From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 00:38:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E64003BE88; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 00:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: X-Y vector pad for MIDI foot control? Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:38:48 -0800 Message-ID: <6A3BB399446946119BCA64FCE0976EB5@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C96B66.44793480" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AclrqU9VEmVpq+/YTMm2Z3Nl/ZkW8Q== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 00:38:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C96B66.44793480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You should see how he uses his tongue.. But seriously, did someone say Kaoss surface???? http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=nanoSeries its USB only... Happy New Year bill Whats so weird about that??? There WAS a time that I had lots of pedals with those soft rubbery covers on (that you USED to get everywhere.. havent seen em for a while) and be changing things with my toe the whole time... I get it was before everyone used Boss sized pedal.. kinda impossible with those knobs... m On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 7:00 PM, richard sales wrote: > Good grief Per! Use your TOE to control parameters? You ARE Superman!!! > R > richard sales > www.glasswing.com ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C96B66.44793480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You should see how = he uses his tongue…. But seriously, did someone say Kaoss surface???? http://= www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=3DnanoSeries  its USB only…..

 Happy New = Year

bill

 

 

 

 

 

Whats so weird = about that??? There WAS a time that I had lots of pedals with those soft rubbery = covers on (that you USED to get everywhere.. havent seen em for a while) and be = changing things with my toe the whole time... I get it was before everyone used = Boss sized pedal.. kinda impossible with those = knobs...

 

m

 

On Wed, Dec 31, = 2008 at 7:00 PM, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> = wrote:

> Good grief = Per!  Use your TOE to control parameters?  You ARE = Superman!!!

> = R

> richard = sales

> www.glasswing.com

------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C96B66.44793480-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 01:28:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BB2C3BE88; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 01:28:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Loren Claypool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <495AD0A6.3050606@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: WHAT STOMP BOXES ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH? was distortion,f overdrive, fuzz, crunc Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:28:45 -0600 References: <495AD0A6.3050606@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 01:28:43 +0000 (UTC) I am enjoying stomp boxes in the real and virtual worlds these days. Before I answer and the question as intended, I'm digging the models in my Pod X3 Pro, Pod X3 via Pod Farm, the new plug-ins in PT LE 8, a stack of VSTs via FXpansion VST->RTAS converter, and the SoundToys Native effects bundle. The SoundToys effects are stunning. To the question proper. I mix and match a wide variety of stomp boxes as the spirit moves me. The complete list in on the gear page at http://www.lorenclaypool.com . Right now I'm jacked up with the Korg mini-KP Kaoss Pad, Boss SP-303, vintage MXR 45 Phase Shifter, Boss DD-5 (in Aarset mode), Boss TR-2 Tremolo with aNaLoG.MaN Super Mod, and Boss DS-1 with aNaLoG.MaN Pro Midrange Mod. But that will all change tomorrow. I'm a huge fan of what aNaLoG.MaN does with Boss pedal mods. I'm also in love all over again with vintage MXR pedals - warm and luscious analog goodness. All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 02:04:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 825B33BE8E; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 02:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=JM2bfT/9oeIfLQv8prgFCZF4UyQBmsRCGqcIaQ+CCds=; b=H8pTeqtmPGfikhEH8lQLuRE2Ln4LXdFq/mOWBjvv4H6jri44TBP17dydHUUugD/p/Q Y0y1aOBuLT93262s94TIMK0hHfAh5Z7i1cyVPOFs/uLgyLZMV2He74jQulX9R1seiTC7 CjyWjdo9MSBBxpV31vdJnUsbfNYggwOOeUSbA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=N5rkSPbhB4uvVNW3VLEN75aJcT81+oaA+9DzmYc8jcLGZZefuNoMW1fHWHIa6iNU4y dltLeEi/95H4zmWMF1M89yCggB2Av8E8fFTGgi1GTmWtuKXalcQUyTeZbhoQ6GqAR8eg F7dQPkjb3nZ/xHx4gf9XVtIMMnRi21MSJBAjQ= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:04:51 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vinyl In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_169572_21746098.1230775491060" References: <20081231180026.D859B3BF11@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 02:04:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_169572_21746098.1230775491060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The "resurgence of vinyl" is a really relative thing. Vinyl is a tiny part of the music industry, so if it racks up a 30% increase in one year, the actual numbers are still tiny tiny. This article got a lot of coverage this year: http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/04/riaa-admits-vin.html TH On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Rev Fever wrote: > I also read a story about a year ago about the resurgence of vinyl. > ------=_Part_169572_21746098.1230775491060 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The "resurgence of vinyl" is a really relative thing.  Vinyl is a tiny part of the music industry, so if it racks up a 30% increase in one year, the actual numbers are still tiny tiny.  This article got a lot of coverage this year:



TH

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Rev Fever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:
I also read a story about a year ago about the resurgence of vinyl. 
------=_Part_169572_21746098.1230775491060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 02:31:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C6C73BE8E; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 02:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20081231180026.D859B3BF11@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--933290520 Message-Id: <005962F6-6594-4EEA-BA24-F72F5D06CAE3@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: Vinyl Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:29:39 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 02:31:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--933290520 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Dec 31, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > The "resurgence of vinyl" is a really relative thing. Vinyl is a > tiny part of the music industry, so if it racks up a 30% increase > in one year, the actual numbers are still tiny tiny. Er...I wasn't trying to be so technical, specific, serious, etc about it. I was just casually tossing out a phrase, is all. :-) But, I still dig that at least some of the kids seem to want vinyl now, more than CDs, etc. Personally, that gave me a nice, warm ( analogue) feeling inside. > This article got a lot of coverage this year: > http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/04/riaa-admits-vin.html "With this report, the vinyl resurgence has been officially acknowledged by the RIAA." Maybe eventually those "tiny tiny" numbers may became less "tiny tiny" as time goes on...? Hope springs eternal, and that'd be kool... (at least in my Universe..) All the best, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ > TH > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Rev Fever > wrote: > I also read a story about a year ago about the resurgence of vinyl. --Apple-Mail-1--933290520 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Dec 31, 2008, at = 6:04 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote:

The = "resurgence of vinyl" is a really relative thing. =A0Vinyl is a tiny = part of the music industry, so if it racks up a 30% increase in one = year, the actual numbers are still tiny tiny. =

Er...I wasn't trying to be so = technical, specific, serious, etc about it. I was just casually tossing = out a phrase, is all. :-)=A0
But, I still dig that at least = some of the kids seem to want vinyl now, more than CDs, etc. = =A0Personally, that gave me a nice, warm ( analogue) feeling = inside.

This article got a = lot of coverage this year:

"With this report, the vinyl resurgence has been = officially acknowledged by the RIAA."

Maybe = eventually those "tiny tiny" numbers may became less "tiny tiny" as time = goes on...? =A0
Hope springs eternal, and that'd be kool... = (at least in my Universe..)

All the = best,
Rev Fever
On Wed, Dec = 31, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Rev Fever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:
I also read a story about a year ago = about the resurgence of = vinyl.=A0

= To: References: <495B5EF9.9010706@cruzio.com> <002a01c96b6e$dca141a0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Beer Budget CD Release Strategy as an Alternative to The Way It's Normally Done Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:09:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 03:09:40 +0000 (UTC) No Kris I don't. They say to contact them for "details". j ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: Re: Beer Budget CD Release Strategy as an Alternative to The Way It's Normally Done > > >> Kris, >> There are links out there, >> Get them made, >> http://www.independentpressing.com/ > > Cool. Do you know what they charge or 250 albums and 1000 sleaves (min > order)? > > Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 03:14:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AFB43BE8A; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 03:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2A59D9FB0A4348E2982EBBECD45C5F87@eluk1> From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <20081231180026.D859B3BF11@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Vinyl Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 03:14:38 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C96BBF.148DC250" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 03:14:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C96BBF.148DC250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did a cartoon for Medialine (RIP) in 2002 about the resurgence of = vinyl... It's possible the article that went with it is on the Wayback = Machine... http://tinyurl.com/7hp357 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Travis Hartnett=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Vinyl The "resurgence of vinyl" is a really relative thing. Vinyl is a tiny = part of the music industry, so if it racks up a 30% increase in one = year, the actual numbers are still tiny tiny. This article got a lot of = coverage this year: http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/04/riaa-admits-vin.html TH On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Rev Fever = wrote: I also read a story about a year ago about the resurgence of vinyl. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C96BBF.148DC250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I did a cartoon for Medialine (RIP) in 2002 about = the=20 resurgence of vinyl... It's possible the article that went with it is on = the=20 Wayback Machine...
http://tinyurl.com/7hp357
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Travis Hartnett
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, January 01, = 2009 2:04=20 AM
Subject: Re: Vinyl

The "resurgence of vinyl" is a really relative thing.=20  Vinyl is a tiny part of the music industry, so if it racks up a = 30%=20 increase in one year, the actual numbers are still tiny tiny. =  This=20 article got a lot of coverage this year:

http://= blog.wired.com/music/2008/04/riaa-admits-vin.html


TH

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Rev Fever = <revfever@ubergadget.com>=20 wrote:
I also read a story about a = year ago=20 about the resurgence of=20 vinyl. 
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C96BBF.148DC250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 03:26:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 561AF3BE88; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 03:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qUFgR1dz1ynLNfQ6GO6bEUKlVa6Q+quAOfXJZBXZQuA=; b=O4FUUQAyxcbaRRAN6aObFWNWAZylr3VoD1K002j4XXDmPiqjhpiLBQsdcCatMbjst6 HWPKsQnHZ//WpsmORvBrAWNiuO6HZueTY1AmadvFV9J1lZWGCTsL9OerOXT4d07g+lc9 /Ffd9I/TqImEDm7xqz1/nyr3JMAZTd+ghGSy4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=hAh+A2u46aAWwK6E/GboK1iGjyBs73eDihHUBF2+/A7jnrq1wQKDYKW5aWWn8NuRaC vBoMdTehJEqGn+WRZbQacRtAkMuQjavn27qE6ZBwEdN/LbtcQLA0y+zH5Cbf/Wb5wAl5 zZEebAMVB0C3lMNUL0WT10bdkH6UinkrFgNWM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:25:59 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Beer Budget CD Release Strategy as an Alternative to The Way It's Normally Done In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_169871_17462170.1230780359599" References: <495B5EF9.9010706@cruzio.com> <002a01c96b6e$dca141a0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: <4E-fpC.A.noH.JfDXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 03:26:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_169871_17462170.1230780359599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The place linked to previously appears to be in the UK, so I'd imagine it'd be a bit pricey for US, what with shipping the exchange rate? Here's an article that provides some resources for small-run vinyl pressing, including these rough guidelines for pressing costs: "CUTTING COSTS Depending on the record-pressing service you use and the number of options you choose, the final pressing cost should fall between $750 and $1,300 for 500 12-inch 130-gram (130g) records, and between $1,100 and $2,000 for 1,000 records. Generally, these prices would include the master lacquer, metal processing, record pressing, test pressings, labels, shrink-wrap, jackets, and possibly paper sleeves. The cost per record is much lower with greater quantities because the most expensive parts of the process, mastering and plating, are fixed costs that occur regardless of the number of records pressed. Ordering another pressing of the record is usually much cheaper, sometimes by as much as 50 percent. You could also spend a bit less by cutting down on the number of extra options." http://emusician.com/tutorials/emusic_pressing_matters/ At the end of the article are a bunch of vinyl-pressing businesses listed. TH On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > Kris, >> There are links out there, >> Get them made, >> http://www.independentpressing.com/ >> > > Cool. Do you know what they charge or 250 albums and 1000 sleaves (min > order)? > > Kris > ------=_Part_169871_17462170.1230780359599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The place linked to previously appears to be in the UK, so I'd imagine it'd be a bit pricey for US, what with shipping the exchange rate?

Here's an article that provides some resources for small-run vinyl pressing, including these rough guidelines for pressing costs:

"CUTTING COSTS

Depending on the record-pressing service you use and the number of options you choose, the final pressing cost should fall between $750 and $1,300 for 500 12-inch 130-gram (130g) records, and between $1,100 and $2,000 for 1,000 records. Generally, these prices would include the master lacquer, metal processing, record pressing, test pressings, labels, shrink-wrap, jackets, and possibly paper sleeves. The cost per record is much lower with greater quantities because the most expensive parts of the process, mastering and plating, are fixed costs that occur regardless of the number of records pressed. Ordering another pressing of the record is usually much cheaper, sometimes by as much as 50 percent. You could also spend a bit less by cutting down on the number of extra options."



At the end of the article are a bunch of vinyl-pressing businesses listed.

TH



On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:


Kris,
There are links out there,
Get them made,
http://www.independentpressing.com/

Cool. Do you know what they charge or 250 albums and 1000 sleaves (min order)?

Kris


------=_Part_169871_17462170.1230780359599-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 04:16:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5F753BE8B; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 04:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ExDR+jfura08NlHGUJU+oqEnZ/cHpbGfy0OvHwEoxN1aWE//mNrsfREMp80rSkfMm9q7jcbQfgp70ubbnVjYpoG/oh7sIliYFD4PEcpkSOJR5GQWajyeQynomzw1sqe+RFgdJPZihVxqYiJW8r9QrsquWt9nfH+QAx06FFxMewY=; X-YMail-OSG: wvDjxwAVM1kvq2ee.tytV__fZ2XVXXrk1cGI_Pf1Pj1ayKyvHwcnGuYrADV9bs3Boz2ShGNM2FGN.jSLS14tLOgbwhaasFRKELeku.lOSMW02bjShMt8hQCmFkJJl9Vk0sgi5kA7boVp0KcmdEe7CxqJuI3xv98zde0DZeGeF_UFjU3OQhcXadnB5Y9XlRf5ZXGa.XseSBT5bllIcpjKiwSC4F116W2LssgBfFz4rcDtj0k- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:16:48 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Marshall Reply-To: agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com Subject: Re: WHAT STOMP BOXES ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH? was distortion,f overdrive, fuzz, crunc To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-457747206-1230783408=:29387" Message-ID: <911411.29387.qm@web51509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 04:16:49 +0000 (UTC) --0-457747206-1230783408=:29387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well I am more a fan of=A0tube=A0amps for distortion, as opposed to pedals,= =A0owning the new and very compact and excellent Mesa Boogie Express 5:50 a= mp. Amazing distortions ranging from mild vintage overdrive to over the top= metal and it weighs less the 50 lbs! Okay, I realize this is NOT an amplifier post so I will stop here. If any o= f you are interested I can tell you much more about it.=A0=A0 I WILL confes= s to using the Electro Harmonix Big Muff for a really nasty fuzz when I nee= d one. I have the=A0 one finished in a sic Black Molten Nuclear Waste Indus= trial Russian=A0box, they make a more civilized looking one in clean chrome= made in New York. Love EH boxes in general, much more fun than Boss or Dig= itech. EH pedals seem to all have settings that go beyond where most civili= zed players woud go (all the others don't)=A0 in other words they go to 11= =A0=A0 LOL=A0=A0=20 just my 2 cents=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 well maybe more like 25 cents!! =A0 p.s sonic youth's Thurston Moore has a priceless quote about distortion and= amps=3D "all tube amps are wonderful in a least SOME aspect if you turn them all th= e way up" assuming you live where you can do this, he is so right!!! =A0 peace marc Marc Marshall =A0 =A0 If you have no=A0other better thing to do with=20 your time feel=A0free to=A0visit my website sans blog =A0 =A0=A0=A0 http://www.myspace.com/atripthroughthestars --- On Wed, 12/31/08, Loren Claypool wrote: From: Loren Claypool Subject: Re: WHAT STOMP BOXES ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH? was distortion,f overdr= ive, fuzz, crunc To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 8:28 PM I am enjoying stomp boxes in the real and virtual worlds these days. Before= I answer and the question as intended, I'm digging the models in my Pod X3 Pro, Pod X3 via Pod Farm, the new plug-ins in PT LE 8, a stack of VSTs via FXpansion VST->RTAS converter, and the SoundToys Native effects bundle. The SoundToys effects are stunning. To the question proper. I mix and match a wide variety of stomp boxes as th= e spirit moves me. The complete list in on the gear page at http://www.lorenclaypool.com. Right now I'm jacked up with the Korg mini-KP Kaoss Pad, Boss SP-303, vintage MXR 45 Phase Shifter, Boss DD-5 (in Aarset mode), Boss TR-2 Tremolo with aNaLoG.MaN Super Mod, and Boss DS-1 with aNaLoG.MaN Pro Midrange Mod. But that will all change tomorrow. I'm a huge fan of what aNaLoG.MaN does with Boss pedal mods. I'm also in love all over again with vintage MXR pedals - warm and luscious analog goodness. All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there =0A=0A=0A --0-457747206-1230783408=:29387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well I am more a fan of tube amps for distortion, as opposed to pedals, owning the new and very compact and excellent Mesa Boogie Express 5:50 amp. Amazing distortions ranging from mild vintage overdrive to over the top metal and it weighs less the 50 lbs!
Okay, I realize this is NOT an amplifier post so I will stop here. If any of you are interested I can tell you much more about it.   I WILL confess to using the Electro Harmonix Big Muff for a really nasty fuzz when I need one. I have the  one finished in a sic Black Molten Nuclear Waste Industrial Russian box, they make a more civilized looking one in clean chrome made in New York. Love EH boxes in general, much more fun than Boss or Digitech. EH pedals seem to all have settings that go beyond where most civilized players woud go (all the others don't)  in other words they go to 11   LOL  
just my 2 cents    
well maybe more like 25 cents!!
 
p.s sonic youth's Thurston Moore has a priceless quote about distortion and amps=
"all tube amps are wonderful in a least SOME aspect if you turn them all the way up"
assuming you live where you can do this, he is so right!!!
 
peace
marc
Marc Marshall
 
 
If you have no other better thing to do with
your time feel free to visit my website sans blog
 


--- On Wed, 12/31/08, Loren Claypool <looper@theclaypools.com> wrote:
From: Loren Claypool <looper@theclaypools.com>
Subject: Re: WHAT STOMP BOXES ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH? was distortion,f overdrive, fuzz, crunc
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 8:28 PM

I am enjoying stomp boxes in the real and virtual worlds these days. Before I
answer and the question as intended, I'm digging the models in my Pod X3
Pro, Pod X3 via Pod Farm, the new plug-ins in PT LE 8, a stack of VSTs via
FXpansion VST->RTAS converter, and the SoundToys Native effects bundle. The
SoundToys effects are stunning.

To the question proper. I mix and match a wide variety of stomp boxes as the
spirit moves me. The complete list in on the gear page at
http://www.lorenclaypool.com. Right now I'm jacked up with the Korg mini-KP
Kaoss Pad, Boss SP-303, vintage MXR 45 Phase Shifter, Boss DD-5 (in Aarset
mode), Boss TR-2 Tremolo with aNaLoG.MaN Super Mod, and Boss DS-1 with
aNaLoG.MaN Pro Midrange Mod. But that will all change tomorrow.

I'm a huge fan of what aNaLoG.MaN does with Boss pedal mods. I'm also
in love all over again with vintage MXR pedals - warm and luscious analog
goodness.

All the best,

Loren Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there

--0-457747206-1230783408=:29387-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 11:47:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C74C3BE84; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=YwVCaO1apbJqAAioeKZnzoStCBzVG54Q3tS36l8a72s=; b=mt+1vlsfN1O67fy9x75P0cJWBfxwkQn6IRowoHjx6rUJ6vS0pU8UqFjK81TWrDjxxS YaZ3ycSEhvhzkhxTivZodaQk2l3RakiGu8f72M+Hdfh+EjmNyJmsEz6k/tcJa89E+fVM WLIqZ0WLxDX3vt75LQj742dHfSt/n2EwBsEX4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=iu7hlMdr1bxTZ/XSX8gnGLK5+8hc4K4UOA/dz/ay1POoD5FbEE0dNGO2tCIm4fGEfe E3PlKN5g5dDXfSSZVF8oGN1KqWkiiP45vbgLb72iPo+/wgC7sIDvK+QxpouV6nbIqU05 dviIkbOferT4BFYREKmtuZ/4gUK+8kBXWky70= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0901010347q2649a097j55cb1cf8a5bf8b0e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:47:18 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT : radios in europe In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0812310622w1371718fn88e7a9c8c60d09a7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <01ce01c96b4f$01787630$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> <66f9cc1e0812310622w1371718fn88e7a9c8c60d09a7@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 815c984693996332 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:47:20 +0000 (UTC) What about the very wonderful Resonance FM in London... my favorite show program - The Hellabore show. Available in Resonances Pod archives... m On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > >> do you know any radio programs in Europe that broadcast experimental music, >> soundart, electroacoustic and contemporary? > > Google it! We did that with the latest Per Boysen & Costas Anderou > release and found many stations, both FM based and web streaming. I > don't have a data base backline of all that though, would cost too > much time to set up and everything is already on the web anyway. Most > local stations interact in English these days, yes even The French! > > Good luck with the new album. I enjoy that music! :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6550 > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 11:50:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 913A43BE88; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 06:51:32 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <495CAE44.6070509@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:50:00 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Check out Afterglow on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/afterglowonwmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on William Edge. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Kaleidoscope." For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jan Become a friend of Galactic Travels on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. ====================================================================== All times are EST / GMT-5 / ITZ-5. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 12:39:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C07D63BE89; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=gygqrgXMzIpCuR4mxBsG1fXBgxLSwACSFu12NVS0Tq38ejt6KHbT/NFa863ETl+46iW+TAcm1I7xvgntXGleF4/MIATX7YgEnKfiwjiVmL4O0xcjL10t976XB8wl01Bfid18/g39T0qIwX0gRjIjicR4EazwYklzQNZfhH3XzOc=; X-YMail-OSG: Sz5.ZykVM1l1fMHLbqE9YZbYKw6uzaJO3bIvXB0IZpZqqss83rkUeMDlVvBGkwrSBoLMhRCp8jpCMlp4EkFf5wYnH8FbgU9qLk66qQdXixDU5UqE5XctUB3ghXWeyWixKMypwBjPWoAUebA1T.miHeAQj19vil17jWzEyx7X0NCWTeqdr0PV3VzrTKmPW2BnpAKX8xwJVZHSsY8GwXdVTd_7eXPbbZ.uCMRdAwmU79KcvA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 04:39:30 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <408171.36298.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Rick happy new year as well! This email is very inspiring man,thank you seriously for putting so much effort to keep us all going,and everyone else who has been so helpful,i specially want to thank Per Boysen,Jeff Larson,Bill Walker and Andy Butler for their unconditional help,i have learned so much from this list and gotten to know great people through the festivals everyone open up that champagne and lets have a toast! loop on Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 12/31/08, Rick Walker wrote: > From: Rick Walker > Subject: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? > To: "RICK WALKER" , "Y2K8 LOOPFEST email saves" , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 1:33 PM > Happy New Years, EVERYBODY! > > I was meditating on what this next year will bring > artistically for our community. > > Here's what I thought: > > We haven't had a defining cultural year in this past > decade yet ( like '68 in the sixties, '75 in the > 70's , '82 in the 80's, etc.) > so this feels like the right year to make a very, very > strong cultural imprint on history. > > Because I"ve been involved in a lot of interviews in > recent months and also in correspondances with > loopers,loop promoters, journalists, radio DJs and others, > I have noticed that there has > been a huge proliferation of interest in live looping in > the past year alone. There has also been an > attendant surge in new software and features in hardware > and the creation of new techniques commensorately. > > From talking to journalists, I have also noticed that our > community is now very solidly on their radar whereas > five years ago, we were just a blip. > > In the past couple of years a lot of new high profile > artists have emerged from the > pop and jazz worlds and started incorporating live looping > in their musical sets. > > I say that we make a huge concerted effort this coming year > to release new records in this community > and help make live looping be one of the emergent trends of > this past decade, historically speaking. > > If you've been telling yourself that you really should > finish that project you've been working on forever--- > I exhort you to put it out this year, or even get up off of > the couch and push play on the plethora of high quality > recorders (both portable and > computer or analogue based that now exist) if you > weren't thinking about making a release this year. > > You can reference the excellent thread on how to release a > new project in the new digital era and > even on a budget (of money , or time ) > > Some famous visual artist once said that 'being > prolific is a form of generosity' > In that spirit, > > I'll book anyone who debuts a CD this year at the Y2K9 > International Live Looping Festival, hands down, no > questions asked! > > Here's to this wonderful community and all of it's > amazing members. > It's been a huge blessing in my own life to be here > with you all. > > Happy New Years and may 2009 define our decade in the > coming years. > > Rick Walker > > > > .................. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 14:42:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 031F73BE89; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 14:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=Ubq/wdBOgJbU8rzfTP1UyCOc4wMXD7oZtRQDrBw5hMk=; b=IOUbyX45ncQlm3DL0PUkkkynJyUiYKFBPsxwu17GVm2FsMUTMHEuEsdf4cY3/tYp7o pADWk/UhsO5XHGKq0H+EuOkvQtyehPCEJA74Ge1NxNclSywMmSDlfIzsrVZF5SToz9DR GfyUKI9MaJd/1NzfcDDm+Ocw8ViVXvFAphFm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=DgO+LpIdYj/9+FK0SS6YVli0pxer3Mg34nYjGEPGwyhmlzdzokY+IDODQcho+WQmlM gKdTSqS/kX4rtfUMsdxqW6vnQSfjVuA9v1mbcp0uBVP7Zj8WoctYDB7Gr6sEP+CS8Irc CeOfmWuvGWkMOa2jrUgaNzUlpgwWlrfHKbIi4= Message-ID: <101191640901010642j7a8c8237ra50904e2a15d4fc0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 09:42:24 -0500 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? In-Reply-To: <408171.36298.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_192187_16506805.1230820944134" References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <408171.36298.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c6e7fd43f8752f8d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 14:42:24 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_192187_16506805.1230820944134 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Happy New Year to all, and here's to a year of new musical peaks from everyone! Warren ------=_Part_192187_16506805.1230820944134 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Happy New Year to all, and here's to a year of new musical peaks from everyone!

Warren
------=_Part_192187_16506805.1230820944134-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 15:02:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A38D3BE89; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=ppHovSIjVP2C3zc4tS9PsxM/5xrys+xiz+dwoQn3Uco=; b=trLxIN5U6smK1pre/5uQtNiG4XUkrEc8WNLuj0gA7esT0SSiQDaqjwHUnah4eaG0q4 CrsfkZUfbCnrHnQftNeWzha6HFRIYKAuRQtcF6Q3GabpWe98BSuKHKg9PkLpAZUM9Qiu EnDY3BWKshEv3l/+K6BNjIUzb/Kptkrf9ygQk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EPcLqT7iUBoU+VZD6PY1Y9kPbXyWts0leWzW+YxoO6mGhEHX8+WL2C5ieDoemicHdH 1917jhB369VRJuM98Q3hX5RVJZ8X1ri604aYG5u85BjDl+4kq1CuG6if7SJJsQwi7X/n gyINrYeP32juOdDM4OoCdVx9M2mrrePDcbhH4= Message-ID: <477dfd520901010702o7f138f10y34968356085a9cd0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:02:42 +0100 From: "Lasse juul Kolding" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Syncopath as Ableton Live Master (Was: New Software Looper) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_86912_20734407.1230822162343" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:02:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_86912_20734407.1230822162343 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Neil, That's just about the only thing not shown in the built-in tutorial. There are plans to make a couple of online ones with step-by-step and pictures for the different methods of setting it up. For now, there's only the video showing it in use :) I can describe it briefly here though before I finish the rest of the documentation: First of all, you need to either have a couple of spare MIDI ports or setting up some virtual ones: In Windows, I recommend MIDI Yoke from www.midiox.com In Max OSX you can add a couple of IAC Driver ports from "Audio MIDI Setup" Then you will need the standalone program SyncVSTMaster found on the website. >From here you just have to set up the MIDI routing: -Create a MIDI Track in Live. -Set its MIDI Input to come from Syncopath Performer (Audio Track). -Its MIDI Output should go out one of your new MIDI ports. In SyncVSTMaster: -Set the Input Port (top left corner) to receive from the MIDI Port you are sending to in Live. -Set the Output Port to send out a second free port (This will be sending MIDI clock messages). -Set the number of bars you want looped in Live. Back in Ableton Live: -Enable Sync on the Input of the port selected as MIDI output in SyncVSTMaster. -Click on EXT in top left corner of Live. Syncopath Performer: -Create your first loop while in Internal Sync Mode. -On it goes... Cheers, Lasse On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Neil Goldstein wrote: > Any instructions for using as master sync with Live? ------=_Part_86912_20734407.1230822162343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Neil,

That's just about the only thing not shown in the built-in tutorial.
There are plans to make a couple of online ones with step-by-step and pictures for the different methods of setting it up.
For now, there's only the video showing it in use :)

I can describe it briefly here though before I finish the rest of the documentation:

First of all, you need to either have a couple of spare MIDI ports or setting up some virtual ones:

In Windows, I recommend MIDI Yoke from www.midiox.com
In Max OSX you can add a couple of IAC Driver ports from "Audio MIDI Setup"

Then you will need the standalone program SyncVSTMaster found on the website.

From here you just have to set up the MIDI routing:
-Create a MIDI Track in Live.
-Set its MIDI Input to come from Syncopath Performer (Audio Track).
-Its MIDI Output should go out one of your new MIDI ports.

In SyncVSTMaster:
-Set the Input Port (top left corner) to receive from the MIDI Port you are sending to in Live.
-Set the Output Port to send out a second free port (This will be sending MIDI clock messages).
-Set the number of bars you want looped in Live.

Back in Ableton Live:
-Enable Sync on the Input of the port selected as MIDI output in SyncVSTMaster.
-Click on EXT in top left corner of Live.

Syncopath Performer:
-Create your first loop while in Internal Sync Mode.
-On it goes...


Cheers,
Lasse



On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Neil Goldstein <swamilove@gmail.com> wrote:
Any instructions for using as master sync with Live? 

------=_Part_86912_20734407.1230822162343-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 15:45:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1C643BE7B; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Reyn_vs._Bj=F6rk?= Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:45:39 +0100 Message-ID: <00bf01c96c27$ff5673f0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AclsJ/7M0QFCq3GjSDuapEOciCR6LA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.45; VDF: 7.1.1.57) Resent-Message-ID: <6T18pC.A.LnD.mUOXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:45:42 +0000 (UTC) check out Reyn Ouwehand's livelooping version of a Bj=F6rk tune http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWKcw8XtYPK4&fmt=3D18 -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 16:35:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 846EC3BE7E; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <01ce01c96b4f$01787630$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> References: <01ce01c96b4f$01787630$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <8cc8c3fcb2c3a57229bcad82e04058d5@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Erdem Helvacioglu From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT : radios in europe Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 08:34:53 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi there Erdem, Happy new year to you too! It's been along time since I gave any of these a thought. FRK 105.8 FM Kassel, Germany RCV 99 FM Lille, France 90.1 FM Sens, France RCV 100.4 FM Barcelona Spain RF 91.5 FM Barcelona Spain KAPSAI FM 100.2 Marijampole, Lithuania These are the stations in Europe that played my music between 2001-02 Best regards, tEd =AE KiLLiAn Creativity represents a miraculous coming together of the uninhibited=20 energy of the child with its apparent opposite and enemy, the sense of=20= order imposed on the disciplined adult intelligence. =96 Norman = Podhoretz http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian http://www.reverbnation.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes On Dec 31, 2008, at 5:52 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hey, > =A0 > do you know any radio programs in Europe that broadcast experimental=20= > music, soundart, electroacoustic and contemporary? > =A0 > thanks and best regards. happy new year to you all! > =A0 > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 16:55:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AF7C3BE81; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=uGLETJcGzu5A8QDeOlsteBRScCWWklWfM6oleDd/G9U=; b=PZbXEPGuIUJckrjW6p4/1YMMQDzSohfubU7KIWL9edSNw1JP1cA/VBjz9zF6pex5yW VFojXtfsW2sG0HS+AsROJ25NnL/ggTtkBnutK01qvLoHaeg8ROopQ9RcVk+RvSydT0li pecZOlghnnG2hw2WiYKzVyxGjgI2P73Si2GuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Wx1+bQt9mx07Yxx6pvqXhmGb8+7HuWXc3H/0ZQJIuKCSfLmO5wnGwv8bVsU1aG/m8W 3EyRaOfTCKFnMI8hC9Cm9D/CvjJCEyedZvJF0KOxXvSknIvybc4nBPrhe+C5w/zsIJge p+JqdSVa5tw6eeZPw80ByIqe+XcSzV1IklZZ0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <8cc8c3fcb2c3a57229bcad82e04058d5@charter.net> References: <01ce01c96b4f$01787630$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> <8cc8c3fcb2c3a57229bcad82e04058d5@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <03DF5B1F-3880-4ADC-8F06-C3DA0AD27CC4@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: OT : radios in europe Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 08:55:49 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:55:55 +0000 (UTC) >> do you know any radio programs in Europe that broadcast >> experimental music, soundart, electroacoustic and contemporary? I'm not sure if it is only webcast, but the Sounds & Emotions show is receptive to submissions: < http://www.fmbrussel.be/programmas/sounds_and_emotions.aspx > : goto the red speaker "luister" or or contact info: Nico Bogaerts Sounds and Emotions 60 Rue De L'Obus 1070 Brussels Belgium Europe regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j Flickr set http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 18:47:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE1433BE86; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 18:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: Subject: RE: feedback buster for nylon string Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:47:28 -0800 Message-ID: <4132C5D2525941EBB4E43D330EABBAD0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aclrp5D4gCh9SCh5STior0xgvX3ckQAk+t5w In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 18:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Great Trick Krispen, I'll have to try that sometime on my flamenco guitar.. Unfortunately for you Luis, The mics goose neck might get in the way of that technique as would a feedback buster. You might inquire at this site, they are based in San Francisco and are all about classical guitars. http://www.gspguitar.com/jsp2/customerService.jsp?pg=main , I've looked for a long time for a classical hole sized feedback buster, and I'm not sure any one makes one. I assume your controls are on the outside. My feeling about internal mics, is the less used the better :) The thing is, you are using a tiny inexpensive microphone capsule that is getting much less current (9 volts) than a typical studio condenser mic (18-48 volts typically), it is also placed inside the sound hole facing the back of the guitar which in itself is going to give a boxy "old time radio broadcast" sound character, and be more feedback prone. To design a microphone of this type, they have to design certain frequency response out of the mic to make it less feedback prone, as well, making the sound more low fi, and further away from the optimal mic sound, and placement in a controlled studio environment. I ran in to this problem with the Duncan Mag mic Pickup that I use in my Hawaiian lap guitar. I can only use a little mic to add a bit of body, otherwise the guitar will start to feedback, and will be come overly noisy to handle. Now if I was Lawrence Juber, and had the $700 dollar custom mic cabsule installed in my MagMic like he does, perhaps I'd use it more. The other issue is monitoring, if you are using conventional monitors I would definitely place them on stands, as any time I use my flamenco or steel string with monitors placed on the ground in a conventional way, I have problems with bass standing waves, and coupling feedback. I have been recently demoing the new Fishman tower linear speaker design that is lighter weight and almost a third the price of the Bose system. Yesterday I was playing a Guild cutaway nylon string with a simple fishman matrix pickup. This is a solid wood guitar made in China, and I sat right in front of the speakers as I played and we turned it up enough to fill the store, but we were up perhaps half way. NO feedback issues at all. Now I couldn't guarantee that for you if you were using an internal mic, and I'm pretty certain the fishman lacks any of the Bose search and destroy feedback technology, But the linear array design is remarkable for not producing as much midrange and low end howling. I will do some tests with a Martin that has a prefix premium system and let you know how it fairs. Otherwise a little goes along way with internal mics. Just a bit will give the guitar more body and potential for beat box tones on different surfaces, without increasing handling noise too much. Happy New Year one and all Bill -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:info@krispenhartung.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:38 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: feedback buster for nylon string The best method I have ever used, is to buy a black balloon, and blow it up inside the sound hole (not too tight, just enough to seal off the sound hole). Tie it off and turn it around so that you don't see the end. It is amazing, and costs about 3 cents. :) I learned it from an old jazzer years ago. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Loopers, > Is there a feedback reducer for nylon strings like the feedback buster > that covers the soundhole for steel string guitars? my recently acquired > flamenco guitar has the fishman Prefix Premium Blend with the internal mic > and is very sensitive to feedback,so far i havent found anything that fits > the soundhole of a nylon string.However the feedback buster solved all > problems on my steel string,great and simple gadget! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 19:23:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DD903BE86; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <24FAC87F-D814-4491-B10E-8B2BE1DBE967@kenaxis.com> From: Stefan Smulovitz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--872479163 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: X-Y vector pad for MIDI foot con Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:23:11 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <9r-GL.A.W5B.mgRXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:23:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--872479163 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You could always look at using a Wii Fit with the latest version of Osculator - http://www.osculator.net/wiki/ to help you connect it to your software. Problem is you have to stand on it as it works by using 4 pressure sensors - one on each supporting foot. You couldn't really draw a curve with your toe. Probably not what you were thinking of at all but an off the wall alternative controller. (I guess for that matter you could tape a wii-mote to your foot and rotate and tilt your foot as well.) Stefan ---------------------------------------------------- www.kenaxis.com --Apple-Mail-1--872479163 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You could always look at using = a Wii Fit with the latest version of Osculator - http://www.osculator.net/wiki/= to help you connect it to your software. Problem is you have to stand = on it as it works by using 4 pressure sensors - one on each supporting = foot. You couldn't really draw a curve with your toe. Probably not what = you were thinking of at all but an off the wall alternative controller. = (I guess for that matter you could tape a wii-mote to your foot and = rotate and tilt your foot as = well.)

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= --Apple-Mail-1--872479163-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 19:37:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B73643BE86; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1M5EoIvA16AnT3YMpnrA3Ti2rXhrthB5TrW8CL/3mOQ=; b=rZpNA5wBNHoK2h/bX6FiRTcpDaQ2UfQv5VBdgW2k8zfHR1+kK/J31CL1QOHATy2J+w l1oCU4HErwK0dgql5nNDJBP5iplCU6KALMAUJdtfmEVQjNxt/2/NKS+faFLFK/w5mPQk wgydoyv3CSONOBPxXc+IuTT6YpPK/EGRwhxr8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=qtRAJYk9i30cZxsHJYOWLSnHGYCYFhfw2eLQWl/Ynf+25I+EzXAOD6vE363DMnGu3A 20q0ZK3x8RNzTvwTVWUdloNkgn12DZ6ZAVqNtwuZhHw/Yi6B3UYoPuTAVIsuT+PRThwU JaHE1deqoNT97gyGdGX4mQOkPOcjjAAKCggzY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901011137h6df49cd2r39ebb8e78fbf9923@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:37:56 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: X-Y vector pad for MIDI foot con In-Reply-To: <24FAC87F-D814-4491-B10E-8B2BE1DBE967@kenaxis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <24FAC87F-D814-4491-B10E-8B2BE1DBE967@kenaxis.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Stefan, You're right, Wii is not optimal. I need one X axis and one Y axis; two parameters. The pad is going to be used in two ways: 1) Dotting a mark somewhere to set new values for both parameters. I'm hoping to find a way to add slew/inertia so both MIDI CCs values will creep slowly towards there new set values 2) Manually "draw" dynamic changes of both parameter's values. An easy solution would be to pick up an ordinary joystick and put it in a box with no lid that lets the foot move around the stick inside the framework of the box. But this will only support nr 2 of above. I guess Osculator can be used to handle it on the software side. I know some software add-ons can make the touch pad of a mac laptop work like that and maybe that can be extended to work with a bigger touch pad via USB? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6550 On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Stefan Smulovitz wrote: > You could always look at using a Wii Fit with the latest version of > Osculator - http://www.osculator.net/wiki/ to help you connect it to your > software. Problem is you have to stand on it as it works by using 4 pressure > sensors - one on each supporting foot. You couldn't really draw a curve with > your toe. Probably not what you were thinking of at all but an off the wall > alternative controller. (I guess for that matter you could tape a wii-mote > to your foot and rotate and tilt your foot as well.) > Stefan > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > www.kenaxis.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 20:35:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30BC43BE79; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:35:49 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0812300228k2bff7495oed134e1a03ba04c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090101203549.63390@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4AE8FB7E-C97E-485D-B084-156244A510D8@theclaypools.com> <20081230101259.206590@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0812300228k2bff7495oed134e1a03ba04c7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What does it mean to you, to "release a record"? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18q8xRtCGsqh/N5OO38AuDXbiglmmSY7AVPskbQXO 0D/k8jn5hHhq1OqtRqWczk8SCIYNI1ZBHqsw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: QUA4CK1sfW47VZNBjGRo0NNudmllcoWb X-FuHaFi: 0.74 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:35:52 +0000 (UTC) > Well, how about adding the category "D: Indie artists." I was focusing on the aspect of making a living. The indie artists I personally know usually don't make enough money based on record sales/broadcasting to pay i.e. their rent. Rather it seems to me they have a mix of incomes along with playing gigs, contract work, teaching enrollment, recording sessions, other projects etc. I understand people want to be in charge of their own material/rights and are careful not to get ripped off. With record label contracts, people I know also seem to prefer having a European contract rather than an American. I just wonder how many indie artists out there can really i.e. pay rent with CD sales/royalties etc? Buzap -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 21:22:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D44C3BE7B; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:22:37 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090101212237.63380@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Happy New Year... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19YJuNfYExY6tT0D7vba1ExSl93AW2H0YVTAudlHy kOJe8QlCVeAX3j+I862POxkJv8hONg5gml9g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: L05oIalyZDIrF8cogWc2DLR5emhmYwGm X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Hello Loopers I'd like to wish all of you a Happy New Year. In 2008, Looper's Delight has been both a great inspiration and valuable resource for me. It's good to have a place to go for looping questions. But it is also great to have people here for any music-related aspect who open-mindedly and whole-heartedly embrace the full creative process. I've enjoyed meeting some of you personally, even from abroad (like i.e. Rick, Zoe) and I'm looking forward to maybe meeting more of you in 2009. So, all the best - health, happiness, success in your lives and music - for 2009! :) Buzap -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 21:28:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59B6D3BE79; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8VTa10++HyUfpoKYzKztO1fhaIOiea5b/Xmbyl5dKXE=; b=O8ewsWSwgcfLCVNeumCpIoVz68wO9nvkz2BOZU9Cgzqdc+aU7BOTfSF9ilxoSzkltc XAZ1AkcZa3k11wgZxD/ixV51DGOSrLOdw8YDC2g23IqQlNIZtt5I7sUZjzpRuLw/DMRu gO7Y4OCyQriquXeDS/LY5h4+7nEY31RXu390w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=RIngof0SG9R1pDLC1ryyyDESZr5hBh+vAsoPcBYFC1+l64Ivl1gxDxqP+lEXEvFdsS 1BN1FiICdchVFNQAKvKolH1ZK7mC2h9nDch8XOvtL22XQVm0XrDEK/DqqbOAbWZA1I5Q s1aPyjB2pshrAp6YQDrnHSvKD02N5+ChOaDEQ= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901011328o6e956545m41674764073d6cdc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:28:43 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What does it mean to you, to "release a record"? In-Reply-To: <20090101203549.63390@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4AE8FB7E-C97E-485D-B084-156244A510D8@theclaypools.com> <20081230101259.206590@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0812300228k2bff7495oed134e1a03ba04c7@mail.gmail.com> <20090101203549.63390@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:28:44 +0000 (UTC) >> Well, how about adding the category "D: Indie artists." > On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > I was focusing on the aspect of making a living. The indie artists I personally know usually don't make enough money based on record sales/broadcasting to pay i.e. their rent. Rather it seems to me they have a mix of incomes along with playing gigs, contract work, teaching enrollment, recording sessions, other projects etc. > I understand people want to be in charge of their own material/rights and are careful not to get ripped off. > With record label contracts, people I know also seem to prefer having a European contract rather than an American. I just wonder how many indie artists out there can really i.e. pay rent with CD sales/royalties etc? It is not the recording deal that causes money to rain over some artists. It's the record label that seeks them out and signs them up to refine their "money-making capacity"! ;-) "Indie" artist is short for "independent" artist, which means that the artist is not licensing away his/her rights to a partner record label. If you look around a bit further you may notice that many artists stay indie because they make more money that way. Many list members sort under this category, just go back and read the post history for the last ten days! Don't make the mistake to think that "indie"means "not very talented and too lazy for making money on your own" ;-) There will always be people who do not make music with the goal of creating the best sounding or most unique brew and since these people never get signed by record labels, while still making noise in as indie artists, it can falsely seem to be the case that record label deal signed artists make more money. I think the truth rather is that record label signed artists would make money as indies too. Myself I made more money when in a record deal with a major record label, but an important point is that the first money you earn in a major label collaboration is not generated by CD sales. The up-front money on a recoding deal comes from advances payed by other labels that want to buy local territorial release rights from the main record label. Similar logistics are also active in the publishing business and can generate even more money when splitting the publishing rights with local co-pub partners. One can also sign up with a really big company that does everything, called "putting all your eggs into one basket", but I've never tried that. Anyway, my point here is that such income is temporary - based on expectations, like "buying options". So if no commercial hits are scored within a year or two the investors will lose their money and you, the artist, will not get any more money. You will be left on your own devices after many years with a music outlet that was created to fit you, your label and the market targeted by your label. This leads into the conclusion that it might be as good, even better, to start out indie and stay indie all the way. I left my record label deal and the commercial side of music for artistic reasons and today I am still in the process of developing a music that I can accept making money from. If making money turns out impossible within my musical style I will at least still make good music according to my own taste. For me the music comes in the first place, which obviously can't be the rule within a record label deal (due to the nature of business). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6550 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 21:32:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B65173BE78; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8zHkvXyPvukR/SON+S77GywLV6URWUvLCHB6X+7tEIQ=; b=BUnajjgXV3TUg4RwQnLPoni8ruLnlbaAt6cpD6+sJIR2csvULFS5lq3zrtf4IGU9Pj YhsMc0xb/krJpZu1IJxFTH5gnfqro5yrMOiHFsEuFtQyHTBM2ABddhrr9BMd8Wh/m84q 7IoFFZCT/hZfe5fz1yW0ths+tD9dvBLncYjbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=vJ/UxOINtW/ziDc3788CYToMUrsf0cliEM5uuFJCOQKZDqrXiBS6sYvwVOua2oP4yc 9+P9r5Mxzfy7Qs2zBfwcMFJ4qAQxn7zBwGARngP2Nk6uS8rWs7BAGn0CPT2J80RrV1iA nZ5ZpLYEby0yvkBnFZChVSM9FvLxtICknCrmU= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901011332s3b5a2369w16e48d845781846d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:32:53 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Happy New Year... In-Reply-To: <20090101212237.63380@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20090101212237.63380@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:32:54 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > I've enjoyed meeting some of you personally, even from abroad (like i.e. Rick, Zoe) They are Americans, so where on the globe are you? I'm in Sweden BTW and it's horribly cold here today! Per Hppy 2k9 to y'all <<==== ! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 22:08:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D14F3BE78; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=yyOOrFLonz56ufZFXH3jN/ldlFw4NlRIyTVCeDgx3kA=; b=VzGDNx0dGJu/MJ8DtTiS1pOgEFTxkafM/q6EJFlotdFAifOhNATjx/CA595JBc/QxI vzhZCVwsALb229tbTn/s6r4N50drPOLvu81C/RFfaWIoVu+p3aFmEGjUzg/8ysNZStQl gx50kLK9RETHui3JbkmmmBU+Wq1lNkoO8bES4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bdW/z+9cN9wH7wdFZ/rpJwh+ALbAXJ7+EiuVmqrp15Kyr7f91SzuqqutgTrE2ZBRxx VqTrB7sd0WFM2xm41izORrosI17P7nTo0DXA9BhaABYCoMwuK54LfaQr+JouJRNyIkYi xB+j9T1P1MpuqLUzmmjiLaIHN7lXu7hVHf0fM= Message-ID: <477dfd520901011408m613c3cc5o78a98b9992542f4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:08:46 +0100 From: "Lasse juul Kolding" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Syncopath Specifications/Comparison (Was: New Software Looper) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_88832_29894984.1230847726657" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:08:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_88832_29894984.1230847726657 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline *Syncopath Performer * is an overdubbing looper with 3 parallel tracks, per track undo and stable synchronization both as master and slave. As master, the BPM/Sync is derived from the length of your first loop and 2 settings: time signature and number of bars. The next tracks made are automatically in perfect synchronization with this. If you tweak the master BPM and/or the relative speed of each tracks, everything stays together. Using the standalone utility SyncVSTMaster you can get a host like Ableton Live to follow along as well, using MIDI clock output from SyncVSTMaster. There's a video in the Media section on juvul.com showing this in action. A short instruction on how to set it up was posted earlier today. *Requirements:* You need a free version of Pluggoto run it. Pluggo Runtime or Pluggo Junior will work. Java and Quicktime are also needed. *Recommendations:* Go through the built-in tutorial found on the logo screen of the looper! * Specifications according to Per's Comparison Chart:* Overdub: Yes Feedback: No (quite easy to set up in Host) Undo: Yes. One level per track. Multiply: No, although the 3 tracks can have different lengths. Quantize: Yes Reverse loop: Yes MIDI: Yes Presets: Yes by the host appl Sync: MIDI Clock, internally by first recorded set as master track. As slave, the host has per sample control of recording and playback. Cut n Paste slices: No Pitch transposing: Each track can play half speed, normal speed, double speed and quadruple speed both forward and in reverse. Time stretching: Yes, but pitch changes with the tempo. Tap tempo: Yes by the host appl Max numbers of loops, linear: Many! Depending on computer spec's. Multiple loops in parallel: Yes. Synchronous or poly-rhythmic loops is possible. Audio channels, Tracks: 3 tracks. Stereo or mono, mono uses less RAM. Stereo recording: Yes Built-in storage option: No Can run on battery: Yes, if laptop battery. Cheers, Lasse On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Rainer Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Lasse, > > would it be possible that you give a quick rundown of the software's > features (and requirements) to us? > > As for features, a starting point would be to provide the information > for Per's comparison chart: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php - > and be sure to send that info to Per as well for him to include it in > his reference. > > The way I understand it: > * it's a multi-track looper (meaning it has multiple loops running > in parallel, which can be muted/unmuted/recorded to independently) > * everything is in sync to a master clock > * first loop capability (the first loop track sets the speed - how > does this work? Does it send MIDI clock to Live which is then synced > to it and provides the tempo back to the looper?) > * there are no adjustable feedback/secondary feedback settings > * overdub is possible > * you need a (free?) runtime version of a software called "Pluggo" > * adjusting running loops to tempo changes happens by varispeeding > (i.e. the playback speed changes just with a tape) > * everything is MIDI controllable > > What else is there to know? > > Looks like an interesting piece of software for many of us! > > Thanks, > > Rainer > > ------=_Part_88832_29894984.1230847726657 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Syncopath Performer
is an overdubbing looper with 3 parallel tracks, per track undo and stable synchronization both as master and slave.

As master, the BPM/Sync is derived from the length of your first loop and 2 settings: time signature and number of bars.
The next tracks made are automatically in perfect synchronization with this.
If you tweak the master BPM and/or the relative speed of each tracks, everything stays together.

Using the standalone utility SyncVSTMaster you can get a host like Ableton Live to follow along as well, using MIDI clock output from SyncVSTMaster.
There's a video in the Media section on juvul.com showing this in action.
A short instruction on how to set it up was posted earlier today.

Requirements:
You need a free version of Pluggo to run it.
Pluggo Runtime or Pluggo Junior will work.
Java and Quicktime are also needed.

Recommendations:
Go through the built-in tutorial found on the logo screen of the looper!


Specifications according to Per's Comparison Chart:

Overdub:
Yes

Feedback:
No (quite easy to set up in Host)

Undo:
Yes. One level per track.

Multiply:
No, although the 3 tracks can have different lengths.

Quantize:
Yes

Reverse loop:
Yes

MIDI:
Yes

Presets:
Yes by the host appl

Sync:
MIDI Clock, internally by first recorded set as master track. As slave, the host has per sample control of recording and playback.

Cut n Paste slices:
No

Pitch transposing:
Each track can play half speed, normal speed, double speed and quadruple speed both forward and in reverse.

Time stretching:
Yes, but pitch changes with the tempo.

Tap tempo:
Yes by the host appl

Max numbers of loops, linear:
Many! Depending on computer spec's.

Multiple loops in parallel:
Yes. Synchronous or poly-rhythmic loops is possible.

Audio channels, Tracks:
3 tracks. Stereo or mono, mono uses less RAM.

Stereo recording:
Yes

Built-in storage option:
No

Can run on battery:
Yes, if laptop battery.




Cheers,
Lasse


On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Lasse,

would it be possible that you give a quick rundown of the software's
features (and requirements) to us?

As for features, a starting point would be to provide the information
for Per's comparison chart: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php -
and be sure to send that info to Per as well for him to include it in
his reference.

The way I understand it:
  * it's a multi-track looper (meaning it has multiple loops running
in parallel, which can be muted/unmuted/recorded to independently)
  * everything is in sync to a master clock
  * first loop capability (the first loop track sets the speed - how
does this work? Does it send MIDI clock to Live which is then synced
to it and provides the tempo back to the looper?)
  * there are no adjustable feedback/secondary feedback settings
  * overdub is possible
  * you need a (free?) runtime version of a software called "Pluggo"
  * adjusting running loops to tempo changes happens by varispeeding
(i.e. the playback speed changes just with a tape)
  * everything is MIDI controllable

What else is there to know?

Looks like an interesting piece of software for many of us!

Thanks,

          Rainer


------=_Part_88832_29894984.1230847726657-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 22:42:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 156503BE7E; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XfRwaiCFozj5cnRyEYUalzuiKQ/Ue5rTQmUsxflH5uQ=; b=F9r6EUdquDNoHPwwzM2AeSOnGSzY23uM3PmFXw9+bamuTq0OT0roev/ClrAgFiJnTr pRXFD0BVk+dC/C7yJaxu9iZ8A050hbjRa4q5pZWSZHguFRETp2qZlJomgKKCBxb9V3i7 kdGTwc2pyupICqeVYHPu1e4h+D700z+v/U8iY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Bmlm2H8l6Za8dSOOg0u9jiUVv3pN3X4b55pV7VEj23or4NwCqDnPbWHbRUD98E8Zt3 ocDYRuIYou/25OxKaPJncEDp8eGHRLczdkaEOrUlDXvuiAMEUlI9KuZLhgupV9Hzxeiu 5HWlxrgblCYIcGuYs54dKHM6e31mWAAksNL/I= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901011442l3cd9bc1cl6e273cd235edd89b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:42:51 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What does it mean to you, to "release a record"? In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901011328o6e956545m41674764073d6cdc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4AE8FB7E-C97E-485D-B084-156244A510D8@theclaypools.com> <20081230101259.206590@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0812300228k2bff7495oed134e1a03ba04c7@mail.gmail.com> <20090101203549.63390@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0901011328o6e956545m41674764073d6cdc@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Buzzrap: >> With record label contracts, people I know also seem to prefer having a European contract rather > than an American. This is because American deals contend a lot more recoupable clauses. That means that if money is lost in marketing the label can cover its losses from incoming money before beginning to share money with the artist according to the royalty percentage stated in the deal. European deals still use some non recoupable clauses, meaning that the artist will start to get his share at an earlier stage of the game. > I just wonder how many indie artists out there can really i.e. pay rent with CD sales/royalties etc? Today Andrew Dubber posted a related article, "Why give music away for free?" http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/12/31/why-give-music-away-for-free/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6550 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 22:48:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31E033BE73; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=MKRyYRrABf8Q+7sYXHPx40YiS03Sn5ss3Q2LQXOB74Q=; b=q3GV51tVskoZ1uJYDPlDs94QvJ3R8bupa3xQHd8HVv33PBn3S6qyMmDk98OOJfKt8h 6TvceGdreny/G8SLZnkjwspljLA8x9OLpZYQ61uB0fK7RCm9UXXscEDyMTyTdXVURWb4 BUcSbK8eJ31LjFgGoLoDYMgEZQCjPNFoEwp6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=N0NRxSf5cb6U7+a1uNwpzuHawPCOwFbsqWPrYFPXpl3c/27wU94BMqvMcm9tvpUZO9 eOjozUU+RdkJzHcGSZUNtffRTr72Go2OF+nO+OlR1v05d+JYEPPOTxFnQPyiOIUpN5P3 9ZXSkYwJHTyQpPiXu347ZRkGuVFnbc/pxmtME= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901011448n5f3e723ag4581b25e1ed41a03@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:48:39 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What does it mean to you, to "release a record"? (correcting a typo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:48:40 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > This is because American deals contend a lot more recoupable clauses. I made a typo there. Should be: "American deals state more recoupable clauses". per (funny typo, reversing the meaning of the sentence ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jan 1 22:49:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03ABF3BE7B; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=yYO+TZV7rK0Inc06BKXB8nx9oAiqLw/4HrmS97LRTfs=; b=CkvkwYkEzQByp47ePFf3bCkKR3yWBaGvdywadKL+t5BXbdJ2WcA+yPZ4aMijlZkb4F npBMaON16FHEjW+PEqpj549Nvfikj6J7aWOupzTSjnx555rK3HW3FAnF2vF+klNGqlnw JNXq8X4ywXmKCPAqPuhxHhNo246R18Ep8wKqo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=AhRz8WEN6V1oHmVVwNkcVADwYKmgT5YKrHEAj172AyXGeCPFZ1TtftHZU0Q31h2vBl kZp14pSpa4onExh8u/PZ/fZaPL3+q8fTFryzBpJsfxgQgkNGsFT0QaFFAJ+uP4ZNtx3x UvhICum+Auk65lyVuV7IQhhG7ICan5zIVA/x8= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 14:49:38 -0800 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Reyn_vs._Bj=F6rk?= In-Reply-To: <00bf01c96c27$ff5673f0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <00bf01c96c27$ff5673f0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 340ee8bd0428e467 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:49:39 +0000 (UTC) amazing! On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > check out Reyn Ouwehand's livelooping version of a Bj=F6rk tune > http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWKcw8XtYPK4&fmt=3D18 > > -m > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 00:38:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D8F03BE7B; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 00:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=yn3h5qxTkcZ86dFymXWM0U54L3Dru1urbCcDpy74AG8=; b=OUl6LIEgbba/zh2D7s+K4dZugZZHJXZLRvDzdGOn9aB95GMRfbIS1jew7UdTkAOhd7 d9p9R8rm2vQxdIXH4ex5t4H1b4rOKSPW4Nl/MCe2yia2VyvDsLpiBCxBXV4lJyTfajxr wPpQdPSslx0kxz+e4YV1QM9O/sklN9+X3ieDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Q14KFSdzO4RnonsUmufz2MXASd7i2hZpW737wbuPlwZlfu9l9j0zrnARvkWe1kTKX7 EXLX/fCU6T1uUjAL810GHMUDT1uMCoheNaMObtGDPnPFFssAnhL8+BUlxM9/DVHvwbeh MLe1VuYqBRU6aoZLcM+wf1kuwyICfaX3Thp1U= Message-ID: <91d8478b0901011638wc9b8af7ubdd49a0bcc4e1d2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:38:08 -0500 From: "Jean-Paul De Roover" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: X-Y vector pad for MIDI foot control? In-Reply-To: <91d8478b0901011637o43e9bcd2s12b97d459b641e6b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_86352_5081507.1230856688062" References: <6A3BB399446946119BCA64FCE0976EB5@williamsteed> <91d8478b0901011637o43e9bcd2s12b97d459b641e6b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 00:38:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_86352_5081507.1230856688062 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I rip holes in my socks on a regular basis when I'm rehearsing, because I'll twiddle knobs on loopers, and get the socks caught in stomp boxes... I'm interested to learn more about other foot 'drawing' options... -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com ------=_Part_86352_5081507.1230856688062 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I rip holes in my socks on a regular basis when I'm rehearsing, because I'll twiddle knobs on loopers, and get the socks caught in stomp boxes...

I'm interested to learn more about other foot 'drawing' options...

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Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
------=_Part_86352_5081507.1230856688062-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 00:45:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45E433BE81; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 00:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WBhBsg7msYfj+O68t4Jz1ca+V877O4ntPvSFoH1VeP4=; b=cbI3DWivl45YfSD62TXWOMI2bHyP6hrsZybJHcZ0HPXTMoWvKS1QLks9WZADbKiEYb RiOqdfl0txz/2nV6l0c0oqXBucQa7EDTNLUQny9uZy9B3ZdaNa3m2rIzltIbSu7UW/3i Ba+t3Qq301k2Ui7f/L1Mw79Th8/xtSksJtXGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=jBkLzgZyzFcedPulhDaPmoYMPH2zgxXCepY+wc5j1QE3vushtJNtN33ynliBvCG8o7 CY0WpdCKJywiurEjL3NE+q5tLiE899SiFOgZT7EhiJ/Q87h1z/Ot1VZbKAlOtvd8XH/u Uoe2RF5r5J7eIj5EKey/drRP8pzflg09h0LnM= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901011645t4fffccf4i66ee5b970c99dcdc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 01:45:01 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: X-Y vector pad for MIDI foot control? In-Reply-To: <91d8478b0901011638wc9b8af7ubdd49a0bcc4e1d2b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6A3BB399446946119BCA64FCE0976EB5@williamsteed> <91d8478b0901011637o43e9bcd2s12b97d459b641e6b@mail.gmail.com> <91d8478b0901011638wc9b8af7ubdd49a0bcc4e1d2b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 00:45:03 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > I rip holes in my socks on a regular basis when I'm rehearsing, because I'll > twiddle knobs on loopers, and get the socks caught in stomp boxes... LOL! ;-) > I'm interested to learn more about other foot 'drawing' options... Me too! Keep it coming, loopist feet fiddlers out there! Per Boysen http://pix.looproom.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 01:34:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96F913BE79; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 01:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:35:51 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Beer Budget CD Release Strategy as an Alternative to The Way It's Normally Done In-reply-to: <29996263.1230680935389.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <495D6F77.8080408@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <29996263.1230680935389.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 01:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > I am currently considering making a business card with all the > information in the > CD and links to websites and bonus tracks and then having it > professionally > drilled so after one takes out the CD (with attendant artwork) there > will be > this CD underneath with all the goodies in it. > > In that way, I can use the tranparent nature of the CD case to show off > artwork that is only on the CD itself (no booklet, in other words). Just a word of warning that radio show hosts need printed information that is accessible even when the CD is in the player. A numbered track listing with label (if applicable), track times, artist name, and album title are bare minimum and must be part of the packaging. It's hard to know everything about ever track of every album of every band and artist. Different show hosts may have different needs but these are my bare minimum. The more information you provide and the less work and memorization you make a DJ so, the more airplay you'll get, all other things being equal, that is. That book or single page insert may cost you time and money, but don't underestimate it's promotional worth. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 01:56:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D8E63BE78; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 01:56:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:58:08 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: electro-music NYE streaming event In-reply-to: <25366336.1230750093899.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <495D74B0.1000700@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <477dfd520812301305v2ca5d3ev5b659aea6a78334b@mail.gmail.com> <1225D3CE-5AFB-4707-B3B7-AC44D25D0395@zoekeating.com> <5C88BDDC2F894FFD8651FC6D2F871030@eluk1> <68436C88765C4F8CA4D7EB83B866E801@eluk1> <66f9cc1e0812311023k2b5ffc93tf9daf2dccc6d09fe@mail.gmail.com> <25366336.1230750093899.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 01:56:42 +0000 (UTC) kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > I'm presenting an ambient work entitled "Serene Whirled" -- so no > loopage from me -- just synth stuff. I am recovering from a nasty > headcold which kept me out of the studio thus I had to scrap my plans > to do a live-looping set. Maybe next year :) Kevin; You recording was magnificent. I was at Howard's setting up my gear while it was playing. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 02:23:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A80233BE7C; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 02:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 785 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:23:54 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901011442l3cd9bc1cl6e273cd235edd89b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AE8FB7E-C97E-485D-B084-156244A510D8@theclaypools.com> <20081230101259.206590@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0812300228k2bff7495oed134e1a03ba04c7@mail.gmail.com> <20090101203549.63390@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0901011328o6e956545m41674764073d6cdc@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0901011442l3cd9bc1cl6e273cd235edd89b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--848024808 Message-Id: <4B01C155-1ABE-4EDB-8D64-68786BEBD747@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: What does it mean to you, to "release a record"? Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 18:10:45 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Server-Quench: 91e87528-d872-11dd-8156-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVffTAfARpo UEhAUlJQHgRoCxgG SBgZTBh1dxtEe3pu YEB9XHVZWVt6Oxh9 QEwlTi5FZWZiamgZ HkJYfwEaeQIfdhhA aFhiAHsKY3gGZy40 Wl9qYm50ZW0GcXQI TlpSclkbV3wGTHYD RxkeVTkoEFZNRjl7 KhEvLBYAGw4ANVh2 eUcmERgCPhsfAxZT V0gFGiJSIEMNDX1D X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1378/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 02:23:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--848024808 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed dunno, works for me and a lot of other artists i know. On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> I just wonder how many indie artists out there can really i.e. >> pay rent with CD sales/royalties etc? --Apple-Mail-4--848024808 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 dunno, works for me and a lot of other artists i = know.

On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Per Boysen = wrote:


=A0I just wonder how many indie = artists out there can really i.e. pay rent with CD sales/royalties = etc?


= --Apple-Mail-4--848024808-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 03:21:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF0333BE7B; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_65f71928-b022-4c26-9901-b1aadd545b5b_" X-Originating-IP: [67.169.176.84] From: samba - To: Subject: Vinyl Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:21:13 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090101023152.D7BBD3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090101023152.D7BBD3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2009 03:21:13.0688 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A8B9580:01C96C89] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:21:14 +0000 (UTC) --_65f71928-b022-4c26-9901-b1aadd545b5b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes it's really out of style. Part of how the fashion cycle. Little tin= y narrow sunglasses are supplanted by great big bug eyed ones as the cycle= spins.Bohemians=2Cyouths and others interested in proving to themselves=2C= their peers and whatever authority figures they're rebelling against tht = athey are not part of the herd=2Care creative fresh vital cool etc adopt = aesthetics that are as opposite as possible from whatever is in the mainstr= eam media. Thus the kids of longhaired 60s hippies who pretended to love= everyone=2Cshaved their heads in the 90s and pretended to hate everyone ( = the 90s were the 60s upside down). Usually the new aesthetic is greatly inf= ormed by what's available cheap in the thrift stores of college towns. So y= es vinyl is really out of style=2Cyes=2Cit's coming around the market is li= kely to grow. I buy vinyl at the thrift stores all the time .This week pic= king through Lawrence Welk the 1001 strings and the Anita Kerr singers=2CI = found the other day=2CPharoah Saunders Thembi =2C Abercrombe and Towner on = Ecm=2C Herbie Hancock Crossings which is amazing=2C perfect cond. for a buc= k each.But more and more I'm competing with college students for it.=20 --_65f71928-b022-4c26-9901-b1aadd545b5b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B =3B Yes it's really out of style. Part of how the fashion cycl= e. Little tiny narrow sunglasses are supplanted by great big bug eyed = =3B ones as the cycle spins.Bohemians=2Cyouths and others interested in pro= ving to themselves=2C their peers and whatever authority figures they're re= belling against =3B tht athey are not part of the herd=2Care creative f= resh =3B vital =3B cool etc adopt aesthetics that are as opposite a= s possible from whatever is in the mainstream media. Thus the kids of = =3B longhaired =3B 60s hippies =3B who pretended to love everyone= =2Cshaved their heads in the 90s and pretended to hate everyone ( the 90s w= ere the 60s upside down). Usually the new aesthetic is greatly informed by = what's available cheap in the thrift stores of college towns. So yes vinyl = is really out of style=2Cyes=2Cit's coming around the market is likely to g= row. =3B I buy vinyl at the thrift stores all the time .This week picki= ng through Lawrence Welk the 1001 strings and the Anita Kerr singers=2CI fo= und the other day=2CPharoah Saunders Thembi =2C Abercrombe and Towner on Ec= m=2C Herbie Hancock Crossings which is amazing=2C perfect cond. for a buck = each.But more and more I'm competing with college students for it.
= --_65f71928-b022-4c26-9901-b1aadd545b5b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 03:24:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 729FE3BE77; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 720 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:24:18 UTC X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C96C87.B0CFB9F2" Subject: Vinyl... sorry, but the material is suspect Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:10:39 -0500 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823980856@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Vinyl... sorry, but the material is suspect Thread-Index: Aclshml04Dy4rysDQFuzBviNlL2OTw== References: From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2009 03:10:40.0293 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1032D50:01C96C87] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:24:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C96C87.B0CFB9F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lest someone leap immediately to the conclusion that what I'm about to = say is too simple, I'll preface it by saying that any holistic analysis = of the environmental effects of our choices is inevitably very complex = and ultimately requires multiple qualifications and copious research. = That out of the way... just about the entire life cycle of polyvinyl = chloride is really injurious to the planet and its living creatures. =20 If you don't know what I mean, see the film Blue Vinyl. =20 I too love LPs as physical objects, but much of what we've been doing = needs to change.On balance, sans the copious research admittedy, I have = concluded that I cannot support the resurgence of vinyl LPs. =20 Hal Dean ________________________________ From: Michael Billow [mailto:mbillow@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 12/31/2008 5:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vinyl I woulda thought that too, since the same applies for reel to reel tape = technology. But even though their not made anymore, those tape recorders = remain beloved by many, and rather expensive on Ebay.=20 =20 Vinyl is so out of style that chances are pretty good one could = find old cutting lathes etc. somewhere sitting in a = warehouse,basement,fleamarket for cheap. I wonder how much of that gear = has gone to the dump. =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C96C87.B0CFB9F2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
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Lest someone = leap immediately to the conclusion that what I'm about to say is too = simple, I'll preface it by saying that any holistic analysis of the = environmental effects of our choices is inevitably very complex and = ultimately requires multiple qualifications and copious = research.  That out of the way... just about the entire life cycle of polyvinyl chloride is = really injurious to the planet and its living = creatures.
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If you don't  know what = I mean, see the film Blue Vinyl.
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I too love LPs as physical = objects, but much of what we've been doing needs to change.On balance, = sans the copious research admittedy, I have concluded that I cannot = support the resurgence of vinyl LPs.
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Hal Dean
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=0A= From: Michael Billow = [mailto:mbillow@gmail.com]
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I woulda thought that too, since the same applies for reel to reel = tape technology. But even though their not made anymore, those tape = recorders remain beloved by many, and rather expensive on Ebay.

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    Vinyl is so out of style that chances = are pretty good one could find old cutting lathes etc. somewhere sitting = in a warehouse,basement,fleamarket for cheap. I wonder how much of that = gear has gone to the = dump.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C96C87.B0CFB9F2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 03:27:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E7A83BE7C; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1pODmFyHpyiW94VDtD5ry66OUIjicELrkdNLCgDZ0ig=; b=QEOAzga2g0QJq/WHk4G0vZknYEclazKTQrwbvjKtLRAW73gxW0ers2SW4+rLncXnD1 DmDyeqd8sxoMz84jXrg7ALJRNSNvgUWjc1Mo6vSJu3Gz5ZkYro96Yknu00o1vZUL2VzF A+0nVkPBBQy5bmgWZ6fLn3AAJsuMQRwe8JDVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ObWKSk3JJ+mNpaJHuy9M2g64bJ9HtmlNsxefP1Jzgrklg5EBUVNUbajmuAT9vdwSJp wlSLVDaT/mnIg0dzmgM3oIArQLUC6TsgM6eUfkC7fP633ZJ4GOcyqw61AWUSzuwRG7kz qGRvfvaPtpACeuPswbsmDtsjUJq5fTf9N/a2A= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:27:02 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vinyl In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_175267_28452380.1230866822144" References: <20090101023152.D7BBD3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:27:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_175267_28452380.1230866822144 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The popularity of cheap, used, "vintage" (released 10+ years ago) vinyl is one thing, but if people aren't willing to pay new vinyl prices for current releases on vinyl, then this "trend" is not really helping most musicians today. TH On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 7:21 PM, samba - wrote: > I buy vinyl at the thrift stores all the time .This week picking through > Lawrence Welk the 1001 strings and the Anita Kerr singers,I found the other > day,Pharoah Saunders Thembi , Abercrombe and Towner on Ecm, Herbie Hancock > Crossings which is amazing, perfect cond. for a buck each.But more and more > I'm competing with college students for it. > ------=_Part_175267_28452380.1230866822144 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The popularity of cheap, used, "vintage" (released 10+ years ago) vinyl is one thing, but if people aren't willing to pay new vinyl prices for current releases on vinyl, then this "trend" is not really helping most musicians today.  

TH

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 7:21 PM, samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.com> wrote:
 I buy vinyl at the thrift stores all the time .This week picking through Lawrence Welk the 1001 strings and the Anita Kerr singers,I found the other day,Pharoah Saunders Thembi , Abercrombe and Towner on Ecm, Herbie Hancock Crossings which is amazing, perfect cond. for a buck each.But more and more I'm competing with college students for it.

------=_Part_175267_28452380.1230866822144-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 03:41:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA8743BE75; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=kZ1JL6TURhAYuY4twbAuiHUbH4jFMnOVKMZjNIVz+QQ=; b=UADC5veG/7zOSwtKLqpGBv4jpda+2R4sQQO2VbOtDS8oCWs0agDwxcfELgmYBH130E X8cxWwFUBvDBxEOoDtZjFOuo7fRoYVDYHSL3Ig7feLwLBGiVRx0ys4ZX3gHFO+d9EwZr f01iDNVAT4SEbTBCbwm7DBibMmDTuQaTG0wf0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ugZvD2oeJax/oBM9b1l78Ss5GFBUswj9wI4Rn00zYLsBjlqFpIGLc8fKwwcQ0mzPH6 wJ56etcNsRUXlcWy+MWt9j5r82TCx81J2gS2Be6Yw/5rw10hrVhohCFOcCZztis/gigK hZayWjt1tf2yMQJhP9IfhheZoxXbTpPYR2BQk= Message-ID: <9e0440a60901011941t1ec7dbag78878dfa1e1564e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:41:44 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: FCP/E and Intel Mac question(s) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_185145_31449378.1230867704265" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:41:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_185145_31449378.1230867704265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm wondering if anyone, possibly Mark if you catch this one, can advise me on a transition I'm about to make. I'm moving my editing ventures to either FCHD, FCP or FCE. My plans are to get either a new Macbook 2.1mhz (2gig ram) or a used Macbook Pro 2.16 or 2.33mhz (2gig ram). Since the Macbook has integrated video I've understood that parts of FC won't work such as Motion and the Color mod? Is this right? Will the other modules work on this machine? Will everything work on a Macbook Pro? I'm leaning towards Mbooks as I get a lot done on my subway commutes re editing (presently working in Premiere on a Dell). Also I have at present a copy of FCHD 4.0 that will load on my 500mhz G4 tower but bombs out when you try to render anything, gathering it's just too inefficient hw. Will that version 4.0 with the 4.5 update run on the Intel Mac's? If not what version will? Thanks for all info and happy new year. Jim -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_185145_31449378.1230867704265 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm wondering if anyone, possibly Mark if you catch this one, can advise me on a transition I'm about to make. 
 
I'm moving my editing ventures to either FCHD, FCP or FCE.
 
My plans are to get either a new Macbook 2.1mhz (2gig ram) or a used Macbook Pro 2.16 or 2.33mhz (2gig ram).  Since the Macbook has integrated video I've understood that parts of FC won't work such as Motion and the Color mod?  Is this right?  Will the other modules work on this machine?  Will everything work on a Macbook Pro?
 
I'm leaning towards Mbooks as I get a lot done on my subway commutes re editing (presently working in Premiere on a Dell).
 
Also I have at present a copy of FCHD 4.0 that will load on my 500mhz G4 tower but bombs out when you try to render anything, gathering it's just too inefficient hw.  Will that version 4.0 with the 4.5 update run on the Intel Mac's?  If not what version will?
 
Thanks for all info and happy new year.
 
Jim

--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_185145_31449378.1230867704265-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 03:58:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F17513BE78; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_de369837-1fff-4ad2-a3cd-1ff7ac2cc667_" X-Originating-IP: [67.169.176.84] From: samba - To: Subject: RE: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #3 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:58:04 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090102034146.4C73F3BE7C@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090102034146.4C73F3BE7C@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2009 03:58:04.0673 (UTC) FILETIME=[50651F10:01C96C8E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:58:05 +0000 (UTC) --_de369837-1fff-4ad2-a3cd-1ff7ac2cc667_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Agreed. A lot of it is used by Djs who are now a significant segment of = music performers ( many of them are distinctly not musicians=2Cbut some of = them are and some are very creative)=2Cand by producers esp. for grooves to= loop. Nothing new there=2Cit's been going on for a generation. It does man= there are folks with turntables that buy vinyl=2Cso maybe it's possible to= use beerbudget strategies for them as a market niche.Like if someone got h= old of a lathe cheap fr instance.Buying new equipment doesn't sound econom= ically feasible.=20 "The popularity of cheap=2C used=2C "vintage" (released 10+ years ago) vinyl is one thing=2C but if people aren't willing to pay new vinyl prices for current releases on vinyl=2C then this "trend" is not really helping most musicians today."= --_de369837-1fff-4ad2-a3cd-1ff7ac2cc667_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B =3B Agreed. A lot of it is used by Djs who are now a significa= nt segment of music performers ( many of them are distinctly not musicians= =2Cbut some of them are and some are very creative)=2Cand by producers esp.= for grooves to loop. Nothing new there=2Cit's been going on for a generati= on. It does man there are folks with turntables that buy vinyl=2Cso maybe i= t's possible to use beerbudget strategies for them as a market niche.Like i= f someone got hold of a lathe cheap fr instance.Buying new =3B equipmen= t doesn't sound economically feasible.

"The popularity of cheap=2C = used=2C "vintage" (released 10+ years ago) vinyl is one thing=2C but if people aren't willing to pay new vinyl prices for current releases on vinyl=2C then this "trend" is not really helping most musicians today." = --_de369837-1fff-4ad2-a3cd-1ff7ac2cc667_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 06:01:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADBF83BE77; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 06:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.56.6] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823980856@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Subject: Re: Vinyl... sorry, but the material is suspect Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:01:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02FE_01C96C64.EFAA88F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2009 06:01:55.0291 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D6372B0:01C96C9F] Resent-Message-ID: <0978rB.A.9oH.U3aXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 06:01:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02FE_01C96C64.EFAA88F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I didn't know this about vinyl. Thanks for sharing, Hal. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 Lest someone leap immediately to the conclusion that what I'm about to = say is too simple, I'll preface it by saying that any holistic analysis = of the environmental effects of our choices is inevitably very complex = and ultimately requires multiple qualifications and copious research. = That out of the way... just about the entire life cycle of polyvinyl = chloride is really injurious to the planet and its living creatures. If you don't know what I mean, see the film Blue Vinyl. I too love LPs as physical objects, but much of what we've been doing = needs to change.On balance, sans the copious research admittedy, I have = concluded that I cannot support the resurgence of vinyl LPs. Hal Dean -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Michael Billow [mailto:mbillow@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 12/31/2008 5:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vinyl I woulda thought that too, since the same applies for reel to reel = tape technology. But even though their not made anymore, those tape = recorders remain beloved by many, and rather expensive on Ebay.=20 Vinyl is so out of style that chances are pretty good one = could find old cutting lathes etc. somewhere sitting in a = warehouse,basement,fleamarket for cheap. I wonder how much of that gear = has gone to the dump. ------=_NextPart_000_02FE_01C96C64.EFAA88F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I didn't know this about vinyl. Thanks = for sharing,=20 Hal.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
 
Lest = someone leap=20 immediately to the conclusion that what I'm about to say is too = simple, I'll=20 preface it by saying that any holistic analysis of the environmental = effects=20 of our choices is inevitably very complex and ultimately requires=20 multiple qualifications and copious research.  That out of = the=20 way... just about the entire life = cycle of=20 polyvinyl chloride is really injurious to the planet and = its living=20 creatures.
 
If you don't  know = what I mean, see=20 the film Blue Vinyl.
 
I too love LPs as physical = objects, but=20 much of what we've been doing needs to change.On balance, sans the = copious=20 research admittedy, I have concluded that I cannot support the = resurgence of=20 vinyl LPs.
 
Hal Dean

From: Michael Billow=20 [mailto:mbillow@gmail.com]
Sent: Wed 12/31/2008 5:52=20 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 Vinyl

I woulda thought that too, since the same applies for reel to = reel tape=20 technology. But even though their not made anymore, those tape = recorders=20 remain beloved by many, and rather expensive on Ebay.

 

    Vinyl is so out of style that = chances=20 are pretty good one could find old cutting lathes etc. somewhere = sitting=20 in a warehouse,basement,fleamarket for cheap. I wonder how much of = that=20 gear has gone to the=20 dump.

------=_NextPart_000_02FE_01C96C64.EFAA88F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 06:29:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F51A3BE78; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 06:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: X-Y vector pad for MIDI foot control? Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:29:14 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C96C60.6378A140" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AclsookR0wEy1BUjSRCKBlYYqorPAw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <31UwoB.A.A9._QbXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 06:29:19 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C96C60.6378A140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gee.maybe this would work......:-) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00000J0HG/sr=8-1/qid=1230877217/ref =dp_image_0?ie=UTF8 &n=165793011&s=toys-and-games&qid=1230877217&sr=8-1 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C96C60.6378A140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Gee…maybe this would = work………………J

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C96C60.6378A140-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 06:34:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D0AB3BE78; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 06:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=p/qoaMkckxJRLrWzBZaLCq9WlK5MJLAKt/Fgxwb4cS8=; b=R4ZYM9DvRwAjAb0QBQDoOIQwHrllqXdZ4t3sBAKB2j0y8jEKgiJau6dmbJEZe9G9s9 xXG4qN70K9keGHAjvymBN0W6zVpMzSPSUR3LN6RpNmMt7nYH4HbR5ZCWR9HoIAr5V24N W5LaXN9F8rpIpzNZ9JEX8BAQXNeBCtv4v8GG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=RgteTGkn/WSOsq+qCAIxHG4y3zzhE6Q87Vo6fwU4d7AbwoSs+svzkZq6oYnh5mZU+x CfB5BwCBVUMbkDqCTuWQhF2a0Ava07N1RS9J4eH+3OQMPqf2kN9cQpi4PIpNE9nuwRyp 9IT7p4QaPY3runxHKnKYlK0HV0q5/drmLT9Bc= Message-ID: <91d8478b0901012234w548285c5q9485545892e95dd7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 01:34:10 -0500 From: "Jean-Paul De Roover" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: X-Y vector pad for MIDI foot control? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_86797_27007883.1230878050324" References: Resent-Message-ID: <5A-GKC.A.VIB.jVbXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 06:34:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_86797_27007883.1230878050324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline It's perfect! I know a guy who knows a guy who could probably turn it into a music maker. On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:29 AM, William Walker wrot= e: > Gee=85maybe this would work=85=85=85=85=85=85J > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00000J0HG/sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1230877= 217/ref=3Ddp_image_0?ie=3DUTF8&n=3D165793011&s=3Dtoys-and-games&qid=3D12308= 77217&sr=3D8-1 > --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com ------=_Part_86797_27007883.1230878050324 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline It's perfect!  I know a guy who knows a guy who could probably tur= n it into a music maker.

On Fri, Jan 2, 2= 009 at 1:29 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:



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= www.jeanpaulderoover.com ------=_Part_86797_27007883.1230878050324-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 11:42:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F21C3BE79; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=zva7OSg36dk+puiQ3CRjVH3niFyOSagznqX4tpg/i3Y=; b=uuC0dolcBcTaWe6z/bkLp32J3yL/xEDwqDOBgGGHKoHCOlCQVYmg5w7KUKdllaoKxU 96J7qinSU836NQy/Nb3e166mOAjoLbLgzGePQdg9Lztat0R/k619uAELpTJxLCB/EUa4 Svq6ha/FEavyKZUZ84I9q8gvQtnVkB09Hg96Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=xO6ZC2nI8S/W59VdOHWu2LNCI9O3S3v9p2ERZGtQxw914tgooWM0osJJ2sWspjXTjX +1IBY25fyUL1TKAQbTs5uIic655qsDLLzdlUrdL29p3Qe8QN2xJV/0mvvmBLWA0tJcRw R9EgWv7kZ2WAhM8hUHwcfqF9CrcUqtTJRh0C4= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0901020342w34b44eb0k97ea5310a0752ea7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:42:16 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: FCP/E and Intel Mac question(s) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60901011941t1ec7dbag78878dfa1e1564e7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9e0440a60901011941t1ec7dbag78878dfa1e1564e7@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 80c736652e8c5261 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:42:19 +0000 (UTC) I have to be honest that I dont know... anything about FCE (what even IS that?) however i can report that I have a MacBookPro 2.33ghz with 4 g RAM. I have FCP STUDIO 2. ...and both Color and Motion work... OK.. Not superfast, but fine. Now I have to say that I NEVER use Color... Seems like putting a High End Pro Package like this in an editting suite is pointless, people go to college to JUST learn grading, there is no way YOU are ever gonna do anything in it that you cant do with the effects in FCP. (Use the 3 point colour corrector in FCP... F**k Color) Motion is well... the opposite.. if you want to chuck together an intro from templates, its ok.. if I want a bit of fire or smoke, I sometimes make it in Motion to "throw on the timeline in FCP", but ANY compositing or Animation or anything really, Motion is such a cludge, weird interface, weird workflow... save yourself some time, get Adobe AfterEffects instead, and learn the PROPER way to do it... MY FAVORITE PROGRAM.. I even do Audio editing in it, and use it instead of Photoshop! ha ha!! One can discuss the RIGHT computer for the job until the cows come home.. all you need to know is that "Everything WILL work on a MacBookPro". Just... be prepared to watch a few rendering bars once in a while, make sure you use the correct settings for your footage (dont OVER do the quality) and you should have no problem... Mark On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone, possibly Mark if you catch this one, can advise me > on a transition I'm about to make. > > I'm moving my editing ventures to either FCHD, FCP or FCE. > > My plans are to get either a new Macbook 2.1mhz (2gig ram) or a used Macbook > Pro 2.16 or 2.33mhz (2gig ram). Since the Macbook has integrated video I've > understood that parts of FC won't work such as Motion and the Color mod? Is > this right? Will the other modules work on this machine? Will everything > work on a Macbook Pro? > > I'm leaning towards Mbooks as I get a lot done on my subway commutes re > editing (presently working in Premiere on a Dell). > > Also I have at present a copy of FCHD 4.0 that will load on my 500mhz G4 > tower but bombs out when you try to render anything, gathering it's just > too inefficient hw. Will that version 4.0 with the 4.5 update run on the > Intel Mac's? If not what version will? > > Thanks for all info and happy new year. > > Jim > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars > - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay > Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 12:31:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB8F53BE7C; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=o1Vp6y3gB0EUOXsVJHIBDzGk2K2/fOToVJLEycpyG6k=; b=wyuTl4Y1YnO4rv0s/GzdFRycSKgDYRWrh70Kb22TLEcPydsHTSXscQiDCqlw5uG0zb jDN73+3U2ke+5Gx7aHrl68/7A+a3n4SEqykLjpO6jbDbmOdBHgjml6UkmumYwQ0ZJizO zrgX/MI1B2H/dUSz7q9dVNK6QJzzw+btucGVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=fr5sSIDAs8EHl9RYx7V4STifPt60YDDpBlQxZNj3VhK//Dt3iJavZM6HRaBu2CrzBB 5NIzlB/Wv0pMvLiO7ZLv/ECdOoKa7zf3Ede1UvEYlvwEF92uoO1tyBkBYHIJEaNKfGop YkRi5rsgsq2zSBqK7J8ngi5o/53/0oHkrNj+w= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901020431n16e1d523y5d7d451791113f29@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:31:27 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: X-Y vector pad for MIDI foot control? In-Reply-To: <91d8478b0901012234w548285c5q9485545892e95dd7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <91d8478b0901012234w548285c5q9485545892e95dd7@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Cool! :-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6550 On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > It's perfect! I know a guy who knows a guy who could probably turn it in= to > a music maker. > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:29 AM, William Walker > wrote: >> >> Gee=85maybe this would work=85=85=85=85=85=85J >> >> >> >> >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00000J0HG/sr=3D8-1/qid=3D123087= 7217/ref=3Ddp_image_0?ie=3DUTF8&n=3D165793011&s=3Dtoys-and-games&qid=3D1230= 877217&sr=3D8-1 > > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 12:43:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D70E3BE79; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Qe2B8A3gZdhCxntMaWQR3GmMIy+HfOh8jbTiCS894UU=; b=MNhd+1l0DKBOBJWkLL/Ngs5Nly+5yA0ccuuaABvJkj4jczJR67ht1KVBQGiTL5zkC4 38pBKf1+u6bb8zfAfVDL6dNdMs6Ue3jtpUTKgmVlFmHJd7G85WPhL2zKLav97j66HjvG 9/7ZOqyQgcOcNzSv60PYKApsh46T1BrXp684k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=x48ixslhYYf1Y71vgTDEeZ1F7O3H8DS22EuDN63b+kTrx7cG9m2nJd+gKgbtH3O9UM QL7f/jLxIcaXvVc+dZf5C/lVmRv5hUSgtkD4S0QkdBXoW9fqAFNwFOZYgEcf1ps5KjWF 6dL7EUbOyyzHQmHe5BsCj4ulGJytqycrgU0CQ= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901020443x48ff18eepad8df12e93a985d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:43:42 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vinyl... sorry, but the material is suspect In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823980856@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Resent-Message-ID: <960NiD.A.7nC.-vgXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:43:42 +0000 (UTC) A while back we used Vinyl for scratching in an art performance. Taking an LP with both hands, braking it into smaller pieced and scratching them against each other. I made a flash animation video to document the gig: http://www.boysen.se/df/ Per On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I didn't know this about vinyl. Thanks for sharing, Hal. > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Lest someone leap immediately to the conclusion that what I'm about to say > is too simple, I'll preface it by saying that any holistic analysis of the > environmental effects of our choices is inevitably very complex and > ultimately requires multiple qualifications and copious research. That out > of the way... just about the entire life cycle of polyvinyl chloride is > really injurious to the planet and its living creatures. > > If you don't know what I mean, see the film Blue Vinyl. > > I too love LPs as physical objects, but much of what we've been doing needs > to change.On balance, sans the copious research admittedy, I have concluded > that I cannot support the resurgence of vinyl LPs. > > Hal Dean > ________________________________ > From: Michael Billow [mailto:mbillow@gmail.com] > Sent: Wed 12/31/2008 5:52 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Vinyl > > I woulda thought that too, since the same applies for reel to reel tape > technology. But even though their not made anymore, those tape recorders > remain beloved by many, and rather expensive on Ebay. > >> >> Vinyl is so out of style that chances are pretty good one could find >> old cutting lathes etc. somewhere sitting in a warehouse,basement,fleamarket >> for cheap. I wonder how much of that gear has gone to the dump. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 12:45:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 653F73BE7C; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=v93BbL+c3AkZnAZ/bfn5rE2qznTr1S0ZT2Jy8bAgpvo=; b=qpp4VXI1f3q3kpxnrndbeKtOJt+Jk57MZpW9VJmR8iZbzRvf6D0yVu60bhEfVo7ehU F/Mf0dw6D+kVl8IuR21XmJ1Ya8LOFuhyuIvjz/fmZ/k4Q0ccvHGPD5wKG+BKuwu0O5VS NTn+z6/aXPBpkuutjXInW6glI/nO23vP15X5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=V/EF5i9aTTbgsJ/N0E3Yb+kQ0k0bNcTdzyu1oA5WFPcJFNCTwZFw5H4ec0fBh2h4gB ltXWY2xBmD0qWPW7A3uXp97KIDQnZk0Wx4AY37jKldKKwldDsqaxJ6WwgPD2clGGbHgN DSWZSsJQ+rsz669xYtRDh7HZ0eEsMEKc8X204= Message-ID: <101191640901020445m3a8d8060g514f30c0586c3b47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 07:45:28 -0500 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Logic distributed processing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_200775_30324356.1230900328520" X-Google-Sender-Auth: aed7633bd1143732 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:45:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_200775_30324356.1230900328520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was browsing through part of the copious documentation that comes with Logic and noticed, to my surprise, that it includes a way to offload some of the processing to another machine. I didn't study it closely, so I didn't notice whether that meant an arbitrary machine on the network, or there had to be some special Firewire coupling, but I was impressed. Just wondering if anyone here has tried distributed processing with Logic? Might be the best way to get extra bang for the buck on the next computer upgrade - keep the old computer and use it as an auxiliary processor. ------=_Part_200775_30324356.1230900328520 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was browsing through part of the copious documentation that comes with Logic and noticed, to my surprise, that it includes a way to offload some of the processing to another machine. I didn't study it closely, so I didn't notice whether that meant an arbitrary machine on the network, or there had to be some special Firewire coupling, but I was impressed.

Just wondering if anyone here has tried distributed processing with Logic? Might be the best way to get extra bang for the buck on the next computer upgrade - keep the old computer and use it as an auxiliary processor.


------=_Part_200775_30324356.1230900328520-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 12:52:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 382C13BE79; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=TLh2K5jVtl1Gp5ppJAnah0FGMzwIEqqj4WEPTAITU0I5zYFAK3I1weRD0vzJGHAZqmSx4OIDmN1n/BLbcXIfkKcpWxUC5ILNEjAks6gVlHVZJZbq1olH+FD/HYGNeTDITub5K+PnploZbhNXGk2NozHzjnmX24GDhbSWKitZzCQ=; X-YMail-OSG: cWVxkXoVM1lfmeObIJA5nAMY888XU1a5u7ABvn5LlGPuWw3KjfBUnbZthPZC9Re6l4ZreomxL4ZZkj8CB9t.PFl6fsQPKbo0aZ6skuXLTdAOroqUROPxixjeeaBxhQnXp5JyYm3c9P_BTAABsqk4F8F23Jaq1_uiRC2yuczbhsLIuiRGTcLs4gnnmmjoGejQrwxSNautkWNq0W2TCb7esBPW5vJI5Ke73A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 04:52:47 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: feedback buster for nylon string To: billwalker@baymoon.com Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <4132C5D2525941EBB4E43D330EABBAD0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <739565.75128.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Thanx for the info Bill,i find it amazing that there arent really many professional dual stereo pickup systems for the new two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,this isnt new it has been growing since Michael Hedges invented it,it must be that the market isnt big enough yet.B-band put out a system a few years ago and now it has been discontinued,systems like the trance audio are top class but not very practical for live purposes,if u lose that cable good luck,or if you want to use other guitars thorugh your pedalboard good luck trying to route it through their preamp grr! I havent found any guitar with this internal microphone system that sound good with it,most people end up not using it at all,i wanted it to drum on my flamenco and it works as long as i have the mic signal at about 10% of it and stuffing the soundhole.So you say its possible to change the capsel for better sound results as well? Happy new 2009! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 1/1/09, William Walker wrote: > From: William Walker > Subject: RE: feedback buster for nylon string > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 10:47 AM > Great Trick Krispen, I'll have to try that sometime on > my flamenco guitar.. > Unfortunately for you Luis, The mics goose neck might get > in the way of that > technique as would a feedback buster. You might inquire at > this site, they > are based in San Francisco and are all about classical > guitars. > http://www.gspguitar.com/jsp2/customerService.jsp?pg=main , > I've looked for > a long time for a classical hole sized feedback buster, and > I'm not sure any > one makes one. I assume your controls are on the outside. > My feeling about > internal mics, is the less used the better :) The thing > is, you are using a > tiny inexpensive microphone capsule that is getting much > less current (9 > volts) than a typical studio condenser mic (18-48 volts > typically), it is > also placed inside the sound hole facing the back of the > guitar which in > itself is going to give a boxy "old time radio > broadcast" sound character, > and be more feedback prone. To design a microphone of this > type, they have > to design certain frequency response out of the mic to make > it less feedback > prone, as well, making the sound more low fi, and further > away from the > optimal mic sound, and placement in a controlled studio > environment. I ran > in to this problem with the Duncan Mag mic Pickup that I > use in my Hawaiian > lap guitar. I can only use a little mic to add a bit of > body, otherwise the > guitar will start to feedback, and will be come overly > noisy to handle. Now > if I was Lawrence Juber, and had the $700 dollar custom mic > cabsule > installed in my MagMic like he does, perhaps I'd use it > more. > The other issue is monitoring, if you are using > conventional monitors I > would definitely place them on stands, as any time I use my > flamenco or > steel string with monitors placed on the ground in a > conventional way, I > have problems with bass standing waves, and coupling > feedback. I have been > recently demoing the new Fishman tower linear speaker > design that is lighter > weight and almost a third the price of the Bose system. > Yesterday I was > playing a Guild cutaway nylon string with a simple fishman > matrix pickup. > This is a solid wood guitar made in China, and I sat right > in front of the > speakers as I played and we turned it up enough to fill the > store, but we > were up perhaps half way. NO feedback issues at all. Now I > couldn't > guarantee that for you if you were using an internal mic, > and I'm pretty > certain the fishman lacks any of the Bose search and > destroy feedback > technology, But the linear array design is remarkable for > not producing as > much midrange and low end howling. I will do some tests > with a Martin that > has a prefix premium system and let you know how it fairs. > Otherwise a > little goes along way with internal mics. Just a bit will > give the guitar > more body and potential for beat box tones on different > surfaces, without > increasing handling noise too much. > Happy New Year one and all > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:info@krispenhartung.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:38 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: feedback buster for nylon string > > The best method I have ever used, is to buy a black > balloon, and blow it up > inside the sound hole (not too tight, just enough to seal > off the sound > hole). Tie it off and turn it around so that you don't > see the end. It is > amazing, and costs about 3 cents. :) I learned it from an > old jazzer years > > ago. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Hi Loopers, > > Is there a feedback reducer for nylon strings like the > feedback buster > > that covers the soundhole for steel string guitars? my > recently acquired > > flamenco guitar has the fishman Prefix Premium Blend > with the internal mic > > > and is very sensitive to feedback,so far i havent > found anything that fits > > > the soundhole of a nylon string.However the feedback > buster solved all > > problems on my steel string,great and simple gadget! > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 12:59:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A56D3BE79; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090102125902898.DB6801C00084@mwinf2702.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20090102125249.BEEF63BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090102125249.BEEF63BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--809128522 Message-Id: <902341bdc17782a1ddb8090cc0595c11@laposte.net> From: o.malhomme@laposte.net Subject: OT: FCP/E and Intel Mac question(s) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:59:01 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:59:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--809128522 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed You may keep in mind that the new macbook has no firewire.... Olivier --Apple-Mail-2--809128522 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Lucida GrandeYou may keep in mind that the new macbook has no firewire.... Olivier --Apple-Mail-2--809128522-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 13:10:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11D343BE78; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+ET6POSwx1B6P5jaZylNV5zcB7IPTFXfIJ7lcwH36DA=; b=H+p4REmOLXvEgyI3ZhkvEcYqVelxA1LJ6ZYmzj/OYsAANH4pU7jWHd2X4k4zPUW1Vu kg9VOp0rse/o3inrXYt/Bv/qbh3ynrl2MI07pBgttII3WTfzIUVRAwN6/YlBAxveAjL3 ObtYgk5F6476HV/ZtPCQ7WyVRfyzfZYS/30bM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IXLfeY1lrf8Bk7TMaIgZtqm87d80bWZC1FI+0yQlpOB8jR3OVLFZ2uenx2TD+b/Pne kR5VhD3Xsr0tcG+wsOjBGeszPcmrL9QIN+BlSjfP7KQ1ZioO6yUL1IOFunpMQ3zEvx7L MA1ptOmz4LHs1taEY6SupIqIo1MZJ6JcKJwDU= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901020510n721f1a75p8eac2ae56c42f15e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:10:31 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Logic distributed processing In-Reply-To: <101191640901020445m3a8d8060g514f30c0586c3b47@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <101191640901020445m3a8d8060g514f30c0586c3b47@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Sure! I tried out the Node system the day it was released and it works very well with Logic's own plug-ins and instruments. Due to copyright issues you Apple can not allow that power to third-party plug-is like for example Kontakt. I hooked up my old 1.25 MB PPC cpu PowerBook to a much stornger Mac and was able to run a recording project on the crappy laptop that exceeded it's CPU capacity with more than 300 percent. We used to call the Distributed Processing feature "a Pro Tools Killer" but today it seems like it is Digidesign that unleashes "a Logic Killer" ;-) He, he.. but seriously, the Node function in Logic is truly unique lets you stack several cheap but strong Mac Mini boxes to do the hard CPU work in the background. However, in real life I have never undertaken a project so CPU demanding that I have even needed to look into this function. I just tested it for a musician magazine once because I had to write a review. It's good to know there is unlimited power handy, if you should run into a situation where you need it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6550 On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > I was browsing through part of the copious documentation that comes with > Logic and noticed, to my surprise, that it includes a way to offload some of > the processing to another machine. I didn't study it closely, so I didn't > notice whether that meant an arbitrary machine on the network, or there had > to be some special Firewire coupling, but I was impressed. > > Just wondering if anyone here has tried distributed processing with Logic? > Might be the best way to get extra bang for the buck on the next computer > upgrade - keep the old computer and use it as an auxiliary processor. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 13:18:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6682B3BE75; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <66f9cc1e0901020443x48ff18eepad8df12e93a985d3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Vinyl... sorry, but the material is suspect Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:18:14 +0100 Message-ID: <007001c96cdc$91ca29c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901020443x48ff18eepad8df12e93a985d3@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: Acls2nCNerd7mfU/TgixFa9S10S2QAAAg2mA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.45; VDF: 7.1.1.57) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:18:17 +0000 (UTC) > From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] > I made a flash animation video to document the gig: > http://www.boysen.se/df/ very cool !! :-) -mpe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 13:19:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DFD03BE7E; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=jPOPZ8+85bvNfEpc38nizx1G+T/6V3eqIG2GFpFOC8M=; b=rXmBRh9a6j1RxWfOOqzupDAwsjctSqM5vOjel2dGACeQ9yhsrWuRmXaj+WJNPCiN5Y kQTAE1ttyvGEmTcWH6+W10Bl6CjYnq0vrwp5798nI2gwq6Bq4ABpbjfDZJLZJZFjMBOU uv5fpsdQ16/VI1V8roip97X6v/4fKT05ZlKKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ns0C2WYbOPiHnqbguiOCsBK2jlasNHOYVRazOJgepVFT+/un7xjdT9CDHIlZ4a5jzl woBVsWd/6Q3FZW6NzLbCWsMliTL675XQYL1MdVed4/q7I1+eSVu+hVNA2Wicb2nHgMdD 8LW1ug6AbzTJA9rYOASlsCTdAZ7ts26Rk5Zro= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:19:24 -0500 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: electro-music NYE streaming event In-Reply-To: <495D74B0.1000700@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_228406_6034570.1230902364117" References: <477dfd520812301305v2ca5d3ev5b659aea6a78334b@mail.gmail.com> <1225D3CE-5AFB-4707-B3B7-AC44D25D0395@zoekeating.com> <5C88BDDC2F894FFD8651FC6D2F871030@eluk1> <68436C88765C4F8CA4D7EB83B866E801@eluk1> <66f9cc1e0812311023k2b5ffc93tf9daf2dccc6d09fe@mail.gmail.com> <25366336.1230750093899.JavaMail.root@m05> <495D74B0.1000700@soundscapes.us> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:19:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_228406_6034570.1230902364117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline There was quite a bit of very lovely and fun work ... let's hope more Loopers can make it for next year (we WILL be doing it again next year, right, Bill?). Much fun and not to be missed. Best, Dennis On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > >> I'm presenting an ambient work entitled "Serene Whirled" -- so no loopage >> from me -- just synth stuff. I am recovering from a nasty headcold which >> kept me out of the studio thus I had to scrap my plans to do a live-looping >> set. Maybe next year :) >> > Kevin; You recording was magnificent. I was at Howard's setting up my > gear while it was playing. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_228406_6034570.1230902364117 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline There was quite a bit of very lovely and fun work ... let's hope more Loopers can make it for next year (we WILL be doing it again next year, right, Bill?).

Much fun and not to be missed.

Best,

Dennis

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:
kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote:
I'm presenting an ambient work entitled "Serene Whirled" -- so no loopage from me -- just synth stuff.  I am recovering from a nasty headcold which kept me out of the studio thus I had to scrap my plans to do a live-looping set.  Maybe next year :)
Kevin;  You recording was magnificent.  I was at Howard's setting up my gear while it was playing.

Cheers,

Bill




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------=_Part_228406_6034570.1230902364117-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 13:30:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD32E3BE79; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 08:31:47 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #613 for January 1, 2009. To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <495E1743.3030703@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:30:11 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090101.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #613 January 1, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on the William Edge. The Featured CD at Midnight was Kaleidoscope. William Edge: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jan PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) VA [moonbooter] String Theory Musiczeit 02 Ian Boddy The Probability of Slide (DiN) Doubt Steve Roach and 1 - 7 Stream of Thought (Projekt) Erik Wollo Northern Valentin Already Gone The Distance Brings Us Closer (Silber) William Edge Color Aqua Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) William Edge New Snow Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== William Edge Sepia Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) William Edge Ascend Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) William Edge Color Yellow Dark Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) Blue William Edge Shadow Light Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) William Edge Goddess of Death Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) William Edge Sun Over Mist Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) William Edge Rainbow After Clouds Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) William Edge Color of Love Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) William Edge Metro Space Kaleidoscope (Sounds Blue) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on William Edge. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Breathing Without Air: The Universe Within" on Sounds Blue Music. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy.asx http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy2.ram To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 14:00:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47AC03BE7B; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 429 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:00:21 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Kd6xBu+CZQnTVilFuNrGhzav5VbXghkJjzhJF1fb41Gea2f38k0fIg2G7HfwqhRy; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <101191640901020445m3a8d8060g514f30c0586c3b47@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640901020445m3a8d8060g514f30c0586c3b47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:51:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: Logic distributed processing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79ea7dad9715ef13eec20404e10dc09b8b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:00:22 +0000 (UTC) It uses a network connection and the OSX utility "Qmaster" to distribute processing. I have not tried it since I have only one computer and it's a very very powerful one! >I was browsing through part of the copious documentation that comes >with Logic and noticed, to my surprise, that it includes a way to >offload some of the processing to another machine. I didn't study it >closely, so I didn't notice whether that meant an arbitrary machine >on the network, or there had to be some special Firewire coupling, >but I was impressed. > >Just wondering if anyone here has tried distributed processing with >Logic? Might be the best way to get extra bang for the buck on the >next computer upgrade - keep the old computer and use it as an >auxiliary processor. -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 14:25:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C5223BE7B; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 122063459/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.207.90/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.207.90 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugBAMqyXUlPTs9a/2dsb2JhbAAIjxm6a4VyhEQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,318,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="122063459" Message-ID: <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:30:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > We haven't had a defining cultural year in this past decade yet ( like > '68 in the sixties, '75 in the 70's , '82 in the 80's, etc.) was there anything in the 90's? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 14:32:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E02383BE73; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1PAv0k9AyAwAiUgyoZpqYC9gJy2Xgqq3mzjBjvh7LC4=; b=K7UoB66T6a3ffbJ5Fde+T27PHRPGAkY6A7QcbTq0UIAE2ji0zIesId8hA8BSMyqLmM nErQuXyYsDyiMLdhrhhHHEw8b01HvxLbvmgppiusGvg/XDSj2ympY4Si8W1R3TPZ1mUe Xwg4mTpVMFQZ1WARScUPaQ3yEQ77JDfGz3IIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HKUmJRVxFE3mjrij/m0jUtGQ3e98J6/Qyyfaq0J1TeX0jW9FX+0atB+vHtAp91q2mP QswOEQIBelrT8jPqyZzwNlJDDDvhQG9ljGY5wql04RkxQ6itfkfyWXX/Bn1Fk3Ghq5e3 l20zdG0Uu5hL76VwYArq4v78uCsUNGjn+cbw4= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901020632r7c8cde53q6769ab3226b20b6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:32:15 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? In-Reply-To: <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <1jIsSC.A.dbG.wViXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:32:16 +0000 (UTC) > Rick Walker wrote: > >> We haven't had a defining cultural year in this past decade yet ( like >> '68 in the sixties, '75 in the 70's , '82 in the 80's, etc.) > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:30 PM, andy butler wrote: > was there anything in the 90's? Some guys from Seattle caused every band on the planet to sound the same by the early 90's. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6550 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 14:44:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9972D3BE79; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=k5LWBdgdqRxZzUbnWerRoe1wTjmdCSbXxA1O0VDw1caScOx+83q+RKMsufSCnA/nqDbm9MteEd+ixqEa8m8tZiemV65NVxBWIKbzH/olmo4GnkNLHq6VYfI50rfmqafy; Message-ID: <20090102084447.di92nqzwm8kckk44@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 08:44:47 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, andy butler Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: <9qN53.A.kvG.fhiXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Quoting andy butler : > > Rick Walker wrote: > >> We haven't had a defining cultural year in this past decade yet ( >> like '68 in the sixties, '75 in the 70's , '82 in the 80's, >> etc.) > > was there anything in the 90's? > Thanks to hard-disk recording technology, large-scale multi-track recording and electronic music-making became available to millions of people. Prior to the 90s, such music-making was available only to a few elite recording artists. As far as a defining cultural year in the 90s? I can't really think of a specific year. The emergence of the World Wide Web and changed everything. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 14:52:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 720573BE78; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=s+gQ3QKOrZOEn4LvEGDETi95e38aM5wy/oKmE/769B4=; b=O0lLIqs5DPYlTzZpDmov4u965i9eyM4osxOTST47wMaqG/hGmbyoIpbV/iNFO2tI47 IeY+bBjImE5FVlawyRczzVXHw7cfEilPmoGdXQotRVTAr6DdZyd/JQ028pJxaBIdHHfW wlBPs7h9dmAC9RRbsjzutjxjy2G75El1yvZQ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=nxGev1cKVC2RQCIhbBBGa/FBm8TR7ECFs/7nT8CqeFZ0skaoUrNpISJBMVbpjuwLxj 3sxtan7dvFvGP+iXsntwN3zLaI3wpLYttWilaNCLWk2Hhs8GcD+qHXq0YVLaa90ll7Sd FusRfAlwIZlidaWwtMTnM7tQQy3fEnGZce0gA= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901020652n2d3ef22dva4a195fe1f189a8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:52:51 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? In-Reply-To: <20090102084447.di92nqzwm8kckk44@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> <20090102084447.di92nqzwm8kckk44@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:52:52 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:44 PM, wrote: > As far as a defining cultural year in the 90s? I can't really think of a > specific year. The emergence of the World Wide Web and changed everything. Yes, I remember the excitement when Mosaic was released! The first web browser that could show text and graphics together. Came out of Switzerland just as the EDP! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6550 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 16:06:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3CED3BE7E; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=8SxTVM/uhS2Yv2Q6fM0i4g8cbMqhE52wOBCr6IOoU6w=; b=bscG+YW7SEs6mvkBx0jlzC8ee4TLruYrxJSTOEmuJmVD5t4vo1rKVk2R4t6AW0BLTt tGy0G7kFWvwHIfNeaXQ+QUrH0LkmCJHDaJ8tcUt5cRyIQJwwwHQ8SYs2ZvVDYhC1KlG/ B95phtk0ooSw3/nznxtcljOQOomJntm+fJz1w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=s86wIo8LxT5TKjXmaNDuDEEnJtUfPnqeiyLi4fx78qJtWt/DngebDU1boyYSYAQD+j ccCDmKAqIsDA1d5uK4jiH6fBA1bpNulvgjk/o3++OaRYfxjJAeoNM0z23/+/hGBLxK5b EDTwwUNhGhPcoOy1pA94qcj+xWqJLGolRL+Uo= Message-ID: <7334ca1b0901020806r234ed7f8ge0d774b28c48110e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:06:53 +0100 From: "Rainer Straschill" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:06:54 +0000 (UTC) > Yes, I remember the excitement when Mosaic was released! The first web browser that could show text and graphics together. Came out of Switzerland just as the EDP! Actually, just like the WWW. (And for those who'd like to chime in here in favour of the DOD, that part of the internet you reach when entering something with "www" at the beginning/something riding on http). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 16:19:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B3D63BE7E; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=+pJBd4bu3cp6cEOPNRlv/WKGXFHRA6tukNtITZhm8yg=; b=LCkU6d0uabY5ECVmUX5mAEpQlc0+TgaVMV1AHWyIX75LOkO8gCBm9lpux3vReOKYbe JwPwyb8AsLuhOKlYkaqaNRZSvX1ZnmKbXtvz/gayg3juuebxgQdtt2im2CC3N/qkbUT5 CRZ2Hi+VwWczFVdf/jpsuFE20oDDqbv4Ruj5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=d3RQn1UW6destG/ERw4qygWEOkSnVe+6YBSnWTjfu1xHCKSZxzPG+0q+CdN3oX+3tT Z8qUT3m7v3ZmJPxqT/Os5TJD2pK+ooaKEHB5DiLxdxWfyPL+JOVuSc/RyxDViKJVYmuJ I2/kVkbxso+mzJZPWL4eYeK2Oh8UzXj8KKC3s= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:19:52 +0000 From: "Simeon Harris" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: new vid on vimeo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_168921_3960667.1230913192898" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:19:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_168921_3960667.1230913192898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline my first attempt at making a video.... http://vimeo.com/2697148 7 minutes to play 36 notes and one pick scrape and all bloody afternoon to edit the sound and images together and upload to the web! hopefully i'll get quicker at it! sim ------=_Part_168921_3960667.1230913192898 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline my first attempt at making a video....


7 minutes to play 36 notes and one pick scrape and all bloody afternoon to edit the sound and images together and upload to the web!

hopefully i'll get quicker at it!

sim
------=_Part_168921_3960667.1230913192898-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 16:23:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D13AC3BE89; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1sZYNsxEJjQcUSxFKmGT9z+RFcFuMkZex21OWTRviOs=; b=G26tyyBqBlaqd+iuLjg9R3cDuzHX+dN430m+WaZ7upFGSfB3aP0NsYfC8hMF9ypH42 TeRJq+VMA+o67lOp5rQdNC9C1X4Mr7w4wAA9CH/3Jp6yvOUP0GzaIWT3JrwJEh6a9vHR Z1vWImUFarNm/fnojdaB3kMqwXUonDutXEOhs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=VEYcN3CFL7+EKBqHKQuhs/Gh4NLfyufWb3EAI83dBt/QwcsHCeYdD5V5NTykha25av LR+qd8bg6J+cmnnfhb28WPgB1E/6sk4uFI5kYT5DkwZYO+WQt1bug7uWpo9HBDjPaDWM o3+HOSmnvI6APKUY+AWyGzqQMl2SQhHw8agbY= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:23:18 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new vid on vimeo In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5747_6591575.1230913398657" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:23:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5747_6591575.1230913398657 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Nice! On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > my first attempt at making a video.... > http://vimeo.com/2697148 > > 7 minutes to play 36 notes and one pick scrape and all bloody afternoon to > edit the sound and images together and upload to the web! > > hopefully i'll get quicker at it! > > sim > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_5747_6591575.1230913398657 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Nice!

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
my first attempt at making a video....


7 minutes to play 36 notes and one pick scrape and all bloody afternoon to edit the sound and images together and upload to the web!

hopefully i'll get quicker at it!

sim



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Tony
------=_Part_5747_6591575.1230913398657-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 16:30:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAAE13BE8A; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901020652n2d3ef22dva4a195fe1f189a8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> <20090102084447.di92nqzwm8kckk44@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <66f9cc1e0901020652n2d3ef22dva4a195fe1f189a8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 01:30:30 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:30:36 +0000 (UTC) At 3:52 PM +0100 1/2/09, Per Boysen wrote: >On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:44 PM, wrote: >> As far as a defining cultural year in the 90s? I can't really think of a > > specific year. The emergence of the World Wide Web and changed everything. > >Yes, I remember the excitement when Mosaic was released! The first web >browser that could show text and graphics together. Came out of >Switzerland just as the EDP! Whoops! Close, but no cigar. It was actually the HTTP protocol and HTML document language that was developed by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN in Switzerland, IIRC. There was an initial web browser (called, creatively enough, WWW) but I can remember using it and thinking "what the heck is the difference between this and Gopher"? Inspiring, it was not. Mosaic, however, was developed by the Software Development Group of the NCSA (National Center for Supercomputing Applications) at the University of Illinois (I started grad school at the U of I only a couple months after Mosaic was released). It can definitely lay claim to making apparent the power behind the Web. Coincidentally, the lead developer on Mosaic was a fellow by the name of Mark Andreson, who you might remember went on (only about four months later) to form a little company named Netscape. --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 16:33:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D85EB3BE88; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=pBnF7cAf/hmlD5tUgTOO6GxDHzFgqtedPGKygWi27i4=; b=IWjcrOeg47DRuIqtkGrAzO0TvzqsaBzpszJmkTIkijnPCkHw59caQDvkvDSIo15tN8 AT0G5++UQ7Svum8J+vwHUKxK+9EyQnXgJLemjVm7ZYEmp2cc9yFsSz5pFWTRY9oC8Qwa PSyueAIMl17lugl8G1g2/naZZMxDQj4K3IYPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FiZvbFLm5L+kbSdYvj3aegLqZBXQVLsQrM0WU9MrJLVmAQhbx77oOTZWvF/sTItUqs /i3yvLmjNLHgRXIjQTK8IlmZxBi6Xl9JORPuFsZVRp/NKNIWro+w/hZ4dEX+UKZTWedz JoY98OhAEZRnzbUunD17+AmZrNC063KHJKZu8= Message-ID: <9e0440a60901020832p1a107504r368b7f79b231dfdd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:32:59 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: FCP/E and Intel Mac question(s) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0901020342w34b44eb0k97ea5310a0752ea7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_189164_10983318.1230913979444" References: <9e0440a60901011941t1ec7dbag78878dfa1e1564e7@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0901020342w34b44eb0k97ea5310a0752ea7@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-8qFuB.A.uxD.9GkXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:33:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_189164_10983318.1230913979444 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Mark thanks very much. From all my research it was looking like the Macbook Pro would handle it but I have as I think I said an older ver of FCut HD v4 that I've upg'd to 4.5 which runs a bit on my G4 500mhz however not steadily. It loads up but generally errors out on rendering any footage beyond @20 sec and my feeling has been that it was never going to work until I got better hw. I then started learning that that the integrated video on the Macbook was an issue and I was wondering about the older package not working. In the end I'm pretty sure now (your input has helped) that I'm going to order a previously owned Macbook Pro from Gainsavers.com. They appear to buy and resell corporate lease machines of all types including Apple. Have a happy new year and thanks for all the info particularly about Motion. I was just watching a tutorial on it on CreativeCow.com last night - it was all about the templates. Jim On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:42 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I have to be honest that I dont know... anything about FCE (what even > IS that?) however i can report that I have a MacBookPro 2.33ghz with 4 > g RAM. I have FCP STUDIO 2. > > ...and both Color and Motion work... OK.. Not superfast, but fine. > > Now I have to say that I NEVER use Color... Seems like putting a High > End Pro Package like this in an editting suite is pointless, people go > to college to JUST learn grading, there is no way YOU are ever gonna > do anything in it that you cant do with the effects in FCP. (Use the 3 > point colour corrector in FCP... F**k Color) > > Motion is well... the opposite.. if you want to chuck together an > intro from templates, its ok.. if I want a bit of fire or smoke, I > sometimes make it in Motion to "throw on the timeline in FCP", but ANY > compositing or Animation or anything really, Motion is such a cludge, > weird interface, weird workflow... save yourself some time, get Adobe > AfterEffects instead, and learn the PROPER way to do it... MY FAVORITE > PROGRAM.. I even do Audio editing in it, and use it instead of > Photoshop! ha ha!! > > One can discuss the RIGHT computer for the job until the cows come > home.. all you need to know is that "Everything WILL work on a > MacBookPro". Just... be prepared to watch a few rendering bars once in > a while, make sure you use the correct settings for your footage (dont > OVER do the quality) and you should have no problem... > > Mark > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Jim Goodin > wrote: > > I'm wondering if anyone, possibly Mark if you catch this one, can advise > me > > on a transition I'm about to make. > > > > I'm moving my editing ventures to either FCHD, FCP or FCE. > > > > My plans are to get either a new Macbook 2.1mhz (2gig ram) or a used > Macbook > > Pro 2.16 or 2.33mhz (2gig ram). Since the Macbook has integrated video > I've > > understood that parts of FC won't work such as Motion and the Color mod? > Is > > this right? Will the other modules work on this machine? Will > everything > > work on a Macbook Pro? > > > > I'm leaning towards Mbooks as I get a lot done on my subway commutes re > > editing (presently working in Premiere on a Dell). > > > > Also I have at present a copy of FCHD 4.0 that will load on my 500mhz G4 > > tower but bombs out when you try to render anything, gathering it's just > > too inefficient hw. Will that version 4.0 with the 4.5 update run on the > > Intel Mac's? If not what version will? > > > > Thanks for all info and happy new year. > > > > Jim > > > > -- > > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > > Chinapainting - > > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > Chinapainting on My Space - > > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars > > - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay > > Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_189164_10983318.1230913979444 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Mark thanks very much.  From all my research it was looking like the Macbook Pro would handle it but I have as I think I said an older ver of FCut HD v4 that I've upg'd to 4.5 which runs a bit on my G4 500mhz however not steadily.  It loads up but generally errors out on rendering any footage beyond @20 sec and my feeling has been that it was never going to work until I got better hw.  I then started learning that that the integrated video on the Macbook was an issue and I was wondering about the older package not working.  In the end I'm pretty sure now (your input has helped) that I'm going to order a previously owned Macbook Pro from Gainsavers.com.  They appear to buy and resell corporate lease machines of all types including Apple.
 
Have a happy new year and thanks for all the info particularly about Motion.  I was just watching a tutorial on it on CreativeCow.com last night - it was all about the templates.
 
Jim

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:42 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
I have to be honest that I dont know... anything about FCE (what even
IS that?) however i can report that I have a MacBookPro 2.33ghz with 4
g RAM. I have FCP STUDIO 2.

...and both Color and Motion work... OK.. Not superfast, but fine.

Now I have to say that I NEVER use Color... Seems like putting a High
End Pro Package like this in an editting suite is pointless, people go
to college to JUST learn grading, there is no way YOU are ever gonna
do anything in it that you cant do with the effects in FCP. (Use the 3
point colour corrector in FCP... F**k Color)

Motion is well... the opposite.. if you want to chuck together an
intro from templates, its ok.. if I want a bit of fire or smoke, I
sometimes make it in Motion to "throw on the timeline in FCP", but ANY
compositing or Animation or anything really, Motion is such a cludge,
weird interface, weird workflow... save yourself some time, get Adobe
AfterEffects instead, and learn the PROPER way to do it... MY FAVORITE
PROGRAM.. I even do Audio editing in it, and use it instead of
Photoshop! ha ha!!

One can discuss the RIGHT computer for the job until the cows come
home.. all you need to know is that "Everything WILL work on a
MacBookPro". Just... be prepared to watch a few rendering bars once in
a while, make sure you use the correct settings for your footage (dont
OVER do the quality) and you should have no problem...

Mark

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone, possibly Mark if you catch this one, can advise me
> on a transition I'm about to make.
>
> I'm moving my editing ventures to either FCHD, FCP or FCE.
>
> My plans are to get either a new Macbook 2.1mhz (2gig ram) or a used Macbook
> Pro 2.16 or 2.33mhz (2gig ram).  Since the Macbook has integrated video I've
> understood that parts of FC won't work such as Motion and the Color mod?  Is
> this right?  Will the other modules work on this machine?  Will everything
> work on a Macbook Pro?
>
> I'm leaning towards Mbooks as I get a lot done on my subway commutes re
> editing (presently working in Premiere on a Dell).
>
> Also I have at present a copy of FCHD 4.0 that will load on my 500mhz G4
> tower but bombs out when you try to render anything, gathering it's just
> too inefficient hw.  Will that version 4.0 with the 4.5 update run on the
> Intel Mac's?  If not what version will?
>
> Thanks for all info and happy new year.
>
> Jim
>
> --
> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> Chinapainting -
> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> Chinapainting on My Space -
> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls -
> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars
> - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay
> Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
>



--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_189164_10983318.1230913979444-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 16:34:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 429B23BE89; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=UsBdRilSUuI4Ksso/+xpfifIVI8Nl8bagB1GmlNJRrQ=; b=eSOUUy29SOf71tdpQpt9MASPnDnzker5jvJCH10bHqkKPhxpJqNt4OmG3N/7ALwgYj TRpW89gtMll1HrswWErwEAn6UaHPzSooVBtm/EAOat9I0RHtBwzuKYF0Wp5VA7yLzrHE xi+Lb8wY/uHw1azHq/U5qg9XXuwmZcS4LlqbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=HMFKH6V4psk1E5ClFNfVnlqtMAXnLPEcawRPet67qjIh3k8Jf7OVRxD1v9/wLzcXnj 9ZGxpd3bGlbvhtgWp22LWOzWa/kz+Lj/gzR9bN3PGSf5XCSUch8kDtYja+P7P8PR+nNb 1Fm/354z2l33vQLUwrV3PtaUN01xXUVa7j1L8= Message-ID: <9e0440a60901020834u2582e285qff0244ae742ace27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:34:55 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: FCP/E and Intel Mac question(s) In-Reply-To: <902341bdc17782a1ddb8090cc0595c11@laposte.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_189189_25846149.1230914095627" References: <20090102125249.BEEF63BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> <902341bdc17782a1ddb8090cc0595c11@laposte.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:34:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_189189_25846149.1230914095627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Olivier thanks. THat was also pointed out to me by a non-list member as well. It's appearing that the Macbook Pro is my best shot which does have fw I believe. I had thought the Macbook had initially. Happy new year Jim On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:59 AM, o. malhomme @ laposte. net < o.malhomme@laposte.net> wrote: > You may keep in mind that the new macbook has no firewire.... > > Olivier -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_189189_25846149.1230914095627 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Olivier thanks.  THat was also pointed out to me by a non-list member as well.  It's appearing that the Macbook Pro is my best shot which does have fw I believe.  I had thought the Macbook had initially.
 
Happy new  year
 
Jim

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:59 AM, o. malhomme @ laposte. net <o.malhomme@laposte.net> wrote:
You may keep in mind that the new macbook has no firewire....

Olivier



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_189189_25846149.1230914095627-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 16:39:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B38D3BE88; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:39:35 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Well, there are a lot of significant things we might nominate as "defining" . . . but I have something else in mind. For the purpose of this list, a couple of much smaller "defining" moments are worth mentioning: 1). The debut of the original Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro (1994) 2). The birth of this discussion list/community (1996) The latter of which would not exist without the former, and a case could be made that this community would never have existed without the efforts of Kim Flint, Matthias Grob and a few others. As for the big defining cultural issues . . . I'd say the rise of the internet . . . but it's still rising. Cheers, Ted On Jan 2, 2009, at 6:30 AM, andy butler wrote: > Rick Walker wrote: > >> We haven't had a defining cultural year in this past decade yet ( >> like '68 in the sixties, '75 in the 70's , '82 in the 80's, >> etc.) > > was there anything in the 90's? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 16:39:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E0773BE93; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:39:51 UTC Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:09:53 -0500 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: WHAT STOMP BOXES ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH? was distortion,f overdrive, fuzz, crunc To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00b401c96cf4$8c7ad510$db237245@enduser1234> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_t98RxnQLZlsOHwM2E/aGQQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:39:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_t98RxnQLZlsOHwM2E/aGQQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >WHAT STOMP BOXES and PEDAL BOARD CONFIGURATIONS >ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH, LATELY? I'm glad to see this thread is still alive... My looping rig is a Boss GT-3 and a Digitech Whammy into two Boss DD-20s. My "traditional" rig is a Boss GT-8 and a Visual Sound Angry Fuzz into a Mesa Boogie Lone Star Special. I will use any of a dozen or more pedals/effects when I'm just messin' 'round, but the above are my go-to rigs. I just did a demo-ish recording that really captures what the GT-8 and Angry Fuzz do for me. Go to http://www.thecoyote.org/listen.cfm and listen to "Mamajuana." It's fruit-juicy and delirious, just like its manesake! Almost every other track on my site (other than the really old stuff from the seventies) was done (at least in part)with one of these two rigs. Other pedals I love, and highly recommend: Danelectro French Toast - astounding octavia! and cheep! cheep! Danelectro Black Coffee Danelectro Black Licorice Alesis ModFX Philtre, MetaVox and BitrMan - many have already raved about these sick little boxes. I can only add +1. Also, check out the Alesis GuitarFX, which has much of the BitrMan's digital and bit-reducing chaos AND TWO! count 'em! TWO! ring modulators. (Also some interesting delays which will go to infinite repeat. AND a tape-like delay that does POSITIVE FEEDBACK!) Digitech EX7 Expression Factory - loads of great fuzzes and distortions, and great "swirl" effects like a Leslie simulator, a Univibe, and the impossible-to-find Digitech Space Station. Max bang per buck. ProCo Rat Visual Sound Jeckyll and Hyde My two pennies for January 2nd... Happy New Year Loopers! Douglas Baldwin, coyote at large coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org "Nikola Tesla is the fifth Beatle." -- Taylor Baldwin, 11 --Boundary_(ID_t98RxnQLZlsOHwM2E/aGQQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
>WHAT STOMP BOXES and PEDAL BOARD CONFIGURATIONS
>ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH, LATELY?
 
I'm glad to see this thread is still alive...
 
My looping rig is a Boss GT-3 and a Digitech Whammy into two Boss DD-20s.
My "traditional" rig is a Boss GT-8 and a Visual Sound Angry Fuzz into a Mesa Boogie Lone Star Special.
I will use any of a dozen or more pedals/effects when I'm just messin' 'round, but the above are my go-to rigs.
 
I just did a demo-ish recording that really captures what the GT-8 and Angry Fuzz do for me.
Go to http://www.thecoyote.org/listen.cfm and listen to "Mamajuana." It's fruit-juicy and delirious, just like its manesake!
 
Almost every other track on my site (other than the really old stuff from the seventies) was done (at least in part)with one of these two rigs.
 
Other pedals I love, and highly recommend:
Danelectro French Toast - astounding octavia! and cheep! cheep!
Danelectro Black Coffee
Danelectro Black Licorice
Alesis ModFX Philtre, MetaVox and BitrMan - many have already raved about these sick little boxes. I can only add +1.
Also, check out the Alesis GuitarFX, which has much of the BitrMan's digital and bit-reducing chaos AND TWO! count 'em! TWO! ring modulators. (Also some interesting delays which will go to infinite repeat. AND a tape-like delay that does POSITIVE FEEDBACK!)
Digitech EX7 Expression Factory - loads of great fuzzes and distortions, and great "swirl" effects like a Leslie simulator, a Univibe, and the impossible-to-find Digitech Space Station. Max bang per buck.
ProCo Rat
Visual Sound Jeckyll and Hyde
 
My two pennies for January 2nd...
Happy New Year Loopers!

Douglas Baldwin, coyote at large
coyotelk@optonline.net
www.TheCoyote.org
 
"Nikola Tesla is the fifth Beatle."
-- Taylor Baldwin, 11
 
 


--Boundary_(ID_t98RxnQLZlsOHwM2E/aGQQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 16:43:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 916103BE88; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ko9hduOvzvKJxES1gABeF1W1ks8UiXl4vIVYAz35vFY=; b=TmAKXOVodEBsdvJHBOkGqF0NcCJxedKk+y44X56blvG0xhGyu3hzD+7jt6X41Iv3IU gGTcEec47A9otzl73mC9iexUw7lkGG899PvT0B7ae2+2lloshkK8oSm+Q89wpI5wpEDH Ikf2Fqa0JSJZOnt7AKje5rPj0ZnymDqyU+Sc4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=kYaQNtoEIpyltozDK2jKxeXEBxaSY21u2JIDIPuFwyOcQOI/6ZdTj0MyUQQucKmLJm KFg1nhD9hd/kgRWGIiL1P5m1ujLK82eLsQDA7wx0HWumoUXWzx7129MEuk4yW28HLF56 5Ct7xrX26BuLGSMWM7t+KQWw0s59OOJf8nSmA= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901020843p299575a2wc0513c8cbd1a3287@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:43:51 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new vid on vimeo In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:43:52 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > http://vimeo.com/2697148 Awesome! per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 16:47:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A12C3BE81; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9335bea95f392d0cd9967bcccd5b4069@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: new vid on vimeo Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:47:35 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Very, very nice. Cool! On Jan 2, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > my first attempt at making a video.... > > http://vimeo.com/2697148 > > 7 minutes to play 36 notes and one pick scrape and all bloody > afternoon to edit the sound and images together and upload to the web! > > hopefully i'll get quicker at it! > > sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 17:05:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E1B33BE88; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f37a59e1-a4e9-4df7-af85-a3bf7e9981d8_" X-Originating-IP: [75.10.213.145] From: samba - To: Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping hedges Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:05:14 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090102163302.4AA5A3BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090102163302.4AA5A3BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2009 17:05:14.0684 (UTC) FILETIME=[47ACDFC0:01C96CFC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:05:16 +0000 (UTC) --_f37a59e1-a4e9-4df7-af85-a3bf7e9981d8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists=2C... since Michael Hedges invented = it." 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= --_f37a59e1-a4e9-4df7-af85-a3bf7e9981d8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 17:10:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E6333BE88; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 307 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:10:15 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Jrjb9+2ebaE2MIU7vsgFAluS0/7fsCLDBBKTWLVUTok=; b=JuftFieX6HLkGhJXrlJf6RSeeu6oHHrasfz1Z69+IUBpR4gxI/yWvXqHtk+yzjqAW1 YbJgBlTBI1Cw78C3B3LaHgHXIbhL276xNCixcUCJZifFY8dGaemfdeUJBq4Fu2KeO6TS 9WHl1rPuuULEHhrYtkASVfgxNvshw05Y93ovI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=M4taC9IknztvwTamYZ2PXnCrWcMNUWu3NfxrU4QkkCX5M3D30GOyE740PJOKXFLrcd LZ+UaaeyjpR35tP0lbbqL4XaBYrilBgsbMkuDeLMK3iBo153BF13UHwQI2Ab/BBDs/fS IwxAdCaDmH6lzjQZzbcp/DClVprNl+C6fuc/8= Message-ID: <5cf51d390901020905w794066abwbb89271ad67b7b6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:05:03 -0500 From: "Thomas Wegmann" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new vid on vimeo In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_161959_5879771.1230915903721" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:10:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_161959_5879771.1230915903721 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Very Nice sounds!weg On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > my first attempt at making a video.... > http://vimeo.com/2697148 > > 7 minutes to play 36 notes and one pick scrape and all bloody afternoon to > edit the sound and images together and upload to the web! > > hopefully i'll get quicker at it! > > sim > -- Greg Wegmann TheWeg@Verizon.net TheWeg@GMail.com ------=_Part_161959_5879771.1230915903721 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Very Nice sounds!
weg

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
my first attempt at making a video....


7 minutes to play 36 notes and one pick scrape and all bloody afternoon to edit the sound and images together and upload to the web!

hopefully i'll get quicker at it!

sim



--
Greg Wegmann

TheWeg@Verizon.net
TheWeg@GMail.com

------=_Part_161959_5879771.1230915903721-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 17:21:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8082F3BE8B; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <4132C5D2525941EBB4E43D330EABBAD0@williamsteed> <739565.75128.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: feedback buster for nylon string Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:20:59 -0800 Message-ID: <7F518DA6EC764E788F012E9B9F1AC316@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <739565.75128.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acls2QaHq72q7sCpRQ21Cf0DLOi22AAJPWfA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Its possible of your name is Lawrence Juber, but seriously. Rick Turner installed an extra piezo pickup in the guitars of Rodrigo y Gabriela. I think it was a Seymour Duncan accelerometer, a small disc shaped transducer. that he mounted inside under the scratch plates for percussive effects, works well with no mic, you would nee someone to install it and perhaps replace the mic with it. This would give you response much like the trans audio stuff has. Happy new Year bro bill -----Original Message----- From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 4:53 AM To: billwalker@baymoon.com Cc: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: feedback buster for nylon string Thanx for the info Bill,i find it amazing that there arent really many professional dual stereo pickup systems for the new two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,this isnt new it has been growing since Michael Hedges invented it,it must be that the market isnt big enough yet.B-band put out a system a few years ago and now it has been discontinued,systems like the trance audio are top class but not very practical for live purposes,if u lose that cable good luck,or if you want to use other guitars thorugh your pedalboard good luck trying to route it through their preamp grr! I havent found any guitar with this internal microphone system that sound good with it,most people end up not using it at all,i wanted it to drum on my flamenco and it works as long as i have the mic signal at about 10% of it and stuffing the soundhole.So you say its possible to change the capsel for better sound results as well? Happy new 2009! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 1/1/09, William Walker wrote: > From: William Walker > Subject: RE: feedback buster for nylon string > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 10:47 AM > Great Trick Krispen, I'll have to try that sometime on > my flamenco guitar.. > Unfortunately for you Luis, The mics goose neck might get > in the way of that > technique as would a feedback buster. You might inquire at > this site, they > are based in San Francisco and are all about classical > guitars. > http://www.gspguitar.com/jsp2/customerService.jsp?pg=main , > I've looked for > a long time for a classical hole sized feedback buster, and > I'm not sure any > one makes one. I assume your controls are on the outside. > My feeling about > internal mics, is the less used the better :) The thing > is, you are using a > tiny inexpensive microphone capsule that is getting much > less current (9 > volts) than a typical studio condenser mic (18-48 volts > typically), it is > also placed inside the sound hole facing the back of the > guitar which in > itself is going to give a boxy "old time radio > broadcast" sound character, > and be more feedback prone. To design a microphone of this > type, they have > to design certain frequency response out of the mic to make > it less feedback > prone, as well, making the sound more low fi, and further > away from the > optimal mic sound, and placement in a controlled studio > environment. I ran > in to this problem with the Duncan Mag mic Pickup that I > use in my Hawaiian > lap guitar. I can only use a little mic to add a bit of > body, otherwise the > guitar will start to feedback, and will be come overly > noisy to handle. Now > if I was Lawrence Juber, and had the $700 dollar custom mic > cabsule > installed in my MagMic like he does, perhaps I'd use it > more. > The other issue is monitoring, if you are using > conventional monitors I > would definitely place them on stands, as any time I use my > flamenco or > steel string with monitors placed on the ground in a > conventional way, I > have problems with bass standing waves, and coupling > feedback. I have been > recently demoing the new Fishman tower linear speaker > design that is lighter > weight and almost a third the price of the Bose system. > Yesterday I was > playing a Guild cutaway nylon string with a simple fishman > matrix pickup. > This is a solid wood guitar made in China, and I sat right > in front of the > speakers as I played and we turned it up enough to fill the > store, but we > were up perhaps half way. NO feedback issues at all. Now I > couldn't > guarantee that for you if you were using an internal mic, > and I'm pretty > certain the fishman lacks any of the Bose search and > destroy feedback > technology, But the linear array design is remarkable for > not producing as > much midrange and low end howling. I will do some tests > with a Martin that > has a prefix premium system and let you know how it fairs. > Otherwise a > little goes along way with internal mics. Just a bit will > give the guitar > more body and potential for beat box tones on different > surfaces, without > increasing handling noise too much. > Happy New Year one and all > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:info@krispenhartung.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:38 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: feedback buster for nylon string > > The best method I have ever used, is to buy a black > balloon, and blow it up > inside the sound hole (not too tight, just enough to seal > off the sound > hole). Tie it off and turn it around so that you don't > see the end. It is > amazing, and costs about 3 cents. :) I learned it from an > old jazzer years > > ago. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Hi Loopers, > > Is there a feedback reducer for nylon strings like the > feedback buster > > that covers the soundhole for steel string guitars? my > recently acquired > > flamenco guitar has the fishman Prefix Premium Blend > with the internal mic > > > and is very sensitive to feedback,so far i havent > found anything that fits > > > the soundhole of a nylon string.However the feedback > buster solved all > > problems on my steel string,great and simple gadget! > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 17:26:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7323D3BE7E; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Per Boysen'" , References: <66f9cc1e0901020632r7c8cde53q6769ab3226b20b6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:26:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901020632r7c8cde53q6769ab3226b20b6@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acls/cPyHG/61nu3SzKHqcBG8xmuXAAAU0Fg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Not to mention cause the makers of flannel shirts to be very wealthy. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 6:32 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? > Rick Walker wrote: > >> We haven't had a defining cultural year in this past decade yet ( like >> '68 in the sixties, '75 in the 70's , '82 in the 80's, etc.) > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:30 PM, andy butler wrote: > was there anything in the 90's? Some guys from Seattle caused every band on the planet to sound the same by the early 90's. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6550 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 17:32:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E4B03BE87; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=l+JMuOnCwrmKuMQIpvSb8hERdaDr+7i3WriSyU7rjiQ=; b=oLNypVpz+nbAx+5KGfkzKhopLTnjZE6JG5lXhjDmANdS4AomX8x87nRGx61V7qhXX4 sSA0bSB7kMUOXTxFW9wIlpGWTDVmJ/w2UwQelw4EWHfkGdDz3gAOVfjzRUtrTPpTqAAu JsI0kyuddcu1FmqPAFYfrVVWJzTRR7us2Z5mA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=lAbQZcY7Vzqf0aOgrLyYc5waHgJU2MxL5uv17RqQBNCsRamNUEnWxp0JRqot9lcCO7 vJU2M495MU50MhMdnjatNwBi8GsEG9/TaTjxx3Rkba10gcKDwD1upnvDr2lMrIlNEoqU 4Fi6RAHorWJag4sQewddU6wbegX5TAb2dtcGE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901020932i5cdd3828iec4f527c1fe933e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:32:08 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0901020632r7c8cde53q6769ab3226b20b6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:32:10 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:26 PM, William Walker wrote: > Not to mention cause the makers of flannel shirts to be very wealthy. > Bill Yes. But I had saved my flannel wear from the sixties when earth was hit by the PREVIOUS FLANNEL LOOP ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 17:44:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73AB43BE88; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5bf1f121-08cf-4e9d-8a38-b480e61dc795_" X-Originating-IP: [75.10.213.145] From: samba - Subject: Moodswinger Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:44:40 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2009 17:44:40.0433 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9C58610:01C96D01] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:44:44 +0000 (UTC) --_5bf1f121-08cf-4e9d-8a38-b480e61dc795_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.oddmusic.com/gallery/om21600.html If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness=2C then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present.Ludwig Wittgenstein EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me= --_5bf1f121-08cf-4e9d-8a38-b480e61dc795_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= --_5bf1f121-08cf-4e9d-8a38-b480e61dc795_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 17:49:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2538E3BE90; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090102174936504.7B0FC1C00092@mwinf2709.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20090102172103.CC7A73BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090102172103.CC7A73BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--791696311 Message-Id: <63bd42261ace122cee96da9a2cafaa6d@laposte.net> From: o.malhomme@laposte.net Subject: OT: FCP/E and Intel Mac question(s) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:49:34 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:49:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--791696311 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Jim, Budget wise you may also consider a Macbook from the previous=20 generation... Still macbook, still performance quite similar to the new one, a=20 firewire connection... Even maybe from the Apple refurb store... Regards And happy new year Olivier Olivier thanks.=A0 THat was also pointed out to me by a non-list member=20= as well.=A0 It's appearing that the Macbook Pro is my best shot which=20 does have fw I believe.=A0 I had thought the Macbook had initially. =A0 Happy new=A0 year =A0 Jim= --Apple-Mail-3--791696311 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lucida GrandeJim, Budget wise you may also consider a Macbook from the previous generation... Still macbook, still performance quite similar to the new one, a firewire connection... Even maybe from the Apple refurb store... Regards And happy new year Olivier Olivier Lucida Grandethanks.=A0 = Lucida GrandeTHat Lucida Grandewas Lucida Grandealso Lucida Grandepointed Lucida Grandeout Lucida Grandeto Lucida Grandeme Lucida Grandeby Lucida Grandea Lucida Grandenon-list Lucida Grandemember Lucida Grandeas Lucida Grandewell.=A0 Lucida GrandeIt's Lucida Grandeappearing Lucida Grandethat Lucida Grandethe Lucida GrandeMacbook Lucida GrandePro Lucida Grandeis Lucida Grandemy Lucida Grandebest Lucida Grandeshot Lucida Grandewhich Lucida Grandedoes Lucida Grandehave Lucida Grandefw Lucida GrandeI Lucida Grandebelieve.=A0 Lucida GrandeI Lucida Grandehad Lucida Grandethought Lucida Grandethe Lucida GrandeMacbook Lucida Grandehad Lucida Grandeinitially. =A0 Happy Lucida Grandenew=A0 = Lucida Grandeyear =A0 Jim= --Apple-Mail-3--791696311-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 17:50:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84DD63BE8B; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20090102163302.54FEB3BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090102163302.54FEB3BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--791632293 Message-Id: <80c55da09de58e8924f8f4310156cfa6@EduardoMartinez.com> From: "Eduardo Martinez - musician, composer, artist" Subject: Lute Hole Company makes feedback-reducing sound hole covers (was Re: Feedback buster for nylon string) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:50:38 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:50:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--791632293 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Luis, Bill, Kris, There is a company that makes sound hole covers (standard sizes as well as custom sizes & shapes), for all/any acoustic guitar: http://www.lutehole.com/ I have only a customer relationship with them. Their covers are laser-etched from various woods, with elegant designs that vary from "some feedback reduction" to "maximum feedback reduction." The cover fits very snugly in the sound hole with small foam pads on its side. There is absolutely no vibration because of the cover itself. Having said this, in my short search I found no other company that makes a sound hole cover to reduce feedback, even though I've seen plastic sound hole covers around. I had a custom hole cover made about a month ago (heavy feedback reduction, design #15), with a small, custom cutout for my preamp volume control knob (just inside the sound hole). My classical guitar has just the one saddle element, with no condenser mic inside, though. Mine works really well as a feedback reducer, as well as a sound dampening device when playing guitar late at night. I highly recommend this sound hole cover. The woods they are made of also provide an aesthetic & beautiful complement to the guitar wood(s). As you probably know, for live playing, Godin makes their nylon & steel-string Duet guitars, which have both types of elements, thus picking up the tapping sounds on the body itself, as well as the string sounds, of course. I've had the Grand Concert Duet nylon-string guitar in the past, & liked it for what it does best, play with little to no feedback in live, amplified playing situations. Its acoustic sound is not exactly what you'll get out of a true full-bodied guitar, but again, it is a good compromise. Godin's Synth Access (SA) guitars are in the same product line, but having just the under-saddle element, do not pick up the body tapping as well, & probably not at all. I have two of their models here, so I may try again & see what comes out. Blessings, Eduardo Martinez musician - composer - artist www.EduardoMartinez.com www.MySpace.com/EduardoMartinezMusic Nashua, NH USA On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > From: "L.Angulo" > > Thanx for the info Bill,i find it amazing that there arent really many > professional dual stereo pickup systems for the new two hand tap > acoustic guitarrists,this isnt new it has been growing since Michael > Hedges invented it,it must be that the market isnt big enough > yet.B-band put out a system a few years ago and now it has been > discontinued,systems like the trance audio are top class but not very > practical for live purposes,if u lose that cable good luck,or if you > want to use other guitars thorugh your pedalboard good luck trying to > route it through their preamp grr! > I havent found any guitar with this internal microphone system that > sound good with it,most people end up not using it at all,i wanted it > to drum on my flamenco and it works as long as i have the mic signal > at about 10% of it and stuffing the soundhole.So you say its possible > to change the capsel for better sound results as well? > Happy new 2009! --Apple-Mail-4--791632293 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Luis, Bill, Kris, There is a company that makes sound hole covers (standard sizes as well as custom sizes & shapes), for all/any acoustic guitar: http://www.lutehole.com/ I have only a customer relationship with them. Their covers are laser-etched from various woods, with elegant designs that vary from "some feedback reduction" to "maximum feedback reduction." The cover fits very snugly in the sound hole with small foam pads on its side. There is absolutely no vibration because of the cover itself. Having said this, in my short search I found no other company that makes a sound hole cover to reduce feedback, even though I've seen plastic sound hole covers around. I had a custom hole cover made about a month ago (heavy feedback reduction, design #15), with a small, custom cutout for my preamp volume control knob (just inside the sound hole). My classical guitar has just the one saddle element, with no condenser mic inside, though. Mine works really well as a feedback reducer, as well as a sound dampening device when playing guitar late at night. I highly recommend this sound hole cover. The woods they are made of also provide an aesthetic & beautiful complement to the guitar wood(s). As you probably know, for live playing, Godin makes their nylon & steel-string Duet guitars, which have both types of elements, thus picking up the tapping sounds on the body itself, as well as the string sounds, of course. I've had the Grand Concert Duet nylon-string guitar in the past, & liked it for what it does best, play with little to no feedback in live, amplified playing situations. Its acoustic sound is not exactly what you'll get out of a true full-bodied guitar, but again, it is a good compromise. Godin's Synth Access (SA) guitars are in the same product line, but having just the under-saddle element, do not pick up the body tapping as well, & probably not at all. I have two of their models here, so I may try again & see what comes out. Blessings, Eduardo Martinez musician - composer - artist www.EduardoMartinez.com www.MySpace.com/EduardoMartinezMusic Nashua, NH USA On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: Helvetica0000,0000,0000From: Helvetica"L.Angulo" < Thanx for the info Bill,i find it amazing that there arent really many professional dual stereo pickup systems for the new two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,this isnt new it has been growing since Michael Hedges invented it,it must be that the market isnt big enough yet.B-band put out a system a few years ago and now it has been discontinued,systems like the trance audio are top class but not very practical for live purposes,if u lose that cable good luck,or if you want to use other guitars thorugh your pedalboard good luck trying to route it through their preamp grr! I havent found any guitar with this internal microphone system that sound good with it,most people end up not using it at all,i wanted it to drum on my flamenco and it works as long as i have the mic signal at about 10% of it and stuffing the soundhole.So you say its possible to change the capsel for better sound results as well? Happy new 2009! --Apple-Mail-4--791632293-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 18:05:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83B693BE7F; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'samba -'" , References: Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:05:23 -0800 Message-ID: <545A7962ABC1412894170E848EBF2D84@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0077_01C96CC1.A3D40980" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcltBAcWB3N34m5uSEya9I+B44+WEgAABsFw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:05:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C96CC1.A3D40980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat everyone to it, at least to the finger tapping part.and that's not talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell, who could mimic a samba batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. This was happening back in the 60's at least. Bill. _____ From: samba - [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:05 AM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping hedges "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,... since Michael Hedges invented it." Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But definately didn't invent tapping. My friend Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to apply tapping to African guitar styles) told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity Theater, in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill) listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the idea from Tuck. But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C96CC1.A3D40980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ok well, as far as I know Tal =  Farlow beat everyone to it,  at least to the finger tapping part.and = that’s not talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell, who could mimic a = samba batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. This was = happening back in the 60’s at least.

Bill.

 

From: samba = - [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 02, = 2009 9:05 AM
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT:feedback = nylon tapping hedges

 

"... two hand tap acoustic =
guitarrists,... since Michael Hedges invented it."

  Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But definately didn't invent =
tapping. My friend 

 Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to apply =
tapping to African guitar styles) 

 told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity Theater,

  in Palo =
Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill) =
listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping

  and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the idea from =
Tuck. 

  But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly worked =
out,esp fro his modern harp guitar.
------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C96CC1.A3D40980-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 18:12:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B062C3BE86; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=BmnS8OZf4WLTbNsaMndyopX0PrA4CcIIGpgJmpj7XZQ=; b=oZ/17shl6PoFKVcRvSQySXGYsKMp52LFAiL7GT3v66VmPzjS16kzYYq5MWzfA867VA O0P/7bn9qay07HSfmSEFrxKVZ5a7GTqy0+bvk76MgIPoRgZOPvtSdO1DtBJc+zpHspTt Vi/kASb67Uqkl9yZrJ1DkJ4Q9RHvoIYfw1+4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=WTcacmxPVy3wYs4CygM89O4yj3REZsntu3VI58SMCplbKdQA+yHSVlw8kijDVQ5F9X O64CXAVPP8/gDndvFV3SXz6rBDY7ZYRJSQ/bIyAbD8EQtcqi1s6q2Vy1SJnVbGLAfTfh KqBrYUpSd1wotdTXkEqOpw2/98sE7CTiBfwZ0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:12:04 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: feedback buster for nylon string In-Reply-To: <739565.75128.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_185868_10426069.1230919924853" References: <4132C5D2525941EBB4E43D330EABBAD0@williamsteed> <739565.75128.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:12:06 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_185868_10426069.1230919924853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I suspect the market is small, and most people I know of who are using dual pickup systems on their acoustics want independent control over each aspect, so you end up with a Sunrise and another manufacturer's internal mic or what not. As I recall, Hedges typically used a Sunrise and a FRAP. Small capsule mics don't tend to have the best tone, and sound best when you're playing quietly, so you end up at cross-purposes if you're trying to use them to amplify loud percussive aspects. It takes a lot of juggling. Seymour Duncan made that mic/magnetic combo pickup a few years ago, but it was like $400 (don't confuse it with the cheaper SD model had the same external appearance), and I believe that's what Juber was using, although I'd heard that he then supplemented it with a very expensive replacement mic capsule. And Fishman has had a Rare Earth model that also has a little gooseneck mic inside. TH On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:52 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > Thanx for the info Bill,i find it amazing that there arent really many > professional dual stereo pickup systems for the new two hand tap acoustic > guitarrists,this isnt new it has been growing since Michael Hedges invented > it,it must be that the market isnt big enough yet.B-band put out a system a > few years ago and now it has been discontinued,systems like the trance audio > are top class but not very practical for live purposes,if u lose that cable > good luck,or if you want to use other guitars thorugh your pedalboard good > luck trying to route it through their preamp grr! > I havent found any guitar with this internal microphone system that sound > good with it,most people end up not using it at all,i wanted it to drum on > my flamenco and it works as long as i have the mic signal at about 10% of it > and stuffing the soundhole.So you say its possible to change the capsel for > better sound results as well? > Happy new 2009! ------=_Part_185868_10426069.1230919924853 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I suspect the market is small, and most people I know of who are using dual pickup systems on their acoustics want independent control over each aspect, so you end up with a Sunrise and another manufacturer's internal mic or what not.  As I recall, Hedges typically used a Sunrise and a FRAP.  Small capsule mics don't tend to have the best tone, and sound best when you're playing quietly, so you end up at cross-purposes if you're trying to use them to amplify loud percussive aspects.  It takes a lot of juggling.

Seymour Duncan made that mic/magnetic combo pickup a few years ago, but it was like $400 (don't confuse it with the cheaper SD model had the same external appearance), and I believe that's what Juber was using, although I'd heard that he then supplemented it with a very expensive replacement mic capsule.  And Fishman has had a Rare Earth model that also has a little gooseneck mic inside.

TH

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:52 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanx for the info Bill,i find it amazing that there arent really many professional dual stereo pickup systems for the new two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,this isnt new it has been growing since Michael Hedges invented it,it must be that the market isnt big enough yet.B-band put out a system a few years ago and now it has been discontinued,systems like the trance audio are top class but not very practical for live purposes,if u lose that cable good luck,or if you want to use other guitars thorugh your pedalboard good luck trying to route it through their preamp grr!
I havent found any guitar with this internal microphone system that sound good with it,most people end up not using it at all,i wanted it to drum on my flamenco and it works as long as i have the mic signal at about 10% of it and stuffing the soundhole.So you say its possible to change the capsel for better sound results as well?
Happy new 2009!
------=_Part_185868_10426069.1230919924853-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 18:13:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28C183BE87; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=hce1RfFoFOP4/izx/+omXXxgnSKIhYpy2NktzTtFkVA=; b=AVfWJKsllcZFZPWdOBYhifc1XX98AXTqymt3Et2gYfvnWzv1wivKlU45ekhlo2RE22 bG19faPjyan7SGRz+vi6JaJDetwN7fg3KjzJnm+0zAzGAyew4jOaORhpsMbYUwRZ92K7 3muvHL8YEUMEZEJkPKmNEsSpH2MIcBEbdMjUo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=AwQHnqqFNlKMTVOKRfWWdVObqD6bdtvy/xXMU8YWOXDsB/ko9MjtgMArVA5vetBh/x N+QyBOLHYKZrFtHQzV1bHlzZQOePt40nHpA/WarfhyRuTh+YVksgENszJ4cdSYZnMz+M tPiB9aHit8M5fejomR3h7v3pQj6svldTxOuKE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:13:28 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: LD Subject: Re: feedback nylon tapping hedges In-Reply-To: <545A7962ABC1412894170E848EBF2D84@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_185886_28224369.1230920008526" References: <545A7962ABC1412894170E848EBF2D84@williamsteed> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:13:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_185886_28224369.1230920008526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tal was also using a homemade octave divider, built into his guitar stool(!). His drummerless stuff is particularly amazing. TH On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM, William Walker wrote: > Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat everyone to it, at least to > the finger tapping part.and that's not talking about the Brazilian guys like > Baden Powell, who could mimic a samba batteria with percussive slaps and > scrapes on his guitar. This was happening back in the 60's at least. > > Bill. > > > ------=_Part_185886_28224369.1230920008526 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tal was also using a homemade octave divider, built into his guitar stool(!).  His drummerless stuff is particularly amazing.

TH

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

Ok well, as far as I know Tal  Farlow beat everyone to it,  at least to the finger tapping part.and that's not talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell, who could mimic a samba batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. This was happening back in the 60's at least.

Bill.

 

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After realizing how much time I actually put into helping people getting their looping stuff together I decided to assemble some of my posts, from lists and fora, online in a more organized way. Then I will be able to link there, or simply cut and paste text, and help more people in less time without being slowed down by having to type in almost the same answer time after time. The first article is up now. It has a listing of "Live Looping Resources Links" and I'd like to ask you for help to make that list longer? Comments can be posted at http://www.perboysen.com/ Thanks! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 19:41:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E7953BE7B; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=lSLOcLFMYtIaiOXL617gn7d3RtpwnOSWM1c3s9RA66xWmm/VdHlgJW/8VD0ZIUmkb8o02vcZGJAbRLobYRQThnFeXKOokrcNXTl6ZrQhQUPN8J1//368vXLO8CLV4mpEkw6LuxApBGktUxFoFoDraerERZJepcY9j2rUQypmMto= ; X-YMail-OSG: gVa7i5IVM1npjNw2QiUqoL8e_9FkSVPpHF_kBFjnI71iZtXtbl1vwgX6xATRxiqUBEaMoqaYdYYxGINfJwD6oHgDIGBtLrgQaasn4KOW2PGoM1wUVQoTV.Wg010XypgxzDwNxk0ZV18ok1.ipVg6Vi6feTdQBLoJJDFRf9WMTVw4sC8AMWkhmBXXPbB5lpv5qOt.iKtKdQLZAjEsUPeViynpPt.VWQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001c01c96d12$2a78d290$0501a8c0@STUDIO1> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <66f9cc1e0901021139s1768e80cya2b636996931b6ce@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New site needs your help! :-) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:41:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:41:57 +0000 (UTC) That's brilliant, Per. Happy New Year to you! Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: "loopers-delight" Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:39 PM Subject: New site needs your help! :-) > Hi, > > I felt so bored with "promoting" that I created a new homepage for > "sharing". After realizing how much time I actually put into helping > people getting their looping stuff together I decided to assemble some > of my posts, from lists and fora, online in a more organized way. Then > I will be able to link there, or simply cut and paste text, and help > more people in less time without being slowed down by having to type > in almost the same answer time after time. > > The first article is up now. It has a listing of "Live Looping > Resources Links" and I'd like to ask you for help to make that list > longer? Comments can be posted at http://www.perboysen.com/ > > Thanks! :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: > 02/01/2009 13:10 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 19:44:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 708AC3BE7B; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ASHHGdfMoWbDeuR6Do4/Jco2E4Y5i3STnYlSeR0i+w1AFZPVdHYP5fpBC+rZiOTQ+eSdw5QUu0Tk4uhcXmvnRye47ajcjU9amLPwkY2a79885ZCJBdrqw+GGPu6MohXS2a8Vn5JlPyCaKOj+1F1BjoPpiOuxhrDCVh1OTcSX1uQ=; X-YMail-OSG: IVZpKxEVM1n827j90O5GweQGqpc750uH17ZXRV0nkocoIkSSORyo7KlQ3jJb0EbM3IiWMcRjhmpZ0AzMF7QbHH3.yyzvq5QfBAQSt8OElTKR7ZQs7X_rf7MNQPgMgcv2jyGiKMvhBSpBXDJyB238BqRjfNZVm__MzNem9tQF6k_0_rBQ8TIUF7CcXV_lV45OTcn1slwkrJXi3c0XSEMitn29oGdj9Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 References: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823980856@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> <66f9cc1e0901020443x48ff18eepad8df12e93a985d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:44:05 -0800 (PST) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: Vinyl... sorry, but the material is suspect To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <832620.98481.qm@web50310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1HuwpD.A.0NE.G6mXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:44:06 +0000 (UTC) LOL! That's awesome! ----- Original Message ---- From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 4:43:42 AM Subject: Re: Vinyl... sorry, but the material is suspect A while back we used Vinyl for scratching in an art performance. Taking an LP with both hands, braking it into smaller pieced and scratching them against each other. I made a flash animation video to document the gig: http://www.boysen.se/df/ Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 19:59:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7D413BE7F; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=SV2mBh2P8YOLM98ck5dwqlGaQQ2hwUkRKuMEEFUIQESZuDb3VJnOBf/3V2pmSpns7AcPwTGgBUodtSdyy+ZWXml7ZVtDmxk57c5eSeCoU3aPY36d5fZV1G6gTIF3cAaIcVib3yX6qHIDs9waeG3iD6ERZz71qpnWt5nmxC75ahg=; X-YMail-OSG: 9s.TODMVM1kZYhBjOy4UDTFJwvb1O5OQR.nIpkg0HwW_P.YVBbvY6yDor4bCtBCXu7qGuFNybBgUElU1a0SSy3Xd_R9QJfo3kn9LtMl5Bm4DptDWySRZzWc7lo6DWShvzOPJDqf3DjKRWH6Q2CTOurdx_QcNlKfRZVi2ryjzBiAEGohkIOQ6KBMQdbzPuIel7Z2.Wwb_ssOY7gWy2tk4rXiiReCjIgyD1gg- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:59:00 -0800 (PST) From: George Ludwig Subject: Fw:Erdem, could you comment on your experience with Aucourant Records? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1506241899-1230926340=:26734" Message-ID: <153917.26734.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:59:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-1506241899-1230926340=:26734 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable During the "What does it mean to release an album?" thread, Bruce Gilman fo= rwarded a link with information on submitting material to Accourant Records= . Since Erdem Halvacioglu is on that record label, I emailed him off-list a= nd asked him if he would be willing to comment on his experience with Accou= rant, and what the label was doing for him that was difficult for him to do= for himself as an independent artist. He replied, and graciously gave perm= ission to forward his reply to this list.=0A=0AHere it is...=0A=0A-George= =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message ----=0AFrom: Erdem Helvacioglu =0ATo: George Ludwig =0ASent: Wednesday, = December 31, 2008 4:22:09 AM=0ASubject: Re: Erdem, could you comment on you= r experience with Aucourant Records?=0A=0A=0Adear george,=0A=0Alet me put i= t this way. by the way, if you want you can forward my email to loopers del= ight.=0A=0Auntil now i have released 3 solo albums in USA. The labels I hav= e worked with are Locustmusic, New Albion and lastly Aucourant. So first of= all you might ask 2 questions. Why did you work with record labels in the = first place? And why did you work labels in USA rather than releasing the a= lbums in Turkey?=0A=0AThe answers to these questions are not that easy. Nea= rly all of the loopers on this mail list=A0mostly live in USA, Canada, Euro= pe, Australia or South America. Do not think there are=A0many contemporary = loopers-electronic artists from Middle East!=0A=0AAlthough I travel quite o= ften to USA ( mostly NY, Boston, San Francisco and LA ) and Europe, at the = moment I live in Istanbul. ( Although this will change in 2010 :) The music= al scene in Istanbul and in Turkey generally do not have many contemporary = composers, experimental electronic artists etc. You would not even be able = to find mainstream jazz musicians and clubs outside of 3 big cities. The sc= ene is mosly based on mainstream turkish pop, turkish folk, arabesk etc. Th= e electracoustic music scene only tries to live within university environme= nt which is pretty hard as you might imagine.=0A=0AAlso there are no goverm= ent support for contemporary music. No founding support or commission suppo= rt. No labels to release your music or support you in a way. On top of that= , the international music scene/ press/ media=A0does not care about the inn= ovative musicians coming from Turkey. They only want to=A0see-hear traditio= nal music, a very exotic and orientalist way of looking at things as expect= ed from Europeans!=0A=0AUnder these circumstances, I made a clear decision = to continue doing what i want to do and try working with labels outside of = Turkey. Without the pr, media etc support of these labels, it would be very= hard for me as a composer coming from Istanbul to make it into the interna= tional scene. Also I have received very important commissions ( Bang on a C= an, new opera commission, electroacoustic commission from france etc )=A0th= anks to=A0the help of these releases.=0A=0AAbout my deal with Aucourant. I = keep all the master, copyrights and publishing rights. And also we share al= l the income coming from sales ( much better than 12% deal with major label= s ) Also they are good with pr, radio etc. At this point, I think it is a g= reat deal especially considering the circumstances I have described above.= =0A=0AThanks and best regards. Happy new year to all!=0A=0AErdem Helvaciogl= u=0Awww.erdemhelvacioglu.com=0Awww.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu=0A* * * * *= * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *=0A"Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucou= rant Records:=0Awww.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23= =0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: George Ludwig =0ATo: erdemhel@t= nn.net =0ASent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:09 AM=0ASubject: Erdem, could = you comment on your experience with Aucourant Records?=0A=0AErdem,=0A=0AI s= tarted this tread on loopers-delight about "What does it mean to release a = record?", and Bruce Gilman supplied the response that I am forwarding. I wa= s hoping that you would consider discussing your experience with Aucourant = Records? =0A=0AI ask because anyone can put their music out there on CD Bab= y and get digital and physical distribution and do a little advertising, an= d I'm wondering what a digital-age label does for an artist beyond this? Wh= at have they done for you that would have been very difficult for an indepe= dent artist to do?=0A=0AIf you are uncomfortable discussing this in public,= I understand. But any insight you can provide would be most welcome!=0A=0A= -George=0A=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message ----=0AFrom: Bruce Gilman =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Monday, Dec= ember 29, 2008 7:27:46 AM=0ASubject: Re: What does it mean to you, to "rele= ase a record"?=0A=0AHello all, =0A=0ABelow is some possibly helpful informa= tion copied from the=A0Aucourant Records site=A0(see=A0Erdem Helvacioglu's = post):=0A=0A"Artists and Repertoire (A&R) -=A0and=A0- Distribution Enquirie= s:=0A=0AIf you are an established or emerging recording artist and/or publi= sher and you wish to have your recordings featured as a part of our expandi= ng catalog, please send a=A0CD(s) of your work(s) for evaluation, together = with full contact information. If we can=A0feature your music we will conta= ct you. Please do not contact us concerning unsolicited materials. For info= rmation on how to become affiliated with Aucourant Records please=A0send an= email to:=A0aandr [at] aucourantrecords.com.=A0Please note that unsolicite= d materials will=A0not=A0be returned.=0A=0AIt is essential to know the kind= of music we are interested in working with.=A0=A0We specialize in electroa= coustic music, ambient music, experimental music, avant-garde contemporary = music, electronica and innovative popular music that is both adventurous an= d cutting-edge.=A0 If you think your work fits with our vision you are stro= ngly encouraged to submit materials for review..=0A=0APLEASE NOTE:=A0We=A0D= O NOT=A0accept unsolicited materials as digital files via email, such as mp= 3 files. We are able to work=A0only=A0with products professionally packaged= and fully retail ready."=0A=0A=0AB.G.=0A=0A=0AOn Dec 29, 2008, at 3:41 AM,= Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:=0A=0AHi to all,=0A=0AI am very happy to tell you = that my new album "Wounded Breath" has been released in USA by Aucourant Re= cords!=0A=0AHere is the link for the album page :=0A=0Ahttp://www.aucourant= records.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23=0A=0AHere you can listen to mp= 3s of all the tracks on the album.=0A=0AThe album includes 5 of my prizewin= ning electroacoustic pieces which I have performed at prestigious contempor= ary festivals all around the world along with composers such as Paul Lansky= , Morton Subotnick etc.=0A=0AThe album will be on amazon, itunes, emusic in= a=A0 few weeks. If you are interested, it is cheaper to buy directly from = the=A0label by the way.=0A=0AThanks a lot and best regards. Hope you will e= njoy the music!=0A=0AErdem Helvacioglu=0Awww.erdemhelvacioglu.com=0Awww.mys= pace.com/erdemhelvacioglu=0A* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *=0A"Woun= ded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:=0Awww.aucourantrecords.c= om/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23=0A=0A=0A --0-1506241899-1230926340=:26734 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
During the "What does it mean to release an album?" thread, Bruce Gilman forwarded a link with information on submitting material to Accourant Records. Since Erdem Halvacioglu is on that record label, I emailed him off-list and asked him if he would be willing to comment on his experience with Accourant, and what the label was doing for him that was difficult for him to do for himself as an independent artist. He replied, and graciously gave permission to forward his reply to this list.
 
Here it is...
 
-George

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net>
To: George Ludwig <sfmissionman@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:22:09 AM
Subject: Re: Erdem, could you comment on your experience with Aucourant Records?

dear george,
 
let me put it this way. by the way, if you want you can forward my email to loopers delight.
 
until now i have released 3 solo albums in USA. The labels I have worked with are Locustmusic, New Albion and lastly Aucourant. So first of all you might ask 2 questions. Why did you work with record labels in the first place? And why did you work labels in USA rather than releasing the albums in Turkey?
 
The answers to these questions are not that easy. Nearly all of the loopers on this mail list mostly live in USA, Canada, Europe, Australia or South America. Do not think there are many contemporary loopers-electronic artists from Middle East!
 
Although I travel quite often to USA ( mostly NY, Boston, San Francisco and LA ) and Europe, at the moment I live in Istanbul. ( Although this will change in 2010 :) The musical scene in Istanbul and in Turkey generally do not have many contemporary composers, experimental electronic artists etc. You would not even be able to find mainstream jazz musicians and clubs outside of 3 big cities. The scene is mosly based on mainstream turkish pop, turkish folk, arabesk etc. The electracoustic music scene only tries to live within university environment which is pretty hard as you might imagine.
 
Also there are no goverment support for contemporary music. No founding support or commission support. No labels to release your music or support you in a way. On top of that, the international music scene/ press/ media does not care about the innovative musicians coming from Turkey. They only want to see-hear traditional music, a very exotic and orientalist way of looking at things as expected from Europeans!
 
Under these circumstances, I made a clear decision to continue doing what i want to do and try working with labels outside of Turkey. Without the pr, media etc support of these labels, it would be very hard for me as a composer coming from Istanbul to make it into the international scene. Also I have received very important commissions ( Bang on a Can, new opera commission, electroacoustic commission from france etc ) thanks to the help of these releases.
 
About my deal with Aucourant. I keep all the master, copyrights and publishing rights. And also we share all the income coming from sales ( much better than 12% deal with major labels ) Also they are good with pr, radio etc. At this point, I think it is a great deal especially considering the circumstances I have described above.
 
Thanks and best regards. Happy new year to all!
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:09 AM
Subject: Erdem, could you comment on your experience with Aucourant Records?

Erdem,
 
I started this tread on loopers-delight about "What does it mean to release a record?", and Bruce Gilman supplied the response that I am forwarding. I was hoping that you would consider discussing your experience with Aucourant Records?
 
I ask because anyone can put their music out there on CD Baby and get digital and physical distribution and do a little advertising, and I'm wondering what a digital-age label does for an artist beyond this? What have they done for you that would have been very difficult for an indepedent artist to do?
If you are uncomfortable discussing this in public, I understand. But any insight you can provide would be most welcome!
 
-George

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Bruce Gilman <cuica@interworld.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:27:46 AM
Subject: Re: What does it mean to you, to "release a record"?

Hello all,

Below is some possibly helpful information copied from the Aucourant Records site (see Erdem Helvacioglu's post):

"Artists and Repertoire (A&R) - and - Distribution Enquiries:

If you are an established or emerging recording artist and/or publisher and you wish to have your recordings featured as a part of our expanding catalog, please send a CD(s) of your work(s) for evaluation, together with full contact information. If we can feature your music we will contact you. Please do not contact us concerning unsolicited materials. For information on how to become affiliated with Aucourant Records please send an email to: aandr [at] aucourantrecords.com. Please note that unsolicited materials will not be returned.

It is essential to know the kind of music we are interested in working with.  We specialize in electroacoustic music, ambient music, experimental music, avant-garde contemporary music, electronica and innovative popular music that is both adventurous and cutting-edge.  If you think your work fits with our vision you are strongly encouraged to submit materials for review..

PLEASE NOTE: We DO NOT accept unsolicited materials as digital files via email, such as mp3 files. We are able to work only with products professionally packaged and fully retail ready."


B.G.
On Dec 29, 2008, at 3:41 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:

Hi to all,
 
I am very happy to tell you that my new album "Wounded Breath" has been released in USA by Aucourant Records!
 
Here is the link for the album page :
 
 
Here you can listen to mp3s of all the tracks on the album.
 
The album includes 5 of my prizewinning electroacoustic pieces which I have performed at prestigious contemporary festivals all around the world along with composers such as Paul Lansky, Morton Subotnick etc.
 
The album will be on amazon, itunes, emusic in a  few weeks. If you are interested, it is cheaper to buy directly from the label by the way.
 
Thanks a lot and best regards. Hope you will enjoy the music!
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23



--0-1506241899-1230926340=:26734-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 20:08:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 468E03BE80; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6CD33A19-DA4A-47B5-8B9F-4484D10627DC@kliklak.net> From: jayrope LD To: loopers delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: midi footpedal recommendation Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:08:00 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:08:07 +0000 (UTC) i am looking for a cheap and simple multiple midi footpedal with four switches sending four different midi cc on/offs. the standard behringer seems to be way too big for my needs, would anyone have a recommendation for something much less configurable and much cheaper? i built a software looper in max/msp called "laser dave" (details later), mainly to be controlled by a wii remote, nevertheless three or four simple midi footswitch options wouldn't hurt to keep rudimentary operating when playing an instrument. any hints appreciated. and health and cleverness in 2009 to all of you. - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 20:24:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 849233BE7E; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3f090494-ad9b-45b5-9147-101cf8bfcaf6_" X-Originating-IP: [67.169.176.84] From: samba - To: , Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:24:16 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <545A7962ABC1412894170E848EBF2D84@williamsteed> References: <545A7962ABC1412894170E848EBF2D84@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2009 20:24:17.0164 (UTC) FILETIME=[15F2B4C0:01C96D18] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:24:18 +0000 (UTC) --_3f090494-ad9b-45b5-9147-101cf8bfcaf6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think Tuck was the originator=2Cdidn't mean to suggest it=2Cjust= that Hedges=2C wasn't. He was great though.He was a fan of my old band=2Cs= o I was very slightly acquainted=2Cgreat guy too. I thought of mentioning F= arlow=2Cbut he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or riffs so much as use = it for articulating chords=2Cas far as I can tell.I never heard him live.I = know he had huge hands could reach insane voicings=2Cand would do stuff li= ke strum a chord fingered high up the neck=2Cthen tap a low position bass = note with the right hand 1st finger while holding the chord. Or strum a ch= ord with the little finger while holding a bass note with the 1st .Yeah the= great Baden Powell=2Cand other Brasileiros =2Clike the Flamencos did all s= orts of percussive tapping. If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness=2C then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present.Ludwig Wittgenstein Ok well=2C as far as I know Tal Farlow beat everyone to it=2C at least to the finger tapping part.and that=92s not talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell=2C who could mimic a sam= ba batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. This was happenin= g back in the 60=92s at least. Bill. =20 From: samba - [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday=2C January 02=2C 2009 9:05 AM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping hedges =20 "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists=2C... since Michael Hedges invented = it." Heges was brilliant=2Cinspiring etc. But definately didn't invent tapping= . My friend=20 Paul Prince=2C(an excellent guitarist=2Cprolly the first to apply tapping = to African guitar styles)=20 told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity Theater=2C in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill) listening to Tuck A= ndreas=2Cwho was tapping and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the idea from Tuck.=20 But maybe you meat Hedges picku system=2Cwhich wa highly worked out=2Cesp= fro his modern harp guitar.= --_3f090494-ad9b-45b5-9147-101cf8bfcaf6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B =3B I don't think Tuck was the originator=2Cdidn't mean to sug= gest it=2Cjust that Hedges=2C wasn't. He was great though.He was a fan of m= y old band=2Cso I was very slightly acquainted=2Cgreat guy too. I thought o= f mentioning Farlow=2Cbut he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or riffs s= o much as use it for articulating chords=2Cas far as I can tell.I never hea= rd him live.I know he had huge hands =3B could reach insane voicings=2C= and would do stuff like strum a chord fingered high =3B up the neck=2Ct= hen tap a low position bass note with the right hand 1st finger while holdi= ng the chord. Or =3B strum a chord with the little finger while holding= a bass note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden Powell=2Cand other Brasilei= ros =2Clike the Flamencos did all sorts of percussive tapping.







If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness=2C then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present.

Ludwig Wittgenstein









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From: samba - [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday=2C January = 02=2C 2009 9:05 AM
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT:feedback nyl= on tapping hedges

 =3B

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 =3B Heges was brilliant=2Cinspiring etc. But definate=
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 =3B in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill=
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 =3B and Hedges sa=
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 =3B But maybe you =
meat Hedges picku system=2Cwhich wa highly worked out=2Cesp fro his modern =
harp guitar.
= --_3f090494-ad9b-45b5-9147-101cf8bfcaf6_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 20:32:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A6493BE7E; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823980856@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> References: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823980856@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--781971830 Message-Id: <84238F9D-17EC-4B3F-BC2F-8A0E3333EDF7@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: OT: Re: Vinyl... sorry, but the material is suspect /etc.... Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:31:38 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:32:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--781971830 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Dean, Hal wrote: > Lest someone leap immediately to the conclusion that what I'm about > to say is too simple, I'll preface it by saying that any holistic > analysis of the environmental effects of our choices is inevitably > very complex and ultimately requires multiple qualifications and > copious research. That out of the way... just about the entire > life cycle of polyvinyl chloride is really injurious to the planet > and its living creatures. > > If you don't know what I mean, see the film Blue Vinyl. > > I too love LPs as physical objects, but much of what we've been > doing needs to change.On balance, sans the copious research > admittedy, I have concluded that I cannot support the resurgence of > vinyl LPs. > > Hal Dean In all due respect, what about the computer used to transmit the above message? And, when the time comes that you feel that it is somehow necessary, will you purchase another, newer computer without these same concerns? What all goes into the R&D and the manufacture of a single average computer are directly, (along w/ indirectly) connected to so many different and various hideous chemicals, and / or chemical byproducts that, if you knew everything about it, it'd make your head spin. Rather than be against any kind of comeback with records, I would first advocate for elimination of the manufacturing of just about all of the mostly worthless crap plastic "products" that are found just about everywhere, especially in the more notorious big box stores like Wal-Mart, Target, etc, and which are the prime candidates that will eventually be dumped in a landfill somewhere in the future, and often much sooner, than much later. (And do not even think that once things end up in landfills, that that is the "end" of their "journey". Quite the contrary...) At least with records, particularly those that are being made today, many, or even most, will likely have a *far* longer "shelf life" (as on someone's shelves for records, etc) as opposed to a very large % of just about anything else that has been manufactured involving hideous things we'd rather not think about, but are still there nonetheless, and will remain so, and likely indefinitely. And yes, with the manufacture of records, there is still that support for polyvinyl chloride production. But, I guarantee ya that if records were outlawed tomorrow, there would *still* be a replacement market of some kind(s) found for the same amount of polyvinyl chloride production. This is how the big, major corps(es) operate and demand returns on their investments, and for their stockholders. My suggestion is for everyone individually to make their own personal decisions for how little (or sadly, how big) of a detrimental foot print they choose to make on Big Mama Earth. As for me, I will choose to still purchase records (and store them for decades at least), while at the same time, also choosing NOT to buy, and to support *as little* of any other crap that I reasonably can, which is how I have been living for most of my Life, anyway. It really is not that "hard" to do so. Ya just have to *really want to* and to be willing to make certain "sacrifices", etc. It gets easier and easier to do so, once put into regular practice... Also, at least with records, the polyvinyl chloride production that is there anyway is being used to store something of REAL and lasting VALUE, which is MUSIC, as opposed to the production of potentially countless billions of other items of ultimately worthless, and / or disposable crap. Give me records ANY time, over that other junk! And, what about many of the same scary things and byproducts that went into the R&D and manufacture of those beloved synthesizers that so many of us use and cherish (like myself) and also all of the wonderful looping devices, both past and present (and future...) ? Ooops...! :-) I suspect that possibly those same moral concerns will not be any kind of real issue when someone wants purchase a new and kool piece of gear, regardless of the vile chemical trails and foot prints that were left in the creation and manufacture of such things, and also cell phones, ipods, previously used CRT monitors and TVs, and a zillion other things heading to landfills eventually. Ooops, again...! We are ALL guilty of at least something! :-) Just try to minimize it as much as possible. PS- Also, thanx for the tip on the "Blue Vinyl" film, Hal. I had never heard of it and just put a reserve for the next available copy at my local library which has it in it's catalogue. Looks very intriguing. There is, and always should be, an endless number of things to know and to learn about... PPS- Great flash animation, Per! Hilarious! Thanx! I passed it onto other interested folks. Keep up the Great Work! All the best, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-1--781971830 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Dean, Hal = wrote:

Lest someone leap = immediately to the conclusion that what I'm about to say is too simple, = I'll preface it by saying that any holistic analysis of the = environmental effects of our choices is inevitably very complex and = ultimately requires multiple=A0qualifications and copious research.=A0 = That out of the way... just about = the entire life cycle of polyvinyl chloride is really injurious to the = planet=A0and its=A0living creatures.
=A0
If you don't=A0 know what I mean, see the film = Blue Vinyl.
=A0
I too love LPs as physical objects, but much of what we've = been doing needs to change.On balance, sans the copious research = admittedy, I have concluded that I cannot support the resurgence of = vinyl LPs.
=A0
Hal Dean

In all = due respect, what about the computer used to transmit the above message? = =A0And, when the time comes that you feel that it is somehow = necessary,=A0
will you purchase another, newer computer = without these same concerns?

What all goes = into the R&D and the manufacture of a single average computer are = directly, (along w/ indirectly) connected to so many different and = various hideous chemicals,=A0
and / or chemical byproducts = that, if you knew everything about it, it'd make your head spin. Rather = than be against any kind of comeback with records, I would first = advocate for elimination of the manufacturing of just about all of the = mostly worthless crap plastic "products" that are found just about = everywhere, especially in the more notorious big box
stores = like Wal-Mart, Target, etc, and which are the prime candidates that will = eventually be dumped in a landfill somewhere in the future, and often = much sooner, than much later.

(And do not even think = that once things end up in landfills, that that is the "end" of their = "journey". Quite the contrary...)

At least with = records, particularly those that are being made today, many, or even = most, will likely have a *far* longer "shelf life"=A0(as on someone's = shelves for records, etc)=A0
as opposed to a very large % of = just about anything else that has been manufactured involving hideous = things we'd rather not think about, but are still there nonetheless, and = will remain so, and likely indefinitely. =A0And yes, with the = manufacture of records, there is still that support for polyvinyl = chloride production. But, I guarantee ya that if records were outlawed = tomorrow, there would *still* be a replacement market of some kind(s) = found for the same amount of=A0polyvinyl chloride production. This is = how the big, major corps(es) operate and demand returns on their = investments, and for their stockholders. =A0My suggestion is for = everyone=A0individually=A0to make their own personal decisions for how = little=A0
(or sadly, how big) of a detrimental foot print they = choose to make on Big Mama Earth. As for me, I will choose to still = purchase records =A0(and store them for decades at = least),=A0
while at the same time, also choosing NOT to=A0buy, = and to support *as little* of any other crap that I reasonably can, = which is how I have been living for most of my Life, anyway. = =A0
It really is not that "hard" to do so. Ya just have to = *really want to* and to be willing to make certain "sacrifices", etc. It = gets easier and easier to do so, once put into regular = practice...

Also, at least with records, = the=A0polyvinyl chloride production that is there anyway is being used = to store something of REAL and lasting VALUE, which is MUSIC, as opposed = to the production of=A0potentially countless billions of other items of = ultimately worthless, and / or disposable =A0crap. Give me records ANY = time, over that other junk!=A0

And, what = about many of the same scary things and byproducts that went into the = R&D and manufacture of those beloved synthesizers that so many of us = use and cherish
(like myself)=A0and also all of the wonderful = looping devices, both past and present (and future...) ? =A0Ooops...! = =A0:-)=A0

I suspect =A0that possibly those same = moral concerns will not be any kind of real issue when someone wants = purchase=A0a new and kool piece of gear, regardless of the vile chemical = trails and foot prints that were left in the creation and manufacture of = such things,=A0and also cell phones, ipods, previously used CRT monitors = and TVs, and a zillion other things heading to landfills eventually. = =A0=A0Ooops, again...! =A0 We are ALL guilty of at least something! :-) = =A0 Just try to minimize it as much as = possible.=A0

PS- Also, thanx for the tip = on the "Blue Vinyl" film, Hal. I had never heard of it and just put a = reserve for the next available copy at my local library which has it in = it's catalogue.
Looks very intriguing. There is, and always = should be, an endless number of things to know and to learn = about...

PPS- Great flash animation, Per! = =A0Hilarious! =A0Thanx! =A0I passed it onto other interested folks. = =A0Keep up the Great Work!

All = the best,
Rev = Fever

=
= --Apple-Mail-1--781971830-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jan 2 23:42:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC8EE3BE7F; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YwNCFg2zOYVzkopKuOeEJjEa3kXc97ZFLT539NYdDN7q8cVmdVpGAIJu8ly14sMMZxaN21GieDtxyYDf/kVVseSIbvO1KViplnoijF2r/WnzsBLoKzR3GlRKWsvfssrC7rNY7qpmiPMYBkBlWRW+DTULjzDrmGUYOaU0tXsw+UE=; X-YMail-OSG: XL87LF8VM1no_c6fyUPAkvr6C78cQ3ZnkM18TAXEeYMQeHEpmE30ggnpi97sLqDnDXJs9d94wHmFKM8MPcsZ__n.XxRJk0RMR5vLPDw.RuWMZq3HmTUi66o81dN86jI.2o_ZaQCtXGbZQjSAvyg5wSseOFdFOHZ1COpIHNBD35E1QZSZ6v6EIghr5Ttd1g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:42:13 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <675469.9390.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:42:14 +0000 (UTC) i really dont know how to describe that style,you guys know better than i d= o about the true inventor,off course we could even go back to the blues and= there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean that slap harmonics over = a harmonic node and the use of right hand hammer-ons with bass notes and th= e left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, percussive slapping on the guitar= body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt invent that then it was P= reston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i guess he was given credit = for that.In any case because of that style i believe there were few pickup = systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance audio),but i see a lot of of = cats now that do that sort of style having to get special custom made syste= ms for them,so the market must still be too small... like looping was!! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - wrote: > From: samba - > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > To: billwalker@baymoon.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM > I don't think Tuck was the originator,didn't mean to > suggest it,just that Hedges, wasn't. He was great > though.He was a fan of my old band,so I was very slightly > acquainted,great guy too. I thought of mentioning Farlow,but > he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or riffs so much > as use it for articulating chords,as far as I can tell.I > never heard him live.I know he had huge hands could reach > insane voicings,and would do stuff like strum a chord > fingered high up the neck,then tap a low position bass note > with the right hand 1st finger while holding the chord. Or=20 > strum a chord with the little finger while holding a bass > note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden Powell,and other > Brasileiros ,like the Flamencos did all sorts of percussive > tapping. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > If > we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but > timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live > in the > present.Ludwig Wittgenstein >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat > everyone to it, at least to the finger tapping part.and > that=E2=80=99s not > talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell, who > could mimic a samba > batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. > This was happening > back in the 60=E2=80=99s at least. >=20 > Bill. >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > From: samba - > [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com]=20 >=20 > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 > 9:05 AM >=20 > To: > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping > hedges >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,... since > Michael Hedges invented it." >=20 > Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But definately > didn't invent tapping. My friend=20 >=20 > Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to > apply tapping to African guitar styles)=20 >=20 > told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity > Theater, >=20 > in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill) > listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping >=20 > and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the > idea from Tuck.=20 >=20 > But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly > worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar. =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 00:12:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48CF43BE7E; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=CmOXpXoK/QlvLVvNcE1ddQwL/NKUYTPCuQq6sNrHhv0=; b=Q1hEf38i2wkb1KBDunXo+m71OOwygsjYraYl/H42s4iXH7Qw6CZHoM7wPa4EWUwj8J zU1/pCT2dSPJlqn3RC2NE2sj4Eu0+DJ/TsCdcRl9/pCx85Sj4SOIw8LUiumlIe4q9f9Z AdTqsZVs9RC5Ao9ZZcVjT040FRUxln2XELWrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WaLpLps3WOkjNZ+L2SSUIDg9lcIkvmgUHfmn9LaBrowqGRzZEtK5FeBFLa2AI5eCCa YrMNRv28aCnShixG+wEYpcCyXj/Yr3kNhl6DMWZdMLxYvso14/P6ecRD8mHKh6RMS5DC NGaSC/2sx+00ef7hHBB3tKpmOj0rAVgXsmKa4= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901021612k7bf55043wcbc1151639722388@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 01:12:50 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New site needs your help! :-) In-Reply-To: <654037.28675.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0901021139s1768e80cya2b636996931b6ce@mail.gmail.com> <654037.28675.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:12:52 +0000 (UTC) WordPress, Luis! It should meet all your mentioned requirements. Checi it out, free to download at http://wordpress.com/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:06 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > Per, > great site! > Just curious what program are u using to do the websites? i am looking for something practical that already contains blogs links,etc.templates sort of speak,aimed for artists or musicians,which can be updated from everywhere without having to install a program,i did my website with macromedia but i hate the program and havin gto install it just to update my web! > thanx for the info > cheers > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 03:10:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 089153BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 03:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:10:21 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <29dD5D.A.wdD.dctXJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 03:10:21 +0000 (UTC) I can think of one very significant thing that the 90's and perhaps this decade has produced in world musical culture: The rise of the DJ as Rock Star or Cultural Icon. It used to be that someone would play music between DJs and nowadays I see more and more shows where you see bands opening for prominent DJs. In the Goth/Industrial Scene that I frequent , recreationally, the DJ has surplanted the live musician as the dominant force. Nowadays if you want to play live in these scenes you practically have to beg the DJs , who now completely control the scenes to let you play and feel grateful if they will let you play (and for now money). We don't need to go to the 'are DJs musicians' argument that we've had multiple times on this list' There are obviously DJs who are wonderful musicians and go on to careers as composers and producers. I just think that it's telling that the vast majority of DJs that I encounter are not being particularly creative (with the exception of choice of sound and beatmatching for regularities sake) and that this has completely dominated a lot of music on the planet. It's also kind of amazing to me that the birth of the world wide web/internet and the proliferation of inexpensive methods to produce high quality music and there existence for the last 13 years seems to have not produced very much notable or long lasting music. I know that wonderful music has been created (and I think of our community as being really stellar in the production of that music) but it's interesting that none of it seems to be having very much impact on the culture at large. Everywhere I go, I hear oldies music playing...............every single bar I frequent, every single restaurant. In my life, I"ve never heard so much 'nostalgia' dominating our culture. Of course the democratization of media means that the paradigms will shift...............think the entire recent thread on how to release a digital release in this day and age. Ironically, I feel connected to people all over the earth who are really creative and active in their own artistry and the communalism of our own scene but at the same time, I'm seeing less and less kids taking music lessons. All of this could be the rant of a bitter old professional musician who's lifestyle is ending after 30 years of hard work, but I don't feel bitter for some reason. It's the most exciting time to ever be a musician on some fronts............certainly in terms of the kind of information that we have................................look at this list...............I haven't had to go out and buy every distortion box on the planet: I"ve just had to ask questions and then benefit from the collective wisdom of this list to make my own choices with limited budget to spend. I'm just musing, 'tis all!!!!! Looking forward to this year, creatively. I think we are going to do amazing stuff.................who knows? Maybe we'll define the decade when history looks back on us. We certainly have all the tools we need to do so. Now we have to produce. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 10:13:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3209D3BE72; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=dudWr01OEljVkrx/9dU6E28qorrb2J3cOkzFGA4p6J8=; b=LSwjrES5JONQYylA+f/UTWQPazdxY/YSAY+qf99pseWlWlxKd62w4AIaOXSmUCn1qy xUA3Tya+ebW+msqnKa7tx5FDqohdnNBDSjIl/cgAvZbb5R99uM7FYHAk5h7CLMTTo/7Q x/zOf5XnUxnRcHIRxv0XGt357H2pglNMCSV6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=QnJUMB+FY0nq4KAyb2rJJCZHLgNdbCtPo6jgtTv+Kk1yx8OoCo7A703C2aH1SZbRVZ tVBnhfq0+147oQiS0YskNQgx31SjgZRf6+7bGviciiHr95SOeeF+69r3RVg9ug+lN02+ iEdSPXAZH/qTnvyuJ7jYsqKirSsvjoxYwb4e0= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:07:28 -0200 References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Great post. Thanks for your words Rick. El 03/01/2009, a las 01:10, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > I can think of one very significant thing that the 90's and perhaps =20= > this decade > has produced in world musical culture: > > The rise of the DJ as Rock Star or Cultural Icon. > > It used to be that someone would play music between DJs and nowadays =20= > I see more > and more shows where you see bands opening for prominent DJs. > > In the Goth/Industrial Scene that I frequent , recreationally, the =20= > DJ has surplanted the > live musician as the dominant force. Nowadays if you want to =20 > play live in these > scenes you practically have to beg the DJs , who now completely =20 > control the scenes > to let you play and feel grateful if they will let you play (and for =20= > now money). > > We don't need to go to the 'are DJs musicians' argument that we've =20 > had multiple times on this list' > There are obviously DJs who are wonderful musicians and go on to =20 > careers as composers and producers. > I just think that it's telling that the vast majority of DJs that I =20= > encounter are not being particularly creative > (with the exception of choice of sound and beatmatching for =20 > regularities sake) and that this > has completely dominated a lot of music on the planet. > > > > It's also kind of amazing to me that > the birth of the world wide web/internet and the proliferation of > inexpensive methods to produce high quality music and there existence > for the last 13 years seems to have not produced very much > notable or long lasting music. > > I know that wonderful music has been created (and I think of our =20 > community as being > really stellar in the production of that music) but it's =20 > interesting that none of it seems > to be having very much impact on the culture at large. > > Everywhere I go, I hear oldies music playing...............every =20 > single bar I frequent, every single > restaurant. > > In my life, I"ve never heard so much 'nostalgia' dominating our =20 > culture. > > Of course the democratization of media means that the paradigms will =20= > shift...............think the entire > recent thread on how to release a digital release in this day and age. > > Ironically, I feel connected to people all over the earth who are =20= > really creative and active in their own artistry > and the communalism of our own scene but at the same time, I'm =20 > seeing less and less kids taking music > lessons. > > All of this could be the rant of a bitter old professional musician =20= > who's lifestyle is ending after 30 years of hard work, > but I don't feel bitter for some reason. > It's the most exciting time to ever be a musician on some =20 > fronts............certainly in terms of the kind of information that =20= > we > have................................look at this =20 > list...............I haven't had to go out and buy every distortion =20= > box on the planet: > I"ve just had to ask questions and then benefit from the collective =20= > wisdom of this list to make my own choices > with limited budget to spend. > > I'm just musing, 'tis all!!!!! > > Looking forward to this year, creatively. I think we are going to =20 > do amazing stuff.................who knows? > Maybe we'll define the decade when history looks back on us. We =20= > certainly have all the tools we need to do so. > Now we have to produce. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 10:16:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9509B3BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2rcyEkrMxYLtBtDFpk3GFqM+4Hh6zcQX+xfvhcwUQJzeKm/Zx/zOivoSHndDGHgx8TkBTxRp/TBmoe1rIIMq0NgEcqSvGQNXlQf1Z2uaje2Jt2js+tgOgLIxWpdMN9nti47f89E4S+eFpVqHb2acsIcyoPlKsQ7HAw/wefuUS/k=; X-YMail-OSG: gPLIxOgVM1kuvdbubUyxMj6xdvdGmE5w5_oVWnTsHs6R2KtfJG..qHgakRO7n9WZ03fTbeST0v6Czc4phd.OtbkjZEl6CBSIWZILRjh2VGnikgN3bm4EdKSl8.TEiReVo.nG7_x3bsrBRj.cgcxuKOqWTNl.JNKqWqxkgLURDn7jPDyFvX6XnSTXFaqq3xeA2ubv3RN.SZLQAfeil0gnfqj4FuGn0Ds- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:16:08 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Reyn_vs=2E_Bj=F6rk?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <298845.39430.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:16:10 +0000 (UTC) what is that pedalboard with flashing lights? what id find difficult from t= his type of looping is the mic bleeding danger and setting up the footcontr= ollers to trigger the looper functions from all angles,is he daisy chaining= them? dont see a behringer FCB1010 unthinkable! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Nick wrote: > From: Nick > Subject: Re: Reyn vs. Bj=F6rk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 2:49 PM > amazing! >=20 > On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Michael Peters > wrote: > > check out Reyn Ouwehand's livelooping version of a > Bj=F6rk tune > > http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWKcw8XtYPK4&fmt=3D18 > > > > -m > > > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 10:46:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2100B3BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6co8WQyMcwP5qEXokQdtPGdakz3trzzWVo0yIDdrYvQ=; b=KyQZwiRMe8hvtPf9EsZipvAIIAh6iSQuKtbXQDVt3OgEClIOAddPRnHiDyG8Yrt3fx 5WvhoS19tyZTNPANLnuHe9eLH1AksYMiAui2p0OlqYgpYSt8ze5frQRATUVnXrrWaM8m 8jA9wxYIodN9x6HrbvMNjsKy8vxxXxdOiwwEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=nWriTcMP2JNAVqXZC2dE7Ob+94v72e+vU+YdTSxCKk+FPsU+wKi5rhhOE6Pxrcl9S1 gV6TwEdrxl2D9XhC8RBw4urZMPiAFRvCHjOpDiF/PhzqXPj1Y5kq+qJzuaEQAyStpWdR QkBbZKVvtiLZK/UFGIt/Kc7gXyXNqRfkWzSVY= Message-ID: <9e0440a60901030241n44d25a98sa33b7306c872a4a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 05:41:21 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_92184_14273726.1230979281718" References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:46:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_92184_14273726.1230979281718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline good musing Rick, happy new year to you and Chris. I've thought many a tim= e re your latter point about how easily it is these days to create with the technology being so available. During the 80's when I was just out of school and was lucky enough to get a job at a television station, it was just about the only way to have involvement with 'quality' audio and video equipment yet things were dawning as we've now experienced. Just about everything I was involved in that period is now possible on the desktop and that continues to amaze me. In addition to that yes the connection of the Internet that has allowed me to know you, to collaborate with one musician living in Mexico and two others in Sweden and to have had interactions with othe musicians all around the globe through the CyberJams is continually inspiring and amazing to me. Re the content for the masses despite the creation of so much 'new' music I think that despite a rise in the masses appreciation and desire for 'quality' sound their patience to listen beyond 3 minutes or to take the time to 'listen' as opposed to be 'entertained' fo= r 3 minutes is why one hears the hits of the 70's in muzak than what we prefe= r to believe is more artfully challenging created material indicative of our interests. Good new year to all and may the creations of each of you 'ring the changes= ' about the globe... jim On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > Great post. > > Thanks for your words Rick. > > El 03/01/2009, a las 01:10, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > > > I can think of one very significant thing that the 90's and perhaps this >> decade >> has produced in world musical culture: >> >> The rise of the DJ as Rock Star or Cultural Icon. >> >> It used to be that someone would play music between DJs and nowadays I s= ee >> more >> and more shows where you see bands opening for prominent DJs. >> >> In the Goth/Industrial Scene that I frequent , recreationally, the DJ h= as >> surplanted the >> live musician as the dominant force. Nowadays if you want to play >> live in these >> scenes you practically have to beg the DJs , who now completely control >> the scenes >> to let you play and feel grateful if they will let you play (and for now >> money). >> >> We don't need to go to the 'are DJs musicians' argument that we've had >> multiple times on this list' >> There are obviously DJs who are wonderful musicians and go on to careers >> as composers and producers. >> I just think that it's telling that the vast majority of DJs that I >> encounter are not being particularly creative >> (with the exception of choice of sound and beatmatching for regularities >> sake) and that this >> has completely dominated a lot of music on the planet. >> >> >> >> It's also kind of amazing to me that >> the birth of the world wide web/internet and the proliferation of >> inexpensive methods to produce high quality music and there existence >> for the last 13 years seems to have not produced very much >> notable or long lasting music. >> >> I know that wonderful music has been created (and I think of our communi= ty >> as being >> really stellar in the production of that music) but it's interesting th= at >> none of it seems >> to be having very much impact on the culture at large. >> >> Everywhere I go, I hear oldies music playing...............every single >> bar I frequent, every single >> restaurant. >> >> In my life, I"ve never heard so much 'nostalgia' dominating our culture= . >> >> Of course the democratization of media means that the paradigms will >> shift...............think the entire >> recent thread on how to release a digital release in this day and age. >> >> Ironically, I feel connected to people all over the earth who are real= ly >> creative and active in their own artistry >> and the communalism of our own scene but at the same time, I'm seeing >> less and less kids taking music >> lessons. >> >> All of this could be the rant of a bitter old professional musician who'= s >> lifestyle is ending after 30 years of hard work, >> but I don't feel bitter for some reason. >> It's the most exciting time to ever be a musician on some >> fronts............certainly in terms of the kind of information that we >> have................................look at this list...............I >> haven't had to go out and buy every distortion box on the planet: >> I"ve just had to ask questions and then benefit from the collective wisd= om >> of this list to make my own choices >> with limited budget to spend. >> >> I'm just musing, 'tis all!!!!! >> >> Looking forward to this year, creatively. I think we are going to do >> amazing stuff.................who knows? >> Maybe we'll define the decade when history looks back on us. We >> certainly have all the tools we need to do so. >> Now we have to produce. >> >> >> > --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_92184_14273726.1230979281718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
good musing Rick, happy new year to you and Chris.  I've thou= ght many a time re your latter point about how easily it is these days to c= reate with the technology being so available.  During the 80's whe= n I was just out of school and was lucky enough to get a job at a televisio= n station, it was just about the only way to have involvement with 'qua= lity' audio and video equipment yet things were dawning as we've no= w experienced.  Just about everything I was involved in that period is= now possible on the desktop and that continues to amaze me.  In addit= ion to that yes the connection of the Internet that has allowed me to know = you, to collaborate with one musician living in Mexico and two others in Sw= eden and to have had interactions with othe musicians all around the globe = through the CyberJams is continually inspiring and amazing to me.  Re = the content for the masses despite the creation of so much 'new' mu= sic I think that despite a rise in the masses appreciation and desire for &= #39;quality' sound their patience to listen beyond 3 minutes or to take= the time to 'listen' as opposed to be 'entertained' for 3 = minutes is why one hears the hits of the 70's in muzak than what we pre= fer to believe is more artfully challenging created material indicative of = our interests.  
 
Good new year to all and may the creations of each of you 'ring th= e changes' about the globe...
 
jim
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gmail.com> wrote:
Great post.

Thanks for yo= ur words Rick.

El 03/01/2009, a las 01:10, Rick Walker escribi=F3:= =20


I can think of one very signific= ant thing that the 90's and perhaps this decade
has produced in worl= d musical culture:

The rise of the DJ as Rock Star or Cultural Icon.

It used to be = that someone would play music between DJs and nowadays I see more
and mo= re shows where you see bands opening for prominent DJs.

In the Goth/= Industrial Scene that I frequent , recreationally,  the DJ has surplan= ted the
live musician as the dominant force.       Nowadays if you w= ant to play live in these
scenes you practically have to beg the DJs , w= ho now completely control the scenes
to let you play and feel grateful i= f they will let you play (and for now money).

We don't need to go to the 'are DJs musicians' argument tha= t we've had multiple times on this list'
There are obviously DJs= who are wonderful musicians and go on to careers as composers and producer= s.
I just think that it's telling that the vast majority of DJs that I enc= ounter are not being particularly creative
(with the exception of choice= of sound and beatmatching for regularities sake) and that this
has comp= letely dominated a lot of music on the planet.



It's also kind of amazing to me that
the birth of the wo= rld wide web/internet and the proliferation of
inexpensive methods to pr= oduce high quality music and there existence
for the last 13 years  = ;seems to have not produced very much
notable or long lasting music.

I know that wonderful music has been = created (and I think of our community as being
really stellar in the pro= duction of that music)  but it's interesting that none of it seems=
to be having very much impact on the culture at large.

Everywhere I = go,  I hear oldies music playing...............every single bar I freq= uent,  every single
restaurant.

In my life,  I"ve = never heard so much 'nostalgia' dominating our culture.

Of course the democratization of media means that the paradigms will sh= ift...............think the entire
recent thread on how to release a dig= ital release in this day and age.

Ironically,   I feel connecte= d to people all over the earth who are really creative and active in their = own artistry
and the communalism of our own scene but at the same time,   I'm s= eeing less and less kids taking music
lessons.

All of this could = be the rant of a bitter old professional musician who's lifestyle is en= ding after 30 years of hard work,
but I don't feel bitter for some reason.
It's the most exciting = time to ever be a musician on some fronts............certainly in terms of = the kind of information that we
have................................look= at this list...............I haven't had to go out and buy every disto= rtion box on the planet:
I"ve just had to ask questions and then benefit from the collective wi= sdom of this list to make my own choices
with limited budget to spend.
I'm just musing,  'tis all!!!!!

Looking forward t= o this year, creatively.  I think we are going to do amazing stuff....= .............who knows?
Maybe we'll define the decade when history looks back on us.   &nb= sp; We certainly have all the tools we need to do so.
Now we have to pro= duce.






--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (sol= o) - http://www.myspace.c= om/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www= .chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goo= din uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghs= strings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay = Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.co= m
------=_Part_92184_14273726.1230979281718-- From ww.samsung.org83@comcast.net Sat Jan 3 10:59:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:59:28 UTC Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F973BE72 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yytg1a0090vp7WLA1ytytV; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:53:58 +0000 Received: from smailcenter42.comcast.net ([204.127.205.142]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yytk1a00634roxo8Rytk3R; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:53:57 +0000 Received: from [41.220.75.3] by smailcenter42.comcast.net; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:53:42 +0000 From: WW.SAMSUNG.ORG83@comcast.net Subject: CONGRATULATIONS ® YOU HAVE 710,000.00 BRITISH POUNDS STERLING FROM SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS PROMO 2008 CONTACT YOUR CLAIMS AGENT (SIR FLOYD JOHNSON) THROUGH THE EMAIL ADDRESS BELOW: samsung_floyd23@windowslive.com Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:53:42 +0000 Message-Id: <010320091053.1661.495F43B400000BD00000067D2200748184CCC8B9ADB1D2B9B2AAACB3BEACD2A9A9@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: V1cuU0FNU1VORy5PUkc4M0Bjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== To: undisclosed-recipients:; From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 11:21:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 521B83BE75; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 122553665/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.207.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.207.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMBAHLYXklPTs8f/2dsb2JhbAAIyiKFcoRE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,322,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="122553665" Message-ID: <495F4B91.6000400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 11:27:13 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Live Looping Demographic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3WZeCD.A.oYC.Ip0XJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Youtube has this interesting feature where you can check stats on the folks who watch your vids. The link is called "Insight", I suspect it only works for the person who uploads the videos. Anyway, demographic for the Norwich 2008 Live looping events is:- No-one under 35 ...and all men! andy butler http://uk.youtube.com/user/livelooper From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 12:45:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAF363BE7B; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=9DF6aOeXfXwbmgLTmwWXkig9vylFWaJiigGzEV+xXEk=; b=dqx2pLRrga6xHujhlvMHwa0WJ7moMTjUiuy9SYZV5YBgwm6hY+z0b9eXVCsNnPCw8e SZYNaI7sh0FDjKGMuRbn7+1EU+MXcXlcsqkFJHXgokAmNyglh3/CeFsxnGaJEQy8iGRh RtfgW9rFg7xEkATE3CFpL2gbPZL/CGY3w5VG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wpEkm8VVxlnGn39bfJrLzTCEP+iAzWzhSKvC62aiDrwzwQD3HzYo3vF7/WrUK4C5TL Iqs58cJ+yyBHK/pO6eO+Lz/A3yoZHG+bYSYtuneCNGg+bcWZow0fD0dUpsQB6E4/AEtI my55b4N+jsHcISqEEXn+8OUj36wCCbAHxEWGI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901030445y781ff116jaf23172076cfbda2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:45:03 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Looping Demographic In-Reply-To: <495F4B91.6000400@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495F4B91.6000400@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Interesting! Does that mean that there are no women on the web? Or that they lurk as "men"? I totally missed out on the 35 year age restriction for Live Looping. Well, maybe it's best that way after all... Kids can get hurt. Loops are dangerous, you got to stay on top on some scary technology and slicing can indeed hurt if the cut goes wrong. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM, andy butler wrote: > Youtube has this interesting feature where you can check stats on the folks > who > watch your vids. > The link is called "Insight", I suspect it only works for the person who > uploads the videos. > > Anyway, demographic for the Norwich 2008 Live looping events is:- > > No-one under 35 > > ...and all men! > > > > andy butler > > http://uk.youtube.com/user/livelooper > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 13:09:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34E143BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=joNfwo6PuSyQq6m5fZfLEQy80zAuAZhqRxDcly0O2gU=; b=KX//Wi9vphaorhbmoTQWv1g7T4GiXxxT52m75BmwSLelm6QdpCxbg6RtA00RMHgaat jZcgc+60+UtxpkUXt41MdMc+uWc9dc2OQVWDOj78Mt70ePGSgwTVWpm944EGQjuPdDhN mPrzyhKTGcIl02qvj43xRSgr2jowDkcbI4QQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hVNClt/eve5TghAwtTKZoWKk21RNsmdhObXlxRHaoqUzJ/pjVFv5ev4XUXbu4CdnIg YyeRXn6VQJMrWfZ5r/Yx3WIimnm7j2VePfRPv2hqLXLjgPNCendtmsW1WbC+CahJmHJ0 p9Qu6NL6tHVX1TPPbPDZdM1MmCWNG3JmBPZ1A= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901030509g57914597w9f50c5c4e64c68b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:09:21 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE In-Reply-To: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:09:23 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Looking forward to this year, creatively. I think we are going to do > amazing stuff.................who knows? > Maybe we'll define the decade when history looks back on us. We > certainly have all the tools we need to do so. > Now we have to produce. Intersting post - as always from Rick. :-) I'd like to respond to the quoted part above that we also need THE MUSIC. That's so basic and simple for us age over 35 (referring to Andy's analysis of viewers on Vimeo) because we have had many years to learn music, but for younger peeps it may not be that obvious. In the old days you had to have the music first, only that would qualify you to get a chance to produce recordings of it. Today "producing recordings" can also be a method of "making music" and this opens up for the alternate, and dreadfully counter productive, scenario where one produces a recording without having the music in the first place. For a person that have not learned to *get* music this doesn't mean a problem because this person will get off just on the hi fi sound a punchy omphyness of the recording. But non recordist-tech-nerd people can not understand such a recording and this may lead into confusion where a lot of people have had "bad experiences with modern music". Oh crap, does this make sense? shall I post it? I write so much crap and only post a third here on the list, the rest I just delete instead of hitting the send button. But this time I will hit the send button... yeah - here - WE _GOOOooOOH! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 13:41:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B600B3BE77; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=dVVvRLekC9x0udXQgncYoQ001GFv1PZ4Kp1tj3Z1P7I=; b=AhoqHa8bReyjkj6CpFUyhmixSw2mqog/Ai7Y8ZuVoysHWyfsBukOlmLQTaGSxOab9y ixfyLpxssn3g9dCgR3s1VvVKek72/PbBRdGv72pl83Z9AFHdahvywgxM4k6dOcvumgTr EJeLCAt5xuciTkwvdA8/USqRr11h+wSJfQdFE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MuxuHBBf+ZBrILUEX+UET9kObZky3wzeH4QtvsBBmf680Z2deZQFM2+S7VDNnDKG1z y6NHb5snVOxqYSs82AIaKH3o5SNRgS9uYuhcEVYxtKG3xeem3+BiWZu6K4Vl5T3RDPRM yhc0YrSpKW0gCekFGud0yWT2xr3vWc2iWtPFQ= Message-ID: <7334ca1b0901030541h72fcb877r3ca8751687ac91d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:41:10 +0100 From: "Rainer Straschill" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Live Looping Demographic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:41:11 +0000 (UTC) > Anyway, demographic for the Norwich 2008 Live looping events is:- > No-one under 35 > ...and all men! This statistic is either wrong because its wrong or wrong because its incomplete (i.e. only displays the last few 7 days or so) - and that apart from the fact that it most probably only will track those who are logged into their youtube account while watching the vid... ...anyway, I did watch the "Part I" video some time ago (I think just after it had been posted), and I'm not female, but under 35. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 13:42:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4700D3BE7B; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <72197A7EA9A849DB9549C4CF34562F63@eluk1> From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:42:00 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:42:08 +0000 (UTC) From: "andy butler" > > Rick Walker wrote: > >> We haven't had a defining cultural year in this past decade yet ( like >> '68 in the sixties, '75 in the 70's , '82 in the 80's, etc.) > > was there anything in the 90's? The rise of the multimedia computer that ACTUALLY PLAYED YOUR CDS!, which became the computer you could make your own studio-quality recordings. No longer did you didn't have to scrimp, save, tour, beg, borrow, steal, and crawl across the carpet of some dinosaur with a cigar who had no idea how to treat music as anything but Intellectual Property, just to get a recording done. No guarantee on that recording either, as if it was better than their current cash cow band-sound, they'd give you an advance then shelve the work forever, or until their current cash cow goes to the abbatoir. The CD Single became a victim of the RIAA's "anti-piracy" efforts, which became more shrill as people began to tell them to bug off, and make their own recordings - and copy those of others. The RIAA and its members never saw it coming, and they're still quite clueless. When the Internet came along, it was inevitable that someone would create a streaming audio method, in this case RealAudio. Never mind that they ultimately pimped the very independents that helped make it a standard, and sold out to the behemoth AOL; it was nevertheless the first gateway for us to publish our work for mass consumption. Again, without any interference (let alone awareness!) from the music industry's dark forces. To meet consumer demand, more sophisticated sound modules-cards became less expensive, making it even easier and more possible to make your own studio-quality recordings, and lessening the need to spend mega-bucks in order to adhere to The Old Structure. We saw video cards getting better and better, and could easily anticipate the access to produce our own videos as well. On the heels of the attempted destruction of the DAT, this was no less the beginning of the end of RIAA/MPAA tyranny and incompetence. Their only responses have been either blustering lawsuits and proclamations, or outright purchase of their competition (for example Napster, despite their ignorance as to what it actually WAS). Viva this particular Revolution, which continues despite the dinosaurs that wish they could oppose it. SP Goodman * http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 14:02:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E8223BE7B; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:02:05 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Hx+yOKgXb3FmabJMkFOcLIuJb9pjye2RuTG3gb43MRBQ98+lmATuYyBaCbfTrPDsWZ+Ajuuco7z02XzubTgama8/8CnQAqjsxkqXqE2o9SkK+LrG13rp3Tv+WZ2jXla5WEs0f1xpzM5K3Nw+2Cz1QJCIGtTK1kcR/DyTYEVn9XI=; X-YMail-OSG: oCcYGlkVM1mBrjb6PgKwPCiqupJHWQtgoYiqA7ygJhTq9_S3lBotLXvRidTqKS2OOXbZ8vBPq4yAX4pZrM6IFrWfxvuMXSSFOGhxFBdm1bHGuAdWoLUlLWeSg0I6AXCbsLkbys6lPEt5VhiDkdknofbFGpyV3CjfSDzll6O9RReik8qIUmnCX5JDh8nZVcKzjF6iz7f2IQ8WKHEcPTYpK3oZ.B3siXZB X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 05:55:21 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Live Looping Demographic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0901030541h72fcb877r3ca8751687ac91d1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <253666.84080.qm@web45316.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:02:06 +0000 (UTC) This thread's reminding me of that scene in 'Spinal Tap' where Rob Reiner points out to the band that their audience is predominantly comprised of adolescent males... -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 14:17:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DFF13BE79; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 126028791/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.207.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.207.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMBAKMCX0lPTs8f/2dsb2JhbAAIwB0IiXuEOAiBMoRE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,322,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="126028791" Message-ID: <495F74C0.80406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:22:56 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Looping Demographic References: <7334ca1b0901030541h72fcb877r3ca8751687ac91d1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0901030541h72fcb877r3ca8751687ac91d1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: >> Anyway, demographic for the Norwich 2008 Live looping events is:- >> No-one under 35 >> ...and all men! > > This statistic is either wrong because its wrong or wrong because its > incomplete (i.e. only displays the last few 7 days or so) - and that > apart from the fact that it most probably only will track those who > are logged into their youtube account while watching the vid... > ...anyway, I did watch the "Part I" video some time ago (I think just > after it had been posted), and I'm not female, but under 35. > > Rainer > > some hope then :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 15:08:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21E0E3BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=2AO4PuCR2V9ABHNR/RBx7+nxwFXSEF+hcS2XghRlTZE=; b=nmEbJOyqj4X8OTw4Es4l1nu2z3sZ/LwMMDcGfrH4XbWGhUfj384T+AqXxff58LI+sv DTiBVOCdG30Y2c221gPUCJMAZyqMkLaKnfx0WkMn2T8vYi/yd2LaVTsp+nzC0zUVDhON kSyOJ5EE6f+Qml8DQ+d+uW2hBY5gMFbN5xGPc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=qosF9gw0ITFp+mp6CGj/PIw+mAXYda1f0qTRqqO/hqW6H5DZXrtiVFwz3dJts3p10w QPr44n3H5G8w41VG5aQqhOyqgzelu95e4NvXX5oZYPv/nyEfC4VjpYmG3CPq3uTY+cqF sn4IN8PHkSAYcDxk6mWGgbvWyha3+o8N7KPIs= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:08:38 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5ad460e1ca5f34f7 Resent-Message-ID: <2NUS_B.A.-BC.593XJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I just finished a new and VERY noisy track last night, using my new (old) Roland EF303 effects box. It seemed like it was completely wrong music to accompany a couple of infrared video experiments I did a few weeks ago, so I slapped it on as a soundtrack: Its called Making People http://vimeo.com/2702907 The vid was shot in complete darkness, using a prettyy low quality panasonic camera, I love the look of infrared, it seems so.. er.. waxy?? The music was inspired partly by the recent DISTORTION thread, and sound source being baritone guitar thru Bitrman (all knobs on MAX - Bit reducer setting) and a voicey kind of patch I created on my Roland GR30, inspired by Simeons cool voicey sounds on his recent Vimeo post. The looper is obviously edp, and half way thru it is pitch shifted by the EF303, as I also record to the repeater, which is getting CC=B4s also from the EF303, to kinda randomly mute and unmute the Repeaters tracks. As the pitch processing and the muting are coming from the same controler (the analog sequencer on th EF303) the 2 loopers blend very well, and you cant really tell the difference. Be warned.. its hardly pretty, and somewhat harsh, as I alos chose a very short metallic reverb for the overall mix, where I usually like a soft and long verb... enjoy... a bit!!! Mark --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 15:37:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7B433BE7E; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FcIiA5X1qoLm9kOhNBWycUYooxia6VadSbK4TUtFXMY=; b=XM9WjdYEKipktcBiM/Clhm1WPJ9a/utRxe4qQ/K2ut5G0vrDaLcGvXzM/nZvg/bB8q WABmLNFR3LVeRz5Afk6TpDW4paKl289IBx8iV9a+6dfQ71DYGpcBO0ohUs0NpHAYpoXd Pv36aWrwZWDLnOJZKkJWKmkUjxlmeW/KKHjxQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=netgIHRJrYvkFxh0uOmZxHM/PAy5gqgyGi9pwWokJBDN7HxZcTynB41TuuOrpLrRXw TszcgZgOzt4yuHMmXYWpqIYN3Vgz4QRc4GO98Hplvb4apXgudi98dGUeDksgmc1c5jlc ksQWL08H9BYbDpuaQOGZRc2dLWaO+JdVN+O38= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901030737i26c53683q933dab426a8954d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:37:20 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:37:21 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Its called Making People "Making Peple" - cool title. I've made two so far. They're here now, busy hacking in on C&C3 and WoW. > http://vimeo.com/2702907 > > The vid was shot in complete darkness, Cool! But there's more to your concept: you have uploaded it as "Private Video" so we can't watch what you did there in the darkness.... "VERY noisy track" sounds like the trick, so may ask for permission to log in for it? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 16:48:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE1EB3BE7C; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=a4BEWpNTxjdZtpQTAF4qtbkuMryZQn2yEiuQy7sPzZk=; b=J9AwjSXml9d7xJVdc2AIJCP4nmh1xVkBeGdbR1R65boWcdfgM07RsXMpHJa1fdJvwn q4ef8j2Xk22PwoeSy/dC2fbalcvy9XsRtdgumZ8Fl1UAmSqMmgMOQv+/11BMO3W8i41+ iC+FIcPEhFupi0hCfhO4tmIxD0Td9OOgrZ4f4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=F63f7o/Kz9M9HzUfZSvmTCdWaGD0XwzZN8u6Lg0p8FOu2kTh3qbWQWD/pjfCswySFQ N3DMyvEEMyZDjilJPQgDhwqpDzNYMHu3I/rh+E0hRYuRkT7QXE1msKZhuOc9uIp7OP6n WmSnywMeYTftQeJ/FeKSX9IiWqKZZNqewNMT4= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0901030848p77c64786sd5cf4c4a78051b33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:48:10 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901030737i26c53683q933dab426a8954d6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0901030737i26c53683q933dab426a8954d6@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: eef74e67494333f6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:48:12 +0000 (UTC) oops.. ill fix... i normally set them like that before i have checked on the page... try again http://vimeo.com/2702907 On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> Its called Making People > > "Making Peple" - cool title. I've made two so far. They're here now, > busy hacking in on C&C3 and WoW. > >> http://vimeo.com/2702907 >> >> The vid was shot in complete darkness, > > Cool! But there's more to your concept: you have uploaded it as > "Private Video" so we can't watch what you did there in the > darkness.... "VERY noisy track" sounds like the trick, so may ask for > permission to log in for it? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 17:13:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 776AF3BE7C; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=zujlbpRMt0oP/Sw66UlEqH1JBfZK+QLQMjZ687kPjcQ=; b=xopNDxD4X63hPtRWDdnP+VS6M12i7y/OzOaFTwqFr+EagFTwdBaIPFRtSHQsNryd4W ovGr2V//zIHyKcuIiSqSLulE+X4JZEXb3lJBa+7oUicUgfI4Fb/oiIl0vmgS4S0UD+mv owNpf8KT3bqMiWsUlOPRgsW/GA2/2doSUfUtY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Whf5FV2gln+ytlRWZdxpwOLbUbwSz+vAGt3kWXUjsI/SXybhSr50/oB3bxGYrUGY84 F40+M3E4dID0/tbhzXM7uUAcOeLWZSdMOMnlAT7H7sIyeTUOG0g8MSFKM3wlLtHLjqJo TImFksK2VeOp9mnfx2PgWW9y/bhXT6h2h0/OE= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:13:54 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: LD Subject: OT: Vinyl sales double in last year !ZOMG! 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------=_Part_195774_15292301.1231002834905-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 17:18:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB0553BE72; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=bjPPZPHfjKVP9EGDGDqzse9nh5O7MNm9nkxbM41HOvA=; b=u6wjfITQWSaZLQfcjgagcHNNbxbfUVq4HqU4K2ZDqJr/gJRNyxO6Wjvw0agOte4/1q H8ctV4vDkBWeUgBHDxrhJyIVNTgUcOoq2ggJXUXmfhHTmal3NYHaA04WD+DUvv173m9Z y4ZofyNv8IxUQN0Ehu3NzhuPGZ1/paczfZzQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=f+XdAa0i7o/UTBeVSY2Xo3UnOO7JAkst4+Ir7pA5NquKAO+9C+eSnRn5zplv8/iBZ2 0JWady9IqmTwsHWskcRMlAiL1pZPzLbTLZyr0Tn27Jwm8o+SJ0z34tvjVYfOQd2atJbD lI5rqXAXlrvZU48avD59CcgvDegdWDY8T3rQM= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0901030911jefaca13q918762961068dd8b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:11:25 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? In-Reply-To: <72197A7EA9A849DB9549C4CF34562F63@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> <72197A7EA9A849DB9549C4CF34562F63@eluk1> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ea0da402c0b27485 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:18:17 +0000 (UTC) '82 in the 80's,?? What happened in 82? For me 86 was the year in the eighties.. the second summer of love, new improved... now with added RAVE.. and the 90=B4s? maybe not one particular year.. but WOW what music!!!! Drum and Bass and Jungle, Techno (as opposed to US house) Incredibe computer recording... Moby, Aphex Twin.. and the MASSIVE emergence of Free Improv (and its vicarious offshoots, noise, jazz, the new silence, and the folketronica) into the live scene, and the blurring of the edges of lost genres... although that more this millenia stuff I guess... As a bit of a response to Pers post, not dissagreeing, just posting somthing I just read... Im reading the Book "The Peel sessions" FAcinating, if anal book that outlines the history of the commissioned recordings that the sadly missed John Peel would play twice a week on Radio 1 in the UK. There is a quote from John Walters (Peels producer) that during the Punk period he was booking new bands EVERY week for a recording session.. He once wrote a note and handed it to a band that was playing... it read. "Hi, great gig, you possess the kind of unmusical qualities that we should applaud, please call x x x x x to arrange coming in for a session for the John Peel show. .. The band was The Fall. who went on to have more radio session than any other band in Peels history. I think that if a band or musician is encouraged, and is able to make and record music, then they WILL progress, both skill-wise and musically. The NEW AGE of computers allows kids to do this.. whereas before, poor, working class kids could NO WAY hope to afford even a few hours in a studio. Except for the lucky few (including myself) who were taken under Peels wing and given a chance. I dont know if there is an equivalent DJ in the US, but in the UK it is hard to underestimate the mans influence and the love that my generation, the generation before and the current generation have for the man. I cried like a baby when I heard of his passing. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 17:31:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 578953BE79; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6rIsB2wY/uKOg5VOXpQ5q7RFykcq/YY+A5dz0Jbwpy0=; b=NLejPQ/gvREIUZSceI4ITiJhPoUhM3uI2iiM2Aqx737q1Fd3zvOySz+gPq845D+ahD 3A4I9nM9SnFINQH+GBB8TfGl6uxV8iWeqM/WwoqVhlHONwnRC03YeF5RgLR8JtfYN9OH Q9mCJ5KuZEVjq5UeiCNzjjytbpWKIaompm8ww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=pDlaMEROUmk/157OsvY2Y9PSYD/EJ97i8AijSm0li4ASJidDrtEz745aIPtuko8h8F vSzU+7LJe/QHvnVVaMgKc+pwfxkN9o+d49aMp58l4fmCHRlxfxEBMYwc/CH2YKJ7lrNO PBbjdk8PySz3BQ1zC1ugAL51cnolS0SwfXpiA= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901030931m469ff426jbb4c52d5b32ccfe9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:31:28 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl sales double in last year !ZOMG! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Interesting! Good thing I never threw away those stacks of LPs. Now I just need to afford a turntable. That might happen in 2009! :-) Oh... and then I need to secure an area here in the apartment for the thing to live. No free space available but I guess that can be fixed in 2009... Oh... then I need to phase out vibrations from us all walking on the floor. Old house here. Or maybe I could hang the grammo from the ceiling! Oh no, the neighbor above us also walks on the wiggly floor. Ok, may have to think about something else then. Maybe I should rip them to mp3's.... ooops! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com (starting to remember why I gave up in finding a good diamond and bought a CD player) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > More news on retail music trends: > > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Storage&articleId=9124699&taxonomyId=19&pageNumber=1 > > > TH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 17:40:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 711D23BE72; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231004421; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=1ujBgIYdMgfaKVvnjCGdS6v256A=; b=XSPW9E6bFNwOUhLlvZZGMS06olwdoVOhkP+OOvinnQQkTO2Hi0GrryvvzD+hZa2A GrEo1AEOu1GIX/WEVeWaQMKWmwBACq/VV7ZTDgbMwwaBMSxQQ4bNybdjyeomF4tQ; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=YJ1anN4jkzIA:10 a=WqSPny7czR8A:10 a=7GUP8flqAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=TCI8UqU29i-g9nizr30A:9 a=ip98uZbawMrfOE2mPOkA:7 a=9e6H0nkkraJ8sZiDcFvaFanDM3EA:4 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=oLyKKK6XQo0A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002001c96dca$59d6cac0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> <72197A7EA9A849DB9549C4CF34562F63@eluk1> <9ab0c76f0901030911jefaca13q918762961068dd8b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:40:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Actually '81 but King Crimson reformed with "Discipline". I took up guitar that year at 27. I played Beatles covers and originals in my first band as a guitarist. IMO commercial radio was a wasteland. I had wrek in atlanta, http://www.wrek.org/ for my listening education and pleasure, thank God. I got married for the second time in '84. And I was discovering looping with the EH 16 sec delay and other long delays. So the '80s were good at second glance. Very diversified for me. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" To: Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? '82 in the 80's,?? What happened in 82? For me 86 was the year in the eighties.. the second summer of love, new improved... now with added RAVE.. and the 90´s? maybe not one particular year.. but WOW what music!!!! Drum and Bass and Jungle, Techno (as opposed to US house) Incredibe computer recording... Moby, Aphex Twin.. and the MASSIVE emergence of Free Improv (and its vicarious offshoots, noise, jazz, the new silence, and the folketronica) into the live scene, and the blurring of the edges of lost genres... although that more this millenia stuff I guess... As a bit of a response to Pers post, not dissagreeing, just posting somthing I just read... Im reading the Book "The Peel sessions" FAcinating, if anal book that outlines the history of the commissioned recordings that the sadly missed John Peel would play twice a week on Radio 1 in the UK. There is a quote from John Walters (Peels producer) that during the Punk period he was booking new bands EVERY week for a recording session.. He once wrote a note and handed it to a band that was playing... it read. "Hi, great gig, you possess the kind of unmusical qualities that we should applaud, please call x x x x x to arrange coming in for a session for the John Peel show. .. The band was The Fall. who went on to have more radio session than any other band in Peels history. I think that if a band or musician is encouraged, and is able to make and record music, then they WILL progress, both skill-wise and musically. The NEW AGE of computers allows kids to do this.. whereas before, poor, working class kids could NO WAY hope to afford even a few hours in a studio. Except for the lucky few (including myself) who were taken under Peels wing and given a chance. I dont know if there is an equivalent DJ in the US, but in the UK it is hard to underestimate the mans influence and the love that my generation, the generation before and the current generation have for the man. I cried like a baby when I heard of his passing. Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: 1/2/2009 1:10 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 17:42:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 214D63BE7E; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231004569; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=aY2ZthM8Bg/f2hXPs3Q67Q9b1T8=; b=bytnHaGn0v62PcucylsygEhAPXIgs5W3DEp0m9uBJlulmpRBR95MYScKC1TGM4IN 6+9tiQQjHjR93ZOboYScBXR+snOXzYMwr7ZBp34jeeKN8DLA8KeSK6HQ+qtD03F6; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TR5fbJirm1MA:10 a=WmvBpigeB4kA:10 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=aYZ54NaZk-TCSqbyPgQA:9 a=qavrhk0HIX7NuQvdPdQA:7 a=G8It6sMf6_kDw6N2UmPF0rDYgvEA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=aFdSZ05Rf_QA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002f01c96dca$b1cd6860$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0901030737i26c53683q933dab426a8954d6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:42:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:42:49 +0000 (UTC) "Making People" is really cool, both music and video. I was kinda expecting them to get up and walk away though, heh. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, mark francombe > wrote: >> Its called Making People > > "Making Peple" - cool title. I've made two so far. They're here now, > busy hacking in on C&C3 and WoW. > >> http://vimeo.com/2702907 >> >> The vid was shot in complete darkness, > > Cool! But there's more to your concept: you have uploaded it as > "Private Video" so we can't watch what you did there in the > darkness.... "VERY noisy track" sounds like the trick, so may ask for > permission to log in for it? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: 1/2/2009 1:10 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 18:00:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A5783BE7C; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0rixbWUtZX/b3CVtSFvAPtOv4bWmYX//OqC3g3YfssU=; b=tjpnckO1KO8EIsNbADGBV6khBPcAGnqDHgCVqNhBvp3sdEX6vO5nFpvsx2P7yguC8D cGbjfQjQaMpQcYFG9F39AjcI59kG+w0XDJuxi/41tUhQ/tg22cWT7uNhKqezF7RTXBLp oHTKsu9XfgFBYT4ldQW1P5yBREfWjrrp8mBdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=FD86+4L3dy2xwCYlQznOnl63r+KcLbvuctssisAmKKnBRG8+yoNUNRVdGuGwd/Y8b4 DClAcZH84A3wxrBmn6Cstn2Tzw0XzOUGEKDMkfOC4MWc4HmlcGGUnhds4QUqdZd34uEN 3+TI85oDOu2ut6bXNRhfPWDoShZA2GSwtgdko= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901031000s2b34478wa37c2eef6ca47668@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:00:46 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of THE DECADE? In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0901030911jefaca13q918762961068dd8b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <495BE51E.9070403@cruzio.com> <495E2521.2020904@tiscali.co.uk> <72197A7EA9A849DB9549C4CF34562F63@eluk1> <9ab0c76f0901030911jefaca13q918762961068dd8b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4qrFZ.A.nrH.Pf6XJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:00:48 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:11 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > and the 90=B4s? maybe not one particular year.. but WOW what music!!!! Yes, it all opened up in the very beginning of the nineties. Crossover music, mixing genres, were heard in main media for the first time (leaving out those legendary US radio station of the sixties since they were closed down anyway and wasn't heard here in Sweden). A big experience for me was when the guys of :Zoviet*France: called me on the phone one afternoon in -91 to ask me over to play at a festival in Edinborough. They had money for the flight ticket already covered. This was really an out-of-this-world experience for me. That someone that far away can connect on basis of mutual musical taste that was normally regarded as "crazy ideas". A couple of days later they called me up again and told me the police had "closed the venue and forbidden the festival". What a bummer! But the experience was tremendously uplifting anyway. I had already worked on a gold selling album (60.000 copies) and toured fulltime, but this phone call meant even more, since it was the first time someone that I admired artistically had contacted me for the sake of my music. It left a strong impression and a feeling that the world may not be such a lonely place after all. This was before the internet explosion and guys like them, hafler trio etc, had to build their own snail mail distro channels. A noise jazz industrial live looping duo cassette I had recorded in the late eighties had been floating around obscure fanzines and landed by someone who cared. > recording session.. He once wrote a note and handed it to a band that > was playing... it read. "Hi, great gig, you possess the kind of > unmusical qualities that we should applaud, please call x x x x x to > arrange coming in for a session for the John Peel show. .. The band > was The Fall. Wow - I loved discovering The Fall in the eighties. What album covers! I glued one on my toilet wall as decoration to be looked at through the mirror and kept the record in the inner sleave. Yes. Peel rocked! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 19:10:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D3843BE79; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "greg williams" To: Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:10:51 -0800 Message-ID: <917E7B6320F440D7AEF39B9A81170392@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aclt1QKt5dd6PX8eSW28Wf/3DuwqDQAAdN5A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <675469.9390.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) I have some Baroque guitar tablature (Sanz, Murcia, etc.) which contains specific symbols for 'golpe', making a percussive sound on the face or bridge of the guitar. It's rare, but it is there, mid/late 1700s. ~Greg www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist http://www.magnatune.com/artists/greg_williams -----Original Message----- From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges i really dont know how to describe that style,you guys know better than i do about the true inventor,off course we could even go back to the blues and there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean that slap harmonics over a harmonic node and the use of right hand hammer-ons with bass notes and the left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, percussive slapping on the guitar body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt invent that then it was Preston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i guess he was given credit for that.In any case because of that style i believe there were few pickup systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance audio),but i see a lot of of cats now that do that sort of style having to get special custom made systems for them,so the market must still be too small... like looping was!! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - wrote: > From: samba - > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > To: billwalker@baymoon.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM > I don't think Tuck was the originator,didn't mean to > suggest it,just that Hedges, wasn't. He was great > though.He was a fan of my old band,so I was very slightly > acquainted,great guy too. I thought of mentioning Farlow,but > he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or riffs so much > as use it for articulating chords,as far as I can tell.I > never heard him live.I know he had huge hands could reach > insane voicings,and would do stuff like strum a chord > fingered high up the neck,then tap a low position bass note > with the right hand 1st finger while holding the chord. Or > strum a chord with the little finger while holding a bass > note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden Powell,and other > Brasileiros ,like the Flamencos did all sorts of percussive > tapping. > > > > > > > > If > we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but > timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live > in the > present.Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat > everyone to it, at least to the finger tapping part.and > that's not > talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell, who > could mimic a samba > batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. > This was happening > back in the 60's at least. > > Bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: samba - > [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 > 9:05 AM > > To: > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping > hedges > > > > > > "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,... since > Michael Hedges invented it." > > Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But definately > didn't invent tapping. My friend > > Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to > apply tapping to African guitar styles) > > told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity > Theater, > > in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill) > listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping > > and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the > idea from Tuck. > > But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly > worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 19:50:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CFFA3BE7C; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=JJcnm+bLF8Cg0j1pOEafFBg+q7Edlf0wwxMOxgnTnRw=; b=UVUNexoRoKRqMfvlB7J3i5ZAIQ8zNkHiZZCjPKIR1pDnJx3cvIoUplZg+zTnXYi7Cp YxXLhk8hv7dE9eqBRMY1caWczprPfAbdW3DIEC1O3hoZBQw310a2nLFn7O+wX/X4LkWT 7lpKx58YOIt+SsXTvVHvxYeKmgN+XcXJvTsnk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gOa4OBf3ciNO49opifTa+XhgOo8JbFuRUcgNZrG6BfIQuGTc75vtuBJ9bwNsnFOIQf vG6Cpbj4+RVcg3JZb2qAUlhau1+aMcpFS5OCWVgYzXeWqXn2p/t1LPgDak98IoVFy43U n0gFG7ifvyoVDIW1YL7o/lREuTgTOMT2VgEcQ= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:50:33 -0500 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: feedback nylon tapping hedges In-Reply-To: <917E7B6320F440D7AEF39B9A81170392@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_244735_1416689.1231012233635" References: <675469.9390.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <917E7B6320F440D7AEF39B9A81170392@gwdesk> Resent-Message-ID: <9zrWbC.A.FwD.MG8XJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:50:36 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_244735_1416689.1231012233635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Classical guitar has a long tradition of using the "golpe" technique that Greg describes ... it really isn't a 20th century invention. Dennis On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, greg williams wrote: > I have some Baroque guitar tablature (Sanz, Murcia, etc.) which contains > specific symbols for 'golpe', making a percussive sound on the face or > bridge of the guitar. It's rare, but it is there, mid/late 1700s. > > ~Greg > www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/greg_williams > > -----Original Message----- > From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:42 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > i really dont know how to describe that style,you guys know better than i > do > about the true inventor,off course we could even go back to the blues and > there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean that slap harmonics over a > harmonic node and the use of right hand hammer-ons with bass notes and the > left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, percussive slapping on the guitar > body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt invent that then it was > Preston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i guess he was given credit > for that.In any case because of that style i believe there were few pickup > systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance audio),but i see a lot of of > cats now that do that sort of style having to get special custom made > systems for them,so the market must still be too small... > like looping was!! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - wrote: > > > From: samba - > > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > To: billwalker@baymoon.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM > > I don't think Tuck was the originator,didn't mean to > > suggest it,just that Hedges, wasn't. He was great > > though.He was a fan of my old band,so I was very slightly > > acquainted,great guy too. I thought of mentioning Farlow,but > > he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or riffs so much > > as use it for articulating chords,as far as I can tell.I > > never heard him live.I know he had huge hands could reach > > insane voicings,and would do stuff like strum a chord > > fingered high up the neck,then tap a low position bass note > > with the right hand 1st finger while holding the chord. Or > > strum a chord with the little finger while holding a bass > > note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden Powell,and other > > Brasileiros ,like the Flamencos did all sorts of percussive > > tapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If > > we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but > > timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live > > in the > > present.Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat > > everyone to it, at least to the finger tapping part.and > > that's not > > talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden Powell, who > > could mimic a samba > > batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his guitar. > > This was happening > > back in the 60's at least. > > > > Bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: samba - > > [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 > > 9:05 AM > > > > To: > > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping > > hedges > > > > > > > > > > > > "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,... since > > Michael Hedges invented it." > > > > Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But definately > > didn't invent tapping. My friend > > > > Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to > > apply tapping to African guitar styles) > > > > told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity > > Theater, > > > > in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill) > > listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping > > > > and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the > > idea from Tuck. > > > > But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly > > worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar. > > > > > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_244735_1416689.1231012233635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Classical guitar has a long tradition of using the "golpe" technique that Greg describes ... it really isn't a 20th century invention.

Dennis

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, greg williams <gregorwilliams@comcast.net> wrote:
I have some Baroque guitar tablature (Sanz, Murcia, etc.) which contains
specific symbols for 'golpe', making a percussive sound on the face or
bridge of the guitar. It's rare, but it is there, mid/late 1700s.

~Greg
www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist
http://www.magnatune.com/artists/greg_williams

-----Original Message-----
From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:42 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges

i really dont know how to describe that style,you guys know better than i do
about the true inventor,off course we could even go back to the blues and
there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean that slap harmonics over a
harmonic node and the use of right hand hammer-ons with bass notes and the
left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, percussive slapping on the guitar
body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt invent that then it was
Preston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i guess he was given credit
for that.In any case because of that style i believe there were few pickup
systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance audio),but i see a lot of of
cats now that do that sort of style having to get special custom made
systems for them,so the market must still be too small...
like looping was!!

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges
> To: billwalker@baymoon.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM
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>  Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the first to
> apply tapping to African guitar styles)
>
>  told me about sitting with Hedges at the old Varsity
> Theater,
>
>   in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam Hill)
> listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping
>
>   and Hedges saying "that's it" He got the
> idea from Tuck.
>
>   But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa highly
> worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar.








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------=_Part_244735_1416689.1231012233635-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 19:52:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D02DF3BE78; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=mMfU+7Mlbd6O79PRAup0+kbi07dd5vjdV6X4g0jfi4McFT0Ig3LIyHe5R/qTCLEKV6YRMzoWeAOgHruK/QdFmpWLLqIGW3/TxyCxs9np90lwC12FY1L2oYZrzjojK/vbU3LO4UprCqjWu49NgMBbBgOKsLxjpYMg8GDtWG6Hmf4=; X-YMail-OSG: StkqEQcVM1mTvhJD69sidzTHjNGSOsI9RBedK2jqYFKLhs2LNvC7eiAtABc4u962buK6n0h2wXk4GrzrrXdHrGiNZ2UOwUjxy9jLfAZLda2qW5XJZIVLSTCwDCBjsxTf6CM28OqdnGn8xW3kY6xtn4Uawbuu.eLRay7ehUBGpHqgBWNB6GmVZRCKR8SqOg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:52:53 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: feedback nylon tapping hedges To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <620830.70505.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-qfYRB.A.97D.XI8XJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:52:55 +0000 (UTC) but who is talking about a golpe? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Dennis Moser wrote: > From: Dennis Moser > Subject: Re: feedback nylon tapping hedges > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 11:50 AM > Classical guitar has a long tradition of using the > "golpe" technique that > Greg describes ... it really isn't a 20th century > invention. > > Dennis > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, greg williams > wrote: > > > I have some Baroque guitar tablature (Sanz, Murcia, > etc.) which contains > > specific symbols for 'golpe', making a > percussive sound on the face or > > bridge of the guitar. It's rare, but it is there, > mid/late 1700s. > > > > ~Greg > > www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist > > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/greg_williams > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:42 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > > > i really dont know how to describe that style,you guys > know better than i > > do > > about the true inventor,off course we could even go > back to the blues and > > there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean that > slap harmonics over a > > harmonic node and the use of right hand hammer-ons > with bass notes and the > > left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, percussive > slapping on the guitar > > body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt > invent that then it was > > Preston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i > guess he was given credit > > for that.In any case because of that style i believe > there were few pickup > > systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance > audio),but i see a lot of of > > cats now that do that sort of style having to get > special custom made > > systems for them,so the market must still be too > small... > > like looping was!! > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - > wrote: > > > > > From: samba - > > > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > > To: billwalker@baymoon.com, > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM > > > I don't think Tuck was the > originator,didn't mean to > > > suggest it,just that Hedges, wasn't. He was > great > > > though.He was a fan of my old band,so I was very > slightly > > > acquainted,great guy too. I thought of mentioning > Farlow,but > > > he didn't exactly tap melodic passages or > riffs so much > > > as use it for articulating chords,as far as I can > tell.I > > > never heard him live.I know he had huge hands > could reach > > > insane voicings,and would do stuff like strum a > chord > > > fingered high up the neck,then tap a low > position bass note > > > with the right hand 1st finger while holding the > chord. Or > > > strum a chord with the little finger while > holding a bass > > > note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden > Powell,and other > > > Brasileiros ,like the Flamencos did all sorts of > percussive > > > tapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If > > > we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal > duration but > > > timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those > who live > > > in the > > > present.Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat > > > everyone to it, at least to the finger tapping > part.and > > > that's not > > > talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden > Powell, who > > > could mimic a samba > > > batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes on his > guitar. > > > This was happening > > > back in the 60's at least. > > > > > > Bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: samba - > > > [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com] > > > > > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 > > > 9:05 AM > > > > > > To: > > > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > > Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping > > > hedges > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "... two hand tap acoustic guitarrists,... > since > > > Michael Hedges invented it." > > > > > > Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But > definately > > > didn't invent tapping. My friend > > > > > > Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly the > first to > > > apply tapping to African guitar styles) > > > > > > told me about sitting with Hedges at the old > Varsity > > > Theater, > > > > > > in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for Windam > Hill) > > > listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping > > > > > > and Hedges saying "that's it" He > got the > > > idea from Tuck. > > > > > > But maybe you meat Hedges picku system,which wa > highly > > > worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://myspace.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 22:19:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76D753BE77; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <495FE486.5010006@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:19:50 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT: Vinyl sales double in last year !ZOMG! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:19:48 +0000 (UTC) This is what is terribly misleading about journalism headline 'grabbers' sometimes: This is the headline from a website that Travis graciously directed us to: Back to the future: Vinyl record sales double in '08, CDs down What's old is new again when it comes to audio storage http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Storage&articleId=9124699&taxonomyId=19&pageNumber=1 This article reports in it's headline that VINYL sales are up and CD sales down, making it look like a trend that VINYL is on the move to supplant CDs I did the math: 1.8 million VINYL sales 360 CD sales that make VINYL sales 0.005% of total CD sales. Hardly a trend of note. mp3 sales surged from 32 million to 65 million which is, again, only 18% of total CD sales Now that we have that sorted, I want the real statistics: How many FREE mp3s have been downloaded? Of those FREE mp3s, how many were illegal downloads; how many were sanctioned? How many video games purchased? How many DVDs (of movies) purchased. and lastly, how many times was Guitar Hero purchased and, more importantly, played by kids who will never touch an instrument in their life. Comparing these figures to CD sales (which plummetted from 550 million to 360 million in the past two years) will be more telling statistics, I imagine. signed, someone working hard to release several recordings on a medium that apparently no one wants to purchase From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 22:33:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED1363BE7F; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <495FE7A4.6000205@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:33:08 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: CALL PATTY COOPER immediately 761-2403. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, this is Patty Cooper, Mezzo's friend, from San Antonio. I'm here in Santa Cruz with my son Jake for a week. We would like to ask you some questions about the drumming scene here. Could you give a call? 761-2403. Thanks!! Patty and Jake. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 23:16:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A8B93BE77; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xH+UOU71Pec67CLGmuU+a7V3QvKbrM1FVh41gwczzo4=; b=vaVYRcvqNix5J9mwEmoJ0RS6CPzUwwhRXd8Snd6iRqX0xt3KsEy5LQ5yxNt/zMcplB irGXMeDgwyJmMGZa3vRGUNxSle2KioNEPUoiGqEfV2oUXWcg9gBIT2Od8EQLco3kaY8m xhihfDU59orbeI5GHryZkeyoNRyReWPpTBK70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=CjwtEJ1QiYS/KMLLPHYsLBWZPUe1zE44qCplJpe6DddF2JHN1JX/pWfliPbJq3a5z6 fcDJMxNYnT5GmV2TwDf22v6rcAfwIU9yOwDPPrmGoBhu9ZkXu9VsISCT+W27T5fGNWL5 DdNXdr0zL4rW8NCDJKhrn0zto59cCBGMdd5Go= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901031516pf17004sc5a6aa4c8a2aee47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 00:16:12 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CALL PATTY COOPER immediately 761-2403. In-Reply-To: <495FE7A4.6000205@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495FE7A4.6000205@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:16:13 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Hi Rick, this is Patty Cooper, Mezzo's friend, from San Antonio. I'm here in > Santa Cruz with my son Jake for a week. > We would like to ask you some questions about the drumming scene here. Could > you give a call? 761-2403. Thanks!! Patty and Jake. Go Rick Go Make Cooper Looper! Per amused with this new "social media" loopers-delight ;-)) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jan 3 23:59:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 265493BE79; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:59:41 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901011328o6e956545m41674764073d6cdc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090103235941.183180@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4AE8FB7E-C97E-485D-B084-156244A510D8@theclaypools.com> <20081230101259.206590@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0812300228k2bff7495oed134e1a03ba04c7@mail.gmail.com> <20090101203549.63390@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0901011328o6e956545m41674764073d6cdc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What does it mean to you, to "release a record"? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+cA+8ucFKch/dra0p09mEbyfaEclYjTcYTdnziYM XHiQ81E9AsvGjjpA6uS9+fAU6JheVi8JeN0Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: g5Y9HclnbXB+WcxpyTU2dCoiLyUmZYiN X-FuHaFi: 0.67 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > "Indie" artist is short for "independent" artist Wasn't necessary to explain this on 101 level ;-) Don't get me wrong: I don't mean to frame the indie artist as an embittered/less fortunate "not very talented and too lazy for making money on your own" ;-) Nowadays with the possibilities of computers & Internet for the process of music production as well as distribution, this is more than a viable option for many good artists. I was just really wondering how far people can get without a big company in their back. Nevermind, in the end, it seems to me that the most important factor is: NETWORK. The people you know, the people you work with etc... But I guess that is true for any business... best regards Buzap -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 01:08:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33CD93BE7C; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 01:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:08:16 UTC Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:59:22 -0500 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T with 4 rock bands 01.07.09, Boston MA To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 01:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be doing video improv with four rock bands at Great Scott in Allston on Jan 7. wednesday, 1/7/09 date at Great Scott from first to last: the crushing low www.myspace.com/thecrushinglow where the land meets the sea www.myspace.com/wherethelandmeetsthesea 28 degrees taurus www.myspace.com/28degreestaurus the wandas www.myspace.com/thewandas 1) 9-935 2) 955-1030 3) 1050-1130 4) 1145- 1230 Admission $8.00 http://www.greatscottboston.com/ 1222 Commonwealth Ave Allston, MA 02134 (617) 566-9014 -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 01:42:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 674943BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 01:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6d6DZe8Ss5tnD7RTDXIRTpXGXDmzDRF/amZXbsAHB7M=; b=wUH9hMUjZCdOzIt4hg6RFH988cGEMBsJoteToyYG0ba/1omeWwYvfjGzmcuLGAOpir LcGORbd2ok0NL5mkXvRb9ci1vXEy3M0fLnSqG7Rnqs2U9b8JZ+q9j2MBONZ5KcmAWuI3 26ULC8O3j9JDnZ4jIVO/fcDyBIwUILycdHbNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=cpUGyGr+8yW7NhT6SbmH7NnWugtlcUauN9oy7r7IQ5SVneUYkwa1pXH2DamLlkX6U3 n+r39IzKXGallD2L5qnq6POo5kLtcCM8D55OJHVNVhn/kFuag1D1iJ8e4PPL1fgm8wza cmINhTM5rfqQ65+ORSnRGehaK9QPK+rqluLYA= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901031742q69ce8de6he4a0b17f520d81e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 02:42:43 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: New site needs your help! :-) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901021619l6ee146b6y5c3b10627cbb433d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0901021139s1768e80cya2b636996931b6ce@mail.gmail.com> <654037.28675.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0901021612k7bf55043wcbc1151639722388@mail.gmail.com> <004c01c96d38$c0c93de0$0501a8c0@STUDIO1> <66f9cc1e0901021619l6ee146b6y5c3b10627cbb433d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 01:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Since I posted this call, a second article has been posted. So here's the direct link to the first article, that I asked for help with: http://www.perboysen.com/archives/1 By the end of the article there is a listing of some "Live Looping Resources links". If should think that I have forgotten some, please submit a comment at the site about it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 04:25:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09EA03BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 04:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d7ca67f7-c73d-4123-8c6e-f7939a4b40db_" X-Originating-IP: [69.179.158.120] From: J Johans To: Subject: video switcher controlled via midi Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:25:13 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4759e5740808140600s5b5f1142me506b8b9206917f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <011d01c8fe0b$ee1e5600$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <4759e5740808140600s5b5f1142me506b8b9206917f8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2009 04:25:13.0569 (UTC) FILETIME=[701E6D10:01C96E24] Resent-Message-ID: <9aPxNC.A.JOE.soDYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 04:25:17 +0000 (UTC) --_d7ca67f7-c73d-4123-8c6e-f7939a4b40db_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable aloha im looking for a way to have 3 lipstick cams going into a video switcher th= ats controlled via midi-it would be nice to have some built in transitional= effects/visual effects as well- anyone know of such a box?my pipe dream is= that i could send this "magical box" the same midi message and have it cho= ose a random camera/transitional effect/visual effect each time i know abso= lutely nothing of the subject=2C so even some good websites or product poss= ibilities would be appreciated -would this definately be a thing to run on = a CPU? or do they make hardware devices that may do this?mucho thanksfro _________________________________________________________________ It=92s the same Hotmail=AE. 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Get your account now. = --_d7ca67f7-c73d-4123-8c6e-f7939a4b40db_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 05:06:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 714B53BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Loren Claypool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:05:56 -0600 References: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Mark, fascinating stuff, both video and audio. I love the infrared and speed manipulation on the video and the music had me on the front 3 inches of my chair! Thank you for sharing your inspiring work. All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 05:08:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D6CB3BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 23:55:35 -0500 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: video switcher controlled via midi In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: <011d01c8fe0b$ee1e5600$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <4759e5740808140600s5b5f1142me506b8b9206917f8@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5tIbND.A.7tF._QEYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:08:15 +0000 (UTC) At 10:25 PM -0600 1/3/09, J Johans wrote: >aloha > >im looking for a way to have 3 lipstick cams=20 >going into a video switcher thats controlled via=20 >midi- >it would be nice to have some built in=20 >transitional effects/visual effects as well-=20 >anyone know of such a box? > >my pipe dream is that i could send this "magical=20 >box" the same midi message and have it choose a=20 >random camera/transitional effect/visual effect=20 >each time > >i know absolutely nothing of the subject, so=20 >even some good websites or product possibilities=20 >would be appreciated - > >would this definately be a thing to run on a=20 >CPU? or do they make hardware devices that may=20 >do this? The Edirol V4 comes closest, though it does not=20 do randomness and can only have 3 different=20 transitions and 4 different effects active at one=20 time. (Why the bleep they didn't let us choose=20 these via midi?) > >mucho thanks >fro > > > > > >It's the same Hotmail=AE. If by "same" you mean up=20 >to 70% faster.=20 >Get=20 >your account now. -- Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at=20 http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld "Don't make book, if you cannot cover bets." -- Tom Lehrer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 13:40:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E1583BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=qHXLpmxv5utQdtHDiZQnV2Ymy//CyBQWFHWWT6iZlHg=; b=JWfcDTGrJvAf1+TY5KZISaP0F1onVKRuqjKzQmgo/dbkk2Zh2L6wNzymcdUntfTXK5 1CeWcLM/5HO+fVHXyuKYkmCfBoXUh+RnAlbFe7AisOyEwg3ChcnHJ1/mJXvZ581+oAWL oxiIs0njvW+Lr3FcvmgBk5NHW/yooaiUoLHX4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=qMi5RI659hwLSQlHrWQkto7fv6HjCmyuS2JfuEfmiAIIu8WY+z0MQJSS5DIvaPqfha N5IHTPTavQ+zg+/7gIhZbdfU+5hl6O80DBEib5oQeM9So8pTO3UAHtGDI+VkTxrHn65r c8TcwTq0wtzeobG4LCstDJ9hiqlhzVa2ZGypM= Message-ID: <101191640901040540n3e171208sa323d6ccf08d2d67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 08:40:01 -0500 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901030509g57914597w9f50c5c4e64c68b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_225727_8492358.1231076401689" References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0901030509g57914597w9f50c5c4e64c68b@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 03524f4764368aee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:40:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_225727_8492358.1231076401689 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Has anyone read The Game Players of Titan? If I am remembering the correct PK Dick book, the society there is one in which unconsumed production is so plentiful that little mechanical gnats fly around everywhere to whisper advertisements in people's ears. or something like that. I think that many of us more, umm.... "seasoned", members are straddling the bridge between cultures of creation and cultures of editing. There is so much raw musical material out there, even massive amts under Creative Commons licenses, that it really does make sense to make your art out of remixing it, without ever playing a note on an instrument. So much sense that I've actually never done it, but I think that if I'm going to start using loops I didn't make, I'd rather do it from obscure Creative Commons stuff than pre-made libraries that everyone has and recognizes. Still, there is always a longing in certain branches of the culture for authenticity, providing you have a good singer(s). Instrumental chops that aren't in support of the singer have very narrow application in the current culture, IMO. Warren ------=_Part_225727_8492358.1231076401689 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Has anyone read The Game Players of Titan? If I am remembering the correct PK Dick book, the society there is one in which unconsumed production is so plentiful that little mechanical gnats fly around everywhere to whisper advertisements in people's ears. or something like that.

I think that many of us more, umm.... "seasoned", members are straddling the bridge between cultures of creation and cultures of editing. There is so much raw musical material out there, even massive amts under Creative Commons licenses, that it really does make sense to make your art out of remixing it, without ever playing a note on an instrument. So much sense that I've actually never done it, but I think that if I'm going to start using loops I didn't make, I'd rather do it from obscure Creative Commons stuff than pre-made libraries that everyone has and recognizes.

Still, there is always a longing in certain branches of the culture for authenticity, providing you have a good singer(s). Instrumental chops that aren't in support of the singer have very narrow application in the current culture, IMO.

Warren
------=_Part_225727_8492358.1231076401689-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 13:52:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CD953BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=T2WGiaKi9m/U9bQ8T78y422USglQt9oUmM8jbE1Zun8=; b=NMdvQuokclua2mCa6icIENpryW6QwrFUIrXitCwcHOZ1Nkvu2vXW9Wc5hu8lf+FyZV AQ9IggZxMLsrlIBVJZyZgdELfTEi0pMvF3za72YSkVTNMCCKriZzORodd5MaBgRr0O2d UFpWYMkiZVDaWV0Vcry/shmjdgS1hmC/U0vCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Xt1yUjLh5vGsiq8s+5rOritcri7xOlxXROY5chPAzMbZfMY8DDN/nkGpwnVg4zbqo0 xozPZoC9u0Vim2UJMzIaCo7sKKG0F/FErahAOTh1PIlC14pTBZdYGqIpD/LHmqumi6Iw bhYk8QLMJ8A1syZfJilgx/JMBdKlDitg4u2GI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901040552u77b7030awb70b1095a1f3fdf2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:52:45 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE In-Reply-To: <101191640901040540n3e171208sa323d6ccf08d2d67@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0901030509g57914597w9f50c5c4e64c68b@mail.gmail.com> <101191640901040540n3e171208sa323d6ccf08d2d67@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:52:47 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > straddling the bridge between cultures of creation and cultures of editing LOL - Do you really see a difference? How about "creative editing"? Why should that differ from "creative playing of a C minor scale"? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 13:58:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34A6F3BE79; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=60/CiT6STOHu72NVNjIEqVdvIY/xR/JBxzy6DC4iGgc=; b=jPR9ZgFtFR7+LUCE6/wkq0yhfFmE2qU17P65OxO680Nxj7nsWUExasn9SkzrsnX+Cf 7PtL4RYTVtPuLZ87Y/kVtRl5xZqPCrjY7zkq1NQtXId3cw52b/1LeU5SCvNt353ZE11K fzoCdbzYP7Gk9RzIJ5VCEGRc8S6gPfB9J7394= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=LboROIua2/y0IJoPEOPvq3taUKoJnG2cw3csJmmg0Z5mJMSpqGbDT4VIVXcQfaNFGY sBZqRDgr7Wi5pk1POfAEMpgcDGNNhQtK+iDalsbPZd5wiRc43wCrnVcYuKr0pJ3i4Ga3 liyc6vReEOI8dc0GOpQ67P1I6cVOHGdYciNkM= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901040558we0ba5a7s277a46721bcdcba3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:58:51 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901040552u77b7030awb70b1095a1f3fdf2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0901030509g57914597w9f50c5c4e64c68b@mail.gmail.com> <101191640901040540n3e171208sa323d6ccf08d2d67@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0901040552u77b7030awb70b1095a1f3fdf2@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:58:53 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > LOL - Do you really see a difference? How about "creative editing"? > Why should that differ from "creative playing of a C minor scale"? Just remembered a good example (that I should have mentioned in my last response) and that is the latest album from David Torn. What makes it so great IMHO is not only that the musicians play well and listen well while playing but also that David edited the whole shebang very creatively after the recording session. The trick to succeed in such post performance editing is the ability to work with the emotional content of the music rather than the sonic content. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 14:43:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BD3D3BE80; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4960CAFC.1050700@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 06:43:08 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: CALL PATTY COOPER immediately Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC) I have no fucking idea how that got forwarded to this list. my apologies................it was a query from a potential student. wish me luck on that regard. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 15:14:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B1C23BE80; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=DBpkBGIzsbGb0C6t+VjMElQpxLQAL9DxMjFUPynXkV0=; b=xRYDcCPmYpNKtkLEUmUfSHleO+MQRr2gKUK5dans6Lfh64xS9fgDXfG70pxrZufUDd qSExgsaejQDlv2FbTY4mB3qhHOjeshdS3DLsVu76X58pkILAM3fynooltx9jdQDzEdqg 86wiaISod+DfxEpebT20jLYqw/dlfZOqNfKZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=WktLRun0tCTph2djvHQYyBmjhMQQ8qD4xrsyaPk9mjEz8CQ/SX9o3lYd/cvOGeHeir rCB0JxGq+aRsF0v0cfIVNsFQmUYH2uoyCief0QfZoiDui+mX9M3DTklQXLaPAOOt/LQF E7vLfdPWtJh45yC/6747K+6BUr0fH6TFQOR5U= Message-ID: <101191640901040714t1af6f194j32010a03911855a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 10:14:20 -0500 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901040552u77b7030awb70b1095a1f3fdf2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_226185_17422696.1231082060145" References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0901030509g57914597w9f50c5c4e64c68b@mail.gmail.com> <101191640901040540n3e171208sa323d6ccf08d2d67@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0901040552u77b7030awb70b1095a1f3fdf2@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 097186701e0357da Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:14:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_226185_17422696.1231082060145 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well, gee, since I said it I didn't think it was so ridiculous that it would be risible. And I wasn't saying in the least that editing isn't creative. On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Warren Sirota > wrote: > > straddling the bridge between cultures of creation and cultures of > editing > > > LOL - Do you really see a difference? How about "creative editing"? > Why should that differ from "creative playing of a C minor scale"? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com ------=_Part_226185_17422696.1231082060145 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well, gee, since I said it I didn't think it was so ridiculous that it would be risible. And I wasn't saying in the least that editing isn't creative.

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
> straddling the bridge between cultures of creation and cultures of editing


LOL - Do you really see a difference? How about "creative editing"?
Why should that differ from "creative playing of a C minor scale"?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com




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Warren
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------=_Part_226185_17422696.1231082060145-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 16:40:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E7F73BE82; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BdcEpbBdP1N9lig5lo3csOLWuDyOq+3ajzPnngsFizI=; b=tTg5CiCZOqmCDlW10SjFTD89Odj7UohM0j3MCEcnzO74OzFj8n/S4TBiPwHFc2Tv5H Z0AgJicEtqFGpd8VZi7/MQXPsFVdyQgxQC+F1jVhf2bF2mdATUapPvjm1VntaJDw5+HV EHccpWH0i5SO4Onow1lQKXdAPIo7jaorNJW/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Aj5oRu3YxFqiupKD2uF0xqELjaYVfQFYtLE9lgLtq59dvD5Ims/3BpmqMstJ5+2pm3 NlWDawauQKAGrm75IgJ2kP2mM93sMlL2KXFSjxJp87HsGDS50yBxFoaFpoH73thdCew2 AFe8yK2YT4OAGieA8tM6TmEg2j0CUSZ7NqnxU= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901040840l12381bbaq148c3dab65c99334@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:40:38 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Syncopath Specifications/Comparison (Was: New Software Looper) In-Reply-To: <477dfd520901011408m613c3cc5o78a98b9992542f4b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <477dfd520901011408m613c3cc5o78a98b9992542f4b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_41ZM.A.WFD.HaOYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi Lasse, Thank you for explaining about Syncopath. I updated my info chart now. I'm not sure though what you mean by "Time stretching: Yes, but pitch changes with the tempo." ..but I will check it out as soon as I find time to play around with Syncopath. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Lasse juul Kolding wrote: > Syncopath Performer > is an overdubbing looper with 3 parallel tracks, per track undo and stable > synchronization both as master and slave. > > As master, the BPM/Sync is derived from the length of your first loop and 2 > settings: time signature and number of bars. > The next tracks made are automatically in perfect synchronization with this. > If you tweak the master BPM and/or the relative speed of each tracks, > everything stays together. > > Using the standalone utility SyncVSTMaster you can get a host like Ableton > Live to follow along as well, using MIDI clock output from SyncVSTMaster. > There's a video in the Media section on juvul.com showing this in action. > A short instruction on how to set it up was posted earlier today. > > Requirements: > You need a free version of Pluggo to run it. > Pluggo Runtime or Pluggo Junior will work. > Java and Quicktime are also needed. > > Recommendations: > Go through the built-in tutorial found on the logo screen of the looper! > > > Specifications according to Per's Comparison Chart: > > Overdub: > Yes > > Feedback: > No (quite easy to set up in Host) > > Undo: > Yes. One level per track. > > Multiply: > No, although the 3 tracks can have different lengths. > > Quantize: > Yes > > Reverse loop: > Yes > > MIDI: > Yes > > Presets: > Yes by the host appl > > Sync: > MIDI Clock, internally by first recorded set as master track. As slave, the > host has per sample control of recording and playback. > > Cut n Paste slices: > No > > Pitch transposing: > Each track can play half speed, normal speed, double speed and quadruple > speed both forward and in reverse. > > Time stretching: > Yes, but pitch changes with the tempo. > > Tap tempo: > Yes by the host appl > > Max numbers of loops, linear: > Many! Depending on computer spec's. > > Multiple loops in parallel: > Yes. Synchronous or poly-rhythmic loops is possible. > > Audio channels, Tracks: > 3 tracks. Stereo or mono, mono uses less RAM. > > Stereo recording: > Yes > > Built-in storage option: > No > > Can run on battery: > Yes, if laptop battery. > > > > > Cheers, > Lasse > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Rainer Straschill > wrote: >> >> Hi Lasse, >> >> would it be possible that you give a quick rundown of the software's >> features (and requirements) to us? >> >> As for features, a starting point would be to provide the information >> for Per's comparison chart: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php - >> and be sure to send that info to Per as well for him to include it in >> his reference. >> >> The way I understand it: >> * it's a multi-track looper (meaning it has multiple loops running >> in parallel, which can be muted/unmuted/recorded to independently) >> * everything is in sync to a master clock >> * first loop capability (the first loop track sets the speed - how >> does this work? Does it send MIDI clock to Live which is then synced >> to it and provides the tempo back to the looper?) >> * there are no adjustable feedback/secondary feedback settings >> * overdub is possible >> * you need a (free?) runtime version of a software called "Pluggo" >> * adjusting running loops to tempo changes happens by varispeeding >> (i.e. the playback speed changes just with a tape) >> * everything is MIDI controllable >> >> What else is there to know? >> >> Looks like an interesting piece of software for many of us! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rainer >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 17:35:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77C9A3BE7C; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=KWG38dcyuqT7JTP7dsgiMcVjqcgXXFQKa4g1hDAArYs=; b=g/+AdsMf8iHtAVD4SGkFN3rpzwI4zCxqCMRi8E3DGCZ2IUMAQBlrKeHBIFlyRP/hkR uwMPymiO7WFlRZ/QHJMwVxJx2hYZBoL6LhWTnq+U09FtsZ88XkSU4jJVckVnimPyadQ6 EnLeoLGfoQHbDDnO9wRi6jmb3mgHl0E1/7R7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GkThSvPyYgczII/D68JnTU+0oRsiaD7SV2lb+nZ6JB29NLEYswYBBgDSSdFzL2HhxP fGxXpLS8a9VivxbUIW8JvGkAPahdTslZn27UzUu8ObDqKYi/JsgeOIkuNqiIoegJFrp3 NuZUGPCpirKLbpNX5wDT2aOxgfwstyi7hsKiI= Message-ID: <7334ca1b0901040934w66026366lcf3a4466f298d552@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:34:59 +0100 From: "Rainer Straschill" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Syncopath Specifications/Comparison (Was: New Software Looper) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Per, you asked: > I'm not sure though what you mean by "Time stretching: Yes, but pitch changes with the tempo." As far as I can tell from the video demo: it's a varispeed-kinda function (similar to rate shift in Mobius or the tape delay-sytle speed control in the Repeater). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 17:46:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17A153BE7C; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mIQPxOnk55XWWklU2v8nhimSYuz2GjYx2oG3y1bUk/o=; b=EnX6ppcA26i+0AkbMN5vEohfOU4mCklxuxA6ljGuvN0FonGi09cZoVmNioottfL+ur SdsFza7nWPo3z7QdKbZgN+DFi3pL6faWpbXH0FMMgcn12zYCh8WgrQbg0G8t4QAw6Sow gFehCk2RqZ2XQqFydizLGW9FUAkP5t7/XI2YQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IX8UQDEHrCGoKlMCQxLqYeJxRhy9w+/nAOGgoTbl8J56R/iiAXRzw91rAScbPo/ow3 LGgqyETFclrjCMiLEoqOPywlWC4iJCNjJvAcjCTkWfH0NnZks3wJMR1cgmO+vBcMbEwQ ig/WwG08u2YjSzyTTqNOHVTNFI9SXm7/omIEA= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901040946p3cb75b9ega14eab1c0c5ae2e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:46:22 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Syncopath Specifications/Comparison (Was: New Software Looper) In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0901040934w66026366lcf3a4466f298d552@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7334ca1b0901040934w66026366lcf3a4466f298d552@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9CiGjD.A.X7G.uXPYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:46:22 +0000 (UTC) > Per, you asked: >> I'm not sure though what you mean by "Time stretching: Yes, but pitch changes with the tempo." > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > As far as I can tell from the video demo: it's a varispeed-kinda > function (similar to rate shift in Mobius or the tape delay-sytle > speed control in the Repeater). That would mean that no time-stretching algorithm is engaged in the process. 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  --_12345_-------=_234A37E.3373391D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 18:49:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2E1B3BE7E; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Per Boysen'" References: <66f9cc1e0901030931m469ff426jbb4c52d5b32ccfe9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: OT: Vinyl sales double in last year !ZOMG! Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 10:49:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aclt4DqNbEpf8FDvT2m5Mn2nOpNHewAubCGA In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901030931m469ff426jbb4c52d5b32ccfe9@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:49:41 +0000 (UTC) It's obvious to me that you have your work cut out for you in the New Year. You better get busy if you are going to catch the wave of the great Vinyl Revival of '09 that music historians will twitter about in years to come................................................ I suggest: 1. Building a new wing on your apartment for your new turntable. 2. Using Auralex speaker isolation platforms to put your custom designed hardwood turntable enclosure on. 3. Buying a good turntable, and don't settle for any cheap crap either, this looks like it will do the trick http://www.laser-turntable.com/Turntables/Laser/TheLaserTurntable.htm Actually this last suggestion might eliminate the need for the Auralex stuff, which would leave you more money to spend on an exotic wood upgrade for your custom cabinet, I suggest flamed Honduran Mahogany, though Hawaiian Koa would be a nice choice as well. 4. Rob a bank, sell a kidney, become a male prostitute, your going to need an extra source of income to finance these things. Good luck, Bill -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 9:31 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl sales double in last year !ZOMG! Interesting! Good thing I never threw away those stacks of LPs. Now I just need to afford a turntable. That might happen in 2009! :-) Oh... and then I need to secure an area here in the apartment for the thing to live. No free space available but I guess that can be fixed in 2009... Oh... then I need to phase out vibrations from us all walking on the floor. Old house here. Or maybe I could hang the grammo from the ceiling! Oh no, the neighbor above us also walks on the wiggly floor. Ok, may have to think about something else then. Maybe I should rip them to mp3's.... ooops! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com (starting to remember why I gave up in finding a good diamond and bought a CD player) On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > More news on retail music trends: > > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxo nomyName=Storage&articleId=9124699&taxonomyId=19&pageNumber=1 > > > TH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 19:10:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FF9A3BE7B; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'mark francombe'" References: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:10:39 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aclt4DqIzoEfOApOR0yrFdbHzGu5jAAvjrng In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Hey, That was brilliant Mark, it has inspired me to put my Gr30 and Repeater back in to action. I used to write arpeggios on my Gr30 that = would drive the repeater tracks, and I had stopped using those strategies at = one point when I decided to pair down the complexity of my rig and make an effort to learn my LP-1 in greater depth. I'm glad I made that choice as = it got me out of certain strategy ruts I had gotten in to with the RPTR. = After hearing your piece with the video accompaniment I want to hook my stuff = back up and get jiggy with it.=20 Thanks Bill =20 -----Original Message----- From: mark francombe [mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 7:09 AM To: loopers-delight Subject: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo Hi all, I just finished a new and VERY noisy track last night, using my new (old) Roland EF303 effects box. It seemed like it was completely wrong music to accompany a couple of infrared video experiments I did a few weeks ago, so I slapped it on as a soundtrack: Its called Making People http://vimeo.com/2702907 The vid was shot in complete darkness, using a prettyy low quality panasonic camera, I love the look of infrared, it seems so.. er.. waxy?? The music was inspired partly by the recent DISTORTION thread, and sound source being baritone guitar thru Bitrman (all knobs on MAX - Bit reducer setting) and a voicey kind of patch I created on my Roland GR30, inspired by Simeons cool voicey sounds on his recent Vimeo post. The looper is obviously edp, and half way thru it is pitch shifted by the EF303, as I also record to the repeater, which is getting CC=B4s also from the EF303, to kinda randomly mute and unmute the Repeaters tracks. As the pitch processing and the muting are coming from the same controler (the analog sequencer on th EF303) the 2 loopers blend very well, and you cant really tell the difference. Be warned.. its hardly pretty, and somewhat harsh, as I alos chose a very short metallic reverb for the overall mix, where I usually like a soft and long verb... enjoy... a bit!!! Mark --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 19:27:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B6143BE7F; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=IidR/OgzFEg9XeYyHpikUl5iMbuMAuAn1VwbMIbdqw8=; b=LM4dpps9dzjx4zQ8D/gbycwgMd+OFBd25lQ5HGsxzsI3juQi77XNM5Z6T4aVAQj1vK CVZbtQtbLGO6tMyEh4rE4Px13oD7flNm/T6eUizyf0ai2+K+wKXuZDilq5sWqCZxzWCo otAnICOleBIZe2A/fjaH4VHFjJZGLWqDNHwrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wqOqtsh3Njue9zL6mqO2mfrXD6MBxMsVnTljDzFD1W773lDnySipWoU8FVhpTU6FhN XPIIhF6wO6SSq1r9QgIn5m/krvjN8AF1q52URdb4VWDdv+kyYQ+lwDKOFlEnSqWagUuv uq7jUuAE2GJrSQVikglret2yNcPxMRbA541Ls= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:27:00 -0800 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE In-Reply-To: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:27:01 +0000 (UTC) I think if you're looking for earthshattering trends of the last 2 decades, you're not going to find them on most terrestrial radio stations. The music industry has settled on a pretty cost-effective model: rather than trying to guess which music people are going to like, they just put out stuff and do all they can to see that people don't hear anything else. Most of the radio stations across the country have the exact same playlist. If you listen to a pop station in Los Angeles, you're going to hear the exact same stuff in Maine. When I think of things that happened in the 2000's: --Glitch pop: The idea that a computer can be an instrument, and that sequences and samples you program at home can be the new "folk" music: The Books, Tujiko Noriko, Tuung --Indie Hip-Hop has grown by leaps and bounds this decade, and now has a completely different identity than the mainstream 2-notes-on-a-$10,000-keyboard stuff on the radio. Take a listen to the record labels Stones Throw (Madlib, J Dilla, Oh No, Aloe Blacc, Guilty Simpson, etc) and Definitive Jux (El-P, Aesop Rock, Cannibal Ox, Mr. Lif, etc). Another collective, Anticon, put out several albums of their more avant-garde take on it earlier in the decade, including the excellent first Clouddead record. --Grime as a genre didn't become as popular in the US as it allegedly did in England, but it's usually characterized as a funky "dirty" combination between dancehall (reggae), rap and techno, often using "affordable" equipment: MIA, Dizzie Rascal, Lady Sovereign --New services on the internet, such as myspace and iodalliance.com make it easy for independent artists to get just as much online distribution (even more) than major label artists get. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From stellamaries@universia.cl Sun Jan 4 20:21:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3409 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:21:10 UTC Received: from daganzo.mx1.universia.net (daganzo.mx1.universia.net [195.149.210.98]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA3E3BE72; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.universia.net (baterno.univ.corp [192.168.41.103]) by daganzo.mx1.universia.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F2BBE1E1B24; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:24:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from 41.207.220.121 (SquirrelMail authenticated user stellamaries@universia.cl) by mail.universia.net with HTTP; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:24:19 -0300 (CLST) Message-ID: <61797.41.207.220.121.1231097059.squirrel@mail.universia.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:24:19 -0300 (CLST) Subject: Dearest Beloved One, From: "stellamaries" To: klean.micheal@yahoo.ca Reply-To: stellamaries79@yahoo.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 20:53:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F1703BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=Lx7psa4+3efTp//KEzD2ljFGsSgM1gScOJfCRGztnjM=; b=fYkKKmyhcOp1XeqCP+lJyNYXBetnll5x3af5RtA7fEd8D2++PIU2acC4LA3aqymiDG eeuv/iocx3uk30VJe0upeqbp7oHa6L31zoT+AiITUxAXSe7uc+v4H4T99/IYirPkAuE+ 1NlZjvH+Um/EGTOaY4M45rm6g2AptqweydkMo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=wY0kagLY86o+iK/7avhIopJbocFPJ65424z/cfzjrYuI8vda3Hg+IktfkjgGzBjAVa d0XcUegTGiVUhJ+wKDeQi+oh+AOkw6ksB2KhXCKZnVDAZ0FldvdNjCM0oUlBMgbrYkcW nGbBToinQ7ogFRKQ9h+ialUKSqJz5QKwLYenI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901041253h3f2caec1tc1d663bc34befce2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:53:39 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: True UMAD multi touch pad controller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:53:40 +0000 (UTC) This is revolutionary! Combining digiatal and analog technology. Seems vary PLAYABLE in this video,. http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/12/31/intimate-control-multi-touch-new-models-and-what-2009-is-really-about/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 21:22:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43EB73BE78; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=QYmzFfNxi4IrmErLN24pbEbrBkqQosE42NNH/bPWe3o=; b=WOchhsfmcv4RUYjVtQs1W0JKHucAP0QkEDAkoKR6tcV5vGrSojlF+LN596gFFGQED9 EmpXObnM4GXht4CEdpWrolJhuRk+edjzWG2/uqywMalWu+yJF3qqPgAjIjfoQ2GZy8ZJ AjkWqWrQ9wBoAUxKsHyP9Y1kEFYnaPvf5TL6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=x5aLGpsXoRw4d5LmXL8ot8bNbG2/gEkBn2q1ed4oJXyWM2BUMSsHn5217jqE+dM+Z/ Yy9ohs8UHrH9NfGWMAAJ3F+98Qx2Hx4QD+iwu99rdIzlQ8Os8m5z8mwHsuwen0ND3L4J DMXkQVRRQuSPwAiamyOO6efuoKe64onbgz3Jg= Message-ID: <4961288B.5060809@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:22:19 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FAHEY References: <20081228221931.M16311@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20081228221931.M16311@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Stefan Tiedje Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > The file has downloaded each time > and each time I use the provided password at the bottom of the page > to unRAR them, it tells me that the files are corrupted. I had the same problem 'till I typed sonic-youth.blogspot.com by hand into my unrar application, and then droped the file on it. That did the trick for me... -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 21:47:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 019613BE85; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 779 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:47:31 UTC Message-ID: <49612B60.9040909@unguitar.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:34:24 +0100 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: True UMAD multi touch pad controller References: <66f9cc1e0901041253h3f2caec1tc1d663bc34befce2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901041253h3f2caec1tc1d663bc34befce2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:47:31 +0000 (UTC) yes Per, nice found ! this could really be a nice new instrument. Did anyone try a Tenori-On already ? different thing but still an interesting result of a side-thinking strategy. best for all the year, luca Per Boysen ha scritto: > This is revolutionary! Combining digiatal and analog technology. Seems > vary PLAYABLE in this video,. > > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/12/31/intimate-control-multi-touch-new-models-and-what-2009-is-really-about/ > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release Date: 04/01/2009 16.32 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 21:52:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8DD83BE86; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=79eFBVbSD0HsqLEyhdcH1P2cKKmtcOfr5OZf2Yl3XtY=; b=ROHX+j+Rmlcw4rDoidFBXAlnfEHj3XYKfGm1BeUBArFvcX75yQIpneueIDmZ3L55V9 W/ScWBt3HDjQNOhZd+mSgh0+mbUBY0U0uhMlKd9KKRBgh93LpLI0octQDVW3HNetUJe1 BWGSZeBX+hNO+z5t6UqkK6CXvOxbhjQOmnGcc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=NhGrG7JnsT0otYeLSoFOIu9Z9sZ7XTEAn3KCS10tjoXHtum4vx2+C9Z/Mt+VOqwXk0 TQDOMuxPd7kGWeCR74QpZV7fRwuPrc3Mrfed1/C7Vw8e3tA4bzZSzzmxvRBdJg1K7TE8 /UG03zetQHxHprf7VOZveLNdXcHtDQ8ZIq8gE= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0901041352y732a18f1if129cdf5e872830d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:52:05 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CALL PATTY COOPER immediately In-Reply-To: <4960CAFC.1050700@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4960CAFC.1050700@cruzio.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1b9562afd6027b5e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:52:08 +0000 (UTC) No worried Rick.. I called her, as you asked, but had nothing to say.. I coughed a bit... growled like a dog, gave her my best dolphin impression.. and hung up... apparently she was touched by my show, and called back.. we=B4re going out next thursday... dont tell the wife.. M On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I have no fucking idea how that got forwarded to this list. > > my apologies................it was a query from a potential student. > > wish me luck on that regard. > > Rick > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 22:05:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C66B3BE7C; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <66F79D4E-3EC0-4ADE-87F8-C59621F36C60@glasswing.com> From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--603546550 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New distorted, noisy looping video on Vimeo Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:05:23 -0800 References: <9ab0c76f0901030708m6fa168d2x1efd08ca5ac0e966@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:05:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--603546550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yeah. Nice. Music and images. The only way to go nowadays R On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Loren Claypool wrote: > Mark, fascinating stuff, both video and audio. I love the infrared > and speed manipulation on the video and the music had me on the > front 3 inches of my chair! Thank you for sharing your inspiring work. > > All the best, > > Loren Claypool > genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music > www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there > > > richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com --Apple-Mail-1--603546550 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah. Nice.  Music and = images.  The only way to go = nowadays

R
On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:05 PM, = Loren Claypool wrote:

Mark, = fascinating stuff, both video and audio. I love the infrared and speed = manipulation on the video and the music had me on the front 3 inches of = my chair! Thank you for sharing your inspiring work.

All the = best,

Loren Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar = music
www.lorenclaypool.com and = links from there




richard sales
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= --Apple-Mail-1--603546550-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 22:36:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3008B3BE7E; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: OT Gear for sale Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:36:24 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C96E79.D539E850" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcluvOAONrjeToqqRF68Z8f9XEVtXQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <6IJEsD.A.sY.qnTYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:36:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C96E79.D539E850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gang, Just thought I=92d post this stuff I=92m getting rid of that is = redundant to me or seldom used.. All items are in excellent working condition. =20 Roland GFC-50 foot controller $60 these were designed to use with the V-amps have 5 midi preset switches = and an A/B switch to toggle between 1-5, and 6-10, for each bank, 10 banks, = of 10 pc presets It also has four =BC inch CC ports on the back with = fixed CC #s (2 EXP #7,#16, and two momentary#64,and #80) and two =BC inch bank = shift jacks as well, It can run on standard boss PSA=92s or 6 AA batteries. I = got it thinking that I=92d use it as a small portable controller for my LP-1 before moving to the Gordius Lil Giant. I=92ve used it twice, and the = previous owner rarely used it, so its had very little switch wear and few dings = with Velcro on the bottom... It weighs 3 lbs. 9 oz.=20 =20 MidiMan midi sport 8x8 $100 midi patch bay with USB, SIMPTE, and Mac/windows driver CD. I bought it = from a friend for $200 who was struggling financially , and I never used it. Might require downloading drivers from M-Audio. =20 Duncan Shape Shifter tremolo pedal, $90 This is a great sounding very versatile tremolo with tap tempo, wave = /shape control and a wide range of speeds. I have other tremolos including the = real thing, and a variety on my M-13 as well so sayonara shape shifter. With Velcro on the bottom =20 Audio Technica wireless guitar transmitter/ receiver 600 freeway series $100 modular design can be adapted to headset or hand held mic as well. = Comes with =BC inch jack for guitar or bass. Rarely used =20 I=92ll have to figure out the freight cost, but unless I know you I = would be reluctant to ship outside the US. I have a PayPal account. Thanks Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C96E79.D539E850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Gang,

=A0Just thought I’d post this stuff I’m = getting rid of that is redundant to me or seldom used.. All items are in = excellent working condition.

 

=A0Roland GFC-50 foot controller = $60

=A0these were designed to use with the V-amps have 5 = midi preset switches and an A/B switch to toggle between 1-5, and 6-10, for each = bank, =A010 banks, of 10 pc presets =A0It also has four =A0=BC inch CC ports on the = back with fixed CC #s (2 EXP #7,#16, and two momentary#64,and #80) and two =BC = inch bank shift jacks as well, It can run on standard boss PSA’s =A0or 6 AA = batteries. I got it thinking that I’d use it as a small portable controller = for my LP-1 before moving to the Gordius Lil Giant. I’ve used it twice, and = the previous owner rarely used it, so its had very little switch wear and = few dings with Velcro on the bottom... It weighs 3 lbs. 9 oz. =

 

MidiMan midi sport 8x8 = $100

midi patch bay with USB, SIMPTE, and Mac/windows = driver CD. I bought it from a friend =A0for $200 who was struggling financially , = and I never used it.

=A0Might require downloading drivers from = M-Audio.

 

Duncan Shape Shifter tremolo pedal, = $90

This is a great sounding very versatile tremolo with = =A0tap tempo, wave /shape control and a wide range of speeds. I have other = tremolos including the real thing, and a variety on my M-13 as well so sayonara = shape shifter. =A0With Velcro on the bottom

 

Audio Technica wireless guitar transmitter/ receiver = 600 freeway series =A0=A0$100

=A0modular design can be adapted to headset or hand = held mic as well. Comes with =BC inch jack for guitar or bass. Rarely = used

 

I’ll have to figure out the freight cost, but = unless I know you I would be reluctant to ship outside the US. =A0I have a PayPal = account.

Thanks

=A0Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C96E79.D539E850-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 22:50:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F1473BE7F; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Luca Formentini'" , References: <49612B60.9040909@unguitar.com> Subject: RE: True UMAD multi touch pad controller Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:50:05 -0800 Message-ID: <1E78B9AEEA3441F0818B4F6B898138B9@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcluvOsHt+V7Z6IORn2JkYSfoQM+HQAAZ2lQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <49612B60.9040909@unguitar.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Got to try the Tenori-On once, it is very cool but I'm not sure it would appeal as much to foot fetishists like Per. :-) Bill -----Original Message----- From: Luca Formentini [mailto:luca@unguitar.com] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 1:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: True UMAD multi touch pad controller yes Per, nice found ! this could really be a nice new instrument. Did anyone try a Tenori-On already ? different thing but still an interesting result of a side-thinking strategy. best for all the year, luca Per Boysen ha scritto: > This is revolutionary! Combining digiatal and analog technology. Seems > vary PLAYABLE in this video,. > > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/12/31/intimate-control-multi-touch-new-mo dels-and-what-2009-is-really-about/ > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release Date: 04/01/2009 16.32 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 23:39:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6925E3BE7E; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=DzJof95NllykNxnx4pz9re1bouLFkupAo3W6DgjzQH2ZSoNZGD9HxajuUFM6pELrvFUHepv+TuIe/hwCLM5Lq0xCl5sNaB41GSg0+IRE/aD2MBluWm6y/rrXos6pnEmKG2p00dK9tZTSclSbuCGa3dkIY3xjfPfGFpntjMsS2K4=; X-YMail-OSG: 6KyV8bEVM1kNB46jHxrjctuP4TumPgwmLCfCAJlgjeFxWoHA04ZdDHiEJBFA.f_DtRKeqPT9j8XRuIPyLjDjLDRkgBqJScPO8fDED8bkj2w.syIQ.ZTXxjamBXvpoRwkzpMn15JbnsiiXr2yEKTNSilniBaNjTeKhQOBwhESzU6AQfMTVlr6D0yigxWt2avCFQUq2QKH_IhY8N_NP0vnAeoxOfAEMh72Aw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:39:10 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Marshall Reply-To: agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com Subject: sonic youth and computer sex LOL To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4961288B.5060809@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-217080662-1231112350=:74919" Message-ID: <432951.74919.qm@web51511.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:39:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-217080662-1231112350=:74919 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry for being a caveman, but I have no idea what the unRAR app. is.=A0=A0= I used the sonic youth site to get a list of their wonderful tunings and ma= ybe a few other tips but as to the intercomupter sex thing, I am quite clue= ss.=A0=A0 LMAO=A0=A0 I hope you found some useful stuff there eventually.= =A0=20 Marc Marshall =A0 =A0 If you have no=A0other better thing to do with=20 your time feel=A0free to=A0visit my website sans blog =A0 =A0=A0=A0 http://www.myspace.com/atripthroughthestars --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Stefan Tiedje wrote: From: Stefan Tiedje Subject: Re: FAHEY To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 4:22 PM Rick Walker schrieb: > The file has downloaded each time and each time I use the provided password at the bottom of the page to unRAR them, it tells me that the file= s are corrupted. I had the same problem 'till I typed sonic-youth.blogspot.com by hand into my unrar application, and then droped the file on it. That did the trick fo= r me... -- Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder =0A=0A=0A --0-217080662-1231112350=:74919 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sorry for being a caveman, but I have no idea= what the unRAR app. is.  I used the sonic youth site to get a li= st of their wonderful tunings and maybe a few other tips but as to the inte= rcomupter sex thing, I am quite cluess.   LMAO   I hope= you found some useful stuff there eventually. 

Marc Marshall<= /EM>
 
 
If you have no o= ther better thing to do with
your time feel f= ree to visit my website sans blog
 


--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Stefan Tiedje <stefantie= dje@googlemail.com> wrote:
From: Stefan Tiedje <stefantiedje@googlemail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: FAHEY
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date= : Sunday, January 4, 2009, 4:22 PM

Rick Walker schrieb:
> The file has downloaded each time and each time I use the provided
password at the bottom of the page to unRAR them, it tells me that the file=
s are
corrupted.

I had the same problem 'till I typed sonic-youth.blogspot.com by hand into
my unrar application, and then droped the file on it. That did the trick fo=
r
me...

-- Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x--
--_____-----------|-----------|--
--(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
-- _|_)----|-----()--------------
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=0A=0A --0-217080662-1231112350=:74919-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jan 4 23:52:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1B513BE81; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fd471c9d-2612-4ac4-8cc9-89407e1824c8_" X-Originating-IP: [76.254.77.158] From: samba - To: Subject: Defining cultural moment editing Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:52:21 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090104220528.09B683BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090104220528.09B683BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2009 23:52:22.0270 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C7A31E0:01C96EC7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:52:26 +0000 (UTC) --_fd471c9d-2612-4ac4-8cc9-89407e1824c8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 "> straddling the bridge between cultures of creation and cultures of editi= ng" =20 =20 LOL - Do you really see a difference? How about "creative editing"? Why should that differ from "creative playing of a C minor scale"? I think an important distinction can be made between the experiential mod= e of making a an artistic gesture=2Cwhich has certain interior flow qualiti= es=2Cthe creative impulse is moving from within the artist to the outer wor= ld through whatever medium is (or media are)employed. (Media come between o= ther things=2Cin this case creator and audience/vidience=2Creader=2C diner= =2Cwhat have you) No I'm not talking about merely executing scales=2Cnonet= heless doing so causes those sounds to sound=2Csuch an act is not editorial= . The Editorial mode involves standing outside of already created bits=2Ca= nd making choices about what will or won't serve the criteria the editor is= attempting=2Cwether that criteria is known in advance or not.=20 Both modes can be creative- or not. I know some people who can play and m= ix at the same time=2Cbut mixing a whole ensemble while performing even a r= ote instrumental part is pretty difficult. Unless one Loops. The Jazz pianist Marylou Williams is said to have been able to comp with= the left hand while writing a chart for another piece with the right hand = and leading the band. I don't think I know anyone with that kind of ambidex= terity. There's a guy=2CMatt Butler who does the Everyone Orchestra=2Cat festival= s=2Che gets a whole posse of players from other bands=2C puts them all onst= age and conducts=2Cas live improv. He has a whiteboard he'll give a key=2Co= r a quality. He shows it to the audience too=2Cand conducts dynamics=2Centr= ances=2Cexits etc with his hands/body. It's brilliant =2Ccause you get all = that energy enthusiasm of jamming with dynamics=2Ccontrast and transition y= ou would never get without the conductor editing I could call what Matt do= es Live Editing "> straddling the bridge between cultures of creation and cultures of editi= ng" =20 =20 LOL - Do you really see a difference? How about "creative editing"? Why should that differ from "creative playing of a C minor scale"? =20 --_fd471c9d-2612-4ac4-8cc9-89407e1824c8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B =3B 

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= --_fd471c9d-2612-4ac4-8cc9-89407e1824c8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 00:06:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40EFE3BE7E; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=O93FzoodCyPUO39xA30sIfytpZfZ3TUnDeRYyLSYTxs=; b=PazRYfGGvf1+QW0fVau3xwFYPgPJbbJjI7h947QBUJqW9zL/bZCaftd6TNcVbBH0Bj LRvegG8iiO9nZPorN+8AWE6C6toXtmo0xTnjX/+UKhkYEOj5t+1mzcOk8P+T0QNOBDAK N9Zw6sRRiBeZXrzhxSQiHNyqYfKfUooFFyYb8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=NOeBl6YBq0o2p7iHkM5QtqVrXzocq3+TSjBoUptPWQI7R+9XVTWC37niYDw3EeaRBm CrwW7JmmAQYl1QOjRG04PDqJY9fEcCxndWSErbG0xi8eD0NcI2RoIRlPB/je0/6iqCZu kPVCdKZSocN7IBSTRYQw3zLDV49wh4zV1qqHc= Message-ID: <588ce11d0901041606m50cbb4d0v59f422953a77bfee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:06:44 -0800 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FAHEY In-Reply-To: <4961288B.5060809@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081228221931.M16311@cruzio.com> <4961288B.5060809@googlemail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Stefan! It's also here if this link works better for anyone: http://rapidshare.com/files/179854353/1998_-_John_Fahey___Jim_O_Rourke_-_Li= ve_at_WNUR_Studios.zip On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Rick Walker schrieb: >> >> The file has downloaded each time and each time I use the provided >> password at the bottom of the page to unRAR them, it tells me that the f= iles >> are corrupted. > > I had the same problem 'till I typed sonic-youth.blogspot.com by hand int= o > my unrar application, and then droped the file on it. That did the trick = for > me... > > -- > Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder > > --=20 Art Simon simart@null.net myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 00:24:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAA023BE79; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=4a63lsr0SOMIaRocFxi4aup73PLjHoP7i7U5zJxHDdk=; b=dGp8PbTQHB9ePVhIsiKrI/K806KL8qJJwmBQM5mpbi9fi/tRu3FEOjNI70VyC6wrGg dZ8Q+AWR1akY657pbovFJJ6/V3s9/hxq6NdSvkW7NICoDWi5VNAkBHuE0ViudH0h2XZK 4Q2QyN2JtjLUvmRVzIVUcuNjxvG69h59OKLWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IG1rbDBtuM4nBpQdny9FjYA9z/yPL8NfhVu2DHwGqI20GFSdaJVOEUIyDcqFJXkEVu Opp3cYULo/iuBxsoSB8ZqX8U5qNZ90pyLaXdnEzyt5tEqDWVX9Z780MWa8spydE1Dwx3 XYFD7HH6gk2gGGMcGJkwkWuufmg4nOxH96Dlg= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901041624u4922626fx3363cc73cc0bc913@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 01:24:02 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Digital music news links aggregated for those so inclined MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Good night, folks! Sleeptime at my half or the globe. Aggregated some useful digi music links for those of you so inclined: http://is.gd/eyQ For years I've been using a local RSS (and more) news aggregator/reader software to stay on top of the eruptive development in internet music, digital music distribution, new music gear and related stuff. Now I picked some favorite channels and put them up for everyone in in the right margin of the page linked above. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 00:26:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2ED6B3BE7C; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0e2e6556-064c-4f3f-91ec-f2fa219ae244_" X-Originating-IP: [76.254.77.158] From: samba - To: Subject: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:26:32 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090104220528.09B683BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090104220528.09B683BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2009 00:26:32.0918 (UTC) FILETIME=[42C23F60:01C96ECC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:26:34 +0000 (UTC) --_0e2e6556-064c-4f3f-91ec-f2fa219ae244_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A pattern I've observed has been that the new thing coalesces about 4th o= r 5th year of decade=2Cbecomes visible to the media by the 7th year=2Cand = is mainstream at the beginning of the next decade. As in Psychedlic/blues r= ock in the 60s. (amazing how often I see early 70s bands/tunes reffered to = as 60s )punk in the 70s .what happend in the 80s I think of as digital dece= ntralization (McLuhn was right The Media is the massage.). Even as Grunge = World Music ( which really happened in the 80s) and HipHop=2Cand House musi= c played out more or less the previous pattern=2C in Seattle which was the= youth culture Mecca of the 90s because of Grunge =2Cwhat was floushing was= a smorgasbord of all the music/style that had ever been trendy before. a = generation of classicists in a sense=2Cbut with no particular identity of t= heir own.=20 I've been really puzzled by 00s. There are all sorts of things happening= =2Cthat seem more mainstrem than the cool stuff Matt mentions- from faux wh= itetrash Americana to Cabaret to Steampunk =2C but there are a million dif= ferent tribes and nothing has dominated stylistically so much as in previou= s decades.I have no idea what's penetrating mainstream media. =20 --_0e2e6556-064c-4f3f-91ec-f2fa219ae244_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B A pattern I've observed has been that the new thing coalesces abou= t 4th or 5th =3B year of decade=2Cbecomes visible to the media by the 7= th year=2Cand is mainstream at the beginning of the next decade. As in Psyc= hedlic/blues rock in the 60s. (amazing how often I see early 70s bands/tune= s reffered to as 60s )punk in the 70s .what happend in the 80s I think of a= s digital decentralization (McLuhn was right The Media is the massage.). Ev= en as =3B Grunge World Music ( which really happened in the 80s) and Hi= pHop=2Cand House music played out =3B more or less the previous pattern= =2C in Seattle which was the youth culture Mecca of the 90s because of Grun= ge =2Cwhat was floushing was a smorgasbord of all the music/style =3B t= hat had ever been trendy before. a generation of classicists in a sense=2Cb= ut with no particular identity of their own.
 =3BI've been really p= uzzled by =3B 00s. There are all sorts of things happening=2Cthat seem = more mainstrem than the cool stuff Matt mentions- from faux whitetrash Amer= icana to Cabaret to Steampunk =2C =3B but there are a million different= tribes and nothing has dominated stylistically so much as in previous deca= des.I have no idea what's penetrating mainstream media.
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= --_0e2e6556-064c-4f3f-91ec-f2fa219ae244_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 00:43:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B67DD3BE7E; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=PLgtLatf7Ve/ZMIOrIn8FgupawOCp3p45+GCeZb1TdM=; b=gm/zemfzjnu1ICIuk2eGNEUpFelPbC1dUFJ2Wm1AmicqH2qTch+Dzkadi0ksvWFxdu GrsqJbJgxCdwsgYbBHKgYPN0RNV+oxd/nxr5ziZSJAr1ESNbTgvoyTCYe/YFoT0T4140 WAPqMOOVeAtFQ1SQRdwfHs0PXYRTjpdIahWbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=W6OPYhL81WpCgySRhk+xIE2L9rU/jaEoN4GNZYntFtmXsSdDmzMgCjQfrf/A3oOGOJ TUDMtLADEnoVxyXTWLOBnc2VjZ7lqFz21A9QrdLUyGgLc5S80jrnoXTTQ8P7DdUxqtrH j009VK3ImKs5hD6xn6wbkQtntuXEI8divlsRc= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901041624u4922626fx3363cc73cc0bc913@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0901041624u4922626fx3363cc73cc0bc913@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Digital music news links aggregated for those so inclined Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:43:16 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:43:22 +0000 (UTC) On Jan 4, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > useful digi music links for those of you so inclined: > http://is.gd/eyQ That seems to lead to a Canadian Vox blog. I don't spot music links, am I missing something? regards BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 03:35:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D35933BE7F; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231126514; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=oCaiy1PZFU1y/0ZakhDN13IFECE=; b=HNQ58oroLeu6r8Z1yOmaHoe4DJmDWmzh+8hr7Uu4TqOdpst3T3jqIKN28/VZK/pn CRVkgH1QyQlHBRquSAVSYDmnBjuReOesiTIPNQrONRhSAebuo5UhqO4g7Pt7PNwG; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PtlJ_xtC5PQA:10 a=WqSPny7czR8A:10 a=7GUP8flqAAAA:8 a=OT3O6O8lAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=8LJigFUbapbR8jzw9awA:9 a=SbrtKHhg1GGeSZr36zAA:7 a=qKVaebnVKV9NJIvdNe1-FFMzhnEA:4 a=2g9mYiDmXFMA:10 a=MqUBnajBazAA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=o9tVXXgpjqIA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c96ee6$9ed14ca0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:35:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:35:15 +0000 (UTC) >"The music industry has settled on a pretty cost-effective > model" [snip] >"Most of the radio stations across the > country have the exact same playlist" That brings me back to good ol' WREK Geogria Tech radio. They were the first on the net in '94, well sort of.... you can get the story here http://www.wrek.org/?q=wreknet-first . I remember picking an apt. just because it was in their limited broadcast area. I didn't get internet until '97. I love this station. They have remained steadfast in their vision all these years. Between public radio and them I survived for years. I see they are going to 100,000 watts finally. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" To: Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:27 PM Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE >I think if you're looking for earthshattering trends of the last 2 > decades, you're not going to find them on most terrestrial radio > stations. The music industry has settled on a pretty cost-effective > model: rather than trying to guess which music people are going to > like, they just put out stuff and do all they can to see that people > don't hear anything else. Most of the radio stations across the > country have the exact same playlist. If you listen to a pop station > in Los Angeles, you're going to hear the exact same stuff in Maine. > > When I think of things that happened in the 2000's: > --Glitch pop: The idea that a computer can be an instrument, and that > sequences and samples you program at home can be the new "folk" music: > The Books, Tujiko Noriko, Tuung > > --Indie Hip-Hop has grown by leaps and bounds this decade, and now has > a completely different identity than the mainstream > 2-notes-on-a-$10,000-keyboard stuff on the radio. Take a listen to the > record labels Stones Throw (Madlib, J Dilla, Oh No, Aloe Blacc, Guilty > Simpson, etc) and Definitive Jux (El-P, Aesop Rock, Cannibal Ox, Mr. > Lif, etc). Another collective, Anticon, put out several albums of > their more avant-garde take on it earlier in the decade, including the > excellent first Clouddead record. > > --Grime as a genre didn't become as popular in the US as it allegedly > did in England, but it's usually characterized as a funky "dirty" > combination between dancehall (reggae), rap and techno, often using > "affordable" equipment: MIA, Dizzie Rascal, Lady Sovereign > > --New services on the internet, such as myspace and iodalliance.com > make it easy for independent artists to get just as much online > distribution (even more) than major label artists get. > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: 1/3/2009 2:14 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 03:51:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D65F23BE79; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=i6qL99SdPNHYdmrMyqVw3IDy77efOOk1cKkx6uhWTZY=; b=u9rK4eigVukIC5Zd/CTee0e8llph/dhNx/krkRnSKbTg0vwJJ1jxK6quNMY+99edET NXegAFwPOHhVSkxTbP3tzGYaojU0EQ7Zr5Lcedpvdc5oChpTQ04g6RIzfkRzuiMR+bsT 8JqN8kW4VHA87hjtswroZQ6Nz7Jcep8GblNog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=RX6qwRofQ4wRCr3C9tP2ffihOJg+d89oRHnFIBWCD+SSKPVxhm/8NsiGqwJAuIaFxH 79B+peN1qHTs7mlogCHFLxaqIkSmppYvipZpA7+rb7KoLm/wPP19AfM3it596ecKmPM3 5Mb/mboG6yPkNDofqpyRhnSCeGGHhw9YxMTBc= Message-ID: <101191640901041951x7cbdbe01s92d21df2e8e4e24b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:51:24 -0500 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE In-Reply-To: <000e01c96ee6$9ed14ca0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_229455_9863220.1231127484726" References: <495ED71D.9080400@cruzio.com> <000e01c96ee6$9ed14ca0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5b4d886b45f044f8 Resent-Message-ID: <77XAlC.A.0TF.9OYYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:51:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_229455_9863220.1231127484726 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wow - someone else listens to WREK! I listen at work in the mornings frequently - they have one of the best jazz shows I've ever heard, because they play a *lot* more of the outside stuff than you normally hear on jazz stations. I listen via iTunes rather than their web site because I can see the song names and artists as they play that way. And Matt - thanks for those links to indie hip-hop. I'm gonna have to check those out. On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > "The music industry has settled on a pretty cost-effective >> model" [snip] >"Most of the radio stations across the >> country have the exact same playlist" >> > > That brings me back to good ol' WREK Geogria Tech radio. They were the > first on the net in '94, well sort of.... you can get the story here > http://www.wrek.org/?q=wreknet-first . I remember picking an apt. just > because it was in their limited broadcast area. I didn't get int ernet until > '97. I love this station. They have remained steadfast in their vision all > these years. Between public radio and them I survived for years. I see they > are going to 100,000 watts finally. > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE > > > > I think if you're looking for earthshattering trends of the last 2 >> decades, you're not going to find them on most terrestrial radio >> stations. The music industry has settled on a pretty cost-effective >> model: rather than trying to guess which music people are going to >> like, they just put out stuff and do all they can to see that people >> don't hear anything else. Most of the radio stations across the >> country have the exact same playlist. If you listen to a pop station >> in Los Angeles, you're going to hear the exact same stuff in Maine. >> >> When I think of things that happened in the 2000's: >> --Glitch pop: The idea that a computer can be an instrument, and that >> sequences and samples you program at home can be the new "folk" music: >> The Books, Tujiko Noriko, Tuung >> >> --Indie Hip-Hop has grown by leaps and bounds this decade, and now has >> a completely different identity than the mainstream >> 2-notes-on-a-$10,000-keyboard stuff on the radio. Take a listen to the >> record labels Stones Throw (Madlib, J Dilla, Oh No, Aloe Blacc, Guilty >> Simpson, etc) and Definitive Jux (El-P, Aesop Rock, Cannibal Ox, Mr. >> Lif, etc). Another collective, Anticon, put out several albums of >> their more avant-garde take on it earlier in the decade, including the >> excellent first Clouddead record. >> >> --Grime as a genre didn't become as popular in the US as it allegedly >> did in England, but it's usually characterized as a funky "dirty" >> combination between dancehall (reggae), rap and techno, often using >> "affordable" equipment: MIA, Dizzie Rascal, Lady Sovereign >> >> --New services on the internet, such as myspace and iodalliance.com >> make it easy for independent artists to get just as much online >> distribution (even more) than major label artists get. >> >> Matt Davignon >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: 1/3/2009 > 2:14 PM > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com ------=_Part_229455_9863220.1231127484726 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline  Wow - someone else listens to WREK! I listen at work in the mornings frequently - they have one of the best jazz shows I've ever heard, because they play a *lot* more of the outside stuff than you normally hear on jazz stations. I listen via iTunes rather than their web site because I can see the song names and artists as they play that way.

And Matt - thanks for those links to indie hip-hop. I'm gonna have to check those out.

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
"The music industry has settled on a pretty cost-effective
model" [snip] >"Most of the radio stations across the

country have the exact same playlist"

That brings me back to good ol' WREK Geogria Tech radio. They were the first on the net in '94, well sort of....   you can get the story here http://www.wrek.org/?q=wreknet-first . I remember picking an apt. just because it was in their limited broadcast area. I didn't get int ernet until '97. I love this station. They have remained steadfast in their vision all these years. Between public radio and them I survived for years. I see they are going to 100,000 watts finally.

Jeff


----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: OT Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE



I think if you're looking for earthshattering trends of the last 2
decades, you're not going to find them on most terrestrial radio
stations. The music industry has settled on a pretty cost-effective
model: rather than trying to guess which music people are going to
like, they just put out stuff and do all they can to see that people
don't hear anything else. Most of the radio stations across the
country have the exact same playlist. If you listen to a pop station
in Los Angeles, you're going to hear the exact same stuff in Maine.

When I think of things that happened in the 2000's:
--Glitch pop: The idea that a computer can be an instrument, and that
sequences and samples you program at home can be the new "folk" music:
The Books, Tujiko Noriko, Tuung

--Indie Hip-Hop has grown by leaps and bounds this decade, and now has
a completely different identity than the mainstream
2-notes-on-a-$10,000-keyboard stuff on the radio. Take a listen to the
record labels Stones Throw (Madlib, J Dilla, Oh No, Aloe Blacc, Guilty
Simpson, etc) and Definitive Jux (El-P, Aesop Rock, Cannibal Ox, Mr.
Lif, etc). Another collective, Anticon, put out several albums of
their more avant-garde take on it earlier in the decade, including the
excellent first Clouddead record.

--Grime as a genre didn't become as popular in the US as it allegedly
did in England, but it's usually characterized as a funky "dirty"
combination between dancehall (reggae), rap and techno, often using
"affordable" equipment: MIA, Dizzie Rascal, Lady Sovereign

--New services on the internet, such as myspace and iodalliance.com
make it easy for independent artists to get just as much online
distribution (even more) than major label artists get.

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com



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------=_Part_229455_9863220.1231127484726-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 10:50:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 614533BE7C; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:50:49 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT things of sad beauty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:50:47 +0000 (UTC) My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately but I just feel really close and safe in this community and wanted to share with you all. I'll knock it off, if anyone is bugged by the OT nature of some of them. (((((()))))))) anyway: I came back home tonight in a very melancholic mood. The great Russian poet, Yevtushenko, said, "It's good to have a healthy melancholic attitude towards life." My father and I both loved that quote and both had a strong sense and love for things, melancholic in life and, particularly, in music. Anyway, I was missing my dad tonight, big time and wanted to share with you all some of my musical memories of his influence on both mine and my siblings' life. My dad was a clarinet player, professional, in a small big band that toured around Texas during World War 2. He loved orchestration and he had a very strong mentor in a university professor who turned him on to the world of Classical orchestral arrangement........ ........He told my father, "If you love Benny Goodman, you have to come listen to this." and proceeded to show my father the score and play for him, a recording of "Le Sacre Du Printemps" (The Right of Spring) by Stravisnsky. He went on to teach him about classical music and my father fell in love with Bartok, Mozart, Stravinsky, Dvorak, Beethoven, Bach, Debussy, Ravel, Ralph Vaughn Williams, Charles Ives, and Aaron Copland, amongst many many others. He had an encyclopedic knowledge of Classical music which was amazing given his humble roots growing up in a small town in East Texas during the depression. He, along with a wonderful 3rd grade teacher , Mr. Balantine (who made us chill out every day for 30 minutes in school and gave a short lecture on the history of a different classical music composer giving me tons of knowledge for a child of 8/9 years of age) gave us an incredible education about classical music. Thinking about him, I asked my wife if she had ever heard the exquisitely sad and beautiful, Aaron Copland 'Concerto for Clarinet' which was a piece of music that my father dearly loved and turned me onto. I played clarinet myself , formally, from the ages of 8-13 in the school orchestra....................that was, until, I was seduced by the rebellious energy of Rock and Roll and started to teach myself how to play the drums at the onset of puberty. She said no so, I found this marvelous and emotional clip of Michael Tilson Thomas conducting this beautiful sad piece with the amazing Richard Stotzman playing the lead clarinet. 'Andante' section for 'The Concerto for Clarinet' by Aaron Copland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACO5DjpS8YM If you have a moment, please listen to it I love it and I wish to pay homage to my wonderful and dearly departed father. If you enjoy this music and don't know Copland very much, I"d highly recommend that you eschew the things he was most famous for (including things like the ballet for 'Billy the Kid") and head straight for the masterful '3rd Symphony' and , of course, 'Appalachian Spring' If you still want a bit of a melancholic fix......................look up 'The Lark Ascending' by the 20th century British neo-classicist, Ralph Vaughn Williams (his 3rd Symphony is also a masterpiece of melancholia imho). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 11:07:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C3763BE80; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=MsGiZPwvwk4IDzyksu+YGOg+hjKyeBFIaOzSx+fVpY47zyE1++lbDdIf6lnzo+yWH7RExSJMEO8kosVss+zM5d0K9YFGUj5POpqkqPhT0hDavbxzHqcI9NZsmMF8aZBe3vU1GUCpeSg3N5fxDkWbCOqZj6oT2soRVV1seTgnNOY=; X-YMail-OSG: zXbhFTcVM1l2XJlIEexJycUVJTqDtyOJXCHyb5jVRB83Mytwt7DHDqk8wZTFLWGd3YE71xiyJALGi2BiDC4Va03sVeZMG.SQaLU8z2MB.STdL.EPMq90VLHieO910PVkPR0DUqMj18N9oseqkovhWI0Hr83QNR3pUkWrnbFnF6XsU2dzKTrzX5XG2XzHIfb_5lic24j2gI6BnvOB8ZNnQ6Ty_jVZYfLvmA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:07:25 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges To: billwalker@baymoon.com Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <740FCF0690DE4B61894EA36372805072@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <403626.63946.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:07:26 +0000 (UTC) I remeber meeting him back stage in San Diego,a female friend of mine turned me on to him back then, and after the show she wanted to meet him so we went backstage and chat with him a bit.At that time i was getting in to open tunings and was trying to learn "Guinevere" by D.Crosby,after asking him if the tuning was correct he nodded as to saying "no" and i realized that i had learned the whole tune in a wrong tuning by one string i was crushed;-) www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 1/4/09, William Walker wrote: > From: William Walker > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > To: "'L.Angulo'" > Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 9:13 AM > Luis is right, we are talking about really different > techniques as used by > Michael Hedges and the legions he has inspired, My original > disagreement > with Chris (aka samba) Cohn about the timeline of this > technique, I realize > now was missing the point on my part. The kinds of > percussive techniques > Hedges used though perhaps inspired by Flamenco techniques, > he really took > in a new direction, with the use of amplification, > compression and multiple > source pickups to achieve his signature sound. He used his > whole guitar as a > beat box, not just the scratch plate areas typically used > in Flamenco music. > His use of left hand hammer-ons to create ostinato figures > while his right > hand played melody or bass lines , was really fresh and > influential when he > arrived on the scene, as was his technique of striking > harmonic nod points > above what ever chords he was playing to create shimmering > chord harmonics. > Michael was a complete musician, not just a gifted guitar > player and > stylist, but a strong composer, singer and adept > multi-instrumentalist as > well. I miss him a lot. > Bill > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 11:53 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > but who is talking about a golpe? > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Dennis Moser > wrote: > > > From: Dennis Moser > > Subject: Re: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 11:50 AM > > Classical guitar has a long tradition of using the > > "golpe" technique that > > Greg describes ... it really isn't a 20th century > > invention. > > > > Dennis > > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, greg williams > > wrote: > > > > > I have some Baroque guitar tablature (Sanz, > Murcia, > > etc.) which contains > > > specific symbols for 'golpe', making a > > percussive sound on the face or > > > bridge of the guitar. It's rare, but it is > there, > > mid/late 1700s. > > > > > > ~Greg > > > www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist > > > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/greg_williams > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: L.Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:42 PM > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > > > > > i really dont know how to describe that style,you > guys > > know better than i > > > do > > > about the true inventor,off course we could even > go > > back to the blues and > > > there were guys tapping on the guitar but i mean > that > > slap harmonics over a > > > harmonic node and the use of right hand > hammer-ons > > with bass notes and the > > > left hand for hammer-ons and pull offs, > percussive > > slapping on the guitar > > > body,unusual strummings tunings etc. if he didnt > > invent that then it was > > > Preston Reed or who you guys are mentioning,but i > > guess he was given credit > > > for that.In any case because of that style i > believe > > there were few pickup > > > systems at that time like the FRAP(now trance > > audio),but i see a lot of of > > > cats now that do that sort of style having to get > > special custom made > > > systems for them,so the market must still be too > > small... > > > like looping was!! > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/2/09, samba - > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: samba - > > > > Subject: RE: feedback nylon tapping hedges > > > > To: billwalker@baymoon.com, > > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 PM > > > > I don't think Tuck was the > > originator,didn't mean to > > > > suggest it,just that Hedges, wasn't. He > was > > great > > > > though.He was a fan of my old band,so I was > very > > slightly > > > > acquainted,great guy too. I thought of > mentioning > > Farlow,but > > > > he didn't exactly tap melodic passages > or > > riffs so much > > > > as use it for articulating chords,as far as > I can > > tell.I > > > > never heard him live.I know he had huge > hands > > could reach > > > > insane voicings,and would do stuff like > strum a > > chord > > > > fingered high up the neck,then tap a low > > position bass note > > > > with the right hand 1st finger while holding > the > > chord. Or > > > > strum a chord with the little finger while > > holding a bass > > > > note with the 1st .Yeah the great Baden > > Powell,and other > > > > Brasileiros ,like the Flamencos did all > sorts of > > percussive > > > > tapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If > > > > we take eternity to mean not infinite > temporal > > duration but > > > > timelessness, then eternal life belongs to > those > > who live > > > > in the > > > > present.Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok well, as far as I know Tal Farlow beat > > > > everyone to it, at least to the finger > tapping > > part.and > > > > that's not > > > > talking about the Brazilian guys like Baden > > Powell, who > > > > could mimic a samba > > > > batteria with percussive slaps and scrapes > on his > > guitar. > > > > This was happening > > > > back in the 60's at least. > > > > > > > > Bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: samba - > > > > [mailto:sambacomet@hotmail.com] > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 > > > > 9:05 AM > > > > > > > > To: > > > > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > > > > Subject: OT:feedback nylon tapping > > > > hedges > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "... two hand tap acoustic > guitarrists,... > > since > > > > Michael Hedges invented it." > > > > > > > > Heges was brilliant,inspiring etc. But > > definately > > > > didn't invent tapping. My friend > > > > > > > > Paul Prince,(an excellent guitarist,prolly > the > > first to > > > > apply tapping to African guitar styles) > > > > > > > > told me about sitting with Hedges at the > old > > Varsity > > > > Theater, > > > > > > > > in Palo Alto ( sort of the clubhouse for > Windam > > Hill) > > > > listening to Tuck Andreas,who was tapping > > > > > > > > and Hedges saying "that's > it" He > > got the > > > > idea from Tuck. > > > > > > > > But maybe you meat Hedges picku > system,which wa > > highly > > > > worked out,esp fro his modern harp guitar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://myspace.com/usrsbin > > http://audiozoloft.com > > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 11:17:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E2F23BE84; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000e01c96f27$2aeb6f50$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:17:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing this, Rick. I very much doubt that anyone will be bothered by it's OT nature. I do listen to a certain amount of classical music and am another lapsed clarinetist. I played clarinet at school until I was 18 and still had the occasional blow, until a couple of years ago whe I got it out and found that the pads had been eaten by moths. I had never heard this Copland concerto before and I love it. I must say that I don't find it particularly melancholic though, just lovely. On further investigation I found this BBC radio programme, which inludes a discussion of Coplands composing of the peice and an interview with Richard Stoltzman. www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/discoveringmusic/pip/uaxm5/ . I hope the link works ok and you enjoy listening. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" Subject: OT things of sad beauty > My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately but I > just feel really close and safe in this > community and wanted to share with you all. I'll knock it off, if > anyone is bugged by the OT nature of some of them. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 11:48:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 972F33BE80; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DPUySZYoP9XZf1f9YxIrqMViy+KwnwMgPRELdhhpSYM=; b=fGU0lMcGI3u9W2U6w/RrstJgCf8GqNjgCTvtt1etuNAFQkPxWf77EOUSdRDmDQB/go UpIxXX8f2LQCiPJxiD0b0t/yy6S8hPl8q93JP5Uz2KejJrShr86zXeGXRkgXaJxvZUDn gM7rv8r5XBIO4YN8+99MHfowl0QOoJqUS1pJo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=LOERJCy8E33Tu6hnHFKgXXPXxSz/NbK1VwVJxBq/vFELYqXlztOoaSCWvi9lnW6dbC GvSx6u8VHaIeySPGjxaRZPRFey/wskLzCyQ0OrkUWjG4HWOVuIdpIwSlljmyGe/AfyoM jPtB6da6X/iDKE2HJhwVo3DOTpqt/ZwyeWOM8= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901050348j138f3e27w955195c6b0b2443f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:48:31 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty In-Reply-To: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:48:32 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > bugged by the OT Well, not me ;-) I read your post twice. First down to the Copland music link and then once again from the top while listening to The Concerto for Clarinet. I was lucky to meet your father in San Jose 2006 at the looping concert and liked him a lot. I'm not used to older people being that open minded. He had a lot of good takes on the music that was performed that night and I remember he said my flute looping set reminded him of Debussy. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 12:23:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 595593BE88; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <20FADCB2-AA40-4727-943A-C6E5C7828032@kliklak.net> From: jayrope LD To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090105111716.C46263BE8A@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:23:38 +0100 References: <20090105111716.C46263BE8A@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Mainstream media is not penetrated anymore, it doesn't look for pebetration, it just whines and sticks to worn-out formulas of entertainment. Mainstream and substreams have luckily, finally become almost completely cultural fields it seems. Mainstream today exploits its lage back catalogues, and if it releases new stuff, than substreams woudlonly influence that, when some worn-out looks for new hipness in fields that never stop developping. therefore even those small acquired hipnesses are likely to be aged by the time the get released as part of a mainstream sales item. Among musicians and music lovers there is one large gap: You're passionate and serious about what you do and love, or you're not. If you're not, then you might fit the mainstream. Few exceptions might include Amy Whitehouse f.e.. Nevertheless her musical influences derive from the 50s and 60s, and we can all watch the rapid speed at which an artist like her goes down. The new and wonderful all breaches out now, and if at all looking for a home, then usually finding one in small communities of very dedicated fans. So everyone involved feels special again. I love it. - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On Jan 5, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > DEFINING CULTURAL YEAR of the DECADE > > > A pattern I've observed has been that the new thing coalesces > about 4th or 5th year of decade,becomes visible to the media by the > 7th year,and is mainstream at the beginning of the next decade. As > in Psychedlic/blues rock in the 60s. (amazing how often I see early > 70s bands/tunes reffered to as 60s )punk in the 70s .what happend in > the 80s I think of as digital decentralization (McLuhn was right The > Media is the massage.). Even as Grunge World Music ( which really > happened in the 80s) and HipHop,and House music played out more or > less the previous pattern, in Seattle which was the youth culture > Mecca of the 90s because of Grunge ,what was floushing was a > smorgasbord of all the music/style that had ever been trendy > before. a generation of classicists in a sense,but with no > particular identity of their own. > I've been really puzzled by 00s. There are all sorts of things > happening,that seem more mainstrem than the cool stuff Matt > mentions- from faux whitetrash Americana to Cabaret to Steampunk , > but there are a million different tribes and nothing has dominated > stylistically so much as in previous decades.I have no idea what's > penetrating mainstream media. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 13:06:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C87A3BE8B; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=TkYzOfQxri6iFRE0bmyoTouawsTd2GTR1410xlqx2eo=; b=Oa57UfVNGR+f0Dy03RdXUe42Fu+l3BPEHWLUJj4t+on4wq6XhJoyY42Gm5/jlncNRP Gr08Ypu8ZRj6CQsa/DsGgKTKcF0H6cEUMjzBaY7Lvt0r0dVw9jITai4VYTR3iC62ozzQ EMbW/An07DswMiXZzABLkGsMivCQxr/fO3J/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jaEnGjq+S1l/Z3hARkFIqWkJE0JGGjbdomtAAyLCqM9yuWHqLkUMoE21M8Kwz4T4LQ vWb8DlyF0FBMpSdPYctfapRb4jStr3jup3S6bU56swaynRTICGZa5y/nL04IsaBD6luK R+vZQniGHevBNEwSfqqqds3YMzIJydC16IkWE= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0901050502h474e4a01p4431c2e9914188b0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 08:02:27 -0500 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty In-Reply-To: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_201990_1769316.1231160547783" References: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:06:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_201990_1769316.1231160547783 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was a great read to wake up to this morning. Thanks Rick. I'm a classical double bassist and have been lucky enough to get to play this piece a couple times. The first time I played it I was sitting principal and was excited because there is a spot in the 2nd movement where just the principal bass plays some percussive quarter note pizzicatos with the clarinet soloist...... Although I was probably a little too excited because I totally screwed up the on and off beats. Since then I've been waiting for the chance to play it again and make up for it:) Todd ....and to throw in my Vaughan Williams reccommended listening....... Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately but I > just feel really close and safe in this > community and wanted to share with you all. I'll knock it off, if anyone > is bugged by the OT nature of some of them. > > (((((()))))))) > anyway: > > I came back home tonight in a very melancholic mood. > > The great Russian poet, Yevtushenko, said, "It's good to have a healthy > melancholic attitude > towards life." > > My father and I both loved that quote and both had a strong sense and love > for things, melancholic > in life and, particularly, in music. > > Anyway, I was missing my dad tonight, big time and wanted to share with > you > all some of my musical memories of his influence on both mine and my > siblings' life. > > My dad was a clarinet player, professional, in a small big band that > toured around > Texas during World War 2. He loved orchestration and he had a very strong > mentor > in a university professor who turned him on to the world of Classical > orchestral arrangement........ > > ........He told my father, "If you love Benny Goodman, you have to come > listen to this." > and proceeded to show my father the score and play for him, a recording of > "Le Sacre Du Printemps" (The Right of Spring) > by Stravisnsky. He went on to teach him about classical music and my > father fell in love with > Bartok, Mozart, Stravinsky, Dvorak, Beethoven, Bach, Debussy, Ravel, > Ralph Vaughn Williams, Charles Ives, and > Aaron Copland, amongst many many others. He had an encyclopedic > knowledge of Classical music which was > amazing given his humble roots growing up in a small town in East Texas > during the depression. > > He, along with a wonderful 3rd grade teacher , Mr. Balantine (who > made us chill out every day for 30 minutes in school and gave a short > lecture on the history of a different classical music > composer giving me tons of knowledge for a child of 8/9 years of age) > gave us an incredible education about classical music. > > Thinking about him, I asked my wife if she had ever heard the exquisitely > sad and beautiful, Aaron Copland 'Concerto for Clarinet' > which was a piece of music that my father dearly loved and turned me onto. > I played clarinet myself , formally, from the ages of > 8-13 in the school orchestra....................that was, until, I was > seduced by the rebellious energy of Rock and Roll and started to > teach myself how to play the drums at the onset of puberty. > > She said no so, I found this marvelous and emotional clip of > Michael Tilson Thomas conducting this beautiful sad piece > with the amazing Richard Stotzman playing the lead clarinet. > > 'Andante' section for 'The Concerto for Clarinet' by Aaron Copland > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACO5DjpS8YM > > If you have a moment, please listen to it > I love it and I wish to pay homage to my wonderful and dearly departed > father. > > If you enjoy this music and don't know Copland very much, I"d highly > recommend that you eschew the things he was most famous for > (including things like the ballet for 'Billy the Kid") and head straight > for the masterful '3rd Symphony' and , of course, > 'Appalachian Spring' > > If you still want a bit of a melancholic fix......................look up > 'The Lark Ascending' by the 20th century British neo-classicist, > Ralph Vaughn Williams (his 3rd Symphony is also a masterpiece of > melancholia imho). > > ------=_Part_201990_1769316.1231160547783 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was a great read to wake up to this morning. Thanks Rick. I'm a classical double bassist and have been lucky enough to get to play this piece a couple times. The first time I played it I was sitting principal and was excited because there is a spot in the 2nd movement where just the principal bass plays some percussive quarter note pizzicatos with the clarinet soloist...... Although I was probably a little too excited because I totally screwed up the on and off beats. Since then I've been waiting for the chance to play it again and make up for it:)


Todd

....and to throw in my Vaughan Williams reccommended listening....... Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis


On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately but I just feel really close and safe in this
community and wanted to share with you all.   I'll knock it off,  if anyone is bugged by the OT nature of some of them.

(((((())))))))
anyway:

I came back home tonight in a very  melancholic mood.

The great Russian poet, Yevtushenko,  said,  "It's good to have a healthy melancholic attitude
towards life."

My father and I both loved that quote and both had a strong sense and love for things, melancholic
in life and, particularly,  in music.

Anyway,  I was missing my dad tonight, big time and wanted to share with you
all some of my musical memories of his influence on both mine and my siblings' life.

My dad was a clarinet player, professional,  in a small big band that toured around
Texas during World War 2.   He loved orchestration and he had a very strong mentor
in a university professor who turned him on to the world of Classical orchestral arrangement........

........He told my father,  "If you love Benny Goodman,  you have to come listen to this."
and proceeded to show my father the score  and play for him, a recording of "Le Sacre Du Printemps" (The Right of Spring)
by Stravisnsky.     He went on to teach him about classical music and my father fell in love with
Bartok, Mozart, Stravinsky, Dvorak, Beethoven, Bach, Debussy, Ravel,   Ralph Vaughn Williams,  Charles Ives, and
Aaron Copland,  amongst many many  others.   He had an encyclopedic knowledge of Classical music which was
amazing given his humble roots growing up in a small town in East Texas during the depression.

 He,  along with a wonderful 3rd grade teacher ,  Mr. Balantine (who
made us chill out every day for 30 minutes in school and gave a short lecture on the history of a different classical music
composer giving me tons of knowledge for a child of 8/9 years of age)   gave us an incredible education about classical music.

Thinking about him,  I asked my wife if she had ever heard the exquisitely sad and beautiful, Aaron Copland 'Concerto for Clarinet'
which was a piece of music that my father dearly loved and turned me onto.    I played clarinet myself , formally,  from the ages of
8-13 in the school orchestra....................that was, until,  I was seduced by the rebellious energy of Rock and Roll and started to
teach myself how to play the drums at the onset of puberty.

She said no so,  I found this marvelous and emotional clip of
Michael Tilson Thomas conducting this beautiful sad piece
with the amazing Richard Stotzman playing the lead clarinet.

'Andante'  section for 'The Concerto for Clarinet'   by Aaron Copland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACO5DjpS8YM

If you have a moment,  please listen to it
I love it and I wish to pay homage to my wonderful and dearly departed father.

If you enjoy this music and don't know Copland very much,  I"d highly recommend that you eschew the things he was most famous for
(including things like the ballet for 'Billy the Kid")   and head straight for the masterful '3rd Symphony' and  , of course,
'Appalachian Spring'

If you still want a bit of a melancholic fix......................look up 'The Lark Ascending'  by the 20th century British neo-classicist,
Ralph Vaughn Williams (his 3rd Symphony is also a masterpiece of melancholia imho).


------=_Part_201990_1769316.1231160547783-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 14:07:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73CEC3BE8B; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <21362.65.48.1231164465.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> References: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:07:45 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, Thanks for sharing that. It's a powerful piece, definitely pulls on my emotional strings. Music, it's such a wonderful thing. It can just grab you and take you away to another place and time. Thanks again, Andre On Mon, January 5, 2009 6:50 am, Rick Walker wrote: > My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately but > I just feel really close and safe in this > community and wanted to share with you all. I'll knock it off, if > anyone is bugged by the OT nature of some of them. > > (((((()))))))) > anyway: > > I came back home tonight in a very melancholic mood. > > The great Russian poet, Yevtushenko, said, "It's good to have a > healthy melancholic attitude > towards life." > > My father and I both loved that quote and both had a strong sense and > love for things, melancholic > in life and, particularly, in music. > > Anyway, I was missing my dad tonight, big time and wanted to share with > you > all some of my musical memories of his influence on both mine and my > siblings' life. > > My dad was a clarinet player, professional, in a small big band that > toured around > Texas during World War 2. He loved orchestration and he had a very > strong mentor > in a university professor who turned him on to the world of Classical > orchestral arrangement........ > > ........He told my father, "If you love Benny Goodman, you have to > come listen to this." > and proceeded to show my father the score and play for him, a recording > of "Le Sacre Du Printemps" (The Right of Spring) > by Stravisnsky. He went on to teach him about classical music and my > father fell in love with > Bartok, Mozart, Stravinsky, Dvorak, Beethoven, Bach, Debussy, Ravel, > Ralph Vaughn Williams, Charles Ives, and > Aaron Copland, amongst many many others. He had an encyclopedic > knowledge of Classical music which was > amazing given his humble roots growing up in a small town in East Texas > during the depression. > > He, along with a wonderful 3rd grade teacher , Mr. Balantine (who > made us chill out every day for 30 minutes in school and gave a short > lecture on the history of a different classical music > composer giving me tons of knowledge for a child of 8/9 years of age) > gave us an incredible education about classical music. > > Thinking about him, I asked my wife if she had ever heard the > exquisitely sad and beautiful, Aaron Copland 'Concerto for Clarinet' > which was a piece of music that my father dearly loved and turned me > onto. I played clarinet myself , formally, from the ages of > 8-13 in the school orchestra....................that was, until, I was > seduced by the rebellious energy of Rock and Roll and started to > teach myself how to play the drums at the onset of puberty. > > She said no so, I found this marvelous and emotional clip of > Michael Tilson Thomas conducting this beautiful sad piece > with the amazing Richard Stotzman playing the lead clarinet. > > 'Andante' section for 'The Concerto for Clarinet' by Aaron Copland > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACO5DjpS8YM > > If you have a moment, please listen to it > I love it and I wish to pay homage to my wonderful and dearly departed > father. > > If you enjoy this music and don't know Copland very much, I"d highly > recommend that you eschew the things he was most famous for > (including things like the ballet for 'Billy the Kid") and head > straight for the masterful '3rd Symphony' and , of course, > 'Appalachian Spring' > > If you still want a bit of a melancholic fix......................look > up 'The Lark Ascending' by the 20th century British neo-classicist, > Ralph Vaughn Williams (his 3rd Symphony is also a masterpiece of > melancholia imho). > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 14:11:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20B303BE90; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=tW7KP75mfvkO8SZWaAVM5Sc8e7/kdPIWCnFHLGGWi2M=; b=kNaL60OMiVYEpkWyEn9nOJdoEG2O/TOIHCGKw7MRcBvjC2M/C0aGoB0Ywfe0gcEhbh t1TklB0g1kW0eOX8lBx58D0lM10i0gSr1lHy2lnhFe+C5UWV3GRfTL86hdOv2SX2hj9m +s4YWuBEq2YzN8jQMnlOGw03cI/ZCF2Nrc/1E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wCJdEWH+O7657wAi1IxygtQvvCdMI/SiXirOiV0V99tY65ggxVz9+lN2M6+lEMnwDz aA133rtpNnGc8yEktMvTZoWR1+xcHsCxvlJp44MGtIq/3uiwd+URP1qrBfS3Ibt/1UHF GoR78yGWcnU9zPm7BPp3zX1T27d04QuF74RnE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901050611o65108bbfjf255d54336e6c8d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:11:06 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Digital music news links aggregated for those so inclined In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0901041624u4922626fx3363cc73cc0bc913@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:11:07 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:43 AM, RP Collier wrote: > >> useful digi music links for those of you so inclined: >> http://is.gd/eyQ > > > That seems to lead to a Canadian Vox blog. > I don't spot music links, am I missing something? > > regards > BobC Oh, I aplogize! Should be http://is.gd/eyQ4 Thanks, BobC, for correcting! The last "4" never made it all through ;-) Put my fav links at the right column. Instantly updated from different source sites. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 14:17:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA2173BE94; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=fchDfRtRsX+rbzCPKp60QMAS8+UE9FjvaSxrlpXWHRc=; b=cy2ntycqS8m6+78B/6j7qEVKjabC6B1qAHovh4YVJgguDnpfCbM42+RUAtmS47QHiE r5QB7qIXZ0BJQTPA0arVTAaCAdzSIsXbAP7vNObfXE+mKl0FZJnAST1wy/LHQJvMVSY9 fvT54f0BzS4LThQXGdtUIRarh7XXHzC39yfTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jOzTPAgvsLBO8LZGRtbFkQNzK/owor2xQbsO6PNOrgMf5TrbAG3fsEj/VvvfLmTbSy dDIN9NaTs14/LAdI1rXCS0r4UAk+12J1SxSwr/e7trU6pkPHppmLStk9+ducmwjfuJg7 k6HkMB7P9ASybVbuysxTVC6soDjczLexN7YAU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:14:19 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty In-Reply-To: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_258484_25782175.1231164859061" References: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: <35rcCC.A.YcH.BahYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:17:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_258484_25782175.1231164859061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline for williams.. check out also an easy set called "Six Studies In English Folk Songs"... great post, Rick. don't stop sending your OTs. 2009/1/5 Rick Walker > My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately but I > just feel really close and safe in this > community and wanted to share with you all. I'll knock it off, if anyone > is bugged by the OT nature of some of them. > > (((((()))))))) > anyway: > > I came back home tonight in a very melancholic mood. > > The great Russian poet, Yevtushenko, said, "It's good to have a healthy > melancholic attitude > towards life." > > My father and I both loved that quote and both had a strong sense and love > for things, melancholic > in life and, particularly, in music. > > Anyway, I was missing my dad tonight, big time and wanted to share with > you > all some of my musical memories of his influence on both mine and my > siblings' life. > > My dad was a clarinet player, professional, in a small big band that > toured around > Texas during World War 2. He loved orchestration and he had a very strong > mentor > in a university professor who turned him on to the world of Classical > orchestral arrangement........ > > ........He told my father, "If you love Benny Goodman, you have to come > listen to this." > and proceeded to show my father the score and play for him, a recording of > "Le Sacre Du Printemps" (The Right of Spring) > by Stravisnsky. He went on to teach him about classical music and my > father fell in love with > Bartok, Mozart, Stravinsky, Dvorak, Beethoven, Bach, Debussy, Ravel, > Ralph Vaughn Williams, Charles Ives, and > Aaron Copland, amongst many many others. He had an encyclopedic > knowledge of Classical music which was > amazing given his humble roots growing up in a small town in East Texas > during the depression. > > He, along with a wonderful 3rd grade teacher , Mr. Balantine (who > made us chill out every day for 30 minutes in school and gave a short > lecture on the history of a different classical music > composer giving me tons of knowledge for a child of 8/9 years of age) > gave us an incredible education about classical music. > > Thinking about him, I asked my wife if she had ever heard the exquisitely > sad and beautiful, Aaron Copland 'Concerto for Clarinet' > which was a piece of music that my father dearly loved and turned me onto. > I played clarinet myself , formally, from the ages of > 8-13 in the school orchestra....................that was, until, I was > seduced by the rebellious energy of Rock and Roll and started to > teach myself how to play the drums at the onset of puberty. > > She said no so, I found this marvelous and emotional clip of > Michael Tilson Thomas conducting this beautiful sad piece > with the amazing Richard Stotzman playing the lead clarinet. > > 'Andante' section for 'The Concerto for Clarinet' by Aaron Copland > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACO5DjpS8YM > > If you have a moment, please listen to it > I love it and I wish to pay homage to my wonderful and dearly departed > father. > > If you enjoy this music and don't know Copland very much, I"d highly > recommend that you eschew the things he was most famous for > (including things like the ballet for 'Billy the Kid") and head straight > for the masterful '3rd Symphony' and , of course, > 'Appalachian Spring' > > If you still want a bit of a melancholic fix......................look up > 'The Lark Ascending' by the 20th century British neo-classicist, > Ralph Vaughn Williams (his 3rd Symphony is also a masterpiece of > melancholia imho). > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_258484_25782175.1231164859061 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline for williams.. check out also an easy set called "Six Studies In English Folk Songs"... great post, Rick. 

don't stop sending your OTs.

 

2009/1/5 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately but I just feel really close and safe in this
community and wanted to share with you all.   I'll knock it off,  if anyone is bugged by the OT nature of some of them.

(((((())))))))
anyway:

I came back home tonight in a very  melancholic mood.

The great Russian poet, Yevtushenko,  said,  "It's good to have a healthy melancholic attitude
towards life."

My father and I both loved that quote and both had a strong sense and love for things, melancholic
in life and, particularly,  in music.

Anyway,  I was missing my dad tonight, big time and wanted to share with you
all some of my musical memories of his influence on both mine and my siblings' life.

My dad was a clarinet player, professional,  in a small big band that toured around
Texas during World War 2.   He loved orchestration and he had a very strong mentor
in a university professor who turned him on to the world of Classical orchestral arrangement........

........He told my father,  "If you love Benny Goodman,  you have to come listen to this."
and proceeded to show my father the score  and play for him, a recording of "Le Sacre Du Printemps" (The Right of Spring)
by Stravisnsky.     He went on to teach him about classical music and my father fell in love with
Bartok, Mozart, Stravinsky, Dvorak, Beethoven, Bach, Debussy, Ravel,   Ralph Vaughn Williams,  Charles Ives, and
Aaron Copland,  amongst many many  others.   He had an encyclopedic knowledge of Classical music which was
amazing given his humble roots growing up in a small town in East Texas during the depression.

 He,  along with a wonderful 3rd grade teacher ,  Mr. Balantine (who
made us chill out every day for 30 minutes in school and gave a short lecture on the history of a different classical music
composer giving me tons of knowledge for a child of 8/9 years of age)   gave us an incredible education about classical music.

Thinking about him,  I asked my wife if she had ever heard the exquisitely sad and beautiful, Aaron Copland 'Concerto for Clarinet'
which was a piece of music that my father dearly loved and turned me onto.    I played clarinet myself , formally,  from the ages of
8-13 in the school orchestra....................that was, until,  I was seduced by the rebellious energy of Rock and Roll and started to
teach myself how to play the drums at the onset of puberty.

She said no so,  I found this marvelous and emotional clip of
Michael Tilson Thomas conducting this beautiful sad piece
with the amazing Richard Stotzman playing the lead clarinet.

'Andante'  section for 'The Concerto for Clarinet'   by Aaron Copland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACO5DjpS8YM

If you have a moment,  please listen to it
I love it and I wish to pay homage to my wonderful and dearly departed father.

If you enjoy this music and don't know Copland very much,  I"d highly recommend that you eschew the things he was most famous for
(including things like the ballet for 'Billy the Kid")   and head straight for the masterful '3rd Symphony' and  , of course,
'Appalachian Spring'

If you still want a bit of a melancholic fix......................look up 'The Lark Ascending'  by the 20th century British neo-classicist,
Ralph Vaughn Williams (his 3rd Symphony is also a masterpiece of melancholia imho).




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_258484_25782175.1231164859061-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 14:23:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CFE13BE92; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=9vCcr6O/Pr5oVHgjr7J31LEalkaiVpWSY1UZHoXc3R0=; b=s7yg1wfPg88BH2iGQyVjOwlSRG50+fax6PqtjidXPHRwRu3jLezEOuRw7j2scmJw4+ o7lQnBEfnhMBeXOnBmQyH72qh5TeUbWVv480f1jqyTTy9lTkQ1U7iHRtF5NtuLsxgMH8 5lW1/jEsxTYYJI3qXjlvEd3UpZaOLB9J0tYtw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=n/Q9/zamQhGZd/wcFLtpAftEv9deWfnc1aYPq6WWKD2oX13A2J1Vrhh/LJlJyrSS/W swnPPodrQpbc9DgGIkkdOgD8nsDjoWj1NJPIKvUvxbL+gqDxODjH66SUq+NfCP5zi2ew alHgSmPkWhwnfjzOXRgcE6SGln2Cy4kKMS2TA= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901050623g76b110cev805ddc1542a8cd5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:23:53 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Paul Resnikoff's 2008 In Review MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <_M690C.A.o2H.5fhYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:23:53 +0000 (UTC) http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/122908year/view I like this guy's perspective and check his posts on a regularly basis. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 14:24:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C02053BEB2; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=tAZt1omamyl7fYwxpLwDQuBjrp6RC0FHZ49sdSxze7LsRlpvxDZbE5dRaKFc2sN7uq7t+vqJaQ5xDo2hupatjUUG0talLOvC5HcuixdeT1kS3hdyobAVH4olXpPVr6LA; Message-ID: <20090105082425.0utbe6vfk0sg8so8@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:24:25 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty References: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Rick Walker : > > My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately but > I just feel really close and safe in this > community and wanted to share with you all. > I don't mind OT posts. I also feel safe to post on this list. Some =20 other lists are patrolled by people who seem quick to take offense =20 when no offense is intended. People on LD are genuinely kind and helpful. No one's question is =20 ever dismissed with a "RTFM" insult. I appreciate everyone who =20 participates in the LD community. I never met your dad however from your comments it is clear that you =20 and your dad shared an intense bond. A mutual love of music =20 contributed to the bond. You mentioned the "Rite of Spring". My kids all really liked that =20 work and I think I wore out the record album from playing it so much. My oldest son, Michael, has introduced his wife to classical music -- =20 she was skeptical at first however she's starting to take a liking to =20 it. His favorite "well-known" modern composer is Steve Reich. My 11-year-old son, Eric, has travelled with me to the electro-music =20 festivals and likes all kinds of music. Another of my sons, David, can be very difficult at times -- he likes =20 heavy-metal (his favorite band is "Tool") and I think our mutual =20 interest in music has kept us communicating at times when things were =20 really strained. I can only hope that my kids and I will have rich and close =20 relationships as did Rick with his dad. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 14:37:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C09DA3BEA9; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00be01c96f43$15c7d700$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: thanks to rick-bill walker and this group Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:37:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C96F53.D922B930" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:37:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C96F53.D922B930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Rick, Bill and loopers, I have been reading Victor Wooden's book "The Music Lesson". It brought = me some thoughts that I would like share with you. I have started playing the guitar nearly 20 years ago. Played in many = bands, composed a lot of music etc. After my university degree on = industrial engineering, I have done my masters on sound engineering and = electroacoustic music composition. While there I learned some many = things about production ( that is the good side ) at the university, now = I notice that i have lost my realself, my openness to different kinds of = music, improvisation skills. It seems that I have been in a = mid-depression state while i was at the university although i have been = experiencing success as an international composer, guitarist. One weird thing has happened nearly a year ago at the looping festival. = After i got out the plane in san francisco, i have noticed that my = laptop was not working. all of my live set depended on it, and i did not = know what to do. thanks to rick and bill walker i have managed to give a = nice concert at the opening show without my equipment. i had to = improvise with equipment that i did not know about. but somehow = everything went pretty ok, much better than i expected actually. This event was the most satisfying gig for me for a long time. It was as = if something has clicked in my mind and everything went into its right = place. i have noticed how critical i was about myself, my playing and = everything in general. after this weird, incredible gig, I have done = many other impro albums ( which will be released in 2009 and 2010 ) and = they all sounded great. after many years, i have realized my artistic = potential as a an improviser, composer, musician. after that gig, i have = been working like crazy. i have nearly finished 10 new albums, many = commissions, other projects. will start new albums with eno's guitar = player, nina persson etc.=20 So I would like to thanks to Rick and Bill Walker and all of this = community to help me realize who I am as a musician.=20 Bets regards. Happy new year to you all! Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C96F53.D922B930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Rick, Bill and loopers,
 
I have been reading Victor Wooden's book "The Music Lesson". It = brought me=20 some thoughts that I would like share with you.
 
I have started playing the guitar nearly 20 years ago. Played in = many=20 bands, composed a lot of music etc. After my university degree on=20 industrial engineering, I have done my masters on sound engineering and=20 electroacoustic music composition. While there I learned some many = things about=20 production ( that is the good side ) at the university, now I notice = that i=20 have lost my realself, my openness to different kinds of music, = improvisation=20 skills. It seems that I have been in a mid-depression state while i was = at the=20 university although i have been experiencing success as an international = composer, guitarist.
 
One weird thing has happened nearly a year ago at the looping = festival.=20 After i got out the plane in san francisco, i have noticed that my = laptop=20 was not working. all of my live set depended on it, and i did not know = what to=20 do. thanks to rick and bill walker i have managed to give a nice concert = at the=20 opening show without my equipment. i had to improvise with equipment = that i did=20 not know about. but somehow everything went pretty ok, much better than = i=20 expected actually.
 
This event was the most satisfying gig for me for a long time. It = was as if=20 something has clicked in my mind and everything went into its right = place. i=20 have noticed how critical i was about myself, my playing and everything = in=20 general. after this weird, incredible gig, I have done many other impro = albums (=20 which will be released in 2009 and 2010 ) and they all sounded great. = after many=20 years, i have realized my artistic potential as a an improviser, = composer,=20 musician. after that gig, i have been working like crazy. i have nearly = finished=20 10 new albums, many commissions, other projects. will start new albums = with=20 eno's guitar player, nina persson etc.
 
So I would like to thanks to Rick and Bill Walker and all of this = community=20 to help me realize who I am as a musician.
 
Bets regards. Happy new year to you all!
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23
=
------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C96F53.D922B930-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 14:39:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC44D3BEAE; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Eon-Dm: sj1-dm102 X-Eon-Sig: AQMLXdxJYhuvutpm6wIAAAAB,5bca2941131066328f4bd6cf786b46a3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <60A5D8A7-F871-47F6-AE82-514D6AB519D3@basicisp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--543889079 From: Richard Roberts Subject: things of sad beauty Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 08:39:41 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: <6CnqGC.A.jx.0uhYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:39:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--543889079 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Speaking only for myself, I do not mind this off-topic thread at all. Like you, Rick, I also studied the clarinet, from age 11 until seduced by the guitar and anti-war folk-rock. Though never a fan of Copland, I have to admit, this piece is beautiful. But I really love Vaughn-Williams! In addition to Lark Ascending, I'd like to recommend his "Fantasia on a Theme by Tomas Talis". And if still more is needed, Gorecki's Symphony No. 3, Op. 36. Symphony of Sorrowful Songs is a melancholic tour-de-force. Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen "If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC." - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately but I just feel really close and safe in this community and wanted to share with you all. I'll knock it off, if anyone is bugged by the OT nature of some of them. (((((()))))))) anyway: I came back home tonight in a very melancholic mood. The great Russian poet, Yevtushenko, said, "It's good to have a healthy melancholic attitude towards life." My father and I both loved that quote and both had a strong sense and love for things, melancholic in life and, particularly, in music. Anyway, I was missing my dad tonight, big time and wanted to share with you all some of my musical memories of his influence on both mine and my siblings' life. My dad was a clarinet player, professional, in a small big band that toured around Texas during World War 2. He loved orchestration and he had a very strong mentor in a university professor who turned him on to the world of Classical orchestral arrangement........ ........He told my father, "If you love Benny Goodman, you have to come listen to this." and proceeded to show my father the score and play for him, a recording of "Le Sacre Du Printemps" (The Right of Spring) by Stravisnsky. He went on to teach him about classical music and my father fell in love with Bartok, Mozart, Stravinsky, Dvorak, Beethoven, Bach, Debussy, Ravel, Ralph Vaughn Williams, Charles Ives, and Aaron Copland, amongst many many others. He had an encyclopedic knowledge of Classical music which was amazing given his humble roots growing up in a small town in East Texas during the depression. He, along with a wonderful 3rd grade teacher , Mr. Balantine (who made us chill out every day for 30 minutes in school and gave a short lecture on the history of a different classical music composer giving me tons of knowledge for a child of 8/9 years of age) gave us an incredible education about classical music. Thinking about him, I asked my wife if she had ever heard the exquisitely sad and beautiful, Aaron Copland 'Concerto for Clarinet' which was a piece of music that my father dearly loved and turned me onto. I played clarinet myself , formally, from the ages of 8-13 in the school orchestra....................that was, until, I was seduced by the rebellious energy of Rock and Roll and started to teach myself how to play the drums at the onset of puberty. She said no so, I found this marvelous and emotional clip of Michael Tilson Thomas conducting this beautiful sad piece with the amazing Richard Stotzman playing the lead clarinet. 'Andante' section for 'The Concerto for Clarinet' by Aaron Copland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACO5DjpS8YM If you have a moment, please listen to it I love it and I wish to pay homage to my wonderful and dearly departed father. If you enjoy this music and don't know Copland very much, I"d highly recommend that you eschew the things he was most famous for (including things like the ballet for 'Billy the Kid") and head straight for the masterful '3rd Symphony' and , of course, 'Appalachian Spring' If you still want a bit of a melancholic fix......................look up 'The Lark Ascending' by the 20th century British neo-classicist, Ralph Vaughn Williams (his 3rd Symphony is also a masterpiece of melancholia imho). --Apple-Mail-1--543889079 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Speaking only = for myself, I do not mind this off-topic thread at all. Like you, Rick, = I also studied the clarinet, from age 11 until seduced by the guitar and = anti-war folk-rock.
Though never a = fan of Copland, I have to admit, this piece is beautiful. But I really = love Vaughn-Williams! In addition to Lark Ascending, I'd like to = recommend his "Fantasia on a Theme by Tomas Talis". And if still more is = needed, Gorecki's=A0Symphony No. 3, Op. 36. Symphony of Sorrowful Songs = is a melancholic tour-de-force.

Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS

"We are no longer the same after hearing = certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, = sounds organized by another human being: = music."=A0=A0
- Karlheinz = Stockhausen

"If I should = ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:=A0THE ONLY PROOF HE = NEEDED=A0FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD=A0WAS MUSIC."

- = Kurt=A0Vonnegut, Jr.=A0







My apologies = for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately but I just feel = really close and safe in this
community and = wanted to share with you all. =A0 I'll knock it off,=A0 if anyone is = bugged by the OT nature of some of them.

(((((())))))))
anyway:

I came back = home tonight in a very=A0 melancholic mood.

The great Russian poet, Yevtushenko,=A0 = said,=A0 "It's good to have a healthy melancholic = attitude
towards life."

My father and I both loved that quote and = both had a strong sense and love for things, = melancholic
in life and, particularly,=A0 in = music.

Anyway,=A0 I = was missing my dad tonight, big time and wanted to share with = you
all some of my musical memories of his = influence on both mine and my siblings' = life.

My dad was a = clarinet player, professional,=A0 in a small big band that toured = around
Texas during World War 2. =A0 He loved = orchestration and he had a very strong = mentor
in a university professor who turned him = on to the world of Classical orchestral = arrangement........

........He told = my father,=A0 "If you love Benny Goodman,=A0 you have to come listen to = this."
and proceeded to show my father the score=A0= and play for him, a recording of "Le Sacre Du Printemps" (The Right of = Spring)
by Stravisnsky. =A0 =A0 He went on to = teach him about classical music and my father fell in love = with
Bartok, Mozart, Stravinsky, Dvorak, = Beethoven, Bach, Debussy, Ravel, =A0 Ralph Vaughn Williams,=A0 Charles = Ives, and
Aaron Copland,=A0 amongst many many=A0 = others. =A0 He had an encyclopedic knowledge of Classical music which = was
amazing given his humble roots growing up = in a small town in East Texas during the = depression.

=A0He,=A0 along = with a wonderful 3rd grade teacher ,=A0 Mr. Balantine = (who
made us chill out every day for 30 minutes = in school and gave a short lecture on the history of a different = classical music
composer giving me tons of knowledge for a = child of 8/9 years of age) =A0 gave us an incredible education about = classical music.

Thinking about = him,=A0 I asked my wife if she had ever heard the exquisitely sad and = beautiful, Aaron Copland 'Concerto for = Clarinet'
which was a piece of music that my father = dearly loved and turned me onto.=A0 =A0 I played clarinet myself , = formally,=A0 from the ages of
8-13 in the = school orchestra....................that was, until,=A0 I was seduced by = the rebellious energy of Rock and Roll and started = to
teach myself how to play the drums at the = onset of puberty.

She said no = so,=A0 I found this marvelous and emotional clip = of
Michael Tilson Thomas conducting this = beautiful sad piece
with the amazing Richard Stotzman playing = the lead clarinet.

'Andante'=A0 = section for 'The Concerto for Clarinet' =A0 by Aaron = Copland


If you have a moment,=A0 please listen to = it
I love it and I wish to pay homage to my = wonderful and dearly departed father.

If you enjoy this music and don't know = Copland very much,=A0 I"d highly recommend that you eschew the things he = was most famous for
(including things like the ballet for = 'Billy the Kid") =A0 and head straight for the masterful '3rd Symphony' = and=A0 , of course,
'Appalachian = Spring'

If you still = want a bit of a melancholic fix......................look up 'The Lark = Ascending'=A0 by the 20th century British = neo-classicist,
Ralph Vaughn Williams (his 3rd Symphony is = also a masterpiece of melancholia = imho).





 =

= --Apple-Mail-1--543889079-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 15:01:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DEBC3BEA2; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bQhWfA3zvcS8ecUOg7x+YpBCCMDVUW3tWhyHHIfAqPs=; b=vpM9WrMoCNkd5IZ/6gzd9RK/8SnLLIrFo+2A5Pw8aUvBnsui2Oj/fkDFt+mkHuQg+G aDC0yauyuI+OgGZ2m3RmesqlPV2pedImtci+Lb4nqwZKPyjmMphic3vYMRDRZUKAgX7g V33cbHObFFauWOf2FZYey4wBBmdz2xddp7icA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=cWpKTE0Lmgz4cD3MHn2R11AGfy88ZGVptZBw8VK+GZA8JUcIgtKe8taW3ai3Dwrv0M oCqQ5jUhaTDASlcfceQjPmDp7jhTK1+RM2pqKp9DPi2WvgIlKsrB+pAbHE/y0ZiKv0bn +0+wZ2KMiyV7vwnKUx4J4fLovV8xELloobE+k= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901050701n3a0c5092t381e8e1bb9ef76ac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:01:10 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thanks to rick-bill walker and this group In-Reply-To: <00be01c96f43$15c7d700$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <00be01c96f43$15c7d700$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: <_9ky3C.A.MfB.3CiYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Erdem, How great to hear your own view on those magic days! I remember how you were spending endless hours inside Bill's music room learning the new loopers he borrowed you - while we others were having a good time out in the Californian sun (coffee, bagels and "death marches" - to be explained elsewhere). Thanks for sharing this "mind-clicking" success story! Wish you and everyone else Big Clicks Of Mind in 2k9! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > Dear Rick, Bill and loopers, > > I have been reading Victor Wooden's book "The Music Lesson". It brought me > some thoughts that I would like share with you. > > I have started playing the guitar nearly 20 years ago. Played in many bands, > composed a lot of music etc. After my university degree on industrial > engineering, I have done my masters on sound engineering and electroacoustic > music composition. While there I learned some many things about production ( > that is the good side ) at the university, now I notice that i have lost my > realself, my openness to different kinds of music, improvisation skills. It > seems that I have been in a mid-depression state while i was at the > university although i have been experiencing success as an international > composer, guitarist. > > One weird thing has happened nearly a year ago at the looping festival. > After i got out the plane in san francisco, i have noticed that my laptop > was not working. all of my live set depended on it, and i did not know what > to do. thanks to rick and bill walker i have managed to give a nice concert > at the opening show without my equipment. i had to improvise with equipment > that i did not know about. but somehow everything went pretty ok, much > better than i expected actually. > > This event was the most satisfying gig for me for a long time. It was as if > something has clicked in my mind and everything went into its right place. i > have noticed how critical i was about myself, my playing and everything in > general. after this weird, incredible gig, I have done many other impro > albums ( which will be released in 2009 and 2010 ) and they all sounded > great. after many years, i have realized my artistic potential as a an > improviser, composer, musician. after that gig, i have been working like > crazy. i have nearly finished 10 new albums, many commissions, other > projects. will start new albums with eno's guitar player, nina persson etc. > > So I would like to thanks to Rick and Bill Walker and all of this community > to help me realize who I am as a musician. > > Bets regards. Happy new year to you all! > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 18:25:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69FB93BE82; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1b4485a0-b4d2-4c00-8cba-457bc1bbcaf4_" X-Originating-IP: [67.169.8.206] From: samba - To: Subject: Media penetration Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:25:25 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090105141738.1135A3BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090105141738.1135A3BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2009 18:25:25.0686 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA7EC560:01C96F62] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:25:27 +0000 (UTC) --_1b4485a0-b4d2-4c00-8cba-457bc1bbcaf4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 "Mainstream media is not penetrated anymore=2C" I think this is true. It may in part be that there are so many alternati= ves available=20 to those who don't fit that creatives are less likely to attempt infiltr= ation. In past eras=2Cevery now once in a blue moon something unexpected would catch on =2Cwhen the suits= didn=3Bt understand a trend they'd=20 lose some control -in the attempt to cash in on the trend some creative = people who would get their feet in the door util the suits figured out how to control and formulize the t= rend( ie kill it). These days content doesn't drive media=2Cand all sorts of peope will pro= vide content for little or nothing. That's the reasn for so called Reality TV=2Ccut out labor costs.=20 --_1b4485a0-b4d2-4c00-8cba-457bc1bbcaf4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B =3B 
"Mainstream media is not penetrated anymore=2C"   I think this is true. It may in part be that there are so many alterna=
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= --_1b4485a0-b4d2-4c00-8cba-457bc1bbcaf4_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 18:37:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEB9A3BE88; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01a601c96f64$9aab2550$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: OT : concert - san francisco LA Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:37:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A3_01C96F75.5E0C2200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:37:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A3_01C96F75.5E0C2200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I will be in san francisco and LA between 12-19 march. i would like to = give a concert of my new cd contaning my electroacoustic pieces. Do you = know any universities, concert halls etc that I could get in contact = with about this? will very much appreciate the info. Thanks and best regards. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 ------=_NextPart_000_01A3_01C96F75.5E0C2200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I will be in san francisco and LA between 12-19 march. i would = like to=20 give a concert of my new cd contaning my electroacoustic pieces. Do=20 you know any universities, concert halls etc that I could get in = contact=20 with about this? will very much appreciate the info.
 
Thanks and best regards.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23
=
------=_NextPart_000_01A3_01C96F75.5E0C2200-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 19:02:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEBF13BE80; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:02:09 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C96F25.13B76930" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AclvZ/gAiwh2p1AOTfKMu1snzH22Rg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:02:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C96F25.13B76930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Rick,. Of all the music that our father exposed us to growing up, the music of Copeland and Vaughn Williams, In particular Appalachian Spring and The Lark Ascending, invoke the most powerful emotions in me, because they call to mind both the melancholy of which Rick spoke, and the shear beauty of the natural world, which our dad so dearly loved. The Lark Ascending in particular never fails to conjure images for me of high peaks , radiant big skies, and endless tracks of wilderness, our dads favorite places, and where he found his peace with the world. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C96F25.13B76930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Rick,.

 Of all the music that our father exposed us to = growing up,  the  music of Copeland and Vaughn Williams, In particular Appalachian Spring  and The Lark Ascending, invoke the most = powerful emotions in me, because they call to mind both the melancholy of which = Rick spoke, and the shear beauty of the natural world, which our dad so = dearly loved. The Lark Ascending in particular never fails to conjure images = for me of high peaks , radiant big skies, and endless tracks of wilderness, =  our dads favorite places, and where he found his peace with the = world.

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C96F25.13B76930-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 19:18:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C909C3BE8A; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:18:26 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e0168eec-f679-4987-9d4b-038d1a12ed92_" X-Originating-IP: [88.90.57.92] From: Martin Almagro Tonne To: Subject: Looper with MIDI-sync Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:13:25 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2009 19:13:25.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEFAA1C0:01C96F69] Resent-Message-ID: <2YgtXD.A.CxB.C0lYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:18:26 +0000 (UTC) --_e0168eec-f679-4987-9d4b-038d1a12ed92_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C I am completely new to Loopers Delight=2C looking for my first looper= . Features I need in a looper are: -syncronization with an external MIDI-clock -at least 2 minutes of looping time -relatively small size (pedal/pedalboard) I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50=2C but the RC-20 doesn'= t have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers I've fou= nd with MIDI are either gigantic or rack-mountable=2C and what I need is a = pedal with a not-too-overwhelming size. I don't know if it exists=2C but i = suspect that if it does=2C one of you will know. Hoping for replies! Martin=2C Norway _________________________________________________________________ Siste nytt om kjendisene her! MSN=AE Starlounge http://msnno.starlounge.com/?ocid=3D30034= --_e0168eec-f679-4987-9d4b-038d1a12ed92_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C I am completely new to Loopers Delight=2C looking for my first looper= .

Features I need in a looper are:

-syncronization with an ex= ternal MIDI-clock
-at least 2 minutes of looping time
-relatively sma= ll size (pedal/pedalboard)

I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and= the RC-50=2C but the RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big = for me. All other loopers I've found with MIDI are either gigantic or rack-= mountable=2C and what I need is a pedal with a not-too-overwhelming size. I= don't know if it exists=2C but i suspect that if it does=2C one of you wil= l know. Hoping for replies!

Martin=2C Norway


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Dagens mest popul=E6re klipp! = --_e0168eec-f679-4987-9d4b-038d1a12ed92_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 19:20:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D56803BE8E; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=MgEbBckL9Kr2ufclPNKrswCXeuRUtTYH7i6VSRkavIpEMeKAXLaIpaSsU4Lr+dXJDjapPWfP+4soahbwab5LP+fKUFh0JYlpIhyv1j8ZKlHu1oTnh7w+KRi788murEK0WD+9n5gUESQSHfJssGkJ2iWvQBQtQu2AfnFqFcf/eFw=; X-YMail-OSG: Ti0wR8AVM1ns8jqzwY2wUd9Miz4Vjk4F.79Tmn6Ig.9xC6nolC4IBMdJ_TCKuCehMz7ItX.maFY_lEySVQR3Vg4w_wD8e5ckKkS722J3QkHtRlkKgez.Sp9qGlP4bncrfSATT3Xrkq7ZNqiKLqOTwPGPmpZrSNmieNAEw4udKNMvUIvcVG0UG6rPkE7sbN_tPCV4g3tagRb4Zgk0XihmpMrvhOh.EmMc3AMV X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:20:31 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thanks to rick-bill walker and this group To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00be01c96f43$15c7d700$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <659190.7979.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Hi Erdem, I have to pitch in on this as well. If it hadnt been for Rick i probably would have not release my loop CD,it started with the Bluezette project at the CT-collective,back then i was recording in a small Roland VS recorder and dindt have much idea about recording with computers and didnt even own a mini disc! so he like what he heard and offered to put my submission on mini disc and send it out for me,that actually how we got to know each other! Ive also seen him working his ass off organizing this festivals being there from noon till midnight then packing it up and still having the energy to go out for a drink with us all! He also encouraged me to do my first solo looping gig which i did with him.In my website there ae photos of our gig here and in Switzerland where i met Matthias Grob,Claude Voit,and other loopers(god it seems like a long time ago)i remeber having a jam till the early morning hours and everybody sleeping at the venue,it was all great fun.Everybody was exchanging CDs and i felt kind of ackward that i didnt have one to offer so all this inspired me to put a loop CD together.He has also been really encouraging and supportive of my songwritting,in fact his last email about the upcoming festival has pushed me to get off my ass and do something,i am taking a break from recording as we speak!I am not sure is going to be a looping CD but this simple thing inspired me again at least to record again.For the last couple of years i havent been writing anything or recording for that matter...i do at times also get discouraged and loose a bit of faith on direction but i guess thats precisely the time that some sort of change is about to happen, or is time to just get ready for when it comes.I dont completely agree that inspiration is always there,as the saying goes"moments of true inspiration are rare but you can always prepare for them because the arrival is unpredicatable". anyway Rick you fuckin rock! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 1/5/09, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > From: Erdem Helvacioglu > Subject: thanks to rick-bill walker and this group > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 6:37 AM > Dear Rick, Bill and loopers, > > I have been reading Victor Wooden's book "The > Music Lesson". It brought me some thoughts that I would > like share with you. > > I have started playing the guitar nearly 20 years ago. > Played in many bands, composed a lot of music etc. After my > university degree on industrial engineering, I have done my > masters on sound engineering and electroacoustic music > composition. While there I learned some many things about > production ( that is the good side ) at the university, now > I notice that i have lost my realself, my openness to > different kinds of music, improvisation skills. It seems > that I have been in a mid-depression state while i was at > the university although i have been experiencing success as > an international composer, guitarist. > > One weird thing has happened nearly a year ago at the > looping festival. After i got out the plane in san > francisco, i have noticed that my laptop was not working. > all of my live set depended on it, and i did not know what > to do. thanks to rick and bill walker i have managed to give > a nice concert at the opening show without my equipment. i > had to improvise with equipment that i did not know about. > but somehow everything went pretty ok, much better than i > expected actually. > > This event was the most satisfying gig for me for a long > time. It was as if something has clicked in my mind and > everything went into its right place. i have noticed how > critical i was about myself, my playing and everything in > general. after this weird, incredible gig, I have done many > other impro albums ( which will be released in 2009 and 2010 > ) and they all sounded great. after many years, i have > realized my artistic potential as a an improviser, composer, > musician. after that gig, i have been working like crazy. i > have nearly finished 10 new albums, many commissions, other > projects. will start new albums with eno's guitar > player, nina persson etc. > > So I would like to thanks to Rick and Bill Walker and all > of this community to help me realize who I am as a musician. > > > Bets regards. Happy new year to you all! > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant > Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 19:58:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F5DA3BE8D; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 650 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:58:27 UTC Message-ID: <496263D8.6040900@gordius.be> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:47:36 +0100 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Reyn vs. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rk?= References: <298845.39430.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <298845.39430.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Hey Luis,

it's the GORDIUS Big Little Giant... He's indeed using an adapted FCB1010 as slave controller to the LG-X. I was just talking to Reyn about this a minute ago. Apart from the LG-X and the FCB, he's also using a few Boss pedals to control the EDPs, just because all instruments are so far apart....  Actually he could chain up to 3 FCB1010 boards combined with the LG-X for "centralized" control of everything. That would give a combined 32 presets per bank, controlled from 3 floorboards, the third FCB would just duplicate the LG-X switches.


L.Angulo wrote: 
what is that pedalboard with flashing lights? what id find difficult from this type of looping is the mic bleeding danger and setting up the footcontrollers to trigger the looper functions from all angles,is he daisy chaining them? dont see a behringer FCB1010 unthinkable!

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Thu, 1/1/09, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:

  
From: Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Reyn vs. Björk
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 2:49 PM
amazing!

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Michael Peters
<mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
    
check out Reyn Ouwehand's livelooping version of a
      
Björk tune
    
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=WKcw8XtYPK4&fmt=18

-m

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------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C96F52.CDD5EBC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 21:37:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 056003BE8A; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231191439; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=hwS2jckOTRw/++U1HJKHYROban8=; b=MPR/Y4ut2BZI3mAcIryy4RsDwA9Iv+ymyRWZqvlXKr3sSWK2mVQEx1a5jRN//h9y QkcyYtkuJP4dGWqU/h3vuIZ1FOU+SGwKOpPR82yKoBx4qXt2wVSK8UkDn06XgrKa; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hhhwLdTAAAAA:8 a=BBkj1lNsAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=aHqFj6NInMfZrDW6YxQA:9 a=Ut3hVj9n17JxGWeu3a4A:7 a=nh-D0Liw4KbYbd5x34C_fg9xDjUA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=C35D7iIojSgA:10 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=YD9PyqMXGQAjpK6z08YA:9 a=VQPMoDJtDp4GBju_3CEA:7 a=Sd1jJOaxfLBjaYUFKOe4a3OYzvMA:4 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002b01c96f7d$c84db220$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:37:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C96F53.DF2914F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:37:19 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C96F53.DF2914F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out the Electro Harmonix 2880, it works as either master or slave. = The only issue I had with it as slave was fixed with the firmware = update.=20 http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Electro-Harmon= ix/2880/10/1 http://www.ehx.com/products/2880 The optional footswitch is needed also for hands off operation. I love mine,=20 Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Martin Almagro Tonne=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: Looper with MIDI-sync Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, looking for my first = looper. Features I need in a looper are: -syncronization with an external MIDI-clock -at least 2 minutes of looping time -relatively small size (pedal/pedalboard) I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 = doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers = I've found with MIDI are either gigantic or rack-mountable, and what I = need is a pedal with a not-too-overwhelming size. I don't know if it = exists, but i suspect that if it does, one of you will know. Hoping for = replies! Martin, Norway -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Se dem p=E5 MSN=AE Video. Dagens mest popul=E6re klipp!=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release Date: = 1/4/2009 4:32 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C96F53.DF2914F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Check out the Electro Harmonix 2880, it works as = either=20 master or slave. The only issue I had with it as slave was fixed with = the=20 firmware update.
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/= product/Electro-Harmonix/2880/10/1
http://www.ehx.com/products/288= 0
The optional footswitch is needed also for hands = off=20 operation.
I love mine,
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Martin Almagro Tonne =
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 = 2:13=20 PM
Subject: Looper with = MIDI-sync

Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, looking for = my=20 first looper.

Features I need in a looper = are:

-syncronization=20 with an external MIDI-clock
-at least 2 minutes of looping=20 time
-relatively small size (pedal/pedalboard)

I've been = checking=20 out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and = the=20 RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers I've found with MIDI = are either=20 gigantic or rack-mountable, and what I need is a pedal with a=20 not-too-overwhelming size. I don't know if it exists, but i suspect = that if it=20 does, one of you will know. Hoping for replies!

Martin,=20 Norway


Se dem p=E5 MSN=AE Video. Dagens mest popul=E6re klipp!=20


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------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C96F53.DF2914F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 22:24:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 484E03BE8A; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=WaQhdQQeMv0V+jheT1AJUt2R7PTFr4jf9FMeccl0I94=; b=H5Se7Cl7/XYpvjiDSZSSpTtX2GElMf8wXKGfsfKBL4t7HyJBYN0cMONjL1260Cx1Xn k4IOSGy2aaawJO6N6SVNxgVANlb7+mX4gqqfvComhVLvnabVE8ZlU1WRjP8yS3DcQvEf ioh8X8S7FKscSnpeKq7aUFOdN+XeYdP41i6yA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=xVZsorjkxxp8bu0n2iFDF2cEkmG1FyFKiPoY+I4/Xbqd0bLKPNR4uaF9oK02bNyqmY qXlhq/pnIgNLCBDkezOYmH/LFzv2WSDs0rHXheRLe5EnbXfLZOE0eKT1tPMSwt1DFNrw U4saCa803ItOh4FfrciEZIrE9itx6I+q/0TA4= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0901051420m4f67a035k78c56125850981c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:20:58 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6f1c0ae5781948f8 Resent-Message-ID: <6-6yS.A.Ce.DioYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Hey Martin, Welcome to LD... Im not the man to ask, as Im a "rack full of gear" guy... but thought I\d say hi as.. well... lets call me the Big LD man from Norway.. or rather IN Norway... Oslo actually. but English... cant you tell? Well wish you luck on finding the right looper for you, and glad you hear you are going for hardware, thats a typical division on this list, as there so many cool software loopers now... we like to fight about it here! ha ha You are gonna love LD Mark On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Martin Almagro Tonne wrote: > Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, looking for my first looper. > > Features I need in a looper are: > > -syncronization with an external MIDI-clock > -at least 2 minutes of looping time > -relatively small size (pedal/pedalboard) > > I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 doesn'= t > have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers I've fou= nd > with MIDI are either gigantic or rack-mountable, and what I need is a ped= al > with a not-too-overwhelming size. I don't know if it exists, but i suspec= t > that if it does, one of you will know. Hoping for replies! > > Martin, Norway > > > ________________________________ > Se dem p=E5 MSN(R) Video. Dagens mest popul=E6re klipp! --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 23:01:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4C293BE8D; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1842 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:01:38 UTC X-Disclaimed: 1 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <002b01c96f7d$c84db220$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: , <002b01c96f7d$c84db220$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alicia.Miller@aftrs.edu.au To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:36:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Lotus Domino Web Server Release 7.0.3 September 26, 2007 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by HTTP Server on mail/Aftrs(Release 7.0.3|September 26, 2007) at 06/01/2009 09:36:23 AM, Serialize complete at 06/01/2009 09:36:23 AM, Itemize by HTTP Server on mail/Aftrs(Release 7.0.3|September 26, 2007) at 06/01/2009 09:36:23 AM, Serialize by Router on mail/Aftrs(Release 7.0.3|September 26, 2007) at 06/01/2009 09:36:27 AM, Serialize complete at 06/01/2009 09:36:27 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3TgQ0D.A.3sB.TFpYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Hey!
I have a 2880 too and I am still having audio stretch problems= when using it as a midi slave, even after the firmware update! I am really= happy with it apart from that. Do you have any tips Jeff. Is there a parti= cular method of operation as a slave that you follow to combat this problem= ?

I would also be interested in any suggestions from anyone for loop= ers that are stable as midi slaves.

Alicia. : )
-----"Jeff Duke" <jeff=5Fd@embarqmail.co= m> wrote: -----

To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
From: "Jeff= Duke" <jeff=5Fd@embarqmail.com>
Date: 01/06/2009 08:37AM
Subje= ct: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync

Check out the Electro Harmonix 2880, it works as = either=20 master or slave. The only issue I had with it as slave was fixed with the=20 firmware update.=20
The optional footswitch is needed also for hands = off=20 operation.
I love mine,=20
 
Jeff
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
=20
From: =20 =20 Martin Almagro Tonne =20
=20 =20
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:13=20 PM
=20
Subject: Looper with MIDI-sync
=20

Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, looking for my=20 first looper.

Features I need in a looper are:

-syncronizat= ion=20 with an external MIDI-clock
-at least 2 minutes of looping=20 time
-relatively small size (pedal/pedalboard)

I've been checki= ng=20 out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the= =20 RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers I've found with MIDI are e= ither=20 gigantic or rack-mountable, and what I need is a pedal with a=20 not-too-overwhelming size. I don't know if it exists, but i suspect that = if it=20 does, one of you will know. Hoping for replies!

Martin,=20 Norway


=20
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= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 23:31:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0C2F3BE8C; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "greg williams" To: Subject: RE: thanks to rick-bill walker and this group Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:31:30 -0800 Message-ID: <208DA4548E0847CDA7691553B1CFED23@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AclvZtiFrk8vJUhjT8KleFiyg/0WvgAI1Hzg In-Reply-To: <00be01c96f43$15c7d700$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Hello Erdem, It's good to hear from you regarding Y2K7, and your impressive ongoing musical journey. I remember the weekend well and with equally fond = memories of music and camaraderie. I also relate to your university experiences. = In order to specialize in an academic environment, one often tends to 'bury = a part of their true self', only to rediscover it again after reflection = or a catalyzing event - like perhaps rejoining the 'real world' ;) I was very honored that Rick selected me to play Y2K7, as I had only = been looping for less than a year and no one knew my stuff (and he had lost = my info and hunted me down on this list I recall). I was equally honored = that a lot of the 'guitarheads' made it a point to watch my set like you, Ted, Randolph, and Bill (sorry if I'm leaving out others!). I was very = impressed with the support everyone gave each other - we were all the absolute = BEST audience for each other.=20 I second your thanks to Rick, Bill and all other kind musical souls on = this list. I have learned a lot from you. Happy New Year to you as well Erdem. En iyi bak=FD=FElar, ~Greg http://www.magnatune.com/artists/greg_williams www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist ________________________________________ From: Erdem Helvacioglu [mailto:erdemhel@tnn.net]=20 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:37 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: thanks to rick-bill walker and this group Dear Rick, Bill and loopers, =A0 I have been reading Victor Wooden's book "The Music Lesson". It brought = me some thoughts that I would like share with you. =A0 I have started playing the guitar nearly 20 years ago. Played in many = bands, composed=A0a lot of music etc. After my university degree on industrial engineering, I have done my masters on sound engineering and = electroacoustic music composition. While there I learned some many things about = production ( that is the good side ) at the university, now I notice that=A0i have = lost my realself, my openness to different kinds of music, improvisation skills. = It seems that I have been in a mid-depression state while i was at the university although i have been experiencing success as an international composer, guitarist. =A0 One weird thing has happened nearly a year ago at the looping festival. After=A0i got out the plane in san francisco, i have noticed that my = laptop was not working. all of my live set depended on it, and i did not know = what to do. thanks to rick and bill walker i have managed to give a nice = concert at the opening show without my equipment. i had to improvise with = equipment that i did not know about. but somehow everything went pretty ok, much better than i expected actually. =A0 This event was the most satisfying gig for me for a long time. It was as = if something has clicked in my mind and everything went into its right = place. i have noticed how critical i was about myself, my playing and everything = in general. after this weird, incredible gig, I have done many other impro albums ( which will be released in 2009 and 2010 ) and they all sounded great. after many years, i have realized my artistic potential as a an improviser, composer, musician. after that gig, i have been working like crazy. i have nearly finished 10 new albums, many commissions, other projects. will start new albums with eno's guitar player, nina persson = etc.=20 =A0 So I would like to thanks to Rick and Bill Walker and all of this = community to help me realize who I am as a musician.=20 =A0 Bets regards. Happy new year to you all! =A0 Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 5 23:52:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBC303BE8A; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49629D53.3000909@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:52:51 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re:thanks to rick-bill walker and this group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Hi Erdem, I just now read your post and wanted to tell you what a privilege it was to meet you and to bring you to the looping festival. I'm also deeply honored to recieve your words of gratituded. I, too, feel deeply grateful for the presence of this wonderful community. It has been such a font of creativity and support for my own artistry. It has always been wonderful, too, when I have lost my way (and I think we all suffer from losing our way , artistically, just by being sentient human beings and artists). Your post and your story were inspiring to me and they make me want to be a better musician; a more supportive and generous member of our community, a better person. I thank you for that. I also want to thank you for acknowledging my brother, as well. Bill is an amazing musician, one of the deepest I've ever known and also one of the most generous, in his knowledge. He is my younger brother but he has frequently been my mentor and my teacher in many, many things. For that I am deeply grateful and humble. It felt good to read your acknowledgement of him. Thanks, brother Erdem! Thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 00:05:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A6E53BE8A; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4962A05A.7080207@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:05:46 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: things of sad beauty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5KKV2C.A.aYD.XBqYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Richard and Todd both recommended Variations on a Theme by Thomas Tallis by Sir Ralph Vaughn Williams That was my father's favorite piece of Vaughn Williams (in addition to his beautiful and masterful 3rd Symphony).............so I love it very much as well. Also, Todd recommended the Gorecki 3rd (what is it about 3rd symphonies, I think Coplands and Vaughn Williams best symphonies were their 3rds). so, again, in the melancholic or sad mode, It is very simple but I also love ADAGIO FOR STRINGS by Samuel Barber and REQUIEM by Garbiel Faure I love a lot of the piano works of Debussy and Satie. I love that one famous aria from LAKME by Delibes. They are more complex, harmonically, (so , to my mind it adds both bittersweet and menace emotionally) but I love the Cello Suites by Bartok his amazing Concerto for Orchestra, with the quietest pianissimo in the entire classical repertoire at it's beginning.......................maybe one of the few times where the dynamic range of CDs excelled over the warmth of Vinyl and Tape..............hard to get the entire dynamics of that piece onto vinyl properly (if you've ever heard it performed live). what else? Le Tombeau de Couperin by Maurice Ravel (still one of my favorite composers..........I'm still marvelling at his use of suspended chords that do NOT resolve.) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 00:13:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A244C3BE8D; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4962A219.3040205@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:13:13 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: thanks to rick-bill walker and this group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Luis, for that remembrance. That was an amazing and exciting time in Lucerne, wasn't it? We were all playing in a former prison (we even slept in the prison cells behind bars after we were exhausted). It felt like this cool , punk rock community, we all ate on big tables outside and lots of people sat in with each other. Man, that was five years ago!!!! wow! anway, thanks for the acknolwedgment, Luis. I woke up really melancholy today and read first Erdem's and your thank yous and it really cheered me up. I think I'm going to do a bunch of work on my new DVD/CD triple release that I've promised myself to release this year. So glad to hear you are recording again, buddy. You are so ridiculously talented....... .....and I'd give my left testicle to have a voice as beautiful as yours!!! Can't wait to hear what you come up with.............and heck, maybe you can release a non-looping record and a live looping ep this year.......doesn't have to be all or none. gracias, amigo, electronica richard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 00:32:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76A563BE8F; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231201974; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=MBiktRaTekiiAK3qv7jnDRthflI=; b=qn1VvDrQj/1H6WiIRznUDZkgRdlD2IUNVtuH+ZJXVPcFerk3bbNV4HPkP7ZSXCiB LwoYRFHrcLpml891bc9CHnRiitrrGdaYpFKX4qvz/eUC6F9wF2xykIZzr0u6dqlM; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hhhwLdTAAAAA:8 a=BBkj1lNsAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=WO3Vae2cHvHz43ncm6EA:9 a=RIuuEx1AkYBDISwajKAA:7 a=HsXeA3bNWF_X4f8LRck5UMt8fWMA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=N6hAojgDL_vDH8_8xgAA:9 a=SH3_-S1ihaxzv2UX5XoA:7 a=0Jaept49gLN5ak2ng6euR6OJjYUA:4 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001701c96f96$4fa4d5b0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: ,<002b01c96f7d$c84db220$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:32:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C96F6C.667B5680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:32:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C96F6C.667B5680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alicia, what are you using for the master clock? what do you mean by = audio stretch problems?=20 I was just playing with it and when in slave to a Boss dr 670 it syncs = perfectly if I have ext.clock and quantize engaged. When I put it into = reverse as a slave it does go out of sync until restarted. It seems to = loose a beat in the transition. When it's master it stays locked forward = or reversed. I rarely use the drum machine and mostly only for practice. = I have found that having the 'quantize" button engaged is needed for it = to sync to a machine. Hope that helps some.... best, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alicia.Miller@aftrs.edu.au=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync Hey! I have a 2880 too and I am still having audio stretch problems when = using it as a midi slave, even after the firmware update! I am really = happy with it apart from that. Do you have any tips Jeff. Is there a = particular method of operation as a slave that you follow to combat this = problem? I would also be interested in any suggestions from anyone for loopers = that are stable as midi slaves. Alicia. : ) -----"Jeff Duke" wrote: ----- To: From: "Jeff Duke" Date: 01/06/2009 08:37AM Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync Check out the Electro Harmonix 2880, it works as either master or = slave. The only issue I had with it as slave was fixed with the firmware = update.=20 = http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Electro-Harmon= ix/2880/10/1=20 http://www.ehx.com/products/2880=20 The optional footswitch is needed also for hands off operation.=20 I love mine,=20 =20 Jeff=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Martin Almagro Tonne=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:13 PM=20 Subject: Looper with MIDI-sync=20 Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, looking for my first = looper. Features I need in a looper are: -syncronization with an external MIDI-clock -at least 2 minutes of looping time -relatively small size (pedal/pedalboard) I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 = doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for me. All other loopers = I've found with MIDI are either gigantic or rack-mountable, and what I = need is a pedal with a not-too-overwhelming size. I don't know if it = exists, but i suspect that if it does, one of you will know. Hoping for = replies! Martin, Norway -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Se dem p=E5 MSN=AE Video. Dagens mest popul=E6re klipp!=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - No virus found in this incoming message. 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Hi Alicia, what are you using for the = master clock?=20 what do you mean by audio stretch problems?
 
I was just playing with it and when in = slave to a=20 Boss dr 670 it syncs perfectly if I have ext.clock and quantize engaged. = When I=20 put it into reverse as a slave it does go out of sync until restarted. = It seems=20 to loose a beat in the transition. When it's master it stays locked = forward or=20 reversed. I rarely use the drum = machine and=20 mostly only for practice. I have found that having the 'quantize"=20 button engaged is needed for it to sync to a machine. Hope that = helps=20 some....
 
best,
 
Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alicia.Miller@aftrs.edu.au=
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 = 5:36=20 PM
Subject: Re: Looper with = MIDI-sync

Hey!
I=20 have a 2880 too and I am still having audio stretch problems when = using it as=20 a midi slave, even after the firmware update! I am really happy with = it apart=20 from that. Do you have any tips Jeff. Is there a particular method of=20 operation as a slave that you follow to combat this problem?

I = would=20 also be interested in any suggestions from anyone for loopers that are = stable=20 as midi slaves.

Alicia. : )

-----"Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> = wrote:=20 -----

 To:=20 <Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com>
From:=20 "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
Date: 01/06/2009=20 08:37AM
Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync

Check out the Electro Harmonix 2880, it = works as=20 either master or slave. The only issue I had with it as slave was = fixed with=20 the firmware update.
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/= product/Electro-Harmonix/2880/10/1=20
http://www.ehx.com/products/288= 0=20
The optional footswitch is needed also for = hands off=20 operation.
I love mine,
Jeff
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Martin Almagro Tonne =
To:=20 loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20 Sent:=20 Monday, January 05, 2009 2:13 PM Subject:=20 Looper with MIDI-sync

Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, looking = for my=20 first looper.

Features I need in a looper=20 are:

-syncronization with an external MIDI-clock
-at = least 2=20 minutes of looping time
-relatively small size=20 (pedal/pedalboard)

I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 = and the=20 RC-50, but the RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too = big for=20 me. All other loopers I've found with MIDI are either gigantic or=20 rack-mountable, and what I need is a pedal with a = not-too-overwhelming=20 size. I don't know if it exists, but i suspect that if it does, = one of you=20 will know. Hoping for replies!

Martin, Norway


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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C96F6C.667B5680-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 00:45:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDF2D3BE8D; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: thanks to rick-bill walker and this group Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:45:27 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003C_01C96F55.06851CA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AclvmBFcnlCyvdTaR3u9O1mxURfbxQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:45:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C96F55.06851CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Erdem for the kind words, and I must say, that I'm usually the last guy who praises Rick for all of the effort he puts in to this community and The Santa Cruz Loopfest, even though I have probably benefited from his generosity and support more than most. I play very little part in the Loopfest other than what little I do at the time of the event, be that supply gear, provide lodging and some airport shuttle , and occasionally put out a fire or provide technical support. The one year I actually produced one of the shows, it was at the Henry Miller library in Big Sur and there were more performers than audience members. It was great fun all the same but I realized it take a tremendous amount of time and energy to promote an event , and I appreciate the commitment Rick brings to it. What little I do pales in comparison to what Rick does every year to make the Y2K fest happen. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C96F55.06851CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Erdem for the kind words, and I must say, =  that I’m usually the last guy who praises Rick for all of the effort he = puts in to this community and The Santa Cruz Loopfest, even though I have = probably benefited from his generosity and support more than most. I play very little part = in the Loopfest other than what little I do at the time of the event, be that = supply gear, provide lodging and some airport shuttle , and occasionally put = out a fire or provide technical support. The one year I actually produced one = of the shows, it was at the Henry Miller library in Big = Sur  and  there were more performers than  audience members. = It was great fun all the same but I realized it take a tremendous amount of = time and energy to promote an event , and I appreciate the commitment Rick brings = to it. What little I do pales in comparison to what Rick does every year to = make the Y2K fest happen.

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C96F55.06851CA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 01:01:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE7F43BE93; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Disclaimed: 1 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <001701c96f96$4fa4d5b0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: , <002b01c96f7d$c84db220$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> , <001701c96f96$4fa4d5b0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: OT Re: Looper with MIDI-sync MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alicia.Miller@aftrs.edu.au To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:06:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Lotus Domino Web Server Release 7.0.3 September 26, 2007 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by HTTP Server on mail/Aftrs(Release 7.0.3|September 26, 2007) at 06/01/2009 12:06:52 PM, Serialize complete at 06/01/2009 12:06:52 PM, Itemize by HTTP Server on mail/Aftrs(Release 7.0.3|September 26, 2007) at 06/01/2009 12:06:52 PM, Serialize by Router on mail/Aftrs(Release 7.0.3|September 26, 2007) at 06/01/2009 12:06:55 PM, Serialize complete at 06/01/2009 12:06:55 PM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:01:28 +0000 (UTC)
I'm using Ableton Live as the master. The problem is "warbly" pit= ch problems. I didn't notice it at first after the firmware update and thou= ght it was fixed. But then I realised I was testing it with my bass through= many effects pedals that didn't show up the problem. I tried clean bass an= d it was very obvious. At this point I don't use it live yet because of thi= s problem. I'm still using the tap tempo on my rc20xl to "sync" untill I ca= n find a solution.

Alicia

-----"Jeff Duke" <jeff=5Fd@embarqmail.com> wrote: -----
To: <L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff=5Fd@em= barqmail.com>
Date: 01/06/2009 11:32AM
Subject: Re: Looper with MI= DI-sync

Hi Alicia, what are you using for the master clock? = what do you mean by audio stretch problems?
&nb= sp;
I was just playing with it and when in slave to a Boss dr= 670 it syncs perfectly if I have ext.clock and quantize engaged. When I pu= t it into reverse as a slave it does go out of sync until restarted. It see= ms to loose a beat in the transition. When it's master it stays locked forw= ard or reversed . I rarely use the drum machine and mostly only for practice. I= have found that having the 'quantize" button engaged is needed for it= to sync to a machine. Hope that helps some....
&n= bsp;
best,
 
J= eff
 
----- Original Message -----
=
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:= 36 PM
Subject: Re: Looper with= MIDI-sync

Hey!
I have a 2880 too and I am stil= l having audio stretch problems when using it as a midi slave, even after t= he firmware update! I am really happy with it apart from that. Do you have = any tips Jeff. Is there a particular method of operation as a slave that yo= u follow to combat this problem?

I would also be interested in any = suggestions from anyone for loopers that are stable as midi slaves.
Alicia. : )

-----"Jeff = Duke" < jeff= =5Fd@embarqmail.com > wrote: -----

To: < Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m >
From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff=5Fd@embarqmail.com>
Date: = 01/06/2009 08:37AM
Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync

= Check = out the Electro Harmonix 2880, it works as either master or slave. The only= issue I had with it as slave was fixed with the firmware update.
<= FONT face=3D"Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">http://www.ehx.com/pro= ducts/2880
The optional footswitch is needed also for hands= off operation.
I love mine,
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, Janua= ry 05, 2009 2:13 PM
Subject: Looper with MIDI-sync

Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, looking for my fir= st looper.

Features I need in a looper are:

-syncronization= with an external MIDI-clock
-at least 2 minutes of looping time
-r= elatively small size (pedal/pedalboard)

I've been checking out the = Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is = way too big for me. All other loopers I've found with MIDI are either gigan= tic or rack-mountable, and what I need is a pedal with a not-too-overwhelmi= ng size. I don't know if it exists, but i suspect that if it does, one of y= ou will know. Hoping for replies!

Martin, Norway


Se= dem p=E5 MSN=AE Video. Dagens mest popul=E6re klipp!=


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= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 01:21:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEBF63BE95; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231204865; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=7gLLW6ohYHJTwWqJtyWBuepQVNc=; b=U9dexcr4QcXNVOFkt//VhY9W4gJgVj2nhvj/tpPjbrnItwP/gru35eFllk6DiFZC Ij6K7AWEAceP+BAvgxgylIX3Yo4cfTvhDK9i4YPExyCyTGWI4exR4ql40m3OXpwK; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BBkj1lNsAAAA:8 a=hhhwLdTAAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=14VXCCKeVUu5svxMK-oA:9 a=xVJYaxrT5fIeIQvikOwA:7 a=wAMLJsnVqQb_OJK6lJ-VWffo-TgA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=v47ZLdibA2YA:10 a=FnSD7CusYUo9UawWSxAA:9 a=ygoE-qLnOtCQ_QlUs3UA:7 a=FlYNsKsGx-qgtZC3a65_nVdLXr0A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <004001c96f9d$0a591a50$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: ,<002b01c96f7d$c84db220$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> ,<001701c96f96$4fa4d5b0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: OT Re: Looper with MIDI-sync Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:21:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C96F73.212D5130" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:21:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C96F73.212D5130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alicia, Thats not good! I have never had any problems like that. Is that without = the forward/reverse changes? Have you tried another memory card? I'm = just shooting in the dark here. Does it do it when not synced and = running on the internal clock? Input levels set high enough or too high? = Have you checked with EH? They do have a forum also. Maybe you could = check there. http://www.ehx.com/forums Anyway best of luck and let us = know what happens. It might help another. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alicia.Miller@aftrs.edu.au=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 8:06 PM Subject: OT Re: Looper with MIDI-sync I'm using Ableton Live as the master. The problem is "warbly" pitch = problems. I didn't notice it at first after the firmware update and = thought it was fixed. But then I realised I was testing it with my bass = through many effects pedals that didn't show up the problem. I tried = clean bass and it was very obvious. At this point I don't use it live = yet because of this problem. I'm still using the tap tempo on my rc20xl = to "sync" untill I can find a solution.=20 Alicia -----"Jeff Duke" wrote: ----- To: From: "Jeff Duke" Date: 01/06/2009 11:32AM Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync Hi Alicia, what are you using for the master clock? what do you mean = by audio stretch problems?=20 =20 I was just playing with it and when in slave to a Boss dr 670 it = syncs perfectly if I have ext.clock and quantize engaged. When I put it = into reverse as a slave it does go out of sync until restarted. It seems = to loose a beat in the transition. When it's master it stays locked = forward or reversed . I rarely use the drum machine and mostly only for = practice. I have found that having the 'quantize" button engaged is = needed for it to sync to a machine. Hope that helps some....=20 =20 best,=20 =20 Jeff=20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alicia.Miller@aftrs.edu.au=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:36 PM=20 Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync=20 Hey!=20 I have a 2880 too and I am still having audio stretch problems = when using it as a midi slave, even after the firmware update! I am = really happy with it apart from that. Do you have any tips Jeff. Is = there a particular method of operation as a slave that you follow to = combat this problem?=20 I would also be interested in any suggestions from anyone for = loopers that are stable as midi slaves.=20 Alicia. : )=20 -----"Jeff Duke" < jeff_d@embarqmail.com > wrote: -----=20 To: < Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 From: "Jeff Duke" =20 Date: 01/06/2009 08:37AM=20 Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync=20 Check out the Electro Harmonix 2880, it works as either master = or slave. The only issue I had with it as slave was fixed with the = firmware update.=20 = http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Electro-Harmon= ix/2880/10/1=20 http://www.ehx.com/products/2880=20 The optional footswitch is needed also for hands off operation.=20 I love mine,=20 Jeff=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Martin Almagro Tonne=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:13 PM=20 Subject: Looper with MIDI-sync=20 Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, looking for my = first looper.=20 Features I need in a looper are:=20 -syncronization with an external MIDI-clock=20 -at least 2 minutes of looping time=20 -relatively small size (pedal/pedalboard)=20 I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, but the = RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for me. All other = loopers I've found with MIDI are either gigantic or rack-mountable, and = what I need is a pedal with a not-too-overwhelming size. I don't know if = it exists, but i suspect that if it does, one of you will know. Hoping = for replies!=20 Martin, Norway=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Se dem p=E5 MSN=AE Video. Dagens mest popul=E6re klipp!=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message.=20 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release = Date: 1/4/2009 4:32 PM=20 = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------=20 Please consider our environment before printing this email.=20 = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------=20 The information contained in this message and any attachment is = intended for the=20 recipient(s) designated only, is confidential and may be = privileged or otherwise=20 protected from disclosure. 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Alicia,
Thats not good! I have never had any = problems like=20 that. Is that without the forward/reverse changes? Have you tried = another memory=20 card? I'm just shooting in the dark here. Does it do it when not synced = and=20 running on the internal clock? Input levels set high enough or too high? = Have=20 you checked with EH? They do have a forum also. Maybe you could check = there. http://www.ehx.com/forums  = Anyway best=20 of luck and let us know what happens. It might help = another.
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alicia.Miller@aftrs.edu.au=
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 = 8:06=20 PM
Subject: OT Re: Looper with=20 MIDI-sync

I'm using Ableton Live as the master. The problem is "warbly" = pitch=20 problems. I didn't notice it at first after the firmware update and = thought it=20 was fixed. But then I realised I was testing it with my bass through = many=20 effects pedals that didn't show up the problem. I tried clean bass and = it was=20 very obvious. At this point I don't use it live yet because of this = problem.=20 I'm still using the tap tempo on my rc20xl to "sync" untill I can find = a=20 solution.

Alicia

-----"Jeff Duke"=20 <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote: -----

 To:=20 <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
From: "Jeff Duke"=20 <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
Date: 01/06/2009 = 11:32AM
Subject: Re:=20 Looper with MIDI-sync

Hi Alicia, what are you using for the master clock? what do = you mean=20 by audio stretch problems?
I was just playing with it and when in slave to a Boss dr = 670 it=20 syncs perfectly if I have ext.clock and quantize engaged. When I put = it into=20 reverse as a slave it does go out of sync until restarted. It seems = to loose=20 a beat in the transition. When it's master it stays locked forward = or=20 reversed . I=20 rarely use the drum machine and mostly only for practice. I = have found=20 that having the 'quantize" button engaged is needed for it to = sync to a=20 machine. Hope that helps some....
best,
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alicia.Miller@aftrs.edu.au
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, January 05, = 2009 5:36=20 PM
Subject: Re: Looper with = MIDI-sync=20

Hey!=20
I have a 2880 too and I am still having audio stretch problems = when=20 using it as a midi slave, even after the firmware update! I am = really=20 happy with it apart from that. Do you have any tips Jeff. Is there = a=20 particular method of operation as a slave that you follow to = combat this=20 problem?

I would also be interested in any suggestions = from anyone=20 for loopers that are stable as midi slaves.

Alicia. : ) =

-----"Jeff Duke" < jeff_d@embarqmail.com=20 > wrote: -----

To:=20 < Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > =
From:=20 "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
Date: 01/06/2009 = 08:37AM=20
Subject: Re: Looper with MIDI-sync

Check out=20 the Electro Harmonix 2880, it works as either master or slave. = The only=20 issue I had with it as slave was fixed with the firmware update. =
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product= /Electro-Harmonix/2880/10/1=20
http://www.ehx.com/products/2880 =
The=20 optional footswitch is needed also for hands off operation.=20
I = love=20 mine,
Jeff=20
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Martin Almagro=20 Tonne
To:=20 loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent:=20 Monday, January 05, 2009 2:13 PM Subject:=20 Looper with MIDI-sync

Hi, I am completely new to Loopers Delight, = looking for=20 my first looper.

Features I need in a looper are:=20

-syncronization with an external MIDI-clock
-at = least 2=20 minutes of looping time
-relatively small size = (pedal/pedalboard)=20

I've been checking out the Boss RC-20 and the RC-50, = but the=20 RC-20 doesn't have MIDI and the RC-50 is way too big for me. = All other=20 loopers I've found with MIDI are either gigantic or = rack-mountable,=20 and what I need is a pedal with a not-too-overwhelming size. I = don't=20 know if it exists, but i suspect that if it does, one of you = will=20 know. Hoping for replies!

Martin, Norway


Se dem p=E5 MSN=AE Video. Dagens mest popul=E6re klipp!


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------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C96F73.212D5130-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 01:21:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 249C53BE99; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=3/3z8ypR0n0eFDM0i/iUhf8py5erLSlUgUncMKC9q4E=; b=ptUB/V1hGbSp8NvvpUXpbvNBqbGnK8nhktn2A5R4I2zGQQjGcdO/Orj7rhxr9E+hQN LWv5AcSLelYxjz1dfkFIZeYLwqXJwvEyXbfdfiIPddOpfW5T8RYhdiOxnNr8BHkuRt9z gv+7WmckYRAKh16SMoJ9E8RU2Vizh9jfMIHes= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=WWmqSL7LckTGQsRCDIPpqB6UsN/uX3uEf4PV+yXGj+hYI/Xt5TiyXND/6QAm3346rc aezD0KQxBHzlfaHrX1hTcDF4IRDmqhktrbpJk6LTdJFLaATcbx5TlZJCJxIt/PQY1pCC pkwDrVS3Dg6o6qXvNZZDA+93Y6Pp5UPAF/XEU= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0901051721w213f9594i445a04399e35571d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:21:16 -0500 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: things of sad beauty In-Reply-To: <4962A05A.7080207@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_263592_21267346.1231204876595" References: <4962A05A.7080207@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:21:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_263592_21267346.1231204876595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I didn't mention the Gorecki. I think that might have been Richard but its = a strange coincidence because I just got the score to that piece about a mont= h ago and I've been working out a looping arrangement for bass. More pieces on my achingly beautiful classical list include: Verkl=E4rte Nacht by Schoenberg 3rd Movement of Pines of Rome and even another Copland's Nonet for strings, 1st movement Richard Strauss, Metamorphosen Arvo P=E4rt, Cantus in Memory of Benjamin Britten (fitting for the looping community:)) Ravel, Gaspard De La Nuit (Piano) this piece never gets old to me. I could listen over and over. Todd On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Richard and Todd both recommended > Variations on a Theme by Thomas Tallis by Sir Ralph Vaughn Williams > > That was my father's favorite piece of Vaughn Williams (in addition to hi= s > beautiful and masterful 3rd Symphony).............so I love it very much = as > well. > > Also, Todd recommended the Gorecki 3rd (what is it about 3rd symphonies, > I think > Coplands and Vaughn Williams best symphonies were their 3rds). > > so, again, in the melancholic or sad mode, > > It is very simple but I also love ADAGIO FOR STRINGS by Samuel Barber > and REQUIEM by Garbiel Faure > > I love a lot of the piano works of Debussy and Satie. > > I love that one famous aria from LAKME by Delibes. > > They are more complex, harmonically, (so , to my mind it adds both > bittersweet and menace emotionally) but I love the > Cello Suites by Bartok > his amazing Concerto for Orchestra, with the quietest pianissimo in the > entire classical repertoire at > it's beginning.......................maybe one of the few times where the > dynamic range of CDs excelled > over the warmth of Vinyl and Tape..............hard to get the entire > dynamics of that piece onto vinyl properly > (if you've ever heard it performed live). > > what else? > > Le Tombeau de Couperin by Maurice Ravel (still one of my favorite > composers..........I'm still > marvelling at his use of suspended chords that do NOT resolve.) > > ------=_Part_263592_21267346.1231204876595 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I didn't mention the Gorecki. I think that might have been Richard but = its a strange coincidence because I just got the score to that piece about = a month ago and I've been working out a looping arrangement for bass.
More pieces on my achingly beautiful classical list include:

Ver= kl=E4rte Nacht by Schoenberg
3rd Movement of Pines of Rome
and even a= nother Copland's Nonet for strings, 1st movement
Richard Strauss, Me= tamorphosen
Arvo P=E4rt, Cantus in Memory of Benjamin Britten (fitting for the looping = community:))
Ravel, Gaspard De La Nuit (Piano) this piece never gets old= to me. I could listen over and over.


Todd







On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com&g= t; wrote:
Richard and Todd both recommended
Variations on a Theme by Thomas Tallis by Sir Ralph Vaughn Williams

That was my father's favorite piece of Vaughn Williams (in addition to = his
beautiful and masterful 3rd Symphony).............so I love it very much as= well.

Also,  Todd recommended the Gorecki 3rd (what is it about 3rd symphoni= es,  I think
Coplands and Vaughn Williams best symphonies were their 3rds).

so, again,  in the melancholic or sad mode,

It is very simple but I also love ADAGIO FOR STRINGS by Samuel Barber
and REQUIEM by Garbiel Faure

I love a lot of the piano works of Debussy and Satie.

I love that one famous aria from LAKME by Delibes.

They are more complex, harmonically, (so , to my mind it adds both
bittersweet and menace emotionally)   but I love the
Cello Suites by Bartok
his amazing Concerto for Orchestra,   with the quietest pianissimo in = the entire classical repertoire at
it's beginning.......................maybe one of the few times where t= he dynamic range of CDs excelled
over the warmth of Vinyl and Tape..............hard to get the entire dynam= ics of that piece onto vinyl properly
(if you've ever heard it performed live).

what else?

Le Tombeau de Couperin   by Maurice Ravel (still one of my favorite co= mposers..........I'm still
marvelling at his use of suspended chords that do NOT resolve.)


------=_Part_263592_21267346.1231204876595-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 01:48:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3030A3BE8C; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231206532; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=C9XqbxDnuq7r1+2b6BCRicJj0sg=; b=PwzjLN2iNfoVBj69Ho66LABXVBfdfiFj/dI26fgLtYmTRtJi2pv7TQ3HTxI3MEY2 buKVls4NEPAYfJQpgvTDZag+b20tn4IfaRYaf1bgGbminaRWBCqcAY4HNOWHvJj+; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QhARJR2vRJ4A:10 a=ZAgoqc80HZkA:10 a=63xPkWpBAAAA:8 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=X8lw9rmGAAAA:8 a=B8rMr6ayL2sgXg6Fe9MA:9 a=YKGnzFpfKmacT6D4OHcGHkVX1_kA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=voO3SwOx1ApB13Q1GuQA:9 a=LfX6OHPjY73V8pr3PcMA:7 a=u7j1aEnvueJV9QTe3CJUy38DffAA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000901c96fa0$ec929650$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Looper alert! audible disease junk-fi sampler Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:48:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C96F77.03691720" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C96F77.03691720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I ran across this over at the Devi Ever forum. http://www.analoguehaven.com/audibledisease/jf-2/ Pretty sick puppy, I like it! And cheep too! Jeff oh yeah, Oblig sig file for self promo, http://www.thisphase.org/jeffdukedotorg.html http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ and cool quote of the day: "Was that too melodic?" _ Sonny Sharrock ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C96F77.03691720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I ran across this over at the Devi Ever = forum.
 
http://www.ana= loguehaven.com/audibledisease/jf-2/
 
Pretty sick puppy, I like it! And cheep = too!
 
Jeff
 
oh yeah, Oblig sig file for self=20 promo,
 
http://www.thisphas= e.org/jeffdukedotorg.html
http://www.myspace.com/= loopsinphasespace
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke<= BR>http://www.youtube.com/use= r/sticky899
http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/
 
and cool quote of the day:
 
"Was that too melodic?"
_ Sonny=20 Sharrock
 
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C96F77.03691720-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 01:58:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4923F3BE8C; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Eon-Dm: dm52 X-Eon-Sig: AQMLXdxJYrrR1+M32QIAAAAB,6ad60f929aa27af0d5561a743ffd253b Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--503151581 From: Richard Roberts Subject: Re: Things of Sad Beauty Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:58:38 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:58:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--503151581 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Yeah, I was the one who mentioned Gorecki. And I agree with you Todd about the Raspigi, The Pines of Rome is wonderful. Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen --Apple-Mail-2--503151581 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, I was the one who = mentioned Gorecki.
And I agree with you Todd about the Raspigi, The = Pines of Rome is wonderful.

Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS

"We are no longer the same after hearing certain = sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds = organized by another human being: = music."=A0=A0
- Karlheinz = Stockhausen



 =

= --Apple-Mail-2--503151581-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 02:30:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C10E73BE8A; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> References: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:29:59 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Yo Rick, If you are in a mood to hear some somber but beautiful music, in=20 addition to the piece you shared and the several other composers and=20 works being suggested in this thread - like Gorecki and Vaughn Williams=20= (which are also faves of mine too) - I also have a couple of additional=20= suggestions. Check out some the works of Estonian composer Arvo P=E4rt (mostly to be=20= found on ECM but not entirely) much of his work could be so described. Another composer you might try is Alan Hovaness (his piece "Mysterious=20= Mountain" in particular) not so much sad as somber and majestic. And some of the saddest music I have ever heard is on a disk by=20 Armenian duduk player Djivan Gasparyan called "I Will Not Be Sad in=20 This World" - quite possibly one of the most profoundly moving CDs in=20 my entire collection. Sadly (!) that last one is out of print . . . but is still available=20 used here and there. It's a "desert island" disk for me. Makes me weep every time. Remember . . . sad is just like happy . . . but for "deep" people (LOL). Cheers, Ted On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:50 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately=20 > but I just feel really close and safe in this > community and wanted to share with you all. I'll knock it off, if=20= > anyone is bugged by the OT nature of some of them. > > (((((()))))))) > anyway: > > I came back home tonight in a very melancholic mood. > > The great Russian poet, Yevtushenko, said, "It's good to have a=20 > healthy melancholic attitude > towards life." > > My father and I both loved that quote and both had a strong sense and=20= > love for things, melancholic > in life and, particularly, in music. > > Anyway, I was missing my dad tonight, big time and wanted to share=20 > with you > all some of my musical memories of his influence on both mine and my=20= > siblings' life. > > My dad was a clarinet player, professional, in a small big band that=20= > toured around > Texas during World War 2. He loved orchestration and he had a very=20= > strong mentor > in a university professor who turned him on to the world of Classical=20= > orchestral arrangement........ > > ........He told my father, "If you love Benny Goodman, you have to=20= > come listen to this." > and proceeded to show my father the score and play for him, a=20 > recording of "Le Sacre Du Printemps" (The Right of Spring) > by Stravisnsky. He went on to teach him about classical music and=20= > my father fell in love with > Bartok, Mozart, Stravinsky, Dvorak, Beethoven, Bach, Debussy, Ravel, =20= > Ralph Vaughn Williams, Charles Ives, and > Aaron Copland, amongst many many others. He had an encyclopedic=20 > knowledge of Classical music which was > amazing given his humble roots growing up in a small town in East=20 > Texas during the depression. > > He, along with a wonderful 3rd grade teacher , Mr. Balantine (who > made us chill out every day for 30 minutes in school and gave a short=20= > lecture on the history of a different classical music > composer giving me tons of knowledge for a child of 8/9 years of age) =20= > gave us an incredible education about classical music. > > Thinking about him, I asked my wife if she had ever heard the=20 > exquisitely sad and beautiful, Aaron Copland 'Concerto for Clarinet' > which was a piece of music that my father dearly loved and turned me=20= > onto. I played clarinet myself , formally, from the ages of > 8-13 in the school orchestra....................that was, until, I=20 > was seduced by the rebellious energy of Rock and Roll and started to > teach myself how to play the drums at the onset of puberty. > > She said no so, I found this marvelous and emotional clip of > Michael Tilson Thomas conducting this beautiful sad piece > with the amazing Richard Stotzman playing the lead clarinet. > > 'Andante' section for 'The Concerto for Clarinet' by Aaron Copland > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DACO5DjpS8YM > > If you have a moment, please listen to it > I love it and I wish to pay homage to my wonderful and dearly departed=20= > father. > > If you enjoy this music and don't know Copland very much, I"d highly=20= > recommend that you eschew the things he was most famous for > (including things like the ballet for 'Billy the Kid") and head=20 > straight for the masterful '3rd Symphony' and , of course, > 'Appalachian Spring' > > If you still want a bit of a melancholic fix......................look=20= > up 'The Lark Ascending' by the 20th century British neo-classicist, > Ralph Vaughn Williams (his 3rd Symphony is also a masterpiece of=20 > melancholia imho). > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 02:59:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32CFD3BE88; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=nkUEzIyyf51psczjEl/CDd9ZJiriatdCzrjw85v0Dz3AFniicliCTg+47JLvirP+KH/PoeK/7TzjusJXKurUWGTOgF5HYAOckCUG4z9uHFzfBkhHktpKTK1gwzP/Gfi1; Message-ID: <20090105205924.f5en4mrd24ggckg4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:59:24 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: things of sad beauty References: <4962A05A.7080207@cruzio.com> <9ea2f30b0901051721w213f9594i445a04399e35571d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0901051721w213f9594i445a04399e35571d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:59:23 +0000 (UTC) One of the my favorite melancholy works is the fourth movement =20 (Adagio) from Mahler's 9th Symphony. -- Kevin Quoting Todd Matthews : > I didn't mention the Gorecki. I think that might have been Richard but its= a > strange coincidence because I just got the score to that piece about a mon= th > ago and I've been working out a looping arrangement for bass. > > More pieces on my achingly beautiful classical list include: > > Verkl=E4rte Nacht by Schoenberg > 3rd Movement of Pines of Rome > and even another Copland's Nonet for strings, 1st movement > Richard Strauss, Metamorphosen > Arvo P=E4rt, Cantus in Memory of Benjamin Britten (fitting for the looping > community:)) > Ravel, Gaspard De La Nuit (Piano) this piece never gets old to me. I could > listen over and over. > > > Todd > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> Richard and Todd both recommended >> Variations on a Theme by Thomas Tallis by Sir Ralph Vaughn Williams >> >> That was my father's favorite piece of Vaughn Williams (in addition to hi= s >> beautiful and masterful 3rd Symphony).............so I love it very much = as >> well. >> >> Also, Todd recommended the Gorecki 3rd (what is it about 3rd symphonies, >> I think >> Coplands and Vaughn Williams best symphonies were their 3rds). >> >> so, again, in the melancholic or sad mode, >> >> It is very simple but I also love ADAGIO FOR STRINGS by Samuel Barber >> and REQUIEM by Garbiel Faure >> >> I love a lot of the piano works of Debussy and Satie. >> >> I love that one famous aria from LAKME by Delibes. >> >> They are more complex, harmonically, (so , to my mind it adds both >> bittersweet and menace emotionally) but I love the >> Cello Suites by Bartok >> his amazing Concerto for Orchestra, with the quietest pianissimo in the >> entire classical repertoire at >> it's beginning.......................maybe one of the few times where the >> dynamic range of CDs excelled >> over the warmth of Vinyl and Tape..............hard to get the entire >> dynamics of that piece onto vinyl properly >> (if you've ever heard it performed live). >> >> what else? >> >> Le Tombeau de Couperin by Maurice Ravel (still one of my favorite >> composers..........I'm still >> marvelling at his use of suspended chords that do NOT resolve.) >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 03:18:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 847F23BE88; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4962CD94.8050204@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:18:44 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gtmatthews@gmail.com, "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: things of sad beauty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <8xzmzB.A.TwB.d2sYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Dear Todd, you mentioned: "Verklärte Nacht by Schoenberg 3rd Movement of Pines of Rome and even another Copland's Nonet for strings, 1st movement Richard Strauss, Metamorphosen Arvo Pärt, Cantus in Memory of Benjamin Britten (fitting for the looping community:)) Ravel, Gaspard De La Nuit (Piano) this piece never gets old to me. I could listen over and over." I love when I get a list like yours and don't know practically everything on the list. You just gave me a week's worth of new listening: Thanks so much. I, do, love Gaspard De La Nuit (and wish someone would do a Suite for Piano and Orchestra using that piece of music in the same way that Harrison wrote a beautiful Suite for Toy Piano and Orchestra, orchestrating John Cages' Toy Piano piece) but it's the only thing on your list that I don't know. Dad loved /Verklarte Nacht/ by Schoenberg but I didn't get it at the time. I think I"ll go back and listen. Dad also just loved Mahler and Dvorak...........................I don't know why, but I've just never developed a taste for either composer.................oh well! / The Pines of Rome/ was composed by Ottorino Respighi............ ........again, a piece my dad loved and one that I haven't really listened to. I'm especially looking into getting into Arvo Part (Benjamin Britten aint so bad either). I don't know anything about his music. Thanks for your suggestions. ************* ************ Kevin mentioned that his son is really into Steve Reich I have to mention a piece of music of his that was never popular in the United States because it only came out , originally, on a very expensive triple Vinyl release by Deutsche Grammafon. /Music for Mallet Instruments, Voices and Organ / is my very favorite piece by Steve Reich.............it is a quintessential piece for live looping using controlled feeback rates......................lol.................... not really, but if Reich had been born later I feel he may have composed using live loopers. This piece has since been released more inexpensively as a single disc on Nonesuch Records. Check it out......................get a massage listening to it or , if it's your bag (hasnt' been mine for 30 years now) take some psychedelics and listen to it. It's like beautiful music from an alien world: mysterious and exquisite. While we are mentioning that , there is also the exquisite / Music for Strings, Percussion and Celeste/ by Bela Bartok From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 03:42:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA6583BE87; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231213349; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=d9/phG2smAOgxX0zF8jf5I/tc2U=; b=H+FB5jQGkOz++cjTPSaKjx4gHf3XkInFE0KdWw5clcDq81paYimrPrQpdkcDArtl 9G78FwxZ4UZ0Xdsj6MKZNFEiaIdRXtonv0P9234/rFuOliwLP2uOxooW2EgzsTCZ; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=C-Mp-0gfqiY7pvnslzUA:9 a=_Hk0eeLCzXhD8A88OUAA:7 a=JdjRVdm7L9UGd9tTAW1WCryhz-MA:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002501c96fb0$cb7528b0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4961E609.60609@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:42:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:42:29 +0000 (UTC) I love Djivan Gasparyan, someone gave me a song by him called Sayet Nova, one of the most beautiful, deeply moving songs I have ever heard. I'll try to find "I Will Not Be Sad in This World". thanks Ted Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® KiLLiAn" To: Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:29 PM Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty Yo Rick, If you are in a mood to hear some somber but beautiful music, in addition to the piece you shared and the several other composers and works being suggested in this thread - like Gorecki and Vaughn Williams (which are also faves of mine too) - I also have a couple of additional suggestions. Check out some the works of Estonian composer Arvo Pärt (mostly to be found on ECM but not entirely) much of his work could be so described. Another composer you might try is Alan Hovaness (his piece "Mysterious Mountain" in particular) not so much sad as somber and majestic. And some of the saddest music I have ever heard is on a disk by Armenian duduk player Djivan Gasparyan called "I Will Not Be Sad in This World" - quite possibly one of the most profoundly moving CDs in my entire collection. Sadly (!) that last one is out of print . . . but is still available used here and there. It's a "desert island" disk for me. Makes me weep every time. Remember . . . sad is just like happy . . . but for "deep" people (LOL). Cheers, Ted On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:50 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > My apologies for the plethora of off topic posts here at L.D.lately > but I just feel really close and safe in this > community and wanted to share with you all. I'll knock it off, if > anyone is bugged by the OT nature of some of them. > > (((((()))))))) > anyway: > > I came back home tonight in a very melancholic mood. > > The great Russian poet, Yevtushenko, said, "It's good to have a > healthy melancholic attitude > towards life." > > My father and I both loved that quote and both had a strong sense and > love for things, melancholic > in life and, particularly, in music. > > Anyway, I was missing my dad tonight, big time and wanted to share > with you > all some of my musical memories of his influence on both mine and my > siblings' life. > > My dad was a clarinet player, professional, in a small big band that > toured around > Texas during World War 2. He loved orchestration and he had a very > strong mentor > in a university professor who turned him on to the world of Classical > orchestral arrangement........ > > ........He told my father, "If you love Benny Goodman, you have to > come listen to this." > and proceeded to show my father the score and play for him, a > recording of "Le Sacre Du Printemps" (The Right of Spring) > by Stravisnsky. He went on to teach him about classical music and > my father fell in love with > Bartok, Mozart, Stravinsky, Dvorak, Beethoven, Bach, Debussy, Ravel, > Ralph Vaughn Williams, Charles Ives, and > Aaron Copland, amongst many many others. He had an encyclopedic > knowledge of Classical music which was > amazing given his humble roots growing up in a small town in East > Texas during the depression. > > He, along with a wonderful 3rd grade teacher , Mr. Balantine (who > made us chill out every day for 30 minutes in school and gave a short > lecture on the history of a different classical music > composer giving me tons of knowledge for a child of 8/9 years of age) > gave us an incredible education about classical music. > > Thinking about him, I asked my wife if she had ever heard the > exquisitely sad and beautiful, Aaron Copland 'Concerto for Clarinet' > which was a piece of music that my father dearly loved and turned me > onto. I played clarinet myself , formally, from the ages of > 8-13 in the school orchestra....................that was, until, I > was seduced by the rebellious energy of Rock and Roll and started to > teach myself how to play the drums at the onset of puberty. > > She said no so, I found this marvelous and emotional clip of > Michael Tilson Thomas conducting this beautiful sad piece > with the amazing Richard Stotzman playing the lead clarinet. > > 'Andante' section for 'The Concerto for Clarinet' by Aaron Copland > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACO5DjpS8YM > > If you have a moment, please listen to it > I love it and I wish to pay homage to my wonderful and dearly departed > father. > > If you enjoy this music and don't know Copland very much, I"d highly > recommend that you eschew the things he was most famous for > (including things like the ballet for 'Billy the Kid") and head > straight for the masterful '3rd Symphony' and , of course, > 'Appalachian Spring' > > If you still want a bit of a melancholic fix......................look > up 'The Lark Ascending' by the 20th century British neo-classicist, > Ralph Vaughn Williams (his 3rd Symphony is also a masterpiece of > melancholia imho). > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release Date: 1/4/2009 4:32 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 03:46:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9F683BE89; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=j+mFZhydngfD9gRAjyfkt6czyQEs+7ASPOKVI5QPR70=; b=KaQBKjvKPrD7f/0zsaaqtfK7feW2jSg9p4A/rdpDIyU31nQUDwAUeCRrIqB0vWt+M+ SY2IMWZpyShCs2ggOapwk+eYPC83QufQmwrj/7jdErF4Y3zyDeDDd2AOU9BJlxxlqrAV QKiBUphjLYWzK2v4LI0q7mUfi81ReHrIF0PP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=C6UciBJNDGei/oCuV0eVwqx2nPiuZ5oWKfMI5UMbmIf5IP1a0KlGyupH1qeBYpWFBw zyfUBjfGNR/DUlo0f5rw/mtYGhZa4OnIVZAyIR/E7uvbSInK5x3vKhX8LJcV34jkXLDE ZdyBagZdMdGOF/tciLtr2zi4ARZgIJWYgxZMI= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:46:11 -0800 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Finding people to play with/learn from MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 25c820bd292f383d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Hey everyone, As a young (still in college!) aspiring live looper currently in san luis obispo, I've found it amazingly hard to find like-minded people to play with, either just jamming or getting a regular group together. Can anyone recommend any places to go, either actual places or websites, to find people interested in music beyond just regular rock/punk bands. Thanks, Nick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 03:59:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED9A73BE90; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=3K9WKBsWnqE3bQ/RU6BfXz31JnzMajG7G6VATA1kV+Y=; b=HJaxCSLrHLuEJRJe5WPqp+++y/H2+V44spt6gObAuRUdxMlx5Z6N3AfBBHIaKR8A8J pMbigheYM/+Do/h2c8UkWV2U+8G8RSUjeK6gVtCYO7CUJW2i+8xi+BasnWtfE18rx2ge QmeZyA3u4GUZrQ+jsYrAiVSPOSJ9GMiCnDfjw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Q59ulDHvKN4LP0x6hsSiQiIsamrgu1gUxEf/f9oDSVy+1OnjlfNNhgcJ+lIJsHFTe/ aZhxzesvhJptTRfFdwKBk+xdX8T8umi7vNkuG6MXg2Ga3YV3i2AarnRcJHU3Xp4ASvev Oa9wwxS9U3Xuzu2LHxcMt0qUGctXmVEv+EFVs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:59:08 -0800 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ot test In-Reply-To: <004001c96f7c$b70425e0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <004001c96f7c$b70425e0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 379578a3de0e1d39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:59:08 +0000 (UTC) All systems are go! On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > test From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 04:12:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C0773BE93; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1231215168; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=suyWfwBLv4+aRcOWElboosuG7vk=; b=NKTnvzCvceVt8msuoyo9xsEf0LsZ1ByAPKS245TP5+vEvImWm5SH5E/Mj8s4UFxq pH2Wd4PfD+Usjir9rm5EEzTNZaVY/+1L71qhQXSoj2SC7pfuiIOO5MQZFgIxkDtk; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=DOcEow9coZgMogG0gusA:9 a=DHYyG2d7agtFSSkgPSoA:7 a=f-1RztiS4kb3AG-7ZAWZWCWzZhoA:4 a=5KYLPG6toDwA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=bc-At0-sGGwA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001301c96fb5$07ed5d90$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <004001c96f7c$b70425e0$0302a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: ot test Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:12:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <852sDC.A.Z5D.BptYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:12:49 +0000 (UTC) thanks Nick, lol j ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick" To: Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:59 PM Subject: Re: ot test > All systems are go! > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> test > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release Date: 1/4/2009 4:32 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 04:23:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B44993BE8C; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4962CD94.8050204@cruzio.com> References: <4962CD94.8050204@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--494663554 Message-Id: From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: things of sad beauty Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:20:06 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:23:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--494663554 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > Kevin mentioned that his son is really into Steve Reich > /Music for Mallet Instruments, Voices and Organ For something a bit in this "vein", take a listen to "Street Song" by Carl Orff. Maybe not very "melancholy", but certainly beautiful in it's own minimalist, "organic" way. Even kind of "bittersweet". And, Rick W being also a percussionist will likely appreciate this. (hopefully) It is one that I have loved greatly for years. Not very long time wise, but has always had a real impact on me. Hear it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ9_6W6bVoQ This song was a part of Orff's "Music for Children" More info: http://www.classicsforkids.com/teachers/training/orff101.asp Carl Orff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Orff > While we are mentioning that , there is also the exquisite > Music for Strings, Percussion and Celeste/ by Bela Bartok Another of my LONG time faves! I actually was first exposed to this incredible piece of music ages ago as part of the sndtrk to Kubrick's "The Shining". I immediately went out to explore and learn more about Bartok... 'The Shining' sndtrk also has a couple of excellent electronic impressionistic "sound paintings" by the long time, and always brilliant Wendy Carlos. There is also either some Ligeti, or Penderecki (or both?) on that sndtrk, but I do not have in handy at the moment to check. Luckily I do still have my copy of the original LP. (stored away) TMK, it was never reissued as an LP again, or as a CD. I have never found it at least, and have looked for any CD. All the best, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-3--494663554 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Rick Walker wrote:


Kevin = mentioned that his son is really into Steve Reich
/Music for Mallet Instruments, = Voices and Organ=A0

For = something a bit in =A0this "vein", take a listen to "Street Song" by = Carl Orff.=A0
Maybe not very "melancholy", but certainly = beautiful in it's own minimalist, "organic" way. Even kind of = "bittersweet".
And, Rick W being also a percussionist will = likely appreciate this. (hopefully)
It is one that I have = loved greatly for years. Not very long time wise, but has always had a = real impact on me.

Hear it here:

This song was a = part of Orff's "Music for Children"
More info:
Carl Orff:

While we are mentioning that , = there is also the exquisite
I immediately went out to explore and =A0learn = more about Bartok...

'The Shining' sndtrk also = has a couple of =A0excellent electronic impressionistic "sound = paintings" by the long time,=A0
and always brilliant Wendy = Carlos. There is also either some Ligeti, or Penderecki (or both?)=A0on = that sndtrk,=A0
but I do not have in handy at the moment to = check. Luckily I do still have my copy of the original LP. (stored = away)
TMK, it was never reissued as an LP again, or as a CD. I = have never found it at least, and have looked for any = CD.

All the best,

= --Apple-Mail-3--494663554-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 04:32:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B3993BE8F; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=buLYU4H6YGctrVPF8SarLVZPGwpXcvI45y5Aftb+SXdtAKfkvKrxtdi6wQUcIeue; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <2056358.1231216335457.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:32:15 -0500 (EST) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Finding people to play with/learn from Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48066ccc03476680a1ca9e23b166ac9e19a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.28 Resent-Message-ID: <-wlenB.A.4wE.Q7tYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:32:16 +0000 (UTC) hi nick-had thee very same story back in the 70s livin(and diein) in SLO,Cali. made the move up the coast to ess eff, found my m u s e and it is the cultural capital of the west afaik. good luck w/ yer quest staninsanfran >Hey everyone, >As a young (still in college!) aspiring live looper currently in san >luis obispo, I've found it amazingly hard to find like-minded people >to play with, either just jamming or getting a regular group together. >Can anyone recommend any places to go, either actual places or >websites, to find people interested in music beyond just regular >rock/punk bands. >Thanks, >Nick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 05:23:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6D383BE8B; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4962EABB.6090907@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:23:07 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT things of sad beauty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Ted wrote: "And some of the saddest music I have ever heard is on a disk by Armenian duduk player Djivan Gasparyan called "I Will Not Be Sad in This World" - quite possibly one of the most profoundly moving CDs in my entire collection." I love that record too, Ted.. In fact, I love it so much that I recently purchased and have been really shedding on a really professional duduk from the sadly lamented Rhythm Fusion in Santa Cruz. 3/4 of my entire collection came from that store, parenthetically, and Dror closed the doors this week after 20 years of being one of the finest ethnic music stores on the entire planet. It's the end of an era, but Dror found me a beautiful hardwood Duduk before he went out of business. It's a fascinating instrument: just playing the open holes like a recorder produces no useable musical scale so everything is in half hole playing. I owned a less professional one and it was incredibly difficult to play............it took more air than I really have considering that I suffer from Reactive Airway Disease which limits me to 1/3 of the lung capacity of a normal adult male. This new one is so well built and the double reed is a work of art, so it's actually pretty easy to play and it has a timbre that is just beautiful. I love the Duduk and it doesn't get better than Djivan Gasparyan. Armenia, where this amazing instrument comes from has a very, very sad history of oppression and now, consequently, there are Armenians spread all across the globe. A beautiful musical culture (and a sad one, too). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 05:43:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 382AF3BE8D; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4962EF6B.3040208@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:43:07 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT: Finding people to play with/learn from Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Nick asked: "As a young (still in college!) aspiring live looper currently in san luis obispo, I've found it amazingly hard to find like-minded people to play with, either just jamming or getting a regular group together. Can anyone recommend any places to go, either actual places or websites, to find people interested in music beyond just regular rock/punk bands." Hi, Nick, First things first....................welcome to this list. You'll find that this community is a wonderful resource for assuaging the "I can't find anyone in my area to relate to Blues" So, a couple of suggestions to answer your question from a grizzled oldbie 1) If you build it , they will come: Plan a modest free live looping festival by yourself in San Luis Obispo or the neighborhood. and find a venue that will host it for free just for the sake of the energy that it will produce. Try getting someone at the University to sponsor such an audacious thing. Then invite anyone to play who can make it there. I'll definitely come play and I live three or four hours north of you. There are several people from this area who would to, I predict. There are a ton of loopers in the San Diego, LA, Orange county areas with a dirth of options for playing this kind of music and you'd be surprised at the amount of people who will respond if you do it. I've done dozens of events like this in my life and done them all on very, very little budget so I'll be more than happy to help you out if you contact me offlist looppool(at sign)cruzio(dot sign)com if you need any advice or even just a bit of comraderie or a pep talk if you get discouraged. You'd also be surprised to find that there are probably several live looping artists who are hanging out in their bedrooms, garages and basements who will jump up to participate. Hans Lindauer, who no longer lives in your area, put on three really wonderful Live Looping Festivals (Loopstock) in Los Osos and SLO several years back. Since he left that area, nothing really has happened in that area so you are due for some new looping energy there. Bernhard Wagner, the Swiss (originally German) live looper was inspired by that festival and the Y2K series to create the largest live looping festival in European history. 2) Come perform at Y2K9 up in Santa Cruz, next October 14-19. You'll just love hanging out with all the loopers who come from all over the US, all over California and all over the world to perform there. It'll give you a ton of inspiration 3) Consider moving to Santa Cruz or the San Francisco Bay Area or Silicon Valley (all adjoining) because there is probably as much live looping per capita going on here as anywhere on the planet. 4) Find and contact artists on this list who you relate to and who relate to what you are doing. Be really aggressive about putting up tracks on a MySpace page or on Youtube.com..................one of the best ways to create music of this type is to do collaborative work with artists from all over the world and with the miracle of the internet and fast new computers, we have this ability to make music with people who do not even live where we live. The reason that I started doing live looping festivals was precisely the reason you posted: I was lonely and wanted to connect with other people who loved this medium for creation. So I"ll reiterate number 1) If you Build it, They Will Come Get Involved. Have the courage to be aggressive in doing so. Don't worry at all about being a newbie..............Go for it. and good luck. Welcome to the tribe!!!! Rick Walker www.youtube.com/OrangeDaygloPlastic www.youtube.com/looppool From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 05:46:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58F323BE8B; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4962EF6B.3040208@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Finding people to play with/learn from Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:46:22 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Couldn't you just play at an open mic or something? t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:43 PM Subject: OT: Finding people to play with/learn from > Nick asked: > > "As a young (still in college!) aspiring live looper currently in san > luis obispo, I've found it amazingly hard to find like-minded people > to play with, either just jamming or getting a regular group together. > Can anyone recommend any places to go, either actual places or > websites, to find people interested in music beyond just regular > rock/punk bands." > > Hi, Nick, > > First things first....................welcome to this list. You'll > find that this community is a wonderful resource > for assuaging the "I can't find anyone in my area to relate to Blues" > > So, a couple of suggestions to answer your question from a grizzled > oldbie > > 1) If you build it , they will come: > > Plan a modest free live looping festival by yourself in San Luis Obispo > or the neighborhood. > and find a venue that will host it for free just for the sake of the > energy that it will produce. > Try getting someone at the University to sponsor such an audacious thing. > Then invite anyone to play who can make it there. I'll definitely > come play and I live > three or four hours north of you. There are several people from this > area who would to, > I predict. > > There are a ton of loopers in the San Diego, LA, Orange county areas > with a dirth of options for > playing this kind of music and you'd be surprised at the amount of > people who will respond if you do it. > > I've done dozens of events like this in my life and done them all on > very, very little budget so I'll be more than > happy to help you out if you contact me offlist looppool(at > sign)cruzio(dot sign)com if you need any advice > or even just a bit of comraderie or a pep talk if you get discouraged. > > You'd also be surprised to find that there are probably several live > looping artists who are hanging out > in their bedrooms, garages and basements who will jump up to participate. > > Hans Lindauer, who no longer lives in your area, put on three really > wonderful Live Looping Festivals (Loopstock) > in Los Osos and SLO several years back. Since he left that area, > nothing really has happened in that area so > you are due for some new looping energy there. > > Bernhard Wagner, the Swiss (originally German) live looper was inspired > by that festival and the Y2K series to create the largest > live looping festival in European history. > > 2) Come perform at Y2K9 up in Santa Cruz, next October 14-19. > You'll just love hanging out with all the loopers who come > from all over the US, all over California and all over the world to > perform there. It'll give you a ton of inspiration > > 3) Consider moving to Santa Cruz or the San Francisco Bay Area or > Silicon Valley (all adjoining) because there is > probably as much live looping per capita going on here as anywhere on > the planet. > > 4) Find and contact artists on this list who you relate to and who > relate to what you are doing. Be really aggressive about > putting up tracks on a MySpace page or on > Youtube.com..................one of the best ways to create music of > this type is > to do collaborative work with artists from all over the world and with > the miracle of the internet and fast new computers, > we have this ability to make music with people who do not even live > where we live. > > The reason that I started doing live looping festivals was precisely the > reason you posted: I was lonely and wanted to connect > with other people who loved this medium for creation. > > So I"ll reiterate number 1) > > If you Build it, They Will Come > > Get Involved. Have the courage to be aggressive in doing so. Don't > worry at all about being a newbie..............Go for it. > > and good luck. > Welcome to the tribe!!!! > > Rick Walker > www.youtube.com/OrangeDaygloPlastic > www.youtube.com/looppool > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 07:11:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF3A13BE81; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 07:11:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=UqJDFFHb150kNK3v64Yk1KolZ26nGKAEAVPntCijoeY=; b=FY0ioq2XWxFv3PHANdOc3op0OTJqksEz+9YCWfRh7LY7XbWYJDtMSV9dhU7/I1SuKI rSxYi35i8DDyOnVG/AVMT42wvaHrky+EzwVYWFUnIb0nPMFuHUyiWzMTUxzCqyedjPaU m6G8x8UpXqiS1OwQbVsAypD+4qdEBAXbw6ou8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=UMgvIdnmn5HF/OrayCgdEQYEIq0aoNu/qJOPj/fMQR9h7/fnURmimMdlTZRY3Pr+fS LWKIdekYDixq1vBiKWMmA0CK1B1FCWBp0Ghglemqd663k7kn0r5m9QNzhbXRlWO0QPhB Cni92hQnabRxrP+7v+pfTE7RDtItKj6WmceWc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:11:40 -0800 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Finding people to play with/learn from In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4962EF6B.3040208@cruzio.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: fbd9e7f99b9de3a5 Resent-Message-ID: <6Pk61.A.4OE.tQwYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 07:11:41 +0000 (UTC) Yes, but i'm not looking to play in front of people right now, I'm looking to learn how to be a good musician first :) On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Toby G wrote: > Couldn't you just play at an open mic or something? > > t > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:43 PM > Subject: OT: Finding people to play with/learn from > > >> Nick asked: >> >> "As a young (still in college!) aspiring live looper currently in san >> luis obispo, I've found it amazingly hard to find like-minded people >> to play with, either just jamming or getting a regular group together. >> Can anyone recommend any places to go, either actual places or >> websites, to find people interested in music beyond just regular >> rock/punk bands." >> >> Hi, Nick, >> First things first....................welcome to this list. You'll find >> that this community is a wonderful resource >> for assuaging the "I can't find anyone in my area to relate to Blues" >> >> So, a couple of suggestions to answer your question from a grizzled >> oldbie >> >> 1) If you build it , they will come: >> Plan a modest free live looping festival by yourself in San Luis Obispo or >> the neighborhood. >> and find a venue that will host it for free just for the sake of the >> energy that it will produce. >> Try getting someone at the University to sponsor such an audacious thing. >> Then invite anyone to play who can make it there. I'll definitely come >> play and I live >> three or four hours north of you. There are several people from this >> area who would to, >> I predict. >> >> There are a ton of loopers in the San Diego, LA, Orange county areas with >> a dirth of options for >> playing this kind of music and you'd be surprised at the amount of people >> who will respond if you do it. >> >> I've done dozens of events like this in my life and done them all on very, >> very little budget so I'll be more than >> happy to help you out if you contact me offlist looppool(at >> sign)cruzio(dot sign)com if you need any advice >> or even just a bit of comraderie or a pep talk if you get discouraged. >> >> You'd also be surprised to find that there are probably several live >> looping artists who are hanging out >> in their bedrooms, garages and basements who will jump up to participate. >> >> Hans Lindauer, who no longer lives in your area, put on three really >> wonderful Live Looping Festivals (Loopstock) >> in Los Osos and SLO several years back. Since he left that area, >> nothing really has happened in that area so >> you are due for some new looping energy there. >> >> Bernhard Wagner, the Swiss (originally German) live looper was inspired >> by that festival and the Y2K series to create the largest >> live looping festival in European history. >> >> 2) Come perform at Y2K9 up in Santa Cruz, next October 14-19. You'll >> just love hanging out with all the loopers who come >> from all over the US, all over California and all over the world to >> perform there. It'll give you a ton of inspiration >> >> 3) Consider moving to Santa Cruz or the San Francisco Bay Area or Silicon >> Valley (all adjoining) because there is >> probably as much live looping per capita going on here as anywhere on the >> planet. >> >> 4) Find and contact artists on this list who you relate to and who relate >> to what you are doing. Be really aggressive about >> putting up tracks on a MySpace page or on Youtube.com..................one >> of the best ways to create music of this type is >> to do collaborative work with artists from all over the world and with the >> miracle of the internet and fast new computers, >> we have this ability to make music with people who do not even live where >> we live. >> >> The reason that I started doing live looping festivals was precisely the >> reason you posted: I was lonely and wanted to connect >> with other people who loved this medium for creation. >> >> So I"ll reiterate number 1) >> >> If you Build it, They Will Come >> >> Get Involved. Have the courage to be aggressive in doing so. Don't >> worry at all about being a newbie..............Go for it. >> >> and good luck. >> Welcome to the tribe!!!! >> >> Rick Walker >> www.youtube.com/OrangeDaygloPlastic >> www.youtube.com/looppool >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 10:43:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 170013BE86; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <496335B2.50100@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:42:58 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Looper alert! audible disease junk-f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8NbJRD.A.bFC.4WzYJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:43:04 +0000 (UTC) About the AUDIBLE DISEASE Junk-Fi Sampler jf-2 ($118.00 USD) http://www.analoguehaven.com/audibledisease/jf-2/ Oh man, does this look delicious!!! Especially the part where it says you can change the loop speed continuously as you record the loop.............that will have so many wonderful applications in sound design and experimental music. I use that trick all the time with the DL-4.........randomly changing octaves and forward/reverse parameters when looping a static chord or drone..............it works great harmonically because it's always consonant but the ability to do this with a variable pitch wheel is really exciting to me. Thanks for the heads up, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 11:34:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EBAC3BE80; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 123480720/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.195.121/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.195.121 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgYBAIfPYklPTsN5/2dsb2JhbAAIzkKFcoRE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,338,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="123480720" Message-ID: <49634303.3020102@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:39:47 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT things of sad beauty References: <4962EABB.6090907@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4962EABB.6090907@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > really professional duduk from the sadly lamented Rhythm Fusion in Santa > Cruz. > > 3/4 of my entire collection came from that store, parenthetically, and > Dror closed the doors this week > after 20 years of being one of the finest ethnic music stores on the > entire planet. It's the end of an > era, :-( > It's a fascinating instrument: just playing the open holes like a > recorder produces no useable musical scale > so everything is in half hole playing. > this probably means that the reed needs trimming down to size to make the scale work. (check by fingering for an octave, in this case the octave will be flat) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 12:03:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E28273BE84; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=E6QEb3Ray0r5glQVcdoQQ0QFkjIUKQgCUewGH9RR82qNYRZPhjXfZHRuJB2zsLK7gRRmI7ZZnv8yUALugNydxUC7YDbxnTC//AJB3umGC6gilZMS+H7OZGxQ7Vtz5SwWu+dpikwd8StFumUEH53ljny57IWKbdLUsulLS3TbsOM=; X-YMail-OSG: lpG2x.YVM1ntqEjCpslZXqDShr0dnvbMTeQZSyB_A104PIiW1Z7hEpj4sV9Ynqsq2BZKJFLnLHnShmx75OfikLSRQ8b_Loyli3mmGhNRhZRCjbYQIe8lZATuRA1.GcEsTQfcvCWbYobTeyfnZRx2NASDWdyw4moNoHdxYTPxL7vWceO_EpweC347gV4- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Reyn_vs=2E_Bj=F6rk?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <496263D8.6040900@gordius.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <496222.43222.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0HwXBC.A.vIF.Mi0YJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:03:24 +0000 (UTC) thanx Xavier, will chaining FCs add to midi response latency? also i wonder if he is sett= ing up the nosie floor tolerance of the looper higher that usual to avoid m= ic bleeding? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 1/5/09, GORDIUS info wrote: > From: GORDIUS info > Subject: Re: Reyn vs. Bj=F6rk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 11:47 AM > Hey Luis, >=20 >=20 >=20 > it's the GORDIUS Big Little Giant... He's indeed > using an adapted > FCB1010 as slave controller to the LG-X. I was just talking > to Reyn > about this a minute ago. Apart from the LG-X and the FCB, > he's also > using a few Boss pedals to control the EDPs, just because > all > instruments are so far apart.... Actually he could chain > up to 3 > FCB1010 boards combined with the LG-X for > "centralized" control of > everything. That would give a combined 32 presets per bank, > controlled > from 3 floorboards, the third FCB would just duplicate the > LG-X > switches. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > L.Angulo wrote: >=20 > what is that pedalboard with flashing lights? what id > find difficult from this type of looping is the mic bleeding > danger and setting up the footcontrollers to trigger the > looper functions from all angles,is he daisy chaining them? > dont see a behringer FCB1010 unthinkable! >=20 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 > --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Nick > wrote: >=20 > =20 > =20 > From: Nick > Subject: Re: Reyn vs. Bjrk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 2:49 PM > amazing! >=20 > On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Michael Peters > wrote: > =20 > =20 > check out Reyn Ouwehand's livelooping version of > a > =20 > =20 > Bjrk tune > =20 > =20 > http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWKcw8XtYPK4&fmt=3D18 >=20 > -m=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 6 13:51:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BDD33BE84; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:51:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=NoWbi3Tklm2zyGz3esJaYNrn7LSvMjEPUwdFSTcnFZ8=; b=ErqTLBpxLdcDMrVW0mhOUncMLZWcWqGv+gnBU5Yb+jffrVRsASzHVxJwyhQ/oWbXm9 Oc0yGIawsjEDpFxLVb/TskDwoLcRdDzeSdJ8rH10uw32t0f8iXD33q8q7ECIfDlhk+l7 ZeXlS/zdAZ0Gokz6/u+STeAw1HaJOBsB7bKP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hr7xwGMpNwdP4UsKd3fTvAQFPOHmUwB1QPcxp6nRGawB993PeaAq4YdXYU6wra5GhW gYAEmpGBdqIuSZeVpNbp1aFmDQJmYX9Buewg4pbuD5pceZCtM4ybugBRewcNcyYfS/+w xowC+cyXOzIqoAockFuemFYV8N0cdTtPPvxDY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0901060551g58db024do8c436a1d401b34a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:51:17 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Finding people to play with/learn from In-Reply-To: <4962EF6B.3040208@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4962EF6B.3040208@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/87395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:51:19 +0000 (UTC) Nick, I agree with all Rick's advice and won't repeat them. Here's just another trick: Define what you want to do and make a poster that calls for collaborators. Walk around at crucial local places and tape that poster to walls. Over here I went to music schools and film schools to put up my poster. A good old trick that always works. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen - www.perboysen.com > Nick asked: > > "As a young (still in college!) aspiring live looper currently in san > luis obispo, I've found it amazingly hard to find like-minded people > to play with, either just jamming or getting a regular group together. > Can anyone recommend any places to go, either actual places or > websites, to find people interested in music beyond just regular > rock/punk bands." 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