to be able to
control lots of parameters. Like all of the parameters of my Live
setup, plus all of the plugins' parameters...you get the picture. More
specifically with Mobius, I control all those transport functions with
the MFC, while I use the BCR more as a software mixing console for
Mobius, using one row of knobs (you see it has eight columns of knobs,
so this fits) for track volume, the next one for (primary and
secondary) feedback, then to top it off with track pan - and use the
two rows of buttons for track select/mute respectively.

In my old Live setup, I used a total of seventeen "pages" (of 108
controls each) for a total of about 1800 controller assignments - the
trombone-based one had considerably less with about 1300 (which is
still way too much to do it intuitively - but it concentrates
everything of importance on like four "pages", so it's possible to
keep track of it in your mind).

> then there is the bcr and bcf 2000 it seems you have both?
The BCF2000 (which has motorized faders and knobs, instead of the
myriad of knobs) is used in one of its emulation modes as a
fake-MackieControl with my recording setup - which works surprisingly
well in a two-monitor setup together with the software
onscreen-emulation of the MackieControl's display.

              Rainer

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Ditto. I hope everyone is okay.

A student of mine is studying abroad in Rome. She's okay...very glad  
to hear it. In fact, she told me she slept through it, although most  
of her classmates certainly did not.

Jeff

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 I don't know what you read, but the manual does not  say anything about
that, download the manual, Are you reading the E-bay copy? Yes Rocktron
makes a 7 pin cable for phantom powering but the manual states that any =
midi
cable can work. They of course would prefer you buy there cables. Come =
on
Luis think about it, No company in their right mind would make a midi
controller product, advertise it as such, and then make the customer buy
their proprietary cable. Go to the web site, perhaps I shouldn't have =
sent
along the E-Bay url but that=92s the first thing that made me aware of =
this
product.
 Bill =20

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seems cool Bill but be careful, it requires a 5-7 pin midi cable, that =
ONLY
Rocktron makes!
cheers
Luis

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> Subject: Small midi foot controllers redux
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 11:58 AM
>=20
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> I recall a
> discussion a few months back where someone was
> inquiring about an affordable midi foot controller that was
> powerful, yet small,
> For someone who didn=92t need several preset switches
> but just a few to
> trigger lap top event streams and perhaps some CC control
> as well. Did anyone mention
> this product at the time?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rocktron-MIDI-Xchange-Midi-Pedal_W0QQitemZ26030434559=
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ihZ016QQcategoryZ22669QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem,
> =20
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> =A0The reason
> I ask is, I recently bit the bullet and
> bought a used TC Fireworx, and rather than try to set up my
> Gordius LG to
> control both it and my looperlative, I=92ve been
> looking for a small=A0
> midi pedal that I can scroll up and down through a few
> presets, and plug in a
> couple of CC pedals to control specific effects parameters.
> =A0I Like the
> size of this thing, I believe it has an aluminum chassis so
> its pretty light as
> well. =A0Has anyone used this?
http://www.rocktron.com/site/products/controllers/midixchange/imagezoom.h=
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Rainer Straschill wrote:
> Hey David,
>
> Holy s*...Stylux RMX, Trilogy, Kore, Livid Union, guitar, EWI, vocals,
> sax...you're sure you don't want to add PD and Reaktor? ;)
>


What's "PD?"  I have Reaktor, it's just that I'm a shitty drummer. I  
can add stuff when needed but I lay down the base beat and be happy  
with it unless it's one of, like, 2 or 3 variations on this one  
particular beat. Otherwise, I'd have stuck with my Handsonic and never  
changed. Hence the need for RMX... hence the need for software looping  
because once the complexity of software and a laptop is introduced,  
the simplicity of all hardware is lost and you may as well enter the  
gates of hell and suffer there until you get to the other side--- 
simplicity through complexity---and I think I see the light at the end  
of the tunnel.

 > perboysen@gmail.com wrote:
 > Maybe Compressor
 > has a new name now,

So, still Compressor. Also comes with Soundtrack Pro.

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ok my bad i havent read the manual
But yes there are companies that require to use their own cable only
Trance Audio being one of them!

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> From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
> Subject: RE: Small midi foot controllers redux
> To: "'L.Angulo'" <labaloops@yahoo.com>, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c=
om
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 4:41 PM
>=C2=A0 I don't know what you read, but the
> manual does not=C2=A0 say anything about
> that, download the manual, Are you reading the E-bay copy?
> Yes Rocktron
> makes a 7 pin cable for phantom powering but the manual
> states that any midi
> cable can work. They of course would prefer you buy there
> cables. Come on
> Luis think about it, No company in their right mind would
> make a midi
> controller product, advertise it as such, and then make the
> customer buy
> their proprietary cable. Go to the web site, perhaps I
> shouldn't have sent
> along the E-Bay url but that=E2=80=99s the first thing that made
> me aware of this
> product.
>=C2=A0 Bill=C2=A0=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]
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> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Small midi foot controllers redux
>=20
> seems cool Bill but be careful, it requires a 5-7 pin midi
> cable, that ONLY
> Rocktron makes!
> cheers
> Luis
>=20
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> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>=20
>=20
> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
> wrote:
>=20
> > From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
> > Subject: Small midi foot controllers redux
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 11:58 AM
> >=20
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> > I recall a
> > discussion a few months back where someone was
> > inquiring about an affordable midi foot controller
> that was
> > powerful, yet small,
> > For someone who didn=E2=80=99t need several preset switches
> > but just a few to
> > trigger lap top event streams and perhaps some CC
> control
> > as well. Did anyone mention
> > this product at the time?
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Rocktron-MIDI-Xchange-Midi-Pedal_W0QQitemZ26030434559=
6QQ
> ihZ016QQcategoryZ22669QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem,
> >=C2=A0=20
> >=20
> > =C2=A0The reason
> > I ask is, I recently bit the bullet and
> > bought a used TC Fireworx, and rather than try to set
> up my
> > Gordius LG to
> > control both it and my looperlative, I=E2=80=99ve been
> > looking for a small=C2=A0
> > midi pedal that I can scroll up and down through a
> few
> > presets, and plug in a
> > couple of CC pedals to control specific effects
> parameters.
> > =C2=A0I Like the
> > size of this thing, I believe it has an aluminum
> chassis so
> > its pretty light as
> > well. =C2=A0Has anyone used this?
> http://www.rocktron.com/site/products/controllers/midixchange/imagezoom.h=
tml
> >=C2=A0=20
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> >=20
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Hi folks,

I'm doing a video improv double bill at the Lily Pad in Cambridge 
this coming Saturday.

I'll be performing with Tim Casey's ambient jam band chillgroove from 
7:30 - 9:30, and with an assortment of Boston's best jazzers and 
funksters led by Dennis Warren from 11 - 1 AM.

Admission to each event is $10




Late Nite Music of Quantum Jams: Acid Jazz Out Funk All the Time Ensemble
Improv Power Music with : Forbes Graham-trumpet, Jim Hobbs-alto saxophone,
Michael Shea-piano, David Warren-bass,
Stephen Walton-bass, Jose Arroyo-congas, Dennis Warren-drum

Lily Pad
1353 Cambridge St., Inman Sq.,  Cambridge, MA, 02143
(617) 388-1168
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My videos can be viewed at
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PD is Pure Data.  it's like MAX/MSP only it's free.

http://puredata.info/

On 4/6/09, David Hayes <stringfling@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Rainer Straschill wrote:
> > Hey David,
> >
> > Holy s*...Stylux RMX, Trilogy, Kore, Livid Union, guitar, EWI, vocals,
> > sax...you're sure you don't want to add PD and Reaktor? ;)
> >
> >
>
>
> What's "PD?"  I have Reaktor, it's just that I'm a shitty drummer. I can add
> stuff when needed but I lay down the base beat and be happy with it unless
> it's one of, like, 2 or 3 variations on this one particular beat. Otherwise,
> I'd have stuck with my Handsonic and never changed. Hence the need for
> RMX... hence the need for software looping because once the complexity of
> software and a laptop is introduced, the simplicity of all hardware is lost
> and you may as well enter the gates of hell and suffer there until you get
> to the other side---simplicity through complexity---and I think I see the
> light at the end of the tunnel.
>
> > perboysen@gmail.com wrote:
> > Maybe Compressor
> > has a new name now,
>
> So, still Compressor. Also comes with Soundtrack Pro.
>
>


-- 
-==-=-=-
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Hey Rainer is that a Fireworx I see stashed in you rack? I seem to recall
you saying it was disappointing to you. So far I have been very impressed
with the one I got used. I understand it doesn't have limitless processing
power, but for an 11 year old processor (yep, that's right, it was launched
in 1998), its got some pretty spectacular sounds, and I love how it responds
to midi clock and how many parameters I can control with continuous
controllers or the envelope or pitch of my input signal. I've barely
scratched the surface with how I might use finger dynamics to control things
like stereo panning, or delay depth  or swell of a white or pink noise
generator, for that matter. I'm spending time again on sound design, but I'm
not so much interested in piling on a bunch of effects, but using them in a
more dynamic way using the onboard expression pedal port to control several
different parameter functions at once.  Has anyone who owns this unit or has
owned it delved in to the use of ADSR's to control functionality? I'm a bit
fuzzy on how I'd use that. Or point me to a preset you know uses this
functionality, so I can examine the presets components, The manual for this
thing is not exactly forthcoming with a fountain of descriptive information.
Clever preset titles don't really give any indication what the preset is
about.

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impressed with the one I got used. I understand it doesn&#8217;t have =
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right, it
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design, but
I&#8217;m not so much interested in piling on a bunch of effects, but =
using
them in a more dynamic way using the onboard expression pedal port to =
control
several different parameter functions at once. &nbsp;Has anyone who owns =
this
unit or has owned it delved in to the use of ADSR&#8217;s to control
functionality? I&#8217;m a bit fuzzy on how I&#8217;d use that. Or point =
me to
a preset you know uses this functionality, so I can examine the presets
components, The manual for this thing is not exactly forthcoming with a
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> This is to let you that all is well in Rome. Just a big fear.
> Not the same in L'Aquila where hundreds of people died or are  
> homeless...
> Thanks for your interest by the top of my heart.
>
> Fabio
>
>
> Il giorno 07/apr/09, alle ore 00:36, Mike Crain <mike@mikecrain.com>  
> ha scritto:
>
>> Hey Fabio!
>>
>> 	Just hoping you and your loved ones are okay. I heard about the  
>> tragic earthquake today on NPR (national public radio) and thought  
>> about you.
>>
>> I hope this email finds you well!
>>
>> Mike Crain
>> Percussionist/Composer
>> Sacramento, CA 95818
>> mike@mikecrain.com
>> http://www.mikecrain.com
>> http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom
>>
>> "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be  
>> revealed
>> in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences created  
>> by the
>> partials will represent an appreciable contribution."
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>> - Edgard Varese
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128, 180, 0.231373); ">This is to let you that all is well in Rome. Just =
a big fear.</span><br></div><div>Not the same in L'Aquila where hundreds =
of people died or are homeless...</div><div>Thanks for your interest by =
the top of my heart.</div><div><br></div><div>Fabio =
&nbsp;</div><div><br><br>Il giorno 07/apr/09, alle ore 00:36, Mike Crain =
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Bill,

yes, it's still that FireworX you discovered, next to the other two TC
Electronics components (D2 and TripleC, the Finalizer is in another
setup, I use it mainly for FOH processing *g*).
And you remember correctly what I said about it in the past: the lack
of processing power was somewhat disappointing, what's more, there are
other limitations (like that you can only use one filter at a time, so
if you want to do e.g. an anti-wah with sweepable low-pass going to
the right channel and sweepable high-pass going to the left one)
that's not possible.
I also find that a lot of the algorithms are lacking character
somewhat. So this effector is neither that super-powerful can-do-all
box, nor that thing with lots of weaknesses but a super-characteristic
sound that makes you still use it for me.

Now there are also really beautiful things about it. Apart from a very
efficient clock sync (remember that old Repeater's warbly clock? The
FireworX was one of the few devices which could sync a delay to it
without generating artifacts), the main strong point are the
modulation capabilities.
(some of the following is from memory, so if you can't replicate what
I'm telling you, my memory is most probably at fault, not your grasp
of the unit).

One of the possible uses of the ADSR envelope is to do some kind of
transient shaping, e.g. apply a totally different dynamic envelope
shape to your input signal by simply assigning it to the level at one
point in your effects chain. This works best obviously with percussive
playing.
Of course, you don't need to stop here - you can also use it to
control e.g. filter frequency to give you some kind of super-tricky
touch wah.

Another nice thing you can do (with the ENV functionality) is this:
normally, when using that kind of super-hot fuzz/distortion
death-metal sound (sorry for the pun - you said "I'm a bit fuzzy on
how I'd use that"), you basically use most of your playing dynamics.
So simply do this: setup a simple patch which does that completely
overloaded distortion. Have the output level be controlled by the
input's ENV. And voila, you got yourself a sound that all the time
goes to eleven, yet still has subtle dynamics.

Another favourite of mine is the FREE modulation source. To give you
one hint how to use it: look at the demo fo Zachary Vex's "Ooh Wah"
and try to do that using a filter block and the free modifier.

Have fun,

            Rainer

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Jeff Larson wrote:
> [andy]
>> You don't have to wait for the on-beat when recording with a synced EDP.

> If I understand correctly, the EDP does a sort of "round off" at the
> end rather than quantizing the beginning.  You start recording
> immediately and the ending is delayed to make the loop be an even
> multiple of the beat/bar. 

yep, in EDP rounding is distinct from Quantize.
Actually Quantize was implemented later.


> I can see this being nice if you want to
> start with lead in notes that sustain over the loop start point.

The EDP was designed on the idea that a loop is cyclic, rather than
a sample with a definite start/end.
Quite likely the loop evolved into a rhythm, having started arhythmically, and the idea of a startpoint
is then lost.
So when a second EDP brother syncs to that it makes no sense to wait for startpoint.



>  If
> that's correct wouldn't the loop technically be out of alignment with
> the drum machine?

Well, I guess so.
but what's important is the alignment of the audio.


>  If you wanted to retrigger from the start you would
> have to make another pass and set the loop start point to light up
> with the drum machine's downbeat.


but that assumes that the start of the music is on that big black bar line.

> BTW, this seems like the same philosophical misunderstanding that
> makes Mobius' unquantized remultiply suck out loud compared to the
> EDP.  I really got unquantized rounding wrong....

:-)
Matthias' great invention, and us EDPers just use it without having to think.

andy butler





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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:07 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> BTW, this seems like the same philosophical misunderstanding that
>> makes Mobius' unquantized remultiply suck out loud compared to the
>> EDP.  I really got unquantized rounding wrong....
>>
>
> :-)
> Matthias' great invention, and us EDPers just use it without having to
> think.


Can you two explain this to me? I almost sent a reply to Jeffs post myself,
using the same exact phrase that Andy just used, that EDP makes loops, not
retriggered samples, but then I realised that I didnt quite understand what
Jeff meant by a "unquantized remultiply" or why it was bad on the Mobius. I
myself had problems when testing Mobius with the regular multiply function,
having come from EDP world, I always got one exact extra cycle than I was
expecting, but of course the "instant remultiple down" function, called the
"divide" is what REALLY shines for me on Mobius, and if I could have ONE
extra thing on the EDP I would want this. (In fact I would save up for weeks
and PAY Matt do do it ha ha ha!!)

but what is an unquantised remultiple when its at home? An unrounded
multiply I get... (multiply followed by a record right???) but... RE---mult?

Sorry for being a doofus, just want to completely understand andy EDP talk
going on...

Mark

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:07 AM, andy butler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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adding-left: 1ex;">

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">BTW, this seems l=
ike the same philosophical misunderstanding that<br>
makes Mobius&#39; unquantized remultiply suck out loud compared to the<br>
EDP. =A0I really got unquantized rounding wrong....<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
:-)<br>
Matthias&#39; great invention, and us EDPers just use it without having to =
think.</blockquote></div><br>Can you two explain this to me? I almost sent =
a reply to Jeffs post myself, using the same exact phrase that Andy just us=
ed, that EDP makes loops, not retriggered samples, but then I realised that=
 I didnt quite understand what Jeff meant by a &quot;unquantized remultiply=
&quot; or why it was bad on the Mobius. I myself had problems when testing =
Mobius with the regular multiply function, having come from EDP world, I al=
ways got one exact extra cycle than I was expecting, but of course the &quo=
t;instant remultiple down&quot; function, called the &quot;divide&quot; is =
what REALLY shines for me on Mobius, and if I could have ONE extra thing on=
 the EDP I would want this. (In fact I would save up for weeks and PAY Matt=
 do do it ha ha ha!!)<br>

<br>but what is an unquantised remultiple when its at home? An unrounded mu=
ltiply I get... (multiply followed by a record right???) but... RE---mult?<=
br><br>Sorry for being a doofus, just want to completely understand andy ED=
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<br>Mark<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.co=
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Hi I am new to the list and just wonder how are you all getting Mobius =
to
run on Intel Mac? In my setup Mobius crashes Live. Is there someone =
running
Mobius on mac?=20
Cheers Jan from Norway

  _____ =20

Od: FRO DIDDLY [mailto:parispro00@hotmail.com]=20
Wys=B3ano: 6. april 2009 16:48
Do: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Temat: RE: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers =
with
Live?


i had a dream one night of the perfect software looper that allowed me =
to do
practically anything i wanted-
then i found out it wasnt a dream....
it existed.....  it was called mobius.... and it was FREE

i then sold 4 electrix repeaters, 1 LP1 and bought a laptop and RME
interface..... booya for scripting

fro

> From: stringfling@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird =
loopers
with Live?=20
> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:20:30 -0700
>=20
> > for hard on-the-beat sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting=20
> in Mobius.
>=20
> Hm. Scripting in Mobius... sounds complicated but what isn't? I feel=20
> there's got to be a great solution in here for me (finally). The=20
> second I opened up Mobius (just now) and saw those familiar EDP=20
> functions I knew it was a missing piece of the puzzle..
>=20
> Between Mobius, Ableton Live 8, and Mainstage for software with a=20
> Rocktron Midi Mate foot pedal for starting and stopping RMX parts=20
> individually as well as the EDP-like Mobius functions, a GCP for Live=20
> clip/sceen functions (now that there's a Bome's midi translator for=20
> mac), the x-tempo POK for various things like arrows, copy/paste, and=20
> duplicate functions where it makes sense (so I don't have to bank up=20
> and down all the time)---I think I'll finally be able to really nail=20
> my system down:
>=20
> --- Stylus RMX (along with others, but RMX as the base) for drums with =

> independent parts stopped and started via feet. (I think RMX is=20
> acceptable live if it's played like an instrument w/ the feet.)
> --- Trilogy (and logic sound modules if using Mainstage) via EWI or=20
> Midi Guitar for bass (or a real bass ) layered over the drums
> --- Then guitar, vocals, sax, or midi sounds from NI Kore, Motu's=20
> Symphonic or Ethno instruments (among others) layered over the bass=20
> and drums.
> --- And, Livid Union with the Ohm controller and x-tempo POK (and=20
> sometimes EWI and Midi Guitar) for live video trigger/manipulation.
>=20
> Missing components were getting Stylus RMX to be foot controlled,=20
> Bome's Midi Translator for mac and the x-tempo-POK to ease foot=20
> control set up, and Mobius/Live8 for true software looping=20
> functionality. All coming together now... it has to be.
>=20
> I think we're a few months away from a demo of some sort, people!...=20
> once I get everything playing well together.
>=20
> (I'm excited so I thought I'd share.) When I truly figure out the best =

> set up and work flow (hardware, software, and musically speaking) I=20
> will pass it on in full detail.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
>=20
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, David Hayes <stringfling@gmail.com> =

> > wrote:
> >> Thank you so much for your time. The main thing I was looking for=20
> >> was a way
> >> to Loop with Stylus RMX as the basic drum part, taking the drum=20
> >> parts in and
> >> out with my footswitch and always being in time. All with the same=20
> >> basic
> >> work flow as an EDP. Ability to set loop tempo with first phrase=20
> >> would be a
> >> nice extra but not so important.
> >
> > Ah... now we're talking! RMX is awesome, but I would guess that any
> > host slaving to MIDI Clock is not rhythmically stable enough for RMX
> > (please note this is a guess - if you are interested you should =
really
> > try it out to see if it works). RMX has always been stable for me =
when
> > the host is the sync master.
> >
> > Slave syncing Loopers: I've been jamming with other musicians when =
we
> > were all using EDP's and the only down side is that you may have to
> > wait for the on-beat when laying down your first loop (I sometimes
> > created a silent first loop, in the Brother Sync network, and then
> > filled it up with my playing, just to avoid bumps). It's just that =
for
> > the solo concerts I do it makes for a way better performance if =
never
> > having to watch the scrreen or wait for a cue... just get up there =
and
> > start playing, sort of. And I never use "drums" live if there is not =
a
> > drummer (laptopper or skin basher) on stage to play with me ;-))
> > (but I really love RMX for studio work!!!! Especially 1.7 for odd
> > measures)
> >
> > About MIDI Clock: After all it is a subversive catch-up game. The =
sync
> > slave never really realizes that it is too fast or too slow until it
> > has already crossed the line and has to start adjusting to =
compensate
> > for its mistake. And then it makes the same mistake from the other
> > direction... and vice versa... for eternity. TAlk about a "miserable
> > loop"! Good thing machines and software don't have feelings - they
> > would instantly implode into depression ;-)
> >
> > I use the host application for synced delays, reverb, synced tremolo
> > or filter sweeps. For effect add-ons like those I the rubber band
> > timing of a MIDI Clock sync is good enough. But for hard on-the-beat
> > sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting in Mobius. The reason
> > is that this will then be done in a rock solid timing
> >
> > Per
> >
>=20


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RMX,=20
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<DIV></DIV>i had a dream one night of the perfect software looper that =
allowed=20
me to do practically anything i wanted-<BR>then i found out it wasnt a=20
dream....<BR>it existed.....&nbsp; it was called mobius.... and it was=20
FREE<BR><BR>i then sold 4 electrix repeaters, 1 LP1 and bought a laptop =
and RME=20
interface..... booya for scripting<BR><BR>fro<BR><BR>&gt; From:=20
stringfling@gmail.com<BR>&gt; To: =
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR>&gt;=20
Subject: Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers =
with=20
Live? <BR>&gt; Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:20:30 -0700<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
&gt; for=20
hard on-the-beat sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting <BR>&gt; =
in=20
Mobius.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hm. Scripting in Mobius... sounds complicated =
but what=20
isn't? I feel <BR>&gt; there's got to be a great solution in here for me =

(finally). The <BR>&gt; second I opened up Mobius (just now) and saw =
those=20
familiar EDP <BR>&gt; functions I knew it was a missing piece of the=20
puzzle..<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Between Mobius, Ableton Live 8, and Mainstage =
for=20
software with a <BR>&gt; Rocktron Midi Mate foot pedal for starting and =
stopping=20
RMX parts <BR>&gt; individually as well as the EDP-like Mobius =
functions, a GCP=20
for Live <BR>&gt; clip/sceen functions (now that there's a Bome's midi=20
translator for <BR>&gt; mac), the x-tempo POK for various things like =
arrows,=20
copy/paste, and <BR>&gt; duplicate functions where it makes sense (so I =
don't=20
have to bank up <BR>&gt; and down all the time)---I think I'll finally =
be able=20
to really nail <BR>&gt; my system down:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; --- Stylus RMX =
(along=20
with others, but RMX as the base) for drums with <BR>&gt; independent =
parts=20
stopped and started via feet. (I think RMX is <BR>&gt; acceptable live =
if it's=20
played like an instrument w/ the feet.)<BR>&gt; --- Trilogy (and logic =
sound=20
modules if using Mainstage) via EWI or <BR>&gt; Midi Guitar for bass (or =
a real=20
bass ) layered over the drums<BR>&gt; --- Then guitar, vocals, sax, or =
midi=20
sounds from NI Kore, Motu's <BR>&gt; Symphonic or Ethno instruments =
(among=20
others) layered over the bass <BR>&gt; and drums.<BR>&gt; --- And, Livid =
Union=20
with the Ohm controller and x-tempo POK (and <BR>&gt; sometimes EWI and =
Midi=20
Guitar) for live video trigger/manipulation.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Missing =
components=20
were getting Stylus RMX to be foot controlled, <BR>&gt; Bome's Midi =
Translator=20
for mac and the x-tempo-POK to ease foot <BR>&gt; control set up, and=20
Mobius/Live8 for true software looping <BR>&gt; functionality. All =
coming=20
together now... it has to be.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I think we're a few =
months away=20
from a demo of some sort, people!... <BR>&gt; once I get everything =
playing well=20
together.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; (I'm excited so I thought I'd share.) When I =
truly=20
figure out the best <BR>&gt; set up and work flow (hardware, software, =
and=20
musically speaking) I <BR>&gt; will pass it on in full detail.<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:27 AM, Per Boysen =
wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; &gt; On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, David Hayes=20
&lt;stringfling@gmail.com&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; =
Thank you so=20
much for your time. The main thing I was looking for <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; =
was a=20
way<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; to Loop with Stylus RMX as the basic drum part, =
taking the=20
drum <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; parts in and<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; out with my =
footswitch and=20
always being in time. All with the same <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; basic<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;=20
work flow as an EDP. Ability to set loop tempo with first phrase =
<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&gt; would be a<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; nice extra but not so =
important.<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Ah... now we're talking! RMX is awesome, but I would =
guess=20
that any<BR>&gt; &gt; host slaving to MIDI Clock is not rhythmically =
stable=20
enough for RMX<BR>&gt; &gt; (please note this is a guess - if you are =
interested=20
you should really<BR>&gt; &gt; try it out to see if it works). RMX has =
always=20
been stable for me when<BR>&gt; &gt; the host is the sync =
master.<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Slave syncing Loopers: I've been jamming with other =
musicians=20
when we<BR>&gt; &gt; were all using EDP's and the only down side is that =
you may=20
have to<BR>&gt; &gt; wait for the on-beat when laying down your first =
loop (I=20
sometimes<BR>&gt; &gt; created a silent first loop, in the Brother Sync =
network,=20
and then<BR>&gt; &gt; filled it up with my playing, just to avoid =
bumps). It's=20
just that for<BR>&gt; &gt; the solo concerts I do it makes for a way =
better=20
performance if never<BR>&gt; &gt; having to watch the scrreen or wait =
for a=20
cue... just get up there and<BR>&gt; &gt; start playing, sort of. And I =
never=20
use "drums" live if there is not a<BR>&gt; &gt; drummer (laptopper or =
skin=20
basher) on stage to play with me ;-))<BR>&gt; &gt; (but I really love =
RMX for=20
studio work!!!! Especially 1.7 for odd<BR>&gt; &gt; measures)<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; About MIDI Clock: After all it is a subversive =
catch-up game.=20
The sync<BR>&gt; &gt; slave never really realizes that it is too fast or =
too=20
slow until it<BR>&gt; &gt; has already crossed the line and has to start =

adjusting to compensate<BR>&gt; &gt; for its mistake. And then it makes =
the same=20
mistake from the other<BR>&gt; &gt; direction... and vice versa... for =
eternity.=20
TAlk about a "miserable<BR>&gt; &gt; loop"! Good thing machines and =
software=20
don't have feelings - they<BR>&gt; &gt; would instantly implode into =
depression=20
;-)<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I use the host application for synced =
delays,=20
reverb, synced tremolo<BR>&gt; &gt; or filter sweeps. For effect add-ons =
like=20
those I the rubber band<BR>&gt; &gt; timing of a MIDI Clock sync is good =
enough.=20
But for hard on-the-beat<BR>&gt; &gt; sequencing of loop mangling I go =
for=20
scripting in Mobius. The reason<BR>&gt; &gt; is that this will then be =
done in a=20
rock solid timing<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Per<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
<BR><BR>
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2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski <jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no>:
> Hi I am new to the list and just wonder how are you all getting Mobius to
> run on Intel Mac? In my setup Mobius crashes Live. Is there someone running
> Mobius on mac?
> Cheers Jan from Norway


It's very stable here on a 2.2 white Macbook (the old Santa Rosa chip
model). I tried Mobius in Live 8 as well and it was totally stable. I
use Mobius on a regular basis for live concerts, but then I use
Mainstage as the host application (Live is still too CPU demanding
when swapping between many alternative input channel strip presets -
and that's a big part of what I do).

Make sure you have the Mobius settings for sync correctly set
according to sync settings in Live. And vice versa... Also check
buffer size

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Yes i am also waiting for the mighty EDP like multiply on Mobius!
True, the instant divide is kick ass and so much fun but i still want to have the freedom to edit the loop however i feel like it and not be forced to use those.Another one i love sort of multiply related is the bounce feature!
i would also understand remultiply as multiplying on top of a multiplied action,Andy?



 I myself had problems when testing Mobius
> with the regular multiply function, having come from EDP
> world, I always got one exact extra cycle than I was
> expecting, but of course the "instant remultiple
> down" function, called the "divide" is what
> REALLY shines for me on Mobius, and if I could have ONE
> extra thing on the EDP I would want this. (In fact I would
> save up for weeks and PAY Matt do do it ha ha ha!!)
> 
> 
> 
> but what is an unquantised remultiple when its at home? An
> unrounded multiply I get... (multiply followed by a record
> right???) but... RE---mult?
> 
> Sorry for being a doofus, just want to completely
> understand andy EDP talk going on...
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> -- 
> www.markfrancombe.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> 
> 
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch
> 
> 
> 
> 


      

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:42 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yes i am also waiting for the mighty EDP like multiply on Mobius!


Yup, I'd appreciate that too. But the bottom line for me is that I'm
happy that, with Mobius, I got away an aspect of multiply on the EDP
that always annoyed the shit out of me. I'm talking about the Loop4
now, not Loop3: When you want to cut down the length of a loop with
Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too short time
between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want to tell it
that you want to "multiply for a number of cycles" (equaling the
number of erroneous Multiply kicks given too quickly. There was no way
to call off that action on the EDP - you were forced to live with it.
In a live situation where you may work with a loop of two minutes
length this would result in a forced multiply for two more minutes -
instead of the intended cutting down the loop to just one cycle to
keep the musical flow up. I just hated that function and I never found
out a way to disable it.

So I must say that I'm generally more happy with the Mobius way of
multiplying. I used to keep my own script that waits until the next
cycle cusp before starting the Multiply, but since that doesn't work
with the Lame Duck Period I have repelled back to stock Mobius
multiplying now. I found that it is actually possible to not have that
dreadful extra cycle added; you have to kick the Multiply just a
fraction before the next quantize value and then you have to go out of
Multiply Mode with Overdub. Someone on the Mobius list posted that
advice.

I also love the Instant Multiply/Devide. I always keep pedals and hand
buttons for x2, x3 and x4. That makes it possible to cut down or
increase loop lengths to musically interesting relations in just a
second. My favorite is to copy a loop length, then go x3 and then /2
(or x4 and /3). Apply to one of two, or more, parallel loops for poly
rhythm cooking. ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Weird, it crashec Live 7 and it continues to crash Live 8. As a matter =
of a
fact standalone crashes sometimes too. Might be a Leopard/intel mac =
issue. I
will check syncing. Mobius is a great programm, I would definately pay =
for
the stable retail version. Anyone else running M. succesfylly on intel =
mac?
Intresting with Mainstage, I have tried it several times ending up with =
Live
eventually :)=20
Jan

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2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski <jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no>:
> Hi I am new to the list and just wonder how are you all getting Mobius =
to
> run on Intel Mac? In my setup Mobius crashes Live. Is there someone
running
> Mobius on mac?
> Cheers Jan from Norway


It's very stable here on a 2.2 white Macbook (the old Santa Rosa chip
model). I tried Mobius in Live 8 as well and it was totally stable. I
use Mobius on a regular basis for live concerts, but then I use
Mainstage as the host application (Live is still too CPU demanding
when swapping between many alternative input channel strip presets -
and that's a big part of what I do).

Make sure you have the Mobius settings for sync correctly set
according to sync settings in Live. And vice versa... Also check
buffer size

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Mobius is stable in Intel Macs. Just check your settings. Goof around
with them and try out what makes the looper stable. In experience
Mobius is one of the most stable audio applications I've ever come
around, both on Windows and OS X. It almost never crashes on me.

Some data for comparison:

My 2,2 gHz Macbook has 4 GB ram.
In Mobius I use these Global Settings:

Noise Floor: 200
Fade Frames: 64
Long Press Millseconds: 500
Drift Resync Frames 4096
Shift Range: 48

I have not selected any of:
Save Projects Layers
Monitur Audio Input (using it on a bus, send/return loop)
MIDI Record Pulsed
16 Bit Wave Files

But maybe the most important factor for software looper stability is
to run the looper as the tempo sync master. This keeps the looper free
from the hard labor of adapting to a host tempo while performing all
your precious loop mangling commands. Can we have some input on the
more computer programming savvy folks on this, please?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski <jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no>:
> Weird, it crashec Live 7 and it continues to crash Live 8. As a matter of=
 a
> fact standalone crashes sometimes too. Might be a Leopard/intel mac issue=
. I
> will check syncing. Mobius is a great programm, I would definately pay fo=
r
> the stable retail version. Anyone else running M. succesfylly on intel ma=
c?
> Intresting with Mainstage, I have tried it several times ending up with L=
ive
> eventually :)
> Jan
>
> -----Wiadomo=C5=9B=C4=87 oryginalna-----
> Od: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]
> Wys=C5=82ano: 7. april 2009 12:19
> Do: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Temat: Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers
> withLive?
>
> 2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski <jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no>:
>> Hi I am new to the list and just wonder how are you all getting Mobius t=
o
>> run on Intel Mac? In my setup Mobius crashes Live. Is there someone
> running
>> Mobius on mac?
>> Cheers Jan from Norway
>
>
> It's very stable here on a 2.2 white Macbook (the old Santa Rosa chip
> model). I tried Mobius in Live 8 as well and it was totally stable. I
> use Mobius on a regular basis for live concerts, but then I use
> Mainstage as the host application (Live is still too CPU demanding
> when swapping between many alternative input channel strip presets -
> and that's a big part of what I do).
>
> Make sure you have the Mobius settings for sync correctly set
> according to sync settings in Live. And vice versa... Also check
> buffer size
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>

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labaloops@yahoo.com wrote:
> ok my bad i havent read the manual
> But yes there are companies that require to use their own cable only
> Trance Audio being one of them!
This message was not picked up by my email filter and therefore wasn't 
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2.  What do some of you other members do when your filters route your LD 
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Cheers,

Bill

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waddup perdy-

> But maybe the most important factor for software looper stability is
> to run the looper as the tempo sync master. This keeps the looper free
> from the hard labor of adapting to a host tempo while performing all
> your precious loop mangling commands. Can we have some input on the
> more computer programming savvy folks on this, please?

FYI - i have always slaved mobius to a drum machine (for click track only)-
ive had the same lovely experience that you have with extereme mobius stability-
i only use the standalone version as currently i need nothing else-
i run a 2.2 dual core MBP w/3 gig in bootcamp XP.... about to build a compact CPU and go touch screen -- =D

fro








> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:12:17 +0200
> Subject: Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers 	withLive?
> From: perboysen@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> 
> Mobius is stable in Intel Macs. Just check your settings. Goof around
> with them and try out what makes the looper stable. In experience
> Mobius is one of the most stable audio applications I've ever come
> around, both on Windows and OS X. It almost never crashes on me.
> 
> Some data for comparison:
> 
> My 2,2 gHz Macbook has 4 GB ram.
> In Mobius I use these Global Settings:
> 
> Noise Floor: 200
> Fade Frames: 64
> Long Press Millseconds: 500
> Drift Resync Frames 4096
> Shift Range: 48
> 
> I have not selected any of:
> Save Projects Layers
> Monitur Audio Input (using it on a bus, send/return loop)
> MIDI Record Pulsed
> 16 Bit Wave Files
> 
> But maybe the most important factor for software looper stability is
> to run the looper as the tempo sync master. This keeps the looper free
> from the hard labor of adapting to a host tempo while performing all
> your precious loop mangling commands. Can we have some input on the
> more computer programming savvy folks on this, please?
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> 
> 
> 
> 2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski <jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no>:
> > Weird, it crashec Live 7 and it continues to crash Live 8. As a matter of a
> > fact standalone crashes sometimes too. Might be a Leopard/intel mac issue. I
> > will check syncing. Mobius is a great programm, I would definately pay for
> > the stable retail version. Anyone else running M. succesfylly on intel mac?
> > Intresting with Mainstage, I have tried it several times ending up with Live
> > eventually :)
> > Jan
> >
> > -----Wiadomo¶æ oryginalna-----
> > Od: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]
> > Wys³ano: 7. april 2009 12:19
> > Do: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Temat: Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers
> > withLive?
> >
> > 2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski <jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no>:
> >> Hi I am new to the list and just wonder how are you all getting Mobius to
> >> run on Intel Mac? In my setup Mobius crashes Live. Is there someone
> > running
> >> Mobius on mac?
> >> Cheers Jan from Norway
> >
> >
> > It's very stable here on a 2.2 white Macbook (the old Santa Rosa chip
> > model). I tried Mobius in Live 8 as well and it was totally stable. I
> > use Mobius on a regular basis for live concerts, but then I use
> > Mainstage as the host application (Live is still too CPU demanding
> > when swapping between many alternative input channel strip presets -
> > and that's a big part of what I do).
> >
> > Make sure you have the Mobius settings for sync correctly set
> > according to sync settings in Live. And vice versa... Also check
> > buffer size
> >
> > Greetings from Sweden
> >
> > Per Boysen
> > www.boysen.se
> > www.perboysen.com
> >
> >
> 

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waddup perdy-<br><br>&gt; But maybe the most important factor for software looper stability is<br>&gt; to run the looper as the tempo sync master. This keeps the looper free<br>&gt; from the hard labor of adapting to a host tempo while performing all<br>&gt; your precious loop mangling commands. Can we have some input on the<br>&gt; more computer programming savvy folks on this, please?<br><br>FYI - i have always slaved mobius to a drum machine (for click track only)-<br>ive had the same lovely experience that you have with extereme mobius stability-<br>i only use the standalone version as currently i need nothing else-<br>i run a 2.2 dual core MBP w/3 gig in bootcamp XP.... about to build a compact CPU and go touch screen -- =D<br><br>fro<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>&gt; Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:12:17 +0200<br>&gt; Subject: Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers 	withLive?<br>&gt; From: perboysen@gmail.com<br>&gt; To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Mobius is stable in Intel Macs. Just check your settings. Goof around<br>&gt; with them and try out what makes the looper stable. In experience<br>&gt; Mobius is one of the most stable audio applications I've ever come<br>&gt; around, both on Windows and OS X. It almost never crashes on me.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Some data for comparison:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; My 2,2 gHz Macbook has 4 GB ram.<br>&gt; In Mobius I use these Global Settings:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Noise Floor: 200<br>&gt; Fade Frames: 64<br>&gt; Long Press Millseconds: 500<br>&gt; Drift Resync Frames 4096<br>&gt; Shift Range: 48<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I have not selected any of:<br>&gt; Save Projects Layers<br>&gt; Monitur Audio Input (using it on a bus, send/return loop)<br>&gt; MIDI Record Pulsed<br>&gt; 16 Bit Wave Files<br>&gt; <br>&gt; But maybe the most important factor for software looper stability is<br>&gt; to run the looper as the tempo sync master. This keeps the looper free<br>&gt; from the hard labor of adapting to a host tempo while performing all<br>&gt; your precious loop mangling commands. Can we have some input on the<br>&gt; more computer programming savvy folks on this, please?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Greetings from Sweden<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Per Boysen<br>&gt; www.boysen.se<br>&gt; www.perboysen.com<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; 2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski &lt;jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no&gt;:<br>&gt; &gt; Weird, it crashec Live 7 and it continues to crash Live 8. As a matter of a<br>&gt; &gt; fact standalone crashes sometimes too. Might be a Leopard/intel mac issue. I<br>&gt; &gt; will check syncing. Mobius is a great programm, I would definately pay for<br>&gt; &gt; the stable retail version. Anyone else running M. succesfylly on intel mac?<br>&gt; &gt; Intresting with Mainstage, I have tried it several times ending up with Live<br>&gt; &gt; eventually :)<br>&gt; &gt; Jan<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; -----Wiadomo¶æ oryginalna-----<br>&gt; &gt; Od: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]<br>&gt; &gt; Wys³ano: 7. april 2009 12:19<br>&gt; &gt; Do: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>&gt; &gt; Temat: Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers<br>&gt; &gt; withLive?<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; 2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski &lt;jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no&gt;:<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi I am new to the list and just wonder how are you all getting Mobius to<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; run on Intel Mac? In my setup Mobius crashes Live. Is there someone<br>&gt; &gt; running<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Mobius on mac?<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Cheers Jan from Norway<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; It's very stable here on a 2.2 white Macbook (the old Santa Rosa chip<br>&gt; &gt; model). I tried Mobius in Live 8 as well and it was totally stable. I<br>&gt; &gt; use Mobius on a regular basis for live concerts, but then I use<br>&gt; &gt; Mainstage as the host application (Live is still too CPU demanding<br>&gt; &gt; when swapping between many alternative input channel strip presets -<br>&gt; &gt; and that's a big part of what I do).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Make sure you have the Mobius settings for sync correctly set<br>&gt; &gt; according to sync settings in Live. And vice versa... Also check<br>&gt; &gt; buffer size<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Greetings from Sweden<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Per Boysen<br>&gt; &gt; www.boysen.se<br>&gt; &gt; www.perboysen.com<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br><br /><hr />Rediscover HotmailR: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox.  <a href='http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009' target='_new'>Check it out.</a></body>
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>> But maybe the most important factor for software looper stability is
>> to run the looper as the tempo sync master. This keeps the looper free
>> from the hard labor of adapting to a host tempo while performing all
>> your precious loop mangling commands. Can we have some input on the
>> more computer programming savvy folks on this, please?

2009/4/7 FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com>:

> FYI - i have always slaved mobius to a drum machine (for click track only)-
> ive had the same lovely experience that you have with extereme mobius
> stability-
> i only use the standalone version as currently i need nothing else-
> i run a 2.2 dual core MBP w/3 gig in bootcamp XP.... about to build a
> compact CPU and go touch screen -- =D
>
> fro


That's good to know! I'm happy to learn that my guess wasn't correct.
This opens up a lot of interesting ideas for the future...

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[Jan Ozarowski]
> Weird, it crashec Live 7 and it continues to crash Live 8. As a matter of=
 a
> fact standalone crashes sometimes too. Might be a Leopard/intel mac issue=
.

It could be several things.  The most common reason for crashing in a
VST host is conflict over who gets to control the MIDI devices.  In
the MIDI Devices dialog make sure you have nothing selected in the
right column.  The best thing to do is enable trace messages to the
console and send me the console log after it crashes.  Please consider
joining the Mobius Yahoo group at groups.yahoo.com/group/zonemobius
and we can diagnose it over there.

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> It could be several things. =C2=A0The most common reason for crashing in =
a
> VST host is conflict over who gets to control the MIDI devices. =C2=A0In
> the MIDI Devices dialog make sure you have nothing selected in the
> right column.

Obviously it's a little different with an AU host. Or maybe it is an
OS X thing? Over here I'm running Mobius AU under Mainstage and both
Mainstage and Mobius AU are listening to the same MIDI In port. This
has not been problematic.

Greetings from Sweden

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Per,

When you want to cut down the length of a loop with
> Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too short time
> between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want to tell it
> that you want to "multiply for a number of cycles"
>

Aargh! Yes, that bugs me no end, too.

I've found the best way round it is to have a separate
Sus-Unrounded-Multiply switch on my FCB, as well as a 'normal' multiply.

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">Per,</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><blockq=
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solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div id=3D":vp" class=3D"ii gt">When you want to c=
ut down the length of a loop with<br>

Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too short time<br>
between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want to tell it<br>
that you want to &quot;multiply for a number of cycles&quot;</div></blockqu=
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/div><div>I&#39;ve found the best way round it is to have a separate Sus-Un=
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=A0</div>
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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Ian Petersen <iep@mail.dk> wrote:
> Per,
>>
>> When you want to cut down the length of a loop with
>> Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too short time
>> between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want to tell it
>> that you want to "multiply for a number of cycles"
>
> Aargh! Yes, that bugs me no end, too.
> I've found the best way round it is to have a separate
> Sus-Unrounded-Multiply switch on my FCB, as well as a 'normal' multiply.


Smart, Ian! I never thought that far back in my EDP days ;-))

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No, 5-7-pin MIDI cables are made by other companies also, I have several.
 Also, you only need the 7-pin hookup if you want to phantom power the pedal
and not have power at the front of the stage.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> seems cool Bill but be careful, it requires a 5-7 pin midi cable, that ONLY
> Rocktron makes!
> cheers
> Luis
>
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=A0Also, you only need the 7-pin hookup if you want to phantom power the pe=
dal and not have power at the front of the stage.<div><br><br><div class=3D=
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<br>
seems cool Bill but be careful, it requires a 5-7 pin midi cable, that ONLY=
 Rocktron makes!<br>
cheers<br>
Luis<br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Jeff,
you would have a hard time to copy my way of rounding with your way to  
store samples.
I know its a challenge for you. And it must be possible...
but from my point of view, you could leave this one alone for my loop  
plug, its very mine.
you have been very successful in copying every other function, some of  
which I could not really call mine, because the ideas came from  
fellows on this list...
and... its even more challenging to add more new stuff, no?

:-)
Matthias

On 6 Apr 2009, at 12:55, Jeff Larson wrote:

> [andy]
>> You don't have to wait for the on-beat when recording with a synced  
>> EDP.
>> You just have to wait for the EDP to gain sync, then you can start
>> recording at any point.
>> Looperlative does the same trick afaik.
>> Surely Mobius too??
>
> I think this is an area where I diverged without knowing it.  When
> using the slave sync modes Mobius recording behaves similar to
> quantization.  If you have SyncMode=HostBar for example, a 4/4
> timesig, and you press record at beat 2, it will wait two beats before
> starting the recording.  This seemed consistent to me since I almost
> always have quantiziation on and I'm accustomed to pressing switches a
> little ahead of the beat.  In other words, it's like the "first loop"
> is in the drum machine and recording behaves like
> NextLoop/SwitchQuant=Cycle/AutoRecord=On.
>
> If I understand correctly, the EDP does a sort of "round off" at the
> end rather than quantizing the beginning.  You start recording
> immediately and the ending is delayed to make the loop be an even
> multiple of the beat/bar.  I can see this being nice if you want to
> start with lead in notes that sustain over the loop start point.  If
> that's correct wouldn't the loop technically be out of alignment with
> the drum machine?  If you wanted to retrigger from the start you would
> have to make another pass and set the loop start point to light up
> with the drum machine's downbeat.
>
> I like both, maybe someway they're will be another mode, because there
> just aren't enough switches and knobs yet :-)
>
> BTW, this seems like the same philosophical misunderstanding that
> makes Mobius' unquantized remultiply suck out loud compared to the
> EDP.  I really got unquantized rounding wrong....
>
>
> Jeff
>

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> Can you two explain this to me? I almost sent a reply to Jeffs post
> myself, using the same exact phrase that Andy just used, that EDP
> makes loops, not retriggered samples,
=20
Yes the architectures are quite different, especially in the way loop
memory is organized.  It's hard to explain with few words but the EDP
is more "loop oriented" and Mobius is more "sample oriented".  Memory
in the EDP is like a long piece of tape you're constantly recording and
feeding back onto.  Mobius memory is more like little pieces of tape
that are spliced together and overlayed with complicated cross fading
to make it sound like a continuous multilayered loop.
=20
There are advantages and disadvantages with both approaches.  The EDP
memory architecture makes the beloved Loop Windowing easy.  You just
move the playback head and loop point farther back on the "tape".
This is also the reason the "rounding" we've been talking about works
so naturally.  It's really quite brilliant.=20
=20
Mobius memory architecture makes things like Shuffle, Divide, and
other "instant" functions easy.  I doesn't have to make changes
gradually as the loop plays, it can stop and completely reorganize the
tape splices then continue with that as the basis for a new loop.
Loop Windowing is difficult because of the way Mobius layers work,
they're more like static loop samples, you can undo/redo to move among
them freely but creating a window that spans several layers and
sliding the window back and forth is complicated.
=20
This architecture of course influences how I think about looping
functions.  I tend to think of a cycle as a sample with a definite
start and end rather than a span of time on a continuum.  This is the
heart of the problem with the unquantized multiply seen in figure 4.5
on page 5-29.
=20
The "extra cycle" problem only exists if you have quantization turned
off or set to SubCycle and you time things just right.  With
Quantization set to Cycle or Loop, my incorrect interpretation just
happens to match what the EDP would do so you don't notice it.  I tend
to be a "bar" oriented looper so multiply is almost always quantized
to a cycle boundary and I don't notice the extra cycle problem.
=20
This will be fixed someday.  Unfortunately I've become involved
in an online game that takes a lot of time :-)
=20
Jeff

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interesting. I use multiply a lot and never had this problem.
but I can easily make this Multi-Inc feature switchable or even trash  
it if no one uses it
... for the plug...

On 7 Apr 2009, at 12:30, Ian Petersen wrote:

> Per,
>
> When you want to cut down the length of a loop with
> Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too short time
> between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want to tell it
> that you want to "multiply for a number of cycles"
>
> Aargh! Yes, that bugs me no end, too.
>
> I've found the best way round it is to have a separate Sus-Unrounded- 
> Multiply switch on my FCB, as well as a 'normal' multiply.
>
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I never had that either.
..and I'm often cutting a loop down  to one/two cycles.

Multi-Increase ("multiply for a number of cycles") only kicks in on the 3rd 
press of Mult.

...or is this connected with quantise?

andy

Matthias Grob wrote:
> interesting. I use multiply a lot and never had this problem.
> but I can easily make this Multi-Inc feature switchable or even trash it 
> if no one uses it
> ... for the plug...
> 
> On 7 Apr 2009, at 12:30, Ian Petersen wrote:
> 
>> Per,
>>
>> When you want to cut down the length of a loop with
>> Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too short time
>> between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want to tell it
>> that you want to "multiply for a number of cycles"
>>
>> Aargh! Yes, that bugs me no end, too.
>>
>> I've found the best way round it is to have a separate 
>> Sus-Unrounded-Multiply switch on my FCB, as well as a 'normal' multiply.
>>
>> Ian
> 
> 

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> you would have a hard time to copy my way of rounding with your way to =20
> store samples.

Yes.  As I've said before I'm really not interested in being an "EDP
clone" any more.  Currently I'm more interested in "DJ" functions
like Ableton or Kenaxis and there is a constant tension trying
to blend the two worlds.  I expect Mobius 2.0 when it ever
comes out to look quite different...

Cheers,
Jeff

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Sjaak disregard this email i just got your info on my other account your em=
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Matthias,

interesting. I use multiply a lot and never had this problem.
> but I can easily make this Multi-Inc feature switchable or even trash it if
> no one uses it
> ... for the plug...
>

Well, I'm sure multiincrease is useful for something. ;-)
But the ability to switch it off would be great!

Ian

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#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div id=3D":2h4" class=3D"ii gt">interesting.=
 I use multiply a lot and never had this problem.<br>

but I can easily make this Multi-Inc feature switchable or even trash it if=
 no one uses it<br>
... for the plug...</div></blockquote></div><br><div>Well, I&#39;m sure mul=
tiincrease is useful for something. ;-)=A0</div><div>But the ability to swi=
tch it off would be great!</div><div><br></div><div>Ian</div>

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Ok., it seems more stable with this assignments. I will keep trying, if =
you
say it is stable it must be :) I am however more intrested to run in =
sync
with live to keep up with some preloaded rhytmic loops and live 8's =
looper.=20
What midi controllers do you use to control Mobius?=20
I am dreaming of controlling live loop system with some midi foot
controller. I used to mess around with midi yoke but it pretty =
complicated.
Isn't there a better way? A simple way to end recording one scene and =
start
recording another in next track?=20
Per i see you are an expert in Logic. Wouldn't it be nice to organize a
course in Olso? (sorry for off topic...)
Jan=20


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Od: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=20
Wys=B3ano: 7. april 2009 14:12
Do: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Temat: Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers
withLive?

Mobius is stable in Intel Macs. Just check your settings. Goof around
with them and try out what makes the looper stable. In experience
Mobius is one of the most stable audio applications I've ever come
around, both on Windows and OS X. It almost never crashes on me.

Some data for comparison:

My 2,2 gHz Macbook has 4 GB ram.
In Mobius I use these Global Settings:

Noise Floor: 200
Fade Frames: 64
Long Press Millseconds: 500
Drift Resync Frames 4096
Shift Range: 48

I have not selected any of:
Save Projects Layers
Monitur Audio Input (using it on a bus, send/return loop)
MIDI Record Pulsed
16 Bit Wave Files

But maybe the most important factor for software looper stability is
to run the looper as the tempo sync master. This keeps the looper free
from the hard labor of adapting to a host tempo while performing all
your precious loop mangling commands. Can we have some input on the
more computer programming savvy folks on this, please?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski <jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no>:
> Weird, it crashec Live 7 and it continues to crash Live 8. As a matter =
of
a
> fact standalone crashes sometimes too. Might be a Leopard/intel mac =
issue.
I
> will check syncing. Mobius is a great programm, I would definately pay =
for
> the stable retail version. Anyone else running M. succesfylly on intel
mac?
> Intresting with Mainstage, I have tried it several times ending up =
with
Live
> eventually :)
> Jan
>
> -----Wiadomosc oryginalna-----
> Od: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]
> Wyslano: 7. april 2009 12:19
> Do: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Temat: Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers
> withLive?
>
> 2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski <jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no>:
>> Hi I am new to the list and just wonder how are you all getting =
Mobius to
>> run on Intel Mac? In my setup Mobius crashes Live. Is there someone
> running
>> Mobius on mac?
>> Cheers Jan from Norway
>
>
> It's very stable here on a 2.2 white Macbook (the old Santa Rosa chip
> model). I tried Mobius in Live 8 as well and it was totally stable. I
> use Mobius on a regular basis for live concerts, but then I use
> Mainstage as the host application (Live is still too CPU demanding
> when swapping between many alternative input channel strip presets -
> and that's a big part of what I do).
>
> Make sure you have the Mobius settings for sync correctly set
> according to sync settings in Live. And vice versa... Also check
> buffer size
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>

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2009/4/7 Jan Ozarowski <jan.ozarowski@broadpark.no>:

> What midi controllers do you use to control Mobius?

Different. The foot control is usually a Behringer FCB1010. The I use
two small hand controlled boxes: a mini mixer and a button pad, the
Faderfox LV1 and LX1
http://www.faderfox.de/html/1st_generation_page.html
...and then I use a lot of laptop computer keys.

> I used to mess around with midi yoke but it pretty complicated.
> Isn't there a better way?

Use OSX, since it already has built-in "MIDI Yoke" capabilities. ;-)

> A simple way to end recording one scene

"scene"... are you referring to Ableton Live here?

> and start
> recording another in next track?

You want a scene change in Ableton automatically call up a Next Track
command in Mobius? That should be possible, if I understand you
correctly, by preparing MIDI clips in Live that contain control data
for Mobius. As you change scene the MIDI Clipe fires off its content
(if you have set Live up that way) into Mobius (if you have routed the
MIDI path that way).

Both Live and Mobius has very explanatory manuals that you read in an
hour. Then you will know what is possible and how to set it up.

> Per i see you are an expert in Logic. Wouldn't it be nice to organize a
> course in Olso? (sorry for off topic...)

Definitely! Do you have any idea who should want to organize that? The
conservatory? Some other schools? I have all my prices and different
educational programs at display on my Swedish web site. Usually
administrators hire me on basis of those courses and we change around
the content a bit to match the particular auditorium. When we played
at Oslo concert house last summer there were some conservatory
students asking me if I "do clinics", so there may be some interest. I
know Norway folks also read the magazines I write tutorials in.

All the best

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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also the fact that you can also have separate "tracks" of different lengths at will instead of being always tighted up to a loop is a big advantage and not always so dependent on Multiply !


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--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live?
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 4:33 AM
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:42 PM,
> L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Yes i am also waiting for the mighty EDP like multiply
> on Mobius!
> 
> 
> Yup, I'd appreciate that too. But the bottom line for me is
> that I'm
> happy that, with Mobius, I got away an aspect of multiply
> on the EDP
> that always annoyed the shit out of me. I'm talking about
> the Loop4
> now, not Loop3: When you want to cut down the length of a
> loop with
> Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too
> short time
> between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want
> to tell it
> that you want to "multiply for a number of cycles"
> (equaling the
> number of erroneous Multiply kicks given too quickly. There
> was no way
> to call off that action on the EDP - you were forced to
> live with it.
> In a live situation where you may work with a loop of two
> minutes
> length this would result in a forced multiply for two more
> minutes -
> instead of the intended cutting down the loop to just one
> cycle to
> keep the musical flow up. I just hated that function and I
> never found
> out a way to disable it.
> 
> So I must say that I'm generally more happy with the Mobius
> way of
> multiplying. I used to keep my own script that waits until
> the next
> cycle cusp before starting the Multiply, but since that
> doesn't work
> with the Lame Duck Period I have repelled back to stock
> Mobius
> multiplying now. I found that it is actually possible to
> not have that
> dreadful extra cycle added; you have to kick the Multiply
> just a
> fraction before the next quantize value and then you have
> to go out of
> Multiply Mode with Overdub. Someone on the Mobius list
> posted that
> advice.
> 
> I also love the Instant Multiply/Devide. I always keep
> pedals and hand
> buttons for x2, x3 and x4. That makes it possible to cut
> down or
> increase loop lengths to musically interesting relations in
> just a
> second. My favorite is to copy a loop length, then go x3
> and then /2
> (or x4 and /3). Apply to one of two, or more, parallel
> loops for poly
> rhythm cooking. ;-)
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> 
> 


      

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:52 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> also the fact that you can also have separate "tracks" of different lengths at will instead of being always tighted up to a loop is a big advantage and not always so dependent on Multiply !

I'm not sure I understand what you are meaning here? "Tracks" in a
looper....? Do you mean very long loops? If so - Yes, that's great to
have! I usually set them up with a couple of quick Multiply By Four
hits and then Overdub.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Hi,
** Tickets are now on sale for the Antwerp festival **=20

The number of tickets is limited so I would advise to buy tickets online =
or
make a reservation via the Arenberg schouwburg. See the festival website =
for
all the details including info about hotels, venue etc.=20

http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp=20

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I'm so frustrated... living in Belgium, almost never going abroad, and 
yet I'm not in Belgium that day...
I thought of buying my ticket anyhow in order to support the event, but 
since I read about limited tickets, that would be a shame.
So hurry up Euroloopfest enthusiasts. First 2 who are still awake and 
send me an email ( info at gordius dot be ) get a free ticket - just 
mention your postal address, and promise to attend the festival :-)  !

Good luck with the event, Sjaak !

Sjaak wrote:
> Hi,
> ** Tickets are now on sale for the Antwerp festival ** 
>
> The number of tickets is limited so I would advise to buy tickets online or
> make a reservation via the Arenberg schouwburg. See the festival website for
> all the details including info about hotels, venue etc. 
>
> http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp 
>
> ---
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> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
>
>
>
>   

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> So hurry up Euroloopfest enthusiasts. First 2 who are still awake and 
> send me an email ( info at gordius dot be ) get a free ticket - just 
> mention your postal address, and promise to attend the festival :-)  !

That is very generous of you Xavier. Thanks for supporting this wonderful=
 community and festival!

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> This will be fixed someday.  Unfortunately I've become involved
> in an online game that takes a lot of time :-)
>
> Jeff
>
>
Tell me about it... Im still hooked on WoW... I scrapped a high level alt
Orc cos he was taking too much work, guild biz and all that.. now Im just
making playing low level alts for fun...



But thanks for the explanation,mobius/edp comparison, it wasnt quite what I
was asking, but my god what an interesting read...

then there was this

When you want to cut down the length of a loop with
> Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too short time
> between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want to tell it
> that you want to "multiply for a number of cycles"
>

>Aargh! Yes, that bugs me no end, too.

>I've found the best way round it is to have a separate
Sus-Unrounded-Multiply switch on my FCB, as well as a 'normal' multiply.


But... 1. a Sus-Unrounded-Multiply doesnt do a normal mult??? It makes the
tiny shory buzzing loops doesnt it? so how can it be a replacement for a
multiply... and getting that Milti Increase thing accidentaly... Isnt that
just to press UNDO, and its gone? I dunno...



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This will be fixed someday. =A0Unfortunately I&#39;ve become involved<br>
in an online game that takes a lot of time :-)<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>Tell me about it... Im still hooked on WoW...=
 I scrapped a high level alt Orc cos he was taking too much work, guild biz=
 and all that.. now Im just making playing low level alts for fun... <br>

<br><br><br>But thanks for the explanation,mobius/edp comparison, it wasnt =
quite what I was asking, but my god what an interesting read... <br><br>the=
n there was this<br><div class=3D"im"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 2=
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<div>When you want to cut down the length of a loop with<br>

Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too short time<br>
between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want to tell it<br>
that you want to &quot;multiply for a number of cycles&quot;</div></blockqu=
ote></div><br></div><div>&gt;Aargh! Yes, that bugs me no end, too.=A0</div>=
<div><br></div><div>&gt;I&#39;ve found the best way round it is to have a s=
eparate Sus-Unrounded-Multiply switch on my FCB, as well as a &#39;normal&#=
39; multiply.=A0</div>


<div><br><br>But... 1. a Sus-Unrounded-Multiply doesnt do a normal mult??? =
It makes the tiny shory buzzing loops doesnt it? so how can it be a replace=
ment for a multiply... and getting that Milti Increase thing accidentaly...=
 Isnt that just to press UNDO, and its gone? I dunno...<br>

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mark francombe wrote:

> then there was this
> 
>     When you want to cut down the length of a loop with
>     Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too short time
>     between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want to tell it
>     that you want to "multiply for a number of cycles"
> 
> 
>  >Aargh! Yes, that bugs me no end, too. 
> 
>  >I've found the best way round it is to have a separate 
> Sus-Unrounded-Multiply switch on my FCB, as well as a 'normal' multiply. 
> 
> 
> But... 1. a Sus-Unrounded-Multiply doesnt do a normal mult??? It makes 
> the tiny shory buzzing loops doesnt it? so how can it be a replacement 
> for a multiply... and getting that Milti Increase thing accidentaly... 
> Isnt that just to press UNDO, and its gone? I dunno...
> 
> 

I don't know what they're on about either :-)

andy

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Mark,

Sus-Unrounded-Multiply doesnt do a normal mult???

It makes the tiny shory buzzing loops doesnt it?


That depends on how long you press the button! ;-)


> so how can it be a replacement for a multiply


It's a replacement for ending a multiply with record, which is the 'normal'
way of doing an unrounded-multiply. But I often seem to accidentally press
multiply a second time instead of record and end up in multiincrease. Or
something. And no, I don't seem to (always) be able to get out of it by
undoing. No doubt due to other EDP settings (quantize, reverse or feedback
level?) and a simple lack of foot coordination. ;-)

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">Mark,</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex;">Sus-Unrounded-Multiply doesnt do a normal mult???=
=A0</blockquote>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">It makes the tiny shory buzzing loops doesn=
t it? </blockquote><div><br></div><div>That depends on how long you press t=
he button! ;-)=A0<br>
</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">so how can it be a repl=
acement for a multiply</blockquote></div><br><div>It&#39;s a replacement fo=
r ending a multiply with record, which is the &#39;normal&#39; way of doing=
 an unrounded-multiply. But I often seem to accidentally press multiply a s=
econd time instead of record and end up in multiincrease. Or something. And=
 no, I don&#39;t seem to (always) be able to get out of it by undoing. No d=
oubt due to other EDP settings (quantize, reverse or feedback level?) and a=
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<div><br></div><div>Ian</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

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>> This will be fixed someday. =C2=A0Unfortunately I've become involved
>> in an online game that takes a lot of time :-)
>>
>> Jeff
>>

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wr=
ote:

>
> Tell me about it... Im still hooked on WoW...


My fav is Dirt Bike 1.0. Anyone remembering that game?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
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A friend of mine pointed me to this today

SUPER encoder.
http://www.erightsoft.com/S6Kg1.html

Looks pretty powerful and it's FREE.

-- 
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hello all,



i've got a behringer fcb 1010 midi pedal that sends out midi notes to
control the the echoplex's function....problem i'm having is the midi
pedals reseting the echoplex's parameters when i press certain
presets (notes) on the fcb 1010. 



example......when i do a long press on the fcb thats set to triger the
multiply button to reset all loops ....i lose the echoplex's prarameter
coustom presets i tweeked.

same when i press the next loop triger. looks like it's reseting the parameters.


like the fcb to work like the echoplex's floorboard as possible and not lose the parameters i set up.


please help



thank you 

brian

electric bird noise

no more stars records.com


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<font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">hello all,<br>

<br>

i've got a behringer fcb 1010 midi pedal that sends out midi notes to
control the the echoplex's function....problem i'm having is the midi
pedals reseting the echoplex's parameters when i press certain
presets (notes) on the fcb 1010. <br>

<br>

example......when i do a long press on the fcb thats set to triger the
multiply button to reset all loops ....i lose the echoplex's prarameter
coustom presets i tweeked.<br>

same when i press the next loop triger. looks like it's reseting the parameters.<br>

<br>
like the fcb to work like the echoplex's floorboard as possible and not lose the parameters i set up.<br>
<br>

please help<br>

<br>

thank you <br>

brian<br>
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I just updated the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival Web site =
to include links to all three prior festival CDs and and links to stream =
all of the MP3s.

Check it out.

http://www.b-cimf.com (bottom of page)

16 days to...no down beat! :)

Kris


Kris Hartung
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just updated the Boise Creative and =
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Hi Brian,

I had the same problem when I first got my fcb. When deciding what kind of
message to send (when the select button is lit in the programming mode)  I
made it so that only button 10 was blinking and buttons 1 -9 were off, so
that only a direct midi note was sent and that no other types of commands
were activated.  A long press will turn the light off.

I hope I was clear and that it helps.

Jack

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM, <enat21213@aol.com> wrote:

> hello all,
>
> i've got a behringer fcb 1010 midi pedal that sends out midi notes to
> control the the echoplex's function....problem i'm having is the midi pedals
> reseting the echoplex's parameters when i press certain presets (notes) on
> the fcb 1010.
>
> example......when i do a long press on the fcb thats set to triger the
> multiply button to reset all loops ....i lose the echoplex's prarameter
> coustom presets i tweeked.
> same when i press the next loop triger. looks like it's reseting the
> parameters.
>
> like the fcb to work like the echoplex's floorboard as possible and not
> lose the parameters i set up.
>
> please help
>
> thank you
> brian
>
> electric bird noise
>
> no more stars records.com
>
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Hi Brian,<br><br>I had the same problem when I first got my fcb. When decid=
ing what kind of message to send (when the select button is lit in the prog=
ramming mode)=A0 I made it so that only button 10 was blinking and buttons =
1 -9 were off, so that only a direct midi note was sent and that no other t=
ypes of commands were activated.=A0 A long press will turn the light off.<b=
r>
<br>I hope I was clear and that it helps.<br><br>Jack<br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:enat21213@aol.com">enat21213@aol.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 20=
4, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">hello all,<br>

<br>

i&#39;ve got a behringer fcb 1010 midi pedal that sends out midi notes to
control the the echoplex&#39;s function....problem i&#39;m having is the mi=
di
pedals reseting the echoplex&#39;s parameters when i press certain
presets (notes) on the fcb 1010. <br>

<br>

example......when i do a long press on the fcb thats set to triger the
multiply button to reset all loops ....i lose the echoplex&#39;s prarameter
coustom presets i tweeked.<br>

same when i press the next loop triger. looks like it&#39;s reseting the pa=
rameters.<br>

<br>
like the fcb to work like the echoplex&#39;s floorboard as possible and not=
 lose the parameters i set up.<br>
<br>

please help<br>

<br>

thank you <br>

brian<br>
<br>
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What a beautiful daydream.....

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Awesome..thank you Kris. can't to hear this year's fest!

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> I just updated the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival Web 
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This is how you can build a foot control board that sends computer key
strokes. Could work fine with a laptop looper, like Mobius, that can
assign functions to key strokes.

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/07/sexy-diy-footswitch-for-music-using-the-brain-of-a-usb-qwerty-keyboard/

I just wish I would know exactly when my recent FCB1010 will crap out,
so I could start building something like this in advance to have it
ready to take over on Crap-Out Day.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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you then may enter the ugliest foot-controller of the livelooping=20
shoe-gazing world contest

Calude

Per Boysen a =C3=A9crit :
> This is how you can build a foot control board that sends computer key
> strokes. Could work fine with a laptop looper, like Mobius, that can
> assign functions to key strokes.
>=20
> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/07/sexy-diy-footswitch-for-music-=
using-the-brain-of-a-usb-qwerty-keyboard/
>=20
> I just wish I would know exactly when my recent FCB1010 will crap out,
> so I could start building something like this in advance to have it
> ready to take over on Crap-Out Day.
>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
>=20
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>=20
>=20
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Who cares? It's about the music.

Per



On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:
> you then may enter the ugliest foot-controller of the livelooping
> shoe-gazing world contest
>
> Calude
>
> Per Boysen a =C3=A9crit :
>>
>> This is how you can build a foot control board that sends computer key
>> strokes. Could work fine with a laptop looper, like Mobius, that can
>> assign functions to key strokes.
>>
>>
>> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/04/07/sexy-diy-footswitch-for-music-u=
sing-the-brain-of-a-usb-qwerty-keyboard/
>>
>> I just wish I would know exactly when my recent FCB1010 will crap out,
>> so I could start building something like this in advance to have it
>> ready to take over on Crap-Out Day.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Hi LD,

This is Roberto Zorzi Japan tour information.
http://www.robertozorzi.com/

He come to Japan in this month:

20th April
Super Deluxe,Tokyo
http://www.super-deluxe.com/

23rd April
Penguin House, Tokyo
http://www3.plala.or.jp/FREEDOM/PENGUIN.htm

24th April
Big Apple, Kobe
http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/i/big-apple/

26th April
Urban Guild,Kyoto
http://urbanguild.net/



I will play with him on 23rd and 24th April.
Mand Man (Hideki Nakanishi) will play with him on 26th.


  Regards

  Sunao
http://www.myspace.com/sunao


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Hey gang, I have posted a video I put together from a Ninjam session I did 
with Rainer Straschill recently.
All gratuitous video fx and clashing color schemes are entirely my fault. It 
was a gas and I thank Rainer for inviting me.

http://www.vimeo.com/4063396

I hope you enjoy Jazzscapes (my son named it).

peace

Jeff

Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is strange.
The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll be.
Allen Steele
Galaxy Blues

http://jeffduke.org/
http://virb.com/jeffduke
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899
http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ 

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excellent stuff.. thanks for sharing.. the addition of video is  
cool... and from the video I can tell we are listening to Rainer's  
mix.. :)

peace
-cpr

Quoting Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>:

> Hey gang, I have posted a video I put together from a Ninjam session I
> did with Rainer Straschill recently.
> All gratuitous video fx and clashing color schemes are entirely my
> fault. It was a gas and I thank Rainer for inviting me.
>
> http://www.vimeo.com/4063396
>
> I hope you enjoy Jazzscapes (my son named it).
>
> peace
>
> Jeff
>
> Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is strange.
> The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll be.
> Allen Steele
> Galaxy Blues
>
> http://jeffduke.org/
> http://virb.com/jeffduke
> http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
> http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/
> http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
> http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899
> http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/


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Good listening! I did mix in some from the audio from his video in parts. I 
now hear that you can clearly hear him pickup the trombone off of the stand. 
Ah wll, it was the most complex audio/video project I had tried to date. It 
kind of adds to the charm. Very difficult to sync! I got it close. :)

best,

Jeff

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> excellent stuff.. thanks for sharing.. the addition of video is  cool... 
> and from the video I can tell we are listening to Rainer's  mix.. :)
>
> peace
> -cpr
>
> Quoting Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>:
>
>> Hey gang, I have posted a video I put together from a Ninjam session I
>> did with Rainer Straschill recently.
>> All gratuitous video fx and clashing color schemes are entirely my
>> fault. It was a gas and I thank Rainer for inviting me.
>>
>> http://www.vimeo.com/4063396
>>
>> I hope you enjoy Jazzscapes (my son named it).
>>
>> peace
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is strange.
>> The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll be.
>> Allen Steele
>> Galaxy Blues
>>
>> http://jeffduke.org/
>> http://virb.com/jeffduke
>> http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
>> http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899
>> http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/
>
>
> 

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great. since i was looking for a compressor win-based for
arxiving the big movs my pics camera produces.

2009/4/8 Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com>

> A friend of mine pointed me to this today
>
> SUPER encoder.
> http://www.erightsoft.com/S6Kg1.html
>
> Looks pretty powerful and it's FREE.
>
> --
> -==-=-=-
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great. since i was looking for a compressor win-based for<br>arxiving the b=
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SUPER encoder.<br>
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 worked! thanks!

one more question.....looks as though when i go and reset the loops and then press either the insert function or the mute function on the fcb it resets the parameters. only the insert and mute.... if i long press these preset(insert or mute) the edps led shows cycling though the parameters(p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 p10 p11 p12 p13 p14 p15) ...then it resets the parameters.

can't figure it out.

thanks in advance!

brian

electric bird noise

no more stars records.com




 


 

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From: Jack Schultz <jackthebassplayer@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:34 pm
Subject: Re: echoplex and midi controler....









Hi Brian,

I had the same problem when I first got my fcb. When deciding what kind of message to send (when the select button is lit in the programming mode)? I made it so that only button 10 was blinking and buttons 1 -9 were off, so that only a direct midi note was sent and that no other types of commands were activated.? A long press will turn the light off.


I hope I was clear and that it helps.

Jack


On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM,  <enat21213@aol.com> wrote:


hello all,





i've got a behringer fcb 1010 midi pedal that sends out midi notes to
control the the echoplex's function....problem i'm having is the midi
pedals reseting the echoplex's parameters when i press certain
presets (notes) on the fcb 1010. 





example......when i do a long press on the fcb thats set to triger the
multiply button to reset all loops ....i lose the echoplex's prarameter
coustom presets i tweeked.


same when i press the next loop triger. looks like it's reseting the parameters.




like the fcb to work like the echoplex's floorboard as possible and not lose the parameters i set up.




please help





thank you 


brian



electric bird noise



no more stars records.com




 


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<div> worked! thanks!<br>
<br>
<font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">one more question.....looks as though when i go and reset the loops and then press either the insert function or the mute function on the fcb it resets the parameters. only the insert and mute.... if i long press these preset(insert or mute) the edps led shows cycling though the parameters(p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 p10 p11 p12 p13 p14 p15) ...then it resets the parameters.<br>
<br>
can't figure it out.<br>
<br>
thanks in advance!<br>
<br>
brian<br>
<br>
electric bird noise<br>
<br>
no more stars records.com<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>
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Hi Brian,<br>
<br>
I had the same problem when I first got my fcb. When deciding what kind of message to send (when the select button is lit in the programming mode)&nbsp; I made it so that only button 10 was blinking and buttons 1 -9 were off, so that only a direct midi note was sent and that no other types of commands were activated.&nbsp; A long press will turn the light off.<br>

<br>
I hope I was clear and that it helps.<br>
<br>
Jack<br>
<br>

<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM,  <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:enat21213@aol.com">enat21213@aol.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">hello all,<br>


<br>


i've got a behringer fcb 1010 midi pedal that sends out midi notes to
control the the echoplex's function....problem i'm having is the midi
pedals reseting the echoplex's parameters when i press certain
presets (notes) on the fcb 1010. <br>


<br>


example......when i do a long press on the fcb thats set to triger the
multiply button to reset all loops ....i lose the echoplex's prarameter
coustom presets i tweeked.<br>


same when i press the next loop triger. looks like it's reseting the parameters.<br>


<br>

like the fcb to work like the echoplex's floorboard as possible and not lose the parameters i set up.<br>

<br>


please help<br>


<br>


thank you <br>


brian<br>

<br>

electric bird noise<br>

<br>

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I enjoyed that...though I am a total sucker for making it up on the fly...  :)


Jamming with someone halfway across the globe? 

What a wonderful idea..



Doug H

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---- Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote: 
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> with Rainer Straschill recently.
> All gratuitous video fx and clashing color schemes are entirely my fault. It 
> was a gas and I thank Rainer for inviting me.
> 
> http://www.vimeo.com/4063396
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> 
> peace
> 
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> 
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Its true that insert cycles down thru the presets and Mute cycles up
thru the presets... its a handy shortcut... but that shouldnt reset
anything...

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:48 PM,  <enat21213@aol.com> wrote:
> worked! thanks!
>
> one more question.....looks as though when i go and reset the loops and t=
hen
> press either the insert function or the mute function on the fcb it reset=
s
> the parameters. only the insert and mute.... if i long press these
> preset(insert or mute) the edps led shows cycling though the parameters(p=
1
> p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 p10 p11 p12 p13 p14 p15) ...then it resets the
> parameters.
>
> can't figure it out.
>
> thanks in advance!
>
> brian
>
> electric bird noise
>
> no more stars records.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Schultz <jackthebassplayer@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:34 pm
> Subject: Re: echoplex and midi controler....
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> I had the same problem when I first got my fcb. When deciding what kind o=
f
> message to send (when the select button is lit in the programming mode)=
=A0 I
> made it so that only button 10 was blinking and buttons 1 -9 were off, so
> that only a direct midi note was sent and that no other types of commands
> were activated.=A0 A long press will turn the light off.
>
> I hope I was clear and that it helps.
>
> Jack
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM, <enat21213@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> hello all,
>>
>> i've got a behringer fcb 1010 midi pedal that sends out midi notes to
>> control the the echoplex's function....problem i'm having is the midi pe=
dals
>> reseting the echoplex's parameters when i press certain presets (notes) =
on
>> the fcb 1010.
>>
>> example......when i do a long press on the fcb thats set to triger the
>> multiply button to reset all loops ....i lose the echoplex's prarameter
>> coustom presets i tweeked.
>> same when i press the next loop triger. looks like it's reseting the
>> parameters.
>>
>> like the fcb to work like the echoplex's floorboard as possible and not
>> lose the parameters i set up.
>>
>> please help
>>
>> thank you
>> brian
>>
>> electric bird noise
>>
>> no more stars records.com
>>
>> ________________________________
>> New Deals on Dell Netbooks - Now starting at $299
>
> ________________________________
> New Deals on Dell Netbooks - Now starting at $299



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Back in 2004, I put out two 3" CDs, called "Charcoal" and "Yellow".
These recordings are now available for free at www.ribosomemusic.com.
These 256k mp3s include ID3 tags, album art and all those things that
make them work smoothly with portable music players.

In the coming months, they'll also be released through Itunes, Amazon
mp3, Emusic and other sites through Edgetone Records.

Charcoal was originally recorded in 1999, and constructed completely
out of samples of Davignon's 1998 cd, "5 Spots". Mysterious, emotive
and paranoid, it gives the listener an experience that is both
immersive and mildly abrasive.
http://www.ribosomemusic.com/charcoal.html

A love letter to tape decay, "Yellow" swims in murky filtered ambient
sounds, navigating from swollen drones to loose nostalgic synthesizer
melodies. The sounds and techniques used in "Yellow" are a precursor
to Davignon's unique drum machine work as heard in the CDs "Bwoo" and
"SoftWetFish".
http://www.ribosomemusic.com/yellow.html

If you're going to download the whole things, please choose the zip
files so as to help with my monthly bandwidth limitations.

Thanks for listening!

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com

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mi like ee
hope U like ee too:



http://lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix

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absolutely necessary.
well done, Kris.


2009/4/9 Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com>

>  I just updated the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival Web site
> to include links to all three prior festival CDs and and links to stream all
> of the MP3s.
>
> Check it out.
>
> http://www.b-cimf.com (bottom of page)
>
> 16 days to...no down beat! :)
>
> Kris
>
>
> Kris Hartung
> Boise Creative & Improvised Music Festival (2009)
> Event Coordinator and Artistic Director
> http://b-cimf.com
>
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-Improvised-Music-Festival/37918746335
> http://www.myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival
> info@krispenhartung.com
> 1-208-724-5603
>



-- 
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

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absolutely necessary.<br>well done, Kris.<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">2009/4/9 Krispen Hartung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:info@=
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I just updated the Boise Creative and =
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CDs and and links to stream all of the MP3s.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Check it out.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><a href=3D"http://www.b-cimf.com" targ=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">16 days to...no down beat! :)</font></=
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Kris</font></div>
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Kris Hartung<br>Boise Creative &amp; I=
mprovised=20
Music Festival (2009)<br>Event Coordinator and Artistic Director<br><a href=
=3D"http://b-cimf.com" target=3D"_blank">http://b-cimf.com</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Creative-and-Improvised-Music-Festi=
val/37918746335" target=3D"_blank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boise-Crea=
tive-and-Improvised-Music-Festival/37918746335</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/boiseexperimentalmusicfestival" target=3D=
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1-208-724-5603</font></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at Blogger:=
 <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.blogspot.com<=
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This is wonderful Kris, thanks, what a range of experiences!=20

J
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  I just updated the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival Web =
site to include links to all three prior festival CDs and and links to =
stream all of the MP3s.

  Check it out.

  http://www.b-cimf.com (bottom of page)

  16 days to...no down beat! :)

  Kris


  Kris Hartung
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Very nice Matt, enjoying them now with espresso! Thanks!

Jeff

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> Back in 2004, I put out two 3" CDs, called "Charcoal" and "Yellow".
> These recordings are now available for free at www.ribosomemusic.com.
> These 256k mp3s include ID3 tags, album art and all those things that
> make them work smoothly with portable music players.
> 
> In the coming months, they'll also be released through Itunes, Amazon
> mp3, Emusic and other sites through Edgetone Records.
> 
> Charcoal was originally recorded in 1999, and constructed completely
> out of samples of Davignon's 1998 cd, "5 Spots". Mysterious, emotive
> and paranoid, it gives the listener an experience that is both
> immersive and mildly abrasive.
> http://www.ribosomemusic.com/charcoal.html
> 
> A love letter to tape decay, "Yellow" swims in murky filtered ambient
> sounds, navigating from swollen drones to loose nostalgic synthesizer
> melodies. The sounds and techniques used in "Yellow" are a precursor
> to Davignon's unique drum machine work as heard in the CDs "Bwoo" and
> "SoftWetFish".
> http://www.ribosomemusic.com/yellow.html
> 
> If you're going to download the whole things, please choose the zip
> files so as to help with my monthly bandwidth limitations.
> 
> Thanks for listening!
> 
> Matt Davignon
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> 
>

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> 2009/4/9 Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com>
>>
>> I just updated the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival Web site
>> to include links to all=C2=A0three prior=C2=A0festival CDs and and links=
 to stream all
>> of the MP3s.
>>
>> Check it out.
>>
>> http://www.b-cimf.com=C2=A0(bottom of page)


What a nice thing to share! Thanks!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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It's a massive amount of music!

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> 2009/4/9 Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com>
>>
>> I just updated the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival Web site
>> to include links to all three prior festival CDs and and links to stream 
>> all
>> of the MP3s.
>>
>> Check it out.
>>
>> http://www.b-cimf.com (bottom of page)


What a nice thing to share! Thanks!

Greetings from Sweden

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On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com> w=
rote:
> I just updated the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival Web site =
to
> include links to all=A0three prior=A0festival CDs and and links to stream=
 all of
> the MP3s.
>
> http://www.b-cimf.com=A0(bottom of page)

Very nice!


> 16 days to...no down beat! :)

I like to save all my down beats til the end. :)

--=20
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090409.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #627                April 9, 2009.

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on The Ricochet
Gathering.  The Featured CD at Midnight was Trilogy by Jozef Skrzek,
Paul Lawler, and Steve Schroyder on the Ricochet Dream label.

The Ricochet Gathering:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#apr


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Picodreamics         Erotronic            Fantasynth (WOTR)
Shalmaneser          Corpsicle Pulse      Ticker (Doubtful Palace)
Syndromeda           Inside the           The Twilight Connection
                       Lophopphora          (Ricochet Dream)
Robert Carty         Attracting the Light Starlight Volume 1 (Deep Sky)
Skrzek, Lawler, and  Z DNA Oceanu         Trilogy (Ricochet Dream)
  Schroyder

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Skrzek, Lawler, and  Wyspa                Trilogy (Ricochet Dream)
  Schroyder
Skrzek, Lawler, and  Tug of Love          Trilogy (Ricochet Dream)
  Schroyder
Skrzek, Lawler, and  Tuscan Sunset        Trilogy (Ricochet Dream)
  Schroyder
Skrzek, Lawler, and  Nasze Miejsce        Trilogy (Ricochet Dream)
  Schroyder
Skrzek, Lawler, and  Montana              Trilogy (Ricochet Dream)
  Schroyder

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on the
Ricochet Gathering.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be Space Cowboys
by Broekhuis, Keller, Schonwalder, Spyra, and Fox on the Ricochet Dream
label.


Bill
=======================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in
Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on
93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD
Digital Radio on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels
RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml
Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls
To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This
Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels
Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com
RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml
Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml

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hey all,

I don't know when this started, but when I send audio directly from
ableton live through my firebox to my speakers, it sounds considerably
better than when i send it comp>kaoss pad kp3> comp > speakers.
Especially noticeable is the loss of most of the bass.

Could this signal damaged hardware? I just replaced the cables to no
effect. Or is this a known issue of the kp3's output? If so, any way
to compensate?

thanks very much for any help with this!

-Nick

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hi,

I'm back on the list after years of abscence.  I'm Dirk and have been 
fascinated with loops since day one.
Since 1984 I made music under my pseudonym vidnaObmana till 2005 when 
I felt that the story was told.  Since then I've been expanding my 
universe under the fear falls burning banner creating more heavy and 
guitar-oriented looped drones.  Last year I finally released my most 
personal album 'microphonics I-V' under my own name on the Dutch 
tonefloat label (180gram vinyl).
It's the microphonics that stripped off all mult-tracking and complex 
looping to a minimal set-up of a selection of Boss pedals, a 
fantastic Gibson Les Paul guitar and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe tube amplifier.

Looking forward to share thoughts and read the other experiences...

Dirk.



dirk serries : microphonics I - V
180gr vinyl, tonefloat november 2009
www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics

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WOW! welcome back!
i just lov the >FEARFALLSBURNING< stuff.
cant wait to hear more of yer music.
LesPaul-Loop-Amp
thats how i roll too.
S T A N O S A U R

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>hi,
>
>I'm back on the list after years of abscence.  I'm Dirk and have been 
>fascinated with loops since day one.
>Since 1984 I made music under my pseudonym vidnaObmana till 2005 when 
>I felt that the story was told.  Since then I've been expanding my 
>universe under the fear falls burning banner creating more heavy and 
>guitar-oriented looped drones.  Last year I finally released my most 
>personal album 'microphonics I-V' under my own name on the Dutch 
>tonefloat label (180gram vinyl).
>It's the microphonics that stripped off all mult-tracking and complex 
>looping to a minimal set-up of a selection of Boss pedals, a 
>fantastic Gibson Les Paul guitar and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe tube amplifier.
>
>Looking forward to share thoughts and read the other experiences...
>
>Dirk.
>
>
>
>dirk serries : microphonics I - V
>180gr vinyl, tonefloat november 2009
>www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics
>

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I have a Kaoss pad KP3 that I used in my drum machine setup for a
while. I eventually removed it, and it sounds like your issues may be
similar to mine.

I found that the unit had a really high noise floor. At the same time,
it clipped at much lower levels than the rest of my equipment. It was
really hard to find a decent volume level where the sound wasn't knee
deep in hiss.

Is that what you're talking about?

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
> hey all,
>
> I don't know when this started, but when I send audio directly from
> ableton live through my firebox to my speakers, it sounds considerably
> better than when i send it comp>kaoss pad kp3> comp > speakers.
> Especially noticeable is the loss of most of the bass.
>
> Could this signal damaged hardware? I just replaced the cables to no
> effect. Or is this a known issue of the kp3's output? If so, any way
> to compensate?
>
> thanks very much for any help with this!
>
> -Nick
>
>

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Welcome back, Dirk and ...see you in Antwerp !

Fabio
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Il giorno 10/apr/09, alle ore 23:30, microphonics <microphonics@vidnaobmana.be 
 > ha scritto:

> hi,
>
> I'm back on the list after years of abscence.  I'm Dirk and have  
> been fascinated with loops since day one.
> Since 1984 I made music under my pseudonym vidnaObmana till 2005  
> when I felt that the story was told.  Since then I've been expanding  
> my universe under the fear falls burning banner creating more heavy  
> and guitar-oriented looped drones.  Last year I finally released my  
> most personal album 'microphonics I-V' under my own name on the  
> Dutch tonefloat label (180gram vinyl).
> It's the microphonics that stripped off all mult-tracking and  
> complex looping to a minimal set-up of a selection of Boss pedals, a  
> fantastic Gibson Les Paul guitar and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe tube  
> amplifier.
>
> Looking forward to share thoughts and read the other experiences...
>
> Dirk.
>
>
>
> dirk serries : microphonics I - V
> 180gr vinyl, tonefloat november 2009
> www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics
>

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I think that sounds similar. Audio that I route through it seems to
lose much of the lower frequency range and the rest feels "flattened"
to me.

i'd really like to find a workaround for this, as the kp3 is by far my
favorite piece of effects hardware i have used due to its wide variety
of functions and touchscreen.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a Kaoss pad KP3 that I used in my drum machine setup for a
> while. I eventually removed it, and it sounds like your issues may be
> similar to mine.
>
> I found that the unit had a really high noise floor. At the same time,
> it clipped at much lower levels than the rest of my equipment. It was
> really hard to find a decent volume level where the sound wasn't knee
> deep in hiss.
>
> Is that what you're talking about?
>
> Matt Davignon
> www.ribosomemusic.com
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hey all,
>>
>> I don't know when this started, but when I send audio directly from
>> ableton live through my firebox to my speakers, it sounds considerably
>> better than when i send it comp>kaoss pad kp3> comp > speakers.
>> Especially noticeable is the loss of most of the bass.
>>
>> Could this signal damaged hardware? I just replaced the cables to no
>> effect. Or is this a known issue of the kp3's output? If so, any way
>> to compensate?
>>
>> thanks very much for any help with this!
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>>
>
>

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When Nels Cline started using a Kaoss pad live (not sure which model), I 
was really disappointed as his tone seemed to lose a lot of body. Even 
though the eight-bit (or is it six-bit??) 16-second delay he depends on 
has very low fidelity too, it never seemed to thin things out like the KP.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> I think that sounds similar. Audio that I route through it seems to
> lose much of the lower frequency range and the rest feels "flattened"
> to me.

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I can only guess that KP3 must be a particularly bad model of Kaoss
Pad, or else the line wouldn't be as popular as it is. Kaoss Pad
experts?

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that sounds similar. Audio that I route through it seems to
> lose much of the lower frequency range and the rest feels "flattened"
> to me.
>
> i'd really like to find a workaround for this, as the kp3 is by far my
> favorite piece of effects hardware i have used due to its wide variety
> of functions and touchscreen.
>

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On Apr 10, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Matt Davignon wrote:

>  Kaoss Pad
> experts?

Not anywhere near expertness, I have the KP 1 and KP 2, I get the  
feeling they function better as part of an fx send/return loop.
And depending on your set-up you may need to use a line level shifter  
of some sort to run the signal thru the KP at -10dbv then send it  
back out to the main chain at +4dbu.


regards

BobC



http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j  Flickr set

http://www.youtube.com/tynego

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What I have noticed on my kp2 is a ground noise in some fxs, like  
delay and reverb.
And it's true..., controlling the level it's not so easy, but KP it's  
such a good tool...

Fabio


Il giorno 11/apr/09, alle ore 00:53, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com 
 > ha scritto:

> I can only guess that KP3 must be a particularly bad model of Kaoss
> Pad, or else the line wouldn't be as popular as it is. Kaoss Pad
> experts?
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think that sounds similar. Audio that I route through it seems to
>> lose much of the lower frequency range and the rest feels "flattened"
>> to me.
>>
>> i'd really like to find a workaround for this, as the kp3 is by far  
>> my
>> favorite piece of effects hardware i have used due to its wide  
>> variety
>> of functions and touchscreen.
>>
>

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Yikes, I could play with this for a long long time, Its about as accessible
as I've seen an interactive music toy be.
Thanks Stan
 Bill
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mi like ee
hope U like ee too:



http://lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix

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hi-

> Since 1984 I made music under my pseudonym vidnaObmana till 2005  
> when I felt that the story was told.  Since then I've been expanding  
> my universe under the fear falls burning banner creating more heavy  
> and guitar-oriented looped drones.  Last year I finally released my  
> most personal album 'microphonics I-V' under my own name on the  
> Dutch tonefloat label (180gram vinyl).

awesome!! i loved the VO stuff and "he spoke in dead tongues" was  
stuck on repeat for a half a year at my house!!

very cool to see you on the list!

- tyler / informatik
==============

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I am going to buy a mic tomorrow and I need it to be 100$ or less. I am 
going to use it for looping percussion, found sounds, you know anything that 
might sound interesting run through fx and loops. There are so many list at 
MF I just don't know where to start.I am not looking for perfection just ok. 
Any general/specific ideas?

thanks,

jeff 

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Shure SM57 is a good all around utility microphone.  They are also easy to 
find on the used market.

Bob

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k

I love the concept of Viral Artistry.

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do you think that'd help significantly? if so, how would i go about doing t=
hat?

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 4:18 PM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 10, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Matt Davignon wrote:
>
>> =A0Kaoss Pad
>> experts?
>
> Not anywhere near expertness, I have the KP 1 and KP 2, I get the feeling
> they function better as part of an fx send/return loop.
> And depending on your set-up you may need to use a line level shifter of
> some sort to run the signal thru the KP at -10dbv then send it back out t=
o
> the main chain at +4dbu.
>
>
> regards
>
> BobC
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> http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j =A0Flickr set
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> http://www.youtube.com/tynego
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THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH:                      http://soundscapes.us/amfm
=======================================================================
My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, April 11 at 6:00 am
(EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00), less than two hours from now.  I will continue
the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in
Phase 1.  In Phase 3, I'll play new releases from Agents of Mercy and
M!indgames.  (Yes, that's a "!" not a "i" so it isn't a typo.)

I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the
show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an
eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with
Progressive Rock.

Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at
http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram

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Thank you all for your comments, friend requests on myspace and glad 
to be back.  I'll try my best to participate whenever I can and when 
time allows me.
Good luck on all your looping adventures,
Dirk.

dirk serries : microphonics I - V
180gr vinyl, tonefloat november 2009
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http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090411.html

The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts.  When I am at the helm, expect
to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an
eclectic mix of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.

                Show #150                April 11, 2009.

On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
isses came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
http://sequencesmagazine.com


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
VA [Michael Shipway] Intro                Sequences No. 6
VA [Venja]           Tranquility Spaces/  Sequences No. 6
                       Kashmir Moon
VA [Jim Kirkwood]    Requiem For a Mere   Sequences No. 6
                       Mortal
Ian Boddy            The Possibility of   Slide (DiN)
                       Existence
Ron Boots            Mea Culpa I          Mea Culpa (Groove)
Parallel Worlds      Urgency              Shade (DiN)


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Skala                Moon                 Tundra (none)
David Sun            Spectra              Joyful Spirit (Oreade)
Tinstad and Rumbel   Spring Maiden        Leap of Faith (Cheshire)


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Angents of Mercy     The Fading Ghosts    The Fading Ghosts of Twilight
                       of Twilight          (Foxtrot)
Angents of Mercy     The Unwanted         The Fading Ghosts of Twilight
                       Brother              (Foxtrot)
M!ndgames            The Statue           Actors In a Play (none)
Ozone Player         Kunnes               Tuonen Tytar II (Musea)
Yesterday's          Lost Without a Trace Tuonen Tytar II (Musea)


 * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.


Bill
======================================================================
Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00).
Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from
"Beyond the Barriers."
Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm
Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at
http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links
at the top right corner of the page or go directly to:
rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or
http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram
Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com
RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml
Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml
======================================================================
The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of
Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to
post playlists or track airplay?  The progdj list solves that problem.

The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD
and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio
programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO
SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any
hint of it.

The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label
personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing
what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the
radio? Go to the progdj list.

To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the
[Join This Group!] link.
======================================================================

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Hi Bill,

Can I send you some music for your show? I've been getting your mails for 
some time now and I keep meaning to ask you.

Thanks and take care.

Ricky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Fox" <billyfox@soundscapes.us>
To: <undisclosed-recipients:>
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 3:44 PM
Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for April 11, 2009.


> http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090411.html
>
> The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts.  When I am at the helm, expect
> to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an
> eclectic mix of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on
> WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
> every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
>
>                Show #150                April 11, 2009.
>
> On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
> magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
> isses came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
> thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
> slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
> http://sequencesmagazine.com
>
>
> Phase I/Space:
>
> ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
> ==================== ==================== ==============================
> VA [Michael Shipway] Intro                Sequences No. 6
> VA [Venja]           Tranquility Spaces/  Sequences No. 6
>                       Kashmir Moon
> VA [Jim Kirkwood]    Requiem For a Mere   Sequences No. 6
>                       Mortal
> Ian Boddy            The Possibility of   Slide (DiN)
>                       Existence
> Ron Boots            Mea Culpa I          Mea Culpa (Groove)
> Parallel Worlds      Urgency              Shade (DiN)
>
>
> Phase II/Eclectic:
>
> ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
> ==================== ==================== ==============================
> Skala                Moon                 Tundra (none)
> David Sun            Spectra              Joyful Spirit (Oreade)
> Tinstad and Rumbel   Spring Maiden        Leap of Faith (Cheshire)
>
>
> Phase III/Progressive Rock:
>
> ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
> ==================== ==================== ==============================
> Angents of Mercy     The Fading Ghosts    The Fading Ghosts of Twilight
>                       of Twilight          (Foxtrot)
> Angents of Mercy     The Unwanted         The Fading Ghosts of Twilight
>                       Brother              (Foxtrot)
> M!ndgames            The Statue           Actors In a Play (none)
> Ozone Player         Kunnes               Tuonen Tytar II (Musea)
> Yesterday's          Lost Without a Trace Tuonen Tytar II (Musea)
>
>
> * = excerpt
> ++ = Advanced CDR from artist
> VA = Various Artists (compilation)
>
> On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
> come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.
>
>
> Bill
> ======================================================================
> Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00).
> Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from
> "Beyond the Barriers."
> Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
> Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
> Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm
> Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at
> http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links
> at the top right corner of the page or go directly to:
> rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or
> http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram
> Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com
> RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml
> Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml
> ======================================================================
> The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of
> Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to
> post playlists or track airplay?  The progdj list solves that problem.
>
> The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD
> and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio
> programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO
> SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any
> hint of it.
>
> The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label
> personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing
> what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the
> radio? Go to the progdj list.
>
> To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the
> [Join This Group!] link.
> ======================================================================
>


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On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Nick wrote:

> if so, how would i go about doing that?


Some mixers and some amps have fx loop i/o and there are stand alone  
passive line level shifters.
So it would be comp>mixer>kp3>mixer>comp

But you may not need that.

Are you using the line out and then returning on line in?
If the line out is  -10db then no need for a level shifter.
What cables are you using? Might be worth trying 1/8 to 1/8 mono  
cables with 1/4 and rca adapters

Sorry I am not familiar with firebox.
You may need to check the mixing software to see if routing is ok and  
no pads active so the line i/o are getting full signal.
And there may be a way to tweak the routing in LIVE - are you putting  
the KP return on its own track?

Not clear what instruments you are trying to effect, but as you know,  
some of the kp3 patches have tone, frequency or cutoff as part of the  
x/y so that can attenuate the signal, you may need to adjust the fx  
depth or wet/dry mix and some patches may not be useful or only  
partially useful for what you are trying to do.

You might try using the Main out rather than the line out in which  
case you will need a level shifter, then return the signal on line in.
Or you can try:   line out to kp > kp headphone out to > line in or  
perhaps even route back into a front panel jack.

There are a lot of variables to play with.


BobC

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Because of the way I use my four-track decks (mixing w/the monitor 
section to control the mix of live playing w/looping tracks), I need to 
use the powered headphone out instead of the line out. Some decks have 
an unpowered monitor out, but my main squeeze does not. Obviously, sound 
people HATE the thought of me giving them a powered signal, though it's 
never caused any actual problems. I keep the output level very low, and 
am sure never to bump it up by accident.

But it seems like I'm putting things at risk. Is there some way for me 
to change the headphone level output to line level? Will a direct box 
effectively take care of the issue (maybe one w/ a 15db pad)?

tx,

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

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As far as inexpensive goes, I'm partial to the Octava MC012 mics.  I have a
Marshall 990 that sounds great.

Tony

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I am going to buy a mic tomorrow and I need it to be 100$ or less. I am 
going to use it for looping percussion, found sounds, you know anything that

might sound interesting run through fx and loops. There are so many list at 
MF I just don't know where to start.I am not looking for perfection just ok.

Any general/specific ideas?

thanks,

jeff 

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Ah, buggers, just checked the Beyer M201's price tag, which is a
factor of 3 to what you intend to spend...well, at least I can tell
you that they tend to be fairly cheap on ebay if you get them due to
them not being well known, so I recon you'd get a used one for less
than half of 300.

Apart from that, the SM57, which was mentioned, is always a good idea,
as is the SM58, which has the advantage that you get very cheap and
good copies of.
(The difference between the SM57 and SM58 being a different grille,
which leads to a vasatly differently pronounced proximity effect and a
slightly different frequency response. For that reason, the SM58 is
more apted to lead vocal pickup, while the SM57 mostly shines (and is
used even in expensive studio and sample capture sessions) for guitar
amps and snare drums).

I still hope you find a cheap M201, though...;)

              Rainer

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Thanks Tony and all, well I went to "da sto' for instant gratification and 
got a Xenyx 802 mixer for putting my 3 axes and a mic through effects and 
loopers. Works well. It has phantom power for the new Behringer B-1 
condenser mic I got. The mic works great I was looping all kind o' stuff! I 
have been wanting to do this kind of thing for awhile but after seeing Jim 
Goodins video of him during our dueling (lol) oud Ninjam session going from 
various instruments and percussion items into his 2880 I just had to make my 
move. Don't tell Jim I want to suprise him ; -) on our next jam tonight.

peace out,

Jeff

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> As far as inexpensive goes, I'm partial to the Octava MC012 mics.  I have 
> a
> Marshall 990 that sounds great.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:53 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: good cheap all round mic
>
> I am going to buy a mic tomorrow and I need it to be 100$ or less. I am
> going to use it for looping percussion, found sounds, you know anything 
> that
>
> might sound interesting run through fx and loops. There are so many list 
> at
> MF I just don't know where to start.I am not looking for perfection just 
> ok.
>
> Any general/specific ideas?
>
> thanks,
>
> jeff
>
> 

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andy butler schrieb:
> It's a good test, but doesn't show up the limitations at all.
> (dunnow, maybe in a better listening environment, there certainly were a
>  few artefacts revealed when mixing out of phase with the original)
> Next I tried with white noise,
> and the metallic sizzle appeared like magic.

both are bad tests, the sine sweep has almost no information, easy to 
compress even with low bit rates, the white noise would expectantly fail 
with a constant bit rate, as there is nothing to cut out without loosing 
information. Did you try the white noise with vbr and looked at the 
compression rate? Anyway, it shows that the results are very dependent 
on the material. All noise artists I know hate mp3's for a reason. It 
should be perfect for classical guitar.

My complain about that test was, that there is no information about any 
of the important details. What kind of music, which bit rates, how 
compared to what originals on which speakers/headphones. It seems a test 
aimed at self full filling prophecies. Anything which could hurt the 
claim is avoided. That is the opposite of science...

Stefan

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Thanks for all the help RP!

Yes, I am using the (non-main) line out and returning on the one line in
pair. I keep the kp3 input vol such that it stays at "green" peak (which it
says is fine and shouldn't have distortion).  I use the software input boost
on the firebox to +12 dB the kp3 input because it's pretty weak.

When testing with headphones, it seemed to me that the kp3>comp connection
was fine, as I got the same mediocre audio from the kp3 headphones port as
back through the comp.

I currently don't have a hardware mixer, but can look into getting one in
the future if necessary.

I'm not sure how to set the line out level, only the line in. Should I just
reduce the vol output from ableton? (it's always below the distortion
threshold now).

Afaik everything's getting full signal, but I dont know that much so perhaps
I'm wrong.

I have the routing configured so one track goes out to the kp (output 3/4)
and a separate one gets the returned signal (in 3/4).

As far as cables, I just swapped my old ones for belkin pureAV RCA audio
cables since I heard those are high quality. I'm using a generic
silver-plated RCA -> 1/4th" adapter from radioshack to connect them to the
firebox.

For my testing I have just been playing a song through live and comparing,
without having any effects activated.

Also, at one point I sent a signal to the kp3 and had the input volume too
high and the peak light went bright red before I caught it 15 secs later.
Don't know if that could have damaged the inputs or if there's a way to
check.

If any of that looks potentially troublesome, feel free to let me know.

Again, thanks a lot for all your help!

-Nick


On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 9:21 AM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Nick wrote:
>
>  if so, how would i go about doing that?
>>
>
>
> Some mixers and some amps have fx loop i/o and there are stand alone
> passive line level shifters.
> So it would be comp>mixer>kp3>mixer>comp
>
> But you may not need that.
>
> Are you using the line out and then returning on line in?
> If the line out is  -10db then no need for a level shifter.
> What cables are you using? Might be worth trying 1/8 to 1/8 mono cables
> with 1/4 and rca adapters
>
> Sorry I am not familiar with firebox.
> You may need to check the mixing software to see if routing is ok and no
> pads active so the line i/o are getting full signal.
> And there may be a way to tweak the routing in LIVE - are you putting the
> KP return on its own track?
>
> Not clear what instruments you are trying to effect, but as you know, some
> of the kp3 patches have tone, frequency or cutoff as part of the x/y so that
> can attenuate the signal, you may need to adjust the fx depth or wet/dry mix
> and some patches may not be useful or only partially useful for what you are
> trying to do.
>
> You might try using the Main out rather than the line out in which case you
> will need a level shifter, then return the signal on line in.
> Or you can try:   line out to kp > kp headphone out to > line in or perhaps
> even route back into a front panel jack.
>
> There are a lot of variables to play with.
>
>
> BobC
>
>

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Thanks for all the help RP!<br><br>Yes, I am using the (non-main) line out =
and returning on the one line in pair. I keep the kp3 input vol such that i=
t stays at &quot;green&quot; peak (which it says is fine and shouldn&#39;t =
have distortion).=A0 I use the software input boost on the firebox to +12 d=
B the kp3 input because it&#39;s pretty weak.<br>

<br>When testing with headphones, it seemed to me that the kp3&gt;comp conn=
ection was fine, as I got the same mediocre audio from the kp3 headphones p=
ort as back through the comp.<br><br>I currently don&#39;t have a hardware =
mixer, but can look into getting one in the future if necessary.<br>

<br>I&#39;m not sure how to set the line out level, only the line in. Shoul=
d I just reduce the vol output from ableton? (it&#39;s always below the dis=
tortion threshold now).<br><br>Afaik everything&#39;s getting full signal, =
but I dont know that much so perhaps I&#39;m wrong.<br>

<br>I have the routing configured so one track goes out to the kp (output 3=
/4) and a separate one gets the returned signal (in 3/4).<br><br>As far as =
cables, I just swapped my old ones for belkin pureAV RCA audio cables since=
 I heard those are high quality. I&#39;m using a generic silver-plated RCA =
-&gt; 1/4th&quot; adapter from radioshack to connect them to the firebox.<b=
r>

<br>For my testing I have just been playing a song through live and compari=
ng, without having any effects activated.<br><br>Also, at one point I sent =
a signal to the kp3 and had the input volume too high and the peak light we=
nt bright red before I caught it 15 secs later. Don&#39;t know if that coul=
d have damaged the inputs or if there&#39;s a way to check.<br>

<br>If any of that looks potentially troublesome, feel free to let me know.=
 <br><br>Again, thanks a lot for all your help!<br><br>-Nick<br><br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 9:21 AM, RP Collier <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:skeptikalist@gmail.com">skeptikalist@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
><br>
On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Nick wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
if so, how would i go about doing that?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br></div>
Some mixers and some amps have fx loop i/o and there are stand alone passiv=
e line level shifters.<br>
So it would be comp&gt;mixer&gt;kp3&gt;mixer&gt;comp<br>
<br>
But you may not need that.<br>
<br>
Are you using the line out and then returning on line in?<br>
If the line out is =A0-10db then no need for a level shifter.<br>
What cables are you using? Might be worth trying 1/8 to 1/8 mono cables wit=
h 1/4 and rca adapters<br>
<br>
Sorry I am not familiar with firebox.<br>
You may need to check the mixing software to see if routing is ok and no pa=
ds active so the line i/o are getting full signal.<br>
And there may be a way to tweak the routing in LIVE - are you putting the K=
P return on its own track?<br>
<br>
Not clear what instruments you are trying to effect, but as you know, some =
of the kp3 patches have tone, frequency or cutoff as part of the x/y so tha=
t can attenuate the signal, you may need to adjust the fx depth or wet/dry =
mix and some patches may not be useful or only partially useful for what yo=
u are trying to do.<br>


<br>
You might try using the Main out rather than the line out in which case you=
 will need a level shifter, then return the signal on line in.<br>
Or you can try: =A0 line out to kp &gt; kp headphone out to &gt; line in or=
 perhaps even route back into a front panel jack.<br>
<br>
There are a lot of variables to play with.<br>
<br>
<br>
BobC<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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On Apr 11, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote:

> But it seems like I'm putting things at risk. Is there some way for  
> me to change the headphone level output to line level? Will a  
> direct box effectively take care of the issue (maybe one w/ a 15db  
> pad)?

Does this help?

http://www.sweetwater.com/expert-center/techtips/d--10/26/2000



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hey Bob, that does help, a lot! Looks like I don't have to worry so 
much, though I do plan to do some testing as they suggest. Thanks so much!

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>
>> But it seems like I'm putting things at risk. Is there some way for 
>> me to change the headphone level output to line level? Will a direct 
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> Does this help?
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On Apr 11, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Nick wrote:

> Again, thanks a lot for all your help!


Looks like I did not help. ;-)
Routing and software mixer stuff is not always obvious.
You need more specific info regarding firebox/kp3, it would not hurt  
to ask at the Ableton forums.

This subject is sort of OT.
Let me excavate my KP2 and I will email you directly offlist.

BobC




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Stefan Tiedje wrote:
> andy butler schrieb:
>> It's a good test, but doesn't show up the limitations at all.
>> (dunnow, maybe in a better listening environment, there certainly were a
>>  few artefacts revealed when mixing out of phase with the original)
>> Next I tried with white noise,
>> and the metallic sizzle appeared like magic.
> 
> both are bad tests, the sine sweep has almost no information, easy to 
> compress even with low bit rates, the white noise would expectantly fail 
> with a constant bit rate, as there is nothing to cut out without loosing 
> information.

Both tests give very informative results.


> Did you try the white noise with vbr and looked at the 
> compression rate? 

no,

>Anyway, it shows that the results are very dependent 
> on the material.

yes, that's why the 2 signals make a good test.

> All noise artists I know hate mp3's for a reason. It 
> should be perfect for classical guitar.

well, don't use it on my guitar thanks ;-)
afaik classical guitar is often recorded in a nice natural
acoustic, so there's lot's of details for compression to lose.

> 
> My complain about that test was, that there is no information about any 
> of the important details. What kind of music, which bit rates, how 
> compared to what originals on which speakers/headphones. It seems a test 
> aimed at self full filling prophecies. Anything which could hurt the 
> claim is avoided. That is the opposite of science...

the journalists can't be trusted either

andy

> 
> Stefan
> 

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Like many of you, I often record my experiments and improvs at home and then
later want to release them. Obviously, there always has to be some editing -
after all, how else do you present the golden 7 minutes without necessarily
subjecting your listeners to the 45 minutes of noodling on different patches
that preceded it?

Well, take whatever position you will in the argument of "honest
documentation of a performance" vs. "good listening", but I personally don't
want to have to cringe for the next 30 years every time I hear that horrible
note near 3:57, so I'll generally throw away the stuff that I hate. So I'm
not pure, so sue me. :-)

So what I usually end up doing in my editing process is to keep it minimal -
cut out the bad stuff, every once in a while maybe graft a bar from
someplace else.

If I have the foresight to save a loop (I'm using SooperLooper at the
moment) while I'm recording (and every time I record a new first loop), then
my editing life is a dream. Want to drop 16 measures of an ill-advised sound
choice in the midst of an otherwise compelling piece? In most DAWs, if the
DAW's concept of a measure is the same as yours, it's pretty trivial -
select the measures and snip. the loop parts fit together with no clicks
because length cut was an exact multiple of the loop length. If you don't
have the DAW tempo synced to the loop length, you have to go through a
fairly painstaking process of trying to find the exact start and end points
of each snip. Editing is therefore highly discouraged.

What DAWs need to sync their concept of tempo to yours is typically an audio
file consisting of exactly one loop (or some known integral multiple). So if
I save a loop using whatever tool I'm in, then I'm home free.

OK, finally, the question: what if I haven't done this? The loop file (I
record in multitrack, so the live input is separate) contains a lot of areas
where there is no change in the loop for a while while I'm playing. Are
there any tools available that could autocorrelate a file like this and tell
me how many samples there are in a repeating section?

Thanks,
Warren

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Like many of you, I often record my experiments and improvs at home and the=
n later want to release them. Obviously, there always has to be some editin=
g - after all, how else do you present the golden 7 minutes without necessa=
rily subjecting your listeners to the 45 minutes of noodling on different p=
atches that preceded it?<br>
<br>Well, take whatever position you will in the argument of &quot;honest d=
ocumentation of a performance&quot; vs. &quot;good listening&quot;, but I p=
ersonally don&#39;t want to have to cringe for the next 30 years every time=
 I hear that horrible note near 3:57, so I&#39;ll generally throw away the =
stuff that I hate. So I&#39;m not pure, so sue me. :-) <br>
<br>So what I usually end up doing in my editing process is to keep it mini=
mal - cut out the bad stuff, every once in a while maybe graft a bar from s=
omeplace else. <br><br>If I have the foresight to save a loop (I&#39;m usin=
g SooperLooper at the moment) while I&#39;m recording (and every time I rec=
ord a new first loop), then my editing life is a dream. Want to drop 16 mea=
sures of an ill-advised sound choice in the midst of an otherwise compellin=
g piece? In most DAWs, if the DAW&#39;s concept of a measure is the same as=
 yours, it&#39;s pretty trivial - select the measures and snip. the loop pa=
rts fit together with no clicks because length cut was an exact multiple of=
 the loop length. If you don&#39;t have the DAW tempo synced to the loop le=
ngth, you have to go through a fairly painstaking process of trying to find=
 the exact start and end points of each snip. Editing is therefore highly d=
iscouraged.<br>
<br>What DAWs need to sync their concept of tempo to yours is typically an =
audio file consisting of exactly one loop (or some known integral multiple)=
. So if I save a loop using whatever tool I&#39;m in, then I&#39;m home fre=
e.<br>
<br>OK, finally, the question: what if I haven&#39;t done this? The loop fi=
le (I record in multitrack, so the live input is separate) contains a lot o=
f areas where there is no change in the loop for a while while I&#39;m play=
ing. Are there any tools available that could autocorrelate a file like thi=
s and tell me how many samples there are in a repeating section? <br>
<br>Thanks,<br>Warren<br>

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I guess I should add to the punchline: what would be even better than a
program that could count the samples would be one that could actually
extract an audio file containing exactly one loop

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I guess I should add to the punchline: what would be even better than a program that could count the samples would be one that could actually extract an audio file containing exactly one loop<br>

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I've been doing this type of editing by ear for... well, at least
longer than a decade. I wouldn't dream about trading that method for
any sort of "automatic tool". Here's my work flow for the job:

1. Import the looping tracks as audio files into a DAW (I use Logic).
2. Locate the first section of the music where a tempo is easy to hear.
3. Copy this file and move it to the beginning of the DAW's time line
(absolute time).
4. Adjust the DAW''s tempo to match the tempo of the recorded music.
This can be done with two techniques: You may enable a tempo click in
the DAW and  juggle the tempo wheel to find the match, or you may zoom
the audio file on the screen to graphically make it line up with the
DAW's bar markers. The final touch always has to be done by ear - you
can't fully trust a graphical display since the musically experienced
transient is not always the same as the graphically displayed signal
peak.
5. Now when you have found the initial tempo, delete the copied file
and move all original loop track files in one go so that you will not
loose the relative start points between them (in other words: watch
out for "snap to bar" functions etc in the DAW). Nudge the files to
line up with the DAW's grid.
6. If your looping performance changes tempo as you go along (like it
often happens to me) open the DAW's tempo list to change the tempo
accordingly where needed. This process will lead to a tempo map in the
DAW that matches the tempo changes you were playing during the looping
performance.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Hello,
I'm selling a Boomerang Phrase Sampler and a Boss RC-20 not used much  
and in good conditions if anyone is interested. Contact me for prices  
thank you.
Thanks, Lb

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Hi,
I am no longer using Reaktor 5.  I have the box, CD, manuals.  I registered
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Warren Sirota wrote:
> 
> Well, take whatever position you will in the argument of "honest 
> documentation of a performance" vs. "good listening", but I personally 
> don't want to have to cringe for the next 30 years every time I hear 
> that horrible note near 3:57, so I'll generally throw away the stuff 
> that I hate. So I'm not pure, so sue me. :-)

What most don't realise is that editing was often used for 
all those great jazz recordings from the 50's & 60's
which are generally though to be "as is" recordings.

If I need to edit loop stuff I open the file twice in a Multi-track editor,
on 2 adjacent tracks.
Then I shift one of the files by one loop length, and align it accurately
by ear, and by observing the waveform.
As you're using software for the looping, once you get it aligned to
the nearest sample you'll have the exact loop length in samples.
(I don't get that, so it can only be as accurate as the nearest sample,
 as the edp samples aren't synced to the recording).
With Audition, I create a dummy loop of exactly the right length and
loop duplicate it for the length of the piece.
It needs to be sample accurate in order to not get phasing on the x-fades.

Once the loop length is accurately measured, it's pretty easy to edit 
out a whole no. of loops.

It's also possible to use phase cancellation to give you access to layers
in the sound.
e.g. If you recorded a static loop with a solo over it onto one track, as
long as you have a recording of just the loop without the solo it's
possible to mix the original loop in ant-phase, and just get access to 
the solo. Good for mixing, and for editing out any gaffe notes.


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Heartwarming, indeed.

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k
>
> I love the concept of Viral Artistry.
>
>


-- 
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Heartwarming, indeed. <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 11, 20=
09 at 1:00 AM, Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool=
@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7EYAUazLI9k" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7EYAUazLI9k</a><br>
<br>
I love the concept of Viral Artistry.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679">http://www.ubetoo.com/Arti=
st.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com">http=
://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>


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I don't know how NI operates, but it should be possible to transfer the
registration on a pricey piece o' sw like Reaktor, if you contact them and
ask nicely.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Qua Veda <qua@oregon.com> wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I am no longer using Reaktor 5.  I have the box, CD, manuals.  I registered
> the s/w when I bought it, and I believe the registration is not
> transferable.
> That means it would not be eligible for tech support , or an upgrade, so I
> would sell it for the substantial discounted price of $200.
> I am not keeping a copy of it,  and I am only interested in a legitimate
> sale, to get into into the hands of someone who will use it.
> If you are interested, please contact me offlist,  qua @ oregon.com
>
> Thanks!
> -Qua
>



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I don&#39;t know how NI operates, but it should be possible to transfer the=
 registration on a pricey piece o&#39; sw like Reaktor, if you contact them=
 and ask nicely.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at =
12:24 PM, Qua Veda <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:qua@oregon.com">=
qua@oregon.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



<div>
<font face=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt;"><br>
Hi,<br>
I am no longer using Reaktor 5. =A0I have the box, CD, manuals. =A0I regist=
ered the s/w when I bought it, and I believe the registration is not transf=
erable.<br>
That means it would not be eligible for tech support , or an upgrade, so I =
would sell it for the substantial discounted price of $200.<br>
I am not keeping a copy of it, =A0and I am only interested in a legitimate =
sale, to get into into the hands of someone who will use it. <br>
If you are interested, please contact me offlist, =A0qua @ <a href=3D"http:=
//oregon.com" target=3D"_blank">oregon.com</a><br>
<br>
Thanks!<br><font color=3D"#888888">
-Qua</font></span></font>
</div>


</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679">http://www.ubetoo.com/Arti=
st.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com">http=
://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>


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Great fun!  I had to close the page else an couple of hours probably  
would have passed without me realizing it.

-- Kevin

Quoting William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>:

> Yikes, I could play with this for a long long time, Its about as accessible
> as I've seen an interactive music toy be.
> Thanks Stan
>  Bill
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>
> mi like ee
> hope U like ee too:
>
>
>
> http://lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix
>
>



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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net=
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> Testing, Testing Testing, Again

Test received.

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10-4 good buddy, I'm 10-10 on the side



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> Testing, Testing Testing, Again
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[Jeff Duke]
> 10-4 good buddy, I'm 10-10 on the side

Oh how I miss C.W. McCall.  You just don't hear
him on the radio any more, maybe I should get FM.

Jeff


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hehe, it reminds me of the 70s, cruising the Arizona desert with my brothers 
and friends drinking brew and toking mother nature. We all had CBs, we were 
high tech and living in the modern age for sure!

peace out,

Jeff

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[Jeff Duke]
> 10-4 good buddy, I'm 10-10 on the side

Oh how I miss C.W. McCall.  You just don't hear
him on the radio any more, maybe I should get FM.

Jeff



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Just got this announcement...don't know if anyone uses Lloopp for 
Max/MSP, but sounds like a great loop-heavy show next Monday the 20th 
(or in Oakland this Friday).

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Klaus Filip and Noid (Arnold Haberl) are experimental electronic 
musicians from Vienna, Austria. Here in San Francisco to present their 
free, open-source music composition software, lloopp, at Expo '74, the 
first annual Cycling '74 Max/MSP conference, this special Luggage Store 
event will be their only live public performance in San Francisco (you 
can also catch them at 21 Grand this Friday with Perkis, Bishoff, and 
Brown). They will play one set as "ease" , their laptop duo, and be 
joined for a second set by local improvisers Steve Adams (rova sax 
quartet) and Phillip Greenlief on saxes, and John Hanes on electronics.
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Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

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Way off topic, but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, "Wristcutters, A
Love Story".  Tom Waits plays a fairly prominent role and there's a
lot of fun music throughout. (trying not to say too much here).  I
apologize if this has already been beaten and flogged previously.
-- 
Miko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"

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Hi everyone,

I have a performance this Thursday at the Luggage Store - details are
below. Spacey drum machine with lap steel - how could one go wrong?
Parisian guitarist Richard Bonnet shares the bill.


Thursday, Apr 16 2009 8:00 PM
Luggage Store New Music Series
1007 Market St. @ 6th Street
San Francisco
$6-10 sliding scale

8pm David Michalak (lap steel guitar) and Matt Davignon (drum machine)
9pm Richard Bonnet (guitar, from Paris)

French guitarist Richard Bonnet focuses his work on sound texture and
mixing roots with avant-garde music in order to propose a spontaneous
music with raw energy. A process of permanently boiling where codes
and written conventions lead the way to the freedom and the freshness
of a speech without any concession. Richard is an active musician of
the Parisian scene. He has performed in Europe and the United States,
as a solo artist and in small and large ensembles Eric Jacot, Ichiro
Onoe, Thomas de Pourquery, Andre Charlier, Guillaume Roy, Federico
Hughi and Tom Abbs.

David Michalak plays a Fender lap steel guitar and an assortment of
odd percussion instruments. While he is more commonly known as a
filmmaker (50 films with original soundtracks since 1971), the visual
art side of him seeps inherently into his solo performances and group
compositions which are characterized by shimmering passages, abstract
snapshots and haunting representations of natural elements. Besides
Ghost In The House, David plays in his instrumental ensemble Reel
Change as well as the duo, Dr. Bob. Some musicians that he is
currently performing with are: Tom Nunn, Andrew Voigt, Bob Marsh,
Carla Kihlstedt, Karen Stackpole and Kyle Bruckmann.
http://www.eye-fullfilms.com/

Matt Davignon is an experimental/ambient drum-machinist living in
Oakland, California. Originally born in Western Massachusetts, he
spent his musically formative years in Northern California, tinkering
with tools such as lo-fi samplers, cassette tapes, contact
microphones, household objects, 4-track compositions, extensive chains
of guitar effects, prepared instruments, and field recordings. These
explorations fuel and inform his current work, which most frequently
involves processing the sounds of a drum machine in real-time with
various electronic devices. Characteristics of his music include a
focus on textures, arrhythmic patterns and musical imperfections, with
a focus on evoking biological systems. Matt also co-produces the
Luggage Store Gallery Experimental Music series in San Francisco, and
has produced odd concerts such as the San Francisco Found Objects
Festival and Droneshift. www.ribosomemusic.com

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com

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thanx Miko, i love all things Tom Waits..

j
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> Way off topic, but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, "Wristcutters, A
> Love Story".  Tom Waits plays a fairly prominent role and there's a
> lot of fun music throughout. (trying not to say too much here).  I
> apologize if this has already been beaten and flogged previously.
> -- 
> Miko Biffle
> Biffoz@Gmail.com
> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
> 
>

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ELCrrMdphk

I just started a new project (as time permits), which is going to be
videos of bay area experimental musicians with interesting gear
setups, describing how and why the gear works. It will then be coupled
with demos of the artist making music with the gear.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7euFSrxHUtA) I'm the first guinea pig.
Weet? Weet? That's my motto.

Posting these videos is easy, the only equipment required was a $120
video camera from Amazon.

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com

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monome?
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At 2009.04.13 03:37 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote:
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>square box with lots of buttons.... anyone remember what this was called?

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To stay off topic, I concur, "Wristcutters" was a very odd but  
interesting film.  See "Stay," also a good stylish film with good music!

Okay back to looping!

To listen to some of my music lease visit: www.untitledvisions.com

It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe!

On Apr 13, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> thanx Miko, i love all things Tom Waits..
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>> Way off topic, but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, "Wristcutters, A
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>> lot of fun music throughout. (trying not to say too much here).  I
>> apologize if this has already been beaten and flogged previously.
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Thanks for sharing that Miko.

I adore Tom Waits work.

I'm surprised this passed beneath my radar.

I hadn't heard anything about it at all.

But then again I do live in flyover/driveby country.

Ted

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Hi gang,
I am messing with the EDP as slave and the adrenalinn as master,but i am having problems stoping the EDP with the adrenalinn,i tested it with the eventide timefactor looper and it sends a midistop comand witout a problem but not the EDP,any clues?

cheers
Luis

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom



      

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I cant give you any specific answer RE your set-up, but I would advise
all EDP loopers to consider having your main looper as MASTER.
Everything I have syncs to one EDP, (including another EDP) , I like
this option, cos I can start my track with a loop, THEN after first
loop everything starts in sync with it, OR I can press and hold the
UNDO button (when in reset) and select the BPM (If theres a specific
speed I want (usually cos I want to start with Drum-machine or
sequencer) THEN when I hit record the first time, I hear all the snced
stuff, and the second hit of record will quantize to the BPM. Its the
best of both worlds.

Excuse me if this is a well known tip, but for me - I found it by accident.

Mark

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:30 AM,  <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi gang,
> I am messing with the EDP as slave and the adrenalinn as master,but i am having problems stoping the EDP with the adrenalinn,i tested it with the eventide timefactor looper and it sends a midistop comand witout a problem but not the EDP,any clues?
>
> cheers
> Luis
>
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Miko, -this is unrelated to the brilliant Mr. Waits, but... ummm... since I
know a young woman who I just found out is cutting her wrists and has in
fact unsuccessfully attempted suicide, and there even appears to be a
mini-epidemic of it at her high school, it's a bit shocking to me to see
what looks like a comedy named Wristcutters. Is this film popular among
teenagers? If I saw it, would I learn anything (aside from whatever
entertainment is going on here) about motivation or relating to this scary
way of thinking?

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Way off topic, but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, "Wristcutters, A
> Love Story".  Tom Waits plays a fairly prominent role and there's a
> lot of fun music throughout. (trying not to say too much here).  I
> apologize if this has already been beaten and flogged previously.
> --
> Miko Biffle
> Biffoz@Gmail.com
> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
>
>


-- 
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Miko, -this is unrelated to the brilliant Mr. Waits, but... ummm... since I=
 know a young woman who I just found out is cutting her wrists and has in f=
act unsuccessfully attempted suicide, and there even appears to be a mini-e=
pidemic of it at her high school, it&#39;s a bit shocking to me to see what=
 looks like a comedy named Wristcutters. Is this film popular among teenage=
rs? If I saw it, would I learn anything (aside from whatever entertainment =
is going on here) about motivation or relating to this scary way of thinkin=
g?<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Miko Biffle=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:biffoz@gmail.com">biffoz@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border=
-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-lef=
t: 1ex;">
Way off topic, but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, &quot;Wristcutters, A<br=
>
Love Story&quot;. =A0Tom Waits plays a fairly prominent role and there&#39;=
s a<br>
lot of fun music throughout. (trying not to say too much here). =A0I<br>
apologize if this has already been beaten and flogged previously.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Miko Biffle<br>
Biffoz@Gmail.com<br>
MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com<br>
&quot;Running scared from all the usual distractions!&quot;<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a hre=
f=3D"http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679">http://www.ubetoo.c=
om/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.co=
m">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>


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>OFF TOPIC: Funny, I thought exactly the same thing the moment I first saw =
this post (didnt stop me popping off to d/l it however) Its seems to get po=
or reviews, mostly based on it being a "bit dull".

Although I had a best friend commit suicide when I was 12 years old, I
have not personally had any connection with the issue of suicide since
then, but very recently, I have become aware that it seems to be a
huge problem.I dont know if the figures are much worse here in Oslo
(wiki p says not) than the UK, but my god.. you are ALWAYS hearing
about suicide here.(My step kids BOTH havefriend who have been and
gone and done it!!!)  I even saw a suicide a couple of years ago. A
man was hanging out of his window as my tram passed by.

When a film comes along that is being flipant and ironic about such a
serious subject, its hard to think that the film-makers are being very
clever here.
Can making fun of suicide prevent it or promote it? Who knows?

Its certainly the right of any artist to tackle any issue they wish,
but it will offend someone... The familly of a recently deceased
teenager, are not going to think this film is very funny, as I
wouldn't if a film came along that tackled the struggle against Cancer
as a joke.

But humor is often at its best when its black, and one always has the
possibility to NOT watch things that you think may offend you. But one
has to be careful, shock sells, and now the amount of "feel good"
movies being released is less and less. My wife can no longer watch TV
(Except Animal Planet, and THAT has too many "The fight for survival
in the jungle" programs) for fear of seeing something that will remind
her that she narrowly missed death last year.

Once my D/L has finished, i will watch the said film and make an opinion.

>ON TOPIC: I just got a fireworx >(not arrived yet tho)  can anyone point m=
e to good resources/tips/etc, offlist ??


The idea certainly intrigues however.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wro=
te:
> Miko, -this is unrelated to the brilliant Mr. Waits, but... ummm... since=
 I
> know a young woman who I just found out is cutting her wrists and has in
> fact unsuccessfully attempted suicide, and there even appears to be a
> mini-epidemic of it at her high school, it's a bit shocking to me to see
> what looks like a comedy named Wristcutters. Is this film popular among
> teenagers? If I saw it, would I learn anything (aside from whatever
> entertainment is going on here) about motivation or relating to this scar=
y
> way of thinking?
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Way off topic, but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, "Wristcutters, A
>> Love Story". =A0Tom Waits plays a fairly prominent role and there's a
>> lot of fun music throughout. (trying not to say too much here). =A0I
>> apologize if this has already been beaten and flogged previously.
>> --
>> Miko Biffle
>> Biffoz@Gmail.com
>> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
>> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Warren
> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
> http://www.warrensirota.com
>



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Time to part with my love!

Loop IV software and Foot Pedal included

www.tinyurl.com/gibsonechoplex

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Time to part with my love!<br><br>Loop IV software and Foot Pedal included<br><br><a href="http://www.tinyurl.com/gibsonechoplex">www.tinyurl.com/gibsonechoplex</a><br>

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I am interested in a Gibson Black FC-7 switch controller in really good condition if anybody wants to sell theirs let me know.
Luis
www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Tue, 4/14/09, Aaron <NoNotPop@googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: Aaron <NoNotPop@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro - for sale
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 5:52 AM
> Time to part with my love!
> 
> Loop IV software and Foot Pedal included
> 
> www.tinyurl.com/gibsonechoplex
> 
> 


      

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Hey Mark=0Ayes, ive always used it that way,but the cool thing about using =
the EDP as slave is that instead of grabbing the undo button and search the=
 tempo i want i can just start the adrenalinn at the speed i want just by t=
apping the tap switch and then have the EDP follow it once it has received =
tempo sync.The sad thing is that the Adrenalinn cannot send all those cool =
QuantMIDIStartSong,muteQuantMIDIStartSong etc. but id be happy if i could a=
t least stop the EDP by stopping the drumbox,so far no luck.=0ACheers=0ALui=
s=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Tue, 4/14/09, mark f=
rancombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:=0A=0A> From: mark francombe <mark@=
markfrancombe.com>=0A> Subject: Re: MIDI start/stop with the Adrenalinn and=
 EDP=0A> To: "loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=0A> Da=
te: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 3:11 AM=0A> I cant give you any specific answe=
r=0A> RE your set-up, but I would advise=0A> all EDP loopers to consider ha=
ving your main looper as=0A> MASTER.=0A> Everything I have syncs to one EDP=
, (including another EDP)=0A> , I like=0A> this option, cos I can start my =
track with a loop, THEN=0A> after first=0A> loop everything starts in sync =
with it, OR I can press and=0A> hold the=0A> UNDO button (when in reset) an=
d select the BPM (If theres a=0A> specific=0A> speed I want (usually cos I =
want to start with Drum-machine=0A> or=0A> sequencer) THEN when I hit recor=
d the first time, I hear=0A> all the snced=0A> stuff, and the second hit of=
 record will quantize to the=0A> BPM. Its the=0A> best of both worlds.=0A> =
=0A> Excuse me if this is a well known tip, but for me - I found=0A> it by =
accident.=0A> =0A> Mark=0A> =0A> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:30 AM,=A0 <laba=
loops@yahoo.com>=0A> wrote:=0A> >=0A> > Hi gang,=0A> > I am messing with th=
e EDP as slave and the adrenalinn=0A> as master,but i am having problems st=
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tor looper=0A> and it sends a midistop comand witout a problem but not the=
=0A> EDP,any clues?=0A> >=0A> > cheers=0A> > Luis=0A> >=0A> > www.myspace.c=
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you know, i'm not offended. i'm just trying to make sense of why this is
going on and wondering if this movie is either an influencer or an explainer
(which I suspect it might be, in a way). i might rent it myself.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:22 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:

> >OFF TOPIC: Funny, I thought exactly the same thing the moment I first saw
> this post (didnt stop me popping off to d/l it however) Its seems to get
> poor reviews, mostly based on it being a "bit dull".
>
> Although I had a best friend commit suicide when I was 12 years old, I
> have not personally had any connection with the issue of suicide since
> then, but very recently, I have become aware that it seems to be a
> huge problem.I dont know if the figures are much worse here in Oslo
> (wiki p says not) than the UK, but my god.. you are ALWAYS hearing
> about suicide here.(My step kids BOTH havefriend who have been and
> gone and done it!!!)  I even saw a suicide a couple of years ago. A
> man was hanging out of his window as my tram passed by.
>
> When a film comes along that is being flipant and ironic about such a
> serious subject, its hard to think that the film-makers are being very
> clever here.
> Can making fun of suicide prevent it or promote it? Who knows?
>
> Its certainly the right of any artist to tackle any issue they wish,
> but it will offend someone... The familly of a recently deceased
> teenager, are not going to think this film is very funny, as I
> wouldn't if a film came along that tackled the struggle against Cancer
> as a joke.
>
> But humor is often at its best when its black, and one always has the
> possibility to NOT watch things that you think may offend you. But one
> has to be careful, shock sells, and now the amount of "feel good"
> movies being released is less and less. My wife can no longer watch TV
> (Except Animal Planet, and THAT has too many "The fight for survival
> in the jungle" programs) for fear of seeing something that will remind
> her that she narrowly missed death last year.
>
> Once my D/L has finished, i will watch the said film and make an opinion.
>
> >ON TOPIC: I just got a fireworx >(not arrived yet tho)  can anyone point
> me to good resources/tips/etc, offlist ??
>
>
> The idea certainly intrigues however.
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>
> wrote:
> > Miko, -this is unrelated to the brilliant Mr. Waits, but... ummm... since
> I
> > know a young woman who I just found out is cutting her wrists and has in
> > fact unsuccessfully attempted suicide, and there even appears to be a
> > mini-epidemic of it at her high school, it's a bit shocking to me to see
> > what looks like a comedy named Wristcutters. Is this film popular among
> > teenagers? If I saw it, would I learn anything (aside from whatever
> > entertainment is going on here) about motivation or relating to this
> scary
> > way of thinking?
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Way off topic, but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, "Wristcutters, A
> >> Love Story".  Tom Waits plays a fairly prominent role and there's a
> >> lot of fun music throughout. (trying not to say too much here).  I
> >> apologize if this has already been beaten and flogged previously.
> >> --
> >> Miko Biffle
> >> Biffoz@Gmail.com
> >> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
> >> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Warren
> > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679
> > http://www.warrensirota.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
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you know, i&#39;m not offended. i&#39;m just trying to make sense of why th=
is is going on and wondering if this movie is either an influencer or an ex=
plainer (which I suspect it might be, in a way). i might rent it myself.<br=
>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:22 AM, mark franco=
mbe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@ma=
rkfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8=
ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
&gt;OFF TOPIC: Funny, I thought exactly the same thing the moment I first s=
aw this post (didnt stop me popping off to d/l it however) Its seems to get=
 poor reviews, mostly based on it being a &quot;bit dull&quot;.<br>
<br>
Although I had a best friend commit suicide when I was 12 years old, I<br>
have not personally had any connection with the issue of suicide since<br>
then, but very recently, I have become aware that it seems to be a<br>
huge problem.I dont know if the figures are much worse here in Oslo<br>
(wiki p says not) than the UK, but my god.. you are ALWAYS hearing<br>
about suicide here.(My step kids BOTH havefriend who have been and<br>
gone and done it!!!) =A0I even saw a suicide a couple of years ago. A<br>
man was hanging out of his window as my tram passed by.<br>
<br>
When a film comes along that is being flipant and ironic about such a<br>
serious subject, its hard to think that the film-makers are being very<br>
clever here.<br>
Can making fun of suicide prevent it or promote it? Who knows?<br>
<br>
Its certainly the right of any artist to tackle any issue they wish,<br>
but it will offend someone... The familly of a recently deceased<br>
teenager, are not going to think this film is very funny, as I<br>
wouldn&#39;t if a film came along that tackled the struggle against Cancer<=
br>
as a joke.<br>
<br>
But humor is often at its best when its black, and one always has the<br>
possibility to NOT watch things that you think may offend you. But one<br>
has to be careful, shock sells, and now the amount of &quot;feel good&quot;=
<br>
movies being released is less and less. My wife can no longer watch TV<br>
(Except Animal Planet, and THAT has too many &quot;The fight for survival<b=
r>
in the jungle&quot; programs) for fear of seeing something that will remind=
<br>
her that she narrowly missed death last year.<br>
<br>
Once my D/L has finished, i will watch the said film and make an opinion.<b=
r>
<br>
&gt;ON TOPIC: I just got a fireworx &gt;(not arrived yet tho) =A0can anyone=
 point me to good resources/tips/etc, offlist ??<br>
<br>
<br>
The idea certainly intrigues however.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Warren Sirota &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wsiro=
ta@wsdesigns.com">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Miko, -this is unrelated to the brilliant Mr. Waits, but... ummm... si=
nce I<br>
&gt; know a young woman who I just found out is cutting her wrists and has =
in<br>
&gt; fact unsuccessfully attempted suicide, and there even appears to be a<=
br>
&gt; mini-epidemic of it at her high school, it&#39;s a bit shocking to me =
to see<br>
&gt; what looks like a comedy named Wristcutters. Is this film popular amon=
g<br>
&gt; teenagers? If I saw it, would I learn anything (aside from whatever<br=
>
&gt; entertainment is going on here) about motivation or relating to this s=
cary<br>
&gt; way of thinking?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Miko Biffle &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bif=
foz@gmail.com">biffoz@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Way off topic, but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, &quot;Wristcutt=
ers, A<br>
&gt;&gt; Love Story&quot;. =A0Tom Waits plays a fairly prominent role and t=
here&#39;s a<br>
&gt;&gt; lot of fun music throughout. (trying not to say too much here). =
=A0I<br>
&gt;&gt; apologize if this has already been beaten and flogged previously.<=
br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Miko Biffle<br>
&gt;&gt; Biffoz@Gmail.com<br>
&gt;&gt; MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com<br>
&gt;&gt; &quot;Running scared from all the usual distractions!&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Warren<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.w=
arrensirota.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
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e.com</a><br>
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user825094</a><br>
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://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>
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nch</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a hre=
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Hi Warren,

I'm sorry to hear of your friend and the trend=97shocking.  I just heard
a similar story about one of my son's friends.  I don't think the
movie would be very helpful about the subject specifically, but it
inspires a certain brand of faith and hope.  It could minimize the
serious nature of the act though, which could be bad for someone so
inclined.  I guess I would say it's probably for a more mature
audience.

Beyond that, I think that belief in other worlds and religion in
general can make people less respectful of their time on this earth,
believing there is a more important realm where rewards, a better
world, etc. exist.  It's great to embrace faith as a mechanism for
growth and perseverance, but I've seen friends get lost in the search
for that other world.

I hope you find some answers.

-m

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pardon the spam, but i'm just not using my LP1 as much as i had planned.  if
you're interested, email me.  i'm asking $1200 and it's practically brand
new...just a few months old and barely used.

thanks.

-jim

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pardon the spam, but i&#39;m just not using my LP1 as much as i had planned=
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<br>-jim<br>

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I finally purchased an FCB1010 however I have been unable to get the  
CC events (not the expression pedals, but the two "static" CC events)  
to transmit.

I've tried turning Running status on and off, and have gone through  
the programming steps over and over.  I am having no problem with the  
PC events and, once I found out how to calibrate the Exp Pedals, no  
problem there.  I haven't yet checked the note-on event.  I am  
transmitting the CC events on channel 11 (have checked and  
double-checked this).  I have made sure that the CC events are  
"active".  I am now pulling my hair out with this and I haven't been  
able to find info on this particular issue.

So, I'm turning to the list for some help on this.  I am attempting to  
send CC commands to my LP1 on channel 11  (note, this works with my  
PadKontrol, thus the LP1 is working ok).

Thank you in advance for any advice.

Sincerely,

Kevin

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Kevin,

just asking in case you haven't thought of that:

Have you connected the FCB1010 to a computer running a sequencer and
then checked what it transmits when it should transmit the CCs in
question?

            Rainer

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Quoting Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>:

> Kevin,
>
> just asking in case you haven't thought of that:
>
> Have you connected the FCB1010 to a computer running a sequencer and
> then checked what it transmits when it should transmit the CCs in
> question?
>
>             Rainer
>
>
Haven't done that yet... my plan is to try it after I finish work today.

-- Kevin



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Is there any hope of getting on this list other than in a theoretical manner 
again?  Jeepers.

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Hi Kevin,
You need to program "momentary" events =3D> "This means you need to send =
both
an Off value (0) and an On value (127) to activate a LP1 function. =
Toggle or
latch type of switches will not work. There's an issue when using CC
messages: you have to trigger each CC message twice before the LP1
recognizes it." Btw: Bob is aware of this problem.=20

It's documented on my LP1 page, http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/lp1.shtml

Hope this helps,
Sjaak

---=20
Sjaak
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20
http://euroloopfest.com/=20
http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw


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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

That must be it because my PadKontrol sends a momentary event.  I will  
try it in a few minutes.

-- Kevin

Quoting Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>:

> Hi Kevin,
> You need to program "momentary" events => "This means you need to send both
> an Off value (0) and an On value (127) to activate a LP1 function. Toggle or
> latch type of switches will not work. There's an issue when using CC
> messages: you have to trigger each CC message twice before the LP1
> recognizes it." Btw: Bob is aware of this problem.
>
> It's documented on my LP1 page, http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/lp1.shtml
>
> Hope this helps,
> Sjaak
>
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
>
>
>



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don't know what you mean. you appear to be on it!

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Stephen Goodman
<spgoodman@earthlight.net>wrote:

> Is there any hope of getting on this list other than in a theoretical
> manner again?  Jeepers.
>
>


-- 
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don&#39;t know what you mean. you appear to be on it!<br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Stephen Goodman <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net">spgoodman@earthlight.n=
et</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Is there any hope=
 of getting on this list other than in a theoretical manner again? =A0Jeepe=
rs.<br>

<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679">http://www.ubetoo.com/Arti=
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Dear loopers,

for another off-topic topic, I'd like to accomplish the following:

using the audio of an existing recording of avantgarde-ambient-ish
stuff, I'd like to generate sounds which can be used as drums.

E.g., by using a low guitar note, pitching it, using the evenlope,
filters etc. of a sampler, I'd like to make me a bass-drum proxy. Same
goes for a-la-snare and a-la hihat (or ride cymbal), and if possible,
some additional sounds as well.

Has any of you ever done something like this before? Any hints, a
full-blown howto, or link to an online resource?

Thanks,

             Rainer

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You may use a filter with resonance and cut-off controls. Most drum
sounds of "a kit" can be achieved out of any noise (even without the
need of any source sound, if your filter can go into self oscillation
at high resonance settings).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Dear loopers,
>
> for another off-topic topic, I'd like to accomplish the following:
>
> using the audio of an existing recording of avantgarde-ambient-ish
> stuff, I'd like to generate sounds which can be used as drums.
>
> E.g., by using a low guitar note, pitching it, using the evenlope,
> filters etc. of a sampler, I'd like to make me a bass-drum proxy. Same
> goes for a-la-snare and a-la hihat (or ride cymbal), and if possible,
> some additional sounds as well.
>
> Has any of you ever done something like this before? Any hints, a
> full-blown howto, or link to an online resource?
>
> Thanks,
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rainer
>
>

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Stephen, you are on this list in a completely non-theoretical way, welcome!

I however am appearing here only in theory, in practice I am somewhere
else completely...

Mark

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>>
>> Is there any hope of getting on this list other than in a theoretical
>> manner again? =A0Jeepers.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Warren
> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
> http://www.warrensirota.com
>



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Kick Drum is a low note, immediately pitch shifted down, a downward
bend if you will.
Snare Drum is 90% noise, mixed with 10% a two note chord. Noise can be
acheived via ultra distortion of the source.

Both these should be played thru a vca or vcf, that is triggered in
your required rhythm or lack therof.

This is normal Modular stuff, either hardward Moog Stylee, or laptop
Plogue/Mulch/Maxy type stuff...

But I dont understand Tainer... you know this sttuff...? so what you
up to slash mean really?

M

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Dear loopers,
>
> for another off-topic topic, I'd like to accomplish the following:
>
> using the audio of an existing recording of avantgarde-ambient-ish
> stuff, I'd like to generate sounds which can be used as drums.
>
> E.g., by using a low guitar note, pitching it, using the evenlope,
> filters etc. of a sampler, I'd like to make me a bass-drum proxy. Same
> goes for a-la-snare and a-la hihat (or ride cymbal), and if possible,
> some additional sounds as well.
>
> Has any of you ever done something like this before? Any hints, a
> full-blown howto, or link to an online resource?
>
> Thanks,
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer
>
>



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Hi list,
I recorded a fairy tale like live improv when I was rehearsing tonight. I
have added it to the podcast on iTunes (see mp3 page on my website) or
simply click here http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/11_Sunshine.mp3

Enjoy this sunny day :)

--- 
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http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ 
http://euroloopfest.com/ 
http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw





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Hi folks,

I have a piece "Liquidity", in an always delightful art show in 
Monson, MA -- the opening is from 2 to 4 on Saturday.

At 4:27 PM -0400 4/14/09, Maureen Solomon wrote:
>GAiA Opens in Monson April 17 - May 3
>
>Work by 65 regional artists comprises the 16th Annual Art Exhibition 
>and Sale sponsored by the Monson Arts Council. You are invited to 
>come and see my work among these artists at the House of Art, 200 
>Main Street, Monson. Eight rooms of art (plus hallways) and a print 
>shop are filled with art. Here is a schedule of events and hours:
>
>Show Open:
>April 17 - Preview Reception 6-8pm
>April 18 - Artist Reception 2-4pm
>April 19 - Noon - 4pm
>
>April 24 - 4- 8 pm
>April 25  - 10am - 8-pm
>	Susie McHand, Folksinger - 2-4pm
>	WineTasting Party (no charge) sponsored by Hardwick Winery - 5-8pm
>April 26 - Noon - 4pm
>May 1 - 4- 8pm
>May 2 - 10am - 5pm
>	Drumming Circle with John Thorp - 2-3:30pm
>May 3 - Noon - 4pm

http://www.monsonartscouncil.com/contact.asp#directions

I'm performing video improvisations in the evening at the lovely 119 
gallery in Lowell, with two fine reed players, Dennis Shafer and Todd 
Brunel, and a mind-bending poet, John Mulrooney.

8  PM  $10 donation

Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door 
to the gallery.

http://www.119gallery.org/


119 Gallery, 119 Chelmsford St, Lowell MA 01851
978-452-8138



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My videos can be viewed at
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" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley

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Just played it in the office, I was the first to arrive and as people
came in, un packing their laptops, sitting down, no one spoke, till it
finished.. no one asked what it was, but they waited til it finished,
then the morning began as normal... Like a glass of mint tea, it was a
nice and refreshing start to the day!!! Thank-you..

Of course, its not really MY kind of music, extremely cute, and rather
sentimental, but... well... Damn....
Two months earlier I would have paid you to use this on an
environmental program my company has just done... shame.

Mark

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
> Hi list,
> I recorded a fairy tale like live improv when I was rehearsing tonight. I
> have added it to the podcast on iTunes (see mp3 page on my website) or
> simply click here http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/11_Sunshine.mp3
>
> Enjoy this sunny day :)
>
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
>
>
>
>
>
>



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> Marc Francombe wrote:
> Of course, its not really MY kind of music, extremely cute, and rather
> sentimental, but... well... Damn....

Thanks. Well, I never know what I end up with when doing a live improv ;)=
 I choose a sound (in this case a Celtic flute), I hit "record" and there=
 we go. But my musical taste is very wide so depending on the people I pl=
ay with, the result will vary a lot so it could have been some progressiv=
e rock.

> Two months earlier I would have paid you to use this on an
> environmental program my company has just done... shame.

Tip: use it for the next program ;)

--- 
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http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw


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>> Two months earlier I would have paid you to use this on an
>> environmental program my company has just done... shame.
>
> Tip: use it for the next program ;)
>
> ---
> Sjaak


The next program is an anti-drug and alcohol program... I think I'll
be doing that music! ha ha!
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> The next program is an anti-drug and alcohol program... I think I'll
> be doing that music! ha ha!

Hey Marc, you're from the UK isn't it? I always liked English humor! But =
perhaps they feel even more miserable after listening too this sentimenta=
l fairy tale music...poor poor people ;) 

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Yes, I'm from the UK, I live in Oslo Norway, though, have done for 12
years now... so I'm not sure if my English Humour is still intact,  my
spelling is though, despite the fact that my computer tries to tell me
that humour is spelt humor...

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
>> The next program is an anti-drug and alcohol program... I think I'll
>> be doing that music! ha ha!
>
> Hey Marc, you're from the UK isn't it? I always liked English humor! But =
perhaps they feel even more miserable after listening too this sentimental =
fairy tale music...poor poor people ;)
>
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
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Hi Dirk,
I´ve noticed you´ve done a couple of concerts in Germany (Berlin etc.),
Benelux  and Eastern countries a few years ago. 2006 ?  In galeries and so.
Was it successful?
I always find it difficult getting decent gigs for me
being alone on stage, just me, guitar, synth, pedals.
Also have problems to describe my music to promoters.
Very different stuff, like my mood is varying from day to day.
One day: ambient / chill sounds , next day more weirdo/experimental stuff.
Do you or anyone else know some loop-friendly venues in Germany
and other countries (Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland etc.)? I´m from
Cologne.
Have a nice day!
Christo
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota

----- Original Message -----
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> hi,
>
> I'm back on the list after years of abscence.  I'm Dirk and have been
> fascinated with loops since day one.
> Since 1984 I made music under my pseudonym vidnaObmana till 2005 when
> I felt that the story was told.  Since then I've been expanding my
> universe under the fear falls burning banner creating more heavy and
> guitar-oriented looped drones.  Last year I finally released my most
> personal album 'microphonics I-V' under my own name on the Dutch
> tonefloat label (180gram vinyl).
> It's the microphonics that stripped off all mult-tracking and complex
> looping to a minimal set-up of a selection of Boss pedals, a
> fantastic Gibson Les Paul guitar and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe tube
amplifier.
>
> Looking forward to share thoughts and read the other experiences...
>
> Dirk.
>
>
>
> dirk serries : microphonics I - V
> 180gr vinyl, tonefloat november 2009
> www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics
>


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http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3

Laptop guitar breakfast jam. Dropdown-D tuned DiMarzio Dual Sound
humbucker equipped axe with Mobius AU looper in Apple Mainstage. The
"whammy" is the good old PitchShifter II plug-in played by a FCB1010
MIDI expression pedal.

I'll take a stroll to the music store this afternoon to see how thick
strings I can get in order to tune even lower. C would be awesome...

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Very nice sounds floating around!  could be a scene from a Bond film!

Peace,
Weg

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3
>
> Laptop guitar breakfast jam. Dropdown-D tuned DiMarzio Dual Sound
> humbucker equipped axe with Mobius AU looper in Apple Mainstage. The
> "whammy" is the good old PitchShifter II plug-in played by a FCB1010
> MIDI expression pedal.
>
> I'll take a stroll to the music store this afternoon to see how thick
> strings I can get in order to tune even lower. C would be awesome...
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>


-- 
Greg Wegmann

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<div>Very nice sounds floating around!=A0 could be a scene from a Bond film=
!</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Peace,</div>
<div>Weg<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Per Boysen <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.=
com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3" target=3D"_blank">http://www.perboysen.com/=
red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3</a><br>
<br>Laptop guitar breakfast jam. Dropdown-D tuned DiMarzio Dual Sound<br>hu=
mbucker equipped axe with Mobius AU looper in Apple Mainstage. The<br>&quot=
;whammy&quot; is the good old PitchShifter II plug-in played by a FCB1010<b=
r>
MIDI expression pedal.<br><br>I&#39;ll take a stroll to the music store thi=
s afternoon to see how thick<br>strings I can get in order to tune even low=
er. C would be awesome...<br><br>Greetings from Sweden<br><font color=3D"#8=
88888"><br>
Per Boysen<br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se/" target=3D"_blank">www.boyse=
n.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.per=
boysen.com</a><br><br></font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-=
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Greg Wegmann<br><br>TheWeg@Verizon.net <br>TheWeg@GMail.com<br><br>

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Very nice for the Rainy West Virginia day!  Soothing!

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:

> Hi list,
> I recorded a fairy tale like live improv when I was rehearsing tonight. I
> have added it to the podcast on iTunes (see mp3 page on my website) or
> simply click here http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/11_Sunshine.mp3
>
> Enjoy this sunny day :)
>
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Very nice for the Rainy West Virginia day!=A0 Soothing!<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Sjaak <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@scarlet.be">tcplugin@scarlet.be</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi list,<br>I recorded a fairy t=
ale like live improv when I was rehearsing tonight. I<br>have added it to t=
he podcast on iTunes (see mp3 page on my website) or<br>
simply click here <a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/11_Sunsh=
ine.mp3" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/11_Sunshin=
e.mp3</a><br><br>Enjoy this sunny day :)<br><br>---<br><font color=3D"#8888=
88">Sjaak<br>
<a href=3D"http://sjaakovergaauw.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://sjaakoverga=
auw.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank">http=
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COOL=2C Very nice I enjoyed that!!!=20

let me know if you want to borrow a 27" scale Soloway Swan for those low tu=
ned things... with that scale lenght a 012 electric set would work in a low=
 C tuning=2C i have used 010 for D=2C a bit loose but still MUCH better tha=
n with a standard strat/tele style scale

=20

Are you giong to see David Torn/Prezens in Malm=F6 on sunday???

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Thanks for the nice jam/tune...



Anders
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> From: perboysen@gmail.com
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> http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3
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> Laptop guitar breakfast jam. Dropdown-D tuned DiMarzio Dual Sound
> humbucker equipped axe with Mobius AU looper in Apple Mainstage. The
> "whammy" is the good old PitchShifter II plug-in played by a FCB1010
> MIDI expression pedal.
>=20
> I'll take a stroll to the music store this afternoon to see how thick
> strings I can get in order to tune even lower. C would be awesome...
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> Greetings from Sweden
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> www.boysen.se
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> http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3

Nice pitchShifter effect Per. Is that a Mainstage plugin? 
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Hi ANders,

I doubt I could adapt to a borrowed instrument, but many thanks for
your generous offer! I just bought a package of Ernie Ball Not Even
Slinky to keep down under (012 to 056). Would love to se Torn i Malm=C3=B6
but I have too little money and too little time with work deadlines
coming up around that weekend.

Per


On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Anders Bergdahl
<anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
> COOL, Very nice I enjoyed that!!!
> let me know if you want to borrow a 27" scale Soloway=C2=A0Swan for those=
 low
> tuned things...=C2=A0with that=C2=A0scale lenght a 012 electric set would=
 work in a
> low C tuning, i have used 010 for D, a bit loose but still MUCH better th=
an
> with a standard strat/tele style scale
>
> Are you giong to see David Torn/Prezens in Malm=C3=B6 on sunday???
>
> Thanks for the nice jam/tune...
>
>
> Anders
>
>> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:22:18 +0200
>> Subject: Quick looping impro recorded on the fly....
>> From: perboysen@gmail.com
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>
>> http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3
>>
>> Laptop guitar breakfast jam. Dropdown-D tuned DiMarzio Dual Sound
>> humbucker equipped axe with Mobius AU looper in Apple Mainstage. The
>> "whammy" is the good old PitchShifter II plug-in played by a FCB1010
>> MIDI expression pedal.
>>
>> I'll take a stroll to the music store this afternoon to see how thick
>> strings I can get in order to tune even lower. C would be awesome...
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>>
>

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enjoyed it - especially liked that scraping percussion thingie.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:

> > http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3
>
> Nice pitchShifter effect Per. Is that a Mainstage plugin?
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
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enjoyed it - especially liked that scraping percussion thingie.<br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Sjaak <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@scarlet.be">tcplugin@scarlet.be</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3</a><br>

<br>
</div>Nice pitchShifter effect Per. Is that a Mainstage plugin?<br>
---<br>
Sjaak<br>
<a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.=
com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://sjaakovergaauw.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://sjaakoverga=
auw.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw</a><br>
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
> Nice pitchShifter effect Per. Is that a Mainstage plugin?

Yes. "PitchShifter II" has been part of Logic for ages. So now it's in
Mainstage. People that produce clean recordings tend to not like it
because of its crappy fidelity but I think it works fine in an effect
chain going: "PitchShifter II, Compressor, Amp Sim". The MIDI
expression pedal is assigned to three parameters: (1) Pitch, (2) Mix
of dry and wet PitchShifter II (so I only get 15% pitched sound added
to the dry guitar sound when pitching it down one octave and 100%
pitched sound, with no dry guitar sound, at the top where it goes up
one octave), (3) a send knob to a bus with a cool stereo delay
(opening the effect send as pitch goes higher, in order to not create
any delay effect as I do the low octave metal notes).


Warren Sirota:
> enjoyed it - especially liked that scraping percussion thingie.

Yep, me too :-)   That's the PitchShifter II jumping in half-note
steps whammy bar bent harmonics. The "between" pitch area where both
direct signal and wet pitch signal are heard is clashing fine in the
Amp Sim distortion at close intervals. I love this non-harmonic sound,
first heard (by me) in really early Chick Corea recordings where he
runs a Fender Rhodes through a distorting guitar stack. The half-note
stepping of the Pitch-Shifter II give a sort of Miles Davis vibe that
I also like a lot. It's funny; you pick just one harmonic on the
guitar and keep moving your foot a couple of millimeters on the pedal
while detuning the string a few cents with the whammy bar. Very
delicate playing, almost physically non-detectable ;-))

Per

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
> especially liked that scraping percussion thingie.

Me too, what IS that Per?

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> Warren Sirota:
>> enjoyed it - especially liked that scraping percussion thingie.

mark francombe
> Me too, what IS that Per?

>
> Yep, me too :-)   That's the PitchShifter

Eh,,, maybe you guys are talking about the
down-tuned-guitar-through-amp-sim scrape that is part of the first
loop I made (that I then multiplied while layering the wha-wha
chords). What you hear is the guitar with 15% one octave down
PitchShifter II through the Amp Sim plug-in. And the scraping sound
comes from me playing two strings at the same time with the dist. Dist
really comes out in a beautiful way when tuning down guitars. This
sound is sort of metal style; lots of base and not so much mid and
just enough of treble. The guitar pick-up is also important, the
DiMarzio Dual Sound and I do not use it in its high output option but
rather with the coils in parallel; hence the scraping attack when
palm-muting the string with the right hand. This pickup is a bit
similar to a Fender Jazzmaster's sound but since this guitar is an old
Casio MG510 it has more of a Gibson SG body resonance to it (although
that Casio model was a Strat copy, don't ask me why it sounds
"SG-ish")

per

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Enjoyed that.

Good morning music to go with coffee.

Raises the spirits on a grey dy.

Ted

> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
>> Hi list,
>> I recorded a fairy tale like live improv when I was rehearsing 
>> tonight. I
>> have added it to the podcast on iTunes (see mp3 page on my website) or
>> simply click here 
>> http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/11_Sunshine.mp3
>>
>> Enjoy this sunny day :)
>>
>> ---
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>> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
>> http://euroloopfest.com/
>> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Great stuff as usual Per.

It was just too short.

I want more.

On Apr 15, 2009, at 5:22 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3
>
> Laptop guitar breakfast jam. Dropdown-D tuned DiMarzio Dual Sound
> humbucker equipped axe with Mobius AU looper in Apple Mainstage. The
> "whammy" is the good old PitchShifter II plug-in played by a FCB1010
> MIDI expression pedal.
>
> I'll take a stroll to the music store this afternoon to see how thick
> strings I can get in order to tune even lower. C would be awesome...
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
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Nice way to start the day, thanks Per
cool kind of noir feel.

Jeff


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> http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3
> 
> Laptop guitar breakfast jam. Dropdown-D tuned DiMarzio Dual Sound
> humbucker equipped axe with Mobius AU looper in Apple Mainstage. The
> "whammy" is the good old PitchShifter II plug-in played by a FCB1010
> MIDI expression pedal.
> 
> I'll take a stroll to the music store this afternoon to see how thick
> strings I can get in order to tune even lower. C would be awesome...
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> 
>

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----- Original Message ----- 
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> Just played it in the office, I was the first to arrive and as people
> came in, un packing their laptops, sitting down, no one spoke, till it
> finished.. no one asked what it was, but they waited til it finished,
> then the morning began as normal... Like a glass of mint tea, it was a
> nice and refreshing start to the day!!! Thank-you..

I liked that story Mark, nice, I was listening to the tune and reading what 
you said. I could see it unfold just like that.

Thanks for the nice start to my day Sjaak! Beautiful tune.

Jeff 

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Nice, but TOO SHORT! :)

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Nice way to start the day, thanks Per
> cool kind of noir feel.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
> To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:22 AM
> Subject: Quick looping impro recorded on the fly....
>
>
>> http://www.perboysen.com/red_devil_on_mainstage.mp3
>>
>> Laptop guitar breakfast jam. Dropdown-D tuned DiMarzio Dual Sound
>> humbucker equipped axe with Mobius AU looper in Apple Mainstage. The
>> "whammy" is the good old PitchShifter II plug-in played by a FCB1010
>> MIDI expression pedal.
>>
>> I'll take a stroll to the music store this afternoon to see how thick
>> strings I can get in order to tune even lower. C would be awesome...
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>>
>>
>
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nice, but TOO SHORT! :)

Thanks, but it was just a plug-and-play thing I mocked up when playing
the looper. As I liked this combination of sounds and moods I reached
over and hit "record" to keep a memory of the sketch. May grow into
something more finished in the future.

per

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Awesome.  Nice work.

Reid
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sjaak" <tcplugin@scarlet.be>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: When you wake up 


Hi list,
I recorded a fairy tale like live improv when I was rehearsing tonight. I
have added it to the podcast on iTunes (see mp3 page on my website) or
simply click here http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/11_Sunshine.mp3

Enjoy this sunny day :)

--- 
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http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ 
http://euroloopfest.com/ 
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Hi Sjaak,

I like your choice of tones.
I'm trying to get a similar sound with guitar.

Andre

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On Tue, April 14, 2009 6:54 pm, Sjaak wrote:
> Hi list,
> I recorded a fairy tale like live improv when I was rehearsing tonight. I
> have added it to the podcast on iTunes (see mp3 page on my website) or
> simply click here http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/11_Sunshine.mp3
>
> Enjoy this sunny day :)
>
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
>
>
>
>
>
>





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wow... that's really great Sjaak...

Teddy
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On Apr 14, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Sjaak wrote:

> Hi list,
> I recorded a fairy tale like live improv when I was rehearsing  
> tonight. I
> have added it to the podcast on iTunes (see mp3 page on my website) or
> simply click here http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/ 
> 11_Sunshine.mp3
>
> Enjoy this sunny day :)
>
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
>
>
>
>
>

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First of all, looks like many of you liked my live improv "Sunshine", so
thanks for all your compliments :)

> Andr=E9 Donawa wrote:
> I like your choice of tones.
> I'm trying to get a similar sound with guitar.

What do you exactly mean by "tones"? Here are some details about how
"Sunshine" has been made:

Loop 1: 1-2 sec short loop using a Celtic flute sample, played half =
speed
Loop 2: 10-20 loop using the same Celtic flute sample
Loop 3: 40-45 sec loop with 60% feedback: piano, strings and some FX =
sounds

Btw: the sounds were all Logic Mainstage plugins (samples and FX), =
looping
was done with the LP1.
---=20
Sjaak
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20
http://euroloopfest.com/=20
http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw



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Hey night owls, try this one!
http://www.perboysen.com/second_red_devil_on_mainsta.mp3

Short but loud. And low... I'm down at drop-C now and think I'll stay
there. This quick looping was just a sound check, I'm make some more
planned music later with these mega thick strings (012 to 056 set).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
gotta stop this bass fling now - neighbors... ;-)

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>http://www.perboysen.com/second_red_devil_on_mainsta.mp3

... mega thick strings (012 to 056 set).
>Per Boysen


"mega thick"? 

i use 020 to 070 on me lespaul-what shall we call these gauges?
s



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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-live-kipple-show

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:44 PM, =C2=A0<stanitarium@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "mega thick"?
>
> i use 020 to 070 on me lespaul-what shall we call these gauges?
> s


LOL - you win!
I was relating to a 010 set that I use on the strat ;-)

p
as in fat

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> From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] 
> Yes. "PitchShifter II" has been part of Logic for ages. So 
> now it's in Mainstage. People that produce clean recordings 
> tend to not like it because of its crappy fidelity but I 
> think it works fine in an effect chain going: "PitchShifter 
> II, Compressor, Amp Sim". The MIDI expression pedal is 
> assigned to three parameters: (1) Pitch, (2) Mix of dry and 
> wet PitchShifter II (so I only get 15% pitched sound added to 
> the dry guitar sound when pitching it down one octave and 
> 100% pitched sound, with no dry guitar sound, at the top 
> where it goes up one octave), (3) a send knob to a bus with a 
> cool stereo delay (opening the effect send as pitch goes 
> higher, in order to not create any delay effect as I do the 
> low octave metal notes).

I use "PitchShifter II" too. I certainly will try your suggestions as they
differ a lot from how I use it...and that's always interesting. Thanks!

--- 
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Very cool - watching now

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On 15 Apr 2009, at 21:48, mark francombe wrote:

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me too...nice stuff

Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131 =A0 http://www.cdbaby.co=
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--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:

From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: live from norway
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 4:27 PM

=0AVery cool - watching now
 Matt Stevenswww.mattstevensguitar.commattstevensguitar@btinternet.com


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> <address>Johnston, IA&nbsp; 50131</address> <address>&nbsp;</address> <ad=
dress><a rel=3D"nofollow" style=3D"font-weight: bold;" target=3D"_blank" hr=
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</a><br><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"></span><span style=3D"color:=
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pan class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1230810272_0"></span></a></address></div>=
<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 4/15/09, Matt Stevens <i>&lt;mattstevensguitar@btint=
ernet.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid=
 rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Matt Ste=
vens &lt;mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com&gt;<br>Subject: Re: live from nor=
way<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Date: Wednesday, April 15=
, 2009, 4:27 PM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv272413559">=0AVery cool - watching now=
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s: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div>Matt Stevens</div><div>www.mattstevensguitar=
.com</div><div><a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btin=
ternet.com" target=3D"_blank"
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ar@btinternet.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br class=3D"Apple-interch=
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v><div>On 15 Apr 2009, at 21:48, mark francombe wrote:</div><br class=3D"Ap=
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x;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/cha=
nnel/the-live-kipple-show">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-live-kipple-sh=
ow</a></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div st=
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/div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;">www.markfrancombe.com</div><div style=3D"m=
argin: 0px;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://vimeo.com=
/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px=
;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"
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er/markfrancombe</a></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">http://www.m=
yspace.com/markfrancombe</a></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a rel=3D"nof=
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> Hey night owls, try this one! 
> http://www.perboysen.com/second_red_devil_on_mainsta.mp3

Lol :) That's why I love this list. 
--- 
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Hi Sjaak,

By tones, I just meant your choice of sounds that work well together.
Thanks for the insight into the building of your sound, gives some ideas
to try. I'm still new to the process of manipulating the loops.

Andre

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On Wed, April 15, 2009 4:08 pm, Sjaak wrote:
> First of all, looks like many of you liked my live improv "Sunshine", so
> thanks for all your compliments :)
>
>> André Donawa wrote:
>> I like your choice of tones.
>> I'm trying to get a similar sound with guitar.
>
> What do you exactly mean by "tones"? Here are some details about how
> "Sunshine" has been made:
>
> Loop 1: 1-2 sec short loop using a Celtic flute sample, played half speed
> Loop 2: 10-20 loop using the same Celtic flute sample
> Loop 3: 40-45 sec loop with 60% feedback: piano, strings and some FX
> sounds
>
> Btw: the sounds were all Logic Mainstage plugins (samples and FX), looping
> was done with the LP1.
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
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>
>



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Hi Mark,

2 Cool.
Digging.
Love the lights.

Andre

On Wed, April 15, 2009 4:48 pm, mark francombe wrote:
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-live-kipple-show
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> --
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> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch
>
>



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Hey Per,

That's a killer groove.
Off the wall pitch bending.
Love it.

Andre
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On Wed, April 15, 2009 4:38 pm, Per Boysen wrote:
> Hey night owls, try this one!
> http://www.perboysen.com/second_red_devil_on_mainsta.mp3
>
> Short but loud. And low... I'm down at drop-C now and think I'll stay
> there. This quick looping was just a sound check, I'm make some more
> planned music later with these mega thick strings (012 to 056 set).
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> gotta stop this bass fling now - neighbors... ;-)
>
>





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Mark again good show, I too loved the lights and sense of space as I said i=
n
the chat.  I play (in NY) many a noisy train station, playing, train coming=
,
stopping ears, play some more and though a good venue is always a welcome,
have been in some when it's me and the staff so the idea of a webcast live
which I've been watching for an op for awhile is intriguing.  In the past
it's been a question of bandwidth and price.  Now thanks to advertising it
seems and success of YouTube others, maybe it's arrived for the common
man/woman.

Musically great to hear you today.  Im at work so I had to come and go but
finally had a few minutes - great stuff, thick and cerebral...

Good day/night there.

Jim

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Andr=E9 Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com> wro=
te:

> Hi Mark,
>
> 2 Cool.
> Digging.
> Love the lights.
>
> Andre
>
> On Wed, April 15, 2009 4:48 pm, mark francombe wrote:
> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-live-kipple-show
> >
> > --
> > www.markfrancombe.com
> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
> >
> >
>
>
>
> http://www.andredonawa.com
> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
>
>


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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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<div>Mark again good show, I too loved the lights and sense of space as I s=
aid in the chat.=A0 I play (in NY) many a noisy train station, playing, tra=
in coming, stopping ears, play some more and though a good venue is always =
a welcome, have been in some when it&#39;s me and the staff so the idea of =
a webcast live which I&#39;ve been watching for an op for awhile is intrigu=
ing.=A0 In the past it&#39;s been a question of bandwidth and price.=A0 Now=
 thanks to advertising it seems and success of YouTube others, maybe it&#39=
;s arrived for the common man/woman.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Musically great to hear you today.=A0 Im at work so I had to come and =
go but finally had a few minutes - great stuff, thick and cerebral...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Good day/night there.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Jim<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Andr=E9 Donawa =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:andre@andredonawa.com">andre@andred=
onawa.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi Mark,<br><br>2 Cool.<br>Diggi=
ng.<br>Love the lights.<br><br>Andre<br>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>On Wed, April 15, 2009 4:48 pm, mark francombe wrote:=
<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-live-kipple-show" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-live-kipple-show</a><br>&g=
t;<br>
&gt; --<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" target=3D"_blank"=
>www.markfrancombe.com</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" =
target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D"http:/=
/uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">http://uk.youtube.com=
/user/markfrancombe</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.n=
o/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch" target=3D"_blank">http://www.l=
ooop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch</a><br>
&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br><br><br></div></div><a href=3D"http://www.andredonawa.c=
om/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.andredonawa.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://=
cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://cdbaby.com/all/andredo=
nawa</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.myspace.com/andredonawa</a><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all=
"><br>-- <br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">ww=
w.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<br>

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darn, I was working and missed it! Will it be availiable for later viewing?

Jeff

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> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-live-kipple-show
> 
> -- 
> www.markfrancombe.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch
> 
>

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it'll be extremelly cool when audio-video-tele-bedroom-jams arrive ...

2009/4/16 Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>

> darn, I was working and missed it! Will it be availiable for later viewing?
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" <
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> To: "loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:48 PM
> Subject: live from norway
>
>
>
>  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-live-kipple-show
>>
>> --
>> www.markfrancombe.com
>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
>> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
>> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch
>>
>>
>>
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it&#39;ll be extremelly cool when audio-video-tele-bedroom-jams arrive ...<=
br><br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/4/16 Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">darn, I was worki=
ng and missed it! Will it be availiable for later viewing?<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;mark francombe&quot; &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancombe.com=
</a>&gt;<br>
To: &quot;loopers-delight&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&g=
t;<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:48 PM<br>
Subject: live from norway<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-live-kipple-show" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-live-kipple-show</a><br>
<br>
-- <br>
<a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancomb=
e.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/=
user825094</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">http=
://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy=
nch</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell=
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logspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collecti=
ve.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
<br>

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I'm already there in thought and wondering about streaming a NinJam multiple
source feed into a ustream account...

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

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Very nice Per is what is that Lo-fi drum loop in the background?


www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> Subject: When you wanna stay awake!!!! (was: Re: When you wake up)
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 1:38 PM
> Hey night owls, try this one!
> http://www.perboysen.com/second_red_devil_on_mainsta.mp3
> 
> Short but loud. And low... I'm down at drop-C now and think
> I'll stay
> there. This quick looping was just a sound check, I'm make
> some more
> planned music later with these mega thick strings (012 to
> 056 set).
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> gotta stop this bass fling now - neighbors... ;-)
> 
> 


      

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Well, that's just a drum loop... I first did the guitar looping while
recording. Then I mixed in the drum loop halfway through the clip. The
beginning is just me throwing a hi cut filter on the looper, just to
show what awesome bass frequencies the drop-C guitar provides.

per



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:41 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Very nice Per is what is that Lo-fi drum loop in the background?
>
>
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
>> Subject: When you wanna stay awake!!!! (was: Re: When you wake up)
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 1:38 PM
>> Hey night owls, try this one!
>> http://www.perboysen.com/second_red_devil_on_mainsta.mp3
>>
>> Short but loud. And low... I'm down at drop-C now and think
>> I'll stay
>> there. This quick looping was just a sound check, I'm make
>> some more
>> planned music later with these mega thick strings (012 to
>> 056 set).
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> gotta stop this bass fling now - neighbors... ;-)
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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Wow me live in Oslo too :) Great to have a fellow looper here. Maybe =
some looping gig together?
Jan=20

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Yes, I'm from the UK, I live in Oslo Norway, though, have done for 12
years now... so I'm not sure if my English Humour is still intact,  my
spelling is though, despite the fact that my computer tries to tell me
that humour is spelt humor...

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
>> The next program is an anti-drug and alcohol program... I think I'll
>> be doing that music! ha ha!
>
> Hey Marc, you're from the UK isn't it? I always liked English humor! =
But perhaps they feel even more miserable after listening too this =
sentimental fairy tale music...poor poor people ;)
>
> ---
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> http://euroloopfest.com/
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AFTERGLOW ON WMUH:                      http://soundscapes.us/afterglow
=======================================================================
Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) every
Thursday morning.  Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical
genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock.  Tune in at 91.7
FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram

On today's program, you'll hear new music from Mindgames and Roine
Stolt's project, Agents of Mercy.

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Hi guys,

I'll be performing my live looping show in London next week and thought I'd
give a quick shout out here if anyone is interested in coming along! The
performance is part of the Enterprise Festival at The Space - there's a
FaceBook Event page here for more details:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/event.php?eid=69407899518&ref=mf

Thanks very much!

Kayla

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Oh yeah that is the next logical step! it's so close to reality I can =
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Jeff
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hi Christo,

Well, the tours have been always educational but with varying success from
large audiences to almost nobody.  From nice venues to scrappy galeries.
Most of those concerts I was able to book due to my history with my
previous project vidnaObmana, others I did research for on the internet.

Sjaak, who is also on this list, is one of the Belgian forerunners in the
looping circuit.  http://www.euroloopfest.com/
Cologne-based looping artist Michael Peters is very active in the circuit
and might be able to help you with ideas/suggestions in your
neighboorhood.
http://www.michaelpeters.de

I'm trying now to set up a tour for my microphonics project and it's
clearly starting back from scratch with researching venues online,
collecting addresses, etc.

Good luck and keep us posted,
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:45 PM,  <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/04/handmade_music_bent_edition_-_tonig.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890


Yep, that was interesting. Thanks for posting the link! I noticed that
according to the documentary most folks tend to rather make "sound"
than "music" with all that lovely circuit bent stuff. I guess that's
the dilemma Peter Edwards addresses when saying "I'm taking it to the
next level" ;-))

I'm not doing circuit bending myself, but I play with a circuit bender
in the Lo Fi Lazer duo and love it when noise is presented in a way
that makes music beyond tonality and metric rhythm.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:45 PM,  <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
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>> handmade_music_bent_edition_-_tonig.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890

Good stuff.  Time to raid the kid's closets!

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By the way.... did you notice that the paper punch card ribbon was
twisted into a MOBIUS LOOP!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Subject: Phiew.... guitar intonation - hard work!
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I had my daily share of frustration today when fine tuning the string
length intonation on my fretted drop-B guitar. With the thicker
strings it seems the stings need to be just a little bit longer. Five
strings are good now, but for the G string (or D as this instrument is
tuned) the mounting of the stratocaster style bridge/tailpiece/whammy
does not allow the sting length needed for correct intonation. What a
disaster! I need to look for a smaller string slider block (or
whatever you call them...) to get the extra need millimeter string
length. Boy, do I enjoy the sweet relief of plugging in my fretless
for while after two hours of desperate intonation work!

Is this "a known fact" that thicker strings need to be longer? The
action and string pull is the same as before - but the intonation is
just a different universe compare to the previous normal tuning.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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for anyone going to Coachella this weekend....

i'm performing with Amanda Palmer on Saturday. 5pm in the Gobi tent.  
we'll be doing a looped cello version of Muse's "Time is Running Out",  
among other songs...

celloly yours,

zoe

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> Dirk wrote:
> Sjaak, who is also on this list, is one of the Belgian=20
> forerunners in the looping circuit. =20

I'll do my best ;)=20

Btw: Christo, Dirk is one of the artists on the Antwerp looping =
festival. So
I sugggest you come over to here on Saturday May 30, and meet with both
loopers and fans from several countries including Germany. Btw: Michael
Peters (Cologne) is another artist who will play here. I did the same =
last
year: I drove to Cologne to visit the Michael's festival
http://livelooping.de/. I met with Dirk, Fabio, Luis and Rick and see =
what's
happening now in Antwerp and Rome this year. And although it's not easy =
to
organize events like this, it's a relief to discover that there more
"looping brothers and sisters" who play sometimes weird music ;)

---=20
Sjaak
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20
http://euroloopfest.com/=20
http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw







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Per Boysen wrote:
> I had my daily share of frustration today when fine tuning the string
> length intonation on my fretted drop-B guitar. With the thicker
> strings it seems the stings need to be just a little bit longer. Five
> strings are good now, but for the G string (or D as this instrument is
> tuned) the mounting of the stratocaster style bridge/tailpiece/whammy
> does not allow the sting length needed for correct intonation. What a
> disaster! I need to look for a smaller string slider block (or
> whatever you call them...) to get the extra need millimeter string
> length. Boy, do I enjoy the sweet relief of plugging in my fretless
> for while after two hours of desperate intonation work!
> 
> Is this "a known fact" that thicker strings need to be longer? The
> action and string pull is the same as before - but the intonation is
> just a different universe compare to the previous normal tuning.
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com


Oh yeah, just search for intonation on sevenstring.org ;)
This is why many opt for 27" and beyond when downtuning: Longer scale 
means more tension, so thinner strings can be used, resulting in better 
intonation and a crisper tone with more piano-like attack.

It gets even more interesting with 8-stringers and beyond :D
Then the problem with too thin upper strings pops up.
The natural cure is to use multi/compound scale AKA fanned frets, which 
of course doesn't help anything on your Strat..

-- 
rgds,
van Sinn

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for awesomeness, i once had .130 for a low Bb on a stick ... now .100

2009/4/16 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> Well, that's just a drum loop... I first did the guitar looping while
> recording. Then I mixed in the drum loop halfway through the clip. The
> beginning is just me throwing a hi cut filter on the looper, just to
> show what awesome bass frequencies the drop-C guitar provides.
>
> per
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:41 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Very nice Per is what is that Lo-fi drum loop in the background?
> >
> >
> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> >> Subject: When you wanna stay awake!!!! (was: Re: When you wake up)
> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 1:38 PM
> >> Hey night owls, try this one!
> >> http://www.perboysen.com/second_red_devil_on_mainsta.mp3
> >>
> >> Short but loud. And low... I'm down at drop-C now and think
> >> I'll stay
> >> there. This quick looping was just a sound check, I'm make
> >> some more
> >> planned music later with these mega thick strings (012 to
> >> 056 set).
> >>
> >> Greetings from Sweden
> >>
> >> Per Boysen
> >> gotta stop this bass fling now - neighbors... ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

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for awesomeness, i once had .130 for a low Bb on a stick ... now .100<br><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/4/16 Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Well, that&#39;s just a drum loop... I first did the guitar looping while<b=
r>
recording. Then I mixed in the drum loop halfway through the clip. The<br>
beginning is just me throwing a hi cut filter on the looper, just to<br>
show what awesome bass frequencies the drop-C guitar provides.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
per<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:41 AM, L.Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:labaloops@y=
ahoo.com">labaloops@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Very nice Per is what is that Lo-fi drum loop in the background?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" target=3D"_blank">www=
.myspace.com/luisangulocom</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Per Boysen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.=
com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; From: Per Boysen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboy=
sen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: When you wanna stay awake!!!! (was: Re: When you wake up)=
<br>
&gt;&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers=
-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 1:38 PM<br>
&gt;&gt; Hey night owls, try this one!<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com/second_red_devil_on_mainsta.mp=
3" target=3D"_blank">http://www.perboysen.com/second_red_devil_on_mainsta.m=
p3</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Short but loud. And low... I&#39;m down at drop-C now and think<br=
>
&gt;&gt; I&#39;ll stay<br>
&gt;&gt; there. This quick looping was just a sound check, I&#39;m make<br>
&gt;&gt; some more<br>
&gt;&gt; planned music later with these mega thick strings (012 to<br>
&gt;&gt; 056 set).<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Greetings from Sweden<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Per Boysen<br>
&gt;&gt; gotta stop this bass fling now - neighbors... ;-)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell=
 at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.b=
logspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collecti=
ve.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
<br>

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All my guitars have either a D or C low string and my experience has =20
been the same as yours, the string length needs to be almost 1/4 inch =20
longer to get the intonation right on! what a pain!!!

Paulin Ontario


Quoting Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:

> I had my daily share of frustration today when fine tuning the string
> length intonation on my fretted drop-B guitar. With the thicker
> strings it seems the stings need to be just a little bit longer. Five
> strings are good now, but for the G string (or D as this instrument is
> tuned) the mounting of the stratocaster style bridge/tailpiece/whammy
> does not allow the sting length needed for correct intonation. What a
> disaster! I need to look for a smaller string slider block (or
> whatever you call them...) to get the extra need millimeter string
> length. Boy, do I enjoy the sweet relief of plugging in my fretless
> for while after two hours of desperate intonation work!
>
> Is this "a known fact" that thicker strings need to be longer? The
> action and string pull is the same as before - but the intonation is
> just a different universe compare to the previous normal tuning.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>

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GALACTIC TRAVELS                           http://galactictravels.info
======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll
continue the  month-long Special Focus on music recorded at the
Ricochet Gathering.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Space
Cowboys" by Broekhuis, Keller, Schonwalder, Spyra, and Fox on the
Ricochet Dream label.  For details, see the Special Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#apr

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet.

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may i find somebody's (LD) music in spotify?

a friend sent me an invitation to join, but it seems the companies
represented don't have many artists i'm interested in.

at least i could find johnny zorn.

-- 
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may i find somebody&#39;s (LD) music in spotify?<br><br>a friend sent me an invitation to join, but it seems the companies<br>represented don&#39;t have many artists i&#39;m interested in.<br><br>at least i could find johnny zorn.<br clear="all">
<br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at Blogger: <a href="http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.blogspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href="http://www.ct-collective.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br><br>

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CD Baby recently partnered with Spotify, so any artists that sell though 
them should be showing up on Spotify soon.

Ernesto
http://www.ernestoschnack.com

Raul Bonell schrieb:
> may i find somebody's (LD) music in spotify?
>
> a friend sent me an invitation to join, but it seems the companies
> represented don't have many artists i'm interested in.
>
> at least i could find johnny zorn.
>
> -- 
> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>

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> it's a relief to discover that there more "looping brothers and sisters"
who play sometimes weird music ;)

what - weird music? does anyone know what Sjaak's talking about?  ;-)

-Michael

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>> it's a relief to discover that there more "looping brothers and sisters"
> who play sometimes weird music ;)

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> what - weird music? does anyone know what Sjaak's talking about? =C2=A0;-=
)

No fracking idea.
What is...  "weird"?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Ernesto Schnack
<ernesto@haciendalibre.com> wrote:
> CD Baby recently partnered with Spotify


Good news! I've had Spotify installed for ages but can't run the
service because I haven't yet received an invitation from another
user. Is anyone here able to share an invitation?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Great to have this confirmed. Thanks a lot! But I am all in tune on
all strings except the G-string, where I only need one more
millimeter. I think I may get that going by changing the movable
tailpiece for a smaller on, just on that string. I must say I like the
feel and sound of those thick strings! With the B-tuning (low string)
it has transformed that guitar into a a different instrument! And
that's what I like.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:09 AM,  <phaslem@wightman.ca> wrote:
> All my guitars have either a D or C low string and my experience has been
> the same as yours, the string length needs to be almost 1/4 inch longer to
> get the intonation right on! what a pain!!!

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Hello

I just came accross this on the web. Id didn't know about it.
http://www.empresseffects.com/superdelay.php

Has anyone got the chance to try it? It has a looper mode and HPF/LPF + 
modulation in the Feedback loop.

Ben. 


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Hi Zoe

the Amanda Palmer gig was really great. Besides meeting you and seeing you looping, I also really liked her songs (esp. Astronaut, Oasis, Runs in the Family) - I'm listening to the CD every day at the moment!

best regards from Munich
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Per Boysen wrote:
> I had my daily share of frustration today when fine tuning the string
> length intonation on my fretted drop-B guitar. With the thicker
> strings it seems the stings need to be just a little bit longer. Five
> strings are good now, but for the G string (or D as this instrument is
> tuned) the mounting of the stratocaster style bridge/tailpiece/whammy
> does not allow the sting length needed for correct intonation...


Depending on which Fender bridge/whammy type/, it may be possible to 
shorten graphtech.com saddles so they can be moved a bit further back.


-- 
rgds,
van Sinn

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Thanks for inviting me. Will try to make it to Antwerp.
Nice city. Played a show there with my former band
ZEITLOOP at a film/art festival in a huge building - can´t get the name - a
few
years ago. The concert was kinda disappointing as nearly nobody seemed to be
interested that much in our music, but the surrounding things were exciting.
Good atmosphere, nice people, good food...
Christo
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota

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> Dirk wrote:
> Sjaak, who is also on this list, is one of the Belgian
> forerunners in the looping circuit.

I'll do my best ;)

Btw: Christo, Dirk is one of the artists on the Antwerp looping festival. So
I sugggest you come over to here on Saturday May 30, and meet with both
loopers and fans from several countries including Germany. Btw: Michael
Peters (Cologne) is another artist who will play here. I did the same last
year: I drove to Cologne to visit the Michael's festival
http://livelooping.de/. I met with Dirk, Fabio, Luis and Rick and see what's
happening now in Antwerp and Rome this year. And although it's not easy to
organize events like this, it's a relief to discover that there more
"looping brothers and sisters" who play sometimes weird music ;)

---
Sjaak
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
http://euroloopfest.com/
http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw








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Hi my friends!

here is a nice idea from Omid with his new instrument!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs

keep loopin,

ricO.

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me. i fidure out how to do it and send you one.

2009/4/17 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Ernesto Schnack
> <ernesto@haciendalibre.com> wrote:
> > CD Baby recently partnered with Spotify
>
>
> Good news! I've had Spotify installed for ages but can't run the
> service because I haven't yet received an invitation from another
> user. Is anyone here able to share an invitation?
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>


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me. i fidure out how to do it and send you one.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">2009/4/17 Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboys=
en@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt =
0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Ernesto Schnack<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ernesto@haciendalibre.com">ernesto@haciendalibre.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; CD Baby recently partnered with Spotify<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>Good news! I&#39;ve had Spotify installed for ages but can&#39;t run =
the<br>
service because I haven&#39;t yet received an invitation from another<br>
user. Is anyone here able to share an invitation?<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at B=
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m">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
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For what it's worth, here's how I wrapped my head around string construction 
and intonation, and perhaps why Per is having trouble with his axe...

If a string could be reduced to a Platonic ideal, it might have zero mass, 
and the 12th fret would be exactly beneath the half-way point between the 
nut and the bridge. But this ain't the case and, given a set scale length 
and a generally set range of string tension, the strings have to have 
greater mass to achieve lower pitches. The greater the mass, the greater the 
string's pitch changes to a given amount of added tension. That's why, on a 
standard guitar, if you give a half-turn down to the tuning gear of the 
plain .010 high E string, it will drop to a slightly sharp D# (less than a 
half step), while if you do the same to the plain .017 G string, it will 
drop to a flat F natural (over a whole step). Whenever you press the string 
down, you're adding a bit of tension to the string, and in order to 
compensate for this slight pulling-the-string-sharp effect, the string 
length is made a little longer at the bridge saddle. The difference between 
the string masses can be seen at the bridge saddles, where the saddle of the 
plain .010 high E will be just a smidgen past the Platonic Ideal of 
twice-the-12th-fret length, but the saddle of the fatter plain .017 G string 
will be two or three more smidgens longer.
    The wack part of this observation is what happens when you deal with 
wound strings, because the windings add to the pitch-lowering mass of the 
string WITHOUT adding to (or subtracting from) the tension necessary to 
reach their desired pitch. Think of it like this: the windings are like a 
Slinky wrapped around a clothesline. If you pluck the clothesline, it will 
move slower than if it didn't have the Slinky wrapped around it, but it 
won't have any extra tension on it. On the guitar, this means that the 
intonation points for the wound strings are more like the intonation points 
for the core wire than for the actual diameter of the string. The intonation 
point of a wound .026 D string will be closer to the intonation point of its 
core wire, which is probably .014, and NOT the expected many-many smidgens 
of a solid plain .026 string. This explains the typical three-steps 
down-then-three-steps-down-again pattern of a properly intonated bridge 
saddle on a standard-tuned guitar.
    The more you deviate from standard tuning on a standard-designed guitar, 
the more you need to either change string gauges or accept the problems of 
pitch. On my new-standard-tuned Guitar Craft Ovation guitar (tuned 
C-G-D-A-e-g, low to high) I use an .070 for the low C. It is strong and firm 
and equal in response to the other strings, and intonatable within the range 
of the Ovation saddle. Most others of the Guitar Craft cult don't even begin 
to consider this kind of string-swapping, and for years I have felt like the 
only sane one in the asylum for using the strings I do. But that's another 
story.
    Per, could you describe your fretted drop-B guitar a little more? The 
tuning, the guitar type, etc. Maybe I can recommend some string options to 
try...?
Best,

Douglas Baldwin
Alpha Coyote
coyotelk@optonline.net
www.TheCoyote.org

"The purpose of music is to sober and quiet the mind, thus rendering it 
suseptible to divine influences."
-- Thomas Mace (17th century), transmitted to Gita Sarabhai, as told to John 
Cage





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "van Sinn" <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Phiew.... guitar intonation - hard work!


> Per Boysen wrote:
>> I had my daily share of frustration today when fine tuning the string
>> length intonation on my fretted drop-B guitar. With the thicker
>> strings it seems the stings need to be just a little bit longer. Five
>> strings are good now, but for the G string (or D as this instrument is
>> tuned) the mounting of the stratocaster style bridge/tailpiece/whammy
>> does not allow the sting length needed for correct intonation. What a
>> disaster! I need to look for a smaller string slider block (or
>> whatever you call them...) to get the extra need millimeter string
>> length. Boy, do I enjoy the sweet relief of plugging in my fretless
>> for while after two hours of desperate intonation work!
>>
>> Is this "a known fact" that thicker strings need to be longer? The
>> action and string pull is the same as before - but the intonation is
>> just a different universe compare to the previous normal tuning.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>
>
> Oh yeah, just search for intonation on sevenstring.org ;)
> This is why many opt for 27" and beyond when downtuning: Longer scale 
> means more tension, so thinner strings can be used, resulting in better 
> intonation and a crisper tone with more piano-like attack.
>
> It gets even more interesting with 8-stringers and beyond :D
> Then the problem with too thin upper strings pops up.
> The natural cure is to use multi/compound scale AKA fanned frets, which of 
> course doesn't help anything on your Strat..
>
> -- 
> rgds,
> van Sinn
> 


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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Douglas Baldwin <coyotelk@optonline.net> wrote:
> Per, could you describe your fretted drop-B guitar a little more? The
> tuning, the guitar type, etc. Maybe I can recommend some string options to
> try...?


Hi Douglas,

I'm using (low to high) 056, 044, 032, 024 (plain), 016, 012. And I'm
very happy with these strings. Just need to give the G-string one more
millimeter of length by replacing its tailpiece with a smaller one.
But it works fairly well in tune now, just some cents off.

The guitar is a Casio MG-510:
http://www.njaz.com/guitars/casio.htm

This guitar resonates better to this tuning than the normal tuning I
used it with before. I really like B! Not only for looping (doing bass
and stuff on the fly) but for the new way it sounds in general.
Shorter sustain, fatter sound, more prominent attack of notes - I like
all those things!

The pick-up is a DiMarzio Dual Sound. I find its high output mode dull
and only use it with coils in parallel - gives a brighter chord
picking for clean sounds a better "crash" for metal sound attack.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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that is one frakkin' cool instrument. he's a pretty good singer too.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:55 AM, rico diessner <rico@ricoloop.com> wrote:

> Hi my friends!
>
> here is a nice idea from Omid with his new instrument!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs
>
> keep loopin,
>
> ricO.
>
>


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that is one frakkin&#39; cool instrument. he&#39;s a pretty good singer too.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:55 AM, rico diessner <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rico@ricoloop.com">rico@ricoloop.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi my friends!<br>
<br>
here is a nice idea from Omid with his new instrument!<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs</a><br>
<br>
keep loopin,<br><font color="#888888">
<br>
ricO.<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href="http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679">http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679</a><br><a href="http://www.warrensirota.com">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>


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Per wrote:

> Hi Douglas,
>
> I'm using (low to high) 056, 044, 032, 024 (plain), 016, 012. And I'm
> very happy with these strings. Just need to give the G-string one more
> millimeter of length by replacing its tailpiece with a smaller one.
> But it works fairly well in tune now, just some cents off.

Tuned B-E-A-D-F#-B, or thereabouts? Yeah, the .024 plain tuned to D is gonna 
be a floppity-mushy pain. It's at the limit of what can be done with a plain 
string on a 25-1/2" scale. You probably want to bend it, so a wound string 
(an .021 or .022 wound would work) may not be an option. I know your 
musicianship and skill, so you're probably playing with an excellent touch 
and not pulling these strings out of tune with poor technique. If you really 
like the FEEL of these gauges, man, you're just gonna have to physically 
modify the bridge saddle.

Best,
dB 


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I had the superdelay when it first came out. The reverse function has some
pretty interesting sounds with the lp/hp, but I found it to not be that
usable for my style.

If you're looking for a looper, I would look elsewhere. Also, the presets
are a pain to scroll through, and not very well thought out.

I ultimately ended up with a damage control timeline. The superdelay is
pretty cool though.


On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Ruelle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr>wrote:

> Hello
>
> I just came accross this on the web. Id didn't know about it.
> http://www.empresseffects.com/superdelay.php
>
> Has anyone got the chance to try it? It has a looper mode and HPF/LPF +
> modulation in the Feedback loop.
>
> Ben.
>
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I had the superdelay when it first came out. The reverse function has some =
pretty interesting sounds with the lp/hp, but I found it to not be that usa=
ble for my style.<br><br>If you&#39;re looking for a looper, I would look e=
lsewhere. Also, the presets are a pain to scroll through, and not very well=
 thought out.<br>
<br>I ultimately ended up with a damage control timeline. The superdelay is=
 pretty cool though.<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 17, =
2009 at 4:07 AM, Ruelle Benoit <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:beno=
itruelle@yahoo.fr">benoitruelle@yahoo.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello<br>
<br>
I just came accross this on the web. Id didn&#39;t know about it.<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.empresseffects.com/superdelay.php" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.empresseffects.com/superdelay.php</a><br>
<br>
Has anyone got the chance to try it? It has a looper mode and HPF/LPF + mod=
ulation in the Feedback loop.<br>
<br>
Ben. <br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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> Thanks for inviting me. Will try to make it to Antwerp.
> Nice city. Played a show there with my former band
> ZEITLOOP at a film/art festival in a huge building - can=B4t=20
> get the name - a few years ago.=20

I checked the http://www.zeitloop.de website, sounds like a mixture of =
Prog.
rock and Krautrock. I've always been fan of Krautrock bands like Can, =
Neu!
etc and it's a pitty I was too young at the time (I'm 40 now). But =
you're
more than welcome at the festival, Antwerp is very nice city, with =
indeed
good food and excellent beers. And good live looping music ;)

---=20
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http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20
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> >> it's a relief to discover that there more "looping brothers and=20
> >> sisters"
> > who play sometimes weird music ;)
>=20
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> > what - weird music? does anyone know what Sjaak's talking=20
> about? =A0;-)
>=20
> No fracking idea.
> What is...  "weird"?

Lol But it's maybe better that we don't realise we make weird music.
Otherwise we wouldn't play it any longer...ant that would be a pity ;)=20

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link not working here ...

2009/4/17, samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.com>:
>
> http://loopable.wordpress.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The quantity of physical, cosmic energy wealth as radiation (sunlight)
> arriving aboard planet Earth each minute is greater than all the energy
> used annually by all humanity=94.
>  Bucky Fuller
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>  EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD
> Join me


--=20
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So, all the pieces of my system are working together, tho I'm still trying
to work out some of the operational details for live performance - there's a
lot going on.

http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBackInTheAM.mp3

I seem to have a one-man-band obsession. This is a piece with:
*Guitar*: Godin Freeway SA, GR-33
*Mainstage*: processing guitar sounds, mixing in synth sounds from the
GR-33, generating drum sounds when triggered by:
*Ableton Live*: used just as a host to a bunch of MIDI clips at the moment.
I have sets of related clips arranged in a track (only one track active at a
time), using launch actions to let live switch among them. The MIDI clips in
this piece were taken from the Ultrabeat library, via copying
Ultrabeat->Logic and then exporting to midi files and dragging into Live.
Quite a bit of preparation, but it should be very reusable in various ways.
To give additional variation above and beyond the midi clips cycling, I put
the output of the clips through a velocity randomizer in Live before sending
to Mainstage. This is actually surprisingly effective (to me) and actually
interesting to control in real-time, tho I haven't done that on this piece.
*SooperLooper*, running as standalone, 4 loops available
*Max: *used to record 3 stereo tracks (live guitar, loop output, drums), and
also to provide a little glue - he's the one who listens for the Start cmds
issued by SooperLooper and tells Live to activate clip 1, for instance.

and, for plumbing, there's the Jack audio server to get the audio where it
needs to go, and MIDI Patchbay to help out with the midi.

I hope it's worth all the effort! Feels so to me, this is just the start.

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So, all the pieces of my system are working together, tho I&#39;m still try=
ing to work out some of the operational details for live performance - ther=
e&#39;s a lot going on.<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com/Solos=
tuff/KickinBackInTheAM.mp3">http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBac=
kInTheAM.mp3</a><br>
<br>I seem to have a one-man-band obsession. This is a piece with:<br><b>Gu=
itar</b>: Godin Freeway SA, GR-33<br><b>Mainstage</b>: processing guitar so=
unds, mixing in synth sounds from the GR-33, generating drum sounds when tr=
iggered by:<br>
<b>Ableton Live</b>: used just as a host to a bunch of MIDI clips at the mo=
ment. I have sets of related clips arranged in a track (only one track acti=
ve at a time), using launch actions to let live switch among them. The MIDI=
 clips in this piece were taken from the Ultrabeat library, via copying Ult=
rabeat-&gt;Logic and then exporting to midi files and dragging into Live. Q=
uite a bit of preparation, but it should be very reusable in various ways. =
To give additional variation above and beyond the midi clips cycling, I put=
 the output of the clips through a velocity randomizer in Live before sendi=
ng to Mainstage. This is actually surprisingly effective (to me) and actual=
ly interesting to control in real-time, tho I haven&#39;t done that on this=
 piece.<br>
<b>SooperLooper</b>, running as standalone, 4 loops available<br><b>Max: </=
b>used to record 3 stereo tracks (live guitar, loop output, drums), and als=
o to provide a little glue - he&#39;s the one who listens for the Start cmd=
s issued by SooperLooper and tells Live to activate clip 1, for instance.<b=
r>
<br>and, for plumbing, there&#39;s the Jack audio server to get the audio w=
here it needs to go, and MIDI Patchbay to help out with the midi.<br><br>I =
hope it&#39;s worth all the effort! Feels so to me, this is just the start.=
<br>

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Warren that was really cool, really eclectic lines and chordal clusters on
top of the beat.  Particularly like the ending which is like the spray from
a freshly opened bottle of champaign.  Good stuff, going to another stream.
Jim

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>wrote:

> So, all the pieces of my system are working together, tho I'm still trying
> to work out some of the operational details for live performance - there's a
> lot going on.
>
> http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBackInTheAM.mp3
>
> I seem to have a one-man-band obsession. This is a piece with:
> *Guitar*: Godin Freeway SA, GR-33
> *Mainstage*: processing guitar sounds, mixing in synth sounds from the
> GR-33, generating drum sounds when triggered by:
> *Ableton Live*: used just as a host to a bunch of MIDI clips at the
> moment. I have sets of related clips arranged in a track (only one track
> active at a time), using launch actions to let live switch among them. The
> MIDI clips in this piece were taken from the Ultrabeat library, via copying
> Ultrabeat->Logic and then exporting to midi files and dragging into Live.
> Quite a bit of preparation, but it should be very reusable in various ways.
> To give additional variation above and beyond the midi clips cycling, I put
> the output of the clips through a velocity randomizer in Live before sending
> to Mainstage. This is actually surprisingly effective (to me) and actually
> interesting to control in real-time, tho I haven't done that on this piece.
> *SooperLooper*, running as standalone, 4 loops available
> *Max: *used to record 3 stereo tracks (live guitar, loop output, drums),
> and also to provide a little glue - he's the one who listens for the Start
> cmds issued by SooperLooper and tells Live to activate clip 1, for instance.
>
> and, for plumbing, there's the Jack audio server to get the audio where it
> needs to go, and MIDI Patchbay to help out with the midi.
>
> I hope it's worth all the effort! Feels so to me, this is just the start.
>



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Warren that was really cool, really eclectic lines and chordal clusters on =
top of the beat. =A0Particularly like the ending which is like the spray fr=
om a freshly opened bottle of champaign. =A0Good stuff, going to another st=
ream.<div>
<br></div><div>Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 a=
t 9:21 PM, Warren Sirota <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wsirota@ws=
designs.com">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex;">
So, all the pieces of my system are working together, tho I&#39;m still try=
ing to work out some of the operational details for live performance - ther=
e&#39;s a lot going on.<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com/Solos=
tuff/KickinBackInTheAM.mp3" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrensirota.com/S=
olostuff/KickinBackInTheAM.mp3</a><br>

<br>I seem to have a one-man-band obsession. This is a piece with:<br><b>Gu=
itar</b>: Godin Freeway SA, GR-33<br><b>Mainstage</b>: processing guitar so=
unds, mixing in synth sounds from the GR-33, generating drum sounds when tr=
iggered by:<br>

<b>Ableton Live</b>: used just as a host to a bunch of MIDI clips at the mo=
ment. I have sets of related clips arranged in a track (only one track acti=
ve at a time), using launch actions to let live switch among them. The MIDI=
 clips in this piece were taken from the Ultrabeat library, via copying Ult=
rabeat-&gt;Logic and then exporting to midi files and dragging into Live. Q=
uite a bit of preparation, but it should be very reusable in various ways. =
To give additional variation above and beyond the midi clips cycling, I put=
 the output of the clips through a velocity randomizer in Live before sendi=
ng to Mainstage. This is actually surprisingly effective (to me) and actual=
ly interesting to control in real-time, tho I haven&#39;t done that on this=
 piece.<br>

<b>SooperLooper</b>, running as standalone, 4 loops available<br><b>Max: </=
b>used to record 3 stereo tracks (live guitar, loop output, drums), and als=
o to provide a little glue - he&#39;s the one who listens for the Start cmd=
s issued by SooperLooper and tells Live to activate clip 1, for instance.<b=
r>

<br>and, for plumbing, there&#39;s the Jack audio server to get the audio w=
here it needs to go, and MIDI Patchbay to help out with the midi.<br><br>I =
hope it&#39;s worth all the effort! Feels so to me, this is just the start.=
<br>

</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>music links...<br><a hr=
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sic</a><br>
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paintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelect=
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<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/j=
imgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networkin=
g...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodin=
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I’m planning on using the boss rc-50 and midi sync it as slave to a boss
dr-657 drum manchine. Anyone had an opportunity to use these together and
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>wrote:

> Warren that was really cool, really eclectic lines and chordal clusters on
> top of the beat.  Particularly like the ending which is like the spray from
> a freshly opened bottle of champaign.  Good stuff, going to another stream.
> Jim
>

Wow, how poetic! Thank you.



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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Jim Go=
odin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">jimg=
oodinmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0p=
t 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Warren that was really cool, really eclectic lines and chordal clusters on =
top of the beat. =A0Particularly like the ending which is like the spray fr=
om a freshly opened bottle of champaign. =A0Good stuff, going to another st=
ream.<div>

<br></div><div>Jim<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"></div></div></div></blo=
ckquote><div><br>Wow, how poetic! Thank you. <br></div></div><br><br clear=
=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_=
ArtistId=3D6679">http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>

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Warren you're welcome...
Good to hear creative life coming down the Hudson...

j
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Warren that was really cool, really eclectic lines and chordal clusters on
>> top of the beat.  Particularly like the ending which is like the spray from
>> a freshly opened bottle of champaign.  Good stuff, going to another stream.
>> Jim
>>
>
> Wow, how poetic! Thank you.
>
>
>
> --
> Warren
> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679
> http://www.warrensirota.com
>



-- 
music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Warren you&#39;re welcome...=A0<div><br></div><div>Good to hear creative li=
fe coming down the Hudson...</div><div><br></div><div>j<br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Warren Sirota <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div cla=
ss=3D"im">On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Jim Goodin <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinmu=
sic@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
Warren that was really cool, really eclectic lines and chordal clusters on =
top of the beat. =A0Particularly like the ending which is like the spray fr=
om a freshly opened bottle of champaign. =A0Good stuff, going to another st=
ream.<div>


<br></div><div>Jim<div><div></div><div></div></div></div></blockquote></div=
><div><br>Wow, how poetic! Thank you. <br></div></div><font color=3D"#88888=
8"><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"http://www.ubetoo.=
com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ubetoo.com/Ar=
tist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warren=
sirota.com</a><br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>music links...<b=
r><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><=
a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a>=
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>
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  Worked when I clicked the link in yr post



From: raul.bonell@gmail.com
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beautiful piece, warren! spooky synth textures, roots bass, space 
guitar, dubby - all my favorite things...

shayne

> So, all the pieces of my system are working together, tho I'm still 
> trying to work out some of the operational details for live 
> performance - there's a lot going on.
>
> http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBackInTheAM.mp3

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yes..  it works, sorry. wiring from ab usb crappy modem here.

thanx!



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> 2009/4/17, samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.com>:
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>> http://loopable.wordpress.com/


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WOW! how much for the boomerang?

how much to ship to Australia!?

ithanks=2C Andrew

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On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
> http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBackInTheAM.mp3

Nice sound, Warren! I could not understand from your technical rig
description which one of the applications that is providing the master
sync?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Thanks, Per. sync is coming from SooperLooper. One tricky issue is that once
SL starts sending clocks, you can't really get it to stop sending without
reloading. So there's no way to stop Live once it gets started. Instead,
when I hit the Mute button on my footcontroller (for SL), I have Live
interpret that as a "Stop All Clips" command. Then, when I record a new
first loop in SL, or hit the footcontroller for "Trigger", SL sends out a
new Start command. That's meaningless to Live at that point, but Max takes
that command, waits a second (because I want to start drumming on the
*following
*loop), and then sends the MIDI command to Live that is programmed to switch
to Scene 1 (i.e., the first clip).

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>
> wrote:
> > http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBackInTheAM.mp3
>
> Nice sound, Warren! I could not understand from your technical rig
> description which one of the applications that is providing the master
> sync?
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>


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Thanks, Per. sync is coming from SooperLooper. One tricky issue is that onc=
e SL starts sending clocks, you can&#39;t really get it to stop sending wit=
hout reloading. So there&#39;s no way to stop Live once it gets started. In=
stead, when I hit the Mute button on my footcontroller (for SL), I have Liv=
e interpret that as a &quot;Stop All Clips&quot; command. Then, when I reco=
rd a new first loop in SL, or hit the footcontroller for &quot;Trigger&quot=
;, SL sends out a new Start command. That&#39;s meaningless to Live at that=
 point, but Max takes that command, waits a second (because I want to start=
 drumming on the <i>following </i>loop), and then sends the MIDI command to=
 Live that is programmed to switch to Scene 1 (i.e., the first clip).<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Per Boysen =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddin=
g-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Warren Sirota &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBackInTheAM.mp3=
" target=3D"_blank">http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBackInTheAM=
.mp3</a><br>
<br>
</div>Nice sound, Warren! I could not understand from your technical rig<br=
>
description which one of the applications that is providing the master<br>
sync?<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a hre=
f=3D"http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679">http://www.ubetoo.c=
om/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.co=
m">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>


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Another thing about my setup - i attached a Trigger Finger, mainly because
it has 4 sliders and 8 knobs, to control everything. Sliders control vol on
guitar synth and drum synth channels independently in MS, as well as the
Selected Loop Volume in SL. Footcontroller controls overall output to the
loop (mix of gtr and gtr synth - in other words, my live sound).

Since I have all this synced delay available (not used too much in this
particular piece, but I do love it), I also put the echo sends on knobs, as
well as delay feedback and Selected Loop Feedback. So far, this has been the
most useful knob assignment I could find. I find it especially fun to put
some of the synced delay on the guitar synth parts, thus "integrating" this
instrument into the loop-synced rhythm (I didn't do that on this piece, tho,
because that wouldn't make much sense for a bass part).

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Another thing about my setup - i attached a Trigger Finger, mainly because =
it has 4 sliders and 8 knobs, to control everything. Sliders control vol on=
 guitar synth and drum synth channels independently in MS, as well as the S=
elected Loop Volume in SL. Footcontroller controls overall output to the lo=
op (mix of gtr and gtr synth - in other words, my live sound). <br>
<br>Since I have all this synced delay available (not used too much in this=
 particular piece, but I do love it), I also put the echo sends on knobs, a=
s well as delay feedback and Selected Loop Feedback. So far, this has been =
the most useful knob assignment I could find. I find it especially fun to p=
ut some of the synced delay on the guitar synth parts, thus &quot;integrati=
ng&quot; this instrument into the loop-synced rhythm (I didn&#39;t do that =
on this piece, tho, because that wouldn&#39;t make much sense for a bass pa=
rt).<br>

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Hello Mike,
I think it would be better to use the RC50 as midi master (if possible), as it seems to have difficulties in following sync as a midi slave.

Although I haven't tried to do such thing yet, I use it as midi master for my TC M300 - in order to sync the delay of the M300 with the the tempo button of my RC50. This works well.

Dirk



Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca> schrieb:

> 
> I’m planning on using the boss rc-50 and midi sync it as slave to a boss
> dr-657 drum manchine. Anyone had an opportunity to use these together and
> how successful have you been if so?
> 
> Thanks for any input on this.
> Mike
> 

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Sounds good Warren!
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Hi,

I wondered if people could recommend me a MIDI footcontroller.

I'm more interested in expression pedals than switches. Something like
an FCB1010 but with maybe just 2 switches, and ideally USB
connectivity.

Does such a thing exist?


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test

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well, that sounds like the gordius little giant (LG) would fit your
requirements.
also the module (LGM) if you have the expressions and switches, is
more portable and cheaper.

ask xavier here:

www.gordius.be


2009/4/19, Os <os@collective.co.uk>:
> Hi,
>
> I wondered if people could recommend me a MIDI footcontroller.
>
> I'm more interested in expression pedals than switches. Something like
> an FCB1010 but with maybe just 2 switches, and ideally USB
> connectivity.
>
> Does such a thing exist?
>
>
> cheers,
> os.
>
> --
> os@collective.co.uk
> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/
>
>


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nice test, jeff!

2009/4/19, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>:
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>


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Moog MP-201?

I have one, like it a lot. 

-George
http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic 



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Hi,

I wondered if people could recommend me a MIDI footcontroller.

I'm more interested in expression pedals than switches. Something like
an FCB1010 but with maybe just 2 switches, and ideally USB
connectivity.

Does such a thing exist?


cheers,
os.

-- 
os@collective.co.uk
http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/


      

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hey - I just happened to have a look around here, so no need to walk
over to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.gordius.be">www.gordius.be</a> ;-) <br>
Indeed, Os, if your requirements are 2 expression pedals + 2 switches +
USB connectivity (and a big display maybe), then the LG-M should do the
trick. I do all testing here with a cheap M-Audio black box pedal
connected to the module - it has 2 switches plus one expression pedal,
so you could add a second pedal next to that. The LG-M has some
features which let you get maximum functionality out of just 2
switches. If you would feel like discussing this in more detail you can
always contact me off list.<br>
(o yes, that other suggestion - the Moog MP-201 - sure is a very cool
and good looking product!)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Xavier<br>
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  <pre wrap="">well, that sounds like the gordius little giant (LG) would fit your
requirements.
also the module (LGM) if you have the expressions and switches, is
more portable and cheaper.

ask xavier here:

<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.gordius.be">www.gordius.be</a>


2009/4/19, Os <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:os@collective.co.uk">&lt;os@collective.co.uk&gt;</a>:
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    <pre wrap="">Hi,

I wondered if people could recommend me a MIDI footcontroller.

I'm more interested in expression pedals than switches. Something like
an FCB1010 but with maybe just 2 switches, and ideally USB
connectivity.

Does such a thing exist?


cheers,
os.

--
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.darkroomtheband.net/">http://www.darkroomtheband.net/</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/">http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/</a>


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why thank you Raul! for my next number....


j

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> nice test, jeff!
> 
> 2009/4/19, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>:
>> test
>>
>>
> 
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Per,

With the thicker
> strings it seems the stings need to be just a little bit longer. Five
> strings are good now, but for the G string (or D as this instrument is
> tuned) the mounting of the stratocaster style bridge/tailpiece/whammy
> does not allow the sting length needed for correct intonation.
>

Try installing an Earvana style nut instead. That should help with getting
the g-string intonation right. An Earvana nut generally smooths
out  (shortens) the bridge intonation lengths a bit a give much sweeter
chords all up the neck. Worth doing on any guitar IMO.

Ian

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 id=3D":1pf" class=3D"ii gt">With the thicker<br>
strings it seems the stings need to be just a little bit longer. Five<br>
strings are good now, but for the G string (or D as this instrument is<br>
tuned) the mounting of the stratocaster style bridge/tailpiece/whammy<br>
does not allow the sting length needed for correct intonation.</div></block=
quote></div><br><div>Try installing an Earvana style nut instead. That shou=
ld help with getting the g-string intonation right. An Earvana nut generall=
y smooths out=A0=A0(shortens)=A0the bridge intonation lengths a bit a give =
much sweeter chords all up the neck. Worth doing on any guitar IMO.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Ian</div>

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Hi,
I've uploaded 4 live improv rehearsal session I did yesterday. They are =
also
available for download at last.fm and the iTunes podcast. Btw: totally
different than the fairy tale stuff of earlier this week ;)

http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/12_Black_pearl_pt.1.mp3
http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/13_Black_pearl_pt.2.mp3
http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/14_Black_pearl_pt.3.mp3
http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/15_Black_pearl_pt.4.mp3

Enjoy your Sunday ;)

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Ian Petersen <iep@mail.dk> wrote:
> Per,
>
>> With the thicker
>> strings it seems the stings need to be just a little bit longer. Five
>> strings are good now, but for the G string (or D as this instrument is
>> tuned) the mounting of the stratocaster style bridge/tailpiece/whammy
>> does not allow the sting length needed for correct intonation.
>
> Try installing an Earvana style nut instead. That should help with gettin=
g
> the g-string intonation right. An Earvana nut generally smooths
> out=C2=A0=C2=A0(shortens)=C2=A0the bridge intonation lengths a bit a give=
 much sweeter
> chords all up the neck. Worth doing on any guitar IMO.
> Ian

Great tip, Ian. Thanks! Of course it doesn't matter by witch end you
increase the string length, but that just didn't hit my mind... I'll
talk to some of my guitar builder friends here in Sweden about how to
pick one up. They are not in the stores around here.

Per

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Hey all - doing a ustream webcast today at www.mattstevensguitar.com  
at 5 - all the international times are there if you are up for  
watching it would be great.

Ustream is great for live looping.

Matt Stevens
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very nice warren! id love to see this done live!!
cheers

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--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:

> From: Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>
> Subject: My first looping piece with drum patterns
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 6:21 PM
> So, all the pieces of my system are
> working together, tho I'm still trying to work out some
> of the operational details for live performance -
> there's a lot going on.
> 
> http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBackInTheAM.mp3
> 
> 
> I seem to have a one-man-band obsession. This is a piece
> with:
> Guitar: Godin Freeway SA, GR-33
> Mainstage: processing guitar sounds, mixing in synth
> sounds from the GR-33, generating drum sounds when triggered
> by:
> 
> Ableton Live: used just as a host to a bunch of MIDI
> clips at the moment. I have sets of related clips arranged
> in a track (only one track active at a time), using launch
> actions to let live switch among them. The MIDI clips in
> this piece were taken from the Ultrabeat library, via
> copying Ultrabeat->Logic and then exporting to midi files
> and dragging into Live. Quite a bit of preparation, but it
> should be very reusable in various ways. To give additional
> variation above and beyond the midi clips cycling, I put the
> output of the clips through a velocity randomizer in Live
> before sending to Mainstage. This is actually surprisingly
> effective (to me) and actually interesting to control in
> real-time, tho I haven't done that on this piece.
> 
> SooperLooper, running as standalone, 4 loops
> available
> Max: used to record 3 stereo tracks (live guitar,
> loop output, drums), and also to provide a little glue -
> he's the one who listens for the Start cmds issued by
> SooperLooper and tells Live to activate clip 1, for
> instance.
> 
> 
> and, for plumbing, there's the Jack audio server to get
> the audio where it needs to go, and MIDI Patchbay to help
> out with the midi.
> 
> I hope it's worth all the effort! Feels so to me, this
> is just the start.
> 
> 


      

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Hi gang,

Since there are many guitar and audio wiring wizards on this list I'd
like to ask for ideas on kill switch playing. Back in the days it was
a trick that you did with a Les Paul by turning down the neck pickup's
volume knob, hit a chord and work the toggle switch to stutter it. In
recent years Tom Morello has popularized the effect and developed it
into DJ style "scratching" almost made his trademark sound. Now, I'm
thinking about this in terms of musical playability and the best
solution I can imagine would be a touch pad, or button, big enough for
you to "drum on" with the finger tips of your right hand (while
providing "source noise" with your left hand on the fretboard). I have
not seen anyone using such a guitar solutions but since the idea is so
great I bet there are lots of people out there playing with it? Maybe
even on this list?

Scott Middelton of Cancer Bats has a kill switch in his custom built
guitar, seen as picture 3 here: http://is.gd/thSM. But that solution
is sort of functionality-wise upside down as I see it. It kills the
audio when pressed - I would rather have a kill switch that lets
through audio when pressed. That's the only way to go if you want to
drum it by finger tips. And this rises an issue: Since the default
position would be to block audio you would also need a second button
for enabling the kill switch. Any design ideas for this?

The only thing I can come up with is a toggle press button to
enable/disable the touch pad. The moment you enable it, the audio is
silenced and you can now open up the signal flow by tapping the touch
pad. In active mode this button works the other way, it disables the
touch pad and puts the audio flow back into normal. You would of
course have to hit the enable button with a musical timing.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
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cmon guys, you should definitely go OT an all guitar related topics, please.
thanx - tilmann

Ian Petersen schrieb:
> Per,
> 
>     With the thicker
>     strings it seems the stings need to be just a little bit longer. Five
>     strings are good now, but for the G string (or D as this instrument is
>     tuned) the mounting of the stratocaster style bridge/tailpiece/whammy
>     does not allow the sting length needed for correct intonation.
> 
> 
> Try installing an Earvana style nut instead. That should help with 
> getting the g-string intonation right. An Earvana nut generally smooths 
> out  (shortens) the bridge intonation lengths a bit a give much sweeter 
> chords all up the neck. Worth doing on any guitar IMO.
> 
> Ian

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Subject: Re: Kill switch for el guitar - design ideas?
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I have yet to try my hand at one, but here are some vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFD4MQsc39Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dloQs1RsfRE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42jrrrYmfqk&feature=related
Buckethead playing with his: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oElZrMhvsk8


Jeff

http://jeffduke.org 




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> Hi gang,
> 
> Since there are many guitar and audio wiring wizards on this list I'd
> like to ask for ideas on kill switch playing. Back in the days it was
> a trick that you did with a Les Paul by turning down the neck pickup's
> volume knob, hit a chord and work the toggle switch to stutter it. In
> recent years Tom Morello has popularized the effect and developed it
> into DJ style "scratching" almost made his trademark sound. Now, I'm
> thinking about this in terms of musical playability and the best
> solution I can imagine would be a touch pad, or button, big enough for
> you to "drum on" with the finger tips of your right hand (while
> providing "source noise" with your left hand on the fretboard). I have
> not seen anyone using such a guitar solutions but since the idea is so
> great I bet there are lots of people out there playing with it? Maybe
> even on this list?
> 
> Scott Middelton of Cancer Bats has a kill switch in his custom built
> guitar, seen as picture 3 here: http://is.gd/thSM. But that solution
> is sort of functionality-wise upside down as I see it. It kills the
> audio when pressed - I would rather have a kill switch that lets
> through audio when pressed. That's the only way to go if you want to
> drum it by finger tips. And this rises an issue: Since the default
> position would be to block audio you would also need a second button
> for enabling the kill switch. Any design ideas for this?
> 
> The only thing I can come up with is a toggle press button to
> enable/disable the touch pad. The moment you enable it, the audio is
> silenced and you can now open up the signal flow by tapping the touch
> pad. In active mode this button works the other way, it disables the
> touch pad and puts the audio flow back into normal. You would of
> course have to hit the enable button with a musical timing.
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> 
>

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If there are any Looper's in Tokyo, i'll be out there gigging on the 
following dates;

1 May 2009   20:00
Encore  Tokyo

2 May 2009  20:00
Ottorisha  Tokyo

3 May 2009  20:00
Ruby Room  Tokyo

5 May 2009  20:00
Pink Cow  Tokyo

6 May 2009  20:00
Daisy bar  Tokyo

7 May 2009  20:00
Seco Lounge (EP Launch) Tokyo

8 May 2009  20:00
Kaetsu University   Tokyo

9 May 2009  20:00
Cosmos Cafe Tokyo

More info: ross@kr-international.com

Please come along! :)

Ricky 

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My old DL4 just died - every time i hit loop once it goes to half  
speed? Any ideas.

I'm playing live on ustream at 5(40 minutes!!!)!!!!

Using my backup dl4 for today but the action isn't quite as good (not  
had years of use)

Watch the gig at:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/matt-stevens-from-the-box-room

Matt Stevens
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> Scott Middelton of Cancer Bats has a kill switch in his custom built
> guitar, seen as picture 3 here: http://is.gd/thSM. But that solution
> is sort of functionality-wise upside down as I see it. It kills the
> audio when pressed -

Undoubtedly he uses a normally open switch.  All you need to do is used a 
normally closed switch in the same circuit that he uses. 

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>> Scott Middelton of Cancer Bats has a kill switch in his custom built
>> guitar, seen as picture 3 here: http://is.gd/thSM. But that solution
>> is sort of functionality-wise upside down as I see it. It kills the
>> audio when pressed -

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:

> Undoubtedly he uses a normally open switch. =C2=A0All you need to do is u=
sed a
> normally closed switch in the same circuit that he uses.

Ahh... so there are special "normally closed" switches! That I didn't
know. But I would still need to add four more switches (since only one
finger tip fits on that switch) and add a special "enable/disable
switch circuit" switch (since its default mode is to shut off audio).

I'm looking for a controller that meets these three criteria:
1) big enough for finger drumming with five finger tips.
2) defalut mode of switch has to be to silence the signal.
3) the shall let through audio for exactly the time being touched.

Per

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Per,

They are not in the stores around here


GMF have them: http://www.gmf.se

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<div class="gmail_quote">Per,</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">They are not in the stores around here</blockquote><div>
<br></div><div>GMF have them: <a href="http://www.gmf.se">http://www.gmf.se</a></div><div><br></div><div>Ian</div></div><br>

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Per,

Since there are many guitar and audio wiring wizards on this list I'd
> like to ask for ideas on kill switch playing.
>

How about installing a metal (preferably copper) scratchplate on the guitar?
Then with a suitable multiway 'superswitch' (I'm assuming a strat style
guitar) it would be relatively trivial to wire it so the circuit, to one or
more pickups, is completed *only* when your fingers are touching both
strings and scratchplate.

I believe David Torn has his Koll guitar wired in a similar fashion.

Ian

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Per,<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div=
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zards on this list I&#39;d<br>

like to ask for ideas on kill switch playing.</div></blockquote></div><br><=
div>How about installing a metal (preferably copper) scratchplate on the gu=
itar? Then with a suitable multiway &#39;superswitch&#39; (I&#39;m assuming=
 a strat style guitar) it would be relatively trivial to wire it so the cir=
cuit, to one or more pickups, is completed *only* when your fingers are tou=
ching both strings and scratchplate.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I believe David Torn has his Koll guitar wired in a sim=
ilar fashion.</div><div><br></div><div>Ian</div>

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http://hallco.thomasnet.com/category/big-switch?

j


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>> Scott Middelton of Cancer Bats has a kill switch in his custom built
>> guitar, seen as picture 3 here: http://is.gd/thSM. But that solution
>> is sort of functionality-wise upside down as I see it. It kills the
>> audio when pressed -

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:

> Undoubtedly he uses a normally open switch. All you need to do is used a
> normally closed switch in the same circuit that he uses.

Ahh... so there are special "normally closed" switches! That I didn't
know. But I would still need to add four more switches (since only one
finger tip fits on that switch) and add a special "enable/disable
switch circuit" switch (since its default mode is to shut off audio).

I'm looking for a controller that meets these three criteria:
1) big enough for finger drumming with five finger tips.
2) defalut mode of switch has to be to silence the signal.
3) the shall let through audio for exactly the time being touched.

Per


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Awesome idea, Ian! BTW Torn is gigging in Sweden today. Far away from
my local area though... ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Ian Petersen <iep@mail.dk> wrote:
> Per,
>
>> Since there are many guitar and audio wiring wizards on this list I'd
>> like to ask for ideas on kill switch playing.
>
> How about installing a metal (preferably copper) scratchplate on the guitar?
> Then with a suitable multiway 'superswitch' (I'm assuming a strat style
> guitar) it would be relatively trivial to wire it so the circuit, to one or
> more pickups, is completed *only* when your fingers are touching both
> strings and scratchplate.
> I believe David Torn has his Koll guitar wired in a similar fashion.
> Ian

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There are alot of ways to do this better... and a few extra options...
One thing I have seen the guitarist fomr Melt Banana do is have a kill
switch, where instead of switching to silence, he switched to a
minidisc... on which he had all kinds of noise. Wanna regular
killswitch? turn off the minidisk /iPod or whatever... whatabout a
killswitch loop, so you run the "off" position thru a cheap old pitch
shift pedal or octave pedal...

Thats options.. but the other issue is the curcuit.. first the best
method would have to be a touch pad. Now if you used a simple IC as
the audio switch, you would eliminate the likelyhood of a click as you
switch, plus the actual switching method could just be you grounding
the circuit... i think... Im sure I could figure out a possible
circuit, Plus it could be switchable as far as touch on cut or touch
off cut. Most guitarists seem to have gotten used to this push off for
cut, but as Per says, that seems weird. The classic old Les Paul
(pickup volume down) method, worked fine, cos its was a toggle switch,
but a button... well Id have to try it...

Mark

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> http://hallco.thomasnet.com/category/big-switch?
>
> j
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Kill switch for el guitar - design ideas?
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>
>>> Scott Middelton of Cancer Bats has a kill switch in his custom built
>>> guitar, seen as picture 3 here: http://is.gd/thSM. But that solution
>>> is sort of functionality-wise upside down as I see it. It kills the
>>> audio when pressed -
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:
>
>> Undoubtedly he uses a normally open switch. All you need to do is used a
>> normally closed switch in the same circuit that he uses.
>
> Ahh... so there are special "normally closed" switches! That I didn't
> know. But I would still need to add four more switches (since only one
> finger tip fits on that switch) and add a special "enable/disable
> switch circuit" switch (since its default mode is to shut off audio).
>
> I'm looking for a controller that meets these three criteria:
> 1) big enough for finger drumming with five finger tips.
> 2) defalut mode of switch has to be to silence the signal.
> 3) the shall let through audio for exactly the time being touched.
>
> Per
>
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PS: Id never seen / heard of Buckethead..
Thank-you..
Truly awful!!!
Never seen / heard anything worse in all my born days...
I will not sleep for weeks!



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> Now if you used a simple IC as
> the audio switch, you would eliminate the likelyhood of a click as you
> switch, plus the actual switching method could just be you grounding
> the circuit... i think... Im sure I could figure out a possible
> circuit,

If you go this route, look into digitally controlled potentiometers.  Maxim 
makes some.  Many of them have zero-crossing detectors to eliminate clicks. 

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Douglas Baldwin wrote:
> If a string could be reduced to a Platonic ideal, it might have zero 
> mass, and the 12th fret would be exactly beneath the half-way point 
> between the nut and the bridge. 

With apologies for being pedantic.

"The speed of propagation of a wave in a string (v) is proportional to 
the square root of the tension of the string (T) and inversely proportional 
to the square root of the linear mass (Î¼) of the string."
(where "linear mass" just means the mass per unit length of the string).


So the ideal string has to have mass, otherwise it's frequency will be infinite.

Actually, the theory for vibration of a string, which is where our ideal 
string comes from, assumes the string is infinitely thin, and hence infinitely
flexible.

It's actually the stiffness of the string which causes it to differ from
our ideal of "12th fret at mid way".

Of course, what Douglas says about the extra tension from fretting the string 
is 100% spot on, and probably more relevant.
( lower action for better intonation )

>    The wack part of this observation is what happens when you deal with 
> wound strings, because the windings add to the pitch-lowering mass of 
> the string WITHOUT adding to (or subtracting from) the tension necessary 
> to reach their desired pitch. 

With respect, that's not the case at all. Wound strings behave the same as
unwound in terms of thickness versus tension.
However, round strings are a bit more flexible than the equivalent plain string, 
(think thick piano wire) which explains the famous pattern at the bridge.


:-) ...and shouldn't it be a Pythagorean ideal?


andy butler
ps Per, how about filling some metal off the existing saddle?




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Not a bad idea.  Either end.

toby
> andy butler
> ps Per, how about filling some metal off the existing saddle?
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>> Try installing an Earvana style nut instead. That should help with getting
>> the g-string intonation right. An Earvana nut generally smooths
>> out  (shortens) the bridge intonation lengths a bit a give much sweeter
>> chords all up the neck. Worth doing on any guitar IMO.
>> Ian
> 

I'm rather skeptical of that as a fix.
I reckon it's a hack that only works
if you aren't aiming for equal temperament tuning.

i.e. it works if you stick to the usual guitarist chords,
but otherwise makes the guitar untunable.

All it's doing is making all the fretted notes on the G
string a bit sharper.

andy butler
 

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:35 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> ps Per, how about filling some metal off the existing saddle?

That's a good idea, but I think I'll start by putting another,
smaller, string block into the bridge for that extra millimeter. But
the off-tuning is very, very subtle so I can actually use the guitar
already as it is. But I like perfection in micro tuning so I will
definitely make the Plan A come through sooner or later. As being an
experimenting instrument abuser I have loads of spare parts all around
the place  ;-)

Per

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A momentary single-pole dual throw switch will do the job.  Using an IC will 
create more problems with noise, plus you need a battery for the chip.

toby
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> There are alot of ways to do this better... and a few extra options...
> One thing I have seen the guitarist fomr Melt Banana do is have a kill
> switch, where instead of switching to silence, he switched to a
> minidisc... on which he had all kinds of noise. Wanna regular
> killswitch? turn off the minidisk /iPod or whatever... whatabout a
> killswitch loop, so you run the "off" position thru a cheap old pitch
> shift pedal or octave pedal...
>
> Thats options.. but the other issue is the curcuit.. first the best
> method would have to be a touch pad. Now if you used a simple IC as
> the audio switch, you would eliminate the likelyhood of a click as you
> switch, plus the actual switching method could just be you grounding
> the circuit... i think... Im sure I could figure out a possible
> circuit, Plus it could be switchable as far as touch on cut or touch
> off cut. Most guitarists seem to have gotten used to this push off for
> cut, but as Per says, that seems weird. The classic old Les Paul
> (pickup volume down) method, worked fine, cos its was a toggle switch,
> but a button... well Id have to try it...
>
> Mark
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> http://hallco.thomasnet.com/category/big-switch?
>>
>> j
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: Kill switch for el guitar - design ideas?
>>
>>
>>>> Scott Middelton of Cancer Bats has a kill switch in his custom built
>>>> guitar, seen as picture 3 here: http://is.gd/thSM. But that solution
>>>> is sort of functionality-wise upside down as I see it. It kills the
>>>> audio when pressed -
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Undoubtedly he uses a normally open switch. All you need to do is used a
>>> normally closed switch in the same circuit that he uses.
>>
>> Ahh... so there are special "normally closed" switches! That I didn't
>> know. But I would still need to add four more switches (since only one
>> finger tip fits on that switch) and add a special "enable/disable
>> switch circuit" switch (since its default mode is to shut off audio).
>>
>> I'm looking for a controller that meets these three criteria:
>> 1) big enough for finger drumming with five finger tips.
>> 2) defalut mode of switch has to be to silence the signal.
>> 3) the shall let through audio for exactly the time being touched.
>>
>> Per
>>
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RE: Buckethead Video
I quite enjoyed parts of it. I'm a fan of some of his material. It's nice to 
see someone do something different. It kind of reminded me of turntablism in 
some instances.

RE: Killswitch

I have a 'kill switch' on my guitar, just for convenience sake when I'm 
playing live to kill all the awful noise i'm making. It has taken some abuse 
over the years. It's a good device to glitch guitar lines with. I guess you 
could map anything to control a mix parameter to feed your guitar signal in 
and out as you please with Max/MSP and an Arduino board. Just a thought.

Ricky

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> PS: Id never seen / heard of Buckethead..
> Thank-you..
> Truly awful!!!
> Never seen / heard anything worse in all my born days...
> I will not sleep for weeks!
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Big thanks to everyone that posted interesting ideas. I think I have
found out how to fix this the way I would like to have it when
performing - with three physical buttons. I will simple hi-jack the
signal between the guitar's volume knob and its final destination the
output jack. At this spot I will insert:

1) First a hold-down redirecting button. Its default when not pressed
is to route the signal to tag A. When held down the signal is routed
to tag B. When let go the signal is again routed to the default tag A.
2) In the "tag B loop" I will daisy-chain two "push-to-make" switches.

The performance technique will be to hold down the first button with
the thumb. While holding down this button the signal is redirected
into the loop with the two other buttons.  Any of the two other
buttons will now un-mute it while pressed down.

The reason for having two un-muting buttons is to make it possible to
drum rhythms with two finger tips. I test drummed a little here on the
table and found that it is good enough to use two fingers, even for
triplets.

Since this is a MIDI Guitar it already have both a three way switch
for guitar/guitar+MIDI/MIDI and a three octave switch for MIDI only.
But I don't think these switches will last very long if used for
hammering out rhythm patterns ;-))

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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per-
i am not a wiring wizard by any means
but love the sounds that buckethead & t. morello do....
=A0
& yes, i was thinking along the lines of DT's modded koll guitar, and also =
the teuffel tesla has the same thing-i'm not sure what type of switch the t=
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think the 3rd switch disconnects the ground to give the 60 cycle hum (which=
 i have on one of my guitars)
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on my last 2 guitars i have been wiring the guitar pu's w/ on-off switches,=
 i like them better than 3-way or 5-way toggles for pu selecting (i usually=
 just have 2 pus and a mic for feedback inbetween-i'm not a big fan of the =
middle strat pu sound) & i find that wiring scheme easy for me (again i'm n=
o wizard). i just use standard toggles that you can get at radio shack (ele=
ctronics store in US). radioshack also sells a momentary red button that's =
an on-off switch-i think buckethead uses something like this on his Les Pau=
l-the problem-it was the 1st switch i tried, and it didn't work on my guita=
r, i may have had a bad switch i don't know, but i'm not a big fan of that =
type, i prefer just using a toggle (which is what t morello uses), but buck=
ethead's does allow for more "drumming-style tapping on & off sounds". i've=
 seen the switch selling on ebay for like 10$, under "buckethead like toggl=
e"-which is a joke, b/c it's like 2$ switch from radio shack.
=A0
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<DIV>i am not a wiring wizard by any means</DIV>
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<DIV>&amp; yes, i was thinking along the lines of DT's modded koll guitar, =
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k, and i think the 3rd switch disconnects the ground to give the 60 cycle h=
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ches, i like them better than 3-way or 5-way toggles for pu selecting (i us=
ually just have 2 pus and a mic for feedback inbetween-i'm not a big fan of=
 the middle strat pu sound) &amp; i find that wiring scheme easy for me (ag=
ain i'm no wizard). i just use standard toggles that you can get at radio s=
hack (electronics store in US). radioshack also sells a momentary red butto=
n that's an on-off switch-i think buckethead uses something like this on hi=
s Les Paul-the problem-it was the 1st switch i tried, and it didn't work on=
 my guitar, i may have had a bad switch i don't know, but i'm not a big fan=
 of that type, i prefer just using a toggle (which is what t morello uses),=
 but buckethead's does allow for more "drumming-style tapping on &amp; off =
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Howdy,

 If you want a "kill"  sitch, just wire it up between hotand ground of the =
ouput. A toggle will allow you  to kill and leave it that way. anormally cl=
osed pushbutton will allow stuttering type affects, and, ultimately, a sing=
le pole double throw center off will allow both if  you get one labeled  on=
-off-(on). These are available from  Mouser electronics for about $.50. I h=
ave a box full of the miniature ones. You may also want to consider DPDT sw=
itches for your pickups,(at least one), for phase reversalof pickups. ore t=
one possibilities.
Rig


--- On Sun, 4/19/09, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>
> Subject: killswitch 4 gtr...
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 6:24 PM
> per-
> i am not a wiring wizard by any means
> but love the sounds that buckethead & t. morello
> do....
> =A0
> & yes, i was thinking along the lines of DT's
> modded koll guitar, and also the teuffel tesla has the same
> thing-i'm not sure what type of switch the tesla uses
> (it looks DELUXE!), i've seen it briefly in action on
> the henry kaiser dvd from '04 -i think he is using the
> microphone for feedback, and i think the 3rd switch
> disconnects the ground to give the 60 cycle hum (which i
> have on one of my guitars)
> =A0
> on my last 2 guitars i have been wiring the guitar
> pu's w/ on-off switches, i like them better than 3-way
> or 5-way toggles for pu selecting (i usually just have 2 pus
> and a mic for feedback inbetween-i'm not a big fan of
> the middle strat pu sound) & i find that wiring scheme
> easy for me (again i'm no wizard). i just use standard
> toggles that you can get at radio shack (electronics store
> in US). radioshack also sells a momentary red button
> that's an on-off switch-i think buckethead uses
> something like this on his Les Paul-the problem-it was the
> 1st switch i tried, and it didn't work on my guitar, i
> may have had a bad switch i don't know, but i'm not
> a big fan of that type, i prefer just using a toggle (which
> is what t morello uses), but buckethead's does allow for
> more "drumming-style tapping on & off sounds".
> i've seen the switch selling on ebay for like 10$, under
> "buckethead like toggle"-which is a joke, b/c
> it's like 2$ switch from radio
>  shack.
> =A0
> ALSO-check out the seymour duncan website-he has a
> wiring scheme as to how to put a killswitch in a guitar,
> basically you just mod the hot line from volume that goes to
> the output jack i believe, he has it laid out pretty nicely
> & can probably use whatever switch you feel comfortable
> w/...
> GOOD LUCK! it is a fun mod to have & play w/
> although i think b-head and t-morello do it way better than
> i've been able to come up w/
> s---
>=20
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my 2 cents-=A0 I bought=A0 a Planet Waves guitar cable with a mute switch b=
uilt in to the guitar input jack.=A0 Works like a charm.=A0 You can plug an=
d unplug different guitars all with the one cable and not have to pull the =
jack at the amp end=A0to avoid damaging pops.=A0 Haven't read the whole thr=
ead so I am not sure if that is what you all wanted the kill switch for but=
 like I said my 2 cents worth.=A0=20



--- On Sun, 4/19/09, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>
Subject: killswitch 4 gtr...
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 9:24 PM







per-
i am not a wiring wizard by any means
but love the sounds that buckethead & t. morello do....
=A0
& yes, i was thinking along the lines of DT's modded koll guitar, and also =
the teuffel tesla has the same thing-i'm not sure what type of switch the t=
esla uses (it looks DELUXE!), i've seen it briefly in action on the henry k=
aiser dvd from '04 -i think he is using the microphone for feedback, and i =
think the 3rd switch disconnects the ground to give the 60 cycle hum (which=
 i have on one of my guitars)
=A0
on my last 2 guitars i have been wiring the guitar pu's w/ on-off switches,=
 i like them better than 3-way or 5-way toggles for pu selecting (i usually=
 just have 2 pus and a mic for feedback inbetween-i'm not a big fan of the =
middle strat pu sound) & i find that wiring scheme easy for me (again i'm n=
o wizard). i just use standard toggles that you can get at radio shack (ele=
ctronics store in US). radioshack also sells a momentary red button that's =
an on-off switch-i think buckethead uses something like this on his Les Pau=
l-the problem-it was the 1st switch i tried, and it didn't work on my guita=
r, i may have had a bad switch i don't know, but i'm not a big fan of that =
type, i prefer just using a toggle (which is what t morello uses), but buck=
ethead's does allow for more "drumming-style tapping on & off sounds". i've=
 seen the switch selling on ebay for like 10$, under "buckethead like toggl=
e"-which is a joke, b/c it's like 2$ switch from radio shack.
=A0
ALSO-check out the seymour duncan website-he has a wiring scheme as to how =
to put a killswitch in a guitar, basically you just mod the hot line from v=
olume that goes to the output jack i believe, he has it laid out pretty nic=
ely & can probably use whatever switch you feel comfortable w/...
GOOD LUCK! it is a fun mod to have & play w/ although i think b-head and t-=
morello do it way better than i've been able to come up w/
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">my 2 cents-&nbsp; I bought&nbsp; a Planet Wav=
es guitar cable with a mute switch built in to the guitar input jack.&nbsp;=
 Works like a charm.&nbsp; You can plug and unplug different guitars all wi=
th the one cable and not have to pull the jack at the amp end&nbsp;to avoid=
 damaging pops.&nbsp; Haven't read the whole thread so I am not sure if tha=
t is what you all wanted the kill switch for but like I said my 2 cents wor=
th.&nbsp; <BR>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 4/19/09, scott hansen <I>&lt;evanpeewee@yahoo.c=
om&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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bject: killswitch 4 gtr...<BR>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR>Da=
te: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 9:24 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>per-</DIV>
<DIV>i am not a wiring wizard by any means</DIV>
<DIV>but love the sounds that buckethead &amp; t. morello do....</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&amp; yes, i was thinking along the lines of DT's modded koll guitar, =
and also the teuffel tesla has the same thing-i'm not sure what type of swi=
tch the tesla uses (it looks DELUXE!), i've seen it briefly in action on th=
e henry kaiser dvd from '04 -i think he is using the microphone for feedbac=
k, and i think the 3rd switch disconnects the ground to give the 60 cycle h=
um (which i have on one of my guitars)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>on my last 2 guitars i have been wiring the guitar pu's w/ on-off swit=
ches, i like them better than 3-way or 5-way toggles for pu selecting (i us=
ually just have 2 pus and a mic for feedback inbetween-i'm not a big fan of=
 the middle strat pu sound) &amp; i find that wiring scheme easy for me (ag=
ain i'm no wizard). i just use standard toggles that you can get at radio s=
hack (electronics store in US). radioshack also sells a momentary red butto=
n that's an on-off switch-i think buckethead uses something like this on hi=
s Les Paul-the problem-it was the 1st switch i tried, and it didn't work on=
 my guitar, i may have had a bad switch i don't know, but i'm not a big fan=
 of that type, i prefer just using a toggle (which is what t morello uses),=
 but buckethead's does allow for more "drumming-style tapping on &amp; off =
sounds". i've seen the switch selling on ebay for like 10$, under "buckethe=
ad like toggle"-which is a joke, b/c it's like 2$ switch from radio
 shack.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>ALSO-check out the seymour duncan website-he has a wiring scheme as to=
 how to put a killswitch in a guitar, basically you just mod the hot line f=
rom volume that goes to the output jack i believe, he has it laid out prett=
y nicely &amp; can probably use whatever switch you feel comfortable w/...<=
/DIV>
<DIV>GOOD LUCK! it is a fun mod to have &amp; play w/ although i think b-he=
ad and t-morello do it way better than i've been able to come up w/</DIV>
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There's a whole school of thought and reason behind installing a 
compensated nut. There is debate as to how much it helps, but it's 
certainly popular and some peeps swear by it. Have been considering 
getting the Buzz Feiten or similar system on my nylon-string to help 
intonation.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com


>>> Try installing an Earvana style nut instead. That should help with 
>>> getting
>>> the g-string intonation right. An Earvana nut generally smooths
>>> out  (shortens) the bridge intonation lengths a bit a give much sweeter
>>> chords all up the neck. Worth doing on any guitar IMO.
>>> Ian
>>
>
> I'm rather skeptical of that as a fix.
> I reckon it's a hack that only works
> if you aren't aiming for equal temperament tuning.
>
> i.e. it works if you stick to the usual guitarist chords,
> but otherwise makes the guitar untunable.
>
> All it's doing is making all the fretted notes on the G
> string a bit sharper.

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Andy,

I'm rather skeptical of that as a fix. I reckon it's a hack that only works
> if you aren't aiming for equal temperament tuning.
>
> i.e. it works if you stick to the usual guitarist chords,
> but otherwise makes the guitar untunable.
>

All guitar tunings/intonation methods are 'a bit of a hack' as long as
you're using fixed, regularly spaced frets. The Earvana style nut just
distributes the hack at each end of the string instead of just one end.

All it's doing is making all the fretted notes on the G
> string a bit sharper
>

All the strings get a bit of compensation.

I know the Earvana nut is all wrong *in theory*. But in practice - on real
guitars - it works just fine!
Just moving a standard nut a millimetre or so closer to the first fret
achieves much the same effect. Many high-end (esp. acoustic) guitar makers
use that trick.

Ian

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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Andy,</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><b=
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#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div id=3D":1c7" class=3D"ii gt">I&#39;m rath=
er skeptical of that as a fix.=A0I reckon it&#39;s a hack that only works<b=
r>

if you aren&#39;t aiming for equal temperament tuning.<br>
<br>
i.e. it works if you stick to the usual guitarist chords,<br>
but otherwise makes the guitar untunable.</div></blockquote><div><br></div>=
<div>All guitar tunings/intonation methods are &#39;a bit of a hack&#39; as=
 long as you&#39;re using fixed, regularly spaced frets. The Earvana style =
nut just distributes the hack at each end of the string instead of just one=
 end.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div id=3D":1c7" class=3D"ii=
 gt">All it&#39;s doing is making all the fretted notes on the G<br>
string a bit sharper</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>All the strings =
get a bit of compensation.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I know the Earvana n=
ut is all wrong *in theory*. But in practice - on real guitars - it works j=
ust fine!=A0</div>
<div>Just moving a standard nut a millimetre or so closer to the first fret=
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Yes, right. I never had problems running the RC 50 as master for my Groove
Box. Never used it as slave, I guess. But I will check out and let you know
soon.
Best,
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>
> Hello Mike,
> I think it would be better to use the RC50 as midi master (if possible),
as it seems to have difficulties in following sync as a midi slave.
>
> Although I haven't tried to do such thing yet, I use it as midi master for
my TC M300 - in order to sync the delay of the M300 with the the tempo
button of my RC50. This works well.
>
> Dirk
>
>
>
> Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca> schrieb:
>
> >
> > I'm planning on using the boss rc-50 and midi sync it as slave to a boss
> > dr-657 drum manchine. Anyone had an opportunity to use these together
and
> > how successful have you been if so?
> >
> > Thanks for any input on this.
> > Mike
> >
>

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Hi,

thanks for the suggestions. The Moog thing looks sweet, but an
expensive controller if you don't need the CV outputs (which I don't,
currently). The Gordius looks interesting but again expensive - the
module + two pedals + two switches gives me less than an FCB1010 at
about 3 times the price. I guess it gives me USB connectivity but I
have a MIDI interface I use live already so that's not really an
issue.

So it's looking like the FCB for me. If only it weren't so big!


cheers,
os.



2009/4/19 GORDIUS info <info@gordius.be>:
> hey - I just happened to have a look around here, so no need to walk over to
> www.gordius.be ;-)
> Indeed, Os, if your requirements are 2 expression pedals + 2 switches + USB
> connectivity (and a big display maybe), then the LG-M should do the trick. I
> do all testing here with a cheap M-Audio black box pedal connected to the
> module - it has 2 switches plus one expression pedal, so you could add a
> second pedal next to that. The LG-M has some features which let you get
> maximum functionality out of just 2 switches. If you would feel like
> discussing this in more detail you can always contact me off list.
> (o yes, that other suggestion - the Moog MP-201 - sure is a very cool and
> good looking product!)
>
> Regards,
> Xavier
>
> Raul Bonell wrote:
>
> well, that sounds like the gordius little giant (LG) would fit your
> requirements.
> also the module (LGM) if you have the expressions and switches, is
> more portable and cheaper.
>
> ask xavier here:
>
> www.gordius.be
>
>
> 2009/4/19, Os <os@collective.co.uk>:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I wondered if people could recommend me a MIDI footcontroller.
>
> I'm more interested in expression pedals than switches. Something like
> an FCB1010 but with maybe just 2 switches, and ideally USB
> connectivity.
>
> Does such a thing exist?
>
>
> cheers,
> os.
>
> --
> os@collective.co.uk
> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/
>
>
>
>
>
>



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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
>
> So it's looking like the FCB for me. If only it weren't so big!


I use these too. Now I'm on my third one during a nine year span. They
are indeed big, but I appreciate the comfort of having the two
expression pedals on the same piece of hardware since I play them all
when performing. I've made an effort to find a case long enough to
keep an FCB inside.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Hi OS,
How many footcontrollers do you need? The Roland FC-300 has 2 exp control=
ler pedals on the board itself + 2 inputs for additional controllers. It'=
s very reliable, however no USB, can run on batteries, twice the price of=
 the FCB1010 and a little smaller. I'm selling mine, I now use a Gordius =
LG.

Btw: I also use a Korg Nano controller as a LP1 track mixer. It's fantast=
ic...and only 50 Euro's new. Highly recommended for laptop users.

--- 
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http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
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Mmm, that Roland thing looks ideal! Especially good that it has
sockets for further pedals/switches.

thanks,
os.


2009/4/20 Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>:
> Hi OS,
> How many footcontrollers do you need? The Roland FC-300 has 2 exp control=
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very reliable, however no USB, can run on batteries, twice the price of the=
 FCB1010 and a little smaller. I'm selling mine, I now use a Gordius LG.
>
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 a guitar and a TS style overdrive into the RC2=2C then i recorded the loop=
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Anders Bergdahl
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> (just a guitar and a TS style overdrive into the RC2, then i recorded the
> loop and added some delay... )
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=924516&songID=7534279

Lovely!  Sounds EXACTLY as being shit drunk at a snooker club and
realizing that everyone else in there are hostile zombies and only the
alcohol in your blood stream is keeping them from sniffing your out to
eat your brain... so starts the game; stay drunk and alive or go sober
an die... hours pass into days as life goes on...

per

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In a message dated 4/20/09 10:01:25 AM, perboysen@gmail.com writes:


> hours pass into days as life goes on...
> 

someone needs to go frolic in the sun!.....:)m



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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:10 PM,  <Nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
>> hours pass into days as life goes on...
>
>
> someone needs to go frolic in the sun!.....:)m

Scoots, you don't know how right you are! I'm on my second day here
staying indoors 24/24 typing about "classic guitar sounds". I passed
progressive hard rock this morning, did Hendrix and am about to wrap
up surf guitar in a coupla minutes. While somewhere out there the sun
is about to set for the second time.... (g-dammit need to finish this
quickly so I can play some guitar before neighbors go to bed)... well,
you get the picture ;-)

P

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Ian Petersen wrote:
> 
> Andy,
> 
>     I'm rather skeptical of that as a fix. I reckon it's a hack that
>     only works
>     if you aren't aiming for equal temperament tuning.
> 
>     i.e. it works if you stick to the usual guitarist chords,
>     but otherwise makes the guitar untunable.
> 
> 
> All guitar tunings/intonation methods are 'a bit of a hack' as long as 
> you're using fixed, regularly spaced frets. 

:-)
Sure, because equal temperament can be thought of as a hack.


>The Earvana style nut just 
> distributes the hack at each end of the string instead of just one end. 
> 
>     All it's doing is making all the fretted notes on the G
>     string a bit sharper

+++ uh, that was me getting it wrong, it makes the fretted notes flatter.

> 
> 
> All the strings get a bit of compensation. 

Yep, it's a much more sophisticated system than I thought.

It looks quite convincing here

http://www.earvana.com/technology.htm

..but I notice they don't say what happens beyond the 12th fret.

> 
> I know the Earvana nut is all wrong *in theory*. But in practice - on 
> real guitars - it works just fine! 

With a low string height over the nut you don't need to compensate.
I just checked my two main guitars and they just don't have the intonation 
problems that the Earvana bridge is supposed to fix.

Of course, if you're using it and it sounds great then that's cool :-)

andy


 

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Fellow Loopers,

Apparently, I will be one day too late to make it to Antwerp for the
Festival there, but I was wondering if anyone knows of any other events
going on, specifically near Paris, Dubrovnik, or Zadar, between 23 May and 1
June?

I will be in Durbrovnik from Saturday, 23 May to Wednesday, 27 May. Thence
to Zadar from the evening of the 27th until the morning of Sunday 31 May.
I'll be in Paris most of the 31st, leaving for the US on Monday, 1 June.

Does anyone know of anything going on near those places and those dates or
people within a quick train ride? Due to the circumstances of my trip, I
won't be bringing any of my performing gear (I'm giving a paper), but I will
be bringing a field recorder, as I plan to capture some impressions of the
Sea Organ at Zadar.

Best to all,

Dennis

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Fellow Loopers,<br><br>Apparently, I will be one day too late to make it to=
 Antwerp for the Festival there, but I was wondering if anyone knows of any=
 other events going on, specifically near Paris, Dubrovnik, or Zadar, betwe=
en 23 May and 1 June?<br>
<br>I will be in Durbrovnik from Saturday, 23 May to Wednesday, 27 May. The=
nce to Zadar from the evening of the 27th until the morning of Sunday 31 Ma=
y. I&#39;ll be in Paris most of the 31st, leaving for the US on Monday, 1 J=
une.<br>
<br>Does anyone know of anything going on near those places and those dates=
 or people within a quick train ride? Due to the circumstances of my trip, =
I won&#39;t be bringing any of my performing gear (I&#39;m giving a paper),=
 but I will be bringing a field recorder, as I plan to capture some impress=
ions of the Sea Organ at Zadar.<br>
<br>Best to all,<br><br>Dennis<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http:=
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> Apparently, I will be one day too late to make it to Antwerp for the
> Festival there, but I was wondering if anyone knows of any other events=

> going on, specifically near Paris, Dubrovnik, or Zadar, between 23 May =

> and 1 June?

Hi Dennis,
The dates for the 2 European Lie Looping festivals are:
- saturday May 30, 19:30 =3D> Antwerp, organized by me 
- saturday June 6, 22:00 =3D> Rome, organized by Fabio Anile

The linup for both festivals is (imo) fantastic, we are all looking forwa=
rd to it. Fabio will announce the details for the Rome festival soon. 

I really hope you can work out a solution for because it would be a pity =
if you would miss one of them.

--- 
Sjaak
http://euroloopfest.com/
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw


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I'm looking for a small midi foot controller too. Does anyone know  
anything about these:

Digitech Control 8
Rolls MP128 Midi Buddy Foot Controller

They have affordable prices

I saw the FCB 1010 in the shop and it's too big.

Thanks for advice,
Lb

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Subject: Re: European Live Looping festivals (was: In Europe..)
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Hi Sjaak,

Unfortunately, all my travel plans were made, and paid, by the University,
so I can't make any changes except to make day trips that I pay for ...
which means I arrive in Paris too late to make the Antwerp show and leave
too soon to get to Rome ...

Believe me, this is very frustrating, as I have been trying to plan some
kind of performance tour for some time now. This speaking opportunity came
about rather suddenly and unexpectedly (who could have guessed that my pape=
r
proposal would be accepted and the trip approved by my new employer?!), so
it has been a mixed blessing.

I have some friends in Germany and the UK that I won't be able to see, as
well.

Ah well ... such is life.

Best,

Dennis


On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:

> > Apparently, I will be one day too late to make it to Antwerp for the
> > Festival there, but I was wondering if anyone knows of any other events
> > going on, specifically near Paris, Dubrovnik, or Zadar, between 23 May
> > and 1 June?
>
> Hi Dennis,
> The dates for the 2 European Lie Looping festivals are:
> - saturday May 30, 19:30 =3D> Antwerp, organized by me
> - saturday June 6, 22:00 =3D> Rome, organized by Fabio Anile
>
> The linup for both festivals is (imo) fantastic, we are all looking forwa=
rd
> to it. Fabio will announce the details for the Rome festival soon.
>
> I really hope you can work out a solution for because it would be a pity =
if
> you would miss one of them.
>
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
>
>
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Hi Sjaak,<br><br>Unfortunately, all my travel plans were made, and paid, by=
 the University, so I can&#39;t make any changes except to make day trips t=
hat I pay for ... which means I arrive in Paris too late to make the Antwer=
p show and leave too soon to get to Rome ...<br>
<br>Believe me, this is very frustrating, as I have been trying to plan som=
e kind of performance tour for some time now. This speaking opportunity cam=
e about rather suddenly and unexpectedly (who could have guessed that my pa=
per proposal would be accepted and the trip approved by my new employer?!),=
 so it has been a mixed blessing. <br>
<br>I have some friends in Germany and the UK that I won&#39;t be able to s=
ee, as well.<br><br>Ah well ... such is life.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Dennis <b=
r><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Sjaak=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@scarlet.be">tcplugin@scar=
let.be</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&gt; Apparently, =
I will be one day too late to make it to Antwerp for the<br>
&gt; Festival there, but I was wondering if anyone knows of any other event=
s<br>
&gt; going on, specifically near Paris, Dubrovnik, or Zadar, between 23 May=
<br>
&gt; and 1 June?<br>
<br>
Hi Dennis,<br>
The dates for the 2 European Lie Looping festivals are:<br>
- saturday May 30, 19:30 =3D&gt; Antwerp, organized by me<br>
- saturday June 6, 22:00 =3D&gt; Rome, organized by Fabio Anile<br>
<br>
The linup for both festivals is (imo) fantastic, we are all looking forward=
 to it. Fabio will announce the details for the Rome festival soon.<br>
<br>
I really hope you can work out a solution for because it would be a pity if=
 you would miss one of them.<br>
<br>
---<br>
Sjaak<br>
<a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.=
com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://sjaakovergaauw.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://sjaakoverga=
auw.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw</a><br>
<br>
<br>
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These help for anyone or have they been covered??

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  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  I'm looking for a small midi foot controller too. Does anyone know =20
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  They have affordable prices

  I saw the FCB 1010 in the shop and it's too big.

  Thanks for advice,
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These help for anyone or have they been covered??

http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/effects/midimouse.html
http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/effects/midimoose.html

rick

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  I'm looking for a small midi foot controller too. Does anyone know =20
  anything about these:

  Digitech Control 8
  Rolls MP128 Midi Buddy Foot Controller

  They have affordable prices

  I saw the FCB 1010 in the shop and it's too big.

  Thanks for advice,
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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090416.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #628                April 16, 2009.

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on The Ricochet
Gathering.  The Featured CD at Midnight was Space Cowboys by Broekhuis,
Keller, Schonwalder, Spyra, and Fox on the Ricochet Dream label.

Ricochet Gathering:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#apr


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Fanger and Kersten   Night Cruisers       Elektrik Massage (Ricochet
                                            Dream)
Steve Roach and      Part 19              Stream of Thought (Projekt)
  Erik Wollo
Ron Boots            For Does             Mea Culpa (Groove)
Sensitive Chaos      Emerging             Emerging Transparency
                       Transparency         (Subsequent)
Parallel Worlds      Urgency              Shade (DiN)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Broekhuis, Keller,   Memories of          Space Cowboys(Ricochet Dreaam)
  Schonwalder,         Yesterday - Pt. 1
  Spyra and Fox
Broekhuis, Keller,   Londermolen #21      Space Cowboys(Ricochet Dreaam)
  Schonwalder,         The Live Mix    
  Spyra and Fox
Broekhuis, Keller,   Memories of          Space Cowboys(Ricochet Dreaam)
  Schonwalder,         Yesterday - Pt. 2
  Spyra and Fox
Broekhuis, Keller,   Memories of          Space Cowboys(Ricochet Dreaam)
  Schonwalder,         Yesterday - Pt. 3 *
  Spyra and Fox

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on the
Ricochet Gathering.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be Other Side of
Odra by Ololiuqui on the Ricochet Dream label.


Bill
=======================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in
Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on
93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD
Digital Radio on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels
RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml
Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls
To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This
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Hi Per,=0A=0AMany years ago I worked on a circuit which will work for your =
app. Using a Wien-bridge oscillator circuit and an op-amp, use RC of 150 pF=
 and 1MOhm on on leg, on second leg match that with 1MOhm resistor to groun=
d, and output to a metal plate(say 3 inch by 3 inch). The human body has a =
capacitance of 100-150pF, so when touching the plate the circuit is complet=
ed and you have oscillation(or not, depending on tuning). You can use simpl=
e Op-amp with the known RC above in the feedback loop, maybe make the 1MOhm=
 adjustable. Take the output to a digital switch which switches gutiar outp=
ut on/off.=0A=0AThis will provide real-time control of your drumming. Note =
that lifting your feet changes capacitance so the circuit may need to be tu=
ned but it is do-able (I actually spent a lot of time tuning this in the la=
b and got a product to market, but got ripped-off for the patent=A0 :(=A0=
=A0one more learning experience of a rookie engineer)=0A=0AIf I have time I=
'll try to breadboard this to see if I can get something going....=0A=0AIf =
you want to experiment, the touch-sensitive light switches that are availab=
le work on the same principle. Here is an example, not sure what is really =
required, may need 120VAC for this:=0Ahttp://www.touchandglow.com/product-p=
/ez-203.htm=0A=0Aalternatively, this is expensive but looks like something =
you could use with your laptop setup:=0Ahttp://www.iltsource.com/Tash_USB_W=
afer_p/25318.htm=0A=0AEric=0A=0A=0A      
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o I worked on a circuit which will work for your app. Using a Wien-bridge o=
scillator circuit and an op-amp, use RC of 150 pF and 1MOhm on on leg, on s=
econd leg match that with 1MOhm resistor to ground, and output to a metal p=
late(say 3 inch by 3 inch). The human body has a capacitance of 100-150pF, =
so when touching the plate the circuit is completed and you have oscillatio=
n(or not, depending on tuning). You can use simple Op-amp with the known RC=
 above in the feedback loop, maybe make the 1MOhm adjustable. Take the outp=
ut to a digital switch which switches gutiar output on/off.</DIV>=0A<DIV>&n=
bsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>This will provide real-time control of your drumming. Not=
e that lifting your feet changes capacitance so the circuit may need to be =
tuned but it is do-able (I actually spent a lot of time tuning this in the =
lab and got a product to market, but got ripped-off for the patent&nbsp; :(=
&nbsp;&nbsp;one more learning experience of a rookie engineer)</DIV>=0A<DIV=
>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>If I have time I'll try to breadboard this to see if I=
 can get something going....</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>If you want t=
o experiment, the touch-sensitive light switches that are available work on=
 the same principle. Here is an example, not sure what is really required, =
may need 120VAC for this:</DIV>=0A<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.touchandglow.c=
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Dennis=2C just out of curiosity=2C what are you giving a paper on??

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Regards=2C

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Anders
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Date: Mon=2C 20 Apr 2009 10:46:43 -0600
Subject: Re: European Live Looping festivals (was: In Europe..)
From: sinsofmachaut@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hi Sjaak=2C

Unfortunately=2C all my travel plans were made=2C and paid=2C by the Univer=
sity=2C so I can't make any changes except to make day trips that I pay for=
 ... which means I arrive in Paris too late to make the Antwerp show and le=
ave too soon to get to Rome ...

Believe me=2C this is very frustrating=2C as I have been trying to plan som=
e kind of performance tour for some time now. This speaking opportunity cam=
e about rather suddenly and unexpectedly (who could have guessed that my pa=
per proposal would be accepted and the trip approved by my new employer?!)=
=2C so it has been a mixed blessing.=20

I have some friends in Germany and the UK that I won't be able to see=2C as=
 well.

Ah well ... such is life.

Best=2C

Dennis=20



On Mon=2C Apr 20=2C 2009 at 9:55 AM=2C Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:

> Apparently=2C I will be one day too late to make it to Antwerp for the
> Festival there=2C but I was wondering if anyone knows of any other events
> going on=2C specifically near Paris=2C Dubrovnik=2C or Zadar=2C between 2=
3 May
> and 1 June?

Hi Dennis=2C
The dates for the 2 European Lie Looping festivals are:
- saturday May 30=2C 19:30 =3D> Antwerp=2C organized by me
- saturday June 6=2C 22:00 =3D> Rome=2C organized by Fabio Anile

The linup for both festivals is (imo) fantastic=2C we are all looking forwa=
rd to it. Fabio will announce the details for the Rome festival soon.

I really hope you can work out a solution for because it would be a pity if=
 you would miss one of them.

---
Sjaak
http://euroloopfest.com/
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw


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Dennis=2C&nbsp=3Bjust out of curiosity=2C what are you&nbsp=3Bgiving a pape=
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&nbsp=3B<BR>
Regards=2C<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Anders<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>
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Date: Mon=2C 20 Apr 2009 10:46:43 -0600<BR>Subject: Re: European Live Loopi=
ng festivals (was: In Europe..)<BR>From: sinsofmachaut@gmail.com<BR>To: Loo=
pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR><BR>Hi Sjaak=2C<BR><BR>Unfortunately=2C=
 all my travel plans were made=2C and paid=2C by the University=2C so I can=
't make any changes except to make day trips that I pay for ... which means=
 I arrive in Paris too late to make the Antwerp show and leave too soon to =
get to Rome ...<BR><BR>Believe me=2C this is very frustrating=2C as I have =
been trying to plan some kind of performance tour for some time now. This s=
peaking opportunity came about rather suddenly and unexpectedly (who could =
have guessed that my paper proposal would be accepted and the trip approved=
 by my new employer?!)=2C so it has been a mixed blessing. <BR><BR>I have s=
ome friends in Germany and the UK that I won't be able to see=2C as well.<B=
R><BR>Ah well ... such is life.<BR><BR>Best=2C<BR><BR>Dennis <BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DEC_gmail_quote>On Mon=2C Apr 20=2C 2009 at 9:55 AM=2C Sjaak <S=
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> >  ( http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D924516&so=
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> Lovely! Sounds EXACTLY as being shit drunk at a snooker club and
> realizing that everyone else in there are hostile zombies and only the
> alcohol in your blood stream is keeping them from sniffing your out to
> eat your brain... so starts the game=3B stay drunk and alive or go sober
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Following Matt's excellent example, I'm doing a more
proof-of-concept-ish performance tonight.

The URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testing-hour

The performance will start at 2000 UTC (9:00pm in GB, 22:00 in
Germany/Italy/Spain, 4pm on the US east cost, and 1pm on the west
coast. If in doubt, use
http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc or a similar
service), and will continue as long as it is fun.

Basically, it's me playing my old "loop4life" programme with the small
setup: guitar and vocals into POD X3 into DD20 into SMM w/Hazari into
KP3.

Looking forward to have you there!

              Rainer

ps: song requests will be honored ;)

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Rainer I'll plan to catch it... I'm planning to jump on the uStream
bandwagon soon as well.  Look forward to your set today.

I find this most encouraging now that this is an option for performance.  It
is more sterile than a club or my case at times the subway station but in
some cases slightly better attended and it has that wonderful interaction
that was seen in Matt's sets.  As Pogo or somebody said 'the future is
us...'

Jim

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Following Matt's excellent example, I'm doing a more
> proof-of-concept-ish performance tonight.
>
> The URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testing-hour
>
> The performance will start at 2000 UTC (9:00pm in GB, 22:00 in
> Germany/Italy/Spain, 4pm on the US east cost, and 1pm on the west
> coast. If in doubt, use
> http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc or a similar
> service), and will continue as long as it is fun.
>
> Basically, it's me playing my old "loop4life" programme with the small
> setup: guitar and vocals into POD X3 into DD20 into SMM w/Hazari into
> KP3.
>
> Looking forward to have you there!
>
>              Rainer
>
> ps: song requests will be honored ;)
>
>


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<div>Rainer I&#39;ll plan=A0to catch it... I&#39;m planning to jump on the =
uStream bandwagon soon as well.=A0 Look forward to your set today.=A0 </div=
>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I find this most encouraging now that this is an option for performanc=
e.=A0 It is more sterile than a club or my case at times the subway station=
 but in some cases slightly better attended and it has that wonderful inter=
action that was seen in Matt&#39;s sets.=A0 As Pogo or somebody said &#39;t=
he future is us...&#39;</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Jim<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Rainer Straschi=
ll <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com">moinso=
und@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Following Matt&#39;s excellent e=
xample, I&#39;m doing a more<br>proof-of-concept-ish performance tonight.<b=
r>
<br>The URL: <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testing=
-hour" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testin=
g-hour</a><br><br>The performance will start at 2000 UTC (9:00pm in GB, 22:=
00 in<br>
Germany/Italy/Spain, 4pm on the US east cost, and 1pm on the west<br>coast.=
 If in doubt, use<br><a href=3D"http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tz=
c.tzc" target=3D"_blank">http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc</=
a> or a similar<br>
service), and will continue as long as it is fun.<br><br>Basically, it&#39;=
s me playing my old &quot;loop4life&quot; programme with the small<br>setup=
: guitar and vocals into POD X3 into DD20 into SMM w/Hazari into<br>KP3.<br=
>
<br>Looking forward to have you there!<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>=A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer<br></font><br>ps: song requests will be honor=
ed ;)<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>music link=
s...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a=
><br>
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><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
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Earvana=2C compensated nuts=2C Buzz Feiten is all variations of imperfectio=
n. I have looked in to just intonation and realised that you really cant be=
 in tone in more than one key on most instruments. the closest you can get =
is the True temperament TT (http://www.truetemperament.com/site/index.php).=
 I prefer to TRY to learn to get there like Steve Kimock=2C by bending stin=
gs by pulling or pushing the strings to get the pitch you are after to to u=
se string bends to get the "correct" pitch. I tried a Swedish made acoustic=
 ( http://www.truetemperament.com/site/index.php?go=3D2&sgo=3D8 )with a TT =
and i found it to sound sterile.=20

I don't really like Buzz Fieten either=2C most high en guitars have some de=
gree of compensation. But as I say the final fine tuning has to be made whi=
le playing. (BTW in open G i slightly lower the b string to get a true thir=
d=2C but the i need to compensate even more to play other chords)
I think many of us are so used to the non perfection of ordinary guitars so=
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Earvana=2C compensated nuts=2C Buzz Feiten is all variations of imperfectio=
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). I prefer to TRY to learn to get there like Steve Kimock=2C by bending st=
ings by pulling or pushing the strings to get the pitch you are&nbsp=3Bafte=
r to&nbsp=3Bto use string bends to get the "correct" pitch. I tried a Swedi=
sh made acoustic ( <A href=3D"http://www.truetemperament.com/site/index.php=
?go=3D2&amp=3Bsgo=3D8">http://www.truetemperament.com/site/index.php?go=3D2=
&amp=3Bsgo=3D8</A>&nbsp=3B)with a TT and i found it to sound sterile.&nbsp=
=3B<BR>
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love this Anders, like whales and Adrian Belew....

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Anders Bergdahl <
anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Late Saturday in the cottage, wife at sleep upstairs and only RC2 to play
> around with. Crazy idea, lets make ca 1 second long loop with more or less
> random sparse playing, Then fill loop with overdubs and lets see how it
> sounds. Main ambition is to get free from tonal center, key, chords, scales
> and so on. Since there is no feedback control and other fun stuff with the
> RC2 i just overdub until it feels "full". It was very a fun and meditative
> way of practicing, the result is mostly... strange, but somehow i kind of
> like it.
> Maybe this way of practicing will yield something of value one day??? (just
> a guitar and a TS style overdrive into the RC2, then i recorded the loop and
> added some delay... )
>
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=924516&songID=7534279
> Lets hear you're crazy experiments :)
>
>



-- 
music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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love this Anders, like whales and=A0Adrian Belew....<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Anders Bergdahl=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com">and=
ers_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div>Late Saturday in the cottage, wife at sleep upstairs and only RC2 to p=
lay around with. Crazy idea, lets make ca 1 second long loop with more or l=
ess random sparse playing, Then fill loop with overdubs and lets see how it=
 sounds. Main ambition is to get free from tonal center, key, chords, scale=
s and so on. Since there is no feedback control and other fun stuff with th=
e RC2 i just overdub until it feels &quot;full&quot;. It was very a fun and=
 meditative way of practicing, the result is mostly... strange, but somehow=
 i kind of like it. <br>
Maybe this way of practicing will yield something of value one day??? (just=
 a guitar and a TS style overdrive into the RC2, then i recorded the loop a=
nd added some delay... )<br><a href=3D"http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page=
_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D924516&amp;songID=3D7534279" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D924516&amp;songID=3D7=
534279</a><br>
Lets hear you&#39;re crazy experiments :)<br>=A0<br></div></blockquote></di=
v><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.=
jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chi=
napaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Anders Bergdahl
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> I think many of us are so used to the non perfection of ordinary guitars so
> that we think it SHOULD sound that way...

I think you are right! But this means the opposite applies as well: If
you should try playing in fixed/pure tuning for a while you may found
it a drag to go back to tempered.

Per

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I'll be there with bells on Rainer! I too am planning to follow in ya'lls 
footsteps. What kind of camera/audio interface are you using?

peace,

Jeff

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> Following Matt's excellent example, I'm doing a more
> proof-of-concept-ish performance tonight.
>
> The URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testing-hour
>
> The performance will start at 2000 UTC (9:00pm in GB, 22:00 in
> Germany/Italy/Spain, 4pm on the US east cost, and 1pm on the west
> coast. If in doubt, use
> http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc or a similar
> service), and will continue as long as it is fun.
>
> Basically, it's me playing my old "loop4life" programme with the small
> setup: guitar and vocals into POD X3 into DD20 into SMM w/Hazari into
> KP3.
>
> Looking forward to have you there!
>
>              Rainer
>
> ps: song requests will be honored ;)
>
> 

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have u seen the upcoming drum box from Roger?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zMn15COpnE&feature=PlayList&p=92EE84C34DC87DED&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3

i know too big!

how many of you are syncing groove boxes,sampers,drum achines,etc. live with your loopers? i want to see more of this and hear experiences,it seems the majority of loopers dont,in fact at the loop festivals ive been to i havent seen many doing it and wonder why,i know youll probably say it more interesting making your own grooves though if u are creative this can be also very cool
anyway just curious!
cheers


www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


      

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Rainer how long are you planning to play today - I may have to come and go
and return possibly?

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Following Matt's excellent example, I'm doing a more
> proof-of-concept-ish performance tonight.
>
> The URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testing-hour
>
> The performance will start at 2000 UTC (9:00pm in GB, 22:00 in
> Germany/Italy/Spain, 4pm on the US east cost, and 1pm on the west
> coast. If in doubt, use
> http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc or a similar
> service), and will continue as long as it is fun.
>
> Basically, it's me playing my old "loop4life" programme with the small
> setup: guitar and vocals into POD X3 into DD20 into SMM w/Hazari into
> KP3.
>
> Looking forward to have you there!
>
>              Rainer
>
> ps: song requests will be honored ;)
>
>


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www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
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Rainer how long are you planning to play today - I may have to come and go =
and return possibly?<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Rainer Straschi=
ll <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com">moinso=
und@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Following Matt&#39;s excellent e=
xample, I&#39;m doing a more<br>proof-of-concept-ish performance tonight.<b=
r>
<br>The URL: <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testing=
-hour" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testin=
g-hour</a><br><br>The performance will start at 2000 UTC (9:00pm in GB, 22:=
00 in<br>
Germany/Italy/Spain, 4pm on the US east cost, and 1pm on the west<br>coast.=
 If in doubt, use<br><a href=3D"http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tz=
c.tzc" target=3D"_blank">http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc</=
a> or a similar<br>
service), and will continue as long as it is fun.<br><br>Basically, it&#39;=
s me playing my old &quot;loop4life&quot; programme with the small<br>setup=
: guitar and vocals into POD X3 into DD20 into SMM w/Hazari into<br>KP3.<br=
>
<br>Looking forward to have you there!<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>=A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer<br></font><br>ps: song requests will be honor=
ed ;)<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>music link=
s...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<br>

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I'm going to use iSight in a Macbook Pro which seems supported by uStream
from what I read.  Jim

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> I'll be there with bells on Rainer! I too am planning to follow in ya'lls
> footsteps. What kind of camera/audio interface are you using?
>
> peace,
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" <
> moinsound@googlemail.com>
> To: <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:07 PM
> Subject: MoinSound Live Performance on UStream
>
>
>
> Following Matt's excellent example, I'm doing a more
>> proof-of-concept-ish performance tonight.
>>
>> The URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testing-hour
>>
>> The performance will start at 2000 UTC (9:00pm in GB, 22:00 in
>> Germany/Italy/Spain, 4pm on the US east cost, and 1pm on the west
>> coast. If in doubt, use
>> http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc or a similar
>> service), and will continue as long as it is fun.
>>
>> Basically, it's me playing my old "loop4life" programme with the small
>> setup: guitar and vocals into POD X3 into DD20 into SMM w/Hazari into
>> KP3.
>>
>> Looking forward to have you there!
>>
>>             Rainer
>>
>> ps: song requests will be honored ;)
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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I&#39;m going to use iSight in a Macbook Pro which seems supported by uStre=
am from what I read.=A0 Jim<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Jeff Duke <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I&#39;ll be there with bells on =
Rainer! I too am planning to follow in ya&#39;lls footsteps. What kind of c=
amera/audio interface are you using?<br>
<br>peace,<br><br>Jeff<br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Rain=
er Straschill&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l=
oopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">loopers-delight@loope=
rs-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:07 PM<br>Subject: MoinSound Live Performance=
 on UStream=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Following Matt&#39;s excellent e=
xample, I&#39;m doing a more<br>proof-of-concept-ish performance tonight.<b=
r>
<br>The URL: <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testing=
-hour" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-testin=
g-hour</a><br><br>The performance will start at 2000 UTC (9:00pm in GB, 22:=
00 in<br>
Germany/Italy/Spain, 4pm on the US east cost, and 1pm on the west<br>coast.=
 If in doubt, use<br><a href=3D"http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tz=
c.tzc" target=3D"_blank">http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc</=
a> or a similar<br>
service), and will continue as long as it is fun.<br><br>Basically, it&#39;=
s me playing my old &quot;loop4life&quot; programme with the small<br>setup=
: guitar and vocals into POD X3 into DD20 into SMM w/Hazari into<br>KP3.<br=
>
<br>Looking forward to have you there!<br><br>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Raine=
r<br><br>ps: song requests will be honored ;)<br><br><br></blockquote><br><=
/div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>music links.=
..<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><=
br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<br>

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Hi folks,

I'll be doing video improvisations this Friday with an expanded 
version of one of my favorite bands, The Lothars. Expect long spacy 
improvisations, both musical and visual.

At 6:10 PM -0500 4/19/09, The Lothars wrote:
>  Witness (if you dare!) a rare performance by The Lothars this 
>Friday, April 24, 2009, at the 
><http://megapolisfestival.org/blogalogadingdong/>Megapolis Festival.
>
>The Megapolis Festival is a weekend-long celebration of the craft of 
>DIY audio creation. Artists, documentarians, musicians, and fans 
>will be coming together to share secrets on producing and presenting 
>challenging audio works online, on-air, and on the stage.
>
>The Lothars will be headlining the opening night party at the 
>Massasoit Elks Lodge, 55 Bishop Allen Dr., in Cambridge, MA, that 
>also features performances by 
><http://radiowonderland.org/serendipity/>Radio Wonderland, 
><http://www.tammen.org/ens_schraub.html>Die Schrauber 
><http://www.bostontypewriterorchestra.com/>Boston Typewriter 
>Orchestra and <http://www.myspace.com/peachloving>Peace, Loving.
>
>Once again, Dr. T will be providing visuals during our set and, as 
>an added treat, the Lothars' twin theremin attack will be joined on 
>stage by guitar hero Mark Sullivan (who, we are told, has never 
>played Guitar Hero) and cello heroine 
><http://wisteriax.tripod.com/>Wisteriax (who, we are told, has in 
>fact played Guitar Hero several times). Lothars performances are 
>rare enough even without talents like Mark and Wisteriax, so this 
>should be an extra-special treat.
>
>The opening night party starts at 6:30pm and runs until 11:30pm, 
>with the Lothars going on at around 10pm. Tickets are $10, $7 for 
>students and free if you splurge for a weekend pass. Detailed ticket 
>info is available 
><http://megapolisfestival.org/blogalogadingdong/?page_id=10>here.

For more info about the festival, 
http://megapolisfestival.org/blogalogadingdong/?page_id=2

-- 
My photography can be viewed at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/

My videos can be viewed at
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		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
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ok...played for some time, only to look at the computer afterwards and
catch some "firefox encountered an unexpected problem and thus had to
make fun of you while everyone kept laughing..."

Just when I started the thing, it wanted to install some firefox
plugin (worked perfectly ok without it just an hour before)...seems
we're still guinea pigs here. Kudos to Matt who obviously has mastered
this already.

I'll be back, one day...;)

Thanks again to all of you who tuned in!

           Rainer

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Anders,

LOL ...I'll be speaking on the issues of digital preservation for virtual
realities and online video games ... the conference is Libraries in the
Digital Age. The only musical connection is my performances in Second Life
... *grin

Best,

Dennis

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Anders Bergdahl <
anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Dennis, just out of curiosity, what are you giving a paper on??
>
> Regards,
>
> Anders
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:46:43 -0600
> Subject: Re: European Live Looping festivals (was: In Europe..)
> From: sinsofmachaut@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Hi Sjaak,
>
> Unfortunately, all my travel plans were made, and paid, by the University=
,
> so I can't make any changes except to make day trips that I pay for ...
> which means I arrive in Paris too late to make the Antwerp show and leave
> too soon to get to Rome ...
>
> Believe me, this is very frustrating, as I have been trying to plan some
> kind of performance tour for some time now. This speaking opportunity cam=
e
> about rather suddenly and unexpectedly (who could have guessed that my pa=
per
> proposal would be accepted and the trip approved by my new employer?!), s=
o
> it has been a mixed blessing.
>
> I have some friends in Germany and the UK that I won't be able to see, as
> well.
>
> Ah well ... such is life.
>
> Best,
>
> Dennis
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
>
> > Apparently, I will be one day too late to make it to Antwerp for the
> > Festival there, but I was wondering if anyone knows of any other events
> > going on, specifically near Paris, Dubrovnik, or Zadar, between 23 May
> > and 1 June?
>
> Hi Dennis,
> The dates for the 2 European Lie Looping festivals are:
> - saturday May 30, 19:30 =3D> Antwerp, organized by me
> - saturday June 6, 22:00 =3D> Rome, organized by Fabio Anile
>
> The linup for both festivals is (imo) fantastic, we are all looking forwa=
rd
> to it. Fabio will announce the details for the Rome festival soon.
>
> I really hope you can work out a solution for because it would be a pity =
if
> you would miss one of them.
>
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
>
>
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Anders,<br><br>LOL ...I&#39;ll be speaking on the issues of digital preserv=
ation for virtual realities and online video games ... the conference is Li=
braries in the Digital Age. The only musical connection is my performances =
in Second Life ... *grin<br>
<br>Best,<br><br>Dennis<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2=
009 at 11:49 AM, Anders Bergdahl <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:an=
ders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com">anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



<div>
Dennis,=A0just out of curiosity, what are you=A0giving a paper on??<br>
=A0<br>
Regards,<br>
=A0<br>
Anders<br>=A0<br>
<hr>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:46:43 -0600<br>Subject: Re: European Live Looping=
 festivals (was: In Europe..)<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:sinsofmachaut@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">sinsofmachaut@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mail=
to:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@l=
oopers-delight.com</a><br>
<br>Hi Sjaak,<br><br>Unfortunately, all my travel plans were made, and paid=
, by the University, so I can&#39;t make any changes except to make day tri=
ps that I pay for ... which means I arrive in Paris too late to make the An=
twerp show and leave too soon to get to Rome ...<br>
<br>Believe me, this is very frustrating, as I have been trying to plan som=
e kind of performance tour for some time now. This speaking opportunity cam=
e about rather suddenly and unexpectedly (who could have guessed that my pa=
per proposal would be accepted and the trip approved by my new employer?!),=
 so it has been a mixed blessing. <br>
<br>I have some friends in Germany and the UK that I won&#39;t be able to s=
ee, as well.<br><br>Ah well ... such is life.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Dennis <b=
r><br><br>
<div>On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Sjaak <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:tcplugin@scarlet.be" target=3D"_blank">tcplugin@scarlet.be</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 1ex;">&gt; Apparently, I will be one day=
 too late to make it to Antwerp for the<br>&gt; Festival there, but I was w=
ondering if anyone knows of any other events<br>&gt; going on, specifically=
 near Paris, Dubrovnik, or Zadar, between 23 May<br>
&gt; and 1 June?<br><br>Hi Dennis,<br>The dates for the 2 European Lie Loop=
ing festivals are:<br>- saturday May 30, 19:30 =3D&gt; Antwerp, organized b=
y me<br>- saturday June 6, 22:00 =3D&gt; Rome, organized by Fabio Anile<br>
<br>The linup for both festivals is (imo) fantastic, we are all looking for=
ward to it. Fabio will announce the details for the Rome festival soon.<br>=
<br>I really hope you can work out a solution for because it would be a pit=
y if you would miss one of them.<br>
<br>---<br>Sjaak<br><a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank">=
http://euroloopfest.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://sjaakovergaauw.com/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://sjaakovergaauw.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.last.=
fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw" target=3D"_blank">http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+=
Overgaauw</a><br>
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ek.com/</a><br>
</div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://myspa=
ce.com/usrsbin">http://myspace.com/usrsbin</a><br><a href=3D"http://audiozo=
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Zoe Keating is playing at Old First Church, on Van Ness and Sacramento, Fri=
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So how does this work with the Ustream thing?

I just found the "metrics" page in my profile and discovered I had 38
unique viewers. Who are those guys? And how did they know?

Matt, you're familiar with that?

              Rainer

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I don't know if it helped but I put the link on my Facebook page, I know at 
least one relative showed up.


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> So how does this work with the Ustream thing?
>
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>
> Matt, you're familiar with that?
>
>              Rainer
>
> 

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So this is the situation:
My echoplex digital pro wasn't giving out any sound, so I went ahead and
switched wall outlets as well as moved it to a different location. Now when
I turn it on, it is frozen ( most lights are on and won't budge or numbers
will show up on screen and won't budge.. Loop name doesn't flash through the
screen ). I've tried different outlets to fix the problem but nothing will
work. What do I do at this point? If nothing is resolved, will Gibson be
able to fix it even though they stopped making them?

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So this is the situation:<div><br></div><div>My echoplex digital pro wasn&#=
39;t giving out any sound, so I went ahead and switched wall outlets as wel=
l as moved it to a different location. Now when I turn it on, it is frozen =
( most lights are on and won&#39;t budge or numbers will show up on screen =
and won&#39;t budge.. Loop name doesn&#39;t flash through the screen ). I&#=
39;ve tried different outlets to fix the problem but nothing will work. Wha=
t do I do at this point? If nothing is resolved, will Gibson be able to fix=
 it even though they stopped making them?</div>

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39, if i had know of this ...

:-(

2009/4/20, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>:
> So how does this work with the Ustream thing?
>
> I just found the "metrics" page in my profile and discovered I had 38
> unique viewers. Who are those guys? And how did they know?
>
> Matt, you're familiar with that?
>
>               Rainer
>
>


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39, if i had known of this ...

:-(

2009/4/20, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>:
> So how does this work with the Ustream thing?
>
> I just found the "metrics" page in my profile and discovered I had 38
> unique viewers. Who are those guys? And how did they know?
>
> Matt, you're familiar with that?
>
>               Rainer
>
>


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Might be a dumb question but did you try to reset it maybe??

Rick


On 4/20/09 8:21 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:

> So this is the situation:
> 
> My echoplex digital pro wasn't giving out any sound, so I went ahead and
> switched wall outlets as well as moved it to a different location. Now when I
> turn it on, it is frozen ( most lights are on and won't budge or numbers will
> show up on screen and won't budge.. Loop name doesn't flash through the screen
> ). I've tried different outlets to fix the problem but nothing will work. What
> do I do at this point? If nothing is resolved, will Gibson be able to fix it
> even though they stopped making them?
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Rainer are you going to try it again soon?,think you should in light
of the desktop issue.
Jim

On 4/20/09, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> So how does this work with the Ustream thing?
>
> I just found the "metrics" page in my profile and discovered I had 38
> unique viewers. Who are those guys? And how did they know?
>
> Matt, you're familiar with that?
>
>               Rainer
>
>


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Thanks for the input so far on this issue. I  have a boss  dr-3 which I've
been trying to sync with midi to my rc-50, gut no luck so far having the
rc-50 as master to the dr-3. it will sync on starts and stops but otherwise
will not sync up with any loops I've been creating. I have them both set to
'auto' for the tx and rx settings. The dr-3 only has midi in capacity. I'm
not sure if this problem is due to the limitations of the rc-50 or not
having made the appropriate settings on it. Any further suggestions
welcomed.

Cheers,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
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Yes, right. I never had problems running the RC 50 as master for my Groove
Box. Never used it as slave, I guess. But I will check out and let you know
soon.
Best,
Christo
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota

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>
> Hello Mike,
> I think it would be better to use the RC50 as midi master (if possible),
as it seems to have difficulties in following sync as a midi slave.
>
> Although I haven't tried to do such thing yet, I use it as midi master for
my TC M300 - in order to sync the delay of the M300 with the the tempo
button of my RC50. This works well.
>
> Dirk
>
>
>
> Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca> schrieb:
>
> >
> > I'm planning on using the boss rc-50 and midi sync it as slave to a boss
> > dr-657 drum manchine. Anyone had an opportunity to use these together
and
> > how successful have you been if so?
> >
> > Thanks for any input on this.
> > Mike
> >
>

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Hi Sjaak & Fabio,
Is there any chance the events to be video-streamed?


2009/4/20, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>:
>> Apparently, I will be one day too late to make it to Antwerp for the
>> Festival there, but I was wondering if anyone knows of any other events
>> going on, specifically near Paris, Dubrovnik, or Zadar, between 23 May
>> and 1 June?
>
> Hi Dennis,
> The dates for the 2 European Lie Looping festivals are:
> - saturday May 30, 19:30 =3D> Antwerp, organized by me
> - saturday June 6, 22:00 =3D> Rome, organized by Fabio Anile
>
> The linup for both festivals is (imo) fantastic, we are all looking forwa=
rd
> to it. Fabio will announce the details for the Rome festival soon.
>
> I really hope you can work out a solution for because it would be a pity =
if
> you would miss one of them.
>
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
>
>
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My question is probably more dumb:
How do you reset it?

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com> wrote:

>
> Might be a dumb question but did you try to reset it maybe??
>
> Rick
>
>
> On 4/20/09 8:21 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So this is the situation:
>
> My echoplex digital pro wasn't giving out any sound, so I went ahead and
> switched wall outlets as well as moved it to a different location. Now when
> I turn it on, it is frozen ( most lights are on and won't budge or numbers
> will show up on screen and won't budge.. Loop name doesn't flash through the
> screen ). I've tried different outlets to fix the problem but nothing will
> work. What do I do at this point? If nothing is resolved, will Gibson be
> able to fix it even though they stopped making them?
>
>

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My question is probably more dumb:<div><br></div><div>How do you reset it?<=
br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Rick Mil=
ler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bs@tanawana.com">bs@tanawana.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
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<font size=3D"4"><font face=3D"Lucida Grande"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt=
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Might be a dumb question but did you try to reset it maybe??<br><font color=
=3D"#888888">
<br>
Rick</font><div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 4/20/09 8:21 PM, &quot;Timothy Miller&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timmyl=
miller@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">timmylmiller@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r>
<br>
</div></span></font></font><div class=3D"im"><blockquote><font size=3D"4"><=
font face=3D"Lucida Grande"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">So this is the s=
ituation:<br>
<br>
My echoplex digital pro wasn&#39;t giving out any sound, so I went ahead an=
d switched wall outlets as well as moved it to a different location. Now wh=
en I turn it on, it is frozen ( most lights are on and won&#39;t budge or n=
umbers will show up on screen and won&#39;t budge.. Loop name doesn&#39;t f=
lash through the screen ). I&#39;ve tried different outlets to fix the prob=
lem but nothing will work. What do I do at this point? If nothing is resolv=
ed, will Gibson be able to fix it even though they stopped making them?<br>

<br>
</span></font></font></blockquote>
</div></div>


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>From my manual -
=B3The Parameters can be reset to the factory defaults. To do this, hold  dow=
n
the Parameter Button when you turn on the power to the Echoplex. Once the
start up screen displays, you can release it. When the  Echoplex has fully
booted up, all of the Parameters will be reset.=B3

Keep your fingers crossed :O)

rick


On 4/20/09 9:27 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:

> My question is probably more dumb:
>=20
> How do you reset it?
>=20
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Might be a dumb question but did you try to reset it maybe??
>>=20
>> Rick
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 4/20/09 8:21 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> So this is the situation:
>>>=20
>>> My echoplex digital pro wasn't giving out any sound, so I went ahead an=
d
>>> switched wall outlets as well as moved it to a different location. Now =
when
>>> I turn it on, it is frozen ( most lights are on and won't budge or numb=
ers
>>> will show up on screen and won't budge.. Loop name doesn't flash throug=
h the
>>> screen ). I've tried different outlets to fix the problem but nothing w=
ill
>>> work. What do I do at this point? If nothing is resolved, will Gibson b=
e
>>> able to fix it even though they stopped making them?
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rick<BR>
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<BR>
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<BR>
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Rick<BR>
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<BR>
<BR>
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Not having any luck at the moment. Any other suggestions?

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com> wrote:

>  From my manual -
> =93The Parameters can be reset to the factory defaults. To do this, hold
>  down the Parameter Button when you turn on the power to the Echoplex. On=
ce
> the start up screen displays, you can release it. When the  Echoplex has
> fully booted up, all of the Parameters will be reset.=93
>
> Keep your fingers crossed :O)
>
> rick
>
>
> On 4/20/09 9:27 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My question is probably more dumb:
>
> How do you reset it?
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com> wrote:
>
>
> Might be a dumb question but did you try to reset it maybe??
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On 4/20/09 8:21 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So this is the situation:
>
> My echoplex digital pro wasn't giving out any sound, so I went ahead and
> switched wall outlets as well as moved it to a different location. Now wh=
en
> I turn it on, it is frozen ( most lights are on and won't budge or number=
s
> will show up on screen and won't budge.. Loop name doesn't flash through =
the
> screen ). I've tried different outlets to fix the problem but nothing wil=
l
> work. What do I do at this point? If nothing is resolved, will Gibson be
> able to fix it even though they stopped making them?
>
>
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Not having any luck at the moment. Any other suggestions?<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Rick Miller <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bs@tanawana.com">bs@tanawana.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">



<div>
<font size=3D"5"><font face=3D"Lucida Grande"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt=
">From my manual -<br>
</span></font><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"><font face=3D"Times, Times New=
 Roman">=93The Parameters can be reset to the factory defaults. To do this,=
 hold =A0down the Parameter Button when you turn on the power to the Echopl=
ex. Once the start up screen displays, you can release it. When the =A0Echo=
plex has fully booted up, all of the Parameters will be reset.=93<br>

<br>
Keep your fingers crossed :O)<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
rick<br>
</font></font></span></font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><font size=3D=
"4"><font face=3D"Lucida Grande"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><br>
<br>
On 4/20/09 9:27 PM, &quot;Timothy Miller&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timmyl=
miller@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">timmylmiller@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r>
<br>
</span></font></font><blockquote><font size=3D"4"><font face=3D"Lucida Gran=
de"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">My question is probably more dumb:<br>
<br>
How do you reset it?<br>
<br>
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Rick Miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bs@tanaw=
ana.com" target=3D"_blank">bs@tanawana.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</span></font></font><blockquote><font size=3D"4"><font face=3D"Lucida Gran=
de"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><br>
Might be a dumb question but did you try to reset it maybe??<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Rick<br>
</font><br>
<br>
<br>
On 4/20/09 8:21 PM, &quot;Timothy Miller&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timmyl=
miller@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">timmylmiller@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r>
<br>
</span></font></font><blockquote><font size=3D"4"><font face=3D"Lucida Gran=
de"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">So this is the situation:<br>
<br>
My echoplex digital pro wasn&#39;t giving out any sound, so I went ahead an=
d switched wall outlets as well as moved it to a different location. Now wh=
en I turn it on, it is frozen ( most lights are on and won&#39;t budge or n=
umbers will show up on screen and won&#39;t budge.. Loop name doesn&#39;t f=
lash through the screen ). I&#39;ve tried different outlets to fix the prob=
lem but nothing will work. What do I do at this point? If nothing is resolv=
ed, will Gibson be able to fix it even though they stopped making them?<br>

<br>
</span></font></font></blockquote></blockquote><font size=3D"4"><font face=
=3D"Lucida Grande"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><br>
<br>
</span></font></font></blockquote>
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does anybody have used this open source software
for music notation? looks interesting.

-- 
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> Hi Sjaak & Fabio,
> Is there any chance the events to be video-streamed?

Hi Raul,
Although I know how to setup an online video event, the Antwerp festival =
will not be video-streamed due to the lack of a fast internet connection.=

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On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
>> Hi Sjaak & Fabio,
>> Is there any chance the events to be video-streamed?
>
> Hi Raul,
> Although I know how to setup an online video event, the Antwerp festival will not be video-streamed due to the lack of a fast internet connection.
> ---


I think it may even be better to simply record, or film, and upload it
after the event "as documentation". That way many more will have a
fair chance to experience the event (due to time zones).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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> Per wrote:
> I think it may even be better to simply record, or film, and upload it
> after the event "as documentation". That way many more will have a
> fair chance to experience the event (due to time zones).

Hi Per,
I agree. And good news is that the Antwerp festival will be recorded, bot=
h audio and video :)

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What i heard was great mate

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On 20 Apr 2009, at 21:49, Rainer Straschill wrote:

> ok...played for some time, only to look at the computer afterwards and
> catch some "firefox encountered an unexpected problem and thus had to
> make fun of you while everyone kept laughing..."
>
> Just when I started the thing, it wanted to install some firefox
> plugin (worked perfectly ok without it just an hour before)...seems
> we're still guinea pigs here. Kudos to Matt who obviously has mastered
> this already.
>
> I'll be back, one day...;)
>
> Thanks again to all of you who tuned in!
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>            Rainer
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What i heard was great mate=A0<div><br><div> <span =
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You do get an element of people browsing ustream.  When are you  
ustreaming again? - We should really consider getting everyone  
together for an all day virtual ustream loop festival....

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com




On 21 Apr 2009, at 02:09, Raul Bonell wrote:

> 39, if i had know of this ...
>
> :-(
>
> 2009/4/20, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>:
>> So how does this work with the Ustream thing?
>>
>> I just found the "metrics" page in my profile and discovered I had 38
>> unique viewers. Who are those guys? And how did they know?
>>
>> Matt, you're familiar with that?
>>
>>               Rainer
>>
>>
>
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I like the concept of Ustream. So I've watched both Matt's and Marc's gig=
s last week, it was great! I normally have my macbook connected to my "PA=
" to have a godo audio quality but not in this case so I have been listen=
ing thru my laptop speakers. But what audio and video quality can we expe=
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> Mike wrote:
> Thanks for the input so far on this issue. I  have a boss  dr-3 which I=
've
> been trying to sync with midi to my rc-50, gut no luck so far having th=
e
> rc-50 as master to the dr-3. it will sync on starts and stops but other=
wise
> will not sync up with any loops I've been creating. I have them both se=
t to
> 'auto' for the tx and rx settings. The dr-3 only has midi in capacity. =
I'm
> not sure if this problem is due to the limitations of the rc-50 or not
> having made the appropriate settings on it. Any further suggestions
> welcomed.

Hi Mike,
Slave sync does not work well. See this webpage for the details:

http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/rc50.shtml



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Ive asked this before but got no response,i dont know how many of you are using the EDP as slave,the advantage i see using it this way specially using samplers with canned loops is not having to predefine tempos and record a loop at anytime without predefining lenght etc.
right now the disadvantage i have slaving the EDP to my adrenalinn is not being able to stop it or use the other syncronization midi comands you can use when the EDP is master like QuantMIDIStartSong,MuteQuantMIDIStartSong.
Yet with the adrenalinn i am able to start and stop the eventide looper with no problem! 
So is there a chance the EDP would respond to those functions if i used a sequencer with better midi implementation?
thanx
Luis
 
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Luis,

if it doesn't work with Sync=In
..then it doesn't work.

If you use a sequencer to send a whole bunch of commands to the edp
that will work fine.
If you do that, then use Restarts for synchronisation, 
and have SamplerStyle=STA

I'll copy this to Matthias, maybe the LoopV software should have Sync=InS

andy
;-) canned loops tho'..........shakes head  

L.Angulo wrote:
> Ive asked this before but got no response,i dont know how many of you are using the EDP as slave,the advantage i see using it this way specially using samplers with canned loops is not having to predefine tempos and record a loop at anytime without predefining lenght etc.
> right now the disadvantage i have slaving the EDP to my adrenalinn is not being able to stop it or use the other syncronization midi comands you can use when the EDP is master like QuantMIDIStartSong,MuteQuantMIDIStartSong.
> Yet with the adrenalinn i am able to start and stop the eventide looper with no problem! 
> So is there a chance the EDP would respond to those functions if i used a sequencer with better midi implementation?
> thanx
> Luis
>  
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:56 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So is there a chance the EDP would respond to those functions if i used a sequencer > with better midi implementation?

I guess "better midi implementation" means sending MTC. That's indeed
better than MIDI Clock but I'm not sure the EDP supports it. Should't
you be able to record any need MIDI in the sequencer to have it sent
out into the EDP? Just noticed Andy's reply and hopefully Matthias
will chime in.

Per

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Per Boysen schrieb:
> I'm looking for a controller that meets these three criteria:
> 1) big enough for finger drumming with five finger tips.
> 2) defalut mode of switch has to be to silence the signal.
> 3) the shall let through audio for exactly the time being touched.

I would glue/tape a Korg nanoPAD onto the instrument and do the rest in 
software. Its cheap, and you get lots of velocity sensitive Pads, plus a 
trackpad. To do some magic in Max-Pd-Bidule-Live-Logic to fullfill the 
other specs shouldn't be too hard...

Stefan

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Please get that straight

I dont understand why you would use a _time_ reference where you need a=20
Tempo and bar/beats/sub beats reference.

midi clock could be better and more stable if the bit rate would be=20
brought to the today bandwidth standards but its non sense to use a=20
standard (MTC) that is not intended for Tempo sync

Midi time clock is not Midi clock
Midi time clock just transmits where its at in the song in HH:MM:SS:FF=20
(hour,minutes,seconds,frames) no tempo,bars, etc


http://www.tweakheadz.com/sync_mmc_mtc_smpte.htm


Claude




Per Boysen a =C3=A9crit :
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:56 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:=

>> So is there a chance the EDP would respond to those functions if i use=
d a sequencer > with better midi implementation?
>=20
> I guess "better midi implementation" means sending MTC. That's indeed
> better than MIDI Clock but I'm not sure the EDP supports it. Should't
> you be able to record any need MIDI in the sequencer to have it sent
> out into the EDP? Just noticed Andy's reply and hopefully Matthias
> will chime in.
>=20
> Per
>=20
>=20
>=20

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What i have been hearing especially from Matt is good quality audo. I want 
to do this also but am unsure what audio/ video setup to get. Matt, do you 
use the built in mic on a webcam for audio or what? Any tips would help. I 
am as usual on a tight budget! (yikes). Some webcams advertise quality 
sound. sony makes some and Logitech but I just don't know. It would be nice 
to use my regular line in for sound and the webcam for vid.

more coffee,

Jeff


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I like the concept of Ustream. So I've watched both Matt's and Marc's gigs 
last week, it was great! I normally have my macbook connected to my "PA" to 
have a godo audio quality but not in this case so I have been listening thru 
my laptop speakers. But what audio and video quality can we expect from 
Ustream?
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http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
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Sorry, that was my best shot for what it=B9s worth unfortunately :O(

Rick


On 4/20/09 10:32 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not having any luck at the moment. Any other suggestions?
>=20
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com> wrote:
>> From my manual -
>> =B3The Parameters can be reset to the factory defaults. To do this, hold =A0=
down
>> the Parameter Button when you turn on the power to the Echoplex. Once th=
e
>> start up screen displays, you can release it. When the =A0Echoplex has ful=
ly
>> booted up, all of the Parameters will be reset.=B3
>>=20
>> Keep your fingers crossed :O)
>>=20
>> rick
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 4/20/09 9:27 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> My question is probably more dumb:
>>>=20
>>> How do you reset it?
>>>=20
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Might be a dumb question but did you try to reset it maybe??
>>>>=20
>>>> Rick
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On 4/20/09 8:21 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> So this is the situation:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> My echoplex digital pro wasn't giving out any sound, so I went ahead =
and
>>>>> switched wall outlets as well as moved it to a different location. No=
w
>>>>> when I turn it on, it is frozen ( most lights are on and won't budge =
or
>>>>> numbers will show up on screen and won't budge.. Loop name doesn't fl=
ash
>>>>> through the screen ). I've tried different outlets to fix the problem=
 but
>>>>> nothing will work. What do I do at this point? If nothing is resolved=
,
>>>>> will Gibson be able to fix it even though they stopped making them?
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
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<BR>
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<BR>
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Reset is the first thing to try, this is the next.

Reseat the chips.

Either you or a tech competent friend should
open up the edp.
There are a number of chips in sockets, sometimes the connection 
goes bad and the chip has to be wiggled about in the socket,
or removed and replaced.
One time it happened to me, and all I did was press
firmly down on each chip, and it worked ever since.

andy butler


Timothy Miller wrote:
> Not having any luck at the moment. Any other suggestions?
> 
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com 
> <mailto:bs@tanawana.com>> wrote:
> 
>      From my manual -
>     “The Parameters can be reset to the factory defaults. To do this,
>     hold  down the Parameter Button when you turn on the power to the
>     Echoplex. Once the start up screen displays, you can release it.
>     When the  Echoplex has fully booted up, all of the Parameters will
>     be reset.“
> 
>     Keep your fingers crossed :O)
> 
>     rick
> 
> 
>     On 4/20/09 9:27 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com
>     <mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         My question is probably more dumb:
> 
>         How do you reset it?
> 
>         On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com
>         <mailto:bs@tanawana.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
>             Might be a dumb question but did you try to reset it maybe??
> 
>             Rick
> 
> 
> 
>             On 4/20/09 8:21 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com
>             <mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>                 So this is the situation:
> 
>                 My echoplex digital pro wasn't giving out any sound, so
>                 I went ahead and switched wall outlets as well as moved
>                 it to a different location. Now when I turn it on, it is
>                 frozen ( most lights are on and won't budge or numbers
>                 will show up on screen and won't budge.. Loop name
>                 doesn't flash through the screen ). I've tried different
>                 outlets to fix the problem but nothing will work. What
>                 do I do at this point? If nothing is resolved, will
>                 Gibson be able to fix it even though they stopped making
>                 them?
> 
> 
> 
> 

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congrats Erdem ... being featured in WIRE with a large photograph and a very
favorable review of your piece on the Spectra CD ... very cool !!  -Michael

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no, but I took a look at http://musescore.org/   I had a little
trouble when I tried to change the default output device, but the
editor was nice.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> does anybody have used this open source software
> for music notation? looks interesting.
>
> --
> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>
>



-- 
-==-=-=-
Tony

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lol! ups sorry Andy i meant drum loops not canned food;-)))=0A=0A> ;-) cann=
ed loops tho'..........shakes head=A0 =0A>=0A=0A=0A      

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Yes Timmothy this happend to me once as well and i solved it  by just press=
ing down the chips and it worked fine=0Agood luck!=0ALuis=0A=0A=0Awww.myspa=
ce.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Tue, 4/21/09, andy butler <akbutler@tis=
cali.co.uk> wrote:=0A=0A> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> Su=
bject: Re: Gibson Echoplex not working=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
ght.com=0A> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 5:34 AM=0A> =0A> =0A> Reset is t=
he first thing to try, this is the next.=0A> =0A> Reseat the chips.=0A> =0A=
> Either you or a tech competent friend should=0A> open up the edp.=0A> The=
re are a number of chips in sockets, sometimes the=0A> connection goes bad =
and the chip has to be wiggled about in=0A> the socket,=0A> or removed and =
replaced.=0A> One time it happened to me, and all I did was press=0A> firml=
y down on each chip, and it worked ever since.=0A> =0A> andy butler=0A> =0A=
> =0A> Timothy Miller wrote:=0A> > Not having any luck at the moment. Any o=
ther=0A> suggestions?=0A> > =0A> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Rick Mi=
ller <bs@tanawana.com=0A> <mailto:bs@tanawana.com>>=0A> wrote:=0A> > =0A> >=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From my manual -=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=E2=80=
=9CThe Parameters can be reset=0A> to the factory defaults. To do this,=0A>=
 >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0hold=C2=A0 down the Parameter=0A> Button when yo=
u turn on the power to the=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Echoplex. Once the=
 start up=0A> screen displays, you can release it.=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0When the=C2=A0 Echoplex has=0A> fully booted up, all of the Parameter=
s will=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0be reset.=E2=80=9C=0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Keep your fingers crossed :O)=0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0rick=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On 4/20/09 9:2=
7 PM, "Timothy=0A> Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0<mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com>>=0A> wrote:=0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0My question is=0A> probably more dumb:=0A> > =0A>=
 >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0How do you reset=0A> it?=0A> > =0A=
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On Mon, Apr 20,=0A> 2009 at 8:23 =
PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0<mailto:bs@tanawana.com>>=0A> wrote:=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Might be a dumb question but did=
 you try=0A> to reset it maybe??=0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Rick=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On=0A> 4/20/09 8:21 PM, "Timothy Mil=
ler" <timmylmiller@gmail.com=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com>>=0A> wrote:=0A> > =0A> >=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0So t=
his is the situation:=0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0My echoplex digital pro wasn't giving out=0A>=
 any sound, so=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I went ahead and switched wall outlets as=0A> well as mov=
ed=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0it to a different location. Now when I=0A> turn it on, it is=0A> >=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0frozen =
( most lights are on and won't=0A> budge or numbers=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0will show up on scree=
n and won't budge..=0A> Loop name=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0doesn't flash through the screen ). I'v=
e=0A> tried different=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0outlets to fix the problem but nothing=0A> will work=
. What=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0do I do at this point? If nothing is=0A> resolved, will=0A> >=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Gibson =
be able to fix it even though they=0A> stopped making=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0them?=0A> > =0A> >=
 =0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A      

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Great link Claude thanx!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On =
Tue, 4/21/09, Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:=0A=0A> From: Claude Voit <=
c.voit@vtx.ch>=0A> Subject: Re: using the EDP midi synced as slave=0A> To: =
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 4:14=
 AM=0A> Please get that straight=0A> =0A> I dont understand why you would u=
se a _time_ reference=0A> where you need a Tempo and bar/beats/sub beats re=
ference.=0A> =0A> midi clock could be better and more stable if the bit rat=
e=0A> would be brought to the today bandwidth standards but its=0A> non sen=
se to use a standard (MTC) that is not intended for=0A> Tempo sync=0A> =0A>=
 Midi time clock is not Midi clock=0A> Midi time clock just transmits where=
 its at in the song in=0A> HH:MM:SS:FF (hour,minutes,seconds,frames) no tem=
po,bars,=0A> etc=0A> =0A> =0A> http://www.tweakheadz.com/sync_mmc_mtc_smpte=
.htm=0A> =0A> =0A> Claude=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Per Boysen a =E9crit :=0A=
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:56 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>=0A> wr=
ote:=0A> >> So is there a chance the EDP would respond to=0A> those functio=
ns if i used a sequencer > with better midi=0A> implementation?=0A> > =0A> =
> I guess "better midi implementation" means sending=0A> MTC. That's indeed=
=0A> > better than MIDI Clock but I'm not sure the EDP=0A> supports it. Sho=
uld't=0A> > you be able to record any need MIDI in the sequencer=0A> to hav=
e it sent=0A> > out into the EDP? Just noticed Andy's reply and=0A> hopeful=
ly Matthias=0A> > will chime in.=0A> > =0A> > Per=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> =
=0A> =0A=0A=0A      

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hey michael,

thanks a lot. have not seen the review myself. hope they have said nice =
things about me :)

in case you are interested, i used audiomulch and ovation acoustic =
guitar for that piece. the same setup used on my "altered realities" =
record.

thanks and best to you all.

Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23

"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20
allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard Marcus

"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."
Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:14 PM
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  congrats Erdem ... being featured in WIRE with a large photograph and =
a very
  favorable review of your piece on the Spectra CD ... very cool !!  =
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Please excuse the cross post.  I'm sure that some of you will be 
interested in this announcement.

Cheers,

Bill

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	announcing electro-music 2009
Date: 	Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:58:45 -0400
From: 	Greg Waltzer <egwaltzer@comcast.net>


We are pleased to announce electro-music 2009(TM), the world's premiere 
event for experimental electronic music.
This three day conference/music festival will be held at the Star Lake 
Camp in Bloomingdale, New Jersey, October 29 - 31, 2009. The program 
will include three full days of concerts, seminars, demonstrations, and 
jam sessions. Now in it's fifth year, we expect this to be the biggest 
and best electro-music event ever!

The scope of this festival is very broad, covering all aspects of 
electro-music: experimental electronic music, circuit bending, computer 
music, electro-jazz, modular synthesis, musique concrete, improvisation, 
algorithmic composition, multi-media, visual art and much more. The 
focus will be on participant involvement, sharing, community 
development, audience education, and great music.

You can actively participate in electro-music 2009 by performing music 
or visuals, giving a seminar, workshop, or demonstration, joining the 
jam sessions, or by volunteering to help with various tasks. Please 
visit the web site for instructions on how to participate:
http://event.electro-music.com

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i wasn't sure if you were aware of DT's koll tornado, i'm sure there's pics=
 of it online, his last profile in GP ('07?), had a nice gear blip about it=
:

"The Tornipulator-equipped Koll guitar has two additional 1/4" jacks,=E2=80=
=9D=0Adetails Torn, =E2=80=9Cthe first of which functions as an input for i=
ncoming=0Asignals. The round thing is a microphone capsule and element from=
 a=0AShaker dynamic microphone. The three buttons are very fast momentary=
=0Aswitches, which are positioned so that when my right thumb is resting=0A=
on the guitar directly above them, they can be =E2=80=9Cplayed=E2=80=9D rhy=
thmically=0Awith minimum effort.
=E2=80=9CThe upper switch toggles between the guitar=E2=80=99s=0Apickup in =
the up position, and the microphone=E2=80=99s output in the down=0Aposition=
. The middle switch toggles between the guitar=E2=80=99s pickup in the=0Aup=
 position, and 60-cycle hum when the switch is down. The lower switch=0Atog=
gles between the guitar=E2=80=99s pickup and =E2=80=98off=E2=80=99=E2=80=94=
meaning there=E2=80=99s no signal=0Apresent at the input jack=E2=80=94or wh=
atever signal is present at the guitar=E2=80=99s=0Ainput jack, such as an I=
ndian tabla drum machine.
=E2=80=9CThese are truly=0Atoggle switches or =E2=80=98interrupters.=E2=80=
=99 The microphone output, 60-cycle hum,=0Aand external input signals are n=
ever mixed with the guitar=0Asignal=E2=80=94though they all are output via =
the guitar=E2=80=99s standard 1/4"=0Aoutput. The Koll guitars also have con=
ductive copper pickguards that=0Aare wired to the second 1/4" output jack. =
The pickguards themselves=0Afunction as simple Theremin-like controllers, o=
utputting a voltage via=0Asecondary electronics, for further MIDI and volta=
ge control of both=0Aeffect processor and instruments.=E2=80=9D "

other options-a few months ago there was an article in GP about putting a m=
ini-KP kaoss pad on a guitar, and all the things you could do w/ it (techno=
-fun for all i think), but i'm not sure if it does volume/killswitch things=
 (it might?)....w/ it being small, it's a nice non permanent option to the =
few yrs ago when a couple of guitarists had the 1st gen. kaoss pad directly=
 installed in their guitars (was it Beck's guitarist at the time? can't rem=
ember)
oh well, other things to think of......
s---


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top" style=3D"font: inherit;">i wasn't sure if you were aware of DT's koll =
tornado, i'm sure there's pics of it online, his last profile in GP ('07?),=
 had a nice gear blip about it:<br><br>"The Tornipulator-equipped Koll guit=
ar has two additional 1/4" jacks,=E2=80=9D=0Adetails Torn, =E2=80=9Cthe fir=
st of which functions as an input for incoming=0Asignals. The round thing i=
s a microphone capsule and element from a=0AShaker dynamic microphone. The =
three buttons are very fast momentary=0Aswitches, which are positioned so t=
hat when my right thumb is resting=0Aon the guitar directly above them, the=
y can be =E2=80=9Cplayed=E2=80=9D rhythmically=0Awith minimum effort.<br>=
=E2=80=9CThe upper switch toggles between the guitar=E2=80=99s=0Apickup in =
the up position, and the microphone=E2=80=99s output in the down=0Aposition=
. The middle switch toggles between the guitar=E2=80=99s pickup in the=0Aup=
 position, and 60-cycle hum when the switch is down. The lower switch=0Atog=
gles between the guitar=E2=80=99s pickup and =E2=80=98off=E2=80=99=E2=80=94=
meaning there=E2=80=99s no signal=0Apresent at the input jack=E2=80=94or wh=
atever signal is present at the guitar=E2=80=99s=0Ainput jack, such as an I=
ndian tabla drum machine.<br>=E2=80=9CThese are truly=0Atoggle switches or =
=E2=80=98interrupters.=E2=80=99 The microphone output, 60-cycle hum,=0Aand =
external input signals are never mixed with the guitar=0Asignal=E2=80=94tho=
ugh they all are output via the guitar=E2=80=99s standard 1/4"=0Aoutput. Th=
e Koll guitars also have conductive copper pickguards that=0Aare wired to t=
he second 1/4" output jack. The pickguards themselves=0Afunction as simple =
Theremin-like controllers, outputting a voltage via=0Asecondary electronics=
, for further MIDI and voltage control of both=0Aeffect processor and instr=
uments.=E2=80=9D "<br><br>other options-a few months ago there was an artic=
le in GP about putting a mini-KP kaoss pad on a guitar, and all the things =
you could do w/ it (techno-fun for all i think), but i'm not sure if it doe=
s volume/killswitch things (it might?)....w/ it being small, it's a nice no=
n permanent option to the few yrs ago when a couple of guitarists had the 1=
st gen. kaoss pad directly installed in their guitars (was it Beck's guitar=
ist at the time? can't remember)<br>oh well, other things to think of......=
<br>s---<br><br><br></td></tr></table><br>=0A=0A      
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Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:
> hey michael,
>  
> thanks a lot. have not seen the review myself. hope they have said nice 
> things about me :)

Congrats Erdem,
the reviewer thought yours was the best piece on the album.
I don't remember exactly what he says but he
mentioned psychedelia and Dear Prudence by the Beatles in relation to it.
Helpfully he mentions that the piece was recorded in real time with fx.
 (was it? the Wire usually gets that sort of info wrong :-)

Generally he seemed not overly impressed by the album, 
even being critical of Keith Rowe.
Probably trying to be controversial, that's good as it
may create more of a buzz about the album, I wouldn't
even be surprised if they're deliberately doing that to
help promotion, as there's bound to be people writing
in to disagree.
It's certainly a big spread in a mag that normally gives
a couple of column inches to new releases.

andy
 




>  
> in case you are interested, i used audiomulch and ovation acoustic 
> guitar for that piece. the same setup used on my "altered realities" record.
>  
> thanks and best to you all.
>  
> Erdem Helvacioglu
> www.erdemhelvacioglu.com <http://www.erdemhelvacioglu.com>
> www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu <http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
> www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 
> <http://www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23>
>  
> "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and
> allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you."
> Blogcritics, Richard Marcus
>  
> "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."
> Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Michael Peters <mailto:mp@mpeters.de>
>     *To:* Loopers Delight <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:14 PM
>     *Subject:* Spectra
> 
>     congrats Erdem ... being featured in WIRE with a large photograph
>     and a very
>     favorable review of your piece on the Spectra CD ... very cool !! 
>     -Michael

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No, I wasn't aware of "The Tornipulator". Interesting to read that he
came to the same "playability ergonomics" solution that I have ended
up at. Many thanks for telling, Scott! I still have take on that last
step to build the thing ;-))

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i wasn't sure if you were aware of DT's koll tornado, i'm sure there's pi=
cs
> of it online, his last profile in GP ('07?), had a nice gear blip about i=
t:
>
> "The Tornipulator-equipped Koll guitar has two additional 1/4" jacks,=E2=
=80=9D
> details Torn, =E2=80=9Cthe first of which functions as an input for incom=
ing
> signals. The round thing is a microphone capsule and element from a Shake=
r
> dynamic microphone. The three buttons are very fast momentary switches,
> which are positioned so that when my right thumb is resting on the guitar
> directly above them, they can be =E2=80=9Cplayed=E2=80=9D rhythmically wi=
th minimum effort.
> =E2=80=9CThe upper switch toggles between the guitar=E2=80=99s pickup in =
the up position,
> and the microphone=E2=80=99s output in the down position. The middle swit=
ch toggles
> between the guitar=E2=80=99s pickup in the up position, and 60-cycle hum =
when the
> switch is down. The lower switch toggles between the guitar=E2=80=99s pic=
kup and
> =E2=80=98off=E2=80=99=E2=80=94meaning there=E2=80=99s no signal present a=
t the input jack=E2=80=94or whatever signal
> is present at the guitar=E2=80=99s input jack, such as an Indian tabla dr=
um machine.
> =E2=80=9CThese are truly toggle switches or =E2=80=98interrupters.=E2=80=
=99 The microphone output,
> 60-cycle hum, and external input signals are never mixed with the guitar
> signal=E2=80=94though they all are output via the guitar=E2=80=99s standa=
rd 1/4" output. The
> Koll guitars also have conductive copper pickguards that are wired to the
> second 1/4" output jack. The pickguards themselves function as simple
> Theremin-like controllers, outputting a voltage via secondary electronics=
,
> for further MIDI and voltage control of both effect processor and
> instruments.=E2=80=9D "
>
> other options-a few months ago there was an article in GP about putting a
> mini-KP kaoss pad on a guitar, and all the things you could do w/ it
> (techno-fun for all i think), but i'm not sure if it does volume/killswit=
ch
> things (it might?)....w/ it being small, it's a nice non permanent option=
 to
> the few yrs ago when a couple of guitarists had the 1st gen. kaoss pad
> directly installed in their guitars (was it Beck's guitarist at the time?
> can't remember)
> oh well, other things to think of......
> s---
>
>
>
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First of all, thanks for all that interest in that performance of mine
yesterday.

As a lot of people have been asking: there'll be another show tonight
same time (2000 UTC) - under this link:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-studio-sessions

Finally, Jeff - you've been asking about the gear setup. I talked
about it in the performance yesterday, but assume it got lost...

I'm using a Logitech QuickCam Sphere MP webcam and a Presonus Firebox
as an audio interface. Both the browser plugin and the (free) Adobe
FME software you can use for encoding lets you select any of your WDM
sources, so it's easy to combine any camera with any audio interface.

Sound-quality-wise, the setting the encoder uses for high-quality is
96kbps stereo, which is somewhat comparable to Ninjam.

See you tonight (or rather you'll see me...)

              Rainer


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http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs
http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs
http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/
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hahaha :) the first time that my music was compared with the beatles. is =
that good or bad? :)

well, i do not think that he has any clue about live electronics, =
electroacoustic music and such. well in any case, this will be a great =
pr for the album.

one note guys : i am working on a new electric guitar and electronics =
album which will be released soon. just hardware fx and analog pedals. =
hope you will enjoy that one.

best regards to you all.

Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23

"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20
allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard Marcus

"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."
Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: andy butler=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Spectra




  Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:
  > hey michael,
  > =20
  > thanks a lot. have not seen the review myself. hope they have said =
nice=20
  > things about me :)

  Congrats Erdem,
  the reviewer thought yours was the best piece on the album.
  I don't remember exactly what he says but he
  mentioned psychedelia and Dear Prudence by the Beatles in relation to =
it.
  Helpfully he mentions that the piece was recorded in real time with =
fx.
   (was it? the Wire usually gets that sort of info wrong :-)

  Generally he seemed not overly impressed by the album,=20
  even being critical of Keith Rowe.
  Probably trying to be controversial, that's good as it
  may create more of a buzz about the album, I wouldn't
  even be surprised if they're deliberately doing that to
  help promotion, as there's bound to be people writing
  in to disagree.
  It's certainly a big spread in a mag that normally gives
  a couple of column inches to new releases.

  andy
  =20




  > =20
  > in case you are interested, i used audiomulch and ovation acoustic=20
  > guitar for that piece. the same setup used on my "altered realities" =
record.
  > =20
  > thanks and best to you all.
  > =20
  > Erdem Helvacioglu
  > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com <http://www.erdemhelvacioglu.com>
  > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu =
<http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu>
  > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
  > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
  > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23=20
  > <http://www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23>
  > =20
  > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and
  > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you."
  > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus
  > =20
  > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."
  > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
  >=20
  >     ----- Original Message -----
  >     *From:* Michael Peters <mailto:mp@mpeters.de>
  >     *To:* Loopers Delight =
<mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
  >     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:14 PM
  >     *Subject:* Spectra
  >=20
  >     congrats Erdem ... being featured in WIRE with a large =
photograph
  >     and a very
  >     favorable review of your piece on the Spectra CD ... very cool =
!!=20
  >     -Michael

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<DIV>hahaha :) the first time that my music was compared with the =
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>well, i do not think that he has any clue about live electronics,=20
electroacoustic music and such. well in any case, this will be a great =
pr for=20
the album.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>one note guys : i am working on a new electric guitar and =
electronics album=20
which will be released soon. just hardware fx and analog pedals. hope =
you will=20
enjoy that one.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>best regards to you all.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erdem Helvacioglu<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.erdemhelvacioglu.com">www.erdemhelvacioglu.com</A><BR>=
<A=20
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vacioglu</A><BR>*=20
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *<BR>"Wounded Breath" album is out =
now on=20
Aucourant Records:<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&amp;cid=3D=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"wounded breath album will open you up =
to new=20
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you."<BR>Blogcritics, Richard Marcus</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR>Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:<BR>&gt; hey=20
  michael,<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; thanks a lot. have not seen the review =
myself.=20
  hope they have said nice <BR>&gt; things about me :)<BR><BR>Congrats=20
  Erdem,<BR>the reviewer thought yours was the best piece on the =
album.<BR>I=20
  don't remember exactly what he says but he<BR>mentioned psychedelia =
and Dear=20
  Prudence by the Beatles in relation to it.<BR>Helpfully he mentions =
that the=20
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usually=20
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Rowe.<BR>Probably=20
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buzz=20
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deliberately doing=20
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in case=20
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guitar for=20
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all.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
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&lt;<A=20
  =
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  <A=20
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  &lt;<A=20
  =
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  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *<BR>&gt; "Wounded Breath" album =
is out=20
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  =
href=3D"http://www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&amp;cid=3D=
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The second I saw Torn's Koll I was in love.  Such a sweet looking axe
and the features are so cool.  I'm buying a Tele body to slowly
prepare for a build and it will have a mic and interrupter circuit.  I
can see how having an additional input for other sounds might be cool
too.  I'm going to have the mic toggle into the pickup circuit so it
will exit through the same 1/4" output so I can just plug and play
into whatever.
-- 
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Does the M13 have longer delay times then the DL-4 ??

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thanks george!


On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:05 PM, George Ludwig wrote:

>
> Zoe Keating is playing at Old First Church, on Van Ness and  
> Sacramento, Friday April 24th, at 8pm:
> Tickets: http://www.oldfirstconcerts.org/performances/229/
>
> If anyone else is going and wants to meet up for drinks before  
> after, ping me!
>
> -George
>  http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
>
>
>
>

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also,  here's video of amanda palmer and i from saturday, doing the  
looped version of that muse song

the monitor guy had the stage monitors in front of me on for this  
song, and towards the end was cranking them so the stage was LOUD  
(normally we have in ears to avoid this issue). i started to feedback  
something fierce and couldn't do anything about it.  i had to cut the  
song and couldn't do my planned long layered looping outro...but it  
worked out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy9LpXQUmF0


On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:05 PM, George Ludwig wrote:

>
> Zoe Keating is playing at Old First Church, on Van Ness and  
> Sacramento, Friday April 24th, at 8pm:
> Tickets: http://www.oldfirstconcerts.org/performances/229/
>
> If anyone else is going and wants to meet up for drinks before  
> after, ping me!
>
> -George
>  http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
>
>
>
>

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Ricky Graham wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> Can I send you some music for your show? I've been getting your mails 
> for some time now and I keep meaning to ask you.
> Thanks and take care.
> Ricky 
Hi Ricky,

Sorry for the late reply but I'm 600 messages behind on this list.  
After the Marillion weekend in Montreal quickly followed by a visit to 
my sister later that same week, I got REALLY behind.

I'd be pleased to receive your music to preview for my radio shows 
(AM/FM and Galactic Travels).  I am loop-friendly in so far as the music 
must fit the format of my electronic/ambient music programs.  I've 
played the music of many LD members, most notably Dirk's music.  Please 
visit 
http://billfox.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-to-get-airplay-on-one-of-my-shows.html  
or http://tinyurl.com/5n7jnn which details all the info you need to send 
me music.

Anyone else who is interested, please feel free to send your music for 
possible inclusion on my shows.

Cheers,

Bill

Me:
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http://cdbaby.com/group/billfox
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Great bass playing Zoe! ;-)

---
King Never
free music @ music.kingnever.com

On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Zoe Keating wrote:

> also,  here's video of amanda palmer and i from saturday, doing the  
> looped version of that muse song
>
> the monitor guy had the stage monitors in front of me on for this  
> song, and towards the end was cranking them so the stage was LOUD  
> (normally we have in ears to avoid this issue). i started to  
> feedback something fierce and couldn't do anything about it.  i had  
> to cut the song and couldn't do my planned long layered looping  
> outro...but it worked out...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy9LpXQUmF0
>








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Aw, darnit, I will be at work this time, I hope you archive it for later 
viewing!
Thanks for the tips. I got a Logitech webcam and am all setup but am having 
problems with very warbly audio. I have tried every config I can think of. I 
tried guitar direct and with mic and it's the same problem. I don't think 
it's the camera because I am using a line in from my mixer like with Ninjam 
which works fine.
Probably user error I hope.

Jeff


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> First of all, thanks for all that interest in that performance of mine
> yesterday.
>
> As a lot of people have been asking: there'll be another show tonight
> same time (2000 UTC) - under this link:
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-studio-sessions
>
> Finally, Jeff - you've been asking about the gear setup. I talked
> about it in the performance yesterday, but assume it got lost...
>
> I'm using a Logitech QuickCam Sphere MP webcam and a Presonus Firebox
> as an audio interface. Both the browser plugin and the (free) Adobe
> FME software you can use for encoding lets you select any of your WDM
> sources, so it's easy to combine any camera with any audio interface.
>
> Sound-quality-wise, the setting the encoder uses for high-quality is
> 96kbps stereo, which is somewhat comparable to Ninjam.
>
> See you tonight (or rather you'll see me...)
>
>              Rainer
>
>
> http://moinlabs.de
> http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs
> http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs
> http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/
> http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329
>
> 

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Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:
> hahaha :) the first time that my music was compared with the beatles. is 
> that good or bad? :)

He seemed to be saying it was a good thing, that Dear Prudence 
was the peak of the Beatles output in terms of guitar sound,
and that you have somehow referred to it.


>  
> well, i do not think that he has any clue about live electronics, 
> electroacoustic music and such.

no, music journalist,
they don't have use for knowledge.

...but hey...he liked your track :-)


 >well in any case, this will be a great 
> pr for the album.
>  
> one note guys : i am working on a new electric guitar and electronics 
> album which will be released soon. just hardware fx and analog pedals. 
> hope you will enjoy that one.

excellent :-)
>  
> best regards to you all.
>  
> Erdem Helvacioglu

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 From the MoogMusic website:

"Join Garaj Mahal founder and Moog Guitar virtuoso Fareed Haque and  
Thereminist extraordinaire Kevin Kissinger for an evening of dynamic  
performances that highlight the incredible expressive powers of The  
Moog Guitar and the amazing synthesizer performance possibilities  
afforded by the Etherwave Plus and Moog synthesizers.

Monday, April 27th 2009 at 7:00 PM

This exciting event takes place at Sweetwater's state-of-the-art  
headquarters in Fort Wayne, Indiana."

I will do a short set with an interconnected Etherwave Plus Theremin  
and Little Phatty Stage II synthesizer.  My set will be looped and  
I'll use the Looperlative LP1 to accomplish the looping.

If you are in the Ft. Wayne area, this will be a great evening of  
music created with Moog instruments.  Hope to see you there!

-- Kevin

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Erdem that's wonderful congratulations sir...

Jim
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com



On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net>wrote:

>  hey michael,
>
> thanks a lot. have not seen the review myself. hope they have said nice
> things about me :)
>
> in case you are interested, i used audiomulch and ovation acoustic guitar
> for that piece. the same setup used on my "altered realities" record.
>
> thanks and best to you all.
>
> Erdem Helvacioglu
> www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
> www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
> www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23
>
> "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and
> allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you."
> Blogcritics, Richard Marcus
>
> "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."
> Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
> *To:* Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:14 PM
> *Subject:* Spectra
>
> congrats Erdem ... being featured in WIRE with a large photograph and a
> very
> favorable review of your piece on the Spectra CD ... very cool !!  -Michael
>
>


-- 
music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
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<div>Erdem that&#39;s wonderful congratulations sir...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Jim</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><=
/div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/">www.chinapaintingmusic.=
com</a></div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Erdem Helvacio=
glu <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:erdemhel@tnn.net">erdemhel@tnn.=
net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div>hey michael,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>thanks a lot. have not seen the review myself. hope they have said nic=
e things about me :)</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>in case you are interested, i used audiomulch and ovation acoustic gui=
tar for that piece. the same setup used on my &quot;altered realities&quot;=
 record.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>thanks and best to you all.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Erdem Helvacioglu<br><a href=3D"http://www.erdemhelvacioglu.com/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">www.erdemhelvacioglu.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace=
.com/erdemhelvacioglu" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu</=
a><br>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *<br>&quot;Wounded Breath&quot; album=
 is out now on Aucourant Records:<br><a href=3D"http://www.aucourantrecords=
.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&amp;cid=3D23" target=3D"_blank">www.aucourantr=
ecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&amp;cid=3D23</a></div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>&quot;wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and <br=
>allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you.&quot;<br>Blogcritics=
, Richard Marcus</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>&quot;wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period.&quot=
;<br>Massimo Ricci, touching extremes</div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5">
<blockquote style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5p=
x; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title=
=3D"mp@mpeters.de" href=3D"mailto:mp@mpeters.de" target=3D"_blank">Michael =
Peters</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loop=
ers-delight.com" href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=
=3D"_blank">Loopers Delight</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:14 P=
M</div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Spectra</div>
<div><br></div>congrats Erdem ... being featured in WIRE with a large photo=
graph and a very<br>favorable review of your piece on the Spectra CD ... ve=
ry cool !!=A0 -Michael<br></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div=
>
<br><br clear=3D"all">
<div></div><br>-- <br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusi=
c.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmus=
ic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com=
/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/china=
paintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelect=
ro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/j=
imgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networkin=
g...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>

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Totally ON topic. congrats Kevin!

Daryl Shawn
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> From the MoogMusic website:
>
> "Join Garaj Mahal founder and Moog Guitar virtuoso Fareed Haque and 
> Thereminist extraordinaire Kevin Kissinger for an evening of dynamic 
> performances that highlight the incredible expressive powers of The 
> Moog Guitar and the amazing synthesizer performance possibilities 
> afforded by the Etherwave Plus and Moog synthesizers.
>
> Monday, April 27th 2009 at 7:00 PM
>
> This exciting event takes place at Sweetwater's state-of-the-art 
> headquarters in Fort Wayne, Indiana."
>
> I will do a short set with an interconnected Etherwave Plus Theremin 
> and Little Phatty Stage II synthesizer.  My set will be looped and 
> I'll use the Looperlative LP1 to accomplish the looping.

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Audio not working on the Mac (v0.9) and crashing when shutting off, as
stated in their web.

:-(

2009/4/21, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com>:
> no, but I took a look at http://musescore.org/   I had a little
> trouble when I tried to change the default output device, but the
> editor was nice.
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> does anybody have used this open source software
>> for music notation? looks interesting.
>>
>> --
>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> -==-=-=-
> Tony
>
>


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i was talking about muse...

2009/4/21, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>:
> Audio not working on the Mac (v0.9) and crashing when shutting off, as
> stated in their web.
>
> :-(
>
> 2009/4/21, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com>:
>> no, but I took a look at http://musescore.org/   I had a little
>> trouble when I tried to change the default output device, but the
>> editor was nice.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> does anybody have used this open source software
>>> for music notation? looks interesting.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
>>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -==-=-=-
>> Tony
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>


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No, I wasn't aware of "The Tornipulator". Interesting to read that he
came to the same "playability ergonomics" solution that I have ended
up at. Many thanks for telling, Scott! I still have take on that last
step to build the thing ;-))

.....yea, boy, i hear that, i have lots of ideas, finding time to work on stuff, that's a chore,
and THEN FINISHING THEM!!!! whoa, yes, even harder!!!!!
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> Does the M13 have longer delay times then the DL-4 ??

I think it's the same, 2x 2.5 secs =>
http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/delays.shtml

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killer chart Sjaak!

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:

> From: Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>
> Subject: RE: M13 delays
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 1:13 PM
> > Does the M13 have longer delay
> times then the DL-4 ??
> 
> I think it's the same, 2x 2.5 secs =>
> http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/delays.shtml
> 
> --- 
> Sjaak
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ 
> http://euroloopfest.com/ 
> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
> 
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Thanks for watching - the quality is good as long as you sound check =20
first(get an online friend to check).  It seems to have a slight =20
problem with low end distortion thou.

Matt Stevens
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On 21 Apr 2009, at 09:28, Sjaak wrote:

> I like the concept of Ustream. So I've watched both Matt's and =20
> Marc's gigs last week, it was great! I normally have my macbook =20
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> case so I have been listening thru my laptop speakers. But what =20
> audio and video quality can we expect from Ustream?
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
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i use my normal audio interface - you set it in the options on  
ustream. I use the isight camera on my macbook.

If you need any help just let me know

Matt Stevens
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On 21 Apr 2009, at 12:40, Jeff Duke wrote:

> What i have been hearing especially from Matt is good quality audo.  
> I want to do this also but am unsure what audio/ video setup to  
> get. Matt, do you use the built in mic on a webcam for audio or  
> what? Any tips would help. I am as usual on a tight budget!  
> (yikes). Some webcams advertise quality sound. sony makes some and  
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> more coffee,
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> I like the concept of Ustream. So I've watched both Matt's and  
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> case so I have been listening thru my laptop speakers. But what  
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i use my normal audio interface - you set it in the options on ustream. =
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The M-13 has twice the loop time as the DL-4, 28 seconds, or 56 at half
speed. Maximum delay time for the delay models themselves are 2000 ms, but
you can use any delay model and as many as four delays simultaneous with the
looper with the capability of putting the loop pre or post the other delays.
I've blabbed extensively about this unit, so check the archives and I have a
few posts on You tube demoing it as well, this clip will lead you to the
others http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz47SBYcxgs&feature=related.
 Bill

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Does the M13 have longer delay times then the DL-4 ??

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just a note, I am up and running on Ustream, really easy so far after Matt 
helped me. Turns out the problem I had was in IE. I switched to Firefox and 
bingo! This is gonna be fun! I'll be testing for a bit then dive in. Thanks 
Matt, you da man!

Jeff
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab


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> What i have been hearing especially from Matt is good quality audo. I want 
> to do this also but am unsure what audio/ video setup to get. Matt, do you 
> use the built in mic on a webcam for audio or what? Any tips would help. I 
> am as usual on a tight budget! (yikes). Some webcams advertise quality 
> sound. sony makes some and Logitech but I just don't know. It would be 
> nice to use my regular line in for sound and the webcam for vid.
>
> more coffee,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
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>
>
> I like the concept of Ustream. So I've watched both Matt's and Marc's gigs 
> last week, it was great! I normally have my macbook connected to my "PA" 
> to have a godo audio quality but not in this case so I have been listening 
> thru my laptop speakers. But what audio and video quality can we expect 
> from Ustream?
> --- 
> Sjaak
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
>
>
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Attention.Friend


 Its my pleasure to inform  you that i have verify from the bank director r=
egarding the transfer of your fund and it was good news because the request=
ed fee was less expessive for you to  afford. your consignment containing y=
our fund($1=2C800.000.00)  i have deposited it with the BANK OF AFRICA so t=
hat your fund will be wired to your account immediately you contact the ban=
k director with your banking details.=20


However i went to BANK OF AFRICA to discuss this with the bank director as =
its has not been delivered to you However he told me that your fund can be =
transfered to you via a direct wire transfer(KTT) into your account.He told=
 me to instruct you to contact the bank to apply for a direct wire transfer=
 into your account to avoid loosing your fund due to delay.=20


Therefore you can contact the bank with below information=2C send to them y=
our banking information.


 BANK OF AFRICA OF BENIN REPUBLIC=20
20/22 HOSPITAL ROUTE
COTONOU BENIN REPUBLIC
EMAIL=3D bankofafricgroup@ubbi.com
 =20
Telephone=3D +22993123774 /+22997106643=20
BANK OF AFRICA FOREIGN OPERATION DIRECTOR.
DR.LARRY ANGELA =20


 Send an email to the bank with the above bank email and apply for your wir=
e transfer as i have informed the bank about you already.On receipt of your=
 fund into your account endeavour to inform me immediately you receive your=
 fund in your account. the director told me that the only fee you are to pa=
y is $195=2C00 usd for the opening of new international account here in the=
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Attention.Friend<BR>
<BR>&nbsp=3BIts my pleasure to inform&nbsp=3B you that i have verify from t=
he bank director regarding the transfer of your fund and it was good news b=
ecause the requested fee was less expessive for you to&nbsp=3B afford. your=
 consignment containing your fund($1=2C800.000.00)&nbsp=3B i have deposited=
 it with the BANK OF AFRICA so that your fund will be wired to your account=
 immediately you contact the bank director with your banking details. <BR>
<BR>However i went to BANK OF AFRICA to discuss this with the bank director=
 as its has not been delivered to you However he told me that your fund can=
 be transfered to you via a direct wire transfer(KTT) into your account.He =
told me to instruct you to contact the bank to apply for a direct wire tran=
sfer into your account to avoid loosing your fund due to delay. <BR>
<BR>Therefore you can contact the bank with below information=2C send to th=
em your banking information.<BR>
<BR>&nbsp=3BBANK OF AFRICA OF BENIN REPUBLIC <BR>20/22 HOSPITAL ROUTE<BR>CO=
TONOU BENIN REPUBLIC<BR>EMAIL=3D <A href=3D"mailto:bankofafricgroup@ubbi.co=
m">bankofafricgroup@ubbi.com</A><BR>&nbsp=3B <BR>Telephone=3D +22993123774 =
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GELA&nbsp=3B <BR>
<BR>&nbsp=3BSend an email to the bank with the above bank email and apply f=
or your wire transfer as i have informed the bank about you already.On rece=
ipt of your fund into your account endeavour to inform me immediately you r=
eceive your fund in your account. the director told me that the only fee yo=
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s. <BR>
<BR>Thanks Remain Bless<BR>SECRETARY JERRY MIKE<BR></body>
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Well I got the echoplex working. Thanks guys.
Now I got another problem: I'm having trouble getting the sound/notes to go
through correctly/accurately, if that makes any sense. Like, the notes don'=
t
come through clearly, and when I turn it up, it makes this loud bass thump.
I used to be able to get it to work, but now I'm having difficulty.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:57 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Yes Timmothy this happend to me once as well and i solved it  by just
> pressing down the chips and it worked fine
> good luck!
> Luis
>
>
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
> --- On Tue, 4/21/09, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex not working
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 5:34 AM
> >
> >
> > Reset is the first thing to try, this is the next.
> >
> > Reseat the chips.
> >
> > Either you or a tech competent friend should
> > open up the edp.
> > There are a number of chips in sockets, sometimes the
> > connection goes bad and the chip has to be wiggled about in
> > the socket,
> > or removed and replaced.
> > One time it happened to me, and all I did was press
> > firmly down on each chip, and it worked ever since.
> >
> > andy butler
> >
> >
> > Timothy Miller wrote:
> > > Not having any luck at the moment. Any other
> > suggestions?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com
> > <mailto:bs@tanawana.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >      From my manual -
> > >     =93The Parameters can be reset
> > to the factory defaults. To do this,
> > >     hold  down the Parameter
> > Button when you turn on the power to the
> > >     Echoplex. Once the start up
> > screen displays, you can release it.
> > >     When the  Echoplex has
> > fully booted up, all of the Parameters will
> > >     be reset.=93
> > >
> > >     Keep your fingers crossed :O)
> > >
> > >     rick
> > >
> > >
> > >     On 4/20/09 9:27 PM, "Timothy
> > Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com
> > >     <mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >         My question is
> > probably more dumb:
> > >
> > >         How do you reset
> > it?
> > >
> > >         On Mon, Apr 20,
> > 2009 at 8:23 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com
> > >         <mailto:bs@tanawana.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >    Might be a dumb question but did you try
> > to reset it maybe??
> > >
> > >
> >    Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >             On
> > 4/20/09 8:21 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com
> > >
> >    <mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >    So this is the situation:
> > >
> > >
> >    My echoplex digital pro wasn't giving out
> > any sound, so
> > >
> >    I went ahead and switched wall outlets as
> > well as moved
> > >
> >    it to a different location. Now when I
> > turn it on, it is
> > >
> >    frozen ( most lights are on and won't
> > budge or numbers
> > >
> >    will show up on screen and won't budge..
> > Loop name
> > >
> >    doesn't flash through the screen ). I've
> > tried different
> > >
> >    outlets to fix the problem but nothing
> > will work. What
> > >
> >    do I do at this point? If nothing is
> > resolved, will
> > >
> >    Gibson be able to fix it even though they
> > stopped making
> > >
> >    them?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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Well I got the echoplex working. Thanks guys.<div><br></div><div>Now I got =
another problem: I&#39;m having trouble getting the sound/notes to go throu=
gh correctly/accurately, if that makes any sense. Like, the notes don&#39;t=
 come through clearly, and when I turn it up, it makes this loud bass thump=
. I used to be able to get it to work, but now I&#39;m having difficulty.<b=
r>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:57 AM, L.Angulo <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com">labaloops@yahoo.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<br>
Yes Timmothy this happend to me once as well and i solved it =A0by just pre=
ssing down the chips and it worked fine<br>
good luck!<br>
Luis<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" target=3D"_blank">www.mysp=
ace.com/luisangulocom</a><br>
<br>
<br>
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, andy butler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.=
uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; From: andy butler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutl=
er@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex not working<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Del=
ight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
&gt; Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 5:34 AM<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Reset is the first thing to try, this is the next.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Reseat the chips.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Either you or a tech competent friend should<br>
&gt; open up the edp.<br>
&gt; There are a number of chips in sockets, sometimes the<br>
&gt; connection goes bad and the chip has to be wiggled about in<br>
&gt; the socket,<br>
&gt; or removed and replaced.<br>
&gt; One time it happened to me, and all I did was press<br>
&gt; firmly down on each chip, and it worked ever since.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; andy butler<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Timothy Miller wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Not having any luck at the moment. Any other<br>
&gt; suggestions?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Rick Miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:bs@tanawana.com">bs@tanawana.com</a><br>
&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bs@tanawana.com">bs@tanawana.com</a>&gt;&=
gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 From my manual -<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0=A0=A0=93The Parameters can be reset<br>
&gt; to the factory defaults. To do this,<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0=A0=A0hold=A0 down the Parameter<br>
&gt; Button when you turn on the power to the<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0=A0=A0Echoplex. Once the start up<br>
&gt; screen displays, you can release it.<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0=A0=A0When the=A0 Echoplex has<br>
&gt; fully booted up, all of the Parameters will<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0=A0=A0be reset.=93<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0=A0=A0Keep your fingers crossed :O)<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0=A0=A0rick<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0=A0=A0On 4/20/09 9:27 PM, &quot;Timothy<br>
&gt; Miller&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com">timmylmille=
r@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0=A0=A0&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com">=
timmylmiller@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0My question is<br>
&gt; probably more dumb:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0How do you reset<br>
&gt; it?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0On Mon, Apr 20,<br>
&gt; 2009 at 8:23 PM, Rick Miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bs@tanawana.com">bs=
@tanawana.com</a><br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bs@tanawana.com"=
>bs@tanawana.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0Might be a dumb question but did you try<br>
&gt; to reset it maybe??<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0Rick<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0On<br>
&gt; 4/20/09 8:21 PM, &quot;Timothy Miller&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timm=
ylmiller@gmail.com">timmylmiller@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com">timmylmi=
ller@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0So this is the situation:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0My echoplex digital pro wasn&#39;t giving out<br>
&gt; any sound, so<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0I went ahead and switched wall outlets as<br>
&gt; well as moved<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0it to a different location. Now when I<br>
&gt; turn it on, it is<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0frozen ( most lights are on and won&#39;t<br>
&gt; budge or numbers<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0will show up on screen and won&#39;t budge..<br>
&gt; Loop name<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0doesn&#39;t flash through the screen ). I&#39;ve<br>
&gt; tried different<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0outlets to fix the problem but nothing<br>
&gt; will work. What<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0do I do at this point? If nothing is<br>
&gt; resolved, will<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0Gibson be able to fix it even though they<br>
&gt; stopped making<br>
&gt; &gt;=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0them?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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dont know what that could be but you might want ot contact Andy

andy@straight-edge.co.uk

he might be able to help you further
good luck!
Luis


www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Timothy Miller <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Timothy Miller <timmylmiller@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex not working
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 8:32 PM
> Well I got the echoplex working.
> Thanks guys.
> Now I got another problem: I'm having
> trouble getting the sound/notes to go through
> correctly/accurately, if that makes any sense. Like, the
> notes don't come through clearly, and when I turn it up,
> it makes this loud bass thump. I used to be able to get it
> to work, but now I'm having difficulty.
>=20
>=20
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:57 AM,
> L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>=20
>=20
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> Yes Timmothy this happend to me once as well and i solved
> it =C2=A0by just pressing down the chips and it worked fine
>=20
> good luck!
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> Luis
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> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
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>=20
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> --- On Tue, 4/21/09, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>=20
> > Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex not working
>=20
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 5:34 AM
>=20
> >
>=20
> >
>=20
> > Reset is the first thing to try, this is the next.
>=20
> >
>=20
> > Reseat the chips.
>=20
> >
>=20
> > Either you or a tech competent friend should
>=20
> > open up the edp.
>=20
> > There are a number of chips in sockets, sometimes the
>=20
> > connection goes bad and the chip has to be wiggled
> about in
>=20
> > the socket,
>=20
> > or removed and replaced.
>=20
> > One time it happened to me, and all I did was press
>=20
> > firmly down on each chip, and it worked ever since.
>=20
> >
>=20
> > andy butler
>=20
> >
>=20
> >
>=20
> > Timothy Miller wrote:
>=20
> > > Not having any luck at the moment. Any other
>=20
> > suggestions?
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Rick Miller
> <bs@tanawana.com
>=20
> > <mailto:bs@tanawana.com>>
>=20
> > wrote:
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From my manual -
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=E2=80=9CThe Parameters can be reset
>=20
> > to the factory defaults. To do this,
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0hold=C2=A0 down the Parameter
>=20
> > Button when you turn on the power to the
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Echoplex. Once the start up
>=20
> > screen displays, you can release it.
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0When the=C2=A0 Echoplex has
>=20
> > fully booted up, all of the Parameters will
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0be reset.=E2=80=9C
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Keep your fingers crossed :O)
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0rick
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On 4/20/09 9:27 PM, "Timothy
>=20
> > Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com>>
>=20
> > wrote:
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0My question is
>=20
> > probably more dumb:
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0How do you reset
>=20
> > it?
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On Mon, Apr 20,
>=20
> > 2009 at 8:23 PM, Rick Miller <bs@tanawana.com
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<mailto:bs@tanawana.com>>
>=20
> > wrote:
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> > >
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Might be a dumb question but did you try
>=20
> > to reset it maybe??
>=20
> > >
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> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Rick
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On
>=20
> > 4/20/09 8:21 PM, "Timothy Miller" <timmylmiller@gmail.com
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<mailto:timmylmiller@gmail.com>>
>=20
> > wrote:
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0So this is the situation:
>=20
> > >
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0My echoplex digital pro wasn't giving out
>=20
> > any sound, so
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I went ahead and switched wall outlets as
>=20
> > well as moved
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0it to a different location. Now when I
>=20
> > turn it on, it is
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0frozen ( most lights are on and won't
>=20
> > budge or numbers
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0will show up on screen and won't budge..
>=20
> > Loop name
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0doesn't flash through the screen ).
> I've
>=20
> > tried different
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0outlets to fix the problem but nothing
>=20
> > will work. What
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0do I do at this point? If nothing is
>=20
> > resolved, will
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Gibson be able to fix it even though they
>=20
> > stopped making
>=20
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0them?
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
>=20
> > >
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> >
>=20
> >
>=20
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http://www.vimeo.com/album/84073

in HD this time - blimey, those things take a long time to process.

Parts 2 and 4 would be my highlights, for uptempo late electric era
Miles Davis and for laid back funk, respectively.


cheers,
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Thats great man - i will look forward to watching your stuff - would  
be great to see all you guys on this - Rick, Andy, everyone??
Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
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On 22 Apr 2009, at 03:36, Jeff Duke wrote:

> just a note, I am up and running on Ustream, really easy so far  
> after Matt helped me. Turns out the problem I had was in IE. I  
> switched to Firefox and bingo! This is gonna be fun! I'll be  
> testing for a bit then dive in. Thanks Matt, you da man!
>
> Jeff
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:40 AM
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>
>
>> What i have been hearing especially from Matt is good quality  
>> audo. I want to do this also but am unsure what audio/ video setup  
>> to get. Matt, do you use the built in mic on a webcam for audio or  
>> what? Any tips would help. I am as usual on a tight budget!  
>> (yikes). Some webcams advertise quality sound. sony makes some and  
>> Logitech but I just don't know. It would be nice to use my regular  
>> line in for sound and the webcam for vid.
>>
>> more coffee,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sjaak" <tcplugin@scarlet.be>
>> To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: Ustream again...
>>
>>
>> I like the concept of Ustream. So I've watched both Matt's and  
>> Marc's gigs last week, it was great! I normally have my macbook  
>> connected to my "PA" to have a godo audio quality but not in this  
>> case so I have been listening thru my laptop speakers. But what  
>> audio and video quality can we expect from Ustream?
>> --- Sjaak
>> http://euroloopfest.com/
>> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
>> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
>>
>>
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Good post about ustream and the uk jazz scene from Steve Lawson  
http://www.stevelawson.net/wordpress/2009/04/open-letter-to-the-uk- 
jazz-community-pt-iii-recordings-continued/#comment-5817

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com




On 22 Apr 2009, at 08:38, Matt Stevens wrote:

> Thats great man - i will look forward to watching your stuff -  
> would be great to see all you guys on this - Rick, Andy, everyone??
> Matt Stevens
> www.mattstevensguitar.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
>
>
>
> On 22 Apr 2009, at 03:36, Jeff Duke wrote:
>
>> just a note, I am up and running on Ustream, really easy so far  
>> after Matt helped me. Turns out the problem I had was in IE. I  
>> switched to Firefox and bingo! This is gonna be fun! I'll be  
>> testing for a bit then dive in. Thanks Matt, you da man!
>>
>> Jeff
>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke"  
>> <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: Ustream again...
>>
>>
>>> What i have been hearing especially from Matt is good quality  
>>> audo. I want to do this also but am unsure what audio/ video  
>>> setup to get. Matt, do you use the built in mic on a webcam for  
>>> audio or what? Any tips would help. I am as usual on a tight  
>>> budget! (yikes). Some webcams advertise quality sound. sony makes  
>>> some and Logitech but I just don't know. It would be nice to use  
>>> my regular line in for sound and the webcam for vid.
>>>
>>> more coffee,
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sjaak" <tcplugin@scarlet.be>
>>> To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:28 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Ustream again...
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the concept of Ustream. So I've watched both Matt's and  
>>> Marc's gigs last week, it was great! I normally have my macbook  
>>> connected to my "PA" to have a godo audio quality but not in this  
>>> case so I have been listening thru my laptop speakers. But what  
>>> audio and video quality can we expect from Ustream?
>>> --- Sjaak
>>> http://euroloopfest.com/
>>> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw
>>>
>>>
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internet.com</div><div><br></div></span><br =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 22 Apr 2009, =
at 08:38, Matt Stevens wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"> Thats =
great man - i will look forward to watching your stuff - would be great =
to see all you guys on this - Rick, Andy, everyone??<br><div> <span =
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-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Matt =
Stevens</div><div>www.mattstevensguitar.com</div><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br =
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at 03:36, Jeff Duke wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">just a note, I am up and running on Ustream, really =
easy so far after Matt helped me. Turns out the problem I had was in IE. =
I switched to Firefox and bingo! This is gonna be fun! I'll be testing =
for a bit then dive in. Thanks Matt, you da man!</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">Jeff</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a =
href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab">http://www.ustream.tv/chan=
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margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
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margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">----- =
Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a>></div><div=
 style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">To: &lt;<a =
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s-delight.com</a>></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Sent: Tuesday, April 21, =
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margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: Re: Ustream =
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type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">What i have been hearing =
especially from Matt is good quality audo. I want to do this also but am =
unsure what audio/ video setup to get. Matt, do you use the built in mic =
on a webcam for audio or what? Any tips would help. I am as usual on a =
tight budget! (yikes). Some webcams advertise quality sound. sony makes =
some and Logitech but I just don't know. It would be nice to use my =
regular line in for sound and the webcam for vid.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
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style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Jeff</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">----- Original Message ----- From: "Sjaak" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@scarlet.be">tcplugin@scarlet.be</a>></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">To: "Loopers-Delight" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a>></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Sent: Tuesday, April 21, =
2009 4:28 AM</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: Re: Ustream =
again...</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I like =
the concept of Ustream. So I've watched both Matt's and Marc's gigs last =
week, it was great! I normally have my macbook connected to my "PA" to =
have a godo audio quality but not in this case so I have been listening =
thru my laptop speakers. But what audio and video quality can we expect =
from Ustream?</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--- Sjaak</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
> http://www.vimeo.com/album/84073

Awesome!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Hi Mike,
I checked both options: RC 50 as slave and master.
I´m using a Roland MC 303 Groove Box and it worked
well in both ways.
If you wanna use the RC 50 as slave, you need a Drum-machine with Midi-Out.
Connect the cable Midi out (Dr mach.) and Midi In (RC 50). Probably you know
this.
Swith the in the RC 50 "System: Midi Sync to: Auto"
Switch your Dr mach. to Sync "out" and "internal".
IMPORTANT: You have to start your dr mach from the
1st measure, not in the middle.
If I handle it this way the RC 50 will be synced to the
Groove box. No problems.
Maybe it works better if you turn on the internal drums of the RC 50
(even if put on a very low volume, if you don´t wanna hear it).
Maybe this could help you.
Best,
Christo
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota

----- Original Message -----
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> Thanks for the input so far on this issue. I  have a boss  dr-3 which I've
> been trying to sync with midi to my rc-50, gut no luck so far having the
> rc-50 as master to the dr-3. it will sync on starts and stops but
otherwise
> will not sync up with any loops I've been creating. I have them both set
to
> 'auto' for the tx and rx settings. The dr-3 only has midi in capacity. I'm
> not sure if this problem is due to the limitations of the rc-50 or not
> having made the appropriate settings on it. Any further suggestions
> welcomed.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris@christojota.de [mailto:chris@christojota.de]
> Sent: April 20, 2009 6:16 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine
>
> Yes, right. I never had problems running the RC 50 as master for my Groove
> Box. Never used it as slave, I guess. But I will check out and let you
know
> soon.
> Best,
> Christo
> www.christojota.de
> www.myspace.com/christojota
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dwilbert@rhein-zeitung.de>
> To: <mkilburn@eastlink.ca>
> Cc: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:30 PM
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> >
> > Hello Mike,
> > I think it would be better to use the RC50 as midi master (if possible),
> as it seems to have difficulties in following sync as a midi slave.
> >
> > Although I haven't tried to do such thing yet, I use it as midi master
for
> my TC M300 - in order to sync the delay of the M300 with the the tempo
> button of my RC50. This works well.
> >
> > Dirk
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca> schrieb:
> >
> > >
> > > I'm planning on using the boss rc-50 and midi sync it as slave to a
boss
> > > dr-657 drum manchine. Anyone had an opportunity to use these together
> and
> > > how successful have you been if so?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any input on this.
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
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Just guitar and pedals. That=B4s it!
After doing 2 albums with multi track recordings, the usual track on =
track thing,=20
I was a bit fed up with this way of recording.
I=B4m excited always when it=B4s new but loose interest in
the recording situation while puzzling together all the tracks.
So I recorded some songs just in stereo, no overdubs,
which was more fun and spontaneous. A few hours work and the full
album was ready: "Guitar Looping # 1"
You can listen to 2 pieces (a cover version of Kraftwerk=B4s AUTOBAHN =
and BAKTU) on=20
www.myspace.com/christojota
Nice Day!
Christo
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Erdem Helvacioglu=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Spectra


  hahaha :) the first time that my music was compared with the beatles. =
is that good or bad? :)

  well, i do not think that he has any clue about live electronics, =
electroacoustic music and such. well in any case, this will be a great =
pr for the album.

  one note guys : i am working on a new electric guitar and electronics =
album which will be released soon. just hardware fx and analog pedals. =
hope you will enjoy that one.

  best regards to you all.

  Erdem Helvacioglu
  www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
  www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
  "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
  www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23

  "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20
  allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you."
  Blogcritics, Richard Marcus

  "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."
  Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: andy butler=20
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
    Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:10 PM
    Subject: Re: Spectra




    Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:
    > hey michael,
    > =20
    > thanks a lot. have not seen the review myself. hope they have said =
nice=20
    > things about me :)

    Congrats Erdem,
    the reviewer thought yours was the best piece on the album.
    I don't remember exactly what he says but he
    mentioned psychedelia and Dear Prudence by the Beatles in relation =
to it.
    Helpfully he mentions that the piece was recorded in real time with =
fx.
     (was it? the Wire usually gets that sort of info wrong :-)

    Generally he seemed not overly impressed by the album,=20
    even being critical of Keith Rowe.
    Probably trying to be controversial, that's good as it
    may create more of a buzz about the album, I wouldn't
    even be surprised if they're deliberately doing that to
    help promotion, as there's bound to be people writing
    in to disagree.
    It's certainly a big spread in a mag that normally gives
    a couple of column inches to new releases.

    andy
    =20




    > =20
    > in case you are interested, i used audiomulch and ovation acoustic =

    > guitar for that piece. the same setup used on my "altered =
realities" record.
    > =20
    > thanks and best to you all.
    > =20
    > Erdem Helvacioglu
    > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com <http://www.erdemhelvacioglu.com>
    > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu =
<http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu>
    > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
    > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23=20
    > <http://www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23>
    > =20
    > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and
    > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you."
    > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus
    > =20
    > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period."
    > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes
    >=20
    >     ----- Original Message -----
    >     *From:* Michael Peters <mailto:mp@mpeters.de>
    >     *To:* Loopers Delight =
<mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    >     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:14 PM
    >     *Subject:* Spectra
    >=20
    >     congrats Erdem ... being featured in WIRE with a large =
photograph
    >     and a very
    >     favorable review of your piece on the Spectra CD ... very cool =
!!=20
    >     -Michael


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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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pr for=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>one note guys : i am working on a new electric guitar and =
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 21, 2009 =
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    PM</DIV>
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    <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR>Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:<BR>&gt; hey=20
    michael,<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; thanks a lot. have not seen the =
review=20
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:)<BR><BR>Congrats=20
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album.<BR>I=20
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and Dear=20
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that the=20
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usually=20
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overly=20
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Rowe.<BR>Probably=20
    trying to be controversial, that's good as it<BR>may create more of =
a buzz=20
    about the album, I wouldn't<BR>even be surprised if they're =
deliberately=20
    doing that to<BR>help promotion, as there's bound to be people =
writing<BR>in=20
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    gives<BR>a couple of column inches to new=20
    releases.<BR><BR>andy<BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
<BR>&gt; in=20
    case you are interested, i used audiomulch and ovation acoustic =
<BR>&gt;=20
    guitar for that piece. the same setup used on my "altered realities" =

    record.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; thanks and best to you =
all.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
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    &lt;<A=20
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rdemhelvacioglu</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *<BR>&gt; "Wounded Breath" =
album is=20
    out now on Aucourant Records:<BR>&gt; <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&amp;cid=3D=
23">www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&amp;cid=3D23</A>=20
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23">http://www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&amp;cid=3D23<=
/A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
    <BR>&gt; "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences=20
    and<BR>&gt; allow you to explore worlds previously closed to =
you."<BR>&gt;=20
    Blogcritics, Richard Marcus<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; "wounded breath =
is an=20
    outstanding acousmatic record, period."<BR>&gt; Massimo Ricci, =
touching=20
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Message=20
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    photograph<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and a=20
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on the=20
    Spectra CD ... very cool !! <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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Ian Petersen wrote:
> I know the Earvana nut is all wrong *in theory*. But in practice - on 
> real guitars - it works just fine! 
> Just moving a standard nut a millimetre or so closer to the first fret 
> achieves much the same effect. Many high-end (esp. acoustic) guitar 
> makers use that trick.
> 
> Ian

Yup!  Actually, a well known luthier trick is installing a small piece 
of hard wood or bone under the G and b strings right in front of the nut 
to achieve kindof the same as using a compensated nut.
All that's needed is say half a millimetre on the b string and about one 
milimetre on the G string, depending on nut height and string gauges.
It'll make those two strings not sound sharp in certain chords.


-- 
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van Sinn

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Daryl Shawn wrote:
> There's a whole school of thought and reason behind installing a 
> compensated nut. There is debate as to how much it helps, but it's 
> certainly popular and some peeps swear by it. Have been considering 
> getting the Buzz Feiten or similar system on my nylon-string to help 
> intonation.
> 
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com

This may have more importance on a classical guitar vs a steel stringer, 
as the classical with nylon (composite) strings usually have a somewhat 
higher action, meaning that when pressed, the strings simply gets longer 
  and more tensioned, so the pitch change is more outspoken.

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van Sinn wrote:
> Daryl Shawn wrote:
>> There's a whole school of thought and reason behind installing a 
>> compensated nut. There is debate as to how much it helps, but it's 
> 
> This may have more importance on a classical guitar vs a steel stringer, 
> as the classical with nylon (composite) strings usually have a somewhat 
> higher action, meaning that when pressed, the strings simply gets longer 
>  and more tensioned, so the pitch change is more outspoken.
> 

As your dedicated fish dropper, I checked it out.
My electrics don't have the intonation problem that
the compensated nut is reckoned to fix.
Neither does my nylon acoustic.

What all my guitars tend to have, however, is an obsessively
set up nut height :-)
Also, I always play with the fingers right up to the fret, pretty
much in the same position as if it were a fretless instrument, that
way I don't add extra string tension.


Conclusion: you're better off just getting the existing nut set up properly/obsessively.

andy butler



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are you sure...

for everyone else it drifts out of sync over time when syncing to midi =20=

in

check again

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On Apr 22, 2009, at 5:31 AM, chris@christojota.de wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> I checked both options: RC 50 as slave and master.
> I=B4m using a Roland MC 303 Groove Box and it worked
> well in both ways.
> If you wanna use the RC 50 as slave, you need a Drum-machine with =20
> Midi-Out.
> Connect the cable Midi out (Dr mach.) and Midi In (RC 50). Probably =20=

> you know
> this.
> Swith the in the RC 50 "System: Midi Sync to: Auto"
> Switch your Dr mach. to Sync "out" and "internal".
> IMPORTANT: You have to start your dr mach from the
> 1st measure, not in the middle.
> If I handle it this way the RC 50 will be synced to the
> Groove box. No problems.
> Maybe it works better if you turn on the internal drums of the RC 50
> (even if put on a very low volume, if you don=B4t wanna hear it).
> Maybe this could help you.
> Best,
> Christo
> www.christojota.de
> www.myspace.com/christojota





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hehe..thank you Fishdropper Andy. My guitar is just an off-the-shelf 
model I've never had any work done to. I'll take it on your 
recommendation to have the nut checked out by a good tech, perhaps that 
will fix all things. At this point the intonation drives me a bit crazy.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

>>
>
> As your dedicated fish dropper, I checked it out.
> My electrics don't have the intonation problem that
> the compensated nut is reckoned to fix.
> Neither does my nylon acoustic.
>
> What all my guitars tend to have, however, is an obsessively
> set up nut height :-)
> Also, I always play with the fingers right up to the fret, pretty
> much in the same position as if it were a fretless instrument, that
> way I don't add extra string tension.
>
>
> Conclusion: you're better off just getting the existing nut set up 
> properly/obsessively.
>
> andy butler

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Hi everyone,

as some of you (including me) have already used the service of ustream
as a host and others have shown interest to do so in the future, I'd
like to suggest sharing experiences here and allow for Q&A - and I'll
be the first to do so. So please Matt, Marc and any others, do follow
suit.

Note that everything I write here is based on my rather limited
experience (so far, I have followed one show - by Matt Stevens, and
done two myself), so if there's anything unclear or plainly wrong -
please mention that as well!

1. NOMENCLATURE:
----------------
Followingly, I'll use the term "host" for those who author a stream.
Those who watch it will be "listeners". The thing that brings the
stream from the host to the listeners is the "video service".

2. ABOUT USTREAM:
-----------------
To my knowledge, ustream (ustream.tv) is the first and so far only
video service which offers this service ad-financed, and consequently
free of charge both for hosts and listeners. It thus differs from
other possibilities available in the past, which offered server
space/time paid for by the host, or video services paid for by the
listeners, with royalities paid to the host (e.g. ligx.de, formerly
onlinemusicstar.de).

3. SERVICE DETAILS - HOW IT WORKS:
----------------------------------
The basic structure at ustream is the show. A show is basically
something with a title, perhaps a background and header image, tags, a
descriptive text, a video archive and a webpage (with chat and rating
features) on ustream. If you host something, you basically connect to
your show, and listeners go to that show's webpage.
Generally, listening to a show and chatting does not require
registration, hosting and rating shows does (this is similar to e.g.
youtube).
Hosts can restrict access to shows or functions like chat, either to
registered users in general, specific registered ustream users or by
password.

Shows can be recorded and are thus available in the archive on that show's =
page.

Widgets are available both for the show's stream and for the chat
functionality (see e.g. moinlabs.de for an example of its use).

Ustream is registered with openid and has interfaces to twitter (to
automatically send tweets to announce your show), facebook (don't know
how this works, I'm not a facebook user - anyone?) and youtube (you
can automatically upload your recorded shows to youtube - which is
awesome!).

The technological basis is Adobe Flash Media. That means to listen to
the shows you need a flash player, to host shows you need an encoder
(either a browser plugin or the free standalone version - see below).

4. THE THING FROM A HOST'S PERSPECTIVE:
---------------------------------------
There's the possibility to use either standard video quality or high
video quality. The approach for doing a show differs slightly in both
cases, so I'll describe them independently.

a) standard video quality
Simple. You click on "start broadcast" in your show's administration
page, a window pops up asking to access your camera/audio interface
and you can click on start and if wanted record. Any (I think
WDM-driven) audio and video device can be chosen as input sources, so
anyhting from your cheapo laptop webcam and builtin mike to
professional video camera and audio interface should work. (nb: some
pro audio interfaces sometimes only install ASIO drivers by default,
and the same may be true for pro video cameras. So you may need to
specifically install those drivers). There are some adjustments you
can make (most specifically, I believe you can turn up audio quality
up to 96kbps even in standard quality mode), but as said before, I
don't have that much experience with the standard video quality
approach.
I don't know which browser plugin or other "thing" is used for that -
obviously, it was already installed on my system.

b) high video quality
For using high video quality, there are two approaches possible. One
is to use a specific browser plugin (only available with Windows
machines and I believe on Firefox), the other is to use the (free)
Adobe Flas Media Encoder (which may or may not only work with
Windows/Firefox - I believe so but am not sure).
Number one basically works like with standard video quality, only you
need to install that specific plugin first.
Number two works a little more cumbersome: download a XML file, load
that into FME, setup remaining stuff in FME (e.g. camera and audio
source), start transmission in FME, open "broadcast" window in your
browser and start broadcast.

The obvious advante of using FME is that you can make your settings in
more detail (e.g. sampling frequency, audio bit rate, mono/stereo,
screen size etc.).

5. FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE:
-------------------------
First, let me point out that my experience here is limited: both of my
sessions so far were done on a somewhat meager computer (2GHz
PentiumIV running XP), and in every case I tried using high quality
streaming (see below). In that configuration, the constant system load
on the computer while streaming is in the 70-80% range. Now people who
have worked with things like Ninjam know that in some cases it is not
a prudent idea to have too high constant system loads, because spikes
in system load may then throw off the communication. See more on that
in the section on "open questions".

First tests with the standard quality setting looked promising, and
setup is really easy: enter the info for your show, click on the
broadcast button, select and allow access to video and audio source
and click "start broadcast" (and "record" if you want to) and off you
go.

In my two test runs so far, I encountered several problems, such as:
* when using the high quality plugin, the browser (Firefox) would
crash in rather short time intervals. Resetup was easy, however.

* The combination of ustream with the FME standalone did not always
work. "Cannot connect to server" from FME or the browser-based part
not detecting the transmission are rather common.
Loss of transmission was far more uncommon with FME than with the
browser plugin, but then again, starting again was more complicated
due to the various issues mentioned above.

(for this topic, I can fairly easily sort out "lack of upstream
bandwidth" as a problem source).

* Sometimes, within the ustream website, odd behaviour occured. Both
"This is not you show" when clicking on the "broadcast" button (being
logged in and going to it via "my shows" and all) and getting a "404
not found" when going to a show's page did appear several times.

* The Twitter interface did not seem to work - meaning I got the info
it had sent the message to twitter, but it didn't appear there.

* For some reason, I was not able to engage the record show
functionality when using ustream with the standalone FME.

Audio and video quality: I can only report on Matt's session here,
because obviously I didn't look at my own sessions that much. Both
audio and video appeared very acceptable in Matt's case. In those
circumstances when I would send a loop into the transmission and check
on another computer, the same applied (again, using the 96kbps quality
setting for audio).


6. OPEN QUESTIONS:
------------------
a) stability: transmission breaking down
Can any other user comment on the stability issues, also describing
their setup (OS, computer type, normal or high quality, FME or plugin
etc.)? Have you done anything to effectively combat any stability
issues you might have had at first?

b) stability: UI, not stream-related
As I mentioned, besides the transmission breakdown from time to time
there were occasional issues as "this is not your show" or "404 not
found" messages. Has anyone else experienced this?

c) audio quality
Jeff already commented on "warbled audio" before. Jeff, how did you
adjust the audio quality slider in your broadcast window? I seem to
remember that its default value is close to minimum, with the maximum
setting in the plugin being 96kbps, so that may have been the reason.
I also seem to remember (as Jeff does) that shows by other hosts (e.g.
Matt) were of acceptable audio quality. Matt, Marc, can you comment on
your settings?

d) co-hosts
There is the possibility to define several co-hosts for your show. How
does that work? Can they host simultaneously (like we could do a
visual kybermusik), or do they all have access to the same show at
different times (so we could set up an "odd looping" show, and we
could play concerts at different times on the same show)? Or something
in between..."ok, it's getting rather boring with Rainer here, but I
just hear that there's some interesting development in Orlando, so I'm
passing to my colleague who is watching Jeff's performance...". Need
to check that out.

7. NEXT STEPS:
--------------
I'll try using another computer to see if that sorts out those stability is=
sues.
This will include transmission stability, ui issues and anything else
I have reported about those topics.

Check twitter interface

Check co-host functionality

Play with different quality settings - see if this is reflected in
recorded videos

And most importantly: do another session (this time with my
trombone-based "R=FCbezahl" setup), most probably this Saturday.


Looking forward to your comments and experiences!

Best,

       Rainer

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thanks for everyone's input on this. I'm waiting on delivery of the Boss
DR647 and i'm still messing with the Dr-3 for now with it's limited midi in
only option thereby rendering it as slave to the RC-50. I can sync them by
pre-recording phrases on the RC-50 and having it trigger start/stop for the
Dr-3 -seems to stay in sync this way, but requires matching original tempos
for loop each pre-recorded loop phrases with the Dr-3. And of course, to
make stage performance go smoothly, as we all know, the less fidgeting with
settings on the fly, the better and reduces chance of the oooops experience!

thanks again and i'll appreciate the help on this.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: chris@christojota.de [mailto:chris@christojota.de]
Sent: April 22, 2009 6:31 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine


Hi Mike,
I checked both options: RC 50 as slave and master.
I´m using a Roland MC 303 Groove Box and it worked
well in both ways.
If you wanna use the RC 50 as slave, you need a Drum-machine with Midi-Out.
Connect the cable Midi out (Dr mach.) and Midi In (RC 50). Probably you know
this.
Swith the in the RC 50 "System: Midi Sync to: Auto"
Switch your Dr mach. to Sync "out" and "internal".
IMPORTANT: You have to start your dr mach from the
1st measure, not in the middle.
If I handle it this way the RC 50 will be synced to the
Groove box. No problems.
Maybe it works better if you turn on the internal drums of the RC 50
(even if put on a very low volume, if you don´t wanna hear it).
Maybe this could help you.
Best,
Christo
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota

----- Original Message -----
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> Thanks for the input so far on this issue. I  have a boss  dr-3 which I've
> been trying to sync with midi to my rc-50, gut no luck so far having the
> rc-50 as master to the dr-3. it will sync on starts and stops but
otherwise
> will not sync up with any loops I've been creating. I have them both set
to
> 'auto' for the tx and rx settings. The dr-3 only has midi in capacity. I'm
> not sure if this problem is due to the limitations of the rc-50 or not
> having made the appropriate settings on it. Any further suggestions
> welcomed.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris@christojota.de [mailto:chris@christojota.de]
> Sent: April 20, 2009 6:16 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: using an RC-50 with a Boss DR-657 drum machine
>
> Yes, right. I never had problems running the RC 50 as master for my Groove
> Box. Never used it as slave, I guess. But I will check out and let you
know
> soon.
> Best,
> Christo
> www.christojota.de
> www.myspace.com/christojota
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
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> >
> > Hello Mike,
> > I think it would be better to use the RC50 as midi master (if possible),
> as it seems to have difficulties in following sync as a midi slave.
> >
> > Although I haven't tried to do such thing yet, I use it as midi master
for
> my TC M300 - in order to sync the delay of the M300 with the the tempo
> button of my RC50. This works well.
> >
> > Dirk
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca> schrieb:
> >
> > >
> > > I'm planning on using the boss rc-50 and midi sync it as slave to a
boss
> > > dr-657 drum manchine. Anyone had an opportunity to use these together
> and
> > > how successful have you been if so?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any input on this.
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
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great post Rainer, I don't have much to add. My "warbled" audio problem 
disappeared when Matt suggested using Firefox. I now have good audio as per 
a single test with one friend in another city watching. Audio set up just 
like Ninjam and set to highest quality on the Ustream control panel. This 
stereo stuff sounds cool I will check into that.

I am using a Logitech Pro 9000 webcam for the video part. I get good quality 
picture but low frame rate or choppy video. I have tried various settings 
and have gotten a little better by turning off all my webcams internal 
software apps ; auto this and thats. I tried reducing video quality from 
Ustream but still kind of choppy and the pixelated. I should say that my 
machine is a P4 3.6 ghz 1 gig ram. I have a 3 mb down and 650 up connection. 
I am not sure but may be a tad underpowered for this cam. i may exchange for 
a more basic model. undecided as yet.
I'll check out your widget.

I have not tried the high quality or recording yet. I will check out the 
other vid options you mentioned.
I will give it a real go this weekend. I'll post times as far in advance as 
possible and update just before.

So you didn't record Rainer? Too bad, I hope to catch you next time.

Oh and this multi participant stuff sounds cool. Keep us informed of all 
your doing, I am a little slow on the uptake about this new fangled stuff 
but I get there.


thanks for all,

Jeff


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Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Ustream - summary of first experiences


Hi everyone,

as some of you (including me) have already used the service of ustream
as a host and others have shown interest to do so in the future, I'd
like to suggest sharing experiences here and allow for Q&A - and I'll
be the first to do so. So please Matt, Marc and any others, do follow
suit.

Note that everything I write here is based on my rather limited
experience (so far, I have followed one show - by Matt Stevens, and
done two myself), so if there's anything unclear or plainly wrong -
please mention that as well!

1. NOMENCLATURE:
----------------
Followingly, I'll use the term "host" for those who author a stream.
Those who watch it will be "listeners". The thing that brings the
stream from the host to the listeners is the "video service".

2. ABOUT USTREAM:
-----------------
To my knowledge, ustream (ustream.tv) is the first and so far only
video service which offers this service ad-financed, and consequently
free of charge both for hosts and listeners. It thus differs from
other possibilities available in the past, which offered server
space/time paid for by the host, or video services paid for by the
listeners, with royalities paid to the host (e.g. ligx.de, formerly
onlinemusicstar.de).

3. SERVICE DETAILS - HOW IT WORKS:
----------------------------------
The basic structure at ustream is the show. A show is basically
something with a title, perhaps a background and header image, tags, a
descriptive text, a video archive and a webpage (with chat and rating
features) on ustream. If you host something, you basically connect to
your show, and listeners go to that show's webpage.
Generally, listening to a show and chatting does not require
registration, hosting and rating shows does (this is similar to e.g.
youtube).
Hosts can restrict access to shows or functions like chat, either to
registered users in general, specific registered ustream users or by
password.

Shows can be recorded and are thus available in the archive on that show's 
page.

Widgets are available both for the show's stream and for the chat
functionality (see e.g. moinlabs.de for an example of its use).

Ustream is registered with openid and has interfaces to twitter (to
automatically send tweets to announce your show), facebook (don't know
how this works, I'm not a facebook user - anyone?) and youtube (you
can automatically upload your recorded shows to youtube - which is
awesome!).

The technological basis is Adobe Flash Media. That means to listen to
the shows you need a flash player, to host shows you need an encoder
(either a browser plugin or the free standalone version - see below).

4. THE THING FROM A HOST'S PERSPECTIVE:
---------------------------------------
There's the possibility to use either standard video quality or high
video quality. The approach for doing a show differs slightly in both
cases, so I'll describe them independently.

a) standard video quality
Simple. You click on "start broadcast" in your show's administration
page, a window pops up asking to access your camera/audio interface
and you can click on start and if wanted record. Any (I think
WDM-driven) audio and video device can be chosen as input sources, so
anyhting from your cheapo laptop webcam and builtin mike to
professional video camera and audio interface should work. (nb: some
pro audio interfaces sometimes only install ASIO drivers by default,
and the same may be true for pro video cameras. So you may need to
specifically install those drivers). There are some adjustments you
can make (most specifically, I believe you can turn up audio quality
up to 96kbps even in standard quality mode), but as said before, I
don't have that much experience with the standard video quality
approach.
I don't know which browser plugin or other "thing" is used for that -
obviously, it was already installed on my system.

b) high video quality
For using high video quality, there are two approaches possible. One
is to use a specific browser plugin (only available with Windows
machines and I believe on Firefox), the other is to use the (free)
Adobe Flas Media Encoder (which may or may not only work with
Windows/Firefox - I believe so but am not sure).
Number one basically works like with standard video quality, only you
need to install that specific plugin first.
Number two works a little more cumbersome: download a XML file, load
that into FME, setup remaining stuff in FME (e.g. camera and audio
source), start transmission in FME, open "broadcast" window in your
browser and start broadcast.

The obvious advante of using FME is that you can make your settings in
more detail (e.g. sampling frequency, audio bit rate, mono/stereo,
screen size etc.).

5. FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE:
-------------------------
First, let me point out that my experience here is limited: both of my
sessions so far were done on a somewhat meager computer (2GHz
PentiumIV running XP), and in every case I tried using high quality
streaming (see below). In that configuration, the constant system load
on the computer while streaming is in the 70-80% range. Now people who
have worked with things like Ninjam know that in some cases it is not
a prudent idea to have too high constant system loads, because spikes
in system load may then throw off the communication. See more on that
in the section on "open questions".

First tests with the standard quality setting looked promising, and
setup is really easy: enter the info for your show, click on the
broadcast button, select and allow access to video and audio source
and click "start broadcast" (and "record" if you want to) and off you
go.

In my two test runs so far, I encountered several problems, such as:
* when using the high quality plugin, the browser (Firefox) would
crash in rather short time intervals. Resetup was easy, however.

* The combination of ustream with the FME standalone did not always
work. "Cannot connect to server" from FME or the browser-based part
not detecting the transmission are rather common.
Loss of transmission was far more uncommon with FME than with the
browser plugin, but then again, starting again was more complicated
due to the various issues mentioned above.

(for this topic, I can fairly easily sort out "lack of upstream
bandwidth" as a problem source).

* Sometimes, within the ustream website, odd behaviour occured. Both
"This is not you show" when clicking on the "broadcast" button (being
logged in and going to it via "my shows" and all) and getting a "404
not found" when going to a show's page did appear several times.

* The Twitter interface did not seem to work - meaning I got the info
it had sent the message to twitter, but it didn't appear there.

* For some reason, I was not able to engage the record show
functionality when using ustream with the standalone FME.

Audio and video quality: I can only report on Matt's session here,
because obviously I didn't look at my own sessions that much. Both
audio and video appeared very acceptable in Matt's case. In those
circumstances when I would send a loop into the transmission and check
on another computer, the same applied (again, using the 96kbps quality
setting for audio).


6. OPEN QUESTIONS:
------------------
a) stability: transmission breaking down
Can any other user comment on the stability issues, also describing
their setup (OS, computer type, normal or high quality, FME or plugin
etc.)? Have you done anything to effectively combat any stability
issues you might have had at first?

b) stability: UI, not stream-related
As I mentioned, besides the transmission breakdown from time to time
there were occasional issues as "this is not your show" or "404 not
found" messages. Has anyone else experienced this?

c) audio quality
Jeff already commented on "warbled audio" before. Jeff, how did you
adjust the audio quality slider in your broadcast window? I seem to
remember that its default value is close to minimum, with the maximum
setting in the plugin being 96kbps, so that may have been the reason.
I also seem to remember (as Jeff does) that shows by other hosts (e.g.
Matt) were of acceptable audio quality. Matt, Marc, can you comment on
your settings?

d) co-hosts
There is the possibility to define several co-hosts for your show. How
does that work? Can they host simultaneously (like we could do a
visual kybermusik), or do they all have access to the same show at
different times (so we could set up an "odd looping" show, and we
could play concerts at different times on the same show)? Or something
in between..."ok, it's getting rather boring with Rainer here, but I
just hear that there's some interesting development in Orlando, so I'm
passing to my colleague who is watching Jeff's performance...". Need
to check that out.

7. NEXT STEPS:
--------------
I'll try using another computer to see if that sorts out those stability 
issues.
This will include transmission stability, ui issues and anything else
I have reported about those topics.

Check twitter interface

Check co-host functionality

Play with different quality settings - see if this is reflected in
recorded videos

And most importantly: do another session (this time with my
trombone-based "Rübezahl" setup), most probably this Saturday.


Looking forward to your comments and experiences!

Best,

       Rainer

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Andy,

> My electrics don't have the intonation problem that
> the compensated nut is reckoned to fix
>

Just out of interest, did you check that your nut is actually in the
theoretically 'correct' position with relation to the frets? As previously
noted, some manufacturers install their nuts (!) a gnats whisker closer to
the first fret than the correct scale length. Your guitars may very well
already be 'compensated'.

> What all my guitars tend to have, however, is an obsessively
> set up nut height :-)
However obsessively set up your nut is, the string still needs to stretch to
reach the fret or it wouldn't be able to vibrate.

None of the guitars on which I have installed compensated nuts *needed* the
compensation as such. They played, intonated and tuned just fine before. But
they sound 'different' after compensation - and to my ears 'sweeter'.
Whether they sound 'better' is obviously a matter of taste ...

Ian

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the compensated nut is reckoned to fix</div></blockquote></div><br></div><d=
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Lilypond is, in my opinion, then best notation software available at
least in terms of the final output.  It just looks gorgeous.  After
printing some of my own transcriptions with Lilypond and growing
accustomed to the output, it's annoying to read published works
obviously typeset with inferior software.

Now, the downside is the learning curve.  Ultimately, the input
language is very powerful and pretty easy to use once you get used to
it, but for a beginner it's a pain in the rear.

The good news is that Lilypond's free so you can download it, learn
how to use it by typesetting a few small pieces, and see how you feel
about it.  If you don't like it, you've not lost anything but a little
time.

Todd


On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> does anybody have used this open source software
> for music notation? looks interesting.
>
> --
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> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
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Hello fellow loopists,

 

I've been considering taking the plunge on an LP-1 and I wonder if someone
with experience can answer a few questions?

 

I'm currently using DL-4 and an RC-20, which I consider to be stagnant
loopers, so I'm looking forward to the controllable feedback in the LP.

 

If one uses an FCB-1010 floorboard with the LP-1, can a drum
machine/sampler/sequencer be triggered on and off by programming one of the
buttons on the floorboard? I know the two pedals onboard can be used as
feedback control (0% to 100%) and volume control. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

And can other MIDI devices be connected to work in conjunction with the drum
machine and LP-1? Say, like my Lexicon MPX-110 and a Vortex, or any of the
Eventide floor pedals like the ModFactor? Eclipse (rack mounted)?

 

Besides those questions, how difficult is the overall learning curve on the
LP? I know some of you here have done quite well with it. I recall an
article in Guitar Player said that he was up and running (perhaps with basic
commands, rec, overdub, send, etc.) in a short time.

 

Oh, yeh one more thing.can the LP-1 be compared to the upcoming Boomerang
III in any way? Ease of use? Programmability? Functions?

 

Anyway, thanks in advance for your answers.you can post them here or email
me privately.

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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LP-1 and
I wonder if someone with experience can answer a few =
questions?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I&#8217;m currently using DL-4 and an RC-20, which I
consider to be stagnant loopers, so I&#8217;m looking forward to the
controllable feedback in the LP.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>If one uses an FCB-1010 floorboard with the LP-1, can =
a drum
machine/sampler/sequencer be triggered on and off by programming one of =
the
buttons on the floorboard? I know the two pedals onboard can be used as
feedback control (0% to 100%) and volume control. Correct me if =
I&#8217;m wrong&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>And can other <st1:place w:st=3D"on">MIDI</st1:place> =
devices
be connected to work in conjunction with the drum machine and LP-1? Say, =
like
my Lexicon MPX-110 and a Vortex, or any of the Eventide floor pedals =
like the
ModFactor? Eclipse (rack mounted)?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Besides those questions, how difficult is the overall
learning curve on the LP? I know some of you here have done quite well =
with it.
I recall an article in Guitar Player said that he was up and running =
(perhaps
with basic commands, rec, overdub, send, etc.) in a short =
time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Oh, yeh one more thing&#8230;can the LP-1 be compared =
to the
upcoming Boomerang III in any way? Ease of use? Programmability? =
Functions?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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can
post them here or email me privately&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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> If one uses an FCB-1010 floorboard with the LP-1, can a drum =
machine/sampler/sequencer be triggered on and off by programming one of =
the > buttons on the floorboard?=20

Its been a while since I personally used an FCB1010, but I believe this =
is possible.  The drum machine and LP1 will need to be on different MIDI =
channels.

> I know the two pedals onboard can be used as feedback control (0% to =
100%) and volume control. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes

> And can other MIDI devices be connected to work in conjunction with =
the drum machine and LP-1? Say, like my Lexicon MPX-110 and a=20
> Vortex, or any of the Eventide floor pedals like the ModFactor? =
Eclipse (rack mounted)?

Yes, but remember that you have a limited number of buttons.

> Besides those questions, how difficult is the overall learning curve =
on the LP? I know some of you here have done quite well with it. I =
recall an=20
> article in Guitar Player said that he was up and running (perhaps with =
basic commands, rec, overdub, send, etc.) in a short time.

I'm obviously biased being the designer of the LP1, but I have been =
complimented again and again on how easy it is to use.  I'm also always =
willing to help you via email or telephone.

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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Its been a while since I =
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echoplex ebay auction,

1 day to go.

www.tinyurl.com/gibsonechoplex

from the UK.

cheers

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<div class="gmail_quote"><br>echoplex ebay auction,<br><br>1 day to go.<br><br><a href="http://www.tinyurl.com/gibsonechoplex" target="_blank">www.tinyurl.com/gibsonechoplex</a><br><br>from the UK.<br><br>cheers<br></div><br>

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I love Lilypond!! :)
 and totally agree with Todd: Output is great, learning curve is steep, once you're used to it, it's easy.

Over time, I've learnt to appreciate text-based input (sort of like writing HTML code) and the incredible variety of notation. It is also the only software that can notate microtonal steps, like i.e. in turkish traditional music, AND play them as midi files.

I use it both on Mac & PC. Don't know about audio crashes on Mac, works fine with me (except a minor chord glitch).
Personally, I recommend using it with jEdit text editor (PC&Mac), makes it much more comfortable: 
http://www.jedit.org/
http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/

You should definitely give Lilypond a try: http://lilypond.org/ !!

best regards
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Just a couple of points..

If one uses an FCB-1010 floorboard with the LP-1, can a drum
> machine/sampler/sequencer be triggered on and off by programming one of t=
he
> buttons on the floorboard? I know the two pedals onboard can be used as
> feedback control (0% to 100%) and volume control. Correct me if I=92m wro=
ng=85
>

Theoretically yes.. but bare in mind that on the FCB one has to choose a
midi channel per type of command you are sending. For example you can set
CCs to be transmitted on midi chan 6 and Patch Ch on midi chan 7 and Midi
notes on midi chan 8.... But if both devices need to use CC=B4s then you mi=
ght
have a problem, because both devices will have to be on the same midi
channel, therfore they might use the same numbers for stuff. However... The
LP1 can be made to learn whatever you want to control it (correct me if Im
wrong here Bob) so, you can make sure its something other than what you nee=
d
for your drum machine.

> And can other MIDI devices be connected to work in conjunction with the
> drum machine and LP-1? Say, like my Lexicon MPX-110 and a Vortex, or any =
of
> the Eventide floor pedals like the ModFactor? Eclipse (rack mounted)?
>

Mostely you just need midi clock in these devices, midi clock is global, so
if it has a cable plugged in.. it will work. But the Vortex has NO MIDI, so
you wont be doing that there... there are ways to synchonise a Vortex... bu=
t
they are clunky. (incidently.. does the LP1 hav a metronone sound, that can
come out of a headphone socket or something... then you could sync the
Vortex, using a couple of components... its in the archives.. I use this
technique with the EDP)

> Besides those questions, how difficult is the overall learning curve on t=
he
> LP? I know some of you here have done quite well with it. I recall an
> article in Guitar Player said that he was up and running (perhaps with ba=
sic
> commands, rec, overdub, send, etc.) in a short time.
>
I dont know, but I heard its a doddle... I heard its more difficult to
understand the manual than to actually do it...

> Oh, yeh one more thing=85can the LP-1 be compared to the upcoming Boomera=
ng
> III in any way? Ease of use? Programmability? Functions?
>
I doubt the Boomerang comes close... Because the LP1 is just getting bigger
and bigger... If I had one more child, I would sell it for medical research
and buy one immediatlly... as it is I only have one son, and I'm rather
attached to him...

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Just a couple of points..<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); marg=
in: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purp=
le" lang=3D"EN-US">

<div><p><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; fon=
t-family: Arial;">If one uses an FCB-1010 floorboard with the LP-1, can a d=
rum
machine/sampler/sequencer be triggered on and off by programming one of the
buttons on the floorboard? I know the two pedals onboard can be used as
feedback control (0% to 100%) and volume control. Correct me if I=92m wrong=
=85</span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Theoretically yes.. =
but bare in mind that on the FCB one has to choose a midi channel per type =
of command you are sending. For example you can set CCs to be transmitted o=
n midi chan 6 and Patch Ch on midi chan 7 and Midi notes on midi chan 8....=
 But if both devices need to use CC=B4s then you might have a problem, beca=
use both devices will have to be on the same midi channel, therfore they mi=
ght use the same numbers for stuff. However... The LP1 can be made to learn=
 whatever you want to control it (correct me if Im wrong here Bob) so, you =
can make sure its something other than what you need for your drum machine.=
 <br>

</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb=
(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link=
=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p><font face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font><=
/p>





<p><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-fam=
ily: Arial;">And can other MIDI devices
be connected to work in conjunction with the drum machine and LP-1? Say, li=
ke
my Lexicon MPX-110 and a Vortex, or any of the Eventide floor pedals like t=
he
ModFactor? Eclipse (rack mounted)?</span></font></p></div></div></blockquot=
e><div><br>Mostely you just need midi clock in these devices, midi clock is=
 global, so if it has a cable plugged in.. it will work. But the Vortex has=
 NO MIDI, so you wont be doing that there... there are ways to synchonise a=
 Vortex... but they are clunky. (incidently.. does the LP1 hav a metronone =
sound, that can come out of a headphone socket or something... then you cou=
ld sync the Vortex, using a couple of components... its in the archives.. I=
 use this technique with the EDP)<br>

</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb=
(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link=
=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p><font face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font><=
/p>





<p><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-fam=
ily: Arial;">Besides those questions, how difficult is the overall
learning curve on the LP? I know some of you here have done quite well with=
 it.
I recall an article in Guitar Player said that he was up and running (perha=
ps
with basic commands, rec, overdub, send, etc.) in a short time.</span></fon=
t></p></div></div></blockquote><div>I dont know, but I heard its a doddle..=
. I heard its more difficult to understand the manual than to actually do i=
t... <br>

</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb=
(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link=
=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p><font face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font><=
/p>



<p><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-fam=
ily: Arial;">Oh, yeh one more thing=85can the LP-1 be compared to the
upcoming Boomerang III in any way? Ease of use? Programmability? Functions?=
</span></font><br></p></div></div></blockquote><div>I doubt the Boomerang c=
omes close... Because the LP1 is just getting bigger and bigger... If I had=
 one more child, I would sell it for medical research and buy one immediatl=
ly... as it is I only have one son, and I&#39;m rather attached to him...<b=
r>

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ncombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/=
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Can I hum a tune and have it write an orchestral score for me? No.. oh
well... back to electric guitar then...

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

> I love Lilypond!! :)
>  and totally agree with Todd: Output is great, learning curve is steep,
> once you're used to it, it's easy.
>
> Over time, I've learnt to appreciate text-based input (sort of like writi=
ng
> HTML code) and the incredible variety of notation. It is also the only
> software that can notate microtonal steps, like i.e. in turkish tradition=
al
> music, AND play them as midi files.
>
> I use it both on Mac & PC. Don't know about audio crashes on Mac, works
> fine with me (except a minor chord glitch).
> Personally, I recommend using it with jEdit text editor (PC&Mac), makes i=
t
> much more comfortable:
> http://www.jedit.org/
> http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/
>
> You should definitely give Lilypond a try: http://lilypond.org/ !!
>
> best regards
> Buzap
>
>
> --
> Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen=
:
> http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01
>
>


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Can I hum a tune and have it write an orchestral score for me? No.. oh well=
... back to electric guitar then...<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Th=
u, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Buzap Buzap <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:buzap@gmx.net">buzap@gmx.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I love Lilypond!!=
 :)<br>
=A0and totally agree with Todd: Output is great, learning curve is steep, o=
nce you&#39;re used to it, it&#39;s easy.<br>
<br>
Over time, I&#39;ve learnt to appreciate text-based input (sort of like wri=
ting HTML code) and the incredible variety of notation. It is also the only=
 software that can notate microtonal steps, like i.e. in turkish traditiona=
l music, AND play them as midi files.<br>


<br>
I use it both on Mac &amp; PC. Don&#39;t know about audio crashes on Mac, w=
orks fine with me (except a minor chord glitch).<br>
Personally, I recommend using it with jEdit text editor (PC&amp;Mac), makes=
 it much more comfortable:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jedit.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.jedit.org/</=
a><br>
<a href=3D"http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/" target=3D"_blank">http://lilypo=
ndtool.organum.hu/</a><br>
<br>
You should definitely give Lilypond a try: <a href=3D"http://lilypond.org/"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://lilypond.org/</a> !!<br>
<br>
best regards<br>
Buzap<br>
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<br>
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Ian Petersen wrote:
> Andy,
> 
>     My electrics don't have the intonation problem that
>     the compensated nut is reckoned to fix
> 
> 
> Just out of interest, did you check that your nut is actually in the 
> theoretically 'correct' position with relation to the frets? As 
> previously noted, some manufacturers install their nuts (!) a gnats 
> whisker closer to the first fret than the correct scale length. Your 
> guitars may very well already be 'compensated'.  

Nope, they aren't.
...and the Hofner SG has a Zero fret

> 
>  > What all my guitars tend to have, however, is an obsessively
>>  set up nut height :-)
> 
> However obsessively set up your nut is, the string still needs to 
> stretch to reach the fret or it wouldn't be able to vibrate. 

When you buy a new guitar, it's very unlikely to have a perfectly
set up nut. So there's a lot of extra tension when the first fret
is fingered. 

Bringing the nut down a bit lessens that tension, to the extent
that on my guitars the intonation is spot on.
(checked with tuner)

I always ask as many useful questions as the guy can stand when
I get anything fixed, so consequently I found out how to
set up the nut myself.
Anyone wants to know, ask me off list.


> 
> None of the guitars on which I have installed compensated nuts *needed* 
> the compensation as such. They played, intonated and tuned just fine 
> before. But they sound 'different' after compensation - and to my ears 
> 'sweeter'. Whether they sound 'better' is obviously a matter of taste ...

Well, if you like it better, then I reckon it really is better...it's your instrument.

Sometimes I change the (non-comp) nuts on my guitars, they also get better :-)


andy

> 
> Ian
> 
> 

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> And can other MIDI devices be connected to work in conjunction with the=
 drum
> machine and LP-1? Say, like my Lexicon MPX-110 and a Vortex, or any of =
the
> Eventide floor pedals like the ModFactor? Eclipse (rack mounted)?

I have my Macbook running Mainstage, Bidule and Augustus loop synced to t=
he LP1, no problem. Btw: the LP1 starts sending a midi clock as soon as t=
rack 1 has been recorded. The bpm is calculated automaticly. You can also=
 alter the "number of beats per measure". I use this feature to "double" =
the BPM value. Default =3D 4 but I use 8 to avoid too low BPM values.
   
> Besides those questions, how difficult is the overall learning curve on=
 the
> LP? I know some of you here have done quite well with it. I recall an
> article in Guitar Player said that he was up and running (perhaps with =
basic
> commands, rec, overdub, send, etc.) in a short time.

The LP1 is easy to use. It has a very handy "midi learn" mode which makes=
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Hi Teddy,
yeah, checked it out yesterday evening. No problems...
Christo
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are you sure...

for everyone else it drifts out of sync over time when syncing to midi
in

check again

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On Apr 22, 2009, at 5:31 AM, chris@christojota.de wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> I checked both options: RC 50 as slave and master.
> I´m using a Roland MC 303 Groove Box and it worked
> well in both ways.
> If you wanna use the RC 50 as slave, you need a Drum-machine with
> Midi-Out.
> Connect the cable Midi out (Dr mach.) and Midi In (RC 50). Probably
> you know
> this.
> Swith the in the RC 50 "System: Midi Sync to: Auto"
> Switch your Dr mach. to Sync "out" and "internal".
> IMPORTANT: You have to start your dr mach from the
> 1st measure, not in the middle.
> If I handle it this way the RC 50 will be synced to the
> Groove box. No problems.
> Maybe it works better if you turn on the internal drums of the RC 50
> (even if put on a very low volume, if you don´t wanna hear it).
> Maybe this could help you.
> Best,
> Christo
> www.christojota.de
> www.myspace.com/christojota






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what are you doing different than than rest of us?

Are you using a pre-recorded loop to establish tempo or tapping the  
tempo in?

Teddy

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> Hi Teddy,
> yeah, checked it out yesterday evening. No problems...
> Christo
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> . (incidently.. does the LP1 hav a metronone sound, that can come out =
of a headphone socket or something

The LP1 doesn't have a built-in metronome sound.  However, you can =
easily create your own metronome using one of the eight tracks.  Since =
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> Because the LP1 is just getting bigger and bigger... If I had one more =
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to him...

I appreciate the kind words.  It has always been a goal with the LP1 to =
provide a product that can continue to grow.  New software upgrades were =
posted last week and this week to add features requested by Looperlative =
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software upgrades is something that more manufacturers should consider.  =
I know it isn't possible on all devices, but certainly it is something =
that the higher end devices should offer.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; </FONT>Because the LP1 is just =
getting bigger=20
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research and=20
buy one </DIV>
<DIV>&gt; immediatlly... as it is I only have one son, and I'm rather =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I appreciate the kind words.&nbsp; It =
has always=20
been a goal with the LP1 to provide a product that can continue to =
grow.&nbsp;=20
New software upgrades were posted last week and this week to add =
features=20
requested by Looperlative users.&nbsp; I'm really happy that I designed =
the LP1=20
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Regarding the ease of use and learning curve of the lp-1:  I found it shock=
ing how easy it was to switch my setup to this unit.  I went from an edp=2C=
 2880=2C and repeater=2C ditched everything in favour of the lp-1 and I cou=
ldn't be happier. =20

Dave

From: bob@amstadt.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Looperlative Questions
Date: Thu=2C 23 Apr 2009 07:59:25 -0700










> Because the LP1 is just getting bigger=20
and bigger... If I had one more child=2C I would sell it for medical resear=
ch and=20
buy one=20
> immediatlly... as it is I only have one son=2C and I'm rather attached=20
to him...

I appreciate the kind words.  It has always=20
been a goal with the LP1 to provide a product that can continue to grow. =20
New software upgrades were posted last week and this week to add features=20
requested by Looperlative users.  I'm really happy that I designed the LP1=
=20
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that providing free software upgrades is something that more manufacturers=
=20
should consider.  I know it isn't possible on all devices=2C but certainly =
it=20
is something that the higher end devices should offer.
=20
Bob Amstadt
=20
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ch and=20
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t has always=20
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Quoting ejyuhas <ejyuhas@embarqmail.com>:
>
> Besides those questions, how difficult is the overall learning curve on th=
e
> LP? I know some of you here have done quite well with it. I recall an
> article in Guitar Player said that he was up and running (perhaps with bas=
ic
> commands, rec, overdub, send, etc.) in a short time.
>
An afternoon with the Looperlative and the owner's manual is enough =20
time to learn how to use the Looperlative.

It is important to read the owner's manual because the LP1 has useful =20
functions that are not obvious.  (For example, to create a new (empty) =20
loop that is the same length as the master track, one selects an =20
unused channel and then issues a "Play/Stop" command.)

The LP1 is very flexible and highly programmable.  There are, quite =20
literally, hundreds of ways that the tracks can be grouped and =20
manipulated. Thus, one can experience a little bit of "option shock"  =20
(the same as when one uses any highly-flexible piece of hardware or =20
software).

My opinion of the LP1 is that, though it is easy to use for simple =20
looping, one will not quickly outgrow it.  I've owned my LP1 for about =20
1 1/2 years and I feel as though I've just scratched the surface.

Also, Bob's customer service is superb.

-- Kevin

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Hey Ed,

I've had excellent results with the LP-1 acting as both a master and slave
clock source, with roland drum machines, the Electrix repeater and synced
delays and panning effects on a TC fireworx. The only clock issue I've had
was with an RC-50 and I believe that was pilot error or the RC-50's
inability to follow a midi clock source.  Though it has an ever expanding
feature set, The Looperlative is very easy to program a midi controller for
and should be able to do every thing you want to do other than give you
unconditional love and support, so I would think twice of giving that child
up for medical research, as Mark suggested...

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than
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> Kevin wrote:
> My opinion of the LP1 is that, though it is easy to use for simple =20
> looping, one will not quickly outgrow it.  I've owned my LP1=20
> for about =20
> 1 1/2 years and I feel as though I've just scratched the surface.

Good point. I would like to add this: because of it's simplicity, it's
easier to focus on the music rather than technology. And imo, because of =
the
short learning curve, you can improve your looping capabilities much =
faster
compared to more other high end loopers. Like Kevin said, the LP1 has =
enough
possibilities to keep you busy for the next couple of years ;)
---=20
Sjaak
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20
http://euroloopfest.com/=20
http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw



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I don't know if this is as live as it claims, but this is really nice:

   http://vimeo.com/2762672

  ...Tim...


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On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:

>  > Because the LP1 is just getting bigger and bigger... If I had one more
> child, I would sell it for medical research and buy one
> > immediatlly... as it is I only have one son, and I'm rather attached to
> him...
>
> P.S. Great deal on LP1s right now if you are willing to preorder from the
> next batch of electronics.  $999 + shipping.
>

Hmm does EBay accept children?



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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Bob Ams=
tadt <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bob@amstadt.com">bob@amstadt.c=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bord=
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eft: 1ex;">







<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">&gt; </font>Because the LP1 is just ge=
tting bigger=20
and bigger... If I had one more child, I would sell it for medical research=
 and=20
buy one </div>
<div>&gt; immediatlly... as it is I only have one son, and I&#39;m rather a=
ttached=20
to him...</div><div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">P.S. Great deal on LP1s right now if y=
ou are=20
willing to preorder from the next batch of electronics.=A0 $999 +=20
shipping.</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Hmm does EBay accept chil=
dren? <br></div></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.c=
om/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>

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user/markfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">=
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/=
shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabe=
l.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch</a><br>



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Join me this Saturday for the first video-transmitted session
featuring my "R=FCbezahl" solo trombone programme as seen on my
MoinSound 2008 World Tour and my Wie gro=DF ist die Luft ? album. And
look forward for as of yet unconfirmed surprise guests!

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I know this has been covered before, but can someone list some of the  
essential differences between the LP-1 and the EDP? Is there anything  
the EDP can do that the LP-1 can't? (Yes, I realize "essential" is a  
subjective term here...I guess when I say "essential", I mean "main",  
not that that really clears anything up...: )

Thanks,

Jeff

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Os,
Thanks for the update, very good. Btw: "Improvizone", is that your
initiative? It would be great to have or start up something like this in
Antwerp ;)
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liking it very much. the lead guitar tones are just gorgeous, and i like
what you're doing with, i think, shortening the loop and then working with
whatever rhythm comes out of that.  and enough twists and turns to stay
interesting. Nice feedback.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Anders Bergdahl <
anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  So i took some time to record a jam session with me, EDP, Soloway Cygnus
> guitar and a Custom By Cougar Dumble style amp...
> First part of a long improvisation, inspired by the changing April
> weather... enjoy :) ( a few nods to David Torn in this one... and Kaiser of
> course.. )
> April Weather PT1 >
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=924516
> (listen to the HIFi version...)
> Feel free to comment and give constructive criticism...
>



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liking it very much. the lead guitar tones are just gorgeous, and i like wh=
at you&#39;re doing with, i think, shortening the loop and then working wit=
h whatever rhythm comes out of that.=A0 and enough twists and turns to stay=
 interesting. Nice feedback.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Anders Ber=
gdahl <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com=
">anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
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<div>
So i took some time to record a jam session with me, EDP, Soloway Cygnus gu=
itar and a Custom By Cougar Dumble style amp...<br>
First part of a long improvisation, inspired by the changing April weather.=
.. enjoy :) ( a few nods to David Torn in this one... and Kaiser of course.=
. )<br>
April Weather PT1 &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.c=
fm?bandID=3D924516" target=3D"_blank">http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defau=
lt.cfm?bandID=3D924516</a><br>
(listen to the HIFi version...)<br>
Feel free to comment and give constructive criticism...<br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679">http://www.ubetoo.com/Arti=
st.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com">http=
://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>


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Thanks Warren=2C

yes it is shortning the loop=2C i think it's calles "unrounded multiply" in=
 EDP speak. What i do is i hit multiply and the record=2C the loop will be =
cut so that i get it from start to the point i hit record. If the loop have=
 several cycles it will now be one "onrounded" cycle. I think it's fun to s=
ee what I get=2C it keeps me alert and gives me oportunity to train my abil=
ity to handle what ever i get. I'm starting to learn how to get it more und=
er control so that it is no completly random=2C more like hmm that was not =
exactly what i expected but cool never the less....

=20

Thanks for listning. (And yes I'm pleased with the tone - only used the OD =
"channel" with pre-OD tone stack disengaged=2C variations in tone is by usi=
ng the volume control=2C pickup switch (only controls on the guitar) and my=
 fingers...)
=20



liking it very much. the lead guitar tones are just gorgeous=2C and i like =
what you're doing with=2C i think=2C shortening the loop and then working w=
ith whatever rhythm comes out of that.  and enough twists and turns to stay=
 interesting. Nice feedback.





April Weather PT1 > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=3D92=
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Wow! 10 Years already?!  Happy Birthday CTC!

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> please come and join us at the collective, we are having our 10th birthday party and as our gift to you we are releasing our 35th effort.....CT-PROJECT "ReUSE" by jim goodin and company!!!!!.....mr. nelson said there would be cake!.....:)m
-- 
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The Chain Tape Collective was launched 10 years ago by Michael Klobuchar ...
and just released its 35th album !!!  big congratulations to everyone
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... visit www.ct-collective.com, download or stream the music, have fun, and
leave some feedback ...
 
-Michael Peters

  _____  

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so we are a bit late.....:).....mr. peters asked me when CTC got
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thanks!

Improvizone is the brainchild of the drummer, Andrew Booker.

http://www.improvizone.com/

It started off as a website on to which anyone could upload improvised
music (and this is still the case), but it's now mostly focussed on
these gigs.


cheers,
os.


2009/4/23 Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>:
> Os,
> Thanks for the update, very good. Btw: "Improvizone", is that your
> initiative? It would be great to have or start up something like this in
> Antwerp ;)
> ---
> Sjaak
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
>
>
>
>



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At 10:19 AM +0200 4/23/09, mark francombe wrote:
>
>And can other MIDI devices be connected to work in conjunction with 
>the drum machine and LP-1? Say, like my Lexicon MPX-110 and a 
>Vortex, or any of the Eventide floor pedals like the ModFactor? 
>Eclipse (rack mounted)?
>
>Mostely you just need midi clock in these devices, midi clock is 
>global, so if it has a cable plugged in.. it will work. But the 
>Vortex has NO MIDI, so you wont be doing that there... there are 
>ways to synchonise a Vortex... but they are clunky. (incidently.. 
>does the LP1 hav a metronone sound, that can come out of a headphone 
>socket or something... then you could sync the Vortex, using a 
>couple of components... its in the archives.. I use this technique 
>with the EDP)

Even though, as Bob pointed out, you could very quickly and simply 
record a metronome sound and output it via one of the Aux Outs, 
here's an additional solution.

Go down to your local pawn shop and blow ~$50 bucks on just about any 
leftover crap drum machine with MIDI from the '80's.  I'd imagine 
that probably any Alesis -- like their old HR or SR series machines 
-- ought to do fine.  We already know that the LP-1 outputs reliable 
MIDI clock.  So just come up with a simple click-track pattern on the 
drumbox, sync it to the MIDI clock output by the Looperlative, and 
run this audio click-track into the EDP/Vortex/whatever.  There's not 
even any need to bother routing the audio from the cheapo drum 
machine into the mains; it's used solely as a sync device, so who 
cares what its audio quality is like.

I'm betting you'd get cleaner, more controllable results doing it 
this way, rather than recording live audio and routing that into the 
other device.  But of course, YMMV.

At 6:37 PM +0200 4/23/09, Sjaak wrote:
>  > Kevin wrote:
>>  My opinion of the LP1 is that, though it is easy to use for simple 
>>  looping, one will not quickly outgrow it.  I've owned my LP1
>>  for about 
>>  1 1/2 years and I feel as though I've just scratched the surface.
>
>Good point. I would like to add this: because of it's simplicity, it's
>easier to focus on the music rather than technology. And imo, because of the
>short learning curve, you can improve your looping capabilities much faster
>compared to more other high end loopers. Like Kevin said, the LP1 has enough
>possibilities to keep you busy for the next couple of years ;)

Yeah, I'll play pile on and agree here as well.

Seems Bob built from the same philosophy that Unix did years ago: 
construct many simple tools that can each be used on their own, or 
that can interact and be used together to build functions which are 
remarkable and complex.  Elegant, functional, and as simple or 
complex as you'd like to make it.

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<div>At 10:19 AM +0200 4/23/09, mark francombe wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br>
<blockquote><font size="-1">And can other MIDI devices be connected to
work in conjunction with the drum machine and LP-1? Say, like my
Lexicon MPX-110 and a Vortex, or any of the Eventide floor pedals like
the ModFactor? Eclipse (rack mounted)?</font></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><br>
Mostely you just need midi clock in these devices, midi clock is
global, so if it has a cable plugged in.. it will work. But the Vortex
has NO MIDI, so you wont be doing that there... there are ways to
synchonise a Vortex... but they are clunky. (incidently.. does the LP1
hav a metronone sound, that can come out of a headphone socket or
something... then you could sync the Vortex, using a couple of
components... its in the archives.. I use this technique with the
EDP)</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>Even though, as Bob pointed out, you could very quickly and
simply record a metronome sound and output it via one of the Aux Outs,
here's an additional solution. </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Go down to your local pawn shop and blow ~$50 bucks on just about
any leftover crap drum machine with MIDI from the '80's.&nbsp; I'd
imagine that probably any Alesis -- like their old HR or SR series
machines -- ought to do fine.&nbsp; We already know that the LP-1
outputs reliable MIDI clock.&nbsp; So just come up with a simple
click-track pattern on the drumbox, sync it to the MIDI clock output
by the Looperlative, and run this audio click-track into the
EDP/Vortex/whatever.&nbsp; There's not even any need to bother routing
the audio from the cheapo drum machine into the mains; it's used
solely as a sync device, so who cares what its audio quality is
like.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'm betting you'd get cleaner, more controllable results doing it
this way, rather than recording live audio and routing that into the
other device.&nbsp; But of course, YMMV.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>At 6:37 PM +0200 4/23/09, Sjaak wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>&gt; Kevin wrote:<br>
&gt; My opinion of the LP1 is that, though it is easy to use for
simple&nbsp;<br>
&gt; looping, one will not quickly outgrow it.&nbsp; I've owned my
LP1<br>
&gt; for about&nbsp;<br>
&gt; 1 1/2 years and I feel as though I've just scratched the
surface.<br>
<br>
Good point. I would like to add this: because of it's simplicity,
it's<br>
easier to focus on the music rather than technology. And imo, because
of the<br>
short learning curve, you can improve your looping capabilities much
faster<br>
compared to more other high end loopers. Like Kevin said, the LP1 has
enough</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>possibilities to keep you busy for the
next couple of years ;)</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>Yeah, I'll play pile on and agree here as well.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Seems Bob built from the same philosophy that Unix did years ago:
construct many simple tools that can each be used on their own, or
that can interact and be used together to build functions which are
remarkable and complex.&nbsp; Elegant, functional, and as simple or
complex as you'd like to make it.</div>
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Is quite difficult to compare them since they are both very different but loop windowing and the whole turntable type "glitching" with the insert function while in unrounded mode comes to mind,it really makes the EDP a beast of its own,i dont think any looper can do that!
Luis


 Is there anything the EDP can
> do that the LP-1 can't? (Yes, I realize "essential" is a
> subjective term here...I guess when I say "essential", I
> mean "main", not that that really clears anything up...: )
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 


      

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Hang on a minute.

The EDP does send a click, if you decide to listen to it as audio.
but that click is actually a logic trigger.
Because the edp trigger is too short to trigger a Vortex Matthias
worked out the little circuit to lengthen the pulse.

http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm

Whether an audio click track passed thro' that circuit would
sync the vortex will only be discovered by trying it.
Possibly if the audio is amplified enough it works ok.
Possibly a kick drum sound would be a good thing to try.

andy


Mech wrote:
> At 10:19 AM +0200 4/23/09, mark francombe wrote:
>>
>>     And can other MIDI devices be connected to work in conjunction
>>     with the drum machine and LP-1? Say, like my Lexicon MPX-110 and a
>>     Vortex, or any of the Eventide floor pedals like the ModFactor?
>>     Eclipse (rack mounted)?
>>
>>

>> something... then you could sync the Vortex, using a couple of 
>> components... its in the archives.. I use this technique with the EDP)
> 
> Even though, as Bob pointed out, you could very quickly and simply 
> record a metronome sound and output it via one of the Aux Outs, here's 
> an additional solution.
> 
> Go down to your local pawn shop and blow ~$50 bucks on just about any 
> leftover crap drum machine with MIDI from the '80's.  I'd imagine that 

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Well, the Looperlative has the advantage of superior technology,
it does an awful lot the EDP can't, and has the possibility 
of doing a bit more as time goes on, with it's downloadable firmware.

The EDP, by comparison, could be seen as very limited, with it's
mono one loop at a time configuration.

On the other hand the EDP has a much more interactive/organic user interface,
with an extensive catalog of user tricks possible with just 7 multi-function buttons.

Apart from the EDP slice'n'dice/loopwindow/SUSfunction madness, and it's elegant implementation
of Multiply you could probably program the Looperlative to do anything the
EDP can, in stereo too....but the EDP does it without being programmed,
and possibly by accident.

Does that explain it?

How about

The Looperlative is the Rolls Royce of looping,
the EDP is a cross between a Dune Buggy and hitching 
a lift with Matthias Grob 

andy butler




 

Jeff Shirkey wrote:
> I know this has been covered before, but can someone list some of the 
> essential differences between the LP-1 and the EDP? Is there anything 
> the EDP can do that the LP-1 can't? (Yes, I realize "essential" is a 
> subjective term here...I guess when I say "essential", I mean "main", 
> not that that really clears anything up...: )
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 

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Hang on another minute...

I did not say you could synch from edp to vortex out of the box.. no...
BUT... I installed mattias=B4s mod INTO my Vortex... yes as in INSIDE.. I
re-appropriated one of the jack sockets (the one for amp switching) put in =
2
switches, one to send thru mattias circuit to the tap tempo lug on the jack
plug and one switch to send it to the morph lug on that socket (or is it th=
e
same one) so my Vortex has 2 switchs on the front. the cable comes from EDP
beat sync jack.

It works perfectly.. i can either sync the echos to the beat or morph to th=
e
beat. not both.. for some reason if I flick both switches it cant trigger
both functions... But you dont need it.. echos only have to be synced
once....

THEN... can it be used with other things... YES!!! I regularly sync my
vortex from an analog sequencer, that send out trigger pulses, and I have
got it to trigger from a drum machine too, (but if my memory serves me
right.. i had to amplify it hugely to get it to work (the multifarious uses
of a Big Muff came in handy here)... I think that was a snare sound... but
it wast as fun as I had hoped (trying for irregular delays)...

Mark

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>wrote=
:

> Hang on a minute.
>
> The EDP does send a click, if you decide to listen to it as audio.
> but that click is actually a logic trigger.
> Because the edp trigger is too short to trigger a Vortex Matthias
> worked out the little circuit to lengthen the pulse.
>
> http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm
>
> Whether an audio click track passed thro' that circuit would
> sync the vortex will only be discovered by trying it.
> Possibly if the audio is amplified enough it works ok.
> Possibly a kick drum sound would be a good thing to try.
>
> andy
>
>
> Mech wrote:
>
>> At 10:19 AM +0200 4/23/09, mark francombe wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>    And can other MIDI devices be connected to work in conjunction
>>>    with the drum machine and LP-1? Say, like my Lexicon MPX-110 and a
>>>    Vortex, or any of the Eventide floor pedals like the ModFactor?
>>>    Eclipse (rack mounted)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>  something... then you could sync the Vortex, using a couple of
>>> components... its in the archives.. I use this technique with the EDP)
>>>
>>
>> Even though, as Bob pointed out, you could very quickly and simply recor=
d
>> a metronome sound and output it via one of the Aux Outs, here's an
>> additional solution.
>>
>> Go down to your local pawn shop and blow ~$50 bucks on just about any
>> leftover crap drum machine with MIDI from the '80's.  I'd imagine that
>>
>
>


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Hang on another minute...<br><br>I did not say you could synch from edp to =
vortex out of the box.. no... BUT... I installed mattias=B4s mod INTO my Vo=
rtex... yes as in INSIDE.. I re-appropriated one of the jack sockets (the o=
ne for amp switching) put in 2 switches, one to send thru mattias circuit t=
o the tap tempo lug on the jack plug and one switch to send it to the morph=
 lug on that socket (or is it the same one) so my Vortex has 2 switchs on t=
he front. the cable comes from EDP beat sync jack. <br>

<br>It works perfectly.. i can either sync the echos to the beat or morph t=
o the beat. not both.. for some reason if I flick both switches it cant tri=
gger both functions... But you dont need it.. echos only have to be synced =
once....<br>

<br>THEN... can it be used with other things... YES!!! I regularly sync my =
vortex from an analog sequencer, that send out trigger pulses, and I have g=
ot it to trigger from a drum machine too, (but if my memory serves me right=
.. i had to amplify it hugely to get it to work (the multifarious uses of a=
 Big Muff came in handy here)... I think that was a snare sound... but it w=
ast as fun as I had hoped (trying for irregular delays)...<br>

<br>Mark<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM=
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k">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
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pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

Hang on a minute.<br>
<br>
The EDP does send a click, if you decide to listen to it as audio.<br>
but that click is actually a logic trigger.<br>
Because the edp trigger is too short to trigger a Vortex Matthias<br>
worked out the little circuit to lengthen the pulse.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm</a><br>
<br>
Whether an audio click track passed thro&#39; that circuit would<br>
sync the vortex will only be discovered by trying it.<br>
Possibly if the audio is amplified enough it works ok.<br>
Possibly a kick drum sound would be a good thing to try.<br>
<br>
andy<br>
<br>
<br>
Mech wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
At 10:19 AM +0200 4/23/09, mark francombe wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
 =A0 =A0And can other MIDI devices be connected to work in conjunction<br>
 =A0 =A0with the drum machine and LP-1? Say, like my Lexicon MPX-110 and a<=
br>
 =A0 =A0Vortex, or any of the Eventide floor pedals like the ModFactor?<br>
 =A0 =A0Eclipse (rack mounted)?<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class=
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: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">


something... then you could sync the Vortex, using a couple of components..=
. its in the archives.. I use this technique with the EDP)<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Even though, as Bob pointed out, you could very quickly and simply record a=
 metronome sound and output it via one of the Aux Outs, here&#39;s an addit=
ional solution.<br>
<br>
Go down to your local pawn shop and blow ~$50 bucks on just about any lefto=
ver crap drum machine with MIDI from the &#39;80&#39;s. =A0I&#39;d imagine =
that <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.m=
arkfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/=
user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://uk.youtube=
.com/user/markfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">http://www.myspace.com/mar=
kfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSync=
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Time for giving thanks to those who make it available and possible as it is
today, so the big thanks going to project coordinators who have rised
quality standards to real pro status and the extra-mega-super-big thanks to
our silent bodhitsava Michael Peters who manages our one & only face, the
collective's website.



2009/4/24, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>:
>
>  The Chain Tape Collective was launched 10 years ago by Michael Klobuchar
> ... and just released its 35th album !!!  big congratulations to everyone
> involved
>
> ... visit www.ct-collective.com, download or stream the music, have fun,
> and leave some feedback ...
>
> -Michael Peters
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Chain-Tape-Collective@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> Chain-Tape-Collective@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *nemoguitt@aol.com
>
> so we are a bit late.....:).....mr. peters asked me when CTC got
> started.....i remember sending out the first 4 cassettes on APRIL 1
> 1999.....i thought it was a great day to get started.....so 10 years later
> we put up our 35th CD.....WONDERFUL.....i can name names, but i
> won't.....:).....a MONSTER BIG THANK YOU TO ALL.....i want more
> music!!!!!.....:)m
>
> "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater
>
> new groovy tunes at:
> http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
> www.ct-collective.com
>



-- 
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<div>=A0<br>Time for giving thanks to those who make it available and possi=
ble as it is today, so the big thanks going to project coordinators who hav=
e rised quality standards to real pro status and the extra-mega-super-big t=
hanks to our silent bodhitsava Michael Peters who=A0manages=A0our one &amp;=
=A0only face, the collective&#39;s website.=A0<br>
<br><br>=A0</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/4/24, Michael Peters &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:mp@mpeters.de">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">The C=
hain Tape Collective was launched 10 years ago by Michael Klobuchar ... and=
 just released its 35th album !!!=A0 big congratulations to everyone involv=
ed </font></span></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></fon=
t></span>=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">... v=
isit <a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"ht=
tp://www.ct-collective.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ct-collective.com</a>, d=
ownload or stream the music, have fun, and leave some feedback ...</font></=
span></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></fon=
t></span>=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">-Mich=
ael Peters</font></span></div><br>
<div lang=3D"de" dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left">
<hr>
<font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><b>From:</b> <a onclick=3D"return top.js.O=
penExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:Chain-Tape-Collective@yahoogr=
oups.com" target=3D"_blank">Chain-Tape-Collective@yahoogroups.com</a> [mail=
to:<a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mail=
to:Chain-Tape-Collective@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">Chain-Tape-Coll=
ective@yahoogroups.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a onclick=3D"return top.js=
.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:nemoguitt@aol.com" target=
=3D"_blank">nemoguitt@aol.com</a><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D"2"><font size=3D"+0"><spa=
n>=A0</span></font></font></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D"2"><font size=3D"+0">so w=
e are a bit late.....:).....mr. peters asked me when CTC got started.....i =
remember sending out the first 4 cassettes on APRIL 1 1999.....i thought it=
 was a great day to get started.....so 10 years later we put up our 35th CD=
.....WONDERFUL.....i can name names, but i won&#39;t.....:).....a MONSTER B=
IG THANK YOU TO ALL.....i want more music!!!!!.....:)m<br>
<br>&quot;EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG&quot;.....firesign theater<br><br>ne=
w groovy tunes at:<br><a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,=
this)" href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/www.myspace.com/klobuchar10</a><br>
<a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"http://=
www.ct-collective.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ct-collective.com</a><br></fo=
nt></font></font></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-=
- <br>
Raul Bonell at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://r=
aulbonell.blogspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.=
ct-collective.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>

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ANd what is loopwindow and how di I use it ???? Susfunction madness is also=
 unknown to me.

I use insert quite a lot=2C the setting where i overwrite on the next pass=
=2C i also use unrounded multipl (Multiply=2C the record) to "slice'n'Dice"=
 is there even more=2C cooler slice and dice functions.=20

I really enjoy playing with the EDP=2C it's FUN :-). So what functions do I=
 really USE????=20


Regards=2C


Anders

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On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Anders Bergdahl
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> ANd what is loopwindow and how di I use it ????

After you have been shortening a long loop with multiply-multiply or
mulitply-record you may hit undo. This is how you perform
loopwindowing. What happens then is that the audio content of your new
shortened loop will change to some random chunk of the previously
longer loop. You see, you can not undo a destructive length cut, as
the multiply-record blow, but all the old audio from the previously
longer loop is still left in the memory buffer, but scrambled.

A popular trick is to make a hell of a long loop with some variations.
Then you cut it down and start improving over the shorter loop while
regularly kicking at the undo to change the loop content.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Ahh I think i have done this by mistake :-) Cool...
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> From: perboysen@gmail.com

> > ANd what is loopwindow and how di I use it ????
>=20
> After you have been shortening a long loop with multiply-multiply or
> mulitply-record you may hit undo. This is how you perform
> loopwindowing. What happens then is that the audio content of your new
> shortened loop will change to some random chunk of the previously
> longer loop. You see=2C you can not undo a destructive length cut=2C as
> the multiply-record blow=2C but all the old audio from the previously
> longer loop is still left in the memory buffer=2C but scrambled.
>=20
> A popular trick is to make a hell of a long loop with some variations.
> Then you cut it down and start improving over the shorter loop while
> regularly kicking at the undo to change the loop content.
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> Greetings from Sweden
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> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
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On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Anders Bergdahl
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> Ahh I think i have done this by mistake :-) Cool...

Coolest thing is that the EDP designers also designed this lovely
feature "by mistake". We're all part of the same freak show... ;-)

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per said...

>
> loopwindowing. What happens then is that the audio content of your new
> shortened loop will change to some random chunk of the previously
> longer loop. You see, you can not undo a destructive length cut, as
> the multiply-record blow, but all the old audio from the previously
> longer loop is still left in the memory buffer, but scrambled.
>
> A popular trick is to make a hell of a long loop with some variations.
> Then you cut it down and start improving over the shorter loop while
> regularly kicking at the undo to change the loop content.


Its not really random.. or scrambled.. I have done experiments to figure out
what exactly is happening.
Basically.. if you record a cycle (1) then multiply onto it, say 8 times (1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8)  THEN multiply down to just say... (2 3) if you hit undo, it
depends on your quantise setting of 8ths (I think) but if its set to 8 you
will then hear (3 4) one cycle remains and you reveal the next 8th.. If you
hit UNDO again you get (4 5).

BUT... if your quantise setting is 4ths you get first (4 5) then (6 7) then
(8 1) then (2 3)...

Its something like that anyway... if you work with it alot, without changing
settings, you can get used to the results... Its certainly not random...
just "Far Out!"


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<br>per said...<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0p=
t 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
loopwindowing. What happens then is that the audio content of your new<br>
shortened loop will change to some random chunk of the previously<br>
longer loop. You see, you can not undo a destructive length cut, as<br>
the multiply-record blow, but all the old audio from the previously<br>
longer loop is still left in the memory buffer, but scrambled.<br>
<br>
A popular trick is to make a hell of a long loop with some variations.<br>
Then you cut it down and start improving over the shorter loop while<br>
regularly kicking at the undo to change the loop content.</blockquote><div>=
<br>Its not really random.. or scrambled.. I have done experiments to figur=
e out what exactly is happening. <br>Basically.. if you record a cycle (1) =
then multiply onto it, say 8 times (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8)=A0 THEN multiply down =
to just say... (2 3) if you hit undo, it depends on your quantise setting o=
f 8ths (I think) but if its set to 8 you will then hear (3 4) one cycle rem=
ains and you reveal the next 8th.. If you hit UNDO again you get (4 5).<br>

<br>BUT... if your quantise setting is 4ths you get first (4 5) then (6 7) =
then (8 1) then (2 3)... <br><br>Its something like that anyway... if you w=
ork with it alot, without changing settings, you can get used to the result=
s... Its certainly not random... just &quot;Far Out!&quot;<br>

</div></div><br><br clear=3D"all">Mark<br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.mark=
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m/user/markfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>

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Nice tracks, Anders ! The interesting thing about "unrounded multiply" =
is that it is spontaneous, and UNCONTROLLABLE in a way.
So, why not keep it uncontrolled? Although - for sure - I understand we =
all want to make this world controllable,don=B4t we?
I=B4m using both Boss RC 50 looper with a lot of functions and =
relatively easy to controll, and I am also using Boss DD 20
with just 20 seconds looping time and not much functions. I used the DD =
20 for my previous album "Guitar Looping # 1"
because it made me feel more spontaneous. It was a fresh new experience =
for me, after the long time I only used
the RC 50 for my looping. I also started to cut loops and stuff like =
that. It was fun. You know what I mean?
I really love drum-machines, synthesizers and all these little =
electronical things, but sometimes it makes
life easier to just play guitar and use the DD 20 for looping.
Keep it simple !
Best,
Christo
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Anders Bergdahl=20
  To: Loopers Delight=20
  Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:39 AM
  Subject: RE: NEW improvisation by me..


  Thanks Warren,
  yes it is shortning the loop, i think it's calles "unrounded multiply" =
in EDP speak. What i do is i hit multiply and the record, the loop will =
be cut so that i get it from start to the point i hit record. If the =
loop have several cycles it will now be one "onrounded" cycle. I think =
it's fun to see what I get, it keeps me alert and gives me oportunity to =
train my ability to handle what ever i get. I'm starting to learn how to =
get it more under control so that it is no completly random, more like =
hmm that was not exactly what i expected but cool never the less....
  =20
  Thanks for listning. (And yes I'm pleased with the tone - only used =
the OD "channel" with pre-OD tone stack disengaged, variations in tone =
is by using the volume control, pickup switch (only controls on the =
guitar) and my fingers...)
  =20

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-----

  liking it very much. the lead guitar tones are just gorgeous, and i =
like what you're doing with, i think, shortening the loop and then =
working with whatever rhythm comes out of that.  and enough twists and =
turns to stay interesting. Nice feedback.



    April Weather PT1 > =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Nice tracks, Anders ! The interesting thing =
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way.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>So, why not keep it uncontrolled? Although - for =
sure - I=20
understand we all want to make this world controllable,don=B4t =
we?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I=B4m using both Boss RC 50 looper with a lot of =
functions=20
and relatively easy to controll, and I am also using Boss DD =
20</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>with just 20 seconds looping time and not much =
functions.=20
I used the DD 20 for my previous album "Guitar Looping # 1"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>because it made me feel more spontaneous. It was =
a fresh=20
new experience for me, after the long time I only used</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>the RC 50 for my looping. I also started to cut =
loops and=20
stuff like that. It was fun. You know what I mean?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I really love drum-machines, synthesizers and =
all these=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>life easier to just play guitar and use the DD =
20 for=20
looping.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Keep it simple !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Christo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><A=20
href=3D"http://www.christojota.de">www.christojota.de</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><A=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Thanks Warren,<BR>yes it is shortning the loop, i think =
it's=20
  calles "unrounded multiply" in EDP speak. What i do is i hit multiply =
and the=20
  record, the loop will be cut so that i get it from start to the point =
i hit=20
  record. If the&nbsp;loop have several cycles it will now be one =
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  cycle. I think it's fun to see what&nbsp;I get,&nbsp;it keeps me alert =
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  gives me oportunity to train my ability to handle what ever i get. I'm =

  starting to learn how to get it more under control so that it is no =
completly=20
  random, more like hmm&nbsp;that was not&nbsp;exactly what i expected =
but cool=20
  never the less....<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Thanks for listning.&nbsp;(And =
yes&nbsp;I'm=20
  pleased with the tone -&nbsp;only used the OD "channel" =
with&nbsp;pre-OD tone=20
  stack disengaged, variations in tone is by using the volume control,=20
  pickup&nbsp;switch (only controls on the guitar) and my=20
  fingers...)<BR>&nbsp;<BR>
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  <BR>liking it very much. the lead guitar tones are just gorgeous, and =
i like=20
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> On the other hand the EDP has a much more interactive/organic user 
> interface,
> with an extensive catalog of user tricks possible with just 7 
> multi-function buttons.

Organic?  I think the EDP is wonderful device but I found its user interface 
to be anything but organic.  There is definitely a learning curve to the 
unit.  I think the reality is that you guys have been using the EDP for so 
long that it has become second nature to you, but it is not an easy device 
for somebody new to it.

> Apart from the EDP slice'n'dice/loopwindow/SUSfunction madness,

This is one of the items that you'll always have to get an EDP if you want 
to do it.  I have no intention of recreating this.  It is a beautiful 
accident.

Certainly I'll continue to add new and cool features to the LP1, but it is 
not an EDP clone nor did I ever intend it to be.  The LP1 offers numerous 
manipulations not possible on the EDP.  The biggest is the 8 independent 
tracks that can be running simultaneously.  If you use the tracks to create 
layers to your piece, then you can apply manipulations such as reverse to a 
single layer at any time.  The LP1 also allows you to chop up your audio, 
but it does it with the bounce feature which allows you to record the 
outputs of any combination of tracks to a new track.  With this you can grab 
large or small sections of your loops to create a new loop.

And best yet, I'll continue to update the LP1 software and there is no 
charge to upgrade to the latest software.

My recommendation is buy one of each.  They are different animals and both 
very cool.

Bob Amstadt
Looperlative Audio Products 

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[andy]
> How about
>=20
> The Looperlative is the Rolls Royce of looping,
> the EDP is a cross between a Dune Buggy and hitching=20
> a lift with Matthias Grob=20

Looperlative

  http://822info.com/shopimages/sections/thumbnails/Rolls_Royce.jpg

EDP

  http://pixdaus.com/pics/1206094863u1ANMnj.jpg

RC-20

  http://remmeh.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/tricycle_2.jpg

Mobius

  http://images04.olx.com/ui/1/45/42/4304342_1.jpg


:-)=

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LOL - that was fun and somewhat accurate! ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wr=
ote:
>
> [andy]
>> How about
>>
>> The Looperlative is the Rolls Royce of looping,
>> the EDP is a cross between a Dune Buggy and hitching
>> a lift with Matthias Grob
>
> Looperlative
>
> =C2=A0http://822info.com/shopimages/sections/thumbnails/Rolls_Royce.jpg
>
> EDP
>
> =C2=A0http://pixdaus.com/pics/1206094863u1ANMnj.jpg
>
> RC-20
>
> =C2=A0http://remmeh.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/tricycle_2.jpg
>
> Mobius
>
> =C2=A0http://images04.olx.com/ui/1/45/42/4304342_1.jpg
>
>
> :-)
>

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Zoe Keating schrieb:
> the monitor guy had the stage monitors in front of me on for this song, 
> and towards the end was cranking them so the stage was LOUD (normally we 
> have in ears to avoid this issue). i started to feedback something 
> fierce and couldn't do anything about it.  i had to cut the song and 
> couldn't do my planned long layered looping outro...but it worked out...

Stage monitors need built in volume pedals, and you have to glue a tape 
across the main mixer channels to prevent deaf sound guys to crank up 
anything. I always tell them balancing sound is lowering the too loud 
levels, not pushing what doesn't get through...

Stefan

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My tape rig:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/schneurertoys4tots---21.jpg

Daryl Shawn
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www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> [andy]
>   
>> How about
>>
>> The Looperlative is the Rolls Royce of looping,
>> the EDP is a cross between a Dune Buggy and hitching 
>> a lift with Matthias Grob 
>>     

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I'm now watching/listening to the part 5: very nice, stuff for my taste.

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> thanks!
>
> Improvizone is the brainchild of the drummer, Andrew Booker.
>
> http://www.improvizone.com/
>
> It started off as a website on to which anyone could upload improvised
> music (and this is still the case), but it's now mostly focussed on
> these gigs.
>
>
> cheers,
> os.
>
>
> 2009/4/23 Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>:
>> Os,
>> Thanks for the update, very good. Btw: "Improvizone", is that your
>> initiative? It would be great to have or start up something like this in
>> Antwerp ;)
>> ---
>> Sjaak
>> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
>> http://euroloopfest.com/
>> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> os@collective.co.uk
> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/
>
>


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Hi LD,

Roberto  is visiting Japan now and we just did gigs.
I  uploaded short movies below:

Live at Penguin House, Tokyo on 23rd April.
Roberto Zorzi (gt),Tadahiko Yokogawa (vio,computer) and Sunao Inami (computer).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zcnOtqV5io

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDeJ88xWqM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxk-tDWFBd0


  Regards

   Sunao



At 11:50 PM +0900 09.4.9, Sunao Inami wrote:
>Hi LD,
>
>This is Roberto Zorzi Japan tour information.
>http://www.robertozorzi.com/
>
>He come to Japan in this month:
>
>20th April
>Super Deluxe,Tokyo
>http://www.super-deluxe.com/
>
>23rd April
>Penguin House, Tokyo
>http://www3.plala.or.jp/FREEDOM/PENGUIN.htm
>
>24th April
>Big Apple, Kobe
>http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/i/big-apple/
>
>26th April
>Urban Guild,Kyoto
>http://urbanguild.net/
>
>
>
>I will play with him on 23rd and 24th April.
>Mand Man (Hideki Nakanishi) will play with him on 26th.
>
>
>  Regards
>
>  Sunao
>http://www.myspace.com/sunao

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except for leonard cohen and paul mccartney...they got full  
soundchecks the day before. 

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yeah! volume pedals would be cool...we weren't supposed to have  
monitors on at all!

ah well, festival sound is like that. you have 15 minutes to setup &  
linecheck and then GO

On Apr 24, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

>> the monitor guy had the stage monitors in front of me on for this  
>> song, and towards the end was cranking them so the stage was LOUD  
>> (normally we have in ears to avoid this issue). i started to  
>> feedback something fierce and couldn't do anything about it.  i had  
>> to cut the song and couldn't do my planned long layered looping  
>> outro...but it worked out...
>
> Stage monitors need built in volume pedals, and you have to glue a  
> tape across the main mixer channels to prevent deaf sound guys to  
> crank up anything. I always tell them balancing sound is lowering  
> the too loud levels, not pushing what doesn't get through...
>
> Stefan

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Jeff Larson wrote:
> Looperlative
>
>   http://822info.com/shopimages/sections/thumbnails/Rolls_Royce.jpg
>   
So is this what I get to see on Bob's booth at Namm ??
http://tinyurl.com/cxpsxz

(sorry - weekend's starting over here, and sun is shining, and... )

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> So is this what I get to see on Bob's booth at Namm ??
> http://tinyurl.com/cxpsxz

I wish.

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I'm pleased to announce as CEO Klobuchar mentioned earlier, the newest
CT-Collective release, titled *(CT)Project ReUse*.  I'm proud to have led
this project that began as a simple idea on the subway platform last
September, the idea of a collection of music created using items our society
often throws away, as it's tonal palette.

ReUse features 16 tracks of inventive textural music created by several fine
folks from this community and beyond.  They are: *Will Romano (USA), The
Groceries (Wales), Andy Butler (UK), Randy Winchester (USA), Raul Bonell
(Paisos Catalans), Steve Burnett (USA), Anders Ostberg (Sweden), Daryl Shawn
(Mexico), Ronny Waernes (Norway), David Cooper Orton (Wales, UK), Ted
Killian (USA), Stephen Scott (UK), Des Slow (Albion), Rinus van Alebeek
(Berlin), Steve Moyes (England) and myself (USA)*.

ReUse composition information and track listening can be read/heard on
CT-Collective at
http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=41.

Heartfelt thanks to all the fine musicians that came together to make ReUse
happen, to Michael Peters for assistance in setting up the page on
Collective and to the guy who began it all founding CT-Collective, Sir
Michael Klobuchar.

Proudly,

Jim

-- 
ReUse <http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=41>, an
introspective textural aural journey...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
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video work/editing...
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social networking...
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bway platform last September, the idea of a collection of music created usi=
ng=A0items our society often throws away, as it&#39;s tonal palette.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>ReUse features 16 tracks of inventive textural music=A0created by=A0se=
veral fine folks from this community=A0and beyond.=A0 They are: <em>Will Ro=
mano (USA), The Groceries (Wales), Andy Butler (UK), Randy Winchester (USA)=
, Raul Bonell (Paisos Catalans), Steve Burnett (USA), Anders Ostberg (Swede=
n), Daryl Shawn (Mexico), Ronny Waernes (Norway), David Cooper Orton (Wales=
, UK), Ted Killian (USA), Stephen Scott (UK), Des Slow (Albion), Rinus van =
Alebeek (Berlin), Steve Moyes (England) and myself (USA)</em>.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>ReUse composition information and track listening can be read/heard on=
 CT-Collective at <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3D=
music&amp;albumid=3D41" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ct-collective.com/inde=
x.cfm?page=3Dmusic&amp;albumid=3D41</a>.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Heartfelt thanks to all the fine musicians=A0that came together to mak=
e=A0ReUse happen, to Michael Peters for assistance in setting up the page o=
n Collective and to the guy who began it all founding CT-Collective, Sir Mi=
chael Klobuchar.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Proudly,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Jim<br clear=3D"all"></div>
<div></div><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?pag=
e=3Dmusic&amp;albumid=3D41">ReUse</a>, an introspective textural aural jour=
ney...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.chinap=
aintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" t=
arget=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapa=
intingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank"=
>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspac=
e.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.youtube.co=
m/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al" target=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social netw=
orking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_b=
lank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
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Here here Jim! Sir Klobuchar is da man! The whole project sounds and =
looks wonderful. I am looking carefully at my trash before disposal now, =
hehe. Excellent job Jim! I still have yet to participate in one of =
these, it's on my bucket list...

Jeff



"You can't wait for inspiration. You have to go after it with a club."
- Jack London


http://jeffduke.org/
http://virb.com/jeffduke
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab
http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899
http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jim Goodin=20
  To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 5:44 PM
  Subject: Released - CT-Project ReUse


  I'm pleased to announce as CEO Klobuchar mentioned earlier, the newest =
CT-Collective release, titled (CT)Project ReUse.  I'm proud to have led =
this project that began as a simple idea on the subway platform last =
September, the idea of a collection of music created using items our =
society often throws away, as it's tonal palette.

  ReUse features 16 tracks of inventive textural music created by =
several fine folks from this community and beyond.  They are: Will =
Romano (USA), The Groceries (Wales), Andy Butler (UK), Randy Winchester =
(USA), Raul Bonell (Paisos Catalans), Steve Burnett (USA), Anders =
Ostberg (Sweden), Daryl Shawn (Mexico), Ronny Waernes (Norway), David =
Cooper Orton (Wales, UK), Ted Killian (USA), Stephen Scott (UK), Des =
Slow (Albion), Rinus van Alebeek (Berlin), Steve Moyes (England) and =
myself (USA).

  ReUse composition information and track listening can be read/heard on =
CT-Collective at =
http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&albumid=3D41.

  Heartfelt thanks to all the fine musicians that came together to make =
ReUse happen, to Michael Peters for assistance in setting up the page on =
Collective and to the guy who began it all founding CT-Collective, Sir =
Michael Klobuchar.

  Proudly,

  Jim


  --=20
  ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey...

  music links...
  www.jimgoodinmusic.com
  www.chinapaintingmusic.com
  www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
  www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
  www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
  www.myspace.com/jindream
  www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

  video work/editing...
  www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

  social networking...
  www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here here Jim! Sir Klobuchar is da man! =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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href=3D"http://jeffduke.org/">http://jeffduke.org/</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://virb.com/jeffduke">http://virb.com/jeffduke</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke">http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke</A><=
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href=3D"http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/">http://themineisthemind.bl=
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href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace">http://www.myspace.com/=
loopsinphasespace</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899">http://www.youtube.com/use=
r/sticky899</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/">http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/</A=
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ReUse</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I'm pleased to announce as CEO Klobuchar mentioned earlier, the =
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Randy=20
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(Albion),=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>ReUse composition information and track listening can be =
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  CT-Collective at <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&amp;albumid=3D=
41"=20
  =
target=3D_blank>http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&amp;a=
lbumid=3D41</A>.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Heartfelt thanks to all the fine musicians&nbsp;that came =
together to=20
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the=20
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CT-Collective, Sir=20
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  =
href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&amp;albumid=3D=
41">ReUse</A>,=20
  an introspective textural aural journey...<BR><BR>music links...<BR><A =

  href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/"=20
  target=3D_blank>www.jimgoodinmusic.com</A><BR><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/"=20
  target=3D_blank>www.chinapaintingmusic.com</A><BR><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic"=20
  target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><A=20
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  target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</A><BR><A=20
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  target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</A><BR><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream"=20
  target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/jindream</A><BR><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic"=20
  target=3D_blank>www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><BR>video=20
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  target=3D_blank>www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</A><BR><BR>social=20
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thx Jeff, much to found in our trash that is crying to make the muse...

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>  Here here Jim! Sir Klobuchar is da man! The whole project sounds and
> looks wonderful. I am looking carefully at my trash before disposal now,
> hehe. Excellent job Jim! I still have yet to participate in one of these,
> it's on my bucket list...
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> "You can't wait for inspiration. You have to go after it with a club."
> =97 Jack London
>
>
> http://jeffduke.org/
> http://virb.com/jeffduke
> http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab
> http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/
> http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
> http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899
> http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
> *To:* loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2009 5:44 PM
> *Subject:* Released - CT-Project ReUse
>
> I'm pleased to announce as CEO Klobuchar mentioned earlier, the newest
> CT-Collective release, titled *(CT)Project ReUse*.  I'm proud to have led
> this project that began as a simple idea on the subway platform last
> September, the idea of a collection of music created using items our soci=
ety
> often throws away, as it's tonal palette.
>
> ReUse features 16 tracks of inventive textural music created by several
> fine folks from this community and beyond.  They are: *Will Romano (USA),
> The Groceries (Wales), Andy Butler (UK), Randy Winchester (USA), Raul Bon=
ell
> (Paisos Catalans), Steve Burnett (USA), Anders Ostberg (Sweden), Daryl Sh=
awn
> (Mexico), Ronny Waernes (Norway), David Cooper Orton (Wales, UK), Ted
> Killian (USA), Stephen Scott (UK), Des Slow (Albion), Rinus van Alebeek
> (Berlin), Steve Moyes (England) and myself (USA)*.
>
> ReUse composition information and track listening can be read/heard on
> CT-Collective at
> http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&albumid=3D41.
>
> Heartfelt thanks to all the fine musicians that came together to make ReU=
se
> happen, to Michael Peters for assistance in setting up the page on
> Collective and to the guy who began it all founding CT-Collective, Sir
> Michael Klobuchar.
>
> Proudly,
>
> Jim
>
> --
> ReUse <http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&albumid=3D41>,=
 an
> introspective textural aural journey...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>


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ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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thx Jeff, much to found in our trash that is crying to make the muse...<br>=
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Jeff Duke <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Here here Jim! Sir Klobuchar is da man=
! The whole project sounds and looks wonderful. I am looking carefully at m=
y trash before disposal now, hehe. Excellent job Jim! I still have yet to p=
articipate in one of these, it&#39;s on my bucket list...</font></div>

<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Jeff</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">&quot;You can&#39;t wait for inspirati=
on. You have to go after it with a club.&quot;<br>=97 Jack London</font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><a href=3D"http://jeffduke.org/" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://jeffduke.org/</a><br><a href=3D"http://virb.com/jeffduk=
e" target=3D"_blank">http://virb.com/jeffduke</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.=
vimeo.com/jeffduke" target=3D"_blank">http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab</a></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><a href=3D"http://themineisthemind.blo=
gspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.youtube.com/user/sticky899</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.sugarat.org/tec=
bab/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/</a></font></div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5">
<blockquote style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5p=
x; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title=
=3D"jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">Jim Goodin</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"loopers-Delight@loop=
ers-delight.com" href=3D"mailto:loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=
=3D"_blank">loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2009 5:44 PM=
</div>
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Released - CT-Project ReUse=
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I&#39;m pleased to announce as CEO Klobuchar mentioned earlier, the ne=
west CT-Collective release, titled <strong>(CT)Project ReUse</strong>.=A0 I=
&#39;m proud to have led this project that began as a simple idea on the su=
bway platform last September, the idea of a collection of music created usi=
ng=A0items our society often throws away, as it&#39;s tonal palette.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>ReUse features 16 tracks of inventive textural music=A0created by=A0se=
veral fine folks from this community=A0and beyond.=A0 They are: <em>Will Ro=
mano (USA), The Groceries (Wales), Andy Butler (UK), Randy Winchester (USA)=
, Raul Bonell (Paisos Catalans), Steve Burnett (USA), Anders Ostberg (Swede=
n), Daryl Shawn (Mexico), Ronny Waernes (Norway), David Cooper Orton (Wales=
, UK), Ted Killian (USA), Stephen Scott (UK), Des Slow (Albion), Rinus van =
Alebeek (Berlin), Steve Moyes (England) and myself (USA)</em>.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>ReUse composition information and track listening can be read/heard on=
 CT-Collective at <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3D=
music&amp;albumid=3D41" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ct-collective.com/inde=
x.cfm?page=3Dmusic&amp;albumid=3D41</a>.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Heartfelt thanks to all the fine musicians=A0that came together to mak=
e=A0ReUse happen, to Michael Peters for assistance in setting up the page o=
n Collective and to the guy who began it all founding CT-Collective, Sir Mi=
chael Klobuchar.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Proudly,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Jim<br clear=3D"all"></div>
<div></div><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?pag=
e=3Dmusic&amp;albumid=3D41" target=3D"_blank">ReUse</a>, an introspective t=
extural aural journey...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jim=
goodinmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.chinap=
aintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" t=
arget=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapa=
intingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank"=
>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspac=
e.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.youtube.co=
m/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al" target=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social netw=
orking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_b=
lank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"=
>
<div></div><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming=
 soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com"=
>www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>

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Greetings to all my colleagues on LD.
I can't be at Carnegie Hall tonight where a lot of my colleagues are
performing Terry Riley's 'In C' but whereas Terry and other foundational an=
d
spiritual contributors to what we do and obsess about are frequently a topi=
c
on the list, I thought I'd humbly offer my latest blog post, full of my
own personal thoughts on the man, the tune, & being 45.

http://bit.ly/oqd8w

If you click, I hope you find some resonance therein, and I wish you all th=
e
very best.

Todd

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=95 At the studio in North Adams, finishing the record, down to New York in
fits and starts for the next  two months.

http://toddreynolds.com
http://twitter.com/digifiddler

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Greetings to all my colleagues on LD.<div><br></div><div>I can&#39;t be at =
Carnegie Hall tonight where a lot of my colleagues are performing Terry Ril=
ey&#39;s &#39;In C&#39; but whereas Terry and other foundational and spirit=
ual contributors to what we do and obsess about are frequently a topic on t=
he list, I thought I&#39;d humbly offer my latest blog post, full of my own=
=A0personal thoughts on the man, the tune, &amp; being 45.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://bit.ly/oqd8w">http://bit.ly/oqd8w</a>=
</div><div><br></div><div>If you click, I hope you find some resonance ther=
ein, and I wish you all the very best.</div><div><br></div><div>Todd</div>
<div><br></div><div>--=A0<br></div><div>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
<br><br>=95 At the studio in North Adams, finishing the record, down to New=
 York in fits and starts for the next =A0two months. <br><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://toddreynolds.com">http://toddreynolds.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://twitter.com/digifiddler">http://twitter.com/digifiddler</=
a><br><br>
</div>

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Thanks Todd! A great, heartfelt piece, I really enjoyed reading it.

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Thanks for the blog post. I thoroughly enjoyed it and best of luck
finishing your album. I look forward to it.


Todd Matthews

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:07 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings to all my colleagues on LD.
> I can't be at Carnegie Hall tonight where a lot of my colleagues are
> performing Terry Riley's 'In C' but whereas Terry and other foundational =
and
> spiritual contributors to what we do and obsess about are frequently a to=
pic
> on the list, I thought I'd humbly offer my latest blog post, full of my
> own=A0personal thoughts on the man, the tune, & being 45.
> http://bit.ly/oqd8w
> If you click, I hope you find some resonance therein, and I wish you all =
the
> very best.
> Todd
> --
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>
> =95 At the studio in North Adams, finishing the record, down to New York =
in
> fits and starts for the next =A0two months.
>
> http://toddreynolds.com
> http://twitter.com/digifiddler
>
>

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On Apr 24, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote:

>> So is this what I get to see on Bob's booth at Namm ??
>> http://tinyurl.com/cxpsxz
>
> I wish.

Bob will, however, presumably be changing Bill Walker's costume for  
his next appearance promoting the Looperlative.

Mark

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On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote:

> I know this has been covered before, but can someone list some of  
> the essential differences between the LP-1 and the EDP? Is there  
> anything the EDP can do that the LP-1 can't? (Yes, I realize  
> "essential" is a subjective term here...I guess when I say  
> "essential", I mean "main", not that that really clears anything  
> up...: )

Last I knew, the EDP could do threshold recording (hit record but it  
doesn't start the loop until you start playing) but the LP-1 did not.

Mark

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My latest video was done via Ninjam. This was done with Jim Goodin in 
Broolyn, NY and myself in Ocala, Fl. It was about 3:00 am. Jim is a gas to 
jam with, he is always an insipration to me. Thanks Jim! Lots of looping 
madness to be had. My part of the video portion had to be substituted 
because of an error on my part so consider me an "avatar" in the vid. : ) 
Hey it's only Rock and Roll...

I hope you enjoy "Duet for Oud and Electronics - A Ninjam Adventure".

http://www.vimeo.com/4318656

Jeff


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At 5:50 PM -0700 4/24/09, Mark Hamburg wrote:
>On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote:
>
>>I know this has been covered before, but can someone list some of 
>>the essential differences between the LP-1 and the EDP? Is there 
>>anything the EDP can do that the LP-1 can't? (Yes, I realize 
>>"essential" is a subjective term here...I guess when I say 
>>"essential", I mean "main", not that that really clears anything 
>>up...: )
>
>Last I knew, the EDP could do threshold recording (hit record but it 
>doesn't start the loop until you start playing) but the LP-1 did not.

Bob's latest two updates (1.36 & 1.37, both released earlier this 
week) dealt with Threshold Recording, IIRC.  Score another one for 
updateable firmware!  ;)

	--m.
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> Last I knew, the EDP could do threshold recording (hit record but it  
> doesn't start the loop until you start playing) but the LP-1 did not.

As of this week, the LP1 can.

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Wow, Jeff n' Jim!  Really love this.  Cool, sneaky morphs of the
various vid panels too.  Very amusing.  Ninjam could be the future . .
. -m

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> My latest video was done via Ninjam. This was done with Jim Goodin in Bro=
olyn, NY and myself in Ocala, Fl. It was about 3:00 am. Jim is a gas to jam=
 with, he is always an insipration to me. Thanks Jim! Lots of looping madne=
ss to be had. My part of the video portion had to be substituted because of=
 an error on my part so consider me an "avatar" in the vid. : ) Hey it's on=
ly Rock and Roll...
>
> I hope you enjoy "Duet for Oud and Electronics - A Ninjam Adventure".
>
> http://www.vimeo.com/4318656
>
> Jeff

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Yes, i agree with the analogy,but do you have your sand googles on?


> Does that explain it?
> 
> How about
> 
> The Looperlative is the Rolls Royce of looping,
> the EDP is a cross between a Dune Buggy and hitching a lift
> with Matthias Grob 
> andy butler
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jeff Shirkey wrote:
> > I know this has been covered before, but can someone
> list some of the essential differences between the LP-1 and
> the EDP? Is there anything the EDP can do that the LP-1
> can't? (Yes, I realize "essential" is a subjective term
> here...I guess when I say "essential", I mean "main", not
> that that really clears anything up...: )
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


      

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wow,is this included in the new upgrade?

 So is this what I get to see on
> Bob's booth at Namm ??

> > http://tinyurl.com/cxpsxz



      

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THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH:                      http://soundscapes.us/amfm
=======================================================================
My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, April 25 at 6:00 am
(EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00).  That's less than two hours from now.  I will
continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler
CDs in Phase 1.

I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the
show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an
eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with
Progressive Rock.

Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at
http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090423.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #629                April 23, 2009.

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on The .  The Featured CD 
at Midnight was Other Side of Odra by
Ololiuqui on the Ricochet Dream label.

Ricochet Gathering:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#apr


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Polaris              Voltage Controlled   Bakground Stories (Ricochet
                       Inspirations         Dream)
Free System Projekt  Part II *            Narrow Lane (none)
Wolfram Spyra and    Acht 39              Achtundsechig 24 (Manikin)
  Chris Lang
Ian Boddy            Yesterdays Memories  Slide (DiN)
Steve Roach and      Spirit Dome *        Spirit Dome-Live Archive
  vidnaObmana                               (Projekt)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Oloiuqui             Strefa 50            Other Side of Odra (Ricochet
                                            Dream)
Oloiuqui             Try To Find          Other Side of Odra (Ricochet
                                            Dream)
Oloiuqui             Backline             Other Side of Odra (Ricochet
                                            Dream)
Oloiuqui             Beautiful            Other Side of Odra (Ricochet
                                            Dream)
Oloiuqui             Flightchekker        Other Side of Odra (Ricochet
                                            Dream)
Oloiuqui             Djara                Other Side of Odra (Ricochet
                                            Dream)
Oloiuqui             Supply               Other Side of Odra (Ricochet
                                            Dream)
Oloiuqui             Fire                 Other Side of Odra (Ricochet
                                            Dream)
Oloiuqui             Rising               Other Side of Odra (Ricochet
                                            Dream)

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on the
Ricochet Gathering.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be The Jelenia
Gora Sessions by Sunya Beat on the Ricochet Dream label.


Bill
=======================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in
Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on
93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD
Digital Radio on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels
RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml
Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls
To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This
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Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com
RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml
Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml

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>andy wrote
>> On the other hand the EDP has a much more interactive/organic user 
>> interface,
>> with an extensive catalog of user tricks possible with just 7 
>> multi-function buttons.
Bob Amstadt wrote: 
> Organic?  I think the EDP is wonderful device but I found its user 
> interface to be anything but organic.  There is definitely a learning 
> curve to the unit.  I think the reality is that you guys have been using 
> the EDP for so long that it has become second nature to you, but it is 
> not an easy device for somebody new to it.

Well, I don't know why organic should equate with easy, in any case
the EDP isn't exactly difficult to for a beginner.
Perhaps I should explain what I find organic about it.
Handily the *really easy* buttons are marked Record, Overdub.
>From those 2 buttons you can
1) Record your loop, going directly into Overdub, or not.
2) Overdub by switching it on/off or hold down for duration of Overdub
3) Re-Record the loop starting with a single press
4) Erase the loop.
So that's an incredibly neat implementation of 2 buttons.
Obviously, the EDP has 7 standard buttons,  which is probably
3 or 4 buttons more than "easy"....but there's no need  to
learn them all at once. If you do learn them, they turn out
to be just as well thought out as the first 2.
The EDP is based on the principle that it's easy to start with,
but offers options to be explored. Matthias deliberately left
open every possible option for exploration, thinking that
*someone* might want to use it, the exact opposite of a Roland/Boss
type approach.
It's the well thought out interface that makes the edp organic,
(as well as the fact it doesn't define the start/end of the loop
 if you don't want it to..it's cyclic). 
The EDP isn't designed
to create an easy way to play your old music, it's designed for
the creation of new music that wouldn't exist otherwise.


> 
>> Apart from the EDP slice'n'dice/loopwindow/SUSfunction madness,
> 
> This is one of the items that you'll always have to get an EDP if you 
> want to do it.  I have no intention of recreating this.  It is a 
> beautiful accident.

In the loop3 software, Loopwindowing was an accident, then became deliberate
and improved in loop4.
All the other EDP madness is designed in, some of it at the suggestion
of LDers like Andre Lafosse.

> 
> Certainly I'll continue to add new and cool features to the LP1, but it 
> is not an EDP clone nor did I ever intend it to be.  

I'd always imagined it started as 8 stereo DL4s in a box.

> My recommendation is buy one of each.  They are different animals and 
> both very cool.

I reckon the Looperlative is the looper of choice for anyone who can afford it,
unless the EDP concept draws them in.

> 
> Bob Amstadt
> Looperlative Audio Products
> 
andy
Kind of Involved in EDP Type Stuff on Occasion  

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:45 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> The EDP isn't designed
> to create an easy way to play your old music, it's designed for
> the creation of new music that wouldn't exist otherwise.


Tremendously inspiring words! :-)
Right on, Andy!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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For all of you just in front of the computer:

The "MoinSound Studio Session" announced two days ago has just started
- expect some take on my "R=FCbezahl" programme, and, if technology
allows, a surprise guest during the show!

See you there!

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-moinsound-studio-sessions

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In a message dated 4/24/09 8:47:32 PM, mark@grubmah.com writes:


> Bob will, however, presumably be changing Bill Walker's costume for=A0
> his next appearance promoting the Looperlative.
> 





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I'm there n' watching! so incredibly cool, that tech has finally gotten 
to the point of allowing this.

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> For all of you just in front of the computer:
>
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> Bob will, however, presumably be changing Bill Walker's costume for=A0
> his next appearance promoting the Looperlative.
> 

young bill is way sexier than that sweetie, i've seen pictures.....in fact=
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Thought some of you might like this.
Never enough gear.

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In a message dated 4/24/09 7:42:34 PM, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com writes:


> Sir Klobuchar is da man!
> 

i prefer KING KLOBUCHAR.....:).....i am but a very small cog in the mighty 
music machine of the CT-COLLECTIVE.....THANKS and KUDOS to all 
members.....this applies mostly to CHIEF OVERLORD AND KEEPER OF THE FLAME, MISTER MICHAEL 
PETERS whose work on the CT website is an ongoing labour of love and 
beauty.....it was absoultly wonderful to see some old LDers become new CTers on 
this outing.....so please come and join us, become a member of a project, 
start a project or just give a listen.....I WANT MORE MUSIC!!!!!.....:)m



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In a message dated 4/24/09 7:42:34 PM, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com writes:<BR=
>
<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px=
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=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2">Sir Klobuchar=
 is da man!<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANS=
SERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=
=3D"2">i prefer KING KLOBUCHAR.....:).....i am but a very small cog in the=
 mighty music machine of the CT-COLLECTIVE.....THANKS and KUDOS to all mem=
bers.....this applies mostly to CHIEF OVERLORD AND KEEPER OF THE FLAME, MI=
STER MICHAEL PETERS whose work on the CT website is an ongoing labour of=
 love and beauty.....it was absoultly wonderful to see some old LDers beco=
me new CTers on this outing.....so please come and join us, become a membe=
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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Andr=C3=A9 Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com> =
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> Thought some of you might like this.
> Never enough gear.
>
> http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/exclusive-video-matt-bellamys-new-=
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Yep, nice peep. Thanks!

Greetings from Sweden

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It's pretty cool. It gives the Moog Guitar steady competition. It will be 
interesting to see what mapping ideas users will come up with in the next 
while.

Ricky

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> Thought some of you might like this.
> Never enough gear.
>
> http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/exclusive-video-matt-bellamys-new-signature-guitar-204375
>
>
> Andre
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Great to see Rainer live in his skinny blackclad glory, trombone and 
voice w/processing aplenty!. Really cool to hear so much from 
straightforward sound sources. let me again plug his last record "Wie 
groß ist die Luft" done in this vein, which I'm still enjoying.

I love this live remote gig thing, we've just got to figure out a good 
way to collaborate and it's going to be the rage. Watching Jeff Duke now 
- http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab.

Daryl Shawn
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www.chinapaintingmusic.com

>
>> For all of you just in front of the computer:
>>
>> The "MoinSound Studio Session" announced two days ago has just started
>> - expect some take on my "Rübezahl" programme, and, if technology
>> allows, a surprise guest during the show!

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Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get the word 
about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the end 
there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started thinking about 
what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this, Real 
show at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me to co 
host his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the button to 
join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He is 
always on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on this thing 
sooner or later.

peace,

Jeff

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Great to see Rainer live in his skinny blackclad glory, trombone and voice 
> w/processing aplenty!. Really cool to hear so much from straightforward 
> sound sources. let me again plug his last record "Wie groß ist die Luft" 
> done in this vein, which I'm still enjoying.
>
> I love this live remote gig thing, we've just got to figure out a good way 
> to collaborate and it's going to be the rage. Watching Jeff Duke now - 
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>>
>>> For all of you just in front of the computer:
>>>
>>> The "MoinSound Studio Session" announced two days ago has just started
>>> - expect some take on my "Rübezahl" programme, and, if technology
>>> allows, a surprise guest during the show!
>
> 

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Hey Jeff - That was me!  (the other one).  Nice stuff, I enjoyed  it alot.=
  
I'm getting ready for 2 mates to show up at my place to work on  some 
things we're going to do at the Warper Party here in NY on May 6.   Inspir=
ational 
to watch you and Rainer playing before we get started.  I  guess someday=
 
I'll learn the Ustream thing and do a live show too.  Thanks  again.
 
Harry
 
Harry  Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th  Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212) 989-2908  

 
In a message dated 4/25/2009 12:42:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jeff_d@embarqmail.com writes:

Thanks  for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get the wor=
d 
about  time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the end 
there,  This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started thinking 
about 
what  I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this, Real=
 
show  at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me to=
 co 
host  his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the button=
 
to  
join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He is =
 
always on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on this  
thing 
sooner or later.

peace,

Jeff

----- Original  Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
To:  <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009  12:21 PM
Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now  online!


> Great to see Rainer live in his skinny blackclad  glory, trombone and 
voice 
> w/processing aplenty!. Really cool to hear  so much from straightforward=
 
> sound sources. let me again plug his  last record "Wie gro=DF ist die Lu=
ft" 
> done in this vein, which I'm  still enjoying.
>
> I love this live remote gig thing, we've just  got to figure out a good=
 
way 
> to collaborate and it's going to be the  rage. Watching Jeff Duke now -=
 
>  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab.
>
> Daryl Shawn
>  www.swanwelder.com
>  www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>>
>>> For all of you  just in front of the computer:
>>>
>>> The "MoinSound  Studio Session" announced two days ago has just starte=
d
>>> -  expect some take on my "R=FCbezahl" programme, and, if  technology
>>> allows, a surprise guest during the  show!
>
>  



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<DIV>Hey Jeff - That was me!&nbsp; (the other one).&nbsp; Nice stuff, I en=
joyed 
it alot.&nbsp; I'm getting ready for 2 mates to show up at my place to wor=
k on 
some things we're going to do at the Warper Party here in NY on May 6.&nbs=
p; 
Inspirational to watch you and Rainer playing before we get started.&nbsp;=
 I 
guess someday I'll learn the Ustream thing and do a live show too.&nbsp;=
 Thanks 
again.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" PTSIZE=3D"1=
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Floor<BR>New York, N.Y. 10013<BR>(212) 989-2908 
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<DIV>In a message dated 4/25/2009 12:42:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
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e=3D2>Thanks 
  for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get the word <BR>=
about 
  time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the end <BR>the=
re, 
  This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started thinking about <BR=
>what 
  I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this, Real <BR>=
show 
  at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me to co <B=
R>host 
  his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the button to=
 
  <BR>join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He=
 is 
  <BR>always on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on thi=
s 
  thing <BR>sooner or later.<BR><BR>peace,<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>----- Origin=
al 
  Message ----- <BR>From: "Daryl Shawn" &lt;highhorse@mhorse.com&gt;<BR>To=
: 
  &lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt;<BR>Sent: Saturday, April 25,=
 2009 
  12:21 PM<BR>Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now 
  online!<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Great to see Rainer live in his skinny blackclad=
 
  glory, trombone and voice <BR>&gt; w/processing aplenty!. Really cool to=
 hear 
  so much from straightforward <BR>&gt; sound sources. let me again plug=
 his 
  last record "Wie gro=DF ist die Luft" <BR>&gt; done in this vein, which=
 I'm 
  still enjoying.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I love this live remote gig thing, we've=
 just 
  got to figure out a good way <BR>&gt; to collaborate and it's going to=
 be the 
  rage. Watching Jeff Duke now - <BR>&gt; 
  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Daryl Shawn<BR>&=
gt; 
  www.swanwelder.com<BR>&gt; 
  www.chinapaintingmusic.com<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; For all=
 of you 
  just in front of the computer:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; The "Moin=
Sound 
  Studio Session" announced two days ago has just started<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
 - 
  expect some take on my "R=FCbezahl" programme, and, if 
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On Apr 24, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote:

>> Last I knew, the EDP could do threshold recording (hit record but  
>> it  doesn't start the loop until you start playing) but the LP-1  
>> did not.
>
> As of this week, the LP1 can.

Cool. Time to go check my toy budget...

Mark


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Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy simultaneous 
low rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing my mind. It 
was most amusing to watch you come across the room and sit down to type 
too, right in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the next show.

Daryl Shawn
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www.chinapaintingmusic.com
 
> Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get the 
> word about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at 
> the end there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started 
> thinking about what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me 
> to do this, Real show at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer 
> for inviting me to co host his gig, we tested some yesterday but by 
> the time i found the button to join it was too late. You sounded great 
> as usual Rainer good set! He is always on the cutting edge and I know 
> collaberation is coming on this thing sooner or later.

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Hey Harry, it's very simple to do the Ustream thing,. Much easier than =
Ninjam IMHO. Al I did was buy a 50$ webcam and plug my audio into my =
computer bypassing the cam mic. instant on. Thanks for watching glad you =
dug my little impromtu mini show!

Jeff
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 12:46 PM
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  Hey Jeff - That was me!  (the other one).  Nice stuff, I enjoyed it =
alot.  I'm getting ready for 2 mates to show up at my place to work on =
some things we're going to do at the Warper Party here in NY on May 6.  =
Inspirational to watch you and Rainer playing before we get started.  I =
guess someday I'll learn the Ustream thing and do a live show too.  =
Thanks again.

  Harry

  Harry Weinberg, Esq.
  Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
  11 Beach Street - 8th Floor
  New York, N.Y. 10013
  (212) 989-2908=20

  In a message dated 4/25/2009 12:42:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =
jeff_d@embarqmail.com writes:
    Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get =
the word=20
    about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the =
end=20
    there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started =
thinking about=20
    what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this, =
Real=20
    show at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me =
to co=20
    host his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the =
button to=20
    join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He =
is=20
    always on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on =
this thing=20
    sooner or later.

    peace,

    Jeff

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
    To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 12:21 PM
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    > Great to see Rainer live in his skinny blackclad glory, trombone =
and voice=20
    > w/processing aplenty!. Really cool to hear so much from =
straightforward=20
    > sound sources. let me again plug his last record "Wie gro=DF ist =
die Luft"=20
    > done in this vein, which I'm still enjoying.
    >
    > I love this live remote gig thing, we've just got to figure out a =
good way=20
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now -=20
    > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopslab.
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    > Daryl Shawn
    > www.swanwelder.com
    > www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    >
    >>
    >>> For all of you just in front of the computer:
    >>>
    >>> The "MoinSound Studio Session" announced two days ago has just =
started
    >>> - expect some take on my "R=FCbezahl" programme, and, if =
technology
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    >
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Haha, If I forget and leave the mic on with the computer speaks on at the 
same time all kind of craziness happens. this live stuff is way different 
than sitting here nooding for hours and the picking out the best for 
"release". It's been a long time...oh i guess i should say hey Daryl I 
practiced that for days to get it just right! lol

Jeff

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> Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy simultaneous 
> low rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing my mind. It was 
> most amusing to watch you come across the room and sit down to type too, 
> right in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the next show.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>> Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get the 
>> word about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the 
>> end there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started thinking 
>> about what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this, 
>> Real show at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me 
>> to co host his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the 
>> button to join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good 
>> set! He is always on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming 
>> on this thing sooner or later.
>
> 

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the EDP is just.... addictive!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A-=
-- On Sat, 4/25/09, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:=0A=0A> From=
: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> Subject: Re: Looperlative  vs ED=
P=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Cc: "Matthias Grob" <mati=
grob@gmail.com>=0A> Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 6:45 AM=0A> > andy wrot=
e=0A> >> On the other hand the EDP has a much more=0A> interactive/organic =
user interface,=0A> >> with an extensive catalog of user tricks possible=0A=
> with just 7 multi-function buttons.=0A> Bob Amstadt wrote: =0A> > Organic=
?=A0 I think the EDP is wonderful device but=0A> I found its user interface=
 to be anything but organic.=A0=0A> There is definitely a learning curve to=
 the unit.=A0 I=0A> think the reality is that you guys have been using the =
EDP=0A> for so long that it has become second nature to you, but it=0A> is =
not an easy device for somebody new to it.=0A> =0A> Well, I don't know why =
organic should equate with easy, in=0A> any case=0A> the EDP isn't exactly =
difficult to for a beginner.=0A> Perhaps I should explain what I find organ=
ic about it.=0A> Handily the *really easy* buttons are marked Record,=0A> O=
verdub.=0A> From those 2 buttons you can=0A> 1) Record your loop, going dir=
ectly into Overdub, or not.=0A> 2) Overdub by switching it on/off or hold d=
own for duration=0A> of Overdub=0A> 3) Re-Record the loop starting with a s=
ingle press=0A> 4) Erase the loop.=0A> So that's an incredibly neat impleme=
ntation of 2 buttons.=0A> Obviously, the EDP has 7 standard buttons,=A0 whi=
ch is=0A> probably=0A> 3 or 4 buttons more than "easy"....but there's no=0A=
> need=A0 to=0A> learn them all at once. If you do learn them, they turn=0A=
> out=0A> to be just as well thought out as the first 2.=0A> The EDP is bas=
ed on the principle that it's easy to start=0A> with,=0A> but offers option=
s to be explored. Matthias deliberately=0A> left=0A> open every possible op=
tion for exploration, thinking that=0A> *someone* might want to use it, the=
 exact opposite of a=0A> Roland/Boss=0A> type approach.=0A> It's the well t=
hought out interface that makes the edp=0A> organic,=0A> (as well as the fa=
ct it doesn't define the start/end of the=0A> loop=0A> if you don't want it=
 to..it's cyclic). The EDP isn't=0A> designed=0A> to create an easy way to =
play your old music, it's designed=0A> for=0A> the creation of new music th=
at wouldn't exist otherwise.=0A> =0A> =0A> > =0A> >> Apart from the EDP=0A>=
 slice'n'dice/loopwindow/SUSfunction madness,=0A> > =0A> > This is one of t=
he items that you'll always have to=0A> get an EDP if you want to do it.=A0=
 I have no intention=0A> of recreating this.=A0 It is a beautiful accident.=
=0A> =0A> In the loop3 software, Loopwindowing was an accident, then=0A> be=
came deliberate=0A> and improved in loop4.=0A> All the other EDP madness is=
 designed in, some of it at the=0A> suggestion=0A> of LDers like Andre Lafo=
sse.=0A> =0A> > =0A> > Certainly I'll continue to add new and cool features=
=0A> to the LP1, but it is not an EDP clone nor did I ever intend=0A> it to=
 be.=A0 =0A> =0A> I'd always imagined it started as 8 stereo DL4s in a box.=
=0A> =0A> > My recommendation is buy one of each.=A0 They are=0A> different=
 animals and both very cool.=0A> =0A> I reckon the Looperlative is the loop=
er of choice for=0A> anyone who can afford it,=0A> unless the EDP concept d=
raws them in.=0A> =0A> > =0A> > Bob Amstadt=0A> > Looperlative Audio Produc=
ts=0A> > =0A> andy=0A> Kind of Involved in EDP Type Stuff on Occasion=A0 =
=0A> =0A=0A=0A      

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Thanks to all who replied.

I'm basically trying to decide whether or not to sell my EDP, which  
I've hardly used. On the one hand, I want to hang onto it because I  
know they are no longer made and because I now know that it does have  
some unique features. On the other hand, if I ever want the "Rolls  
Royce" of loopers, the LD-1, it should be able to do nearly all that  
the EDP can do, so maybe I should just let it go.


Tough decisions. Thanks.

Jeff

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>  so maybe I should just let it go.

My philosophy with gear is to get exactly what you need to fits within your 
budget.  If I had the money, I would have at least one of every looping 
device that is out there because they all were unique and worth having.

Bob Amstadt 

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this is exactly what I did. after many years and many edps, I came
across the lp1. sold my edp, picked up an lp1 and never looked back. I
was sold as much by the potential of the looperlative as by it's
current features.

On Saturday, April 25, 2009, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon.net> wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied.
>
> I'm basically trying to decide whether or not to sell my EDP, which I've =
hardly used. On the one hand, I want to hang onto it because I know they ar=
e no longer made and because I now know that it does have some unique featu=
res. On the other hand, if I ever want the "Rolls Royce" of loopers, the LD=
-1, it should be able to do nearly all that the EDP can do, so maybe I shou=
ld just let it go.
>
>
> Tough decisions. Thanks.
>
> Jeff
>
>

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon.net> wrote:
> so maybe I should just let it go

You could give it to someone that you think will make great use of
those unique features!

per

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Subject: Re: Looperlative  vs EDP
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> From those 2 buttons you can
> 1) Record your loop, going directly into Overdub, or not.
> 2) Overdub by switching it on/off or hold down for duration of Overdub
> 3) Re-Record the loop starting with a single press
> 4) Erase the loop.

Same is mostly true about the LP1.  There is a RECORD/OVERDUB button and 
there is a PLAY/STOP.  RECORD/OVERDUB is a three way toggle.  It starts a 
record.  It can end a record and put you in overdub.  It can switch from 
overdub to play.  It can switch from play to overdub.  The PLAY/STOP button 
can be used to end a record or overdub and leave you in play mode.  It can 
toggle between play and stop.  Hitting RECORD/OVERDUB on a stopped track 
erases the old track and starts recording again.

But then again, I hate comparing the two units because they are completely 
different animals.  The EDP is beautiful in what it does and I like to think 
that the LP1 offers people something amazing as well.  Both units offer a 
depth of features to keep musicians exploring the limits for a good long 
time.  Really, I am a fan of the EDP and I certainly think that Mattias and 
Kim are both wonderful people.

Bob Amstadt

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> You could give it to someone that you think will make great use of
> those unique features!

If by "give" you mean "sell", then, yes, I am considering it. ;)

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:
> hate comparing the two units because they are completely different animals.

Indeed true. I'd say trying to compare them is a side effect of not
really knowing what you can do with them in the first place ;-))

I have been using the EDP very much but my recent tool of choice is
Mobius + laptop. I look at Mobius feature-set as somewhere in between
the EDP and the LP1. But with less cables and more open for a personal
configuration.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Hello Fellow Loopers of the world!

I have been having some difficulties using audio interfaces, Guitar Rig etc. all through my USB Hub.  I have a small powered Hub, but I still have to re-plug things in or directly into my imac for things to work correctly.  I was hoping someone would have some suggestions on an economical powered USB Hub with a solid track record!

Let me know, I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks a bunch!    Andy


You Can Find My Music here:
www.untitledvisons.com
http://www.reverbnation.com/untitledvisions

It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe!

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This is cool. My old friend Lyle Workman had something like this built a =
few
years back while he was playing with Beck Hanson, made by MJ guitars
http://www.mjguitar.com/, if you scroll down the page for custom work, =
you
can see it. I believe he said the KAOS pad was somewhat temperamental. =
Cool
possibilities though.... Now time to go get my halter top, short shorts =
and
Ugg boots on for my "Beach Hotties" photo shoot..... Did I mention the
bikini waxing I'm having done before hand?
 Bill=20

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Thought some of you might like this.
Never enough gear.

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/exclusive-video-matt-bellamys-new-=
sig
nature-guitar-204375


Andre
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Line 6 Guitar Port

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On 25 Apr 2009, at 19:11, Andrew Schoen wrote:

> Hello Fellow Loopers of the world!
>
> I have been having some difficulties using audio interfaces, Guitar  
> Rig etc. all through my USB Hub.  I have a small powered Hub, but I  
> still have to re-plug things in or directly into my imac for things  
> to work correctly.  I was hoping someone would have some  
> suggestions on an economical powered USB Hub with a solid track  
> record!
>
> Let me know, I would greatly appreciate it!
>
> Thanks a bunch!    Andy
>
>
> You Can Find My Music here:
> www.untitledvisons.com
> http://www.reverbnation.com/untitledvisions
>
> It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe!
>


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The LP1 is an awesome animal. Nothing comes close. The only thing i miss from the EDP is the convenience of the Multiply function.
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From: Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com>
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> From those 2 buttons you can
> 1) Record your loop, going directly into Overdub, or not.
> 2) Overdub by switching it on/off or hold down for duration of Overdub
> 3) Re-Record the loop starting with a single press
> 4) Erase the loop.

Same is mostly true about the LP1.  There is a RECORD/OVERDUB button and 
there is a PLAY/STOP.  RECORD/OVERDUB is a three way toggle.  It starts a 
record.  It can end a record and put you in overdub.  It can switch from 
overdub to play.  It can switch from play to overdub.  The PLAY/STOP button 
can be used to end a record or overdub and leave you in play mode.  It can 
toggle between play and stop.  Hitting RECORD/OVERDUB on a stopped track 
erases the old track and starts recording again.

But then again, I hate comparing the two units because they are completely 
different animals.  The EDP is beautiful in what it does and I like to think 
that the LP1 offers people something amazing as well.  Both units offer a 
depth of features to keep musicians exploring the limits for a good long 
time.  Really, I am a fan of the EDP and I certainly think that Mattias and 
Kim are both wonderful people.

Bob Amstadt



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> The LP1 is an awesome animal. Nothing comes close. The only thing i miss from the EDP is the convenience of the Multiply function.

Which, actually, is something I've come to use a lot in all of its variants ;).

Seriously: are there any users here who could compare Looperlative,
EDP and Mobius? Krispen, I think you've used all of them, but to which
extent? Anyone else?

            Rainer

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Sorry I missed both of you today.  If I get my iSight connection figured out
I'm going to be chasing the bandwagon tomorrow morning (Sunday AM) at 11
EST.  My stage will be http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11

Matt if you see this I think you did iSight cam no?  I read the how to on
this and tried it briefly yesterday and didn't connect.  If you are around
and can shed light appreciated, would like to feed sep USB audio which think
I'm hip on doing.
I echo Daryl's words in fact it would be great if we could bring a CP show
into uStream so maybe that will be in the works as well as other
collaborations.  Jeff and I have done as I think was seen canned video
NinJam so uStream seems to be merely bringing two accounts together no?

If I get my connections solid I'll send out another promo re tomorrow morn.
 The technology is in a sense answering prayers for alternative venue opts
rather exciting.

Best to all

jim

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Haha, If I forget and leave the mic on with the computer speaks on at the
> same time all kind of craziness happens. this live stuff is way different
> than sitting here nooding for hours and the picking out the best for
> "release". It's been a long time...oh i guess i should say hey Daryl I
> practiced that for days to get it just right! lol
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now online!
>
>
>  Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy simultaneous
>> low rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing my mind. It was
>> most amusing to watch you come across the room and sit down to type too,
>> right in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the next show.
>>
>> Daryl Shawn
>> www.swanwelder.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>>
>>  Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get the
>>> word about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the end
>>> there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started thinking about
>>> what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this, Real
>>> show at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me to co
>>> host his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the button to
>>> join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He is
>>> always on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on this thing
>>> sooner or later.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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at 11 EST. =A0My stage will be=A0<div><a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/chan=
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for alternative venue opts rather exciting.</div><div><br></div><div>Best t=
o all</div>
<div><br></div><div>jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, 2=
009 at 1:12 PM, Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@em=
barqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex;">
Haha, If I forget and leave the mic on with the computer speaks on at the s=
ame time all kind of craziness happens. this live stuff is way different th=
an sitting here nooding for hours and the picking out the best for &quot;re=
lease&quot;. It&#39;s been a long time...oh i guess i should say hey Daryl =
I practiced that for days to get it just right! lol<div class=3D"im">
<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Daryl Shawn&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:highhorse@mhorse.com" target=3D"_blank">highhorse@mhorse.com</a>&gt;<=
br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br></div>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:01 PM<div class=3D"im"><br>
Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now online!<br>
<br>
<br>
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tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy simultaneous lo=
w rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing my mind. It was mos=
t amusing to watch you come across the room and sit down to type too, right=
 in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the next show.<br>

<br>
Daryl Shawn<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.swanwelder.com" target=3D"_blank">www.swanwelder.com<=
/a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapa=
intingmusic.com</a><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn&#39;t get the w=
ord about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the end =
there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started thinking about=
 what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this, Real s=
how at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me to co h=
ost his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the button to=
 join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He is al=
ways on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on this thing s=
ooner or later.<br>

</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an i=
ntrospective textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br=
><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a=
 href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><=
br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
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nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>
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Per sez.."But with less cables and more open for a personal configuration."

 

Yes .four fewer cables to be exact.but they are zero latency cables ;-)

As far as openness to personal configuration, I would venture to say my
looperlative is configured differently than Rick's, or Steve Lawson's or Bob
Amstadt's, and that the open ended nature of the architecture is similar to
a computer based platform, though obviously not as sophisticated in the
realm of running scripts and automated commands.  As it relates to the EDP,
I agree they are different animals, and I never spent enough time with the
EDP to get the midi clock working to my satisfaction, or delve in to the
intricacies of its signature capabilities, to offer any educated assessment.
I have spent many hours with the Looperlative and I can tell you that it is
a wonderful musical tool with its own bag of tricks and after nearly 3
years, I'm still learning new things to do with it and new features to
explore. Bob, as you might have figured out is a righteous Dude, who builds
the LP-1's one a time in his home work shop, and actually listens to his
client base and implements new features based on consensus of demand. I'm
not ready to move to a lap top like many of you have already done, and this
is the only product on the market that rivals that kind of sophistication,
with the added benefit that in the unlikely event you need to reboot the
LP-1, it takes less than 10 seconds to power on. You wouldn't even need to
tell a joke to cover the dead time! Did I mention the zero latency cables?

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New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Yes &#8230;four =
fewer cables
to be exact&#8230;but they are zero latency cables =
;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>As far as openness =
to
personal configuration, I would venture to say my looperlative is =
configured differently
than Rick&#8217;s, or Steve Lawson&#8217;s or Bob Amstadt&#8217;s, and =
that the
open ended nature of the architecture is similar to a computer based =
platform,
though obviously not as sophisticated in the realm of running scripts =
and
automated commands.&nbsp; As it relates to the EDP, I agree they are =
different
animals, and I never spent enough time with the EDP to get the midi =
clock
working to my satisfaction, or delve in to the intricacies of its =
signature
capabilities, to offer any educated assessment. &nbsp;I have spent many =
hours
with the Looperlative and I can tell you that it is a wonderful musical =
tool
with its own bag of tricks and after nearly 3 years, I&#8217;m still =
learning
new things to do with it and new features to explore. Bob, as you might =
have
figured out is a righteous Dude, who builds the LP-1&#8217;s one a time =
in his
home work shop, and actually listens to his client base and implements =
new
features based on consensus of demand. I&#8217;m not ready to move to a =
lap top
like many of you have already done, and this is the only product on the =
market
that rivals that kind of sophistication, with the added benefit that in =
the
unlikely event you need to reboot the LP-1, it takes less than 10 =
seconds to
power on. You wouldn&#8217;t even need to tell a joke to cover the dead =
time!
Did I mention the zero latency cables?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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> i was there when he (Billy the Walker) turned his "sexiness" loose.....amazing!....:)m

However, the cleanup afterward was really, really troubling . . .
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so I just did a test and special thanks to Matt for popping in and
confirming that I was making it across the pond.  I'll be on officially
tomorrow morning April 26th at 11am est with the first install of Sunday
Morning at 11, come around and have coffee as they say... los link is
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11
jim

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>wrote:

> Sorry I missed both of you today.  If I get my iSight connection figured
> out I'm going to be chasing the bandwagon tomorrow morning (Sunday AM) at 11
> EST.  My stage will be http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11
>
> Matt if you see this I think you did iSight cam no?  I read the how to on
> this and tried it briefly yesterday and didn't connect.  If you are around
> and can shed light appreciated, would like to feed sep USB audio which think
> I'm hip on doing.
> I echo Daryl's words in fact it would be great if we could bring a CP show
> into uStream so maybe that will be in the works as well as other
> collaborations.  Jeff and I have done as I think was seen canned video
> NinJam so uStream seems to be merely bringing two accounts together no?
>
> If I get my connections solid I'll send out another promo re tomorrow morn.
>  The technology is in a sense answering prayers for alternative venue opts
> rather exciting.
>
> Best to all
>
> jim
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Haha, If I forget and leave the mic on with the computer speaks on at the
>> same time all kind of craziness happens. this live stuff is way different
>> than sitting here nooding for hours and the picking out the best for
>> "release". It's been a long time...oh i guess i should say hey Daryl I
>> practiced that for days to get it just right! lol
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now online!
>>
>>
>>  Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy simultaneous
>>> low rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing my mind. It was
>>> most amusing to watch you come across the room and sit down to type too,
>>> right in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the next show.
>>>
>>> Daryl Shawn
>>> www.swanwelder.com
>>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>>>
>>>  Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get the
>>>> word about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the end
>>>> there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started thinking about
>>>> what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this, Real
>>>> show at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me to co
>>>> host his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the button to
>>>> join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He is
>>>> always on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on this thing
>>>> sooner or later.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>


-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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so I just did a test and special thanks to Matt for popping in and confirmi=
ng that I was making it across the pond. =A0I&#39;ll be on officially tomor=
row morning April 26th at 11am est with the first install of Sunday Morning=
 at 11, come around and have coffee as they say... los link is=A0<a href=3D=
"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11">http://www.ustream.tv/=
channel/sunday-morning-at-11</a><div>
<br></div><div>jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 a=
t 3:53 PM, Jim Goodin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusi=
c@gmail.com">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex;">
Sorry I missed both of you today. =A0If I get my iSight connection figured =
out I&#39;m going to be chasing the bandwagon tomorrow morning (Sunday AM) =
at 11 EST. =A0My stage will be=A0<div><a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/chan=
nel/sunday-morning-at-11" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/s=
unday-morning-at-11</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>Matt if you see this I think you did iSight cam no? =A0=
I read the how to on this and tried it briefly yesterday and didn&#39;t con=
nect. =A0If you are around and can shed light appreciated, would like to fe=
ed sep USB audio which think I&#39;m hip on doing. =A0<div>

<br></div><div>I echo Daryl&#39;s words in fact it would be great if we cou=
ld bring a CP show into uStream so maybe that will be in the works as well =
as other collaborations. =A0Jeff and I have done as I think was seen canned=
 video NinJam so uStream seems to be merely bringing two accounts together =
no?</div>

<div><br></div><div>If I get my connections solid I&#39;ll send out another=
 promo re tomorrow morn. =A0The technology is in a sense answering prayers =
for alternative venue opts rather exciting.</div><div><br></div><div>Best t=
o all</div>

<div><br></div><div>jim<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeff_d@em=
barqmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Haha, If I forget and leave the mic on with the computer speaks on at the s=
ame time all kind of craziness happens. this live stuff is way different th=
an sitting here nooding for hours and the picking out the best for &quot;re=
lease&quot;. It&#39;s been a long time...oh i guess i should say hey Daryl =
I practiced that for days to get it just right! lol<div>

<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Daryl Shawn&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:highhorse@mhorse.com" target=3D"_blank">highhorse@mhorse.com</a>&gt;<=
br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br></div>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:01 PM<div><br>
Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now online!<br>
<br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy simultaneous lo=
w rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing my mind. It was mos=
t amusing to watch you come across the room and sit down to type too, right=
 in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the next show.<br>


<br>
Daryl Shawn<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.swanwelder.com" target=3D"_blank">www.swanwelder.com<=
/a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapa=
intingmusic.com</a><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn&#39;t get the w=
ord about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the end =
there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started thinking about=
 what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this, Real s=
how at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me to co h=
ost his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the button to=
 join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He is al=
ways on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on this thing s=
ooner or later.<br>


</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div>-- <br=
>ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music=
 links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">ww=
w.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapa=
intingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaint=
ingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank">www.=
myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...=
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vim=
eo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c" target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>
</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"=
http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>
</div>

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It sounded great mate - ustream is amazing

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
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On 25 Apr 2009, at 21:16, Jim Goodin wrote:

> so I just did a test and special thanks to Matt for popping in and  
> confirming that I was making it across the pond.  I'll be on  
> officially tomorrow morning April 26th at 11am est with the first  
> install of Sunday Morning at 11, come around and have coffee as  
> they say... los link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday- 
> morning-at-11
>
> jim
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jim Goodin  
> <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry I missed both of you today.  If I get my iSight connection  
> figured out I'm going to be chasing the bandwagon tomorrow morning  
> (Sunday AM) at 11 EST.  My stage will be
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11
>
> Matt if you see this I think you did iSight cam no?  I read the how  
> to on this and tried it briefly yesterday and didn't connect.  If  
> you are around and can shed light appreciated, would like to feed  
> sep USB audio which think I'm hip on doing.
>
> I echo Daryl's words in fact it would be great if we could bring a  
> CP show into uStream so maybe that will be in the works as well as  
> other collaborations.  Jeff and I have done as I think was seen  
> canned video NinJam so uStream seems to be merely bringing two  
> accounts together no?
>
> If I get my connections solid I'll send out another promo re  
> tomorrow morn.  The technology is in a sense answering prayers for  
> alternative venue opts rather exciting.
>
> Best to all
>
> jim
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Haha, If I forget and leave the mic on with the computer speaks on  
> at the same time all kind of craziness happens. this live stuff is  
> way different than sitting here nooding for hours and the picking  
> out the best for "release". It's been a long time...oh i guess i  
> should say hey Daryl I practiced that for days to get it just  
> right! lol
>
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn"  
> <highhorse@mhorse.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:01 PM
>
> Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now online!
>
>
> Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy  
> simultaneous low rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was  
> blowing my mind. It was most amusing to watch you come across the  
> room and sit down to type too, right in front of the camera. Keep  
> us posted on the next show.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
> Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get  
> the word about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping  
> out at the end there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I  
> started thinking about what I should play and it all went to hell!  
> Good for me to do this, Real show at some point to be announced.  
> thanks to Rainer for inviting me to co host his gig, we tested some  
> yesterday but by the time i found the button to join it was too  
> late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He is always on  
> the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on this thing  
> sooner or later.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">It sounded great mate - ustream =
is amazing<div><br><div> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Matt =
Stevens</div><div>www.mattstevensguitar.com</div><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 25 Apr 2009, =
at 21:16, Jim Goodin wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">so I just =
did a test and special thanks to Matt for popping in and confirming that =
I was making it across the pond. =A0I'll be on officially tomorrow =
morning April 26th at 11am est with the first install of Sunday Morning =
at 11, come around and have coffee as they say... los link is=A0<a =
href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11">http://www.ust=
ream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11</a><div> =
<br></div><div>jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, =
2009 at 3:53 PM, Jim Goodin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a>></sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Sorry I missed both =
of you today. =A0If I get my iSight connection figured out I'm going to =
be chasing the bandwagon tomorrow morning (Sunday AM) at 11 EST. =A0My =
stage will be=A0<div><a =
href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11</a></=
div> <div><br></div><div>Matt if you see this I think you did iSight cam =
no? =A0I read the how to on this and tried it briefly yesterday and =
didn't connect. =A0If you are around and can shed light appreciated, =
would like to feed sep USB audio which think I'm hip on doing. =A0<div> =
<br></div><div>I echo Daryl's words in fact it would be great if we =
could bring a CP show into uStream so maybe that will be in the works as =
well as other collaborations. =A0Jeff and I have done as I think was =
seen canned video NinJam so uStream seems to be merely bringing two =
accounts together no?</div> <div><br></div><div>If I get my connections =
solid I'll send out another promo re tomorrow morn. =A0The technology is =
in a sense answering prayers for alternative venue opts rather =
exciting.</div><div><br></div><div>Best to all</div> =
<div><br></div><div>jim<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jeff Duke <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> =
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Haha, If I forget and =
leave the mic on with the computer speaks on at the same time all kind =
of craziness happens. this live stuff is way different than sitting here =
nooding for hours and the picking out the best for "release". It's been =
a long time...oh i guess i should say hey Daryl I practiced that for =
days to get it just right! lol<div> <br> <br> Jeff<br> <br> ----- =
Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com" =
target=3D"_blank">highhorse@mhorse.com</a>><br> To: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>><br></div> =
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:01 PM<div><br> Subject: Re: MoinSound =
Studio Session - now online!<br> <br> <br> =
</div><div><div></div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> =
Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy simultaneous =
low rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing my mind. It =
was most amusing to watch you come across the room and sit down to type =
too, right in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the next show.<br> =
<br> Daryl Shawn<br> <a href=3D"http://www.swanwelder.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.swanwelder.com</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br> <br> <blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other =
was, I didn't get the word about time till the last second. Apologies =
for crapping out at the end there, This is pretty wild to play live like =
that. I started thinking about what I should play and it all went to =
hell! Good for me to do this, Real show at some point to be announced. =
thanks to Rainer for inviting me to co host his gig, we tested some =
yesterday but by the time i found the button to join it was too late. =
You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He is always on the cutting =
edge and I know collaberation is coming on this thing sooner or =
later.<br> </blockquote> <br> <br> </blockquote> <br> =
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div>-- =
<br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming =
soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>video =
work/editing...<br> <a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" =
target=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br> <br>social =
networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br> =
</div></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, =
an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music =
links...<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><=
br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/chinapa=
intingmusic</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jim=
goodinviolinelectro</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><=
a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigi=
tal</a><br> <br>social networking...<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic</a><br><br> </div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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Matt thx - thanks for setting the bar with ustream for us.

J

On 4/25/09, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
> It sounded great mate - ustream is amazing
>
> Matt Stevens
> www.mattstevensguitar.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
>
>
>
> On 25 Apr 2009, at 21:16, Jim Goodin wrote:
>
>> so I just did a test and special thanks to Matt for popping in and
>> confirming that I was making it across the pond.  I'll be on
>> officially tomorrow morning April 26th at 11am est with the first
>> install of Sunday Morning at 11, come around and have coffee as
>> they say... los link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-
>> morning-at-11
>>
>> jim
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jim Goodin
>> <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry I missed both of you today.  If I get my iSight connection
>> figured out I'm going to be chasing the bandwagon tomorrow morning
>> (Sunday AM) at 11 EST.  My stage will be
>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11
>>
>> Matt if you see this I think you did iSight cam no?  I read the how
>> to on this and tried it briefly yesterday and didn't connect.  If
>> you are around and can shed light appreciated, would like to feed
>> sep USB audio which think I'm hip on doing.
>>
>> I echo Daryl's words in fact it would be great if we could bring a
>> CP show into uStream so maybe that will be in the works as well as
>> other collaborations.  Jeff and I have done as I think was seen
>> canned video NinJam so uStream seems to be merely bringing two
>> accounts together no?
>>
>> If I get my connections solid I'll send out another promo re
>> tomorrow morn.  The technology is in a sense answering prayers for
>> alternative venue opts rather exciting.
>>
>> Best to all
>>
>> jim
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Haha, If I forget and leave the mic on with the computer speaks on
>> at the same time all kind of craziness happens. this live stuff is
>> way different than sitting here nooding for hours and the picking
>> out the best for "release". It's been a long time...oh i guess i
>> should say hey Daryl I practiced that for days to get it just
>> right! lol
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn"
>> <highhorse@mhorse.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:01 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now online!
>>
>>
>> Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy
>> simultaneous low rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was
>> blowing my mind. It was most amusing to watch you come across the
>> room and sit down to type too, right in front of the camera. Keep
>> us posted on the next show.
>>
>> Daryl Shawn
>> www.swanwelder.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>>
>> Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get
>> the word about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping
>> out at the end there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I
>> started thinking about what I should play and it all went to hell!
>> Good for me to do this, Real show at some point to be announced.
>> thanks to Rainer for inviting me to co host his gig, we tested some
>> yesterday but by the time i found the button to join it was too
>> late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He is always on
>> the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on this thing
>> sooner or later.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>>
>> music links...
>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>> www.myspace.com/jindream
>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>> video work/editing...
>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>>
>> social networking...
>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>>
>> music links...
>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>> www.myspace.com/jindream
>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>> video work/editing...
>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>>
>> social networking...
>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>
>


-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Stefan Tiedje wrote:
> Stage monitors need built in volume pedals, and you have to glue a 
> tape across the main mixer channels to prevent deaf sound guys to 
> crank up anything. I always tell them balancing sound is lowering the 
> too loud levels, not pushing what doesn't get through...
OMG!  Telling a sound person how to do their job is the fastest way to 
get them to turn the suck knob on your channel all the way up!  ;-)

Cheers,

Bill

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right on Jim, I'll be there! i'll be the one shouting "Free Bird" ; )

Jeff
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jim Goodin=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:16 PM
  Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now online!


  so I just did a test and special thanks to Matt for popping in and =
confirming that I was making it across the pond.  I'll be on officially =
tomorrow morning April 26th at 11am est with the first install of Sunday =
Morning at 11, come around and have coffee as they say... los link is =
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11


  jim


  On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> =
wrote:

    Sorry I missed both of you today.  If I get my iSight connection =
figured out I'm going to be chasing the bandwagon tomorrow morning =
(Sunday AM) at 11 EST.  My stage will be=20
    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11


    Matt if you see this I think you did iSight cam no?  I read the how =
to on this and tried it briefly yesterday and didn't connect.  If you =
are around and can shed light appreciated, would like to feed sep USB =
audio which think I'm hip on doing. =20


    I echo Daryl's words in fact it would be great if we could bring a =
CP show into uStream so maybe that will be in the works as well as other =
collaborations.  Jeff and I have done as I think was seen canned video =
NinJam so uStream seems to be merely bringing two accounts together no?


    If I get my connections solid I'll send out another promo re =
tomorrow morn.  The technology is in a sense answering prayers for =
alternative venue opts rather exciting.


    Best to all


    jim



    On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> =
wrote:

      Haha, If I forget and leave the mic on with the computer speaks on =
at the same time all kind of craziness happens. this live stuff is way =
different than sitting here nooding for hours and the picking out the =
best for "release". It's been a long time...oh i guess i should say hey =
Daryl I practiced that for days to get it just right! lol


      Jeff

      ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" =
<highhorse@mhorse.com>
      To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>

      Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:01 PM

      Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now online!



        Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy =
simultaneous low rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing =
my mind. It was most amusing to watch you come across the room and sit =
down to type too, right in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the =
next show.

        Daryl Shawn
        www.swanwelder.com
        www.chinapaintingmusic.com


          Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't =
get the word about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out =
at the end there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started =
thinking about what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me =
to do this, Real show at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer =
for inviting me to co host his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the =
time i found the button to join it was too late. You sounded great as =
usual Rainer good set! He is always on the cutting edge and I know =
collaberation is coming on this thing sooner or later.










    --=20
    ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

    music links...
    www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
    www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
    www.myspace.com/jindream
    www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

    video work/editing...
    www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

    social networking...
    www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic





  --=20
  ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

  music links...
  www.jimgoodinmusic.com
  www.chinapaintingmusic.com
  www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
  www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
  www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
  www.myspace.com/jindream
  www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

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  www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

  social networking...
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>right on Jim, I'll be there! i'll be =
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  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 25, 2009 =
4:16=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: MoinSound Studio =
Session -=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>so I just did a test and special thanks to Matt for =
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  =
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  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jim Goodin =
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#ccc 1px solid">Sorry=20
    I missed both of you today. &nbsp;If I get my iSight connection =
figured out=20
    I'm going to be chasing the bandwagon tomorrow morning (Sunday AM) =
at 11=20
    EST. &nbsp;My stage will be&nbsp;
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target=3D_blank>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11</A></D=
IV>
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    <DIV>Matt if you see this I think you did iSight cam no? &nbsp;I =
read the=20
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&nbsp;If=20
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sep USB=20
    audio which think I'm hip on doing. &nbsp;
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>I echo Daryl's words in fact it would be great if we could =
bring a CP=20
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other=20
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canned video=20
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no?</DIV>
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    <DIV>If I get my connections solid I'll send out another promo re =
tomorrow=20
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alternative=20
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Best to all</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>jim
    <DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dh5><BR><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jeff Duke =
<SPAN=20
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    style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
#ccc 1px solid">Haha,=20
      If I forget and leave the mic on with the computer speaks on at =
the same=20
      time all kind of craziness happens. this live stuff is way =
different than=20
      sitting here nooding for hours and the picking out the best for =
"release".=20
      It's been a long time...oh i guess i should say hey Daryl I =
practiced that=20
      for days to get it just right! lol
      <DIV><BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl =
Shawn"=20
      &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com"=20
      target=3D_blank>highhorse@mhorse.com</A>&gt;<BR>To: &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"=20
      =
target=3D_blank>Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</A>&gt;<BR></DIV>Sent=
:=20
      Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:01 PM
      <DIV><BR>Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now=20
      online!<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
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      style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Jeff,=20
        thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy =
simultaneous low=20
        rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing my mind. =
It was=20
        most amusing to watch you come across the room and sit down to =
type too,=20
        right in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the next=20
        show.<BR><BR>Daryl Shawn<BR><A =
href=3D"http://www.swanwelder.com"=20
        target=3D_blank>www.swanwelder.com</A><BR><A=20
        href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com"=20
        target=3D_blank>www.chinapaintingmusic.com</A><BR><BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
        style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Thanks=20
          for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get the =
word=20
          about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at =
the end=20
          there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started =
thinking=20
          about what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me =
to do=20
          this, Real show at some point to be announced. thanks to =
Rainer for=20
          inviting me to co host his gig, we tested some yesterday but =
by the=20
          time i found the button to join it was too late. You sounded =
great as=20
          usual Rainer good set! He is always on the cutting edge and I =
know=20
          collaberation is coming on this thing sooner or=20
        =
later.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=
</DIV><BR><BR=20
    clear=3Dall><BR></DIV></DIV>-- <BR>ReUse, an introspective textural =
aural=20
    journey coming soon...<BR><BR>music links...<BR><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com"=20
    target=3D_blank>www.jimgoodinmusic.com</A><BR><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com"=20
    target=3D_blank>www.chinapaintingmusic.com</A><BR><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic"=20
    target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic"=20
    target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</A><BR><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro"=20
    target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</A><BR><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream"=20
    target=3D_blank>www.myspace.com/jindream</A><BR><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic"=20
    target=3D_blank>www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><BR>video=20
    work/editing...<BR><A href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" =

    target=3D_blank>www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</A><BR><BR>social=20
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    =
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  =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</A>=
<BR><A=20
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usic</A><BR><A=20
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aintingmusic</A><BR><A=20
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href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/ji=
mgoodinviolinelectro</A><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</A><BR>=
<A=20
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ital</A><BR><BR>social=20
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Ustream has been working magnificently for some others just today. I 
haven't done a cast (show?) yet but it sounds easy to set up, I imagine 
it'd be perfect, check it out.

http://www.ustream.tv/

Man, I'd love to see live footage from Boise!

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> Well, I'm here at the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival 
> now, second day, with a great internet connection and a laptop with a 
> webcam, but no way to stream audio/video to the net for you all!   Any 
> ideas?     Any free services that I could get up and running quickly?
>  
> I have skype but that will only allow one person.
>  
> www.b-cimf.com <http://www.b-cimf.com>

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Kris, http://www.ustream.tv/, works great, might need Firefox,

Jeff
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  Well, I'm here at the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival =
now, second day, with a great internet connection and a laptop with a =
webcam, but no way to stream audio/video to the net for you all!   Any =
ideas?     Any free services that I could get up and running quickly?
  =20
  I have skype but that will only allow one person.
  =20
  www.b-cimf.com
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Jeff alright thx.  Of two requests I?e everr gotten in my performance
past have been that and Rocky Racoon on the same night.

J

On 4/25/09, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> right on Jim, I'll be there! i'll be the one shouting "Free Bird" ; )
>
> Jeff
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jim Goodin
>   To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>   Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:16 PM
>   Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now online!
>
>
>   so I just did a test and special thanks to Matt for popping in and
> confirming that I was making it across the pond.  I'll be on officially
> tomorrow morning April 26th at 11am est with the first install of Sunday
> Morning at 11, come around and have coffee as they say... los link is
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11
>
>
>   jim
>
>
>   On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>     Sorry I missed both of you today.  If I get my iSight connection figured
> out I'm going to be chasing the bandwagon tomorrow morning (Sunday AM) at 11
> EST.  My stage will be
>     http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11
>
>
>     Matt if you see this I think you did iSight cam no?  I read the how to
> on this and tried it briefly yesterday and didn't connect.  If you are
> around and can shed light appreciated, would like to feed sep USB audio
> which think I'm hip on doing.
>
>
>     I echo Daryl's words in fact it would be great if we could bring a CP
> show into uStream so maybe that will be in the works as well as other
> collaborations.  Jeff and I have done as I think was seen canned video
> NinJam so uStream seems to be merely bringing two accounts together no?
>
>
>     If I get my connections solid I'll send out another promo re tomorrow
> morn.  The technology is in a sense answering prayers for alternative venue
> opts rather exciting.
>
>
>     Best to all
>
>
>     jim
>
>
>
>     On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>       Haha, If I forget and leave the mic on with the computer speaks on at
> the same time all kind of craziness happens. this live stuff is way
> different than sitting here nooding for hours and the picking out the best
> for "release". It's been a long time...oh i guess i should say hey Daryl I
> practiced that for days to get it just right! lol
>
>
>       Jeff
>
>       ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn"
> <highhorse@mhorse.com>
>       To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>
>       Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:01 PM
>
>       Subject: Re: MoinSound Studio Session - now online!
>
>
>
>         Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy
> simultaneous low rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing my
> mind. It was most amusing to watch you come across the room and sit down to
> type too, right in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the next show.
>
>         Daryl Shawn
>         www.swanwelder.com
>         www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>
>           Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get
> the word about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the
> end there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started thinking
> about what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this,
> Real show at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me to
> co host his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the button
> to join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good set! He is
> always on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming on this thing
> sooner or later.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     --
>     ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
>     music links...
>     www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>     www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>     www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>     www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>     www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>     www.myspace.com/jindream
>     www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>     video work/editing...
>     www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
>     social networking...
>     www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>
>
>
>
>   --
>   ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
>   music links...
>   www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>   www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>   www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>   www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>   www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>   www.myspace.com/jindream
>   www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>   video work/editing...
>   www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
>   social networking...
>   www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>


-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Works great with safari and yes really easy to setup kris.  Wish there
had been a kyber this year that was great fun last year congrats
though on another boisefest.
Jim

On 4/25/09, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Kris, http://www.ustream.tv/, works great, might need Firefox,
>
> Jeff
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Kris Hartung
>   To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>   Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:21 PM
>   Subject: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>
>
>   Well, I'm here at the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival now,
> second day, with a great internet connection and a laptop with a webcam, but
> no way to stream audio/video to the net for you all!   Any ideas?     Any
> free services that I could get up and running quickly?
>
>   I have skype but that will only allow one person.
>
>   www.b-cimf.com
>
>   Kris
>
>
>


-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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I think i am streaming now..

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Kris

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Not seeing it, bro. That seems to be perhaps your profile page...there 
should be a channel name you can share w/us.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> I think i am streaming now..
>  
> http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
>  
> Kris
>  
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this is it I think but it's not going yet
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvised-music-fes


j
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> Not seeing it, bro. That seems to be perhaps your profile page...there 
> should be a channel name you can share w/us.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>> I think i am streaming now..
>>  http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
>>  Kris
>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
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>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 
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That was his control panel so I subed channel for broadcaster

j
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> this is it I think but it's not going yet
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvised-music-fes
>
>
> j
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
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>> Not seeing it, bro. That seems to be perhaps your profile page...there 
>> should be a channel name you can share w/us.
>>
>> Daryl Shawn
>> www.swanwelder.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>>
>>> I think i am streaming now..
>>>  http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
>>>  Kris
>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 
>>> 270.12.4/2080 - Release Date: 04/25/09 08:29:00
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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I'm still workin on it...switching to Firefox and downloading a plugin now.=
 We are in a break=2C so I should have this up and running soon. =20

=20

Kris


=20
> Date: Sat=2C 25 Apr 2009 17:09:02 -0500
> From: highhorse@mhorse.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>=20
> Not seeing it=2C bro. That seems to be perhaps your profile page...there=
=20
> should be a channel name you can share w/us.
>=20
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
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Kris just remember, if it asks you to allow Adobe say yes!

jeff
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:18 PM
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  I'm still workin on it...switching to Firefox and downloading a plugin =
now. We are in a break, so I should have this up and running soon. =20
  =20
  Kris

  =20
  > Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:09:02 -0500
  > From: highhorse@mhorse.com
  > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
  > Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
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  > Not seeing it, bro. That seems to be perhaps your profile =
page...there=20
  > should be a channel name you can share w/us.
  >=20
  > Daryl Shawn
  > www.swanwelder.com
  > www.chinapaintingmusic.com
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  > > I think i am streaming now..
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super cool, thanks Jeff.

Kris, let us know when you're broadcasting.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> this is it I think but it's not going yet
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvised-music-fes 
>

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is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sending or
broadcast page for me...

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

>  I think i am streaming now..
>
> http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
>
> Kris
>
>



-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sending or broadca=
st page for me...<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at=
 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.c=
om">khartung@q.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">



<div>
I think i am streaming now..<br>
=A0<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957</a><br>
=A0<br>
Kris<br>
=A0<br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"=
http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
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inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jim Goodin=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:33 PM
  Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video


  is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sending or =
broadcast page for me...


  On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

    I think i am streaming now..
    =20
    http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
    =20
    Kris
    =20




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  music links...
  www.jimgoodinmusic.com
  www.chinapaintingmusic.com
  www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
  www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
  www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
  www.myspace.com/jindream
  www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

  video work/editing...
  www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

  social networking...
  www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic


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  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung =
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    href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957"=20
    =
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  clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey =
coming=20
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  =
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  =
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=20

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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jim Goodin=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday=2C April 25=2C 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video

is there an updated link here=2C this one seems to go to a sending or broad=
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On Sat=2C Apr 25=2C 2009 at 6:00 PM=2C Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:


I think i am streaming now..
=20
http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
=20
Kris
=20


--=20
ReUse=2C an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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music</A><BR><A>www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</A><BR><A>www.myspace.co=
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sic-fes you can see the chat box

j
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:37 PM
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  I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see and hear?  We are =
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  =20
  Kris

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    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Jim Goodin=20
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
    Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:33 PM
    Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video


    is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sending or =
broadcast page for me...


    On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> =
wrote:

      I think i am streaming now..
      =20
      http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
      =20
      Kris
      =20




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    ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

    music links...
    www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
    www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
    www.myspace.com/jindream
    www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

    video work/editing...
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    social networking...
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Kris I saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled it for
the moment

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

>  I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see and hear?  We are
> almost at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/msp stuff now.
>
> Kris
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400
>
>
>
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvised-music-fes
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jim Goodin
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:33 PM
> *Subject:* Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>
> is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sending or
> broadcast page for me...
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
>
> I think i am streaming now..
>
> http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
>
> Kris
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>


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www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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Kris I saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled it for=
 the moment<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:37 =
PM, Kris Hartung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com">kh=
artung@q.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">



<div>
I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see and hear?=A0 We are almo=
st at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/msp stuff now.<br>
=A0<br>
Kris<br>
<br>=A0<br>
<hr>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeff_d@emb=
arqmail.com</a><div class=3D"im"><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@=
loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<=
/a><br>
</div><div class=3D"im">Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can&#39;t stre=
am audio/video<br></div>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400<div><div></di=
v><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>


<div><a>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvi=
sed-music-fes</a></div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;bor=
der-left:#000000 2px solid;margin-right:0px">
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"=
jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">Jim Goodin</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:33 P=
M</div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: At Boise Festival Now...=
can&#39;t stream audio/video</div>
<div><br></div>is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sen=
ding or broadcast page for me...<br><br>
<div>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
>khartung@q.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:1ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid">
<div>I think i am streaming now..<br>=A0<br><a>http://www.ustream.tv/broadc=
aster/658957</a><br>=A0<br>Kris<br>=A0<br></div></blockquote></div><br><br =
clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey com=
ing soon...<br>
<br>music links...<br><a>www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a>www.chinapainting=
music.com</a><br><a>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a>www.myspace.co=
m/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><b=
r>
<a>www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a>www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br=
><br>video work/editing...<br><a>www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>=
social networking...<br><a>www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br></bloc=
kquote>
</div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"=
http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>

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 back now..I'll quit fucking with it. :)

=20

Kris


Date: Sat=2C 25 Apr 2009 18:40:11 -0400
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From: jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Kris I saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled it for=
 the moment


On Sat=2C Apr 25=2C 2009 at 6:37 PM=2C Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:


I think I am up now=2C=2C=2Cbut cannot tell. can you see and hear?  We are =
almost at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/msp stuff now.
=20
Kris

=20


From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
Date: Sat=2C 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400





http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvised-musi=
c-fes

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jim Goodin=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday=2C April 25=2C 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video

is there an updated link here=2C this one seems to go to a sending or broad=
cast page for me...


On Sat=2C Apr 25=2C 2009 at 6:00 PM=2C Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:


I think i am streaming now..
=20
http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
=20
Kris
=20


--=20
ReUse=2C an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic




--=20
ReUse=2C an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic.

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<BR>&nbsp=3Bback now..I'll quit fucking with it. :)<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Kris<BR>
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Date: Sat=2C 25 Apr 2009 18:40:11 -0400<BR>Subject: Re: At Boise Festival N=
ow...can't stream audio/video<BR>From: jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com<BR>To: Loop=
ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR><BR>Kris I saw video for a moment no aud=
io yet but looks like you pulled it for the moment<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DEC_gmail_quote>On Sat=2C Apr 25=2C 2009 at 6:37 PM=2C Kris Har=
tung <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt=3B<A href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com">khartung@q.com=
</A>&gt=3B</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3DEC_gmail_quote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex=3B BORDER-LEF=
T: #ccc 1px solid">
<DIV>I think I am up now=2C=2C=2Cbut cannot tell. can you see and hear?&nbs=
p=3B We are almost at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/msp st=
uff now.<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>Kris<BR><BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>
<HR>
From: <A href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</A>
<DIV class=3DEC_im><BR>To: <A href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh=
t.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DEC_im>Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/=
video<BR></DIV>Date: Sat=2C 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dh5><BR><BR>
<DIV><A>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvi=
sed-music-fes</A></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px=3B PADDING-LEFT: 5px=3B MARGIN-LEFT=
: 5px=3B BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid=3B MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4=3B FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A titl=
e=3Djimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>Jim Goodin</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3DLoopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com>Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday=2C April 25=2C 2009 6=
:33 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: At Boise Festival Now..=
.can't stream audio/video</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>is there an updated link here=2C this one seems to go to a s=
ending or broadcast page for me...<BR><BR>
<DIV>On Sat=2C Apr 25=2C 2009 at 6:00 PM=2C Kris Hartung <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&l=
t=3B<A>khartung@q.com</A>&gt=3B</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex=3B BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<DIV>I think i am streaming now..<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR><A>http://www.ustream.tv/b=
roadcaster/658957</A><BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>Kris<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE=
></DIV><BR><BR clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>ReUse=2C an introspective textural au=
ral journey coming soon...<BR><BR>music links...<BR><A>www.jimgoodinmusic.c=
om</A><BR><A>www.chinapaintingmusic.com</A><BR><A>www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</A><BR><A>www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</A><BR><A>www.myspace.co=
m/jimgoodinviolinelectro</A><BR><A>www.myspace.com/jindream</A><BR><A>www.y=
outube.com/jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><BR>video work/editing...<BR><A>www.vimeo.=
com/jimgoodindigital</A><BR><BR>social networking...<BR><A>www.twitter.com/=
jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV=
>
<BR><BR clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>ReUse=2C an introspective textural aural jou=
rney coming soon...<BR><BR>music links...<BR><A href=3D"http://www.jimgoodi=
nmusic.com/">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.chinapaint=
ingmusic.com/">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.mysp=
ace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><A href=3D"ht=
tp://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic=
</A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspa=
ce.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jind=
ream">www.myspace.com/jindream</A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jim=
goodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</A><BR><BR>video work/editing..=
.<BR><A href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoo=
dindigital</A><BR><BR>social networking...<BR><A href=3D"http://www.twitter=
.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</A>.<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
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you're not feeding audio yet are you?  we see vid come and go

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

>
>  back now..I'll quit fucking with it. :)
>
> Kris
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:40:11 -0400
> Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
> From: jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com
>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Kris I saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled it for
> the moment
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
>
> I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see and hear?  We are almost
> at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/msp stuff now.
>
> Kris
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400
>
>
>
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvised-music-fes
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jim Goodin
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:33 PM
> *Subject:* Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>
> is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sending or
> broadcast page for me...
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
>
> I think i am streaming now..
>
> http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
>
> Kris
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic.
>
>
>
>
>



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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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you&#39;re not feeding audio yet are you? =A0we see vid come and go<br><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kris Hartung <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com">khartung@q.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">



<div>
<br>=A0back now..I&#39;ll quit fucking with it. :)<br>
=A0<br>
Kris<br>
<hr>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:40:11 -0400<div class=3D"im"><br>Subject: Re: At =
Boise Festival Now...can&#39;t stream audio/video<br></div>From: <a href=3D=
"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.co=
m</a><div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loop=
ers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><=
br><br>Kris I saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled=
 it for the moment<br>
<br>
<div>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Kris Hartung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com" target=3D"_blank">khartung@q.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:1ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid">
<div>I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see and hear?=A0 We are=
 almost at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/msp stuff now.<br=
>=A0<br>Kris<br><br>=A0<br>
<hr>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeff_d@emb=
arqmail.com</a>
<div><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=
=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br></div>
<div>Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can&#39;t stream audio/video<br><=
/div>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><br>
<div><a>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvi=
sed-music-fes</a></div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;bor=
der-left:#000000 2px solid;margin-right:0px">
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"=
jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">Jim Goodin</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:33 P=
M</div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: At Boise Festival Now...=
can&#39;t stream audio/video</div>
<div><br></div>is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sen=
ding or broadcast page for me...<br><br>
<div>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
>khartung@q.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:1ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid">
<div>I think i am streaming now..<br>=A0<br><a>http://www.ustream.tv/broadc=
aster/658957</a><br>=A0<br>Kris<br>=A0<br></div></blockquote></div><br><br =
clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey com=
ing soon...<br>
<br>music links...<br><a>www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a>www.chinapainting=
music.com</a><br><a>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a>www.myspace.co=
m/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><b=
r>
<a>www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a>www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br=
><br>video work/editing...<br><a>www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>=
social networking...<br><a>www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br></bloc=
kquote>
</div></div></div></blockquote></div>
<br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural jou=
rney coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodi=
nmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.c=
om</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaint=
ingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank">www.=
myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...=
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vim=
eo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br></div></div><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.twitter=
.com/jimgoodinmusic</a>.<br>

=A0<br>
<br><br>=A0<br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"=
http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>

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fire up the chat window lower righ t on yoru broadcast screen and you can
interactx that way

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>wrote:

> you're not feeding audio yet are you?  we see vid come and go
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>  back now..I'll quit fucking with it. :)
>>
>> Kris
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:40:11 -0400
>> Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>> From: jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com
>>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>
>> Kris I saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled it
>> for the moment
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see and hear?  We are
>> almost at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/msp stuff now.
>>
>> Kris
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvised-music-fes
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Jim Goodin
>> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:33 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>>
>> is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sending or
>> broadcast page for me...
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think i am streaming now..
>>
>> http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
>>
>> Kris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>>
>> music links...
>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>> www.myspace.com/jindream
>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>> video work/editing...
>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>>
>> social networking...
>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>>
>> music links...
>> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
>> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
>> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
>> www.myspace.com/jindream
>> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>>
>> video work/editing...
>> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>>
>> social networking...
>> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>


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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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fire up the chat window lower righ t on yoru broadcast screen and you can i=
nteractx that way<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at=
 6:46 PM, Jim Goodin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic=
@gmail.com">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">you&#39;re not feeding audio yet are you? =
=A0we see vid come and go<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kris Hartung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com" target=3D"_blank">khartung@q.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div>
<br>=A0back now..I&#39;ll quit fucking with it. :)<br>
=A0<br>
Kris<br>
<hr>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:40:11 -0400<div><br>Subject: Re: At Boise Festiva=
l Now...can&#39;t stream audio/video<br></div>From: <a href=3D"mailto:jimgo=
odinmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a><div>
<div></div><div><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br><br>Kris I=
 saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled it for the m=
oment<br>

<br>
<div>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Kris Hartung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com" target=3D"_blank">khartung@q.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:1ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid">
<div>I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see and hear?=A0 We are=
 almost at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/msp stuff now.<br=
>=A0<br>Kris<br><br>=A0<br>
<hr>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeff_d@emb=
arqmail.com</a>
<div><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=
=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br></div>
<div>Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can&#39;t stream audio/video<br><=
/div>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><br>
<div><a>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvi=
sed-music-fes</a></div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;bor=
der-left:#000000 2px solid;margin-right:0px">
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"=
jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">Jim Goodin</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:33 P=
M</div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: At Boise Festival Now...=
can&#39;t stream audio/video</div>
<div><br></div>is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sen=
ding or broadcast page for me...<br><br>
<div>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
>khartung@q.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:1ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid">
<div>I think i am streaming now..<br>=A0<br><a>http://www.ustream.tv/broadc=
aster/658957</a><br>=A0<br>Kris<br>=A0<br></div></blockquote></div><br><br =
clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey com=
ing soon...<br>

<br>music links...<br><a>www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a>www.chinapainting=
music.com</a><br><a>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a>www.myspace.co=
m/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><b=
r>

<a>www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a>www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br=
><br>video work/editing...<br><a>www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>=
social networking...<br><a>www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br></bloc=
kquote>

</div></div></div></blockquote></div>
<br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural jou=
rney coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodi=
nmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.c=
om</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaint=
ingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank">www.=
myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...=
<br>

<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vim=
eo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br></div></div><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.twitter=
.com/jimgoodinmusic</a>.<br>


=A0<br>
<br><br>=A0<br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"=
http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a>=
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapa=
intingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaint=
ingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank">www.=
myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=
=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...=
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vim=
eo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c" target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an i=
ntrospective textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br=
><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a=
 href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><=
br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>

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Does anyone know of a drum machine (or the software equivalent) that  
will allow one to dispense with setting tempo and length and instead  
let one do the following:

1. Hit Record to prime the recording process
2. Actual recording begins when you first hit a pad/note
3. Hit record or overdub to end the loop

Tempo can then be defined based on a fraction of the loop length  
(possibly with some form of intelligent auto-detection).

I've found that I can easily play a pattern and hit a button  
essentially meaning repeat which effectively closes the loop.  
Everything else is doable but takes more concentration on issues other  
than the general flow of the pattern.

I can do this with my EDP if I live with mono results that can't be  
edited as MIDI data, but this seems like the sort of thing that ought  
to be easy for a MIDI-based device to support. Are there any that do  
so? Do I need to build my own sequencer -- I've really been resisting  
writing my own music software since I spend my days immersed in the  
software industry.

Mark

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I get nothing.  Says Not Broadcasting.

 

From: Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:47 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video

 

fire up the chat window lower righ t on yoru broadcast screen and you can
interactx that way

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
wrote:

you're not feeding audio yet are you?  we see vid come and go

 

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:


 back now..I'll quit fucking with it. :)
 
Kris

  _____  

Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:40:11 -0400


Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video

From: jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com


To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Kris I saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled it for
the moment

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see and hear?  We are almost
at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/msp stuff now.
 
Kris

 

  _____  

From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com 


To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video

Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400 

 

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvised-music
-fes

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Jim Goodin 

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 

Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:33 PM

Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video

 

is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sending or
broadcast page for me...

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

I think i am streaming now..
 
http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
 
Kris
 




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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic




-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com <http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/> 
www.chinapaintingmusic.com <http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/> 
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...

www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic.
 


 




-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic




-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jim Goodin
[mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream =
audio/video<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>fire up the chat =
window lower
righ t on yoru broadcast screen and you can interactx that =
way<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Jim Goodin &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>you're not feeding audio yet are you? &nbsp;we see =
vid come
and go<o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kris Hartung =
&lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com" target=3D"_blank">khartung@q.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><br>
&nbsp;back now..I'll quit fucking with it. :)<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Kris<o:p></o:p></p>

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</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:40:11 =
-0400<o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><br>
Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream =
audio/video<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>From: <a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com"
target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
<br>
Kris I saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled it =
for the
moment<o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Kris Hartung =
&lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com" target=3D"_blank">khartung@q.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see =
and
hear?&nbsp; We are almost at our intermission...two guys are doing some =
max/msp
stuff now.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Kris<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>From: <a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>

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target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream
audio/video<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400 =
<o:p></o:p></p>

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Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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April 25,
2009 6:33 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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n></b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: At =
Boise
Festival Now...can't stream audio/video<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>is there an updated =
link here,
this one seems to go to a sending or broadcast page for =
me...<o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung
&lt;khartung@q.com&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>I think i am streaming now..<br>
&nbsp;<br>
http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Kris<br>
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

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<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
-- <br>
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br>
<br>
music links...<br>
www.jimgoodinmusic.com<br>
www.chinapaintingmusic.com<br>
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic<br>
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic<br>
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro<br>
www.myspace.com/jindream<br>
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic<br>
<br>
video work/editing...<br>
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital<br>
<br>
social networking...<br>
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><br>
<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
-- <br>
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br>
<br>
music links...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>
video work/editing...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" =
target=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>
social networking...<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic"
target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a>.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
-- <br>
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br>
<br>
music links...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>
video work/editing...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" =
target=3D"_blank">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>
social networking...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

</div>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
-- <br>
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br>
<br>
music links...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a>=
<br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinm=
usic</a><br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/chinap=
aintingmusic</a><br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/ji=
mgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>=

<a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinm=
usic</a><br>
<br>
video work/editing...<br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindig=
ital</a><br>
<br>
social networking...<br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinm=
usic</a><o:p></o:p></p>

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Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
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Tony kris was trying about 30 min ago but hasn't fed anything since..

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:

>  I get nothing.  Says Not Broadcasting.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:47 PM
>
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Subject:* Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>
>
>
> fire up the chat window lower righ t on yoru broadcast screen and you can
> interactx that way
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> you're not feeding audio yet are you?  we see vid come and go
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
>
>
>  back now..I'll quit fucking with it. :)
>
> Kris
>  ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:40:11 -0400
>
>
> Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>
> From: jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com
>
>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Kris I saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled it for
> the moment
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
>
> I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see and hear?  We are almost
> at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/msp stuff now.
>
> Kris
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com
>
>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400
>
>
>
>
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-improvised-music-fes
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Jim Goodin
>
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:33 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: At Boise Festival Now...can't stream audio/video
>
>
>
> is there an updated link here, this one seems to go to a sending or
> broadcast page for me...
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:
>
> I think i am streaming now..
>
> http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957
>
> Kris
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
>
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>



-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Tony kris was trying about 30 min ago but hasn&#39;t fed anything since..<b=
r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Tony K <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bigtonyk@gmail.com">bigtonyk@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">









<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">

<div>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I get nothing.=A0 Says No=
t Broadcasting.</span></p>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p>

<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">

<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt"> Jim Goodin
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgo=
odinmusic@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:47 PM</span></p><div><div></div><di=
v class=3D"h5"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D=
"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: At Boise Festival Now...can&#39;t stream audio/video</d=
iv></div><p></p>

</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">

<p>=A0</p>

<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">fire up the chat window lower
righ t on yoru broadcast screen and you can interactx that way</p>

<div>

<p>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Jim Goodin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimgoo=
dinmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:</p>

<p>you&#39;re not feeding audio yet are you? =A0we see vid come
and go</p>

<div>

<div>

<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">=A0</p>

<div>

<p>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kris Hartung &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:khar=
tung@q.com" target=3D"_blank">khartung@q.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p>

<div>

<p><br>
=A0back now..I&#39;ll quit fucking with it. :)<br>
=A0<br>
Kris</p>

<div align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center">

<hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center">

</div>

<p>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:40:11 -0400</p>

<div>

<p><br>
Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can&#39;t stream audio/video</p>

</div>

<p>From: <a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jimg=
oodinmusic@gmail.com</a></p>

<div>

<div>

<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
<br>
Kris I saw video for a moment no audio yet but looks like you pulled it for=
 the
moment</p>

<div>

<p>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Kris Hartung &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:khar=
tung@q.com" target=3D"_blank">khartung@q.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p>

<div>

<p>I think I am up now,,,but cannot tell. can you see and
hear?=A0 We are almost at our intermission...two guys are doing some max/ms=
p
stuff now.<br>
=A0<br>
Kris<br>
<br>
=A0</p>

<div align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center">

<hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center">

</div>

<p>From: <a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeff_d@=
embarqmail.com</a>
</p>

<div>

<p><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a></p>

</div>

<div>

<p>Subject: Re: At Boise Festival Now...can&#39;t stream
audio/video</p>

</div>

<p>Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:13 -0400 </p>

<div>

<div>

<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">=A0</p>

<div>

<p><a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-annual-boise-creative-and-i=
mprovised-music-fes" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/4th-an=
nual-boise-creative-and-improvised-music-fes</a></p>

</div>

<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in =
0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-b=
ottom:5.0pt">

<div>

<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">-----
Original Message ----- </span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p style=3D"background:#E4E4E4"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">From:</=
span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"> Jim Goodin </span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">To:</span></b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt">
<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Lo=
opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a> </span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Sent:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt"> Saturday, April 25,
2009 6:33 PM</span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Subject:</span></b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt"> Re: At Boise
Festival Now...can&#39;t stream audio/video</span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p>=A0</p>

</div>

<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">is there an updated link here,
this one seems to go to a sending or broadcast page for me...</p>

<div>

<p>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kris Hartung
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com" target=3D"_blank">khartung@q.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:</p>

<div>

<p>I think i am streaming now..<br>
=A0<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.ustream.tv/broadcaster/658957</a><br>
=A0<br>
Kris<br>
=A0</p>

</div>

</div>

<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
<br clear=3D"all">
<br>
-- <br>
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br>
<br>
music links...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmu=
sic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapa=
intingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank"=
>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.you=
tube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>
video work/editing...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vim=
eo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>
social networking...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.twi=
tter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a></p>

</blockquote>

</div>

</div>

</div>

</div>

<p><br>
<br clear=3D"all">
<br>
-- <br>
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br>
<br>
music links...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinm=
usic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.chinap=
aintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank"=
>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.you=
tube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>
video work/editing...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vim=
eo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>
social networking...</p>

</div>

</div>

<p><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.=
twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a>.<br>
=A0<br>
<br>
<br>
=A0</p>

</div>

</div>

<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
<br clear=3D"all">
<br>
-- <br>
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br>
<br>
music links...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmu=
sic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapa=
intingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank"=
>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.you=
tube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>
video work/editing...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vim=
eo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>
social networking...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.twi=
tter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a></p>

</div>

</div>

</div>

<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
<br clear=3D"all">
<br>
-- <br>
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br>
<br>
music links...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jimgoodinmu=
sic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.chinapa=
intingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.mys=
pace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic" target=3D"_blank">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro" target=3D"_blank"=
>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.c=
om/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.you=
tube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>
video work/editing...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital" target=3D"_blank">www.vim=
eo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>
social networking...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic" target=3D"_blank">www.twi=
tter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a></p>

</div></div></div>

</div>


</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"=
http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>

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I don't quite understand this interface. I get it going=2C and it eventuall=
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I have seen it hang up in signing in kris, why don't you break from it flush
your browser cache and reconnect...

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

>  I don't quite understand this interface. I get it going, and it eventually
> disconnects. Then when I click on the broadcast button, it says it is
> already broadcasting.
>
> Kris
>
>



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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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I have seen it hang up in signing in kris, why don&#39;t you break from it =
flush your browser cache and reconnect...<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Kris Hartung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com">khartung@q.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
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<div>
I don&#39;t quite understand this interface. I get it going, and it eventua=
lly disconnects. Then when I click on the broadcast button, it says it is a=
lready broadcasting.<br>
=A0<br>
Kris<br>
=A0<br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"=
http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>

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also are you going over wireless router, might be instable there

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Kris Hartung <khartung@q.com> wrote:

>  I don't quite understand this interface. I get it going, and it eventually
> disconnects. Then when I click on the broadcast button, it says it is
> already broadcasting.
>
> Kris
>
>



-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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also are you going over wireless router, might be instable there<br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Kris Hartung <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:khartung@q.com">khartung@q.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
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<div>
I don&#39;t quite understand this interface. I get it going, and it eventua=
lly disconnects. Then when I click on the broadcast button, it says it is a=
lready broadcasting.<br>
=A0<br>
Kris<br>
=A0<br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
 textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"=
http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
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I watched this later and I will remember to make sure my balding head 
doesn't show so much. I am learning alot just watching myself. I have alot 
of rearanging to get this to work for me. And practicing playing seamlessly 
for extended periods. Very informative watching me squint at the camera 
while typing, hehe. It will be easier for you all that play out regularly. 
Thanks for the support!

Jeff

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> Jeff, thanks for playing. At one point there was some crazy simultaneous 
> low rumble with near-hypersonic whistles that was blowing my mind. It was 
> most amusing to watch you come across the room and sit down to type too, 
> right in front of the camera. Keep us posted on the next show.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>> Thanks for watching Daryl and whoever the other was, I didn't get the 
>> word about time till the last second. Apologies for crapping out at the 
>> end there, This is pretty wild to play live like that. I started thinking 
>> about what I should play and it all went to hell! Good for me to do this, 
>> Real show at some point to be announced. thanks to Rainer for inviting me 
>> to co host his gig, we tested some yesterday but by the time i found the 
>> button to join it was too late. You sounded great as usual Rainer good 
>> set! He is always on the cutting edge and I know collaberation is coming 
>> on this thing sooner or later.
>
> 

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At 4:07 PM -0700 4/25/09, Mark Hamburg wrote:
>Does anyone know of a drum machine (or the software equivalent) that 
>will allow one to dispense with setting tempo and length and instead 
>let one do the following:
>
>1. Hit Record to prime the recording process
>2. Actual recording begins when you first hit a pad/note
>3. Hit record or overdub to end the loop


KCS Omega open mode (Atari software runnable on a win box using Steem 
emulator) lets you do this part. You can make as many loops as you 
like, but they won't automatically sync -- each loop will be as long 
as you play for. You can get as many loops going as you want and 
stop, start, mute and unmute them.


>
>Tempo can then be defined based on a fraction of the loop length 
>(possibly with some form of intelligent auto-detection).

Doesn't do this, You'd have to abandon the notion  of the software 
being aware of bars and beats and just think of it manipulating 
chunks of MIDI data.

>
>I've found that I can easily play a pattern and hit a button 
>essentially meaning repeat which effectively closes the loop. 
>Everything else is doable but takes more concentration on issues 
>other than the general flow of the pattern.
>
>I can do this with my EDP if I live with mono results that can't be 
>edited as MIDI data, but this seems like the sort of thing that 
>ought to be easy for a MIDI-based device to support. Are there any 
>that do so? Do I need to build my own sequencer -- I've really been 
>resisting writing my own music software since I spend my days 
>immersed in the software industry.

=I hear you on that one.



>
>Mark


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great article Todd, how wonderful that you know Terry and even can call him
your friend ... he is one of my all-time heroes too, I feel lots of
gratitude that he exists ... and let's not forget ... he was the first
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http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/akai/remix16.html

does anyone still have and use one of these? I saw Arve Henriksen & Jan Bang
on Friday - it was wonderful and very inspiring - and I noticed that live
sampling wizard Jan Bang uses this box most of the time, with very
interesting results.

-Michael

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"Hotel California"..
while playing solo classical guitar pieces for our friendly 
Turkish hotel owner.

andy


Jim Goodin wrote:
> Jeff alright thx.  Of two requests I?e everr gotten in my performance
> past have been that and Rocky Racoon on the same night.
> 
> J
> 
> On 4/25/09, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> right on Jim, I'll be there! i'll be the one shouting "Free Bird" ; )
>>
>> Jeff

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Mark Hamburg wrote:
> Does anyone know of a drum machine (or the software equivalent) that 
> will allow one to dispense with setting tempo and length and instead let 
> one do the following:
> 
> 1. Hit Record to prime the recording process
> 2. Actual recording begins when you first hit a pad/note
> 3. Hit record or overdub to end the loop
> 
> Tempo can then be defined based on a fraction of the loop length 
> (possibly with some form of intelligent auto-detection).
> 
> I've found that I can easily play a pattern and hit a button essentially 
> meaning repeat which effectively closes the loop. Everything else is 
> doable but takes more concentration on issues other than the general 
> flow of the pattern.
> 
> I can do this with my EDP if I live with mono results that can't be 
> edited as MIDI data, but this seems like the sort of thing that ought to 
> be easy for a MIDI-based device to support. Are there any that do so? 

Not as far as I know.
Midi is rather fixed into the pre-defined tempo idea.

> Do 
> I need to build my own sequencer -- I've really been resisting writing 
> my own music software since I spend my days immersed in the software 
> industry.
> 
> Mark

I reckon that's what you'd have to do.
Record midi commands at the resolution of audio samplerate.

Matthias and I talked about this, to see if it would be possible to
convert audio looping software to do that.
We soon worked out it wouldn't. It's no problem to record the midi commands
and play them back, but each note-On needs a corresponding Note-Off...and
as soon as they get separated, by editing the loop or even just by
closing a single loop you end up with problems.

Not that the problems aren't solvable, just that it's not practical
to convert an audio looper to do that.

A fresh approach would be needed, keeping those problems in mind
from the beginning.
If you wanted to take that on, I think there'd be some grateful people out there.

andy butler
 



> 
> 

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A couple of excerpts from my show in London last week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnKTJlSsgkg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdxWu_ydJDE

Kayla x

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A couple of excerpts from my show in London last week:<br><br><a href=3D"ht=
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http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090425.html

The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts.  When I am at the helm, expect
to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an
eclectic mix of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.

                Show #151                April 25, 2009.

On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
issues came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
http://sequencesmagazine.com


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
VA [Robert Scott     Ginnungagap          Sequences No. 6
  Thompson]
VA [Holle Mangler]   Apocalyptic Dance    Sequences No. 6
VA [Harvey           Ride To Infinity     Sequences No. 6
  Bainbridge]
Between Interval     Three Years Ago      The Edge of a Fairytale
                                            (Spotted Peccary)
John DuVal           Mimsey Were the      Cassiopeia's Playground (Earth
                       Borogoves            Mantra)
Polaris              975-2                Background Stories (Ricochet
                                            Dream)
Steve Roach          Canyon Stillness     Dynamic Stillness (Projekt)


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Takeda and Rosenberg Stream               Shikisokuzeku (Viagem)
Anne Trenning        And I'll Fly Away    Watching For Rain (Shadetree)
David Mauk           July                 12 Months (Thera)
Frederick Fennell    Holst: Suite No. 2   Holst/Handel/Bach (Telarc)
  and the Cleveland    in F: March
  Symphonic Winds
Frederick Fennell    Holst: Suite No. 2   Holst/Handel/Bach (Telarc)
  and the Cleveland    in F: Song Without
  Symphonic Winds              Words


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Echolyn              Mei *                Mei (Velveteen)
The Syn              Breaking Down Walls  Syndestructible (Umbrello)
The Syn              Some Time, Some Way  Syndestructible (Umbrello)
The Syn              Reach Outro          Syndestructible (Umbrello)
Echolyn              Georgia Pine         The End Is Beautiful
                                            (Velveteen)
Echolyn              As the World         Jersey Tomato Vol. 2 (none)


 * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill
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> As a back-up option, you might try www.stickam.com which is easy and FREE as well...........

Kevin,

could you tell us a little about this service? Are you using it to
stream concerts or performances of you to listeners/viewers? If so,

how does that work? What is the terminology like on the site? What is
the intended use of that service?
(I'm asking because it appeared to me that the main application was
multi-participant video chat)

And more specifically:
How does it work from a tech standpoint?
(e.g. are you able to fine-adjust encoding parameters, as
stereo/sample rate etc.)
Does it work well for one guy streaming to a lot of people (meaning:
more than half a dozen or so)?
For several people combining their video stream to play to a lot of people?

Questions, questions, flocking to the mind of the concerned rock'n'
roll performer today...

        Rainer

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Good morning...
I'm doing a set on uStream at 11am est (@20 min from now).  My link is
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.  stop by if time.

Thx

Jim

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Good morning...<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m doing a set on uStream at 11am e=
st (@20 min from now). =A0My link is=A0<a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/cha=
nnel/sunday-morning-at-11">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-=
11</a>. =A0stop by if time.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thx</div><div><br></div><div>Jim<br clear=3D"all"><br>-=
- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>=
music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmu=
sic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
</a><br>
<br>
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On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> I'm doing a set on uStream at 11am est (@20 min from now). =C2=A0My link
> is=C2=A0http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. =C2=A0stop by=
 if time.

Got a good stream pick-up here. Play on, Jim! :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Per thanks so much for tuning in man, I really appreciated it. It was so
neat to have so many from the list come by.  Look forward to seeing you on
ustream soon.
best Per

Jim

I need to browse for you on FB and will add..

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm doing a set on uStream at 11am est (@20 min from now).  My link
> > is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.  stop by if time.
>
> Got a good stream pick-up here. Play on, Jim! :-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>


-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Per thanks so much for tuning in man, I really appreciated it. It was so ne=
at to have so many from the list come by. =A0Look forward to seeing you on =
ustream soon.<div><br></div><div>best Per</div><div><br></div><div>Jim</div=
>
<div><br></div><div>I need to browse for you on FB and will add..<br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4=
:42 PM, Jim Goodin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">jimgoodi=
nmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt; I&#39;m doing a set on uStream at 11am est (@20 min from now). =A0My l=
ink<br>
&gt; is=A0<a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11</a>. =A0=
stop by if time.<br>
<br>
</div>Got a good stream pick-up here. Play on, Jim! :-)<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an intros=
pective textural aural journey coming soon...<br><br>music links...<br><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.mysp=
ace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgood=
inviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodi=
nmusic</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/=
jimgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br>
<br>social networking...<br><a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusi=
c">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br><br>
</div>

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On Apr 26, 2009, at 4:29 AM, andy butler wrote:

> Matthias and I talked about this, to see if it would be possible to
> convert audio looping software to do that.
> We soon worked out it wouldn't. It's no problem to record the midi  
> commands
> and play them back, but each note-On needs a corresponding Note- 
> Off...and
> as soon as they get separated, by editing the loop or even just by
> closing a single loop you end up with problems.
>
> Not that the problems aren't solvable, just that it's not practical
> to convert an audio looper to do that.

I've recognized the note on/note off problems, but obviously drum  
machines manage to provide some definition for overdub recording. So,  
essentially I'm looking to combine the timing logic of an audio looper  
with the overdub behavior of a MIDI sequencer.

Mark

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Ive owned both LP1 and EDP and mobius integrates both of them together=0Ala=
tely ive been using the EDP again and the latency difference is a bit notic=
eable but hardly an issue.Though when syncing a drum machine i like the way=
 the EDP handles it and overall the EDP just feels more quicker,more respon=
sive and accurate.The other thing i miss from the EDP is the awesome multip=
ly function which mobius does different,but then again mobius has too many =
other good features.The scramble function on the LP1 was cool but i think J=
eff just sent out a script recently t9o integrate it though ive not tried i=
t yet.=0AThe thing i will not miss from both traveling by train or plane is=
 the rack schleppen factor!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- =
On Sat, 4/25/09, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:=0A=0A>=
 From: Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>=0A> Subject: Looperlati=
ve vs EDP=0A> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Saturday, A=
pril 25, 2009, 12:25 PM=0A> > The LP1 is an awesome animal.=0A> Nothing com=
es close. The only thing i miss from the EDP is=0A> the convenience of the =
Multiply function.=0A> =0A> Which, actually, is something I've come to use =
a lot in all=0A> of its variants ;).=0A> =0A> Seriously: are there any user=
s here who could compare=0A> Looperlative,=0A> EDP and Mobius? Krispen, I t=
hink you've used all of them,=0A> but to which=0A> extent? Anyone else?=0A>=
 =0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A      

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I can't believe that I spent about 2 hours looking for this without success.
There are zillions of fancy vst effects and instruments out there for free,
but nothing like what I want. Any ideas where to look?

I want a Windows VST sample recorder/player, not just a sample player but
something very simple that can record live input audio and then on a click
simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it polyphonically. I
thought this is not too much to ask but apparently nobody needs something
like this. It doesn't even have to be able to save the samples or load them,
or do anything fancy. Samplers like Kontakt are way too complex and big, I
thought of something really basic and small (and free, of course). But I
couldn't find anything.

-Michael


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This is partly why I have a repeater.  I can record sounds on a track
with 0 volume and play them with my m-audio trigger finger, sending
both pitch and volume with the touch sensitive pads.  I'd think you
could find a software equivalent, but if not, I've had a lot of fun
with this setup.

Sylvain

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> I can't believe that I spent about 2 hours looking for this without success.
> There are zillions of fancy vst effects and instruments out there for free,
> but nothing like what I want. Any ideas where to look?
>
> I want a Windows VST sample recorder/player, not just a sample player but
> something very simple that can record live input audio and then on a click
> simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it polyphonically. I
> thought this is not too much to ask but apparently nobody needs something
> like this. It doesn't even have to be able to save the samples or load them,
> or do anything fancy. Samplers like Kontakt are way too complex and big, I
> thought of something really basic and small (and free, of course). But I
> couldn't find anything.
>
> -Michael
>
>
>

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On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
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> something very simple that can record live input audio and then on a click
> simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it polyphonically. I
> thought this is not too much to ask but apparently nobody needs something
> like this.

I need something like that and I have been looking around for one for
years and even suggested established music software developing players
to make such a product. Without success, obviously ;-)  What you want
is a "live sampler". I guess the inertia is comes from the fact that
most sampler users don't work in real-time when producing music,
meaning the market is not yet there but has to be created for a
commercial developer to step in. And samplers that play files already
saved to disc are easier to create, so they tend to work with that
kind of "commercially safe" product instead.

The closest thing I can think of is Mobius with the Rate Shift
function activated. But that will only work as a monophonic real-time
sampler.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Sylvain Poitras
<sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is partly why I have a repeater.

Guess you by "partly" mean the lack of multiple voice allocation? I've
had a Repeater too ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Yeah, polyphonic playing is hard to achieve with this setup.  You
could copy the sound to tracks 2 to 4 and use the appropriate cc's to
control the pitch and volume of each track individually.  It certainly
wouldn't be like playing a keyboard...
Sylvain


On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Sylvain Poitras
> <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is partly why I have a repeater.
>
> Guess you by "partly" mean the lack of multiple voice allocation? I've
> had a Repeater too ;-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>

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Michael Peters,

something very simple that can record live input audio and then on a click
> simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it polyphonically.
>

I know this is my answer for everything, but Usine's sampler module can
dowhat you want pretty much out of the box. Usine is also free (if you don't
need the advanced patching capabilities) and can be used as a VST effect in
other hosts.

Ian

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t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div id=3D":8" class=3D"ii gt">somethin=
g very simple that can record live input audio and then on a click<br>

simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it polyphonically.</div><=
/blockquote></div><br><div>I know this is my answer for everything, but Usi=
ne&#39;s sampler module can dowhat you want pretty much out of the box. Usi=
ne is also free (if you don&#39;t need the advanced patching capabilities) =
and can be used as a VST effect in other hosts.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Ian</div>

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At 7:33 AM +0200 4/27/09, Ian Petersen wrote:
>Michael Peters,
>
>something very simple that can record live input audio and then on a click
>simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it polyphonically.

Musolomo would do exactly that, but it never made it to Windows. 
Mac-only, I'm afraid.  :(

Hard to believe there's not something out there for WinVST.  Have you 
tried a search through the KVR-VST site yet?

>I know this is my answer for everything, but Usine's sampler module 
>can dowhat you want pretty much out of the box. Usine is also free 
>(if you don't need the advanced patching capabilities) and can be 
>used as a VST effect in other hosts.

Alternatively, I would think you should be able to hack something out 
with Bidule as well.  Shouldn't be too complicated with either of 
those packages, I'd imagine.

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<div>At 7:33 AM +0200 4/27/09, Ian Petersen wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Michael Peters,</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br>
<blockquote>something very simple that can record live input audio and
then on a click<br>
simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it
polyphonically.</blockquote>
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<div>Musolomo would do exactly that, but it never made it to Windows.&nbsp;
Mac-only, I'm afraid.&nbsp; :(</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Hard to believe there's not something out there for WinVST.&nbsp;
Have you tried a search through the KVR-VST site yet?</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>I know this is my answer for everything,
but Usine's sampler module can dowhat you want pretty much out of the
box. Usine is also free (if you don't need the advanced patching
capabilities) and can be used as a VST effect in other
hosts.</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>Alternatively, I would think you should be able to hack something
out with Bidule as well.&nbsp; Shouldn't be too complicated with
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Luis
What is latency to you?
You use the term often but I cant relate it to a hardware looper
Cheers
Claude

L.Angulo a =E9crit :
> Ive owned both LP1 and EDP and mobius integrates both of them together
> lately ive been using the EDP again and the latency difference is a bit=
 noticeable but hardly an issue.Though when syncing a drum machine i like=
 the way the EDP handles it and overall the EDP just feels more quicker,m=
ore responsive and accurate.The other thing i miss from the EDP is the aw=
esome multiply function which mobius does different,but then again mobius=
 has too many other good features.The scramble function on the LP1 was co=
ol but i think Jeff just sent out a script recently t9o integrate it thou=
gh ive not tried it yet.
> The thing i will not miss from both traveling by train or plane is the =
rack schleppen factor!
>=20
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
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> --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote=
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>> From: Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>
>> Subject: Looperlative vs EDP
>> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 12:25 PM
>>> The LP1 is an awesome animal.
>> Nothing comes close. The only thing i miss from the EDP is
>> the convenience of the Multiply function.
>>
>> Which, actually, is something I've come to use a lot in all
>> of its variants ;).
>>
>> Seriously: are there any users here who could compare
>> Looperlative,
>> EDP and Mobius? Krispen, I think you've used all of them,
>> but to which
>> extent? Anyone else?
>>
>>             Rainer
>>
>>
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Im pretty sure that was a gramatical typo Claude... theres no "latency" in
EDP.. (None being an overstatement of course... its electronics, so there i=
s
something) ... Im sure he was relating to Mobius having some latency, but
hardly an issue.

The EDP, has some quantising features that can sometimes feel like latency,
but.. they are NICE things for the good of all mankind...
as for the ba-da ba-da latency of all computer set-ups Ive eber tried or se=
t
up... no contest.. EDP =3D NONE.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:

> Luis
> What is latency to you?
> You use the term often but I cant relate it to a hardware looper
> Cheers
> Claude
>
> L.Angulo a =E9crit :
>
>> Ive owned both LP1 and EDP and mobius integrates both of them together
>> lately ive been using the EDP again and the latency difference is a bit
>> noticeable but hardly an issue.
>
>


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Im pretty sure that was a gramatical typo Claude... theres no &quot;latency=
&quot; in EDP.. (None being an overstatement of course... its electronics, =
so there is something) ... Im sure he was relating to Mobius having some la=
tency, but hardly an issue.<br>

<br>The EDP, has some quantising features that can sometimes feel like late=
ncy, but.. they are NICE things for the good of all mankind... <br>as for t=
he ba-da ba-da latency of all computer set-ups Ive eber tried or set up... =
no contest.. EDP =3D NONE. <br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Claude Voit=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;c.voit@vtx.ch&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
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<div id=3D":133" class=3D"ii gt">Luis<br>
What is latency to you?<br>
You use the term often but I cant relate it to a hardware looper<br>
Cheers<br>
Claude<br>
<br>
L.Angulo a =E9crit :<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Ive owned both LP1 and EDP and mobius integrates both of them together<br>
lately ive been using the EDP again and the latency difference is a bit not=
iceable but hardly an issue.</blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br><br c=
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You make a good point about the text file format as input to Lilypond.
 Over the years I've developed a healthy appreciation for plain text
formats.  They never go out of date, you never lose the application to
read them, you're not stuck with paying licensing fees for apps to
continue to use your document, etc...

I just wanted to chime in with a neat tip associated with text files:
revision control systems.  Us software engineers rely on revisioning
systems every day, but there's no reason these incredibly useful tools
should be restricted to programmers.  I've started using GIT for all
my documents after reading about how author Cory Doctorow uses it for
his books.  The neat thing is that Lilypond's plain text format would
make an ideal candidate for revision control.

Just a geeky tip.  Now back to your regularly scheduled looping...
Todd



On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> I love Lilypond!! :)
> =A0and totally agree with Todd: Output is great, learning curve is steep,=
 once you're used to it, it's easy.
>
> Over time, I've learnt to appreciate text-based input (sort of like writi=
ng HTML code) and the incredible variety of notation. It is also the only s=
oftware that can notate microtonal steps, like i.e. in turkish traditional =
music, AND play them as midi files.
>
> I use it both on Mac & PC. Don't know about audio crashes on Mac, works f=
ine with me (except a minor chord glitch).
> Personally, I recommend using it with jEdit text editor (PC&Mac), makes i=
t much more comfortable:
> http://www.jedit.org/
> http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/
>
> You should definitely give Lilypond a try: http://lilypond.org/ !!
>
> best regards
> Buzap
>
>
> --
> Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen=
: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01
>
>

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Try Expert Sleepers Crossfade Loop Synth

http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/xfadelooper.html


cheers,
os.


2009/4/26 Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>:
> I can't believe that I spent about 2 hours looking for this without success.
> There are zillions of fancy vst effects and instruments out there for free,
> but nothing like what I want. Any ideas where to look?
>
> I want a Windows VST sample recorder/player, not just a sample player but
> something very simple that can record live input audio and then on a click
> simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it polyphonically. I
> thought this is not too much to ask but apparently nobody needs something
> like this. It doesn't even have to be able to save the samples or load them,
> or do anything fancy. Samplers like Kontakt are way too complex and big, I
> thought of something really basic and small (and free, of course). But I
> couldn't find anything.
>
> -Michael
>
>
>



-- 
os@collective.co.uk
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On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:
> Luis
> What is latency to you?
> You use the term often but I cant relate it to a hardware looper
> Cheers
> Claude

Sorry for breaking into a post directed for Luis, but I just happen to
remember a post from Andy or Matthias (long ago) stating the EDP
latency has been measured to be somewhere around 3 milliseconds. This
is of course if you play your audio through the EDP, not if putting it
in send loop and set to just the wet signal. But I guess it doesn't
compensate those 3 ms for the loops so there will be 3 ms anyway.

Maybe Luis meant latency with a computer software based converter?
That should measure up somewhere between 6 and 20 milliseconds for the
direct audio through signal (software loopers may compensate for that
in loops), equaling standing some 3 to 7 meters from a guitar
amp/speaker while playing.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Hi Sunao,
quite noisy stuff. I like track # 3, with the violin.
It also sounded like you had a good crowd / audience
in there.
Best,
Christo
www.christojota.de
www.myspace.com/christojota

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> Hi LD,
>
> Roberto  is visiting Japan now and we just did gigs.
> I  uploaded short movies below:
>
> Live at Penguin House, Tokyo on 23rd April.
> Roberto Zorzi (gt),Tadahiko Yokogawa (vio,computer) and Sunao Inami
(computer).
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zcnOtqV5io
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDeJ88xWqM
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxk-tDWFBd0
>
>
>   Regards
>
>    Sunao
>
>
>
> At 11:50 PM +0900 09.4.9, Sunao Inami wrote:
> >Hi LD,
> >
> >This is Roberto Zorzi Japan tour information.
> >http://www.robertozorzi.com/
> >
> >He come to Japan in this month:
> >
> >20th April
> >Super Deluxe,Tokyo
> >http://www.super-deluxe.com/
> >
> >23rd April
> >Penguin House, Tokyo
> >http://www3.plala.or.jp/FREEDOM/PENGUIN.htm
> >
> >24th April
> >Big Apple, Kobe
> >http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/i/big-apple/
> >
> >26th April
> >Urban Guild,Kyoto
> >http://urbanguild.net/
> >
> >
> >
> >I will play with him on 23rd and 24th April.
> >Mand Man (Hideki Nakanishi) will play with him on 26th.
> >
> >
> >  Regards
> >
> >  Sunao
> >http://www.myspace.com/sunao
>

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Per Boysen wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:
>> Luis
>> What is latency to you?
>> You use the term often but I cant relate it to a hardware looper
>> Cheers
>> Claude
> 
> Sorry for breaking into a post directed for Luis, but I just happen to
> remember a post from Andy or Matthias (long ago) stating the EDP
> latency has been measured to be somewhere around 3 milliseconds. This
> is of course if you play your audio through the EDP, not if putting it
> in send loop and set to just the wet signal. But I guess it doesn't
> compensate those 3 ms for the loops so there will be 3 ms anyway.
>

That would have been my measurement.
The time from hitting a button to the time a sample starts to play.
To get down to 3-4mS you need a Gorduis Midi controller.
The fcb1010, and oddly enough the EDP front panel take 4-5mS.

Matthias says the EDP has 1mS jitter in response time, ie
it checks for button presses once a mS.

Any latency from the A/D converter got missed out in that measurement.

Triggering a sample by foot is a good way to learn to compensate
for brain>>foot>>sound latency, brain>>foot being by far the largest 
part of that.



andy butler 
anyone have figures for looperlative latency?
No reason to think it won't be comparably low, but increasing
sophistication can allow latency to creep up (as Xavier(LG) found out, and fixed),
and apparently A/D & D/A converters can get slower as the quality goes up.

 

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sorry,i dont know anything about the technicalities behind latency etc. i m=
eant that using the Mobius-laptop route feels just a bit less responsive co=
mpared to the EDP,though is hardly an issue for me because ive learned to c=
ompensate quickly but as Jeff once said there is no latency in Mobius so it=
 has more to do with soundcard,drivers,laptop or whatever.=0Ahardware still=
 rocks!=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On S=
un, 4/26/09, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:=0A=0A> From: ma=
rk francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>=0A> Subject: Re: Looperlative vs EDP=
=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Sunday, April 26, 20=
09, 11:29 PM=0A> Im pretty sure that was a gramatical=0A> typo Claude... th=
eres no "latency" in EDP.. (None=0A> being an overstatement of course... it=
s electronics, so=0A> there is something) ... Im sure he was relating to Mo=
bius=0A> having some latency, but hardly an issue.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> The E=
DP, has some quantising features that can sometimes=0A> feel like latency, =
but.. they are NICE things for the good=0A> of all mankind... =0A> as for t=
he ba-da ba-da latency of all computer set-ups Ive=0A> eber tried or set up=
... no contest.. EDP =3D NONE. =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at =
8:12 AM,=0A> Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch>=0A> wrote:=0A> =0A> =0A> Luis=0A> =
=0A> What is latency to you?=0A> =0A> You use the term often but I cant rel=
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 mobius integrates both of=0A> them together=0A> =0A> lately ive been using=
 the EDP again and the latency=0A> difference is a bit noticeable but hardl=
y an=0A> issue.=0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> www.markfrancombe.com=0A> =0A> =0A> h=
ttp://vimeo.com/user825094=0A> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe=0A>=
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> Can I hum a tune and have it write an orchestral score for me? 

I think you are a candidate for Songsmith! ;-))


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Hi all,=20
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the European Live Looping Festival '09  Sjaak Overgaauw and me are =
working on  - is ready to go.

The First International Live Looping Festival - "in Rome"  will be =
announced in Florence on 3th June in a  promotional - improvised music =
show kindly hosted by Massimo Liverani and the Koan Loop Ensemble.

The main Festival, will take place in Rome on 6ht june 2009 at the =
DimmiDiS=EC club.
This is the line up:
Rick Walker - USA -head liner
Michael Peters - DE - featured performer
Per Boysen - SE - featured performer
Bernhar Wagner - CH
Leander Reininghaus - DE=20
Sjaak Overgaauw - BE
Massimo Liverani IT
Paolo Cimmino IT
Fabio Anile IT

So, if you are near Rome or Florence in those days, come and say =
"hallo",
or...if you are far away from here, say "good luck" and do please =
support
the show promoting it trough your blogs, web sites, etc...
Web site here: www.livelooping.it  =20
and friendship is welcomed here: www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest

Hope to see you there.

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Fabio excellent!  Congrats to you and Sjaak on getting this gathering
together.  Wish much Good Luck on "in Rome", neat title.
Jim

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:41 AM, eterogeneo <info@eterogeneo.com> wrote:

>  Hi all,
> finally I can announce that the Italian Live Looping Festival - part of t=
he
> European Live Looping Festival '09  Sjaak Overgaauw and me are working on=
  -
> is ready to go.
>
> The *First International Live Looping Festival - "in Rome"*  will be
> announced in *Florence on 3th* *June *in a  promotional - improvised musi=
c
> show kindly hosted by Massimo Liverani and the Koan Loop Ensemble.
>
> *The main Festival, will **take place in Rome on 6ht june 2009 at the
> DimmiDiS=EC club*.
> This is the *line up:*
> Rick Walker - USA -*head liner*
> Michael Peters - DE - *featured performer*
> Per Boysen - SE - *featured performer*
> Bernhar Wagner - CH
> Leander Reininghaus - DE
> Sjaak Overgaauw - BE
> Massimo Liverani IT
> Paolo Cimmino IT
> Fabio Anile IT
>
> So, if you are near Rome or Florence in those days, come and say "hallo",
> or...if you are far away from here, say "good luck" and do please support
> the show promoting it trough your blogs, web sites, etc...
> Web site here: www.livelooping.it
> and friendship is welcomed here: www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest
>
> Hope to see you there.
>
> Fabio
> www.livelooping.it
> www.eterogeneo.com
> www.myspace.com/eterogeneo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Fabio excellent! =A0Congrats to you and Sjaak on getting this gathering tog=
ether. =A0Wish much Good Luck on &quot;in Rome&quot;, neat title.<div><br><=
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Hi all, </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">finally I can announce t=
hat the=20
Italian Live Looping Festival -=A0part of the European Live Looping Festiva=
l=20
&#39;09 =A0Sjaak Overgaauw and me are working on=A0 - is ready to=20
go.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">The <strong>First Intern=
ational=20
Live Looping Festival <em>- &quot;in Rome&quot;</em></strong>=A0 will be an=
nounced in=20
<strong>Florence on 3th</strong> <strong>June=A0</strong>in a=20
=A0promotional=A0- improvised=A0music show kindly hosted by Massimo=20
Liverani and the Koan Loop Ensemble.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua"><font color=3D"#000080"></font></font>=A0<=
/div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua"><font color=3D"#000080"><strong>The main F=
estival,=20
will </strong><font><strong>take place in Rome on 6ht june 2009 at the Dimm=
iDiS=EC=20
club</strong>.</font></font></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">This is the <strong>line=
=20
up:</strong></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Rick Walker - USA -<em>h=
ead=20
liner</em></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Michael Peters - DE - <e=
m>featured=20
performer</em></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Per Boysen - SE - <em>fe=
atured=20
performer</em></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua"><font color=3D"#000080">Bernhar Wagner -=
=20
CH</font></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua"><font color=3D"#000080">Leander Reininghau=
s - DE=20
</font></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Sjaak Overgaauw - BE</fo=
nt></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Massimo Liverani IT</fon=
t></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Paolo Cimmino IT</font><=
/div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Fabio <span>Anile</span>=
=20
IT</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">So, if you are near Rome=
 or=20
Florence in those days,=A0come and say &quot;hallo&quot;,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">or...if you are far away=
 from here,=20
say &quot;good luck&quot; and do please </font><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" =
color=3D"#000080">support</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">the show promoting it tr=
ough your=20
blogs, web sites, etc...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Web site here: <a href=
=3D"http://www.livelooping.it" target=3D"_blank">www.livelooping.it</a>=A0=
=A0=20
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">and friendship is welcom=
ed=20
here:=A0<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest" target=
=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest</a></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Hope to see you there.</=
font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080">Fabio <br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.livelooping.it/" target=3D"_blank">www.livelooping.it</a></font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080"><a href=3D"http://www.et=
erogeneo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.eterogeneo.com</a></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080"><a href=3D"http://www.my=
space.com/eterogeneo" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/eterogeneo</a></fon=
t></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080"><br>=A0</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D"#000080"></font>=A0</div>
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Good luck on this festival !
Wish I could be there, maybe next year with my own microphonics tour !

Dirk.

> Hi all,
> finally I can announce that the Italian Live Looping Festival - part of
> the European Live Looping Festival '09  Sjaak Overgaauw and me are working
> on  - is ready to go.
>
> The First International Live Looping Festival - "in Rome"  will be
> announced in Florence on 3th June in a  promotional - improvised music
> show kindly hosted by Massimo Liverani and the Koan Loop Ensemble.
>
> The main Festival, will take place in Rome on 6ht june 2009 at the
> DimmiDiSì club.
> This is the line up:
> Rick Walker - USA -head liner
> Michael Peters - DE - featured performer
> Per Boysen - SE - featured performer
> Bernhar Wagner - CH
> Leander Reininghaus - DE
> Sjaak Overgaauw - BE
> Massimo Liverani IT
> Paolo Cimmino IT
> Fabio Anile IT
>
> So, if you are near Rome or Florence in those days, come and say "hallo",
> or...if you are far away from here, say "good luck" and do please support
> the show promoting it trough your blogs, web sites, etc...
> Web site here: www.livelooping.it
> and friendship is welcomed here: www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest
>
> Hope to see you there.
>
> Fabio
> www.livelooping.it
> www.eterogeneo.com
> www.myspace.com/eterogeneo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


www.fearfallsburning.be
read the blog : http://fearfallsburning.blogspot.com/
www.myspace.com/fearfallsburning

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Fabio,

Congratulations and good luck with the festival.

Some day I'll have to make it over to Europe.

Best regards,

Ted

On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:41 AM, eterogeneo wrote:

> Hi all,
> finally I can announce that the Italian Live Looping Festival -=A0part=20=

> of the European Live Looping Festival '09 =A0Sjaak Overgaauw and me =
are=20
> working on=A0 - is ready to go.
> =A0
> The First International Live Looping Festival - "in Rome"=A0 will be=20=

> announced in  Florence on 3th June=A0in a =A0promotional=A0-=20
> improvised=A0music show kindly hosted by Massimo Liverani and the Koan=20=

> Loop Ensemble.
> =A0
> The main Festival, will take place in Rome on 6ht june 2009 at the=20
> DimmiDiS=EC club.
> This is the line up:
> Rick Walker - USA -head liner
> Michael Peters - DE - featured performer
> Per Boysen - SE - featured performer
> Bernhar Wagner - CH
> Leander Reininghaus - DE
> Sjaak Overgaauw - BE
> Massimo Liverani IT
> Paolo Cimmino IT
> Fabio Anile IT
> =A0
> So, if you are near Rome or Florence in those days,=A0come and say=20
> "hallo",
> or...if you are far away from here, say "good luck" and do please=20
> support
> the show promoting it trough your blogs, web sites, etc...
> Web site here: www.livelooping.it=A0=A0
> and friendship is welcomed=20
> here:=A0www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest
> =A0
> Hope to see you there.
> =A0
> Fabio
> www.livelooping.it
> www.eterogeneo.com
> www.myspace.com/eterogeneo
> =A0
>
> =A0
>
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
>
>

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Dirk, Ted, you are welcome !
I hope it will be a success: if so, it would be easy to get some founds or 
sponsor to help you getting here.

Hope it'll be possible in the future ;-)
Fabio


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Fabio,

Congratulations and good luck with the festival.

Some day I'll have to make it over to Europe.

Best regards,

Ted

On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:41 AM, eterogeneo wrote:

> Hi all,
> finally I can announce that the Italian Live Looping Festival - part
> of the European Live Looping Festival '09 Sjaak Overgaauw and me are
> working on - is ready to go.
>
> The First International Live Looping Festival - "in Rome" will be
> announced in  Florence on 3th June in a promotional -
> improvised music show kindly hosted by Massimo Liverani and the Koan
> Loop Ensemble.
>
> The main Festival, will take place in Rome on 6ht june 2009 at the
> DimmiDiSì club.
> This is the line up:
> Rick Walker - USA -head liner
> Michael Peters - DE - featured performer
> Per Boysen - SE - featured performer
> Bernhar Wagner - CH
> Leander Reininghaus - DE
> Sjaak Overgaauw - BE
> Massimo Liverani IT
> Paolo Cimmino IT
> Fabio Anile IT
>
> So, if you are near Rome or Florence in those days, come and say
> "hallo",
> or...if you are far away from here, say "good luck" and do please
> support
> the show promoting it trough your blogs, web sites, etc...
> Web site here: www.livelooping.it
> and friendship is welcomed
> here: www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest
>
> Hope to see you there.
>
> Fabio
> www.livelooping.it
> www.eterogeneo.com
> www.myspace.com/eterogeneo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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congratulations to Berlin based jazz guitarist and livelooper Andreas
Willers whose recent "Drowning Migrant" CD has been nicely reviewed in WIRE.
Haven't heard it myself but if this music is even remotely similar to what
Andreas played last June on the Berlin livelooping festival (and the review
suggest that it is), I need a copy. Andreas are you really an "Austrian
guitarist"? I didn't know that.

Michael Peters

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Subject: 04.30.09 > The PiNG presents THE CRUELLEST MONTH with Flowers Of Hell + Beta Cloud + General Chaos Visuals
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

THiS THURSDAY APRiL 30TH . THE PiNG presents
THE CRUELLEST MONTH featuring FLOWERS OF HELL
+ BETA CLOUD + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS
@ The Renaissance Caf=E9 . 1938 Danforth Avenue . north side,
   2 blocks west of the Woodbine Subway . Map and directions
   at: http://www.renaissancecafe.ca/map.htm
   PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set is at 8:30 . $6

. 8.30 . Beta Cloud is C.Pace; a western classical & jazz educated
performer. Beta Cloud aims to span the sonic ground between
avant/improv/instrumental performance and ambient/drone/dj
sound installation. All compositions are performed improvised in
real time. Noise, hiss, and dynamic peaks, sub and supersonics
are intentional and controlled to ensure a maximum lo-fi listening
experience. The aim of Beta Cloud is to provide intensity,
relaxation, positive aggression, and a sense of passionate
response to all listeners. http://www.myspace.com/thebetacloud

. 9.30 . Flowers Of Hell . Based in London and Toronto, the
Flowers Of Hell are a trans-Atlantic experimental orchestra who
explore the intersecting points of classical & blues-based musical
forms. Built around timbre-to-shape synaesthetic visions, their
April 2009 CD & LP 'Come Hell Or High Water' features collaborators
from the Patti Smith Group, John Cale=92s band, Spiritualized,
Broken Social Scene, & others. Pete =91 Sonic Boom=92 Kember of
Spacemen 3 & E.A.R. has mentored them through their two albums,
and after catching a number of London shows, Kevin Shields had
them open for My Bloody Valentine last fall. With an eight member
line up, they will be eschewing their regular set for a special
AMBiENT PiNG performance of =91Swings And Roundabouts=92, a semi-
structured/semi-improvised work lasting 30 - 40 mins. The piece
is a journey through layers of drones rising, falling, & evolving,
while strings, horns, & woodwinds exchange solos overtop,
interspersed with feedback guitar, orchestral drums, singing saw,
and various tremeloed instruments. http://www.flowersofhell.com

. General Chaos Visuals will provide the eye candy for the evening
by painting the walls and the performers with their unique brand
of light art. http://www.generalchaosvisuals.com

. Between Sets CDs . Come early to experience a heady dose of
Steve Roach's magnificent new double album of deep ambience
"Dynamic Stillness". We'll also be featuring tracks from
"Description Without Place" by Filaments (a Canadian/Australian
collaboration), "Heim" by Iceland's Sigur Ros and "Secret Land"
by Building Castles Out Of Matchsticks.
http://www.steveroach.com     http://www.sigurros.com
http://www.dataobscura.com/proddetail.php?prod=3DDO-034
http://www.myspace.com/buildingcastlesoutofmatchsticks

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

COMiNG iN MAY . 05.27.09 . RADiO iN AMBiENCE
A special presentation for DEEP WIRELESS in collaboration
with NEW ADVENTURES IN SOUND ART featuring
KRISTEN ROOS + NILAN PERERA
@ THE NAISA SPACE . Artscape Wychwood Barns
   601 Christie Street . Studio #252
   (2 blocks south of St. Clair W.)
   more details soon @ http://www.theambientping.com
   http://www.naisa.ca/deepwireless

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

ALSO iN MAY

NEW ADVENTURES IN SOUND ART presents the
DEEP WIRELESS festival of Radio & Transmission Art
8th Anniversary - May 1 - 31, 2009

A month-long celebration of radio and transmission art including
performances, installations, broadcasts, workshops, a Youth
Radio residency and the Radio Without Boundaries conference
(May 28-30). Performance dates are May 3, 7, 8, 10, 22-24,
26-30 and installations are running throughout the month.
Featured artists include Beno=EEt Maubrey, Marie-Jos=E9e Chartier,
Brandon Labelle, Gregory Whitehead, Jessica Thompson,
Lisa Pijuan-Nomura, Kristen Roos, Fran=E7ois Girouard,
Chris Brookes, Hank Bull, Alessandro Bosetti, Marilyn Lerner,
Andrea Dancer, Tetsuo Kogawa, Nilan Perera, dreamSTATE and
many more. Deep Wireless/CBC Radios Outfront commissioned
artists for 2009 include H=E9l=E8ne Prevost, Paolo Pietropaolo,
Iain Reid and Andra McCartney.

On May 7th, dreamSTATE will take part in a realization of Alvin
Lucier's 'Quasimodo the Great Lover' directed by Matt Rogalsky
and Laura Cameron. Whale & bird sounds are transformed by their
passage through acoustic spaces and connected via the internet
across Lake Ontario & then down to the bottom of the Americas in
Beunos Aires. Nurturing the giant soundloop will be dreamSTATE
at the NAISA space in Toronto, Gayle Young/Reinhardt Reitzenstein
in Grimsby, Laura Kavanagh/Ian Birse in Buenos Aires and Matt
Rogalsky/Laura Cameron in Kingston. Afterwards dreamSTATE
plugs their synths, samplers, sequencers and efx into the
stream to perform a set of soundscapes and pulses for those
in attendance at the NAISA space. The live stream of these
performances will be broadcast via http://webcast.naisa.ca

As mentioned above, on May 27th, THE AMBiENT PiNG presents
RADiO iN AMBiENCE once again as part of the Deep Wireless
festival. Listen to Vancouver sound/radio artist Kristen Roos
& Toronto artist Nilan Perera as they each perform a set to
coax the radio ether into an outer-worldly electro ambient chill.

More details about Deep Wireless at the New Adventures In
Sound Art website: http://www.naisa.ca/deepwireless

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of
audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG
presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic,
soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo,
darkwave and experimental artists from around the world.
http://www.theambientping.com

ViSiT ping things for ambient, electronic and chill things:
http://www.pingthings.com

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or
appropriate newsgroups. Thanks.

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> tEd R KiLLiAn wrote:
> Some day I'll have to make it over to Europe.

Europe is the place to be Ted! But I must admit California is still the =
no.1
live looping place on earth ;)=20
---=20
Sjaak
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20
http://euroloopfest.com/=20
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Fabio,
Fantastic website, looks good! Btw: I've updated my festival site, check =
out
<http://euroloopfest.com/> http://euroloopfest.com/ for all the links to =
the
individual festivals and information. So....looks like we have to wait =
for 4
weeks before we hit the live looping road :)=20

---
Sjaak
 <http://sjaakovergaauw.com/> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
 <http://euroloopfest.com/> http://euroloopfest.com/
 <http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw> =
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Great job Fabio!too bad i cant make it to Rome this year;-(

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Mon, 4/27/09, eterogeneo <info@eterogeneo.com> wrote:

> From: eterogeneo <info@eterogeneo.com>
> Subject: - "in Rome"  - part of the European Live Looping Festival '09 -
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, ambient@hyperreal.org
> Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:41 AM
>=20
>=20
> =20
> =20
>=20
>=20
> =20
> Hi all,
>=20
> finally I
> can announce that the=20
> Italian Live Looping Festival -=A0part of the European
> Live Looping Festival=20
> '09 =A0Sjaak Overgaauw and me are working on=A0 -
> is ready to=20
> go.
> =A0
> The
> First International=20
> Live Looping Festival - "in
> Rome"=A0 will be announced in=20
> Florence on 3th
> June=A0in a=20
> =A0promotional=A0- improvised=A0music show kindly
> hosted by Massimo=20
> Liverani and the Koan Loop Ensemble.
> =A0
> The main Festival,=20
> will take place in Rome on 6ht june
> 2009 at the DimmiDiS=EC=20
> club.
> This is the
> line=20
> up:
> Rick Walker
> - USA -head=20
> liner
> Michael
> Peters - DE - featured=20
> performer
> Per Boysen -
> SE - featured=20
> performer
> Bernhar Wagner -=20
> CH
> Leander Reininghaus - DE=20
>=20
> Sjaak
> Overgaauw - BE
> Massimo
> Liverani IT
> Paolo
> Cimmino IT
> Fabio
> Anile=20
> IT
> =A0
> So, if you
> are near Rome or=20
> Florence in those days,=A0come and say
> "hallo",
> or...if you
> are far away from here,=20
> say "good luck" and do please support
> the show
> promoting it trough your=20
> blogs, web sites, etc...
> Web site
> here: www.livelooping.it=A0=A0
>=20
>=20
> and
> friendship is welcomed=20
> here:=A0www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfest
> =A0
> Hope to see
> you there.
> =A0
> Fabio=20
> www.livelooping.it
> www.eterogeneo.com
> www.myspace.com/eterogeneo
> =A0
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Native Instruments Battery maybe? i know is a breeze to use but not sure if=
 it will do what you are after.

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: super-simple vst sample recorder?
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 12:28 PM
> This is partly why I have a
> repeater.=A0 I can record sounds on a track
> with 0 volume and play them with my m-audio trigger finger,
> sending
> both pitch and volume with the touch sensitive pads.=A0
> I'd think you
> could find a software equivalent, but if not, I've had a
> lot of fun
> with this setup.
>=20
> Sylvain
>=20
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
> wrote:
> > I can't believe that I spent about 2 hours looking for
> this without success.
> > There are zillions of fancy vst effects and
> instruments out there for free,
> > but nothing like what I want. Any ideas where to
> look?
> >
> > I want a Windows VST sample recorder/player, not just
> a sample player but
> > something very simple that can record live input audio
> and then on a click
> > simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it
> polyphonically. I
> > thought this is not too much to ask but apparently
> nobody needs something
> > like this. It doesn't even have to be able to save the
> samples or load them,
> > or do anything fancy. Samplers like Kontakt are way
> too complex and big, I
> > thought of something really basic and small (and free,
> of course). But I
> > couldn't find anything.
> >
> > -Michael
> >
> >
> >
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That seems to be, what you are looking for, isn=B4t it? (the fx =
version!)
http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/xfadelooper.html
I found it here, there will be maybe other solutions for you:
http://www.vstcentral.com/plugins.aspx?mode=3D1&search=3Dsampler&perPage=3D=
20

I didnot try any of them, cause ableton live has a simple sampler =20
(simpler) on board, where you can easily drop a sample you just =20
recorded.
hope that helps,
Omid

audio visual artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223

Am 28.04.2009 um 02:01 schrieb L.Angulo:

>
> Native Instruments Battery maybe? i know is a breeze to use but not =20=

> sure if it will do what you are after.
>
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> =20
> wrote:
>
>> From: Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: super-simple vst sample recorder?
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 12:28 PM
>> This is partly why I have a
>> repeater.  I can record sounds on a track
>> with 0 volume and play them with my m-audio trigger finger,
>> sending
>> both pitch and volume with the touch sensitive pads.
>> I'd think you
>> could find a software equivalent, but if not, I've had a
>> lot of fun
>> with this setup.
>>
>> Sylvain
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
>> wrote:
>>> I can't believe that I spent about 2 hours looking for
>> this without success.
>>> There are zillions of fancy vst effects and
>> instruments out there for free,
>>> but nothing like what I want. Any ideas where to
>> look?
>>>
>>> I want a Windows VST sample recorder/player, not just
>> a sample player but
>>> something very simple that can record live input audio
>> and then on a click
>>> simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it
>> polyphonically. I
>>> thought this is not too much to ask but apparently
>> nobody needs something
>>> like this. It doesn't even have to be able to save the
>> samples or load them,
>>> or do anything fancy. Samplers like Kontakt are way
>> too complex and big, I
>>> thought of something really basic and small (and free,
>> of course). But I
>>> couldn't find anything.
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">That seems to be, what you are =
looking for, isn=B4t it? (the fx version!)<div><a =
href=3D"http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/xfadelooper.html">http://www.expe=
rt-sleepers.co.uk/xfadelooper.html</a></div><div>I found it here, there =
will be maybe other solutions for you:<br><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.vstcentral.com/plugins.aspx?mode=3D1&amp;search=3Dsampl=
er&amp;perPage=3D20">http://www.vstcentral.com/plugins.aspx?mode=3D1&amp;s=
earch=3Dsampler&amp;perPage=3D20</a></div><div><br></div><div>I didnot =
try any of them, cause ableton live has a simple sampler (simpler) on =
board, where you can easily drop a sample you just =
recorded.</div><div>hope that =
helps,</div><div>Omid</div><div><br></div><div><div =
apple-content-edited=3D"true"><div><div>audio visual =
artist</div><div>mailto: <a =
href=3D"mailto:smoking@guru-records.com">smoking@guru-records.com</a></div=
><div>phone: +49-178-78 52 223</div></div> </div><br><div><div>Am =
28.04.2009 um 02:01 schrieb L.Angulo:</div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><br>Native Instruments Battery maybe? i know is a =
breeze to use but not sure if it will do what you are after.<br><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom">www.myspace.com/luisanguloco=
m</a><br><br><br>--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Sylvain Poitras =
&lt;sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">From: Sylvain Poitras =
&lt;sylvain.trombone@gmail.com><br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Subject: Re: super-simple vst sample =
recorder?<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">To: =
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 12:28 =
PM<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">This is partly why I have =
a<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">repeater.&nbsp; I can record =
sounds on a track<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">with 0 =
volume and play them with my m-audio trigger =
finger,<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">sending<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">both =
pitch and volume with the touch sensitive =
pads.&nbsp;<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">I'd think =
you<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">could find a software =
equivalent, but if not, I've had a<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">lot of fun<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">with =
this setup.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Sylvain<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sun, Apr 26, =
2009 at 1:53 PM, Michael Peters =
&lt;mp@mpeters.de><br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite">I can't believe that I spent about 2 hours looking =
for<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">this without =
success.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">There are zillions of fancy vst effects =
and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">instruments =
out there for free,<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">but nothing like what I want. Any ideas where =
to<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">look?<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">I want a Windows VST sample =
recorder/player, not just<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">a sample player but<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">something very simple that can =
record live input audio<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">and then on a click<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">simply spread it across the =
keyboard to play with it<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">polyphonically. I<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">thought this is not too much to =
ask but apparently<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">nobody needs something<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">like this. It doesn't even have =
to be able to save the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">samples or load them,<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">or do anything fancy. Samplers =
like Kontakt are way<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">too complex and big, I<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">thought of something really =
basic and small (and free,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">of course). But I<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">couldn't find =
anything.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">-Michael<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><br><br><br><br></div></blockquote></div><b=
r></div></div></body></html>=

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noticed that friendly looping plugin angstrolooper doesn't appear in
the software loopers list on LD.

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> noticed that friendly looping plugin angstrolooper doesn't appear in
> the software loopers list on LD.

This was a plug-in specifically made for Ableton Live long ago. Does
it really offer different options than Aleton's built-in plug-in
"Looper"? When using Looper it's more like the complete application
Live works like a looper/sampler.

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:01 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Native Instruments Battery maybe? i know is a breeze to use but not sure if it will do what you are after.

No. The question was about something for Windows in the VST format
that can sample from a live input. Not play back stored files from the
hard drive. (But as drum sequencing sound source Battery is very
special and loved by many)

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Thank you both very much for your kind comments! I was performing as part of
the annual Enterprise Festival at The Space, London. Not a very good venue
as they didn't seem to understand why we couldn't "make do with two mono
channels" rather than stereo and went through 3 desks before the sound
worked!

The gig went well and it's in preparation for my return to the Edinburgh
Fringe Festival in August. I am continuing to try to expand my looping into
all the various instruments I use on stage (voice, keyboard, hammered
dulcimer, guitar, electric violin, flute, tin whistle etc), which has been
quite a challenge!

Thank you for getting in touch - comments always appreciated :)

Kayla

On Apr 28, 2009 9:43 AM, "Christo Jota" <chris@christojota.de> wrote:

 Hi Kayla,
very interesting. Great to see that there are so many different ways of
using
looping. From noisy stuff - just performed by Robert Zori and Sunao Inami in
Japan -
to melodic tracks with mellow flute tunes performed by you.
What venue was it in London?
Nice day!
Christo
www.christojota.de


> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kayla Kavanagh > To:
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 2:59 PM > Subject: Kayla Kavanagh - live
looping videos >

> A couple of excerpts from my show in London last week: > >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnKTJlSs...

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<p>Thank you both very much for your kind comments! I was performing as par=
t of the annual Enterprise Festival at The Space, London. Not a very good v=
enue as they didn&#39;t seem to understand why we couldn&#39;t &quot;make d=
o with two mono channels&quot; rather than stereo and went through 3 desks =
before the sound worked!</p>

<p>The gig went well and it&#39;s in preparation for my return to the Edinb=
urgh Fringe Festival in August. I am continuing to try to expand my looping=
 into all the various instruments I use on stage (voice, keyboard, hammered=
 dulcimer, guitar, electric violin, flute, tin whistle etc), which has been=
 quite a challenge!</p>

<p>Thank you for getting in touch - comments always appreciated :)</p>
<p>Kayla</p>
<p><blockquote>On Apr 28, 2009 9:43 AM, &quot;Christo Jota&quot; &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:chris@christojota.de">chris@christojota.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br><b=
r>





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi Kayla,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">very interesting. Great to see that th=
ere are so=20
many different ways of using</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">looping. From noisy stuff - just perfo=
rmed by=20
Robert Zori and Sunao Inami in Japan -</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">to melodic tracks with mellow flute tu=
nes performed=20
by you.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">What venue was it in London?</font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Nice day!</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Christo</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><a href=3D"http://www.christojota.de" =
target=3D"_blank">www.christojota.de</a></font></div>
<div>=A0</div>
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ight:0px;padding-left:5px;padding-right:0px"><p><font color=3D"#500050">
&gt;
&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; From: Kayla Kavanagh
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Del=
ight@loopers-delight.com</a></font></p><p><font color=3D"#500050">
&gt; Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 2:59 PM
&gt; Subject: Kayla Kavanagh - live looping videos
&gt;
</font></p><p><font color=3D"#500050">&gt; A couple of excerpts from my sho=
w in London last week:
&gt;
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPnKTJlSs.">http://www.yout=
ube.com/watch?v=3DPnKTJlSs.</a>..</font></p></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></p>

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well, i use it in bidule for simple loopery and it has not reported
any wish to be inside ableton's :-)

plugins.timeshard.com/angstrolooper/

ra=FCl.

2009/4/28, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>> noticed that friendly looping plugin angstrolooper doesn't appear in
>> the software loopers list on LD.
>
> This was a plug-in specifically made for Ableton Live long ago. Does
> it really offer different options than Aleton's built-in plug-in
> "Looper"? When using Looper it's more like the complete application
> Live works like a looper/sampler.
>
> --
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>
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> www.perboysen.com
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this is free and polyphonic ...

buffersynth2
http://www.niallmoody.com/ndcplugs/

2009/4/28, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:01 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Native Instruments Battery maybe? i know is a breeze to use but not sure
>> if it will do what you are after.
>
> No. The question was about something for Windows in the VST format
> that can sample from a live input. Not play back stored files from the
> hard drive. (But as drum sequencing sound source Battery is very
> special and loved by many)
>
> --
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>
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Todd Pafford schrieb:
> Now, the downside is the learning curve.  Ultimately, the input
> language is very powerful and pretty easy to use once you get used to
> it, but for a beginner it's a pain in the rear.

Its a purely technical language for typesetters. It lacks any user 
interface, at least what I'd call a user interface for notation.
Even installing it requires a lot of computer administration skills. Its 
not made for musicians... Just reading the install instructions let me 
put it away...
Maybe if it gets more spread, someone is willing to program a front end, 
which could compete with the old Overture from Opcode.
I mean the simplest user interface would be to feed it with a midi file 
and let it just print. Don't know if its capable of doing so. I can also 
imagine a LyX like application for typesetting music.
(LyX is a front end for TeX...)

Stefan

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Ableton Live has a sampler that does just that!  But yes, you have to use
Ableton Live to make use of it.

Does seem odd that there isn't such a vst in standalone, or at least that
I'm aware of.

-nn
happyhumans.org

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

> I can't believe that I spent about 2 hours looking for this without
> success.
> There are zillions of fancy vst effects and instruments out there for free,
> but nothing like what I want. Any ideas where to look?
>
> I want a Windows VST sample recorder/player, not just a sample player but
> something very simple that can record live input audio and then on a click
> simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it polyphonically. I
> thought this is not too much to ask but apparently nobody needs something
> like this. It doesn't even have to be able to save the samples or load
> them,
> or do anything fancy. Samplers like Kontakt are way too complex and big, I
> thought of something really basic and small (and free, of course). But I
> couldn't find anything.
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> -Michael
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Ableton Live has a sampler that does just that!=A0 But yes, you have to use=
 Ableton Live to make use of it.<br><br>Does seem odd that there isn&#39;t =
such a vst in standalone, or at least that I&#39;m aware of.<br><br>-nn<br>
<a href=3D"http://happyhumans.org">happyhumans.org</a><br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Michael Peters <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mp@mpeters.de">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I can&#39;t belie=
ve that I spent about 2 hours looking for this without success.<br>
There are zillions of fancy vst effects and instruments out there for free,=
<br>
but nothing like what I want. Any ideas where to look?<br>
<br>
I want a Windows VST sample recorder/player, not just a sample player but<b=
r>
something very simple that can record live input audio and then on a click<=
br>
simply spread it across the keyboard to play with it polyphonically. I<br>
thought this is not too much to ask but apparently nobody needs something<b=
r>
like this. It doesn&#39;t even have to be able to save the samples or load =
them,<br>
or do anything fancy. Samplers like Kontakt are way too complex and big, I<=
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thought of something really basic and small (and free, of course). But I<br=
>
couldn&#39;t find anything.<br>
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> this is free and polyphonic ... buffersynth2
> http://www.niallmoody.com/ndcplugs/

ndc's Buffersynth was one of the vsts that I tried and it fell through but I
can't remember for what reason.

So far, Os's xfadelooper is the only vst that does what I need. I still find
it hard to believe.

-Michael

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Here I use "undo" on the EDP a lot=2C I managed to build up a nice funky rh=
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While gooling on youtube I finally re-discovered this video of Per Boysen,
Fabio Anile and Rick Walker. I think we should make some more of these in
Antwerp and Rome ;)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt4duwcLfHAr

--- 
Sjaak
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ 
http://euroloopfest.com/ 
http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw



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I am unable to view that vid Sjaak, the link takes me to a generic "most 
Popular" page but no loopers in sight!
You wouldn't have another link would you?

best,

Jeff



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>
> While gooling on youtube I finally re-discovered this video of Per Boysen,
> Fabio Anile and Rick Walker. I think we should make some more of these in
> Antwerp and Rome ;)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt4duwcLfHAr
>
> --- 
> Sjaak
> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
> http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw
>
>
>
> 

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"Besides those questions, how difficult is the overall learning curve on 
the LP-1?"

For what it's worth,   the first year that I demoed the LP-1 at NAMM,  
my Berhringer
FCB 1010 midi pedals had a malfunction so I had to borrow either my 
brother's or Bob Amstadts's
pedals to do my demo at the very last minute.   I was, quite frankly,  
freaked out and thought
I wouldn't be able to do a good demo because my pedals wouldn't be 
programmed in time.

I had 10 minutes until my demonstration with no programming connection 
between the LP-1
and the FCB 1010.

I programmed four banks of highly organized functions in less than ten 
minutes
to spare (and I didn't even know how to do the programming very well at 
the time).

It's, simply put,  the easiest live looping hardware device I've ever 
encountered to use.
It's just incredibly intuitive from where I sit and I never have to futz 
around with
midi implementation on any of the midi footpedals I've used (2 or 3).

It deserves the highest marks for ease of use, imho.

Rick Walker

ps  by the way,   as a member of the LP-1 community, I"m proud to say that
Bob wrote in an idea I heavily lobbied  for to it's software this past 
week so you can now use
your midi footpedals to play your loops like a 'mellotron' in a 
chromatic way.

The Berhringer FCB 1010 has ten pedals so I have an octave down, an 
octave above and
every single melodic pitch I want in any scale on one bank of pedal 
moves................
tres cool  (and something, it has to be mentioned that I believe Per 
Boysen has already scripted
into Mobius).

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On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> ps =C2=A0by the way, =C2=A0 as a member of the LP-1 community, I"m proud =
to say that
> Bob wrote in an idea I heavily lobbied =C2=A0for to it's software this pa=
st week
> so you can now use
> your midi footpedals to play your loops like a 'mellotron' in a chromatic
> way.
>
> The Berhringer FCB 1010 has ten pedals so I have an octave down, an octav=
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> above and
> every single melodic pitch I want in any scale on one bank of pedal
> moves................
> tres cool =C2=A0(and something, it has to be mentioned that I believe Per=
 Boysen
> has already scripted
> into Mobius).


Actually this kind of looping wasn't something that came with Mobius
for me. I started playing "chromatic looper scales" on the Repeater
eight years ago. Then I got rid of the 'peater and used Augustus Loop
for that (in combo with an EDP). I tend to use that technique rather
for "chord progressions" than for "scales".

--=20
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Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com

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> I am unable to view that vid Sjaak, the link takes me to a generic "mos=
t 
> Popular" page but no loopers in sight!
> You wouldn't have another link would you?

Thanks Jeff. You have to remove the last "r", so this is the correct one:=


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dmt4duwcLfHA

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> Rick Walker wrote:
> ps  by the way,   as a member of the LP-1 community, I"m proud to say t=
hat
> Bob wrote in an idea I heavily lobbied  for to it's software this past =

> week so you can now use
> your midi footpedals to play your loops like a 'mellotron' in a 
> chromatic way.

Great idea Rick, I already quickly tested it :) I was just wondering in w=
hat way this new feature differs from programming a Midi CC pedal with va=
lue 84 which is about a Fith. That was my own implementation of this feat=
ure. 

Btw: Bob, would it be possibe to sync the start of the speed change? That=
 would allow you to create real interesting rhythmic pitch changes.
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> Even installing it requires a lot of computer administration skills. Its 
> not made for musicians... 

Well, if you approach it this way, you could as well say "software looping is not made for musicians".

But seriuosly:
I have wasted so much time in the past with graphical user-interfaces that just didn't work exactly / took too much time for notation.
After the initial learning curve, Lilypond has made my life much easier.

Also, the jEdit LilypondTool provides a very useful user interface. Installation is not that hard:
- Install Lilypond (http://lilypond.org/web/install/ )
- Install jEdit (http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download )
- Install LilypondTool automatically with jEdit plugin manager 
(follow instructions: http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/86.html)

Use excellent Lilypond documentation (http://lilypond.org) to get started.


Anyway, I don't want to convert anyone who is happy with Sibelius etc. Just want to encourage you to test it if you haven't quite found the right notation tool/approach.

best regards
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Hi Loopers

so, the bass player I play started using Ableton Live 8, finally embracing live looping.
Now, the question is: How should we two loop? 
- Is it an option to loop together on the Live 8?
- Does it make sense to connect to midi foot pedals to Ableton?
- Or should I just loop on my RC-50 (midi sync/no sync)?

I guess we'll experiment, was just interested in your thoughts or experience with "tandem loooping" on a single looper with one/two midi foot pedals.

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On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> so, the bass player I play started using Ableton Live 8, finally embracing live looping.
> Now, the question is: How should we two loop?
> - Is it an option to loop together on the Live 8?

Yes, that's definitely possible! The computer would need an audio
interface that can give you guys one input each. Then you simply route
those two inputs audio into two looper plug-ins -  one each. And then
you make sure your two MIDI pedals are not sending the same events
over the same MIDI channel, when you assign who of you is going to
externally control what software function.

> - Does it make sense to connect to midi foot pedals to Ableton?

Yes. MIDI foot pedals is a powerful way of controlling whatever
processing done in Live.

> - Or should I just loop on my RC-50 (midi sync/no sync)?

Hard to tell you what you "should do". If you want to use the RC-50 I
assume the best setup would be to run it as the MIDI Clock sync slave
to Live.

-- 
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Per Boysen
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Subject: "in Rome Loopfestival" - Blog
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:53 PM, eterogeneo <info@eterogeneo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> this is to let you know that I'd like to=C2=A0keep trace of any=C2=A0new =
regarding the
> Festival from here to the "post-festival",
> so I started a blog here: http://livelooping.blogspot.com/,
> Your comments are welcome.


Great move! I'll see if I can think about something to write. Hmm...
maybe I should create another identity to post under? I mean it may
look funny if the same guys that will perform at the festival are
posting "in person" on the blogg? Or am I wrong here?

BTW - today I too published info on the Rome festival on my two bloggs
below. One in English and one in Swedish. Anyone who likes is of
course welcome to post there!

--=20
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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cool pic! subscribed & following.
great job fabio.


2009/4/29, eterogeneo <info@eterogeneo.com>:
> Hi,
> this is to let you know that I'd like to keep trace of any new regarding the
> Festival from here to the "post-festival",
> so I started a blog here: http://livelooping.blogspot.com/,
> Your comments are welcome.
>
> Fabio
> www.livelooping.it
> www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfestival
> www.eterogeneo.com
> www.myspace.com/eterogeneo
>
>


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thanks Sjaak, that is the one I was looking for myself. Very cool.

Jeff

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> I am unable to view that vid Sjaak, the link takes me to a generic "most 
> Popular" page but no loopers in sight!
> You wouldn't have another link would you?

Thanks Jeff. You have to remove the last "r", so this is the correct one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt4duwcLfHA

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Great move! I'll see if I can think about something to write. Hmm...
maybe I should create another identity to post under? I mean it may
look funny if the same guys that will perform at the festival are
posting "in person" on the blogg? Or am I wrong here?

Why not ? I don't think it's funny if you post unfder your real name

BTW - today I too published info on the Rome festival on my two bloggs
below. One in English and one in Swedish. Anyone who likes is of
course welcome to post there!

Thanks fro spreading !

-- 
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




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Hi Per

> > - Does it make sense to connect to midi foot pedals to Ableton?
was supposed to be "...connect TWO midi foot pedals..." - I guess it should work.

>  If you want to use the RC-50 I
> assume the best setup would be to run it as the MIDI Clock sync slave
> to Live.

I've never tried it. But from what I hear, the RC50 doesn't like being slave...

thanks
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> I've never tried it. But from what I hear, the RC50 doesn't like being slave...

It says so at Boss' web site, but they are of course biased. Best way
to find out is to try it! I've see an RC50 do well as sync  Master
once when helping a theater ensamble to bring an RC50 into a show; a
guitarist was using an Adrennalinn and it followed the RC50 fine.

-- 
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Hi Gang,
I am selling my RME 800 fireface,unfortunately the motherboard needs to be =
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contact me offline if u are interested
cheers
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> I've see an RC50 do well as sync  Master

Yeah, master would be fine. Though it's a bit tricky since the bass player is looping the whole rhythm section...
We'll have to experiment with that.

Or I'll just play without syncing...

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Par votre hôte Adama Kabore:


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     Rue:		I am Mr ADAMA KABORE here in Ouagadougou Burkina Faso. I want to,introduce this to your company because I know that your company will be capable to handle it. A local community here want to sign a contract with any person who will be interested in extracting gold in their land. 1. That the person will extract the gold and export it by himself ,2. That the contract will be for 25 years , 3. That when the person comes the both parties will now work on their conditions Which means that you will have to register a company here and get the mining license with the exporting license as well so that you do not work with any middle man or third party which gives confidence. I will be ready to assist you in doing your registration of company and getting all the licenses and governments documents for the operation. BRegards, Looking forward tohearing from you. ADAMA KABORE

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