From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 00:01:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8196C3BF5F; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=P7rE1ytjHZ4A:10 a=Dz07lLuSCtYcD_Qds-gA:9 a=nS90MwNxdYIrNqKm5Ax5Tqc5jQAA:4 a=by2dKgXnggYA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <697303AE-BF86-4C00-8184-A7C8E634E56B@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: cello for airports...tomorrow at SFO Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:00:57 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:01:04 +0000 (UTC) hey everyone, i'm playing a 3 hour gig tomorrow at SFO. i'm calling it "cello for airports" as an homage to the best airport music ever written. mine won't be nearly as good, but in addition to my old fan favorites, i do plan on making some appropriate cello ambiance with the goal of making everyone less stressed. the concert is pre-security, in the mezzanine of terminal 1 at the San Francisco Airport. 11am to 2pm Fridays, August 1st, 15th & 29th (can i call this a "residency" at the airport?) besides my fondness for unusual gigs, since i've had so many bad airport experiences, i'm hoping this concert series will even out the karmic balance between me and the TSA. hope they can hear! bestestly, zoe From royalerranddeliveryltdng11@gmail.com Fri Aug 1 04:47:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 397 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:47:25 UTC Received: from email1.nuxit.net (email1.nuxit.net [195.114.18.79]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A7AE93BF55 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11800 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2008 04:40:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mutu3.nuxit.net) (192.168.3.20) by email1.nuxit.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2008 04:40:44 -0000 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: YOUR HONESTY PAYMENT From: DR SAMUEL SODEH. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 04:58:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4073B3BF59; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zNCPf6OFnM+3zNvZWTKY81Vk3BvTfuhJtmcgTJujLBo=; b=nvnWnQfSrPI8GqeavjWXIZoGUJRULKRulnY/sbVqmMMPn5Hj9BRJNRIt4XwIlIl8TJ 5AINholeIDd6SLm89cOGbNouW43e9vXo/Pfz2DUgL/KvbMIoKsjU9LeyvUCVzwc5ET4n VlyCPfsQ+sCvEYfYZmSQAZpwt7GMScwBBH0eE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=RaDePsgYWDdbNmJuDJZ+/Wf+kzZ7kwctvQXuayPNkWy7n6guFjdnDi1bGbKeFfKvx5 a0CT76+byLlXpDHDusfqYwhMf+ay1EvP+yHCvdJTu8vKMuBOwsHcTH+2OpMcDC7sB330 i+tv1JkP/NxGq+ZsoRHD4Nx6zSuq4uC7w+B4s= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:58:17 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055" References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:58:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem??? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mark francombe wrote: > The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if > it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a > forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. > thank you very much! > > .m.x > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > >> Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes >> with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no > ------=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem???

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. thank you very much!

.m.x

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! 



--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no

------=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 05:24:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D16B3BF5A; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 05:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=EhMOCcR9keXjkQCMlfMiHlh7sSnKyO3M4d7Sh1r6BZ0=; b=oePvAFEX+6VRW7jyqh/Y4e2/F+LacBilLwae3BUhpZHvGX4fHpjg+hRk+umSuIgsIG vb9ycnUSzlXIQqBHKGdqn1/+S7C3c8qE3hIYlKMh/F0wMEy9Hyb6xsMOS+5I1QguxnPA vkukPUoaqqkKHoPR54OMUmNdFxhnm7R9zy1Rc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=khh0oZg7uyX9owSJO0K8Xu5ZEZpUEOcbu95kx6pp1Qd6XJnUGSjuAmgWzeBt3BPA5m 1QlsFm/ld5eLBIt7/CjoLnZkDw0HS/dew1Syw8zo0LhMfeqTANjsc0CsG39f3mef3uov UW1fsPhi5iI04fraNkLdDsGqIZ7F3WB1WyTUo= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:24:02 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348" References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 05:24:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The MIDI Buddy can't send the right sort of MIDI commands to control an EDP. The Behringer can. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem??? > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180 > > > ------=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The MIDI Buddy can't send the right sort of MIDI commands to control an EDP.  The Behringer can.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem???

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180



------=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 06:18:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9933E3BF62; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52101490/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhQCAE1GkkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIinUjpTaDUQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,290,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52101490" Message-ID: <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:18:15 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Be careful, to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller with switches that either a) send Midi-On/Off b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release of the switch Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, it's cheap, but sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty of patience ;-) There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???) Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending commands. andy butler mark francombe wrote: > The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe > if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and > join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp > just fine.. thank you very much! > > .m.x > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin > wrote: > > Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it > comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT > SUCKS !!!! > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 06:33:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2576F3BF50; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000e01c8f3a0$85edf2e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: MIDI foot controllers (was: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:33:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:33:37 +0000 (UTC) The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I haven't tried to use it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and much smaller than the FCB1010. If you want to build your own MIDI controller, there is excellent information here: http://www.ucapps.de/ Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 07:46:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E35AE3BF63; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:46:04 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:46:06 +0000 (UTC) > There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???)= Yep, the older FC-2000 and the latest model is the FC-300. Each pedal can= be programmed as follows: - Type of midi message: CC but you can also send other type of midi data - Range: This sets the range for values that are transmitted (minimum + m= aximum value) - Mode: * Latch =3D The ON and OFF will alternate each time you press the pedal * Momentary =3D The value will be ON while you press the pedal, and OFF w= hen you release the pedal. - Amp control jack 1 + 2 Btw: I haven't used it with an EDP ;) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 07:59:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB7A33BF69; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=s0sIO+8c6xatUqWYzWfVjgm91aGSbKEbdF9Y+39d7Fc=; b=jZlttS3LixKBuf8KDvUsc5tz7/8rFKqBBEwPA6J7YiKoR3SoGClfzN6GnM4vj48Ca3 gDazcplBRyyQpDw1bNbd447TKt1+nv7IcXRI7FGBc5LxSFBqawKWuH1vi57GyzkIXt0F hroWFIZG4wuQtim5JdsJQ9KDgSNTOMEuyKegI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=ftqFwQaiFEv2jXkMpHSNnT1rSUajG3g6s/zsH9keSl6XhpDurJMRLFOn/CzyycO+Wt 66lD5F+JXg11JgDyUb1LZCEjLd5CzWTnHcnUkwWDXDXDIWME/lLlx/+AxbKFsejHAI5A pa+uIpi+DlUPG8nsTxwHjO7AXc1CyoE68yS1k= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808010059vcc304e0p2dabba233539763c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:59:20 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus + Behringer pedal...zee final word... I sink not Mr Bond.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7e172c53b04eba9f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:59:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'll just third my own vote for the Behringer. There has been ALOT of discussion about it (and other progamable pedals) on this list. Everyone complains about the Behringer, (it IS too big... its IS a little clunky to program - but actually pretty easy when you "geddit" - the hard bit is always trawling through manuals finding the right numbers... OH... for Looperlative learn functionality(Im trying to justify the price of an L here... if I saved all that time spent programming a footpedal, and I cost 1000 kroners an hour, then how much money would i save buying a Looperlative... is how my argument is running at the moment... quite convincing, but I still don't have the cash!!!)) Anyway... serious digression... The other major gripe being the midi channel thing.. if only you could set a midi channel for every switch. However... Did you see the price??? Did you see the price of all other foot-controllers... are you a millionaire? Do you like spending money on things that dont ACTUALLY make a noise? Did you see the price? You are aware that they are only switches arent you? Did you see the price? Why would you spend more when you can spend THIS amount? Is it the BEHRINGER thing (hate the company for ripping off Mackie or some such malarky) well remember this... They also make the FCB1010 Foot controller, a wonderful and did I mention cheap, innovative, high quality product! Sturdier than a "Black box Flight Recorder".. Eight out of Ten Loopers, when asked to state a preference, said that they used the BEHRINGER FCB1010, not only does it taste better, but it washes whiter too! mark. PS. When can I expect the cheque Uli ??? On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:18 AM, andy butler wrote: > Be careful, > to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller with switches that either > > a) send Midi-On/Off > b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release of the switch > > Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, it's cheap, but > sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty of patience ;-) > > There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???) > > Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending commands. > > andy butler > > mark francombe wrote: > >> The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe >> if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join >> a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just >> fine.. thank you very much! >> >> .m.x >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin > aaronaustin88@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it >> comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT >> SUCKS !!!! >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.looop.no >> > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'll just third my own vote for the Behringer. There has been ALOT of discussion about it (and other progamable pedals) on this list. Everyone complains about the Behringer, (it IS too big... its IS a little clunky to program - but actually pretty easy when you "geddit" - the hard bit is always trawling through manuals finding the right numbers... OH... for Looperlative learn functionality(Im trying to justify the price of an L here... if I saved all that time spent programming a footpedal, and I cost 1000 kroners an hour, then how much money would i save buying a Looperlative... is how my argument is running at the moment... quite convincing, but I still don't have the cash!!!)) Anyway... serious digression... The other major gripe being the midi channel thing.. if only you could set a midi channel for every switch.

However... Did you see the price??? Did you see the price of all other foot-controllers... are you a millionaire? Do you like spending money on things that dont ACTUALLY make a noise? Did you see the price? You are aware that they are only switches arent you? Did you see the price? Why would you spend more when you can spend THIS amount? Is it the BEHRINGER  thing (hate the company for ripping off Mackie or some such malarky) well remember this... They also make the FCB1010 Foot controller,  a wonderful and did I mention cheap, innovative, high quality product! Sturdier than a "Black box Flight Recorder".. Eight out of Ten Loopers, when asked to state a preference, said that they used the BEHRINGER FCB1010, not only does it taste better, but it washes whiter too!

mark.


PS. When can I expect the cheque Uli ???



On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:18 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Be careful,
to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller with switches that either

a) send Midi-On/Off
b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release of the switch

Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, it's cheap, but
sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty of patience ;-)

There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???)

Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending commands.

andy butler

mark francombe wrote:
The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. thank you very much!

.m.x

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com <mailto:aaronaustin88@gmail.com>> wrote:

   Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it
   comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT
   SUCKS !!!!



--
www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com>
www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no>




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 08:50:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4F423BF6D; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=FtA+MemPG3CAVk6lXoFUMyTslG2tqaTdRDd99aTC6CQuk6GqOFXUTdoITfIDROMX7EDB1r2MMjYQ6o+/UwyCrecTdQQaZ82tS2H3jmgLCLrjMzbioMdUgJ16lTMPi1rMIWqWDa40BA1JbS33uMHqteiQGlgaHWlou9vv3joGURY=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:50:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <925327.2607.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Ive heard good things about this one http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your questions here is his web http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/gear.htm cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 7/31/08, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 11:18 PM > Be careful, > to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller > with switches that either > > a) send Midi-On/Off > b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release > of the switch > > Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, > it's cheap, but > sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty > of patience ;-) > > There's also a Roland device that some people use > (....anybody here???) > > Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending > commands. > > andy butler > > mark francombe wrote: > > The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... > Its cheap, but maybe > > if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot > more! Buy one and > > join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it > controls the edp > > just fine.. thank you very much! > > > > .m.x > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin > > > wrote: > > > > Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp > because the one it > > comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER > WORKS PROPERLY IT > > SUCKS !!!! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.markfrancombe.com > > > www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:03:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21AB83BF72; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=80FTAdhv4cpcEsIDg45NjCCimj0kivp8+yCjXVoXCQY=; b=YG0RMCWodq/TaVowmEyInCnu0VIffd6JvZGe52C4PH1KQfvlfC9yEW+4l87/PqtUqL cAEtpYQzBGSz8XwIltR3ZfYGcFXtyvxL9CHmsKHEL21pM26fJbz17HxzCHPbjap8Su2E gL5yKOJxvl6Jwo+9A8o+pVBAOUosBzC+SO/O8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=gSjJJa0TfQ/Xn+J8EWp9fcmlKfgaeJmdApTsbfpt0bfqwygEKj21LuQcZ7wm73tBWo 8FaIvOllkYTGAgrvCrQPQ+u7pYNMW04EObpCghV51ty3xqD83lj0noZv3ic7CPwIUkHz 3a/W95ctmoAeDAlzKd3etJ4fMZAzQGWl8XlkE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:03:33 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Friends, I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups for a given set of floor buttons) The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal looping setup: Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:23:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14A173BF70; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7pyfTKjyoxuGqu8Hf/N+J1m4Hc/nDyHFB8aREEVwPoA=; b=t9xPZSNb+8ieJndJss9uo+ZorbJ2M/jVKDm+ZJZRAuJjbZ5RrjSRmkb64MFicv7CaB ASUu4VVhth6athww5F5E4k938NfocO7QOnYoDqDcEqVdFEu3zJIdK+QEsp7TrHHAI4aK pkydDAwUE52TB+2SYZGOTmmDWzTIhaVpO6nSM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=YJ1hOdguszRA7ffOyBXI9DBdj+THimfKj1ybneD6H7vzHkotWgyciD09nSWZZAPXSV x2Wp5yj9xpBWnRgePoDHJRl+dhFeZJ0+krd9y8L/RcnPJRpHvW4M0uNHaSITa4HiIHgY egTdzdGK5EtI7l22dEFUKl5QXL3MYZi/oM6II= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:23:20 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:23:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/1 Per Boysen oh my poor little (per)boy... that's why mamita told you not to have rides from stranges .... raul. So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. > > I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal > looping setup: > Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

oh my poor little (per)boy... that's why mamita told you not to have rides from stranges ....

raul.


So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that.

I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal
looping setup:
Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:28:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DDB03BF75; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=PzaFnCc/AOGdAdxGWXy2YFNGw6WJI0zmBr6embBqvCU=; b=O6r+rbWVE/rSnSSMW/OxVL7oZ1iXFkMA5N8Ca68Ki4pahHZaR6Os7WJKcGfW/dVTn0 DuA/tKRLl8AQpHUuX+qxR4HcX3HIsWQW6WUN0e3dEy89IQe3jSS8flBfgJfR7W1zbUlr 1xwiTgIBDsv+BNcLxaCiBI/VzsaKVANvsKhag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gDKV9GwHsqRUjPNV99D8FN6qYx+nevsgQ2HR3k0WqZetM5i2PYlCtdF4sOutGnYzCh eltxlQl/tthCk2XfnNBIVydWbobC1XM4FPd3Tle7XN0tfY/+b9s1TM4NUFOsrqDzHhPt Bib4IFAeso28f3UslijWgmEIbgwZ4+1tFJhtQ= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:28:11 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:28:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ... and now! ... run away from ghostly scripts in the dark !! 2008/8/1 Per Boysen > Hi Friends, > > I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I > just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd > just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having > just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand > control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and > coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, > gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with > touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a > foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many > years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups > for a given set of floor buttons) > > The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged > in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my > playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the > instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to > decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I > tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the > rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to > accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are > only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different > combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift > off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! > It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action > sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for > the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. > So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. > > I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal > looping setup: > Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
... and now! ... run away from ghostly scripts in the dark !!

2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Hi Friends,

I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I
just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd
just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having
just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand
control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and
coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple,
gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with
touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a
foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many
years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups
for a given set of floor buttons)

The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged
in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my
playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the
instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to
decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I
tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the
rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to
accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are
only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different
combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift
off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was!
It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action
sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for
the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand.
So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that.

I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal
looping setup:
Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:38:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C6CE3BF6E; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=I11c7G+vqo1GvQh/2M1OpJbch4AdBYr1Eqg9ycU0SRW8Xs3yekTZQkfMDfHUcUp89xXFX/VUv6T7FhyKBibHsJ18wC/8ch2B7MUurVlYTC2c/TdbAWPj770HrZuruNEiS22SEo1N/6ix40GbN6lWLYorLWpN6AqGu8C1CeFIVLE=; X-YMail-OSG: qJrteg4VM1luwu5fiHv1f3uBDyZ2INwaU8w4P6LsI4npIe2xpeft_Xwfu1pk9d6au6KFP5Q9VMnYD9PU_R9IIg3znmkYTCTuQClXdaW3Y5yaKAjcaNvKq7xvIFg- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:38:02 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Graham Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <402592.18015.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2_zfXC.A.6yF.8ltkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:38:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Per, A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply functions. I assume this is possible? Cheers, Ricky Per Boysen wrote: Hi Friends, I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups for a given set of floor buttons) The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal looping setup: Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen --0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Per,
 
A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply functions. I assume this is possible?
 
Cheers,
 
Ricky

Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Friends,

I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I
just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd
just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having
just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand
control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and
coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple,
gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with
touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a
foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many
years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups
for a given set of floor buttons)

The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged
in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my
playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the
instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to
decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I
tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the
rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to
accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are
only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different
combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift
off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was!
It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action
sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for
the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand.
So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that.

I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal
looping setup:
Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen


--0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:40:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2D3E3BF6C; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=XQJa+8kDRRentiLRNGLGKYXirIIQBeZed81/YN1PV9U=; b=qP+T+1jbjUTg0W5mLCOUTrWQQ6Zt2zBmQ6gOPx+jbw46fECtDWJnBTiO6zf/1dwzxl i7isUOcgeLs1gIML6m+8uP2hxbu8tdYB3QsIvtmBY6+4nGPnw3WAwGffTRkMYBxzvi8F JLB18+PdWOX+4OnTZTV2m7KFgE+l64GTD4MyY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=f1xZpMaDdEL3sZqjRXTgHKLPqrPGf1Uxj0/Wm6tne/FS55M1Mhz0L3+gcjQseuaMCk hrkU9rQdniZ5w9fUjo8QWDD6iz23JrKJcDHlvxFITh2A4OS+4PLjYNAaKPwdGXQWuDPs YFogGGeefC+SheC3F/aleIp4/HAb5pbAdyXzA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:40:19 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus In-Reply-To: <003701c8f351$c66b23f0$4101a8c0@STUDIO1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0807311337v5cb41f0fg7bbc106bf1786dc4@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807311342v270eb8d2lbf724acae229627f@mail.gmail.com> <003701c8f351$c66b23f0$4101a8c0@STUDIO1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:40:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline my vote for the same title track. good inspiration and execution. raul. 2008/7/31 Ricky Graham > Enjoyed the clips also! > > Good work. > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM > *Subject:* Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus > > Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record. Appreciate > you taking time to give an electronic spin. > > Best > > Jim > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: >> >>> >>> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm >>> >> >> >> Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those >> clips. >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> >> > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.8/1582 - Release Date: 30/07/2008 > 18:37 > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
my vote for the same title track. 
good inspiration and execution. 

raul.

2008/7/31 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>
Enjoyed the clips also!
 
Good work.
 
Ricky
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus

Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record.  Appreciate you taking time to give an electronic spin.
 
Best
 
Jim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm


Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those clips.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.
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--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:41:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3B7B3BF74; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mfdr9HjHEpbZhzrGvbFh3jcgXLIgMSFW8VpPjvPlP2A=; b=Fku9ikh22MkeyitV5EwDqMJkBbf9A3sMuDYR5aCEe95kdUD07GFmdYhEcJxFHTnT// y6dtZliSn2nl9ADILctPMxppXCltULyIJFgfAIkU9tQtsjm/3JPWH/E7iGzREn41H39/ JX1JyLzGJvi7sHwLUZifiIvKHqT/rtor2QIYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=o2bFl77gQHCAPCqra6h+8q12jB9IO+LMiwWiL+fG6LesJcqu34wsODrSH7/vKvf430 pIQ0FkSTymWq/6ZTCbkvREhrxhDB89HrNaMPJZP1zy8TvMb2dxBDmiQxdMG76y4hS517 BOLCMK+9mUZpUwdCr0+jBGg1yEyndENgoDiQY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:41:41 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0Hd7YC.A.vAG.WptkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:41:42 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... and now! ... run away from ghostly scripts in the dark !! Hmm... please don't misinterpret my last post. "A few powerful and instantly playable" foot control buttons is just my physical tool for reaching open horizons and the infinitely expandable looping universe brought about by user custom scripting and other dark disciplines. I just want to start the music in my heart, as opposed to acting along technically pre defined routs. What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind will follow - here in glorious musical creativity. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:45:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 447CE3BF79; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=/JL+duoABR7sbTb7Yo8vccTe45CKTDEWjg+SnDIyR2s=; b=p/3MToUJGv8l636Yng1C3S8CbpqWaBOTRoyN7nRvOYbF1S+zpJc4K8LlnW7C0EPiT7 Wyb/N6K9z04pkG1uaZadbryA+TxWGmWFz1T4T40yy0JvkJNra1fmII5/KOUw54INq8IU EHjvUGSeGKbcocyPdCSTW3lQ07ek5N+Kae9dw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BtXpP9EdCBkjWRG0UPq6S6SuFHsCwRIdbkf//XMgrb8n6dImj2vN3LIelKOUlOtEHq H+Tw/NDKhTT38ahWm1ziMq0cDqoY3iV1gklf7B7B1j4w/LtwyKYUkcBfV0RhRI/vdtJj W4OEhPOWNpsCyHAPE3qs3gcF9mb0+guKu5GEg= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:45:55 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:45:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/1 Per Boysen What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to > master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind > will follow - here in glorious musical creativity. > I really like this P mode ! Gloorioooous !! -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>


What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to
master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind
will follow - here in glorious musical creativity.


 
I really like this P mode !
Gloorioooous !!



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:48:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 681CD3BF78; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QT1krM9r7cJZnPImoopBFnciQJmXD+5AU2f42EpP3Ps=; b=wy2qGHM700TXu/GRDTTh0gOCmJRR2wsWktKdumFyH3/y0pVcADowGp8GF6BpNRXy0x oVb6ed1LGbk4xT1YkeJ6fkEHm8B4H6R+Qwvr9FNcVpN56cLbObPza+vW0yYe8WMVlPVO suy0T1o2PE+BxAWlaR1W1FvtWC5wptmW35PW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=m3MXnDBy4SMcjCsI5FTEiCTY6ApO+SaDrGtwqAqFr01EUbx62Jx0Su8G5J6fuFvHdM h2xwNWARKmcCrZqrBP3onh02S1W6nowy86tZgue3WaIxgoEh//34FkhglzsdVsXtGKPM c3EsXbyMpfGXkrqLI2T0VzCCiCinWMRf1pQVs= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010248i3beadb47iac96a471df619706@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:48:30 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <402592.18015.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <402592.18015.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:48:31 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Richard Graham wrote: > Hi Per, > > A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP > for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to > additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply > functions. I assume this is possible? Hi Ricky, I guess your assumption is correct, but you can easily check out in the manual: http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:50:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55CC83BF73; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=25pA7j/pWUNzgmduyVVgWZUOYjIlhg5ZtaRndRwhZsw=; b=Rv2UnbA/jXcQt87zEAdh0RqhRbMHwpEp3b6b9YhvG9HqJgy5eOVPa16HBCL7xJhbqk uD1T8ovwSQKcvIrorTasw+y5H2OnHfvvFAEUF5jEur/Q59Gyr4rKhKgaFu6ikWZ9ruQe F+2oR5ud759cXbvXOLb9AeH3blbVo6bQzHHFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=tRlfpdyzAF480G7yZIlzEbkEpbGnyIDEdZg91deoCEKTyQb2WrfVIuaE2nGJAnyN9j cz9c1KklKBHbPkhcGhfKsiQSzV+KS5dSf7onkLK/DAk08QNxbSNkydEgWHjjaRfJklbY 2euIB4++slDFT2V9pApN8Omvk7aqSQNPatvmA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:50:44 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:50:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline for the plex, I use to program a pair of banks in the fcb. basic/quick functions in the first and others (like triggers) for the second.. i'm done. raul. 2008/8/1 Raul Bonell > > > 2008/8/1 Per Boysen > > > What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to >> master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind >> will follow - here in glorious musical creativity. >> > > > > I really like this P mode ! > Gloorioooous !! > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
for the plex, I use to program a pair of banks in the fcb. basic/quick functions in the first and others (like triggers) for the second.. i'm done.

raul.

2008/8/1 Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>


2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>


What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to
master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind
will follow - here in glorious musical creativity.


 
I really like this P mode !
Gloorioooous !!



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:00:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A552D3BF83; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 55259465/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8AAEV7kkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIixilW4NR X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,292,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="55259465" Message-ID: <4892DEDB.2080604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:00:59 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> <000e01c8f3a0$85edf2e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <000e01c8f3a0$85edf2e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Bob Amstadt wrote: > The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I haven't tried to > use it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and much smaller than > the FCB1010. It's excellent for the edp. ( I replaced my fcb with one a while back) ...but expensive !!!! for me, it's worth it, for the weight saved and the possibility of edp tricks. andy butler > > If you want to build your own MIDI controller, there is excellent > information here: http://www.ucapps.de/ > > Bob Amstadt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:02:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C21B03BF6F; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:02:41 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <6I-zd.A.tkG.D9tkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:02:43 +0000 (UTC) > Luis wrote > Ive heard good things about this one > http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html > Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your questions > here is his web Hey Luis, how's life? :) Yes, the FC-300 is a very flexible controller. F= or example, it can send up to 6 control change messages per expression pe= dal on different midi channels. And has been very reliable so far. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:11:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62A173BF76; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52314025/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8AANZ9kkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIixilb4NR X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,292,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52314025" Message-ID: <4892E154.2040505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:11:32 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9RpxV.A.IxG.LFukIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak wrote: >> There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???) > > Yep, the older FC-2000 and the latest model is the FC-300. Each pedal can be programmed as follows: > - Type of midi message: CC but you can also send other type of midi data > - Range: This sets the range for values that are transmitted (minimum + maximum value) > - Mode: > * Latch = The ON and OFF will alternate each time you press the pedal > * Momentary = The value will be ON while you press the pedal, and OFF when you release the pedal. > - Amp control jack 1 + 2 > > Btw: I haven't used it with an EDP ;) > If you use the * Momentary setting, and set the EDP ControlSource = CC this should be ok for EDP I haven't had one to do latency tests on tho'. (unlikely it's bad...but best to check) Incidently latency tests for fcb1010 FC7 (the edp non-midi controller) Gordius Little Giant show them all to be good, all 7mS or under when the EDP latency is included (triggering sample) Not much difference between them, with the Gordius being slightly faster. andy butler > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:59:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C5043BF7E; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FEUWhyTCtt9SIUPaX3+c+S/N9VzzgqfIU8UOGL0QGai4t4jJF6W7+5rCHNpufVls/RMS3R8bwlI+EFerWsLsnZeX4MHXMqTRUeqraIH9uzHXMqZpsGr3aPwQJc2YT0H0YxYE/L7wQx8vE0Hwgq/nlbrQnarr/CvMgho7SPhHhrU=; X-YMail-OSG: zS9ve4UVM1nxL_gfH4c.fXGfIkfLfCOqhbFfRxIXoOvEK3t3qVownz66lKuwWP_a9D4U02ST61vsVstS7yruSS997j4bZYqpEIo7E8xTQZ3AvLFh_SZIVhNO4xI- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:59:26 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Graham Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010248i3beadb47iac96a471df619706@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <16589.68747.qm@web86108.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:59:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks, Per! Ricky Per Boysen wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Richard Graham wrote: > Hi Per, > > A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP > for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to > additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply > functions. I assume this is possible? Hi Ricky, I guess your assumption is correct, but you can easily check out in the manual: http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen --0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Thanks, Per!
 
Ricky

Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Richard Graham
wrote:
> Hi Per,
>
> A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP
> for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to
> additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply
> functions. I assume this is possible?


Hi Ricky,

I guess your assumption is correct, but you can easily check out in the manual:
http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen


--0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:01:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D811B3BF85; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:01:14 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:MIDI foot controllers (was: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:01:16 +0000 (UTC) > Bob Amstadt: > The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I haven't tried to= use > it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and much smaller than the > FCB1010. Hi Bob :) Gordius sure makes interesting products but as most of the manu= facturors their target is the guitar player. But maybe I should try one a= nd see if it works for me. As a keyboard player it's very difficult to know what's going on with my = LP1 on stage. It build in a 6HE 19" rack and standing on the floor at the= right site, I'm playing piano so it's can't see the track leds very well= . For example: current track, track status etc. And as a result of that, = things go wrong. I have progammed my FC-300 in a way that the patch number display indicat= es the track number but I have no way to know the status of a track or th= e status of features like reverse, speed etc. The FC-300 latch mode can d= o this but unfortunaltely the LP1 does not support latch mode (=3D on and= off will alternate each time you press the pedal), so the LED's are alwa= ys off. Besides that, most standalone midi devices don't send the status info bac= k to the midi controller, so when you change from track to track, your co= ntroller will probably show the wrong status anyway.... Do you know any c= ontroller which would work like this? What about Gordius? BTW: using a laptop with a DAW controller or a controller like the Jazzmu= tant - Lemur could do this but that would cost a fortune :) See http://ww= w.jazzmutant.com/ --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:03:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 916B53BF8B; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=NhqX51ppp2VITL3lK+lFqmiSax2MIY67TOtv5wsO518=; b=mR1MJ0LQMeE79v6wDGfnYjPLjNqHrtg+vra127kf7AF4/BaQutTBOoWdU4CYZmeX2W JJmfc/bRlrLT814WPq2DXnCphQFV+3PaLWcVD9uBI0YHFIgM4v4XRLLZ7dmr9jPM5vvb vDwGpxNHHLz9Rg2V3ntCKf46kuJPGAEpxplPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=G2FvCQNmlCQltBoOCb5zYtNmtJ9eOAV8XDySveD8toFd2Y+/PUIe+5rBRiDE+DuGTm 2X3taGe8ivQ4e3bj9ItxCafTOAxnzaaEcUKYgvhZhM0kliia1uclIuVIGaHYjG7P+dDl bIPkW7a1QKkhllpCvuBPT/E+onRR8sOpVK+A0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:03:30 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: GIG SPAM and CD Release: New York, Friday/Boston, Saturday! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628" Resent-Message-ID: <3qLzyC.A.TjH.E2ukIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:03:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tonight ... a *No Eclipse Party*! Someone said there was an eclipse tonight ...not on MY stage! I'm starting off a busy weekend tonight, playing for the first time in New York City. Here's details: *07:00 PM to 11:00 PM* *Think Coffee* *248 Mercer Street* *New York, New York* Appearing in New York for the first time at Think Coffee! 4 Hours of Live ambient/experimental guitar improv ... *248 mercer street (between 3rd & 4th st) New York, NY (212) 228-6226* * *I'll have copies of the latest CD release, "*...this warming spring earth*", for sale (and some oldies, too!). There's a sample track from the CD here: http://audiozoloft.com/CDs/Warming/ ... and then, *SATURDAY IN SOMERVILLE!* 08/02/2008 07:00 PM - The Nave (Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church) 155 Powderhouse Blvd., Somerville, MA, 02144 Cost: $7.00 Donation FIVE KNAVES @ THE NAVE Five musicians from literally across the Northern Hemisphere--from Maine and Massachusetts to New York and Oaxaca, Mexico--will gather to perform for an evening of musical exploration and improvisation ... featuring: *Chinapainting *{*Daryl Shawn & Jim Goodin*}( http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com), *Tim Nelson *( http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes), *Dennis Mose*r (http://audiozoloft.com), and *Rob Byrd* (http://www.robbyrd.com). Should be a great evening, as the acoustics at The Nave are a delight. I hope some of you can make either of these performances; both will be recorded for later sharing and distribution. Joe Bob Briggs would say, "What a great way to kick off August!" Best to all and keep on looping! Dennis (and yes, I beat Zoe by an hour ... she and I have joined the TIPLOSS Fingertip Replacement Plan for Looping Musicians!) ------=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Tonight ... a No Eclipse Party!  Someone said there was an eclipse tonight ...not on MY stage!

I'm starting off a busy weekend tonight, playing for the first time in New York City. Here's details:

07:00 PM  to 11:00 PM
Think Coffee
248 Mercer Street
New York, New York
Appearing in New York for the first time at Think Coffee!
4 Hours of Live ambient/experimental guitar improv ...
248 mercer street (between 3rd & 4th st) New York, NY (212) 228-6226

I'll have copies of the latest CD release, "...this warming spring earth", for sale (and some oldies, too!). There's a sample track from the CD here:

http://audiozoloft.com/CDs/Warming/

... and then,

SATURDAY IN SOMERVILLE!

08/02/2008
07:00 PM - The Nave
(Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church)



155 Powderhouse Blvd.,
Somerville, MA, 02144
Cost: $7.00 Donation

FIVE KNAVES @ THE NAVE Five musicians from literally across the Northern Hemisphere--from Maine and Massachusetts to New York and Oaxaca, Mexico--will gather to perform for an evening of musical exploration and improvisation ... featuring: Chinapainting {Daryl Shawn & Jim Goodin}(http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com), Tim Nelson (http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes), Dennis Moser (http://audiozoloft.com), and Rob Byrd (http://www.robbyrd.com).


Should be a great evening, as the acoustics at The Nave are a delight. I hope some of you can make either of these performances; both will be recorded for later sharing and distribution.

Joe Bob Briggs would say, "What a great way to kick off August!"

Best to all and keep on looping!

Dennis

(and yes, I beat Zoe by an hour ... she and I have joined the TIPLOSS Fingertip Replacement Plan for Looping Musicians!)
------=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:25:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B73033BF87; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:25:49 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: RE: Looping Strategies MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Kevin Kissinger wrote > I organize my loops into four* categories: > 1) Very Short Loop (VSL): less than one measure long > 2) Short Loop: lasts from one to four measures (< 10 seconds) > 3) Long loop: greater than four measures (> 10 seconds) > 4) Manual loops: done without hardware -- the musician simply Kevin, thanks for your reply. I'm using different loops length and do sol= o's as well but I didn't fully realize the impact of them on the structur= e of a song. I prefer to analyse things and to work in a logical way; you= r tips helps me to understand why certain things work and others not. I'v= e been practizing with different combinations of loop lengths last week. = It's funny to experience the differences while playing live :) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:27:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10CB03BF84; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Nk1VVVJ3gmAA:10 a=YXOspHT6iKkA:10 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=iwUlkf_-VjYCf289aYkA:9 a=SYKTfO3MePG4mXtN88oA:7 a=CqesisBjpKsLElroYSqY0_UQM4QA:4 a=rCbS6JjwtmAA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <453A1EF6-964E-4461-8AED-FB8A380E932F@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:27:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Per, Have you tried Bome's Midi translator? It's now available for OSX. It has opened up all sorts of possibilities. I can now use Live for pretty much everything. Why Live has not implemented native midi control of keystrokes is beyond me. But, you can program strings of commands like you were wanting to. Why not combine both approaches? Chris On Aug 1, 2008, at 5:03 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Friends, > > I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I > just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd > just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having > just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand > control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and > coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, > gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with > touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a > foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many > years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups > for a given set of floor buttons) > > The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged > in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my > playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the > instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to > decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I > tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the > rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to > accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are > only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different > combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift > off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! > It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action > sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for > the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. > So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. > > I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal > looping setup: > Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:38:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC07D3BF89; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4WOgo5ZOKen0dCSpUZPZP9IB0efkBZlzHxMtfX51arU=; b=Hxfxo3J/jzlFgx7FcmZ6JY6pRYg3S7I8+aR/d9hXlI/DISY38QWMx4x0GAWhU1XDSu 4EdvXaQnWxRHKkH1zXlYuqdVRTGIjd7brWq5pdK0T0S++E4DDOM78AoCKNThfFWDGmDx Clm3xp3oPD98NR6rd2TqOLsCw8cJ57O1fiByo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=rlOI9+7BvqHaSgF5kOQ1IpeVZeq9GPCXEcIetEQH/OIMjslqXOPdTuUOVVfqFxK7mo iZhpjzOEP3+hwT41tcF6U37kUN6baqIk3SvchpB4F6Q0ZmeWU2SxF9/mLzcf5en+ZlC2 zZ6sxoTnSbPtlvqNT8/1SfADTSGjXxhL2AFaM= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010438u7b8e520off3523afd6974240@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:38:55 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <453A1EF6-964E-4461-8AED-FB8A380E932F@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <453A1EF6-964E-4461-8AED-FB8A380E932F@comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: <0cnQzD.A.HU.PXvkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:38:55 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Per, > Have you tried Bome's Midi translator? It's now available for OSX. It has > opened up all sorts of possibilities. I can now use Live for pretty much > everything. Why Live has not implemented native midi control of keystrokes > is beyond me. But, you can program strings of commands like you were wanting > to. Why not combine both approaches? > Chris Yes, I have tried Bome's. It's great! I'd recommend it to everyone that uses Live and needs to get at computer key commands by using external MIDI control gear. Not of much interest to me right now though, since I have no interest in using Live for live looping. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:55:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EC773BF86; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=5clFshtem4khnM7Vd+GCD6o92BBcZzYyi0WXs3jVKBrHtg8rvrd2DKjRnnxZa/zPKlMlsxf/GlykUiYauJaIiCjpXm5ar6tu02bq8N0pDXmxd1T5KGvE4VyM9YQ9IWCKhuUraoTDXe8ilN0Zl2TkkiHav1vqxMng72xWXCx0IWI=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:55:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <149923.44022.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6RtZGD.A.wl.DnvkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Hey Sjaak! Life is good still alive brother,thanx for the info,it certainly looks a lot more flexible than the FCB1010,the only thing that bothers me is the pedal layout,with the fcb1010 instant access to all the EDP midi functions is easier,so with the fc300 there would be more tap dancing involved. cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 3:02 AM > > Luis wrote > > Ive heard good things about this one > > http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html > > Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your > questions > > here is his web > > Hey Luis, how's life? :) Yes, the FC-300 is a very > flexible controller. For example, it can send up to 6 > control change messages per expression pedal on different > midi channels. And has been very reliable so far. > > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 12:26:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CE303BF90; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:26:36 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <88nEOB.A.SGB.-DwkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Luis wrote: > it certainly looks a lot more flexible than the FCB1010,the only thing = > that bothers me is the pedal layout,with the fcb1010 instant access to = all > the EDP midi functions is easier,so with the fc300 there would be more = tap > dancing involved. Yes, tap dancing, true....but see it as an addition of your live show :) = The FC-300 works fine for me but I'm still looking for something better, = see my previous reply about the LP1 and my FC-300. I mean: the FC-300 is = a flexible and reliable board but a foot controller and a 19" rack looper= can hardly be seen when you play keyboards...the visibility on stage is = pretty poor, I'm not always in control :) Floor boards are maybe not ideal for me, I need a kind of combination. 1 = or 2 expression pedals on the floor and a desktop controller which I can = put on top of my piano with maybe 10 stomp box switches with LED's to con= trol a rack looper. I don't know yet... --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 12:38:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EA3F3BF8C; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=raNK/58ku7q5v+0FtVflGUgORhiEIM/F10786x4HMKY=; b=kEl2agO45VmJlmOowYuo8NqIfwMSflZDTUNzI3yhRMqEv4QCp32R/bBMhCOR1KNKMP Ow7l2omKqCiZW8c6MmdlpYUw1j3GJgw6npTZeLzCJgy2HszQF8q9/mSfjnIuQftOIVvp gN989cy/dh55HTmzqxMZFxw+0Jbn00trBtICk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=aKTl+y8D4uQxDc6P7AWuALVAWacjiB5HUUXUV7ogMwKTcM3ghufUH0gXzyhav9h72n RCz0n61rrtqJ/CbCuyUUmmOMjC3i/PD6jtZAdUpI7KJ2V3MqnjozzeMDV7pV4S0n+jWS /FwuGbg6Wvl9uxSIvFu4O0aSZnZy8mPXr/06M= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808010538v4e4d0f09kd26d4845f07e1fff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:38:06 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4217_13633137.1217594286705" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0807311337v5cb41f0fg7bbc106bf1786dc4@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807311342v270eb8d2lbf724acae229627f@mail.gmail.com> <003701c8f351$c66b23f0$4101a8c0@STUDIO1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:38:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4217_13633137.1217594286705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline RIcky and Raul thanks so much for the positive words. Jim On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > my vote for the same title track. good inspiration and execution. > > raul. > > 2008/7/31 Ricky Graham > > Enjoyed the clips also! >> >> Good work. >> >> Ricky >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Jim Goodin >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM >> *Subject:* Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus >> >> Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record. Appreciate >> you taking time to give an electronic spin. >> >> Best >> >> Jim >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm >>>> >>> >>> >>> Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those >>> clips. >>> >>> -- >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >>> www.looproom.com (international) >>> www.myspace.com/perboysen >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> Chinapainting - >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Chinapainting on My Space - >> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - >> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >> Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel >> Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.8/1582 - Release Date: 30/07/2008 >> 18:37 >> >> > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_4217_13633137.1217594286705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
RIcky and Raul thanks so much for the positive words.  Jim

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
my vote for the same title track. 
good inspiration and execution. 

raul.

2008/7/31 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>

Enjoyed the clips also!
 
Good work.
 
Ricky
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus

Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record.  Appreciate you taking time to give an electronic spin.
 
Best
 
Jim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm


Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those clips.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.
Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.8/1582 - Release Date: 30/07/2008 18:37




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_4217_13633137.1217594286705-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 12:40:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48C333BF8E; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Tspan4uF+q4Lnq++IMEwlkuFZMFXydpODDxanyTbPsY=; b=QAJ3EM6pj2wCIE9dED0mUNxLoqxKvyR1/pOpJTStLihvVKX7AuV3ciz/uhSiiq1dVM uHQPS9cjLlsVGW9NqHP7DFHVY8kGjsrKsrdbImwcWK+HVUJYf6yFBOeQXlqHOhW+aot1 K5hggb/GnkwLuvXYFFRR+NFZdtc015U0d0PiU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=mKAlozuoHti8B1aHKngr/RGg9zOoTGBGTUA2hhWcpzW1rXeioyO48k3e95/jz+RFAL +EoiTg3L6mVLqAASkoGWCKNvTxTNG/SntHywCmlocsCmzPyMiNn3VQRScRiBY+9dO99p 0/JOHTVlzDwilEU3No2fYN4ONbiSnd69NfmDo= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:40:28 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: whats the smallest midi controller??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4180_1009092.1217594428123" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1459c6e4b138d75b Resent-Message-ID: <9pBe-C.A.ViB.-QwkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:40:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4180_1009092.1217594428123 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas? -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_4180_1009092.1217594428123 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas?

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www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_4180_1009092.1217594428123-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 12:54:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E5EC3BF91; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=HH2ZG4S1ld0fFhlmgiwZfcwWNLGEiG6DdtuY2mbHjqQkZNw/39u3ME0Gl1p6FcgfIMguRlCCq0vzS1sHWNQF91u7KvzkHGRjZyI73XUZNmbWnfnZJX9K7iZ0AEF4Y6KAAHrbiKbLzCl1WAtr6sK1marxWCkGTEEv0NU3Ts0p2kY=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 05:54:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4892DEDB.2080604@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <747132.35221.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy, although i recall you had yours modified, right? also i remeber you mentioning something about not being quite satisfied with the switches,not as quiet or something to that effect,also the way the switches are layed out on the gordius looks a bit ackward to me, how is it compared to the FCB1010? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 8/1/08, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 3:00 AM > Bob Amstadt wrote: > > The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I > haven't tried to > > use it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and > much smaller than > > the FCB1010. > > It's excellent for the edp. > ( I replaced my fcb with one a while back) > > > ...but expensive !!!! > > for me, it's worth it, for the weight saved > and the possibility of edp tricks. > > > > > andy butler > > > > > > If you want to build your own MIDI controller, there > is excellent > > information here: http://www.ucapps.de/ > > > > Bob Amstadt > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:05:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06B913BF97; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Y1yksce1Ete3vu1vabBW3We6p31b0a8KKdgqlMdEBnaejDXkCYTKysp+Ge3aU/DHem/428QFnxYt1N0qaoUZWJ5Y5q5o0Kib9LfTzJveT66Syy9MeohzrpP7JRHsRFUSrHGr30vzHCy7Glyblfj1t5NkKnbNGSgSS7mHmwoDDXo=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:05:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: Re:MIDI foot controllers (was: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus) To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <609386.53500.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak, The FCB1010 new Uno software gives you the possibility to set the switches in stompbox mode so you can see current status of the device you want to control.You can set the switches to function as momentary,or toggle,this could help your situation with the LP1 i tried it and is really great because i dont have to be looking at my EDP,but at the moment i have the FCB1010 in normal mode because i am also controlling my effects proccessor and i would have to sacrifice a lot of the EDP functions,so what i am thinking of doing is either getting a floor fx proccessor and use the FCB in stompbox exclusively for the EDP. The Ripwerx software editor is also wonderful and makes the fcb1010 programming "kinderleicht"! Cheers Luis > > As a keyboard player it's very difficult to know > > what's going on with my LP1 on stage. It build in > a 6HE > > 19" rack and standing on the floor at the right > site, > > I'm playing piano so it's can't see the > track > > leds very well. For example: current track, track > status > > etc. And as a result of that, things go wrong. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:18:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F28D3BF94; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=6eJ3aLvbmOMy3MCG9p3oL8bIQip44yYCLePoxzaFsZ0=; b=ab+e+5QuXCO2DXu/sAQvWzKg2MBOigKzqZaP4c8E25AEmz+JPLaTlZl4OSNDZweChl ejsZtov422l2gEoERPGhpHPMS1KN8yNpuKWTYlet/oiXhgcAr1cc0QV3n6493KK6uu9P ie5KpBvi7kzc+l18ZnvsF/LxgeKPkrgjHIVco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=YouqZfXCDd1Rm34qEYsS3+DGlth/s6q2kTegQb5vLrcFCboIkXulOs+Hg1slfw5Apo qBR8vGx6v0Dfd5+RsfFjXNktqKJJKxi9NUE35L9zkUNb+N1bX358JglkPrztOpm/kWP7 oVASBCAc1RvuYuadUkR7L53pndTMnDtGdg4Vs= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:18:44 +0200 From: Vocaloop.com Sender: vocaloop@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 71c97520ff51420c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:18:46 +0000 (UTC) >and a desktop controller which I can put on top of my piano with maybe 10 stomp box >switches with LED's to control a rack looper. I don't know yet... http://www.thomann.de/be/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm 8 switches, not 10 but with 4 encoders, very light, very cheap..(29 euros) greetings, Sanne From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:20:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2CAE3BF9C; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pb63mrvK2PplheoqhQXMORCURfFYAUJm+8PbqLnBU6Q=; b=KbNZeC4UhEuPX/eMX9lCrxEwCxMsvx1TGn7E3HmPooAUZLt6bmhKqwnjBMyIVyRbz7 Pt6ToUt2wdx6fKF6KC31BbcYoVOnRkugn6yk5XlSUhIH2B2lcBbjiJsLZvlAgOnnWsE/ GOU7D2feO/rsq/t9Q6ejSDyGYlLAdM5a/Uq5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=T4dM35/Hh2NzEBbVfBBY3eZP3b/ELDhGOWsAkNt1aXVJe7NPO2mNuKxVdDGvFX7nt0 ad03HJFy5QQxNksH6wIAz6AqL6G7kRNJTzRNWTvIvnZCJqFoKu8Gn8rinn9eFTfX42BZ UJi9p4H/81NcgVz1JjPeeu9dNPZg/ttxC1h58= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010620r28de0635h6ca964d3fb6a4371@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:20:00 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:20:01 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM, mark francombe wrote: > What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs > and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can > do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas? Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it! http://faderfox.de/ -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:21:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EF273BFA2; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 55969462/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AioBANyqkkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIiximIYNQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,293,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="55969462" Message-ID: <48930DE4.5030503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:21:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers Gorduis References: <747132.35221.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <747132.35221.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:21:35 +0000 (UTC) hi Luis, Yes, I had the button layout modified so that I have 2 rows of 5 switches for sending commands. I'm satisfied with the switches, if you hit them as hard as you need to hit the fcb1010 they make a bit more noise ...but you don't need to hit them anywhere near as hard. ...if you push them really slowly they are more or less silent, but of course that's not much use for accurately timed loops. The switches are really solid, and respond very well, making it somewhat easier to be rhythmically precise. I know I went on about the noise a bit to much, but only because another correspondent kept insisting that they are silent ;-) and in reply to sjaak the Gordius Little Giant is aimed at Loopers as well as guitarists! Xavier's been seriously taking on board my suggestions to this end. andy butler ps, Luis, you need to take your email address out of the field in your mail browser if you want reply's to go to the list rather than just to you. L.A. Angulo wrote: > Hi Andy, > although i recall you had yours modified, right? also i remeber you mentioning something about not being quite satisfied with the switches,not as quiet or something to that effect,also the way the switches are layed out on the gordius looks a bit ackward to me, how is it compared to the FCB1010? > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Fri, 8/1/08, andy butler wrote: > >> From: andy butler >> Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 3:00 AM >> Bob Amstadt wrote: >>> The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I >> haven't tried to >>> use it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and >> much smaller than >>> the FCB1010. >> It's excellent for the edp. >> ( I replaced my fcb with one a while back) >> >> >> ...but expensive !!!! >> >> for me, it's worth it, for the weight saved >> and the possibility of edp tricks. >> >> >> >> >> andy butler >> >> >>> If you want to build your own MIDI controller, there >> is excellent >>> information here: http://www.ucapps.de/ >>> >>> Bob Amstadt >>> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:23:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 191EF3BF9D; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=b8G8YulUHi99M/x12ECENpeFN6R3w9+4PVQMmDv/xHg=; b=KrUfFgWa5tS27MCSxGJO6BcZ0KIdKIAQICfOCw5K4chD2Ah9jiACe9zaCM0DrOrjWJ GwaMKUiG1LK83ohftj5MU1S9iUTVRaFXJ9KMiQZ/+Mv5K5qdUFnqPACcQ7jubiqVjsZO TkULXb0ID41YtpRU2qofSNRZn6U18p73xHqpk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ffcdEKAlsZ3EQOwCFVAHk+P+iq3A8mxx3gkjGbgIEjYC689RezX3fASHYcCoBOEdFJ NeEdt9/pP5isjnJ4eUlneQm+u9w9AoS3kcFMCFaDMniI3EB7RTO1Q1QlPx0zXR5HRr2K 3B4adhTlpsThCAJkQWeVzj1pdEJysxlqKZyQE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:23:44 +0200 From: Vocaloop.com Sender: vocaloop@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010620r28de0635h6ca964d3fb6a4371@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010620r28de0635h6ca964d3fb6a4371@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e85cf6e7de01934c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:23:45 +0000 (UTC) See my other post ;-) Probably somewhat bigger than the faderfox but cheaper: http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm greetings, Sanne On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs >> and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can >> do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas? > > > Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it! > http://faderfox.de/ > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:28:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 811733BFA4; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=y3GGjPr6N9S/kQrKgstcb+JuG2sA0nvO0cLdNeV920JajTLaXgjZofYPklJDpPkJ/pbd16H1mTzueKzQ9ECgCqGo9J1xPanyZDFY2iLV3kHg0Zx7cPAo3HY1B1litw+T; Message-ID: <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:28:34 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: <4f776D.A.vpC.H-wkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:28:39 +0000 (UTC) I'm just here at the office enjoying your tracks. Very nice! The music reminds me of Japanese Koto music -- that is, the tonality and the meditative aspect of the music brings the Koto music to mind. The title "Night Blooming Cereus" seems a great fit for the music. -- Kevin Quoting Daryl Shawn : > > It's on the whole more meditative and quiet than our live shows have > been, for whatever reason. Personally, I love it and consider it one of > the best recordings I've been a part of. Samples and stuff here (it'll > be on iTunes and eMusic in a few weeks): > > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:34:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB2C33BFAB; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52283723/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AioBAI+tkkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIiximHYNQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,293,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52283723" Message-ID: <489310F8.1050000@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:34:48 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? References: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010620r28de0635h6ca964d3fb6a4371@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:34:39 +0000 (UTC) but Per loves that little joystick on the Faderfox :-) andy Vocaloop.com wrote: > See my other post ;-) Probably somewhat bigger than the faderfox but cheaper: > > http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm > > greetings, Sanne > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM, mark francombe wrote: >>> What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs >>> and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can >>> do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas? >> >> Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it! >> http://faderfox.de/ >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 14:04:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 553B73BFA9; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=fs2/Bp2F5Yy5P8Q16rq0Bg1UVbvX4fCNpQIXm6lql7g=; b=vextNmSl76qt+ywHpeYNuxTV6fud76VldrUHLZZJR5f1YLgq5obtdx0hhrTOg4t24h 3g6xt/w85NgIDGbICZjhsoVgzUzKppvK7FzpTBQIvd/lSLesgVGNQDpC/hflsAkxhCfY L+64Pb/RN1INqXsUIpMqkYvJkMD+i0vEBayb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=QK04fPhFN4FzvYGalvF6/NNaeJLi9uhJKiSg+Ds1gw0ydaR8vgXcBOlTtjOHcrZUwx PtKD4jvi8W3MiH1CZiubrAoI09/vnEtNle+zJp49REFP+KstTuAAi3gWGhXS6KIsjsHy X+IXoRY0Kb5JIy1NksX4jHwNyfWR/XF+z27Fc= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808010704u6ac02b37q19ea90a7c49b5c67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:04:04 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? 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How many times do we have to say it?? The behriger wins on Price yet again!! On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, andy butler wrote: > but Per loves that little joystick on the Faderfox :-) > > > > andy > > > > Vocaloop.com wrote: > >> See my other post ;-) Probably somewhat bigger than the faderfox but >> cheaper: >> >> http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm >> >> greetings, Sanne >> >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM, mark francombe >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 >>>> knobs >>>> and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i >>>> can >>>> do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas? >>>> >>> >>> Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it! >>> http://faderfox.de/ >>> >>> -- >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >>> www.looproom.com (international) >>> www.myspace.com/perboysen >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_5303_3232012.1217599444188 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
ys i saw the faderfox in action when Per was playing... Liked it, but IM TALKING TINY!!!! Aint there anything REALLY SMALL?? Like matchbox small?

How many times do we have to say it?? The behriger wins on Price yet again!!



On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
but Per loves that little joystick on the Faderfox :-)



andy



Vocaloop.com wrote:
See my other post ;-) Probably somewhat bigger than the faderfox but cheaper:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm

greetings, Sanne

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs
and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can
do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas?

Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it!
http://faderfox.de/

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen








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www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_5303_3232012.1217599444188-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 14:07:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 616B03BFA8; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:07:39 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:07:41 +0000 (UTC) > Vocaloop.com wrote: > See my other post ;-) Probably somewhat bigger than the faderfox but ch= eaper: > > http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm > > Per wrote: > Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it! > http://faderfox.de/ Sanne, thanks! I did know about the bcn 44 but thougth you could program = 4 buttons..it appears to be 8 and that's a lot better! The BCR/BCF-2000 c= ontrollers are even better but also a lot bigger. Per: These DJ faderboxex looks interesting too. I see they are custom mad= e for both Tractor and Live...might work well with an LP1 too, I could ma= ybe use the faders to control volume or feedback. How flexible are they r= egarding the midi functions? --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 14:22:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5D2F3BFAD; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:22:15 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers Gorduis MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy, > and in reply to sjaak > the Gordius Little Giant is aimed at Loopers as well as guitarists! > Xavier's been seriously taking on board my suggestions to this end. I like the Gordius Little Giant because of it's midi capabilities but I play keyboards and I'm wondering if I could place it on top of my stage= piano and use the switches without getting blue fingers! :) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 14:38:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BF643BFB2; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=FYqIf0b5jaWdapiyXWxpg4vLdnUAjZ48fGxqKbR36GQ=; b=WwghrpOcZE1h2AywtbH+gb3DvIBOXsetTTO/h+Kf/RSuZ6ovC6pHYL+N7bBGHJOKbi /1KIxFzIk7oICDKL7VvJW6GisIeOgioaWGq9lAKQNi4Oc2CXKzYGkqiroSqd5E5/gtpk +s9Lv2N/8sxnaAFyHAym8NKmDIZIROnANurYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=D5smZ6ZWoCJNiv2/Bd3dsytFdo1IGfz09GC5TEo0N+vLn+4k1u5+LJ8mKj4PWIJaGZ 4RAZz7inlSLFzF6uDQMOXRumJriNVksJmZvRhL2DMioNT7GlvND/ld+exbjsZ91k57qM 2IvEnfjoNhGnNvnUWzooI7GxBbVPLvkj1UZdc= Message-ID: From: "projektGmail" To: Subject: Wanted Echoplex digital pro plus Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:38:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F3F5.165845C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Dit is een meerdelig bericht in de MIME-indeling. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F3F5.165845C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Loopers I want buy another EDP (for stereo use) but Gibson discontinued the = product. Does anyone know where to get a New EDP. Simon=20 www.projekt67.com ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F3F5.165845C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Loopers
 
I want buy another EDP (for stereo use) = but Gibson=20 discontinued the product.
Does anyone know where to get a New=20 EDP.
 
Simon
 
www.projekt67.com
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F3F5.165845C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 15:15:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2115C3BFB6; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=liomjneOwiBL8wF1U+0NPVD/dCfFQYsX4U6LWdm5G84=; b=JNxCH838/RKxAqW0dOwCZ0yMWW8NajbMpHVYJDVHYaYEqqdWBjnSl0kEmN66Upcz3U ptinSC9a6pezmAbU3jnCQ9Iho5l/aAw0v7HUfCq4tDi9f6S+TuUTGZpG9D1MdAPr/sFs Si/9L4Lj19GKYtt7FKCUJVw+d3+mNg5JSI8bY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=hcMQHwPQgH7cE++Tyh3PbrC9fR7dID19kbgyok7klkO3IPkz3pxO4eXPXxJCW768YS b2zt7ZeQVWEh9UBAXiShtXihSMafV7Mvf6nc0xcjAAbxt3sKXMQLu1vIDxDbI3BbbtFk 6cpcbBRk8mS2Qas+WrqTek8SSev20ZhmDZiI4= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808010815w6599703cpc776f231fd60bcf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:15:02 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus In-Reply-To: <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6662_17295057.1217603702389" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:15:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6662_17295057.1217603702389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Kevin thank you. Interesting re the Koto though not on this record I'm playing a lot of oud right now and using it on our current live shows and in all prob it will figure into our future recording work. Anyhow Kevin thank you for all your thoughts and taking time to listen to our NBC. It's so bizarre to me how the plant figured in to all this but speaks volumes about our balance between chinapainting living on-line through the Net and live when we can arrange getting together. how goes Mr Thermin? best Jim On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:28 AM, wrote: > I'm just here at the office enjoying your tracks. > > Very nice! The music reminds me of Japanese Koto music -- that is, the > tonality and the meditative aspect of the music brings the Koto music to > mind. > > The title "Night Blooming Cereus" seems a great fit for the music. > > -- Kevin > > > Quoting Daryl Shawn : > >> >> It's on the whole more meditative and quiet than our live shows have >> been, for whatever reason. Personally, I love it and consider it one of >> the best recordings I've been a part of. Samples and stuff here (it'll >> be on iTunes and eMusic in a few weeks): >> >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_6662_17295057.1217603702389 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Kevin thank you.  Interesting re the Koto though not on this record I'm playing a lot of oud right now and using it on our current live shows and in all prob it will figure into our future recording work.
 
Anyhow Kevin thank  you for all your thoughts and taking time to listen to our NBC.  It's so bizarre to me how the plant figured in to all this but speaks volumes about our balance between chinapainting living on-line through the Net and live when we can arrange getting together.
 
how goes Mr Thermin?
 
best
 
Jim

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:28 AM, <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
I'm just here at the office enjoying your tracks.

Very nice!  The music reminds me of Japanese Koto music -- that is, the tonality and the meditative aspect of the music brings the Koto music to mind.

The title "Night Blooming Cereus" seems a great fit for the music.

-- Kevin


Quoting Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>:

It's on the whole more meditative and quiet than our live shows have
been, for whatever reason. Personally, I love it and consider it one of
the best recordings I've been a part of. Samples and stuff here (it'll
be on iTunes and eMusic in a few weeks):

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com






--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
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Blank Check® is a registered trademark of Pay-Pal. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 15:43:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFB793BFB4; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=L54a4ZGa+2e1Q2pZSAYh1nszK0RPFK5K+HGiQLwa2T0=; b=RA3DgGe13NEWUd8xjFZmCF3ACcRUa6v/vToUHJAktHs/pk9/5zTygCROpn6Qcyr/rV NQ4zY/Um+6s2ciKjC6OHA1yZF2TqnRaD68vPz/F2ATJW/rdcjMB0FyuLpxOR4l/YUr7b QJWWSutN4LzcLjBs3b5YFGChNR1BPwrq2ylIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=nb6AIpkMcp11P5TD2/62c9uOI6eAc0ziD3hUX+NWrSpKI22XhkNNjsaU+G9xoXqRtR AyXJDFRQfi19GYF7RVSych++dNzYOtyN1vRNfSNEFWHk4iIlgDJT6MzHulG0JwNIJ5Ht WuML1VWNkm8+0kTpmAyH4kS3LhL2hsRhLuyP0= Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b0808010842y4d1c649dkc2de30c39c771d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:42:54 -0400 From: "Loaf citious" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17645_20060235.1217605374662" Resent-Message-ID: <3UDScD.A.BbF.E8ykIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17645_20060235.1217605374662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Guess I'm replying to the original post about being frustrated w/ the FC-7. Took that thing up to the mountains last weekend and it freaked out - had to repeatedly tap the record (and others) until it seemed to "warm up" That experience completely sucked the magic out of the whole thing. It worked eventually. But, this happed right when I got it! Out of the box I was having funny experiences w/ some of the buttons. Is this thing so sensitive that it's effected by dust? Altitude? Temp? WHAT?!?! (or is that the Musicians Friend Special I'm tasting?) I remember someone on this list a while back mentioning that they replaced the little red plastic buttons w/ some sturdy metal ones. Did it help? Did it make it more reliable? I'm going to try to dig up that post but, if was you and you could tell me the name/brand/kind of button you used I'd be grateful. Thanks, AndyGarber ------=_Part_17645_20060235.1217605374662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Guess I'm replying to the original post about being frustrated w/ the FC-7.  Took that thing up to the mountains last weekend and it freaked out  - had to repeatedly tap the record (and others) until it seemed to "warm up"  That experience completely sucked the magic out of the whole thing.  It worked eventually.

But, this happed right when I got it!  Out of the box I was having funny experiences w/ some of the buttons.  Is this thing so sensitive that it's effected by dust? Altitude? Temp? WHAT?!?!
(or is that the Musicians Friend Special I'm tasting?)

I remember someone on this list a while back mentioning that they replaced the little red plastic buttons w/ some sturdy metal ones. Did it help? Did it make it more reliable?

I'm going to try to dig up that post but, if was you and you could tell me the name/brand/kind of button you used I'd be grateful.

Thanks,
AndyGarber
------=_Part_17645_20060235.1217605374662-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 15:59:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC6F53BFAF; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <489332F1.7010208@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:59:45 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:59:46 +0000 (UTC) thanks to all for giving it a listen, and the kind words, much appreciated! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I'm just here at the office enjoying your tracks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:04:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D41EC3BFBE; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: FW: New Delta at Cabrillo Music festival sunday,Aug 3rd @ SC Civic Auditorium Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:03:12 -0700 Message-ID: <005601c8f3f0$1d869900$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C8F3B5.7127C100" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acjzm3eYO7jhtTxkRqSa5UzgJO4BEAAU79Ww Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:04:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C8F3B5.7127C100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, Music lover's, I'm happy announce that Myself, my brother Rick Walker, and Gary Regina will be playing on Sunday evening August 3rd in front of the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium on Church street in downtown Santa Cruz as part of the Cabrillo music festival, we start at 5:15 and the performance is free. We will be performing as New Delta, and playing music inspired by our mutual love of world music traditions. For the looping enthusiasts, there will be much looping, both synchronous and non synchronous. Hope to see you there thanks Bill Walker ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C8F3B5.7127C100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Greetings,   Music = lover’s,

 I’m happy announce that Myself, my = brother Rick Walker, and Gary Regina will be = playing on Sunday evening August 3rd in front of the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium on Church street in downtown Santa Cruz  as part of the Cabrillo music festival, we start at 5:15 and the performance is free. = We will be performing as New Delta, and playing music inspired by our mutual = love of world music traditions.  For the looping  enthusiasts, there = will be much looping,  both synchronous and non = synchronous.

 Hope to see you there =  thanks

 Bill Walker

------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C8F3B5.7127C100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:14:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26E003BFC2; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: New Delta @ Cabrillo Music festival Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:14:09 -0700 Message-ID: <008b01c8f3f1$a42b53f0$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01C8F3B6.F7CC7BF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acjz8aEKoMmdj3RCReSBSnhbMsMOqg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:14:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C8F3B6.F7CC7BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, Music lover's, I'm happy announce that Myself, my brother Rick Walker, and Gary Regina will be playing on Sunday evening August 3rd in front of the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium on Church street in downtown Santa Cruz as part of the Cabrillo music festival, we start at 5:15 and the performance is free. We will be performing as New Delta, and playing music inspired by our mutual love of world music traditions. For the looping enthusiasts, there will be much looping, both synchronous and non synchronous. Hope to see you there Thanks Bill Walker ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C8F3B6.F7CC7BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Greetings,   Music = lover’s,

 I’m happy announce that Myself, my = brother Rick Walker, and Gary Regina will be = playing on Sunday evening August 3rd in front of the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium on Church street in downtown Santa Cruz  as part of the Cabrillo music festival, we start at 5:15 and the performance is free. = We will be performing as New Delta, and playing music inspired by our mutual = love of world music traditions.  For the looping  enthusiasts, there = will be much looping,  both synchronous and non = synchronous.

 Hope to see you = there

  Thanks

 Bill Walker

 

------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C8F3B6.F7CC7BF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:18:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77F323BFBA; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=pKBgTqmKnpTjm3QfwT2Z2Jnwkqnmgw3icGNPcEbIv3M=; b=v7nHa2CQtmYjRqqz73BMxgyl+kLvHGPP0IJlTSXAsEySiu2dvnpsbXrYc3+AhQZK4n hekUhHSQuvI/bxv3TIIQD9R2/9ysH6A9fdIVbvM9ZN5GWMyr/eQX0zyjwa127JBnefIA S0n9/EfyGhXi2XHznZynL2MP0Wh7+8lug7L2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=qvlw2deqEW+i4tR3X2Btoe4mZD+6J8mn/EBPE3DKEiZGIVsAi1TwoejRgJM1xM6EBQ zd50BwQJHjLKMuuSlQGGpPKxmgVa/WAK+/SzKGYdv6dRa3TFOFcRcSvjwK4/pw6PZzJ6 ct8Yteb/AzU0o1cAzwK5U76j2xvYdwMZn7F5o= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:18:46 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: atmospheric guitar looping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: f1587a5e04c9a249 Resent-Message-ID: <5rbbLD.A.dRG.ndzkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I try not to spam the list every time I upload music, but I'm particularly pleased with the latest Darkroom podcast episode. Just some live guitar, with me looping & processing that guitar live in Ableton Live. Live! http://feeds.feedburner.com/FreeMusicFromDarkroom or http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=116026367&s=143444 Enjoy! cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:30:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E42A93BFB8; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=J_zaVKqlKJqxHUl5nLkA:9 a=gdn6xhC7G7xsWvqEacqjZMcyWHwA:4 a=E0t0X0QyNCQA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: Back to Basics. I love it. Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:30:28 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Ah, EDP questions! Midi Foot Controller discussions! I love it. I was getting worried with all the talk of ebows on pianos. (seriously, wtf?). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:44:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88C2D3BFBD; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=P42zGYInen94L0/gYz+obLL1whOK6xO54d9d4upJnyQ=; b=m0R2OIXSzgiWL9srrA2Tks982nQZjquJbQJFaNfes9+M734kbiC8QN7VcJHgiQgTrk Q5eVNa1uf/y+HTvJf9lESxn3wNsBzYwojcVMlumthTzEcvaMQ2dTBLd0rmU/g1/k+eNd eR4Dy/a7+TM23TEdKNyLWomNaEsrOIQe6OK/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=wU9z0I9o2s1TptyMWK76FaQvnyIvVnsXu59SAx+sM+wgM6vUO1xKgJlH6Yhoe7sz02 oqtZSgNwVXr8IrUNDx8Wab6xXbX92pPF2/GNyKUVsWrHW8fm5C01kKHexBoPnuunNDhI l9PuivbSkp7h26Rfv9nReRVv3oHTK2Ppauric= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:44:09 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: <9c3ebb9b0808010842y4d1c649dkc2de30c39c771d9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6393_24259783.1217609049925" References: <9c3ebb9b0808010842y4d1c649dkc2de30c39c771d9@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6393_24259783.1217609049925 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Any piece of electrical equipment will be affected by dust to some degree or another. The EDP switches were carefully selected for a number of reasons: fast response, acoustically quiet, short throw, easy to replace, inexpensive to purchase, readily available. The downside is that they are more prone to dirt getting in them. Usually you can spray some contact cleaner in the switch and work it a few dozen times and that'll clean them out. Eventually, they do fail and will need to be replaced--the Record, Overdub, Nextloop and Multiply are probably going to wear out first because they get used more. The switches are about 50 cents each though, and can be replaced by anyone with minimal soldering ability. Strings break, reeds need replacing, tubes wear out, and EFC switches will eventually go bad. Yours may have been already somewhat used if you bought a returned unit from MF. All other replacement switches have their own drawbacks--cost, acoustically loud, long throw, etc, but if you decide to go that route the EFC-7 is very easy to work on. The only switches I'd consider are the type that I've seen on Mesa/Boogie footswitches (the non-clicking ones), but I believe they're literally ten times as expensive ($5 each). Personally, "the mountains" are not where I'd take any electrical music equipment. Consumer level stuff isn't really designed for that. TH On 8/1/08, Loaf citious wrote: > > Guess I'm replying to the original post about being frustrated w/ the > FC-7. Took that thing up to the mountains last weekend and it freaked out > - had to repeatedly tap the record (and others) until it seemed to "warm > up" That experience completely sucked the magic out of the whole thing. It > worked eventually. > > But, this happed right when I got it! Out of the box I was having funny > experiences w/ some of the buttons. Is this thing so sensitive that it's > effected by dust? Altitude? Temp? WHAT?!?! > (or is that the Musicians Friend Special I'm tasting?) > > I remember someone on this list a while back mentioning that they replaced > the little red plastic buttons w/ some sturdy metal ones. Did it help? Did > it make it more reliable? > > ------=_Part_6393_24259783.1217609049925 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Any piece of electrical equipment will be affected by dust to some degree or another.  The EDP switches were carefully selected for a number of reasons: fast response, acoustically quiet, short throw, easy to replace, inexpensive to purchase, readily available.  The downside is that they are more prone to dirt getting in them.  Usually you can spray some contact cleaner in the switch and work it a few dozen times and that'll clean them out.  Eventually, they do fail and will need to be replaced--the Record, Overdub, Nextloop and Multiply are probably going to wear out first because they get used more.  The switches are about 50 cents each though, and can be replaced by anyone with minimal soldering ability.  Strings break, reeds need replacing, tubes wear out, and EFC switches will eventually go bad.  Yours may have been already somewhat used if you bought a returned unit from MF.

All other replacement switches have their own drawbacks--cost, acoustically loud, long throw, etc, but if you decide to go that route the EFC-7 is very easy to work on.  The only switches I'd consider are the type that I've seen on Mesa/Boogie footswitches (the non-clicking ones), but I believe they're literally ten times as expensive ($5 each).

Personally, "the mountains" are not where I'd take any electrical music equipment.  Consumer level stuff isn't really designed for that.

TH

On 8/1/08, Loaf citious <loafcitious@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess I'm replying to the original post about being frustrated w/ the FC-7.  Took that thing up to the mountains last weekend and it freaked out  - had to repeatedly tap the record (and others) until it seemed to "warm up"  That experience completely sucked the magic out of the whole thing.  It worked eventually.

But, this happed right when I got it!  Out of the box I was having funny experiences w/ some of the buttons.  Is this thing so sensitive that it's effected by dust? Altitude? Temp? WHAT?!?!
(or is that the Musicians Friend Special I'm tasting?)

I remember someone on this list a while back mentioning that they replaced the little red plastic buttons w/ some sturdy metal ones. Did it help? Did it make it more reliable?


------=_Part_6393_24259783.1217609049925-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:59:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 834683BFC1; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=0/bBpvNUDRsJeteYKbV8OcghEftCkEU1qs0gFqBzZBI=; b=WwDNn9IgScrWEEodftnnwvq3ki9lu5sEchfv9gg77wFtp/6fbExtChXk4225Z3duQE /9zDGZqRlk9hVx08yzxm3bvKVHtJGOc9okinV3zp8ivz2rRBDp5uyvouq1wVF5rsOeyO wo91qpUwl9vOK1UHxX0W5Nb7SU4FkqeltZZCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vaCmINcW+ULOyXL6uTa0d2pLVeXBri91GWIYM8B5x6sqRypQmk4fYEv5nTivGeyhc6 SoQ+peDLU1AbeS92YQr09xWfCZJRTDkFe6emPnlBhepzJe9+ll9KDcbRYwfuwUpln00o syZGKg/DGf81MLRU/6YBMiXO9bAa1j130eKGM= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808010959q6c2d0581m9dc760cb0719e0e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:59:36 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Recommendied listen..streaming audio inc Stockhausen from 1956 In-Reply-To: <48932B48.1020605@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8548_12934572.1217609976318" References: <48932B48.1020605@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:59:41 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8548_12934572.1217609976318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Andy thanks for passing this along. Got this now streaming in my background and enjoying the range a great deal. Stockhausen was amazing considering. I haven't heard bbc since I was in England driving twoards Scotland in the late 80's saddly havne't been back since. Max's program reminds me of a NPR music program and host in LA called Selected Eclectic or something of that nature that I love to catch when I'm out there. Anyhow I'll remember to check bbc more often. best Jim On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:27 AM, andy butler wrote: > bbc radio make programs available to stream for 7 days. > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/latejunction/pip/rpqep/ > > includes Stockhausen's "Gesange der Junglinge" from 1958. > an electroacoustic work based on voice. > Of course, now it's possible to "do it with Max" in an instant, but back > then this > was months and months of work. > It might be tempting to ask how far experimental music has moved on in 50 > years ? > > > Actually, there's a lot of good stuff on this particular program, > some world music untouched by Western influence, > and a Ligeti piano piece. > > andy butler > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_8548_12934572.1217609976318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Andy thanks for passing this along.  Got this now streaming in my background and enjoying the range a great deal.  Stockhausen was amazing considering.  I haven't heard bbc since I was in England driving twoards Scotland in the late 80's saddly havne't been back since.  Max's program reminds me of a NPR music program and host in LA called Selected Eclectic or something of that nature that I love to catch when I'm out there.  Anyhow I'll remember to check bbc more often.
 
best
 
Jim

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:27 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
bbc radio make programs available to stream for 7 days.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/latejunction/pip/rpqep/

includes Stockhausen's "Gesange der Junglinge" from 1958.
an electroacoustic work based on voice.
Of course, now it's possible to "do it with Max" in an instant, but back then this
was months and months of work.
It might be tempting to ask how far experimental music has moved on in 50 years ?


Actually, there's a lot of good stuff on this particular program,
some world music untouched by Western influence,
and a Ligeti piano piece.

andy butler





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MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_8548_12934572.1217609976318-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 17:31:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4ADB3BFC4; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:19:29 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #591 for July 31, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <489345A1.6000005@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:31:28 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080731.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #591 July 31, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was Trance Spirits by Steve Roach and Jeffrey Fayman on Projekt Records. Steve Roach: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#jul PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Steve McManaman Those Who Dreamt Those Who Dreamt (none) of Buffalo Asnazzy Valles Marineris Solar Winds of Mars (Asnazzy) Alpha Wave Movement Emerald Passage Terra (HRR) Alpha Wave Movement Liquid Garden Terra (HRR) Klaus Schulze and Liquid Coincidnece 1 Farscape (Synthetic Symphony) Roach and Fayman Taking Flight Trance Spirits (Projekt) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Roach and Fayman Trance Spirits Trance Spirits (Projekt) Roach and Fayman Off Spring Trance Spirits (Projekt) Roach and Fayman Seekers Trance Spirits (Projekt) Roach and Fayman The Calling Trance Spirits (Projekt) Roach and Fayman Year of the Horse Trance Spirits (Projekt) Roach and Fayman In the Same Deep Trance Spirits (Projekt) Water 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Frank Van Bogaert. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Docking on Groove Unlimited. Frank Van Bogaert: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#aug Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. 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To remove yourself from this list, click here http://vrstrt.com/u/rpO3cmeyuk87MSvEur79IA.html or write to us at: 25399 The Old Road, Unit 13507 Stevenson Ranch, CA 91381 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 18:05:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5DF13BFBF; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 952 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:05:09 UTC Message-Id: From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: atmospheric guitar looping Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:41:19 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Me, too; lovely, thanks! (Is it just because I'm a guitar player too--and have loaded my share of recordings with this stuff as well- that I found the occasional little bits of string rattling distracting rather than, say, "expressive" or "interesting"?) I have no way of hearing that sound "innocently." dc On Aug 1, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Os wrote: > I'm > particularly pleased with the latest Darkroom podcast episode. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 20:15:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A68D03BFC8; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=0K0p2FANN3SzDsznfYlkgPqCTPmFMkxt5+pqpZKcSmY=; b=n5HFIEQfmzCM0Tad6TG8xmKDtM9ze7ZKB+au5Dbi6lZsnzAXQoSMc48bW4BAMccHnd +xEzBMhnCGcBugO5R5iYwsqv3WyKIrBI6FFsnpsBR+aNoePXult0W3viXa+iHeM2qD8h 15DY9SOMKVrobTFF5pUC4LWBh5O5iDTVUa+qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=u9YTJ+w4NpzylfYCcIJs3NukWe3q0CmN1iAaMlxzFqN+KaByCOJUGokTTuDscVwOxw BjAIow/HkukuUu8yEvFe3O10Zb0a4LWc4AnRSvCXWxgDUaxd/Zzyj6gbt8igE+5+R93j LO0IkgPWg3OfSoPG0kWB5WT2o+OV0YZ1sFbBA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:15:31 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: FCB 1010 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14210_11218210.1217621731583" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:15:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14210_11218210.1217621731583 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Allright so i went with the FCB 1010 midi foot controller is this a wise decision? And will i have the same dirt problem on this pedal. ------=_Part_14210_11218210.1217621731583 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Allright so i went with the FCB 1010 midi foot controller is this a wise decision? And will i have the same dirt problem on this pedal.
------=_Part_14210_11218210.1217621731583-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 20:56:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4CA93BFC9; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=tLCQ/LvrZMK+RhOHiCu7ZWU70RGSbQwS+hPOSm/nnGE=; b=pnteFmALzjnDCh7dFQYTd8kJc/rQWQ1MkrT1oowrs9P56naOltHvlGzJAIVCVZlxdm VdnCxxdObMEsTbMJu9AwHK+o3UlaSrx7MjQLBvYiwONit0pK3D/B4qVx6kFwFH+HelLI oH1MKVTZ/D7F+M7Kx/dKS7wa/kQS062cPOBGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=OYFCeFUr1sfXczKAdW9U7BqhsKl/IjA4J6D9wlCNOVuJQrCpaZVIykAZSrMhL1LHHc rvBRTOIMHqLvA59x12JcwydZdtMQbdUmpwB529tXq1w93U/cBrg2fNlh65tAVsU2sAN+ 0qhnF4L4ZeqmB7RrntyxCHr0F0AXug5Tjs794= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:56:04 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FCB 1010 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8854_22601031.1217624164058" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:56:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8854_22601031.1217624164058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The price/performance ratio on the FCB is hard to beat. I've heard of FCB switches wearing out with use, and some of mine are becoming suspect after 18 months, but not the dirt problem. On the downside, I've never heard of someone replacing a faulty FCB switch, I think the solution is buying a new FCB. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > Allright so i went with the FCB 1010 midi foot controller is this a wise > decision? And will i have the same dirt problem on this pedal. > ------=_Part_8854_22601031.1217624164058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The price/performance ratio on the FCB is hard to beat.
I've heard of FCB switches wearing out with use, and some of mine are becoming suspect after 18 months, but not the dirt problem.  On the downside, I've never heard of someone replacing a faulty FCB switch, I think the solution is buying a new FCB.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Allright so i went with the FCB 1010 midi foot controller is this a wise decision? And will i have the same dirt problem on this pedal.

------=_Part_8854_22601031.1217624164058-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 21:34:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CA853BFC5; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48938166.7050201@servingpeace.com> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:34:30 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Wanted Echoplex digital pro plus References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:34:31 +0000 (UTC) projektGmail wrote: > Hi Loopers > > I want buy another EDP (for stereo use) but Gibson discontinued the product. > Does anyone know where to get a New EDP. > > Simon What country are you in? I have a very good condition unit that I don't need since I am not doing the stereo thing. If you are interested please email me at sam@servingpeace.com - Sam Nilsson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 23:59:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE6D23BFBC; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:59:37 UTC X-YMail-OSG: rCgaWWYVM1k3C.DkR1PTQQegipdw_mwS8Sii3nrCWv9U3cQ_g6Q4S9q8teDxCUb8gnJxInpN0NuPtSjcUULzH1mLWtPQuRIy.ND.AWYvo5HbII8TBJmLuIfXhR_0s6uvqgSEyDcuGHFslJK94x2j2m1X X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000a01c8f431$a8000e90$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <48938166.7050201@servingpeace.com> Subject: OT eclectic tunes Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:52:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Hey folks! Long story short-I gave away some signed stuff from a band I dig, and low and behold it ended up being all I had. But before the band left town I got a guy from the band through Myspace who sent me something signed--so what went around came around. So, it's all good, but I want to reward the band dude for his generosity and he sent me his mailing address and he said he digs eclectic tunes. He gave me a list of the stuff he digs: Khan, Ash ra, Neu, Can, Caravan, kevin Ayers, Steve Hillage Gong, Faust, PFM, Banco, Magma, Ange, Amon Duul 2, Genyle Giant, Genesis (with Gabriel)...70's progressive stuff.....Be Bop Deluxe, Free, Doctors Of Madness, Cockney Rebel Bootlegs of any of the above are cool as are anything else you think might fit the above styles. Please contact me offlist if you have any MP3's you'd be willing to part with. ~peace~ plish www.michaelplishka.com www.myspace.com/michaelplishka www.myspace.com/bohdanovich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 03:08:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E14F3BFA1; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 03:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Nk1VVVJ3gmAA:10 a=YXOspHT6iKkA:10 a=bAhFdsczXMELoJI6rkcA:9 a=jMrjdIXd0cScanXglqvxyQc-cokA:4 a=SOpWpe-P8L8A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:08:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 03:08:23 +0000 (UTC) ah the endless foot controller issue... i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what people say...) but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief. so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 03:28:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DBB73BFC3; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 03:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TdMN-FliDo7TIe8X9kgA:9 a=n2UA2mLMWrYlKQqlLa9npaH_QhUA:4 a=ScSMxcE-fkIA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: more thoughts about the FCB1010 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:28:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 03:28:02 +0000 (UTC) one other thought about the FCB... i played a 3hr gig today at the SF Airport, and it was about half improvisation (i was directly over the TSA security checkpoint and thought uplifting ambiance would be a good thing to do rather than "songs"). i realize that the FCB is so tied into my loopers (which today was 4 instances of SooperLooper and 2 Electrix Repeaters) that i think of the FCB as the instrument, rather than the loopers. i like how direct it is. i don't even think about it, and in fact, i hardly even have to look at it (er, because it is so LARGE, the thing i complain about). it was really nice to be so fluid. i could just improvise freely and build up endless structures, and my tools were transparent. that was a nice place to be. i'm hoping this will also be true for any other foot controller i choose...fingers crossed. but there is something important about not having to think in "modes" (i.e. software modes, like tabs in an interface) but instead being directly mapped to your devices. 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To unsubscribe, click here --=_2d7a74d297e5be3c0dfe163b52999f7e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 07:56:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F29DA3BFC0; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=qYFmuwcvjUVRaxuXwL/bCMRvQKzD1vWHzchI7XNTlig=; b=OGDzlAgSrBPE/+NxjOzuV4dK5TaMzDkQ3WxOticwsNjcW7APOTP+eeQlTfrUwtm3no MscL4UUNkpTDcMjQAKIK1DB1BKdsrGRbjsNvwaUWg/SqHe7enm4e99cKzT7PVFdFR1rf U2NSWi5g/QWMAJPuqJpVZyV8SaHBHoQJrrOuQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ERKSQYMKkQBTT2inV2d527YWXjHNt9KA6Bh0i17R9mSF14/w0q3D96LVEG2gffLhSi yy5VB2Q9PG8RE9u988nfP1hU1yl+viB2168ra+LyYkjfhIbxt6QhelaFMPxBk7jbX55l ga5bwyjeOlwCaVAS0cGhvlKllG6j5+LDHWN0w= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808020056p7e7265c8saa0d294fe44c79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 09:56:26 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: more thoughts about the FCB1010 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12076_82997.1217663786688" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1ff8a6fc9ab5442e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:56:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12076_82997.1217663786688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I agree with you Zoe... after years of having masses of pedals on the floor, in a big box (with all the PSU issues - cant they make all pedals work on 9v-lazy buggers) I now have only the FCB and my guitar synth on the floor. I hardly need to look at the rack, and after many tests of "What patches where" I have come up with a layout that I like. Bank 0 is for "setting stuff up (EDP Presets mostely) Then going down is EDP stuff - Bank 9 Normal EDP buttons, 8 weirder stuff, and going up is Repeater stuff, Bank 1 is Normal repeater, Bank 2 weird Repeater stuf, and bank 3 is "Mini Repeater keyboard", that pitch one of the channels. FCB rules OK m- Show quoted text - On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 5:28 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: > one other thought about the FCB... > > i played a 3hr gig today at the SF Airport, and it was about half > improvisation (i was directly over the TSA security checkpoint and thought > uplifting ambiance would be a good thing to do rather than "songs"). i > realize that the FCB is so tied into my loopers (which today was 4 instances > of SooperLooper and 2 Electrix Repeaters) that i think of the FCB as the > instrument, rather than the loopers. i like how direct it is. i don't even > think about it, and in fact, i hardly even have to look at it (er, because > it is so LARGE, the thing i complain about). > > it was really nice to be so fluid. i could just improvise freely and build > up endless structures, and my tools were transparent. that was a nice place > to be. > > i'm hoping this will also be true for any other foot controller i > choose...fingers crossed. but there is something important about not having > to think in "modes" (i.e. software modes, like tabs in an interface) but > instead being directly mapped to your devices. > ------=_Part_12076_82997.1217663786688 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I agree with you Zoe... after years of having masses of pedals on the floor, in a big box (with all the PSU issues - cant they make all pedals work on 9v-lazy buggers) I now have only the FCB and my guitar synth on the floor. I hardly need to look at the rack, and after many tests of "What patches where" I have come up with a layout that I like. Bank 0 is for "setting stuff up (EDP Presets mostely) Then going down is EDP stuff - Bank 9 Normal EDP buttons, 8 weirder stuff, and going up is Repeater stuff, Bank 1 is Normal repeater, Bank 2 weird Repeater stuf, and bank 3 is "Mini Repeater keyboard", that pitch one of the channels.

FCB rules OK


m
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On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 5:28 AM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
one other thought about the FCB...

i played a 3hr gig today at the SF Airport, and it was about half improvisation (i was directly over the TSA security checkpoint and thought uplifting ambiance would be a good thing to do rather than "songs"). i realize that the FCB is so tied into my loopers (which today was 4 instances of SooperLooper and 2 Electrix Repeaters) that i think of the FCB as the instrument, rather than the loopers. i like how direct it is. i don't even think about it, and in fact, i hardly even have to look at it (er, because it is so LARGE, the thing i complain about).

it was really nice to be so fluid. i could just improvise freely and build up endless structures, and my tools were transparent. that was a nice place to be.

i'm hoping this will also be true for any other foot controller i choose...fingers crossed. but there is something important about not having to think in "modes" (i.e. software modes, like tabs in an interface) but instead being directly mapped to your devices.




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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 08:19:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BB853BFC7; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52602455/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.224.185 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.224.185 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am0EAFO1k0hPTuC5/2dsb2JhbAAIixejMoNS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,296,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52602455" Message-ID: <48941887.7050704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:19:19 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers Gorduis References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak wrote: > I like the Gordius Little Giant because of it's midi capabilities but > I play keyboards and I'm wondering if I could place it on top of my stage piano and use the switches without getting blue fingers! :) The buttons are certainly usable with fingers, though they're harder to push than you'd like. You could always ask Xavier do put some different switches on for you. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 08:31:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B9343BFD1; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 55682938/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.224.185 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.224.185 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am0EAOe3k0hPTuC5/2dsb2JhbAAIixejGoNS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,296,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="55682938" Message-ID: <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:31:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <39AZ4.A.ooF.GtBlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:31:02 +0000 (UTC) hi Zoe well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need? http://www.gordius.be/ tech support from Xavier is superb. I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work on the Gordius. andy butler ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold info at zoekeating wrote: > ah the endless foot controller issue... > > i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved > (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, > and > THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA > > i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i > love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is > a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to > program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and > control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but > behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and > are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what > people say...) > > but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my > looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB > onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the > bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief. > > so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to > have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 09:47:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 336AD3BFCD; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 09:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:47:03 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 09:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Here's a bit of a caution for those International travellers (specifically Laptop Loopers) coming into the US. It looks like the Department of Homeland Security has now begun taking it upon itself to confiscate and rifle through the data on some passengers' laptops, as well as storage devices. Details from the Houston Chronicle here: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/5918770.html Granted, it's probably a longshot that you'll get tapped for such a search. But if you're coming into the US from a foreign country, it's best to know the risks up front and plan accordingly. --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." X <--- you are here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 10:57:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C5FC3BFCB; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=51Z6BmBhPdC5UmNpDI0QOY+NzLsziWkFEOEZ2xLMBIw=; b=Ck3Zs3jM45RCsTmNA8xDmVFqh25QP75wy3TimZ4teSGKxRwwvY8U8aFCpbjGZf+rEk e1JLvU40P7HcVMpW2IEzafcllng4nn18nIvpl0Q8ZPqAs/QpQKZkB4rAdhv6wDM7o1UF Dp5jRaGWDjRugqt9lhAFsDFr3T9Tv9aY2g+e4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mNmJu5WahRACW8EaEBwt4/beOwmznRjlh45IR0oSPveK9KJXy6cFJMqJ5JueTMcKbG Pp8pfXJprqJNWOix+h49/h6yyXUMQkihbJ6zcT8oef2nfSSGWQbEg4qrBZowiWh0+vdY 2iFDDfURWIUrmpNOy7uBppa9SJG7/lxo+mMZQ= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:57:03 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:57:04 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Mech wrote: > Here's a bit of a caution for those International travellers (specifically > Laptop Loopers) coming into the US. It looks like the Department of > Homeland Security has now begun taking it upon itself to confiscate and > rifle through the data on some passengers' laptops, as well as storage > devices. Details from the Houston Chronicle here: > > http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/5918770.html > > Granted, it's probably a longshot that you'll get tapped for such a search. > But if you're coming into the US from a foreign country, it's best to know > the risks up front and plan accordingly. > > --m. Well, I always bring my looping setup on both a USB stick and CD, just in case. I think it's fair to let security go through random passengers electronic data. I'd rather take that than a bomb up my ass. But... That announcement by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff would make for a good laugh it was in a Monty Python sketch! But since it is a real world document it brings the question of what people really are in charge over there? I mean, as examples for the threat they have deliberately chosen words as "violent jihadist materials". A much better phrasing would have been to say "terrorist action material". Jihad is an Arabic word with the Islamic meaning "striving in the name of Allah". I think it's really sad that people in such a leading position still act in such a prejudiced way. You could almost believe that a hidden meaning of the document is to spread bad vibes about Arabic speaking countries and the religion Islam in particular! About a thousand years ago the Christians on this continent set out to concur in the name of god - I was hoping we were done with that kind of stupidity on this planet. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From award@pb.net Sat Aug 2 11:20:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6750 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:20:52 UTC Received: from salta.mincyt.gov.ar (salta.mincyt.gov.ar [200.9.244.33]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2C53BFB5; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar (calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar [200.9.244.15]) by salta.mincyt.gov.ar (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m71MiSjN006123; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:47:47 -0300 Received: from calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar (calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar [127.0.0.1]) by calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar (8.13.4/linuxconf) with ESMTP id m71CMOPJ012754; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:22:26 -0300 Received: (from apache@localhost) by calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id m71CIxDo012036; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:18:59 -0300 X-Authentication-Warning: calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar: apache set sender to award@pb.net using -f Received: from dial-pool4.ph.starcomms.net (dial-pool4.ph.starcomms.net [41.205.161.216]) by calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:18:58 -0300 Message-ID: <1217593138.4892ff32981ef@calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:18:58 -0300 From: POWERBALL PROMOTION Reply-to: dpu.staff@live.com Subject: YOU WON MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 41.205.161.216 X-SECyT-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-SECyT-MailScanner: Correo Libre de virus X-SECyT-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-SECyT-MailScanner-From: award@pb.net To: undisclosed-recipients:; Ref Nr: PBL/CN/6654/CP Your E-mail has won the Power-ball Online Lottery. 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(Group Coordinator) ------------------------------------------------------------ Servicio de WebMail REDCyT - IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 11:47:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 649193BFCB; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=sNFNejq+LKAL0u8FpCL3tElRTeEQ6SV8bO0ovoxa220=; b=esqDw6ztVw1jBfGUPbk/7BoImAPFVUh3UeHaVgqA68llOz9t/uM+dKiJCceKKCdv20 7MA0BC/5ZGItwxH3XyBS9iHC7oirIgmtq/PzlkNgh7qGftokituvT+10ctK/XIpZwNyG mGZM+GIqz3rVpqsVoKqqv0MoMMhfYB1z4WGVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=NmTdrGrrhXHx7MvJ3/Z5+/4mQeJ0Csb2s7fBPUqiIIu4WXlwPRAEcBMtETK6mcxpp+ YZijxnITOpWJx+s4LRMQ8ZckWz2upw/juavf6XSyrPe48pAyKTvoMGB5q/Xsrto5ATBN nPKRsdOzPK2rYZnxge2bpmPjED3Jb7o+Iykkw= Message-ID: <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:47:25 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 47fc52efe6d850c9 Resent-Message-ID: <3hqqCB.A.zm.PlElIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless places on the web to "discuss" things like this. In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 11:58:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D08193BF55; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=MqjL05Pvn7ZThsyhGK93I8RGj/LZYH13G1vOOpN734Y=; b=t8o81W2LKqSY7OFgbkvRTyFdDHLzrUPLawYeZqLosu+DtaSdCor+jZkoudNfAFl5xX OjKC2/oH/h7wB7t/w/bj90zgrxveA+G39bg2LZGpXFNPJaTd68wuO3rwOUXTV2YWCgNp TdmeGQt6daJakAJmztb956/+/0qRbWSHHrd54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qmU9F29x2j95tYoPb6zesmmL9LayDAT2wgWe6XrxEsXN7IbxjerK+iYeE5I7SIPpWn Hi4DmDOFHGG9gHO8ORVHItT1wdIjoOgM2Hh93PjHShCw9MCa5DF7BB10t1BBYpnRorF3 OCTrMpptE/GUHkE+HbhItyz/OGyXR7Vgc8ZVs= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:58:26 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13772_7755812.1217678306238" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <826ZnD.A.i8.jvElIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:58:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13772_7755812.1217678306238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'. Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office... Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just > leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless > places on the web to "discuss" things like this. > > In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's > related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech > podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with > allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs > authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which > files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops > with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would > think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. > > Warren > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_13772_7755812.1217678306238 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
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------=_Part_16691_5553153.1217679195062-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 12:49:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CA6F3BFB3; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lEzCAM13rEejXXyzGNdna0B2VtyD+zld53K2LK+9L7o=; b=W6TfQyTGMGlMdU+gxPrnOCL8+XwAYUrtneE64/6zk5Svr7MygL45OVSqsOrfKKtZsM DXZBZ6ctlEsv9xQHfDxu0BY9WmyUxng12qcW/35Vh2tv4y8KiNQ5vzODbudjValQ7k7i UONcqArNSB43qFs6k6AnKqNhID4PrIQmdPohU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FPu71+VlzXg4zLTofMB06ALimXHiNp1OVWPvzxDPJObXdnvCqSnuaUZykvrGF3TD+G rbw5J0bonFB8+Zkj4JYk8ejhxjwuZxYn+fx6Hc5p8pd2q7TBGFHb3idvm4QivMCpj89K mhwLxYP04U0I3slDexQ/IUojdjq73I2HmoTKA= Message-ID: <4759e5740808020549h2a290ffck5219ec3cb00da1e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:49:46 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10551_8303495.1217681386630" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:49:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10551_8303495.1217681386630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline For what it's worth, Zoe, I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now, and I'll bet mine is similar to yours. The Rack is 32 pounds plus the Behringer (and it's cloth case) comes to about 49 pounds. Another option is to try to bundle them together. On the cello front, if you're going underneath, I guess you have one of those ballistic cases... An interesting story from my end... Y'all might know that I had a quartet for a long time named Ethel. Our cellist, Dorothy, over seven years, usually carried her very expensive cello on her back in a soft case, and was successful talking her way on to the plane all that time without an extra seat bought, can you believe that? I haven't been in touch for a long time, so I don't know what she's doing now, but I imagine it must be so much more difficult now. Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take two rack cases, in fact, I may start doing that with all gear in general, just carrying a small suitcase. It's really become severe. However, I'm with you and Andy, can't give it up, this FCB1010. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler wrote: > hi Zoe > well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need? > > http://www.gordius.be/ > > tech support from Xavier is superb. > > I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work > on the Gordius. > > > andy butler > ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold > > > > info at zoekeating wrote: > >> ah the endless foot controller issue... >> >> i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but >> hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and >> THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA >> >> i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love >> how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. >> and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not >> many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the >> same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been >> amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about >> the history of behringer and what people say...) >> >> but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my >> looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard >> with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the >> FCB causes me no end of grief. >> >> so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to >> have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. >> >> >> > -- Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_10551_8303495.1217681386630 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
For what it's worth, Zoe, I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now, and I'll bet mine is similar to yours.  The Rack is 32 pounds plus the Behringer (and it's cloth case) comes to about 49 pounds. Another option is to try to bundle them together. 

On the cello front, if you're going underneath, I guess you have one of those ballistic cases... An interesting story from my end... Y'all might know that I had a quartet for a long time named Ethel.  Our cellist, Dorothy, over seven years, usually carried her very expensive cello on her back in a soft case, and was successful talking her way on to the plane all that time without an extra seat bought, can you believe that?  I haven't been in touch for a long time, so I don't know what she's doing now, but I imagine it must be so much more difficult now.   

Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take  two rack cases, in fact, I may start doing that with all gear in general, just carrying a small suitcase.  It's really become severe.  However, I'm with you and Andy, can't give it up, this FCB1010. 

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Zoe
well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need?

http://www.gordius.be/

tech support from Xavier is superb.

I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work
on the Gordius.


andy butler
ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold



info at zoekeating wrote:
ah the endless foot controller issue...

i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA

i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what people say...)

but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief.

so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to have the expression pedals removed from the FCB.






--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com

------=_Part_10551_8303495.1217681386630-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 13:35:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68DA03BFB1; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=pW1DDDS7wJkZgfg4BZm6AMIEoE3yuXkZBlLEjzS+M0Y=; b=lOt6oaJebxQxsHC7gx9NJEUObq0+GXrif2RQPNfJIDkm6aaNqf3WYSFIjvl+3gQ/F+ PAVkGS1w8ry8PtuMRgiFbjjyYtgDsazBbDwZHqb6HcA9iTlFDdCIz72p+HbAqOdfTlfl hFD/veLjtH8PbjnC4WFH/1Ud2om+MMIcUzUsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qa/Qtj+GF5juwWjfRI2wt4v+veZkSAYjA+4YcoaTUrmC9uz33TiGEi3FJ905FmaUWL 2mfg27FlKaZ+Ba4U0LwDTQLuW6rlNWpvohe2gnKW9Mbjfh4eJIjS+Xvq6eyd29qOACMR CyT2FtEabytlI+B5L4itDPJte3KnnivfR5VdY= Message-ID: <652f3a270808020635q39d57eatab7b51d1e23e6e94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 23:05:24 +0930 From: r.domain To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_45264_23516174.1217684124718" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:35:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_45264_23516174.1217684124718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline "Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... " Got it and it's awesome!! Everyone should see it. Open some eyes. R. -- Without music life would be a mistake. ~Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche ------=_Part_45264_23516174.1217684124718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
"Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....
"

Got it and it's awesome!!  Everyone should see it.  Open some eyes.

R.

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Without music life would be a mistake. ~Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
------=_Part_45264_23516174.1217684124718-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 13:43:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55F173BFAA; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=d7N2H/uonEozgk37OfHGnzRrQA7GAOINCULszLu4y/M=; b=hfiT+RaHT7LTJ2H9FCQgXTrIPyQIs6opnDiykBgHGogCaZJhHPQSlQTMPSMArZCXOd yxMehCS+VHg5Bn3j6dYN4J32N/+JvNyZtcEOkw7zkkgFdrC6/lJYyEFZhF3A4Cf2qwkV Gp1/WN9leqPxX6sMt5Vct88TKBN+RhywqVf8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=AgL3KvbErs1aU+60qEwyBFAPqux6/5fMKVib/2TlEMWr+ImFt5gKhyFk5du253Kv8M f1eZQDxQZR6nfIQvdzmGw2d6h5LQpkuHnEjy6isDy6JT1zFe590wowSryNgE/Xa+HfNN 028gNpRnuUaPzIY/VaCWOaER2HFzkQvFTzODI= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808020643n6adeec8ft7f6053e02a27bb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:43:29 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Was Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... now very OT politics of Jihad... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13088_29646981.1217684609671" X-Google-Sender-Auth: ca55c995388f2238 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:43:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13088_29646981.1217684609671 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I don't think Per was discussing the "semiotics" of the word, just defining it. However he was being a little controversial by using the origin of the word as its definition, I think the more accepted modern usage would be - a holy war undertaken by Muslims against unbelievers. Which is only fair really when one considers the Crusades. PS wholeheartedly agree with Dave, in fact, its a relatively normal depiction of how things are here in Europe, not conspiratorial at all, well not alot. Also... I dont think there is anything wrong with "talking politics" in this forum. The internet is still un-owned here in the Northern hemisphere, unlike all of the US News channels. How are you'all gonna find out the truth about where you live unless we (and Micheal Moore ) tell you. (heh heh... kidding LD'ers are in touch ) Also Music has often been the channel for furthering a Political cause. Maybe you or "Loop for the left"..."Loop for Jesus" Or even "Loop for Love" m On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just > leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless > places on the web to "discuss" things like this. > > In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's > related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech > podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with > allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs > authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which > files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops > with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would > think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. > > Warren > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_13088_29646981.1217684609671 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I don't think Per was discussing the "semiotics" of the word, just defining it. However he was being a little controversial by using the origin of the word as its definition, I think the more accepted modern usage would be - a holy war undertaken by Muslims against unbelievers.  Which is only fair really when one considers the Crusades.

PS wholeheartedly agree with Dave, in fact, its a relatively normal depiction of how things are here in Europe, not conspiratorial at all, well not alot.

Also... I dont think there is anything wrong with "talking politics" in this forum. The internet is still un-owned here in the Northern hemisphere, unlike all of the US News channels. How are you'all gonna find out the truth about where you live unless we (and Micheal Moore ) tell you.

(heh heh... kidding LD'ers are in touch )

Also Music has often been the channel for furthering a Political cause. Maybe you  or "Loop for the left"..."Loop for Jesus" Or even "Loop for Love"



m




On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




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www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
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Scientists have previously suggested that a mere pencil-thick strand of silk could actually stop a Boeing 747 in mid flight Although the technology is nothing short of cutting edge, mankind has known about the amazing properties associated with Spider Silk. For many centuries, we%u2019ve known about the possibility of making fabric from spider silk, although the pursuit was given up for economic feasibility reasons. Other applications range from medicinal uses to fishing lines and nets.  The US Army has a long history of interest in spider silks, but the closest it was able to come to commercial utilization was using black widow threads for the crosshairs in the telescopic gun sights during WW II. Of course, that didn%u2019t stop them from funding research into other spider silk applications and now KBLB is on the verge of mass production of improved bulletproof vests and parachute cords.  Plus, a number of commercial applications including, suspension cables, wear-resistant shoes and clothing, seat belts, rust-free bumpers for automobiles, as well as artificial tendons and ligaments KBLB could gain 1500% or more in the next few months  Not only does spider silk have amazing mechanical properties, the manufacturing process doesn%u2019t cause a pollution nightmare, like so many other products, and spider silk is completely biodegradable. Contrast spider silk production with the man-made super-fibers it%u2019ll be replacing, such as Kevlar, which requires petrochemical processing, big time pollution creation, and is also drawn from concentrated sulphuric acid.  Should this company achieve its goal of creating transgenic silkworms capable of expressing significant amounts of spider silk protein; we believe the technology will likely immediately be worth at least several hundred million dollars. Further refinement of the technology and initial acceptance by the technical textiles market could potentially yield an overall value for this technology well in excess of $1 billion. KBLB management and advisors believe they will likely be first to market, but if a foreign competitor pulls off a miracle, the Company%u2019s intellectual property, relative to the production of such technologies in the United States, would prevent them from selling their product in the United States. Speaking of the Company's Management and Advisory Board, it's like an industry Who's Who list and their confidence in the Company's future is supported by the fact that they own over half of KBLB's common shares. It is beyond the scope of this report to contain complete CVs and lists of published materials, but I will include brief introductions. Please don't hesitate to go to the KBLB website for further information. ( http://www.up0.net/ct.html?rtr=on&s=eahm,46ci,47y,ojd,iqon,4cg0,2hbv&MLM_MID=194850&MLM_UNIQUEID=318001c43b ) Company Website Management Kim Thompson, CEO Kim Thompson is the named inventor in a pending provisional patent application for a number of organic polymers. The patent application has been assigned to the benefit of the company. A central part of the company's work is in reducing those inventions to practice. Thompson founded Kraig Biocraft Laboratories in his pursuit of the development of new biotechnologies with industrial applications. As chairman of the scientific advisory board, he brings a unique perspective, and acts as the primary liaison between the advisory board and the corporation. Board of Scientic Advisors Malcolm. J. Fraser, Jr. Ph.D.  Dr. Fraser is the co-inventor of the gene splicing technology PIGGYBAC, as well as the inventor of various piggyBac improvement patents. It was his work on piggyBac which first caught the attention of Kraig Biocraft Laboratories. He was recently selected as a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. This was awarded in recognition for his distinguished contributions to genetics and transgenesis, and for his discovery of the piggyBac transposable element and derived transgenic vector system. In 2006, Dr. Fraser was awarded $2.5 million from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to fund deliverable technologies in the field of transgenics, for the prevention of mosquito born disease. Dr. Fraser is a member of the faculty at the University of Notre Dame, where he heads the Fraser Laboratory. The focus of his work is molecular genetics. He is the author or co-author of numerous scientific articles in the field of genetic engineering and gene manipulation.    Randy Lewis, Ph.D. Dr. Lewis is internationally renowned for his work on spider silk. He is also the named inventor of a number of patents relating to spider silk polymers. He is a member of the faculty at the University of Wyoming, where he heads the Lewis Laboratory within the Department of Molecular Biology. The study of spider silk polymers and their underlying genetics is a major focus of Dr. Lewis's research.   Donald L. Jarvis, Ph.D. Dr. Jarvis heads a research laboratory within the University of Wyoming's Department of Molecular Biology which focuses on biochemistry, biosynthesis, and practical genetic engineering applications. He has approximately eighteen patent applications and intellectual property licensing agreements to his credit, including biosynthesis technologies and technologies with potential applications for pharmaceutical production. He is the author or co-author of numerous scientific articles in the fields of biosynthesis, genetic engineering and biochemistry. Contact Us Kraig Biocraft Laboratories, Inc. 120 North Washington Square, Suite 805 Lansing, Michigan 48933 Telephone: (517) 336-0807 Email: ( mailto:corporate@KraigLabs.com ) corporate@KraigLabs.com Copyright © 2008. All Rights Reserved.Investor Development Group (IDG) Three Riverway Suite 210 Houston, TX 77056 To unsubscribe, send an email to: unsubscribe-5470@up0.net with the address: looparc@loopers-delight.com in the subject line. --=_2a23afdc0f0460bd9c514c848bcbf8fb Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailer 14c
 

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Spiderman Beats Batman!

Here's the Company that has the Strength to give you 1500%, or more, just around the corner...

Batman just broke all Box Office Records, but it's Peanuts Compared to the Value of Spider-Silk...

4-time Wall Street Journal All-Star Analyst Pegs Kraig Biocraft Laboratories (KBLB) to go to $4  



Kraig Biocraft Laboratories, Inc. (OTCBB: KBLB) has all the characteristics of a BIG TIME winner and now a top analyst has pegged it to skyrocket from 25 cents a share to over $4.00, which is a 1,500% gain. Perhaps the best thing about this stock is that it doesn't depend on the broader markets performance. This stock should go UP, UP, UP and AWAY UP!
 
Once this Company achieves its expected breakthroughs in the laboratory, the analyst who wrote the report, expects the stock to immediately be worth $4.00.  When the resulting patented technologies hits the market, it will be nothing short of dominating, not to mention a must have biotechnology for of a multitude of industries, ranging from the textile industry, to the chemical industry and it even has many amazing defense industry applications.

Imagine having a mix of companies like DuPont, 3M, Nike, Under-Armor, Adidas, General Dynamics, Raytheon, and others, wishing they could utilize your technology.
We're talking first-rate licensing opportunities, if not a prime buyout.


KBLB is at the forefront of the coming revolution in materials technology. The KBLB team is creating, via proprietary genetic engineering processes in cooperation with the field's top university scientists and laboratories, innovative near term solutions for today's practical problems and the development of new products. It has a very strong intellectual property portfolio relating to genetic modification of silkworms to produce spider silk and other specialized proteins. 

Kraig Biocraft Laboratories is a pioneering biotechnology company that utilizes genetic research to develop to find solutions in the areas of material science the next generation of high performance fibers, noteworthy commercial polymers, and diverse platform technologies with broad consumer and industry. The preliminary market for Kraig%u2019s protein-based materials, including spider silk, will be the multi-billion dollar technical fibers market. 

The highly resilient technical fibers/textiles market is already valued in the tens of billions of dollars per year, led by DuPont%u2019s $5 Billion a year product, Kevlar, and Honeywell's Spectra, but there is no comparison to spider silk. The Technical Textile market is expected to grow from $92 Billion to $127 Billion in 2010. This market consists of high-strength fibers used in composites, ballistic protection, armor and high strength cable, to name a few. 

Spider silk is a SUPER FIBER that significantly exceeds all known fibers relative to its ability to absorb energy prior to breakage, making it ideal for multiple ballistic resistant, medical, fashion, and industrial uses. If the Company reaches the low end estimate, 2% technical textiles market penetration, it would likely exceed sales of $3 billion per year.


Kraig Biocraft is America's NEXT Great Bio-Tech Breakthrough















KBLB's advancements in the development of genetically reproduced Spider Silk are nothing short of spectacular. Management, as well as the scientific community, knows that Spider Silk is a super fiber that will have numerous commercial and consumer applications. 

Spider Silk is a super fiber because it's five times stronger than steel, it has twice the elasticity of polyamide fibers (31% stretchability without breaking), even higher elasticity than Aramid filaments (i.e. Twaron and even Kevlar), yet it's finer than a human hair and lighter than cotton.

The fact that the high performance technical fibers, currently used in a wide variety of military, industrial, and consumer applications, require superior strength, toughness and flexibility, Spider Silk will soon become the standard.

Currently, the focus is on the development of high strength materials and industrial polymers, but KBLB can manipulate DNA to modify and create new biochemical products, as well as the next generation of materials.

1,500% Gains!

According to a four-time Wall Street Journal All-Star Analyst, the upside is enormous.


In the coming months, he expects KBLB shares to skyrocket 1,500%
which means

5,000 shares of KBLB could quickly soar $20,000
10,000 shares of KBLB could bring you $40,000
Considering the humongous market potential for the various product applications, the obvious question is, why hasn%u2019t this miracle product already dominated the various markets? The answer to that question is also one of the main reasons the Company should experience commercial success for years to come. Prior to recent KBLB breakthroughs, there was no way to reach adequate mass production capacity. Now, it appears several major products are close to commercial viability and Kraig Biocraft%u2019s intellectual property position, relative to production and sale of the potential product, is very strong. 

KBLB is at the forefront of the transgenics revolution, the scientific process of decoding the genetic instructions of an organism and applying those instructions to another organism, which is the key to producing bio-chemicals and other products on an industrial scale.

It may sound far out there, but genetic scientists have already produced the first transgenic silkworms, while other genetic researchers have isolated the genetic sequences in spiders responsible for silk production.

KBLB's technical team has mastered piggyBac transposition and homologous recombination, to create a germline stable transgenic silkworm capable of transferring the inserted spider silk genetic coding to all future generations. In other words, they%u2019re developing a transgenic silkworm capable of producing silk that contains spider silk proteins, in commercially viable quantities. In fact, the Company expects to significantly hasten the pace to the point that laboratory breakthroughs should be realized by the end of the year.

Pick up Your KLBL Shares before the News Triggers Major Price Appreciation

Kraig Biocraft Laboratories is one of the companies that on the forefront of these scientific advancements. Utilizing a set of state of the art genetic reengineering techniques the company is seeking to utilize the species Bombyx mori, commonly known as the domesticated silkworm, as a protein expression system in order to produce a revolutionary protein based product that could potentially be worth billions of dollars per year.

The domesticated silkworm, with silk glands that account for nearly half its bodyweight, is the perfect creature to manufacture these fibers. Thanks to thousands of years of captivity they are unable to live outside of captivity, so the cross contamination issues have been eradicated, but are still incredibly industrious, not to mention efficient.
KBLB will also explore additional possibilities for highly scalable and cost-effective applications for the pharmaceutical, biotechnology, with an emphasis on drug discovery, clinical and diagnostic testing applications, genetic engineering, bio-production and many other scientific applications. 


Kraig obtained the certain exclusive rights from the University of Wyoming, to utilize the spider silk DNA sequences which are at the core of its technology. These genetic sequences were first studied and subsequently patented by Dr. Randy Lewis, a KBLB scientific adviser and member of the faculty at the University of Wyoming.
KBLB has skillfully established collaborative relationships with the leading genetic research and engineering laboratories, including the U of Wyoming and the University of Notre Dame to create new polymers for the broad commercial markets, which have been waiting for the next evolution of materials.

The Company also launched the Kraig Research Initiative, which is a cooperatively work program, which funds university scientists and laboratories. As part of the program, KBLB licenses university intellectual property in the fields of genetics and genetic engineering. In addition to accessing top technology, Kraig gets the added benefit of employing the greatest minds in this discipline, greatly reducing the Company%u2019s R & D budget while they create technologies with significant commercial applications. Plus, both sides are able achieve greater results than what they could have reasonably hoped to achieve alone.


Scientists have previously suggested that a mere pencil-thick strand of silk could actually stop a Boeing 747 in mid flight


Although the technology is nothing short of cutting edge, mankind has known about the amazing properties associated with Spider Silk. For many centuries, we%u2019ve known about the possibility of making fabric from spider silk, although the pursuit was given up for economic feasibility reasons. Other applications range from medicinal uses to fishing lines and nets. 


The US Army has a long history of interest in spider silks, but the closest it was able to come to commercial utilization was using black widow threads for the crosshairs in the telescopic gun sights during WW II. Of course, that didn%u2019t stop them from funding research into other spider silk applications and now KBLB is on the verge of mass production of improved bulletproof vests and parachute cords. 

Plus, a number of commercial applications including, suspension cables, wear-resistant shoes and clothing, seat belts, rust-free bumpers for automobiles, as well as artificial tendons and ligaments

KBLB could gain 1500% or more in the next few months 


Not only does spider silk have amazing mechanical properties, the manufacturing process doesn%u2019t cause a pollution nightmare, like so many other products, and spider silk is completely biodegradable. Contrast spider silk production with the man-made super-fibers it%u2019ll be replacing, such as Kevlar, which requires petrochemical processing, big time pollution creation, and is also drawn from concentrated sulphuric acid. 


Should this company achieve its goal of creating transgenic silkworms capable of expressing significant amounts of spider silk protein; we believe the technology will likely immediately be worth at least several hundred million dollars. Further refinement of the technology and initial acceptance by the technical textiles market could potentially yield an overall value for this technology well in excess of $1 billion.

KBLB management and advisors believe they will likely be first to market, but if a foreign competitor pulls off a miracle, the Company%u2019s intellectual property, relative to the production of such technologies in the United States, would prevent them from selling their product in the United States.

Speaking of the Company's Management and Advisory Board, it's like an industry Who's Who list and their confidence in the Company's future is supported by the fact that they own over half of KBLB's common shares. It is beyond the scope of this report to contain complete CVs and lists of published materials, but I will include brief introductions. Please don't hesitate to go to the KBLB website for further information. Company Website
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Management

Kim Thompson, CEO
Kim Thompson is the named inventor in a pending provisional patent application for a number of organic polymers. The patent application has been assigned to the benefit of the company. A central part of the company's work is in reducing those inventions to practice.

Thompson founded Kraig Biocraft Laboratories in his pursuit of the development of new biotechnologies with industrial applications. As chairman of the scientific advisory board, he brings a unique perspective, and acts as the primary liaison between the advisory board and the corporation.

Board of Scientic Advisors

Malcolm. J. Fraser, Jr. Ph.D. 

Dr. Fraser is the co-inventor of the gene splicing technology PIGGYBAC, as well as the inventor of various piggyBac improvement patents. It was his work on piggyBac which first caught the attention of Kraig Biocraft Laboratories. He was recently selected as a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. This was awarded in recognition for his distinguished contributions to genetics and transgenesis, and for his discovery of the piggyBac transposable element and derived transgenic vector system.

In 2006, Dr. Fraser was awarded $2.5 million from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to fund deliverable technologies in the field of transgenics, for the prevention of mosquito born disease. Dr. Fraser is a member of the faculty at the University of Notre Dame, where he heads the Fraser Laboratory. The focus of his work is molecular genetics. He is the author or co-author of numerous scientific articles in the field of genetic engineering and gene manipulation.

   

Randy Lewis, Ph.D.
Dr. Lewis is internationally renowned for his work on spider silk. He is also the named inventor of a number of patents relating to spider silk polymers.

He is a member of the faculty at the University of Wyoming, where he heads the Lewis Laboratory within the Department of Molecular Biology. The study of spider silk polymers and their underlying genetics is a major focus of Dr. Lewis's research.

 
Donald L. Jarvis, Ph.D.
Dr. Jarvis heads a research laboratory within the University of Wyoming's Department of Molecular Biology which focuses on biochemistry, biosynthesis, and practical genetic engineering applications. He has approximately eighteen patent applications and intellectual property licensing agreements to his credit, including biosynthesis technologies and technologies with potential applications for pharmaceutical production.

He is the author or co-author of numerous scientific articles in the fields of biosynthesis, genetic engineering and biochemistry.

Contact Us

Kraig Biocraft Laboratories, Inc.

120 North Washington Square, Suite 805
Lansing, Michigan 48933

Telephone:
(517) 336-0807
Email: corporate@KraigLabs.com

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Houston, TX 77056 --=_2a23afdc0f0460bd9c514c848bcbf8fb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 13:54:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 801C73BFAE; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=hpgKZUSyW2V92cisE035IUrANffxcyacs687ey+VSm8=; b=Z2+cDBjRqBE0octmiouBPY7e2JuioSVvRB4AY+5Ofi9iPyD5IENedOMRuqqvbIWw1a aqlTYsvl8Rcv9i87I3qqPWrCx6L4cIDTYupiJ+b+oeZRvN/iIZdFlZaIW7HqxSiLgOAG GT1BmKfv1VEE5vB97Xhgfnnz03rh4I73/2bgM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=tZrmtjyp4YjIP9E4zWY4nh8lZF5VAZUJsWm9euM5E40Cryv+jTzy8J8VRepw0NIewX wkS1u1tw+kTRbV/gN/gBvDHRGEWiQXHqQoZaZbCf12Y8/rUPy4UQG1CsHs9DBnTTj/mp 92c594e6nOs2uGi312kQMbTURtIAGY6nPSgrI= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:54:11 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15124_25864498.1217685251972" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <47XMJD.A.ueE.FcGlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15124_25864498.1217685251972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline No discussion possible. Dave's point 100% accurated. 2008/8/2 Dave > They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying > the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may > not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how > they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on > terror'. > > Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a > terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his > enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started > wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind > of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll > know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they > know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to > insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my > opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just > something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another > notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to > before they get out of office... > > Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? > http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ > > Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >> >> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >> >> Warren >> >> > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_15124_25864498.1217685251972 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
No discussion possible. 
Dave's point 100% accurated.


2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



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TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
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In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14221_4258548.1217685511441" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:58:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14221_4258548.1217685511441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the empirical evidence points me... On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > No discussion possible. Dave's point 100% accurated. > > 2008/8/2 Dave > >> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying >> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may >> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how >> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on >> terror'. >> >> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a >> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his >> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started >> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind >> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll >> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they >> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to >> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my >> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just >> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another >> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to >> before they get out of office... >> >> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? >> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ >> >> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >> >>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >>> >>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >>> >>> Warren >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >> > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_14221_4258548.1217685511441 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the empirical evidence points me...

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
No discussion possible. 
Dave's point 100% accurated.


2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_14221_4258548.1217685511441-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 14:00:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6E0D3BFB7; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=7qk2KpLa8LohlPT+VM1Kio666MlUtNeuL1or5Erx3qE=; b=jl5bhvrL6Qr88IxI0rgBigkHY/AUaA8FYoYk5WhDBwccYiYOg4/+Yhyubh4dv1Z7VG tAALI9/lMTBfZ8A4YKaSxIZrliCd9u3ORJJehDE/K73bs/gTgNrehA+n5qTP+e7QrtmQ ytbYAgqcSWRfqyk/n1mprimKAxiVj1aHtmL7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=CwNGR/hejKgm1LCqjycV6LYkiS9koj0JmhUK5umfgmcLT/Rm37VlhHZ/OusJoBfcE9 pgl7xJ4LI2JIYEiUPsl5V3pjwhn6px2lANdonFQdGfVM1hIDMSv/In+hUN0NzM8f48vC 5eyRolNNF3g2OMoOiSUBV8KSEyQAfuxpjua4Y= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:00:51 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: So what IS the damage when travelling by plane? WAS Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13174_21262891.1217685651948" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2044cf1cfa9c602c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:00:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13174_21262891.1217685651948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now, > Hmm wish mine was that small... > > Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel > now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take two rack > cases, in fact, > OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top things on the lid... like this --- http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988 except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!) Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! ) Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and actual sq ft, cant be much different... What IS the damage really? In dollars...? PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar is a piece of... M.x > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> hi Zoe >> well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need? >> >> http://www.gordius.be/ >> >> tech support from Xavier is superb. >> >> I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work >> on the Gordius. >> >> >> andy butler >> ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold >> >> >> >> info at zoekeating wrote: >> >>> ah the endless foot controller issue... >>> >>> i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but >>> hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and >>> THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA >>> >>> i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love >>> how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. >>> and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not >>> many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the >>> same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been >>> amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about >>> the history of behringer and what people say...) >>> >>> but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my >>> looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard >>> with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the >>> FCB causes me no end of grief. >>> >>> so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to >>> have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! > > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_13174_21262891.1217685651948 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
 I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now,

Hmm wish mine was that small...

Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take  two rack cases, in fact,

OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top things on the lid... like this ---
http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988
except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!)

Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! )

Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and actual sq ft, cant be much different...

What IS the damage really? In dollars...?

PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar is a piece of...

M.x




On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Zoe
well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need?

http://www.gordius.be/

tech support from Xavier is superb.

I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work
on the Gordius.


andy butler
ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold



info at zoekeating wrote:
ah the endless foot controller issue...

i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA

i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what people say...)

but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief.

so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to have the expression pedals removed from the FCB.






--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_13174_21262891.1217685651948-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 14:02:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED0943BFAC; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=Z3/iDhJ1QML4EsTgoFd2Yo09QHCCBSlYg+/Y04B+juc=; b=U9zxLxJ7OeeIZvQr+iNVBw8bLY5dqBD59XvJ+ojHK0TkB4DZlt4+ecMYAdSUyeMEXp YNEUUxhZatIMQVNpxx4gdKTGZ0/7FqNbnUHj0ePLanXJKjd+mJPFy528rZLFB705yMFj X58uO1cxS0zBSMEV/3c8snC1ITWevXmADnI/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=EkaMK8ZJHcoco1sUHzO9zhhSQqY9KlzoaiHcz85TmSxMKxguaxMfQ4VydzYKSamqWs uYoXKO/nkI0wsk9Wiz4b2Ny0EZB+oJZyVfGxLqJda9nxSM5mk+3OQoeTIHvsoht1SP7d jB/xX9WXfRZLMGwo6WC/KFx8ie2JU7FzSEHOE= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808020702i69f86f80nf0cfa3fc5590afbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:02:26 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808020658j3ea845f2h84df876274aeb248@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13186_12296939.1217685746848" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020658j3ea845f2h84df876274aeb248@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 53e118ed39e035ba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:02:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13186_12296939.1217685746848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Im sure it cant have been sarcasm... you speak the truth my friend... ------=_Part_13186_12296939.1217685746848 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Im sure it cant have been sarcasm... you speak the truth my friend...
------=_Part_13186_12296939.1217685746848-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 14:03:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 876BD3BFB9; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=uE0KqtOAOoTAVj8yu9r0x3r7+pdUd9M/oPE8UBP5Wv8=; b=V2l6HW/ZdX4+odrZNXJRIJre4QCw6VecrzJy4ogD8DkgImdxdc9CB87EMPbkiYZS1u 9kbMS1pz9Banpb+Pmy8Qmpy96SuYCfo+ByxBtkYhKMexuVPkMRoUxv7gTv423CkH+0NU wFPW7Dic/G2WFUHSh3XhoxuBKN4Z0UFAcRFeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=RZ6IKWdrC1q4LQ/xuX2A8zpVON/UJFGLe5MVrrXy3Z8z4SJHKPe0h+CgndaS8r/YV7 KiZp18nGaXzQjzD8/UfWM6ZiKhidIQ5SmNgMqzC8yCaQML8zCU9o+YpOUfRZsc8kWzGw Sp3En885I+jpI2A7n++UCFS4sydx+x9GY4Uco= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:02:59 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808020658j3ea845f2h84df876274aeb248@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15236_18625866.1217685779378" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020658j3ea845f2h84df876274aeb248@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:03:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15236_18625866.1217685779378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Not sarcasm intended, Dave.Just poor english!.. Catalonia (east spain). Thanks for the link! Raul. 2008/8/2 Dave > I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm > certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the > empirical evidence points me... > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > >> No discussion possible. Dave's point 100% accurated. >> >> 2008/8/2 Dave >> >>> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying >>> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may >>> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how >>> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on >>> terror'. >>> >>> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a >>> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his >>> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started >>> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind >>> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll >>> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they >>> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to >>> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my >>> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just >>> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another >>> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to >>> before they get out of office... >>> >>> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? >>> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ >>> >>> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it >>> incorrect.... >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >>> >>>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >>>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >>>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >>>> >>>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >>>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >>>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >>>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >>>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >>>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >>>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >>>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >>>> >>>> Warren >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >>> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra >> TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com >> > > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_15236_18625866.1217685779378 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Not sarcasm intended, Dave.
Just poor english!.. Catalonia (east spain).

 Thanks for the link!

Raul.

2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the empirical evidence points me...


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
No discussion possible. 
Dave's point 100% accurated.


2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



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------=_Part_15236_18625866.1217685779378-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 15:23:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B50683BFA5; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=T3LqzzOOtrGH0a8csANnK5S9rYEk3cB0eWJVGPOszt4=; b=GfpJQt2590T4uQm1xtZxSIIlQfBLtejoE+mQLzeFKNg7SIviLVQM+V59tSUsKl8AcR 1bazwmUVXxoJph8pYYYlVLUZeK6HyRp5Mj+uyDn0N5KpStbCVeP1zDspPD0uKS9/S2Z1 NC5p2yUqifR/qGyBQm1UNp7nJAH/xPMM2WaSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jOiyatvkGZxY19FltAMckSrF2NVtmbB4L/nyUdb72BdEBdZ1WPmTjwr3KG+dTY+OFq Sb3ox2vMRp6uBw87FZXr5BEis8BC76FYf/2JzBvaKJK7pQ0Pv1UXV7w0SDZYdsLs0C9a vRqmveoXQjWKr+uVmduJnOIJ2yjXoP2dAA+yY= Message-ID: <4759e5740808020823q45256fa8m4331c52661996d7a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:23:08 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: So what IS the damage when travelling by plane? WAS Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11360_19459226.1217690588891" References: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:23:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11360_19459226.1217690588891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline on most airlines which I travel these days, an extra bag is $50, an third extra bag is $100 additional. over 50 lbs on any one of them is anywhere from $50 to $100, more likely the latter, and over 70 lbs is not accepted. ugh. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:00 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > >> I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now, >> > > Hmm wish mine was that small... > >> >> Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel >> now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take two rack >> cases, in fact, >> > > OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What > exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a > BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, > thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top > things on the lid... like this --- > http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988 > except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!) > > Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" > x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! ) > > Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with > these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and > actual sq ft, cant be much different... > > What IS the damage really? In dollars...? > > PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar > is a piece of... > > M.x > > > >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler wrote: >> >>> hi Zoe >>> well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need? >>> >>> http://www.gordius.be/ >>> >>> tech support from Xavier is superb. >>> >>> I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work >>> on the Gordius. >>> >>> >>> andy butler >>> ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold >>> >>> >>> >>> info at zoekeating wrote: >>> >>>> ah the endless foot controller issue... >>>> >>>> i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved >>>> (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and >>>> THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA >>>> >>>> i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i >>>> love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a >>>> tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. >>>> plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, >>>> all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support >>>> has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i >>>> know about the history of behringer and what people say...) >>>> >>>> but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my >>>> looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard >>>> with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the >>>> FCB causes me no end of grief. >>>> >>>> so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to >>>> have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! >> >> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no > -- Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_11360_19459226.1217690588891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
on most airlines which I travel these days, an extra bag is $50, an third extra bag is $100 additional.  

over 50 lbs on any one of them is anywhere from $50 to $100, more likely the latter, 

and over 70 lbs is not accepted.  

ugh.



On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:00 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
 I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now,

Hmm wish mine was that small...

Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take  two rack cases, in fact,

OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top things on the lid... like this ---
http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988
except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!)

Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! )

Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and actual sq ft, cant be much different...

What IS the damage really? In dollars...?

PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar is a piece of...

M.x




On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Zoe
well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need?

http://www.gordius.be/

tech support from Xavier is superb.

I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work
on the Gordius.


andy butler
ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold



info at zoekeating wrote:
ah the endless foot controller issue...

i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA

i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what people say...)

but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief.

so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to have the expression pedals removed from the FCB.






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Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com




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www.looop.no



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http://blog.toddreynolds.com

------=_Part_11360_19459226.1217690588891-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 15:27:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 684D43BFB1; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qm2TmvBMxf5Hv88LA7jRVRjoXtEiY2RRAnTeZKq1eWo=; b=n4tITV8i66lU0B2uxhMxnZsM0S0BIfl4mx75fm+Wy4Gs475bUPt71NBoKvspX/qOM7 HYP9N3r4Y5rD0OnE6GW5SBB3ykwGDTxTyHwdPZz9pVxANpxLWeWgos+yf+71xDpx7daE r5EdxnOrrhtuvaJSgC0zSCBKtyizmf+XfdrFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jqOJERsqb4yjHgT1S4XTXISg5HDfxLkjMdKVo2vNj9tDsFreVgxkHt0WclaVH9/XAh mzMUT0ne8a1ofzqso3oKNPFVGrOtMVy6jwZ2K81f7wxaXCXhGCV6arZ88L1mz74kEcWn 3Xqx8+6vILPgRbqWem38HLj3VsQkWohdnpR6M= Message-ID: <4759e5740808020827v42c00032pcc58c890ce4820a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:27:50 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: So what IS the damage when travelling by plane? WAS Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <4759e5740808020823q45256fa8m4331c52661996d7a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11391_21914134.1217690871010" References: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> <4759e5740808020823q45256fa8m4331c52661996d7a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:27:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11391_21914134.1217690871010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline but I neglected to say a few things... on 'smallness', I'm carrying 4 rack spaces in an SKB rotorack, which is by definition smaller, but it's the same stuff that most of us carry, an audio interface, oberheim, two wireless units, rackmounted power strip. Zoe's may be larger starting with two repeaters, that's 4U right there. Also, Mark, a quick google on any airline name along with 'baggage pricing and restrictions' will yield same results as below. I'm not traveling internationally until November to Poland, and at that point, i might just buy an ultralight and take no hardware whatsoever to save myself. It will be a good experiment. Bests, Todd On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:23 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > on most airlines which I travel these days, an extra bag is $50, an third > extra bag is $100 additional. > over 50 lbs on any one of them is anywhere from $50 to $100, more likely > the latter, > > and over 70 lbs is not accepted. > > ugh. > > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:00 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds wrote: >> >>> I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now, >>> >> >> Hmm wish mine was that small... >> >>> >>> Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we >>> travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take two >>> rack cases, in fact, >>> >> >> OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What >> exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a >> BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, >> thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top >> things on the lid... like this --- >> http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988 >> except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!) >> >> Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" >> x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! ) >> >> Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with >> these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and >> actual sq ft, cant be much different... >> >> What IS the damage really? In dollars...? >> >> PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar >> is a piece of... >> >> M.x >> >> >> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler wrote: >>> >>>> hi Zoe >>>> well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need? >>>> >>>> http://www.gordius.be/ >>>> >>>> tech support from Xavier is superb. >>>> >>>> I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work >>>> on the Gordius. >>>> >>>> >>>> andy butler >>>> ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> info at zoekeating wrote: >>>> >>>>> ah the endless foot controller issue... >>>>> >>>>> i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved >>>>> (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and >>>>> THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA >>>>> >>>>> i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i >>>>> love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a >>>>> tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. >>>>> plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, >>>>> all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support >>>>> has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i >>>>> know about the history of behringer and what people say...) >>>>> >>>>> but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and >>>>> my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB >>>>> onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the >>>>> bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief. >>>>> >>>>> so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to >>>>> have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! >>> >>> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.looop.no >> > > > > -- > Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! > > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > > -- Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_11391_21914134.1217690871010 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
but I neglected to say a few things... 

on 'smallness', I'm carrying 4 rack spaces in an SKB rotorack, which is by definition smaller, but it's the same stuff that most of us carry, an audio interface, oberheim, two wireless units, rackmounted power strip.  Zoe's may be larger starting with two repeaters, that's 4U right there.

Also, Mark, a quick google on any airline name along with 'baggage pricing and restrictions' will yield same results as below. I'm not traveling internationally until November to Poland, and at that point, i might just buy an ultralight and take no hardware whatsoever to save myself. It will be a good experiment.

Bests,  Todd

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:23 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
on most airlines which I travel these days, an extra bag is $50, an third extra bag is $100 additional.  

over 50 lbs on any one of them is anywhere from $50 to $100, more likely the latter, 

and over 70 lbs is not accepted.  

ugh.



On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:00 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
 I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now,

Hmm wish mine was that small...

Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take  two rack cases, in fact,

OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top things on the lid... like this ---
http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988
except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!)

Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! )

Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and actual sq ft, cant be much different...

What IS the damage really? In dollars...?

PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar is a piece of...

M.x




On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Zoe
well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need?

http://www.gordius.be/

tech support from Xavier is superb.

I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work
on the Gordius.


andy butler
ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold



info at zoekeating wrote:
ah the endless foot controller issue...

i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA

i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what people say...)

but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief.

so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to have the expression pedals removed from the FCB.






--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no



--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com




--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com

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In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15013_12511339.1217693000624" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020658j3ea845f2h84df876274aeb248@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:03:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15013_12511339.1217693000624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline You're more than welcome... Most American's English ain't that goodly either... Hasn't it been said that the Engish and the Americans have a common language to separate them? ;) On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > Not sarcasm intended, Dave.Just poor english!.. Catalonia (east spain). > > Thanks for the link! > > Raul. > > > 2008/8/2 Dave > >> I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm >> certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the >> empirical evidence points me... >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> >>> No discussion possible. Dave's point 100% accurated. >>> >>> 2008/8/2 Dave >>> >>>> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying >>>> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may >>>> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how >>>> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on >>>> terror'. >>>> >>>> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a >>>> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his >>>> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started >>>> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind >>>> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll >>>> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they >>>> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to >>>> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my >>>> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just >>>> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another >>>> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to >>>> before they get out of office... >>>> >>>> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? >>>> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ >>>> >>>> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it >>>> incorrect.... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >>>> >>>>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >>>>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >>>>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >>>>> >>>>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >>>>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >>>>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >>>>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >>>>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >>>>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >>>>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >>>>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >>>>> >>>>> Warren >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to >>>> the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo >>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >>> TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra >>> TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >> > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_15013_12511339.1217693000624 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
You're more than welcome...

Most American's English ain't that goodly either...

Hasn't it been said that the Engish and the Americans have a common language to separate them? ;)

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
Not sarcasm intended, Dave.
Just poor english!.. Catalonia (east spain).

 Thanks for the link!

Raul.


2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the empirical evidence points me...


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
No discussion possible. 
Dave's point 100% accurated.


2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 19:12:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 854033BF88; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MD93UUcVs4hFRFbmVoEA:9 a=71rztex5eb2ihlh90Mr9k8sfxgoA:4 a=hpF-ijbX5cwA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: more thoughts about the FCB1010 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:12:42 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <5tbdbC.A.suF.pGLlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Why not just UPS it to wherever you are going? On Aug 1, 2008, at 11:28 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > one other thought about the FCB... > > i played a 3hr gig today at the SF Airport, and it was about half > improvisation (i was directly over the TSA security checkpoint and > thought uplifting ambiance would be a good thing to do rather than > "songs"). i realize that the FCB is so tied into my loopers (which > today was 4 instances of SooperLooper and 2 Electrix Repeaters) > that i think of the FCB as the instrument, rather than the loopers. > i like how direct it is. i don't even think about it, and in fact, > i hardly even have to look at it (er, because it is so LARGE, the > thing i complain about). > > it was really nice to be so fluid. i could just improvise freely > and build up endless structures, and my tools were transparent. > that was a nice place to be. > > i'm hoping this will also be true for any other foot controller i > choose...fingers crossed. but there is something important about > not having to think in "modes" (i.e. software modes, like tabs in > an interface) but instead being directly mapped to your devices. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 20:22:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 205893BF88; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=U7QNE6dL2wYA:10 a=KKp-qGfS-MoA:10 a=jKf0Pfm3AAAA:8 a=OMSU3QLGAAAA:8 a=62hPNct7AAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=g78805m0lWjfzJX-6ksA:9 a=qAwxVQM0pwiwUu-QWzsA:7 a=VS5V_QSmvZ77N8Hka2BrqOTnTKgA:4 a=by2dKgXnggYA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:22:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:22:55 +0000 (UTC) hello there, do you know if you can edit the program change messages sent in standard mode? for example if the bank number display says 01, you can have the program change message be 23 (instead of 01). i don't own an FC300 but i've been trying to figure this out from the manual. thanks! zoe On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:02 AM, Sjaak wrote: >> Luis wrote >> Ive heard good things about this one >> http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html >> Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your questions >> here is his web > > Hey Luis, how's life? :) Yes, the FC-300 is a very flexible > controller. For example, it can send up to 6 control change > messages per expression pedal on different midi channels. And has > been very reliable so far. > > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 20:36:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48CEE3BF92; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Nk1VVVJ3gmAA:10 a=YXOspHT6iKkA:10 a=Rkq2MSCPPwGV3P_ASmYA:9 a=TQqzyjDBXNQYx1jlDcQA:7 a=6QW01EMsZdcNSu3GZ3kbU1FuAvQA:4 a=bc-At0-sGGwA:10 a=zQ9c0w_PcFEgWKRTp2UA:9 a=d3Up6Vab4aVCUO9VW7oA:7 a=CluF-Jc2uYKh4xOf2019ZrkolQ8A:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-1031496912 Message-Id: From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:36:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:36:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-1031496912 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed this is my problem...when i travel, i've already got: - cello in flight case = oversize (bigger than a person) but 49lbs - looping rig/gear in flight case = standard luggage size, 49lbs - my clothes + costumes + merch in a suitcase - computer/carry on - behringer pedal in violin case/carry on so that's already 3 checked bags, one of them oversize = EXPENSIVE i'm reluctant to also check the pedal, unless it is in a padded case...more weight and that makes 4 checked items and that is the maximum weight i can handle on when i'm traveling as alone. its almost too much, getting around it a bit of a nightmare. the damn behringer pedal pushes it over the top, as much as i love it. On Aug 2, 2008, at 1:31 AM, andy butler wrote: > andy butler > ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold --Apple-Mail-3-1031496912 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 this is my problem...when i travel, i've already = got:=A0

-=A0cello in flight case =3D = oversize (bigger than a person) but 49lbs=A0
-=A0looping= rig/gear in flight case =3D standard luggage size, = 49lbs
= -=A0my clothes + costumes + merch in a suitcase
= -=A0computer/carry on
-=A0behringer pedal in violin = case/carry on

so that's already 3 checked bags, = one of them oversize =3D EXPENSIVE
i'm reluctant to also check = the pedal, unless it is in a padded case...more weight and that makes 4 = checked items

and that is the maximum weight i = can handle on when i'm traveling as alone.
its almost too = much, getting around it a bit of a = nightmare.

the damn behringer pedal pushes it = over the top, as much as i love = it.



On Aug 2, = 2008, at 1:31 AM, andy butler wrote:

andy butler

=

ps when I used = fcb1010, it would travel in the hold

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= --Apple-Mail-3-1031496912-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 20:49:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D40EB3BF9B; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:49:09 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: New LP1 live improvisation MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 87.66.126.71 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I just uploaded a new live improvisation on Myspace, the first one I crea= ted live with the LP1. I must say I'm really happy with it...and now I'm = on holidays for the next 8 days ;) Have fun! --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 20:59:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED9803BF99; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=j0XfBECEO0MhXueDAvcBH6/81HW1gSw3x4tl0zlh86M=; b=jQjJ9UR/jdj46+thaGlD9mCAzSHZMwVdpurGnDCln57B4PfgVJR++uo7vrTPQMRVrm 5awzxXM/+lSTcktz4fppuGjbwtO2s0DfewP9SoJ74Ecc2AxXv4RSjlqXWcpKlg/cO67f VQthNTYV4MDSN7cB6tTCdy3B9gCql/5qZbr9E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=j3fPl+v56s1DGpmURPR4UtAsYUmDJsS2Pnw+tcPRkV3uSKLjQD4AkWtjEJK3PgTk/A 8U2UKWLla3ETCu1kW6bMUT3JS/p6cpy7U+P3sdfFlBCKUaot0YgrNL4iCQxsl3IujkT4 FAjuD4ZhJdY7WaERDfGNnNB7v8wvadf+KO5JE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808021359q270e6915p2e2cea249e1ff9ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:59:18 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New LP1 live improvisation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:59:18 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Hi, > I just uploaded a new live improvisation on Myspace, the first one I created live with the LP1. I must say I'm really happy with it...and now I'm on holidays for the next 8 days ;) Have fun! That sound really good, Sjaak! I'm listening here as I'm typing and the MySpace player says "Plays 1"!!!! :-)) What an honor! Have a wonderful holday! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 20:59:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB9DE3BF9E; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AKrjdibl0CAA:10 a=v5FW-yWJaJUA:10 a=N45UQfIpVBsu670fdPEA:9 a=-qfyDod9uVruMIq2T7Oj9hxeT6cA:4 a=NYSBMI4Qr4UA:10 a=LqrWzZgd83avNXTgFgwA:9 a=nP2xOL4NxCwZWtOyNIwhYhvj6dcA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-1032899352 Message-Id: From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: So what IS the damage when travelling by plane? WAS Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:59:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <_5OBJD.A.yWB.BrMlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:59:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-1032899352 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed depends on the airline and how much cleavage you can show them...fees should be on their website. if i get a humorless clerk who is impervious to cleavage and charm i might pay $100-$150 for oversize, plus $100 for each extra bag, and even more if that extra bag happens to be over 50lbs. however, that was BEFORE all the baggage charges. so i assume when i fly next week, it will cost even more. On Aug 2, 2008, at 7:00 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > What IS the damage really? In dollars...? > > PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my > guitar is a piece of... --Apple-Mail-5-1032899352 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII depends on the airline and how = much cleavage you can show them...fees should be on their = website.

if i get a humorless clerk who is impervious = to cleavage and charm i might pay $100-$150 for oversize, plus $100 for = each extra bag, and even more if that extra bag happens to be over = 50lbs.

however, that was BEFORE all the baggage = charges. so i assume when i fly next week, it will cost even = more.



On Aug 2, = 2008, at 7:00 AM, mark francombe wrote:


What IS the damage really? In = dollars...?

PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in = the hold... my guitar is a piece = of...

= --Apple-Mail-5-1032899352-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 21:04:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CECE3BFAC; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:04:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01C8F4B0.FFC3C2A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <-kKbQC.A.ZhB.KvMlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:04:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C8F4B0.FFC3C2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good grief. When are you going to go all laptop, Zoe? Check out Jeff = Kaiser's article "How I lost 150 lbs. thanks to Max/MSP!"=20 http://www.jeffkaiser.com/papers/spark_2007.pdf I don't see musician wages continuing to go up in proportation to flying = costs, so I envision a time when musicians will be forced to dispense = with rack gear, or not play anywhere they can't drive to. It will be an = adapt and go laptop or die of starvation scenario. I can bring my entire rig on the plane (one computer bag) and my mini = jazz guitar in case. =20 So, what are you paying for the checked in bags below? Aren't some = airlines charging for a second and third check in back now? I think a = few are even charing for one.=20 Kris ********** this is my problem...when i travel, i've already got:=20 - cello in flight case =3D oversize (bigger than a person) but 49lbs=20 - looping rig/gear in flight case =3D standard luggage size, 49lbs - my clothes + costumes + merch in a suitcase - computer/carry on - behringer pedal in violin case/carry on so that's already 3 checked bags, one of them oversize =3D EXPENSIVE i'm reluctant to also check the pedal, unless it is in a padded = case...more weight and that makes 4 checked items and that is the maximum weight i can handle on when i'm traveling as = alone. its almost too much, getting around it a bit of a nightmare. the damn behringer pedal pushes it over the top, as much as i love it. On Aug 2, 2008, at 1:31 AM, andy butler wrote: andy butler ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C8F4B0.FFC3C2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good grief.  When are you going to = go all=20 laptop, Zoe?  Check out Jeff Kaiser's article "How I lost 150 = lbs.=20 thanks to Max/MSP!"
 
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I don't see musician wages continuing = to go up in=20 proportation to flying costs, so I envision a time when musicians will = be forced=20 to dispense with rack gear, or not play anywhere they can't drive = to.  It=20 will be an adapt and go laptop or die of = starvation scenario.
 
I can bring my entire rig on the plane = (one=20 computer bag) and my mini jazz guitar in case. 
 
So, what are you paying for the checked = in bags=20 below?  Aren't some airlines charging for a second and third check = in back=20 now?  I think a few are even charing for one.
 
Kris


**********
this is my = problem...when i=20 travel, i've already got:

- cello in flight case =3D oversize = (bigger than=20 a person) but 49lbs
- looping rig/gear in flight case =3D standard = luggage=20 size, 49lbs
- my clothes + costumes + merch in a suitcase
- = computer/carry=20 on
- behringer pedal in violin case/carry on

so that's already = 3=20 checked bags, one of them oversize =3D EXPENSIVE
i'm reluctant to = also check=20 the pedal, unless it is in a padded case...more weight and that makes 4 = checked=20 items

and that is the maximum weight i can handle on when i'm = traveling=20 as alone.
its almost too much, getting around it a bit of a=20 nightmare.


the damn behringer pedal pushes it over the top, = as much=20 as i love it.






On Aug 2, 2008, at 1:31 AM, = andy butler=20 wrote:


andy butler
ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel = in the=20 hold
------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C8F4B0.FFC3C2A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 21:17:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BAEF3BFCC; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Nk1VVVJ3gmAA:10 a=YXOspHT6iKkA:10 a=gH5bP67CAAAA:8 a=Ql3BUjdrxaFswxfyGYQA:9 a=uxjzFj2KnEuE8xri3cYA:7 a=9zzwTYJ_HMVWY9MFmxYNRNndK_MA:4 a=JlJGbxHC2ywA:10 a=Q0l4heWF6ngqoLIMZbIA:9 a=4zUXE1qDXhnXiM2QW5oA:7 a=QFWj6HDSWdu7l8UFTmHv7VLfZA0A:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-1033973737 Message-Id: <5B183E97-832A-4BA0-9CF2-928E13A95978@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:17:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:17:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-1033973737 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed yup, it is ridiculous. i do still hope to lose the repeaters and the pedal for my next trip. economy-wise though, i've been flying most recently for corporate gigs, where they pay for all the travel. so i shouldn't really complain because i'm not personally paying the fees (although i have to explain them!). but for carbon reasons i want to fly less. its something i think about every time and why i try not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm flown to some distant location for one concert). On Aug 2, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Good grief. When are you going to go all laptop, Zoe? Check out > Jeff Kaiser's article "How I lost 150 lbs. thanks to Max/MSP!" > > http://www.jeffkaiser.com/papers/spark_2007.pdf > > I don't see musician wages continuing to go up in proportation to > flying costs, so I envision a time when musicians will be forced to > dispense with rack gear, or not play anywhere they can't drive to. > It will be an adapt and go laptop or die of starvation scenario. > > I can bring my entire rig on the plane (one computer bag) and my > mini jazz guitar in case. > > So, what are you paying for the checked in bags below? Aren't some > airlines charging for a second and third check in back now? I > think a few are even charing for one. > > Kris > --Apple-Mail-6-1033973737 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 yup, it is ridiculous. i do still hope to lose the repeaters and the = pedal for my next trip.

economy-wise though, i've = been flying most recently for corporate gigs, where they pay for all the = travel. so i shouldn't really complain because i'm not personally paying = the fees (although i have to explain them!). but=A0for carbon reasons i = want to fly less. its something i think about every time and why i try = not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm flown to some distant = location for one = concert).


On Aug 2, 2008, at = 2:04 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

Good grief.=A0 When are you going to go all laptop, Zoe?=A0 = Check out Jeff Kaiser's article=A0"How I lost 150 lbs. thanks to = Max/MSP!"
=A0
http://www.jeffkaiser.com/papers/spark_2007.pdf
=A0
I don't see musician wages continuing to go up = in proportation to flying costs, so I envision a time when musicians = will be forced to dispense with rack gear, or not play anywhere they = can't drive to.=A0 It will be an adapt and go laptop or die of = starvation=A0scenario.
=A0
I can = bring my entire rig on the plane (one computer bag) and my mini jazz = guitar in case.=A0
=A0
So, what = are you paying for the checked in bags below?=A0 Aren't some airlines = charging for a second and third check in back now?=A0 I think a few are = even charing for one.
=A0
Kris


= --Apple-Mail-6-1033973737-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 22:12:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F40583BFB9; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1F653C97633C408C81119F193F0586C0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> <5B183E97-832A-4BA0-9CF2-928E13A95978@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:12:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C8F4BA.9C697330" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:12:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C8F4BA.9C697330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hear you. When I read that data on carbon emissions of jets, I was = floored. I only travel 2-3 times a quarter (3 months) on average, but it = still counts. Then I was even more floored when I read the greenhouse = impact of the cows and the beef industry. Cripes. Sort of compells me = to stop eating beef....I'm getting there. Sorry, this is OT. :) Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: info at zoekeating=20 but for carbon reasons i want to fly less. its something i think about = every time and why i try not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm = flown to some distant location for one concert). ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C8F4BA.9C697330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I hear you. When I read that data on = carbon=20 emissions of jets, I was floored. I only travel 2-3 times a quarter (3 = months)=20 on average, but it still counts. Then I was even more floored when I = read the=20 greenhouse impact of the cows and the beef industry. Cripes. =  Sort of=20 compells me to stop eating beef....I'm getting there. Sorry, this is OT. = :)
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 info at=20 zoekeating

but for carbon reasons i want = to fly=20 less. its something i think about every time and why i try not to do = "one-off"=20 gigs anymore (where i'm flown to some distant location for one = concert).

 
------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C8F4BA.9C697330-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 00:10:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3180D3BFB3; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=m7IPvQaD9u4lHH8LoIojwsTWBCFxuEipguBotUX8MUo=; b=CAiPkjVaHDR+Di0TsJIfAv2w4z51oa6f5tv2JQ4iPv1iOlSTWTuSKbka2MpXhCtUS+ +nVTotBxD87/znk7vgaxST/N7S6IMdzv6wLKvpnnGDT5+aukYy8ubqDmvsJrRB1nTvO8 ZPMVDwoq2qWkQfk8XfoH+DPYFK3ooy3yGm9Aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=QMHvv6e0wWEnY6on3Su0cUDEgXew6Kb0LzFEb+mEWDjT1QFLwoDkZmUI3SwgyxDmTD NF6McXR1SbLOm4F1dJsluP/icok4XlS7LLKiegNaKfWQgmH+XxbDfn4ypdVeX22/rSNF x0QE4TJqhh+RB4N1+UHcoSESnB3seXRcwukJ0= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808021710m1285a538s7d80c4fa386e747d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:10:26 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <1F653C97633C408C81119F193F0586C0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16628_18315408.1217722226107" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> <5B183E97-832A-4BA0-9CF2-928E13A95978@zoekeating.com> <1F653C97633C408C81119F193F0586C0@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 04543b2f689a28b5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:10:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16628_18315408.1217722226107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2-3 times a quarter??????? Did you say ONLY???? Where to? I flew once last year, (ok twice ..there and back) I have flown once this year and expect to do so once more... But I heard that figure about the Cow farts too... is that true?? Quite incredible and serious!!! Apparently far more dangerous than Air Travel On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I hear you. When I read that data on carbon emissions of jets, I was > floored. I only travel 2-3 times a quarter (3 months) on average, but it > still counts. Then I was even more floored when I read the greenhouse impact > of the cows and the beef industry. Cripes. Sort of compells me to stop > eating beef....I'm getting there. Sorry, this is OT. :) > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* info at zoekeating > > but for carbon reasons i want to fly less. its something i think about > every time and why i try not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm flown > to some distant location for one concert). > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_16628_18315408.1217722226107 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
2-3 times a quarter??????? Did you say ONLY????
Where to?

I flew once last year, (ok twice ..there and back)
I have flown once this year and expect to do so once more...

But I heard that figure about the Cow farts too... is that true?? Quite incredible and serious!!! Apparently far more dangerous than Air Travel



On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
I hear you. When I read that data on carbon emissions of jets, I was floored. I only travel 2-3 times a quarter (3 months) on average, but it still counts. Then I was even more floored when I read the greenhouse impact of the cows and the beef industry. Cripes.  Sort of compells me to stop eating beef....I'm getting there. Sorry, this is OT. :)
 
Kris
 
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but for carbon reasons i want to fly less. its something i think about every time and why i try not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm flown to some distant location for one concert).

 



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------=_Part_16628_18315408.1217722226107-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 00:26:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FCF53BFCB; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=vF5itsSTq+0MnZBrGcJfhQO8KhAB/rLzlgOKEmbPYsM=; b=eft+9UlUR4q5IbXiqKBjjDKmiDAO4XO8gvPXXsE+dVEA0GUQUvOs/cwBhgz8IacI/m Jv4FjwXTh7i1EwFLCHI68kKdpuZGQTZzDTMZvTLOHhvP9PdSHQc420sgEpY6FGN83FXU VG/vtKfBsDNtGLZuOZX+MFwJ7oHphj484JZbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=LzBblRj0Q+mR3h+DyU1smmzL4gcgUW6ygsRFBV3dDxHXryYwRbT2fPyeV/4Jv6FZyq 35Y/qn2x5fkHr6KjLGjc4pSc5G70lc11YvhJETltb0+lHhbgNd9HBHAr2k+nJmccBbvz u3FQQiyNvf3G8JNzNg/mMmuLbYRAP2FIFHhAo= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808021726i11ff7cf5o801f8030cc5ad9f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:26:13 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16692_1804091.1217723173250" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 456a5b737e1b038d Resent-Message-ID: <2MZaBD.A._P.nsPlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:26:15 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16692_1804091.1217723173250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dave, i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch of salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist. THANK YOU! And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and drawn out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a shame, ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, but for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and presented messages. Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has it been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... if only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)... I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness and simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear! BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation of 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in this depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too however, can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow??? Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening... M On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave wrote: > They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying > the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may > not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how > they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on > terror'. > > Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a > terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his > enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started > wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind > of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll > know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they > know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to > insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my > opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just > something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another > notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to > before they get out of office... > > Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? > http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ > > Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >> >> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >> >> Warren >> >> > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_16692_1804091.1217723173250 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Dave,

i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch of salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist.

THANK YOU!

And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and drawn out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a shame, ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, but for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and presented messages.
Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has it been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... if only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)...
I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness and simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear!

BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation of 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in this depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too however, can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow???

Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening...

M


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




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------=_Part_16692_1804091.1217723173250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 00:51:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B64B3BFD0; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=Kq4vRpJGUTkIgInDKIWNKQVnF4YwQUgAv4TD5hkXQ8U=; b=UfFFuUxJEggr11syc8ypgtEGnab/uALq3s9N7RYE3XOoFeRt8aUhIjHhl0l0p46yUL Rc6z4/YpjUo7weddPblkCUdfK6JmfQ2goh/X8IClHQtYGVtVZWDb0d9OQhrn8N6+y3G3 honT5RML6WCjka4b7BOx+RgciPIVI0T3wZj28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=hWkuEj/xY1LchVlro3GzIo+srCNg+kSOxf6IeQAxK6oi7t7f0eTtwIGkUqBeKNfdZY 602OfBSAYn61MjnVMP2IlJWRTFstCrlpkpmaZ1dDEhWPgDImKBE90M/643DHyV86KbmW dWxZgmf0+Xdyx6O9R+Hhrr/5o3M3d1P1u45To= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:51:33 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17477_7042141.1217724693339" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:51:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17477_7042141.1217724693339 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yeah, there is a lot of pre-movie graphics, etc. I guess they needed to fill time...but they stuff so much info in afterwards, ya wonder why they bothered. Glad you liked it. Definitely opened my eyes to a few things. I knew a lot of the 9/11 stuff, and it's not that uncommon of knowledge (at least in my circles), but I think people here are resigned to the govt being too big and powerful for them to do anything. They keep us in fear, keep us broke, and keep stripping our rights...but there is no one organizing. And do you mean to tell me that people in *Norway* believe in the 9/11 / US govt conspiracy also? Has Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" been played there (though much milder than is this film)? The relevance to the section on religion is that US politicians invoke the name of G-d to help them get elected, then do nothing close to practicing wholesale Christianity once they have the chance, when they get into office, for thousands, if not millions, of people. They use it to consolidate voters for them. My understanding is that the discussion of personal religious beliefs by European candidates for office is basically unheard of. Perhaps that's why this portion doesn't come across? Personally, I think the 'separation of church and state' in America has done more to foster its growth than it has to hold it in check. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Dave, > > i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch of > salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist. > > THANK YOU! > > And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and drawn > out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a shame, > ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, but > for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and presented > messages. > Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has it > been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... if > only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)... > I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject > has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness and > simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear! > > BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation of > 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in this > depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too however, > can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow??? > > Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening... > > M > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave wrote: > >> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying >> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may >> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how >> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on >> terror'. >> >> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a >> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his >> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started >> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind >> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll >> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they >> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to >> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my >> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just >> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another >> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to >> before they get out of office... >> >> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? >> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ >> >> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >> >>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >>> >>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >>> >>> Warren >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_17477_7042141.1217724693339 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Yeah, there is a lot of pre-movie graphics, etc. I guess they needed to fill time...but they stuff so much info in afterwards, ya wonder why they bothered.

Glad you liked it. Definitely opened my eyes to a few things. I knew a lot of the 9/11 stuff, and it's not that uncommon of knowledge (at least in my circles), but I think people here are resigned to the govt being too big and powerful for them to do anything. They keep us in fear, keep us broke, and keep stripping our rights...but there is no one organizing.

And do you mean to tell me that people in *Norway* believe in the 9/11 / US govt conspiracy also?

Has Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" been played there (though much milder than is this film)?

The relevance to the section on religion is that US politicians invoke the name of G-d to help them get elected, then do nothing close to practicing wholesale Christianity once they have the chance, when they get into office, for thousands, if not millions, of people. They use it to consolidate voters for them. My understanding is that the discussion of personal religious beliefs by European candidates for office is basically unheard of. Perhaps that's why this portion doesn't come across?

Personally, I think the 'separation of church and state' in America has done more to foster its growth than it has to hold it in check.

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Dave,

i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch of salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist.

THANK YOU!

And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and drawn out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a shame, ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, but for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and presented messages.
Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has it been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... if only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)...
I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness and simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear!

BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation of 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in this depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too however, can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow???

Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening...

M


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no



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------=_Part_17477_7042141.1217724693339-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 02:08:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 820873BFC6; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=0OOAZARBQEX6vD8vBiXlfw+Ot0kwLCInAJLXR1Y43wQ=; b=S0ahqG/kbgmTcrXU7FnAnHBniSb2FkCRs4a89mrF/s+I+Tn4y+3Ygr65m7YJ0CHjLD mPxBEHwyJ8F8g2xaxS7XCwKKdmR36PDPf11FkcHfBUOT6m79TGMtO/4aO/SGUCL3bkvo 5JUPBzIHBAddfUL7xmV/uOdhq9E84MdxnldH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=OwEtxn6hCH3p0XSRaR0Qs0EvWfN2XhP+2Wk3unGgDzeaPUvAs2Heh6i8T4IJhF/vba jts67S+G4O8mR6lU5H8CrtR1l7SZNN+Vt9t75sIQdRdi3nHkDY3WZce9hctYrK7rNy3J OSlhE00umxcIJ0fS6grj4tuPUwX/UIqBelIZU= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:08:19 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: FCB 1010 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22885_29051338.1217729299381" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:08:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_22885_29051338.1217729299381 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Can anyone walk me through assigning just the basic ( record,overdub,multiply,insert,undo,nextloop,) functions to my midi foot controller 1-7. ------=_Part_22885_29051338.1217729299381 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Can anyone walk me through assigning just the basic ( record,overdub,multiply,insert,undo,nextloop,) functions to my  midi foot controller 1-7.
------=_Part_22885_29051338.1217729299381-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 02:13:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 326753BFB3; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=zPuxnNOu4Bbf91v0UX/uTjKma0vkKSr2s7L02UQDmxE=; b=YcfvFKQ+RZFVcmNr+wE1KT9e7F2KCxRXaZeu7hlk3Tx80weDjnUuQ9Jyxj62NcvRtr KgyRv2eMQqcuiGEP7v4xapnW4tgnRZiuag1PPUSuNwCsBfjeMYx3c+ONjXrCMQX/jRKj 3e5GYReRlWN2SVpJjDG6+GbLXeJFPvJ4gbsew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=mCab1U5m8udpFkot/zV4E0oAqWmVwnGIv37sSYzoWWO4gc4QJXlaR7erFY/guLxX6C CJq6XOYApJJzi72107kC7P88iyqkddoaM7um+ZshoIz6kU9OxexAhyE9qa1/GFVWzlYt EpXX6O6/AbKIZ3iWXkONb5vpRd7x9rDEgphT8= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:13:09 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: Looping Dilemna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22893_22938221.1217729589293" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:13:10 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_22893_22938221.1217729589293 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline So i use a echoplex digital pro plus synced out to a drum machine and i mainly loop a bassline to kick in the drums the just play guitar over it. But i would like to switch the bass line while keeping the drums playing undoing the phrase cuts it off abruptly and souns bad next loop cuts off the drums. Does replace do this sort of thing? ------=_Part_22893_22938221.1217729589293 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
So i use a echoplex digital pro plus synced out to a drum machine and i mainly loop a bassline to kick in the drums the just play guitar over it. But i would like to switch the bass line while keeping the drums playing undoing the phrase cuts it off abruptly and souns bad next loop cuts off the drums. Does replace do this sort of thing?
------=_Part_22893_22938221.1217729589293-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 02:36:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 251C63BFCA; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> <5B183E97-832A-4BA0-9CF2-928E13A95978@zoekeating.com> <1F653C97633C408C81119F193F0586C0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0808021710m1285a538s7d80c4fa386e747d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:36:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01C8F4DF.7187F900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:36:33 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C8F4DF.7187F900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, but that is all business trips. I only travely 1-2 times year for = music only. If I am lucky I can tag on a gig to a business trip, but I = have yet to pull that off. More environmental OT: I was reading an article from some famous = ecologist/environmentalist (can't recall his name) and he said that = eating a steak was worse than driving a car....though there were no = qualifications of that statement, as in 16 oz steak is worse than = driving 10 min a day, etc. I am sure someone has done the math out = there. If you think about it, the energy and time/space that goes into = making one cow (and I have experienced this first hand being raised on a = farm) - cow's energy to eat and digest, people energy to raise the cow, = grass or grain consumed by the cow, the gross amounts of land to contain = the cows, etc - amounts to a highly inefficient way to make food for = humans. We are basically giving one animal food to in turn become the = food for another animal, plus use up a lot o land and generate tons of = methane gas. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 2-3 times a quarter??????? Did you say ONLY???? Where to? I flew once last year, (ok twice ..there and back) I have flown once this year and expect to do so once more...=20 But I heard that figure about the Cow farts too... is that true?? = Quite incredible and serious!!! Apparently far more dangerous than Air = Travel On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Krispen Hartung = wrote: I hear you. When I read that data on carbon emissions of jets, I was = floored. I only travel 2-3 times a quarter (3 months) on average, but it = still counts. Then I was even more floored when I read the greenhouse = impact of the cows and the beef industry. Cripes. Sort of compells me = to stop eating beef....I'm getting there. Sorry, this is OT. :) Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: info at zoekeating=20 but for carbon reasons i want to fly less. its something i think = about every time and why i try not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where = i'm flown to some distant location for one concert). --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C8F4DF.7187F900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, but that is all business trips. I = only travely=20 1-2 times year for music only. If I am lucky I can tag on a gig to a = business=20 trip, but I have yet to pull that off.
 
More environmental OT: I was reading an = article=20 from some famous ecologist/environmentalist (can't recall his name) and = he said=20 that eating a steak was worse than driving a car....though there were no = qualifications of that statement, as in 16 oz steak is worse than = driving 10 min=20 a day, etc. I am sure someone has done the math out there.  If you = think=20 about it, the energy and time/space that goes into making one cow = (and I=20 have experienced this first hand being raised on a farm) - cow's energy = to eat=20 and digest, people energy to raise the cow, grass or grain consumed by = the cow,=20 the gross amounts of land to contain the cows, etc - amounts to a highly = inefficient way to make food for humans. We are basically giving one = animal food=20 to in turn become the food for another animal, plus use up a lot o land = and=20 generate tons of methane gas.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----

 
2-3 times a quarter??????? = Did you say=20 ONLY????
Where to?

I flew once last year, (ok twice ..there = and=20 back)
I have flown once this year and expect to do so once more...=20

But I heard that figure about the Cow farts too... is that = true??=20 Quite incredible and serious!!! Apparently far more dangerous than Air = Travel
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Krispen = Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>=20 wrote:
I hear you. When I read that data = on carbon=20 emissions of jets, I was floored. I only travel 2-3 times a quarter = (3=20 months) on average, but it still counts. Then I was even more = floored when I=20 read the greenhouse impact of the cows and the beef industry. = Cripes.=20  Sort of compells me to stop eating beef....I'm getting there. = Sorry,=20 this is OT. :)
 
Kris
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 info at zoekeating

but for=20 carbon reasons i want to fly less. its something i think about = every time=20 and why i try not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm flown to = some=20 distant location for one concert).

 
<= /DIV>

--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C8F4DF.7187F900-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 03:17:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 741883BFCC; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 03:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 23:17:17 EDT Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cd8.33d1a1c6.35c67d3d_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 03:17:21 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cd8.33d1a1c6.35c67d3d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/2/08 10:36:49 PM, khartung@cableone.net writes: > 16 oz steak > yummmm! "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) --part1_cd8.33d1a1c6.35c67d3d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 8/2/08 10:36:49 PM, khartung@cableone.net writes:


16 oz steak


yummmm!



"one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY

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(http://autos.= aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=3Daolaut00050000000017 ) --part1_cd8.33d1a1c6.35c67d3d_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 04:31:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E048A3BFD0; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ZR85DRfO4BS7Tanr58bE6ihvMYc577HLsH8cEsAOk5PqWMdO+qvZcw9CG8DdzPlQwA++vKc4WtLtUwQSMpp9agnWJb2YQH3oMIhmNlEsv9Rv+K+OJniJo0uT/7DTDVbW; Message-ID: <20080802233128.n85xonudq80sws88@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:31:28 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New LP1 live improvisation References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Very nice music, Sjaak. And a good workout for your LP1. Thanks for posting. -- Kevin Quoting Sjaak : > > Hi, > I just uploaded a new live improvisation on Myspace, the first one I > created live with the LP1. I must say I'm really happy with > it...and now I'm on holidays for the next 8 days ;) Have fun! > > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw > > > From UpdateAccounts@Paypall.com Sun Aug 3 04:37:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 15078 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:37:01 UTC Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.97]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FED03BF98; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (mwinf2327 [10.232.4.127]) by mwinf2310.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 60D8E1C06B10; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 01:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2327.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3E32570000C8; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 01:43:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from User (AMontpellier-158-1-175-30.w90-48.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.48.142.30]) by mwinf2327.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 2488C700008B; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 01:43:00 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080802234300149.2488C700008B@mwinf2327.orange.fr From: "PayPal Messages" Subject: INFORMATION: Update your, Credit Union, Account Debit/ Card Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 01:35:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20080802234300.2488C700008B@mwinf2327.orange.fr> To: undisclosed-recipients: ;

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 04:47:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B661C3BFD9; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:47:51 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=OEOXe7TkIAbgHbyF4vSys3niVcyYQl+NLempQlTGLcRlC/6TYZv5Czsz4dE1hJ96fzWqSxZ0OswAKAO/x1x8eTDvYNbYIQ8AVBOloGUnYjfdg2kIZqeDthLTS4Lla9HZ; Message-ID: <20080802234107.b5x9axvr408o88sc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:41:07 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <9e0440a60808010815w6599703cpc776f231fd60bcf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60808010815w6599703cpc776f231fd60bcf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Jim Goodin : > Kevin thank you. Interesting re the Koto though not on this record I'm > playing a lot of oud right now and using it on our current live shows and = in > all prob it will figure into our future recording work. > > Anyhow Kevin thank you for all your thoughts and taking time to listen to > our NBC. It's so bizarre to me how the plant figured in to all this but > speaks volumes about our balance between chinapainting living on-line > through the Net and live when we can arrange getting together. > > how goes Mr Thermin? > The first half of the year was challenging -- many distractions =20 demanded my attention and kept me out of the studio. On July 2nd, we =20 had 7" of rain in one hour. I've never had a drop of water in the =20 house however it rained so hard that the foundation drains backed up =20 -- water was coming UP through the drain. Enough water came up that =20 it seeped into my studio and ruined the carpet. Fortunately, no =20 equipment was damaged -- however I lost about two weeks of time =20 because I had to get everything out in time for them to put in new =20 carpet. As of last week, my studio is up and running again... and =20 without much time to spare because I'm on my way to Kingsport, KY to =20 perform in the electro-music festival: http://event.electro-music.com I'm working on a couple of new compositions that utilize my LP1 -- I =20 won't have them finished in time for electro-music, though. So, things are on the upswing here... life is good. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 09:24:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B036A3BFDC; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBODnghs17HA== Message-ID: <4029bek738jQdQ.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:24:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acj0hLzFdnwWQgr0Svec41XfQ1G1JgAxSanw In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:24:18 +0000 (UTC) > Here's a bit of a caution for those International travellers > (specifically Laptop Loopers) coming into the US. It looks > like the Department of Homeland Security has now begun taking > it upon itself to confiscate and rifle through the data on > some passengers' laptops, as well as storage devices. Now this sounds great! They may also forward the info to non-federal entities and...now if I was with the department of homeland security, I would make it a primary goal to confiscate any laptop from someone who is with a carmaker, computer or electronics maker etc., have the possibly encrypted info hacked open by the NSA and then give it to "non-federal entities" (like US carmakers, electronics makers) for a price. Think of the commercial possibilities! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 09:29:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 246193BFE1; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 56067404/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.155.197 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.155.197 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtgCAIIXlUhPTpvF/2dsb2JhbAAIiluiA4NS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,300,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="56067404" Message-ID: <48957A70.8070103@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:29:20 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Dilemna References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:29:06 +0000 (UTC) NextLoop shouldn't cut the drums if you set LoopCopy = ti (which means "copy timing to next loop") in that case the edp midi clock should keep running. Replace would work too. andy butler Aaron Austin wrote: > So i use a echoplex digital pro plus synced out to a drum machine and i > mainly loop a bassline to kick in the drums the just play guitar over > it. But i would like to switch the bass line while keeping the drums > playing undoing the phrase cuts it off abruptly and souns bad next loop > cuts off the drums. Does replace do this sort of thing? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 09:53:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1C6C3BFDF; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rMUDjOtX4eIjWofdS/Om/XGFO2QbG8fphaE9jEMm39M=; b=X5oRlYFvUGRaBXx67rRXSahmQtIBQvS9SbHDcKEDBlsFj70uTw/JKIfd8bmtQZ+qxs tAP1q2jV87IxP4OmjDBtLJw6sxyw+ZHPU5Nw1XBKoji3WJQEfa93fn0roYPqwPG1+CMq Ujq+fi0kmHtx5wBx1z7L6h9yEJSugfS3tIoCw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WG+Goav1KI5Jn9D4ZGSuiu0CYqVT2Rqd5JWjnx73wL9lmr1GQmMxlOY83drl3C25tC q0W4EVZE1mQp6QjFX7QpIZDbvKoixSRvC8Sw+U/p6hFUmXDKYJIcx7Ast1bIYJiQQBFn Lajs8ERJrb30UowdaAhgLUdVXHfA6utRkkeac= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:53:35 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the link. There is a bit of stretching on the astronomy, but it's interesting. The three stars in Orion's belt don't EXACTLY line up with Sirius, and they are always positioned that way, not just on December 24th. I think that whether or not they line up with the sunrise depends on where you are in the world, gotta check that. Does the sun/son homonym work in any language other than English? But it's interesting. I haven't gotten to the 9/11 stuff yet. On 8/2/08, Dave wrote: > Yeah, there is a lot of pre-movie graphics, etc. I guess they needed to fill > time...but they stuff so much info in afterwards, ya wonder why they > bothered. > > Glad you liked it. Definitely opened my eyes to a few things. I knew a lot > of the 9/11 stuff, and it's not that uncommon of knowledge (at least in my > circles), but I think people here are resigned to the govt being too big and > powerful for them to do anything. They keep us in fear, keep us broke, and > keep stripping our rights...but there is no one organizing. > > And do you mean to tell me that people in *Norway* believe in the 9/11 / US > govt conspiracy also? > > Has Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" been played there (though much milder > than is this film)? > > The relevance to the section on religion is that US politicians invoke the > name of G-d to help them get elected, then do nothing close to practicing > wholesale Christianity once they have the chance, when they get into office, > for thousands, if not millions, of people. They use it to consolidate voters > for them. My understanding is that the discussion of personal religious > beliefs by European candidates for office is basically unheard of. Perhaps > that's why this portion doesn't come across? > > Personally, I think the 'separation of church and state' in America has done > more to foster its growth than it has to hold it in check. > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch of >> salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist. >> >> THANK YOU! >> >> And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and drawn >> out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a shame, >> ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, but >> for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and >> presented >> messages. >> Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has it >> been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... if >> only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)... >> I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject >> has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness >> and >> simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear! >> >> BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation of >> 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in >> this >> depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too however, >> can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow??? >> >> Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening... >> >> M >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave wrote: >> >>> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying >>> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or >>> may >>> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of >>> how >>> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on >>> terror'. >>> >>> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a >>> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his >>> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and >>> started >>> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this >>> kind >>> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more >>> they'll >>> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they >>> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to >>> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In >>> my >>> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just >>> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another >>> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to >>> before they get out of office... >>> >>> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? >>> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ >>> >>> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it >>> incorrect.... >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >>>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >>>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >>>> >>>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >>>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >>>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >>>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >>>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >>>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >>>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >>>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >>>> >>>> Warren >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >>> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.looop.no >> > > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 09:59:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F8FE3BFE3; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=dJmVn8BHQVdfvBmwYoCNPqE5oW9dnzgeVVkDznDPm2Y=; b=cJNSGPaPO72/ENExdfQ+1A87crLw3AtYsCbWRRmvK+d9kvG12UxaqAJEP+yc3ejHBV BLtThoQL7Gyx2wX1Gamn1Irk/baDQNVi3/+lKZmwDjrlvhWzqtHl3BUaspcSL6U9pAxU CfD5loUc2f1Ln1nhggfblKsSbN2Os1rVDnKJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=G6cDJXaKgUCGmijF3JcAx/Ci2ELB1NwPOWAdGD2L66xBj6HWR8RgE91fAmNPZ5aOTd XlU4jdKNtqJLEL/ZKJKqG5zuH35pyVNyM/pyDYfDblPid52/CyQPjIE7X68IIgVmpZYM dlJUGNqI441wwWGKkDWovlQwhnhrIBPvSxClg= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 05:59:03 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18725_15702229.1217757543138" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:59:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_18725_15702229.1217757543138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline One thing they did leave out of the astronomy stuff is that the pyramids are laid out the same as Orion's belt, size and position-wise. How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining how the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis. I think we ought to start coming up with the next story, the story of the Aquarian. The Bull had it's story, as did the Ram, and now the Piscean...I mean, sh*t, I want to be tax-free, too.. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Mark Smart wrote: > Thanks for the link. There is a bit of stretching on the astronomy, > but it's interesting. > > The three stars in Orion's belt don't EXACTLY line up with Sirius, and > they are always positioned that way, not just on December 24th. I > think that whether or not they line up with the sunrise depends on > where you are in the world, gotta check that. > > Does the sun/son homonym work in any language other than English? > > But it's interesting. I haven't gotten to the 9/11 stuff yet. > > On 8/2/08, Dave wrote: > > Yeah, there is a lot of pre-movie graphics, etc. I guess they needed to > fill > > time...but they stuff so much info in afterwards, ya wonder why they > > bothered. > > > > Glad you liked it. Definitely opened my eyes to a few things. I knew a > lot > > of the 9/11 stuff, and it's not that uncommon of knowledge (at least in > my > > circles), but I think people here are resigned to the govt being too big > and > > powerful for them to do anything. They keep us in fear, keep us broke, > and > > keep stripping our rights...but there is no one organizing. > > > > And do you mean to tell me that people in *Norway* believe in the 9/11 / > US > > govt conspiracy also? > > > > Has Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" been played there (though much > milder > > than is this film)? > > > > The relevance to the section on religion is that US politicians invoke > the > > name of G-d to help them get elected, then do nothing close to practicing > > wholesale Christianity once they have the chance, when they get into > office, > > for thousands, if not millions, of people. They use it to consolidate > voters > > for them. My understanding is that the discussion of personal religious > > beliefs by European candidates for office is basically unheard of. > Perhaps > > that's why this portion doesn't come across? > > > > Personally, I think the 'separation of church and state' in America has > done > > more to foster its growth than it has to hold it in check. > > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM, mark francombe > > wrote: > > > >> Dave, > >> > >> i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch > of > >> salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist. > >> > >> THANK YOU! > >> > >> And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and > drawn > >> out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a > shame, > >> ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, > but > >> for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and > >> presented > >> messages. > >> Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has > it > >> been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... > if > >> only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)... > >> I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject > >> has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness > >> and > >> simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear! > >> > >> BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation > of > >> 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in > >> this > >> depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too > however, > >> can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow??? > >> > >> Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening... > >> > >> M > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave > wrote: > >> > >>> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and > copying > >>> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or > >>> may > >>> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part > of > >>> how > >>> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on > >>> terror'. > >>> > >>> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a > >>> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against > his > >>> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and > >>> started > >>> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this > >>> kind > >>> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more > >>> they'll > >>> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that > they > >>> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to > >>> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. > In > >>> my > >>> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just > >>> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another > >>> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need > to > >>> before they get out of office... > >>> > >>> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? > >>> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ > >>> > >>> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it > >>> incorrect.... > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just > >>>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless > >>>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. > >>>> > >>>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's > >>>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech > >>>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with > >>>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs > >>>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which > >>>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops > >>>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would > >>>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. > >>>> > >>>> Warren > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to > the > >>> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> www.markfrancombe.com > >> www.looop.no > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > > > > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_18725_15702229.1217757543138 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

One thing they did leave out of the astronomy stuff is that the pyramids are laid out the same as Orion's belt, size and position-wise.

How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining how the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis.

I think we ought to start coming up with the next story, the story of the Aquarian. The Bull had it's story, as did the Ram, and now the Piscean...I mean, sh*t, I want to be tax-free, too..

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the link. There is a bit of stretching on the astronomy,
but it's interesting.

The three stars in Orion's belt don't EXACTLY line up with Sirius, and
they are always positioned that way, not just on December 24th. I
think that whether or not they line up with the sunrise depends on
where you are in the world, gotta check that.

Does the sun/son homonym work in any language other than English?

But it's interesting. I haven't gotten to the 9/11 stuff yet.

On 8/2/08, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, there is a lot of pre-movie graphics, etc. I guess they needed to fill
> time...but they stuff so much info in afterwards, ya wonder why they
> bothered.
>
> Glad you liked it. Definitely opened my eyes to a few things. I knew a lot
> of the 9/11 stuff, and it's not that uncommon of knowledge (at least in my
> circles), but I think people here are resigned to the govt being too big and
> powerful for them to do anything. They keep us in fear, keep us broke, and
> keep stripping our rights...but there is no one organizing.
>
> And do you mean to tell me that people in *Norway* believe in the 9/11 / US
> govt conspiracy also?
>
> Has Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" been played there (though much milder
> than is this film)?
>
> The relevance to the section on religion is that US politicians invoke the
> name of G-d to help them get elected, then do nothing close to practicing
> wholesale Christianity once they have the chance, when they get into office,
> for thousands, if not millions, of people. They use it to consolidate voters
> for them. My understanding is that the discussion of personal religious
> beliefs by European candidates for office is basically unheard of. Perhaps
> that's why this portion doesn't come across?
>
> Personally, I think the 'separation of church and state' in America has done
> more to foster its growth than it has to hold it in check.
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM, mark francombe
> <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch of
>> salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist.
>>
>> THANK YOU!
>>
>> And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and drawn
>> out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a shame,
>> ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, but
>> for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and
>> presented
>> messages.
>> Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has it
>> been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... if
>> only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)...
>> I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject
>> has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness
>> and
>> simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear!
>>
>> BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation of
>> 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in
>> this
>> depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too however,
>> can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow???
>>
>> Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening...
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying
>>> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or
>>> may
>>> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of
>>> how
>>> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on
>>> terror'.
>>>
>>> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a
>>> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his
>>> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and
>>> started
>>> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this
>>> kind
>>> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more
>>> they'll
>>> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they
>>> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to
>>> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In
>>> my
>>> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just
>>> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another
>>> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to
>>> before they get out of office...
>>>
>>> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
>>> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
>>>
>>> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it
>>> incorrect....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota
>>> <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
>>>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
>>>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this.
>>>>
>>>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
>>>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
>>>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
>>>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
>>>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
>>>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
>>>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
>>>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.
>>>>
>>>> Warren
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the
>>> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.markfrancombe.com
>> www.looop.no
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the
> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
>


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Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net




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------=_Part_18725_15702229.1217757543138-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 10:16:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B01063BF7A; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KrV9xeO0hEqhwwE0VSUeqK6bxbVJbiqLoZDnFexUqxs=; b=XYIr/4IH8w/lCgcXrepeLlP8W+VWMw2r3wf9Z76fVwCl0Kon7RlxdorL0wL9D8KgYB 8jUSAnH9t910j09oXA35gcl1Za5GPcPQv7I49PBOY4wJaRyLPLPohlWFs/bmRuQzYaB2 j7lchXJq1fkUWy3wVnpcSYuo+bNKrUcbU65oY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=YeTJpKUWuTIE6aytJtC5ktRBOlfxV1p1UULS9A0dolwLVhgZmxeP8k8lv2Z2rhfP+Z Zfo1WlzAufesZoL0h8aS7ukc7sf0zG9rW/LuMlr6ej8O5sVqbgcxctzI58R8joHrfdEv 534ze8/BHWqKLa2arGgSLBZh0WN0rh7cgQKe8= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 05:16:39 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:16:41 +0000 (UTC) On 8/3/08, Dave wrote: > One thing they did leave out of the astronomy stuff is that the pyramids are > laid out the same as Orion's belt, size and position-wise. > > How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining how > the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the The archeoastronomers didn't think the stars in Orion's belt pointed perfectly at Sirius, as shown in the diagram in the video. Why doesn't he just shown an accurate star diagram? http://www.mythicalireland.com/ancientsites/newgrange/orion-sirius.jpg It suits his purposes better to move the stars a little bit. The ancients also knew that the stars stayed in the same positions all year long, and the (almost) alignment of Orion's belt with Sirius was constant, not just in December. The facts have been BENT. It makes me wonder what else is being bent. But I still found this enlightening, I had never heard of the parallels between Jesus and these other religious figures. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 10:23:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA3E83BFE0; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4jiGmY+L+wT+VY2g0UpayzowMC//a+XMgwI/6NQrOgg=; b=acPurnsJBaCE1i237mlGgFhxyP3OJEwfDB+L/12PQTd2uFvdZRUzyGHlXlaev2RkNA 0buBcsX042eraXWLwyWmOOVRZF2YC7dYU5qyRdLoYAARFNNFQ0eBt7n7KzzqQrhMHNak OcSLuLhkWWuCRfrJwPOKyehzTVm1gqQj9euSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=cI7k7PIU1CJNKYnsoeUrPwnHzWW5iiJ9i/AcJ1O1htvr9aI6dEXkLso+37Z42jwaij 3WhxMU/Q+B+reJApi2MU+CCYwyvzge7QwJ5bRIT0sqrPFc+HAQgR2u4NvqtYuMQAxu6W Lbb4zB0iF4ukoLQih091GgnJFx/v0tXISWiko= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808030323j48107d82i2a7c6005c3d8c327@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 06:23:04 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18838_12899234.1217758984070" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:23:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_18838_12899234.1217758984070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > The archeoastronomers didn't think the stars in Orion's belt pointed > perfectly at Sirius, as shown in the diagram in the video. Why doesn't > he just shown an accurate star diagram? > > http://www.mythicalireland.com/ancientsites/newgrange/orion-sirius.jpg > It suits his purposes better to move the stars a little bit. Goo point, and while it's not up to me to defend them, I think they're just trying to get across what the astronomers perceived, and set things up so they'd be more palatable to the average viewer. > The ancients also knew that the stars stayed in the same positions all > year long, and the (almost) alignment of Orion's belt with Sirius was > constant, not just in December. The facts have been BENT. It makes me > wonder what else is being bent. But in December, they align with the rising sun. The sun does change apparent position throughout the year... There are a lot of debunking sites out there, too, and here's a response to the debunker's claims: http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeist.html > But I still found this enlightening, I had never heard of the > parallels between Jesus and these other religious figures. Which the 10 min video above explains...the suppression of this information by those with vested interests, etc... > > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_18838_12899234.1217758984070 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The archeoastronomers didn't think the stars in Orion's belt pointed
perfectly at Sirius, as shown in the diagram in the video. Why doesn't
he just shown an accurate star diagram?

http://www.mythicalireland.com/ancientsites/newgrange/orion-sirius.jpg 

It suits his purposes better to move the stars a little bit.

Goo point, and while it's not up to me to defend them, I think they're just trying to get across what the astronomers perceived, and set things up so they'd be more palatable to the average viewer.
 
The ancients also knew that the stars stayed in the same positions all
year long, and the (almost) alignment of Orion's belt with Sirius was
constant, not just in December. The facts have been BENT. It makes me
wonder what else is being bent.

But in December, they align with the rising sun. The sun does change apparent position throughout the year...

There are a lot of debunking sites out there, too, and here's a response to the debunker's claims:
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeist.html
 
But I still found this enlightening, I had never heard of the
parallels between Jesus and these other religious figures.

Which the 10 min video above explains...the suppression of this information by those with vested interests, etc...
 


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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_18838_12899234.1217758984070-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 10:29:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B5423BFE1; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wArcS1qUorF3SUqj1Mwh1Z9wjuLW4roh3w7no5k0iRk=; b=nWpec0O/qM8saFbjpXEMZITYYWIFAsCLoF9S7tzaqemGT0xis+hQTENS2NDREDZPrz 9BBFN6eJkL+vjlQX1qbd0JPOJp6430f/sq3tK/IYSY4uT/X7fv5PkXXsuW4Zq2sVlb4+ JbBKpBNRPMQbTE+vzB41AMqTY1EKtZbr/8Glk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=h9wi81xjUNbvC9ybnvz2edI9bivCBwc7cqUKLRwXVdu4+jogRbam40DrnJHa3cgxMH v2XyTWAZYYfmMZr/77uob8vVG9HtedoruViFHJcTRPnGAmwVv5Pf2iuG7IHCbzdQqUvb dFzkqjjwdFZr9vyL60TN+vaDfq+wFVkmDoP4w= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 05:29:46 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Whoah. I just got to the 9/11 part. What a bunch of crap! He lost me. There is a lot of fast editing of news reports and interviews without any indication of the context. Yeah, the planes caused EXPLOSIONS when they hit the buildings. The way it's presented implies they are all talking about intentional demolition of the buildings by the CIA or whatever. Jeez. I've only watched the first couple of minutes! An alternative view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I On 8/3/08, Mark Smart wrote: > On 8/3/08, Dave wrote: >> One thing they did leave out of the astronomy stuff is that the pyramids >> are >> laid out the same as Orion's belt, size and position-wise. >> >> How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining >> how >> the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the > > The archeoastronomers didn't think the stars in Orion's belt pointed > perfectly at Sirius, as shown in the diagram in the video. Why doesn't > he just shown an accurate star diagram? > > http://www.mythicalireland.com/ancientsites/newgrange/orion-sirius.jpg > > It suits his purposes better to move the stars a little bit. > > The ancients also knew that the stars stayed in the same positions all > year long, and the (almost) alignment of Orion's belt with Sirius was > constant, not just in December. The facts have been BENT. It makes me > wonder what else is being bent. > > But I still found this enlightening, I had never heard of the > parallels between Jesus and these other religious figures. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 10:55:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1795F3BF8A; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006801c8f557$816949a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: New LP1 live improvisation Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 03:55:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:55:46 +0000 (UTC) I concur, Saajak, this is a wonderfully creative and beautifully sensitive improvisatory session with your LP-1. I pray I can get to Antwerp next summer to hear you do it live. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 11:03:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DB1A3BF92; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009301c8f558$9f09dcd0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: An Appreciation of Andy Butler (even if it makes him blush) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:03:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <7lKQBC.A.bDF.SCZlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Andy Butler wrote: "NextLoop shouldn't cut the drums if you set LoopCopy = ti (which means "copy timing to next loop") in that case the edp midi clock should keep running. Hey Andy, someone should acknowledge you as the genius master of the EDP that you are! Not only that, but you are always consistently willing to post your knowledge with a completely altruistic vibe whenever anyone asks any question. In my life, this combination of very deep knowledge with a strong sense of community and tithing service is really rare. You are a blessing in this community, my friend. We are really lucky that you are part of us and all should know it, even if your conditioned "Norwich nod" makes you blush to receive it. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 11:05:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 714723BFF3; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=3O98Fp+S1szfPX6kwSdCigGEsIMG6lpKBmx3rzt4cOE=; b=PnH1m8CXyc1Rj6vlpdU1ysl/chd0TixMchLIzUDHkN3S2iatzszvqk0CbhLKKun/va O0uTEVjStPxjjOAODJr6LSZ5F3a3tx+yJuqoBvQUPpY2GdZ2npVRuvr/2xHTFizK3G/T BJWU4hSdo4Lhk0ZlHv1cU55jaIBJn5Jkx3Y8o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qwqS3PPncH5nhFPHCu2NjV0E8vVLuSuXpI5Qq6+/g/Y7o3PBZK7CXSXZZGiPdYStqu uQk7PuB6yZDaTMaU9mZoiwDSxXj9rxo4khT1vyVb68CVUlsgMd8xrV4A98+T6X9jmv+y Qa7+J9BPxqIuM2yLJTC+TAnk2k3+7bkt08PBA= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:05:03 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19005_29178245.1217761503568" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-2acP.A.gHF.iDZlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:05:06 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19005_29178245.1217761503568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Uh, well...building's generally don't fall straight down when planes crash into them...and where were the engines (or anything else) from the 757 that supposedly hit the pentagon? Keep watching. It all make sense when Larry (?) Silverstein comes into play. And look up the papers that were written by several physicists, etc, on how plane fuel doesn't burn hot enough to weaken the kind of steel those buildings were made from. (And how some of them were released from prestigious positions for just that) And why did building 7 fall? It was taken down intentionally. Silverstein admits this, though what he doesn't know is that setting up a building to 'pull' it takes weeks, not hours... And I looked into some of this on my own. The guy who was the CEO of the company that wrote the insurance policy on the towers (and only months earlier...and the policy paid double...when does that EVER happen) was a contributor to Bush's re-election campaign. Interesting, at least. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Mark Smart wrote: > Whoah. I just got to the 9/11 part. What a bunch of crap! He lost me. > > There is a lot of fast editing of news reports and interviews without > any indication of the context. Yeah, the planes caused EXPLOSIONS when > they hit the buildings. The way it's presented implies they are all > talking about intentional demolition of the buildings by the CIA or > whatever. Jeez. I've only watched the first couple of minutes! > > An alternative view: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I This says that they were aware that it was going to happen, and let it. This is different from the thought that it was planned and pulled off by the American govt. Keep watching zeitgeist. You'll see how it all comes together. And Penn and Teller....THAT'S what you use to refute this? That's not much to refute anything. What does that firefighter have to say? That the planes hit the towers? Ok, we know that.He doesn't refute anything. These are not disparate facts. They seam together quite well. Keep watching. And do some real research on how hot jet fuel burns in an uncontrolled manner, what temps it takes to bring down steel contructions, how many fires had burned in steel constructions before and the building's not collapsed (in SA several years ago, a hotel burned for over a day and didn't fall...), how planned implosions work, how they're setup, how they look, what they smell like (from firefighters at GZ that day), etc. Yeah, in that P&T clip they interview a guy who 'knows' why they fell...does he know why there was so much sulfur at ground zero? I've heard it's because it helps cordite cut support beams. And cut support beams can be seen in pics of ground zero immediately after the attacks. Why did they cover any and all evidence at the pentagon within hours by laying down stones all over that side of the lawn? Shouldn't it have been investigated first? Why did bush wait over 15 months to appoint a head of an investigating committee? How can anyone make a phone call (in 2001) from a plane going that fast that high up? The one call they do have recorded, the guy is trying to convince his own mother that it's him. These guys made too much money off of this...from the insurance, from the gold stored in the basement of the towers (as they were repositories), from their buddies building war materials and military bases, from the put plays on the airlines in the stock market prior to 9/11, etc. And how did this lead us into Iraq? Is anyone aware that Al Qaeda was originally setup and supplied by the CIA (to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan)? That's a known fact, not up for dispute. How is it some of the 'hijackers' are still alive?This isn't all just kooked up stuff. Penn and Teller address next to, if not simply, nothing at all. Forgive my overt passion on the subject. I've been researching this since it happened. Zeitgeist covers a lot of it in a short period of time, but there's a lot more information out there. > On 8/3/08, Mark Smart < > marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 8/3/08, Dave wrote: > >> One thing they did leave out of the astronomy stuff is that the pyramids > >> are > >> laid out the same as Orion's belt, size and position-wise. > >> > >> How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining > >> how > >> the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the > > > > The archeoastronomers didn't think the stars in Orion's belt pointed > > perfectly at Sirius, as shown in the diagram in the video. Why doesn't > > he just shown an accurate star diagram? > > > > http://www.mythicalireland.com/ancientsites/newgrange/orion-sirius.jpg > > > > It suits his purposes better to move the stars a little bit. > > > > The ancients also knew that the stars stayed in the same positions all > > year long, and the (almost) alignment of Orion's belt with Sirius was > > constant, not just in December. The facts have been BENT. It makes me > > wonder what else is being bent. > > > > But I still found this enlightening, I had never heard of the > > parallels between Jesus and these other religious figures. > > > > -- > > Mark Smart > > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > > http://www.marksmart.net > > > > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_19005_29178245.1217761503568 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Uh, well...building's generally don't fall straigh= t down when planes crash into them...and where were the engines (or anythin= g else) from the 757 that supposedly hit the pentagon? Keep watching. It al= l make sense when Larry (?) Silverstein comes into play.

And look up the papers that were written by several physicists, etc, on= how plane fuel doesn't burn hot enough to weaken the kind of steel tho= se buildings were made from. (And how some of them were released from prest= igious positions for just that) And why did building 7 fall? It was taken d= own intentionally. Silverstein admits this, though what he doesn't know= is that setting up a building to 'pull' it takes weeks, not hours.= ..

And I looked into some of this on my own. The guy who was the CEO of th= e company that wrote the insurance policy on the towers (and only months ea= rlier...and the policy paid double...when does that EVER happen) was a cont= ributor to Bush's re-election campaign. Interesting, at least.

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Mark Smart <= span dir=3D"ltr"><marksmartus@g= mail.com> wrote:
Whoah. I just got to the 9/11 part. What a bunch of crap! He lost me.

There is a lot of fast editing of news reports and interviews without
any indication of the context. Yeah, the planes caused EXPLOSIONS when
they hit the buildings. The way it's presented implies they are all
talking about intentional demolition of the buildings by the CIA or
whatever. Jeez. I've only watched the first couple of minutes!

An alternative view:

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkcrF346sS_I

This = says that they were aware that it was going to happen, and let it. This is = different from the thought that it was planned and pulled off by the Americ= an govt.

Keep watching zeitgeist. You'll see how it all comes together.
<= br>And Penn and Teller....THAT'S what you use to refute this? That'= s not much to refute anything. What does that firefighter have to say? That= the planes hit the towers? Ok, we know that.He doesn't refute anything= . These are not disparate facts. They seam together quite well. Keep watchi= ng. And do some real research on how hot jet fuel burns in an uncontrolled = manner, what temps it takes to bring down steel contructions, how many fire= s had burned in steel constructions before and the building's not colla= psed (in SA several years ago, a hotel burned for over a day and didn't= fall...), how planned implosions work, how they're setup, how they loo= k, what they smell like (from firefighters at GZ that day), etc. Yeah, in t= hat P&T clip they interview a guy who 'knows' why they fell...d= oes he know why there was so much sulfur at ground zero? I've heard it&= #39;s because it helps cordite cut support beams. And cut support beams can= be seen in pics of ground zero immediately after the attacks. Why did they= cover any and all evidence at the pentagon within hours by laying down sto= nes all over that side of the lawn? Shouldn't it have been investigated= first? Why did bush wait over 15 months to appoint a head of an investigat= ing committee? How can anyone make a phone call (in 2001) from a plane goin= g that fast that high up? The one call they do have recorded, the guy is tr= ying to convince his own mother that it's him. These guys made too much= money off of this...from the insurance, from the gold stored in the basement of the towers (as they were repositories), from their buddies building war materials and military bases, from the put plays on the airlines in the stock market prior to 9/11, etc. And how did this lead us into Iraq? Is anyone aware that Al Qaeda was originally setup and supplied by the CIA (to fight the Soviets in= Afghanistan)? That's a known fact, not up for dispute. How is it some of the 'hijackers' are sti= ll alive?This isn't all just kooked up stuff. Penn and Teller address next= to, if not simply, nothing at all.

Forgive my overt passion on the= subject. I've been researching this since it happened. Zeitgeist cover= s a lot of it in a short period of time, but there's a lot more informa= tion out there.





 
On 8/3/08, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/3/08, Dave <prog= .music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
>> One thing they did leave out of the astronomy stuff is that the py= ramids
>> are
>> laid out the same as Orion's belt, size and position-wise.
>>
>> How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're ju= st explaining
>> how
>> the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lightin= g, the
>
> The archeoastronomers didn't think the stars in Orion's belt p= ointed
> perfectly at Sirius, as shown in the diagram in the video. Why doesn&#= 39;t
> he just shown an accurate star diagram?
>
> http://www.mythicalireland.com/ancientsites/= newgrange/orion-sirius.jpg
>
> It suits his purposes better to move the stars a little bit.
>
> The ancients also knew that the stars stayed in the same positions all=
> year long, and the (almost) alignment of Orion's belt with Sirius = was
> constant, not just in December. The facts have been BENT. It makes me<= br> > wonder what else is being bent.
>
> But I still found this enlightening, I had never heard of the
> parallels between Jesus and these other religious figures.
>
> --
> Mark Smart
> http://cd= baby.com/cd/marksmart
> http://www.mark= smart.net
>


--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.= com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart= .net




--
"The Univer= se seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of = such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_19005_29178245.1217761503568-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 11:09:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D02E83BFF2; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=3BwLsv4NJd4tMMcMxDpVyTjwB2LrdpAlTpAoMp+w6UM=; b=CtUEuy5DfSD7wizWN+undfjhHNiXwS3WTldIsbntWmYHPqztmmy4upVKKWWeRmhaCi jGDVhT2ZGwYyeK9XeH5y+CmFRHK1ddF+A6od9IIR3dE0V9OyL7m1c/bHvRmUjWGfBno0 vnk5phGDPfNg8NX2c2mDGTDZC/8nh5ck6+N5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=QN/i41Zsu1DFyAvSlFMgjg3jbm4lnJiuKfZMPQZqf4Y2RPELkZEDQ/bKZPiJpxClY1 6zVyKQKsqRQE8jBQRKxyFNtcg6T1dlTfcdavD2i0Azs8+wEJfTDosObRtTraRrAPHjda ytP1pc8W/BDI4g3P4pRZbKa9TzwyWrtwKJdeU= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808030409n76f2053cvf30d0f80e2f8bcb5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:09:10 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7paxs.A.ZMF.XHZlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:09:11 +0000 (UTC) > "Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? > http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ > Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect...." I've seen those before, fascinating stuff indeed. I've never doubt all religions through history originates from the same source - but these astronomical coincidences, in part 1, are stunning. I don't see the director's point though? Do they want to turn us on to astrology? I spent some time during a couple of years researching astrology and was quite amazed by my findings, with no evident explanation the system still works! This part 1 video seems to be made for the same reasons, just lining up facts, not really leading into any conclusion. Ok, some guys looked into the sky and made up the original religion blueprints - so what? Some content of part 2 has been discussed in public over here (Sweden that is) but I've not heard somewhere else but in this video, about all this being part of "a 60 year old plan at work". Swedish public political commentators talk about it as "a mistake", when the US gov declared "war against terrorism", because doing so also destroys the fundamentals for the democratic society: every one's equal rights guaranteed. Legislation is the tool that can guarantee every individuals equal rights. A civilized society should of course fight terrorism by legislation, because terrorism is a crime, not by "gong to war" against it. "Going to war" would be to de-civilize ones country. I hear in the Swedish media that the Bush guys made a mistake by acting too quickly without consulting their advisors, but this part 2 video gives another much more scary perspective. Part 3 has patly been up here as well, not all of it in the school's history books, but I had heard of most stuff through minor progressive media channels dating all the way back to the Vietnam war days - that's when Swedish mainstream media sort of opened up (as in France and many other European countries). What surprises me is that this is not more discussed by the American public! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 11:10:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 234ED3BFEE; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=SYt7bctiClwKfqLyWFL/s5ydMJgfBPmu2MlniYCIHeS4zA46Hr7iLEYoXpkY3Ac5f+bDskvf32Ca2KvWA5PM3GR+yACH/EFcuvcz9e+4dVfQvfprr5pSOo7o1YzDX9eZCj4LAFmq+g4oxT/sRkb0rWAEgWBD89f8Eqjqr+N7HYY= ; X-YMail-OSG: qzfvbqUVM1kTGyHCCgcRHyBVvOq_Cemsr42Bk4OSnoGnSlNAu6MrwPVawAXtoUsSdQxUucH8Nr62ceIlNxoHw6AEe4rRA8Iq7l5p2Ws4zVm.UGA3nw38j9Y5WPBALUw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 In-Reply-To: <009301c8f558$9f09dcd0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> References: <009301c8f558$9f09dcd0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1063560978 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: An Appreciation of Andy Butler (even if it makes him blush) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:10:07 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:10:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1063560978 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Yup top geezer. Couldn't agree more. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 3 Aug 2008, at 12:03, Rick Walker wrote: > Andy Butler wrote: > "NextLoop shouldn't cut the drums if you set > LoopCopy = ti (which means "copy timing to next loop") > in that case the edp midi clock should keep running. > > > Hey Andy, someone should acknowledge you as the genius master of > the EDP that you are! > > Not only that, but you are always consistently willing to post > your knowledge with a completely > altruistic vibe whenever anyone asks any question. > > In my life, this combination of very deep knowledge with a strong > sense of community and tithing > service is really rare. > > You are a blessing in this community, my friend. > > We are really lucky that you are part of us and all should know > it, even if your conditioned "Norwich nod" > makes you blush to receive it. > > yours, Rick --Apple-Mail-1--1063560978 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yup top geezer. Couldn't agree more.

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 3 Aug 2008, = at 12:03, Rick Walker wrote:

Andy Butler wrote:
LoopCopy =3D ti =A0 (which means "copy timing to = next loop")
in that case the edp midi clock = should keep running.

Hey Andy, =A0 = someone should acknowledge you as the genius master of the EDP = that you are!

Not only that,=A0= but you are always consistently willing to post your knowledge = with a completely
altruistic vibe whenever anyone = asks any question.
In my life,=A0 this combination of very deep = knowledge with a strong sense of community and=A0 tithing
service is really rare.

You are a = blessing in this community, my friend.

We are really = lucky that you are part of us and all should know it,=A0 even if your conditioned = "Norwich nod"
makes you blush to receive = it.

yours, Rick=A0
=

= --Apple-Mail-1--1063560978-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 11:30:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4693B3BFF0; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4029bek738jQdQ.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> References: <4029bek738jQdQ.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:30:00 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: AW: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:30:08 +0000 (UTC) At 11:24 AM +0200 8/3/08, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > >Now this sounds great! They may also forward the info to non-federal >entities and...now if I was with the department of homeland security, I >would make it a primary goal to confiscate any laptop from someone who is >with a carmaker, computer or electronics maker etc., have the possibly >encrypted info hacked open by the NSA and then give it to "non-federal >entities" (like US carmakers, electronics makers) for a price. Think of the >commercial possibilities! Yep, that's one of the first things that immediately occurred to both my wife and myself. In an era of overall intelligence funding cuts (first, 8 years of Dems, who are naturally suspicious of the Intel community, followed by an administration who is peeved at them because that administration completely ignored what Intel told them was very likely to occur re: 9/11), and you have Intelligence organizations who are scrambling to make budgets. One of the best ways to do that is privatization, and besides: corporate spying has always paid better than government spying. And, if this is working in the best interests of US corporations (as opposed to those evil foreign corporations), it helps shore up the US economy. Isn't that all to the good? [sic] --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 11:34:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DD113BFF0; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=28OCnocpxqTjTaokzAMKTrwLOhlWoBtWjxQhGkYy3jg=; b=d5NYUl+ZjDbo63nkGKvvrUW9d3enhUwjjuoHf6vmDyNGDclo2gqnFRzzJ/KTE7k5pq IrtszUcSt2oXTBYqzaiqhxaZiHlWjLlbQKG99/JqSIW9X5oWRQERNi4p2L5m4Ro/WxgW 8SmjKCsQsDbxNsuB47iZfF2tR1BFNweqI1CQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=JxTT6+5OrUOkUR5Lwjb6aIfZoNMc1a9Ri2hktjlr5n5p2lM+51uQYNwEplhLflCKHp AwlE+PXyH5e7pId4mmMn0ULy3wPQ4DUuwgx2fF2o8QPHXKPRakwjfJoCV2SUo6+cWOHJ vWvp6LZvMKT/JayGUp9jlDVIFR9qhK4iH9rKw= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808030434k62c359c7j4e693d9114a37d20@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:34:20 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808030409n76f2053cvf30d0f80e2f8bcb5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19104_9593949.1217763260516" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808030409n76f2053cvf30d0f80e2f8bcb5@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:34:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19104_9593949.1217763260516 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I think they just want us to be aware that Christianity, while great in its tenets, is known not to be some magical way to enter some kingdom. It's wielded against us to keep us in fear, and that's wrong. Bush heard his advisers loud and clear enough, but the want to complete their pipeline is too great, and hold too much potential money for them...while the cost of American (and other) lives (and economies) is apparently minor to them. I'm doing what I can to get this out to as many people as possible. Supposedly 15m have watched the vid so far. I think we need to up that by about 1000%...keep watching, though. It gets better and better... On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > "Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? > > http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ > > > Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it > incorrect...." > > > I've seen those before, fascinating stuff indeed. I've never doubt all > religions through history originates from the same source - but these > astronomical coincidences, in part 1, are stunning. I don't see the > director's point though? Do they want to turn us on to astrology? I > spent some time during a couple of years researching astrology and was > quite amazed by my findings, with no evident explanation the system > still works! This part 1 video seems to be made for the same reasons, > just lining up facts, not really leading into any conclusion. Ok, some > guys looked into the sky and made up the original religion blueprints > - so what? Some content of part 2 has been discussed in public over > here (Sweden that is) but I've not heard somewhere else but in this > video, about all this being part of "a 60 year old plan at work". > Swedish public political commentators talk about it as "a mistake", > when the US gov declared "war against terrorism", because doing so > also destroys the fundamentals for the democratic society: every one's > equal rights guaranteed. Legislation is the tool that can guarantee > every individuals equal rights. A civilized society should of course > fight terrorism by legislation, because terrorism is a crime, not by > "gong to war" against it. "Going to war" would be to de-civilize ones > country. I hear in the Swedish media that the Bush guys made a mistake > by acting too quickly without consulting their advisors, but this part > 2 video gives another much more scary perspective. Part 3 has patly > been up here as well, not all of it in the school's history books, > but I had heard of most stuff through minor progressive media channels > dating all the way back to the Vietnam war days - that's when Swedish > mainstream media sort of opened up (as in France and many other > European countries). > > What surprises me is that this is not more discussed by the American > public! > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_19104_9593949.1217763260516 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I think they just want us to be aware that Christianity, while great in its tenets, is known not to be some magical way to enter some kingdom. It's wielded against us to keep us in fear, and that's wrong.

Bush heard his advisers loud and clear enough, but the want to complete their pipeline is too great, and hold too much potential money for them...while the cost of American (and other) lives (and economies) is apparently minor to them.

I'm doing what I can to get this out to as many people as possible. Supposedly 15m have watched the vid so far. I think we need to up that by about 1000%...keep watching, though. It gets better and better...

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect...."


I've seen those before, fascinating stuff indeed. I've never doubt all
religions through history originates from the same source - but these
astronomical coincidences, in part 1, are stunning. I don't see the
director's point though? Do they want to turn us on to astrology? I
spent some time during a couple of years researching astrology and was
quite amazed by my findings, with no evident explanation the system
still works! This part 1 video seems to be made for the same reasons,
just lining up facts, not really leading into any conclusion. Ok, some
guys looked into the sky and made up the original religion  blueprints
- so what? Some content of part 2 has been discussed in public over
here (Sweden that is) but I've not heard somewhere else but in this
video, about all this being part of "a 60 year old plan at work".
Swedish public political commentators talk about it as "a mistake",
when the US gov declared "war against terrorism", because doing so
also destroys the fundamentals for the democratic society: every one's
equal rights guaranteed. Legislation is the tool that can guarantee
every individuals equal rights. A civilized society should of course
fight terrorism by legislation, because terrorism is a crime, not by
"gong to war" against it. "Going to war" would be to de-civilize ones
country. I hear in the Swedish media that the Bush guys made a mistake
by acting too quickly without consulting their advisors, but this part
2 video gives another much more scary perspective. Part 3 has patly
been up here as well, not all of it in the  school's history books,
but I had heard of most stuff through minor progressive media channels
dating all the way back to the Vietnam war days - that's when Swedish
mainstream media sort of opened up (as in France and many other
European countries).

What surprises me is that this is not more discussed by the American public!

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
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------=_Part_19104_9593949.1217763260516-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 12:30:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63C903BFF0; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=h6kDoo4B2LRMTeklKbkn+H5x3uKKrrjg4ntHOervC8U=; b=TwfruF7XyGsNUDPuw5Cd93D2OUrk4gLNxScQJFnNusz8lgbIcBITjn6qSosSBCdtNL bGFZvPgzQhY7Ws2tsJkpkEPcUt6QSumga+g+1Pqw8xfYdANrf6nU3O299efD0AdApsrL L7jtYDP3Il5Z7+XiZd80FedJvrs4r/9Qdg/BI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=cTi5aGowO1uaj9zYHNiEF4p2RdBA3iRvRLvLxW+2jbf0FwUvFuQsv3Nsn+qk1cic6J 6BvoEGD4t++S+NmFgEjcsUqmv0kt4UIcxequpEsp5l+Z0NPMnbgjGBHPNR2gB4+yHAzm lbX7i/dunaNqu6iXdfOnpRZdx1D2QNenhD4do= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808030530qae051fbw54f54ec10141413e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:30:45 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19009_24221489.1217766645846" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 31bef1b35f7cd956 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:30:47 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19009_24221489.1217766645846 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > The way it's presented implies they are all > talking about intentional demolition of the buildings by the CIA or > whatever. Jeez. I've only watched the first couple of minutes! Yes that IS what he is suggesting, and the overwhelming evidence to support this is unbelieveable, I think it makes tatla sense, when added to the information from Part 3 on the international bankers, oh lets point fingers David Rockafeller. I DO have a HUGE however about this theory... Its allvery well coming up with evidence to say that it WASNT Bin Laden... AND that Bin Laded and Bush are in on somthing... quite plausable... BUT no one (that I have read so far) has come up with an explanation as to HOW they planted god knows how many tons of explosing over three buildings, with miles of cabling electronics for sequencing the explosions and engineers... etc... Dont you think someone of the many thousand that worked in these buildings might have seen something??? M ------=_Part_19009_24221489.1217766645846 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:
The way it's presented implies they are all
talking about intentional demolition of the buildings by the CIA or
whatever. Jeez. I've only watched the first couple of minutes!

Yes that IS what he is suggesting, and  the overwhelming evidence to support this is unbelieveable, I think it makes tatla sense, when added to the information from Part 3 on the international bankers, oh lets point fingers David Rockafeller.

I DO have a HUGE however about this theory... Its allvery well coming up with evidence to say that it WASNT Bin Laden... AND that Bin Laded and Bush are in on somthing... quite plausable... BUT no one (that I have read so far) has come up with an explanation as to HOW they planted god knows how many tons of explosing over three buildings, with miles of cabling electronics for sequencing the explosions and engineers... etc... Dont you think someone of the many thousand that worked in these buildings might have seen something???

M

------=_Part_19009_24221489.1217766645846-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 12:48:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31AD73BFEC; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808021710m1285a538s7d80c4fa386e747d@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> <5B183E97-832A-4BA0-9CF2-928E13A95978@zoekeating.com> <1F653C97633C408C81119F193F0586C0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0808021710m1285a538s7d80c4fa386e747d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:48:13 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Completely OT: Travel Frequency (was Re: In praise of the FCB1010) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:48:23 +0000 (UTC) At 2:10 AM +0200 8/3/08, mark francombe wrote: >2-3 times a quarter??????? Did you say ONLY???? Well, IIRC, Kris works for a company that's a major player in the Tech Industry. So I think he's probably fairly lucky that he only travels that much. When I worked in that same sector, it was fairly standard to hop a plane 2-3 times a *week*. I was fortunate in that I was management, and they normally wanted me to stay fairly stationary (hard to hit a moving target, and all that). Granted, most of these excursions were day-trips (Chi to Cinci and back on Monday, round-trip to Minneapolis for Tuesday, and KCMO on Thursday after that, for instance). But many of the guys who worked for me would routinely be in a different city every day of the week. Heck, one of my employees even got a special award from Northwest Airlines a while back for being one of their top three flyers for that calendar year. Been a couple years since I chucked that lifestyle, though. I wonder if any significant changes have occurred due to increasing travel costs.... --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 13:20:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92CDE3BFF4; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <980883C387314AD79DD9923259E9FA4E@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Beginning of the BEMF3 Videos Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:20:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0094_01C8F539.5DB875D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:20:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C8F539.5DB875D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just got this year's Boise Experimental Music Festival videos on DVD = and I'm starting to render them for the web. Here are a few of me playing with others: Kribophoric (Krispen Hartung & Robert Sterling) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D2521007324347368288&hl=3Den Krispen Hartung (guitar), Brian McFadin (sax/bass clarinet, etc), and = Jared Hallock (percussion, etc) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-6446774432512685442 Both of these are with the mini jazz guitar and my max/msp system. Kris p.s. Rainer, yes, I can send you some data DVDs now! :) ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C8F539.5DB875D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just got this year's Boise Experimental Music Festival videos on DVD and I'm = starting to=20 render them for the web.
 
Here are a few of me playing with=20 others:
 
Kribophoric (Krispen Hartung = & Robert=20 Sterling)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D2521007324347368288&a= mp;hl=3Den
 
Krispen Hartung (guitar), Brian = McFadin=20 (sax/bass clarinet, etc), and Jared Hallock (percussion,=20 etc)
h= ttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-6446774432512685442<= /DIV>
 
Both of these are with the mini jazz = guitar and my=20 max/msp system.
 
Kris
 
p.s. Rainer, yes, I can send you = some data=20 DVDs now!  :)
------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C8F539.5DB875D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 13:22:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F0323BFF8; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1CAC20B07F064D2F9DCC489C3D74A335@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> <5B183E97-832A-4BA0-9CF2-928E13A95978@zoekeating.com> <1F653C97633C408C81119F193F0586C0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0808021710m1285a538s7d80c4fa386e747d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Completely OT: Travel Frequency (was Re: In praise of the FCB1010) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:22:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Yup. I'm in HR. We don't travel a lot, and most of us work virtually. It's nice. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > At 2:10 AM +0200 8/3/08, mark francombe wrote: >>2-3 times a quarter??????? Did you say ONLY???? > > Well, IIRC, Kris works for a company that's a major player in the Tech > Industry. So I think he's probably fairly lucky that he only travels that > much. When I worked in that same sector, it was fairly standard to hop a > plane 2-3 times a *week*. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 13:45:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBC633BFF8; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:45:04 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=e68YEpMg8GBGvr0gGDbZrkFsKAMbmcD/iuCuJYH6a++aXewHtWKxbqYSoDfDUjbOkS0KHYOIppvIWTFld3gWJieMAI+0ZCUhG4Ai0W25jQi2V4Ihy9Q5oDZgj7Yte4wlEqXpcgHqaLwJAswwYpPypaBrFqmAUGDyWMxp9dy3SDI=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:38:24 +0000 (GMT) From: rune fagereng Reply-To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Subject: Kaisers article - How I Lost 150 Ibs. thanks to Max/MSP! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5B183E97-832A-4BA0-9CF2-928E13A95978@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <836401.71621.qm@web26204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! Krispen Hartung wrote: Good grief. When are you going to go all laptop, Zo= e?Check out Jeff Kaiser's article "How I lost 150 lbs. thanks to Max/MSP!" http://www.jeffkaiser.com/papers/spark_2007.pdf I`ve just read Kaiser article. This is very interesting. I would like to un= derstand more on this and relating topics. So I aks; 1. what about the sound when one goes from pedals to software (analog v.s d= igital sound)?=20 -Are the result of this (sound) also related to the instument one plays?=20 -Will the guitar sound as good going digital=20 2. How/why is it better or easier to work with knobs on the software compar= ed to the pedals? Whats really the differents? =20 -What does it mean? =20 3. What does this changes means for the audience? Is the movement made by t= he player in the digital domain as realistic regarding the relationship sou= nd-movement that people are used to with acoustic instrument? 4.How come that still many well known musicians still uses hardware? (Hasse= l - Molvaer - Bugge - Aarset) =20 Are there more articles like Kaisers on topics like this?=20 Best regards Rune F. Norway =0A=0A=0A _________________________________________________________=0A= Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og=0Anotisblokk. = http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 14:38:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E9D63BFFA; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=C5p5uQCqbjgNLsWeP49zi9hSXetP7yQBRM7GATN11CPyE6THoW1t4NnZ3P5sinn/kvzMUcvC6CbDsFvJp5zpMq9vab318cMKBJ09EZu59ZcWaviZ7Ig57gETIk6+5t+l50qprStM4FrA5HoZAtdYnNjqCgXKbBuGVWAtdhySELw=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:38:20 +0000 (GMT) From: rune fagereng Reply-To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Subject: Kaisers playing - old rig v.s new rig To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <479010.92676.qm@web26202.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I would like to see or study a live gig - best of all the same tune - maybe= with the same player - playing it with hardware one time and then with sof= tware. It would have been nice to observe the differens in sound - movement= - performance - working rutines and the audiences respons to all this. Kaiser or anyone - do you have videos to cover this?=20 Or maybe there already are some studies on this things?=20 Best regards Rune F. Norway =0A=0A=0A _______________________________= __________________________=0AAlt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartote= k, kalender og=0Anotisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 14:54:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D72B3BFFD; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QYfdMFMEax31j0p4NHgyzE0Sg56rmeQB4vYD8lS9XFA=; b=H45Es9nWKWGc4oh7lbz4DogMpaEtbHHpeZplGkR5WuhBKHOsFlL97Sv+f8f9+4jDDx srlikgjRElm6fkhRPrb0hPoMADDnzVk+1iijvLbxZhHvPB6XMG5c+x4t9tsjBkHDkmZj oPTW/hWSFymiK7ORDvJkKjjo0viB72NtWhDJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=OuLkkL/jYZaP7eFa+wxGQbyokuiSClklqjL5Zi5KYOAyTVmC+w5DwCnP0nJHZVLAhb mLR9CEaFGeCow+0yNiS6T++xHwrdgzEkeLGo/7Anv/7Tid1p9N3QJXTQPEPzQ5cmVh1F d+nw3r4B895Ku0gNCehQvm4YsywCzC0/C82lQ= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:54:45 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I don't have immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way this video is put together and to conspiracy theories in general is EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me seems utterly outrageous. A huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes into a building creating a fire that burns above 2000 degrees F (easily hot enough to soften steel...I used to work in a steel mill, and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften it up for easy milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's hard for me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in a building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be the correct one (Occam's Razor). But I will watch some more and do some more reading. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 14:57:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AA663BFFF; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gCuc/AgXBLAma0zaEdWcrg0rDa1jAguaErmI8i6g1Og=; b=qWe+mvY8uQLroat3zmZJd4DXfwvt0OnR9xlHdf2wH4H6DnMbpCrtX62EkL4m/ukrT5 CjtNjG14TbEEtusQjpC+IcxAIfxO5gm1yP3Gcu4ka37z/WQlr8vgnC3uFWAneENccCY3 YK0IDHDghaXUmuMLVbiKHfKQYb7CKAs7ZRv4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HYSX5/cY+zljnwOaQ6HbHu42oxFgL7eqMDLvwRwoEqOc2fexIId2CN0qs93B8Ttyjc Ao8MkV99yM2Ut/VYPvOu47tyWAV4JP6BBCYswqBJ7Dti+ANBhImXoJzVkiDUaeDHgbsh xstoVv2PcWA6uKxidTQ0hjDjSNp0YkbXdLO44= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:57:01 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808030530qae051fbw54f54ec10141413e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808030530qae051fbw54f54ec10141413e@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Penn and Teller are certainly not alone in disputing conspiracy theories: http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/refute.htm -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 15:00:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 755063C004; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Cg5qfmMbfLdzN+Yu70IRXf0OO00nbTsB+aQsgktsQ3NL8odVbq3Iuops5o1gCpAlvmD0OjONM/NYVOfVUt8v4VmketnrogAkbS5W1AYgLcIVR09csK5yf20+hRS16xFAfwRx54oA1aJ09gZ4TxmAO7L0T13w+8gT9EHmDfF2/d0=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:00:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: An Appreciation of Andy Butler (even if it makes him blush) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <009301c8f558$9f09dcd0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <985244.21207.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8RP77C.A.xaB.OgclIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:00:30 +0000 (UTC) I second that! ive learned a lot fora Andys deep knowledge of the EDP and although i havent met him personally i think hes cool and his music rocks! cheers Andy Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Rick Walker wrote: > From: Rick Walker > Subject: An Appreciation of Andy Butler (even if it makes him blush) > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 4:03 AM > Andy Butler wrote: > "NextLoop shouldn't cut the drums if you set > LoopCopy = ti (which means "copy timing to next > loop") > in that case the edp midi clock should keep running. > > > Hey Andy, someone should acknowledge you as the genius > master of the EDP > that you are! > > Not only that, but you are always consistently willing to > post your > knowledge with a completely > altruistic vibe whenever anyone asks any question. > > In my life, this combination of very deep knowledge with a > strong sense of > community and tithing > service is really rare. > > You are a blessing in this community, my friend. > > We are really lucky that you are part of us and all should > know it, even if > your conditioned "Norwich nod" > makes you blush to receive it. > > yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 15:02:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31B593C009; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dYz849F5_6wA:10 a=MhWjL4uRlvEA:10 a=ePC-paLKAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=H7WaPPUXHRYBu4CxOmAA:9 a=nu0hG-k-i5CZkvs77ccA:7 a=fZeJxOAHB96tIt_M3_guZPsDzUsA:4 a=ZON7V92nu88A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8FA45266-6A0E-4669-B7CA-807BF36AD5A7@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:02:52 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Building 7 is the thing that gets me. It fell straight down after a small fire burned for 5 hours in one corner. Impossible. Plus, a bunch of really experienced pilots tried to hit the wtc in a flight simulator under the same conditions and couldn't do it. There's a ton of curiosities that don't make sense. Now I don't think the bush guys could possibly be responsible. One reason, it worked. But I do think it's possible that they knew about it and let it happen in an effort to facilitate their ambitions. I know, I'm crazy. I realize that if any of this is true, we are WAY more fucked then we thought possible. On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Mark Smart wrote: > Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I > don't have immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way > this video is put together and to conspiracy theories in general is > EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me > seems utterly outrageous. A huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes > into a building creating a fire that burns above 2000 degrees F > (easily hot enough to soften steel...I used to work in a steel mill, > and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften it up for easy > milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's hard for > me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in a > building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be > the correct one (Occam's Razor). > > But I will watch some more and do some more reading. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 15:08:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 653BF3C00E; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dYz849F5_6wA:10 a=MhWjL4uRlvEA:10 a=BredZuKYAAAA:8 a=fZUI2XJme2K_HgT0HrwA:9 a=TZJ_AEOtYoAfJDv3ankA:7 a=kuI8GR8wqlBjD1SBjFuj5dyFzAQA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=y9wHXqWc1MK8zpVyB-YA:9 a=ajxOiZtbFaxqI3bBvgQA:7 a=OR7ejcELbRDMaESFxkiuX_LcG_AA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808030530qae051fbw54f54ec10141413e@mail.gmail.com> References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808030530qae051fbw54f54ec10141413e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1049259018 Message-Id: <43F22B04-CF55-4388-972D-0F9335CC1E89@comcast.net> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:08:29 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:08:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1049259018 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed This is the website that got me. Admittedly, Its an extremely difficult concept to get your head around. http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/ On Aug 3, 2008, at 8:30 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Mark Smart > wrote: > The way it's presented implies they are all > talking about intentional demolition of the buildings by the CIA or > whatever. Jeez. I've only watched the first couple of minutes! > > Yes that IS what he is suggesting, and the overwhelming evidence > to support this is unbelieveable, I think it makes tatla sense, > when added to the information from Part 3 on the international > bankers, oh lets point fingers David Rockafeller. > > I DO have a HUGE however about this theory... Its allvery well > coming up with evidence to say that it WASNT Bin Laden... AND that > Bin Laded and Bush are in on somthing... quite plausable... BUT no > one (that I have read so far) has come up with an explanation as to > HOW they planted god knows how many tons of explosing over three > buildings, with miles of cabling electronics for sequencing the > explosions and engineers... etc... Dont you think someone of the > many thousand that worked in these buildings might have seen > something??? > > M > --Apple-Mail-1--1049259018 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is the website that got me.=A0Admittedly, Its = an=A0extremely=A0difficult concept to get your head = around.=A0



On Aug 3, 2008, at 8:30 AM, = mark francombe wrote:



On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at = 12:29 PM, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> = wrote:
The way it's presented implies they are all
talking about = intentional demolition of the buildings by the CIA or
whatever. = Jeez. I've only watched the first couple of = minutes!

Yes that IS what he is suggesting, and=A0 = the overwhelming evidence to support this is unbelieveable, I think it = makes tatla sense, when added to the information from Part 3 on the = international bankers, oh lets point fingers David Rockafeller.
=
I DO have a HUGE however about this theory... Its allvery well = coming up with evidence to say that it WASNT Bin Laden... AND that Bin = Laded and Bush are in on somthing... quite plausable... BUT no one (that = I have read so far) has come up with an explanation as to HOW they = planted god knows how many tons of explosing over three buildings, with = miles of cabling electronics for sequencing the explosions and = engineers... etc... Dont you think someone of the many thousand that = worked in these buildings might have seen something???
=
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eBay From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 15:27:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3612F3C00C; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:27:03 EDT Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1217777223" X-Mailer: Unknown sub 34 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:27:10 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1217777223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All due respect, what does this have to do with music, looping or anything else relevant to this group? Having lived through 9/11, in Manhattan, and watched the buildings as the north tower burned and the south tower was hit, having had friends who died, friends who had friends who died, clients who had large parts of their work force decimated, and watched people moving about the City with that death soot all over them, in a daze, I find this whole thing offensive. Criticize Bush & Company for being clueless, or worse, but don't give them credit for coming up with this elaborate, insane plan to kill their own people to justify some political agenda. I've stayed out of this until now but I have to wonder, do you conspiracy folk realize how insane this sounds? Islamic fanatics with a political and economic desire to take over the planet, "get back" at the West and impose their version of reality on the rest of the world did this. Bush, and the government of the United States, for all of the other issues you might rightly point to, did not do this. For pete's sake, would you please get back to the things that bring us together and stop this divisive discussion? With all due respect, Harry Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:55:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marksmartus@gmail.com writes: Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I don't have immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way this video is put together and to conspiracy theories in general is EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me seems utterly outrageous. A huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes into a building creating a fire that burns above 2000 degrees F (easily hot enough to soften steel...I used to work in a steel mill, and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften it up for easy milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's hard for me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in a building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be the correct one (Occam's Razor). But I will watch some more and do some more reading. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) -------------------------------1217777223 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All due respect, what does this have to do with music, looping or anyth= ing=20 else relevant to this group?  Having lived through 9/11, in Manhattan,=20= and=20 watched the buildings as the north tower burned and the south tower was hit,= =20 having had friends who died, friends who had friends who died, clients who h= ad=20 large parts of their work force decimated, and watched people moving ab= out=20 the City with that death soot all over them, in a daze, I find this whole th= ing=20 offensive.  Criticize Bush & Company for being clueless, or worse,=20= but=20 don't give them credit for coming up with this elaborate, insane plan to kil= l=20 their own people to justify some political agenda.  I've stayed out of=20= this=20 until now but I have to wonder, do you conspiracy folk realize how insane th= is=20 sounds?  Islamic fanatics with a political and economic desire to take=20= over=20 the planet, "get back" at the West and impose their version of reality=20= on=20 the rest of the world did this.  Bush, and the government of the United= =20 States, for all of the other issues you might rightly point to, did not do=20 this.  For pete's sake, would you please get back to the things that br= ing=20 us together and stop this divisive discussion?
 
With all due respect,
 
Harry
 
Harry=20 Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th=20 Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212) 989-2908=20
 
In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:55:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 marksmartus@gmail.com writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Well, I=20 haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I
don't hav= e=20 immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way
this video is p= ut=20 together and to conspiracy theories in general is
EXTREME SKEPTICISM. T= he=20 WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me
seems utterly outrageous. A=20= huge=20 plane filled with jet fuel crashes
into a building creating a fire that= =20 burns above 2000 degrees F
(easily hot enough to soften steel...I used=20= to=20 work in a steel mill,
and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften i= t up=20 for easy
milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's=20= hard=20 for
me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in=20 a
building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to=20 be
the correct one (Occam's Razor).

But I will watch some more a= nd=20 do some more reading.

--
Mark=20 Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
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Regards, William Colgate II -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- WebMax! - Internet Crna Gora Service From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 17:36:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 013883BFFC; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=x1Yd0FvnHPkpHosh17CjALVGDO3qQQ8HxDGM6uP6wQA=; b=c46LtzxTr5yVYdNRfrE3GjD9PRC9O+3IfmBC13FbvuuHmk1MwP9HBshEeE9H3bDEDO QIdv+f1d3SQOhZTTrX6v42aTcY6/7X5DEBwcx/7xXOeppHA6xcDcngel4aRqKgtn6ODd ltfpedyZ54jTjkjT+hViS66cho4rzgoDaP5IM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=SF1M1JgvHA7Vmibc0t1i+PzhbnyYavZDK5WRGBNP4AvkZMepmzMNTnGXW5N8rmKoJp 2v3cx8hJrr/X8ZkTOltjYeMp4sfsT96PTufixKgDy53mMUCnaf+Qjvq+zUNegOsKDEIR H0BKZSqSEK5O6g++dUFaBuq+Bzb+FDZ4Kfjgs= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:36:18 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: Echoplex/ FCB1010 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26674_9491884.1217784979044" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:36:24 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26674_9491884.1217784979044 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yes just the basic functions is what i need to do for an upcoming show. I cant thank all of you guys on the list enough. This list has literally saved myself a lot of embarrassment!!! ------=_Part_26674_9491884.1217784979044 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Yes just the basic functions is what i need to do for an upcoming show. I cant thank all of you guys on the list enough. This list has literally saved myself a lot of embarrassment!!!
------=_Part_26674_9491884.1217784979044-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 17:50:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC7A13C002; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=ac+9DGdouk5y5RnjQI+7B4zIMOd7jUh1uwU/ScyGhMc=; b=RgeRfC3c1TZF+Hb6rkk7OZ33U7TQQqdcPDmJR106/+0fi4dAwOp0SAbIPgI5hqIG8y SVLSyESCU8+JenJ3Ajl5/bxRix8EbfmOHPRv8ZDN58y99F7IqxqoCf+UzDpo4UnCd5qH f2ieIVQ6mgU5oed/Jb4zqOiyNBWqBb59VpoXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dzcsZOVCyTMslhbIyI49wcBXYQB2uRTKTagv2f6dN63QsunotVMpulqtJ5bmscqyHe vhrKU3krJhhpgCZJSbYyOisAB+8CEqgtjxfyrorynxHZTS33g+Ssjo5D654ABe36IApY gKXsYEqlOXmORkuTOkxZrhNvjG64W2PnjmkwA= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:50:09 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26751_32525587.1217785809131" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:50:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26751_32525587.1217785809131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I am synced out to a drum machine and so when i do a phrase then press the 2nd record the drums come in with me but if i loop a long phrase it makes the tempo REALLY SLOW. How can i loop more than a one bar phrase without the ehoplex trying to sync at a tempo like twenty do i HAVE to set the one bar and then multiply? Or is it all in my Qauntize/8thscycle setting? ------=_Part_26751_32525587.1217785809131 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I am synced out to a drum machine and so when i do a phrase then press the 2nd record the drums come in with me but if i loop a long phrase it makes the tempo REALLY SLOW. How can i loop more than a one bar phrase without the ehoplex trying to sync at a tempo like twenty do i HAVE to set the one bar and then multiply? Or is it all in my Qauntize/8thscycle setting?
------=_Part_26751_32525587.1217785809131-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 17:59:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF7D53C005; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=3Ur1PF4r2idokQaTVTvnh2HVceF45yAysLp+n3kZvik=; b=MUFbTWZwG+XNi/aGfM9e6NwYuAbnhD6ExAASUyOGhPXRU4bfTQUHocV3Y01/5SYFDs Ug83ZFpcZpRmsvaQGu1k1MQhr6EYOCdNbmhE+AmOqVIo6FxSPFpQp27F7M5xib7cApfg Vg/TsOSbBBeOsPtTC7x33z23w7QhbbRkcfUs0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=KqIrBuUdQtV3r2Nc7uwp9dXJaK3+Mmt4wjz38+hLggD38zQyNBt7/IUDldxhYs8+PD wbfgzdUDNVkbzYPiGUV24YFBKjAhH5f6PpY+xrJYDSaiOiXYNJyNLJcUmBlJrYjwkh0m HL5G8f/AVxX8/fcQv7Zn9GVrIK7rrcZLGnIiA= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808031059hef7111bhc631814c90ed0e78@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:59:25 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20744_3425641.1217786365939" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: df158fdc6119e8c2 Resent-Message-ID: <_BQHhC.A.PEF._HflIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:59:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_20744_3425641.1217786365939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I hate it when people start a rant with "with all due respect..." Firstly I dont believe that Dave or Chris or I have actually said that we believe totally in the information that came out of us watching this film (did you watch it Harry?) OH no we all had questions...Sure I dont believe the three towers were bombed, or that the Pentagon plane "evaporated"... do you think Im completely stupid... BUT... that is exactly the point, There are so many holes in the accepted story of what happened on 911, that fuck I think we all have a duty to try to find out, or at least make a noise about it and ask those questions. It is exactly BECAUSE of people like you,people who were there, people who were truly personally affected by it that we dont want to just let it lie. I have a great friend that MOVED back to Norway from NY (a close up witness, was covered in the "Death Dust" (as you melodramatically called it, Fox News perhaps?) ) after it happened because he said he could NOT talk rationally about what MAY have caused it, or what COULD have happened, because feeling was running so high in NYC. Damn it, you just cant bump thru life accepting all you read, watch or hear, you HAVE to be able to think for your self AND ask questions. So much has been done to YOUR freedom, in the name of "The fight against terror" that could and would never have happened if 911 had not... We in Europe talk about it constantly, everyday. EVERYONE I KNOW talk in the pub about the relationship Prescott Bush had to the Nazis, the way Bush cheated his way into office, and the way the American media is wholly owned by Murdoch. Its common knowledge for us... is it common knowledge for the majority of the US people? I dont think so.. As for not being on topic for this list? Fuck that... Im chatting here with my tuned in musician friends about things that matter... often musicians are right! m On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM, wrote: > All due respect, what does this have to do with music, looping or > anything else relevant to this group? Having lived through 9/11, in > Manhattan, and watched the buildings as the north tower burned and the south > tower was hit, having had friends who died, friends who had friends who > died, clients who had large parts of their work force decimated, and watched > people moving about the City with that death soot all over them, in a daze, > I find this whole thing offensive. Criticize Bush & Company for being > clueless, or worse, but don't give them credit for coming up with this > elaborate, insane plan to kill their own people to justify some political > agenda. I've stayed out of this until now but I have to wonder, do you > conspiracy folk realize how insane this sounds? Islamic fanatics with a > political and economic desire to take over the planet, "get back" at the > West and impose their version of reality on the rest of the world did this. > Bush, and the government of the United States, for all of the other issues > you might rightly point to, did not do this. For pete's sake, would you > please get back to the things that bring us together and stop this divisive > discussion? > > With all due respect, > > Harry > > Harry Weinberg, Esq. > Law Offices of Harry Weinberg > 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor > New York, N.Y. 10013 > (212) 989-2908 > In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:55:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > marksmartus@gmail.com writes: > > Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I > don't have immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way > this video is put together and to conspiracy theories in general is > EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me > seems utterly outrageous. A huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes > into a building creating a fire that burns above 2000 degrees F > (easily hot enough to soften steel...I used to work in a steel mill, > and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften it up for easy > milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's hard for > me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in a > building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be > the correct one (Occam's Razor). > > But I will watch some more and do some more reading. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews > on AOL Autos > . > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_20744_3425641.1217786365939 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I hate it when people start a rant with "with all due respect..."
Firstly I dont believe that Dave or Chris or I have actually said that we believe totally in the information that came out of us watching this film (did you watch it Harry?) OH no we all had questions...Sure I dont believe the three towers were bombed, or that the Pentagon plane "evaporated"... do you think Im completely stupid...
BUT... that is exactly the point, There are so many holes in the accepted story of what happened on 911, that fuck I think we all have a duty to try to find out, or at least make a noise about it and ask those questions.
It is exactly BECAUSE of people like you,people who were there,  people who were truly personally affected by it that we dont want to just let it lie.
 I have a great friend that MOVED back to Norway from NY (a close up witness, was covered in the "Death Dust" (as you melodramatically called it, Fox News perhaps?) ) after it happened because he said he could NOT talk rationally about what MAY have caused it, or what COULD have happened, because feeling was running so high in NYC.
Damn it, you just cant bump thru life accepting all you read, watch or hear, you HAVE to be able to think for your self AND ask questions. So much has been done to YOUR freedom, in the name of "The fight against terror" that could and would never have happened if 911 had not... We in Europe talk about it constantly, everyday. EVERYONE I KNOW talk in the pub about the relationship Prescott Bush had to the Nazis, the way Bush cheated his way into office, and the way the American media is wholly owned by Murdoch. Its common knowledge for us... is it common knowledge for the majority of the US people? I dont think so..

As for not being on topic for this list? Fuck that... Im chatting here with my tuned in musician friends about things that matter... often musicians are right!


m




On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM, <HarryEsq@aol.com> wrote:
All due respect, what does this have to do with music, looping or anything else relevant to this group?  Having lived through 9/11, in Manhattan, and watched the buildings as the north tower burned and the south tower was hit, having had friends who died, friends who had friends who died, clients who had large parts of their work force decimated, and watched people moving about the City with that death soot all over them, in a daze, I find this whole thing offensive.  Criticize Bush & Company for being clueless, or worse, but don't give them credit for coming up with this elaborate, insane plan to kill their own people to justify some political agenda.  I've stayed out of this until now but I have to wonder, do you conspiracy folk realize how insane this sounds?  Islamic fanatics with a political and economic desire to take over the planet, "get back" at the West and impose their version of reality on the rest of the world did this.  Bush, and the government of the United States, for all of the other issues you might rightly point to, did not do this.  For pete's sake, would you please get back to the things that bring us together and stop this divisive discussion?
 
With all due respect,
 
Harry
 
Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212) 989-2908
 
In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:55:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marksmartus@gmail.com writes:
Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I
don't have immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way
this video is put together and to conspiracy theories in general is
EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me
seems utterly outrageous. A huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes
into a building creating a fire that burns above 2000 degrees F
(easily hot enough to soften steel...I used to work in a steel mill,
and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften it up for easy
milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's hard for
me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in a
building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be
the correct one (Occam's Razor).

But I will watch some more and do some more reading.

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http://www.marksmart.net




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------=_Part_20744_3425641.1217786365939-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 18:29:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07CC63C004; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 414 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:29:14 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ZDJLWRUakBs5p/0pbnmFa3hiuZi+OFbdpOEeiDbPlje49aQnH5yATVWqCeDjcBOs; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <63668D78-32CA-4FF3-A2CB-4B34C64D3936@earthlink.net> From: sheila olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808031059hef7111bhc631814c90ed0e78@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:22:19 -0700 References: <9ab0c76f0808031059hef7111bhc631814c90ed0e78@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd48fc063284dcb293ea7aaf42ad344d6c2f7c7233ee4b332ceb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.128.223 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Sites of interst: 911 http://www.ae911truth.org/ http://www.911truth.org/ Astro-Theology & other http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/index.html Never stop asking questions. Respectfully, joe cavaleri From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 18:32:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F5E43C009; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hUhS1PORb7iK4wL7eOPI3L9VAhp6cManlZI8dutOS5OpeNiZo68m/QzECrEkI/sC; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: sheila olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808031059hef7111bhc631814c90ed0e78@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1037025807 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:32:22 -0700 References: <9ab0c76f0808031059hef7111bhc631814c90ed0e78@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd48fc063284dcb293ea7f3afa3513a2edb007c87288fcf778e7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.128.223 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:32:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1037025807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry....I didn't provide a link to the Jordan Maxwell home page. http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/documents/index.html Sites of interst: 911 http://www.ae911truth.org/ http://www.911truth.org/ Astro-Theology & other http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/index.html Never stop asking questions. Respectfully, joe cavaleri --Apple-Mail-1--1037025807 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.jord= anmaxwell.com/documents/index.html

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Sites of interst:

911 =       http://www.ae911truth.org/
= = = = = = = http://www.911truth.org/


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Astro-Theology & other     http://www.jorda= nmaxwell.com/articles/index.html


Never = stop asking questions.


= Respectfully,

       &nbs= p;         joe = cavaleri


= --Apple-Mail-1--1037025807-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 18:36:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF17C3C011; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=O8tixRB4Jn8U6SwPLHiiUZZL5PI5PX3xBvx28clvGaE=; b=hOuDQTgioMRXcr+bHcwPEnMs2prVHwYEiS/GEmRWs+1HRQ6g9RXdQA9aaUe/fYCUKZ /udXDacnbJn1zAyO240qCBgs1AWDv4b2N1lIUeVeZjwFAZYqrjNKcJDKE0U0m3f2w1v6 C9X+3/uKZiES+L6GDiRt7vCMBZF1z4qSqHSmU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=G1kALuSlmkTvico1qiuhJP9iOrNhC1/NlJ3k8tt24ItpvZO96xLGNKTvJDpFPQorrv FYDXVKv+kOHbOrU3e99YamWxRll8VHc+YxrYNayBD+lIbi53KsSov4SKaDe2JQMHlxzG r/sRIVOIX7sBqcMv306r2RON4SwgEjwkcwxxY= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808031136m3210878em26445c725272354f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:36:14 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FCB 1010 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20934_14110584.1217788574587" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 56b74da3437a1bfd Resent-Message-ID: <-XGSX.A.0CG.fqflIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:36:15 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_20934_14110584.1217788574587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Here you go Aaron, hope this helps... (Im gonna save this somewhere, it crops up once in a while!) *ASSIGNING BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 Assigning NOTE function midi channel to same as EDP. (Performed Once)* *(ON the FCB1010 you can assign a different midi channel per function (5 x prog changes, 2 xcontrol changes 2 x expression pedals or 1x notenumbers) We will use the note numbers on the EDP) *1. Press and hold DOWN pedal while turning on the power. 2. Ensure DIRECT SELECT is enabled, Press footswitch 10 until lit. If lit do nothing. 3. Press UP 4. Select a midi function to edit. Press 10 (The Note Function) 5. Press UP 6. Use Exp pedal A to choose midi channel, Lets say 5! 7. Press UP 8. Press DOWN for at least 2.5 seconds to save and exit. *Choose your EDP Offset number *On the edp, choose your offset number. 1. Press Parameter button 3 times and multiply once 2. Default is 36. Most leave it at this, I have too, but may run into probs when you have 2 EDP's. *Assigning Note numbers to pedals for the EDP functions. (Performed once per EDP function required) *0. Choose the pedal you wish to give a function to* *1. Press and hold DOWN button (to edit) 2. Press UP once (to pass another function we dont need) 3. Now all lights should be OFF except for the one we want, that it 10. 4. Press and hold pedals to switch lights off, and press and hold the 10 button to switch it ON. (The 10 button denotes the use of the Note Number function) 5. Briefly press the 10 button to choose it for editing, it should flash. 6. Press up (to edit) 7. choose the EDP function number PLUS your offset number, using the Expression pedal A. (This seems weird I know: For Instance. Your offset = 36. Record Function = 2. Enter 38) Heres the ones YOU want. Record = 2 Overdub = 3 Multiply = 4 Insert = 5 Undo = 7 NextLoop = 8 But you NEED, I promise... SUS Replace = 21 Heres another for Instance: YOUR offset ??? Lets say 12 + NextLoop = 8 YOU USE 20!! 8. Press UP to exit editing that button 9. Press DOWN for 2.5 seconds or more to SAVE and EXIT. 10. Repeat for each function on a different pedal. Sorry if there are any errors here, I don't think so tho... Cheers... MArk On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Aaron Austin wrote: > Can anyone walk me through assigning just the basic ( > record,overdub,multiply,insert,undo,nextloop,) functions to my midi foot > controller 1-7. > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_20934_14110584.1217788574587 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Here you go Aaron, hope this helps... (Im gonna save this somewhere, it crops up once in a while!)

ASSIGNING BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010

Assigning NOTE function midi channel to same as EDP. (Performed Once)
(ON the FCB1010 you can assign a different midi channel per function (5 x prog changes, 2 xcontrol changes 2 x expression pedals or 1x notenumbers) We will use the note numbers on the EDP)

1. Press and hold DOWN pedal while turning on the power.
2. Ensure DIRECT SELECT is enabled, Press footswitch 10 until lit. If lit do nothing.
3. Press UP
4. Select a midi function to edit. Press 10 (The Note Function)
5. Press UP
6. Use Exp pedal A to choose midi channel, Lets say 5!
7. Press UP
8. Press DOWN for at least 2.5 seconds to save and exit.

Choose your EDP Offset number
On the edp, choose your offset number.

1. Press Parameter button 3 times and multiply once
2. Default is 36. Most leave it at this, I have too, but may run into probs when you have 2 EDP's.

Assigning Note numbers to pedals for the EDP functions. (Performed once per EDP function required)

0. Choose the pedal you wish to give a function to
1. Press and hold DOWN button (to edit)
2. Press UP once (to pass another function we dont need)
3. Now all lights should be OFF except for the one we want, that it 10.
4. Press and hold pedals to switch lights off, and press and hold the 10 button to switch it ON. (The 10 button denotes the use of the Note Number function)
5. Briefly press the 10 button to choose it for editing, it should flash.
6. Press up (to edit)
7. choose the EDP function number PLUS your offset number, using the Expression pedal A.
(This seems weird I know: For Instance. Your offset = 36. Record Function = 2. Enter 38)

Heres the ones YOU want.
Record = 2
Overdub = 3
Multiply = 4
Insert = 5
Undo = 7
NextLoop = 8

But you NEED, I promise...
SUS Replace = 21

Heres another for Instance: YOUR offset ??? Lets say 12 + NextLoop = 8  YOU USE 20!!

8. Press UP to exit editing that button
9. Press DOWN for 2.5 seconds or more to SAVE and EXIT.
10. Repeat for each function on a different pedal.

Sorry if there are any errors here, I don't think so tho...

Cheers... MArk


On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone walk me through assigning just the basic ( record,overdub,multiply,insert,undo,nextloop,) functions to my  midi foot controller 1-7.



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------=_Part_20934_14110584.1217788574587-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 18:41:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB8993C00F; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=IERMhmw9270pa4vc9FNGHCJb2GDBhePxnZwPJwU98tc=; b=HckEfvgiF4KFmG2lzQ8y04TQc5ggOAz8bxCrZfxSvMpr7pqnV2XTOSBGa1octLXmqZ hHuIUJlKtf8AAqKkZ4/QVcCMAara7RMtO5TW0PRnZ+M2KzXCBgRC5u/9XtUjTK+AgOBR Kx1qjMK1VPs23Zp1nqsGOXDUBU9qtMDTzIRF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZZXbV+gdsbshL/lJ0NTuET/PYTIumR01W747QdPw1UIMcchskQ3yBySTYp4203r6r8 fQlTJvA7O4toJAoyatQB/Y/rNkJ3+Z9TFkDq4OrOCbDObCypDxiypOiDlCTf1a/i5I0M nraDMlZmkPRP6yOFao4nNBTpfF4gwC7x9R070= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808031141w35bb9fc1y2c427771bfdeb77e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:41:15 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21977_28995377.1217788875311" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:41:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21977_28995377.1217788875311 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Harry, My apologies for ever bringing it up. We disagree on how it happened. It does sound too crazy to have happened that way; that's one thing they're counting on. All I can say is: look at the facts. Really. Look into them, more than watching a movie, more than getting news snippets or stuff from youtube. Engineers and physicists have said that the only way those building could fall thusly was a controlled demolition. There's a lot of physical, photographic and chemical evidence for this, as well as political. The setup for the demolition of these buildings would have to have taken place over weeks. Look into PNAC, and what they wanted to do, and what's been done since 9/11. They've carried out almost all of their agenda. They even said it would take a single unifying act to consolidate the people to back it, "like another Pearl Harbor". These people are Bush, Cheney and all of their little buddies who are making billions and billions of dollars off of this war on the backs of young men and women who deserve better than this from our govt. They're fucking killing our next generation for their personal profits...and it all started that day. I have no kids, and plan on keeping it that way, so I have the least invested here, and I can't let it lie. I don't think the "pentagon plane" evaporated, either; I don't think there ever was a plane at the pentagon... Again, forgive me for ever bringing it up. Thanks, Dave On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:27 AM, wrote: > All due respect, what does this have to do with music, looping or > anything else relevant to this group? Having lived through 9/11, in > Manhattan, and watched the buildings as the north tower burned and the south > tower was hit, having had friends who died, friends who had friends who > died, clients who had large parts of their work force decimated, and watched > people moving about the City with that death soot all over them, in a daze, > I find this whole thing offensive. Criticize Bush & Company for being > clueless, or worse, but don't give them credit for coming up with this > elaborate, insane plan to kill their own people to justify some political > agenda. I've stayed out of this until now but I have to wonder, do you > conspiracy folk realize how insane this sounds? Islamic fanatics with a > political and economic desire to take over the planet, "get back" at the > West and impose their version of reality on the rest of the world did this. > Bush, and the government of the United States, for all of the other issues > you might rightly point to, did not do this. For pete's sake, would you > please get back to the things that bring us together and stop this divisive > discussion? > > With all due respect, > > Harry > > Harry Weinberg, Esq. > Law Offices of Harry Weinberg > 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor > New York, N.Y. 10013 > (212) 989-2908 > In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:55:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > marksmartus@gmail.com writes: > > Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I > don't have immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way > this video is put together and to conspiracy theories in general is > EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me > seems utterly outrageous. A huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes > into a building creating a fire that burns above 2000 degrees F > (easily hot enough to soften steel...I used to work in a steel mill, > and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften it up for easy > milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's hard for > me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in a > building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be > the correct one (Occam's Razor). > > But I will watch some more and do some more reading. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews > on AOL Autos > . > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_21977_28995377.1217788875311 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Harry,

My apologies for ever bringing it up. We dis= agree on how it happened. It does sound too crazy to have happened that way= ; that's one thing  they're counting on. All I can say is: loo= k at the facts. Really. Look into them, more than watching a movie, more th= an getting news snippets or stuff from youtube. Engineers and physicists ha= ve said that the only way those building could fall thusly was a controlled= demolition. There's a lot of physical, photographic and chemical evide= nce for this, as well as political. The setup for the demolition of these b= uildings would have to have taken place over weeks. Look into PNAC, and wha= t they wanted to do, and what's been done since 9/11. They've carri= ed out almost all of their agenda. They even said it would take a single un= ifying act to consolidate the people to back it, "like another Pearl H= arbor". These people are Bush, Cheney and all of their little buddies = who are making billions and billions of dollars off of this war on the back= s of young men and women who deserve better than this from our govt. They&#= 39;re fucking killing our next generation for their personal profits...and = it all started that day. I have no kids, and plan on keeping it that way, s= o I have the least invested here, and I can't let it lie.

I don't think the "pentagon plane" evaporated, either; I = don't think there ever was a plane at the pentagon...

Again, for= give me for ever bringing it up.

Thanks,
Dave

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:27 AM, <HarryEsq@aol.com> wrote:
All due respect, what does this have to do with music, looping or anyt= hing=20 else relevant to this group?  Having lived through 9/11, in Manhattan,= and=20 watched the buildings as the north tower burned and the south tower was hit= ,=20 having had friends who died, friends who had friends who died, clients who = had=20 large parts of their work force decimated, and watched people moving a= bout=20 the City with that death soot all over them, in a daze, I find this whole t= hing=20 offensive.  Criticize Bush & Company for being clueless, or worse,= but=20 don't give them credit for coming up with this elaborate, insane plan t= o kill=20 their own people to justify some political agenda.  I've stayed ou= t of this=20 until now but I have to wonder, do you conspiracy folk realize how insane t= his=20 sounds?  Islamic fanatics with a political and economic desire to take= over=20 the planet, "get back" at the West and impose their version = of reality on=20 the rest of the world did this.  Bush, and the government of the Unite= d=20 States, for all of the other issues you might rightly point to, did not do= =20 this.  For pete's sake, would you please get back to the things th= at bring=20 us together and stop this divisive discussion?
 
With all due respect,
 
Harry
 
Harry=20 Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th=20 Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212) 989-2908=20
 
In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:55:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 marksmartus@gmai= l.com writes:
Well, I=20 haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I
don&= #39;t have=20 immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way
this video is = put=20 together and to conspiracy theories in general is
EXTREME SKEPTICISM. = The=20 WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me
seems utterly outrageous. A= huge=20 plane filled with jet fuel crashes
into a building creating a fire tha= t=20 burns above 2000 degrees F
(easily hot enough to soften steel...I used= to=20 work in a steel mill,
and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften = it up=20 for easy
milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That&#= 39;s hard=20 for
me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in=20 a
building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to= =20 be
the correct one (Occam's Razor).

But I will watch some m= ore and=20 do some more reading.

--
Mark=20 Smart
htt= p://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net




Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.<= /font>



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"The Universe seem= s neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such cr= eatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_21977_28995377.1217788875311-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 18:47:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA30C3C013; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=d2opLkejbwcA:10 a=MhWjL4uRlvEA:10 a=ePC-paLKAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=JYwfFaXR6lPDu9K6wqQA:9 a=1qMg8RUBOdMDDg-FOE4A:7 a=g3k5gliwgXiXBSx4jTFTKTHHw5gA:4 a=C-lB3HWSK-8A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=V63EoTUkphoA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=r0A7q1LFzQfnC9qFyRgA:9 a=AeDFmAceJuH9urFhtdYA:7 a=eQsawYwWQ2P8ANKlaHSkTuY5DWQA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808031059hef7111bhc631814c90ed0e78@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0808031059hef7111bhc631814c90ed0e78@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--1036105839 Message-Id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:47:42 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:47:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--1036105839 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed YEAH! On Aug 3, 2008, at 1:59 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I hate it when people start a rant with "with all due respect..." > Firstly I dont believe that Dave or Chris or I have actually said > that we believe totally in the information that came out of us > watching this film (did you watch it Harry?) OH no we all had > questions...Sure I dont believe the three towers were bombed, or > that the Pentagon plane "evaporated"... do you think Im completely > stupid... > BUT... that is exactly the point, There are so many holes in the > accepted story of what happened on 911, that fuck I think we all > have a duty to try to find out, or at least make a noise about it > and ask those questions. > It is exactly BECAUSE of people like you,people who were there, > people who were truly personally affected by it that we dont want > to just let it lie. > I have a great friend that MOVED back to Norway from NY (a close > up witness, was covered in the "Death Dust" (as you > melodramatically called it, Fox News perhaps?) ) after it happened > because he said he could NOT talk rationally about what MAY have > caused it, or what COULD have happened, because feeling was running > so high in NYC. > Damn it, you just cant bump thru life accepting all you read, watch > or hear, you HAVE to be able to think for your self AND ask > questions. So much has been done to YOUR freedom, in the name of > "The fight against terror" that could and would never have happened > if 911 had not... We in Europe talk about it constantly, everyday. > EVERYONE I KNOW talk in the pub about the relationship Prescott > Bush had to the Nazis, the way Bush cheated his way into office, > and the way the American media is wholly owned by Murdoch. Its > common knowledge for us... is it common knowledge for the majority > of the US people? I dont think so.. > > As for not being on topic for this list? Fuck that... Im chatting > here with my tuned in musician friends about things that matter... > often musicians are right! > > > m > > > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM, wrote: > All due respect, what does this have to do with music, looping or > anything else relevant to this group? Having lived through 9/11, > in Manhattan, and watched the buildings as the north tower burned > and the south tower was hit, having had friends who died, friends > who had friends who died, clients who had large parts of their work > force decimated, and watched people moving about the City with that > death soot all over them, in a daze, I find this whole thing > offensive. Criticize Bush & Company for being clueless, or worse, > but don't give them credit for coming up with this elaborate, > insane plan to kill their own people to justify some political > agenda. I've stayed out of this until now but I have to wonder, do > you conspiracy folk realize how insane this sounds? Islamic > fanatics with a political and economic desire to take over the > planet, "get back" at the West and impose their version of reality > on the rest of the world did this. Bush, and the government of the > United States, for all of the other issues you might rightly point > to, did not do this. For pete's sake, would you please get back to > the things that bring us together and stop this divisive discussion? > > With all due respect, > > Harry > > Harry Weinberg, Esq. > Law Offices of Harry Weinberg > 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor > New York, N.Y. 10013 > (212) 989-2908 > > In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:55:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > marksmartus@gmail.com writes: > Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I > don't have immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way > this video is put together and to conspiracy theories in general is > EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me > seems utterly outrageous. A huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes > into a building creating a fire that burns above 2000 degrees F > (easily hot enough to soften steel...I used to work in a steel mill, > and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften it up for easy > milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's hard for > me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in a > building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be > the correct one (Occam's Razor). > > But I will watch some more and do some more reading. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > > > > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read > reviews on AOL Autos. > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no --Apple-Mail-2--1036105839 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 YEAH!
On Aug 3, 2008, at 1:59 PM, mark francombe = wrote:

I hate it when people start a rant with = "with all due respect..."
Firstly I dont believe that Dave or Chris = or I have actually said that we believe totally in the information that = came out of us watching this film (did you watch it Harry?) OH no we all = had questions...Sure I dont believe the three towers were bombed, or = that the Pentagon plane "evaporated"... do you think Im completely = stupid...
BUT... that is exactly the point, There are so many holes = in the accepted story of what happened on 911, that fuck I think we all = have a duty to try to find out, or at least make a noise about it and = ask those questions.
It is exactly BECAUSE of people like you,people = who were there,=A0 people who were truly personally affected by it that = we dont want to just let it lie.
=A0I have a great friend that MOVED = back to Norway from NY (a close up witness, was covered in the "Death = Dust" (as you melodramatically called it, Fox News perhaps?) ) after it = happened because he said he could NOT talk rationally about what MAY = have caused it, or what COULD have happened, because feeling was running = so high in NYC.
Damn it, you just cant bump thru life accepting all = you read, watch or hear, you HAVE to be able to think for your self AND = ask questions. So much has been done to YOUR freedom, in the name of = "The fight against terror" that could and would never have happened if = 911 had not... We in Europe talk about it constantly, everyday. EVERYONE = I KNOW talk in the pub about the relationship Prescott Bush had to the = Nazis, the way Bush cheated his way into office, and the way the = American media is wholly owned by Murdoch. Its common knowledge for = us... is it common knowledge for the majority of the US people? I dont = think so..

As for not being on topic for this list? Fuck that... = Im chatting here with my tuned in musician friends about things that = matter... often musicians are = right!


m




On = Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM, <HarryEsq@aol.com> = wrote:
All due = respect, what does this have to do with music, looping or anything else = relevant to this group?=A0 Having lived through 9/11, in Manhattan, and = watched the buildings as the north tower burned and the south tower was = hit, having had friends who died, friends who had friends who died, = clients who had large parts of their work force=A0decimated, and watched = people moving about the City with that death soot all over them, in a = daze, I find this whole thing offensive.=A0 Criticize Bush & Company = for being clueless, or worse, but don't give them credit for coming up = with this elaborate, insane plan to kill their own people to justify = some political agenda.=A0 I've stayed out of this until now but I have = to wonder, do you conspiracy folk realize how insane this sounds?=A0 = Islamic fanatics with a political and economic desire to take over the = planet, "get back" at the West=A0and impose their version of reality on = the rest of the world did this.=A0 Bush, and the government of the = United States, for all of the other issues you might rightly point to, = did not do this.=A0 For pete's sake, would you please get back to the = things that bring us together and stop this divisive discussion?
=
=A0
With all due respect,
=A0
=
Harry
=A0
Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 = Beach Street - 8th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212) 989-2908 =
=A0
In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:55:08 A.M. = Eastern Daylight Time, marksmartus@gmail.com writes:
Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 = conspiracy theories so far, so I
don't have immediate replies for = all these. My reaction to the way
this video is put together and to = conspiracy theories in general is
EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC = controlled demolition hypothesis to me
seems utterly outrageous. A = huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes
into a building creating a = fire that burns above 2000 degrees F
(easily hot enough to soften = steel...I used to work in a steel mill,
and heating it to this temp = is plenty to soften it up for easy
milling) and the building is NOT = supposed to collapse? That's hard for
me to buy. Plus trying to = hide massive amounts of explosives in a
building without anyone = noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be
the correct one = (Occam's Razor).

But I will watch some more and do some more = reading.

--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net

=



Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL = Autos.



--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
=

= --Apple-Mail-2--1036105839-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 18:50:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58CB33C01B; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=inubd2SwqI/I9MaUrb4bhAXD/RkkUu+ndLcMQB8Ob6E=; b=ZE1zrsD87chLh6xhFfV47zxYx9/8kPRqqvHYngPy6O+wYxWsU0PsU/IZzYJVzm0z4d qVICSvlSCqihzoaMDJcZu4li4R5Ket78yGGMWrayLwLNuFGFyEoFLZHvjtudEp4DSIkc Ttooa6xG4ivQvQcLqiTIVdUrIZkXJ3ikLDV24= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=EXlBXjnse6sQuYkdIygQGZNmQpFyu37gPc1MkYYdFyLaZ1fcDtArIXGB5mLnmwhqgs tLxmPleNd8EfdEfiOY1DsOaqV87btZ56PSvQ0QAJKqszCM/PE6OQazSoyfNtMpYTGlUp G4t943tRIWm7pBwBbfhOsy6dGXmtG52CYJVV4= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:50:40 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21997_16754870.1217789440740" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:50:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21997_16754870.1217789440740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline There are witnesses to people doing thing on empty floor of the WTC buildings. Weeks of heavy machinery, then to look in and there's nothing at all...just walls...and you don't need miles of cabling if you're going via radio freqs. i look at some of those debunking sites. They're bunk. The piece of the 757 from the Pentagon that's on the ground can be seen being picked up in other pictures, by one man's hand. Where are the 2 - 6 ton titanium engines. When I see them, I'll let it go. I don't care how fast that plane was going or how much fuel it had, those engines wouldn't have just evaporated. Seeing how much of the Pentagon they're rebuilding, or five frames of blurry film don't change a thing. Where are the rest of hte films that they confiscated form the surrounding gas stations, etc? Why won't they release them? On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Mark Smart wrote: > Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I > don't have immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way > this video is put together and to conspiracy theories in general is > EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me > seems utterly outrageous. A huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes > into a building creating a fire that burns above 2000 degrees F > (easily hot enough to soften steel...I used to work in a steel mill, > and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften it up for easy > milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's hard for > me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in a > building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be > the correct one (Occam's Razor). > > But I will watch some more and do some more reading. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_21997_16754870.1217789440740 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
There are witnesses to people doing thing on empty floor of the WTC buildings. Weeks of heavy machinery, then to look in and there's nothing at all...just walls...and  you don't need miles of cabling if you're going via radio freqs.

i look at some of those debunking sites. They're bunk. The piece of the 757 from the Pentagon that's on the ground can be seen being picked up in other pictures, by one man's hand. Where are the 2 - 6 ton titanium engines. When I see them, I'll let it go. I don't care how fast that plane was going or how much fuel it had, those engines wouldn't have just evaporated. Seeing how much of the Pentagon they're rebuilding, or five frames of blurry film don't change a thing. Where are the rest of hte films that they confiscated form the surrounding gas stations, etc? Why won't they release them?

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I
don't have immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way
this video is put together and to conspiracy theories in general is
EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me
seems utterly outrageous. A huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes
into a building creating a fire that burns above 2000 degrees F
(easily hot enough to soften steel...I used to work in a steel mill,
and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften it up for easy
milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's hard for
me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in a
building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be
the correct one (Occam's Razor).

But I will watch some more and do some more reading.

--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_21997_16754870.1217789440740-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 19:05:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA5C03C012; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <52D5FC13-3BAC-4CC2-864D-5416E0442005@kliklak.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: loopers delight From: jayrope looper's delight Subject: pretec 256 mb repeater industrial cfc works Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:05:14 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:05:23 +0000 (UTC) pretec 256 mb industrial CFC for repeater works (under os 1.1) tested: -stereo record tracks 1-2 then set repeater to reverse and - stereo record tracks 3-4 on top. no glitches with fresh formatted card, even on highest possible tempi. i guess that could change, as soon as the card fills up. nevertheless for playback it shoudl be alrite to copy files to harddisk, fresh format card and then copy back everything to unfragmentedly someone had a longer test list before, which i forgot to copypaste, please repost. rick walker: big sorry, notorious email deletion has prevented me from mailing you directly, i hope this reaches you! order info: jactron.co.uk - delivery time to berlin was 21 days (!) - there might be some cards left at page http://www.jactron.co.uk/ compactflash-industrial-grade-eol-legacy-products/pretec-industrial- grade-compactflash-disk-32mb-to-512mb-hitachi-sah05/ good luck. :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 19:15:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21B8B3C014; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=H5iIdJ0CkpgmMG1GurqE6yKAdmhq9fnQe61DdihvTjU=; b=OPZCUpA8DnypBC0NKEgFNvER0HACMR9fX+/hErrOXN7rTXFsil3ZdcXzpdh32j6/Tq Tt3A+0baFIhjX3eQfLnccQ87bWJMxkgvWJZe0APZaRTY7dRKFjlNsNTR+e6RJWUBRHG6 rGnuTrkSqJuZneLuOSKgbVHLQ+5UdabvgtWhI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=K0Tuc2jtP0K3MQN6TstaZGeOZEp7DAGSkSIDPSXftEUK/WARKvLLzF6PO/WWLY9p10 v1CYqLE4XeD1/vgRJqVGBu0TIEwp77O3krUIpuHfjafTBsh93d3wgaaAPN30B5Y3GfeK eH3elhxa+rf7qbZGPmya4D0+feKrE9pkGo6D8= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:15:49 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20865_20852542.1217790949653" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:15:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_20865_20852542.1217790949653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It's as if the Pentagon is some "High Security Access Only" headquarters of the largest military force in the world. Normally they're really open about this sort of thing. TH On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Dave wrote: > Seeing how much of the Pentagon they're rebuilding, or five frames of > blurry film don't change a thing. Where are the rest of hte films that they > confiscated form the surrounding gas stations, etc? Why won't they release > them? > > > ------=_Part_20865_20852542.1217790949653 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
It's as if the Pentagon is some "High Security Access Only" headquarters of the largest military force in the world. 
Normally they're really open about this sort of thing.

TH

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
Seeing how much of the Pentagon they're rebuilding, or five frames of blurry film don't change a thing. Where are the rest of hte films that they confiscated form the surrounding gas stations, etc? Why won't they release them?



------=_Part_20865_20852542.1217790949653-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 19:29:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 594FF3C011; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808030409n76f2053cvf30d0f80e2f8bcb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808030409n76f2053cvf30d0f80e2f8bcb5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--1033598275 Message-Id: From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie...(Skull and Bones) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:29:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:29:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--1033598275 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Read the book "Fleshing Out Skull and Bones". It will answer a lot of your questions. This dark stuff has been going for a lot longer than some may realize, and the Bush dynasty and related previous family members (Walker,etc) have played a major role in such for over a 100 years now. (including the financing of Hitler, along with the German industrialist Thyssen family firm) Not "conspiracy theory" stuff. All from documented from US gov't and foreign intelligence sources and personal accounts of previously well- connected insiders who finally decided to speak out. Actually, you may not want to know these things. Will possibly shatter "The American Dream" for a lot of folks. But, that is the way the Truth cookie crumbles sometimes... -Rev. Fever http://www.fleshingoutskullandbones.com/ http://www.wingtv.net/skull.html PS- Also, see the movie "The Damned" (1969) by Luchino Visconti. Obviously based on the Thyssen family and it's sordid history. I highly REVcommend seeing this excellent and disturbing film. Visconti was a genius and also quite brave to have made this film. (look what happened to Pasolini, after awhile of him telling the Truth, as well) --Apple-Mail-8--1033598275 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Read the book "Fleshing Out Skull and Bones". It will answer a lot of = your questions.=A0
This dark stuff has been going for a lot longer = than some may realize,=A0and the Bush dynasty and related previous = family members (Walker,etc)
=A0have played a major role in = such for over a 100 years now. =A0(including the financing of Hitler, = along with the German industrialist Thyssen family = firm)=A0

Not "conspiracy theory" stuff. =A0All = from documented from US gov't and=A0foreign intelligence sources and = personal accounts of previously well-connected insiders=A0
who = finally decided to speak out.=A0Actually, you may not want to know these = things. Will possibly shatter "The American Dream" for a lot of = folks.=A0
But, that is the way the Truth cookie crumbles = sometimes...

-Rev. = Fever


PS- Also, see the movie "The Damned" (1969) by = Luchino Visconti. Obviously based on the Thyssen family and it's sordid = history.
I highly REVcommend seeing this = excellent and disturbing film. Visconti was a genius and also quite = brave to have made this film.
(look what = happened to Pasolini, after awhile of him telling the Truth, as = well)
= --Apple-Mail-8--1033598275-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 19:46:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B79B3C013; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2944DxU+LAuNmpEA2mlBXDnAGlG6Sbc9W4Q28lQRFN4=; b=R1j5rRr9+MxHu+JS45/s5+n6k+xE4J9asXn2wDFipyPn5zKKyr+aJiODsozoV4ESYs MFWcwGHny1BmHBHCQEGh+AcBzrNRDY1Ot3JOP37WDd0rxmlq+pYN2bwnD2SCc215Y1pl mpomoJgqr6Cgffot59b10r5zjU+i0vrptCFzw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=dMk3we1Gqq0VSXaR0TCybCaKlFPMEmcAa7Mr1jCI0ZvuR6dZDl0s11T8SXk75rqx83 N79TKLpBFhTrAQ6tMcKcef4t2LLpyUWIL1KgAEqqECe6O3MeeH+F5jvniN8P2mxZQiY3 CUc7LppaoGKlqZ8/RuxnZlTYUJTVtBeeIPgGs= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808031246l271847b3y39d71e343dda7124@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:46:50 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie...(Skull and Bones) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22259_27149681.1217792810615" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808030409n76f2053cvf30d0f80e2f8bcb5@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:46:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_22259_27149681.1217792810615 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Some of this stuff is fleshed out in the movie, too, about Bush Sr's daddy financing the Nazi's, etc.... And thanks for that pilot's page, whoever sent that. Good stuff there. I also looked at the pop mech debunking page. It looks to me like they do a good job of avoiding the questions, put up pictures that are contrary to the questions they're trying to answer, etc (ie: the pic that "answers" the question regarding the puffs of smoke that preceded the fall of the building. And they don't explain how it fell at the speed of gravity. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Rev Fever wrote: > Read the book "Fleshing Out Skull and Bones". It will answer a lot of your > questions. This dark stuff has been going for a lot longer than some may > realize, and the Bush dynasty and related previous family members > (Walker,etc) > have played a major role in such for over a 100 years now. (including the > financing of Hitler, along with the German industrialist Thyssen family > firm) > > Not "conspiracy theory" stuff. All from documented from US gov't > and foreign intelligence sources and personal accounts of previously > well-connected insiders > who finally decided to speak out. Actually, you may not want to know these > things. Will possibly shatter "The American Dream" for a lot of folks. > But, that is the way the Truth cookie crumbles sometimes... > -Rev. Fever > > http://www.fleshingoutskullandbones.com/ > http://www.wingtv.net/skull.html > > PS- Also, see the movie "The Damned" (1969) by Luchino Visconti. Obviously > based on the Thyssen family and it's sordid history. > I highly REVcommend seeing this excellent and disturbing film. Visconti was > a genius and also quite brave to have made this film. > (look what happened to Pasolini, after awhile of him telling the Truth, as > well) > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_22259_27149681.1217792810615 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Some of this stuff is fleshed out in the movie, too, about Bush Sr's daddy financing the Nazi's, etc....

And thanks for that pilot's page, whoever sent that. Good stuff there. I also looked at the pop mech debunking page. It looks to me like they do a good job of avoiding the questions, put up pictures that are contrary to the questions they're trying to answer, etc (ie: the pic that "answers" the question regarding the puffs of smoke that preceded the fall of the building. And they don't explain how it fell at the speed of gravity.

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Rev Fever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:
Read the book "Fleshing Out Skull and Bones". It will answer a lot of your questions. 
This dark stuff has been going for a lot longer than some may realize, and the Bush dynasty and related previous family members (Walker,etc)
 have played a major role in such for over a 100 years now.  (including the financing of Hitler, along with the German industrialist Thyssen family firm) 

Not "conspiracy theory" stuff.  All from documented from US gov't and foreign intelligence sources and personal accounts of previously well-connected insiders 
who finally decided to speak out. Actually, you may not want to know these things. Will possibly shatter "The American Dream" for a lot of folks. 
But, that is the way the Truth cookie crumbles sometimes...

-Rev. Fever


PS- Also, see the movie "The Damned" (1969) by Luchino Visconti. Obviously based on the Thyssen family and it's sordid history.
I highly REVcommend seeing this excellent and disturbing film. Visconti was a genius and also quite brave to have made this film.
(look what happened to Pasolini, after awhile of him telling the Truth, as well)



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_22259_27149681.1217792810615-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 19:49:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DE8C3C018; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=GMhpzAe/XtqID+t9+a1x2bkF8BeZ84t74FBaGblLuKE=; b=mOwuq4GUXISJF9QtUiDBfxzc3E9sOYqu6+CSe/p4YqM3kK8xvfsy475Z5AprO4E2UC nzOrtc7pXkhnTGJ8VBWr1oEHfCs8sO1IQG3nnZMDJRX3/rHONuG8t6EuCD3/9kbDGvbC iJDcwcxOkNPIl5l3BiDCsA5jWB2sbknA6Qa74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=OQDuuq5OTK3ji02FVPBJhYxcqM04FjgSjDjNj4R104Yb5RqwbymMctfW/JxxA9V1xS HOjZGwUQ8DA+zfQlK+4hbih962cg/oW+z6vnpxiBgtQqc49ctD+FcTlHLrxxwF0m2np8 8cwnL4z02FVOlW43ezE6cAeUcOkNtDcGJ/fmA= Message-ID: <101191640808031249q79b28d7cr6f6b56ccc9e7f5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:49:45 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Stand solutions? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 881183c4733aa471 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:49:46 +0000 (UTC) I want to start doing more jamming and performing with my laptop setup. but of course, the requirements aren't simple for playing in a band or jamming, at a minimum i need to make sure that wherever i have to stand, there will be a place near me where the laptop is accessible, visible and off the floor. i could bring a portable table with me, but that's kind of big and clunky. then for other types of performances, i might want to add support for a mini-keyboard and pad controller like trigger finger. and ideally there'd be some place to hold the audio interface so i'd lean to some kind of modular system, but the keyboard and pad controller are secondary concerns at the moment you folks found any stand solutions that you can recommend or diss? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 19:53:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC9C93C01D; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2GzTXfqC6v5fbQM+kP6sJk43PgA9plWQWB16dYjAbXE=; b=kS0KevdwkxV4ssr7itvZzaIq3rVe94+cpoQdmkdL2lI2F6mJY/wX61uB/mrs2leTh0 V0Dm6sL+So/bGQGBfkKwogThPb+rwFcpC3neLSbgVc8KJVaCTHF3IERZYKv61iBNYPYJ HD51Fs8xquDna9bIH+JivnATnLcEhtqodLxYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=WHqoxYlk+JDeCrIpUwH5BCRbLVQPkfHZacvAXHcJClOlmX1a24XzheE6mf8swv70x/ a0YXAMR/bXM7/6qKS7/NvnU+WAvQ4jmaE1NsYDJfDY2Ojx8RVv59apgFH3mRA8n1vvu8 wHwO5lc/sBkZlQPlVHXWylwBDMK1naB5WbLjM= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:53:17 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stand solutions? In-Reply-To: <101191640808031249q79b28d7cr6f6b56ccc9e7f5b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21039_18458625.1217793197595" References: <101191640808031249q79b28d7cr6f6b56ccc9e7f5b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8uk4oB.A.NFB.uyglIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:53:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21039_18458625.1217793197595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I use an On-Stage music stand: http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--MUPSM7211B or two, for the larger amount of stuff you're describing. TH On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > I want to start doing more jamming and performing with my laptop > setup. but of course, the requirements aren't simple > > for playing in a band or jamming, at a minimum i need to make sure > that wherever i have to stand, there will be a place near me where the > laptop is accessible, visible and off the floor. i could bring a > portable table with me, but that's kind of big and clunky. > > then for other types of performances, i might want to add support for > a mini-keyboard and pad controller like trigger finger. and ideally > there'd be some place to hold the audio interface > > so i'd lean to some kind of modular system, but the keyboard and pad > controller are secondary concerns at the moment > > > > ------=_Part_21039_18458625.1217793197595 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I use an On-Stage music stand:

http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--MUPSM7211B

or two, for the larger amount of stuff you're describing.

TH

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
I want to start doing more jamming and performing with my laptop
setup. but of course, the requirements aren't simple

for playing in a band or jamming, at a minimum i need to make sure
that wherever i have to stand, there will be a place near me where the
laptop is accessible, visible and off the floor.  i could bring a
portable table with me, but that's kind of big and clunky.

then for other types of performances, i might want to add support for
a mini-keyboard and pad controller like trigger finger. and ideally
there'd be some place to hold the audio interface

so i'd lean to some kind of modular system, but the keyboard and pad
controller are secondary concerns at the moment




------=_Part_21039_18458625.1217793197595-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 19:54:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CF243C01F; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <344DD305E509461085BD272E1AEEDAFE@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <836401.71621.qm@web26204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kaisers article - How I Lost 150 Ibs. thanks to Max/MSP! Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:54:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:54:11 +0000 (UTC) *********************** http://www.jeffkaiser.com/papers/spark_2007.pdf >I`ve just read Kaiser article. This is very interesting. I would like to >understand more on this and relating topics. So I aks; >1. what about the sound when one goes from pedals to software (analog v.s >digital sound)? -Are the results of this (sound) also related to the instument one plays? I think it can, but not necessarily...meaning it is not absolutely true that one or the other must be the case, and it is relative to many factors. The intent of the artist is one of many factors. Some guitarists in the purist camp of schools will only play through a tube amp, and they may not do well with the change. Others guitarists have been playing through digital amps and effect processors for years, so moving to the computer may not be as a shift. McLaughlin is a good example of this. It may not be as big a factor for an electro-acoustic musician playing the piano or sax, or in Jeff's case the trumpet. Jeff had no problem with the shift of sound from pedals to max/msp. If anything, the clarity and control of his effects in max improved his sound. Again, too many factors to answer yes or no to that question, in the absolute sense. > -Will the guitar sound as good going digital Depends on the artist. The questio is entirely relative. This is somewhat of an un-answerable question unto itself, without considering the intent and nature of the artist. For me the answer is yes. In fact, I now like the sound of my guitar better through my amp VST sim and max/msp, then through traditional guitar amps. I have more control over my tone, rather than being stuck with a one trick pony amp. > 2. How/why is it better or easier to work with knobs on the software > compared to the pedals? Whats really the difference? I don't personally think it is easer or harder either way in the end. Though for me it is physically easier to control my effect parameters with a foot controller or MIDI controller, than by bending down and manually tweaking a nob. The difference is variance of control and diverse accessibility. > 3. What does this changes means for the audience? Is the movement made by > the player in the digital domain as realistic regarding the relationship > sound-movement that people are used to with acoustic instrument? Good question. If we are talking the sonic output I don't think there is any fundamental difference for the audience, especially non-musician audiences. I would be highly skeptical that a non-musician could tell the difference beween a max/msp delay effect and an Ibanez footpedal delay effect. That is with sound, of course. Visually, an audience might find it more entertaining to watch a musician manually tweak pedals on the floor, vs. staring at the computer, or at his MIDI footpedal. This would be relevant of someone considers entertaining a requirement of performing or being an artist. I don't. On the positive side, by going computer and more automated, it allows the artist to try different modes of entertainment that aren't gear related, but more engaging with the audience. For instance, if I am controlling my delay time with a foot pedal, I can look at the audience and engage them; whereas if I an hunched over and focusing on a tiny nob, it is not as easy to engage the audience. > 4. How come that still many well known musicians still uses hardware? > (Hassel - Molvaer - Bugge - Aarset) My option only: Because they are creatures of habit and/or don't have the time or motivation to move to laptop. Or, they are paying someone to lug their gear around, so it makes no difference what they use so long as they get their sound. I guarantee, if some of these premadonna rock stars had to setup their own 20-space racks, tons of Marshall stacks, and countless pedals strung across the floor, they might consider streamlining their setups. :) Moreover, I think it is a matter of time when everyone converts...not an IF, but when. Maybe 10 years? 20 years? I'm not sure, but in the future I believe analog effects will be mostly in museums, replaced by digital effects that can emulate them beyond the ability for human senses to tell the difference. > Are there more articles like Kaisers on topics like this? Good question. I have not searched. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 20:08:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F89D3C01D; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <479010.92676.qm@web26202.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kaisers playing - old rig v.s new rig Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:08:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <53qt0D.A.11B.3AhlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:08:23 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- I would like to see or study a live gig - best of all the same tune - maybe with the same player - playing it with hardware one time and then with software. It would have been nice to observe the differens in sound - movement - performance - working rutines and the audiences respons to all this. *********** Well, I am open to see what others can offer in terms of videos, but this is the best I can do to show a performance comparson between all laptop and hardware systems. Me playing solo with hardware looping and effects gear (two EDPs, floor effects processor, hardware effects, etc) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-706854679488545670&hl=en Ditto above http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8337869227984120924&hl=en Me playing mandolin and laptop only, with percussionist (Vincent Miresse) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-102195581522407456&hl=en Me playing with guitar and laptop only, with percussionist (Robert Sterling) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2521007324347368288&hl=en Me playing with guitar and laptop only, with percussionist (Jared Hallock) and horn player (Brian McFadin) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6446774432512685442 ******* Kaiser or anyone - do you have videos to cover this? Or maybe there already are some studies on this things? Best regards Rune F. 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Are there any other commands you might recommend i assign? On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:36 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Here you go Aaron, hope this helps... (Im gonna save this somewhere, it > crops up once in a while!) > > *ASSIGNING BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 > > Assigning NOTE function midi channel to same as EDP. (Performed Once)* > *(ON the FCB1010 you can assign a different midi channel per function (5 x > prog changes, 2 xcontrol changes 2 x expression pedals or 1x notenumbers) We > will use the note numbers on the EDP) > > *1. Press and hold DOWN pedal while turning on the power. > 2. Ensure DIRECT SELECT is enabled, Press footswitch 10 until lit. If lit > do nothing. > 3. Press UP > 4. Select a midi function to edit. Press 10 (The Note Function) > 5. Press UP > 6. Use Exp pedal A to choose midi channel, Lets say 5! > 7. Press UP > 8. Press DOWN for at least 2.5 seconds to save and exit. > > *Choose your EDP Offset number > *On the edp, choose your offset number. > > 1. Press Parameter button 3 times and multiply once > 2. Default is 36. Most leave it at this, I have too, but may run into probs > when you have 2 EDP's. > > *Assigning Note numbers to pedals for the EDP functions. (Performed once > per EDP function required) > > *0. Choose the pedal you wish to give a function to* > *1. Press and hold DOWN button (to edit) > 2. Press UP once (to pass another function we dont need) > 3. Now all lights should be OFF except for the one we want, that it 10. > 4. Press and hold pedals to switch lights off, and press and hold the 10 > button to switch it ON. (The 10 button denotes the use of the Note Number > function) > 5. Briefly press the 10 button to choose it for editing, it should flash. > 6. Press up (to edit) > 7. choose the EDP function number PLUS your offset number, using the > Expression pedal A. > (This seems weird I know: For Instance. Your offset = 36. Record Function = > 2. Enter 38) > > Heres the ones YOU want. > Record = 2 > Overdub = 3 > Multiply = 4 > Insert = 5 > Undo = 7 > NextLoop = 8 > > But you NEED, I promise... > SUS Replace = 21 > > Heres another for Instance: YOUR offset ??? Lets say 12 + NextLoop = 8 YOU > USE 20!! > > 8. Press UP to exit editing that button > 9. Press DOWN for 2.5 seconds or more to SAVE and EXIT. > 10. Repeat for each function on a different pedal. > > Sorry if there are any errors here, I don't think so tho... > > Cheers... MArk > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Aaron Austin wrote: > >> Can anyone walk me through assigning just the basic ( >> record,overdub,multiply,insert,undo,nextloop,) functions to my midi foot >> controller 1-7. >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no > ------=_Part_27436_16281488.1217794489615 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Thank you so much mark that made it very easy and quick to do it. Are there any other commands you might recommend i assign?

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:36 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Here you go Aaron, hope this helps... (Im gonna save this somewhere, it crops up once in a while!)

ASSIGNING BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010

Assigning NOTE function midi channel to same as EDP. (Performed Once)
(ON the FCB1010 you can assign a different midi channel per function (5 x prog changes, 2 xcontrol changes 2 x expression pedals or 1x notenumbers) We will use the note numbers on the EDP)

1. Press and hold DOWN pedal while turning on the power.
2. Ensure DIRECT SELECT is enabled, Press footswitch 10 until lit. If lit do nothing.
3. Press UP
4. Select a midi function to edit. Press 10 (The Note Function)
5. Press UP
6. Use Exp pedal A to choose midi channel, Lets say 5!
7. Press UP
8. Press DOWN for at least 2.5 seconds to save and exit.

Choose your EDP Offset number
On the edp, choose your offset number.

1. Press Parameter button 3 times and multiply once
2. Default is 36. Most leave it at this, I have too, but may run into probs when you have 2 EDP's.

Assigning Note numbers to pedals for the EDP functions. (Performed once per EDP function required)

0. Choose the pedal you wish to give a function to
1. Press and hold DOWN button (to edit)
2. Press UP once (to pass another function we dont need)
3. Now all lights should be OFF except for the one we want, that it 10.
4. Press and hold pedals to switch lights off, and press and hold the 10 button to switch it ON. (The 10 button denotes the use of the Note Number function)
5. Briefly press the 10 button to choose it for editing, it should flash.
6. Press up (to edit)
7. choose the EDP function number PLUS your offset number, using the Expression pedal A.
(This seems weird I know: For Instance. Your offset = 36. Record Function = 2. Enter 38)

Heres the ones YOU want.
Record = 2
Overdub = 3
Multiply = 4
Insert = 5
Undo = 7
NextLoop = 8

But you NEED, I promise...
SUS Replace = 21

Heres another for Instance: YOUR offset ??? Lets say 12 + NextLoop = 8  YOU USE 20!!

8. Press UP to exit editing that button
9. Press DOWN for 2.5 seconds or more to SAVE and EXIT.
10. Repeat for each function on a different pedal.

Sorry if there are any errors here, I don't think so tho...

Cheers... MArk



On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone walk me through assigning just the basic ( record,overdub,multiply,insert,undo,nextloop,) functions to my  midi foot controller 1-7.



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www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no

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Kind Regards, Mr. Alexander.A.Flockhart Dear Friend, I am Mr. Alexander Flockhart Executive Director and Chief Financial Officer of the Hang Seng Bank Ltd.I have a Secured business suggestion for you. Before the U.S and Iraqi war our client Col. Hosam Hassan who was with the Iraqi forces and also business man made a numbered fixed deposit for 18 calendar months, with a value of Thirty million United State Dollars only in my branch. Upon maturity several notices was sent to him,even during the war early this year. Again after the war another notification was sent and still no response came from him. We later find out that Col. Hosam Hassan along with his wife and only daughter had been killed during the war in a bomb blast that hit their home.What bothers me most is that according to the laws of my country at the expiration 4 years the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds. Against this backdrop, my suggestion to you is that I will like you as a foreigner to stand as the next of kin to Col. Hosam Hassan so that you will be able to receive his funds.I have contacted an attorney that will prepare the necessary document that will back you up as the next of kin to Col.Hosam Hassan.There is no risk involved at all in the matter as we are going to adopt a legalized method and the attorney will prepare all the necessary documents. Please endeavor to observe utmost discretion in all matters concerning this issue.Once the funds have been transferred to your nominated bank account we shall share in the ratio of 60% for me, 40% for you, Should you be interested please send me information,s below, 1. Full names and Age 2. Private phone number 3. Current residential address. And finally after that I shall provide you with more details on this transaction. Your earliest response to this letter will be highly appreciated. Kind Regards, Mr. Alexander.A.Flockhart Dear Friend, I am Mr. Alexander Flockhart Executive Director and Chief Financial Officer of the Hang Seng Bank Ltd.I have a Secured business suggestion for you. Before the U.S and Iraqi war our client Col. Hosam Hassan who was with the Iraqi forces and also business man made a numbered fixed deposit for 18 calendar months, with a value of Thirty million United State Dollars only in my branch. Upon maturity several notices was sent to him,even during the war early this year. Again after the war another notification was sent and still no response came from him. We later find out that Col. Hosam Hassan along with his wife and only daughter had been killed during the war in a bomb blast that hit their home.What bothers me most is that according to the laws of my country at the expiration 4 years the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds. Against this backdrop, my suggestion to you is that I will like you as a foreigner to stand as the next of kin to Col. Hosam Hassan so that you will be able to receive his funds.I have contacted an attorney that will prepare the necessary document that will back you up as the next of kin to Col.Hosam Hassan.There is no risk involved at all in the matter as we are going to adopt a legalized method and the attorney will prepare all the necessary documents. Please endeavor to observe utmost discretion in all matters concerning this issue.Once the funds have been transferred to your nominated bank account we shall share in the ratio of 60% for me, 40% for you, Should you be interested please send me information,s below, 1. Full names and Age 2. Private phone number 3. Current residential address. And finally after that I shall provide you with more details on this transaction. Your earliest response to this letter will be highly appreciated. Kind Regards, Mr. Alexander.A.Flockhart Dear Friend, I am Mr. Alexander Flockhart Executive Director and Chief Financial Officer of the Hang Seng Bank Ltd.I have a Secured business suggestion for you. Before the U.S and Iraqi war our client Col. Hosam Hassan who was with the Iraqi forces and also business man made a numbered fixed deposit for 18 calendar months, with a value of Thirty million United State Dollars only in my branch. Upon maturity several notices was sent to him,even during the war early this year. Again after the war another notification was sent and still no response came from him. We later find out that Col. Hosam Hassan along with his wife and only daughter had been killed during the war in a bomb blast that hit their home.What bothers me most is that according to the laws of my country at the expiration 4 years the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds. Against this backdrop, my suggestion to you is that I will like you as a foreigner to stand as the next of kin to Col. Hosam Hassan so that you will be able to receive his funds.I have contacted an attorney that will prepare the necessary document that will back you up as the next of kin to Col.Hosam Hassan.There is no risk involved at all in the matter as we are going to adopt a legalized method and the attorney will prepare all the necessary documents. Please endeavor to observe utmost discretion in all matters concerning this issue.Once the funds have been transferred to your nominated bank account we shall share in the ratio of 60% for me, 40% for you, Should you be interested please send me information,s below, 1. Full names and Age 2. Private phone number 3. Current residential address. And finally after that I shall provide you with more details on this transaction. Your earliest response to this letter will be highly appreciated. Kind Regards, Mr. Alexander.A.Flockhart Dear Friend, I am Mr. Alexander Flockhart Executive Director and Chief Financial Officer of the Hang Seng Bank Ltd.I have a Secured business suggestion for you. Before the U.S and Iraqi war our client Col. Hosam Hassan who was with the Iraqi forces and also business man made a numbered fixed deposit for 18 calendar months, with a value of Thirty million United State Dollars only in my branch. Upon maturity several notices was sent to him,even during the war early this year. Again after the war another notification was sent and still no response came from him. We later find out that Col. Hosam Hassan along with his wife and only daughter had been killed during the war in a bomb blast that hit their home.What bothers me most is that according to the laws of my country at the expiration 4 years the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds. Against this backdrop, my suggestion to you is that I will like you as a foreigner to stand as the next of kin to Col. Hosam Hassan so that you will be able to receive his funds.I have contacted an attorney that will prepare the necessary document that will back you up as the next of kin to Col.Hosam Hassan.There is no risk involved at all in the matter as we are going to adopt a legalized method and the attorney will prepare all the necessary documents. Please endeavor to observe utmost discretion in all matters concerning this issue.Once the funds have been transferred to your nominated bank account we shall share in the ratio of 60% for me, 40% for you, Should you be interested please send me information,s below, 1. Full names and Age 2. Private phone number 3. Current residential address. And finally after that I shall provide you with more details on this transaction. Your earliest response to this letter will be highly appreciated. Kind Regards, Mr. Alexander.A.Flockhart Dear Friend, I am Mr. Alexander Flockhart Executive Director and Chief Financial Officer of the Hang Seng Bank Ltd.I have a Secured business suggestion for you. Before the U.S and Iraqi war our client Col. Hosam Hassan who was with the Iraqi forces and also business man made a numbered fixed deposit for 18 calendar months, with a value of Thirty million United State Dollars only in my branch. Upon maturity several notices was sent to him,even during the war early this year. Again after the war another notification was sent and still no response came from him. We later find out that Col. Hosam Hassan along with his wife and only daughter had been killed during the war in a bomb blast that hit their home.What bothers me most is that according to the laws of my country at the expiration 4 years the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds. Against this backdrop, my suggestion to you is that I will like you as a foreigner to stand as the next of kin to Col. Hosam Hassan so that you will be able to receive his funds.I have contacted an attorney that will prepare the necessary document that will back you up as the next of kin to Col.Hosam Hassan.There is no risk involved at all in the matter as we are going to adopt a legalized method and the attorney will prepare all the necessary documents. Please endeavor to observe utmost discretion in all matters concerning this issue.Once the funds have been transferred to your nominated bank account we shall share in the ratio of 60% for me, 40% for you, Should you be interested please send me information,s below, 1. Full names and Age 2. Private phone number 3. Current residential address. And finally after that I shall provide you with more details on this transaction. Your earliest response to this letter will be highly appreciated. Kind Regards, Mr. Alexander.A.Flockhart Dear Friend, I am Mr. Alexander Flockhart Executive Director and Chief Financial Officer of the Hang Seng Bank Ltd.I have a Secured business suggestion for you. Before the U.S and Iraqi war our client Col. Hosam Hassan who was with the Iraqi forces and also business man made a numbered fixed deposit for 18 calendar months, with a value of Thirty million United State Dollars only in my branch. Upon maturity several notices was sent to him,even during the war early this year. Again after the war another notification was sent and still no response came from him. We later find out that Col. Hosam Hassan along with his wife and only daughter had been killed during the war in a bomb blast that hit their home.What bothers me most is that according to the laws of my country at the expiration 4 years the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds. Against this backdrop, my suggestion to you is that I will like you as a foreigner to stand as the next of kin to Col. Hosam Hassan so that you will be able to receive his funds.I have contacted an attorney that will prepare the necessary document that will back you up as the next of kin to Col.Hosam Hassan.There is no risk involved at all in the matter as we are going to adopt a legalized method and the attorney will prepare all the necessary documents. Please endeavor to observe utmost discretion in all matters concerning this issue.Once the funds have been transferred to your nominated bank account we shall share in the ratio of 60% for me, 40% for you, Should you be interested please send me information,s below, 1. Full names and Age 2. Private phone number 3. Current residential address. And finally after that I shall provide you with more details on this transaction. Your earliest response to this letter will be highly appreciated. Kind Regards, Mr. Alexander.A.Flockhart From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 21:16:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B53F3C024; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1709 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:16:43 UTC X-Eon-Dm: dm37 X-Eon-Sig: AQMLXdxIlhmLrSUhQQIAAAAB,e8ba461b8a2239959489fcf35a40311d Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--1028879806 From: Richard Roberts Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:48:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:16:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--1028879806 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Well, you're forgiven, Dave You're echoing my thoughts and feelings in your posting. Sometimes, truth just has to be said aloud. Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen "If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC." - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. Harry, My apologies for ever bringing it up. We disagree on how it happened. It does sound too crazy to have happened that way; that's one thing they're counting on. All I can say is: look at the facts. Really. Look into them, more than watching a movie, more than getting news snippets or stuff from youtube. Engineers and physicists have said that the only way those building could fall thusly was a controlled demolition. There's a lot of physical, photographic and chemical evidence for this, as well as political. The setup for the demolition of these buildings would have to have taken place over weeks. Look into PNAC, and what they wanted to do, and what's been done since 9/11. They've carried out almost all of their agenda. They even said it would take a single unifying act to consolidate the people to back it, "like another Pearl Harbor". These people are Bush, Cheney and all of their little buddies who are making billions and billions of dollars off of this war on the backs of young men and women who deserve better than this from our govt. They're fucking killing our next generation for their personal profits...and it all started that day. I have no kids, and plan on keeping it that way, so I have the least invested here, and I can't let it lie. I don't think the "pentagon plane" evaporated, either; I don't think there ever was a plane at the pentagon... Again, forgive me for ever bringing it up. Thanks, Dave --Apple-Mail-3--1028879806 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, you're forgiven, Dave = You're echoing my thoughts and feelings in your posting. Sometimes, = truth just has to be said aloud.=A0

Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS

"We are no longer the same after hearing certain = sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds = organized by another human being: = music."=A0=A0
- Karlheinz = Stockhausen

- Kurt=A0Vonnegut, = Jr.=A0
Harry,

My apologies for ever bringing it up. We disagree on = how it happened. It does sound too crazy to have happened that way; = that's one thing=A0 they're counting on. All I can say is: look at the = facts. Really. Look into them, more than watching a movie, more than = getting news snippets or stuff from youtube. Engineers and physicists = have said that the only way those building could fall thusly was a = controlled demolition. There's a lot of physical, photographic and = chemical evidence for this, as well as political. The setup for the = demolition of these buildings would have to have taken place over weeks. = Look into PNAC, and what they wanted to do, and what's been done since = 9/11. They've carried out almost all of their agenda. They even said it = would take a single unifying act to consolidate the people to back it, = "like another Pearl Harbor". These people are Bush, Cheney and all of = their little buddies who are making billions and billions of dollars off = of this war on the backs of young men and women who deserve better than = this from our govt. They're fucking killing our next generation for = their personal profits...and it all started that day. I have no kids, = and plan on keeping it that way, so I have the least invested here, and = I can't let it lie.

I don't think the "pentagon plane" evaporated, = either; I don't think there ever was a plane at the = pentagon...

Again, forgive me for ever bringing it up.

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stand solutions? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30236_22568938.1217798433700" References: <101191640808031249q79b28d7cr6f6b56ccc9e7f5b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:20:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30236_22568938.1217798433700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i made a stand top out of fiberboard to go across a regular keyboard stand. its pretty portable for most local gigs. paul On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > I use an On-Stage music stand: > > http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--MUPSM7211B > > or two, for the larger amount of stuff you're describing. > > TH > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> I want to start doing more jamming and performing with my laptop >> setup. but of course, the requirements aren't simple >> >> for playing in a band or jamming, at a minimum i need to make sure >> that wherever i have to stand, there will be a place near me where the >> laptop is accessible, visible and off the floor. i could bring a >> portable table with me, but that's kind of big and clunky. >> >> then for other types of performances, i might want to add support for >> a mini-keyboard and pad controller like trigger finger. and ideally >> there'd be some place to hold the audio interface >> >> so i'd lean to some kind of modular system, but the keyboard and pad >> controller are secondary concerns at the moment >> >> >> >> > -- http://twitter.com/pbailey ------=_Part_30236_22568938.1217798433700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
i made a stand top out of fiberboard to go across a regular keyboard stand. its pretty portable for most local gigs.

paul

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com> wrote:
I use an On-Stage music stand:

http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--MUPSM7211B

or two, for the larger amount of stuff you're describing.

TH

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
I want to start doing more jamming and performing with my laptop
setup. but of course, the requirements aren't simple

for playing in a band or jamming, at a minimum i need to make sure
that wherever i have to stand, there will be a place near me where the
laptop is accessible, visible and off the floor.  i could bring a
portable table with me, but that's kind of big and clunky.

then for other types of performances, i might want to add support for
a mini-keyboard and pad controller like trigger finger. and ideally
there'd be some place to hold the audio interface

so i'd lean to some kind of modular system, but the keyboard and pad
controller are secondary concerns at the moment







--
http://twitter.com/pbailey
------=_Part_30236_22568938.1217798433700-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 21:34:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 971BC3C02E; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=PcmVWY9Gd4HbcDfbqqVPhmDwe13ne/KoV55yF8TGo38=; b=n1MDsp+qWeX1h05ZTv+myu6ASn3qZaiCYYXHpBQzZaGhZ670lUBa/bKi6ZJ1xfrSwo ja6ljbs4+5m6QH+PSwnxz+0Cc5X+M6wwkoZ3dptbbflJgTeeRKGa6KbjXf9/uONC/I9s UNJUH84x+OCEw2RoQkI4XufjwKQC5wrswEDx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=gkvU5VuC3/JO+FeDWZY8RZHp3TKh71NQueCWXdzHDeYcg8Rh637oJMtLDY0r1dZROF ht/FYD+FUCT3mKEP2pmk9jCaoda9a78wffi/bMUVkNRwvk590EHs2OEftS5VK5IhEavs dLbpCE6akev3CS/BxeXWFmKx0Guy6//Z6EGDw= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808031434q17e0d095w97cd614950446ee2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:34:44 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: Dear Andy, did I find a edp bug? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21518_4213013.1217799284823" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4b3b7541d22757bf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:34:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21518_4213013.1217799284823 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear Andy, did I find a edp bug? Try this (geez i hope its not my machine) With one pedal programmed to be the ludicrous SUSUNrounded Insert ( +29) Make a record, overdub, play, whatever, use the SUSUNroundedInsert button if you like.. THEN Stop, As in LONG PRESS of Record... Shouldnt that wipe that loop memory? OK NOW PRESS SUSUNrounded Insert button again? Does it play now? Why? Is it meant to...? m. Is this mode only for multiplying out a very short snip by insert lengths? Does it have a Use in a long cycle? -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_21518_4213013.1217799284823 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Dear Andy, did I find a edp bug?

Try this (geez i hope its not my machine)
With one pedal programmed to be the ludicrous SUSUNrounded Insert ( +29)

Make a record, overdub, play, whatever, use the SUSUNroundedInsert  button if you like.. THEN Stop, As in LONG PRESS of Record... Shouldnt that wipe that loop memory?

OK NOW PRESS SUSUNrounded Insert button again? Does it play now? Why? Is it meant to...?

m.


Is this mode only for multiplying out a very short snip by insert lengths? Does it have a Use in a long cycle?




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www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 21:54:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AFBA3C029; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mkuGd/alKw2s+KWNJGN4tG7CStPMSQxYFMIebDeBbkc=; b=hdDh8aILH65CZMk1yVSpADQuTP2J9Vqg7LIV1oaMLtxDXaCfIsMOYVDIVGNgZj8KJM h3PwXIpoEuTkbfQErk992NkdEZFV0civGYAOwOJ1NQxyMJDjXFUIBJKgEP9VIcckuwQi 8IiXIHVg/zubwz20ZpqRh51Naac79EIbyG90k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=O2ncpt+vCbaIkteDC5WIVp3Y0DzkzVeTNrLt8a7SmVU3MYxCI4Awkf+gTeQu2fYrht AqXykMTjO4MiRnEbf447/4xsh/hlML6LXN+plB+5etqOA/aK/yTG3tJaCM+5txgpKv5P lzIUHEpwrx5AGA5yxCCa2LyMgzT0Id4QuoCks= Message-ID: <588ce11d0808031454h2ddc31d9m5f6391b17962b778@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:54:30 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: laptop joystick footcontrol In-Reply-To: <017a01c8f57e$4c2b4e10$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <836401.71621.qm@web26204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <017a01c8f57e$4c2b4e10$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Tilmann, That foot controller is very cool! How difficult was it to build? Did you run into any difficulties? What did you use for the foot switches? What expression pedal are you using and are you happy with it? Sorry to pepper you with questions, but I'm thinking seriously of trying my hand at build one. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > when travelling i use a laptop setup. > here is a picture of my box w/switches: > http://www.dehnhard.com/picture > my electronic gear is 100 percent hand luggage now! > > for controlling mobius (inside bidule) i have built a controller based on > this joystick control chip: > http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/ > > well, it's sexy to have your whole gear in a bag you can carry on board. > and astonishingly security has NEVER asked what all these cables and buttons > are for. i guess the flute in the same bag gives it away... > > but computers are risky. > once i had a virus the day before the gig (and i was in india and there was > no german windows recovery disc in sight...). > another time the laptop started to fire key commands at mobius randomly > about 20 min before the gig, probably due to high temperature and moisture. > i stopped that by getting rid of all key commands and go foot control only. > call me a pessimist, but i also expect my laptop to fall one day. > accidents happen and stages are not the safest places on earth - cables and > people and quick soundchecks... > > as per suggested, i will get together a survival kit for travelling: > an identical harddrive with the whole music setup already installed, a > windows cd and a cd with all the progs i use. > > keeping the fingers crossed - tilmann > > -- Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 22:04:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BD293C02D; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=1Jff8xUD2IcQNcU0rN8RICZ42htb+dKxw4yKaMnDPI0=; b=AamQYsJ3DBacib+CEovJswD+YNzg4sF89dzwow2WYQXAhvMGyFHUqLWM3V4ZaqxG/F hohi4NIJApaKneWYK3n18sRU3Ui1hpizMVv2zh+jZtxb/CUAgYV2gpSXRz1Hhf9gKjsp 1agROyEeMbFEMDxThIJTcFEkhQq0RXsTUu2kk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=wiqKicPMZB0ClshmVd8XS2woxWxS917Y+N9O7al346e0gR6GvTK/HObPEDxNjctk+Q 3O+Fe7dBgUwip4/uR0lG5g9R/YUn2JE3ciWe5TyfVpk7uiSHXWVgWGY+bL4IUqdktonC pIvYvyD+EvmBBlXyHSgwhx54bfbsSwCFFHgdA= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 00:04:14 +0200 From: Vocaloop.com Sender: vocaloop@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stand solutions? In-Reply-To: <55c7bc950808031420n17c87ebdu5763bd8539ed71bd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <101191640808031249q79b28d7cr6f6b56ccc9e7f5b@mail.gmail.com> <55c7bc950808031420n17c87ebdu5763bd8539ed71bd@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6bff006d5ee0fae0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:04:16 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:20 PM, paul bailey wrote: > i made a stand top out of fiberboard to go across a regular keyboard stand. > its pretty portable for most local gigs. > > paul And i made a stand top out of cardboard to go across a very lightweight video stand. its extremely portable for all gigs. ;-) Grtz. Sanne From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 22:37:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 321F83C032; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=No01oU4/k7OaYCu7LXbo9Frpo47c2povAtt3q8x7wGM=; b=bRjfQ7bOUAUt7A2HjHMs9sjizqGT9BwMZ3LEjxL90U/CAfB/1lhMi1fKnLpz4sCtza eay4293TaDWogTPSHY0EIxnApZzzm5ySs2YJck9UulrOdrT4mT9rd4NDat7z/cfy+UMy 8kkuxfyZ9gXDoiuZ+UWd6sPLIBDNKSphkgCpU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=QL2M3cx6J7IAT+KWNGCXa+0a8+UfHKXofT+U051ci3TafflrIDJwkpbsIu7kPYjRlx yh9TxXISamerF9ZVsXeXbmTVn9bqz3hYu+EnrA3hSIwrZtlpsSqFhwZIg0Zr7ttO84TM h74SJMU0hvZ+EIEhj4YIGKBNcEI49PBv4KJ88= Message-ID: <588ce11d0808031537v22431f20od3f3cc7ee9574b02@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:37:26 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stand solutions? In-Reply-To: <280272959-1217794310-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-549047530-@bxe192.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <101191640808031249q79b28d7cr6f6b56ccc9e7f5b@mail.gmail.com> <280272959-1217794310-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-549047530-@bxe192.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Resent-Message-ID: <3ADniB.A.Bi.nMjlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, the instand looks cool. http://www.instand.com/ On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:12 PM, wrote: > Instand. Check it warren. I swear by it. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Warren Sirota" > > Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:49:45 > To: > Subject: Stand solutions? > > > I want to start doing more jamming and performing with my laptop > setup. but of course, the requirements aren't simple > > for playing in a band or jamming, at a minimum i need to make sure > that wherever i have to stand, there will be a place near me where the > laptop is accessible, visible and off the floor. i could bring a > portable table with me, but that's kind of big and clunky. > > then for other types of performances, i might want to add support for > a mini-keyboard and pad controller like trigger finger. and ideally > there'd be some place to hold the audio interface > > so i'd lean to some kind of modular system, but the keyboard and pad > controller are secondary concerns at the moment > > you folks found any stand solutions that you can recommend or diss? > > -- Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 22:59:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12DC33C036; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=BSV/Cu3HU35t5w0CUeaRexlMOLmYT/Yfj94K2RdHDHo=; b=NuQgbCCoJRq+5Z1ycFOt/cvuyNpts7nbIrwUBUAF+ybQ/6dA8yoUDzrNtUUB+IHNsX TrOOwMEK9F0at+7MoMD9roSqd8rgSSW/lq/2TQ2+D6K907zzHSrq4GhzBiz9IUiW8+LD nRpoHR/p3c5qpoqCQZCR3JHKOxeB56PHxtoKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=KqdHO0FZP4mr6sYdWh0n/AlNhXG1F3SB/iKl3iHaU4tOhJ7oE1KIjQBoBkkuaN6hhp ce1y4FOttUrYA45VbgUqF0YHPNPrXlUuKeDNjoq5quFhLKPKB/gwYgAd36L5+1feFSfa qswit2AwYbel8gcpZWkk4RqK87vDlCwz5/HCo= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:59:57 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: MacBook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:59:58 +0000 (UTC) A non-conspiracy-related question... I recently got a MacBook (of the non-Pro variety) that I am running Windows XP on via Boot Camp. I am currently using the built-in sound card and am not able to get the latency down as low as I wanted. I would like to be able to run Reaktor and B4 inside Ableton with an undetectable amount of latency. Is anyone doing this? Can you recommend a very fast (Firewire?) sound card for a setup like this? I was thinking about an Echo Audiofire; anyone using this with a MacBook? I hope to be able to add Hammond organ sounds to my jazz looping act, as well as the big band synthesizer with Reaktor: http://www.marksmart.net/sounddesign/windsounds/reaktorbigband/reaktorbigband.html Let me know what you think, thanks. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 23:09:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D2D53C038; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ePC-paLKAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=4ZrDD1uN_pHlSTI-YWUA:9 a=snDonfhJWt5DjmelEQQ1-GU6WusA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <35928309-4F9D-4872-A572-1E42B41A6308@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: MacBook Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:09:49 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:09:54 +0000 (UTC) I have a Motu Ultralite and use similar instruments through Live with no noticable latency. Motu has a new Ultralite coming out with very good effects (reverb, eq, compression). This is intriquing as it would relieve even more on cpu strain. But I don't use boot camp. Could this be an issue too? I don't know. On Aug 3, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > A non-conspiracy-related question... > > I recently got a MacBook (of the non-Pro variety) that I am running > Windows XP on via Boot Camp. I am currently using the built-in sound > card and am not able to get the latency down as low as I wanted. I > would like to be able to run Reaktor and B4 inside Ableton with an > undetectable amount of latency. Is anyone doing this? Can you > recommend a very fast (Firewire?) sound card for a setup like this? I > was thinking about an Echo Audiofire; anyone using this with a > MacBook? > > I hope to be able to add Hammond organ sounds to my jazz looping act, > as well as the big band synthesizer with Reaktor: > > http://www.marksmart.net/sounddesign/windsounds/reaktorbigband/ > reaktorbigband.html > > Let me know what you think, thanks. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 23:21:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 442EA3C040; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:23:54 -0500 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-reply-to: <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:21:02 +0000 (UTC) > Where are the rest of hte films that they confiscated form the > surrounding gas stations, etc? Why won't they release them? > etc. etc. Well, isn't it obvious? For the same reasons they aren't releasing the classified documents from Area 51 or the first (ahem..."supposed") moon landing. In other news, I saw Elvis today. He was hanging out with Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison. Most people don't know this, but they've got a nifty little trio going. You might get lucky and catch them at little clubs off the beaten path--under an assumed name, naturally. Jeff p.s. The earth *is* flat. I know for sure because I saw it with my own two eyes when the aliens took me for a guided tour of our galaxy in their spaceship. And, yes, they *did* build the pyramids, but they claim no responsibility whatsoever for the flooding of Atlantis. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 23:58:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E15C63C03D; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:53:16 -0700 References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:58:06 +0000 (UTC) I suppose this kind of comment is meant to be funny, right? Sort of an elbow in the ribs for all the heads-on-straight skeptics to chuckle knowingly over while gazing down upon all the credulous ignoramuses...? Or is it more of a "Let's all just have a good giggle and admit this is silly!" kind of thing, meant to stem a growing discord? Whatever the motive, it seems like either the most insulting kind of argumentative dishonesty or the most simplistic possible refusal to question any Official Story. Or in short, the first cast stone... In any event, it's the first comment in this otherwise interesting (to me, even if VERY OT) and so far serious thread to raise my hackles. Care to take it back, Jeff? Otherwise, what WAS the point? dc On Aug 3, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > >> Where are the rest of hte films that they confiscated form the >> surrounding gas stations, etc? Why won't they release them? >> > > etc. etc. > > Well, isn't it obvious? For the same reasons they aren't releasing > the classified documents from Area 51 or the first > (ahem..."supposed") moon landing. > > In other news, I saw Elvis today. He was hanging out with Jimi > Hendrix and Jim Morrison. Most people don't know this, but they've > got a nifty little trio going. You might get lucky and catch them at > little clubs off the beaten path--under an assumed name, naturally. > > Jeff > > p.s. The earth *is* flat. I know for sure because I saw it with my > own two eyes when the aliens took me for a guided tour of our galaxy > in their spaceship. And, yes, they *did* build the pyramids, but > they claim no responsibility whatsoever for the flooding of Atlantis. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 00:10:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A53873C03F; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 00:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=aKJ4+lneXGE8CNiXZKjm6NsVcLf665bltFX3Wf5quwI=; b=KX5SSl33QKyrQIKp9VZL2JmG7mpMVA7/DS2e1D0Q4YwvE8Cn/GLRcOwVfJjvljVuAX 4yw8R9SePWBXfdh25FR9ftFNusn7CelrUZ+zFmppsTkm5+W1MRnpVeg6uV+SuN+GgrmW yxcMfUxh/ZMuycLP+CWyFzXPoj0qqBIHA/YO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=IHHaboNVquiVTOiLqZ+xysONXiaFFFCDuCH9TRVsKaK2XfZs7bJknvqn0UjBT2fDLi Td2qDKFE2ElbJCtoC6sDhlTrcAaGauZfGe4nBhkG2S2bm3PENUWfp/pRx7LuRpqDogNA qVhmp3+fajKNl/8Tjifnf1pyDFCjGb5UJwEd0= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:10:54 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: Looping Dilemna 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_28492_3880259.1217808654736" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 00:10:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_28492_3880259.1217808654736 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I am synced out to a drum machine and so when i do a phrase then press the 2nd record the drums come in with me but if i loop a long phrase it makes the tempo REALLY SLOW. How can i loop more than a one bar phrase without the ehoplex trying to sync at a tempo like twenty do i HAVE to set the one bar and then multiply? Or is it all in my Qauntize/8thscycle setting? ------=_Part_28492_3880259.1217808654736 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I am synced out to a drum machine and so when i do a phrase then press the 2nd record the drums come in with me but if i loop a long phrase it makes the tempo REALLY SLOW. How can i loop more than a one bar phrase without the ehoplex trying to sync at a tempo like twenty do i HAVE to set the one bar and then multiply? Or is it all in my Qauntize/8thscycle setting?
------=_Part_28492_3880259.1217808654736-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 00:31:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A3B33C045; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 00:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:34:30 -0500 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 00:31:50 +0000 (UTC) > I suppose this kind of comment is meant to be funny, right? I suppose. > > Sort of an elbow in the ribs for all the heads-on-straight skeptics > to chuckle knowingly over while gazing down upon all the credulous > ignoramuses...? There's some of that involved, yes. > > Or is it more of a "Let's all just have a good giggle and admit > this is silly!" kind of thing, meant to stem a growing discord? But more of this. > > Whatever the motive, it seems like either the most insulting kind > of argumentative dishonesty I don't see how it's dishonest. I believe Elvis is dead, the earth is round, that no one has been abducted by aliens, and that Jesus and the Virgin Mary have never appeared in the clouds, or on the sides of interstate overpasses, let alone in grilled cheese sandwiches. I also believe that extremist Islamic religious groups who are very, very angry about US imperialist policies in the area of the world in which they live flew two airplanes into the WTC--and another one into the Pentagon. The full "truth" about what (or perhaps how it) happened may be a bit hazy, but it's not completely opaque. In short, apply Occam's razor, folks. > or the most simplistic possible refusal to question any Official > Story. Questioning official stories is one thing. Crackpot left wing (or right wing, for that matter) conspiracy theories are quite another. > Care to take it back, Jeff? Otherwise, what WAS the point? No, it's out there, so I can't take it back. Let's just say I fully support and agree with Harry, and I chose to express that point of view in a different fashion. Sorry if it ruffled your feathers too much. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 00:35:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3138F3C047; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 00:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1854 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:35:22 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.5 X-EN-IMPSID: y04T1Z00206ZpSa0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:01:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie...(Skull and Bones) In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808031246l271847b3y39d71e343dda7124@mail.gmail.co m> References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808030409n76f2053cvf30d0f80e2f8bcb5@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031246l271847b3y39d71e343dda7124@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20080804003522.DDB333C03C@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 00:35:23 +0000 (UTC) The popular mechanics 911 debunking page referenced by Dave: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html At 2008.08.03 12:46 PM, Dave wrote: >And thanks for that pilot's page, whoever sent that. Good stuff >there. I also looked at the pop mech debunking page. It looks to me >like they do a good job of avoiding the questions, put up pictures >that are contrary to the questions they're trying to answer, etc >(ie: the pic that "answers" the question regarding the puffs of >smoke that preceded the fall of the building. And they don't explain >how it fell at the speed of gravity. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 01:15:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8040E3C047; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=5ELLga+hf9XGTuoskJdOgFR6ywp01o2yNFvo9x6btQ0=; b=mWNRZVtheDlu6WXUPBGp/Eq4GZ42UWXRs2H1UpTdXId5BIRNcAeOJbCDBRvbDN+PNj K+3RUIFdXjqyiEYMbg1SpUjHsCIn+SJLrHhIJW0yrrk5DfxYbYBFfXMZcIikqVryKYvd qqNpbOa8rSjzpAuXhAr+QCaDdAniiqz9R2UjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=I8nJKTzmI52cfs7Q2PQ9yUHfxd7YKAQjvi0C00bLHRe/aVXLWqItBfpSyu4EHZxqgO zjIJRdQoWw+ve9IsoQQ5vstol8vUH2q+mm2kxCDYZDkxShP+q4rzLRCQzTjvvEZyKntm VEJ5nYTcXn3DnzTYgvsAPPg46qrCXS3mRNVSo= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:15:23 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808031141w35bb9fc1y2c427771bfdeb77e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808031141w35bb9fc1y2c427771bfdeb77e@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:15:25 +0000 (UTC) > I don't think the "pentagon plane" evaporated, either; I don't think there > ever was a plane at the pentagon... Hmm...then what happened to Flight 77? I watched the whole video, still not buying it. I am suspicious of people who say gigantic conspiracies can be kept a secret for decades if not hundreds of years, when a secret like the atomic bomb couldn't be kept a secret from the Soviets for more than a few years. Especially if the people make a video with all kinds of bent facts, quick edits, sound bytes that are not identified, etc. I think the Popular Mechanics article was very well done and can't be just brushed off as not addressing the issues. In case people haven't looked at this page yet... http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/index.html WARNING, there are very graphic images on this page. But pieces of a jet engine are clearly visible. I don't have a problem with the idea that a large jet engine crashing into a wall of concrete at 300 mph would lose its structural integrity. :) It links to here: http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html This whole conspiracy idea to me sounds too much like the idea that the moon landings were faked, which is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 01:17:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 719603C048; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5026 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:17:08 UTC Message-Id: From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:17:02 -0700 References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for replying, Jeff. I meant to ruffle back, I admit:) And it wasn't too much. Just too typical. My feeling is simply that it's not honest to lump ALL of these conspiracy theories together with the 9/11 questions while crying "Occam's Razor!," as if any other reaction is uninformed idiocy from folks who will no doubt have to go look up what "Awkum" means anyway. I don't have any axe to grind re: 9/11, except that I've watched a few videos about all the contradictory evidence and the one thing that is obvious is that not all doubters are crackpots or are even taking either a left-wing or a right-wing POV. They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- fuel fire. And no such buildings that HAVE collapsed by accident have ever fallen so precisely in upon themselves. Etc. Etc. How does Occam apply here, then? I don't know, but I defer to engineers over Official Explainers. It's certainly intellectually cheap, if not dishonest, to invoke Elvis and Roswell and bail, when you're simply unwilling to even admit that there are seriously disturbing questions about the whole sorry affair. History, even very clearly American History, is replete with ignominious behavior by very powerful, very duplicitous and quite heedlessly self-serving folks, and it's not enough for me to trump any possibility of criminality of this sort by simply pointing at terrorists, who by definition MUST be more "evil" than any American in Power, while throwing in a bit of "Crack-pot" name-calling for good measure. I find it insulting, actually, as well as clear evidence of no stronger arguments being available from, or any actual inquiring having been done by, the thrower. That's all... dc On Aug 3, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > >> I suppose this kind of comment is meant to be funny, right? > > I suppose. > >> >> Sort of an elbow in the ribs for all the heads-on-straight skeptics >> to chuckle knowingly over while gazing down upon all the credulous >> ignoramuses...? > > There's some of that involved, yes. > >> >> Or is it more of a "Let's all just have a good giggle and admit >> this is silly!" kind of thing, meant to stem a growing discord? > > But more of this. > >> >> Whatever the motive, it seems like either the most insulting kind >> of argumentative dishonesty > > I don't see how it's dishonest. I believe Elvis is dead, the earth > is round, that no one has been abducted by aliens, and that Jesus > and the Virgin Mary have never appeared in the clouds, or on the > sides of interstate overpasses, let alone in grilled cheese > sandwiches. I also believe that extremist Islamic religious groups > who are very, very angry about US imperialist policies in the area > of the world in which they live flew two airplanes into the WTC--and > another one into the Pentagon. The full "truth" about what (or > perhaps how it) happened may be a bit hazy, but it's not completely > opaque. In short, apply Occam's razor, folks. > >> or the most simplistic possible refusal to question any Official >> Story. > > Questioning official stories is one thing. Crackpot left wing (or > right wing, for that matter) conspiracy theories are quite another. > >> Care to take it back, Jeff? Otherwise, what WAS the point? > > No, it's out there, so I can't take it back. Let's just say I fully > support and agree with Harry, and I chose to express that point of > view in a different fashion. > > Sorry if it ruffled your feathers too much. > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 01:23:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B96743C045; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ThnnmXvz+pOu1SiZwImtFgIcTgl1UHHCh6CIHzsx8h4=; b=pyEQGIImtj8Qm5UF0pa0TKCcz0PwV+/CTnETaxCkQP4GiBbfftKbUlcui8hDpYp+Fp T/u1it0uBVc0vSvDyw5KhurokKa3susAVPDHZKmaoLie5Dj+odPPg70Z+FmkLvA73ozv odJydqAoprO5fWR/MKXAfJm2piZqLFonZobnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IoaeHJHkk2yTXQ582WQq1Wzw33wPBt5cMRoJHsTYoqw4G82X8WazjQp6PIAdzDTfcS Kt26mr61gFSa8IiKW2KV7KwysxKEk+METNX+UzKWB3jHklkvs18CkB1ClwX1mEVo30YF EJdrvu27Sbo1izfWzPteKev/ZdSmBJZL4dJMM= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:23:33 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:23:34 +0000 (UTC) > They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such > apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history > has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much > hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- > fuel fire. I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as the ones at the WTC? -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 01:40:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA07F3C040; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:39:58 -0700 References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:40:00 +0000 (UTC) http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/b7/history.html I watched a DVD produced by these folks, I believe: http://www.ae911truth.org/ It was at a much more outraged friend's house. I came in a skeptic (but not someone who is generally impressed by previous Official Inquiries by Those in Power) and left very troubled. I'm feeling that the most compelling reason to dismiss the doubters is that it's just too bloody awful to contemplate the implications... dc On Aug 3, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Mark Smart wrote: >> They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such >> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history >> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much >> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- >> fuel fire. > > I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these > other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as > the ones at the WTC? > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 02:13:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7F223C037; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dYz849F5_6wA:10 a=MhWjL4uRlvEA:10 a=nMuPrrrMAAAA:8 a=ePC-paLKAAAA:8 a=RTeLUbOaAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=T6dv4WkkdYZjfmjy1pwA:9 a=olRd2EcLlW96-2l3wBEA:7 a=JVCJ5HtQfyY_64lO2uXI9P-bpbwA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:12:57 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:13:06 +0000 (UTC) The building 7 issue seems to be the single biggest craw in the official story. On Aug 3, 2008, at 9:39 PM, David Coffin wrote: > http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/b7/history.html > > I watched a DVD produced by these folks, I believe: > http://www.ae911truth.org/ > > It was at a much more outraged friend's house. I came in a skeptic > (but not someone who is generally impressed by previous Official > Inquiries by Those in Power) and left very troubled. I'm feeling > that the most compelling reason to dismiss the doubters is that > it's just too bloody awful to contemplate the implications... > dc > > > > On Aug 3, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Mark Smart wrote: >>> They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such >>> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in >>> history >>> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much >>> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- >>> fuel fire. >> >> I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these >> other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as >> the ones at the WTC? >> >> -- >> Mark Smart >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >> http://www.marksmart.net >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 02:16:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8356C3C039; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=nBSFnm/peU8DNNTS9j+DPLNGndnDly84lFu+y3NyCGM=; b=xhmA+f9qIz3+IV9iHsG7N3uQA979GPw1m8v/DVaop/FguUi+Gnvmm8LnYlCwdA0mgP W2Ry0TGZq+DESLCoTO7falmliHuiG87hD7gGYzXlYwCgrz7eObwUVAmUdECxCKqcFfxA +syBJNc2UcoiSWUxP8kKohRFIOkwNxBjhaFDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dGAUen1uzIpxqxXwNyw70np8g6OhtYJ9XqmLZ0B6d1zr7QmbAXoF3W6WXYki3veJ4s NRt/1fs3NCj4KN5w/nyPHXc21tYPPPnwzirZT0kKxiIKcqQn9ue7n8hcqHErtv4Oc6UL ImbLW7XrYkJVvlUFw2lB26QbBdlUUHqqXg0KQ= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:16:09 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: No Laptops, No Conspiracies, JUST LOOPING MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19934_727196.1217816169138" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:16:10 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19934_727196.1217816169138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay ... it was a rainy night in an old church in Somerville (Boston) and the fans made a lot of noise (no air conditioning), but here are two files from the performance on Saturday night, featuring Chinapainting (Daryl and Jim), Tim Nelson, myself and the only non-looper in the bunch, Rob Byrd. If you weren't there, you missed out on an amazing evening. The two files I've posted are self-explanatory ... http://72.85.228.116/audio/TheNave/ ...enjoy the break from the OT. Best, Dennis ------=_Part_19934_727196.1217816169138 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Okay ... it was a rainy night in an old church in Somerville (Boston) and the fans made a lot of noise (no air conditioning), but here are two files from the performance on Saturday night, featuring Chinapainting (Daryl and Jim), Tim Nelson, myself and the only non-looper in the bunch, Rob Byrd. If you weren't there, you missed out on an amazing evening.

The two files I've posted are self-explanatory ...

http://72.85.228.116/audio/TheNave/

...enjoy the break from the OT.

Best,

Dennis
------=_Part_19934_727196.1217816169138-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 02:16:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8C413C03E; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 607 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:16:55 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:06:04 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112046362010103f6a9d163d791708b01298d442a14b067b44c6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:16:55 +0000 (UTC) I have an alternative theory to present: In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck bomb in the corner of the parking garage. This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the bombers were ignorant of the building's design. The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility that there may be a situation where the buildings could become unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan. The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to implode them after the planes hit in September 2001. The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on "raging fires". -Chuck Zwicky > > They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such >> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history >> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much >> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- >> fuel fire. > >I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these >other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as >the ones at the WTC? > >-- >Mark Smart >http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >http://www.marksmart.net -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 02:34:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D92A53C045; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=O3THMZkjL7js/0Ews6VGXWR1dnBLuBAyTjWHlhaYmB4=; b=OVVBs2t/xp1JemFDTgcxFWebOoJo1AYO7Y2Oc/dr8JDCTK83W8dBEvlv6p8XcHIpxp 1aKfDecsfmodQXtIMGT1dfdUqv5Ub/difSDlK6pui0gBUOj2M392hNs5u7yE0u4oP84q 6ItBS+m66mQ11k2dRY0zBkrRLthbySBtkk5EA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=X32LsDKHEc+A8EQILbqBUf8fW9wtOWyowl5h0Or6bjBJVgG0bDs3NsuVGNE+BEReJV IME6rg45iqugl4I8Vgxho/d1Iu3o45f9rVNN2qcUAlX+q0vrkT6MJPAmh8XJwRPPEo8n EiohtkOciLA04T2pIj5po77of/dC6g4ofprxM= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:34:51 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:34:53 +0000 (UTC) One of the many problems with the controlled demolition hypothesis...in every video I've ever seen of a controlled demolition of a building, there is a series of extremely loud and usually visible explosions preceding the collapse....BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...I don't see or hear this in the WTC collapse videos. On 8/3/08, Charles Zwicky wrote: > > I have an alternative theory to present: > > In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck > bomb in the corner of the parking garage. > > This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the bombers > were ignorant of the building's design. > > The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility > that there may be a situation where the buildings could become > unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and > cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan. > > The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition > sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to > implode them after the planes hit in September 2001. > > The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is > preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on > "raging fires". > > -Chuck Zwicky > > > >> > They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such >>> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history >>> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much >>> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- >>> fuel fire. >> >>I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these >>other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as >>the ones at the WTC? >> >>-- >>Mark Smart >>http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >>http://www.marksmart.net > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 02:43:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F1693C04A; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <440B3403-BCC5-49E3-B7E7-69B06716ABAC@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:43:03 -0700 References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Seems reasonable. But then one must consider that "the powers" chose to: Not admit to this. Pull the trigger in such as way as to add villainy to the terrorists crime (presumably because it would benefit their own political motives) rather than from any concern for the city, the citizens or the firefighters. Made every effort afterwards to keep this from being discovered. Still stinks. dc On Aug 3, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > I have an alternative theory to present: > > In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck > bomb in the corner of the parking garage. > > This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the > bombers were ignorant of the building's design. > > The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility > that there may be a situation where the buildings could become > unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and > cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan. > > The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition > sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to > implode them after the planes hit in September 2001. > > The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is > preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on > "raging fires". > > -Chuck Zwicky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 02:50:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 785713C044; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dYz849F5_6wA:10 a=MhWjL4uRlvEA:10 a=Pse1q2_TY9d06Eh6OU0A:9 a=C1VTb8TyRnXuDiMvFz4v1f329PIA:4 a=a_lYcm-iImQA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <440B3403-BCC5-49E3-B7E7-69B06716ABAC@earthlink.net> References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> <440B3403-BCC5-49E3-B7E7-69B06716ABAC@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4B9EB71E-04FB-4CA1-A00D-F0F44284B078@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:50:50 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Unfortunately, all who question are lumped together as one mass group of crazys. I for one don't know what happened. I have been made aware of enough peculiarities in the official story to make me question it. On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:43 PM, David Coffin wrote: > Seems reasonable. > > But then one must consider that "the powers" chose to: > > Not admit to this. > Pull the trigger in such as way as to add villainy to the > terrorists crime (presumably because it would benefit their own > political motives) rather than from any concern for the city, the > citizens or the firefighters. > Made every effort afterwards to keep this from being discovered. > > Still stinks. > dc > > > On Aug 3, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >> I have an alternative theory to present: >> >> In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a >> truck bomb in the corner of the parking garage. >> >> This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the >> bombers were ignorant of the building's design. >> >> The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility >> that there may be a situation where the buildings could become >> unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever >> and cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan. >> >> The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition >> sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to >> implode them after the planes hit in September 2001. >> >> The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is >> preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on >> "raging fires". >> >> -Chuck Zwicky > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 02:51:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E89E73C049; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dYz849F5_6wA:10 a=MhWjL4uRlvEA:10 a=ePC-paLKAAAA:8 a=d3s395feAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=tbgsM8GB7BelGbVdJxAA:9 a=3-3VSBdnJyp8euR3fyIA:7 a=ZxZDGD057zoiDOaFYB3tbMyKkQoA:4 a=v6MMM96S_sUA:10 a=ufO146cb3fEA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:51:36 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Still, how does a building not hit by a plane, with a small fire in one part, completely collapse on itself? On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:34 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > One of the many problems with the controlled demolition > hypothesis...in every video I've ever seen of a controlled demolition > of a building, there is a series of extremely loud and usually visible > explosions preceding the collapse....BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...I > don't see or hear this in the WTC collapse videos. > > On 8/3/08, Charles Zwicky wrote: >> >> I have an alternative theory to present: >> >> In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck >> bomb in the corner of the parking garage. >> >> This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the bombers >> were ignorant of the building's design. >> >> The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility >> that there may be a situation where the buildings could become >> unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and >> cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan. >> >> The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition >> sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to >> implode them after the planes hit in September 2001. >> >> The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is >> preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on >> "raging fires". >> >> -Chuck Zwicky >> >> >> >>>> They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such >>>> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in >>>> history >>>> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much >>>> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a >>>> jet- >>>> fuel fire. >>> >>> I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these >>> other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as >>> the ones at the WTC? >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Smart >>> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >>> http://www.marksmart.net >> >> >> -- >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net >> >> > > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 03:03:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8131F3C047; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 03:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=NyW1qbvRGAhcebc6P0NECifTTbh1+dHxOJdf6WRWuFA=; b=VedEY13ht6W2UUYOV9tJlcEnqR8ZcTKYBtbzA7bdBfH/kuN1cRa5/3Cf5ONX+aeChN gMF8Yj5+pV8viAioCgBmge1yuHwA33eoNP3M0/EA0f6aldvmGl749BUorRDBX4sWlXON yd0mUOltB1D3tZs6NJBhQWaR+ybMtluGWrzHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=XEQo3xpU+fLiwJyAwgRnFNzavcff6jvF5iBsK2j1cQ6BZciXKHfEto9ErWK2qEKz7t ui2vg0kL/8GdXPwByXw5HkpWz46IFxXEh41AkNR9/7Adixfs+cRwWYjcsrLxY2TYenBf FPsOW2CGr2kWWYHLPi+g/WJhrSIU1xWJLYa1s= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:03:00 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 03:03:02 +0000 (UTC) No loud bangs in the WTC7 collapse videos, either. On 8/3/08, Chris Sewell wrote: > Still, how does a building not hit by a plane, with a small fire in > one part, completely collapse on itself? > On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:34 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > >> One of the many problems with the controlled demolition >> hypothesis...in every video I've ever seen of a controlled demolition >> of a building, there is a series of extremely loud and usually visible >> explosions preceding the collapse....BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...I >> don't see or hear this in the WTC collapse videos. >> >> On 8/3/08, Charles Zwicky wrote: >>> >>> I have an alternative theory to present: >>> >>> In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck >>> bomb in the corner of the parking garage. >>> >>> This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the bombers >>> were ignorant of the building's design. >>> >>> The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility >>> that there may be a situation where the buildings could become >>> unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and >>> cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan. >>> >>> The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition >>> sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to >>> implode them after the planes hit in September 2001. >>> >>> The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is >>> preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on >>> "raging fires". >>> >>> -Chuck Zwicky >>> >>> >>> >>>>> They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such >>>>> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in >>>>> history >>>>> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much >>>>> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a >>>>> jet- >>>>> fuel fire. >>>> >>>> I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these >>>> other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as >>>> the ones at the WTC? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark Smart >>>> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >>>> http://www.marksmart.net >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ... >>> http://www.zmix.net >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mark Smart >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >> http://www.marksmart.net >> > > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 03:07:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DACA3C050; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 03:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:55:25 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112046362010103f6a9d52ab03768a6f602e5251948d90a1030a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 03:07:38 +0000 (UTC) There are multiple reports of pre-collapse explosions.... >One of the many problems with the controlled demolition >hypothesis...in every video I've ever seen of a controlled demolition >of a building, there is a series of extremely loud and usually visible >explosions preceding the collapse....BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...I >don't see or hear this in the WTC collapse videos. > >On 8/3/08, Charles Zwicky wrote: >> >> I have an alternative theory to present: >> >> In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck >> bomb in the corner of the parking garage. >> >> This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the bombers >> were ignorant of the building's design. >> >> The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility >> that there may be a situation where the buildings could become >> unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and >> cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan. >> >> The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition >> sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to >> implode them after the planes hit in September 2001. >> >> The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is >> preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on >> "raging fires". >> >> -Chuck Zwicky >> >> >> >>> > They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such >>>> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history >>>> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much >>>> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- >>>> fuel fire. >>> >>>I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these >>>other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as >>>the ones at the WTC? >>> >>>-- >>>Mark Smart >>>http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >>>http://www.marksmart.net >> >> >> -- >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net >> >> > > >-- >Mark Smart >http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >http://www.marksmart.net -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 03:14:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58A223C050; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 03:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:17:43 -0500 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <2CFDE976-B3B7-451E-ACF0-AB3EF52AF7AF@midway.uchicago.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 03:14:53 +0000 (UTC) > There are multiple reports of pre-collapse explosions.... In the mass chaos that ensued, there are surely multiple (and contradictory) reports of all kinds of things. It's tough enough to sort out the conflicting eye-witness reports of something as seemingly simple as a robbery or a car accident. I can't imagine trying to sort through all of the reports following the explosions and collapse of the towers. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 03:24:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9775E3C052; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 03:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KZ1xeH0WyrVMNTY6FeNzikHntyhIS3aoefo5alHuV3g=; b=cnS2Vp8wOnSgeAsNzLW6zEuuF4E3DBExpmyAoKeLK+vaUDHTA9cWRi4Kz9HrMhYoH+ szOC+JR65CGssZjvSOoBI77T9bO0CgZrejaIi3gPrrVEoU8hZZJP719q3ukfOrvjy+Fy y1V/kcR8plACEpvEKOWEsN6lKLNmqzIDeHYjk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=pLYDt4UmgTZv9Xz4ZcBy+SWTN4FJafHzn6rAdYJC/hnU72EwP3nvb85checVC+YdiJ lifJGCxe+d8aLPRLpBfcvWvuPdEeOhb2ShCnjrTmLsXIkZF9nz5U7GxA+y2Y/Cv9LOW2 0FErIYna9ZiQKtSaz9Qn7fO9XKfGnE5UtNm1o= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:23:55 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <2CFDE976-B3B7-451E-ACF0-AB3EF52AF7AF@midway.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> <2CFDE976-B3B7-451E-ACF0-AB3EF52AF7AF@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: <03REIC.A.dHC.RZnlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 03:24:01 +0000 (UTC) In videos I've looked at on YouTube of controlled demolitions, there is nothing at all ambiguous about the explosions that precede the collapse. They are clearly detectable and audible even in videos taken from very far away. This is completely absent in the videos I've looked at of the WTC collapses. It shouldn't be necessary to rely on secondhand reports of explosions to bolster the case for controlled demolition, they should be right there in your face in the videos. They are not. On 8/3/08, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > >> There are multiple reports of pre-collapse explosions.... > > In the mass chaos that ensued, there are surely multiple (and > contradictory) reports of all kinds of things. It's tough enough to > sort out the conflicting eye-witness reports of something as > seemingly simple as a robbery or a car accident. I can't imagine > trying to sort through all of the reports following the explosions > and collapse of the towers. > > Jeff > > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From newsletter@up0.net Mon Aug 4 05:34:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail35.up0.net (mail35.up0.net [208.66.205.27]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457833C030 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 05:34:21 +0000 (UTC) To: Subject: Would a stock be more attractive at 30 cents or 4 dollars Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:34:21 -0700 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s_a; d=up0.net; b=K6FDhKpB+ZIh1n4KDT2xqeAwp5RVVh75hGoM887hiFlTwRp037ZbvelavNyCsIM4pbKh9q5BoofU7ATm8a+c4g==; h=Reply-To:MIME-Version:From X-EmailAdvisor: 195055 X-Delivery: Level 0 Reply-To: reply-5470@up0.net List-Unsubscribe: Content-description: 318001c43blooparc@loopers-delight.com!155e!2f9ef!a2c9a!hc0.arg! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 06:00:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE8293C039; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20080804003522.DDB333C03C@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808030409n76f2053cvf30d0f80e2f8bcb5@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031246l271847b3y39d71e343dda7124@mail.gmail.com> <20080804003522.DDB333C03C@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:00:41 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie...(Skull and Bones) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:00:52 +0000 (UTC) At 5:01 PM -0700 8/3/08, Sean Echevarria wrote: >At 2008.08.03 12:46 PM, Dave wrote: >>And thanks for that pilot's page, whoever sent that. Good stuff >>there. I also looked at the pop mech debunking page. It looks to me >>like they do a good job of avoiding the questions, put up pictures >>that are contrary to the questions they're trying to answer, etc >>(ie: the pic that "answers" the question regarding the puffs of >>smoke that preceded the fall of the building. And they don't >>explain how it fell at the speed of gravity. > >The popular mechanics 911 debunking page referenced by Dave: >http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html Trying my best to keep from jumping in with both feet here (a lot of my arguments are being made in far more cohesive form by other individuals, so I don't really have to). However, just to play a little bit of pile-on here... I saw the Popular Mechanics guys who put together the debunking article when they were first interviewed on Fox News. It may be one thing to say that conspiracy theorists may have an agenda, but these guys seriously and unabashedly have the *opposite* agenda. The whole purpose of the article was NOT to take an unbiased look at the evidence for or against a cover-up. The purpose was to flat-out assert that any argument aside from the official administration explanation was factually bogus. In fact, it was obvious that the sub-text under the author's attitude was "anybody who doesn't believe that 9/11 was accomplished solely by foreign terrorists is patently a nut-job". The Pop Mechanics author was so chummy-chummy with the Fox News anchors interviewing him, I really thought I'd puke. I agree that a great deal of skepticism is warranted in looking at all possible explanations for the occurrence -- and let me reiterate that this should be the case for BOTH sides of the fence. But the Popular Mechanics article is written by individuals who meant it as propaganda masquerading as skepticism. That's not the sort of data that's helpful for getting to the heart of this. (Oh, and both the Pop Mechanics and Fox News guys conveniently sidestepped the fact that the BBC reported the collapse of Building 7 twenty minutes before it actually collapsed.) --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 06:02:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D53B3C04E; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48969B6D.4080801@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:02:21 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: No Laptops, No Conspiracies, JUST LOOPING References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:02:21 +0000 (UTC) thanks for posting, Dennis! We'll be getting our own set up online sometime soon. A lot of beautiful music happened in that fantastic old building last night. An East Coast loop festival it almost was...! There needs to be another..! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Okay ... it was a rainy night in an old church in Somerville (Boston) > and the fans made a lot of noise (no air conditioning), but here are > two files from the performance on Saturday night, featuring > Chinapainting (Daryl and Jim), Tim Nelson, myself and the only > non-looper in the bunch, Rob Byrd. If you weren't there, you missed > out on an amazing evening. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 06:14:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6E1E3C054; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1832 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:14:25 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.3 X-EN-IMPSID: y5js1Z00F03yUm20000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:43:43 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20080804061425.988A43C048@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <63SBPC.A.7uE.B5plIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:14:25 +0000 (UTC) That and the fact that two of the towers sustained direct hits from jets thus sustaining core structural damage... At 2008.08.03 07:06 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is preposterous From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 08:19:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 735163C050; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <8D8445E6E7BD4E9DAB88FA97008A77E1@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:19:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Now offtopic and rubbish to boot. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 08:23:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A6753C053; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=HelZxTYjVs42G4IP0QrwK/c8vgm5ffrDMjnmmZUCtEU=; b=ajk1vL+d/H0LHxl7dOCGuvGeIf45y/HvMq4IVxDRSLp5oQD4lJzGRY83d5mu1mTxog G9tlqMX66asnlWcoZ9CDCBHqCqEHCZ0QLv+NxS3J43aU0D9Lty2H2hI61ArzhcZXU2vI 6mtuSFEtTyQuiefOMFK9wgycHjokSnrHrzvN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=X6JgMGUCPDEWY3oPTchBNMfT+APps/93pVDjWDaWwvrgJ37DwxtaeiIzzmiP1hI3z4 NM+d/6AqEdJIo8WrpOsp3lYcNoNfOmbmvajTsNzPjqG3NXtMYXUF3/xRIqLYO1Wu5MA7 0tlc1fEXCxNzxi8YQGLr1hh/vRSyc4SmUaaKk= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808040123s2ba1cffbkd175faca9166fe86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:23:55 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <8D8445E6E7BD4E9DAB88FA97008A77E1@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24087_19532999.1217838235584" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <8D8445E6E7BD4E9DAB88FA97008A77E1@eluk1> X-Google-Sender-Auth: afdd33655333c19f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:23:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_24087_19532999.1217838235584 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline HUH? On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Now offtopic and rubbish to boot. > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_24087_19532999.1217838235584 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 09:22:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09D893C05B; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RcKLo9fzhuC2LNxxQgAFIRF8SZUmTSqByaw2sLJOs8w=; b=fUJPxnTswnH8WTiwc1gXw/nDnJWNppWhBSTvXY57gzZ2B01/NwTeTCYKUTlv2qWQOA 8SaFilTtSJtx/PF+3YFTWyErKhCTcg81tstmei5oK9CHKJ2uw49BbuOGmQ9zflxv50Gh PRGS8/ztYqai6jiMrsetXNJANfEn7winuaAtY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=EUBRP7nK4A+sXqyJZ2Nh8qXqdSUmbMaxfevpKSibkSTtRJmr8x9xWJIFZuwHJ70A9D 0gr84Oc6dARWh39+ie2s/p4oAnkXW7oHbp3BTciDYwVBB+tNznxRoMw5Tye2Kmwbx5z0 O6kUe4/gEJvBKP+EkvIjhWMrKD4uE5h40MYg8= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808040222p880c22eyc8caea37a03cea5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:22:53 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MacBook In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:22:54 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Mark Smart wrote: > I recently got a MacBook (of the non-Pro variety) that I am running > Windows XP on via Boot Camp. I am currently using the built-in sound > card and am not able to get the latency down as low as I wanted. I > would like to be able to run Reaktor and B4 inside Ableton with an > undetectable amount of latency. Is anyone doing this? Can you > recommend a very fast (Firewire?) sound card for a setup like this? I > was thinking about an Echo Audiofire; anyone using this with a > MacBook? > > I hope to be able to add Hammond organ sounds to my jazz looping act, > as well as the big band synthesizer with Reaktor: > > http://www.marksmart.net/sounddesign/windsounds/reaktorbigband/reaktorbigband.html > > Let me know what you think, thanks. Hi Mark, My back-up interface is an Echo Audiofire2. I'm not sure that's the one you're asking about, since thee is also a bigger model, but it works fine for me here on my MacBook. I can't us the Echo for mic input without adding a mic amp, but for guitar and line level analog input it is great. I have used it a lot too for digital input/output, by coaxial SPDIF, and that is also working well with no latency. Its built-in MIDI port does not in any way disturb the audio processing. I hold it for one of most-bang-for-the-buck devises available. I have not run it in Windows though, so just take my world for the OS X drivers to be ok. I know other musicians that run this device under windows though, so I guess it works fine. No matter if the referred latency problems is input latency or plug-in latency, as long as you feed the system real-time streaming audio (as in not already recorded to the drive) you have to live with it. One can minimize latency by setting smaller buffers. The only thing I can say about using computer's built-in audio cards for live music is that I have tried a few times but gotten scared off pretty quickly ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 09:41:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F7C53C05B; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 56482142/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.238.171 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.238.171 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlkDAE9rlkhPTu6r/2dsb2JhbAAIimCkBYNS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,304,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="56482142" Message-ID: <4896CEC1.9090705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:41:21 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Dilemna 2 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Aaron Austin wrote: > I am synced out to a drum machine and so when i do a phrase then press > the 2nd record the drums come in with me but if i loop a long phrase it > makes the tempo REALLY SLOW. How can i loop more than a one bar phrase > without the ehoplex trying to sync at a tempo like twenty do i HAVE to > set the one bar and then multiply? that would fix it Or is it all in my Qauntize/8thscycle > setting? that would also seem like a fix, you could give it a go, just work out how many beats in your loop. ...but if your timing isn't totally metronomic throughout the loop the drums won't be in time for all of it. Another option InsertMode=Ins Hit Record Play first bar Hit Insert Play the rest of the loop. Hit Insert andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 10:34:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E19A93C053; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=WJmd++c9CSsFWFg2TmBECToEsG3arld0O0ur/nYiu84=; b=p/1GP7Q6dgHuI7ErPGaLcz4Of7MdN+7YTbOZnRxek6aRcmWICCrJv9cpoTgEI92RVK y6VPWb9MsQFGKftG/QaInJov8P/YjUpQ9zY94cmDTUzlO2/0IxG0dpfL3TmssRKDvSZH 8UnLBoOkB5kBkdNlIefoITa2ib56ReVQPkZA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=YtATuY9k85puLeNJVG0+dvrHXcwL5AaCQmcaV+HYgc5s8KYKbCIQGdMDyQ05pwpwfS QOgG5Tyr9SBGlrby5rtpdNu49j4hLQyNPe/cY8m+WXUw8DASbs54gGHdyOoe9CY5fXf1 sZU0Rpw9BlzjIDcbxlJCVm8o0v9/i4FeSYzro= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:34:15 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: No Laptops, No Conspiracies, JUST LOOPING In-Reply-To: <48969B6D.4080801@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22849_32427342.1217846055409" References: <48969B6D.4080801@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:34:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_22849_32427342.1217846055409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Daryl and everyone, I'm slowly adding more ... please feel free to check it out. http://72.85.228.116/audio/TheNave/ I got a note from Randy (Winchester, of The Nave) and he is trying to do some post-production to clean up the noise from the circulating fans, so what you are hearing is the "straight to disc" originals, stepped down to 128K MP3s... And Zo=EB? I'll be posting my FOUR hour session from New York shortly (*GRI= N!) ... just for you! Bicoastal Looping Marathons! YEA! Best, Dennis On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > thanks for posting, Dennis! We'll be getting our own set up online someti= me > soon. A lot of beautiful music happened in that fantastic old building la= st > night. An East Coast loop festival it almost was...! There needs to be > another..! > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > Okay ... it was a rainy night in an old church in Somerville (Boston) an= d >> the fans made a lot of noise (no air conditioning), but here are two fil= es >> from the performance on Saturday night, featuring Chinapainting (Daryl a= nd >> Jim), Tim Nelson, myself and the only non-looper in the bunch, Rob Byrd.= If >> you weren't there, you missed out on an amazing evening. >> > > ------=_Part_22849_32427342.1217846055409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Daryl and everyone,

I'm slowly adding more ... = please feel free to check it out.

http://72.85.228.116/audio/TheNave/

I got a note f= rom Randy (Winchester, of The Nave) and he is trying to do some post-produc= tion to clean up the noise from the circulating fans, so what you are heari= ng is the "straight to disc" originals, stepped down to 128K MP3s= ...

And Zo=EB? I'll be posting my FOUR hour session from New York short= ly (*GRIN!) ... just for you! Bicoastal Looping Marathons! YEA!

Best= ,

Dennis

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:= 02 AM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
thanks for postin= g, Dennis! We'll be getting our own set up online sometime soon. A lot = of beautiful music happened in that fantastic old building last night. An E= ast Coast loop festival it almost was...! There needs to be another..!

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com<= /a>
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com

Okay ... it was a rainy night in an old church in Somerville (Boston) and t= he fans made a lot of noise (no air conditioning), but here are two files f= rom the performance on Saturday night, featuring Chinapainting (Daryl and J= im), Tim Nelson, myself and the only non-looper in the bunch, Rob Byrd. If = you weren't there, you missed out on an amazing evening.


------=_Part_22849_32427342.1217846055409-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 10:45:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E00E3C054; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=GqiRLRfBmtO5p4a7JRTJN5pByc5IAliX59A92AYZOoQ=; b=e0IFtCPWbldP2BMHH6sB6Xl+BdrRe59tT26g8rP5e4U1lgOAVtXWJukDHicxgHNKu6 y8Nv4aCb+WOKhNZ1aSkcuKHGqkO4zRtout5UL74pg9kAHB7e/DKb4SvKIVxsqhAc15Sk 92fjajqx5gPXfXHtABrf0ow7pfqE3MiEKun0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bDWFDk9ZQPpnhqZz9jYISUf3zC7cigFlg+HfbuH0OZ0njJD1VMZoepgEE7cEaHuifT drDC1LT+6faYVAGtGHJnMg84kY7dV/9hlorHWyJKPRZ4wuWyzAYfc5W0pXr5gQLaFU+1 vmEqBhb5Uzt+w+f/4YK9pEyegwEYEqD2mKD+k= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808040345n4ff1e1e3s4e91c5bbb53496ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:45:48 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26794_28129864.1217846748813" References: <499c6bd70808031141w35bb9fc1y2c427771bfdeb77e@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:45:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26794_28129864.1217846748813 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > I watched the whole video, still not buying it. I am suspicious of > people who say gigantic conspiracies can be kept a secret for decades > if not hundreds of years, when a secret like the atomic bomb couldn't > be kept a secret from the Soviets for more than a few years. Even Hitler said that people are more likely to believe a big lie than a small one. > Especially if the people make a video with all kinds of bent facts, > quick edits, sound bytes that are not identified, etc. I think the > Popular Mechanics article was very well done and can't be just brushed > off as not addressing the issues. I'm not brushing it off. I can find stuff to refute anything they have posted, and some of their stuff is intentionally bent in certain directions, too. > In case people haven't looked at this page yet... > > http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/index.html This is a joke. The piece of debris shown here was later hand carried out by one man. Where are the engines? > WARNING, > there are very graphic images on this page. But pieces of a > jet engine are clearly visible. I don't have a problem with the idea > that a large jet engine crashing into a wall of concrete at 300 mph > would lose its structural integrity. :) Structural integrity is one thing. 6 tons of titanium disappearing is another... It links to here: > > http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html > > This whole conspiracy idea to me sounds too much like the idea that > the moon landings were faked, which is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. I couldn't agree more. And if we hadn't landed on the moon, the laser reflectors wouldn't be in place to measure its distance from the Earth... > > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_26794_28129864.1217846748813 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I watched the whole video, still not buying it. I am suspicious of
people who say gigantic conspiracies can be kept a secret for decades
if not hundreds of years, when a secret like the atomic bomb couldn't
be kept a secret from the Soviets for more than a few years.

Even Hitler said that people are more likely to believe a big lie than a small one.
 
Especially if the people make a video with all kinds of bent facts,
quick edits, sound bytes that are not identified, etc. I think the
Popular Mechanics article was very well done and can't be just brushed
off as not addressing the issues.

I'm not brushing it off. I can find stuff to refute anything they have posted, and some of their stuff is intentionally bent in certain directions, too.
 
In case people haven't looked at this page yet...

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/index.html


This is a joke. The piece of debris shown here was later hand carried out by one man. Where are the engines?
 
WARNING, there are very graphic images on this page. But pieces of a
jet engine are clearly visible. I don't have a problem with the idea
that a large jet engine crashing into a wall of concrete at 300 mph
would lose its structural integrity. :)

Structural integrity is one thing. 6 tons of titanium disappearing is another...

It links to here:

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html

This whole conspiracy idea to me sounds too much like the idea that
the moon landings were faked, which is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.

I couldn't agree more. And if we hadn't landed on the moon, the laser reflectors wouldn't be in place to measure its distance from the Earth...
 


--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_26794_28129864.1217846748813-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 10:47:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F2A23C058; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+1s3h6qwyUYNiE6NBBBbJgo9noftJIECoyTNTxnmUIo=; b=VdcfBKp++WBtoZt2sO4njs4aStsNkztlO4mJvjWQCG7TO0QPbJujiPJRlB/nNNGZxK +uiJ9o7/fcLzmWIwZR6mbXPfkRi+AuA7l3U9pGf3CWUJOXcWVsBNXUC+DSRwcqOXgIhp kE24Eiu0zKqlysj7BSpv29HzETRCEajG8RLC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=aKRScwiOgOTT6jep9c//0ID40cjo5K+K8ankeCLAAl/3Jbt7SaGCAdTNTPnwysbcin ORwF9L3Qxk6yBwLIuSE9560k5u1V+ubk7LD3x25MVRDGuvTs20Yq9KRoJQDn9fnoH0O+ RFALiD9rag22Ud0v10+jird6erDQ/ogz+GBpA= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808040347s6572d920w1ef5df5ac06f107c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:47:50 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26806_14456756.1217846870844" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:47:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26806_14456756.1217846870844 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://www.serendipity.li/wot/other_fires/other_fires.htm On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > > They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such > > apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history > > has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much > > hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- > > fuel fire. > > I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these > other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as > the ones at the WTC? > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_26806_14456756.1217846870844 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/other_fires/other_fires.htm

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:
> They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such
> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history
> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much
> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet-
> fuel fire.

I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these
other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as
the ones at the WTC?

--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_26806_14456756.1217846870844-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 10:48:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 345683BF1D; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=hnHIOZaLRt9gxM2LO49nk6nrF73WkegyVGfewZYZ/IM=; b=iXMfWVtshj7tKoi0e/eCnXjpc4mX4A0BmCQAR7kbeRa0YtNOzEuueurF9m/26T5Caf A1LrPnVsH5tp2gOgf0FZ3Xps0PceK21IlKn1UGXU9hc7ZcwxyQ+Cij1RRHC5Tx1DVWmk Z/TGVbpQvjT2vLo0yidUbqBEWW1LD10BLBOn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=wuXB5gkWnSQbBm8cL1EGsqvqiAhkimFcj1uBRkDUlgD0Qk7tzaGoHsnJlhtgrih5lr PGvHLf8AHWwAuK1eMPEwozNgVmzHpBdzlkRrLy4x4FBPlizfRvGX/xD9L3tFg5HAtkR6 D/rZNjsLNHf5IJWzk+pjY9OW4TLxEGGRYBIyo= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808040348n3d32e11fkf615b0fc48d67725@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:48:53 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26815_30881031.1217846933845" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:48:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26815_30881031.1217846933845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline And the amount of sulfur at ground zero, reported to be the biggest mystery. Again, sulfur assists cordite in beam cutting during planned implosions, etc... On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > The building 7 issue seems to be the single biggest craw in the official > story. > > On Aug 3, 2008, at 9:39 PM, David Coffin wrote: > > http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/b7/history.html >> >> I watched a DVD produced by these folks, I believe: >> http://www.ae911truth.org/ >> >> It was at a much more outraged friend's house. I came in a skeptic (but >> not someone who is generally impressed by previous Official Inquiries by >> Those in Power) and left very troubled. I'm feeling that the most compelling >> reason to dismiss the doubters is that it's just too bloody awful to >> contemplate the implications... >> dc >> >> >> >> On Aug 3, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Mark Smart wrote: >> >>> They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such >>>> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history >>>> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much >>>> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- >>>> fuel fire. >>>> >>> >>> I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these >>> other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as >>> the ones at the WTC? >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Smart >>> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >>> http://www.marksmart.net >>> >>> >> > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_26815_30881031.1217846933845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
And the amount of sulfur at ground zero, reported to be the biggest mystery. Again, sulfur assists cordite in beam cutting during planned implosions, etc...

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Chris Sewell <midifriedchicken@comcast.net> wrote:
The building 7 issue seems to be the single biggest craw in the official story.

On Aug 3, 2008, at 9:39 PM, David Coffin wrote:

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/b7/history.html

I watched a DVD produced by these folks, I believe:
http://www.ae911truth.org/

It was at a much more outraged friend's house. I came in a skeptic (but not someone who is generally impressed by previous Official Inquiries by Those in Power) and left very troubled. I'm feeling that the most compelling reason to dismiss the doubters is that it's just too bloody awful to contemplate the implications...
dc



On Aug 3, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Mark Smart wrote:
They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such
apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history
has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much
hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet-
fuel fire.

I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these
other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as
the ones at the WTC?

--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net






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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_26815_30881031.1217846933845-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 10:50:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F1DE3C066; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=95vvVPo4L0Lj7EwpaJNS2ksNSpEkTaycDsS3TMJMIHU=; b=NqibY1J+K/Xq10HD+qlxGY8zmoaDKP/W3xLG+fmR03LbuKtcrW5DAYqSAGfozq9FZk Sqzza3yY4a6ro7JWhlU2cBe4PSvWZG9iM9xczvrHrxZckqmiO+gkeSZzvC2IwWIZ8JFK m1WimTYP1MrQQx0mNIvzs+Tx9CJ1+C8nlv61o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=PM7Mi/fia4dc8w5bYHRu8U+U22iLYmHDNYynaJ/XkdWbifJSv7w76REknKKicBJgHV 6jyUnkfceHErDVTXrvMspdCnXD1LyHa3SzCOQeUK+Bg/eHIV97YNlMlnBV4FNUj0/vPs pyqLuH6UtsKUPXCoJBPFpSOPVxsABZAmwoVN0= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808040350s22221991uf3ab495f33fe7eeb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:50:29 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26838_28177051.1217847029686" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:50:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26838_28177051.1217847029686 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline They are definitely there in several videos and recordings. And find the interviews of the firefighters who heard them and saw them, as well as explosions in the basements, that blew out the lobby's windows prior to the collapses... On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > One of the many problems with the controlled demolition > hypothesis...in every video I've ever seen of a controlled demolition > of a building, there is a series of extremely loud and usually visible > explosions preceding the collapse....BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...I > don't see or hear this in the WTC collapse videos. > > On 8/3/08, Charles Zwicky wrote: > > > > I have an alternative theory to present: > > > > In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck > > bomb in the corner of the parking garage. > > > > This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the bombers > > were ignorant of the building's design. > > > > The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility > > that there may be a situation where the buildings could become > > unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and > > cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan. > > > > The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition > > sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to > > implode them after the planes hit in September 2001. > > > > The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is > > preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on > > "raging fires". > > > > -Chuck Zwicky > > > > > > > >> > They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such > >>> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history > >>> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much > >>> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- > >>> fuel fire. > >> > >>I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these > >>other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as > >>the ones at the WTC? > >> > >>-- > >>Mark Smart > >>http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > >>http://www.marksmart.net > > > > > > -- > > ... > > http://www.zmix.net > > > > > > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_26838_28177051.1217847029686 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
They are definitely there in several videos and recordings. And find the interviews of the firefighters who heard them and saw them, as well as explosions in the basements, that blew out the lobby's windows prior to the collapses...

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:
One of the many problems with the controlled demolition
hypothesis...in every video I've ever seen of a controlled demolition
of a building, there is a series of extremely loud and usually visible
explosions preceding the collapse....BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...I
don't see or hear this in the WTC collapse videos.

On 8/3/08, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I have an alternative theory to present:
>
> In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck
> bomb in the corner of the parking garage.
>
> This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the bombers
> were ignorant of the building's design.
>
> The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility
> that there may be a situation where the buildings could become
> unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and
> cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan.
>
> The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition
> sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to
> implode them after the planes hit in September 2001.
>
> The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is
> preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on
> "raging fires".
>
> -Chuck Zwicky
>
>
>
>>  > They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such
>>>  apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history
>>>  has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much
>>>  hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet-
>>>  fuel fire.
>>
>>I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these
>>other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as
>>the ones at the WTC?
>>
>>--
>>Mark Smart
>>http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
>>http://www.marksmart.net
>
>
> --
> ...
> http://www.zmix.net
>
>


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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_26838_28177051.1217847029686-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 11:01:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49BB03C06D; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 53570909/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.238.171 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.238.171 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlkDABB+lkhPTu6r/2dsb2JhbAAIimCjbINS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,304,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="53570909" Message-ID: <4896E16D.9010504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:01:01 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Dear Andy, did I find a edp bug? References: <9ab0c76f0808031434q17e0d095w97cd614950446ee2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808031434q17e0d095w97cd614950446ee2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Dear Mark Problems of this nature can be deeply troubling and confusing, and you did quite the right thing in asking me about you 'little problem'. First thing to point out is that there's no need to be ashamed, it may seem that you're the only one in the world to have a problem with inserts, but I can assure you that you are not alone, and many young people have the same troubles. Of course, it's not easy to say how you should respond to your friend the edp without knowing exactly what it's intentions are, but might you might try tactfully suggesting that it might be fun to try without using Quantise. It's possible that you were sustaining your insert so briefly that the poor edp didn't have time to quantise, which would leave it convinced that the insert was still happening. So, when you thought it was all over, and touched it's record it only then thought the insert was over, and so wanted to keep playing. yours sincerely Agony Andy ps. that's essentially my only explanation of how it could be that Record didn't wipe the loop. If you're not using quantise then I have no idea, and will do some checks to find out what's going on. Right now I don't have SUSUnroundInsert programmed into my midi controller for a quick check. The behaviour I describe here is kind of a bug, something that I found in beta testing. The SUS functions don't always work well with Quantise, because if you release the switch before the function actually starts the Note-Off is simply ignored. This is actually fixed if you access SUS functions from the actual Insert button (even by Midi), but somehow the fix never got applied to the direct midi SUS functions. There's lot's of things to be done with SUSUnroundInsert, although it tends towards the more experimental side of things. I like to gradually build up a long loop of connected fragments sometimes...kind of spiralling outwards like a spider web. If you use InsertMode=SUS then you have a way of using SUSUnroundInsert with Quantise, and then special "bug fix" that I worked out (and Matthias programmed) for when the switch is release before the function starts. With Quant=CYC it lets you gradually add equal sized bits into the loop. (I do this in a piece called "Tripwire" which is on my cd and available also on the mp3 page on my site) mark francombe wrote: > Dear Andy, did I find a edp bug? > > Try this (geez i hope its not my machine) > With one pedal programmed to be the ludicrous SUSUNrounded Insert ( +29) > > Make a record, overdub, play, whatever, use the SUSUNroundedInsert > button if you like.. THEN Stop, As in LONG PRESS of Record... Shouldnt > that wipe that loop memory? > > OK NOW PRESS SUSUNrounded Insert button again? Does it play now? Why? Is > it meant to...? > > m. > > > Is this mode only for multiplying out a very short snip by insert > lengths? Does it have a Use in a long cycle? > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 11:11:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA0823C051; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:11:03 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9e193796-8abe-45b6-a0af-bf34afc9d1b8_" X-Originating-IP: [83.100.209.14] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:06:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9c3ebb9b0808010842y4d1c649dkc2de30c39c771d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3ebb9b0808010842y4d1c649dkc2de30c39c771d9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2008 11:06:01.0268 (UTC) FILETIME=[14765740:01C8F622] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:11:03 +0000 (UTC) --_9e193796-8abe-45b6-a0af-bf34afc9d1b8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there =20 just chewing through litterally hundreds of loopers posts that i have had s= tored up while ive been away on a surfing trip...i noticed this one. =20 i dont know if it was specifically aimed at me=2C but i did make my own ped= al with my own buttons as i was more fond of the line6 type metal ones.=20 =20 the best i found after a few differant attempts where these ones http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=3D34489&doy=3D4m8 =20 they worked well for me=2C still got the home brew...i just switched to a m= idi pedal for more control =20 good luck phill Date: Fri=2C 1 Aug 2008 11:42:54 -0400From: loafcitious@gmail.comTo: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.comSubject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus Guess I'm replying to the original post about being frustrated w/ the FC-7.= Took that thing up to the mountains last weekend and it freaked out - ha= d to repeatedly tap the record (and others) until it seemed to "warm up" T= hat experience completely sucked the magic out of the whole thing. It work= ed eventually.But=2C this happed right when I got it! Out of the box I was= having funny experiences w/ some of the buttons. Is this thing so sensiti= ve that it's effected by dust? Altitude? Temp? WHAT?!?!(or is that the Musi= cians Friend Special I'm tasting?)I remember someone on this list a while b= ack mentioning that they replaced the little red plastic buttons w/ some st= urdy metal ones. Did it help? Did it make it more reliable? I'm going to tr= y to dig up that post but=2C if was you and you could tell me the name/bran= d/kind of button you used I'd be grateful. Thanks=2CAndyGarber _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you on Windows Live Messenger! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571437/direct/01/= --_9e193796-8abe-45b6-a0af-bf34afc9d1b8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there
 =3B
just chewing through litterally hundreds of loopers posts that i have had s= tored up while ive been away on a surfing trip...i noticed this one.
 =3B
i dont know if it was specifically aimed at me=2C but i did make my own ped= al with my own buttons as i was more fond of the line6 type metal ones.  =3B
the best i found after a few differant attempts where these ones
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=3D34489&=3Bdoy=3D4m= 8
 =3B
they worked well for me=2C still got the home brew...i just switched to a m= idi pedal for more control
 =3B
good luck
phill



Date: Fri=2C 1 Aug 2008 11:42:54 -0400
From: loafcitious@gmail.com
To= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro = Plus


Guess I'm replying to the original post about being frustrat= ed w/ the FC-7. =3B Took that thing up to the mountains last weekend an= d it freaked out =3B - had to repeatedly tap the record (and others) un= til it seemed to "warm up" =3B That experience completely sucked the ma= gic out of the whole thing. =3B It worked eventually.

But=2C thi= s happed right when I got it! =3B Out of the box I was having funny exp= eriences w/ some of the buttons. =3B Is this thing so sensitive that it= 's effected by dust? Altitude? Temp? WHAT?!?!
(or is that the Musicians = Friend Special I'm tasting?)

I remember someone on this list a while= back mentioning that they replaced the little red plastic buttons w/ some = sturdy metal ones. Did it help? Did it make it more reliable?

I'm g= oing to try to dig up that post but=2C if was you and you could tell me the= name/brand/kind of button you used I'd be grateful.

Thanks=2C
A= ndyGarber

Make a mini you on Windows Live Messenger! <= a href=3D'http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571437/direct/01/' target=3D'_new'= >Try it Now! = --_9e193796-8abe-45b6-a0af-bf34afc9d1b8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 11:55:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A99723C05E; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=sv+gyCTJDRnHOBca+W9vuBjdDDIsmoyLJ9b3CsI7NOc=; b=bQr3pPimoqKRdmCRkUC1nVdY6ap1Rl7PAAr9VmgOJZI4JaOfVQqBTTXwVoPgUUsaCC ieK+oYNFU3LJ4BlV6JxphsyqXujlwZInppDiwGDIm7kkphVamApIyovHZeg5wit2jxfm EUPZIywgDZu2L5Xw9vTi9o7R8v8W/Z2vmEimI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=gqYDAuei5ZjkpU1O9tiej/RZBj4hBWPQiMK1MdjaxwznHrVeQABipWNdwIWDoK9J1i fJYlfzT45DpjEsCje46ztmCH5Bplp8ZjlaouRY97lvD7gLcjrQqZJmWT8Y0/6wermDnj KOl0ci1+I6ynz8BHN3X90YoJkI/lkxoyvHLpI= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808040455t6892e62bs5673d206d1d17ded@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 07:55:52 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, enough? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27450_22235500.1217850952129" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:55:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_27450_22235500.1217850952129 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is not the forum for this, which has been suggested previously and multipl-y. It's a passionate topic, so it's easy to get carried away with it. All I can say is that I've done a lot of research on many facets of this subject over the past few years and I hope that anyone else that's interested do the same. Thanks for the bandwidth. -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_27450_22235500.1217850952129 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
This is not the forum for this, which has been suggested previously and multipl-y. It's a passionate topic, so it's easy to get carried away with it. All I can say is that I've done a lot of research on many facets of this subject over the past few years and I hope that anyone else that's interested do the same.

Thanks for the bandwidth.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 13:18:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40E473C057; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001e01c8f634$b6527a50$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <836401.71621.qm@web26204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <017a01c8f57e$4c2b4e10$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> <588ce11d0808031454h2ddc31d9m5f6391b17962b778@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: laptop joystick footcontrol Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:19:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18saZa9ApBQYmq/udCNKCTgDPwWK8cwIt1PMJJ JIqgawh/V+1pcueAeqMgkTnwxUlDqI/AgNrKDqxTVoq3q3VEhH WrEQVtLbAYifJaKP4ASmUoPAuywpDbh Resent-Message-ID: <67e5s.A.wEE.kGwlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:18:28 +0000 (UTC) hi art, here some info on my foot control: it took me a while to build it, but it is not really hard to do. the joystick chip comes readily prepared with a row of pins that build a matrix for the switching possibilities. you can buy cables with little "shoes" on them that fit those pins, so you don't have to solder anything to the pins directly. these cables just have to be connected to give a signal. almost any button can do that. go to an electronics shop and let them inspire you. i put the controller into a little plastic box, put in some mono mini jacks and a stereo jack for the expression pedal. the hardest was the soldering job on the jacks. i built them into the box first and did the soldering inside the box. that took me some time - but i can solder now, so that's fine. when i built the box i wanted to have as many options to connect things as possible. having just a single button, or a pair, or six, whatever. next time i would probably look for a solution with just one thick cable going to the switches and that's it. all these mini jack plugs are a bit overkill. in the pc i use a little prog that's called midijoy, to convert the signal to midi. i am really happy with the foot control via buttons - they have never failed me. when setting up i have to restart bidule or disconnect/connect the usb sometimes, but when it's up and running, it never crashes. about the expression pedal: i have not found a way yet to use it in a satisfactory way. i tried to control track volume in mobius and got artifacts and stutters. my computer and esp. bidule programming knowledge is not sufficient to work around this, if you should find a solution, let me know. all the best - tilmann > That foot controller is very cool! How difficult was it to build? Did > you run into any difficulties? What did you use for the foot switches? > What expression pedal are you using and are you happy with it? Sorry > to pepper you with questions, but I'm thinking seriously of trying my > hand at build one. > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Tilmann Dehnhard > wrote: >> when travelling i use a laptop setup. >> here is a picture of my box w/switches: >> http://www.dehnhard.com/picture >> my electronic gear is 100 percent hand luggage now! >> >> for controlling mobius (inside bidule) i have built a controller based on >> this joystick control chip: >> http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/ >> >> well, it's sexy to have your whole gear in a bag you can carry on board. >> and astonishingly security has NEVER asked what all these cables and >> buttons >> are for. i guess the flute in the same bag gives it away... >> >> but computers are risky. >> once i had a virus the day before the gig (and i was in india and there >> was >> no german windows recovery disc in sight...). >> another time the laptop started to fire key commands at mobius randomly >> about 20 min before the gig, probably due to high temperature and >> moisture. >> i stopped that by getting rid of all key commands and go foot control >> only. >> call me a pessimist, but i also expect my laptop to fall one day. >> accidents happen and stages are not the safest places on earth - cables >> and >> people and quick soundchecks... >> >> as per suggested, i will get together a survival kit for travelling: >> an identical harddrive with the whole music setup already installed, a >> windows cd and a cd with all the progs i use. >> >> keeping the fingers crossed - tilmann >> >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@null.net > art.simon.tripod.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 13:42:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A16623C05B; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OtiT2jT2RkjFxKsWyjgmVMHzjmjyOkhTsgLQOYaGwM0=; b=TifbtGaoV3huaXA8UWLt5R5gRe/gZ/59Nyj+aOGLLOy6jC05w1gVEtXi1BNLv5XN3j VD5oULWGofr9xFZxMjtHA81immh0D4st07HO5NJ42hsgYXFUis34+US1yjA1LhmUAs48 sK55yKFSdLU9KUEveYfnPRrFoRMZdDens1p98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=YDGf6XreKcKxbYv/OqEiZkhuQ7rRI6tKXFBdzkoifjqe0qsKdtuPT4kw4wtnn17BBd RnZGSsbVBB5PcCJdqc81sDPgEq44VpwE0uFSp65c7fvxmZNRgg81BT/VU67YvQVMjNg5 4ODvVI/IgulGs1WBQjI3szTditYqpEShL9yc0= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:42:36 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808040350s22221991uf3ab495f33fe7eeb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> <499c6bd70808040350s22221991uf3ab495f33fe7eeb@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6QibzB.A.beE.PdwlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Here is an interesting article written by people who demolish buildings for a living: http://www.implosionworld.com/news.htm#1 On 8/4/08, Dave wrote: > They are definitely there in several videos and recordings. And find the > interviews of the firefighters who heard them and saw them, as well as > explosions in the basements, that blew out the lobby's windows prior to the > collapses... > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > >> One of the many problems with the controlled demolition >> hypothesis...in every video I've ever seen of a controlled demolition >> of a building, there is a series of extremely loud and usually visible >> explosions preceding the collapse....BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...I >> don't see or hear this in the WTC collapse videos. >> >> On 8/3/08, Charles Zwicky wrote: >> > >> > I have an alternative theory to present: >> > >> > In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck >> > bomb in the corner of the parking garage. >> > >> > This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the bombers >> > were ignorant of the building's design. >> > >> > The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility >> > that there may be a situation where the buildings could become >> > unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and >> > cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan. >> > >> > The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition >> > sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to >> > implode them after the planes hit in September 2001. >> > >> > The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is >> > preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on >> > "raging fires". >> > >> > -Chuck Zwicky >> > >> > >> > >> >> > They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such >> >>> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history >> >>> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much >> >>> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- >> >>> fuel fire. >> >> >> >>I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these >> >>other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as >> >>the ones at the WTC? >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Mark Smart >> >>http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >> >>http://www.marksmart.net >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ... >> > http://www.zmix.net >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Mark Smart >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >> http://www.marksmart.net >> >> > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 13:57:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 794F43C061; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2Hd62MIvYlRUUeOYZyA98jH0aJfOEzymD5xDSYV7+lo=; b=BQuHjxlVHZFP5+876/mLrNCZ8jGTDE+CpFwbb610m1nlml4ZGZsWH343jMPNV9myvI LBqy4Wc27vXjctj2pSWN95IId0s39BUA9VL97BTKRghqHlo72umCEZgZyDEydA5g7NIy hU9cpZX5magQD4QMbF22jeNU+ZuS0zl81LSBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=v7wc6iQFRt+mNMAujG3OtzwRq1PLfVoAzwzq58LhMMee4cimS3wm8NPcXQKAmJPi2k Aa1eLtEutIBejLDZcykQHyN3FiuSDZ+BCT/50aFQZR3WrVY3ryXZD6Sqs0qxvCpoF/rg HGo1xkdHcCto6VNfzWobyFH7sbCqNA55EQ59M= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:57:46 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MacBook In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30664_16379685.1217858266457" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:57:47 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30664_16379685.1217858266457 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Reaktor inside (rewire?) Ableton with hammond and bigbands :-) using the built-in card with no latency issues? ... you yourself. I second Per's about ECHO Audiofire2. my setup, in bootcamp side, this is XP, 2 gig RAM. 2.2 proc.+audiofire2. 2008/8/4 Mark Smart > A non-conspiracy-related question... > > I recently got a MacBook (of the non-Pro variety) that I am running > Windows XP on via Boot Camp. I am currently using the built-in sound > card and am not able to get the latency down as low as I wanted. I > would like to be able to run Reaktor and B4 inside Ableton with an > undetectable amount of latency. Is anyone doing this? Can you > recommend a very fast (Firewire?) sound card for a setup like this? I > was thinking about an Echo Audiofire; anyone using this with a > MacBook? > > I hope to be able to add Hammond organ sounds to my jazz looping act, > as well as the big band synthesizer with Reaktor: > > > http://www.marksmart.net/sounddesign/windsounds/reaktorbigband/reaktorbigband.html > > Let me know what you think, thanks. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_30664_16379685.1217858266457 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Reaktor inside (rewire?) Ableton with hammond and bigbands :-) using the built-in card with no latency issues? ... you yourself.

I second Per's about ECHO Audiofire2. my setup, in bootcamp side, this is XP, 2 gig RAM. 2.2 proc.+audiofire2.


2008/8/4 Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com>
A non-conspiracy-related question...

I recently got a MacBook (of the non-Pro variety) that I am running
Windows XP on via Boot Camp. I am currently using the built-in sound
card and am not able to get the latency down as low as I wanted. I
would like to be able to run Reaktor and B4 inside Ableton with an
undetectable amount of latency. Is anyone doing this? Can you
recommend a very fast (Firewire?) sound card for a setup like this? I
was thinking about an Echo Audiofire; anyone using this with a
MacBook?

I hope to be able to add Hammond organ sounds to my jazz looping act,
as well as the big band synthesizer with Reaktor:

http://www.marksmart.net/sounddesign/windsounds/reaktorbigband/reaktorbigband.html

Let me know what you think, thanks.

--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_30664_16379685.1217858266457-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 14:09:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D315C3C061; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:09:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=sbslhOjueOaBqcbtYCQ1QckIrI8Rjv0luhF1T7UMNnI=; b=IG68sUzj8HgAe56GIFeZwdFjyvUFyAGeHiQ73QNl0L4smmPUhEHgZSE1XdZK9GSMAp YrmL+Yhiwcg2O+aAmfuV7Mv0mp/niuNXc22wRjs+F0QSGhA1YXTqSsx6nKp6qwdXyORH ClD2iaNDJib/BbaS3yVZSsBxSKQDGfpCUuDLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=taqgjDhbATz3oxDF4djCabMNVpLc4hnBQ1zElY+ARplj89RKyJImDUzibFNg8eeAP+ wCD9lA2MTnpEqC2uz+rIF1NbO7aPc8v/reBdkvH4s9guExcW73sOGaCdE3+oEO7TGnF4 1kiDgRO3jPWcPt5ExQppcnmGbM35nUBbrUgZ8= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808040709o158d26deuba7b968921a106ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:09:12 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_28832_13540094.1217858953071" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> <499c6bd70808040350s22221991uf3ab495f33fe7eeb@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:09:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_28832_13540094.1217858953071 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I can't wait to take a better look at that, when I'm not at work... On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Mark Smart wrote: > Here is an interesting article written by people who demolish > buildings for a living: > > http://www.implosionworld.com/news.htm#1 > > > On 8/4/08, Dave wrote: > > They are definitely there in several videos and recordings. And find the > > interviews of the firefighters who heard them and saw them, as well as > > explosions in the basements, that blew out the lobby's windows prior to > the > > collapses... > > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Mark Smart > wrote: > > > >> One of the many problems with the controlled demolition > >> hypothesis...in every video I've ever seen of a controlled demolition > >> of a building, there is a series of extremely loud and usually visible > >> explosions preceding the collapse....BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...I > >> don't see or hear this in the WTC collapse videos. > >> > >> On 8/3/08, Charles Zwicky wrote: > >> > > >> > I have an alternative theory to present: > >> > > >> > In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck > >> > bomb in the corner of the parking garage. > >> > > >> > This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the bombers > >> > were ignorant of the building's design. > >> > > >> > The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility > >> > that there may be a situation where the buildings could become > >> > unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and > >> > cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan. > >> > > >> > The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition > >> > sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to > >> > implode them after the planes hit in September 2001. > >> > > >> > The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is > >> > preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on > >> > "raging fires". > >> > > >> > -Chuck Zwicky > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> > They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such > >> >>> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in > history > >> >>> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much > >> >>> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a > jet- > >> >>> fuel fire. > >> >> > >> >>I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these > >> >>other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as > >> >>the ones at the WTC? > >> >> > >> >>-- > >> >>Mark Smart > >> >>http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > >> >>http://www.marksmart.net > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ... > >> > http://www.zmix.net > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mark Smart > >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > >> http://www.marksmart.net > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > > > > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_28832_13540094.1217858953071 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I can't wait to take a better look at that, when I'm not at work...

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is an interesting article written by people who demolish
buildings for a living:

http://www.implosionworld.com/news.htm#1


On 8/4/08, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
> They are definitely there in several videos and recordings. And find the
> interviews of the firefighters who heard them and saw them, as well as
> explosions in the basements, that blew out the lobby's windows prior to the
> collapses...
>
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> One of the many problems with the controlled demolition
>> hypothesis...in every video I've ever seen of a controlled demolition
>> of a building, there is a series of extremely loud and usually visible
>> explosions preceding the collapse....BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG...I
>> don't see or hear this in the WTC collapse videos.
>>
>> On 8/3/08, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have an alternative theory to present:
>> >
>> > In 1993 an attempt was made to tip over the WTC building via a truck
>> > bomb in the corner of the parking garage.
>> >
>> > This attack was primitive and ineffective largely because the bombers
>> > were ignorant of the building's design.
>> >
>> > The "powers that be" were suddenly faced with the real possibility
>> > that there may be a situation where the buildings could become
>> > unstable if they were damaged due to fire or bombing or whatever and
>> > cause unspeakable collateral damage to lower Manhattan.
>> >
>> > The buildings were therefor prewired for controlled demolition
>> > sometime over the following 18 years and the decision was made to
>> > implode them after the planes hit in September 2001.
>> >
>> > The "official" explanation (i.e. jet fuel caused the colapse) is
>> > preposterous, as is the attept to blame the collase of WTC #7 on
>> > "raging fires".
>> >
>> > -Chuck Zwicky
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>  > They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such
>> >>>  apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history
>> >>>  has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much
>> >>>  hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet-
>> >>>  fuel fire.
>> >>
>> >>I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these
>> >>other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as
>> >>the ones at the WTC?
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Mark Smart
>> >>http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
>> >>http://www.marksmart.net
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > ...
>> > http://www.zmix.net
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mark Smart
>> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
>> http://www.marksmart.net
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the
> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
>


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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_28832_13540094.1217858953071-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 14:12:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 126383C063; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Bw/M506hfY+uoHzuAXna90fcXvCNKxGxKQlYMaiG3Ts=; b=n/la2Lu8mJhqlNM4XqGjiza9rlR0VxWgXJXMogtrPiOILDwrPU2524LvIJP00zED0x Ct6oMUKULdABJh4SnQKciM70HF/PNeC61OhJKRxjf82VlH1+IZVn37K4uvvzeaoLnB70 O1EkojsnwpcGzbnPBo8d+Vzd46qnlXtwbeC8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vxmvjq6zB5xqu4u/khFlCRHpoDfo1l54vK2wb078cxJ62ZL9VxSLcw4GOBP2MnpjqD U18xqHi8ck+e6qTGyZUpEWjXwDN7yMh4BAuk5szf8pWbaSTCGWBYgV3SRRc2xR6kBHVz Oc5t0I/WXFvJBeR/3sdr4f2BfwTIXgbBlZNhk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:12:42 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: No Laptops, No Conspiracies, JUST LOOPING In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30897_3176732.1217859162897" References: <48969B6D.4080801@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:12:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30897_3176732.1217859162897 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for posting Dennis ... I just have time for listening music by members of this community. Using the weekends to update if I'm late ;-) raul. 2008/8/4 Dennis Moser > Daryl and everyone, > > I'm slowly adding more ... please feel free to check it out. > > http://72.85.228.116/audio/TheNave/ > > I got a note from Randy (Winchester, of The Nave) and he is trying to do > some post-production to clean up the noise from the circulating fans, so > what you are hearing is the "straight to disc" originals, stepped down to > 128K MP3s... > > And Zo=EB? I'll be posting my FOUR hour session from New York shortly > (*GRIN!) ... just for you! Bicoastal Looping Marathons! YEA! > > Best, > > Dennis > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > >> thanks for posting, Dennis! We'll be getting our own set up online >> sometime soon. A lot of beautiful music happened in that fantastic old >> building last night. An East Coast loop festival it almost was...! There >> needs to be another..! >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >> Okay ... it was a rainy night in an old church in Somerville (Boston) a= nd >>> the fans made a lot of noise (no air conditioning), but here are two fi= les >>> from the performance on Saturday night, featuring Chinapainting (Daryl = and >>> Jim), Tim Nelson, myself and the only non-looper in the bunch, Rob Byrd= . If >>> you weren't there, you missed out on an amazing evening. >>> >> >> > --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_30897_3176732.1217859162897 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Thanks for posting Dennis ...
 
I just have t= ime for listening music by members of this community. Using the weekends to= update if I'm late ;-)

raul.

2008/8/4 Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
Daryl and everyone,

I'm slowly adding more ... = please feel free to check it out.


http://72.85.228.116/= audio/TheNave/

I got a note from Randy (Winchester, of The Nave) and he is tryin= g to do some post-production to clean up the noise from the circulating fan= s, so what you are hearing is the "straight to disc" originals, s= tepped down to 128K MP3s...

And Zo=EB? I'll be posting my FOUR hour session from New York short= ly (*GRIN!) ... just for you! Bicoastal Looping Marathons! YEA!

Best= ,

Dennis


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Daryl Sh= awn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
thanks for posting, Den= nis! We'll be getting our own set up online sometime soon. A lot of bea= utiful music happened in that fantastic old building last night. An East Co= ast loop festival it almost was...! There needs to be another..!

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com<= /a>
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com

Okay ... it was a rainy night in an old church in Somerville (Boston) and t= he fans made a lot of noise (no air conditioning), but here are two files f= rom the performance on Saturday night, featuring Chinapainting (Daryl and J= im), Tim Nelson, myself and the only non-looper in the bunch, Rob Byrd. If = you weren't there, you missed out on an amazing evening.





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The Playing Orchestra: = http://www.telefonica.net/we= b2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http= ://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_30897_3176732.1217859162897-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 14:21:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF85F3C061; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=sBw01/SrJQg7OyN0CtCh51GrOBL/dLUhA3VSeuva4gw=; b=HcinTt5/zqsBf3VThPiP2eVm0ELLOlgRGfUBvTsTmTYIA/NYSwPxSftXpNMEKG1WHj fLma6oGIXCqilpcWAkrCGOfF6tMROaB3G3Q2ZalWnpFVSOitpasy8NZZDmKBt1JpgOEu f21iYOa4Sad1yTdMHZF0Eys9oeQ9oXNWuflC8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=D86lM0qfzCr1wRurVdA6DSTnXUEz+kAR1Y1WeSO40gmM2MAYE3clVOu4dNdLo7qhsM yetPKCZ661lMM0GSPu4cz+GUAav/YB5cLxC3xG8OdbWitXDnAVao+LEuzsic0ZEpcrpu oi4OXRVRRkZL1HBgYbF1mthfVMlcgbIglYWTk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:21:23 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MacBook In-Reply-To: <35928309-4F9D-4872-A572-1E42B41A6308@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17564_10751455.1217859683902" References: <35928309-4F9D-4872-A572-1E42B41A6308@comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:21:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17564_10751455.1217859683902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks, everyone for the suggestions. I only need 2 inputs and 2 outputs. I wish MOTU made a smaller, less expensive card. But the Echo looks like a good candidate, I'll try it. I like Echo. I've been using an Echo Layla (early 20-bit version) on my home computer for almost 9 years now! It still works very well. If I could plug its dedicated PCI card into a laptop somehow, I would! -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_17564_10751455.1217859683902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Thanks, everyone for the suggestions. I only need 2 inputs and 2 outputs. I wish MOTU made a smaller, less expensive card. But the Echo looks like a good candidate, I'll try it.

I like Echo. I've been using an Echo Layla (early 20-bit version) on my home computer for almost 9 years now! It still works very well. If I could plug its dedicated PCI card into a laptop somehow, I would!

--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net
------=_Part_17564_10751455.1217859683902-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 14:50:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AB963C064; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 634 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:50:44 UTC From: "Luk Van Lieshout" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [195.160.253.4] Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:40:08 +0000 Subject: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--=_vm_0011_W607714133_5583_1217860808" Resent-Message-ID: <8kZHb.A.50F.EdxlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:50:44 +0000 (UTC) ----=_vm_0011_W607714133_5583_1217860808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe ----=_vm_0011_W607714133_5583_1217860808 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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----=_vm_0011_W607714133_5583_1217860808-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 15:16:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F1F33C06B; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=lJVyvEcuD4sbw5B8zGt/zR6qXo/rwwNHsGDspcFtA5A=; b=RcpO6ULZH8PHrzRLfN73AcRe2Atf7li1OxD8uxOBtdAZhe2mrhal7dF4u3Vob6n4B/ 1kKrV33MY1TSbdi+slaO1DyhXb1bEFHu7l3j4Mk/+bnAd5vXJP/B+YD83pKCGNPppCzz su7rVrApGmlwGn/l9W+fzFvB1aJSw+pSPB8Hs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ahvfo2UBcSv/IHx3TfnDU7Wsmy1eXx3cxtbjjAmPAlSJqbUgsTpIpvxAlWD2lPY/MO HnxtbtyPY9tfjsNXu7w9faO1fffPIhoFtrm34hbfzorRtYB3TlzExWjDJ+AlT3Q8WfQE k5oreEh0jZdkhbkoDRLj4SAUVHXBUcnACHS00= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:16:55 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:16:58 +0000 (UTC) > How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining how > the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the > night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis. I also just realized that in the wintertime, the constellation of Orion rises in the east after sunset, so there is no way its stars can be visibly pointing at the rising sun at sunrise. There are a couple of cool online planetarium sites, try it. Orion is not in the sky at all at sunrise even in Bethlehem on December 25th in the year 0000. Where did he get this stuff? The Zeitgeist filmmaker's credibility is now at zero. Time do do other stuff, I have wasted too much time on this crap! -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 15:35:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D19DD3C06D; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <590E27D56ECF431C848A68B5F5642FD4@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:35:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <8a0s9C.A.rkG.3GylIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:35:19 +0000 (UTC) I use Skyglobe. Shareware, small and quick-loading. http://www.sidewalkastronomy.com/skyglobe.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Smart" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 16:16 PM Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... >> How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining >> how >> the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the >> night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis. > > I also just realized that in the wintertime, the constellation of > Orion rises in the east after sunset, so there is no way its stars can > be visibly pointing at the rising sun at sunrise. > > There are a couple of cool online planetarium sites, try it. Orion is > not in the sky at all at sunrise even in Bethlehem on December 25th in > the year 0000. Where did he get this stuff? > > The Zeitgeist filmmaker's credibility is now at zero. Time do do other > stuff, I have wasted too much time on this crap! > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 15:45:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BE2F3C06F; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3920 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:45:19 UTC Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:39:16 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48971494.7060906@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Very OT for sure, and subject is labeled as such. More importantly, this film ties together threads of deception with their intent - and the overall premise of controlling people for profit is undeniable. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 15:56:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A61E43C073; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <48971494.7060906@Verizon.net> References: <48971494.7060906@Verizon.net> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:55:43 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112046362010103f6a9d1321526e921e95f75d37341aaa13ac04350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:56:25 +0000 (UTC) +1... We desperately need awareness in this country (the U S and A), and can no longer be so naive as to say "it can't happen here".. it DID, folks, let's hope that the next administration can heal the wounds that this one inflicted on the world. CZ NYC >Very OT for sure, and subject is labeled as such. > >More importantly, this film ties together threads of deception with >their intent - and the overall premise of controlling people for >profit is undeniable. Timely, even... >http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_07/014207.php > >Manipulating the US population to support a military action based on >lies is only one of the tools employed by the criminals running this >country. I personally found the film to be an important one and >think it should be discussed by all free-thinking people in the US >and elsewhere. Thanks to the OP for the link. > >Dan Ash >White Plains, NY > > >Subject: >Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l >Travellers' Laptop... >From: >HarryEsq@aol.com >Date: >Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:27:03 EDT > >To: >Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >All due respect, what does this have to do with music, looping or >anything else relevant to this group? Having lived through 9/11, in >Manhattan, and watched the buildings as the north tower burned and >the south tower was hit, having had friends who died, friends who >had friends who died, clients who had large parts of their work >force decimated, and watched people moving about the City with that >death soot all over them, in a daze, I find this whole thing >offensive. Criticize Bush & Company for being clueless, or worse, >but don't give them credit for coming up with this elaborate, insane >plan to kill their own people to justify some political agenda. >I've stayed out of this until now but I have to wonder, do you >conspiracy folk realize how insane this sounds? Islamic fanatics >with a political and economic desire to take over the planet, "get >back" at the West and impose their version of reality on the rest of >the world did this. Bush, and the government of the United States, >for all of the other issues you might rightly point to, did not do >this. For pete's sake, would you please get back to the things that >bring us together and stop this divisive discussion? > >With all due respect, > >Harry > >Harry Weinberg, Esq. >Law Offices of Harry Weinberg >11 Beach Street - 8th Floor >New York, N.Y. 10013 >(212) 989-2908 -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 16:06:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5437B3C06A; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=wRnWJfLlwQTJSRq3/H1KedPfl1Q+bFnb8y7T25yesLg=; b=x1u/C4QPnWZ/bcEm80kftTlf7dOV1ob2ij3plbaOHWDiCL3IriymSu4xVo8gwQkFTB 4Le103YaLMvRgAr4tam+svpLBrwJHWkQSEUUtFcA3o87/W+o5FBbwyy6C8snt1efDVDQ FBIALUm7S9CfbALULvxATDAKsQR1QSZiCjhKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FvttPhuFxu1T/NKY1vNUDUMRj1RmXanVB8e4YY/pH5DxNuIZuI6bQjaeRRJVUHFuYw FAwRsdvDPmFntX4KveLD+zYUtTuKtzmyhEqOhq+0wNaMOC7MBQvBsfcY+s/Ngs/5d+M/ 8EGCnJT4kMxG9PFgPqU21H5gMmWF3KmhaczDs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:06:09 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <590E27D56ECF431C848A68B5F5642FD4@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26134_13487315.1217865969643" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <590E27D56ECF431C848A68B5F5642FD4@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:06:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26134_13487315.1217865969643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline GAH! Please. Make. It. Stop. ~~ Dennis On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > I use Skyglobe. Shareware, small and quick-loading. > http://www.sidewalkastronomy.com/skyglobe.html > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Smart" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 16:16 PM > Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l > Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... > > > How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining >>> how >>> the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the >>> night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis. >>> >> >> I also just realized that in the wintertime, the constellation of >> Orion rises in the east after sunset, so there is no way its stars can >> be visibly pointing at the rising sun at sunrise. >> >> There are a couple of cool online planetarium sites, try it. Orion is >> not in the sky at all at sunrise even in Bethlehem on December 25th in >> the year 0000. Where did he get this stuff? >> >> The Zeitgeist filmmaker's credibility is now at zero. Time do do other >> stuff, I have wasted too much time on this crap! >> >> -- >> Mark Smart >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >> http://www.marksmart.net >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------=_Part_26134_13487315.1217865969643 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

GAH!

Please.

Make.

It. 

Stop.

~~ Dennis


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
I use Skyglobe.  Shareware, small and quick-loading.
http://www.sidewalkastronomy.com/skyglobe.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Smart" <marksmartus@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 16:16 PM
Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated...



How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining how
the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the
night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis.

I also just realized that in the wintertime, the constellation of
Orion rises in the east after sunset, so there is no way its stars can
be visibly pointing at the rising sun at sunrise.

There are a couple of cool online planetarium sites, try it. Orion is
not in the sky at all at sunrise even in Bethlehem on December 25th in
the year 0000. Where did he get this stuff?

The Zeitgeist filmmaker's credibility is now at zero. Time do do other
stuff, I have wasted too much time on this crap!

--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net







------=_Part_26134_13487315.1217865969643-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 16:09:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 920563C06F; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <590E27D56ECF431C848A68B5F5642FD4@eluk1> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:08:54 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: More ON topic STARS and LOOPING (was: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie...) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-994256356==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112046362010103f6a9d47bc71966935ec7cd7f25756eedfbb97350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:09:42 +0000 (UTC) --============_-994256356==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The constellations are the ultimate looping devices.... >GAH! > >Please. > >Make. > >It. > >Stop. > >~~ Dennis > > >On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Goodman ><spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote: > >I use Skyglobe. Shareware, small and quick-loading. >http://www.sidewalkastronomy.com/skyglobe.html > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Smart" ><marksmartus@gmail.com> >To: ><Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 16:16 PM >Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l >Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... > > > >How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining how >the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the >night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis. > > >I also just realized that in the wintertime, the constellation of >Orion rises in the east after sunset, so there is no way its stars can >be visibly pointing at the rising sun at sunrise. > >There are a couple of cool online planetarium sites, try it. Orion is >not in the sky at all at sunrise even in Bethlehem on December 25th in >the year 0000. Where did he get this stuff? > >The Zeitgeist filmmaker's credibility is now at zero. Time do do other >stuff, I have wasted too much time on this crap! > >-- >Mark Smart >http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >http://www.marksmart.net -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-994256356==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" More ON topic STARS and LOOPING (was: Re: Very OT: Zeitgei

The constellations are the ultimate looping devices....

GAH!
Please.
Make.
It.
Stop.
~~ Dennis

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
I use Skyglobe.  Shareware, small and quick-loading.
http://www.sidewalkastronomy.com/skyglobe.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Smart" <marksmartus@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 16:16 PM
Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated...



How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining how
the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the
night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis.

I also just realized that in the wintertime, the constellation of
Orion rises in the east after sunset, so there is no way its stars can
be visibly pointing at the rising sun at sunrise.

There are a couple of cool online planetarium sites, try it. Orion is
not in the sky at all at sunrise even in Bethlehem on December 25th in
the year 0000. Where did he get this stuff?

The Zeitgeist filmmaker's credibility is now at zero. Time do do other
stuff, I have wasted too much time on this crap!

--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net


--
...
http://www.zmix.net
--============_-994256356==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 16:21:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FDC13C059; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=iJgrzsz8duaugl8EoEZSzZhCh3wj3EDc8hj2ibg+jsc=; b=pNNFrgDs7zxLPuwUvvmEcsmEmvIIi6Er+JanIpz974QRQUqSUmtyzdssire5DGmk15 XSMqbhQ8WVDbh5F4T4v0EtWFXOU1hkcZKVMAMfRWn9PqRHaypFgbFdXOnjY+K+dtPssu K3jApJv5Udsa9xmfkPwbD4vkuxXthPKVok5gQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ItPMdfwnOJ37shjcLlqoA58HYC3WrG5W/i74yLKoG1hDPGT0p064cpP3DpFb5lcMkd t975Oostvb2QjiPTwTi/qFMj8npVVcN9kIh60drSBohf4nII2wlG/5mCir4U00+GS8fx 3lXOMcpXx/9qnZldGea8GU1s0IbRYPsRCDyYQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:21:30 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <590E27D56ECF431C848A68B5F5642FD4@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, I see now that in the video, he says the the stars point at the place where the sun WILL rise the next morning, and not where the sun is (although his diagram shows the stars and sun in the sky at the same time, which is misleading). This happens once during the night and is not true the rest of the time. He's filtering the data. Okay, NOW I will stop...:) On 8/4/08, Dennis Moser wrote: > GAH! > > Please. > > Make. > > It. > > Stop. > > ~~ Dennis > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Goodman > wrote: > >> I use Skyglobe. Shareware, small and quick-loading. >> http://www.sidewalkastronomy.com/skyglobe.html >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Smart" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 16:16 PM >> Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l >> Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... >> >> >> How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining >>>> how >>>> the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the >>>> night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis. >>>> >>> >>> I also just realized that in the wintertime, the constellation of >>> Orion rises in the east after sunset, so there is no way its stars can >>> be visibly pointing at the rising sun at sunrise. >>> >>> There are a couple of cool online planetarium sites, try it. Orion is >>> not in the sky at all at sunrise even in Bethlehem on December 25th in >>> the year 0000. Where did he get this stuff? >>> >>> The Zeitgeist filmmaker's credibility is now at zero. Time do do other >>> stuff, I have wasted too much time on this crap! >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Smart >>> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >>> http://www.marksmart.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 16:27:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DCA43C063; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1mcyNpOtm1hRoYlhi/G/0lYIafdEceuhPncb5msBdpw=; b=Mx1svZUclSz4EI6kzz60ENcAOj/AKJIPOSq9ZT6JBvLgMFj55YHfsU3znpz4fKgraC KcYffCD8vPgNh0er9mWubINgG8lm3qAWxl+zirgpdGPsJgHElSQaESt+7se6dqWRhQmX IJm28P/kTVxAi7CLPTa2dFZm0wZKuRTE902KY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ljgog/O3AyR2sHib86wDIMIFAxjdYHOGWwgw3iL3JAYLIdatO8H7lQxUTNm0LvAcbH 3YCKmthijt+Cwb93WRqJe0KnskXolh5JWikkb3Bs31KpHL0QyozRU4EZ/hfViu4GmWOs HBcKmviJalc9qx+yzAwqrzN1gRIoTarvw6NRY= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808040927y25eaa77egfb5e0b99baf3dbaf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:27:53 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31340_31840569.1217867273430" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <590E27D56ECF431C848A68B5F5642FD4@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:27:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_31340_31840569.1217867273430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is part of the ancient religion of Egypt, not a filtration or interpretation. He's not making this data up, he's reporting it. On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > Sorry, I see now that in the video, he says the the stars point at the > place where the sun WILL rise the next morning, and not where the sun > is (although his diagram shows the stars and sun in the sky at the > same time, which is misleading). This happens once during the night > and is not true the rest of the time. He's filtering the data. Okay, > NOW I will stop...:) > > > On 8/4/08, Dennis Moser wrote: > > GAH! > > > > Please. > > > > Make. > > > > It. > > > > Stop. > > > > ~~ Dennis > > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Goodman > > wrote: > > > >> I use Skyglobe. Shareware, small and quick-loading. > >> http://www.sidewalkastronomy.com/skyglobe.html > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Smart" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 16:16 PM > >> Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l > >> Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... > >> > >> > >> How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining > >>>> how > >>>> the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, > the > >>>> night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I also just realized that in the wintertime, the constellation of > >>> Orion rises in the east after sunset, so there is no way its stars can > >>> be visibly pointing at the rising sun at sunrise. > >>> > >>> There are a couple of cool online planetarium sites, try it. Orion is > >>> not in the sky at all at sunrise even in Bethlehem on December 25th in > >>> the year 0000. Where did he get this stuff? > >>> > >>> The Zeitgeist filmmaker's credibility is now at zero. Time do do other > >>> stuff, I have wasted too much time on this crap! > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Mark Smart > >>> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > >>> http://www.marksmart.net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_31340_31840569.1217867273430 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
This is part of the ancient religion of Egypt, not a filtration or interpretation. He's not making this data up, he's reporting it.

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, I see now that in the video, he says the the stars point at the
place where the sun WILL rise the next morning, and not where the sun
is (although his diagram shows the stars and sun in the sky at the
same time, which is misleading). This happens once during the night
and is not true the rest of the time. He's filtering the data. Okay,
NOW I will stop...:)


On 8/4/08, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> GAH!
>
> Please.
>
> Make.
>
> It.
>
> Stop.
>
> ~~ Dennis
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Goodman
> <spgoodman@earthlight.net>wrote:
>
>> I use Skyglobe.  Shareware, small and quick-loading.
>> http://www.sidewalkastronomy.com/skyglobe.html
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Smart" <marksmartus@gmail.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 16:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l
>> Travellers' Laptops Confiscated...
>>
>>
>>  How do you think they're stretching it? I think they're just explaining
>>>> how
>>>> the archeoastronomers saw it. I suppose without peripheral lighting, the
>>>> night sky must've been an awesome sight to behold on a nightly basis.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I also just realized that in the wintertime, the constellation of
>>> Orion rises in the east after sunset, so there is no way its stars can
>>> be visibly pointing at the rising sun at sunrise.
>>>
>>> There are a couple of cool online planetarium sites, try it. Orion is
>>> not in the sky at all at sunrise even in Bethlehem on December 25th in
>>> the year 0000. Where did he get this stuff?
>>>
>>> The Zeitgeist filmmaker's credibility is now at zero. Time do do other
>>> stuff, I have wasted too much time on this crap!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark Smart
>>> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
>>> http://www.marksmart.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net




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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_31340_31840569.1217867273430-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 17:29:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05F083C06E; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=z0YvnHRHHSOKStYkZu7i/LaFyVxr3XUieAvWAINnPA8=; b=W1a9B9yh5w/VW+x/O2ZI00K3U84NEdQ+nuwiu1vIKhZCeBpqsZiNHnIQS8Z8YwGUw6 GqGAdn8p+UQflUKw8U1cw1xN4pwFuA646Y+kj32DNUVcqsKbhUbEvaf+Ulq/M28WejF0 9MdygjG130NdWG1ro2PT4osvjA35aY+BuJhOo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bO7MkHIaJ18ZapQax8bO4Hk9QQgIK9aCuEaIn/lBVu6hnx1f80oYDVueZM2k8ggbPP Wwxcae8fopzgGy5T4EI8zTg6+/DhHXRL7pI74bS6ihyL6x8A/B2xb7MW3RsZf3HQOHsS 7nfLjGlmVo2HyrXjNQYDzRdlhjGLyyFDBhtN8= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808041029u6966c8dcxd65822599cf9a639@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:29:41 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: No Laptops, No Conspiracies, JUST LOOPING In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22838_4817670.1217870981963" References: <48969B6D.4080801@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:29:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_22838_4817670.1217870981963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dennis echo'ing Daryl's works thank you for posting the aural from a wonderful evening and thanks for assisting in putting the 5 Knaves together. More folks attending would have been nice but a friend wh= o I was relating the show to yesterday commented that sometimes it's more favorable to be performing for a few instead of a mass as that way you're more connected and engaged and the hearing experience is so much more personal for the audience. It was so good to share the evening with you, Rob and Tim, connect names/faces from all of our electronic worlds and it was indeed almost an "east coast fest..." or hell let's just call it that instead of this continual dance about we ought to get an East Coast looping fest together one day or at least it was a "mini" version. I'll post our Chinapainting set soon as well as some video from this show and with our shows this tour, in Brooklyn and NYC. It was so great to brin= g the chinapainting live experience together again for this series of shows. best to all Jim On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > Thanks for posting Dennis ... I just have time for listening music by > members of this community. Using the weekends to update if I'm late ;-) > > raul. > > 2008/8/4 Dennis Moser > > Daryl and everyone, >> >> I'm slowly adding more ... please feel free to check it out. >> >> http://72.85.228.116/audio/TheNave/ >> >> I got a note from Randy (Winchester, of The Nave) and he is trying to do >> some post-production to clean up the noise from the circulating fans, so >> what you are hearing is the "straight to disc" originals, stepped down t= o >> 128K MP3s... >> >> And Zo=EB? I'll be posting my FOUR hour session from New York shortly >> (*GRIN!) ... just for you! Bicoastal Looping Marathons! YEA! >> >> Best, >> >> Dennis >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote= : >> >>> thanks for posting, Dennis! We'll be getting our own set up online >>> sometime soon. A lot of beautiful music happened in that fantastic old >>> building last night. An East Coast loop festival it almost was...! Ther= e >>> needs to be another..! >>> >>> Daryl Shawn >>> www.swanwelder.com >>> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>> >>> Okay ... it was a rainy night in an old church in Somerville (Boston) a= nd >>>> the fans made a lot of noise (no air conditioning), but here are two f= iles >>>> from the performance on Saturday night, featuring Chinapainting (Daryl= and >>>> Jim), Tim Nelson, myself and the only non-looper in the bunch, Rob Byr= d. If >>>> you weren't there, you missed out on an amazing evening. >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_22838_4817670.1217870981963 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Dennis echo'ing Daryl's works thank you for p= osting the aural from a wonderful evening and thanks for assisting in putti= ng the 5 Knaves together.  More folks attending would have b= een nice but a friend who I was relating the show to yesterday commented th= at sometimes it's more favorable to be performing for a few instead of = a mass as that way you're more connected and engaged and the heari= ng experience is so much more personal for the audience.
 
It was so good to share the evening with you, Rob and Tim, connect nam= es/faces from all of our electronic worlds and it was indeed almost an &quo= t;east coast fest..." or hell let's just call it that instead of t= his continual dance about we ought to get an East Coast looping fest togeth= er one day or at least it was a "mini" version. 
 
I'll post our Chinapainting set soon as well as some video from th= is show and with our shows this tour, in Brooklyn and NYC.  It wa= s so great to bring the chinapainting live experience together again f= or this series of shows.
 
best to all
 
 
Jim 

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Raul Bonell <= ;raul.bonell@gmail.com> wro= te:
Thanks for posting Dennis ...=20
 =20
I just have time for listening music by members of this community. Usi= ng the weekends to update if I'm late ;-)

raul.

2008/8/4 Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmai= l.com>=20

Daryl and everyone,

I'm slowly adding more ... = please feel free to check it out.=20 I got a note from = Randy (Winchester, of The Nave) and he is trying to do some post-production= to clean up the noise from the circulating fans, so what you are hearing i= s the "straight to disc" originals, stepped down to 128K MP3s...<= br>
And Zo=EB? I'll be posting my FOUR hour session from New York short= ly (*GRIN!) ... just for you! Bicoastal Looping Marathons! YEA!

Best= ,

Dennis=20


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
thanks for posting, = Dennis! We'll be getting our own set up online sometime soon. A lot of = beautiful music happened in that fantastic old building last night. An East= Coast loop festival it almost was...! There needs to be another..!

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=20

Okay ... it was a ra= iny night in an old church in Somerville (Boston) and the fans made a lot o= f noise (no air conditioning), but here are two files from the performance = on Saturday night, featuring Chinapainting (Daryl and Jim), Tim Nelson, mys= elf and the only non-looper in the bunch, Rob Byrd. If you weren't ther= e, you missed out on an amazing evening.





--
The Playing Orch= estra: htt= p://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspac= e.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http:= //www.jamendo.com



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapa= inting on My Space -
http://www.myspac= e.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 oth= er creative souls - http://www.= woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://= www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by M= el Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.me= lbay.com
------=_Part_22838_4817670.1217870981963-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 18:01:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D6EE3C06E; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ILbm7MTZmkRn1LEWHncx+JguxfXknin+lQjzjp2BFlQ=; b=K53cI44Sy9FcopadCe870rN3+5GFXxbouG78Ki2TGs87Df7gJ8D9PS0VBsV7payVSI +tkP4sr3MKDPJmz4O0klNIPHXx+kyhn+bnCxVF3VV6aqZ/mpeUCsC5UEqCVrzGSWXvCD bNplFFrK8dbPtgenDGaGyrQLzK6mRc46SLH7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=L3p/jdQLUn2MC0lpJyH46PZVF4vWVTGGK1WneLGXCYP94BP1NNtIO4FpGqSrbsKdTY uqrgX5FtmdSk2U5CwWbwtuMsduAPrQCgqaQwtA+Flizd9uHdHvACFomKmD/JWyGzM9tT +idi5VdiZVmOlha+azzdaeiFxACX7NqIGnl6M= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:01:09 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More ON topic STARS and LOOPING (was: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie...) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20724_11929583.1217872869201" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030259n15ffed2eu92b44e606ac27849@mail.gmail.com> <590E27D56ECF431C848A68B5F5642FD4@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:01:10 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_20724_11929583.1217872869201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Mars makes a loop in the sky once a year: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/allabout/nightsky/nightsky04.html -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_20724_11929583.1217872869201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------=_Part_20724_11929583.1217872869201-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 18:01:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D3123C073; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 309 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:01:54 UTC From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:54:50 -0500 Subject: RE: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Thread-Topic: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Thread-Index: Acj2N7RfG3gUksSfTNm6k8dBjegY7wAIwyeQ Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8892C59F@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> <499c6bd70808040350s22221991uf3ab495f33fe7eeb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:01:55 +0000 (UTC) > Here is an interesting article written by people who demolish > buildings for a living: > > http://www.implosionworld.com/news.htm#1 My favorite part: Our team welcomes the opportunity to review additional data as it becomes available. However barring any additional evidence, those making allegations similar to the points above may do well to consider that sometimes "asking tough questions" isn't the biggest challenge; It's accepting the answers and decisively moving on to other areas that render their contributions productive and valuable. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 18:09:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED0E63C06F; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=oTlGCa5A839vP/5mXI/adWJ/1EwBMpY3sLyjIn//TPc=; b=my9O5XgZ9Zf1nzu7O/MKCa0Fy4CYeyqMQ12nnxZF3bivRx8r909Yyp/XTlQc7jyFrR NWyfM4za0xxnSZNRhYG503SEx+2HMsUm0p0lAaUuvwg+Pdw0JAWP5A+uQ7YM3bp8aHMU jHg8gerVNKmuaIS3cyt5PGNmYmfyEDRfC25K0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EvUPRvY1iCk3KwtR+YhcIF+SzOxIO5kI0A+WnUqYsVMjo80QBkv34uaRVn7q1fvDvO PE2eNg6W/5SvXsOp1Uyn6fXIXWGPN9iuQAQlZ4+4fu2I8ooOoVxQftomca/BMw5kFULS zR2nvQ4awoIPUeP2hwB2c0Bt942afN6ODJaFk= Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b0808041109t62ecc33er125fc082cff1b0b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:09:14 -0400 From: "Loaf citious" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist -music quote? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_41214_19348746.1217873354112" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:09:15 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_41214_19348746.1217873354112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm still reading volumes of digest I've missed over the weekend. But, I suddenly remembered a quote that I believe was said by John Lennon: "The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it" Andy G ------=_Part_41214_19348746.1217873354112 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm still reading volumes of digest I've missed over the weekend.
But, I suddenly remembered a quote that I believe was said by John Lennon:

"The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it"

Andy G
------=_Part_41214_19348746.1217873354112-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 18:15:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B57A63C076; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Gp0675V3U1SmCjb2P5fj2pZMWeKQaWId4XTH7jK7S/k=; b=At0xz/zDJAiXs0pbAUhqd5Y0CaBHSqeL18dPeVSt3iIjPI0Ewh/dOd5MuilR4h7y+N bAzCrDGHCWJaFdMJkF2yDTGBGHpO5f66snKpI2BkBcimCzVLMsVbFrGyOjdtdhPlu7a9 UEEEP39k1n1Pn8i+/ZwZewIY5qM784t4/6Dhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=KqIoc89+OnijkEneNrR8sWzTC4wBh5PgdqdZJwDM8UXKfL0iuRcpBrkufaowmObxwR D4c6yLwKc0NuuEZMc1mfVjzlXjWNkpb/EYwyKnkJ3bcBexQjZIRWYEuNOWhb998ay/Sh egrltETNQMgUnayHk4cC1NtY4baDIjJt077Lk= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808041115t433e98a5t9a6b78fadcd2cdc6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:15:00 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist -music quote? In-Reply-To: <9c3ebb9b0808041109t62ecc33er125fc082cff1b0b8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32930_31509429.1217873700189" References: <9c3ebb9b0808041109t62ecc33er125fc082cff1b0b8@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6WJw1C.A.LUC.lc0lIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:15:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_32930_31509429.1217873700189 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline As mentioned previously: I think that's originally attributed to Hitler. On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Loaf citious wrote: > I'm still reading volumes of digest I've missed over the weekend. > But, I suddenly remembered a quote that I believe was said by John Lennon: > > "The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it" > > Andy G > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_32930_31509429.1217873700189 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
As mentioned previously: I think that's originally attributed to Hitler.

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Loaf citious <loafcitious@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm still reading volumes of digest I've missed over the weekend.
But, I suddenly remembered a quote that I believe was said by John Lennon:

"The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it"

Andy G



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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_32930_31509429.1217873700189-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 18:41:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D62F3C072; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 331 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:41:05 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=tuxNGlsdxBYJCKrkd1EKGCSWYXV1oXJKgMeeWmOAz1HphgIMNrpULdrvzjboHC9B; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <27BDE86E-4E79-4F54-AFCE-BB4029A52A09@earthlink.net> From: Paul Sullivan To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-78--950435068 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: NYC gig spam: LAMBIC w/special guest Percy Jones (Brand X) @ the Stone Weds. Aug. 6th Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:35:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 2cf92e4390c98b9b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7980b3db3216563ba94948c972b60aea42350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.239.145.131 Resent-Message-ID: <2Br8cB.A.0zC.C10lIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:41:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-78--950435068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, everyone Lambic is very happy to be furthering our association with the great fretless bassist Percy Jones. We first played with Percy at the Tea Lounge back in April. That gig was very well received and so we knew we had to do it again. This performance is at the Stone, the premiere experimental and avant-garde music performance space started by John Zorn. The Stone is located on the corner of Avenue C and east 2nd Street. We'll be doing one set this Wednesday starting at 10 pm. For more info on the Stone: http://www.thestonenyc.com/ for more on Percy Jones http://percyjones.net/ and for more on Lambic http://www.myspace.com/lambic And yes, there is much loopage going on, with a Headrush, PDS 8000, Line 6 DL-4, and multiple Booomerangs. Thanks, and hope to see you at this very special gig. Please come up and say hi! __________________ http://paulsullivan.com --Apple-Mail-78--950435068 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lambic is very happy to be furthering our association with the = great fretless bassist Percy Jones. We first played with Percy at the = Tea Lounge back in April. That gig was very well received and so we knew = we had to do it again. This performance is at the Stone, the premiere = experimental and avant-garde music performance space started by John = Zorn. The Stone is located on the corner of Avenue C and east 2nd = Street. We'll be doing one set this Wednesday starting at 10 pm. For = more info on the Stone: http://percyjones.net/ and for more on = Lambic 

= --Apple-Mail-78--950435068-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 18:46:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53A983C077; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=nSpqXswOjHiNXifUxJCwodwhOZUiVGMBtZipj17ZnBc=; b=ORBZVl5+Tdcmp3WFo2JT/h9Ro+WOruP08TTUNlKqdl3Nl58X282XAhzWuD1CpctQ/2 qOhag4qSN8M3pNBqju1t94yXGWCzJZYAW54YJBbWWgeYnxD9g9gTxYKu9yA0jtlIl4YU O7Uq1qNmV/w9j5hgP6fX4V3yAHVp+HYVVSIrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=uUv+kjD0S+Siijcffi02lOIFkmTBm3wsZElEcmUGU9nMaQtUBaim7XNFmGJ4mhHa3G ROPQ7iuRb0ZsPKrk42yHCfnAJf9KyAHw34VbBMRlugmLqBzi9c7D+esK0J9IA04deNnE syFgXvUE/B8SCWNSLbI+N/vSaSlS6UfKHxJv4= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808041146j1aec3dc2w8de9529f16b9aaa3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:46:11 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NYC gig spam: LAMBIC w/special guest Percy Jones (Brand X) @ the Stone Weds. Aug. 6th In-Reply-To: <27BDE86E-4E79-4F54-AFCE-BB4029A52A09@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24316_20335218.1217875571657" References: <27BDE86E-4E79-4F54-AFCE-BB4029A52A09@earthlink.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:46:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_24316_20335218.1217875571657 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Gadzooks! Brand X well remembered and congrads on being associated with Percy. That collective really takes me back as well ages me Paul. Is it the Tea Lounge in Park Slope on Union? I live in Park Slope. I have a question about the TL that I'd like to email you off list, I'll chk your site for your contact. Jim Goodin www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Paul Sullivan wrote: > Hi, everyone Lambic is very happy to be furthering our association with > the great fretless bassist Percy Jones. We first played with Percy at the > Tea Lounge back in April. That gig was very well received and so we knew we > had to do it again. This performance is at the Stone, the premiere > experimental and avant-garde music performance space started by John Zorn. > The Stone is located on the corner of Avenue C and east 2nd Street. We'll be > doing one set this Wednesday starting at 10 pm. For more info on the Stone: > http://www.thestonenyc.com/ for more on Percy Jones http://percyjones.net/ and > for more on Lambic http://www.myspace.com/lambic > And yes, there is much loopage going on, with a Headrush, PDS 8000, Line 6 > DL-4, and multiple Booomerangs. > > Thanks, and hope to see you at this very special gig. Please come up and > say hi! __________________ > http://paulsullivan.com > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_24316_20335218.1217875571657 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Gadzooks!  Brand X well remembered and congrads = on being associated with Percy.  That collective really takes me back = as well ages me Paul.  Is it the Tea Lounge in Park Slope on Union?&nb= sp; I live in Park Slope.  I have a question about the TL that I'd= like to email you off list, I'll chk your site for your contact. =
 
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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Paul Sullivan &l= t;paulsull@earthlink.net> = wrote:
Hi, everyone Lambic is = very happy to be furthering our association with the great fretless bassist= Percy Jones. We first played with Percy at the Tea Lounge back in April. T= hat gig was very well received and so we knew we had to do it again. This p= erformance is at the Stone, the premiere experimental and avant-garde music= performance space started by John Zorn. The Stone is located on the corner= of Avenue C and east 2nd Street. We'll be doing one set this Wednesday= starting at 10 pm. For more info on the Stone: http://= www.thestonenyc.com/ for more on Percy Jones http:/= /percyjones.net/ and for more on Lambic http= ://www.myspace.com/lambic=20

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And yes, there is much loopage going on, with a Headrus= h, PDS 8000, Line 6 DL-4, and multiple Booomerangs.

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MySpace (solo) - http://w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
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http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapa= inting on My Space -
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The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 oth= er creative souls - http://www.= woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://= www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by M= el Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.me= lbay.com
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To remove yourself from this list, click here http://vrstrt.com/u/NfIGa07xkl7R5IL_cz9yRA.html or write to us at: 25399 The Old Road, Unit 13507 Stevenson Ranch, CA 91381 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 20:05:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 125D73C079; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <489760F8.7030901@servingpeace.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:05:12 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Mark Smart wrote: >> They're talking seriously and from an engineer's POV about such >> apparent facts as that not a single steel-frame skyscraper in history >> has ever collapsed due to fire, even though many have burned much >> hotter than the Twin Towers did, or could have if it was only a jet- >> fuel fire. > > I was not aware of this. Where can I find information about these > other skyscraper fires with no collapse? Were the fires as large as > the ones at the WTC? > Hi Everyone, Mark: I just found this searching google, but there are many sources besides FEMA for this claim: http://physics911.net/closerlook This is a fascinating and also very sensitive and potentially divisive discussion. I have been interested in the many apparent coverups and the research that people have done to try to find answers to the many questions that have not been credibly addressed by the mainstream studies and analyses. Due to my interest I have watched many videos exploring many sides to these issues. It can be very difficult to separate fact from fiction in these videos, but I believe that they point to a lot of important questions. For instance I have seen video of people who were in the basement of one of the two main towers who said that bombs exploded in the basements of the buildings. There seem to be a number of eyewitnesses to this story. I also have seen video that claims (based on interviews with NYC firefighters) that the firefighters in the buildings were saying that the fires were small and only confined to a few floors and that they would just need a few teams to get them put out quickly. That was just before the buildings came down in their own footprints in either freefall or very near freefall speeds. I understand Occam's razor, but there are literally dozens to hundreds of very important questions that have some really scary potential answers in this affair. When you look honestly at the sheer volume of serious holes in the official theories, there is certainly plenty of room for other theories that might make more sense. Peace, - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 20:22:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A30743C076; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48976508.8000601@servingpeace.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:22:32 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808030405p3a32f617gc53f0d30ff57c717@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808031150i17006a60v265339c5eba3bf11@mail.gmail.com> <062784E0-2B29-4180-A16A-6DA11F601660@midway.uchicago.edu> <489760F8.7030901@servingpeace.com> In-Reply-To: <489760F8.7030901@servingpeace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Sam Nilsson wrote: > For instance I have seen video of people who were in the basement of one > of the two main towers who said that bombs exploded in the basements of > the buildings. There seem to be a number of eyewitnesses to this story. I meant to say "I have seen video of people who were in the *lobby* of one of the two main towers". Sorry for the extra noise, - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 21:25:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50FE43C082; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 567 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:25:16 UTC X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 203847021 Message-ID: <203847021-1217884547-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1758645572-@bxe189.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Reply-To: harryesq@aol.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... From: harryesq@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:15:51 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <3NIERC.A.YAG.9O3lIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:25:17 +0000 (UTC) RXZlciBzZWUgd2hhdCBoYXBwZW5zIHdoZW4gZWxlY3Ryb25pYyBzeXN0ZW1zIGZvciBidWlsZGlu Z3Mgb2YgdGhhdCBzaXplIGFyZSBvbiBmaXJlPyAgSSdtIG5vIGVuZ2luZWVyLCBidXQgSSByZWNr b24gdGhhdCBzb21ldGltZXMgdGhleSBleHBsb2RlLiAgVWgsIGJlY2F1c2UgdGhleSdyZSBvbiBm aXJlLCBub3QgYmVjYXVzZSB0aGUgUHJlc2lkZW50IG1hZGUgaXQgaGFwcGVuLiAgSnVzdCBhIGd1 ZXNzLg0KLS0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tLQ0KRnJvbTogU2FtIE5pbHNzb24NClRv OiBMb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRAbG9vcGVycy1kZWxpZ2h0LmNvbQ0KUmVwbHlUbzogTG9vcGVycy1E ZWxpZ2h0QGxvb3BlcnMtZGVsaWdodC5jb20NClNlbnQ6IEF1ZyA0LCAyMDA4IDQ6MjIgUE0NClN1 YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBWZXJ5IE9UOiBaZWl0Z2Vpc3QsIFRoZSBNb3ZpZS4uLiBXQVMuLi4gU2VtaS1P VDogSW50J2wgVHJhdmVsbGVycydMYXB0b3BzIENvbmZpc2NhdGVkLi4uDQoNClNhbSBOaWxzc29u IHdyb3RlOg0KPiBGb3IgaW5zdGFuY2UgSSBoYXZlIHNlZW4gdmlkZW8gb2YgcGVvcGxlIHdobyB3 ZXJlIGluIHRoZSBiYXNlbWVudCBvZiBvbmUgDQo+IG9mIHRoZSB0d28gbWFpbiB0b3dlcnMgd2hv IHNhaWQgdGhhdCBib21icyBleHBsb2RlZCBpbiB0aGUgYmFzZW1lbnRzIG9mIA0KPiB0aGUgYnVp bGRpbmdzLiBUaGVyZSBzZWVtIHRvIGJlIGEgbnVtYmVyIG9mIGV5ZXdpdG5lc3NlcyB0byB0aGlz IHN0b3J5Lg0KDQpJIG1lYW50IHRvIHNheSAiSSBoYXZlIHNlZW4gdmlkZW8gb2YgcGVvcGxlIHdo byB3ZXJlIGluIHRoZSAqbG9iYnkqIG9mIA0Kb25lIG9mIHRoZSB0d28gbWFpbiB0b3dlcnMiLg0K DQpTb3JyeSBmb3IgdGhlIGV4dHJhIG5vaXNlLA0KLSBTYW0NCg0KDQoNClNlbnQgZnJvbSBteSBC bGFja0JlcnJ5riBzbWFydHBob25lIHdpdGggU3ByaW50U3BlZWQ= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 21:29:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85FF33C085; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ZjUOFoIinuEAD1wEI6lx0JBE/nGeY/n7J1hT7HkQ5tI=; b=C3fd/lCGN0e+vUfaJK3txPfMMGUIKiDwJuNJFy7u/a2uGbbKtaIG2viWWuyc2093RL 0FYG2zjdNbC5L8mLOaH1/DkVnUHlup+8WP+FimaUME0eEZ631Q+k2Ajob9lT3YYfSwlU i5jK3eohiCEfduxqtuacdVZpZzMFjS5pSrN1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FWDCyF9eAIJ06Y3XCBG4+nx1JdF52uSBDuz6oagI08JN6STf0mcDNljEh4KwfY70C7 U8Od5vaCGQd1iKvZi6Ht3bVPF7yjTvY624FExAACgx8TCgIVToNk28kPvJtQwVdryvh0 k00TPCBK1qvghUuu3H4+xwVZImq2vpW0HBILQ= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808041429ie879908m3c6e722b3d66e9e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:29:34 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <203847021-1217884547-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1758645572-@bxe189.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_35040_23986073.1217885374227" References: <203847021-1217884547-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1758645572-@bxe189.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Resent-Message-ID: <5yIRSC.A.5HG._S3lIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:29:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_35040_23986073.1217885374227 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Doesn't there have to be some kind of explosive to explode? And would electrical blasts in the basement really blow out all the windows, and lift people up, that were in the lobby? On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:15 PM, wrote: > Ever see what happens when electronic systems for buildings of that size > are on fire? I'm no engineer, but I reckon that sometimes they explode. > Uh, because they're on fire, not because the President made it happen. > Just a guess. > ------Original Message------ > From: Sam Nilsson > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > ReplyTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l > Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... > > Sam Nilsson wrote: > > For instance I have seen video of people who were in the basement of one > > of the two main towers who said that bombs exploded in the basements of > > the buildings. There seem to be a number of eyewitnesses to this story. > > I meant to say "I have seen video of people who were in the *lobby* of > one of the two main towers". > > Sorry for the extra noise, > - Sam > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R) smartphone with SprintSpeed -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_35040_23986073.1217885374227 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Doesn't there have to be some kind of explosive to explode? And would electrical blasts in the basement really blow out all the windows, and lift people up, that were in the lobby?

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:15 PM, <harryesq@aol.com> wrote:
Ever see what happens when electronic systems for buildings of that size are on fire?  I'm no engineer, but I reckon that sometimes they explode.  Uh, because they're on fire, not because the President made it happen.  Just a guess.
------Original Message------
From: Sam Nilsson
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
ReplyTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers'Laptops Confiscated...

Sam Nilsson wrote:
> For instance I have seen video of people who were in the basement of one
> of the two main towers who said that bombs exploded in the basements of
> the buildings. There seem to be a number of eyewitnesses to this story.

I meant to say "I have seen video of people who were in the *lobby* of
one of the two main towers".

Sorry for the extra noise,
- Sam



Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_35040_23986073.1217885374227-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 21:45:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB51E3C08A; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=JnGJtoAp+Kq5Jx/nLXjAvKQNlC78Mafey+syIDKx5JY=; b=hIGjDCp44RVXioQ6NcbGiDK/Le9xFNM4GfBC/P3RTLJo5qa3frERpMOcZnFY3jYbT9 0Pa2kzzCP4RkZNFgd0WcAZuvEw3OWVuO4uF3NRNza3fiuD6JSw2uR4tD7luW7tEwhg3n A76hv/FqmNQEKXyNS7giNOLpk3kTZDp6S+vEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=CRwDHllXkbhEhRyrCSqxORK45robH5j0l8vRwGTPmW7d73by5QHLEdYLQf0tlhiPzF lHgrkG3zS0sxMEYtJgr/7cwcnDWS8dR/q+qY7zFMqFWqx9lNSXPlO8gEGiEuOaj4s2tB O0RYRKILrmVZIKASBw5qwy6gu92/fhYCCjC8s= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:45:52 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808041429ie879908m3c6e722b3d66e9e7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30057_17861839.1217886352190" References: <203847021-1217884547-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1758645572-@bxe189.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <499c6bd70808041429ie879908m3c6e722b3d66e9e7@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:45:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30057_17861839.1217886352190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline We've already come close to having to invoke Godwin's Rule ... can't we make this thread die yet? Dennis On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Dave wrote: > Doesn't there have to be some kind of explosive to explode? And would > electrical blasts in the basement really blow out all the windows, and lift > people up, that were in the lobby? > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:15 PM, wrote: > >> Ever see what happens when electronic systems for buildings of that size >> are on fire? I'm no engineer, but I reckon that sometimes they explode. >> Uh, because they're on fire, not because the President made it happen. >> Just a guess. >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Sam Nilsson >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> ReplyTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM >> Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l >> Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... >> >> Sam Nilsson wrote: >> > For instance I have seen video of people who were in the basement of one >> > of the two main towers who said that bombs exploded in the basements of >> > the buildings. There seem to be a number of eyewitnesses to this story. >> >> I meant to say "I have seen video of people who were in the *lobby* of >> one of the two main towers". >> >> Sorry for the extra noise, >> - Sam >> >> >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry(R) smartphone with SprintSpeed > > > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > ------=_Part_30057_17861839.1217886352190 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

We've already come close to having to invoke Godwin's Rule ... can't we make this thread die yet?

Dennis

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
Doesn't there have to be some kind of explosive to explode? And would electrical blasts in the basement really blow out all the windows, and lift people up, that were in the lobby?


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:15 PM, <harryesq@aol.com> wrote:
Ever see what happens when electronic systems for buildings of that size are on fire?  I'm no engineer, but I reckon that sometimes they explode.  Uh, because they're on fire, not because the President made it happen.  Just a guess.
------Original Message------
From: Sam Nilsson
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
ReplyTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers'Laptops Confiscated...

Sam Nilsson wrote:
> For instance I have seen video of people who were in the basement of one
> of the two main towers who said that bombs exploded in the basements of
> the buildings. There seem to be a number of eyewitnesses to this story.

I meant to say "I have seen video of people who were in the *lobby* of
one of the two main towers".

Sorry for the extra noise,
- Sam



Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"

------=_Part_30057_17861839.1217886352190-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 22:15:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D20273C082; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=M3DbaQI0NCBgsAQfP4eB5MsEnWMiDMbAcsOTLKYZm4Q=; b=PDiJMhMzRmgLGObfrqjqDGWjp/Oi8GBQ3YIKKM5ox0h/dxr0eVJs7En0LjM8timu4h qx05Wnrrfq4DvfApomzbAmfTSjL0gl7H4YMiDtUaehnMQlBOoJy9XmU+tgmZ9H+HMfAt rcqb1rl1YKJxd2iS8s89K805F+3gsHbGtdQtI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=PWSvQMiOOVke9MH/G/6/mPFKjkOrjsPKHRRcqjNIb9VapLNCQ65NVcyGL/uJJtsb8F LV2XXvYZQBqoF1T0tbVOhaBYYp+xCwdYcW8xlVruGrTAcV8mFyQeIVw9C4vSYfBl4VB1 5sIVBcC93mPIC509qdKJwS6vfPervMNJgSAvI= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:15:47 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <203847021-1217884547-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1758645572-@bxe189.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <499c6bd70808041429ie879908m3c6e722b3d66e9e7@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2goCiC.A.c9G.U-3lIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Fine with me! On 8/4/08, Dennis Moser wrote: > We've already come close to having to invoke Godwin's Rule ... can't we make > this thread die yet? > > Dennis > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Dave wrote: > >> Doesn't there have to be some kind of explosive to explode? And would >> electrical blasts in the basement really blow out all the windows, and >> lift >> people up, that were in the lobby? >> >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:15 PM, wrote: >> >>> Ever see what happens when electronic systems for buildings of that size >>> are on fire? I'm no engineer, but I reckon that sometimes they explode. >>> Uh, because they're on fire, not because the President made it happen. >>> Just a guess. >>> ------Original Message------ >>> From: Sam Nilsson >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> ReplyTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Sent: Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM >>> Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l >>> Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... >>> >>> Sam Nilsson wrote: >>> > For instance I have seen video of people who were in the basement of >>> > one >>> > of the two main towers who said that bombs exploded in the basements of >>> > the buildings. There seem to be a number of eyewitnesses to this story. >>> >>> I meant to say "I have seen video of people who were in the *lobby* of >>> one of the two main towers". >>> >>> Sorry for the extra noise, >>> - Sam >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry(R) smartphone with SprintSpeed >> >> >> >> >> -- >> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >> > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 22:19:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 946C83C085; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:18:01 -0500 Subject: RE: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... Thread-Topic: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... Thread-Index: Acj2eO6RqzL6dJ3XTXy0a6a+tuoOiwAAQXSw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8892C6A3@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <203847021-1217884547-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1758645572-@bxe189.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <499c6bd70808041429ie879908m3c6e722b3d66e9e7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808041429ie879908m3c6e722b3d66e9e7@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <5tIhtC.A.pEH.MC4lIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:19:56 +0000 (UTC) > Doesn't there have to be some kind of explosive to explode? And would > electrical blasts in the basement really blow out all the windows, and > lift people up, that were in the lobby? So many tough questions being asked. Perhaps you would receive more useful answers if you directed them at people that knew something about explosives, structural engineering, electrical systems, and the psychology of terrified humans. If you're that passionate about your "research" spend less time on conspiracy web sites and more time talking to knowledgeable people that aren't inclined to agree with you for ideological reasons. Zeal is not always a positive influence on critical thinking. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 22:29:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D70E03C086; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=h923+fbPSZuxcO8x6rBKZ4KhpgLUVG+vgjjsIjAUF/U=; b=RQxPjzASPOSBIEurzMNAKGpwRvZCnkOu3QScDCCK97n1nqUwQyPV3190xDBjG+3yjF 83AtdJRCol48PykBYRar8P4X1n16GMCj5BXPbFXyivFMPzVkviXnoKlsgmac4nz0Qv3W iz0dKUoB1GOr9avkms3Sn8LnZ76HnnptaHLg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=q8LEs7/FN+l0/o3sdZHU1BhSbh3c9IKrwCSp9uTkXJ2+WgTOjIj0yZeWg18SQyiW9g 3yaU8+iRyqFdMMJsmkv4HzzifSshUQLxotk3gItxhCamsnWdtVDSSHTYO6+D+s0yppdx RxU4mpM8Z+iJtnGpvkLnZCaTVVy7zooUUpSDs= Message-ID: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:29:43 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: is there a Bidule-type program that can run on Ubuntu linux? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21036_800815.1217888983992" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:29:44 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21036_800815.1217888983992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone! I figure this is on the topic of looping, as Bidule is the environment I am planning on using on my hopefully-soon move to software looping--anyways, I was thinking instead on going through windows or mac for an operating system, I think it would be cool to have linux and make it a somewhat single-use computer and have it so it really only can run the modular audio environment and the VSTs that I have too. anyways, I really like Bidule. I would love to use it on a linux computer and go from there--does anyone know if there is one like it that can run on Ubuntu Linux? also, are VST OS-specific? i have a feeling they are, and that might make things a little more difficult than I expected! Thanks for any advice! Charlie ------=_Part_21036_800815.1217888983992 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hi everyone!

I figure this is on the topic of looping, as Bidule is the environment I am planning on using on my hopefully-soon move to software looping--anyways, I was thinking instead on going through windows or mac for an operating system, I think it would be cool to have linux and make it a somewhat single-use computer and have it so it really only can run the modular audio environment and the VSTs that I have too.

anyways, I really like Bidule. I would love to use it on a linux computer and go from there--does anyone know if there is one like it that can run on Ubuntu Linux?
also, are VST OS-specific? i have a feeling they are, and that might make things a little more difficult than I expected!


Thanks for any advice!

Charlie
------=_Part_21036_800815.1217888983992-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 22:50:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1507A3C093; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:48:59 -0500 Subject: RE: is there a Bidule-type program that can run on Ubuntu linux? Thread-Topic: is there a Bidule-type program that can run on Ubuntu linux? Thread-Index: Acj2gVZQoJhJlBoUT7e3mVi6O5mAdAAAsqFg Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8892C6B7@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:50:54 +0000 (UTC) I'm not aware of anything like Bidule that runs natively on Linux. Audiomulch which resembles Bidule in some ways is known to work under Wine (Windows emulator) but I don't know about Bidule. Audio applications typically do not work very well under emulators or virtualization systems because they need very low level access to the audio hardware. As for native Linux applications, Ardour is a full featured DAW that can presumably host plugins but it doesn't follow the Bidule "connect the wires" user interface, like most DAWs it is designed more for recording and editing than real-time performance. Many VSTs are host specific. A few aren't but most of the larger complex ones are. Though there are those that will passionately disagree, I can't recommend Linux as a platform for most musicians. You'll have a much easier time with OSX or Windows. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 23:02:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAFE73C089; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02d301c8f686$24271210$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8892C6B7@barq.sailpoint.com> Subject: Re: is there a Bidule-type program that can run on Ubuntu linux? Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:02:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:02:30 +0000 (UTC) > Though there are those that will passionately disagree, I can't > recommend Linux as a platform for most musicians. You'll have > a much easier time with OSX or Windows. Though I'm a huge proponent of Linux (search for my name in connection with Wine), I have to agree with you. The problem is not that Linux is a bad operating system. In fact, I would consider it an excellent platform. At this time, audio applications are limited. As much as I hate Windows, it has better support of third party application developers. -Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 23:26:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41C9D3C096; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=bq6qAKV5Ep4A:10 a=MhWjL4uRlvEA:10 a=EJIWHmqPMjR6xk9vUsIA:9 a=uzi8co5as-b4_mQcU6jtDWdnMGIA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=7mayv77iRtYA:10 a=5zJO81PRp4lv3703PA4A:9 a=QBDXOc9ANePdw8oHB4UA:7 a=w26MnFfaRMmAukbpXx5wp8amolsA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <203847021-1217884547-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1758645572-@bxe189.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <499c6bd70808041429ie879908m3c6e722b3d66e9e7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--932963837 Message-Id: <0351779D-F922-40DD-BBA2-F34633AB47F2@comcast.net> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:26:44 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:26:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--932963837 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed You know the thread title. Just delete. On Aug 4, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > We've already come close to having to invoke Godwin's Rule ... =20 > can't we make this thread die yet? > > Dennis > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Dave =20 > wrote: > Doesn't there have to be some kind of explosive to explode? And =20 > would electrical blasts in the basement really blow out all the =20 > windows, and lift people up, that were in the lobby? > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:15 PM, wrote: > Ever see what happens when electronic systems for buildings of that =20= > size are on fire? I'm no engineer, but I reckon that sometimes =20 > they explode. Uh, because they're on fire, not because the =20 > President made it happen. Just a guess. > ------Original Message------ > From: Sam Nilsson > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > ReplyTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l =20= > Travellers'Laptops Confiscated... > > Sam Nilsson wrote: > > For instance I have seen video of people who were in the basement =20= > of one > > of the two main towers who said that bombs exploded in the =20 > basements of > > the buildings. There seem to be a number of eyewitnesses to this =20 > story. > > I meant to say "I have seen video of people who were in the *lobby* of > one of the two main towers". > > Sorry for the extra noise, > - Sam > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry=AE smartphone with SprintSpeed > > > > --=20 > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent =20 > to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > --Apple-Mail-3--932963837 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 You know the thread title. Just delete.=A0
On Aug 4, 2008, = at 5:45 PM, Dennis Moser wrote:

We've already come close to having to invoke Godwin's = Rule ... can't we make this thread die yet?

Dennis


On = Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>= wrote:
Doesn't there have to be some kind of explosive to explode? = And would electrical blasts in the basement really blow out all the = windows, and lift people up, that were in the lobby?


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 = at 5:15 PM, <harryesq@aol.com> wrote:
Ever see what happens = when electronic systems for buildings of that size are on fire? =A0I'm = no engineer, but I reckon that sometimes they explode. =A0Uh, because = they're on fire, not because the President made it happen. =A0Just a = guess.
------Original Message------
From: Sam Nilsson
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
ReplyTo: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Aug = 4, 2008 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... = Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers'Laptops Confiscated...

Sam Nilsson = wrote:
> For instance I have seen video of people who were in the = basement of one
> of the two main towers who said that bombs = exploded in the basements of
> the buildings. There seem to be a = number of eyewitnesses to this story.

I meant to say "I have = seen video of people who were in the *lobby* of
one of the two main = towers".

Sorry for the extra noise,
- Sam


=
Sent from my BlackBerry=AE smartphone with = SprintSpeed



-- =
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent = to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from = "Cosmos"
=


= --Apple-Mail-3--932963837-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 23:35:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 048813BF10; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=ixDZzwKRUdVLcB7v92wV8Os5l7eXeNqLwu6ShiuXQLw=; b=NQuAfy2AB1CcgouNsPw6gKLXI0/F++EhQPyNpwsAjxhzjr/G+FYyA5CGBTGWB21rVm NLBVsRAaw1FHeAgrL1CC2DHyk5JmCWnYFysCbVN0ynuh+IBy2lNMhpJf+po2MdZZOsn5 jzC5UxJj61N5CHh5IEbDEHTA9WjoeQA/u+DWA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Ratt7Y+tBnSS0Qvb33ngNaFvDlt5FkUWPqMchOTKipZ/ZjQO3EB7xZZ6T6f/zjraO+ 20kG/joz0k1OqLqbzHBu/8dZiQaybeGWoRZn/rh0MmbdI5N709PIX+dBNCKj4WQRCD32 lVzaj7n26efUZGTQIu/v4LX9V2Q5y759u0Sgw= Message-ID: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:35:50 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Optimizing Windows for looping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21423_2965574.1217892950851" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:35:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21423_2965574.1217892950851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In my last email, I asked about looping in linux, not really expecting much because i did look for a suitable audio environment before i asked, and hoped maybe someone here knows more than I do. Anyways, I like windows, but I have an issue with all the background processes and all the extra space windows takes up. Does anyone have any tips to fine-tuning windows so that really all that runs is bidule and the VST's and VSTi's and nothing else? (or at least nothing unnecessary?) Thanks, Charlie ------=_Part_21423_2965574.1217892950851 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
In my last email, I asked about looping in linux, not really expecting much because i did look for a suitable audio environment before i asked, and hoped maybe someone here knows more than I do. Anyways, I like windows, but I have an issue with all the background processes and all the extra space windows takes up. Does anyone have any tips to fine-tuning windows so that really all that runs is bidule and the VST's and VSTi's and nothing else? (or at least nothing unnecessary?)


Thanks,
Charlie
------=_Part_21423_2965574.1217892950851-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 23:41:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3174E3BF0F; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=/8Z/VVivOYC+85ip2zDr5ViE4DkOt03mFCzS1UV653Y=; b=xcHL6WTCxcysxN/gW3qDp29aNQBoEfDVqlM3kr8eTo2fuIa4s5kuGtydwjjA9BigKE yKL4newYUBt7JRw+7rL5pm7B+2Xovqq7/jmcll2udm6448sJ7vWOJUNa4cDgJJTEvIVm 39dTJ0U7PkjjPvRNkG7Km63Z3o4b5oYrutBh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YcYhfCJzvz697oTqx8rihObSVk2BEmlz0e8spa7QLj9pOhr560SU22TQS6w2nWoEAb 1H5RpMvGQQdzUuyhkFCwtRVn/xh2YCC3lBrKcWsYMdHP1XqOCl5pNx5+a70399CplFKA ubu2fdepPOtyfjxax4DbjrIEokeDfbn4X+k0M= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808041641n799ba8e1h36ac6b881366f3b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:41:27 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: my apologies...drum loops MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_35787_29930390.1217893287162" Resent-Message-ID: <8dU1AC.A.W3.pO5lIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:41:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_35787_29930390.1217893287162 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was being rhetorical with my questions in my last email, but one needs inflection to impart cynicism. My bad. And starting this was my bad. I only intended to send a link for people to check some things out, not overtake the looping threads. I hope those that are interested look into it more. Whoever isn't, that's fine. I'm sorry if I've pissed anyone off. Now, who's a looper that wants to do some heavy off beat stuff with a looping drummer in Baltimore?... On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > Doesn't there have to be some kind of explosive to explode? And would > > electrical blasts in the basement really blow out all the windows, and > > lift people up, that were in the lobby? > > So many tough questions being asked. Perhaps you would receive more > useful answers if you directed them at people that knew something > about explosives, structural engineering, electrical systems, and the > psychology of terrified humans. If you're that passionate about your > "research" spend less time on conspiracy web sites and more time > talking to knowledgeable people that aren't inclined to agree with you > for ideological reasons. Zeal is not always a positive influence > on critical thinking. > > Jeff > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_35787_29930390.1217893287162 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I was being rhetorical with my questions in my last email, but one needs inflection to impart cynicism. My bad.

And starting this was my bad. I only intended to send a link for people to check some things out, not overtake the looping threads. I hope those that are interested look into it more. Whoever isn't, that's fine. I'm sorry if I've pissed anyone off.

Now, who's a looper that wants to do some heavy off beat stuff with a looping drummer in Baltimore?...

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:

> Doesn't there have to be some kind of explosive to explode? And would
> electrical blasts in the basement really blow out all the windows, and
> lift people up, that were in the lobby?

So many tough questions being asked.  Perhaps you would receive more
useful answers if you directed them at people that knew something
about explosives, structural engineering, electrical systems, and the
psychology of terrified humans.  If you're that passionate about your
"research" spend less time on conspiracy web sites and more time
talking to knowledgeable people that aren't inclined to agree with you
for ideological reasons.  Zeal is not always a positive influence
on critical thinking.

Jeff




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------=_Part_35787_29930390.1217893287162-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 4 23:43:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 582473C0A8; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Bs+/4s2GNhRHQcCsMCIys5ctD1a/7/kBzbRd3VKKUtnrZj77zFTbB+N9xIql0LZ8; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <9F530FE1-7DF5-4E84-A467-6E15DEFFA533@earthlink.net> From: Paul Sullivan To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-81--931942918 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: NYC gig: LAMBIC w/Percy Jones (Brand X) @ the Stone Weds. Aug. 6th Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:43:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 2cf92e4390c98b9b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec790a2fb351d0ae513ff79f480a01926f70350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.239.145.131 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:43:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-81--931942918 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI, Jim I just sent you an email reply off list. That was a past gig I referred to at the Tea Lounge, this Wednesday's gig at the Stone, Ave C and 2nd St. @ 10 pm. We had a rehearsal with Percy a few days ago that went really well, and we're quite looking forward to this gig. If anyone from LD comes, please come up and say hi. Thanks, Paul http://paulsullivan.com Subject: Re: NYC gig spam: LAMBIC w/special guest Percy Jones (Brand X) @ the Stone Weds. Aug. 6th Gadzooks! Brand X well remembered and congrads on being associated with Percy. That collective really takes me back as well ages me Paul. Is it the Tea Lounge in Park Slope on Union? I live in Park Slope. I have a question about the TL that I'd like to email you off list, I'll chk your site for your contact. Jim Goodin www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Paul Sullivan wrote: Hi, everyone Lambic is very happy to be furthering our association with the great fretless bassist Percy Jones. We first played with Percy at the Tea Lounge back in April. That gig was very well received and so we knew we had to do it again. This performance is at the Stone, the premiere experimental and avant-garde music performance space started by John Zorn. The Stone is located on the corner of Avenue C and east 2nd Street. We'll be doing one set this Wednesday starting at 10 pm. For more info on the Stone: http://www.thestonenyc.com/ for more on Percy Jones http://percyjones.net/ and for more on Lambic http://www.myspace.com/lambic And yes, there is much loopage going on, with a Headrush, PDS 8000, Line 6 DL-4, and multiple Booomerangs. Thanks, and hope to see you at this very special gig. Please come up and say hi! __________________ http://paulsullivan.com --Apple-Mail-81--931942918 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI, Jim
I just sent you an email reply = off list. That was a past gig I referred to at the Tea Lounge, this = Wednesday's gig at the Stone, Ave C and 2nd St. @ 10 pm. We had a = rehearsal with Percy a few days ago that went really well, and we're = quite looking forward to this gig. If anyone from LD comes, please come = up and say hi.


Subject: Re: NYC gig spam: LAMBIC w/special = guest Percy Jones (Brand X) @ the Stone Weds. Aug. = 6th


Gadzooks!  = Brand X well remembered and congrads on being associated with = Percy.  That collective really takes me back as well ages me = Paul.  Is it the Tea Lounge in Park Slope on Union?  I live in = Park Slope.  I have a question about the TL that I'd like to email = you off list, I'll chk your site for your = contact. 
 
Jim Goodin
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=


 
On Mon, Aug 4, = 2008 at 2:35 PM, Paul Sullivan <paulsull@earthlink.net> = wrote:
Hi, = everyone Lambic is very happy = to be furthering our association with the great fretless bassist Percy = Jones. We first played with Percy at the Tea Lounge back in April. That = gig was very well received and so we knew we had to do it again. This = performance is at the Stone, the premiere experimental and avant-garde = music performance space started by John Zorn. The Stone is located on = the corner of Avenue C and east 2nd Street. We'll be doing one set this = Wednesday starting at 10 pm. For more info on the Stone: http://www.thestonenyc.com/ for more on = Percy Jones http://percyjones.net/ and = for more on Lambic And yes, = there is much loopage going on, with a Headrush, PDS 8000, Line 6 DL-4, = and multiple Booomerangs.

Thanks, and hope to see you at this = very special gig. Please come up and say = hi!
__________________






= --Apple-Mail-81--931942918-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 00:42:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9028C3C003; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080804204214.67F2Y.76937.imail@fed1rmwml29> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:42:14 -0400 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: my apologies...drum loops Cc: Dave In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808041641n799ba8e1h36ac6b881366f3b2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:42:15 +0000 (UTC) I've set up an un-official blog site for whomever wants to continue this topic off the LD list. i sent out some invitations, if you're interested. Tom ---- Dave wrote: > I was being rhetorical with my questions in my last email, but one needs > inflection to impart cynicism. My bad. > > And starting this was my bad. I only intended to send a link for people to > check some things out, not overtake the looping threads. I hope those that > are interested look into it more. Whoever isn't, that's fine. I'm sorry if > I've pissed anyone off. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 00:52:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C36C3C0A4; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DC654ftVmRxRpAEQlVm19UtdSJUJqp1iFlZfb6uob3I=; b=fAKmFGxkmwMMjgkDc0+IfqSpQVcFw464jiyDGuT5aoWCeeqzYlnp6WfTjvLL1iI7gp xZ4Z5Bk6CZRuEPI5Xu0p7NGQzmKP85BUWID0943zTVU0eHh4BzTUvUBvycbGvSeGMB82 XRipqTHK8qLryNbx2ezOqZV4YUrBttwgMNmeg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=LlA6uAEWLJdDjV7tuou0QvL1qHTqc8y7Geq+pO5OgcbcqmmMXtV0ywFdsmpxK8TGpA XaH88Rg510MHe5NWoWZOc0dtDi6fmw0+oOzoKfBTL7a58dSpizDxGGOgiz8AV/j67Reo jhgK6FiImoq9bezt+9onWSBVLeZK9ra1YbdUQ= Message-ID: <588ce11d0808041752s4e81284are016a7521f2fa081@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:52:33 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping In-Reply-To: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Hi Charlie, I don't have vista, I'm running windows xp. My biggest tip is to make sure you turn off iTunes if you have it installed. For some reason iTunes is always running. If you bring up the Windows task manager, you can safely turn off "iPodService.exe" and "iTunesHelper.exe." That will noticeably reduce the CPU load. The other program to watch for is Open Office. If you do a default installation, Open Office will always run in the background sucking CPU cycles. I'm sure there are other applications that do this as well, but those were the two trouble makers on my computer. I noticed that the windows xp music tuning page http://www.musicxp.net/dnn/ now requires a log in. I found the advice on the page useful, and it's probably worth following their recommendations. I was surprised though that none of the things that page recommended dropped the processor load as much as simply turning off iTunes. By and large, Windows XP is actually pretty well set up for music. Good Luck! On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Charlie Milkey wrote: > In my last email, I asked about looping in linux, not really expecting much > because i did look for a suitable audio environment before i asked, and > hoped maybe someone here knows more than I do. Anyways, I like windows, but > I have an issue with all the background processes and all the extra space > windows takes up. Does anyone have any tips to fine-tuning windows so that > really all that runs is bidule and the VST's and VSTi's and nothing else? > (or at least nothing unnecessary?) > > > Thanks, > Charlie > -- Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 01:03:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D2BB3C0AA; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1114 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:03:58 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:45:06 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping In-Reply-To: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.co m> References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20080805004523.4488714DCF@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:03:58 +0000 (UTC) If you do a search for music optimizing you'll find all sorts of articles, but here are a few that helped me. http://www.audioforums.com/resources/windows-xp-optimization.html http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=11119 http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar02/articles/pcmusician0302.asp http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm probably the best single source that I used was http://www.musicxp.net you have to subscribe but it's cheap, $4.00 for a lifetime subscription. Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca At 07:35 PM 8/4/2008, you wrote: >In my last email, I asked about looping in linux, not really >expecting much because i did look for a suitable audio environment >before i asked, and hoped maybe someone here knows more than I do. >Anyways, I like windows, but I have an issue with all the background >processes and all the extra space windows takes up. Does anyone have >any tips to fine-tuning windows so that really all that runs is >bidule and the VST's and VSTi's and nothing else? (or at least >nothing unnecessary?) > > >Thanks, >Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 01:08:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 113CB3C0A6; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:08:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <70f68b660808041808l4278f69flce659f6ec2df6072@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:08:54 -0600 From: "holotone@gmail.com" Sender: cole@holotone.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: is there a Bidule-type program that can run on Ubuntu linux? In-Reply-To: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_55805_9589734.1217898534491" References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7a01f21d9365a7b2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:08:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_55805_9589734.1217898534491 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm not terribly familiar with Bidule, but after reading a description it looks as if it bears at least a passing resemblance to Max/MSP; If that's the case, pD may be right up your alley: http://puredata.info/ It, like most anything else you'd want, can be installed via Add / Remove programs or by using any other package manager. And count me amongst those who would passionately disagree that Linux isn't for musicians - The low latency and interconnectivity provided by JACK alone is enough to make this a world-class platform. SooperLooper, Ardour, and Hydrogen are some of my favorite apps no matter the platform - It's only a bonus that they run at their best under Linux. If you have any questions about making the leap, don't hesitate to contact me off-list. ~holotone http://holotone.net/ On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Charlie Milkey wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I figure this is on the topic of looping, as Bidule is the environment I am > planning on using on my hopefully-soon move to software looping--anyways, I > was thinking instead on going through windows or mac for an operating > system, I think it would be cool to have linux and make it a somewhat > single-use computer and have it so it really only can run the modular audio > environment and the VSTs that I have too. > > anyways, I really like Bidule. I would love to use it on a linux computer > and go from there--does anyone know if there is one like it that can run on > Ubuntu Linux? > also, are VST OS-specific? i have a feeling they are, and that might make > things a little more difficult than I expected! > > > Thanks for any advice! > > Charlie > ------=_Part_55805_9589734.1217898534491 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm not terribly familiar with Bidule, but after reading a description it looks as if it bears at least a passing resemblance to Max/MSP; If that's the case, pD may be right up your alley:

http://puredata.info/

It, like most anything else you'd want, can be installed via Add / Remove programs or by using any other package manager.

And count me amongst those who would passionately disagree that Linux isn't for musicians - The low latency and interconnectivity provided by JACK alone is enough to make this a world-class platform. SooperLooper, Ardour, and Hydrogen are some of my favorite apps no matter the platform - It's only a bonus that they run at their best under Linux.

If you have any questions about making the leap, don't hesitate to contact me off-list.

~holotone
http://holotone.net/


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Charlie Milkey <pilotcp@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I figure this is on the topic of looping, as Bidule is the environment I am planning on using on my hopefully-soon move to software looping--anyways, I was thinking instead on going through windows or mac for an operating system, I think it would be cool to have linux and make it a somewhat single-use computer and have it so it really only can run the modular audio environment and the VSTs that I have too.

anyways, I really like Bidule. I would love to use it on a linux computer and go from there--does anyone know if there is one like it that can run on Ubuntu Linux?
also, are VST OS-specific? i have a feeling they are, and that might make things a little more difficult than I expected!


Thanks for any advice!

Charlie

------=_Part_55805_9589734.1217898534491-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 02:33:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8ED33C096; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00bd01c8f6a3$9d3d94e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Eddie Vedder: LIVE LOOPER Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:33:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:33:16 +0000 (UTC) This just in from a guy on the Guided By Voices forum that my wife is on: " I saw Eddie Vedder Friday night. .... he performed a nice mix of songs from his soundtrack album (Into The Wild), PJ songs, and covers. He did James Taylor's "Millworker," and totally cast a song by someone whom I dismiss in another light entirely. The highlight of the show was "Arc." He used tape loops (editor: actually live loops) to create layered wordless vocals and the effect was jawdroppingly powerful. Liam Finn opened (and joined EdVed for two songs). He uses tape loops extensively, playing drums and electric guitar on the loops. His music is a lot more abrasive/noisy in regular live gig than on record or at an acoustic in-store. While his voice and many of his songs are reminscent of his Split Enz/Crowded House/Finn Brothers lineage on record, he's a noisy indie rocker live and would probably win over a lot of people who wouldn't think they'd like his music." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 05:41:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 542373C08B; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 05:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=UJcSCC0jpALHP9dT6WoN+E9zW4JIZhp9UVvGvgDIR4Y=; b=xdJJ/7S+mbQVNmR05VzjbY2dsSl7XxaQLdFJmpfxYolx3XDjxqnfA/M+7p9rkVQEy/ tNEf9TgL7Rt7FoQ+ibGfzSRePz9Q/je/+sL7vE3GN+ZC1FbLG6whXewf5UZiUlD2rGLI 6Fks1HZphLViGBgRmV1hjrX+70GaIIzmViCn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=nShhdbIH9onmZ0hViT3oHhh/hOO/oCqHwekJ4QYhL1s4b4M+Inul5AWLN8brEfGGjf dnj3L/qjXGg62k5qHfa0cBQ2P3QqYmB5XY8FKp8wAM6wUcFDd1H/lWDRXrvn1+03VgoT byaU+RQ3oeV66lRJrP6UIFUErc6m7K3Rn06a8= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:41:52 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: SYNC: plex as master MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_421_26448962.1217914912395" Resent-Message-ID: <2LS88.A.GCB.hg-lIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 05:41:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_421_26448962.1217914912395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline does anybody come around to capture some kind of tempo map,from MIDI out of the plexi when used as master? ... i've tried to record the midi out but it seems there is not MIDI clock going into... just some note events instead. does somebody do this in ableton live? i can't. just slavering the ableton while in play mode but neither ableton keeps automating its tempo envelope. i supose it's possible to program a patch in bidule/max for converting this pulse notes (subcycl.,cycle,loop,..) into a regular map file. just trying weird things on vacancy... does SUSInsert not rounded/quantized (!?) crashes the EDP immediatelly if pressed initially? raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_421_26448962.1217914912395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
does anybody come around to capture some kind of tempo map,
from MIDI out of the plexi when used as master? ...

i've tried to record the midi out but it seems there is not MIDI clock going into...
just some note events instead.

does somebody do this in ableton live? i can't.
just slavering the ableton while in play mode but
neither ableton keeps automating its tempo envelope.

i supose it's possible to program a patch in bidule/max
for converting this pulse notes (subcycl.,cycle,loop,..) 
into a regular map file.

just trying weird things on vacancy...

does SUSInsert not rounded/quantized (!?) crashes the EDP
immediatelly if pressed initially?


raul.
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 07:17:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7308B3C096; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 56927740/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.179.36 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.179.36 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvkDANSal0hPTrMk/2dsb2JhbAAIimujL4M6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,309,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="56927740" Message-ID: <4897FE6E.7010803@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:17:02 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0808041752s4e81284are016a7521f2fa081@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0808041752s4e81284are016a7521f2fa081@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-lfBNC.A.KiC.x5_lIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:17:05 +0000 (UTC) On a new WinXP Laptop the thing I found that made most difference was changing the Power profile to "Always On". Usually, laptops slow down the processor to save battery life, and bring it up to speed as needed, which is a nice idea unless you're trying to run audio at minimum latency ( the "speed up" isn't fast enough to prevent glitching) andy butler Art Simon wrote: > recommendations. I was surprised though that none of the things that > page recommended dropped the processor load as much as simply turning > off iTunes. > > By and large, Windows XP is actually pretty well set up for music. Good Luck! > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Charlie Milkey wrote: >> In my last email, I asked about looping in linux, not really expecting much >> because i did look for a suitable audio environment before i asked, and >> hoped maybe someone here knows more than I do. Anyways, I like windows, but >> I have an issue with all the background processes and all the extra space >> windows takes up. Does anyone have any tips to fine-tuning windows so that >> really all that runs is bidule and the VST's and VSTi's and nothing else? >> (or at least nothing unnecessary?) >> >> >> Thanks, >> Charlie >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 08:23:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A4A43C094; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00e601c8f6d4$877328b0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Quickee Windows Laptop Looping advice sought from the Oldbies on this list Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:23:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:23:25 +0000 (UTC) PC laptop live loopers,I would love to have your advice about a purchase I'm considering for a laptop live looping solution. Tigerdirect.com currently has this laptop for sale: ACER ASPIRE 5520=5156 notebook PC with AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile TL-56 processor 250GB Harddrive, 2GB of DDR2 memory 15.4 inch WXGA (1280-800 resolution) Widescreen display NVIDIA GeForce graphics and high Speed DVD Burner It comes with Windows Vista Home Premium OS but I'd switch that out with a WIN XP Service Pack 3 system. The whole thing is $599. Can I use this with impunity for a live looping situation running Plogue Bidule and Mobius (until Matthias Grob releases the official version of the EDP-V software that he's been working on)? Mac guys, thanks for your expertise but I don't want to be talked out of running a Windows system for this particular laptop setup. And yes, I know about all of the evils of Windows and all the salient reasons why I'd be a fool to buy a Windows laptop. I actually already have a Mac Book Pro with the overly pricey heavy weight graphics card in it but I need two laptops..........one to run real time ineractive video graphics and one to run my looping apps. And I would only run audio on this computer with no internet connection whatsoever, EVER!!!! Any advice or cautions would be appreciated. This is stupid cheap. I"ve never seen anything with this many options for so little. At the same time I don't know if the AMT Turion Dual Core processor will be a good solution for real time audio manipulation. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 09:04:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE5903C09A; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WrW5wcWGrricpP6M6ehCl2BZWldEhJ1n0eL46dh0h28=; b=LA7acr6SiqDmTCtXR6HzFCTPn4zZ+CMn+zNKwY6U6v90a2vIethK6rg1I7+rm54JHw HCVdJlzu1hMGqUr5c/FaFkOyjwHXEWvA7BD5oPab+WtEE2vYy2VBWGnILb0JENKdyIzr xyExOD6SyB9ssYNW2t9Ol0P4Y8xgFYqlc3rKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=TulIKhomqIuGtHpa+t9RYb94lfJq7oeXkKRRcRaVH49jcZ3pPr8T9FfIwf7qbXMEIX xeM7X6Bkc29aszFHnNVzHYHYnxs3lVb1x5ap/1YAMQeTAkkruY43loB/lYOKmsDLspnT buU3LSEw5VtdS+JgbhgYFkb2ei4ANJxLwR0jg= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808050204p75fc8252rb7b890528382e776@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:04:50 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Quickee Windows Laptop Looping advice sought from the Oldbies on this list In-Reply-To: <00e601c8f6d4$877328b0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <00e601c8f6d4$877328b0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: <930joB.A.m-D.0eBmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:04:52 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > At the same time I don't know if the AMT Turion Dual Core processor will be > a good solution for real time audio manipulation. I have no idea either, but that seems to be he main point here. Try free up some time to google the issue! There was a time when the Intel processor was a better choice because of the available routines that would let programmers optimize their software code to be run more efficiently on this processor, by having the code call certain processor built-in shortcuts to execute certain tasks faster. For some reason more software developers cared to support Intel's optimization routines than AMD's, which led to more applications offering the user a higher rate of "bang-for-cpu-cycles" on Intel, although AMD produced some processors that boasted more raw power. But as for today, I have no idea if software code CPU optimization really plays a major role any more. Also, the heat issue has been to Intel favor. Google on that as well. Check for good articles at the usual hardware sites like Tom's Hardware, http://www.anandtech.com/, www.laptop.net/ etc Also, check those companies that sell pre configured PC's for music applications. Do they sell this model? -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 09:21:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CB713C090; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:21:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=fLr9t2ePnr6pa85cdyc8fSJdRrUCdFe1kIgrWANnb/0=; b=IVLPErA/FEO0iyLC812RlcXlpsdjBFZeojqBBuhFMPrpi5ufO8QYXxfuw55hLkAarx uqxy5CAr5GbpSSe4g2NDUy99dIe4+fOUISew/5mEEsG/E19ruwQLYIemhnQlziJBv6RP zHpC9jXKZAjSDnaq07nUW/D0LBq73XUNxc9IE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Gh2MY8/5fE0vG1Oj6UjhymMz+tOnoj/CSB7QRAYMlv8iHflPhqMPHAlxd+HkPks+3x pEDnQXMbRhrKb882k9f8TOnxV8lnhI82iyrUrccTXp+e1Jnr39/AJ3ucW6PjfZBqjXzM MNWhWOp30sGC/H2oZmK5ewsLNBZz0HRNbSNWU= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:21:03 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping In-Reply-To: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:21:04 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Charlie Milkey wrote: > Anyways, I like windows, but > I have an issue with all the background processes and all the extra space > windows takes up. Does anyone have any tips to fine-tuning windows so that > really all that runs is bidule and the VST's and VSTi's and nothing else? > (or at least nothing unnecessary?) You don't have to go into system tweaks for a stable XP audio rig. Back in the days when Windows XP was new, many people looked into system tweaking just by old habit, since that had been the trick for making Windows 98 a much better audio system. My XP laptops for audio are stable and this is all I do to them: - Deactivate CD/DVD burner. - Deactivate all network hardware. - Turn off screen saver. - Turn off energy saving programs. - Set the "skin" to the least CPU intensive ("Classic" with no animations etc) Do not upgrade Windows. Do not install any other software than the applications you need for the music rig. If some music software needs an online authorization I temporarily activate the network port to do this. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 09:34:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96E2E3C0AA; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=uPRWlif7c9Op9zIi+vvwDCrAQUeeGRb81lx7fznXBzY=; b=xrTZAaL54HKCGcSyramJz/RDo+rUNuknCtZqnQPeCOn1cLeXhvq7A1IypjunMjGUrd SMe6n52AFQEQ5rXQx6PFINwWsl1MeQhf0Mbz8HYJi0vARlxgmziRMzRZm1xhxkdUoEgN aVrer3f3R9wmV8IOqBSIl1xbZZoE07ZmoJk0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=La7VWV5gbF2Rg8ocbUaKiQCFORqYSe0lioaqlGfUazARJtI6IqxgWiwG8e1lK4T9wQ 6jIjRP2VXFYUsjbt8TNj/w2r80u0pi/wsMImSBq6MGDQ+qMikSQB836CADtB9DzlIXIt rgV1vd2GV7QSC/Tb++d0iyjnPbijbozNv1F8k= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808050234m660dd1a1vba2d325ccded644c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:34:46 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SYNC: plex as master In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: <1xVhVB.A.IdE.36BmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:34:48 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > does anybody come around to capture some kind of tempo map, > from MIDI out of the plexi when used as master? ... The Echoplex doesn't create tempo maps. It stays on the same tempo until you change it, then it simply starts sending out the new tempo right away (MIDI Clock, pulse or Brother Sync). > i've tried to record the midi out but it seems there is not MIDI clock going I recorded the beat pulse output on a computer DAW track when running the Echoplex as master (Sync=Out). Then I played the computer and synced the Echoplex to the audio pulse. It worked fine. > does somebody do this in ableton live? I'm not sure you can record the MIDI Clock data. But Ableton Live can be synced to an incoming MIDI Clock stream. Live doesn't sync very accurately though, because of the tempo smoothing. When I record with loopers and want good syncing to software DAW's I usually loop first - with no sync, so the looper will spin freely. I record the audio from that looping session and then apply the DAW's time grid to what I played with the looper. There is no machine that can do tempo sync as good as human hearing, simply because machines don't understand music. The machine has to wait until the tempo drifts and then start making corrections - but for the listening humans the musical feel has already gone havoc by then ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 09:50:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07A223C0A0; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 56994613/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.179.36 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.179.36 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvkDAGK/l0hPTrMk/2dsb2JhbAAIimujU0WCdQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,309,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="56994613" Message-ID: <48982278.2040601@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:50:48 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Excellent :-) The one other tweak I'd do is Control Panel>>System>>Advanced>>click performance settings then Advanced>>> select "Background services" for the greater share of processor time. ..and while there Visual Effects>>select "adjust for best performance" (which is the last one in Per's list) As I understand it, the audio drivers count as a background service. This is the most often recommended tweak. I think it might be worth mentioning that Asio drivers should be used for the lowest latency. If Asio drivers are not available for an interface, then there's a utility called Asio4All which somehow magically transforms the windows drivers into low latency Asio. When buying a new setup, the only way that I know to ensure it's going to work well is copy someone's existing combination of pc and audio interface. andy butler Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Charlie Milkey wrote: >> Anyways, I like windows, but >> I have an issue with all the background processes and all the extra space >> windows takes up. Does anyone have any tips to fine-tuning windows so that >> really all that runs is bidule and the VST's and VSTi's and nothing else? >> (or at least nothing unnecessary?) > > > You don't have to go into system tweaks for a stable XP audio rig. > Back in the days when Windows XP was new, many people looked into > system tweaking just by old habit, since that had been the trick for > making Windows 98 a much better audio system. My XP laptops for audio > are stable and this is all I do to them: > > - Deactivate CD/DVD burner. > - Deactivate all network hardware. > - Turn off screen saver. > - Turn off energy saving programs. > - Set the "skin" to the least CPU intensive ("Classic" with no animations etc) > > Do not upgrade Windows. Do not install any other software than the > applications you need for the music rig. If some music software needs > an online authorization I temporarily activate the network port to do > this. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 10:16:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3BBD3C0B1; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=+7Kze2PkMbxhqQLYXFxG1/h4dSujpzzg4YySHQJVKkE=; b=LUguwG2q0V+uFlXVX12KPz0Mlt/eFlNSfTUq48vl5kaPqRp96skgw/5aL8LA7CEfm3 KXbEEreohWnDm80jVqwKpoH0MqTpLja6BOjjmVYnV/aShx3mlUBBrNXKtybBYkFKvkCN xcsGPcPIuYPBGoqyxgO7G0LuBXNIKxiVo9GZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=FH7PkW1kGKvXw06Udv1GwCK5EuOvs+yWCEDRC1U3rpYhcXt0VQcHlJoz1bPYFvrdtQ 7AHtb51iHftAMX+9RsFsQml764rATtsUHE1wiUAY+yt+dUoVtSHvr7YHR6HR5TRH5k5v IWLRG/20KOQCrL8qXCCpW7hR3wJngU2QO3MWE= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808050316h23a2f495h50ab7b1b679e8137@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:16:37 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Quickee Windows Laptop Looping advice sought from the Oldbies on this list In-Reply-To: <00e601c8f6d4$877328b0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2617_17491276.1217931397063" References: <00e601c8f6d4$877328b0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7926e82777881ce9 Resent-Message-ID: <_zvPwB.A.QIF.GiCmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:16:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2617_17491276.1217931397063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm considering for a laptop live looping > solution. Traitor!!! PS, gonna sell yer EDP's and Looperlative now?? wink wink nudge nudge say no more? -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_2617_17491276.1217931397063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
I'm considering for a laptop live looping
solution.




Traitor!!!






PS, gonna sell yer EDP's and Looperlative now?? wink wink nudge nudge say no more?

--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_2617_17491276.1217931397063-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 11:08:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E291A3C0AF; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=LmyPcsFBVjLVQ7H5+kIkAwUGcqRKkyRZnDJPzs25sUI=; b=GRJSIrmNMhaC8KAx0zk7+zwMsTlwAdNDOegxnIS2CJkykxBnxT6onelNgqX0NccCP8 AwZ3z9Ouu2316v0LRM4xWmVwgPRL4H+d4dsGVcfmkw5IgJynF1CZaELQdIMbyZjvNg3Y JSeYsAuv4tLUgLd5uxNDmBmgUWS5zjB9ADUHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=EB4zrXKaEtZ2ZFNRQvq9XJBBbG2/OcMeucpYUoK7/a+dABq5giUwf/Csmsefa/Y2az yJlx5h9UdZsfn3ptEtS0iBQK0byb6LhikkZLwEzJit6goWvBPertardC7aKMCDu+Wm3h 8kgZyj8TyagODLrs8X85bR4JXFf3XTbtgZxTI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808050408j465c3be5k22f5feed058907e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:08:06 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for looping? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I just noticed this guy that makes six output guitar pick-ups. Seems like a way more expensive option than buying a FireWire guitar or the Moog Guitar: http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-guitars.html You should be able to use six loopers, one for each string. That would make the guitar + looper a new instrument that no one have yet played. Much less pedal tapping needed, as this looping instrument would be more like a piano, i.e. more options instantly available for direct playing. By playing the same note on a different string you overdub it into the next looper etc. He, he... playing that monster looper would demand more brain exercise than finger exercise ;-) Exciting stuff! I once used a MIDI guitar for looping samples set up as one sample per MIDI Channel and string, but with this pick-up you should be able to do it with real audio (which IMHO is cool with guitars). -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 11:49:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 059A93C0A0; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ixLe19mcnavjEZHHMHdd6/qPzYr5AL0WnZ6xJgKfWns=; b=MSjx6uQCQTk8ULYp0uihM8w2tOWjRLgxng0wBrMFrp97e4aKn5pT/FUPRPJ4CHP14p DbYwDRw+otdFhb4rlPlny0KfmIYEBVUFn1NQkFRZm4qqqQyEbf8YriLUBkm5qH97pO9Y EkfikX4cAVe9Dk8wlcIGHsi2XlZuTbh6Dj2jw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=m4nfplMh/MMlkfl8YLl1xZ3tFjsNEtHFBlM01EsR9PX2XyGKmOl2uzqYvrg40t/gpA 5GGUTR/Jm0WuSEVm++o1pgHb3EepR9V3mxVgWmJCn8NbHeQ80YNCKPCKgGbX3w25uC/M 8GKwr2BYzIAR0lHlwv9e+UVfLv2jbnJtQiB70= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 06:49:04 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for looping? In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808050408j465c3be5k22f5feed058907e5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32303_17482837.1217936944385" References: <66f9cc1e0808050408j465c3be5k22f5feed058907e5@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:49:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_32303_17482837.1217936944385 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cool! Thanks for posting that. I've been looking for some kind of backup for my Copeland hex pickup (not to mention people keep writing me asking about it). I use the Copeland to split the strings so I can have a bass sound (via Chili Dog octave divider) on the bottom 2 strings and a guitar sound on the top 4. Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_32303_17482837.1217936944385 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Cool! Thanks for posting that. I've been looking for some kind of backup for my Copeland hex pickup (not to mention people keep writing me asking about it). I use the Copeland to split the strings so I can have a bass sound (via Chili Dog octave divider) on the bottom 2 strings and a guitar sound on the top 4.


Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net
------=_Part_32303_17482837.1217936944385-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 11:55:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AA443C0B1; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=4jV+2uc2PcCYYygP7jpDewHI1XNiVt8WX88S0dOIH/U=; b=INeUAvqkap4hy3PSgMB1jL8XhuYwPtx9F2NPjnaVgRwPDPrjR+ZAVK+mRK2mHwhnN+ s+MwiKGH+Gz4ZAkLJz1AyQgPj8i2P91PE3jIfW/i9oWKxax34jjCSbkpcyZBgmuYTVo5 Zf6+P+XdFFJREIpysT997nv6VDChO4ePfMabE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=podu1wNWmhP1p6LTZOIrp6QhAOs3rXZjkzneQluVh6m6peV6PML9tlvMnKKZ1ZR7cu /C5IlEY7c4acxG5U7VYmUzJiNnQ/AfONruDQRN//aV7beSXIbIv657A7ZjavATSpMBd7 KsiHRG4h25aGHVIqMAYO2Tp4c+oFxeBsZ22FY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:55:10 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <0vlvCC.A.szG.e-DmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Found an article that might interest some: "Ligeti's Artikulation: What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like? What does music look like? With new sounds and new technologies, the question is more apt than ever." http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/04/ligetis-artikulation-what-might-future-digital-notation-look-like-plus-twitter-finds/ I found this article and the video inspiring. But frankly, do we really need notation in the digital world? If both the sounding hardware and the documentations are digital, everything needed is already there inside the box. "Digital Notation" is an anachronism to me. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 12:31:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81C4F3C0AC; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=h6zipMKEddSmAlX0P+S62bARBGwqRKrikG1M9oK4fSU=; b=qg1h50KSUNPe2oPIb8yjIMbqqyTayV3VUKL55LWwo/Ddpxn+aiUj+nK77gBOkJe4MU igJzzEj69Tca2ZwW/lTEetxTqmgTWMXGEWGptAWk209+nDFtKLF+ngkW+Wi7ZtD4xDdK Th0yLOJQPCwjVMhKF0pnajHGmGu/6xw2q6sLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=CcQd01X0DTwUaohQR/EFzNtnXNXfo+FUB2CD5rQoH0wxrhIhbCM6sdxZHpQRDtalNJ 4HmzCN1wKGCTEVF7Izpp8uEv/1FPJyUdNw1f/kkZrJy/Y4n2NN7+FG0+SXq+bp7XYUPZ ZvedbgF+1AkdVA5qYLNRF+re9fP6BSdOjY1gM= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:31:12 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for looping? In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808050408j465c3be5k22f5feed058907e5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4052_24955448.1217939473003" References: <66f9cc1e0808050408j465c3be5k22f5feed058907e5@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:31:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4052_24955448.1217939473003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline As much as I love my Godin (bless 'em!) ... I WANT ONE. NOW! Much cheaper than a GK pickup and all the other stuff that goes with it ... must dig deeper into this. Dennis (who still has all four of his Vortexes and had to endure Tim Nelson's jesting about "Only ONE Vortex tonight?") On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I just noticed this guy that makes six output guitar pick-ups. Seems > like a way more expensive option than buying a FireWire guitar or the > Moog Guitar: > > http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-guitars.html > > You should be able to use six loopers, one for each string. That would > make the guitar + looper a new instrument that no one have yet played. > Much less pedal tapping needed, as this looping instrument would be > more like a piano, i.e. more options instantly available for direct > playing. By playing the same note on a different string you overdub it > into the next looper etc. He, he... playing that monster looper would > demand more brain exercise than finger exercise ;-) > > Exciting stuff! I once used a MIDI guitar for looping samples set up > as one sample per MIDI Channel and string, but with this pick-up you > should be able to do it with real audio (which IMHO is cool with > guitars). > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > ------=_Part_4052_24955448.1217939473003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

As much as I love my Godin (bless 'em!) ... I WANT ONE. NOW!

Much cheaper than a GK pickup and all the other stuff that goes with it ... must dig deeper into this.

Dennis (who still has all four of his Vortexes and had to endure Tim Nelson's jesting about "Only ONE Vortex tonight?")


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I just noticed this guy that makes six output guitar pick-ups. Seems
like a way more expensive option than buying a FireWire guitar or the
Moog Guitar:
http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-guitars.html

You should be able to use six loopers, one for each string. That would
make the guitar + looper a new instrument that no one have yet played.
Much less pedal tapping needed, as this looping instrument would be
more like a piano, i.e. more options instantly available for direct
playing. By playing the same note on a different string you overdub it
into the next looper etc. He, he... playing that monster looper would
demand more brain exercise than finger exercise ;-)

Exciting stuff! I once used a MIDI guitar for looping samples set up
as one sample per MIDI Channel and string, but with this pick-up you
should be able to do it with real audio (which IMHO is cool with
guitars).

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com


------=_Part_4052_24955448.1217939473003-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 12:52:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D601C3C0B3; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=HuE71nEksSej+6Ol2PzeohmRNC8MBO4yEw+uWWnMa6E=; b=ZLoblelisEVhXmDn1J11znq6OsSGiwDq8Sz7g0fI4y+KCvbd9DQzBrKaH7/ay0QXod YxSilhrmswhc8VexzYQPZV5UieE1SdV7gD8gKmdnmrB3H/Cy2Q3ivzmoHS4TodvKJNB6 KKePiTOxt+KLUMl/jAJpoP7LTgnvInyoptj50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=psbzlg6AjoY9NK5OOYjSW3+GpyOxoedFrmg0CymIFVWbxpMr6bcOB8BIV2KPe1/Y6M +O0nk2YZ3T9zWVRzccQehPbqvHDL8EvE2DzVrbKTgqMw3aob7nOI+3ZWWDfZX7DEe9l0 LBsEJ0H0L0Y9937bgYVIGt5V7mA3yRVaChFr0= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:52:16 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4245_14134052.1217940736604" References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5_dS_C.A.21H.C0EmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:52:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4245_14134052.1217940736604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hehe ... Per, I respectfully disagree. The boxes change and, often, disappear with time. Notation is a means of transcending time (what Alfred Korzibski might have described as a "time-binding" mechanism) when you have the appropriate context. The study of how to share "the essence" of a musical presentation is one of significant historical importance and thinking back to our recent discussions about "unplugged looping", this should spark some soul-searching. Or maybe it's just too early in the morning over here in the US! Best, Dennis On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Found an article that might interest some: > > "Ligeti's Artikulation: What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like? > What does music look like? With new sounds and new technologies, the > question is more apt than ever." > > > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/04/ligetis-artikulation-what-might-future-digital-notation-look-like-plus-twitter-finds/ > > I found this article and the video inspiring. But frankly, do we > really need notation in the digital world? If both the sounding > hardware and the documentations are digital, everything needed is > already there inside the box. "Digital Notation" is an anachronism to > me. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > ------=_Part_4245_14134052.1217940736604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Hehe ... Per, I respectfully disagree.

The boxes change and, often, disappear with time. Notation is a means of transcending time (what Alfred Korzibski might have described as a "time-binding" mechanism) when you have the appropriate context.

The study of how to share "the essence" of a musical presentation is one of significant historical importance and thinking back to our recent discussions about "unplugged looping", this should spark some soul-searching.

Or maybe it's just too early in the morning over here in the US!

Best,

Dennis


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Found an article that might interest some:

"Ligeti's Artikulation: What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?
What does music look like? With new sounds and new technologies, the
question is more apt than ever."

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/08/04/ligetis-artikulation-what-might-future-digital-notation-look-like-plus-twitter-finds/

I found this article and the video inspiring. But frankly, do we
really need notation in the digital world? If both the sounding
hardware and the documentations are digital, everything needed is
already there inside the box. "Digital Notation" is an anachronism to
me.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com


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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:48:41 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: <-rwF6C.A.rT.XEFmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:09:43 +0000 (UTC) I'm spending my holydays in the beautifull Ireland, specifically in Galway (on the west coast), till 19th august (but i'm planning to go in Dublin for a few days too). Any loopers here to share a good Guinness with ? Please let me know privately. fabio www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 13:32:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DBA53C0C6; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2070 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:32:54 UTC Message-Id: <379B2622-9F30-4B4F-A00C-0115AF3F20BD@steve-lawson.co.uk> From: Steve Lawson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Eddie Vedder: LIVE LOOPER Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:58:19 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:32:54 +0000 (UTC) >>>.... he performed a nice mix of songs from his soundtrack album (Into The Wild), PJ songs, and covers. He did James Taylor's "Millworker," and totally cast a song by someone whom I dismiss in another light entirely.<<< Wow. There are people in the world who 'dismiss' James Taylor? Weird. The-JT-Lovin-Steve Where to find me on the web - _______________________ ********************************* *** www.stevelawson.net - shiny new site *** www.stevelawson.net/blog - blog *** www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson *** www.reverbnation.com/stevelawson *** www.twitter.com/solobasssteve *** http://www.youtube.com/user/StevieSteve46 - loads of new video here! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 13:50:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B36A3C0C5; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=uktdCLRmybJnjXS1BKod+zOBJHZYV3yy032gckyhRyA=; b=KmdYge+7JaOIZj+L0WxaPYnoZU6J48E9r7IK/6uQLnsIBeChdv3AdQoyFmz5pnEYK5 goOjWJK1jQVwjIz4PKx/BbQf6aZeWzOt/xifhVJBBlbJkp7P1WdfL15hQAwNHvdLV+lX ZNW0FIr7BvDbOtGDnnpbsNnphiI/apSNrwD+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=FssWLtMYoikXBQRtr8JD+WMLfGDOBPIC4NWaVkj7vGO3wmUA5QBW8by04Dq0fBtqQe OyVjUiHoDlkKB6cGataNVHqXt5CJ+7xRgwpiv03KEi9uVeaoB9wssPribo6Fa7CrAihq R5bj5/3nFX46Y+H++a1pTmFAe6r+VyUYAwOws= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808050650q4ab2270cie7594773353b19fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:50:40 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Quickee Windows Laptop Looping advice sought from the Oldbies on this list In-Reply-To: <200808051252.m75CqQor011941@post.webmailer.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200808051252.m75CqQor011941@post.webmailer.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:50:41 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:52 PM, wrote: > > The only question mark that's left - I don't know about Acer's reputation...anyone? > > Rainer Colleges have warned me that they crap out quickly. But that's not only Acer, many pc manufacturer's low line cost models suffer from this; ie a quality to be generally understood. One reason is that the low cost models may be used to test new hardware parts (sort of guinea pig model) to see if these parts can be trusted for using in more expensive models. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 14:01:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 007A93C0CC; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=yDn0Uq5UeOfZYwX/fnMMTyESsfcHcST0jkNdyKs16XM=; b=tFasCg59iFxsyg+fat3/FVb3joRr+JgdrHNbJ6SoDawPHWYf+adWcxkR32TI1WG5Rs ilQ5Y3E93XZ0B6tt1LMguQbyEEFS6RgWppE2gFF9FW8pjxQeg5gTJ8/OS6i/nyD4npRr AwKmVcHHnfkzNVJ6eeEvS9eFcGNWFYGUiwVBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Mdh7yF08lDe4OhpOANA9Z3qa7yK4sHdQ/yQADGwM6HSzSvZR54MNKi6sKOGonu9Y+Q 5vtP+YIltnsf0ZeM41VBolOHk4nghZVlGSi+93fQJuzA10eRbJe/3TLsWJijHLek2S8t GITO0pSnn74VWniJ31ho/4hRF5Tw5BW/9ob94= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:01:15 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:01:28 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Hehe ... Per, I respectfully disagree. > > The boxes change and, often, disappear with time. Notation is a means of > transcending time (what Alfred Korzibski might have described as a > "time-binding" mechanism) when you have the appropriate context. > > The study of how to share "the essence" of a musical presentation is one of > significant historical importance and thinking back to our recent > discussions about "unplugged looping", this should spark some > soul-searching. Sure! But you do disagree with what I did not say! ;-)) I said that I don't see a point with notation "in the digital world". But notation is not for the digital world - it is for humans! I for one would hail a way to bring over "the essence" of music, since I totally rely on my own ontological system for dealing with music. Although imperfect, notation still is one of our times most fascinating time machines! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 14:05:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AB203C0D2; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6B04C083A98F4AA3B6CB932B8B22C9A2@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:05:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <2iPagB.A.JRB.n4FmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Totally agreed, Per. When I got my new ThinkPad T60p, I got obsessed with trying to tweak it so that I could be confident all possible power and memory was going to my software/looping rig. In the end, I could not tell any difference. I used to disable the networks, wireless, etc, but now I don't even do that. I even have Norton AntiVirus, which is a huge memory sucker (just look at what it consumes in the app manager), and now I don't even deactive it. I would mess with things ONLY if there is a problem with your audio software...in short, go with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach. I once had a major issue with my Digidesign mBox on an older XP machine. ProTools would crash when recording, but only at some venues. It took me a week to realize that it was caused by the wireless being on, yet there not being any access point for it to connect to. I disabled the wireless, rebooted, and the problem went away. But if there had not have been a problem, I wouldn't have touched anything. All this being said, and to Rick's question, knowing what I know now, I will never by a PC again for music. My next laptop will be a macbook pro. All positive PC user experiences aside, I hear less about issues with mac users than with PC users, regarding compatibility, drivers, clicks, etc. The quads are out now, right? Kris ----- Original Message ----- > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Charlie Milkey wrote: > > You don't have to go into system tweaks for a stable XP audio rig. > Back in the days when Windows XP was new, many people looked into > system tweaking just by old habit, since that had been the trick for > making Windows 98 a much better audio system. My XP laptops for audio > are stable and this is all I do to them: > > - Deactivate CD/DVD burner. > - Deactivate all network hardware. > - Turn off screen saver. > - Turn off energy saving programs. > - Set the "skin" to the least CPU intensive ("Classic" with no animations > etc) > > Do not upgrade Windows. Do not install any other software than the > applications you need for the music rig. If some music software needs > an online authorization I temporarily activate the network port to do > this. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 14:07:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 050163C0D9; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> <48982278.2040601@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:07:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Oh, there is one thing I would do. Turn that damn Windows introduction music off so that it doesn't play when it reboots! :) Wow. At one gig, I had my laptop plugged into the PA, and turned up loud, and that Windows tune shook the house. /K Talk about embarassing. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 14:47:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F3BF3C0D3; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:47:24 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=fifow4C7++7yRpC8gr0jPU3xz+BOcaeZeQp1BNjtTGdszSREGQEfA7IW3KQFMFlHCcqcuyYHgN4tyIrovQ/6EB9WHNhPDuOI7mWyebHXGgTNI6jVzGrKVuI+mwfwEIRysgRxXFkMGHfXMEJnaptMmtQSz0Xrn35Ex+DqgIx2FiM=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:40:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Diatonis Reply-To: diatonis2@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080805125219.6BCA83C0BA@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <907833.71801.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Thank you for finding this. I think it would also be great for spatialization in 5.1 or 3D. The stereo mp3 did sound like each string was somewhat isolated. Stuart Diatonis http://www.diatonis.com/ > Hi, > > I just noticed this guy that makes six output guitar > pick-ups. Seems > like a way more expensive option than buying a FireWire > guitar or the > Moog Guitar: > http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-guitars.html > > You should be able to use six loopers, one for each string. > That would > make the guitar + looper a new instrument that no one have > yet played. > Much less pedal tapping needed, as this looping instrument > would be > more like a piano, i.e. more options instantly available > for direct > playing. By playing the same note on a different string you > overdub it > into the next looper etc. He, he... playing that monster > looper would > demand more brain exercise than finger exercise ;-) > > Exciting stuff! I once used a MIDI guitar for looping > samples set up > as one sample per MIDI Channel and string, but with this > pick-up you > should be able to do it with real audio (which IMHO is cool > with > guitars). > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 14:50:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C9F83C0DC; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=8XAEu9Q0oTzl5gqEbCN5UfU65UpWVIkujWGkmYmua5A=; b=NoLbsmlu9NH+hCod4futKn73AHBpAcGpkJlaHD3nKnItyKT/8Wm8tkgbjbJGkA757q K+iosmoOp5U+fs3MKJIRYZOlCPRDT4CI2YeJevwJGHq6pG+ez8seu1Fmg74prScnXMqs qLDdGOq+rkEB3u2gWgxxPN2yOS2NYR/9yoNto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=cX4Q+r6Lc33TopyIP38WY/h89scHGtKNrC1YmG4x6T4XdCvZwQAKKG83Rj1UrCPqdH WJ44Bnl60t18Ht8S4+1eo1HvziGhGAWoZtIIzGdyaf5GsYdT/Ph6ObZsBsNhH5kjD7tf qE8s0reGliUHqdpLrPkmTXreR1PBQf0B1Qk6M= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808050750q6af82411y4c16b571eeca4f0a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:50:20 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping In-Reply-To: <6B04C083A98F4AA3B6CB932B8B22C9A2@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_44449_22306357.1217947820787" References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> <6B04C083A98F4AA3B6CB932B8B22C9A2@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:50:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_44449_22306357.1217947820787 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline One thing with Norton...you can set its priority for 'background' scanning a) when the computer is idle, and b) when it's active, in its config. If you tell it to have low priority, when it does kick on, it's somewhat negligible. This may, however, lead to not ever finishing a total scan, depending on how long you have your comp on. Also, I believe 'active' and 'idle' refer to user participation, so if it's just processing file(s) and you're not actually using the mouse and keys, it considers itself idle. If you have it to run at high priority when idle, it may still slow the "lights out" processing of your files. On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Totally agreed, Per. When I got my new ThinkPad T60p, I got obsessed with > trying to tweak it so that I could be confident all possible power and > memory was going to my software/looping rig. In the end, I could not tell > any difference. I used to disable the networks, wireless, etc, but now I > don't even do that. I even have Norton AntiVirus, which is a huge memory > sucker (just look at what it consumes in the app manager), and now I don't > even deactive it. > > I would mess with things ONLY if there is a problem with your audio > software...in short, go with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach. > I once had a major issue with my Digidesign mBox on an older XP machine. > ProTools would crash when recording, but only at some venues. It took me a > week to realize that it was caused by the wireless being on, yet there not > being any access point for it to connect to. I disabled the wireless, > rebooted, and the problem went away. But if there had not have been a > problem, I wouldn't have touched anything. > > All this being said, and to Rick's question, knowing what I know now, I > will never by a PC again for music. My next laptop will be a macbook pro. > All positive PC user experiences aside, I hear less about issues with mac > users than with PC users, regarding compatibility, drivers, clicks, etc. > > The quads are out now, right? > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Charlie Milkey wrote: >> >> You don't have to go into system tweaks for a stable XP audio rig. >> Back in the days when Windows XP was new, many people looked into >> system tweaking just by old habit, since that had been the trick for >> making Windows 98 a much better audio system. My XP laptops for audio >> are stable and this is all I do to them: >> >> - Deactivate CD/DVD burner. >> - Deactivate all network hardware. >> - Turn off screen saver. >> - Turn off energy saving programs. >> - Set the "skin" to the least CPU intensive ("Classic" with no animations >> etc) >> >> Do not upgrade Windows. Do not install any other software than the >> applications you need for the music rig. If some music software needs >> an online authorization I temporarily activate the network port to do >> this. >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> www.stockholm-athens.com >> >> > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_44449_22306357.1217947820787 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
One thing with Norton...you can set its priority for 'background' scanning a) when the computer is idle, and b) when it's active, in its config. If you tell it to have low priority, when it does kick on, it's somewhat negligible. This may, however, lead to not ever finishing a total scan, depending on how long you have your comp on.

Also, I believe 'active' and 'idle' refer to user participation, so if it's just processing file(s) and you're not actually using the mouse and keys, it considers itself idle. If you have it to run at high priority when idle, it may still slow the "lights out" processing of your files.

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
Totally agreed, Per. When I got my new ThinkPad T60p, I got obsessed with trying to tweak it so that I could be confident all possible power and memory was going to my software/looping rig. In the end, I could not tell any difference.  I used to disable the networks, wireless, etc, but now I don't even do that.  I even have Norton AntiVirus, which is a huge memory sucker (just look at what it consumes in the app manager), and now I don't even deactive it.

I would mess with things ONLY if there is a problem with your audio software...in short, go with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach. I once had a major issue with my Digidesign mBox on an older XP machine. ProTools would crash when recording, but only at some venues. It took me a week to realize that it was caused by the wireless being on, yet there not being any access point for it to connect to. I disabled the wireless, rebooted, and the problem went away. But if there had not have been a problem, I wouldn't have touched anything.

All this being said, and to Rick's question, knowing what I know now, I will never by a PC again for music. My next laptop will be a macbook pro. All positive PC user experiences aside, I hear less about issues with mac users than with PC users, regarding compatibility, drivers, clicks, etc.

The quads are out now, right?

Kris

----- Original Message -----
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Charlie Milkey <pilotcp@gmail.com> wrote:

You don't have to go into system tweaks for a stable XP audio rig.
Back in the days when Windows XP was new, many people looked into
system tweaking just by old habit, since that had been the trick for
making Windows 98 a much better audio system. My XP laptops for audio
are stable and this is all I do to them:

- Deactivate CD/DVD burner.
- Deactivate all network hardware.
- Turn off screen saver.
- Turn off energy saving programs.
- Set the "skin" to the least CPU intensive ("Classic" with no animations etc)

Do not upgrade Windows. Do not install any other software than the
applications you need for the music rig. If some music software needs
an online authorization I temporarily activate the network port to do
this.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com





--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_44449_22306357.1217947820787-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 15:38:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 184253C0E1; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 56177600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8F711.4FC2C7F2" Subject: RE: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for looping? Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:38:30 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A6651CE@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for looping? Thread-Index: Acj3EU/LkKUIep6UTIaNfulJToq0Ow== References: From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2008 15:38:30.0920 (UTC) FILETIME=[50070080:01C8F711] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:38:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8F711.4FC2C7F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-gui tars.html =20 d'you think there'll be a bass version with four coils? I need to make my rickenbacker 4001 drive a midi converter.... :-) =20 duncan.=20 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and=20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. Communicating by email is not 100% secure and carries risks such as delay,=20 data corruption, non-delivery, wrongful interception and unauthorised=20 amendment. If you communicate with us by e-mail, you acknowledge and=20 assume these risks, and you agree to take appropriate measures to minimise=20 these risks when e-mailing us.=20 MTV Networks International, MTV Networks UK & Ireland, Greenhouse,=20 Nickelodeon Viacom Consumer Products, VBSi, Viacom Brand Solutions=20 International and Comedy Central are all trading names of MTV Networks=20 Europe. MTV Networks Europe is a partnership between MTV Networks Europe=20 Inc. and Viacom Networks Europe Inc. Address for service in Great Britain=20 is UK House, 180 Oxford Street, London W1D 1DS, UK. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8F711.4FC2C7F2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C8F711.4FC2C7F2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 15:40:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32B4A3C0E6; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 56178390 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Eddie Vedder: LIVE LOOPER Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:40:42 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A6651CF@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <00bd01c8f6a3$9d3d94e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Eddie Vedder: LIVE LOOPER Thread-Index: Acj3EZ6TQwPqLZzpQW2E213FH9Pg1A== References: <00bd01c8f6a3$9d3d94e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: "Rick Walker" , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2008 15:40:43.0213 (UTC) FILETIME=[9EE14FD0:01C8F711] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:40:45 +0000 (UTC) >>This just in from a guy on the Guided By Voices forum that my wife is on: " I saw Eddie Vedder.... 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 15:43:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1D5A3C0EA; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=x0uE4rqi15TsI5WMRfmNhLJKWLVIgEE5jns0k5vCpdg=; b=OdtjCvzacEIcL+4CwIJ+qVe0DuxXXAKDi5ooqAuWPLJwGrRRbYdWGjAXZklW/dTI6U MhUr9sBq7B88y0q1o+hl14Ez9F+ImIbxsbaqdHxDm5AcpZziu9aJSdOoMoFhM3ApizOs qfOsIHjAnmdl2RQ+im8efPJE+8zbKRON1H37o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=rUfwc0oImY7yh3lI4nb8VUDUgQvq5nhf7zZ6bF6olX5NkIKlsTo9uMyqwu0fFYD7AT 2mQ00KibzsywaBmCfjGp83QJ7OZ7PF962wttvvaBuUegYJ2XwcW4I1EuglgDKFg222o0 BtxZHTH2YvNSA1E17aGQVPnF1OLlEJKAXxhjA= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:43:06 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SYNC: plex as master In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808050234m660dd1a1vba2d325ccded644c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8149_10476736.1217950986710" References: <66f9cc1e0808050234m660dd1a1vba2d325ccded644c@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9my8DD.A.bbD.LUHmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:43:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8149_10476736.1217950986710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/5 Per Boysen > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > > does anybody come around to capture some kind of tempo map, > > from MIDI out of the plexi when used as master? ... > > The Echoplex doesn't create tempo maps. It stays on the same tempo > until you change it, then it simply starts sending out the new tempo > right away (MIDI Clock, pulse or Brother Sync). > > Yes. Which is a pitty since it stops the slave daw when creating a new loop on the fly. Must be a way of doing the plex do not send the Stopsong message, when I erase the first loop? Maybe I could ignore it with a filter in the daw ... Bidule I recorded the beat pulse output on a computer DAW track when running > the Echoplex as master (Sync=Out). Then I played the computer and > synced the Echoplex to the audio pulse. It worked fine. > how? did you kept the clock changes? since it's this what i'm behind... > > > does somebody do this in ableton live? > > I'm not sure you can record the MIDI Clock data. NO > But Ableton Live can > be synced to an incoming MIDI Clock stream. Live doesn't sync very > accurately though, because of the tempo smoothing. > I can do this in a live situation, just that i can't keep all the tempo changes for later post-production. let's say i could accomodate other tempo tracks in the studio. for instance, a reason groove, or whatever ... > > When I record with loopers and want good syncing to software DAW's I > usually loop first - with no sync, so the looper will spin freely. I > record the audio from that looping session and then apply the DAW's > time grid to what I played with the looper. That's the only solution I think. Also, as appears in the plex manual, it's a good idea to save, anyway, the signal from MIDI out from the plex, so you can identify the record-stop, multiply-record (unquant. multy), unquant-inserts... et,etc, .. on a midi track. > There is no machine that > can do tempo sync as good as human hearing, simply because machines > don't understand music. ;-) ... this is my per lesson of the day ! > The machine has to wait until the tempo drifts > and then start making corrections - but for the listening humans the > musical feel has already gone havoc by then ;-) > I've been testing some slow tempos with the Garritan Jazz plugin and the drums are really smooth ... Live drifts a bit, and sometimes lasts a while 'til he founds a good (bad) tempo ... but no matter ... quite often works, others no ... thanks per, raul. > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_8149_10476736.1217950986710 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/5 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> does anybody come around to capture some kind of tempo map,
> from MIDI out of the plexi when used as master? ...

The Echoplex doesn't create tempo maps. It stays on the same tempo
until you change it, then it simply starts sending out the new tempo
right away (MIDI Clock, pulse or Brother Sync).


Yes. Which is a pitty since it stops the slave daw when creating a new loop on the fly. Must be a way of doing the plex do not send the Stopsong message, when I erase the first loop? Maybe I could ignore it with a filter in the daw ... Bidule
 


I recorded the beat pulse output on a computer DAW track when running
the Echoplex as master (Sync=Out). Then I played the computer and
synced the Echoplex to the audio pulse. It worked fine.

how? did you kept the clock changes? since it's this what i'm behind... 
 

> does somebody do this in ableton live?

I'm not sure you can record the MIDI Clock data.

NO
 
But Ableton Live can
be synced to an incoming MIDI Clock stream. Live doesn't sync very
accurately though, because of the tempo smoothing.

I can do this in a live situation, just that i can't keep all the tempo changes for later post-production. let's say i could accomodate other tempo tracks in the studio. for instance, a reason groove, or whatever ... 
 

When I record with loopers and want good syncing to software DAW's I
usually loop first - with no sync, so the looper will spin freely. I
record the audio from that looping session and then apply the DAW's
time grid to what I played with the looper.

That's the only solution I think. Also, as appears in the plex manual, it's a good idea to save, anyway, the signal from MIDI out from the plex, so you can identify the record-stop, multiply-record (unquant. multy), unquant-inserts... et,etc, .. on a midi track.

 
There is no machine that
can do tempo sync as good as human hearing, simply because machines
don't understand music.

;-)  ... this is my per lesson of the day !
 
The machine has to wait until the tempo drifts
and then start making corrections - but for the listening humans the
musical feel has already gone havoc by then ;-)

I've been testing some slow tempos with the Garritan Jazz plugin and the drums are really smooth ... Live drifts a bit, and sometimes lasts a while 'til he founds a good (bad) tempo ... but no matter ...  quite often works, others no ... 

thanks per,
raul.



--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_8149_10476736.1217950986710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 16:08:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDC7D3C0E9; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=R12dhRWoOqJNHpCBR/KwaVJNHLa9o18EFpXyqp1HH/E=; b=PNUlDSifoed2nAn929RSYAXm7pw28Egnjfx+r3QXCZAumwv/0GEQaXlAI8YNE0q/fx W003g9hvr0RRvRpZy9HP2COjrhk83SizEiFYgJFPiWLXeb2LVxJTShpb+A2Az/WxLByd c+cSxKlJt1bJfZ4eYjimVj9wG5C1v1znuM2bs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=CmddfhYA8g1oXkFcsYZhvpvLKOMiQmvcVMzBumvRUoh+vSTtKxZA808ZdUxV8U5yB+ Qxbm1qYrYD0mwy+T9J2Z240ATZJhZvwMWnz7Ewu4kWtM8zbn2xf70bLoiU/Be2ydYyoW EBrTCOcydh8w04WHZEZfvxffgrVLJ5Z6w0Unk= Message-ID: <913728d60808050908s7f40b40fuec3b45078557ff39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:08:34 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808050750q6af82411y4c16b571eeca4f0a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4413_25958532.1217952514198" References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> <6B04C083A98F4AA3B6CB932B8B22C9A2@americas.hpqcorp.net> <499c6bd70808050750q6af82411y4c16b571eeca4f0a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0T0Fp.A.H6D.CsHmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:08:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4413_25958532.1217952514198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for all the tips! What i'd like to do is have a laptop that doesn't even have internet on it--to get VSTs and other software on the computer I will either burn them to a cd or use my jumpdrive--either way, I just want to make sure that windows isn't using its processing power towards things that I don't need! Thanks for the tips! Charlie On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Dave wrote: > One thing with Norton...you can set its priority for 'background' scanning > a) when the computer is idle, and b) when it's active, in its config. If you > tell it to have low priority, when it does kick on, it's somewhat > negligible. This may, however, lead to not ever finishing a total scan, > depending on how long you have your comp on. > > Also, I believe 'active' and 'idle' refer to user participation, so if it's > just processing file(s) and you're not actually using the mouse and keys, it > considers itself idle. If you have it to run at high priority when idle, it > may still slow the "lights out" processing of your files. > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Totally agreed, Per. When I got my new ThinkPad T60p, I got obsessed with >> trying to tweak it so that I could be confident all possible power and >> memory was going to my software/looping rig. In the end, I could not tell >> any difference. I used to disable the networks, wireless, etc, but now I >> don't even do that. I even have Norton AntiVirus, which is a huge memory >> sucker (just look at what it consumes in the app manager), and now I don't >> even deactive it. >> >> I would mess with things ONLY if there is a problem with your audio >> software...in short, go with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach. >> I once had a major issue with my Digidesign mBox on an older XP machine. >> ProTools would crash when recording, but only at some venues. It took me a >> week to realize that it was caused by the wireless being on, yet there not >> being any access point for it to connect to. I disabled the wireless, >> rebooted, and the problem went away. But if there had not have been a >> problem, I wouldn't have touched anything. >> >> All this being said, and to Rick's question, knowing what I know now, I >> will never by a PC again for music. My next laptop will be a macbook pro. >> All positive PC user experiences aside, I hear less about issues with mac >> users than with PC users, regarding compatibility, drivers, clicks, etc. >> >> The quads are out now, right? >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Charlie Milkey >>> wrote: >>> >>> You don't have to go into system tweaks for a stable XP audio rig. >>> Back in the days when Windows XP was new, many people looked into >>> system tweaking just by old habit, since that had been the trick for >>> making Windows 98 a much better audio system. My XP laptops for audio >>> are stable and this is all I do to them: >>> >>> - Deactivate CD/DVD burner. >>> - Deactivate all network hardware. >>> - Turn off screen saver. >>> - Turn off energy saving programs. >>> - Set the "skin" to the least CPU intensive ("Classic" with no animations >>> etc) >>> >>> Do not upgrade Windows. Do not install any other software than the >>> applications you need for the music rig. If some music software needs >>> an online authorization I temporarily activate the network port to do >>> this. >>> >>> -- >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >>> www.looproom.com (international) >>> www.myspace.com/perboysen >>> www.stockholm-athens.com >>> >>> >> > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > ------=_Part_4413_25958532.1217952514198 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Thanks for all the tips!

What i'd like to do is have a laptop that doesn't even have internet on it--to get VSTs and other software on the computer I will either burn them to a cd or use my jumpdrive--either way, I just want to make sure that windows isn't using its processing power towards things that I don't need! Thanks for the tips!


Charlie

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
One thing with Norton...you can set its priority for 'background' scanning a) when the computer is idle, and b) when it's active, in its config. If you tell it to have low priority, when it does kick on, it's somewhat negligible. This may, however, lead to not ever finishing a total scan, depending on how long you have your comp on.

Also, I believe 'active' and 'idle' refer to user participation, so if it's just processing file(s) and you're not actually using the mouse and keys, it considers itself idle. If you have it to run at high priority when idle, it may still slow the "lights out" processing of your files.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
Totally agreed, Per. When I got my new ThinkPad T60p, I got obsessed with trying to tweak it so that I could be confident all possible power and memory was going to my software/looping rig. In the end, I could not tell any difference.  I used to disable the networks, wireless, etc, but now I don't even do that.  I even have Norton AntiVirus, which is a huge memory sucker (just look at what it consumes in the app manager), and now I don't even deactive it.

I would mess with things ONLY if there is a problem with your audio software...in short, go with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach. I once had a major issue with my Digidesign mBox on an older XP machine. ProTools would crash when recording, but only at some venues. It took me a week to realize that it was caused by the wireless being on, yet there not being any access point for it to connect to. I disabled the wireless, rebooted, and the problem went away. But if there had not have been a problem, I wouldn't have touched anything.

All this being said, and to Rick's question, knowing what I know now, I will never by a PC again for music. My next laptop will be a macbook pro. All positive PC user experiences aside, I hear less about issues with mac users than with PC users, regarding compatibility, drivers, clicks, etc.

The quads are out now, right?

Kris

----- Original Message -----
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Charlie Milkey <pilotcp@gmail.com> wrote:

You don't have to go into system tweaks for a stable XP audio rig.
Back in the days when Windows XP was new, many people looked into
system tweaking just by old habit, since that had been the trick for
making Windows 98 a much better audio system. My XP laptops for audio
are stable and this is all I do to them:

- Deactivate CD/DVD burner.
- Deactivate all network hardware.
- Turn off screen saver.
- Turn off energy saving programs.
- Set the "skin" to the least CPU intensive ("Classic" with no animations etc)

Do not upgrade Windows. Do not install any other software than the
applications you need for the music rig. If some music software needs
an online authorization I temporarily activate the network port to do
this.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com





--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"

------=_Part_4413_25958532.1217952514198-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 16:21:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2B193C0F4; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080805111850.jn2u1w11c44gccow@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:18:50 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Eddie Vedder: LIVE LOOPER References: <00bd01c8f6a3$9d3d94e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A6651CF@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A6651CF@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Liam is Neil Finn's son... Quoting "Goddard, Duncan" : > > >>This just in from a guy on the Guided By Voices forum that my wife is > on: > > > " I saw Eddie Vedder.... > Liam Finn opened (and joined EdVed for two songs). He uses tape loops > extensively, playing drums and electric guitar on the loops. His music > is a lot more abrasive/noisy in regular live gig than on record or at an > acoustic in-store. While his voice and many of his songs are reminscent > of his Split Enz/Crowded House/Finn Brothers lineage on record, he's a > noisy indie rocker live and would probably win over a lot of people who > wouldn't think they'd like his music."<< > > thanks for this, rick- most interesting. > just one thing though- is the correspondent sure it was one of the > crowdies finn brothers? only, as I recall, they are called neil & > tim..... :-) > > duncan. > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by > copyright (and other intellectual property rights). 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Address for service in Great Britain > is UK House, 180 Oxford Street, London W1D 1DS, UK. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 16:22:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29C9B3C0F9; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1961 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:22:34 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.1 X-EN-IMPSID: yfps1Z00601P85W0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:49:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: RE: Eddie Vedder: LIVE LOOPER In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A6651CF@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.m tvne.ad.viacom.com> References: <00bd01c8f6a3$9d3d94e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A6651CF@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20080805162234.CDA3C3C0EF@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Liam is the son of Neil. At 2008.08.05 08:40 AM, Goddard, Duncan wrote: >" I saw Eddie Vedder.... >Liam Finn opened (and joined EdVed for two songs). He uses tape loops >extensively, playing drums and electric guitar on the loops. His music >is a lot more abrasive/noisy in regular live gig than on record or at an >acoustic in-store. While his voice and many of his songs are reminscent >of his Split Enz/Crowded House/Finn Brothers lineage on record, he's a >noisy indie rocker live and would probably win over a lot of people who >wouldn't think they'd like his music."<< > >thanks for this, rick- most interesting. >just one thing though- is the correspondent sure it was one of the >crowdies finn brothers? only, as I recall, they are called neil & >tim..... :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 16:53:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 938243C0F6; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 56181059 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Eddie Vedder: LIVE LOOPER Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:35:56 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A665262@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <20080805111850.jn2u1w11c44gccow@webmail.musetrap.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Eddie Vedder: LIVE LOOPER Thread-Index: Acj3GVV6GsjezdNeREqhtneIol6blg== References: <20080805111850.jn2u1w11c44gccow@webmail.musetrap.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2008 16:35:56.0516 (UTC) FILETIME=[55C33A40:01C8F719] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:53:37 +0000 (UTC) >>Liam is Neil Finn's son...<< ah-hah. well, then this: >>His music is a lot more abrasive/noisy in regular live gig than on record=20 > or at an acoustic in-store. While his voice and many of his songs are > reminscent of his Split Enz/Crowded House/Finn Brothers lineage....<<=20 makes more sense now. somehow the word "lineage" was too buried in there & it didn't occur to me to wiki the chap. my bad, as they say. d. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and=20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. Communicating by email is not 100% secure and carries risks such as delay,=20 data corruption, non-delivery, wrongful interception and unauthorised=20 amendment. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 16:55:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29E733C0FE; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=XACdOAIFx0NIY3YkYTxTGKvU4GsPC8I2CWXWEK1yQqI=; b=pT2HECmS82EGG5rBb5RE2+1skw7oq1yPb6VAg3vz6KtmscZ9c8Yh47LmJN/5aoZsG+ Fh3YgdT5i06ApF9yDp6BQm6F0R/exE9YBei5REPKQfSv1C7/unBszdSJcR429jOyBryS y4nAR3XaSgRWaSt9oqD8OboALnWibrfxxtXT4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=lS75/MxczCUT8ByRLQBtPHjldvLXeIMUOkJ7uMeEVeLykiprfD8tkDmlk2WyPJ8PA5 y5oGm7qxDjPNyUJc7ntOfgcpydZVlwPBXSv2Fp+X2XeId7pBIXI/uvs5DqRTM2nniR0Q lLYr7I2Q+G08KgeFPzoqfVrpBTy7QcmMrWEyU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:55:19 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7083_25138865.1217955319448" References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:55:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7083_25138865.1217955319448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I guess I may have misunderstood what you mean by "digital world", then? I agree: Notations are time machines. And then there is, of course, John Cage's "Notations" ... :-) Dennis On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Dennis Moser > wrote: > > Hehe ... Per, I respectfully disagree. > > > > The boxes change and, often, disappear with time. Notation is a means of > > transcending time (what Alfred Korzibski might have described as a > > "time-binding" mechanism) when you have the appropriate context. > > > > The study of how to share "the essence" of a musical presentation is one > of > > significant historical importance and thinking back to our recent > > discussions about "unplugged looping", this should spark some > > soul-searching. > > > Sure! But you do disagree with what I did not say! ;-)) I said that > I don't see a point with notation "in the digital world". But notation > is not for the digital world - it is for humans! I for one would hail > a way to bring over "the essence" of music, since I totally rely on my > own ontological system for dealing with music. Although imperfect, > notation still is one of our times most fascinating time machines! > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > ------=_Part_7083_25138865.1217955319448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

I guess I may have misunderstood what you mean by "digital world", then?

I agree: Notations are time machines. And then there is, of course, John Cage's "Notations" ... :-)

Dennis


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hehe ... Per, I respectfully disagree.
>
> The boxes change and, often, disappear with time. Notation is a means of
> transcending time (what Alfred Korzibski might have described as a
> "time-binding" mechanism) when you have the appropriate context.
>
> The study of how to share "the essence" of a musical presentation is one of
> significant historical importance and thinking back to our recent
> discussions about "unplugged looping", this should spark some
> soul-searching.


Sure! But you do disagree with what I did not say!  ;-))  I said that
I don't see a point with notation "in the digital world". But notation
is not for the digital world - it is for humans! I for one would hail
a way to bring over "the essence" of music, since I totally rely on my
own ontological system for dealing with music. Although imperfect,
notation still is one of our times most fascinating time machines!

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com


------=_Part_7083_25138865.1217955319448-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 16:56:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C1523C0FB; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1889 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:56:34 UTC Message-Id: <9BCAAB5B-8E44-49DD-BFFF-9EB8FC124B5D@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List In-Reply-To: <907833.71801.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:24:40 -0300 References: <907833.71801.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:56:45 +0000 (UTC) cross talk must be big, so it would not serve for polyphonic distortion or attack dependent processing thats why the previous polypickups like Roland GK2 is small and near the bridge - where it has little bass thats why the good solution is piezo Rolfspuler.com is going to sell his separately, eventually... Matthias On 5 Aug 2008, at 11:40, Diatonis wrote: > Thank you for finding this. > > I think it would also be great for spatialization in 5.1 or 3D. The > stereo mp3 did sound like each string was somewhat isolated. > > Stuart > Diatonis > http://www.diatonis.com/ > >> Hi, >> >> I just noticed this guy that makes six output guitar >> pick-ups. Seems >> like a way more expensive option than buying a FireWire >> guitar or the >> Moog Guitar: >> http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-guitars.html >> >> You should be able to use six loopers, one for each string. >> That would >> make the guitar + looper a new instrument that no one have >> yet played. >> Much less pedal tapping needed, as this looping instrument >> would be >> more like a piano, i.e. more options instantly available >> for direct >> playing. By playing the same note on a different string you >> overdub it >> into the next looper etc. He, he... playing that monster >> looper would >> demand more brain exercise than finger exercise ;-) >> >> Exciting stuff! I once used a MIDI guitar for looping >> samples set up >> as one sample per MIDI Channel and string, but with this >> pick-up you >> should be able to do it with real audio (which IMHO is cool >> with >> guitars). >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> www.stockholm-athens.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 17:54:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A7C53C0A7; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=G2SiKhI9xekxGT6efYrZp8hVOuDBJH4m/Em7vFphgTU=; b=xDLLIaT5p3vMQldgj0LmJuZAsb9L9B32Wj4YHzBudE7F74J7mi2UBNvpdcV1sGqKx8 1WTAVz7+TV7XzeQSHPoQ+Nu95lqS94am1bXYN/L9MeBFP75ptM0xlkl5lT636TsJjsyQ 1O6YI1xMCi4JG1z0bBL9BNpWjwcpkHjOTJbmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=DGpxhJcQ62E1k4fhOaRoOZ0+hx/BY7phvNUYwL0v+ZAET/en+cwSXA9Ur7k0DCF7BS wZzId/2qijIpfeLXrHHdtjlAN66s1tsLxRgSzJO9x0Oh5/0U8wGKoaaI7HO0P3wlZn4s JODRNLV01LEXagdOjtbMPh3MFzisHlVfZslhU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:54:55 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10798_31195045.1217958895668" References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9GxhlB.A.bIG.yPJmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:54:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10798_31195045.1217958895668 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline As regular praxis in composing competitions in the academic world jury bases their evaluations on the sheet papers and only the winners pieces are performed... At least the few I know round here ... raul. 2008/8/5 Dennis Moser > I guess I may have misunderstood what you mean by "digital world", then? > > I agree: Notations are time machines. And then there is, of course, John > Cage's "Notations" ... :-) > > Dennis > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Dennis Moser >> wrote: >> > Hehe ... Per, I respectfully disagree. >> > >> > The boxes change and, often, disappear with time. Notation is a means of >> > transcending time (what Alfred Korzibski might have described as a >> > "time-binding" mechanism) when you have the appropriate context. >> > >> > The study of how to share "the essence" of a musical presentation is one >> of >> > significant historical importance and thinking back to our recent >> > discussions about "unplugged looping", this should spark some >> > soul-searching. >> >> >> Sure! But you do disagree with what I did not say! ;-)) I said that >> I don't see a point with notation "in the digital world". But notation >> is not for the digital world - it is for humans! I for one would hail >> a way to bring over "the essence" of music, since I totally rely on my >> own ontological system for dealing with music. Although imperfect, >> notation still is one of our times most fascinating time machines! >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> www.stockholm-athens.com >> >> > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_10798_31195045.1217958895668 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
As regular praxis in composing competitions in the academic world jury bases their evaluations on the sheet papers and only the winners pieces are performed... 

At least the few I know round here ...

raul.

2008/8/5 Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>

I guess I may have misunderstood what you mean by "digital world", then?

I agree: Notations are time machines. And then there is, of course, John Cage's "Notations" ... :-)

Dennis


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hehe ... Per, I respectfully disagree.
>
> The boxes change and, often, disappear with time. Notation is a means of
> transcending time (what Alfred Korzibski might have described as a
> "time-binding" mechanism) when you have the appropriate context.
>
> The study of how to share "the essence" of a musical presentation is one of
> significant historical importance and thinking back to our recent
> discussions about "unplugged looping", this should spark some
> soul-searching.


Sure! But you do disagree with what I did not say!  ;-))  I said that
I don't see a point with notation "in the digital world". But notation
is not for the digital world - it is for humans! I for one would hail
a way to bring over "the essence" of music, since I totally rely on my
own ontological system for dealing with music. Although imperfect,
notation still is one of our times most fascinating time machines!

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com





--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_10798_31195045.1217958895668-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 18:00:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F0B03C0A8; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2zR1f1IWFoGAzE3Vv4N8FtLX/vZX6UhBuS3svFVDcro=; b=b7rntFchgTOSY0mHABwXsptGjGTk8oQsn243ArQfv2OuHM012RrmpRnBCGl7cMjk7T RUIdRsysWAkuf0AFu/EoSK98ZUI5JambxYunwkTDybSmo2okBrPuudJG3Io/HRk/0NVT my1sR7jwTGv++hl438Y7GXjgMcKeDSTruKZe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=camHFnVtavLSX43CUmnK3Pr1Jay6NgRyHUObDZKv+tZbeFiozin/dFI1/u8nf4YcUx QwG/sdPOFJnBsXhygGNnDXG/hoUfOW16/QoxEDZsxnVOI0dO31kb0Lsjwz6HL+OI0AaO 9Z/OkRLiNFowrLthGHfr8OUsuFRKo0+Mv6XB4= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:00:12 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping In-Reply-To: <48982278.2040601@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10935_26967760.1217959212112" References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> <48982278.2040601@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:00:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10935_26967760.1217959212112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > When buying a new setup, the only way that I know to ensure it's > going to work well is copy someone's existing combination of pc and audio > interface. > > andy butler this is the top maximum ! any other not tested combination is, at least, always risky. raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_10935_26967760.1217959212112 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


 
When buying a new setup, the only way that I know to ensure it's
going to work well is copy someone's existing combination of pc and audio interface.  

andy butler 


this is the top maximum !
any other not tested combination is, at least, always risky. 

raul.


--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_10935_26967760.1217959212112-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 18:02:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C08E3C0B7; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=OsvWjWjOkdC5pLPF43RCC5vkgXq2cbR3dvQDjhvoJVE=; b=gpqGEoz0pnzWcEEMEnQX81e0OW8dP/vBcJqTfR8g7AkyeIHAN3YA5WBgJiq6R60eFb Ku7xwl4OKxXgBvEOWrtg20ZhRGVOYoiXEvn+TifePviiDuOyvevhtPD4zG96qYIrxozR hqlO42cuVxP+tjT7APyp8FikP7mIn7HDHx7Vw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Tqt1JYHkZeJOtTN/b5xqppt0xkQXABjSeWUXTIm/l6fFUzlPrqqTQ3RhtrXl/yEXYM L7EBYBKdMLoldqJ+AWe/LMnEcKvhF7Ms4lT/hHIDSRwHdWCj3macxAjJtd7YFHXntiWM SoN+ElvpHGQE9pF0UXCZV59MkdBls5DsceOhs= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:02:34 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping In-Reply-To: <20080805004523.4488714DCF@ns4.tnt21.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11004_7948426.1217959354494" References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <20080805004523.4488714DCF@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:02:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11004_7948426.1217959354494 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i'm agree with paul. i get rid of balloons, tray icon always enlarged, no initial/final windows soundtrack, etc ... and other major registry tweaks that have made a huge improvement. a must for the live laptop loopist. raul. 2008/8/5 paul > > > probably the best single source that I used was http://www.musicxp.net you > have to subscribe but it's cheap, $4.00 for a lifetime subscription. > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_11004_7948426.1217959354494 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
i'm agree with paul. i get rid of balloons, tray icon always enlarged, no initial/final windows soundtrack, etc ... and other major registry tweaks that have made a huge improvement.

a must for the live laptop loopist.

raul. 

2008/8/5 paul <phaslem@wightman.ca>


probably the best single source that I used was http://www.musicxp.net you have to subscribe but it's cheap, $4.00 for a lifetime subscription.



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------=_Part_11004_7948426.1217959354494-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 18:09:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03A4D3C0BE; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=E3mqOqfxeGfj2LDkj+nAKTYG/Y9qFZz0pYTTV9cF9DM=; b=E5ToSG81j8geegj10d+HwRorCpU0MT/mbex2nPVC3MueYM/TuOoCeAhuJMMYkXut+C CDqCh9Wmsr8dXfQmH5yhQSdZ7o+D8vnvJAS+QfiUp+WnZ4pr9FCIdAxme7v4R2ww2JLd O3AF3+/PMEw5fwEKAnJzGjo6l+/PI49OIKXZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vAKRb8ZWmq8zV2kn1BwHoABGrXUmjRV4JTVGH8JjHixM2b/yoYmlINdpqOWJfLejz3 QkxR9pX29h14N75rTb1CXiSvEZF9fADskOf0J7AsIKZAVpixFlpxKaqPHcbu7/BXtuNE 21Bn1RgZCTpbpe+RZjM8qYMa4jiMpZT2X6clM= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:09:44 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for In-Reply-To: <9BCAAB5B-8E44-49DD-BFFF-9EB8FC124B5D@atarde.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11210_22268671.1217959785003" References: <907833.71801.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9BCAAB5B-8E44-49DD-BFFF-9EB8FC124B5D@atarde.com.br> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:09:47 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11210_22268671.1217959785003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline how this would improve triggering for my oberheim matrix-100. was kim who used to like the matrix?... ;-) raul. 2008/8/5 Matthias Grob > cross talk must be big, so it would not serve for polyphonic distortion or > attack dependent processing > thats why the previous polypickups like Roland GK2 is small and near the > bridge - where it has little bass > thats why the good solution is piezo > Rolfspuler.com is going to sell his separately, eventually... > > Matthias > > > On 5 Aug 2008, at 11:40, Diatonis wrote: > > Thank you for finding this. >> >> I think it would also be great for spatialization in 5.1 or 3D. The >> stereo mp3 did sound like each string was somewhat isolated. >> >> Stuart >> Diatonis >> http://www.diatonis.com/ >> >> Hi, >>> >>> I just noticed this guy that makes six output guitar >>> pick-ups. Seems >>> like a way more expensive option than buying a FireWire >>> guitar or the >>> Moog Guitar: >>> >>> http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-guitars.html >>> >>> You should be able to use six loopers, one for each string. >>> That would >>> make the guitar + looper a new instrument that no one have >>> yet played. >>> Much less pedal tapping needed, as this looping instrument >>> would be >>> more like a piano, i.e. more options instantly available >>> for direct >>> playing. By playing the same note on a different string you >>> overdub it >>> into the next looper etc. He, he... playing that monster >>> looper would >>> demand more brain exercise than finger exercise ;-) >>> >>> Exciting stuff! I once used a MIDI guitar for looping >>> samples set up >>> as one sample per MIDI Channel and string, but with this >>> pick-up you >>> should be able to do it with real audio (which IMHO is cool >>> with >>> guitars). >>> >>> -- >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >>> www.looproom.com (international) >>> www.myspace.com/perboysen >>> www.stockholm-athens.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_11210_22268671.1217959785003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
how this would improve triggering for my oberheim matrix-100. was kim who used to like the matrix?... ;-)

raul.

2008/8/5 Matthias Grob <matilists@atarde.com.br>
cross talk must be big, so it would not serve for polyphonic distortion or attack dependent processing
thats why the previous polypickups like Roland GK2 is small and near the bridge - where it has little bass
thats why the good solution is piezo
Rolfspuler.com is going to sell his separately, eventually...

Matthias


On 5 Aug 2008, at 11:40, Diatonis wrote:

Thank you for finding this.

I think it would also be great for spatialization in 5.1 or 3D.  The stereo mp3 did sound like each string was somewhat isolated.

Stuart
Diatonis
http://www.diatonis.com/

Hi,

I just noticed this guy that makes six output guitar
pick-ups. Seems
like a way more expensive option than buying a FireWire
guitar or the
Moog Guitar:
http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-guitars.html

You should be able to use six loopers, one for each string.
That would
make the guitar + looper a new instrument that no one have
yet played.
Much less pedal tapping needed, as this looping instrument
would be
more like a piano, i.e. more options instantly available
for direct
playing. By playing the same note on a different string you
overdub it
into the next looper etc. He, he... playing that monster
looper would
demand more brain exercise than finger exercise ;-)

Exciting stuff! I once used a MIDI guitar for looping
samples set up
as one sample per MIDI Channel and string, but with this
pick-up you
should be able to do it with real audio (which IMHO is cool
with
guitars).

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com









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TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_11210_22268671.1217959785003-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 18:12:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C9263C0C2; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=smZnuAxOOYHp+GpwacNdDtWgI7s5HDkkCg3iCXoG9SE=; b=UmYeWRC7nn0C6HQHviirtTbvQ9E4zYI87+r8g2u6A9gSQcPp2hoa1MUJ0pwrnotkNQ E5pl1mmZBawDOeR/zkFi9RRx0XRKuVgPxiUXNT+k6nTk95YyngS8ikzu2AzSAovKdGDN qB3kqd3vdvVM37PWno7PaYAPdwgEoLe5sBo7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=obC41/BANjA/UtuweX2L/MyZ7bThqedj1BxvpElLU8vD152KV9R2AEM7WgipaceAs3 UNgcrfu9xlVkZt7dSa2M4YIuxZViQodEaCBboEbg6CxKCkm5Ky8+TvadoR9D70K/IEcT rUHZFhgH8vo6jD1Kv7ZSHdYujjpYmeHV8WKYU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:12:51 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SYNC: plex as master In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11277_26919807.1217959971704" References: <66f9cc1e0808050234m660dd1a1vba2d325ccded644c@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <24tAIC.A.SmG.kgJmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:12:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11277_26919807.1217959971704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline would this be possible with mobius?could i record the clock track (if it's sent) from mobius (master) for later mixing tasks making it the master tempo in Live or other DAW? thanks, raul. 2008/8/5 Raul Bonell > > > 2008/8/5 Per Boysen > >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raul Bonell >> wrote: >> > does anybody come around to capture some kind of tempo map, >> > from MIDI out of the plexi when used as master? ... >> >> The Echoplex doesn't create tempo maps. It stays on the same tempo >> until you change it, then it simply starts sending out the new tempo >> right away (MIDI Clock, pulse or Brother Sync). >> >> > Yes. Which is a pitty since it stops the slave daw when creating a new loop > on the fly. Must be a way of doing the plex do not send the Stopsong > message, when I erase the first loop? Maybe I could ignore it with a filter > in the daw ... Bidule > > > > I recorded the beat pulse output on a computer DAW track when running >> the Echoplex as master (Sync=Out). Then I played the computer and >> synced the Echoplex to the audio pulse. It worked fine. >> > > how? did you kept the clock changes? since it's this what i'm behind... > > >> >> > does somebody do this in ableton live? >> >> I'm not sure you can record the MIDI Clock data. > > > NO > > >> But Ableton Live can >> be synced to an incoming MIDI Clock stream. Live doesn't sync very >> accurately though, because of the tempo smoothing. >> > > I can do this in a live situation, just that i can't keep all the tempo > changes for later post-production. let's say i could accomodate other tempo > tracks in the studio. for instance, a reason groove, or whatever ... > > >> >> When I record with loopers and want good syncing to software DAW's I >> usually loop first - with no sync, so the looper will spin freely. I >> record the audio from that looping session and then apply the DAW's >> time grid to what I played with the looper. > > > That's the only solution I think. Also, as appears in the plex manual, it's > a good idea to save, anyway, the signal from MIDI out from the plex, so you > can identify the record-stop, multiply-record (unquant. multy), > unquant-inserts... et,etc, .. on a midi track. > > > >> There is no machine that >> can do tempo sync as good as human hearing, simply because machines >> don't understand music. > > > ;-) ... this is my per lesson of the day ! > > >> The machine has to wait until the tempo drifts >> and then start making corrections - but for the listening humans the >> musical feel has already gone havoc by then ;-) >> > > I've been testing some slow tempos with the Garritan Jazz plugin and the > drums are really smooth ... Live drifts a bit, and sometimes lasts a while > 'til he founds a good (bad) tempo ... but no matter ... quite often works, > others no ... > > thanks per, > raul. > > > >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> www.stockholm-athens.com >> >> > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_11277_26919807.1217959971704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
would this be possible with mobius?
could i record the clock track (if it's sent) from mobius (master) for later mixing tasks making it the master tempo  in Live or other DAW?

thanks,
raul. 

2008/8/5 Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>


2008/8/5 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> does anybody come around to capture some kind of tempo map,
> from MIDI out of the plexi when used as master? ...

The Echoplex doesn't create tempo maps. It stays on the same tempo
until you change it, then it simply starts sending out the new tempo
right away (MIDI Clock, pulse or Brother Sync).


Yes. Which is a pitty since it stops the slave daw when creating a new loop on the fly. Must be a way of doing the plex do not send the Stopsong message, when I erase the first loop? Maybe I could ignore it with a filter in the daw ... Bidule
 


I recorded the beat pulse output on a computer DAW track when running
the Echoplex as master (Sync=Out). Then I played the computer and
synced the Echoplex to the audio pulse. It worked fine.

how? did you kept the clock changes? since it's this what i'm behind... 
 

> does somebody do this in ableton live?

I'm not sure you can record the MIDI Clock data.

NO
 
But Ableton Live can
be synced to an incoming MIDI Clock stream. Live doesn't sync very
accurately though, because of the tempo smoothing.

I can do this in a live situation, just that i can't keep all the tempo changes for later post-production. let's say i could accomodate other tempo tracks in the studio. for instance, a reason groove, or whatever ... 
 

When I record with loopers and want good syncing to software DAW's I
usually loop first - with no sync, so the looper will spin freely. I
record the audio from that looping session and then apply the DAW's
time grid to what I played with the looper.

That's the only solution I think. Also, as appears in the plex manual, it's a good idea to save, anyway, the signal from MIDI out from the plex, so you can identify the record-stop, multiply-record (unquant. multy), unquant-inserts... et,etc, .. on a midi track.

 
There is no machine that
can do tempo sync as good as human hearing, simply because machines
don't understand music.

;-)  ... this is my per lesson of the day !
 
The machine has to wait until the tempo drifts
and then start making corrections - but for the listening humans the
musical feel has already gone havoc by then ;-)

I've been testing some slow tempos with the Garritan Jazz plugin and the drums are really smooth ... Live drifts a bit, and sometimes lasts a while 'til he founds a good (bad) tempo ... but no matter ...  quite often works, others no ... 

thanks per,
raul.



--

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
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Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



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Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_11277_26919807.1217959971704-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 18:16:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBEDD3C0D0; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=buSblisOfkaezaTPNUzVpUmrBWyP8wAemejf4ZPCPMA=; b=IBGxQDSTiYiIrY3g4M6u22uwA7itKrrm2n+umRhQG6pQ+J5iyNoPaGcYbz7NsLCqjV 6d7f5o96Sphk4EKRj1UvuA71ES9aiSvKniiiA/JIoa6ArMjhjVq4HcMiVQgWWxjWkHvK Em28Md4v+6eT+zDUWCiwwpc26y+YIJ7DnmnuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=LE7MnPWX/DQyfTu/zmYC/V3diAnAr93/gcL8Ynh7ZcxR1Bwe8GTsjA+ymrMAdEnTVo s0gCnScS+mGyXDQTueJY1jW1Ys+Qnzsd95H5wiTWj27YRBI2+dLrU/hZqKV6XHZELFSY xnOadBgIQeFnPhumpXX72HtuTlBBhn/Y9Kgvg= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:16:41 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: loop V MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11334_12359475.1217960201767" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:16:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11334_12359475.1217960201767 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline can anybody update us about the loop V software version? thanks, raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_11334_12359475.1217960201767 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
can anybody update us about the loop V software version?

thanks,
raul. 

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Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_11334_12359475.1217960201767-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 18:18:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B14373C0D9; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OxWMIMT7YG2zy/l6whDVpgNshZIyzyj+Rnabcg5xl58=; b=e4hukvSA34DSr/pN+IFgXAqLX62fUrDUd6lGLnYbLejsVDKwZFXZAHEMIZZ0Vx59zJ n0V398ssZyp/pmlTOuFOpvY0092lWA4bgKLpY+7nRSHLcrtmsyAvX9Rb5S5G771ZjtJF rNQCSuoK4e3cUJnZgVkobCFjAxy3GNbT8KoiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=bOxDdDLkWzwkUoHJ/tBDMHN/h9/PJS7GXv2/DfYmYa2wiBijcAmfKBpXufysbMXTDo MEEESU7FKIvWtQvjFmJ1KouVlP8Vy0aL8Q8ZCkDj2mkVxPP26af8ZVoHC4SfpQK+Xp5o 5Ubwbe7g8LIlc8DX2rxpWC/k1DrWw2t+5heCw= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:18:26 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <907833.71801.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9BCAAB5B-8E44-49DD-BFFF-9EB8FC124B5D@atarde.com.br> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:18:28 +0000 (UTC) The reason I use a hex pickup in the neck position rather than a Roland GK-2-type bridge pickup is that I'm driving an octave divider pedal which bounces octaves less frequently when the signal is coming from the neck position. I always have the low E and A strings connected, and the top 4 strings are always connected. So the only crosstalk that can cause me problems is the D string bleeding heavily into the A string when I am in split more (octave divider on the lower 2 strings and guitar sound on the top 4). I agree with Matthias that a bridge-mounted hex pickup is better for hexaphonic distortion and synth tracking. But a neck-position one is better for an octave divider effect. On 8/5/08, Raul Bonell wrote: > how this would improve triggering for my oberheim matrix-100. was kim who > used to like the matrix?... ;-) > raul. > > 2008/8/5 Matthias Grob > >> cross talk must be big, so it would not serve for polyphonic distortion or >> attack dependent processing >> thats why the previous polypickups like Roland GK2 is small and near the >> bridge - where it has little bass >> thats why the good solution is piezo >> Rolfspuler.com is going to sell his separately, eventually... >> >> Matthias >> >> >> On 5 Aug 2008, at 11:40, Diatonis wrote: >> >> Thank you for finding this. >>> >>> I think it would also be great for spatialization in 5.1 or 3D. The >>> stereo mp3 did sound like each string was somewhat isolated. >>> >>> Stuart >>> Diatonis >>> http://www.diatonis.com/ >>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I just noticed this guy that makes six output guitar >>>> pick-ups. Seems >>>> like a way more expensive option than buying a FireWire >>>> guitar or the >>>> Moog Guitar: >>>> >>>> http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-guitars.html >>>> >>>> You should be able to use six loopers, one for each string. >>>> That would >>>> make the guitar + looper a new instrument that no one have >>>> yet played. >>>> Much less pedal tapping needed, as this looping instrument >>>> would be >>>> more like a piano, i.e. more options instantly available >>>> for direct >>>> playing. By playing the same note on a different string you >>>> overdub it >>>> into the next looper etc. He, he... playing that monster >>>> looper would >>>> demand more brain exercise than finger exercise ;-) >>>> >>>> Exciting stuff! I once used a MIDI guitar for looping >>>> samples set up >>>> as one sample per MIDI Channel and string, but with this >>>> pick-up you >>>> should be able to do it with real audio (which IMHO is cool >>>> with >>>> guitars). >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>> >>>> Per Boysen >>>> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >>>> www.looproom.com (international) >>>> www.myspace.com/perboysen >>>> www.stockholm-athens.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 18:40:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 698603C0B2; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=3EWGdYOwgEELKqZGSaBk1JN2jmf0FFi1/jYFQuCcjjY=; b=cGV90SXxqKjF2NIXFqOcxA2u1MKm519WIafU9DARrzF7VP9tsUbAzqyamhC3inCTCu CmMdirZpnclCYG3VIbi1l+Rjdif4Cb1wQMeWob8sE9uZSv8Yl/h21Qcz8Cnyj462lHde eSF7XNv+PqZD3QJL4sjEZJkk92e2OtwVO24no= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=fQXIjEqgPWF9DbwZyTC5FGEVrnbJYXh/Sw3e3ln8QyhGptspifGTRaEyPWNTkGMed7 rsR188yuzmF4gAciHuKeLu7s0ZDYzBoZDsQDAmGZeSbHZ5W7uJqEFSYz4IElA3SCsmET ZOaybjm5+2cRNPqGt1u1IcmW8Cwf6jpoNQr0I= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:40:11 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop V In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: <45ZOkB.A.r7H.M6JmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:40:12 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > can anybody update us about the loop V software version? Even better! You can update yourself directly from the source: http://www.aurisis.com/ -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From dkelsey@vrstrt.com Tue Aug 5 19:01:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail.vrstrt.com (mail.vrstrt.com [64.187.124.204]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800063C0B9 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:01:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.vrstrt.com Postfix Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:01:15 -0400 From: "Daniel Kelsey" Subject: KBLB up today, act quickly To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline KBLB up 10% on moderately high trading volume. 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To remove yourself from this list, click here http://vrstrt.com/u/mZ9bA_gMfn3WDnXrNoRFUg.html or write to us at: 25399 The Old Road, Unit 13507 Stevenson Ranch, CA 91381 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 19:24:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 512363C0C2; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 73475 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:24:13 UTC Message-ID: <51925.69.59.203.72.1217890777.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <35928309-4F9D-4872-A572-1E42B41A6308@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: MacBook From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Check out the Edirol FA66, it's 2-in/2-out (analog) firewire interface, lists for about $300. A client of mine was putting together a home studio setup, and I suggested the MOTU Ultralite, but his Sweetwater rep talked him into the Edirol. So far, it works great, low latency, decent sounding preamps, and no driver issues on either mac or PC. It's also very small, and seems very solidly built. I'm considering getting one for my laptop. > Thanks, everyone for the suggestions. I only need 2 inputs and 2 outputs. > I > wish MOTU made a smaller, less expensive card. But the Echo looks like a > good candidate, I'll try it. > > I like Echo. I've been using an Echo Layla (early 20-bit version) on my > home > computer for almost 9 years now! It still works very well. If I could plug > its dedicated PCI card into a laptop somehow, I would! > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 19:51:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51B7B3C0C6; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=7uI9votpmOGwfKoPTmI2okP8dkixyNlMpjJaKba9pq8=; b=X5mIVTijpZU57qauXPcP7kxzHKl4Io92aVv52wsMfY0uWNTPuOjZ57g+yBzSvwUQK0 TBcVxj9tC2qpIvH4TNvqLB9B+zFCvCcPeVeY/x3P4gVdx6aO9uBzQTJNxiU77f1mgjk1 hErEM4bMxV/QchSe+NX+V6dfCpezgHoRwU2Eg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=DsOnF/+TZWg7pXwBQbWsLgnYjb1YyqW4jyyWcgp1daee6bDLI6Af3/vNaT7X3c6WNx dSGzjTxQOzICZPjvn2XgAwzW9bxtXGBqvwZAeBovQU1UBJrnmDNvn5xFivx0ONG/owLd dAYNStgCmr+FS5lUW2KdHr1dbSvtNJuTUgN5o= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808051251t10049a7vc7a005ba91e82fe5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:51:32 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Quickee Windows Laptop Looping advice sought from the Oldbies on this list In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808050650q4ab2270cie7594773353b19fe@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7327_29725303.1217965892872" References: <200808051252.m75CqQor011941@post.webmailer.de> <66f9cc1e0808050650q4ab2270cie7594773353b19fe@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e0eff46ffad5d0c9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:51:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7327_29725303.1217965892872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Im sure Per is right here, on the other hand, Hilde has had an Acer lappy for 4 years, and is still going strong, if you discount all the keys having being picked off by a certain 2 year old, and paint covered and broken bits where its been dropped. But the hard disk and OS are all working perfectly. Hilde mind you is a geek and fiddles constantly with the registry and deletes unwanted crap. I cant comment on how manly a machine one would need for Bidule and co... but with an external sound card, I dont think its much of an issue. I saw an Acer laptop for 2500 kr here today, that about 480 dollars.. and at that price, you dont need it to last forever (if somewhat against my enviro side...) m On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:52 PM, wrote: > > > > The only question mark that's left - I don't know about Acer's > reputation...anyone? > > > > Rainer > > > Colleges have warned me that they crap out quickly. But that's not > only Acer, many pc manufacturer's low line cost models suffer from > this; ie a quality to be generally understood. One reason is that the > low cost models may be used to test new hardware parts (sort of guinea > pig model) to see if these parts can be trusted for using in more > expensive models. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_7327_29725303.1217965892872 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Im sure Per is right here, on the other hand, Hilde has had an Acer lappy for 4 years, and is still going strong, if you discount all the keys having being picked off by a certain 2 year old, and paint covered and broken bits where its been dropped. But the hard disk and OS are all working perfectly. Hilde mind you is a geek and fiddles constantly with the registry and deletes unwanted crap.
I cant comment on how manly a machine one would need for Bidule and co... but with an external sound card, I dont think its much of an issue. I saw an Acer laptop for 2500 kr here today, that about 480 dollars.. and at that price, you dont need it to last forever (if somewhat against my enviro side...)

m


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:52 PM,  <rs@moinlabs.de> wrote:
>
> The only question mark that's left - I don't know about Acer's reputation...anyone?
>
>               Rainer


Colleges have warned me that they crap out quickly. But that's not
only Acer, many pc manufacturer's low line cost models suffer from
this; ie a quality to be generally understood. One reason is that the
low cost models may be used to test new hardware parts (sort of guinea
pig model) to see if these parts can be trusted for using in more
expensive models.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_7327_29725303.1217965892872-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 20:02:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 934C93C0D4; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=uUfxn0546N0IoB0FTzwbwK5zXmO8Je+TAFe65Vjn0Gk=; b=iOgmeUJM+zQcHCQCAdxNqsNuCpffLd0LAAGYHg1W3YzbLb985AG29e+Rp0xqRJoWYL 2FRK93cOSqyqzuys5JmcIO234G159j+xTgOORIipiEjHizY0n2SXdftY18PlGhuRx+LK IHsxp5n24mGK8yZ7p1P2T0WrOl+lUneK5t/9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=YCh2d26Nl1tZ/HgYkbbKvE5WMQMcgTCn3FYEIH1VqqQ+FP1BNtkZsVRHgcK7lk8j+K 32wqXuGNDCLc5DWRF/Yez0LO8dKlEZevjPFdSztFEW/YDjMftqmLjypSVUY3cQ+sXTpj My71iw8LwRCYziAQeE9xRqfZAKZSZUgL1X4hU= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:02:27 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop V In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7386_6988323.1217966547941" References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 89a791c5594db759 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:02:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7386_6988323.1217966547941 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline theres a Loop V??? ------=_Part_7386_6988323.1217966547941 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
theres a Loop V???

------=_Part_7386_6988323.1217966547941-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 20:10:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFEDB3C0CE; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=B+Z+BIimvHI1v5zFv65vXgNnI6W4pdbohp0dTo2lNIM=; b=mGjhRNTuM07dXoIoIveDcdQ1KNXcgPIjz7A2UlVoihnXyzoAHTt7k05CUJanOfVTbW 731eqlsiS3D/FgxuycVytL1p9xHfjFnfJZhrlB118yif2sU2O6zcCvQW8AEgvXm5lgXR d2fn0GndQqI1kSGkWpeag0BxZZzno3u7pZZdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=tOrdLnADXP1aXy560mkpK3mg9J6Cb1Hf9JgIRC73q2xLlb7PIXtWD+/amuAdzXaBMY 9jae3pkKIHr1ieivrqyVF0obqqk7sHlxj41v7hBwlPKhpV0obsujtCyCQTicjNHffszP jMl9Her4/W7Bi86svPg4H2K8WQx904O0iK134= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808051310n7f92c80fr50f7dcc4387df924@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:10:07 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Quickee Windows Laptop Looping advice sought from the Oldbies on this list In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808051251t10049a7vc7a005ba91e82fe5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200808051252.m75CqQor011941@post.webmailer.de> <66f9cc1e0808050650q4ab2270cie7594773353b19fe@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051251t10049a7vc7a005ba91e82fe5@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:10:08 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:51 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I saw an > Acer laptop for 2500 kr here today, that about 480 dollars.. Wow - that's less than the insurance you buy from Apple so they will give you a new one if your MacBook goes belly up! When I had my studio based around Windows machines I used Ghost to clone the entire hard drive and if something fucked up in the software I didn't need to lose time troubleshooting because it was only a matter of 8 minutes (!) to re-format the boot partition and slap back the full Windows XP installation with all audio software. Something like that might work for a lappie of 2008? If Homeland Security snags it you can buy a new one super cheap and drop the Ghost image over it. It wouldn't be an 8 minute affair for me, since at least Cycling74 demands one or two days to authorize my software. Hmm... I think everything else I use can be authorized directly with my personal codes. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 20:13:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9875A3C0DE; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8RRpkOSlgMCXUEOI8szInMokEvqEA7cwZlrGo4VnmCI=; b=t74if+Clk/PGPgfcb4I7FzPXXMvCQbAnaydUbUvUrMqo9/I7WFSP/HGmxaqFAm9M/T Onfvk7DdDZN5LX+ezESnuGfX1iaH3VQzx1+/0Myo1LbAR1oFpO+uwt6MlkcTyPrb96fj vt/JpTVLvSIL/oCFCXlp4embSuEk/7Kh1x+08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=o+QTzUW43cqsOsqqD0mi/c47ixhEfHupaKobwr/HsboVoSR03bFmboXTDuldf9fuMm cUZ7eklTRoIohvfUl+PpwcsmQC6NK1BK+C7Eg/1HIkM9LWpUVPw5+AFP3LG4FzSsho5J 1YzhZj4S4h5JRyGWlw7Mdrrf5/SPFJn65P8ws= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:13:31 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop V In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_MKJeD.A.i0C.sRLmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:13:32 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM, mark francombe wrote: > theres a Loop V??? Sorry, my bad. There should be a vertical line before that upside down A without the short horizontal line.... if you see what I mean... I use to type it Loop4 to prevent misunderstandings. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 20:19:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CC9C3C0DE; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=aEuhKZdyS/VbzQ12WPKM+KrQcSVFpPWK7DqfxUisTTI=; b=wo7goyVHeW8FlSrK3uCxGOAx18QT8VRLuSsRwcAx6VWv8LLSkvB+WGT7epOALoJc+3 Pj87T8lnJtFSqgWNC6TGpm7HIjoIJwbA4xsTIKw7pnEs29fgisfQe6OKHQ7GQiDhn/xv 2nfJAAs70yDbn9CuT3bXhmHoG3MsYGtcb7E8k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=hhy0IBMaa77Vs0ExPBKsakwF3wQGggOq8c7uJVj6l7vZfOUVpOxOQHNFpEYZNEvNAJ JK92lnFsrpXeKVUu3F9RUIHhE9IF6iqub/wwqXxNeCMU9FJnSM1siIqQFQVJzk8Hb7O+ 1h6ncKls7D83Yuik1H9Kq9Q6Ku1yfoUcdLl/8= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:19:08 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7609_21367182.1217967548441" References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7f605715e10591cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:19:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7609_21367182.1217967548441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Interesting thread.. I must say that all these experimental Musique Concret Scores, and the Cage Scores and the Stockhausen scores that I have seen all seem a little silly to me, And when you hear the result, the score hardly reflects the piece. I= n these cases I think it was more of an intellectual exercise. A digression: On a related note (ha ha ) however, I doe dream one day to have the time to re-learn to read regular music. I could sight read as a child, during those imposed hellish hours of piano lessons, but now regret that I have lost tha= t ability. I ride the bus everyday to work, with 2 teenage students who get off at the Music Conservatory. (Not spoddy Cassic swots these two, one dreaded guy and his emo girlfriend) However they sit there, reading music scores (Today was Dvor=E1k) occasionally nudging one another and pointing to particular sections, the other one will then lean over, read a little then smile or laugh or make some comment such as "cool", or amazingly... "Wow, that sound= s great!". If they are indeed hearing the music in their heads, for the first time, as one can see a picture in your head as you read a story, then I must say tha= t this makes me so very jealous and does away with the nessecity to have an iPod, or ones hearing for that matter! m www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_7609_21367182.1217967548441 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Interesting thread..
I must say that all these experime= ntal Musique Concret Scores, and the Cage Scores and the Stockhausen scores that I have seen all seem a little silly to me, And when you hear the result, the score hardly reflects the piece. In these cases I think it was more of an intellectual exercise.

A digression:
On a related note (ha ha ) however, I doe dream one day to have the time to re-learn to read regular music. I could sight read as a child, during those imposed hellish hours of piano lessons, but now regret that I have lost that ability.

I ride the bus everyday to work, with 2 teenage students who get off at the Music Conservatory. (Not spoddy Cassic swots these two, one dreaded guy and his emo girlfriend) However they sit there, reading music scores (Today was Dvor=E1k) occasionally nudging one another and pointing to particular sections, the other one will then lean over, read a little then smile or laugh or make some comment such as "cool&q= uot;, or amazingly... "Wow, that sounds great!".
If they are indeed hearing the music in their heads, for the first time, as one can see a picture in your head as you read a story, then I must say that this makes me so very jealous and does away with the nessecity to have an iPod, or ones hearing for that matter!

m

ww= w.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_7609_21367182.1217967548441-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 20:19:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD82D3C0F7; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=YFPT7rxIJTS9tAb91b9f4gsdGUUvofpd9XZVbZGk2Wc=; b=i5XHkC3ECH18rfb/QoT1S0Kn3k2mDNN/dEim93+CqwSGJCKvceE4aNMvR5V0NyyY3q Mdnn8e3eBLE+Wx4MMrGKW34kAntf9WDKfRS+CYhGfCKc1N2RotuF89SYgLoAXKUYUmiB rAa49jGABq8MtkaRzht/oYFJt7/kMA7USxroE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=utCcHv9t70VVNoq95tPYN5TtTulOoO5ALvJHEhWIi2KF+tPEwuxSAzSdKMahru2m5I c6N6TVeXafuzT2VK6dfL4kRxLOO4MN/mk47w5stFzCCnxFNVNqQ5aQo2anS7MPty2jA+ yV1MXkRgseBk3uFJ5fbVFBg+eWe0+w+pdbfgE= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:19:20 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40158_1229627.1217967560249" References: <907833.71801.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9BCAAB5B-8E44-49DD-BFFF-9EB8FC124B5D@atarde.com.br> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:19:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_40158_1229627.1217967560249 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Oh yeah...another disadvantage of a hex pickup at the neck position is that the volume of a string drops noticeably when you bend it away from the normal position. Again, I don't mind this because I'm playing jazz and don't bend much. It's much more important to me for the octave divider not to bounce. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_40158_1229627.1217967560249 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Oh yeah...another disadvantage of a hex pickup at the neck position is that the volume of a string drops noticeably when you bend it away from the normal position. Again, I don't mind this because I'm playing jazz and don't bend much. It's much more important to me for the octave divider not to bounce.

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Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net
------=_Part_40158_1229627.1217967560249-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 20:44:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 143EA3C0CE; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8i89Yos6tLoXLIC7BicGbXz5fwYW1kfyWO1tH2ES2io=; b=pvebnjjLUxRVBLMCgZJV83s+MZyUz4qSfuKxNxU9ET9ZHk4Imgf/mZ21ANz7HGJvJ+ WpAzgTrrvUCpXDIHxhjDvOyxjQL/6cC4kqRHIt0aJ7b3G8rFPhkQm7NKev5XLmLiKhA7 9V+x0jn/uXo7+A5pZdeDURTu6EndGyxXscLAI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=iy77D48dL5Hg7EMFHkySVQEBINkJoalTZ2b5J3g6ZifPzaXWfde9Ay3cv/cGk2s57h Winh5aSTtpdxyFNihJG2gsxu2Ag+VlegyFVYXNYm2NUrH3l0gksDW+8Jrdlr6w+YafSY nRpNORQLvQyaMC7yyqh24zV9C1GWMK3W26pu8= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808051344m1707ea87l4fba6cad1a1d2fd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:44:01 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <907833.71801.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9BCAAB5B-8E44-49DD-BFFF-9EB8FC124B5D@atarde.com.br> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:44:03 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > Oh yeah...another disadvantage of a hex pickup at the neck position is that > the volume of a string drops noticeably when you bend it away from the > normal position. Again, I don't mind this because I'm playing jazz and don't > bend much. It's much more important to me for the octave divider not to > bounce. Yes, that's an interesting issue! Wouldn't be much of a problem for me I guess, since my dream for a multi output guitar would be to run each string into its own looper. I bend pretty far on the strat so some notes would gliss up and disappear form the loop only to appear magically in a different loop somewhere else, later in the music. Not worse overhearing leakage than I have with stage monitors when looping flute. Actually I think audio leakage in looping can sound interesting. Not if it happens all the time though - but if used intentionally. I mean, if not bending you won't have it. As with a mic on stage - if not opening your mute pedal you won't have the leakage either. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 21:53:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4561E3C0A7; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4898CBBF.6070203@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:53:03 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Tour wrap-up References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8892C6B7@barq.sailpoint.com> <02d301c8f686$24271210$5901a8c0@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <02d301c8f686$24271210$5901a8c0@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:53:04 +0000 (UTC) The Boston show on Saturday with Dennis, Jim, & Tim was the 33rd and final date of my tour, and I'm now flying back home to southern Mexico. I thought I'd share a bit about the experience, since so many people here helped me out, from venue suggestions to booking shows to playing with me and hanging out at my gigs. Cara, Dennis, Michael, Jim, Tim, Ted, Matt, great to hook up in one way or another with all of you! All in all, I'm calling it a success, in spite of four cancellations and a weird venue war in Oxnard, CA. My worst experience is probably a tossup between a dismal show at a Budweiser n' wings pub in Delaware (a complete mismatch...nuff said), and the flat tire I got in Montreal. The flat happened, naturally, on the one night of my entire one-month East Coast leg when I wasn't staying with friends and had nobody to ask for help (note, too, it was the one Francophone city of the tour...not to mention a different country). I had neglected to inform Alamo that I planned to take my tiny Toyota across the border, so I couldn't ask for roadside assistance to switch my car. Hence, I put on the low-pressure donut tire in downtown Montreal at midnight after the gig (a very fun looping show also featuring a fellow playing processed viola di gamba), and the next morning drove four white-knuckled hours at 45 mph to my brother's place in Vermont, constantly harassed by gun-racked pickups whizzing by at 80. At the outset of booking for this tour, I had inadvertently helped to launch a very large-scale discussion here about playing for money - or not. Now having a bit more of an informed opinion about income on a no-profile tour, I can share that, perhaps shockingly, it proved possible to cover most of my expenses with what I made, even though I booked my shows without the money being a factor in accepting a show. The most lucrative situation is, without question, playing for tips. I did a fair amount of coffeehouses where I was somewhat background entertainment, and often felt ignored, but with the proper placement of a tip jar (with a friendly and very visible sign, just to the right of the exit door, is the way to do it) many people feel moved to donate two or three or more dollars on the way out. Playing for a couple of hours, in a reasonably active joint, usually would yield enough for a full tank of gas at 2008 prices. Since I had planned the tour around staying with people that I knew, I'd break even or come out ahead for the day in these situations. Charging a cover at the door generally didn't end up yielding so much. Of course, playing really noisy atonal stuff probably won't generate results as "lucrative" (haha), as playing reasonably melodic music. But one doesn't need to depend on covers - the looping shows were improv, and the composed music gigs were all original, with the occasional exception of two or three instrumental Beatles covers if I had to fill two hours or more. It seems that many people enjoy hearing well-played live music, even if it is completely unfamiliar, and aren't unwilling to throw a little cash in a basket of their own volition for the privilege. And the venues that I played at more often than not made an effort to have people show their appreciation, from simply seeding a standard tip jar with a few dollars, to sending their staff out among the tables during a set to ask for donations. It's key to have CD's to sell. Believe it or not, even in the age of iTunes people do still buy discs, and if your record looks good and is reasonably priced (I usually do $10), as often as not there can be a sale or two at each show, even with the smallest crowd. For the looping shows, perhaps unsurprisingly where the crowds were much smaller, yet more interested in the music, the CD sales would always earn more than the split of the door. The main thing is to avoid spending money on hotels, to find a cheap rental (if you have your own fuel-efficient car already, you'll be well ahead of the game), and of course to try to be playing most nights. A few notes on gear: I came to love my Traveler Escape guitar (thanks to Mech especially for his personal review), I ended up using it for all the looping shows. It looks great, has excellent intonation and a nice tight sound, and is incredibly portable. The Yamaha Stagepas 300 system I bought, based on much discussion here, turned out to be a great investment, exactly what I needed. I used it in rooms up to 20' x 60' or so (and even in the enormous church sanctuary Saturday night) as a main and in many situations as a monitor and it always sounded good, even one night when a co-performer ran her 88-key Roland with a pipe organ patch through it, and with Chinapainting, involving two of us sending all kinds of sounds into it. The reverb is a joke, and the EQ not especially useful, but I was never wishing for more headroom or volume, and the convenience factor is superb. I left both speakers in the States and am flying with the powered mixer in my laptop bag; sweet. thanks again to everyone for their help, hospitality and companionship on and off the road. I'm slowly bringing the tour diaries up to date so if anyone wants the gory details, have a look at my site. I'm also more than willing to answer any more specific questions or share contact info on venues, just drop a line offlist. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 22:58:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C0503C0B8; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=yA5HCV/H61nFwx3+SyOU99nfvcz/kBm5vcHPLdhv6/Q=; b=xgMRkSSrMg5kA5kukFISP3w39Z+3iniAF4V+Qn+9BVUTJ/JpV8Pr2ylpM6ga7D0Px4 LMmJuL06r1tyzCWZlqE0LpDf4Fl8zbgFwnUy1pc3qLGSgZXMc4vu6+wx5Jueh4+i9TXI peuWwheLaDX6iRA17v3Yxb/LIltjEFihCF73A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=t33afmxwNo3yYIUy69oiAtODntQOAj1vzUXOKqzNPkQuGudHI3J+Wyuo26LVAUvu/0 fGwu92ziDffjTAdFfA5h9E227WbzSBgEpKF0EVVZLzicJtu09AjbQqZWSy11IVvg0VDC KQzGYI6GnnKJLV3xkL5fDr4m7BQSnXbbuw+6A= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:58:49 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tour wrap-up In-Reply-To: <4898CBBF.6070203@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48508_14746242.1217977130008" References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8892C6B7@barq.sailpoint.com> <02d301c8f686$24271210$5901a8c0@bobdell> <4898CBBF.6070203@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:58:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_48508_14746242.1217977130008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That's interesting, since most of the flamewars that break out over getting paid start with one side going ballistic about anyone playing for free, i.e. tips. Glad you had a good time. TH On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > > At the outset of booking for this tour, I had inadvertently helped to > launch a very large-scale discussion here about playing for money - or not. > Now having a bit more of an informed opinion about income on a no-profile > tour, I can share that, perhaps shockingly, it proved possible to cover most > of my expenses with what I made, even though I booked my shows without the > money being a factor in accepting a show. > > The most lucrative situation is, without question, playing for tips. I did > a fair amount of coffeehouses where I was somewhat background entertainment, > and often felt ignored, but with the proper placement of a tip jar (with a > friendly and very visible sign, just to the right of the exit door, is the > way to do it) many people feel moved to donate two or three or more dollars > on the way out. Playing for a couple of hours, in a reasonably active joint, > usually would yield enough for a full tank of gas at 2008 prices. Since I > had planned the tour around staying with people that I knew, I'd break even > or come out ahead for the day in these situations. Charging a cover at the > door generally didn't end up yielding so much. > > ------=_Part_48508_14746242.1217977130008 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
That's interesting, since most of the flamewars that break out over getting paid start with one side going ballistic about anyone playing for free, i.e. tips.

Glad you had a good time.

TH

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:


At the outset of booking for this tour, I had inadvertently helped to launch a very large-scale discussion here about playing for money - or not. Now having a bit more of an informed opinion about income on a no-profile tour, I can share that, perhaps shockingly, it proved possible to cover most of my expenses with what I made, even though I booked my shows without the money being a factor in accepting a show.

The most lucrative situation is, without question, playing for tips. I did a fair amount of coffeehouses where I was somewhat background entertainment, and often felt ignored, but with the proper placement of a tip jar (with a friendly and very visible sign, just to the right of the exit door, is the way to do it) many people feel moved to donate two or three or more dollars on the way out. Playing for a couple of hours, in a reasonably active joint, usually would yield enough for a full tank of gas at 2008 prices. Since I had planned the tour around staying with people that I knew, I'd break even or come out ahead for the day in these situations. Charging a cover at the door generally didn't end up yielding so much.


------=_Part_48508_14746242.1217977130008-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 23:13:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 755133C009; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05cf01c8f750$dab1d130$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8892C6B7@barq.sailpoint.com> <02d301c8f686$24271210$5901a8c0@bobdell> <4898CBBF.6070203@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: OT: Tour wrap-up Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:13:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:13:39 +0000 (UTC) > That's interesting, since most of the flamewars that break out over > getting > paid start with one side going ballistic about anyone playing for free, > i.e. > tips. Interesting, yes. It does make me wonder if the willingness to feed a tip jar rather than pay a cover isn't a sad commentary on society. Does that mean that we are more willing to give money to a beggar than to pay somebody to do their job? I don't have a good answer, but I think it will be interesting to see the directions that the world takes with regards to musicians in years to come. It also worries me that music is tied to video games. Anybody else notice that Guitar Hero and Rock Band songs are in heavy rotation these days on the radio? Anyway, Daryl, I'm glad to here that overall your tour was a positive one. Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 23:15:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6FC23C0D7; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VlptIg+lwY1XEBEvEFigODlhibZOiYgrntEoeGtU6dc=; b=rH2P8ilRNHMpaGQp1r4wPvIV7+4KE74GIAnBCesAh80BvXXZeUgz/g8SPBx+x4xd2d djReIzb/2CsTO4nXvSw2tM+SGfek+8zI8Jx125v3pz6ZKVm12CBO/SAL3Y2akxfWgJmD LIuoGrqC7POeTyYCkZhE06xqN1c9hLQPjG7Es= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=rOLcj6Rthlow2Kf2v3BjuJg+6gAJdGrfPkcOpWOBjhVrILI2Dd48z/UZvZkYSR6g60 b3tWVX5LPiUJPESKu0BUmq1rM14HOww3R5vVVTsCE7UwZsvY6xiqRD7uph2ibFh6DRZi ue185GLmqa0yoanyBfSC56BT3HZCIabYlobKQ= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:15:26 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tour wrap-up In-Reply-To: <05cf01c8f750$dab1d130$5901a8c0@bobdell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48595_16181884.1217978126740" References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8892C6B7@barq.sailpoint.com> <02d301c8f686$24271210$5901a8c0@bobdell> <4898CBBF.6070203@mhorse.com> <05cf01c8f750$dab1d130$5901a8c0@bobdell> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:15:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_48595_16181884.1217978126740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A beggar sits there and says "Please give me money". A musician playing for tips says "Do you like what I'm doing? I could use some cash..." On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > > That's interesting, since most of the flamewars that break out over >> getting >> paid start with one side going ballistic about anyone playing for free, >> i.e. >> tips. >> > > Interesting, yes. It does make me wonder if the willingness to feed a tip > jar rather than pay a cover isn't a sad commentary on society. Does that > mean that we are more willing to give money to a beggar than to pay somebody > to do their job? > ------=_Part_48595_16181884.1217978126740 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
A beggar sits there and says "Please give me money".

A musician playing for tips says "Do you like what I'm doing?  I could use some cash..."



On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Bob Amstadt <bobld@amstadt.com> wrote:

That's interesting, since most of the flamewars that break out over getting
paid start with one side going ballistic about anyone playing for free, i.e.
tips.

Interesting, yes.  It does make me wonder if the willingness to feed a tip jar rather than pay a cover isn't a sad commentary on society.  Does that mean that we are more willing to give money to a beggar than to pay somebody to do their job? 

------=_Part_48595_16181884.1217978126740-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 5 23:56:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59BB63C0DD; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50021.69.59.203.72.1217980578.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> <48982278.2040601@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:56:20 +0000 (UTC) No way! At the end of our gigs, I'll often play the Windows shutdown sound through my bass amp (1200 watts of QSC through Trace Elliott speakers). It always elicits a laugh. I do try to remember to mute the laptop channel if I have to reboot during a gig, though. > Oh, there is one thing I would do. Turn that damn Windows introduction > music > off so that it doesn't play when it reboots! :) Wow. At one gig, I had my > laptop plugged into the PA, and turned up loud, and that Windows tune > shook > the house. /K Talk about embarassing. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 01:01:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A37723C0BF; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 01:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VCGZJrR3o6tVqg9R/du7OorBOIC+N6frP+AuP8kXffI=; b=FuabblEfMdUInjDomIqSuA/Rr7ovKIQHrJ60epno+VsEMczc6QWB5ReAA0GFGnJsqe L141KMPaSPfSIp+P+jgDx1mJhOjUqlmk/6kLKkCWXTwyKAiJ/+p9vzFcQB3cZEfD2zZC RIbkHGylfnFf+OtWvWxXvEOKNrhKQZBc9UI6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BHMdgpEcT/seHRkyNa5n4clZ0a2YWyQUhs9t2GJuwYYPXmiHQsg8ONPXPNcIi9rBND Gb+eqs9pYYrvfhip6NsRgwlUd7rmS3fNSdcC/3o6ZFpC77iEw1ZiePnIYAQQChLViaz4 PUyRSyagkbsqA+wtvItCT+OtTHWAHMkyJfOWU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:01:12 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tour wrap-up In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11875_10047399.1217984472087" References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8892C6B7@barq.sailpoint.com> <02d301c8f686$24271210$5901a8c0@bobdell> <4898CBBF.6070203@mhorse.com> <05cf01c8f750$dab1d130$5901a8c0@bobdell> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 01:01:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11875_10047399.1217984472087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline And playing for tips is NOT playing for free (though some nights it sure feels that way!). Dennis On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > A beggar sits there and says "Please give me money". > > A musician playing for tips says "Do you like what I'm doing? I could use > some cash..." > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > >> >> That's interesting, since most of the flamewars that break out over >>> getting >>> paid start with one side going ballistic about anyone playing for free, >>> i.e. >>> tips. >>> >> >> Interesting, yes. It does make me wonder if the willingness to feed a tip >> jar rather than pay a cover isn't a sad commentary on society. Does that >> mean that we are more willing to give money to a beggar than to pay somebody >> to do their job? >> > > ------=_Part_11875_10047399.1217984472087 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
And playing for tips is NOT playing for free (though some nights it sure feels that way!).

Dennis

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com> wrote:
A beggar sits there and says "Please give me money".

A musician playing for tips says "Do you like what I'm doing?  I could use some cash..."




On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Bob Amstadt <bobld@amstadt.com> wrote:

That's interesting, since most of the flamewars that break out over getting
paid start with one side going ballistic about anyone playing for free, i.e.
tips.

Interesting, yes.  It does make me wonder if the willingness to feed a tip jar rather than pay a cover isn't a sad commentary on society.  Does that mean that we are more willing to give money to a beggar than to pay somebody to do their job? 


------=_Part_11875_10047399.1217984472087-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 07:20:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAF023C096; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 54341648/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.144.177 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.144.177 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8BAEPtmEhPTpCx/2dsb2JhbAAIimqiVYMq X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,314,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="54341648" Message-ID: <489950A1.80403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:20:01 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> <48982278.2040601@tiscali.co.uk> <50021.69.59.203.72.1217980578.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <50021.69.59.203.72.1217980578.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Which reminds me. Another good optimisation is to select "No Sounds" for all the Windows system sounds. andy improv@peak.org wrote: > No way! At the end of our gigs, I'll often play the Windows shutdown sound > through my bass amp (1200 watts of QSC through Trace Elliott speakers). It > always elicits a laugh. I do try to remember to mute the laptop channel if > I have to reboot during a gig, though. > >> Oh, there is one thing I would do. Turn that damn Windows introduction >> music >> off so that it doesn't play when it reboots! :) Wow. At one gig, I had my >> laptop plugged into the PA, and turned up loud, and that Windows tune >> shook >> the house. /K Talk about embarassing. >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 08:09:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0C483C09D; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=iCxnUDlcHDS2XFHwEjbC6tyAXciHiuWH2UXnhH1zmko=; b=pJaCee8m4tbR0av6d9pMTi0pjRJVWBRYAaPRJQW+STjKSK0Oln2V9iXar12fp3ReyT +5eprtknCQxmDsbHXIOdzFNiti5GY0fCA81ubjl1m9HUMt8HrpOVb8x71FlW/xTVxqQ5 eH4SYtzjzD0cpEfUOyGTlHK5hhxBZ2de+PIAU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=wk4oI5HKzQ4qoKUt2PgZuSXMyY/MKx+75Ol+EvoXLyAenqy03y9LhZX0q16HpvPPHs pclxZzDiRuT4klHia3ZJwJq0twYiiLtt3GdDYLGBNeifIsHiBnVZ9BOiG2GjpGCmZBQa CXq5UjwxpkbsZ/9Xb3A+CHlmW1/BD1/FkB/jQ= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:09:15 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop V In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19291_27194253.1218010156024" References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:09:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19291_27194253.1218010156024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline no, no, .. loop IV / a.k.a. loop4 inside my old plexi. just comenting on the message rick sent one of these days telling that matthias was working on a software (not for burning EPROMs, as i understood) loop V / a.k.a loop 5 matthias? rick? .. raul. 2008/8/5 Per Boysen > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > theres a Loop V??? > > Sorry, my bad. There should be a vertical line before that upside down > A without the short horizontal line.... if you see what I mean... I > use to type it Loop4 to prevent misunderstandings. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_19291_27194253.1218010156024 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
no, no, .. loop IV / a.k.a. loop4 inside my old plexi.
just comenting on the message rick sent one of 
these days telling that matthias was working on a 
software (not for burning EPROMs, as i understood)
loop V / a.k.a loop 5

matthias? rick? .. 

raul.

2008/8/5 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> theres a Loop V???

Sorry, my bad. There should be a vertical line before that upside down
A without the short horizontal line.... if you see what I mean... I
use to type it Loop4 to prevent misunderstandings.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




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Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_19291_27194253.1218010156024-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 08:20:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53CF73C0AC; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=8SBCqFXhO5TpT4LBnRggkQPDykIl/e17WA8qJmM6Hq4=; b=HVQohi2BBmXvImOCCnNMX9ESxW0TzGfpS1bvG5/goSl1/TsbmwAaXILvU34U/alyiQ w2tYQAorlhJfQ50EmT2TCpIRCar9mLIqJem6+Q+AV1bNv6fPaPocey8EHAICb+gODIvm YPPURGxpMNGut/jR37B+ejLmmrcyJW9LV2RcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=GWHf8QuLFVSs4ITfl+Ygs9JcpJW2n0bhAYIlR2aN4OW8l6r5CniEveWEbz3R9Yt9aG SHgGRR9gqvdV+ds/E2J4L/bmJraD/xEOPlwu3nstBqriybsXRXMy5NIG/z0Xnb3QGRTF 4LakxtacD/CUJxybt0QZ5A/GzEmI3nc2h4l9k= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:20:56 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19334_29137618.1218010856455" References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8z9zs.A.Qn.p7VmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:20:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19334_29137618.1218010856455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > If they are indeed hearing the music in their heads, for the first time, as > one can see a picture in your head as you read a story, then I must say that > this makes me so very jealous and does away with the nessecity to have an > iPod, or ones hearing for that matter! > > m > > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no > .. a bit skeptiKal here... i've seen some of those who were evaluating the scores to loose track of a persistent 7/8 conducting, while telling that they can do this and that, perfect intonation, with some out of tune performances in their CDs! mark .. maybe those youngers were listening to melodies, and found them beauty. i don't think there's so much people with mental capabilities of listening/assimilating some harmony tricks unless they have studied these progressions before, or layering is not too dense. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_19334_29137618.1218010856455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
 

If they are indeed hearing the music in their heads, for the first time, as one can see a picture in your head as you read a story, then I must say that this makes me so very jealous and does away with the nessecity to have an iPod, or ones hearing for that matter!

m

www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no

 
.. a bit skeptiKal here...
i've seen some of those who were evaluating
the scores to loose track of a persistent 7/8 conducting,
while telling that they can do this and that, perfect intonation,
with some out of tune performances in their CDs!

mark .. maybe those youngers were listening to melodies,
and found them beauty.

i don't think there's so much people with mental capabilities
of listening/assimilating some harmony tricks unless they have
studied these progressions before, or layering is not too dense.





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The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_19334_29137618.1218010856455-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 08:25:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FB0D3C0BA; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=AX9aLk9eMcc5wnIQ9vCkxJ6ytXtXopmbON7aM3dAKn8=; b=Fd/bF6dovyrT7LRFpsLtk9EUm2NTk0cfBRjYEOwk//MxKDimxjCdRCa6xNWmhR4F+L v79Sdfe/qf8wKTZzvTrY6I40Io5jm9VYUQbJvmbQ+nkLY0pQhyBiyg+Ft5zGpodRnMyf 6dvImhXc537bLyR/01+1GVX/+D6TAsQJhobrE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=xD8QjLo6YrmSk33m7wHrDPamHZVgj5dcE+PUEoLmJq+ICt4BEVFUPvwY2R2UFjJhep eBPw9wWfQq87u3TCad0ORfZwJVDFLVNuiZXU+leNcLSm1XEhsg4ftEA+mW5utqdgO4Ml E9EjaxMiPBFf3kkgscajDusB1o7ykpl8Oj1zk= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:25:30 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping In-Reply-To: <489950A1.80403@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19349_8044287.1218011130441" References: <913728d60808041635j5eec49efodb69102c66b0ef62@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050221i1fb964a6h2272c3bf70001737@mail.gmail.com> <48982278.2040601@tiscali.co.uk> <50021.69.59.203.72.1217980578.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <489950A1.80403@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:25:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19349_8044287.1218011130441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ... but if i remember correctly,this does not deactivate the startup sound not the outro. you must go and tweak the register directly. it's all in the www.xpmusic.net 2008/8/6 andy butler > Which reminds me. > > Another good optimisation is to > select "No Sounds" for all the Windows system sounds. > > andy > > > > improv@peak.org wrote: > >> No way! At the end of our gigs, I'll often play the Windows shutdown sound >> through my bass amp (1200 watts of QSC through Trace Elliott speakers). It >> always elicits a laugh. I do try to remember to mute the laptop channel if >> I have to reboot during a gig, though. >> >> Oh, there is one thing I would do. Turn that damn Windows introduction >>> music >>> off so that it doesn't play when it reboots! :) Wow. At one gig, I had >>> my >>> laptop plugged into the PA, and turned up loud, and that Windows tune >>> shook >>> the house. /K Talk about embarassing. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_19349_8044287.1218011130441 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
... but if i remember correctly,
this does not deactivate the startup
sound not the outro. you must go 
and tweak the register directly.

it's all in the www.xpmusic.net

2008/8/6 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
Which reminds me.

Another good optimisation is to
select "No Sounds" for all the Windows system sounds.

andy



improv@peak.org wrote:
No way! At the end of our gigs, I'll often play the Windows shutdown sound
through my bass amp (1200 watts of QSC through Trace Elliott speakers). It
always elicits a laugh. I do try to remember to mute the laptop channel if
I have to reboot during a gig, though.

Oh, there is one thing I would do. Turn that damn Windows introduction
music
off so that it doesn't play when it reboots!  :) Wow. At one gig, I had my
laptop plugged into the PA, and turned up loud, and that Windows tune
shook
the house. /K Talk about embarassing.









--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_19349_8044287.1218011130441-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 08:32:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 005753C0BF; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=EHEN7xKOZSkZIBEv9mWLTgRTf1HC2Ze0cG4Co6hcIUs=; b=df+JTrxggOCuA+z03BUdjit8f9qUaloifaY4HpQsC0KU04XUU3X/L8Q9aZtk+oNylM srPNQFSTsiEHG7sI19CEod7JNTiU76MnGV8GWUg7wLGe14c5hOMXZhf7+o71tb+zBtWF keqDs40a3jW9wxuDVg5zkktl4/MmBgqnG/t8Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=cq6yY4aeATgeJfTlPny7sXZeql1CG+EUSoCSGNJsVg9FMc//MLGrXQKktnKX8fozWO 0Tt3TViwWeqbEEwo7vtIqduzcgEuEpG0ZnL46k1evsW2OxRmjQIfbEFplw7bzoyNqrHo XgdcbEfRy8AhY7Kv6vNPVtGa+OHiULMNpNP14= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808060132g3336eebbn69916f48dd8e0936@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:32:28 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop V In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:32:30 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > no, no, .. loop IV / a.k.a. loop4 inside my old plexi. > just comenting on the message rick sent one of > these days telling that matthias was working on a > software (not for burning EPROMs, as i understood) > loop V / a.k.a loop 5 Hi Raul, Rick Walker was talking about a new software looping application for computers, that Matthias Grob mentioned to the list that he is working on. As I understood it, this software looper will be an adaption of Loop 4 to the personal computer platform (rather than the EDP hardware we know it from). -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 08:40:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B89783C0AD; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9XsH/c3SBPie7bfRe5W9utmOrNo5lRzMZ9Hw54dDh8U=; b=YAhQH9mlcekvkctn8AR2+ZGH4Z26VwZAUlEiAVlIcxvL04CwIk/k+N+xGGPodgKBE1 MWTTDheKUU9Kz8pcW0OnSu2NqyHxQqQc91V+OABn4GjZe8MloJaQfFkFnUWtDWhwfEqO s7q5R8wUF2ktsawgufwa1Bc+tAa70SO1oO8gE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZrLVgOz2+4HC7aqQ74cxn+nogGKWG4Y+ZlDwx1vKz85JEaAx+7uqftCJWui2slwFau 7BgiPNsK+CSAMo/Zf8fPHLzqzh9sP5vrPeF2u63C0QIN9vp0r6DZ6Lq6yQmEPng1jZhN kzcoZMfSo3JlTZ4zIE9B3vkcHSFSPY0GQRdCM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:40:42 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop V In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808060132g3336eebbn69916f48dd8e0936@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19429_25829284.1218012043053" References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060132g3336eebbn69916f48dd8e0936@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19429_25829284.1218012043053 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline lost that talk on LD.so then, no addons, just an emulator .. is going to do loopwindowing (which i love) matthias? or leave it, as mobius. just this one would make it worthy :-) good morning per, raul. 2008/8/6 Per Boysen > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > no, no, .. loop IV / a.k.a. loop4 inside my old plexi. > > just comenting on the message rick sent one of > > these days telling that matthias was working on a > > software (not for burning EPROMs, as i understood) > > loop V / a.k.a loop 5 > > > Hi Raul, > > Rick Walker was talking about a new software looping application for > computers, that Matthias Grob mentioned to the list that he is working > on. As I understood it, this software looper will be an adaption of > Loop 4 to the personal computer platform (rather than the EDP hardware > we know it from). > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_19429_25829284.1218012043053 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
lost that talk on LD.
so then, no addons, 
just an emulator ..  

is going to do loopwindowing (which i love) matthias?
or leave it, as mobius.

just this one would make it worthy :-)

good morning per,
raul.



2008/8/6 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> no, no, .. loop IV / a.k.a. loop4 inside my old plexi.
> just comenting on the message rick sent one of
> these days telling that matthias was working on a
> software (not for burning EPROMs, as i understood)
> loop V / a.k.a loop 5


Hi Raul,

Rick Walker was talking about a new software looping application for
computers, that Matthias Grob mentioned to the list that he is working
on. As I understood it, this software looper will be an adaption of
Loop 4 to the personal computer platform (rather than the EDP hardware
we know it from).

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_19429_25829284.1218012043053-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 09:23:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F6A13C0B8; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:23:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=H8ymAJ9yVavCPVOWP+IBnVxnIre7Qy51/oM40DDk+q8=; b=PxMqyboXvFzJ3GevjzgP8VuoMoSQRgkNu9TB7gJ7D1W4dPaN7nrore+KjJnLRxofuz y9DLEPtdSEjEGAQga9U1xNrT70omcWKs4rRN0JHyULdc88vV6A79rD8Sk3EfUrH9wlFJ xnIlB774mXgdWROs+nA0BFFzQlEv5EAqRWFQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=m0DwVSHHcGkuCaLrjOVoksJIsAtvc6jHtcLZGti6GraA7yWD2xIQh5v0GTo/zqJiB3 rrl3DhSdKVVV+/NuLo/Brb9Rz0ZVWVkcQgIOZOvqL52TWKjNy1H7kxDGpseQFKREQ/xF bGkx4j6Gyg1Xz5LaIsMZXb4JQml/O2GcoRU4Q= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808060223v70dd0d5au9066ad2780dab13@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:23:49 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:23:50 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i don't think there's so much people with mental capabilities > of listening/assimilating some harmony tricks unless they have > studied these progressions before, or layering is not too dense. I'd like to agree with Raul on that. Everyone does indeed "hear" music inside when thinking music, but in order to use your audio imagination to "hear" a score from looking at it one a paper you need to possess the intellectual tools to connect the icons on the paper to the sounds within your audio imagination. I have some personal experience with that. Looking into myself and memories from my childhood at the time before I learned about keys, melodies, scales, contrapunct and all that stuff, I'm finding that everything really was there, in my mind, from the beginning - I just didn't know the names for all these musical phenomena, or knew what physycally produced them. I could recognize, remember and think about close atonal clusters, unison melody parts, major- minor- and minor seven chords as well as different application of vibrato in choir singing (typically the gospel touch, the "Disney barbershop" touch and the non-vibrato classical choir sound). I was constantly hearing these things on radio and all around and was thinking about them for years, wondering what it was. This happened at about five years age. About ten years later when I started playing instruments and did a quick check on music theory I picked up the correct names and explanations for all the musical phenomena that had haunted my childhood. Who has not suffered the damnation of hearing a stupid song over and over in your mind? Why would it be much different to induce such an audio memory from reading a score on a paper? I'm convince any one, that cares for it, can learn that very quickly. Our brain seems designed to work pretty well with "audio thinking" along the full spectrum of musical phenomena. Anything we have once heard we may be able to think. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 10:04:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8951F3C08F; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=ePc0IbTCAtJWz1as8nlQ4veV6IqVBUz6v0F8uk41GeI=; b=xtYW0PbIxM7iuzwVKEwzrNDnySQen4kAzN9vrQc38qibQLuQ+XKRKnPKeRKhoMWaZK xI4wLVZQQoaq+1gAJS6LwvzXzeceaY/jq8+GvMB86L4weFlwqzLXg2fPDHWcERhFGfHM 781oGRNxUQN/JEX3k4Tyl9ktWU9+JaF4f+/Fs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=lLufCPDsTqHzaj5KhK7vxV60YgUCbVF1M6sdc6qFxdURyxn82TTPUvQEfH/X6VaBX5 odS0q9A1YoHsyiZVxPWdA6xEl4KHMniJSghEJbVhtFjVog+NaXjmXhInYgKfTC8ngEMW xuimjrPklMw1mxfqvO+7fOj2+CrEJ4vnqeHlA= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808060304ud699594k8a0e2fa7f4036d84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:04:21 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808060223v70dd0d5au9066ad2780dab13@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11706_10662987.1218017061868" References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060223v70dd0d5au9066ad2780dab13@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 21e2b8979dddbdc0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:04:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11706_10662987.1218017061868 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > > i don't think there's so much people with mental capabilities > > of listening/assimilating some harmony tricks unless they have > > studied these progressions before, or layering is not too dense. > > I'd like to agree with Raul on that. Everyone does indeed "hear" music > inside when thinking music, but in order to use your audio imagination > to "hear" a score from looking at it one a paper you need to possess > the intellectual tools to connect the icons on the paper to the sounds > within your audio imagination. > Absolutely... But I was'nt suggesting that what these kids were hearing in their heads was "CORRECT" as in , "What the composer intended it sound like". Even though classical music is often scored and is composed "on paper", just like Electronica or Metal or any other form of music, it is the "Sound" or "Timbre" that REALLY makes the music live, the "Sound" of the performance, as in a classical concert OR the EQ /effects, and real tube amp distortion, in the other genres I mention. I remind you of my analogy to what we see when we read a book... Think about it, when you see "the film of the book" that you have previously read, how many of us have been disappointed as to in "not being how we imagined". No.. Im not saying these kids hear it "like Mozart intended", however they ARE hearing something.. maybe just the melody, or the melody with "some kinda harmonic backing". I dont know the answer to this though... I am asking a genuine question... maybe i will ask these kids one day. Personally I can only "read" music as in EGBDF or FACE.. and dont know what melody it will be untill I press those keys on my piano. (And, due to the "unconventional" tuning on my piano, I can't be sure then... ) m. ------=_Part_11706_10662987.1218017061868 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

> i don't think there's so much people with mental capabilities
> of listening/assimilating some harmony tricks unless they have
> studied these progressions before, or layering is not too dense.

I'd like to agree with Raul on that. Everyone does indeed "hear" music
inside when thinking music, but in order to use your audio imagination
to "hear" a score from looking at it one a paper you need to possess
the intellectual tools to connect the icons on the paper to the sounds
within your audio imagination.

Absolutely... But I was'nt suggesting that what these kids were hearing in their heads was "CORRECT" as in , "What the composer intended it sound like".  Even though classical music is often scored and is composed "on paper",  just like Electronica or Metal or any other form of music, it is the "Sound" or "Timbre" that REALLY makes the music live, the "Sound" of the performance, as in a classical concert OR the EQ /effects, and real tube amp distortion, in the other genres I mention.

I remind you of my analogy to what we see when we read a book... Think about it, when you see "the film of the book" that you have previously read, how many of us have been disappointed as to in "not being how we imagined". No.. Im not saying these kids hear it "like Mozart intended", however they ARE hearing something.. maybe just the melody, or the melody with "some kinda harmonic backing".

I dont know the answer to this though... I am asking a genuine question... maybe i will ask these kids one day. Personally I can only "read" music as in EGBDF or FACE.. and dont know what melody it will be untill I press those keys on my piano. (And, due to the "unconventional" tuning on my piano, I can't be sure then... )

m.



------=_Part_11706_10662987.1218017061868-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 10:51:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3D5A3BECD; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=XugtO53r6qVf9rt/blwlRHstTGf96dkHKlU1MYNF3LQ=; b=Nc+kez3rib4fah23yxUBnU71u81SAtKg/JB9snr6/hXZ77kXULL1ZO3vvxo1JhHIqA 0/MZFhRaOQL/0P/9efO3eIF4BevH9tlRWvPWlWLpAUTYDkvA58mU4CBFjVUlWLn8tMNL Hoj16fToqp+bjAWs7LLDvbai0TJSye7v9rBSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=OqW8wyacPFyd1rHJM1rP7FAUypBkc1x80dM6s77ISSNH/xmGOzEjnd1yIwJhLfuhuA SlwgQ4/6UZIxi96pbPOJU7SxksTdIkS9tOCxaFmon2/FxbTetdnYNT1CLH/MP6eur075 fHRB4+qeqnYAY0/gqP7pUaexahbyRidThDdmk= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:51:12 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808060223v70dd0d5au9066ad2780dab13@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20531_24786843.1218019872775" References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060223v70dd0d5au9066ad2780dab13@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:51:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_20531_24786843.1218019872775 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/6 Per Boysen > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > > i don't think there's so much people with mental capabilities > > of listening/assimilating some harmony tricks unless they have > > studied these progressions before, or layering is not too dense. > > I'd like to agree with Raul on that. Everyone does indeed "hear" music > inside when thinking music, but in order to use your audio imagination > to "hear" a score from looking at it one a paper you need to possess > the intellectual tools to connect the icons on the paper to the sounds > within your audio imagination. > ... yes, that's what i call "musical memory". for instance, we musicians can remember a 25 row of names of pitches, in a few passes, since we can build up a sequence from that and saving the info into the brain as a melody. for a regular person this is a task! .. they need to memorize those 25 symbols as characters! > I have some personal experience with that. Looking into myself and > memories from my childhood at the time before I learned about keys, > melodies, scales, contrapunct and all that stuff, I'm finding that > everything really was there, in my mind, from the beginning - I just > didn't know the names for all these musical phenomena, or knew what > physycally produced them. I could recognize, remember and think about > close atonal clusters, unison melody parts, major- minor- and minor > seven chords as well as different application of vibrato in choir > singing (typically the gospel touch, the "Disney barbershop" touch and > the non-vibrato classical choir sound). I was constantly hearing these > things on radio and all around and was thinking about them for years, > wondering what it was. This happened at about five years age. About > ten years later when I started playing instruments and did a quick > check on music theory I picked up the correct names and explanations > for all the musical phenomena that had haunted my childhood. > ... nice example. > > Who has not suffered the damnation of hearing a stupid song over and > over in your mind? Why would it be much different to induce such an > audio memory from reading a score on a paper? I'm convince any one, > that cares for it, can learn that very quickly. Our brain seems > designed to work pretty well with "audio thinking" along the full > spectrum of musical phenomena. Anything we have once heard we may be > able to think. > in the example of the named pitches i put above, you retain "ALL" the info. in a score, at least the modern harmony pieces and specially those not based on classic harmony it's going to be difficult ... not all things but some ... > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_20531_24786843.1218019872775 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/6 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

> i don't think there's so much people with mental capabilities
> of listening/assimilating some harmony tricks unless they have
> studied these progressions before, or layering is not too dense.

I'd like to agree with Raul on that. Everyone does indeed "hear" music
inside when thinking music, but in order to use your audio imagination
to "hear" a score from looking at it one a paper you need to possess
the intellectual tools to connect the icons on the paper to the sounds
within your audio imagination.

... yes, that's what i call "musical memory". for instance, we musicians can remember a 25 row of names of pitches, in a few passes,  since we can build up a sequence from that  and saving the info into the brain as a melody. for a regular person this is a task! .. they need to memorize those 25 symbols as characters!



I have some personal experience with that. Looking into myself and
memories from my childhood at the time before I learned about keys,
melodies, scales, contrapunct and all that stuff, I'm finding that
everything really was there, in my mind, from the beginning - I just
didn't know the names for all these musical phenomena, or knew what
physycally produced them. I could recognize, remember and think about
close atonal clusters, unison melody parts, major- minor- and minor
seven chords as well as different application of vibrato in choir
singing (typically the gospel touch, the "Disney barbershop" touch and
the non-vibrato classical choir sound). I was constantly hearing these
things on radio and all around and was thinking about them for years,
wondering what it was. This happened at about five years age. About
ten years later when I started playing instruments and did a quick
check on music theory I picked up the correct names and explanations
for all the musical phenomena that had haunted my childhood.

... nice example.

 

Who has not suffered the damnation of hearing a stupid song over and
over in your mind? Why would it be much different to induce such an
audio memory from reading a score on a paper? I'm convince any one,
that cares for it, can learn that very quickly. Our brain seems
designed to work pretty well with "audio thinking" along the full
spectrum of musical phenomena. Anything we have once heard we may be
able to think.

in the example of the named pitches i put above, you
retain "ALL" the info. in a score, at least the modern harmony pieces and specially those not based on classic harmony it's going to be difficult ... not all things but some ... 
 

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Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




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TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_20531_24786843.1218019872775-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 11:00:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E3563C06F; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=vKTnnWKzph7W61ao+g3JLpPPU41OERyVSZTvp0rXLlQ=; b=SPSI1COLiQNjSnleKhcrDUcJ8RgR/X0so8yXv2ogL2XEKSdwlSH5oHl6J6phiy5EFz 2n2ZdWjM0twJrNPmcyiwLvxxRQReU3qa2BHcpFNLs+J2DNicNZSxvq+herMq85P0eKbm XmlTL6uvg9hfkYmbXHjqNekekbP+rkxm+2eOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=pmp+2MlhVQIyKRGqKILFej650nlP+LeLRwJFdaq3omln4YEkY48SeY+FYldN8e9LrO eCjJ9cWiVxXrf2iInrlnFt2kTL+9n0rhGNQvDnpQgyyi8XIHyr/IXqVjRrVOaZH9O7QJ 0TYgrYuW/NodJs+EO84ZR14LVESET0/ddXH0s= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:00:55 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808060304ud699594k8a0e2fa7f4036d84@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20620_6756786.1218020456052" References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060223v70dd0d5au9066ad2780dab13@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808060304ud699594k8a0e2fa7f4036d84@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:00:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_20620_6756786.1218020456052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/6 mark francombe > Even though classical music is often scored and is composed "on paper", > just like Electronica or Metal or any other form of music, it is the "Sound" > or "Timbre" that REALLY makes the music live, the "Sound" of the > performance, as in a classical concert OR the EQ /effects, and real tube amp > distortion, in the other genres I mention. > i'm pretty sure that colleagues i told before are quite against that. also not every metal is scored on paper, at least before the album recording! ;-) after that, lots of publications put out the tabs and scores .. nor do the electronica have a complete description when written it down. have you seen the score for the tape in a contemporary/electronica ensemble? it's representation is quite vague, minimal just as a guide for the other performers in the group ... > > I remind you of my analogy to what we see when we read a book... Think > about it, when you see "the film of the book" that you have previously read, > how many of us have been disappointed as to in "not being how we imagined". > No.. Im not saying these kids hear it "like Mozart intended", however they > ARE hearing something.. maybe just the melody, or the melody with "some > kinda harmonic backing". > yes. i think so. > > I dont know the answer to this though... I am asking a genuine question... > maybe i will ask these kids one day. > they'll know better than us. > Personally I can only "read" music as in EGBDF or FACE.. and dont know what > melody it will be untill I press those keys on my piano. (And, due to the > "unconventional" tuning on my piano, I can't be sure then... ) > ... ah, ;-))))) good! > > m. > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_20620_6756786.1218020456052 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/6 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
 
 Even though classical music is often scored and is composed "on paper",  just like Electronica or Metal or any other form of music, it is the "Sound" or "Timbre" that REALLY makes the music live, the "Sound" of the performance, as in a classical concert OR the EQ /effects, and real tube amp distortion, in the other genres I mention.

i'm pretty sure that colleagues i told before are quite against that. 

also not every metal is scored on paper, at least before the album recording! ;-) after that, lots of publications put out the tabs and scores .. nor do the electronica have a complete description when written it down. have you seen the score for the tape in a contemporary/electronica ensemble? it's representation is quite vague, minimal just as a guide for the other performers in the group ... 

 

I remind you of my analogy to what we see when we read a book... Think about it, when you see "the film of the book" that you have previously read, how many of us have been disappointed as to in "not being how we imagined". No.. Im not saying these kids hear it "like Mozart intended", however they ARE hearing something.. maybe just the melody, or the melody with "some kinda harmonic backing".

yes. i think so. 
 

I dont know the answer to this though... I am asking a genuine question... maybe i will ask these kids one day.

they'll know better than us.
 
Personally I can only "read" music as in EGBDF or FACE.. and dont know what melody it will be untill I press those keys on my piano. (And, due to the "unconventional" tuning on my piano, I can't be sure then... )

... ah, ;-))))) good!
 

m.






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------=_Part_20620_6756786.1218020456052-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 11:12:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 322743C075; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Hy4hdzTX1TelULva1HS+zUG8OSUFRqXKlR7j02HKHxo=; b=ruWTOKZWjJVkHqiaaFnVKY4Jx6sn1j7asN5UOXw1f89Yqhv4Bnm+NcaKzgbdqwBOLx t3sldA3ABzJ4P22JWbipw9tY2TWXpi0JPVih5yxjPjPRESr6uNIgpYho6MVyac6RQpJm 97pT9cbJYNhUBnoypaxie9UCc61Oa/JQoT02k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=MPF91UjnZZnL85nP66UKuGH0+NSa0FSLoNqa+cjBbunUH6Pde1BPMKkeTT0AWAvFkz gJkysKdYNdf0UB6hvWKjPSmsKC0vXkHCslzPPnTXnRMrIU6v3AayPxY5BFeXf+NmNQO8 N2jiE+5Buh4eTqYFIHUIB9rto0BMKnCVydT+o= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808060412l5fb56aa8h2b7e9aebe733fde9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:12:14 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060223v70dd0d5au9066ad2780dab13@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_7dOUD.A.k-D.PcYmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:12:15 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > in the example of the named pitches i put above, you > retain "ALL" the info. in a score, at least the modern harmony pieces and > specially those not based on classic harmony it's going to be difficult ... > not all things but some ... Yes. And, as Marc Francombe said, timbre is not always possible to write down on paper. Although the classical orchestra traditional instrumentation set-up can provide people with "mental tools for sound", but only as long as the music in focus deals with common combinations of instruments and playing techniques. If this is to be regarded as a creative opportunity or a limitation depends on your own musical agenda. I realized that when reading The Contemporary Arranger, by Don Sebasky, and setting up some of the big band sound horn sections in a sequencer loaded with appropriate sounds. Here's a link for that book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0882844857/ref=sib_fs_top?ie=UTF8&p=S00I&checkSum=vsG1C0Kk5e2%2F2bIrZLpNo7WlDTzKACGZfvySeUfTAMw%3D#reader-link Very much of my own musical taste has to do with hearing things I have not encountered before. Imagination of such sound is rare, but it still exists! I once dreamed about a sound that I really loved to play with (in the dream) but I could not for long time understand what it was or how I should create it in the real world. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 12:12:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 780533C02D; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=TTxtI5ovHHTo9E9kEueBPwZGBx9LGxJM6rgKfAKO3sSVFiZNHZh9cT6vwzi2EsQu9cdnvHZaAH6OSGOU7XagRhkr1xyp++Z9oS2X0do4CDGCkvyUlDWhDUM/JaQ4xVCfwz9lrKsDisrM5zQEdokqG6YE0e09gRwFg9agPpWHSdM=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:12:03 +0000 (GMT) From: rune fagereng Reply-To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Subject: was; old rig v.s new rig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <703304.53426.qm@web26207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! Thanks Boysen - Sewell and Hartung for your answers.=20 Hartung - I looked at your videos - their nice - but regarding my questions= - I would have needed to see your interaction with instrument and your con= trollers. The video only shows your fingers. But thanks anyway. best regards Rune Fagereng =20 =0A=0A=0A _________________________________________________________=0A= Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! 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In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808060412l5fb56aa8h2b7e9aebe733fde9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22457_30014513.1218030177652" References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060223v70dd0d5au9066ad2780dab13@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060412l5fb56aa8h2b7e9aebe733fde9@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:42:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_22457_30014513.1218030177652 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/6 Per Boysen Very much of my own musical taste has to do with hearing things I have > not encountered before. Imagination of such sound is rare, but it > still exists! I once dreamed about a sound that I really loved to play > with (in the dream) but I could not for long time understand what it > was or how I should create it in the real world. > beautiful story... didn't you recall it? but we, live loopists as electronic musicians/aficionados or whatever, have developed the interest for timbre, as a real partner in our "free" compositions... not for the academic classical world. of course, excepting those masters like tudor, xenakis, cage, chowning, risset (goes on) ... and their students and centres they created .... who are the real legacy for the music of this century. raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_22457_30014513.1218030177652 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/6 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

Very much of my own musical taste has to do with hearing things I have
not encountered before. Imagination of such sound is rare, but it
still exists! I once dreamed about a sound that I really loved to play
with (in the dream) but I could not for long time understand what it
was or how I should create it in the real world.


beautiful story... didn't you recall it?

but we, live loopists as electronic musicians/aficionados or whatever, have developed the interest for timbre, as a real partner in our "free" compositions... not for the academic classical world. of course, excepting those masters like tudor, xenakis, cage, chowning, risset (goes on) ... and their students and centres they created ....  who are the real legacy for the music of this century. 
 

raul.


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------=_Part_22457_30014513.1218030177652-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 14:20:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B2A63BF62; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Rainer Straschill Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:20:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02AE_01C8F79D.433E1F50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:20:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02AE_01C8F79D.433E1F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for the OT. Rainer - I am trying to send a message to your personal email with the = Goethe Institut letter, etc. It keeps bouncing back. Are you getting = it?=20 Kris ------=_NextPart_000_02AE_01C8F79D.433E1F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry for the OT.
 
Rainer - I am trying to send a message = to your=20 personal email with the Goethe Institut letter, etc. It keeps bouncing=20 back.  Are you getting it?
 
Kris
 
------=_NextPart_000_02AE_01C8F79D.433E1F50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 14:32:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E80893BFDC; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <763EE2D85B5546DA82E01E311B5A01B8@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <703304.53426.qm@web26207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: was; old rig v.s new rig Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:32:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Yes, that is a difficult request to meet. I would have to have someone video me just for that purpose. It would start to look a bit like an instructional video, or a video for gear heads. Kris ----- Original Message ----- Hi ! Thanks Boysen - Sewell and Hartung for your answers. Hartung - I looked at your videos - their nice - but regarding my questions - I would have needed to see your interaction with instrument and your controllers. The video only shows your fingers. But thanks anyway. best regards Rune Fagereng _________________________________________________________ Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 15:46:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6DD63BFF6; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=kYiixUnS6jUX57OAbyUq0k1IcAnDRri3ERhMcdj45Ls5ZP2lB87RWHZNLUHmUNj47F0xUpyBoBJfewPmyiiOIv0azMWKwBPZW7xro2hSW3REUPe84xdu9tvnKafHgYBbv89PPRJTP4febDSznK9Lesxcm+E6Ewb4I2HC3vgMcN0=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:46:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Diatonis Reply-To: diatonis2@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080805181252.B73AE3C0D2@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <66097.45899.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Matthias, It doesn't sound that bad if you listen to the stereo file here: http://www.ubertar.com/creot/stereo2.mp3 which is found this page: http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-guitars.html Good separation from what I can hear. http://www.diatonis.com/ Re: Six output guitar pick-up. Good for Tuesday, August 5, 2008 9:24 AM From: "Matthias Grob" To: "Loop List" cross talk must be big, so it would not serve for polyphonic distortion or attack dependent processing thats why the previous polypickups like Roland GK2 is small and near the bridge - where it has little bass thats why the good solution is piezo Rolfspuler.com is going to sell his separately, eventually... Matthias On 5 Aug 2008, at 11:40, Diatonis wrote: > Thank you for finding this. > > I think it would also be great for spatialization in 5.1 or 3D. The > stereo mp3 did sound like each string was somewhat isolated. > > Stuart > Diatonis > http://www.diatonis.com/ > >> Hi, >> >> I just noticed this guy that makes six output guitar >> pick-ups. Seems >> like a way more expensive option than buying a FireWire >> guitar or the >> Moog Guitar: >> http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2008/08/six-output-pickups-for-stereo-guitars.html >> >> You should be able to use six loopers, one for each string. >> That would >> make the guitar + looper a new instrument that no one have >> yet played. >> Much less pedal tapping needed, as this looping instrument >> would be >> more like a piano, i.e. more options instantly available >> for direct >> playing. By playing the same note on a different string you >> overdub it >> into the next looper etc. He, he... playing that monster >> looper would >> demand more brain exercise than finger exercise ;-) >> >> Exciting stuff! I once used a MIDI guitar for looping >> samples set up >> as one sample per MIDI Channel and string, but with this >> pick-up you >> should be able to do it with real audio (which IMHO is cool >> with >> guitars). >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> www.stockholm-athens.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 17:14:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60A3C3BFE2; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1834 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:14:33 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.3 X-EN-IMPSID: z4jx1Z00A03yUm20000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:43:49 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060223v70dd0d5au9066ad2780dab13@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808060304ud699594k8a0e2fa7f4036d84@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20080806171433.14E343BFB1@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:14:33 +0000 (UTC) mark was not saying that electronica and metal are like classical in that they are scored/composed on paper; they are alike in that the sound/timbre really makes the music live. At 2008.08.06 04:00 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: >2008/8/6 mark francombe ><mark@markfrancombe.com> > > Even though classical music is often scored and is composed "on > paper", just like Electronica or Metal or any other form of music, > it is the "Sound" or "Timbre" that REALLY makes the music live, the > "Sound" of the performance, as in a classical concert OR the EQ > /effects, and real tube amp distortion, in the other genres I mention. > > >i'm pretty sure that colleagues i told before are quite against that. > >also not every metal is scored on paper, at least before the album >recording! ;-) after that, lots of publications put out the tabs and >scores .. nor do the electronica have a complete description when >written it down. have you seen the score for the tape in a >contemporary/electronica ensemble? it's representation is quite >vague, minimal just as a guide for the other performers in the group ... 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 18:35:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EEEB3BFCC; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4899EED4.4000703@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:35:00 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tour wrap-up References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8892C6B7@barq.sailpoint.com> <02d301c8f686$24271210$5901a8c0@bobdell> <4898CBBF.6070203@mhorse.com> <05cf01c8f750$dab1d130$5901a8c0@bobdell> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3eENE.A.UUG.b7emIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Yes...very true. I'd have to say that the vast majority of places where I played for tips put money in the jar to start, and/or made a very direct call to the audience to make a contribution. I didn't consider it playing for free. The advantage of the tip is that it enables people to pay for the "product" they like. A cover charge for an unknown artist is tough because the audience is giving up money without knowing quite what they'll be getting, and that makes it very hard for them to show up. The real trick is getting butts in seats, and playing for tips is an easier way of making that part happen. My point in the end is that once people are listening to music, if you're playing well, you're likely to see some cash. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > And playing for tips is NOT playing for free (though some nights it > sure feels that way!). > > Dennis > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Travis Hartnett > > wrote: > > A beggar sits there and says "Please give me money". > > A musician playing for tips says "Do you like what I'm doing? I > could use some cash..." > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 18:51:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E06A43BFCF; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:51:25 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Tour wrap-up To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1218048685" X-Mailer: Unknown sub 34 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:51:29 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1218048685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would you consider playing on the street "playing for tips"? I recall playing on the street when I was in high school and making anywhere from $200 to $400 a day to split between my buddy and myself for 3 to 4 hours' work. That was a lot of dough for a couple of high school kids who had never made more than $5 an hour doing anything else ..... I haven't played on the street in years, but have this vision of doing so and having my law biz clients stumble across me playing with jaws agape. I intend to do this someday ..... Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 In a message dated 8/6/2008 2:35:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, highhorse@mhorse.com writes: Yes...very true. I'd have to say that the vast majority of places where I played for tips put money in the jar to start, and/or made a very direct call to the audience to make a contribution. I didn't consider it playing for free. The advantage of the tip is that it enables people to pay for the "product" they like. A cover charge for an unknown artist is tough because the audience is giving up money without knowing quite what they'll be getting, and that makes it very hard for them to show up. The real trick is getting butts in seats, and playing for tips is an easier way of making that part happen. My point in the end is that once people are listening to music, if you're playing well, you're likely to see some cash. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > And playing for tips is NOT playing for free (though some nights it > sure feels that way!). > > Dennis > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Travis Hartnett > > wrote: > > A beggar sits there and says "Please give me money". > > A musician playing for tips says "Do you like what I'm doing? I > could use some cash..." > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) -------------------------------1218048685 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Would you consider playing on the street "playing for tips"?  I re= call=20 playing on the street when I was in high school and making anywhere from $20= 0 to=20 $400 a day to split between my buddy and myself for 3 to 4 hours'=20 work.  That was a lot of dough for a couple of high school kids who had= =20 never made more than $5 an hour doing anything else ..... I haven't played o= n=20 the street in years, but have this vision of doing so and having my law biz=20 clients stumble across me playing with jaws agape.  I intend to do this= =20 someday .....
 
Harry=20 Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th=20 Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212) 989-2908=20
 
In a message dated 8/6/2008 2:35:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 highhorse@mhorse.com writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Yes...very true. I'd have to say that the vast majority of places= where=20
I played for tips put money in the jar to start, and/or made a very=20
direct call to the audience to make a contribution. I didn't consider=20= it=20
playing for free.

The advantage of the tip is that it enables=20 people to pay for the
"product" they like. A cover charge for an unkno= wn=20 artist is tough
because the audience is giving up money without knowin= g=20 quite what
they'll be getting, and that makes it very hard for them to= =20 show up. The
real trick is getting butts in seats, and playing for tip= s is=20 an easier
way of making that part happen. My point in the end is that=20= once=20 people
are listening to music, if you're playing well, you're likely t= o=20 see
some cash.

Daryl=20 Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> And=20 playing for tips is NOT playing for free (though some nights it
> s= ure=20 feels that way!).
>
> Dennis
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 20= 08=20 at 7:15 PM, Travis Hartnett
> <travishartnett@gmail.com=20 <mailto:travishartnett@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> =20    A beggar sits there and says "Please give me=20 money".
>
>     A musician playing for tips say= s=20 "Do you like what I'm doing?  I
>     could use=20= some=20 cash..."
>


=

Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and f= its in your budget? Read r= eviews on AOL Autos.
-------------------------------1218048685-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 18:58:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CF593BFC1; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=XSzWvCdM1kNgaLWc4JQA:9 a=PSu_4OfhWxo7aO-KwTUA:7 a=tWMs7wj2DEMaEuu5Tj1JYy27rgsA:4 a=C-lB3HWSK-8A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=BpqUGxorProA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=SQwzcTn9khjPAxr9yVsA:9 a=bNU2VuB-kMvQNXUC4q8A:7 a=Ia9M_f2KKjf6CpnGVVRGlDBV-GkA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Message-Id: From: Chris Sewell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--776254311 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: Re: OT: Tour wrap-up Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:58:34 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: <4DsMJC.A.3DH.dRfmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:58:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--776254311 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got a $200 tip this summer on Block Island for playing a Van Morrison song from an obviously wealthy person who looked suspiciously like Scooter Libby. Made my night. On Aug 6, 2008, at 2:51 PM, HarryEsq@aol.com wrote: > Would you consider playing on the street "playing for tips"? I > recall playing on the street when I was in high school and making > anywhere from $200 to $400 a day to split between my buddy and > myself for 3 to 4 hours' work. That was a lot of dough for a couple > of high school kids who had never made more than $5 an hour doing > anything else ..... I haven't played on the street in years, but > have this vision of doing so and having my law biz clients stumble > across me playing with jaws agape. I intend to do this someday ..... > > Harry Weinberg, Esq. > Law Offices of Harry Weinberg > 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor > New York, N.Y. 10013 > (212) 989-2908 > > In a message dated 8/6/2008 2:35:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, highhorse@mhorse.com > writes: > Yes...very true. I'd have to say that the vast majority of places > where > I played for tips put money in the jar to start, and/or made a very > direct call to the audience to make a contribution. I didn't > consider it > playing for free. > > The advantage of the tip is that it enables people to pay for the > "product" they like. A cover charge for an unknown artist is tough > because the audience is giving up money without knowing quite what > they'll be getting, and that makes it very hard for them to show up. > The > real trick is getting butts in seats, and playing for tips is an > easier > way of making that part happen. My point in the end is that once > people > are listening to music, if you're playing well, you're likely to see > some cash. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > And playing for tips is NOT playing for free (though some nights it > > sure feels that way!). > > > > Dennis > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Travis Hartnett > > > wrote: > > > > A beggar sits there and says "Please give me money". > > > > A musician playing for tips says "Do you like what I'm doing? I > > could use some cash..." > > > > > > > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read > reviews on AOL Autos. --Apple-Mail-1--776254311 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got a $200 tip this summer on = Block Island for playing a Van Morrison song from an obviously wealthy = person who looked suspiciously like Scooter Libby. Made my = night. 


On Aug 6, 2008, at 2:51 = PM, HarryEsq@aol.com = wrote:

Would you consider = playing on the street "playing for tips"?  I recall playing on the = street when I was in high school and making anywhere from $200 to = $400 a day to split between my buddy and myself for 3 to 4 hours' = work.  That was a lot of dough for a couple of high school kids who = had never made more than $5 an hour doing anything else ..... I haven't = played on the street in years, but have this vision of doing so and = having my law biz clients stumble across me playing with jaws = agape.  I intend to do this someday .....
 
=
Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry = Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212) = 989-2908
 
In a message dated 8/6/2008 = 2:35:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, highhorse@mhorse.com = writes:
Yes...very = true. I'd have to say that the vast majority of places where
I = played for tips put money in the jar to start, and/or made a very =
direct call to the audience to make a contribution. I didn't = consider it
playing for free.

The advantage of the tip is = that it enables people to pay for the
"product" they like. A cover = charge for an unknown artist is tough
because the audience is = giving up money without knowing quite what
they'll be getting, and = that makes it very hard for them to show up. The
real trick is = getting butts in seats, and playing for tips is an easier
way of = making that part happen. My point in the end is that once people =
are listening to music, if you're playing well, you're likely to = see
some cash.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapain= tingmusic.com

> And playing for tips is NOT playing for free = (though some nights it
> sure feels that way!).
>
> = Dennis
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Travis Hartnett
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= --Apple-Mail-1--776254311-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 19:04:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28B143BFCB; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=LOEZ/Okw+1lMh7nz+km57/XzT+cUeZQywhMrJQ3tL7g=; b=kdVyGlJQUgpohMR6h15zN2RcelWfrcshBuK6KwxoZyut30g8AfMbkan3aiDpQ/vUK4 Tbtp1X6IoXr7hAyEuLePJEuRQ1E/AnFNiO67BMU5b7wKF++rmiNbJ4Ls9hjFl4MJ2y2M 3mff+Dlwixkz6sy1UvzZP3cbSbyzATrjysn6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=tnmqCtpQqELAqt6QVY1J644Hp6P0wDIF8yxNpemh2kKd6R0D1KBngpKF3AJN59gJnw tdAS7YjvfICM7JPXKaUcPlTBhNKqpKoiepgz5Cqt+SIuj9NTsVNrM2WyrRRjQ/TJsJGS mnAa61g2IqCAijp+8a1OmdWoe6MwLuL4eAfK8= Message-ID: <339c30110808061204g108eb19aybcf58108ecaf8f8b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 04:04:21 +0900 From: "michael noble" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: is there a Bidule-type program that can run on Ubuntu linux? In-Reply-To: <70f68b660808041808l4278f69flce659f6ec2df6072@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5076_28961113.1218049461062" References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> <70f68b660808041808l4278f69flce659f6ec2df6072@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:04:24 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5076_28961113.1218049461062 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Charlie, I've been playing with linux-audio for a long while now and just thought I'd add to what's been stated here. I'd agree wholeheartedly with holotone and say audio under linux has many advantages, with a caveat. It is NOT an out of the box experience, and you have to give yourself a transition period, and be prepared to setup your system. As for Windows software, I personally run three instances of Audiomulch at low-latency (using the wine-asio driver under openSUSE based Jacklab) on a single desktop interconnected with other audio apps via the aforementioned JACK. This includes running windows vsts, but the options are greater when you take native linux vsts and ladspa, dssi and lv2 plugins into account. I can't say that wine-asio is perfect - there are mostly issues with screen redraws causing audio glitches when using flashy GUI based software. This causes no problem for me though, as everything is controlled via tactile controllers so I rarely if ever need to adjust parameters via the screen. There are modular environments that run native in linux of varying complexity, from Alsamodularsynth, to Ingen, to PD as mentioned and more. I'll probably be switching ot one or more of these platforms to phase out use of wine altogether eventually, but its a matter of time. I think software can be quite personal, and only you can decide, after trying things out, if you are comfortable with the environment, and again, this takes a the time and patience to learn. The huge bonus, and the daunting barrier to entry to linux, is that everything is configurable, so if you desire you can tailor build a system from the ground up. That being said, I'd highly recommend giving either Jacklab or PlanetCCRMA a go if you want to explore, and others seem to find UbuntuStudio adequate. There is also Studio64, which has an excellent reputation for stability as well as commercial support avenues. In short, don't discount linux, as the more users that hop on board, the more potential there is for growth as the platform develops over time. regards Michael John Noble -- networking practice for sound environments :: http://nowhere.iamnobody.net ------=_Part_5076_28961113.1218049461062 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Charlie,

I've been playing with linux-audio for a long while now and just thought I'd add to what's been stated here.  I'd agree wholeheartedly with holotone and say audio under linux has many advantages, with a caveat.  It is NOT an out of the box experience, and you have to give yourself a transition period, and be prepared to setup your system.

As for Windows software, I personally run three instances of Audiomulch at low-latency (using the wine-asio driver under openSUSE based Jacklab) on a single desktop interconnected with other audio apps via the aforementioned JACK.  This includes running windows vsts, but the options are greater when you take native linux vsts and ladspa, dssi and lv2 plugins into account.  I can't say that wine-asio is perfect - there are mostly issues with screen redraws causing audio glitches when using flashy GUI based software.  This causes no problem for me though, as everything is controlled via tactile controllers so I rarely if ever need to adjust parameters via the screen.

There are modular environments that run native in linux of varying complexity, from Alsamodularsynth, to Ingen, to PD as mentioned and more.  I'll probably be switching ot one or more of these platforms to phase out use of wine altogether eventually, but its a matter of time.  I think software can be quite personal, and only you can decide, after trying things out, if you are comfortable with the environment, and again, this takes a the time and patience to learn. 

The huge bonus, and the daunting barrier to entry to linux, is that everything is configurable, so if you desire you can tailor build a system from the ground up.  That being said, I'd highly recommend giving either Jacklab or PlanetCCRMA a go if you want to explore, and others seem to find UbuntuStudio adequate.  There is also Studio64, which has an excellent reputation for stability as well as commercial support avenues.

In short, don't discount linux, as the more users that hop on board, the more potential there is for growth as the platform develops over time.

regards

Michael John Noble


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------=_Part_5076_28961113.1218049461062-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 19:13:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13AA73BFBB; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Z+f7LJbqCK7sAEcEVHjch6JbkA1164R3g5t58qGrCfw=; b=q2nCP6ZMfwXj3r4IGu1uMYvlAzv+7HFdbhonWJheJM7EJnFUWTsKO2GFzX+WCCTXGJ Fp4ULwO8xYbzvvgjRZD2hO1mQKTbZVoKLTFegdur2sDJo+SXeQfHy9sRADCWbUeICBvX BAdYhVj7bl/hgucFcxglHNQ2IuFxfip3C/Wx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=KgSgEiwniwzzZXdDKOOKC0CcO20126rBblbsIiFPS3yq5PkEGCLizyrZ63vGxuUQkX KJbBHg06wVbr/Wkbed4MFC6YerR0vtQoPM4VeSZNZAEsnDgqf2l0KSUSIhiFRPVtipaf /QFrH/BJxVew8mYmrgHFE6jdX5RqOPwNz+P80= Message-ID: <913728d60808061213i7eeb6768qd23a7f4725f415cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:13:10 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: is there a Bidule-type program that can run on Ubuntu linux? In-Reply-To: <339c30110808061204g108eb19aybcf58108ecaf8f8b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14095_31492015.1218049990497" References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> <70f68b660808041808l4278f69flce659f6ec2df6072@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110808061204g108eb19aybcf58108ecaf8f8b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:13:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14095_31492015.1218049990497 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I wholeheartedly agree--linux is a good thing--I have been running ubuntu linux (even though the hardcord linux users would consider ubuntu a novice distro) for about 4 years now--I am not new to linux, but I am new to the audio-creation side of it, and i was just looking for a program similar to bidule :) but, yes, I absolutely love linux and its configurability (is that a word) and thats the basis of my investigation for using linux as my music station. Charlie On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:04 PM, michael noble wrote: > Charlie, > > I've been playing with linux-audio for a long while now and just thought > I'd add to what's been stated here. I'd agree wholeheartedly with holotone > and say audio under linux has many advantages, with a caveat. It is NOT an > out of the box experience, and you have to give yourself a transition > period, and be prepared to setup your system. > > As for Windows software, I personally run three instances of Audiomulch at > low-latency (using the wine-asio driver under openSUSE based Jacklab) on a > single desktop interconnected with other audio apps via the aforementioned > JACK. This includes running windows vsts, but the options are greater when > you take native linux vsts and ladspa, dssi and lv2 plugins into account. I > can't say that wine-asio is perfect - there are mostly issues with screen > redraws causing audio glitches when using flashy GUI based software. This > causes no problem for me though, as everything is controlled via tactile > controllers so I rarely if ever need to adjust parameters via the screen. > > There are modular environments that run native in linux of varying > complexity, from Alsamodularsynth, to Ingen, to PD as mentioned and more. > I'll probably be switching ot one or more of these platforms to phase out > use of wine altogether eventually, but its a matter of time. I think > software can be quite personal, and only you can decide, after trying things > out, if you are comfortable with the environment, and again, this takes a > the time and patience to learn. > > The huge bonus, and the daunting barrier to entry to linux, is that > everything is configurable, so if you desire you can tailor build a system > from the ground up. That being said, I'd highly recommend giving either > Jacklab or PlanetCCRMA a go if you want to explore, and others seem to find > UbuntuStudio adequate. There is also Studio64, which has an excellent > reputation for stability as well as commercial support avenues. > > In short, don't discount linux, as the more users that hop on board, the > more potential there is for growth as the platform develops over time. > > regards > > Michael John Noble > > > -- > networking practice for sound environments :: http://nowhere.iamnobody.net > ------=_Part_14095_31492015.1218049990497 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I wholeheartedly agree--linux is a good thing--I have been running ubuntu linux (even though the hardcord linux users would consider ubuntu a novice distro) for about 4 years now--I am not new to linux, but I am new to the audio-creation side of it, and i was just looking for a program similar to bidule :)
but, yes, I absolutely love linux and its configurability (is that a word) and thats the basis of my investigation for using linux as my music station.

Charlie

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:04 PM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:
Charlie,

I've been playing with linux-audio for a long while now and just thought I'd add to what's been stated here.  I'd agree wholeheartedly with holotone and say audio under linux has many advantages, with a caveat.  It is NOT an out of the box experience, and you have to give yourself a transition period, and be prepared to setup your system.

As for Windows software, I personally run three instances of Audiomulch at low-latency (using the wine-asio driver under openSUSE based Jacklab) on a single desktop interconnected with other audio apps via the aforementioned JACK.  This includes running windows vsts, but the options are greater when you take native linux vsts and ladspa, dssi and lv2 plugins into account.  I can't say that wine-asio is perfect - there are mostly issues with screen redraws causing audio glitches when using flashy GUI based software.  This causes no problem for me though, as everything is controlled via tactile controllers so I rarely if ever need to adjust parameters via the screen.

There are modular environments that run native in linux of varying complexity, from Alsamodularsynth, to Ingen, to PD as mentioned and more.  I'll probably be switching ot one or more of these platforms to phase out use of wine altogether eventually, but its a matter of time.  I think software can be quite personal, and only you can decide, after trying things out, if you are comfortable with the environment, and again, this takes a the time and patience to learn. 

The huge bonus, and the daunting barrier to entry to linux, is that everything is configurable, so if you desire you can tailor build a system from the ground up.  That being said, I'd highly recommend giving either Jacklab or PlanetCCRMA a go if you want to explore, and others seem to find UbuntuStudio adequate.  There is also Studio64, which has an excellent reputation for stability as well as commercial support avenues.

In short, don't discount linux, as the more users that hop on board, the more potential there is for growth as the platform develops over time.

regards

Michael John Noble


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True, although in common parlance, "playing for free" means "playing without a guarantee or cover charge".
Me, I have no problem with it.

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
And playing for tips is NOT playing for free (though some nights it sure feels that way!).

Dennis

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Reference ID: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 6 21:40:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0207D3BFC3; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <489A1A52.1020108@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:40:34 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: is there a Bidule-type program that can run on Ubuntu linux? References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Charlie Milkey schrieb: > anyways, I really like Bidule. I would love to use it on a linux > computer and go from there--does anyone know if there is one like it > that can run on Ubuntu Linux? Get Ubuntu Studio, it will come with Pd. As with Max/MSP it is a good tool to create your own looping software, both share the same history... Though Bidule doesn't run natively on Linux, you could give it a try with wine... (I even got a Max runtime going with Linux...) > also, are VST OS-specific? i have a feeling they are, and that might > make things a little more difficult than I expected! As far as I know you can run VST's under Linux. But I don't know the details. All these VST hardware boxes run Linux under the hood... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From sam_obodo12@ymail.com Wed Aug 6 23:13:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 387 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:13:20 UTC Received: from n5d.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n5d.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.89]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D9873BFB8 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 23:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.13.25] by n5.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2008 23:07:59 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.169] by t4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2008 23:07:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp110.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2008 23:07:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 657501.85952.bm@omp110.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 38526 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Aug 2008 23:07:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ymail_nen1; d=ymail.com; h=Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=T+9azR7IIyr3D4uRBETciJRliJT2x3GKMSNnfxnEa0ESXb7HVR1rbWwKtNRgCCt7iVNUsTGAJwezwLwSXdH3n7nWVuUlJI9nqX8ZL5KmOTdFv7wfj8NVipkrkS8XNAQys9QJnLrqTz6h4gwgJR+TRUG55uA9zJ9AXd3D7cDQbSQ=; Received: from [41.219.194.18] by web59616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:07:59 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:07:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Obodo Reply-To: samobodo31@ymail.com Subject: One With Christ To: looparc@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1336399389-1218064079=:37282" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <536064.37282.qm@web59616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --0-1336399389-1218064079=:37282 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a new email address!You can now email me at: sam_obodo12@ymail.com - One With Christ It's my pleasure to share my testimony with you, I am Rev Barrister Sam Obodo , the legal adviser to late Mr and Mrs Zech Joseph a Russian couple that lived in my Country U.K for 25 years before they died in auto crash at Totlenham court airpress way, They are good Christian, They so Dedicated to God but they had no child till they died. Throughout their stayed in the country, they acquired a lot of properties, house properties, etc. As their legal adviser, before their death, they Instructed me to write their WILL. Because they had no child, they dedicated their wealth to God. According to the WILL, the properties have to be sold and the money will be given out to a ministry for the work of God, Orphanages and less privileges ones. As Their legal adviser, all the documents for the Properties were in my care. They gave me the authority to sell the properties and give out the fund to the Ministries for the work of God. In short, I sold all the properties after their death, as they instructed and as matter of fact, after I sold all their properties, I realized more than Ten million, five hundred thousand US Dollars ($10.500,000,00), and what supposed to be the percentage interest of my right legal fee was firstly deducted by me out of the total amount realized from the sold properties, this was base on the initial agreement between me and the owner of the properties before their death. Therefore the total amount left to be invested into God's work as instructed by the owner is Ten million, five hundred thousand US Dollars ($10.500,000,00) only. But Instead of giving the main fund out for the work of God as instructed to me by the owner before their death. I have intention of investing the fund in abroad for personal use. then packaged the fund and deposited it with a security Finance Firm. I did not want the management of the Security finance to know the content of the consignments; therefore I registered the content of the consignments as family treasure. Now, the security company believes that what I deposited with them was family treasure.I had encounter with Christ when Rev. Billy Graham was preaching on television concerning Amanas and Sapphire in Acts 5:1-11. After hearing the word of God, I gave my life to Christ and became a born again Christian. As a born again Christian, I started reading my bible and knowing who is God and becaome a Preacher in a Missionary, one day the Lord opened my eyes to Ezekiel 33: 18 and 19 where the word of God says: "When the righteous truth from his righteousness, and committed iniquity, he shall even die thereby. But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby". From the scripture, I discovered that the only way I could have peace in my life is to do what is lawful and right by Giving out the fund as instructed for the work of God by the owner before her death. I have asked God for forgiveness and I know that God have forgiven me. But I have to do what is lawful and right in the sight of God by giving out the fund to the chosen ministry or charity eg: for the purpose of God's work as instructed by the owner before her death. After my fasting and prayers, I asked God to make his choice and direct me to a honest Christian but after my fervent prayer over it, then you were nominated to me through divine revelation from God, so these are how I received such a divine revelation from the Lord, how I got your contact information, and I then decided to contact you for the fund to be used wisely for things that will glorify the name of God. I have notified the Security Company where I deposited the fund that I am moving the package to abroad and the security company has since been waiting for my authority for the consignment to leave my country and move to abroad. You should also forward to me your telephone and fax number for easy communication and to fax you the documents concern are in my position. Prompt response will be highly appreciated. Yours in Christ Barrister Sam Obodo --0-1336399389-1218064079=:37282 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

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- One With Christ It's my pleasure to share my testimony with you, I am Rev Barrister Sam Obodo , the legal adviser to late Mr and Mrs Zech Joseph a Russian couple that lived in my Country U.K for 25 years before they died in auto crash at Totlenham court airpress way, They are good Christian, They so Dedicated to God but they had no child till they died. Throughout their stayed in the country, they acquired a lot of properties, house properties, etc. As their legal adviser, before their death, they Instructed me to write their WILL. Because they had no child, they dedicated their wealth to God. According to the WILL, the properties have to be sold and the money will be given out to a ministry for the work of God, Orphanages and less privileges ones. As Their legal adviser, all the documents for the Properties were in my care. They gave me the authority to sell the properties and give out the fund to the Ministries for the work of God. In short, I sold all the properties after their death, as they instructed and as matter of fact, after I sold all their properties, I realized more than Ten million, five hundred thousand US Dollars ($10.500,000,00), and what supposed to be the percentage interest of my right legal fee was firstly deducted by me out of the total amount realized from the sold properties, this was base on the initial agreement between me and the owner of the properties before their death. Therefore the total amount left to be invested into God's work as instructed by the owner is Ten million, five hundred thousand US Dollars ($10.500,000,00) only. But Instead of giving the main fund out for the work of God as instructed to me by the owner before their death. I have intention of investing the fund in abroad for personal use. then packaged the fund and deposited it with a security Finance Firm. I did not want the management of the Security finance to know the content of the consignments; therefore I registered the content of the consignments as family treasure. Now, the security company believes that what I deposited with them was family treasure.I had encounter with Christ when Rev. Billy Graham was preaching on television concerning Amanas and Sapphire in Acts 5:1-11. After hearing the word of God, I gave my life to Christ and became a born again Christian. As a born again Christian, I started reading my bible and knowing who is God and becaome a Preacher in a Missionary, one day the Lord opened my eyes to Ezekiel 33: 18 and 19 where the word of God says: "When the righteous truth from his righteousness, and committed iniquity, he shall even die thereby. But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby". From the scripture, I discovered that the only way I could have peace in my life is to do what is lawful and right by Giving out the fund as instructed for the work of God by the owner before her death. I have asked God for forgiveness and I know that God have forgiven me. But I have to do what is lawful and right in the sight of God by giving out the fund to the chosen ministry or charity eg: for the purpose of God's work as instructed by the owner before her death. After my fasting and prayers, I asked God to make his choice and direct me to a honest Christian but after my fervent prayer over it, then you were nominated to me through divine revelation from God, so these are how I received such a divine revelation from the Lord, how I got your contact information, and I then decided to contact you for the fund to be used wisely for things that will glorify the name of God. I have notified the Security Company where I deposited the fund that I am moving the package to abroad and the security company has since been waiting for my authority for the consignment to leave my country and move to abroad. You should also forward to me your telephone and fax number for easy communication and to fax you the documents concern are in my position. Prompt response will be highly appreciated. Yours in Christ Barrister Sam Obodo
--0-1336399389-1218064079=:37282-- From sam_obodo12@ymail.com Wed Aug 6 23:13:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from n5d.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n5d.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.89]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 624373BFB8 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 23:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.13.26] by n5.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2008 23:06:52 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.161] by t3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2008 23:06:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp102.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2008 23:06:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 854288.98739.bm@omp102.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 18458 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Aug 2008 23:06:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ymail_nen1; d=ymail.com; h=Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=gV50lP0n2DqrDfwQveLlqJA2+5Dw6NxWQ5+EL79reXT+Uxq01/zPc9zXZm9I0oIV3KJhzgvqH+Y8QFgPs45GeI9zJvnWezQ71X8sez9zguWWBm57Fj0UoPCYlzC0xiUCTvAC1YObDbRNUi1TJf2cPA+B/muzF+fSEOIOdY92Rsg=; Received: from [41.219.194.18] by web59613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:06:52 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:06:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Obodo Reply-To: samobodo31@ymail.com Subject: One With Christ To: looparc@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2121989976-1218064012=:4145" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <703002.4145.qm@web59613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --0-2121989976-1218064012=:4145 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a new email address!You can now email me at: sam_obodo12@ymail.com - One With Christ It's my pleasure to share my testimony with you, I am Rev Barrister Sam Obodo , the legal adviser to late Mr and Mrs Zech Joseph a Russian couple that lived in my Country U.K for 25 years before they died in auto crash at Totlenham court airpress way, They are good Christian, They so Dedicated to God but they had no child till they died. Throughout their stayed in the country, they acquired a lot of properties, house properties, etc. As their legal adviser, before their death, they Instructed me to write their WILL. Because they had no child, they dedicated their wealth to God. According to the WILL, the properties have to be sold and the money will be given out to a ministry for the work of God, Orphanages and less privileges ones. As Their legal adviser, all the documents for the Properties were in my care. They gave me the authority to sell the properties and give out the fund to the Ministries for the work of God. In short, I sold all the properties after their death, as they instructed and as matter of fact, after I sold all their properties, I realized more than Ten million, five hundred thousand US Dollars ($10.500,000,00), and what supposed to be the percentage interest of my right legal fee was firstly deducted by me out of the total amount realized from the sold properties, this was base on the initial agreement between me and the owner of the properties before their death. Therefore the total amount left to be invested into God's work as instructed by the owner is Ten million, five hundred thousand US Dollars ($10.500,000,00) only. But Instead of giving the main fund out for the work of God as instructed to me by the owner before their death. I have intention of investing the fund in abroad for personal use. then packaged the fund and deposited it with a security Finance Firm. I did not want the management of the Security finance to know the content of the consignments; therefore I registered the content of the consignments as family treasure. Now, the security company believes that what I deposited with them was family treasure.I had encounter with Christ when Rev. Billy Graham was preaching on television concerning Amanas and Sapphire in Acts 5:1-11. After hearing the word of God, I gave my life to Christ and became a born again Christian. As a born again Christian, I started reading my bible and knowing who is God and becaome a Preacher in a Missionary, one day the Lord opened my eyes to Ezekiel 33: 18 and 19 where the word of God says: "When the righteous truth from his righteousness, and committed iniquity, he shall even die thereby. But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby". From the scripture, I discovered that the only way I could have peace in my life is to do what is lawful and right by Giving out the fund as instructed for the work of God by the owner before her death. I have asked God for forgiveness and I know that God have forgiven me. But I have to do what is lawful and right in the sight of God by giving out the fund to the chosen ministry or charity eg: for the purpose of God's work as instructed by the owner before her death. After my fasting and prayers, I asked God to make his choice and direct me to a honest Christian but after my fervent prayer over it, then you were nominated to me through divine revelation from God, so these are how I received such a divine revelation from the Lord, how I got your contact information, and I then decided to contact you for the fund to be used wisely for things that will glorify the name of God. I have notified the Security Company where I deposited the fund that I am moving the package to abroad and the security company has since been waiting for my authority for the consignment to leave my country and move to abroad. You should also forward to me your telephone and fax number for easy communication and to fax you the documents concern are in my position. Prompt response will be highly appreciated. Yours in Christ Barrister Sam Obodo --0-2121989976-1218064012=:4145 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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- One With Christ It's my pleasure to share my testimony with you, I am Rev Barrister Sam Obodo , the legal adviser to late Mr and Mrs Zech Joseph a Russian couple that lived in my Country U.K for 25 years before they died in auto crash at Totlenham court airpress way, They are good Christian, They so Dedicated to God but they had no child till they died. Throughout their stayed in the country, they acquired a lot of properties, house properties, etc. As their legal adviser, before their death, they Instructed me to write their WILL. Because they had no child, they dedicated their wealth to God. According to the WILL, the properties have to be sold and the money will be given out to a ministry for the work of God, Orphanages and less privileges ones. As Their legal adviser, all the documents for the Properties were in my care. They gave me the authority to sell the properties and give out the fund to the Ministries for the work of God. In short, I sold all the properties after their death, as they instructed and as matter of fact, after I sold all their properties, I realized more than Ten million, five hundred thousand US Dollars ($10.500,000,00), and what supposed to be the percentage interest of my right legal fee was firstly deducted by me out of the total amount realized from the sold properties, this was base on the initial agreement between me and the owner of the properties before their death. Therefore the total amount left to be invested into God's work as instructed by the owner is Ten million, five hundred thousand US Dollars ($10.500,000,00) only. But Instead of giving the main fund out for the work of God as instructed to me by the owner before their death. I have intention of investing the fund in abroad for personal use. then packaged the fund and deposited it with a security Finance Firm. I did not want the management of the Security finance to know the content of the consignments; therefore I registered the content of the consignments as family treasure. Now, the security company believes that what I deposited with them was family treasure.I had encounter with Christ when Rev. Billy Graham was preaching on television concerning Amanas and Sapphire in Acts 5:1-11. After hearing the word of God, I gave my life to Christ and became a born again Christian. As a born again Christian, I started reading my bible and knowing who is God and becaome a Preacher in a Missionary, one day the Lord opened my eyes to Ezekiel 33: 18 and 19 where the word of God says: "When the righteous truth from his righteousness, and committed iniquity, he shall even die thereby. But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby". From the scripture, I discovered that the only way I could have peace in my life is to do what is lawful and right by Giving out the fund as instructed for the work of God by the owner before her death. I have asked God for forgiveness and I know that God have forgiven me. But I have to do what is lawful and right in the sight of God by giving out the fund to the chosen ministry or charity eg: for the purpose of God's work as instructed by the owner before her death. After my fasting and prayers, I asked God to make his choice and direct me to a honest Christian but after my fervent prayer over it, then you were nominated to me through divine revelation from God, so these are how I received such a divine revelation from the Lord, how I got your contact information, and I then decided to contact you for the fund to be used wisely for things that will glorify the name of God. I have notified the Security Company where I deposited the fund that I am moving the package to abroad and the security company has since been waiting for my authority for the consignment to leave my country and move to abroad. You should also forward to me your telephone and fax number for easy communication and to fax you the documents concern are in my position. Prompt response will be highly appreciated. Yours in Christ Barrister Sam Obodo
--0-2121989976-1218064012=:4145-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 02:19:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D3E03BFC5; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 02:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_3125242842483357 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:19:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: <0d3b27953485499ebcf9fd934e67751a@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 02:19:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_3125242842483357 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0Aah, come on guys ... no offense, but this is just scratching th= e surface ..... if you really want to optimize windows for audio, there are= some other things you should really know about .....=0D=0A=0D=0A1 - DPC's = (Deferred Procedure Calls) ......=0D=0A=0D=0AWindows handles driver request= s (DPCs) in a first in, first out, manner (as opposed to prioritizing Drive= r calls)...... really dumb because some drivers (like audio) need to be ser= vices every time, or bad things happen (clicks, clacks and audio dropouts) = ........ whereas drivers like .... say ... wireless connections ... do not = .... but too often a badly written driver will do something which takes too= much time and the audio buffer will not get serviced and CLICK. DPC dropo= uts (and not program bandwidths) are the main source of audio dropouts.=0D= =0A=0D=0ASo .. what to do ... first, download the "DPC Latency Checker" uti= lity .....http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml=0D=0A=0D=0ARun it = and your looper .... and see what sorts of latencies you get ..... the soft= ware will tell you if your system can handle audio without dropouts. If it= goes to red, that is because some driver is taking too much time ..... you= need to disable it.=0D=0A=0D=0AYou can adjust the registry and play with w= indows settings all you want ..... but will probably not find the right thi= ng to turn off. A better approach is to run MSCONFIG ... just go to Run ..= on the windows start menu .... and type in msconfig ... or msconfig.exe fo= r some systems.=0D=0A=0D=0AThis is the ONLY way to get a full list of backg= round processes and services running on the machine. Turn off anything tha= t you don't need .... and try the DPC checker again. A good way to start i= s to use the "turn off all non-critical tasks" and then turn stuff back on = one by one. This will require restarting. Startup items are best turned o= ff as well in my opinion .. though most of them are actually harmless.=0D= =0A=0D=0A2 - ASIO ASIO ASIO -------=0D=0A=0D=0AThis was already mentioned, = but it is really important. This could not be more clear .... ASIO is twic= e the speed (half the latency ..... 6-8 ms) of DirectX and 5 to 10 times as= fast as most WDM based drivers.=0D=0A=0D=0ABy the way, ASIO4All and other = universal drivers wrap windows drivers and DirectX drivers to make them ASI= O compliant .... but do not be fooled ..... this will NOT get you better la= tency .... you need to have a soundcard with native ASIO driver. Most devi= ces are nowadays, so this should be easy enough ......=0D=0A=0D=0A =0D=0A= =0D=0A----------------------------------------=0D=0AFrom: "Raul Bonell" =0D=0ASent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:25 AM=0D=0ATo= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: Optimizing Windows = for looping =0D=0A=0D=0A... but if i remember correctly,this does not deact= ivate the startupsound not the outro. you must go and tweak the register di= rectly.=0D=0Ait's all in the www.xpmusic.net=0D=0A=0D=0A2008/8/6 andy butle= r =0D=0A=0D=0AWhich reminds me.=0D=0A=0D=0AAnother = good optimisation is to=0D=0A=0D=0Aselect "No Sounds" for all the Windows s= ystem sounds.=0D=0A=0D=0Aandy =0D=0A=0D=0Aimprov@peak.org wrote:=0D=0A=0D= =0ANo way! At the end of our gigs, I'll often play the Windows shutdown sou= nd=0D=0A=0D=0Athrough my bass amp (1200 watts of QSC through Trace Elliott = speakers). It=0D=0A=0D=0Aalways elicits a laugh. I do try to remember to mu= te the laptop channel if=0D=0A=0D=0AI have to reboot during a gig, though.= =0D=0A=0D=0AOh, there is one thing I would do. Turn that damn Windows intro= duction=0D=0A=0D=0Amusic=0D=0A=0D=0Aoff so that it doesn't play when it reb= oots! :) Wow. At one gig, I had my=0D=0A=0D=0Alaptop plugged into the PA, = and turned up loud, and that Windows tune=0D=0A=0D=0Ashook=0D=0A=0D=0Athe h= ouse. /K Talk about embarassing.=0D=0A=0D=0A-- =0D=0AThe Playing Orchestra:= http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo=0D=0AChain Tape Collective: http://www.= ct-collective.com=0D=0A=0D=0ATPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplay= ingorchestra=0D=0ATPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com=0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_3125242842483357 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

ah, come on guys ... no offense, but this is just scratching the su= rface ..... if you really want to optimize windows for audio, there are som= e other things you should really know about .....


1 - DPC's (Def= erred Procedure Calls) ......

Windows handles driver requests (DPCs)= in a first in, first out, manner (as opposed to prioritizing Driver calls)= ...... really dumb because some drivers (like audio) need to be services ev= ery time, or bad things happen (clicks, clacks and audio dropouts) ........= whereas drivers like .... say ... wireless connections ... do not .... but= too often a badly written driver will do something which takes too much ti= me and the audio buffer will not get serviced and CLICK.  DPC dropouts= (and not program bandwidths)  are the main source of audio dropouts.<= br>
So .. what to do ... first, download the "DPC Latency Checker" utili= ty .....http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

Run it and yo= ur looper .... and see what sorts of latencies you get ..... the software w= ill tell you if your system can handle audio without dropouts.  If it = goes to red, that is because some driver is taking too much time ..... you = need to disable it.

You can adjust the registry and play with window= s settings all you want ..... but will probably not find the right thing to= turn off.  A better approach is to run MSCONFIG ... just go to Run ..= on the windows start menu .... and type in msconfig ... or msconfig.exe fo= r some systems.

This is the ONLY way to get a full list of backgroun= d processes and services running on the machine.  Turn off anything th= at you don't need .... and try the DPC checker again.  A good way to s= tart is to use the "turn off all non-critical tasks" and then turn stuff ba= ck on one by one.  This will require restarting.  Startup items a= re best turned off as well in my opinion .. though most of them are actuall= y harmless.

2 - ASIO ASIO ASIO -------

This was already menti= oned, but it is really important.  This could not be more clear .... A= SIO is twice the speed (half the latency ..... 6-8 ms) of DirectX and 5 to = 10 times as fast as most WDM based drivers.

By the way, ASIO4All and= other universal drivers wrap windows drivers and DirectX drivers to make t= hem ASIO compliant .... but do not be fooled ..... this will NOT get you be= tter latency .... you need to have a soundcard with native ASIO driver.&nbs= p; Most devices are nowadays, so this should be easy enough ......

<= br> 















From: "Raul Bonell" <raul.bon= ell@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:2= 5 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping

... but if i remember correctly,
this does not deactivate the= startup
sound not the outro. you must go 
and twe= ak the register directly.

it's all in the www.xpmusic.net
=0D=0A

2008/8/6 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
=0D=0AWhich reminds m= e.
=0D=0A
=0D=0AAnother good optimisation is to
=0D=0Aselect "No S= ounds" for all the Windows system sounds.
=0D=0A=
=0D=0Aandy

=0D=0A
= =0D=0A
=0D=0Aimprov= @peak.org wrote:
=0D=0A
=0D=0ANo way! At the end of our gigs, I'll often play the Wind= ows shutdown sound
=0D=0Athrough my bass amp (1200 watts of QSC through = Trace Elliott speakers). It
=0D=0Aalways elicits a laugh. I do try to re= member to mute the laptop channel if
=0D=0AI have to reboot during a gig= , though.
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
=0D=0AOh, there is one thing I would do. Turn that damn Windows= introduction
=0D=0Amusic
=0D=0Aoff so that it doesn't play when it r= eboots!  :) Wow. At one gig, I had my
=0D=0Alaptop plugged into the= PA, and turned up loud, and that Windows tune
=0D=0Ashook
=0D=0Athe = house. /K Talk about embarassing.
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
=0D=0A=0D=0A
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
=0D=0A



--
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Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
=0D=0ATPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayi= ngorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http:= //www.jamendo.com
=0D=0A

------_SmarterMail_NextPart_3125242842483357-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 02:27:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47F673BFBB; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 02:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=hjDh4o4IN3cbd8N5qPj8BQWA+Xo3TU/eQ+A0r+wp4ig=; b=hf8Yt3BuHE4Qb/IZRbTwax84gjaKEKb2DXJ8ZwEgrSvEln1bzbfLEGP05shmajXMSm /3FK9aQVGCUccRV664eiZfNDS0CsjwPLcCP3gGr3MBuJixflGw+wGzjUb23BA+x/3dlP 9uf0vQ5BMK+8n1lSll4q0TOsicN2C7l4WTnXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=rVyV0Ej8xZ91x9xh6E+m89ORzT13s/gtnt/8zT3Y4jIW+dV3T4sQT5PLWGoJHmLpa/ ka+Ysv+qlsyJ4tU9b2OjnKFGH4s4o6cjFoc2+PBEBEDlirkPyEbWKbMXf2QTm+ZL25S6 qEe3fq4kaIGfNZinmSdEUvQuNn2rl30hrEZDI= Message-ID: <913728d60808061927r276168fcgd2a2df5174d4c109@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:27:38 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: is there a Bidule-type program that can run on Ubuntu linux? In-Reply-To: <489A1A52.1020108@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16402_27760055.1218076058961" References: <913728d60808041529t1373fe23o926e6c1e432b32d4@mail.gmail.com> <489A1A52.1020108@addcom.de> Resent-Message-ID: <_Eio4.A.gGB.c2lmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 02:27:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16402_27760055.1218076058961 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for that! I read a little bit about Ubuntu Studio a few years back but i didn't really what it was about--I'll check it out now that I have gotten a little more familiar with linux. I still will give an attempt at wine with bidule--best case scenerio, it works! Charlie On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Charlie Milkey schrieb: > >> anyways, I really like Bidule. I would love to use it on a linux computer >> and go from there--does anyone know if there is one like it that can run on >> Ubuntu Linux? >> > > Get Ubuntu Studio, it will come with Pd. As with Max/MSP it is a good tool > to create your own looping software, both share the same history... > Though Bidule doesn't run natively on Linux, you could give it a try with > wine... (I even got a Max runtime going with Linux...) > > also, are VST OS-specific? i have a feeling they are, and that might make >> things a little more difficult than I expected! >> > > As far as I know you can run VST's under Linux. But I don't know the > details. All these VST hardware boxes run Linux under the hood... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > ------=_Part_16402_27760055.1218076058961 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Thanks for that! I read a little bit about Ubuntu Studio a few years back but i didn't really what it was about--I'll check it out now that I have gotten a little more familiar with linux.

I still will give an attempt at wine with bidule--best case scenerio, it works!


Charlie

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> wrote:
Charlie Milkey schrieb:

anyways, I really like Bidule. I would love to use it on a linux computer and go from there--does anyone know if there is one like it that can run on Ubuntu Linux?

Get Ubuntu Studio, it will come with Pd. As with Max/MSP it is a good tool to create your own looping software, both share the same history...
Though Bidule doesn't run natively on Linux, you could give it a try with wine... (I even got a Max runtime going with Linux...)


also, are VST OS-specific? i have a feeling they are, and that might make things a little more difficult than I expected!

As far as I know you can run VST's under Linux. But I don't know the details. All these VST hardware boxes run Linux under the hood...

Stefan

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Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
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--(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
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------=_Part_16402_27760055.1218076058961-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 03:01:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5363F3BFBC; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 03:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=OGSuFVooKOj23FolRvt4xV1uFStsxsuS5kolcjFnfS8=; b=xPQXkFogLCPBrxDJESt7ZVA+yH9mAbMhf8NZscSDcKrvPTLHKSn3BjSMPFRa1JVIeK jkcbuYpS8q6L8n8en1D6zQ+mKbUXZ4VjtKNSC4q4I7xTDoJ5TbIV5Fw2gtwzKuAEdyeY lkdXdXu4tygPx8tJALI/Ny82q5Y8LguikGt5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=driTmb2el9C/j4dZGpXkovTCBvlpB3AEqwQIH4L8OJh1r6ECqa9KJIitBa3v4vEZqc xvTEkj0E4n1MxPh3gN0TovRa3fOdUYXntUvJrIjKBKbCu/bCWT6gh2OmTSiRcQgajX/r XBmIOBoZOl8F5+bhbTEBYAfEozCEzyhKbvVA0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:01:32 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Optimizing Windows for looping In-Reply-To: <0d3b27953485499ebcf9fd934e67751a@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14789_1978263.1218078092581" References: <0d3b27953485499ebcf9fd934e67751a@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 03:01:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14789_1978263.1218078092581 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > By the way, ASIO4All and other universal drivers wrap windows drivers and > DirectX drivers to make them ASIO compliant .... but do not be fooled ..... > this will NOT get you better latency .... you need to have a soundcard with > native ASIO driver. Most devices are nowadays, so this should be easy > enough ...... > Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. Yeah, I tried ASIO4All on my MacBook and it blew chunks. Much slower than the original DirectX drivers. I have ordered an Echo AudioFire 4 and will see how that goes. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_14789_1978263.1218078092581 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
By the way, ASIO4All and other universal drivers wrap windows drivers and DirectX drivers to make them ASIO compliant .... but do not be fooled ..... this will NOT get you better latency .... you need to have a soundcard with native ASIO driver.  Most devices are nowadays, so this should be easy enough ......

Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. Yeah, I tried ASIO4All on my MacBook and it blew chunks. Much slower than the original DirectX drivers. I have ordered an Echo AudioFire 4 and will see how that goes.

--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net
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--0-230104962-1218095166=:52890-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 10:44:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E11533BFC5; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:44:51 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <489AD223.5010809@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: <1KBf1.A.RtB.mItmIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:44:54 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Check out Afterglow on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/afterglowonwmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Trance Spirits" by Steve Roach and Jeffrey Fayman on Projekt Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#jul Become a friend of Galactic Travels on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, August 9 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh ====================================================================== All times are EDT/GMT-4/ITZ-5. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 10:54:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 880FA3BFE6; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=Upkpp907XKv+joR8VYpPMbcMaQPm8gUzrWRUYn1VhV0=; b=ScTzPFybEJIcVV4AfYu7WMtf59n3jGB3A3Dmr+sRVRHMZlSCtuf+lLiTLpu7K9/bcd MLtbJMeKZFfL9OAqGchVlaGp0maCJvaZp6KxEL6ugM193jkGA2O1pdGWsuDWA4Q9DU/B vhaMAnw6jb6x7h6foMb1BXn6G2heydmeaQDjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=FJ7i7/iQp1DMLWeDMvpR+IgGPlmqkdrPKN/y6lkJNpZQAGupetTcq+059MuFswXz1x Otjjyy+N7N1juBoZu6zFXiKQknmjmtOChA4znEKsx9oLDeSiv7YYaZHSo0Qf7oJYLwLj g3wAgeRJfQ4VEunTr77r31CMy89brLwf+W2JU= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808070354i335896c2n5c0995eddcef2df6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:54:02 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: looping video posted: "Two fretless guitars and drum kit ensemble improv" (was; old rig v.s new rig) Cc: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:54:03 +0000 (UTC) > Thanks Boysen - Sewell and Hartung for your answers. > > Hartung - I looked at your videos - their nice - but regarding my > > questions - I would have needed to see your interaction with instrument > > and your controllers. The video only shows your fingers. But thanks anyway. > > best regards Rune Fagereng HI, I just uploaded a video that shows quite a lot of the interaction you mentioned: http://www.myspace.com/perboysen - the first video in the blog section, titled "Ensemble improv: Two fretless guitars and drum kit ensemble improv: Two fretless guitars and drum kit". This particular concert was a funny one because not only did we play some parts in total darkness, to let Rick Walker's plastic instruments and futuristic haircut glow, but we also ran into a total breakdown of Rick's looping gear three minutes into the concert. When that happened we left the manuscript we had prepared in advance and started playing totally freely - Rick also totally acoustically, which he did very well IMO. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 10:55:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B2403BFE1; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 18283 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:55:16 UTC Message-ID: <735E40BABA334C998B1C8D6AE5E2F613@GeoffPC> From: "geoff james" To: Subject: repeater mk 2 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:50:25 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0097_01C8F894.8B5C0110" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150201.489A8D27.0097,ss=1,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:55:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C8F894.8B5C0110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi , i'm new to the list and would like some info regarding the above = sampler. 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------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C8F894.8B5C0110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 14:01:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E4133BFF6; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4btjhLVZi7gSQsa7vtjcez1GNaEDSbEppE/VRBmQFxA=; b=p1tOuCNCnw7kRcvG5NE0FJpR6Cj36E2ye7I2g8f1UD/ewg33Fynnz2yzQLznNvOovj i+oocmx7QlQNIc3mARniotfexPmYRaueZnMWycpslpV6LrMO8asKsW/nczk+2Z3AG14Z nSx4lnibNPk1CHekvzHIEiDXmkbqesg+9qjYk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Vm4kjtC5fRlafv97UCkGJ5a/bXpVlExE8PkSMEDGhrVLxU4D8w/UOTUTpdeenDCW3s x1zqC+tPz002ypnqag7FGa4BP+vGqGLcsOgL0CBnAeB2KJ0fN9elgqS0CR/LXGnDzW9Q 7BJ55GCoetp2RS8yOjFwuuOFl1VoJt0eQ+xnc= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:01:36 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping video posted: "Two fretless guitars and drum kit ensemble improv" (was; old rig v.s new rig) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808070354i335896c2n5c0995eddcef2df6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_39352_24771690.1218117696278" References: <66f9cc1e0808070354i335896c2n5c0995eddcef2df6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:01:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_39352_24771690.1218117696278 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline really nice. also discovered the other videos as well.rick's fantastic... have you noticed how he listens to the complete mass of loopage and adapts his timing accordingly? ... besides he's glowing futuristic atrezzo which is so famous among LD community. ;-) 2008/8/7 Per Boysen > > Thanks Boysen - Sewell and Hartung for your answers. > > > > Hartung - I looked at your videos - their nice - but regarding my > > > > questions - I would have needed to see your interaction with instrument > > > > and your controllers. The video only shows your fingers. But thanks > anyway. > > > > best regards Rune Fagereng > > > HI, > > I just uploaded a video that shows quite a lot of the interaction you > mentioned: > > http://www.myspace.com/perboysen - the first video in the blog > section, titled "Ensemble improv: Two fretless guitars and drum kit > ensemble improv: Two fretless guitars and drum kit". > > This particular concert was a funny one because not only did we play > some parts in total darkness, to let Rick Walker's plastic instruments > and futuristic haircut glow, but we also ran into a total breakdown of > Rick's looping gear three minutes into the concert. When that happened > we left the manuscript we had prepared in advance and started playing > totally freely - Rick also totally acoustically, which he did very > well IMO. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_39352_24771690.1218117696278 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
really nice. also discovered the other videos as well.
rick's fantastic... have you noticed how he listens to the complete mass of loopage and adapts his timing accordingly?  ... besides he's glowing futuristic atrezzo which is so famous among LD community.  ;-) 

2008/8/7 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> Thanks Boysen - Sewell and Hartung for your answers.
>
> Hartung - I looked at your videos - their nice - but regarding my
>
> questions - I would have needed to see your interaction with instrument
>
> and your controllers. The video only shows your fingers. But thanks anyway.
>
> best regards Rune Fagereng


HI,

I just uploaded a video that shows quite a lot of the interaction you mentioned:

http://www.myspace.com/perboysen - the first video in the blog
section, titled "Ensemble improv: Two fretless guitars and drum kit
ensemble improv: Two fretless guitars and drum kit".

This particular concert was a funny one because not only did we play
some parts in total darkness, to let Rick Walker's plastic instruments
and futuristic haircut glow, but we also ran into a total breakdown of
Rick's looping gear three minutes into the concert. When that happened
we left the manuscript we had prepared in advance and started playing
totally freely - Rick also totally acoustically, which he did very
well IMO.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_39352_24771690.1218117696278-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 14:10:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C2EB3BFE2; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=CDXYjSAFouxT3Odlevll1kD3pLzv8YAEoheIl8UVew4=; b=KJE5XSp4pnPyP1Yk9duBpCUqEYJ4g9WvabBQ3UB3aTJF3aquPyuAyzkSHJMfv1mUuC iqK6fqlOAcAuhcB1AUPdSgsBXqv6tBF630Ht0oMDa3ZrI2lwK2ozcmP0P89cgnK1u31q 0qWSSS5TofsHig1s4j0uszlgcgwRS2nn3jNpI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BAOYau/GNGozxfMk6xvlZWJSUGY7tf+vNnOLZcIunyHYvCRauXWBK6xevKRvaBH7hk j+C3VmniwocUiXZKigvaF+JxHLQDl3sCOsKO1pY4Qn/CqtaWGqp4w+9LtM5NzCEiMTQo l7ukvvBohFso1nghTnmINyplMCJ9aL/0+FbVg= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:10:49 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "What Might Future Digital Notation Look Like?" In-Reply-To: <20080806171433.14E343BFB1@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_39512_32916527.1218118250360" References: <66f9cc1e0808050455j24d7994hec40fa12626adfd5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808050701v5fd92f65v4b38111bc2f9da90@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051319y1d0f15b1v30d2a1f44ff22dda@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060223v70dd0d5au9066ad2780dab13@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808060304ud699594k8a0e2fa7f4036d84@mail.gmail.com> <20080806171433.14E343BFB1@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:10:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_39512_32916527.1218118250360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/6 Sean Echevarria > mark was not saying that electronica and metal are like classical in that > they are scored/composed on paper; they are alike in that the sound/timbre > really makes the music live. sorry. i misunderstood that. my fault. bad english. i'll improve that for my next life. though maybe i don't need it there ... raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_39512_32916527.1218118250360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/6 Sean Echevarria <sean.loop@creepingfog.com>
mark was not saying that electronica and metal are like classical in that they are scored/composed on paper; they are alike in that the sound/timbre really makes the music live.


sorry. i misunderstood that. my fault. bad english. i'll improve that for my next life. though maybe i don't need it there ...

raul.

--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_39512_32916527.1218118250360-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 16:48:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E90883BFA6; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <489B2767.1030802@gordius.be> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:48:39 +0200 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers Gordius References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sjaak,

I was taking some time off at the time of your post, and I read you're doing the same right now, still let me post a few short remarks about what has been discussed :
- the Little Giant as desktop controller, controlled "by hand" - that's how I have been using it the last year, my fingers aren't blue yet ;-) The switches were specifically chosen for that (usable as foot switch and as "hand" switch), but of course that also means the controller is some sort of compromise, very compact as floorboard but then again way too big to be the ideal set top box.
- being guitar specific : the Little Giant was born as an extension to the UnO firmware for the FCB, which on its own was mainly inspired by guitarist remarks indeed (while it initially contained only what I needed myself, which were keyboard related bugfixes/add-ons, like MIDI merge, easy transposing, MIDI based sustain pedal, etc).  After that I tried to keep the Little Giant as "universal" as possible, but indeed this list and Andy's input more specifically were very helpful to integrate some looper-specific remarks. I find it very funny and inspiring to see the weird (non-guitarist) things which are currently being done with the controller, for instance recently by Bram Wiersma, who is controlling a (puppet) theater show with it (lighting, sequencers, video projection, MIDI streams containing scary chord progressions, etc.. :-)
- but one more remark which might be interesting, as I believe you are currently using an FC-300 : I'm about to order one myself and make the LG module compatible with it. Which means the small module can be placed on top of a piano, as an extension to the FC-300. You can see a setlist, and the single rotary button can be used to scroll through the list and modify the floorboard layout for each song. Of course switching on and off effects would still be the task for the FC-300 floorboard (I'm thinking of a way to display a stomp box status overview on the graphical LCD screen - might be very handy for this kind of setup)
- o yes, and one last point concerning a setup like yours: I'm definitely open for suggestions about displaying LP-1 info on the module display, if Bob thinks that's feasible/interesting without much effort on his side. This once was a very vague idea of mine which got buried in lots of other things to implement first, I didn't have a closer look at the LP-1 manual yet to find out if this suggestion makes sense at all, I'm sure Bob will stop me if it doesn't :-)

Enjoy your holiday!

Xavier


Sjaak wrote: 
Hi Andy,
  
and in reply to sjaak
the Gordius Little Giant is aimed at Loopers as well as guitarists!
Xavier's been seriously taking on board my suggestions to this end.
    

I like the Gordius Little Giant because of it's midi capabilities but 
I play keyboards and I'm wondering if I could place it on top of my stage piano and use the switches without getting blue fingers! :) 

--- 
Sjaak
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 17:07:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EA143BFE6; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:07:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=m2KUxDgjAZfnScQX8KUBpcJXs6sLqCNgyVTtp2l8grs=; b=N3FWMkufah8+qe0t5yb7D6LjbdxQnUPT5h5ACW6GQlg8G/Flse0woooDdEH2skbxD0 bo+mt4l+W2ACdRQJs5wFQSALv//AJyYKov5m5ns9aOF0Y1CI7GTFkOUAcHpa37nf7F4W gU3602unmTxRvFd8hPl/u0tiHiGKWDtjgzYRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=OX9b9yV2M5GBnSIPYrHYj/QwNIBSM97F0MzmNqkFwj9JHaUxwJzZidBtHReHqP+S4V 8AlIDfU2x6YrHgo+Yfu19ggeHw7sNLNqOlFPyPRJO9chIZSk6evnyZFEb/czU7u5CM8X lGk/4WjDKyppkoViXGNthgqbjLyyx/zCpXiQk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <489B2767.1030802@gordius.be> References: <489B2767.1030802@gordius.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <06A01034-5911-4784-8A82-D637DD7A8E16@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: topu lyo Subject: GIG Tonight NYC Caffe Vivaldi! 10pm *FREE Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:06:27 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:07:09 +0000 (UTC) Hey Everyone! I will be playing a show tonight at 10pm Caffe Vivaldi (west village) 10pm free 5-string Electric Cello + FX EDP w/ a drummer the music is compositional/electro/dance drum 'n bass there will be tons of loopage going on!! come out and say "hi" -topu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 20:59:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2999F3BFDC; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1EB2A8AFB28D4043A62233FFCF98E609@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Bands/Musicians Wanted For Cancer Charity CD! Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:59:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <1xliiB.A.XVG.3I2mIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:59:35 +0000 (UTC) > All genres are accepted, however, we would really like to keep this CD > positive and upbeat! Well, that much rules me out. :) Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 21:01:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC0C73BFC0; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Fw: Computer Music Special 23 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:01:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03B1_01C8F89E.696DBDA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <_CzbgD.A.VfG.SK2mIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:01:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03B1_01C8F89E.696DBDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Huh? Cripes. :( =20 Well, can somone scan the VST section and send it to me? I'll send you = my latest CD in return. Kris **** Dear Mr Hartung Thank you for your request dated 31/7/08 for a copy of the above = publication. I regret to inform you that no longer have any stock of = this issue and are therefore unable to process your request. I can confirm that your Visa card has not been charged. please accept my apologies for any disappointment caused. kind regards Helen Crooks Data Entry Team Leader ------=_NextPart_000_03B1_01C8F89E.696DBDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Huh?  Cripes.  :(   =
 
Well, can somone scan the VST section = and send it=20 to me? I'll send you my latest CD in return.
 
Kris
 
****
Dear = Mr=20 Hartung
 
Thank = you for your=20 request dated 31/7/08 for a copy of the above publication.  I = regret to=20 inform you that no longer have any stock of this issue and are therefore = unable=20 to process your request.
 
I can = confirm that=20 your Visa card has not been charged.
 
please = accept my=20 apologies for any disappointment caused.
 
kind=20 regards
 
 
 
Helen Crooks
Data Entry=20 Team Leader

 
------=_NextPart_000_03B1_01C8F89E.696DBDA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 21:52:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECAAA3BFD3; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:52:12 UTC Message-Id: From: Mark Landman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: New software looper Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:30:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Looks interesting- http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it depends how well that works for "live" looping needs. Best- Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 22:08:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70D963BFE8; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:08:13 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_334b315c-b492-414b-b058-ad6ee6cd13d8_" X-Originating-IP: [67.83.205.151] From: David Grego To: Subject: RE: GIG Tonight NYC Caffe Vivaldi! 10pm *FREE Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:03:12 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <06A01034-5911-4784-8A82-D637DD7A8E16@gmail.com> References: <489B2767.1030802@gordius.be> <06A01034-5911-4784-8A82-D637DD7A8E16@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2008 22:03:12.0421 (UTC) FILETIME=[62800D50:01C8F8D9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:08:14 +0000 (UTC) --_334b315c-b492-414b-b058-ad6ee6cd13d8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What time are you playing until? David =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > From: topulyo@gmail.com > Subject: GIG Tonight NYC Caffe Vivaldi! 10pm *FREE > Date: Thu=2C 7 Aug 2008 13:06:27 -0400 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hey Everyone! >=20 > I will be playing a show tonight at 10pm > Caffe Vivaldi (west village) > 10pm > free >=20 > 5-string Electric Cello + FX EDP > w/ a drummer >=20 > the music is compositional/electro/dance drum 'n bass >=20 > there will be tons of loopage going on!! >=20 > come out and say "hi" >=20 > -topu >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia= Contest http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergames?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM= --_334b315c-b492-414b-b058-ad6ee6cd13d8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What time are you playing until? David
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Win Prizes in th= e Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest Find o= ut how. = --_334b315c-b492-414b-b058-ad6ee6cd13d8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 23:11:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B86143BFB4; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: OT Hans Reichel Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 01:11:51 +0200 Message-ID: <002e01c8f8e2$fa52d910$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj44vmzJ++oGCTeSNW9EJwreh6pvA== X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.19; VDF: 7.0.5.224) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) if you have some time on your hands and a fast internet connection, check out the www.daxo.de website of German avant guitarist Hans Reichel who also invented the daxophone instrument and earns his money as a font designer ... incredible and funny Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 7 23:37:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4830C3BFBC; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=wmxROyl33utWgoZbjq8oLDGrXrzWc+HjOqy6/RykiCE=; b=jqAlCavPdDnknld1Gm0twhk9qWsYo7DM6cy83mZhs5+76POLxX5ArgCC2lQoyy0iLf JJEfzMJsOqe3XRKPTxDN6MOpoyJpqpcwmP4I6EFMlbZmOpecTPfmWXu26YreP8zNahkc sQhXFXGaFaf57JIHmXt+1gZGc+HaWGheUS7v8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hZmOr8VmzpoahcPj8L83YQXHUZ9GCi4PyB6k2lHbIi9MLhQbb6bcA20eXTCUqPaKgE 31+8IrtNOhrb9s1aZ1DxTUTx3kX8WKorCy3nCsOT5YuMxtR7nFvYv0kZMkdJ7gzZEe9b sLWyXGD5XeeVFHa8Lgd8hUe8i/R/p6ZnVIv+Y= Message-ID: <588ce11d0808071637p26533597i5090a5186fb9ecad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:37:50 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Which issue of Computer Music has the 100 best freeware plug-ins? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Is it 23 or 30? It looks like this is just coming out and has yet to reach the US: http://www.computermusic.co.uk/page/computermusic?entry=the_best_free_plug_ins http://www.myfavouritemagazines.co.uk/store/displayitem.asp?sid=424&id=23475&custid=0&setext=magazine I was confused because last year Rick Walker pointed out the issue number 22 was all devoted to plug-ins (thanks Rick!) and I didn't realize at first that there is a new plug in issue this year. -- Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 02:47:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEF0B3BFA6; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 02:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_87c7ca85-1ce1-4e06-b087-c59a85b7252b_" X-Originating-IP: [75.121.103.104] From: J Johans To: Subject: RE: repeater mk 2 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:47:27 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <735E40BABA334C998B1C8D6AE5E2F613@GeoffPC> References: <735E40BABA334C998B1C8D6AE5E2F613@GeoffPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2008 02:47:28.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[18921710:01C8F901] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 02:47:29 +0000 (UTC) --_87c7ca85-1ce1-4e06-b087-c59a85b7252b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mk2 doesnt exist...dont think they ever even made a prototype electrix went unter for the 2nd or 3rd time=2C so i imagine they're done fo= r- the oriiginal repeater with version 2 software is pretty aweomse though- =20 feel free to email me if you have any questions =20 fro From: afas00@bigpond.net.auTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comSubject: = repeater mk 2Date: Thu=2C 7 Aug 2008 13:50:25 +0800 Hi =2C i'm new to the list and would like some info regarding the above sam= pler. I have googled etc =2C but get more confused with each seach. It seems it's been available =2C but out of stock and at a reduced price---= -go figure. Regards Geoff James _________________________________________________________________ Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. http://revealyourinnerathlete.windowslive.com?locale=3Den-us&ocid=3DTXT_TAG= LM_WLYIA_whichathlete_us= --_87c7ca85-1ce1-4e06-b087-c59a85b7252b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mk2 doesnt exist...dont think they ever even made a prototype
electrix went unter for the 2nd or 3rd time=2C so i imagine they're done fo= r-
the oriiginal repeater with version 2 software is pretty aweomse though-  =3B
feel free to email me if you have any questions
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From: afas00@bigpond.net.au
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
S= ubject: repeater mk 2
Date: Thu=2C 7 Aug 2008 13:50:25 +0800


Hi =2C i'm new to the list and would like = some info regarding the above sampler.
I have googled etc =2C but get more confus= ed with each seach.
It seems it's been available =2C but out o= f stock and at a reduced price----go figure.
Regards
Geoff James

Reveal= your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. Share now! = --_87c7ca85-1ce1-4e06-b087-c59a85b7252b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 03:09:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAA2E3BFA9; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <586D4E6FFC364B4291DF500C97FF8AF4@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: New software looper Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:09:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <8mGrYC.A.mtF.Ck7mIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I have to check this out. I think it was designed by tree huggers, though. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Looks interesting- > > http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php > > The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it depends how > well that works for "live" looping needs. > > Best- > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 03:21:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EE453BFA5; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gJvYco5IAAAA:8 a=kjQisy0j8zax8ON6SDYA:9 a=mABmOYVlw0xqfY5hD95S8ENoPyMA:4 a=WN8zLioqDSwA:10 Message-Id: <9C9D5ED6-84EE-4E6B-A290-AC9477F08D82@comcast.net> From: Chris Sewell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <586D4E6FFC364B4291DF500C97FF8AF4@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: Re: New software looper X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:21:20 -0400 References: <586D4E6FFC364B4291DF500C97FF8AF4@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, fuck trees! On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I > have to check this out. I think it was designed by tree huggers, > though. :) > > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> Looks interesting- >> >> http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php >> >> The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it >> depends how well that works for "live" looping needs. >> >> Best- >> >> Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 03:25:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A87E13BFA8; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <42DB7C087AED4C3690A3E55102396F8A@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <586D4E6FFC364B4291DF500C97FF8AF4@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9C9D5ED6-84EE-4E6B-A290-AC9477F08D82@comcast.net> Subject: Re: New software looper Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:25:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:25:37 +0000 (UTC) That's right. Aren't you a memeber of the Pave the Earth Society yet? Let's get it over with. Let the street sweepers rule. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Yeah, fuck trees! > On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I have to >> check this out. I think it was designed by tree huggers, though. :) >> >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> Looks interesting- >>> >>> http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php >>> >>> The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it depends >>> how well that works for "live" looping needs. >>> >>> Best- >>> >>> Mark >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 04:17:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3AC63BFA6; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 04:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=jJsxC87CCulisAX0SAXmZ2Zcmgk3Kni0lC+2IpmD+Ms=; b=YmeXeDaUOiD+ow4AvY9Gl9zbS+ulBFEMIawZbokYBn44ab5ZZiEl1r71bJiGHdQ5WD FqetQFy2OOtdbYSFBbn8o1ZGP1qHGLjtJ13iYZrBkc1eV2r+wjksOJDeS4v8XxNYPgW4 9qeZnB0Rd9VgB7rngj/AwylX0VtEie9ZcL91Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=DwQA5ESMMuQVwTgGO44JB2QHE2qfcwj6mdxuhWd5EXg76htP3XNgQvnwDAroTrixgx 6HFNBjuTH/pbKKEDkFTLiSh4QqM74Nhs3W9U88L6Qaaokh9k2mqHgdf/YimVa0n192vP Ys9pIgQW2yeu3MoOKGVe2fjwHiALFYmiKKg9A= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808072117r75278945h9f96834aeca7a316@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 00:17:14 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Chinapainting set plus Tim Nelson from Five Knaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4279_8959749.1218169034254" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 04:17:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4279_8959749.1218169034254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Following suit to Dennis's posting of portions of the *Five Knaves @ the Nave* collaborative concert last weekend, I'd like to announce for your listening the posting of our Chinapainting set plus the segue with Tim Nelson leading into his set. This was our format last Saturday at the Somerville MA evening that was pretty much a mini-east-fest plus one that hopefully will lead other movements from our LD community. Actually on July 18th as part of Daryl's eastern tour, he and Michael held what was albeit a great night in the end for them but initially was a similar planned gathering of a few of LD members so hopefully this kind of energy will keep rolling to the one day arrival of a major east coast loopfest. The Nave concert held in the suburban Boston Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church main auditorium was just a magical magical night that I can't say enough good about. True attendance could have been better but for 5 of us coming together for the shared music making experience who only 2 of us (Daryl and myself) who had officially met it was just as neat in many ways as it was when we bridged the electronic identity of Chinapainting last summer, meeting ourselves. With exception of Rob Byrd who was an outside LD acquaintance of Dennis's we all existed as members of LD through these wires so it was just very cool to come together in a great space, connect the names/faces/hearts/souls and do our art. For me this meeting went a bit further in connecting, as I initially met Tim Nelson in my early days of My Space networking before I found my Chinapainting colleague and before discovering LD. E conversations with Tim in the winter of 2006 led me to CT-Collective which led me to LD which led me to send an email to Daryl after reading his e article on analog tape looping and life in Mexico. So yes the whole evening was like old home week, just a great time and it was so good to introduce Chinapainting to new turf in Massachusetts. Little by little our journey goes... So here's the link. The format for the evening as I think Dennis mentioned earlier was our duo Chinapainting followed by a segue collab with Tim, then his set, collab with he and Dennis, then Dennis's set, collab with he and Rob, then Rob's set and finally an end of the night farewell with all five Knaves together. www.chinapaintingmusic.com/production/Chinapainting_plus_Tim_Nelson_collab_Live_at_the_Nave_8-2-08.mp3 (@91 mg) This is the beginning of several audio/video postings from Daryl and mine's Chinapainting mini-tour that was part of his 2 month long west coast/east coast solo tour. It's been a busy busy week at my day job this week and I just finally got through preparing this posting so look for others from our tour in the next couple of weeks. We did Chinapainting shows on July 26 in Brooklyn, July 27 and 28 in NYC and the Nave in Somerville on Aug 2nd. It was just a great week and our 3rd live get together of what was initially a "virtual" only band 2 years ago. It was so great to get together live again for these shows and we're in the midst of planning a 4th CP mini-tour in California during October, so getting very jazzed about that. So again to my fellow lists folks out east keep the energy rolling and let's do more collaborative events. Best to all Jim -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_4279_8959749.1218169034254 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Following suit to Dennis's posting of portions of the Five Knaves @ the Nave collaborative concert last weekend, I'd like to announce for your listening the posting of our Chinapainting set plus the segue with Tim Nelson leading into his set.  This was our format last Saturday at the Somerville MA evening that was pretty much a mini-east-fest plus one that hopefully will lead other movements from our LD community.  Actually on July 18th as part of Daryl's eastern tour, he and Michael held what was albeit a great night in the end for them but initially was a similar planned gathering of a few of LD members so hopefully this kind of energy will keep rolling to the one day arrival of a major east coast loopfest.
 
The Nave concert held in the suburban Boston Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church main auditorium was just a magical magical night that I can't say enough good about.  True attendance could have been better but for 5 of us coming together for the shared music making experience who only 2 of us (Daryl and myself) who had officially met it was just as neat in many ways as it was when we bridged the electronic identity of Chinapainting last summer, meeting ourselves.  With exception of Rob Byrd who was an outside LD acquaintance of Dennis's we all existed as members of LD through these wires so it was just very cool to come together in a great space, connect the names/faces/hearts/souls and do our art.
 
For me this meeting went a bit further in connecting, as I initially met Tim Nelson in my early days of My Space networking before I found my Chinapainting colleague and before discovering LD.  E conversations with Tim in the winter of 2006 led me to CT-Collective which led me to LD which led me to send an email to Daryl after reading his e article on analog tape looping and life in Mexico.  So yes the whole evening was like old home week, just a great time and it was so good to introduce Chinapainting to new turf in Massachusetts.  Little by little our journey goes...

So here's the link.  The format for the evening as I think Dennis mentioned earlier was our duo Chinapainting followed by a segue collab with Tim, then his set, collab with he and Dennis, then Dennis's set, collab with he and Rob, then Rob's set and finally an end of the night farewell with all five Knaves together.
 
 
This is the beginning of several audio/video postings from Daryl and mine's Chinapainting mini-tour that was part of his 2 month long west coast/east coast solo tour.  It's been a busy busy week at my day job this week and I just finally got through preparing this posting so look for others from our tour in the next couple of weeks.  We did Chinapainting shows on July 26 in Brooklyn, July 27 and 28 in NYC and the Nave in Somerville on Aug 2nd.  It was just a great week and our 3rd live get together of what was initially a "virtual" only band 2 years ago.  It was so great to get together live again for these shows and we're in the midst of planning a 4th CP mini-tour in California during October, so getting very jazzed about that.
 
So again to my fellow lists folks out east keep the energy rolling and let's do more collaborative events.
 
Best to all
 
Jim
 
--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_4279_8959749.1218169034254-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 04:47:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58DF33BFA4; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 04:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=MmaGMsxBCcZG0muOYIc721+WmuRkINnAP1srBpq/ICY=; b=PM9zmsjf6OzCYutiVCnF4AbxDWKBYYrAx0ARI20eq919ZvKg9g4+n5vbW2T9mLniPc +zhwYLcBltqvA1aKjCT5kx4oty/PmdyuVCqwe6b0FBkW4ndyBBfKokEVWMdIC1s36X3P DGsDlT7XScwr7LHRCILXporsVfcffGN/5qYoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=AyCzLAWZLoBBimrehRvsgA3aVV89j6h6N6Ku5c/HhMWZk7Vbk/L2g3KnM4gCefNy1k 5giGwavPY4aAwqEmT/cg3n/nlvlWnII/gnHTkDoxcIsF9mGg8sN879zSyTtZYauQ2En+ +QTI+AQvzEc4KKSuBC4pEmMiB+6WOuAv4ZP38= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808072147l4b9bef1je31ce99b80794996@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 00:47:30 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re the Chinapainting earlier posting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4438_15168459.1218170850729" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 04:47:33 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4438_15168459.1218170850729 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Not to overextend here but I meant to include the mention of our new CD in my previous post on the Chinapainting mini-tour and Nave concert set retrospective... What made this recent Chinapainting mini tour additionally great was that we announced the release of our new and 3rd CD, this one titled *Night Blooming Cereus *which was our first studio recording. Daryl and I did the initial sessions last July, spent several months over the winter/spring reviewing and culling down the 20 something improvisational settings to 10 and finally the released 8 we had professionally mastered. The artwork was created by long-time friend of Daryl's Douglas Witmer and just in time for our bringing Chinapainting live last week we rolled out Night Blooming Cereus. This recording is some of the finest work I've had the pleasure to be part of and am just very excited about putting it out there representing our duo. Samples and purchasing info are available at www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm. Best Jim -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_4438_15168459.1218170850729 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Not to overextend here but I meant to include the mention of our new CD in my previous post on the Chinapainting mini-tour and Nave concert set retrospective...
 
What made this recent Chinapainting mini tour additionally great was that we announced the release of our new and 3rd CD, this one titled Night Blooming Cereus which was our first studio recording.  Daryl and I did the initial sessions last July, spent several months over the winter/spring reviewing and culling down the 20 something improvisational settings to 10 and finally the released 8 we had professionally mastered.  The artwork was created by long-time friend of Daryl's Douglas Witmer and just in time for our bringing Chinapainting live last week we rolled out Night Blooming Cereus.  This recording is some of the finest work I've had the pleasure to be part of and am just very excited about putting it out there representing our duo.  Samples and purchasing info are available at www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm.
 
Best
 
Jim

--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_4438_15168459.1218170850729-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 04:53:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59C4B3BF33; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 04:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: Subject: RE:"Two fretless guitars and drum kit ensemble improv" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:53:26 -0700 Message-ID: <002901c8f912$b4d69b30$6c01a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj5EWaRWf9K+p1uS3e+8OcMKGqh2wAALC/A In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 04:53:31 +0000 (UTC) I prefer this to "two turntables and a microphone" . Ok Per, now I have to get a fretless guitar, hey who is that groovy drummer? I think I know that guy.. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 05:54:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80A5E3BF98; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 05:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <489BDFA8.60808@addcom.de> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:54:48 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? References: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010620r28de0635h6ca964d3fb6a4371@mail.gmail.com> <489310F8.1050000@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0808010704u6ac02b37q19ea90a7c49b5c67@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808010704u6ac02b37q19ea90a7c49b5c67@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 05:54:54 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe schrieb: > ys i saw the faderfox in action when Per was playing... Liked it, but IM > TALKING TINY!!!! Aint there anything REALLY SMALL?? Like matchbox small? > > How many times do we have to say it?? The behriger wins on Price yet again!! Tiny? its called Faderbaby. But I am hunting for a Cooper faderbaby since ages, out of production and nobody will sell it... I am considering to create my own with bluetooth conncetion and an arduino board... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 08:44:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9637D3BF9B; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+hkfGLNhF9Yn5pFwv1oxjAINli9fdupc5GntZHyPq+8=; b=Z1MQnyJH0TT97LJwN6kLmIopUh9jbu8EWngvbmp6q9dum1nwwK9NGjWT+j4S6JHKIY jY5Z85uOYMfydRRYlbZvoUCowRp9IxCZ0NHgzxYvMCfZ5kIIMBXUXgdIPKjMICrulLCQ EQc9aBzaQOOCctNF9uK368dx63ESU3cxRT3T0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=lLbe7Ro6+h5YDvP2Vm0MpfJ7jXbuXoU4RQpgRYM+KqtFlsK3SdK0xDPTtfWTlsECLr nJEl+P3kaI023ynrDA1z6Y/I699ImkHIpKjSzCeGa93AwYlbqPwFttuItji5u36jh64e Viyi49XTiP6WZaPLHUqGxBknL3tcYOqGQsoKc= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:44:51 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Hans Reichel In-Reply-To: <002e01c8f8e2$fa52d910$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48784_12019928.1218185091712" References: <002e01c8f8e2$fa52d910$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:44:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_48784_12019928.1218185091712 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline did the highscore right now !! funny !!! 2008/8/8 Michael Peters > if you have some time on your hands and a fast internet connection, check > out the www.daxo.de website of German avant guitarist Hans Reichel who > also > invented the daxophone instrument and earns his money as a font designer > ... > incredible and funny > > Michael www.michaelpeters.de > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_48784_12019928.1218185091712 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
did the highscore right now !! funny !!!

2008/8/8 Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
if you have some time on your hands and a fast internet connection, check
out the www.daxo.de website of German avant guitarist Hans Reichel who also
invented the daxophone instrument and earns his money as a font designer ...
incredible and funny

Michael www.michaelpeters.de




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------=_Part_48784_12019928.1218185091712-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 08:54:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D149C3BF9F; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ubTxWqW/MeRST4qyMiBdtSK5XpsU1dg47utZKGz943c=; b=t5aMe428GwWZ60Lx7Rf9YYu/08/GhiBVIgFdXQZ3ycrgreAOW2tki271g+MRv+Kqbx ZnOs3A4DTDPcdOiM42gaIdiTGOE7c1Jg+WPfTAMbFEcWtx42/uovLhg6hjJ/J6f17e22 VTRxd+DxbpUl4Yr2LcmUcuWLxeuo2wBozSQ3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Gb3uM25NwUjrcoorxwRlaW5XasosJtljMzEg1gmlFll8pVLIrf0ExWy4pSVLJ6xN06 ZDegaUiM3kSuP7JIDO1cY2s9UaMQ6T4rDBFqC21rz9SgvJ0TsFH8X0rgq6KDzrayvE8c 7rSX1+Uh5r7sE1GtqmR6YkxIy67Y2m6eBj7mQ= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:54:35 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New software looper In-Reply-To: <42DB7C087AED4C3690A3E55102396F8A@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48854_21549989.1218185675479" References: <586D4E6FFC364B4291DF500C97FF8AF4@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9C9D5ED6-84EE-4E6B-A290-AC9477F08D82@comcast.net> <42DB7C087AED4C3690A3E55102396F8A@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:54:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_48854_21549989.1218185675479 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks mark for posting the link!fabulous... raul. 2008/8/8 Krispen Hartung > That's right. Aren't you a memeber of the Pave the Earth Society yet? > Let's get it over with. Let the street sweepers rule. > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Yeah, fuck trees! >> On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >> Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I have to >>> check this out. I think it was designed by tree huggers, though. :) >>> >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> Looks interesting- >>>> >>>> http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php >>>> >>>> The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it depends >>>> how well that works for "live" looping needs. >>>> >>>> Best- >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>> >>> >> > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_48854_21549989.1218185675479 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
thanks mark for posting the link!
fabulous... 

raul.

2008/8/8 Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>
That's right. Aren't you a memeber of the Pave the Earth Society yet?  Let's get it over with. Let the street sweepers rule.

Kris


----- Original Message -----

Yeah, fuck trees!
On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh!  I  have to check this out.  I think it was designed by tree huggers,  though. :)


Kris

----- Original Message -----

Looks interesting-

http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php

The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it  depends how well that works for "live" looping needs.

Best-

Mark






--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_48854_21549989.1218185675479-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 10:29:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 239BF3BF97; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00b201c8f941$90e0c820$0301a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <586D4E6FFC364B4291DF500C97FF8AF4@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9C9D5ED6-84EE-4E6B-A290-AC9477F08D82@comcast.net> Subject: Re: New software looper Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:28:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <-wxazC.A.XnB.t_BnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:29:02 +0000 (UTC) I had to laugh at the screen shot showing a really complex set of controls that look like one got the entirety of controls present in FL Studio for instance and blammed them all on one dialog box. Accompanied by the text "Simple is beautiful": well, maybe the semi-oriental artwork used for the backgrounds of the windows... The text reads like a PR announcement from a software company marketing exec who's possibly never used the software himself... But when I have a few minutes I'll have a look. From: "Chris Sewell" > > Yeah, fuck trees! > On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I have to >> check this out. I think it was designed by tree huggers, though. :) >> >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> Looks interesting- >>> >>> http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php >>> >>> The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it depends >>> how well that works for "live" looping needs. >>> >>> Best- >>> >>> Mark >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 10:46:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F4333BF97; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:46:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=d4Q6x5gyVO57yRGmt7cA:9 a=lux5WPcGKnQy2Ugru0CJvK-4W8wA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=zXqarhjDHdnMHA92-NMA:9 a=LxEaaQ_VkId2LHLsS_8A:7 a=GufCUp1R1uH2U6mz4V-6PU0q4yMA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--632972514 Message-Id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Computer Music Special 23 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 06:46:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:46:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--632972514 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I have it, do you want the hard copy? On Aug 7, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Huh? Cripes. :( > > Well, can somone scan the VST section and send it to me? I'll send > you my latest CD in return. > > Kris > > **** > Dear Mr Hartung > > Thank you for your request dated 31/7/08 for a copy of the above > publication. I regret to inform you that no longer have any stock > of this issue and are therefore unable to process your request. > > I can confirm that your Visa card has not been charged. > > please accept my apologies for any disappointment caused. > > kind regards > > > > Helen Crooks > Data Entry Team Leader > > --Apple-Mail-1--632972514 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have it, do you want the hard copy?
On Aug 7, 2008, at = 5:01 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

Huh?=A0 Cripes.=A0 :(=A0=A0
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Well, can somone scan the VST section and send it to me? I'll = send you my latest CD in return.
=A0
Kris
=A0
****
Dear Mr = Hartung
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Thank you = for your request dated 31/7/08 for a copy of the above publication.=A0 I = regret to inform you that no longer have any stock of this issue and are = therefore unable to process your request.
=A0
I can = confirm that your Visa card has not been = charged.
=A0
please = accept my apologies for any disappointment = caused.
=A0
kind = regards
=A0
=A0
=A0
Helen = Crooks
Data Entry Team = Leader

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= --Apple-Mail-1--632972514-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 12:19:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD1483BF85; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=DptDPNQtUsDMWNqqHyHF6qeTD3KhJy7NKUggs/u4bRs=; b=S/8rAiHgfKglfUhnE84k6deG2sF/W3kn6pwOw/WrCqbuE6Tmu5zf9i2I4vUob2Q9VV zRTfidce68k4i90tMWs++Nq3Wu5LdIr7LkGHrCKUfbBUTaYy/fYkWkDXNT9+vrH8YYg6 H/CeNCUcx9WHr0Wl74y6rouaqTTDEMUdKwXTM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=TbSDQe0Viu0D/LESLJb770R5lHoDiY/Aga3KcbmlYjK3XauWOLifHftEeUcbah0UQV 5soc8VhprArHRd9GcTwjwg5y3WdS0ZHyH8QbllpwucM8mlALf5CeFUW+PA/BpumV/ML/ FWpXGAARZPkxOXdHM4wIzbsXAXElYWb8P8CMw= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:19:07 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New software looper In-Reply-To: <00b201c8f941$90e0c820$0301a8c0@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_50591_26284991.1218197947966" References: <586D4E6FFC364B4291DF500C97FF8AF4@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9C9D5ED6-84EE-4E6B-A290-AC9477F08D82@comcast.net> <00b201c8f941$90e0c820$0301a8c0@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: <3q1RAB.A.FkC.8mDnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:19:08 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_50591_26284991.1218197947966 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline not working the windows version here.which extras it's suposed i have had to install priorly? a javascript console? others?... i'll re-check the site seeking info. about raul. 2008/8/8 Stephen Goodman > I had to laugh at the screen shot showing a really complex set of controls > that look like one got the entirety of controls present in FL Studio for > instance and blammed them all on one dialog box. Accompanied by the text > "Simple is beautiful": well, maybe the semi-oriental artwork used for the > backgrounds of the windows... The text reads like a PR announcement from a > software company marketing exec who's possibly never used the software > himself... But when I have a few minutes I'll have a look. > > > From: "Chris Sewell" > > >> Yeah, fuck trees! >> On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >> Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I have to >>> check this out. I think it was designed by tree huggers, though. :) >>> >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> Looks interesting- >>>> >>>> http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php >>>> >>>> The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it depends >>>> how well that works for "live" looping needs. >>>> >>>> Best- >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_50591_26284991.1218197947966 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
not working the windows version here.
which extras it's suposed i have had to install priorly?
a javascript console? others?...

i'll re-check the site seeking info. about

raul. 

2008/8/8 Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
I had to laugh at the screen shot showing a really complex set of controls that look like one got the entirety of controls present in FL Studio for instance and blammed them all on one dialog box.  Accompanied by the text "Simple is beautiful": well, maybe the semi-oriental artwork used for the backgrounds of the windows... The text reads like a PR announcement from a software company marketing exec who's possibly never used the software himself... But when I have a few minutes I'll have a look.


From: "Chris Sewell" <midifriedchicken@comcast.net>


Yeah, fuck trees!
On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh!  I  have to check this out.  I think it was designed by tree huggers,  though. :)


Kris

----- Original Message -----

Looks interesting-

http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php

The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it  depends how well that works for "live" looping needs.

Best-

Mark










--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_50591_26284991.1218197947966-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 12:42:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC03A3BF81; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=R8Qml484IqpSuimmgQJxGPHsxWvsMJ4zjFW76Jg8lL0=; b=eHUgNXyoZlX21fVpSgb+0tJYsJH+aOSipUL/TcBtyWWSEiyWKOHPf3vd+sHRg80hN2 57d8rf+y0C5Cpw4n4u4UTQwEWqsTnmJJhqCyhp5U6ZxohbAhyuZgUlFwuyYyW1xaA9lb 2zvLL7zaMQW9iGnSiPBl47AGOfZY5DwIklaM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=NeCyfDeaqv/HmReooYaoJazIpeECjAFkz8B+PcfK5dMLX2LnzVTrcQUE3Rox2u4gzs CvAGisjU/CfD0IWXOfemY6YkbefFwK9WEQCKEyaemzJ63tTinRw8oJLyVZidkOTi5W/l tJtrpn68RucIoefHNBLiLpjde8BRIs0D6z0FE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:42:15 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New software looper In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24136_28633422.1218199335123" References: <586D4E6FFC364B4291DF500C97FF8AF4@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9C9D5ED6-84EE-4E6B-A290-AC9477F08D82@comcast.net> <00b201c8f941$90e0c820$0301a8c0@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: <_YDFRC.A.WMD.o8DnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:42:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_24136_28633422.1218199335123 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline And not working here on G5/10.5.4, either ... no joys ... crash on launch. Dennis On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > not working the windows version here.which extras it's suposed i have had > to install priorly? > a javascript console? others?... > > i'll re-check the site seeking info. about > > raul. > > 2008/8/8 Stephen Goodman > > I had to laugh at the screen shot showing a really complex set of controls >> that look like one got the entirety of controls present in FL Studio for >> instance and blammed them all on one dialog box. Accompanied by the text >> "Simple is beautiful": well, maybe the semi-oriental artwork used for the >> backgrounds of the windows... The text reads like a PR announcement from a >> software company marketing exec who's possibly never used the software >> himself... But when I have a few minutes I'll have a look. >> >> >> From: "Chris Sewell" >> >> >>> Yeah, fuck trees! >>> On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >>> >>> Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I have >>>> to check this out. I think it was designed by tree huggers, though. :) >>>> >>>> >>>> Kris >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> Looks interesting- >>>>> >>>>> http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php >>>>> >>>>> The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it depends >>>>> how well that works for "live" looping needs. >>>>> >>>>> Best- >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > ------=_Part_24136_28633422.1218199335123 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
And not working here on G5/10.5.4, either ... no joys ... crash on launch.

Dennis

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
not working the windows version here.
which extras it's suposed i have had to install priorly?
a javascript console? others?...

i'll re-check the site seeking info. about

raul. 

2008/8/8 Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>

I had to laugh at the screen shot showing a really complex set of controls that look like one got the entirety of controls present in FL Studio for instance and blammed them all on one dialog box.  Accompanied by the text "Simple is beautiful": well, maybe the semi-oriental artwork used for the backgrounds of the windows... The text reads like a PR announcement from a software company marketing exec who's possibly never used the software himself... But when I have a few minutes I'll have a look.


From: "Chris Sewell" <midifriedchicken@comcast.net>


Yeah, fuck trees!
On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh!  I  have to check this out.  I think it was designed by tree huggers,  though. :)


Kris

----- Original Message -----

Looks interesting-

http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php

The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it  depends how well that works for "live" looping needs.

Best-

Mark










--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com

------=_Part_24136_28633422.1218199335123-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 12:45:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20BC53BF84; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=pR3RxEzo8KJWh26QvQg84EGOnWCTvmYaHk/mNfQQDbw=; b=WUTW09CgvCoijeNH6qi6eASJcMnFBa5iNAmBRTHN4ljh0nI678SkBykoUmGBlQ1TU+ r067xoYZWvM2VKMvWF2UuJPTCBnXlxvKoz6g+ugBJGsgTm9CfbvJBLoH3KNldVTPIgqv arl2uLI87fZBOaDc/ZEfjFbGG5uus/zjZdbEY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=oBF5netqx/QtGPTmz/eBN6LXb9PYJ6TY03AuINgIC2jzocq6fukZ1BNRmnGT+ok2Z5 Hcq5SRlNCV01OMLlpVeZcJQOFVNHCBzmdgWQm5sw30+o/gjADws+qYiLkscRWexJn5si d53zeU1pmX3MYHV1GvDjaVoiwlOslUhlBIgJc= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:45:54 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: loopers-delight Subject: On Notation ... further thoughts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24166_7368651.1218199554871" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:45:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_24166_7368651.1218199554871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://www.jozefvanwissem.com/ ...scroll down to the section, "Keep Taking The Tablutures - Jozef van Wissem". Tablature is yet another notation system and defies the already-described phenom of "reading the score and 'hearing' the sounds" ... Best to all and hope you are all sampling the fruits of our (Chinapainting, Tim Nelson, myself, and Rob Byrd) labors last Saturday night (thanks, JIm, for posting yours and TIm's bits up!). Dennis ------=_Part_24166_7368651.1218199554871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
http://www.jozefvanwissem.com/

...scroll down to the section, "Keep Taking The Tablutures - Jozef van Wissem".

Tablature is yet another notation system and defies the already-described phenom of "reading the score and 'hearing' the sounds" ...

Best to all and hope you are all sampling the fruits of our (Chinapainting, Tim Nelson, myself, and Rob Byrd) labors last Saturday night (thanks, JIm, for posting yours and TIm's bits up!).

Dennis
------=_Part_24166_7368651.1218199554871-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 13:12:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 441893BF88; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rn1aVZWiBXWkbBLSbaTUSXME1mPcRWIVdhrgdisnfW4=; b=Tk+wFSqhEd9sN/Vy34LtoSLrXp/zbKxz3wc7bDYtdCnurziugy3G9ElMzat3v9vhNq FOz1gIfIGmuiO0oeb/kcO0M1HCIo0itpuIjANnL1liX0DKmNFYXxK236odGyvIEWqtLH U+XneJMcz2f56leJxSPkt4izZ+xZcaj0jaTIw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=MlQhziSNRYiJ92NjyWQ0v86OrQ9+otDmyWW8u0x95K/g0Pu47pbLcVL98rmQSt7/8b ZnUzWTkrA9h1Y5vrSHNWhat7lAiXHgYVKIIw6BQrPHVFP5urb5XGYqk7u8O2YRcbrkdv QXzrVESLMn7nADjRcjcA/pkesTc7qymHbFcg8= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808080612v6750b76djc20acabaefb67706@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:12:39 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New software looper In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <586D4E6FFC364B4291DF500C97FF8AF4@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9C9D5ED6-84EE-4E6B-A290-AC9477F08D82@comcast.net> <00b201c8f941$90e0c820$0301a8c0@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: <3MsTcB.A.IDE.JZEnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:12:41 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > not working the windows version here. > which extras it's suposed i have had to install priorly? > a javascript console? others?... > i'll re-check the site seeking info. about > raul. Maybe you need something from Cycling74 since it is a Max build? Over here I can open the looper fine in OS X - I guess that is because I'm a Pluggo user (since Pluggo is also a Max build I already haver the Pluggo Runtime Enabler on my drive) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 13:18:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31BAB3BF86; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=u2zbJ4I02Gazyp3+b/FBuuAt/v+Eki1/3qiF6KARbz8=; b=rt0/NVa0uOvG4zA2ntQyQP5Etf8qMJcJrNQtp9nSddtV6zbCLie/gHohwoX+NTdNoO I6MoTgP9OM7qagB2qOqRjtzBtrTAM/kQnZar7x7XRY8FNe+AeVz1QcvBaWCPL246UD7W hYPiJjMqD0bJaEZW+r3QBqTKUO6uLWJdStWrE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ir4gpl1JWRQ2b9ycdOXtnZN8Kk2o0wH5jTacLkhE0HoNe5o47sMRzjk3pNUFp8DpKG kp0ekOm2zu2PyvlR94kJo5Z/0GzvRshLSoXU5671DEkGI/IzosJkuwnn9rwCerGGJ43V g1sj/fb3K/sMI04SjhIcaG/RL737oDTmqugnE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808080618x70dede5as5ff2241b6479e1be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:18:10 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Plug-ins, effects - what's in your basic tool box? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Hi, >From reading he list I'm under the impression that many members are looking for some special effects, since there is such a big interest in free VSTs? I'd like to suggest that we discuss what we have in our tool boxes! Plug-ins, stomp boxes or rack devises - it's all the same musical functions that you may chain together in different combinations. Here's what I use: - Parametric Equalizer, - Compressor, - Reverb, - Delay, - Harmonizer, - Distortion, - Filterbank, - Ring Modulation, - Noise Gate. With these nine units I am fully confident that I can patch up all the sounds I will every want to play with. When it comes to a plug-in host application I favor those with an open patching environment. I like my laptop to be just as simple as the classic studio environment: (1) Audio Source Input, (2) Mixing Console with signal routing capabilities and (3) Effect Rack. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 13:30:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B7BE3BF8C; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=l6Gqw0JDApDZZ762TTnrhENlAvkINbfnMoma67wAqhs=; b=D4t1NoF/SqrXRmKbw4Hym3jCjSlK1CpbrARY7J2hp1WwyCQyOONvGOxkOgIemlEo0d piKmn03uDzZrdp6rDQ7HT95i6QvW0AS+NYIc66uvZQ88Ezo0BjwvIP5WI7dLbkGFUd3S ZaLpzySumlxacJg+M6mcyPtGUM//nJBk0ndHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=wnfGf2kfDYCb2yLri4gDz8NB15swos2Xhtwtgce9/h9jCgFXZw7N/rBt3wNG+x6s7N YwPpajnKSRQ6kLm14MMDdimkCKswH6dyWCFKNB98lkRoHUMrj4bvk1CvQwduXvhOf8aF 1mHXQ4wOd8HuO4ZtIWM/Eu4dI2ZgVJdkJ8sY0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:30:26 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Hans Reichel In-Reply-To: <002e01c8f8e2$fa52d910$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22742_5759207.1218202226874" References: <002e01c8f8e2$fa52d910$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:30:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_22742_5759207.1218202226874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That's really cool! On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > if you have some time on your hands and a fast internet connection, check > out the www.daxo.de website of German avant guitarist Hans Reichel who > also > invented the daxophone instrument and earns his money as a font designer > ... > incredible and funny > > Michael www.michaelpeters.de > > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_22742_5759207.1218202226874 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
That's really cool! 

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
if you have some time on your hands and a fast internet connection, check
out the www.daxo.de website of German avant guitarist Hans Reichel who also
invented the daxophone instrument and earns his money as a font designer ...
incredible and funny

Michael www.michaelpeters.de




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Tony
------=_Part_22742_5759207.1218202226874-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 13:56:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90ED93BF8E; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218203765; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=AH7FK3gvRskUzqewKV8Oudpo9F0=; b=AZFJqDKGRjELOAPX0GHGAyyoupqz53E227OcsD+pPuyfNNlMY25Js1ZM1rNpw9p2 2i/5LTtlAad3gWEmOF9tYKWFBkwU0PLNR5psQbfyCX2eAq85xqFr6UDATk6ecIfa; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=deKM-WJZAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=aHW3VOVJ7CiAMxwhBZAA:9 a=QLQ0NQ-MeomvzsMYAwAA:7 a=E7Jq9n-tw98lW36UR4J1x0Lx7TYA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=hVsco9iVOKcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002101c8f966$dd39c3f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <586D4E6FFC364B4291DF500C97FF8AF4@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9C9D5ED6-84EE-4E6B-A290-AC9477F08D82@comcast.net> <00b201c8f941$90e0c820$0301a8c0@eluk1> <66f9cc1e0808080612v6750b76djc20acabaefb67706@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New software looper Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:55:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Runs fine on my pc, no sound yet though, I never have figured out these new fangled software thingies, it recognizes my sound card and all, I'll mess with it some more. Meanwhile back to my DD-20, DL 4, 2880 combo. peace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:12 AM Subject: Re: New software looper > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> not working the windows version here. >> which extras it's suposed i have had to install priorly? >> a javascript console? others?... >> i'll re-check the site seeking info. about >> raul. > > > Maybe you need something from Cycling74 since it is a Max build? Over > here I can open the looper fine in OS X - I guess that is because I'm > a Pluggo user (since Pluggo is also a Max build I already haver the > Pluggo Runtime Enabler on my drive) > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: 8/8/2008 > 9:02 AM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 16:14:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C3FC3BF6C; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 66747138/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcCALgMnEg+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAIrFE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,328,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="66747138" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:14:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: new track Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <489C7ED8.5824.1A88A5F@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:14:05 +0000 (UTC) I've just completed another chain-tape collective project, entitled "Zodiac". There's plenty of looping on several tracks, including (of course) my own! Please leave comments, if you have time! I've also got tracks on the birds, birds and men, great speeches and acoustic 2 projects http://ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=37 From dkelsey@vrstrt.com Fri Aug 8 17:25:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail.vrstrt.com (mail.vrstrt.com [64.187.124.204]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CC53BF75 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.vrstrt.com Postfix Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:24:50 -0400 From: "Daniel Kelsey" Subject: Up 30% this month, KBLB ready to Explode To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline KBLB remains my #1 pick. It's time to BUY KBLB don't wait another moment. KBLB is up 30% this week. Refer to the chart: http://vrstrt.com/c/tgwg1szx0cG2s616hFG_hQ.html?5#chart1:symbol=kblb.ob;range=5d;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined I picked AMZN to go from $38.00 to $100.00, it DID I picked SPWR at $60.00 to go to $150.00, it didn?t. It went to $165.00 And many more. Register at www.spartanstocks.com to see my next pick. The reason I have one of the better track records, if not the best, is the same reason that I started this letter by addressing you as a "Fellow Investor." You see, most of the companies I feature are companies that I personally make a significant investment in, both Time and Money. I typically work with these companies and I know the key players involved in these projects. My goal is to make sure they are well funded and that they have an attractive Public Relations/Investor Relations program, so the company can continually add value for all of its shareholders. 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To remove yourself from this list, click here http://vrstrt.com/u/tgwg1szx0cG2s616hFG_hQ.html or write to us at: 25399 The Old Road, Unit 13507 Stevenson Ranch, CA 91381 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 17:28:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA6163BF7A; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 55277579 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: whats the smallest midi controller??? Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:28:23 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA110C1C6@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <489BDFA8.60808@addcom.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: whats the smallest midi controller??? Thread-Index: Acj5fCiy/bHWrIkcQFyl+6+KFdtXaw== References: <489BDFA8.60808@addcom.de> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2008 17:28:23.0669 (UTC) FILETIME=[28D9EA50:01C8F97C] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:28:25 +0000 (UTC) >>Tiny? its called Faderbaby. But I am hunting for a Cooper faderbaby since ages, out of production and nobody will sell it...<< I met jim cooper at a trade-show a couple of years ago. he'll likely be at the same show when I go again in a month- I'll ask him. I have a couple of the behringer bcn-44 "nano-controllers" with the four rotary/push controllers & four buttons. they are excellent value, & can be programmed by their own front panels & simple display, but I found the cases to be unnecessarily bulky & rather unattractive.=20 my preference is for my three doepfer pocket controllers (they also used to make rotary encoder & fader versions, mine have normal pots) which are like baby versions of the doepfer drehbank. no switches, but. =20 they have 16 knobs each, & 127 presets stored on-board. you use a PC to set them up, but once you have your presets built & loaded, you can change which one is active by the DIL switches on the back or by midi PC. they "through" midi, so that can sit in-line after a keyboard or w.h.y. & be daisychained into each other. I phantom-power mine using the spare ways of the midi cable & a REGULATED supply. (a normal wall-wart kicks out too much hum & messes up the midi data). they can send snapshots too. doepfer (for whom I do not work!) also make these semi-kit things that one can attach one's own interfacing to, so that a simple volume pedal can be converted to spit out midi. d. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and=20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 18:27:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAF283BF76; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=YXOcK6lsVyub2IddGTUHe3ZeQziB10pUN4qUtWjhjVc=; b=NBUkUuZbbQQQn8gSXY0JITzoJLeoyoqXWPeqKNda1syY0tQCLH93P6EvKw/qsp3UZi wwdAIwUste5xAi9UtikC/76fKcINQTOcaaGNnXzJL7ecu9EinBxAYyVSGJ4J1lO33XAI NlH6rhELBgFfQlfbfwkV3cy6Ew/h4Doju5qtQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=sP8mlPDF1wMOVZXpnZQOW5/fA9/0N5yEQ8giLkGS50abHxR+2CcZwRN76V9RS2jwcu 3pbDND3eWw0IOuUnTYKjZppy3/dvH5UOp9Oou+DegCqdta4HR9u0tf8YQU87ogd2EzaQ ucxXaFvBOBvm9oYv5p8vFKAtMnVSz58RJCke4= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:27:10 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: loopers-delight Subject: [GIG SPAM] Live web radio TONIGHT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27493_2766888.1218220030088" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:27:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_27493_2766888.1218220030088 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tonight I have the pleasure of doing a live performance on Ambitar Radio, over on http://stillstream. com... the show gets under way at 22:00 US CDT, that's UTC-5 ... I'll be playing the 2nd hour, a few more details here: http://www. stillstream. com/schedule. php?lh=7 Stop by, listen, maybe join the Chat ... I'll try to be there, too, while I"m playing. Dennis ------=_Part_27493_2766888.1218220030088 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Tonight I have the pleasure of doing a live performance on Ambitar Radio, over on http://stillstream. com ... the show gets under way at 22:00 US CDT, that's UTC-5 ... I'll be playing the 2nd hour, a few more details here:

http://www. stillstream. com/schedule. php?lh=7

Stop by, listen, maybe join the Chat ... I'll try to be there, too, while I"m playing.

Dennis
------=_Part_27493_2766888.1218220030088-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 19:36:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 749CD3BF78; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SRryOfq3T7UA:10 a=8arrEOUmA_sA:10 a=gT_mXgRlzPBtkxKys08A:9 a=UdvngAqmBXYMayA_WPoyBgq9xnIA:4 a=by2dKgXnggYA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <85E9AFDE-F3C0-4D79-A6F5-B3152D3DEFC7@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: GIG SPAM: tonight in SF, looping at "low bows" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:36:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:36:39 +0000 (UTC) hey loopers, i've had a nutty few days. since tuesday i've played looped cello for execs of the gap, for a creativity seminar, and for mark isham on his score for the "secret life of bees". this evening i'm performing as part of "low bows" a concert presented by Pamela Z at the Royce Gallery. there are 3 cellists and 1 contrabassist! lotsa lows... Friday, 08/08/08 at 8pm Low Bows presented by Pamela Z Zoe Keating (cello & electronics) Alex Kelly (cello & electronics) Damon Smith (cello & electronics) Merlin Coleman (cello & voice) (four solos, and Pamela Z joins for an ensemble finale) THE ROYCE GALLERY 2901 Mariposa Street (between Harrison & Alabama) San Francisco $10 thanks very much....loop on, zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 20:14:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BA313BF72; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3373 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:14:01 UTC Message-ID: <20080808143226.BVU17.20349.root@mp19> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:32:26 -0400 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [GIG SPAM] Live web radio TONIGHT Cc: Dennis Moser In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:14:02 +0000 (UTC) link brings up a 'disabled linkt' on myspace?? ---- Dennis Moser wrote: > Tonight I have the pleasure of doing a live performance on Ambitar Radio, > over on http://stillstream. > com... the > show gets under way at 22:00 US CDT, that's UTC-5 ... I'll be > playing the 2nd hour, a few more details here: > > http://www. stillstream. com/schedule. > php?lh=7 > > Stop by, listen, maybe join the Chat ... I'll try to be there, too, while > I"m playing. > > Dennis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 20:14:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5840B3BF29; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jxfiL532iM7/uX1x2ndIeNOCQ/2OhrFPs5U0N2UAwC0=; b=x2pdsb0XG53H53trSssnCr8fQnhb2n0OqLqGy0DdMzabkpDCFEMOLTAO/nL7APin7/ UuoHIEepSWCwjue54+UrV9Nlc2v6dud3NlCo4ghIuYy4gZKICc7FME0wztvxrqvRxxaJ rCa5rfEovh6OqjJC8Q1DrKKLnrSAJi8ZUGIvc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ua6us14CEiKLq/Ozjo+C7laG0rGlQGKSzM8UZ6I3kLqjHP4fF5+wRMXpi2HqKzldL2 mm4iFnOFza+cssn8mceacUiA8iEIliGg/XhlCezZlSIc8JhdtyJcdUf+kVQMI1KiKndO WDjr5paHsvpXhNVSeX6sDsgSEBgwtYZTd1J5I= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:14:29 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MacBook In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:14:31 +0000 (UTC) The AudioFire card arrived today, and I hooked it up to the MacBook. SMOKING! Wow, this is fast. This is the first time I've had a computer setup where the latency wasn't annoying. It's fast even inside Ableton. Thanks for the suggestions! -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 20:23:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45F903BF5E; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=6PxVZrLGhtbvJTpzf6omi2bhTGESl8160t1WFf1y7Wx2sAwPucyam4j8qr9eU327wHG9jsG6juHGiV0j/B1fT1oF4V3qyQZQWMrl9tkkGYDr/ljHtWO6Zq9gbvk2qycnpZUOm4BaQQ5PmBTHy81VGorK161PezHGyXqzEG/ExQA=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:23:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <241828.26885.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:23:17 +0000 (UTC) here is another alternative view of this subject a bit more real though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwwMF6biCJU > From: Mark Smart > Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: > > There is a lot of fast editing of news reports and > interviews without > any indication of the context. Yeah, the planes caused > EXPLOSIONS when > they hit the buildings. The way it's presented implies > they are all > talking about intentional demolition of the buildings by > the CIA or > whatever. Jeez. I've only watched the first couple of > minutes! > > An alternative view: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 20:24:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D897D3BF50; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 663 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:24:48 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YFxqCfn9QTjM8v7Q3gKMKuqqji4baNNnW/+EhOKiO/e1/w4LqGWwdgoicPkgxMyy; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <8273368.1218226422926.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:13:42 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GIG SPAM: tonight in SF, looping at Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4810fb729474d757438775668ff2ebaefaa8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.52 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:24:48 +0000 (UTC) lotsa lows... this is where i live! i will try to be there. s From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 20:35:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 247BD3BF72; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:35:12 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: [GIG SPAM] Live web radio TONIGHT In-reply-to: <26866755.1218226589540.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <489CAE00.2000205@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <26866755.1218226589540.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: <9sg6_C.A.nqC.P4KnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Go to: http://stillstream.com http://stillstream.com/schedule.php?lh=7 http://ambitarradio.com That oughtta work! Cheers, Bill thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > link brings up a 'disabled linkt' on myspace?? > ---- Dennis Moser wrote: > >> Tonight I have the pleasure of doing a live performance on Ambitar Radio, >> over on http://stillstream. >> com... the >> show gets under way at 22:00 US CDT, that's UTC-5 ... I'll be >> playing the 2nd hour, a few more details here: >> http://www. stillstream. com/schedule. >> php?lh=7 >> Stop by, listen, maybe join the Chat ... I'll try to be there, too, while >> I"m playing. >> Dennis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 21:12:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87E033BF6C; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:12:22 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #592 for August 7, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <489CB6B6.5010505@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:12:38 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080807.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #592 August 7, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Frank Van Bogaert. The Featured CD at Midnight was Docking on Groove Unlimited. Frank Van Bogaert: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#aug PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Ozone Player Extrasensory Orange Apples (Visual Power) Deprivation Fringe Element electro-music 2006 Visceral Extrusion (none) Mystified Low Key Phenomenae Skywatchers (Small Doses) Rainbow Serpent Tangram Live @ Liphook 2007 (Manikin) VA [Patchwork] Connect Bonus Track Musiczeit Sampler 03 Steve Roach Arc of Passion 2 * Arc of Passion (Projekt) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Frank Van Bogaert Docking Docking (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert The Drift Docking (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Home By the Sea Docking (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert A State of Mind Docking (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Where the Stars Docking (Groove) Shine Bright Frank Van Bogaert Guitars Docking (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Churches Docking (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Hymn Docking (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Landfall Docking (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Beauty Docking (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Epilogue Docking (Groove) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Frank Van Bogaert. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Human on Groove Unlimited. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy.asx http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy2.ram To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 21:38:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A162C3BF6A; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=m3ODedTDZXNKdNUF3qAyKeW0mL1TV6oK8URCBg2M4b8=; b=aHRjDpcSoyoQqfzVUX0iOzxnGPds9AVMLhJfVowJA/XiFBQY4X9Zjm2bZQICX5mJCY a+EhgeUuo47yIXz8EdXghTyRZSP49zBBADUKPfNopRD8nPE7w/71q8HtKAHfv16pA1x2 847jLPdy7YdXzxMffjbi1GZgrAvNHnPYb97f4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=D5oEuE43+PYYaevoipWzdSNUU+MaqGfYr2EJ43KSqh5EOwCMU5MzsqHTWFWlE7q6Se sfv/zMevnLaqT4WWcXc35Pvtt9PNj8ChHAZXkiTO7C1pnaod/N+lO7D9PI9esbbzM/Vr kaGhZBiaGJAst0TuKbxpvP6ZXwb/IImZdbrHc= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:38:14 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [GIG SPAM] Live web radio TONIGHT In-Reply-To: <489CAE00.2000205@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29236_9801774.1218231494273" References: <26866755.1218226589540.JavaMail.root@m05> <489CAE00.2000205@soundscapes.us> Resent-Message-ID: <5TvrDC.A.g3E.IzLnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:38:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_29236_9801774.1218231494273 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks, Bill, but I think they were trying to reach my MySpace page? I'm not sure why those links are showing up as obfuscated MySpace links in the first place ... although you should still be able to get there using cut and paste. Of course, all bets are off if we lose power again like we just did earlier! Dennis On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > Go to: > http://stillstream.com > http://stillstream.com/schedule.php?lh=7 > http://ambitarradio.com > That oughtta work! > > Cheers, > > Bill > > > thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > >> link brings up a 'disabled linkt' on myspace?? >> ---- Dennis Moser wrote: >> >>> Tonight I have the pleasure of doing a live performance on Ambitar Radio, >>> over on http://stillstream. >>> com... the >>> show gets under way at 22:00 US CDT, that's UTC-5 ... I'll be >>> playing the 2nd hour, a few more details here: >>> http://www. stillstream. com/schedule. >>> php?lh=7< >>> http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnN0aWxsc3RyZWFtLmNvbS9zY2hlZHVsZS5waHA/bGg9Nw== >>> > >>> Stop by, listen, maybe join the Chat ... I'll try to be there, too, while >>> I"m playing. >>> Dennis >>> >> > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_29236_9801774.1218231494273 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Thanks, Bill, but I think they were trying to reach my MySpace page?

I'm not sure why those links are showing up as obfuscated MySpace links in the first place ... although you should still be able to get there using cut and paste.

Of course, all bets are off if we lose power again like we just did earlier!

Dennis

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:
Go to:
http://stillstream.com
http://stillstream.com/schedule.php?lh=7
http://ambitarradio.com
That oughtta work!

Cheers,

Bill


thetoyroom@charter.net wrote:
link brings up a 'disabled linkt' on myspace??
---- Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:  
Tonight I have the pleasure of doing a live performance on Ambitar Radio,
over on http://stillstream.
com<http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vc3RpbGxzdHJlYW0uY29t>... the
show gets under way at 22:00 US CDT, that's UTC-5 ... I'll be
playing the 2nd hour, a few more details here:
http://www. stillstream. com/schedule.
php?lh=7<http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnN0aWxsc3RyZWFtLmNvbS9zY2hlZHVsZS5waHA/bGg9Nw==>
Stop by, listen, maybe join the Chat ... I'll try to be there, too, while
I"m playing.
Dennis




--
http://myspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 22:00:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9B9D3BF6B; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=waFDU24kU4ZyfpkqwMcbOe49BCx1yd/qaA6B4gCmEgY=; b=E0LDFKIAltoqjEq84WukiLt2dCwpafmOm0sq9CsChmz7T410LXueSr+3c9AAOovdcI Ja+WNLqL+aNy/NilEX/Fia8MQ2ZgQpLJ7jYylbwMwhoIg8ksulL7IeqtrXmRADpgRFT8 TeWhA7q3UWSOh1QOBaRdexan5Zj1j2FLf/D7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=LAluq5Yj9ctqLCeabhTrWQ7kYEpP9f8k60jMLqaGMNFM3ovckkaGAR87Qe5RO1BNvX 1fPMwnCx2fwrJ2JUotbzZe9PDkTrwxcxfEa+pv0BMsCR1iT+cFSlqx45o9homtpHFlzI NNILvd8T6ULtB7WGMCJ7HNvzp+ZIgSEFeqsrU= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:00:27 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [GIG SPAM] Live web radio TONIGHT In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808081443y1513ec36t298337ce4cef4021@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29417_25920766.1218232827903" References: <26866755.1218226589540.JavaMail.root@m05> <489CAE00.2000205@soundscapes.us> <66f9cc1e0808081443y1513ec36t298337ce4cef4021@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_29417_25920766.1218232827903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Per, They do archive the broadcasts ... I also record all of my performances ... it WILL be available in one way or another after the performance. With any luck, I'll just dump the .wav over to my server and let it run; otherwise it may take me a day or so to get it online somewhere (most likely here: http://72.85.228.116/audio ) BTW, I just did the maths, too, and I should be starting around 6:00 AM your time ... great way to start your day! LOL ... Dennis On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I just did the maths here and realized this is going to happen around > 3AM my local time. Is StillStream doing archived repeats? > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_29417_25920766.1218232827903 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Per,

They do archive the broadcasts ... I also record all of my performances ... it WILL be available in one way or another after the performance. With any luck, I'll just dump the .wav over to my server and let it run; otherwise it may take me a day or so to get it online somewhere (most likely here: http://72.85.228.116/audio )

BTW, I just did the maths, too, and I should be starting around 6:00 AM your time ... great way to start your day! LOL ...

Dennis

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I just did the maths here and realized this is going to happen around
3AM my local time. Is StillStream doing archived repeats?

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
http://myspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
------=_Part_29417_25920766.1218232827903-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 22:55:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E34083BF69; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <8AE76B4063A446ECB9B46B4DD87493E1@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <66f9cc1e0808080618x70dede5as5ff2241b6479e1be@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Plug-ins, effects - what's in your basic tool box? Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:55:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:55:58 +0000 (UTC) My list, just referring generically to the effects like you, vs. the brand. Parametric Equalizer (max) Compressor (max) Reverb (max) Delay (max, and vst) Multi Pitch shifter (max, vst) Distortion (vsts) Filter (max, vst) Comb filter (max) Ring Modulation (max, vst) Granular Synthesis (max, vsts) Guitar amp sim (vst) Modulation/Chorus (max, vst) Bit reduction (max, vst) Panner (max, vst) Chopper (max, vst) ...I could be missing few. Kris > Hi, > > From reading he list I'm under the impression that many members are > looking for some special effects, since there is such a big interest > in free VSTs? I'd like to suggest that we discuss what we have in our > tool boxes! Plug-ins, stomp boxes or rack devises - it's all the same > musical functions that you may chain together in different > combinations. > > Here's what I use: > > - Parametric Equalizer, > - Compressor, > - Reverb, > - Delay, > - Harmonizer, > - Distortion, > - Filterbank, > - Ring Modulation, > - Noise Gate. > > With these nine units I am fully confident that I can patch up all the > sounds I will every want to play with. > > When it comes to a plug-in host application I favor those with an open > patching environment. I like my laptop to be just as simple as the > classic studio environment: (1) Audio Source Input, (2) Mixing Console > with signal routing capabilities and (3) Effect Rack. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 8 23:35:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3F3C3BF52; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 23:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_5365350214623755 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:35:48 -0500 Subject: FlyLoops update From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: <2657983d61af465c9e8fe96548a4d2f2@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 23:35:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_5365350214623755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0AI get about 100 downloads now a month, but still no feedback from the= folks on this group ..... weird that people don't seem more interested ...= . I would have thought this would be ground zero for new looping device com= mentary ...... =0D=0A=0D=0Aanyway, here's an update and maybe this time I c= an get some comments .....=0D=0A=0D=0AI just put the finishing touches on m= idi learn and bundled a FCB1010 config which should load up as the default = when you run the program.=0D=0A=0D=0ASo you can download, unzip, and loop i= mmediately.=0D=0A=0D=0AFlyLoops has five parallel loops each independently = configurable and all that.=0D=0A=0D=0AI've mentioned all the functions on h= ere before, and they are available on the website, so I won't bother with t= hat again ...... the big ones are real time loop turntablism, and frequency= shifting that stays in step with tempo by restarting with the master .....= . project heartbeat, I usually call that.=0D=0A=0D=0AOtherwise, stack, mult= iply, overwrite, fade .... all the usual stuff.=0D=0A=0D=0AVST compatibilit= y coming soon. Mac version after that. =0D=0ACurrently only windows, and = only ASIO.=0D=0A=0D=0Awww.flyloops.com/download.htm for the download =0D=0A= =0D=0Awww.flyloops.com for the specs and everything else.=0D=0A=0D=0Acommen= ts, questions, anyone ?=0D=0A=0D=0A----------------------------------------= =0D=0AFrom: "Krispen Hartung" =0D=0ASent: Thursday, = August 07, 2008 7:25 PM=0D=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0AS= ubject: Re: New software looper =0D=0A=0D=0AThat's right. Aren't you a meme= ber of the Pave the Earth Society yet? Let's =0D=0Aget it over with. Let t= he street sweepers rule.=0D=0A=0D=0AKris=0D=0A=0D=0A----- Original Message = ----- =0D=0A=0D=0A> Yeah, fuck trees!=0D=0A> On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, K= rispen Hartung wrote:=0D=0A>=0D=0A>> Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. = And open source! Whooh! I have to =0D=0A>> check this out. I think it wa= s designed by tree huggers, though. :)=0D=0A>>=0D=0A>>=0D=0A>> Kris=0D=0A>= >=0D=0A>> ----- Original Message -----=0D=0A>>=0D=0A>>> Looks interesting-= =0D=0A>>>=0D=0A>>> http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php=0D=0A>>>= =0D=0A>>> The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it de= pends =0D=0A>>> how well that works for "live" looping needs.=0D=0A>>>=0D= =0A>>> Best-=0D=0A>>>=0D=0A>>> Mark=0D=0A>>=0D=0A> =0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_5365350214623755 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I get about 100 downloads now a month, but still no feedback from the f= olks on this group ..... weird that people don't seem more interested .... = I would have thought this would be ground zero for new looping device comme= ntary ......

anyway, here's an update and maybe this time I can get= some comments .....

I just put the finishing touches on midi learn = and bundled a FCB1010 config which should load up as the default when you r= un the program.

So you can download, unzip, and loop immediately.
FlyLoops has five parallel loops each independently configurable and a= ll that.

I've mentioned all the functions on here before, and they a= re available on the website, so I won't bother with that again ...... the b= ig ones are real time loop turntablism, and frequency shifting that stays i= n step with tempo by restarting with the master ...... project heartbeat, I= usually call that.

Otherwise, stack, multiply, overwrite, fade ....= all the usual stuff.

VST compatibility coming soon.  Mac versi= on after that. 
Currently only windows, and only ASIO.
=0D=0Awww.flyloops.com/download.htm for the download

www.flyloops.com f= or the specs and everything else.

comments, questions, anyone ?
<= br>







From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:25 PM
To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: New software loop= er

That's right. Aren't you a memeber of the Pave the Earth S= ociety yet? Let's
get it over with. Let the street sweepers rule.
<= br>Kris

----- Original Message -----


> Yeah, fuck tre= es!
> On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:
>
= >> Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I = have to
>> check this out. I think it was designed by tree hugge= rs, though. :)
>>
>>
>> Kris
>>
>= ;> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>> Looks intere= sting-
>>>
>>> http://lividinstruments.com/software= _looper.php
>>>
>>> The live audio recording featur= e caught my eye, of course, it depends
>>> how well that work= s for "live" looping needs.
>>>
>>> Best-
>&g= t;>
>>> Mark
>>
>


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= --_5e60cc59-7a4e-40a5-bae1-d6b2828ba95c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 03:38:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 474FB3BF41; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 03:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=iv4PGgq2+pio4EV0bHPfN/hxLRq/5JKl4+oSw09kJXY=; b=hgPrnep1A8jYRjYiWufMBhynmF02S12q4gSUG5KgSA/0kYPLoES1lUuzJV6nwMTBkj J0FZwIqMgzKxSU8JmLvGYhMy5ljE1vc4epKqugrqCjNx7+MtlORUd6j1HC/aNY50ADxJ B9wA5irtpCOm5ANk3LqPxTTdMlJG5ERd0a+w0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=SbxwBaLZj9rTIQpapwFJ3edLmyVNjiws6aUGd/hOT9R0fB/5YkraofkpgCSrGDTOxz iXWW8dtxVolve49VVdeCcP7//GN2KiNW1gZHd7F+lcQfbWtkvqt1aQsSulY7jypxp/cq Q0UtrbgOdOxScDkuY2+ONFh7i95m43ckU9GVg= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 05:38:27 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MacBook In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_57743_33066448.1218253107201" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 03:38:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_57743_33066448.1218253107201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline All models have great latency rates as it seems ... i own an audiofire2 (for live, thanks to per's suggestion) and now have gone with the audiofire12 for studio tasks. raul. 2008/8/8 Mark Smart > The AudioFire card arrived today, and I hooked it up to the MacBook. > SMOKING! Wow, this is fast. This is the first time I've had a computer > setup where the latency wasn't annoying. It's fast even inside > Ableton. Thanks for the suggestions! > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_57743_33066448.1218253107201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
All models have great latency rates as it seems ... i own an audiofire2 (for live, thanks to per's suggestion) and now  have gone with the audiofire12 for studio tasks.

raul.

2008/8/8 Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com>
The AudioFire card arrived today, and I hooked it up to the MacBook.
SMOKING! Wow, this is fast. This is the first time I've had a computer
setup where the latency wasn't annoying. It's fast even inside
Ableton. Thanks for the suggestions!



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_57743_33066448.1218253107201-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 07:36:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E92273BF4C; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "geoff james" To: References: <735E40BABA334C998B1C8D6AE5E2F613@GeoffPC> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: repeater mk 2 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:36:12 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C8FA35.A6E58710" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150201.489D48ED.0089,ss=1,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:36:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C8FA35.A6E58710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Fro. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: J Johans=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:47 AM Subject: RE: repeater mk 2 mk2 doesnt exist...dont think they ever even made a prototype electrix went unter for the 2nd or 3rd time, so i imagine they're done = for- the oriiginal repeater with version 2 software is pretty aweomse = though- =20 feel free to email me if you have any questions =20 fro -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: afas00@bigpond.net.au To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: repeater mk 2 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:50:25 +0800 Hi , i'm new to the list and would like some info regarding the above = sampler. I have googled etc , but get more confused with each seach. It seems it's been available , but out of stock and at a reduced = price----go figure. Regards Geoff James -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. = Share now! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: = 8/08/2008 9:02 AM ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C8FA35.A6E58710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Fro.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 J=20 Johans
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 = 10:47=20 AM
Subject: RE: repeater mk = 2

mk2 doesnt exist...dont think they ever even made a=20 prototype
electrix went unter for the 2nd or 3rd time, so i imagine = they're=20 done for-
the oriiginal repeater with version 2 software is pretty = aweomse=20 though-
 
feel free to email me if you have any=20 questions
 
fro



From: afas00@bigpond.net.au
To: = Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject:=20 repeater mk 2
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:50:25 +0800


Hi , i'm new to the list and would = like some info=20 regarding the above sampler.
I have googled etc , but get more = confused with=20 each seach.
It seems it's been available , but = out of stock=20 and at a reduced price----go figure.
Regards
Geoff James

Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. = Share now!
No virus found in this incoming =
message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: =
8/08/2008 9:02 AM
------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C8FA35.A6E58710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 08:25:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A7A43BF4D; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 08:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:25:14 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <489D546A.8000107@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 08:25:26 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, August 9 at 6:00 am (EDT/GMT-4/ITZ-5). I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 12:36:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC7433BF3D; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=6hkjh6HNvMO4AccPv2N+r3YMQhw/c5AqQW6/DGv7LKg=; b=A80nREtp/kiUAX5CEoUgCPWXaH6S+xgYXOozl/th2DOA2oiAZoM5YPSe5P+DHL7GuE aNPXI1tIaqdZ01DP6o8G9UoRSTUroBZvbEakvfuKivAATjituye0H7mXsG5bgL2IK3MK mdfmOXO5RqN1JHHecB/v71Jn7iQoOUnfMSWRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Bu+E4QXKuVIQEkzTZhPFa3AFwfg+7sGU0QNKXWZ1VG1RaIG0oJR7/4cFt/isnUSgQU 5GYLI9M3RyKDtCfFigbDb7rDn5In6TNVGvhDoo1K0RymYGaNHjlme+iE3DbHnJjbL8Bt itEsEAxIpPQYoYKP+ZKG/Mvwk4ei1/Yt1onZw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808090536n450fb167kbaa2e57793ca9203@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:36:16 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Just got this video into YouTube MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <1EnByD.A.d2C.A9YnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:36:16 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isUl2pcq1NQ Please don't bother if you already checked the MySpace video I posted two days ago. This is the same concert - but since YouTube forced me to cut it down under ten minutes it came out slightly better! :-) I think this video, shot by Marc Francombe, gives some examples regarding discussions I've been involved in here on the list: "ensemble improvisation with live looping", "listening to you buddies while killing your darlings", "laptop looping", "fretless guitar", "looping strategies". Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 13:42:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB6A83BF40; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 13:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218289378; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Abk+2GYwdQXKmoTMR2s37IUYchs=; b=OrABOegodiJKhcUAKyLVCZzfT4DXf785WkweUOPBKBxsX45MTO9PLb8m+kIkTH/2 6lLwUoDUsQqIgZAsjC77ZgEmYQkN5HKmcCHP1UuzaezpfDYKFf8CuOPin68rM4Kx; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=YbFJ-QL2yIcLeZ9ccp0A:9 a=rYXjDC3bazsYpTwEDpMA:7 a=GN5qD6TXRADirvh4hm7VZ1k_ns8A:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c8fa2e$328f4970$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <66f9cc1e0808090536n450fb167kbaa2e57793ca9203@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Just got this video into YouTube Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:42:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 13:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Hey Per, watching now, great stuff. Whats that attached to your headstock? Sustainiac? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: "loopers-delight" Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Just got this video into YouTube > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isUl2pcq1NQ > > Please don't bother if you already checked the MySpace video I posted > two days ago. This is the same concert - but since YouTube forced me > to cut it down under ten minutes it came out slightly better! :-) I > think this video, shot by Marc Francombe, gives some examples > regarding discussions I've been involved in here on the list: > "ensemble improvisation with live looping", "listening to you buddies > while killing your darlings", "laptop looping", "fretless guitar", > "looping strategies". > > Per > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: 8/8/2008 > 9:02 AM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 14:10:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C8EF3BF3B; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=eIz9sLirsAYipolmbeuuPJDNI895az9dBcimWcW8CGE=; b=EgPG+9ittIHXri7IDLfDZIHeaZuUxjqQAMYBGXSQQWjkgcZwkqXisCXbHRU0Kw8uhD RM/fBSpa4Jl8UBmAOd2YOYCrpSdpBTwStrQLXIqfYIxt5dPgGSTOwOHvXTmyIutP7KN+ VAoLEzTvbxDTkjGeyexRDxmqtzkpnLLoLIeTA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=CRCNiSY6vJiycRU+A1JQg9dRZtJ5S2VN6C8e842FRP8DOvEgUJSkSQoWMhnFeuPMjJ 9CWZtHV83wiq1thrL7ICNE+m93VxGE4JS0vVgTll5DeNWtewzDkh7XnL8LA8Ow6CD40z dhxg8ravDq7C/LbBIJuFg+ZG0y5FMP0F/9f2s= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808090710q1859b4d9lf403366caee7bb3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:10:48 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Just got this video into YouTube In-Reply-To: <000601c8fa2e$328f4970$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808090536n450fb167kbaa2e57793ca9203@mail.gmail.com> <000601c8fa2e$328f4970$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:10:49 +0000 (UTC) > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isUl2pcq1NQ On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Hey Per, watching now, great stuff. Whats that attached to your headstock? > Sustainiac? > > Jeff Oops, I forgot to mention that I use a Sustaniac C. It's the electro-mechanical sustainer; you clamp a transducer to the headstock that induces sympathetic vibrations into the wood of the instrument according to the string vibration. The feel, when playing with it, is close to the feel of playing at very loud volume, except for the fact that you are not able to "play the feedback tone" by modifying the guitar's position and angle in the air. A cool thing with the Model C is that it offers an effect loop to put something into the signal chain that feeds the string vibrations to the transducer on the headstock. The typical trick is to use a wha pedal in that loop and sweep the feedback tone through the spectrum of overtones. I have not gotten into that yet, since my feet and hands are already tied up by controlling the looping. But that's something I will definitely get dirty with in the studio. Per From jere_hassan01@universia.cl Sat Aug 9 15:24:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2509 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:24:40 UTC Received: from daganzo.mx1.universia.net (daganzo.mx1.universia.net [195.149.210.98]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995B23BE77 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.universia.net (baterno.univ.corp [192.168.41.103]) by daganzo.mx1.universia.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D79692629AF; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:42:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 41.203.226.177 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jere_hassan01@universia.cl) by mail.universia.net with HTTP; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:42:48 -0400 (CLT) Message-ID: <19958.41.203.226.177.1218292968.squirrel@mail.universia.net> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:42:48 -0400 (CLT) Subject: URGENT POSITIVE RESPONSE IS NEEDED. From: "Jere Hassan" Reply-To: mrjere@hotmail.fr User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:;

DEAR FRIEND,
 
I AM MR. JERE HASSAN, A BANKER IN ONE OF THE REPUTABLE BANK IN BURKINA FASO. I HAVE DECIDED TO CONTACT YOU ON A BUSINESS PROPOSAL OF US$8.5M (EIGHT MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLAR).  THE DEPOSITOR OF THE SAID FUND DIED WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMILY DURING THE IRAQ WAR IN 2006. THE DECEASED CUSTOMER USED HIS WIFE AS THE NEXT OF KIN BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE WIFE DIED ALONG SIDE WITH HIM LEAVING NOBODY FOR THE CLIAM.
 
ACCORDING TO OUR BANKING LAW, IF THE FUND REMAIN UNCLAIMED FOR TWO (2) YEARS THEN, THE FUND WILL BE TRANSFER INTO THE RESERVE BANK OF BURKINA AS UNCLAIMED BILL. I DON'T WANT THE FUND TO GO INTO THE BANK TREASURY AND AS SUCH, LET US CLAIM THE FUND NOW.

 

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1) YOUR FULL NAME.............................


2) YOUR AGE........................................


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8) ALTERNATIVE E-MAIL ADDRESS /

 

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BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER.

 

 

 

 



Portal Universia Chile - Red de universidades red de oportunidades.
http://www.universia.cl


From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 15:26:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FCBD3BF39; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=AhKCoxcoZQQi52DcDh4zRVCXyo13RCIjssQlEt9uzyg=; b=r0nusd9BOjV1CdhneqRjcN1zYeRvY9sziq5GoXu37UocuKvBvT7YUrmrBQafIWDDOe SrNzbuAPeJi/A5tdCQfAtIuIjWl8im2n9O/UaznLo8YPWHL1oPEibResIYJZfLuDmtp1 ZbyhFYg1Q2GrDLiSV0qqYOjd3bK2lZ5e5vOfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=Oe6Afu5xRTMFqEk4CgmbyTQhBuAZFfZGaSsErGrvpd+QkvyWzqn4ywv6ug01eKpEfB BHtQxLoj4SF6c+Qnq+SOe2Hk+KgzFQpnanUwf/fpLGidu7ovJWaCtPfVdFPfHnTMhVR9 hTwpFdgFOUAIJZ+iiUuPMrTntCydMJ/clk9cg= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808090826m1f55cf7bq7059f707f8bd5905@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:26:39 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: More Videos, featureing Per and Rick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12079_24388617.1218295599121" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 47d34434f67cbe06 Resent-Message-ID: <6TsbjD.A.uKB.wcbnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:26:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12079_24388617.1218295599121 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline And talking of videos, here are some more... Also filmed by me, (although not posted by me) also on Ricks Euro Tour... These are: rick walker per boysen & tellef ogrim http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=brXVKqYf-S8 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YAySrzSa7Hg -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_12079_24388617.1218295599121 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
And talking of videos, here are some more... Also filmed by me, (although not posted by me) also on Ricks Euro Tour...
These are:

rick walker per boysen  & tellef ogrim

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=brXVKqYf-S8


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YAySrzSa7Hg

--
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------=_Part_12079_24388617.1218295599121-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 16:19:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04D083BF39; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=KAfKUZfADUAwqmUlOgmE/O+Aj92Tlm0JjAXPAVVxy+U=; b=dsQws6afBjFMDfUWzZqbkRrjgN91VZwnmghTAcbTWcEssoI26yy1IVC8OFg+PitEkg zmx7YUVMl88dq85TXHYAvS6EfMXOK0tYOU3kAur+/ZZgGG4/J4j3RqEkB5zbsSrlJLPZ MRJH9oIJSHQzQri9DI/1IxCydydQFU51jnsPI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fTJWaQtIl+hv1EAVA0ifK3hIi2GWCJvjFRppT3Zrxfo0KwQmei9rD17LI2GEGG4vbd LnnHpuzFoYcH2qSFSiXn6mnKOEYo3CKE6jKw7LqBfEomoWz8ZIbz4U++oTWkjtqw3eD3 xYdGi7qdv6UR/PF4mPU8j0/h1zBzrPTI+4IZQ= Message-ID: <7aa53e300808090919s3cf54f26ye990f976844fb7e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:19:32 -0400 From: "mike karnowski" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: best replacement for Digitech PDS 1002? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <7UFILD.A.-UC.WOcnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:19:34 +0000 (UTC) I have been using 3 Digitech PDS 1002 pedals for around 15 years for looping and have developed my style around them, but they have gotten sooooo noisy (especially strung together) that I am looking for a replacement. The way I use them is to fill the sample memory with silence then set the mix to 100%, then whatever signal I have going in is silent until i do a quick double click and I can grab a short sample which is all you then hear in the loop. repeat as needed. Do any of the newer pedals allow one to do this? I haven't found many that have a mix control. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers! -potpie From awal@batelco.com.bh Sat Aug 9 16:36:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3602 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:36:39 UTC Received: from batelco.com.bh (cgpbe2.batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.112]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FA03BEE1 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.205.56.42] (account awal@batelco.com.bh) by cgpbe2.batelco.com.bh (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.2.6) with HTTP id 2230660; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:36:31 +0300 From: atmdepart.ng@gmail.com Subject: Batch No: {W-342-8876,U-500-32} X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.2.6 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:36:31 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: undisclosed-recipients:; Dear Beneficiary. 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E-mail: atmdepart.ng@gmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 17:27:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10B043BF2E; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1323 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:27:19 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080808202449.53D973BF75@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20080808202449.53D973BF75@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <665513D8-82F4-43AB-BDB8-0D486BF878EC@lividinstruments.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Nyboer Subject: Re: New software looper Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:05:09 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <9b7Au.A.axD.3NdnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi Loopers, I'm Peter Nyboer, programmer for Livid Instruments - fellow San Jose resident (San Josean? San Joser?) Tim Thompson let me know there was some talk here about Livid Looper. Thanks for checking it out. For the mac people, I thought I'd let you know that there was a problem with yesterday's release pointing to the wrong file, so I'd urge you to re-download the correct version from http://www.lividserver.com/dl/looper/LividLooper_1.0.dmg Sigh - these things are never as smooth as one would like! If you have issues, and as a first release, I'm sure there will be, feel free to post them on the forums at http://forums.lividinstruments.com/ There's a lot that I put in here to make it good for live looping. One feature I'd urge you to check out, besides the recording, is the sequencers that make it really easy to record and stack multiple looped "gestures" (parameter changes) for each audio loop. Things can get really addictive with that... Finally, this made ME laugh: > The text reads like a PR announcement from a software company > marketing exec who's possibly never used the software himself... I wrote that copy!! I am glad to know that I can apparently wear both hats of designer/developer as well as clueless PR hack :) Best, Pete. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 18:12:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 343BA3BF13; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_04b45713-2835-4b54-a857-6f7e5b5756a5_" X-Originating-IP: [67.83.205.151] From: David Grego To: Subject: Caffe Vivaldi! 10pm Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:12:22 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <06A01034-5911-4784-8A82-D637DD7A8E16@gmail.com> References: <489B2767.1030802@gordius.be> <06A01034-5911-4784-8A82-D637DD7A8E16@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2008 18:12:23.0025 (UTC) FILETIME=[78716E10:01C8FA4B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:12:24 +0000 (UTC) --_04b45713-2835-4b54-a857-6f7e5b5756a5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Topu: It was great seeing and hearing your duo perform on Thursday night= . So when is your album coming out?? Be well=2C David _________________________________________________________________ Get more from your digital life. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_Home2_082008= --_04b45713-2835-4b54-a857-6f7e5b5756a5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Topu: It was great seeing and hearing your duo perform on Thursday night= . So when is your album coming out?? =3B Be well=2C David


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Find out h= ow. = --_04b45713-2835-4b54-a857-6f7e5b5756a5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 18:54:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C92A3BF32; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=AAvQJ6Jz86D73uNFBnkpzUnCLGFdoG5yWdur19Lfscs=; b=P/b9a6sMnNR1fHMTNvnC7pcL5p08rSGpGv2TJcQHGRHJPYJOQlVLpXROm9+A6ELtfw GAwFtkvRWGbYVXlMiNRKod2ZrH0v8MO4D+lYrV79mxaD6HzNbh3nY1oMFlDVB2SVjen6 eQp+EhaJqEp4hICGKaloJEo+HrjNUNFvns/Ds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ZWvwpOOefQjSLIKv+A/wZ4392nQGp1fOZNIADMqTvJX2KBLjT6O5iI5LngPGBowYV3 5ttK6Jq5+/rhjD760tPAC/k+A6a9wpfmBUHJ07UFdUaeyeKLhjrlZQjfkNrrTA5WQR76 JfjUsIcquWVHZO17DPiFlSZfXWXTapAMDf2vM= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808091154s615daef4la2c95ff24a8cbb95@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:54:05 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New software looper In-Reply-To: <665513D8-82F4-43AB-BDB8-0D486BF878EC@lividinstruments.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080808202449.53D973BF75@arsenic.violacea.com> <665513D8-82F4-43AB-BDB8-0D486BF878EC@lividinstruments.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:54:07 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > release pointing to the wrong file, so I'd urge you to re-download the > correct version from > http://www.lividserver.com/dl/looper/LividLooper_1.0.dmg Woops ----> Just checked mine and it was version 5.0.4.(3749) (!) I've had it for about a week, so I guess I'll download from this post's new link before booting up for all the fun. Awesome - what more can one wish for on a rainy Saturday night! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 19:09:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C38803BEA4; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218308942; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=vzSVFc/LItpfUCRZrLv4m31qPOA=; b=p0mmxw/MNYXUCvnqAwQNQQKvyzi3yydiUYgvIvVmS3KgJl7ueuoK3GCf/lzVqezq e5MHi9qJ+OgBPsLg/6YplswfKG7dp1CJuWdyS4uMd0HdtMiJpLLr5Nrk3UZcmnJf; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9HVnJaMjkvcA:10 a=9KFRnCnZxSsA:10 a=xBBY21LMAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=uXzEHdLjhzBRYqLX3ckA:9 a=tI_sG-c4wxq0vgS0EnoA:7 a=Zt8qwD6UhH6f4gqRBYp1e8afrGEA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001201c8fa53$62be7e20$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7aa53e300808090919s3cf54f26ye990f976844fb7e5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: best replacement for Digitech PDS 1002? Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:09:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <-aHgxC.A.PQF.PtenIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Hey Mike, yeah I loved my old Digi RDS delays and I had a couple of 7.6 sec Time Machines that could do stuff none of the new ones can, but noisy yeah. You might look at a X series "Digidelay" I have one and its pretty cool. And cheap. http://www.zzounds.com/item--DGTDD Actually I just got it out and it does not have a mix control. It has an effects level knob. So once you make a loop you have to reach down and twiddle. Also if you step on the button to stop it clears the loop. No feedback. 4 sec loop. Its cool though tap tempo and reverse delay. I use a Boss DD20 that has a level control for the delay, I love it and it can do alot of tricks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snmDerEq7lM&feature=related Lotta other youtube stuff. The LD site has some great stuff on it but I can't get into the site right now. The Line 6 Dl4 may be what you need. In loop mode an expression pedal can control the mix. Half speed, reverse. No real feedback control but the expression pedal is a workaround. I can't live without this pedal! I use it mostly for the delay models. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5CleF6J_4w&feature=user Also alot more video up. Be careful though or you will end up like this guy (not me but close) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAuph0l0ONQ&feature=related Anyway enough outta me.... peace Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike karnowski" To: Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 11:19 AM Subject: best replacement for Digitech PDS 1002? > I have been using 3 Digitech PDS 1002 pedals for around 15 years for > looping and have developed my style around them, but they have gotten > sooooo noisy (especially strung together) that I am looking for a > replacement. > > The way I use them is to fill the sample memory with silence then > set the mix to 100%, then whatever signal I have going in is silent > until i do a quick double click and I can grab a short sample which is > all you then hear in the loop. repeat as needed. > > Do any of the newer pedals allow one to do this? I haven't found > many that have a mix control. Any advice would be appreciated. > Cheers! -potpie > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: 8/9/2008 > 1:22 PM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 20:05:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56C123BF30; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zf20TJDWQfjsxq5Xaioa+Y+VvjXoe8BlET+x+3rPHXE=; b=Gf6AmA46zsZuxBDlpFEDH/wFmNP12vEOTh8kAQark/BFt/OeQga0iRhlHajOGpEkhP wsfrpMbZOTrShyN34XPhoweoTaqtJdRsGWJIJuYZjYcqgM/GlGRclBjAzvdXM6qzjMeo WCqj/Cg4fwrfSF2YfiLn0ubrjuxZr4SLxpWos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Gji9kzLHde5nSEy3BO3c1+d6CYrAYwX+KS/iEPpTkylvRcOeG74U8HyMKphQWif2+W J3lLczTIhMyrBwFIUupHSFCFUqB7dodGwTGEQgQPr+Hb6ZEoGzc6mSUHUq84Jpvuuc8D A9P5fuWOjLT61i9pdbLtjoctvT9R0yBBrzwAY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808091305w43ef0a6br22c06f6dd79bfe7b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:05:31 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New software looper In-Reply-To: <665513D8-82F4-43AB-BDB8-0D486BF878EC@lividinstruments.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080808202449.53D973BF75@arsenic.violacea.com> <665513D8-82F4-43AB-BDB8-0D486BF878EC@lividinstruments.com> Resent-Message-ID: <62j5_D.A.b7F.MifnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:05:32 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > Hi Loopers, > > I'm Peter Nyboer, programmer for Livid Instruments - fellow San Jose > resident (San Josean? San Joser?) Tim Thompson let me know there was some > talk here about Livid Looper. Thanks for checking it out. Is anyone successfully getting live audio input recorded? I'm on a MacBook here and LividLooper does indeed recognize my soundcard input, since it is appropriately displayed by the Input Meters module. I'm following the manual precisely: clicking the "Rec" button and waiting for it to leave the yellow status to record in the green status. But I see or hear no indication that my mic input is being recorded. I can't find a way to set the tempo by the action of recording audio - is that possible? I would prefer that as opposed to manually setting the tempo in advance and then having to "guess on a silent click-track" for the first recording. Ideas? It's a very good and understandable manual BTW! Great idea with that first GUI figure with characters that are used in the following text as headers for each part giving a closer look at that particular section. This concept is also used by the Swedish Income Tax Authorities! (now dig that ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 20:53:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D2243BF37; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_1700862577280527 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:53:33 -0500 Subject: Re: New software looper From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: <660bbcfe0262436988b07b285dda892f@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:53:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_1700862577280527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0AYeah, I'll second that .....=0D=0A=0D=0AI really like the look = and feel of this program, and some of the options it seems to support ... b= ut I haven't figured out how to record and loop audio live yet ..... the on= ly record that seems to work for me is the one that records to a file that = I need to load up afterward ......=0D=0A=0D=0Aam I missing something? =0D= =0A=0D=0AAnd my other questions was also about the rec tempo ... can we ask= the program to calculate that after recording/looping?=0D=0A=0D=0A--------= --------------------------------=0D=0AFrom: "Per Boysen" =0D=0ASent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:05 PM=0D=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: New software looper =0D=0A=0D=0AOn Sa= t, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote:=0D=0A> Hi Loopers,=0D=0A>= =0D=0A> I'm Peter Nyboer, programmer for Livid Instruments - fellow San Jos= e=0D=0A> resident (San Josean? San Joser?) Tim Thompson let me know there w= as some=0D=0A> talk here about Livid Looper. Thanks for checking it out.= =0D=0A=0D=0AIs anyone successfully getting live audio input recorded? I'm o= n a=0D=0AMacBook here and LividLooper does indeed recognize my soundcard in= put,=0D=0Asince it is appropriately displayed by the Input Meters module. I= 'm=0D=0Afollowing the manual precisely: clicking the "Rec" button and waiti= ng=0D=0Afor it to leave the yellow status to record in the green status. Bu= t I=0D=0Asee or hear no indication that my mic input is being recorded.=0D= =0A=0D=0AI can't find a way to set the tempo by the action of recording aud= io -=0D=0Ais that possible? I would prefer that as opposed to manually sett= ing=0D=0Athe tempo in advance and then having to "guess on a silent=0D=0Acl= ick-track" for the first recording. Ideas?=0D=0A=0D=0AIt's a very good and = understandable manual BTW! Great idea with that=0D=0Afirst GUI figure with = characters that are used in the following text=0D=0Aas headers for each par= t giving a closer look at that particular=0D=0Asection. This concept is als= o used by the Swedish Income Tax=0D=0AAuthorities! (now dig that ;-)=0D=0A= =0D=0A-- =0D=0AGreetings from Sweden=0D=0A=0D=0APer Boysen=0D=0Awww.boysen.= se (Swedish)=0D=0Awww.looproom.com (international)=0D=0Awww.myspace.com/per= boysen=0D=0Awww.stockholm-athens.com=0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_1700862577280527 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Yeah, I'll second that .....

I really like the look and = feel of this program, and some of the options it seems to support ... but I= haven't figured out how to record and loop audio live yet ..... the only r= ecord that seems to work for me is the one that records to a file that I ne= ed to load up afterward ......

am I missing something? 
And my other questions was also about the rec tempo ... can we ask the pro= gram to calculate that after recording/looping?




From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com= >
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:05 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: New software looper

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:05 PM, = Peter Nyboer wrote:
> Hi Loopers,
>=
> I'm Peter Nyboer, programmer for Livid Instruments - fellow San Jo= se
> resident (San Josean? San Joser?) Tim Thompson let me know there= was some
> talk here about Livid Looper. Thanks for checking it out= .


Is anyone successfully getting live audio input recorded? I'm = on a
MacBook here and LividLooper does indeed recognize my soundcard inp= ut,
since it is appropriately displayed by the Input Meters module. I'm<= br>following the manual precisely: clicking the "Rec" button and waitingfor it to leave the yellow status to record in the green status. But I
= see or hear no indication that my mic input is being recorded.

I can= 't find a way to set the tempo by the action of recording audio -
is tha= t possible? I would prefer that as opposed to manually setting
the tempo= in advance and then having to "guess on a silent
click-track" for the f= irst recording. Ideas?

It's a very good and understandable manual BT= W! Great idea with that
first GUI figure with characters that are used i= n the following text
as headers for each part giving a closer look at th= at particular
section. This concept is also used by the Swedish Income T= ax
Authorities! (now dig that ;-)

--
Greetings from Sweden
Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (internation= al)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com


------_SmarterMail_NextPart_1700862577280527-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 21:28:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8B6A3BF37; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218317328; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=+eEgQhFU4bzj9eOR+ojtk3Rt8RY=; b=kQhad7EUDq9z5MhthCLnpYzw8Vr1PxQcZ8TIb9OZvfNyckMFvcEiuVloONhsvUYm xjWpR7lcfztAx093OU1myIgJFnwNUiLLndDlccQFQ4uBFxTLhHj5yUaiTZbuQJF9; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tTaHZkRpAeN1MlQz2Q4A:9 a=C4-M4Ck5yJCZMjSBcBcqmOtGR5oA:4 a=kwz2ALlf93kA:10 a=9hwX-Kk8EvpXgfpqcY8A:9 a=1X040QgPGOM8HCx4eScA:7 a=oMH9eL3QctVP40luG_U8HnrLtsIA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c8fa66$e9308b20$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: LD site Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:28:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA3C.FFD4FF70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:28:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA3C.FFD4FF70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anybody else not able to get to the LD site? ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA3C.FFD4FF70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
anybody else not able to get to the LD=20 site?
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FA3C.FFD4FF70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 21:36:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 193EF3BF3B; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=i2jDuKkR2x96nlQVlkxAH08fVzZaKYdpAj99sVdvdn4=; b=iuUOZo/lYISlFYERw8wcn4VTRb/toknO5TobaA9lkNIE04yUs/QoRZF3Xt+fnp3pJ8 nv5s4cXDDsTIXs6Hi0I0PaCWPBj8grbbMKmC9ivjNSjil0QjDDCQ2YkVvHx7ivAT+xF9 dQa8WPwvZtHTxykC2VXrjiF++lKxQcIzPCG/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IU6bEv8R1+4XIYVFoxl2YpA43Zsb7+4aK9/XfzqSpZc0+DHk2v2AmZbIzWcn6hag+0 /yjoEeYtC9uQDIKgk6/Y66wheapBORmW23dtT09eieZSSMM90mstUfzgemUDmc+R5N9v KMKrMuMDkIsvdG6qIVWlQ+V3L2OmzsbSpanoE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808091436q132c39aakf1e82ae96b4bbc32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:36:53 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD site In-Reply-To: <000801c8fa66$e9308b20$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c8fa66$e9308b20$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:36:54 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > anybody else not able to get to the LD site? Yes. (Meaning I can't get in. Something's rotten on the server tonight) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 23:01:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD2503BF11; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218322868; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=mmw0BKvwX9SCXw/K7S9FmT1OS2s=; b=omG5LPxi8aQLNto6mnEuPo+9K9F8yqwcLMBZiC+1ROfu1aYguIWQcZVkVQ3LuxrY c/4KrMJGRBSCoqvMiNlBZ0PO7iaYTFXJUctaSSetQHu9J0wvEsPa9f8Q/KFww++4; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qpDglD9s6IrygvpXnN0A:9 a=kWeCThriCbUMoI0tPlQA:7 a=DPTgdEW4A9lXhwG86hO6T2icOVYA:4 a=M3PvEdNFSBYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c8fa73$cf2cec70$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <66f9cc1e0808090536n450fb167kbaa2e57793ca9203@mail.gmail.com> <000601c8fa2e$328f4970$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <66f9cc1e0808090710q1859b4d9lf403366caee7bb3d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Just got this video into YouTube Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:01:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:01:09 +0000 (UTC) >>Whats that attached to your headstock? >> Sustainiac? >> >> Jeff > > Oops, I forgot to mention that I use a Sustaniac C. It's the > electro-mechanical sustainer; you clamp a transducer to the headstock > that induces sympathetic vibrations into the wood of the instrument > according to the string vibration. The feel, when playing with it, is > close to the feel of playing at very loud volume, except for the fact > that you are not able to "play the feedback tone" by modifying the > guitar's position and angle in the air. A cool thing with the Model C > is that it offers an effect loop to put something into the signal > chain that feeds the string vibrations to the transducer on the > headstock. The typical trick is to use a wha pedal in that loop and > sweep the feedback tone through the spectrum of overtones. I have not > gotten into that yet, since my feet and hands are already tied up by > controlling the looping. But that's something I will definitely get > dirty with in the studio. > > Per Have you ever played with the Fernandes sustainor setup? It does have a harmonics mode where it jumps up an octave. I wonder how it would feel in comparison. I love the idea of an fx loop on the sustainac c. Maybe an auto wah/envelope filter would help to free up the feet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 9 23:18:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E89523BE78; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=acvjWUarYWuB43AkGzySmYTQfsS153/elp6llZKGews=; b=QEeYQKhMYCV88RRetkIKCLwCalTNhJB393sQsplryz3QN5clB9yvPLUrvCKhPutZWr qCVWoYwP6E/7xt2ib3Fl3iFW1nlieCtbDzz2tLxSbD24UIrGFo3FESdScEYdf+m9tZmP l/H0lbBGOGZN90EVFoTUWzqBrzyCWrjmV1BxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ZE45azEqIIGiyv3KWY5cbLr41Sb0Rpo+vyt19GdR3gFTGY6gF5aUZveq9QEp+3+tsX Ep3HF9wMBR/pBNq+rMx2cFDz/SMFm7tQEr9SW55EJ+zCkOg1RpR9PFXP8faNP0PFYH2h V+89MTVU5JgL+m7uxK6XhelnTq6fmId5ZH/MU= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808091618x3392448fgd1e81056d6189904@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:18:49 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD site In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808091436q132c39aakf1e82ae96b4bbc32@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12666_14147233.1218323929308" References: <000801c8fa66$e9308b20$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <66f9cc1e0808091436q132c39aakf1e82ae96b4bbc32@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 278e7c55daa1cfb0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:18:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12666_14147233.1218323929308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline no problem here... On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > anybody else not able to get to the LD site? > > > Yes. > (Meaning I can't get in. Something's rotten on the server tonight) > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_12666_14147233.1218323929308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
no problem here...

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> anybody else not able to get to the LD site?


Yes.
(Meaning I can't get in. Something's rotten on the server tonight)

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:38:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <6bWdH.A.byE.6aknIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:39:06 +0000 (UTC) I wrote: > You might look at a X series "Digidelay" I have one and its pretty cool. > And cheap. > http://www.zzounds.com/item--DGTDD > > Actually I just got it out and it does not have a mix control. It has an > effects level knob. So once you > make a loop you have to reach down and twiddle. Also if you step on the > button to stop it clears the loop. No feedback. 4 sec loop. Its cool > though tap tempo and reverse delay. > After playing with this again for awhile I remembered the (IMHO) best feature of this delay. With any delay mode and tap tempo engaged I put the feedback anywhere short of full, play and tap up to 4 sec.. Then twist the feedback knob to 100%, this engages the hold function. You can play along and it doesn't get added to the loop. Lower it to less than 100% and add more. I had to add a knob extension to the feedback control to make a "toe controller". lol Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 01:40:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02FFE3BF0C; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218332409; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=z7LYCWStlHEJLKUSK2BTfYfP4n8=; b=o8Ae4erqt0NuERMmVNFBH5Kl7xQzLjKfOWzbYhSkgBCK0Qfi6XNIu8LxvAYo0BCX 22CmAL+16+SK9dWTQozl7cRE20+EQ0kgelef4yL3Inh2t3f9a38rsCe26Uw5LIyv; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=deKM-WJZAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=Ta0ql1cWterUvsZRTpUA:9 a=3yWB-kC88QsM6sgzLyYA:7 a=OcX0Qefkz8Mlk1WEuF-o5y0yiqYA:4 a=TyjDiX8iqUUA:10 a=hM5H0qCC1cEA:10 a=QIxH716MraYA:10 a=vViZfcZP9qwA:10 a=Kh8wvr666hQA:10 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=1HJPzAKOgYIA:10 a=f2NaAAVcle0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=GL-Re4spl-cA:10 a=mQU1RLF8bosZO3GB9goA:9 a=heg_YeY7xcopXLdPXSUA:7 a=2EzkUGQooi9idwp4DXsMaCa196wA:4 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001101c8fa92$61a32470$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000801c8fa66$e9308b20$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <66f9cc1e0808091436q132c39aakf1e82ae96b4bbc32@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808091618x3392448fgd1e81056d6189904@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: LD site Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:39:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C8FA68.784798C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:40:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C8FA68.784798C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Working now...must be the ghosts ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 6:18 PM Subject: Re: LD site no problem here... On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Per Boysen = wrote: On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote: > anybody else not able to get to the LD site? Yes. (Meaning I can't get in. Something's rotten on the server tonight) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: 8/9/2008 = 1:22 PM ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C8FA68.784798C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Working now...must be the = ghosts
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From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 = 6:18=20 PM
Subject: Re: LD site

no problem here...

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Jeff Duke = <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
> anybody else not able to get to the LD=20 site?


Yes.
(Meaning I can't get in. Something's = rotten=20 on the server tonight)

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Greetings = from=20 Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com=20 (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com=



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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C8FA68.784798C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 03:47:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D71A3BF06; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808090826m1f55cf7bq7059f707f8bd5905@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0808090826m1f55cf7bq7059f707f8bd5905@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--485325489 Message-Id: <791a15e1a6e7c969a932e5ffd11cea97@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: More Videos, featureing Per and Rick Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:47:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:47:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--485325489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed saw a couple vids and they are VERY NICE! Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs. All around wonderful. And how=20 'bout that Rick Walker? Sheesh! I didn't know you played the tubs,=20 Rick. Sweet in all directions richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 9-Aug-08, at 8:26 AM, mark francombe wrote: > And talking of videos, here are some more... Also filmed by me,=20 > (although not posted by me) also on Ricks Euro Tour... > These are: > > rick walker per boysen=A0 & tellef ogrim > > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrXVKqYf-S8 > > > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYAySrzSa7Hg > > --=20 > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no --Apple-Mail-4--485325489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 saw a couple vids and they are VERY NICE! Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs. All around wonderful. And how 'bout that Rick Walker? Sheesh! I didn't know you played the tubs, Rick. Sweet in all directions =20 Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C =20 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com =20 www.broombusters.org On 9-Aug-08, at 8:26 AM, mark francombe wrote: And talking of videos, here are some more... Also filmed by me, (although not posted by me) also on Ricks Euro Tour... These are: rick walker per boysen=A0 & tellef ogrim = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrXVKq= Yf-S8 = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYAySrz= Sa7Hg --=20 0000,0000,EEEEwww.markfrancombe.com 0000,0000,EEEEwww.looop.no = --Apple-Mail-4--485325489-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 04:38:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 796743BF06; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=IOTmeBs+chBuEYY2JiSjsOKAA0ukyG5MZrkaiZiN5As=; b=igj3f4DDOeII1hAdKx4jxyiEkiJkfHzvHBpJZ+UAuxHge06HWO8CmHobdctseeMrwE 5gAR4nXj8OZXbvFTaYhEVz1SM+Xw4dYuxyAx4ZhVk9dwZYjtsXZGhBWE2EoFsV6i08vb TYyfRdVlPUSigZKeSoEzaZYYK0DZuK4c9t9QE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Lvzg/akN/1Y7wsnFrivFzfIXI+kQcv5ERjZteTD8couoKgRg+70S4g7mSrDTQKlLyB XK9+Ccl+kARlZWDNGr6BvHMdWqiTFIpw4GJBu3QRRhST1C/0KRLzoCBPa+hj335adVdb 6WtvUMFxuj3RJoaylNbCKwe+0XPZMr8m+eKc0= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:38:39 -0600 From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Videos, featureing Per and Rick In-Reply-To: <791a15e1a6e7c969a932e5ffd11cea97@glasswing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17887_4860921.1218343119925" References: <9ab0c76f0808090826m1f55cf7bq7059f707f8bd5905@mail.gmail.com> <791a15e1a6e7c969a932e5ffd11cea97@glasswing.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:38:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17887_4860921.1218343119925 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline oh..... damn! yes!!!!!!! this is amazing! :p < Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs> you may enjoy this Grateful Dead album. 2 CD's of a montage of one song (Dark Star) over all the years... the only album to feature every band member! Melt down was the key word there! :D ^|>^m Mirror Ashes Transitive Axis * CD 1: Transitive Axis* Novature (Formless Nights Fall) Pouring Velvet In Revolving Ash Light Clouds Cast Through Fault Forces The Phil Zone La Estrella Oscura Recedes (While We Can) *CD 2: Mirror Ashes* Transilience 73rd Star Bridge Sonata Cease Tone Beam The Speed Of Space Dark Matter Problem / Every Leaf Is Turning Foldback Time On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > saw a couple vids and they are VERY NICE! > > Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs. All around wonderful. And how 'bout > that Rick Walker? Sheesh! I didn't know you played the tubs, Rick. > > Sweet in all directions > > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > www.broombusters.org > > On 9-Aug-08, at 8:26 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > And talking of videos, here are some more... Also filmed by me, (although >> not posted by me) also on Ricks Euro Tour... >> These are: >> >> rick walker per boysen & tellef ogrim >> >> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=brXVKqYf-S8 >> >> >> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YAySrzSa7Hg >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.looop.no >> > ------=_Part_17887_4860921.1218343119925 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
oh..... damn!  yes!!!!!!!  this is amazing! :p

< Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs>
you may enjoy this Grateful Dead album.  2 CD's of a montage of one song (Dark Star) over all the years... the only album to feature every band member!  Melt down was the key word there! :D     ^|>^m
Mirror Ashes
Transitive Axis


CD 1: Transitive Axis
Novature (Formless Nights Fall) 
Pouring Velvet 
In Revolving Ash Light 
Clouds Cast 
Through 
Fault Forces 
The Phil Zone 
La Estrella Oscura 
Recedes (While We Can) 
CD 2: Mirror Ashes
Transilience 
73rd Star Bridge Sonata 
Cease Tone Beam 
The Speed Of Space 
Dark Matter Problem / Every Leaf Is Turning 
Foldback Time


On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
saw a couple vids and they are VERY NICE!

Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs.  All around wonderful.  And how 'bout that Rick Walker?  Sheesh!  I didn't know you played the tubs, Rick.

Sweet in all directions

richard sales
glassWing farm and studio
vancouver island, b.c.
www.glassWing.com     www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com     www.joannesales.com
www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
www.broombusters.org

On 9-Aug-08, at 8:26 AM, mark francombe wrote:

And talking of videos, here are some more... Also filmed by me, (although not posted by me) also on Ricks Euro Tour...
These are:

rick walker per boysen  & tellef ogrim

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=brXVKqYf-S8


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YAySrzSa7Hg

--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no

------=_Part_17887_4860921.1218343119925-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 05:05:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 677C03BF10; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=5jqkbMLuUR47eXWFoMHNimc3Tggh5egVkowpRl4XKiw=; b=j7k+emsUVdgOOW500kEr7YP2CfN+yL8hKkG5qFfCFoKuBtZ9oAX2umMFI9TLXKyIzM Ruo3rQ6J2qvJ1jtzutsovuk4cdmb4PK9LJp4nZ3mKzf8atSfxsk0LRu/LvC21MJ+n10D 34MbFCZ3sCQvWgT/LAgO6M9rKVx3x3KD9uPdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=KH0DcGOv+TeVFugxRkfp6Ri7nwnC+Hx/7OoyBvtSM5QAkKzCVeXnC+eTTOvraAXHzB G7GbKM+xkOjCtO4CtcwGYuM6UaucLoZy/4Kn4hOqerjNPcTdwLf8geHSDR7zC+8kJDcx /ei8QAUpjbsI4JKhTf3vAk001tsSZFyJNtFo8= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:05:33 -0600 From: "^|>^m" To: loopers-delight Subject: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17905_22656703.1218344734019" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:05:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17905_22656703.1218344734019 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Greetings from Wyoming, Hmmm. My goal is to deflect/absorb sound in such a way to eliminate the garish standing wave in my music room. Aside from costly commercial panels available for purchase ($$$!) can anyone share their personal DIY approach to sound proofing a room? I'm looking for suitable materials, not schematics... i.e. egg crate mattress foam; molds filled with foam; or pad material of some sort. Any stories, attempts, or practical experiences appreciated. Gratsi! Ty, ^|>^m ------=_Part_17905_22656703.1218344734019 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Greetings from Wyoming,

Hmmm.  My goal is to deflect/absorb sound in such a way to eliminate the garish standing wave in my music room.  Aside from costly commercial panels available for purchase ($$$!) can anyone share their personal DIY approach to sound proofing a room? 

I'm looking for suitable materials, not schematics... i.e. egg crate mattress foam; molds filled with foam; or pad material of some sort.  Any stories, attempts, or practical experiences appreciated.  Gratsi!

Ty,
^|>^m
------=_Part_17905_22656703.1218344734019-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 05:21:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A069C3BF05; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Rick Williamson" To: References: <20080808202449.53D973BF75@arsenic.violacea.com> <665513D8-82F4-43AB-BDB8-0D486BF878EC@lividinstruments.com> <66f9cc1e0808091305w43ef0a6br22c06f6dd79bfe7b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808091305w43ef0a6br22c06f6dd79bfe7b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New software looper Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:20:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18000 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:21:46 +0000 (UTC) > Per said... > Is anyone successfully getting live audio input recorded? Yes, this is how I got it to work on my Mac. Record a short .wav or .aiff sound file dosen't matter how long this is just a dummy file. Name it emptyloop and drop it in the Livid Looper sound folder. Startup Livid Looper. Type 120, or whatever you want into the bpm box in the Main window. Although 120 bpm is what it shows on startup, unless I type this in manually it syncs incorrectly on my computer. Open the Loop 1 window and select emptyloop from the popup sound menu. Click on the > to the left of emptyloop and click the on button. To the left of the Rec section select a measure lenght. Click the rec button. When beat 1 comes around again you should be recording. At the end of the measure lenght you selected the sound file should begin to loop back automaticly. > > I can't find a way to set the tempo by the action of recording audio - > is that possible? No. Nice looper Peter. It really needs a thru audio setting. I don't want to record everything. I'm having issues with the defaults changing randomly on quit and restart as well. Rick Williamson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 07:53:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4E063BF08; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ggIEg0-TAAAA:8 a=oFodHeJPsz5iSNqxqd4A:9 a=JxWYPaRRhCG7n5GyBrIA:7 a=GufzjZP_huQeKJFQp8st88gdXnsA:4 a=PxHhwJ9AYXMA:10 Message-ID: <489E9E6F.2040104@vtx.ch> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:53:19 +0200 From: Claude Voit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:53:20 +0000 (UTC) standing wave they _really_ know http://www.recording.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=34 Claude ^|>^m a écrit : > Greetings from Wyoming, > > Hmmm. My goal is to deflect/absorb sound in such a way to eliminate the > garish standing wave in my music room. Aside from costly commercial panels > available for purchase ($$$!) can anyone share their personal DIY approach > to sound proofing a room? > > I'm looking for suitable materials, not schematics... i.e. egg crate > mattress foam; molds filled with foam; or pad material of some sort. Any > stories, attempts, or practical experiences appreciated. Gratsi! > > Ty, > ^|>^m > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 09:15:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F1773BF0A; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TcFNfMW4uZL69cWDQiRC2My4aX6d1qn3x4pm6A6ZMII=; b=qLHgiB0A6/SGDqhDS0IkA2tX4xNOKNTNDbtOq31ESaeZ7RRdfigIhGVbEJHPgCmg4X joatz/KV2huG6Ohh/MQsL9RTonK8h8fvRuP96nOyH/pdy4bd/rVeQgHNW3HlXBqyHpZP VvA1fmURGTuuNJ6YmKTX8Ym0Z68c0arQExmgw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=sD46UG3g0RHMOeX3k7D6iWymOgWJW/wewDlYleXkkaleacQCfkBkpGa7LiIRXDtL0r +GLnbiiQnNL8YHdVtFK2dLMfja6BZO4FwgXS5Z0s0JrVOaPwqYZJfWKkMJL6OYolSbGV mRShFgOFtizppOLIqbVnkzjQ5GaN7zQhWVgvM= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808100215w47101fe7t84b863cbe21c2e6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:15:44 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Just got this video into YouTube In-Reply-To: <000601c8fa73$cf2cec70$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808090536n450fb167kbaa2e57793ca9203@mail.gmail.com> <000601c8fa2e$328f4970$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <66f9cc1e0808090710q1859b4d9lf403366caee7bb3d@mail.gmail.com> <000601c8fa73$cf2cec70$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:15:45 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > Have you ever played with the Fernandes sustainor setup? It does have a > harmonics mode > where it jumps up an octave. I wonder how it would feel in comparison. I > love the idea of an fx loop on the sustainac c. Maybe an auto wah/envelope > filter would help > to free up the feet. Yes, I did a thorough shot-out of all systems for a guitar player magazine article two years ago. Personally I don't like the Fernandes as much as the Sustaniac C, but I know other players that are happy with the Fernandes. I borrowed a guitar with the Fernandes already mounted, that's a good way to find out "how it feels". My experience is that the Fernandes is "cleaner" and "less organic". That probably comes from the fact that the vibration feedback is transmitted magnetically. The Sustainiac C does it mechanically through the wood of the neck and of course that must color the process in some way. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 10:32:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30E773BF01; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 56323615/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.188.251 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.188.251 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiIFABJgnkhPTrz7/2dsb2JhbAAIilieS4NH X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,337,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="56323615" Message-ID: <489EC3B4.8070403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:32:20 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop V References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060132g3336eebbn69916f48dd8e0936@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Well, it's not that Matthias is intentionally secretive :-) Just that there's no point in getting excited over software that's not finished (and tested) yet. Raul Bonell wrote: > lost that talk on LD. > so then, no addons, > just an emulator .. > > is going to do loopwindowing (which i love) matthias? > or leave it, as mobius. > > just this one would make it worthy :-) yep, loop windowing will be in there. ...but think about it it's *software*. so it's not going to be like having one edp, it's going to mean having as many edps as your computer can handle. All of them synced...or not. ...and of course each one is stereo. ...and sound quality is as good as your audio interface. andy butler > > good morning per, > raul. > > > > 2008/8/6 Per Boysen > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > no, no, .. loop IV / a.k.a. loop4 inside my old plexi. > > just comenting on the message rick sent one of > > these days telling that matthias was working on a > > software (not for burning EPROMs, as i understood) > > loop V / a.k.a loop 5 > > > Hi Raul, > > Rick Walker was talking about a new software looping application for > computers, that Matthias Grob mentioned to the list that he is working > on. As I understood it, this software looper will be an adaption of > Loop 4 to the personal computer platform (rather than the EDP hardware > we know it from). > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 10:43:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6119F3BEFF; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" , "Leander Reininghaus" , "Matthias Ebbinghaus" Subject: listening devices Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:43:01 +0200 Message-ID: <003201c8fad5$dd6dd580$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acj61dyssSWpc98tRjCEukAI39fIRg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.19; VDF: 7.0.5.234) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:43:07 +0000 (UTC) http://www.oobject.com/category/incredible-listening-devices/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 11:07:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D196A3BEFA; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 378 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:07:00 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bacd56a7-4872-4157-ad03-db28da81f0eb_" X-Originating-IP: [84.13.157.32] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: mac sound card with augustus loop Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:00:41 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <489EC3B4.8070403@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060132g3336eebbn69916f48dd8e0936@mail.gmail.com> <489EC3B4.8070403@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2008 11:00:42.0441 (UTC) FILETIME=[54E7B390:01C8FAD8] Resent-Message-ID: <26_9nD.A.iTG.UvsnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:07:00 +0000 (UTC) --_bacd56a7-4872-4157-ad03-db28da81f0eb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody=2C=20 A friend of mine wants to get into looping. 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Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! = Try it Now! = --_bacd56a7-4872-4157-ad03-db28da81f0eb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 11:32:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55C533BEF8; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DR+xorTMu/4SyEBZWTQ7dRFtGuPCDorMZmThYleOvXM=; b=Q7iyCu44KkWE44ol75GRr78EfJJdFkIiIGFOkdKY9efp3UFxCjJC+m4ynU8ubOfAxh S1vxKSXPZ0w+SZ333F2OIllbO5qSeCU3osIlVFrNIFwYc3i92MUEg4w4DWTL3bJbaLtD u3kQhN+8Pcr7epm4PMAyde3MfrrM9DtQsIxA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=s1RvcbubpwSanIrR3q/9x4n8D/DTXS1vbsCGLAJFeiE7KoIrILlW8jMgwEfccJBXpC Lh2FUft7wWDOEXS7sJeQahv6EWK4RSLUChFqDNV4lLPnLLK7qXBe4qSK8oizB5sdFmC1 CkZEaAUeiufquuQBOgCRdvkCEBYQNG5+XyVzk= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808100432v3c3fe8f4l2d2f6aa82c7ed315@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:32:27 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mac sound card with augustus loop In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060132g3336eebbn69916f48dd8e0936@mail.gmail.com> <489EC3B4.8070403@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:32:28 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hi everybody, > A friend of mine wants to get into looping. She's mac based and might go > with augustus loop software. What we're looking for is a soundcard for her > saxophone for live work. Basically a 2 in 2 out will do, usb & a midi > interface. What's your experience? There are two scenarios here. 1) If she already owns a mic pre amp that she prefers. Then she could go with one of the least expensive firewire interfaces that supports line level. I dare to recommend the Echo Audiofire2 which BTW also has digital ports, since I sometimes use one myself. Over here I own a Presonus VXP analog mic pre amp with great filters, compressor and expander functionality and that analog box gives me a better sax sound than anything else I have tried. I used to bring it together with a line level computer audio interface but I don't do that anymore because it is uncomfortably big, being a normal rack mountable device. 2) If she needs also a mic pre amp. Then she could go with the little more expensive firewire interfaces that also offer built-in mic pre amps. I have an RME FireFace400 that is know for having good mic pre amps. But it doesn't sound as good as my analog VXP rack box mentioned above. Good enough though. There are some less expensive interfaces that also work well (MOTU Ultralite, ESI, TC Electronic Konnekt... and some more) but I can't recommend them since I have not used them but went directly for the FF400 because of mic pre amp fidelity reasons. Since she is not planning to run the Pro Tools software I would advice her to not buy any of the Digidesign supported interfaces (M-Audio etc). They are very good with Pro Tools but can be annoying with other software. 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  From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 13:02:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CD6A3BEFF; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:02:27 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for August 9, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <489EE6E3.8080802@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:02:33 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2008/080809.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #135 August 9, 2008. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early isses came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Syntonic Waves] One Step Closer Sequences No. 3 VA [Zyklus] Before the Oil Ran Sequences No. 3 Out VA [Bertrand] Fur De Lance Sequences No. 3 Shulze and Gerrard Liquid Coincidence 4 Farscapes (Synthetic Symphony) Nattefrost Destination Nowhere Transformation (Groove) Fringe Element Sarnoff Library 2008 Visceral Extrusion (none) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Dagobert Bohm Dreaming Strings Circle Around (Ozella) Marc Enfroy Unbounded Unbounded (none) VA [Dagobert Bohm] Stars The Sound Vol. 2 (Ozella) VA [Michael Schmitt] Behind the Sun The Sound Vol. 2 (Ozella) VA [Axel Schultheiss]Melody The Sound Vol. 2 (Ozella) Hilton FM Easy Listening Late Night Lounge (Intentcity) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Pinnacle The Life In A Year Meld (Everything To Excess) Pulse Oye Como Va Heartbeat (Fox's Den) Pulse Singer In a Heartbeat (Fox's Den) Rock'n'Roll Band Riverside The Same River Out of Myself (Laser's Edge) Matts Morgan Band Matts Jingle Heat Beat Live (Cuneiform) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. 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To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 13:49:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AEE33BEF6; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <012401c8faef$e49cfb00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: More Videos, featuring Per and Rick Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:49:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Richard Sales wrote: "saw a couple vids and they are VERY NICE! Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs. All around wonderful. And how 'bout that Rick Walker? Sheesh! I didn't know you played the tubs, Rick." Thanks a lot a for the compliment, Richard..................keep in mind that you were watching me trying very hard not to freak out that I was unable to use my custom looping rig on the very first gig of my 8 week European tour. I discovered after the gig that the phantom power button on my brand new endorsedment DTar mixer had gotten stuck between on and off, negating the entire signal of my whole rig......................lol, never made THAT mistake again for the rest of the tour. Love the DTar, by the way.............awesome and versatile and great sounding hi fi mixer with a tiny footprint. And yeah, This year I am celebrating my 42nd year as a trapset drummer. I've made my living for the last 30 years as a trapset drummer and multi-percussionist (with some liberal doses of record production thrown in for good measure). Though not my first instruments (I played piano for 2 years, cello for 6 months and clarinet for 5 years before beginning the drums) the drums were the first instruments that I chose (instead of my mother or father) and the first instrument I loved. I think I probably have more technical skill on drumset than on any instrument that I play now (I began earnestly playing other instruments about 13 years ago and now dabbel on dozens of different instruments). It's completely ironic that I got into my first national drum magazine (in a 6 page article in DRUM! Magazine last summer) as a found sound/live looping artist and NOT as a trapset drummer. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 14:30:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ABF83BEF1; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=cz67FuQXDFH5/ay4icy0TulRSt+jM9TSWf+UgMRIAWI=; b=XMGPWmsYVd7WbIVkVFfJt03KXZFZAdagtVrxlwc6rOjjD9qgMLCOlP4Sz+4ZBJDInC wprWl7Y4Q7kIZsW1F2sZxZxzW6d9J6vEp2P5WfUorwOvOhAISTI6hsIKZ4RG/RZ7HLe/ BGtp+AZ4OT1FACWjVaxKvL+j4Nx0SgfTRcaUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=YDtvIEqZwUgW73W/a/jwP+DMi2A8Fi6nHyfz9fqwUvB2nSdYz5mDAT1aRqb0C/cVZo XhVEZbZMBxt9rMj6m4u6ZiACP+QqSsnOT7GlE/74rlqJ6J+//QjS3LfqhYABAsj3EYLZ Nx2s0ZVXCCD9oT3esKwN2z79jMJ5f5BT0HpXw= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808100730i50b8b159n49259fd60d82cb5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:30:27 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Just got this video into YouTube In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808100215w47101fe7t84b863cbe21c2e6f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13041_28251006.1218378627587" References: <66f9cc1e0808090536n450fb167kbaa2e57793ca9203@mail.gmail.com> <000601c8fa2e$328f4970$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <66f9cc1e0808090710q1859b4d9lf403366caee7bb3d@mail.gmail.com> <000601c8fa73$cf2cec70$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <66f9cc1e0808100215w47101fe7t84b863cbe21c2e6f@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3fa4015396c1a900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:30:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13041_28251006.1218378627587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have the fernandez set-up in my baritione guitar, and I absolutely love it. It has issues, its NOT genuinely polyphonic, as one might think if one was coming from an ebow, there is always ONE string that wil take over and become the dominant note, not unlike feedback. It doesnt have the constant buzzing "its alive" feeling that the Sustainiac systems have. But speaking as someone who used to play at extreme volumes at one time, its DOES emulate THAT feeling. The way the strings really physically react as you press, is very like that "one the verge of feedback" feeling one gets stood next to a big marshall!! Soundwise, I love it, Im not too good at stopping the crunch as you lift your finger, tends to ring at the harmonics and fart at other positions, but its made me start to play predominately without huge quantity's of distortion, because I get the sustain (infinite actually) that i want, but the attack is still there, and there is some decay. I have it on almost all the time actually. Im not too au fait with the Sustainiac, just tried it a few times, but maybe Per is right about the fernandez being cleaner, but as for less organic, no no no.. Its wonderfull, it really make the guitar feel alive and pushing back at you. One EXTRA PLUS is that if I just switch it on and let it go.. after a few seconds of strings fighting for attention, its always the B string that takes over and becomes dominant. I NEVER used to play in B,(always A or E or D) but I tried B because of this, (thinking that if the guitar was alive its favorite key is B, so I better not argue with that) and now I have discovered the wonders of playing in B!! Now my favorite key! Drone on!! M On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > > > Have you ever played with the Fernandes sustainor setup? It does have a > > harmonics mode > > where it jumps up an octave. I wonder how it would feel in comparison. I > > love the idea of an fx loop on the sustainac c. Maybe an auto > wah/envelope > > filter would help > > to free up the feet. > > > Yes, I did a thorough shot-out of all systems for a guitar player > magazine article two years ago. Personally I don't like the Fernandes > as much as the Sustaniac C, but I know other players that are happy > with the Fernandes. I borrowed a guitar with the Fernandes already > mounted, that's a good way to find out "how it feels". My experience > is that the Fernandes is "cleaner" and "less organic". That probably > comes from the fact that the vibration feedback is transmitted > magnetically. The Sustainiac C does it mechanically through the wood > of the neck and of course that must color the process in some way. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_13041_28251006.1218378627587 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I have the fernandez set-up in my baritione guitar, and I absolutely love it. It has issues, its NOT genuinely polyphonic, as one might think if one was coming from an ebow, there is always ONE string that wil take over and become the dominant note, not unlike feedback. It doesnt have the constant buzzing "its alive" feeling that the Sustainiac systems have. But speaking as someone who used to play at extreme volumes at one time, its DOES emulate THAT feeling. The way the strings really physically react as you press, is very like that "one the verge of feedback" feeling one gets stood next to a big marshall!!
Soundwise, I love it, Im not too good at stopping the crunch as you lift your finger, tends to ring at the harmonics and fart at other positions, but its made me start to play predominately without huge quantity's of distortion, because I get the sustain (infinite actually) that i want, but the attack is still there, and there is some decay. I have it on almost all the time actually.

Im not too au fait with the Sustainiac, just tried it a few times, but maybe Per is right about the fernandez being cleaner, but as for less organic, no no no.. Its wonderfull, it really make the guitar feel alive and pushing back at you.

One EXTRA PLUS is that if I just switch it on and let it go.. after a few seconds of strings fighting for attention, its always the B string that takes over and becomes dominant. I NEVER used to play in B,(always A or E or D) but I tried B because of this, (thinking that if the guitar was alive its favorite key is B, so I better not argue with that) and now I have discovered the wonders of playing in B!! Now my favorite key!

Drone on!!

M

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> Have you ever played with the Fernandes sustainor setup? It does have a
> harmonics mode
> where it jumps up an octave. I wonder how it would feel in comparison. I
> love the idea of an fx loop on the sustainac c. Maybe an auto wah/envelope
> filter would help
> to free up the feet.


Yes, I did a thorough shot-out of all systems for a guitar player
magazine article two years ago. Personally I don't like the Fernandes
as much as the Sustaniac C, but I know other players that are happy
with the Fernandes. I borrowed a guitar with the Fernandes already
mounted, that's a good way to find out "how it feels". My experience
is that the Fernandes is "cleaner" and "less organic". That probably
comes from the fact that the vibration feedback is transmitted
magnetically. The Sustainiac C does it mechanically through the wood
of the neck and of course that must color the process in some way.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_13041_28251006.1218378627587-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 14:55:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE3AA3BEE7; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=07xHPmU/PfVzGbq/7hOpp54iir2aPM3aFvWGdVjbE6A=; b=iB54bOlckyOuzQacaowtlsEwH1W7o384OsqmSmOVrRuWWQ9dhKG4tCOIm+o58t1vsV gCt42zoqdnugXMado6famJWUkz8RijHTfUbxeePOqshhCdmj/1LnHRY6yz+SRyL6s/qi hL3nJ2pt7OGMofQjqXsK8KzwOwUiZOD1KzW10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=iERNky94UWw89TanD/yLeX+5A4nvnhTqA+1E4CO73oNhkw3hdWEf8FXUO7rYk/YJsn lHqJwAFXGcPXV4unbwxxKwBVZSCG3sLuD8o8KM6QhbnxubtLzVOnYulmCbnVLbp1Kcbc R57AWSe2jbqGTd653To7SDtwhHo6TTDalmeH4= Message-ID: <7aa53e300808100755o38aac9aam59b2855af7fb5175@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:55:00 -0400 From: "mike karnowski" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: best replacement for Digitech PDS 1002? In-Reply-To: <000801c8fa92$3c1f90d0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7aa53e300808090919s3cf54f26ye990f976844fb7e5@mail.gmail.com> <001201c8fa53$62be7e20$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <000801c8fa92$3c1f90d0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: <-r0DkB.A.sXD.GFwnIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the tips Jeff, I'll look into your recommendations. Cheers, -m On 8/9/08, Jeff Duke wrote: > I wrote: > > > > You might look at a X series "Digidelay" I have one and its pretty cool. > And cheap. > > http://www.zzounds.com/item--DGTDD > > > > Actually I just got it out and it does not have a mix control. It has an > effects level knob. So once you > > make a loop you have to reach down and twiddle. Also if you step on the > button to stop it clears the loop. No feedback. 4 sec loop. Its cool though > tap tempo and reverse delay. > > > > > > > After playing with this again for awhile I remembered the (IMHO) best > feature of this delay. With any delay mode and tap tempo engaged I put the > feedback anywhere short of full, play and tap up to 4 sec.. Then twist the > feedback knob to 100%, this engages the hold function. You can play along > and it doesn't get added to the loop. Lower it to less than 100% and add > more. I had to add a knob extension to the feedback control to make a "toe > controller". lol > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 15:11:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 671173BEF0; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=qcZMwolaYZRuztfn7JI9K8Nr8+ELWzX3W0RfGfW6QkA07hRNmp+L5YnZI1ThgwKAvqlQSG+OzptFrk5ScY6noQO1EGBuo9xwKWmF1VqjVqH7y/fCthYqt6GcmQW/kcjjNyRUE2H8iRnY3qkR4UE908zRHqzjX6/vHyMQNBbThKE= ; X-YMail-OSG: bO6jcEkVM1me.WBiPkuYsfIM7ZhbLpvxUnjFSLxp8Y6evNQ.DMF_QvaioNh5Gxj35uzugGZnRTYFfCT6wcuM9wYmJcjOJum8L6aqOe5bkN6Q3qLFCx6XG6E1sBKXIuTXJ7M- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000d01c8fafb$658799e0$4201a8c0@STUDIO1> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <012401c8faef$e49cfb00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: More Videos, featuring Per and Rick Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:11:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Very tasteful kit playing, Rick. We'll have to hook you up with a jam with your good self on drum kit next time you're in Ireland. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: More Videos, featuring Per and Rick > Richard Sales wrote: > "saw a couple vids and they are VERY NICE! > Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs. All around wonderful. And how 'bout > that Rick Walker? Sheesh! I didn't know you played the tubs, Rick." > > Thanks a lot a for the compliment, Richard..................keep in mind > that you were watching me trying very hard not to freak out > that I was unable to use my custom looping rig on the very first gig of my > 8 week European tour. I discovered after the gig that > the phantom power button on my brand new endorsedment DTar mixer had > gotten stuck between on and off, negating the entire signal > of my whole rig......................lol, never made THAT mistake again > for the rest of the tour. Love the DTar, by the way.............awesome > and versatile > and great sounding hi fi mixer with a tiny footprint. > > And yeah, This year I am celebrating my 42nd year as a trapset drummer. > I've made my living for the last > 30 years as a trapset drummer and multi-percussionist (with some liberal > doses of record production thrown in > for good measure). Though not my first instruments (I played piano for > 2 years, cello for 6 months and > clarinet for 5 years before beginning the drums) the drums were the first > instruments that I chose (instead of my mother or > father) and the first instrument I loved. I think I probably have more > technical skill on drumset than on any instrument that I play now (I began > earnestly playing other instruments about 13 years ago and now dabbel on > dozens of different instruments). > > It's completely ironic that I got into my first national drum magazine (in > a 6 page article in DRUM! Magazine last summer) > as a found sound/live looping artist and NOT as a trapset drummer. > > yours, Rick Walker > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release > Date: 09/08/2008 13:22 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 16:07:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC2913BEF0; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:07:14 EDT Subject: Re: More Videos, featureing Per and Rick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c18.40a3a0d8.35d06c32_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:07:11 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c18.40a3a0d8.35d06c32_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 8/9/08 11:26:50 AM, mark@markfrancombe.com writes: > rick walker per boysen=A0 & tellef ogrim >=20 > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrXVKqYf-S8 >=20 >=20 > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYAySrzSa7Hg >=20 >=20 i liked these second two vids the one posted earlier left some doubt in my=20 mind......rick is the HARDEST WORKING MAN in loop bizz!.....his newest book=20 "SHOWBIZ FROM THE SEAT OF MY PANTS" is going to be a great read, i've heard=20= that=20 it will be about IMPROVISATION.....:).....great music and i really liked mar= k's=20 camera work.....what did you use to film the sets mark?.....reloading all my= =20 cds into my erased i-tunes (FUN) i have been relistening to a ton of loop=20 music: LD COMPILLATIONS, CT COMPILLATIONS, and all the cds from so many tale= nted=20 loopfolken, now more and more movies, it's wonderful!.....what a=20 party!.....michael "one man, one oat!" 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In a message dated 8/9/08 11:26:50 AM, mark@markfrancombe.com writes:


rick walker per boyse= n=A0 & tellef ogrim

http://uk.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DbrXVKqYf-S8


http://uk.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DYAySrzSa7Hg



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(http://autos.= aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=3Daolaut00050000000017 ) --part1_c18.40a3a0d8.35d06c32_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 16:29:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABD033BEE6; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=aeTVGAF/vMEYUMlJAThIzZ8vPXKfqK10X2IkG67zNhs=; b=Fag8UoCGAP8Gxg4/VH+T1zxGmITSBdR32EdMhnCzU+9/wGzh4DR4q3TIrk+SSMzNU0 8yQKAZVdBCYEv+sfZZBFF8aiOnFQ/PAcG8+XDO8GJcZqUJV+MELe3VswpqPYiqr41Veu qd0mCHSreg9IeIjoeTm8ZONQqac9ZlD/w+PrI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=nbe+4F/3x09h23SqIkRkB3K36uGHZUV1jOOvw00rA8ZZHbXcem+KHiokF/9q5QHTtz PmDiq0kPGIFmOw7bZbF3FO545Mpx5yCto1yUIVVlXPk4mzgIXG2Ia+ovtofhwL2mpSzR qIkRES/9CYEo27oEbCc/Xsm3j/TSFkpMC84S8= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:29:38 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop V In-Reply-To: <489EC3B4.8070403@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_64128_17837547.1218385778838" References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060132g3336eebbn69916f48dd8e0936@mail.gmail.com> <489EC3B4.8070403@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:29:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_64128_17837547.1218385778838 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/10 andy butler > >> > yep, loop windowing will be in there. > this is really great news! time to upgrade my oldie oberheim :-) > > > > > > ...but think about it > it's *software*. > > so it's not going to be like having one edp, > it's going to mean having as many edps as your computer can handle. > All of them synced...or not. > > ...and of course each one is stereo. > > ...and sound quality is as good as your audio interface. > please... stop, stop ... or i'll not sleep tonight ;-) thanks so far for this refreshing news, andy. > > > andy butler > > > > > > > >> good morning per, >> raul. >> >> >> >> 2008/8/6 Per Boysen > >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Raul Bonell > > wrote: >> > no, no, .. loop IV / a.k.a. loop4 inside my old plexi. >> > just comenting on the message rick sent one of >> > these days telling that matthias was working on a >> > software (not for burning EPROMs, as i understood) >> > loop V / a.k.a loop 5 >> >> >> Hi Raul, >> >> Rick Walker was talking about a new software looping application for >> computers, that Matthias Grob mentioned to the list that he is working >> on. As I understood it, this software looper will be an adaption of >> Loop 4 to the personal computer platform (rather than the EDP hardware >> we know it from). >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> www.stockholm-athens.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra >> TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com >> > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_64128_17837547.1218385778838 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/10 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>

 


yep, loop windowing will be in there.


this is really great news!
time to upgrade my oldie oberheim :-)
 





...but think about it
it's *software*.

so it's not going to be like having one edp,
it's going to mean having as many edps as your computer can handle.
All of them synced...or not.

...and of course each one is stereo.

...and sound quality is as good as your audio interface.

please... stop, stop ... or i'll not sleep tonight ;-)


thanks so far for this refreshing news, andy.
 


andy butler







good morning per,
raul.



2008/8/6 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com <mailto:perboysen@gmail.com>>


   On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com
   <mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > no, no, .. loop IV / a.k.a. loop4 inside my old plexi.
    > just comenting on the message rick sent one of
    > these days telling that matthias was working on a
    > software (not for burning EPROMs, as i understood)
    > loop V / a.k.a loop 5


   Hi Raul,

   Rick Walker was talking about a new software looping application for
   computers, that Matthias Grob mentioned to the list that he is working
   on. As I understood it, this software looper will be an adaption of
   Loop 4 to the personal computer platform (rather than the EDP hardware
   we know it from).

   --
   Greetings from Sweden

   Per Boysen
   www.boysen.se <http://www.boysen.se> (Swedish)
   www.looproom.com <http://www.looproom.com> (international)

   www.myspace.com/perboysen
   www.stockholm-athens.com
   <http://www.myspace.com/perboysenwww.stockholm-athens.com>





--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_64128_17837547.1218385778838-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 17:13:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF0443BEE7; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 86895 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:13:30 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080808202449.53D973BF75@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20080808202449.53D973BF75@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9362B145-6D36-4545-A3FF-9DC26DA2CC97@lividinstruments.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Nyboer Subject: Re: New software looper Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:13:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi Loopers, I'm Peter Nyboer, programmer for Livid Instruments - fellow San Jose resident (San Josean? San Joser?) Tim Thompson let me know there was some talk here about Livid Looper. Thanks for checking it out. For the mac people, I thought I'd let you know that there was a problem with yesterday's release pointing to the wrong file, so I'd urge you to re-download the correct version from http://www.lividserver.com/dl/looper/LividLooper_1.0.dmg Sigh - these things are never as smooth as one would like! If you have issues, and as a first release, I'm sure there will be, feel free to post them on the forums at http://forums.lividinstruments.com/ There's a lot that I put in here to make it good for live looping. One feature I'd urge you to check out, besides the recording, is the sequencers that make it really easy to record and stack multiple looped "gestures" (parameter changes) for each audio loop. Things can get really addictive with that... Finally, this made ME laugh: > The text reads like a PR announcement from a software company > marketing exec who's possibly never used the software himself... I wrote that copy!! I am glad to know that I can apparently wear both hats of designer/developer as well as clueless PR hack :) Best, Pete. [apologies if this reached twice - I'm having some difficulty posting] From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 17:15:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A75CB3BEE7; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 56575953/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.188.251 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.188.251 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmkCACa/nkhPTrz7/2dsb2JhbAAIqFuDRw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,339,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="56575953" Message-ID: <489F222B.5010305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:15:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop V References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060132g3336eebbn69916f48dd8e0936@mail.gmail.com> <489EC3B4.8070403@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Raul Bonell wrote: > > > 2008/8/10 andy butler > > > > > > > yep, loop windowing will be in there. > > > > this is really great news! > time to upgrade my oldie oberheim :-) > > > not just yet, remember, software development always takes longer than expected. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 17:34:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3509B3BEE2; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Peter Nyboer Subject: re: smallest midi controller Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:34:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:34:21 +0000 (UTC) regarding JL Cooper Faderbaby FM3 - I have one of these that doesn't really seem to work I'd be happy to "sell" for the price of shipping. contact me offlist if you are interested. P. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 18:01:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6093C3BEE2; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <379A46D0-2279-4ABE-8F6D-D36050A2C116@lividinstruments.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Nyboer Subject: Re: smallest midi controller Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:01:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:01:59 +0000 (UTC) actually, let me restate that after a bit more testing. it does work, just not with the MIDISPORT 2x2, which doesn't provide enough power via MIDI. So, I would actually want a bit more than the shipping! Peter On Aug 10, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > regarding JL Cooper Faderbaby FM3 - I have one of these that > doesn't really seem to work I'd be happy to "sell" for the price of > shipping. > contact me offlist if you are interested. > > P. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 18:14:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E74743BEDD; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218392077; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=IFxmCABmvO34rf+ylzOotQzy32A=; b=UACTrk8nItlXlH3NS3fCSRCDoFDO/vJcSb/u+JAx12p8bBK6GQxS5F2r8cQrK9x2 jQMlUkUdb2iSUz9SxWA+Ol5zj1cLTSnq6Tv7mG2NviHIB6clxJVc6uJJR1N9gk91; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=deKM-WJZAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=DV7Hs9hu2tDuNdMTYmUA:9 a=hSeadPWplPIdArZHFWcA:7 a=8iEf9EA7AlkMQTUMWKOQy5GEv4gA:4 a=TyjDiX8iqUUA:10 a=hM5H0qCC1cEA:10 a=QIxH716MraYA:10 a=vViZfcZP9qwA:10 a=Kh8wvr666hQA:10 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=1HJPzAKOgYIA:10 a=f2NaAAVcle0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=dKFSZAqjruQA:10 a=hkapQdBNRzNG_HvT-bIA:9 a=mc9v8BoyjwPuZF_4X50A:7 a=oSiA0tnvVriNaErN_tUgCtnmioYA:4 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002501c8fb14$f26c2330$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <66f9cc1e0808090536n450fb167kbaa2e57793ca9203@mail.gmail.com> <000601c8fa2e$328f4970$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <66f9cc1e0808090710q1859b4d9lf403366caee7bb3d@mail.gmail.com> <000601c8fa73$cf2cec70$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <66f9cc1e0808100215w47101fe7t84b863cbe21c2e6f@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808100730i50b8b159n49259fd60d82cb5f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Just got this video into YouTube Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:14:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8FAF3.69957AA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:14:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8FAF3.69957AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow, your right! I just realized that B is an underused key and my = sustainor likes it! thanks! Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: Re: Just got this video into YouTube One EXTRA PLUS is that if I just switch it on and let it go.. after a = few seconds of strings fighting for attention, its always the B string = that takes over and becomes dominant. I NEVER used to play in B,(always = A or E or D) but I tried B because of this, (thinking that if the guitar = was alive its favorite key is B, so I better not argue with that) and = now I have discovered the wonders of playing in B!! Now my favorite key! Drone on!! M On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Per Boysen = wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: > > Have you ever played with the Fernandes sustainor setup? It does = have a > harmonics mode > where it jumps up an octave. I wonder how it would feel in = comparison. I > love the idea of an fx loop on the sustainac c. Maybe an auto = wah/envelope > filter would help > to free up the feet. Yes, I did a thorough shot-out of all systems for a guitar player magazine article two years ago. Personally I don't like the = Fernandes as much as the Sustaniac C, but I know other players that are happy with the Fernandes. I borrowed a guitar with the Fernandes already mounted, that's a good way to find out "how it feels". My experience is that the Fernandes is "cleaner" and "less organic". That probably comes from the fact that the vibration feedback is transmitted magnetically. The Sustainiac C does it mechanically through the wood of the neck and of course that must color the process in some way. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com --=20 www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no No virus found in this incoming message. 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wow, your right! I just realized that B = is an=20 underused key and my sustainor likes it!
 
thanks!
 
Jeff
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One EXTRA PLUS is that if I just switch it on and let = it go..=20 after a few seconds of strings fighting for attention, its always the = B string=20 that takes over and becomes dominant. I NEVER used to play in = B,(always A or E=20 or D) but I tried B because of this, (thinking that if the guitar was = alive=20 its favorite key is B, so I better not argue with that) and now I have = discovered the wonders of playing in B!! Now my favorite = key!

Drone=20 on!!

M

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:
On=20 Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
>
> Have you ever played with the Fernandes = sustainor=20 setup? It does have a
> harmonics mode
> where it jumps = up an=20 octave. I wonder how it would feel in comparison. I
> love the = idea of=20 an fx loop on the sustainac c. Maybe an auto wah/envelope
> = filter=20 would help
> to free up the feet.


Yes, I did a = thorough=20 shot-out of all systems for a guitar player
magazine article two = years=20 ago. Personally I don't like the Fernandes
as much as the = Sustaniac C,=20 but I know other players that are happy
with the Fernandes. I = borrowed a=20 guitar with the Fernandes already
mounted, that's a good way to = find out=20 "how it feels". My experience
is that the Fernandes is "cleaner" = and=20 "less organic". That probably
comes from the fact that the = vibration=20 feedback is transmitted
magnetically. The Sustainiac C does it=20 mechanically through the wood
of the neck and of course that must = color=20 the process in some way.

--
Greetings from=20 Sweden

Per Boysen
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------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C8FAF3.69957AA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 18:21:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67EC83BEDE; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=N7EUpf41Mz+AvH7Z2thM6Z4AFYxcs2p+pixGJcSGUcM=; b=nsN4FQU+Tj5wX5pdI1XSwV442RDZpZ0SZIyhdxnhsTZ4RKBTxa8RIn30a/KvmexrqC Rt+KOaNnVeuR2+l6jG0VfceDVFsUib8EcrrQAhlGO/4TbFWJlX3KWZYT3Vv1X2rO0y+Q 4l0LniCRLAlaIfTaRsb77ru5RHYgUPm2HUAhQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GUsUfluMRjhl79KOtRlMUqmzy7HpmWsXtiJms6SKyyy4kbRAGcI+gSSaftjBlVExtS gT9anI/R8gtD9NlofV5NH4Jnwo5pGB37LthckBd9eK/umdXmhc0wMdcEQ7yqHY27EpO3 QVmN3FMWVsP5jVFjeVp4iS/PCBvN73OeAuQJE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808101121t4baf69b6j5f87385e7f017870@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:21:58 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: B!!! It just rocks! (Re: Just got this video into YouTube) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:21:59 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > wow, your right! I just realized that B is an underused key and my sustainor > likes it! Things I have learned about B: - It is the favorite piano key of Fabio Anile. - It means good fingering on the alto flute. - It sucks on tenor sax. - It gives a low-but-not-too-low bass synth register for rock and pop productions (vocals, hard guitars and stuff alike...) - Good harmonics for minor key available on normally tuned guitar. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 18:29:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12A893BEDD; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=LOZOJC2+qusJQgQ134IZeLzvAQeYTAJaITR47Jbfgek=; b=hXsa7hmzYengCJBZPoIJb94z1U3tiJ5VLO2VwAjNCewErgODAlJYPpzXxXdrteppDI SdoKonTDQu2wVdq6JQGHxLIzJaYnRcVubKwmynNsUbCZ/SPV+Dqr8PGxpGI1QeOPSRuW TXnwW5taW3D7ec9gxssz0oiP5zYx8+Tqo8t1E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FawFPSoHuEW0j4+PsUnICTLxoth2nVk0hEBdlU+CuTRDlm/Aeljvg3BI2nOAUqSGja 2qhknFezCYMH1QwRdgWK5eUkeisVZMJp+5a8/EZ0lhh5gHP6XqT79Gh8IMGvgKk8Nypl k0hr5YnfrqHsTDfUVnd9HHFZORvD9NkxEXKv8= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:29:10 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: B!!! It just rocks! (Re: Just got this video into YouTube) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808101121t4baf69b6j5f87385e7f017870@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_46535_10965155.1218392950357" References: <66f9cc1e0808101121t4baf69b6j5f87385e7f017870@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:29:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_46535_10965155.1218392950357 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I guess you guys never back any singer-songwriters. They're always capoing up two frets and fingering in A... On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > wow, your right! I just realized that B is an underused key and my > sustainor > > likes it! > > ------=_Part_46535_10965155.1218392950357 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I guess you guys never back any singer-songwriters.  They're always capoing up two frets and fingering in A...

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> wow, your right! I just realized that B is an underused key and my sustainor
> likes it!


------=_Part_46535_10965155.1218392950357-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 18:38:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7210F3BEDF; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=P8WdTtKRA/EICyQ3wsfRKZVNbzI03CmFKlU1/LXzLSI=; b=A32EBXcnYRUj4JK9Y9P1Wxm0JC2CWmzQ18vIGuRmYTmWV8VToGQGx20d/KgfRhH8nv NUugsKzS2P0D2SzHNBgncOfh3fZjAvccZMudq0/xhst8lInVkhiT5x1qwuIIXwRq0nOg FVE86DZGm3Vq6QkUlNr6H0vIqUr4k5E7btGq8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=jtt7MITpw8ozXFtKKJwZjQIIzp6gNvnjQTBdmXFknzx8XWk+g7/FpEY6iIi93CP4Eg flIRtG4nf2F4HHDXlleeLa2ya+Lt5iaMcdZpunPjyGvaJ25fQIEE13F3rQY76mZEawPp svicpdhzJrODz/ml1BGmok4pNfw6/v7bsgCEc= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808101138m6850e672tdec4d0eab51d6855@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:38:50 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: B!!! It just rocks! (Re: Just got this video into YouTube) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808101121t4baf69b6j5f87385e7f017870@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <25WsfD.A.3i.7WznIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:38:51 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > I guess you guys never back any singer-songwriters. They're always capoing > up two frets and fingering in A... I've been backing quite a lot of singer-songwriters, even gold selling folks. "Two frets up and fingering in A" equals B in my book. And I think B is a good key for backing on a guitar; you can use both the the open B and E string for playing two- or three string melody licks that is both covering the chord changes and working as comments on the vocal phases for variation. B is guitar friendly key. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 19:18:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC9503BED9; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=x1s96sT/YPFaaa7xJWQ6jb3SmCu6EwIIP1peUOnmQeo=; b=fZFVbgFwAEClMdjg4S5FubcKDcHRNTJc8rltFQiJTc8S5uLAtHpNAGoz0/zlkbSEH0 axgqRDmCRKJsrsB+XK9IVuqIGIAKFgxnWtfS+wiBQt/gpXa5rICtRp1YwPKdBa2Ybn6J yomO11hz5gE/ck0lVMnlM40CBlR0mv5elOouY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=n408xomemK41udOrKEN5yFT/7FpYAVkZknExPqShM1uxqow01h/wzPLaY2TSrw90QZ FJPDut4Dv0nD/aNj/TrUQFv4hsC66WxiYoIlXBmi6Z4rsMOcxd7eebGPPWy6PMEpgnXD q5qmxs2tVa2AUmYb7N5y+7GfcmOgo2YVfA1mo= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808101218l35aaabd4s22eb6f6e9410f986@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:18:06 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Videos, featureing Per and Rick In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13680_6022620.1218395886030" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: ad7f171ac7a35db4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:18:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13680_6022620.1218395886030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > ...great music and i really liked mark's camera work.....what did you use > to film the sets mark?..... Thanks!! I was using a Panasonic HVX200. recording onto P2 cards. I only wish i had had my 2 32 gb cards when I did the gig, as I had to delete a few things as I went along, no time to dump to the mac. The Oslo gig was recorded at regular DV 720 576 PAL, but anamorphic (hence the squash that happens on YouTube) it should have been re-encoded before uplard to get the proper wide screen ration. The Gotenburg show (posted earlier by Per) was recorded on HD. But I re-rendered it to regular DV before I sent it to Per (and Rick, but I guess it didnt turn up yet mate?)because the HD requires a special codec (plus it wouldnt fit on a DVD ha ha!) -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_13680_6022620.1218395886030 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

...great music and i really liked mark's camera work.....what did you use to film the sets mark?.....

Thanks!! I was using  a Panasonic  HVX200. recording onto P2 cards. I only wish i had had my 2 32 gb cards when I did the gig, as I had to delete a few things as I went along, no time to dump to the mac.

The Oslo gig was recorded at regular DV 720 576 PAL, but anamorphic (hence the squash that happens on YouTube) it should have been re-encoded before uplard to get the proper wide screen ration. The Gotenburg show (posted earlier by Per) was recorded on HD. But I re-rendered it to regular DV before I sent it to Per (and Rick, but I guess it didnt turn up yet mate?)because the HD requires a special codec (plus it wouldnt fit on a DVD ha ha!)

--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_13680_6022620.1218395886030-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 19:23:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBD543BEDD; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ae01c8fb1e$a7145f60$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <66f9cc1e0808101121t4baf69b6j5f87385e7f017870@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: B!!! It just rocks! (Re: Just got this video into YouTube) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:22:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19nwKEiAne3SvWa+JyD4PIJqvazdSg3UUg5AxH RYivn/D/LO5r17fx7lrBLSNHTQzFLUPQbxCJSTw43GbmsATlMF 9o3ukg+grB25wCXU0kRx2/ibgaboXj4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:23:05 +0000 (UTC) > - It means good fingering on the alto flute. guess you're talkin b minor? > - It sucks on tenor sax. that's riiight - but even worse: the much dreaded guitarist-induced BLUES IN E becomes F sharp for us. and Db for the alto saxes. no frets for us, just awkward fingerings... tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 19:28:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAD223BED9; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ecd8e409-d2a1-4f67-ba2a-bacbab04e9d1_" X-Originating-IP: [89.240.90.153] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: mac sound card with augustus loop Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:28:25 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808100432v3c3fe8f4l2d2f6aa82c7ed315@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0808051140x6aec3864seae728f2e1014c7d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0808051302r7306b52fg4e417491c75e6283@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808051313hd29374i9c06a9ba6ffcc482@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808060132g3336eebbn69916f48dd8e0936@mail.gmail.com> <489EC3B4.8070403@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0808100432v3c3fe8f4l2d2f6aa82c7ed315@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2008 19:28:26.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[42A75680:01C8FB1F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) --_ecd8e409-d2a1-4f67-ba2a-bacbab04e9d1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you so much Per - I will pass your experience on to my friend. I'd fo= rgotten how daunting it all is when you're new to this game :-) Lop on G >=20 >=20 > There are two scenarios here. >=20 > 1) If she already owns a mic pre amp that she prefers. > Then she could go with one of the least expensive firewire interfaces > that supports line level. I dare to recommend the Echo Audiofire2 > which BTW also has digital ports=2C since I sometimes use one myself. > Over here I own a Presonus VXP analog mic pre amp with great filters=2C > compressor and expander functionality and that analog box gives me a > better sax sound than anything else I have tried. I used to bring it > together with a line level computer audio interface but I don't do > that anymore because it is uncomfortably big=2C being a normal rack > mountable device. >=20 > 2) If she needs also a mic pre amp. > Then she could go with the little more expensive firewire interfaces > that also offer built-in mic pre amps. I have an RME FireFace400 that > is know for having good mic pre amps. But it doesn't sound as good as > my analog VXP rack box mentioned above. Good enough though. There are > some less expensive interfaces that also work well (MOTU Ultralite=2C > ESI=2C TC Electronic Konnekt... and some more) but I can't recommend > them since I have not used them but went directly for the FF400 > because of mic pre amp fidelity reasons. >=20 > Since she is not planning to run the Pro Tools software I would advice > her to not buy any of the Digidesign supported interfaces (M-Audio > etc). They are very good with Pro Tools but can be annoying with other > software. Augustus Loop is available as AU and VST=2C as far as I know > not yet as an RTAS plug-in either (the Pro Tools format). >=20 > --=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg=92s & Live Search=20 http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/= --_ecd8e409-d2a1-4f67-ba2a-bacbab04e9d1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you so much Per - I will pass your experience on to my friend. I'd fo= rgotten how daunting it all is when you're new to this game :-)

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>=3B Greetings from Sweden
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>=3B Per= Boysen
>=3B www.boysen.se (Swedish)
>=3B www.looproom.com (inter= national)
>=3B www.myspace.com/perboysen
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Click here to WIN! = --_ecd8e409-d2a1-4f67-ba2a-bacbab04e9d1_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 19:29:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB02C3BED3; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VoDqFypetLdxSNQ7ipKYhE1cQVpjDg2t6GVzpMIrcH8=; b=e4OsOQaNjBYjy9Olxn5jUbzftqH/KqEbHhHSdoH0tHdlkNHIv9FRif4ZnHVmBdtSqH GtnHjslyMNagkKy8rEB50z67qTxC4mhMSUWoSIFKWrb64hLeWWCxxn3qTPj7cZqk9yz8 ROcjPTQ3v/1yqs/aZuuMiV/M6D7IbXJjhZ7EM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=oI2qPtPv96dJtrRnT5nTo/GLtrFKKxeiYaIwfrE1jJDXF+Yl80r5gcnB6fOQpma765 OCQ7rY0zJt3CndV5O4Douca76ZGLZtiNHsHP0XQA6hN0rBDxXcbLnCqJEimpL93RTBZ+ B/CBAlKZm5SSFQkOx2gutP+wx2uEu2zu/4bOU= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808101229y241f7622m91490141fe70d07a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:29:37 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Videos, featureing Per and Rick In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808101218l35aaabd4s22eb6f6e9410f986@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0808101218l35aaabd4s22eb6f6e9410f986@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8Z0Ry.A.dQC.iG0nIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:29:38 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 9:18 PM, mark francombe wrote: > > But I re-rendered it to regular DV > before I sent it to Per (and Rick, but I guess it didnt turn up yet > mate?) Maybe it got "tagged as suspect" and stored at a secret place? That is what happened to my tenor sax on SF airport ;-)) Luckily I located it ran to its rescue only twenty minutes before "object being transported away for termination". Boy, was I lucky that day. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 19:38:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DFD43BEC2; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OE1hlt6VzWvgG75mRRw0HUU5TpnPqAifudT9zGx5YGc=; b=QmKDn2rWpPk+fq52nbL+0fJKBcZLQ2zr72FcMRA2w0u7LFOps2HWWCyKqhLFknj0/Z 0rEDDFgP1yL16I8oTVvWTh4wMTUgN7U2rReQTkEKpHd/Vn9UI4jlZoPLBaEUdSDB8LdN Z+gI/rNMEwFzJcPw3Kpt3VUSrdLgeXW0QUjxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Kb/TSnYMUqWV0RAoWcW/d4IioUa5IunAIh3i4zHcPFaSrdasZyajVnTMSmDYwdQ3sR JXlIlPwx687pRaRzkfMszFlfyVnqrg57h0z1C4oQS93dqVwWqh62nDSNFjVlmE8PG2hw 6+oyP87rrrI18zkT+EyqT4SKowjtPLK++EZ9I= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808101238od2d9f21m2fe55519e25fbe49@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:38:10 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: B!!! It just rocks! (Re: Just got this video into YouTube) In-Reply-To: <00ae01c8fb1e$a7145f60$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808101121t4baf69b6j5f87385e7f017870@mail.gmail.com> <00ae01c8fb1e$a7145f60$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:38:11 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > >> - It means good fingering on the alto flute. > > guess you're talkin b minor? Yes, of course! I just didn't want to confuse the guitar biased thread with such details. > >> - It sucks on tenor sax. > > that's riiight - but even worse: the much dreaded guitarist-induced BLUES IN > E becomes F sharp for us. > and Db for the alto saxes. > no frets for us, just awkward fingerings... Well, there's always the bar... and I can't stand the tone of the alto model anyway. August Sax should have maculated it already at the drawing desk. ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 22:51:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B6533BE7E; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=xoBToFDJVWqLct+1kXR+0kTiaiUu/W55smmfcj7C8HY=; b=Y44N7tM8UjwQB4P6uigjWsDRdVKF3BC6w7RHyUiRCCP6TN84Pk4EJnAm/m7J78gJqy GuKkcoG2WpaDeeBuzcj8AIi3WSFPA2xfCuYxmab4XPRVKaMC25R2GQQoRR2ayx9TBJLS TlCPUJPaxRdOabjb+iehR+/gLY95NSqEZO7zo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Ae7SCU/KOwfWo7Tb7jLRdk0tMj43WxjW3FFtJK202btIV42aVFGFv2z+D0gYf9IikN ZvWcv1RJTFlNpsfrcqTUJUb1sh1CRqFdVe2OFy7b1ehWEoJviKx1fmltahMzdj2TTgXG lHsAWSMmvZQfuyLRv7LTXG/pSsEIkIy6H31sE= Message-ID: <7d7aee0c0808101551s2ca80d53r410a3f53faadad3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:51:33 -0400 From: "Aaron S." To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Akai Headrush Reliability MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_71005_6865425.1218408693713" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:51:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_71005_6865425.1218408693713 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline So, I purchased the Akai Headrush about nine months ago. I love the hell out of this pedal, and plan on using it for years to come. However, I have come upon one quirk in its operation: the left switch seems to work only about thirty-five percent of the time... I.e., three times out of ten, I hit the left switch, and it starts my recorded loop for a split second, then cuts out, and I have to re-hit it. This started happening mere weeks after I bought it. It's worth noting that I play fairly heavy indie rock, so I'm probably stomping harder than I should. Does this sound like a hardware issue? Sadly, I know next to nothing about replacing switches and other such operations... but I think the pedal itself is still under warranty. Has anyone else had switch problems -- not only with this unit, but with any similarly-designed switches (e.g., the Line 6 DL-4)? Any and all suggestions would be very helpful. Thanks, in advance. This is my first post to the Looper's Delight list, so please be kind. If there are previous topics that deal with this issue, kindly link me to them. Aaron S. ephemere.66@gmail.com ------=_Part_71005_6865425.1218408693713 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
So, I purchased the Akai Headrush about nine months ago. I love the hell out of this pedal, and plan on using it for years to come. However, I have come upon one quirk in its operation: the left switch seems to work only about thirty-five percent of the time... I.e., three times out of ten, I hit the left switch, and it starts my recorded loop for a split second, then cuts out, and I have to re-hit it. This started happening mere weeks after I bought it.

It's worth noting that I play fairly heavy indie rock, so I'm probably stomping harder than I should. Does this sound like a hardware issue? Sadly, I know next to nothing about replacing switches and other such operations... but I think the pedal itself is still under warranty.

Has anyone else had switch problems -- not only with this unit, but with any similarly-designed switches (e.g., the Line 6 DL-4)? Any and all suggestions would be very helpful.

Thanks, in advance. This is my first post to the Looper's Delight list, so please be kind. If there are previous topics that deal with this issue, kindly link me to them.

Aaron S.
ephemere.66@gmail.com
------=_Part_71005_6865425.1218408693713-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 23:31:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B87B63BE7E; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AXPNaMV1fKgE+23D11Un1g)" Message-id: <4269728A-D340-4CB1-8EAA-90199B79C32D@mac.com> From: Toby G To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-reply-to: <7d7aee0c0808101551s2ca80d53r410a3f53faadad3b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5A347) Subject: Re: Akai Headrush Reliability Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:30:34 -0700 References: <7d7aee0c0808101551s2ca80d53r410a3f53faadad3b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-_GNaD.A.naC.kp3nIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:31:48 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_AXPNaMV1fKgE+23D11Un1g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Mine has worked flawlessy T --at the peak of the disco outfreakage... On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:51 PM, "Aaron S." wrote: > So, I purchased the Akai Headrush about nine months ago. I love the > hell out of this pedal, and plan on using it for years to come. > However, I have come upon one quirk in its operation: the left > switch seems to work only about thirty-five percent of the time... > I.e., three times out of ten, I hit the left switch, and it starts > my recorded loop for a split second, then cuts out, and I have to re- > hit it. This started happening mere weeks after I bought it. > > It's worth noting that I play fairly heavy indie rock, so I'm > probably stomping harder than I should. Does this sound like a > hardware issue? Sadly, I know next to nothing about replacing > switches and other such operations... but I think the pedal itself > is still under warranty. > > Has anyone else had switch problems -- not only with this unit, but > with any similarly-designed switches (e.g., the Line 6 DL-4)? Any > and all suggestions would be very helpful. > > Thanks, in advance. This is my first post to the Looper's Delight > list, so please be kind. If there are previous topics that deal with > this issue, kindly link me to them. > > Aaron S. > ephemere.66@gmail.com --Boundary_(ID_AXPNaMV1fKgE+23D11Un1g) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Mine has worked flawlessy

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--at the peak of the disco outfreakage...


On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:51 PM, "Aaron S." <ephemere.66@gmail.com> wrote:

So, I purchased the Akai Headrush about nine months ago. I love the hell out of this pedal, and plan on using it for years to come. However, I have come upon one quirk in its operation: the left switch seems to work only about thirty-five percent of the time... I.e., three times out of ten, I hit the left switch, and it starts my recorded loop for a split second, then cuts out, and I have to re-hit it. This started happening mere weeks after I bought it.

It's worth noting that I play fairly heavy indie rock, so I'm probably stomping harder than I should. Does this sound like a hardware issue? Sadly, I know next to nothing about replacing switches and other such operations... but I think the pedal itself is still under warranty.

Has anyone else had switch problems -- not only with this unit, but with any similarly-designed switches (e.g., the Line 6 DL-4)? Any and all suggestions would be very helpful.

Thanks, in advance. This is my first post to the Looper's Delight list, so please be kind. If there are previous topics that deal with this issue, kindly link me to them.

Aaron S.
ephemere.66@gmail.com
--Boundary_(ID_AXPNaMV1fKgE+23D11Un1g)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 10 23:38:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6F653BE85; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 373 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:38:43 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 151494.64829.bm@omp210.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Nz3jTtWmCnaT8QbcxWohEOIhDNtaTS7QKPbS883tfOlf9uF21H3OG+1BFIlASNmBhl2SfJWQ0w/xVJp6CC74PICqAZG3nOU/Z5jIJoNu0+RyUVvTol3GQvzjkwTxyHx9PTQhLhNeRXbPf9BUlsT+TqOVVbCMmmi1ZJziqUxIs2o=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:32:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Akai Headrush Reliability To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7d7aee0c0808101551s2ca80d53r410a3f53faadad3b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <55890.30325.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi Aaron, That's definitely not normal behavior for the Headrush. I've had mine for about nine years and it's been very dependable. (It's the original version, and I got it right after they first came out.) If yours is indeed still under warranty, that might be the best option before opening it up. Several years ago I did remove the nuts and washers to the footswitches and put a small rubber o-ring under each of the washers, then tightened them down. This wasn't due to any sort of intermittent electrical condition, though; I was just trying to make the noisy switches a little bit quieter. I stomp on them pretty hard too. :) I HAVE had a problem similar to the one you describe with my DL-4's reverse switch on occasion... -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Aaron S. wrote: > From: Aaron S. > Subject: Akai Headrush Reliability > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 6:51 PM > So, I purchased the Akai Headrush about nine months ago. I > love the hell out > of this pedal, and plan on using it for years to come. > However, I have come > upon one quirk in its operation: the left switch seems to > work only about > thirty-five percent of the time... I.e., three times out of > ten, I hit the > left switch, and it starts my recorded loop for a split > second, then cuts > out, and I have to re-hit it. This started happening mere > weeks after I > bought it. > > It's worth noting that I play fairly heavy indie rock, > so I'm probably > stomping harder than I should. Does this sound like a > hardware issue? Sadly, > I know next to nothing about replacing switches and other > such operations... > but I think the pedal itself is still under warranty. > > Has anyone else had switch problems -- not only with this > unit, but with any > similarly-designed switches (e.g., the Line 6 DL-4)? Any > and all suggestions > would be very helpful. > > Thanks, in advance. This is my first post to the > Looper's Delight list, so > please be kind. If there are previous topics that deal with > this issue, > kindly link me to them. > > Aaron S. > ephemere.66@gmail.com From support@cuna.com Mon Aug 11 02:26:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 764 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:26:05 UTC Received: from mail.innovativeseo.com (www.cheappremiumtickets.com [66.230.78.12]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBC93BE77; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([24.138.20.109]) by mail.innovativeseo.com (IceWarp 9.1.0) with ASMTP id RKY39119; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:13:19 -0400 Reply-To: From: "CUNA" Subject: Your Credit Union Rewards You Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:13:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20080811022605.CCBC93BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 03:42:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA4A03BE7B; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f0808090826m1f55cf7bq7059f707f8bd5905@mail.gmail.com> <791a15e1a6e7c969a932e5ffd11cea97@glasswing.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--399212428 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: More Videos, featureing Per and Rick Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:42:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <7kkLK.A.VK.xU7nIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:42:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--399212428 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yeah I have a bit of history with the Dead. When Brett died I was=20 auditioned to be the new keyboardist and got a nice love letter from=20 Cameron etc and thought I had the job. Oops! Didn't work out. That's=20= good because I don't really consider myself a keyboardist... although I=20= do play. Plus I don't wanna die. Their keyboardists seem to have some kind of=20 spell over 'em or something. Then I wrote music for their last Chinese New YEars Show (with my=20 ancient friend Jay Yarnall) at Oakland Auditorium I think it was. that=20= was fun. I'm really happy my life has gone the way it has. I think if I'd=20 gotten the gig it would have screwed me up. I really liked what Per, Rick and the other fellow were doing. Very cool richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 9-Aug-08, at 9:38 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > oh..... damn!=A0 yes!!!!!!!=A0 this is amazing! :p > > < Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs> > you may enjoy this Grateful Dead album.=A0 2 CD's of a montage of one=20= > song (Dark Star) over all the years... the only album to feature every=20= > band member!=A0 Melt down was the key word there! :D=A0=A0=A0=A0 ^|>^m > Mirror Ashes > Transitive Axis > > > CD 1: Transitive Axis > Novature (Formless Nights Fall) > =A0 > > Pouring Velvet > =A0 > > In Revolving Ash Light > =A0 > > Clouds Cast > =A0 > > Through > =A0 > > Fault Forces > =A0 > > The Phil Zone > =A0 > > La Estrella Oscura > =A0 > > Recedes (While We Can) > =A0 > > CD 2: Mirror Ashes > Transilience > =A0 > > 73rd Star Bridge Sonata > =A0 > > Cease Tone Beam > =A0 > > The Speed Of Space > =A0 > > Dark Matter Problem / Every Leaf Is Turning > =A0 > > Foldback Time > > > On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Richard Sales =20= > wrote: >> saw a couple vids and they are VERY NICE! >> >> Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs. =A0All around wonderful. =A0And=20= >> how 'bout that Rick Walker? =A0Sheesh! =A0I didn't know you played = the=20 >> tubs, Rick. >> >> Sweet in all directions >> >> richard sales >> glassWing farm and studio >> vancouver island, b.c. >> www.glassWing.com =A0 =A0 www.richardsales.com >> www.hayleysales.com =A0 =A0 www.joannesales.com >> www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com >> www.broombusters.org >> >> On 9-Aug-08, at 8:26 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> >>> And talking of videos, here are some more... Also filmed by me,=20 >>> (although not posted by me) also on Ricks Euro Tour... >>> These are: >>> >>> rick walker per boysen=A0 & tellef ogrim >>> >>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrXVKqYf-S8 >>> >>> >>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYAySrzSa7Hg >>> >>> -- >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.looop.no --Apple-Mail-6--399212428 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah I have a bit of history with the Dead. When Brett died I was auditioned to be the new keyboardist and got a nice love letter from Cameron etc and thought I had the job. Oops! Didn't work out.=20 That's good because I don't really consider myself a keyboardist... although I do play.=20 Plus I don't wanna die. Their keyboardists seem to have some kind of spell over 'em or something. =20 Then I wrote music for their last Chinese New YEars Show (with my ancient friend Jay Yarnall) at Oakland Auditorium I think it was.=20 that was fun.=20 I'm really happy my life has gone the way it has. I think if I'd gotten the gig it would have screwed me up. =20 I really liked what Per, Rick and the other fellow were doing. =20 Very cool Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C =20 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com =20 www.broombusters.org On 9-Aug-08, at 9:38 PM, ^|>^m wrote: oh..... damn!=A0 yes!!!!!!!=A0 this is amazing! :p << Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs> you may enjoy this Grateful Dead album.=A0 2 CD's of a montage of one song (Dark Star) over all the years... the only album to feature every band member!=A0 Melt down was the key word there! :D=A0=A0=A0=A0 ^|>^m 0000,0000,EEEEMirror Ashes 0000,0000,EEEETransitive Axis CD 1: Transitive Axis FFFF,0000,0000Novature (Formless Nights = Fall) =A0 FFFF,0000,0000Pouring Velvet =A0 FFFF,0000,0000In Revolving Ash Light =A0 FFFF,0000,0000Clouds Cast =A0 FFFF,0000,0000Through =A0 FFFF,0000,0000Fault Forces =A0 FFFF,0000,0000The Phil Zone =A0 FFFF,0000,0000La Estrella Oscura =A0 FFFF,0000,0000Recedes (While We Can) =A0 CD 2: Mirror Ashes FFFF,0000,0000Transilience =A0 FFFF,0000,000073rd Star Bridge Sonata =A0 FFFF,0000,0000Cease Tone Beam =A0 FFFF,0000,0000The Speed Of Space =A0 FFFF,0000,0000Dark Matter Problem / Every Leaf Is Turning =A0 FFFF,0000,0000Foldback Time On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Richard Sales <<0000,0000,EEEErichard@glasswing.com> wrote: saw a couple vids and they are VERY NICE! Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs. =A0All around wonderful. =A0And = how 'bout that Rick Walker? =A0Sheesh! =A0I didn't know you played the tubs, Rick. Sweet in all directions 8888,8888,8888 richard sales 8888,8888,8888 glassWing farm and studio 8888,8888,8888 vancouver island, b.c. = 0000,0000,EEEEwww.glassWing.com8888,8888,8888 =A0 =A0 = 0000,0000,EEEEwww.richardsales.com = 0000,0000,EEEEwww.hayleysales.com8888,8888,8888 =A0 =A0 = 0000,0000,EEEEwww.joannesales.com 0000,0000,EEEEwww.blueberryfieldsfarm.com 0000,0000,EEEEwww.broombusters.org On 9-Aug-08, at 8:26 AM, mark francombe wrote: And talking of videos, here are some more... Also filmed by me, (although not posted by me) also on Ricks Euro Tour... 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 04:11:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71A373BE81; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2106 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:11:15 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <012401c8faef$e49cfb00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> References: <012401c8faef$e49cfb00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--399604949 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: More Videos, featuring Per and Rick Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:36:03 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:11:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--399604949 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Well I thought you did great. No looper needed! Good old fashion jazz drumming at it's beast! Keep it up richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 10-Aug-08, at 6:49 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Richard Sales wrote: > "saw a couple vids and they are VERY NICE! > Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs. All around wonderful. And how > 'bout that Rick Walker? Sheesh! I didn't know you played the tubs, > Rick." > > Thanks a lot a for the compliment, Richard..................keep in > mind that you were watching me trying very hard not to freak out > that I was unable to use my custom looping rig on the very first gig > of my 8 week European tour. I discovered after the gig that > the phantom power button on my brand new endorsedment DTar mixer had > gotten stuck between on and off, negating the entire signal > of my whole rig......................lol, never made THAT mistake > again for the rest of the tour. Love the DTar, by the > way.............awesome and versatile > and great sounding hi fi mixer with a tiny footprint. > > And yeah, This year I am celebrating my 42nd year as a trapset > drummer. I've made my living for the last > 30 years as a trapset drummer and multi-percussionist (with some > liberal doses of record production thrown in > for good measure). Though not my first instruments (I played piano > for 2 years, cello for 6 months and > clarinet for 5 years before beginning the drums) the drums were the > first instruments that I chose (instead of my mother or > father) and the first instrument I loved. I think I probably have > more technical skill on drumset than on any instrument that I play now > (I began earnestly playing other instruments about 13 years ago and > now dabbel on dozens of different instruments). > > It's completely ironic that I got into my first national drum magazine > (in a 6 page article in DRUM! Magazine last summer) > as a found sound/live looping artist and NOT as a trapset drummer. > > yours, Rick Walker --Apple-Mail-5--399604949 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Well I thought you did great. No looper needed! Good old fashion jazz drumming at it's beast! Keep it up Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 10-Aug-08, at 6:49 AM, Rick Walker wrote: Richard Sales wrote: "saw a couple vids and they are VERY NICE! Reminded me of the Dead's melt downs. All around wonderful. And how 'bout that Rick Walker? Sheesh! I didn't know you played the tubs, Rick." Thanks a lot a for the compliment, Richard..................keep in mind that you were watching me trying very hard not to freak out that I was unable to use my custom looping rig on the very first gig of my 8 week European tour. I discovered after the gig that the phantom power button on my brand new endorsedment DTar mixer had gotten stuck between on and off, negating the entire signal of my whole rig......................lol, never made THAT mistake again for the rest of the tour. Love the DTar, by the way.............awesome and versatile and great sounding hi fi mixer with a tiny footprint. And yeah, This year I am celebrating my 42nd year as a trapset drummer. I've made my living for the last 30 years as a trapset drummer and multi-percussionist (with some liberal doses of record production thrown in for good measure). Though not my first instruments (I played piano for 2 years, cello for 6 months and clarinet for 5 years before beginning the drums) the drums were the first instruments that I chose (instead of my mother or father) and the first instrument I loved. I think I probably have more technical skill on drumset than on any instrument that I play now (I began earnestly playing other instruments about 13 years ago and now dabbel on dozens of different instruments). It's completely ironic that I got into my first national drum magazine (in a 6 page article in DRUM! Magazine last summer) as a found sound/live looping artist and NOT as a trapset drummer. yours, Rick Walker --Apple-Mail-5--399604949-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 05:12:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B15863BE7B; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE:a bit OT-- B!!! It just rocks! (Re: Just got this video into YouTube) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:12:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acj7IKB7AM7F7eiRTmyhkbTSho5yYAATsqRQ In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808101238od2d9f21m2fe55519e25fbe49@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Message-Id: <20080811051219.5A1FC3BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:12:19 +0000 (UTC) One of the great discoveries of my cornet-playing days was pulling the tuning slide out until the normal Bb pitching became A. (This works better on a cornet's conical bore than on a trumpet's tubular bore, btw). The first time I sat in with the SOB's (Sons of Blues) in Chicago in '82 or so, I joined a lineup that had the usual blues band instrumentation of guitar, bass, drums, harp, plus tenor and trumpet. When they finally offered me a solo (after 30 minutes of dutifully manufactured 2nd trumpet parts) on an E blues guitar shuffle, I just took off on a Wild Bill Davison/Bix Beiderbecke romp in F, thanks to being tuned a half step flat. The other horn players were amazed, and I got nods of approval from the front guys. I didn't mention my 'capo" to them. When we played in A, I was in Bb--no problem. So I had solos for the rest of the night. However, when we played in C, I made an excuse and went to the restroom. Too bad it won't work the same way by extending the tenor mouthpiece... dave > >> - It sucks on tenor sax. > > that's riiight - but even worse: the much dreaded guitarist-induced BLUES IN > E becomes F sharp for us. > and Db for the alto saxes. > no frets for us, just awkward fingerings... Well, there's always the bar... and I can't stand the tone of the alto model anyway. August Sax should have maculated it already at the drawing desk. ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 06:13:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AF063BE81; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <489F222B.5010305@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: loop V Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:13:16 +0200 Message-ID: <001e01c8fb79$58811bd0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <489F222B.5010305@tiscali.co.uk> Thread-Index: Acj7IHQQ3t38W1jMQWSTdfLYxlpqtQAWJdYQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.19; VDF: 7.0.5.235) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:13:21 +0000 (UTC) > remember, software development always takes longer than expected. right ... as the saying goes: the first 90% of the project take 90% of the time. the last 10% of the project take 90% of the time. (no typo here) Michael Peters, software developer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 08:26:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31BBC3BE7C; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qGp5NUOv2BEJmT+0NA3oqZaB8ORI6Fk7myOwUXEHM5I=; b=VSMZHBaqjLDWqsaVrBrMcZONie0zbsC+CRICuFEUFdHp2RriQhJvqwVhQrWvdMztGl EBl9wjJidPfvEWBN40RJQdr6MX150En2hKCGL42dlXwykL7OM5j+FABWvke6Gai4p6UP P+zFUPO00WkfXtEXiStJWp1UswtZLUxT54Vw4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ajj8MAxYjYYTR8Lq9cLepkw8unHGF8RZJEf8BfHv210VwGcPiTNzCwbd+GZqAdAC42 oHP6Zj2elswyqqjXJU7GZXpsvfIb26BKhev+71Ww5QWaCDq3DP4xGo1TK7w442P8w3kM QvDeA7fjzaDTxD7+Oe75aRYHsAYBj2p1L+Azo= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808110126r1ef97c38i5f7d485c94f5c17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:26:36 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: a bit OT-- B!!! It just rocks! (Re: Just got this video into YouTube) In-Reply-To: <20080811051219.5A1FC3BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808101238od2d9f21m2fe55519e25fbe49@mail.gmail.com> <20080811051219.5A1FC3BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1bZ_OC.A.-3F.9e_nIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:26:37 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Dave Gallaher wrote: > One of the great discoveries of my cornet-playing days was pulling the > tuning slide out until the normal Bb pitching became A. (This works better > on a cornet's conical bore than on a trumpet's tubular bore, btw). > dave That was interesting to hear! I had to do a similar trick with a remix of choir music I was commissioned for. I was sent multi track recordings of the choir but they had been recording too low. They sang somewhere down at 439 instead of at 440, so when I was going to record alto flute I had to pull out the mouthpiece optimally. The flute did hit the correct "bad" pitch but it gave a completely different feel to play. > > Too bad it won't work the same way by extending the tenor mouthpiece... > Well, on the other hand I think one of the most fun part of playing reed (and wind) instruments, compared to guitars, is that these instrument goes through a much bigger change when used in another key. What might be problematic in a band arrangement situation can be pure inspiration if you play in a music context that allows you to change melodies and stuff to take advance of how the air bounces inside the sax in that other key - or how the mechanics work differently in another key. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 12:46:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB66B3BE81; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218458788; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=WGwEoY8QN07QKeZkfkVAClpgwC4=; b=f2LoyQdVEs9RXzTXsr5sV2OrI8QYcmE5/WALN1+r5oYC/7MJrHe2Doaa5lm0ZMVw pIL56Kht9ncbUr7Xb2FBLUXbQYgbNbBNO1wsUMMrDEni6KBrCzimhuIaKZLhxna6; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jkxRxPM0AAAA:8 a=kBwd2zbYT4KSSnZEU34A:9 a=KH1t-xXTQeRU62rvRyAtD7THDMcA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 a=BqsjdUne7c9BVdocJ-MA:9 a=feCLZUNl-oNT-_qEkNoA:7 a=8_-yY-03_XESj0o_Fk_qmsgpXcEA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c8fbb0$452a38f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: new looper Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:46:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FB8E.BD8E5A50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:46:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FB8E.BD8E5A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just spotted this. http://line6.com/jm4looper/ ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C8FB8E.BD8E5A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Just spotted this.
     
    http://line6.com/jm4looper/
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    Yes, I had similar problems with my DL4. In fact, I've had to open up the unit for 3 out of 4 of the switches at one time or another. The first one to go was the tap tempo...probably because it gets hit the most often. So I then re-arranged them so they would take turns.

    One of them has completely broke. Another switch had a part missing, which was small cyclindrical, so I replaced it with a piece of macaroni which I cut in half with a razor blade (from a box of mac & cheese).

    You may want to know that I am NOT handy or electrically inclined. The switches are mechanical, and no wiring should be necessary. You simply have to pay close attention when you open it up, to remember what goes where.

    I did do a little digging, and Line 6 does sell the switch as a part, so perhaps Akai does also.

    Good luck.
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      From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 16:05:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79FF73BE80; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 55808771 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: listening devices Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:05:01 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1223AE4@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <003201c8fad5$dd6dd580$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: listening devices Thread-Index: Acj7zALXNq+e/SteRIeMhwcuHm1mYQ== References: <003201c8fad5$dd6dd580$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: "Loopers Delight" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2008 16:05:02.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[03222A50:01C8FBCC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:05:06 +0000 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_mirror one of these is near redcar, where I was dragged up.... duncan. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 16:21:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBD673BE87; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 55814115 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: DL4/Akai Headrush Reliability Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:21:21 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1223B1C@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <55890.30325.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DL4/Akai Headrush Reliability Thread-Index: Acj7zkqXt1eN/MFESiuDrMxszCB8xw== References: <55890.30325.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2008 16:21:21.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[4ACFDB70:01C8FBCE] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:21:23 +0000 (UTC) I have a headrush 2, which is still in it's box. wasn't grungey enough for me... FS to first 1/2 decent offerer, pref UK because otherwise it costs me more to ship than I paid in the first place..... ditto 2880 & controller.... too many looper boxes..... ahem. the DL4 has these sturdy-looking footswitches which, it turns out, aren't.=20 they operate, via internal pistons & biro springs, some tiny tactile switchgear soldered directly to the circuit board. it's a shitty idea, designed to save money on hand-soldering "real" switches (like you still get on EH & MXR gear) to the board, with little bits of wire. that said, the DL4's saving grace is the mil-spec casting & the reasonable accuracy of installation of these plunger device switch tops. however, they do work loose (depends on the user's footwear & whether or not they've also spent years using "real" pedals).=20 as they work loose, there is a significant risk that the switch plunger, with or without the owner's assistance, will find it's way further into the casing. the plunger travel will now start pushing the tiny microswitch into the circuit board unless the entire assembly is a) caught in time & b) retightened in the correct position. happened to my guitarist, but mine is fine. caught his just in time. the bits can get lost very easily or (probably worse) go inside the DL4 & bugger up it's elec-trickery. has anyone tried the m13 yet? I have been put off by the look of it's switches, though I haven't seen one in real life yet. d. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and=20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. Communicating by email is not 100% secure and carries risks such as delay,=20 data corruption, non-delivery, wrongful interception and unauthorised=20 amendment. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 18:13:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74F733BE84; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9362B145-6D36-4545-A3FF-9DC26DA2CC97@lividinstruments.com> References: <20080808202449.53D973BF75@arsenic.violacea.com> <9362B145-6D36-4545-A3FF-9DC26DA2CC97@lividinstruments.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <81590A76-4415-4B6C-906A-7F8482B1AB37@lividinstruments.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Nyboer Subject: Re: New software looper Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:13:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:13:16 +0000 (UTC) > Is anyone successfully getting live audio input recorded? Confirmed glitches. It works better if you press ">" (play) on a bin in a Loop, then record your input to that bin. Obviously, not the ideal work flow, but I'll be fixing this for a 1.01 release at a later date. Peter. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 19:04:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DE8C3BE82; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=70noI085hhUh7/mbpf7rp4YKI8ojyZaxP7KGDE5acGE=; b=PLko7aSWeiz1lr2AdcAts+9PkjsJ+UbUb6w/83JRgqVJF0iszdWhd/y9BSD1SpcAYB GKk/R1ClYXHR8cx/bei3uY4c6tcXMTwt0wf+xfYUXExLLqG+YMWgFwLks32H4yTwjhxw Rk4GO8CiLNeOFwlbWNMoEN9s37hNWnt7zfC5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=lUiPQbBkUsKBY81b5fbWsvRJ6DeC/RZ2GdbOyOKv+5jPcMSkQv2UzpYHZbL/PaFfxu F8NAvT4pOYeYB0xe0fqy4qrhQfBJLlF4bHF0MSTnSKhmy/Es7dc4IRdF9GBEeotf2FR+ 2UsLl/QGtWELEbbOTILg7zDD0MVtUKq+2lIdI= Message-ID: <33efc400808111204o4ad80cbeq2fdd3c586b5558fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:04:34 +0100 From: "skeksi ror" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New software looper In-Reply-To: <81590A76-4415-4B6C-906A-7F8482B1AB37@lividinstruments.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_64471_5054386.1218481474265" References: <20080808202449.53D973BF75@arsenic.violacea.com> <9362B145-6D36-4545-A3FF-9DC26DA2CC97@lividinstruments.com> <81590A76-4415-4B6C-906A-7F8482B1AB37@lividinstruments.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:04:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_64471_5054386.1218481474265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline does anyone know can i sync this with a gibson echoplex??// thanx ror On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > Is anyone successfully getting live audio input recorded? >> > > > Confirmed glitches. It works better if you press ">" (play) on a bin in a > Loop, then record your input to that bin. Obviously, not the ideal work > flow, but I'll be fixing this for a 1.01 release at a later date. > > Peter. > > ------=_Part_64471_5054386.1218481474265 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    does anyone know
    can i sync this with a gibson echoplex??//
    thanx
    ror

    On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Peter Nyboer <pete@lividinstruments.com> wrote:
     Is anyone successfully getting live audio input recorded?


    Confirmed glitches.  It works better if you press ">" (play) on a bin in a Loop, then record your input to that bin.  Obviously, not the ideal work flow, but I'll be fixing this for a 1.01 release at a later date.

    Peter.


    ------=_Part_64471_5054386.1218481474265-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 19:05:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 450CE3BE8B; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=nTglVBdw+kKtG8GUf+3q/4ql1d0xJHlB/UDqty0Vljk=; b=xqjLpGz4NQ6ji3R9ckUuMm58opoNSUzLTBSPGGImR24ycvjWIkxeURORfUI26kwpLU KLfGhranEBdIkPNu7KGb9gq6Um8HTjiPlWWN0RDNo2IGm9/XGXPyA2MjWJy1uO7WutR1 WZIsQMK5KPrQW/KeUjAoFHsmISLaFFOGWgvqo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MqUXn3WEhZNP+o9DjG+QSVVI9lulXGgbRPWCxqISuF6aU3B52YMvbMZMeh0DmZeobp 74wsfxYqWcslTAGR5HhFOY0Uvm1UzH3QPDqnVYKsvB3DmQbUEIfSyVDe6NtQv8cTJ5F/ VmmIaHnJDuAyTUmGIFUw3kCqNzdFpP1sJLgWQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:05:34 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Guitar Rig MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <_Dcr_B.A.O4C._1IoIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi. I just got a copy of Native Instruments' Guitar Rig over the weekend and I've been playing around with it running inside Ableton. WOW, so cool to be able to do that with low latency. I think I can replace my entire jazz pedalboard with the laptop. I figured out that the "Sub" part of the "Harmonic Synthesizer" pedal acts very much like the Danelectro Chili Dog that I've been using for so long. Since it is based on the Electro-Harmonix Micro Synth pedal, I suspect that Danelectro ripped off their Chili Dog circuit from the EH. I dunno what is going on in that circuit exactly. It's not a standard octave divider like the Boss OC-2, because the output doesn't sound like a square wave. Sounds nice in Guitar Rig if you EQ the treble off of it and run it through the bass amp module. Also, Guitar Rig's "Tweedman" amp sounds just like the "Fenderizer" pedal I built. Until now I haven't found any programs or other gear that can make these two sounds, so I think now I can dispense with the heavy pedalboards and use my Yamaha foot pedal to control the laptop. I'm pretty excited! I assume there are other Guitar Rig users on the list. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions. I have version 2.2. I also like the Looper module in Guitar Rig, but might not user it much if I am doing the looping with Ableton. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 19:35:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 026893BE7F; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=2lQn1vD0DDKGFHiJNm1QvMzjUXo+vpro/Xm8X6Ea17k=; b=nxas9NHRK+3NaFAfuBJVi+4QF72AWmr5YQJwwyvFmvsYdUMJtT5lmtpbuKCqvZfMy6 7pY4tc8FWxc0Km84g3gcf40K7yvCANHaR5XenLqdKSwk1RkA47K+NsgtRnRezk09vDkg ZrCo4JshvXLd46QnESOT3pAgYv/UXcHGnxESU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=irP+o/I0fCgWMz2lL4F2XbCQ7yOwmE0t+4fY8KgsTT6OswWCBDSiozGPWdWWg4KNeq 9o0SwWHP2C350xRC4BO3qVQIUTgX3C2hb6yelG3ZrLRtdjXygvvLNOiZKD1OslGCg40L 32fYpVkvt8t/797i/q1rkQA9205wDnLYDpArk= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808111235jaf86124h53a9a9cfaea6a18d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:35:40 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New software looper In-Reply-To: <33efc400808111204o4ad80cbeq2fdd3c586b5558fb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080808202449.53D973BF75@arsenic.violacea.com> <9362B145-6D36-4545-A3FF-9DC26DA2CC97@lividinstruments.com> <81590A76-4415-4B6C-906A-7F8482B1AB37@lividinstruments.com> <33efc400808111204o4ad80cbeq2fdd3c586b5558fb@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:35:41 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:04 PM, skeksi ror wrote: > does anyone know > can i sync this with a gibson echoplex??// The manual says MIDI Clock works. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 11 21:31:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54EBE3BE80; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080811160547.1MGW6.72156.root@fepweb15> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:05:46 -0400 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: I/O was: Guitar Rig Cc: Mark Smart In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 12.195.92.82 by ssomail.charter.net; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:05:46 -0400 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:31:22 +0000 (UTC) hi all, hope i'm not hijacking this thread too much, but with all the recent talk of laptops, software loopers and now guitar rig, my head is in a tizzy... so here goes. if one decides to use a laptop and software to process and loop, what is a viable solution for I/O if you want to use a guitar amp? I've used a DL4 and a RC-50 for looping, along with my pedalboard, into various fender or fender clones (i like that sound). As soon as i've tried to run my guitar into the computer (iMac G5 with Alesis IO26) into Ableton, and then back out to my guitar amp, the sound always seems poor....stiff, noisy, lots of hiss. I've always been so disappointed with the sound that i was never motivated to get the looping/fx paradigm setup properly for my playing. this is running my guitar directly into the hi-z input on my alesis, bringing up the gain properly for Ableton, then turning down the master in Ableton to match closely the same level as the guitar plugged straight into the amp. I can do direct monitoring on my i/o, so i do that so i get no latency on the direct guitar...it goes straight to the amp, and then i do the loops in Ableton. I realize i probably have an impedance issue here by running the output of my soundcard into a front end of a guitar amp. But is this the only issue? Do i need a proper DI for the signal going in to the sound card, and then an impedance changer for the output? I have plenty of guitar amps, and don't really fancy the whole 'modeller/full spectrum PA' type paradigm. I'm just struggling to get a computer i/o to act like a stompbox pedalboard and rc-50 looper. And every time i try i'm very disappointed with the sound. As soon as i plug into my pedalboard and looper into the amp, it seems to come back to life. since there has been much talk about the echo audiofire 2 (which seems like an ideal small interface) i've gotten the bug to maybe try again, but i know i have enough equipment right now to troubleshoot the issue on my desktop system before purchasing a laptop and portable i/o. any info is appreciated. rich ---- Mark Smart wrote: > Hi. > I just got a copy of Native Instruments' Guitar Rig over the weekend > and I've been playing around with it running inside Ableton. WOW, so > cool to be able to do that with low latency. > > I think I can replace my entire jazz pedalboard with the laptop. I > figured out that the "Sub" part of the "Harmonic Synthesizer" pedal > acts very much like the Danelectro Chili Dog that I've been using for > so long. Since it is based on the Electro-Harmonix Micro Synth pedal, > I suspect that Danelectro ripped off their Chili Dog circuit from the > EH. I dunno what is going on in that circuit exactly. It's not a > standard octave divider like the Boss OC-2, because the output doesn't > sound like a square wave. Sounds nice in Guitar Rig if you EQ the > treble off of it and run it through the bass amp module. > > Also, Guitar Rig's "Tweedman" amp sounds just like the "Fenderizer" > pedal I built. Until now I haven't found any programs or other gear > that can make these two sounds, so I think now I can dispense with the > heavy pedalboards and use my Yamaha foot pedal to control the laptop. > I'm pretty excited! > > I assume there are other Guitar Rig users on the list. I'd be > interested in hearing suggestions. I have version 2.2. I also like the > Looper module in Guitar Rig, but might not user it much if I am doing > the looping with Ableton. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 00:30:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 009B13BE81; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ePC-paLKAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=c3UiGkCr0GiGnXy_meMA:9 a=JYZelec__n17hnWqJSYA:7 a=G4u9phSJI3FO4ApgNPxx_OjkOzsA:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 In-Reply-To: <20080811160547.1MGW6.72156.root@fepweb15> References: <20080811160547.1MGW6.72156.root@fepweb15> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:30:27 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:30:28 +0000 (UTC) I use a Motu Ultralite. No problems. I used to have an Alesis Multimix. I don;t know if they use similar components, but I thought the Multimix was the worst sounding mixer ever. The pres sucked. I also dont use a guitar amp. The sound goes directly to full range pa speakers. Being a laptop guy, I run into skeptics all the time. I played a gig a few weeks ago using GR 3 out to 2 Mackie 450's. It was loud and awesome. The ability to temp sync everything instantly is amazing. I will never go back. On Aug 11, 2008, at 4:05 PM, wrote: > hi all, > hope i'm not hijacking this thread too much, but with all the > recent talk of laptops, software loopers and now guitar rig, my > head is in a tizzy... > > so here goes. > > if one decides to use a laptop and software to process and loop, > what is a viable solution for I/O if you want to use a guitar amp? > > I've used a DL4 and a RC-50 for looping, along with my pedalboard, > into various fender or fender clones (i like that sound). > > As soon as i've tried to run my guitar into the computer (iMac G5 > with Alesis IO26) into Ableton, and then back out to my guitar amp, > the sound always seems poor....stiff, noisy, lots of hiss. I've > always been so disappointed with the sound that i was never > motivated to get the looping/fx paradigm setup properly for my > playing. > > this is running my guitar directly into the hi-z input on my > alesis, bringing up the gain properly for Ableton, then turning > down the master in Ableton to match closely the same level as the > guitar plugged straight into the amp. I can do direct monitoring > on my i/o, so i do that so i get no latency on the direct > guitar...it goes straight to the amp, and then i do the loops in > Ableton. > > I realize i probably have an impedance issue here by running the > output of my soundcard into a front end of a guitar amp. But is > this the only issue? Do i need a proper DI for the signal going in > to the sound card, and then an impedance changer for the output? > > I have plenty of guitar amps, and don't really fancy the whole > 'modeller/full spectrum PA' type paradigm. I'm just struggling to > get a computer i/o to act like a stompbox pedalboard and rc-50 > looper. And every time i try i'm very disappointed with the > sound. As soon as i plug into my pedalboard and looper into the > amp, it seems to come back to life. > > since there has been much talk about the echo audiofire 2 (which > seems like an ideal small interface) i've gotten the bug to maybe > try again, but i know i have enough equipment right now to > troubleshoot the issue on my desktop system before purchasing a > laptop and portable i/o. > > any info is appreciated. > > rich > > > > > ---- Mark Smart wrote: >> Hi. >> I just got a copy of Native Instruments' Guitar Rig over the weekend >> and I've been playing around with it running inside Ableton. WOW, so >> cool to be able to do that with low latency. >> >> I think I can replace my entire jazz pedalboard with the laptop. I >> figured out that the "Sub" part of the "Harmonic Synthesizer" pedal >> acts very much like the Danelectro Chili Dog that I've been using for >> so long. Since it is based on the Electro-Harmonix Micro Synth pedal, >> I suspect that Danelectro ripped off their Chili Dog circuit from the >> EH. I dunno what is going on in that circuit exactly. It's not a >> standard octave divider like the Boss OC-2, because the output >> doesn't >> sound like a square wave. Sounds nice in Guitar Rig if you EQ the >> treble off of it and run it through the bass amp module. >> >> Also, Guitar Rig's "Tweedman" amp sounds just like the "Fenderizer" >> pedal I built. Until now I haven't found any programs or other gear >> that can make these two sounds, so I think now I can dispense with >> the >> heavy pedalboards and use my Yamaha foot pedal to control the laptop. >> I'm pretty excited! >> >> I assume there are other Guitar Rig users on the list. I'd be >> interested in hearing suggestions. I have version 2.2. I also like >> the >> Looper module in Guitar Rig, but might not user it much if I am doing >> the looping with Ableton. >> >> -- >> Mark Smart >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >> http://www.marksmart.net >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 00:33:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB7333BE85; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=d3d1DhQAo3/ZQ6IcPibhhfrS+cKVIQcU0MxZ/NZCOBo=; b=oTphW0qBoEZQi8qgSoYY4FxuaBNgwsK2B5j6FaST+IZy5EVNbRfriiAQhhvqfDlEBB dpkr5t67DKtYAnRSq/irGocyvQikRM/KVLbnNiFy1/sthSpV4jn3I7r8aa76bwI7dQ0U mLy1jjJJ8BCFGp2OyJnVOqpc6uzKJqaNnNlWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=T0luVwqtcVv9+2LUbSl3NM2AmNunAi4bih0327AEaDlbrC4FmmuAK1SzsSHpYfT1m1 DQF6JNQQDojc16V+6qkWvvxLtKb5Fs8JvUUjOhpnz+R129LXfwa161wA9LW8hII00ain /uoElyTeCkljrWYhs7cTBfdSL1JTqa6R4wxUo= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:33:55 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new looper In-Reply-To: <000801c8fbb0$452a38f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c8fbb0$452a38f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:33:57 +0000 (UTC) (sigh) All it needs now is a big sticker that says "JUST FOR AMATEURS!" I can't be the only one who feels insulted by the idea of equipment in which the main marketing appeal is a simulation of playing with "real" musicians! I mean, yes, I'm an amateur, but ouch dude - I like to pretend that I'm *a little* original! Could it have a much more blatantly needed feature instead, like the ability to fade out after a few repeats so I can end a song gracefully? Apparently not. Bad Line-6. No paycheck for you. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Just spotted this. > > http://line6.com/jm4looper/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 00:58:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95A923BE85; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=U53POeG35CTEhFQ5qGRJA+oIUVeV0OSHEsKrnxX/FD0MPDYGYV81RkZ1w1J2jvcZEzJaXXhvtVdCZG+X9Fb7jXbmKb/qhAApFWTV11vjDgDor6nib2A+SY6wKdCV+IETWa4uoUydkmLbj16KCMx69or0aGmhv3Mwy9/XVgKxaAc=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:58:48 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: billbigrig@yahoo.com Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <489BDFA8.60808@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <292257.6600.qm@web32703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, An SPST switch. Rig --- On Thu, 8/7/08, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > From: Stefan Tiedje > Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 10:54 PM > mark francombe schrieb: > > ys i saw the faderfox in action when Per was > playing... Liked it, but IM > > TALKING TINY!!!! Aint there anything REALLY SMALL?? > Like matchbox small? > > > > How many times do we have to say it?? The behriger > wins on Price yet again!! > > Tiny? its called Faderbaby. But I am hunting for a Cooper > faderbaby > since ages, out of production and nobody will sell it... > I am considering to create my own with bluetooth conncetion > and an > arduino board... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 01:26:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DB093BE82; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=P03aGnzd1+z07gsh9IQp3kiLvJcvfWzLZlSV6NioFHM=; b=v9EcGTDLMMZLoQ/xncbYwEfq9UTFIuXSK1m1zg39v2ChnwqqH/pd4ZgQYbsPDuwTN/ XnuW+Tqm3TN+GxyU6lPW/WZmSMmJeGxq+IctXa3HwRbruvv+1MgLo07kTE7tlrdYK7Hf P2dcE1Jn9exHJ5v7qCODShkWwDGnnS4l5AtbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=XotnSdU/G3GS0/12rNm9pZkxSoE1vuRVN7Gd7LrNefKa8Qh6Imrs+AbIVtk4bkscjk dDr4dnGbBRSWsnZBZs1ojBqTt4x8bcgmW8Qyg7gCI1jqzDCjZ2rXdnHFPMlf5OrHjVIh 3rVD9awJKzJ4IYQV2k8LsZpvc9YMdI3KQi4Vo= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:26:39 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_72926_29673535.1218504399417" References: <20080811160547.1MGW6.72156.root@fepweb15> Resent-Message-ID: <_sV4NC.A.01F.RbOoIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:26:41 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_72926_29673535.1218504399417 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Rich. Sounds like what you're describing might be caused by not having the guitar signal loud enough when it goes into the computer. I see that the Alesis IO26 can amplify mic-level signals. Are you plugging into a line input? Is there a trim adjustment on the line input to make it work for the lower-level guitar signal? If not, you might want to try running into a mic input instead. Alternatively, if your guitar amp has an effects loop, you might try running the effects send out into the computer instead of the guitar, and the computer's output into the effects return. I am using the AudioFire 4, which has two channels with preamps, so I'm plugging my guitar into those. It works well because I can run my Copeland hex pickup signals into those 2 inputs, and then process them separately in Guitar Rig using the Split modules. Very cool. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_72926_29673535.1218504399417 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Hi Rich.
    Sounds like what you're describing might be caused by not having the guitar signal loud enough when it goes into the computer. I see that the Alesis IO26 can amplify mic-level signals. Are you plugging into a line input? Is there a trim adjustment on the line input to make it work for the lower-level guitar signal? If not, you might want to try running into a mic input instead.

    Alternatively, if your guitar amp has an effects loop, you might try running the effects send out into the computer instead of the guitar, and the computer's output into the effects return.

    I am using the AudioFire 4, which has two channels with preamps, so I'm plugging my guitar into those. It works well because I can run my Copeland hex pickup signals into those 2 inputs, and then process them separately in Guitar Rig using the Split modules. Very cool.

    --
    Mark Smart
    http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
    http://www.marksmart.net
    ------=_Part_72926_29673535.1218504399417-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 01:53:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 757E43BE81; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218505980; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=c7c3UMBxknuo/+d/Imdx5o9mkJE=; b=TUUUgI0r3C/BDD4iPfMJvkyowIzqz+fLXhnqdcAe7u5r0adE1GdJgF2XSihVAiKF 3SGwUZmoaLvqBMCCIUkS+6knuMgBT2fBocKcTQ0rxvhvVxaCg6IJESoNlnFN0WOF; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=OT3O6O8lAAAA:8 a=jkxRxPM0AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=bHaDTUYsmFaMrEQtLHAA:9 a=fYoJfHFMmokHeVk78NYA:7 a=hyuqje-Z6jGAoGuqivgBXKTiTxgA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=wCaoJTriV0sA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c8fc1e$262e8320$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000801c8fbb0$452a38f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: new looper Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:52:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:53:01 +0000 (UTC) yeah, it goes along with "Guitar Hero" and all the clones, nothing wrong I guess. Probably a great practice tool for budding "rock stars". That is the appeal of these phrase samplers like the new Jam man. It has a center cut for cutting out vocals and lead instruments so you can play along with your favs. Kareoki ya know! Hence the lack of feedback control on so much new looping gear. But then I am an old school amateur. 2c worth, Jeff http://www.thisphase.org/lips.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" To: Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:33 PM Subject: Re: new looper > (sigh) > > All it needs now is a big sticker that says "JUST FOR AMATEURS!" I > can't be the only one who feels insulted by the idea of equipment in > which the main marketing appeal is a simulation of playing with "real" > musicians! > > I mean, yes, I'm an amateur, but ouch dude - I like to pretend that > I'm *a little* original! > > Could it have a much more blatantly needed feature instead, like the > ability to fade out after a few repeats so I can end a song > gracefully? Apparently not. > > Bad Line-6. No paycheck for you. > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> Just spotted this. >> >> http://line6.com/jm4looper/ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1604 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > 5:50 AM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 02:01:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 457313BE82; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:01:26 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=4zSsxDrADTzA8wCptQd6lR4CoablMml3igaFyZS5dFB790JO/NdtQLdKYEN5htNTrYEhciixRBsF0DkUuOOfCbpWIhMYr0+Y0BLDX51SBjZaqNRjNbX0LVNXts9qy+lxQ4bZu3wrSptv+GtBj5XL8OLJbReD0vABMVvkeiXddZg=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:54:45 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <437366.4457.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_ghZ6D.A.4nG.27OoIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Even running in to a mic pre with the guitar signal, he's going to run in to impedance issues unless the pre has a DI. --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Mark Smart wrote: > From: Mark Smart > Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 6:26 PM > Hi Rich. > Sounds like what you're describing might be caused by > not having the guitar > signal loud enough when it goes into the computer. I see > that the Alesis > IO26 can amplify mic-level signals. Are you plugging into a > line input? Is > there a trim adjustment on the line input to make it work > for the > lower-level guitar signal? If not, you might want to try > running into a mic > input instead. > > Alternatively, if your guitar amp has an effects loop, you > might try running > the effects send out into the computer instead of the > guitar, and the > computer's output into the effects return. > > I am using the AudioFire 4, which has two channels with > preamps, so I'm > plugging my guitar into those. It works well because I can > run my Copeland > hex pickup signals into those 2 inputs, and then process > them separately in > Guitar Rig using the Split modules. Very cool. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 04:14:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B8B93BE82; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Boss RC 50 sync issues Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:14:20 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c8fc31$e8161ee0$6701a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C8FBF7.3BB746E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj8MeSrMyN9IjOHQQ+r7OCUl+ecIQ== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:14:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C8FBF7.3BB746E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gang, The other day while doing a tech rehearsal for a trio gig, We were going about the business of checking our sync capability using Two Lp-1's and RC-50. The Lp-1's had no problem syncing up as long as the master looper's initial track was recorded on track 1, and nothing was done to the initial master sync track in the way of changing sample rate or putting the track in to reverse, or replacing a portion of it. And the master looper had to use the sync record function and the slave looper used midi sync record. The Boss RC-50, however would not sync up to an incoming clock message from either LP-1. Since the guy who owns the machine hadn't really delved in to it, and the manual was not in reach, we ended up using his old lexicon Jamman that behaved like a champ. A few nights later I looked at the manuals on line (without an RC-50 handy) and as far as I could tell, it looks like you have to set the sync individually for each of the RC-50's three tracks, and possibly a global setting as well. But I found the manual rather cryptic and they don't have the complete manual available for download anyway. Any body out have any success getting the RC-50 to recognize incoming midi clock? Help.please..I seem to recall some discussion about this a while back But I wasn't paying close attention. The archives didn't yield anything either Hmmmmmmm??? Bill ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C8FBF7.3BB746E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hey Gang, The other day while doing a tech rehearsal = for a trio gig, We were going about the business of checking our sync = capability using Two Lp-1’s and RC-50. The Lp-1’s had no problem = syncing up as long as the master looper’s initial track was recorded on track 1, = and nothing was done to the initial master sync track in the way of changing = sample rate or putting the track in to reverse, or replacing a portion of it. = And the master looper had to use the sync record function and the slave looper = used midi sync record. The Boss RC-50, however would not sync up to an = incoming clock message from either LP-1. Since the guy who owns the machine = hadn’t really delved in to it, and the manual was not in reach, we ended up = using his old lexicon Jamman that behaved like a champ. A few nights later I = looked at the manuals on line (without an RC-50 handy) and as far as I could tell, = it looks like you have to set the sync individually for each of the = RC-50’s three tracks, and possibly a global setting as well. But I found the = manual rather cryptic and they  don’t have the complete manual = available for download anyway. Any body out have any success getting the RC-50 to recognize incoming midi clock? Help…please……I seem to = recall some discussion about this a while back But I wasn’t paying close attention. The archives didn’t yield anything either = Hmmmmmmm???

    Bill

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Deine komplette Position Adresse.=20 Sobald ich deine positive Antwort empfange=2C versorge ich dich dann mit me= hr Details =FCber=2C wie wir mit dem Anspruch fortfahren.=20 Ich freue=2C deine sofortige Antwort zu empfangen.=20 Respekt=2C=20 Herr Charles Brown From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 05:29:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E8003BE77; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 33801 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:29:12 UTC User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:29:04 -0700 Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig From: Richard Atkinson To: Looper's Delight Message-ID: Thread-Topic: I/O was: Guitar Rig Thread-Index: Acj8PFVWk7L4kGgvEd277QAWy4YwYQ== In-Reply-To: <437366.4457.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys, Thanks for the responses. I'm getting plenty of signal to Ableton, and the Alesis io26 has a 'guitar' input. Getting the signal in and processing/looping it is cool. It's when I want to go back out from the Alesisi to the front end of a regular guitar amp is where the sound is really crappy. I've seen those 're-amping' boxes, that advertise that you can record straight off the guitar to your desk, then reamp that signal later, using your choice of guitar amps, rather than micing and being stuck with one amp choice in the beginning, right? Well, isn't bringing in a direct signal to Ableton and then spitting it back out to a guitar amp essentially reamping? What are those little boxes doing? Changing impedance, I'm sure from lo-z to hi, but are they doing anything else? Are all you guys using full spectrum pa type amplification? No one using a computer interface with a regular guitar amp? Thanks for all the info! Rich On 8/11/08 6:54 PM, "George Ludwig" wrote: > Even running in to a mic pre with the guitar signal, he's going to run in to > impedance issues unless the pre has a DI. > > > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Mark Smart wrote: > >> From: Mark Smart >> Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 6:26 PM >> Hi Rich. >> Sounds like what you're describing might be caused by >> not having the guitar >> signal loud enough when it goes into the computer. I see >> that the Alesis >> IO26 can amplify mic-level signals. Are you plugging into a >> line input? Is >> there a trim adjustment on the line input to make it work >> for the >> lower-level guitar signal? If not, you might want to try >> running into a mic >> input instead. >> >> Alternatively, if your guitar amp has an effects loop, you >> might try running >> the effects send out into the computer instead of the >> guitar, and the >> computer's output into the effects return. >> >> I am using the AudioFire 4, which has two channels with >> preamps, so I'm >> plugging my guitar into those. It works well because I can >> run my Copeland >> hex pickup signals into those 2 inputs, and then process >> them separately in >> Guitar Rig using the Split modules. Very cool. >> >> -- >> Mark Smart >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >> http://www.marksmart.net > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 05:46:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 264FB3BE82; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:46:42 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=vRoEKWBPTXH9uJ+LIm1DvBlb4KAGcp+qFlnQBncVF1Q2v2zZJKZXuCEYDS8NzkL73Ykr/9GUBnIrss3HdjdwmlWfJ92tI5vFSatKGhW26NY5sMeHF63GnHHcqUAfl0nt79eWte4kDJmzyFSQ5fyb1hHsM/kCJCWbdeoMSArKdR8=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:40:00 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <330319.87091.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Richard, > Well, isn't bringing in a direct signal to Ableton and > then spitting it back > out to a guitar amp essentially reamping? > > What are those little boxes doing? Changing impedance, > I'm sure from lo-z > to hi, but are they doing anything else? You are exactly correct. For re-amping, I use an X-Amp from Radial Systems. I'm not sure what exactly it's doing, but it is an active box, and sounds perfect. It's a little pricey, though. Not sure what' in there besides a transformer. You might find a schematic somewhere online. I got the Radial Systems unit on the advice of a producer pal of mine. He's never steered me wrong on gear. -George --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Richard Atkinson wrote: > From: Richard Atkinson > Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig > To: "Looper's Delight" > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 10:29 PM > Hi guys, > Thanks for the responses. I'm getting plenty of signal > to Ableton, and the > Alesis io26 has a 'guitar' input. Getting the > signal in and > processing/looping it is cool. > > It's when I want to go back out from the Alesisi to the > front end of a > regular guitar amp is where the sound is really crappy. > > I've seen those 're-amping' boxes, that > advertise that you can record > straight off the guitar to your desk, then reamp that > signal later, using > your choice of guitar amps, rather than micing and being > stuck with one amp > choice in the beginning, right? > > Well, isn't bringing in a direct signal to Ableton and > then spitting it back > out to a guitar amp essentially reamping? > > What are those little boxes doing? Changing impedance, > I'm sure from lo-z > to hi, but are they doing anything else? > > Are all you guys using full spectrum pa type amplification? > No one using a > computer interface with a regular guitar amp? > > Thanks for all the info! > Rich > > > On 8/11/08 6:54 PM, "George Ludwig" > wrote: > > > Even running in to a mic pre with the guitar signal, > he's going to run in to > > impedance issues unless the pre has a DI. > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Mark Smart > wrote: > > > >> From: Mark Smart > >> Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 6:26 PM > >> Hi Rich. > >> Sounds like what you're describing might be > caused by > >> not having the guitar > >> signal loud enough when it goes into the computer. > I see > >> that the Alesis > >> IO26 can amplify mic-level signals. Are you > plugging into a > >> line input? Is > >> there a trim adjustment on the line input to make > it work > >> for the > >> lower-level guitar signal? If not, you might want > to try > >> running into a mic > >> input instead. > >> > >> Alternatively, if your guitar amp has an effects > loop, you > >> might try running > >> the effects send out into the computer instead of > the > >> guitar, and the > >> computer's output into the effects return. > >> > >> I am using the AudioFire 4, which has two channels > with > >> preamps, so I'm > >> plugging my guitar into those. It works well > because I can > >> run my Copeland > >> hex pickup signals into those 2 inputs, and then > process > >> them separately in > >> Guitar Rig using the Split modules. Very cool. > >> > >> -- > >> Mark Smart > >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > >> http://www.marksmart.net > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 07:06:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF6743BE81; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: I/O was: Guitar Rig Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:06:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj8PFVWk7L4kGgvEd277QAWy4YwYQADPAUQ Message-Id: <20080812070620.7FDE03BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <20ucBC.A.e1E.sZToIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:06:20 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to second the opinion that you try the effects loop for your looper feed and return. I have no laptop experience, but my old RC 20 and my EDP all work well in effects loops on Fender DeVilles, Hot Rod Deluxes, and originally, Peavey Delta Blues. Part of the reason I did this was to be able to access the amp's channel switching while looping (clean rhythm guitar, octave pedal bass and whacked drum effects, switching to overdriven lead sounds on top). I kept the effects and pedals up front, leaving the effects loop entirely to the looper. dave Hi guys, Thanks for the responses. I'm getting plenty of signal to Ableton, and the Alesis io26 has a 'guitar' input. Getting the signal in and processing/looping it is cool. It's when I want to go back out from the Alesisi to the front end of a regular guitar amp is where the sound is really crappy. I've seen those 're-amping' boxes, that advertise that you can record straight off the guitar to your desk, then reamp that signal later, using your choice of guitar amps, rather than micing and being stuck with one amp choice in the beginning, right? Well, isn't bringing in a direct signal to Ableton and then spitting it back out to a guitar amp essentially reamping? What are those little boxes doing? Changing impedance, I'm sure from lo-z to hi, but are they doing anything else? Are all you guys using full spectrum pa type amplification? No one using a computer interface with a regular guitar amp? Thanks for all the info! Rich On 8/11/08 6:54 PM, "George Ludwig" wrote: > Even running in to a mic pre with the guitar signal, he's going to run in to > impedance issues unless the pre has a DI. > > > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Mark Smart wrote: > >> From: Mark Smart >> Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 6:26 PM >> Hi Rich. >> Sounds like what you're describing might be caused by >> not having the guitar >> signal loud enough when it goes into the computer. I see >> that the Alesis >> IO26 can amplify mic-level signals. Are you plugging into a >> line input? Is >> there a trim adjustment on the line input to make it work >> for the >> lower-level guitar signal? If not, you might want to try >> running into a mic >> input instead. >> >> Alternatively, if your guitar amp has an effects loop, you >> might try running >> the effects send out into the computer instead of the >> guitar, and the >> computer's output into the effects return. >> >> I am using the AudioFire 4, which has two channels with >> preamps, so I'm >> plugging my guitar into those. It works well because I can >> run my Copeland >> hex pickup signals into those 2 inputs, and then process >> them separately in >> Guitar Rig using the Split modules. Very cool. >> >> -- >> Mark Smart >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart >> http://www.marksmart.net > > > > From mrjere@hotmail.fr Tue Aug 12 08:52:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2022 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:52:52 UTC Received: from vizslamail.hu (mail.vizslamail.hu [193.202.82.46]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90473BE70 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web-01.vizslamail.swi.hu ([192.168.1.132]) by smtp-out-01.vizslamail.swi.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.44 #1 (Debian)) id 1KSp3o-000063-9k from ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:16:56 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jere Hassan To: jerehassan@altavizsla.hu Subject: URGENT POSITIVE RESPONSE IS NEEDED. 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Boss knows about the issue for 2 years now but have n= ot fixed it. So, it only works if the LP1 also sends a midi start message= but the result is that the RC-50 will start recording or playing too...a= nd that's not exactly what you want. Btw: I have used both a LP1 and RC-50 with the RC-50 as the master, that = works fine. The LP1 even syncs perfectly if you use "midi sync rec", also= minor tap tempo changes from the RC-50 are OK. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 09:27:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAEF63BE81; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=8schntxhX37RpbiVgXD/VxjNLGMJwvrh8OIPxaT+pOg=; b=MzMnr45JoRe0qetFhvVmkVuI1Dsmnq0+R1gAmc8756qcf54s1EcNbr1QgTzzT0b6Bj GbovSiaFwVchLwIgpohyIT4fw5+R1phNna7UE6qYkF1YdOAD8bRaNOurxsGQYWD/r7m0 Yw+9//1WvzkaJug9DwwEGfnprjGpqOQbWhenw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=OGqtwpQwv1wte1DbXG2FtqqzdLC+4/rLkFsI6bAsfpbv4ljoKobxwW62czMC0EdV0p jw+Rpbw4HCEXon1BKcU26g2Amn26yVsx9fxSKmxuuegyKxgepxo0En0pSNgI89UI2+Ec 7hIDeHNqJpRBQd0WedWhErKugdfxzdWGmAnxU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:27:27 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig In-Reply-To: <20080812070620.7FDE03BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_76461_28920535.1218533247891" References: <20080812070620.7FDE03BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:27:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_76461_28920535.1218533247891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline BTW, I got my extremely cheap copy of Guitar Rig 2.2 from here: http://www.softwarevending.com/info-Native_Instruments_Guitar_Rig_2.2_VST_DX_RTAS.html It appears that it's even legal... -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_76461_28920535.1218533247891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    BTW, I got my extremely cheap copy of Guitar Rig 2.2 from here:

    http://www.softwarevending.com/info-Native_Instruments_Guitar_Rig_2.2_VST_DX_RTAS.html

    It appears that it's even legal...

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Prince Bernard Eyadima From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 12:23:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A2F93BE75; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OT3O6O8lAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=jkxRxPM0AAAA:8 a=uke4giGkIHNbL3TgMZ4A:9 a=MhNyzcYOe1rmZw8J9bcA:7 a=OpygXjnGqQAWKmUGS6X-HhiqsnIA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 In-Reply-To: <000601c8fc1e$262e8320$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000801c8fbb0$452a38f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <000601c8fc1e$262e8320$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <68B82D7F-0863-40F2-ACF3-EF4321DAF1AC@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: new looper Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:23:41 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:23:42 +0000 (UTC) On Block Island this summer, I saw a band play and it was 3 guitar players that sang. They were backed up by Kareoke discs. I couldn't believe it. They were really nice people that simply wanted to sound good. They played to a full house of very happy and enthused (and drunk) boaters who couldn't have cared a less. They then collected there 2 grand for 5 hours of work and left happy. Thats who this pedal is marketed to and they will sell a shitload of them. Also, with all these play along devices like this and the fender g decs, we are in danger of creating a whole generation of guitar players with good time. Very Dangerous. On Aug 11, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > yeah, it goes along with "Guitar Hero" and all the clones, nothing > wrong I guess. Probably a great practice tool for budding "rock > stars". That is the appeal of these phrase samplers like the new > Jam man. It has a center cut for cutting out vocals and lead > instruments so you can play along with your favs. Kareoki ya know! > Hence the lack of feedback control on so much new looping gear. But > then I am an old school amateur. > > 2c worth, > > Jeff > http://www.thisphase.org/lips.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" > > To: > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:33 PM > Subject: Re: new looper > > >> (sigh) >> >> All it needs now is a big sticker that says "JUST FOR AMATEURS!" I >> can't be the only one who feels insulted by the idea of equipment in >> which the main marketing appeal is a simulation of playing with >> "real" >> musicians! >> >> I mean, yes, I'm an amateur, but ouch dude - I like to pretend that >> I'm *a little* original! >> >> Could it have a much more blatantly needed feature instead, like the >> ability to fade out after a few repeats so I can end a song >> gracefully? Apparently not. >> >> Bad Line-6. No paycheck for you. >> >> Matt Davignon >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Jeff Duke >> wrote: >>> Just spotted this. >>> >>> http://line6.com/jm4looper/ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1604 - Release Date: >> 8/11/2008 5:50 AM >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 13:00:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA5A73BE75; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=VHiCLZzCO/JcKwxDKSvn0lC9O2wLe780sEfx/7eltcENk4ceXUsBkwDffXGFGCJDEpiI+wZGmU7ubftvhXIu8zfH+SbOlY3JuvOC1ehxavWznyRgT9X4tcqQbnbyjHDYdwcL26dyOxBrjjeSZfsjdeNfyWFGLLo3ht20G1O8Ojs=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:00:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: new looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <629349.89002.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:00:43 +0000 (UTC) i am with you,on the other hand it seems to be a very practical compact pedal guitar its an efx proccessor with amp sims,looper,drum machine to practice or teach and mic input,but too early to tell how good its internal sounds will be... i am quite curious about this one seems to be a nice stomp solution as well http://line6.com/m13/ but again too early to tell cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Matt Davignon wrote: > From: Matt Davignon > Subject: Re: new looper > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 5:33 PM > (sigh) > > All it needs now is a big sticker that says "JUST FOR > AMATEURS!" I > can't be the only one who feels insulted by the idea of > equipment in > which the main marketing appeal is a simulation of playing > with "real" > musicians! > > I mean, yes, I'm an amateur, but ouch dude - I like to > pretend that > I'm *a little* original! > > Could it have a much more blatantly needed feature instead, > like the > ability to fade out after a few repeats so I can end a song > gracefully? Apparently not. > > Bad Line-6. No paycheck for you. > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Jeff Duke > wrote: > > Just spotted this. > > > > http://line6.com/jm4looper/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 15:27:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E28F3BE7F; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=tv9zFEOf1nYASqK48wB9mp3CJGhAqNjGK/WE/IUHa7I+ukzknDNIm8IaoqJJ0m1fiiWgRmumJ6NmkAs8CjmdraOlqkEYKJMVwNpKOqNwyRNNjLl5GCCVfVPmCRtet6au; Message-ID: <20080812102744.or017xt9ck4ocokc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:27:44 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: LoopersDelight Subject: Re: Plug-ins, effects - what's in your basic tool box? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:27:50 +0000 (UTC) I'm using VST FX with my laptop -- mainly because to set up and =20 transport the equipment is easier than with bulky hardware racks. I =20 like my hardware FX units better but I have had to travel light to =20 play outside of my studio. The other nice thing about VST (computer-based) FX is that I can have =20 multiple instances of an effect at different places in the signal chain. I use an input strip with insert effects: Reverb, Delay Modeler, Overdrive, Chorus, Phaser, Ring Modulation Currently I send to four instances of "Double Delay" and a Surround =20 Reverb. Each Send is routed through an independent panner. Each instance of Double Delay sends to Surround Reverb. The reverb on my Input strip is used to generate "bigger than life" =20 reverbs while the Surround Reverb sets up the Surround Sound field. Panning is extremely important to me. I could live without the insert =20 fx but I wouldn't want to give up the panning. In a previous post, I spoke of my experiments with a bucket brigade =20 configuration and I look forward to utilizing this and integrating the =20 LP1 into my setup. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 15:30:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D128C3BE80; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:30:33 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:FC-300 / LP1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:30:36 +0000 (UTC) > do you know if you can edit the program change messages sent in > standard mode? for example if the bank number display says 01, you > can have the program change message be 23 (instead of 01). i don't > own an FC300 but i've been trying to figure this out from the manual. Hi Zoe, I'm back again. I checked a few things but as I expected you can't change= the corresponding program change number itself in standard mode. The good news is that the FC-300 has 4 modes including the very powerful = patch mode. This is where the FC-300 shines imo if you need flexibility a= nd I think this mode offers what you want. - User definable patch names - Patch ON and OFF commands, including program change - CTL pedal ON and OFF commands, including program change - The EXP pedals and EXP pedal switches can be assigned to up to six (!)m= essages to be transmitted - You can also assign one message to be transmitted to each of the pedals= connected to the rear panel=92s EXP PEDAL/CTL jacks and FC-300=92s CTL pe= dals. - The midi channel is user definable per CC or PC message, so you are abl= e to control multiple devices on different midi channels. I have used patch mode myself, it works very good. However, I'm currently= using a combination of standard mode and control mode to control an LP1.= The LP1 can execute 8 functions per program change or control message, s= o you can program it to do multiple things with the same CC or PC message= . With standard mode I select the track number on the LP1, so patch 1 =3D t= rack 1, patch 2 =3D track 2 etc. I only have to look at the floor to the = FC-300 to see my current track. Just to be sure :) With the control mode I have 12 control pedals and 2 expression pedals to= control the usual looper features such as start, stop, rec, half speed, = reverse, undo etc. I also use 1 external but small control pedal to switch the FC-300 from s= tandard to control mode and back to standard mode. I'm not using the exte= rnal inputs of the FC-300, but you can connect 6 additional CTL pedals or= 3 expression pedals. Combinations are possible to. Hope this helps --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 15:40:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9432F3BE82; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CWTk_h43MtEA:10 a=JJiW1odSHKIA:10 a=WxBVSbXn5ECMUTshh-YA:9 a=tApolbVb9gbGDyejhsuKwf4xtRYA:4 a=GKdjhLjhtCkA:10 a=Kimtx665xSIA:10 a=CWfAmLVWKswA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080812102744.or017xt9ck4ocokc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <20080812102744.or017xt9ck4ocokc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <92D9BDAF-6510-4415-82E9-016D6A73D0EC@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Plug-ins, effects - what's in your basic tool box? Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:40:42 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <7v11_.A.lqG._7aoIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:40:47 +0000 (UTC) I'm using Ableton and just discovered puremagnetik.com. They create incredible effects and instruments from existing Ableton devices. Highly recommend, On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:27 AM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > I'm using VST FX with my laptop -- mainly because to set up and > transport the equipment is easier than with bulky hardware racks. > I like my hardware FX units better but I have had to travel light > to play outside of my studio. > > The other nice thing about VST (computer-based) FX is that I can > have multiple instances of an effect at different places in the > signal chain. > > I use an input strip with insert effects: > > Reverb, Delay Modeler, Overdrive, Chorus, Phaser, Ring Modulation > > Currently I send to four instances of "Double Delay" and a Surround > Reverb. Each Send is routed through an independent panner. > > Each instance of Double Delay sends to Surround Reverb. > > The reverb on my Input strip is used to generate "bigger than life" > reverbs while the Surround Reverb sets up the Surround Sound field. > > Panning is extremely important to me. I could live without the > insert fx but I wouldn't want to give up the panning. > > In a previous post, I spoke of my experiments with a bucket brigade > configuration and I look forward to utilizing this and integrating > the LP1 into my setup. > > -- Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 16:02:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5448E3BE82; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:00:31 -0500 Subject: RE: I/O was: Guitar Rig Thread-Topic: I/O was: Guitar Rig Thread-Index: Acj8XV2rNLL6anHjTXa4G7RNXQf/bQAMtEeO Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B888B10B4@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <20080812070620.7FDE03BE77@arsenic.violacea.com>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B888B10B4barqsailpoint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:02:35 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B888B10B4barqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > BTW, I got my extremely cheap copy of Guitar Rig 2.2 from here: > > http://www.softwarevending.com/... > > It appears that it's even legal... Sites like this are rarely legal. This one seems to sell only older versions which makes their story about buying "overstocks and auctions" a bit more believable. But normally "OEM" software is licensed for distribution with a computer or piece of hardware and almost all OEM licenses forbid you from selling the software separately from the hardware. Here's a link to an article about this: http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/faq/a/softwarescams.htm These paragraphs from their FAQ page seems odd: You get the full, downloadable version of your software. When you will download it , your software will be automatically registered to you and you will receive activation key, serial number or CD key necessary to activate your software. Automatically registered? Hmm, since they seem to be going out of their way to avoid the work of shipping manuals and CDs why go through the effort to register the software for you? Even though you are not able to register the product online you will be able to receive automatic updates of the most programs. When updates are ready to install you will see a popup window or an icon at the right bottom corner of your screen. Then you have to click on the icon and follow the instructions. Hmm, I don't get a popup window or icon at the right bottom corner for any of the other commercial software I own. These are most likely hacked. You don't register because they've already registered the single license they own and they're just selling copies. The "key" you get is either a copy of theirs or something that works only with their hacked version. The magic icon that notifies you when an update is ready suggests this is also spyware sending messages back to the mother ship to check for upgrades (along with who knows what they've managed to scrape from the keyboard and display devices). If you've got a firewall make sure you disable communication back to this domain. Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B888B10B4barqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


    > BTW, I got my extremely cheap copy of Guitar Rig 2.2 from here:
    >
    > http://www.softwarevending= .com/...
    >
    > It appears that it's even legal...

     

    Sites like this are rarely legal.  This one seems to sell only olde= r
    versions which makes their story about buying "overstocks and
    auctions" a bit more believable.  But normally "OEM" so= ftware is
    licensed for distribution with a computer or piece of hardware and
    almost all OEM licenses forbid you from selling the software
    separately from the hardware.

     

    Here's a link to an article about this:

     

      http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/faq/a/softwarescams.htm

     

    These paragraphs from their FAQ page seems odd:

     

      You get the full, downloadable version of your software. When you= will
      download it , your software will be automatically registered to you<= br>   and you will receive activation key, serial number or CD key necessa= ry
      to activate your software.

     

    Automatically registered?  Hmm, since they seem to be going out of<= br> their way to avoid the work of shipping manuals and CDs why go through
    the effort to register the software for you?

     

      Even though you are not able to register the product online you w= ill
      be able to receive automatic updates of the most programs. When
      updates are ready to install you will see a popup window or an icon = at
      the right bottom corner of your screen. Then you have to click on th= e
      icon and follow the instructions.

     

    Hmm, I don't get a popup window or icon at the right bottom corner for any of the other commercial software I own.  These are most likely
    hacked.  You don't register because they've already registered the
    single license they own and they're just selling copies.  The
    "key" you get is either a copy of theirs or something that works = only
    with their hacked version.  The magic icon that notifies you when an update is ready suggests this is also spyware sending messages back to
    the mother ship to check for upgrades (along with who knows what
    they've managed to scrape from the keyboard and display devices). If
    you've got a firewall make sure you disable communication back to this
    domain.

     

     

    Jeff

    --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B888B10B4barqsailpoint_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 16:06:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 131123BE80; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:06:38 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: RE: MIDI foot controllers Gordius MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <0o5lZ.A.qSH.QUboIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi Xavier, I'm very interested to talk with you about the FC-300 + LP1 combi and see= what the possibilities are vs what can be done for a certain price. Some= ideas: track status, current track, current BPM, tempo led, reverse, hal= f speed...that kind of info. Besides that, I would like to send PC's to m= y synths. Were do you live in Belgium? I'm from Antwerpen :) As you know, I'm organ= izing a Live Looping event in Antwerpen in (probably) May 2009 and if thi= ngs are going well there will be several LP1 loopers too using FCB1010's = and FC-300's. A nice opportunity for you to talk with them and other loop= ers about your product. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 16:18:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F5763BE82; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=YzbcoiNdK4T1FrDpgwWSKDALJ7ZrT6c/EArAztQ2OeE=; b=eq5IA0hqPvbwZVuICqzmCnlVN1ikAnvEjsmdBkg9OOUY//iqpw6ipsIxFTh1HfKtjA euYmwEknFiDMSLYDeGQ/SgpD5ym4xO4DnQNgRzyj9WbjBwTGT1bXaEgZbwv6YpES5n7n LEVQg9IxlTk7iYuGGwIKP4X61t443bFVv9Ds0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=W532krz848Q2GxKA8coUEbaSreYg8BSDpM6sjt1Vs/gt6St02hcQb/uUKfJPY/FA0b X7En/KOL2XLDJzIQVPfvmt/WjQSCvEtHmk5Nwof5PWskm2QIT0+uakiNiNMUz0qK8KiY Q2B4c/GHZNrKhj3rVA4BwYZNwpvV6vZxoa/a4= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808120918x3df4263xa20ddb0ca66e2f94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:18:09 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Plug-ins, effects - what's in your basic tool box? In-Reply-To: <20080812102744.or017xt9ck4ocokc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080812102744.or017xt9ck4ocokc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:18:11 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:27 PM, wrote: > I use an input strip with insert effects: > > Reverb, Delay Modeler, Overdrive, Chorus, Phaser, Ring Modulation > > Currently I send to four instances of "Double Delay" and a Surround Reverb. > Each Send is routed through an independent panner. I'd like to listen to that at a good surround speaker concert! Over here I use only insert effects, no send effects. The reason is that I think that gives me more control to create all kinds of synthetic ambience by looping techniques. I do have mega huge reverb etc but only as part an input channel strip. I use twenty input channel stripes that I can swap between by foot pedals, with a "preserve reverb tail" functionality when going from one patch into another. So I can call up a certain sound patch just for one note if needed. Inside some channel stripe's there are local send effect loops, though. I look at these twenty sound options as colors and the looper as the canvas. A canvas that can also be deformed (looping techniques as pitch, rate and obscure scripting) to change the viewers perspective on whatever I put on the canvas. There are some effect plug-ins that already include advanced signal patching and I have two favorites here, both from AudioDamage: Discord v2 and Ronin. Discord offers good pitch shifting combined with delay and the delay can be tapped and led back to the input as effect loop. Can give some Eventide-ish sound, typically escalating/diving delay repeats. Ronin also has some filters and an input envelope, which means you may assign the level of any sound input to parameters, typically having the input lowering the feedback from 100% to 30% in a looper - maybe that fix can be called "an auto looper"? If you don't play at all the last noise you did make will loop for ever but every sound you make will duck the loop and fit into a sound pocket of its own size. AudioDamage sells a very good tape delay simulating plug-in that I'm interested in. Logic can do that kind of dubby stuff, but I don't have a good solution for that on the Mobius PC nor on non-logic looping in OS X either (you can do it in Ableton Live too with its built-in stuff, but I'd rather prefer hosting plug-ins in Bidule on OS X as well as XP. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 16:22:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B93FB3BE82; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=nnL3BoR6oBnD3ArnxbKUsKuT5rj83CO+RlEuxsQjThFWSCSdUXKFZa43zj7MZaZ8ikRtMQFEiKZEJW+b926/8hKI0TPca5gGzs1T5RwACuBoLUj/Kp3E/7scK5FPs/vid4rqwZR2mZLESYP7Lyu6lXgH7jOFBjcA5I42UpgmUGk=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:22:11 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: Campaign to make more CFCs for Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1000905059-1218558131=:30426" Message-ID: <935934.30426.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:22:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-1000905059-1218558131=:30426 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi again all, I hadn't seen this message forwarded over to Looper's Delight from the Repeater User's Group yet, so thought I'd pass it along. Esserband on that group is attempting to start a campaign to help out Repeater User's with their CFC needs. See the forwarded message below. Since I sent this over, and am a Repeater User's Group member--if you are NOT a Repeater User's Group Member but are interested in supporting the campaign, send me a reply, and I'll make sure to forward the statements on to the Repeater User's Group. Best, David Durian Okay, now here's the message.... >From Brother984@... Mon Aug 11 13:22:08 2008 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:13:38 -0000 To: repeater-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Campaign to make more CFC's I just spoke with someone at Tima-tec, the company selling the last of=20 the 256 and up CFC's for the repeater. He told me that if there was=20 enough of a market for the 512 and 256 cards the company would produce=20 more. As of today (8/11/08) they are sold out of 512's and almost out=20 of 256's. If anyone else is willing it might be worth while to pool our=20 efforts and send requeusts for these cards if we want them to be=20 manufactured again. Just thought I'd let you all know, Thanks=20 --0-1000905059-1218558131=:30426 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi again al= l,

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    I hadn't= seen this message forwarded over to Looper's Delight from the Repeater Use= r's Group yet, so thought I'd pass it along.

    Esserband on that group is attempting t= o start a campaign to help out Repeater User's with their CFC needs. See th= e forwarded message below.

    Since I sent this over, and am a Repeater User's Group memb= er--if you are NOT a Repeater User's Group Member but are interested in supporting the campaign= , send me a reply, and I'll make sure to forward the statements on to the R= epeater User's Group.

    Best,

    David Durian

    Okay, now here's the message....


    From=A0Br= other984@...=A0Mon Aug 11 13:22:08 2008
    Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:13= :38 -0000
    To:=A0repeater-users@yahoogroups.com
    Subject:= Campaign to make more CFC's

    I just spoke with someone at Tima-tec, = the company selling the last of=3D20
    the 256 and up CFC's for the repeat= er. He told me that if there was=3D20
    enough of a market for the 512 and= 256 cards the company would produce=3D20
    more. As of today (8/11/08) th= ey are sold out of 512's and almost out=3D20
    of 256's. If anyone else is= willing it might be worth while to pool our=3D20
    efforts and send requeusts for th= ese cards if we want them to be=3D20
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    =0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1000905059-1218558131=:30426-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 16:27:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 164503BE82; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=l+zEeZcoetiHJTjaIVcUf5v0Qbdg8uaQtIuso3EmHFY=; b=iHxgvW9UrEALLbIKY/t7js69D37AQ/92ofE2lx/5K4X19oo1VMRh6or/efu03OlHt9 PzWK5VEpkX/OCxky4t5pwe+PUe9ggEx19iiTu7HqcmXqGYwq6wODU8f5xrIBcD+Yim2x dYMYmlRcjdjI6iZxb2InEc5AlRZToDocBgn68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Qw1j57vCKmVWECcCbyvHctYUOZpE3IIhNBw9mt22J4XDmtRYImcSUfA975K3U0Rzd5 eYWnjDuGiGikCtQa3neJOCogGtEYpfFxKmffVWZ4wlFHWq/OjgOLmKzFUs0rQkAO6Dh0 5+mLU+WfJgrUwTwg7+mZ/QZuzoKWPabnxgdV4= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:27:30 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I/O was: Guitar Rig In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B888B10B4@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_82503_29863103.1218558450309" References: <20080812070620.7FDE03BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B888B10B4@barq.sailpoint.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2-ZN3B.A.J1H.1nboIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:27:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_82503_29863103.1218558450309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ugh! OK, I will check into this. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_82503_29863103.1218558450309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Ugh! OK, I will check into this.

    --
    Mark Smart
    http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
    http://www.marksmart.net
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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <686626.77872.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Esteemed Loopers: I've asked questions before on the listserv regarding live looping with oth= er musicians, and have pretty much decided the best way is to assure the dr= ummer and the bassist (and the guitarist/looper) clearly hear the loop trac= k. Adrian Belew apparently ascribes to the same methodology according to th= e June issue of Guitar Player: "What tips can you offer for integrating looping into live performance with= other musicians?" "First of all, you have to have very good timing, because if you make a loo= p that=E2=80=99s the least bit off, you=E2=80=99ll have to erase it and rec= ord another one. The next thing is monitoring. You have to have a way to se= parate it out so that your bassist and drummer can hear as much of the loop= as they want. We just began experimenting with the Bose L1 system=E2=80=94= which is an amazing technology=E2=80=94and if that doesn=E2=80=99t work out= , we may go to in-ear monitors." Okay, do any of you know how you "separate it out," as Mr. Belew describes = it? I have a Gibson Echoplex. The EDP has one output. So, all I can imagine= is having an A/B box after the EDP, so that looped signal goes to the moni= tors but not the stuff you play over the loops. But that's a lot of tap dan= cing (i.e., complete the loop, hit the A/B box before playing over it or ov= erdubbing, remember to switch the A/B back before your next loop....). Any = thoughts would be appreciated.=0A=0A=0A From newsletter@streetblastradio.com Tue Aug 12 22:15:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 692 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:15:06 UTC Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E4C3BE75 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dd6dm7b1 (adsl-070-145-012-068.sip.sdf.bellsouth.net[70.145.12.68]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20080812220332H0500eclqie>; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:03:32 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [70.145.12.68] Organization: StreetBlast.com Reply-To: newsletter@streetblastradio.com Message-ID: <88f98ac790120046c80b3e630014ccf9@streetblastradio.com> From: "StreetBlast.com" To: Subject: Email Newsletter Update - Your Last E-mail? 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 12 22:45:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6770D3BE82; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re:Line 6 JM4, M13 was new looper Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:45:52 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c8fccd$2f97c570$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8FC92.8338ED70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acj8zSxhe1bxyekcTrS583lg70HHIA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:45:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8FC92.8338ED70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Front what I can tell, the new JM-4 doesn't do reverse or half speed and I doubt it can sync to midi clock. But hay how about those snazzy generic backing tracks????????????....Whatever.... But on the other hand , lurking inside the new Line 6 M-13 , which is essentially every modeler they have created in one unit, is a new and improved DL-4, that boasts 28 seconds of loop time at normal track speed (double that length for half speed), separate switches for half speed and reverse, and an undo function, and another feature with perhaps the most creative potential, a switch that allows you to toggle the looper between post and pre placement.Way Cool. I tried this with a filter model and a little delay to create a polyrhythm and it was really nice to be able to switch back and forth between having the loop processed and not. Still no midi sync as far as I can tell, though the tap tempo feature can sync up both delay and modulation effects. You have to hold a dedicated switch to enter loop mode but the switches for the looper are wisely placed on the two rows closest to the performer. The down side if there is one is having to pony up for all the extra modelers, but I think it retails for around $500 so for what it has to offer, an array of distortion, fuzz and overdrives, all of there great delays, modulation and filter models, reverbs, and upgraded looper, all running simultaneously, with more programmability, two expression pedal ports, etc., its pretty intriguing. It has newly designed switches, though whether they are more or less robust remains to be seen. They have a slightly less audible click from what I could tell. I have always been a fan of the DL-4, I understand a number of you have had issues with the switches, and it has been my experience that the main culprit in there failure for me has been when I have allowed the nuts attaching the switches to get loose. If they get loose enough it allows the switch to lean slightly and can cause the plunger to miss align on the contact switch, which, if done with enough force can even cause the little plastic cylinder in the spring, or even the spring itself to come off. So I make sure to, hmhhm, keep my nuts tight..If there is a bright side to this some what cheap design, the switches themselves are available from the company, unlike from some companies (behringer, are you listening?...no I didn't think so) , and though replacement requires removing the main board to get to, are easy to replace and fairly cheap. bill ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8FC92.8338ED70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

     Front what I can tell, the new JM-4 = doesn’t do reverse or half speed and I doubt it can sync to midi clock.  But = hay how about those snazzy generic backing = tracks????????????....Whatever……..

     But on the other hand , lurking inside the new = Line 6 M-13 , which is essentially every modeler they have created in one unit, = is a new and improved DL-4, that boasts 28 seconds of loop time at normal = track speed (double that length for half speed), separate switches for half = speed and reverse, and an undo function, and another feature with perhaps the most creative potential, a switch that allows you to toggle the looper = between post and pre placement…Way Cool. I tried this with a filter model and a = little delay to create a polyrhythm and it was really nice to be able to switch = back and forth between having the loop processed and not. Still no midi sync = as far as I can tell, though  the tap tempo feature can  sync up both = delay and modulation effects. You have to hold a dedicated switch to enter = loop mode but the switches for the looper are wisely placed on the two rows = closest to the performer. The down side if there is one is having to pony up for = all the extra modelers, but I think it retails for around $500 so for what it = has to offer, an array of distortion, fuzz and overdrives, all of there great = delays, modulation and filter models, reverbs, and upgraded looper, all running simultaneously, with more programmability, two expression pedal ports, = etc., its pretty intriguing. It has newly designed switches, though whether = they are more or less robust remains to be seen. They have a slightly less = audible click from what I could tell.

     I have always been a fan of the DL-4, I = understand a number of you have had issues with the switches, and it has been my = experience that the main culprit in there failure for me has been when I have = allowed the nuts attaching the switches to get loose. If they get loose enough it = allows the switch to lean slightly and can cause the plunger to miss align on = the contact switch, which, if done with enough force can even cause the = little plastic cylinder in the spring, or even the spring itself to come = off.  So I make sure to, hmhhm, keep my nuts tight….If there is a bright = side to this some what cheap design, the switches themselves are available from = the company, unlike from some companies (behringer, are you listening?...no I = didn’t think so) , and though replacement  requires removing the main = board to get to, are easy to replace and fairly = cheap.

     bill

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    Bill wrote
    >But hay how about those snazzy = generic backing=20 tracks????????????....Whatever=85=85.

    Yeah but Line 6 says:=20

    "These tracks aren=92t rigid and robotic; these are actual = recordings laid=20 down by A-list drummers, bass players and guitarists." =

    whatever indeed!

    > a switch that = allows you=20 to toggle the looper between post and pre placement=85Way Cool.=20


    Now that is cool! = The mind=20 boggles....thanks for pointing that out.

    Jeff

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    ---MOQ121859979867506408c29664358c649bf2f28f2579-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 13 05:39:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D7EE3BE87; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:39:04 UTC Message-Id: From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000b01c8fcf1$b97946f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: Line 6 JM4,M13 from Bill Walker X-Priority: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:32:26 -0700 References: <000b01c8fcf1$b97946f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:39:04 +0000 (UTC) The M13 looks pretty tempting. I keep trying to wean myself off of Line6 gear but I haven't managed to replace the DM4 mostly because of the sub octave fuzz. It would be a lot more portable for Y2K8 too... Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 13 09:38:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07FAB3BE89; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=jAgXPyN6+yY4yMfiy2KbX2e+rTnTEZciUxdvsFajOy0=; b=A6O4ti6qDsJSO1uK/xOZvEbASe/LRZuN9Pnc1mKuYj3EwMHihIHI0o+YSgx4e2UNfY 3G/frvBG/N5+VsQ8btvVpWfMgoqDu+xt+7DWU9NMROxqV0fuYzDSswOMAYR/snHGkTwD eP4DiNJ/IMAx1AXbIPMKhtWyC15/TMT4jl9kc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cmSS2I9MO4qL2jl6kEGxb4nPwnY7CDEEWcLj54ZNB36yv5AxKMsF9aDTfyBYrDwPoG v9BZk7CKO7cmBjj313S703EACbY0k7HzIUWPSR67PVuaFuBWbS60wh7DEmHeklRD8+nv grxfkbh8pgDOq6lC+F1bLy7AIQktRH7K6mcWg= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808130238p42b52176u1c93058c7363ff41@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:38:27 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Digi's Transfuser for live looping? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Has anyone tried to use Digidesigns Pro Tools plug-in Transfuser for live looping? -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 13 12:03:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A5723BE81; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=FrlGSOJhDYNlRzLzRne5ZQjoZzak4aPK2dKrwABeZag=; b=QCKW21z3oCnAKN/Fjn2TEclAs56D9s96lHC4hI4reCsIA9ALvKRzL1Hep6xCIhgF6c RlewbI43S+p7JEsB+LFYv61qgLL9tj7n4q5ylF0do7GzGz4YDzEBuxFZUz9xX0CZ8e1B oNoVMPP9w8sPSvUqwwjsAMUZem6Hd/8RH08j0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=PMWRMf7SNweREkQslsFwspJobrH6aRIRHtmZKLn8aoFH31BP9FXfWIh2bq0QiUL6gG UIdK6dFME5uJvdFSbM3SQj5C0RgooFqsyyCSaHhB7HMdquizrodD9mXUbDO5qmjTt7uA 4V0zDqh9Vzm/cGFRMWLz21+tfBihZspC8yWtg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:03:40 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: gt-10 phrase looper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_96997_7748374.1218629020035" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:03:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_96997_7748374.1218629020035 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline anybody using the phrase looper included in boss gt-10.is of any good for instant live tricks? i've read the manual and seems to do overdub, at least, but wondering if feedback control is possible. ot: any comparison to the oldie gt-3 (which i own). i love the acoustic simulator in this toy and i've based my tone for the warr (full range) in this effect. raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_96997_7748374.1218629020035 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    anybody using the phrase looper included in boss gt-10.
    is of any good for instant live tricks?

    i've read the manual and seems to do overdub, at least,
    but wondering if feedback control is possible.

    ot: any comparison to the oldie gt-3 (which i own).
    i love the acoustic simulator in this toy and i've
    based my tone for the warr (full range) in this effect.

    raul.
    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
    ------=_Part_96997_7748374.1218629020035-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 13 14:06:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34ADC3BE88; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=WVtsowdf3SRj5loyH48RVkV7rPoGtMWMw7n/YG+uejo=; b=g6fuh+f5oukkkeKBHJ6s3YMTl/zvr5OPiH3ESA51vC6hnABiEaLf1YOksQGpjj6rQc O7scYfmJ4qA7Hq7Cj6NSodclc8orMiq7qf+CgKdSHJ1NxYQDWSRc55KDBA4WH9QZKuBc iYE3+VJCsJ3cY/LacXvnWM/cc6AevCu2usv0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RFbajLtkA0VCw1BeU/QEBZZpj0CB2B7K12RFfzPpKZwt5i68WYd32ummD5QDZXTu7b g1/8aI787B2Y6l/eAKdgEBScfTnNANvlpKLiLcswkdgl186c3xd2cDzzcX1P7dm19Kzo DRoyvh/k9+eAGLYv3uIGqXfJ+ldjJH8k/XYoA= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:06:28 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: fx VS. clean. WAS: Plug-ins, effects - what's in your basic tool box? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_97835_6903889.1218636389039" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:06:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_97835_6903889.1218636389039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i rely on the clean sound of the instrument and focus with functions each looper has to offer, formerly. then when i reckon i've gone *quite* far with the looper+clean instrument, it's time to test some effect chains. anyway, i use to like more the clean stuff normally. it reveals more of the looper (the machine/application) soul than when using a lot of coloring effects. massive effects more interesting when used in short parts among/sorrounded by instrument (better said, yOUr tone) /looper. so for me it's more like: still practising your instrument, since al last, that's what people will see when performing. but now, the looper is part of your instrument. so practise/develop combined techniques with the toy. ... o.k. i'm going to bed immediatelly. raul. 2008/8/12 Per Boysen > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:27 PM, wrote: > > > I use an input strip with insert effects: > > > > Reverb, Delay Modeler, Overdrive, Chorus, Phaser, Ring Modulation > > > > Currently I send to four instances of "Double Delay" and a Surround > Reverb. > > Each Send is routed through an independent panner. > > > I'd like to listen to that at a good surround speaker concert! Over > here I use only insert effects, no send effects. The reason is that I > think that gives me more control to create all kinds of synthetic > ambience by looping techniques. I do have mega huge reverb etc but > only as part an input channel strip. I use twenty input channel > stripes that I can swap between by foot pedals, with a "preserve > reverb tail" functionality when going from one patch into another. So > I can call up a certain sound patch just for one note if needed. > Inside some channel stripe's there are local send effect loops, > though. I look at these twenty sound options as colors and the looper > as the canvas. A canvas that can also be deformed (looping techniques > as pitch, rate and obscure scripting) to change the viewers > perspective on whatever I put on the canvas. > > There are some effect plug-ins that already include advanced signal > patching and I have two favorites here, both from AudioDamage: Discord > v2 and Ronin. Discord offers good pitch shifting combined with delay > and the delay can be tapped and led back to the input as effect loop. > Can give some Eventide-ish sound, typically escalating/diving delay > repeats. Ronin also has some filters and an input envelope, which > means you may assign the level of any sound input to parameters, > typically having the input lowering the feedback from 100% to 30% in a > looper - maybe that fix can be called "an auto looper"? If you don't > play at all the last noise you did make will loop for ever but every > sound you make will duck the loop and fit into a sound pocket of its > own size. > > AudioDamage sells a very good tape delay simulating plug-in that I'm > interested in. Logic can do that kind of dubby stuff, but I don't have > a good solution for that on the Mobius PC nor on non-logic looping in > OS X either (you can do it in Ableton Live too with its built-in > stuff, but I'd rather prefer hosting plug-ins in Bidule on OS X as > well as XP. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_97835_6903889.1218636389039 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    i rely on the clean sound of the instrument and focus with functions each looper has to offer, formerly. then when i reckon i've gone *quite* far with the looper+clean instrument, it's time to test some effect chains.

    anyway, i use to like more the clean stuff normally. it reveals more of the looper (the machine/application) soul than when using a lot of coloring effects.

    massive effects more interesting when used in short parts  among/sorrounded by instrument (better said, yOUr tone) /looper.

    so for me it's more like: still practising your instrument, since al last, that's what people will see when performing.
    but now, the looper is part of your instrument. so practise/develop combined techniques with the toy.

    ... o.k. i'm going to bed immediatelly.

    raul.


    2008/8/12 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
    On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:27 PM,  <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:

    > I use an input strip with insert effects:
    >
    > Reverb, Delay Modeler, Overdrive, Chorus, Phaser, Ring Modulation
    >
    > Currently I send to four instances of "Double Delay" and a Surround Reverb.
    >  Each Send is routed through an independent panner.


    I'd like to listen to that at a good surround speaker concert! Over
    here I use only insert effects, no send effects. The reason is that I
    think that gives me more control to create all kinds of synthetic
    ambience by looping techniques. I do have mega huge reverb etc but
    only as part an input channel strip. I use twenty input channel
    stripes that I can swap between by foot pedals, with a "preserve
    reverb tail" functionality when going from one patch into another. So
    I can call up a certain sound patch just for one note if needed.
    Inside some channel stripe's there are local send effect loops,
    though. I look at these twenty sound options as colors and the looper
    as the canvas. A canvas that can also be deformed (looping techniques
    as pitch, rate and obscure scripting) to change the viewers
    perspective on whatever I put on the canvas.

    There are some effect plug-ins that already include advanced signal
    patching and I have two favorites here, both from AudioDamage: Discord
    v2 and Ronin. Discord offers good pitch shifting combined with delay
    and the delay can be tapped and led back to the input as effect loop.
    Can give some Eventide-ish sound, typically escalating/diving delay
    repeats. Ronin also has some filters and an input envelope, which
    means you may assign the level of any sound input to parameters,
    typically having the input lowering the feedback from 100% to 30% in a
    looper - maybe that fix can be called "an auto looper"? If you don't
    play at all the last noise you did make will loop for ever but every
    sound you make will duck the loop and fit into a sound pocket of its
    own size.

    AudioDamage sells a very good tape delay simulating plug-in that I'm
    interested in. Logic can do that kind of dubby stuff, but I don't have
    a good solution for that on the Mobius PC nor on non-logic looping in
    OS X either (you can do it in Ableton Live too with its built-in
    stuff, but I'd rather prefer hosting plug-ins in Bidule on OS X as
    well as XP.

    --
    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)
    www.myspace.com/perboysen
    www.stockholm-athens.com




    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
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References: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010620r28de0635h6ca964d3fb6a4371@mail.gmail.com> <489310F8.1050000@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0808010704u6ac02b37q19ea90a7c49b5c67@mail.gmail.com> <489BDFA8.60808@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: <489BDFA8.60808@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1wIunB.A.zAG.ZBzoIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Stefan Tiedje schrieb: > mark francombe schrieb: >> ys i saw the faderfox in action when Per was playing... Liked it, but >> IM TALKING TINY!!!! Aint there anything REALLY SMALL?? Like matchbox >> small? > > Tiny? its called Faderbaby. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 13 23:30:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6D733BE84; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=La8LHpVOoXi6HUCxkjNr7kxfJoMju8B9ysF0zKutFR0=; b=f29bT5m5G2DBW4Fh8ZyqTPJuL7TgYMwJF1/7NwUYvymD3IX+lzbRXUt2wQewrNX/ac G83w+gqm0ERiN4/UJvRK1OFWqn2Hcd4Ncbt8HaujYI3xfcXp6yrJXw7HK2N2zQBF/YPE s2wjoU94X6Q8KOGn1krvocy+ltm0AdcT5r5Jc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EnOKYnNBW8CqETV957JsJKvGDMzaBYSA6nONxVd6tafilfFi+E+XP0nB1GDAGS4qp8 xbdAUqi5jjPRH/UYc6DNtP6DzsW1PMDzT9QtlWVOuhPcPLEDy9DzLxnJb0vWU0JNfUwa d+fwTjl+CqozBi2zByhPZkP9IOmJFUZeWCYCw= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:30:53 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_139970_27482320.1218670253776" Resent-Message-ID: <3BAngB.A.xPG.u62oIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:30:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_139970_27482320.1218670253776 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Is there a setting on the echoplex that when i push overdub it turns on through the loop but then automatically shuts off when the loop ends? ------=_Part_139970_27482320.1218670253776 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Is there a setting on the echoplex that when i push overdub it turns on through the loop but then automatically shuts off when the loop ends?
    ------=_Part_139970_27482320.1218670253776-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 01:43:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49E373BE88; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: Line 6 JM4,M13 from Bill Walker Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:43:21 -0700 Message-ID: <002601c8fdaf$256f3b90$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8FD74.79106390" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj9ryI/CPiynOseSje9TdzJ1RRSbw== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:43:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8FD74.79106390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My dismissal of the backing track concept has more to do with my own hopes that the new Line six Jam product was more of a straight ahead looper with more memory, features, and midi sync capability so I could jam with my real ( not canned) Loop pals in sync. Obviously I already have that capability with the LP-1, I just had hoped some one would do it in a floor box size unit, and it's obvious from my latest reply that the RC-50 won't be doing that anytime soon. Here is the reply: "Hello William, The syncing feature on the RC-50 is intermittent. We alerted Roland/BOSS Japan to this, but have not heard if or when they are planning to release an update for it in the future. Sincerely, Roland Product Support" Actually, I'm glad line 6 went to the trouble to get real musicians to play backing tracks. I have nothing against things like the GDEC for that matter, if they help and encourage someone to play more and hopefully get better. I realize they are targeting a much different market than me, more of the beginner entry level or weekend jammer type person. I wish I was lord and ruler of the loop technology universe and people like the Roland Corporation would actually listen to me, take my suggestions, and build loop products that would keep all of you, newbie or expert, happy as little girls, or boys, and singing my praises for ever, as you enjoy my highly intuitive, expertly crafted, and incredibly full featured loop products. The fact that the M13 includes many of the improvements to the DL-4 that people on this very list have wished for, gives me hope that at least they are listening to there public. Perhaps they are re tooling to create a second generation DL-4. Incidentally, the M-13 is a little wider than a standard large line 6 modeler and a little over twice as deep, and about as heavy as two L6 modelers. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8FD74.79106390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

     My dismissal of the = backing track concept has more to do with my own hopes that the new Line six Jam product was more of a straight ahead looper with more memory, =  features,  and midi sync capability so I could jam with my real ( not canned) Loop pals = in sync. Obviously I already have that capability with the LP-1, I just had = hoped some one would do it in a floor box size unit, and it’s obvious = from my latest reply that the RC-50 won’t be doing that anytime soon. Here = is the reply:

     “<= font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New">Hello William,

    The syncing feature = on the RC-50 is intermittent. We alerted Roland/BOSS Japan to this, but have = not heard if or when they are planning to release an update for it in the = future. 

     

    Sincerely,

    Roland Product = Support”

     

      Actually, I’m glad line 6 went to = the trouble to get real musicians to play backing tracks. I have nothing = against things like the GDEC for that matter, if they help and encourage someone = to play more and hopefully get better. I realize they are targeting a much different market than me, more of the beginner entry level or weekend = jammer type person.  I wish I was lord and ruler of the loop technology = universe and people like the Roland Corporation would actually listen to me, take = my suggestions, and build loop products that would keep all of you, newbie = or expert, happy as little girls, or boys, and singing my praises for ever, = as you enjoy my highly intuitive, expertly crafted, and incredibly full = featured loop products. The fact that the M13 includes many of the improvements to the = DL-4 that people on this very list have wished for, gives me hope that at = least they are listening to there public. Perhaps they are re tooling to create a = second generation DL-4. Incidentally, the M-13 is a little wider than a = standard large line 6 modeler and a little over twice as deep, and about as heavy as = two L6 modelers.
    Bill

    ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C8FD74.79106390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 02:10:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AB163BE82; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:10:05 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=pD+2l1Nv7SjET6Hwem6cjSjS6tkMpw/1SzEzoqLogXACspO4rTM5RWCBF8439pJ/X70WAwWq1LDCmk+p3cRBNV4xjwxkOqQA71Mbll52JqUZi8tZ50SILh0Sr84CwNGS7zucO7tGDEzxvEz+dSgwSbw1TemM4sE0TeCBr2OhwV8=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:03:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Reply-To: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Line 6 JM4,M13 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002601c8fdaf$256f3b90$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1081863525-1218679403=:34530" Message-ID: <761015.34530.qm@web35104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:10:06 +0000 (UTC) --0-1081863525-1218679403=:34530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One of the things that strikes me about the JM4 is that it doesn't do anyth= ing that I can do with, say, Acid. I can cut sections out of songs (or just= specify loop points) =A0and loop them and, hence, jam with the Allman Brot= hers, Tony Levin, Kenny Burrell, whoever - without too much prep work. =A0 Assumedly, this device is=A0targeted at non-PC users. I considered acquirin= g one for about 5 minutes - until I realized I can do essentially the same = thing with my PC. The M13 does look interesting though. =A0 Regards, Paul =A0 =A0 =A0=0A=0A=0A --0-1081863525-1218679403=:34530 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

    One of the things that strikes me about the JM4 is that it doesn't do anything that I can do with, say, Acid. I can cut sections out of songs (or just specify loop points)  and loop them and, hence, jam with the Allman Brothers, Tony Levin, Kenny Burrell, whoever - without too much prep work.
     
    Assumedly, this device is targeted at non-PC users. I considered acquiring one for about 5 minutes - until I realized I can do essentially the same thing with my PC. The M13 does look interesting though.
     
    Regards, Paul
     

     
     

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    On the M13, according to the ‘advanced users = guide’ found here: http://line6.com/support/manua= ls/ , the looper now has expression pedal control of not only loop volume, = but feedback. Wow…its about time!

     

     

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Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:Line 6 JM4, M13 was new looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, billwalker@baymoon.com In-Reply-To: <000301c8fccd$2f97c570$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <74716.34008.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2iSg3.A.lLC.NdApIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Bill, 2 questions bro: distortions how good?(fuzz,ods etc.) can its switch board control call devices simultaneously in different channels like the fcb1010 via midi? cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 8/12/08, William Walker wrote: > From: William Walker > Subject: Re:Line 6 JM4, M13 was new looper > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 3:45 PM > Front what I can tell, the new JM-4 doesn't do reverse > or half speed and I > doubt it can sync to midi clock. But hay how about those > snazzy generic > backing tracks????????????....Whatever.... > > But on the other hand , lurking inside the new Line 6 M-13 > , which is > essentially every modeler they have created in one unit, is > a new and > improved DL-4, that boasts 28 seconds of loop time at > normal track speed > (double that length for half speed), separate switches for > half speed and > reverse, and an undo function, and another feature with > perhaps the most > creative potential, a switch that allows you to toggle the > looper between > post and pre placement.Way Cool. I tried this with a filter > model and a > little delay to create a polyrhythm and it was really nice > to be able to > switch back and forth between having the loop processed and > not. Still no > midi sync as far as I can tell, though the tap tempo > feature can sync up > both delay and modulation effects. You have to hold a > dedicated switch to > enter loop mode but the switches for the looper are wisely > placed on the two > rows closest to the performer. The down side if there is > one is having to > pony up for all the extra modelers, but I think it retails > for around $500 > so for what it has to offer, an array of distortion, fuzz > and overdrives, > all of there great delays, modulation and filter models, > reverbs, and > upgraded looper, all running simultaneously, with more > programmability, two > expression pedal ports, etc., its pretty intriguing. It has > newly designed > switches, though whether they are more or less robust > remains to be seen. > They have a slightly less audible click from what I could > tell. > > I have always been a fan of the DL-4, I understand a > number of you have had > issues with the switches, and it has been my experience > that the main > culprit in there failure for me has been when I have > allowed the nuts > attaching the switches to get loose. If they get loose > enough it allows the > switch to lean slightly and can cause the plunger to miss > align on the > contact switch, which, if done with enough force can even > cause the little > plastic cylinder in the spring, or even the spring itself > to come off. So I > make sure to, hmhhm, keep my nuts tight..If there is a > bright side to this > some what cheap design, the switches themselves are > available from the > company, unlike from some companies (behringer, are you > listening?...no I > didn't think so) , and though replacement requires > removing the main board > to get to, are easy to replace and fairly cheap. > > bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 10:24:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0826C3BE84; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:23:54 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48A407BA.8040007@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:24:22 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll continur the month-long Special Focus on Frank Van Bogaert. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Human" the Groove label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#aug Become a friend of Galactic Travels on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 10:29:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D41D63BE90; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=5IduL4Vkrr9vpr0nkMrZeeSjrrJrppx+oa/pf352WK63S4nZ6lAa82eYGCf9rWMWslyeNzArh6KxRQBxj35cSEEDfIKdvo3eAaWY1wYGGSHvFIE5qL5WL2+7xel9gcMdTt/k0gdk4vF+UhFbd56u5jvcNrSZpPeTHHz9RHj/2dk=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:29:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:FC-300 / LP1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <560217.89467.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:29:13 +0000 (UTC) hmm...also if it could somehow read the patch screen information of the bos= s GT-PRO it would be cooool! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: Re:FC-300 / LP1 > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:30 AM > > do you know if you can edit the program change messages > sent in > > standard mode? for example if the bank number display > says 01, you > > can have the program change message be 23 (instead of > 01). i don't > > own an FC300 but i've been trying to figure this > out from the manual. >=20 > Hi Zoe, > I'm back again. I checked a few things but as I > expected you can't change the corresponding program > change number itself in standard mode. >=20 > The good news is that the FC-300 has 4 modes including the > very powerful patch mode. This is where the FC-300 shines > imo if you need flexibility and I think this mode offers > what you want. >=20 > - User definable patch names > - Patch ON and OFF commands, including program change > - CTL pedal ON and OFF commands, including program change > - The EXP pedals and EXP pedal switches can be assigned to > up to six (!)messages to be transmitted > - You can also assign one message to be transmitted to each > of the pedals > connected to the rear panel=E2=80=99s EXP PEDAL/CTL jacks and > FC-300=E2=80=99s CTL pedals. > - The midi channel is user definable per CC or PC message, > so you are able to control multiple devices on different > midi channels. >=20 > I have used patch mode myself, it works very good. However, > I'm currently using a combination of standard mode and > control mode to control an LP1. The LP1 can execute 8 > functions per program change or control message, so you can > program it to do multiple things with the same CC or PC > message. >=20 > With standard mode I select the track number on the LP1, so > patch 1 =3D track 1, patch 2 =3D track 2 etc. I only have to > look at the floor to the FC-300 to see my current track. > Just to be sure :) >=20 > With the control mode I have 12 control pedals and 2 > expression pedals to control the usual looper features such > as start, stop, rec, half speed, reverse, undo etc. >=20 > I also use 1 external but small control pedal to switch the > FC-300 from standard to control mode and back to standard > mode. I'm not using the external inputs of the FC-300, > but you can connect 6 additional CTL pedals or 3 expression > pedals. 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    --0-230130441-1218709603=:34494-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 10:35:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2D463BE95; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:35:24 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:FC-300 / LP1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:35:26 +0000 (UTC) > Luis wrote: > hmm...also if it could somehow read the patch screen information of the= boss GT-PRO it would be cooool! > You mean the GT-Pro patch name displayed on the FC-300? The VG-99 and FC-= 300 combi does that --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 11:05:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67E3A3BE89; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=hxi3PtiiriJbrjg2qXE7/3TnTcD8MRGJ2R0fdlyjwgBpfe+5LGoz3UNjWfMcSi2AG9xxLofjex6cnNmwHUHjHSvMUEUm82M7/1WurNkN60FG6Wox1FyMNkIR2w2ZeFpdTJvvqiZxYhyuwRqLntyR9Su0VC2Q/6G294cgfOoJqX4=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:05:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Looping Dilemna 2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4896CEC1.9090705@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <107686.62795.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:05:58 +0000 (UTC) I used to do a long loop with half speed on and turn it back to normal with the loop running twice as fast as a backing effect which would trigger the drum machine at a normal speed as well.Then i would start layering things on top. Another option would be tapping record and ending the loop to trigger your desired drum machine speed with its volume down and doing long multiplied overdubs which will not affect the speed of the drum box,then slowly fade the backing beat. These days i dont use synced drumboxes anymore,although i recently did a gig in konstanz where i used my sampler to run a steady backing sample while i improvise,but its all fun! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 8/4/08, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: Looping Dilemna 2 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 2:41 AM > Aaron Austin wrote: > > I am synced out to a drum machine and so when i do a > phrase then press > > the 2nd record the drums come in with me but if i loop > a long phrase it > > makes the tempo REALLY SLOW. How can i loop more than > a one bar phrase > > without the ehoplex trying to sync at a tempo like > twenty do i HAVE to > > set the one bar and then multiply? > > that would fix it > > Or is it all in my Qauntize/8thscycle > > setting? > > that would also seem like a fix, you could give it a go, > just work out how many beats in your loop. > > ...but if your timing isn't totally metronomic > throughout the loop > the drums won't be in time for all of it. > > > Another option > > InsertMode=Ins > > Hit Record > Play first bar > Hit Insert > Play the rest of the loop. > Hit Insert > > andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 11:07:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48B653BE8B; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=1YBdyg5XY3N30bzuURoxGf5M0G5re8iJf03Eghv4ryzACSojf8eZBmyvjVu6rGWSWI5SnKOoFP6ZtrNBzxAiSnKmtkamP3GDxsVUqhVkQiRyqF5kgIauJgStfjKetDmDoLFqbhYnUosJY+bVLTxw7+t7jIgG28CBhKbATFY26NA=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:07:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:FC-300 / LP1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <139607.97058.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Yes Sjaak thats what i mean, in the website in only mentions the vg99 so i am wondering if it will do the same with the GT-PRO cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 8/14/08, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: Re:FC-300 / LP1 > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 3:35 AM > > Luis wrote: > > hmm...also if it could somehow read the patch screen > information of the boss GT-PRO it would be cooool! > > > > You mean the GT-Pro patch name displayed on the FC-300? The > VG-99 and FC-300 combi does that > > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 12:21:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 112B13BE89; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:21:28 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:FC-300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:21:31 +0000 (UTC) > Yes Sjaak thats what i mean, in the website in only mentions the vg99 s= o i am wondering if it will do the same with the GT-PRO The FC-300 webpage says "In addition to standard MIDI connection, newly d= eveloped RRC2 protocol adapted for bidirectional data flow between FC-300= and Roland RRC2-equipped products". As far as I know, you need the RRC2 = protocol to display the patch names. Nice feature though --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 12:35:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A368C3BE8A; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <011c01c8fe0a$4ddd3590$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:35:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Haven't had time to read this whole thread but wanted to lay a salient nugget of wisdom I learned years ago from one of the chief sound design engineers with Crown (a producer who helped to design the pressure zone microphone for Crown). THE CHEAPEST WAY TO SOUND PROOF A ROOM WITHOUT FUNDS: If you go into your room in the middle of the day and can see a pin prick of light when the lights are turned off, you are losing a whopping 40% of all the sound to the outside. As he explained it, a room full of air is like a vessel full of water. One pinprick in that vessel and the water will come out a high pressure. If you can make the room light tight, you immediately reduce the output of volume (especially bass waves which travel furthest) of the room by 40%. Foam does virtually nothing, according to this guy, except to reduce the high frequency content of the audio WITHIN the room. It is bass waves that are the greatest offenders because of their large size. >From what I have heard (and I"m not expert) a 30 cycle bass wave is something like 16 feet long. That's for one stinking sine wave (the fundamental) and twice that for the first subsonic below it. Foam will make a dry sounding room as Stefan pointed out and since every room is , in essence , a shitty reverb unless you've spent some major bucks to make it a really good acoustical space, it's better to have a deader environment (internal foaming = good) and then use expensive reverbs or, better yet (for the champagne living on a beer budget recordist) inexpensive or free convolution , software reverbs with really good acoustically modelled impulse files of real reverberant spaces (read the freeware SIR convolution reverb...........see the archives of my Audio Plugin Junkies Annonymous tribe at tribe.net for those URLS) The easiest way to fill all the holes in a darkened room is to go out and buy a caulking gun full of silicone caulk. You literally turn out the lights and walk around caulking holes in the room (pinprick sources of light) until the entire room is perfectly light tight. Voila, you have now made your room as soundproof as possible short of spending $3,000 USD or equivalent to build an entire box within a box (yeppers, that means raising the floor, lowering the roof and building four walls around you that are insulated by a layers of wood and foam, then a layer of air (the greatest insulator, ironically) and then another layer of wood and foam. that's what I know about it. Hope it helps. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 12:46:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DB313BE84; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=X2u5aOed2Wvo5kAsxlLWw04av5xvOoqXNFz9UH2XXR4=; b=qQfnKOUuUVllvUjpLXt8GnVYjn0p3AxUn5luVkP70gshGLUMVrCCzfyeCY4kCFQs63 Zg/gC8jzFSRBwDyZo7Ha4tGG5HHivIeRi+Ebg3jck3j0euwCZ2x6ujlAesxTzcDLCI1a IT1RoZ9e/fVU/RiSdOC4HFOzrAsbnao1DIsTI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Z0IlX7dZfE4Xu4w+GMCKZh+jalePdsd6fb89HEe+KWtBVY4t4IOMBZIeJ8AyCFGT0l Tk9NDCJBKcj+ly5CZk2KnG69O7wnGwC9FbE4AypKC3H05qQX9deU2peSNKpiBrxvnEbQ JIZVg839BZ7ZEGtyzV4Y+U1AxdH0c61ZexSUY= Message-ID: <4759e5740808140546p7e54f1admdf6bfd786ceced3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:46:06 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing In-Reply-To: <011c01c8fe0a$4ddd3590$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_91399_2590493.1218717966174" References: <011c01c8fe0a$4ddd3590$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:46:08 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_91399_2590493.1218717966174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline lol, Rick, this is the most useful bit of info I've seen in awhile! Thanks for taking the time to share it, and at 5.35 am in the morning! either you are going to bed extremely late or you're up extremely early. that would mean you're either a musician or a monk. Which, I'm sure, for you is not an unwelcome option. Todd On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Haven't had time to read this whole thread but wanted to lay a salient > nugget of wisdom I learned years ago from one of the chief sound design > engineers > with Crown (a producer who helped to design the pressure zone microphone > for Crown). > > THE CHEAPEST WAY TO SOUND PROOF A ROOM WITHOUT FUNDS: > > If you go into your room in the middle of the day and can see a pin prick > of light when the > lights are turned off, you are losing a whopping 40% of all the sound to > the outside. > > As he explained it, a room full of air is like a vessel full of water. > One pinprick > in that vessel and the water will come out a high pressure. > > If you can make the room light tight, you immediately reduce the output of > volume (especially > bass waves which travel furthest) of the room by 40%. > > Foam does virtually nothing, according to this guy, except to reduce the > high frequency content of the > audio WITHIN the room. > > It is bass waves that are the greatest offenders because of their large > size. > > From what I have heard (and I"m not expert) a 30 cycle bass wave is > something like 16 feet long. > That's for one stinking sine wave (the fundamental) and twice that for the > first subsonic below > it. > > Foam will make a dry sounding room as Stefan pointed out and since every > room is , in essence , > a shitty reverb unless you've spent some major bucks to make it a really > good acoustical space, > it's better to have a deader environment (internal foaming = good) and then > use expensive > reverbs or, better yet (for the champagne living on a beer budget > recordist) inexpensive or free > convolution , software reverbs with really good acoustically modelled > impulse files of real > reverberant spaces (read the freeware SIR convolution reverb...........see > the archives of > my Audio Plugin Junkies Annonymous tribe at tribe.net for those URLS) > > > > The easiest way to fill all the holes in a darkened room is to go out and > buy a caulking gun full > of silicone caulk. You literally turn out the lights and walk around > caulking holes in the room > (pinprick sources of light) until the entire room is perfectly light tight. > > Voila, you have now made your room as soundproof as possible short of > spending $3,000 USD > or equivalent to build an entire box within a box (yeppers, that means > raising the floor, lowering > the roof and building four walls around you that are insulated by a layers > of wood and foam, then > a layer of air (the greatest insulator, ironically) and then another layer > of wood and foam. > > that's what I know about it. Hope it helps. > -- September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_91399_2590493.1218717966174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    lol, Rick, this is the most useful bit of info I've seen in awhile!  Thanks for taking the time to share it, and at 5.35 am in the morning!  either you are going to bed extremely late or you're up extremely early.  that would mean you're either a musician or a monk.  Which, I'm sure, for you is not an unwelcome option.  Todd

    On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
    Haven't had time to read this whole thread but wanted to lay a salient
    nugget of wisdom I learned years ago from one of the chief sound design engineers
    with Crown (a producer who helped to design the pressure zone microphone for Crown).

    THE CHEAPEST WAY TO SOUND PROOF A ROOM WITHOUT FUNDS:

    If you go into your room in the middle of the day and can see a pin prick of light when the
    lights are turned off,  you are losing a whopping 40% of all the sound to the outside.

    As he explained it,   a room full of air is like a vessel full of water. One pinprick
    in that vessel and the water will come out a high pressure.

    If you can make the room light tight, you immediately reduce the output of volume (especially
    bass waves which travel furthest) of the room by 40%.

    Foam does virtually nothing,  according to this guy, except to reduce the high frequency content of the
    audio WITHIN the room.

    It is bass waves that are the greatest offenders because of their large size.

    >From what I have heard (and I"m not expert)  a 30 cycle bass wave is something like 16 feet long.
    That's for one stinking sine wave (the fundamental)  and twice that for the first subsonic below
    it.

    Foam will make a dry sounding room as Stefan pointed out and since every room is , in essence ,
    a shitty reverb unless you've spent some major bucks to make it a really good acoustical space,
    it's better to have a deader environment (internal foaming = good) and then use expensive
    reverbs or, better yet (for the champagne living on a beer budget recordist) inexpensive or free
    convolution , software reverbs with really good acoustically modelled impulse files of real
    reverberant spaces (read  the freeware SIR convolution reverb...........see the archives of
    my Audio Plugin Junkies Annonymous tribe at tribe.net for those URLS)



    The easiest way to fill all the holes in a darkened room is to go out and buy a caulking gun full
    of silicone caulk.   You literally turn out the lights and walk around caulking holes in the room
    (pinprick sources of light) until the entire room is perfectly light tight.

    Voila,  you have now made your room as soundproof as possible short of spending $3,000 USD
    or equivalent to build an entire box within a box (yeppers,  that means raising the floor, lowering
    the roof and building four walls around you that are insulated by a layers of wood and foam,  then
    a layer of air (the greatest insulator, ironically) and then another layer of wood and foam.

    that's what I know about it.  Hope it helps.



    --
    September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th.

    http://blog.toddreynolds.com
    http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic

    ------=_Part_91399_2590493.1218717966174-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 12:47:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 793283BE90; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <011d01c8fe0b$ee1e5600$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:47:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Because I've produced the big loop fest in Santa Cruz for many years and because I've been fortunate to play several festivals in other countries over the past five years, I've had the great fortune to see some of the world's best live loopers do their thing in front of an audience. Tonight, I saw one of the most impressive shows I"ve ever seen a live looper play. I drove up to San Francisco and saw the Argentine singer/songwriter Juana Molina play to a sold out house at Yoshi's, SF, the beautiful jazz club on Fillmore Street. Man, oh man, was it an amazing concert! I felt like jumping up and down after watching it. This former famous television commediene in Argentina who gave up here life to return to music was firing on all cylinders. Using a very, very sparse setup that included a BOSS RC-50, a Lexicon reverb (couldn't tell but it looked like an older MXP-500), a Korg O1W synthesizer and a beautiful steel string acoustic guitar, she had seemless mastery of her looping. She also could go from playing almost childlike simple guitar/voice compositions with a delightful and very childlike voice to incredibly complex polyrhythmic multi-looped parts. She also occasionally used really dense timbral loops against very simple melodic parts and she also used a lot of very, very complex modern and dissonant harmony against, yet again, very simple and memorable melodies. Her rhythm playing was impeccable on both guitar, keyboards and voice. She really did beautiful things with backing her voice up with loops that were very wet, reverb wise against a very dry initial vocal style. She did tunes that were so simple as to almost be confounding and then would turn around and do a track that have up to 10 or 12 loops on top of one another in a cacaphonous but beautiful mass of sound. She even attemped one song in English............fucked up the lyrics (four different times) and had the audience shouting them to her (from the poem, The Love Song of Alfred Prusock by TS Elliot) and yet ended the song with the audience rooting for her and cheering that fact that she made it through. I have to say I was incredibly impressed............as impressed as I've ever been by anybody. She's a killer guitarist, a great rhythmatist (and this comes from a bit of a rhythm snob here), a beautiful and challenging timbralist (her synth designs were modern and edgy but always simple) and an engaging and frequently humorous performer. FIVE STARS on this puppy. Check here out Juana Molina From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 12:47:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E9563BE9E; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:47:43 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Looping Dilemna 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:47:46 +0000 (UTC) > Luis wrote: > I used to do a long loop with half speed on and turn it back to normal = with the loop running twice as fast as a backing effect which would trigg= er the drum machine at a normal speed as well.Then i would start layering= things on top. It appears that you can set the initial looplength in the LP1 in beats pe= r measure and imo this should avoid half or quarter tempo midi clocks...I= hope :) Still have to test it though --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 13:00:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C30623BE8A; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4nY1OgoRtLQTL+2WO6Nw2r5NbB8+tefDxMTfTvb2IfM=; b=BlEh603mimc1C+IKbRNv6Lo0KxMcFtk7gU5wTyPRxwwKEgKZ0frodaspdzzoMJIR3x 7fhrnlvlNxJOFs8c+b1Wp555lIM6Rt9xSAgoZ9iCK+AFx0MqpUz3J0dbWdkidivEdf3W pv6av3J+Y+0rX0ybVRKj5icfg1VwgbHrpOfME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=kMN4F+w3+RAMctYdQaxYn06Bmlft7AYpC5Yh/lpT4YHuViWvWpAeHXFuLi4fvbkFEh YnQtQxM95KOcedoPkUYTv/4/E+JaURfp+2KVB5FgARlo2sL+IIgL4ofKQnHoBh/JzmXr 3ZZKmr7HcJhvP5+yo+5SWR6IJDu1atbnulrh0= Message-ID: <4759e5740808140600s5b5f1142me506b8b9206917f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:00:27 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF In-Reply-To: <011d01c8fe0b$ee1e5600$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_91634_21705956.1218718827497" References: <011d01c8fe0b$ee1e5600$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:00:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_91634_21705956.1218718827497 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Fantastic review! I wish I'd been there to see her with you, Rick. I've been a fan for quite a few years now and with ETHEL I used her Tres Cosas for pre-music for all of our shows on our tours with Rundgren and Jackson, and Segundo, another record is an electronic music jewel. I LOVE her. And then on a Bang on a Can marathon two years back, she did a middle of the night set for us (2.30 am), and I ended up helping her pack her gear and getting her back to the hotel. I was totally honored. Twas a nightmare set for her as the soundcrew had changed over and there were some pretty heavy wireless issues. She was pissed, but eventually delivered a great set. Her rig, which was somewhat the same as what you described, was patched together with chewing gum and chicken wire, it seemed, and bugs were nearly impossible to track down... But that was the thing, the whole gestalt was full of drama, full of magic, full of intensity (she's a VERY intense person). Somehow it all came together in the end. It was a real lesson for me to watch her navigate and see just how much she knew her music and her gear, and how much of an individual artistic language she had created, different than anything I've ever ever heard. She basically changed the way I look at and hear the art of song, and I'll always be so thankful for that. Juana Molina continues to be a huge influence on me, I'm so excited you got to see her and wrote that great review for the rest of us! Todd On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Because I've produced the big loop fest in Santa Cruz for many years and > because > I've been fortunate to play several festivals in other countries over the > past five years, > I've had the great fortune to see some of the world's best live loopers do > their thing > in front of an audience. > > Tonight, I saw one of the most impressive shows I"ve ever seen a live > looper play. > I drove up to San Francisco and saw the Argentine singer/songwriter Juana > Molina > play to a sold out house at Yoshi's, SF, the beautiful jazz club on > Fillmore Street. > > Man, oh man, was it an amazing concert! I felt like jumping up and down > after watching it. > > This former famous television commediene in Argentina who gave up here life > to return to music > was firing on all cylinders. > > Using a very, very sparse setup that included a BOSS RC-50, a Lexicon > reverb (couldn't tell but it > looked like an older MXP-500), a Korg O1W synthesizer and a beautiful > steel string > acoustic guitar, she had seemless mastery of her looping. > > She also could go from playing almost childlike simple guitar/voice > compositions with a delightful and > very childlike voice to incredibly complex polyrhythmic multi-looped parts. > She also occasionally used really dense timbral loops against very simple > melodic parts and she also > used a lot of very, very complex modern and dissonant harmony against, yet > again, very simple > and memorable melodies. > > Her rhythm playing was impeccable on both guitar, keyboards and voice. > > She really did beautiful things with backing her voice up with loops that > were very wet, reverb wise against > a very dry initial vocal style. > > She did tunes that were so simple as to almost be confounding and then > would turn around and do a track that > have up to 10 or 12 loops on top of one another in a cacaphonous but > beautiful mass of sound. > > She even attemped one song in English............fucked up the lyrics (four > different times) and had the audience > shouting them to her (from the poem, The Love Song of Alfred Prusock by TS > Elliot) and yet > ended the song with the audience rooting for her and cheering that fact > that she made it through. > > I have to say I was incredibly impressed............as impressed as I've > ever been by anybody. > > She's a killer guitarist, a great rhythmatist (and this comes from a bit > of a rhythm snob here), a > beautiful and challenging timbralist (her synth designs were modern and > edgy but always simple) > and an engaging and frequently humorous performer. > > FIVE STARS on this puppy. Check here out > > Juana Molina > -- September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_91634_21705956.1218718827497 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
    Fantastic review!

    I wish I'd been t= here to see her with you, Rick.  I've been a fan for quite a few y= ears now and with ETHEL I used her Tres Cosas for pre-music for all of our = shows on our tours with Rundgren and Jackson, and Segundo, another record i= s an electronic music jewel.  I LOVE her.  And then on a Bang on = a Can marathon two years back, she did a middle of the night set for us (2.= 30 am), and I ended up helping her pack her gear and getting her back to th= e hotel.  I was totally honored.  Twas a nightmare set for her as= the soundcrew had changed over and there were some pretty heavy wireless i= ssues.  She was pissed, but eventually delivered a great set.  He= r rig, which was somewhat the same as what you described, was patched toget= her with chewing gum and chicken wire, it seemed, and bugs were nearly impo= ssible to track down... But that was the thing, the whole gestalt was full = of drama, full of magic, full of intensity (she's a VERY intense person= ).  Somehow it all came together in the end.  It was a real lesso= n for me to watch her navigate and see just how much she knew her music and= her gear, and how much of an individual artistic language she had created,= different than anything I've ever ever heard.  She basically chan= ged the way I look at and hear the art of song, and I'll always be so t= hankful for that. 

    Juana Molina continues to be a huge influence on me, I'm= so excited you got to see her and wrote that great review for the rest of = us!

    Todd
    On Thu, Aug= 14, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
    Because I've produced the big loop fest= in Santa Cruz for many years and because
    I've been fortunate to play several festivals in other countries over t= he past five years,
    I've had the great fortune to see some of the world's best live loo= pers do their thing
    in front of an audience.

    Tonight,  I saw one of the most impressive shows I"ve ever seen a= live looper play.
    I drove up to San Francisco and saw the Argentine singer/songwriter Juana M= olina
    play to a sold out house at Yoshi's, SF,  the beautiful jazz club = on Fillmore Street.

    Man, oh man,  was it an amazing concert!    I felt like jump= ing up and down after watching it.

    This former famous television commediene in Argentina who gave up here life= to return to music
    was firing on all cylinders.

    Using a very, very sparse setup that included a BOSS RC-50,  a Lexicon= reverb (couldn't tell but it
    looked like an older MXP-500),  a Korg O1W synthesizer and a beautiful= steel string
    acoustic guitar,    she had seemless mastery of her looping.

    She also could go from playing almost childlike simple guitar/voice composi= tions with a delightful and
    very childlike voice to incredibly complex polyrhythmic multi-looped parts.=
    She also occasionally used really dense timbral loops against very simple m= elodic parts and she also
    used a lot of very, very complex modern and dissonant harmony against, yet = again,  very simple
    and memorable melodies.

    Her rhythm playing was impeccable on both guitar, keyboards and voice.

    She really did beautiful things with backing her voice up with loops that w= ere very wet, reverb wise against
    a very dry initial vocal style.

    She did tunes that were so simple as to almost be confounding and then woul= d turn around and do a track that
    have up to 10 or 12 loops on top of one another in a cacaphonous but beauti= ful mass of sound.

    She even attemped one song in English............fucked up the lyrics (four= different times) and had the audience
    shouting them to her (from the poem, The Love Song of Alfred Prusock by TS = Elliot) and yet
    ended the song with the audience rooting for her and cheering that fact tha= t she made it through.

    I have to say I was incredibly impressed............as impressed as I'v= e ever been by anybody.

    She's a killer guitarist,  a great rhythmatist (and this comes fro= m a bit of a rhythm snob here),  a
    beautiful and challenging timbralist (her synth designs were modern and edg= y but always simple)
    and an engaging and frequently humorous performer.

    FIVE STARS on this puppy.  Check here out

    Juana Molina



    --
    September at Le Poisson= Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Econom= ic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th.

    http://blog.toddreynolds.com
    http://myspace.com/toddrey= noldsmusic

    ------=_Part_91634_21705956.1218718827497-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 13:05:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 482123BEA2; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=xh4y+mIb85cw2zwtps7jmhDahoNnJEg2G/3+KDAETlzMXxXFqCNyx8DTnGUe+ZRCI343xesGfngmeUB8+dlWIWe0msAfWg0OUi05+SIC8Hbrj+iitljFMYxpopwWprqJS2xCSYT8fvjgWJuyA1ODulm75LFq4nWQsgCDMjcEw3A=; X-YMail-OSG: QrilD2kVM1nd8_BsQrcqUxHZxN_bfuQ8fT_VQxHiRExZ512FoLLJ731Ma40PA5QZ1GOqlPbWN5txXp9aFFMFw8sAmoglPQPWcdyRdzFKQZiFMQdiw2u6NkMxzuI9F5RsP1HMdsZoHCNde630ymdYowYL X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:05:13 +0000 (GMT) From: rune fagereng Reply-To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Subject: article on improving the sound of your room To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <676403.44804.qm@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! Regarding improving sound in room - heres an good article;=20 http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec07/articles/acoustics.htm best regards Rune F.=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________= _________________=0AAlt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalend= er og=0Anotisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 13:37:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE8D73BE90; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080812203118.910203BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20080812203118.910203BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <093BD13B-6D09-453A-AB24-8C7B3CB68D86@kliklak.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jayrope looper's delight Subject: Re: Campaign to make more CFCs for Repeater Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:42:14 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <2ViQmB.A.kOG.RUDpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Hey David, i read the posting on the Repeater list already and realized, that Pretec will probably not manufacture 20 more pieces for ten people interested. And as i wrote some days ago: jactron.co.uk still have cards. Got a 256 mb (no 512 there) and it works flawlessly. I believe it probably needed 1.000 or 10.000 people ordering cards, before they would consider making new old ones. Are we just doing this here to shout "CFC, me, too!" or is there maybe a more organized effort for this demand going already? Otherwise "me, too!", please. 500 people ordering cards straight away would probably create enough pressure on Pretec via Tima or Jactron. Salud, j On 12.08.2008, at 22:31, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers- delight.com wrote: > Campaign to make more CFCs for Repeater from the forefront of artsy gentrification in Berlin : --- jayrope === musical === http://kliklak.net http://aircushionfinish.kliklak.net http://touchdonttouch.com http://myspace.com/prinzenallee === visual === http://jayropinsky.kliklak.net/thingship From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 14:49:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D0483BE8B; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E90302B6FB94FFA900257FF953CEC75@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <011c01c8fe0a$4ddd3590$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:47:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <0NrgTB.A.6pH.EYEpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Several years ago, when I was playing in a very loud power trio in a basement of a rented house, I had the challenge of sound proofing the rehearsal room - even more so because I had some asshole neighbors who didn't like loud rock n' roll. I had to buy a db meter and do some research on what the city ordinance requirements were for volume, etc. Inside the practice room, I measuring db levels in the range of 100-115db, and roughly 90db when I put the meter a few inches from the glass window that separated the basement practice room from the neighbors bedroom window. When I finished my project, I had the level immediately outside the window down to 40-60db, and 60db is roughly the level of an air conditioner. From the perspective of the neighbors house, it was almost inaudible with other competing natural sounds. My neighbors had an air conditioner directly across from in their window, so it was a good standard of comparison. How I did it? I learned that the university library was remodeling and discovered that they were tearing out several thousand square feed of ceiling, which was made entirely of acoustic tile. This is the standard rectangular tiles that we see in most office ceilings. This stuff normally sells for $6 a sheet in the US. I got about 200 tiles for free, but had to carry them down 3 floors on my back (4 at time), in 100F degree weather! Fortunately, the basement practice room was unfinished, and had not sheet rock over the ceiling rafters or the wall frames. This was the key to my success, because during my research I learned that the key to soundproofing was in having layers of soundblocking material, followed by a compartment of air, followed by more soundblocking material. It is the sandwich approach. The sound waves hit the first soundblocking/absorbing material, some of which make it to the compartment of air and are dispersed more. Then what is remaining hits the second layer of soundblocking/absorbing material. By this time, very little gets to the outside. I basically put acoustic tiles in between the ceiling and wall rafters, and then I put another layer of acoustic tile nailed to the outside of the rafters, like normal sheet rock. I did the same thing in the window, but added 6 inches of foam in between the acoustic tile. The results were amazing, almost uncanny. The room was almost too soundproofed and sounded very weird. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 15:56:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E025A3BE91; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, billwalker@baymoon.com Message-Id: <401CC73B-E8DB-4960-939C-CD76979D8DC7@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: labaloops@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <74716.34008.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: Line 6 JM4, M13 was new looper Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:56:55 -0700 References: <74716.34008.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Assuming it's up the standards of the DM4, it's pretty good though probably not as good as going analog. I've been trying for a while to replace my DM4 with dedicated pedals, but haven't been able to come up with a good replacement for the Rocktave Divider model that I actually use fairly heavily. I'm tempted to try the M13 plus a couple Tech21 character series pedals as a way to trim my mobile rig way down. Mark On Aug 14, 2008, at 3:22 AM, L.A. 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    --0-753340473-1218734704=:2550-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 18:11:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F0123BE9E; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:11:02 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=lnrs3ePJDiaMwcVRUoscwchS+MeA51BDEDax9y1quCrD9WsVT90ohf/Zt8UNqLTsNeGECwg4LiLHcfwspV7LYBY9zIZ30sGlB084eywf638XaAZWJVWKGJ8NthN1wdM8VEjOPaL2viE/OKG/Q8gb+3fuEgPXzQXJlyVeWnJTdaY=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:04:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: stevoj@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Norwich gig spam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <67502.74499.qm@web53009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:11:02 +0000 (UTC) I'll be there. Do you know what time you're on yet? Stephen --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Matt Stevens wrote: > From: Matt Stevens > Subject: Norwich gig spam > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 11:01 PM > Word up guys > > Live looping action at the epicentre of world looping > events Norwich > Arts Centre UK this saturday afternoon from 1 - I'm > playing plus > loads of acoustic stuff more info on my site..... > > Cheers > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 18:44:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A79B3BEA4; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=uartFxxRNgO20xmTsUVKf5t5crsBvu84L/cRSt/CWCQ=; b=LN0kjgCUTKY8OZH/dAG8kagrbMSPjseyv6kXmS5t0snMGP/cPDAVk/3nNBHkT9/CVD mBErIZNnH33e2gJpaUhGQ+Sqge3PXv8Lfz1jIj1q3SWJaTvXwCopThiw0u/s4i56bcn0 A2gZja2Z3fedwIFTEUydpSSFlxq23q0B6nlc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rR25WJBf4ySR2p8iq5qClejhXYmsPlYLTWU0khlxugOPmPsSq5ovn8XfHy6uTesvld DAKByApyy7pZ4q/Vo+M4dl4CiKpJAyo2Q4oczAomOp8rWAw4Lc0TLG8IzyyScae7jU7M gC0TV8/+9ytW7D4HPnvSSl1smGGpAGlLVhI/I= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:44:13 -0600 From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers_Delight Subject: Managing all the LD e-mail's using... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48581_2603774.1218739453252" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:44:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_48581_2603774.1218739453252 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I subscribe to Looper's Delight in non-digest form (I get individual e-mails) and I find G-mail to be a very useful e-mail client to manage all of the threads, specifically because they are grouped by "conversation", which means I have 100 unique topics/conversations laid out on one screen!! I use this account specifically for this list and all things looping. I'm know there are other e-mail clients capable of doing the same thing. Any tips for how you manage all the *great* information on this list? Just thought I'd share my little tip. Here's some screen shots if yr interested: Inbox: http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/hartattack72/G-mailLD.gif A conversation: http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/hartattack72/G-mailLDConversation.gif ^|>^m ------=_Part_48581_2603774.1218739453252 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I subscribe to Looper's Delight in non-digest form (I get individual e-mails) and I find G-mail to be a very useful e-mail client to manage all of the threads, specifically because they are grouped by "conversation", which means I have 100 unique topics/conversations laid out on one screen!!  I use this account specifically for this list and all things looping. 
     
    I'm know there are other e-mail clients capable of doing the same thing.  Any tips for how you manage all the *great* information on this list?
     
    Just thought I'd share my little tip.
     
    Here's some screen shots if yr interested:
     
     
     
    ^|>^m
    ------=_Part_48581_2603774.1218739453252-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 19:09:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A2043BEA9; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 382 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:09:05 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=/nsn38AHGS3X/hAF5tfzuRs3eGmyGaXd04L8fU2lLEk=; b=Ny5tQZ+8s/2eeKutvU8i4FgZlbITJGeI7sV6R+81ZJkymBl7IygvqTfZe89GKT91Qq eibTCBOG/O7Iv2akhYsC2s46QnNja+PSZcFDSbbxF/Sf8lmfjs0TXS7fn/0akNJolrne aMk3dFQ8lt5APK+ozsNq+Kfqr9Mm9v4xxe25g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gFFeKZjS0R32CKEc86uFILy5KqKqONNWCcnPxX/N+hdE7FqpduKw9QsUcFjhA2JI8S 9k7Ct0Sw//Si87nr1k/CmC4Pul1VrxCM7tGGkzt0yoN7Kk7sMTUosugbqqbZ2g3ci+U5 lsKYbd4R1qDVv3DKztWzuUOqHCpT362DqutpM= Message-ID: <913728d60808141202r24b849cau2623ee8e85348e2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:02:36 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Managing all the LD e-mail's using... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_77041_24306885.1218740562089" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:09:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_77041_24306885.1218740562089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I second the Gmail suggestion--It categorizes everything perfectly, and instead of getting 42 new emails per day, you may only get 3-4 groups of 8-10 messages each. It really helps keep things sane! Charlie On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > I subscribe to Looper's Delight in non-digest form (I get individual > e-mails) and I find G-mail to be a very useful e-mail client to manage all > of the threads, specifically because they are grouped by "conversation", > which means I have 100 unique topics/conversations laid out on one screen!! > I use this account specifically for this list and all things looping. > > I'm know there are other e-mail clients capable of doing the same thing. > Any tips for how you manage all the *great* information on this list? > > Just thought I'd share my little tip. > > Here's some screen shots if yr interested: > > Inbox: http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/hartattack72/G-mailLD.gif > > A conversation: > http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/hartattack72/G-mailLDConversation.gif > > ^|>^m > ------=_Part_77041_24306885.1218740562089 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I second the Gmail suggestion--It categorizes everything perfectly, and instead of getting 42 new emails per day, you may only get 3-4 groups of 8-10 messages each.

    It really helps keep things sane!

    Charlie

    On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
    I subscribe to Looper's Delight in non-digest form (I get individual e-mails) and I find G-mail to be a very useful e-mail client to manage all of the threads, specifically because they are grouped by "conversation", which means I have 100 unique topics/conversations laid out on one screen!!  I use this account specifically for this list and all things looping. 
     
    I'm know there are other e-mail clients capable of doing the same thing.  Any tips for how you manage all the *great* information on this list?
     
    Just thought I'd share my little tip.
     
    Here's some screen shots if yr interested:
     
     
     
    ^|>^m

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Please read our full disclaimer at: http://vrstockpromote.com/c/P0mGTsOfd3szH-VvIwopBQ.html?9 To remove yourself from this list, click here http://vrstockpromote.com/u/P0mGTsOfd3szH-VvIwopBQ.html or write to us at: 25399 The Old Road, Unit 15307 Stevenson Ranch, CA 91381 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 22:16:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBDB03BEA9; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <010F417BA47B4AE8BDF9BB8033292CA8@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <011d01c8fe0b$ee1e5600$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:16:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Check out her myspace page, and the video: http://www.myspace.com/juanamolina She describes her background, looping, has an interview, shows here in the studio, live, etc. She describes when she went to the US and was asking if there was a machine where she could hit a button and would record her, play it back, etc. Such an innocent discovery of looping technology. You should bring her to Y2K9, Rick. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Because I've produced the big loop fest in Santa Cruz for many years and > because > I've been fortunate to play several festivals in other countries over the > past five years, > I've had the great fortune to see some of the world's best live loopers do > their thing > in front of an audience. > > Tonight, I saw one of the most impressive shows I"ve ever seen a live > looper play. > I drove up to San Francisco and saw the Argentine singer/songwriter Juana > Molina > play to a sold out house at Yoshi's, SF, the beautiful jazz club on > Fillmore Street. > > Man, oh man, was it an amazing concert! I felt like jumping up and > down after watching it. > > This former famous television commediene in Argentina who gave up here > life to return to music > was firing on all cylinders. > > Using a very, very sparse setup that included a BOSS RC-50, a Lexicon > reverb (couldn't tell but it > looked like an older MXP-500), a Korg O1W synthesizer and a beautiful > steel string > acoustic guitar, she had seemless mastery of her looping. > > She also could go from playing almost childlike simple guitar/voice > compositions with a delightful and > very childlike voice to incredibly complex polyrhythmic multi-looped > parts. > She also occasionally used really dense timbral loops against very simple > melodic parts and she also > used a lot of very, very complex modern and dissonant harmony against, yet > again, very simple > and memorable melodies. > > Her rhythm playing was impeccable on both guitar, keyboards and voice. > > She really did beautiful things with backing her voice up with loops that > were very wet, reverb wise against > a very dry initial vocal style. > > She did tunes that were so simple as to almost be confounding and then > would turn around and do a track that > have up to 10 or 12 loops on top of one another in a cacaphonous but > beautiful mass of sound. > > She even attemped one song in English............fucked up the lyrics > (four different times) and had the audience > shouting them to her (from the poem, The Love Song of Alfred Prusock by TS > Elliot) and yet > ended the song with the audience rooting for her and cheering that fact > that she made it through. > > I have to say I was incredibly impressed............as impressed as I've > ever been by anybody. > > She's a killer guitarist, a great rhythmatist (and this comes from a bit > of a rhythm snob here), a > beautiful and challenging timbralist (her synth designs were modern and > edgy but always simple) > and an engaging and frequently humorous performer. > > FIVE STARS on this puppy. Check here out > > Juana Molina From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 22:22:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 852663BEA2; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:22:44 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_49324fab-36b5-48a6-aee8-4a8798771565_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.24] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:17:42 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <011d01c8fe0b$ee1e5600$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> References: <011d01c8fe0b$ee1e5600$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2008 22:17:42.0826 (UTC) FILETIME=[923190A0:01C8FE5B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:22:44 +0000 (UTC) --_49324fab-36b5-48a6-aee8-4a8798771565_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just watched her on Youtube while "working" ( yeah=2C right) WOW --She real= ly is amazing! And that was just on 'tv'.> From: looppool@cruzio.com> To: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Arg= entina's Juan Molina in SF> Date: Thu=2C 14 Aug 2008 05:47:32 -0700> > Beca= use I've produced the big loop fest in Santa Cruz for many years and > beca= use> I've been fortunate to play several festivals in other countries over = the > past five years=2C> I've had the great fortune to see some of the wor= ld's best live loopers do > their thing> in front of an audience.> > Tonigh= t=2C I saw one of the most impressive shows I"ve ever seen a live > looper = play.> I drove up to San Francisco and saw the Argentine singer/songwriter = Juana > Molina> play to a sold out house at Yoshi's=2C SF=2C the beautiful = jazz club on > Fillmore Street.> > Man=2C oh man=2C was it an amazing conce= rt! I felt like jumping up and down > after watching it.> > This former fam= ous television commediene in Argentina who gave up here life > to return to= music> was firing on all cylinders.> > Using a very=2C very sparse setup t= hat included a BOSS RC-50=2C a Lexicon > reverb (couldn't tell but it> look= ed like an older MXP-500)=2C a Korg O1W synthesizer and a beautiful steel >= string> acoustic guitar=2C she had seemless mastery of her looping.> > She= also could go from playing almost childlike simple guitar/voice > composit= ions with a delightful and> very childlike voice to incredibly complex poly= rhythmic multi-looped parts.> She also occasionally used really dense timbr= al loops against very simple > melodic parts and she also> used a lot of ve= ry=2C very complex modern and dissonant harmony against=2C yet > again=2C v= ery simple> and memorable melodies.> > Her rhythm playing was impeccable on= both guitar=2C keyboards and voice.> > She really did beautiful things wit= h backing her voice up with loops that > were very wet=2C reverb wise again= st> a very dry initial vocal style.> > She did tunes that were so simple as= to almost be confounding and then would > turn around and do a track that>= have up to 10 or 12 loops on top of one another in a cacaphonous but > bea= utiful mass of sound.> > She even attemped one song in English............f= ucked up the lyrics (four > different times) and had the audience> shouting= them to her (from the poem=2C The Love Song of Alfred Prusock by TS > Elli= ot) and yet> ended the song with the audience rooting for her and cheering = that fact that > she made it through.> > I have to say I was incredibly imp= ressed............as impressed as I've > ever been by anybody.> > She's a k= iller guitarist=2C a great rhythmatist (and this comes from a bit of > a rh= ythm snob here)=2C a> beautiful and challenging timbralist (her synth desig= ns were modern and edgy > but always simple)> and an engaging and frequentl= y humorous performer.> > FIVE STARS on this puppy. Check here out> > Juana = Molina >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. http://revealyourinnerathlete.windowslive.com?locale=3Den-us&ocid=3DTXT_TAG= LM_WLYIA_whichathlete_us= --_49324fab-36b5-48a6-aee8-4a8798771565_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just watched her on Youtube while "working" ( yeah=2C right) WOW --She real= ly is amazing! And that was just on 'tv'.

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    Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Wind= ows Live. Share now!= = --_49324fab-36b5-48a6-aee8-4a8798771565_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 14 23:52:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE7293BE94; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: line 6 M13 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:52:05 -0700 Message-ID: <001701c8fe68$c49397c0$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8FE2E.1834BFC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acj+aMFhjtN+zvCKRxee3bm91IJL9A== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:52:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8FE2E.1834BFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David added, On the M13, according to the 'advanced users guide' found here: http://line6.com/support/manuals/ , the looper now has expression pedal control of not only loop volume, but feedback. Wow.its about time!" I believe the one cloud in that silver lining is the feedback, I believe, only works on over dubbed material, not the initial loop. I called there support center today and the guy could not definitely say whether or not this was true, and for some reason was not able to have me talk to the one guy in tech support who knows the thing inside and out and actually did beta testing, he mumbled something about the automated switch board service not allowing them to pass calls from one to another.ah the corporate world... This is not a bad thing as it does have two expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for loop volume and the other for feedback. So though you may not be able to be able to use feedback as a way of fading out the whole loop you could use a pedal to manually fade out. I've been doing this for years with a DL-4. Luis asked" 2 questions bro: distortions how good?(fuzz,ods etc.) can its switch board control call devices simultaneously in different channels like the fcb1010 via midi?" I haven't really done much more than check out the looper function so far, I think the distortion fuzz, and overdrives are comparable to the original modeler with some updates, I haven't played one of those in a while though I do remember it doing most of the classic flavors reasonably well. Your second question I'm not sure I understand. I do know that You can individually turn on and off the different modelers while you are using the looper by hitting the corresponding buttons on the top row of switches,. Are you asking whether or not you can send midi commands to other devices? I'm not sure, how deep that midi implementation is. Like I said I've only spent a little time with it so far Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C8FE2E.1834BFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    David = added,

    On the M13, according to the ‘advanced users guide’ found here: http://line6.com/support/manu= als/ , the looper now has expression pedal control of not only loop volume, = but feedback. Wow…its about time!”

     <= /p>

     I believe the one cloud = in that silver lining is the feedback, I believe, only works on over dubbed = material, not the initial loop. I called there support center today and the guy = could not definitely say whether or not this was true, and for some reason was not = able to have me talk to the one guy in tech support who knows the thing = inside and out and actually did beta testing, he mumbled something about the = automated switch board service not allowing them to pass calls from one to = another…ah the corporate world……. This is not a bad thing as it does = have two expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for loop volume and = the other for feedback. So though you may not be able to be able to use = feedback as a way of fading out the whole loop you could use a pedal to manually = fade out. I’ve been doing this for years with a DL-4. =

     <= /p>

    Luis asked” =

    2 questions = bro:

    distortions = how good?(fuzz,ods etc.)

    can its switch = board control call devices simultaneously in different channels like the = fcb1010 via midi?”

     

    I = haven’t really done much more than check out the looper function so far, I think the = distortion fuzz, and overdrives are comparable to the original modeler with some = updates, I haven’t played one of those in a while though I do remember it = doing most of the classic flavors reasonably well.

     Your = second question I’m not sure I understand. I do know that You can = individually turn on and off the different modelers while you are using the looper by hitting the corresponding buttons on the top row of switches,. Are you = asking whether or not you can send midi commands to other devices? I’m = not sure, how deep that midi implementation is. Like I said I’ve only spent = a little time with it so far

     Bill =

     <= /o:p>

     <= /o:p>

     

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Oh, I wish, Kris, but she just sold out Yoshi's in San Francisco at $20 ahead and the next time she comes she'll sell it out at $30 ahead after the buzz from the audience (who gave her a standing ovation at the end of the show). She is a very well known international artist in the hispanic world and flies all over the world making good money so she's well out of our league. She's also in a funny position that an urban center (which draws on 3 million people) can bring her to play for 500 people but, in a town like Santa Cruz, she is not known in the slightest and we could not get enough people to come to her show to make it financially worth her while to come play the festival. I've produced new wave, experimental, avante garde, world music and looping shows for over 25 years now, and I have a very strong sense of what works and what doesn't in this odd little town: one that is very culturally strong and sophisticated but still can only draw from a pool of about 50,000 people. The fact is that, for better or worse, this festival loses money generally speaking and I"m only able to barely cover a couple of headlining artists' transportation costs with the generous donations we've received from the Looping Software people. This year, the economy is so bad that I don't have nearly the yearly donation funds to put the festival on as I did last year. LOL, is anyone rolling in enough dough in their lives that they might want to contribute a thousand bucks or two to the festival this year? We could really use it. Last year I actually paid my staff for the very first time in our history, and we're STILL asking people to both come to the festival and play on their own dime. It's testimony to how strong and involved our community is that this festival is so strong and creative every year. 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I've just seen her video interview on myspace and I feel deeply touched by her way to do music. Simply beautiful and intense. I'll buy her album for sure. Thanks for pointing her. fabio www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 11:40:19 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C0F93BE95; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <buzap@gmx.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:40:17 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" <buzap@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <010F417BA47B4AE8BDF9BB8033292CA8@americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <20080815114017.29620@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <011d01c8fe0b$ee1e5600$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <010F417BA47B4AE8BDF9BB8033292CA8@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/CIYwZNCLCTZ6Aze+jLkIoOW2Lhe0Lyyo7skUt4b EQVl0/aj8ufFQFeR5FDQHQ0vL/MIVYIl4PjA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: FVmXe6M8PTR+Hp4oyjMwVfM5c2tpZAu3 Resent-Message-ID: <XmoLcC.A.l4B.jsWpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:40:19 +0000 (UTC) YES!! That's what looping is to me!! 100% :-))) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_3ooACrLQ4 Buzap -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:16:20 -0600 > Von: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net> > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina\'s Juan Molina in SF > Check out her myspace page, and the video: > > http://www.myspace.com/juanamolina -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 11:45:16 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 996063BEA2; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <labaloops@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=pWVjAuKl6+fSAnHeaYvetVYpmwFo2dVjO1336Q5HBf3OtLQ1jle2jOZHczt4nQLXCy8GyxkEeMQ1MLep+lsT8fyQj1UuwHHz48q873U4TeAImr0S3zP3z2uXPiJF6y+a8eoJkoxggLYeF/M7jkUUaubTuMQr+1EKBmb9LUIinOA=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:45:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: LP1 question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <K5LCVJ$F726310DFDB85D3490430B36E140C8FA@scarlet.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <295540.54770.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6oZ1-C.A.hCC.MxWpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Hey LP1 users, I just got an LP1 i havent had much time to mess around with it but i did plug it in as soon as i got it to test it quickly and was having problems setting the levels,i have it plugged in the aux of my mixer returning its outs to the mixers channels.Compared to the EDP it requires me to turn the aux send almost all the way up for it to get a healthy signal and its output is noisy and weak...i have to turn the individual tracks output to about 15 so it has about the same output of the EDP,what am i doing wrong?is there another way to set the input gain on it? at the moment i am just testing it with a sure sm58. thanx www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 12:54:03 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5653D3BE94; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <labaloops@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=0JzaaaslR9kLUZ/UgnfRt5GiS6qnJ9ODDgelH7zHwI4dqXTwgk6XYfkJ9W/SFVR30IJuGBKNLjGJD8/KjUCnrDp5ZLsqgJmTUPmU6by+lFNWJqCb9z0zM28VZhd9ikYdPFveNppyYPpAqMChWIZ0AiNBAJtAYjMCL6UbvSEkWxk=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:54:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <29050.57685.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <CMJIM.A.caD.rxXpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Yes the movie is brilliant i wonder why it has remained in the underground thanx for turning me on to it as well http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1205908299880816274&hl=de cheers Luis > > > > i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a > fairly hefty pinch of > > salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link > to Zeitgeist. > > > > THANK YOU! > > > > And although one has to wade through quite a few > minutes of long and drawn > > out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, > which was a shame, > > ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard > most of it before From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 13:16:11 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 562003BEA0; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <marksmartus@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=IWpeenWY3BVpq7gtO8yMPbnveJv4ZXRJFzW+l3+SBaI=; b=SVRIUxfAKtvAaovMdQfadXqQLUafnyJAg4LPBVd0VDryQELA8zP3YRzCJMJuhPtlfl BCtI1OwL6zzLhpo/588F42ocd6RRbhtaA7ZQDJeZ+GWBnQGt9CGVIBDAE04j0ym5wPpL qP31VMpi4knsvrkoNbaapH35jRjZ+zTZQ1dJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gtTyx2muSDeyff1ONGLhaIxqEsRXnb9GI+t+hM/DB4BNiFnJvDX2Q9f1eemVJF7Q8b Ez4VDzDXW88ZleKkFSN1E3Bqd11sykubatk3FXxlN13iEU5UqLI+KPSk5iQUcmNtI1En 996szPmYBhnOWNzo1NYzpXV4YTZJAJGcWUTs0= Message-ID: <fc1f8c2b0808150616j285bfd9atad7cc3e5ae15026e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:16:10 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" <marksmartus@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... In-Reply-To: <29050.57685.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_119742_12737990.1218806170180" References: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> <29050.57685.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <AzsQN.A.u2D.bGYpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:16:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_119742_12737990.1218806170180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbAZVw3_7A -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_119742_12737990.1218806170180 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbAZVw3_7A">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbAZVw3_7A</a><br> <br>-- <br>Mark Smart<br><a href="http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart">http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart</a><br><a href="http://www.marksmart.net">http://www.marksmart.net</a><br> </div> ------=_Part_119742_12737990.1218806170180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 13:19:14 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EA563BE8E; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <pilotcp@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=ngpG7G1rl/eLF+Y/txYqoTzFl/NB665qo8XejU0JqYg=; b=wZRX1qPV+d59sa3Z79exf6Vg8E3Uv10aYj7atmFS/B5N22VDLyN5H7ed5MstKKnQIp u8OjGdG3IrtFRXdXVdW2JVm9s8LfApVlInsF4LKSx1l0MZ/U+p+I5QJy/Hr9/DHIJ2hK nTzt1znYrfXgZPTOJibXZ0gth/U8uO3RTYP1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=MAYnkFBBU8LlSwW3MLF6+RrAfw8qpTqrb7a2zONwBTBV2TeAmT4UrgVnK4IoCiYFO7 63LE5ADAKTub5LMZKfykU3da95EcQqTWlc21umpB4KaKdFlMg/pwU96krerntBCcwkFL h62eUr31axrhfZB3RJfdETDAePJjYDNesSRD4= Message-ID: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:19:13 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" <pilotcp@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: open source stompbox--looper? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_84315_11615865.1218806353482" Resent-Message-ID: <lw2NVB.A.q_D.SJYpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:19:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_84315_11615865.1218806353482 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://www.openstomp.com/index.html This looks pretty cool--anyone know anything about this? ------=_Part_84315_11615865.1218806353482 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.openstomp.com/index.html">http://www.openstomp.com/index.html</a><br><br>This looks pretty cool--anyone know anything about this?<br></div> ------=_Part_84315_11615865.1218806353482-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 13:23:40 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98DD63BE9E; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <synchro1@optonline.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:23:46 -0400 From: Joseph Tufariello <synchro1@optonline.net> Subject: Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <004901c8feda$25a2c8d0$040f2f18@Downstairs> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6MOE0g8e+3d//w1upEn9eA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <fP_IK.A.aHE.cNYpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:23:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_6MOE0g8e+3d//w1upEn9eA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have 6 loopers daisy chained in midi one just broke It go's into start up and just keeps cycling in the start up mode will not respond to any of the push keys just never stops cycling ???????? --Boundary_(ID_6MOE0g8e+3d//w1upEn9eA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3354" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I have 6 loopers daisy chained in midi one just broke It go's into start up and just keeps cycling in the start up mode will not respond to any of the push keys just never stops cycling  ????????</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> --Boundary_(ID_6MOE0g8e+3d//w1upEn9eA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 13:51:17 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF0FD3BE93; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <marksmartus@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Z6DeCKW1E9F/kDWyfolp+jQtdOSugr69dIfKSR1/Ypw=; b=ju4hVqupJiwrQ6s9+acNvcrPjE42Rn1A3pBtMVj38yLPhMZD5B6G0xVdrvoxHPdixr IbhQPLAehtgXq4CnlfvanL+j9GEgLiBmIdoOCMrr/xqEH7DXvx5dvGh2GJPZdwlRYb6k lBMPfK70fIZf8tH9BJ9QlpDkQCV/J3RNyOTe8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Aul710GU3X50kbzeGBLxLaVb0N8q0O33KJdIM+VzRuhQ1NBn7eCe3qyBLY/nimvN4r /xUAq4bAR3kg98e/yR563nyrkzzcY4kDoJf5uTJHTaNCgW48DnCBR5PiT9j0omghNTUL TOCbi/Ynq/T7VDHYIs9a42+0qFDkBU0dIZ1Qg= Message-ID: <fc1f8c2b0808150651v7d1c8a1dtf230cfae5e536596@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:51:15 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" <marksmartus@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? In-Reply-To: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_120174_15089211.1218808275273" References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <yAwRWC.A.vqE.UnYpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:51:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_120174_15089211.1218808275273 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wow, that is way cool! -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_120174_15089211.1218808275273 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr">Wow, that is way cool!<br><br>-- <br>Mark Smart<br><a href="http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart">http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart</a><br><a href="http://www.marksmart.net">http://www.marksmart.net</a><br> </div> ------=_Part_120174_15089211.1218808275273-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 14:04:02 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FB463BEA9; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <rs@moinlabs.de> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBM1zrcFHwAA== Message-ID: <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: AW: open source stompbox--looper? Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:04:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8FEF0.8D5CE260" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Acj+2YOkiqsBPKp+TSacJNRPzIVUrwABWx3w Resent-Message-ID: <q8_6R.A.W_E.RzYpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:04:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8FEF0.8D5CE260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Charlie, nice to be reading from you again, how is music going for you? (In case you missed it, I had the opportunity to do a little "world tour" this year and even was able to sell a few of the kybermusik CDs that also do feature you). But now on to your message below: Thanks for pointing that out. We had several discussions here in the past about using some modular system of any kind to get a powerful/configurable stompbox looper. It seems to me that, while this may not be the thing for some of us who need a multi-track thingie with dozillions of function, it really works as some kind of modular multi-stompbox - which also could loop, of course. There's also lots of SRAM available - which could be used for endless delay networks of a fashion that will make Robert Fripp turn grey in awe. And all that with a price tag of 'round $350, which is if I'm mistaken about the realm of a DL4 and less than a RC50. I'm really looking forward to any first reports from a looper! Rainer _____ Von: Charlie Milkey [mailto:pilotcp@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 15. August 2008 15:19 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: open source stompbox--looper? http://www.openstomp.com/index.html This looks pretty cool--anyone know anything about this? ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8FEF0.8D5CE260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.3790.3959" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hey Charlie,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>nice to be reading from you again, how is music = going for=20 you?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>(In case you missed it, I had the opportunity = to do a=20 little "world tour" this year and even was able to sell a few of the = kybermusik=20 CDs that also do feature you).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>But now on to your message = below:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Thanks for pointing that out. We had several = discussions=20 here in the past about using some modular system of any kind to get a=20 powerful/configurable stompbox looper. It seems to me that, while this = may not=20 be the thing for some of us who need a multi-track thingie with = dozillions of=20 function, it really works as some kind of modular multi-stompbox - which = also=20 could loop, of course.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>There's also lots of SRAM available - which = could be used=20 for endless delay networks of a fashion that will make Robert Fripp turn = grey in=20 awe. And all that with a price tag of 'round $350, which is if I'm = mistaken=20 about the realm of a DL4 and less than a RC50.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I'm really looking forward to any first reports = from a=20 looper!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D500045813-15082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN=20 class=3D500045813-15082008>        = <FONT=20 face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Rainer</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Dde dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft> <HR tabIndex=3D-1> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>Von:</B> Charlie Milkey = [mailto:pilotcp@gmail.com]=20 <BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Freitag, 15. August 2008 15:19<BR><B>An:</B>=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR><B>Betreff:</B> open source=20 stompbox--looper?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.openstomp.com/index.html">http://www.openstomp.com/ind= ex.html</A><BR><BR>This=20 looks pretty cool--anyone know anything about=20 this?<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C8FEF0.8D5CE260-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 14:31:26 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69CD63BEAE; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9ctjWD+2B1ICjAJudPxFaZlXvoWOEH/A1Z0IOayOiMM=; b=X9XpNtQ1MW9nJGWI7iWMK/ox6m0hrqUv3Vs2L/dHyTOGJyTOJcuCxN5oqGObi2VcKD d/kcAW6tuOGXXPcwO79X8dBJCLijSa2I3cnOzm0a1f62XI6Ubitd9wT6qF8mew3KO3LB 2b9ZXfiexBnyGtWQ7rdiUnY6HkfBR7rCw5vDw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=sO8ujhVmeM/ZoUMEG9af6Myv8kjFUk52OL/ip+g1DnyFcCckMap2+O63nEq/R2xyBh op3ilETRdU7Nz8flm1fOiupboG++G1gC/vSaVVnBrfi5rWUDKdX+leFlkt7OkNdz89PF 0g1jzsBjDks3Pk3SWqLtacQN8woEYLCnGRXMQ= Message-ID: <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:31:23 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? In-Reply-To: <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_86258_24303303.1218810683488" References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> Resent-Message-ID: <oo_2BD.A.WiF.-MZpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:31:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_86258_24303303.1218810683488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just went and looked at it ... I have to say that the concept is quite brilliant and in line with what Rainer and others have said about developing modular approaches to the tools we need to have. But to call it "open source" is a little disingenuous ... no Linux or Mac support for the development tools? Pfeh! No MIDI? No real USB? I suppose if one looks at this as another "step in the right direction" of having embedded digital systems that we could use (instead of dragging a laptop to the performances), then abso-freaking-lutely! Dennis On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill < rs@moinlabs.de> wrote: > Hey Charlie, > > nice to be reading from you again, how is music going for you? > > (In case you missed it, I had the opportunity to do a little "world tour" > this year and even was able to sell a few of the kybermusik CDs that also do > feature you). > > But now on to your message below: > > Thanks for pointing that out. We had several discussions here in the past > about using some modular system of any kind to get a powerful/configurable > stompbox looper. It seems to me that, while this may not be the thing for > some of us who need a multi-track thingie with dozillions of function, it > really works as some kind of modular multi-stompbox - which also could loop, > of course. > > There's also lots of SRAM available - which could be used for endless delay > networks of a fashion that will make Robert Fripp turn grey in awe. And all > that with a price tag of 'round $350, which is if I'm mistaken about the > realm of a DL4 and less than a RC50. > > I'm really looking forward to any first reports from a looper! > > Rainer > > ------------------------------ > *Von:* Charlie Milkey [mailto:pilotcp@gmail.com] > *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. August 2008 15:19 > *An:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Betreff:* open source stompbox--looper? > > http://www.openstomp.com/index.html > > This looks pretty cool--anyone know anything about this? > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_86258_24303303.1218810683488 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr"><p>Just went and looked at it ... </p><p>I have to say that the concept is quite brilliant and in line with what Rainer and others have said about developing modular approaches to the tools we need to have. </p> <p>But to call it "open source" is a little disingenuous ... no Linux or Mac support for the development tools? Pfeh! No MIDI? No real USB?</p><p>I suppose if one looks at this as another "step in the right direction" of having embedded digital systems that we could use (instead of dragging a laptop to the performances), then abso-freaking-lutely!</p> <p>Dennis<br></p><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rs@moinlabs.de">rs@moinlabs.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Hey Charlie,</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">nice to be reading from you again, how is music going for you?</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">(In case you missed it, I had the opportunity to do a little "world tour" this year and even was able to sell a few of the kybermusik CDs that also do feature you).</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">But now on to your message below:</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Thanks for pointing that out. We had several discussions here in the past about using some modular system of any kind to get a powerful/configurable stompbox looper. It seems to me that, while this may not be the thing for some of us who need a multi-track thingie with dozillions of function, it really works as some kind of modular multi-stompbox - which also could loop, of course.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">There's also lots of SRAM available - which could be used for endless delay networks of a fashion that will make Robert Fripp turn grey in awe. And all that with a price tag of 'round $350, which is if I'm mistaken about the realm of a DL4 and less than a RC50.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I'm really looking forward to any first reports from a looper!</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span>        <font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Rainer</font></span></div><br> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;margin-right:0px"> <div lang="de" dir="ltr" align="left"> <hr> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>Von:</b> Charlie Milkey [mailto:<a href="mailto:pilotcp@gmail.com" target="_blank">pilotcp@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 15. August 2008 15:19<br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target="_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> open source stompbox--looper?<br></font><br></div><div class="Ih2E3d"> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.openstomp.com/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.openstomp.com/index.html</a><br><br>This looks pretty cool--anyone know anything about this?<br></div></div></blockquote></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><a href="http://myspace.com/usrsbin">http://myspace.com/usrsbin</a><br><a href="http://audiozoloft.com">http://audiozoloft.com</a><br><a href="http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/">http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/</a><br> </div> ------=_Part_86258_24303303.1218810683488-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 14:51:18 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8E5E3BEC2; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <markfrancombe@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=0ok/QuC5coO6Hc0O2++QHyqR7XGwho5Dr6HFYKSAoZY=; b=OZDGMt8JRmvOfxBc4eYMqGrkXo6E5MK6nnGvzxJgyWhjmHDhTf2l06kOG7Wnh/L49/ tiT4u2PWYBA5vqwyX3ZZdPrHY6gXYEftyjnXPMM8nfu0rQbLhmyAQindCsykudjb8AcX HOvnHFQmrOYyouviR8aybq0LJy3zrfVjtz6WI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=a+nLQ2Sw0L/asgH/XMMhqNZr02vgu1qsvjVbhwW+WIKguQQaMc9sJJZVABo/BLd5rg CSgXCy/zEk2GCFxuWTGBWQHF+grOQy1mwKJ2xM6erRTyH3PO1P9RvsJIgUDKL71XXwbu cQN/U/gs1uwACzr72+oHQEptCMLmtGdP+YZWY= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808150751j4ab49290x7175ddd5dc10a16@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:51:14 +0200 From: "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? In-Reply-To: <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1b8b0e833d566536 Resent-Message-ID: <HIxQJD.A.YFG.mfZpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:51:18 +0000 (UTC) > I'm really looking forward to any first reports from a looper! > > Rainer Yeah me too... I thought this was real interesting... Im not sure if really NEED another stomp box looper, however, to be able to build something that worked with your loopers, is what I have dreamt of. I was intrigued by the Chameleon for a while, till I heard it had not enough DSP power.. this seems hefty however.. 8 processors?? But I agree with Dennis, no midi??? Whos this for really, I mean you are not gonna get this if you want a fuzzbox.. You probably want something exotic.. I just wrote this on the open stomp forums (I was first post actually HURRAH!) "Is this for making fuzz boxes (I can do that with a handful of components) or is possible to create audio buffers that grab the audio, chop it up into small random pieces and send it spirally off in various spatial directions, while maintaining correct scales? Or an audio Vortex, which sucks the sound out of things, and sends it back, not backwards, thats normal, but upside down???" M From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 15:20:57 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD6753BECC; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <arzezak@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 398 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:20:57 UTC Message-Id: <2F297D09-8300-4EE1-9B7B-F9BA77D73447@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002501c8fe7e$f2057f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF X-Priority: 3 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:14:16 -0300 References: <002501c8fe7e$f2057f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Resent-Message-ID: <prdhL.A.fuG.Z7ZpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:20:57 +0000 (UTC) A person who really helped her to gain more audience was David Byrne, =20= a few years ago he asked her to open his shows. It was then that she =20 began to get noticed. Best from Argentina, Ariel. El 14/08/2008, a las 23:30, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > Kris wrote, about Juana Molina > "You should bring her to Y2K9, Rick." > > Oh, I wish, Kris, but she just sold out Yoshi's in San Francisco =20 > at $20 ahead > and the next time she comes she'll sell it out at $30 ahead after =20 > the buzz from the > audience (who gave her a standing ovation at the end of the show). > > She is a very well known international artist in the hispanic world =20= > and flies all over the > world making good money so she's well out of our league. > > She's also in a funny position that an urban center (which draws on =20= > 3 million people) > can bring her to play for 500 people but, in a town like Santa Cruz, =20= > she is not known > in the slightest and we could not get enough people to come to her =20 > show to make it > financially worth her while to come play the festival. > > I've produced new wave, experimental, avante garde, world music and =20= > looping shows for > over 25 years now, and I have a very strong sense of what works and =20= > what doesn't in > this odd little town: one that is very culturally strong and =20 > sophisticated but still > can only draw from a pool of about 50,000 people. > > > > > The fact is that, for better or worse, this festival loses money =20 > generally speaking > and I"m only able to barely cover a couple of headlining artists' =20 > transportation costs > with the generous donations we've received from the Looping Software =20= > people. > > This year, the economy is so bad that I don't have nearly the yearly =20= > donation funds to put the festival > on as I did last year. > > LOL, is anyone rolling in enough dough in their lives that they =20 > might want to contribute > a thousand bucks or two to the festival this year? We could really =20= > use it. > > Last year I actually paid my staff for the very first time in our =20 > history, and > we're STILL asking people to both come to the festival and play on =20 > their own dime. > > It's testimony to how strong and involved our community is that this =20= > festival is > so strong and creative every year. We run it on fumes, trust me!! > > yours, Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 16:26:41 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BFF03BE98; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <c.voit@vtx.ch> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3604 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:26:40 UTC X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=uK6IsadCD3hjSSzmCUYA:9 a=9w0gULIxuyzewRbkYVk7-gvBVv8A:4 a=aZUur3PYbGYA:10 Message-ID: <48A5A023.1040800@vtx.ch> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:26:27 +0200 From: Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looper References: <004901c8feda$25a2c8d0$040f2f18@Downstairs> In-Reply-To: <004901c8feda$25a2c8d0$040f2f18@Downstairs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1cLQcB.A.PR.A5apIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:26:40 +0000 (UTC) excellent Joseph Tufariello a écrit : > I have 6 loopers daisy chained in midi one just broke It go's into start up and just keeps cycling in the start up mode will not respond to any of the push keys just never stops cycling ???????? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 16:39:49 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5AFB3BE98; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <SRS0=wHiEgm=Y2=creepingfog.com=sean.loop@yourhostingaccount.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2194 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:39:49 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.2 X-EN-IMPSID: 2g3E1a00A02goRm0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:52:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria <sean.loop@creepingfog.com> Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? In-Reply-To: <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.co m> References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria <sean.loop@creepingfog.com> X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <UTVrIB.A.Az.VFbpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Open source doesn't mean cross-platform... At 2008.08.15 07:31 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >But to call it "open source" is a little disingenuous ... no Linux >or Mac support for the development tools? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 17:22:12 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A1473BE99; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=mbjJSO2s4SDvQjTEKSgRRIIEB2MoMq+9dvUjL78e8zE=; b=JnBgshYlv3ckT7PWhwFjdeqNgj8qd67qt/3xbipWm0Cdz0qEgCbWIRLhvu7065V56u fzDYXhTDkcS3inSwQtUoEqQqmnp3naWVZe5De/U92bSLCyihAbGZTDIhnd+3J8p5ufgD qYuG2F/nK+FOgljXaFe4BO/Fs+61KNReEzNoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=thyIxjp8zDrMAGzV/1afbe5t+knx04XQSgoK1jxbkVOf7bN00xAZmyq0kvYfwV520A oiE7FyEqdCtiALq+A1ENNnLiKhMJlpIO8Ch9gkIFTKbetSC9JxH8MIDpUOCEsADPAbRo AAn6Pf+z3CgqG948Wa3uFRgqUrnTLydaO1hI4= Message-ID: <dec8f8e60808151022l9ed3763xd521c3b0a385aa59@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:22:09 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? In-Reply-To: <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_87360_9294620.1218820929482" References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.com> <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <WejO8.A.F0B.DtbpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:22:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_87360_9294620.1218820929482 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sean, You're absolutely correct: "open source" doesn't mean "cross-platform" ... but the most successful open-source projects understood that GETTING that source in front of as many sets of eyeballs as possible also meant making it operable under as many different toolkits on as many different platforms as possible. Restricting it to a SINGLE proprietary OS by the toolkit needed to work on it is not exactly embracing the spirit of open source, even if there are more people running Windows. But this is getting way off topic ... Dennis On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Sean Echevarria <sean.loop@creepingfog.com > wrote: > Open source doesn't mean cross-platform... > > > > At 2008.08.15 07:31 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > > But to call it "open source" is a little disingenuous ... no Linux or Mac >> support for the development tools? >> > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_87360_9294620.1218820929482 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr">Sean,<br><br>You're absolutely correct: "open source" doesn't mean "cross-platform" ... but the most successful open-source projects understood that GETTING that source in front of as many sets of eyeballs as possible also meant making it operable under as many different toolkits on as many different platforms as possible.<br> <br>Restricting it to a SINGLE proprietary OS by the toolkit needed to work on it is not exactly embracing the spirit of open source, even if there are more people running Windows.<br><br>But this is getting way off topic ... <br> <br>Dennis<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Sean Echevarria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sean.loop@creepingfog.com">sean.loop@creepingfog.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Open source doesn't mean cross-platform...<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br> <br> <br> At 2008.08.15 07:31 AM, Dennis Moser wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> But to call it "open source" is a little disingenuous ... no Linux or Mac support for the development tools?<br> </blockquote> <br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><a href="http://myspace.com/usrsbin">http://myspace.com/usrsbin</a><br><a href="http://audiozoloft.com">http://audiozoloft.com</a><br><a href="http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/">http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/</a><br> </div> ------=_Part_87360_9294620.1218820929482-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 18:01:20 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF09C3BE98; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <SRS0=wHiEgm=Y2=creepingfog.com=sean.loop@yourhostingaccount.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.2 X-EN-IMPSID: 2i1K1a00102goRm0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:01:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria <sean.loop@creepingfog.com> Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? In-Reply-To: <dec8f8e60808151022l9ed3763xd521c3b0a385aa59@mail.gmail.com > References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.com> <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> <dec8f8e60808151022l9ed3763xd521c3b0a385aa59@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria <sean.loop@creepingfog.com> X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20080815180120.733073BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <Hslpn.A.byC.wRcpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:01:20 +0000 (UTC) The spirit of open source? Here's a guy that has released a piece of work and you're complaining that he didn't do all of the work himself. What a load of shit. At 2008.08.15 10:22 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >Sean, > >You're absolutely correct: "open source" doesn't mean >"cross-platform" ... but the most successful open-source projects >understood that GETTING that source in front of as many sets of >eyeballs as possible also meant making it operable under as many >different toolkits on as many different platforms as possible. > >Restricting it to a SINGLE proprietary OS by the toolkit needed to >work on it is not exactly embracing the spirit of open source, even >if there are more people running Windows. > >But this is getting way off topic ... > >Dennis > >On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Sean Echevarria ><<mailto:sean.loop@creepingfog.com>sean.loop@creepingfog.com> wrote: >Open source doesn't mean cross-platform... > > > >At 2008.08.15 07:31 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > >But to call it "open source" is a little disingenuous ... no Linux >or Mac support for the development tools? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 18:05:41 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 106F63BEA2; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <pete@lividinstruments.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.com> References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <25299393-9A3B-430B-B8E3-59A75C9449C1@lividinstruments.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Nyboer <pete@lividinstruments.com> Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:05:41 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <yJxueC.A.D9C.0VcpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:05:40 +0000 (UTC) > But to call it "open source" is a little disingenuous ... no Linux > or Mac support for the development tools? Pfeh! No MIDI? No real USB? > For the record, "open source" simply means that the code is available to users upon request. This box totally satisfies this requirement: the hardware is documented and alterable, the firmware is user changeable, and, on top of that, the existing firmware is programmable. There is no requirement that "open source" work on a multitude of platforms. The beauty of open source is that you can create a platform, rather than a finished product, and let the community decide what features are worth adding. From the FAQ, he says "This is a one-man project which resulted from creating something I wanted for myself and making it available to the public." This is one reason the double-ohs are cooler than the 90's - things like this simply could NOT happen 10 years ago!!! Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 18:14:52 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD6C03BE95; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <bigtonyk@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+4dpTd1Ria1z2/bv9pD9ptpPFcfhB8Lu1gZOD95BMQY=; b=NMlxVuTcWMFIcQS9gaRpkj+hXz4nyIdQEbouQuANDzJDsxCcfsIYmENaOf3MKbgWjr s3TzFlS3RSfmxMimFbMr6mNt4+y4xw1uLfi/mv5dAfYkE3tKrtvOB4RWj7/Wsi+DkDfa smgcituZ4ipItJMgd+fgpVEuIJDQ4+wfIl2P8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=N3AX9b0sGGMuTybgJ6BHa4u3UAmjaa1hufsDIjk91oeaLy00dMmSGdaWg4u4uE9eQp bAv3HhtaeoMQYg6i+ceEqXKxpIHVYw+FrDQYjdUSY4z41y41vo2efmjfg8EzoQxj8RDe slk7zMRz00W6P9jpjlU1bKoXeOVsIXcqAdoA0= Message-ID: <d1dcce560808151114n76cdfb64ibb9b45e4e8cc36fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:14:50 -0400 From: "Tony K" <bigtonyk@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? In-Reply-To: <dec8f8e60808151022l9ed3763xd521c3b0a385aa59@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_105578_11365382.1218824090872" References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.com> <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> <dec8f8e60808151022l9ed3763xd521c3b0a385aa59@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <xPW8r.A.jOD.cecpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:14:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_105578_11365382.1218824090872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I sort of doubt that it is 'restricted' to Windows. More that as a single person developer, that's all he's done. I can't imagine he'd be upset if someone ported it to Mac or Linux. I wrote a patch editor for my Digitech RP2000 and made it open source, but there's no Mac or Linux version. Only because I have zero clue (and no resources) how to go about writing for those platforms. Seems like a cool idea, though from my perspective, I'd rather get a laptop and an FCB1010 and AudioMulch. A bit more cash... anywho... nifty idea. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>wrote: > Sean, > > You're absolutely correct: "open source" doesn't mean "cross-platform" ... > but the most successful open-source projects understood that GETTING that > source in front of as many sets of eyeballs as possible also meant making it > operable under as many different toolkits on as many different platforms as > possible. > > Restricting it to a SINGLE proprietary OS by the toolkit needed to work on > it is not exactly embracing the spirit of open source, even if there are > more people running Windows. > > But this is getting way off topic ... > > Dennis > > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Sean Echevarria < > sean.loop@creepingfog.com> wrote: > >> Open source doesn't mean cross-platform... >> >> >> >> At 2008.08.15 07:31 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >> >> But to call it "open source" is a little disingenuous ... no Linux or Mac >>> support for the development tools? >>> >> >> > > > -- > http://myspace.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_105578_11365382.1218824090872 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr"><div>I sort of doubt that it is 'restricted' to Windows.  More that as a single person developer, that's all he's done.  I can't imagine he'd be upset if someone ported it to Mac or Linux.  I wrote a patch editor for my Digitech RP2000 and made it open source, but there's no Mac or Linux version.  Only because I have zero clue (and no resources) how to go about writing for those platforms.</div> <div> </div> <div>Seems like a cool idea, though from my perspective, I'd rather get a laptop and an FCB1010 and AudioMulch.  A bit more cash... anywho... nifty idea.<br><br></div> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Dennis Moser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sinsofmachaut@gmail.com">sinsofmachaut@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div dir="ltr">Sean,<br><br>You're absolutely correct: "open source" doesn't mean "cross-platform" ... but the most successful open-source projects understood that GETTING that source in front of as many sets of eyeballs as possible also meant making it operable under as many different toolkits on as many different platforms as possible.<br> <br>Restricting it to a SINGLE proprietary OS by the toolkit needed to work on it is not exactly embracing the spirit of open source, even if there are more people running Windows.<br><br>But this is getting way off topic ... <br> <font color="#888888"><br>Dennis</font> <div> <div></div> <div class="Wj3C7c"><br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Sean Echevarria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sean.loop@creepingfog.com" target="_blank">sean.loop@creepingfog.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Open source doesn't mean cross-platform... <div> <div></div> <div><br><br><br>At 2008.08.15 07:31 AM, Dennis Moser wrote:<br><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">But to call it "open source" is a little disingenuous ... no Linux or Mac support for the development tools?<br> </blockquote><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div> <div class="Ih2E3d">-- <br><a href="http://myspace.com/usrsbin" target="_blank">http://myspace.com/usrsbin</a><br><a href="http://audiozoloft.com/" target="_blank">http://audiozoloft.com</a><br><a href="http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/" target="_blank">http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>-==-=-=- <br>Tony<br></div> ------=_Part_105578_11365382.1218824090872-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 18:18:47 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CD453BE95; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <bobld@amstadt.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00c401c8ff03$59ccfc10$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" <bobld@amstadt.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.com> <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> <dec8f8e60808151022l9ed3763xd521c3b0a385aa59@mail.gmail.com> <d1dcce560808151114n76cdfb64ibb9b45e4e8cc36fe@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:18:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <s38kpC.A.VYD.HicpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:18:47 +0000 (UTC) >I sort of doubt that it is 'restricted' to Windows. More that as a single > person developer, that's all he's done. I can't imagine he'd be upset if > someone ported it to Mac or Linux. That would be my guess as well. Open source developers don't get upset if you contribute to their work. In fact, it is quite a thrill to watch an open source project that you create blossom. -Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 21:48:47 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50EAD3BE93; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <billwalker@baymoon.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: <billwalker@baymoon.com> From: "William Walker" <billwalker@baymoon.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Juana Molina Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:48:41 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c8ff20$b1bb2f10$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8FEE6.055C5710" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acj/IK54W0Gg2RhiQAm0yd/nHtqcfA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <KoODj.A.6hD._mfpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:48:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8FEE6.055C5710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After checking out a number of Juana's you tube performances, I was struck by how pure her musical vision was. Very emotionally direct, and simple in the best sense of the word.. She struck me as person very in touch with her muse with a fearless sense of exploration. How many artists besides Iggy Pop do you know that can start barking and yipping like a dog as she does at the end of El Perro, from a Santiago, Chile concert that is on youtube , and actually not make it seem contrived, or posturing, and completely work in the context of the song. She also has an ace in the hole with her comedy chops. Though I am not fluent in Spanish, I t was obvious from her between song banter in one performance that she was cracking everyone in the room up, and had been since she hit the stage. She has a wonderful sense of sound design, a lovely voice with great character, good songs, and she's a skilled looper. I'm smitten. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8FEE6.055C5710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>   After checking out a number of =  Juana’s you tube performances,   I was struck by how pure her musical = vision was. Very emotionally direct, and simple in the best sense of the word.. =  She struck me as person very in touch with her muse with a fearless sense of = exploration. How many artists besides Iggy  Pop do you know that can start = barking and yipping like a dog as she does at the end of El Perro, from a Santiago, = Chile concert that is on youtube , and actually not make it seem contrived, or posturing, and completely work in the context of the song.  She = also has an ace in the hole with her comedy chops. Though I am not fluent in = Spanish, I t was obvious from her between song banter in one performance that she = was cracking everyone in the room up, and had been since she hit the stage. =  She has a wonderful sense of sound design, a lovely voice with great = character, good songs, and she’s a skilled  looper. I’m = smitten.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8FEE6.055C5710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 15 22:07:11 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43CF03BE95; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <khartung@cableone.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <C336BB85898E401F87DD11B44C5DB918@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000001c8ff20$b1bb2f10$6501a8c0@williamsteed> Subject: Re: Juana Molina Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:07:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0066_01C8FEF0.F6FD7130" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <UOFdXB.A.D_D.P4fpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:07:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C8FEF0.F6FD7130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was particularly impressed with how great her voice sounded with a = totally dry mix. Many singers disguise their vocal imperfections with = reverb, chorus, doubling, etc. On many of her songs, the mix on her = voice is dry as a funeral drum, yet she is right on the money and in = your face. No need to "Doctor up" her voice, by any means. I am not = usually a fan or particular impressed by most popular or diatonic music = of any sort, but I enjoyed her music. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 After checking out a number of Juana's you tube performances, I = was struck by how pure her musical vision was. Very emotionally direct, = and simple in the best sense of the word.. She struck me as person very = in touch with her muse with a fearless sense of exploration. How many = artists besides Iggy Pop do you know that can start barking and yipping = like a dog as she does at the end of El Perro, from a Santiago, Chile = concert that is on youtube , and actually not make it seem contrived, or = posturing, and completely work in the context of the song. She also has = an ace in the hole with her comedy chops. Though I am not fluent in = Spanish, I t was obvious from her between song banter in one performance = that she was cracking everyone in the room up, and had been since she = hit the stage. She has a wonderful sense of sound design, a lovely = voice with great character, good songs, and she's a skilled looper. I'm = smitten. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C8FEF0.F6FD7130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:o =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.5626" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE>@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in = 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-compose } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=3DEN-US vLink=3Dpurple link=3Dblue bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was particularly impressed with how = great her=20 voice sounded with a totally dry mix. Many singers disguise their vocal=20 imperfections with reverb, chorus, doubling, etc.  On many of her = songs,=20 the mix on her voice is dry as a funeral drum, yet she is right on the = money and=20 in your face. No need to "Doctor up" her voice, by any means. I am not = usually a=20 fan or particular impressed by most popular or diatonic music of any = sort, but I=20 enjoyed her music.</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV><BR>Kris</DIV> <DIV></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV class=3DSection1> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">   After = checking out a=20 number of  Juana=92s you tube performances,   I was = struck by how=20 pure her musical vision was. Very emotionally direct, and simple in = the best=20 sense of the word..  She struck me as person very in touch with = her muse=20 with a fearless sense of exploration. How many artists besides Iggy =  Pop=20 do you know that can start barking and yipping like a dog as she does = at the=20 end of El Perro, from a Santiago, Chile concert that is on youtube , = and=20 actually not make it seem contrived, or posturing, and completely work = in the=20 context of the song.  She also has an ace in the hole with her = comedy=20 chops. Though I am not fluent in Spanish, I t was obvious from her = between=20 song banter in one performance that she was cracking everyone in the = room up,=20 and had been since she hit the stage.  She has a wonderful sense = of sound=20 design, a lovely voice with great character, good songs, and she=92s a = skilled=20  looper. I=92m smitten.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Bill<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>= ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C8FEF0.F6FD7130-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 05:39:34 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB1393BE91; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <dave@daveeichenberger.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "dave eichenberger" <dave@daveeichenberger.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <001701c8fe68$c49397c0$6501a8c0@williamsteed> In-Reply-To: <001701c8fe68$c49397c0$6501a8c0@williamsteed> Subject: RE: line 6 M13 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:39:12 -0400 Message-ID: <006401c8ff62$6d693b30$483bb190$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0065_01C8FF40.E6579B30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acj+aMFhjtN+zvCKRxee3bm91IJL9AA+YJoQ Content-Language: en-us X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19pZc/yZG6rivuDEjqdOMuLXouqKH9Ix92UnBB j8KORiIaGqUtyIeH1igjuMA1wxPKRz1CcQgzIHSN1V6X2m14Fx /xiiUy8CdMLXuLaMIM2aVnKF40qwLQS17bN3M+K48Q= Resent-Message-ID: <KGDd0B.A.NzG.WgmpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:39:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C8FF40.E6579B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Official news from Line6: feedback level works on the whole loop, not just the overdubs. dave eichenberger: www.daveeichenberger.com From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: line 6 M13 I believe the one cloud in that silver lining is the feedback, I believe, only works on over dubbed material, not the initial loop. I called there support center today and the guy could not definitely say whether or not this was true, and for some reason was not able to have me talk to the one guy in tech support who knows the thing inside and out and actually did beta testing, he mumbled something about the automated switch board service not allowing them to pass calls from one to another.ah the corporate world... This is not a bad thing as it does have two expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for loop volume and the other for feedback. So though you may not be able to be able to use feedback as a way of fading out the whole loop you could use a pedal to manually fade out. I've been doing this for years with a DL-4. ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C8FF40.E6579B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Futurist; panose-1:2 11 114 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:windowtext;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Official news from Line6: feedback level works on the = whole loop, not just the overdubs. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Futurist","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>dave eichenberger:  <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Futurist","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"www.daveeichenberger.com"><span = style=3D'color:blue'>www.daveeichenberger.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span= ></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt = 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>= </b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> William = Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com] <br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:52 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br> <b>Subject:</b> line 6 M13<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'> </span><span = style=3D'font-size: 11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> I believe the one cloud in that silver lining is the feedback, I believe, only = works on over dubbed material, not the initial loop. I called there support = center today and the guy could not definitely say whether or not this was true, and = for some reason was not able to have me talk to the one guy in tech support who = knows the thing inside and out and actually did beta testing, he mumbled = something about the automated switch board service not allowing them to pass calls = from one to another…ah the corporate world……. This is not a = bad thing as it does have two expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for loop = volume and the other for feedback. So though you may not be able to be able to use feedback as a way of fading out the whole loop you could use a pedal to manually fade out. I’ve been doing this for years with a DL-4. = <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </= o:p></span></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C8FF40.E6579B30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 05:50:59 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86F9F3BE94; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <micdave@hiwaay.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" <micdave@hiwaay.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: RE: line 6 M13 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:50:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C8FF3A.22BB1090" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <006401c8ff62$6d693b30$483bb190$@com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acj+aMFhjtN+zvCKRxee3bm91IJL9AA+YJoQAABp49A= Message-Id: <20080816055059.0C0CE3BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <EFVMXB.A.s_G.DrmpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:50:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C8FF3A.22BB1090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll find out-I'm ordering an M13 on Monday. dave _____ Official news from Line6: feedback level works on the whole loop, not just the overdubs. dave eichenberger: I believe the one cloud in that silver lining is the feedback, I believe, only works on over dubbed material, not the initial loop. I called there support center today and the guy could not definitely say whether or not this was true, and for some reason was not able to have me talk to the one guy in tech support who knows the thing inside and out and actually did beta testing, he mumbled something about the automated switch board service not allowing them to pass calls from one to another.ah the corporate world... This is not a bad thing as it does have two expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for loop volume and the other for feedback. So though you may not be able to be able to use feedback as a way of fading out the whole loop you could use a pedal to manually fade out. I've been doing this for years with a DL-4. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C8FF3A.22BB1090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:ns0=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!--a:link {mso-style-priority:99;} span.MSOHYPERLINK {mso-style-priority:99;} a:visited {mso-style-priority:99;} span.MSOHYPERLINKFOLLOWED {mso-style-priority:99;} /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri;} @font-face {font-family:Futurist;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; color:black;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I’ll find = out—I’m ordering an M13 on Monday.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>dave </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p= > </div> <div> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font = size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> </span></font></div> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" = face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Official = news from Line6: feedback level works on the whole loop, not just the overdubs. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" = face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> <= /o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" = face=3DFuturist><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Futurist;color:#1F497D'>dave = eichenberger:  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font = size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d"><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font><= /p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> I believe the one cloud = in that silver lining is the feedback, I believe, only works on over dubbed = material, not the initial loop. I called there support center today and the guy = could not definitely say whether or not this was true, and for some reason was not = able to have me talk to the one guy in tech support who knows the thing = inside and out and actually did beta testing, he mumbled something about the = automated switch board service not allowing them to pass calls from one to another…ah the corporate world……. This is not a bad = thing as it does have two expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for = loop volume and the other for feedback. So though you may not be able to be = able to use feedback as a way of fading out the whole loop you could use a pedal = to manually fade out. I’ve been doing this for years with a DL-4. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font = size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DCalibri><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C8FF3A.22BB1090-- From stats@propertyfax.us.com Sat Aug 16 06:26:55 2008 Return-Path: <stats@propertyfax.us.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 38666 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:26:55 UTC Received: from cummin24.securesites.net (cummin24.securesites.net [161.58.198.202]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244973BE86 for <looparc@loopers-delight.com>; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c-67-191-69-79.hsd1.fl.comcast.net [67.191.69.79]) (authenticated bits=0) by cummin24.securesites.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m7FJX5Y8029866 for <looparc@loopers-delight.com>; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:42:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200808151942.m7FJX5Y8029866@cummin24.securesites.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============0941068641==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Where were these guys when I was looking to buy a house? 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This indicates that the guy was worrying about his neighbours, or about sound coming in from tghe outsid. If you want a dry studio, you want to lose as much as possible, opening a door will eat some low end, but unfortunately it will invite also outside sound... > Foam does virtually nothing, according to this guy, except to reduce > the high frequency content of the audio WITHIN the room. exactly, and that's what you want inside of the room... Especially low end at high levels will always reach the neighbours. The best to protect the neighbours is also to decouple all sound sources from the walls (the speakers and the piano). The main sound path is solid-borne sound, if you connect the sound source directly with the wall, it will be audible all over the house... > It is bass waves that are the greatest offenders because of their > large size. close the door...;-) (small holes will only pass higher frequencies by the way) > From what I have heard (and I"m not expert) a 30 cycle bass wave is > something like 16 feet long. That's why a small hole wouldn't hurt, but a light wall will just shake with the bass and pass it as if there would be no wall. The only way to block low frequencies is weight. Its not the thickness of the wall, its the weight which matters. On the other hand, think about your studio speakers, will they be able to produce 30 cycles at high volume? > Voila, you have now made your room as soundproof as possible short > of spending $3,000 USD or equivalent to build an entire box within a > box (yeppers, that means raising the floor, lowering Unfortunately that is the only way, a box within a box, and $3,000 won't be enough. But usually we don't need disco level in our studio, maybe worrying about the neighbours is better done with knowing them and asking for hours you can make noise without disturbing them too much... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 06:54:30 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 241493BE8F; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:54:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48A679A4.6000005@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:54:28 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing References: <011c01c8fe0a$4ddd3590$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <4E90302B6FB94FFA900257FF953CEC75@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <4E90302B6FB94FFA900257FF953CEC75@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <uMAhMC.A.Fh.lmnpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:54:30 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung schrieb: > The results were amazing, almost uncanny. The room was almost too > soundproofed and sounded very weird. Which proofes: Soundproofing for the outside, and soundproofing for the inside are completely different beast, not related to each other at all... ;-) -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 07:08:47 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BC853BE8D; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <micdave@hiwaay.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" <micdave@hiwaay.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: RE: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:08:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <48A678EE.6040500@addcom.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acj/bIQ5WgZO1Z0jS6engG2BNgjcdgAAYu8A Message-Id: <20080816070846.C42E83BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9uYUf.A.y4.-znpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:08:47 +0000 (UTC) In several different dwellings, I've conducted amplified band rehearsals and recorded one album, mixed another. In each location, I went to all the neighbors well in advance of the first event with my business card and told them to call if the noise bothered them, and that we would stop immediately. No one ever called. I kept rehearsals to 90 minutes, usually in the late afternoon before many are home from work. Mixing required some volume at times (and I confess to liking to test a mix by walking around the outside of the house with all the doors and windows shut), but no one ever complained. Offering consideration and cooperation up front may not work with everyone in every situation, but it is a good investment. dave But usually we don't need disco level in our studio, maybe worrying about the neighbours is better done with knowing them and asking for hours you can make noise without disturbing them too much... Stefan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 07:20:47 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 186523BE8D; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48A67FCC.9080301@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:20:44 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AMAZING LIVE LOOPING SHOW: Argentina's Juan Molina in SF References: <002501c8fe7e$f2057f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <002501c8fe7e$f2057f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <i9MTc.A.6MB.O_npIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > She is a very well known international artist in the hispanic world > and flies all over the world making good money so she's well out of > our league. I don't think so, but she doesn't know our community yet. Zoë for example is also a well known international artist in the same league (Juana has some similarities with Imogen Heap). But she wouldn't hesitate to show by if its possible within her schedule (as she did in the past...) I guess especially if you make good money with your music, you might consider some "off the stream" events to attend and even participate just for the fun of it... I don't know if she is into internet communities at all, as we are though, and that would be a necessity, and it needs time to build a relationship... (Maybe Y2K10... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 07:33:51 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88B7A3BE93; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48A682DC.4040100@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:33:48 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: open source stompbox--looper? References: <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> In-Reply-To: <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3dUmWB.A.6bC.fLopIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill schrieb: > There's also lots of SRAM available - which could be used for endless > delay networks of a fashion that will make Robert Fripp turn grey in > awe. This was the first thing in the specs I was looking for. It says 1.5 Mbyte, which is pretty close to nothing. Where did you find out about the expandability of memory? Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 07:50:42 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83F8A3BE91; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48A6869B.1070401@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:49:47 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.com> <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <ezCsCB.A.94C.SbopIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Sean Echevarria schrieb: > Open source doesn't mean cross-platform... Normaly it does, because you can take the code and port it yourself. Open source usually means you can download the source. I haven't seen any source or schematic of the box or the windows program on the web site though (or anything to download...) It might be an open platform, and he wants users to contribute open source patches. The box itself doesn't seem open yet... But it's in the very beginning of the project, setting up a web site isn't easy either... Pd is open source, Max is not. But you get open source patches for Max (like my St.ools...) OpenStomp is a trademark, its a normal commercial project. I wish it will fly off, but I am not sure how much you could actually do with a couple of 80MHz cores and 1.5 Mbyte of RAM. Sounds a bit lame for me... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 08:39:39 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6501A3BE8F; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 59128355/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.245.112 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.245.112 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4BAH0vpkhPTvVw/2dsb2JhbAAIsnOBWINO X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,220,1217804400"; d="scan'208";a="59128355" Message-ID: <48A69256.5040508@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:39:50 +0100 From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: line 6 M13 References: <001701c8fe68$c49397c0$6501a8c0@williamsteed> <006401c8ff62$6d693b30$483bb190$@com> In-Reply-To: <006401c8ff62$6d693b30$483bb190$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <TiEinD.A.IIE.LJppIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:39:39 +0000 (UTC) It looks like they changed it, presumably due to user feedback. Well done guys :-) andy butler dave eichenberger wrote: > Official news from Line6: feedback level works on the whole loop, not > just the overdubs. > > *From:* William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:52 PM > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* line 6 M13 > I believe the one cloud in that silver lining is the feedback, I > believe, only works on over dubbed material, not the initial loop. I > called there support center today and the guy could not definitely say > whether or not this was true, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 08:55:47 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2077A3BE8D; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 62213920/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.245.112 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.245.112 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4BADwzpkhPTvVw/2dsb2JhbAAIsnKBWINO X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,220,1217804400"; d="scan'208,223";a="62213920" Message-ID: <48A6961E.5010301@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:55:58 +0100 From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <k0007ck7FBnnlb.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> <dec8f8e60808150731x75d6fdd3ye806992c1c2e5209@mail.gmail.com> <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> <48A6869B.1070401@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: <48A6869B.1070401@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <AQg6uD.A.cpE.SYppIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:55:47 +0000 (UTC) >From the FAQ it seemed that they would allow developers access to all the software, as they say there's no reason why someone couldn't attempt to use the usb connection for realtime audio. That makes sense, they make profit on the hardware, and don't have any hassle with having to protect their software. My calculations are guessing at about 30s of mono-looptime. andy butler Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Sean Echevarria schrieb: >> Open source doesn't mean cross-platform... > > Normaly it does, because you can take the code and port it yourself. > Open source usually means you can download the source. I haven't seen > any source or schematic of the box or the windows program on the web > site though (or anything to download...) > > It might be an open platform, and he wants users to contribute open > source patches. The box itself doesn't seem open yet... > But it's in the very beginning of the project, setting up a web site > isn't easy either... > > Pd is open source, Max is not. But you get open source patches for Max > (like my St.ools...) > > OpenStomp is a trademark, its a normal commercial project. I wish it > will fly off, but I am not sure how much you could actually do with a > couple of 80MHz cores and 1.5 Mbyte of RAM. Sounds a bit lame for me... > > Stefan > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 10:44:56 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BD3A3BE91; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <buzap@gmx.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:44:54 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" <buzap@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20080816104454.81960@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Boss GT10 / SL-20 Slicer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/qvRMOPUDqMY5/+Dv7F9EGyzWHgkW3Agd4hoEI0z 6KgvhZriU2y+Uw0sCKv8/kH/N8hvOUZd8oIQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: wsbDCWpUfW47YpNBjGRo2VludmllckU/ Resent-Message-ID: <wHscgC.A.DHH.o-qpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi Folks yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss GT10B. I was really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of settings and features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect pedal, you have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can assign even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX but for each parameter. Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!). I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really opens up a new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 Slicer by Boss. Really thrilled me! Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's good: http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=959 best regards Buzap -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 11:01:03 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F6923BE8F; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <looppool@cruzio.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009801c8ff8f$63580c20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:01:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <91uMQD.A.rdH.uNrpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Stefan wrote about my statement that Juana Molina was out of our league for the Y2K series of Looping Festivals. "I don't think so, but she doesn't know our community yet. Zoë for example is also a well known international artist in the same league (Juana has some similarities with Imogen Heap). But she wouldn't hesitate to show by if its possible within her schedule (as she did in the past...)" This is because I gave Zoe her very first live looping gig and took a chance on her obvious and incredible burgeoning talent, Stefan. At this point in her career, if she didn't know who we were, she would probably not be able to take a chance on playing the festival for little or no money just because it wouldn't be economically feasible. She will (and by the way, hasn't been able to in several years) because of her emotional attachement and history with this community, alone. Juana, as wonderful as she is, doesn't have that connection to our community. Also, as excited as I am about Zoe's well deserved success, she is not on the level of Juana Molina in the world of commercial success. Juana was the recipient of the best CD of the entire year in world music in 2003. She's not a big star in the US but she is a big star in the Hispanic world. Trust me, you do not sell 500 tickets in San Francisco at $20 a head unless things are really doing well for you, internationally in your career. I've booked major acts all of my life in many different genres and I'm not green in this world. Trust me when I tell you that she's out of our league for this festival with the extremely limited funds I have to put it on. However, if you can , yourself, convince her to come with only her transportation covered , which is the best I could possibly do, then, by all means, prove me wrong and help me to book her for Y2K8 or Y2K9. I'd love to have her, but I have to be realistic with such limited resources. Yours, with great respect, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 12:07:55 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7F353BE95; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <raul.bonell@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=84qT5xnmlZDlbzEx+3G3O6nijQFj/xSX73WPIZvbe44=; b=wbdrdIN8Lt03JDXEgrmbcedwwQjldstlEJdBPtBu02jnj4DIgHyjDTsc4L+RhMJZiC Yo7zyfzg3bF4xtDuybsMF3GZhSUaYQJdoGNNxSQsqEDAKPZkxTrlSawDMHZhJfuAjmU2 vvh9iZ5M757pTOXoJmYkkQU3gg+zU2cpMIg70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=sRVG8B0iTb2iczmVGGIO7lnyBzAZvFiOVBSSxL8WG7/oNzk+6GndYmv1Nzeame91Du Lbq8OC867mDD3po9MvaskXm2wybaeqyRTKi8k6pVxOZDGDtW2Q6jH9mqIhQwtYS72Vaz 3Iw4UX5Q/FuZNEOO+gIqXeJHxnUjZhrNdLBQY= Message-ID: <afb941d0808160507o49bd304aub9740c49d1b43ddf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:07:54 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" <raul.bonell@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boss GT10 / SL-20 Slicer In-Reply-To: <20080816104454.81960@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866" References: <20080816104454.81960@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: <D1wn9D.A.Th.bMspIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:07:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline (not read the manual, but...) in there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose is a lite version of this. but it seems that you can't program patterns in this unit. same for the gt-3's. neither do grooves based on more complex periodicities. there are some free/donationware plugins out there that can beat the boss slicers easily. anyhow, is a nice extra for the gt pedalboard family which i'm a big fan since they came out. raul. 2008/8/16 Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> > Hi Folks > > yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss GT10B. I was > really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of settings and > features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect pedal, you > have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can assign > even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX but for each > parameter. > Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight > forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!). > > I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really opens up a > new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 Slicer by > Boss. Really thrilled me! > Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's good: > http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=959 > > best regards > Buzap > -- > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr"><div>(not read the manual, but...)</div><div><br></div>in there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose is a lite version of this. but it seems that you can't program patterns in this unit. same for the gt-3's. neither do grooves based on more complex periodicities.<div> <br></div><div>there are some free/donationware plugins out there that can beat the boss slicers easily.</div><div><br></div><div>anyhow, is a nice extra for the gt pedalboard family which i'm a big fan since they came out.</div> <div><br></div><div>raul.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/8/16 Buzap Buzap <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:buzap@gmx.net">buzap@gmx.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Hi Folks<br> <br> yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss GT10B. I was really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of settings and features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect pedal, you have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can assign even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX but for each parameter.<br> Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!).<br> <br> I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really opens up a new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 Slicer by Boss. Really thrilled me!<br> Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's good:<br> <a href="http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=959" target="_blank">http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=959</a><br> <br> best regards<br> Buzap<br> <font color="#888888">--<br> Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten<br> Browser-Versionen downloaden: <a href="http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser" target="_blank">http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser</a><br> <br> </font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>The Playing Orchestra: <a href="http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo">http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href="http://www.ct-collective.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br> TPO at myspace: <a href="http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra">http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra</a><br>TPO at Jamendo: <a href="http://www.jamendo.com">http://www.jamendo.com</a><br> </div></div> ------=_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 12:16:50 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC3293BE93; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218889009; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=TClQ3vZQffidZjVwoxRs3fceGbg=; b=SPBeUOYktg2g2pqNiC848LDAVuYChayvnVi9VCx9bx7yeisaL8VLne3BNSdBlVZs 0ejB6p8ybdA8Uhtj1dL7B23QmODM41Jc3zxv5s5C8DSb+fQ2e7rSu4B2replXhc9; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=etlgfPuTi7J9JQ-bzSYA:9 a=gQ6MnBMzXy-AKBeU3hcA:7 a=X2FZ-5a5my9L1gA5UAl2dsv013kA:4 a=kLQ54MB0OY8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c8ff99$fbf5ac80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <20080816070846.C42E83BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:16:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <e7UgQC.A.Dt.yUspIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:16:50 +0000 (UTC) I agree. I always introduce myself to my neighbors and give them my number. I try to be considerate of when and how long I make noise. I also have never had a call. I am also friendly with my landlord who is amazed at my little home studio and looping in general. Courtesy is better and cheaper than soundproofing. Jeff ® ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Gallaher" <micdave@hiwaay.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:08 AM Subject: RE: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing > In several different dwellings, I've conducted amplified band rehearsals > and > recorded one album, mixed another. In each location, I went to all the > neighbors well in advance of the first event with my business card and > told > them to call if the noise bothered them, and that we would stop > immediately. > > No one ever called. I kept rehearsals to 90 minutes, usually in the late > afternoon before many are home from work. Mixing required some volume at > times (and I confess to liking to test a mix by walking around the outside > of the house with all the doors and windows shut), but no one ever > complained. Offering consideration and cooperation up front may not work > with everyone in every situation, but it is a good investment. > > dave > > But usually we don't need disco level in our studio, maybe > worrying about the neighbours is better done with knowing them and > asking for hours you can make noise without disturbing them too much... > > Stefan > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1614 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 > 5:29 PM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 12:29:26 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C4363BE8D; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1218889765; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=QmR2le2FqNSbDj+ieqr2NItwAIQ=; b=p7RSXmN7yLSiPGYsphH1nfIbG2YGhjU9kzfs9W6VrvCl0ZvM/mdxUkd69zLIbGmK DlGVrkOPAW7eILkQdU2jpV6D9GUdzG9cnGDowwxcxi6L9m6L4bV/9G74wamLVzI3; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=OtPBPn9Fa85aCBEZfaQA:9 a=GEAWQr0AHrv0TTYmuvwA:7 a=zV4L_RP02RS2_uLK5mT6v5CcDaUA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=Gbxi-bAytWH2wjLOr04A:9 a=kDO52tBsRwWA6F0D4UcA:7 a=HuX2ZvPXViv4IiuSZ0S0vRwpMMwA:4 a=kLQ54MB0OY8A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <003701c8ff9b$bf1160a0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <20080816055059.0C0CE3BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: line 6 M13 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:29:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8FF7A.35054550" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <4lkgVB.A.G9.lgspIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:29:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8FF7A.35054550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking forward to a review from a player. The only concern is the = lack of amp modeling as I am looking at it as an all in one = consolidation. Jeff =AE ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave Gallaher=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 1:50 AM Subject: RE: line 6 M13 I'll find out-I'm ordering an M13 on Monday. =20 dave=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- =20 Official news from Line6: feedback level works on the whole loop, not = just the overdubs.=20 =20 dave eichenberger: =20 =20 =20 I believe the one cloud in that silver lining is the feedback, I = believe, only works on over dubbed material, not the initial loop. I = called there support center today and the guy could not definitely say = whether or not this was true, and for some reason was not able to have = me talk to the one guy in tech support who knows the thing inside and = out and actually did beta testing, he mumbled something about the = automated switch board service not allowing them to pass calls from one = to another.ah the corporate world... This is not a bad thing as it does = have two expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for loop = volume and the other for feedback. So though you may not be able to be = able to use feedback as a way of fading out the whole loop you could use = a pedal to manually fade out. I've been doing this for years with a = DL-4.=20 =20 =20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1614 - Release Date: = 8/15/2008 5:29 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8FF7A.35054550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:ns0 =3D=20 "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name=3DGENERATOR><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } </STYLE> <![endif]--> <STYLE> <!--a:link {mso-style-priority:99;} span.MSOHYPERLINK {mso-style-priority:99;} a:visited {mso-style-priority:99;} span.MSOHYPERLINKFOLLOWED {mso-style-priority:99;} /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri;} @font-face {font-family:Futurist;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; color:black;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </STYLE> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD> <BODY lang=3DEN-US vLink=3Dpurple link=3Dblue bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am looking forward to a review from a = player. The=20 only concern is the lack of amp modeling as I am looking at it as an all = in one=20 consolidation.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff =AE</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dmicdave@hiwaay.net href=3D"mailto:micdave@hiwaay.net">Dave = Gallaher</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 16, 2008 = 1:50=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: line 6 M13</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=3DSection1> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">I=92ll find out=97I=92m = ordering an M13 on=20 Monday.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: = black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">dave=20 </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20 style=3D"COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: = black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: = black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: = black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: = black"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" = align=3Dcenter><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3D#1f497d = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: = Calibri">Official news=20 from Line6: feedback level works on the whole loop, not just the = overdubs.=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3D#1f497d = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: = Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DFuturist color=3D#1f497d = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Futurist">dave=20 eichenberger:  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#1f497d = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20 color=3D#1f497d size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: = #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#1f497d = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: = #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#1f497d = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> I believe the one = cloud in that=20 silver lining is the feedback, I believe, only works on over dubbed = material,=20 not the initial loop. I called there support center today and the guy = could=20 not definitely say whether or not this was true, and for some reason = was not=20 able to have me talk to the one guy in tech support who knows the = thing inside=20 and out and actually did beta testing, he mumbled something about the=20 automated switch board service not allowing them to pass calls from = one to=20 another=85ah the corporate world=85=85. This is not a bad thing as it = does have two=20 expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for loop volume and = the=20 other for feedback. So though you may not be able to be able to use = feedback=20 as a way of fading out the whole loop you could use a pedal to = manually fade=20 out. I=92ve been doing this for years with a DL-4. = <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#1f497d = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT = face=3DCalibri=20 color=3D#1f497d size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: = Calibri"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><PRE>No virus found in = this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1614 - Release Date: = 8/15/2008 5:29 PM </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8FF7A.35054550-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 12:38:43 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 167843BE95; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=y5IG7u8S/NLohQUBYOqAgXlOZTYcNEsXBWY0GnPOMIY=; b=TnjHX29/gA6BC33w07IzP5gA8fZi0vfLnnRN8dynEAcZDK5tYo3owqFNJhKWugyqTJ ECJ4HnJ3Y8B/z5cNW4Y5JxCFGa83T3wNCX6w5yVfHobA2bNj2Ho32pKiOnC7PqQZyb00 gx9wh5knY4lk/dJQC9VVaWKLbGcJRizLthvGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=oMYSMzhPClBIdbie1Fv2DzQDfP3eYpZRlBOxJ/ILvSz5gJR4SSNUFI3k+kG6wmBIgY PAIKdepSY7QA/N60IZuogHJwZHU4J5o0aYqS70HeI+bIXRvE1u3nKMnGOLp0Hx8MH5g1 +5veFtH6bP6dKUtYIehx6vp8ePh5a9tegA9WE= Message-ID: <dec8f8e60808160538r3836e9bfrb7705cfb5e9684df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:38:40 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: line 6 M13 In-Reply-To: <003701c8ff9b$bf1160a0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2813_15594633.1218890320481" References: <20080816055059.0C0CE3BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> <003701c8ff9b$bf1160a0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: <JQbn-C.A.sJB.SpspIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:38:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2813_15594633.1218890320481 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dave, Do post a review as soon as you can ... 28 second loop ... hmmm ... and STEREO. Dennis On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote: > I am looking forward to a review from a player. The only concern is the > lack of amp modeling as I am looking at it as an all in one consolidation= . > > Jeff (R) > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Dave Gallaher <micdave@hiwaay.net> > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2008 1:50 AM > *Subject:* RE: line 6 M13 > > I'll find out=97I'm ordering an M13 on Monday. > > > > dave > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Official news from Line6: feedback level works on the whole loop, not jus= t > the overdubs. > > > > dave eichenberger: > > > > > > I believe the one cloud in that silver lining is the feedback, I believe= , > only works on over dubbed material, not the initial loop. I called there > support center today and the guy could not definitely say whether or not > this was true, and for some reason was not able to have me talk to the on= e > guy in tech support who knows the thing inside and out and actually did b= eta > testing, he mumbled something about the automated switch board service no= t > allowing them to pass calls from one to another=85ah the corporate world= =85=85. > This is not a bad thing as it does have two expression pedal ports with t= he > ability to set one for loop volume and the other for feedback. So though = you > may not be able to be able to use feedback as a way of fading out the who= le > loop you could use a pedal to manually fade out. I've been doing this for > years with a DL-4. > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1614 - Release Date: 8/15/2008= 5:29 PM > > --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_2813_15594633.1218890320481 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline <div dir=3D"ltr">Dave,<br><br>Do post a review as soon as you can ... 28 se= cond loop ... hmmm ... and STEREO.<br><br>Dennis<br><br><div class=3D"gmail= _quote">On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a= href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a>></span>= wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, = 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" lang=3D"EN-US"> <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I am looking forward to a review from = a player. The=20 only concern is the lack of amp modeling as I am looking at it as an all in= one=20 consolidation.</font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font> </div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Jeff ®</font></div> <blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); paddi= ng-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><di= v class=3D"Ih2E3d"> <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma= l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj= ust: none;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -m= oz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -mo= z-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-family: arial; font-style: n= ormal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-hei= ght: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"> <b>From:</b>=20 <a title=3D"micdave@hiwaay.net" href=3D"mailto:micdave@hiwaay.net" target= =3D"_blank">Dave Gallaher</a>=20 </div> <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma= l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj= ust: none;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" hre= f=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>=20 </div> </div><div><div></div><div class=3D"Wj3C7c"><div style=3D"font-family: ar= ial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-si= ze: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturd= ay, August 16, 2008 1:50=20 AM</div> <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma= l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj= ust: none;"><b>Subject:</b> RE: line 6 M13</div> <div><br></div> <div> <p><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style= =3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;">I'll find out=97I'm ordering an M13 on= =20 Monday.</span></font></p> <p><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style= =3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> </span></font></p> <div> <p><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-si= ze: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Arial;">dave=20 </span></font><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color: black;"></span>= </font></p> <p><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style= =3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> </span></font></p> <p><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style= =3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> </span></font></p> <p><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style= =3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> </span></font></p> <p><font color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style= =3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> </span></font></p></div> <div> <div style=3D"text-align: center;" align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Times N= ew Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> <hr align=3D"center" size=3D"2" width=3D"100%"> </span></font></div></div> <p><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size: 12= pt;"> </span></font></p> <p><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"fon= t-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;">Official news= =20 from Line6: feedback level works on the whole loop, not just the overdubs= .=20 </span></font></p> <p><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"fon= t-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;"> </span>= </font></p> <div> <p><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Futurist" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"fo= nt-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Futurist;">dave=20 eichenberger:  </span></font></p></div> <p><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"><span styl= e=3D"font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><font c= olor=3D"#1f497d" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, = 73, 125);"></span></font></p> <p><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"2"><span styl= e=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font></p> <p><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"2"><span styl= e=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> I believe the one clo= ud in that=20 silver lining is the feedback, I believe, only works on over dubbed mater= ial,=20 not the initial loop. I called there support center today and the guy cou= ld=20 not definitely say whether or not this was true, and for some reason was = not=20 able to have me talk to the one guy in tech support who knows the thing i= nside=20 and out and actually did beta testing, he mumbled something about the=20 automated switch board service not allowing them to pass calls from one t= o=20 another=85ah the corporate world=85=85. This is not a bad thing as it doe= s have two=20 expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for loop volume and th= e=20 other for feedback. So though you may not be able to be able to use feedb= ack=20 as a way of fading out the whole loop you could use a pedal to manually f= ade=20 out. I've been doing this for years with a DL-4. </span></font></p> <p><font color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"2"><span styl= e=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><font c= olor=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt= ; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;"></span></font></p> <p><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-f= amily: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></div><pre>No virus foun= d in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - <a href=3D"http://www.avg.com" target=3D"_blank">http://ww= w.avg.com</a>=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1614 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 5= :29 PM </pre></blockquote></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://myspa= ce.com/usrsbin">http://myspace.com/usrsbin</a><br><a href=3D"http://audiozo= loft.com">http://audiozoloft.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://usrslashsbin.angr= ek.com/">http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/</a><br> </div> ------=_Part_2813_15594633.1218890320481-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 14:22:12 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3671D3BE94; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <andre@andredonawa.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:22:11 UTC Message-ID: <60715.72.22.1218896131.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <afb941d0808160507o49bd304aub9740c49d1b43ddf@mail.gmail.com> References: <afb941d0808160507o49bd304aub9740c49d1b43ddf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:15:31 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Boss GT10 / SL-20 Slicer From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= <andre@andredonawa.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <Xp9jq.A.wwC.UKupIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/82933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi Raul, Interested in those plugins you mentioned. Have any links, you share with us? Thanks, Andre andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Sat, August 16, 2008 8:07 am, Raul Bonell wrote: > ------=_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > (not read the manual, but...) > > in there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose is a lite version of > this. > but it seems that you can't program patterns in this unit. same for the > gt-3's. neither do grooves based on more complex periodicities. > there are some free/donationware plugins out there that can beat the boss > slicers easily. > > anyhow, is a nice extra for the gt pedalboard family which i'm a big fan > since they came out. > > raul. > > 2008/8/16 Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> > >> Hi Folks >> >> yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss GT10B. I >> was >> really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of settings and >> features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect pedal, >> you >> have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can >> assign >> even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX but for >> each >> parameter. >> Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight >> forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!). >> >> I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really opens up >> a >> new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 Slicer >> by >> Boss. Really thrilled me! >> Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's good: >> http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=959 >> >> best regards >> Buzap >> -- >> Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten >> Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser >> >> > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > > ------=_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > <div dir="ltr"><div>(not read the manual, but...)</div><div><br></div>in > there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose is a lite version of this. > but it seems that you can't program patterns in this unit. same for > the gt-3's. neither do grooves based on more complex > periodicities.<div> > <br></div><div>there are some free/donationware plugins out there that can > beat the boss slicers easily.</div><div><br></div><div>anyhow, is a nice > extra for the gt pedalboard family which i'm a big fan since they came > out.</div> > <div><br></div><div>raul.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/8/16 Buzap > Buzap <span dir="ltr"><<a > href="mailto:buzap@gmx.net">buzap@gmx.net</a>></span><br><blockquote > class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc > solid;padding-left:1ex;"> > Hi Folks<br> > <br> > yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss GT10B. I > was really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of settings > and features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect pedal, > you have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can > assign even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX but > for each parameter.<br> > > Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight > forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!).<br> > <br> > I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really opens up a > new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 Slicer by > Boss. Really thrilled me!<br> > Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's good:<br> > <a href="http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=959" > target="_blank">http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=959</a><br> > <br> > best regards<br> > Buzap<br> > <font color="#888888">--<br> > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten<br> > Browser-Versionen downloaden: <a href="http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser" > target="_blank">http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser</a><br> > <br> > </font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>The Playing > Orchestra: <a > href="http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo">http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo</a><br>Chain > Tape Collective: <a > href="http://www.ct-collective.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br> > TPO at myspace: <a > href="http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra">http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra</a><br>TPO > at Jamendo: <a > href="http://www.jamendo.com">http://www.jamendo.com</a><br> > </div></div> > > ------=_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866-- > From wico@info.com.ph Sat Aug 16 14:33:22 2008 Return-Path: <wico@info.com.ph> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1947 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:33:22 UTC Received: from sophos1.vitro.epldt.net (sophos1.vitro.epldt.net [125.5.96.47]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBA53BE86; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sophos1.vitro.epldt.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 73BFEB1010F; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:00:17 +0800 (PHT) Received: from exsmtp04.epldt.local (unknown [203.131.74.7]) by sophos1.vitro.epldt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26981B101E8; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:55:06 +0800 (PHT) Received: from EXVS01.epldt.local ([192.168.200.254]) by exsmtp04.epldt.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:47:20 +0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8FFA6.8B96A51F" Subject: URGENT ATTENTION NEEDED REPLY TO THIS EMAIL:martinsblair01@live.com Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:46:55 +0800 Message-ID: <3EA5A4284BFA1045B67B99E250D38F7E0100406E@EXVS01.epldt.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: URGENT ATTENTION NEEDED REPLY TO THIS EMAIL:martinsblair01@live.com Thread-Index: Acj/pomtW+JFh0HlSv+TswsoHhPUAQ== From: <wico@info.com.ph> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2008 13:47:20.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[9ABF9540:01C8FFA6] To: undisclosed-recipients:; X-PMX-Version: 5.4.4.348488, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.0.325393, Antispam-Data: 2008.8.16.134614 X-PMX-Spam: Gauge=XXXXXXXXXIIIIIIIII, Probability=100%, Report='The following antispam rules were triggered by this message: Rule Score Description FRAUD_419_X3_PHONE 5.500 Contains content common within fraud, and contained a uk redirecting phone number FRAUD_419_X3 1.667 Matches 3+ phrases commonly used in 419/fraud spam FRAUD_419_X4 1.667 Matches 4+ phrases commonly used in 419/fraud spam FRAUD_419_X5 1.667 Matches 5+ phrases commonly used in 419/fraud spam FRAUD_419_X6 1.667 Matches 6+ phrases commonly used in 419/fraud spam FRAUD_419_X7 1.667 Matches 7+ phrases commonly used in 419/fraud spam FRAUD_419_X8 1.667 Matches 8+ phrases commonly used in 419/fraud spam LINES_OF_YELLING_3 0.671 3 WHOLE LINES OF YELLING DETECTED HTML_NO_HTTP 0.100 Html part does not contain 'http://' SUPERLONG_LINE 0.050 Contains a line >=199 characters long BODY_SIZE_4000_4999 0.000 Message body size is 4000 to 4999 bytes BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0.000 Message body size is less than 5000 bytes. 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    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8FFA6.8B96A51F-- From bdekster@mta.ca Sat Aug 16 14:53:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 38561 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:53:44 UTC Received: from webmail.mta.ca (webmail.mta.ca [138.73.1.24]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C44F3BE87; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apache by webmail.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KUD7G-0001Y8-9o; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:10:14 -0300 Received: from 75-3.vgccl.net (75-3.vgccl.net [41.220.75.3]) by webmail.mta.ca (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:10:14 -0300 Message-ID: <1218859814.48a6532608e38@webmail.mta.ca> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:10:14 -0300 From: "Barrister P.A Williams" Reply-to: union.attorneys.chambers@live.com Subject: Listed As Beneficiary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.8 X-Originating-IP: 41.220.75.3 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sequel to your non response of our earlier letter to you on behalf of the Trustees and Executors to the Will of our late client. You were listed as a beneficiary to the sum of £5,550,000.00GBP.We request that you kindly forward the below: 1, Telephone numbers 2, Fax numbers 3, Post Mailing Address To Enable us File out all documents sent to you. Barrister P. Abel Williams. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 15:22:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEE4D3BE94; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 59248291/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.245.112 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.245.112 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtoAADuNpkhPTvVw/2dsb2JhbAAIskCBWINO X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,221,1217804400"; d="scan'208";a="59248291" Message-ID: <48A6F0C8.6030900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:22:48 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Norwich gig spam References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:22:38 +0000 (UTC) sorry, can't make it :-( but if you're into coming down to Norwich again....... andy butler Matt Stevens wrote: > Word up guys > > Live looping action at the epicentre of world looping events Norwich > Arts Centre UK this saturday afternoon from 1 - I'm playing plus loads > of acoustic stuff more info on my site..... > > Cheers > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 16:19:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 092DD3BE91; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBOD/ggskS Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:19:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Acj/u9pXPzyKYKUaR1GkIX1jZx5WHQ== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Dear Rick, in the recent discussion, you said (about Juan Molina): "Trust me, you do not sell 500 tickets in San Francisco at $20 a head unless things are really doing well for you, internationally in your career." And go on to explain why it wouldn't be a possibility to get her to play at your festival. Now, here's what I'm thinking about: I know that your festivals have always been very communist/union-style as far as independently of their fame and quality, people all get the same amount of time for their performance slot and receive the same amount of money. Now, traditionally, communism tends to make people with high qualification/fame/market value escape from the system if they have the possibility to do so and have a very negative effect on the quality of the result - the fact that the quality of the performances at your festivals have sometimes been outstanding is a miracle all of its own and can only be explained by the "community spirit" cited so often. But, as it is most probably next to impossible to have a performer without any links to our community and with a considerable market value of his own to attend the festival based on the usual financial/organisational scheme (as I read from your explanation), what about the following approach: Start the festival with a true "headlining gig" ("headliner" here being someone with a position in the market, not someone coming from Europe). Have Juan and another cat of that caliber (or perhaps two cats of smaller caliber) play that event, and charge something like $30 at the door in the aforementioned 500-seat venue. Use the market value of those performers to attract sponsors for the entire festival. And, of course, invite those cats to stay and enjoy the rest of the festival (lodging covered). Give people who show a ticket for the headlining gig a big rebate for admission for the remaining festival. Make it clear to everyone applying that there are different concepts regarding salary for the headlining gig and the main festival. If it works out on a great way, you get more people to attend the main festival (because they get a rebate, and because they get informed about our scene, whereas before they'd only been enjoying the work of Juan or Imogen without any interest for or consciousness of looping). If it doesn't - well, then you still have a main festival (that doesn't work extremely well financially) and a headlining gig which can even throw off a little profit, and you might even get additional sponsors for the entire festival. Just my .02$ from someone who is (to use your metaphor) fairly green in this scene, but not in the realm of product management... Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 16:21:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2EA63BE8F; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=BT/Oh3hh1HROVeu9YuJuU3iCcHd1VUB6+1WUYjPJyJE=; b=fgYa1T1WTuNSVNtcYPQARGisbyNUyWE6w2x+tCmwtzbf4IRkIkQ0Fa94g0WaFxxoLn W3TT+J8bA/I9J7OViQa9BD8kyOLTy3UYK2GculINsj7an6B3xbsCV6Mv2+6GaYyXcI+f mwCYA7pDMxYMG3cTh5Har7LySUf9KlOUpL3ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=QsEwW6L9yVPO/54dBHnnPYktWEJTBgY5McQn2LGX+jJX0yilYK32SDw9WLgcL3slbi i1t4o2B93a3V6WV2+QyLalSPQ3I2KotRvluc/Tcn+nCbTUn6ObJ+k99+bO8BjzAGhh3g JGYqFQqioA1VNb4FOkhx59gojOVSC7/urDV0w= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00808160921n456d0fc9nc95c50345bc1e882@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:21:33 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2102_14147172.1218903693174" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:21:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2102_14147172.1218903693174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline JuanA, she's a woman. On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill < rs@moinlabs.de> wrote: > Dear Rick, > > in the recent discussion, you said (about Juan Molina): > > "Trust me, you do not sell 500 tickets in San Francisco at $20 a head > unless things are really doing well for you, internationally in your > career." > > And go on to explain why it wouldn't be a possibility to get her to play at > your festival. > > Now, here's what I'm thinking about: > I know that your festivals have always been very communist/union-style as > far as independently of their fame and quality, people all get the same > amount of time for their performance slot and receive the same amount of > money. Now, traditionally, communism tends to make people with high > qualification/fame/market value escape from the system if they have the > possibility to do so and have a very negative effect on the quality of the > result - the fact that the quality of the performances at your festivals > have sometimes been outstanding is a miracle all of its own and can only be > explained by the "community spirit" cited so often. > > But, as it is most probably next to impossible to have a performer without > any links to our community and with a considerable market value of his own > to attend the festival based on the usual financial/organisational scheme > (as I read from your explanation), what about the following approach: > > Start the festival with a true "headlining gig" ("headliner" here being > someone with a position in the market, not someone coming from Europe). > Have > Juan and another cat of that caliber (or perhaps two cats of smaller > caliber) play that event, and charge something like $30 at the door in the > aforementioned 500-seat venue. Use the market value of those performers to > attract sponsors for the entire festival. And, of course, invite those cats > to stay and enjoy the rest of the festival (lodging covered). > > Give people who show a ticket for the headlining gig a big rebate for > admission for the remaining festival. > > Make it clear to everyone applying that there are different concepts > regarding salary for the headlining gig and the main festival. > > If it works out on a great way, you get more people to attend the main > festival (because they get a rebate, and because they get informed about > our > scene, whereas before they'd only been enjoying the work of Juan or Imogen > without any interest for or consciousness of looping). > > If it doesn't - well, then you still have a main festival (that doesn't > work > extremely well financially) and a headlining gig which can even throw off a > little profit, and you might even get additional sponsors for the entire > festival. > > Just my .02$ from someone who is (to use your metaphor) fairly green in > this > scene, but not in the realm of product management... > > Rainer > > ------=_Part_2102_14147172.1218903693174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    JuanA, she's a woman.

    On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de> wrote:
    Dear Rick,

    in the recent discussion, you said (about Juan Molina):

    "Trust me,  you do not sell 500 tickets in San Francisco at $20 a head
    unless things are really doing well for you, internationally in your
    career."

    And go on to explain why it wouldn't be a possibility to get her to play at
    your festival.

    Now, here's what I'm thinking about:
    I know that your festivals have always been very communist/union-style as
    far as independently of their fame and quality, people all get the same
    amount of time for their performance slot and receive the same amount of
    money. Now, traditionally, communism tends to make people with high
    qualification/fame/market value escape from the system if they have the
    possibility to do so and have a very negative effect on the quality of the
    result - the fact that the quality of the performances at your festivals
    have sometimes been outstanding is a miracle all of its own and can only be
    explained by the "community spirit" cited so often.

    But, as it is most probably next to impossible to have a performer without
    any links to our community and with a considerable market value of his own
    to attend the festival based on the usual financial/organisational scheme
    (as I read from your explanation), what about the following approach:

    Start the festival with a true "headlining gig" ("headliner" here being
    someone with a position in the market, not someone coming from Europe). Have
    Juan and another cat of that caliber (or perhaps two cats of smaller
    caliber) play that event, and charge something like $30 at the door in the
    aforementioned 500-seat venue. Use the market value of those performers to
    attract sponsors for the entire festival. And, of course, invite those cats
    to stay and enjoy the rest of the festival (lodging covered).

    Give people who show a ticket for the headlining gig a big rebate for
    admission for the remaining festival.

    Make it clear to everyone applying that there are different concepts
    regarding salary for the headlining gig and the main festival.

    If it works out on a great way, you get more people to attend the main
    festival (because they get a rebate, and because they get informed about our
    scene, whereas before they'd only been enjoying the work of Juan or Imogen
    without any interest for or consciousness of looping).

    If it doesn't - well, then you still have a main festival (that doesn't work
    extremely well financially) and a headlining gig which can even throw off a
    little profit, and you might even get additional sponsors for the entire
    festival.

    Just my .02$ from someone who is (to use your metaphor) fairly green in this
    scene, but not in the realm of product management...

           Rainer


    ------=_Part_2102_14147172.1218903693174-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 16:21:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22D9D3BE91; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBOD/ggskS Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: AW: open source stompbox--looper? Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:21:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <48A682DC.4040100@addcom.de> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Acj/cm4vYcPAGn5kQtCObTafnSIHeAASXu5Q Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Damn, sorry, Freudian slip - I read "1.5Gbyte"... > (about the stompbox' memory, more specifically, the specified SRAM) > This was the first thing in the specs I was looking for. It > says 1.5 Mbyte, which is pretty close to nothing. Where did > you find out about the expandability of memory? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 16:24:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 553CC3BE93; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:24:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBOD/ggskS Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:24:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8FFCD.4DC3DF40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00808160921n456d0fc9nc95c50345bc1e882@mail.gmail.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Acj/vCdm3PV2JHJ7R06swRjUDiJkwQAABd7g Resent-Message-ID: <-glyGC.A.Pt.p8vpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:24:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8FFCD.4DC3DF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, didn't intend any sexual harassment here...I found "Juan" in the headlines, and I have come not to judge given names in foreign languages with regard to gender by their spelling (e.g., "Andrea" in German is female, in Italian it's male - "Juan" in Spanish is (as far as I know) male, but in Chinese (Cantonese), it's female). Rainer _____ Von: marcus kirby [mailto:nrvana8775@gmail.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 16. August 2008 18:22 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Re: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? JuanA, she's a woman. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8FFCD.4DC3DF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Sorry, didn't intend any sexual harassment = here...I=20 found "Juan" in the headlines, and I have come not to judge given names = in=20 foreign languages with regard to gender by their spelling (e.g., = "Andrea" in=20 German is female, in Italian it's male - "Juan" in Spanish is (as far as = I know)=20 male, but in Chinese (Cantonese), it's female).
     
           =20 Rainer

    Von: marcus kirby=20 [mailto:nrvana8775@gmail.com]
    Gesendet: Samstag, 16. August = 2008=20 18:22
    An: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Betreff: Re:=20 Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities?

    JuanA, she's a woman. =
    ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8FFCD.4DC3DF40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 16:49:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDBF43BE8F; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001c01c8ffc0$095ca790$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> <48A6869B.1070401@addcom.de> <48A6961E.5010301@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:49:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:49:30 +0000 (UTC) > My calculations are guessing at about 30s of mono-looptime. For reference, the LP1 dedicates 96MB to audio memory which results in approximately 4.5 minutes of stereo recording time. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 17:10:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6274E3BE91; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=PBmEPz+o9yC8pNEYJzmYKTOVcAYa7UO4nB430oqp8uc=; b=xfUHsxEizrbZVg/ozDcdsGqTRMg/MfNVIrdvL78VC+ymt44qMXitAZ7RuxVl0Y0otI 2x5YAsRGhvULABv4HKGDgNum9jBoGKaICEQHxaMrL/VPipMOylMAW6fVBjkWna7TDUv+ 3SzCnwGfCB14qI4YXic5cbexAi0k8djMwHDqg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=DLGzw8K5vZLaQBMEXx/PkWPFotXNIVSUQm55wmJcbmvErp3O3X9GYEfqMfK5eK+WEe 9mtIZ+3TFzHTM/h0z+kfo5fAAxtAOLiAs30lNIfzm6t5yPu0YbfMFwcKDo2XuH9m2S6W HwC85bkVcdxveX58yYSRlMLg014fwtV808X+4= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00808161010i26fcd2dar7694c58ec5a5046c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:10:30 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2536_27578593.1218906630287" References: <1c3a4db00808160921n456d0fc9nc95c50345bc1e882@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:10:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2536_27578593.1218906630287 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Haha, wasn't meant to be any designation of gender bias or whatever, just pointing it out. I read the first thread and then someone that somewhere around the third or fourth thread that the female ending got dropped and she turned into a he :) Either way, the stuff is gooooood. On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill < rs@moinlabs.de> wrote: > Sorry, didn't intend any sexual harassment here...I found "Juan" in the > headlines, and I have come not to judge given names in foreign languages > with regard to gender by their spelling (e.g., "Andrea" in German is female, > in Italian it's male - "Juan" in Spanish is (as far as I know) male, but in > Chinese (Cantonese), it's female). > > Rainer > > ------------------------------ > *Von:* marcus kirby [mailto:nrvana8775@gmail.com] > *Gesendet:* Samstag, 16. August 2008 18:22 > *An:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Betreff:* Re: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? > > JuanA, she's a woman. > > ------=_Part_2536_27578593.1218906630287 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Haha, wasn't meant to be any designation of gender bias or whatever, just pointing it out. I read the first thread and then someone that somewhere around the third or fourth thread that the female ending got dropped and she turned into a he :)

    Either way, the stuff is gooooood.

    On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de> wrote:
    Sorry, didn't intend any sexual harassment here...I found "Juan" in the headlines, and I have come not to judge given names in foreign languages with regard to gender by their spelling (e.g., "Andrea" in German is female, in Italian it's male - "Juan" in Spanish is (as far as I know) male, but in Chinese (Cantonese), it's female).
     
            Rainer

    Von: marcus kirby [mailto:nrvana8775@gmail.com]
    Gesendet: Samstag, 16. August 2008 18:22
    An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Betreff: Re: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities?

    JuanA, she's a woman.

    ------=_Part_2536_27578593.1218906630287-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 17:24:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50C9B3BE87; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: line 6 M13 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:24:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8FF9B.14AE2530" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: Acj/nQbaR5vyooKYShSvn141DylHsgAJTNLA Message-Id: <20080816172457.CE44A3BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:24:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8FF9B.14AE2530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It may take a little longer as I've just been informed that the M 13s are out of stock at my supplier, but a quick restocking is expected. Jeff, my plan is to use the M13 in my band in place of the Pod XT Live, which has served as my pedalboard in front of a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe for several years. I don't loop with the band-yet. The main reason I'm hoping to upgrade is to have access to the delays in the M, and the ability to hook it to the amp using the 4 cable method. I have to say that the XT Live has been excellent for a digital device, trouble free and easy to adapt when necessary. I have dialed in amp models on some patches, but since the unit feeds the front end of the Fender Deluxe, a little goes a long way. One great usage I've found, however, is to set up the patch with overdrive, compression, modulation and delay to taste, then to add a transparent-as-possible amp model as a volume boost to switch on for soloing. It will be interesting to replace this with the M13. Dennis, I will be running in mono, so I won't have stereo comments. Also, my looping gig and rig is much different from many of you I read on LD. I perform in a progressive blues/jam/jazz-ish/occasional-ambient format that is basically a one man band. The rig is guitar>Vox Tonelab>Mackie 1402VLZ>EDP>Bose L1, with extra pedals used for octaves, eq and verbs. I won't be using the M13 in this environment, but am replacing the old blue Tonelab with a new Tonelab LE. The old one has been great, but the LED is unreadable under stage lights or sunlight, and lately it has developed a high frequency oscillation that is really piercing and hard to get rid of. Between the new Tonelab for the solo rig and the M13 for the band, I'll be putting in a lot of programming hours. dave Dave, Do post a review as soon as you can ... 28 second loop ... hmmm ... and STEREO. Dennis On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: I am looking forward to a review from a player. The only concern is the lack of amp modeling as I am looking at it as an all in one consolidation. Jeff R _____ Official news from Line6: feedback level works on the whole loop, not just the overdubs. dave eichenberger: I believe the one cloud in that silver lining is the feedback, I believe, only works on over dubbed material, not the initial loop. I called there support center today and the guy could not definitely say whether or not this was true, and for some reason was not able to have me talk to the one guy in tech support who knows the thing inside and out and actually did beta testing, he mumbled something about the automated switch board service not allowing them to pass calls from one to another.ah the corporate world... This is not a bad thing as it does have two expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for loop volume and the other for feedback. So though you may not be able to be able to use feedback as a way of fading out the whole loop you could use a pedal to manually fade out. I've been doing this for years with a DL-4. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1614 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 5:29 PM -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8FF9B.14AE2530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    It may take a little longer as = I’ve just been informed that the M 13s are out of stock at my supplier, but a = quick restocking is expected. 

     

    Jeff, my plan is to use the M13 = in my band in place of the Pod XT Live, which has served as my pedalboard in front = of a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe for several years.  I don’t loop with = the band—yet.  The main reason I’m hoping to upgrade is to have access to the = delays in the M, and the ability to hook it to the amp using the 4 cable = method.  I have to say that the XT Live has been excellent for a digital device, = trouble free and easy to adapt when necessary.  I have dialed in amp models = on some patches, but since the unit feeds the front end of the Fender = Deluxe, a little goes a long way.  One great usage I’ve found, however, = is to set up the patch with overdrive, compression, modulation and delay to = taste, then to add a transparent-as-possible amp model as a volume boost to = switch on for soloing.  It will be interesting to replace this with the = M13…

     

    Dennis, I will be running in = mono, so I won’t have stereo comments.  Also, my looping gig and rig is = much different from many of you I read on LD.  I perform in a = progressive blues/jam/jazz-ish/occasional-ambient format that is basically a one man band.  The rig is guitar>Vox Tonelab>Mackie = 1402VLZ>EDP>Bose L1, with extra pedals used for octaves, eq and verbs.  I = won’t be using the M13 in this environment, but am replacing the old blue Tonelab = with a new Tonelab LE.  The old one has been great, but the LED is = unreadable under stage lights or sunlight, and lately it has developed a high = frequency oscillation that is really piercing and hard to get rid of.  Between the new = Tonelab for the solo rig and the M13 for the band, I’ll be putting in a = lot of programming hours.

     

    dave

     

    Dave,

    Do post a review as soon as you can ... 28 second loop ... hmmm ... and = STEREO.

    Dennis

    On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> = wrote:

    I am looking forward to a review from a player. The = only concern is the lack of amp modeling as I am looking at it as an all in = one consolidation.

     

    Jeff ®

     

     

     

     

     

    Official news from Line6: feedback = level works on the whole loop, not just the overdubs. =

     

    dave eichenberger: =  

     

     

     I believe the one cloud in that silver = lining is the feedback, I believe, only works on over dubbed material, not the = initial loop. I called there support center today and the guy could not = definitely say whether or not this was true, and for some reason was not able to have = me talk to the one guy in tech support who knows the thing inside and out and = actually did beta testing, he mumbled something about the automated switch board = service not allowing them to pass calls from one to another…ah the = corporate world……. This is not a bad thing as it does have two = expression pedal ports with the ability to set one for loop volume and the other = for feedback. So though you may not be able to be able to use feedback as a = way of fading out the whole loop you could use a pedal to manually fade out. = I've been doing this for years with a DL-4.

     

     

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    ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8FF9B.14AE2530-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 17:31:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 388503BE8B; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: M13 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:31:12 -0700 Message-ID: <005901c8ffc5$e4bc6050$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8FF8B.385D8850" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acj/xeD7BalqL9aeR4231oJQ2Obksg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:31:19 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8FF8B.385D8850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No amp modeling, none, zip, nada, This is purely a stomp box modeler, you would have to use an amp or two as a backline. Mark Hamburg had a creative idea which was to pair an M13 with a couple of the new tech21 character stomp box modelers which I have not tried but look intriguing from a suitcase rig perspective. They make them in a number of British and American flavors, and are not modelers at all, but analog devices. I can attest to the fact that a stereo combination of BF fender clean with Vox warmth is beyond fantastic sounding. It would really be cool to be able to duplicate that sound with out schlepping amps. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8FF8B.385D8850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    No amp modeling, none, zip, nada, This is purely a = stomp box modeler, you would have to use an amp or two as a backline. =  Mark Hamburg had a creative idea which was = to pair an M13 with a couple of the new tech21  character stomp box = modelers which I have not tried but look intriguing from a suitcase rig perspective. =  They make them in a number of British and American flavors, and are not = modelers at all, but analog devices.  I can attest to the fact that a stereo = combination of BF fender clean with Vox warmth is beyond fantastic sounding. It = would really be cool to be able to duplicate that sound with out schlepping = amps.

    Bill

     

    ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C8FF8B.385D8850-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 17:55:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E4383BE8D; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:55:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=CVybufCqFxlFTS2aKqDvCEOB313mwG3ptQhCb7aABvw=; b=HKJ51Tky8ErMpPZN74kZVmGX9x/3B0O2o4rZmY+NOhJ+v7BxdtmyXbbuYBKSgh7Jhq lG4eBR62098WckmU0M/DdzSnXt1MfaTR7hwTFbLDTZmBCHAGFyheXUe5wFly/42u2/Yf 2BCfWc3MiMc7v0td/1EfmfTEUxinMuUSyrGY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=RYr5dDXGmkPV821yc4SmTvPRkuskD3AO0T3K9YFsy8DvGKsHDnp/QA4NqN0R+Nld3n f3CANLdX7wKx35Wt/JYmP3oK1BlR7C+aFbnmDpABYdShcgLzwz813BuFXlKn7TU8R7bl MdnXX0sr3CS9nvNp9LyzbKt9PgGAmC9/VNiYQ= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808161055w3cf69185j179ab3a7bb5badfd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:55:50 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: open source stompbox--looper? In-Reply-To: <001c01c8ffc0$095ca790$5901a8c0@bobdell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <913728d60808150619r1fb65ca0i4f2d2073e5b1ef4a@mail.gmail.com> <20080815163949.543E23BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> <48A6869B.1070401@addcom.de> <48A6961E.5010301@tiscali.co.uk> <001c01c8ffc0$095ca790$5901a8c0@bobdell> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 343f7bd26b86edd7 Resent-Message-ID: <1acfz.A.2nC.nSxpIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:55:52 +0000 (UTC) Im not sure that merely the amount of recording time available is a measure of a loopers quality. The edp hasnt got that much really, the repeater is virtually unlimited, and the LP has 4.5.. its all down to what you can do with it.. as the actress said to the bishop. That might be just me though, does anyone here find that they are ever struggling with looping time? To keep "on thread here" I think the nice thing about this open stomp idea is that (assuming that it / you is clever enough to make a looper at all in this environment) you can visualise one specific thing that your current looper cannot do, and make that. I for example have a whole lot of things I wish my 2 loopers would do, and that no others do!! m On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: >> My calculations are guessing at about 30s of mono-looptime. > > For reference, the LP1 dedicates 96MB to audio memory which results in > approximately 4.5 minutes of stereo recording time. > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 18:32:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30CA53BE8F; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=ne3wil8cuYk232F2RVnrFfbI9tfG8q70lDnDIZZUhw0=; b=jhXu1UWhQICDH9mwtWhCzwAIiABjS/8L0gZf+m1ROD4L0S8uzI83sL4H7iuEZVjCmV 94kCYYAyCY6ZEg8aRpLRweEfzmrhyT6bB4vVpbWfmjG7LdNIld0sO9rslhEviDA7wxGo Jo0Rb9IGBXlig8U44TiXCrg4JEVyfqcUQ8vhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=PuOiXhNj64Fjzem5gbFY3NdV+Lt3Zmmifa+FPMXvdM/qVarzDGG07iv381o2ww3v2V DDN7eH2XLP17wwqJFqxfYrcCCD5qhUyMvrC9PuO+TeVNNAQsZl7WOUeL5dagmGYdbRpW b0sGucC5oy9P+IxlbzInw/j2Qocl8uIdvo8nI= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808161132s16618142m74ffc322b41b7be1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:32:49 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00808161010i26fcd2dar7694c58ec5a5046c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1c3a4db00808160921n456d0fc9nc95c50345bc1e882@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00808161010i26fcd2dar7694c58ec5a5046c@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: dc6c617900712810 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:32:51 +0000 (UTC) But Rainer all that would be assuming that Rick was interested in being a Festival Promoter for quite some months of the year in order to organize all this. As far as I know Ricks day job is as a musician and as such.. aint rich... ha ha! (maybe he is? I did say as far as I know, but I dont know many rich musicians... I know some, not many). Sponsership is of course the way to go for all festivals, but sponsorship only comes with names that draw a crowd. As most of us have not heard of Juanele (just kidding ) before Ricks post, I dont think she counts as a draw. Anyway, I think he does a fantastic job as it is, and I for one will be there this year... Juan or Juana!! m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 19:16:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AE2E3BE8E; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=2ApuJ7Vjp2HcIkQ6AKruO4qCZ9OWquawyNaCVKmY+w0IZTNutXMvsq1Z0cZxygs9HK9qpOZhZAEogio6AJI51xnRxA+dT/8B7XQIiia5kIGcUE9JkCOPFofmblgay6cJnn9qVhhr6YtsJ1z6LfRF1HRxsA7QD6BlPwtlQFoqA0g=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:16:52 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-491188826-1218914212=:8556" Message-ID: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:16:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-491188826-1218914212=:8556 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Live Looper List!=0A=0AThis is Margaret here, I chime in from time to= time and am very much looking forward to Y2K8 this October!=0A=0AIn order = addition to working as an artist, I teach high school. This is my second ye= ar and my bread and butter, the good news is that I love my job. I am desig= nated as the sound production and digital arts instructor. My school is fou= nded on project based learning, it is free to students and functions as a c= harter school. If you are curious about the school, here is the link:=0A=0A= http://www.hightechhigh.org/=0A=0ASo, why am I reaching out to you all?=0A= =0ABasically, I have free reign with my curriculum. I am about to start a 1= 0 week class with a group of 25 tenth graders. I want to focus exclusively = on sound, listening and musical movements (no visual content). I plan on sc= reening lots of documentaries and presenting listening exercises for exposu= re and dialog. Additionally, I want to have morning group improvisational e= xercises. Maybe 5 minutes or so of performance, then record it and play it = back to class. It assumed that most (maybe all) students have absolutely n= o musical training thus the goal is to create exercises where success is ea= sy for the newbie. It is also assumed that these kids definitely will have = moments of shyness and/or pressure to be cool thus anything that goes too = far might be rejected. =0A=0AHere are some ideas I have for tools (suggesti= ons, recommendations based on super low budget please):=0A=0A- Having the s= tudents craft very cheap tonal single notes from pipes for a tonal tool and= having them create an atonal percussive instrument (like shakers).=0A=0A- = Sending an audio out from every classroom computer/midi controller to a cen= tral mixer for computer based sounds improvisational exercises.=0A=0ANow ex= ercises: this is where I need alot of help with:=0A=0A- I am thinking of h= ybrid versions of Steve Reich's =95 Music for 18 Musicians =0A=0Ahttp://www= .youtube.com/watch?v=3DGCZEckS5X94=0A=0AAnd just to throw one more curve ba= ll out when considering this course, I am no musical expert and have been g= etting by with production more than musicianship for my work.=0A=0AOk, so = there it is! I am looking for your input on listening exercises (musical an= d purely sound-art), instrument construction, improvisational warm-ups and = even performance or recording projects.=0A=0AThanks for reading and I hope = to hear from you all!!!!!=0A=0Ahttp://margaretnoble.net/=0A=0A=0A --0-491188826-1218914212=:8556 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hello Live Looper List!

    This is Margaret here, I chime in from t= ime to time and am very much looking forward to Y2K8 this October!

    I= n order addition to working as an artist, I teach high school. This is my s= econd year and my bread and butter, the good news is that I love my job. I = am designated as the sound production and digital arts instructor. My schoo= l is founded on project based learning, it is free to students and function= s as a charter school. If you are curious about the school, here is the lin= k:

    http://www.hightechhigh.org/

    So, why am I reaching out to = you all?

    Basically, I have free reign with my curriculum. I am about= to start a 10 week class with a group of 25 tenth graders. I want to focus= exclusively on sound, listening and musical movements (no visual content). I plan on screening lots of documentaries and presenting listeni= ng exercises for exposure and dialog. Additionally, I want to have morning = group improvisational exercises. Maybe 5 minutes or so of performance, then= record it and play it back to class. It assumed that most  (maybe all= ) students have absolutely no musical training thus the goal is to create e= xercises where success is easy for the newbie. It is also assumed that thes= e kids definitely will have moments of shyness and/or pressure to be cool t= hus  anything that goes too far might be rejected.

    Here are so= me ideas I have for tools (suggestions, recommendations based on super low = budget please):

    - Having the students craft very cheap tonal single = notes from pipes for a tonal tool and having them create an atonal percussi= ve instrument (like shakers).

    - Sending an audio out from every clas= sroom computer/midi controller to a central mixer for computer based sounds improvisational exercises.

    Now exercises: this is where I ne= ed alot of help with:

    - I am  thinking of hybrid versions of St= eve Reich's =95 Music for 18 Musicians

    http://www.youtube.com/watch= ?v=3DGCZEckS5X94

    And just to throw one more curve ball out when cons= idering this course, I am no musical expert and have been getting by  = with production more than musicianship for my work.

    Ok, so there it = is! I am looking for your input on listening exercises (musical and purely = sound-art), instrument construction, improvisational warm-ups and even perf= ormance or recording projects.

    Thanks for reading and I hope to hear= from you all!!!!!

    http://margaretnoble.net/




    =0A=0A --0-491188826-1218914212=:8556-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 19:56:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B96963BE91; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lhGZ6so3e+vzXUok1sT/jSmogjxFjjTueTFmOWp13k4=; b=eSNGa6lqZenKFMKCHmk1ULrZIlFtLhJXzECypRMP4M2x8LmQt9Kj2bCs3eevnJdMF5 kw3JV4Fll0eIaV6hiG8PUbDJg++Drwtn0q+WrYlDHdI3/UD7AFoO2ZrPZZsNVQJFC6JE qrGE7ZZlSwatx9K1MAY/jjkBukTrIgSVzmrVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=X3+yoqZvw+0lGchWbEnO3kb0KzUVWbOQAFl1zvAUAdbtFWZkHeqiBuKQefrZE8Wx29 k4tM94oww/Fyd8B3P2QRx+qbYpV6g/V5fJhxGWqvvlLbfjoWLL5zOgqtazoKb45Skaf1 FPs4D9XX1ryfEVwW58Dtl0Y3FIVyoS4A2e6xo= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:56:50 -0600 From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boss GT10 / SL-20 Slicer In-Reply-To: <60715.72.22.1218896131.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_55713_799650.1218916610841" References: <60715.72.22.1218896131.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:56:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_55713_799650.1218916610841 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Per mentioned this 'slicing' vst (see below) a while back (end of May). I like this effect (BOSS Slicer) but I def think the same and more can be achieved with plug ins. If this unit were fully controllable via midi it would be a lot cooler. Looks like a plug and play solution for a non computer user. Per Boysen wrote: Cairo Tempo Gate! http://free-loops.com/vst-plugin-21.html I use it to slice up a delay return, pre looper, in my Bidule Mobius setup. The same developer offers some other interesting experimental plug-ins. Here's the presentation text on Cairo Temo Gate: "Cairo Tempo Gate v1.3 is a tempo synchronized gate effect. choose a gate speed, and modify the envelope to cut up your audio into different sized slices, with soft or smooth edges. version 1.2 features: 8 new presets, independent mix for filter and distortion, improved performance & compatibility. the speed parameter can now be automated on CC 23 (or by auto linking on the up/down boxes, not the drop down menu) If you listen to the demo you can tell this plugin sounds like its made for Hard House, and in fact it seems to do really well for the music genre. However it can be used for just about any genre if you just want to edged or gate a beat or track a small amount. It's really a smooth little free vst plugin, and just like the other free vst's at tweakbench they are not computer processor hogs." On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa wro= te: > Hi Raul, > > Interested in those plugins you mentioned. > Have any links, you share with us? > > Thanks, > > Andre > > andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > On Sat, August 16, 2008 8:07 am, Raul Bonell wrote: > > ------=3D_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > > (not read the manual, but...) > > > > in there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose is a lite version of > > this. > > but it seems that you can't program patterns in this unit. same for the > > gt-3's. neither do grooves based on more complex periodicities. > > there are some free/donationware plugins out there that can beat the bo= ss > > slicers easily. > > > > anyhow, is a nice extra for the gt pedalboard family which i'm a big fa= n > > since they came out. > > > > raul. > > > > 2008/8/16 Buzap Buzap > > > >> Hi Folks > >> > >> yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss GT10B. I > >> was > >> really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of settings an= d > >> features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect pedal, > >> you > >> have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can > >> assign > >> even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX but for > >> each > >> parameter. > >> Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight > >> forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!). > >> > >> I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really opens u= p > >> a > >> new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 Slice= r > >> by > >> Boss. Really thrilled me! > >> Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's good: > >> http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D959 > >> > >> best regards > >> Buzap > >> -- > >> Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten > >> Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > > > > ------=3D_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866 > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > >
    (not read the manual, but...)

    in > > there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose is a lite version of thi= s. > > but it seems that you can't program patterns in this unit. same for > > the gt-3's. neither do grooves based on more complex > > periodicities.
    > >
    there are some free/donationware plugins out there that > can > > beat the boss slicers easily.

    anyhow, is a nic= e > > extra for the gt pedalboard family which i'm a big fan since they > came > > out.
    > >

    raul.

    2008/8/16 B= uzap > > Buzap < > href=3D"mailto:buzap@gmx.net">buzap@gmx.net>
    > class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc > > solid;padding-left:1ex;"> > > Hi Folks
    > >
    > > yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss GT10B.= I > > was really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of settings > > and features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect > pedal, > > you have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can > > assign even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX b= ut > > for each parameter.
    > > > > Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight > > forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!).
    > >
    > > I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really opens up= a > > new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 Slicer > by > > Boss. Really thrilled me!
    > > Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's good:
    > > > target=3D"_blank"> > http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D959
    > >
    > > best regards
    > > Buzap
    > > --
    > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten
    > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: > target=3D"_blank">http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser
    > >
    > >



    --
    The Playing > > Orchestra: > href=3D"http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo"> > http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain > > Tape Collective: > href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com">http://www.ct-collective.com<= br> > > TPO at myspace: > href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra"> > http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO > > at Jamendo: > href=3D"http://www.jamendo.com">http://www.jamendo.com
    > >
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    Per mentioned this 'slicing' vst (see below) a whi= le back (end of May).  I like this effect (BOSS Slicer) but I def thin= k the same and more can be achieved with plug ins.  If this unit were = fully controllable via midi it would be a lot cooler.  Looks like a pl= ug and play solution for a non computer user.

    Per Boysen wrote:
    Cairo Tempo Gate!
    http://free-loops.com/vst-plugin-21.html=

    I use it to slice up a delay return, pre looper, in my Bidule Mobiussetup. The same developer offers some other interesting experimental
    pl= ug-ins. Here's the presentation text on Cairo Temo Gate:

    "C= airo Tempo Gate v1.3 is a tempo synchronized gate effect. choose a
    gate speed, and modify the envelope to cut up your audio into
    different = sized slices, with soft or smooth edges. version 1.2
    features: 8 new pre= sets, independent mix for filter and distortion,
    improved performance &a= mp; compatibility. the speed parameter can now be
    automated on CC 23 (or by auto linking on the up/down boxes, not the
    drop down menu) If yo= u listen to the demo you can tell this plugin
    sounds like its made for H= ard House, and in fact it seems to do really
    well for the music genre<= /span>. However it can be used for just about any
    genre if you just want= to edged or gate a beat or track a small
    amount. It's really a smoo= th little free vst plugin    , and just like the
    other free vst's at tweakbench they are not computer processor hogs.&qu= ot;

    On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Andr= =E9 Donawa <a= ndre@andredonawa.com> wrote:
    Hi Raul,

    Interested in those plugins you mentioned.
    Have any links, you share with us?

    Thanks,

    Andre

    andredonawa.com http://cdba= by.com/all/andredonawa
    http://www= .myspace.com/andredonawa

    On Sat, August 16, 2008 8:07 am, Raul Bonell wrote:
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    >
    > (not read the manual, but...)
    >
    > in there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose is a lite version of=
    > this.
    > but it seems that you can't program patterns in this unit. same fo= r the
    > gt-3's. neither do grooves based on more complex periodicities. > there are some free/donationware plugins out there that can beat the b= oss
    > slicers easily.
    >
    > anyhow, is a nice extra for the gt pedalboard family which i'm a b= ig fan
    > since they came out.
    >
    > raul.
    >
    > 2008/8/16 Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.n= et>
    >
    >> Hi Folks
    >>
    >> yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss G= T10B. I
    >> was
    >> really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of setting= s and
    >> features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect pe= dal,
    >> you
    >> have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can=
    >> assign
    >> even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX but= for
    >> each
    >> parameter.
    >> Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight
    >> forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!).
    >>
    >> I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really ope= ns up
    >> a
    >> new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 S= licer
    >> by
    >> Boss. Really thrilled me!
    >> Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's good: >> http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?Pro= ductId=3D959
    >>
    >> best regards
    >> Buzap
    >> --
    >> Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten
    >> Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    > --
    > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    > TPO at Jamendo: h= ttp://www.jamendo.com
    >
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    >
    > <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>(not read the manual, but.= ..)</div><div><br></div>in
    > there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose i= s a lite version of this.
    > but it seems that you can&#39;t program patterns in this uni= t. same for
    > the gt-3&#39;s. neither do grooves based on more complex
    > periodicities.<div>
    > <br></div><div>there are some free/donationware plug= ins out there that can
    > beat the boss slicers easily.</div><div><br></div= ><div>anyhow, is a nice
    > extra for the gt pedalboard family which i&#39;m a big fan since t= hey came
    > out.</div>
    > <div><br></div><div>raul.<br><br>&= lt;div class=3D"gmail_quote">2008/8/16 Buzap
    > Buzap <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a
    > href=3D"mailto:buzap@gmx.net= ">buzap@gmx.net</a>&= gt;</span><br><blockquote
    > class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border= -left:1px #ccc
    > solid;padding-left:1ex;">
    > Hi Folks<br>
    > <br>
    > yesterday a bass player I&#39;m playing with showed off his Boss G= T10B. I
    > was really impressed with the device. Easy to us= e and a lot of settings
    > and features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect pe= dal,
    > you have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can=
    > assign even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX = but
    > for each parameter.<br>
    >
    > Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight
    > forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!).<br>
    > <br>
    > I was especially impressed with the included Sli= cer. It really opens up a
    > new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 Slice= r by
    > Boss. Really thrilled me!<br>
    > Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it&#39;s good:&l= t;br>
    > <a href=3D"http://www.bossus.com/gear/product= details.php?ProductId=3D959"
    > target=3D"_blank">http://www.bossus.com/= gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D959</a><br>
    > <br>
    > best regards<br>
    > Buzap<br>
    > <font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
    > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten<br>
    > Browser-Versionen downloaden: <a href=3D"http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser<= /a>"
    > target=3D"_blank">    http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser</a><b= r>
    > <br>
    > </font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D&= quot;all"><br>-- <br>The Playing
    > Orchestra: <a
    > href=3D"http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo">http://www.telefonica.net/web= 2/tpo</a><br>Chain
    > Tape Collective: <a
    > href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><b= r>
    > TPO at myspace: <a
    > href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra">http:= //www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra</a><br>TPO
    > at Jamendo: <a
    > href=3D"http= ://www.jamendo.com">http://www.jamendo.com</a><br>
    > </div></div>
    >
    > ------=3D_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866--
    >





    ------=_Part_55713_799650.1218916610841-- From info.hkeitc2008@googlemail.com Sat Aug 16 22:00:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 17367 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:00:15 UTC Received: from mail.nutn.edu.tw (mail.nutn.edu.tw [140.133.2.10]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4CC3BE84; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.nutn.edu.tw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.nutn.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB3146B9E; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:38:16 +0800 (CST) From: "Hong Kong Export Trade Intrn Co" Reply-To: info.hkeitc2008@yahoo.com.hk Subject: (Free Job Offer For You With 10%) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:38:16 +0800 Message-Id: <20080816093816.M28686@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 77.73.187.171 (gac295) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Paid Work Avialable; Job Opportunity: Hong Kong Export & International Trade Co. is providing opportunity for paid work, an earnings related compensation of 10% will be paid to you. please note; it is an online Job Offer and, we are not trying to be begulling...For more details and adduced explanation, Contact this Email address; info.hkeitc2008@yahoo.com.hk; info.hkeitc08@yahoo.com.hk Mr. Wong Wang Liu, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 22:26:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B7973BE94; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <48A679A4.6000005@addcom.de> References: <011c01c8fe0a$4ddd3590$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <4E90302B6FB94FFA900257FF953CEC75@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48A679A4.6000005@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:23:11 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b5711201bc68488df134a679ab3a71ba1b961398483c75118a9a15a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Let's not confuse "soundproofing" with "acoustical treatments"...! >Krispen Hartung schrieb: >>The results were amazing, almost uncanny. The room was almost too >>soundproofed and sounded very weird. > >Which proofes: Soundproofing for the outside, and soundproofing for >the inside are completely different beast, not related to each other >at all... ;-) > >-- >Stefan Tiedje------------x------- >--_____-----------|-------------- >--(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- >-- _|_)----|-----()-------------- >----------()--------www.ccmix.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 22:50:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 565CB3BE8F; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBOD/ggskS Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:50:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808161132s16618142m74ffc322b41b7be1@mail.gmail.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Acj/zn3cHI4Ef4GOQ827lgH4OtmkbgAI5Upg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:50:51 +0000 (UTC) > But Rainer all that would be assuming that Rick was > interested in being a Festival Promoter for quite some months > of the year in order to organize all this. As far as I know I believe that Rick isn't (and never was) interested in becoming a promoter for several months, but remembering what he said (also on this list) about the reality of his festival shows that he's already past this point... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 16 23:51:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D52073BE86; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006801c8fffb$141a6f10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:51:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Mark wrote, in my defence (and thanks), "But Rainer all that would be assuming that Rick was interested in being a Festival Promoter for quite some months of the year in order to organize all this. As far as I know Ricks day job is as a musician and as such.. aint rich... ha ha! (maybe he is? I did say as far as I know, but I dont know many rich musicians... I know some, not many)." The irony is that I DO spend months out of the year producing and promoting this festival.............all on no money, except the draw of attendance which has never exceeded $1,500 in the entire history of the festival and the beneficence of a few donors to the festival and, last year, a small grant from the Cultural Council of Santa Cruz (all of which I used to bring more artists here). I really appreciate everyone's good intentions (and thanks for the advice, rainer), but the fact of the matter is that I"m not thinking small with this thing. Basically, because of the huge amount of energy that this thing takes (which dips tremendously into my own energy for being an artist myself), I have to make it sustainable, not only for the community, but also for me. I came really close to stopping doing it this year because I had to produce and book an 8 week/9 country tour in Europe that took a good 6 months to accomplish and just didn't think I"d have the 5-6 months that it has taken in the past 3 or 4 years to do this festival, so this year, I decided, I was just going to do it to continue the tradition and not kill myself by trying to best the output of the last three years. Santa Cruz is a funny place. It is probably the most creative place on earth that I've been to if you take the per capita amount of artists that live here and the quality of their creative output in all art forms. We were just listed (with three other major American cities) as the place with the most professional artists per capita in the US. That's extraordinary for a sometimes sleepy tourist town of 50,000 by bay. However, there is also probably more entertainment per capita than any where I've ever been as well. We had two weekly entertainment magazines and a weekly insert for the main newspaper as well and the entertainment section for music alone goes for several pages each week. Trying to even book this festival between the good weather months of May through October (that's California weather for you Europeans who are interested, where it's hotter in September than in July). We have so many film festivals, music festivals, Shakespeare Santa Cruz, the huge Cabrillo Music Festival, the Monterey Jazz Festival, the San Jose Jazz Festival, the Greek Festival, the Japanese Festival, et. al. that I finally found one weekend where there was as little conflict as possible. We are also in a debilitating economic depression here. The average value of a house her declined by $250,000- $300,000 in the last year alone and the unemployment rate is 10% in this county. Most people here are underpaid, paying rent that is way to high by normal indexes of house rental versus income statistics.............people are broke. This is a festival that, for the amount of music and the quality of the top players should go for $20 a head AT LEAST, but it is impossible to get people to come if you charge that. Even the biggest names in our looping world do not have the draw to charge prices like this for the festival. Trust me, I know. I know all the promoters in this city for 30 years and I"ve done huge events myself. The whole point is not that I'm being negative at all. Think about it: Why would I dedicate so much of my life for the last 8 years to something that loses me money if I was being negative about this? The point is sustainability. No one in all the countries that I've visited have been able to muster even 100 people to attend the festivals and concerts that we do. Rainer, Munchen is a huge city and you saw how difficult it was to get people to come out to see something brand new. It is just what we are up against, and, honestly, I'm okay with it. I sometimes tell people that these festivals are as much conventions as they are festivals. Part of the beauty of them is to rally our community; to force people to get out and try out new things and techniques; for manufacturers to have a forum to show off their new gear; to get people excited , once again, to keep doing this thing that we all love so much. This festival is a blessing in my life whether it is on a grand scale or not. So, please, trust me on this one: I don't think I can get Juana Molina to come play our festival. I hear your strategy Rainer , for getting a bigger draw to be able to sustain bringing such an incredible artist who has no draw locally, but it's just not that easy. You have to have money and be willing to lose it to bring it a really big act because you have to guarantee them that they will be paid. Santa Cruz is so mercurial when it comes to who draws well (the local 1,000 seat showcase club, the Catalyst sits empty most of the time these days because NOBODY on a moderate level is making any money at all touring) that it's a risk I can't possibly take myself. If someone in this community who has a lot of money and wants to gift the community with an investment wants to come forward and give me the money to bring Juana I'm all for it, trust me. So for everyone who disagrees with me and thinks I'm giving up to easily, I only ask that you please put the energy into such a task yourself. I'll be the first to say I was wrong if you can accomplish it (with no funding as is my situation). Okay, I"m outa here. This is my last post on the subject. I hope you all come to the festival this year and make it a great success. I will for the first time ever, accept donations from the artists who play to offset our expenses and pay the staff. Don't dream of it if you don't have it but if you do, it would be a nice adjunct to the hard work we all do to make this a possibility every year. yours, respectfully, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 00:11:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F01E23BE87; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20080816070846.C42E83BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20080816070846.C42E83BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-106514875 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: OT: DIY Music Room sound-proofing Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:11:23 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:11:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-106514875 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed sofas = great bass traps books on the whole back wall, mattresses, Owens Corning 704 or Roxul Safe and Sound covered with fabric Polycylindrical diffusors (half moons - vertical - like cylinders standing on end) made of masonite and stuffed with fiberglass/rockwool. fairly easy to make if you are crafty. They're diffusors carpet on floor a cloud suspended from ceiling filled with soft stuff to absorb sound ABOVE the sound source lots of human bodies are great big stuffed chairs random stuff that disperses/diffuses the sound - racks, furniture, keyboards, amps etc. Stuff that is higher than your ears is good. try to make it symmetrical as far as random stuff around the room rugs on wall If it's sound getting out, density is the best. 20' thick concrete walls and Blue Cheer or Metallica could rehearse next to a Tibetan meditation temple and no one would blink. It sounded to me like sound WITHIN the room was your concern If you wanna spend money and look cool, there's all that foam stuff. Cut it with an electric knife. That Weiner guy who makes the Real Traps has a good site with info on how to build bass traps. Sometimes just leaving doors open is a good bass trap. Round all corners or fill em with soft stuff like Owens Corning 704 or the Roxul or foam Roxul Safe & Sound is made in Canada and I have 22 two foot by four foot panels in my recording room. 4" thick. Worked GREAT for subduing room reverb. Don't wanna kill all of it except for vocals. A totally dead room is NO FUN to play in. Drums sound much better in more live rooms. High ceilings are glorious. Mine are 12' now. NO ceilings or walls would be best. Most rooms have problems with bass. I still haven't solved that one but have learned to live with it and mix around it. There's lots online about bass traps etc. I built a bunch and hope to put them up maybe this winter. I'm fearful of changing anything in my control room because it's working so well now. But I think I'm gonna have to because I'm drastically revising my whole setup this winter (I think). And because record companies etc are so thoroughly submerged in hype and old husband's tales about sound and what works and doesn't work. I spent a fortune on my old studio on the east coast. Hired designer etc. It was like working in a coffin. I hated it. And it didn't sound all that much better either and my mixes were strange. So, stay out of coffins until your choices expire It's not really rocket science. Just put up temporary stuff and see how it works... and FEELS. Probably the very best advice is, if you're MIXING, get the best monitors you can afford and mix at VERY LOW volumes. You can turn it up now and then to make sure the details are there. But don't forget to turn it back down. And leave the low level alone. It's better for your mixes AND the longevity of your ears. Listening at low volume's done more for me than all the money I've spent on room treatment a million times over. Turn it down and give it time. I have ZERO treatment on the walls in my control room now. They say it can't work. But one record we mixed here was on the Canadian chart last year for nearly a year. Most of that time in the top ten. Songs featured on TV shows etc. One record got glowing reviews in Spin Magazine a few months ago. So... it can work. Just takes a little longer. AND... lower levels. Listen to lots of different kinds of records in your mix room so you can know what it's doing. I use Quested monitors. Love 'em. I hear Adams are good too. I hope this helps and isn't too stupid good luck! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 16-Aug-08, at 12:08 AM, Dave Gallaher wrote: > In several different dwellings, I've conducted amplified band > rehearsals and > recorded one album, mixed another. In each location, I went to all the > neighbors well in advance of the first event with my business card and > told > them to call if the noise bothered them, and that we would stop > immediately. > > No one ever called. I kept rehearsals to 90 minutes, usually in the > late > afternoon before many are home from work. Mixing required some volume > at > times (and I confess to liking to test a mix by walking around the > outside > of the house with all the doors and windows shut), but no one ever > complained. Offering consideration and cooperation up front may not > work > with everyone in every situation, but it is a good investment. > > dave > > But usually we don't need disco level in our studio, maybe > worrying about the neighbours is better done with knowing them and > asking for hours you can make noise without disturbing them too much... > > Stefan > > > > --Apple-Mail-1-106514875 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII sofas = great bass traps books on the whole back wall, mattresses, Owens Corning 704 or Roxul Safe and Sound covered with fabric Polycylindrical diffusors (half moons - vertical - like cylinders standing on end) made of masonite and stuffed with fiberglass/rockwool. fairly easy to make if you are crafty. They're diffusors carpet on floor a cloud suspended from ceiling filled with soft stuff to absorb sound ABOVE the sound source lots of human bodies are great big stuffed chairs random stuff that disperses/diffuses the sound - racks, furniture, keyboards, amps etc. Stuff that is higher than your ears is good. try to make it symmetrical as far as random stuff around the room rugs on wall If it's sound getting out, density is the best. 20' thick concrete walls and Blue Cheer or Metallica could rehearse next to a Tibetan meditation temple and no one would blink. It sounded to me like sound WITHIN the room was your concern If you wanna spend money and look cool, there's all that foam stuff. Cut it with an electric knife. That Weiner guy who makes the Real Traps has a good site with info on how to build bass traps. Sometimes just leaving doors open is a good bass trap. Round all corners or fill em with soft stuff like Owens Corning 704 or the Roxul or foam Roxul Safe & Sound is made in Canada and I have 22 two foot by four foot panels in my recording room. 4" thick. Worked GREAT for subduing room reverb. Don't wanna kill all of it except for vocals. A totally dead room is NO FUN to play in. Drums sound much better in more live rooms. High ceilings are glorious. Mine are 12' now. NO ceilings or walls would be best. Most rooms have problems with bass. I still haven't solved that one but have learned to live with it and mix around it. There's lots online about bass traps etc. I built a bunch and hope to put them up maybe this winter. I'm fearful of changing anything in my control room because it's working so well now. But I think I'm gonna have to because I'm drastically revising my whole setup this winter (I think). And because record companies etc are so thoroughly submerged in hype and old husband's tales about sound and what works and doesn't work. I spent a fortune on my old studio on the east coast. Hired designer etc. It was like working in a coffin. I hated it. And it didn't sound all that much better either and my mixes were strange. So, stay out of coffins until your choices expire It's not really rocket science. Just put up temporary stuff and see how it works... and FEELS. Probably the very best advice is, if you're MIXING, get the best monitors you can afford and mix at VERY LOW volumes. You can turn it up now and then to make sure the details are there. But don't forget to turn it back down. And leave the low level alone. It's better for your mixes AND the longevity of your ears. Listening at low volume's done more for me than all the money I've spent on room treatment a million times over. Turn it down and give it time. I have ZERO treatment on the walls in my control room now. They say it can't work. But one record we mixed here was on the Canadian chart last year for nearly a year. Most of that time in the top ten. Songs featured on TV shows etc. One record got glowing reviews in Spin Magazine a few months ago. So... it can work. Just takes a little longer. AND... lower levels. Listen to lots of different kinds of records in your mix room so you can know what it's doing. I use Quested monitors. Love 'em. I hear Adams are good too. I hope this helps and isn't too stupid good luck! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 16-Aug-08, at 12:08 AM, Dave Gallaher wrote: In several different dwellings, I've conducted amplified band rehearsals and recorded one album, mixed another. In each location, I went to all the neighbors well in advance of the first event with my business card and told them to call if the noise bothered them, and that we would stop immediately. No one ever called. I kept rehearsals to 90 minutes, usually in the late afternoon before many are home from work. Mixing required some volume at times (and I confess to liking to test a mix by walking around the outside of the house with all the doors and windows shut), but no one ever complained. Offering consideration and cooperation up front may not work with everyone in every situation, but it is a good investment. dave But usually we don't need disco level in our studio, maybe worrying about the neighbours is better done with knowing them and asking for hours you can make noise without disturbing them too much... Stefan --Apple-Mail-1-106514875-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 00:22:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DCB23BE8F; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=f+m56Ln4A7xUBMkAy4Senidrhn2zjruVMVOF5D9fIjkO2LQZAqVtVPBGfYtrtDmt; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <21460842.1218932558204.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:22:37 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48096023f00a8097175425b8de0bd7158031a49835436c9336350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.38 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:22:38 +0000 (UTC) rick said... >The irony is that I DO spend months out of the year producing and >promoting this festival i back you up 100% RickWalker and will kick anyones ass who doesnt agree! plus i'll be bringin a 20 dollar bill towards the proceeds-and think everyone playin should do the same. money tite everywhere. seeya @ the festivities oh eight stylee. staninsanfran From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 00:35:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEC8E3BE86; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-107936986 Message-Id: <5e9197ce009da9807bebc49c78874958@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:35:05 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <1kv5pB.A.oBC.8I3pIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:35:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-107936986 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Hi Margaret I'm in one of those odd blips where I have some time and your query=20 sparked my motor so... I think the human voice is the ultimate axe. Anyone can make vocal=20 sound. It can be anything from grunts to singing to noises etc. If you have digital editing capacity you can fiddle with pitch,=20 reversing, cutting words up, making harmony... Have kids make the sound of moods, colors, planets and stars etc. =20 Express being a kid like never before! I know from my studio that it ALWAYS blows kids minds when you do a=20 little voice blip and then scratch it rap style or mangle it. Voices are cheap and the ultimate tool of expression Have groups make group sounds. Back in the 60's there was a big movement - I think called 'treated=20 voices' that was REALLY COOL with voices doing non voice like things. =20= It was very experimental stuff. Some of the college jazz acapella=20 choirs are now doing stuff like that and it's very cool. And it's very=20= popular in those schools too. You could create a drum bed and sync the voice / noises to the beat. You could, of course, do the drums with the voice. I like it because it would be relatively easy to do and bring fairly=20 immediate results. Do an opera! Obviously, NOT Mozart or Hair. An arty opera. Just=20 thinking out loud. The first barrier will be them wanting to sing pop songs. But that=20 could be turned around too. Okay... I gotta get back to work. I hope I've understood your quest....=20= but it sounds like some kind of product might be a good goal. A CD at the end of ten weeks? all the beast richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 16-Aug-08, at 12:16 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Hello Live Looper List! > > This is Margaret here, I chime in from time to time and am very much=20= > looking forward to Y2K8 this October! > > In order addition to working as an artist, I teach high school. This=20= > is my second year and my bread and butter, the good news is that I=20 > love my job. I am designated as the sound production and digital arts=20= > instructor. My school is founded on project based learning, it is free=20= > to students and functions as a charter school. If you are curious=20 > about the school, here is the link: > > http://www.hightechhigh.org/ > > So, why am I reaching out to you all? > > Basically, I have free reign with my curriculum. I am about to start a=20= > 10 week class with a group of 25 tenth graders. I want to focus=20 > exclusively on sound, listening and musical movements (no visual=20 > content). I plan on screening lots of documentaries and presenting=20 > listening exercises for exposure and dialog. Additionally, I want to=20= > have morning group improvisational exercises. Maybe 5 minutes or so of=20= > performance, then record it and play it back to class. It assumed that=20= > most=A0 (maybe all) students have absolutely no musical training thus=20= > the goal is to create exercises where success is easy for the newbie.=20= > It is also assumed that these kids definitely will have moments of=20 > shyness and/or pressure to be cool thus=A0 anything that goes too far=20= > might be rejected. > > Here are some ideas I have for tools (suggestions, recommendations=20 > based on super low budget please): > > - Having the students craft very cheap tonal single notes from pipes=20= > for a tonal tool and having them create an atonal percussive=20 > instrument (like shakers). > > - Sending an audio out from every classroom computer/midi controller=20= > to a central mixer for computer based sounds improvisational=20 > exercises. > > Now exercises: this is where I need alot of help with: > > - I am=A0 thinking of hybrid versions of Steve Reich's =95 Music for = 18=20 > Musicians > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGCZEckS5X94 > > And just to throw one more curve ball out when considering this=20 > course, I am no musical expert and have been getting by=A0 with=20 > production more than musicianship for my work. > > Ok, so there it is! I am looking for your input on listening exercises=20= > (musical and purely sound-art), instrument construction,=20 > improvisational warm-ups and even performance or recording projects. > > Thanks for reading and I hope to hear from you all!!!!! > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > > > --Apple-Mail-2-107936986 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Hi Margaret I'm in one of those odd blips where I have some time and your query sparked my motor so... I think the human voice is the ultimate axe. Anyone can make vocal sound. It can be anything from grunts to singing to noises etc. =20 If you have digital editing capacity you can fiddle with pitch, reversing, cutting words up, making harmony... Have kids make the sound of moods, colors, planets and stars etc.=20 Express being a kid like never before! I know from my studio that it ALWAYS blows kids minds when you do a little voice blip and then scratch it rap style or mangle it.=20 Voices are cheap and the ultimate tool of expression Have groups make group sounds. Back in the 60's there was a big movement - I think called 'treated voices' that was REALLY COOL with voices doing non voice like things. =20= It was very experimental stuff. Some of the college jazz acapella choirs are now doing stuff like that and it's very cool. And it's very popular in those schools too. =20 You could create a drum bed and sync the voice / noises to the beat. =20 You could, of course, do the drums with the voice. =20 I like it because it would be relatively easy to do and bring fairly immediate results.=20 Do an opera! Obviously, NOT Mozart or Hair. An arty opera. Just thinking out loud.=20 The first barrier will be them wanting to sing pop songs. But that could be turned around too. =20 Okay... I gotta get back to work. I hope I've understood your quest.... but it sounds like some kind of product might be a good goal. =20 A CD at the end of ten weeks? =20 all the beast Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C =20 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com =20 www.broombusters.org On 16-Aug-08, at 12:16 PM, margaret noble wrote: New YorkHello Live Looper List! New YorkThis is Margaret here, I chime in from time to time and am very much looking forward to Y2K8 this October! New YorkIn order addition to working as an artist, I teach high school. This is my second year and my bread and butter, the good news is that I love my job. I am designated as the sound production and digital arts instructor. My school is founded on project based learning, it is free to students and functions as a charter school. If you are curious about the school, here is the link: New = Yorkhttp://www.hightechhigh.org/ New YorkSo, why am I reaching out to you all? New YorkBasically, I have free reign with my curriculum. I am about to start a 10 week class with a group of 25 tenth graders. I want to focus exclusively on sound, listening and musical movements (no visual content). I plan on screening lots of documentaries and presenting listening exercises for exposure and dialog. Additionally, I want to have morning group improvisational exercises. Maybe 5 minutes or so of performance, then record it and play it back to class. It assumed that most=A0 (maybe all) students have absolutely no musical training thus the goal is to create exercises where success is easy for the newbie. It is also assumed that these kids definitely will have moments of shyness and/or pressure to be cool thus=A0 anything that goes too far might be rejected. New YorkHere are some ideas I have for tools (suggestions, recommendations based on super low budget please): New York- Having the students craft very cheap tonal single notes from pipes for a tonal tool and having them create an atonal percussive instrument (like = shakers). New York- Sending an audio out from every classroom computer/midi controller to a central mixer for computer based sounds improvisational = exercises. New YorkNow exercises: this is where I need alot of help with: New York- I am=A0 thinking of hybrid versions of Steve Reich's =95 Music for 18 = Musicians New = Yorkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGCZEckS5X94 New YorkAnd just to throw one more curve ball out when considering this course, I am no musical expert and have been getting by=A0 with production more than musicianship for my work. New YorkOk, so there it is! I am looking for your input on listening exercises (musical and purely sound-art), instrument construction, improvisational warm-ups and even performance or recording projects. New YorkThanks for reading and I hope to hear from you all!!!!! New = Yorkhttp://margaretnoble.net/ = --Apple-Mail-2-107936986-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 01:48:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37EAA3BE86; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:48:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=lpLSTarXYGF0nUVfHfKBIYjGKH6GABTMPhh7PcwM69Q=; b=G3bf3RC5Fm1HHHImnKxvGH060bW9xEd6fOQRwM0tspZh6xHCAqocx7y4Qhw6ixtYQy 7uBSc08bw3rimT2jBkfE5nZU7b92oHsY5xYOJ5mM/plUfPCiw9FDr7KBAxkmnV4ZZDBh Qqt7eh7rOWHOs4x1dfQWgrctP3hZTwPRXpwT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=XwY4XEBHqsCjFF5qUS+IubK1D9Xq7KE2voz3Bkka1tsKjJU0eO7ggbbeD7+/Yr8T/s 8LSFo/vujh4cHYJWVOQAoZH7t20ljwS8SMW06jJELEQ6lcBs2I9Cjp+FoHo5aEZdBqsD xkB96hJrR8D/Oz8KTEGs261bk8m5nKM0PrhhQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:47:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:48:01 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 16, 2008, at 12:16 PM, margaret noble wrote: > I want to focus exclusively on sound, listening and musical > movements (no visual content). I plan on screening lots of > documentaries and presenting listening exercises for exposure and > dialog. It is interesting that the words "no visual content" are immediately followed by "screening lots of documentaries." :-) > It assumed that most (maybe all) students have absolutely no > musical training thus the goal is to create exercises where success > is easy for the newbie. snip.... > Ok, so there it is! I am looking for your input on listening > exercises (musical and purely sound-art), instrument construction, > improvisational warm-ups and even performance or recording projects. I would recommend multiple listens to "Heart of the Forest" the music of the Baka from Cameroon. They make music with water splashes. Beautiful use of rustic sound sources but not primitive music. Very accessible. Also, listen to Balinese Gamelan then listen to John Cage prepared piano music. I would keep things simple, maybe exploring ostinato - short repetitive rhythmic figures (loops!) - that can be used as building blocks. Pass an ostinato from person to person or group to group. Vary ostinato person to person, etc. Then explore "call and response" as an approach to structure. Two other good places to ask your questions: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/oddmusic/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/junkmusic/ regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 02:27:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A6F33BE8C; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:27:47 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UKN0IQWRBxwA:10 a=Noahj8Ppcr0A:10 a=VxQ3lHnlAAAA:8 a=CiAeAVzCAAAA:8 a=6hjJ5wE9AAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=qSEgxVnzAAAA:8 a=I1qsq1VIh15y04aSYxgA:9 a=vlng-0YfOZE1VO0PreSXyKadxqkA:4 a=ZXVL2aL9CgQA:10 a=uck1hQWDf7kA:10 a=BDXKcin-EtgA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8F569EF5-AEFC-4044-BD21-82751CA0E60A@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ed Drake Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:22:08 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <2UPncD.A.PIE.jy4pIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Several things that come to mind are to explore rhythmic ideas =20 anybody can clap or stomp and bang on found objects. Some rhythmic ideas ideas might be gleaned from here http://=20 www.ancient-future.com/atfp.html There's some stuff online as well =20 as a book/CD you can order. There is a pdf you can download and print of Terry Riley's in C that =20 might be fun to try with a class. http://www.otherminds.org/shtml/=20 Scores.shtml On Aug 16, 2008, at 3:16 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Hello Live Looper List! > > This is Margaret here, I chime in from time to time and am very =20 > much looking forward to Y2K8 this October! > > In order addition to working as an artist, I teach high school. =20 > This is my second year and my bread and butter, the good news is =20 > that I love my job. I am designated as the sound production and =20 > digital arts instructor. My school is founded on project based =20 > learning, it is free to students and functions as a charter school. =20= > If you are curious about the school, here is the link: > > http://www.hightechhigh.org/ > > So, why am I reaching out to you all? > > Basically, I have free reign with my curriculum. I am about to =20 > start a 10 week class with a group of 25 tenth graders. I want to =20 > focus exclusively on sound, listening and musical movements (no =20 > visual content). I plan on screening lots of documentaries and =20 > presenting listening exercises for exposure and dialog. =20 > Additionally, I want to have morning group improvisational =20 > exercises. Maybe 5 minutes or so of performance, then record it and =20= > play it back to class. It assumed that most (maybe all) students =20 > have absolutely no musical training thus the goal is to create =20 > exercises where success is easy for the newbie. It is also assumed =20 > that these kids definitely will have moments of shyness and/or =20 > pressure to be cool thus anything that goes too far might be =20 > rejected. > > Here are some ideas I have for tools (suggestions, recommendations =20 > based on super low budget please): > > - Having the students craft very cheap tonal single notes from =20 > pipes for a tonal tool and having them create an atonal percussive =20 > instrument (like shakers). > > - Sending an audio out from every classroom computer/midi =20 > controller to a central mixer for computer based sounds =20 > improvisational exercises. > > Now exercises: this is where I need alot of help with: > > - I am thinking of hybrid versions of Steve Reich's =95 Music for 18 =20= > Musicians > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGCZEckS5X94 > > And just to throw one more curve ball out when considering this =20 > course, I am no musical expert and have been getting by with =20 > production more than musicianship for my work. > > Ok, so there it is! I am looking for your input on listening =20 > exercises (musical and purely sound-art), instrument construction, =20 > improvisational warm-ups and even performance or recording projects. > > Thanks for reading and I hope to hear from you all!!!!! > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 03:08:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65C113BE87; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:08:15 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UKN0IQWRBxwA:10 a=Noahj8Ppcr0A:10 a=G9OGWAMdAAAA:8 a=mDFkj05rCzDEJyrwomgA:9 a=gJXsPRyjLnhlC7kIqtbd16qTEDAA:4 a=LeMhHKIAj8YA:10 a=E9lley4SEvUA:10 a=289yWXT-99IA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <662BFF2B-2A72-44C5-9E93-0FA42D88B0DC@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ed Drake Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:02:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:08:15 +0000 (UTC) OOOOppps!!!!! Sorry for the last email I got distracted by a phone call and hit the send button before I meant to, I was going to edit out the original post so it wasn't so huge. A couple of books that have great stories and observations and some listening exercises are The Listening Book and The Musical Life both by W A Mathieu. Other books: Sound and Structure by John Paynter and Composing Music by Willian Russo Other thoughts I had were using PVC pipe to make instruments including a didgeridoo using beeswax for the mouth piece. http:// www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Didgeridoo-out-of-PVC-Pipe Experiment with drones and ostinato. I'll probably think of more later. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 03:29:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EB143BE8B; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <662BFF2B-2A72-44C5-9E93-0FA42D88B0DC@comcast.net> References: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <662BFF2B-2A72-44C5-9E93-0FA42D88B0DC@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8559C7A8-CD6F-409F-925B-AA86B78203FB@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:29:31 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:29:39 +0000 (UTC) > Other thoughts I had were using PVC pipe to make instruments > including a didgeridoo using beeswax for the mouth piece. http:// > www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Didgeridoo-out-of-PVC-Pipe Experiment with > drones and ostinato. I fondly remember when Texas musician and innovator Steve Marsh performed with 2 other performers in my record store / art gallery back in Dallas in the late 80s. Steve played a "modified" electric guitar, but also performed on an instrument of his own creation which was a full length, hollow body DOOR that he had built / attached some over sized string frets on, and had pick ups installed on the thing. He both strummed it and also played like a dulcimer, and even used it as a percussion instrument. And the other 2 performers? One of them played a standard, non-modified electric bass (and played it damned GOOD too!) and the drummer / percussionist performed only on a few 5 gallon plastic water bottles, and a small BUTANE TANK. Their set was GREAT! Those were the days... But, can ya just imagine a BUNCH of different types of those custom built "door instruments" all gathered together as an ensemble? I guess it could be called a "DOORCHESTRA"! Har! Hey! Why not...!? -Rev. Fever Portland, OR From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 06:13:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E22713BE85; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1243 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:13:14 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <20080816070846.C42E83BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-126574714 Message-Id: From: Scott Duncan Subject: Re: OT: from sound-proofing/ to life looping Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:45:43 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:13:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-126574714 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Aug 16, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > So, stay out of coffins until your choices expire This line of yours is very cool & appealing / it resonates well. Could be a song lyric....or maybe an epitaph,,,, Sounds like a loop/ looping I guess...... (or a vampire movie). (...mind if I barrie it for a track sometime?) Also liked your dead/ not dead, gratefully? story in prior email.... Thx scott duncan WNC --Apple-Mail-1-126574714 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

    On = Aug 16, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Richard Sales wrote:

    So, stay out of coffins = until your choices expire

    =



    This line of yours is very = cool & appealing /=A0it=A0resonates well.=A0
    Could be a song = lyric....or=A0maybe an epitaph,,,,=A0

    Sounds like a = loop/=A0
    looping I guess...... (or a vampire = movie).=A0

    (...mind if I barrie it for = a track sometime?)

    Also liked your dead/ not = dead, gratefully? story in prior email....

    Thx
    scott = duncan
    WNC

    = --Apple-Mail-1-126574714-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 10:57:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3EEE3BE8E; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 320 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:57:33 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 847754.50031.bm@omp112.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=S+pyyCtJZUAVU7T7XU0d+puaLL2EQ/pK5QYCjT4BW1yRCbVO9lkPY4cAHg+daLlJNLAmmQp0SShth17WdPPg9Qnr3GDKmXkN8r3PeQiRf+RYTd7W8wx0+t9Su8hVmtjCB7Nm64nhQwXOkJNVwF2tLeeCzpsTi5uwQeanShmlmN4=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:52:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: Re: Pix To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <4407.2836.qm@web45308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, Some photos of a recent LD-related musical event may be seen at and LD-ers Chinapainting (Daryl Shawn and Jim Goodin), Dennis Moser and Tim Nelson, plus non-looper Rob Byrd at the Nave Gallery, Somerville, MA from the rainy night of August 2nd, 2008. -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 16:03:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 109F43BE8B; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:03:12 EDT Subject: it don't hurt to ask To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d08.402297e3.35d9a5c0_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:03:26 +0000 (UTC) --part1_d08.402297e3.35d9a5c0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i would be more than willing to cut short my "I'M TOO PRETTY FOR CALIFORNIA" tour, happining right now in my studio, to go to y2k8.....not to play but to bask in the unbridled fellowship of loopage.....is anyone from back here in the east (i'm in pittsburgh) thinking of driving out to cali?.....a road trip indeed.....let me know.....i have all the time in the world but no transport.....btb, any action on the north east hoedown?.....i could smack a lude samich and ride a bus to that gig.....:).....m p.s. tim.....i loved the pix of the four of you at the church, 3 turned away interacting with their MACHINES and only one appearing to "play" "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) --part1_d08.402297e3.35d9a5c0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i would be more than willing to cut sho= rt my "I'M TOO PRETTY FOR CALIFORNIA" tour, happining right now in my studio= , to go to y2k8.....not to play but to bask in the unbridled fellowship of l= oopage.....is anyone from back here in the east (i'm in pittsburgh) thinking= of driving out to cali?.....a road trip indeed.....let me know.....i have a= ll the time in the world but no transport.....btb, any action on the north e= ast hoedown?.....i could smack a lude samich and ride a bus to that gig.....= :).....m
    p.s. tim.....i loved the pix of the four of you at the church, 3 turned away= interacting with their MACHINES and only one appearing to "play"

    "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY

    new groovy tunes at:
    http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
    www.ct-collective.com





    **************
    Looking for a car that's sporty, fun= and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.
    (http://autos.= aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=3Daolaut00030000000007= ) --part1_d08.402297e3.35d9a5c0_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 16:46:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08AC13BE84; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <20080816070846.C42E83BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-166211248 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: OT: from sound-proofing/ to life looping Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:46:19 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <7JPnOD.A.iIF.eXFqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:46:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-166211248 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well thanks so much for the kindness Scott. Of course you can use the line as long as I get a copy of what you do! It did ring with me too when I wrote it. But I've written way too many=20= songs to worry about gravel that falls out of the truck in transport. stay bright richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 16-Aug-08, at 10:45 PM, Scott Duncan wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > >> So, stay out of coffins until your choices expire > > > > This line of yours is very cool & appealing /=A0it=A0resonates well.=A0 > Could be a song lyric....or=A0maybe an epitaph,,,,=A0 > > Sounds like a loop/=A0 > looping I guess...... (or a vampire movie).=A0 > > (...mind if I barrie it for a track sometime?) > > Also liked your dead/ not dead, gratefully? story in prior email.... > > Thx > scott duncan > WNC > --Apple-Mail-2-166211248 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well thanks so much for the kindness Scott.=20 Of course you can use the line as long as I get a copy of what you do! It did ring with me too when I wrote it. But I've written way too many songs to worry about gravel that falls out of the truck in transport. =20= stay bright Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C =20 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com =20 www.broombusters.org On 16-Aug-08, at 10:45 PM, Scott Duncan wrote: On Aug 16, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Richard Sales wrote: So, stay out of coffins until your choices expire This line of yours is very cool & appealing /=A0it=A0resonates well.=A0 Could be a song lyric....or=A0maybe an epitaph,,,,=A0 Sounds like a loop/=A0 looping I guess...... (or a vampire movie).=A0 (...mind if I barrie it for a track sometime?) Also liked your dead/ not dead, gratefully? story in prior email.... Thx scott duncan WNC = --Apple-Mail-2-166211248-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 17:33:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0ABE3BE8E; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=V8ueBDuZhmeb7xDImr1JOC+pFDLOVN/nTkLlmjrTPlA=; b=WNpDVefiTQamhr/lorsQ2Dgyj6V1cgV0BF77vrXAlFJyr5ADgQb28MygdLQZ09sT// 5R142TMTbIuDTTstmxUHgUdsUEiLs0bfaLBN1uLjCX6sM0863piDBrchs7iJc3dcgNIL zZLifu3XujcFcp+Sknlxnzm/hSw22ZNcU3hy8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=WQ67N6TNxrJwaLRyRCjuz3fhkUwDQrVG42HVp7Zqxy8NWHIVVhY4pG+4dROIFxl6wn zux5Xo52dZ1OUqpCOMK4I2uSaEkqEIoigexiN0KpRQteOcZaBPDiTwg+fQuxw3Fuhq7v m/KSlQYLkMY959RTSPwFpaJEw9XK4dR1YFvmw= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:33:36 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: it don't hurt to ask In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11085_7803629.1218994416869" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:33:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11085_7803629.1218994416869 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hmmm ... if you're talking about this one ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/96446257@N00/2759286984/in/set-72157606697754088/) ... We were all trying to get ready for the performance ... Jim's rig was directly in front of him, so he could monitor it and still look like he was playing (*GRIN) ... the rest of us had it all off to the sides, or in Tim's case, all around! Best, Dennis (who tries to look at the rig as little as possible!) On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:03 PM, wrote: > p.s. tim.....i loved the pix of the four of you at the church, 3 turned > away interacting with their MACHINES and only one appearing to "play" > > "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY > > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > ************** > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews > on AOL Autos. > ( > http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007) -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_11085_7803629.1218994416869 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Hmmm ... if you're talking about this one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96446257@N00/2759286984/in/set-72157606697754088/) ... We were all trying to get ready for the performance ... Jim's rig was directly in front of him, so he could monitor it and still look like he was playing (*GRIN) ... the rest of us had it all off to the sides, or in Tim's case, all around!

    Best,

    Dennis (who tries to look at the rig as little as possible!)

    On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:03 PM, <Nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
    p.s. tim.....i loved the pix of the four of you at the church, 3 turned away interacting with their MACHINES and only one appearing to "play"

    "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY

    new groovy tunes at:
    http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
    www.ct-collective.com





    **************
    Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.
    (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )



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    ------=_Part_11085_7803629.1218994416869-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 21:21:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B55123BE87; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=qtU4cvZFyGKcJEaayJxlH42jBCnxM5/624FOG4QmiaQ=; b=wq31SRpL9L8Z9NfrykZOiItSvTVttfTnzRzam1ldbxNYTxA+wLp+iYkPktMlr0Twf3 /qUoXN/OhV3HkWWGwT1vkoPWaMnIV/BTDaNQpdKiPUE/TAl8j0ISAZMhFfovdiTYG+Pv 0BCd6iOpwG5ExWePnV4T2tJkcPvUSMbqQQ2bY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Sxc6IlLEdZr7MDTBs/ZYW8rp6qdQbOb50RVzuP8E/jK/3Mw3YhvBae39TFN1r//s5p aNjcKOJuEJus58G568K8SaCbbZOec6a2yczeSK8myhCszQqEUJA88Z24XrisVVKLVa8r OAN6BKlg5YSd0ZJdj7rPZ09CApo96+wMohRAM= Message-ID: <26ba8d120808171421s9d7a757sb7abd71c94a1aec2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:21:29 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: aaronleese@flyloops.com Subject: Re: FlyLoops update Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2657983d61af465c9e8fe96548a4d2f2@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_339_2061855.1219008089685" References: <2657983d61af465c9e8fe96548a4d2f2@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2daa45dbee97f015 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:21:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_339_2061855.1219008089685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sorry you aren't getting responses. I actually just found this email in my Spam folder, perhaps that's it? But I don't have a PC anyway, so I can't check it out... On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM, aaronleese@flyloops.com < aaronleese@flyloops.com> wrote: > > I get about 100 downloads now a month, but still no feedback from the folks > on this group ..... weird that people don't seem more interested .... I > would have thought this would be ground zero for new looping device > commentary ...... > > anyway, here's an update and maybe this time I can get some comments ..... > > I just put the finishing touches on midi learn and bundled a FCB1010 config > which should load up as the default when you run the program. > > So you can download, unzip, and loop immediately. > > FlyLoops has five parallel loops each independently configurable and all > that. > > I've mentioned all the functions on here before, and they are available on > the website, so I won't bother with that again ...... the big ones are real > time loop turntablism, and frequency shifting that stays in step with tempo > by restarting with the master ...... project heartbeat, I usually call that. > > Otherwise, stack, multiply, overwrite, fade .... all the usual stuff. > > VST compatibility coming soon. Mac version after that. > Currently only windows, and only ASIO. > > www.flyloops.com/download.htm for the download > > www.flyloops.com for the specs and everything else. > > comments, questions, anyone ? > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From*: "Krispen Hartung" > *Sent*: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:25 PM > *To*: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject*: Re: New software looper > > That's right. Aren't you a memeber of the Pave the Earth Society yet? Let's > > get it over with. Let the street sweepers rule. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Yeah, fuck trees! > > On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > >> Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I have to > >> check this out. I think it was designed by tree huggers, though. :) > >> > >> > >> Kris > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >>> Looks interesting- > >>> > >>> http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php > >>> > >>> The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it depends > >>> how well that works for "live" looping needs. > >>> > >>> Best- > >>> > >>> Mark > >> > > > > > -- /t ------=_Part_339_2061855.1219008089685 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Sorry you aren't getting responses.  I actually just found this email in my Spam folder, perhaps that's it?  But I don't have a PC anyway, so I can't check it out...

    On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM, aaronleese@flyloops.com <aaronleese@flyloops.com> wrote:

    I get about 100 downloads now a month, but still no feedback from the folks on this group ..... weird that people don't seem more interested .... I would have thought this would be ground zero for new looping device commentary ......

    anyway, here's an update and maybe this time I can get some comments .....

    I just put the finishing touches on midi learn and bundled a FCB1010 config which should load up as the default when you run the program.

    So you can download, unzip, and loop immediately.

    FlyLoops has five parallel loops each independently configurable and all that.

    I've mentioned all the functions on here before, and they are available on the website, so I won't bother with that again ...... the big ones are real time loop turntablism, and frequency shifting that stays in step with tempo by restarting with the master ...... project heartbeat, I usually call that.

    Otherwise, stack, multiply, overwrite, fade .... all the usual stuff.

    VST compatibility coming soon.  Mac version after that. 
    Currently only windows, and only ASIO.

    www.flyloops.com/download.htm for the download

    www.flyloops.com for the specs and everything else.

    comments, questions, anyone ?









    From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
    Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:25 PM
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re: New software looper

    That's right. Aren't you a memeber of the Pave the Earth Society yet? Let's
    get it over with. Let the street sweepers rule.

    Kris

    ----- Original Message -----


    > Yeah, fuck trees!
    > On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:
    >
    >> Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I have to
    >> check this out. I think it was designed by tree huggers, though. :)
    >>
    >>
    >> Kris
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >>
    >>> Looks interesting-
    >>>
    >>> http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php
    >>>
    >>> The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it depends
    >>> how well that works for "live" looping needs.
    >>>
    >>> Best-
    >>>
    >>> Mark
    >>
    >





    --
    /t

    ------=_Part_339_2061855.1219008089685-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 17 22:55:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E44F3BE85; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=4s7ahSb3kHzWdYTyjMk4N4+Z6nhfrjmfygOt4mAMD2LkrvsatD3nNVU7b6LHKW9NutU/2x7/kn0T7qiFTMWN/Z8zFix55AGWY2D/IQP7KzMRwKiJAsp6ZJld8pJEcqL8u5jc8oq7cokfZXhcRR6zt0m8LLpJdRGiriIUXnYG60g= ; X-YMail-OSG: vFuPHaAVM1lGr7VzX9szP18oYArWBwL.f5izpVXeh7g335WiWE_cNTeptxLfHybJsn1..lwfdstxxp_rsW2tPT0d9iEVvdvB0fvCOs_pcQhS80z5vcuQ3fk.vvZanUQFZPAOa9TDSK5P.4RsiM0vmniP X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Ricky Graham" To: Cc: "Rick Walker" , Subject: "1314" - EDP + Ableton + Reason + MAX/MSP - Live Recording Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:55:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c900bc$624aa300$26dfe900$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C900C4.C40F0B00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AckAvGDgvCW9e3iVT2m6yqSdtG136g== Content-Language: en-gb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:55:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C900C4.C40F0B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Guys & Gals, Rick suggested I send out a few words to the LD community on a track I recorded recently. It is a live recording of a composition for live electric guitar and electronics. I'm using a DL4 and an EDP to loop the live guitar elements. The DL4 is there to create initial textures and the EDP is my main looper. The EDP syncs Ableton Live 6 with Reason rewired, providing drum loops and synthesizers. On top of that we have the live guitar feed being manipulated using Max/MSP patch. I'm using Infra Red, Pressure, and Motion Sensors, two of which are interfacing with Max/MSP via an Arduino board. The Infra Red sensor is using the object, "Granola" in Max/MSP. "Granola" was designed by Eric Lyon . The Pressure sensor is using a chain delay and the Motion Sensor is using "Jitter."The sensors are there merely to embellish the live guitar, mainly when soloing. I have more info on the MAX/MSP elements, including video demonstrations @ http://rickygraham.blogspot.com And the track is available for download via my MySpace page @ www.myspace.com/rickygraham It's the second track, "1314 live for the BBC." Your feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Ricky Graham info@rickygraham.net +44(0)7743537349 www.rickygraham.net ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C900C4.C40F0B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hi Guys & Gals,

     

    Rick suggested I send out a few words to the LD = community on a track I recorded recently. It is a live recording of a composition for = live electric guitar and electronics. I’m using a DL4 and an EDP to = loop the live guitar elements. The DL4 is there to create initial textures and = the EDP is my main looper. The EDP syncs Ableton Live 6 with Reason rewired, = providing drum loops and synthesizers. On top of that we have the live guitar feed = being manipulated using Max/MSP patch. I'm using Infra Red, Pressure, and = Motion Sensors, two of which are interfacing with Max/MSP via an Arduino board. The Infra Red sensor = is using the object, "Gr= anola" in Max/MSP. "Granola" was designed by Eric = Lyon. The Pressure sensor is using a chain delay and the Motion Sensor is = using "Jitter.&q= uot;The sensors are there merely to embellish the live guitar, mainly when = soloing.

     

    I have more info on the MAX/MSP elements, including = video demonstrations @ http://rickygraham.blogspot.com<= /a>

    And the track is available for download via my = MySpace page @ www.myspace.com/rickygraham

    It’s the second track, “1314 live for = the BBC.”

     

    Your feedback would be greatly = appreciated!

     

    Thanks,

     

    Ricky = Graham

    info@rickygraham.net

    +44(0)7743537349

     

    www.rickygraham.net

     

    ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C900C4.C40F0B00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 00:51:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C46C3BE75; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <61543.69.73.1219020679.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:51:19 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Boss GT10 / SL-20 Slicer From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Thanks. Looks interesting, I'll give it try. Andre andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Sat, August 16, 2008 3:56 pm, ^|>^m wrote: > ------=_Part_55713_799650.1218916610841 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: inline > > Per mentioned this 'slicing' vst (see below) a while back (end of May). I > like this effect (BOSS Slicer) but I def think the same and more can be > achieved with plug ins. If this unit were fully controllable via midi it > would be a lot cooler. Looks like a plug and play solution for a non > computer user. > > Per Boysen wrote: > Cairo Tempo Gate! > http://free-loops.com/vst-plugin-21.html > > I use it to slice up a delay return, pre looper, in my Bidule Mobius > setup. The same developer offers some other interesting experimental > plug-ins. Here's the presentation text on Cairo Temo Gate: > > "Cairo Tempo Gate v1.3 is a tempo synchronized gate effect. choose a > gate speed, and modify the envelope to cut up your audio into > different sized slices, with soft or smooth edges. version 1.2 > features: 8 new presets, independent mix for filter and distortion, > improved performance & compatibility. the speed parameter can now be > automated on CC 23 (or by auto linking on the up/down boxes, not the > drop down menu) If you listen to the demo you can tell this plugin > sounds like its made for Hard House, and in fact it seems to do really > well for the music genre. However it can be used for just about any > genre if you just want to edged or gate a beat or track a small > amount. It's really a smooth little free vst plugin, and just like the > other free vst's at tweakbench they are not computer processor hogs." > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa > wro= > te: > >> Hi Raul, >> >> Interested in those plugins you mentioned. >> Have any links, you share with us? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Andre >> >> andredonawa.com >> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa >> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa >> >> On Sat, August 16, 2008 8:07 am, Raul Bonell wrote: >> > ------=3D_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866 >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > Content-Disposition: inline >> > >> > (not read the manual, but...) >> > >> > in there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose is a lite version of >> > this. >> > but it seems that you can't program patterns in this unit. same for >> the >> > gt-3's. neither do grooves based on more complex periodicities. >> > there are some free/donationware plugins out there that can beat the >> bo= > ss >> > slicers easily. >> > >> > anyhow, is a nice extra for the gt pedalboard family which i'm a big >> fa= > n >> > since they came out. >> > >> > raul. >> > >> > 2008/8/16 Buzap Buzap >> > >> >> Hi Folks >> >> >> >> yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss GT10B. I >> >> was >> >> really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of settings >> an= > d >> >> features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect >> pedal, >> >> you >> >> have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can >> >> assign >> >> even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX but >> for >> >> each >> >> parameter. >> >> Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight >> >> forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!). >> >> >> >> I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really opens >> u= > p >> >> a >> >> new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 >> Slice= > r >> >> by >> >> Boss. Really thrilled me! >> >> Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's good: >> >> http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D959 >> >> >> >> best regards >> >> Buzap >> >> -- >> >> Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten >> >> Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo >> > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra >> > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com >> > >> > ------=3D_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866 >> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > Content-Disposition: inline >> > >> >
    (not read the manual, >> but...)

    >in >> > there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose is a lite version of >> thi= > s. >> > but it seems that you can't program patterns in this unit. same >> for >> > the gt-3's. neither do grooves based on more complex >> > periodicities.
    >> >
    there are some free/donationware plugins out there that >> can >> > beat the boss slicers easily.

    anyhow, is a >> nic= > e >> > extra for the gt pedalboard family which i'm a big fan since they >> came >> > out.
    >> >

    raul.

    2008/8/16 >> B= > uzap >> > Buzap <> > href=3D"mailto:buzap@gmx.net">buzap@gmx.net>
    te >> > class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc >> > solid;padding-left:1ex;"> >> > Hi Folks
    >> >
    >> > yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss >> GT10B.= > I >> > was really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of >> settings >> > and features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect >> pedal, >> > you have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you can >> > assign even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX >> b= > ut >> > for each parameter.
    >> > >> > Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight >> > forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!).
    >> >
    >> > I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really opens >> up= > a >> > new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 >> Slicer >> by >> > Boss. Really thrilled me!
    >> > Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's good:
    >> > > href=3D"http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D95= > 9" >> > target=3D"_blank"> >> http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D959
    >> >
    >> > best regards
    >> > Buzap
    >> > --
    >> > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten
    >> > Browser-Versionen downloaden: > href=3D"http://www.gmx.net/de/go/brows= > er" >> > target=3D"_blank">http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser
    >> >
    >> >



    --
    The Playing >> > Orchestra: > > href=3D"http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo"> >> http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain >> > Tape Collective: > > href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com">http://www.ct-collective.com<= > br> >> > TPO at myspace: > > href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra"> >> http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO >> > at Jamendo: > > href=3D"http://www.jamendo.com">http://www.jamendo.com
    >> >
    >> > >> > ------=3D_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866-- >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > ------=_Part_55713_799650.1218916610841 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: inline > >
    Per mentioned this 'slicing' vst (see below) a > whi= > le back (end of May).  I like this effect (BOSS Slicer) but I def > thin= > k the same and more can be achieved with plug ins.  If this unit were > = > fully controllable via midi it would be a lot cooler.  Looks like a > pl= > ug and play solution for a non computer user.
    >
    Per Boysen wrote:
    Cairo Tempo Gate!
    href=3D"http://= > free-loops.com/vst-plugin-21.html" target=3D"_blank"> class=3D"yshortc= > uts" > id=3D"lw_1218916092_0">http://free-loops.com/vst-plugin-21.html= >
    >
    I use it to slice up a delay return, pre looper, in my Bidule > Mobius>setup. The same developer offers some other interesting >> experimental
    pl= > ug-ins. Here's the presentation text on Cairo Temo > Gate:

    "C= > airo Tempo Gate v1.3 is a tempo synchronized gate effect. choose a
    > gate speed, and modify the envelope to cut up your audio into
    different > = > sized slices, with soft or smooth edges. version 1.2
    features: 8 new > pre= > sets, independent mix for filter and distortion,
    improved performance > &a= > mp; compatibility. the speed parameter can now be
    > automated on CC 23 (or by auto linking on the up/down boxes, not > the
    an class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1218916092_1">drop down menu) If > yo= > u listen to the demo you can tell this plugin
    sounds like its made for > H= > ard House, and in fact it seems to do really
    > well for the music > genre<= > /span>. However it can be used for just about any
    genre if you just > want= > to edged or gate a beat or track a small
    amount. It's really a > smoo= > th little cursor= > : pointer;" class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1218916092_3">free vst > plugin     an>, and just like the
    > other free vst's at tweakbench they are not computer processor > hogs.&qu= > ot;

    On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:15 AM, > Andr= > =E9 Donawa < href=3D"mailto:andre@andredonawa.com">a= > ndre@andredonawa.com> wrote:
    >
    = > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Raul,
    >
    > Interested in those plugins you mentioned.
    > Have any links, you share with us?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Andre
    >
    > target=3D"_blank">andredonawa.com> > target=3D"_blank">http://cdba= > by.com/all/andredonawa
    > target=3D"_blank">http://www= > .myspace.com/andredonawa
    >
    > On Sat, August 16, 2008 8:07 am, Raul Bonell wrote:
    > > ------=3D_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866
    > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
    > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    > > Content-Disposition: inline
    >
    >
    > > (not read the manual, but...)
    > >
    > > in there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose is a lite version > of= >
    > > this.
    > > but it seems that you can't program patterns in this unit. same > fo= > r the
    > > gt-3's. neither do grooves based on more complex > periodicities.> > > there are some free/donationware plugins out there that can beat the > b= > oss
    > > slicers easily.
    > >
    > > anyhow, is a nice extra for the gt pedalboard family which i'm a > b= > ig fan
    > > since they came out.
    > >
    > > raul.
    > >
    > > 2008/8/16 Buzap Buzap < href=3D"mailto:buzap@gmx.net">buzap@gmx.n= > et>
    > >
    > >> Hi Folks
    > >>
    > >> yesterday a bass player I'm playing with showed off his Boss > G= > T10B. I
    > >> was
    > >> really impressed with the device. Easy to use and a lot of > setting= > s and
    > >> features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect > pe= > dal,
    > >> you
    > >> have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you > can= >
    > >> assign
    > >> even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX > but= > for
    > >> each
    > >> parameter.
    > >> Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight
    > >> forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!).
    > >>
    > >> I was especially impressed with the included Slicer. It really > ope= > ns up
    > >> a
    > >> new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 > S= > licer
    > >> by
    > >> Boss. Really thrilled me!
    > >> Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it's > good: r> > >> href=3D"http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId= > =3D959" > target=3D"_blank">http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?Pro= > ductId=3D959
    > >>
    > >> best regards
    > >> Buzap
    > >> --
    > >> Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten
    > >> Browser-Versionen downloaden: href=3D"http://www.gmx.net/de/go/= > browser" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > The Playing Orchestra: = > target=3D"_blank">http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    > > Chain Tape Collective: target= > =3D"_blank">http://www.ct-collective.com
    > > TPO at myspace: href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra"= > target=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    > > TPO at Jamendo: target=3D"_blank">h= > ttp://www.jamendo.com
    > >
    >
    > ------=3D_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866
    > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1
    > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    > > Content-Disposition: inline
    > >
    > > <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>(not read the manual, > but.= > ..)</div><div><br></div>in
    >
    > there old gt-3 existed a slicer which i supose > i= > s a lite version of this.
    >
    > but it seems that you can&#39;t program patterns in this > uni= > t. same for
    > > the gt-3&#39;s. neither do grooves based on more complex
    > > periodicities.<div>
    > > <br></div><div>there are some free/donationware > plug= > ins out there that can
    > > beat the boss slicers > easily.</div><div><br></div= > ><div>anyhow, is a nice
    > > extra for the gt pedalboard family which i&#39;m a big fan since > t= > hey came
    > > out.</div>
    > > > <div><br></div><div>raul.<br><br>&= > lt;div class=3D"gmail_quote">2008/8/16 Buzap
    > > Buzap <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a
    > > href=3D"mailto: href=3D"mailto:buzap@gmx.net">buzap@gmx.net= > "> href=3D"mailto:buzap@gmx.net">buzap@gmx.net</a>&= > gt;</span><br><blockquote
    > > class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 > .8ex;border= > -left:1px #ccc
    > > solid;padding-left:1ex;">
    > > Hi Folks<br>
    > > <br>
    > > yesterday a bass player I&#39;m playing with showed off his Boss > G= > T10B. I
    >
    > was really impressed with the device. Easy to > us= > e and a lot of settings
    > > and features. I.e. you can have 4 effect pedals and for each effect > pe= > dal,
    > > you have 2 additional control buttons. On each control button, you > can= >
    > > assign even several changes... Also has presets not only for multi-FX > = > but
    >
    > for each parameter.<br>
    >
    >
    > > Just to put things in prespective: looper is pretty straight
    >
    > forward/simple. And Input is only Mono (argh!).<br>
    > > <br>
    >
    > I was especially impressed with the included > Sli= > cer. It really opens up a
    > > new sound dimension. I guess it is very similar to the new SL-20 > Slice= > r by
    >
    > Boss. Really thrilled me!<br>
    > > Check out the Product Demo Video on the web site, it&#39;s > good:&l= > t;br>
    > > <a href=3D" href=3D"http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetail= > s.php?ProductId=3D959" > target=3D"_blank">http://www.bossus.com/gear/product= > details.php?ProductId=3D959"
    > > target=3D"_blank"> href=3D"http://www.bossus.com/gear/p= > roductdetails.php?ProductId=3D959" > target=3D"_blank">http://www.bossus.com/= > gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D959</a><br>
    > > <br>
    > > best regards<br>
    > > Buzap<br>
    > > <font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
    > > Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten<br>
    > > Browser-Versionen downloaden: <a href=3D" href=3D"http://www= > .gmx.net/de/go/browser" > target=3D"_blank">http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser<= > /a>"
    > > target=3D"_blank">     href=3D"http://www.gmx.net/de/go/bro= > wser" > target=3D"_blank">http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser</a><b= > r>
    > > <br>
    > > </font></blockquote></div><br><br > clear=3D&= > quot;all"><br>-- <br>The Playing
    > > Orchestra: <a
    > > href=3D" target=3D"= > _blank">http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo"> href=3D"http://w= > ww.telefonica.net/web2/tpo" > target=3D"_blank">http://www.telefonica.net/web= > 2/tpo</a><br>Chain
    > > > Tape Collective: <a
    > > href=3D" target=3D"_blank= > ">http://www.ct-collective.com"> href=3D"http://www.ct-collec= > tive.com" > target=3D"_blank">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><b= > r>
    > > > TPO at myspace: <a
    > > href=3D" ta= > rget=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra"> = > href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra" > target=3D"_blank">http:= > //www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra</a><br>TPO
    > > > at Jamendo: <a
    > > href=3D" target=3D"_blank">http= > ://www.jamendo.com"> =3D"_blank">http://www.jamendo.com</a><br>
    > > </div></div>
    > >
    > > ------=3D_Part_1954_458007.1218888474866--
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

    > > ------=_Part_55713_799650.1218916610841-- > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 06:47:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE6623BE84; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 380 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:47:53 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 131228.24278.bm@omp102.mail.re1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=UO3ZkXVQTtsAD+RIoF8Y87Jl0cISZl44KZTlbZg2N5TRyGqJm9Lb+gsplPCS4dOaA8dH0iFH6aAk+eMkvmVB03l8u2+YiB27donDDPlJv3FvAB+1CsfSdniAfIxAflfPw4kLHfmFXNOBGskr/nCW/JLDtB1fRsBwCbJJJ67ZzwU= ; X-YMail-OSG: dN0uJo0VM1m6s4wbsq0oXlBRq2cZHH_bpAnMbh2EMfDKUJhvt5tw8b8elYg4tyWGbVcGemg5ikUwO.9NPCVe.GFB2S6z7aWgohxNU0J_XojBxVqb9y7w1vtejnmx3YZ7IDI2HCnKF2_SBGVM6JCRXsAj X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00cc01c900fd$6273c550$0692a8c0@voo.intra> From: "Ben" To: Subject: ambiloop Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:41:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Hello loopers, I didn't see this info on the list so I thought I should post it. There is a new version of ambiloop in beta state that you can download @ http://ambiloop.com/forum/ You can make comments too to improve the version. I know some are using it on this list so now you are informed. New features include some more effects, a-b slider (cf live), visual representation of the waveform, possibility to trim/change the starting point,... It seems quite stable but the more testers the more bug we can find. Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 11:29:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CA803BE85; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <010001c90125$b24d2df0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: re: pix Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:29:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Oooooh, oooooh, oooooh, ooooooh, Are you going to bring your Oud to the Y2K8 Festival, Jim? I have one you can borrow if you want, with a really good Shertler pickup you can borrow as well if transporting that delicate thing is tough. I'd love to hear you loop with it. Nice pix, guys. This looks like it was wonderful gig. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 11:35:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 451603BE8E; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:35:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Dear Tim, Looking at the pix you guys put up (re: pix) your setup looks really cool, powerful and intriguing to me. Would you have time to explain to use what your rig is and how you use it? Also, I'm curious, (just because I'm auditioning lots of different scenarios for touring and playing festivals): How long does it take you to set this up and what does it all weigh approximately. If flown across the country (or to Europe, the UK, South/Central America or Asia) would you bring this rig , and if not, how would you pare it down? In fact, it would be great to hear from others what there touring rig consists of and what their 'play my hometown or withing shot of an automobile" rig would consist of. There it is: the theme of this thread (finally..... X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C58D03BE84; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=f+9uWW9hYCLkldyNuLeqTzr8zmg54lq9ATofpXj0eUI=; b=LhVxyCl5JlGyPAgFLkGv6zCU+gnCUM0IecvPA46d6Vb24XJQFTfhb82C+4Ut3EatVD XkfzYzPZpO8UbVnnL+0uGDEzJs7inymF3Ndo2qbpq2TgcgfgqXbzMdC+ySJNDNaYxium aspM5SozSgnOtb6N2JgeAzFChDVYvYzuv5NEY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=VX9bH0Bg5UilmgFIu4cvda74UJWQ0hZe+fWrPeF7fclkatVhTNK1oELw1KuKs7L8MY jQ9W1ck4hCgqa80xKG+JdXLsQNWASnBejxHV3Z7Z8FvTRsMM6NTGedMSiUYbmXMpzu0H rqYthjnCzpVFVjuBygrObQZGl88aQUaI6f8KE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808180535h624184fbpdcbe9ed62b8dd224@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:35:04 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? In-Reply-To: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Interesting poll! I'm looking forward to hear about other player's strategies. My gig/touring setup does differ from my home (rehearsal) setup only in one aspect: I bring less instruments. As for the electronics I loop and mangle with it's exactly the same. The physical instruments tend to not go with me for gigs if they are too big, too heavy or too slow to set up at the stage of any particular gig. For example, using guitar at a busy outdoor venue has a low priority because there will be difficult to keep your hands clean. And also, for playing guitar you really need to keep your body relaxed and in balance. It will ruin the music to play guitar with hands shaking after hauling heavy and dirty gear. A lose-lose situation I avoid. Smaller instrument tend to go out more often. Here's a listing of my instrument's frequency of gigging: Alto Flute, EWI, Tibetan Singing Bowl, Tenor Sax, Fretless Sustainiac Guitar, Stratocaster, Acoustic Guitar. The favorite small setup of mine is Alto Flute + EWI. The EWI is both a synth and a MIDI controller which makes it double as many instrument in one physical shape, thanks to a bunch of virtual synths and samplers in the laptop that also hosts the loopers. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Dear Tim, > > Looking at the pix you guys put up (re: pix) > > your setup looks really cool, powerful and intriguing to me. > > > Would you have time to explain to use what your rig is and how you use it? > > > Also, I'm curious, (just because I'm auditioning lots of different > scenarios > for touring and playing festivals): > > How long does it take you to set this up and what does it all weigh > approximately. > > > If flown across the country (or to Europe, the UK, South/Central America or > Asia) > would you bring this rig , and if not, how would you pare it down? > > > > > > > In fact, it would be great to hear from others what there touring rig > consists of > and what their 'play my hometown or withing shot of an automobile" rig would > consist of. > > > > There it is: the theme of this thread (finally..... > > > WHAT'S YOUR TOURING RIG LIKE and how does it differ > from your AT HOME RIG? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 13:08:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 117083BE80; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:08:10 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:08:12 +0000 (UTC) > Rick wrote: > In fact, it would be great to hear from others what there touring rig = > consists of > and what their 'play my hometown or withing shot of an automobile" rig = would > consist of. I'm only doing local gigs now, but I have the intension to do a few gigs = abroad next year so this is an interesting topic Rick. Taking a 100kg set= up on a plane is simply not an option ;) Besides that, what power issues = do you have to think of (Europe vs US)? --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 13:22:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 083643BE93; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jS11Jq4nStEA:10 a=1lgCJlSg6agA:10 a=twOz02V5ZzoVq5hi0nsA:9 a=Qu3SUqZpcGy6hBxDiVQdZU4A_KMA:4 a=9OHTkwyHC8cA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3DAB0742-AF5F-4E11-AAAA-83A6FA82A2B9@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:22:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Designed with both very much in mind. Godin Spectrum to Axon AX50, Motu Ultralite. Mac PB running Live, Sooperlooper, Many Audio Damage AU's, Stylus, etc. Controlled via FCB1010 and Novation Nocturn. Directly to either the house pa, or Mackie SRM350's. Small, Loud and ridiculously flexible and powerful. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 14:01:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF4063BE81; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=A4F/Do+mvko23lkJLiDFjnpDkQLubTX+LDw/DV7FMsI=; b=nZRzZvuDv0pLGjya6DmUabTCBg0SYdEf1tlRKnKJ/rLXOgovLhy7xBpoEy3bfa9TOP ZP5OAfxfdV+FlC33s9YGP3IQCizsAau/tewhPG46FyLOCiu7fOvvcY6TT13WvMuYWkmn nMkYAvTjIGjF08A2CfDe3XG+MvG0WTdw9dNaM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=KMGvs8GZOxoy2ePvMKGMJxwrj7GxEYv1nkQUQG5TZE+eRv4SrWdBrhv3CCFZzqKSp9 yQosgifhiWMBm5nEhrJwOt4oloSUoI2qS6gRZtbLckiNvJ0a9xHtPXKbNI0QSGlC4Srp BhBW5DIwqjXqYGfTCcevrKQhHzgd102sJhY30= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808180701w69b2cd07r8e7888064e3717c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:01:21 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:01:22 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Besides that, what power issues do you have to think of (Europe vs US)? 220 volt in Europe and 110 volt in US. But that's just part one of the issue: If using a transformer, make sure the delivered current (measured in "watt") is enough to support the total "watt consumption" of all gear you plan to run of that transformer. If using gear that work on both 110 and 220, check out if you need to change a fuse inside the devise to meet the new power voltage (crucial for bringing a Behringer FCB, for example). -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 14:52:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 362D73BE86; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:51:59 EDT Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c80.33b3c90c.35dae68f_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:52:05 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c80.33b3c90c.35dae68f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes!.....touring rig:.....guitar > ineko > boomerang > ineko > fender champ or p.a., maybe another little alesis box or 2.....BIG ROOM RIG:.....guitar (buckers) >zoom 2100 > digi. space station > bitrman 1 > mackie 1202.....piezo (the guitar has 2 outs) > bitrman 2 > 1202.....1 mic for glockenspiel, 1 mic for vocals, bamboo flutes etc > 1202.....casio cz-5000 > alesis FAZE > 1202.....send 1 on 1202 > eletrix: mo fx > filter factory > warp factory > ineko 1 > boomerang > ineko 2 >1202.....send 2: vortex (thank you stanno!) > alesis Q2.....then all out to srm 450s (2).....it's taken awhile to arrive at this set-up and i am quite pleased with it but if you see anyway to improve on the signal paths please let me know!.....i spend an inordanent amount of time "thinking" about this.....of course the downside of the BRR is weight, the powerstrips, cables and alesis boxes alone weigh a lot and try finding a car that allows you to fit in the weird shaped gator rack, no way in the trunk and it's a battle to get it in the front seat.....now i know many folk will say "i just take an instrument and a computer".....i hate you!.....:).....perhaps that day will come for this old luditte and then i will play out more if i can find more lovers of boops and beeps.....m "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) --part1_c80.33b3c90c.35dae68f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes!.....touring rig:.....guitar > i= neko > boomerang > ineko > fender champ or p.a., maybe another litt= le alesis box or 2.....BIG ROOM RIG:.....guitar (buckers) >zoom 2100 >= digi. space station > bitrman 1 > mackie 1202.....piezo (the guitar h= as 2 outs) > bitrman 2 > 1202.....1 mic for glockenspiel, 1 mic for vo= cals, bamboo flutes etc > 1202.....casio cz-5000 > alesis FAZE > 12= 02.....send 1 on 1202 > eletrix: mo fx > filter factory > warp fact= ory > ineko 1 > boomerang > ineko 2 >1202.....send 2: vortex (th= ank you stanno!) > alesis Q2.....then all out to srm 450s (2).....it's ta= ken awhile to arrive at this set-up and i am quite pleased with it but if yo= u see anyway to improve on the signal paths please let me know!.....i spend=20= an inordanent amount of time "thinking" about this.....of course the downsid= e of the BRR is weight, the powerstrips, cables and alesis boxes alone weigh= a lot and try finding a car that allows you to fit in the weird shaped gato= r rack, no way in the trunk and it's a battle to get it in the front seat...= ..now i know many folk will say "i just take an instrument and a computer"..= ...i hate you!.....:).....perhaps that day will come for this old luditte an= d then i will play out more if i can find more lovers of boops and beeps....= .m

    "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY

    new groovy tunes at:
    http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
    www.ct-collective.com





    **************
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    (http://autos.= aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=3Daolaut00030000000007= ) --part1_c80.33b3c90c.35dae68f_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 15:12:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 276DD3BE8C; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48A99142.4090008@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:12:02 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:12:05 +0000 (UTC) It was such a treat to hear you work that big rig, Michael. When the next East Coast fest happens, even if it's not in Pitt I hope we can find a way for you to get this stuff there. My rig is the same, I just carry the same two cassette decks, though I now have a couple punch-in pedals scattered in safe houses as they're heavy for their size. Last year for Y2k, I went for convenience and used a different Tascam and a new Dictaphone, and found it very frustrating not to have the same setup I've spent so many hours getting to know. On my summer tour, I cut way back on clothing and just did laundry every week, saving suitcase space for gear. Even so, inevitability one accumulates crap on the road, so for flights I'd take a really large laptop bag plus the Traveler and a small box as carry-ons. I put all the heaviest things (cables, pedals, etc) in these carry-ons, since there's no weight check and my suitcase was maxed out. I think it's key to make use of the travel-on allowance. I'm using the little Traveler guitar for live work now, and thus am now using it from home for Ninjam sessions, just so I can depend on knowing the same setup wherever I'm playing. For me, anyway, I need to have the same deal. So if I make any future additions to my home rig, I'll be planning to have it be portable. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > yes!.....touring rig:.....guitar > ineko > boomerang > ineko > fender > champ or p.a., maybe another little alesis box or 2.....BIG ROOM > RIG:.....guitar (buckers) >zoom 2100 > digi. space station > bitrman 1 > > mackie 1202.....piezo (the guitar has 2 outs) > bitrman 2 > > 1202.....1 mic for glockenspiel, 1 mic for vocals, bamboo flutes etc > > 1202.....casio cz-5000 > alesis FAZE > 1202.....send 1 on 1202 > > eletrix: mo fx > filter factory > warp factory > ineko 1 > boomerang > > ineko 2 >1202.....send 2: vortex (thank you stanno!) > alesis > Q2.....then all out to srm 450s (2).....it's taken awhile to arrive at > this set-up From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 15:35:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0832E3BE91; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=V1VSf7HpPCW7z8ZfNwsGEQmPZMXMBayHLDAMejdvr5M1yBmkBarQKkjS4w5qoc5vug/XZSOINxlggZ6fbcOQcQOUaOdZsxOsINOCeZvsMKD9z/bokxPPJXS3OmlRdnDf; Message-ID: <20080818103511.8e5hp6f10kogwcog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:35:11 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: <6O4nzB.A.UyD.4aZqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:35:20 +0000 (UTC) My "home rig" is a hardware-based electronic music studio -- much too =20 big and heavy to transport. Also, I have equipment that isn't needed =20 on the road. On stage I only have my laptop, an RME800 interface, and my theremin. =20 I can have this setup in 16 minutes (yep, I've timed it to the =20 minute). I think I can knock some time off of the setup by =20 re-organizing my pitch-preview amp and cables (these cables are thin =20 and tend to tangle easily). In most cases, setup time (rather than =20 size and weight) is the main constraint. ... the rest of this email are some ramblings... I prefer to play through my own PA (5 SRM450s and 2 SWA1501s) however =20 that is not always possible. The downside to using my own PA is the =20 transport difficulty (won't fit into my car so I have to borrow my =20 parents' van). Surprizingly, to setup my PA only adds about 15 =20 minutes to the total setup time. I've had good luck when playing =20 through provided systems, though. The sound techs that I've worked =20 with have all been helpful and that makes a big difference. I just returned from the electro-music festival (this year held in =20 Kingsport, TN). I used my own system (and everyone else used it =20 too!). I was the only one who used it in a surround configuration. I =20 discovered that when the rear speakers are relatively distant, that I =20 can't hear them at all from the stage! I managed to get through the =20 set but was a bit stressful. Today I ordered a SRM350 (on sale at MF) =20 to use as a wedge monitor on stage. My laptop-based looping is all automated/composed. Last Friday I =20 participated in a collaboration and used my RC50 for on-the-fly =20 looping. As such, I was able to create drones and pads with the =20 theremin -- and left the melodic playing to the other musicians: one =20 on acoustic bass, the other on wooden ("primative") flutes. The =20 looping enabled me to use the theremin: a melodic, monophonic =20 instrument -- as a chordal accompianment instrument. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 15:44:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EE623BE99; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_6843184731041674 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:44:42 -0500 Subject: Re: FlyLoops update / Xponent MIDI controller From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:44:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_6843184731041674 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0AHmmmm ...yeah maybe thats it.=0D=0A=0D=0AThanks for the heads u= p ... I wonder what caused it to end up in the trash by default?=0D=0A=0D= =0AEither way, I know this is a pretty mac heavy list too ..... so I imagin= e a lot of people can't try it anyway ..... but who knows. =0D=0A=0D=0AWhat= feedback I have recieved has been nice to get, so thanks to those of you t= hat have been able to give this a try.=0D=0A=0D=0AOn a related topic ......= I just got an M-audio Xponent and was wondering if anyone else uses this p= iece of hardware ...... ? It's one of the first midi turntable emulators t= o hit the market ..... there is a big push for "digital" DJing nowadays. I= doubt there are many enthusiasts on this list ...... but who knows. I use= it for loop scratching of course, and am not sure how I feel about the sof= tware that comes with it ..... (Torq) ... it seems a little half baked.=0D= =0A=0D=0Aas per the controller itself though, I have found it to be an awes= ome MIDI controller ....... I especially like the XY midi pad that doubles = as a computer mousepad ..... it's one of those things that someone who shou= ld have thought of a long time ago.=0D=0A=0D=0Aanyway, happy looping=0D=0A= =0D=0AAaron=0D=0A=0D=0A----------------------------------------=0D=0AFrom: = "Tom Ritchford" =0D=0ASent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 1:21 PM= =0D=0ATo: aaronleese@flyloops.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: FlyLoops update =0D=0A= =0D=0ASorry you aren't getting responses. I actually just found this email= in my Spam folder, perhaps that's it? But I don't have a PC anyway, so I = can't check it out...=0D=0A=0D=0AOn Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM, aaronleese= @flyloops.com wrote:=0D=0A=0D=0AI get about 100 d= ownloads now a month, but still no feedback from the folks on this group ..= ... weird that people don't seem more interested .... I would have thought = this would be ground zero for new looping device commentary ...... =0D=0A= =0D=0Aanyway, here's an update and maybe this time I can get some comments = .....=0D=0A=0D=0AI just put the finishing touches on midi learn and bundled= a FCB1010 config which should load up as the default when you run the prog= ram.=0D=0A=0D=0ASo you can download, unzip, and loop immediately.=0D=0A=0D= =0AFlyLoops has five parallel loops each independently configurable and all= that.=0D=0A=0D=0AI've mentioned all the functions on here before, and they= are available on the website, so I won't bother with that again ...... the= big ones are real time loop turntablism, and frequency shifting that stays= in step with tempo by restarting with the master ...... project heartbeat,= I usually call that.=0D=0A=0D=0AOtherwise, stack, multiply, overwrite, fad= e .... all the usual stuff.=0D=0A=0D=0AVST compatibility coming soon. Mac = version after that. =0D=0ACurrently only windows, and only ASIO.=0D=0A=0D= =0Awww.flyloops.com/download.htm for the download =0D=0A=0D=0Awww.flyloops.= com for the specs and everything else.=0D=0A=0D=0Acomments, questions, anyo= ne ?=0D=0A=0D=0A----------------------------------------=0D=0AFrom: "Krispe= n Hartung" =0D=0A=0D=0ASent: Thursday, August 07, 20= 08 7:25 PM=0D=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: N= ew software looper =0D=0A=0D=0AThat's right. Aren't you a memeber of the Pa= ve the Earth Society yet? Let's =0D=0Aget it over with. Let the street swe= epers rule.=0D=0A=0D=0AKris=0D=0A=0D=0A----- Original Message ----- =0D=0A= =0D=0A> Yeah, fuck trees!=0D=0A=0D=0A> On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen= Hartung wrote:=0D=0A>=0D=0A>> Cool. And it was designed in max/msp. And op= en source! Whooh! I have to =0D=0A>> check this out. I think it was desi= gned by tree huggers, though. :)=0D=0A=0D=0A>>=0D=0A>>=0D=0A>> Kris=0D=0A>= >=0D=0A>> ----- Original Message -----=0D=0A>>=0D=0A>>> Looks interesting-= =0D=0A>>>=0D=0A>>> http://lividinstruments.com/software_looper.php=0D=0A=0D= =0A>>>=0D=0A>>> The live audio recording feature caught my eye, of course, = it depends =0D=0A>>> how well that works for "live" looping needs.=0D=0A>>= >=0D=0A>>> Best-=0D=0A>>>=0D=0A=0D=0A>>> Mark=0D=0A>>=0D=0A> =0D=0A=0D=0A--= =0D=0A /t=0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_6843184731041674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hmmmm ...yeah maybe thats it.

    Thanks for the heads up ... I = wonder what caused it to end up in the trash by default?

    Either way,= I know this is a pretty mac heavy list too ..... so I imagine a lot of peo= ple can't try it anyway ..... but who knows.

    What feedback I have r= ecieved has been nice to get, so thanks to those of you that have been able= to give this a try.

    On a related topic ...... I just got an M-audio= Xponent and was wondering if anyone else uses this piece of hardware .....= . ?  It's one of the first midi turntable emulators to hit the market = ..... there is a big push for "digital" DJing nowadays.  I doubt there= are many enthusiasts on this list ...... but who knows.  I use it for= loop scratching of course, and am not sure how I feel about the software t= hat comes with it ..... (Torq) ... it seems a little half baked.

    as = per the controller itself though, I have found it to be an awesome MIDI con= troller ....... I especially like the XY midi pad that doubles as a compute= r mousepad ..... it's one of those things that someone who should have thou= ght of a long time ago.

    anyway, happy looping

    Aaron


    From: "Tom Ritchford" <to= m@swirly.com>
    Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 1:21 PM<= br>To: aaronleese@flyloops.com
    Subject= : Re: FlyLoops update

    Sorry you aren't= getting responses.  I actually just found this email in my Spam folde= r, perhaps that's it?  But I don't have a PC anyway, so I can't check = it out...

    =0D=0A=0D=0AOn Fri, Aug = 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM, aaronleese@flyloops.com <aaronleese@flyloops.com> wrote:
    =0D=0A
    =0D=0A
    I get about 100 downloads now a month, but still no feedback= from the folks on this group ..... weird that people don't seem more inter= ested .... I would have thought this would be ground zero for new looping d= evice commentary ......
    =0D=0A=0D=0A
    anyway, here's an update and ma= ybe this time I can get some comments .....

    I just put the finishing= touches on midi learn and bundled a FCB1010 config which should load up as= the default when you run the program.
    =0D=0A=0D=0A
    So you can downlo= ad, unzip, and loop immediately.

    FlyLoops has five parallel loops ea= ch independently configurable and all that.

    I've mentioned all the f= unctions on here before, and they are available on the website, so I won't = bother with that again ...... the big ones are real time loop turntablism, = and frequency shifting that stays in step with tempo by restarting with the= master ...... project heartbeat, I usually call that.
    =0D=0A=0D=0A
    O= therwise, stack, multiply, overwrite, fade .... all the usual stuff.
    VST compatibility coming soon.  Mac version after that. 
    Cur= rently only windows, and only ASIO.
    =0D=0A
    www.flyloops.com/download.htm = for the download

    www.flyloops.com for the specs and everything else.
    =0D=0A=0D=0A=
    comments, questions, anyone ?









    From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
    =0D=0A=0D=0ASent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:25= PM
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re: New software looper
    =0D=0A=0D=0A
    That'= s right. Aren't you a memeber of the Pave the Earth Society yet? Let's get it over with. Let the street sweepers rule.

    Kris

    ----- O= riginal Message -----


    > Yeah, fuck trees!
    =0D=0A=0D=0A>= ; On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:
    >
    >> C= ool. And it was designed in max/msp. And open source! Whooh! I have to >> check this out. I think it was designed by tree huggers, thoug= h. :)
    =0D=0A=0D=0A>>
    >>
    >> Kris
    >>
    &= gt;> ----- Original Message -----
    >>
    >>> Looks inte= resting-
    >>>
    >>> http://lividinstruments.com/sof= tware_looper.php
    =0D=0A=0D=0A>>>
    >>> The live a= udio recording feature caught my eye, of course, it depends
    >>&g= t; how well that works for "live" looping needs.
    >>>
    >>= ;> Best-
    >>>
    =0D=0A=0D=0A>>> Mark
    >>>


    =0D=0A



    -- /t

    =0D=0A

    ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_6843184731041674-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 15:48:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 216D23BEA0; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:48:02 UTC Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [71.212.40.140] X-Originating-Email: [j.easley@msn.com] X-Sender: j.easley@msn.com From: "Joshua & Jennifer Easley" To: Subject: Echoplex DPP and stereo Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:43:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9010E.6D88C6A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2008 15:43:01.0839 (UTC) FILETIME=[18E0B5F0:01C90149] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:48:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9010E.6D88C6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all,=20 I'm new to the mailing list and this is my first post. I'd like to get = some ideas from other loopers about using the Echoplex in stereo. Perhaps I should say "stereo", since it's probably impossible to get = true stereo without using two of them. . . But I can't afford two Echoplexes (one was expensive enough)!=20 Surely there's a way to extract a stereo configuration from that one = mono output? My concern is to get a good, full sounding stereo image, = especially for studio work, and I'm prepared to invest in more gear if = need be. So far the results have been poopy. . . Have any of you tackled this dilemma? Any ideas would be most welcome. = Thanks, Joshua ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9010E.6D88C6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hello all,
     
    I'm new to the mailing list and this is my first = post. I'd=20 like to get some ideas from other loopers about using the Echoplex in=20 stereo.
     
    Perhaps I should say "stereo", since it's = probably=20 impossible to get true stereo without using two of them. . =
     
    But I can't afford two Echoplexes (one was = expensive=20 enough)! 
     
    Surely there's a way to extract = a stereo=20 configuration from that one mono output? My concern is to = get a=20 good, full sounding stereo image, especially for studio work, = and I'm=20 prepared to invest in more gear if need be. So far the results=20 have been poopy. . .
     
    Have any of you tackled this dilemma? Any = ideas would=20 be most welcome. Thanks,
     
     
    Joshua
    ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9010E.6D88C6A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 15:58:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B23AA3BE97; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+V9fK92IB88cdzmRbXQ8Nl4MPaDO1E8WDIx1Sxz8RDo=; b=SM+209XElKtt8qIiejimGY29MVy4AXGAA6KequjsVuzwmZFZ99oCdyn4A0WT7jwu/u iSF8MyeDAnG2TMnZw47lC3f59ikEqChXc4jLkSn6i4z5m9kgkUiTMWKF8zENTsBFqr0X G3lZCiiyeOmrZ4cplh0fYZ9xcfi2flLOrW1HE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=owo/Cyug3JmA/WMQuxAdGY5YwnW940c4OwQfYz2OuT7OLP55meQ3378SHBEnKaTrRt iyMo0RRRudcXyBCbXmlXipjXBmd0CQniMsQNroc9HeWbc+nIWDnYxFlKY0x9ifMBXNOs clrOBHXnZZY0nrujMLF6EKccbbCZ7nOZ6ccrc= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808180858k27e214fcn51e40b5c4d5fd416@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:58:35 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and stereo In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:58:36 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Joshua & Jennifer Easley wrote: > Surely there's a way to extract a stereo configuration from that > one mono output? My concern is to get a good, full sounding stereo > image, especially for studio work, and I'm prepared to invest in more gear > if need be. So far the results have been poopy. . . > > Have any of you tackled this dilemma? Any ideas would be most welcome. > Thanks, > > Joshua HI, For a while I used to put my EDP mono output signal through a filter bank that created a stereo signal. That was an awesome stereo sound, but I had to sell the filter bank in order to keep other gear and repair things that broke down. As for your setup, any stereo creating devise that you like can be used. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 16:53:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24A413BE87; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [71.212.40.140] X-Originating-Email: [j.easley@msn.com] X-Sender: j.easley@msn.com From: "Joshua & Jennifer Easley" To: References: <66f9cc1e0808180858k27e214fcn51e40b5c4d5fd416@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and stereo Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:53:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C90118.3C2A7C70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2008 16:53:18.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA27E940:01C90152] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:53:20 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C90118.3C2A7C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per, thanks for the reply. A "stereo creating device", and/or a creative = routing configuration, is exactly what I'm looking for. =20 Hmmm, I've never heard of a filter bank before. How did you change your = setup after you disposed of it?=20 --Joshua ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and stereo > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Joshua & Jennifer Easley > wrote: >=20 >> Surely there's a way to extract a stereo configuration from that >> one mono output? My concern is to get a good, full sounding stereo >> image, especially for studio work, and I'm prepared to invest in more = gear >> if need be. So far the results have been poopy. . . >> >> Have any of you tackled this dilemma? Any ideas would be most = welcome. >> Thanks, >> >> Joshua >=20 >=20 > HI, >=20 > For a while I used to put my EDP mono output signal through a filter > bank that created a stereo signal. That was an awesome stereo sound, > but I had to sell the filter bank in order to keep other gear and > repair things that broke down. As for your setup, any stereo creating > devise that you like can be used. >=20 > --=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C90118.3C2A7C70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Per, thanks for the reply. A "stereo = creating=20 device", and/or a creative routing configuration, is exactly = what I'm=20 looking for. 
     
    Hmmm, I've never heard of a filter bank before. = How did=20 you change your setup after you disposed of it?
     
    --Joshua
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
    To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:58 = AM
    Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and=20 stereo

    > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Joshua & Jennifer=20 Easley
    > <    j.easley@msn.com> = wrote:
    >=20
    >> Surely there's a way to extract a stereo configuration from = that
    >> one mono output? My concern is to get a good, full = sounding=20 stereo
    >> image, especially for studio work, and I'm prepared = to invest=20 in more gear
    >> if need be. So far the results have been poopy. = =20
    >>
    >> Have any of you tackled this dilemma? Any = ideas would=20 be most welcome.
    >> Thanks,
    >>
    >> = Joshua
    >=20
    >
    > HI,
    >
    > For a while I used to put my EDP = mono=20 output signal through a filter
    > bank that created a stereo = signal. That=20 was an awesome stereo sound,
    > but I had to sell the filter bank = in order=20 to keep other gear and
    > repair things that broke down. As for = your setup,=20 any stereo creating
    > devise that you like can be used.
    > =
    >=20 --
    > Greetings from Sweden
    >
    > Per Boysen
    > =     www.boysen.se = (Swedish)
    >=20     www.looproom.com=20 (international)
    >     www.myspace.com/perboysen
    > www.stockholm-athens.com
    >=20
    >     ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C90118.3C2A7C70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 17:11:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33AF93BE91; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=EC84ZyXMsD3w02v88olyEkpaG94CI87O3BtwW7dqMWM=; b=pddtGQNPsOjGDYrcamjxYNllJFeCByzi9sjFuDjniUSW4GgnPxdklTset+SQLuTIvi Sb3sZrb4HO5D4Dly2/Rzr7PhHIjUnIDO4l5Pe28USawPE6UaFMdCzRyqUQsgIpMwymam D0nKzplG+uJkMiwKJVuQX5DpeeqFGI0bSZj/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=tlKbetU11jjmUu1UTucZM7D7+crzvDhQMCH5QBXWfyFZked+oFx8+exEi4ChvXVjo6 8m80Pd7YIBm8UNzeahGCc+vZSyuRYQG+8KEv1MtZ4OSzF3qwQSd2Xf2gXYDlQi8j3XFk 5JU4X0dDm7SwOcreY1EgIi+0E3bFYCOvMyEMM= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808181011s12222f66u6d5d006efeefcab4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:11:19 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and stereo In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808180858k27e214fcn51e40b5c4d5fd416@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:11:22 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Joshua & Jennifer Easley wrote: > Per, thanks for the reply. A "stereo creating device", and/or a > creative routing configuration, is exactly what I'm looking for. > > Hmmm, I've never heard of a filter bank before. Here's the one I had: www.vintagesynth.com/akai/mfc42.shtml > How did you change your > setup after you disposed of it? I assembled all parts as software and put it all inside a laptop where I also do the signal routing for my sound. I went from this rack: http://www.looproom.com/bilder/looping_rack.gif ...to this: http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 17:34:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3B5D3BE94; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=wT7PRu0H+oecb9FBtSRPrVaUiGd2oDQei1CGTTmJX/4=; b=FuA7Q/vY2Zy/1nIrQ3TvvkX9KEk9p88vfMpvqQvJSxra3oQ5qCIB2VYadJqheTtWpU WfOozsQGBJZcFp39TJqbn6ltpczTLyeACp8wcG5Y6JzDtI56D5uJF9x4X8Va3fjlQTL1 kqQxdQQspve/zQ1vD3VIAUSbN7kwBtFo9uU5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Zf+9D7l2HHKE1o++vTWHWVrnUHqFz9Z8LFYQa8eKyHcaasC2Oyjl9tgB7ir8OrwNGa TdA2+qOh/AlXHYqoRVoS9LttM4q+89Z9KaHdx/tB/jh3tfmbRQzFbT/Fq3c0JXuvMRW4 e5TA0Do2iunxyH5WdZ+wvh/gpezQUBJOJM02g= Message-ID: <4759e5740808181034u3f96b4dcp30d6f2f1f8006386@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:34:50 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and stereo In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808181011s12222f66u6d5d006efeefcab4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_126056_15468592.1219080890595" References: <66f9cc1e0808180858k27e214fcn51e40b5c4d5fd416@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808181011s12222f66u6d5d006efeefcab4@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:34:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_126056_15468592.1219080890595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm just about to pull the trigger on this faderfox box, Per, it's just so very expensive. I'm thinking from the description, that the LX2 micromodul is what really takes care of all of these 'focus' problems with live as far as visual feedback goes. My chief difficulty when playing is not being able to focus on clips or effects or tracks at will, without so many extra button pushes... If you have just a moment, can you describe some of the ways the second module really impacts you? thanks so much, Todd On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Joshua & Jennifer Easley > wrote: > > Per, thanks for the reply. A "stereo creating device", and/or a > > creative routing configuration, is exactly what I'm looking for. > > > > Hmmm, I've never heard of a filter bank before. > > Here's the one I had: > www.vintagesynth.com/akai/mfc42.shtml > > > How did you change your > > setup after you disposed of it? > > I assembled all parts as software and put it all inside a laptop where > I also do the signal routing for my sound. I went from this rack: > > http://www.looproom.com/bilder/looping_rack.gif > > ...to this: > http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_126056_15468592.1219080890595 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I'm just about to pull the trigger on this faderfox box, Per, it's just so very expensive.

    I'm thinking from the description, that the LX2 micromodul is what really takes care of all of these 'focus' problems with live as far as visual feedback goes.  My chief difficulty when playing is not being able to focus on clips or effects or tracks at will, without so many extra button pushes...  If you have just a moment, can you describe some of the ways the second module really impacts you?

    thanks so much,  Todd

    On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Joshua & Jennifer Easley
    <j.easley@msn.com> wrote:
    > Per, thanks for the reply. A "stereo creating device", and/or a
    > creative routing configuration, is exactly what I'm looking for.
    >
    > Hmmm, I've never heard of a filter bank before.

    Here's the one I had:
    www.vintagesynth.com/akai/mfc42.shtml

    > How did you change your
    > setup after you disposed of it?

    I assembled all parts as software and put it all inside a laptop where
    I also do the signal routing for  my sound. I went from this rack:

    http://www.looproom.com/bilder/looping_rack.gif

    ...to this:
    http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg

    --
    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)
    www.myspace.com/perboysen
    www.stockholm-athens.com




    --
    September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th.

    http://blog.toddreynolds.com
    http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic

    ------=_Part_126056_15468592.1219080890595-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 17:43:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 102D03BE91; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <018801c90159$d443f3b0$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <66f9cc1e0808180858k27e214fcn51e40b5c4d5fd416@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and stereo Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:42:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:42:59 +0000 (UTC) > Per, thanks for the reply. A "stereo creating device", and/or a creative > routing configuration, is exactly what I'm looking for. On the simpler end of things, have you looked into something like a Lexicon MX200 that could give you a stereo delay or stereo reverb? Adding a delay to one channel can give you an additional depth that you don't have with a straight mono signal. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 18:40:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECAA43BE91; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:40:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=r9qRX6q7j1e4BcbMSSjegKEG1iPbIrH+CYIiqYwYbspTq+ZcQB8MTNePRBwUX8z68X76jCU02G3roY+RkOwRK29dn+K7SMG6EYs080EEfKS41tIkCsU4JBZdXKgmdBMLSCsNJFosYua4OnNBhxkXXLBlmt6zyKZyQxQObPA/FX4=; X-YMail-OSG: Jk1VYhEVM1nit3Tk._r0XCxyJTD.77ELQ4y_FSw5R6ankNVs.__ThRoup1bJpC_IUdRBYWOiVonBgf1dIpMUTEnQd.ZUPP_z8E3YCrBWw0Ks1Ju3yy.rOQpZ64mq75kr2Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:40:11 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: new/cool USB footcontrollers? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00cc01c900fd$6273c550$0692a8c0@voo.intra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <765668.54476.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:40:13 +0000 (UTC) I saw on LD a month or two ago a very cool new USB foot controller. I had never seen it before. It was entirely powered by the USB bus, and fed MIDI data to the computer via USB. I searched LD archives for it, but unfortunately, keywords like "USB Powered Foot Controller" yield many, many results. And unfortnately it wasn't on the LD "tools of the trade" list. Does anyone know which one I'm talking about? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 19:07:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 272283BE97; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1559 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:07:53 UTC In-Reply-To: <00cc01c900fd$6273c550$0692a8c0@voo.intra> References: <00cc01c900fd$6273c550$0692a8c0@voo.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4EDFAE6A-51FF-46AB-9CCD-1714D5AB7F9E@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Japan loopers? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:41:49 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Hey kids, Going to Japan from the 1st to the 15th of last month and I'm wondering if any of ya'll hail from that Island and could point me to a cool music performance or show of some sort. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 19:30:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6096B3BE86; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=s+U6t7NXgMMO8fBO3e8AERYnV/XfIvWtk1FbEqdUZmo=; b=e1HM242aqpslCjR7ghD393XYtHle0UgKersiSIjnmdGHZMA+1FJTsgQWf5lsO4QooF jJYdDsMZpgd9rf1o7qmpq9FD221GyJRs4BX3bnxmf3SrN4w4Szb8zFfIdOBpdhTX+J2D vTKNEgMDORdGk1uunXpjEhKs1OVjccbelseB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=PBH5VDmMajQDcLyma+cyp8eLwFZB+PupPC18NkAbtIVo9Gcf8oz4Bh0MXI+yVkpGgC B4N4DKLklvL9/spE5jWjPlpdw80bl1Tzxy05Ndf+Cr2HblHB/mQ2M1upbZltpIdVNw2s nXQbmduM4zVmHoKXjRAIU5dB34AMjeKvDSfg0= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808181230h445d7f8i28dd8b61a35babe9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:30:20 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: pix In-Reply-To: <010001c90125$b24d2df0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31427_28656470.1219087820470" References: <010001c90125$b24d2df0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: <8XT_p.A.TnE.O3cqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:30:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_31427_28656470.1219087820470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Rick thanks so much. It's becoming a bit of my standard instrument fare (the oud) and I've been rather jazzed about it the last few months so yes re using it at Y2K. I may take you up on a loan though I'm flying with it this week to Santa Fe and will see how it goes re the airlines being friendly to it. Most of my experiences thusfar traveling with instruments has been better than not. Coming back from CA last Oct Jet Blue was amazingly accomodating out of Sacramento. They let me on the cabin with all three instruments which prior to that I was being allowed one and checking the other two naturally. In theory the oud is pretty portable and I think will fit overhead but the bowl back may be bigger than I think. For the recent Boston show I took a Chinatown bus out of NY to Boston and got on with my guitar/manolin/oud/gig bag/box of CD's and a bottle of wine [see note below] and such to say don't think the passengers and bus operator were overjoyed to see me. The whole trip I cradled the oud in my lap and chest as a new baby. My journey to the oud began two years ago when I decided to explore fretless and found my present fretless guitar on eBay, an Adamas lookalike with steel strings. Over these two years I've been a bit of a mix of a 'kid in a fretless candy store' and a bit of similar to you re just digging exploring other instruments. In the last year from an initial fathers day gift a year ago I got equally jazzed with the violin and gained some ground while strangling the cat as they say. Last winter on a lark and maybe it was calling me as it appears I started looking for lower-end ouds (my norm budget) and found this one https://www.neweratreasures.com/index.asp?page=Products&item=104 For the money $238 it's been pretty solid. It's Turkish style which is slightly 'thinner' top to the Arabic style and I'm using one of several 'Turkish' tunings, low to high strings EABEAD. Re looping with it though still my playing is more non-looped than looped I recently got another new toy that brings me closer to this community, an EHX 2880 which I just began to scratch the surface on the recent Chinapainting shows so by Y2K time yes there should be some oud looping among other things from me. Thanks to the encouragement of Jeff Duke on selecting this box. I'll have a video up of Daryl, me, Tim, Dennis and Rob Byrd from our closing collab of the recent Nave show in Boston hopefully in the next day or two and others from that night to come. It was truely a mini-east fest and was a great night musicially. Attendance could have been better but that's always the case and as someone suggested to me the next day when I commented on that that in the end it's sometimes better to perform for a few than a crowd as it's a more connected experience both listener and performer. Regardless the neatest part of the evening was it was as Daryl and I experienced a year ago this time, musicians who had known each other electronically and comign together to meet in person and perform music together. Was a moving night. Lastly and OT here but for any list members who are wine lovers I've recently begun representing a friend of mine who is a small lot northern California maker and doing some marvelous creations of reds. He's in Lodi near Sacramento. Learn more about his winemaking, M2 Wines at www.m2wines.com. Chinapainting played a tasting at his winery last October and we are booked again this coming trip on Sat., Oct. 18th. Look fwd to seeing you in October and thanks re the oud offer as well as inviting us back to Y2K. Jim On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Oooooh, oooooh, oooooh, ooooooh, > Are you going to bring your Oud to the Y2K8 Festival, Jim? > > I have one you can borrow if you want, with a really good Shertler pickup > you can borrow as well if transporting that delicate thing is tough. > > I'd love to hear you loop with it. > > > Nice pix, guys. > > This looks like it was wonderful gig. > > Rick > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_31427_28656470.1219087820470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
    Rick thanks so much.  It's becoming a bit of= my standard instrument fare (the oud) and I've been rather jazzed= about it the last few months so yes re using it at Y2K.  I may take y= ou up on a loan though I'm flying with it this week to Santa Fe and wil= l see how it goes re the airlines being friendly to it.  Most of my ex= periences thusfar traveling with instruments has been better than not. = ; Coming back from CA last Oct Jet Blue was amazingly accomodating out of S= acramento.  They let me on the cabin with all three instruments which = prior to that I was being allowed one and checking the other two naturally.=   In theory the oud is pretty portable and I think will fit = overhead but the bowl back may be bigger than I think.  For the r= ecent Boston show I took a Chinatown bus out of NY to Boston and got on wit= h my guitar/manolin/oud/gig bag/box of CD's and a bottle of wine [see n= ote below] and such to say don't think the passengers and bus operator = were overjoyed to see me.  The whole trip I cradled the oud in my lap = and chest as a new baby.
     
    My journey to the oud began two years ago when I decided to explore fr= etless and found my present fretless guitar on eBay, an Adamas lookali= ke with steel strings.  Over these two years I've been a bit = of a mix of a 'kid in a fretless candy store' and a bit of similar = to you re just digging exploring other instruments.  In the last year = from an initial fathers day gift a year ago I got equally jazzed with the v= iolin and gained some ground while strangling the cat as they say.  La= st winter on a lark and maybe it was calling me as it appears I started loo= king for lower-end ouds (my norm budget) and found this one = https://www.neweratreasures.com/index.asp?page=3DProducts&item=3D104  For the money $238 it's been pretty solid.  It's Turki= sh style which is slightly 'thinner' top to the Arabic style a= nd I'm using one of several 'Turkish' tunings, low to high= strings EABEAD.  
     
    Re looping with it though still my playing is more non-looped tha= n looped I recently got another new toy that brings me closer to this commu= nity, an EHX 2880 which I just began to scratch the surface on the recent C= hinapainting shows so by Y2K time yes there should be some oud looping= among other things from me.  Thanks to the encouragement of Jeff Duke= on selecting this box.
     
    I'll have a video up of Daryl, me, Tim, Dennis and Rob Byrd from o= ur closing collab of the recent Nave show in Boston hopefully in the next d= ay or two and others from that night to come.  It was truely a mini-ea= st fest and was a great night musicially.  Attendance could have been = better but that's always the case and as someone suggested to me the ne= xt day when I commented on that that in the end it's sometimes better t= o perform for a few than a crowd as it's a more connected experience bo= th listener and performer.  Regardless the neatest part of the evening= was it was as Daryl and I experienced a year ago this time, musicians who = had known each other electronically and comign together to meet in person a= nd perform music together.  Was a moving night.
     
     
    Look fwd to seeing you in October and thanks re the oud offer as well = as inviting us back to Y2K.
     
    Jim 

    On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.c= om> wrote:
    Oooooh, oooooh, oooooh,  oo= ooooh,
    Are you going to bring your Oud to the Y2K8 Festival,  Jim?=

    I have one you can borrow if you want, with a really good Shertler = pickup you can borrow as well if transporting that delicate thing is tough.=

    I'd love to hear you loop with it.


    Nice pix,  guys.=

    This looks like it was wonderful gig.
    <= br>Rick




    --
    T= he Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    MySpace (solo) - http://w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    Chinapainting -
    http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    Chinapa= inting on My Space -
    http://www.myspac= e.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
    The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 oth= er creative souls - http://www.= woodandwiremusic.com
    Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://= www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by M= el Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.me= lbay.com
    ------=_Part_31427_28656470.1219087820470-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 19:35:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E04A3BE86; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [71.212.40.140] X-Originating-Email: [j.easley@msn.com] X-Sender: j.easley@msn.com From: "Joshua & Jennifer Easley" To: References: <66f9cc1e0808180858k27e214fcn51e40b5c4d5fd416@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808181011s12222f66u6d5d006efeefcab4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and stereo Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:35:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C9012E.F521DB90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2008 19:35:56.0061 (UTC) FILETIME=[A229C4D0:01C90169] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:35:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C9012E.F521DB90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Love that machine! Are analog filter banks outmoded now? Funny, one of your pictures looked very familiar, not sure at first why. = Then I realized I had visited your webpage earlier this morning. = looproom.com came up on the first page of a google search! It's a small = internet world. . . --Joshua =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and stereo > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Joshua & Jennifer Easley > wrote: >> Per, thanks for the reply. A "stereo creating device", and/or a >> creative routing configuration, is exactly what I'm looking for. >> >> Hmmm, I've never heard of a filter bank before. >=20 > Here's the one I had: > www.vintagesynth.com/akai/mfc42.shtml >=20 >> How did you change your >> setup after you disposed of it? >=20 > I assembled all parts as software and put it all inside a laptop where > I also do the signal routing for my sound. I went from this rack: >=20 > http://www.looproom.com/bilder/looping_rack.gif >=20 > ...to this: > http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg >=20 > --=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C9012E.F521DB90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Love that machine! Are analog filter=20 banks outmoded now?
     
    Funny, one of your pictures looked very = familiar, not=20 sure at first why. Then I realized I had visited your webpage earlier = this=20 morning. looproom.com came up on the first page of a google = search!=20 It's a small internet world. . =
     
     
    --Joshua
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
    To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:11 = AM
    Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and=20 stereo

    > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Joshua & Jennifer=20 Easley
    > <    j.easley@msn.com>=20 wrote:
    >> Per, thanks for the reply. A "stereo creating = device", and/or=20 a
    >> creative routing configuration, is exactly what I'm = looking=20 for.
    >>
    >> Hmmm, I've never heard of a filter bank=20 before.
    >
    > Here's the one I had:
    >     www.vintagesynth.com/akai/mfc42.shtml
    >
    >> How did you change your
    >> setup = after you=20 disposed of it?
    >
    > I assembled all parts as software and = put it=20 all inside a laptop where
    > I also do the signal routing for  = my=20 sound. I went from this rack:
    >
    >     http://www.looproom.com/bilder/looping_rack.gif
    >
    > ...to this:
    > http://www.looproom.com/bilder/fadermob.jpg
    >
    > --
    > Greetings from = Sweden
    >=20
    > Per Boysen
    >     www.boysen.se=20 (Swedish)
    >     www.looproom.com=20 (international)
    >     www.myspace.com/perboysen
    > www.stockholm-athens.com
    >=20
    >     ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C9012E.F521DB90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 19:37:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BB0A3BEB2; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=jjKJgDgaEsKk4dbjDAbOo4jx46GOPuK2LIK0uQRlnqTg5vVCfOLdJ9WTTKflzyTFMmmG//fQaCD/3+0+2Yo5/MjZ0j5h3wvb84IzQDKKp84rtJkXCe4FCA0YF5dwwRMuAb4PsrRMs21rqVnh40847fZt9dd/z1ZIHN15xct6oKg=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:37:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808180535h624184fbpdcbe9ed62b8dd224@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <464450.63228.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:37:53 +0000 (UTC) HOME:(6 space rack) 16 CH mixer 2 EDPs Boss GT Pro preamp Electrixpro MO-FX Roland GR-33 4 stompboxes FCB1010 Fender roland ready Strat acoustic guitar cajon hand percussion instruments sure sm58 TOURING:(2 space rack) Rolls Rack mixer 1 EDP eventide delay acustic guitar cajon sure sm58 (if traveling by train i drop the cajon) cheerios Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 19:42:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF8163BEA2; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [71.212.40.140] X-Originating-Email: [j.easley@msn.com] X-Sender: j.easley@msn.com From: "Joshua & Jennifer Easley" To: References: <66f9cc1e0808180858k27e214fcn51e40b5c4d5fd416@mail.gmail.com> <018801c90159$d443f3b0$5901a8c0@bobdell> Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and stereo Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:42:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C9012F.D00C7DA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2008 19:42:01.0787 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C2720B0:01C9016A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:42:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C9012F.D00C7DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob, thanks for that. I actually have an MX300 in my rack, so i can try = out what you suggested.=20 --Joshua ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Bob Amstadt" To: Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and stereo >=20 >> Per, thanks for the reply. A "stereo creating device", and/or a = creative=20 >> routing configuration, is exactly what I'm looking for. >=20 > On the simpler end of things, have you looked into something like a = Lexicon=20 > MX200 that could give you a stereo delay or stereo reverb? Adding a = delay=20 > to one channel can give you an additional depth that you don't have = with a=20 > straight mono signal.=20 >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C9012F.D00C7DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Bob, thanks for that. I actually have an MX300 = in my rack,=20 so i can try out what you suggested.
     
    --Joshua
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Bob Amstadt" <bobld@amstadt.com>
    To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:42 = AM
    Subject: Re: Echoplex DPP and=20 stereo

    >
    >> Per, thanks for the reply. A "stereo creating = device",=20 and/or a creative
    >> routing configuration, is exactly what = I'm=20 looking for.
    >
    > On the simpler end of things, have you = looked into=20 something like a Lexicon
    > MX200 that could give you a stereo = delay or=20 stereo reverb?  Adding a delay
    > to one channel can give you = an=20 additional depth that you don't have with a
    > straight mono = signal.=20
    >
    >     ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C9012F.D00C7DA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 19:45:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA78B3BEA0; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=kr0wj5adzrrhKuGVQXGzcRELEv4BhfnTYx8w2mIteL4SsNxxN4EMXWEY1a9YVnc5RPHKXDIsGCRrNoNT2ltMeUsqArc6Zfs93eC0SwRppGE7Okacd7OQFs4yM9b7rcUlYmO/Ww8LiY3oV3w7igcSfudG6Lh/SmZIftUuTmDCzKc=; X-YMail-OSG: uNam5JoVM1lqm_THv70DGjSCjhwes8gXXt5eMbf8qYfySDUfycgK.3ZVOZoUHGWYX_iTHOc4B1n.0PJgkJffIsUnNZfy9Z2A_3e2q9aSQGxZ8W1mAF5cBi8rxqLAh6m51Wq29UqJ8GuO24CFtF1Sl6g- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:45:19 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <822101.37304.qm@web50306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Sean & Per, Thanks for the repsonses. The device I saw was not an audio io box, it was strictly a midi foot controller. If I recall, it was made by a smaller company that I had barely heard of. It was a brand new product and may not have been shipping yet. Crap, I should have bookmarked that page! -George --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Sean Echevarria wrote: > From: Sean Echevarria > Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? > To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:17 PM > This hasn't been discussed recently but it's the > only thing I'm aware > of that is USB powered - unfortunately not a product, the > hardware is DIY: > http://www.creepingfog.com/mTroll/ > > > Did a little more searching - maybe this is what you saw? > The Guitar > Rig 3 controller: > http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=rigcontrol3&L=1&nitr=1&l_src=guitarrig3&tsr_id=54530 > > > > At 2008.08.18 11:40 AM, George Ludwig wrote: > >I saw on LD a month or two ago a very cool new USB foot > controller. > >I had never seen it before. It was entirely powered by > the USB bus, > >and fed MIDI data to the computer via USB. > > > >I searched LD archives for it, but unfortunately, > keywords like "USB > >Powered Foot Controller" yield many, many results. > And unfortnately > >it wasn't on the LD "tools of the trade" > list. > > > >Does anyone know which one I'm talking about? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 19:54:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37AB43BEC5; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4498.208.97.187.133.1219089294.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FS: New Gibson Echoplex and foot pedal From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, analogue@hyperreal.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Title says it: Brand new Gibson Echoplex in original boxes with manual and new Echoplex foot controller. Both piece *mint* (NOS, still wrapped in plastic). Blackface, latest version, Full memory, latest OS. Asking $825 OBO plus shipping or pickup in Phila Pa. I can accept paypal if you pick up the fees otherwise USPS MO works fine. Quick painless sale for all preferred. If interested email me direct at legionhwp (at) Gmail (dot) com. Will be posting to 'net at large tomorrow. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 20:48:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D4E73BEA4; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jS11Jq4nStEA:10 a=1lgCJlSg6agA:10 a=g6Pal1NwjmeHumNrJl0A:9 a=q_wl0BPVoE_ZfKoo1qKnGPd_-ckA:4 a=pFkpf3-XcF4A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080818103511.8e5hp6f10kogwcog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <20080818103511.8e5hp6f10kogwcog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:48:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:48:52 +0000 (UTC) home rig and touring rig = same From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 20:54:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 291C33BEA2; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=DAS4sKOZnP/m2jOOO8D8v9EE75dGKizsl/g6z8431dfIBzsfG3mFCyL+E0mORQ9f; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <555454.1219092857138.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:54:16 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd480d889de1334d60726472ff09b9a24048f966978d6047df59350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.38 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:54:17 +0000 (UTC) only in girth. when i play out(nott often:-( :6 to 8 amps and cabs home and the Y2Ks: 1 or 2 amps and cabs s From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 21:02:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E29443BE95; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_xlbHa6pSW2C8Y7UqhkA:9 a=neyLq5zS15WzJXNjqNgA:7 a=A6uSiLjL4lrSyoygn3jFfcDsWIQA:4 a=2rNWSI-filEA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080818103511.8e5hp6f10kogwcog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <20080818103511.8e5hp6f10kogwcog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <262649E8-B618-4316-95ED-4B5FA8FE2909@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: flattery Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:02:09 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:02:11 +0000 (UTC) by the way, it was very flattering back there in the stream to be thought of as "internationally renowned". but its not really true because its just me here in my tiny studio in the middle of a redwood forest. i work with famous people but i am not famous. also, although i was a professional musician before, loopfest was indeed my first loop performance. i had been mucking about with a boomerang pedal (loaned to me by the band tarentel, who i was working with) and an electrix repeater (loaned to me by dj vordo) during parties at our warehome when matt hooked me up with rick walker for y2k2 and then loopers-delight. i had no idea there was a whole community dedicated to it, i didn't know it was called looping, and i had never heard of robert fripp. so i guess ya'll are my base. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 21:03:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04C893BEC1; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Cdyx9YTXQYK0qJ8XalAA:9 a=2DVwmRn4st9ylqrIOPQA:7 a=JM1vaJhmTOUL8fQ4o6ltIlkN-s8A:4 a=NVHxADLwyewA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=f-ADshzQSboA:10 a=TZP-AmTHWe0sa-9oSZwA:9 a=jAb5SGDWg1qhUy1kCqEA:7 a=PzrjrVA86THRrFhHXhjiGYX8FGAA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <392D5BB7-6D54-4094-AAA7-4B390255A44A@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19-268024394 References: <262649E8-B618-4316-95ED-4B5FA8FE2909@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Fwd: flattery Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:03:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:03:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19-268024394 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed sorry matt = matt davignon Begin forwarded message: > From: info at zoekeating > Date: August 18, 2008 2:02:09 PM PDT > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: flattery > > by the way, it was very flattering back there in the stream to be > thought of as "internationally renowned". but its not really true > because its just me here in my tiny studio in the middle of a > redwood forest. i work with famous people but i am not famous. > > also, although i was a professional musician before, loopfest was > indeed my first loop performance. i had been mucking about with a > boomerang pedal (loaned to me by the band tarentel, who i was > working with) and an electrix repeater (loaned to me by dj vordo) > during parties at our warehome when matt hooked me up with rick > walker for y2k2 and then loopers-delight. i had no idea there was a > whole community dedicated to it, i didn't know it was called > looping, and i had never heard of robert fripp. > > so i guess ya'll are my base. --Apple-Mail-19-268024394 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII sorry matt =3D matt davignon

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    <= div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Date: = August 18, 2008 2:02:09 PM PDT
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    by the way, it was very = flattering back there in the stream to be thought of as "internationally = renowned". but its not really true because its just me here in my tiny = studio in the middle of a redwood forest. i work with famous people but = i am not famous.

    also, although i was a professional musician before, = loopfest was indeed my first loop performance. i had been mucking about = with a boomerang pedal (loaned to me by the band tarentel, who i was = working with) and an electrix repeater (loaned to me by dj vordo) during = parties at our warehome when matt hooked me up with rick walker for y2k2 = and then loopers-delight. i had no idea there was a whole community = dedicated to it, i didn't know it was called looping, and i had never = heard of robert fripp.
    so i guess ya'll are my = base.

    = --Apple-Mail-19-268024394-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 21:08:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 171A03BEAF; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=bRtqykPOnw8XxKibrJtdVHFDus8cWrIM6EWcjEFUNtEMfFrsCmHmyJensQrtUVDCByzRauIz1fL83BHJwBwAJF4qtFR6Bp+pjh5LaOLMXpXYWyzK6bSq76dPq5mCJRgUNSFC8aYWRT/jU8ZPhY7OrQBizh/sJd7hsckP1CrEblo= ; X-YMail-OSG: LEglYlgVM1lwE51RtXlBsVUSB7URdVXxd71sIobr6Uni8tz0jAbhxkgPwforkU3BORm_CZYEhcV26IJG1T6Xb9XRK98ZgBpRDMju.OWdOrWvVZ_q3d4RcQIyRlXht8DBTN6XGzYDdSgPQnM6Bo0sOE3P X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <00cc01c900fd$6273c550$0692a8c0@voo.intra> <4EDFAE6A-51FF-46AB-9CCD-1714D5AB7F9E@zerocrossing.net> In-Reply-To: <4EDFAE6A-51FF-46AB-9CCD-1714D5AB7F9E@zerocrossing.net> Subject: RE: Japan loopers? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:08:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c90176$95516d00$bff44700$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AckBZbjEFmkoCP/sT8u9Coln+tF31gAEItVQ Content-Language: en-gb Resent-Message-ID: <6KrsJB.A.cUF.ZTeqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:08:41 +0000 (UTC) "Ruby Room" in Shibuya is a cool place to check out local bands! Also, Cosmo's if you like Jazz amongst other things. It is also located in Shibuya. Roppongi is also good for music. Have fun, heading back out on November myself! Ricky Graham info@rickygraham.net +44(0)7743537349 www.rickygraham.net -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] Sent: 18 August 2008 19:42 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Japan loopers? Hey kids, Going to Japan from the 1st to the 15th of last month and I'm wondering if any of ya'll hail from that Island and could point me to a cool music performance or show of some sort. Mark -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. 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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:24:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:24:30 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:40 AM, George Ludwig wrote: > It was entirely powered by the USB bus, and fed MIDI data to the > computer via USB. This one was on the LD recently: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal? sku=701180 uses midi phantom power, not usb though. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 21:33:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22E553BEC0; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PVx1maLoiM8A:10 a=J5HA2-1eAAAA:8 a=kh4nhgB1AAAA:8 a=C0P3axCelyef5wC3Z6gA:9 a=zRWXeBTX0CULyKHUtU4A:7 a=MyE3z0tRRXVmnABsJD3EYDlt-k0A:4 a=KwjjQaiyEbMA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=NuGRnVSVnUwA:10 In-Reply-To: <822101.37304.qm@web50306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <822101.37304.qm@web50306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9549F22B-C8D5-44ED-A58F-44B2D5A71E59@zoekeating.com> Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:32:58 -0700 To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:33:00 +0000 (UTC) maybe the POK by xtempo? its a wireless foot controller, but not midi. On Aug 18, 2008, at 12:45 PM, George Ludwig wrote: > Sean & Per, > > Thanks for the repsonses. The device I saw was not an audio io box, > it was strictly a midi foot controller. > > If I recall, it was made by a smaller company that I had barely > heard of. It was a brand new product and may not have been shipping > yet. > > Crap, I should have bookmarked that page! > > -George > > > --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Sean Echevarria wrote: > >> From: Sean Echevarria >> Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? >> To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com >> Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:17 PM >> This hasn't been discussed recently but it's the >> only thing I'm aware >> of that is USB powered - unfortunately not a product, the >> hardware is DIY: >> http://www.creepingfog.com/mTroll/ >> >> >> Did a little more searching - maybe this is what you saw? >> The Guitar >> Rig 3 controller: >> http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php? >> id=rigcontrol3&L=1&nitr=1&l_src=guitarrig3&tsr_id=54530 >> >> >> >> At 2008.08.18 11:40 AM, George Ludwig wrote: >>> I saw on LD a month or two ago a very cool new USB foot >> controller. >>> I had never seen it before. It was entirely powered by >> the USB bus, >>> and fed MIDI data to the computer via USB. >>> >>> I searched LD archives for it, but unfortunately, >> keywords like "USB >>> Powered Foot Controller" yield many, many results. >> And unfortnately >>> it wasn't on the LD "tools of the trade" >> list. >>> >>> Does anyone know which one I'm talking about? > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 21:46:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD5E63BEC0; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=i5FuiqlH/dV3dsCKxOl/8anowYlhP6lOYceBI4Ry95XJNBQT+kuy+K/83RgIETr713GHyxxStArzJrmnZs1YOJL+hIOtrT0U7dkhiw/x6U5nmzc4HW+CkGulPMNBnKMBeoOnMOs5KEsUpN9X90WxGNBHL1JLeEHxGSPM/SFjxaE=; X-YMail-OSG: uPs5jokVM1liYz1Km2ky_NBhl6xW5NaNc2ksPUFRYyEmzRAGthfHtYgIIgoIhjInyoDqtgZTKCKRtFqiqWjUlnPb0moFxkhBJTeSUbCgqg5jkyXKWiwdTMJuuNRcuKrVakK0lwcuM2lUPu7VaJS2fiY- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:46:57 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9549F22B-C8D5-44ED-A58F-44B2D5A71E59@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <755576.14180.qm@web50303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Zoe, That's not the one I was looking at, but one less wire == goodness! I'll be looking closely at this piece, especially since it is supported by Ableton, and that's why I'm controller-shopping. -G --- On Mon, 8/18/08, info at zoekeating wrote: > From: info at zoekeating > Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? > To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 2:32 PM > maybe the POK by xtempo? its a wireless foot controller, but > not midi. > > > On Aug 18, 2008, at 12:45 PM, George Ludwig wrote: > > > Sean & Per, > > > > Thanks for the repsonses. The device I saw was not an > audio io box, > > it was strictly a midi foot controller. > > > > If I recall, it was made by a smaller company that I > had barely > > heard of. It was a brand new product and may not have > been shipping > > yet. > > > > Crap, I should have bookmarked that page! > > > > -George > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Sean Echevarria > wrote: > > > >> From: Sean Echevarria > >> Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? > >> To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com > >> Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:17 PM > >> This hasn't been discussed recently but > it's the > >> only thing I'm aware > >> of that is USB powered - unfortunately not a > product, the > >> hardware is DIY: > >> http://www.creepingfog.com/mTroll/ > >> > >> > >> Did a little more searching - maybe this is what > you saw? > >> The Guitar > >> Rig 3 controller: > >> http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php? > >> > id=rigcontrol3&L=1&nitr=1&l_src=guitarrig3&tsr_id=54530 > >> > >> > >> > >> At 2008.08.18 11:40 AM, George Ludwig wrote: > >>> I saw on LD a month or two ago a very cool new > USB foot > >> controller. > >>> I had never seen it before. It was entirely > powered by > >> the USB bus, > >>> and fed MIDI data to the computer via USB. > >>> > >>> I searched LD archives for it, but > unfortunately, > >> keywords like "USB > >>> Powered Foot Controller" yield many, many > results. > >> And unfortnately > >>> it wasn't on the LD "tools of the > trade" > >> list. > >>> > >>> Does anyone know which one I'm talking > about? > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 22:21:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBFCD3BEC2; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <262649E8-B618-4316-95ED-4B5FA8FE2909@zoekeating.com> References: <20080818103511.8e5hp6f10kogwcog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <262649E8-B618-4316-95ED-4B5FA8FE2909@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-272718260 Message-Id: <7dc9326090811dbbc760d892f8fa8cf7@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: live versus home rig Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:21:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:21:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-272718260 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed don't loop when I tour... YET! Live I use: One of 3 Magnatone 213 amps (old valve/tube jobbies) - and flight case. The Mag's are still fairly cheap, light and tone to die for. Pedal board Old Roland Volume Pedal Area 51 mod Crybaby Hip Kitty distortion T Rex Replica Durham Sex Drive Ultra Sound DI Plus (banjo and Phillips gtr) Voodoo Labs Pedal Power Plus 2 Pedaltrain pedal board & flight case Collings OM2H gtr with K&K 3 way pickup I use this rig for recording too. Usually a Sennheiser 421 on front and SM57 on rear of cabinet straight in and out of the board. Love the old Roland Dimension D on guitar though. Automatic wonderfulness. Not relevant but figured I'd send it anyhoo. For looping still using the RC50. Still looking for the right looper. Might be a dreaded laptop. Don't like to see folks doing the Spock onstage starting at laptops. (I should pay more attention to Kris and his rig!) Wishing the Looperlative held more data - could store more data. Some tracks I'd like to have prepared before hitting the stage. Some live improv. This winter hoping to spend more time with RC50 sync'd to sequences. We'll see how that goes. Doing another full on record this year so might not have time to do the heavy manual dance. Wish I could hire a tech to do the heavy lifting for me. Getting old. In the meantime I'm just an old school guitarist (& banjo) sometimes straight acoustic and sometimes thru the above rig. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 18-Aug-08, at 2:02 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > by the way, it was very flattering back there in the stream to be > thought of as "internationally renowned". but its not really true > because its just me here in my tiny studio in the middle of a redwood > forest. i work with famous people but i am not famous. > > also, although i was a professional musician before, loopfest was > indeed my first loop performance. i had been mucking about with a > boomerang pedal (loaned to me by the band tarentel, who i was working > with) and an electrix repeater (loaned to me by dj vordo) during > parties at our warehome when matt hooked me up with rick walker for > y2k2 and then loopers-delight. i had no idea there was a whole > community dedicated to it, i didn't know it was called looping, and i > had never heard of robert fripp. > > so i guess ya'll are my base. > --Apple-Mail-4-272718260 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII don't loop when I tour... YET! Live I use: One of 3 Magnatone 213 amps (old valve/tube jobbies) - and flight case. The Mag's are still fairly cheap, light and tone to die for. Pedal board Old Roland Volume Pedal Area 51 mod Crybaby Hip Kitty distortion T Rex Replica Durham Sex Drive Ultra Sound DI Plus (banjo and Phillips gtr) Voodoo Labs Pedal Power Plus 2 Pedaltrain pedal board & flight case Collings OM2H gtr with K&K 3 way pickup I use this rig for recording too. Usually a Sennheiser 421 on front and SM57 on rear of cabinet straight in and out of the board. Love the old Roland Dimension D on guitar though. Automatic wonderfulness. Not relevant but figured I'd send it anyhoo. For looping still using the RC50. Still looking for the right looper. Might be a dreaded laptop. Don't like to see folks doing the Spock onstage starting at laptops. (I should pay more attention to Kris and his rig!) Wishing the Looperlative held more data - could store more data. Some tracks I'd like to have prepared before hitting the stage. Some live improv. This winter hoping to spend more time with RC50 sync'd to sequences. We'll see how that goes. Doing another full on record this year so might not have time to do the heavy manual dance. Wish I could hire a tech to do the heavy lifting for me. Getting old. In the meantime I'm just an old school guitarist (& banjo) sometimes straight acoustic and sometimes thru the above rig. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 18-Aug-08, at 2:02 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: by the way, it was very flattering back there in the stream to be thought of as "internationally renowned". but its not really true because its just me here in my tiny studio in the middle of a redwood forest. i work with famous people but i am not famous. also, although i was a professional musician before, loopfest was indeed my first loop performance. i had been mucking about with a boomerang pedal (loaned to me by the band tarentel, who i was working with) and an electrix repeater (loaned to me by dj vordo) during parties at our warehome when matt hooked me up with rick walker for y2k2 and then loopers-delight. i had no idea there was a whole community dedicated to it, i didn't know it was called looping, and i had never heard of robert fripp. so i guess ya'll are my base. --Apple-Mail-4-272718260-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 22:27:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FD193BEC3; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 320003.92818.bm@omp125.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=0DxayWV9fw/7fwP1QFf7wZWObHWpZGnLgXWx7V71UI+l/nZb7VCOVkyWIK9GCFpsA9PGVnvB1O3ai9oeHL72nqjpUSvmSRGqh7JPOkNz9dnGUDq7HSJrUZh2BN2/5Rn09hK4uKXN4uMQvov+aBPAv50uBLkDOgZtdVTIH7Gcxhk=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:27:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <382090.57561.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Howdy Rick, Well, actually... Hmmmm. I haven't really 'toured' per se in eons, and when I used to, it was in a non-looping context (apart from layered delays, of course). Our philosophy (band, sound AND lighting guys) was always "keep it simple and bring a spare of anything important". So we'd each have two amps, two instruments (as identical as possible) etc. Except for the drummer; he only had one drumkit. But he did use two sticks. It was all pretty similar from the rehearsal room to the stage, and we never flew; the gear either went in our bus with all of us or by truck with some of us arriving by car from different directions. As far as LOOPING gigs, it's always a different rig, except for the rare times when I do a few consecutive shows out of town, in which case it's basically the same rig for the trip. My very first ages-ago looping gigs were Eno-influenced two open reel things around the same time Fripp was letting the power fall in barbershops and so forth; those were never really very far from home, though. To answer your question about the rig in the pix: it's pretty simple, the pedalboard on the left is just basic guitar tone stuff. Passive 4x mixer for extra inputs > eq > overdrive > volume pedal > whah pedal (which I ripped out of the board in a [mostly silent, hopefully] fit of pique five minutes before the Nave show) > delay (pre-looper) > reverb (pre-looper) > chorus > tuner (not necessarily in that order) with two outs, one to Ch. 1 of the rack mixer (more on that later) and the other to: Pedalboard 2 (loop central): Input from pedalboard 1 goes into a 4 channel distribution amp (right now a headphone amp from that ubiquitous cheap German company, ie. the B word, which works OK but could be better). From the distribution amp I run four lines, one each to a DL4, an RC-20, a Headrush and one up to the EchoPro in the rack (also more later). Each of the loopers then goes to its own mixer channel. In the [4 space] rack: a Korg keyboard mixer, a Korg SDD-1000 delay (in the aux, post-looper), an EchoPro and a reverb (global, post-ever'thang). I also have a 6-space rack that's not really any bigger than the deep 4 space that I'm in the process of switching over to, which adds 5 separate paths of mono processing (one for the direct channel 1 signal and one for each of the 4 loopers) with a Lexicon MX200, a Boss RPS-10 and a Fostex DE-1. >From the rack, it goes to either two amps (different amps/sizes of amps depending if it's an electric or acoustic gig) or for bigger shows, the direct signal goes to an amp for monitoring/feedback pre-mixer and the post signal to a small stereo PA setup. (Different size power amps and speakers to be mixed and matched depending on the size of the venue and vehicle.) Miscellany from the pix: a strat and a 335 (this varies on whim), the iBook is only running M-Tron, no looping software in there. There's a stand holding a tray fulla capos, slides, microcassette players and suchlike toys, and hanging under the stand is a gong played with a padded kick drum beater. Sometimes I use a 2 tiered keyboard stand to add an organ to the mellotron... The rack goes at about a 45 degree angle on an amp stand putting the controls right up towards yo' face, and is secured with a nylon strap; always buckle up. That's about it... It sets up pretty quickly since all the wiring within the rack and within each pedalboard stays intact, and I've built little patch bays on the boards and at the back of the rack to prevent having to lie on the floor with a flashlight in my mouth looking for the proper jacks on the rack units themselves. When I'm REALLY organized, it's hooked up with a color-coded snake, but I didn't get that far before the Nave show. The home and/or recording rig is: *whatever* gets hooked up, usually more bizarre than we have time, space or inclination to get into here. best, -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Rick Walker wrote: > From: Rick Walker > Subject: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 7:35 AM > Dear Tim, > > Looking at the pix you guys put up (re: pix) > > your setup looks really cool, powerful and intriguing to > me. > > > Would you have time to explain to use what your rig is and > how you use it? > > > Also, I'm curious, (just because I'm auditioning > lots of different > scenarios > for touring and playing festivals): > > How long does it take you to set this up and what does it > all weigh > approximately. > > > If flown across the country (or to Europe, the UK, > South/Central America or > Asia) > would you bring this rig , and if not, how would you pare > it down? > > > > > > > In fact, it would be great to hear from others what there > touring rig > consists of > and what their 'play my hometown or withing shot of an > automobile" rig would > consist of. > > > > There it is: the theme of this thread > (finally..... > > > WHAT'S YOUR TOURING RIG LIKE and how does it differ > from your AT HOME RIG? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 22:40:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF0563BECD; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=GVlrMQW5dodPxq79RFKWcoDIbl6d99GUyfjv+yfpr88=; b=fXzMj3ABQObTVkfOqPQW5VTRjKZm6/lXrV8bplA4F8gsQ75gjRh/nFpvp1SU80QeQP ilyX/Pv5cXPPQcnsLjmJuIT1lwrHkSEUsLAOY6ijmQpA4LONriS2jhVF78CaDFbV9nhu jBWpLDL2lPbg6bZwRw7fFf07DHbog4mMjHet4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ALLX0nGc95eAVW4eUy8cpmM3eAaGXbPh6aDmS7y2kw4hTqzaTz1N+IAonj1CrbHTYL hVEWPaqVcVeGBisxQ65fHDa6ZBx0V+BxkBmwm6esfNPpbXt82KwSTi5+JrrH8qhkHwkj QsUZhVvgDWuVZ04uQRynlNKOZPCkuEQru/TtU= Message-ID: <4759e5740808181540l1cb88254t9a805dd666ca573@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:40:00 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? In-Reply-To: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_129959_5960899.1219099200410" References: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: <15s7EC.A.5TF.BpfqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:40:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_129959_5960899.1219099200410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline My looping/touring rig... ============================== MacBookPro 4space rack containing... Motu Traveler Oberheim Echoplex Wireless In-Ears, Wireless Mic System Triplite Rackmounted powerstrip Behringer fcb1010, occasionally, locally, a Novation RemoteSL 37, and an Eventide Orville. (sometimes if I have long-term residency, I ship my Orville as well. ) =============================== My recording rig at home is : A Mac Tower, pre-intel, running a metric-halo Mobile I/O with Logic, run with a Mackie control, into which my looping rig goes... =============================== So, I guess my short answer to the question is that my home and touring rig aren't really different at all, other than that I have more hardware accessible to me at home, which I'd use everywhere if I could afford to travel with it. Traveling has made things difficult to be sure, even to the extent that during my upcoming tour to Poland in November, i'm planning on just taking my MacBook, a Motu Ultralite or even lighter, and my Behringer, that's it, no rack. We'll see. Great thread this is, enjoying seeing everyone's setups! Bests, Todd September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_129959_5960899.1219099200410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    My looping/touring rig... 

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    MacBookPro

    4space rack containing... 

    Motu Traveler
    Oberheim Echoplex
    Wireless In-Ears, Wireless Mic System
    Triplite Rackmounted powerstrip

    Behringer fcb1010,  

    occasionally, locally, a Novation RemoteSL 37, and an Eventide Orville. (sometimes if I have long-term residency, I ship my Orville as well. )

    ===============================

    My recording rig at home is :

    A Mac Tower, pre-intel, running a metric-halo Mobile I/O with Logic, run with a Mackie control, into which my looping rig goes... 

    ===============================

    So, I guess my short answer to the question is that my home and touring rig aren't really different at all, other than that I have more hardware accessible to me at home, which I'd use everywhere if I could afford to travel with it. 

    Traveling has made things difficult to be sure, even to the extent that during my upcoming tour to Poland in November, i'm planning on just taking my MacBook, a Motu Ultralite or even lighter, and my Behringer, that's it, no rack. We'll see. 

    Great thread this is, enjoying seeing everyone's setups!   Bests, Todd 






    September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th.

    http://blog.toddreynolds.com
    http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic

    ------=_Part_129959_5960899.1219099200410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 22:49:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 719113BED5; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=ZQqHqIAU8tJ/9ZP9Nkq6+HoPrQWnbLEI3z3wQHd8PlFyFBvzGRy33hts4l85gpt9HmZCt0u1Qb0sTYB4suNdEMd/MrCPDVdxjTbNnQL4FuaSS4l4SXL3P2OTn/shjvaWQWeEOovne0xY5TmKWNPHxdk9i9dYWGeLfAKpVqLbsrQ= ; X-YMail-OSG: eSnigCcVM1mduroAKBfa.r72ulWBD7RIHQQNbloJjj9pkVGiXC40PUGaSUcWxI6JxRv0vD_vY7iWoREg6xDtCQ_rRfYwHZ3aVwXF9pDpvcy37mlLMr4aAjzVYFpwqkseRKsFDRLauTVHz_djyTIn4iyK X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:49:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c90184$ab2836a0$0178a3e0$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C9018D.0CEC9EA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AckBhKpWbEDva5KBTcOZ335TGwmLog== Content-Language: en-gb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:49:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C9018D.0CEC9EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Specifically the guitarists amongst you. In your own experience, what works well? Thanks in advance, Ricky Graham info@rickygraham.net +44(0)7743537349 www.rickygraham.net ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C9018D.0CEC9EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Specifically the guitarists amongst you. In your = own experience, what works well?

     

    Thanks in advance,

     

    Ricky = Graham

    info@rickygraham.net

    +44(0)7743537349

     

    www.rickygraham.net

     

    ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C9018D.0CEC9EA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 23:04:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C061A3BEBE; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=/4pnJkZyoyXpnXp/WCtYQ0r7fhTT6lJulztiec4ppb4=; b=HcI/SN3mb+hMRSwlFbfuSO2APdEwM5NU8I5fy8AROsXYlDxbs1JZxkdOU8eQy8mPNW TYTqRSiJlHWELbgmlosTBnXplam8P5nkV3h3VRWRVZl4UI7d3ckLb2dmlTOECJVTPs2I Ria85rUmPjf/i1W4o/toyPm3W1NuBFzSg2k58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Azdlvdkv2lpal8WI1Uw5KHvxtQyU94UCtie//bAZ7eAX4mM5uWjXTUTkPIBiuQVcaZ VKLbS9wwuHfzAsL8JGBuk4a4ExDmdS/U2eV5YA6ptAwFkyzMe2jjIW3SkBHwtg1Pfh+/ iegJ0j2g6XW/lAy5s6sjyWtB+Z+g3rLvtMJaM= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808181604r66be770ekcd087a087e9a5e5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:04:23 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? In-Reply-To: <4759e5740808181540l1cb88254t9a805dd666ca573@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33671_1913456.1219100663842" References: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <4759e5740808181540l1cb88254t9a805dd666ca573@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:04:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_33671_1913456.1219100663842 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm def'ly carrying more than I used to, mostly instruments but for me quite a few electronics, same for home and the road... Seagull Acoustic/or Adamas copy fretless Mandolin Oud 5 input Behringer mixer Digitech X Delay pedal EHX 2880 looper Digitech RP150 6/7 patch cords bottle of wine (joking, so far not in my standard rig!... that was special for our lodging host in Boston) Jim On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:40 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > My looping/touring rig... > ============================== > MacBookPro > > 4space rack containing... > > Motu Traveler > Oberheim Echoplex > Wireless In-Ears, Wireless Mic System > Triplite Rackmounted powerstrip > > Behringer fcb1010, > > occasionally, locally, a Novation RemoteSL 37, and an Eventide Orville. > (sometimes if I have long-term residency, I ship my Orville as well. ) > > =============================== > > My recording rig at home is : > > A Mac Tower, pre-intel, running a metric-halo Mobile I/O with Logic, run > with a Mackie control, into which my looping rig goes... > > =============================== > > So, I guess my short answer to the question is that my home and touring rig > aren't really different at all, other than that I have more hardware > accessible to me at home, which I'd use everywhere if I could afford to > travel with it. > > Traveling has made things difficult to be sure, even to the extent that > during my upcoming tour to Poland in November, i'm planning on just taking > my MacBook, a Motu Ultralite or even lighter, and my Behringer, that's it, > no rack. We'll see. > > Great thread this is, enjoying seeing everyone's setups! Bests, Todd > > > > > > > September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as > Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th. > > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_33671_1913456.1219100663842 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I'm def'ly carrying more than I used to, mostly instruments but for me quite a few electronics, same for home and the road...
     
    Seagull Acoustic/or Adamas copy fretless
    Mandolin
    Oud
    5 input Behringer mixer
    Digitech X Delay pedal
    EHX 2880 looper
    Digitech RP150
    6/7 patch cords
    bottle of wine (joking, so far not in my standard rig!... that was special for our lodging host in Boston)
     
     
    Jim
     


     
    On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:40 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
    My looping/touring rig... 

    ==============================
    MacBookPro

    4space rack containing... 

    Motu Traveler
    Oberheim Echoplex
    Wireless In-Ears, Wireless Mic System
    Triplite Rackmounted powerstrip

    Behringer fcb1010,  

    occasionally, locally, a Novation RemoteSL 37, and an Eventide Orville. (sometimes if I have long-term residency, I ship my Orville as well. )

    ===============================

    My recording rig at home is :

    A Mac Tower, pre-intel, running a metric-halo Mobile I/O with Logic, run with a Mackie control, into which my looping rig goes... 

    ===============================

    So, I guess my short answer to the question is that my home and touring rig aren't really different at all, other than that I have more hardware accessible to me at home, which I'd use everywhere if I could afford to travel with it. 

    Traveling has made things difficult to be sure, even to the extent that during my upcoming tour to Poland in November, i'm planning on just taking my MacBook, a Motu Ultralite or even lighter, and my Behringer, that's it, no rack. We'll see. 

    Great thread this is, enjoying seeing everyone's setups!   Bests, Todd 






    September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th.

    http://blog.toddreynolds.com
    http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic




    --
    The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    Chinapainting -
    http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    Chinapainting on My Space -
    http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
    The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
    Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
    ------=_Part_33671_1913456.1219100663842-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 23:17:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B18D83BE86; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=IHSFMBpKuhINs1C+gJqIh1WhkNvA9FW1jRtbMtbFpAE=; b=Z8naY8UhZGDOSIMV1/r+F4PhqbypQAkw2tIXFcp5lG/rtSYIFZFMew7SXkV/b6+GEp LVFRwiaNTfpr1lGN9DZANjK2qjGpuBmahHWrO7dahN7oihDPfXtlGP2I5QzKM5EHwRL9 Y+HA6OOEMU1pWyfvH/SJX7tbYaATv2vcGw9d0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=o4y4yQfYnWnU6EDipuKaIN5CQKODc33ferPOo0Pp6YZ//zWQBHqKsqg8nOvtl35bJI VsPnAOhCybccp8i/ZssomavbVSPbQp96DjNTMtfgHLJBM8eZckOC2C1NIUa2OcKx4gH2 v2Hw1MJyMUuFGIhG3maEY/n5xreCADHZNh1Jc= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808181617h38e73ac0j2d46c3ba055b9d6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:17:41 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: CT-Collective - ReUse project call for composers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33815_916593.1219101461848" Resent-Message-ID: <5uA2RC.A.Hg.XMgqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:17:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_33815_916593.1219101461848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I am leading a new CT-Collective project that I titled ReUse. It's theme is .... ReUse, a Chain-Tape-Collective project CD focused on pieces of music made from things that are often thrown away after one use. Not a lot of rules here other than produce a piece of music from things often thrown away by our society on the idea that we are giving something whether of musical sound or not in itself a 2nd life. My inspiration was while waiting on the subway one more I had a disposable plastic ice tea cup in my hand and I happened to move the straw getting the sound gen'd by friction of plastic. I later heard a story maybe on this list or somewhere where someone had taken an old car that was worn out and broke it up making something musical of it. We are at http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CT-ReUse/ and currently 13 members. I'm thinking of closing the door at 16 which would leave composition time @4min. Should there be a great rush of interest from the community I would consider expanding to two volumes. Tenative deadline for project delivery end of the year to mid January. This is my first CT-Collective as a curator/leader, second to participate in after Krispen's inspiring BUGS... Jim -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_33815_916593.1219101461848 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I am leading a new CT-Collective project that I titled ReUse.  It's theme is ....
     
    ReUse, a Chain-Tape-Collective project CD focused on pieces of music made from things that are often thrown away after one use.
     
    Not a lot of rules here other than produce a piece of music from things often thrown away by our society on the idea that we are giving something whether of musical sound or not in itself a 2nd life.  My inspiration was while waiting on the subway one more I had a disposable plastic ice tea cup in my hand and I happened to move the straw getting the sound gen'd by friction of plastic.  I later heard a story maybe on this list or somewhere where someone had taken an old car that was worn out and broke it up making something musical of it.
     
    We are at http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CT-ReUse/ and currently 13 members.  I'm thinking of closing the door at 16 which would leave composition time @4min.  Should there be a great rush of interest from the community I would consider expanding to two volumes.  Tenative deadline for project delivery end of the year to mid January.
     
    This is my first CT-Collective as a curator/leader, second to participate in after Krispen's inspiring BUGS...
     
    Jim


    --
    The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    Chinapainting -
    http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    Chinapainting on My Space -
    http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
    The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
    Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
    ------=_Part_33815_916593.1219101461848-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 23:25:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0FC23BE8E; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:25:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1219101907; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=ZaFrlRO6+l94bHVHBdPc2bi3wKA=; b=XsR0KeamsAfDIUIPmExFpkdtndi0es9AUduQZkxi7IoTz4jWl+iDOHWLWAFFCJIq oofOqaQ+W2lauAoQ36dx5q7eYrSgjozrFkfCJO5BpSR9jFWeUJDFsZaxH6Btm693; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PVx1maLoiM8A:10 a=RTSOL_qJAAAA:8 a=TY-btpfdAAAA:8 a=6D-Hy7tQAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=_sBU8oPf93hwoSJnu4cA:9 a=vbf83IvtPygJ_ZiER5sA:7 a=mtlXDAfMmzPAaY03gxBL5dXwlRAA:4 a=1wbSg2HUW0IA:10 a=uL3qOuNcMWcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001c90189$a65363c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <765668.54476.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <5F7CDA90-9549-46F9-A9DE-94C2FB538711@gmail.com> Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:25:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:25:08 +0000 (UTC) How 'bout http://www.gordius.be/ the Gordius little giant? jEFF > > On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:40 AM, George Ludwig wrote: > >> It was entirely powered by the USB bus, and fed MIDI data to the >> computer via USB. > > > This one was on the LD recently: > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal? > sku=701180 > > uses midi phantom power, not usb though. > > > BobC > > > > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > > http://www.youtube.com/tynego > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 8/18/2008 5:39 PM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 23:36:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC49A3BE86; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 17690 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:36:43 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <000301c90176$95516d00$bff44700$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> References: <00cc01c900fd$6273c550$0692a8c0@voo.intra> <4EDFAE6A-51FF-46AB-9CCD-1714D5AB7F9E@zerocrossing.net> <000301c90176$95516d00$bff44700$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <43DCAA5E-0B5B-46F1-BB50-45D40DD562A1@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: Japan loopers? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:36:41 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Thanks sir. M On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > "Ruby Room" in Shibuya is a cool place to check out local bands! Also, > Cosmo's if you like Jazz amongst other things. It is also located in > Shibuya. Roppongi is also good for music. > > Have fun, heading back out on November myself! > > Ricky Graham > info@rickygraham.net > +44(0)7743537349 > > www.rickygraham.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] > Sent: 18 August 2008 19:42 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Japan loopers? > > Hey kids, > > Going to Japan from the 1st to the 15th of last month and I'm > wondering if any of ya'll hail from that Island and could point me to > a cool music performance or show of some sort. > > Mark > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: > 17/08/2008 > 12:58 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 23:40:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC8FE3BE86; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:40:05 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=iEfAZK5498cA:10 a=H6z0U1N7QcYA:10 a=__8kiy4vAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=KRrnTP6_cOZLG-f5DWIA:9 a=48-mayAqTxKNtcHpK2XQLp3HrEYA:4 a=HRHDm8kbEsIA:10 a=JML9jkpgCKoA:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Kvogs4Uu0T7cjzhON1wA:9 a=6WD_e0HoQUNGpZyukXYA:7 a=qEPYvloEoCPc4GBEJpeu2myeW0kA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 From: "Sean Murphy" To: Subject: Hello from Memphis & DOES YOUR TOURING RIG... Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:34:31 -0500 Message-ID: <001801c9018a$f73acbb0$e5b06310$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C90161.0E64C3B0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AckBivATvSI/snUVRqWx8dzjHy68sA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:40:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C90161.0E64C3B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, I just joined the list in the last couple of days and figured I should introduce myself. I have a degree in Ethnomusicology and I am a multi-instrumentalist, instrument-maker, and educator. I'm based in Memphis but do a fair amount of traveling (mostly in the US thus far) to teach workshops and perform. My company, Being:Art, has a line of instruments developed for outdoor classrooms that we sell throughout the US. My interest in looping grew with my interest in composition and the evergrowing number of instruments I play. To answer the question about the home rig/traveling rig that is currently being discussed. Many instruments (incl. Tuba, didjeridu, doson'goni, ethnic flutes & whistles, world percussion, Tibetan bowls, voice, etc.) > Shure SM-98A & SM-81 > Tapco Mixer > EH 16 second (reissue) thru the effects send/return on the mixer > Bose PAS system. The only difference between the home and touring rig would be changing out any number of instruments based on what I need & I generally don't travel with the Bose b/c I've had luck borrowing/renting in the past (Bose has a pretty decent network setup for owners to share/rent systems). The EH 16 has been great for creating ambient sounds but doesn't lend itself to rhythmic work. I recently played a show with William Eaton and I dug his Jamman setup so much that I just bought one on Ebay. It'll be here at the end of the week. We'll see how it gets incorporated into the rig. I'd like to just say that I've only been on this list for a couple of days and I really dig how active the discussions are, how varied the topics are, and I dig the general positive vibe thus far. It's great to meet you all! If you're interested in learning more about what I do, you can find plenty of info at the links below. Thanks, Sean Murphy Being:Art LLC sean@beingart.com 901.292.4961 http://beingart.com http://myspace.com/onetruebreath http://myspace.com/murphynorthcutt ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C90161.0E64C3B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hello everyone,

     

    I just joined the list in the last couple of = days and figured I should introduce myself.  I have a degree in = Ethnomusicology and I am a multi-instrumentalist, instrument-maker, and educator.  = I’m based in Memphis but do a fair amount of traveling (mostly in the US = thus far) to teach workshops and perform.  My company, Being:Art, has a line = of instruments developed for outdoor classrooms that we sell throughout the US.  My interest in looping grew with my interest in composition = and the evergrowing number of instruments I play.  To answer the question = about the home rig/traveling rig that is currently being = discussed…

     

    Many instruments (incl. Tuba, didjeridu, doson’goni, ethnic flutes & whistles, world percussion, = Tibetan bowls, voice, etc.) > Shure SM-98A & SM-81 > Tapco Mixer > = EH 16 second (reissue) thru the effects send/return on the mixer > Bose PAS system.  The only difference between the home and touring rig would = be changing out any number of instruments based on what I need & I = generally don’t travel with the Bose b/c I’ve had luck = borrowing/renting in the past (Bose has a pretty decent network setup for owners to = share/rent systems). 

     

    The EH 16 has been great for creating ambient = sounds but doesn’t lend itself to rhythmic work.  I recently played a = show with William Eaton and I dug his Jamman setup so much that I just bought one = on Ebay.  It’ll be here at the end of the week.  = We’ll see how it gets incorporated into the rig.

     

    I'd like to just say that I've only been on this = list for a couple of days and I really dig how active the discussions are, how = varied the topics are, and I dig the general positive vibe thus far.  It's = great to meet you all! 

     

    If you’re interested in learning more = about what I do, you can find plenty of info at the links below.

     

    Thanks,

    Sean Murphy

    Being:Art LLC

    sean@beingart.com

    901.292.4961<= o:p>

    http://beingart.com

    =

    http://myspace.com/onetruebreat= h

    http://myspace.com/murphynort= hcutt

     

     

     

    ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C90161.0E64C3B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 23:50:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53CDC3BE8C; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:50:19 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UKN0IQWRBxwA:10 a=Noahj8Ppcr0A:10 a=OlF8s9q9AAAA:8 a=qfQHzifOAAAA:8 a=__8kiy4vAAAA:8 a=XyLa4VouCo0_llBepEgA:9 a=InviMEweGXJf9Dq4-u9Qa1CoDD8A:4 a=HRHDm8kbEsIA:10 a=JML9jkpgCKoA:10 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=4wWQSRHn7nvS_HwGJDEA:9 a=vnwZPA2bNQIMiwRzxoQA:7 a=6WdpZLYwhmeF9Vz4i_X9H1D5Ir4A:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 From: "Sean Murphy" To: Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:44:45 -0500 Message-ID: <001d01c9018c$652a4cd0$2f7ee670$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C90162.7C5444D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AckBjGF3INn6ZLK3QseM6ZOCdo5FiQ== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:50:19 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C90162.7C5444D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Margaret, Some great instrument making resources that you may want to check out: Sound Designs by Reinhold Banek & Jon Scoville & Musical Instrument Design by Bart Hopkin (this is the best reference book on instrument design I've ever seen). Also, check out http://windworld.com/, this is the home of the infamous magazine Experimental Musical Instruments. Bart Hopkins runs the page and he's got some great resources available and you can get a CD-ROM (or photocopies) of all the magazines. I seem to recall a few great articles on teachers working with children creating homemade and found sound instruments. You might want to check out the Kennedy Center site for ideas/lessons, http://artsedge.kennedy-center.org/. Hope this helps! Sean Murphy Being:Art LLC sean@beingart.com 901.292.4961 http://beingart.com ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C90162.7C5444D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hi Margaret,

     

    Some great instrument making resources that you may = want to check out:  Sound Designs by Reinhold Banek & Jon = Scoville & Musical Instrument Design by Bart Hopkin (this is the best reference book on instrument design I’ve ever seen).  Also, check out http://windworld.com/, this is the = home of the infamous magazine Experimental Musical Instruments.  Bart Hopkins = runs the page and he’s got some great resources available and you can get a = CD-ROM (or photocopies) of all the magazines.  I seem to recall a few great = articles on teachers working with children creating homemade and found sound = instruments. 

     

    You might want to check out the Kennedy Center site = for ideas/lessons, http://artsedge.kennedy-cent= er.org/. 

     

    Hope this helps!

    Sean Murphy

    Being:Art LLC

    sean@beingart.com

    901.292.4961<= o:p>

    http://beingart.com

    =

     

     

    ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C90162.7C5444D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 23:51:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CB143BE90; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=__8kiy4vAAAA:8 a=2RctNdRX0tKNGv4GQkYA:9 a=P4Jnty18cNcM13HGGiwFU9LyHikA:4 a=HRHDm8kbEsIA:10 a=JML9jkpgCKoA:10 a=uv1ck3d6JtEA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=zk39jzyTsQc8z-M3oV0A:9 a=hrwwACcgUE4KE9EHe0kA:7 a=OclwWg8JcuftelbOuW_ydYmgcUUA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 From: "Sean Murphy" To: Subject: Re: pix Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:48:31 -0500 Message-ID: <002201c9018c$ebfbb280$c3f31780$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90163.0325AA80" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AckBjOBS2AR326tLR+eoypGNhjiFSQ== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:51:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90163.0325AA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, The pics are great & I to love the oud. Some artists you may want to check out if you havent already: Rabih Abou-Khalil, Dhaffer Youssef (pretty sure he does some oud looping), and Anouar Brahem. Looking forward to hearing some. Sean Murphy Being:Art LLC sean@beingart.com 901.292.4961 http://beingart.com ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90163.0325AA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Jim,

     

    The pics are great & I to love the oud.  = Some artists you may want to check out if you havent already: Rabih = Abou-Khalil, Dhaffer Youssef (pretty sure he does some oud looping), and Anouar = Brahem.  Looking forward to hearing some…

     

    Sean Murphy

    Being:Art LLC

    901.292.4961<= /span>

     

     

    ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C90163.0325AA80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 23:58:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 136393BE85; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 420 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:58:48 UTC Message-ID: <48AA0B10.8020006@gordius.be> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:51:44 +0200 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? References: <765668.54476.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <5F7CDA90-9549-46F9-A9DE-94C2FB538711@gmail.com> <001001c90189$a65363c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <001001c90189$a65363c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Coincidence... I was just emailing William Walker about this at this very moment : the Little Giant is not USB-powered unfortunately. I'll just copy-and-paste what I was explaining to Bill :
    Main problem is that with the high brightness LEDs the LG draws more current than what's allowed for a low-power USB device. The USB protocol allows me to define the LG as a "high power" device which can draw up to 500mA, but that would require the LG to go into some kind of power saving mode (dimming all LEDs) whenever you try to plug in the USB cable, and only go back to full power after the PC has recognized the hardware correctly. My first prototype was USB powered, without all this logic implemented, so I fried the internal USB ports of my laptop, making it pretty unusable... that's when I decided using USB power was not a bright idea for the LittleGiant.... ;-)

    Jeff Duke wrote:
    How 'bout http://www.gordius.be/ the Gordius little giant?

    jEFF



    On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:40 AM, George Ludwig wrote:

    It was entirely powered by the USB bus, and fed MIDI data to the computer via USB.


    This one was on the LD recently:
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal? sku=701180

    uses midi phantom power, not usb though.


    BobC



    http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j

    http://www.youtube.com/tynego


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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 18 23:59:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FD093BE98; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=f94caWULXwLTSyPY7eaulkc0k1hm1liix4V2yR3Ntkc=; b=H7EniYhJv27MEdbZ1M0F1IaLJkERQj7mYaibhnUwXSd2FouWP5Venqgl11JndUn+X1 nqo7LYXZMa3w7a1VpsO+HZCnvhxqegcq458bEEpjPetcT45L0QwQhmyLh7Q9+mJcmxEP v1hAR9tYWiRbtEXagGbmn+7yhlSdGRfosE6qw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=c8SD9mIQoxXGygPJahL2E+h8z6YoAIysXHZcTbja5opxgXiLvr2jbjRMoF8mAkamMV 5u89vjhId+Jmb7G1TcGdmY0hBH4omZZ156NeUkf0MshS+hudr25CtYRe4+3sRv1iNYXy V+7luEvfAZdUGug8Vzeux3ExFEueji36kfO9Q= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808181659q5f99d55dh146a41e82062ce8f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:59:00 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: pix In-Reply-To: <002201c9018c$ebfbb280$c3f31780$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34172_32869242.1219103940584" References: <002201c9018c$ebfbb280$c3f31780$@com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:59:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_34172_32869242.1219103940584 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sean thanks - the Nave pix were photographed by my Chinapainting compadre Daryl [Shawn] and our fellow Nave of the evening Tim Nelson. Re the oud it's a new passion but digging it particulary the next to last bass strings= , seomthing about it's "whoop" that just kicks even on my cheap one. I don't know the first two you mention but ironically was given a copy of an ECM CD with Anouar Brahem by a guitar student of mine that I just love, have been listening to over and over again. Will search the others out thanks for th= e info... Good to hear from another southern, though I left my crossroads of Arkansas Delta meets the Ozarks hills in early 91 for my now home in NY (Brooklyn) I grew up in the White River Valley 120 miles from Memphis and miss it more and more as the years pass. Strangely I used to think that my southern traditions had little to do in my muse but more and more I feel more attached to the haunts of the Arkansas Delta... Thanks again re the oud... Jim www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Jim, > > > > The pics are great & I to love the oud. Some artists you may want to che= ck > out if you havent already: Rabih Abou-Khalil, Dhaffer Youssef (pretty sur= e > he does some oud looping), and Anouar Brahem. Looking forward to hearing > some=85 > > > > Sean Murphy > > Being:Art LLC > > sean@beingart.com > > 901.292.4961 > > http://beingart.com > > > > > --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_34172_32869242.1219103940584 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
    Sean thanks - the Nave pix were photographed by my Ch= inapainting compadre Daryl [Shawn] and our fellow Nave of the evening Tim N= elson.  Re the oud it's a new passion but digging it particulary t= he next to last bass strings, seomthing about it's "whoop" th= at just kicks even on my cheap one.  I don't know the first two yo= u mention but ironically was given a copy of an ECM CD with Anouar Brahem b= y a guitar student of mine that I just love, have been listening to over an= d over again.  Will search the others out thanks for the info...
     
    Good to hear from another southern, though I left my crossroads of Ark= ansas Delta meets the Ozarks hills in early 91 for my now home in NY (Brook= lyn) I grew up in the White River Valley 120 miles from Memphis and miss it= more and more as the years pass.  Strangely I used to think that my s= outhern traditions had little to do in my muse but more and more I feel mor= e attached to the haunts of the Arkansas Delta...
     
    Thanks again re the oud...
     
    Jim
    www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= /div>


     
    On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Sean Murphy <sean@beingart.com> wrote:



    -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmus= ic
    Chinapainting -
    http://www= .chinapaintingmusic.com
    Chinapainting on My Space -
    http://www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic.com
    The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
    Jim Goo= din uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghs= strings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay = Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.co= m
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 00:29:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CBB53BE8D; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=i7CZBvBtNNwGpRtKzJnu85xmr70K3Izd2V9mo5P6PDg=; b=e7VMvI6MVPJBXmIg5pE11JWOAhLArD+5V2WXn9ys5Bmq+ZDmZpWEHOIfPRfYtgHxGp VmeBhpPlm/2xid8Mwbv+4U8btgU6NBCNTo/K0BOEmm7lF0ZSFpRvmCfXHP/BXbxTsO/C e+p8OO0TDqIxcMo0J9H+UxRtFq+GAcduCFqKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=kDSbsWTiG+2zlpnLWm64xnLWn1WJ0d8ghI38lu+jxYReN/0u1LFJMRpsFYPFKbHWC+ 5LcGOF8mwB5kuQ6tilMZnA2AFUkEFSLIfRwn2UGkhp0RrxwCL6E1Sqx/T7DTwYp2WV8M Xct4//70lewuR3gOjDqlH+27Avcmeh/IDSnLY= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:29:07 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! In-Reply-To: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7C4jPD.A.i4F.UPhqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Hi Margaret, Hmmm, since you're working with 10th graders, why not apply these ideas to instrumental hip hop? It's very loop-oriented, has a "use what's available to you" aesthetic, and there's a good chance more of your students will be into it. The musicians would engage in building phrases that repeat over the course of a song, are musically understandable, but require careful listening. It'd definitely be useful to get some sort of looping mechanism. It sounds like an Ableton Live setup would be ideal, especially if you have computers available to you. Then for the rest of the stuff, go back to the roots - a cheap old turntable & cd player, various drums & resonant objects, guitars with things to 'prepare' them, is there a piano in the room? You can start off by using things they're used to - lay down a simple pulse and have them add things to it. Some other ideas: -Having each class member add 1 sound or modification to the loop -teaching them how to layer rhythms (for example, in many rap songs, the 'snare' sound is a complex layering of several different sounds -teach them how to modify sounds once they're already in -borrow a drum kit or two for a class and hand a different element to each student for a session. -adding non-musical elements (like environmental recordings) and seeing how they become musical with repetition -show 'em some different techniques for playing found objects (the rubber ball on a stick for making groaning sounds, suspending silverware between styrofoam pieces, etc) Listening exercises - how do they make that sound? - How do the musical phrases change over the course of a song? - paying attention to when certain instruments are *not* playing - Dynamics! (I attended a great class one time that involved listening closely to the dynamic changes of "You lost that lovin' feeling".) Then, you can start bringing in the Steve Reich/Terry Riley ideas, and they'll probably think it's cool rather than old. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:16 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Hello Live Looper List! > > This is Margaret here, I chime in from time to time and am very much look= ing > forward to Y2K8 this October! > > In order addition to working as an artist, I teach high school. This is m= y > second year and my bread and butter, the good news is that I love my job.= I > am designated as the sound production and digital arts instructor. My sch= ool > is founded on project based learning, it is free to students and function= s > as a charter school. If you are curious about the school, here is the lin= k: > > http://www.hightechhigh.org/ > > So, why am I reaching out to you all? > > Basically, I have free reign with my curriculum. I am about to start a 10 > week class with a group of 25 tenth graders. I want to focus exclusively = on > sound, listening and musical movements (no visual content). I plan on > screening lots of documentaries and presenting listening exercises for > exposure and dialog. Additionally, I want to have morning group > improvisational exercises. Maybe 5 minutes or so of performance, then rec= ord > it and play it back to class. It assumed that most (maybe all) students > have absolutely no musical training thus the goal is to create exercises > where success is easy for the newbie. It is also assumed that these kids > definitely will have moments of shyness and/or pressure to be cool thus > anything that goes too far might be rejected. > > Here are some ideas I have for tools (suggestions, recommendations based = on > super low budget please): > > - Having the students craft very cheap tonal single notes from pipes for = a > tonal tool and having them create an atonal percussive instrument (like > shakers). > > - Sending an audio out from every classroom computer/midi controller to a > central mixer for computer based sounds improvisational exercises. > > Now exercises: this is where I need alot of help with: > > - I am thinking of hybrid versions of Steve Reich's =95 Music for 18 > Musicians > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGCZEckS5X94 > > And just to throw one more curve ball out when considering this course, I= am > no musical expert and have been getting by with production more than > musicianship for my work. > > Ok, so there it is! I am looking for your input on listening exercises > (musical and purely sound-art), instrument construction, improvisational > warm-ups and even performance or recording projects. > > Thanks for reading and I hope to hear from you all!!!!! > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 00:40:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27AD33BE87; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=OdOhll+2Jh1n8DV8DdhXuRQLgKFtMYaPzX6n1q1WCP4=; b=QGauQTwdTe6OmCpQGRdvPLZsnssmvAUKd+8BGE/0fPIFrx3cs/D/fwXTtCDHqdpkfK zvCWB5W5W5/2t+Jer6kX+MjYuPZsfSXwkL/TJmCvnjusK0MPyHBFNwAjDFNJIKh+KKiV Q2pObGVw6stSBLPgM37aIirwXIcmdFpUJq64I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=CItx6csAttajhU2Z4lOENlx++m7qSna70N67uqxiT3cMlT2ueazp+aXN1VWMuWtbuo RFfbmSOEm/4t4ILMpo5ALIlDor9kd8cgjAM1XcdJlByqQLUM/bH1epS95DMPqCKxf84p MYGNe+o/h6rEX9g3o2SIQhTirm5JVFGvxPbXc= Message-Id: <6D78F046-6D89-45DA-9987-EDAA3F602EA9@gmail.com> From: David Hayes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48AA0B10.8020006@gordius.be> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-31-281060461 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:40:28 -0700 References: <765668.54476.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <5F7CDA90-9549-46F9-A9DE-94C2FB538711@gmail.com> <001001c90189$a65363c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <48AA0B10.8020006@gordius.be> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: <-3xGiB.A.TzG.BahqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:40:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-31-281060461 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not sure what you're controlling (forgive me, just skimming these days) but since I don't see "MIDI" in the subject line I just have to mention the wireless USB footswitch that's pretty much become the hub of my set up. It goes straight to keystrokes, not midi. http://www.x-tempozone.com/ Don't know if that helps you but it's a super cool new USB footcontroller for sure and I love the thing. I think I love it because the editor makes it so simple to set up and change around whereas MIDI gives me headaches. So, I guess that's another question for you/everyone... which one comes with the easiest to use editor or what's the best editor, if you have to be stuck with MIDI instead of key strokes, that is. David. On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:51 PM, GORDIUS info wrote: > Coincidence... I was just emailing William Walker about this at this > very moment : the Little Giant is not USB-powered unfortunately. > I'll just copy-and-paste what I was explaining to Bill : > Main problem is that with the high brightness LEDs the LG draws more > current than what's allowed for a low-power USB device. The USB > protocol allows me to define the LG as a "high power" device which > can draw up to 500mA, but that would require the LG to go into some > kind of power saving mode (dimming all LEDs) whenever you try to > plug in the USB cable, and only go back to full power after the PC > has recognized the hardware correctly. My first prototype was USB > powered, without all this logic implemented, so I fried the internal > USB ports of my laptop, making it pretty unusable... that's when I > decided using USB power was not a bright idea for the > LittleGiant.... ;-) > > Jeff Duke wrote: >> >> How 'bout http://www.gordius.be/ the Gordius little giant? >> >> jEFF >> >> >>> >>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:40 AM, George Ludwig wrote: >>> >>>> It was entirely powered by the USB bus, and fed MIDI data to the >>>> computer via USB. >>> >>> >>> This one was on the LD recently: >>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy- >>> Pedal? sku=701180 >>> >>> uses midi phantom power, not usb though. >>> >>> >>> BobC >>> >>> >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/tynego >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus >>> Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 8/18/2008 5:39 PM >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > --Apple-Mail-31-281060461 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Not sure = what you're controlling (forgive me, just skimming these days) but since = I don't see "MIDI" in the subject line I just have to mention the = wireless USB footswitch that's pretty much become the hub of my set up. = It goes straight to keystrokes, not = midi. 

    =

    Don't know if that helps you but it's a super cool = new USB footcontroller for sure and I love the = thing. 

    I think I love it because the = editor makes it so simple to set up and change around whereas MIDI gives = me headaches. So, I guess that's another question for = you/everyone... which one comes with the easiest to use editor or what's = the best editor, if you have to be stuck with MIDI instead of key = strokes, that = is. 

    David.


    On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:51 PM, GORDIUS info wrote:

    Coincidence... I was just emailing William Walker = about this at this very moment : the Little Giant is not USB-powered = unfortunately. I'll just copy-and-paste what I was explaining to Bill : =
    Main problem is that with the high brightness LEDs the LG = draws more current than what's allowed for a low-power USB device. The = USB protocol allows me to define the LG as a "high power" device which = can draw up to 500mA, but that would require the LG to go into some kind = of power saving mode (dimming all LEDs) whenever you try to plug in the = USB cable, and only go back to full power after the PC has recognized = the hardware correctly. My first prototype was USB powered, without all = this logic implemented, so I fried the internal USB ports of my laptop, = making it pretty unusable... that's when I decided using USB power was = not a bright idea for the LittleGiant.... ;-)

    = Jeff Duke wrote:
    How 'bout http://www.gordius.be/ the Gordius = little giant?

    jEFF



    On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:40 AM, George Ludwig wrote: =

    It was entirely powered by the = USB bus, and fed MIDI data to the computer via USB.
    =


    This one was on the LD recently:
    = http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal= ? sku=3D701180

    uses midi phantom power, not usb though. =


    BobC



    http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j
    =
    http://www.youtube.com/tynego =


    No virus found in this incoming message.
    = Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / = Virus Database: 270.6.5/1619 - Release Date: 8/18/2008 5:39 PM
    =





    =

    = --Apple-Mail-31-281060461-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 00:41:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93F713BE86; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=F2Su2JLISUs5GXhAHuTctPwLCiKAKjhl+IDdnpIPHn4=; b=g+kHKRELC0jTaHwdQkhcrUywnFdzY7Ftuhyt9+Dp3Yo4gf6ppAnuyB1IhNKVVa9zIn 0t6sq8cDRhtG8oQqcrJQnoiJsd1Xa/WzwUfcrrYoRCmMQawjhUX9HOL/zSKAPoYfqW1T pwVW0M9KsJE3P1a/CvC+b84jhXiUM6sB00f/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=qcQuETbBw6RXABVko5L70Rqnk/qyvCObvkD8m+//8yFRVetATHSO5ueE/7N7xNcC6e mgM9MpdMiKkzJvTsndvJW9VKOp+XbSevQS/SoJf8RcZRzp59DCT134bxZYh+CLx/6R7T fF0ZgvVnnrw4mKlRQ9NvC+Fp1n73JuTw3YY8g= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:41:12 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <57120.8556.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Forgot to include this - several months ago I started making a list of all the decent instrumental hip hop albums I could find on emusic. The "Play" button gives you an mp3 playlist of 30 second samples. http://www.emusic.com/lists/showlist.html?lid=22148529&nickname=MDavignon&cs=1 They're not all great, but I'd say more than half have a lot of cool stuff in 'em. My favorite is "Oxstrumentals" by El-P. Matt On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hi Margaret, > > Hmmm, since you're working with 10th graders, why not apply these > ideas to instrumental hip hop? It's very loop-oriented, has a "use > what's available to you" aesthetic, and there's a good chance more of > your students will be into it. > > The musicians would engage in building phrases that repeat over the > course of a song, are musically understandable, but require careful > listening. > > It'd definitely be useful to get some sort of looping mechanism. It > sounds like an Ableton Live setup would be ideal, especially if you > have computers available to you. Then for the rest of the stuff, go > back to the roots - a cheap old turntable & cd player, various drums & > resonant objects, guitars with things to 'prepare' them, is there a > piano in the room? > > You can start off by using things they're used to - lay down a simple > pulse and have them add things to it. Some other ideas: > -Having each class member add 1 sound or modification to the loop > -teaching them how to layer rhythms (for example, in many rap songs, > the 'snare' sound is a complex layering of several different sounds > -teach them how to modify sounds once they're already in > -borrow a drum kit or two for a class and hand a different element to > each student for a session. > -adding non-musical elements (like environmental recordings) and > seeing how they become musical with repetition > -show 'em some different techniques for playing found objects (the > rubber ball on a stick for making groaning sounds, suspending > silverware between styrofoam pieces, etc) > > Listening exercises > - how do they make that sound? > - How do the musical phrases change over the course of a song? > - paying attention to when certain instruments are *not* playing > - Dynamics! (I attended a great class one time that involved listening > closely to the dynamic changes of "You lost that lovin' feeling".) > > Then, you can start bringing in the Steve Reich/Terry Riley ideas, and > they'll probably think it's cool rather than old. > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 01:10:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D00EA3BE86; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: tour vs Home and Cool USB foot controller Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:10:17 -0700 Message-ID: <004101c90198$5ad057f0$6701a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C9015D.AE717FF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckBmFeJCj2C2zo0QbSVFeEvRcIvZg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:10:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C9015D.AE717FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My tour rig to Europe ( and parden my redundancy if I have blabbed about this previously) was a custom Tele thineline guitar (very light weight), A Chinese made Gretsch lap steel with a TV jones Supertron Pickup , a boogie formula preamp, a TC electronics G-sharp (for verbs and delays) , a Looperlative, a Gordius LG, a Keeley compressor, two expression pedals, a volume pedal, a Digitech Fs3x to control the G sharp. And a dual footswitch for channel switching on the Boogie. The rig performed great, but I got a hefty upcharge for over weight on the one interconnect flight I took between Zurich and Istanbul. 20 extra pounds = 90 euro, ouch. I took this rig because I knew I was going to be recording and wanted the best direct sound I could get. I will know next time to either carry my rack stuff on the plane instead of packing it in my suitcase, Or , I may end up taking some kind of all- in -one modeling amp to lighten my load. I'm still resisting this idea because I still haven't found a modeler that doesn't end up sounding harsh and digital to my ears. Also one short coming I have found with most modeling amp/effects is that the reverbs usually suck and don't have much flexibility. But, I'm open to suggestions. Anyone tried the Digitech GSP1101, Boss GT-pro, the latest line 6 rack job, or even the latest vox Tonelab LE. Are they getting better at sounding and feeling better or am I barking up the wrong tree? Stanitarium, I already know what you are gonna say :-) At home I will augment this gear with the following stomp boxes. A radial big shot, Duncan twin tube classic (it is), Dunlop 95Q wah, Keeley loop selector, Duncan shape shifter tremolo, Ernie ball volume pedal, Line 6 DL-4, fulltone choraflange, and TC nova verb , and the following instruments. 2 custom strats, an Asher lap steel, Martin OM-18V, Martin 5-15 terz guitar, Pena flamenco, Renaissance RS-6, Weissenborn style 1, custom soprano strat. My nephews 75 Gibson Les Paul deluxe ( a chiropractor's wet dream )., and the following amps : BF Princeton reverb, Vox AC10 twin, late 70's vibrolux reverb. I have two pedatrainl pro pedal boards, one for my stomp boxes and one for my loop rig, I rarely take both boards to a gig Rarely used: Roland Gr30, and Electrix Repeater. As for USB/Midi foot controllers that can work for lap tops, the Gordius Little Giant is the Big Giant. It is more flexible than anything else I've seen on the market., and built better as well. I'm really happy with the feel and response of the switches, and the Expression pedal response is much smoother and more responsive than the FCB1010 ever was for me, (all three of them). I like that the two additional switch jacks allow me to have 12 presets without switching banks, and that I can use readily available light weight expression pedals like the Roland EV-5 for its two cc ports. I have yet to enter the world of lap top looping but the Gordius has such deep midi implementation that I don't think there is anything it can't do as far as controlling modeling amps, loopers or soft synths for that matter. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C9015D.AE717FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

      My tour rig to Europe ( and parden my = redundancy if I have blabbed about this previously) was a  custom Tele thineline = guitar (very light weight), A Chinese made Gretsch lap steel with a TV jones = Supertron Pickup , a boogie formula preamp, a TC electronics G-sharp (for verbs = and delays) , a Looperlative, a Gordius LG, a Keeley compressor, two = expression pedals, a volume pedal, a Digitech Fs3x to control the G sharp. And =  a  dual footswitch for channel switching on the Boogie. The rig performed great, = but I got a hefty upcharge for over weight on the one interconnect flight I = took between Zurich and Istanbul. 20 extra pounds =3D 90 = euro, ouch.  I took this rig because I knew I was going to be recording and wanted the = best direct sound I could get.  I will know next time to either carry my = rack stuff on the plane instead of packing it in my suitcase,  Or , I = may  end up taking some kind of all- in -one modeling amp to lighten my load. = I’m still resisting this idea because I still haven’t found a modeler = that doesn’t end up sounding harsh and digital to my ears. Also one = short coming I have found with most modeling amp/effects  is that the = reverbs usually suck and don’t have much flexibility. =

     But, I’m open to suggestions. Anyone = tried the Digitech GSP1101, Boss GT-pro, the latest line 6 rack job, or even the = latest vox Tonelab LE. Are they getting better at sounding and feeling better = or am I barking up the wrong tree? Stanitarium, I already know what you are = gonna say J

     At home I will augment this gear with the = following stomp boxes. A radial big shot, Duncan twin tube classic (it is), Dunlop = 95Q wah, Keeley loop selector, Duncan shape shifter tremolo, Ernie =  ball volume pedal, Line 6  DL-4, fulltone choraflange, and TC nova verb = , and the following instruments. 2 custom strats, an Asher lap steel, Martin = OM-18V, Martin 5-15 terz guitar, Pena flamenco, Renaissance RS-6, Weissenborn = style 1, custom soprano strat.  My nephews 75 Gibson Les Paul  deluxe ( = a chiropractor’s wet dream )., and  the following  amps : BF Princeton reverb, = Vox AC10 twin, late 70’s vibrolux reverb. I have two pedatrainl pro = pedal boards,  one for my stomp boxes and one for my loop rig, I rarely = take both boards to a gig

    Rarely used:  Roland Gr30, and Electrix = Repeater.

      As for USB/Midi foot  controllers =  that can work for lap tops,  the Gordius Little Giant is the Big Giant. It = is more flexible than anything else I’ve seen on the market., and built = better as well. I’m really happy with the feel and response of the switches, = and the Expression pedal response is much smoother and more responsive than = the FCB1010 ever was for me, (all three of them).  I like that the two = additional switch jacks allow me to have 12 presets without switching banks, and = that I can use readily available light weight expression pedals like the Roland = EV-5  for its two cc ports. I have yet to enter the world of lap top looping but = the Gordius has such deep midi implementation that I don’t think there = is anything it can’t do as far as controlling modeling amps, loopers = or soft synths for that matter.

    Bill

    ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C9015D.AE717FF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 02:04:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4FA83BE8D; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkIFAKfDqUhMRB6Y/2dsb2JhbACDRDiHcQGpegOBVQ Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" Subject: 08.20.08 > The PiNG's 9th Ann. w/ mara's torment, Pholde, Whisper Room & General Chaos Visuals Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:03:55 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000901c9019f$d62449a0$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:04:01 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THiS WEDNESDAY AUGUST 20th 2008 . THE AMBiENT PiNG's NiNTH ANNiVERSARY SPECiAL with mara's torment, PHOLDE, WHISPER ROOM and GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ The Central . 603 Markham St . 1 block from the Bathurst subway Map, info and directions at: http://www.thecentral.ca/info.php PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . For the PiNG's NiNTH ANNiVERSARY we're returning to the comfortable sociable space of The Central (just west & south of the Bathurst Subway Station beside Honest Ed's & Suspect Video. (BTW - besides their fine beers they also serve delicious meals.) Like past anniversary shows, we've invited some good friends who have played a large part in the PiNG's history to perform. The sonics will be provided by mara's torment (rik maclean from ping things - who we're sure will be deeply inspired by the mighty rains we've been having), PHOLDE (Alan Bloor aka KNURL - performing on metal soundsculptures) and Whisper Room (a new ambient/improv supergroup with guitarist Aidan Baker from Nadja & ARC, Neil Wiernik aka NAW on bass guitar and Jakob Thiesen from Students and The Reversibles on drum machine.) Of course it wouldn't be an anniversary show without the evolving light paintings of General Chaos Visuals, so we're very happy to have Stephen Lindsey + Eric Siegerman returning for their sixth PiNG anniversary show performance. mara's torment: http://www.marastorment.com Pholde: http://www.pholde.com Aidan Baker: http://www.myspace.com/aidanbakermusic Neil Wiernik: http://www.phoniq.net Jakob Thiesen: http://www.virb.com/students General Chaos Visuals: http://www.generalchaosvisuals.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 21st 2008 . THE PiNG presents TEXTURES a Special Sunday Afternoon Concert with dSU (dreamSTATE, Sylken & URM), Building Castles Out of Matchsticks, GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS and more special guests TBA soon. @ The Textile Museum of Canada . 55 Centre Avenue South of Dundas . East of University . Map, info & directions at: http://www.textilemuseum.ca/visit/map.cfm Doors open at 1.30pm . 1st set at 2:00 . $6 . For September, we're planning something a little different from our usual in-club PiNG shows as we return to the Textile Museum of Canada's Auditorium for a Sunday afternoon concert. Come on out and settle back into the comfy seats to enjoy the sonic and visual textures emanating from the stage. . There'll be soundscapes and sequencer-driven space music piloted by dSU [Eric Hopper (Sylken), Scott M2 (dreamSTATE) and Jamie Todd (dreamSTATE & URM)] building on their late 80's & early 90's electronic explorations together as Radio Silence. dreamSTATE - http://www.dreamstate.to Sylken - http://www.myspace.com/sylkenmusic URM - http://www.urm.ca . Queen of the robots, Anne Sulikowski will be Building Castles Out of Matchsticks as she coaxes lovely sonics from her synths while cooing and musing overtop exploring both extraordinary events and the simple pleasures and boredom of her everyday life. http://www.myspace.com/buildingcastlesoutofmatchsticks . The auditorium is a large space, so who better to fill it visually than General Chaos Visuals, who will be bringing out their full arsenal of projectors and light toys to turn the theatre and the performers into a canvas for their evolving light painting. http://www.generalchaosvisuals.com . We're not done yet though. We will be announcing more acts soon for this special event - so stay tuned for more details in the next PiNG email. If you can't wait, just keep checking the PiNG site as things will be posted as soon as they're confirmed. Special thanks go to Maurie Todd and the Textile Museum of Canada for helping us to make this happen. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ping things is proud to present its fourth net label release, "Land" by Nunc Stans is a brand new and exclusive digital EP. A stunning work that captures the sound of Nunc Stans at a turning point where drone-based sensibilities blend seamlessly with melodic work to create a stunning sonic environment for the listener to explore. Influenced by the stark beauty of Northern Canada, Kerby has created a set of aural landscapes that inspires and delights from the cold drones of opener "Before the Colors Deepened", through the sparse melodies and underlying urgency of "Journey of a Thousand Days", to closing track "Ice Field" with it's beautiful humming tones and found sounds. "Land" by Nunc Stans is available for free download as a 69Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality 256kbps mp3 format along with front cover and tray card art suitable for printing in both jpg and psd formats. The music on this release is copyright Anthony Paul Kerby, 2008 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission. If you like the work of Nunc Stans, check out Anthony Paul Kerby's website at http://www.dataobscura.com/apk where you'll be able to find out more about Kerby's work. New releases will be added to the ping things site on the 22nd of each month. In the coming months you'll be able to download exclusive work from Ortiz, NAW, Building Castles out of Matchsticks, Remora and more. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Check out the AMBiENT PiNG RADiO podcast. Currently posted are the ALMOST LiVE SERiES sets by Numina, MWVM, NAW, Panoramaroid, Remora, Resonant Drift, Salvagesound, and URM. Also posted are the ping things net label releases by Spatial Correlation (Les Landes), Phil Ogison (The Perfect City) and Andrew Duke (Aqua). http://www.ambientpingradio.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, chillout, trip hop, dream pop, downtempo, space, darkwave, drone and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com ViSiT ping things for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 02:16:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBD593BE8C; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> References: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-286813475 Message-Id: <3e4a73dc9fcfd3e7ad2f3bf7b7d809e6@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:16:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <_eR1n.A.67.6ziqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:16:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-286813475 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Rick, On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:35 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > In fact, it would be great to hear from others what there touring rig=20= > consists of > and what their 'play my hometown or withing shot of an automobile" rig=20= > would consist of. Well, of course, you know very well what my "touring" (LOL) rig is=20 'cause I've toted it from Loopstock in SLO, to Y2K2 thru 6 in Santa=20 Cruz , BEMFs 1 thru 3 in Boise, VNMF in Ventura and various other=20 points of interest and musical mayhem in between. I think for a brief time in there (2005?) I attempted to work with an=20 abbreviated setup but found it sort of unsatisfying. My pile o' gear used to inspire either hushed expressions of awe or=20 snide jeers of derision . . . alternately and in just about equal=20 numbers (seldom eliciting indifference) I decided not to play Y2K7 (last year) and came just as an attendee --=20= truthfully I'd gotten older and more feeble and my rack was too big to=20= handle any more. I've downsized considerably this past year going into 2008. Gone are the 20-space rack (full on one side and half full up the=20 back), multiple guitar cabs, guitar synths, processors, tone generators=20= and multiple boutique pedals and Xmas lights. Now I have just two 5-space rack-bags and some floor pedals to control=20= what's in them One bag has my guitar processors (VF-1, VG-99, 2 Vortexes, LXP-1 and=20 LXP-5) and a sub-mixer. The other has my loopers (2 Oberheim EDPs) and loop manglers (2 Alesis=20= Akiras) and another small sub-mixer. If the gig has no PA I can provide a pair of SRM450s on stands (which I=20= have set up at home in the garage). If it doesn't have the stereo stage monitoring I like (and require), I=20= have a pair of SRM150s on sawed-off mic stands (these have really=20 turned out quite handy despite their lack of bass response) so I can=20 hear myself well pretty doggone well. So, now, rather than have to manhandle a 200+ lb rack, 2 guitars,=20 pedals and cabs in about 7 trips to and from an ancient minivan I can=20 easily schlepp in all my current gear in 3 trips from the back of my=20 economy sedan and hardly break a sweat (if it's not too far and there=20 are no stairs . . . I am 55 and a bit overweight after all, LOL) . That's also if the house PA is adequate and I leave all the Mackies at=20= home. The wiring is a little complicated still (between pedals and the 2=20 bags) and setup time is still about the same, but there is less=20 "huffing and puffing," sweat and anxiety involved. Too, with GK pickups on my guitars and the VG-99 I only really need to=20= bring one guitar now. That one guitar can now be just about any other plucked-string acoustic=20= or electric instrument there is (plus sundry strange imaginary=20 instruments and noisemakers as well). When I get around to going Max/MSP on an iBook my rig will be smaller=20 still. But I've realized that I personally need to have a certain amount of=20 guitaristic tonal variety at my disposal for input (whether I use it or=20= not) to be a truly happy camper. I don't think I could be happy with just one kind of guitar sound going=20= in to a laptop - even if there are all sorts of plug-ins to tweak that=20= basic guitar sound in millions of ways. I want to start with a sound I know. That's just me. Best regards, tEd =AE KiLLiAn At almost regular intervals down the centuries someone will hit upon an=20= idea which has some claim to truth. It is then blown up into a system=20 which is thought to be capable of explaining everything. It is hailed=20 as a key to unlock every door. In each case the thinkers concerned were=20= so impressed with their particular insight that they built it into a=20 more-or-less rigid system which virtually destroyed its original=20 usefulness. If anything is to be learnt form the history of philosophy,=20= we should be cautious in embracing one set of philosophical ideas to=20 the exclusion of all others, and critical in our evaluation of all of=20 them. Just as no single human being has exhaustive knowledge of the=20 whole of reality, but may have partial and valid insights into this or=20= that field of experience, so no philosophy is all-embracing. Its=20 insights and methods are often tentative and provisional. It may have a=20= valid apprehension of this or that. Its methods may be fruitful in=20 exploring certain particular fields. But, if we are wise, we shall be=20 on our guard against definitive systems and allegedly omnipotent=20 methods of approach. =97 Colin Brown, former Dean of Studies at Trinity=20= College, Bristol, England http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes --Apple-Mail-1-286813475 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Rick, On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:35 AM, Rick Walker wrote: In fact, it would be great to hear from others what there touring rig consists of and what their 'play my hometown or withing shot of an automobile" rig would consist of. Well, of course, you know very well what my "touring" (LOL) rig is 'cause I've toted it from Loopstock in SLO, to Y2K2 thru 6 in Santa Cruz , BEMFs 1 thru 3 in Boise, VNMF in Ventura and various other points of interest and musical mayhem in between. I think for a brief time in there (2005?) I attempted to work with an abbreviated setup but found it sort of unsatisfying. My pile o' gear used to inspire either hushed expressions of awe or snide jeers of derision . . . alternately and in just about equal numbers (seldom eliciting indifference) I decided not to play Y2K7 (last year) and came just as an attendee -- truthfully I'd gotten older and more feeble and my rack was too big to handle any more. I've downsized considerably this past year going into 2008. Gone are the 20-space rack (full on one side and half full up the back), multiple guitar cabs, guitar synths, processors, tone generators and multiple boutique pedals and Xmas lights. Now I have just two 5-space rack-bags and some floor pedals to control what's in them One bag has my guitar processors (VF-1, VG-99, 2 Vortexes, LXP-1 and LXP-5) and a sub-mixer. The other has my loopers (2 Oberheim EDPs) and loop manglers (2 Alesis Akiras) and another small sub-mixer. If the gig has no PA I can provide a pair of SRM450s on stands (which I have set up at home in the garage). If it doesn't have the stereo stage monitoring I like (and require), I have a pair of SRM150s on sawed-off mic stands (these have really turned out quite handy despite their lack of bass response) so I can hear myself well pretty doggone well. So, now, rather than have to manhandle a 200+ lb rack, 2 guitars, pedals and cabs in about 7 trips to and from an ancient minivan I can easily schlepp in all my current gear in 3 trips from the back of my economy sedan and hardly break a sweat (if it's not too far and there are no stairs . . . I am 55 and a bit overweight after all, LOL) . That's also if the house PA is adequate and I leave all the Mackies at home. The wiring is a little complicated still (between pedals and the 2 bags) and setup time is still about the same, but there is less "huffing and puffing," sweat and anxiety involved. Too, with GK pickups on my guitars and the VG-99 I only really need to bring one guitar now. That one guitar can now be just about any other plucked-string acoustic or electric instrument there is (plus sundry strange imaginary instruments and noisemakers as well). When I get around to going Max/MSP on an iBook my rig will be smaller still. But I've realized that I personally need to have a certain amount of guitaristic tonal variety at my disposal for input (whether I use it or not) to be a truly happy camper. I don't think I could be happy with just one kind of guitar sound going in to a laptop - even if there are all sorts of plug-ins to tweak that basic guitar sound in millions of ways. I want to start with a sound I know. That's just me. Best regards, tEd =AE KiLLiAn 9999,9999,9999At almost regular intervals down the centuries someone will hit upon an idea which has some claim to truth. It is then blown up into a system which is thought to be capable of explaining everything. It is hailed as a key to unlock every door. In each case the thinkers concerned were so impressed with their particular insight that they built it into a more-or-less rigid system which virtually destroyed its original usefulness. If anything is to be learnt form the history of philosophy, we should be cautious in embracing one set of philosophical ideas to the exclusion of all others, and critical in our evaluation of all of them. Just as no single human being has exhaustive knowledge of the whole of reality, but may have partial and valid insights into this or that field of experience, so no philosophy is all-embracing. Its insights and methods are often tentative and provisional. It may have a valid apprehension of this or that. Its methods may be fruitful in exploring certain particular fields. But, if we are wise, we shall be on our guard against definitive systems and allegedly omnipotent methods of approach. =97 Colin Brown, former Dean of Studies at Trinity College, Bristol, England http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes = --Apple-Mail-1-286813475-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 02:25:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D0003BEA4; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:25:10 UTC X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 Message-ID: <010601c901a1$d8b2aac0$3e87fc04@mike> From: "mike meeker" To: Subject: digest Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:11:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C90176.F7C6A810" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:25:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C90176.F7C6A810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable digest ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C90176.F7C6A810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C90176.F7C6A810-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 03:48:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6AA83BEC7; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=n1vlEVtxuvMGUCaVPTHU29j6X5CzdmHWYAB2QAJZ0rqI5zKUE9V7rsV5R50+nLfMbeycpfUsSG6l+osa/WyYqOdEAjongGNQQj9dIiRvkwoLe0gQ0hxUTKFtBlad5+pH1I3U5htjdq35okjrleczurizb6gE5eQNiod3ZMBdYkM=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:48:56 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1744597642-1219117736=:87281" Message-ID: <313396.87281.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6sHnzC.A.L2H.pKkqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:48:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-1744597642-1219117736=:87281 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for your fun and helpful input!!!!!!=0A=0A http://margaretnoble.net/= =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Richard Sales =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Saturday, Augu= st 16, 2008 5:35:05 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisati= onal ideas and skills for my classroom!=0A=0AHi Margaret=0A=0AI'm in one of= those odd blips where I have some time and your query =0Asparked my motor = so...=0A=0AI think the human voice is the ultimate axe. Anyone can make vo= cal =0Asound. It can be anything from grunts to singing to noises etc.=0A= =0AIf you have digital editing capacity you can fiddle with pitch, =0Arever= sing, cutting words up, making harmony...=0A=0AHave kids make the sound of = moods, colors, planets and stars etc. =0AExpress being a kid like never be= fore!=0A=0AI know from my studio that it ALWAYS blows kids minds when you d= o a =0Alittle voice blip and then scratch it rap style or mangle it.=0A=0AV= oices are cheap and the ultimate tool of expression=0A=0AHave groups make g= roup sounds.=0A=0ABack in the 60's there was a big movement - I think calle= d 'treated =0Avoices' that was REALLY COOL with voices doing non voice like= things. =0AIt was very experimental stuff. Some of the college jazz aca= pella =0Achoirs are now doing stuff like that and it's very cool. And it's= very =0Apopular in those schools too.=0A=0AYou could create a drum bed and= sync the voice / noises to the beat.=0A=0AYou could, of course, do the dru= ms with the voice.=0A=0AI like it because it would be relatively easy to do= and bring fairly =0Aimmediate results.=0A=0ADo an opera! Obviously, NOT M= ozart or Hair. An arty opera. Just =0Athinking out loud.=0A=0AThe first b= arrier will be them wanting to sing pop songs. But that =0Acould be turned= around too.=0A=0AOkay... I gotta get back to work. I hope I've understood = your quest.... =0Abut it sounds like some kind of product might be a good g= oal.=0A=0AA CD at the end of ten weeks?=0A=0Aall the beast=0A=0Arichard sal= es=0AglassWing farm and studio=0Avancouver island, b.c.=0Awww.glassWing.com= www.richardsales.com=0Awww.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com=0Awww= .blueberryfieldsfarm.com=0Awww.broombusters.org=0AOn 16-Aug-08, at 12:16 PM= , margaret noble wrote:=0A=0A> Hello Live Looper List!=0A>=0A> This is Marg= aret here, I chime in from time to time and am very much =0A> looking forwa= rd to Y2K8 this October!=0A>=0A> In order addition to working as an artist,= I teach high school. This =0A> is my second year and my bread and butter, = the good news is that I =0A> love my job. I am designated as the sound prod= uction and digital arts =0A> instructor. My school is founded on project ba= sed learning, it is free =0A> to students and functions as a charter school= . If you are curious =0A> about the school, here is the link:=0A>=0A> http:= //www.hightechhigh.org/=0A>=0A> So, why am I reaching out to you all?=0A>= =0A> Basically, I have free reign with my curriculum. I am about to start a= =0A> 10 week class with a group of 25 tenth graders. I want to focus =0A> = exclusively on sound, listening and musical movements (no visual =0A> conte= nt). I plan on screening lots of documentaries and presenting =0A> listenin= g exercises for exposure and dialog. Additionally, I want to =0A> have morn= ing group improvisational exercises. Maybe 5 minutes or so of =0A> performa= nce, then record it and play it back to class. It assumed that =0A> most (= maybe all) students have absolutely no musical training thus =0A> the goal = is to create exercises where success is easy for the newbie. =0A> It is als= o assumed that these kids definitely will have moments of =0A> shyness and/= or pressure to be cool thus anything that goes too far =0A> might be rejec= ted.=0A>=0A> Here are some ideas I have for tools (suggestions, recommendat= ions =0A> based on super low budget please):=0A>=0A> - Having the students = craft very cheap tonal single notes from pipes =0A> for a tonal tool and ha= ving them create an atonal percussive =0A> instrument (like shakers).=0A>= =0A> - Sending an audio out from every classroom computer/midi controller = =0A> to a central mixer for computer based sounds improvisational =0A> exer= cises.=0A>=0A> Now exercises: this is where I need alot of help with:=0A>= =0A> - I am thinking of hybrid versions of Steve Reich's =95 Music for 18 = =0A> Musicians=0A>=0A> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGCZEckS5X94=0A>=0A>= And just to throw one more curve ball out when considering this =0A> cours= e, I am no musical expert and have been getting by with =0A> production mo= re than musicianship for my work.=0A>=0A> Ok, so there it is! I am looking = for your input on listening exercises =0A> (musical and purely sound-art), = instrument construction, =0A> improvisational warm-ups and even performance= or recording projects.=0A>=0A> Thanks for reading and I hope to hear from = you all!!!!!=0A>=0A> http://margaretnoble.net/=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A = --0-1744597642-1219117736=:87281 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    thanks for your fun and helpful input!!!!!!
     
    http://= margaretnoble.net/


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Rich= ard Sales <richard@glasswing.com>
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
    Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 5:35:05 PM
    Subject: Re: Tappi= ng into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom!
    =
    =0AHi Margaret

    I'm in one of those odd blips where I have some t= ime and your query
    sparked my motor so...

    I think the human voic= e is the ultimate axe.  Anyone can make vocal
    sound.  It can = be anything from grunts to singing to noises etc.

    If you have digita= l editing capacity you can fiddle with pitch,
    reversing, cutting words = up, making harmony...

    Have kids make the sound of moods, colors, pla= nets and stars etc. 
    Express being a kid like never before!
    I know from my studio that it ALWAYS blows kids minds when you do a
    li= ttle voice blip and then scratch it rap style or mangle it.

    Voices a= re cheap and the ultimate tool of expression

    Have groups make group = sounds.

    Back in the 60's there was a big movement - I think called '= treated
    voices' that was REALLY COOL with voices doing non voice like t= hings. 
    It was very experimental stuff.  Some of the college jazz acapella
    choirs are now doing stuff like that and it's ve= ry cool.  And it's very
    popular in those schools too.

    You c= ould create a drum bed and sync the voice / noises to the beat.

    You = could, of course, do the drums with the voice.

    I like it because it = would be relatively easy to do and bring fairly
    immediate results.
    <= br>Do an opera!  Obviously, NOT Mozart or Hair.  An arty opera.&n= bsp; Just
    thinking out loud.

    The first barrier will be them want= ing to sing pop songs.  But that
    could be turned around too.
    Okay... I gotta get back to work. I hope I've understood your quest.... <= br>but it sounds like some kind of product might be a good goal.

    A C= D at the end of ten weeks?

    all the beast

    richard sales
    gla= ssWing farm and studio
    vancouver island, b.c.
    www.glassWing.com    www.richardsales.co= m
    www.hayle= ysales.com    www.joannesales.com
    www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
    www.broombusters.org
    O= n 16-Aug-08, at 12:16 PM, margaret noble wrote:

    > Hello Live Loop= er List!
    >
    > This is Margaret here, I chime in from time to tim= e and am very much
    > looking forward to Y2K8 this October!
    >> In order addition to working as an artist, I teach high school. This=
    > is my second year and my bread and butter, the good news is that = I
    > love my job. I am designated as the sound production and digital= arts
    > instructor. My school is founded on project based learning, = it is free
    > to students and functions as a charter school. If you are curious=
    > about the school, here is the link:
    >
    > http://www.hightechhigh.org/<= /a>
    >
    > So, why am I reaching out to you all?
    >
    > B= asically, I have free reign with my curriculum. I am about to start a
    &= gt; 10 week class with a group of 25 tenth graders. I want to focus
    >= ; exclusively on sound, listening and musical movements (no visual
    >= content). I plan on screening lots of documentaries and presenting
    >= ; listening exercises for exposure and dialog. Additionally, I want to
    = > have morning group improvisational exercises. Maybe 5 minutes or so of=
    > performance, then record it and play it back to class. It assumed= that
    > most  (maybe all) students have absolutely no musical t= raining thus
    > the goal is to create exercises where success is easy for the newbie.
    > It is also assumed that these kids definitel= y will have moments of
    > shyness and/or pressure to be cool thus&nbs= p; anything that goes too far
    > might be rejected.
    >
    > H= ere are some ideas I have for tools (suggestions, recommendations
    > = based on super low budget please):
    >
    > - Having the students cr= aft very cheap tonal single notes from pipes
    > for a tonal tool and = having them create an atonal percussive
    > instrument (like shakers).=
    >
    > - Sending an audio out from every classroom computer/midi = controller
    > to a central mixer for computer based sounds improvisat= ional
    > exercises.
    >
    > Now exercises: this is where I ne= ed alot of help with:
    >
    > - I am  thinking of hybrid versi= ons of Steve Reich's =95 Music for 18
    > Musicians
    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGCZEckS5X94
    >=
    > And just to throw one more curve ball out when considering this > course, I am no musical expert and have been getting by  with <= br>> production more than musicianship for my work.
    >
    > Ok, = so there it is! I am looking for your input on listening exercises
    >= (musical and purely sound-art), instrument construction,
    > improvis= ational warm-ups and even performance or recording projects.
    >
    >= ; Thanks for reading and I hope to hear from you all!!!!!
    >
    > <= a href=3D"http://margaretnoble.net/" target=3D"_blank">http://margaretnoble= .net/
    >
    >
    >
    >

    =0A=0A = --0-1744597642-1219117736=:87281-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 03:50:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB1673BEDC; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=QSor2k0CwBxJdVw4q30UYGTDaDVN7NGoCLz5ak41dw2GSChwM+5hvEJsCr/ydB4Hk4otS0F+70R7QNyDZ/1qY6C+w1nzEAauq3E9ftmUv9vCspD9rKINysAynrwGQmwHxXy7RnpCPQJo6XkT8lcze3nZOGz8CnY3UppKcgI0Bdk=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:50:49 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1293189537-1219117849=:85595" Message-ID: <753794.85595.qm@web81004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:50:50 +0000 (UTC) --0-1293189537-1219117849=:85595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thank you for your fun and helpful reply! http://margaretnoble.net/ ----- Original Message ---- From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 6:47:55 PM Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! On Aug 16, 2008, at 12:16 PM, margaret noble wrote: > I want to focus exclusively on sound, listening and musical > movements (no visual content). I plan on screening lots of > documentaries and presenting listening exercises for exposure and > dialog. It is interesting that the words "no visual content" are immediately followed by "screening lots of documentaries." :-) > It assumed that most (maybe all) students have absolutely no > musical training thus the goal is to create exercises where success > is easy for the newbie. snip.... > Ok, so there it is! I am looking for your input on listening > exercises (musical and purely sound-art), instrument construction, > improvisational warm-ups and even performance or recording projects. I would recommend multiple listens to "Heart of the Forest" the music of the Baka from Cameroon. They make music with water splashes. Beautiful use of rustic sound sources but not primitive music. Very accessible. Also, listen to Balinese Gamelan then listen to John Cage prepared piano music. I would keep things simple, maybe exploring ostinato - short repetitive rhythmic figures (loops!) - that can be used as building blocks. Pass an ostinato from person to person or group to group. Vary ostinato person to person, etc. Then explore "call and response" as an approach to structure. Two other good places to ask your questions: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/oddmusic/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/junkmusic/ regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego --0-1293189537-1219117849=:85595 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
    thank you for your fun and helpful reply!
     
    http://margaretnoble.net/


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com>
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 6:47:55 PM
    Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom!


    On Aug 16, 2008, at 12:16 PM, margaret noble wrote:

    >  I want to focus exclusively on sound, listening and musical 
    > movements (no visual content). I plan on screening lots of 
    > documentaries and presenting listening exercises for exposure and 
    > dialog.

    It is interesting that the words "no visual content" are immediately 
    followed by "screening lots of documentaries."
    :-)


    >  It assumed that most  (maybe all) students have absolutely no 
    > musical training thus the goal is to create exercises where success 
    > is easy for the newbie.

    snip....

    > Ok, so there it is! I am looking for your input on listening 
    > exercises (musical and purely sound-art), instrument construction, 
    > improvisational warm-ups and even performance or recording projects.


    I would recommend multiple listens to "Heart of the Forest" the music 
    of the Baka from Cameroon. They make music with water splashes.
    Beautiful use of rustic sound sources but not primitive music.
    Very accessible.

    Also, listen to Balinese Gamelan then listen to John Cage prepared 
    piano music.

    I would keep things simple, maybe exploring ostinato - short 
    repetitive rhythmic figures (loops!) - that can be used as building 
    blocks.
    Pass an ostinato from person to person or group to group. Vary 
    ostinato person to person, etc.

    Then explore "call and response" as an approach to structure.


    Two other good places to ask your questions:

    http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/oddmusic/

    http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/junkmusic/


    regards

    BobC


    http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j

    http://www.youtube.com/tynego


    --0-1293189537-1219117849=:85595-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 03:52:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EB9E3BEF0; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=OEXECWhbMvI095zgl60GrQ6Zv5cofJN6VdAJKxOsCWVVUtQt2mk9yn7p7v05KndZp19HHXmbxWhFFYBjMIsAPzgcUyUQRxCMGBT6ras1kdsHmoq1ZK5Lif/+wzqmoN5bWrmRJ3DVsM1ztXHJjt90eUR4lrfFjUTRdknf6zw2cDw=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-24469705-1219117963=:90994" Message-ID: <939543.90994.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:52:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-24469705-1219117963=:90994 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thanks very much for your insight and recs!!!!! http://margaretnoble.net/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Ed Drake To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:02:37 PM Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! OOOOppps!!!!! Sorry for the last email I got distracted by a phone call and hit the send button before I meant to, I was going to edit out the original post so it wasn't so huge. A couple of books that have great stories and observations and some listening exercises are The Listening Book and The Musical Life both by W A Mathieu. Other books: Sound and Structure by John Paynter and Composing Music by Willian Russo Other thoughts I had were using PVC pipe to make instruments including a didgeridoo using beeswax for the mouth piece. http:// www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Didgeridoo-out-of-PVC-Pipe Experiment with drones and ostinato. I'll probably think of more later. --0-24469705-1219117963=:90994 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
    thanks very much for your insight and recs!!!!!
     
    http://margaretnoble.net/


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Ed Drake <eddrake1@comcast.net>
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:02:37 PM
    Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom!

    OOOOppps!!!!!  Sorry for the last email I got distracted by a phone 
    call and hit the send button before I meant to, I was going to edit 
    out the original post so it wasn't so huge.

    A couple of books that have great stories and observations and some 
    listening exercises are The Listening Book and The Musical Life both 
    by W A Mathieu.

    Other books: Sound and Structure by John Paynter and Composing Music 
    by Willian Russo

    Other thoughts I had were using PVC pipe to make instruments 
    including a didgeridoo using beeswax for the mouth piece. http://
    www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Didgeridoo-out-of-PVC-Pipe

    Experiment with drones and ostinato.

    I'll probably think of more later.




    --0-24469705-1219117963=:90994-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 04:07:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B514D3BEFF; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=vIo+ZyEE98PUIcslTtb5phDKvXcX9Nv+SRFRrw7MklQ/Rg607UeuDENkkDPO+rpX+3j5EzAfr2LH/Q7WGM5rQIKON56PhmU2yk8HTPPtDTCsN4eZzdYN25F6se7FpD5QPlWVSN7ocDN3l4cb/RpNX5k06/0XH+ByA40wOKOMYUY=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:07:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: Repeater CFC Campaign: Update To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-209345240-1219118869=:63294" Message-ID: <161415.63294.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:07:50 +0000 (UTC) --0-209345240-1219118869=:63294 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi again all, Here is a follow up message from Esserband, concerning the idea of the CFCs for Repeater Campaign he mentioned over on the Repeater User's Group last week. Wanted to forward it in case there are Repeater Users here who aren't on that list. Best, David Here's Esserband's message ... here is an email I got yesterday: Hi, There are 20 pc of the 256 MB CF. There will be no more produced and we've just learned that the factory will not make any more 512 MB CF, so there goes that idea... Regards, Bruce MacWhirter, Tima Tec --0-209345240-1219118869=:63294 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi again all,

    Here is a follow up me= ssage from Esserband, concerning the idea of the CFCs for Repeater Campaign= he mentioned over on the Repeater User's Group last week. =A0Wanted to for= ward it in case there are Repeater Users here who aren't on that list.

    Best,

    David

    Here's Esserband's message ...

    here is an email I got yesterday:

    Hi,

    There are 20 pc of= the 256 MB CF. There will be no more produced and
    we've just learned th= at the factory will not make any more 512 MB CF,
    so there goes that idea= ...

    Regards,

    Bruce MacWhirter, Tima Tec

    =0A=0A=0A=0A --0-209345240-1219118869=:63294-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 04:18:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E601A3BF0A; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=jDZQYaeYG3Guh/s5hfQXW13mLkfzklm9gGIPMJaslFF5Zhe/NZjpVULu1FKItZfqjxMZiFRUOk77z9YzggpNSTDKxGTv3GHU1uFk6Biyv0J/n/rfnCv91UPBz5SOv3W6dNR/UOrzkD/by/qk0TtAD24bdnaViJmGNnrdN7tUZo4=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:18:04 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-985832832-1219119484=:10409" Message-ID: <642781.10409.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <10mCkB.A.QRC.9lkqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:18:05 +0000 (UTC) --0-985832832-1219119484=:10409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thank you so much!!!!!!!!=0A=0A http://margaretnoble.net/=0A=0A=0A=0A----- = Original Message ----=0AFrom: Sean Murphy =0ATo: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:44:45 PM=0AS= ubject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for = my classroom!=0A=0A =0AHi Margaret,=0A =0ASome great instrument making reso= urces that you may want to=0Acheck out: Sound Designs by Reinhold Banek & = Jon Scoville & Musical=0AInstrument Design by Bart Hopkin (this is the best= reference book on=0Ainstrument design I=A2ve ever seen). Also, check out = http://windworld.com/, this is the home of the=0Ainfamous magazine Experime= ntal Musical Instruments. Bart Hopkins runs the page=0Aand he=A2s got some= great resources available and you can get a CD-ROM (or=0Aphotocopies) of a= ll the magazines. I seem to recall a few great articles on teachers=0Awork= ing with children creating homemade and found sound instruments. =0A =0AYo= u might want to check out the Kennedy Center site for=0Aideas/lessons, http= ://artsedge.kennedy-center.org/. =0A =0AHope this helps!=0ASean=0AMurphy= =0ABeing:Art=0ALLC=0Asean@beingart.com=0A901.292.4961=0Ahttp://beingart.com= =0A=0A=0A --0-985832832-1219119484=:10409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    thank you so much!!!!!!!!
     
    http://margaretnoble.net/=


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Sean Murphy = <sean@beingart.com>
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Sen= t: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:44:45 PM
    Subject: Re: Tapping into your mus= ical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom!

    =0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
    =0A=0A

    Hi Margaret,

    =0A=0A

     

    =0A=0A

    Some great instrume= nt making resources that you may want to=0Acheck out:  Sound Design= s by Reinhold Banek & Jon Scoville & Musical=0AInstrument De= sign by Bart Hopkin (this is the best reference book on=0Ainstrument de= sign I=A2ve ever seen).  Also, check out http://windworld.com/, this is = the home of the=0Ainfamous magazine Experimental Musical Instruments. = Bart Hopkins runs the page=0Aand he=A2s got some great resources available= and you can get a CD-ROM (or=0Aphotocopies) of all the magazines.  I = seem to recall a few great articles on teachers=0Aworking with children cre= ating homemade and found sound instruments. 

    =0A=0A

     

    =0A=0A

    You might want to check o= ut the Kennedy Center site for=0Aideas/lessons, http://artsedge.ke= nnedy-center.org/. =0A

    =0A=0A

      =0A=0A

    Hope this helps!

    =0A=0A

    Sean=0AMurphy

    =0A=0A

    Being:Art=0ALLC

    =0A=0A

    sean@be= ingart.com

    =0A=0A

    http://beingart.com

    =0A=0A

     

    =0A=0A

     

    =0A=0A<= /div>=0A=0A

    =0A=0A --0-985832832-1219119484=:10409-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 04:19:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDABA3BF13; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=a4Su/jCv8+Zph6zIiMoR0lvKU89617kcuD1RHseuhtZnJecl1LMy36WweU5bgGryAagDaIUMKGrRAOqZa6nNThgns1Eynz4OF42uHntXtq3XC0IvtvWNyzjIB29jcyjQqa4NAc4Aj4opYfMvYurrNbKH1p0An4dLY+kcac2kXy0=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:19:38 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-381881605-1219119578=:70671" Message-ID: <338842.70671.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:19:40 +0000 (UTC) --0-381881605-1219119578=:70671 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great ideas, thanks so much!!!!!=0A=0A http://margaretnoble.net/=0A=0A=0A= =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Matt Davignon =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Monday, August 18, 200= 8 5:29:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas= and skills for my classroom!=0A=0AHi Margaret,=0A=0AHmmm, since you're wor= king with 10th graders, why not apply these=0Aideas to instrumental hip hop= ? It's very loop-oriented, has a "use=0Awhat's available to you" aesthetic,= and there's a good chance more of=0Ayour students will be into it.=0A=0ATh= e musicians would engage in building phrases that repeat over the=0Acourse = of a song, are musically understandable, but require careful=0Alistening.= =0A=0AIt'd definitely be useful to get some sort of looping mechanism. It= =0Asounds like an Ableton Live setup would be ideal, especially if you=0Aha= ve computers available to you. Then for the rest of the stuff, go=0Aback to= the roots - a cheap old turntable & cd player, various drums &=0Aresonant = objects, guitars with things to 'prepare' them, is there a=0Apiano in the r= oom?=0A=0AYou can start off by using things they're used to - lay down a si= mple=0Apulse and have them add things to it. Some other ideas:=0A-Having ea= ch class member add 1 sound or modification to the loop=0A-teaching them ho= w to layer rhythms (for example, in many rap songs,=0Athe 'snare' sound is = a complex layering of several different sounds=0A-teach them how to modify = sounds once they're already in=0A-borrow a drum kit or two for a class and = hand a different element to=0Aeach student for a session.=0A-adding non-mus= ical elements (like environmental recordings) and=0Aseeing how they become = musical with repetition=0A-show 'em some different techniques for playing f= ound objects (the=0Arubber ball on a stick for making groaning sounds, susp= ending=0Asilverware between styrofoam pieces, etc)=0A=0AListening exercises= =0A- how do they make that sound?=0A- How do the musical phrases change ove= r the course of a song?=0A- paying attention to when certain instruments ar= e *not* playing=0A- Dynamics! (I attended a great class one time that invol= ved listening=0Aclosely to the dynamic changes of "You lost that lovin' fee= ling".)=0A=0AThen, you can start bringing in the Steve Reich/Terry Riley id= eas, and=0Athey'll probably think it's cool rather than old.=0A=0AMatt Davi= gnon=0Awww.ribosomemusic.com=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:16 PM, marg= aret noble=0A wrote:=0A> Hello Live Looper Lis= t!=0A>=0A> This is Margaret here, I chime in from time to time and am very = much looking=0A> forward to Y2K8 this October!=0A>=0A> In order addition to= working as an artist, I teach high school. This is my=0A> second year and = my bread and butter, the good news is that I love my job. I=0A> am designat= ed as the sound production and digital arts instructor. My school=0A> is fo= unded on project based learning, it is free to students and functions=0A> a= s a charter school. If you are curious about the school, here is the link:= =0A>=0A> http://www.hightechhigh.org/=0A>=0A> So, why am I reaching out to = you all?=0A>=0A> Basically, I have free reign with my curriculum. I am abou= t to start a 10=0A> week class with a group of 25 tenth graders. I want to = focus exclusively on=0A> sound, listening and musical movements (no visual = content). I plan on=0A> screening lots of documentaries and presenting list= ening exercises for=0A> exposure and dialog. Additionally, I want to have m= orning group=0A> improvisational exercises. Maybe 5 minutes or so of perfor= mance, then record=0A> it and play it back to class. It assumed that most = (maybe all) students=0A> have absolutely no musical training thus the goal = is to create exercises=0A> where success is easy for the newbie. It is also= assumed that these kids=0A> definitely will have moments of shyness and/or= pressure to be cool thus=0A> anything that goes too far might be rejected.= =0A>=0A> Here are some ideas I have for tools (suggestions, recommendations= based on=0A> super low budget please):=0A>=0A> - Having the students craft= very cheap tonal single notes from pipes for a=0A> tonal tool and having t= hem create an atonal percussive instrument (like=0A> shakers).=0A>=0A> - Se= nding an audio out from every classroom computer/midi controller to a=0A> c= entral mixer for computer based sounds improvisational exercises.=0A>=0A> N= ow exercises: this is where I need alot of help with:=0A>=0A> - I am think= ing of hybrid versions of Steve Reich's =95 Music for 18=0A> Musicians=0A>= =0A> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGCZEckS5X94=0A>=0A> And just to throw= one more curve ball out when considering this course, I am=0A> no musical = expert and have been getting by with production more than=0A> musicianship= for my work.=0A>=0A> Ok, so there it is! I am looking for your input on li= stening exercises=0A> (musical and purely sound-art), instrument constructi= on, improvisational=0A> warm-ups and even performance or recording projects= .=0A>=0A> Thanks for reading and I hope to hear from you all!!!!!=0A>=0A> h= ttp://margaretnoble.net/=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A --0-381881605-1219119578=:70671 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    great ideas, thanks so much!!!!!
     
    http://margaretnob= le.net/


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Matt Davignon &= lt;mattdavignon@gmail.com>
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comSent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:29:07 PM
    Subject: Re: Tapping into your= musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom!

    =0AHi Ma= rgaret,

    Hmmm, since you're working with 10th graders, why not apply = these
    ideas to instrumental hip hop? It's very loop-oriented, has a "use=
    what's available to you" aesthetic, and there's a good chance more ofyour students will be into it.

    The musicians would engage in build= ing phrases that repeat over the
    course of a song, are musically underst= andable, but require careful
    listening.

    It'd definitely be useful= to get some sort of looping mechanism. It
    sounds like an Ableton Live s= etup would be ideal, especially if you
    have computers available to you. = Then for the rest of the stuff, go
    back to the roots - a cheap old turnt= able & cd player, various drums &
    resonant objects, guitars with= things to 'prepare' them, is there a
    piano in the room?

    You can = start off by using things they're used to - lay down a simple
    pulse and = have them add things to it. Some other ideas:
    -Having each class member add 1 sound or modification to the loop
    -teaching them how= to layer rhythms (for example, in many rap songs,
    the 'snare' sound is = a complex layering of several different sounds
    -teach them how to modify= sounds once they're already in
    -borrow a drum kit or two for a class an= d hand a different element to
    each student for a session.
    -adding non= -musical elements (like environmental recordings) and
    seeing how they be= come musical with repetition
    -show 'em some different techniques for pla= ying found objects (the
    rubber ball on a stick for making groaning sound= s, suspending
    silverware between styrofoam pieces, etc)

    Listening= exercises
    - how do they make that sound?
    - How do the musical phrase= s change over the course of a song?
    - paying attention to when certain i= nstruments are *not* playing
    - Dynamics! (I attended a great class one t= ime that involved listening
    closely to the dynamic changes of "You lost that lovin' feeling".)

    Then, you can start bringing in th= e Steve Reich/Terry Riley ideas, and
    they'll probably think it's cool ra= ther than old.

    Matt Davignon
    www.ribosomemusic.com


    On Sat, Aug 16,= 2008 at 12:16 PM, margaret noble
    <margaretnoble20= 00@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > Hello Live Looper List!
    >
    >= This is Margaret here, I chime in from time to time and am very much looki= ng
    > forward to Y2K8 this October!
    >
    > In order addition = to working as an artist, I teach high school. This is my
    > second yea= r and my bread and butter, the good news is that I love my job. I
    > a= m designated as the sound production and digital arts instructor. My school=
    > is founded on project based learning, it is free to students and functions
    > as a charter school. If you are curious about the school= , here is the link:
    >
    > http://www.hightechhigh.org/
    >
    > So, wh= y am I reaching out to you all?
    >
    > Basically, I have free reig= n with my curriculum. I am about to start a 10
    > week class with a gr= oup of 25 tenth graders. I want to focus exclusively on
    > sound, list= ening and musical movements (no visual content). I plan on
    > screenin= g lots of documentaries and presenting listening exercises for
    > expo= sure and dialog. Additionally, I want to have morning group
    > improvi= sational exercises. Maybe 5 minutes or so of performance, then record
    &g= t; it and play it back to class. It assumed that most  (maybe all) stu= dents
    > have absolutely no musical training thus the goal is to creat= e exercises
    > where success is easy for the newbie. It is also assumed that these kids
    > definitely will have moments of shyness an= d/or pressure to be cool thus
    > anything that goes too far might be r= ejected.
    >
    > Here are some ideas I have for tools (suggestions,= recommendations based on
    > super low budget please):
    >
    >= - Having the students craft very cheap tonal single notes from pipes for a=
    > tonal tool and having them create an atonal percussive instrument = (like
    > shakers).
    >
    > - Sending an audio out from every c= lassroom computer/midi controller to a
    > central mixer for computer b= ased sounds improvisational exercises.
    >
    > Now exercises: this = is where I need alot of help with:
    >
    > - I am  thinking of= hybrid versions of Steve Reich's =95 Music for 18
    > Musicians
    >= ;
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGCZEckS5X94
    >
    >= ; And just to throw one more curve ball out when considering this course, I = am
    > no musical expert and have been getting by  with production= more than
    > musicianship for my work.
    >
    > Ok, so there i= t is! I am looking for your input on listening exercises
    > (musical a= nd purely sound-art), instrument construction, improvisational
    > warm= -ups and even performance or recording projects.
    >
    > Thanks for= reading and I hope to hear from you all!!!!!
    >
    > http://margaretnoble.net/>
    >
    >
    >


    =0A=0A --0-381881605-1219119578=:70671-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 05:06:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D0ED3BECF; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:06:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: "Matthew F. McCabe" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <000301c90184$ab2836a0$0178a3e0$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5B108) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5B108) Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:06:34 -0700 References: <000301c90184$ab2836a0$0178a3e0$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:06:51 +0000 (UTC) I really dig my Analog Man CompRossor...lots of vibe. --- King Never www.kingnever.com On Aug 18, 2008, at 3:49 PM, "Ricky Graham" wrote: > Specifically the guitarists amongst you. In your own experience, > what works well? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Ricky Graham > > info@rickygraham.net > > +44(0)7743537349 > > > > www.rickygraham.net > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 05:07:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7B073BEE7; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <52A0805F-38A4-4F9C-8910-F7571E445AFE@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4759e5740808181540l1cb88254t9a805dd666ca573@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:07:06 -0700 References: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <4759e5740808181540l1cb88254t9a805dd666ca573@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Resent-Message-ID: <2MctFB.A.beF.8TlqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:07:08 +0000 (UTC) My rigs differ from the standpoint that my home rig is generally packed up to protect it from the three year old while my touring rig actually gets played. I'm contemplating a smaller touring rig now that I'm further from Santa Cruz. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 07:33:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F19683BE94; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=IHLIP3Li/ftNsZjtf06C11P2QZHJh00zm1r88G8873Y=; b=ReJxiABcMFKa6+fHj7jXpsuREpvRNgNSDiwam5HdCwxk2w/SlD+hfhn6WfSieVrN1n +Doz5p5WXL696IdBmoJl6LlnRFYG1itR/szIIiizguy1NGzmkTpRGXdaOd5tNBaSCIOO yz3TTsp+eu80ejjHJ2jNzlv9cQlp6IP9eeE/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=FeNUCMwDsaD/4Z/scdh+ZXzLQzIOi8KKT+XivIuMwhvHiWEtRqAonYS8sb25jsnPuN ncR1cqtjEHAm7GNJupWxVMOJdf+Ur+Wu6FAZJ97RAsQCro3OylGyVMEMiKvnNYTFxIPm CPBww9RhGJIWX3rDGaNR5iPiPvm9gpaBxE8XE= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808190033l38f9d297g6790b04fe6f4e377@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:33:05 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? In-Reply-To: <52A0805F-38A4-4F9C-8910-F7571E445AFE@grubmah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <4759e5740808181540l1cb88254t9a805dd666ca573@mail.gmail.com> <52A0805F-38A4-4F9C-8910-F7571E445AFE@grubmah.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 207d77bc9e81219d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:33:06 +0000 (UTC) My live rig is one one 10U box, plus FCB. This is Behringer mixer, EDP, Repeater, MOFX, and Vortex, with a RedSound Federation and AirFX on a pull out drawn. As I plan to get to SantaCruz this year, I hope to get a smaller rack (a bit, a 6U) but with a top loader (usually for mixers) This gives me 10Uhorizontal and 6 U vertical, so I may be able to squeeze some synth stuff in. As for weight.. not sure yet... gulp.. For local gigs I occasionally haul over "the synth Racks" . One16U Rack full of Blacet and Doepfer Modular synth modules, and the MIDI synth rack which is an Old Akai Sampler and a Korg Analog Modeling synth. The idea of going laptop is very tempting, but I just haven't heard anything special from any laptop loopers really, everything seems either too "PRE- prepared" that they cant react fast enough to improv - or they are fiddling on the screen too much. But you know... I'm sure Ill go that way in the end, even if it is only for touring. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 08:19:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4102C3BE94; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:19:26 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Rtt6oKJvNQ0b7t+2XSFOX1hyPf1YScFFz/venDJ2XOhlCAwytcmujj/s27WQZmUYda14ZgqvJ9sA0QbNcN+Tdm/6yrn60VRAPwgreR57uZlkuDhh6L8SgQe0Ngkg2itQe6sk2629F7oyWLLxR3ZZdGwDgpmTCAQRIMvKDDC9l9Y=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:12:45 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Reply-To: wedgehed@yahoo.com Subject: Re: new/cool USB footcontrollers? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48AA0B10.8020006@gordius.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <89126.61781.qm@web34803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Is this it? http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=rigcontrol2_us From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 08:27:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38CAB3BE97; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=wD2Qt8+K3vrQT2Ay6OOM3Kdoa4rgLt1dKl6ldGswxwFqQkQMW2vWiZqTZPX2wCgc6oSBQJB0ZaEa0m3yoYZGPgpg6klpkCIXWdjDiLQ+s44TFxH6vJlBekresu8n1kl8TFSSJUHw1cmODUTH9p2XvKqS9v2//BZzAF9DBuvA0vk=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:27:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Controlling the EDP and LP1 together,which footcontroller? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48AA0B10.8020006@gordius.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <679045.32709.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I recently acquired a looperlaitve which i am still getting familiar with. I was having a terrible time trying to control the LP1 with my fcb1010, which has been programmed to work with the EDP.After contacting Bob who pointed out that an EDP programmed fcb1010 is known to conflict with the controlling of the EDP i saved all my programing into a sysex file and restored the fcb1010 to its factory presets.Now the LP1 responds perfect! But i am puzzled about this,i checked all of the fcb1010 programing with ripwerx,global settings,every bank,patch midi info etc. but the 2 untis still dont harmonized well when controlled with the fcb1010.Could it be that it conflicts because the fcb1010 is globally set to send note messages to be able to control the EDP?is anybody controlling both of this units with the fcb1010 succesfully? also i am realising that the fact that the LP1 has endless capabilities and independent tracks a footcontroller with a big bright screen is almost a must... Ever since i got the LP1 i find myself looking at the gordius big giant every day! Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 08:46:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A7513BE94; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=xcdCwSLRrn/IyUHCud7Rr0NvOtiPIpJq+0ym9tZYlHg=; b=Zj0vNOGltHz0VJCDAvAvVahwAQfLt61T+r7gNeE/J1bAwLn8Y0f4XnZxNa6NLPttJ4 DMb5oYFq4DgfAo7FZPMZCMnGW1Dt2uAX4sVycOg9/BWjUBGwteztiaQ3XsarNc8VbMpi X74LllsQoxNjfyQs5qBY0Vl6BMtfcqEfETpp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=FAcX8CZ64YwI5ex6aqnYALw7zwrdbr92Z5VeMKlZlxBm56hzA7MUy/qAXr0hNmlZzh 0iWMinWdPCyC95alR7WHAWYM31fmK3sbuX0xJ3KzdlKe6RVal2RlgTjE+Rm9sadVK4e8 sOl6LjLu739l/7boA1KCqvpTyEE5RKT3v3Hg0= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808190146m32d8559fn43649dd079f2b4c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:46:31 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: Controlling the EDP and LP1 together,which footcontroller? In-Reply-To: <679045.32709.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48AA0B10.8020006@gordius.be> <679045.32709.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 463cb8c89f6b1580 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Although I dont have a LP1, I do kow the FCB rather well, and I do find this very strange. The basic issue is what type of messages do you need to send to the LP1. I dont have the manual to hand, but if it is Program changes or CC's then there should be no conflict. The EDP almost exclusively uses note on off messages (as you know having programmed your fcb to do this) Now the interesting thing about the LP1 is its "midi learn" function, and I think that is where the problem lies. Instead of the box (LP1) deciding and telleing you how you should set the FCB, the LP1 is asking, "What do you want to use to control THIS fucntion" Very handy. BUT if you send it a message that includes a not on off, then the LP1 surely ignores that and uses the CC. Solution: Not certain here you understand, make sure you get some more responses first befor embarking on this: For all the pedals that you want use with the LP1, do a very rough check as to what is already set on that pedal, so Long Press DOWN, short press UP, long press on all pedals that light up that are NOT cc (or PGM ch, whcih ever the LP1 wants) and MAKE SURE THAT NOTE ON OFF info is TURNED OFF, that pedal 10. Save and exit. Do that for all the pedals in your LP1 Bank, THEN do the midi learn thing for each pedal. This way you should find that the LP1 learns to use commands that DONT have an associted NOTE command. Hope this helps... I might be wrong, DO A TEST!! Mark On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM, L.A. Angulo wrote: > Hi folks, > I recently acquired a looperlaitve which i am still getting familiar with. > I was having a terrible time trying to control the LP1 with my fcb1010, which has been programmed to work with the EDP.After contacting Bob who pointed out that an EDP programmed fcb1010 is known to conflict with the controlling of the EDP i saved all my programing into a sysex file and restored the fcb1010 to its factory presets.Now the LP1 responds perfect! > But i am puzzled about this,i checked all of the fcb1010 programing with ripwerx,global settings,every bank,patch midi info etc. but the 2 untis still dont harmonized well when controlled with the fcb1010.Could it be that it conflicts because the fcb1010 is globally set to send note messages to be able to control the EDP?is anybody controlling both of this units with the fcb1010 succesfully? > also i am realising that the fact that the LP1 has endless capabilities and independent tracks a footcontroller with a big bright screen is almost a must... > Ever since i got the LP1 i find myself looking at the gordius big giant every day! > Luis > > > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 09:05:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE14A3BE98; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=CbB/Dsndmr+VazfnW3Qu10o3FeBvs9SbBzSvbyZgyjD8dMkLGaFnNo1fgM8FXFyukYoZwrI1KEe09Vi116I70Oi45jJHPDzonoa4P0Mr4GCGQ49TexOGWf3d29gZImrAwzrXF1wlFeqTR7jCtY42F1uMrd6zaq5KLt5ztgZHt3A=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:05:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Controlling the EDP and LP1 together,which footcontroller? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808190146m32d8559fn43649dd079f2b4c9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <530550.55514.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <95sVFD.A.35F.RzoqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark, Yes, this is the way ive been working with the LP1,assigning the function via "midi learn".Ive checked every bank,patch as you say and turned off note off and any message associated to control the EDP except for the cc message to use the expression pedal to control feedback on the EDP.This should not be a problem, since i have pedal 1 on the fcb1010 set globally specifically to control the EDP on a different midi channel than pedal 2 which controls feedback of the LP1 also set on a different midi channel. Also since i have the UnO software upgrade on the fcb1010 i use Ripwerx to see the whole programming clearly in every bank and patch and everything seems to be clean... Id hate to give up using any of this boxes because of this problem i love the EDP! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 8/19/08, mark francombe wrote: > From: mark francombe > Subject: Re: Controlling the EDP and LP1 together,which footcontroller? > To: "loopers-delight" > Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 1:46 AM > Although I dont have a LP1, I do kow the FCB rather well, > and I do > find this very strange. The basic issue is what type of > messages do > you need to send to the LP1. I dont have the manual to > hand, but if it > is Program changes or CC's then there should be no > conflict. The EDP > almost exclusively uses note on off messages (as you know > having > programmed your fcb to do this) Now the interesting thing > about the > LP1 is its "midi learn" function, and I think > that is where the > problem lies. Instead of the box (LP1) deciding and > telleing you how > you should set the FCB, the LP1 is asking, "What do > you want to use to > control THIS fucntion" Very handy. BUT if you send it > a message that > includes a not on off, then the LP1 surely ignores that and > uses the > CC. > > Solution: Not certain here you understand, make sure you > get some more > responses first befor embarking on this: > > For all the pedals that you want use with the LP1, do a > very rough > check as to what is already set on that pedal, so Long > Press DOWN, > short press UP, long press on all pedals that light up that > are NOT cc > (or PGM ch, whcih ever the LP1 wants) and MAKE SURE THAT > NOTE ON OFF > info is TURNED OFF, that pedal 10. Save and exit. > Do that for all the pedals in your LP1 Bank, THEN do the > midi learn > thing for each pedal. > > This way you should find that the LP1 learns to use > commands that DONT > have an associted NOTE command. > > Hope this helps... I might be wrong, DO A TEST!! > > Mark > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM, L.A. Angulo > wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I recently acquired a looperlaitve which i am still > getting familiar with. > > I was having a terrible time trying to control the LP1 > with my fcb1010, which has been programmed to work with the > EDP.After contacting Bob who pointed out that an EDP > programmed fcb1010 is known to conflict with the controlling > of the EDP i saved all my programing into a sysex file and > restored the fcb1010 to its factory presets.Now the LP1 > responds perfect! > > But i am puzzled about this,i checked all of the > fcb1010 programing with ripwerx,global settings,every > bank,patch midi info etc. but the 2 untis still dont > harmonized well when controlled with the fcb1010.Could it be > that it conflicts because the fcb1010 is globally set to > send note messages to be able to control the EDP?is anybody > controlling both of this units with the fcb1010 succesfully? > > also i am realising that the fact that the LP1 has > endless capabilities and independent tracks a footcontroller > with a big bright screen is almost a must... > > Ever since i got the LP1 i find myself looking at the > gordius big giant every day! > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 09:28:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A9F43BE9E; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:28:01 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: LP1 and analog delay MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I need a solution for the following. I want to insert an effect into = the LP1 feedback loop to emulate warm and distorted tones the analog dela= ys of the past could produce. The LP1 does have 3 pairs of stereo outs an= d 1 stereo input, but it has no internal effects and no inserts or FX sen= d returns. What workarounds do I have? :) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 09:39:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF2CE3BEAE; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=utbzLA8saKIOtmh6fS0o7ZVkzMb9yE1LiSIExof3gcP+gifEpJg1zo77KUtIp0eMgzcReillSSIqXm38wDFIyDMKXF6ekHlo4PFQ6z/+d5CGw1Wata4qDcLFAmKbU1+iH4wO7CwPopYJlCxkPYLsGRSJBCrIjeejQZyxpVUijf0=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:39:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3DAB0742-AF5F-4E11-AAAA-83A6FA82A2B9@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <418739.46789.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:39:10 +0000 (UTC) shit it seems everyboy is using a damn behringer fcb1010,Behringer we demand a looper sponsorship!! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > Designed with both very much in mind. > Godin Spectrum to Axon AX50, Motu Ultralite. Mac PB running > Live, > Sooperlooper, Many Audio Damage AU's, Stylus, etc. > Controlled via > FCB1010 and Novation Nocturn. > Directly to either the house pa, or Mackie SRM350's. > > Small, Loud and ridiculously flexible and powerful. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 09:50:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1CC23BEB2; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:50:56 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Controlling the EDP and LP1 together,which footcontroller? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis, I don't use a FCB1010 but a FC-300 and a LP1 (1.34d). You can be sure the= LP1 works perfect when keep in mind though that the LP1 has been designe= d to respond to toggle style button (midi triggers). Your controller shou= ld send a CC message when the button is pushed down and it should send an= other CC message when the button is released. Latched mode is not support= ed which means the LED of your control pedal should be off. You can also = send a progam change message. The best thing you can do is using Midi-Ox to figure what midi data your = FCB is sending. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 11:01:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DACC83BEA4; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <000301c90184$ab2836a0$0178a3e0$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:00:17 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120eeafa8048404aa10d61de8617f32397e47d87a762c9c4194350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Between the guitar and the EDP or between the EDP and the sound system? The TC electronic " Sustain+ " is phenomemal for the guitar..... >On Aug 18, 2008, at 3:49 PM, "Ricky Graham" > wrote: > >>Specifically the guitarists amongst you. In your own experience, >>what works well? >> >> >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >> >> >>Ricky Graham >> >>info@rickygraham.net >> >>+44(0)7743537349 >> >> >> >>www.rickygraham.net -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 11:39:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13B353BE9E; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:39:17 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:39:20 +0000 (UTC) > shit it seems everyboy is using a damn behringer fcb1010,Behringer we > demand a looper sponsorship!! Behringer only sponsors surfing events ;) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 12:05:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AC273BEAE; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em00 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:05:43 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200808191205.m7JC5hot011524@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 193.158.99.226 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <70werD.A.ALH.YcrqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Rick, for that interesting thread. As I play my rig more than I play my instruments, using a different rig for= home, hometown and far away use wouldn't make sense for me.=20 For the entire time during my solo playing, the home rig (used for playing = in realtime, as opposed to recording multi-tracked stuff and processing may= be later) has always been the same as the live rig (for any possible distan= ce away from home). Of course, the touring logistics had an effect on this setup: as I went to = play events further and further away from my home town, the rig (which, as = I said had only been one) got changed from a 20HU-Rack/three keyboards/two = saxes/trombone/two bass guitars/lots of floorstuff to a 10HU-Rack/two keybo= ards/sax/two bass guitars/lesser amount of floorstuff to a laptop/interface= /faderbox/floorboard/trombone affair. And that's where I'm now, more precis= ely: Dell D620 w/ FW TC Konnekt24D Behringer BCR2000 Behringer FCB1010 (to come): wireless mikes for trombone and vocal noises Of course, this differs when I want to do other things at home. I still got= my 10HU-Rack setup. And a stompbox one. Differences were also encountered during my activities with my improvised d= ance outfit, Eclectic Blah. For rehersals, I used a very simple setup (most= of the time, Kawai K1 keyboard with lots of keys damaged or missing, Nord = MicroModular, DL4), where live performances saw a somewhat bigger setup, al= though even that one had shrunk for the last performances to a Wavestation = KEX/Q/MicroModular/KP2/DL4/4HU-rack affair. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 12:18:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8D433BEAF; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #5829618 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/mOUgWggfmtZbkjK+FCjZjoJeMjif3ydqFrPyvcX cCuLVSOqSCuNMF Message-ID: <006701c901f7$ad10a970$b89ffe91@parsick> From: "Wavecomputer360" To: References: <20080818103511.8e5hp6f10kogwcog@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <262649E8-B618-4316-95ED-4B5FA8FE2909@zoekeating.com> <7dc9326090811dbbc760d892f8fa8cf7@glasswing.com> Subject: Re: live versus home rig Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:28:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C90207.E484B9E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5600000000000001,0.5 Resent-Message-ID: <5WkhmC.A.3gH.6nrqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:18:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C90207.E484B9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My live rig differs greatly from my studio rig, first and foremost = because of the rather small car I=B4ve got :-/. On the other hand, = though, it=B4s amazing *what* you can squeeze into a 1994 Volkswagen = Polo... Live on stage I have a pair of Emu E4XTs with two small Roland MIDI = master keyboards which I use for textural and ambient work which I = created at home. Then I=B4ve got a small Behringer mixer (don=B4t throw = things at me, please!) and a Lexicon Jamman which shares the 19" rack = with one of the Emus. The looping rig with the EDPs and the Repeater = tends to be rather unwieldy so I leave it at home most of the time. = Finally, I=B4ve got a few of these small Sony HR MP-5 multi FX units = which produce a very decent sound for their respective size, especially = when nixing the built-in FX of the Behringer ;-). Depending on the location I sometimes use a Fostex D-90 for recording = both the sound straight from the desk plus the ambient sound of the = venue (when playing inside a gasometer or a reservoir, for instance). = This allows for more elaborate mixing and blending of the various sound = sources afterwards (and gives me three hours of recording time). For = capturing live sound, I usually bring a Crown SASS-P Mk. 2 and a set of = small diaphragm condenser microphones mounted to a Jecklin OSS disc. I usually bring one or two further instruments along (when my car allows = me to as I sometimes even squeeze a small PA into it, too), e. g. a Guya = lapsteel with Sustainiac B, a Korg Wavestation, or something along these = lines. In December I=B4ll be playing another planetarium show where I = might even bring my ARP 2600 with sequencers... or a VCS-3, for that = matter. There=B4s such a lot more to draw from when working in the studio... Stephen ____________________________________________________________________ "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little = piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android")=20 Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, reissued = with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info please = check www.parsick.com For legal downloads please check: http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=3D296&title=3DStephen+Parsi= ck ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C90207.E484B9E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    My live rig differs greatly from my = studio rig,=20 first and foremost because of the rather small car I=B4ve got :-/. = On the=20 other hand, though, it=B4s amazing *what* you can squeeze into a 1994 = Volkswagen=20 Polo...
     
    Live on stage I have a pair of Emu = E4XTs with=20 two small Roland MIDI master keyboards which I use for textural and = ambient=20 work which I created at home. Then I=B4ve got a small Behringer mixer = (don=B4t throw=20 things at me, please!) and a Lexicon Jamman which shares the 19" rack = with one=20 of the Emus. The looping rig with the EDPs and the Repeater tends to be = rather=20 unwieldy so I leave it at home most of the time. Finally, I=B4ve got a = few of=20 these small Sony HR MP-5 multi FX units which produce a very decent = sound=20 for their respective size, especially when nixing the built-in FX of the = Behringer ;-).
     
    Depending on the location I sometimes = use a Fostex=20 D-90 for recording both the sound straight from the desk plus the = ambient sound=20 of the venue (when playing inside a gasometer or a reservoir, for = instance).=20 This allows for more elaborate mixing and blending of the various sound = sources=20 afterwards (and gives me three hours of recording time). For capturing = live=20 sound, I usually bring a Crown SASS-P Mk. 2 and a set of small diaphragm = condenser microphones mounted to a Jecklin OSS disc.
     
    I usually bring one or two further = instruments=20 along (when my car allows me to as I sometimes even squeeze a small PA = into it,=20 too), e. g. a Guya lapsteel with Sustainiac B, a Korg Wavestation, or = something=20 along these lines. In December I=B4ll be playing another planetarium = show where I=20 might even bring my ARP 2600 with sequencers... or a VCS-3, for that=20 matter.
     
    There=B4s such a lot more to draw from = when working=20 in the studio...
     
    Stephen

    _____________________________________________________= _______________
     
    "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci = little=20 piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android")
     
    Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, = reissued=20 with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info please = check www.parsick.com
     
    For legal downloads please check:
     
    http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=3D296&t= itle=3DStephen+Parsick
     
     
    ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C90207.E484B9E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 12:31:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9900C3BE98; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=eGIZbDnsANXsM+71L89JKHcMmv8WMUvEvYhrIe+8lbl3XZzpyQTG4LaXU36mvgLUMWsrddysoiUA6VfE5XR47LDubbmN/aNmFh8hJSLVtbOgGjRyJAu+I/l8W+kgSDp9magTU8sr4D9S6P8k5dRRGjGFZM+cIcWKf8QKf0Rrf90=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:31:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <726482.76946.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:31:50 +0000 (UTC) LoLLLLLL!!!! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 4:39 AM > > shit it seems everyboy is using a damn behringer > fcb1010,Behringer we > > demand a looper sponsorship!! > > Behringer only sponsors surfing events ;) > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 12:52:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BDF83BEB9; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:51:59 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Language:Thread-Index; b=IzEsC3FOAiaheZjgU5EbgdAklAtDEDZWXc+5q2twkEr/y6dR6x/8Zu+31J9mdK6wXlgnAawrBxArI3pAKM79KV3kLM6kbhRIcv8D4QA6E0l1LFFMHz9/0hckyjNioKm94v9Q+R6ZmCZGkFb8kz58jgXS7J48rky+mMB1JEf2wKY= ; X-YMail-OSG: wO9Fp6sVM1mixIW7HLO0khbrypsqi_nVkYncenOAG7gEzRSMGRRN8.JQpQDO7Advlk7.8Q97QgF8ePXCxC0k8H_ATDu_FkYq9mRb3TYDRD20ZvnUPy6Je9NBTKnWU7UWJKEF9Ik37qqaTPuG4nQYjQ6y X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <000301c90184$ab2836a0$0178a3e0$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:45:13 +0100 Message-ID: <005001c901f9$6d526290$47f727b0$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AckBuWRLTLmCigNmRTGC4qkzvuPPfwAP/2BA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Matthew. I'll check that out Ricky Graham info@rickygraham.net +44(0)7743537349 www.rickygraham.net -----Original Message----- From: Matthew F. McCabe [mailto:mmccabe@finleysound.com] Sent: 19 August 2008 06:07 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? I really dig my Analog Man CompRossor...lots of vibe. --- King Never www.kingnever.com On Aug 18, 2008, at 3:49 PM, "Ricky Graham" wrote: > Specifically the guitarists amongst you. In your own experience, > what works well? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Ricky Graham > > info@rickygraham.net > > +44(0)7743537349 > > > > www.rickygraham.net > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 17/08/2008 12:58 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 14:09:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C85503BECC; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000301c90184$ab2836a0$0178a3e0$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:08:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:09:02 +0000 (UTC) I have always been a big fan of dbx. The dbx 160A is a mono compressor that has been an industry standard for years. I've seen it in more pro concert sound system racks than any other compressor. They have less expensive models too. Kris >> Specifically the guitarists amongst you. In your own experience, what >> works well? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> >> >> Ricky Graham From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 14:23:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73E723BED3; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Language:Thread-Index; b=TQ+Tgzhl1lZX+ZBmiTHZlg3tbfRC+g+yBTU5UGZv+rjuYwPGcTyk/h8nfr5jvNG9wWe74DdxOKR9819EZvEsHhigjoAikCWpZrUf9Uqxma9Gr3Js+ToL7qbKZiicH6sWObAZzKBBLBbqyuhTYu9zmqa7wJZaXP0EXKowC5XhcFE= ; X-YMail-OSG: 6FjrJcsVM1neP6UQhBkSWanR5w6WwdZ8WYf7.3RzwvP6P6Ct.5DULVItGXvbTvt8MvqRLrDjc5CV69tNuwCOt.D6S614wqCFZ84kzkko3TiEJIZVMQRp43sbyHTsia_.1ijFXfzqSCq5EX0mRDDuKZkM X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <000301c90184$ab2836a0$0178a3e0$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:23:38 +0100 Message-ID: <006501c90207$2d11aed0$87350c70$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AckB6uhphQoyAp4nRCmHNYqxKdZx1wAG5x5w Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Between EDP and Sound System! Thanks for your suggestions. This is all really good stuff. Ricky Graham info@rickygraham.net +44(0)7743537349 www.rickygraham.net -----Original Message----- From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 August 2008 12:00 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? Between the guitar and the EDP or between the EDP and the sound system? The TC electronic " Sustain+ " is phenomemal for the guitar..... >On Aug 18, 2008, at 3:49 PM, "Ricky Graham" > wrote: > >>Specifically the guitarists amongst you. In your own experience, >>what works well? >> >> >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >> >> >>Ricky Graham >> >>info@rickygraham.net >> >>+44(0)7743537349 >> >> >> >>www.rickygraham.net -- ... http://www.zmix.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 17/08/2008 12:58 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 15:49:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9658D3BEA6; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <43DCAA5E-0B5B-46F1-BB50-45D40DD562A1@zerocrossing.net> References: <00cc01c900fd$6273c550$0692a8c0@voo.intra> <4EDFAE6A-51FF-46AB-9CCD-1714D5AB7F9E@zerocrossing.net> <000301c90176$95516d00$bff44700$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> <43DCAA5E-0B5B-46F1-BB50-45D40DD562A1@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Nyboer Subject: Re: Japan loopers? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:49:31 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:49:34 +0000 (UTC) near Roppongi, this place seems to host some good shows: http://www.super-deluxe.com/ Also, the O-Nest, Shinjuku Pit Inn may be worth looking into. here's some gig guides: http://www.japanimprov.com/schedule/index.html http://www.tokyogigguide.com/ Hopefully, you are more fortunate than I was in your timing!! Peter. On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Thanks sir. > > M > > On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > >> "Ruby Room" in Shibuya is a cool place to check out local bands! >> Also, >> Cosmo's if you like Jazz amongst other things. It is also located in >> Shibuya. Roppongi is also good for music. >> >> Have fun, heading back out on November myself! >> >> Ricky Graham >> info@rickygraham.net >> +44(0)7743537349 >> >> www.rickygraham.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] >> Sent: 18 August 2008 19:42 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Japan loopers? >> >> Hey kids, >> >> Going to Japan from the 1st to the 15th of last month and I'm >> wondering if any of ya'll hail from that Island and could point me to >> a cool music performance or show of some sort. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> -- No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: >> 17/08/2008 >> 12:58 >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 16:01:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47FAA3BEB2; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4EDFAE6A-51FF-46AB-9CCD-1714D5AB7F9E@zerocrossing.net> References: <00cc01c900fd$6273c550$0692a8c0@voo.intra> <4EDFAE6A-51FF-46AB-9CCD-1714D5AB7F9E@zerocrossing.net> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:01:03 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Japan loopers? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:01:12 +0000 (UTC) At 11:41 AM -0700 8/18/08, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >Hey kids, > >Going to Japan from the 1st to the 15th of last month and I'm >wondering if any of ya'll hail from that Island and could point me >to a cool music performance or show of some sort. Hey Mark! Are you only going to be in Tokyo? If you happen to be coming out here to the Kansai area, I'll see what I can dig up. Can't really help you out around Kanto, unfortunately, but it sounds as if some of the other guys have got that covered. Arigato! --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From john_alison56@yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 16:19:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 373 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:19:24 UTC Received: from n10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.238]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 07B443BE95 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.13.25] by n10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2008 16:13:11 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.167] by t4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2008 16:13:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp108.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2008 16:13:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 74221.90065.bm@omp108.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 53646 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Aug 2008 16:13:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ymail_nen1; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=hxjmPaHWuw64swqE3cH87g/1SoTZ1OGGmLtEHh6PhHz434776x9/B7Zl2hEXbLWmjqfzseJNO1KRplBNtqYSCghzoSksnpXpW3mthv9AkIuEaqoog8yVwFL+NqR6XOWOJiwtyTTEUHQOsOGH4uspJ8ENAoHQ0aIo1e7mAjIoAhU=; Received: from [41.222.70.194] by web59502.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:13:10 PDT Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:13:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John Alison Reply-To: john_alison0078@yahoo.co.jp Subject: FROM JOHN ALISON To: looparc@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-51035011-1219162390=:53044" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <977919.53044.qm@web59502.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --0-51035011-1219162390=:53044 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a new email address!You can now email me at: john_alison56@yahoo.com GET BACK TO ME - I WANT YOU TO HELP ME CLEAR THIS CONSIGNMENT THAT IS ALREADY IN U.S.A WHICH I SHIPPED THROUGH A DIPLOMATIC AGENT BUT THE CONTENTS OF THE PACKAGE IS $20,000,000.00 ALL IN $100.00 BILLS, BUT THE COURIER COMPANY DOES NOT KNOW THAT THE CONSIGNEMT CONTAINS MONEY. 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    --0-51035011-1219162390=:53044-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 17:10:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B69DA3BECF; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00be01c9021e$7f8225c0$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: Subject: Re: LP1 and analog delay Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:10:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:10:52 +0000 (UTC) > Hi, I need a solution for the following. I want to insert an effect into > the LP1 feedback loop to emulate warm and distorted tones the > analog delays of the past could produce. The LP1 does have 3 pairs of > stereo outs and 1 stereo input, but it has no internal effects and > no inserts or FX send returns. What workarounds do I have? :) If you are trying to get the effects recorded into another loop, then you will need to use a small mixer or switch at the input of the LP1 to control where you are getting your input from. You can then use the AUX outputs as effects sends and then mix back into the input of the LP1. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 17:15:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F24943BED6; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00c301c9021f$319af390$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: Subject: Re: Controlling the EDP and LP1 together,which footcontroller? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:15:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <6PWJ8C.A.xgD.E_vqIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak's response to this is exactly correct. The LP1 will respond to program change messages or CC messages. If you use CC messages, then it needs to send a large value on the press and a small value on the release. It will not respond to the note on and off messages. I know one person that uses an FCB1010 for both. They have certain banks established to control the EDP and other banks to control the LP1. -Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 19:30:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B2EE3BEC3; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:30:35 +0200 Message-ID: <001001c90232$0dce8b30$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:30:43 +0000 (UTC) I use a DBX 166XL: compressor, limiter and noise gate. Can be configured as 2 coupled channels or as 2 independent ones. Well known DBX sound, very reliable too. You could also look at the 266. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 20:38:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B88E23BEC1; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:37:51 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9023b$738d83f0$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808180701w69b2cd07r8e7888064e3717c7@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:38:05 +0000 (UTC) > Per Wrote: > If using a transformer, make sure the delivered current (measured in > "watt") is enough to support the total "watt consumption" of > all gear you plan to run of that transformer. Thanks for the info Per. What are you using btw? I believe Furman sells transformers, they are good but expensive and heavy too. I think that most laptops use a 100-240V power supply so that shouldn't be a problem. But I don't think I can use any recent synth bought in Belgium, The Netherlands or Germany in the US right? And I believe there some other European countries using different volt and Hz rates too. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 21:40:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89EB13BEC9; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xmE/h2spm2vPIRGxm0MTcGmYBb3VikCaoBwGdi9BdbM=; b=t/tLjnq75qAio/bsMC/W+TnsKl1jPEsLLqyy6HbjV8FiXQTSpLSGVZjikRvLRFS6Tz Rjs6+AuKu1anAgfV5O1/z1TITEk4PSMW0GQ8ZrfmL7BkRkiklPb25eNs9lFXo5f0v5fa BFuWyyY1FQnIPhzfloHAD33VWXpkvvHsYa9qA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=fh2pJSaatCLlgKYBIw8qQPUWVHHR3rEXDKLkL5fnYZVCSTvPVAN2hEZGKWiedSszzI //HheyRV/4HBLBTP9DsgEGkjRhcX9DwRVkUoluZEZOq3mHuEU1Zv2ew4jZrS+1Bty56j KA068eOUoT+DP4RlcbcK89Hzrc0ElKQCSi8Z8= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808191440j500e74abka9a490166d1a9839@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:40:16 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? In-Reply-To: <000001c9023b$738d83f0$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808180701w69b2cd07r8e7888064e3717c7@mail.gmail.com> <000001c9023b$738d83f0$020313ac@PIPO> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:40:17 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Sjaak wrote: >> Per Wrote: >> If using a transformer, make sure the delivered current (measured in >> "watt") is enough to support the total "watt consumption" of >> all gear you plan to run of that transformer. > > Thanks for the info Per. What are you using btw? Nothing. None of my gear have a voltage problem regarding at what side of the Atlantic it's at. I keep two kinds of fuses for the FCB1010 pedal though. To make it ready for "the other side's" voltage level I turn the input block upside down and change the fuse accordingly (well explained in the manual). The laptop also adapts to whatever voltage I feed it. As for my EWI and Faderfox hand controller I run them on batteries on the road. My soundcard + mic amp, the RME FireFAce400, gets its power supply from the MacBook through the firewire cord. My mic for sax/flute/voice gets its phantom power from the FF400 input 1, EWI synth lined into FF400 input 3, the electric guitars lined into FF400 input 4, EWI virtual MIDI synths played by a MIDI cord into the FF400 MIDI input 2 while the Berhinger FCB + Faderfox goes into MIDI input 1. So there is one mic input left that I can use to bring in a co player's signal for looping in my rig. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 22:11:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFE2C3BEC4; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=GteCEp5vXewFJ0usMvgajpN+HLD731DXPDkv3HNm214=; b=MFRQLgQ3Ql9h81G4Pzzd5vJ/Yl8HKs4QkgcaxFL96bpLYUHZbdMlB3YjJBRxEc5dPx g7IAkeAOrALjYs3KYyDt2lSBJyfgt+m5z59kwiEUiAB1j/7GZXEXtXt/LdD1IX7sZVjf QXKTS6wS53qEuWdbb+VHvrJVVrotTdVKVb74M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Un82aOjabVJArIUVbWI1/tkjiJxNCtZihPK6UWTM7H3/wErpnAOuXiyUoeuymHVMVE KXoHDtj/80rRn4EYkWRitof7pfJ4xpiI2J5cNbWjXJzGG82gBnkOfBByX0EXyaoyBnnC cxV2fiLd9ICzEne7Tm4Sj6J7sBmyTEETQZVWg= Message-ID: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:11:54 -0400 From: "Rafael Cohen" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Tabletop loopers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15892_12267900.1219183914184" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:11:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15892_12267900.1219183914184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone, First post here :) OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually designed to be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper...think: JazzMutant Lemur crossed with Boss RC-50. The Korg Kaoss pad comes close in some respects, but I don't even use 75% of it's features, and the loops all have to be synchronized, and sometimes I do ambient things where I don't want everything on a grid. I had a Boss RC-50 for a while, which could do un-synched loops, but the interface wasn't right for me, too big, too many menus, etc... I know, I know... "Get the Lemur and build it in MAX!" you say, but I am NOT a software person. My current looping set-up is two Boss DD-20s into a Korg Kaoss pad, and with that I can get a lot of options covered, and even change loop lengths on the fly (albeit with some glitchy distortion), but if I could get a few more layers and few extra features (like changing loop start and end points on the fly, pausing and restarting individual loops in synched or un-synched ways) and all in one box (with a nice multi-touch-screen, prefereably), I would be all over it. I imagine that in the next few years, multi-touch-screens are going to become more common in music gear. Anyway, this is all just an enjoyable gear fantasy that is occupying my mind at work at the moment. I feel like I know most of the gear options out there, but if anyone has any suggestions, I would love to hear them. Alternatively, what is your ideal looper? -Rafael ------=_Part_15892_12267900.1219183914184 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
    Hi everyone,
     
    First post here :)
     
    OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually designe= d to be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper...think: JazzMutant Lemur cros= sed with Boss RC-50.  The Korg Kaoss pad comes close in some respects,= but I don't even use 75% of it's features, and the loops all = have to be synchronized, and sometimes I do ambient things where I don= 't want everything on a grid.  I had a Boss RC-50 for a while= , which could do un-synched loops, but the interface wasn't right for m= e, too big, too many menus, etc...  I know, I know... "Get the Le= mur and build it in MAX!" you say, but I am NOT a software person= .  My current looping set-up is two Boss DD-20s into a Korg Kaoss= pad, and with that I can get a lot of options covered, and = even change loop lengths on the fly (albeit with some glitchy distortion), = but if I could get a few more layers and few extra features (like changing = loop start and end points on the fly, pausing and restarting individual loo= ps in synched or un-synched ways) and all in one box (with a nice multi-tou= ch-screen, prefereably), I would be all over it.  I imagine that in th= e next few years, multi-touch-screens are going to become more common in mu= sic gear.
     
    Anyway, this is all just an enjoyable gear fantasy that= is occupying my mind at work at the moment.  I feel like I know most = of the gear options out there, but if anyone has any suggestions, I would l= ove to hear them.  Alternatively, what is your ideal looper?
     
    -Rafael
     
     
     
     
    ------=_Part_15892_12267900.1219183914184-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 19 23:55:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E0713BEC2; Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <97DA4CDA-16AE-4697-BEF4-1F903A854AD9@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: Tabletop loopers Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:55:09 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:55:14 +0000 (UTC) No problem if you're not a software person. Someone's done if for you. He's a very nice man, he gives it away for free. http://www.zonemobius.com Or if you want a more "tape" style... http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/augustusloop.html But that'll set you back $29 One day I dream of having a Lemur... but then I remember both my hands are usually busy with a guitar anyway. If only humans were monkeys instead of apes we'd have prehensile tails! On Aug 19, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Rafael Cohen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > First post here :) > > OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually > designed to be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper...think: > JazzMutant Lemur crossed with Boss RC-50. The Korg Kaoss pad comes > close in some respects, but I don't even use 75% of it's features, > and the loops all have to be synchronized, and sometimes I do > ambient things where I don't want everything on a grid. I had a > Boss RC-50 for a while, which could do un-synched loops, but the > interface wasn't right for me, too big, too many menus, etc... I > know, I know... "Get the Lemur and build it in MAX!" you say, but I > am NOT a software person. My current looping set-up is two Boss > DD-20s into a Korg Kaoss pad, and with that I can get a lot of > options covered, and even change loop lengths on the fly (albeit > with some glitchy distortion), but if I could get a few more layers > and few extra features (like changing loop start and end points on > the fly, pausing and restarting individual loops in synched or un- > synched ways) and all in one box (with a nice multi-touch-screen, > prefereably), I would be all over it. I imagine that in the next > few years, multi-touch-screens are going to become more common in > music gear. > > Anyway, this is all just an enjoyable gear fantasy that is > occupying my mind at work at the moment. I feel like I know most > of the gear options out there, but if anyone has any suggestions, I > would love to hear them. Alternatively, what is your ideal looper? > > -Rafael > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 00:29:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1774B3BED5; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=E4h72BfjjAag2l8AwTPTkxEMMDH3Ww8CzlRi9KUm/K4=; b=rnT3qOFe39DEifsBQH/7f+4uZ3qkvO7M/13UOqz7Ur8wE33oVsihWNqaB85WbS+zwM 6G2gE3VsGd73d/7sgVh4N7u6OeNPdD0h/bLUsXPtX5sSPaoqadPcMkQ5YGAONmSts/rd 2tDGYUE1IrTaN+AEN0WhT6a2McI+s0Y/UErbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Ok3Mx6ghNvnX815DOK/pxKQC7EBmJSfY/uP/UR8UCVDXn7ScP0NQc/WLr6yZ5hKnli hwToLF1gTJiSaJGQWQ2qusvEYGJGDBHAi+G2OgDLbtAH/zvFSgj8iRvc1BsWkO99HM2G YPZvrgV5QsGZybyU71Wmy2w7QlyAyJmv+WrY0= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:29:51 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tabletop loopers In-Reply-To: <97DA4CDA-16AE-4697-BEF4-1F903A854AD9@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> <97DA4CDA-16AE-4697-BEF4-1F903A854AD9@zerocrossing.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:29:52 +0000 (UTC) This is funny. No matter what list I'm on or which question is being asked, claims of, "I'm not a software person" always result in suggestions of software. Some of us like to be luddites! Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rafael Cohen was all: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> First post here :) >> >> OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually designed to >> be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper... >>...I am NOT a software person.... Then Mark Sottilaro went: > No problem if you're not a software person. Someone's done if for you. > He's a very nice man, he gives it away for free. > > http://www.zonemobius.com > > Or if you want a more "tape" style... > > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/augustusloop.html > > But that'll set you back $29 > > One day I dream of having a Lemur... but then I remember both my hands are > usually busy with a guitar anyway. If only humans were monkeys instead of > apes we'd have prehensile tails! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 01:51:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E6623BEDA; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> <97DA4CDA-16AE-4697-BEF4-1F903A854AD9@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <796B3909-96F1-4124-936F-518BCD3BD00E@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: Tabletop loopers Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:51:14 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:51:16 +0000 (UTC) From his post it seemed he didn't want to tackle making a looper in Max MSP. Anyone who even is aware of Max and the Lemur is already saying that they've got some computer music knowledge. Do you really think your Boss DR-660 isn't a computer? On Aug 19, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > This is funny. No matter what list I'm on or which question is being > asked, claims of, "I'm not a software person" always result in > suggestions of software. > > Some of us like to be luddites! > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > > Rafael Cohen was all: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> First post here :) >>> >>> OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually >>> designed to >>> be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper... > >>> ...I am NOT a software person.... > > > Then Mark Sottilaro went: > >> No problem if you're not a software person. Someone's done if for >> you. >> He's a very nice man, he gives it away for free. >> >> http://www.zonemobius.com >> >> Or if you want a more "tape" style... >> >> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/augustusloop.html >> >> But that'll set you back $29 >> >> One day I dream of having a Lemur... but then I remember both my >> hands are >> usually busy with a guitar anyway. If only humans were monkeys >> instead of >> apes we'd have prehensile tails! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 02:29:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C821E3BED0; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00d001c9026c$a16e1740$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: RE: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:29:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Dear Sjaak, Per took me to a store in Goteborg when I first got there and I purchased a 1,000 watt transformer for about $70 USD (110-220 volts with adaptors). It enable me to play successfuly with Amercian 110 volt equipment in Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Germany, England, Wales and Northern Ireland. I left it with my good friend, Paul Marshall in Northern Ireland because it was too heavy to bring back to the states (I do believe that the one I used in my 2003 European looping tour I left with Luca Formentini near Lado Di Gara. If anyone wants to use these units and is willing to pay the shipping for them to where they are (and keeps them in either the UK or in Europe), I'd be happy to lend them to them with the caveat that I know where they are are for my next tour in Europe which may be as soon as next summer so I don't have to repurchase them. Additionally, Bill Walker bought a good 220-110 converter for the Y2K LIVE LOOPING FESTIVALS in Northern California (which will be placed equidistant from the two performance stages at Y2K8 for anyone coming over from Europe, Asia or the UK so please don't buy one unnecessarily if you are coming to perform. I'm not sure of my touring schedule for next summer but I think I will be in Scandinavia probably before I am at the Antwerp, Rome and Athens looping festivals that are being planned but maybe we can work something out and , certainly, when I arrive in Antwerp, Rome and Athens, everyone from the US and Canada is welcome to use my units for the entirety of the festivals. One last thought: It might be a really cool thing, if people can afford it, for the people who tend to put on looping festivals and performances to purchase a transformer to keep on site. The transformer is a MAJOR headache when you are trying to get around on trains, buses, subways and cars, let alone airplanes so it would be cool if we could do something like that. speaking of said devil, I'm going to start a new thread. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 02:38:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 849123BEDE; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00d101c9026d$ccffd960$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: TRAVEL TRANSFORMERS: who owns their own on this list and where do you live Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:38:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:38:16 +0000 (UTC) I own two transformers for converting 110 volts (US/Canada) to 220 volts (European/UK) one is with Rick Graham in Derry, Northern Ireland one is with Luca Formentini in Descanzo, Italy both are rated at 1,000 watts, plenty for almost anyone's live looping rig (even Mir O's gargantuan analogue rig) the Y2K LOOPING FESTIVAL SERIES owns one transformer for converting 220 volts (European/UK) to 110 volts (US/Canada) it is with me in Santa Cruz, California I was thinking it would be good to pool our resources and figure out who has transformers where so that we could just mail them within our respective continents to travelling musicians to save them the price of constantly buying one every time you tour. I would be more than happy to coordinate all of this information and be a resource for letting people know where to go if they need a transformer. They are just too big, heavy and expensive to fly on planes with the current draconian weight limits that are now imposed on travelling musicians. Maybe we can figure out a way to facilitate inter country looping jaunts for each other. Yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 02:43:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3331A3BED9; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:43:47 -0700 Message-ID: <003401c9026e$94fb6010$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 thread-index: AckCbpHabNILwugOQImCaHKJ2/nuZw== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Am very happy with my two knob Keeley, I set the internal trims to accept high output signals so I can run anything from piezo pickups to high output humbuckers with the most dynamic range and most transparent sound. I never run the sensitivity past 1 0'clock, and I set the level depending on which guitar I'm using and try to match unity gain with the bypassed sound with perhaps a little boost. Really helps prevent digital clipping whan using a looper or recording to DAW. Ther are so many good ones out the including analog mand, TC, Carl martin, Demeter, and that's not even talking about rack mount units. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 05:25:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 468A63BEDB; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=XDNEWRnyeNPPZcbzuhvN/OEt4kMsWT8VsJrlJq73tr4=; b=e0k1aP+jrG58Yv5ku7WYoGrEP/2D+uyKRr8befIl/4rptYqiI8mbd2h8cGmnv0fYoJ uh4fT/FSj3j+p2KS/bhB+XQjBNBL3YRIa/UtkwQCnziFU1I1Re/SbYIsCbYy8tBddRP0 rRPyP9CqBNHMhkF9tAdJAKDT4CpoWDm+0vJsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=eO7UQFRXy2Uh2fYmYyCazRbauW3Id68pAb2h6yxwH33WNQogqAcxbBYr4IPjwaTFSY +R3ZbDoGr2hb7jh/0yDmf3pgtkrax4JLSYgVg8xOI+C2057WeZXfnhPc+IwF+7q56rth sOSJ9U24ZzO6fDlUB2mZ5daitnfrj4dD/rDmI= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:25:46 -0600 From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tabletop loopers In-Reply-To: <796B3909-96F1-4124-936F-518BCD3BD00E@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10291_29745455.1219209946880" References: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> <97DA4CDA-16AE-4697-BEF4-1F903A854AD9@zerocrossing.net> <796B3909-96F1-4124-936F-518BCD3BD00E@zerocrossing.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:25:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10291_29745455.1219209946880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline How about this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc ------=_Part_10291_29745455.1219209946880 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------=_Part_10291_29745455.1219209946880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 05:39:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 287BF3BEDF; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=SsJwTWe6uejK+4AoW+Yc7H9UpGLE7mr83TMQava/N3k=; b=Zrizsf+7XXQf4rNDPGTeTCkvrvB0K/S5FTbd9e9PaqbsBySZT2SlBd5UR10kMN7hEd qvwhKrKUt6EL/ptqX8x330EHEt6lC7SYpr05vjNl1zZ+hzpNySyL/peSvdbn19ptNclr ZOFsnAXkmcNkjOH0C4cAaXVOnHGDS9A2tEDRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=CBzxTQWnMKNxLqURQHcPJdW4IcbbTVjH892JdAanbbWFZ5hZPq8GGRCszXv2GFLZEH UFS+81/txXJCC2bsQ9wZ9R6x/+FFnT5IZ+JxKBqFcWItQ+It2o4oZEonm28TvZkF/Tq6 09H/bq8pWoLcZ/IeIg2kgC9lre7NY4lU+7UbE= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:39:17 -0600 From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! In-Reply-To: <338842.70671.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10313_32520066.1219210757730" References: <338842.70671.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:39:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10313_32520066.1219210757730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline One thing I like to do when I teach beginner guitar lessons is play a recorded beat with a base line, say, in the key of C and then have the student "solo" using a C and Bb. I emphasize tempo and demonstrate how there are many variations one can achieve with just two tones. With more people in the mix you could add a 4th, 5th, maj 3rd. Sometimes we put down the guitar and I'll stomp out a 1/4 note tempo with my feet and then drum rhythms on my thighs. I have them produce 1/4th, 1/8th, or 1/16th note variations. They naturally start producing patterns that modulate every 4 or 8 measures, just like what they hear in popular music. They're not even close to mastering a scale on the fretboard, but they can keep time with their hands or just two notes, use musical creativity, and jam out. ^|>^m ------=_Part_10313_32520066.1219210757730 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    One thing I like to do when I teach beginner guitar lessons is play a recorded beat with a base line, say, in the key of C and then have the student "solo" using a C and Bb.  I emphasize tempo and demonstrate how there are many variations one can achieve with just two tones.  With more people in the mix you could add a 4th, 5th, maj 3rd.

    Sometimes we put down the guitar and I'll stomp out a 1/4 note tempo with my feet and then drum rhythms on my thighs.  I have them produce 1/4th, 1/8th, or 1/16th note variations.

    They naturally start producing patterns that modulate every 4 or 8 measures, just like what they hear in popular music.

    They're not even close to mastering a scale on the fretboard, but they can keep time with their hands or just two notes, use musical creativity, and jam out. 

    ^|>^m
    ------=_Part_10313_32520066.1219210757730-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 05:57:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C37D3BEE1; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 609 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:57:21 UTC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikBAINMq0gKAikp/2dsb2JhbAAItUiBWw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,238,1217779200"; d="scan'208";a="304151861" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Birds To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tabletop loopers Reply-To: simonbirds@iinet.net.au X-Origin: 203.6.223.18 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:47:10 +0800 Message-Id: <43061.1219211230@iinet.net.au> X-Mailer: AtMail 4.51 - 203.6.223.18 - simonbirds@iinet.net.au Resent-Message-ID: <2Y2dLB.A.ukB.BJ7qIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rafael, In answer to the 'ideal looper' question, mine would be an Electro Harmonix= 2880 that allowed different loop lengths for each channel and had an fx send on = each channel as well. Apart from that the 2880 comes really close as my ideal ta= bletop looper (especially coupled with a mini-KP and/or a deluxe memory man). Some= thing about the interface on this machine really clicks for me as a performance instrument. Don't see much mention of it here... Simon On Tue Aug 19 16:55 , Mark Sottilaro sent: >No problem if you're not a software person. Someone's done if for=20=20 >you. He's a very nice man, he gives it away for free. > >http://www.zonemobius.com > >Or if you want a more "tape" style... > >http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/augustusloop.html > >But that'll set you back $29 > >One day I dream of having a Lemur... but then I remember both my=20=20 >hands are usually busy with a guitar anyway. If only humans were=20=20 >monkeys instead of apes we'd have prehensile tails! > > >On Aug 19, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Rafael Cohen wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> First post here :) >> >> OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually=20=20 >> designed to be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper...think:=20=20 >> JazzMutant Lemur crossed with Boss RC-50. The Korg Kaoss pad comes=20= =20 >> close in some respects, but I don't even use 75% of it's features,=20=20 >> and the loops all have to be synchronized, and sometimes I do=20=20 >> ambient things where I don't want everything on a grid. I had a=20=20 >> Boss RC-50 for a while, which could do un-synched loops, but the=20=20 >> interface wasn't right for me, too big, too many menus, etc... I=20=20 >> know, I know... "Get the Lemur and build it in MAX!" you say, but I=20= =20 >> am NOT a software person. My current looping set-up is two Boss=20=20 >> DD-20s into a Korg Kaoss pad, and with that I can get a lot of=20=20 >> options covered, and even change loop lengths on the fly (albeit=20=20 >> with some glitchy distortion), but if I could get a few more layers=20= =20 >> and few extra features (like changing loop start and end points on=20=20 >> the fly, pausing and restarting individual loops in synched or un-=20 >> synched ways) and all in one box (with a nice multi-touch-screen,=20=20 >> prefereably), I would be all over it. I imagine that in the next=20=20 >> few years, multi-touch-screens are going to become more common in=20=20 >> music gear. >> >> Anyway, this is all just an enjoyable gear fantasy that is=20=20 >> occupying my mind at work at the moment. I feel like I know most=20=20 >> of the gear options out there, but if anyone has any suggestions, I=20= =20 >> would love to hear them. Alternatively, what is your ideal looper? >> >> -Rafael >> >> >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 07:01:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AF683BEE2; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ybKE3sbNX4aqVH3SDWtbutHSaCk5uVU/+lNXQnJ1nrI=; b=L4WoSA7E0Q5yla7oiNTMxP5WdVAJmVOVjnUjyEQRQnY7RM3IRkNiniuWLWXUMbj+3F YA5bWHdWLJw8oi/t5LnZ67xDx76hY7sNyZGdwMiyvUGZyXfyKW3FrupMVsHEGmcZr4zg /0oe1gT9OMSYvsTxUnEVRUIJEDNT6I6xFpPf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Hl/LbjPjNiuHsb2k/roavBZf6TpUf/bBEztfGaXhuQ9eG8bgMsrpHfp7lyHVH6qHJT hYROoVce1B9JFdFaBkDXglFghwr7H70tqld6HlaFGiF1nzumyM9LUvjFtmGat54+snoP rxYjAappIARtiQ1wl52XSE8KaCtljXHlg91OA= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808200001m618456bcxe44fb1ffe58dfeec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:01:31 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? In-Reply-To: <003401c9026e$94fb6010$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <003401c9026e$94fb6010$6501a8c0@williamsteed> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:01:32 +0000 (UTC) I have not followed this thread all through, so please accept my apologies if someone should have already recommended the RNC. I like my FMR Audio RNC (Really Nice Compressor) very much. Before going all laptop I used it as the last unit to balance my final outgoing PA mix (merging EDP, Repeater, reverb loop return signal and live instrument signal). When using a less powerful laptop I simply ran the laptop stereo output through the RNC to give my sound transparency and more dynamics. Craig Anderton also likes the RNC and writes: "I've never heard any compressor produce something like Super Nice mode, which was definitely the way to go with program material. The effect reminded me of what you get with something like a "loudness maximizing" software plug-in, but with more analog character." "Bottom line: This box is awesome." http://www.fmraudio.com/ -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 07:13:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A3D43BEE0; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=D9R17c+u9+lghfqh+NxgMAEXYzCxbcz0EwWmu1yimHE=; b=lyLC4XRZwqC4+9q/aWahwumfAY7dWxo1/vuq0AHOQm/tLRP0qLqduMfVbT8VUQy9oI s107lmo9oIyiTxgVpEIg53eujEYu7vQEfdgjCJ7g5kM2t4O4bShD0s0T8o3nyZ89uGON Ll/l9RBszrJprmSZPzEV8ZXXVjhdop5vElYDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=OY3cm/B7/lwuXFzKIshOQFgCI29c6+9qHE6oHgj1ByAffOCAHImyITIATKyqVKZ3W8 ycshTepH/HJUz5zAb/nQV+lzKFeQtP6qrfW0/xk80vz6xzteK8udEn9AAhjNgIvldBvY KfFXmSTIXN0eJbwgwTGoJEwYP+1iI4EA8zugQ= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808200013m66da5f0end44b6b6f4b84f9c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:13:36 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tapping into your musical/improvisational ideas and skills for my classroom! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <338842.70671.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Funny, I had a guitar student this weekend and I taught him exactly this practice! He was good, so we took it to the next stage by introducing also triad rhythms. And the third stage is to implement the gained rhythm knowledge as up and down strokes with the pick. To teach that I like to ask them to not play a specific note on the guitar, simply pick a muted string and be aware of the rhythm. While following the metronome beat the student shall work on changing his picking frequency: 16ths leading into 8th triads, jumping through maybe just a half bar of 32ds etc etc. The goal is to build up intuitive reflexes to freely morph between these five or six rhythm frequencies. When applying this practice for the flute I work with vocal like tongue phrasing for rhythmatized attack. I always teach that rhythm is way more important to, initially, master than tonality, if striving for expressive and creative playing. per On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:39 AM, ^|>^m wrote: > One thing I like to do when I teach beginner guitar lessons is play a > recorded beat with a base line, say, in the key of C and then have the > student "solo" using a C and Bb. I emphasize tempo and demonstrate how > there are many variations one can achieve with just two tones. With more > people in the mix you could add a 4th, 5th, maj 3rd. > > Sometimes we put down the guitar and I'll stomp out a 1/4 note tempo with my > feet and then drum rhythms on my thighs. I have them produce 1/4th, 1/8th, > or 1/16th note variations. > > They naturally start producing patterns that modulate every 4 or 8 measures, > just like what they hear in popular music. > > They're not even close to mastering a scale on the fretboard, but they can > keep time with their hands or just two notes, use musical creativity, and > jam out. > > ^|>^m > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 08:22:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3D5F3BEE6; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em00 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:22:41 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200808200822.m7K8Mflj008419@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: TRAVEL TRANSFORMERS: who owns their own on this list and where do you live X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 193.158.99.226 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2dZWZ.A.6yF.UR9qIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:22:44 +0000 (UTC) At the risk of repeating myself: The use of SPS for me has been the way to go. With the exception of the FCB= 1010 (which has this stupid switch), everything in my (toouring) setup adap= ts to different voltages. In some cases (e.g. stompboxes), this required to= get a fitting SPS-type external power supply (at Radio Shack or whatever i= t's called in your region). Rainer ----- original Nachricht -------- > I was thinking it would be good to pool our resources and figure out > who has transformers where so that we could just mail them within From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 08:33:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24A4A3BEE7; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=JbD4X5npYtL+x0mXCqsMAkKmcr57PZrAi1h4PktWWA8=; b=cyEHrB8dOD/BYZn27y63pVI3N84TbsU6nKZ8qs99Jujo2yz4W6J8Hu8lhId5Bm/KOH 1VqO6OmG6Y85fQEmkQzgpqvLyWum+RAQvUCuEWp/Oy0LQACHijnxFd2QNnpWDNncOIu8 5nPjyh856Wq9Juk3nL+bBNKMuufeOrWcaKs3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=YehsXSmXi810W+T99zLRl4Yk8FIUZkSmYHM7XBuKkLvwEDb9WLlv570GvDgY5yFTc2 eMVucZlLJ6d9nxKTyJZ1AktWdNPViKag0tkn4ENAa6RutByTOwVVSB2w1gbtc2N1Dep8 +NWmnsBhBb5ZtdmB3uw3wKXQHS0ei97Sxez7o= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:32:58 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tabletop loopers In-Reply-To: <796B3909-96F1-4124-936F-518BCD3BD00E@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> <97DA4CDA-16AE-4697-BEF4-1F903A854AD9@zerocrossing.net> <796B3909-96F1-4124-936F-518BCD3BD00E@zerocrossing.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Just teasing, Mark. I must have had 10 questions so far this year (mostly on other lists) where I said "I'm not looking for software or max patches", and all the replies I got were "dude, max patches!" It gave me a giggle to see it happen to someone else. Yes, most of the stuff in my current rig is a computer of some sort, but they're all built to do specific things. I heart my hardware. Even though I'm a big fan of computer music, the idea of replacing all my gear with a universal tool of awesomeness doesn't appeal to me. If all the drum machines in the world were to burst into flames tomorrow, I'd find other instruments before I started getting involved with dr-660 emulators on my laptop. Matt Mark Sottilaro was all: > From his post it seemed he didn't want to tackle making a looper in Max MSP. > Anyone who even is aware of Max and the Lemur is already saying that > they've got some computer music knowledge. > > Do you really think your Boss DR-660 isn't a computer? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 09:34:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B2BC3BEE8; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:34:36 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:TRAVEL TRANSFORMERS: who owns their own on this list and where do you live MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:34:38 +0000 (UTC) > Rick wrote: > It might be a really cool thing, if people can afford it, for the > people who tend to put on looping festivals and performances to purchas= e > a transformer to keep on site. > > I was thinking it would be good to pool our resources and figure out > who has transformers where so that we could just mail them within > our respective continents to travelling musicians to save them the > price of constantly buying one every time you tour. Great idea Rick. I'll make sure I'll have a "Live Looping Transformer" av= ailable in Antwerp. Any info on brand and model? Just to make sure it wor= ks. > I would be more than happy to coordinate all of this information and be= > a resource for letting people know where to go if they need a transform= er. If you want I can add the info to the euroloopfest.com website > Maybe we can figure out a way to facilitate inter country looping jaunt= s for > each other. Euh...I don't follow you here. What do you mean? --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From sara_david5@yahoo.co.jp Wed Aug 20 09:41:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 597 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:41:49 UTC Received: from web2905.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp (web2905.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp [203.216.249.190]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A7D433BEBA for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97026 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Aug 2008 09:31:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=yj20050223; d=yahoo.co.jp; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S/EUONYMzNCHtvfxTvqewzL+F7MnVrBv/6swpaPc5LL8gsbF2jkdEJsukFUF4A2RBLey/b5X1qnjA5EUZy9Tb1gVFEd2juzXT4lGlnvsBDEJvQrZZN55cLvNjHxicczz ; Message-ID: <20080820093147.97024.qmail@web2905.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp> Received: from [213.136.119.170] by web2905.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp via HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:31:46 JST Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:31:46 +0900 (JST) From: Reply-To: sara_david40@yahoo.co.jp Subject: Dear Lovely One, To: sara_david@yahoo.co.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1568984924-1219224706=:96500" --0-1568984924-1219224706=:96500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Dear Lovely One, I am writing to seek your partnership in the investment of my inheritance fund USD$7.5M from my late father who died mysteriously last Dec. It was very evident that he was poisoned to death. In my culture, when a man dies, if he does not have a male child, the brothers shares his property leaving both the wife and the daughters empty handed including the house they live in. This is the exact case with me as I am the only daughter of my father. I lost my mother when I was barely a year old and my father refused to re-marry another wife because he felt solely responsible for my mother's death. This is so because he concentrated much on his businesses that he rarely pays attention to domestic affairs. He was always travelling taking care of his businesses that he did not notice when my mother took ill. He thought it was a minor illness and was ignorant of this. My mother on her own resorted to self-medication. It was not until the illness degenerated that my father took my mother to hospital where she was diagnosed to find out that hypatitis had eaten deep into her blood stream. She didn't last long before she died. This happened when I was barely a year old. Based on this, my father could not forgive himself easily because of it and said he was responsible for her death as he could have saved her if only he had paid attention to the things at home rather than concentrating much on his businesses. Despite all entreaties by friends and relatives, he refused to remarry but ensured that I had everything that I wanted. It was as a result of this that yhe made me the next of kin to his fund deposit with the bank and stated that in the event of any eventuality, I should have a direct access to the fund only when I am 24 years of age otherwise, I should have a guardian/partner intercede on my behalf for the release of the funds to me. Unfortunately, he died late last year and I am 21 years of age currently. This is why I have contacted you to serve as a guardian to me and as my foreign partner for the investment of the fund overseas My uncles does not know about the fund because they had already taken my father's houses and other properties because I am a girl and they said I do not have rights for any property. They have requested to have my father's bank papers but I simply told them that I do not know where he kept them. The younger brother took the house in the village while the houses in the town were sold out they shared the proceed they got from the sale. Right now, I am with a friend of mine and do sincerely want to travel out of my country. This can only happen when I have secured the release and transfer of the funds in the bank. This why it is important that we have a plan on the type of lucrative business that we can invest the funds on. I had at various times had discussions with the director of international remittance unit of the bank where my father deposited the funds and I was assured that once, I have someone who would be willing to receive the funds on my behalf, they shall commence all proceedings to effect the release and transfer of the funds into the person's designated account. Now, that you have signified your interest to partner with me, it would only be very necessary if you contact the bank and request for the release and transfer of my inheritance fund into your nominated account for the purpose of investment and to further have me come over to your country to continue with my studies. I shall be giving you the bank's contact details as soon as I hear back from you so that you will go ahead and contact the bank. Talk to you the more. Sara David --------------------------------- For All Sports Lovers! SPORTS OHEN PROJECT 2008 --0-1568984924-1219224706=:96500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-2022-jp
    Dear Lovely One,
     
    I am writing to seek your partnership in the investment of my
    inheritance fund USD$7.5M from my late father who died mysteriously
    last Dec.
    It was very evident that he was poisoned to death. In my culture, when
    a
    man dies, if he does not have a male child, the brothers shares his
    property leaving both the wife and the daughters empty handed including
    the house they live in. This is the exact case with me as I am the only
    daughter of my father. I lost my mother when I was barely a year old
    and
    my father refused to re-marry another wife because he felt solely
    responsible for my mother's death. This is so because he concentrated
    much
    on his businesses that he rarely pays attention to domestic affairs. He
    was always travelling taking care of his businesses that he did not
    notice when my mother took ill. He thought it was a minor illness and
    was
    ignorant of this. My mother on her own resorted to self-medication. It
    was not until the illness degenerated that my father took my mother to
    hospital where she was diagnosed to find out that hypatitis had eaten
    deep into her blood stream. She didn't last long before she died. This
    happened when I was barely a year old. Based on this, my father could
    not forgive himself easily because of it and said he was responsible
    for
    her death as he could have saved her if only he had paid attention to
    the things at home rather than concentrating much on his businesses.
     
    Despite all entreaties by friends and relatives, he refused to remarry
    but ensured that I had everything that I wanted. It was as a result of
    this that yhe made me the next of kin to his fund deposit with the bank
    and stated that in the event of any eventuality, I should have a direct
    access to the fund only when I am 24 years of age otherwise, I should
    have a guardian/partner intercede on my behalf for the release of the
    funds to me. Unfortunately, he died late last year and I am 21 years of
    age currently. This is why I have contacted you to serve as a guardian
    to me and as my foreign partner for the investment of the fund overseas
    My uncles does not know about the fund because they had already taken
    my father's houses and other properties because I am a girl and they
    said I do not have rights for any property. They have requested to have
    my
    father's bank papers but I simply told them that I do not know where he
    kept them. The younger brother took the house in the village while the
    houses in the town were sold out they shared the proceed they got from
    the sale. Right now, I am with a friend of mine and do sincerely want
    to travel out of my country. This can only happen when I have secured
    the release and transfer of the funds in the bank. This why it is
    important that we have a plan on the type of lucrative business that we
    can
    invest the funds on.
     
    I had at various times had discussions with the director of
    international remittance unit of the bank where my father deposited the
    funds and
    I was assured that once, I have someone who would be willing to receive
    the funds on my behalf, they shall commence all proceedings to effect
    the release and transfer of the funds into the person's designated
    account. Now, that you have signified your interest to partner with me,
    it
    would only be very necessary if you contact the bank and request for
    the
    release and transfer of my inheritance fund into your nominated account
    for the purpose of investment and to further have me come over to your
    country to continue with my studies.
     
    I shall be giving you the bank's contact details as soon as I hear back
    from you so that you will go ahead and contact the bank.
     
     
    Talk to you the more.
     
    Sara David
     

    For All Sports Lovers! SPORTS OHEN PROJECT 2008
    --0-1568984924-1219224706=:96500-- From jjmarr01@eircom.net Wed Aug 20 09:45:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 395 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:45:22 UTC Received: from mail13.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail13.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.29]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 849C63BEDD for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54747 messnum 9288476 invoked from network[86.43.60.100/webmail00.webmail.cra.eircom.net]); 20 Aug 2008 09:38:42 -0000 Received: from webmail00.webmail.cra.eircom.net (HELO webmailclassic.eircom.net) (86.43.60.100) by mail13.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 54747) with SMTP; 20 Aug 2008 09:38:42 -0000 From: "Thomas James" Reply-To: To: jjmarr01@eircom.net Subject: Contact Apex Courier For Your Package Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:38:52 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 81.91.235.239 X-Mailer: Eircom Net CRC Webmail (http://www.eircom.net/) Organization: Eircom Net (http://www.eircom.net/) Message-Id: <20080820094522.849C63BEDD@arsenic.violacea.com> Dear friend, How are you today ?.I'm writing to inform you that I have Paid the fee for your Draft Cheque. Yesterday, I went to the bank to confirm if the Cheque has expired or getting near to expire and Mr.Ahmed Zuma the Director of B.O.A Bank of Africa told me that before the cheque will get to your hand that it will expire. So I told him to cash the $950,000.00, to cash payment to avoid losing this funds under expiration as I will be out of the country for a 3 Months Course and I will not come back till end of October 2008. What you have to do now is to contact the Apex Courier Express as soon as possible to know when they will deliver your package to you immediatey.For your information, I have paid for the yellow tag fee and delivery Charge. The only money you will send to the Apex Courier Express to deliver your Consignment Package direct to your postal Address in your country is US$106 One Hundred & Six United States Dollars only being Security Keeping Fee for the Apex Service so far. I would have paid that but they said no because they don't know when you will contact them and in case of dumourrage on your Package with them. Please write a letter of application to the given address below: Company Name: Apex Courier Express Director: Dr.Nelson Fabian Email: apexoffibj@live.fr Contact Tel: 00229-9380-6648 Finally, make sure that you reconfirm your Postal address,nearest local and international airport, Direct telephone number contact address and picture or id to avoid wrong delivery, they will issue you a tracking #, to enable you track your consignment package box and know when it will get to your address. Let me repeat again, try to contact them as soon as you receive this mail to avoid any further delay and remember to pay them their Security Keeping fee of $106.00 for their immediate action to deliver urgently. Note this. The Apex Express don't know the contents of the Box. I registered it as a BOX of Africa cloths. They did not know the contents was money. this is to avoid them delaying with the BOX. Don't let them know that box contains money ok. Thanks and More Blesssing. Regards, Thomas James Jr ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 09:50:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A49C83BEF6; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6x8yD33KefXveiuyZM/JsKsme6xyEICh/S6eZeggfF0=; b=F3eC3dc+Rbk1cgmtSodR4pMquzc6k0IALk1YTuuzYAQ05dM6dcucSKKzY+3CozJiKp OMGw73+O5a7MAfX4XbCXzt1SYVjCBjQpnvjR0Xk9kDjGChKolXViJ+Lwx2Vnb2H4teCx Ev2Ms68WS02ZoZL6Wyx1OqgPypCFl/FPHNlS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=CKJkkoQQmTNkp263mfXANUT0RftVKpGOtE+edTX+RrRhguPbJmRifljB1foBkTyfS3 Do5uRod6qaIOiWneviCazl6fO9ELXulKjwJshblh32/sjos4UoX5RdtQvLbPXIchiFoA 4vHpkztCHqnrjmnSd4bWC+F3Z4oW5cq3nIU1E= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:50:23 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tabletop loopers In-Reply-To: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10760_21442639.1219225824032" References: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:50:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10760_21442639.1219225824032 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Rafael Cohen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > First post here :) > > OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually designed to > be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper... > Electrix Repeater? tabletop friendly... and comes fairly close to your feature set wishlist (with the latest software) sim ------=_Part_10760_21442639.1219225824032 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


    On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Rafael Cohen <rafael.cohen@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hi everyone,
     
    First post here :)
     
    OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually designed to be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper...


    Electrix Repeater? tabletop friendly... and comes fairly close to your feature set wishlist (with the latest software)

    sim 
    ------=_Part_10760_21442639.1219225824032-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 10:00:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 379063BEF7; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=Fm59mYYSKNVu1SH0sqDpbTRkRXiS/JfY1uK0na+Te+o=; b=Et4KrYz746RW8f8YZ/+LQ+W+7e2wxJqFPrMjJrqydETC5cykofETEBEk3x8BnITPYa errvETiCi2XzvVXNK2gx9bvYISs1mV1CYO5nq4gQgt6cWABzin4Ip2hNYMeFd6NFTHio YWXLH8eoF2tydajXBLuNuzfDzQK1NvNnOqh14= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Y3K8E6AbEP+jW0qFtSiEIp9Y60QBf52uyeQLrHoMxt/mOrwgHAlXajKFS37G5AyBDt 9fGPPgL4Md/bv1Q4odjA3GQJ3e/8b1MhOWnwYYnGcfEMtOIY5sJnl+ijiAVHH7nfvbSM 80PqkliQ6ehu0CLW5wreLqxPOZG1qEUbF3vw8= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:00:54 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: .. a la "molina" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_49186_31590352.1219226454298" Resent-Message-ID: <5IRWGB.A.rXH.Wt-qIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:00:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_49186_31590352.1219226454298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q-dYJdJecU -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_49186_31590352.1219226454298 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------=_Part_49186_31590352.1219226454298-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 10:20:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7B023BEF0; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:thread-index:Content-Language; b=EMZ1yxL4TYWQfopXojFHGFQOspq/EwAeWJCTdWdau/XBuOaHlxtgW+yc3HJCL2w/pjCEt5yWmMBssibNu3BU1MRhOYjuZAqT4kE9ZwgrhvqM78fhcXxmlOYKXQrjcaiY/LNOk1vS+7Fi/oBjTE5jOI9OfP29lMdhwu1FEdvFmes= ; X-YMail-OSG: OmO_K2UVM1lpOtMGMuBr0G88nmx7RxqIYJovFiRC8_5jJlLyfssiRciMJU44YvYtdeVHqasVoPtVXThnU_ZuA_QV3HBlN3kveAofATqBqmagGIF3aTATvy8C9YsvLbckcgfqMG8dsHHQfO0O1zWUcWPr X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <00d101c9026d$ccffd960$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <00d101c9026d$ccffd960$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: RE: TRAVEL TRANSFORMERS: who owns their own on this list and where do you live Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:20:45 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c902ae$698308d0$3c891a70$@guitar.guru@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AckCbczzfTsebN2uQnCUvnr14M8JvQAQE0dA Content-Language: en-gb Resent-Message-ID: <2PGFbC.A.4qH.EA_qIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:20:52 +0000 (UTC) I have one in Tokyo, if anyone is ever out that far. As Rick has said, anyone who needs one in Northern Ireland can borrow one from me no problem. Ricky Graham info@rickygraham.net +44(0)7743537349 www.rickygraham.net -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: 20 August 2008 03:38 To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: TRAVEL TRANSFORMERS: who owns their own on this list and where do you live I own two transformers for converting 110 volts (US/Canada) to 220 volts (European/UK) one is with Rick Graham in Derry, Northern Ireland one is with Luca Formentini in Descanzo, Italy both are rated at 1,000 watts, plenty for almost anyone's live looping rig (even Mir O's gargantuan analogue rig) the Y2K LOOPING FESTIVAL SERIES owns one transformer for converting 220 volts (European/UK) to 110 volts (US/Canada) it is with me in Santa Cruz, California I was thinking it would be good to pool our resources and figure out who has transformers where so that we could just mail them within our respective continents to travelling musicians to save them the price of constantly buying one every time you tour. I would be more than happy to coordinate all of this information and be a resource for letting people know where to go if they need a transformer. They are just too big, heavy and expensive to fly on planes with the current draconian weight limits that are now imposed on travelling musicians. Maybe we can figure out a way to facilitate inter country looping jaunts for each other. Yours, Rick Walker -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1621 - Release Date: 19/08/2008 18:53 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 11:07:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2177E3BEF9; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006c01c902b4$f2b05120$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Looping Videos from my Europe/UK tour Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:07:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:07:33 +0000 (UTC) I just started a page at youtube for anyone interested in seeing some of the performances from my recent tour of Scandinavia, Germany and the UK. It's at www.youtube.com/DaygloOrangePlastic Currently, I have 2 clips from the Looping Festival in Oslo, Norway and the 2nd Koln Live Looping Festival in Koln, Germany. I want to profusely thank both the videographers who shot these two clips, Mark Francombe in Oslo and Walter Bruehn (who also edited the clips) in Koln as well as Jan Weise (Oslo) and Michael Peters (Koln) who respectively produced these two wonderfully creative multi-artist festivals. Also, I wrote an extensive blog of my whole two month tour and I'll be posting that soon if anyone is interested in reading about the tour and the fantastic places we saw and the amazing people we hung out and played with. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 11:21:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 403D33BEFA; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OT3O6O8lAAAA:8 a=0PWs8MGWAAAA:8 a=Bqf-clJlAAAA:8 a=g_-f-3deXPU9lUZWg0oA:9 a=op-8wrsMFJn5SYsOqRied3VZFo8A:4 a=7mayv77iRtYA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> <97DA4CDA-16AE-4697-BEF4-1F903A854AD9@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0971756E-BA57-4179-BD79-49CF0126642F@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Tabletop loopers Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:20:57 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:21:02 +0000 (UTC) You have no idea how much you are missing out on. On Aug 19, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > This is funny. No matter what list I'm on or which question is being > asked, claims of, "I'm not a software person" always result in > suggestions of software. > > Some of us like to be luddites! > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > > Rafael Cohen was all: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> First post here :) >>> >>> OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually >>> designed to >>> be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper... > >>> ...I am NOT a software person.... > > > Then Mark Sottilaro went: > >> No problem if you're not a software person. Someone's done if for >> you. >> He's a very nice man, he gives it away for free. >> >> http://www.zonemobius.com >> >> Or if you want a more "tape" style... >> >> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/augustusloop.html >> >> But that'll set you back $29 >> >> One day I dream of having a Lemur... but then I remember both my >> hands are >> usually busy with a guitar anyway. If only humans were monkeys >> instead of >> apes we'd have prehensile tails! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 11:54:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9222D3BF00; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: please add Das Hertz as your myspace friend Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:54:02 +0200 Message-ID: <003c01c902bb$71444810$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckCu3AokHrMLLi8TmSUo/3SG8EFuQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.23; VDF: 7.0.6.37) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:54:06 +0000 (UTC) http://www.myspace.com/dashertz is a Cologne based improvisation/nujazz/krautrock/psychedelic fun band where I play guitar and loops ... please add us to your myspace friends list -Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 13:25:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB4A03BF01; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ch0oVUoIx9sAxZqHHpcA5i3XVG9BaRAS6d3GCjY+B3Q=; b=BkCmzl9b6c7ihHyP4FluymoQjbOGOSfjesMSAO165TrC4NHURd8QIUuaZTmrlBTHWe 8SMZbg+XxXks4s2eh1Di+kDfWppPut3z0w+x+aupsS+SrFH65W+OjDePNKwk6Zoa2jyv jb6BuVCzEFhJF+6H0OYcYiB9xKKh0pzEAkh8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=DDcZKDfMT0UjCbzR7cLnsNFz2uU2Lj4knHgZa/eXmeQ9LWZOk4gp6Cj9PRtzImgTLm 3UF0z1fGkiYucyfqOlGNsA2qgxnTeuPRCF/IhkS35CDvsd5rOQZY9/uG4zBDQhIb80vT OKP8fJPsXM+1gIYJ3KpJjpjh1Pnwol+s14MJ4= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:25:04 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Videos from my Europe/UK tour In-Reply-To: <006c01c902b4$f2b05120$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_50411_9055266.1219238704837" References: <006c01c902b4$f2b05120$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:25:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_50411_9055266.1219238704837 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline please upload that blog .. sure there is lots of interest among LD community. by the way, regarding the koln complete series. are the other performances available as visuals+audio? I remember Michael told there was a plan for doing a footage dvd of the entire concert. is already done? raul. 2008/8/20 Rick Walker > I just started a page at youtube for anyone interested in seeing > some of the performances from my recent tour of Scandinavia, Germany > and the UK. > > It's at > > www.youtube.com/DaygloOrangePlastic > > > Currently, I have 2 clips from the Looping Festival in Oslo, Norway > and the 2nd Koln Live Looping Festival in Koln, Germany. > > > I want to profusely thank both the videographers who shot > these two clips, Mark Francombe in Oslo and Walter Bruehn > (who also edited the clips) in Koln as well as > Jan Weise (Oslo) and Michael Peters (Koln) who respectively produced these > two wonderfully creative multi-artist festivals. > > > Also, I wrote an extensive blog of my whole two month tour and I'll be > posting that > soon if anyone is interested in reading about the tour and the fantastic > places we > saw and the amazing people we hung out and played with. > > > yours, Rick Walker > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_50411_9055266.1219238704837 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    please upload that blog .. sure there is lots of interest among LD community.

    by the way, regarding the koln complete series. 
    are the other performances available as visuals+audio?
    I remember Michael told there was a plan for doing a footage dvd of the entire concert. 
    is already done?

    raul.
     

    2008/8/20 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
    I just started a page at youtube for anyone interested in seeing
    some of the performances from my recent tour of Scandinavia, Germany
    and the UK.

    It's at

    www.youtube.com/DaygloOrangePlastic


    Currently,  I have 2 clips from the Looping Festival in Oslo, Norway
    and the 2nd Koln Live Looping Festival in Koln, Germany.


    I want to profusely thank both the videographers who shot
    these two clips,    Mark Francombe in Oslo and Walter Bruehn
    (who also edited the clips) in Koln  as well as
    Jan Weise (Oslo) and Michael Peters (Koln) who respectively produced these
    two wonderfully creative multi-artist festivals.


    Also, I wrote an extensive blog of my whole two month tour and I'll be posting that
    soon if anyone is interested in reading about the tour and the fantastic places we
    saw and the amazing people we hung out and played with.


    yours,  Rick Walker



    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
    ------=_Part_50411_9055266.1219238704837-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 13:42:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 659903BF0F; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:42:35 EDT Subject: Re: Looping Videos from my Europe/UK tour To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c6a.39b2b333.35dd794b_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:42:47 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c6a.39b2b333.35dd794b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/20/08 7:07:48 AM, looppool@cruzio.com writes: > www.youtube.com/DaygloOrangePlastic > wow E zow E.....great stuff! "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) --part1_c6a.39b2b333.35dd794b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    In a message dated 8/20/08 7:07:48 AM, looppool@cruzio.com writes:


    www.youtube.com/Daygl= oOrangePlastic


    wow E zow E.....great stuff!



    "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY

    new groovy tunes at:
    http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
    www.ct-collective.com





    **************
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OAT WILLY > > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > ************** > It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel > deal here. > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) --Apple-Mail-2-414926638 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> Top work indeed<div><br><div> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; = orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; = orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Matt = Stevens</div><div>www.mattstevensguitar.com</div><div><a = href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 20 Aug 2008, = at 14:42, <a href=3D"mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com">Nemoguitt@aol.com</a> = wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000" = face=3D"Geneva" family=3D"SANSSERIF" size=3D"2"><br> In a message dated = 8/20/08 7:07:48 AM, <a = href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a> writes:<br> = <br> <br> </font><blockquote cite=3D"" style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" = type=3D"CITE"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Geneva" family=3D"SANSSERIF"= size=3D"2">www.youtube.com/DaygloOrangePlastic<br> = </font></blockquote><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Geneva" = family=3D"SANSSERIF" size=3D"2"></font><font color=3D"#000000" = face=3D"Geneva" family=3D"SANSSERIF" size=3D"2"><br> <br> </font><font = color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Geneva" family=3D"SANSSERIF" size=3D"2">wow E = zow E.....great stuff!<br> <br> <br> <br> "one man, one oat!" 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Find your travel deal here.<br> (<a = href=3D"http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=3Daoltrv0005000000004= 7">http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=3Daoltrv00050000000047</a>= )</font></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-2-414926638-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 14:06:21 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5176D3BF07; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <a.willers@arcor.de> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <D1243231-02F2-4BED-A5E7-9BD2FA5B5D5E@arcor.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers <a.willers@arcor.de> Subject: RE: RE: TRAVEL TRANSFORMERS: who owns their own on this list and where do you live Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:06:17 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8058/Tue Aug 19 17:20:36 2008 on mail-in-13.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <TNJorC.A.R9G.dTCrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I have three of these in different sizes here in Berlin since I use them with my original wheeny 110V US amps :-) Two 100 W and one 300 W (I don't know if that will be enough for a big rack though). Best, Andreas Willers From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 14:22:04 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B2BC3BF13; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <khartung@cableone.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <497D1DEE23C343728AA1C770B221C2F1@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <003401c9026e$94fb6010$6501a8c0@williamsteed> <66f9cc1e0808200001m618456bcxe44fb1ffe58dfeec@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good compressor to use alongside an EDP? Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:21:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <BxDaQD.A.JZH.MiCrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Good grief, Per, I could I have forgotten the RNC? I used two of as well. I take back my recommendation of the DBX, as my memory appears to be shot and going as I get older. :) The RNC is a kick butt little compressor, and only half space. I love those things. Kris ----- Original Message ----- >I have not followed this thread all through, so please accept my > apologies if someone should have already recommended the RNC. > > I like my FMR Audio RNC (Really Nice Compressor) very much. Before > going all laptop I used it as the last unit to balance my final > outgoing PA mix (merging EDP, Repeater, reverb loop return signal and > live instrument signal). When using a less powerful laptop I simply > ran the laptop stereo output through the RNC to give my sound > transparency and more dynamics. > > Craig Anderton also likes the RNC and writes: > > "I've never heard any compressor produce something like Super Nice > mode, which was definitely the way to go with program material. The > effect reminded me of what you get with something like a "loudness > maximizing" software plug-in, but with more analog character." > "Bottom line: This box is awesome." > > http://www.fmraudio.com/ > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 14:44:40 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2BC93BF18; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <HDean@wcupa.edu> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C902D3.3E048D09" Subject: CAE Foot controllers Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:44:27 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDC27@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <20080712142535.83C9E3BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: CAE Foot controllers Thread-Index: AcjkKy2I50inmyUjQwy6bMSiBE7d5gep073A References: <20080712142535.83C9E3BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "Dean, Hal " <HDean@wcupa.edu> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2008 14:44:33.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[42482870:01C902D3] Resent-Message-ID: <RaKFCB.A.KSB.Y3CrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:44:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C902D3.3E048D09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm back to looking into half-rack space mixers. One of these days maybe I'll find boss MX-10 for sale. Absent that ive looked at the CAE mixer, but the price is $449 and out of reach for now. =20 But while at the CAE site I noticed they have some foot pedals in current production that don't get talked about in the frequent discussions of the FCB-1010 and dimensions vs. functionality. It looks like the CAE RS-10 may have equivalent functionality (sans pedals ) in a 12"x13x3.5" box,. That seems more easy on the flight plans. It is expensive but Zoe might want to look at it before sawing off her FCB-1010 pedals. =20 Hal Dean ------_=_NextPart_001_01C902D3.3E048D09 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Palatino Linotype"; panose-1:2 4 5 2 5 5 5 3 3 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I’m back to = looking into half-rack space mixers. One of these days maybe I’ll find  = boss MX-10 for sale. Absent that ive looked at the CAE mixer, but the price = is $449 and out of reach for now.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>But while at the CAE = site I noticed they have some foot pedals in current production that don’t get = talked about in the frequent discussions of the FCB-1010 and dimensions vs. functionality. It looks like the CAE RS-10 may have equivalent = functionality (sans pedals ) in a 12”x13x3.5” box,. That seems more easy on the = flight plans. It is expensive but Zoe might want to look at it before sawing = off her FCB-1010 pedals.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-family:"Palatino = Linotype","serif"; color:#1F497D'>Hal Dean<o:p></o:p></span></i></p> </div> </body> </html> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C902D3.3E048D09-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 15:07:45 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F35FF3BF14; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <travishartnett@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=WasDBedmLZpKDL3WBwX4P0SNAlK4S/LxRAmkSSM/dhY=; b=co6SUhG6pqiHTWwmd71Md1l82rpmjluzGKuoTxxDZQTpJICeIhrCxPggtSCnIAck8F Gu5dF7AMm7FfiRmBO98fLm507YqsJBB3p1ITTWcbzn2kuFY/wHYwNjJSeyjgZEhSebyV byh8Zr3SaTytKjFM+D75BoIKXAWQTGli40WpU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=u5FEw2dIC6yjdkHpspeQaRmMmzd+R45gs35ezfCU87skgeW2GBQJugy+adGqbSCk99 bj8seMr3ubkNJFHW6pH05YLCFcXPH8OagVscR2/BsxIovRQ8z8upWGPcm3LNH51iNZP8 FTL2u+q7hmHIDXMTKCoambQVQblJFjnA6JjIE= Message-ID: <d1396fc00808200807m774b4696odb8258dda0557f26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:07:43 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" <travishartnett@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CAE Foot controllers In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDC27@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_35379_15767123.1219244863354" References: <20080712142535.83C9E3BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDC27@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Resent-Message-ID: <Epq1T.A.nuB.ANDrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:07:44 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_35379_15767123.1219244863354 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've got a Rane half-space mixer--4 stereo channels, two sends. They pop up on eBay. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Dean, Hal <HDean@wcupa.edu> wrote: > I'm back to looking into half-rack space mixers. One of these days maybe > I'll find boss MX-10 for sale. Absent that ive looked at the CAE mixer, but > the price is $449 and out of reach for now. > > > ------=_Part_35379_15767123.1219244863354 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr">I've got a Rane half-space mixer--4 stereo channels, two sends.  They pop up on eBay.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Dean, Hal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:HDean@wcupa.edu">HDean@wcupa.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"> <div> <p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I'm back to looking into half-rack space mixers. One of these days maybe I'll find  boss MX-10 for sale. Absent that ive looked at the CAE mixer, but the price is $449 and out of reach for now.</span></p> <p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> ------=_Part_35379_15767123.1219244863354-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 15:56:48 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 300A03BF17; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <qua@oregon.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" <qua@oregon.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <20080712142535.83C9E3BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDC27@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDC27@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Subject: Gordius LG midi controller for sale Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:56:58 -0700 Message-ID: <011a01c902dd$60bcbe60$22363b20$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011B_01C902A2.B45DE660" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcjkKy2I50inmyUjQwy6bMSiBE7d5gep073AAAJzdHA= Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: <q7kgc.A.wrC._6DrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:56:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C902A2.B45DE660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Due to increasing demands from my job and travel, I'm just not going to be able to put the Gordius LG to use as I originally planned. It is arguably the most powerful , and upgradable , controller out there. Xavier continues to do an amazing job of continuous improvement for the firmware and computer control software. This LG is absolutely in perfect condition and has only been turned on to update the firmware. Virtually brand new. I'm asking $650 and free shipping in the US. (orig. $699 + $99 shipping) For more information, visit www.gordius.be . you can contact me offlist at qua @oregon.com -Qua ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C902A2.B45DE660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p {mso-style-priority:99; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Due to increasing = demands from my job and travel, I’m just not going to be able to put the = Gordius LG to use as I originally planned.  It is arguably the most powerful , = and upgradable , controller out there.  <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Xavier continues to = do an amazing job of continuous improvement for the firmware and computer control = software. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>This LG is absolutely = in perfect condition and has only been turned on to update the firmware.  = Virtually brand new. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I’m asking $650 = and free shipping in the US.   (orig. $699 + $99 shipping) = <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>For more information, = visit <a href=3D"http://www.gordius.be">www.gordius.be</a>  .   = you can contact me offlist at   qua @oregon.com<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>-Qua = <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C902A2.B45DE660-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 17:32:57 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 473CA3BF15; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <sine@zerocrossing.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <c70e517b0808200132h6d589b13ubdb68d0dbebf7fbe@mail.gmail.com> References: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> <97DA4CDA-16AE-4697-BEF4-1F903A854AD9@zerocrossing.net> <c70e517b0808191729q295f6397ge9640c946d7b4b4a@mail.gmail.com> <796B3909-96F1-4124-936F-518BCD3BD00E@zerocrossing.net> <c70e517b0808200132h6d589b13ubdb68d0dbebf7fbe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9B18FC9D-9B6E-4E81-847C-811D036A0D75@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Tabletop loopers Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:32:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <3hLJf.A.bpE.JVFrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Normally, if there is a hardware solution and the person said, "I don't want to use a laptop." I wouldn't touch it but I did translate the "I'm not a computer guy" phrase with the "Max MSP" bit to mean he's not up for trying to build the thing in Max himself. I'll give a plus one to the Electroharmonix loopers though if you want a tabletop solution. Hell, I'll even go as far as to suggest a used Electrix Repeater if you can find one at a decent price on Ebay. Either is going to be less expensive than a laptop, MaxMSP and a JazzMutant Lemur. but but but... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbewC2OPFGA That makes me drool. ALL HAIL THE UNIVERSAL TOOL OF AWESOMENESS! Truthfully though, when I'm using Mobius it's interface is on a separate monitor and to me it's indistinguishable from a piece of rack gear being controlled by my Behringer FCB1010. The FCB1010 is dedicated to Mobius as is the monitor. I've got a second FCB1010 that only controls Amplitube X-GEAR and KORE 2/Remote25 SL to mess with synths. The only thing that pushed me away from gear (you've seen my old rig) is that I discovered "virtual" patching and I can't go back to a world without it. On Aug 20, 2008, at 1:32 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Just teasing, Mark. > > I must have had 10 questions so far this year (mostly on other lists) > where I said "I'm not looking for software or max patches", and all > the replies I got were "dude, max patches!" It gave me a giggle to see > it happen to someone else. > > Yes, most of the stuff in my current rig is a computer of some sort, > but they're all built to do specific things. I heart my hardware. Even > though I'm a big fan of computer music, the idea of replacing all my > gear with a universal tool of awesomeness doesn't appeal to me. > > If all the drum machines in the world were to burst into flames > tomorrow, I'd find other instruments before I started getting involved > with dr-660 emulators on my laptop. > > Matt > > Mark Sottilaro was all: >> From his post it seemed he didn't want to tackle making a looper >> in Max MSP. >> Anyone who even is aware of Max and the Lemur is already saying that >> they've got some computer music knowledge. >> >> Do you really think your Boss DR-660 isn't a computer? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 17:34:43 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD3733BF1B; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:34:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:32:29 -0500 Subject: RE: CAE Foot controllers Thread-Topic: CAE Foot controllers Thread-Index: AcjkKy2I50inmyUjQwy6bMSiBE7d5gep073AAAVzO4A= Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B88A93042@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <20080712142535.83C9E3BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDC27@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDC27@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <PwAsvB.A.YzE.zWFrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:34:43 +0000 (UTC) > But while at the CAE site I noticed they have some foot pedals in > current production that don't get talked about in the frequent > discussions of the FCB-1010 and dimensions vs. functionality. Apart from a $750 price tag, the thing I didn't like about it when I was researching foot pedals long, long ago was that it appears to use the same indestructable-but-clanky metal switches used in the Ground Control Pro and the Rocktron All Access. These combined with a mostly hollow metal case make the Ground Control Pro a very noisy beast for low amplification performance or recording. I've not actually used the CAE so they could be doing some damping to keep the clank down, but I would make sure there is a good return policy before buying one. Otherwise it is a very powerful pedal in a great size. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 17:37:39 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF0A73BF21; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:37:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <sine@zerocrossing.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <0971756E-BA57-4179-BD79-49CF0126642F@comcast.net> References: <53cb34390808191511g61344a0aubb90e3610c989f5d@mail.gmail.com> <97DA4CDA-16AE-4697-BEF4-1F903A854AD9@zerocrossing.net> <c70e517b0808191729q295f6397ge9640c946d7b4b4a@mail.gmail.com> <0971756E-BA57-4179-BD79-49CF0126642F@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <25FD2CFF-FFC4-43EB-90C5-DCCF3352630E@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Tabletop loopers Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:37:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <lcT16D.A.06E.jZFrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:37:39 +0000 (UTC) It's also pretty funny to call yourself a Luddite when you've got a webpage and a setup that would be silent if it weren't for batteries and A/C power. Sorry Matt, I've got to razz you for that. The Luddites were against mechanized looms! Not loops! ;) On Aug 20, 2008, at 4:20 AM, Chris Sewell wrote: > You have no idea how much you are missing out on. > On Aug 19, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > >> This is funny. No matter what list I'm on or which question is being >> asked, claims of, "I'm not a software person" always result in >> suggestions of software. >> >> Some of us like to be luddites! >> >> Matt Davignon >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> >> >> Rafael Cohen was all: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> First post here :) >>>> >>>> OK, so I have this dream of a tabletop looper that is actually >>>> designed to >>>> be used _on a tabletop_ and as a looper... >> >>>> ...I am NOT a software person.... >> >> >> Then Mark Sottilaro went: >> >>> No problem if you're not a software person. Someone's done if >>> for you. >>> He's a very nice man, he gives it away for free. >>> >>> http://www.zonemobius.com >>> >>> Or if you want a more "tape" style... >>> >>> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/augustusloop.html >>> >>> But that'll set you back $29 >>> >>> One day I dream of having a Lemur... but then I remember both my >>> hands are >>> usually busy with a guitar anyway. If only humans were monkeys >>> instead of >>> apes we'd have prehensile tails! >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 18:07:27 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63B383BF1D; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <mp@mpeters.de> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" <mp@mpeters.de> To: "Loopers Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <afb941d0808200625o16e3c09fs40a8c3967ccdb4c8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Looping Videos from my Europe/UK tour Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:07:23 +0200 Message-ID: <008701c902ef$98d672c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0088_01C90300.5C5F42C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckC6+PSm3Pn18N9TliQrKCxUB08jAAA5PDw In-Reply-To: <afb941d0808200625o16e3c09fs40a8c3967ccdb4c8@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.23; VDF: 7.0.6.44) Resent-Message-ID: <pdEDhC.A.HHG.f1FrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:07:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C90300.5C5F42C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I remember Michael told there was a plan for doing a footage dvd of the entire concert. is already done? Walter has finished all single DVDs for the artists. We are now waiting for everyone to decide which parts of their sets will be on the sampler DVD. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C90300.5C5F42C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.5700.7" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN = class=3D671280618-20082008></SPAN><FONT=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>><SPAN class=3D671280618-20082008> =20 </SPAN></FONT></FONT>I remember Michael told there was a plan for doing = a=20 footage dvd of the entire concert. is already done?<SPAN=20 class=3D671280618-20082008><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN = class=3D671280618-20082008></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D671280618-20082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Walter has finished all single DVDs for the artists. We are now = waiting=20 for everyone to decide which parts of their sets will be on the sampler=20 DVD.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN = class=3D671280618-20082008></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D671280618-20082008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>-Michael</FONT> </SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C90300.5C5F42C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 19:16:49 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EAC73BF1E; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <HDean@wcupa.edu> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C902F9.2EDD6D0E" Subject: Game controllers and MIDI Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:16:01 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDDD7@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <20080712142535.83C9E3BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Game controllers and MIDI Thread-Index: AcjkKy2I50inmyUjQwy6bMSiBE7d5gexdQNQ References: <20080712142535.83C9E3BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "Dean, Hal " <HDean@wcupa.edu> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2008 19:16:44.0809 (UTC) FILETIME=[48CA2790:01C902F9] Resent-Message-ID: <LfZwND.A.dtH.g2GrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:16:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C902F9.2EDD6D0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is anyone on LD using a game controller coupled with conversion-to-MIDI software to control Mobius, an EDP, Bidule, VSTs or the like? If so, any insights on what works and doesn't would be welcome. =20 Hal Dean =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C902F9.2EDD6D0E Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:x=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" = xmlns:p=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint" = xmlns:a=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:access" = xmlns:dt=3D"uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" = xmlns:s=3D"uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" = xmlns:rs=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z=3D"#RowsetSchema" = xmlns:b=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:publisher" = xmlns:ss=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" = xmlns:c=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" = xmlns:oa=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:activation" = xmlns:html=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" = xmlns:q=3D"http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:D=3D"DAV:" = xmlns:x2=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel/2003/xml" = xmlns:ois=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" = xmlns:dir=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/directory/" = xmlns:ds=3D"http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" = xmlns:dsp=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/dsp" = xmlns:udc=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" = xmlns:xsd=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" = xmlns:sub=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/2002/1/alerts/"= xmlns:ec=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" = xmlns:sp=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" = xmlns:sps=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" = xmlns:xsi=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" = xmlns:udcxf=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" = xmlns:wf=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" = xmlns:mver=3D"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006= " xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns:mrels=3D"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/relationshi= ps" = xmlns:ex12t=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types"= = xmlns:ex12m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messag= es" xmlns:Z=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" xmlns:st=3D"" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Palatino Linotype"; panose-1:2 4 5 2 5 5 5 3 3 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Is anyone on LD using = a game controller coupled with conversion-to-MIDI software to control Mobius, = an EDP, Bidule, VSTs or the like? If so, any insights on what works and = doesn’t would be welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-family:"Palatino = Linotype","serif"; color:#1F497D'>Hal Dean</span></i></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> </body> </html> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C902F9.2EDD6D0E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 19:20:26 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED2633BF23; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <highhorse@mhorse.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48AC6E76.2040600@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:20:22 -0500 From: Daryl <highhorse@mhorse.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: hey References: <002201c9018c$ebfbb280$c3f31780$@com> <9e0440a60808181659q5f99d55dh146a41e82062ce8f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60808181659q5f99d55dh146a41e82062ce8f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <np3emB.A.44H.55GrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:20:25 +0000 (UTC) hi Jim, just wanted to say hi. Always surprising when I dont' hear from you in a few days! I heard back from Echo Curio and it seems like there's a good chance we'll get in there on Thursday the 16th. Still no response from Beyond Baroque, which is surprising as they've always been good about responding. I'll hit them again Friday. Have you had the chance to talk to Alvas? I guess you may be on your way already, if so I hope the travel goes well. Daryl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 19:22:32 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A72B93BF28; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <highhorse@mhorse.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48AC6EF5.1000705@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:22:29 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: hey References: <002201c9018c$ebfbb280$c3f31780$@com> <9e0440a60808181659q5f99d55dh146a41e82062ce8f@mail.gmail.com> <48AC6E76.2040600@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <48AC6E76.2040600@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <ifihSD.A.9E.47GrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:22:32 +0000 (UTC) CRAP! sorry everyone...obviously offlist... Move along... redfaced, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > hi Jim, just wanted to say hi. Always surprising when I dont' hear > from you in a few days! I heard back from Echo Curio and it seems like > there's a good chance we'll get in there on Thursday the 16th. Still > no response from Beyond Baroque, which is surprising as they've always > been good about responding. I'll hit them again Friday. Have you had > the chance to talk to Alvas? > > I guess you may be on your way already, if so I hope the travel goes > well. > > Daryl > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 19:24:07 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 566033BF22; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <midifriedchicken@comcast.net> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=pwyN65UBYr39ikArvFoA:9 a=B_kTb_XD_amNUf4gETAH8AnxY8MA:4 a=6bqG61NMjcsA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48AC6EF5.1000705@mhorse.com> References: <002201c9018c$ebfbb280$c3f31780$@com> <9e0440a60808181659q5f99d55dh146a41e82062ce8f@mail.gmail.com> <48AC6E76.2040600@mhorse.com> <48AC6EF5.1000705@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <A41C74C7-995B-4290-BD59-9B6CE65127F4@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell <midifriedchicken@comcast.net> Subject: Re: hey Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:24:03 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <JNl9z.A.xL.X9GrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Could've been worse. You could have sent us that OTHER email. wink wink. On Aug 20, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > CRAP! > > sorry everyone...obviously offlist... > > Move along... > > redfaced, > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> hi Jim, just wanted to say hi. Always surprising when I dont' hear >> from you in a few days! I heard back from Echo Curio and it seems >> like there's a good chance we'll get in there on Thursday the >> 16th. Still no response from Beyond Baroque, which is surprising >> as they've always been good about responding. I'll hit them again >> Friday. Have you had the chance to talk to Alvas? >> >> I guess you may be on your way already, if so I hope the travel >> goes well. >> >> Daryl >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 19:24:26 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02BFB3BF3A; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=DjcxIo5j96/du1+eyrAlAZE+ZJX11+YbG+j4vIYT5GbveUgaZQoa9/d+e/1FqmaChH8QAJq/YWnkds7rMsVR9EzFhlWR7dHT1P1LR6PE15BSmgCBJUVcsKLYRdZhUhnS; Message-ID: <20080820142419.jov0u3ll6scwg0kk@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:24:19 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: hey References: <002201c9018c$ebfbb280$c3f31780$@com> <9e0440a60808181659q5f99d55dh146a41e82062ce8f@mail.gmail.com> <48AC6E76.2040600@mhorse.com> <48AC6EF5.1000705@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <48AC6EF5.1000705@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: <qyoBTB.A.-N.p9GrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Oh well... Our lives are open books here. :) -- Kevin Quoting Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>: > > CRAP! > > sorry everyone...obviously offlist... > > Move along... > > redfaced, > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> hi Jim, just wanted to say hi. Always surprising when I dont' hear >> from you in a few days! I heard back from Echo Curio and it seems >> like there's a good chance we'll get in there on Thursday the 16th. >> Still no response from Beyond Baroque, which is surprising as >> they've always been good about responding. I'll hit them again >> Friday. Have you had the chance to talk to Alvas? >> >> I guess you may be on your way already, if so I hope the travel goes well. >> >> Daryl >> >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 19:45:18 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F2763BF26; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <highhorse@mhorse.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48AC744B.4080304@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:45:15 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: hey References: <002201c9018c$ebfbb280$c3f31780$@com> <9e0440a60808181659q5f99d55dh146a41e82062ce8f@mail.gmail.com> <48AC6E76.2040600@mhorse.com> <48AC6EF5.1000705@mhorse.com> <20080820142419.jov0u3ll6scwg0kk@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20080820142419.jov0u3ll6scwg0kk@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <CLCYQD.A.iEB.ORHrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:45:18 +0000 (UTC) hehe...you are so right. Thanks for being understanding folks. Nothing makes you scour your own writing like suddenly realizing you sent it to 1500 people. and Chris, if my other email had gone out instead, you'd all be rich off my newest Nigerian bank-transfer opportunity. Thank god word of THAT didn't leak out. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Oh well... > > Our lives are open books here. :) > > -- Kevin > > Quoting Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>: >> >> CRAP! >> >> sorry everyone...obviously offlist... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 20:23:29 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5DF33BF27; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <vocaloop@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=BYAWZ/S3UjVpp1KZVw07cxXzCYC1vQYVYGbEiGIwYns=; b=xBfkQzClNDvQafLkicEflb0eS9nO/zIMu4AUfx2OF3tZxRe52wi0PCcMiAF74oCAC3 khyTKNrGoCYphdRDhIZ8tPSYHGsCPW4wcu9ecuk6noSUUfLaem8wnErq/QxWW5JJo7Da 1SpJB6vVesnhrH3YIml7PFyHkhatJDsPeAtFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=nMuLy8f8hqPuCcHg4gD4mfmE5abDatti7HJy68OwXWMC7Dpf06hLHSIPsc8lvGtk9T bqemvlHXSuff+oS6QB+QdzBXiJ8JDqS4MISl3qeRnRgo4lZ2U6XUFbv4o+gF2g+6Mi1N htJ7dFHWZ66eLjc1NJ2tPn3gfu136G8jlJBMo= Message-ID: <c41e042c0808201323w276f4074l5a41f581b357be6e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:23:27 +0200 From: Vocaloop.com <info@vocaloop.com> Sender: vocaloop@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Game controllers and MIDI In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDDD7@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080712142535.83C9E3BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDDD7@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ae36a8db72c9643c Resent-Message-ID: <0wXtfB.A.qwC.B1HrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:23:29 +0000 (UTC) I used a Wolfking Warrior in combination with Bome MIDI Translator to control M=F6bius and FX. Works really well, actually, but I needed more distance between the controller and my laptop (10 meters) and I was told that USB is not that reliable anymore then, so I switched back to a MIDI controller which works fine with a 10 meter cable. But, when you don't need the distance, it's a cheap solution and it's very responsive.. http://www.wolfkingusa.com/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&task=3Dview&id=3D= 9&Itemid=3D7 http://www.bome.com/midi/translator/ Grtz, Sanne On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Dean, Hal <HDean@wcupa.edu> wrote: > Is anyone on LD using a game controller coupled with conversion-to-MIDI > software to control Mobius, an EDP, Bidule, VSTs or the like? If so, any > insights on what works and doesn't would be welcome. > > > > Hal Dean > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 21:20:40 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C19663BF25; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4+Mxv87DCjsR1tNRjTmQmGIUgBNQOCr8TOHlPNNS5pM=; b=Bowo6rJWnpfrQkMJkHW+P4AZwmizjBVkY8axsdOx8qk88BpA7EIY0Nd3MMfjl6h/Fp iVGioAiklypP6qZDCCaUJA1Gb4oXyKUKwQdcCqNWFQ9uHTQmaZH4qEh3cbtxdBE8quOa 3HljulITki7dNDFa7AA9tT41/myShZsWNZ1LE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bHQ8abbTCMhBO6wjt/gk+kFWOcACeL4Ezc0+OPi33eOTPL0PyY0UaXUZRUk9Ny/vNB ciKvKXB+APpJlV2ASZ5Ef6Av77/4FOWMmM4gqG30xp5qEE/cec/BrrVXw9e5HfUZmnbL INOVglKSb5SBRL+NqP7Ue1X/7mxlzLl+E2tBI= Message-ID: <d302e3570808201420n619e3e99j9a42e348e256d915@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:20:39 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Game controllers and MIDI In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDDD7@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19234_22964250.1219267239353" References: <20080712142535.83C9E3BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDDD7@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Resent-Message-ID: <h13ZeC.A.KlE.oqIrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:20:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19234_22964250.1219267239353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline this guy has created a loop based piece of software controlled by Wii game controllers called the LoopMachine http://www.theamazingrolo.net/wii/?page_id=6 sim On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Dean, Hal <HDean@wcupa.edu> wrote: > Is anyone on LD using a game controller coupled with conversion-to-MIDI > software to control Mobius, an EDP, Bidule, VSTs or the like? If so, any > insights on what works and doesn't would be welcome. > > > > *Hal Dean* > > > ------=_Part_19234_22964250.1219267239353 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr">this guy has created a loop based piece of software controlled by Wii game controllers called the LoopMachine<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.theamazingrolo.net/wii/?page_id=6">http://www.theamazingrolo.net/wii/?page_id=6</a></div> <div><br></div><div>sim</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Dean, Hal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:HDean@wcupa.edu">HDean@wcupa.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div> <p><span style="color:#1F497D">Is anyone on LD using a game controller coupled with conversion-to-MIDI software to control Mobius, an EDP, Bidule, VSTs or the like? If so, any insights on what works and doesn't would be welcome.</span></p> <p><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p> <p><i><span style="color:#1F497D">Hal Dean</span></i></p> <p> </p> </div> </div> </blockquote></div><br></div></div> ------=_Part_19234_22964250.1219267239353-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 22:29:52 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 466FB3BF2A; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <sine@zerocrossing.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <d302e3570808201420n619e3e99j9a42e348e256d915@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080712142535.83C9E3BE97@arsenic.violacea.com> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823094CDDD7@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> <d302e3570808201420n619e3e99j9a42e348e256d915@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <D6BBD349-AF94-4AEC-BCA5-B2D498AC5293@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Game controllers and MIDI Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:29:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <R_vRTD.A.YIG.grJrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:29:52 +0000 (UTC) I use a P5 Data glove (usb) to control Reaktor instruments, but I admit it hasn't been plugged in for a while. http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/04/11/p5-data-glove-and-music/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 23:18:11 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4418C3BF24; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <rafael.cohen@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=vlSxW57I4W5WjQZXUh2Od1+k9Yt8SB3IdOubGsxOX9g=; b=D+9nnSNjDw7Wr1baMIDAlYVAdtOlnD9msTay5X6iROdomXALHNj5Z4+unFWyHh46U4 Zh+qq238fO10RZ3qjvBMWPVU2DyQguuE1WuoKTASMp9S1XGtKSgFsiBZqWGLpqOoOxaZ clyF9qZUFkzGw+tEX4nrCehK0m/sut19b8raM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ddpQF+5aroXCKvjpPUp0ZtI85TbC2cF5QNZ2CYU1TH0w57wOwACHOUPCyhHhiY0N2E igfMD8yDsMdMvbSXWZxZExm+Q8pEOQWZ/wnjqSBC7vM5Ieezsat6O5daW2BzwpoDjDt8 CSX1letjPVdPUFFzzGCKUScFr4+VXrNRPpZQI= Message-ID: <53cb34390808201618l2bfe3759r878fbf85797cfde9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:18:09 -0400 From: "Rafael Cohen" <rafael.cohen@gmail.com> To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: Tabletop Loopers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33228_19556412.1219274289878" Resent-Message-ID: <HBdfWD.A.cjH.zYKrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:18:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_33228_19556412.1219274289878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, It turns out I am not interested in performing with software, although I heartily appreciate any and all suggestions at this point. I wasn't totally clear in my initial email, but although I do indeed have some degree of familiarity with computer music, my passion is for hardware. >From what I know about myself, and I pretty much get paralyzed when I have too many options. My best work has always come from the most limited structures. Simon's suggestion of the EH 2880 gave me pause, though. I am going to have a go at the manual, which I just printed out. I dismissed it a long time ago because I had the RC-50 at that time and there is no BPM readout on the 2880, but as long as it can deal with being a MIDI-clock slave, that should be no problem. I still have my fantasy, though of some sort of Kaoss Pad MMDCCCLXXX, designed for looping, with a poly-touch screen and a this and a that... -Rafael Mark Sottilaro was all: > From his post it seemed he didn't want to tackle making a looper in Max MSP. > Anyone who even is aware of Max and the Lemur is already saying that > they've got some computer music knowledge. > > Do you really think your Boss DR-660 isn't a computer? ------=_Part_33228_19556412.1219274289878 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr"><div> </div> <div>Hi all,</div> <div> </div> <div>It turns out I am not interested in performing with software, although I heartily appreciate any and all suggestions at this point.  I wasn't totally clear in my initial email, but although I do indeed have some degree of familiarity with computer music, my passion is for hardware.</div> <div> </div> <div>From what I know about myself, and I pretty much get paralyzed when I have too many options.  My best work has always come from the most limited structures.</div> <div> </div> <div>Simon's suggestion of the EH 2880 gave me pause, though.  I am going to have a go at the manual, which I just printed out.  I dismissed it a long time ago because I had the RC-50 at that time and there is no BPM readout on the 2880, but as long as it can deal with being a MIDI-clock slave, that should be no problem.</div> <div> </div> <div>I still have my fantasy, though of some sort of Kaoss Pad MMDCCCLXXX, designed for looping, with a poly-touch screen and a this and a that...</div> <div> </div> <div>-Rafael</div> <div> </div> <div>Mark Sottilaro was all:<br>> From his post it seemed he didn't want to tackle making a looper in Max MSP.<br>>  Anyone who even is aware of Max and the Lemur is already saying that<br>> they've got some computer music knowledge.<br> ><br>> Do you really think your Boss DR-660 isn't a computer?</div></div> ------=_Part_33228_19556412.1219274289878-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 20 23:40:40 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 566EC3BF32; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <billyfox@soundscapes.us> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:39:41 -0400 From: Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #593 for August 14, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48ACAB3D.1040804@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: <yLPKFC.A.cK.4tKrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:40:40 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080814.html <a href="http://galactictravels.info">Galactic Travels</a> is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. 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Frank Van Bogaert: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#aug" PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Xeroid Entity Jupiter Live at the Deer Head Inn (electro-music) Fringe Element electro-music 2007 Visceral Extrusion (none) Spacecraft Reach Out Cybersphere (Space For Mussic) Kurt Michaels Señor Wences Outer Worlds (Umbrello) Klaus Schulze and Liquid Farscape (Synthetic Symphony) Lisa Gerrard Coincidence 4 Frank Van Bogaert Awakening Human (Groove) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Frank Van Bogaert Ballet Human (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Technologika Human (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Atmospheric Human (Groove) Conditions Frank Van Bogaert Meander Human (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Human Human (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Lullaby Human (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Ouverture des Human (Groove) Enfants Frank Van Bogaert Reunion Human (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Naked Human (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Rêve d'Afrique Human (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Warmth Human (Groove) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Frank Van Bogaert. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Closer on Groove Unlimited. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy.asx http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy2.ram To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 02:31:24 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAF623BF35; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1219285883; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=UDRaCdwpf1514/foLJjlxTXSEjA=; b=I7TYKZE2OpHKRX9ZM1WpTarbUfyMdMIOW7pri+AVEDWlR3Yh4qL3G1jJRZjGFNlM 6GrLZ9jlEq3P4tvELlccDflxuVTRsQI6gQfRrkOk7NyxyFFlrYRWZW15IpHzuPgf; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=_qLxvvlwFgaxUaDI5TMA:9 a=dxr_lHu3flrWllrDzQIA:7 a=LHszN-7fOTAKPO2atfni4mVqEgcA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=VlpS86rgwPgI0kpkZVwA:9 a=jfxx1WRtanMLxs_3-mUA:7 a=qmg2PtQ-9DVkhDtfMp0_wwc_fhkA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002401c90336$00b1cf20$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <53cb34390808201618l2bfe3759r878fbf85797cfde9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Tabletop Loopers Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:31:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C90314.790798A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <-EzItB.A.vQG.8NNrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:31:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C90314.790798A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Rafael, The 2880 with the firmware update is solid for being a slave, the only = thing is as a slave of course the octave down button won't work. If I = slow down my Boss 670 it follows it though. >From the update PDF:=20 "When the 2880 has EXT. CLOCK enabled and is therefore the MIDI Clock = slave to another device, a fix has been made when Quantize mode is ON. = If your MIDI master is continually sending MIDI Clock with MIDI Song = Position Pointer data, the 2880 will read the MIDI SPP data and always = start recording its loop on beat 1, as long as Quantize is set to on. It = will also always end the loop recording on beat 1 of a bar so that the = loop lengths are always x number of bars in length. This allows the user = to more easily make loops that will be in sync with their MIDI master. " Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rafael Cohen=20 To: Looper's Delight=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Tabletop Loopers Hi all, It turns out I am not interested in performing with software, although = I heartily appreciate any and all suggestions at this point. I wasn't = totally clear in my initial email, but although I do indeed have some = degree of familiarity with computer music, my passion is for hardware. From what I know about myself, and I pretty much get paralyzed when I = have too many options. My best work has always come from the most = limited structures. Simon's suggestion of the EH 2880 gave me pause, though. I am going = to have a go at the manual, which I just printed out. I dismissed it a = long time ago because I had the RC-50 at that time and there is no BPM = readout on the 2880, but as long as it can deal with being a MIDI-clock = slave, that should be no problem. I still have my fantasy, though of some sort of Kaoss Pad MMDCCCLXXX, = designed for looping, with a poly-touch screen and a this and a that... -Rafael Mark Sottilaro was all: > From his post it seemed he didn't want to tackle making a looper in = Max MSP. > Anyone who even is aware of Max and the Lemur is already saying = that > they've got some computer music knowledge. > > Do you really think your Boss DR-660 isn't a computer? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: = 8/20/2008 8:12 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C90314.790798A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey <FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D3>Rafael,</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 2880 with the firmware update is = solid for=20 being a slave, the only thing is as a slave of course the octave down = button=20 won't work. If I slow down my Boss 670 it follows it = though.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From the update PDF: </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3>"When the 2880 has EXT. CLOCK enabled and is = therefore the=20 MIDI Clock slave to another device, a fix has been made when Quantize = mode is=20 ON. If your MIDI master is continually sending MIDI Clock with MIDI Song = Position Pointer data, the 2880 will read the MIDI SPP data and always = start=20 recording its loop on beat 1, as long as Quantize is set to on. It will = also=20 always end the loop recording on beat 1 of a bar so that the loop = lengths are=20 always x number of bars in length. This allows the user to more easily = make=20 loops that will be in sync with their MIDI master. "</DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Drafael.cohen@gmail.com = href=3D"mailto:rafael.cohen@gmail.com">Rafael=20 Cohen</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Looper's = Delight</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 20, = 2008 7:18=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Tabletop = Loopers</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hi all,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It turns out I am not interested in performing with software, = although I=20 heartily appreciate any and all suggestions at this point.  I = wasn't=20 totally clear in my initial email, but although I do indeed have some = degree=20 of familiarity with computer music, my passion is for hardware.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>From what I know about myself, and I pretty much get paralyzed = when I=20 have too many options.  My best work has always come from the = most=20 limited structures.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Simon's suggestion of the EH 2880 gave me pause, though.  I = am going=20 to have a go at the manual, which I just printed out.  I = dismissed it a=20 long time ago because I had the RC-50 at that time and there is no BPM = readout=20 on the 2880, but as long as it can deal with being a MIDI-clock slave, = that=20 should be no problem.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I still have my fantasy, though of some sort of Kaoss Pad=20 MMDCCCLXXX, designed for looping, with a poly-touch screen and a = this and=20 a that...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Rafael</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mark Sottilaro was all:<BR>> From his post it seemed he didn't = want to=20 tackle making a looper in Max MSP.<BR>>  Anyone who even is = aware of=20 Max and the Lemur is already saying that<BR>> they've got some = computer=20 music knowledge.<BR>><BR>> Do you really think your Boss DR-660 = isn't a=20 computer?</DIV></DIV><PRE>No virus found in this incoming message. 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From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <OF3BAB8CD4.C11BB76A-ON862574AC.002143D7-862574AC.002143D7@farmersinsurance.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:03:20 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on hons_100/Servers/FarmersInsurance(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 08/21/2008 01:03:27 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <yU6gW.A.50F.0ZQrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:08:52 +0000 (UTC) I will be out of the office starting 08/20/2008 and will not return until 08/27/2008. 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References: <006801c8fffb$141a6f10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <006801c8fffb$141a6f10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <gX94kC.A.klG.BcWrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:00:49 +0000 (UTC) In 2005 the Zurich Loopfest used "high profile/waged" artists as headliners. Press reaction was a to review the "Main Acts", and treat the rest as some kind of addition. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 13:39:17 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2DAC3BF34; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 65294494/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.220.156 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.220.156 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8BANQMrUhPRtyc/2dsb2JhbAAItXaBZoNA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,245,1217804400"; d="scan'208";a="65294494" Message-ID: <48AD701F.60409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:39:43 +0100 From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Controlling the EDP and LP1 together,which footcontroller? References: <K5UE0W$5B2C909851B64F4D9DF4619043D46F47@scarlet.be> <00c301c9021f$319af390$5901a8c0@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <00c301c9021f$319af390$5901a8c0@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <YaO_UB.A.lZ.EAXrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Bob Amstadt wrote: > Sjaak's response to this is exactly correct. The LP1 will respond to > program change messages or CC messages. If you use CC messages, then it > needs to send a large value on the press and a small value on the > release. fcb1010 won't send a CC on release :-( > It will not respond to the note on and off messages. > > I know one person that uses an FCB1010 for both. They have certain > banks established to control the EDP and other banks to control the LP1. > > -Bob Amstadt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 15:30:30 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B85063BF2D; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <jeff.lomas@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=HpFG68NiHx1tqpM33qIZwYIden7sN0wvJ7lkFPEt2N0=; b=tpq7ywfc3cAYXPu8QBbLobID/09YghBtgH/fN7V/iLKogbwZANmg3xkWpLx5tIM44L 0iHwaQJBnX1A5SoUyrR8bPqbeiyuLY2d7X9Z6jqUBCFeEysoGTKYUlzZEZYgIFd1z/3u auctuxLJ/BshawvTv/vq0kbDumw2IbU8/zsVI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=WYF7kKFpw/GDvzpUxP0KgsvUraviDvBSihE1fjwyyBQanmQfEkbT31BUn4raEwblaw XKqH30v8aIOVVW+XmDJ44YmPutwb5aX+oT8BSajKe0Q7rUZDLgDakLl8gUcPKG/nNOmy EKgOzCLa9ynA3DshlImfu+0maQy+Vi2xy1UHc= Message-ID: <f707673a0808210830i4f2cbe5dh32e081e02ebf367f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:30:27 +0400 From: "Jeff Lomas" <jeff.lomas@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: review of EH 2880 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <aUPXo.A.8tE.WoYrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:30:30 +0000 (UTC) I noticed no one has done a review of the EH 2880. I've been using one for the past year. If you guys want me to write a review, let me know. Cheers Jeff --------------------------- www.jefflomas.com www.nightmarepuppies.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 15:32:43 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 152F43BF2E; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <Mizuho@aol.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <f707673a0808210830i4f2cbe5dh32e081e02ebf367f@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: review of EH 2880 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:32:26 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.13.207.2 In-Reply-To: <f707673a0808210830i4f2cbe5dh32e081e02ebf367f@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: mizuho@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CAD1BA4011AD25_E50_29D_WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38491-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CAD1BA400823B5-E50-14D@WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <H2Kt5D.A.n1E.aqYrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:32:43 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CAD1BA4011AD25_E50_29D_WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Do you know if there is a firmware update for the 2880? Thanks Bill -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Lomas <jeff.lomas@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:30 am Subject: review of EH 2880 I noticed no one has done a review of the EH 2880. I've been using one for the past year. If you guys want me to write a review, let me know. Cheers Jeff --------------------------- www.jefflomas.com www.nightmarepuppies.com ----------MB_8CAD1BA4011AD25_E50_29D_WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi<br> Do you know if there is a firmware update for the 2880?<br> Thanks Bill<br> </font></div> <div> <br> </div> <div> <br> </div> -----Original Message-----<br> From: Jeff Lomas <jeff.lomas@gmail.com><br> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br> Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:30 am<br> Subject: review of EH 2880<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_0_000655e3-655e-4655-aed8-526c781a7ed7" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>I noticed no one has done a review of the EH 2880. I've been using<br> one for the past year. If you guys want me to write a review, let me<br> know.<br> <br> Cheers<br> Jeff<br> ---------------------------<br> <a href="http://www.jefflomas.com" target="_blank">www.jefflomas.com</a><br> <a href="http://www.nightmarepuppies.com" target="_blank">www.nightmarepuppies.com</a><br> <br> </tt></pre> </div> <!-- end of AOLMsgPart_0_000655e3-655e-4655-aed8-526c781a7ed7 --> <div id='u8CAD1BA400823B5-E50-14D' class='aol_ad_footer'><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"><A title="http://mapquest.com/toolbar?ncid=mpqmap00050000000010" href="http://mapquest.com/toolbar?ncid=mpqmap00050000000010" target="_blank">Get the MapQuest Toolbar</A>. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices & More!</FONT> </div> ----------MB_8CAD1BA4011AD25_E50_29D_WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 15:51:33 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B72983BF30; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <info@zoekeating.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=06USFXiQwnIA:10 a=2xdHhLchxhGHngDxDnUA:9 a=Ah6J_ob9yaCiSZNIWosgvNORGUcA:4 a=IRgsevOTzXQA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> Subject: first looping performance without hardware Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:51:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <OYdKCD.A.jbF.F8YrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (oops...sent this last night from the wrong email account and it bounced back) i cut the cord today and performed for the first time with no hardware at all!! just Ableton Live and 3 instances of SooperLooper. i only had to play one song, so it was a good opportunity to try it out. it all worked! it was very satisfying to have all my gear (with the exception of the FCB1010) in a backback. someone from the FCB users group is removing the expression pedals for me now, so when thats done...small city. i can't wait. my next fantasy is to show up for gigs on a moto guzzi, with the cello in a sidecar and i'll run all the looping software on an iphone. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 16:06:03 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89F013BF45; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <perboysen@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/p4aESiYUndvHFIYVks5YS46B8B7bDEocxDiIOQGHqg=; b=aQ16B/N1LpLBVi0qxWxKxhjbsI91eHYBrRdH33qdA2OmwOq9PSgpcWemiSYNIi83LI K+MPpqit5ns2z2lbV5apb4jfncdm7TjvzZYpI/DZpYvODldMW+cWTCqXIOUDrVDHWJu/ wNbQ2XTEIfCAcpLDhFURf9XintZcTkorLYDC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=pJNvxaaS1yGdXSFUhdnTGGGLervfe/MapLEevpvyqXVGRBzD1XQJ+ioQN5r6pwJt8a hjfLdZdpvzB7foh3GxJvxu71vwuuhT00CkJ1BIzQ2ZNxvYvWNgKd10RfPS0Osv0tPWOe os8EQ1JmGoZk03+dKkzxYsWf1ExLmJifV+Kmk= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808210906y247eba93h1e1be1751deccc19@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:06:01 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware In-Reply-To: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: <K1hOB.A.w5F.rJZrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:06:03 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:51 PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote: > (oops...sent this last night from the wrong email account and it bounced > back) > > > i cut the cord today and performed for the first time with no hardware at > all!! just Ableton Live and 3 instances of SooperLooper. i only had to play > one song, so it was a good opportunity to try it out. it all worked! it was > very satisfying to have all my gear (with the exception of the FCB1010) in a > backback. > > someone from the FCB users group is removing the expression pedals for me > now, so when thats done...small city. i can't wait. > > my next fantasy is to show up for gigs on a moto guzzi, with the cello in a > sidecar and i'll run all the looping software on an iphone. Cool! :-) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 16:21:25 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93BD63BF3E; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VcZ0IHV1+cmo72Y/7oThkB7IN5kcpwdhoffEYWGuC2M=; b=nJuSxsKmw0r5uRuQP3MOhuntNnegGje4H4V4q3jh0BiKHt6BRG/N3nZw+A8uFC7xqK Q12zg9TlzucYEiTBinSNYCj4XzLAI+Xz9jvd3i2jH04GH3iONKMA0kFAr+uPoipOHhyh 1fNZsnm9eiyF9tWPLvSr7zxIFPSj4Nw4A8hlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Y1j91I9cVezmShkhwyOHCrPtJ0fJ3PfXv/kpR+lGJKHoF59dFb5S9xegCVCyXj9COg xgxZ69FTbX8Rhjq4gBUsv1aiVskjWLHTqyj68nSt1Ttw9F6jytBGmCAE0E+MeOxWSqbf EAarNOlbDB5PhEsrmKnkMREs+1fFEK80ogxZo= Message-ID: <dec8f8e60808210921q7b541137u4602c08a68480e6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:21:21 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware In-Reply-To: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_82798_13916013.1219335681923" References: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: <KgL2OD.A.EaG.FYZrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:21:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_82798_13916013.1219335681923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Guzzi!?!? I would have figured you for a Beemer Girl, for sure! Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing that! Best, Dennis On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:51 AM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com>wrote: > (oops...sent this last night from the wrong email account and it bounced > back) > > > i cut the cord today and performed for the first time with no hardware at > all!! just Ableton Live and 3 instances of SooperLooper. i only had to play > one song, so it was a good opportunity to try it out. it all worked! it was > very satisfying to have all my gear (with the exception of the FCB1010) in a > backback. > > someone from the FCB users group is removing the expression pedals for me > now, so when thats done...small city. i can't wait. > > my next fantasy is to show up for gigs on a moto guzzi, with the cello in a > sidecar and i'll run all the looping software on an iphone. > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_82798_13916013.1219335681923 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr"><p>Guzzi!?!? </p><p>I would have figured you for a Beemer Girl, for sure! Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing that!<br></p><p>Best,</p><p>Dennis</p><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:51 AM, info at zoekeating <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:info@zoekeating.com">info@zoekeating.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">(oops...sent this last night from the wrong email account and it bounced back)<br> <br> <br> i cut the cord today and performed for the first time with no hardware at all!! just Ableton Live and 3 instances of SooperLooper. i only had to play one song, so it was a good opportunity to try it out. it all worked! it was very satisfying to have all my gear (with the exception of the FCB1010) in a backback.<br> <br> someone from the FCB users group is removing the expression pedals for me now, so when thats done...small city. i can't wait.<br> <br> my next fantasy is to show up for gigs on a moto guzzi, with the cello in a sidecar and i'll run all the looping software on an iphone.<br> <br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><a href="http://myspace.com/usrsbin">http://myspace.com/usrsbin</a><br><a href="http://audiozoloft.com">http://audiozoloft.com</a><br><a href="http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/">http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/</a><br> </div> ------=_Part_82798_13916013.1219335681923-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 16:28:11 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 971113BF4B; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <micdave@hiwaay.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" <micdave@hiwaay.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: RE: OT/first looping performance without hardware Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:28:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> Thread-Index: AckDpdvdY3hvrH99TXO2qYvqL7uQyAABNDkA Message-Id: <20080821162811.3A58A3BF3F@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <ecIH1D.A.2rG.beZrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:28:11 +0000 (UTC) In some states, the cello will be required to wear a helmet. Love all the Italian bikes--started out on a Ducati way back in 1960. dave (oops...sent this last night from the wrong email account and it bounced back) i cut the cord today and performed for the first time with no hardware at all!! just Ableton Live and 3 instances of SooperLooper. i only had to play one song, so it was a good opportunity to try it out. it all worked! it was very satisfying to have all my gear (with the exception of the FCB1010) in a backback. someone from the FCB users group is removing the expression pedals for me now, so when thats done...small city. i can't wait. my next fantasy is to show up for gigs on a moto guzzi, with the cello in a sidecar and i'll run all the looping software on an iphone. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 16:31:46 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 251E83BF50; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=u8+ZwgAsR9hfAUD7hgDFmuVSq1TGjqS0rPvFdq+6wprJiYKRSaId4a3iRX0TMV0RnvtJycxvS0p1KoHcO1ed9PFdIlIPsTlf91hzJzGCttqE3qsTotMveLBMUbBRjO0T; Message-ID: <20080821113138.ac4pqr4pwkgsw0o4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:31:38 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware References: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: <8uXqiB.A.U4G.xhZrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Quoting info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com>: > > ... very satisfying to have all my gear (with the exception > of the FCB1010) in a backback. > Your approach -- to carry as little equipment as possible, resonates with me. While I enjoy my hardware/equipment rack, in most cases there simply isn't enough setup time to feel at ease with a lot of inter-connected hardware. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 16:42:54 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F9CE3BF4E; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <info@zoekeating.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ooCOQ__Av78A:10 a=ttmu-ocIA_EA:10 a=2n_X2xsVv4b8TspbWaMA:9 a=2pLhwFcE_4nVUkGnTEwVW0YBsVoA:4 a=Kimtx665xSIA:10 a=NVHxADLwyewA:10 a=bc-At0-sGGwA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080821113138.ac4pqr4pwkgsw0o4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> <20080821113138.ac4pqr4pwkgsw0o4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0CC2C109-EE49-4912-A357-63FAB9761195@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:42:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <Cz-ZVC.A.vXH.OsZrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:42:54 +0000 (UTC) the other thing was that i didn't have to worry about midi issues. usually, its risky for me to setup and then leave everything for an extended period before performing. sometimes the midi between my motu ultralite and my external gear will die. the only way to get it back is restart the motu. i suffer many anxieties wondering if my midi will be live and i have yet to solve the issue. motu blames apple. apple blames motu. ableton blames motu. but with no external gear, there is are no midi connections to worry about other than my pedal. On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:31 AM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > Quoting info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com>: >> >> ... very satisfying to have all my gear (with the exception >> of the FCB1010) in a backback. >> > Your approach -- to carry as little equipment as possible, > resonates with me. > > While I enjoy my hardware/equipment rack, in most cases there > simply isn't enough setup time to feel at ease with a lot of inter- > connected hardware. > > -- Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 16:52:28 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 795663BF5A; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <projekt67@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=ZQSrxOBVdE9j26fImSJ018rLzPpAq3M/xmgamebL0mw=; b=M/Ho2myO9zRjZqtqOXlsA05F0YBujUcTMtkKBd66d5L0ZqPjRgmUxwJ/9q+DtcyM2D jfnQOB64x3kZLxdnzqU7g9/tPNeOJ8L9Dov1kcejH1FmZLZ1p7fWqw/ckd1fTF7ldpcA ZwP4txr/t8Y/9WqwGTKTSoPVCmaB45iqzGgCY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=TwlIE1LG71eIC1SZ31/cSpgmZRaz9GazZ5DCgdYXgt3/YttJLGYufqDX+dm7mM4bHs fE56E9zk5VmPQybk07/8Od9f5U/9LKvmdnf6d3cijBhubeMdcNZ3ZvCQQpTGeLkhusqa ILqtfZqUYT94FTB2Xr8fXUrUCltBO1MghtvrM= Message-ID: <AAD8277789A14DA08A11B49B5AB653AA@reddogprqwt4sj> From: "projektGmail" <projekt67@gmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Improvisations from our "music" vacation in a small village in Groningen, the Netherlands Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:52:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C903BF.09021CA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 Resent-Message-ID: <6QLDJD.A.Q1H.M1ZrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Dit is een meerdelig bericht in de MIME-indeling. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C903BF.09021CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Loopers, This summer we had the oppertunity to live for two weeks in a small = village(Zeerijp) in Groningen, the Netherlands. It was a great place to be and next to the house there was a small = church with great acoustics. We had taken all our music equipment and made our own studio in that = great sounding small church. Erna(my wife and other member of my music project) and I have made a lot = of improvisations in that small church. Me looping most of the time with my Echoplex. We recorded everything on a two track machine. I did some editing to make it "songs". You can listen to these improvisations at: = http://www.projekt67.com/music.htm Enjoy, Simon www.projekt67.com ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C903BF.09021CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type = content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3395" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=3DMailContainerBody=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 15px"=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff leftMargin=3D0 topMargin=3D0 CanvasTabStop=3D"true"=20 name=3D"Compose message area"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Loopers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This summer we had the oppertunity to = live for two=20 weeks in a small village(Zeerijp) in Groningen, the = Netherlands.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It was a great place to be and next to = the house=20 there was a small church with great acoustics.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We had taken all our music equipment = and made our=20 own studio in that great sounding small church.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erna(my wife and other member of my = music=20 project) and I have made a lot of improvisations in that small=20 church.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Me looping most of the time with my=20 Echoplex.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We recorded everything on a two track=20 machine.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did some editing to make it = "songs".</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can listen to these improvisations = at: <A=20 title=3D"http://www.projekt67.com/music.htm Druk op CTRL en klik als = je de link wilt volgen"=20 href=3D"http://www.projekt67.com/music.htm">http://www.projekt67.com/musi= c.htm</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Enjoy,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Simon</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://www.projekt67.com">www.projekt67.com</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C903BF.09021CA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 16:52:49 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9708C3BF64; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <toddreyn@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 493 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:52:49 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id :return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=aRXlldLdX8kh8RhcqK5dFTbJkkzkvUeHRxyx83xSeOk=; b=hmnxkyOJVHI2uvbR/2Bc65NGqdBUKZWrSvOOIzRz0kHEMJSBznagVTcPUnkv4fOZvD zyb9easLOJMzxFY/ILcUU3hIzEBibked9Wkx9oq/X+RwywVH0McdJwxsWManwURGF7dZ Me0rb27EoP+glz9T+YxXsPhg8UovBVb9XJlGw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type :mime-version; b=YHWWA/p8PKkIUpU/WvqKgPqaxcuV2uBEfdaL9qtHqXA3dl6AKxw+kuIse9BP/TzAv1 MgTFDbVbCElcpsryjDBZ60roaAISFiJ0mlqYVMWIbRkStWNYYeSoeYeJXwZ26F1scPPy xNVkruD3fm7PR4OXu5kEtw2VOk9u4mLq11etM= X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1413686122 Message-ID:<1413686122-1219337068-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1357381045-@bxe106.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: toddreyn@gmail.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware From: toddreyn@gmail.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:43:46 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <pQqgrB.A.96H.h1ZrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:52:49 +0000 (UTC) D ------Original Message------ From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com Sender: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com ReplyTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Aug 21, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware Quoting info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com>: > > ... very satisfying to have all my gear (with the exception > of the FCB1010) in a backback. > Your approach -- to carry as little equipment as possible, resonates with me. While I enjoy my hardware/equipment rack, in most cases there simply isn't enough setup time to feel at ease with a lot of inter-connected hardware. -- Kevin Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 17:10:08 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3882E3BF63; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <jeff.lomas@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=PQA/d4tNS8xKlIHmzUZDgED9Mdz9aWDa+x2wULFaSlA=; b=gJMtep8geRxg3pvoADATCyyZURXtEGyDIJ+xNNzYpPGi+ClaFtwqhhQBgLkpoRDTf1 ZKGMgxxjICFj5S0vae5JnILgcgeLV2XurC5+kNYORD2YwO2DNmndYcD1YlR/IXJpJ6Wv mCltApmb4a8ilhlCfFI9vhyozwG/uUdKXxfX8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Kg44e4SEl0KHBwj23HC/Ajl3SE47HClgjtcJIhIhIIdg8kC1MnHLoMFaTd+qIYsZkz 4STf2LOlGbuR9EV8lXmiqSKcEE9y0FL78pdlib14CX1Dolee3MgwrcRHlGM+S8CafOWp Qz2hBWnAxJlMfq25aGh4JyAE8EmCOiy8GpY74= Message-ID: <f707673a0808211003t1be1ed3dodfdcd8da226c399@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:03:03 +0400 From: "Jeff Lomas" <jeff.lomas@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: review of EH 2880 In-Reply-To: <8CAD1BA400823B5-E50-14D@WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <f707673a0808210830i4f2cbe5dh32e081e02ebf367f@mail.gmail.com> <8CAD1BA400823B5-E50-14D@WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-9BNv.A.H6.wFarIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:10:08 +0000 (UTC) no clue. the website and documentation is lacking on this score -jeff On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:32 PM, <mizuho@aol.com> wrote: > Hi > Do you know if there is a firmware update for the 2880? > Thanks Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Lomas <jeff.lomas@gmail.com> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:30 am > Subject: review of EH 2880 > > I noticed no one has done a review of the EH 2880. I've been using > > one for the past year. If you guys want me to write a review, let me > > know. > > > > Cheers > > Jeff > > --------------------------- > > www.jefflomas.com > > www.nightmarepuppies.com > > > > ________________________________ > Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices & More! -- --------------------------- (504) 613-0837 Skype: whsp3r Chain Tape Profile: http://tinyurl.com/6ltw9p Twitter Blog: http://www.twitter.com/jefflomas/ Cigar Wishlist: http://tinyurl.com/5u2scv From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 17:23:21 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72E033BF61; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <crazyquilt@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=jOL7PYyI+RIr7AQbmgGWzuGIFRvIr5vuslw74Wboh0I=; b=ISTaIicjcYgcHs9V9Z4vQj6vHaR2vEk/llIPqn775CWoYWdWchRyXLmO3nYkbl6L4g WjxAap+q4hHD1i3cMEAQNF2Sm+OPU/sVKnKA9FLPgJ+lBVuo5D6H27Q58bO8+4LQYG6k Alc+d6iuo4C1pPg8BwGOniJlJda9aiZ9e63DA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=oZfw3Kbb9j/7NWK93OhXK8BBhjaLOumcxz2Hgi/GwI+p/5H6YihSHXKi76dLwO8Nq9 Q9YdZzUouSsLUuINftLyGQQYKcqvkE2mEmEzNHHHZFen8byR6rmrR8hcah9TcJPrNOWR /KOiFZq6HJtTs08sDCjNXhZ1uNK72ZTs7MMjc= Message-ID: <db5ff00d0808211023w44ec86f4j20fe0cbc2683e156@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:23:18 -0400 From: "Zak Kramer" <crazyquilt@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: review of EH 2880 In-Reply-To: <f707673a0808210830i4f2cbe5dh32e081e02ebf367f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_60511_23031783.1219339398475" References: <f707673a0808210830i4f2cbe5dh32e081e02ebf367f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <OvSSPD.A.cZB.JSarIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:23:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_60511_23031783.1219339398475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'd be very interested, esp. if you can compare it to other loopers, and give us an idea of how you're using the 2880. Also, the sound quality of the dry or through signal; even my EDP can significantly kill high end response for a guitar in front of an amp. Thanks. -- Zak Kramer Crazyquilt Arts & Music http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_60511_23031783.1219339398475 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr">I'd be very interested, esp. if you can compare it to other loopers, and give us an idea of how you're using the 2880. Also, the sound quality of the dry or through signal; even my EDP can significantly kill high end response for a guitar in front of an amp.<br> <br>Thanks.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Zak Kramer<br>Crazyquilt Arts & Music<br> <a href="http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/">http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/</a><br> </div> ------=_Part_60511_23031783.1219339398475-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 17:53:43 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66A433BF59; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <cazwicky@earthlink.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <p06240802c4d35ba0e0f1@[69.86.190.137]> In-Reply-To: <f707673a0808210830i4f2cbe5dh32e081e02ebf367f@mail.gmail.com> References: <f707673a0808210830i4f2cbe5dh32e081e02ebf367f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:52:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: review of EH 2880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120fa525d4c9c70556b1d3ac1ce7d34af1cb111514ec21b7db5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: <atRMED.A.PfC.nuarIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:53:43 +0000 (UTC) >I noticed no one has done a review of the EH 2880. I've been using >one for the past year. If you guys want me to write a review, let me >know. > >Cheers >Jeff >--------------------------- >www.jefflomas.com >www.nightmarepuppies.com Jeff, THis review was submitted to the list over two years ago, you may have missed it: >Hello everyone! >The Electro Harmonix 2880 Super Multi-track Looper was delivered to me >recently. I am very happy with it, so here is a small review for anyone >interested in this new looper. > >The 2880 is well designed and well build, with quality knobs, pots and >faders. It is smaller and lighter than I expected and this is a plus, at >least for me. > >This is a user friendly machine - especially those who are familiar with >any multitrack recorder or mixing console will feel at home right away. It >is great to have faders and pan pots for each track/loop and control these >parameters in real time. > >The audio fidelity is great, no nasty compression, no hiss, no artifacts, >no degradation. The two inputs have lots of headroom before clipping and >they sound good with various sources. The converter sounds nice - no cheap >digital nastyness here. The panning is accurate and clear and the faders >have that nice feel you expect when you need to do smooth fade ins/outs, >small changes or big moves. > >Electro Harmonix made a powerful looper. Multiple mono or stereo loops can >be recorded of four different tracks and you are free to mix everything >down to a stereo track to have the other ones available for additional >work. You can move the faders and pan pots during mixdown and everything >will be recorded onto the mixdown track just as you hear it. You can also >record onto the mixdown track as many times as you like and keep the >previous stuff there, too. > >Loops can be pitch shifted at any time with the octave button and you are >also free to do bends up and down with the tempo slider. The reverse >feature is also great. Pitch change and reverse can be active at the same >time. > >Overdub and punch in actions are easy, with very simple steps to follow. >If you are experienced with overdub an punch in, there are no problems at >all. From the time you memorize the foot controller, the 2880 becomes an >instrument of its own - as with any other dedicated looper machine out >there. If you are thinking of buying the 2880, I suggest you spend the >additional money to get the foot controller too, because it really makes >live work easier and more fluid. You can't do everything on the fly >without the controller, except if both of your hands are free. > >Midi works just fine and the 2880 can sync succesfully to a sequencer or a >drum machine. If you need this feature, it is there, simple and effective. > >A metronome with its own level knob is also included. It sounds like the >clear sharp sound of a turntable needle. No fake plastic snare here. This >click sound can blend smoothly into the loops to assist the performer, but >it doesn't ruin the feel or the moment at all. The metronome is output >through the headphones jack, allowing for further dub style processing. >;-) > >The usb port is very welcome. I think everyone will appreciate this. You >can move audio files to/from a computer. The compact flash card is >displayed as an external hard drive. The files are the standard .wav and >can be easily moved, for backup or further process. > >Generally speaking, the 2880 gives the musician the control and the power >to do things as fluidly as possible. > >Feel free to ask questions. >:-) > >Greetings from Athens >Costas > >http://www.costasandreou.com >contact@costasandreou.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From alhasansabir@yahoo.com Thu Aug 21 17:55:20 2008 Return-Path: <alhasansabir@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 405 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:55:20 UTC Received: from n1d.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n1d.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.85]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A64353BF58 for <looparc@loopers-delight.com>; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.13.26] by n1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2008 17:48:33 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.169] by t3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2008 17:48:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp110.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2008 17:48:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 657296.54241.bm@omp110.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 46677 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Aug 2008 17:48:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ymail_nen1; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=n0mcSVYv9Y2Xg/uxsZvypz+4LQTOiImz121TFMzwW7IRzR19eo/f2VyJ1cvz++v09I/joJ4NBs5tyNH9ycIv96O5uI+1H9wHzj/KyHJxqJgoVSPLY1jvr+DQcJHEp3NRn+c/r4pK/CqW7O6KGRaXsqXc3P5E5n3SN2alSNWByoY=; Received: from [212.85.201.246] by web59514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:48:33 PDT Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:48:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Swift Visa Credit Card Payment <alhasansabir@yahoo.com> Reply-To: anti_fraud_unit@ozu.es Subject: Undisclosed Recipient: To: looparc@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-310725229-1219340913=:43922" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <380933.43922.qm@web59514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --0-310725229-1219340913=:43922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a new email address!You can now email me at: alhasansabir@yahoo.com Mrs. Catherine Boateng. 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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c32.376f0463.35df07bb_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <MgD55B.A.3yC.N3arIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:02:53 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c32.376f0463.35df07bb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/21/08 9:01:02 AM, akbutler@tiscali.co.uk writes: > Press reaction was a to review the "Main Acts", and treat the rest as some > kind of addition. > > i was as far away from a "main act" as possible but i got some nice press.....although they told me to keep my boops and beeps in amerika.....just kidding!.....:).....and as you had said mr. "zappato", "it's the kool people who carry the guitars" as i toted yours to the venue that evening, perhaps they cornfused me with you! and wrote me up as a main dude.....ahhhh fate!.....m "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) --part1_c32.376f0463.35df07bb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><HTML><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Gen= eva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> In a message dated 8/21/08 9:01:02 AM, akbutler@tiscali.co.uk writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20= MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE=3D"CITE"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0= 00000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2">Press reaction was a=20= to review the "Main Acts", and treat the rest as some kind of addition.<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSE= RIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2">i was as far away from a "main act" as possible but i got some nice press= .....although they told me to keep my boops and beeps in amerika.....just ki= dding!.....:).....and as you had said mr. "zappato", "it's the kool people w= ho carry the guitars" as i toted yours to the venue that evening, perhaps th= ey cornfused me with you! and wrote me up as a main dude.....ahhhh fate!....= .m<BR> <BR> "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY<BR> <BR> new groovy tunes at:<BR> http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10<BR> www.ct-collective.com<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2"></FONT><BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>It's only a deal if it's where you w= ant to go. Find your travel deal here.<BR> (http://information.travel.a= ol.com/deals?ncid=3Daoltrv00050000000047)</HTML> --part1_c32.376f0463.35df07bb_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 18:04:16 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D1F93BF67; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <sfmissionman@yahoo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=6I2e2338tETntq1YjlptLU2mcNSriYb52Yzv2H+baHomPl+uN6ji7rAu6fLFToeXBz673MCKk5ab7QIUulHtnGpcYigL6nWLA56W54cJZQKa4oIyPL7/3TyL3L1HkjnqjGVmx/wfeVw0RzytQ34onu8ZiDcywuVi7A39yEKIYA4=; X-YMail-OSG: JWL0ziQVM1lR0NIq3Kbhpc1r.TuazItaptQDLVC6NrNaf9MywVIKkvARfMzbMBii72XGzAZ7ohXF6oPGqcizVQHTgO5A9rlqrM6dKUH3MUvcSLJQNs3v3.tMXTdaHMbamK77Pyyv5HDDJtJE9mxiOwk- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:04:15 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig <sfmissionman@yahoo.com> Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: RE: OT/first looping performance without hardware To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080821162811.3A58A3BF3F@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <350056.51226.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <GjW4hD.A.N7C.f4arIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:04:16 +0000 (UTC) I'm a Ducati guy! I've got a backpack guitar bag that can haul around a guitar, a couple of guyatone micro pedals, and a laptop. I ride to rehearsal studios sometimes when I need to make a lot of noise. Unfortunately, can't carry a proper amp this way. I haven't ridden on the highway like this. Even at around-town speeds (which for me is still around 50mph), I don't feel so secure with the guitar on my back. I don't think the designers of the backpack had highway speeds in mind when they designed it. But I haven't found a better one, yet. Sidecars are cool, but limit maneuverability and top speed. And really, isn't it all about being a ninja looper? (Apologies to Zoe, I know your cello is too big to fit on your back). All talk of motorcyling aside, having minimal kit is still really important to me. I think everyone knows what a hassle setup can be. implifying things in this regard is central to my current thinking as I redesign my rig. --- On Thu, 8/21/08, Dave Gallaher <micdave@hiwaay.net> wrote: > From: Dave Gallaher <micdave@hiwaay.net> > Subject: RE: OT/first looping performance without hardware > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 9:28 AM > In some states, the cello will be required to wear a helmet. > > Love all the Italian bikes--started out on a Ducati way > back in 1960. > > dave > > > (oops...sent this last night from the wrong email account > and it > bounced back) > > > i cut the cord today and performed for the first time with > no > hardware at all!! just Ableton Live and 3 instances of > SooperLooper. > i only had to play one song, so it was a good opportunity > to try it > out. it all worked! it was very satisfying to have all my > gear (with > the exception of the FCB1010) in a backback. > > someone from the FCB users group is removing the expression > pedals > for me now, so when thats done...small city. i can't > wait. > > my next fantasy is to show up for gigs on a moto guzzi, > with the > cello in a sidecar and i'll run all the looping > software on an iphone. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 18:17:13 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BEF23BF6E; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <Nemoguitt@aol.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <c91.2b11d8b6.35df0b25@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:17:09 EDT Subject: Re: Improvisations from our "music" vacation in a small village in Groningen, the Netherlands To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c91.2b11d8b6.35df0b25_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <X2fHiC.A.g3D.oEbrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:17:13 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c91.2b11d8b6.35df0b25_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/21/08 12:52:52 PM, projekt67@gmail.com writes: > http://www.projekt67.com/music.htm > very nice simon!.....listening now.....m "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) --part1_c91.2b11d8b6.35df0b25_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><HTML><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Gen= eva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> In a message dated 8/21/08 12:52:52 PM, projekt67@gmail.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20= MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE=3D"CITE"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0= 000FF" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><A HREF=3D"http://www= .projekt67.com/music.htm">http://www.projekt67.com/music.htm</A></FONT><FONT= COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSE= RIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2">very nice simon!.....listening now.....m<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY<BR> <BR> new groovy tunes at:<BR> http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10<BR> www.ct-collective.com<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2"></FONT><BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>It's only a deal if it's where you w= ant to go. Find your travel deal here.<BR> (http://information.travel.a= ol.com/deals?ncid=3Daoltrv00050000000047)</HTML> --part1_c91.2b11d8b6.35df0b25_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 18:26:39 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2E163BF71; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1219343199; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=xZts98ZkAKHWEBFze6sdm5SkYxI=; b=O4AlJHUMxwrtMCRRanjbl+H/2xqzy6AM4j1zC2/bSLWCNMMjBisEPmxouNckLELY OFVSDDeT+C5p23uIN11TTfZWorF/fV5iXS4RtlnDTJ1cMwVJpu7z1FQbURVdRB4C; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=IltXpUoaAAAA:8 a=CH1TxJ-8AAAA:8 a=6D-Hy7tQAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=3FkcJne8LwZI9ixw3QsA:9 a=jkmM-SLeMKEquCGrf2IA:7 a=PbR4T0kDpZ_WLtmsxhSeSFSmStYA:4 a=hEPiw3-f58sA:10 a=zfjIsDwfQtEA:10 a=wH-mD5YPTBQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=WN8zLioqDSwA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000c01c903bb$72b4f7c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <f707673a0808210830i4f2cbe5dh32e081e02ebf367f@mail.gmail.com> <8CAD1BA400823B5-E50-14D@WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com> <f707673a0808211003t1be1ed3dodfdcd8da226c399@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: review of EH 2880 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:26:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <nEY0hB.A.48E.fNbrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Yes there is, it,s hard to get a reply from EHX so I have put up the zip that they sent me, you can get it at: http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/2880_V1_5.zip hope this helps. It contains instructions and documentation. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lomas" <jeff.lomas@gmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: Re: review of EH 2880 > no clue. the website and documentation is lacking on this score > > -jeff > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:32 PM, <mizuho@aol.com> wrote: >> Hi >> Do you know if there is a firmware update for the 2880? >> Thanks Bill >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jeff Lomas <jeff.lomas@gmail.com> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:30 am >> Subject: review of EH 2880 >> >> I noticed no one has done a review of the EH 2880. I've been using >> >> one for the past year. If you guys want me to write a review, let me >> >> know. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Jeff >> >> --------------------------- >> >> www.jefflomas.com >> >> www.nightmarepuppies.com >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices & More! > > > > -- > --------------------------- > (504) 613-0837 > Skype: whsp3r > Chain Tape Profile: http://tinyurl.com/6ltw9p > Twitter Blog: http://www.twitter.com/jefflomas/ > Cigar Wishlist: http://tinyurl.com/5u2scv > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1625 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 > 6:04 AM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 18:32:59 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67D7F3BF79; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <jeff.lomas@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5395 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:32:59 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=n00u8/0Hf4w2cHFHo6htjNSz12LBBJSwISW/fo71kVw=; b=gnB8w/LEkDuSaRbgw9oDapdjHpzSoaAMWLVhGx4NVtQ7IErLd/1W8zjjNe/KpmdVti GlrBbl1EFWM0bgm07UmPRRKwQiUQgD69HTUUw1Tz+C+AZR3NM6GiVmaLo0v5HSoFK8jL 2OOmOxJ5D3OITUNxcfaN5tjnrEvKAyAv3P57I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=lHQD4ZkznQNW9eknk0bS/raNBslZf+f6tzksHwEQwGDVEbv+f4dd3hHEAc937lsx/9 jdNnLsg/VLVNGksT/1WGmmJO8xs/BT07E4RcpseX9OhFRS3Wbt5vDHI/WXThLtZhF/lZ Qshmkio1ilUPNcOIs1fgre8uaZq99yPm3UKLE= Message-ID: <f707673a0808211132q149946f1o4dd11eaaa5f19ade@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:32:58 +0400 From: "Jeff Lomas" <jeff.lomas@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: review of EH 2880 In-Reply-To: <000c01c903bb$72b4f7c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <f707673a0808210830i4f2cbe5dh32e081e02ebf367f@mail.gmail.com> <8CAD1BA400823B5-E50-14D@WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com> <f707673a0808211003t1be1ed3dodfdcd8da226c399@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c903bb$72b4f7c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: <Fv4fCC.A.rGF.bTbrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:32:59 +0000 (UTC) nice, jeff! thx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 18:35:48 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 843BB3BF73; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <info@eterogeneo.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:35:47 UTC Message-ID: <04ad01c903bb$ca36b380$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" <info@eterogeneo.com> From: "e t e r o g e n e o" <info@eterogeneo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: OT: Playing the buildings....in NY Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:29:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04AA_01C903CC.8D51CD90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: smtp4.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: <TWNZED.A.uNF.EWbrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:35:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04AA_01C903CC.8D51CD90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Following some earlier discussions about "playing strange sounds", here = is the link to an ongoing installation, placed in New York 'till the 24th august, = realized by David Byrne. The page is full of infomation and video about the making = of. http://www.davidbyrne.com/art/art_projects/playing_the_building/index.php= Cheers Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ------=_NextPart_000_04AA_01C903CC.8D51CD90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16674" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#000080>Following some earlier = discussions=20 about "playing strange sounds", here is the link</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#000080>to an ongoing = installation, placed=20 in New York 'till the 24th august, realized by</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#000080>David Byrne. The page = is full of=20 infomation and video about the making of.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#000080><A=20 href=3D"http://www.davidbyrne.com/art/art_projects/playing_the_building/i= ndex.php">http://www.davidbyrne.com/art/art_projects/playing_the_building= /index.php</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#000080>Cheers</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#000080>Fabio<BR><A=20 href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com">www.eterogeneo.com</A><BR><A=20 href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/eterogeneo">www.myspace.com/eterogeneo</A>= </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_04AA_01C903CC.8D51CD90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 18:39:36 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87E0F3BF7A; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <raul.bonell@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=slgfLSz/f6vyNEw81zCukHMSFJ8KEu6rSDypZpn4v+g=; b=WUZspgUEAOE94mGgATDhE1LC1MKepZ8mUtLmtuZlO5etJKdMLqqwKjdBTqTjKAXYOk 9Dj1jBbNaZFPcP1ysSP4DlRFSqmdNR+msuND0FcgjoqSZgrtc1OYhWGio01B/UgOx07g BdRgeaJ3k52bXnoltNq8D80XNchPdxSgvKFLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=VFTUcAVByFbhSfL83tzU8YjsVOKUziBIGvDtxTiAD7kWVcovgRt88BKZezkugC9K22 DIE5LLLYv8W/XkJtNGYeyIUE2vxIb+uKuzfeM3+uwOTr3KV8rB72HRtUrvKK7ipxxSZ4 OYStP2uot7sw8rCusGiMk/KEzR1xoOJHj5cnc= Message-ID: <afb941d0808211139o300c8fd3m30a36b8bfec1e0da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:39:34 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" <raul.bonell@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Improvisations from our "music" vacation in a small village in Groningen, the Netherlands In-Reply-To: <c91.2b11d8b6.35df0b25@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_70332_18795807.1219343974523" References: <c91.2b11d8b6.35df0b25@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <AqFmwB.A.9UF.oZbrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:39:36 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_70332_18795807.1219343974523 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Love the ability to launch the various players at a time on your website ... Great songs! 2008/8/21 <Nemoguitt@aol.com> > > In a message dated 8/21/08 12:52:52 PM, projekt67@gmail.com writes: > > > http://www.projekt67.com/music.htm > > > very nice simon!.....listening now.....m > > > > "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY > > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > ************** > It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_70332_18795807.1219343974523 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr">Love the ability to launch the various players at a time on your website ... Great songs! <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/8/21 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com">Nemoguitt@aol.com</a>></span><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><font face="arial,helvetica"><div class="Ih2E3d"><font color="#000000" face="Geneva" size="2"><br> In a message dated 8/21/08 12:52:52 PM, <a href="mailto:projekt67@gmail.com" target="_blank">projekt67@gmail.com</a> writes:<br> <br> <br> <blockquote style="border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px;padding-left:5px" type="CITE"></blockquote></font><font color="#0000FF" face="Geneva" size="2"><a href="http://www.projekt67.com/music.htm" target="_blank">http://www.projekt67.com/music.htm</a></font><font color="#000000" face="Geneva" size="2"><br> </font><font color="#000000" face="Geneva" size="2"><br> <br> </font></div><font color="#000000" face="Geneva" size="2">very nice simon!.....listening now.....m<br> <br> <br> <br> "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY<br> <br> new groovy tunes at:<br> <a href="http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10" target="_blank">http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10</a><br> <a href="http://www.ct-collective.com" target="_blank">www.ct-collective.com</a><br> <br> <br> </font><font color="#000000" face="Geneva" size="2"></font><br><br><br>**************<br>It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.<br> (<a href="http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047" target="_blank">http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047</a>) </font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>The Playing Orchestra: <a href="http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo">http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href="http://www.ct-collective.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br> TPO at myspace: <a href="http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra">http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra</a><br>TPO at Jamendo: <a href="http://www.jamendo.com">http://www.jamendo.com</a><br> </div> ------=_Part_70332_18795807.1219343974523-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 19:04:13 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBBA63BF7D; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:01:59 -0400 From: Dan Ash <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net> Subject: re: Improvisations from our "music" vacation in a small village in Groningen, the Netherlands To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48ADBBA7.6090603@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) Resent-Message-ID: <FpH5yD.A.FIG.twbrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Thanks so much for posting this - the soundtrack for my afternoon. Congrats on producing this lovely collection - it hangs together really well, especially as it was largely improvised. Dan Ash White Plains, NY > Subject: > Improvisations from our "music" vacation in a small village in > Groningen, the Netherlands > From: > "projektGmail" <projekt67@gmail.com> > Date: > Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:52:18 +0200 > > To: > <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > > Hi Loopers, > > This summer we had the oppertunity to live for two weeks in a small > village(Zeerijp) in Groningen, the Netherlands. > It was a great place to be and next to the house there was a small > church with great acoustics. > We had taken all our music equipment and made our own studio in > that great sounding small church. > Erna(my wife and other member of my music project) and I have made a > lot of improvisations in that small church. > Me looping most of the time with my Echoplex. > We recorded everything on a two track machine. > I did some editing to make it "songs". > You can listen to these improvisations at: > http://www.projekt67.com/music.htm > > Enjoy, > Simon > www.projekt67.com <http://www.projekt67.com> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 19:43:30 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CDC53BF7C; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <marksmartus@gmail.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=YDQ6SbUrv1DvzesiTGS9YM+s2l2HgpH4buqdDtGX3Vc=; b=jZfuiucuACAeCbQH2pV/x7OHhH1ejZMYmioc3u85aDH8JbrZ3rgnxA9AQyIlj22pAF 45dC9NjgfHd+tFD1kT3NPk4X90I6QaK6/I3i2zfFJmwnrBrVDN47h4VRGhfEGjUFE3Lw JOi9cxTN2RNzszQnPXAknPLSkyfofGKym5rMs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BCHk0yh5bIhzGEjsoRiDSBdD4jbcRdXSc7EvWcU53b5PAhmaqfLgIyhIymCivFINlv op7q35hGdmtcrJsiTIho2pvVklx6MzOFYSFIOZYVqYg5Uo5t7YqFUCYumrPzfFiyU+2o ev3l1KvPWQQkWiJxDt1uZMsXi89srnuUSEzqI= Message-ID: <fc1f8c2b0808211243h6b433e36w198d8bc6559048e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:43:28 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" <marksmartus@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware In-Reply-To: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_44843_21473665.1219347808962" References: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-HiilD.A.jLB.iVcrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:43:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_44843_21473665.1219347808962 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is encouraging! I am getting ready to do my first gig with a laptop Mac and Ableton instead of a bunch of interconnected effects pedals, and this makes me feel a little less worried. I'm excited about it. I've been working on my Reaktor Big Band synth so its harmony can be controlled by a prerecorded silent MIDI track in Ableton, making it much more flexible in terms of being about to do different sections of tunes, tags, etc. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_44843_21473665.1219347808962 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr">This is encouraging! I am getting ready to do my first gig with a laptop Mac and Ableton instead of a bunch of interconnected effects pedals, and this makes me feel a little less worried.<br><br>I'm excited about it. I've been working on my Reaktor Big Band synth so its harmony can be controlled by a prerecorded silent MIDI track in Ableton, making it much more flexible in terms of being about to do different sections of tunes, tags, etc.<br> <br>-- <br>Mark Smart<br><a href="http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart">http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart</a><br><a href="http://www.marksmart.net">http://www.marksmart.net</a><br> </div> ------=_Part_44843_21473665.1219347808962-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 20:53:34 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9586D3BF77; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <midifriedchicken@comcast.net> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ooCOQ__Av78A:10 a=ttmu-ocIA_EA:10 a=ePC-paLKAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=inUjxYx5lDZGZmqmpAQA:9 a=RT50C2PLFv1EB25zkv8A:7 a=JXmBh6ski0FgQG1JhZa8ujcixaAA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=S_NzWn4c1O7Ku8AEwVEA:9 a=3tSCsuibC4xzHRG7FVAA:7 a=3GsjO2t18hsF6SA2YdHlGvN4_GsA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <fc1f8c2b0808211243h6b433e36w198d8bc6559048e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> <fc1f8c2b0808211243h6b433e36w198d8bc6559048e9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-526640056 Message-Id: <1C568328-85B8-41D1-BB5B-9F39CD72C39F@comcast.net> From: Chris Sewell <midifriedchicken@comcast.net> Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:53:28 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <AMCXsB.A.3LF.OXdrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:53:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-526640056 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In the year and a half of using an Ableton/Sooperlooper rig, the only thing to go wrong was hardware; FCB, cables, and a Firewire 410. The software and Mac PB are the most stable items in the chain. Walk into the light..... On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > This is encouraging! I am getting ready to do my first gig with a > laptop Mac and Ableton instead of a bunch of interconnected effects > pedals, and this makes me feel a little less worried. > > I'm excited about it. I've been working on my Reaktor Big Band > synth so its harmony can be controlled by a prerecorded silent MIDI > track in Ableton, making it much more flexible in terms of being > about to do different sections of tunes, tags, etc. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net --Apple-Mail-1-526640056 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">In the year and a half of using = an Ableton/Sooperlooper rig, the only thing to go wrong was hardware; = FCB, cables, and a Firewire 410. The software and Mac PB are the most = stable items in the chain.=A0<div><br></div><div>Walk into the = light.....</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></di= v><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Mark = Smart wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">This is encouraging! I am getting ready = to do my first gig with a laptop Mac and Ableton instead of a bunch of = interconnected effects pedals, and this makes me feel a little less = worried.<br><br>I'm excited about it. I've been working on my Reaktor = Big Band synth so its harmony can be controlled by a prerecorded silent = MIDI track in Ableton, making it much more flexible in terms of being = about to do different sections of tunes, tags, etc.<br> <br>-- <br>Mark = Smart<br><a = href=3D"http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart">http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart</a>= <br><a href=3D"http://www.marksmart.net">http://www.marksmart.net</a><br> = </div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-1-526640056-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 20:54:50 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D54A93BF8A; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 58332022 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C903D0.2601FC7C" Subject: REposting: reviews of EH 2880 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:54:47 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA15BF2E4@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <8CAD1BA400823B5-E50-14D@WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: REposting: reviews of EH 2880 Thread-Index: AckD0CW2dwXbKFpqRe+N+QIUtEAFWA== References: <8CAD1BA400823B5-E50-14D@WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Aug 2008 20:54:48.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[261808C0:01C903D0] Resent-Message-ID: <k1MeLD.A.NYF.aYdrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:54:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C903D0.2601FC7C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am sure a former colleague of mine at MTV wrote a sizeable piece to the list, or to me which I then forwarded, back in mid-2006 when he had my 2880 & footswitch on loan. if it can't be found (& I've trawled my own archived mails) then this will have to suffice, from the same era, & from the inestimable mr zwicky: =20 From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net <mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net> ] Sent: 27 July 2006 16:31 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: My thoughts on the ELECTRO HARMONIX 2880 I'll post this to the LD website after we've answered any of your questions. LOVE: Fantastic audio quality. Physical knobs and buttons for every function. All level, pan, tempo and click track levels are knobs... you never lose your settings when resetting a loop, like the Repeater... Separate foot controller keeps the knobs near your hands and the timing functions near your feet, uses standard guitar cable to connect to 2880. Each button has one function only, no menus, no double clicking, no "7 footswitch presses to get to insert mode" (ala BOSS RC-50). Separate feedback control over each track, you can simultaneously perform 'looping' and 'echoing' in the same performance simply by selecting the appropriate track. STEREO MIXDOWN TRACK: Great feature! You can bounce the 4 basic loops to a stereo pair, and in addition you can vari-speed the 4 tracks independently of the mixdown. While you bounce down you can manipulate the level, pan and pitch in real time, including the feedback level of the mixdown track! This feature allows a whole new type of performance: Realtime audio manipulation. Physical knobs to control feedback and pitch allow for some entirely new performance possibilities, including DJ type effects... Speaking of which... the MIDI synch (in and out) is really interesting. The unit handles tempo changes by vari-speeding the audio, no glitching or garbled audio as the Repeater does. If you press reverse while synched to MIDI the device responds with the ballistics of a big tape machine, even in record. This can generate some very interesting pitch sweeping effects. ( when the unit is the master, or not synched it reverses instantly) Also, if you record an initial pass while synched to MIDI and the external tempo is set quite high (300bpm, for example) then slow the tempo way down (to say 20bpm) and get some incredible aliasing, ala the original EH 16 second delay... try it! The audio interface is very practical and well thought out: Stereo audio inputs with individual left and right input level control and clipping indicators.=20 In addition, there is a stereo input pan knob which has some very clever functions. When set fully counter-clockwise, the Left Input is monitored at the Left Output and the Right Input is monitored at the Right Output. When Pan is set to the CW position, the Left Input is monitored at the Right Output and the Right Input is monitored at the Left Output. When Pan is set to the middle, both Inputs are mixed to both Outputs. The setting of the DRY OUT Fader and the Pan Pot have no influence on the signal that is recorded.=20 AUX input: This is a purely analog through path which is mixed with the signal from the D/A converter and output to the main audio outputs. This AUX input allows you to mix any other audio source without recording it to the 2880. This makes parallel looping easy, you can use two other mono loopers or a stereo looper and feed the outputs into the 2880 AUX input. This can really open up some sonic ground! Nice sounding headphone amp with level knob. USB 2.0 interface and CF card reader. Never an issue with card compatibility (ala Repeater). =20 WISHES: The ability to store multiple loops on one card would be a great addition, since the device allows so many great performance manipulation options it would be nice to have someplace to keep and access these creations within the unit. You can do so with a computer, but that sort of misses the point. At the moment the workaround is to carry several CF cards, not such a bad option to have. Loop multiply function. It would also be great if the mixdown track could be an independent length, to record evolving loop mutilations. The ability to respond to Midi PC and CC input for the normal front panel functions. (Electro Harmonix have told me that this may be possible to add) Signal present indicators over each channel would be nice, I am spoiled by the Repeater's metering system! =20 I wish that the "Octave" button would work without halving the Midi Clock rate. I wish that smaller capacity Compact Flash cards could be used. Since the current OS only allows one loop to be saved to a card at a time, smaller cards would be perfect for those of us who rely on smaller loops for ambient looping. I typically use loops much shorter than 30 seconds, and this amount of data would fit on a 16MB CF card. These smaller cards are also very inexpensive. I wish that the "New Loop" and "Track Select" buttons were physically swapped on the foot controller (and the unit...) the "New Loop" button is used very infrequently compared to the "Track Select" button. Once underway the "New Loop" button is really more of a panic button. (EH have explained that they built a failsafe into the NEW LOOP function, you can back out of that selection by pressing play: to create a new loop you must press 'new loop" a second time) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and=20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. Communicating by email is not 100% secure and carries risks such as delay,=20 data corruption, non-delivery, wrongful interception and unauthorised=20 amendment. 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Address for service in Great Britain=20 is UK House, 180 Oxford Street, London W1D 1DS, UK. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C903D0.2601FC7C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.5626" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3DES-MODERN> <P><SPAN class=3D312144820-21082008><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium= "=20 color=3D#0000ff>I am sure a former colleague of mine at MTV wrote a sizeabl= e piece=20 to the list, or to me which I then forwarded, back in mid-2006 when he had = my=20 2880 & footswitch on loan. if it can't be found (& I've trawled my = own=20 archived mails) then this will have to suffice, from the same era, & fr= om=20 the inestimable mr zwicky:</FONT></SPAN></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff></FONT> </= P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>From: Charles Z= wicky=20 [</FONT></SPAN><A href=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net"><U><SPAN=20 lang=3DES-MODERN><FONT=20 face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium">mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net</FONT></U>= </SPAN></A><SPAN=20 lang=3DES-MODERN><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>]= </FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Sent: 27 July 2= 006=20 16:31</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Subject: My tho= ughts on=20 the ELECTRO HARMONIX 2880</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>I'll post this = to the LD=20 website after we've answered any of your questions.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>LOVE:</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Fantastic audio=20 quality.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Physical knobs = and=20 buttons for every function.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>All level, pan,= tempo=20 and click track levels are knobs... you never lose your settings when reset= ting=20 a loop, like the Repeater...</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Separate foot c= ontroller=20 keeps the knobs near your hands and the timing functions near your feet, us= es=20 standard guitar cable to connect to 2880.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Each button has= one=20 function only, no menus, no double clicking, no "7 footswitch presses to ge= t to=20 insert mode" (ala BOSS RC-50).</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Separate feedba= ck=20 control over each track, you can simultaneously perform 'looping' and 'echo= ing'=20 in the same performance simply by selecting the appropriate track.</FONT></= P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>STEREO MIXDOWN = TRACK:=20 Great feature! You can bounce the 4 basic loops to a stereo pair, and in=20 addition you can vari-speed the 4 tracks independently of the mixdown. Whil= e you=20 bounce down you can manipulate the level, pan and pitch in real time, inclu= ding=20 the feedback level of the mixdown track! This feature allows a whole new ty= pe of=20 performance:</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Realtime audio=20 manipulation.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Physical knobs = to=20 control feedback and pitch allow for some entirely new performance=20 possibilities, including DJ type effects...</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Speaking of whi= ch... the=20 MIDI synch (in and out) is really interesting.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>The unit handle= s tempo=20 changes by vari-speeding the audio, no glitching or garbled audio as the=20 Repeater does. If you press reverse while synched to MIDI the device respon= ds=20 with the ballistics of a big tape machine, even in record. This can generat= e=20 some very interesting pitch sweeping effects. ( when the unit is the master= , or=20 not synched it reverses instantly) Also, if you record an initial pass whil= e=20 synched to MIDI and the external tempo is set quite high (300bpm, for examp= le)=20 then slow the tempo way down (to say 20bpm) and get some incredible aliasin= g,=20 ala the original EH 16 second delay... try it!</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>The audio inter= face is=20 very practical and well thought out:</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Stereo audio in= puts with=20 individual left and right input level control and clipping indicators.=20 </FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>In addition, th= ere is a=20 stereo input pan knob which has some very clever functions. When set fully=20 counter-clockwise, the Left Input is monitored at the Left Output and the R= ight=20 Input is monitored at the Right Output. When Pan is set to the CW position,= the=20 Left Input is monitored at the Right Output and the Right Input is monitore= d at=20 the Left Output. When Pan is set to the middle, both Inputs are mixed to bo= th=20 Outputs. The setting of the DRY OUT Fader and the Pan Pot have no influence= on=20 the signal that is recorded. </FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>AUX input: This= is a=20 purely analog through path which is mixed with the signal from the D/A conv= erter=20 and output to the main audio outputs. This AUX input allows you to mix any = other=20 audio source without recording it to the 2880. This makes parallel looping = easy,=20 you can use two other mono loopers or a stereo looper and feed the outputs = into=20 the 2880 AUX input. This can really open up some sonic ground!</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Nice sounding h= eadphone=20 amp with level knob.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>USB 2.0 interfa= ce and CF=20 card reader.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Never an issue = with card=20 compatibility (ala Repeater).</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff></FONT> </= P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>WISHES:</FONT><= /P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>The ability to = store=20 multiple loops on one card would be a great addition, since the device allo= ws so=20 many great performance manipulation options it would be nice to have somepl= ace=20 to keep and access these creations within the unit. You can do so with a=20 computer, but that sort of misses the point. At the moment the workaround i= s to=20 carry several CF cards, not such a bad option to have.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Loop multiply f= unction.=20 It would also be great if the mixdown track could be an independent length,= to=20 record evolving loop mutilations.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>The ability to = respond=20 to Midi PC and CC input for the normal front panel functions. (Electro Harm= onix=20 have told me that this may be possible to add)</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>Signal present=20 indicators over each channel would be nice, I am spoiled by the Repeater's=20 metering system!</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff></FONT> </= P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>I wish that the= "Octave"=20 button would work without halving the Midi Clock rate.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>I wish that sma= ller=20 capacity Compact Flash cards could be used. Since the current OS only allow= s one=20 loop to be saved to a card at a time, smaller cards would be perfect for th= ose=20 of us who rely on smaller loops for ambient looping. I typically use loops = much=20 shorter than 30 seconds, and this amount of data would fit on a 16MB CF car= d.=20 These smaller cards are also very inexpensive.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D"AmericanTypewriter Medium" color=3D#0000ff>I wish that the= "New=20 Loop" and "Track Select" buttons were physically swapped on the foot contro= ller=20 (and the unit...) the "New Loop" button is used very infrequently compared = to=20 the "Track Select" button. Once underway the "New Loop" button is really mo= re of=20 a panic button. (EH have explained that they built a failsafe into the NEW = LOOP=20 function, you can back out of that selection by pressing play: to create a = new=20 loop you must press 'new loop" a second=20 time)</FONT></P></SPAN></DIV><pre> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and=20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. Communicating by email is not 100% secure and carries risks such as delay,=20 data corruption, non-delivery, wrongful interception and unauthorised=20 amendment. If you communicate with us by e-mail, you acknowledge and=20 assume these risks, and you agree to take appropriate measures to minimise=20 these risks when e-mailing us.=20 MTV Networks International, MTV Networks UK & Ireland, Greenhouse,=20 Nickelodeon Viacom Consumer Products, VBSi, Viacom Brand Solutions=20 International and Comedy Central are all trading names of MTV Networks=20 Europe. 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Address for service in Great Britain=20 is UK House, 180 Oxford Street, London W1D 1DS, UK. </pre></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C903D0.2601FC7C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 23:19:04 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A41363BF5E; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <aaronleese@flyloops.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_2418711875246023 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:19:00 -0500 Subject: theremin performance video (OT) From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" <aaronleese@flyloops.com> Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> CC: Message-ID: <d1239b7ade9949a180bdd6930413d5cb@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> Resent-Message-ID: <_aF4ED.A.TfB.offrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:19:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_2418711875246023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0AThis is slightly off topic, since there is no looping ...... bu= t this video is great=0D=0A=0D=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuuKBPEDU-= W0=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_2418711875246023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <br><br><br>This is slightly off topic, since there is no looping ...... bu= t this video is great<br><br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuuKBPEDU-W0<b= r> ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_2418711875246023-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 21 23:59:05 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 399CA3BF57; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <parispro00@hotmail.com> X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <BAY133-W325AFEB3371806C7C9E066DB6B0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bd3a8a7b-a03b-4f4e-a18d-9ef028f9eb27_" X-Originating-IP: [69.29.133.155] From: J Johans <parispro00@hotmail.com> To: <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: rackmount midi controller...? Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:59:03 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <006c01c902b4$f2b05120$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> References: <006c01c902b4$f2b05120$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Aug 2008 23:59:03.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3B9FCD0:01C903E9] Resent-Message-ID: <knJvbB.A.ZbC.JFgrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/83123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:59:05 +0000 (UTC) --_bd3a8a7b-a03b-4f4e-a18d-9ef028f9eb27_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable im looking for something with 10 buttons or so that can do PC and CC - even if its not rack mountable....has anyone seen a relatively small contro= ller with buttons? this is to be operated by my hands=2C not my feet...so small buttons are ok =20 ..for lp1 owners...imagine something that just had the buttons on it and y= ou programmed their function...only needs a midi out =20 any small glimpse of hope would be sweet =20 thankyou fro > From: looppool@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subje= ct: Looping Videos from my Europe/UK tour > Date: Wed=2C 20 Aug 2008 04:07:= 29 -0700> > I just started a page at youtube for anyone interested in seein= g> some of the performances from my recent tour of Scandinavia=2C Germany> = and the UK.> > It's at> > www.youtube.com/DaygloOrangePlastic> > > Currentl= y=2C I have 2 clips from the Looping Festival in Oslo=2C Norway> and the 2n= d Koln Live Looping Festival in Koln=2C Germany.> > > I want to profusely t= hank both the videographers who shot> these two clips=2C Mark Francombe in = Oslo and Walter Bruehn> (who also edited the clips) in Koln as well as> Jan= Weise (Oslo) and Michael Peters (Koln) who respectively produced these> tw= o wonderfully creative multi-artist festivals.> > > Also=2C I wrote an exte= nsive blog of my whole two month tour and I'll be > posting that> soon if a= nyone is interested in reading about the tour and the fantastic > places we= > saw and the amazing people we hung out and played with.> > > yours=2C Ric= k Walker >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be=97learn how to burn a DVD with Win= dows=AE. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/= --_bd3a8a7b-a03b-4f4e-a18d-9ef028f9eb27_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style> .hmmessage P { margin:0px=3B padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt=3B FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } </style> </head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'> im looking for something with 10 buttons or so that can do PC and CC -<BR> even if its not rack mountable....has anyone seen a relatively small contro= ller with buttons?<BR> this is to be operated by my hands=2C not my feet...so small buttons are ok= <BR>  =3B<BR>  =3B..for lp1 owners...imagine something that just had the buttons on i= t and you programmed their function...only needs a midi out<BR>  =3B<BR> any small glimpse of hope would be sweet<BR>  =3B<BR> thankyou<BR> fro<BR> <BR><BR>>=3B From: looppool@cruzio.com<BR>>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com<BR>>=3B Subject: Looping Videos from my Europe/UK tour <B= R>>=3B Date: Wed=2C 20 Aug 2008 04:07:29 -0700<BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B I jus= t started a page at youtube for anyone interested in seeing<BR>>=3B some = of the performances from my recent tour of Scandinavia=2C Germany<BR>>=3B= and the UK.<BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B It's at<BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B www.youtube.= com/DaygloOrangePlastic<BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B Currently=2C I have= 2 clips from the Looping Festival in Oslo=2C Norway<BR>>=3B and the 2nd = Koln Live Looping Festival in Koln=2C Germany.<BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B <BR>>= =3B I want to profusely thank both the videographers who shot<BR>>=3B the= se two clips=2C Mark Francombe in Oslo and Walter Bruehn<BR>>=3B (who als= o edited the clips) in Koln as well as<BR>>=3B Jan Weise (Oslo) and Micha= el Peters (Koln) who respectively produced these<BR>>=3B two wonderfully = creative multi-artist festivals.<BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B Also=2C I = wrote an extensive blog of my whole two month tour and I'll be <BR>>=3B p= osting that<BR>>=3B soon if anyone is interested in reading about the tou= r and the fantastic <BR>>=3B places we<BR>>=3B saw and the amazing peop= le we hung out and played with.<BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B <BR>>=3B yours=2C Ri= ck Walker <BR>>=3B <BR><BR><br /><hr />Be the filmmaker you always wanted= to be=97learn how to burn a DVD with Windows=AE. <a href=3D'http://clk.atd= mt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/' target=3D'_new'>Make your smash hit</a>= </body> </html>= --_bd3a8a7b-a03b-4f4e-a18d-9ef028f9eb27_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 00:28:09 2008 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFD583BF5B; 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But I hav= e been reading Loopers Delight for some time now. </DIV><DIV>Firstly thanks= Jeff for the 2880 firmware, I emailed EHX asking for it but I haven't got = a response yet so that's awesome! I bought one recently and I am hoping the= firmware update fixes a few problems I am having with it (such as the audi= o stretch problems when the 2880 is a midi slave).</DIV><DIV>I'd like to th= ank you all for the knowledge I've gained from reading loopers delight= . I started out by borrowing my friends 20XL once and now I have 2 musical = projects where I loop. <BR>Thanks!</DIV><DIV>Alicia</DIV><DIV> </DIV><= DIV> </DIV><FONT color=3D#990099>-----"Jeff Duke" <jeff=5Fd@embarqm= ail.com> wrote: -----<BR><BR></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; M= ARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com><BR>From: = "Jeff Duke" <jeff=5Fd@embarqmail.com><BR>Date: 08/22/2008 04:26AM<BR>= Subject: Re: review of EH 2880<BR><BR><FONT face=3D"Default Monospace,Couri= er New,Courier,monospace" size=3D2>Yes there is, it,s hard to get a reply f= rom EHX so I have put up the zip <BR>that they sent me, you can get it at:<= BR><BR><A href=3D"http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/2880=5FV1=5F5.zip" target= =3Dblank>http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/2880=5FV1=5F5.zip</A><BR><BR>hope t= his helps. 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 02:57:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B81A83BF62; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=OB4v0m46Vt/jdsYFMujaJiof+h45rI0zB080BAXFQhs=; b=A80Q0TKK42p+FVKjxQV5UD1kQdQLv/j4WVeJS/BuT4Dvfz8b783wbq6JKyQyRC1W13 FNEadhRG1uiSZP7idntKHoWzuELrijQPa0zs7P0HyEABRO8kBTGkh2+mNlklT/laOnVP 96esMgOMqWy0vwm1jmC6+ovmQTxCV6ZfBfKoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=j4ndKINHQjxCW1zXhgEE78csFQapxaR7udI8M0PMk1Z9N8AMM8XnkzXqPST6pH6YAC wIMa3I9NNFoVwsNLrIHIizt8Vq/OHIJIzo8TqIJaF/ZgDUYJyt9N+v+FZfxnWMrRLEPE I0tDH/x+S6YKPggSoR3P3DQhs7/auXDDNa2D4= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:57:41 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 #602 In-Reply-To: <48AE0807.4010300@waste.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_73713_2614591.1219373861675" References: <20080821165250.100563BF69@arsenic.violacea.com> <48AE0807.4010300@waste.org> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:57:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_73713_2614591.1219373861675 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline yes Todd. since I plan getting one of those and i've finished all documets & clips in youtube about ... pleeease. I also searched the LD archives and found a nice review by Rainer. Tell us what you find more valuable in this little toy. 2008/8/22 crash > Ah, speaking of the EH 2880 I could also do a review of the EH Stereo > Memory Man with Hazarai. > > I've used it for one live performance and numerous recordings and all was > well. > > Anyone interested? > > -Todd > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_73713_2614591.1219373861675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    yes Todd. since I plan getting one of those and i've finished all documets & clips in youtube about ... pleeease. I also searched the LD archives and found a nice review by Rainer. Tell us what you find more valuable in this little toy.

    2008/8/22 crash <crash@waste.org>
    Ah, speaking of the EH 2880 I could also do a review of the EH Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai.

    I've used it for one live performance and numerous recordings and all was well.

    Anyone interested?

    -Todd




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    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
    ------=_Part_73713_2614591.1219373861675-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 03:27:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6B113BF3B; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1219375673; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=PlLVvZVNiuraWEmbAgR5tn0yD8Y=; b=FXRN3bxHs/SGjhf7RsssIs1PN7BMSgI78Jk1OZxa9GSBvOl8SygcCsiQ1LYGwbvZ q2nC4r3nvFKdyqm7M7ZeDNpPm2+RfWiBrp1JdBySb/YdafIDmoHby/ZNDpSfqqxu; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=XhLjdHbxeLGiyXTl0lQA:9 a=CBAX9Nbu4dNnwxjR7V8A:7 a=clBZ3rcZdJXccXhMY4QrQyNNCBUA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=N9b56FINjUj9ENHSKbQA:9 a=LJh-OcLLhpBavEeNRoQA:7 a=1cQzd_qLzPARwk52pnEk_iFtPUoA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <003501c90407$0f425f60$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <8CAD1BA400823B5-E50-14D@WEBMAIL-MA04.sysops.aol.com> <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA15BF2E4@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Subject: Re: REposting: reviews of EH 2880 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:27:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C903E5.87AD85A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:27:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C903E5.87AD85A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the re-post on that great review from Mr. Zwicky; "The ability to respond to Midi PC and CC input for the normal front = panel functions. (Electro Harmonix have told me that this may be = possible to add)" According to the firmware update you can now do that and more. I have = not tried it with a midi pedal. >From the firmware update: MIDI CONTROL=20 Independently of the MIDI SYNC state, the 2880 will at all times respond = to=20 certain Control Change messages. These messages have the same effect=20 as pushing 2880's buttons and moving its sliders and rotary controls=20 (except input sensitivity and headphone level). The MIDI channel=20 on which such messages are received can be altered from 2880's panel=20 and saved in internal memory.=20 SETTING THE MIDI CHANNEL=20 Press MIXDOWN and hold it for more than 2 seconds.=20 This will cause all of the LEDs except the four track LEDs to blink.=20 The state of the track LEDs indicates the channel to which 2880 is=20 currently set. It uses the following code ("." =3D LED off):=20 Track LED 1 2 3 4 =3D MIDI channel=20 . . . . 1=20 . . . ON 2=20 . . ON . 3=20 . . ON ON 4=20 . ON . . 5=20 . ON . ON 6=20 . ON ON . 7=20 . ON ON ON 8=20 ON . . . 9=20 ON . . ON 10=20 ON . ON . 11=20 ON . ON ON 12=20 ON ON . . 13=20 ON ON . ON 14=20 ON ON ON . 15=20 ON ON ON ON 16=20 If one holds MIXDOWN, the track LEDs will advance through the above=20 sequence to select a different channel. When one releases MIXDOWN=20 the channel selected will be saved after power cycling.=20 MIDI CONTROL CHANGE MESSAGES=20 At power up the 2880 will always be in OMNI=3DOFF mode. This means that = it=20 will only obey Control Change messages on the selected channel. The 2880 = can however be switched to OMNI=3DON mode by receipt of the appropriate=20 command on its selected channel. In OMNI=3DON mode 2880 will respond to=20 CONTROL CHANGE MESSAGES (except OMNI=3DOFF) on any channel.=20 Each CONTROL CHANGE message carries two information bytes- the=20 Controller Change Number (CC#) and the data value (DV). The following = table=20 shows which of 2880's functions the information bytes control:=20 CC# DV 2880 Parameter=20 9 0 to 127 Clix level=20 20 0 to 127 Live signals monitor level=20 21 0 to 127 Track 1 play/feedback level=20 22 0 to 127 Track 2 play/feedback level=20 23 0 to 127 Track 3 play/feedback level=20 24 0 to 127 Track 4 play/feedback level=20 25 0 to 127 Mix track play/feedback level=20 26 0 to 127 Tempo slider=20 27 0 to 127 Live signals pan=20 28 0 to 127 Track 1 pan=20 29 0 to 127 Track 2 pan=20 30 0 to 127 Track 3 pan=20 31 0 to 127 Track 4 pan=20 102 127 Push REC button=20 103 127 Push NEW button=20 104 127 Push PLAY button=20 105 127 Push TRACK SELECT button=20 106 127 Push EXT SYNC button=20 107 127 Push MIXDOWN button=20 108 127 Push STEREO button=20 109 127 Push REVERSE button=20 110 127 Push OCTAVE button=20 111 127 Push PUNCH-IN button=20 112 127 Push QUANTIZE button=20 124 0 Change to OMNI=3DOFF=20 125 0 Change to OMNI=3DON=20 There must be at least 300mS between each button push message.=20 MIDI PROGRAM CHANGE MESSAGES=20 The 2880 also interprets certain Program change messages as button = pushes=20 and mute/unmute commands. A program change message has one information=20 byte, P0 (0 to 127), but this is usually presented to the user as being=20 1 to 128, shown below as P1.=20 P0 P1 2880 Parameter=20 80 81 Push PLAY button=20 81 82 Mute/unmute track 1's play **=20 82 83 Mute/unmute track 2's play **=20 83 84 Mute/unmute track 3's play **=20 84 85 Mute/unmute track 4's play **=20 85 86 Push REC button=20 86 87 Select track 1 for record (or 1 and 2 if stereo)=20 87 88 Select track 2 for record (or 1 and 2 if stereo)=20 88 89 Select track 3 for record (or 3 and 4 if stereo)=20 89 90 Select track 4 for record (or 3 and 4 if stereo)=20 90 91 Push NEW button=20 91 92 Push QUANTIZE button=20 92 93 Push REC button=20 93 94 Push PLAY button=20 94 95 Push REVERSE button=20 95 96 Push TRACK SELECT button=20 96 97 Push STEREO button=20 97 98 Push PUNCH-IN button=20 98 99 Push EXT SYNC button=20 99 100 Push OCTAVE button=20 100 101 Push PLAY button=20 101 102 Mute/unmute track 1's play **=20 102 103 Mute/unmute track 2's play **=20 103 104 Mute/unmute track 3's play **=20 104 105 Mute/unmute track 4's play **=20 105 106 Push REC button=20 106 107 Push MIXDOWN button=20 107 108 Mute/unmute mix track's play **=20 108 109 Mute/unmute Dry Out **=20 109 110 Mute/unmute clix level **=20 110 111 Mute/unmute all play tracks ***=20 ** The single channel mute/unmute action works as follows:=20 If the channel's level is greater than zero when the command is=20 received then the channel will be muted. If the channel's level=20 is zero when the command is received then the level will be set=20 either to that of 2880's panel fader or to that of the last CC=20 message (20..24), depending on which was most recently effective.=20 *** When a mute/unmute all-play-tracks command is received all play=20 tracks will be muted if ANY of them is greater than zero. If=20 ALL of them are zero then each will be set to fader or CC level.=20 MIDI OUT (MIDI THRU)=20 2880 generally relays all received MIDI messages at its MIDI out=20 connector. But in Internal sync mode it does not relay the=20 sequencer commands: STOP START CONT CLOCK=20 Sorry for the long post, someone try it and let me know! Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C903E5.87AD85A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Thanks for = the re-post=20 on that great review from Mr. Zwicky;

    "The ability = to respond=20 to Midi PC and CC input for the normal front panel functions. (Electro = Harmonix=20 have told me that this may be possible to add)"

    According to the firmware update you can now do = that and=20 more. I have not tried it with a midi pedal.

    From the firmware update:

    MIDI CONTROL

    Independently of the MIDI SYNC state, the 2880 will at = all times=20 respond to

    certain Control Change messages. These messages have the = same=20 effect

    as pushing 2880's buttons and moving its sliders and = rotary=20 controls

    (except input sensitivity and headphone level). The MIDI = channel=20

    on which such messages are received can be altered from = 2880's=20 panel

    and saved in internal memory.

    SETTING THE MIDI CHANNEL

    Press MIXDOWN and hold it for more than 2 seconds.

    This will cause all of the LEDs except the four track = LEDs to=20 blink.

    The state of the track LEDs indicates the channel to = which 2880 is=20

    currently set. It uses the following code ("." =3D LED = off):=20

    Track LED 1 2 3 4 =3D MIDI channel

    . . . . 1

    . . . ON 2

    . . ON . 3

    . . ON ON 4

    . ON . . 5

    . ON . ON 6

    . ON ON . 7

    . ON ON ON 8

    ON . . . 9

    ON . . ON 10

    ON . ON . 11

    ON . ON ON 12

    ON ON . . 13

    ON ON . ON 14

    ON ON ON . 15

    ON ON ON ON 16

    If one holds MIXDOWN, the track LEDs will advance = through the=20 above

    sequence to select a different channel. When one = releases MIXDOWN=20

    the channel selected will be saved after power cycling.=20

    MIDI CONTROL CHANGE MESSAGES

    At power up the 2880 will always be in OMNI=3DOFF mode. = This means=20 that it

    will only obey Control Change messages on the selected = channel.=20 The 2880

    can however be switched to OMNI=3DON mode by receipt of = the=20 appropriate

    command on its selected channel. In OMNI=3DON mode 2880 = will respond=20 to

    CONTROL CHANGE MESSAGES (except OMNI=3DOFF) on any = channel.

    Each CONTROL CHANGE message carries two information = bytes- the=20

    Controller Change Number (CC#) and the data value (DV). = The=20 following table

    shows which of 2880's functions the information bytes = control:=20

    CC# DV 2880 Parameter

    9 0 to 127 Clix level

    20 0 to 127 Live signals monitor level

    21 0 to 127 Track 1 play/feedback level

    22 0 to 127 Track 2 play/feedback level

    23 0 to 127 Track 3 play/feedback level

    24 0 to 127 Track 4 play/feedback level

    25 0 to 127 Mix track play/feedback level

    26 0 to 127 Tempo slider

    27 0 to 127 Live signals pan

    28 0 to 127 Track 1 pan

    29 0 to 127 Track 2 pan

    30 0 to 127 Track 3 pan

    31 0 to 127 Track 4 pan

    102 127 Push REC button

    103 127 Push NEW button

    104 127 Push PLAY button

    105 127 Push TRACK SELECT button

    106 127 Push EXT SYNC button

    107 127 Push MIXDOWN button

    108 127 Push STEREO button

    109 127 Push REVERSE button

    110 127 Push OCTAVE button

    111 127 Push PUNCH-IN button

    112 127 Push QUANTIZE button

    124 0 Change to OMNI=3DOFF

    125 0 Change to OMNI=3DON

    There must be at least 300mS between each button push = message.=20

    MIDI PROGRAM CHANGE MESSAGES

    The 2880 also interprets certain Program change messages = as button=20 pushes

    and mute/unmute commands. A program change message has = one=20 information

    byte, P0 (0 to 127), but this is usually presented to = the user as=20 being

    1 to 128, shown below as P1.

    P0 P1 2880 Parameter

    80 81 Push PLAY button

    81 82 Mute/unmute track 1's play **

    82 83 Mute/unmute track 2's play **

    83 84 Mute/unmute track 3's play **

    84 85 Mute/unmute track 4's play **

    85 86 Push REC button

    86 87 Select track 1 for record (or 1 and 2 if stereo) =

    87 88 Select track 2 for record (or 1 and 2 if stereo) =

    88 89 Select track 3 for record (or 3 and 4 if stereo) =

    89 90 Select track 4 for record (or 3 and 4 if stereo) =

    90 91 Push NEW button

    91 92 Push QUANTIZE button

    92 93 Push REC button

    93 94 Push PLAY button

    94 95 Push REVERSE button

    95 96 Push TRACK SELECT button

    96 97 Push STEREO button

    97 98 Push PUNCH-IN button

    98 99 Push EXT SYNC button

    99 100 Push OCTAVE button

    100 101 Push PLAY button

    101 102 Mute/unmute track 1's play **

    102 103 Mute/unmute track 2's play **

    103 104 Mute/unmute track 3's play **

    104 105 Mute/unmute track 4's play **

    105 106 Push REC button

    106 107 Push MIXDOWN button

    107 108 Mute/unmute mix track's play **

    108 109 Mute/unmute Dry Out **

    109 110 Mute/unmute clix level **

    110 111 Mute/unmute all play tracks ***

    ** The single channel mute/unmute action works as = follows:

    If the channel's level is greater than zero when the = command is=20

    received then the channel will be muted. If the = channel's level=20

    is zero when the command is received then the level will = be set=20

    either to that of 2880's panel fader or to that of the = last CC=20

    message (20..24), depending on which was most recently = effective.=20

    *** When a mute/unmute all-play-tracks command is = received all=20 play

    tracks will be muted if ANY of them is greater than = zero. If

    ALL of them are zero then each will be set to fader or = CC level.=20

    MIDI OUT (MIDI THRU)

    2880 generally relays all received MIDI messages at its = MIDI out=20

    connector. But in Internal sync mode it does not relay = the

    sequencer commands: STOP START CONT CLOCK

    Sorry for the long post, someone try it and let = me=20 know!

     

    Jeff

     

     

     

    ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C903E5.87AD85A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 04:15:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1A693BF6A; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AeF5en61QzMA:10 a=Cbe6nMievYwA:10 a=3nHVPkg0AAAA:20 a=Ia2KGxBZ03HnIKZOnaoA:9 a=8RuNqqtu6BPEQq5VvejhVgRH69sA:4 a=eSlRlQGebyEA:10 a=f-ADshzQSboA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:15:18 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:15:21 +0000 (UTC) so this is a video of what i did yesterday (without hardware!). i performed with this incredible artist named Robert Hodgin. he does music visualization, or generative art, and in this performance the animation is responding, live, to my music. low res video doesn't really do it justice of course.... http://tinyurl.com/63g3tt this performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it again! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 04:35:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20DED3BF65; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:35:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> Thread-Index: AckEDb7cL087P6mLQfuPwh52hRhu5QAAlptg Message-Id: <20080822043521.BA7D13BF55@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:35:22 +0000 (UTC) That was cool. I assume you were not able to see the visuals, right? Robert was certainly intuitive and anticipated some of your modifications quite nicely. Cello sounded huge and rich, too--I liked seeing your right foot pop out every now and then to activate a command. dave Dave Gallaher Microwave Dave & The Nukes micdave@hiwaay.net www.microwavedave.com 256-519-9993 PO Box 18622 Huntsville, AL 35804 Talkin' the Blues with Microwave Dave Tuesdays, 6-8pm. WJAB 90.9 FM www.aamu.edu/wjab/ 256-372-5861 Saturdays, 8-9pm WLRH 89.3 FM www.wlrh.org 256-895-9574 -----Original Message----- From: info at zoekeating [mailto:info@zoekeating.com] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:15 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation so this is a video of what i did yesterday (without hardware!). i performed with this incredible artist named Robert Hodgin. he does music visualization, or generative art, and in this performance the animation is responding, live, to my music. low res video doesn't really do it justice of course.... http://tinyurl.com/63g3tt this performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it again! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 04:41:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B83F93BF7B; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=FDQHafVYeBAgYGnuhJQsNx5CLGRRqb25E8pstEbtlaM=; b=V3YU37C1KznNc6Zk4h96OfSN0Ll3yLWemj59afr3tx0oO8jgYh9bHwJ6L1RHKuVnvT G5mMW+iIG4pOKWGDHF/mXjI+j2RA3kxQ4k1Zt2xPR3o+QbluSMq5SeJgFTsPUY/iptpv JYCuwDAhVWQKtg10J3qosHyKgXnOFZFWmLzvs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vN94EamEZyOvTk+WxF1e+wOOO+EjAwCvfpoesZ1ZYSDuClMubwhx6xlVF1sMgHtzqv IndF+MZo3qwo4NvZkDVA7ojuK6T8w5cbsy8kGugC4nmib16A3Wr99zkv2ElkjK4QU577 6L9lOJ9GHD7t6FxgwO/ao2fCQzvT6SsYEZbWw= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:41:26 -0700 From: "Michael Billow" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation In-Reply-To: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_52917_22953798.1219380086324" References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:41:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_52917_22953798.1219380086324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Nice work! On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:15 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > so this is a video of what i did yesterday (without hardware!). i performed > with this incredible artist named Robert Hodgin. he does music > visualization, or generative art, and in this performance the animation is > responding, live, to my music. > > low res video doesn't really do it justice of course.... > > http://tinyurl.com/63g3tt > > this performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it again! > > ------=_Part_52917_22953798.1219380086324 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Nice work!

    On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:15 PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
    so this is a video of what i did yesterday (without hardware!). i performed with this incredible artist named Robert Hodgin. he does music visualization, or generative art, and in this performance the animation is responding, live, to my music.

    low res video doesn't really do it justice of course....

    http://tinyurl.com/63g3tt

    this performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it again!


    ------=_Part_52917_22953798.1219380086324-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 04:46:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A1ED3BF6B; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=RdHJuqSVZgOp6kV0/yqFrNaJP6gDveNiiJZJxZOjc5MXrMowa4DNEk4ePUJAUE8ql50lGVbhedWx+6a99EzP5tI+3FYkWsqhwPog7X0ZGfU+zmjxvWE4ZVQw5/0gk8/lcfg82Tov2gd2K9U1fdAryyd/CC80D4Zv7DxaEoMwsKY=; X-YMail-OSG: 3Xaguz0VM1mVKnsSJrvnQ4muMA58LR.60W0gZ73_hILKOBpRY38NziY42TQ3FGyObxocJZLyWwuhxCLKkFdki3qYzMuDySDwbrg.galm3tuT53A6JPnYIY_KVXyPlySdtA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <679677.18535.qm@web50308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:46:35 +0000 (UTC) > this performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it > again! I just LOL'd that you consider a performance at a major conference filled with designer/technologists a "test"! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 05:05:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 605C93BF82; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <48AE0807.4010300@waste.org> References: <20080821165250.100563BF69@arsenic.violacea.com> <48AE0807.4010300@waste.org> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:03:56 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 #602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120fa525d4c9c70556b8db7adfdf9c1719d7486c6becc8a208c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Yes, Please! >Ah, speaking of the EH 2880 I could also do a review of the EH >Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai. > >I've used it for one live performance and numerous recordings and >all was well. > >Anyone interested? > >-Todd -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 07:08:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83B433BF80; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> Subject: RE: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:08:10 +0200 Message-ID: <006701c90425$d64de520$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckEGhWluK0Sqo/FS1S3mMZMxdAHfAAC6XMQ X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.23; VDF: 7.0.6.49) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:08:15 +0000 (UTC) a beautiful music performance and quite impressive graphics! -michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 07:50:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC07B3BF85; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48AE6FC4.9030303@addcom.de> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:50:28 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Juan Molina: Y2k8 festival booking possiblities? References: <009801c8ff8f$63580c20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <009801c8ff8f$63580c20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > Juana, as wonderful as she is, doesn't have that connection to our > community. Yes, that was what I wanted to point out, I just responded to the "different league" as a musical term, I don't see her in a different league there. But of course if you look at it as a "business" term its certainly a different league. Obviously she won't fly in just to play for free. Only if it would happen that she is connected to our community and she'd be around anyway (highly unlikely) something could be arranged... I am just a hopeless romantic dreamer... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 09:01:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADA603BF83; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:01:32 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:rackmount midi controller...? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:01:34 +0000 (UTC) > ..for lp1 owners...imagine something that just had the buttons on it a= nd > you programmed their function...only needs a midi out For controllers, click here http://www.thomann.de/be/misc_controllers.htm= l Are you going to use it for the LP1? >--- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 09:42:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B16A3BF88; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:42:23 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:41:31 -0400 References: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: <4APllC.A.LVB._norIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Hey, that's my dream... On Aug 21, 2008, at 11:51 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: > nd i'll run all the looping software on an iphone. -- PS. -- http://teddyjam.com new live recordings -- http://myspace.com/teddykjam friend me From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 09:49:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E299B3BF8B; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QE7o7w5BiA3ZJ3gQJxdeTpEoSuqtZGfNR0/bQl63l0o=; b=K1habvclNoYs+aBI0hdzkV43QS7XiouagroM1l6i6NtZGK3QDMHvu/4kNHtPQmedXc cXVM+dw0L1YrrXhmmalnNGkP0OnrXt8WI5/Jv1nPLclch1L1JtBqdOlpzoJWgjiPUdjr DDdGCuUeGMin6TwiwpQnnTOox0378Lx2QWkxU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=dP7GcUzIlhP0Rrwz+sKE//uqvkCeJXeFxR/9vnU8MuJDZrpKw2plkt45ZQ6681bvU4 ZGm6pMpUJO0bsEP4b0ALHV/dxAoINizntQMQZrkWM9i7o96my9voY4Mm59X5eyL0fOY2 CPc/synCRMgr3MwQug21J/v5OBD81GMHHjemM= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:49:47 +0400 From: "Jeff Lomas" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:49:53 +0000 (UTC) I think my first no-gear looping performance was a round of "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" in first grade sing-along. ;-) -jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 10:37:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C44F3BF7E; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6htIaHvDEfIA:10 a=6cknLEGUBsoA:10 a=va2K8xiYI250G4okqKEA:9 a=PJXDRskL9jLbrJr8su7pgBOJkcMA:4 a=ZWFHt83BPVYA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Ed Drake Subject: Looperlative review in the new Guitar Player magazine Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:37:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:37:32 +0000 (UTC) FYI In the brand spankin' new October issue with Sonny Landreth on the cover. My copy came in the mail the other day so it won't be on news stands for a bit. The Looperlative got a great and an editor's pick review so congrats to Bob. It was reviewed by Barry Cleveland who seems to be the resident looper at GP. Bill Walker got a mention for helping out. Ed From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 10:51:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6C1E3BF76; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <6911F39F-19BC-4E05-BC9C-204E6965F4A7@arcor.de> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-576929362 From: Andreas Willers Subject: New Tunes Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:51:37 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8072/Fri Aug 22 11:20:03 2008 on mail-in-05.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:51:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-576929362 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi list, after being offlist for quite some time (mainly due to a technical =20 problem - I had trouble re-subscribing, not unsubscribing! Kim sorted =20= it out for me) I got back in touch after performing at the Berlin =20 Loopfest. It was a nice hang with the Loopergang, thanks to Leander =20 for putting it together! I have in the last year recorded over two hours of material for an =20 upcoming solo release and put two songs up on my MySpace thing: www.myspace.com/andreaswillers "Drowning Migrant" features a setup I call Time Lag Accumulator 21, =20 constisting mainly out of a long hall reverb going into one forward =20 and one reverse delay panned left and right with 100% wet delay =20 settings. "Against Better Judgement" is a mix of standard and =20 granular EDP action. There will be much more stuff, some non-tonal =20 ballads and even groove stuff with fuzz bass and self-played drums ;-) Currently on MySpace there are four more tunes from my prior =20 releases, more jazz oriented stuff with players like Paul Bley (piano =20= on "Face Two"), Dominique Pifar=E9ly (violin on "Grau Normal Ja") and =20= Tom Rainey (drums on "Schlaf") Regards, Andreas Willers --Apple-Mail-1-576929362 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi list,

    after being offlist for quite some time = (mainly due to a technical problem - I had trouble re-subscribing, not = unsubscribing! Kim sorted it out for me) I got back in touch after = performing at the Berlin Loopfest. It was a nice hang with the = Loopergang, thanks to Leander for putting it = together!

    I have in the last year recorded over = two hours of material for an upcoming solo release and put two songs up = on my MySpace = thing:

    www.myspace.com/andreaswillers
    <= br>
    "Drowning Migrant" features a setup I call Time Lag = Accumulator 21, constisting mainly out of a long hall reverb going into = one forward and one reverse delay panned left and right with 100% wet = delay settings. "Against Better Judgement" is a mix of standard and = granular EDP action. There will be much more stuff, some non-tonal = ballads and even groove stuff with fuzz bass and self-played drums = ;-)

    Currently on MySpace there are four more = tunes from my prior releases, more jazz oriented stuff with players like = Paul Bley (piano on "Face Two"), Dominique Pifar=E9ly (violin on "Grau = Normal Ja") and Tom Rainey (drums on = "Schlaf")

    Regards, Andreas Willers
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 13:01:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0E313BF6D; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=baFIiUF4tIzaft05r83sAanGz+d5MbktTMvCvP0EqCe3PvMHR/RFK5mo+Twgwn95JAnv7w8wkrLNGkzpXYoQruoTDUx4Kyo0hp9UhIpdWciIKGNQEghw0AMAzGEMGJfCTh2RZKYIE+lq4Q+1Gfi/fXRsw4Adgo83r82xeCs4qB0=; X-YMail-OSG: plxxigoVM1ns7zesq47.ALFijeUhUtU6nkuqWJsoGVo854qlarqiqvLseP6STdGIO4PJKwI_ABOMzk58.1ouoOKKpE5nNV6xWlyinTKLoW4yq5f1OAiMsn9TsZ7xw5rcQIiqX7nyu7yC43esA6oM9aN3 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:01:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: echoplex digital pro plus for sale(germany) O.T. To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <55698.786.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, before i put in in ebay i wanted to tell you that i will be selling one of my EDPs is in good condition with minor rack scratches.I recently bought a looperlative and allready have one EDP. please contact me if u are interested cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From cvs@thun4.digitalfotoversand.de Fri Aug 22 13:50:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5844 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:50:46 UTC Received: from thun4.digitalfotoversand.de (thun4.digitalfotoversand.de [212.78.113.158]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B85C3BF6F for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thun4.digitalfotoversand.de (Postfix, from userid 1034) id F0769320A5; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:56:55 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: hallmark.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20080822115655.F0769320A5@thun4.digitalfotoversand.de> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:56:55 +0200 (CEST)
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 15:27:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF72D3BF72; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <019501c9046b$a32e92c0$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: Subject: Re: Looperlative review in the new Guitar Player magazine Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:27:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Ed, Thanks so much for the posting. I've been quietly waiting for the review to hit the streets and I'm so glad that it is finally out. Barry Cleveland is a wonderful musician and looper himself. I'm so happy that he wrote this review. He did a great job with it. As for Bill Walker, I also owe him a big thank you for helping to get this done. I can't say enough nice things about Bill and the time that he invested into helping. -Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 17:52:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24F453BF74; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 574 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:52:49 UTC X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=No5EcEP4AAAA:8 a=d3s395feAAAA:8 a=RdnYHGGe5AVbG6J9o2MA:9 a=Jv-s4smlrS5xE3HdjCXn2zTMfu8A:4 a=v6MMM96S_sUA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=tYatiQnrwJYK7timKDoA:9 a=UyG15sNdqPqx--HR11YcxiZ0kaAA:4 a=mEwkxK14XeoA:10 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:43:13 -0700 From: DAVID BROWN Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 #602 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--772e753c6325d4ebc1cd0 Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal References: <20080821165250.100563BF69@arsenic.violacea.com> <48AE0807.4010300@waste.org> Resent-Message-ID: <7PTeYB.A.zrF.xzvrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:52:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----772e753c6325d4ebc1cd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Charles=2C If you intend to write a review you=A0 may want to be awar= e of David Lambkins thoughtful comparison between the EH Memory Man with= Hazarai and the Eventide Timefactor =2E His comments persuaded me to bu= y the Memory Man which I haven=27t regretted=2E http=3A//psg=2Ecom/=7Edl= amkins/lamkins-guitar/music/article/smmh-vs-timefactor David Brown ----- Original Message ----- From=3A Charles Zwicky =3Ccazwicky=40earthlink=2Enet=3E Date=3A Thursday=2C August 21=2C 2008 10=3A05 pm Subject=3A Re=3A Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 =23602 To=3A Loopers-Delight=40loopers-delight=2Ecom =3E = =3E Yes=2C Please! =3E = =3E = =3E =3EAh=2C speaking of the EH 2880 I could also do a review of the EH = =3E =3EStereo Memory Man with Hazarai=2E =3E =3E =3E =3EI=27ve used it for one live performance and numerous recordings = =3E and = =3E =3Eall was well=2E =3E =3E =3E =3EAnyone interested=3F =3E =3E =3E =3E-Todd =3E = =3E = =3E -- = =3E =2E=2E=2E =3E http=3A//www=2Ezmix=2Enet =3E = =3E ----772e753c6325d4ebc1cd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Charles=2C If you intend to write a review you=26nbsp=3B may want to = be aware of David Lambkins thoughtful comparison between the EH Memory M= an with Hazarai and the Eventide Timefactor =2E His comments persuaded m= e to buy the Memory Man which I haven=27t regretted=2E http=3A//psg=2Eco= m/=7Edlamkins/lamkins-guitar/music/article/smmh-vs-timefactor=3Cbr=3E=3C= br=3EDavid Brown=3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E----- Original Message -----=3Cbr=3EFrom= =3A Charles Zwicky =26lt=3Bcazwicky=40earthlink=2Enet=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3EDat= e=3A Thursday=2C August 21=2C 2008 10=3A05 pm=3Cbr=3ESubject=3A Re=3A Lo= opers-Delight-d Digest V08 =23602=3Cbr=3ETo=3A Loopers-Delight=40loopers= -delight=2Ecom=3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B Yes=2C Please!=3C= br=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3BAh=2C speaking o= f the EH 2880 I could also do a review of the EH =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B= Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B= =26gt=3BI=27ve used it for one live performance and numerous recordings= =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B and =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3Ball was well=2E=3Cbr=3E=26= gt=3B =26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3BAnyone interested=3F=3Cbr=3E=26gt= =3B =26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B-Todd=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt= =3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B -- =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =2E=2E=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B http=3A= //www=2Ezmix=2Enet=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B ----772e753c6325d4ebc1cd0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 17:58:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BC3E3BF84; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <0CC2C109-EE49-4912-A357-63FAB9761195@zoekeating.com> References: <0E9616CA-FF5B-4C78-8070-8492DFE4FD65@zoekeating.com> <20080821113138.ac4pqr4pwkgsw0o4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <0CC2C109-EE49-4912-A357-63FAB9761195@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <30ED5F4E-F997-480D-BE93-85F166C40739@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: first looping performance without hardware Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:58:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Maybe try Digital Performer or Live instead of Logic? I hear good things about Logic, but stability isn't one of them. When I saw Thomas Dolby perform with two G5s Logic died twice during the show. I don't really do that much performance with Digital Performer but it's very stable for me on my G5. I've been using Live these days but my "Live" rig is PC and it's pretty damn stable. The coolest thing is that usually when it goes down it stops responding to mouse clicks but my loops keep going and Mobius will still respond to MIDI so I'm able to gracefully fade out. Normally though, it only crashes when I'm mucking about with Jamstix (an improvisational drum machine) in some way that I wouldn't try during a performance. Mark On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:42 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: > the other thing was that i didn't have to worry about midi issues. > usually, its risky for me to setup and then leave everything for an > extended period before performing. sometimes the midi between my > motu ultralite and my external gear will die. the only way to get > it back is restart the motu. i suffer many anxieties wondering if > my midi will be live and i have yet to solve the issue. motu blames > apple. apple blames motu. ableton blames motu. > > but with no external gear, there is are no midi connections to > worry about other than my pedal. > > On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:31 AM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > >> Quoting info at zoekeating : >>> >>> ... very satisfying to have all my gear (with the exception >>> of the FCB1010) in a backback. >>> >> Your approach -- to carry as little equipment as possible, >> resonates with me. >> >> While I enjoy my hardware/equipment rack, in most cases there >> simply isn't enough setup time to feel at ease with a lot of inter- >> connected hardware. >> >> -- Kevin >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 17:58:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70D5C3BF91; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-602562425 Message-Id: <8D07F71B-9E1B-48A3-9DB9-60D74DD379DF@zerocrossing.net> From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:58:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:58:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9-602562425 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Very nice Zoe! On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Michael Billow wrote: > Nice work! > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:15 PM, info at zoekeating > wrote: > so this is a video of what i did yesterday (without hardware!). i > performed with this incredible artist named Robert Hodgin. he does > music visualization, or generative art, and in this performance the > animation is responding, live, to my music. > > low res video doesn't really do it justice of course.... > > http://tinyurl.com/63g3tt > > this performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it again! > > --Apple-Mail-9-602562425 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Very nice Zoe!

    On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Michael = Billow wrote:

    Nice work!

    On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:15 PM, info at = zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> = wrote:
    so this is a video of what i did yesterday (without hardware!). i = performed with this incredible artist named Robert Hodgin. he does music = visualization, or generative art, and in this performance the animation = is responding, live, to my music.

    low res video doesn't really = do it justice of course....

    http://tinyurl.com/63g3tt

    this = performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it again!

    =


    = --Apple-Mail-9-602562425-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 18:11:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A54E93BF20; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20080821165250.100563BF69@arsenic.violacea.com> <48AE0807.4010300@waste.org> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:10:31 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 #602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120cd63524dbef1dbdcf2670ea3816abf9cb7cc4e2e533a380b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:11:32 +0000 (UTC) I was simply encouraging Todd to write one.... (see text below). >Hi Charles, If you intend to write a review you may want to be >aware of David Lambkins thoughtful comparison between the EH Memory >Man with Hazarai and the Eventide Timefactor . His comments >persuaded me to buy the Memory Man which I haven't regretted. >http://psg.com/~dlamkins/lamkins-guitar/music/article/smmh-vs-timefactor > >David Brown > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Charles Zwicky >Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:05 pm >Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 #602 >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> >> Yes, Please! >> >> >> >Ah, speaking of the EH 2880 I could also do a review of the EH >> >Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai. >> > >> >I've used it for one live performance and numerous recordings >> and >> >all was well. >> > >> >Anyone interested? >> > >> >-Todd >> >> >> -- >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net >> >> -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 18:42:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDFD63BF93; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zS0E352bZtSFR9jMFjLacgKO1QJ1d/5AEe55XgVkLFY=; b=TVj8a2G+wM7ng8n7pbGYbYsambavYyFdekrq6TWE+P1peQZ09XqOIWm06tghR0lzBk yPfbgZg5ZtlwiBb9iz4/F9ZRhDhci2sRIv48Ewam9dy6i1upbqQ1QeYC8Y0U8+YoPy72 hpvRXbhXtnJkEE6r8teVL2PlxQx7m+8kVBXOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ChocsyQhd06DMIIsAcO7vvvScwMbb3d5LUgI/Z/rTyuhyIv7o2eXh5VQvcAqgCNVav jOqEgFIsHLE1amDd0WhVCSMF5GIbf90+YEy97Yq/JH9brtgvLS4JgUtGUKiw9u/u6s08 tB6n5NnHjTo1zf/uqy3qBB3FFfpaBSvh6J0FE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:41:59 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation In-Reply-To: <8D07F71B-9E1B-48A3-9DB9-60D74DD379DF@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_82130_24062346.1219430519982" References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> <8D07F71B-9E1B-48A3-9DB9-60D74DD379DF@zerocrossing.net> Resent-Message-ID: <0FJepC.A.ISH.4hwrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:42:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_82130_24062346.1219430519982 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline beatiful.great sense on structure by your side. may you explain which was your set up? several instances of sooperlooper inside ableton live? are you using each instance for the different sections, going mute on/off? ... please some notes for the students here :-) raul. 2008/8/22 Mark Sottilaro > Very nice Zoe! > > On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Michael Billow wrote: > > Nice work! > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:15 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > >> so this is a video of what i did yesterday (without hardware!). i >> performed with this incredible artist named Robert Hodgin. he does music >> visualization, or generative art, and in this performance the animation is >> responding, live, to my music. >> >> low res video doesn't really do it justice of course.... >> >> http://tinyurl.com/63g3tt >> >> this performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it again! >> >> > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_82130_24062346.1219430519982 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    beatiful.
    great sense on structure by your side.
    may you explain which was your set up?
    several instances of sooperlooper inside ableton live?
    are you using each instance for the different sections,
    going mute on/off? ... please some notes for the students here :-)

    raul.

    2008/8/22 Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net>
    Very nice Zoe!

    On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Michael Billow wrote:

    Nice work!

    On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:15 PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
    so this is a video of what i did yesterday (without hardware!). i performed with this incredible artist named Robert Hodgin. he does music visualization, or generative art, and in this performance the animation is responding, live, to my music.

    low res video doesn't really do it justice of course....

    http://tinyurl.com/63g3tt

    this performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it again!






    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
    ------=_Part_82130_24062346.1219430519982-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 19:00:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAE123BF8F; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aCkkL1vs66gA:10 a=Dt3pyMjzG3gA:10 a=FPdR_6ERNujA1xN2EHAA:9 a=ez8lYKO5EKdyKkFq8DCNqHsXOMMA:4 a=7UMZxRzt7ZAA:10 a=qCJpsEs9NIPrnZfwkFgA:9 a=MdG19NwWDxKyBv1CV0bdTgLpUtAA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> <8D07F71B-9E1B-48A3-9DB9-60D74DD379DF@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-606281854 Message-Id: From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:00:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <_HLEXD.A.D4H.lzwrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:00:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-606281854 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed sure! Ableton Live and 3 instances of SooperLooper. The parts that I "sample" (i.e. record and then playback without overdubs) I do inside Ableton Live. The parts that I "loop" (i.e. classic overdub, layering thing we all love) I do inside SooperLooper. Certain sections of the song, I automate the recording and playback using sequenced midi notes in Live. So Live plays a note and that note triggers a function (like record, or mute, or overdub) either in Live or SooperLooper. Certain sections I do all the functions with my feet. Depending on how things are going onstage, I go back and forth between more or less automation or foot-control. All the "looping" parts used to be done in my Electrix Repeaters. I did manage to get SooperLooper to do it for this piece, but I'm having a hard time getting SooperLooper to make the same length loop and play it back in sync every time. Even automating the recording by firing a midi clip, it can still be slightly off. To get around that annoyance for this song, I "faked" the sync by having Live rhythmically fade out the SooperLooper tracks and give emphasis on downbeats! That way, no matter what SooperLooper was doing, I'd always have a pulse in the right place! Kludgy. That's the last barrier for me now, how to make SooperLooper reliably loop in time. On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > beatiful. > great sense on structure by your side. > may you explain which was your set up? > several instances of sooperlooper inside ableton live? > are you using each instance for the different sections, > going mute on/off? ... please some notes for the students here :-) > > raul. --Apple-Mail-3-606281854 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 sure!

    Ableton Live and 3 instances of = SooperLooper.

    The parts that I "sample" (i.e. = record and then playback without overdubs) I do inside Ableton = Live.
    The parts that I "loop" (i.e. classic overdub, layering = thing we all love) I do inside = SooperLooper.

    Certain sections of the song, I = automate the recording and playback using sequenced midi notes in Live. = So Live plays a note and that note triggers a function (like record, or = mute, or overdub) either in Live or = SooperLooper.

    Certain sections I do all the = functions with my feet.=A0

    Depending on how = things are going onstage, I go back and forth between more or less = automation or foot-control.=A0

    All the = "looping" parts used to be done in my Electrix Repeaters. I did manage = to get SooperLooper to do it for this piece, but I'm having a hard time = getting SooperLooper to make the same length loop and play it back in = sync every time. Even automating the recording by firing a midi clip, it = can still be slightly off. To get around that annoyance for this song, I = "faked" the sync by having Live rhythmically fade out the SooperLooper = tracks and give emphasis on downbeats! That way, no matter what = SooperLooper was doing, I'd always have a pulse in the right place! = Kludgy.

    That's the last barrier for me now, how = to make SooperLooper reliably loop in = time.


    On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:41 = AM, Raul Bonell wrote:

    beatiful.
    great sense on = structure by your side.
    may you explain which was your set = up?
    several instances of sooperlooper inside ableton = live?
    are you using each instance for the different = sections,
    going mute on/off? ... please some notes for the = students here = :-)

    raul.

    = --Apple-Mail-3-606281854-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 19:23:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ADC73BF95; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004101c9048c$8b291df0$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> <8D07F71B-9E1B-48A3-9DB9-60D74DD379DF@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:23:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9049D.4E360730" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: smtp4.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: <4CIy4B.A.jh.xIxrIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:23:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9049D.4E360730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great work, Zoe ! I'm too interested in your technic, so i would ask how do you get midi = clips synched to the loop, to performs the desidered actions "in this or = in the next bar". Do you have a metronome in your earphones ?=20 Is it related to a track with a predefined duration so, some functions = (or sections of a song) are triggered by automations ?=20 Or you just have "a click" that tells you where the first beat (1-2-3-4) = so you decide where e when trigger your midi clips ? Ciao e grazie ! Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: info at zoekeating=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:00 PM Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation sure! Ableton Live and 3 instances of SooperLooper. The parts that I "sample" (i.e. record and then playback without = overdubs) I do inside Ableton Live. The parts that I "loop" (i.e. classic overdub, layering thing we all = love) I do inside SooperLooper. Certain sections of the song, I automate the recording and playback = using sequenced midi notes in Live. So Live plays a note and that note = triggers a function (like record, or mute, or overdub) either in Live or = SooperLooper. Certain sections I do all the functions with my feet.=20 Depending on how things are going onstage, I go back and forth between = more or less automation or foot-control.=20 All the "looping" parts used to be done in my Electrix Repeaters. I = did manage to get SooperLooper to do it for this piece, but I'm having a = hard time getting SooperLooper to make the same length loop and play it = back in sync every time. Even automating the recording by firing a midi = clip, it can still be slightly off. To get around that annoyance for = this song, I "faked" the sync by having Live rhythmically fade out the = SooperLooper tracks and give emphasis on downbeats! That way, no matter = what SooperLooper was doing, I'd always have a pulse in the right place! = Kludgy. That's the last barrier for me now, how to make SooperLooper reliably = loop in time. On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: beatiful. great sense on structure by your side. may you explain which was your set up? several instances of sooperlooper inside ableton live? are you using each instance for the different sections, going mute on/off? ... please some notes for the students here :-) raul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1627 - Release Date: = 22/08/2008 6.48 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9049D.4E360730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Great work, Zoe = !
    I'm too interested in = your technic,=20 so i would ask how do you get midi clips synched to the loop, to=20 performs the desidered actions "in this or in the next = bar". Do=20 you have a metronome in your earphones  ?
    Is it related to a = track with=20 a predefined duration so, some functions (or sections of a = song) are=20 triggered by automations ?
    Or you just have "a = click" that=20 tells you where the first beat (1-2-3-4) so you decide = where e=20 when trigger your midi clips ?
     
    Ciao e grazie = !
    Fabio
    www.eterogeneo.com
    www.myspace.com/eterogeneo=
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 info at=20 zoekeating
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 = 9:00=20 PM
    Subject: Re: yesterday's = performance with=20 responsive video animation

    sure!

    Ableton Live and 3 instances of SooperLooper.

    The parts that I "sample" (i.e. record and then playback without=20 overdubs) I do inside Ableton Live.
    The parts that I "loop" (i.e. classic overdub, layering thing we = all=20 love) I do inside SooperLooper.

    Certain sections of the song, I automate the recording and = playback using=20 sequenced midi notes in Live. So Live plays a note and that note = triggers a=20 function (like record, or mute, or overdub) either in Live or=20 SooperLooper.

    Certain sections I do all the functions with my feet. 

    Depending on how things are going onstage, I go back and forth = between=20 more or less automation or foot-control. 

    All the "looping" parts used to be done in my Electrix Repeaters. = I did=20 manage to get SooperLooper to do it for this piece, but I'm having a = hard time=20 getting SooperLooper to make the same length loop and play it back in = sync=20 every time. Even automating the recording by firing a midi clip, it = can still=20 be slightly off. To get around that annoyance for this song, I "faked" = the=20 sync by having Live rhythmically fade out the SooperLooper tracks and = give=20 emphasis on downbeats! That way, no matter what SooperLooper was = doing, I'd=20 always have a pulse in the right place! Kludgy.

    That's the last barrier for me now, how to make SooperLooper = reliably=20 loop in time.


    On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Raul Bonell wrote:
    beatiful.
    great sense on structure by your side.
    may you explain which was your set up?
    several instances of sooperlooper inside ableton live?
    are you using each instance for the different sections,
    going mute on/off? ... please some notes for the students here=20 :-)

    raul.

    No virus found in this incoming message.
    Checked by AVG.=20
    Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1627 - Release Date: = 22/08/2008=20 6.48
    ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9049D.4E360730-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 20:45:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8553A3BF97; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 332 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:45:27 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=jALLNMjAH6iop8YiXsNubqd/y8djsVOo8ayNEvkBLnA=; b=f/gt51IJuHw1L4fH5igdt1dJmE+GBHHNIR+6bVyspv2Uo12Xhl8ahMFTKoseJkzChA sc0QIHDX4DKpyDRs3SoEB7hB9G1tJD4fM6qbuahd/Gfzxw9ht0k5BEuxBe8TJAXcgSpv tPRTodl0nt11X0vRDk893dml6jbor5o40M7O0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=awllOKWQnZqAFJHxdRssm1nxzglLyHCR+Z8ByOElRslqyiJr8u3wh6nhtzWSdnw+vl /RJYccWsVnIiwTlkLcKNJog9BxEsJGb82WwakLZMkY4y1763FWeKfide2nO8OmveXO1Y H8+6D2F8bZMfC+AlLgbPPMapQfEiHbzi6XnRI= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:39:54 -0400 From: "Jesse Chappell" Sender: essejlc@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> <8D07F71B-9E1B-48A3-9DB9-60D74DD379DF@zerocrossing.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 82b0c0836d651925 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:45:27 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:00 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > All the "looping" parts used to be done in my Electrix Repeaters. I did > manage to get SooperLooper to do it for this piece, but I'm having a hard > time getting SooperLooper to make the same length loop and play it back in > sync every time. Even automating the recording by firing a midi clip, it can > still be slightly off. To get around that annoyance for this song, I "faked" > the sync by having Live rhythmically fade out the SooperLooper tracks and > give emphasis on downbeats! That way, no matter what SooperLooper was doing, > I'd always have a pulse in the right place! Kludgy. > That's the last barrier for me now, how to make SooperLooper reliably loop > in time. Do you still have "play sync" turned on? If so, try turning it off. Even better, send me your Live set so I can see what your settings really are nowadays. jlc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 20:54:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6BE83BF9A; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aCkkL1vs66gA:10 a=Dt3pyMjzG3gA:10 a=qEpcx0kGKOcq_jX0F4MA:9 a=0ZDTkA8831z-CJBa3rSlfsz0VhsA:4 a=NVHxADLwyewA:10 a=WB9azuIV8zIA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> <8D07F71B-9E1B-48A3-9DB9-60D74DD379DF@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:54:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:54:24 +0000 (UTC) you see...this one of the reasons i'm sticking with SL. cause jesse actually exists and answers questions. although i fear i'm going to burn him out with my demands. On Aug 22, 2008, at 1:39 PM, Jesse Chappell wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:00 PM, info at zoekeating > wrote: > >> All the "looping" parts used to be done in my Electrix Repeaters. >> I did >> manage to get SooperLooper to do it for this piece, but I'm having >> a hard >> time getting SooperLooper to make the same length loop and play it >> back in >> sync every time. Even automating the recording by firing a midi >> clip, it can >> still be slightly off. To get around that annoyance for this song, >> I "faked" >> the sync by having Live rhythmically fade out the SooperLooper >> tracks and >> give emphasis on downbeats! That way, no matter what SooperLooper >> was doing, >> I'd always have a pulse in the right place! Kludgy. >> That's the last barrier for me now, how to make SooperLooper >> reliably loop >> in time. > > Do you still have "play sync" turned on? If so, try turning it off. > Even better, send me your Live set so I can see what your settings > really are nowadays. > > jlc > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 20:57:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88FFD3BEBE; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Txz0+bRwVYNYwdMNXmXp1XHHsT0YyooGwowrNqsRK+4=; b=LDFrMhiyt7wmzedBewPvys8FIAwd2FRFGCI3bMi7Ck4CL4vRHneK0F7eOAEYOexodV Q0fmwElMvTusAgDPvp3ch0cgx1ntXJ4taARRsHZ83klNeF/4dFBHiHCsBBp55REEFAa5 8DAWB27PVj3sCl7mYsF0nDZGY5Y/LlqpsaSgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FTbaz5NFxWKUtNnitF/pE4V8riNu6yDjg4Q/hHVtVW/UVP7Osi6pooG7xw2ULryeGL zhra2G+S22toLrWhqvYIU6PtszfUqGOT7bPLmv20oowKvJ9ZMZtN5wGnpZZRqiJ0coeS th1kKk3PYWUNGcF1mBhhxhTNHdsk7ndNnfhSY= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:57:57 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_61647_26654244.1219438677539" References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> <8D07F71B-9E1B-48A3-9DB9-60D74DD379DF@zerocrossing.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:57:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_61647_26654244.1219438677539 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Spoken like an experienced Repeater user.... On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:54 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > you see...this one of the reasons i'm sticking with SL. cause jesse > actually exists and answers questions. > > ------=_Part_61647_26654244.1219438677539 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Spoken like an experienced Repeater user....

    On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:54 PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
    you see...this one of the reasons i'm sticking with SL. cause jesse actually exists and answers questions.


    ------=_Part_61647_26654244.1219438677539-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 21:36:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 888E33BF92; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=No5EcEP4AAAA:8 a=d3s395feAAAA:8 a=CiHzGIaeKzdG9FitwuEA:9 a=kTRlmu_NSXCGukVnK4xZ-ryy7f4A:4 a=v6MMM96S_sUA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=R7I29kgE4KwCtv6xOTG-8IL6F-0A:4 a=mEwkxK14XeoA:10 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:36:33 -0700 From: DAVID BROWN Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 #602 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--e31b8fbe602d9461811f4 Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal References: <20080821165250.100563BF69@arsenic.violacea.com> <48AE0807.4010300@waste.org> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:36:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----e31b8fbe602d9461811f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry about that Charles=2E My main issue with the Memory Man is that th= is is a pedal I don=27t want to have to place on the floor=2E There are = too many controls I need to be able to adjust in real time=2E EH should = have included an input jack so that you could use an external foot switc= h to turn the looping on and off=2E I=27m sure it wouldn=27t be hard to = do this but=2C it would void the warranty=2E Although intended as a stom= p box it seems an obvious addition for EH to have included=2E The Memory= Man with Hazarai=A0 audio quality is excellent=2C definitely better tha= n my Electrix Repeator or Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro=2E EH have certa= inly improved their quality over the years=2E =A0 David = ----- Original Message ----- From=3A Charles Zwicky =3Ccazwicky=40earthlink=2Enet=3E Date=3A Friday=2C August 22=2C 2008 11=3A11 am Subject=3A Re=3A Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 =23602 To=3A Loopers-Delight=40loopers-delight=2Ecom =3E I was simply encouraging Todd to write one=2E=2E=2E=2E (see text bel= ow)=2E =3E = =3E =3EHi Charles=2C If you intend to write a review you=A0 may want = =3E to be = =3E =3Eaware of David Lambkins thoughtful comparison between the EH = =3E Memory = =3E =3EMan with Hazarai and the Eventide Timefactor =2E His comments = =3E =3Epersuaded me to buy the Memory Man which I haven=27t regretted=2E= = =3E =3Ehttp=3A//psg=2Ecom/=7Edlamkins/lamkins-guitar/music/article/smmh-= vs- =3E timefactor=3E =3E =3EDavid Brown =3E =3E =3E =3E----- Original Message ----- =3E =3EFrom=3A Charles Zwicky =3Ccazwicky=40earthlink=2Enet=3E =3E =3EDate=3A Thursday=2C August 21=2C 2008 10=3A05 pm =3E =3ESubject=3A Re=3A Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 =23602 =3E =3ETo=3A Loopers-Delight=40loopers-delight=2Ecom =3E =3E =3E =3E=3E =3E =3E=3E=A0 Yes=2C Please! =3E =3E=3E =3E =3E=3E =3E =3E=3E=A0 =3EAh=2C speaking of the EH 2880 I could also do a review = =3E of the EH =3E =3E=3E=A0 =3EStereo Memory Man with Hazarai=2E =3E =3E=3E=A0 =3E =3E =3E=3E=A0 =3EI=27ve used it for one live performance and numerous = =3E recordings=3E=3E=A0 and =3E =3E=3E=A0 =3Eall was well=2E =3E =3E=3E=A0 =3E =3E =3E=3E=A0 =3EAnyone interested=3F =3E =3E=3E=A0 =3E =3E =3E=3E=A0 =3E-Todd =3E =3E=3E =3E =3E=3E =3E =3E=3E=A0 -- =3E =3E=3E=A0 =2E=2E=2E =3E =3E=3E=A0 http=3A//www=2Ezmix=2Enet =3E =3E=3E =3E =3E=3E =3E = =3E = =3E -- = =3E =2E=2E=2E =3E http=3A//www=2Ezmix=2Enet =3E = =3E ----e31b8fbe602d9461811f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry about that Charles=2E My main issue with the Memory Man is that th= is is a pedal I don=27t want to have to place on the floor=2E There are = too many controls I need to be able to adjust in real time=2E EH should = have included an input jack so that you could use an external foot switc= h to turn the looping on and off=2E I=27m sure it wouldn=27t be hard to = do this but=2C it would void the warranty=2E Although intended as a stom= p box it seems an obvious addition for EH to have included=2E The Memory= Man with Hazarai=26nbsp=3B audio quality is excellent=2C definitely bet= ter than my Electrix Repeator or Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro=2E EH hav= e certainly improved their quality over the years=2E =26nbsp=3B David =3C= br=3E=3Cbr=3E----- Original Message -----=3Cbr=3EFrom=3A Charles Zwicky = =26lt=3Bcazwicky=40earthlink=2Enet=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3EDate=3A Friday=2C Augu= st 22=2C 2008 11=3A11 am=3Cbr=3ESubject=3A Re=3A Loopers-Delight-d Diges= t V08 =23602=3Cbr=3ETo=3A Loopers-Delight=40loopers-delight=2Ecom=3Cbr=3E= =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B I was simply encouraging Todd to write one=2E=2E=2E=2E = (see text below)=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3BHi Charles=2C= If you intend to write a review you=26nbsp=3B may want =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B= to be =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3Baware of David Lambkins thoughtful compa= rison between the EH =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B Memory =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3BMa= n with Hazarai and the Eventide Timefactor =2E His comments =3Cbr=3E=26g= t=3B =26gt=3Bpersuaded me to buy the Memory Man which I haven=27t regret= ted=2E =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3Bhttp=3A//psg=2Ecom/=7Edlamkins/lamkins-g= uitar/music/article/smmh-vs-=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B timefactor=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26= gt=3B =26gt=3BDavid Brown=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt= =3B----- Original Message -----=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3BFrom=3A Charles = Zwicky =26lt=3Bcazwicky=40earthlink=2Enet=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B= Date=3A Thursday=2C August 21=2C 2008 10=3A05 pm=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B= Subject=3A Re=3A Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 =23602=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26= gt=3BTo=3A Loopers-Delight=40loopers-delight=2Ecom=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt= =3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26= nbsp=3B Yes=2C Please!=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B = =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B =26gt=3BAh=2C= speaking of the EH 2880 I could also do a review =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B of th= e EH=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B =26gt=3BStereo Memory Ma= n with Hazarai=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B =26gt=3B=3C= br=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B =26gt=3BI=27ve used it for one = live performance and numerous =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B recordings=26gt=3B=26gt=3B= =26nbsp=3B and=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B =26gt=3Ball wa= s well=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B =26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26= gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B =26gt=3BAnyone interested=3F=3Cbr=3E=26= gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B =26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B= =26nbsp=3B =26gt=3B-Todd=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B= =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B --=3Cbr=3E=26= gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B =2E=2E=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt= =3B=26nbsp=3B http=3A//www=2Ezmix=2Enet=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B= =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr= =3E=26gt=3B -- =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =2E=2E=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B http=3A//www=2E= zmix=2Enet=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B ----e31b8fbe602d9461811f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 22 21:44:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E6293BF9E; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMulMm2rn Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: New Tunes Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:44:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: <6911F39F-19BC-4E05-BC9C-204E6965F4A7@arcor.de> Thread-Index: AckERRBUyq6yBdeiQqqO8rZWPVoB3QAWmTUQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:44:43 +0000 (UTC) =20 For those among you who do not know Andreas Willers or his work - go the fuck check him out! His performance at the Berlin Loopfest for me was = the highlight of the festival (and that with other artists on the level of = The Walker Bros., Fabio, Michael, Stefan,... on the bill). He's one of that superweird EDP mission commanders - one of those few people who do odd looping and at the same time play really beautiful songs - one of those = guys with a truly wonderful guitar tone - but let's just quote what my blog = at www.myspace.com/moinlabs has to say in the section "Moinsound World Tour Highlights": "1. Best Performer or Performance: Andreas Willers (Berlin Loopfest) Back when organizing the two gigs in M=FCnchen, I had already been in = contact with Andreas (whom I've never met before the Berlin event), and I = actually had wanted him to be part of the Pasinger Fabrik gig. His performance in Berlin showed me that my feeling was right: an outstanding (if very intense) performance of a guitarist who is not only clearly in command of his guitar and his electronics (another EDP user = btw), but also of the music he is creating. Andreas, I really hope we get a = chance to do some music together in the future! He can be found at www.andreaswillers.de" Thanks, Andreas, for doing what you do so well! Rainer ________________________________ after being offlist for quite some time (mainly due to a technical problem - I had trouble re-subscribing, not unsubscribing! Kim sorted it = out for me) I got back in touch after performing at the Berlin Loopfest. It = was a nice hang with the Loopergang, thanks to Leander for putting it = together! I have in the last year recorded over two hours of material for an upcoming solo release and put two songs up on my MySpace thing: www.myspace.com/andreaswillers From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 01:15:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93CE43BF9C; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009101c904bd$ce5951e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Looperlative review in the new Guitar Player magazine Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:15:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Bob Amstadt wrote about the Looperlative review in Guitar Player magazine: "As for Bill Walker, I also owe him a big thank you for helping to get this done. I can't say enough nice things about Bill and the time that he invested into helping." I , too, have to second this. Bill is so fantastic at getting in and really learning any instrument deeply when he takes it on. He has been my own personal mentor using this marvelous machine and I always look to him to lead the way in innovating with it. The fact that he's my brother just adds icing to the cake of gratitude that I have for learning from such a wonderful and inspiring musician. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 04:34:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0F563BF9F; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1196 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:34:00 UTC Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:16:18 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation In-reply-to: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:34:00 +0000 (UTC) At 9:15 PM -0700 8/21/08, info at zoekeating wrote: >so this is a video of what i did yesterday (without hardware!). unless you count the cello-:) >i performed with this incredible artist named Robert Hodgin. he does >music visualization, or generative art, and in this performance the >animation is responding, live, to my music. > >low res video doesn't really do it justice of course.... > >http://tinyurl.com/63g3tt > >this performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it again! Very nice work -- though the video would have come over a lot better if it had been limited to Robert's output. Let me know if you do a DVD. ... and if you ever play Boston and would like a visualist, keep me in mind. -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 04:34:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC7243BFA7; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3601 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:34:44 UTC Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:37:41 -0500 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: Looperlative review in the new Guitar Player magazine In-reply-to: <009101c904bd$ce5951e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 References: <009101c904bd$ce5951e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:34:44 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Bob Amstadt wrote about the Looperlative review in Guitar Player > magazine: What issue? Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 05:14:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1DFB3BF9B; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:10:47 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: yesterday's performance with responsive video animation In-reply-to: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <996B78E8-9832-45F5-94A8-900E5C0CF4BB@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:14:04 +0000 (UTC) At 9:15 PM -0700 8/21/08, info at zoekeating wrote: >so this is a video of what i did yesterday (without hardware!). unless you count the cello-;) Seriously, this was quite nice, though the video would have been better presented if it were limited to Robert's visualization. If you ever make a proper presentation in DVD format, I'd like to see it. If you ever play Boston and would like a visualist , please keep me in mind. >i performed with this incredible artist named Robert Hodgin. he does >music visualization, or generative art, and in this performance the >animation is responding, live, to my music. > >low res video doesn't really do it justice of course.... > >http://tinyurl.com/63g3tt > >this performance was a test...so hopefully we can do it again! -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 05:15:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C39353BFA5; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=sbgXAVLKZKktk4HNdv9WPIqw20Vn8OAycXgHJpI8ykk=; b=EB0+4RBOZdm8ifXFnDFKbx0zF6YWM6Zp/VB7ISttS5KyV/dhY9/ZR8lqiDbzZbpKIa GFsbLDA9g3e41J28/zp6QY1cy5DC1xCStOCKOuSZrY/NDex/O7+P+3raklA+lHLX1iAB +o2s2k9o+OZI+SbkkXf59TLiJ3Jy3bD5l8pUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=pDf3uIgChxmIDHsAhFCc/bGSbIazXHUbkiqzO2x7P3hsPzhBK72nAs2sjXTDvHzHU5 3fzWiLhaWzsfhOst6fcVXd5xbKb787iGHrx6x796ToIi0uIv89oazGB5njOoHpL5oV5N ztHbP0uazWOUMh734veOd+mrT13f9JZP3GA54= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:15:24 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative review in the new Guitar Player magazine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_64461_3287673.1219468524982" References: <009101c904bd$ce5951e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: <3cJlIB.A.WUG.tz5rIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:15:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_64461_3287673.1219468524982 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline October 2008--it's not on the newstands yet. Sonny Landreth is on the cover. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > Bob Amstadt wrote about the Looperlative review in Guitar Player magazine: >> > > What issue? > > Thanks. > > ------=_Part_64461_3287673.1219468524982 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    October 2008--it's not on the newstands yet.  Sonny Landreth is on the cover.

    On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:

    On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

    Bob Amstadt wrote about the Looperlative review in Guitar Player magazine:

    What issue?

    Thanks.


    ------=_Part_64461_3287673.1219468524982-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 05:27:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04D7F3BFA2; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:30:14 -0500 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: Looperlative review in the new Guitar Player magazine In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <009101c904bd$ce5951e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:27:35 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 23, 2008, at 12:15 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > October 2008--it's not on the newstands yet. Sonny Landreth is on > the cover. > I subscribe, so I may have it in my mailbox tomorrow. The last issue I received had Pat Metheny on the cover. I suppose that was September '08. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 08:11:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4B773BFA3; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3C71567F-623A-4D9D-9F5A-13F1FF77ED73@steve-lawson.co.uk> From: Steve Lawson To: Loop List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Looperlative review in Guitar Player... Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:10:56 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:11:05 +0000 (UTC) I can't WAIT to read the review - this is so cool. congrats Bob. It's much deserved - the LP1 is such an integral part of my music making these days, I can't really imagine what I'd do without it. :) :) Steve Where to find me on the web - _______________________ ********************************* ***www.qik.com/solobasssteve - loads of video there this weekend from Greenbelt festival! *** www.stevelawson.net - shiny new site *** www.stevelawson.net/blog - blog *** www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson *** www.reverbnation.com/stevelawson *** www.twitter.com/solobasssteve *** http://www.youtube.com/user/StevieSteve46 - loads of new video here! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 08:36:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C698F3BFAD; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=gbhjIz+K383qQ41yrc9ciYIXhxeZqAFZRKXjDyycfdTbrgJnwT1LJW8KacxU6MVLMfTqBe9NFglKzcF9Z/xxgUZ04XflfH6j8hxBDcUNoL6wwKxvAgMADKrzJwg3jLuPIOuB3ZO3coUn1lkBoa+pTKJCNSBn6dIi7QvvHMtCdUc=; X-YMail-OSG: ubWPOv4VM1mwLV_HZB6AVAEd1j9LebBCUaKIRa2JyySUoUuwFyEZ08fbh7Ax2X8KYHi6mDAYN0TH7Hw8OInOowNiN.mehv6u3Ix62u5dTBcZTQRgYZTRWnFo9s0I8WQ2_PIwOAwsjlxl7g.voTD3w0sx X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:36:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Looperlative review in the new Guitar Player magazine To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <009101c904bd$ce5951e0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <305695.2185.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Although i am a newbie with this box i am really excited about future looping with this new possiblities, Rick gave me a little LP1 demo at our konstanz loop festival and well...i just had to get one! he was really kind and made it possible for me to get one and i also thank Bob and Bill for taking the time to answer my initial frustating mails and sharing their expertise with it. Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Rick Walker wrote: > From: Rick Walker > Subject: Looperlative review in the new Guitar Player magazine > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 6:15 PM > Bob Amstadt wrote about the Looperlative review in Guitar > Player magazine: > > "As for Bill Walker, I also owe him a big thank you > for helping to get this > done. I can't say enough nice things about Bill and > the time that he > invested into helping." > > > I , too, have to second this. > > Bill is so fantastic at getting in and really learning any > instrument deeply > when he takes it on. > He has been my own personal mentor using this marvelous > machine and > I always look to him to lead the way in innovating with it. > > The fact that he's my brother just adds icing to the > cake of gratitude that > I have for learning from such a > wonderful and inspiring musician. > > Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 09:40:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D90A3BFAB; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=yV/Z5pv7p1L1AHH8OqkFhe0sT3tu8NSLGlXb3vwsV+JxLv1cnKzxhxLOgVh5KtVPBjnZJJYRRtXAnfGipfta5MJW+nkAd/h5MVd79oYzU3bEneINaMB34kc/hjRwgEn46mzBOB9QKRAg/76r/vLY4uB0rIpbcEOvmTBUxG+ZYtw=; X-YMail-OSG: eSSL7koVM1maBmZ.QoguYp_FJHUd7z06LnnDUKqP7z5rZk_ELCZqYUFA0gnT6Ao0QkjUDUMUBbIhQ.D0OTI3XkC8LgcAQrpT6bz0FIMVZ_vWbz_.WVv97tPTjJdq314- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:40:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Musica Optica 2007 To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <142963.44997.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, Our experimental performance of "musica Optica" last year at the Radolfzell residenz Kino is now in youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr3DEspTEDY Spontaneous Improvisations to images and pictures Rainer Dost -acoustic guitar,vox,percussion Luis Angulo-Electric Guitar,synths,drum machine,harmonica,vox Volker Wagner- Sax cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 10:00:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F26C3BFA9; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=fXg853pLwPK5wso8z4VWADIHzUIWJFgFyN2c+NbXkyc=; b=hTVxS4kEfrwb82nCgvdJpv+GuNB5Uvtks3+4EexT0S/v2T/EGCzqsK+gyIdZSKfV+m YOrpVUftfWuRW+Ikam/U+xef5aTapcMmdKiP2JjD/5PapV3+6Cj3mlY97oUVdAetyxg7 zaQ5yXhZMJdwPQwyJw+aUUJtaDmdnYA/X+VHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=UOed10mz7gtIBOfNLzzifz5Vz0PJNQ0Tyfokfn7gGVt8w9tKi2344yZRh54vUJ/FCH SL4Xbd7s+Xj7ZDDQ7zbP23Z9sWf7vpzRGpb7EHnXAWxHL3w10YEn39OR+P2YCwwGh+Wh W3VRG4NnSbh+oIrKRRq210kuxRwsPuXyumntI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808230300w62692418u2f0ae93365a82d11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:00:56 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 In-Reply-To: <142963.44997.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <142963.44997.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:00:57 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:40 AM, L.A. Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > Our experimental performance of "musica Optica" last year at the Radolfzell residenz Kino is now in youtube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr3DEspTEDY > > Spontaneous Improvisations to images and pictures > > Rainer Dost -acoustic guitar,vox,percussion > Luis Angulo-Electric Guitar,synths,drum machine,harmonica,vox > Volker Wagner- Sax > > cheers > Luis Seems to have been a great performance! Good thing this video documentation fades in and out to give a little bit of everything. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 10:21:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 541C33BFAF; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=HUBmzOe9AfEXSBrtSNQ5/yZgwZEqeIEfRAIISPvqQI8=; b=Y6cz3cMeGLUAGCpYcEDSMpI+4xtiYJzUccRZI/cwyLbSQdCyOGUoV1udFyh3IsJAV/ oxZTlcK+v6/x3QbFy9XGo0msrdNhTiQ0o0n9R9Gj8KOPpeqteVU6/ScmzocToOTLUi74 aPrvQ5IQrVn817N6kgrZUxU6dtGz+M98a/rKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DB6+WDF7UyNRKxo8eLiXIJBVc345MmWGIXF8CQQv+BWCX9bS3LblBmS6ii80bgwyd7 b3divbK2uEBc7+V+Zxs0nB299euEDzHwM9USzbwprfdpA67/Zda6k5bWRP2n+DDcxmom Y78qg5/MPusJw7QW1LZE+YTQIIjOH4/0JZ2Pk= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808230321j10606c00k959791cb8412b046@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:21:08 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Audio Cookbook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi loopers, I stumbled over this in my opinion highly interesting and useful web blogg on sound design and thought it might as well interest some members of this list: http://audiocookbook.org/ -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 12:53:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B3543BFB4; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48B00837.4070507@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:53:11 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DOES YOUR TOURING RIG DIFFER FROM YOUR HOME RIG? References: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <010901c90126$8c6d2d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > WHAT'S YOUR TOURING RIG LIKE and how does it differ > from your AT HOME RIG? No difference in general, though I might not take all faderboxes I have to some places. And the audio interface could be different. Though at the moment I only have my quatafire, I wouldn't mind to have a high end (bigger) interface at home. A little Mixer is handy at home as well, but not required on stage (for me...) I usually have at least one Tibetan bowl with me, at home I have more of them including really huge ones. But to a local concert I might bring them as well, depending on the event... Speakers have to be at the venue, I can't carry them anyway... But the core of my instrument is a small (12") Powerbook. I'll look forward to see the new Korg nano controllers, that would minimize my "rig" even further. First requirement is to be able to hitch-hike with my instrument (I can't keep up with announcements of raising prices for whatever transportation is suitable normally... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 17:54:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 532DB3BFB3; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: looperlative in GP. Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:54:28 -0700 Message-ID: <002401c90549$4d2fcea0$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C9050E.A0D0F6A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckFSUno/g+YMdb5T3i+U58PIhAMTg== Resent-Message-ID: <8K_YyD.A.kdE.b7EsIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:54:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C9050E.A0D0F6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am so happy that the review of the LP-1 is coming out. I can't wait to read the New GP, and with Sonny Landreth on the cover???? I'll be a pig in shit! Thanks for the props Bob and Rick, and thanks for bringing me on board in the early stages. Also, I want to give huge shout out of gratitude (gee I sound like I'm hosting the MTV awards), to Barry Cleveland , who as Ed surmised is the resident loop nut at GP, for taking the time to really delve deeper into Looperlative. Barry is a guy who really gets it, and is a fine guitarist and looper in his own right, not to mention an interesting person with a droll sense of humor and a quiver of great guitar player related stories. It was a pleasure hanging out with him. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C9050E.A0D0F6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    I am so happy that the review of the LP-1 is coming = out. I can’t wait to read the New GP, and with Sonny Landreth on the cover???? = I’ll be a pig in shit! Thanks for the props Bob and Rick, and thanks for = bringing me on board in the early stages. Also, I want to give huge shout out of = gratitude (gee I sound like I’m hosting the MTV awards),  to Barry = Cleveland , who as Ed surmised is the resident loop nut at GP, for taking the time = to really delve deeper into Looperlative. Barry is a guy who really gets = it, and is a fine guitarist and looper in his own right, not to mention an = interesting person with a droll sense of humor and a quiver of great guitar player related = stories. It was a pleasure hanging out with him.

    Bill

    ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C9050E.A0D0F6A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 23 18:02:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE6253BFB0; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: welcome back Andrea Willers Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:02:34 -0700 Message-ID: <002901c9054a$6eab5210$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9050F.C24C7A10" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckFSmuK2JaNmEddQJekj9D9NHpjdA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:02:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9050F.C24C7A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I second what Rainer said about you Andreas , You played great at the Fest and also the next night with your Hendrix deconstructions. I really enjoyed hearing you and hanging out with you, and talking guitar language. Any body who digs bumble bee capacitors is a groovy dude in my book. BTW I feel the same way about your 335 as you did about my AC10 twin. I want you to sell it to me really cheaply :-) I'll check out your new music. Thanks Bill ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C9050F.C24C7A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    I second what Rainer said about you Andreas , =  You played great at the Fest and also the next night with your Hendrix = deconstructions. I really enjoyed hearing you and hanging out with you, and talking guitar language. Any body who digs bumble bee capacitors is a groovy dude in my = book. BTW I feel the same way about your 335 as you did about my AC10 twin. I = want you to sell it to me really cheaply J

     I’ll check out your new = music.

     Thanks

     Bill

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    --0-180269061-1219519691=:95679-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 02:27:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9562A3BFB2; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2073 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:27:40 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.9 X-EN-IMPSID: 61t61a0020BkWne0000000 Message-ID: <48B0BEFE.8070003@aromabar.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:53:02 -0400 From: blixton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: wtb: casio pg-380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 8fa5b2a164f06463fef95856b46475b8:b28e276ab15476efec7f989e64d1d602 X-EN-AuthUser: blixton Sender: blixton X-EN-OrigIP: 207.255.191.111 X-EN-OrigHost: 207-255-191-111-dhcp.gsv.md.atlanticbb.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm looking for a casio pg-380 midi guitar. If anyone has a spare. Thanks Frank From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 05:46:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D32F3BFB6; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 05:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:46:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <0nkk0B.A.WbC.QXPsIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 05:46:56 +0000 (UTC) I'm so fascinated by taking unusual wave forms and slicing them into grooving patterns that I ordered the new BOSS SL-20 Audio Pattern Processor pedals before they had even been released. I've been very busy lately so it came a week ago and tonight I finally sat down with it. What major fun! This pedal will generate different rhythmic slicing patters from any input (and some slice patterns will just sound great with only the noise of a guitar inputted). I don't know it well yet, but there are several salient features (Including a simple onboard looping function_!_) that I thought you all might want to read about it. The pedal boasts 50 different rhyhtmic approaches but I haven't been able to get through more than 3 or 4 in the last hour and a half because they sound so good. The pedal can also be used in latch or momentary mode which is fantastic for jamming with yourself (especially if you are running , as I was tonight, through a digital delay). It has an onboard tap button and a cool lit metronone light that shoes a red flashing light on the downbeat of the rhythmic pulse and three green lights on the down beat (wouldn't if be cool if loopers came equipped with such a cool tool?) No only are there multiple rhythmic patterns , including some cool ones that generate harmonics and form very musical rhythmic patterns and some ones with evolving filters, but you can control the envelope of the pulses width, and attack and decay times. There are no progammable rhythmic patterns which could be cool and the machine is set to 4/4 with 16th notes for the most part (I did find one triplet shuffle feel as well and there may be more amongst the 40 or so rhythms I have experienced yet, but I'd be nitpicking to say that this bugged me. Essentially, with a simple fretless guitar (I just had my frets on my hideous pink strat removed today) and playing really simple single and double note melodies and chords, I was able to generate interesting grooves that would fit anywhere in electronica. This thing is just a dance composing machine as the simplest kinds of ideas can generate a lot to work off of and the sounds are great. I especially loved using harmonics and bar harmonics with the combination of the fretless and floyd roses whammy bar that's on this guitar With the looper included, you can hold down the on/off button for the rhythmic slices for 2 seconds as you play and then, the next time you hit the button, it will record a fairly long loop that seems to be automatically synchonized to the rhythm pattern (you have midi control too, though I did not play with that tonight)when you truncate the loop with another press of the on/off button. The next time you turn off the effect, it immediately erases the loop so it's great for improvising and playing with the grooves going and not going. I wouldn't use it as my only looper but the ability to loop something is awesome for me as a multi-instrumentalis. Several times I broke my neighborhoods sound curfew because I got a loop going that made me leap onto my drum set to groove with it. It is effective enough that it replaces the need for arpeggiated or sequenced synth lines that are so often associated with electronic music. I could concieve of myself hitting the stage with this, a guitar, bass, drumset and microkorg synth and playing a really covincing set of dance music for a party I'll write more as I know more about it, but I'm very, very happy I got it. Check it out if you get a chance. Rick Walker ps it also has cool stereo modes though I did not use them tonight pps it also an expression pedal to control several functions which I also haven't tried out yet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 10:30:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0277E3BFB8; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zvY/QD7Eq8v1ha2wL4EY9QdBazPhWlvHldKOyykTGm4=; b=GeQ8qKqNzLa1JFXUtnAtAqXMuv5jRSLjA/6IRwKgwXpRXffwheykLle8ZJf2AbgoXF W1GXLeDDMxeFxyk7JbD8AGeCujGYOxLpx3SkiiXJi4mJhysvWZK5yKhE0zytxU7Iyr4p ZkWU6ABSfJuOf+jRpzrEdWa/iR2byD4KwlMak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=k4B6C2iNUKTgm/Vfv+GYrRHVeOfxGM67qC0BY61peXN3Fp2JYabaq9f1fGTxZSNmXY 8l2FsoZNFXbPXoBP/aRkmqJE5fW+CV6BrFCiIwhr+gL/vSKTkEGRnqJdQziBfT2Z/NlH bnCK+qkOA4PaWYlR5mEM8nxsfVxIM60vl9MYE= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:30:51 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal In-Reply-To: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_55876_23314717.1219573851112" References: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: <1_imvB.A.RyH.dhTsIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:30:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_55876_23314717.1219573851112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks for the review rick. i've been jonesing for one of these too...i love being able to take ambient loops and turn them into rhythmic ones and i think this would be a great tool for that. please let us know more as you get more familiar with it! sim On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm so fascinated by taking unusual wave forms > and slicing them into grooving patterns that > I ordered the new BOSS SL-20 Audio Pattern Processor > pedals before they had even been released. > > I've been very busy lately so it came a week ago and > tonight I finally sat down with it. > > What major fun! > ------=_Part_55876_23314717.1219573851112 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    thanks for the review rick. i've been jonesing for one of these too...i love being able to take ambient loops and turn them into rhythmic ones and i think this would be a great tool for that. please let us know more as you get more familiar with it!

    sim

    On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
    I'm so fascinated by taking unusual wave forms
    and slicing them into grooving patterns that
    I ordered the new BOSS SL-20 Audio Pattern Processor
    pedals before they had even been released.

    I've been very busy lately so it came a week ago and
    tonight I finally sat down with it.

    What major fun!

    ------=_Part_55876_23314717.1219573851112-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 10:31:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25E863BFBD; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <51405DC6-1C34-45E3-92AB-D0FD194B2B0A@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:31:28 -0400 References: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:31:57 +0000 (UTC) thanks Rick... do you think it will respond to incoming midi clock? Teddy K http://teddyjam.com On Aug 24, 2008, at 1:46 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm so fascinated by taking unusual wave forms > and slicing them into grooving patterns that > I ordered the new BOSS SL-20 Audio Pattern Processor > pedals before they had even been released. > > I've been very busy lately so it came a week ago and > tonight I finally sat down with it. > > What major fun! > > > This pedal will generate different rhythmic slicing patters from > any input (and some slice patterns will just sound great with only > the noise of a guitar inputted). > > I don't know it well yet, but there are several salient features > (Including a simple onboard looping function_!_) that I thought you > all might want to read about it. > > The pedal boasts 50 different rhyhtmic approaches but I haven't been > able to get through more than 3 or 4 in the last hour and a half > because they sound so good. > > The pedal can also be used in latch or momentary mode which is > fantastic for > jamming with yourself (especially if you are running , as I was > tonight, through > a digital delay). > > It has an onboard tap button and a cool lit metronone light that shoes > a red flashing light on the downbeat of the rhythmic pulse and three > green lights > on the down beat (wouldn't if be cool if loopers came equipped with > such a cool tool?) > > No only are there multiple rhythmic patterns , including some cool > ones that generate harmonics > and form very musical rhythmic patterns and some ones with evolving > filters, but > you can control the envelope of the pulses width, and attack and > decay times. > > There are no progammable rhythmic patterns which could be cool and > the machine is > set to 4/4 with 16th notes for the most part (I did find one triplet > shuffle feel as well > and there may be more amongst the 40 or so rhythms I have > experienced yet, > but I'd be nitpicking to say that this bugged me. > > Essentially, with a simple fretless guitar (I just had my frets on > my hideous pink strat > removed today) and playing really simple single and double note > melodies and chords, I was > able to generate interesting grooves that would fit anywhere in > electronica. > > This thing is just a dance composing machine as the simplest kinds > of ideas can generate a lot to work > off of and the sounds are great. > > I especially loved using harmonics and bar harmonics with the > combination of the fretless and > floyd roses whammy bar that's on this guitar > > > With the looper included, you can hold down the on/off button for > the rhythmic slices for 2 seconds as you play > and then, the next time you hit the button, it will record a fairly > long loop that seems to be automatically > synchonized to the rhythm pattern (you have midi control too, > though I did not play with that tonight)when you > truncate the loop with another press of the on/off button. > > The next time you turn off the effect, it immediately erases the > loop so it's great for improvising and > playing with the grooves going and not going. > > I wouldn't use it as my only looper but the ability to loop > something is awesome for me as a multi-instrumentalis. > Several times I broke my neighborhoods sound curfew because I got a > loop going that made me leap onto my drum set > to groove with it. > > It is effective enough that it replaces the need for arpeggiated or > sequenced synth lines that are so often associated with > electronic music. I could concieve of myself hitting the stage > with this, a guitar, bass, drumset and microkorg > synth and playing a really covincing set of dance music for a party > > I'll write more as I know more about it, but I'm very, very happy I > got it. > > Check it out if you get a chance. > > Rick Walker > > ps it also has cool stereo modes though I did not use them tonight > pps it also an expression pedal to control several functions which > I also haven't tried out yet. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 10:38:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C12D3BFC1; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=eRS8N8yTq0DV5CACJnHOYwtXRkiMy/54HfEqid8G6pg=; b=tGX2kCc/o8tg+cHNZhw7yM2cIvWjZ+1llM2iCJJmePD0hgNXwFGab65wEBECyFUGOY NoLIgAWeEU+KLf8ZeshBuKJtv944locpfkHDXDrNqw+B/yznfdoHJJwSIR8DJhSqKfHS /c9T0ZwOYW1W7fBX9/cSE3lwJJbkCEU8Cx88w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=fQ1r0CRiiCH1hKBC1MQLrpQLF/oTshPGfXIsaim97EU6fbFJZi6fCjwGJl5WuLPMgs r74qagdRKSJ3ZDvo8b1PJgNoA4Wwl/niGBX9Q1DsjDkAVrRqXg41tkl1Wp9huvN2KmSV I4AGszWTj3menVddS1su6WO4hRYf83ZWULB90= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:38:42 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal In-Reply-To: <51405DC6-1C34-45E3-92AB-D0FD194B2B0A@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_55925_4306131.1219574322602" References: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <51405DC6-1C34-45E3-92AB-D0FD194B2B0A@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:38:44 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_55925_4306131.1219574322602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline yes, it does. you can watch a video here - http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=959 sim On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > thanks Rick... > > do you think it will respond to incoming midi clock? > > Teddy K > http://teddyjam.com > > ------=_Part_55925_4306131.1219574322602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    yes, it does.

    you can watch a video here - http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=959

    sim

    On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Teddy Kumpel <teddybut@mac.com> wrote:
    thanks Rick...

    do you think it will respond to incoming midi clock?

    Teddy K
    http://teddyjam.com

    ------=_Part_55925_4306131.1219574322602-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 11:30:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7688D3BFB9; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MqrSCkm4qRkA:10 a=Rs0fPlBofT0A:10 a=fxAJeLv5AAAA:8 a=WcyoBHRqAAAA:8 a=_mcbG6r5Sgel0tO5zVoA:9 a=vLfm01ljY4y8n3IrxJkA:7 a=E5jbi3-YD2Qeaghcog2oZf_dkwAA:4 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=1IxRCR_3GmotUiGP2WQA:9 a=9dfN1zb-3m_4MWgxmKsA:7 a=Wxryn4Mtms3AiyItNz-QAkAIAn4A:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <51405DC6-1C34-45E3-92AB-D0FD194B2B0A@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-752035297 Message-Id: <26D10512-BE7C-4776-A848-B297A6FE100C@comcast.net> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:30:03 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:30:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-752035297 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I have been tempted. But it seems like it has such a distinctive sound. I can just imagine "that sound" permeating music for the next 6 months then disappearing. Much like the Adrenilinn did. On Aug 24, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > yes, it does. > > you can watch a video here - http://www.bossus.com/gear/ > productdetails.php?ProductId=959 > > sim > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Teddy Kumpel > wrote: > thanks Rick... > > do you think it will respond to incoming midi clock? > > Teddy K > http://teddyjam.com > --Apple-Mail-1-752035297 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have been tempted. But it seems like it has such a distinctive sound. = =A0I can just imagine "that sound" permeating music for the next 6 = months then disappearing. Much like the Adrenilinn did.=A0
    On= Aug 24, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

    yes, it does.

    you can watch a video here = -=A0htt= p://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D959
    sim

    On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 = at 11:31 AM, Teddy Kumpel <teddybut@mac.com> = wrote:
    thanks Rick...
    =
    do you think it will respond to incoming midi clock?

    Teddy = K
    http://teddyjam.com
    =

    = --Apple-Mail-1-752035297-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 11:39:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE43D3BFBF; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=dYX4pqu2MrD60kJYzy3eKzs8rXHd4LTl9vQHehp5G3A=; b=Z0A7NuD7OIG438VIOvrQsgjQQqQ+kw5SF+2uJazyuBzIT6jgCGpS11z9JRuLEtxS0Z M00BhSz7CucCtecblaLy374x7WU+aOzAIm+ByKsqxdsCzlrCNa+QJ3fwJCoBb3cxWbfO +4rNRZI0b7W00bqeyWTu1Cw+vXFxUZZkwiBVI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=mRvg/TqQs7DA+hjwzD/dgcBJARY9rR7/GZhUBWgrlW5KIDbT7gFqXdHfZwW/PBlcZW 2asutXvY356dRlLr+DsVupSOn8jSOHaJ/faBZPASyErSPaWo9PxSmIUdWD1sqbUEp15z dCCjZZv7UcORNC8YTGFSZ3AHZ0eLZRQReHaqY= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:39:55 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal In-Reply-To: <26D10512-BE7C-4776-A848-B297A6FE100C@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_56069_13707122.1219577995590" References: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <51405DC6-1C34-45E3-92AB-D0FD194B2B0A@mac.com> <26D10512-BE7C-4776-A848-B297A6FE100C@comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:39:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_56069_13707122.1219577995590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline yeah, i know what you mean....i just wonder how quickly i would get bored of it too... On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > I have been tempted. But it seems like it has such a distinctive sound. I > can just imagine "that sound" permeating music for the next 6 months then > disappearing. Much like the Adrenilinn did. > > ------=_Part_56069_13707122.1219577995590 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    yeah, i know what you mean....i just wonder how quickly i would get bored of it too...

    On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Chris Sewell <midifriedchicken@comcast.net> wrote:
    I have been tempted. But it seems like it has such a distinctive sound.  I can just imagine "that sound" permeating music for the next 6 months then disappearing. Much like the Adrenilinn did. 

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Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:04:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C905D9.243C8D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really like the sound and concept. Maybe add some dancibility to my = droney self! Although 2min into the first video I was getting tired of = "that same ol thing" patch after patch. I wonder if it can be master or = slave? Awaiting further reviews. This list has a way of finding out how to take = effects beyond what they were meant to do....J Jeff=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Simeon Harris=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:39 AM Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal yeah, i know what you mean....i just wonder how quickly i would get = bored of it too... On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Chris Sewell = wrote: I have been tempted. But it seems like it has such a distinctive = sound. I can just imagine "that sound" permeating music for the next 6 = months then disappearing. Much like the Adrenilinn did.=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1629 - Release Date: = 8/23/2008 1:16 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C905D9.243C8D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I really like the sound and concept. = Maybe add some=20 dancibility to my droney self! Although 2min into the first video I was = getting=20 tired of  "that same ol thing" patch after patch. I wonder if it = can be=20 master or slave?
    Awaiting further reviews. This list has = a way of=20 finding out how to take effects beyond what they were meant to = do....J
     
    Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Simeon Harris
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 = 7:39=20 AM
    Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS = SL-20=20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal

    yeah, i know what you mean....i just wonder how quickly = i would=20 get bored of it too...

    On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Chris = Sewell <midifriedchicken@comcast.net= >=20 wrote:
    I have been tempted. But it = seems like it=20 has such a distinctive sound.  I can just imagine "that sound"=20 permeating music for the next 6 months then disappearing. Much like = the=20 Adrenilinn did. 

    No virus =
found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20
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8/23/2008 1:16 PM
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Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal I really like the sound and concept. Maybe add some dancibility to my = droney self! Although 2min into the first video I was getting tired of = "that same ol thing" patch after patch. I wonder if it can be master or = slave? Awaiting further reviews. This list has a way of finding out how to = take effects beyond what they were meant to do....J Jeff=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Simeon Harris=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:39 AM Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal yeah, i know what you mean....i just wonder how quickly i would get = bored of it too... On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Chris Sewell = wrote: I have been tempted. But it seems like it has such a distinctive = sound. I can just imagine "that sound" permeating music for the next 6 = months then disappearing. Much like the Adrenilinn did.=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1629 - Release Date: = 8/23/2008 1:16 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1629 - Release Date: = 8/23/2008 1:16 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C905EE.97804110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I see that it has only midi in, I = wonder if I could=20 control it via my 2880 while feeding audio into the 2880 from=20 it.
     
    2880 midi out------>SL-20 midi in, = SL-20 audio=20 out------->2880 audio in, hmmm, might be laws against it in this = state,=20 better check first......
     
    Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Jeff=20 Duke
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    Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 = 11:04=20 AM
    Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS = SL-20=20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal

    I really like the sound and concept. = Maybe add=20 some dancibility to my droney self! Although 2min into the first video = I was=20 getting tired of  "that same ol thing" patch after patch. I = wonder if it=20 can be master or slave?
    Awaiting further reviews. This list = has a way of=20 finding out how to take effects beyond what they were meant to = do....J
     
    Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Simeon Harris =
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 = 7:39=20 AM
    Subject: Re: mini review: = BOSS SL-20=20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal

    yeah, i know what you mean....i just wonder how = quickly i would=20 get bored of it too...

    On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Chris = Sewell <midifriedchicken@comcast.net= >=20 wrote:
    I have been tempted. But it = seems like=20 it has such a distinctive sound.  I can just imagine "that = sound"=20 permeating music for the next 6 months then disappearing. Much = like the=20 Adrenilinn did. 

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    ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C905EE.97804110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 17:40:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 936013BF96; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E45451D728D4561980C974A3AF28A74@WilliamsonPC> From: "Rick Williamson" To: References: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <51405DC6-1C34-45E3-92AB-D0FD194B2B0A@mac.com> <26D10512-BE7C-4776-A848-B297A6FE100C@comcast.net> <002a01c905fa$ad2b0390$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <002a01c905fa$ad2b0390$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:23:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:40:11 +0000 (UTC) >I wonder if it can be master or slave? It only has a MIDI in connection, so it's slave sync only. zZounds has the manual online here. http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/SL-20_e1-8aaab0f15d3b423b2dec9f1a4b790c77.pdf MIDI Implementation Version: 1.00 1. Receive Data ? System Real-Time Message ? Timing Clock Status F8H ? Start Status FAH * Upon receiving the Start (FAH), the slice pattern returns to the start of the pattern. ? Continue Status FBH * Upon receiving the Continue (FBH), the SL-20 continues to playback in sync with the external MIDI device. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 18:23:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1B3B3BF90; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1219602188; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=IkheHU0MzA/EHDElkI6YVvpAa4o=; b=SOVOW6g05Grfb+REAIbVSQIwuFw/lX56Ttw9alz8veql467TLstZlfC7w03yEOAi RxeHEr7S8KagHLgkBxsh/7oOGlHykUEB32GYSnOjpL2UQT47+/TSh+ygA3wN7Z6t; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MqrSCkm4qRkA:10 a=Rs0fPlBofT0A:10 a=xBBY21LMAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=bY922Ptw37TGW2_z32YA:9 a=vK2pydBECVODUt_A52gA:7 a=Ica85sYdgRBd7qF0dmvCn1MPF5cA:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=bc-At0-sGGwA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c90616$75342a90$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <51405DC6-1C34-45E3-92AB-D0FD194B2B0A@mac.com> <26D10512-BE7C-4776-A848-B297A6FE100C@comcast.net> <002a01c905fa$ad2b0390$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <4E45451D728D4561980C974A3AF28A74@WilliamsonPC> Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:23:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <2N47f.A.GjE.NcasIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:23:09 +0000 (UTC) thanks for that, as soon as I went to the site there was a pic of the lone midi in. I should look before wondering aloud. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Williamson" To: Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal > >I wonder if it can be master or slave? > It only has a MIDI in connection, so it's slave sync only. > > zZounds has the manual online here. > http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/SL-20_e1-8aaab0f15d3b423b2dec9f1a4b790c77.pdf > > MIDI Implementation Version: 1.00 > 1. Receive Data > ? System Real-Time Message > ? Timing Clock Status F8H > ? Start Status FAH > * Upon receiving the Start (FAH), the slice pattern > returns to the start of the pattern. > ? Continue Status FBH > * Upon receiving the Continue (FBH), the SL-20 > continues to playback in sync with the external > MIDI device. > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.7/1629 - Release Date: 8/23/2008 1:16 PM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 19:40:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B10193BF94; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [71.212.37.194] X-Originating-Email: [j.easley@msn.com] X-Sender: j.easley@msn.com From: "Joshua & Jennifer Easley" To: References: <003d01c905ac$d531bc10$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <51405DC6-1C34-45E3-92AB-D0FD194B2B0A@mac.com> <26D10512-BE7C-4776-A848-B297A6FE100C@comcast.net> Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:40:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C905E6.A07B9380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2008 19:40:47.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E113DD0:01C90621] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:40:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C905E6.A07B9380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yea, this is true of any specialized effect . . . But I imagine this pedal could have a useful place in someone's solo = rig, as a percussion generator . . . a guitar player, for example, = could loop the sound of this and use that as the rhythym basis of a song = for overdubbing . . . in which case it would have a more universal = function, i.e. avoid the boringness of straight repetition. . . Thanks Rick for the heads up. This thing is super cool! --Joshua ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Sewell=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:30 AM Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal I have been tempted. But it seems like it has such a distinctive = sound. I can just imagine "that sound" permeating music for the next 6 = months then disappearing. Much like the Adrenilinn did.=20 On Aug 24, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: yes, it does. you can watch a video here - = http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D959 sim On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Teddy Kumpel = wrote: thanks Rick... do you think it will respond to incoming midi clock? Teddy K http://teddyjam.com ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C905E6.A07B9380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Yea, this is true of any = specialized effect=20 . .
     
    But I imagine this pedal could have a useful = place=20 in someone's solo rig, as a percussion generator  . . . a = guitar=20 player, for example, could loop the sound of this and use that as = the=20 rhythym basis of a song for overdubbing . . . in which case it would = have a more=20 universal function, i.e. avoid the boringness of straight = repetition.=20 .
     
    Thanks Rick for the heads up. This thing is = super=20 cool!
     
    --Joshua
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Chris Sewell
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 = 4:30=20 AM
    Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS = SL-20=20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal

    I have been tempted. But it seems like it has such a=20 distinctive sound.  I can just imagine "that sound" permeating = music for=20 the next 6 months then disappearing. Much like the Adrenilinn = did. 
    On Aug 24, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
    yes, it does.

    you can watch a video here - ht= tp://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D959

    sim

    On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Teddy = Kumpel <teddybut@mac.com> = wrote:
    thanks=20 Rick...

    do you think it will respond to incoming midi=20 clock?

    Teddy K
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    ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C905E6.A07B9380-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 20:23:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AFE93BF90; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=KORniHfEWiBc2rNtfaeW8Wn9otMTlerwVCgLVZz9E5wFj2y6mxpPsMBbWJ7AoMRB; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <15134995.1219609433342.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:23:53 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48b65363912c40016be772aebac08a5e0dc9b5e52464f59f68350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.33 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:23:54 +0000 (UTC) ----Original Message----- >From: Joshua & Jennifer Easley >Sent: Aug 24, 2008 3:40 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal ... the boringness of straight repetition. . . Hey! i resemble that remark! s From stewart_barculo2411uk@yahoo.com.hk Sun Aug 24 21:27:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 880 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:27:08 UTC Received: from cornholio.gagarinclub.ru (cornholio.migtel.ru [80.240.208.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93033BF66; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sqmail.gcnet.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cornholio.gagarinclub.ru (8.13.1/8.12.11) with SMTP id m7OL655v056522; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:06:05 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from stewart_barculo2411uk@yahoo.com.hk) Received: from 81.199.62.47 (SquirrelMail authenticated user shtat) by webmail.gcnet.ru with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:06:23 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <2013.81.199.62.47.1219611983.squirrel@webmail.gcnet.ru> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:06:23 +0400 (MSD) Subject: REPLY IMMEDIATELY. From: "MR STEWART BARCULO" Reply-To: stewart_barculo1021uk@yahoo.com.hk User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Standard Life Bank, 30 Lothian Road, Edinburgh EH1 2DH Email:stewart_barculo1012uk@yahoo.com.hk Goodday, I am Stewart Barculo, Staff 0f Standard Life Bank Limited.I am contacting you concerning a deceased customer and an investment he placed under our banks management three years ago.I would respectfully request that you keep the contents of this mail confidential and respect the integrity of the information you come by as a result of this mail. I contacted you independently of our investigation and no one is informed of this communication. I would like to intimate you with certain facts that I believe would be of interest to you.In 2000, the subject matter; came to our bank to engage in business iscussions with our private banking division. He informed us that he had a financial portfolio of Fifty million united states dollars,which he wished to have us turn over (invest) on his behalf.I was the officer assigned to his case, I made numerous suggestions in line with my duties as the de-facto chief operations officer of the private banking sector, especially given the volume of funds he wished to put into our bank. We met on numerous occasions prior to any investments being placed. I encouraged him to consider various growth funds with prime ratings. The favored route in my advise to customers is to start by assessing data on 6000 traditional stocks and bond managers and 2000 managers of alternative investments. Based on my advice, We spun the money around various opportunities and made attractive margins for our first months of operation, the accrued profit and interest stood at this point at over ten million United States Dollars, this margin was not the full potential of the fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments. In mid 2001, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to make an urgent investment requiring cash payments in here in the united kingdom. He directed that I liquidate the funds and deposit it with a security firm. I informed him that Standard Life House would have to make special arrangements to have this done and in order not to circumvent due process, the bank would have to make a 9.5 % deduction from the funds to cater for banking and statutory charges. He complained about the charges but later came around when I explained to him the complexities of the task he was asking of us. Cash movement across boarders has become especially strict since the incidents of 9/11. I contacted my affiliate and made the funds available to the security firm. I undertook all the processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the letter and had the funds deposited with the security firm. The Security Firm is a specialist private firm that accepts deposits from high net worth individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or undertake transactions that need immediate access to cash. This small and highly private organization is familiar especially to the highly placed and well-connected organizations. In line with instructions, the money was deposited with the security firm. The deceased told me he wanted the money there in anticipation of his arrival from Norway later that week. This was the last communication we had, this transpired around 25th February 2003.In June last year, we got a call from the security firm informing us that the inactivity of that particular portfolio.This was an astounding position as far as I was concerned, given the fact that I managed the private banking sector I was the only one who knew about the deposit at the security firm, and I could not understand why the deceased had not come forward to claim his deposit. I made futile efforts to locate the deceased. I immediately passed the task of locating him to the internal investigations department of Standard Life House.Four days later, information started to trickle in,apparently our client was dead. A person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart attack in Canne, South of France. We were soon enough able to identify the body and cause of death was confirmed. The bank immediately launched an investigation into possible surviving next of kin to alert about the situation and also to come forward to claim his estate. If you are familiar with private banking affairs, those who patronize our services usually prefer anonymity, but also some levels of detachment from conventional processes. In his bio-data form, he listed no next of kin. In the field of private banking, opening an account with us means no one will know of its existence, accounts are rarely held under a name;depositors use numbers and codes to make the accounts anonymous. This bank also gives the choice to depositors of having their mail sent to them or held at the bank itself, ensuring that there are no traces of the account and as I said, rarely do they nominate next of kin. Private banking clients apart from not nominating next of kin also usually in most cases leave wills in our care, in this case; the deceased died without a testate. In line with our internal processes for account holders who have passed away, we instituted our own investigations in good faith to determine who should have right to claim the estate. This investigation has for the past months been unfruitful.We have scanned every continent and used our private investigation affiliate companies to get to the root of the problem. It is this investigation that resulted in my being furnished with your details as a possible relative of the deceased. My official capacity dictates that I am the only party to supervise the investigation and the only party to receive the results of the investigation. What this means, you being the last batch of names we have considered, is that our dear late fellow died with no known or identifiable family member. This leaves me as the only person with the full picture of what the prevailing situation is in relation to the deposit and the late beneficiary of the deposit. According to practice, The Security Firm will by the end of this financial year broadcast a request for statements of claim to Standard Life House,failing to receive viable claims they will most probably revert the deposit back to Standard Life House.This will result in the money entering the Standard Life Bank accounting system and the portfolio will be out of my hands and out of the private banking division. This will not happen if I have my way.What I wish to relate to you will smack of unethical practice but I want you to understand something. It is only an outsider to the banking world who finds the internal politics of the banking world aberrational. The world of private banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for those who occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios. You should have begun by now to put together the general direction of what I propose.There is Fifty Million Dollars deposited in a security firm, I alone have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to no one unless I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for as far as Standard Life House is concerned,the transaction with our late customer concluded when I sent the funds to the security firm, all outstanding interactions in relation to the file are just customer services and due process. The security Firm has no single idea of what?s the history or nature of the deposit. They are simply awaiting instructions to release the deposit to any party that comes forward. This is the situation. This bank has spent great amounts of money trying to track this man?s family; they have investigated for months and have found no family. The investigation has come to an end. My proposal; you share the same surname With our late client; I am prepared to place you in a position to instruct The security Firm to release the deposit to you as the closest surviving relation.Upon receipt of the deposit,I am prepared to share the money with you in half. That is: I will simply nominate you as the next of kin and have them release the deposit to you. We share the proceeds 50% for me, 50% for you Should you be interested please send me your full names,privatephone/fax number and A valid identification,The only thing that you are going to do is to open an account in your name and this is going to be your personal account in an offshore bank and send the details to me for us to transfer the funds from here. I will prefer you reach me on my private email address below And finally after that i shall provide you with more details of this transaction.Your earliest response to this letter will be highly appreciated. EMAIL:stewart_barculo1012uk@yahoo.com.hk I await your response. Mr Stewart Barculo From stewart_barculo2411uk@yahoo.com.hk Sun Aug 24 21:27:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 880 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:27:08 UTC Received: from cornholio.gagarinclub.ru (cornholio.migtel.ru [80.240.208.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93033BF66; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sqmail.gcnet.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cornholio.gagarinclub.ru (8.13.1/8.12.11) with SMTP id m7OL655v056522; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:06:05 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from stewart_barculo2411uk@yahoo.com.hk) Received: from 81.199.62.47 (SquirrelMail authenticated user shtat) by webmail.gcnet.ru with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:06:23 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <2013.81.199.62.47.1219611983.squirrel@webmail.gcnet.ru> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:06:23 +0400 (MSD) Subject: REPLY IMMEDIATELY. From: "MR STEWART BARCULO" Reply-To: stewart_barculo1021uk@yahoo.com.hk User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Standard Life Bank, 30 Lothian Road, Edinburgh EH1 2DH Email:stewart_barculo1012uk@yahoo.com.hk Goodday, I am Stewart Barculo, Staff 0f Standard Life Bank Limited.I am contacting you concerning a deceased customer and an investment he placed under our banks management three years ago.I would respectfully request that you keep the contents of this mail confidential and respect the integrity of the information you come by as a result of this mail. I contacted you independently of our investigation and no one is informed of this communication. I would like to intimate you with certain facts that I believe would be of interest to you.In 2000, the subject matter; came to our bank to engage in business iscussions with our private banking division. He informed us that he had a financial portfolio of Fifty million united states dollars,which he wished to have us turn over (invest) on his behalf.I was the officer assigned to his case, I made numerous suggestions in line with my duties as the de-facto chief operations officer of the private banking sector, especially given the volume of funds he wished to put into our bank. We met on numerous occasions prior to any investments being placed. I encouraged him to consider various growth funds with prime ratings. The favored route in my advise to customers is to start by assessing data on 6000 traditional stocks and bond managers and 2000 managers of alternative investments. Based on my advice, We spun the money around various opportunities and made attractive margins for our first months of operation, the accrued profit and interest stood at this point at over ten million United States Dollars, this margin was not the full potential of the fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments. In mid 2001, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to make an urgent investment requiring cash payments in here in the united kingdom. He directed that I liquidate the funds and deposit it with a security firm. I informed him that Standard Life House would have to make special arrangements to have this done and in order not to circumvent due process, the bank would have to make a 9.5 % deduction from the funds to cater for banking and statutory charges. He complained about the charges but later came around when I explained to him the complexities of the task he was asking of us. Cash movement across boarders has become especially strict since the incidents of 9/11. I contacted my affiliate and made the funds available to the security firm. I undertook all the processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the letter and had the funds deposited with the security firm. The Security Firm is a specialist private firm that accepts deposits from high net worth individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or undertake transactions that need immediate access to cash. This small and highly private organization is familiar especially to the highly placed and well-connected organizations. In line with instructions, the money was deposited with the security firm. The deceased told me he wanted the money there in anticipation of his arrival from Norway later that week. This was the last communication we had, this transpired around 25th February 2003.In June last year, we got a call from the security firm informing us that the inactivity of that particular portfolio.This was an astounding position as far as I was concerned, given the fact that I managed the private banking sector I was the only one who knew about the deposit at the security firm, and I could not understand why the deceased had not come forward to claim his deposit. I made futile efforts to locate the deceased. I immediately passed the task of locating him to the internal investigations department of Standard Life House.Four days later, information started to trickle in,apparently our client was dead. A person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart attack in Canne, South of France. We were soon enough able to identify the body and cause of death was confirmed. The bank immediately launched an investigation into possible surviving next of kin to alert about the situation and also to come forward to claim his estate. If you are familiar with private banking affairs, those who patronize our services usually prefer anonymity, but also some levels of detachment from conventional processes. In his bio-data form, he listed no next of kin. In the field of private banking, opening an account with us means no one will know of its existence, accounts are rarely held under a name;depositors use numbers and codes to make the accounts anonymous. This bank also gives the choice to depositors of having their mail sent to them or held at the bank itself, ensuring that there are no traces of the account and as I said, rarely do they nominate next of kin. Private banking clients apart from not nominating next of kin also usually in most cases leave wills in our care, in this case; the deceased died without a testate. In line with our internal processes for account holders who have passed away, we instituted our own investigations in good faith to determine who should have right to claim the estate. This investigation has for the past months been unfruitful.We have scanned every continent and used our private investigation affiliate companies to get to the root of the problem. It is this investigation that resulted in my being furnished with your details as a possible relative of the deceased. My official capacity dictates that I am the only party to supervise the investigation and the only party to receive the results of the investigation. What this means, you being the last batch of names we have considered, is that our dear late fellow died with no known or identifiable family member. This leaves me as the only person with the full picture of what the prevailing situation is in relation to the deposit and the late beneficiary of the deposit. According to practice, The Security Firm will by the end of this financial year broadcast a request for statements of claim to Standard Life House,failing to receive viable claims they will most probably revert the deposit back to Standard Life House.This will result in the money entering the Standard Life Bank accounting system and the portfolio will be out of my hands and out of the private banking division. This will not happen if I have my way.What I wish to relate to you will smack of unethical practice but I want you to understand something. It is only an outsider to the banking world who finds the internal politics of the banking world aberrational. The world of private banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for those who occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios. You should have begun by now to put together the general direction of what I propose.There is Fifty Million Dollars deposited in a security firm, I alone have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to no one unless I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for as far as Standard Life House is concerned,the transaction with our late customer concluded when I sent the funds to the security firm, all outstanding interactions in relation to the file are just customer services and due process. The security Firm has no single idea of what?s the history or nature of the deposit. They are simply awaiting instructions to release the deposit to any party that comes forward. This is the situation. This bank has spent great amounts of money trying to track this man?s family; they have investigated for months and have found no family. The investigation has come to an end. My proposal; you share the same surname With our late client; I am prepared to place you in a position to instruct The security Firm to release the deposit to you as the closest surviving relation.Upon receipt of the deposit,I am prepared to share the money with you in half. That is: I will simply nominate you as the next of kin and have them release the deposit to you. We share the proceeds 50% for me, 50% for you Should you be interested please send me your full names,privatephone/fax number and A valid identification,The only thing that you are going to do is to open an account in your name and this is going to be your personal account in an offshore bank and send the details to me for us to transfer the funds from here. I will prefer you reach me on my private email address below And finally after that i shall provide you with more details of this transaction.Your earliest response to this letter will be highly appreciated. EMAIL:stewart_barculo1012uk@yahoo.com.hk I await your response. Mr Stewart Barculo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 24 21:40:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 484C83BFB5; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=xFpkSndQJfOV97V4IYWdrE+rQ8ic86dQ7+BQpcFseQc=; b=PXWW4HZXJlGVBuoNAbwLsnXK2vLBFF4fVN72c2C+dBEcY4zQU0S7mzqUV/0YSI3nGk 4dTcBtg4D0McrXhrNTaudGmJA3GR3GeJxiqsiOAxBSVu9OjumBDDr6BqfL2t5nIwwp5+ kHElcP2/lTpyNkHZWn5HcXM2Hl+IFg2oh7FBs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=st4SrB7W/yudP0uwK8fMFTObZstSHn2ZcoT2tepsRS48BPgNUUEwPwtL4bkss3IdEN /blSaL36WpGI+ZOpmC75U0xG42ooxZXbJZlzMBiumrOeRqsnC7yKRXz1BMOb94ix0tF2 ZfK7aID5Kv81YnNTqDWQBejkviF7OoGDRSVa0= Message-ID: <588ce11d0808241440g419f1d2ck4ea06f727ce8856c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:40:10 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: OT: Here's a relatively cheap laptop recommendation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Requests for laptop recommendations come up occasionally so I thought I share the good news about my latest purchase. I got an Acer Extensa 5620-6030 for $700 and it ran the Live Five Performance test at 15%. Pretty good since my quad core home built computer scores 13%. My biggest problems with laptops have been the USB implementation since I use a Line 6 USB Toneport DI with the Gold plug in. I've had a lot of problems with substandard USB performance. None so far with the Acer. That 15% score holds solid at the minimum latency settings on the Line 6 toneport. The Acer Extensa also has the desired TI chipset for the onboard firewire interface. The two significant downsides are a 5400 rpm hard drive (you can buy 7200rpm laptop drives for $100 these days) and it comes loaded with Windows Vista Business and about 15 or 20 bloatware applications. At some point I'll probably put in a faster hard drive and Windows XP, but for now I'm happy. I bought mine from newegg.com which doesn't allow returns, so don't buy it there on my recommendation. I can't say that it will work for everyone. The gold standard for audio laptops is still the MacBook pro. YMMV. Specs seem impressive to me given the price: Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.2Ghz, 3Gb RAM (!). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115493 -- Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 06:31:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1E983BF52; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <002a01c905fa$ad2b0390$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: RE: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER-LOOPER pedal Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:31:43 +0200 Message-ID: <000401c9067c$3eb9b8c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9068D.024288C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckGENA9S0fWQS0QT/K+BUfFxbEQVgAayKjQ In-Reply-To: <002a01c905fa$ad2b0390$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.23; VDF: 7.0.6.59) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:31:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9068D.024288C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wonder if the rhythms that one can choose from are all fixed, like in a garden variety drum computer, or if it has some random settings (similar to Steinberg's Grooveagent) that would make more varied and interesting patterns -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9068D.024288C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I=20 wonder if the rhythms that one can choose from are all fixed, like in a = garden=20 variety drum computer, or if it has some random settings (similar to = Steinberg's=20 Grooveagent) that would make more varied and interesting=20 patterns
     
    -Michael
    ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9068D.024288C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 06:34:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C5693BF58; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <002a01c905fa$ad2b0390$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: RE: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER-LOOPER pedal Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:34:54 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c9067c$afaf9180$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9068D.73386180" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckGENA9S0fWQS0QT/K+BUfFxbEQVgAayKjQ In-Reply-To: <002a01c905fa$ad2b0390$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.23; VDF: 7.0.6.59) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:34:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9068D.73386180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also wonder if there are VST plugins that can do basically the same thing ... actually I was planning to get away from hardware ... but with more digital effects pedals arriving, there will be a constant temptation to buy them and cover the floor with even more heavy pedals instead of going virtual -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9068D.73386180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I=20 also wonder if there are VST plugins that can do basically the same = thing ...=20 actually I was planning to get away from hardware ... but with more = digital=20 effects pedals arriving, there will be a constant temptation to buy them = and=20 cover the floor with even more heavy pedals instead of going virtual=20
     
    -Michael
    ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9068D.73386180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 06:44:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38A6F3BF58; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER-LOOPER pedal Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:44:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01C90654.21544480" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <000901c9067c$afaf9180$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckGENA9S0fWQS0QT/K+BUfFxbEQVgAayKjQAACAbTA= Message-Id: <20080825064439.D69B13BF4F@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:44:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C90654.21544480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heavy Pedal-that's surely a genre designation. dave I also wonder if there are VST plugins that can do basically the same thing ... actually I was planning to get away from hardware ... but with more digital effects pedals arriving, there will be a constant temptation to buy them and cover the floor with even more heavy pedals instead of going virtual -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C90654.21544480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Heavy Pedal—that’s = surely a genre designation…

     

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    I also wonder if there are VST plugins that can do = basically the same thing ... actually I was planning to get away from hardware ... = but with more digital effects pedals arriving, there will be a constant = temptation to buy them and cover the floor with even more heavy pedals instead of = going virtual

     

    -Michael

    ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C90654.21544480-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 07:34:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4D803BF47; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0bUlo5saejXX1PVC0rLw1CMRHFsBljoCCEdfPIJ9fnc=; b=IgpH6GCSn58GzKAeAzWbW40aMV+HBMot8YM3xnCjHeu8ai9mpYYzfNCvv2EYlNxOm8 4HllFiEzLzVNInJPiBHMKLiNVzndIMDpsUJ44W7JJdgjobiVlf1bajAy2zC1HM7S7RCV UEUemBoppJXQ/xbR9cxQIJqOSQSIqMrRYjjzw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=O8oTOtOeGo4bzl2SPE+/A7/kH123GDh5qUbTnq5N1yVvtvvZUZ22zJje+aknz8gszX bZ5np42iN5a7ajpfQ/6BGixUKkEWArVHdkvh3rMTT+Vu8z+7s8CLccdY3yS2ArB9buWC ROuwnk/xEfB6537hejlLy0W/pS2Z0F6sSbdGE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808250034s33b0a032m7d2a28d94b84d726@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:34:01 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER-LOOPER pedal In-Reply-To: <000901c9067c$afaf9180$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <002a01c905fa$ad2b0390$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <000901c9067c$afaf9180$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: <6VbSmB.A.KmB.qBmsIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:34:02 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > I also wonder if there are VST plugins that can do basically the same thing A bunch of (hopefully) useful hints: TB Cairo is the name of the free VST plug-in that I use in Windows for this kind of live stuttering/gating on my laptop looping setup. You can find the download page by an internet search engine. It can be set to any musical or non musical rhythmic relation to the tempo. It does not reorder the slices though, but many loopers do that fine (Looperlative 1, Mobius, Live's BeatRepeat). A more musically interesting approach IMO would be to have a proper step sequencer sending out the "open/close the gate" commands, because this would allow for a musical groove factor (swing) and not only the stiff mathematical grid that we know from plug-ins like TB Cairo, LP1's scramble, Mobius shuffle, Mobius scripting or the BOSS SL-20. This is by the way one of the reasons I'm not interested in using VST's in the future, as the best groove clocked step sequencing host application I know, Numerology, works with AU plug-ins under OS X. If you are using Pro Tools as your looping host you can buy the Pro Tools plug-in Transfuser that does both slicing/gating and many other things. I have just did a test of Transfuser and was amazed by how powerful this plug-in is and how easy it is to use, thanks to the smart and clever design. In Logic many native instrument plug-ins can fetch the audio input as a side-chain feed and then work as slicing gates. The gating rhythm can be directed by either the plug-in's built-in step sequencer or an infinite number of MIDI regions (sequences) placed on a track along the linear time line. Whatever software method you prefer, a nice trick is to assign a MIDI expression pedal to sweep the musically relevant time measure values of the slicing/gating speed while playing. I started doing that back in the Repeater days, using analog filter banks, but it's much easier to set up and use creatively with today's computer hosted software. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 07:51:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 438103BF1F; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=zYIEt/OZnYswbhbOkzUjhcLn91ZsvODms2X1LpXLW3WF41QEW4MNh8/Rh33PzM7rup308J59Cp/xd5a7I1wlnhZ1NmhGHw4bFgQTR13uY8EWtx7ffZZcMQER+7xUDn7EFwmzxPMoenpT3dK+OAEjHbJ4fezPIqHZEgraLd4Nzf8=; X-YMail-OSG: NdBAPscVM1niKTI0OyEq7F1xA5SlIZCG0X7LBx4MONWmmAd5RYCtU9_LkbjHefcIHfFjmR.2L4787qgYf1ryyBUnmq2zHpBcqpzm04j8WrInYc4u0TvZr5B.mZdrFicremCjOL1NbPtZ_mzpj7Ezs353 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:51:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Audio Cookbook To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808230321j10606c00k959791cb8412b046@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <2862.54802.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:51:36 +0000 (UTC) thanx for this link! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Per Boysen wrote: > From: Per Boysen > Subject: Audio Cookbook > To: "loopers-delight" > Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 3:21 AM > Hi loopers, > > I stumbled over this in my opinion highly interesting and > useful web > blogg on sound design and thought it might as well interest > some > members of this list: > > http://audiocookbook.org/ > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 10:46:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E4B13BF47; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=s+PXAGuFKo9kpq3tIlqm04AvKI6b1qQMzRVsQpeAY6VUmHwf7iPslf4/jWxQ030BzBqd7jtUAQoJRBq5lyCX6i+l3c8WzluQrikh0Qjtp3q8eSEBIY//Umew4IOZ5y6n/yvIgEmQrp73hLgHXifq5lF25AytPNOH4q5H8RTf/3E=; X-YMail-OSG: 34aEAtsVM1k4oJaPojskCvBCxEeLfHyNgBAWtv_h5hHToqxOLUnVxBZWLfaRA3.PeVvTu0tiVW7OB106p.ZnJSCu3kss4Vmm5T33U5wWPYw0mTNGMfsmGlHH4ArBuw3uMpEumU81f5eLfKBEA57AqeSo X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: bespeco expression pedals for loopers efx proccesors etc. To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <540815.71464.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, I am hunting for a second cheaper exp pedal, the bespecos are cheaper compared to the boss,Ernie ball and line 6 ones,i also like the fact that they are light to carry, but i am not sure which ones would work just like the ones i mentioned there are different ones here: http://www.bespeco.it/product.php?lingua=en&mac=6&cat=116 will the ones for keyboards work just as well like this one? http://www.musikland-online.de/onlineshop_bevmv966656_Bespeco-VM-18L-Volumenpedal.html thanx Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 11:24:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD2233BF0B; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01b401c906a5$3472f790$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:24:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:24:50 +0000 (UTC) CHRIS SEWELL wrote: "I have been tempted. But it seems like it has such a distinctive sound. I can just imagine "that sound" permeating music for the next 6 months then disappearing. Much like the Adrenilinn did." Yeah, Chris, I actually thought of this before I bought it, although I have to say, that innovation, timbrally, in music always goes through the curve of phenonmenal and brand new, used a lot, over used, abandoned. (and I want to throttle the next R&B/hip hop producer who forces the 'Cher Antares Autotune Wobble' onto another young female vocalist). The first time I heard Andre LaFosse creating tiny guitar loops and then playing them or sequencing them from a drum machine it was astonishing, I had never heard it before, but, after time, one gets used to a sound and decides whether it is 'old news' or 'classic' in terms of their expanding repertoire. I still use that technique though (as does Andre, brilliantly) and keep finding new ways to make it sound interesting. Many the time we've seen analogue synths come into vogue, get overused in pop music, dissapear and then resurface 10-15 years as the 'latest thing'. But, if you think of it, the Viola da Gamba was an incredible innovation for bowed string players, then it was replaced by the Viola in popularity. Personally, my attempt to circumvent this phenomenae is to continually be trying to learn new instruments, new techniques and then to attempt to innovate new techniques on the instruments I"m playing. I'm fairly certain that I will be the first and last person to strike a brass candy dish with my thumb; manipulate the overtones rhythmically, slice it with the SL-20 slicer, loop it, rerecord it into the Electrix Repeater and then play it melodically over three octaves with a Yamaha WX-5 wind synthesizer. I think with all equipment, creativity is the final arbiter of whether something is useful or not. If worse comes to worse, I, as an incredibly technically mediocre guitarist (and two day old fretless guitarist.......lol) can use this thing to get guitar textures that sound fantastic when I put drums, bass and some kind of lead instrument over the top...............and quickly at that. But it might not be the instrument for you as I respect fully. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 11:24:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B7BA3BF52; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:24:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01bd01c906a5$37919cb0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:24:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <591YjD.A.diH.GapsIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:24:55 +0000 (UTC) Regarding questions about the SL-20 SLICER's midi implementation, it only recieves midi clock. Haven't even tried that because I don't use a lot of midi in my music (other than syncing with my brother when we play together). I'll give it a try when I have the time and let you all know how it works with an EDP and a Looperlative. Saliently, the new KORG KAOSS PAD 3 has midi as well and the ability to make four loops that can sync or not sync with your other equipment and with themselves. This is an amazing piece of kit as the Brits say but I don't know it nearly well enough to review it for us. Anyone else want to review the KAOSS PAD 3 as a looping device? It's just fantastic for re sampling and loop stuff we've done and then manipulating the hell out of it with time based effects (filters, delays, verbs, et. al.) 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Best=20regards, Mr.=20peter=20Obinna =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 12:28:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 721FB3BF3C; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MqrSCkm4qRkA:10 a=Rs0fPlBofT0A:10 a=2hgPsgHl8GkcrGv5bCEA:9 a=C1uwKP65N6tot7SSShkA:7 a=_CKH6u_XuRqShOLkvt7HmWVrHN0A:4 a=8UL1S1SzPDgA:10 In-Reply-To: <01b401c906a5$3472f790$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> References: <01b401c906a5$3472f790$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <492F5B21-5066-4DD5-8490-1B4B6C7DA2B5@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:28:52 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:28:53 +0000 (UTC) True enough. I didn't mean to diminish your enthusiasm for the pedal. I'm curious though, after you run the candy dish through the slicer, how different does it sound than say an electric guitar? That said, I'm probably guilty of putting to much stock into the Roland Video Demo. Like after watching the RC50 demo, one would think that it was specifically for playing prerecorded backing tracks. Roland seems to be pretty short sighted when it comes to their forward thinking technology. With Respect, Chris On Aug 25, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > CHRIS SEWELL wrote: > "I have been tempted. But it seems like it has such a distinctive > sound. I > can just imagine "that sound" permeating music for the next 6 > months then > disappearing. Much like the Adrenilinn did." > > > Yeah, Chris, I actually thought of this before I bought it, > although I > have to say, that > innovation, timbrally, in music always goes through the curve of > phenonmenal > and brand new, used a lot, over used, abandoned. > (and I want to throttle the next R&B/hip hop producer who forces > the 'Cher > Antares Autotune Wobble' onto another young > female vocalist). > > The first time I heard Andre LaFosse creating tiny guitar loops and > then > playing them or sequencing them > from a drum machine it was astonishing, I had never heard it > before, but, > after time, one gets used to a > sound and decides whether it is 'old news' or 'classic' in terms > of their > expanding repertoire. > I still use that technique though (as does Andre, brilliantly) and > keep > finding new ways to make it sound interesting. > > Many the time we've seen analogue synths come into vogue, get > overused in > pop music, dissapear and then > resurface 10-15 years as the 'latest thing'. > > But, if you think of it, the Viola da Gamba was an incredible > innovation for > bowed string players, then > it was replaced by the Viola in popularity. > > Personally, my attempt to circumvent this phenomenae is to > continually be > trying to learn new instruments, > new techniques and then to attempt to innovate new techniques on the > instruments I"m playing. > > I'm fairly certain that I will be the first and last person to > strike a > brass candy dish with my thumb; manipulate > the overtones rhythmically, slice it with the SL-20 slicer, loop it, > rerecord it into the Electrix > Repeater and then play it melodically over three octaves with a > Yamaha WX-5 > wind synthesizer. > > I think with all equipment, creativity is the final arbiter of > whether > something is useful or not. > > If worse comes to worse, I, as an incredibly technically mediocre > guitarist > (and two day old fretless guitarist.......lol) > can use this thing to get guitar textures that sound fantastic when > I put > drums, bass and some kind of lead instrument > over the top...............and quickly at that. > > But it might not be the instrument for you as I respect fully. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 12:30:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAD283BF41; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:30:01 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <15134995.1219609433342.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20080825123001.114260@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <15134995.1219609433342.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX183OqBQ/Po3suMIJHAUPhWn6K/SUBUNX/I1mJYUxA 6xbKizG8GhGjaJwTwi5hwBGl5710x+WGSaRg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 8ZeLfZlheWUoTsF6iHRz0pkxU3U4N8/b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Glad you confirmed my first impression, Rick, that the new Slicer sounds really cool ;-) I am also really tempted to get one. But the number of pedals is becoming ridiculous. I really should stop buying hardware until I eventually switch to software looping... Be prepared to hear that Slicer effect more often in the future. I think - instead of an "exotic ambient" sound - it will become a commodity that every other school kid will use to pep up their guitar sound. Just too simple & tempting... Buzap -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 12:36:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 785173BF40; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:36:19 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:36:21 +0000 (UTC) > Rick wrote: > Anyone else want to review the KAOSS PAD 3 as a looping device? > It's just fantastic for re sampling and loop stuff we've done and then = > manipulating the > hell out of it with time based effects (filters, delays, verbs, et. al.= ) Hi Rick, I recently tested a Korg Kaospad 3 for about 2 hours. Although it's desig= ned for DJ's, you can of course use it for any style. Imo it's perfect fo= r creating bizarre rhythmic drones and loops and it works much quicker th= an an EDP or LP1 with a footcontroller. The internal effects are stunning= and one of the best I've heard in years. You could use the Kaospad 3 sta= ndalone or as a sort of post-looper synced to an EDP or LP1 and resample = that. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 14:15:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F7633BF1A; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=o5LqpWnQ1PZYgdy/17iwR/vz3jyWTRcaAQChPfSvqeU=; b=C1cDrxBbNR3bDB07SgH47DQMvIBvJ7J7SEc/hpjT23M+XBhepn5GPm478PgDBQ/AyO f9QW9/zd01wfCOImxBncU5yyfhx2/gO7dgwdFWOOj9dAVNSHkoBWxkDD+a7XMT3E9pp7 aGSrS3jxC9Y0O7jPqyRn27wtan4U5n2xeEnLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gONgxCXKAabbQO4IiK31jMfIs3ioImtiaz2U6R4o7j6RuwByrgAvBUOp7PgwfN1x4X mvRRZYKKmDlfPETbb1iFwyEkLbifIk/tqi7EttiSSU4OCcwjlkehzLa/bbVnvFCIDVvF mbuwwRt1TTiSPzKsNrgPaSQvjXTcccra8HlKU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:15:09 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 In-Reply-To: <142963.44997.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_102340_3428187.1219673709379" References: <142963.44997.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0lPZMB.A.7uD.u5rsIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:15:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_102340_3428187.1219673709379 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline you all greatly aurally enhanced those clips ...it even seemes to be a connection beyond pure improvisation which is difficult to achieve in ensemble. thanks Luis for sharing!, ra=FCl. 2008/8/23 L.A. Angulo > Hi gang, > Our experimental performance of "musica Optica" last year at the Radolfze= ll > residenz Kino is now in youtube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dxr3DEspTEDY > > Spontaneous Improvisations to images and pictures > > Rainer Dost -acoustic guitar,vox,percussion > Luis Angulo-Electric Guitar,synths,drum machine,harmonica,vox > Volker Wagner- Sax > > cheers > Luis > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_102340_3428187.1219673709379 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
    you all greatly aurally enhanced those clips ...
    it ev= en seemes to be a connection beyond pure improvisation which is difficult t= o achieve in ensemble.

    thanks Luis for sharing!,
    ra=FCl. 

    2008/8/23 L.A. Angulo = <labaloops@yaho= o.com>
    Hi gang,
    Our experimental performance of "musica Optica" last year at the = Radolfzell residenz Kino is now in youtube:

    = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dxr3DEspTEDY

    Spontaneous Improvisations to images and pictures

    Rainer Dost -acoustic guitar,vox,percussion
    Luis Angulo-Electric Guitar,synths,drum machine,harmonica,vox
    Volker Wagner- Sax

    cheers
    Luis






    www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom







    --
    The Playing Orchestra: = http://www.telefonica.net/we= b2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http= ://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
    ------=_Part_102340_3428187.1219673709379-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 14:28:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50F2B3BF38; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMu1Mm2uKtg== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: mini review: Korg KP3 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:28:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 In-Reply-To: <01bd01c906a5$37919cb0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Thread-Index: AckGpTLkl+Sooo4WQMKVIrkCmcyV+AAFaLcA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:28:20 +0000 (UTC) > Anyone else want to review the KAOSS PAD 3 as a looping device? > It's just fantastic for re sampling and loop stuff we've done Hi Rick, there's a comparison of a few different Kaoss devices here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200802/msg00005.html and info on the KP3 software 2.0 here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200802/msg00015.html There's also a video demo (sw version 1.x): http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-4135927290013891493 referenced here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200706/msg00438.html and here's a review of the KP3 (sw version 1.x): http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200706/msg00339.html The short 411 from a looper's perspective: * No "first loop capability" (samples of arbitrary length are only possible for oneshot samples) * no true overdub, but resampling can be used as a faux overdub * maximum loop length (per slot): around 13s (it's 16 beats down to above 73bpm, then it halves to 8 beats etc.) * FX release and a short record function for pad movements are great enhancements over the KP2 * a big letdown: you can't pan samples, and you can't put them (or the live signal) pre/post FX: it's always pre FX * loop storage on SD card. Cumbersome process of storing/loading loops and proprietary format (i.e. no WAV/AIFF files) Summary: if it had first loop capability and perhaps a few more seconds of loop length (let's say double the amount) and the possibility to selectively route the slots and the live signal to the FX, then it would be extremely cool. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 14:35:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 541A53BF37; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject :date:x-mailer; bh=UQJYjXO5oJOuHImEUvg03Cv/tUqcac8hXq8JsGQjtvk=; b=fUakwcSwfvHxhsejvhNS1Qap3glsEZmFh57LvJzB7nchfS0XL+g/GyuJsd4iFI9TxC 91lnqge5t0t63aRLEW7dZ/x9LFeI66+EFpWOn8zrWkk9hjC2SZJmeS5xYt/+E9jVt/xc Zpais17xynh3XO7IApXSRirTkWolygFosVFgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to :from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=BrMufEDd5Sf24Ylw3NtLJ2+EVa9HeN9+u/CN1ljaWiKkK7k1VlHsvl/mj7PMO800C9 G0t2+lizja89O0HtSr6PxNUWUCBUF8BUahQWLSvEs0iZiKhQEAdVA5hrmonQFHKvaeM2 VFUCILrjHpGV5yr4hdYKXSkmywGD5ptcp1UB4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5EC7C02A-5425-42E8-9B49-F23921F0577C@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Marcus Staniec Subject: An Introduction of Sorts Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:35:44 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Hello all, I joined this list some time ago and may have even participated a few times but I forget. After recently doing some research that led me to this community's archive I decided to get back on board to further enlighten myself and to share whatever it is I can share. Presently I live in Japan and work composing music to media such as documentaries, film, TV spots, ect., I teach improvisation to high school students, and I am also involved in performing. Most of my looping activities go into two bands I have. One band, The GoodLuck Boys, performs frequently around the Tokyo area. You can hear some old music at goodluckboys.com - though it hasn't been updated for ages. Most of the music on the site dates back to when we were a duo experimenting with arranging our songs and improvising drones. We are a full quartet now working with great musicians with a more distinct sound. One day we will update. BTW, my looping gear consists of a Boss RC-20, Boss DD-20, and a Koass Pad 3. Thanks for reading. Marcus Staniec From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 14:39:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30CF53BF37; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=BSnyO+ISJ4AAlPCbgT+StUrMy6ajL4bjXqRDAa1UyEBskjo/j62XLlXeqk7nYzReEQpxRUf72uS939YT9zDc0ciY+1jMN1FjTXODh12NJf+DBc+wdH2Z03Ujz281wNabHLxYIt/jCxtfYJhqGY+d9nNlm6XLawCi/dFyCoP6Re8=; X-YMail-OSG: uj9GXV0VM1lmqNh7yuFKXlr57zopn0lxXcvyvOeLkFHuhzvgGSmYezgFtGCHA7dztzcHbHquRH.Frzxzj261EtmKwyrh9WkjlBG1bjtkhDPYQA3.Amdnoal3UfNzq27QVdHoMIk83LbUfoPPVKeKAZE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:39:25 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: RE: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER-LOOPER pedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000901c9067c$afaf9180$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <87061.74759.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:39:29 +0000 (UTC) The nice thing about pedals vs. plug-ins is the (lack of) latency. I spent a lot of time over the weekend working with live, and with no plug-ins, the latency was barely tolerable (maybe 23ms?). Adding compression in-line made it unusable, IMO. For the types of things the slicer does, I'm more interested in the MoogerFooger MURF 105. It doesn't do all the things the slicer does (and vice versa), but it seems likely you can get a more "personal" sound out of the MURF due to it's programmability. Or should I say adjustibility, since it doesn't save anything except for the current settings. But I haven't used either pedal. Is the MURF already played out? -George --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Michael Peters wrote: > From: Michael Peters > Subject: RE: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER-LOOPER pedal > To: "Loopers Delight" > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 11:34 PM > I also wonder if there are VST plugins that can do basically > the same thing > ... actually I was planning to get away from hardware ... > but with more > digital effects pedals arriving, there will be a constant > temptation to buy > them and cover the floor with even more heavy pedals > instead of going > virtual > > -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 14:52:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5045E3BF1C; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=Rdb3dmbmU6nrZnJyC7yA+5vUdZhjbaPsQvIf/HdFdXRFAKckLWN+XIn7k20DKVYkZrs6ewM8OLPkXREKHrhFSt2fPBo2Et7qPdveKuWFLfXxDR6infsdT0l0TBXqeyQcUrJ2HfR8gX8dG5WPK0rRxv+5quLIlqPqB3UVDT4JPus= ; X-YMail-OSG: kWara1EVM1k8y6I0xM1AGUP0SImJSjb3U7SihBAfh7ooD6PYaPn8ucbBJ_8TW4YlfHq1G9E8Sm1SSw_zx_Ab31ZuqrhA.QF82eyvlk2UyPQE52PH6yfLnrTgRbPWzbg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <5EC7C02A-5425-42E8-9B49-F23921F0577C@gmail.com> References: <5EC7C02A-5425-42E8-9B49-F23921F0577C@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-850571741 Message-Id: <99F7C190-75C2-41CF-9B17-890D80391DAC@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: An Introduction of Sorts Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:52:19 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:52:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-850571741 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Welcome!! Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 25 Aug 2008, at 15:35, Marcus Staniec wrote: > Hello all, > I joined this list some time ago and may have even participated a few > times but I forget. > After recently doing some research that led me to this community's > archive I decided to get back on board to further enlighten myself > and to share whatever it is I can share. > Presently I live in Japan and work composing music to media such as > documentaries, film, TV spots, ect., I teach improvisation to high > school students, and I am also involved in performing. > Most of my looping activities go into two bands I have. One band, The > GoodLuck Boys, performs frequently around the Tokyo area. You can > hear some old music at goodluckboys.com - though it hasn't been > updated for ages. Most of the music on the site dates back to when we > were a duo experimenting with arranging our songs and improvising > drones. We are a full quartet now working with great musicians with a > more distinct sound. One day we will update. > BTW, my looping gear consists of a Boss RC-20, Boss DD-20, and a > Koass Pad 3. > Thanks for reading. > > Marcus Staniec > --Apple-Mail-2-850571741 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Welcome!!

    Matt = Stevens
    www.mattstevensguitar.com




    On 25 Aug 2008, = at 15:35, Marcus Staniec wrote:

    Hello all,
    I joined this = list some time ago and may have even participated a few
    times but I forget.
    After = recently doing some research that led me to this community's
    archive I decided to get back on board to further = enlighten myself
    and to share whatever it is I = can share.
    Presently I live in Japan and = work composing music to media such as
    school students, and I am also = involved in performing.
    Most of my = looping activities go into two bands I have. One band, The
    GoodLuck Boys, performs frequently around the Tokyo = area. You can
    hear some old music at = goodluckboys.com - though it hasn't been
    updated = for ages. Most of the music on the site dates back to when we
    were a duo experimenting with arranging our songs = and improvising
    drones. We are a full quartet = now working with great musicians with a
    more = distinct sound. One day we will update.
    BTW, my = looping gear consists of a Boss RC-20, Boss DD-20, and a
    Koass Pad 3.
    Thanks for = reading.

    Marcus Staniec


    = --Apple-Mail-2-850571741-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 15:17:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75DB23BF13; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 398 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:17:09 UTC X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18d230zSCIdK1nO9u8xFk5cNpl8ieFmEIqkTboTqm 7gUkDd1axAPnF9 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <760FAB3E-170B-45E5-BDE5-6725C8FF17B1@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Nico Spahni Subject: Free Kaossilator and looping album Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:10:28 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.61 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi Loopers I'm happy to announce that much of my music is now available for free =20= on Jamendo (which doesn't mean that you're not allowed to donate =20 generously... I know, wishful thinking ;-). Jamendo is a community of =20= free, legal and unlimited music published under Creative Commons =20 licenses. You=92ll find tons of free music there =96 from crappy to =20 inspiring and everything in between. Here's the link to all my published albums: http://www.jamendo.com/en/=20= artist/Nico_Spahni Click on the following link if you want to listen to my improvised =20 ambient guitar looping album: http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/28029 The following link takes you to my most recent work "Sounds of =20 Kaoss" (no live looping): http://www.jamendo.com/album/30442 =84Sounds of Kaoss=93 is a handful of tracks featuring the Korg =20 Kaossilator and Kaoss Pad (mini-KP). All sounds are exclusively =20 derived from these two devices. A DAW was used for editing as well as =20= volume and balance adjustments. Also, subtle EQ and additional reverb =20= was applied here and there to make the listening experience (even) =20 more enjoyable. Has anyone else on this list published anything on Jamendo? I know =20 Rainer has. Cheers Nico www.jamendo.com/en/artist/Nico_Spahni www.myspace.com/nicospahni www.recpro.ch From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 15:34:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78AC93BF0F; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMu1Mm2uKtg== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Free Kaossilator and looping album Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:34:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 In-Reply-To: <760FAB3E-170B-45E5-BDE5-6725C8FF17B1@gmx.net> Thread-Index: AckGxacvYm2/BxGbRZSF9S/gp0X56gAAYpWw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:34:32 +0000 (UTC) > "Sounds of Kaoss" is a handful of tracks featuring the Korg > Kaossilator and Kaoss Pad (mini-KP). All sounds are Now this is interesting (and I still have the Kaossilator on my list to complement it with my KP3). In the description you say that while the music was "derived" from the two Kaoss devices, a DAW was used as well. Could you explain your approach a little? Did you play the pieces with the two Kaoss things, then record that to twotrack and work with that in the DAW, or was some multitracking (meaning: something you couldn't do in a live performance) involved? > Has anyone else on this list published anything on Jamendo? I > know Rainer has. There is at least Per Boysen: http://www.jamendo.com/en/user/pboy and Raul Bonell: http://www.jamendo.com/en/user/harus.liver From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 15:39:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A7443BF13; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05b801c906c8$c1b3ed30$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:39:25 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_05B5_01C906E1.E63C0070" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <0Q_KhC.A.giG.5ItsIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_05B5_01C906E1.E63C0070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have finished recording a new album with jacob young in oslo last = week. for this session, i have carried 2 whole bags of pedals and rack = units. i would like to simplify a portion of this setup. looking fwd to = your ideas. the signal goes like this : les paul - volume pedal - carl martin comp - procorat - mxr phaser - mxr = chorus - zvex ringtone - zvex fuzz factory - mxr flanger - ehx micropog = - mooger fooger ring modulator - ehx hog - mooger fooger murf - marshall = jmp1 - mixer channel 1 aux 1 : eclipse aux 2 : tc fireworx aux 3 : lexicon mpx100 aux 4 : eventide time factor ( optional ) i have been looking at boss gt10, vox tonelab for getting decent amp = tones with very good speaker simulation. then maybe i can get rid of = marshall and some of the mxr pedals. but i just can not get the same = tone of these analog pedals out from these multifx floor units or from = my laptop ( audiomulch, reaktor etc ) setup. what should i do? my sound = is based on these units, especially the weird zvex, ehx, moog pedals and = tc, lexicon, eventide. looking fwd to your ideas. also the cables and adapters weigh sometimes more than the weight of the = units! is there anything like very light cables and adapters? :) thanks and best regards. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ------=_NextPart_000_05B5_01C906E1.E63C0070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi,
     
    I have finished recording a new album with jacob young in oslo last = week.=20 for this session, i have carried 2 whole bags of pedals and rack units. = i would=20 like to simplify a portion of this setup. looking fwd to your = ideas.
     
    the signal goes like this :
     
    les paul - volume pedal - carl martin comp - procorat - mxr phaser = - mxr=20 chorus - zvex ringtone - zvex fuzz factory - mxr flanger - ehx micropog = - mooger=20 fooger ring modulator - ehx hog - mooger fooger murf - marshall jmp1 - = mixer=20 channel 1
     
    aux 1 : eclipse
    aux 2 : tc fireworx
    aux 3 : lexicon mpx100
    aux 4 : eventide time factor ( optional )
     
    i have been looking at boss gt10, vox tonelab for getting decent = amp tones=20 with very good speaker simulation. then maybe i can get rid of marshall = and some=20 of the mxr pedals. but i just can not get the same tone of these analog = pedals=20 out from these multifx floor units or from my laptop ( audiomulch, = reaktor etc )=20 setup. what should i do? my sound is based on these units, especially = the weird=20 zvex, ehx, moog pedals and tc, lexicon, eventide. looking fwd to your=20 ideas.
     
    also the cables and adapters weigh sometimes more than the weight = of the=20 units! is there anything like very light cables and adapters? :)
     
    thanks and best regards.
     
    Erdem Helvacioglu
    www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
    = www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
    *=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    "Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
    chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
    www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
    www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
    ------=_NextPart_000_05B5_01C906E1.E63C0070-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 15:54:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39A523BF16; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18LATUwog8LLdjlB3aNIRjB5JYiLEZN8vEvKC3veq O1xnDUXUGFGV8c Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <779246C1-3199-436F-B91A-A7AA8EEE09D4@gmx.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Nico Spahni Subject: Re: AW: Free Kaossilator and looping album Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:53:58 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:54:02 +0000 (UTC) > > Could you explain your approach a little? Did you play the pieces > with the > two Kaoss things, then record that to twotrack and work with that > in the > DAW, or was some multitracking (meaning: something you couldn't do > in a live > performance) involved? There was a lot of multitracking involved. You couldn't possible achieve the same results in a live situation. At first I very much intended to do a live album but it didn't lead to any satisfying results. The Kaossilator (or I as a live musician?) is quite limited in this respect but there are some live Kaossilator albums around: http://www.reverbnation.com/theyellowalbum http://cdbaby.com/cd/stevenedwardlittle http://cdbaby.com/cd/cosmiccurtain2 Cheers Nico From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 15:55:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 177453BF0F; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1861 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:55:12 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.9 X-EN-IMPSID: 6fQ81a0070BkWne0000000 Message-ID: <48B2CE92.5070207@aromabar.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:24:02 -0400 From: blixton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: wtb: casio pg-380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 8fa5b2a164f06463fef95856b46475b8:b28e276ab15476efec7f989e64d1d602 X-EN-AuthUser: blixton Sender: blixton X-EN-OrigIP: 207.255.191.111 X-EN-OrigHost: 207-255-191-111-dhcp.gsv.md.atlanticbb.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:55:13 +0000 (UTC) still looking, thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 15:57:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35DB33BF18; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMu1Mm2uKtg== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:57:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 In-Reply-To: <05b801c906c8$c1b3ed30$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Thread-Index: AckGyMjepy+AARdaRFm9BLnKOZ47rwAAMLRA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Erdem, you're using a lot of both dedicated effects and flexible multi-fx devices, so if you would be more specific on the actual requirements you have (e.g. using delays up to a length of x seconds, using vocoders, whatever) rather than on the devices, that may help. Quite frankly, I fail to believe that one can't get the sound of, say, a mxr phaser from a reaktor-based setup. Perhaps you should work more on understanding how to model a specific sound with a relatively flexible tool like reaktor. One series of hardware boxes I like for very flexible effects construction is the Clavia Modular series. They excel on creating crazy nonlinear dynamics or filter-based effects. I personally enjoy the Pod X3 Live, which features at least models of some of the devices you mention (JMP1, mxr phaser). Using fewer devices will automatically reduce the weight you have to carry around. Apart from that, make your own cables. Use automotive- or aerospace-type of cables as a starting point, they are both weight-optimized and very sturdy. Rainer ________________________________ Von: Erdem Helvacioglu [mailto:erdemhel@tnn.net] Gesendet: Montag, 25. August 2008 17:39 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: elec gtr setup - to simplify Hi, I have finished recording a new album with jacob young in oslo last week. for this session, i have carried 2 whole bags of pedals and rack units. i would like to simplify a portion of this setup. looking fwd to your ideas. the signal goes like this : les paul - volume pedal - carl martin comp - procorat - mxr phaser - mxr chorus - zvex ringtone - zvex fuzz factory - mxr flanger - ehx micropog - mooger fooger ring modulator - ehx hog - mooger fooger murf - marshall jmp1 - mixer channel 1 aux 1 : eclipse aux 2 : tc fireworx aux 3 : lexicon mpx100 aux 4 : eventide time factor ( optional ) i have been looking at boss gt10, vox tonelab for getting decent amp tones with very good speaker simulation. then maybe i can get rid of marshall and some of the mxr pedals. but i just can not get the same tone of these analog pedals out from these multifx floor units or from my laptop ( audiomulch, reaktor etc ) setup. what should i do? my sound is based on these units, especially the weird zvex, ehx, moog pedals and tc, lexicon, eventide. looking fwd to your ideas. also the cables and adapters weigh sometimes more than the weight of the units! is there anything like very light cables and adapters? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 16:13:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D63443BF1C; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=A9I0XevaZYAry0cLT2mJYwWxgW3KV9fAENqta1xgLM8=; b=OtzW0pgq/Wmoj9tBPErlsibWsNJNazwcznI1e9rB1hN6PEGICDpHNc0hAMPk7EHQo2 lJBGI7PJbus7Hot0Dc/BWlf6gJQSqWlESeP6REI2N8cLETKVgJcgFuso1WatGD7buv11 3HYsYtC0HnlTiqwDHdCSasnzoUB6F41SGY5XQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=j6LgLhorzoQatBesum5FdNrw/E4mS4X0egX7cTShrrNDfKXdN0vq134TxXMMiEsLpc uPjYRuFqUAs2D4+9p7/lKuIxyzsYSrYCVvZYGLEXe5nU+greG9TBpzCbYkyRKyk8l1Sm L67/GK8AEqNmVRUTSNspQHEhnxUKc8gamIDyA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <760FAB3E-170B-45E5-BDE5-6725C8FF17B1@gmx.net> References: <760FAB3E-170B-45E5-BDE5-6725C8FF17B1@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3836E875-4A2A-403E-9D10-0586FE45983F@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Free Kaossilator and looping album Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:13:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:13:44 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 25, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Nico Spahni wrote: > The following link takes you to my most recent work "Sounds of > Kaoss" (no live looping): http://www.jamendo.com/album/30442 Hi I really liked track 5. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 16:34:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6C7C3BF0E; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <05b801c906c8$c1b3ed30$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> References: <05b801c906c8$c1b3ed30$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:34:49 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:34:57 +0000 (UTC) At 6:39 PM +0300 8/25/08, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > >i have been looking at boss gt10, vox tonelab for getting decent amp >tones with very good speaker simulation. then maybe i can get rid of >marshall and some of the mxr pedals. Okay, since we're talking about weight here, I'd throw in a recommendation for the Yamaha MagicStomp. Yeah, it's not as good at amp emulation as the Tonelab, but it's lacking is mainly "genuine tube" tones, and you don't seem to have those now. The quality of it's modulation/delay capabilities are fantastic, though, and it's not nearly 1/3 the size of the Vox or the GT. You could conceivably get rid of most of your distortion and MXR pedals right there. Oh, and since Yamaha blew them out at ~$100, you can still find them used in the $50-150 range. Super cheap for a multi-effect like that. >also the cables and adapters weigh sometimes more than the weight of >the units! is there anything like very light cables and adapters? :) Oh boy, I started becoming obsessive about this a couple of years ago when I was rebuilding a rack and noticed the same thing -- the cables alone weighed more than the gear + rack. So, here are a few tips I've tried: First: short, short, short. Get the absolute shortest size of every cable you can get away with. Every extra inch is more weight that you don't need. Just make sure it's not so short that it's putting stress on your gear's jacks. Next, for racks and otherwise "protected" areas, do you *really* need those heavy-duty stomp-proof cable plugs? Sure, they're rugged and will never break. But they also add weight, and for an area (like the inside of a rack) that is going to be wired up and otherwise sheltered, this could be overkill. MIDI cables, in particular, are subject to this clause. As long as you're going to be using them in a protected "set & forget" system (i.e. not plugging and unplugging them a lot) the cheap/light plastic-ended things work fine. As far as "light" cables go, I picked up a few sets of Roland manufactured patch cables a couple years back. They're about 3 inches with plastic elbow-shaped ends, but they're actually pretty good quality, all things considered. They're about the lightest I've come across, too, but not so easy to find anymore. Additionally, the configuration for "George L's" cables is actually pretty light. The advantage here too is that not only are the cables relatively weight-free and high-quality, but you can cut them to the exact length you need. Disadvantages are that they're pretty expensive, and getting the @#$%! ends properly attached can be a craft all unto itself. And I mentioned MIDI, but don't forget your power cables too. You can find replacement power cables for most standard cord types, in a variety of lengths and configurations. I'll often replace all my two or three meter power cables with six- or twelve- inch power patch cables run into a three or four jack mult. If you go scope out the electrical section of your local hardware emporium, you're likely to find one of these that's designed to pop onto the end of an industrial extension cord (i.e. it's got no cable, or only a short section of one). If you terminate your power into one of these, you can probably do away with packing a central power cable altogether, and pick up one for ten bucks at a hardware store at your final destination. Finally, wall warts. See if you can get a central power system for your stomps. Both the Godlyke and One-Spot systems are cheap and light. But you may find that a more versatile, yet heavier, box -- like the Voodoo Labs Pedal Power series, or similar -- is worth the extra cash but still lighter than a box of wall warts. I just got a little Guyatone power brick that works well (six jacks, plus sag capability for interesting "power-starved" distortions) and is pretty light, but I don't know if it's available outside Japan yet. If worse comes to worse (and I'll get flamed for this -- deservedly -- because it's environmentally irresponsible) go back to battery power. But leave your batteries at your house, buy new ones at your destination, then chuck those before you get back on the plane home (you won't believe how much batteries weigh en masse). Anyway, hope some of that helps, and good luck. :) --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 16:44:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 922053BF0F; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=2sb42upIF62OiiSC/FSHeQiW5ERcorKFvFxVzwE0NBXiilVZYfCNB+9MpNUn+wnuRz+ekbKXLqW++R1SeTpb8SMgl8VInS7pJVr/ymX8IX2KjEHsYDGSJ3kbCQ1xY9fCCYlfXQPElYMvUFcK3DCf/d2f62NuyHhmwtBrtXbraQc= ; X-YMail-OSG: kg7Rw1gVM1nFSyTks6lisvTCU2F_p1MPQfqOoczYTwj0cup1uV8235AzaqHnTl.UB7RYbwjnkAmgfEzF7mLBOwzA3T3aCy_Ah.8a1mGGla7j2jvDtHQTsJ7OGTW92Cg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <05b801c906c8$c1b3ed30$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-857296501 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:44:24 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:44:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-857296501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed The amp models on logic are the best i've tried - really responsive Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 25 Aug 2008, at 17:34, Mech wrote: > At 6:39 PM +0300 8/25/08, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: >> >> i have been looking at boss gt10, vox tonelab for getting decent >> amp tones with very good speaker simulation. then maybe i can get >> rid of marshall and some of the mxr pedals. > > Okay, since we're talking about weight here, I'd throw in a > recommendation for the Yamaha MagicStomp. Yeah, it's not as good > at amp emulation as the Tonelab, but it's lacking is mainly > "genuine tube" tones, and you don't seem to have those now. The > quality of it's modulation/delay capabilities are fantastic, > though, and it's not nearly 1/3 the size of the Vox or the GT. You > could conceivably get rid of most of your distortion and MXR pedals > right there. > > Oh, and since Yamaha blew them out at ~$100, you can still find > them used in the $50-150 range. Super cheap for a multi-effect > like that. > >> also the cables and adapters weigh sometimes more than the weight >> of the units! is there anything like very light cables and >> adapters? :) > > Oh boy, I started becoming obsessive about this a couple of years > ago when I was rebuilding a rack and noticed the same thing -- the > cables alone weighed more than the gear + rack. So, here are a few > tips I've tried: > > First: short, short, short. Get the absolute shortest size of > every cable you can get away with. Every extra inch is more weight > that you don't need. Just make sure it's not so short that it's > putting stress on your gear's jacks. > > Next, for racks and otherwise "protected" areas, do you *really* > need those heavy-duty stomp-proof cable plugs? Sure, they're > rugged and will never break. But they also add weight, and for an > area (like the inside of a rack) that is going to be wired up and > otherwise sheltered, this could be overkill. MIDI cables, in > particular, are subject to this clause. As long as you're going to > be using them in a protected "set & forget" system (i.e. not > plugging and unplugging them a lot) the cheap/light plastic-ended > things work fine. > > As far as "light" cables go, I picked up a few sets of Roland > manufactured patch cables a couple years back. They're about 3 > inches with plastic elbow-shaped ends, but they're actually pretty > good quality, all things considered. They're about the lightest > I've come across, too, but not so easy to find anymore. > Additionally, the configuration for "George L's" cables is actually > pretty light. The advantage here too is that not only are the > cables relatively weight-free and high-quality, but you can cut > them to the exact length you need. Disadvantages are that they're > pretty expensive, and getting the @#$%! ends properly attached can > be a craft all unto itself. > > And I mentioned MIDI, but don't forget your power cables too. You > can find replacement power cables for most standard cord types, in > a variety of lengths and configurations. I'll often replace all my > two or three meter power cables with six- or twelve- inch power > patch cables run into a three or four jack mult. If you go scope > out the electrical section of your local hardware emporium, you're > likely to find one of these that's designed to pop onto the end of > an industrial extension cord (i.e. it's got no cable, or only a > short section of one). If you terminate your power into one of > these, you can probably do away with packing a central power cable > altogether, and pick up one for ten bucks at a hardware store at > your final destination. > > Finally, wall warts. See if you can get a central power system for > your stomps. Both the Godlyke and One-Spot systems are cheap and > light. But you may find that a more versatile, yet heavier, box -- > like the Voodoo Labs Pedal Power series, or similar -- is worth the > extra cash but still lighter than a box of wall warts. I just got > a little Guyatone power brick that works well (six jacks, plus sag > capability for interesting "power-starved" distortions) and is > pretty light, but I don't know if it's available outside Japan > yet. If worse comes to worse (and I'll get flamed for this -- > deservedly -- because it's environmentally irresponsible) go back > to battery power. But leave your batteries at your house, buy new > ones at your destination, then chuck those before you get back on > the plane home (you won't believe how much batteries weigh en masse). > > Anyway, hope some of that helps, and good luck. :) > > --m. > -- > _____ > "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" > --Apple-Mail-3-857296501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 The amp models on logic are the best i've tried - really = responsive

    Matt = Stevens
    www.mattstevensguitar.com




    On 25 Aug 2008, = at 17:34, Mech wrote:

    At 6:39 PM +0300 8/25/08, Erdem Helvacioglu = wrote:

    i have been looking at boss = gt10, vox tonelab for getting decent amp tones with very good speaker = simulation. then maybe i can get rid of marshall and some of the mxr = pedals.
    Okay, since we're talking about = weight here, I'd throw in a recommendation for the Yamaha = MagicStomp.=A0 Yeah, it's = not as good at amp emulation as the Tonelab, but it's lacking is mainly = "genuine tube" tones, and you don't seem to have those now.=A0 The quality of it's = modulation/delay capabilities are fantastic, though, and it's not nearly = 1/3 the size of the Vox or the GT.=A0= You could conceivably get rid of most of your distortion and MXR = pedals right there.
    Oh, and since Yamaha blew them = out at ~$100, you can still find them used in the $50-150 range.=A0 Super cheap for a = multi-effect like that.

    also the = cables and adapters weigh sometimes more than the weight of the units! = is there anything like very light cables and adapters? :)
    =

    Oh boy, I started becoming obsessive about this a = couple of years ago when I was rebuilding a rack and noticed the same = thing -- the cables alone weighed more than the gear + rack.=A0 So, here are a few tips I've = tried:

    First: short, short, short.=A0 Get the absolute shortest = size of every cable you can get away with.=A0 Every extra inch is more = weight that you don't need.=A0 = Just make sure it's not so short that it's putting stress on your = gear's jacks.

    Next, for racks and otherwise "protected" areas, do = you *really* need those heavy-duty stomp-proof cable plugs?=A0 Sure, they're rugged and will = never break.=A0 But they = also add weight, and for an area (like the inside of a rack) that is = going to be wired up and otherwise sheltered, this could be = overkill.=A0 MIDI cables, = in particular, are subject to this clause.=A0 As long as you're going to be = using them in a protected "set & forget" system (i.e. not plugging = and unplugging them a lot) the cheap/light plastic-ended things work = fine.

    As far as "light" cables go, I picked up a few sets = of Roland manufactured patch cables a couple years back.=A0 They're about 3 inches with = plastic elbow-shaped ends, but they're actually pretty good quality, all = things considered.=A0 = They're about the lightest I've come across, too, but not so easy = to find anymore.=A0 = Additionally, the configuration for "George L's" cables is = actually pretty light.=A0 = The advantage here too is that not only are the cables relatively = weight-free and high-quality, but you can cut them to the exact length = you need.=A0 Disadvantages = are that they're pretty expensive, and getting the @#$%! ends properly = attached can be a craft all unto itself.

    And I = mentioned MIDI, but don't forget your power cables too.=A0 You can find replacement = power cables for most standard cord types, in a variety of lengths and = configurations.=A0 I'll = often replace all my two or three meter power cables with six- or = twelve- inch power patch cables run into a three or four jack mult.=A0 If you go scope out the = electrical section of your local hardware emporium, you're likely to = find one of these that's designed to pop onto the end of an industrial = extension cord (i.e. it's got no cable, or only a short section of = one).=A0 If you terminate = your power into one of these, you can probably do away with packing a = central power cable altogether, and pick up one for ten bucks at a = hardware store at your final destination.

    Finally, wall = warts.=A0 See if you can = get a central power system for your stomps.=A0 Both the Godlyke and One-Spot = systems are cheap and light.=A0 = But you may find that a more versatile, yet heavier, box -- like = the Voodoo Labs Pedal Power series, or similar -- is worth the extra = cash but still lighter than a box of wall warts.=A0 I just got a little Guyatone = power brick that works well (six jacks, plus sag capability for = interesting "power-starved" distortions) and is pretty light, but I = don't know if it's available outside Japan yet.=A0 If worse comes to worse (and = I'll get flamed for this -- deservedly -- because it's environmentally = irresponsible) go back to battery power. But leave your batteries at = your house, buy new ones at your destination, then chuck those before = you get back on the plane home (you won't believe how much batteries = weigh en masse).

    Anyway, hope some of that helps, and good luck.=A0 :)

    = --m.
    --=A0
    "we're no longer sure where home = is; homesickness is our only guide"


    = --Apple-Mail-3-857296501-- From johnben08@hosanna.net Mon Aug 25 17:36:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from qb-out-1314.google.com (qb-out-1314.google.com [72.14.204.171]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142BC3BF0A for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qb-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z21so2521865qbc.26 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.36.8 with SMTP id j8mr6928874ebj.168.1219685757147; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.90.16 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <74ccc7030808251035x81212c0j6bf2a30872b698e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:35:57 +0200 From: "john ben" Subject: CONTACT Fedex Courier Company LTD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_112335_20728067.1219685757137" To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=_Part_112335_20728067.1219685757137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello my Dear friend, Good day. How are you today? My name is MrJohn Ben I am writing to inform you that I have Paid the registration fee for your cheque which has been with me for a long time. And I went to the bank to confirm if the draft has expired or getting near to expire and Mr. Justin Yayi the Director Bank of Africa told me that before the cheque will get to your hand that it will expire. So I told him to cash the $1.2 million united state dollarsS to cash payment to avoid losing this funds under expiration. However, all the necessary arrangement for delivering the $1.2 million united state dollars in cash was made with FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC here in Cotonou Benin Republic, Mr.Justin Yayi the Director of Bank of Africa Cotonou has package the sum of $1.2 million USD in cash for you. Then he also help me to Register the Consignment with FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC Infact I thank God very much for all the movement I made, every thing went normally. As for our agreement with the FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC they promised that your consignment will leave this Country on or before 5 days from now, But the Director of the FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC said that they need your contacts information's to enable them meet up with you immediately the Diplomat Agents arrived in your Country. Please write a letter of application to the given E- mail address below. ATTN:DR.Smith Ume Email: fedexcouriercompanyplc1242@ubbi.com Tel +22998-698-996 please Send them your contacts information to enable them locate you immediately they arrived in your country with your BOX This is what they need from you. 1.YOUR FULL NAME 2.YOUR COUNTRY 3.YOUR HOME DELIVERY ADDRESS. 4.YOUR CURRENT HOME TELEPHONE NUMBER. 5.YOUR CURRENT OFFICE TELEPHONE. 6 YOUR CURRENT CELL PHONE 7.A COPY OF YOUR PICTURE Please make sure you send this needed information to the Director general of FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC DR.Smith Ume with the address given to you. Note this. Courrier Service Company don't know the contents of the Box. I registered it as a BOX of Africa cloths. They did not know the contents was money. this is to avoid them delaying with the BOX. Dont let them know that the box contents was money ok. I am waiting for your urgent response. You can even call the Director of FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC with this line: Tel +22-998-698-996 Below is the Deposit details: Deposit Number: PLCC-101-PL45 Sort/Clearance Code: PLC/101-45/P50 Deposit Certificate N0.: 405576 Consignment Description: 1 BOX of Africa cloths Depositor: Mr. Smith Ume Thanks and Remain Blessed. Regards. MrJohn Ben ------=_Part_112335_20728067.1219685757137 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    Hello my Dear  friend,
     
    Good day. How are you today? My name is MrJohn Ben I am writing to inform you that I have Paid the registration fee for your cheque which has been with me for a long time. And I went to the bank to confirm if the draft has expired or getting near to expire and Mr. Justin Yayi the Director Bank of Africa told me that before the cheque will get to your hand that it will expire. So I told him to cash the $1.2 million united state dollarsS to cash payment to avoid losing this funds under expiration.
     
    However, all the necessary arrangement for delivering the $1.2 million united state dollars in cash was made with FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC here in Cotonou Benin Republic, Mr.Justin Yayi the Director of Bank of Africa Cotonou has package the sum of $1.2 million USD in cash for you.
     
    Then he also help me to Register the Consignment with FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC Infact I thank God very much for all the movement I made, every thing went normally. As for our agreement with the FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC they promised that your consignment will leave this Country on or before 5 days from now, But the Director of the FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC said that they need your contacts information's to enable them meet up with you immediately the Diplomat Agents arrived in your Country.
     
    Please write a letter of application to the given E- mail address below.
     
    ATTN:DR.Smith Ume
    Email:  fedexcouriercompanyplc1242@ubbi.com
    Tel +22998-698-996
          
     
    please Send them your contacts information to enable them locate you immediately they arrived in your country with your BOX This is what they need from you.
     
    1.YOUR FULL NAME
    2.YOUR COUNTRY
    3.YOUR HOME DELIVERY ADDRESS.
    4.YOUR CURRENT HOME TELEPHONE NUMBER.
    5.YOUR CURRENT OFFICE TELEPHONE.
    6 YOUR CURRENT CELL PHONE
    7.A COPY OF YOUR PICTURE
     
    Please make sure you send this needed information to the Director general of FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC DR.Smith Ume with the address given to you.
    Note this. Courrier Service Company don't know the contents of the Box. I registered it as a BOX of Africa cloths. They  did not know the contents was money. this is to avoid them delaying with the BOX.
     
    Dont let them know that the box contents was money ok. I am waiting for your urgent response. You can even call the Director of FEDEX EXPRESS COURIER PLC with this line: Tel +22-998-698-996
     
    Below is the Deposit details:
    Deposit Number: PLCC-101-PL45
    Sort/Clearance Code: PLC/101-45/P50
    Deposit Certificate N0.: 405576
    Consignment Description: 1 BOX of Africa cloths
    Depositor: Mr. Smith Ume
     
    Thanks and Remain Blessed.
    Regards.
    MrJohn Ben

     

    ------=_Part_112335_20728067.1219685757137-- From okechimoffice@hosanna.net Mon Aug 25 18:18:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from qb-out-1314.google.com (qb-out-1314.google.com [72.14.204.171]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C85E3BF0A for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qb-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z21so2542956qbc.26 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.169.1 with SMTP id w1mr3071241muo.107.1219688285334; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.119.1 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:18:05 +0200 From: "office file" Subject: Contact APEX COURIER SERVICE For Your Bank Draft! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_93065_7815057.1219688285308" To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=_Part_93065_7815057.1219688285308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline *Dear Freind, Greetings to you & your Family. I have been waiting for you since to contact me for your Confirmable Bank Draft of $2.3MILLION United States Dollars, but I did not hear from you since that time ,Then I went and deposited the Draft with APEX Global Security Company Cotonou Benin Republic before I travelled out of the country for a short Course and i will not come back till end of next Month. * *What you have to do now is to contact the APEX Global Security Company as soon as possible to know when they will deliver your package to you because of the expiring date.For your information, I have paid for the delivering Charges,showing that it is not a Drug Money nor to sponsor Terrorist attack in your Country,The only money you will send to the Courier & Security Company to deliver your Draft direct to your postal Address in your country is ($283.00) only being their Security Keeping Fee of the Courier Company so far. Again, I would have paid that but they said no because they don't know when you will contact them and in case of demurrage.You have to contact the APEX Global Security Company now for the delivery of your PACKAGE with this information bellow. Managing Director of APEX Global Security Company Benin Republic. CONTACT PERSON;REV.STANLY UBAH E-MAIL:(apex_dispatch.unitbenin.republic@live.fr) PHONE NUMBER +229-97 563 507. Provide to them your registration NO.of your package. Registration No; Eg2272 Code Number::01721457 Finally, make sure that you reconfirm your Postal address and Direct telephone number to them again to avoid any mistake on the Delivery and Let me repeat again,try to contact them as soon as you receive this mail to avoid any further delay and remember to pay them th eir Security Keeping fee of $283.00 for their immediate action.You should also Let me know through e mail as soon as you receive your package. Note. The APEX Global Security Company don't know the contents of the Box. I registered it as a Box of an Africa cloths. They don't know it contents money. this is to avoid them delaying with the Box. don't let them know what is contains. I am waiting for your urgent response. You can even call the Managing Director of APEX Global Security Company, REV.STANLY UBAH with this line +229-97 563 507. Yours Faithfully, Mr Usman John. * ** ------=_Part_93065_7815057.1219688285308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    Dear Freind,
     
    Greetings to you & your Family.
     
    I have been waiting for you since to contact me for your Confirmable Bank Draft of $2.3MILLION United States Dollars, but I did not hear from you since that time ,Then I went and deposited the Draft with APEX Global Security Company Cotonou Benin Republic before I travelled out of the country for a short Course and i will not come back till end of next Month.
     

    What you have to do now is to contact the APEX Global Security Company as soon as possible to know when they will deliver your package to you because of the expiring date.For your information, I have paid for the delivering Charges,showing that it is not a Drug Money nor to sponsor Terrorist attack in your Country,The only money you will send to the Courier & Security Company to deliver your Draft direct to your postal Address in your country is ($283.00) only being their Security Keeping Fee of the Courier Company so far.
     
    Again, I would have paid that but they said no because they don't know when you will contact them and in case of demurrage.You have to contact the APEX Global Security Company now for the delivery of your PACKAGE with this information bellow. Managing Director of APEX Global Security Company Benin Republic.
     
    CONTACT PERSON;REV.STANLY UBAH
    E-MAIL:(apex_dispatch.unitbenin.republic@live.fr)
    PHONE NUMBER  +229-97 563 507.
     
    Provide to them your registration NO.of your package.
    Registration No; Eg2272
    Code Number::01721457
     
    Finally, make sure that you reconfirm your Postal address and Direct telephone number to them again to avoid any mistake on the Delivery and Let me repeat again,try to contact them as soon as you receive this mail to avoid any further delay and remember to pay them th eir Security Keeping fee of $283.00 for their immediate action.You should also Let me know through e mail as soon as you receive your package.
     
    Note. The APEX Global Security Company don't know the contents of the Box. I registered it as a Box of an Africa cloths. They don't know it contents money. this is to avoid them delaying with the Box. don't let them know what is contains.
     
    I am waiting for your urgent response. You can even call the Managing Director of APEX Global Security Company, REV.STANLY UBAH with this line +229-97 563 507.
     
    Yours Faithfully,
    Mr Usman John.
     
     

     

    ------=_Part_93065_7815057.1219688285308-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 20:02:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09E783BF06; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:02:14 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=imH0s3bzm3fQzXzfjSCBbFY6aymHRxxzU7oe79PMEctvIlJojmy9COOABzRbWUKnxx9YDDlV7XnErk9wI6wVOfCL1PmUR3K5XdCIWPrFcdT3G0UhB13sLRhHkSky8gzElcT3MXs6cYpSJrybzoPS+1OLgCgaqx9XS2upRJ+Y2W0=; X-YMail-OSG: mr5LG1sVM1lWmtCtkg6CTR51aayP8kJgdkCG84D_w89tgWNey4kX1At2oSA3QhRszuJ9vXxDcofUHdU9jw4Qwa2akaszSDNtMq4hjQEicr6ZbVwyet6eFUAJBSya0OTetJA- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:55:33 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Reply-To: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: simplify guitar rig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080825164437.ECCA33BF16@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1324282035-1219694133=:10901" Message-ID: <579736.10901.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:02:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-1324282035-1219694133=:10901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii dear Erdem- wow that is quite a setup! a few yrs ago i used to play through a 4-space rack setup (looper +3 multi-effects), and then in front of it i had a bunch of pedals, it was quite a setup, and mine was relatively cheap-mostly used, old gear, etc. i liked the sound of it and all, but one day i realized i had no space on my desk where i recorded, so i started to downsize and it took me awhile. i just play at home, but if i had to haul around all that gear, i would have gotten rid of it A LOT QUICKER!!! my setup now is: gtr-zoom g2-digitech rp150-ibanez delay (DE-something, it has 3 sec of delay)-behringer tweakilzer-boss rc-20-out to either my small tube amp or direct for recording (which i'm doing less and less of lately....) my setup i think allows me to get all the weird sound i used to be able to get and takes up much less space. both the g2 and rp150 have some good odd effects that in combo make for some interesting sounds i think the main thing is to figure out what you can do w/out. good luck. s--- --0-1324282035-1219694133=:10901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
    dear Erdem-
    wow that is quite a setup!
    a few yrs ago i used to play through a 4-space rack setup (looper +3 multi-effects), and then in front of it i had a bunch of pedals, it was quite a setup, and mine was relatively cheap-mostly used, old gear, etc.
    i liked the sound of it and all, but one day i realized i had no space on my desk where i recorded, so i started to downsize and it took me awhile.

    i just play at home, but if i had to haul around all that gear, i would have gotten rid of it A LOT QUICKER!!!
    my setup now is:
    gtr-zoom g2-digitech rp150-ibanez delay (DE-something, it has 3 sec of delay)-behringer tweakilzer-boss rc-20-out to either my small tube amp or direct for recording (which i'm doing less and less of lately....)

    my setup i think allows me to get all the weird sound i used to be able to get and takes up much less space. both the g2 and rp150 have some good odd effects that in combo make for some interesting sounds
    i think the main thing is to figure out what you can do w/out.
    good luck.
    s---

    --0-1324282035-1219694133=:10901-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 22:34:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B93CB3BF01; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=TVNalTbmCEhxphAveSQAT7ZMdXs72iv1q4A0Pyw80LFjRTfbHv5AhMK8SM9F7Xq2Ah9DPYQHs/OpLQOnDrzdrlD0GIPjR4EleYbBozB+EWxrYFCkC35I77Vx8l71DzZVnbWX++1Qsps+b798A7AmEN3zrKYDCsRJ/xqe4Y1Fr0M=; X-YMail-OSG: 0ExHY.gVM1kv7ORJCq8MlFuFmmEXhUOvXfdNIuHHqJKpakglebADhQTna92TiNmY8A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:34:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <665374.12136.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi Raul, Yes, it was absolutely hard to improvise to static pictures and images whic= h were being thrown at us at random without us knowing what would come and = how long they would remain on the screen! i remember suggesting that we do = it the other way around,pictures improvisation to our music because it woul= d interfere with the dynamics of our improvisations(which often did).but th= e other 2 guys (who dont loop) thought it would be more interesting this wa= y.For me it was really strange constantly looking at a screen while playing= my instument and dealing with all the gear to bring to improvise soemthing= that would fit the image and bring emotion to the static images being trea= ted with efx only,it was not relaxing at all.I remeber the sax player often= wispering at me as i was begining to lost myself in the music buiding a lo= op "luis the screen has changed";-).It felt like stopping abruptly before a= n orgasm;.) The funny thing is that at the end even though i was the only one looping and with the most equipment the other musicians told me i= t was really exhausting for them as well;-))) so we all went and got drunk! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Raul Bonell wrote: > From: Raul Bonell > Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 > To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 7:15 AM > you all greatly aurally enhanced those clips ...it even > seemes to be a > connection beyond pure improvisation which is difficult to > achieve in > ensemble. >=20 > thanks Luis for sharing!, > ra=FCl. >=20 > 2008/8/23 L.A. Angulo >=20 > > Hi gang, > > Our experimental performance of "musica > Optica" last year at the Radolfzell > > residenz Kino is now in youtube: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dxr3DEspTEDY > > > > Spontaneous Improvisations to images and pictures > > > > Rainer Dost -acoustic guitar,vox,percussion > > Luis Angulo-Electric Guitar,synths,drum > machine,harmonica,vox > > Volker Wagner- Sax > > > > cheers > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 22:41:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6D463BF04; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=DYEccolsAAAA:8 a=TdYfz6j5RDwg3GnNv0oA:9 a=gTZqi47FqF60BNzIXKLWeZzeKSgA:4 a=bLMadRSW978A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <6E05DED6-4BEE-41C1-BEF7-B6A2D73BC2D6@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: my looping on radio lab podcast Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:41:18 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:41:21 +0000 (UTC) a little while back i chatted and looped for jad abumrad for a Radio Lab podcast. even if you don't listen to the podcast, check out the show. it is my favorite radio program right now. here is is... http://blogs.wnyc.org/radiolab/2008/08/25/quantum-cello/ From aw-confirm@ebay.com Mon Aug 25 22:48:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from smarthost01.eng.net (smarthost01.eng.net [213.130.146.173]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C4D3BEF8 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dsl82-163-96-197.as15444.net ([82.163.96.197] helo=nigelcollisonfuels.co.uk) by smarthost01.eng.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1KXkrf-00042r-18; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:48:47 +0100 Received: from sales ([82.70.26.185]) by nigelcollisonfuels.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:31:26 +0100 From: "eBay" Subject: eBay Unpaid Item Strike Received 4059529933 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:31:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Aug 2008 17:31:27.0187 (UTC) FILETIME=[67424A30:01C906D8] To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 22:56:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B7763BF01; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Musica Optica 2007 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:56:30 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c90705$d0adece0$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <665374.12136.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Hey Luis, Respect my friend, it's not easy to come up with so many idea's in 9 minutes! :) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 23:14:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1090F3BEFB; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=XGw9zt_99q_cslT41lwA:9 a=T3g1RJCDAOrzlyfrYdMA:7 a=oMgQ_Qa98BrrOpPk9uUhiW5SZykA:4 a=39Mkji9fv_4A:10 a=qpkDFx5_dwCWzQVEkEQA:9 a=p-corXvUzXcFxWiR7kEA:7 a=dbx-XZrso6o4v7pNFygE9VYxefMA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <665374.12136.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <665374.12136.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-880672610 Message-Id: <3D7445D1-39FA-4E7C-AECA-FC3B14E9864E@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:14:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:14:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-880672610 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed very interesting! i like how this is the other way round: music to images. On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:34 PM, L.A. Angulo wrote: > Hi Raul, > Yes, it was absolutely hard to improvise to static pictures and > images which were being thrown at us at random without us knowing > what would come and how long they would remain on the screen! i > remember suggesting that we do it the other way around,pictures > improvisation to our music because it would interfere with the > dynamics of our improvisations(which often did).but the other 2 > guys (who dont loop) thought it would be more interesting this > way.For me it was really strange constantly looking at a screen > while playing my instument and dealing with all the gear to bring > to improvise soemthing that would fit the image and bring emotion > to the static images being treated with efx only,it was not > relaxing at all.I remeber the sax player often wispering at me as i > was begining to lost myself in the music buiding a loop "luis the > screen has changed";-).It felt like stopping abruptly before an > orgasm;.) The funny thing is that at the end even though i was the > only one looping and with the most equipment the other musicians > told me it was really exhausting for them as well;-))) so we all > went and got drunk! > Luis --Apple-Mail-1-880672610 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 very interesting! i like how = this is the other way round: music to = images.


    On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:34 PM, = L.A. Angulo wrote:

    Hi Raul,

    Yes, it was absolutely = hard to improvise to static pictures and images which were being thrown = at us at random without us knowing what would come and how long they = would remain on the screen! i remember suggesting that we do it the = other way around,pictures improvisation to our music because it would = interfere with the dynamics of our improvisations(which often did).but = the other 2 guys (who dont loop) thought it would be more interesting = this way.For me it was really strange constantly looking at a screen = while playing my instument and dealing with all the gear to bring to = improvise soemthing that would fit the image and bring emotion to the = static images being treated with efx only,it was not relaxing at all.I = remeber the sax player often wispering at me as i was begining to lost = myself in the music buiding a loop "luis the screen has changed";-).It = felt like stopping abruptly before an orgasm;.) The funny thing is that = at the end even though i was the

    =A0only= one looping and with the most equipment the other musicians told me it = was really exhausting for them as well;-))) so we all went and got = drunk!

    Luis


    = --Apple-Mail-1-880672610-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 23:18:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CE613BF02; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=LQASDixF4RQiuQNHuJyJ1gMTo1VFfi7jk9gQVmo72VE=; b=MqS6g8vR4vWX0YhAnC3eyIJtBECw+k2AMa2HUOSlUxA4bxQweYaUopCuwj499J8u+2 kDyaDbsbBRP0hZ/2aBFt56ly0QeG73QcYX1mLuo2IfnIr3rViQZmHz6H5NfTOLn/xxxg EsBBYFc4y5clt26zRTsRncI/tO6asVfVT1ksE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gEJAm8KaMRnYC/AML8xdYPKVOQF94BpVuaczU5d/80LJ3WyTEoeYYH4LJYZNtb8Y2I mkLuicMlBwswiUq+yf1nxRc92KuR2pQV+cIn15NkzUe9Kfb+r0s6nor8mcQkHf2pnti+ 5WSkVwTMr92rIG9G46Q4rdVHqQPQKeTM9uUdQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:18:43 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 In-Reply-To: <3D7445D1-39FA-4E7C-AECA-FC3B14E9864E@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_45509_22274438.1219706323656" References: <665374.12136.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3D7445D1-39FA-4E7C-AECA-FC3B14E9864E@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5doVuC.A.MCH.U3zsIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:18:44 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_45509_22274438.1219706323656 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was in a instrumental band that always played with video projections behind us. We could never see them at all (too close to the screen, too busy playing) and they were always randomly thrown up there by the video operator (three super-8 projectors, two slide projectors, lots of found images and film spliced together), and after every gig people would come up and ask how we synchronized the video and music so well. It was frequently hard to convince them that it was all random, since they were certain that the changes they saw and heard were planned out by us. There's a term for the mind's tendency to find these sort of connections where there aren't any, but I can't recall it right now. TH On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:14 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > very interesting! i like how this is the other way round: music to images. > > On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:34 PM, L.A. Angulo wrote: > > > ------=_Part_45509_22274438.1219706323656 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I was in a instrumental band that always played with video projections behind us.  We could never see them at all (too close to the screen, too busy playing) and they were always randomly thrown up there by the video operator (three super-8 projectors, two slide projectors, lots of found images and film spliced together), and after every gig people would come up and ask how we synchronized the video and music so well. 

    It was frequently hard to convince them that it was all random, since they were certain that the changes they saw and heard were planned out by us. 

    There's a term for the mind's tendency to find these sort of connections where there aren't any, but I can't recall it right now.

    TH

    On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:14 PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
    very interesting! i like how this is the other way round: music to images.


    On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:34 PM, L.A. Angulo wrote:



    ------=_Part_45509_22274438.1219706323656-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 23:21:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C434E3BF04; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=mwOoyV9UFpOw+DkRE0AYkBqA7xXohlHAGmQQymLlIlXuii3LktIGfv9dxfHxbjosnGT81swpECpX0YzePFASNEqvv9Ml6/FGb2zJBCxEk/Pgo8ndWbf9pG0fX1lYJu6P8b/Ko81gnCuSnD54fgpG+Hn806pF+v+k1b1a+xF54oQ=; X-YMail-OSG: l8.saeMVM1mOWEI.P4.kZlCjSxuUCZe8fdAFTR1Do4KlXoqcMlZoiRNZDj2uUIYbWbNazGwTuNBGmum2LoifUzZRW4o_880qrOrF6IRgosPWkOSOhj2Cd_OKPw36jds- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:21:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Line 6 M13 little review To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <536980.62128.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, just wanted to throw my 2 cents on this unit which i am trying out at the moment: Beare in mind that i cannot compare a lof of the modeled sounds and effects to the original ones because i was not lucky enough to have been an effect collector in the 60s and 70s, so my opinion is subjective(all you hippies are u listening?) I find the sounds with the exception of the the rotary speaker and some of the distortions quite good,i am impressed how good the univibe sounds compared to other digital units(and i own the mojovibe which i love) Fuzzboxes are cool i A/B the facia fuzz to my analog prescription electronics experience pedal and i could dial 99% of the sound.All of the delays are also very nice and to me sound better than the ones on the DL4.I dont collect vintage phasers or choruses that much but i do have an original boss CE-2 and the analog ones do a really good job.Reverbs are also decent enough.The analog synths well...you tell me. But what impressed me the most is how easy it is to operate it,i learned the unit very quickly without looking at the manual except how to save scenes!Looping is great and it doesnt interfere with your effects scene switching,ther is alway 4 efx in the upper row available, or just change back to a scene and you have all 12 available.The looper has a little flaw ,it makes a little click noise sometimes at the beginning of the loop so i hope that will be adressed.Otherwise you can pre or post the efxs for your loops which is a breeze to do.It also has more looping 28 sec (or 56 sec. in half speed mode) you can also control the volume of the loop,feedback and with a second exp pedal the pre or post loop efx which is really cool. It is a bit heavy not really sure how much (perhaps 10.2 lbs) but feels very sturdy. Things that are missing-pitch shifting,a good wah,octave with poly mode like the boss one or something like the POG but it has sends and returns which work great for your boutique beauties.It takes a bit getting used to to the scene philosophy but i actually like it better than the bank scrolling. So in my opinion this unit rocks and like it better and is cheaper than the TC nova system.I think line6 has done a great job on this one! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Richardndudi12@gmail.com Mon Aug 25 23:27:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 35302 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:27:59 UTC Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13D43BEFB; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (mwinf2114 [10.232.7.42]) by mwinf2105.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 45DE31C26A35; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:39:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from User (unknown [81.91.228.226]) by mwinf2114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9E6A81C000B9; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:39:17 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080825133917648.9E6A81C000B9@mwinf2114.orange.fr Reply-To: From: "Barr.Richard Ndudi." 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 23:29:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 242BE3BF0E; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:29:50 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=G3sCkgmLK0cgz1X5h2Z1zKEBbcBCwBwW48kViDln1NI=; b=hX0M0Gakddez8iANjO2KPiDAGaxndYnRIFztv2z1qTofJpXZ3j8YUelUPbBQS+0QB6 2bTGSaf4AsvvGpFb3isQnO959Fbzz4p8kJGX/GiC9usgkzmevVQCoquEAfGo+LxIZayQ kFCI+7bpkjmMtNu1PeY93U/35ZBvtcVLScvbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZYiRwWEyJVVjmlSfdi+tZi7B8XX9XLgP/4f4cxe88hpM602hIhCEIosNsb+2i7+k1m 7JnvZnn1jHvb+GQvafS6DaVdmSFiHr9uX5sR7bl+zkI+347nlli4G02xWrWsZjxOL0b2 +KCKzxEhWXAe0yGauTRpIaoJcKRyYLyZUnY7c= Message-ID: <37f071c00808251623g184e31b9h6db835ea2bb269d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:23:09 -0700 From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_86342_8963926.1219706590280" References: <665374.12136.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3D7445D1-39FA-4E7C-AECA-FC3B14E9864E@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:29:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_86342_8963926.1219706590280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was running projections for a friend's band for a while and both times we projected Harry Smith's Abstractions behind the band (they could never see the projections) the music they were playing moved to another level all together. It was very strange and quite tangible. Something in the sound just gelled and you could feel the energy of the music change. And what was stranger still was that when the piece ended, the music changed again and felt very different than what they had been playing previously. Good stuff. Music and visual art can be a magical combination. Kevin On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > I was in a instrumental band that always played with video projections > behind us. We could never see them at all (too close to the screen, too > busy playing) and they were always randomly thrown up there by the video > operator (three super-8 projectors, two slide projectors, lots of found > images and film spliced together), and after every gig people would come up > and ask how we synchronized the video and music so well. > > It was frequently hard to convince them that it was all random, since they > were certain that the changes they saw and heard were planned out by us. > > There's a term for the mind's tendency to find these sort of connections > where there aren't any, but I can't recall it right now. > > TH > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:14 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > >> very interesting! i like how this is the other way round: music to images. >> >> On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:34 PM, L.A. Angulo wrote: >> >> >> > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_Part_86342_8963926.1219706590280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I was running projections for a friend's band for a while and both times we projected Harry Smith's Abstractions behind the band (they could never see the projections) the music they were playing moved to another level all together.  It was very strange and quite tangible.  Something in the sound just gelled and you could feel the energy of the music change.  And what was stranger still was that when the piece ended, the music changed again and felt very different than what they had been playing previously.

    Good stuff.  Music and visual art can be a magical combination.

    Kevin

    On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com> wrote:
    I was in a instrumental band that always played with video projections behind us.  We could never see them at all (too close to the screen, too busy playing) and they were always randomly thrown up there by the video operator (three super-8 projectors, two slide projectors, lots of found images and film spliced together), and after every gig people would come up and ask how we synchronized the video and music so well. 

    It was frequently hard to convince them that it was all random, since they were certain that the changes they saw and heard were planned out by us. 

    There's a term for the mind's tendency to find these sort of connections where there aren't any, but I can't recall it right now.

    TH

    On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:14 PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
    very interesting! i like how this is the other way round: music to images.


    On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:34 PM, L.A. Angulo wrote:






    --

    Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
    form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

    - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

    Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org
    ------=_Part_86342_8963926.1219706590280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 23:31:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C36A83BF13; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60511.69.73.1219707085.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:31:25 -0400 (AST) Subject: audio to midi vst plugins From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm seriously thinking of going the software route as much as possible and was wondering ifanyone using these in their setup? Is the tracking any good? What about melodyne? Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 23:41:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 668713BEFF; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48B34316.1070502@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:41:10 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 References: <665374.12136.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3D7445D1-39FA-4E7C-AECA-FC3B14E9864E@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:41:15 +0000 (UTC) A connecting principle? Linked to the invisible? Almost imperceptible? Something inexpressible? Science insusceptible? Logic so inflexible? Causally connectable? Nothing is invincible? ask the Stingmeister... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > There's a term for the mind's tendency to find these sort of > connections where there aren't any, but I can't recall it right now. > > TH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Aug 25 23:52:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45FBF3BF02; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: Musica Optica 2007 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:52:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C906E3.AC305000" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckHCP4KDM+MHhEoQtqixZsP+GJQpgAA/35g Message-Id: <20080825235211.D61603BEE0@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:52:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C906E3.AC305000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think you are correct in this. I've played an annual mountaintop concert for several consecutive years. In 2006 and 2007, thunderstorms approached during my set with very visible lightning (closing the event early in both cases) that reached a peak during a Lowebow solo piece. From both years, I had numerous comments stating that I'd done a great job of synchronizing my solo with the lightning. Since we all know this is impossible, it's clear that the tendency you mention was in effect. dave I was in a instrumental band that always played with video projections behind us. We could never see them at all (too close to the screen, too busy playing) and they were always randomly thrown up there by the video operator (three super-8 projectors, two slide projectors, lots of found images and film spliced together), and after every gig people would come up and ask how we synchronized the video and music so well. It was frequently hard to convince them that it was all random, since they were certain that the changes they saw and heard were planned out by us. There's a term for the mind's tendency to find these sort of connections where there aren't any, but I can't recall it right now. TH ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C906E3.AC305000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    I think you are correct in = this.  I’ve played an annual mountaintop concert for several consecutive = years.  In 2006 and 2007, thunderstorms approached during my set with very visible lightning (closing the event early in both cases) that reached a peak = during a Lowebow solo piece.  From both years, I had numerous comments = stating that I’d done a great job of synchronizing my solo with the = lightning.  Since we all know this is impossible, it’s clear that the tendency = you mention was in effect.

     

    dave

     

     

    I was in a = instrumental band that always played with video projections behind us.  We could = never see them at all (too close to the screen, too busy playing) and they = were always randomly thrown up there by the video operator (three super-8 = projectors, two slide projectors, lots of found images and film spliced together), = and after every gig people would come up and ask how we synchronized the = video and music so well. 

    It was frequently hard to convince them that it was all random, since = they were certain that the changes they saw and heard were planned out by = us. 

    There's a term for the mind's tendency to find these sort of connections = where there aren't any, but I can't recall it right now.

    TH

     

     

     

    ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C906E3.AC305000-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 00:00:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5388A3BEFF; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3958 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:00:58 UTC Message-ID: <14C91FA1B2F1499AA53FD8FE32D2A5FB@MichaelPC> From: To: References: <6E05DED6-4BEE-41C1-BEF7-B6A2D73BC2D6@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <6E05DED6-4BEE-41C1-BEF7-B6A2D73BC2D6@zoekeating.com> Subject: Maybe OT--editing of film Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:54:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Saw a great special the other day on how movies changed when editing came along. How cutting from this and that was able to elicit feeling better than just a big screen "home movie". My question to this esteemed group is: Is there a parallel to this in music? can we experience different "locations" in music in the same piece? I seem to think that classical music does this with various movements but is this really equivalent? Have other artists pursued this question (I assume some more minimalists have). ~peace~ Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.myspace.com/michaelplishka www.myspace.com/bohdanovich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 00:05:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 097453BF06; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=tzy92Tk1BtTRBwLtJANsvxpW0ReI0Lh/Q8ySzUqg9Us=; b=ihz5sYDlSHv3VljyzpW2kpDCPgxgDmqFCKBVVHzhJCEt7SEePf/jiHpRyw39je732w WjfeWzjuhoeN9LxKZCsDmH9AItWr925Bz4njDvXSyCmHs7ZKZYrUn5SqaL3+w6LRg2u1 Vi+4+UxP1IaRRXua9jXmCb5d+r071W9gqAEl0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=iuxWjhIZoCrcxl7HC17flHj7Eql0LNnkHN7jsZnAoJcvVXp4SAaqr7g5xzC1U6H8vF xcQaVl3mGKswjNbgDjnw+t9+JHj3HAoshk8OtDWwsC2D+fTu78MReXUo40kom+grHh52 zYD4e6abgYjxLz2P3FfO0KAK46gqrFKZ8X23I= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <665374.12136.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3D7445D1-39FA-4E7C-AECA-FC3B14E9864E@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <177CE37D-ECAD-41BB-B63A-B15B1522EC30@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:05:27 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <4glkkC.A.0d.Mj0sIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:05:32 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 25, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > There's a term for the mind's tendency to find these sort of > connections where there aren't any, but I can't recall it right now. Perhaps apophenia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 00:20:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 010E13BF01; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qid86XM3AAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=oNMPWZgiNAd3Ywla36gA:9 a=9FsfCtiGXOZCN3EglqimZ1nB_UUA:4 a=72oxJoRhc8oA:10 In-Reply-To: <60511.69.73.1219707085.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <60511.69.73.1219707085.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: audio to midi vst plugins Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:20:14 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Melodyne is the industry standard, by far. But this is really only =20 for studio stuff as latency and accuracy issues make it unusable for =20 live work. On Aug 25, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Andr=E9 Donawa wrote: > Hi, > > I'm seriously thinking of going the software route as much as =20 > possible and > was wondering ifanyone using these in their setup? > Is the tracking any good? > What about melodyne? > > Andre > > > > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 01:00:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4BBD3BEF8; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 931112.42092.bm@omp111.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=aV76/CRXEU0RHyRPyTKvfyAyHnqdHBtl3imWYYIzV0C3SRFvN9KvDeBJm2fzIhcF8f7Lbw3U0wM/wxWRZdY5xjR1ZVxZq1cPjangGT9oxX7bvOPk2u+c+KoU5yvFXObTvY+Tg936RDf27vNHkbTJsQClquEp0xDtXyU55sFEmNo=; X-YMail-OSG: ywkbdhUVM1kg_ikjYMTrDDRoQhVgxiFw3z_5L46h3toGv0zkQFUMPqOzCjjD5vY866y66v8g8ToHjYjstmMmakdhmHQ4vCjaFrpA6dgoGa2Hn82Dz_DV8RqKFSmfG_Z.MZRHppdQQZxMkV2jy8PbK0qg X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:59:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: my looping on radio lab podcast To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6E05DED6-4BEE-41C1-BEF7-B6A2D73BC2D6@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <968659.20817.qm@web45305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:00:14 +0000 (UTC) I caught Radio Lab's outstanding 'War of the Worlds' broadcast 4 or 5 months ago and remember at the very end of the show thinking "Hey, that cello sounds like Zoe Keating!", about ten seconds before they gave you a nice plug! -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Mon, 8/25/08, info at zoekeating wrote: > From: info at zoekeating > Subject: my looping on radio lab podcast > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 6:41 PM > a little while back i chatted and looped for jad abumrad for > a Radio > Lab podcast. > even if you don't listen to the podcast, check out the > show. it is my > favorite radio program right now. > > here is is... > > http://blogs.wnyc.org/radiolab/2008/08/25/quantum-cello/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 01:04:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 675D83BF06; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=VUEn7SLjBn1eT6xcctpphOt5HkVqT5UFeCwbsERplMXH6PR6F+YUD0jSCrQiNxtzBtRQ4EMtc2isqccnarVtCmmXJtkhEZwYRG/jcprA59U0oxbwMLWtsA3hYRw8paHK4deLORxqEnEJf8POI8qLM6y8V5szSf/Mf7GFkWNIInM=; X-YMail-OSG: jrJz3dsVM1n3p9obIY1Bu5841anO2jYyUwAUPXJ5Eb.ZnknoHYe71Ea6XHM7x646Ck1frcOgeFhJpCdCvdLiJi_PDrDravsZyhYLOlu1zNb2vHqow7PtIZJanNjydQoF1hK413DrBdENA6yolCJPEFY- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:04:39 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: billbigrig@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Maybe OT--editing of film To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <14C91FA1B2F1499AA53FD8FE32D2A5FB@MichaelPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <995654.57654.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, A big definate YES! When I was in junior high, the band teacher gave a presentation to ALL 7th graders. He played a piece by Glinka. I envisioned a frolicking chase through a forest. Different sections of the piece made scenes in my head of different parts of a forest. Dense trees, a downhiil run along a stone path through sparce trees, a splash across a stream, etc. I believe you can. Listen to Todd Rungren's Utopia album track "The Ikon". If you don't visualize different scenes in your mind you probably are being distracted by something. Rig --- On Mon, 8/25/08, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > From: mike@michaelplishka.com > Subject: Maybe OT--editing of film > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 3:54 PM > Saw a great special the other day on how movies changed when > editing came > along. How cutting from this and that was able to elicit > feeling better > than just a big screen "home movie". My question > to this esteemed group is: > Is there a parallel to this in music? can we experience > different > "locations" in music in the same piece? > > I seem to think that classical music does this with various > movements but is > this really equivalent? Have other artists pursued this > question (I assume > some more minimalists have). > > ~peace~ > > Plish > > www.michaelplishka.com > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 01:13:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A1643BF06; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2CC45C3163124A03B97EF60D8A999F80@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:13:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:13:09 +0000 (UTC) I'll re-iterate: http://kunaki.com/Sales.asp?PID=PX00UCOVYL My suggestion won't be exactly as Rainer's but under the same principle. Ditch all that rack and pedal gear and go all laptop. Reaktor is freakin' awesome, man! Do it! Just take the leap. With a VST host, Reaktor running as VST, Mobius, etc and as many of your favorite VST effects, plus a MIDI controller, you can eliminate all that hardware....no compromise. You just have to shake the addiction and habit of hardware effects. Lose the weight. Go virtual. Move toward the approach I have now. You walk into a gig with only your guitar and laptop. It is quite liberating, and will allow you to focus your setup/hardware hassle energy on the music. Kris > Hi, > > I have finished recording a new album with jacob young in oslo last > week. for this session, i have carried 2 whole bags of pedals and rack > units. i would like to simplify a portion of this setup. looking fwd to > your > ideas. > > the signal goes like this : > > les paul - volume pedal - carl martin comp - procorat - mxr phaser - > mxr chorus - zvex ringtone - zvex fuzz factory - mxr flanger - ehx > micropog > - mooger fooger ring modulator - ehx hog - mooger fooger murf - marshall > jmp1 - mixer channel 1 > > aux 1 : eclipse > aux 2 : tc fireworx > aux 3 : lexicon mpx100 > aux 4 : eventide time factor ( optional ) > > i have been looking at boss gt10, vox tonelab for getting decent amp > tones with very good speaker simulation. then maybe i can get rid of > marshall and some of the mxr pedals. but i just can not get the same tone > of > these analog pedals out from these multifx floor units or from my laptop ( > audiomulch, reaktor etc ) setup. what should i do? my sound is based on > these units, especially the weird zvex, ehx, moog pedals and tc, lexicon, > eventide. looking fwd to your ideas. > > also the cables and adapters weigh sometimes more than the weight of > the units! is there anything like very light cables and adapters? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 01:17:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E2D93BF0D; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01d701c90719$7a64e820$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "Y2K8LOOPFEST@yahoo.com" , "PURPLEHAND@ hotmail.c" , "LOOPPOOL@cruzio.com" Cc: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Y2K8 APPLICATION to PERFORM Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:17:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D4_01C906DE.CADDCE10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <4kG2iD.A.YeC.Zm1sIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:17:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01D4_01C906DE.CADDCE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A note of explanation before you read this application and sign it. I do the pre-production of this festival entirely by myself=20 every year, including all the booking, publicity and liason=20 with artists. Individually responding to the literally hundreds of=20 artists who have contacted me about performing is just an=20 amazing drain on my time and energy and , in order to continue=20 to be a vital solo artist in my own right, I have radically streamlined = the process of application and communication to reduce the amount=20 of work it takes to coordinate 2 or 3 venues and 60 some odd artists=20 (without a budget). I do this because I dearly love this community=20 and feel committed to the whole community and aesthetics of live=20 looping in all it's manifestations. I don't wish this to appear too formal or impersonal but I had to do=20 it to continue to produce the festival without sacrificing my own=20 personal life and artistry. This said and done, I appreciater your understanding and ask one=20 very important thing: =20 Please do not communicate with me individually with any questions about = the=20 festival. I will send information about it in a timely manner to all = accepted applicants. Also, do not expect replies to posts at Loopers Delight. When the = festival gets=20 thick I frequently don't have time to read the L.D. digest. I cannot stress this last point more vigorously. Please be patient and all your questions will be answered. Write me = , of course, in=20 an emergency, or if you are a featured or headliner performer. Make all correspondances go to BOTH of these addresses (for backup in = the advent of harddrive failure---- it's happened........lol) looppool@cruzio.com y2k8loopfest@yahoo.com Also, demand for the festival is larger than the number of slots by a = large factor. If you don't get in=20 this year, don't worry or be afraid that the process is unfair, I'll = attempt to get you in the first=20 conventient time. Thanks so much, Rick Walker festival organizer = www.y2k8loopfest.com=20 Thanks, and now, here's the POOP on the festival PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING, SEND THE PACKAGE and SIGN THE CONSENT FORM=20 if you want to be considered for the = performance Where: Santa Cruz, Pearl Alley Studios (120 Pearl Alley, SC = 95060) =20 When: Opening Night: October 17, Friday, 8 p.m. (for headliners and special = events only) the MAIN Festival October 18, Saturday, noon to midnight October 19, Sunday, noon to midnight Annual Loopers Festival Decompression Bruncheon October 20th, Monday 1 p.m . site TBA We'll try to accomodate as many sleeping bag equipped loopers as = possible in=20 our compound and look for others in town to put travelling loopers up. If you want the privacy of a hotel and have the moolah, then I can = provide=20 recommendations (put Y2K8 HOTEL NEEDED into an email to me) APPLICATION to PERFORM at the Y2K8 Live Looping FESTIVAL Dearest applicants for performance at the Y2K8 International Live = Looping Festival: INTENT OF THIS FESTIVAL: This festival is the largest of it's kind on earth and celebrates the=20 myriad forms of live looping in all of it's idiosyncratic = manifestations. =20 Artists who rely primarily on prerecorded loops will NOT be accepted=20 for this festival. As much as I respect and admire many artists who=20 use precanned loops, there are=20 dozens of festivals in the world that cater to such artists. Thanks for understanding this distinction in advance. Be prepared to have a very large portion of your performance use=20 live looping techniques. If you have serious doubts about whether you would fit this criteria,=20 save yourself the trouble and don't apply. So, =20 Thank you so much for applying to perform on October 17-19, 2008 in = Santa Cruz. Due to the very large number of applicants for this festival and limited = performance spaces,we have decided that all performers will go through = the same process of=20 applying for performance from now on. If you'd like to perform please send the following information to me via = the=20 snail mail. I regret that, though convenient for the artists, =20 I do not have time to go to websites or myspace pages to read or listen to mp3s. There are just too many performers vying for spots on = the=20 festival and I want to have some kind of a personal and artistic life = during=20 the ensuing months. Please send the following submission package to Y2K8 SUBMISSION 412 Darwin Street Santa Cruz, California, USA 95062-2629 It needs to contain: 1) CD or CDR of representative material. Remember that this is a live=20 looping festival so artist who rely primarily on triggering premade = loops in=20 programs like Ableton's Live , Acid or Garage Band should not apply. Please no MP3s.........I just don't have the ability to play them and = most=20 of my perusal occurs in my car driving to gigs. 2) A second and separate CD with .JPEG digital photographs (suitable = for=20 printing in a newspaper or magazine) of your act 3) include a very short and pithy musical biography and description of = your=20 life act on the same CD. Please make the music CD and the photo/bio CD be separate. 4) reproduce the following rules of performance and please sign it = just so=20 I know that everyone is on the same page about making the whole thing = work.=20 It' s a logistical nightmare and only works if everyone works for the whole team of artists. reproduce and sign the following: *************************************************************************= ****************************************************** Y2K8 RULES of PERFORMANCE: Performances all occur on two adjacent stages. Up to 60 artists from up = to 10=20 countries will perform continuously for a 24 hour period over two days. There are no breaks between acts so the music is=20 continuous. Because the stages adjoin in view of the audience members, set up and=20 break down can be very distracting to the audience so it is imperative=20 that loading Artists be as sensitive as possible not to draw focus from who is performing. 1) Artists have 20 minute maximum completely silent load in=20 (Line checks can be accomplished with supplied headphones, also = silently) 2) Artists have 30 minute maximum performance 3) Artists have 10 minutes maximum complete silent evacuation of the = stage Importantly: 1) Artists who take longer to load will have time cut off of their = performances 2) Artist who perform to long or take too long to evacuate the stage at = the=20 end of their sets result in the next act having time shaved off their = set. Essentially, please be concious and DON'T screw the next performer. WE WILL STAY ON SCHEDULE COME HELL OR HIGH WATER ARTIST COMPENSATION: We run in the red every year (out of my pocket always) and there is no=20 compensation for the artists, unfortunately, consequently. Over time, I am researching new ways to get granting and to get = subsidies=20 from music companies. These invariably will be offered, first, to the artists who travel from out of = the=20 country to come perform. GUEST and COMP LISTS: We charge at the door and don't allow guests at all because the venue is = just not large enough to acomodate more people. =20 This includes roadies or friends who help you load in. =20 They need to be prepared to pay for their entrance or have you pay for = them. We just can't afford to do this festival without sticking religiously = with this=20 rule. =20 This is all pretty harsh but the only way we can keep this gowing = without=20 losing our shirts (which I cannot afford to do).=20 I hope you understand and will=20 still come to play. I have read the above rules of performance and agree to them. signed ____________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________= ______________ *************************************************************************= ********************************************************** I try as hard a possible to make this thing bigger and better every year = but=20 we are a very new art, still unable to draw large crowds of people, and = the whole thing=20 is a gigantic (and wonderfully creative and fun) labor of love on = everyone's part. Look around you at all the staff and volunteers. They are all working = for 72 hours=20 for FREE.......just to serve this wonderful burgeoning and creative = community. Thank you very much for showing interest in this wonderful festival. = We'll=20 be blessed to have you come play. with the deepest respect for everyone's artistry who applies for this=20 festival Rick Walker founder Y2K International Live Looping Festivals=20 www.y2kloofest.com ------=_NextPart_000_01D4_01C906DE.CADDCE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    A note of = explanation=20 before you read this application and sign it.
     
    I do the pre-production of this = festival entirely=20 by myself
    every year, including all the booking, = publicity=20 and liason
    with artists.   Individually = responding=20 to the literally hundreds of
    artists who have contacted me about = performing is=20 just an
    amazing drain on my time and energy and = , in order=20 to continue
    to be a vital solo artist in my own = right,  I=20 have radically streamlined
    the process of application and = communication to=20 reduce the amount
    of work it takes to coordinate 2 or 3 = venues and 60=20 some odd artists
    (without a budget).    I = do this=20 because I dearly love this community
    and feel committed to the whole = community and=20 aesthetics of live
    looping in all it's = manifestations.
     
    I don't wish this to appear too formal = or=20 impersonal but I had to do
    it to continue to produce the festival = without=20 sacrificing my own
    personal life and = artistry.
     
    This said and done,  I appreciater = your=20 understanding and ask one
    very important=20 thing:  
     
    Please do not communicate = with me=20 individually with any questions about the
    festival.   I=20 will send information about it in a timely manner to all accepted=20 applicants.
     
    Also, do not expect replies to posts at = Loopers=20 Delight.  When the festival gets
    thick I frequently don't have time to = read the L.D.=20 digest.
     
    I cannot stress this last point more=20 vigorously.
     
    Please be patient and all  your = questions will=20 be answered.    Write me , of course, in
    an emergency,  or if you are a = featured or=20 headliner performer.
     
    Make all correspondances go to BOTH of = these=20 addresses (for backup in the advent of harddrive = failure----
    it's happened........lol)
     
    looppool@cruzio.com
    y2k8loopfest@yahoo.com<= /DIV>
     
     
    Also, demand for the festival is larger = than the=20 number of slots by a large factor.  If you don't get in =
    this year,  don't worry or be = afraid that the=20 process is unfair,  I'll attempt to get you in the first =
    conventient time.
     
    Thanks so = much,     Rick=20 Walker   festival organizer  www.y2k8loopfest.com =
     
    Thanks,  and now,  here's the = POOP on the=20 festival
     
    PLEASE READ THE = FOLLOWING,  =20 SEND THE PACKAGE and SIGN THE CONSENT FORM
             &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;    =20 if you want to be considered for the = performance
     
    Where:   Santa = Cruz,   =20 Pearl Alley Studios   (120 Pearl Alley, SC=20 95060)    
    When:    Opening=20 Night:
              =     =20  October 17, Friday,  8 p.m. (for headliners and special = events=20 only)
              =       =20 the MAIN Festival
              =       =20 October 18, Saturday,  noon to midnight
              =        October 19,=20 Sunday,    noon to midnight
     
              =        =20 Annual Loopers Festival Decompression Bruncheon
              =       =20 October 20th, Monday     1 p.m .   site=20 TBA
     
    We'll try to accomodate as many sleeping = bag=20 equipped loopers as possible in
    our compound and look for others in town = to put=20 travelling loopers up.
    If you want the privacy of a hotel and = have the=20 moolah,   then I can provide
    recommendations (put Y2K8  HOTEL = NEEDED =20 into an email to me)
     
     
    APPLICATION to=20 PERFORM at the Y2K8 Live Looping FESTIVAL

    Dearest=20 applicants for performance at the Y2K8 International Live = Looping=20 Festival:
     
    INTENT OF THIS=20 FESTIVAL:
     
    This = festival is the=20 largest of it's kind on earth and celebrates the =
    myriad = forms of live=20 looping in all of it's = idiosyncratic manifestations.   =20
     
    Artists who rely=20 primarily on prerecorded loops will NOT be accepted=20
    for this=20 festival.   As much as I respect and admire many artists who=20
    use = precanned loops,=20 there are
    dozens of = festivals in=20 the world that cater to such artists.
    Thanks for understanding this = distinction in=20 advance.
     
    Be = prepared to have a=20 very large portion of your performance use
    live looping techniques.
     
    If you have serious doubts about = whether you would=20 fit this criteria,
    save yourself the trouble and = don't=20 apply.
    So,  =20
    Thank you = so much for=20 applying to perform on October 17-19, 2008 in Santa Cruz.

    Due to = the very=20 large number of applicants for this festival and limited
    performance = spaces,we have decided that all performers will go through the same = process of=20
    applying for performance from now on.

    If you'd like to = perform please=20 send the following information to me via the
    snail mail.  I = regret=20 that, though convenient for the artists,  =
    I do not have time to go to websites = or myspace=20 pages to read or
    listen to mp3s.      There are just too many = performers=20 vying for spots on the
    festival and I want to have some kind of a = personal=20 and artistic life during
    the ensuing months.

    Please send = the=20 following submission package to

    Y2K8 SUBMISSION
    412 Darwin=20 Street
    Santa Cruz, California, USA
    95062-2629

    It needs to=20 contain:

    1) CD or CDR of representative material.  Remember = that=20 this is a live
    looping festival so artist who rely primarily on = triggering=20 premade loops in
    programs like Ableton's Live , Acid or Garage Band = should=20 not apply.
    Please no MP3s.........I just don't have the ability to = play them=20 and most
    of my perusal occurs in my car driving to = gigs.

    2)  A=20 second and separate CD with .JPEG digital photographs (suitable for =
    printing=20 in a newspaper or magazine) of your act

    3)  include a very = short and=20 pithy musical biography and description of your
    life act on the same = CD.

    Please make the music CD and the photo/bio CD be=20 separate.

    4)  reproduce the following rules of performance = and=20 please sign it  just so
    I know that everyone is on the same = page about=20 making the whole thing work.
    It' s a logistical nightmare and only = works if=20 everyone works
    for the whole team of artists.


    reproduce = and sign=20 the=20 following:
    ***********************************************************= ********************************************************************
    <= BR>Y2K8 =20 RULES of PERFORMANCE:

    Performances all occur on two adjacent=20 stages.  Up to 60 artists from up to 10 =
    countries will perform continuously for = a 24 hour=20 period
    over two days.   There are no breaks between acts so = the=20 music is
    continuous.

    Because the stages adjoin in view of the = audience members,   set up and
    break down can be very = distracting=20 to the audience so it is imperative
    that loading Artists be as sensitive as = possible=20 not to draw focus
    from who is performing.

    1) Artists = have  20=20 minute maximum completely silent load in
          (Line checks can be accomplished with supplied = headphones, =20 also silently)
    2)  Artists have 30 minute maximum=20 performance

    3)  Artists have 10 = minutes maximum=20 complete silent evacuation of the = stage

    Importantly:

    1) Artists who take longer to=20 load will have time cut off of their performances

    2) = Artist who=20 perform to long or take too long to evacuate the stage at the
    end of = their=20 sets result in the next act having time shaved off their=20 set.
    Essentially,  please be concious = and DON'T=20 screw the next performer.
    WE WILL STAY ON SCHEDULE COME HELL OR = HIGH=20 WATER  <laugh>


    ARTIST COMPENSATION:

    We run = in the=20 red every year (out of my pocket always) and there is no =
    compensation for=20 the artists, unfortunately, consequently.

    Over time, I am = researching new=20 ways to get granting and to get subsidies
    from music = companies.  =20 These
    invariably will be offered, first, to the artists who travel = from out=20 of the
    country to come perform.


    GUEST and COMP = LISTS:

    We=20 charge at the door and     don't allow=20 guests at all because the venue is 
    just not large enough=20 to acomodate more people.        =
     
    This includes roadies or friends who = help =20 you load in. 
    They need to be prepared to pay for = their entrance=20 or have you pay for them.
    We just can't afford to do = this festival=20 without sticking religiously with this
    rule.  
     
    This is all pretty harsh but the only = way we can=20 keep this gowing without
    losing our shirts (which I cannot afford = to do).=20
     
    I hope you understand and will=20
    still come to = play.
     
     
     
    I have read the above rules of = performance and=20 agree to them.


    signed=20 ____________________________________

    _____________________________= __________________________________________________________
    ***********= *************************************************************************= ***********************************************

    I=20 try as hard a possible to make this thing bigger and better every year = but=20
    we are a very new art, still unable to draw large crowds of people, = and the=20 whole thing
    is a gigantic (and wonderfully creative = and fun)=20 labor of love on everyone's part.
     
    Look around you at all the staff and=20 volunteers.   They are all working for 72 hours =
    for FREE.......just to serve this = wonderful=20 burgeoning and creative community.

    Thank you very much for showing interest in = this=20 wonderful festival.  We'll
    be blessed to have you come=20 play.

    with the deepest respect for everyone's artistry who = applies for=20 this
    festival

    Rick Walker
    founder
    Y2K = International  Live=20 Looping Festivals
    ------=_NextPart_000_01D4_01C906DE.CADDCE10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 01:21:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C47373BF0D; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=dRz+rBW9jUU14eNkAMU+xtu1zx/lOVLUUmfP6TAnAEY=; b=GkzTKDoCoeSzEqLgcBEGeLCBlYasOWM1gs7ZYTczBISr0HU8WEhiG9Lb6F6iNWL4mb SGPk0F3uybrx4eDQe8TpjmAOj9CPu/R93QzsR91qi0CwUkNmwQoNQ/CLTjN/MpmDAH0H 4QEc/K7Dbgg2s+T0hldAI4LrgaAFMv0E5hcr8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=s5cQSq5O/5qmLJNQleP/NXX9ysyhyJz5julvKkltnd4PO3jstYtHVlVeraUHLsZvOZ 3uqKC8UrrK9CdLp9XF13awKWIsQqd/bBiquE+vDsc0FZFcxTmDiQQA2oyJDxk32rY+J2 XKnHjXrHIPx4rpbGUJkFhmS02jBsn6NaJXzjs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:21:09 -0700 From: "Michael Billow" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Maybe OT--editing of film In-Reply-To: <14C91FA1B2F1499AA53FD8FE32D2A5FB@MichaelPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_97110_13764019.1219713669867" References: <6E05DED6-4BEE-41C1-BEF7-B6A2D73BC2D6@zoekeating.com> <14C91FA1B2F1499AA53FD8FE32D2A5FB@MichaelPC> Resent-Message-ID: <3XeuAB.A.I2C.Iq1sIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:21:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_97110_13764019.1219713669867 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Mike I think thats a yes, but probably not so much with today's musics. I think it was especially true during the 70's when you had an "alternative" movement in Rock music that was very progressive, and focused on good musicianship. You had bands like Genesis, Renaissance, King Crimson, Van Der Graaf Generator, Mike Oldfield etc. who weren't afraid to present very long (sometimes excessively self-indulgent) pieces of music that varied greatly in mood and time signature throughout what was sometimes an entire album side! That movement fizzled out about the same time as the New Wave hit in the 80s. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, wrote: > Saw a great special the other day on how movies changed when editing came > along. How cutting from this and that was able to elicit feeling better > than just a big screen "home movie". My question to this esteemed group is: > Is there a parallel to this in music? can we experience different > "locations" in music in the same piece? > > I seem to think that classical music does this with various movements but > is this really equivalent? Have other artists pursued this question (I > assume some more minimalists have). > > ~peace~ > > Plish > > www.michaelplishka.com > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > > ------=_Part_97110_13764019.1219713669867 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Mike I think thats a yes, but probably not so much with today's musics. I think it was especially true during the 70's when you had an "alternative" movement in Rock music that was very progressive, and focused on good musicianship. You had bands like Genesis, Renaissance, King Crimson, Van Der Graaf Generator, Mike Oldfield etc. who weren't afraid to present very long (sometimes excessively self-indulgent) pieces of music that varied greatly in mood and time signature throughout what was sometimes an entire album side! That movement fizzled out about the same time as the New Wave hit in the 80s.

    On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
    Saw a great special the other day on how movies changed when editing came along.  How cutting from this and that was able to elicit feeling better than just a big screen "home movie".  My question to this esteemed group is: Is there a parallel to this in music?  can we experience different "locations" in music in the same piece?

    I seem to think that classical music does this with various movements but is this really equivalent?  Have other artists pursued this question (I assume some more minimalists have).

    ~peace~

    Plish

    www.michaelplishka.com
    www.myspace.com/michaelplishka
    www.myspace.com/bohdanovich


    ------=_Part_97110_13764019.1219713669867-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 01:32:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 907B63BF05; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <05b801c906c8$c1b3ed30$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <45426FB0-59F3-4FEA-AD95-72651E3CBEC5@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:32:49 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:32:58 +0000 (UTC) I really am a fan of the Vox, though I do not like the reverb and chorus on it. For that I use the half rack BOSS VF-1. Does a lot of very cool effects, is cheap and half rack. You can get two if you want in one rack space for about $400! Put one in your Vox's effects loop and one after. Lately these days I've been using an all laptop setup and I'm really, really happy with Amplitube. Amplitube and Reaktor... make for a very powerful set up. If I were to pry myself out of my studio these days I'd bring a guitar, midi keyboard, two FCB1010s audio interface and my laptop. The entire rig would fit in my $40 dufflebag thing with wheels and might even fit in the carry on compartment. I was a big skeptic after trying Guitar Rig and hating it, but after hearing what Amplitube SVX did for my bass I tried the demo on guitar and I was sold. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 01:58:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F07D3BF04; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:58:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002e01c9071f$2f8e3800$8c01a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: "LOOPPOOL@cruzio.com" Cc: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" References: <01d701c90719$7a64e820$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: Y2K8 APPLICATION to PERFORM Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:58:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C906E4.8272EDD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:58:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C906E4.8272EDD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you need an application to perform from me? Bob ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C906E4.8272EDD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Do you need an application to perform = from=20 me?
     
    Bob
    ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C906E4.8272EDD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 02:02:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFB593BF0A; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808250034s33b0a032m7d2a28d94b84d726@mail.gmail.com> References: <002a01c905fa$ad2b0390$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <000901c9067c$afaf9180$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0808250034s33b0a032m7d2a28d94b84d726@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <43F68DF7-436F-4A82-9A15-C71F46DC2483@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER-LOOPER pedal Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:02:34 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Another great glitch VST is Audio Damage's Replicant and it will reorder your slices plus a lot more... I'm going to have to check out this TB Cairo too! On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:34 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >> I also wonder if there are VST plugins that can do basically the >> same thing > > A bunch of (hopefully) useful hints: > > TB Cairo is the name of the free VST plug-in that I use in Windows for > this kind of live stuttering/gating on my laptop looping setup. You > can find the download page by an internet search engine. It can be set > to any musical or non musical rhythmic relation to the tempo. It does > not reorder the slices though, but many loopers do that fine > (Looperlative 1, Mobius, Live's BeatRepeat). > > A more musically interesting approach IMO would be to have a proper > step sequencer sending out the "open/close the gate" commands, because > this would allow for a musical groove factor (swing) and not only the > stiff mathematical grid that we know from plug-ins like TB Cairo, > LP1's scramble, Mobius shuffle, Mobius scripting or the BOSS SL-20. > This is by the way one of the reasons I'm not interested in using > VST's in the future, as the best groove clocked step sequencing host > application I know, Numerology, works with AU plug-ins under OS X. > > If you are using Pro Tools as your looping host you can buy the Pro > Tools plug-in Transfuser that does both slicing/gating and many other > things. I have just did a test of Transfuser and was amazed by how > powerful this plug-in is and how easy it is to use, thanks to the > smart and clever design. > > In Logic many native instrument plug-ins can fetch the audio input as > a side-chain feed and then work as slicing gates. The gating rhythm > can be directed by either the plug-in's built-in step sequencer or an > infinite number of MIDI regions (sequences) placed on a track along > the linear time line. > > Whatever software method you prefer, a nice trick is to assign a MIDI > expression pedal to sweep the musically relevant time measure values > of the slicing/gating speed while playing. I started doing that back > in the Repeater days, using analog filter banks, but it's much easier > to set up and use creatively with today's computer hosted software. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 02:49:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4B4B3BF04; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=d0pHwcKIpF3D+5g7PeIMTSP/NqRdOUhg1FNieU+jnnNvTZEmplRIoCc3jCD0gY0S4WOS4VcebN3q3B8B04NZDW2gRaLqRvlvTMy5JOOc2BxYLrVI4Aeu+d8WwwKVEnRk0yZWW8o8SqyqHVBvSqTEP11tsxJBE7sNZyyok+z3HMI=; X-YMail-OSG: 0.cWcpQVM1k3lQkF.8TYhNIuyefQO5KuSWYTdQFDmfRkABQ1qPZqqknlvbDJfw7F0r3YDhU3jpaS2Ijaxh5piq5JORGVi6AwCCueFCFl7e2gwxYYcH59CHGP7VNDe8T1bGr1jIgZ09voGnYYmJzcJ56y X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:49:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <177CE37D-ECAD-41BB-B63A-B15B1522EC30@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <634237.663.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:49:42 +0000 (UTC) can you imagine improvising to an simple image that starts to change in colors beautifully and then turns into an eternal tunnel and you get all into it and the music becomes almost the image and you start grooving with each other and just as people start to dream and sync to it,there is an abrupt picture change of a goat in a snowy field starting at you? i mean what do you play? people just burst into fucking laughter and at the end the guy doing the images on his laptop had to pay for all our drinks! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 8/25/08, RP Collier wrote: > From: RP Collier > Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 5:05 PM > On Aug 25, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > > > There's a term for the mind's tendency to find > these sort of > > connections where there aren't any, but I > can't recall it right now. > > Perhaps apophenia: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia > > > regards > > > BobC > > > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > > http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 03:03:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 774D83BF0B; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: To: References: <6E05DED6-4BEE-41C1-BEF7-B6A2D73BC2D6@zoekeating.com> <14C91FA1B2F1499AA53FD8FE32D2A5FB@MichaelPC> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Maybe OT--editing of film Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:03:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C906FE.5BAACD70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:03:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C906FE.5BAACD70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm tending to agree with the posts thus far. Thanks for the = perspectives! ~peace~ Plish ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Billow=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Re: Maybe OT--editing of film Mike I think thats a yes, but probably not so much with today's = musics. I think it was especially true during the 70's when you had an = "alternative" movement in Rock music that was very progressive, and = focused on good musicianship. You had bands like Genesis, Renaissance, = King Crimson, Van Der Graaf Generator, Mike Oldfield etc. who weren't = afraid to present very long (sometimes excessively self-indulgent) = pieces of music that varied greatly in mood and time signature = throughout what was sometimes an entire album side! That movement = fizzled out about the same time as the New Wave hit in the 80s. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, wrote: Saw a great special the other day on how movies changed when editing = came along. How cutting from this and that was able to elicit feeling = better than just a big screen "home movie". My question to this = esteemed group is: Is there a parallel to this in music? can we = experience different "locations" in music in the same piece? I seem to think that classical music does this with various = movements but is this really equivalent? Have other artists pursued = this question (I assume some more minimalists have). ~peace~ Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.myspace.com/michaelplishka www.myspace.com/bohdanovich ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C906FE.5BAACD70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I'm tending to agree with the posts = thus far. =20 Thanks for the perspectives!
    ~peace~
    Plish
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Michael = Billow=20
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 = 8:21=20 PM
    Subject: Re: Maybe OT--editing = of=20 film

    Mike I think thats a yes, but probably not so much with = today's=20 musics. I think it was especially true during the 70's when you had an = "alternative" movement in Rock music that was very progressive, and = focused on=20 good musicianship. You had bands like Genesis, Renaissance, King = Crimson, Van=20 Der Graaf Generator, Mike Oldfield etc. who weren't afraid to present = very=20 long (sometimes excessively self-indulgent) pieces of music that = varied=20 greatly in mood and time signature throughout what was sometimes an = entire=20 album side! That movement fizzled out about the same time as the New = Wave hit=20 in the 80s.

    On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, <mike@michaelplishka.com>=20 wrote:
    Saw=20 a great special the other day on how movies changed when editing = came along.=20  How cutting from this and that was able to elicit feeling = better than=20 just a big screen "home movie".  My question to this esteemed = group is:=20 Is there a parallel to this in music?  can we experience = different=20 "locations" in music in the same piece?

    I seem to think that=20 classical music does this with various movements but is this really=20 equivalent?  Have other artists pursued this question (I assume = some=20 more minimalists have).

    ~peace~

    Plish

    www.michaelplishka.com
    www.myspace.com/michaelplishka
    www.myspace.com/bohdanovich


    ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C906FE.5BAACD70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 03:18:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C6373BF0B; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:18:06 -0700 Message-ID: <011c01c9072a$5ed29650$6401a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011D_01C906EF.B273BE50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckHKlusrbL282C0SwmkXj+DWToJXg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:18:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011D_01C906EF.B273BE50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think there were some great suggestions out there, including trimming cable fat ( I use george L's), and simply pairing down. When I paired down to go to Europe, I actually found it very liberating in the months leading up to my trip to just dig deeper in to my paired down rig, and realize that I can find ways to re-create certain effects I knew I had to leave behind. Example: using my tone control to mimic an envelope follower as I played hammer-ons. Or using my volume control with long delay and reverb tails to create the swell delay effect I use on my DL-4 But, The amp modeling issue for you is one I feel is the hardest to address. Even the amp modeling in Logic, which means for you, investing in an expensive Mac and additional software, and a new platform, has short comings in sound, dimension, feel, and latency, though every thing else about the Logic platform is pretty stellar from my limited experience. but I also realize I'm coming from a place where I have been playing tube amplifiers and stomp box effects for many years and for my ears, even a tube preamp with basic speaker emulation, like the marshall JMP-1 , boogie Triaxis, or the out of production Boogie Formula, sounds better to my ears in many ways, than a modeling amp with 57 varieties of amps that doesn't nail one amp convincingly. I wish there were more of these type of tube preamps available, in a lighter more portable stomp box style box, or better yet, a tube preamp/ computer interface the size of a MOTU traveler that uses subminiature tubes and really caters to guitar players with amp style potentiometer control, re-active load speaker emulation, and some built in, non CPU draining DSP. At least that's what I want :-) I also want richer harmonic content, better dynamic range with more natural response to picking dynamics, natural compression, to name a few things, that tubes do the best, and that I haven't gotten thus far from modeling. But I also understand that if you didn't have the reference point that I do, you might not hear and feel the difference I'm hearing and feeling. But from what Erdem said, it seems like he does. So with that in mind I would suggest perhaps a combination of both things, paired down. Maybe use your preamp, and your most versatile processor which I would assume is the Eclipse. And perhaps your lap top running audio mulch and what-ever extra effects plug-ins you can run with out drawing too much CPU. Or a hard ware looper if you don't want to take a lap top for looping. I think if you dig deep in to that Eclipse you will find it can replace half the stuff you mentioned. I have to say that I'm not down on modeling as a whole, I love my DL-4, I just think that certain things like delay and modulation effects are much easier to model well than tube amplifiers. The other day when I sat down to play the new Line 6 M-13, I was running in to a fender tube amp, it sounded great but I believe it needed that tube amp to sound its best. And it is purely a stomp box modeler, no amps or speaker sims. I honestly believe that if any one of the guitar players on this list sat down with me and we did an AB comparison between their modeling amp doing a fender clean sound with a minimal amount of effects, and either my boogie pre-amp direct with a dedicated DSP, or an actual Princeton reverb with a handful of stomp boxes, it would be obvious the difference in sound quality, and also in the way it feels and responds to your touch. I'm really not trying to be a snob here, but I can hear the difference.. Another thing you might consider doing is getting something like an ME-10 and wherever you travel to record or perform ,simply run it in to a tube amp and mic the speaker, and turn off any amp or speaker modeling in the processor and simply use it as an effects device and let the amp provide the tube mojo. Perhaps consider a floor board that has a good assortment of the stomp boxes you need to leave behind and hopefully a stereo effects loop for patching in your eclipse. I don't think I've ever been in a studio that didn't have at least on functional tube amp. That was more than my two cents Good luck Bill ------=_NextPart_000_011D_01C906EF.B273BE50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    I think there were some great suggestions out there, including trimming cable fat ( I use george L’s), and simply = pairing down. When I paired down to go to Europe, I actually found it very = liberating in the months leading up to my trip to just dig deeper in to my paired = down rig, and realize that I can find ways to re-create certain effects I = knew I had to leave behind. Example: using my tone control to mimic an envelope = follower as I played hammer-ons.  Or using my volume control with long delay = and reverb tails to create the swell delay effect I use on my = DL-4

      But, The amp modeling issue for you is = one I feel is the hardest to address. Even the amp modeling in Logic, which = means for you, investing in an expensive Mac and additional software, and a new = platform, has short comings in sound, dimension, feel, and latency, though every = thing else about the Logic platform is pretty stellar from my limited = experience.  but I also realize I’m coming from a place where I have been playing = tube amplifiers and stomp box effects for many years and for my ears, even a = tube preamp with basic speaker emulation, like the marshall  JMP-1 , = boogie  Triaxis,  or the out of production Boogie Formula,  sounds better to my = ears in many ways, than a modeling amp with 57 varieties of amps that = doesn’t nail one amp convincingly.   I wish there were more of these = type of  tube preamps available, in a lighter more portable  stomp box style box, = or better yet,

     a tube preamp/ computer interface the size of a = MOTU traveler that uses subminiature tubes and really  caters  to = guitar  players with amp style potentiometer control, re-active load  speaker = emulation, and some built in, non CPU draining DSP. At least that’s what I = want J  I also want richer harmonic content, better dynamic range with more natural = response to picking dynamics, natural compression, to name a few things, that = tubes do the best, and that I haven’t gotten thus far from modeling. =  But I also understand that if you didn’t have the reference point that I = do, you might not hear and feel the difference I’m hearing and = feeling.  But from what Erdem said, it seems like he = does.

     So with that in mind I would suggest perhaps a combination of both things, paired down.  Maybe use your preamp, = and your most versatile processor which I would assume is the Eclipse. And = perhaps your lap top running audio mulch and what-ever extra effects plug-ins you can = run with out drawing too much CPU. Or a hard ware looper if you don’t = want to take a lap top for looping. I think if you dig deep in to that Eclipse = you will find it can replace half the stuff you mentioned.   I have to = say that I’m not down on modeling as a whole,  I love my DL-4, =  I just think that certain things like delay and modulation effects are = much easier to model well than tube amplifiers. The other day when I sat down = to play the new Line 6 M-13, I was running in to a fender tube amp, it = sounded great  but  I believe it needed that tube amp to sound its = best.  And it is purely a stomp box modeler, no amps or speaker sims. I honestly = believe that if any one of the guitar players on this list sat down with me and = we did an AB comparison between their modeling amp doing a fender clean sound = with a minimal amount of effects, and either my boogie pre-amp direct with a = dedicated DSP, or an actual Princeton reverb  with a handful of stomp boxes, = it would be obvious the difference in sound quality, and also in the way it = feels and responds to your touch. I’m really not trying to be a snob = here, but I can hear the difference..  Another thing you might consider doing = is getting something like an ME-10 and wherever you travel  to record = or perform ,simply run it in  to a tube amp and mic the speaker, and = turn off any amp or speaker modeling in the processor and  simply use it as = an effects device and let the amp provide the tube mojo. Perhaps consider a = floor board that has a good assortment of the stomp boxes you need to leave = behind and hopefully a stereo effects loop for patching in your eclipse. =  I don’t think I’ve ever been in a studio that didn’t have at least = on functional tube amp.

     That was more than my two = cents

    Good luck

     Bill

     

    ------=_NextPart_000_011D_01C906EF.B273BE50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 04:44:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF4273BF01; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=EMOkY/0StGzoZRFr+G27xJvt+LthYxIPGZypv6hVwwq5D8LDzNyzbYwl9ekIslI4w1hL/4FlYwyR/p3HUndYn7EhgkmRthpKRqL+4dEWUBvSy/pgcCJxHbqCfng30n2f7uq2OSlRsvZj+V3r+TeVwWDtZBEtN5+30PgpLGSAEz0=; X-YMail-OSG: _e3C4ZkVM1mWHW6PcC.sizjYvpDcOnTXQxsiHu8..wGto_9_C.R_TsnOMXcijpiMVpNS9uK6f6_Mwmw1Y18jYLf7m4Gfn0.LT22dyXhOLttldH0ut59uX7D6yRmT0LVNHpKDA4jBXu6gMzxTZF1bw6rTTf0klQk8r5p2QVfgIzt64iHhf4SHI8Fv8UJdrO.d4EQZoQHozZAdyeWl0lP2c5MrWA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:44:33 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: This is Not a Test: Chicago Sound Art Collective Release (free download!) To: margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1843012839-1219725873=:42938" Message-ID: <513857.42938.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:44:34 +0000 (UTC) --0-1843012839-1219725873=:42938 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Various Artists- This Is Not A Test =0A=0AReleased by Treetrunk =0A=0Ahttp:= //www.archive.org/details/This_Is_Not_A_Test=0A=0AThis very special release= from Treetrunk documents and celebrates an=0Aevent that happened August 11= , 2008 at the Jay Pritzker Pavilion in=0AChicago, Illinois. The event was c= alled "This Is Not A Test: The=0AChicago Sound Experience" and was one of a= series of=0AAudio Picnics at the Pavilion, designed to provide visitors wi= th free=0Aand enjoyable audio experiences. The event was quite successful,= =0Adrawing a large and attentive crowd. It lasted for 3 hours, from 6 to 9= =0APM.=0A=0A=0AConcert Curator: Margaret Noble =0A=0Ahttp://margaretnoble.n= et/=0A=0A=0AWeb Curator: Thomas Park =0A=0Ahttp://www.mystifiedmusic.com/= =0A=0AAdditional Track Information: =0A=0AThis information was gathered fro= m the program for the Audio Picnic. Track numbers pertain to the original t= rack order. =0A=0ANOTES: =0A=0A=0A- Track 1, "Vritti", is available for pre= viewing from the artist's upcoming release. =0A=0A- The tracks, "CHI-TAPE E= xcerpts 1 and 2" by Meri von KleinSmid are not available on this release. = =0A=0A- Ms. Noble would like to encourage the listeners to hear the tracks= =0Ain the order of the program because she feels this arrangement had a=0Ap= articular flow. =0A=0A1. =91Vritti=92 by Jen-Kuang Chang of Lincoln, NE =0A= Start Time: 6:05 PM Length: 3:39 Minutes =0AVritti is a sonic poem depicti= ng the fluctuation of human conscious=0Aduring the meditative state, using = computer-generated sounds, acoustic=0Ainstruments and field recordings. Thi= s piece is not posted on the=0Anetrelease, per the artist's request, but it= is available for=0Apreviewing from his upcoming release. More on the artis= t:=0Awww.myspace.com/jenkuangchang =0A=0A2. =91Shikaakwa=92 by David Schmud= de of Chicago, IL =0AStart Time: 6:08:41 PM Length: 3:20 Minutes =0AAll res= idents of Chicago know the instant reprieve that the=0Acrashing waves provi= de when they face east and allow the temporal=0Anature of the city to be dr= owned out by the endless ebb and flow of=0ALake Michigan. =0A=0A3. =91Lone = Construction Cry=92 by Peter Cusack of London, UK =0AStart Time: 6:12:03 PM= Length: 4:27 Minutes =0AField recording of central Chicago - recorded from= a downtown 16th floor window on Saturday the 24the of July 2004. =0A=0A4. = =91The Ambient Wasp=92 by Krispen Hartung of Boise, ID =0AStart Time: 6:16:= 32 PM Length: 5:11 Minutes =0AA captured a wasp in its nest before winter h= ibernation. In a small=0Aceramic jar, free breathing and frustrated, this c= reature=92s fury was=0Arecorded and processed. =0A=0A5. =91Lake Station=92 = by Teresa Gale of Chicago, IL =0AStart Time: 06:21:45 PM Length: 1:10 Minut= es =0A=91Your Favorite Chicago Sounds=94 project: CTA riders file through= =0Aturnstiles at the Red Line "Lake" station, amidst ongoing repairs and=0A= renovation. =0A=0A6. =91True Crime=92 by Thomas Park / Mystified of St. Lou= is, MO =0AStart Time: 6:22:57 PM Length: 4:46 Minutes =0A"True Crime" is a = darkly funny sample collage hearkening back to the days of Prohibition in C= hicago. =0A=0A7. =91Taste and See=92 by Peter Joseph of Santa Fe, New Mexic= o =0AStart Time: 6:27:45 PM Length: 5:24 Minutes =0AThe church and parish o= f St. Michael's on the near north side dates=0Afrom before the time of the = Chicago fire. In the fall of 2005 I=0Areturned to the church where I sang i= n the 7th grade choir some 35=0Ayears later. These are composed of field re= cordings made between Sept=0Aand Dec 2005. =0A=0A8. =91A Spoon Full of Suga= r=92 by Teresa Gale of Chicago, IL =0AStart Time: 6:33:11 PM Length: 2:04 M= inutes =0AYour Favorite Chicago Sounds project: a holiday window display at= =0Athe State Street Macy's features audio by Mary Poppins with a playful=0A= accompaniment by a Salvation Army volunteer. =0A=0A9. =91Grant Park=92 by J= ennifer Swann of Chicago, IL =0AStart Time: 6:35:17 PM Length: 2:20 Minutes= =0ASwann reflects on Chicago through her experiences watching the seasons = change over the last year in downtown's Grant Park. =0A=0A10. =91The Astrol= abe=92 by Eleazar Garzon of Argentina =0AStart Time: 6:37:39 PM Length: 10:= 07 Minutes =0A=93The Astrolabe of Eleazar=94 was made with sounds produced = by cross=0Asynthesis and samples of orchestral-alike sounds transformed by= =0Afilters, granular synthesis and Ocarina-alike sound played by the=0Acomp= oser. =0A=0A11. =91Dying Underground=92 by Alfonso Carrasco Martz of Spain = =0AStart Time: 6:47:48 PM Length: 6:28 Minutes =0AThe media shows conflicts= around the world every day, and we are so used to this barbarity that we h= ave learned to ignore it. =0A=0A12. =91Kira=92s Murder=92 by Margaret Noble= of San Diego, CA =0AStart Time: 6:54:18 PM Length: 3:11 Minutes =0AOn June= 26th of 2007, Kira Simonian, a beautiful and talented=0AChicago artist, st= udent and friend was brutally murdered. One year=0Alater it was revealed th= at the murderer was her husband. This piece is=0Aa direct response to the s= hock and brutality of this crime. More on the=0Aartist: http://margaretnobl= e.net =0A=0A13. =91Untitled #209=92 by Francisco Lopez of San Francisco, CA= =0AStart Time: 7:00:00 PM Length: 8:54 Minutes =0Ahttp://www.franciscolope= z.net =0A=0A14. =91Chicago_Street_Performers Episode=92 by Peter Noise Inc = of Poland =0AStart Time: 7:08:56 PM Length: 11:48 Minutes =0AVarious Chicag= o street performances captured in March 2008 as field recordings. It is my = sound vision of Chicago's downtown. =0A=0A15. =91Boarding Pass=92 by David = Fodel of Colorado =0AStart Time: 7:20 PM Length: 2:41 Minutes =0ABetween 20= 05 and 2007, I traveled back and forth to Chicago as part=0Aof my work. Alo= ng the way, I recorded hundreds of small cell-phone=0Amovies of the process= of getting on and off commercial airplanes. =0A=0A16. =91To the Water=92 b= y Noleian Reusse of Chicago, IL =0AStart Time: 7:23:29 PM Length: 6:10 Minu= tes =0A=91To the Waves=92 is an interpretive documentation of traveling thr= ough the city to get to the lake. =0A=0A17. =91CHI-TAPE, Excerpt 1=92 by Me= ri von KleinSmid of Vancouver, Canada =0AStart Time: 7:29:41 PM Length: 8:3= 4 Minutes =0AThis is not a love letter to Chicago, but a sprawling sonic=0A= megalopolis of religious testimonials, advertising jingles, gospel=0Amusic,= public service announcements, fractured language, and popular=0Asongs from= Chicagoland area radio, all corrupted by some of the=0Athinnest, cheapest = cassette tape stock in the world. This track is not=0Aposted on the net rel= ease per the artist's request. =0A=0A18. =91Jumping Over Koons=92 by Rory S= hackles/Idle of Chicago, IL =0AStart Time: 07:38:17 PM Length: 7:21 Minutes= =0AThis piece is composed of two recordings - a field recording taken=0Aat= the Museum of Contemporary Art in Chicago during the Jeff Koons=0Aexhibiti= on, and a live recording of a skipping compact disc player. =0A=0A19. =91Fr= ee Sound=92 by Alfonso Carrasco Martz of Spain =0AStart Time: 7:45:36 PM Le= ngth: 5:28 Minutes =0APlaying with a simple tonal theme and field recording= s made in=0ABarcelona, I try to find similarities and differences between b= oth=0Asound art and electronic music. =0A=0A20. =91Chicago Downtown Train E= pisode=92 by Peter of Noise Inc of Poland =0AStart Time: 7:51:06 PM Length:= 13:53 Minutes =0AOn the train and in the buildings of Chicago and processe= d with gleetchlab, this work is a 100% live performance. =0A=0A21. =91Lovel= y Banalities=92 by Gintas K of Lithuania =0AStart Time: 8:07:00 PM Length: = 2:26 Minutes =0AMy primary interest is studying the physical effects of sou= nd on=0Athe human psyche. For this study, I utilize sine waves, digital sou= nds,=0Aexpressive synthesized tones, noises and complex rhythmical structur= es. =0A=0A22. =91CHI_TAPE, Excerpt 2=92 by Meri von KleinSmid of Vancouver,= Canada =0AStart Time: 8:09:28 PM Length: 6:17 Minutes =0ACHI-TAPE is an ex= perimental music composition created in Chicago,=0AIllinois in 1992 =97 wit= h only one cassette tape and one tape=0Arecorder-radio unit. This is not a = love letter to Chicago, but a=0Asprawling sonic megalopolis corrupted by so= me of the thinnest, cheapest=0Acassette tape stock in the world. This track= is not posted on the net=0Arelease per the artist's request. =0A=0A23. =91= Topography of Darkness=92 by Martin Bedard of Montreal, Canada =0AStart Tim= e: 8:15:47 PM Length: 3:57 Minutes =0AThis work is inspired by the principa= l character of the novel, Notes of a Night Watchman by Alexandre Zinoviev. = =0A=0A24. =91Anechoic Pulse Excerpt=92 by A. Kokoras of Greece =0AStart Tim= e: 8:19:46 PM Length: 5:00 Minutes =0AThis sound material, not easily recog= nized most of the time,=0Aundergoes a rather simple transformation in terms= of sound processing=0Ausing editing tools. The piece ends with tiny stroke= s of a metallic=0Astick hitting a 19-inch timpani. This net release feature= s a 5 minute=0Aexcept of the original piece. More on the artist:=0Awww.pana= yiotiskokoras.com =0A=0A25. =91106th Street Bridge=92 by Joshua Manchester = of Chicago, IL =0AStart Time: 8:29:32 PM Length: 8:20 Minutes =0AThe indust= ries that once reigned supreme in South Chicago have left=0Asome monumental= scars on the area, from a swamp filled in with slag, to=0Amassive quarter-= mile walls that used to contain coal. Standing on the=0A106th Street Bridge= , you catch a glimpse of that old Chicago. =0A=0A26. =91Sra=92 by Fran=C1oi= s Dumeaux of France =0AStart Time: 8:37:54 PM Length: 5:20 Minutes =0APi=CB= ce compos=C8e =87 la demande d'Annette Vande Gorne, pour le concert=0A- ann= iversaire des 80 ans de Bernard Parmegiani, festival L'Espace du=0ASon, Bru= xelles. =0A=0A27. =91Bastet=92 by Elsa Justel of France =0AStart Time: 8:43= :16 PM Length: 10:48 Minutes =0ABastet, inspired by the Egyptian cat-goddes= s, was commissioned by=0AAprem-Nevers. The piece starts in the interior reg= ions of the piano.=0ABewildered by these unfamiliar surroundings, she tries= to escape whilst=0Ascratching the strings. This work explores the meaning = of ambiguity,=0Ainstability and chance. =0A=0A28. =91Leaving Chicago=92 by = Thomas Park/Mystified of St. Louis, MO =0AStart Time: 8:54 PM Length: 5:10 = Minutes =0AChicago is a kind of dream city to me, being a place with=0Aincr= edible scenery, architecture, culture, and excitement. After a=0Arecent vis= it, I tried to capture the sadness I felt when leaving this=0Agreat city by= train. =0A=0A=0A --0-1843012839-1219725873=:42938 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Various Artists- This Is Not A Test
    =

    Released by Treetrunk 

    http://www.archive.org/details/This_Is_Not_A_Te= st

    This very special release from Treetrunk documents and celeb= rates an=0Aevent that happened August 11, 2008 at the Jay Pritzker Pavilion= in=0AChicago, Illinois. The event was called "This Is Not A Test: The=0ACh= icago Sound Experience" and was one of a series of=0AAudio Picnics at the P= avilion, designed to provide visitors with free=0Aand enjoyable audio exper= iences. The event was quite successful,=0Adrawing a large and attentive cro= wd. It lasted for 3 hours, from 6 to 9=0APM.

    Co= ncert Curator: Margaret Noble

    http://margaretn= oble.net/


    Web Cura= tor: Thomas Park

    http://www.mystifiedmusic.com= /

    Additional Track Information:= =0A

    This information was gathered from the program for the Au= dio Picnic. Track numbers pertain to the original track order.=0A

    NO= TES:


    - Track 1, "= Vritti", is available for previewing from the artist's upcoming release.=0A=

    - The tracks, "CHI-TAPE Excerpts 1 and 2" by Meri von KleinSmid are= not available on this release.=0A

    - Ms. Noble would like to encoura= ge the listeners to hear the tracks=0Ain the order of the program because s= he feels this arrangement had a=0Aparticular flow.=0A

    1. =91Vritti= =92 by Jen-Kuang Chang of Lincoln, NE =0A
    Start Time: 6:05 PM Length: = 3:39 Minutes=0A
    Vritti is a sonic poem depicting the fluctuation of huma= n conscious=0Aduring the meditative state, using computer-generated sounds,= acoustic=0Ainstruments and field recordings. This piece is not posted on t= he=0Anetrelease, per the artist's request, but it is available for=0Aprevie= wing from his upcoming release. More on the artist:=0Awww.myspace.com/jenku= angchang=0A

    2. =91Shikaakwa=92 by David Schmudde of Chicago, IL =0A<= br>Start Time: 6:08:41 PM Length: 3:20 Minutes=0A
    All residents of Chica= go know the instant reprieve that the=0Acrashing waves provide when they fa= ce east and allow the temporal=0Anature of the city to be drowned out by th= e endless ebb and flow of=0ALake Michigan.=0A

    3. =91Lone Constructio= n Cry=92 by Peter Cusack of London, UK =0A
    Start Time: 6:12:03 PM Length= : 4:27 Minutes=0A
    Field recording of central Chicago - recorded from a d= owntown 16th floor window on Saturday the 24the of July 2004.=0A

    4. = =91The Ambient Wasp=92 by Krispen Hartung of Boise, ID =0A
    Start Time: = 6:16:32 PM Length: 5:11 Minutes=0A
    A captured a wasp in its nest before = winter hibernation. In a small=0Aceramic jar, free breathing and frustrated= , this creature=92s fury was=0Arecorded and processed.=0A

    5. =91Lake= Station=92 by Teresa Gale of Chicago, IL =0A
    Start Time: 06:21:45 PM Le= ngth: 1:10 Minutes=0A
    =91Your Favorite Chicago Sounds=94 project: CTA ri= ders file through=0Aturnstiles at the Red Line "Lake" station, amidst ongoi= ng repairs and=0Arenovation.=0A

    6. =91True Crime=92 by Thomas Park /= Mystified of St. Louis, MO =0A
    Start Time: 6:22:57 PM Length: 4:46 Minu= tes=0A
    "True Crime" is a darkly funny sample collage hearkening back to = the days of Prohibition in Chicago.=0A

    7. =91Taste and See=92 by Pet= er Joseph of Santa Fe, New Mexico =0A
    Start Time: 6:27:45 PM Length: 5:2= 4 Minutes=0A
    The church and parish of St. Michael's on the near north si= de dates=0Afrom before the time of the Chicago fire. In the fall of 2005 I= =0Areturned to the church where I sang in the 7th grade choir some 35=0Ayea= rs later. These are composed of field recordings made between Sept=0Aand De= c 2005.=0A

    8. =91A Spoon Full of Sugar=92 by Teresa Gale of Chicago,= IL =0A
    Start Time: 6:33:11 PM Length: 2:04 Minutes=0A
    Your Favorite = Chicago Sounds project: a holiday window display at=0Athe State Street Macy= 's features audio by Mary Poppins with a playful=0Aaccompaniment by a Salva= tion Army volunteer.=0A

    9. =91Grant Park=92 by Jennifer Swann of Chi= cago, IL =0A
    Start Time: 6:35:17 PM Length: 2:20 Minutes=0A
    Swann ref= lects on Chicago through her experiences watching the seasons change over t= he last year in downtown's Grant Park. =0A

    10. =91The Astrolabe=92 b= y Eleazar Garzon of Argentina =0A
    Start Time: 6:37:39 PM Length: 10:07 M= inutes=0A
    =93The Astrolabe of Eleazar=94 was made with sounds produced b= y cross=0Asynthesis and samples of orchestral-alike sounds transformed by= =0Afilters, granular synthesis and Ocarina-alike sound played by the=0Acomp= oser.=0A

    11. =91Dying Underground=92 by Alfonso Carrasco Martz of Sp= ain =0A
    Start Time: 6:47:48 PM Length: 6:28 Minutes=0A
    The media show= s conflicts around the world every day, and we are so used to this barbarit= y that we have learned to ignore it.=0A

    12. =91Kira=92s Murder=92 by= Margaret Noble of San Diego, CA=0A
    Start Time: 6:54:18 PM Length: 3:11 = Minutes=0A
    On June 26th of 2007, Kira Simonian, a beautiful and talented= =0AChicago artist, student and friend was brutally murdered. One year=0Alat= er it was revealed that the murderer was her husband. This piece is=0Aa dir= ect response to the shock and brutality of this crime. More on the=0Aartist= : http://margaretnoble.net=0A

    13. =91Untitled #209=92 by Francisco L= opez of San Francisco, CA=0A
    Start Time: 7:00:00 PM Length: 8:54 Minutes= =0A
    http://www.franciscolopez.net=0A

    14. =91Chicago_Street_Perfor= mers Episode=92 by Peter Noise Inc of Poland=0A
    Start Time: 7:08:56 PM L= ength: 11:48 Minutes=0A
    Various Chicago street performances captured in = March 2008 as field recordings. It is my sound vision of Chicago's downtown= .=0A

    15. =91Boarding Pass=92 by David Fodel of Colorado =0A
    Start= Time: 7:20 PM Length: 2:41 Minutes=0A
    Between 2005 and 2007, I traveled= back and forth to Chicago as part=0Aof my work. Along the way, I recorded = hundreds of small cell-phone=0Amovies of the process of getting on and off = commercial airplanes.

    16. =91To the Water=92 by Noleian Reusse of C= hicago, IL =0A
    Start Time: 7:23:29 PM Length: 6:10 Minutes=0A
    =91To t= he Waves=92 is an interpretive documentation of traveling through the city = to get to the lake.=0A

    17. =91CHI-TAPE, Excerpt 1=92 by Meri von Kle= inSmid of Vancouver, Canada=0A
    Start Time: 7:29:41 PM Length: 8:34 Minut= es=0A
    This is not a love letter to Chicago, but a sprawling sonic=0Amega= lopolis of religious testimonials, advertising jingles, gospel=0Amusic, pub= lic service announcements, fractured language, and popular=0Asongs from Chi= cagoland area radio, all corrupted by some of the=0Athinnest, cheapest cass= ette tape stock in the world. This track is not=0Aposted on the net release= per the artist's request.=0A

    18. =91Jumping Over Koons=92 by Rory S= hackles/Idle of Chicago, IL =0A
    Start Time: 07:38:17 PM Length: 7:21 Min= utes=0A
    This piece is composed of two recordings - a field recording tak= en=0Aat the Museum of Contemporary Art in Chicago during the Jeff Koons=0Ae= xhibition, and a live recording of a skipping compact disc player.

    = 19. =91Free Sound=92 by Alfonso Carrasco Martz of Spain=0A
    Start Time: 7= :45:36 PM Length: 5:28 Minutes=0A
    Playing with a simple tonal theme and = field recordings made in=0ABarcelona, I try to find similarities and differ= ences between both=0Asound art and electronic music.

    20. =91Chicago= Downtown Train Episode=92 by Peter of Noise Inc of Poland=0A
    Start Time= : 7:51:06 PM Length: 13:53 Minutes=0A
    On the train and in the buildings = of Chicago and processed with gleetchlab, this work is a 100% live performa= nce.=0A

    21. =91Lovely Banalities=92 by Gintas K of Lithuania=0A
    S= tart Time: 8:07:00 PM Length: 2:26 Minutes=0A
    My primary interest is stu= dying the physical effects of sound on=0Athe human psyche. For this study, = I utilize sine waves, digital sounds,=0Aexpressive synthesized tones, noise= s and complex rhythmical structures.=0A

    22. =91CHI_TAPE, Excerpt 2= =92 by Meri von KleinSmid of Vancouver, Canada =0A
    Start Time: 8:09:28 P= M Length: 6:17 Minutes=0A
    CHI-TAPE is an experimental music composition = created in Chicago,=0AIllinois in 1992 =97 with only one cassette tape and = one tape=0Arecorder-radio unit. This is not a love letter to Chicago, but a= =0Asprawling sonic megalopolis corrupted by some of the thinnest, cheapest= =0Acassette tape stock in the world. This track is not posted on the net=0A= release per the artist's request.=0A

    23. =91Topography of Darkness= =92 by Martin Bedard of Montreal, Canada=0A
    Start Time: 8:15:47 PM Lengt= h: 3:57 Minutes=0A
    This work is inspired by the principal character of t= he novel, Notes of a Night Watchman by Alexandre Zinoviev.=0A

    24. = =91Anechoic Pulse Excerpt=92 by A. Kokoras of Greece=0A
    Start Time: 8:19= :46 PM Length: 5:00 Minutes=0A
    This sound material, not easily recognize= d most of the time,=0Aundergoes a rather simple transformation in terms of = sound processing=0Ausing editing tools. The piece ends with tiny strokes of= a metallic=0Astick hitting a 19-inch timpani. This net release features a = 5 minute=0Aexcept of the original piece. More on the artist:=0Awww.panayiot= iskokoras.com=0A

    25. =91106th Street Bridge=92 by Joshua Manchester = of Chicago, IL =0A
    Start Time: 8:29:32 PM Length: 8:20 Minutes=0A
    The= industries that once reigned supreme in South Chicago have left=0Asome mon= umental scars on the area, from a swamp filled in with slag, to=0Amassive q= uarter-mile walls that used to contain coal. Standing on the=0A106th Street= Bridge, you catch a glimpse of that old Chicago.

    26. =91Sra=92 by = Fran=C1ois Dumeaux of France=0A
    Start Time: 8:37:54 PM Length: 5:20 Minu= tes=0A
    Pi=CBce compos=C8e =87 la demande d'Annette Vande Gorne, pour le = concert=0A- anniversaire des 80 ans de Bernard Parmegiani, festival L'Espac= e du=0ASon, Bruxelles.=0A

    27. =91Bastet=92 by Elsa Justel of France= =0A
    Start Time: 8:43:16 PM Length: 10:48 Minutes=0A
    Bastet, inspired = by the Egyptian cat-goddess, was commissioned by=0AAprem-Nevers. The piece = starts in the interior regions of the piano.=0ABewildered by these unfamili= ar surroundings, she tries to escape whilst=0Ascratching the strings. This = work explores the meaning of ambiguity,=0Ainstability and chance.=0A
    28. =91Leaving Chicago=92 by Thomas Park/Mystified of St. Louis, MO =0AStart Time: 8:54 PM Length: 5:10 Minutes=0A
    Chicago is a kind of dream = city to me, being a place with=0Aincredible scenery, architecture, culture,= and excitement. After a=0Arecent visit, I tried to capture the sadness I f= elt when leaving this=0Agreat city by train.=0A



    =0A=0A --0-1843012839-1219725873=:42938-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 05:11:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C3BF3BF01; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0x8///WUlxlKY7V4dIy9SEAb8cgYjqJSNaJzS8JQhPk=; b=oO2jL60m5cAsz/LtwfwVEHKtd69m6YovNHE9y58O3jxFohHPtBY2MwEXRH0JUhSRxA BemHH+JFOEENeuO7m2MskJMiSo/67SYwqAAz8BlL28pDpCdDpVqcZstuwq6aDnmrBC5p c/7m9ZIyCed5R5+KUBBLDKFwJq2fxtDGlSRC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=V+61ml9T/vUhzqYQLfYl9Y+cfYpaIhUs/B+4iKTMwfzcfBHoRpSasdXC7fQmoURLCl +eH0HOqkzRy3UKwYyIY2vZgVWxOxetuhZErioTVo1FDmWl8zMbeiSHVsRNFoJH1ucnKz 1ucujn1MZaCKIhx5BTOLLgtGQ+gKfnJ4rVoM8= Message-ID: <588ce11d0808252211v22d39b6eufc674f917955c960@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:11:16 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: my looping on radio lab podcast In-Reply-To: <968659.20817.qm@web45305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6E05DED6-4BEE-41C1-BEF7-B6A2D73BC2D6@zoekeating.com> <968659.20817.qm@web45305.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:11:17 +0000 (UTC) I'm listening to it right now. Thanks! On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Tim Nelson wrote: > I caught Radio Lab's outstanding 'War of the Worlds' broadcast 4 or 5 months ago and remember at the very end of the show thinking "Hey, that cello sounds like Zoe Keating!", about ten seconds before they gave you a nice plug! > > -t- > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, info at zoekeating wrote: > >> From: info at zoekeating >> Subject: my looping on radio lab podcast >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 6:41 PM >> a little while back i chatted and looped for jad abumrad for >> a Radio >> Lab podcast. >> even if you don't listen to the podcast, check out the >> show. it is my >> favorite radio program right now. >> >> here is is... >> >> http://blogs.wnyc.org/radiolab/2008/08/25/quantum-cello/ > > > > > -- Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 06:31:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE7243BF0A; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <2E052E3A-52E6-4BEE-8319-B56D02D65831@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List In-Reply-To: <634237.663.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:30:31 -0300 References: <634237.663.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:31:04 +0000 (UTC) LOL well, what do you do if the singer is totally out of tune? or a cimbal stand falls over in a silent part? I made many beautiful shows with painters and crossfaded slides and manipulations on retro-projectors (better resolution than HD! :-) and boiling slides and projections on dancers and... ...it all depends on the flux of the improvisation! - and the talent of the painter ;-) I stopped doing it because I realized that most people prefered to close their eyes and do their own trip along with the music, which I believe brings more evolution... hug Matthias On 25 Aug 2008, at 23:49, L.A. Angulo wrote: > can you imagine improvising to an simple image that starts to change > in colors beautifully and then turns into an eternal tunnel and you > get all into it and the music becomes almost the image and you > start grooving with each other and just as people start to dream and > sync to it,there is an abrupt picture change of a goat in a snowy > field starting at you? > i mean what do you play? people just burst into fucking laughter and > at the end the guy doing the images on his laptop had to pay for all > our drinks! > Luis > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, RP Collier wrote: > >> From: RP Collier >> Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 5:05 PM >> On Aug 25, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: >> >>> There's a term for the mind's tendency to find >> these sort of >>> connections where there aren't any, but I >> can't recall it right now. >> >> Perhaps apophenia: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia >> >> >> regards >> >> >> BobC >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j >> >> http://www.youtube.com/tynego > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 06:37:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD8283BF0D; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <1ED2B59F-8468-46B1-B215-EA60A8F96218@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List In-Reply-To: <995654.57654.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: Maybe OT--editing of film Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:37:25 -0300 References: <995654.57654.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:37:48 +0000 (UTC) >> My question >> to this esteemed group is: >> Is there a parallel to this in music? can we experience >> different >> "locations" in music in the same piece? >> sure! to control reverb time with a pedal is half the way the other half is to imagine such music for some reason people always found that my music was like soundtracks I dont watch horror films and don't like shocks and always found the flow through the scenes fundamental thats why I hardly use presets, only sliders on the ground... I also keep claiming that we keep in the same spot as long as FeedBack is full and start traveling when we reduce it! Pink Floyd and Richard Wagner tought me a lot ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 07:45:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDE703BF02; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=AkgAG0/DZaDkPg/PuUraC7oxQ0EhwXg5Y0k+s1c78PE=; b=uYlTqSLKnnh5tgrUcSagQEbJuHxG/baljCf8uyUN4gadfq/L3mTi6Mq2QwpU5107au Xe/ud+jwP5ts1AuOpdMQEFfzxKx2/72F/EqDA3qtFxwmzz4PV7yUR8GrRYUYbSrEdKcN IL6fIHubCbO1XIjOTxCTlMdTEBkq/DSAQ8324= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=xd66Kgua4YHUPerCK0AsLAgPj/ZL6YEQiRM5bsg6rlNJ26ItYvUlkLqm/r5W69qthJ 9IIg6f9GCP9C1MipuWI8vvAbavz0S//iSuv1Az2F+y6PUfOPioPvl3UYOit4mAUA2rRd 7SNx5klurelwNXupL+zWi+p8T4tA+DyU06X/Y= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808260045x27df6effmce705e7e23211c01@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:45:16 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: audio to midi vst plugins In-Reply-To: <60511.69.73.1219707085.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <60511.69.73.1219707085.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:45:16 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa wro= te: > Hi, > > I'm seriously thinking of going the software route as much as possible an= d > was wondering ifanyone using these in their setup? > Is the tracking any good? > What about melodyne? > > Andre I too was hoping Melodyne could do audo to midi conversion in real-time, but as Chris I found that it is not working. However, for desktop music production Melodyne produces very useful midi sequences out of any (already) recorded piece of audio. I performed for a while with a guitar equipped with MIDI pickups but today I have taken a different direction by also playing a MIDI only instrument (EWI) in parallel with the guitar or whatever acoustic instrument I might be using. I found that it is possible to play musically better MIDI if using a MIDI instrument than if using an acoustic/electric instrument and convert the audio to MIDI. --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 10:08:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 629C03BF01; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 162105643/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuIAAN5ys0g+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAIuBWBaw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,269,1217804400"; d="scan'208";a="162105643" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, scott hansen Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:08:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: simplify guitar rig Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <48B3E427.1969.481F03@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <579736.10901.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <579736.10901.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:08:33 +0000 (UTC) On 25 Aug 2008 at 12:55, scott hansen wrote: > behringer tweakilzer I've got one of these and wired cables to the record/play buttons, allowing footswitch control. A lot of fun for a little money. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 11:54:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8C643BF00; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:53:59 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808260045x27df6effmce705e7e23211c01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080826115359.19930@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <60511.69.73.1219707085.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <66f9cc1e0808260045x27df6effmce705e7e23211c01@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: audio to midi vst plugins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+ckMUK4umcUHuMydpNkBDRx4Zwu2x3Hp+ySa4jOn UeCMLDK9sR1mdJjr8i6sjHtv/D7wOOWvkk1g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: sYrbBfJmbHIhI9sjwjU0RPoiJihyahD6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:54:02 +0000 (UTC) > I too was hoping Melodyne could do audo to midi conversion in > real-time, but as Chris I found that it is not working. I used Melodyne a little bit and found it quite thrilling. I've been thinking a bit in this diretion - would this kind of work? 1. Record a live loop in real-time (audio) and keep it running 2. Press a pedal that triggers a script: "Pick up the audio file of the loop, send it to Melodyne. Return a MIDI file. Play the MIDI file as a loop." Since the loop is already running in real-time, the midi conversion by Melodyne wouldn't have to be in real-time. Do you think this would work? best regards Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 12:00:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 383C13BEF9; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=J0IshEaI/zok+yIWdmGtJwbPGs6cFLu3dR5VKHEh/gM=; b=eORQTm9J1iYPn7zs7DdOc/xfhzSD3AVZ6iEkHyR+GU9bBF5x8+6Vm49F+FHTPL/cDM BNVgl6mwEqgYWhi37jsA9t/9zRqNLpzAEhHdmSwJ+3b1JIch0S1WAuOw1bEQ0rVvmwAn bTs7q1LtO6YZYF1zGbj+n4wDi7bvFQ7595Vxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qZQEiBYaXmw7o5+vTrOvctwdZFARFM5oQ9thUZOi3F5kE8sh74A+U0cWAYnfgK9bvR K8nPZk748aykufnNSEFwY24IABeKsUkDBRpy1DnH9oBEbxIVK1tBxt7k6xEnvzwcBoY8 O7mmxkByl5KmQMwboFFLvBIvfsQIVuDy6XCV0= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:43 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mini review: BOSS SL-20 SLICER-LOOPER pedal In-Reply-To: <43F68DF7-436F-4A82-9A15-C71F46DC2483@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_84568_27369496.1219752043643" References: <002a01c905fa$ad2b0390$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <000901c9067c$afaf9180$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0808250034s33b0a032m7d2a28d94b84d726@mail.gmail.com> <43F68DF7-436F-4A82-9A15-C71F46DC2483@zerocrossing.net> Resent-Message-ID: <-APgpC.A.25E.sB_sIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:00:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_84568_27369496.1219752043643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i really like SupaTrigga - http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1477.html On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Another great glitch VST is Audio Damage's Replicant and it will reorder > your slices plus a lot more... > > I'm going to have to check out this TB Cairo too! > > ------=_Part_84568_27369496.1219752043643 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    i really like SupaTrigga - http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1477.html

    On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote:
    Another great glitch VST is Audio Damage's Replicant and it will reorder your slices plus a lot more...

    I'm going to have to check out this TB Cairo too!

    ------=_Part_84568_27369496.1219752043643-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 12:12:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0AA83BF04; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:11:58 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <011c01c9072a$5ed29650$6401a8c0@williamsteed> Message-ID: <20080826121158.19950@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <011c01c9072a$5ed29650$6401a8c0@williamsteed> Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+T9gI4xUiT4hWYFTwX8vlL9P41dIwgufi6mid3m1 Bz00IqPEcawli6vRxhj9YZZZ8WQoGsug9kmA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: b5rGe/8yODB6LsN6iGVMnZM9Ji9SWhKo Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi Erdem I guess I would go with an analog tube preamp/stompbox and then either Boss GT10 or laptop setup. Once you're used to a rich anlaog gain sound, imo you won't be happy with the digital counterparts... Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 12:18:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F9BA3BF0D; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01a701c90775$d26f3000$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: Subject: Cologne Live Looping festival on line (podcast) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:18:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C90786.953943E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: smtp5.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:18:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C90786.953943E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, finally, the Cologne live looping festival, held last 31st Maj is = on line and freely downloadable. It's not the entire festival, but a 52 minutes selection of all sets, = following the running order of the show, to caught the original flux = from set to set. The sound is really good and the podcast contains also some photos from = both the Cologne and the Berlin Loopfestival, held a week later in = Berlin and organized by Leander (to whom i tributed a ...."cameo" in the = podcast) I apologise in advatage if the selection doesn't fit the feeling of the = orginal author: it just "my" selection....=20 If you want to have on the podcast a different section of your sets, = please send it to me and i'll "upgrade" the podcast, according to your = needs. I have to re-post my big thank to Michael Peters, for the enjoiable time = i spent in that so great and well organized festival. I.tunes users can access here: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=3D251129= 406 (if you are using i.tunes,you can surf between "chapters", jumping = straight to the desidered set) No i.tunes users can copy and paste this link into their favourite = podcast browser: www.eterogeneo.com/live_looping/live_looping.xml Hope you'll like it. Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C90786.953943E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hey, finally, the = Cologne live=20 looping festival, held last 31st  Maj is on line and = freely=20 downloadable.
     
    It's not the entire = festival, but a=20 52 minutes selection of all sets, following the running order of the = show, to=20 caught the original flux from set to set.
    The sound is really = good and the=20 podcast contains also some photos from both the Cologne and the Berlin=20 Loopfestival, held a week later in Berlin and organized by Leander (to = whom i=20 tributed a ...."cameo" in the podcast)
     
    I apologise in advatage = if the=20 selection doesn't fit the feeling of the orginal author: it just = "my"=20 selection.... 
    If you want to have on = the podcast=20 a different section of your sets, please send it to me and i'll = "upgrade" the=20 podcast, according to your needs.
     
    I have to re-post = my big thank=20 to Michael Peters, for the enjoiable time i spent in that so great and = well=20 organized festival.
     
    I.tunes users can = access=20 here:
    http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?= id=3D251129406
    (if you are using = i.tunes,you can=20 surf  between "chapters", jumping straight to the=20 desidered set)
     
    No i.tunes users can = copy and paste=20 this link into their favourite podcast browser:
    www.eter= ogeneo.com/live_looping/live_looping.xml
     
    Hope you'll like = it.
     
    Fabio
    www.eterogeneo.com
    www.myspace.com/eterogeneo=
    ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C90786.953943E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 12:32:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A9503BF00; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GbzIHiWqndjo2VX3RSs7v3K/F+rr86E9ioW05+MVN68=; b=nYFOlfAFKb0yILqZsQL71s+qpX4z1aDmO6K/PO76WGQnRumETmQaRG8tYtrI12G8Qz pRO6vA7nc+m4Qwuw5xl7r7O9JkEpHktFvHqzbX8piqNlhV5ACZBpF3sPXFRlv+Lv2bFi wbJd0sYsfEMvQzYXH43cmxyqhFXR/pC4QXbCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=nFZ1IC22g65WRwhTlnYD+F+Yr+Lz/k8cEcGS30Mkakb9GrhNe92mp07Mkm6xy8ILNe Y7TG56qfGEKmbHEf9+4FUu6lxT5P0FBoKun7n3mu0QDwfjUnQSi86CWK9N0yNIF5mLuF BA+AS1vL/MJTqiTeTOAeLEJEehHOmlZrNMxdU= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808260532u62b231a5oac49c159159396b0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:32:41 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: audio to midi vst plugins In-Reply-To: <20080826115359.19930@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <60511.69.73.1219707085.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <66f9cc1e0808260045x27df6effmce705e7e23211c01@mail.gmail.com> <20080826115359.19930@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:32:43 +0000 (UTC) >> I too was hoping Melodyne could do audo to midi conversion in >> real-time, but as Chris I found that it is not working. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > I used Melodyne a little bit and found it quite thrilling. > I've been thinking a bit in this diretion - would this kind of work? > > 1. Record a live loop in real-time (audio) and keep it running > 2. Press a pedal that triggers a script: > "Pick up the audio file of the loop, send it to Melodyne. Return a MIDI file. Play the MIDI file as a loop." > > Since the loop is already running in real-time, the midi conversion by Melodyne wouldn't have to be in real-time. > > Do you think this would work? It will definitely work in a technical sense. But since you're asking me I must say that I don't think it would work (for me, that is) in a musical sense. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 13:00:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C2FD3BF04; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=0h1nLbLH7RkxhSyj63p5nFAaeb6ubkid4OKOxjLF7E8=; b=F9K+eWd9CM39vfu31FbllEXsmfy26/5KSSPa/USuNqiliyE6sfm7v/dnyYA/NBz6sd BZsGFegge/0bMnAV+LLvHF7GB/40fObdWPnzvNizgRI7so55tsw7lGgByazOmZ32CBk9 exlSu3F0txU119AbYVJ8XZC3q7TEg2z2w5850= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=xbUtlbmqBcd9MtExN9zSt5qVm4i0EMghEdpli7ymuMJfZAW8jtfybDi36jaNe3ZCb2 AuIpf2uc1+mnjpK8wkISwCnXBb4UIORdIRWMHdsU64vn+mdXn5b/BzBffJQ0N3hDjH4V h9novp3FceYCwR7gCNAiEvzv+V9K+QlrsOld4= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808260600p7ea1f01as5051c55f08acf87f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:00:47 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: Smooth Groovers plays Per Boysen & Costas Andreou MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi friends, We are so happy that they play our album at this groovy podcast station! We're making weird instrumental music and these guys put us on the play list with Isaac Hayes and Alicia Keys... http://www.smoothgroovers.com/ Quoting their Friends Section: "Per Boysen and Costas Androu with 'Fish Of Fortune' - From their new album This is an interesting track from an excellent album called Nanetora. Nanetora is the first-fruit of a long distance collaboration between Per Boysen (Sweden) and Costas Andreou (Greece)." -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 14:43:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 174D93BF04; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=e2WAkLju7qS2UIA2UQRG+3rShUD6YzG2EYHGLoRTp9M=; b=GBifY42ahh4BFLOFYUAriGRrr4RNLRpGCpkBEqWi1XwVtcWid5aP/UlK8SmkUum7R5 GlMAddTkcrrxgcby5l6x+Ay03bi1uTphpr4+MyZ93gN9PVaU7TQK0ni64eUFJGXkxjNB TAIwZy7AHJ7RZNOawBFcQVYSOUL0XlRALYknw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=LpBKZ4RbGaJM+3WrQ+Cq/mc5BTXSkmJKiuLz9nKB3ol9Uv1j4PPRadc8beOjWaUyKj 2tJZvyNDeghihKIYtLITcriFQhoiGUNn86JIpyQfMFt7P9OQCEt4VwaUJZG0/R+xv/DA kRprsJxQM5HpKuQ4AK0Qwnfg7FE0j26mnMMQI= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:43:39 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Cologne Live Looping festival on line (podcast) In-Reply-To: <01a701c90775$d26f3000$4001a8c0@pcfabio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5701_2759843.1219761819034" References: <01a701c90775$d26f3000$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Resent-Message-ID: <2HH_M.A.WHB.daBtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:43:41 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5701_2759843.1219761819034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline yippie! ... thanks again! 2008/8/26 e t e r o g e n e o > Hey, finally, the Cologne live looping festival, held last 31st Maj is > on line and freely downloadable. > > It's not the entire festival, but a 52 minutes selection of all sets, > following the running order of the show, to caught the original flux from > set to set. > The sound is really good and the podcast contains also some photos from > both the Cologne and the Berlin Loopfestival, held a week later in Berlin > and organized by Leander (to whom i tributed a ...."cameo" in the podcast) > > I apologise in advatage if the selection doesn't fit the feeling of the > orginal author: it just "my" selection.... > If you want to have on the podcast a different section of your sets, please > send it to me and i'll "upgrade" the podcast, according to your needs. > > I have to re-post my big thank to Michael Peters, for the enjoiable time i > spent in that so great and well organized festival. > > I.tunes users can access here: > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=251129406 > (if you are using i.tunes,you can surf between "chapters", jumping > straight to the desidered set) > > No i.tunes users can copy and paste this link into their favourite podcast > browser: > www.eterogeneo.com/live_looping/live_looping.xml > > Hope you'll like it. > > Fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_5701_2759843.1219761819034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    yippie! ... 
    thanks again!



    2008/8/26 e t e r o g e n e o <info@eterogeneo.com>
    Hey, finally, the Cologne live looping festival, held last 31st  Maj is on line and freely downloadable.
     
    It's not the entire festival, but a 52 minutes selection of all sets, following the running order of the show, to caught the original flux from set to set.
    The sound is really good and the podcast contains also some photos from both the Cologne and the Berlin Loopfestival, held a week later in Berlin and organized by Leander (to whom i tributed a ...."cameo" in the podcast)
     
    I apologise in advatage if the selection doesn't fit the feeling of the orginal author: it just "my" selection.... 
    If you want to have on the podcast a different section of your sets, please send it to me and i'll "upgrade" the podcast, according to your needs.
     
    I have to re-post my big thank to Michael Peters, for the enjoiable time i spent in that so great and well organized festival.
     
    I.tunes users can access here:
    (if you are using i.tunes,you can surf  between "chapters", jumping straight to the desidered set)
     
    No i.tunes users can copy and paste this link into their favourite podcast browser:
     
    Hope you'll like it.
     



    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
    ------=_Part_5701_2759843.1219761819034-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 14:48:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 212143BF0B; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=NHv7Kmx8pEkhO158eF+3QuyW9CniHUHHIZwaEbUtGkU=; b=lMA+s7W12S0OvpsbJspmyw+o3iJ5KhvqVHOGZCsceOUNtdZcAfwEzxICziERhaM4MO 3C+tUX3fzcyAQ65dzt6eRHoSgYWQ9GCczKhYC5xDstjmyjdKDH/cYA/qCJ+byACcibfN XHVdMsLKEnGhQUiM3eqz/jI4TZuVzN21o5ddU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=chU6y82gj9L8xrpFvjnmiIvEDuELiwJB5zrYfDpFnDGFj5e+sgmBRj9a3Xbl9uFoTw erRNhX8vL1iof7la9AtelZwXwU7Q1oly/3NDE1YHO8YodAsYtaQO7UUv8O2Qb9pokuz1 pBoIj5C9ezUYHQZtY5dQmywQTKbpzF1VWFapo= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:48:16 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Smooth Groovers plays Per Boysen & Costas Andreou In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808260600p7ea1f01as5051c55f08acf87f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5780_4617317.1219762096928" References: <66f9cc1e0808260600p7ea1f01as5051c55f08acf87f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:48:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5780_4617317.1219762096928 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline next time you'll beat Brittney for sure! ;-) 2008/8/26 Per Boysen > Hi friends, > > We are so happy that they play our album at this groovy podcast > station! We're making weird instrumental music and these guys put us > on the play list with Isaac Hayes and Alicia Keys... > > http://www.smoothgroovers.com/ > > Quoting their Friends Section: > "Per Boysen and Costas Androu with 'Fish Of Fortune' - From their new album > This is an interesting track from an excellent album called Nanetora. > Nanetora is the first-fruit of a long distance collaboration between > Per Boysen (Sweden) and Costas Andreou (Greece)." > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_5780_4617317.1219762096928 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    next time you'll beat Brittney for sure! ;-)


    2008/8/26 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
    Hi friends,

    We are so happy that they play our album at this groovy podcast
    station! We're making weird instrumental music and these guys put us
    on the play list with Isaac Hayes and Alicia Keys...

    http://www.smoothgroovers.com/

    Quoting their Friends Section:
    "Per Boysen and Costas Androu with 'Fish Of Fortune' - From their new album
    This is an interesting track from an excellent album called Nanetora.
    Nanetora is the first-fruit of a long distance collaboration between
    Per Boysen (Sweden) and Costas Andreou (Greece)."

    --
    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)
    www.myspace.com/perboysen
    www.stockholm-athens.com




    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
    ------=_Part_5780_4617317.1219762096928-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 14:53:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC99E3BF07; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zSwDhrZfzcYdHwHCniByoEWULc7CIjB2RxBrMtmCgnM=; b=QEoAJBOdW8sxOEO6QfRsLt1j9recvuwiFq3Z28JsfWbh/DReAKeXrHFd2yT5S+els2 J/4VJ39CwPoaIQTg9RmhhiV37ddiYpxsFfqZxe9sPUhUcgG14hCpY7IbNujsJwaBiwIH 5i+MgJxBsNNhNZA1DkC2UvSxB4GtJbRbBW3v8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FMYgusnWlei/nfySdMoYUpyT7J/SqcuOo7TaKet+Vkt9tWXa2BRf4IO8qCzQO56H/v 379u7X/GWHV8NdFe4kGsA6K0g8/dD9Go10vQWGSiQrksT0Ki/fXC7H+/pTvufd0KR66I /xmNBVYB2J6wam8JoUJ3nZO3D/xPsJtXBL6yc= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:53:17 -0400 From: "Zak Kramer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify In-Reply-To: <20080826121158.19950@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3823_12527875.1219762397266" References: <011c01c9072a$5ed29650$6401a8c0@williamsteed> <20080826121158.19950@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:53:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3823_12527875.1219762397266 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I agree with both Buzap & Bill re: amps. I used a POD from v1 to a v3 rackmount (XT, I think?) I've played with some of the other boxes, but have no experience with the new software modelers (eg Amplitube.) My feeling, however, is this: If you want a tube amp sound & feel, there's no substitute. However, I come from a very different perspective -- guitar -> looper (usu. EDP) -> amp (either '62 Princeton or Clark Beaufort.) I don't even like having the EDP in front of the amp because I can hear & feel its effect on the signal, and I don't much care for it. Thus, I can't & won't comment on your (to my eyes) gigantic effects toolbox, except to say that it seems to be much easier to model effects & combine them with a purely digital signal flow than it is to replace a tube amp that sounds, feels, and responds like a tube amp. There are plenty of very small amps out there. You can go from an old Champ or Valco to a newer, tweaked out model like a Siegmund Muddy Buddy, which has all of 1 watts, and options for things like line outs, etc. (I've not played a MB, but I have owned a Siegmund Midnight Special, which had a superb sound, esp. clean or low gain. I'm GASsing for a MB bad, tho'...) So I've been able to use a very small guitar rig. Which would be great, but then I also have a dozen or so flutes, and several racks so I can make them accessible on stage, etc... I guess I could model the flutes, but I suspect I'd miss something. ;) -- Zak Kramer Crazyquilt Arts & Music http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_3823_12527875.1219762397266 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I agree with both Buzap & Bill re: amps. I used a POD from v1 to a v3 rackmount (XT, I think?) I've played with some of the other boxes, but have no experience with the new software modelers (eg Amplitube.) My feeling, however, is this: If you want a tube amp sound & feel, there's no substitute. However, I come from a very different perspective -- guitar -> looper (usu. EDP) -> amp (either '62 Princeton or Clark Beaufort.) I don't even like having the EDP in front of the amp because I can hear & feel its effect on the signal, and I don't much care for it. Thus, I can't & won't comment on your (to my eyes) gigantic effects toolbox, except to say that it seems to be much easier to model effects & combine them with a purely digital signal flow than it is to replace a tube amp that sounds, feels, and responds like a tube amp.

    There are plenty of very small amps out there. You can go from an old Champ or Valco to a newer, tweaked out model like a Siegmund Muddy Buddy, which has all of 1 watts, and options for things like line outs, etc. (I've not played a MB, but I have owned a Siegmund Midnight Special, which had a superb sound, esp. clean or low gain. I'm GASsing for a MB bad, tho'...)

    So I've been able to use a very small guitar rig. Which would be great, but then I also have a dozen or so flutes, and several racks so I can make them accessible on stage, etc... I guess I could model the flutes, but I suspect I'd miss something. ;)

    --
    Zak Kramer
    Crazyquilt Arts & Music
     http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/
    ------=_Part_3823_12527875.1219762397266-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 15:05:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5927E3BF11; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=jv71tWCEtfAs6jmXoDH1rd1kaYV5ly+ri4jO1o83ink=; b=xmYBpc/C6Ef0Qt2k2Hg+NEmwumTmYdHfOfgzrGq8ioKt6xQNt0boL69y7kMXmTyN9k YCNndccHbe83ew/GoxnLdKpl69Lqa2f9FCKhCyUejSyEYk8D8vOD6nLHmDCkJiUS6lyY iEGjvfHCLQl7QRXVxSERlnK0JYKAJneDMGtBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ROMXUVXBN7u/26g/luom+Rk05mvLxiPunmfbEAraHTE5JP9mLqEx4BvynCKArCm/y5 AgSK5eIBQ5yEg2KNZEzBPQmq7hN7OcU/6aTHFxuCUn6/uY6bne2/ztgam/V5xzfo/Xn+ USrH79t43llqkEbGEmOAXcMkiVKLgUCS8NxSM= Message-ID: <4759e5740808260805o37047c61j70809246ad111d26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:05:25 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Smooth Groovers plays Per Boysen & Costas Andreou In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_95379_13170953.1219763125829" References: <66f9cc1e0808260600p7ea1f01as5051c55f08acf87f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:05:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_95379_13170953.1219763125829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Your track sounded really wonderful, Per. still listening to the podcast which I'm enjoying as well! But especially lovely to hear your music in this context. Bests, Todd On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > next time you'll beat Brittney for sure! ;-) > > > 2008/8/26 Per Boysen > > Hi friends, >> >> We are so happy that they play our album at this groovy podcast >> station! We're making weird instrumental music and these guys put us >> on the play list with Isaac Hayes and Alicia Keys... >> >> http://www.smoothgroovers.com/ >> >> Quoting their Friends Section: >> "Per Boysen and Costas Androu with 'Fish Of Fortune' - From their new >> album >> This is an interesting track from an excellent album called Nanetora. >> Nanetora is the first-fruit of a long distance collaboration between >> Per Boysen (Sweden) and Costas Andreou (Greece)." >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> www.stockholm-athens.com >> >> > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_95379_13170953.1219763125829 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Your track sounded really wonderful, Per.  still listening to the podcast which I'm enjoying as well! But especially lovely to hear your music in this context. 

    Bests, 

    Todd



    On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
    next time you'll beat Brittney for sure! ;-)


    2008/8/26 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

    Hi friends,

    We are so happy that they play our album at this groovy podcast
    station! We're making weird instrumental music and these guys put us
    on the play list with Isaac Hayes and Alicia Keys...

    http://www.smoothgroovers.com/

    Quoting their Friends Section:
    "Per Boysen and Costas Androu with 'Fish Of Fortune' - From their new album
    This is an interesting track from an excellent album called Nanetora.
    Nanetora is the first-fruit of a long distance collaboration between
    Per Boysen (Sweden) and Costas Andreou (Greece)."

    --
    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)
    www.myspace.com/perboysen
    www.stockholm-athens.com




    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
    TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



    --
    September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th.

    http://blog.toddreynolds.com
    http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic

    ------=_Part_95379_13170953.1219763125829-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 16:05:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 519B83BF00; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: To: References: <995654.57654.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1ED2B59F-8468-46B1-B215-EA60A8F96218@atarde.com.br> In-Reply-To: <1ED2B59F-8468-46B1-B215-EA60A8F96218@atarde.com.br> Subject: Re: Maybe OT--editing of film Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:05:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Cool thought about feeedback controlling the listener's movement. Thanks for the insight!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Grob" To: "Loop List" Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:37 AM Subject: Re: Maybe OT--editing of film >>> My question >>> to this esteemed group is: >>> Is there a parallel to this in music? can we experience >>> different >>> "locations" in music in the same piece? >>> > > sure! > to control reverb time with a pedal is half the way > the other half is to imagine such music for some reason > people always found that my music was like soundtracks > I dont watch horror films and don't like shocks and always found the flow > through the scenes fundamental > thats why I hardly use presets, only sliders on the ground... > > I also keep claiming that we keep in the same spot as long as FeedBack is > full and start traveling when we reduce it! > > Pink Floyd and Richard Wagner tought me a lot ;-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 18:11:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87E3F3BEE0; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60768.72.51.1219774309.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808260045x27df6effmce705e7e23211c01@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0808260045x27df6effmce705e7e23211c01@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:11:49 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: audio to midi vst plugins From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, Thanks for the Melodyne update. Hmmm... maybe on the next version. Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Tue, August 26, 2008 3:45 am, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:31 AM, André Donawa > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm seriously thinking of going the software route as much as possible >> and >> was wondering ifanyone using these in their setup? >> Is the tracking any good? >> What about melodyne? >> >> Andre > > > I too was hoping Melodyne could do audo to midi conversion in > real-time, but as Chris I found that it is not working. However, for > desktop music production Melodyne produces very useful midi sequences > out of any (already) recorded piece of audio. > > I performed for a while with a guitar equipped with MIDI pickups but > today I have taken a different direction by also playing a MIDI only > instrument (EWI) in parallel with the guitar or whatever acoustic > instrument I might be using. I found that it is possible to play > musically better MIDI if using a MIDI instrument than if using an > acoustic/electric instrument and convert the audio to MIDI. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 18:49:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7567B3BEDC; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SlE-HIDnAAAA:8 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=deKM-WJZAAAA:8 a=-1yuOf5F21_M9i3TmRYA:9 a=GPW0UwPTYLtfdvjCks1XcB3XoloA:4 a=BFDKbZatV3MA:10 a=hpF-ijbX5cwA:10 Message-Id: From: Chris Sewell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808260532u62b231a5oac49c159159396b0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: Re: audio to midi vst plugins Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:49:03 -0400 References: <60511.69.73.1219707085.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <66f9cc1e0808260045x27df6effmce705e7e23211c01@mail.gmail.com> <20080826115359.19930@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0808260532u62b231a5oac49c159159396b0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Why not play the same thing with a midi device? Seems like you're complicating the issue. On Aug 26, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> I too was hoping Melodyne could do audo to midi conversion in >>> real-time, but as Chris I found that it is not working. > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> I used Melodyne a little bit and found it quite thrilling. >> I've been thinking a bit in this diretion - would this kind of work? >> >> 1. Record a live loop in real-time (audio) and keep it running >> 2. Press a pedal that triggers a script: >> "Pick up the audio file of the loop, send it to Melodyne. Return a >> MIDI file. Play the MIDI file as a loop." >> >> Since the loop is already running in real-time, the midi conversion >> by Melodyne wouldn't have to be in real-time. >> >> Do you think this would work? > > > It will definitely work in a technical sense. But since you're asking > me I must say that I don't think it would work (for me, that is) in a > musical sense. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 18:50:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FBEF3BEE0; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48B4507B.4000105@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:50:35 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 References: <665374.12136.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3D7445D1-39FA-4E7C-AECA-FC3B14E9864E@zoekeating.com> <177CE37D-ECAD-41BB-B63A-B15B1522EC30@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <177CE37D-ECAD-41BB-B63A-B15B1522EC30@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Speaking to the unexpected connections as well as visual component to performance, I've been enjoying these two videos of Zoe Keating playing at the San Francisco airport. The passersby add a whole dimension - sometimes sonically, with their carts and footsteps - and they're completely unwitting as to their often poetic contribution. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzUZM_qWhUk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jiWF91DssM Personally, I love the music too. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 19:00:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAE9C3BEEC; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=gTDoPbn2ZHvf5qjsemUA:9 a=hCd26ruurym5r8YC1qDOVy6OYIoA:4 a=7mayv77iRtYA:10 Message-Id: <4D94CB91-B134-42E3-A465-BF4A4A70D921@comcast.net> From: Chris Sewell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48B4507B.4000105@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:00:19 -0400 References: <665374.12136.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3D7445D1-39FA-4E7C-AECA-FC3B14E9864E@zoekeating.com> <177CE37D-ECAD-41BB-B63A-B15B1522EC30@gmail.com> <48B4507B.4000105@mhorse.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:00:23 +0000 (UTC) You just think they are unwitting. That baby crying (which by the way is the same one that sits next to me on every flight) cried a perfect b13 at just the right time. Anyone else notice George Takai walk by? On Aug 26, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Speaking to the unexpected connections as well as visual component > to performance, I've been enjoying these two videos of Zoe Keating > playing at the San Francisco airport. The passersby add a whole > dimension - sometimes sonically, with their carts and footsteps - > and they're completely unwitting as to their often poetic > contribution. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzUZM_qWhUk > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jiWF91DssM > > Personally, I love the music too. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 19:49:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 432683BEDD; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:49:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C9078A.FFE7C370" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: AckHjG4OV4H1fye4SIeZcGkH5Y+t3gAKBsQQ Message-Id: <20080826194957.DBCD03BED3@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:49:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C9078A.FFE7C370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Putting the looper into the effects loop of a guitar amp is SO much better than up front. It will be worth finding a small tube amp with an effects loop. dave I don't even like having the EDP in front of the amp because I can hear & feel its effect on the signal, and I don't much care for it. Thus, I can't & won't comment on your (to my eyes) gigantic effects toolbox, except to say that it seems to be much easier to model effects & combine them with a purely digital signal flow than it is to replace a tube amp that sounds, feels, and responds like a tube amp. -- Zak Kramer Crazyquilt Arts & Music http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C9078A.FFE7C370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Putting the looper into the = effects loop of a guitar amp is SO much better than up front.  It will be worth = finding a small tube amp with an effects loop. 

     

    dave

     

    I don't even like having the EDP in front of the amp because I = can hear & feel its effect on the signal, and I don't much care for it. Thus, = I can't & won't comment on your (to my eyes) gigantic effects toolbox, = except to say that it seems to be much easier to model effects & combine = them with a purely digital signal flow than it is to replace a tube amp that = sounds, feels, and responds like a tube amp.


    --
    Zak Kramer
    Crazyquilt Arts & Music
     http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/

    ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C9078A.FFE7C370-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 20:10:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A7553BEDA; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=f5c3cuiNm56K+qrg2icqlDSJcse0A4AU+kkE5KK70WZpCByserRdMc++fsZU4frZRfESI6xvyr5nu5KVlK+ajrhPbMB5mej4XwJq8Zw/I78hWCosuBGXbMHtXDYdVXOf0K2wol77LtY5sUUvAKFcKhH5mSUua1phPFJeZIJbfI0=; X-YMail-OSG: 6Ez4qa4VM1kPO6tBTOiv75Th8R0xCfeUf0YFOpwnGeFjH9qsOOL6qHtwQWHjOD8KMsmtP.fE7HgEMYY0ryUDUpkA.q1s2V0skWKdE_x3WDLpI5UlWqdXFgbHZGzfj2U- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:10:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2E052E3A-52E6-4BEE-8319-B56D02D65831@atarde.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <679404.49439.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:10:43 +0000 (UTC) i agree amigo "when you close your eyes thats when you start to see" Luis > I stopped doing it because I realized that most people > prefered to > close their eyes and do their own trip along with the > music, which I > believe brings more evolution... > > hug > Matthias > > On 25 Aug 2008, at 23:49, L.A. Angulo wrote: > > > can you imagine improvising to an simple image that > starts to change > > in colors beautifully and then turns into an eternal > tunnel and you > > get all into it and the music becomes almost the image > and you > > start grooving with each other and just as people > start to dream and > > sync to it,there is an abrupt picture change of a goat > in a snowy > > field starting at you? > > i mean what do you play? people just burst into > fucking laughter and > > at the end the guy doing the images on his laptop had > to pay for all > > our drinks! > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, RP Collier > wrote: > > > >> From: RP Collier > >> Subject: Re: Musica Optica 2007 > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 5:05 PM > >> On Aug 25, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Travis Hartnett > wrote: > >> > >>> There's a term for the mind's tendency > to find > >> these sort of > >>> connections where there aren't any, but I > >> can't recall it right now. > >> > >> Perhaps apophenia: > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia > >> > >> > >> regards > >> > >> > >> BobC > >> > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/tynego > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 20:36:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A77713BED6; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=z+14eVwyxbc+ai2BHsLp6YiL/u9ztMoABtRhMlh386dAwh8G1n1DdsZlECmDURs20+LT/Ps2rXYW56TJ47S0GN+DQssZhJLOBIGTQcuvRq4wzLF2EChl7d8sJCUud3j+UYsjadIo6ATYPbcaEjbJMoxkrpGnKQE051KU9U8bLTs=; X-YMail-OSG: 4YwIKPkVM1lE6Z8TyyH8fnew_GeJ3V_Mq_CGHLZVMrB9OTKMtZ7z8bu9ev8eOCIyKIP9QWaMzWOfwPyw5HjjXXmlI3YBWUtRnXMXPV23Xw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:36:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2CC45C3163124A03B97EF60D8A999F80@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <324249.90962.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Hi Krispen, I am often in the same rut with this dilema,ive tried so many modelers and none give me the sound of my Koch twintone and pedals,i am trying out the M13 which aint bad i guess because they ditched all the amp modeling, fx to tube amp only. So always when i read about carry a lappy and instrument only i start salivating! So would you consider one of this days making a little video for us of how u use this setup so we can see how it works and sounds?or can you direct us to any pros using such setup?that would be killer man because it just sounds too good to be true! cheers Luis > Move toward the approach I have now. You walk into a gig > with only your > guitar and laptop. It is quite liberating, and will allow > you to focus your > setup/hardware hassle energy on the music. > > Kris > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 20:40:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 955DC3BEE8; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=blxs+sQANkiXVXa7R9CGlnQbGFCzvHG9um/E5fhWDMbhF8btibqlnoW3O/7AE/WCJfgE2JUGCvIHQ5wKkD9oaROCZ4UMn9/DOcgNguFyh5VbWB7T25eprolAn18uLV6Vd2tD/CcmNhz2aGeHogXdjyXTtL17Al3XkHBDUh6vsc0=; X-YMail-OSG: 1cASP3UVM1mzTqdi6918c4f6NoMefXbHNdRI24fhp2OaKDK3087bZN7hK3l_LDtrEw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:39:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: RE: bespeco expression pedals for loopers efx proccesors etc. To: billwalker@baymoon.com Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <011601c90709$f6a37f60$6401a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <542529.1475.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4HFHj.A.noD.goGtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:40:00 +0000 (UTC) thanx Bill! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 8/25/08, William Walker wrote: > From: William Walker > Subject: RE: bespeco expression pedals for loopers efx proccesors etc. > To: "'L.A. Angulo'" > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 4:26 PM > Get the VM19L for use with the LP-1, the VM16L will work but > having an > extra potentiometer like the VM19L has, you can fine tune > your EX pedal > without having to futz with your midi controlled is cool, > also has a > polarity switch which can be handy. > bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: L.A. Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:47 AM > To: Loopers Delight > Subject: bespeco expression pedals for loopers efx > proccesors etc. > > Hi gang, > I am hunting for a second cheaper exp pedal, the bespecos > are cheaper > compared to the boss,Ernie ball and line 6 ones,i also like > the fact that > they are light to carry, but i am not sure which ones would > work just like > the ones i mentioned > there are different ones here: > > http://www.bespeco.it/product.php?lingua=en&mac=6&cat=116 > > will the ones for keyboards work just as well like this > one? > > http://www.musikland-online.de/onlineshop_bevmv966656_Bespeco-VM-18L-Volumen > pedal.html > > thanx > Luis > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 22:00:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4A1C3BEDC; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <324249.90962.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:00:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:00:59 +0000 (UTC) That video is on my "to do" list! :) One thing that I realized when went all laptop is that I was never going to get the exact tone and feel of a tube amp. I had to embrace the principle that I was fundamentally transforming my guitar tone, my personal philosophy on gear, and my performance rig to system to something that was not better or worse, but something very different. I realized that if got too hung up and obsessed on trying to emulate old gear and ways of thinking that I would never be satisfied and not truly transforming, but clinging to my old habits. Moving to the laptop requires embracing change, for better or worse. Doing this allowed me to dispense with a lot of arbitrary preconceptions that I had beforehand, such as the view that tube guitar amps create better tone, or that analog or rackmount effects sound better than VST (which are clearly a subjective and non-factual statements). I eventually realized that my preferences were not nearly as fine tuned and rigid as I had thought, and that over time I can get used to something different and eventually like it more. Consequently, I can't guarantee that moving to the laptop will produce a tube amp sound - it likely will NOT - but it is a fundamental transformation to something different, and now I have grown so accustomed to my new sound, that I find the sound of a tube amp un-appealing and "weird" sounding. We are creatures of habit. If we can break out of this paradigm and evolve to something different, we may find ourselves just as gratified over time. So, these days, I like to change the conditions under which we compare rackmount/pedal/amp systems with laptop systems, and not try to compare apples with apples, but view it as a transformation to something different. Because when I see the countless post from people asking about VSTs or software that will do what their hardware does, I can almost sense the personal urgency, fear, and "clinginess" to the notion of emulating old ways with new technologies. The very idea of moving from hardware to software, and expecting simulation of old habitual tones, is now staring to feel fundamentally contradictory and counter-productive to me. So, all I can say, practically speaking, is try taking the loop to all laptop and give it some time. Don't feel discouraged if you can't get your exact hardware tones or configurations at the outset - this will be a natural human response to trying something. Experiment and eventually you may discover something new and different that will grown on you and become part of your new musical personality. It's all about personal evolution, I think, not serial phases of "revolution" around the same preconceptions. Okay, I guess this is what a long walk to the pub and a few ales will do to me. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Krispen, > I am often in the same rut with this dilema,ive tried so many modelers and > none give me the sound of my Koch twintone and pedals,i am trying out the > M13 which aint bad i guess because they ditched all the amp modeling, fx > to tube amp only. > So always when i read about carry a lappy and instrument only i start > salivating! > So would you consider one of this days making a little video for us of how > u use this setup so we can see how it works and sounds?or can you direct > us to any pros using such setup?that would be killer man because it just > sounds too good to be true! > cheers > Luis > > > >> Move toward the approach I have now. You walk into a gig >> with only your >> guitar and laptop. It is quite liberating, and will allow >> you to focus your >> setup/hardware hassle energy on the music. >> >> Kris >> >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 22:06:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 835203BEE8; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006301c907c7$f722f740$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: GLITCH VSTs for LOOPERS Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:06:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <5DpZEC.A.96G.b5HtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:06:19 +0000 (UTC) There's a great thread on Glitch techniques and VST instruments that accomplish it at the Electronic Music Production tribe including some intriguing posts on non-plugin glitching techniques. http://studioanoraks.tribe.net/thread/55cbf935-aa11-42e1-b50d-692d07bd9ad3 I have learned a ton from my fellow computer music producers through this thread. It's worth a read, but I've distilled the recommendations below as a reference for us here. Also, I can put in another plug for you folks to come join the Audio Plugin Junkies Annonymous Tribe at tribe that I moderate. You can ask questions about plugins in any format; for any OS and get a really intelligent and informed reply back in 24-48 hours. It's a great resource. Come use it for free! http://PLUGINS.tribe.net Rick Walker Here is the collation of all the VST instruments that they recommend, most of which are free: GLITCH VST effects for the PC side: mGtriggerGATE (www.mgaudio.de/modules/main.php) dBGlitch illformed.org/glitch/ Smart Electronix' LIVE CUT VST mdsp.smartelectronix.com/2005/...ut.php A whole sweet of manglers called DARKWAVE (beware the sexist graphics!!!!!) www.jackdark.net/darkwarefree.html and for the MAC side: www.macmusic.org/softs/vie...N/id/2537/ Twerk's DRool String Ukelele (which has nothing to do with it's name) It looks cool but I haven't tried it out yet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 22:19:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D18323BEEA; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMeiRzcEV8w== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:19:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: AckHxzoE7zcD6OeFRtymhRy/jg+E9AAAiqVQ In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Krispen said (and I'm taking that one sentence which for me said it all): > a subjective and non-factual statements). I eventually > realized that my preferences were not nearly as fine tuned > and rigid as I had thought, and that over time I can get used > to something different and eventually like it more. And, really, there's nothing more to say. Frankly, I'm getting tired of all that "I can feel the difference" talk. Either you're able to do it with a more compact setup, or you should embrace the thought that you better take yourself and your tube amp and stompbox setup to the retirement home. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 22:40:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 685113BEE6; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:40:13 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Did you mean...take it to the retirement home...NOW? Cuz that's kinda, like, ouch. Or did you mean that, at the point when we're ready for the retirement home, the non-laptoppers will still be dragging the amps and stompboxes around? Cuz that's like, no big deal. Great inheritance for the kiddies. Not that compact isn't desirable and necessary, but I can tell you that in 20 years, none of the computer hardware or software you're using now will be supported and you'll have spent thousands upgrading every five years, whilst a 2008 Matchless amp will still be going strong and worth five times what it sold for originally... :-D ... not even remotely involved, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > And, really, there's nothing more to say. Frankly, I'm getting tired of all > that "I can feel the difference" talk. Either you're able to do it with a > more compact setup, or you should embrace the thought that you better take > yourself and your tube amp and stompbox setup to the retirement home. From ahmed_cosi9@mrahmedco.info Tue Aug 26 22:49:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1024 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:49:16 UTC Received: from mail-gx0-f32.google.com (mail-gx0-f32.google.com [209.85.217.32]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63643BEDD for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk13 with SMTP id 13so3088949gxk.6 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.142.16 with SMTP id u16mr10053204ybn.58.1219789913125; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.12.15 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1a99ed930808261531o1625691bsa494497bf83ade5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:31:53 +0000 From: "ahmed cosi" Reply-To: ahmed_cosi@hotmail.fr Subject: =?WINDOWS-1256?Q?URGENT_call_me.=FE?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14884_29182626.1219789913129" To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=_Part_14884_29182626.1219789913129 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline FROM THE DESK OF AHMED COSI BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPT. BANK OF AFRICA (BOA) OF BURKINA OUAGADOUGOU, BURKINA FASO TEL:00226 70 99 00 60 Dear Friend, ASSALAM-U-ALAIKUM. I am the manager of bill and exchange at the foreign remittance department in the BANK OF AFRICA (BOA) OF BURKINA FASO OUAGADOUGOU, BURKINA FASO. I am writing,following the impressive information about you through one of my friend. He assured me of your capability and releability to champion this business opportunity. In my department we discovered an abandoned sum of U.S$10.5M US dollars (TEN Million five hundred US dollars) in an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer who died along with his entire family in DECEMBER 2003 in a plane crash.Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we can not release it unless somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidlines and laws but unfortunately we learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discovery that I in my department now decided to make this business proposal to you and release the money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and i don't want this money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed bill. 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    FROM THE DESK OF AHMED COSI 
    BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER
    FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPT.
    BANK OF AFRICA (BOA) OF BURKINA
    OUAGADOUGOU, BURKINA FASO 
    TEL:00226 70 99 00 60

     
    Dear Friend,
     
    ASSALAM-U-ALAIKUM.
     
    I am the manager of bill and exchange at the foreign remittance department in the BANK OF AFRICA (BOA) OF BURKINA FASO OUAGADOUGOU, BURKINA FASO.
     
    I am writing,following the impressive information about you through one of my friend. He assured me of your capability and releability to champion this business opportunity.
     
    In my department we discovered an abandoned sum of U.S$10.5M US dollars (TEN Million five hundred US dollars) in an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer who died along with his entire family in DECEMBER 2003 in a plane crash.Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we can not release it unless somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidlines and laws but unfortunately we learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim.
     
    It is therefore upon this discovery that I  in my department now decided to make this business proposal to you and release the money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and i don't want this money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed bill.
     
    The banking law and guidline here stipulates that if such money remained unclaimed after six  years, the money will be transfered into the bank treasury as unclaimed fund.
     
    The request of foreign as next of kin in this business is occassioned by the fact that the customer was a foreigner and a Burkinabe can not stand as next of kin to a foreigner.
     
    We agree that 30% of this money will be for you as a foreign partner, in respect to the provision of a foreign account, 5%will be set aside for expenses incured during the business and 65% would befor me and my colleagues.
     
    There after I and my family will visit your country for disbursement according to the percentages indicated.Therefore,to enable the immediate transfer of this fund to you as arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relation or next of kin to the deceased indicating your bank name, your bank account number,your private telephone and fax number for easy and effective communication and location where in the money will be remitted.
     
    Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or e-mail the text of the application.
    I will not fail to bring to your notice that this transaction is hitch-free and that you should not entertain any atom of fear as all required arrangements have been made for the transfer.
     
    You should contact me immediately as soon as you receive this letter for more explanations.
     
    Thanks
    Yours faithfully,
    AHMED COSI 
    Bill & Exchange Manager
    TEL:00226 70 99 00 60
     
    ------=_Part_14884_29182626.1219789913129-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Aug 26 22:53:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9ED53BEE6; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=4DduC9kDPBBevB9wsp2653hkarjbiShNyUjoUlUR2NdkgZ9i9+4Gxhq8oY4gRyAYlvrD3vDWdQ4B+gMR5nHfRrTjL9y8gFgkEOIvQb10YJe1zBHBUleBcLV7gy9ZB5J61DqcxNLieSn0S7Y8ORFwN9P8/1PFyxhTdiKggxlgmdo=; X-YMail-OSG: fO5fU50VM1kYDh1of0QkSgTsHOGuZFhVDoCJQ7HnEHlRXLGYU6kDSwhCwQ7PKiQV3oRxgScsbM_H51T7U1YzCC9MRMuyDvN4aH0E6IVEaT.XHA2gSBhBUPaz8tiIipOexl6inv6OIaMT0qQf944SfJA- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <178866.68227.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:53:29 +0000 (UTC) I like Krispin's take on the situation. Myself, I took yet another option: stop using effects, especially distortion. As a looper, I have been very inspired by what Zoe is doing on the cello, and it's made me look long and hard at what I've been doing/trying to do on the guitar. And there are others playing electric guitar and just going direct; Metheny and McLaughlin come immediately to mind. Plus, the older I get the less interested I am in distorion in any event. The end result is that I'm no longer using effects at all (except for reverb on the mains), and I'm also considering dropping the whole MIDI guitar synth thing (although still considering the pros and cons of using the GR-300...while I think it's artistically valid, it's just more gear to hump). And I've been playing my acoustic more than I have in years, and discovering all it's secret noises for loop fodder. Of course I'm not about to sell my hand-wired tube amps or the GR-300/G-505 or even the GK-20. For studio stuff I'll use anything in my bag. But I've got a bunch of other gadgetry that is due to go on eBay as soon as I get motivated. -George --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill > Subject: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:19 PM > Krispen said (and I'm taking that one sentence which for > me said it all): > > > a subjective and non-factual statements). I > eventually > > realized that my preferences were not nearly as fine > tuned > > and rigid as I had thought, and that over time I can > get used > > to something different and eventually like it more. > > And, really, there's nothing more to say. Frankly, > I'm getting tired of all > that "I can feel the difference" talk. Either > you're able to do it with a > more compact setup, or you should embrace the thought that > you better take > yourself and your tube amp and stompbox setup to the > retirement home. From poscard@postcard.org Tue Aug 26 23:41:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from zg.swisshotel-zug.ch (gw.swisshotel-zug.ch [217.11.44.210]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E1D913BECF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24024 invoked by uid 453); 26 Aug 2008 19:07:05 -0000 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on zg.swisshotel-zug.ch Received: from Unknown (HELO User) (89.129.253.245) (smtp-auth username reception, mechanism login) by zg.swisshotel-zug.ch (qpsmtpd/0.40) with ESMTPA; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:07:05 +0200 From: "postcard" Subject: HELLO my friend, Only for you, Check it now. !!! Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:07:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01C2A9A6.45F9A630" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20080826234155.E1D913BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C2A9A6.45F9A630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Seems like you're > complicating the issue. Ok, fair enough question ;-) Let me explain: My crazy vision was to think through if it would be technically possible to a) play a live audio loop b) let melodyne etc. create a midi file out of it c) have some tool harmonically / rhythmically analyze the midi file d) let the computer play some generative music (i.e. with Noatkl) accompanying your live loop... It is a very far-fetched idea and I'm not even sure if I'd like the results in musical terms. Anyway, since you've asked... ;-) Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 00:49:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 338ED3BEF1; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ATA4xVCQuZ7fhDT78vd+EbdFbNOwOeaPJO8ZVnzCeG6djuSdJjVhPQkE4uFr8aNjUW8+QgvniQfwNswyxS42KExbMvTQIdEoK9EacQbhHyANDk+7HHZ2LKUCDfiWfhzin1+fsk262I0jTNsr6sx9CS1jxreeXurYzg5c4Afuwlc=; X-YMail-OSG: spvN9l0VM1kwSI2HSRs15j8bpW17ueb.tESCKGrYYvdl3vRJstC8FYuNl3M36GiqRw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:49:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <632579.71775.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:49:56 +0000 (UTC) and this guitar fx will always survive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq6r23-le5o i love how gently he stumps on his pedal:-D Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:40 PM > Did you mean...take it to the retirement home...NOW? Cuz > that's kinda, > like, ouch. > > Or did you mean that, at the point when we're ready for > the retirement > home, the non-laptoppers will still be dragging the amps > and stompboxes > around? Cuz that's like, no big deal. Great inheritance > for the kiddies. > > Not that compact isn't desirable and necessary, but I > can tell you that > in 20 years, none of the computer hardware or software > you're using now > will be supported and you'll have spent thousands > upgrading every five > years, whilst a 2008 Matchless amp will still be going > strong and worth > five times what it sold for originally... :-D ... > > not even remotely involved, > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > And, really, there's nothing more to say. Frankly, > I'm getting tired of all > > that "I can feel the difference" talk. > Either you're able to do it with a > > more compact setup, or you should embrace the thought > that you better take > > yourself and your tube amp and stompbox setup to the > retirement home. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 01:14:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 631233BEF3; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CrHEiNneAAAA:8 a=6jrfzZGFqDQqaqfhK04A:9 a=usugC6HcXA9ch0G-f9VXtdE5drMA:4 a=e7p7efdnBP4A:10 a=oqs56FR1YJwA:10 Message-Id: <22C04B1F-24F4-46D4-B991-B606C3FD3AB0@comcast.net> From: Chris Sewell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080827002938.90040@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: Re: audio to midi vst plugins X-Priority: 3 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:14:31 -0400 References: <60511.69.73.1219707085.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <66f9cc1e0808260045x27df6effmce705e7e23211c01@mail.gmail.com> <20080826115359.19930@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0808260532u62b231a5oac49c159159396b0@mail.gmail.com> <20080827002938.90040@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Sounds really cool. I think your about 3 to 4 years and 4 Ghz away from fruition. On Aug 26, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> Why not play the same thing with a midi device? Seems like you're >> complicating the issue. > > Ok, fair enough question ;-) > Let me explain: > My crazy vision was to think through if it would be technically > possible to > a) play a live audio loop > b) let melodyne etc. create a midi file out of it > c) have some tool harmonically / rhythmically analyze the midi file > d) let the computer play some generative music (i.e. with Noatkl) > accompanying your live loop... > > It is a very far-fetched idea and I'm not even sure if I'd like the > results in musical terms. > Anyway, since you've asked... ;-) > > Buzap > -- > GMX startet ShortView.de. 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 01:23:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A50623BEF5; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <014601c907e3$83856d60$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:23:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Rainer wrote: "Frankly, I'm getting tired of all that "I can feel the difference" talk. Either you're able to do it with a more compact setup, or you should embrace the thought that you better take yourself and your tube amp and stompbox setup to the retirement home." Dear Rainer, I can fully understand the emotion behind this statement and don't fault you for having that emotion, but by actually posting such a thought to greater community seems like you are being disrespectful to a large number of really phenomenal world class musicians by actually posting such a blanket statement to this community. To me, as incredibly bright and knowledgeable as you are, making such a statement makes you seem insular,close minded and arrogant. There are some people who believe that the diffence in the actual final timbre of their performances makes it worthwhile to carry heavier analogue equipment with them on tour. This is a valid musical stance and though you may not agree with it, having such a stance does not equate to being a dinosaur ready for a retirement home. I've had this argument (lightweight all laptop vs. hardware or hardware/laptop hybrids) with my brother over and over, but the fact of the matter is that he has refined his guitar tones over 30 years; trying every conceivable configuration and he feels, with some justification, that he can't get the tone he wants from an amp simulation or tube simulation sofwtare. For someone like Krispen Hartung, who really likes a fairly clean, jazzy guitar tone to begin with, an all laptop, Max/MSP or multiple VST through a host approach really works spectacularly. Bill is a completely different musician, however, and I can tell you that I've been with him in his garage trying out amp/tube modeller after amp/tube modeller with cabinet simulators on the backside and then listened to him play the identical thing through small Fender and Vox vintage tube amps and the difference is STUNNING! I don't need this in my music. You, apparently don't either, but it's just being too black and white to put down anyone else who disagrees with you and your original statement was a definite 'put down'. I object strenuously to it. That said and done, you know I like you a lot and this is an impassioned response to your words and not a personal attack. with respect, Rick Walker From poscard@postcard.org Wed Aug 27 01:54:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from hfcspa.com (89-96-100-122.ip11.fastwebnet.it [89.96.100.122]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FCA3BEF1 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27325 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2008 15:13:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO User) (info@[89.129.253.245]) (envelope-sender ) by hfcspa.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Aug 2008 15:13:21 -0000 From: "postcard" Subject: HELLO my friend, Only for you, Check it now. !!! Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:13:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006B_01C2A9A6.43EAB668" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20080827015425.67FCA3BEF1@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C2A9A6.43EAB668 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <014601c907e3$83856d60$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <876934.80904.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8pDLI.A.C7F.i1LtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:35:15 +0000 (UTC) if that was true all the pros would be playing live with a crappy sounding mass produced digital pocket size tube amp emulator and retiring their analog bulky stuff at home we want all those great sounds packed in an ipod but lets face it is never gonna happen. Luis > Rainer wrote: > "Frankly, I'm getting tired of all that "I > can feel the difference" talk. > Either you're able to do it with a more compact setup, > or you should embrace > the thought that you better take yourself and your tube amp > and stompbox > setup > to the retirement home." > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 02:46:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C85A3BEFA; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:46:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <4fsLND.A.nLG.TAMtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:46:44 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- > Not that compact isn't desirable and necessary, but I can tell you that in > 20 years, none of the computer hardware or software you're using now will > be supported and you'll have spent thousands upgrading every five years, > whilst a 2008 Matchless amp will still be going strong and worth five > times what it sold for originally... :-D ... Probably true, but of these two options, and a 8 year span: a) I spend, let's say $3000 on a new computer every 4 years (my running rate) and then upgrade my music software every 8 years for another $1500 (max/msp or something like it, Reaktor or something like it, and a bunch of free future VSTs or something like them), totallying $7500 in 8 years. b) Buy a Matchless DC30 for $3500, but be totally bored out of my mind with this 1-2-trick pony in year, and end up buying 3 different other botique tube amps in the next 7 years, probably easily spending $7500....been there, done that! I've spend more on amps than I have computers and software, so what does that tell me? Move away from hardware. Adapt. Evolve. Change. Lighten up (literally) and play the music. :) Of a) and b), it would be a wash for me. The computer is a logical choice in my case and will save me money over time, plus keep my evolving. I've never used an a single type of amp for 20 years, BTW. I've never used the same amp for more than a year without getting board with the limitation of tones. I think the writing is on the wall. It's just my prediction, but I think harware will be in museums in 30 years, and no one will be able to support it; nor will any music manufacturer be able to afford to compete in the marketplace selling hardware that goes out of style in 6 months. It's like what is happeing with servers. More business are ditching their ridicuously expensive monsgter servers and storage devices that only have 45% utilization, and moving to either modular blades or outsourcing/virtualization, where they don't even own their servers. We're heading to the Matrix, man...take the laptop pill. :) Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 02:52:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF69B3BF0A; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6E54DB34F9B6461B9AEE3215ED157031@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <178866.68227.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:52:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:52:32 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- >I like Krispin's take on the situation. Myself, I took yet another option: >stop using effects, especially distortion. [snip] Yup. This has crossed my mind before. In 20 years, I'll probably be such an impatient, curmudgeonly, and irritable old bastard, that I'll be able to tolerate only an acoustic guitar. Stick me on the street corner with a stool and I'll do the Derek Bailey thing. Damn computers anyway. I love em' and hate em' at the same time. And amps, rack effects, pedals, etc...I hate em' too. Even the guitar is starting to wear on my nerves. Maybe I should just move the the hills, drink my home brewed Belgian ales, and play avant-garde bluegrass for the rest of my life :) Hah hah. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 02:58:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05B573BF02; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <30DD1FD46F3540B7B3755B1A0B3B218E@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <876934.80904.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:58:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <3NutoC.A.3eG.mLMtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Although, in partial support of Rainer's comments, albeit controversial, I have met and heard many pro players who aren't picky gear heads, and will play through anything you give them and sound freakin' great. Their style and caliber of playing transcends the gear. I'm quite certain that if you gave John McLaughin a cheap $100 Crate guitar amp, he would still sound like John McLaughlin. The tone won't be the same, but he playing and style will be. John has played through Marshall stacks in the Mahavishnu days, Roland JC amps, and even direct in the board via a processor...it's always sounds like John, man (the scalloped frets don't hurt!). :) The pros don't play through the crappy gear becaus they don't have to. But if they did, they would still shine. Kris > if that was true all the pros would be playing live with a crappy sounding > mass produced digital pocket size tube amp emulator and retiring their > analog bulky stuff at home > we want all those great sounds packed in an ipod but lets face it is never > gonna happen. > Luis > > >> Rainer wrote: >> "Frankly, I'm getting tired of all that "I >> can feel the difference" talk. >> Either you're able to do it with a more compact setup, >> or you should embrace >> the thought that you better take yourself and your tube amp >> and stompbox >> setup >> to the retirement home." >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 03:08:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 193613BF01; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=N+nJQX7bn/1wMBY1N57Fl8N3rrAakuk3ZUGYS19t1xE=; b=X7BOph8Ok7J1fMdmv3nSWB4LR9wfs8F17xQmoHzokUU6q+j6rtDO90b1Wrap9MQneW mevjt7J19f9WX472FyFnfxgpXQHUQdSpc4PdJd2TMS3v59ANykmXakRNGpBp8OwOzoDz AYRwq2F7ggeGmqqSvhxL0VC53yfrIJC+DXe00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=LwL6+HvlogqavIKhMrbaStaZGKzCCKd92S1u9039Vkjn6p7mOVmbRvNN6mTp8Tdb3K p/5rvo0Kfh24NhpTELmWjkRKkucFobAQwvA5N9LtNv/WkfMmxYG/IkNQ3dVyxXUFDcLs asbnP7jq9pT/x0HCQkmiVgFLjHhsolbcqcyzk= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:08:16 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify In-Reply-To: <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13196_1403146.1219806496633" References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: <-3qzID.A.dtG.hUMtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:08:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13196_1403146.1219806496633 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The thing about buying hardware, such as boutique amps, is that they have resale value, even appreciation. Computer hardware goes down to where after a few years you can't give it away, and god forbid you ever pay money for audio software... Another great thing about about boutique amps is that there's always a bunch of guys with money who get bored with them and buy a new one every year or so, so you can let them take that first-purchase devaluation hit. Musical hardware (actual amps, guitars and effects) hold their value better than almost anything else in your house. Furniture? Clothing? Appliances? Forget it. TH On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > > b) Buy a Matchless DC30 for $3500, but be totally bored out of my mind with > this 1-2-trick pony in year, and end up buying 3 different other botique > tube amps in the next 7 years, probably easily spending $7500....been there, > done that! I've spend more on amps than I have computers and software, so > what does that tell me? Move away from hardware. Adapt. Evolve. Change. > Lighten up (literally) and play the music. :) > > ------=_Part_13196_1403146.1219806496633 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    The thing about buying hardware, such as boutique amps, is that they have resale value, even appreciation.  Computer hardware goes down to where after a few years you can't give it away, and god forbid you ever pay money for audio software...  Another great thing about about boutique amps is that there's always a bunch of guys with money who get bored with them and buy a new one every year or so, so you can let them take that first-purchase devaluation hit.  Musical hardware (actual amps, guitars and effects) hold their value better than almost anything else in your house.  Furniture?  Clothing?  Appliances?  Forget it. 

    TH

    On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
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    b) Buy a Matchless DC30 for $3500, but be totally bored out of my mind with this 1-2-trick pony in year, and end up buying 3 different other botique tube amps in the next 7 years, probably easily spending $7500....been there, done that! I've spend more on amps than I have computers and software, so what does that tell me? Move away from hardware. Adapt. Evolve. Change. Lighten up (literally) and play the music. :)


    ------=_Part_13196_1403146.1219806496633-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 03:10:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB9FF3BF0B; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=MsFsbHhcVHqt0IxmtChOkBrYq/1B/W6+Ko7jKY/fjNM=; b=Aw0/zq4Xa+C4vkGXYKKELv0Cf0oM/7s5ZKrUnQI4ZKirtF8uxZNOm0o6HyPrTUEVC4 CEhGksLYz1LBH6yiQS/u0P5xsgWfxZYtrm8tycgxDUB68N2MCZsi/25zZR0o5gwQ2jQc EV2+cRxGh/oNT7DmgEgh00ngX2TbIxRCmmmGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=hdtmLIcCl2sNCLHCfGamhkhT/g5lc+52LGHtCq2q8kB0HrGVsuwNChF4bRgUNHdmWB lIehumwAWDoHMpA8J+RbT4IMcGt9aTIKXsZMBkM4rL9wT7rJTwxoTvWc4z7eqwxIRx9H By391wc7p1bZ5U6Sh5YWzcP9g8/b4cEmfk37M= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:09:58 -0400 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: any loopers in Detroit? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7385_7964630.1219806598604" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:09:59 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7385_7964630.1219806598604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just moved here and would love to get together for a session . . . -Eben ------=_Part_7385_7964630.1219806598604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Just moved here and would love to get together for a session . . . 

    -Eben


    ------=_Part_7385_7964630.1219806598604-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 03:26:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 528AC3BF11; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: , Subject: RE: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:25:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <178866.68227.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckHzpHyS8XiD8j1Qm276bxnJTsoZQAJaDWA Message-Id: <20080827032601.E54873BF01@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:26:02 +0000 (UTC) George, you have the old blue box 300, and the Fender copy 505? I do as well, bought them new in 1979 or 1980. I haven't used the 300 recently, but I still play the 505 at my solo gigs. It is a better guitar than my 1956 Fender Strat was. I used to use the synth set an octave down as the bassist in my pre-looper one man band. Having the individual switches to choose which strings went through the synth was great. dave Of course I'm not about to sell my hand-wired tube amps or the GR-300/G-505 or even the GK-20. For studio stuff I'll use anything in my bag. But I've got a bunch of other gadgetry that is due to go on eBay as soon as I get motivated. -George From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 03:38:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C6353BF00; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: M13 has arrived Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:38:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20080827002938.90040@gmx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckH2//xj7qjxFArS0GX81i2dyX6gAAGKWOw Message-Id: <20080827033810.AA23E3BEF8@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:38:10 +0000 (UTC) I just took delivery on the M13. I only had a half-hour to mess with it, but I went to the looper straightaway, and it performs nicely right out of the box. I didn't experience the clicks that Luis indicated, and the half-speed and reverse are instantaneous. I can make a loop, overdub (and undo the last overdub), then click off the loop control--the loop keeps running and I return to the pedal effects to modify the next overdub. I also got a Boss F500H to use as an expression pedal with the unit, so I'll be able to check out the feedback situation--this is something I use all the time on the EDP solo rig. My first trip through some of the effects has been pleasing. I was about to buy an Eventide Time Factor to plug into the effects loop of my Hot Rod Deluxe, but after reading that I could send the delays, verbs and other time-based effects through the loop while sending overdrives, tremolos and compressors through the front of the amp (the 4 cable method), my mind was made up. So far, I'm just running it quietly into the front of a Tech 21 Trademark 60 combo. I'll be reading the manual and experimenting more tonight. Dennis and others, if you have specific questions, send them along. dave From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 04:02:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 979CA3BF0D; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48B4CFE7.5070109@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:54:15 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Interesting...I guess I don't know many guitar players who get tired of their amps frequently. I bought a '66 Princeton thirteen years ago and, even though I'm not playing electric these days, it lasted me through three or four bands and I never felt like I needed anything different in an amp. Though I do agree with Travis that guitar gear keeps its value (and I'm not so convinced that hardware will be in museums in 30 years), if your path leads you to maximum flexibility and frequent change then the software solution sounds custom-made for you..! As for me...hell, I'm still using tape...my electric guitar needs its electric amp! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > a) I spend, let's say $3000 on a new computer every 4 years (my > running rate) and then upgrade my music software every 8 years for > another $1500 (max/msp or something like it, Reaktor or something like > it, and a bunch of free future VSTs or something like them), > totallying $7500 in 8 years. > > b) Buy a Matchless DC30 for $3500, but be totally bored out of my mind > with this 1-2-trick pony in year, and end up buying 3 different other > botique tube amps in the next 7 years, probably easily spending > $7500....been there, done that! I've spend more on amps than I have > computers and software, so what does that tell me? Move away from > hardware. Adapt. Evolve. Change. Lighten up (literally) and play the > music. :) > > Of a) and b), it would be a wash for me. The computer is a logical > choice in my case and will save me money over time, plus keep my > evolving. I've never used an a single type of amp for 20 years, BTW. > I've never used the same amp for more than a year without getting > board with the limitation of tones. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 04:29:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D28833BF13; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=GfIaQJzzxbqIy1aCRR4Rq1bGqXWKk4knobyjJGs60DVAKTlfYZfPxbJPJSDu/XNgzqh8SHjEMfgJWnbp6JuE3cq4ia6iXfT+tqIqZhnBkKT32pci1hODuvwykBKlFgGD9bG3cuPJ4c73Ib4/t8PVRT7HIquc04wiqRu0czingno=; X-YMail-OSG: 0oJQ.AAVM1nepkafkXD82GjWjM1WR293QfSJI_.FpsDLs1YMLt80Uk3WDLTtAWTSjuXDRdvrYAJeItjAYP86gPAYHmI2wkTPDGyHbbQNpSypAt6CmSD0p2goof3gqmu4v1I5FY0jWlY_NMGxva76ZW4- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <20046.19614.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:29:28 +0000 (UTC) > From: Travis Hartnett > The thing about buying hardware, such as boutique amps, is > that they have > resale value, even appreciation. Computer hardware goes > down to where after > a few years you can't give it away, and god forbid you > ever pay money for > audio software... Absolutely! But even an M13 is way better than buying software. I don't want to go in to all the reasons why, but anyone who has owned/maintained a computer system for more than a few years understands this implicitly. For myself, I'd prefer to buy digital hardware than software because the hardware (i.e., an M13) is it's own platform. You don't have to worry about things like: 1. the copy protection scheme becoming unsupported 2. the only supported OS being "end-of-lifed" 3. the computer hardware being "end-of-lifed" On a related note, I will NEVER buy any more 1K Multimedia products due to their tight lock-in with flaky copy protection (don't ask me about my experience with authorization for Amplitube). Steam is pouring out of my ears at the very memory! Small software enterpises come and go all the time. To expect them to stick around is just unrealistic. And even if they are around, to expect them to remain at the status quo is once again lunacy. Case in point, Apple's aquisition of Logic. If you were running Logic on a PC, you were SOL. Not to harsh on any scabs, but does anyone else remember the Gibson takeover of Opcode and the resulting orphanage of OMS? Not to mention StudioVisionPro...I still frickin' seriously weep for the loss off Opcode, not to mention the gigatinc loss of SVP. With a hardware box, you can at least be sure that in 10 years (barring the failure of some irreplacable custome chip) it will still do what it does today. But if you buy software to do that same thing, it's a total longshot that it will be in any way functional in 10 years on ANY platform. So these days I treat purchases of software as expenses, and do my best to choose hardware that turns in to an investment rather than an expense. Years ago I was gigging with a line6 AX212. I was lucky...a buddy at GC got me an awesome deal on it. I gigged with it for two years, then sold it for almost what I paid for it. That was like 8 years ago or so. Since then, I've resolved to spend as little money as possible on digital devices, and put the real money in to analogue gear that will withstand the test of time. So in my current rig, I've been using a Universal Audio Solo 610 as a tube DI. It's my only effect, and it's worth every penny! I am happy to spend beaucoup $$$ on high-end tube gear. It will sound great, and hold its value. Following my own advice, I've been using ProTools the last few years because I'm convinced it's not about to go away. But what a piece of shit it's been! At least I'm not afraid that it's about to disappear at like StudioVision Pro did. -George From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 04:38:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 050CE3BF0F; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=f+tsbYRzLu2KhB1kA+0oGcLyO7w6p7jeNp+rDGZldwvc8mnJrPremRmU5gG0nZv2tDfkWaehKdmEcyU0v34pZySYGOjzmJszy8gSqWmOs/83xDi7Y3ZAcTEHQPN38M7NhjLVnem9NrT1zQeYXJd8zfG3dC7EqihTblSUT1SNzUs=; X-YMail-OSG: 8JxwM_YVM1lh9h90uaZJhC.Fq38LeEbKY2X6mfujaWxYk.G0howp6dLVgWEK9vueBPHBwZwDXwMuM_5jgZznXmCONPvhCVgrUw69uiiJtqdRKg36uXsApJlSPOop6Nz.ng-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:38:44 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: RE: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Dave Gallaher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <386943.98843.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Dave, > George, you have the old blue box 300, and the Fender copy > 505? I do as > well, bought them new in 1979 or 1980. I haven't used > the 300 recently, but > I still play the 505 at my solo gigs. It is a better > guitar than my 1956 > Fender Strat was. I used to use the synth set an octave > down as the bassist > in my pre-looper one man band. Having the individual > switches to choose > which strings went through the synth was great. Yup, it's the old blue box. I've been lucky enough to score two GR-300s (as well as a GR-700), one on european voltage, the other on US. I'm a little surprised you were so happy with the G-505. Myself, I found the neck unplayable due to a number of issues, and eventually had a local luthier (Dan Ransom) carve a custom neck. For a couple of years I was on the hunt for a G-303/G808, but I've since concluded that, at 6'4", my overall size does not jibe well with shorter scale lenths. So I'm sticking with the G-505. -George From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 04:42:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 353493BF1E; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=lncZz1+RaqGPggxHE/YuWggVENh7DkwY/RvxWH3zM0gIQKkPfIDSibNMndIzWRnp6EJfZLvVROX86rvQYnH1wofIquLLsdMkMdmj86hD6rMeIhjnHBm0cmY8Yoc9DTqg7ITz8N2zvgnm048Q/k3jzVq/esu9GS8DmnKFAvueK+k=; X-YMail-OSG: _e_6rDoVM1ns21aCWlZ_p1srDZNuPyFimVp_0h_r.5ICFEGbPEhEgIQPi4fsq2NINxl5zpAXutWbY6t2ffifTCAJDZhMfSc7IKGp_de45emnG3brgqJQo7OEogj._mLrBA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:42:56 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6E54DB34F9B6461B9AEE3215ED157031@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <383087.83756.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:42:57 +0000 (UTC) > In 20 years, I'll > probably be such an > impatient, curmudgeonly, and irritable old bastard, that > I'll be able to > tolerate only an acoustic guitar. Stick me on the street > corner with a > stool and I'll do the Derek Bailey thing. Damn > computers anyway. I love em' > and hate em' at the same time. And amps, rack effects, > pedals, etc...I hate > em' too. Even the guitar is starting to wear on my > nerves. Maybe I should > just move the the hills, drink my home brewed ABSINTHE, > and play > avant-garde bluegrass for the rest of my life :) Hah hah. > > Kris Fixed for immediate, person relevancy, :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 05:24:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A76093BF1C; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ed01c90805$2499fce0$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: GLITCH VSTs for LOOPERS Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:24:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:24:12 +0000 (UTC) And here is the massive KVR forum's thread on Glitch plugins (partially reproduced below) http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1631289 excerpted here: dblue Glitch combines a lot of the known good glitch effects under one roof. http://illformed.org/glitch/ arcDev noise industries http://device.antisound.net/ has Blittr and Hosebeast for buffer-sampling stuttery gl*tch box with a nice x-y pad & useless-but-cool wave and multicrapfx shredder. ndc Plugs http://www.niallmoody.com/ndcplugs/ has several great glitchers like Buffer Synth (several great variations of stuttery and repeaters), Reversinator, Stretch & Squash, The Modulator 2, Tempo Sync Reverser and more. The names somewhat explain themselves. Smartelectronix Koen Tanghe http://www.smartelectronix.com/~koen/ has KTgranulator that pays homage to the granular blocks in audiomulch. Smartelectronix Destroy FX http://destroyfx.smartelectronix.com/ has, for example, the stutter/repeater effect buffer override, zipping and sliding thru time with scrubby and the modulator Skidder Smartelectronix ioplong http://andreas.smartelectronix.com/ has a great collection of glich related paraphenelia, like the StepSequenced VstSampler Slifty, Slicer and Reorderer Splonki, Dynamic buffer freezer flitchSplifter, Stutter-Stretch Delay sloper and BigBuffer Reverse Delay deloiser. and more... Smartelectronix mdsp http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/2005/07/livecut-08 -summer-beta-preview.php LiveCut is still in development but works like a charm for all manner of slicing. Smartelectronix Bram http://bram.smartelectronix.com/ has Supatrigga for slicing and MadShifta for pitching and feedback effects. Bouncy does the bouncing ball delay. Daisypusher is a "beginners glitch plug", available at http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1632 468 Phutboyslim by scuzzphut does the repeat effect well and easily. scuzzphut6, a pattern based gate does the stutter. http://scuzzphut.panicnow.net/Articles/plugins.htm l Darkware had plenty of glitchy destruction plugins like Shattershot but doesn't seem to be available anymore. maybe one day. http://www.jackdark.net/ Subminimal http://subminimal.org/tools.php has pseudograins. It's a bit difficult to use bizarre little sample mangler granulator. Devine Machine http://www.devine-machine.com/ has Repeat, Gate, Stutter and Scratch in Lucifer and heavy duty loop manipulation in Devine Machine Heizenbox http://www.heizenbox.com/ is a granulizer plugin. xoxos http://www.xoxos.net/vsti.html has Atomic and Gum for buffer overrides and glitching. Very much just standard 'gating', but nifty in its own minimalist way is BetabugsAudio's GetaBlitch Jr. http://www.betabugsaudio.com/plugs.php Tobybear http://www.tobybear.de/ has a collection of plugins that fall under deconstruction/glitch. There's Deconstructor and a collection of several of the great VST oddities in MonsterBag. The grandfather of realtime slicing has to Vellocet Reorder available here: http://www.vellocet.com/software/VReorder.html Whitenoiseaudio http://www.whitenoiseaudio.com/memory/ has a plugin called Memory. Quite similar similar to phutboyslim. Livelab http://www.livelab.dk/ has LiveSlice which does some heavy duty loop manipulation also. Pluggo http://www.cycling74.com/products/pluggo is the daddy of glitch related destruction. ConcreteFX http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1386.html Buffered can do can do things like reversing sound, low-fi pitch shifting and other more eccentric things. Tweakbench http://www.tweakbench.com/effects.php features a pack of FSU effects. There's syncronized gating in Cairo, a granular pitch shifter Sideslip and many more. There's a synthedit repeater creation available called FreeZZZZer 2 by Diverse. http://www.gogma.com/diverse and: Smex LiveCut and Instajungle do some cutting, stuttering and slicing stuff, the Blittr and Hosebeast by Arcane Devices some nice mangling. Instajungle is pretty flexible and could work live. JackDark's fx they make better sends. Modular's Pseudograins could possibly be very cool but I can't actually claim that I understand the gui or how it works. http://www.heizenbox.com/ DaisyPusher ioplong Slifty ******************************* ******************************* From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 07:15:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BB8B3BF15; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBOUUJAQUT Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:15:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 In-Reply-To: <014601c907e3$83856d60$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> Thread-Index: AckH44P6sXvOymbnQNKAn2JP5c1WRgAK0HDQ Resent-Message-ID: <54KFjD.A.VKE.a8PtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Thanks to all of you who replied to my original message which I'm quoting again in parts to create the reference: > "Frankly, I'm getting tired of all that "I can feel the > difference" talk. > Either you're able to do it with a more compact setup, or you > should embrace the thought that you better take yourself and > your tube amp and stompbox setup to the retirement home." There are several statements mixed up in that paragraph, and not all of them clearly separated from each other or sufficiently explained. People here have replied to it in lots of different ways, so I'd like to make that more clear: 1. There is exactly one thing in a typical guitarist's signal chain which cannot by any means be modeled properly by digital modeling (be it within a computer or within an embedded DSP-based system like a Line6 POD or Vox Tonelab or Boss GT10 or whatever), and that is the actual input to the system ("the system" here being everything between your guitar and your audience). Obviously, also George understands that well as he said: > So in my current rig, I've been using a Universal Audio Solo 610 as a tube DI. 2. Comparisons between the two candidates (which in this case has been digital modelling vs. tube amps) is most of the time not conducted in a way which holds any scientific value (read: double blind tests). Clearly, a test setup like > Bill is a completely different musician, however, and I can tell you that I've been with him in his garage trying out amp/tube modeller after amp/tube > modeller with cabinet simulators on the backside and then listened to him play the identical thing through small Fender and Vox vintage tube amps and the > difference is STUNNING! will NOT qualify here. 3. There is a lot of inflexibility with regard to their gear with many musicians - which looks well understandable for e.g. AC/DC who have been playing the exact same music for decades, but which is surprising for musicians which consider themselves as "innovative". 4. Know your setup and know your requirements. Especially if you're using a combination of lots of stompboxes and lots of powerful multi-fx and want to trim that down, this helps. You can either do some kind of formal analysis, or simply take notes while you're playing. If you identified the least-used devices, look if you can replace their functions with other devices already in the setup. Or see if it works if you play without them. I understand that most of you do not like that requirement engineering approach, as exemplified by this reply: > Did you mean...take it to the retirement home...NOW? Cuz that's kinda, like, ouch. Summarizing: Mainly, if you want to haul around huge crates of gear, feel free to do so, independently of whether you live in a retirement home or are touring the world. On the other hand, if you want or need to trim down your setup: the possibilities are (almost always) there, but may require some effort on your part. But please, if you don't know what you need, lack technical understanding, are filled with preconceptions and completely unflexible, then please don't blame technology. If somebody sees this (the items 1-4 above) as arrogant, then well okay: a certain level may look like arrogance from below, as they say. That being said, it wasn't my intention to personally attack or defame anyone here. 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Secteur Fournisseur = d.Acc=E8s Internet=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 08:58:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB6033BF14; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KXxJ7f0C/GyZpE8yX09idxy61pWkiWd+d+b7uHVC8CU=; b=gzlstpzTg0uIUfM4LZv+p8X//QrUj+J1AgNCf60ch7UCa40p7AhQS1Fs9uBkKt4fsM sunKnkoNnxF0rR2zxE0mkRaYBxEDZRcYGvv0Yrmlw0Ar0soI0hDVQMUCAVQVnVYdSY1Z QuklNxNQUvjM4f5EFWNP2+q6eSaUlkjU4KydI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ngAJtJAcPqd05drS9YpHj0lRwESTYzsRjVm9A9gz/0jszYz4l48032Q/FiClGb6La+ +zkabxJgX3twj0FZLLrXSUqWVUu4Igh3hqhFz+Ep9wwUTJdb9L0nduAsLjwNFYU+UBBO bf0igMvctAN0k0YBdsIuo3dtGpIOBYQP8Gw/g= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:58:25 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: M13 has arrived In-Reply-To: <20080827033810.AA23E3BEF8@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6411_7439697.1219827505992" References: <20080827002938.90040@gmx.net> <20080827033810.AA23E3BEF8@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:58:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6411_7439697.1219827505992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks, Dave! I'll be curious to know how the feedback situation works out ...it's definitely a concern for me with the twin DD-20s, i.e., it simply isn't possible for me to do right now ... If you can (I know, I know ... time ... :) ...), audio samples would be great. Dennis On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Dave Gallaher wrote: > I just took delivery on the M13. I only had a half-hour to mess with it, > but I went to the looper straightaway, and it performs nicely right out of > the box. I didn't experience the clicks that Luis indicated, and the > half-speed and reverse are instantaneous. I can make a loop, overdub (and > undo the last overdub), then click off the loop control--the loop keeps > running and I return to the pedal effects to modify the next overdub. > > I also got a Boss F500H to use as an expression pedal with the unit, so > I'll > be able to check out the feedback situation--this is something I use all > the > time on the EDP solo rig. > > My first trip through some of the effects has been pleasing. I was about > to > buy an Eventide Time Factor to plug into the effects loop of my Hot Rod > Deluxe, but after reading that I could send the delays, verbs and other > time-based effects through the loop while sending overdrives, tremolos and > compressors through the front of the amp (the 4 cable method), my mind was > made up. So far, I'm just running it quietly into the front of a Tech 21 > Trademark 60 combo. > > I'll be reading the manual and experimenting more tonight. Dennis and > others, if you have specific questions, send them along. > > dave > > > > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_6411_7439697.1219827505992 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Thanks, Dave! I'll be curious to know how the feedback situation works out ...it's definitely a concern for me with the twin DD-20s, i.e., it simply isn't possible for me to do right now ...

    If you can (I know, I know ... time ... :) ...), audio samples would be great.

    Dennis

    On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Dave Gallaher <micdave@hiwaay.net> wrote:
    I just took delivery on the M13.  I only had a half-hour to mess with it,
    but I went to the looper straightaway, and it performs nicely right out of
    the box.  I didn't experience the clicks that Luis indicated, and the
    half-speed and reverse are instantaneous.  I can make a loop, overdub (and
    undo the last overdub), then click off the loop control--the loop keeps
    running and I return to the pedal effects to modify the next overdub.

    I also got a Boss F500H to use as an expression pedal with the unit, so I'll
    be able to check out the feedback situation--this is something I use all the
    time on the EDP solo rig.

    My first trip through some of the effects has been pleasing.  I was about to
    buy an Eventide Time Factor to plug into the effects loop of my Hot Rod
    Deluxe, but after reading that I could send the delays, verbs and other
    time-based effects through the loop while sending overdrives, tremolos and
    compressors through the front of the amp (the 4 cable method), my mind was
    made up.  So far, I'm just running it quietly into the front of a Tech 21
    Trademark 60 combo.

    I'll be reading the manual and experimenting more tonight.  Dennis and
    others, if you have specific questions, send them along.

    dave







    --
    http://myspace.com/usrsbin
    http://audiozoloft.com
    http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
    ------=_Part_6411_7439697.1219827505992-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 09:16:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F7E73BF17; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=IZhcos6jOAtTsFacq4PGOOM82IZ1x27wUU5LnLqcUM8=; b=B7B3kkp6ZwA/lSWtZKR6tOqR0MR37ROZ0/bzYHdcM0UCK51Re4icAZeBH1FgOZrDBw ap28kvFEOHwBCxaBdEwe+GbmKYBEmzKbHZhakrkitOvkokiqudigcbuiehJ32PpKVJ64 BpZYfFnHJb+NGUB4AHayh5NvdKAUD1LzUa/HI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BEMvK+6NuYnEeSPKlNcLpKk4Gr2LQIqFKzddl5aqmz/+oY/0ekz1u8lpBj3197xk1U g+kCE/EzrayyMAzDzZVKbaTOWVnyJiPfkeO5kXJzcO7qQgWy77vYkeRpr6xzs1YXwrMl +M6wD/4976rzI6sjPSbC0ptJ8h7xQlaur8OYo= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:16:18 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6574_24269401.1219828578508" References: <014601c907e3$83856d60$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:16:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6574_24269401.1219828578508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Rainer, You crack me ... Du bist Soooooo Deutscher! Please keep pricking our collective consciences with your Teutonic objectivity. Es mu=DF nicht ander= s sein ... Sp=E4ter, Dennis On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill < rs@moinlabs.de> wrote: > Thanks to all of you who replied to my original message which I'm quoting > again in parts to create the reference: > > > "Frankly, I'm getting tired of all that "I can feel the > > difference" talk. > > Either you're able to do it with a more compact setup, or you > > should embrace the thought that you better take yourself and > > your tube amp and stompbox setup to the retirement home." > > There are several statements mixed up in that paragraph, and not all of > them > clearly separated from each other or sufficiently explained. People here > have replied to it in lots of different ways, so I'd like to make that mo= re > clear: > > 1. There is exactly one thing in a typical guitarist's signal chain which > cannot by any means be modeled properly by digital modeling (be it within= a > computer or within an embedded DSP-based system like a Line6 POD or Vox > Tonelab or Boss GT10 or whatever), and that is the actual input to the > system ("the system" here being everything between your guitar and your > audience). > Obviously, also George understands that well as he said: > > So in my current rig, I've been using a Universal Audio Solo 610 as a > tube > DI. > > 2. Comparisons between the two candidates (which in this case has been > digital modelling vs. tube amps) is most of the time not conducted in a w= ay > which holds any scientific value (read: double blind tests). Clearly, a > test > setup like > > Bill is a completely different musician, however, and I can tell you th= at > I've been with him in his garage trying out amp/tube modeller after > amp/tube > > > modeller with cabinet simulators on the backside and then listened to h= im > play the identical thing through small Fender and Vox vintage tube amps a= nd > the > difference is STUNNING! > will NOT qualify here. > > 3. There is a lot of inflexibility with regard to their gear with many > musicians - which looks well understandable for e.g. AC/DC who have been > playing the exact same music for decades, but which is surprising for > musicians which consider themselves as "innovative". > > 4. Know your setup and know your requirements. Especially if you're using= a > combination of lots of stompboxes and lots of powerful multi-fx and want = to > trim that down, this helps. You can either do some kind of formal analysi= s, > or simply take notes while you're playing. If you identified the least-us= ed > devices, look if you can replace their functions with other devices alrea= dy > in the setup. Or see if it works if you play without them. > I understand that most of you do not like that requirement engineering > approach, as exemplified by this reply: > > Did you mean...take it to the retirement home...NOW? Cuz that's kinda, > like, ouch. > > > Summarizing: Mainly, if you want to haul around huge crates of gear, feel > free to do so, independently of whether you live in a retirement home or > are > touring the world. On the other hand, if you want or need to trim down yo= ur > setup: the possibilities are (almost always) there, but may require some > effort on your part. But please, if you don't know what you need, lack > technical understanding, are filled with preconceptions and completely > unflexible, then please don't blame technology. > > > If somebody sees this (the items 1-4 above) as arrogant, then well okay: = a > certain level may look like arrogance from below, as they say. > > That being said, it wasn't my intention to personally attack or defame > anyone here. > > Thanks for all your input, > > Rainer > > --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_6574_24269401.1219828578508 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
    Rainer,

    You crack me ... Du bist Soooooo Deutscher!= Please keep pricking our collective consciences with your Teutonic objecti= vity. Es mu=DF nicht anders sein ...

    Sp=E4ter,

    Dennis

    =
    On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de><= /span> wrote:
    Thanks to all of you who replied to my original message which I'm quoti= ng
    again in parts to create the reference:

    > "Frankly, I'm getting tired of all that "I can feel the<= br> > difference" talk.
    > Either you're able to do it with a more compact setup, or you
    > should embrace the thought that you better take yourself and
    > your tube amp and stompbox setup to the retirement home."

    There are several statements mixed up in that paragraph, and not all = of them
    clearly separated from each other or sufficiently explained. People here have replied to it in lots of different ways, so I'd like to make that = more
    clear:

    1. There is exactly one thing in a typical guitarist's signal chain whi= ch
    cannot by any means be modeled properly by digital modeling (be it within a=
    computer or within an embedded DSP-based system like a Line6 POD or Vox
    Tonelab or Boss GT10 or whatever), and that is the actual input to the
    system ("the system" here being everything between your guitar an= d your
    audience).
    Obviously, also George understands that well as he sa= id:
    > So in my current rig, I've been using a Universal Audio Solo 610 a= s a tube
    DI.

    2. Comparisons between the two candidates (which in this case has bee= n
    digital modelling vs. tube amps) is most of the time not conducted in a way=
    which holds any scientific value (read: double blind tests). Clearly, a tes= t
    setup like
    > Bill is a completely different musician, however= , and I can tell you that
    I've been with him in his garage trying out amp/tube modeller after amp= /tube

    > modeller with cabinet simulators on the backside and then listened to = him
    play the identical thing through small Fender and Vox vintage tube amps and=
    the > difference is STUNNING!
    will NOT qualify here.

    3. There is a lot of inflexibility with regard to their gear with many
    musicians - which looks well understandable for e.g. AC/DC who have been playing the exact same music for decades, but which is surprising for
    musicians which consider themselves as "innovative".

    4. Know your setup and know your requirements. Especially if you're usi= ng a
    combination of lots of stompboxes and lots of powerful multi-fx and want to=
    trim that down, this helps. You can either do some kind of formal analysis,=
    or simply take notes while you're playing. If you identified the least-= used
    devices, look if you can replace their functions with other devices already=
    in the setup. Or see if it works if you play without them.
    I understand that most of you do not like that requirement engineering
    approach, as exemplified by this reply:
    > Did you mean...take it to the retirement home...= NOW? Cuz that's kinda,
    like, ouch.


    Summarizing: Mainly, if you want to haul around huge crates of gear, = feel
    free to do so, independently of whether you live in a retirement home or ar= e
    touring the world. On the other hand, if you want or need to trim down your=
    setup: the possibilities are (almost always) there, but may require some effort on your part. But please, if you don't know what you need, lack<= br> technical understanding, are filled with preconceptions and completely
    unflexible, then please don't blame technology.


    If somebody sees this (the items 1-4 above) as arrogant, then well okay: a<= br> certain level may look like arrogance from below, as they say.

    That being said, it wasn't my intention to personally attack or defame<= br> anyone here.

    Thanks for all your input,

           Rainer




    --
    http://myspace.com/usrsbin
    http://audiozoloft.com
    http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 11:15:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 756803BF07; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:15:36 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:M13 has arrived MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:15:38 +0000 (UTC) M13 questions: - What sync options does it support? Midi master or slave or both? - what's the maximum delay time? --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 11:53:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEA273BF07; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1219838020; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=zdpaJIA9Ou3vgXt1/DdrweGNqIY=; b=eKtGFRb0NX09tAikfJI50/DD7CQo06HgYUhlDM53NPNW5SJt4jwoSY2jckRjvqBL EXeNC0o1Ic1QGncDgdqTEWyIwnygWGyCt6lrb8y5pQ/qOZCzvd+bjXTZgzhagP85; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=Deb25UA9sNdR562u2JcA:9 a=c4vX05BO_vBKv5RNUcUA:7 a=ONz0T1klQ5fAGtlAZZcuwHEqNvgA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=BpqUGxorProA:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <003001c9083b$8bfac550$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <632579.71775.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:53:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for that Louis! I remember seeing on tv about 40 years ago. Man am i old.....lol the ol' hippi, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify > and this guitar fx will always survive: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq6r23-le5o > > i love how gently he stumps on his pedal:-D > Luis > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Daryl Shawn wrote: > >> From: Daryl Shawn >> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:40 PM >> Did you mean...take it to the retirement home...NOW? Cuz >> that's kinda, >> like, ouch. >> >> Or did you mean that, at the point when we're ready for >> the retirement >> home, the non-laptoppers will still be dragging the amps >> and stompboxes >> around? Cuz that's like, no big deal. Great inheritance >> for the kiddies. >> >> Not that compact isn't desirable and necessary, but I >> can tell you that >> in 20 years, none of the computer hardware or software >> you're using now >> will be supported and you'll have spent thousands >> upgrading every five >> years, whilst a 2008 Matchless amp will still be going >> strong and worth >> five times what it sold for originally... :-D ... >> >> not even remotely involved, >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >> > And, really, there's nothing more to say. Frankly, >> I'm getting tired of all >> > that "I can feel the difference" talk. >> Either you're able to do it with a >> > more compact setup, or you should embrace the thought >> that you better take >> > yourself and your tube amp and stompbox setup to the >> retirement home. > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1636 - Release Date: 8/26/2008 > 7:09 PM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 12:02:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B3C73BF06; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=gXJ48B84OAqpnGSuAXNW7jS/LT8kQyl4KA/CknEv1jI=; b=JtQ5dxkT7ZwG6JBU0sgaERUslK7dMl2+6wyCiDUZAxCV/AgpHTIdI0PmNvGcaPS5+v 8eovQTgZOAnLjq/SyZkXFCkusMufXUWS7bUrwkBm4/XLjJIiCgWiTFwbmRTXPdBgCM8o 1LZNELUgDikEF9hy3BBwrbrgXW8QhoyJJiNOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=HDHFDkl6Dt0/OaKZuenb9WcSCnBwuNu/S1nXrE6Bj+AmGs3ta3QU9otyJ8mkgCdL+M 4+swU7TeALcKGiEMvP4jY1OfI18uof59AWoG6HybMIkuqYQ4/dqa/0zN2LHeGIrpZ8ZO QoOxh5Pg5ZSGZEc3LpVKtXL5AtXm95cPsSeJo= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:02:20 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: elec gtr setup - to simplify In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8848_1644986.1219838540176" References: <014601c907e3$83856d60$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:02:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8848_1644986.1219838540176 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sorry ... that should have said "Rainer, you crack me UP ..." so much for not having sufficient caffeination ... that's one area software is gonnahave a hard time replacing hardware. "Give me expresso or give meth!" (Just kidding about the meth part ... but you'll pry my jumbo teacup out of my dead stiff fingers!) Immer die Beste! Dennis On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill < rs@moinlabs.de> wrote: > Thanks to all of you who replied to my original message which I'm quoting > again in parts to create the reference: > > > "Frankly, I'm getting tired of all that "I can feel the > > difference" talk. > > Either you're able to do it with a more compact setup, or you > > should embrace the thought that you better take yourself and > > your tube amp and stompbox setup to the retirement home." > > There are several statements mixed up in that paragraph, and not all of > them > clearly separated from each other or sufficiently explained. People here > have replied to it in lots of different ways, so I'd like to make that more > clear: > > 1. There is exactly one thing in a typical guitarist's signal chain which > cannot by any means be modeled properly by digital modeling (be it within a > computer or within an embedded DSP-based system like a Line6 POD or Vox > Tonelab or Boss GT10 or whatever), and that is the actual input to the > system ("the system" here being everything between your guitar and your > audience). > Obviously, also George understands that well as he said: > > So in my current rig, I've been using a Universal Audio Solo 610 as a > tube > DI. > > 2. Comparisons between the two candidates (which in this case has been > digital modelling vs. tube amps) is most of the time not conducted in a way > which holds any scientific value (read: double blind tests). Clearly, a > test > setup like > > Bill is a completely different musician, however, and I can tell you that > I've been with him in his garage trying out amp/tube modeller after > amp/tube > > > modeller with cabinet simulators on the backside and then listened to him > play the identical thing through small Fender and Vox vintage tube amps and > the > difference is STUNNING! > will NOT qualify here. > > 3. There is a lot of inflexibility with regard to their gear with many > musicians - which looks well understandable for e.g. AC/DC who have been > playing the exact same music for decades, but which is surprising for > musicians which consider themselves as "innovative". > > 4. Know your setup and know your requirements. Especially if you're using a > combination of lots of stompboxes and lots of powerful multi-fx and want to > trim that down, this helps. You can either do some kind of formal analysis, > or simply take notes while you're playing. If you identified the least-used > devices, look if you can replace their functions with other devices already > in the setup. Or see if it works if you play without them. > I understand that most of you do not like that requirement engineering > approach, as exemplified by this reply: > > Did you mean...take it to the retirement home...NOW? Cuz that's kinda, > like, ouch. > > > Summarizing: Mainly, if you want to haul around huge crates of gear, feel > free to do so, independently of whether you live in a retirement home or > are > touring the world. On the other hand, if you want or need to trim down your > setup: the possibilities are (almost always) there, but may require some > effort on your part. But please, if you don't know what you need, lack > technical understanding, are filled with preconceptions and completely > unflexible, then please don't blame technology. > > > If somebody sees this (the items 1-4 above) as arrogant, then well okay: a > certain level may look like arrogance from below, as they say. > > That being said, it wasn't my intention to personally attack or defame > anyone here. > > Thanks for all your input, > > Rainer > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_8848_1644986.1219838540176 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    Sorry ... that should have said "Rainer, you crack me UP ..." so much for not having sufficient caffeination ... that's one area software is gonnahave a hard time replacing hardware. "Give me expresso or give meth!" (Just kidding about the meth part ... but you'll pry my jumbo teacup out of my dead stiff fingers!)

    Immer die Beste!

    Dennis


    On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de> wrote:
    Thanks to all of you who replied to my original message which I'm quoting
    again in parts to create the reference:

    > "Frankly, I'm getting tired of all that "I can feel the
    > difference" talk.
    > Either you're able to do it with a more compact setup, or you
    > should embrace the thought that you better take yourself and
    > your tube amp and stompbox setup to the retirement home."

    There are several statements mixed up in that paragraph, and not all of them
    clearly separated from each other or sufficiently explained. People here
    have replied to it in lots of different ways, so I'd like to make that more
    clear:

    1. There is exactly one thing in a typical guitarist's signal chain which
    cannot by any means be modeled properly by digital modeling (be it within a
    computer or within an embedded DSP-based system like a Line6 POD or Vox
    Tonelab or Boss GT10 or whatever), and that is the actual input to the
    system ("the system" here being everything between your guitar and your
    audience).
    Obviously, also George understands that well as he said:
    > So in my current rig, I've been using a Universal Audio Solo 610 as a tube
    DI.

    2. Comparisons between the two candidates (which in this case has been
    digital modelling vs. tube amps) is most of the time not conducted in a way
    which holds any scientific value (read: double blind tests). Clearly, a test
    setup like
    > Bill is a completely different musician, however, and I can tell you that
    I've been with him in his garage trying out amp/tube modeller after amp/tube

    > modeller with cabinet simulators on the backside and then listened to him
    play the identical thing through small Fender and Vox vintage tube amps and
    the > difference is STUNNING!
    will NOT qualify here.

    3. There is a lot of inflexibility with regard to their gear with many
    musicians - which looks well understandable for e.g. AC/DC who have been
    playing the exact same music for decades, but which is surprising for
    musicians which consider themselves as "innovative".

    4. Know your setup and know your requirements. Especially if you're using a
    combination of lots of stompboxes and lots of powerful multi-fx and want to
    trim that down, this helps. You can either do some kind of formal analysis,
    or simply take notes while you're playing. If you identified the least-used
    devices, look if you can replace their functions with other devices already
    in the setup. Or see if it works if you play without them.
    I understand that most of you do not like that requirement engineering
    approach, as exemplified by this reply:
    > Did you mean...take it to the retirement home...NOW? Cuz that's kinda,
    like, ouch.


    Summarizing: Mainly, if you want to haul around huge crates of gear, feel
    free to do so, independently of whether you live in a retirement home or are
    touring the world. On the other hand, if you want or need to trim down your
    setup: the possibilities are (almost always) there, but may require some
    effort on your part. But please, if you don't know what you need, lack
    technical understanding, are filled with preconceptions and completely
    unflexible, then please don't blame technology.


    If somebody sees this (the items 1-4 above) as arrogant, then well okay: a
    certain level may look like arrogance from below, as they say.

    That being said, it wasn't my intention to personally attack or defame
    anyone here.

    Thanks for all your input,

           Rainer




    --
    http://myspace.com/usrsbin
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    ------=_Part_8848_1644986.1219838540176-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 12:07:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E7BD3BF22; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1219838862; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=P9x+1qjX3h9G/v5rXeYbQEnDSQQ=; b=Mwk6yZUPvQhoW/8Vdxjl/Nthc75xFrFxkFUIHOjW8PYO8sO2csJqLyudSgTBtcO2 nIbVveiEKiPw7awjL6PL8X6gwLslt8+VJC+UQPPEn/C1gLJXZwxxvfoWcs8ffckb; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7pyTGxBNO58QhY7UPCYA:9 a=OOkHlnYc95vy3X8TQF9g5U79cL4A:4 a=6bqG61NMjcsA:10 a=UTcEOr-ny0cdc4vE82YA:9 a=awnPiN3DlMiUEQe1k4IA:7 a=bNE0fFq3r-gx7quCkciqBZkr6L8A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001401c9083d$81e5ad30$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: reply to Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:07:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9081B.FA63E640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:07:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9081B.FA63E640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could someone refresh me on why when I reply to some messages it puts = the senders address and not the LD email addy in the to box. It was = brought up before I just can't remember....seems like its on the senders = end. Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9081B.FA63E640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Could someone refresh me on why = when I reply=20 to some messages it puts the senders address and not the LD email addy = in the to=20 box. It was brought up before I just can't remember....seems like its on = the=20 senders end.
     
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    ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9081B.FA63E640-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 12:34:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D640E3BF14; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Kq+Rj/DI4QhQDe0Ppmz/Ajfc9FwXGrWm74cIY7KGfgMHV/d+YgcKxnxGig/lP2G08AlqGF4HL8F4MzLjb0zlsLR2pPD9Y0cbxkqGAWnsW4bQJKfz9bpN7mMZzMSxj01XPwtsek8c7YTG6vdQR7LxSSAzw0HBoKDUK7PL8/pSv7M=; X-YMail-OSG: KZZI2MYVM1kgFp2E0gPfaIwmBRL2AevlHXFUIeNlYALQ7HySkHlHsKtOdskEkgswJGplMiR_6no2d9TnJWltpfIAZDckHBZ51HH0BHrNNpIe3Q4_ktJ4KhQnXJ7vjrXBHrNAGN0lSuUCeI5tfPcrIPL4 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:M13 has arrived To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <783997.59479.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Hey Sjaak! As far as i know the M13 sends and receives CC=B4s and PC=B4s and is implem= ented to control all of the looper functions,FX on/off bypass,tap tempo,ccs= for exp pedal and scene selection.So far there is no sync support i think = and it cannot act as a footcontroller.I was really looking forward to that = to control my eventide stompbox which has midi;-( but the y might bring a firmware update soon so lets bug them about it! did you order it or are you going to? still debating wether i should get rid of all my stomps now including the D= L4! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: Re:M13 has arrived > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 4:15 AM > M13 questions: > - What sync options does it support? Midi master or slave > or both? > - what's the maximum delay time? >=20 > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 13:16:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D31373BF1A; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=TjMzoxFVUIAJ3T94taQt8Be6NrnGe9WnqRIvGCwRk6tlc7GSdb1YucEPg2kBsIDmZLOwg28a9zE+zMdXDOZs4luiFQ3GyTUDrboa3U6Mgv/eg75bhHk8MvWyTYcHTpg8mh99oRT9mePpzy51PLN5m8CAWqpyx5rrSIuWtei0RgI=; X-YMail-OSG: KiNJqf0VM1mIcepcb8OYJWQjVNslfPIAsXaX95skOQcK5STLw0KMQm9arKczlTl.Gw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:16:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <267264.77382.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:16:22 +0000 (UTC) i dont think anybody is blaming technology itself,i think is just dissaproving of false advertisment which a lot of companies are profiting from,claiming tweed fenders,mesa boogies,fuzzboxes analog fuuzes univibes etc.all nicely packed in a micro light pocket plastic device to go straight into the P.A. All of them are well aware that nobody nowdays want to carry bulky equipment but want to sound like their idols,so they give you crappy loud presets so you get a hard on and think you bought the right stuff.Now,if you have been working on tone for 30 years like Bill and know how good something real sounds, offcourse you are going to have a hardtime downgrading just because is small and portable.If you dont know the difference and just play as a hobbist you are going to think guitarrist looking for the answer should not wine and retire. Guitar remains one of the most popular instrument and a lot of companies are there to make a buck while it lasts, making you think you are going to sound amazing live with a Pandora or Zoom G.2 or a plugin with great graphics of the old gear.(Thats not to say that that you couldnt sound good,a good musician could sound good with a ping pong ball)thats why i support Chris statement that "its virtual and its different" and thats why companies should probably stop naming the stuff after what they are trying to model and give it a different name because it aint gonna sound the same ever.(but then they wouldnt make a buck;-) bottom line remains how far we are willing to make the compromise of sound for comfort.But companies that are listening to critical professional musicians who know the difference (instead of hobbie ones) might make it possible someday for serious musicians to make that compromise. Luis > > Summarizing: Mainly, if you want to haul around huge crates > of gear, feel > free to do so, independently of whether you live in a > retirement home or are > touring the world. On the other hand, if you want or need > to trim down your > setup: the possibilities are (almost always) there, but may > require some > effort on your part. But please, if you don't know what > you need, lack > technical understanding, are filled with preconceptions and > completely > unflexible, then please don't blame technology. > > > If somebody sees this (the items 1-4 above) as arrogant, > then well okay: a > certain level may look like arrogance from below, as they > say. > > That being said, it wasn't my intention to personally > attack or defame > anyone here. > > Thanks for all your input, > > Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 13:30:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 301AF3BF16; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:30:18 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:M13 has arrived MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:30:20 +0000 (UTC) > Luis wrote: > did you order it or are you going to? Hey Luis, how are you? :) I'm currently working on a new live setup and I= 'm looking for a FX unit to use as a pre or post-looper in combination wi= th the LP1. Candidates are the Eventide TF, M13 and Kaosspad 3. 3 totally= different fx processors, so I need to figure out which one meets my req'= s. So far, I have played an hour with the KP3 but I haven't heard the Eventi= de and M13 yet. I think the M13 offers good value for the money but it mi= ght be a little big and heavy...or not? I already have a FC-300 surf boar= d so it's already crowded on stage ;) Btw: Do you like the Eventide delay? I've heard from guitarists it's soun= d is fantastic. And does it have a good analog delay? --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 13:42:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3F303BF1C; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em00 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:42:51 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200808271342.m7RDgpwq021219@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 82.135.43.198 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7c31SC.A.plE.cnVtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Just to be sure I get this right: hobbyist automaticall and infailably mean= s "he don't know the difference", or basically, don't know shit? I really don't get it why somebody, just to dream up an example, who holds = a university degree both in music and engineering and has spent considerabl= e time characterizing and evaluating audio systems, by manufacturers that a= re believed by many (even people with a garage) to be among the best of the= ir kind, and as part of that has actually spent a lot of effort into devisi= ng tests that don't fool you as easily as the tube amp in a (most probably = not properly treated) garage (especially if you already made up your mind b= efore you started the test), let alone a lot of hearing training, let's jus= t say such a person would exist, why that person can under no circumstances= ever in his lifetime "know the difference", unless he gets rid of all his = professional qualification (however that may work, perhaps by subjecting yo= ur ears to 24/7 of nearfield jackhammering, combined with lots of alcohol a= nd other rock'n'roll drugs?), moves into a garage and becomes a professiona= l. Please fill me in. ----- original Nachricht -------- >If you dont know the difference and just play as a hobbist you are going t= o think guitarrist looking for the answer should not >wine and retire. > for comfort.But companies that are listening to critical professional > musicians who know the difference (instead of hobbie ones) might make it > possible someday for serious musicians to make that compromise.=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 13:51:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B1813BF26; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em00 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:51:19 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200808271351.m7RDpJHb024161@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify - post scriptum X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 82.135.43.198 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:51:20 +0000 (UTC) > Just to be sure I get this right: hobbyist automaticall and infailably me= ans > "he don't know the difference", or basically, don't know shit? This last post of mine is by no means meant to attack or put down people wh= o have anything to do with a garage, neither in general nor specifically. T= he image of the musician in a garage in my mind came from the "Joe's Garage= " album (that garage did have a tube amp!), and only after sending my post = I became aware of the misleading associations this may have in the context = of this thread. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 15:22:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A7D13BECF; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:22:23 UTC X-YMail-OSG: qG8Ct7UVM1mzQ28.US825GNJldxUzHA6tlUnTBAAup2httuyQL7h4lpfku019h9j7LSdHMNiI9I8.o1l3Fkk2pnXpXz0kXUKCeuH_F5UtRy9D_5wM.JoBFl9jQMPgN8- Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:15:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Wegmann Subject: Re: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify - post scriptum To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200808271351.m7RDpJHb024161@post.webmailer.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1227180319-1219850141=:72939" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <980802.72939.qm@web84102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:22:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-1227180319-1219850141=:72939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rolling Stones - worlds greatest garage band, heard this since the 60's... man am I old! WEG rs@moinlabs.de wrote: > Just to be sure I get this right: hobbyist automaticall and infailably means > "he don't know the difference", or basically, don't know shit? This last post of mine is by no means meant to attack or put down people who have anything to do with a garage, neither in general nor specifically. The image of the musician in a garage in my mind came from the "Joe's Garage" album (that garage did have a tube amp!), and only after sending my post I became aware of the misleading associations this may have in the context of this thread. My URL http://www.myspace.com/noyestheater My Blog URL http://blog.myspace.com/noyestheater --0-1227180319-1219850141=:72939 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Rolling Stones - worlds greatest garage band,  heard this since the 60's...  man am I old!
     
    WEG

    rs@moinlabs.de wrote:
    > Just to be sure I get this right: hobbyist automaticall and infailably means
    > "he don't know the difference", or basically, don't know shit?

    This last post of mine is by no means meant to attack or put down people who have anything to do with a garage, neither in general nor specifically. The image of the musician in a garage in my mind came from the "Joe's Garage" album (that garage did have a tube amp!), and only after sending my post I became aware of the misleading associations this may have in the context of this thread.




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I have a file= before me and the data's are correct and un-tampered.=0D=0A=0D=0A As it = is my duty to recommend the transfer of these surplus funds to the Federa= l Government Treasury and Reserve Accounts as unclaimed deposits, I have = the opportunity to write you based on the instructions I received two day= s ago from the Foreign Debts reconciliation dept to submit the List of pa= yment reports / expenditures and audited reports of revenues. Among sever= al others, I have decided to remit your claim sum following my idea that = we can have a deal/agreement and I am going to do this legally.=0D=0A =0D= =0AMy conditions:=0D=0A =0D=0A1. The sum of USD$25.7M only will be transf= er into your account after the proccessing of all relevant legal document= s with your name as the bonfide beneficary,the transfer will be made by D= raft or telegraphic Transfer (T/T), confirmable in 3 working days.2. This= deal must be kept secret forever, and all correspondence will be strictl= y by email / telephone, for security purposes.=0D=0A=0D=0A3. There should= be no third parties as most problem associated with your fund release ar= e caused by your agents or representative. =0D=0A4. Note that after the s= uccessful completion of this transaction,you and I will have a fair share= of the fund in the ratio of 50:50.=0D=0A =0D=0AIf you AGREE with my cond= itions, l advise you on what to do immediately and the transfer will comm= ence without delay as I will proceed to fix your name on the Payment sche= dule instantly to meet the three days mandate.=0D=0A =0D=0A1. Your Full N= ame =0D=0A2. Current Address=0D=0A3. Direct Phone/Cell Number =0D=0A4 Oc= cupations =0D=0A5. Age. =0D=0A6. Company(if Any)/Address.=0D=0A7. Bank De= tails:=0D=0A8. Bank Name:=0D=0A9 .Bank Address:=0D=0A10.Account Number:=0D= =0A11.Swift/Routing Number:=0D=0A12.Account Name: =0D=0AI hope you don'= t reject this offer and have this funds transferred.=0D=0A =0D=0AWaiting = for your reply soon.=0D=0A =0D=0AYours faithfully, =0D=0ADr.Martins Egoka= ,=0D=0ADirector,Allocation Department=0D=0ACentral Bank of Nigeria.=0D=0A= Email :centralbankplcng@walla.com=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A= =0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0A=0A=0A---------------------- ALICE N=B01 de la= RELATION CLIENT 2008*--------------------=0AD=E9couvrez vite l'offre exc= lusive ALICE BOX! En cliquant ici http://abonnement.aliceadsl.fr Offre so= umise =E0 conditions.*Source : TNS SOFRES / BEARING POINT. 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Yours faithfully, Albert Moore Spam Filtered (ID:1995520) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 16:58:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 660D13BEC1; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <959909F9-2CAB-45FE-91D8-EB5288C012D6@zerocrossing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:58:12 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Perfectly put Rainer. The person was clearly asking how they might simplify their guitar set up and whether or not you think it's good, computers are a valid way of taking something that used to weigh 2000 lb (400 lb of that was cables) and make it into something that weighs 50 lbs. Now, in a perfect world I'd have a huge studio peppered with tons of beautiful audio gear. Enough of it so that I'd never have to repatch anything! Need another looper? Buy one for each instrument! Good old tube amplifiers can indeed be an amazing thing. They can also be noisy temperamental beasts. They're also expensive, bulky and heavy. In my imperfect world I have a small room in a condo and I use software to get the job done. Don't like it? Don't do it. Anyway, you can say what you like about computer gear and software, but it's here to stay. I've come here from the future to tell you that in 2109 your guitar rig will plug into the back of your skull and in a moment you'll feel exactly the same experience as if you were in Electric ladyland studio using Jimi Hendrix's gear. Don't even ask what the groupie.app will do. On Aug 27, 2008, at 12:15 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > Summarizing: Mainly, if you want to haul around huge crates of > gear, feel > free to do so, independently of whether you live in a retirement > home or are > touring the world. On the other hand, if you want or need to trim > down your > setup: the possibilities are (almost always) there, but may require > some > effort on your part. But please, if you don't know what you need, lack > technical understanding, are filled with preconceptions and completely > unflexible, then please don't blame technology. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 17:26:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AB053BEC7; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20046.19614.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20046.19614.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:26:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <8picD.A.xbC.84YtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:26:20 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 26, 2008, at 9:29 PM, George Ludwig wrote: >> Absolutely! But even an M13 is way better than buying software. I >> don't want to go in to all the reasons why, but anyone who has >> owned/maintained a computer system for more than a few years >> understands this implicitly. Uh, I've been using computers for music and art since the early 90s and I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah, there are things you need to do when using a computer, but so be it. When multitrack recording involved tapes there was tons of crap you had to do to maintain them too. Each technology has it's own issues. > For myself, I'd prefer to buy digital hardware than software > because the hardware (i.e., an M13) is it's own platform. You don't > have to worry about things like: > > 1. the copy protection scheme becoming unsupported > 2. the only supported OS being "end-of-lifed" > 3. the computer hardware being "end-of-lifed" So what about "end of lifed?" My laptop says it'll support Vista, but I won't go there. Why? I don't think of it that way. I treat my computer like a dedicated hardware device to some degree. I've already stopped upgrading all my software. It all works. I back up my hard drives and if they fail I'll buy another until I can't get a hard dive for it any longer. My wife has a IBM laptop that she's had for almost ten years now and it still runs all the software she installed on it. I wouldn't try my latest amp modelers on it, but it's still a useful piece of gear. > > On a related note, I will NEVER buy any more 1K Multimedia products > due to their tight lock-in with flaky copy protection (don't ask me > about my experience with authorization for Amplitube). Steam is > pouring out of my ears at the very memory! Hm, I've had no issues with their authorization, and my one service request was answered really quickly. I was mad at their midi implementation and the product manager personally emailed me about it. Really solid company I think. I can't believe an email couldn't clear up your problem. > Small software enterpises come and go all the time. To expect them > to stick around is just unrealistic. And even if they are around, > to expect them to remain at the status quo is once again lunacy. > Case in point, Apple's aquisition of Logic. If you were running > Logic on a PC, you were SOL. Unless you have the last version of Logic and then you're fine. Why does everyone thing that if software development dies so does the software? The developer of one of my favorite tape loopers died a little while ago and you know what? I'm still using his software and I bet I will for a long time. Oh and I forgot. That software? (Elottronix) IS FREE. Show me that in the world of hardware. > > Not to harsh on any scabs, but does anyone else remember the Gibson > takeover of Opcode and the resulting orphanage of OMS? Not to > mention StudioVisionPro...I still frickin' seriously weep for the > loss off Opcode, not to mention the gigatinc loss of SVP. Yup. That sucked big time. Shame on Gibson. Guess what? They do that to hardware as well. Couldn't buy a new Steinberger for years. Oberheim? Where is that rascally Echoplex Digital Pro II... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 17:39:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3227D3BEC3; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:39:03 -0500 Subject: RE: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Thread-Topic: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Thread-Index: AckH8ikc6xpmT5QsTMeE1dsDQIz65QAd1ldA Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:39:06 +0000 (UTC) > From: Travis Hartnett [mailto:travishartnett@gmail.com] Wow, it's been what, 2 years since we've had a hardware vs software debate? That's too long! :-) I don't have a useful opinion on the aesthetic differences between amps and modelers, but you bring economics into the discussion... > Musical hardware (actual amps, guitars and effects) hold their value > better than almost anything else in your house. This may be true for amps and guitars, but less so for effects. Oh, maybe some classic analog devices but most digital devices are obsolete after a few years. I literally have a storage shed full of musical hardware I've bought over the past 20 years that I can barely give away. Anyone want to buy a Digitech DSP-128? A Korg SDD-1000? A Lexicon JamMan with jittery rotary encoders? As I've said here before, I don't find the comparison between the cost of a computer and the cost of a piece of hardware very meaningful. Sure, computers are not built to last and they have to be replaced every few years. But depending on your age they have become an indispensible part of life like refrigerators, televisions, iPODs, and leaf blowers. If you're under 25 it's just assumed you have one. At least in "rich" societies that can afford to buy things like televisions and boutique amplifiers. It's sort of like saying you need to factor your car into the cost of your rig because you need one to drive to a gig. Now I know that isn't fair either, most gigging laptop musicians will invest in a purpose-built performance computer. But it still has value outside the rig. So realistically the "price" is somewhere in between "it's free because I already have 4" and "I had to buy a quad-core that does nothing but run Amplitube". Jeff Oh, and I would buy a VHT Sig:X in a heartbeat if it weren't for the fact that I'm a paunchy old man that has finally abandoned his dreams of playing for screaming fans. And I need a new leaf blower. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 17:47:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 059473BEC9; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:47:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:47:41 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > Oh, and I would buy a VHT Sig:X in a heartbeat if it weren't for > the fact that I'm a paunchy old man that has finally abandoned his > dreams of playing for screaming fans. And I need a new leaf blower. > Leaf blowers suck! They're loud, noisy, polluting unreliable and costly to buy and maintain. They'll never give you the feel of a good rake! When the aliens destroy our society your leaf blower will be worth nothing yet I'll still have a nice looking lawn with my trusty rake! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 17:48:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D99AA3BED2; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=brqc4574cKe3QmuIELhN0abE9ep+IZZ3aoCYB0PK7l4=; b=Zgr2eSikAy5dLJGF6lKbhGwqdzEumnnUsMDnblR9tTs33BAywL7CdwT2IugJQDZtqE zKiZSWmoo4oX9HeUrczdkM0dN+SKptCyOORNhFFj6iPIy+lvy2LM+JI5Qs0SQ84qHa8l jsGRB5vWrbMCZp9Nin1MdTTVNIf6L0TajoVFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=NR0craWTb8AYpsy19h/XdV+nwWEpH03kUC6XKv9dJoI9towzleremZxfMCFU/YJcQB YKtnJteHmdSvvC+ND762u4SN7mq/LORKLp6j8Zw7EG9lfyZL6Y5WLnvp7Yxvy7/aHtSG oRfG/exbB3Yzab/3QthIs4Hbtp7sPc+S8fesE= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:48:16 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21561_25788526.1219859296174" References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:48:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21561_25788526.1219859296174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I suspect you'd get more for any one of those pieces than you would for any PC-based recording software or plug-ins from the same era... On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > > > Musical hardware (actual amps, guitars and effects) hold their value > > better than almost anything else in your house. > > This may be true for amps and guitars, but less so for effects. Oh, > maybe some classic analog devices but most digital devices are > obsolete after a few years. I literally have a storage shed full of > musical hardware I've bought over the past 20 years that I can barely > give away. Anyone want to buy a Digitech DSP-128? A Korg SDD-1000? > A Lexicon JamMan with jittery rotary encoders? > > ------=_Part_21561_25788526.1219859296174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I suspect you'd get more for any one of those pieces than you would for any PC-based recording software or plug-ins from the same era...


    On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:



    > Musical hardware (actual amps, guitars and effects) hold their value
    > better than almost anything else in your house.

    This may be true for amps and guitars, but less so for effects.  Oh,
    maybe some classic analog devices but most digital devices are
    obsolete after a few years.  I literally have a storage shed full of
    musical hardware I've bought over the past 20 years that I can barely
    give away.  Anyone want to buy a Digitech DSP-128?  A Korg SDD-1000?
    A Lexicon JamMan with jittery rotary encoders?


    ------=_Part_21561_25788526.1219859296174-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 18:07:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 226173BED9; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=rhAwSQ8egYo0OQjrIail8pxdd4EIEMaMKxa4OHwX8R3lPe3YjYfcxxb+SGtUsavlXemdRGnQcYfLT04lZromuAiqjRluDtnVA7Xu9uqx8NAok6Cxl2SjqYccx0XY5gT9UgdSv2WISYYhzMzrh68a+LIYBEjo5SYKXhN1WI6QYfM=; X-YMail-OSG: xXhF5e8VM1l0wtALS4F1tGosQaEU213M9QGagoY5kC0RD08gDsXfsfkxlOouYNSkOO0rmhFr1RrPTMiQKM85IFcAfpe6hbd7v3XaNuP_oU0LdFd3.VVtb8eoBt4PYCkDbDLU1hzcYs.gaNRD8pdcfaw- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:07:34 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <284410.36959.qm@web50303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:07:35 +0000 (UTC) --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Uh, I've been using computers for music and art since > the early 90s > and I have no idea what you're talking about. I think that if, in that amount of time, you've never been caught between incompatible software versions (and not just the OS) you are a lucky man. But it in no way invalidates my point. Software is cool and I can't imagine my life without it. I have a ton of it, and have spent a lot of money on it. But money spent on software is always an expense, never an investment. And I feel that your point about hardware being orphaned lacks substance. If I've already got a Steinberger, do I really care if the company stops making them? The only issue is the avilability of spare parts. With a lot of hardware, that's not even an issue. With others, it is. But I've still got a Roland GR-300 up and running. At 20+ years old, it's kicking ass. Any software I was using 20+ years ago is long in the trashbin. And if I still had it lying around, I doubt that I could even find a system it would run on. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 18:20:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4894D3BEC9; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:20:18 -0500 Subject: RE: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Thread-Topic: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Thread-Index: AckIbRddeOXnQlkiTdCG3wIkPwJufgAA6tkw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6D08@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <1Lj7eC.A.h2D.nrZtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:20:23 +0000 (UTC) > I suspect you'd get more for any one of those pieces than you would > for any PC-based recording software or plug-ins from the same era... True. But I don't find the difference between say an Atari sequencer whose value went from $400 to $0 and an effects box that went from $400 to $25 very interesting as I plan my future purchases. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 18:27:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07A0B3BED3; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=hCuOfP0g+wmNmUc6UFHFjCOijahlIIG9sVmqeHB6fR0=; b=W+ohN33teC5iJivU8PrmVYJUFUsshDMy2qb8byJubwwOh4JBUpUMc4J2J8OH5kFzUR JhbBw4prZz6TuT7RDt6y5OCFQX/X5EEENmT19U+1M3HD+79D01yUQIKEVU49Dz97z5bj aHrIZ9e3IpTJcKK/auZLF3cejAs52bxV6T8PQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=kd0Uo1YnMrXg8+HSqL6kDSCBzpMpS0/hSrIkdl/UQo0eG6zw1pyT60zdKSfhcOzrOB DIsq/AvGfwQykYcbYLTl4qCYggUEq/6coLIWIKMl+mPb9E1ICBF2LcFEXfZSJqlDYXah dWd4Zv2HL+06gH4IrEs3gmU0ae5ubV9bqgllY= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:27:48 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6D08@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22061_10189185.1219861668486" References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6D08@barq.sailpoint.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:27:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_22061_10189185.1219861668486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well, it certainly helps to always buy used and never buy junk. But even used computer hardware soon depreciates to nothing, whereas $25 is still $25. Plus, all it takes is one hipster doof using your old piece of hardware and suddenly they're viable again. That's not going to happen with the Atari sequencer. Ever. I believe I have three all-in-one multieffectors that people have given me for free over the years (Roland GP-100, Digitech GSP-21, that sort of thing). No-one ever gives me analog pedals for free... All of this is of more relevance if you're the sort of person who goes through a lot of gear. There are plenty of people who play a guitar through an amp and a few pedals (at most) for decades. TH On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > I suspect you'd get more for any one of those pieces than you would > > for any PC-based recording software or plug-ins from the same era... > > True. But I don't find the difference between say an Atari > sequencer whose value went from $400 to $0 and an effects > box that went from $400 to $25 very interesting as I plan > my future purchases. > > Jeff > > ------=_Part_22061_10189185.1219861668486 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Well, it certainly helps to always buy used and never buy junk.  But even used computer hardware soon depreciates to nothing, whereas $25 is still $25.  Plus, all it takes is one hipster doof using your old piece of hardware and suddenly they're viable again.  That's not going to happen with the Atari sequencer.  Ever.

    I believe I have three all-in-one multieffectors that people have given me for free over the years (Roland GP-100, Digitech GSP-21, that sort of thing).  No-one ever gives me analog pedals for free...

    All of this is of more relevance if you're the sort of person who goes through a lot of gear.  There are plenty of people who play a guitar through an amp and a few pedals (at most) for decades.

    TH

    On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:

    > I suspect you'd get more for any one of those pieces than you would
    > for any PC-based recording software or plug-ins from the same era...

    True.  But I don't find the difference between say an Atari
    sequencer whose value went from $400 to $0 and an effects
    box that went from $400 to $25 very interesting as I plan
    my future purchases.

    Jeff


    ------=_Part_22061_10189185.1219861668486-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 18:31:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A79133BEDB; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-17-1036546836 Message-Id: <8DDC4024-3535-492D-B710-A9ED1ABE73C0@zerocrossing.net> From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:31:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:31:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-17-1036546836 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Why is it always about that? This argument is like when the jeweler tells you the diamond ring is an "investment." Is it really? Are you planning on selling it? If it's so good why would you sell it? I've got a beautiful old guitar that I love. Maybe it has a lot of value these days if I were to sell it, but I won't so I'll never know. I also have a great sounding amp that uses amp modeling software. It's got a lamp and clock on it now. Makes a nice end table. I'd sell it but I doubt I'd get enough to replace it as a cool looking end table. So there's that. Also, I find the progression of technology to be interesting and fun. It costs money, just as it would if my hobby was golf. How much have you spent on real gear in the last 10 years Travis? Also, yeah, maybe my Amplitube won't be worth anything in the open market 10 years from now but I got a truck full of amp and effect sims with it and it was only the cost of one crappy real amp. On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > I suspect you'd get more for any one of those pieces than you would > for any PC-based recording software or plug-ins from the same era... > > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Jeff Larson > wrote: > > > > > Musical hardware (actual amps, guitars and effects) hold their value > > better than almost anything else in your house. > > This may be true for amps and guitars, but less so for effects. Oh, > maybe some classic analog devices but most digital devices are > obsolete after a few years. I literally have a storage shed full of > musical hardware I've bought over the past 20 years that I can barely > give away. Anyone want to buy a Digitech DSP-128? A Korg SDD-1000? > A Lexicon JamMan with jittery rotary encoders? > > --Apple-Mail-17-1036546836 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why is it always about that? =A0This argument is like when = the=A0jeweler=A0tells you the diamond ring is an "investment." =A0Is it = really? =A0Are you planning on selling it? =A0If it's so good why would = you sell it? =A0I've got a beautiful old guitar that I love. =A0Maybe it = has a lot of value these days if I were to sell it, but I won't so I'll = never know.

    I also have a great sounding amp that = uses amp modeling software. =A0It's got a lamp and clock on it now. = =A0Makes a nice end table. I'd sell it but I doubt I'd get enough to = replace it as a cool looking end table. =A0So there's = that.

    Also, I find the progression of technology = to be interesting and fun. =A0It costs money, just as it would if my = hobby was golf. =A0How much have you spent on real gear in the last 10 = years Travis?

    Also, yeah, maybe my Amplitube = won't be worth anything in the open market 10 years from now but I got a = truck full of amp and effect sims with it and it was only the cost of = one crappy real amp.

    On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:48 AM, = Travis Hartnett wrote:

    I suspect you'd get more for any one of those pieces than = you would for any PC-based recording software or plug-ins from the same = era...


    On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at = 10:39 AM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:



    > Musical hardware (actual = amps, guitars and effects) hold their value
    > better than almost = anything else in your house.

    This may be true for amps = and guitars, but less so for effects. =A0Oh,
    maybe some classic = analog devices but most digital devices are
    obsolete after a few = years. =A0I literally have a storage shed full of
    musical hardware = I've bought over the past 20 years that I can barely
    give away. = =A0Anyone want to buy a Digitech DSP-128? =A0A Korg SDD-1000?
    A = Lexicon JamMan with jittery rotary encoders?
    =


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Hey! thts me. finally something i understand in this contest. s From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 19:03:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC0A53BEDA; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=sri2XziwdOfOkZ1exNaMguuRRGyxex7DZ8CqrI8A51k=; b=pjH4cKDRpH9jZMxvJn3lALcICV3k7mqHJ7TrcpzzbytwtcHxC3vezfbFT5Jc3AhRm0 MKu1XJw6udr1ySH/UEJVRpDuysKuQpd5TXPNOrp3p4M01oRbhTwCDyCD7RWcjWvgbeJs lS4VRMr01D09/S/qR8s0fqvVGsIE9pYJ6kiyY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=mxXzNFF02KcZrqZwmin3MPCrBH3ou+HyElhQgp1dV1jA2rOcOVM3xF1FM5E8I4nu85 XaaPogGK0F+FYoUy2pWqrf0Ynr+Cm2yn1LyEHyQqotlT8s3UukCV22EU0aDEOHutbaeI eUZ6b8g8cr/u9l8/FPRe8Zk8jJ2RbyNK763Zg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:03:01 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify In-Reply-To: <8DDC4024-3535-492D-B710-A9ED1ABE73C0@zerocrossing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_158_2467103.1219863781393" References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> <8DDC4024-3535-492D-B710-A9ED1ABE73C0@zerocrossing.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:03:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_158_2467103.1219863781393 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It's not always *all* about resale value, but the economic factor can't be ignored, particularly when the conversation is occurring among a lot of folks who change their signal path a lot. One of the arguments put forth by the computer-based crowd is that it's less expensive compared to dedicated hardware. Sometimes its not so easy to make that distinction. Amp modeling software still needs some form of amplification for public performance--does one factor that into the cost or hassle of "going software"? If the venues you play in always provide a great PA, then there's been all sorts of dedicated hardware boxes for tone shaping which cost less than a Powerbook, and so on. While it's possible to do a lot "in the box", somehow mixers, MIDI pedals and such keep on showing up in "laptop" setups. How much have I spent on real gear in the last decade? Tens of thousands of dollars. How much has all that depreciated? Difficult to say, there's so much of it, but non-digital stuff holds its value very well, even appreciating. Heck, even the rack of Digitech Time Machines I used to use appears to be worth more than I paid for them, without getting into inflation. Plus I got to make heavy use of them for years, and they still work as well as the day I bought them. On the other hand, I have trouble booting my Powerbooks from 5-10 years ago. The batteries have died, the onboard PRAM batteries are dead, etc. They are pretty much paperweights. All my amps, guitars and effects boxes still work. TH On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Why is it always about that? This argument is like when the jeweler tells > you the diamond ring is an "investment." Is it really? Are you planning on > selling it? If it's so good why would you sell it? I've got a beautiful > old guitar that I love. Maybe it has a lot of value these days if I were to > sell it, but I won't so I'll never know. > I also have a great sounding amp that uses amp modeling software. It's got > a lamp and clock on it now. Makes a nice end table. I'd sell it but I doubt > I'd get enough to replace it as a cool looking end table. So there's that. > > Also, I find the progression of technology to be interesting and fun. It > costs money, just as it would if my hobby was golf. How much have you spent > on real gear in the last 10 years Travis? > > ------=_Part_158_2467103.1219863781393 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    It's not always *all* about resale value, but the economic factor can't be ignored, particularly when the conversation is occurring among a lot of folks who change their signal path a lot.  One of the arguments put forth by the computer-based crowd is that it's less expensive compared to dedicated hardware.  Sometimes its not so easy to make that distinction.  Amp modeling software still needs some form of amplification for public performance--does one factor that into the cost or hassle of "going software"?  If the venues you play in always provide a great PA, then there's been all sorts of dedicated hardware boxes for tone shaping which cost less than a Powerbook, and so on.  While it's possible to do a lot "in the box", somehow mixers, MIDI pedals and such keep on showing up in "laptop" setups.

    How much have I spent on real gear in the last decade?  Tens of thousands of dollars.  How much has all that depreciated?  Difficult to say, there's so much of it, but non-digital stuff holds its value very well, even appreciating.  Heck, even the rack of Digitech Time Machines I used to use appears to be worth more than I paid for them, without getting into inflation.  Plus I got to make heavy use of them for years, and they still work as well as the day I bought them.  On the other hand, I have trouble booting my Powerbooks from 5-10 years ago.  The batteries have died, the onboard PRAM batteries are dead, etc.  They are pretty much paperweights.  All my amps, guitars and effects boxes still work.

    TH

    On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote:
    Why is it always about that?  This argument is like when the jeweler tells you the diamond ring is an "investment."  Is it really?  Are you planning on selling it?  If it's so good why would you sell it?  I've got a beautiful old guitar that I love.  Maybe it has a lot of value these days if I were to sell it, but I won't so I'll never know.

    I also have a great sounding amp that uses amp modeling software.  It's got a lamp and clock on it now.  Makes a nice end table. I'd sell it but I doubt I'd get enough to replace it as a cool looking end table.  So there's that.

    Also, I find the progression of technology to be interesting and fun.  It costs money, just as it would if my hobby was golf.  How much have you spent on real gear in the last 10 years Travis?


    ------=_Part_158_2467103.1219863781393-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 19:03:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C64C3BEDE; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 67658049/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.167.68 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.167.68 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah0BAGJBtUhPTqdE/2dsb2JhbAAIsw0IhyljAwd7gz8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,280,1217804400"; d="scan'208";a="67658049" Message-ID: <48B5A53A.3040004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:04:26 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: reply to OT References: <001401c9083d$81e5ad30$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <001401c9083d$81e5ad30$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:03:43 +0000 (UTC) It means that they have their email address in the field within their email software for the account that they use for LD. If they were to visit that entry in their email software and delete it then all would be well. Unfortunately it seems this is now a default behaviour for some email software, where previously the default was always to leave the field blank. Hence, anyone who has this problem is unlikely to know about it. (happened to me, but I noticed the LD replies coming directly from the correspondent, rather than through LD). andt butler Jeff Duke wrote: > Could someone refresh me on why when I reply to some messages it puts > the senders address and not the LD email addy in the to box. It was > brought up before I just can't remember....seems like its on the senders > end. > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 19:23:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C48F3BEE0; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <48B4864D.4000607@mhorse.com> <7FEBC20FC1974A12978D86CFAF4E7767@americas.hpqcorp.net> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> <8DDC4024-3535-492D-B710-A9ED1ABE73C0@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-18-1039623239 Message-Id: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:23:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:22:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-18-1039623239 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Well, I'm done with this little chunk of futility. No matter what's said you bring it back to "worth." yet I don't spend nearly as much money as you do on gear or software. Here's my prediction, if we're both still alive in 10 years we'll both be making music using the tools we like regardless of their physical nature. I do know one thing though. I've had this exact conversation but about tape vs digital recording back in the early 80s and I called that one too. I'm officially saying that in 10 years there still won't be flying cars and almost all musicians will turn to software for electronic instruments and effects. MARKAC HAS SPOKEN! ;) On Aug 27, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > It's not always *all* about resale value, but the economic factor > can't be ignored, particularly when the conversation is occurring > among a lot of folks who change their signal path a lot. One of > the arguments put forth by the computer-based crowd is that it's > less expensive compared to dedicated hardware. Sometimes its not > so easy to make that distinction. Amp modeling software still > needs some form of amplification for public performance--does one > factor that into the cost or hassle of "going software"? If the > venues you play in always provide a great PA, then there's been all > sorts of dedicated hardware boxes for tone shaping which cost less > than a Powerbook, and so on. While it's possible to do a lot "in > the box", somehow mixers, MIDI pedals and such keep on showing up > in "laptop" setups. > > How much have I spent on real gear in the last decade? Tens of > thousands of dollars. How much has all that depreciated? > Difficult to say, there's so much of it, but non-digital stuff > holds its value very well, even appreciating. Heck, even the rack > of Digitech Time Machines I used to use appears to be worth more > than I paid for them, without getting into inflation. Plus I got > to make heavy use of them for years, and they still work as well as > the day I bought them. On the other hand, I have trouble booting > my Powerbooks from 5-10 years ago. The batteries have died, the > onboard PRAM batteries are dead, etc. They are pretty much > paperweights. All my amps, guitars and effects boxes still work. > > TH > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: > Why is it always about that? This argument is like when the > jeweler tells you the diamond ring is an "investment." Is it > really? Are you planning on selling it? If it's so good why would > you sell it? I've got a beautiful old guitar that I love. Maybe > it has a lot of value these days if I were to sell it, but I won't > so I'll never know. > > I also have a great sounding amp that uses amp modeling software. > It's got a lamp and clock on it now. Makes a nice end table. I'd > sell it but I doubt I'd get enough to replace it as a cool looking > end table. So there's that. > > Also, I find the progression of technology to be interesting and > fun. It costs money, just as it would if my hobby was golf. How > much have you spent on real gear in the last 10 years Travis? > > --Apple-Mail-18-1039623239 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
    Well, I'm done with this little chunk of futility. =A0No matter = what's said you bring it back to "worth." yet I don't spend nearly as = much money as you do on gear or software. =A0Here's my prediction, if = we're both still alive in 10 years we'll both be making music using the = tools we like regardless of their physical = nature.

    I do know one thing though. =A0I've had = this exact conversation but about tape vs digital recording back in the = early 80s and I called that one too.=A0

    I'm = officially saying that in 10 years there still won't be flying cars and = almost all musicians will turn to software for electronic instruments = and effects. =A0MARKAC HAS SPOKEN! = ;)


    On Aug 27, 2008, at 12:03 PM, = Travis Hartnett wrote:

    It's not always *all* about resale value, but the economic = factor can't be ignored, particularly when the conversation is occurring = among a lot of folks who change their signal path a lot.=A0 One of the = arguments put forth by the computer-based crowd is that it's less = expensive compared to dedicated hardware.=A0 Sometimes its not so easy = to make that distinction.=A0 Amp modeling software still needs some form = of amplification for public performance--does one factor that into the = cost or hassle of "going software"?=A0 If the venues you play in always = provide a great PA, then there's been all sorts of dedicated hardware = boxes for tone shaping which cost less than a Powerbook, and so on.=A0 = While it's possible to do a lot "in the box", somehow mixers, MIDI = pedals and such keep on showing up in "laptop" setups.

    How much = have I spent on real gear in the last decade?=A0 Tens of thousands of = dollars.=A0 How much has all that depreciated?=A0 Difficult to say, = there's so much of it, but non-digital stuff holds its value very well, = even appreciating.=A0 Heck, even the rack of Digitech Time Machines I = used to use appears to be worth more than I paid for them, without = getting into inflation.=A0 Plus I got to make heavy use of them for = years, and they still work as well as the day I bought them.=A0 On the = other hand, I have trouble booting my Powerbooks from 5-10 years ago.=A0 = The batteries have died, the onboard PRAM batteries are dead, etc.=A0 = They are pretty much paperweights.=A0 All my amps, guitars and effects = boxes still work.

    TH

    On Wed, = Aug 27, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> = wrote:
    Why is it always about that? =A0This argument is = like when the=A0jeweler=A0tells you the diamond ring is an "investment." = =A0Is it really? =A0Are you planning on selling it? =A0If it's so good = why would you sell it? =A0I've got a beautiful old guitar that I love. = =A0Maybe it has a lot of value these days if I were to sell it, but I = won't so I'll never know.

    I also have a great = sounding amp that uses amp modeling software. =A0It's got a lamp and = clock on it now. =A0Makes a nice end table. I'd sell it but I doubt I'd = get enough to replace it as a cool looking end table. =A0So there's = that.

    Also, I find the progression of technology = to be interesting and fun. =A0It costs money, just as it would if my = hobby was golf. =A0How much have you spent on real gear in the last 10 = years Travis?

    =


    = --Apple-Mail-18-1039623239-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 19:32:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4BC23BEE8; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #5829618 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/QYxw4vszQ17W2nTa+wD0eWCHMeCbumxhn7rhkOX APGKxPSEeWJXsI Message-ID: <002001c9087d$b2cc08a0$87a2fe91@parsick> From: "Wavecomputer360" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Review_of_Loopers=B4_Delight_Vol._3?= Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:34:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01C9085A.728D46F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71,0.6 Resent-Message-ID: <4exLR.A.INH.GvatIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:32:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C9085A.728D46F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It=B4s a little late but then again, here=B4s a very enjoyable review of = the LD Vol. 3 CD. I felt free to submit it for review when = feindesland.de asked for a bi-monthly special about my own music. = Here=B4s the link: http://www.feindesland.de/plattenkritiken/VA/_1935_VA_LoopersDelightCompi= lationVolume3_2008.html Of course the review was written in German. Enjoy, Stephen. ____________________________________________________________ "Pay your respects to the vultures, for they are your future." (Jhonn = Balance / Coil) Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, reissued = with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info please = check www.parsick.com For legal downloads please check: http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=3D296&title=3DStephen+Parsi= ck ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C9085A.728D46F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C9085A.728D46F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 19:46:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EF4D3BEDD; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "sfmissionman@yahoo.com" , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:46:33 -0500 Subject: RE: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Thread-Topic: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Thread-Index: AckIb8o5HyEwpjmBT4iQG7VkpcaNIQAA8HPA Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6D43@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <284410.36959.qm@web50303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <284410.36959.qm@web50303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:46:36 +0000 (UTC) > But money spent on software is always an expense, never an investment. That's true if we're only thinking about buying a commodity that can be sold on eBay in a few years. The software business is different than the hardware business primarily because it is easy to create and evolve software over time. A piece of software is almost always valueless after five years because it has been replaced with something the market thinks is better. No one pines for that old copy of Word Perfect or Cakewalk because they suck compared to what is available now. What you have "invested" in by buying software is keeping the developers interested enough to make new things that better meet your needs. If we all stop buying software just because we can't sell it on eBay five years from now, what will happen is that developers will stop making things and that copy of Sonar 7 will be actually be worth something in 5 years because nothing came along to replace it. The choice is yours. If you're happy with what you bought and you want it to have value in the future then stop buying new things. I think it is also helpful to make a distinction between software that is "feature focused" and software that is "algorithm focused". Feature focused software includes things like DAWs, delay plugins, and loopers. There really isn't a lot of super-secret intellectual property in them. Lots of people can make these if they have the time and desire. The game here is to pile features on as fast as possible to stay ahead of the competition. Old versions become worthless very quickly because everyone either upgrades or switches brands. Algorithm focused software includes things like Melodyne, amp modelers, pitch shifters and synths. These contain some very complicated mathematica= l algorithms that fewer people understand how to design. There are different approaches that result in qualitative differences between products that make people prefer one to another beyond just their feature set. These evolve more slowly and keep their value longer. If hypothetically someone absolutely nails an amp model, then it will continue to have value until someone does it better. But in the current state of development, someone usually does do it better in a few years. Eventually maybe we'll reach a state where it is pointless to go on, innovation will stop and values will stabilize. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 19:48:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C68B3BEE0; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:48:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6CF7@barq.sailpoint.com> Thread-Index: AckH8ikc6xpmT5QsTMeE1dsDQIz65QAd1ldAAAT7ALA= Message-Id: <20080827194811.380B93BEDB@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:48:11 +0000 (UTC) But have you tried the new Ditch-itech Yardware? Digital leaf blowers suck even more than hardware versions. dave Jeff And I need a new leaf blower. 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    From A Friend To a Friend From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 20:58:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC7B03BEBA; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=pJnP1h8VFnhbnQzY/VTihpAt3mtfg184UFChGq5JLgoZ0j/O6O9ddszgCfHIp2NmHi5wyLsbw3pQgR+U7elyyPUTdaywG74Cf00XCadvChjw9O8JEYODDRwi2Wh8xwg/e9nPPoiW0l0x7Hzj9G9zzafl1M8334E4nPVk+/KCdLg=; X-YMail-OSG: Kp2xemAVM1l4HMX.BY6WYHYZFceClvsZn95G2PCwe7rCT4em3EFIGoJ11UHgoxItYTG4MuhjvTz2RZ3wsuwShdhzx6Fkh7AHsvnpOj9fAKIgeZCuXRYxCF3nK2.93Rk5dNqh7PpLTKQJz5cV5BnKzFc- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:58:16 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: RE: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , Jeff Larson In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6D43@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <84490.13738.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, I'm afraid that you and others are assuming I am arguing against software in general. I'm not. What I am doing is pointing out the relative merits of each. There is definitely software that I will buy, and continue to upgrade. But for some things, I prefer hardware. For looping, I really want to use a laptop. But that comes with its own set of issues that must be dealt with. BTW, could you possibly approve my membership in the Mobius list? I would be happy to paypal you some money if I actually use the software beyond my initial evaluation. :) -George --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Jeff Larson wrote: > > But money spent on software is always an expense, never > an investment. > > That's true if we're only thinking about buying a > commodity that can > be sold on eBay in a few years. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 21:49:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CED413BEA4; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "sfmissionman@yahoo.com" , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:49:37 -0500 Subject: RE: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Thread-Topic: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Thread-Index: AckIh6H6DDysNl21TZ2O1Vsft1wStAABcAuQ Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6DB3@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6D43@barq.sailpoint.com> <84490.13738.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <84490.13738.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:49:39 +0000 (UTC) > From: George Ludwig [mailto:sfmissionman@yahoo.com] > > I'm afraid that you and others are assuming I am arguing against > software in general. I'm not. Understood. Thinking more about this, a fairly good analogy is to think of buying software like subscribing to an expensive cable channel. You can't legally sell used software even if it did retain some value in the market. You don't actually own anything, just a "license to use". > BTW, could you possibly approve my membership in the Mobius list? Approved. > I would be happy to paypal you some money if I actually use the > software beyond my initial evaluation. Another really odd thing about software is that some developers don't ask for any money. I've never understood why that is... Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Aug 27 22:00:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 847353BEB6; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=XwufGtiD4Qz4FU+6ROEvMQY8RUnd8yqOT/qZI4c8AKhwPSz1T/J1BJWfx/kT2EmOzuh0XT9kXjSaic0XUmCeENPMTZWovS120inwqtW9UruPXdt9RzhPfbjo14pF42ScK0OB8Xl/S0Zd/fa9OBMrRDwV+rV6hnQt7h81cYTJAls=; X-YMail-OSG: pigkY1QVM1nemm7JSEtDivutjdsWx4jQpM3DeMqsmGnQf_9baXXel4tmEjNGFPPCOPs01YC3w3MsmZL3txLDPGLWzQpk3qHCutQ_MtEXEwkG_PlUbaIktBUHfGytLYSuRE9LaAGe_Go4ZHL6iRGYPqg- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:00:21 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: RE: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , Jeff Larson In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144B8F9A6DB3@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <765023.2746.qm@web50311.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7TYYlC.A.41F.35ctIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:00:23 +0000 (UTC) --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Jeff Larson wrote: > > I would be happy to paypal you some money if I > actually use the > > software beyond my initial evaluation. > > Another really odd thing about software is that some > developers > don't ask for any money. I've never understood why > that is... > > Jeff Because then they might feel obligated to ask "how high?" when their users say "jump!"? ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 00:19:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38D953BEA6; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6709EB89C78E403795F6B241FD0498C7@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <001401c9083d$81e5ad30$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: reply to Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:55:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_048B_01C9081A.35B0F050" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:19:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_048B_01C9081A.35B0F050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That used to happen to me and a few others. In your email account = options, I think you have to leave the reply to field blank. If you hard = code that field with your email address, then when people reply, it will = go only to you. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 Could someone refresh me on why when I reply to some messages it puts = the senders address and not the LD email addy in the to box. It was = brought up before I just can't remember....seems like its on the senders = end. Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_048B_01C9081A.35B0F050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    That used to happen to me and a few = others. In your=20 email account options, I think you have to leave the reply to field = blank. If=20 you hard code that field with your email address, then when people = reply, it=20 will go only to you.
     
    Kris
     
    ----- Original Message -----

    Could someone refresh me on why = when I reply=20 to some messages it puts the senders address and not the LD email addy = in the=20 to box. It was brought up before I just can't remember....seems like = its on=20 the senders end.
     
    Jeff
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To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <765023.2746.qm@web50311.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <648586.14874.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:27:57 +0000 (UTC) I'm thinking about showing up. Zoe, you sure'y aren't playing non-stop 11-2. Are you doing sets on the hour? I was thinking that noon would be a reasonable time to show up. Anyone interested feel free to email me off-list. -George From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 05:38:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32B443BEAF; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=byQR5sJ28nQA:10 a=dtF4lEUSfiUA:10 a=U_NgUvK0stoXk2h82ZoA:9 a=576Z3fP5jqP2yqy8zjAUHRP4s-AA:4 a=PKjY-mI1yN0A:10 In-Reply-To: <648586.14874.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <648586.14874.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: any bay area loopers want to meet up at SFO this Friday for Zoe's gig? Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:38:18 -0700 To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:38:21 +0000 (UTC) i am playing non-stop! i get a little break around 12:30 when the organizer comes to watch my stuff for 15 minutes and i can nip off to grab some lunch. thank you, it would be lovely to have an audience. there are comfy seats nearby, ebisu sushi and the exhibit of danish furniture is quite good! i'll be inspired to do more eno-esque airport soundscapes. celloly, zoe On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:27 PM, George Ludwig wrote: > I'm thinking about showing up. Zoe, you sure'y aren't playing non- > stop 11-2. Are you doing sets on the hour? I was thinking that noon > would be a reasonable time to show up. > > Anyone interested feel free to email me off-list. > > -George > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 05:43:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCFD23BEBA; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:43:25 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c908d1$00690740$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C90896.540A2F40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckI0P0oHqyMHwskQaG0yi1wLh/YSw== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:43:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C90896.540A2F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So Erdem, Was this discussion helpful ?? :-) My intent was not to start a tube VS modeling caged death match, and god knows many of you out there find modeling satisfying enough to meet your needs, and more power to you. I was trying to help Erdem pair down without re-inventing his wheel or sacrificing the sound he is accustomed to. If you have heard Erdem's work you would know that he places a premium on sound. Until I hear otherwise, I am going to stick with tube gear if possible, because it sounds better to my ears and feels more responsive to my hands. What you might be interested to know Rainer is that demand for vacuum tubes has been steadily increasing worldwide in the last twenty years, not just for guitar amps, but for high end stereo equipment as well, and studio gear like pre-amps and compressors, not tube based effects boxes. The reason is the sound. Guys like Tesla and Edison where on to something. Yours fondly, sipping tea in the retirement home, Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C90896.540A2F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    So Erdem, Was this discussion helpful ?? = J

     My intent was not to start a tube VS modeling = caged death match,  and god knows many of you out there find modeling = satisfying enough to meet your needs, and more power to you. I was trying to help = Erdem pair down without re-inventing his wheel or sacrificing the sound he is = accustomed to. If you have heard Erdem’s  work you would know that he = places a premium on sound.  Until I hear otherwise, I am going to stick with = tube gear if possible,  because it sounds better to my ears and feels = more responsive to my hands. What you might be interested to know Rainer is = that demand for vacuum tubes has been steadily increasing worldwide in the = last twenty years, not just for guitar amps, but for high end stereo = equipment as well, and  studio gear like pre-amps and compressors, not tube = based effects boxes. The reason is the sound.  Guys like Tesla and Edison = where on to something.

    Yours fondly,

     sipping tea in the retirement = home,

     Bill

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    --0-110783111-1219910695=:85500-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 08:30:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA0623BE97; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: , Subject: RE: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:30:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <386943.98843.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AckH/s9uQAv5h240SUiTzBoZ9EXpqAA5/KNQ Message-Id: <20080828083029.8BC6F3BE92@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3zw-JD.A.WQD.lImtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:30:29 +0000 (UTC) My 505 has a HUGE neck thickness, but it helps the tone a lot. It's been refretted three or four times over the years, but the finish on it is so tough that it's just now giving way to wear on the fingerboard, something that happens much earlier on Fenders. It's a very bright-toned Strat (ash body and maple neck), and when recording in the studio, I've often gone to it in place of my Fenders, Gibsons and Epiphones (along with cheap 60s Japanese oddities) to get just the right tone. I tried the other Roland guitars, and found them all undesirable. I've only seen one or two other 505s and didn't get to play them, so I don't know if mine is an anomaly. I think Ibanez may have been the builder of these. At some point, when I resolve a few more bulk issues in my solo/looping rig, I hope to bring the 300 back in. Now that I feed the EDP with a Mackie VLZ 1402, it would be easy to fit it in. In the 1980s I used to run the 505/300 through a Roland Chorus Echo into the amp; it created some gorgeous tones. However, I think my snake cable is a bit shaky--want to sell one of yours? dave Dave, > George, you have the old blue box 300, and the Fender copy > 505? I do as > well, bought them new in 1979 or 1980. I haven't used > the 300 recently, but > I still play the 505 at my solo gigs. It is a better > guitar than my 1956 > Fender Strat was. I used to use the synth set an octave > down as the bassist > in my pre-looper one man band. Having the individual > switches to choose > which strings went through the synth was great. Yup, it's the old blue box. I've been lucky enough to score two GR-300s (as well as a GR-700), one on european voltage, the other on US. I'm a little surprised you were so happy with the G-505. Myself, I found the neck unplayable due to a number of issues, and eventually had a local luthier (Dan Ransom) carve a custom neck. For a couple of years I was on the hunt for a G-303/G808, but I've since concluded that, at 6'4", my overall size does not jibe well with shorter scale lenths. So I'm sticking with the G-505. -George From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 09:28:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A94523BE9E; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=nIQmnVcN5KW8d30H9aAlf+9ImVsbM2elF0x37eMggoORYivLbv3+FR3bfE47xcN8XI5ChFkTWHJN+qzzrRBxARpOu68KQc4KbWXcEXlt9j3XumzcCAX0fqEidiUfamfT5aPUI+CZ2WyUNS1ZhRJTEB5O6jFC/bIlLnDh8MikunE=; X-YMail-OSG: 5noRcnUVM1mtsCHM3KOM8ndJdY5pl0nniuV4YH.zoBPQBQntL8bGgeiNHILn8lebOJVHEY6o6PmDxNZ5lMk9YAnZ03spGAHTE0YzYOtek7q7IeLmUKEHWYe3IOemhqI- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:M13 has arrived To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <329472.51171.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Hey buddy! The eventide has a great sound,thats the one i used at the Cologne festival,it still has some issues though like when you change patches while using the expression pedal the transition is not very smooth and sometimes it can even have loud jumps that could blow your speakers depending how youve programmed certain parameters,but this should not happen ive reported this to eventide so i hope they implement some sort of limiter in their new o.s. update.However the sound is fantastic! However There is no post effect to work with its looper,you either use their delays or their looper. Ill be posting the live performance soon so you can see it in action.Thats the first time i used it! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: Re:M13 has arrived > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 6:30 AM > > Luis wrote: > > did you order it or are you going to? > > Hey Luis, how are you? :) I'm currently working on a > new live setup and I'm looking for a FX unit to use as a > pre or post-looper in combination with the LP1. Candidates > are the Eventide TF, M13 and Kaosspad 3. 3 totally different > fx processors, so I need to figure out which one meets my > req's. > > So far, I have played an hour with the KP3 but I > haven't heard the Eventide and M13 yet. I think the M13 > offers good value for the money but it might be a little big > and heavy...or not? I already have a FC-300 surf board so > it's already crowded on stage ;) > > Btw: Do you like the Eventide delay? I've heard from > guitarists it's sound is fantastic. And does it have a > good analog delay? > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 09:49:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51B413BE94; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=6XqTVgIEex3JWfCHOtIUKYeWVTLu44vSjiGvTqhFkT++2D2q8FGZjiwB2++bV+9+lyThHFe2vs59ll7c/9wwmOjicjxsmsnz09xcvUh9QiKdFfZzHtf1oljrI/SlJHhr2n7Zyf6X+x/V++zf/fpZw4WARXqSNcfFnKBhYsuPN8k=; X-YMail-OSG: 2g7Mjt0VM1nosolrIHsVPsViVH5ZtUsp7joJXoKafbYk7qxHUkqVt1CDRZNqbaMjwD6UFuhxLhTyyrCKFAuo4Qgsu67_gpE_zXhACSFSIgqQ14FqtUrLOuOQlhASJ2NQ_sGpbdU8aJ3KV5cwrRKHjRyO X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:49:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <003001c9083b$8bfac550$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <183477.68417.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:49:10 +0000 (UTC) i am not a fan of Clapton,although i loved his playing with cream here is another great demo of inmortal effects http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=FOc4etSTOWk&feature=related www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Jeff Duke wrote: > From: Jeff Duke > Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 4:53 AM > Thanks for that Louis! I remember seeing on tv about 40 > years ago. Man am i > old.....lol > > the ol' hippi, > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L.A. Angulo" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:49 PM > Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify > > > > and this guitar fx will always survive: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq6r23-le5o > > > > i love how gently he stumps on his pedal:-D > > Luis > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Daryl Shawn > wrote: > > > >> From: Daryl Shawn > >> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:40 PM > >> Did you mean...take it to the retirement > home...NOW? Cuz > >> that's kinda, > >> like, ouch. > >> > >> Or did you mean that, at the point when we're > ready for > >> the retirement > >> home, the non-laptoppers will still be dragging > the amps > >> and stompboxes > >> around? Cuz that's like, no big deal. Great > inheritance > >> for the kiddies. > >> > >> Not that compact isn't desirable and > necessary, but I > >> can tell you that > >> in 20 years, none of the computer hardware or > software > >> you're using now > >> will be supported and you'll have spent > thousands > >> upgrading every five > >> years, whilst a 2008 Matchless amp will still be > going > >> strong and worth > >> five times what it sold for originally... :-D ... > >> > >> not even remotely involved, > >> > >> Daryl Shawn > >> www.swanwelder.com > >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> > >> > And, really, there's nothing more to say. > Frankly, > >> I'm getting tired of all > >> > that "I can feel the difference" > talk. > >> Either you're able to do it with a > >> > more compact setup, or you should embrace the > thought > >> that you better take > >> > yourself and your tube amp and stompbox setup > to the > >> retirement home. > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1636 - > Release Date: 8/26/2008 > > 7:09 PM > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 10:04:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C47663BEA2; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=jecTMZHf7wW0DWj2iUT3o/HEG2XD1RaUKTiRGkEZNTacUgBCGqLWLrkeY+iJ63TQYIqgVnVjDcoHj5vFrJSrhGqXHt1MNiM3RNplUQjaOnxYuPfxTa+bIVIIRGv1Fh61nMAgzaw3cOam35wI/n6UoYP7ULlttTq4/wEAYbZ4mR8=; X-YMail-OSG: S.Zyi2MVM1lNUyf1mOGGg6oz4T.6cE9zcVeKLm1jgaQ4sshzoaPxvPlCh7txGsj1M2RHiC9sRB5tjxpqTGL3qsT2XYEpPkARibgBilc0ajn5z0AoLBio3.wgeoW_1tQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:04:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48B4CFE7.5070109@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <347802.43235.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7F8NpB.A.jPF.6gntIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:04:42 +0000 (UTC) here is an interesting interview with EVH about tone and stomp box issue,that guy keeps amplifying instead of simplyfying try to convince that guy to use a laptop and he will dump all his amps on ya! but hes also deaf;-D http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=7iLIZLDH1AQ&feature=related Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 8:54 PM > Interesting...I guess I don't know many guitar players > who get tired of > their amps frequently. I bought a '66 Princeton > thirteen years ago and, > even though I'm not playing electric these days, it > lasted me through > three or four bands and I never felt like I needed anything > different in > an amp. Though I do agree with Travis that guitar gear > keeps its value > (and I'm not so convinced that hardware will be in > museums in 30 years), > if your path leads you to maximum flexibility and frequent > change then > the software solution sounds custom-made for you..! > > As for me...hell, I'm still using tape...my electric > guitar needs its > electric amp! > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 10:44:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1D313BE93; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1219920282; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=rOmszGQbid8yRu+f30aLbyV1DXY=; b=WfbtZpaM9jWUXce660G0Nbi9OSrMAw69k5vBWLrGifdF/cd+AUkVkQJYJitL/LnL 7mWBwvi7gNLxU0mY/6sTbuQO51OvmfdJF9do7KW9hyG7GZeRFmw/ARvhhno3P5XJ; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ZsPT4zx_WGAA:10 a=MJomb0qCNQ8A:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=uSQ9UX4PqauHJpVni9MA:9 a=BsknryLW8jDsqYdjhfIA:7 a=WBl2d9zc1VAwAc2JsfMevTEadnkA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=BpqUGxorProA:10 a=oH_WKSxD8ioA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001801c908fb$134df760$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <183477.68417.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify - Now OT Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:44:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:44:42 +0000 (UTC) My first concert was Cream on the Wheels of Fire tour, Deep Purple and the Buddy Miles Express opened. 1968. I was a drummer then so Ginger Baker, Buddy and Ian Paice were it for me! I remember having binoculars for Toad! Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" To: Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:49 AM Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify > i am not a fan of Clapton,although i loved his playing with cream here is > another great demo of inmortal effects > > http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=FOc4etSTOWk&feature=related > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> From: Jeff Duke >> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 4:53 AM >> Thanks for that Louis! I remember seeing on tv about 40 >> years ago. Man am i >> old.....lol >> >> the ol' hippi, >> >> Jeff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "L.A. Angulo" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:49 PM >> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify >> >> >> > and this guitar fx will always survive: >> > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq6r23-le5o >> > >> > i love how gently he stumps on his pedal:-D >> > Luis >> > >> > >> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> > >> > >> > --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Daryl Shawn >> wrote: >> > >> >> From: Daryl Shawn >> >> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:40 PM >> >> Did you mean...take it to the retirement >> home...NOW? Cuz >> >> that's kinda, >> >> like, ouch. >> >> >> >> Or did you mean that, at the point when we're >> ready for >> >> the retirement >> >> home, the non-laptoppers will still be dragging >> the amps >> >> and stompboxes >> >> around? Cuz that's like, no big deal. Great >> inheritance >> >> for the kiddies. >> >> >> >> Not that compact isn't desirable and >> necessary, but I >> >> can tell you that >> >> in 20 years, none of the computer hardware or >> software >> >> you're using now >> >> will be supported and you'll have spent >> thousands >> >> upgrading every five >> >> years, whilst a 2008 Matchless amp will still be >> going >> >> strong and worth >> >> five times what it sold for originally... :-D ... >> >> >> >> not even remotely involved, >> >> >> >> Daryl Shawn >> >> www.swanwelder.com >> >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >> >> >> > And, really, there's nothing more to say. >> Frankly, >> >> I'm getting tired of all >> >> > that "I can feel the difference" >> talk. >> >> Either you're able to do it with a >> >> > more compact setup, or you should embrace the >> thought >> >> that you better take >> >> > yourself and your tube amp and stompbox setup >> to the >> >> retirement home. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1636 - >> Release Date: 8/26/2008 >> > 7:09 PM >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 > 7:06 PM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 10:45:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B75893BE95; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:44:29 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48B6818D.2000204@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:45:46 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. 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Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 11:14:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCFD83BE97; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=km/ffArA6irSLcnevBJ/vICIZ7iMaeXHnvnUN7OB+EVItB0k7kAK4WeUHzL077TdeF0dgFNAWTV4WNTWHyRHPTFiMZ+LFfD13c5FBODp7d0MVGg/ffW68XsNMgVO6SkNoSkjL6zFX+FyOYq9EBKohXSq9rVkjmIW2yE+M5q1BpE=; X-YMail-OSG: b7glnl8VM1lhBgDxaI_6MCICLh.aA_QyrAGsoniwxTXFkuHH5q6Af2E7gIfDHIl4sjxzfcBx5OMPyyFjwpsmGzf1zsQ0MRg2GvG7A6tYqvvlA2ggx1IFb3Yjqo9M9ZCGdAfkZc1U4zQqLwTOnrdGo53rCTBi_q7S3UJCbPISj_g- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:14:05 +0000 (GMT) From: rune fagereng Reply-To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Subject: Is looping an effect, a instrument or something else? To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <364072.64939.qm@web26206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I am to write a little something regarding; instruments - effects - looping= - sampling - digital sound... Does anyone have some writings about looping defining what it is - and are = some pictures or figures showing - or illustrating what looping is - for so= meone who dont know? Best if not in pdf - so I can borrow pictures. Rune F. =0A=0A=0A __________________________________________________= _______=0AAlt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og=0Ano= tisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 11:24:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA8AE3BEA9; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:24:23 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:M13 has arrived MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:24:25 +0000 (UTC) > Luis wrote: > The eventide has a great sound,thats the one i used at the Cologne > festival,it still has some issues though like when you change patches w= hile > using the expression pedal the transition is not very smooth and someti= mes > it can even have loud jumps that could blow your speakers depending how= > youve programmed certain parameters Sounds familiar: I've blown up my speakers when I was tweaking the low-pa= ss filter and resonance on one of my synths ;) Since then, I use a compre= ssor/limiter in my setup; in the beginning on my main mix but since I use= the LP1 it's sits between the pre-looper and the LP1, so instrument -> pre-looper/delay -> comp/lim -> looper -> DI/mixer -> PA This also allows you to loop self-resonating stuff without overdriving th= e inputs of the LP1 plus your input level will be more consistent. You ha= ve to be carefull though with high compression ratio's when using acousti= c instruments like guitar or piano. I use levels of 1:2 for "acoustic" st= uff and 1:4 when using drums and bass sounds. > Ill be posting the live performance soon so you can see it in action. > Thats the first time i used it! Yes, I remember you told me that you used the Eventide for the first time= . The public didn't even notice the problems you were having, your sound = was good :) Btw: how would you describe the difference in character of the M13 delay = and the Eventide? --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 11:26:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A11B43BEA9; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5DCB2A57-0FD1-4807-8267-86E033DEBA8E@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List In-Reply-To: <364072.64939.qm@web26206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: Is looping an effect, a instrument or something else? Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:25:11 -0300 References: <364072.64939.qm@web26206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: <94k8TD.A.F6G.UtotIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:26:12 +0000 (UTC) as I see it, its neither instrument nor effect, its a tool for =20 composition or improvisation of course I tried many times to define it its simpler today, as most people have seen it happening and you can =20 put a link to some video my latest descriptions are on livelooping.org and aurisis.com, you are =20= welcome to grab them! On 28 Aug 2008, at 08:14, rune fagereng wrote: > Hi ! > > I am to write a little something regarding; instruments - effects - =20= > looping - sampling - digital sound... > > Does anyone have some writings about looping defining what it is - =20 > and are some pictures or figures showing - or illustrating what =20 > looping is - for someone who dont know? Best if not in pdf - so I =20 > can borrow pictures. > > Rune F. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 11:58:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AACAA3BE94; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1ZkZ2XnJZSrdsNOgTUPtKd8lfUfuqcoJHu5TCD3gkv6jHLrMwzXRPSwbsojvR0bm+qMcKw0FDmBQkUEoE618ADbYSIIlRp0BllxsrneVgS47rQH22vhJNA5vJKNA6/Vbc+8Qw3Cr8ev1lLPv6qd2a79HKUjXl8wjohHF3FQ1pFY=; X-YMail-OSG: 9vcSdQgVM1ll11jmBxfjFVw0NfTQLaWFsddYn8nLDo3sWcGLnfalXi2Ia8FhRFkTKA88FbHCO_x3RS9OLfeU_Fw1YrEkeyuQJEJ23vcgwoT8ZLlIW_Px99_BxFgq4sOjdPrfRB1CCmAunAMbrI1rcYss X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:58:04 +0000 (GMT) From: rune fagereng Reply-To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Subject: Re: Is looping an effect, a instrument or something else? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5DCB2A57-0FD1-4807-8267-86E033DEBA8E@atarde.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <297582.20286.qm@web26201.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Grob wrote; > as I see it, its neither instrument nor effect, its a tool > for =20 > composition or improvisation > of course I tried many times to define it > its simpler today, as most people have seen it happening > and you can =20 > put a link to some video > my latest descriptions are on livelooping.org and > aurisis.com, you are =20 > welcome to grab them! Hi and thanks ! I will look at your websites - thanks.=20 I had a short vitit at your personly website, and noticed you also are scep= tic about electronic instruments. If thats so - count me in. I will look into how and why you feel so. Hope I do= nt offend anyone.=20 best regarding Rune F Norway > On 28 Aug 2008, at 08:14, rune fagereng wrote: >=20 > > Hi ! > > > > I am to write a little something regarding; > instruments - effects - =20 > > looping - sampling - digital sound... > > > > Does anyone have some writings about looping defining > what it is - =20 > > and are some pictures or figures showing - or > illustrating what =20 > > looping is - for someone who dont know? Best if not in > pdf - so I =20 > > can borrow pictures. > > > > Rune F. > > > > > > =20 > _________________________________________________________ > > Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, > kalender og > > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > >=0A=0A=0A _________________________________________________________= =0AAlt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! 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Mr.Usuman Radebe Phone:+27837288971 Fax:+27865602287 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 14:49:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88D1B3BEA2; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00be01c9091d$2f34f0b0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <000301c908d1$00690740$6601a8c0@williamsteed> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:48:50 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C90936.5455E890" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:49:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C90936.5455E890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, yes the discussion was helpful and intense! :) i have no problem with using laptop. i use and have used nearly every = software ( max, pd, metasynth, soundhack, audiomulch, csound, = supercollider, cubase, protools etc ) on the sound design market. at the = moment i have 3 setups. 1- acoustic guitar and laptop running audiomulch 2- electric gtr and laptop running audiomulch and pd ( have just started = this setup ) 3- and electric guitar and no laptop setup. my no laptop setup has a very specific sound. i use eclipse, fireworx, = mpx100, zvex ringtone, ehx pitch shifters and moog pedals extensively. = all i want to get rid of at the moment is marshall jmp, mxr chorus, = phaser and flanger pedals. ( for travels, in studio it is no problem to = have lots of hardware equipement ) so if i can find a very good = modelling equipment with modulation effects, that would be great. thanks = for your suggestions, will look into all of them. thanks and best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: William Walker=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify So Erdem, Was this discussion helpful ?? J My intent was not to start a tube VS modeling caged death match, and = god knows many of you out there find modeling satisfying enough to meet = your needs, and more power to you. I was trying to help Erdem pair down = without re-inventing his wheel or sacrificing the sound he is accustomed = to. If you have heard Erdem's work you would know that he places a = premium on sound. Until I hear otherwise, I am going to stick with tube = gear if possible, because it sounds better to my ears and feels more = responsive to my hands. What you might be interested to know Rainer is = that demand for vacuum tubes has been steadily increasing worldwide in = the last twenty years, not just for guitar amps, but for high end stereo = equipment as well, and studio gear like pre-amps and compressors, not = tube based effects boxes. The reason is the sound. Guys like Tesla and = Edison where on to something. Yours fondly, sipping tea in the retirement home, Bill ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C90936.5455E890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    hi,
     
    yes the discussion was helpful and intense! :)
     
    i have no problem with using laptop. i use and have used nearly = every=20 software ( max, pd, metasynth, soundhack, audiomulch, csound, = supercollider,=20 cubase, protools etc ) on the sound design market. at the moment i have = 3=20 setups.
     
    1- acoustic guitar and laptop running audiomulch
    2- electric gtr and laptop running audiomulch and pd ( have just = started=20 this setup )
    3- and electric guitar and no laptop setup.
     
    my no laptop setup has a very specific sound. i use eclipse, = fireworx,=20 mpx100, zvex ringtone, ehx pitch shifters and moog pedals extensively. = all i=20 want to get rid of at the moment is marshall jmp, mxr chorus, phaser and = flanger=20 pedals. ( for travels, in studio it is no problem to have lots of = hardware=20 equipement ) so if i can find a very good modelling equipment with=20 modulation effects, that would be great. thanks for your suggestions, = will look=20 into all of them.
     
    thanks and best.
     
    Erdem Helvacioglu
    www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
    = www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
    *=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    "Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
    chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
    www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
    www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 William=20 Walker
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 = 8:43=20 AM
    Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup = - to=20 simplify

    So Erdem, Was this = discussion=20 helpful ?? J

     My intent was not = to start a=20 tube VS modeling caged death match,  and god knows many of you = out there=20 find modeling satisfying enough to meet your needs, and more power to = you. I=20 was trying to help Erdem pair down without re-inventing his wheel or=20 sacrificing the sound he is accustomed to. If you have heard Erdem=92s =  work you would know that he places a premium on sound. =  Until I=20 hear otherwise, I am going to stick with tube gear if possible, =  because=20 it sounds better to my ears and feels more responsive to my hands. = What you=20 might be interested to know Rainer is that demand for vacuum tubes has = been=20 steadily increasing worldwide in the last twenty years, not just for = guitar=20 amps, but for high end stereo equipment as well, and  studio gear = like=20 pre-amps and compressors, not tube based effects boxes. The reason is = the=20 sound.  Guys like Tesla and Edison where on to=20 something.

    Yours=20 fondly,

     sipping tea in the = retirement home,

     Bill

    <= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C90936.5455E890-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 14:53:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 657EC3BEA9; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=l1Y885TwZM/MKUOtH/WNvwfwg4HXDqYNt8EPx4sE0eo=; b=AoxLt2tOblj30e9P+0ZgWuJBNOfXvtax9lIDXIH61iQE/jKzNJzVNpZzthrWyNW4f/ fBG2fCYg1pZt/8vgZKYSNJFkWeXxXBLVpOrMzichVIZbbY/3wjMk1dlcjcD0qpEIw8bt wEmjghrM4AxPMMjd1853P70mSpauQC0zsy4kc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=GFLv1godZgXG0Q6Z+C0uRHsNqzVFAC6KT1RQ+lkB0fnHAIui6mMeme3ocRnem4yFSj wauk+kwJvgn5tiDIcFQqpof1N5mgPkfQp+EgdNLzsPhKQS7E/GBlvZtEvfKoCACqVoOx e5iIuy/mlyLXX9uZx2tP5TdT3MSNX5pHduSfM= Message-ID: <4759e5740808280753o4c78b1d9i505e52d40614a98a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:53:19 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify In-Reply-To: <00be01c9091d$2f34f0b0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6329_29313200.1219935199887" References: <000301c908d1$00690740$6601a8c0@williamsteed> <00be01c9091d$2f34f0b0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:53:24 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6329_29313200.1219935199887 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Erdem, you might also want to check out Stefan Smulowitz's Kenaxis, which just got a new version! It's a real good interface with granularity one of its chief components, and originally developed from inside Max... Great sounds there. Best, Todd On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi, > > yes the discussion was helpful and intense! :) > > i have no problem with using laptop. i use and have used nearly every > software ( max, pd, metasynth, soundhack, audiomulch, csound, supercollider, > cubase, protools etc ) on the sound design market. at the moment i have 3 > setups. > > 1- acoustic guitar and laptop running audiomulch > 2- electric gtr and laptop running audiomulch and pd ( have just started > this setup ) > 3- and electric guitar and no laptop setup. > > my no laptop setup has a very specific sound. i use eclipse, fireworx, > mpx100, zvex ringtone, ehx pitch shifters and moog pedals extensively. all i > want to get rid of at the moment is marshall jmp, mxr chorus, phaser and > flanger pedals. ( for travels, in studio it is no problem to have lots of > hardware equipement ) so if i can find a very good modelling equipment with > modulation effects, that would be great. thanks for your suggestions, will > look into all of them. > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* William Walker > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:43 AM > *Subject:* Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify > > So Erdem, Was this discussion helpful ?? J > > My intent was not to start a tube VS modeling caged death match, and god > knows many of you out there find modeling satisfying enough to meet your > needs, and more power to you. I was trying to help Erdem pair down without > re-inventing his wheel or sacrificing the sound he is accustomed to. If you > have heard Erdem's work you would know that he places a premium on sound. > Until I hear otherwise, I am going to stick with tube gear if possible, > because it sounds better to my ears and feels more responsive to my hands. > What you might be interested to know Rainer is that demand for vacuum tubes > has been steadily increasing worldwide in the last twenty years, not just > for guitar amps, but for high end stereo equipment as well, and studio gear > like pre-amps and compressors, not tube based effects boxes. The reason is > the sound. Guys like Tesla and Edison where on to something. > > Yours fondly, > > sipping tea in the retirement home, > > Bill > > -- September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_6329_29313200.1219935199887 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Erdem, you might also want to check out Stefan Smulowitz's Kenaxis, which just got a new version! 

    It's a real good interface with granularity one of its chief components, and originally developed from inside Max... Great sounds there. 

    Best,

    Todd

    On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:
    hi,
     
    yes the discussion was helpful and intense! :)
     
    i have no problem with using laptop. i use and have used nearly every software ( max, pd, metasynth, soundhack, audiomulch, csound, supercollider, cubase, protools etc ) on the sound design market. at the moment i have 3 setups.
     
    1- acoustic guitar and laptop running audiomulch
    2- electric gtr and laptop running audiomulch and pd ( have just started this setup )
    3- and electric guitar and no laptop setup.
     
    my no laptop setup has a very specific sound. i use eclipse, fireworx, mpx100, zvex ringtone, ehx pitch shifters and moog pedals extensively. all i want to get rid of at the moment is marshall jmp, mxr chorus, phaser and flanger pedals. ( for travels, in studio it is no problem to have lots of hardware equipement ) so if i can find a very good modelling equipment with modulation effects, that would be great. thanks for your suggestions, will look into all of them.
     
    thanks and best.
     
    Erdem Helvacioglu
    www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
    www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
    chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
    www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
    www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:43 AM
    Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify

    So Erdem, Was this discussion helpful ?? J

     My intent was not to start a tube VS modeling caged death match,  and god knows many of you out there find modeling satisfying enough to meet your needs, and more power to you. I was trying to help Erdem pair down without re-inventing his wheel or sacrificing the sound he is accustomed to. If you have heard Erdem's  work you would know that he places a premium on sound.  Until I hear otherwise, I am going to stick with tube gear if possible,  because it sounds better to my ears and feels more responsive to my hands. What you might be interested to know Rainer is that demand for vacuum tubes has been steadily increasing worldwide in the last twenty years, not just for guitar amps, but for high end stereo equipment as well, and  studio gear like pre-amps and compressors, not tube based effects boxes. The reason is the sound.  Guys like Tesla and Edison where on to something.

    Yours fondly,

     sipping tea in the retirement home,

     Bill




    --
    September at Le Poisson Rouge with David Little and Newspeak, as well as Neil Rolnick's Economic Engine. In New York from the 1st to 17th.

    http://blog.toddreynolds.com
    http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic

    ------=_Part_6329_29313200.1219935199887-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 15:00:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1B9C3BEBA; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:00:49 -0700 Message-ID: <005601c9091e$de61f3c0$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C908E4.32031BC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckJHts8cPLO7Z8bSpKw6MeGJVlTsw== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:00:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C908E4.32031BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops typo, I wrote "not just for guitar amps, but for high end stereo equipment as well, and studio gear like pre-amps and compressors, not tube based effects boxes." I meant to say " and tube driven effects boxes" Sorry, senility is creeping in, must be that retirement home food.. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C908E4.32031BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Oops typo, I wrote “not just for guitar amps, = but for high end stereo equipment as well, and  studio gear like pre-amps = and compressors, not tube based effects boxes.” I meant to say “ = and  tube driven effects boxes”

    Sorry, senility is creeping in, must be that = retirement  home food..

    Bill

    ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C908E4.32031BC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 15:24:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CE413BEC2; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 479 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:24:58 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_12ed1b88-84d8-48f1-8fb6-7bb2366162d5_" X-Originating-IP: [99.246.89.216] From: Dave Lauzon To: Subject: repeater, edp, 2880 midi control question Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:16:57 -0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2008 15:16:57.0662 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CAFBDE0:01C90921] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:24:58 +0000 (UTC) --_12ed1b88-84d8-48f1-8fb6-7bb2366162d5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 So=2C I recently bit the bullet and added a repeater to my mix of loopers. = Currently I'm using an EDP and a 2880. The repeater may replace the 2880 = at some point=2C but right now I'm using all 3. =20 =20 My question is: I need to get a midi foot controller for the repeater. I'= m also thinking that it would be nice if I could control the 2880 and the e= dp with the same controller.=20 =20 Is this possible? =20 I've always found midi intimidating and I've resisted implementing it (othe= r than simple clock sync) to this point. =20 Any recomendations on controllers? =20 I've been looking at the roland fc-200 and fc-300 would these be suitable? =20 Answers would be greatly appreciated. =20 Thanks=2C Dave=20 _________________________________________________________________ --_12ed1b88-84d8-48f1-8fb6-7bb2366162d5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B
     =3B
    So=2C I recently bit the bullet and added a repeater to my mix of loopers.&= nbsp=3B Currently I'm using an EDP and a 2880. =3B The repeater may rep= lace the 2880 at some point=2C but right now I'm using all 3. =3B
     =3B
    My question is: =3B I need to get a midi foot controller for the repeat= er. =3B I'm also thinking that it would be nice if I could control the = 2880 and the edp with the same controller.
     =3B
    Is this possible?
     =3B
    I've always found midi intimidating and I've resisted implementing it (othe= r than simple clock sync) to this point.
     =3B
    Any =3Brecomendations on controllers?
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    I've been looking at the roland fc-200 and fc-300 =3B would these = =3Bbe suitable?
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    Answers would be greatly appreciated.
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    Thanks=2C
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    = --_12ed1b88-84d8-48f1-8fb6-7bb2366162d5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 16:10:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFCA93BEC1; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:59 UTC Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:27:15 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: That review of LD Comp 3 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <005601c90924$628f4940$39237245@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20080828144903.983963BEAF@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0exxVB.A.PeF.X3stIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:59 +0000 (UTC) http://www.feindesland.de/plattenkritiken/VA/_1935_VA_LoopersDelightCompilationVolume3_2008.html Can anybody translate this from the German? Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.TheCoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "Nikola Tesla is the fifth Beatle." - Taylor Baldwin, 11 PS - A quick hello to all. I been b-z and haven't had time to post. But I'm giggling over the gear arguments (Personal value! Financial value!) and Rick's good word on the Boss Slicer pedal. And - hold your breath! - I'm preparing a new CD of The Coyote Loops! More as it happens. dB From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 17:00:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7F453BEA9; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=mdY+Royu4lXKHLyDwRFi9o0xeS2L82D8vu3RxDlII8bhEVKgddeIPjHwmhodo8aO5I7aRl1xLO1D6viaOxkU65ETGXGujltDPH/enePfzYXC8naBICmjb51jLCWtXNLyNKuWj+aFxZkur7DFELy+lLzbvrOf7TXpQUornF8pFSA=; X-YMail-OSG: RX3BfwQVM1mu13IR2N9syx28mKqvfFRssQpsfD07fz0a4.3G4HXt0t.xigcsN6noOkZihmFu0UNa1MlMh9AldBWSjP8x_Y6jDgbbq3VGeVhxST.FVNXQs4yuA1JcNwcCn8Q- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Reply-To: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: OT:late reply to "Editing in film" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080820163003.E4D6F3BF0E@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-509678680-1219942842=:82830" Message-ID: <638783.82830.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1hoPxC.A.7gG.-mttIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:00:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-509678680-1219942842=:82830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i thought this was an interesting thread, my very late reply, since my orig= inal degree was communication studies w/ an emphasis in film studies: when i was in college back in 80's w/ mtv video boom going on, one of my pr= ofs said in a class that the power in film is the ability to edit i think the example given was how mtv was changing film/tv, moving away fro= m long, one shot scenes (used in more classic cinema and usually tv-due to = heavy bulky cameras) to a quicker, fast editing style. and this gave the fi= lms a more herky/jerky look, made things look edgier, could give sense of a= ction, etc. and obviously since the 80's numerous directors took this even = farther than we see today. another correlation, was during my art studies, in one of my painting class= es, another prof said that the power in painting is the ability to mix pain= t. how color choices can influence mood, emotion etc, and then we went on to s= tudy hofmann's push-pull theories (warm & cool colors), albers and his colo= r theories (the yale school), and of course all the artists who used color = in an emotional context for their content (the list goes on). goes to show guess i did learn something in all my yrs of college study, i = don't know how the film editing correlation works as applied to music, sinc= e i don't really have any formal background in music. but i do remember some interview w/ some hip-hop artist a few yrs ago talki= ng about=A0 samplers when they came in use in the 80's, talking about how g= roups like public enemy could sample drum rhythms etc, and then w/ it you w= ould have some random "concrete sound/noise" (a siren for example) and how = that would be part of the musical equation, and became musical and people a= ccepted it w/in that musical context (i'm badly paraphrasing) i guess since i don't have the music background, i would be curious what fo= lks were taught was the element that you manipulate that gave music it's po= wer? s--- =0A=0A=0A --0-509678680-1219942842=:82830 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
    i thought this was an interesting thread, my very late reply, since my original degree was communication studies w/ an emphasis in film studies:

    when i was in college back in 80's w/ mtv video boom going on, one of my profs said in a class that the power in film is the ability to edit

    i think the example given was how mtv was changing film/tv, moving away from long, one shot scenes (used in more classic cinema and usually tv-due to heavy bulky cameras) to a quicker, fast editing style. and this gave the films a more herky/jerky look, made things look edgier, could give sense of action, etc. and obviously since the 80's numerous directors took this even farther than we see today.

    another correlation, was during my art studies, in one of my painting classes, another prof said that the power in painting is the ability to mix paint.
    how color choices can influence mood, emotion etc, and then we went on to study hofmann's push-pull theories (warm & cool colors), albers and his color theories (the yale school), and of course all the artists who used color in an emotional context for their content (the list goes on).

    goes to show guess i did learn something in all my yrs of college study, i don't know how the film editing correlation works as applied to music, since i don't really have any formal background in music.
    but i do remember some interview w/ some hip-hop artist a few yrs ago talking about  samplers when they came in use in the 80's, talking about how groups like public enemy could sample drum rhythms etc, and then w/ it you would have some random "concrete sound/noise" (a siren for example) and how that would be part of the musical equation, and became musical and people accepted it w/in that musical context (i'm badly paraphrasing)

    i guess since i don't have the music background, i would be curious what folks were taught was the element that you manipulate that gave music it's power?
    s---

    --0-509678680-1219942842=:82830-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 17:15:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA5D23BECC; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:15:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C90931.A7B8CBA8" Subject: RE: repeater, edp, 2880 midi control question Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:15:25 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08230983F2E7@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: repeater, edp, 2880 midi control question Thread-Index: AckJMaloNdeQ1XGyS3SGyzmodNSnCQ== References: From: "Dean, Hal " To: "Dave Lauzon" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2008 17:15:24.0020 (UTC) FILETIME=[A867EB40:01C90931] Resent-Message-ID: <9SdnEB.A.P_G.x0ttIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:15:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90931.A7B8CBA8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, assuming you don't have a laptop or MIDI computer interface to allow rerouting in software/hardware combination, see http://www.midisolutions.com/prodqth.htm. Might be helpful, connected to any foot controller of your choice. =20 I use one with an FCB 1010 to change patches in both hardware and software simultaneously. =20 =20 Also, doesn't the EDP have a MIDI Through? That is the only 1 of the 3 devices you're using that I have. =20 Hal Dean =20 From: Dave Lauzon [mailto:davelauz@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:17 AM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: repeater, edp, 2880 midi control question =20 =20 =20 So, I recently bit the bullet and added a repeater to my mix of loopers. Currently I'm using an EDP and a 2880. The repeater may replace the 2880 at some point, but right now I'm using all 3. =20 =20 My question is: I need to get a midi foot controller for the repeater. I'm also thinking that it would be nice if I could control the 2880 and the edp with the same controller.=20 =20 Is this possible? =20 I've always found midi intimidating and I've resisted implementing it (other than simple clock sync) to this point. =20 Any recomendations on controllers? =20 I've been looking at the roland fc-200 and fc-300 would these be suitable? =20 Answers would be greatly appreciated. =20 Thanks, Dave=20 ________________________________ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90931.A7B8CBA8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Dave, assuming you don’t have a laptop or MIDI = computer interface to allow rerouting in software/hardware combination, see http://www.midisolution= s.com/prodqth.htm.  Might be helpful, connected to any foot controller of your = choice.

     

    I use one with an FCB 1010 to change patches in both = hardware and software simultaneously. 

     

    Also, doesn’t the EDP have a MIDI Through? That is = the only 1 of the 3 devices you’re using that I have.

     

    Hal Dean

     

    From:= Dave = Lauzon [mailto:davelauz@hotmail.com]
    Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:17 AM
    To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: repeater, edp, 2880 midi control = question

     

     
     
    So, I recently bit the bullet and added a repeater to my mix of = loopers.  Currently I'm using an EDP and a 2880.  The repeater may replace = the 2880 at some point, but right now I'm using all 3. 
     
    My question is:  I need to get a midi foot controller for the repeater.  I'm also thinking that it would be nice if I could = control the 2880 and the edp with the same controller.
     
    Is this possible?
     
    I've always found midi intimidating and I've resisted implementing it = (other than simple clock sync) to this point.
     
    Any recomendations on controllers?
     
    I've been looking at the roland fc-200 and fc-300  would = these be suitable?
     
    Answers would be greatly appreciated.
     
    Thanks,
    Dave 

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90931.A7B8CBA8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 18:06:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D55C93BEA4; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:06:14 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM MacOS X Eudora Version 6.2J rev3.3 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20080828170047.4B1853BEBA@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20080828170047.4B1853BEBA@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:59:26 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: LD CD 3 German review Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <5F_oNB.A.1M.WkutIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi LD, I found "Loopers's Delight compilation Vol.3 " CD review by German. http://www.feindesland.de/plattenkritiken/VA/_1935_VA_LoopersDelightCompilationVolume3_2008.html I can not read German, I hope it's good review... Sunao www.electr-ohm.com www.myspace.com/sunao From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 18:21:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DC273BEA4; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7zPNVb2ouroN1iwh8RAdaikpDS6AjNFKmjeCs1ClM6A=; b=ExKLOMxbv4/Vw67FeLJV/zdLqePuKaafBWY69yzJglRuw3Q6IMNBs2P49JfsAogSyT m0zplIGYPs/aLIj1MOOtSD4O+4OOhXalehYMIyJHJ/knw4ofxuEC5TV08OKDaTymkTDb zHVXz1NHDsgOwYwrf961PtlZk5dA3v9mbrzlM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=KIwe+2eOLFKdC+Nr2jEYUrKOmr5ASyi/FBcwRgE6PHICfqVIjcNPSCMVwC9ORVSCks fxqeH2KWMERk+Uxlq5X2lX+48Kfh1YtaYEyJZaxxt2oPD7ifykwBxweUzhFWWtm7HBmp JJeO6GBXLlMvGl9P+zTaHEXNI4ezw0z2AvAlc= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:21:06 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD CD 3 German review In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11637_10473336.1219947666148" References: <20080828170047.4B1853BEBA@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:21:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11637_10473336.1219947666148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If you go to http://babelfish.yahoo.com and put the URL in, you can get a rough translation. It's not perfect, but it is close. And, it is a good review. On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Sunao Inami wrote: > Hi LD, > > I found "Loopers's Delight compilation Vol.3 " CD review by German. > > > http://www.feindesland.de/plattenkritiken/VA/_1935_VA_LoopersDelightCompilationVolume3_2008.html > > I can not read German, I hope it's good review... > > Sunao > www.electr-ohm.com > www.myspace.com/sunao > > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_11637_10473336.1219947666148 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    If you go to http://babelfish.yahoo.com and put the URL in, you can get a rough translation.  It's not perfect, but it is close.  And, it is a good review.

    On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Sunao Inami <webmaster@cavestudio.com> wrote:
    Hi LD,

    I found "Loopers's Delight compilation Vol.3 " CD review by German.

    http://www.feindesland.de/plattenkritiken/VA/_1935_VA_LoopersDelightCompilationVolume3_2008.html

    I can not read German, I hope it's good review...

     Sunao
    www.electr-ohm.com
    www.myspace.com/sunao




    --
    -==-=-=-
    Tony
    ------=_Part_11637_10473336.1219947666148-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 18:27:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E7793BE95; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #5829618 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Bfm0rRiBBMql2I6jNfhr0iqzfLJ1ujloZ/+umGM PEY19awjybCUnr Message-ID: <004c01c9093d$df5ae1a0$92a1fe91@parsick> From: "Wavecomputer360" To: References: <20080828170047.4B1853BEBA@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: LD CD 3 German review Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:42:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.85 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:27:58 +0000 (UTC) It scores 15 out of 15 points so I´d guess it´s pretty good :-)... Cheers, Stephen ____________________________________________________________________ "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info please check www.parsick.com For legal downloads please check: http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunao Inami" To: Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: LD CD 3 German review > Hi LD, > > I found "Loopers's Delight compilation Vol.3 " CD review by German. > > http://www.feindesland.de/plattenkritiken/VA/_1935_VA_LoopersDelightCompilationVolume3_2008.html > > I can not read German, I hope it's good review... > > Sunao > www.electr-ohm.com > www.myspace.com/sunao From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 19:13:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42CFA3BE92; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:13:38 UTC Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:13:17 -0400 From: Scott Duncan Subject: Re: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal In-reply-to: <01bd01c906a5$37919cb0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <9E3F4B37-14A2-4C7D-AF8C-3F551E8EA572@webworkz.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1025654180 X-Priority: 3 References: <01bd01c906a5$37919cb0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:13:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1025654180 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Aug 25, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > .... questions about the SL-20 SLICER's ..... I've eyed the Slicer ever since hearing about it, but remember someone's reply here saying that the Adrenalinn III can do all it does and more. After checking Roger Linn's site & YouTube tutorials, it does seems like a more/ better device. More $$ as well. Can anyone at LD offer more insight or experience in comparing the two? I appreciate Rick's comments/ review already. Thanks in advance -- Scott Duncan Asheville, NC --Apple-Mail-1--1025654180 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
    On Aug 25, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

    .... questions about the SL-20 SLICER's = .....

    I've eyed the Slicer ever = since hearing about it, but remember someone's reply here saying that = the Adrenalinn III can do all it does and more. After checking Roger = Linn's site & YouTube tutorials, it does seems like a more/ better = device. More $$ as well.

    Can anyone at LD offer = more insight or experience in comparing the two? =A0I appreciate Rick's = comments/ review already.

    Thanks in advance = --

    Scott = Duncan=A0
    Asheville, NC =A0






    = --Apple-Mail-1--1025654180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 20:54:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C4F03BE94; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_028bc959-8020-40b9-956f-0dc1c0a68251_" X-Originating-IP: [99.246.89.216] From: Dave Lauzon To: Subject: RE: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:54:58 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9E3F4B37-14A2-4C7D-AF8C-3F551E8EA572@webworkz.com> References: <01bd01c906a5$37919cb0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <9E3F4B37-14A2-4C7D-AF8C-3F551E8EA572@webworkz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2008 20:54:57.0981 (UTC) FILETIME=[54B2D6D0:01C90950] Resent-Message-ID: <2icbwD.A.qfF.iCxtIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:54:59 +0000 (UTC) --_028bc959-8020-40b9-956f-0dc1c0a68251_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just plugged in my slicer for the first time last night. It is definitel= y one of the best pedals I've plugged in a while. Its replaceing my murf. = more extreme. =20 not much of a review=2C but its certainly worth it. =20 Dave Date: Thu=2C 28 Aug 2008 14:13:17 -0400From: scottd@webworkz.comSubject: Re= : BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedalTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On Aug 25=2C 2008=2C at 7:24 AM=2C Rick Walker wrote: .... questions about the SL-20 SLICER's ..... I've eyed the Slicer ever since hearing about it=2C but remember someone's = reply here saying that the Adrenalinn III can do all it does and more. Afte= r checking Roger Linn's site & YouTube tutorials=2C it does seems like a mo= re/ better device. More $$ as well. Can anyone at LD offer more insight or experience in comparing the two? I = appreciate Rick's comments/ review already. Thanks in advance -- Scott Duncan=20 Asheville=2C NC =20 _________________________________________________________________ Find hidden words=2C unscramble celebrity names=2C or try the ultimate cros= sword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212= --_028bc959-8020-40b9-956f-0dc1c0a68251_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just plugged in my slicer for the first time la= st night. =3B It is definitely one of the best pedals I've plugged in a= while. =3B Its replaceing my murf. =3B more extreme.
     =3B
    not much of a review=2C but its certainly worth it.
     =3B
    Dave





    Date: Thu=2C 28 Aug 2008 14:13:17 -0400
    From: scottd@webworkz.com
    Sub= ject: Re: BOSS SL-20 SLICER/LOOPER pedal
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com



    On Aug 25=2C 2008=2C at 7:24 AM=2C Rick Walker wrote:

    = .... questions about the SL-20 SLICER's .....
    <= BR>
    I've eyed the Slicer ever since hearing about it=2C but remember someo= ne's reply here saying that the Adrenalinn III can do all it does and more.= After checking Roger Linn's site &=3B YouTube tutorials=2C it does seem= s like a more/ better device. More $$ as well.

    Can anyone at LD offer more insight or experience in comparing the two= ?  =3BI appreciate Rick's comments/ review already.

    Thanks in advance --

    Scott Duncan =3B
    Asheville=2C NC  =3B








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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Aug 28 23:35:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDF123BE90; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3604 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:35:18 UTC Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:35:05 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48B72819.4020404@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:35:18 +0000 (UTC) I'm not sure whether this dimension of the discussion has been highlighted in this thread - if so, please forgive me... In my case, I much prefer the sound of my 'real' tube amp with or without a pedalboard full of effects to any of the modeling systems I have tried. I like the way the sound is localized on stage, and to my mind, I have found the best tone ever. However... When using my looping rig, I use a modeling amp (Line6 PodXT or Johnson J-Station) through a full-range PA (in stereo when practical). It's a trade off that I feel is necessary to eliminate the need for an open mic onstage or a line output from the amp, neither of which ever seems completely satisfying. The trade off becomes more practical for a number of reasons: 1) the primary guitar tone I dial up is exactly the same one fed to the looper 2) I can blend the looped instance in to taste post-fader and maintain the balance much more easily (especially for low-volume situations). 3) I don't need to carry the amp around when I'm already hauling the looping (rack) system and a small PA system. If I never got to play my real amp outside of the living room I'd be very distressed. But I expect to always have a nice small-ish tube amp and it will hopefully continue to see action on the local club scene. Of course I may one day have problems with Nurse Ratched at the nursing home about that. Finally, I'm working on a laptop solution which will eventually eliminate the hardware-based modeling amp - Amplitube II seems to be as good as any of them and I got a license for stupid-cheep. I see the looping rig hardware components pared down to a guitar, an Axon AX100 MKII controller, footcontroller and a laptop (and a full-range PA, of course). Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 00:40:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 720543BE92; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48B72819.4020404@Verizon.net> References: <48B72819.4020404@Verizon.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-27--1002456717 Message-Id: <096CE867-10AA-40E5-B9A8-9038F986EC57@zerocrossing.net> From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:39:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:40:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-27--1002456717 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Aug 28, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Dan Ash wrote: > I'm not sure whether this dimension of the discussion has been > highlighted in this thread - if so, please forgive me... > > In my case, I much prefer the sound of my 'real' tube amp with or > without a pedalboard full of effects to any of the modeling systems > I have tried. I like the way the sound is localized on stage, and > to my mind, I have found the best tone ever. > > However... > > When using my looping rig, I use a modeling amp (Line6 PodXT or > Johnson J-Station) through a full-range PA (in stereo when > practical). It's a trade off that I feel is necessary to eliminate > the need for an open mic onstage or a line output from the amp, > neither of which ever seems completely satisfying. I think most of us feel this way. Who hates a great tube amp? However, what if you're like me and your only rig is a looping rig? You loop with... > > > Finally, I'm working on a laptop solution which will eventually > eliminate the hardware-based modeling amp - Amplitube II seems to > be as good as any of them and I got a license for stupid-cheep. I > see the looping rig hardware components pared down to a guitar, an > Axon AX100 MKII controller, footcontroller and a laptop (and a full- > range PA, of course). Works like charm. Actually I did a lot of comparisons and I'd say that what ever algorithm IK Multimedia's using for their amps seems ages beyond the competition. I really love it, but I wish the routing flexibility of their new X-Gear software was a little better and it had MIDI control that didn't suck. Actually, I wish it was the amp models of Amplitube with the functionality of Guitar Rig. Right now my work around is to sometimes not use it's "rack" effects and instead load up KORE 2 as an effect after it. Crazy sounds to be had there. Sure I might be able to get something better with a boutique tube amp and some Eventides, but frankly I wouldn't spend that kind of money on something that doesn't house me or make me money. M --Apple-Mail-27--1002456717 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
    On Aug 28, 2008, at = 3:35 PM, Dan Ash wrote:

    I'm not sure whether this dimension of the = discussion has been highlighted in this thread - if so, please forgive = me...

    In my case, I much prefer the sound of my 'real' = tube amp with or without a pedalboard full of effects to any of the = modeling systems I have tried.=A0 = I like the way the sound is localized on stage, and to my mind, I = have found the best tone ever.

    However...

    When = using my looping rig, I use a modeling amp (Line6 PodXT or Johnson = J-Station) through a full-range PA (in stereo when practical).=A0 It's a trade off that I feel = is necessary to eliminate the need for an open mic onstage or a line = output from the amp, neither of which ever seems completely = satisfying.

    I think most of us = feel this way. =A0Who hates a great tube amp? =A0However, what if you're = like me and your only rig is a looping rig? =A0You loop = with...


    Finally, I'm working on a laptop = solution which will eventually eliminate the hardware-based modeling amp = - Amplitube II seems to be as good as any of them and I got a license = for stupid-cheep.=A0 I see = the looping rig hardware components pared down to a guitar, an Axon = AX100 MKII controller, footcontroller and a laptop (and a full-range PA, = of course).

    Works like charm. =A0Actually= I did a lot of comparisons and I'd say that what ever=A0algorithm=A0IK = Multimedia's using for their amps seems ages beyond the competition. =A0 = I really love it, but I wish the routing flexibility of their new X-Gear = software was a little better and it had MIDI control that didn't suck. = =A0Actually, I wish it was the amp models of Amplitube with the = functionality of Guitar Rig. =A0Right now my work around is to sometimes = not use it's "rack" effects and instead load up KORE 2 as an effect = after it. =A0Crazy sounds to be had there. =A0Sure I might be able to = get something better with a boutique tube amp and some Eventides, but = frankly I wouldn't spend that kind of money on something that doesn't = house me or make me = money.

    M
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11am to 2pm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 05:24:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 439A73BE92; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=q0VMeA14S44ZusdKov8NOvPhb4Oa48uLAb/wrz4VJN8+AlqmqK7QFqGDoL9fxjjN4AeUVEMyC+GlGvIbg2VmN3PMKl2JvDnJQv0kFsyQ+T2GSa+QpjT9QKOiHJ5obMPbgOltn/cNVtu6AF/THXtMdwhnE6atkA0BJ7aqD5qkubg=; X-YMail-OSG: HF2FIEUVM1mSqy3IVBEwdWt0qwAR0ToXpBhL3rValoJfWpZYu7wsKB3F5XSj6OBKlyfmmf2iL5Ut.HHV3E5YgN93JqJ9lg3Q476XWt_5USmecFMwzTvzGzKcyNu4Lpjdy8HPQ7PawcCkB0mSZtlSE9o- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:24:24 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: cello for airports, moved to terminal 1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <245746.2569.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Heathen scum. And WTH is an SFMOMA store doing at an AIRPORT terminal. Total sellout. See you tomorrow. --- On Thu, 8/28/08, info at zoekeating wrote: > From: info at zoekeating > Subject: cello for airports, moved to terminal 1 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 9:27 PM > regarding my cello performance tomorrow at SFO: > > i just found out that for various logistical reasons ( um, > i heard > the guy who runs the SFMOMA store in the int'l terminal > DIDN'T LIKE > MY MUSIC and wants to listen to the wind quintet), i've > been moved. > my performance will not be in the international terminal, > instead it > will be in terminal 1. on the mezzanine, with a lovely view > of the > security checkpoint. not quite so uplifting as the > international > terminal. > > but there is still sushi nearby! > > 11am to 2pm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 05:45:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 489833BE93; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Gn57YZlo5flPoJ/dBfNSvqodbRjqnjRXOINLJ++G29g=; b=v1727kUTkDHC0cGO5vnvjhTQvYq3S0bcF3MwqKWo5ne47cBVLhVsqiEIH6CRJEap6O oLAEpp6vEyZ4R7gJavLw9UYs2daxZWYdQvAlFcBhQAAJcY5QkgJa7Wao4m4DTVBtznlO j+reLdCr0J+JaKz1SnmwxwbA/lcyri/WeCVSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=r0zFjFcvfDchFshjbJ4JBe1q0Drcp66C7C+Ol83bqUj/nRwp90q4e/OQCC+0/GuQ3h VPciRpFjMfyD0tp7h3uTfyDNWp6UY/QLrb2Iq/ZnQYZVa/6W8zOnJIINQh289afQg4S+ BOB7BlOLJb3GzoO/VLwWTKLwcAA7LfUo4FBDE= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:45:37 -0700 From: "Michael Billow" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: cello for airports, moved to terminal 1 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12899_11558345.1219988737307" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:45:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12899_11558345.1219988737307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well I will be sure to stop by the SFMOMA store at International Terminal and make an inquiry as to the whereabouts of Zoe Keating, the accomplished composer, making sure to throw some tude and not buy anything when he tells me... ;o)~ On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:27 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > regarding my cello performance tomorrow at SFO: > > i just found out that for various logistical reasons ( um, i heard the guy > who runs the SFMOMA store in the int'l terminal DIDN'T LIKE MY MUSIC and > wants to listen to the wind quintet), i've been moved. my performance will > not be in the international terminal, instead it will be in terminal 1. on > the mezzanine, with a lovely view of the security checkpoint. not quite so > uplifting as the international terminal. > > but there is still sushi nearby! > > 11am to 2pm > > ------=_Part_12899_11558345.1219988737307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Well I will be sure to stop by the SFMOMA store at International Terminal and make an inquiry as to the whereabouts of Zoe Keating, the accomplished composer, making sure to throw some tude and not buy anything when he tells me...
    ;o)~

    On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:27 PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
    regarding my cello performance tomorrow at SFO:

    i just found out that for various logistical reasons ( um, i heard the guy who runs the SFMOMA store in the int'l terminal DIDN'T LIKE MY MUSIC and wants to listen to the wind quintet), i've been moved. my performance will not be in the international terminal, instead it will be in terminal 1. on the mezzanine, with a lovely view of the security checkpoint. not quite so uplifting as the international terminal.

    but there is still sushi nearby!

    11am to 2pm


    ------=_Part_12899_11558345.1219988737307-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 05:55:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5901C3BE90; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zqouZ6fpgTUA:10 a=ByhgzKG3tTQA:10 a=d-7XP5GJH4JOrE17SkwA:9 a=UJsmv4QBTA-zisvoXEfJ3u4g9kwA:4 a=wCaoJTriV0sA:10 In-Reply-To: <245746.2569.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <245746.2569.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Cc: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: cello for airports, moved to terminal 1 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:55:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:55:25 +0000 (UTC) yeah, philistines! i think the deyoung is way cooler now anyway with their rockin' friday night parties!! even if it does look like an oil tanker. i think there is more to the story, like i guess the int'l terminal spot is right under the announcement speaker, and i was interfering with understanding of the permanent "threat level orange" announcements. don't want anyone to NOT hear that, do we? but it is true that the SFMOMA store chap prefers woodwinds. can't win em all!! to make up for it...my cd is #1 in itunes classical today. so someone out there likes it. On Aug 28, 2008, at 10:24 PM, George Ludwig wrote: > Heathen scum. And WTH is an SFMOMA store doing at an AIRPORT terminal. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 06:21:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC2103BE8D; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gwUAEK9EwIIs6VTO999jkij6jRzQ0HEbSF334FbII3E=; b=bRRwOJ4lZWxY7WwL49wNL8h9dFa3d07fiVGxP+ADL5OaHKRwm5ebL93ISzqhIeG3h+ ZhIOwdmElPZY6xg8irA0dlTm0XZO95mAf5u0V3bnq5I+Sm+e5Pxqo3oPoJEMkJAhthY4 PqhqJ5mwO2kgna0LpPGgpTm9DgyrE2CJKtE3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=JsOhIrQxVL6AtgJ0jr6lJJzX8+UCHOTwyOABcpDCxBKp9EJHOe5VM+mRkXhsa1yBjI niOh2+mFcKPgLdbqDbmHZ6pw+pfZTz/vuraGn356bYh+cbvgCpTA20ewtcytiIOXW5x/ nbmOhV53+E3kxnlnMN8t2lzaPFOfsyTMa9b6o= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808282321l1375dd36sf316ee2918448bd4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:21:08 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify In-Reply-To: <48B72819.4020404@Verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48B72819.4020404@Verizon.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:21:10 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Dan Ash wrote: > I'm not sure whether this dimension of the discussion has been highlighted > Finally, I'm working on a laptop solution which will eventually eliminate > the hardware-based modeling amp - Amplitube II seems to be as good as any of > them and I got a license for stupid-cheep. --> On software I too like AmpliTube II and use it regularly. But I would rather say it has a distinct sound of its own! The Jimi Hendrix edition and the Metal edition are very different though. Some guitarist friends I respect say that Eleven (RTAS plug-in for Pro Tools) "is even better". I have not tried Eleven myself and I'm not sure what they mean by that, maybe they simply mean that you can simulate more classic rigs with Eleven, and that I know is true. I have also tried NI Guitar Rig, but personally I prefer the sound of AmplitTube II JH. For recording production I can sometimes have good results with Guitar Amp Pro of Logic's, but not yet as a live solution. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 06:23:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0C0A3BE92; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: VG99 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:23:05 -0700 Message-ID: <9D8F6F46184348E7B698C3107D60B65F@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90965.0922EB00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckJn7JQSCciOcM3QvemqXocwzcV7g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:23:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90965.0922EB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Believe it or not I'm not totally down on modeling, and of all the products out there both hard and soft, the VG99 is the most intriguing to me, for a number of reasons. One is they have been doing modeling longer than any major manufacturer I believe, even predating Line 6 if I'm not mistaken, so perhaps they have evolved the furthest. Another is the midi capability and Roland pickup capability. I've been waiting for a while for them to come out with a real guitar synthesizer with a real bank of real quality synth sounds and samples, and though this isn't that animal, it does seem to do some pretty bitchin simulations of GR300 inspired sounds, and it has the capability to drive other synthesizers via a built in midi converter like the G-20, Not to mention a really cool control surface with d-beam and ribbon controls etc...the dedicated foot pedal ain't to shabby either. Also with the one exception of their reverb algorithms, Roland does some many types of effects so well, with great routing flexibility and deep midi control capability. So would any one on this list who owns this beast care to shed some light on it. Is it easy to get around on? How's the manual? Oh its Roland, need I ask? How is the modeling? Can you get a dynamic clean sound ala' blackface, can you get a singing sweet women tone type overdrive with it? I haven't used my GR30 guitar synth in over 2 years but I'm wondering if this beast might get me interested in guitar synthesizer and elaborate effects usage again. I'm also fascinated with the possibilities of altered tuning the VG99 offers. Thoughts? Anyone? Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90965.0922EB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

       Believe it or not I’m not totally = down on modeling, and of all the products out there both hard and soft, the VG99 = is the most intriguing to me, for a number of reasons. One is they have been = doing modeling longer than any major manufacturer I believe, even predating = Line 6 if I’m not mistaken, so perhaps they have evolved the furthest. =  Another is the midi capability and Roland pickup capability. I’ve been = waiting for a while for them to come out with a real guitar synthesizer with a = real bank of real quality synth sounds and samples, and though this = isn’t that animal, it does seem to do some pretty bitchin simulations of GR300 = inspired sounds, and it has the capability to drive other synthesizers via a = built in midi converter like the G-20, Not to mention a really cool control = surface with d-beam and ribbon controls etc…..the dedicated foot pedal = ain’t to shabby either.  Also with the one exception of their reverb = algorithms, Roland does some many types of effects so well, with great routing flexibility = and deep midi control capability.  So would any one on this list who = owns this beast care to shed some light on it. Is it easy to get around on? = How’s the manual? Oh its Roland, need I ask? How is the modeling? Can you get = a dynamic clean sound ala’ blackface, can you get a singing sweet =  women tone  type overdrive with it? I haven’t used my GR30 guitar = synth in over 2 years but I’m wondering if this beast might get me = interested in guitar synthesizer and elaborate effects usage again. I’m also = fascinated with the possibilities of altered tuning the VG99 offers. Thoughts? = Anyone?

     Bill

    ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C90965.0922EB00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 07:28:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AD743BE8C; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PU84V4RlFApjBrARcicA:9 a=gVoR989G1QCFmUnbWwDTG54S8WEA:4 a=CWfAmLVWKswA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: danger, dirty midi guts topic Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:28:08 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:28:12 +0000 (UTC) I've been pursuing this on the Ableton forums, and thought I might as well post here too... I wonder if anyone else has ever had this problem?? Its been going on for me for a long, long time and I think I just found a clue! The backstory: - I am remotely controlling Live with a foot pedal, blah blah. - The foot pedal is hooked up to a MOTU Ultralite. - MOTU ultralite goes into MIDIPipe, MidiPipe goes into Live. 80% of the time, everything is hunky dory. Occasionally, when I start up the MIDI is dead. I can see the midi signal flash on the LCD of the MOTU. However, according to my trusty MidiMonitor, nothing is coming in on the MOTU port, and in fact...the MOTU port doesn't show up when this occurs so there is nothing to see. (clue) I can also get this to happen when, like a genius, I spontaneously edit and recompile my AppleScripts right before going onstage. That means quitting and restarting MIDIPipe. When I do this, invariably my MIDI input is dead. (clue) (I'm using the pedal to control external hardware and this I can always do just fine. Good ol hardware. Again, messages are coming into MOTU according to the LCD.) Seems like the problem has to be MOTU or Apple or MIDIPipe. I've been trying to sort it out with MOTU for donkeys years. They blame Apple. No one at Apple has ever responded, but the forums say MOTU. Nico, as far as I know, doesn't respond anymore to MIDIPipe questions. The only thing that gets my MIDI back up is crazy, frantic powering off the MOTU and rebooting my computer, (and WTF, order seems to matter) and its always freaky to do onstage AND sometimes it doesn't work. I have to do it twice. I can also never remember the correct order (MOTU - Computer - MIDIPipe) in these situations. I dread this more than anything. Well, it just happened again, and I looked in my console. (why didn't I look before??!) There is this error: MIDIServer crashed And indeed, the MIDIServer crash log is full of stuff, from every time I have this problem!! This is the best clue yet. But I have no idea what to do with it. Does anyone have any suggestions what to do next? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 07:57:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9F3A3BEC3; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX195WyE9Py153+GC6nTqw94HqKYJPy26o6q9aEVDio rnv4lKed5GzHZx Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20080828170047.4B1853BEBA@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--976212667 Message-Id: <7187EB1E-AF23-4EDA-9A80-1FCF26F663D5@gmx.net> From: Nico Spahni Subject: Re: LD CD 3 German review Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:57:19 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67,0.67 Resent-Message-ID: <4KvDHC.A.EoC.iv6tIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:57:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--976212667 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed It's a very good review indeed. Here's an off-the-cuff translation of =20= the conclusion: Those truly interested in ambient who are looking for a multi-faceted =20= documentary sound selection should get =84V.A. =96 Looper=92s Delight =20= Compilation Voume 3=93. Unlike in other compilation, there=92s no = filling-=20 up with rejects here. Instead, real lights that shine clearly and =20 brightly on the ambient sky are stringed together. In my view, a =20 purchase is compulsory for those who collect musical treasures from =20 the underground. Cheers from Switzerland Nico Am 28.08.2008 um 19:59 schrieb Sunao Inami: > Hi LD, > > I found "Loopers's Delight compilation Vol.3 " CD review by German. > > http://www.feindesland.de/plattenkritiken/VA/=20 > _1935_VA_LoopersDelightCompilationVolume3_2008.html > > I can not read German, I hope it's good review... > > Sunao > www.electr-ohm.com > www.myspace.com/sunao --Apple-Mail-1--976212667 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 It's a very good review indeed. Here's an off-the-cuff translation of = the conclusion:

    Those truly interested in ambient who are looking = for a multi-faceted documentary sound selection should get =84V.A. =96 = Looper=92s Delight Compilation Voume 3=93. Unlike in other compilation, = there=92s no filling-up with rejects here. Instead, real lights that = shine clearly and brightly on the ambient sky are stringed together. In = my view, a purchase is compulsory for those who collect musical = treasures from the underground.

    Cheers from = Switzerland

    Nico




    Am = 28.08.2008 um 19:59 schrieb Sunao Inami:

    Hi LD,

    I found "Loopers's Delight = compilation Vol.3 " CD review by German.


    I can = not read German, I hope it's good review...

    =A0Sunao
    www.electr-ohm.com
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: cello for airports, moved to terminal 1 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19333_15933857.1220002165218" References: <245746.2569.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:29:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19333_15933857.1220002165218 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yea! Go Zoe! :) dennis On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:55 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: > to make up for it...my cd is #1 in itunes classical today. so someone out > there likes it. > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_19333_15933857.1220002165218 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Yea! Go Zoe!

    :)

    dennis

    On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:55 AM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
    to make up for it...my cd is #1 in itunes classical today. so someone out there likes it.



    --
    http://myspace.com/usrsbin
    http://audiozoloft.com
    http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
    ------=_Part_19333_15933857.1220002165218-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 09:37:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9C863BE92; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+GsC8QSzgdcpKHKkYT8lnKS+J58ZSZsfGRrIi7cSEX8=; b=uihj/HVRC+iqSjEStPO4BoKtp5mVWctc9GkI1TzYyMifhiSL865i/z1jhRPFx5uFGb 7jzKaeJwi+WQj+GGqpfnNQPePhGuYB9CTxBMHJ/8gl2peP8apdvGG6ahwWWI5zb5TFB5 z12XQzDnIhagiUZhDlCYq+Xp3zvBtFBC12RYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vKC1p7bB4K9XEg9LuH9UqNuIKNk6LcYQ24LNpzryhzf/m3G4YlybBAe6kYu0923LCi VIkZLzqJFHDdvdfYVb+9/SB/9iI/cTXm+9HfHmyAOnrpCXOj8VFMIwNj2b97esAg6SfU iqrCdQmO5obLRA1dNHEAew3h9r7y6p2hpNygM= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:37:44 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: danger, dirty midi guts topic In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19395_32574309.1220002664922" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:37:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19395_32574309.1220002664922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A shot in the dark, based on the illuminating Troubleshooting comments at the end of the Kenaxis documentation I was reading through last night: Start up sequence. Apparently, it REALLY does make a difference. So you may need to memorize or write down and mark your start up sequence. But, hey, there's lots more MIDI expertise here and there will probably be more answers ... Best (wish I was flying onto Terminal 1 today between 11-2:00 today!) Dennis On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:28 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: > I've been pursuing this on the Ableton forums, and thought I might as well > post here too... > > I wonder if anyone else has ever had this problem?? Its been going on for > me for a long, long time and I think I just found a clue! > > The backstory: > > - I am remotely controlling Live with a foot pedal, blah blah. > - The foot pedal is hooked up to a MOTU Ultralite. > - MOTU ultralite goes into MIDIPipe, MidiPipe goes into Live. > > 80% of the time, everything is hunky dory. Occasionally, when I start up > the MIDI is dead. I can see the midi signal flash on the LCD of the MOTU. > However, according to my trusty MidiMonitor, nothing is coming in on the > MOTU port, and in fact...the MOTU port doesn't show up when this occurs so > there is nothing to see. (clue) > > I can also get this to happen when, like a genius, I spontaneously edit and > recompile my AppleScripts right before going onstage. That means quitting > and restarting MIDIPipe. When I do this, invariably my MIDI input is dead. > (clue) > > (I'm using the pedal to control external hardware and this I can always do > just fine. Good ol hardware. Again, messages are coming into MOTU according > to the LCD.) > > Seems like the problem has to be MOTU or Apple or MIDIPipe. I've been > trying to sort it out with MOTU for donkeys years. They blame Apple. No one > at Apple has ever responded, but the forums say MOTU. Nico, as far as I > know, doesn't respond anymore to MIDIPipe questions. > > The only thing that gets my MIDI back up is crazy, frantic powering off the > MOTU and rebooting my computer, (and WTF, order seems to matter) and its > always freaky to do onstage AND sometimes it doesn't work. I have to do it > twice. I can also never remember the correct order (MOTU - Computer - > MIDIPipe) in these situations. I dread this more than anything. > > Well, it just happened again, and I looked in my console. (why didn't I > look before??!) > > There is this error: MIDIServer crashed > And indeed, the MIDIServer crash log is full of stuff, from every time I > have this problem!! > > This is the best clue yet. But I have no idea what to do with it. > > Does anyone have any suggestions what to do next? > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_19395_32574309.1220002664922 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    A shot in the dark, based on the illuminating Troubleshooting comments at the end of the Kenaxis documentation I was reading through last night:

    Start up sequence.

    Apparently, it REALLY does make a difference. So you may need to memorize or write down and mark your start up sequence.

    But, hey, there's lots more MIDI expertise here and there will probably be more answers ...

    Best (wish I was flying onto Terminal 1 today between 11-2:00 today!)

    Dennis

    On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:28 AM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
    I've been pursuing this on the Ableton forums, and thought I might as well post here too...

    I wonder if anyone else has ever had this problem?? Its been going on for me for a long, long time and I think I just found a clue!

    The backstory:

    - I am remotely controlling Live with a foot pedal, blah blah.
    - The foot pedal is hooked up to a MOTU Ultralite.
    - MOTU ultralite goes into MIDIPipe, MidiPipe goes into Live.

    80% of the time, everything is hunky dory. Occasionally, when I start up the MIDI is dead. I can see the midi signal flash on the LCD of the MOTU. However, according to my trusty MidiMonitor, nothing is coming in on the MOTU port, and in fact...the MOTU port doesn't show up when this occurs so there is nothing to see. (clue)

    I can also get this to happen when, like a genius, I spontaneously edit and recompile my AppleScripts right before going onstage. That means quitting and restarting MIDIPipe. When I do this, invariably my MIDI input is dead. (clue)

    (I'm using the pedal to control external hardware and this I can always do just fine. Good ol hardware. Again, messages are coming into MOTU according to the LCD.)

    Seems like the problem has to be MOTU or Apple or MIDIPipe. I've been trying to sort it out with MOTU for donkeys years. They blame Apple. No one at Apple has ever responded, but the forums say MOTU. Nico, as far as I know, doesn't respond anymore to MIDIPipe questions.

    The only thing that gets my MIDI back up is crazy, frantic powering off the MOTU and rebooting my computer, (and WTF, order seems to matter) and its always freaky to do onstage AND sometimes it doesn't work. I have to do it twice. I can also never remember the correct order (MOTU - Computer - MIDIPipe) in these situations. I dread this more than anything.

    Well, it just happened again, and I looked in my console.  (why didn't I look before??!)

    There is this error: MIDIServer crashed
    And indeed, the MIDIServer crash log is full of stuff, from every time I have this problem!!

    This is the best clue yet. But I have no idea what to do with it.

    Does anyone have any suggestions what to do next?




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    ------=_Part_19395_32574309.1220002664922-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 09:55:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 092913BE89; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8go9Nqnm+NF0cBGY6NTrhp/4OQdSJx2lqUL4HAdPzQU=; b=vBeoz2TnP4hB8Q+df2fZgkN2NLU1keRg2X63Bz3RZA1UNEHvPUQMbN8YhJYs9v09E/ pKv2PBqqis07PzNkY8A79z+pXSXWTfoqAL0bZqDQp4ZlJqUKVTEj59PjiyjhB2pyPvX9 yNJ/8MOMv7yj/3W0w/PSuwTj8v5GjV98/lyAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HEdojM25XoPdKatFstl0EnnhS+E8RKQMKf0LbrfRj8kO4TsPzuxZtSIxuIukWBmi3Z AhigwBTVPVjFe8fSM6140Rk0R6BLetpYmD3ArBaZtEoUGa4ZY3a1J40IxgtkAagTqGXe w34qG8L4vLGZLKZiYxb6VpxRUL+5am3lAFBl8= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808290255t7c525c4fp71bfe59802de7585@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:55:36 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: danger, dirty midi guts topic In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: <46KA8C.A.x_E.Ye8tIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Zoe, I take it you are plugging MIDI cables into the MOTU and have the MOTU deliver the MIDI data in through the firewire port into the applications in the computer? When I was using a RME Multiface avoided this scenario for years because it created problems with zipper noise in my audio (not the same problem as you have, I know). Instead of scrambling MIDI and audio streaming in the firewire bus I was using a simple MIDI Link USB midi interface to get my MIDI input into the software world, thus leaving my audio interface to handle audio full time on the firewire bus. This solved my problem and the RME sounded excellent. Just an idea for a troubleshooting. Per On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:28 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: > I've been pursuing this on the Ableton forums, and thought I might as well > post here too... > > I wonder if anyone else has ever had this problem?? Its been going on for me > for a long, long time and I think I just found a clue! > > The backstory: > > - I am remotely controlling Live with a foot pedal, blah blah. > - The foot pedal is hooked up to a MOTU Ultralite. > - MOTU ultralite goes into MIDIPipe, MidiPipe goes into Live. > > 80% of the time, everything is hunky dory. Occasionally, when I start up the > MIDI is dead. I can see the midi signal flash on the LCD of the MOTU. > However, according to my trusty MidiMonitor, nothing is coming in on the > MOTU port, and in fact...the MOTU port doesn't show up when this occurs so > there is nothing to see. (clue) > > I can also get this to happen when, like a genius, I spontaneously edit and > recompile my AppleScripts right before going onstage. That means quitting > and restarting MIDIPipe. When I do this, invariably my MIDI input is dead. > (clue) > > (I'm using the pedal to control external hardware and this I can always do > just fine. Good ol hardware. Again, messages are coming into MOTU according > to the LCD.) > > Seems like the problem has to be MOTU or Apple or MIDIPipe. I've been trying > to sort it out with MOTU for donkeys years. They blame Apple. No one at > Apple has ever responded, but the forums say MOTU. Nico, as far as I know, > doesn't respond anymore to MIDIPipe questions. > > The only thing that gets my MIDI back up is crazy, frantic powering off the > MOTU and rebooting my computer, (and WTF, order seems to matter) and its > always freaky to do onstage AND sometimes it doesn't work. I have to do it > twice. I can also never remember the correct order (MOTU - Computer - > MIDIPipe) in these situations. I dread this more than anything. > > Well, it just happened again, and I looked in my console. (why didn't I > look before??!) > > There is this error: MIDIServer crashed > And indeed, the MIDIServer crash log is full of stuff, from every time I > have this problem!! > > This is the best clue yet. But I have no idea what to do with it. > > Does anyone have any suggestions what to do next? > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 12:27:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A19B83BE8A; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1220012868; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=hGD3xuJdg2KF6aTwciziGf515hU=; b=VNxF6jO2kqFr9qfa6ipu4G3mMmvgkwsaHXn7CU+P/uGLmveGSL0GAXdy1uq4wVN0 SinzVR/HOhs1cXRoPpPYcBg6RgEBSG3OSCsqaXAhXlILtEBZlY7IbUXlDB74Xt80; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=deKM-WJZAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=dq9X9b-8rr9-Io--0KkA:9 a=DdIIHddgayutOskf6R0A:7 a=-scS1AWocmTtrdmx5Ty14DB_Rt4A:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001d01c909d2$a5776fe0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <48B72819.4020404@Verizon.net> <66f9cc1e0808282321l1375dd36sf316ee2918448bd4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:27:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Maybe Nigel could tell ya. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akaD9v460yI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:21 AM Subject: Re: AW: elec gtr setup - to simplify > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Dan Ash wrote: >> I'm not sure whether this dimension of the discussion has been >> highlighted > >> Finally, I'm working on a laptop solution which will eventually eliminate >> the hardware-based modeling amp - Amplitube II seems to be as good as any >> of >> them and I got a license for stupid-cheep. > > --> On software > I too like AmpliTube II and use it regularly. But I would rather say > it has a distinct sound of its own! The Jimi Hendrix edition and the > Metal edition are very different though. Some guitarist friends I > respect say that Eleven (RTAS plug-in for Pro Tools) "is even better". > I have not tried Eleven myself and I'm not sure what they mean by > that, maybe they simply mean that you can simulate more classic rigs > with Eleven, and that I know is true. I have also tried NI Guitar Rig, > but personally I prefer the sound of AmplitTube II JH. For recording > production I can sometimes have good results with Guitar Amp Pro of > Logic's, but not yet as a live solution. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Received: by 10.90.30.2 with SMTP id d2mr3365510agd.118.1220018746582; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.28.20 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <500f5b870808290705h62a951ffr397f39d3012fb16@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:05:46 -0700 From: "william uba" Reply-To: brr.paul.adams@gmail.com Subject: Contact Him Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19530_25042921.1220018746576" To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=_Part_19530_25042921.1220018746576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear Friend, It is my pleasure to reach you after our unsuccessful attempt on our business transaction,I am obliged to inform you that I have succeeded in receiving the funds with the help of a new partner from Paraguay Mr Fernando Alvaro Gomez, Everything was perfectly done because we strike a deal with one of the Lady Accountant who works with the Ghana Ministry of Finance (G.M.F) in Accra Ghana. I have decided to compensate you with the sum of $US850,000,00. Eight Hundred and Fifty Thousand United States Dollars in a Cashier's Cheque. This is from my own share I did this simply to show appreciation to you for your kind support. Presently I am in Paraguay for investment project with my own share under the advice of my new partner.I will be sending you e-mail from time to time to know if you have received your own share or not In the light of the above. You are therefore to contact my lawyer barrister Paul Adams and do send him your contact address where you want the Cheque to be sent to you, His e-mail address is: brr.paul.adams@gmail.com Please do let me know immediately you receive it so that we can share the joy together after all the suffering at that time In the moment I am very busy here in Asuncion the capital city of Paraguay because of the investment projects which the new partner and I are having at hand So feel free to get in touch with him to send your cheque to you without any delay. With My Best Regards, Prof.William Uba. ------=_Part_19530_25042921.1220018746576 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Dear Friend,

    It is my pleasure to reach you after our unsuccessful attempt on our business transaction,I am obliged to inform you that I have succeeded in receiving the funds with the help of a new partner from Paraguay Mr Fernando Alvaro Gomez, Everything was perfectly done because we strike a deal with one of the Lady Accountant who works with the Ghana Ministry of Finance (G.M.F) in Accra Ghana.

    I have decided to compensate you with the sum of $US850,000,00. Eight Hundred and Fifty Thousand United States Dollars in a Cashier's Cheque. This is from my own share I did this simply to show appreciation to you for your kind support.

    Presently I am in Paraguay for investment project with my own share under the advice of my new partner.I will be sending you e-mail from time to time to know if you have received your own share or not In the light of the above.

    You are therefore to contact my lawyer barrister Paul Adams and do send him your contact address where you want the Cheque to be sent to you, His e-mail address is: brr.paul.adams@gmail.com

    Please do let me know immediately you receive it so that we can share the joy together after all the suffering at that time In the moment I am very busy here in Asuncion the capital city of Paraguay because of the investment projects which the new partner and I are having at hand So feel free to get in touch with him to send your cheque to you without any delay.

    With My Best Regards,

    Prof.William Uba.
    ------=_Part_19530_25042921.1220018746576-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 14:22:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AB093BE8D; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48B80628.4000009@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:22:32 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: cello for airports, moved to terminal 1 References: <245746.2569.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:22:38 +0000 (UTC) You're beating Yo-Yo Ma's recording of the cello suites!! congrats... MOMAstore schmomastore, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > to make up for it...my cd is #1 in itunes classical today. so someone > out there likes it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 14:41:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D88EB3BE86; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:32:08 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: LD CD 3 German review To: Nico Spahni , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <002701c909e5$68918da0$39237245@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Mw9f9yqnPtA3lbG3nFc+Hg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <7187EB1E-AF23-4EDA-9A80-1FCF26F663D5@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Mw9f9yqnPtA3lbG3nFc+Hg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thanks so much, Nico, for the translation. I'd love to see the entire = text translated. In the meantime, I've copied your translated paragraph, = and bumblingly translated the paragraph regarding my own contribution = (using Babelfish, I think it was, and my own rudimentary knowledge of = German), and added them both to my web site. Unabashed hucksterism: You can BUY a copy of Loopers Delight Vol. 3, as = well as my own carefully hand-crafted looping CD, at my web site. Here's = the link: http://www.thecoyote.org/cds.cfm=20 Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.TheCoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "Nikola Tesla is the fifth Beatle." - Taylor Baldwin, 11 It's a very good review indeed. Here's an off-the-cuff translation of = the conclusion: Those truly interested in ambient who are looking for a multi-faceted = documentary sound selection should get =84V.A. =96 Looper=92s Delight = Compilation Voume 3=93. Unlike in other compilation, there=92s no = filling-up with rejects here. Instead, real lights that shine clearly = and brightly on the ambient sky are stringed together. In my view, a = purchase is compulsory for those who collect musical treasures from the = underground. Cheers from Switzerland Nico= --Boundary_(ID_Mw9f9yqnPtA3lbG3nFc+Hg) Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
    Thanks so much, Nico, for the translation. I'd love = to see the=20 entire text translated. In the meantime, I've copied your translated = paragraph,=20 and bumblingly translated the paragraph regarding my own contribution = (using=20 Babelfish, I think it was, and my own rudimentary knowledge of German), = and=20 added them both to my web site.
     
    Unabashed hucksterism: You can BUY a copy of Loopers = Delight=20 Vol. 3, as well as my own carefully hand-crafted looping CD, at my web = site.=20 Here's the link: http://www.thecoyote.org/cds.cf= m 
     
    Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large
    www.TheCoyote.org
    coyotelk@optonline.net    <= /DIV>
     
    "Nikola Tesla is the fifth Beatle."
    - Taylor = Baldwin,=20 11

    It's=20 a very good review indeed. Here's an off-the-cuff translation of the=20 conclusion:

    Those truly interested in ambient who are = looking for=20 a multi-faceted documentary sound selection should get =84V.A. =96 = Looper=92s=20 Delight Compilation Voume 3=93. Unlike in other compilation, there=92s = no=20 filling-up with rejects here. Instead, real lights that shine clearly = and=20 brightly on the ambient sky are stringed together. In my view, a = purchase is=20 compulsory for those who collect musical treasures from the=20 underground.

    Cheers from Switzerland

    Nico
    --Boundary_(ID_Mw9f9yqnPtA3lbG3nFc+Hg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 15:00:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91E103BE8D; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/4ZbE/bfr4mYN7nQUsAkU3HhnR43EiJWABi/ibQQ W47eScundHeB7s In-Reply-To: <002701c909e5$68918da0$39237245@oemcomputer> References: <7187EB1E-AF23-4EDA-9A80-1FCF26F663D5@gmx.net> <002701c909e5$68918da0$39237245@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--950815490 Message-Id: <10DF25B7-9F31-42D4-B1CA-B0550C37A4E8@gmx.net> From: Nico Spahni Subject: Re: LD CD 3 German review Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:00:36 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.62,0.62 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:00:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--950815490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Douglas My translation wasn't too bad then (not too German sounding). And you =20= seem to have gotten your part about right, too. Cheers Nico Am 29.08.2008 um 16:32 schrieb Douglas Baldwin: > Thanks so much, Nico, for the translation. I'd love to see the =20 > entire text translated. In the meantime, I've copied your =20 > translated paragraph, and bumblingly translated the paragraph =20 > regarding my own contribution (using Babelfish, I think it was, and =20= > my own rudimentary knowledge of German), and added them both to my =20 > web site. > > Unabashed hucksterism: You can BUY a copy of Loopers Delight Vol. =20 > 3, as well as my own carefully hand-crafted looping CD, at my web =20 > site. Here's the link:http://www.thecoyote.org/cds.cfm > > Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large > www.TheCoyote.org > coyotelk@optonline.net > > "Nikola Tesla is the fifth Beatle." > - Taylor Baldwin, 11 > > It's a very good review indeed. Here's an off-the-cuff translation =20 > of the conclusion: > > Those truly interested in ambient who are looking for a multi-=20 > faceted documentary sound selection should get =84V.A. =96 Looper=92s =20= > Delight Compilation Voume 3=93. Unlike in other compilation, there=92s = =20 > no filling-up with rejects here. Instead, real lights that shine =20 > clearly and brightly on the ambient sky are stringed together. In =20 > my view, a purchase is compulsory for those who collect musical =20 > treasures from the underground. > > Cheers from Switzerland > > Nico --Apple-Mail-1--950815490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Hi Douglas

    My translation wasn't too bad then (not = too German sounding). And you seem to have gotten your part about right, = too.

    Cheers

    Nico



    Am 29.08.2008 um 16:32 = schrieb Douglas Baldwin:

    Thanks so = much, Nico, for the translation. I'd love to see the entire text = translated. In the meantime, I've copied your translated paragraph, and = bumblingly translated the paragraph regarding my own contribution (using = Babelfish, I think it was, and my own rudimentary knowledge of German), = and added them both to my web site.
    =A0
    Unabashed hucksterism: = You can BUY a copy of Loopers Delight Vol. 3, as well as my own = carefully hand-crafted looping CD, at my web site. Here's the link:http://www.thecoyote.org/cds.cfm= =A0
    =A0
    Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large
    www.TheCoyote.org
    coyotelk@optonline.net
    =A0
    "Nikola Tesla is the fifth = Beatle."
    - Taylor Baldwin, = 11

    It's a very good review = indeed. Here's an off-the-cuff translation of the = conclusion:

    Those truly = interested in ambient who are looking for a multi-faceted documentary = sound selection should get =84V.A. =96 Looper=92s Delight Compilation = Voume 3=93. Unlike in other compilation, there=92s no filling-up with = rejects here. Instead, real lights that shine clearly and brightly on = the ambient sky are stringed together. In my view, a purchase is = compulsory for those who collect musical treasures from the = underground.

    Cheers from Switzerland

    Nico

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When it crashes it becomes what us geeks call a "zombie process" and it doesn't completely die until you terminate all the other processes that were communicating with it. So you'll have to bring down Live, MIDIPipe, and MidiMonitor, pause for reflection, then bring them back up. As to why this happens I can't say. MOTU is usually pretty good about Mac drivers so the first place I'd look is MIDIPipe. Is it doing something you can live without? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 17:21:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 399EF3BE88; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:21:26 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808290255t7c525c4fp71bfe59802de7585@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080829172126.32730@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0808290255t7c525c4fp71bfe59802de7585@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: danger, dirty midi guts topic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19MB3lBbU9Mz1YYuiLgbBUzGjQ6bnlbGw7jW9bU3H vZX5AiPVaXRfPEGNWhs2yPR9hrN1za+860Xw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: JAmAffV/bmwoXttpkzZLQtNPUzc4cpFd Resent-Message-ID: <-Lacp.A.CuG.YADuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi Zoe > using a simple MIDI Link USB midi interface to get my MIDI input into the software world, > thus leaving my audio interface to handle audio full time on the firewire bus That would be also my first intuition, so I second Per's approach. Then, it would be to try to nail down a "best practice" for booting order & timing (i.e. wait x seconds...). You might really want to come up with an exact "coreography" that you repeat each time. Just to be on the safe side. For the software environment, it would be best to have a designated hard drive/image/OS instance only for live looping performances that you reset before _every_ performance. This should make the environment as reliable as possible. Good luck with your setup. It's not really fun rebooting when you're standing in front of a crowd. So, I keep my fingers crossed! :-) Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 18:41:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CBAF3BE82; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=sLaLYASNdse3HA9kSdflrBYFkWrhHYTe65C4zNGrwEcYP4XRQH1ttgTVfiOUaOZg9glumMX6yuA7suU8MgcLbEyIDPCZ1J1HJYygus79LvzcaI6XNvofPprQ2kQx75oN9ZUAgEHfKmHAqNoVq89S4l10hpg0caRl12ocYDVizwA=; X-YMail-OSG: ObK1_MAVM1nTS78ljJIi_1uuN_UugojJ9otqX.5GdxXexyzJOwtyJ7KoXxMQ.pRcAP1zDOSguaeG4rQYbpKfc7dU.ikzqgie2crQuF16D_v8bUJfy0AfY5uzlpC46YY- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:40:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:M13 has arrived To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <5411.47542.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9id0o.A.Dy.8KEuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Thanx a lot for the tips,so which compressor limiter are u using? Oh man the difference between the M13 and Eventide delays are enorm!the eventide delays are crystal clear and a lot more defined than the the M13 delays or any other ive heard ,however i also like the low fi emulations delays of line6, they have a character of their own! i dont know if ive sent you the link to my performance at the cologne looping festival,anyway here you can hear the feedback sound of the eventide,i had gotten it a day before so i stuck to this one sound for the whole performance,i was not very relaxed because of the technical problems i had at the very beginning.I edited the video and mixed some images because i thought seeing me shoegazing only can be a bit boring:-D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfN74e8HO5A cheers Luis > LP1 it's sits between the pre-looper and the LP1, so > > instrument -> pre-looper/delay -> comp/lim -> > looper -> DI/mixer -> PA > > This also allows you to loop self-resonating stuff without > overdriving the inputs of the LP1 plus your input level will > be more consistent. You have to be carefull though with high > compression ratio's when using acoustic instruments like > guitar or piano. I use levels of 1:2 for > "acoustic" stuff and 1:4 when using drums and bass > sounds. > > > Ill be posting the live performance soon so you can > see it in action. > > Thats the first time i used it! > > Yes, I remember you told me that you used the Eventide for > the first time. The public didn't even notice the > problems you were having, your sound was good :) > > Btw: how would you describe the difference in character of > the M13 delay and the Eventide? > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 19:00:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3E513BE93; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48B84738.7060705@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:00:08 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: labaloops@yahoo.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: M13 has arrived References: <5411.47542.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <5411.47542.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Really well done music and video, Luis! Those images are intense... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > i dont know if ive sent you the link to my performance at the cologne looping festival,anyway here you can hear the feedback sound of the eventide,i had gotten it a day before so i stuck to this one sound for the whole performance,i was not very relaxed because of the technical problems i had at the very beginning.I edited the video and mixed some images because i thought seeing me shoegazing only can be a bit boring:-D > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfN74e8HO5A > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 19:02:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B4093BEA9; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMuZMmW/n Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: M13 has arrived Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:02:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <5411.47542.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AckKBsiyRdfhoZ/RTam/85/HA2c6hwAAuP3g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: <13P8rD.A.UiB.teEuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:02:05 +0000 (UTC) > Oh man the difference between the M13 and Eventide delays are > enorm!the eventide delays are crystal clear and a lot more > defined than the the M13 delays or any other ive heard What does it mean if a delay is "defined"? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 19:14:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C1343BEA0; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=c3mYzKTq3ZxR7T9nCvFt7CzMl9fiEGqdmWPHk7lUmiHW1rux1Euoi/QoHIX24fCHCzydg3nZMYPE4HpftvqOsHsc9X+ceeDG78VKFQK0s60KS9lAZOK+Y6Q0i3VwI5ffZllLbNVkAuMcQKQVgD4cM3TppMrE01cq4kaham1G0tY=; X-YMail-OSG: 11wUOiAVM1m2FZ862nSMyKqWbbQ1t3xWDw9XsodgicUkUDSjdZb4Og8rfZuJCYjDhrkktsZkJJR6UxJKakHJ1X_NntHCWsolTmFc6UQT0p.O5BffNUGDcnNZUM2t5k6IntdCtvIPCposbRo1591u.RZg X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: AW: M13 has arrived To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <128250.88219.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:14:44 +0000 (UTC) to me it has a lot more definiton and is not so "muddy" sort of speak cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill > Subject: AW: M13 has arrived > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 12:02 PM > > Oh man the difference between the M13 and Eventide > delays are > > enorm!the eventide delays are crystal clear and a lot > more > > defined than the the M13 delays or any other ive heard > > > What does it mean if a delay is "defined"? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 29 19:16:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A80343BEBA; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=DDf2M5h/PJYMh6WOr357H2EZmnK89sQ/Cwatl+tNPszocjJPAZvjz9bak00k52LBKJTUbYgmSJypcrOUZ2eS4O1kDOd2sUcQrvwA8owtAlPO9ejZNYF9DJX1XbRHWRTWApH4w0WLHIs/QVUQHzGEufDxI3rO9XX3LDLjdEkrSdc=; X-YMail-OSG: lU_2gzEVM1kyAXJeFDcP.ADQtqobOa6woHBgM7DJrfNBOOzKLm.MTMC95BqiLkwO43cYijE1VBcpnTgsFn7NNLZHfap4M5xBx7qLHAlPk0HnuiEZFBie42dpCoizZNw- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:16:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: M13 has arrived To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48B84738.7060705@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <880493.89950.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:16:32 +0000 (UTC) thank you kindly Daryl! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Re: M13 has arrived > To: labaloops@yahoo.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 12:00 PM > Really well done music and video, Luis! > > Those images are intense... > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > i dont know if ive sent you the link to my performance > at the cologne looping festival,anyway here you can hear the > feedback sound of the eventide,i had gotten it a day before > so i stuck to this one sound for the whole performance,i was > not very relaxed because of the technical problems i had at > the very beginning.I edited the video and mixed some images > because i thought seeing me shoegazing only can be a bit > boring:-D > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfN74e8HO5A > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 00:37:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 312393BE84; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_1431777654020487 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:37:27 -0500 Subject: re: video on loop turntablism From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:37:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_1431777654020487 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0AThough I have been told that turntablism is just a passing curi= osity to most of the people on this list ..... I though I would post this a= nyway since it makes me super happy.=0D=0A=0D=0AI just got an MAUDIO Xponen= t ...... one of several midi devices to have come out recently for DJs ....= it is meant to model a typical DJ setup ..... that is, two turntables and = a crossfader, among other things.=0D=0A=0D=0AI was excited to try using it = with my own software, and very excited when it worked right away (that neve= r happens in the computer programming universe ..... so it was a nice thril= l to not have to rewrite a bunch of code).=0D=0A=0D=0AAnyway, I have been v= ery happy with the results and loving recording different sets of loops and= then placing them on the turntables and scratching them ........ =0D=0A=0D= =0ASo if that is the kind of thing that tickles anyones brains ... check ou= t the video on youtube:=0D=0A=0D=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5ubT54d= uGB8=0D=0A=0D=0Aor on the website www.flyloops.com=0D=0A=0D=0ANot too artsy= ... since it is made as a commercial, more or less, for DJ/musicians .....= but hey ..... it still should give you an idea of what I mean. Quite a fu= n new toy .... and I am glad to think that there can't be many other people= out there that get to record loops live .... then scratch them immediately= ..... though I guess most people aren't really interested in scratching.= =0D=0A=0D=0AAnyway, send me feedback if you like.=0D=0A=0D=0AAaron=0D=0A=0D= =0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_1431777654020487 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Though I have been told that turntablism is just a passing curiosit= y to most of the people on this list ..... I though I would post this anywa= y since it makes me super happy.

    I just got an MAUDIO Xponent ......= one of several midi devices to have come out recently for DJs .... it is m= eant to model a typical DJ setup ..... that is, two turntables and a crossf= ader, among other things.

    I was excited to try using it with my own = software, and very excited when it worked right away (that never happens in= the computer programming universe ..... so it was a nice thrill to not hav= e to rewrite a bunch of code).

    Anyway, I have been very happy with t= he results and loving recording different sets of loops and then placing th= em on the turntables and scratching them ........

    So if that is the= kind of thing that tickles anyones brains ... check out the video on youtu= be:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5ubT54duGB8

    or on the we= bsite www.flyloops.com

    Not too artsy ... since it is made as a comme= rcial, more or less, for DJ/musicians ..... but hey ..... it still should g= ive you an idea of what I mean.  Quite a fun new toy .... and I am gla= d to think that there can't be many other people out there that get to reco= rd loops live .... then scratch them immediately ..... though I guess most = people aren't really interested in scratching.

    Anyway, send me feedb= ack if you like.

    Aaron




    ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_1431777654020487-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 00:54:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1427A3BE87; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:52:59 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #595 for August 21, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48B899EB.4020203@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:54:11 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080828.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #595 August 28, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Frank Van Bogaert. The Featured CD at Midnight was Nomads on Groove Unlimited. Frank Van Bogaert: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#aug PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) W. A. de Phul 1st Sunlight When Aliens Meet a Drop of Water (Manikin) W. A. de Phul Endless Blue WAMaDoW (Manikin) W. A. de Phul Into the Thunder WAMaDoW (Manikin) Mahoney and Peck Flight of the The Gallery of Subtle Smiles Nexxus Swan (none) Alpha Wave Movement Surrender & Flow Terra (HRR) Darshan Ambient Slowly Toward the From Pale Hands To Weary Skies North (Lotuspike) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Frank Van Bogaert Overture Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Crack the Blue Sky Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Nomads Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Furious Jam Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Aquatopia Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert High Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Mont Blanc Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Drive Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Blue Down There Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Ritual Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Heat Nomads (Groove) Frank Van Bogaert Beneath the Ice Nomads (Groove) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Keller and Schonwalder. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from Concerts on Manikin Records. Keller and Schonwalder: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#sep Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy.asx http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy2.ram To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 02:34:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 525B53BE84; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 357 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:34:03 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 458631.80413.bm@omp103.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=QZbQp85YgORAYLpdPHtQnTf/uyAHDB0lVd8Qd4br2rZTZ90VOf29eqvdk2m4EriC18ZD7bDYcuMFYdlz7YIKE4kUN6O0YYUF+2NpGaTTFxDnGTH4SgR4P+JusU0HGzIjghCESCcX3Lohes+bHKvvsMStE3d+IeNvc3+RuHfKQWA=; X-YMail-OSG: FbQzkPkVM1mIE_pdi6xDeLAsMRJkb7SN72ym2sP_94jxQ_wa_ORm05.dA1IBPMMDteHdb4fbShGgMYh3.tIqjQ4pXBjGo7zYcsDBb7qL2g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.48 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:28:06 -0700 (PDT) From: J Z Subject: getting clean live loops - technique To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-634855869-1220063286=:17409" Message-ID: <368736.17409.qm@web59902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:34:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-634855869-1220063286=:17409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings fellow loopers, this is my first post and I have a question regarding looping technique. I use the LP1. When I was learning to loop (on my DL4) I was consistently cutting off the beginning of my loops, resulting in a slightly shortened sound on the first beat of the loop and sometimes even a pop/click sound (but still on beat). So I learned to begin my loops on a beat other than the 1, wherever there was a break in the sound for a moment. So in a two bar loop, I might begin the loop an eighth note before the first beat of the first bar and end it an eighth note before the end of the second bar. So it is stll a two-bar loop in length, but the loop start/end point is not on the 1 (at a quiet/silent part of the loop), so I get a clean loop. However, as my loop pedal has gotten more complex, so have my arrangements, and I am starting to run into issues with my loop start/end points not being on the 1, and I am considering changing my technique. So my question is what do you all do for the problem of the beginning of the loop being cut off? Do I just need to practice more? Are there other people that use my technique of starting the loop on a beat other than the 1? Any info would be appreciated. I apologize if this has been covered but it did not come up in my searches. --0-634855869-1220063286=:17409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
    Greetings fellow loopers, this is my first post and I have a question regarding looping technique.  I use the LP1.  When I was learning to loop (on my DL4) I was consistently cutting off the beginning of my loops, resulting in a slightly shortened sound on the first beat of the loop and sometimes even a pop/click sound (but still on beat).  So I learned to begin my loops on a beat other than the 1, wherever there was a break in the sound for a moment.  So in a two bar loop, I might begin the loop an eighth note before the first beat of the first bar and end it an eighth note before the end of the second bar.  So it is stll a two-bar loop in length, but the loop start/end point is not on the 1 (at a quiet/silent part of the loop), so I get a clean loop.

    However, as my loop pedal has gotten more complex, so have my arrangements, and I am starting to run into issues with my loop start/end points not being on the 1, and I am considering changing my technique.  So my question is what do you all do for the problem of the beginning of the loop being cut off?  Do I just need to practice more?  Are there other people that use my technique of starting the loop on a beat other than the 1?  Any info would be appreciated.  I apologize if this has been covered but it did not come up in my searches.


    --0-634855869-1220063286=:17409-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 03:09:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 482D73BE87; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=pT+rBd4I/cdMMdJ1skPvtvO6D/O4+P1/5LFAqEFhBPTNnyqS806x733Bw/RSTd6xFKAhawRsOqxC+kL3FQymgb25wkMXTVe41CKG0tIfAHC16U12oxR60bKrFo9sa2vr; Message-ID: <20080829220932.ve5og6mpawwc4gow@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:09:32 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: getting clean live loops - technique References: <368736.17409.qm@web59902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <368736.17409.qm@web59902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Quoting J Z : > > So my question is what do you all do for the problem of the > beginning of the loop being cut off? > Hi, and welcome. You didn't say what instrument you play. The attack characteristics of your instrument could influence your approach here. If you instrument has a fast attack -- say a percussion instrument, guitar, or piano then you could spend some time to coordinate your foot-pedal press with your starting note so that the first beat and the start of the loop are in the same place. (I'm assuming you use a footpedal to send midi messages to the LP1). Another technique is to play on beat 2 of your loop... then play beat 1 when you switch to overdub mode. I use this technique quite a bit. Also, check our noise-gate settings on the LP1. If the threshold is too loud then the start of your note may be cut off, too. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 03:46:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5899D3BE88; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=rJhkDBGP2DaC1S1aMkYA:9 a=R66_h1KEWErh6UIAF9J8t-3n3tMA:4 a=YK0chgCeDBsA:10 a=WemvbAGu8TtgXaeP0K0A:9 a=cDq-_pjSvXqRUAU33iE_AARUcBEA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808290255t7c525c4fp71bfe59802de7585@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0808290255t7c525c4fp71bfe59802de7585@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--904838055 Message-Id: From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: danger, dirty midi guts topic Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:46:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:46:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--904838055 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed per, that's a great suggestion thanks. i hadn't thought to move the MIDI to a dedicated interface. i will try that! On Aug 29, 2008, at 2:55 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Zoe, > > I take it you are plugging MIDI cables into the MOTU and have the MOTU > deliver the MIDI data in through the firewire port into the > applications in the computer? When I was using a RME Multiface avoided > this scenario for years because it created problems with zipper noise > in my audio (not the same problem as you have, I know). Instead of > scrambling MIDI and audio streaming in the firewire bus I was using a > simple MIDI Link USB midi interface to get my MIDI input into the > software world, thus leaving my audio interface to handle audio full > time on the firewire bus. This solved my problem and the RME sounded > excellent. Just an idea for a troubleshooting. > > Per --Apple-Mail-2--904838055 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII per, that's a great suggestion thanks. i hadn't thought to move the MIDI = to a dedicated interface. i will try that!

    On Aug 29, = 2008, at 2:55 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

    Zoe,


    I take it you are plugging MIDI cables into the MOTU and = have the MOTU

    deliver the MIDI data in through the firewire port into = the

    applications in the computer? When I was using a RME Multiface = avoided

    this scenario for years because it created problems with zipper = noise

    in my audio (not the same problem as you have, I know). Instead = of

    scrambling MIDI and audio streaming in the firewire bus I was = using a

    simple MIDI Link USB midi interface to get my MIDI input into = the

    software world, thus leaving my audio interface to handle audio = full

    time on the firewire bus. This solved my problem and the RME = sounded

    excellent. Just an idea for a troubleshooting.


    Per

    =

    = --Apple-Mail-2--904838055-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 04:16:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5039E3BE88; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9D8F6F46184348E7B698C3107D60B65F@williamsteed> References: <9D8F6F46184348E7B698C3107D60B65F@williamsteed> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:16:34 +0900 To: , From: Mech Subject: Re: VG99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:16:42 +0000 (UTC) At 11:23 PM -0700 8/28/08, William Walker wrote: > So would any one on this list who owns this beast care to shed >some light on it. Is it easy to get around on? How's the manual? Oh >its Roland, need I ask? How is the modeling? Can you get a dynamic >clean sound ala' blackface, can you get a singing sweet women tone > type overdrive with it? I haven't used my GR30 guitar synth in over >2 years but I'm wondering if this beast might get me interested in >guitar synthesizer and elaborate effects usage again. I'm also >fascinated with the possibilities of altered tuning the VG99 offers. >Thoughts? Anyone? Bill, first I just want to apologize again that I didn't get a chance like I promised to bring mine over to your place after the LY2k7 Looper's Brunch, so that you could give it a runthrough. With a sick wife sleeping back in the car, I just couldn't take out any more time (not to mention I missed Matthias' demo as well -- drat!). Regardless, gomenaisai! That said, you gotta try one of these out. First, let's get the more disappointing part out of the way: amps. It's still not a tube amp, even though it's got some of the best sounding models out there. Some of the models, like the Fenders and Rolands do sound outstandingly good, but you're just not going to get that kind of push/pull interaction of a real tube (there's a Dynamic function which might be used to emulate it, but I've never really gelled with the feel of that). As far as that high-pitched digital graininess you've mentioned in the past, I'm not hearing it in any of the amp models here, but I couldn't really make that out in my Tonelab either. I'm curious to hear your take once you hear one. Also, the amps squash the stereo imaging of the individual strings on the COSM models down to mono (what?!? why???). Since you've got two completely separate guitar modellers in one box, you can get around that by making them identical then panning one hard right and the other hard left. But then you've used both modellers just to get a stereo effect. :P I usually use the amp models more for tonal shaping/EQ (or as distortion "stompboxes") than as real amps, although the Fender and Vox models are quite nice on clean stuff. I know more than one person who is using the multiple outputs to "split" into a clean feed run straight to the board and a line out to a small tube amp. I do that only because unfortunately there are no models in the VG of the strange gated boutique fuzzes that I enjoy so much (Devi Ever, Lastgasp Art Labs, etc.) so I just put them in a separate line before a small external amp. Second, and final caveat, the presets on this thing just blow for the most part. When I first got it, I didn't think they were so bad. But as you dive deeper and see just how cool this box is, the factory presets just become more and more lame by comparison. Aside from only about a half-dozen factory patches, Roland really should feel ashamed at publishing such crap to show off the box. Maybe it'll get a few more of them sold to the "big hair" guys, but please don't judge the capabilities of the box solely on a scroll those. Okay, with that out of the way, the best point is that the quality of the instrument modelling is amazing. I've also got a Variax 300, and I've barely picked it up since getting the VG-99 -- the Roland just leaves the Line 6 in the dust. Not only do most of the models sound like what they're supposed to, they also have enough "stretch" to sound really interesting when you're building completely new (as in "not on this earth") instruments. Ethnic and folk instruments (sitar, dobro, mandolin) are no problem. The synth models are very good as well (even if I do still miss VIO from the original VG-8). The GR-300 is very, very cool, but -- to answer the inevitable question from the owners here of the original -- it's not the real thing. Still, I've never even had an opportunity to purchase a real GR-300, so if I find a model that'll get me 90% there, I'm happy. Finally, if one model doesn't work well with what you're trying to do, there's a good chance that you can find another one that will work better -- even if that's not what it was originally designed for. For instance, when the P-bass and J-bass models let me down, I was able to make a great sounding upright bass by tuning the Nylon Guitar down an octave and playing it on my fretless guitar. Speaking of tuning, the alternate tuning section is fantastic. You can retune any string on any model (aside: GR-300 can get a little weird here) to plus or minus ~36 steps, IIRC. While you get some munchkinization at the extremes, it's pretty amazing how far you can go before it starts sounding unnatural. Then, there's a polyphonic 12-string effect that you can add to the alternate tuning, so you can easily do things like a 12-string DADGAD. Also, the 12-string section doesn't have to be limited to octaves; you can tune the harmony voice on each string to any interval you wish. Next there's a Detune section that will allow you to add thickness to each string individually (BTW, you can also detune inside the 12-string section without even having to go here). Finally, there's a intelligent polyphonic harmonizer that can be used to retune individual notes to match a particular scale/mode (i.e. +3rd Mixolydian, for example). That latter effect doesn't sound too useful at first, until you take into account that YOU CAN SET UP COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ALTERNATE TUNINGS ON EACH OF THE TWO GUITAR MODELS. So, you could leave one model at a standard tuning, then use the intelligent harmonizer to keep the harmony voice in whatever key you've chosen. Or you could do this with two completely different 12-strings... with one set to Nashville tuning and the other tuned down like a Baritone... oh, and now let's make one a dobro and the other a synth... So yeah, f you thought there might be enough in just the alternate tuning section alone to keep you entertained for days, you'd be right. Next, the polyphonic effects are outstanding. Of couse, poly hex fuzz is always lovely, but I'm surprised at how useful the poly compressor is. And, everybody's favorite, they've finally fixed the polyphonic Slow Gear effect so that it works pretty flawlessly. You can get some beautiful swells by setting the fade-in time long, then individually swelling and holding each string as you pick them. My only regret here is A: do to CPU restrictions, you can only apply poly effects to one of the two models at a time; and B: there are some effects in the regular effects section that would have made fantastic poly effects, like de-fretter and intelligent ring-modulation. I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time going through the Effects section. Suffice to say that there's a truckload of them, they can be put into almost any order you like, and they sound good. I will mention that if you are impressed by your brother Rick's new Slicer, that there are potentially four of them in here (two for each available model/effects chain). Also, you can route your mags through the Effects and COSM Amp sections, as well as any external device you can plug into the "Normal Guitar" input on the back. Also, the VG really shines with the availability of EQ and Gain Staging at a half dozen different points on the chain at least. This includes within the model or mag inputs themselves, all the way through to the final EQ on the mixer, and an output EQ that can be used to tailor the whole box for a particular live venue. This flexibility is especially important when doing clean sound design. My only gripe here is that the EQ is a graphic, and I would've really liked to see some parametric functionality built in. Finally, he various controls you have are pretty impressive too. Not only are the D-Beam and Ribbon Controller fun to play with, but you can set up just about any function you like for footpedal control (this is especially easy with the FC-300, which is very plug-&-play). Even if you use a different foot controller, the assignments are dead simple, and there's even a computer editor you can use to program everything if you're so inclined. MIDI is okay. I don't use it much (spoiled by the tracking on my Yamaha G-10) but I've heard people say that the tracking is not as good as the GI-20. The one handy thing that I do use it for is to record both raw MIDI as well as the audio from the VG simultaneously. Later, if I want to double-track another part with the guitar, all I have to pull up that pre-recorded MIDI track and feed it into a soft synth or other MIDI sound source. Or additionally, if I'm improvising and later have no clue what notes I actually played on a part (yeah, happens a whole lot more often than I'd like to admit) I can pull up the MIDI file and read the notes. However, there's one more nice little surprise hidden in the control section: the Wave Pedal. Roland has implemented a function generator that can be effectively used either as a "one-shot" control, or as an LFO. This can be routed to pretty much any function on the box, and you can think of it as having an invisible friend with magic fingers who can move any of the dials in real time as you play. You could, for instance, route a square-wave from the LFO to the Alternate Tuning section, so that you're notes trill between the root and a fifth above. Then you can connect an expression pedal into the rate of the LFO, so that you can control the speed of the trill with your foot. That's just a very simple one, but there's a lot of really cool possibilities here. You can apply this same sort of function to almost any control on the box. Anyway, that's enough from me for the moment (wife's yelling at me to come run errands). Hope that gives you at least a little insight into this beastie. Bottom line is that it's very cool and sounds very good, and you really need to borrow one for a day or two and dive into it. I think you'd be really impressed. --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 04:55:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DC503BE88; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <85A6F3F1-81AE-455F-80A2-24A784B8E258@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: VG99 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:55:42 -0700 References: <9D8F6F46184348E7B698C3107D60B65F@williamsteed> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Does it have a Space Echo model? I've been tempted by the RE-20 pedal (which incidentally can sort of be used as a looper). Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 07:39:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F3D03BE8A; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48B8F948.6030506@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:39:52 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: audio to midi vst plugins References: <66f9cc1e0808260045x27df6effmce705e7e23211c01@mail.gmail.com> <60768.72.51.1219774309.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <60768.72.51.1219774309.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:39:55 +0000 (UTC) André Donawa schrieb: > Hi Per, > Thanks for the Melodyne update. > Hmmm... maybe on the next version. This is unlikely, as the whole concept of melodyne is editing, not even the slightest hint that it would ever go realtime. -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 07:43:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D04733BE8C; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48B8FA2F.2070108@addcom.de> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:43:43 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: audio to midi vst plugins References: <60511.69.73.1219707085.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <66f9cc1e0808260045x27df6effmce705e7e23211c01@mail.gmail.com> <20080826115359.19930@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0808260532u62b231a5oac49c159159396b0@mail.gmail.com> <20080827002938.90040@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080827002938.90040@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5iGiqC.A.QmB.woPuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Buzap Buzap schrieb: > Ok, fair enough question ;-) > Let me explain: > My crazy vision was to think through if it would be technically possible to > a) play a live audio loop > b) let melodyne etc. create a midi file out of it > c) have some tool harmonically / rhythmically analyze the midi file > d) let the computer play some generative music (i.e. with Noatkl) accompanying your live loop... You are asking for a Max/MSP solution. There are objects which can analyse your loop, store the result internally and process it further. Your concept is actually interesting, because latency won't be a problem there. Usually if you want to track pitch in realtime, there is latency. But if you analyse while recording and only need a result when the loop is recorded, this is much easier. Its somthing inbetween realtime and non-realtime... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 08:00:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D1083BE8A; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=j7H5yP8ANuC1prtAAEzh5o20idGM2Eb77Vg6JsjGjos=; b=ugvIKRlFbOJ5oFiStpmtY99gFMXwJUjTyCvEEuRxn6U6S8I3PxQxAq4arESvRGvlXK zlW2oQ6CpLNL/sRZHywHqUW3E5TAYRlIMJIzEwNEKt917wUmncQYqaxnPMhzG2yMxckW KvBfWEtSXTDUgpkprYRQs3vKaxbrNF0ZZ3eeM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=lQfrKI0lgrpGCvnkRPR9RxAfSHVpIYtWxHG9US6t8+UNOgFJTiWluOR1W3xuMJuHbc FNk9qk0GPr7ra/XaGS3B6YjOkrOP+4aEOmDqUXBFWJXWPxQgt2tsf7bWWXO3c5P/+lwJ 1Rqf8H03PVyhwgbcDBaJVR0gqeVaTwN1uHOxk= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00808300100u395e9883u8ca3f05be2e3a743@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:00:54 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: What midi controller do you guys use for your EDP? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27905_31140502.1220083254882" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:00:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_27905_31140502.1220083254882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm sure this question has been answered many times, based on the outrageous number of search results. I just want a controller that can replace my gibson one. I have a rolls midibuddy that I was using for sooperlooper, but it won't with the EDP. I want something simple and not too expensive, any suggestions? I really only stick to basic functions, and don't need to get too crazy with it. ------=_Part_27905_31140502.1220083254882 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I'm sure this question has been answered many times, based on the outrageous number of search results.

    I just want a controller that can replace my gibson one. I have a rolls midibuddy that I was using for sooperlooper, but it won't with the EDP. I want something simple and not too expensive, any suggestions? I really only stick to basic functions, and don't need to get too crazy with it.
    ------=_Part_27905_31140502.1220083254882-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 08:07:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D54973BE88; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=PxYS40hwsuX1wbzrEAfBqqn4Q/IYK9eRmfTg0jKPBqU=; b=IgzhG4Xjjo9q/ZTyTUSZlJeHZB8AV45PS6p4RY0fIP9zR3JkLgdbHOipQOlgF0oFIH IMnoDz1QQw1iQdP9M86gWumf4pbBE8ns2F6df2hIzHuKdBNbUpXJLJeok1/poRYVHAfr SHZIAn/5qHtXxEh6XE4kGt+qUV8T5amddMfsE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=eO3DJo6TVF0EdHgWGQD7xUXUMSCitkO7CgTmNbFJWvcaRa+9/WUdMXaDwYDXL6ZR0p dj+M25u+Tg4bRRiri9+IYXHOBzvR0wiGyPPrBOrP6odof7jW2okn3h5VXS/QrWEQTONZ RURoWndlwMTbJTNDJSUa4prJfbRzVPGSoWUzQ= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808300107v10b33eb0p88529bf113459239@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:07:56 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What midi controller do you guys use for your EDP? In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00808300100u395e9883u8ca3f05be2e3a743@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1c3a4db00808300100u395e9883u8ca3f05be2e3a743@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:07:57 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:00 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > I'm sure this question has been answered many times, based on the outrageous > number of search results. > > I just want a controller that can replace my gibson one. I have a rolls > midibuddy that I was using for sooperlooper, but it won't with the EDP. I > want something simple and not too expensive, any suggestions? I really only > stick to basic functions, and don't need to get too crazy with it. Since light weight and mobility are not listed among your wishes I think you would find the Behringer FCB1010 a good alternative. I'm on my second one now, my first lasted 5 years. I started using it for MIDI foot control over my EDP but today I use it for just about anything MIDI. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 08:52:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2AF03BE7F; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=i7sAgvZD99trGVrVOx9GlrzM90xrPLzFGCgDp8diAzI=; b=LpK+FNu1+jMxbM6Q6LUmpvABj7oJfklJANopF0Ut2B8RfcojKotMVu3/vD72SKOCHr vCRIlZ0Z8yLHoUkz1u8laOUdohkqrwWOLhNIQu9+FA5ioxX5d7bRncgVt8S7C/BsaJh8 fP1a8ZtDm+SRKL1DkMu1IBJbNYmq5e5iSfKH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=uaOtILdkKk/vU9AskhYh9Xnhzz/IqCVcbN/lm4T33Qanp6QFxLcp8JNdcGzmm7dHsU 0UIXj0BBGJqIENTQ48BHEU6+sRpbRYwimYhVOKc7NJ17s+qJM+3jOAzpKAjAnle8em0j I0C4n9eTzsnslcu9OmD/ewbSWxLdY0MS3vR4M= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808300152m1c96d48bxbcef701e44d93137@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:52:26 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: DJ techniques in live looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808300151s5524d91fxf81247fbf1e4a76d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808300151s5524d91fxf81247fbf1e4a76d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Aron, Thanks for posting this. The Xponent looks very cool! Nice video presentation BTW, it seems easy to work the thing. And it seems to hook up nicely with flyloops. I'm afraid the Xponent is not very suitable for me though, since I like to play different instruments while looping live and that keeps my hands quite occupied. Regarding scratching and turnrtablism I've actually seen a lot of that on this list. But most people use other physical control surfaces than "stuff that looks like hand controlled vinyl turntables". I think the most popular interfaces among musician loopists is the expression style foot pedal. I my looping setup I also duplicate foot pedal scratching with hand knobs to twist. Anther DJ technique I'm relying on in looping is the crossover mixer. I keep pre defined fades as scripts to be launched but pedal/button presses (can't take my hands off the instruments for too long you know) but in the EDP it's implemented as a direct jump between two loops - I think even with the option of arriving at sync point related to the other loop which is in praxis the same thing as having two beatsynced turntables going and quickly crossfading between them. The typical DJ filtering (punching in and out different slices of the frequency range) is something I use in other contexts and have been missing with my live looping rig (laptop running Mobius hosted in Bidule) but I just found a new VST plug-in that may finally help me out: http://www.geradorzero.com/2007/01/11/single-knob-filter-or-my-first-vst-worth-releasing/ It's Windows only and seems very good for what it is. A lot of digital looping gear (laptop dependent as well as hardware hosted) lack the option of filtering so I guess this free VST plug-in will come in handy for many loopists. per On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:37 AM, aaronleese@flyloops.com wrote: > > > Though I have been told that turntablism is just a passing curiosity to most > of the people on this list ..... I though I would post this anyway since it > makes me super happy. > > I just got an MAUDIO Xponent ...... one of several midi devices to have come > out recently for DJs .... it is meant to model a typical DJ setup ..... that > is, two turntables and a crossfader, among other things. > > I was excited to try using it with my own software, and very excited when it > worked right away (that never happens in the computer programming universe > ..... so it was a nice thrill to not have to rewrite a bunch of code). > > Anyway, I have been very happy with the results and loving recording > different sets of loops and then placing them on the turntables and > scratching them ........ > > So if that is the kind of thing that tickles anyones brains ... check out > the video on youtube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ubT54duGB8 > > or on the website www.flyloops.com > > Not too artsy ... since it is made as a commercial, more or less, for > DJ/musicians ..... but hey ..... it still should give you an idea of what I > mean. Quite a fun new toy .... and I am glad to think that there can't be > many other people out there that get to record loops live .... then scratch > them immediately ..... though I guess most people aren't really interested > in scratching. > > Anyway, send me feedback if you like. > > Aaron > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 08:56:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1385D3BE8A; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: getting clean live loops - technique Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:56:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C90A54.53E99F40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <368736.17409.qm@web59902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AckKSO75Prvlaw2eRV21XlIUnSJAOQANG7Ew Message-Id: <20080830085609.9FE803BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:56:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C90A54.53E99F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know the LP1; does it have an autostart function? I've always used autostart, first on my Boss RC 20, then on my EDP. This way, as long as you set the threshold properly and play your first looped note on the downbeat, all you have to do is end the loop accurately to have it nice and even. More practice always helps, of course. I have used loops that started in other parts of a measure; these are fine if you don't need an organized arrangement to come out of them later. But they can be especially weird if restarting after muting takes you back to the beginning. BTW, welcome to LD. I've read it for years but have only posted during 2008 myself. dave Greetings fellow loopers, this is my first post and I have a question regarding looping technique. I use the LP1. When I was learning to loop (on my DL4) I was consistently cutting off the beginning of my loops, resulting in a slightly shortened sound on the first beat of the loop and sometimes even a pop/click sound (but still on beat). So I learned to begin my loops on a beat other than the 1, wherever there was a break in the sound for a moment. So in a two bar loop, I might begin the loop an eighth note before the first beat of the first bar and end it an eighth note before the end of the second bar. So it is stll a two-bar loop in length, but the loop start/end point is not on the 1 (at a quiet/silent part of the loop), so I get a clean loop. However, as my loop pedal has gotten more complex, so have my arrangements, and I am starting to run into issues with my loop start/end points not being on the 1, and I am considering changing my technique. So my question is what do you all do for the problem of the beginning of the loop being cut off? Do I just need to practice more? Are there other people that use my technique of starting the loop on a beat other than the 1? Any info would be appreciated. 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    I don’t know the LP1; does = it have an autostart function?  I’ve always used autostart, first on = my Boss RC 20, then on my EDP.  This way, as long as you set the threshold properly and play your first looped note on the downbeat, all you have = to do is end the loop accurately to have it nice and even.  More practice = always helps, of course.

     

    I have used loops that started in = other parts of a measure; these are fine if you don’t need an organized arrangement to come out of them later.  But they can be especially = weird if restarting after muting takes you back to the beginning.  =

     

    BTW, welcome to LD.  = I’ve read it for years but have only posted during 2008 = myself.

     

    dave

     

     

    Greetings = fellow loopers, this is my first post and I have a question regarding looping = technique.  I use the LP1.  When I was learning to loop (on my DL4) I was = consistently cutting off the beginning of my loops, resulting in a slightly shortened = sound on the first beat of the loop and sometimes even a pop/click sound (but = still on beat).  So I learned to begin my loops on a beat other than the = 1, wherever there was a break in the sound for a moment.  So in a two = bar loop, I might begin the loop an eighth note before the first beat of the = first bar and end it an eighth note before the end of the second bar.  So = it is stll a two-bar loop in length, but the loop start/end point is not on = the 1 (at a quiet/silent part of the loop), so I get a clean loop.

    However, as my loop pedal has gotten more complex, so have my = arrangements, and I am starting to run into issues with my loop start/end points not being = on the 1, and I am considering changing my technique.  So my question is = what do you all do for the problem of the beginning of the loop being cut = off?  Do I just need to practice more?  Are there other people that use my technique of starting the loop on a beat other than the 1?  Any = info would be appreciated.  I apologize if this has been covered but it did = not come up in my searches.

     

    ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C90A54.53E99F40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 09:40:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD8F43BE7C; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMeORxcd7 Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: DJ techniques in live looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) - also for Jeff Larson! Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:40:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808300152m1c96d48bxbcef701e44d93137@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: AckKfbrsnaRTtJ39TtK1EFxFdv3VQAAAPdfA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Hey Per and Aaron (and also Jeff Larson btw), products like the xponent have been available for quite some time, and there's even really cheap ones to get you started (avoiding the B word here). On the other end of the (price) spectrum, you have solutions like Final Scratch, where you basically still have a set of turntables, playing timecode vinyl to control your software, which, according to DJ/turntablism people, works outstandingly. Now Per, you noted a reason for you to not use a turntable interface: > play different instruments while looping live and that keeps > my hands quite occupied. Here I might add: one of the beauties of loop playing is that, from time to time, you have the possibility to use your instrument-playing hands to e.g. work a set of wheels of steel while the loops are running on. > Regarding scratching and turnrtablism I've actually seen a > lot of that on this list. But most people use other physical > control surfaces than "stuff that looks like hand controlled > vinyl turntables". I think the most popular interfaces among > musician loopists is the expression style foot pedal. Unfortunately, I've yet to find a powerful looping tool (in our sense of the word, with all the overdub and first loop capability thingies going) that has a control interface that more relates to DJ work (correction: had to, until Flyloops implemented that). The typical looper has buttons for transport control (play/stop, reverse, halfspeed), and some loopers also add playback speed control (like the Repeater's varispeed or Mobius' Rate Shift). On the other hand, tools more targeted at a DJ-related market (which, on the other hand, often lack functions like first loop capability or overdub) sometimes offer also DJ-oriented transport control. One example would be the Kaoss pad series, where you have those algorithms where you can scratch your loop sample in various ways. Another example would be the Roland (I think) D2, which also has a scratch pad. Now Jeff (and this is why you're mentioned above): would it be possible to control a loop in Mobius with one of these controllers like a Kaoss pad, to "sratch" the loop? > hand knobs to twist. Anther DJ technique I'm relying on in > looping is the crossover mixer. I keep pre defined fades as Actually, Ableton Live implements a crossfader functionality (if that's what you're hinting at with "crossover mixer"), where you can assign any track to one of two busses and then mix between them with a crossfader - which, of course, can also be controlled by an expression pedal. > the EDP it's implemented as a direct jump between two loops - > I think even with the option of arriving at sync point > related to the other loop which is in praxis the same thing > as having two beatsynced turntables going and quickly > crossfading between them. I see this as different things - if a direct jump was the same as a crossfade, then all those (hiphop) DJ mixers would have a switch instead of a crossfader, wouldn't they? > The typical DJ filtering (punching in and out different > slices of the frequency range) is something I use in other > contexts and have been missing with my live looping rig > (laptop running Mobius hosted in > Bidule) but I just found a new VST plug-in that may finally help me > out: Again, Ableton Live has a plugin called "EQ3" which is a kind of DJ EQ: 3-band graphic eq, selectable crossover frequencies and filter steepness and kill switches for all three bands. I used to apply that a lot in my former (i.e. 2005-2007, as documented on my "Weird Specialist" album) work a lot, with one of those sitting on each track with loop content (drum machine, pre-recorded drum loops and Mobius returns). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 10:01:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F29623BE7E; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 65967371/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.176.145 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.176.145 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsBALS3uEhPRrCR/2dsb2JhbAAItSKBaoNA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,296,1217804400"; d="scan'208";a="65967371" Message-ID: <48B91A8E.9050301@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:01:50 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: getting clean live loops - technique References: <20080830085609.9FE803BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20080830085609.9FE803BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:01:49 +0000 (UTC) > Greetings fellow loopers, this is my first post and I have a question > regarding looping technique. I use the LP1. When I was learning to > loop (on my DL4) I was consistently cutting off the beginning of my > loops, resulting in a slightly shortened sound on the first beat of the > loop and sometimes even a pop/click sound (but still on beat) > Do I just need to practice more? Yep. > Are there other people that use my technique of starting the loop on a > beat other than the 1? Any info would be appreciated. I apologize if > this has been covered but it did not come up in my searches. > I do this if I think it better preserves the intended rhythmic feel, and then trigger the loop "early" for the more complex arrangements. (also, I use a similar technique on the rare occasions that I midi control my lex JamMan, as it responds quite slowly ) I think Zoe Keating commonly starts loops on the upbeat (Zoe?) ...but as you're probably realizing, you just need to practice recording loops and teach your foot to work a bit faster. I don't know if the LP1 allows you to instantly wipe a loop and record a new one like the edp does, but that's the best way. Just keep re-recording over and over again till it starts working for you. Oh, and make sure you're not using a midi-controller that has latency. hope that helps somewhat andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 10:29:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43F7A3BE7C; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wLX7r1sUmEtGPt61gXhAOFn0IUf+uSeZBjmtsPEQcrk=; b=KhWDFA0OMtUR+RaXi4yefIHRZNwaHwn/AsPjd6i7fwGBe4N/SdVGFujbtlmytGlmnM I3PmZnBDW6fLa2aMIKU5wFFBjIYs9Ju3FjYHP9ljkzAgn2v4ZlN0eXyZlZRo1J4yOC+9 O2VlCOdnvLxiCLie7urvLFaviXXbwC4P/d3M4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=cPXxH1cKM8bs3fzLZEkawH0iNaeO/dPQgAf3IDkI5AblhLReuShWhn29PM62k7HepL pVMFalCIH+GCGgclod7T6zEmaXB2aNVrCur9zFXJeh+z6/gTEJWhjwPEFT6Pf73HmVcQ H9R49TqvCPHfcQrAiobktxVS3fYsnevCgabCo= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808300329j4d048dbes3b83b46e6e96a359@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:29:56 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DJ techniques in live looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) - also for Jeff Larson! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808300152m1c96d48bxbcef701e44d93137@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:29:57 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Hey Per and Aaron (and also Jeff Larson btw), >> hand knobs to twist. Anther DJ technique I'm relying on in >> looping is the crossover mixer. I keep pre defined fades as > > Actually, Ableton Live implements a crossfader functionality (if that's what > you're hinting at with "crossover mixer"), No, I'm hinting at the technique. A typical DJ mixer has a cross over fader between the two turntables and if you watch a DJ's hands at work you can see how he jumps between the two turntables with this cross fader while changing the "source sound" (moving the disc or replacing it) on the turntable that is not on-line at the moment. Ableton is one by many that have borrowed this concept. With loopers we may use more than two sources for cross fading though. >> The typical DJ filtering (punching in and out different >> slices of the frequency range) is something I use in other >> contexts and have been missing with my live looping rig >> (laptop running Mobius hosted in >> Bidule) but I just found a new VST plug-in that may finally help me >> out: > > Again, Ableton Live has a plugin called "EQ3" which is a kind of DJ EQ: > 3-band graphic eq, selectable crossover frequencies and filter steepness and > kill switches for all three bands. Yes, certainly! That's one of my favorite plug-ins of Live's! But you have to run it inside Live! The new free VST I recommended is a little different: It is a sweep knob filter that automatically changes from low pass, through band pass and into high pass mode depending on where on the scale the knob is positioned. I think that is a great design and if it is stable and works well it will be of great value to me. Sorry that I left out some information, but I'm intending to keep my posts short and adequate, so people can click a link to learn more about something I mention - if they have the interest. Over and out. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 13:04:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D98983BE85; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMeORxcd7 Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: DJ techniques in live looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) - also for Jeff Larson! Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:04:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808300329j4d048dbes3b83b46e6e96a359@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: AckKi1nLKs2MIuBdT+mGACe4vx0LUwAA1r7Q Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:04:46 +0000 (UTC) > No, I'm hinting at the technique. A typical DJ mixer has a > cross over fader between the two turntables and if you watch > a DJ's hands at work you can see how he jumps between the two > turntables with this cross fader while changing the "source > sound" (moving the disc or replacing > it) on the turntable that is not on-line at the moment. There are actually two styles of crossfaders for two different concepts of using them: 1. The scratch/mix battle approach: This would actually come first in history (and is the concept also linked to Joseph Saddler a.k.a Grandmaster Flash, who is often cited as the inventor of the crossfader). The attenuation of the crosfader over its way is highly non-linear, meaning that it stays close to zero over most of the fader's path, then sharply (but continously differentably) rising at the end of the path. The crossfader is used behaviourally as a click-free three way switch with the positions A:"source 1", B:"source 1 + source 2" and C:"source 2" respectively. There are two things done with that click-free three-way-switch: a) suddenly but click-free switching between two sources, when cutting from one vinyl track to another or back and forth between both. This uses positions A and C. b) When scratching, you usually have your beat running on one set (let's say source 1 in our terminology) and scratch on the second one (source 2). To create rhythmic effects or to mute unwanted sonic effects (such as when reversing, thus allowing the very low frequencies), you quickly mute the scratch deck. In that application, the crossfader becomes a click-free killswitch, without at all affecting source 1; you use position B and C. One example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axJZzeYGb60 In the beginning, you see a lot of application of method a). Skwint always slams the crossfader from full left to full right and back. Then, starting at 1:30 in the scratch action, method b) is applied (source 1 here is the turntable on viewers' left). Here, he moves the fader from full (viewers') right into the center area and back. Method b) is also used when you're only using one source (which makes sense, as here the crossfader only affects one of the two): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQcyLMa716k (e.g. at 2:00) (Thanks to all of you for starting this thread. I really enjoy that video of DJ Skwint!) 2. The blending over approach: In most styles of electronic dance (of the 90s), the muting effect is not that important (as there's no scratching). What becomes important is the possibility to fade between two sources relatively slowly using a constant power contour. (couldn't find videos to document this properly). The crossfader here is used a lot in conjunction with frequency kill and punch switches. Great examples are mixes from that genre like the DJ Kicks series, making proper use of the fact that those production maxis always start of with only a drum beat (contrary to a lot of the sources used in oldskool hiphop, which are mostly old funk, soul and jazz records). > Ableton is one by many that have borrowed this concept. With > loopers we may use more than two sources for cross fading though. Some DJs may do that too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fh7WgI4grk And some even use a looper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzd6kbuxN1k > Sorry that I left out some information, but I'm intending to > keep my posts short and adequate, so people can click a link I, on the other hand, tend to write shitloads everytime... 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To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <805405.73408.qm@web26205.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I am writing about guitarist and looper Eivind Aarset, and when I try to un= derstand how and what he does, I think I must put into words; what an instr= ument is, what effects are, and what looping is. So I posted this, thinking= I could get some ideas from you. Thanks!=20 http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/eivind-aarset/jul-08/86529 There is one more thing, I have studied Aarset music and his liveconserts a= nd read interviews, but I lack some topic to discuss regarding; player, ins= truments and electronics. Boysen, wrote something like this; electronics ca= n be used to change the sound of an instrument - or it can be used as a ano= ther way of playing, and Where would you put Aarset regarding this? =20 Best regards Rune F --- Den l=F8r 2008-08-30 skrev Matthias Grob : > Fra: Matthias Grob > Emne: Re: Is looping an effect, a instrument or something else? > Til: "Andy Butler" , rune_fagereng@yahoo.no > Dato: L=F8rdag 30. august 2008 17.58 > I see your point Andy >=20 > but anything can turn into an instrument > we have a famous sambist fat woman here who only plays a > standard =20 > porcelan dish with a spoon > does this mean that a dish is an instrument? >=20 > I think for the ordinary people, a musical instrument > creates sound > and a live looping tool on principle only repeats sound >=20 > yes, why is this off list now? >=20 > Matthias >=20 >=20 > On 29 Aug 2008, at 06:03, andy butler wrote: >=20 > > > > > > rune fagereng wrote: > >> Hi ! > >> Butler wrote; > >> very obviously many of us are playing the looper > like an > >>> instrument, > >>> and some are essentially playing an instrument > which > >>> incorporates the looping device. > >> This is interesting; so its how you use it thats > the matter? > >> Rune F. > > > > > > :-) > > Yes, that simplifies the idea in a very clear way. > > > > Actually, I'm surprised that Matthias appears to > think otherwise, > > as the loop device he invented can be used to play > back a set of =20 > > triggered samples, and is the most instrument like of > > all looping devices. > > (and he's been in the room when I've been > using the edp as an =20 > > instrument;-) > > andy > > ps, > > I notice you replied off-list, > > feel free to post it back to the list if you think the > discussion =20 > > will be worthwhile. > > > > > >>> ok, I'll assume for now that we're > talking about > >>> live looping here, > >>> and not the numerous other techniques also > called > >>> "looping". > >>> > >>> Re: Is looping an effect, a instrument or > something else? > >>> > >>> It's a bit like asking "is an > amplifier an instrument?" > >>> The obvious answer is no, > >>> ...but then we hear what Jimi Hendrix did with > his guitar, > >>> and wonder if that music was even conceivable > without the > >>> amplifier. > >>> So we migh think that in this case the > instrument is > >>> guitar+amp. > >>> > >>> It's just as obvious that a guitar(for > instance) is the > >>> instrument, > >>> and the looping device an assistant in some > way. > >>> I couldn't apply that to much of the music > that's > >>> made with looping devices though. > >>> Very obviously many of us are playing the > looper like an > >>> instrument, > >>> and some are essentially playing an instrument > which > >>> incorporates the looping device. > >>> > >>> > >>> andy butler > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> rune fagereng wrote: > >>>> Grob wrote; > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> as I see it, its neither instrument > nor effect, > >>> its a tool > >>>>> for composition or improvisation > >>>>> of course I tried many times to define > it > >>>>> its simpler today, as most people have > seen it > >>> happening > >>>>> and you can put a link to some video > >>>>> my latest descriptions are on > livelooping.org and > >>>>> aurisis.com, you are welcome to grab > them! > >>>> Hi and thanks ! > >>>> > >>>> I will look at your websites - thanks. > >>>> I had a short vitit at your personly > website, and > >>> noticed you also are sceptic about electronic > instruments. > >>> If > >>>> thats so - count me in. I will look into > how and why > >>> you feel so. Hope I dont offend anyone. > >>>> best regarding Rune F Norway > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 28 Aug 2008, at 08:14, rune > fagereng wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi ! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am to write a little something > regarding; > >>>>> instruments - effects - > >>>>>> looping - sampling - digital > sound... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Does anyone have some writings > about looping > >>> defining > >>>>> what it is - > >>>>>> and are some pictures or figures > showing - or > >>>>> illustrating what > >>>>>> looping is - for someone who dont > know? Best > >>> if not in > >>>>> pdf - so I > >>>>>> can borrow pictures. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rune F. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > _________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med > >>> adressekartotek, > >>>>> kalender og > >>>>>> notisblokk. > http://no.mail.yahoo.com > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > _________________________________________________________ > >>>> Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med > adressekartotek, > >>> kalender og > >>>> notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > >>>> > >>>> > >> =20 > _________________________________________________________ > >> Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, > kalender og > >> notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com =0A=0A=0A _________________________________________________________=0A= Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og=0Anotisblokk. = http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 18:14:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91DE13BE87; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 66134992/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.176.145 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.176.145 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AngBABUquUhPRrCR/2dsb2JhbAAItXSBaYM+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,298,1217804400"; d="scan'208";a="66134992" Message-ID: <48B98E11.2090701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:14:41 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Grob CC: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no, LD Subject: Re: Is looping an effect, a instrument or something else? References: <550413.47634.qm@web26205.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <48B7BB65.5090404@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:14:40 +0000 (UTC) there's lots of this thread that went off-list by mistake, so I brought it back again:- Matthias Grob wrote: > I see your point Andy > > but anything can turn into an instrument > we have a famous sambist fat woman here who only plays a standard > porcelan dish with a spoon > does this mean that a dish is an instrument? A ghatam is an instrument. ...so why not a plate. Anyway, you just said that "anything can turn into an instrument", so I would be just contradicting you if I said her plate didn't turn into one. :-) > > I think for the ordinary people, a musical instrument creates sound > and a live looping tool on principle only repeats sound A sampling keyboard just repeats sound too . Anyway, the edp even has features in it's design which are intended to be used as an instrument. You can load up to 16 samples and play them from a keyboard. Maybe it's not so interesting whether we call a looper an instrument, clearly it just depends on how we define "instrument". Perhaps we could ask, "If a looper is an instrument, what kind of instrument is it?" "In what ways does this new instrument make new musical forms possible?" andy butler > > yes, why is this off list now? > > Matthias possibly because Rune has his email address in the field. (and I didn't realize...got caught out again) > > > On 29 Aug 2008, at 06:03, andy butler wrote: > >> >> >> rune fagereng wrote: >>> Hi ! >>> Butler wrote; >>> very obviously many of us are playing the looper like an >>>> instrument, >>>> and some are essentially playing an instrument which >>>> incorporates the looping device. >>> This is interesting; so its how you use it thats the matter? >>> Rune F. >> >> >> :-) >> Yes, that simplifies the idea in a very clear way. >> >> Actually, I'm surprised that Matthias appears to think otherwise, >> as the loop device he invented can be used to play back a set of >> triggered samples, and is the most instrument like of >> all looping devices. >> (and he's been in the room when I've been using the edp as an >> instrument;-) >> andy >> ps, >> I notice you replied off-list, >> feel free to post it back to the list if you think the discussion will >> be worthwhile. >> >> >>>> ok, I'll assume for now that we're talking about >>>> live looping here, >>>> and not the numerous other techniques also called >>>> "looping". >>>> >>>> Re: Is looping an effect, a instrument or something else? >>>> >>>> It's a bit like asking "is an amplifier an instrument?" >>>> The obvious answer is no, >>>> ...but then we hear what Jimi Hendrix did with his guitar, >>>> and wonder if that music was even conceivable without the >>>> amplifier. >>>> So we migh think that in this case the instrument is >>>> guitar+amp. >>>> >>>> It's just as obvious that a guitar(for instance) is the >>>> instrument, >>>> and the looping device an assistant in some way. >>>> I couldn't apply that to much of the music that's >>>> made with looping devices though. >>>> Very obviously many of us are playing the looper like an >>>> instrument, >>>> and some are essentially playing an instrument which >>>> incorporates the looping device. >>>> >>>> >>>> andy butler >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> rune fagereng wrote: >>>>> Grob wrote; >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> as I see it, its neither instrument nor effect, >>>> its a tool >>>>>> for composition or improvisation >>>>>> of course I tried many times to define it >>>>>> its simpler today, as most people have seen it >>>> happening >>>>>> and you can put a link to some video >>>>>> my latest descriptions are on livelooping.org and >>>>>> aurisis.com, you are welcome to grab them! >>>>> Hi and thanks ! >>>>> >>>>> I will look at your websites - thanks. >>>>> I had a short vitit at your personly website, and >>>> noticed you also are sceptic about electronic instruments. >>>> If >>>>> thats so - count me in. I will look into how and why >>>> you feel so. Hope I dont offend anyone. >>>>> best regarding Rune F Norway >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 28 Aug 2008, at 08:14, rune fagereng wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am to write a little something regarding; >>>>>> instruments - effects - >>>>>>> looping - sampling - digital sound... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone have some writings about looping >>>> defining >>>>>> what it is - >>>>>>> and are some pictures or figures showing - or >>>>>> illustrating what >>>>>>> looping is - for someone who dont know? Best >>>> if not in >>>>>> pdf - so I >>>>>>> can borrow pictures. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rune F. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med >>>> adressekartotek, >>>>>> kalender og >>>>>>> notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________ >>>>> Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, >>>> kalender og >>>>> notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com >>>>> >>>>> >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og >>> notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 18:46:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D614D3BE7F; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:46:43 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=--fjLe8uau66WxiITHAA:9 a=qan7c-k9ZkZlk1-2eIF5GM6PNWgA:4 a=JqzK7hVu6n4A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <85A6F3F1-81AE-455F-80A2-24A784B8E258@grubmah.com> References: <9D8F6F46184348E7B698C3107D60B65F@williamsteed> <85A6F3F1-81AE-455F-80A2-24A784B8E258@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1E8F7D42-589E-444D-B2D4-948972152A6A@yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Gaber Subject: Re: VG99 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:41:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:46:43 +0000 (UTC) It doesnt have a specific Space echo model, but I believe it is capable of producing all the same results as the RE-20. I do not have a RE-20, so I dont really know for sure. I am looking at one of the original ads for the VG-99 in Guitar Player Mag where they have illustrations of many of the different guitars, amps and effects the VG-99 is capable of reproducing and there is a picture of the Roland RE-150 Space Echo. So for what its worth. What is it exactly are you wondering about? Chris On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Does it have a Space Echo model? I've been tempted by the RE-20 > pedal (which incidentally can sort of be used as a looper). > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 19:03:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 500693BE81; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=kNUsdqchdVA8R07jtvDqa+Ducqt+Wf+X5HJF7eIGGCA=; b=toUOKPo+3hCePQe4+YboAcpnUHOqJQCUpd4dVpY5FirTqIXLsUTKGlf77WLrapvpYj AjN33BDZDk5anqbBDHokqd8yrg7OH4oPuiX6qLrmyrd77l86fC1hITMoOoAIjJ2DXNys o3fNRogvaqfYBKaJf+3zviu9vI/pHHhAZbKp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=jb4qXNncA6UxeCjvjKQUGu6gics5o0PZiQRNQ7V2mZTzrY4sTb9toJ9xyjCZfj1x7l s5fI15/G7evX092GS/DS9lxoEGz3Imk92ksQV9DmnP48xtbWf3q9xbtXxGs1lBlZRLHm Z3qbY/z5tZGP/Q8LGsb1MdZcIbwWWGXpOJCFI= Message-ID: <26ba8d120808301203l62f1c96er61e9e2db384425a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:03:30 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight Subject: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7532_10784164.1220123010527" X-Google-Sender-Auth: d70a3dc9683a534e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:03:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7532_10784164.1220123010527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It looks like I'm going to be doing a Hawkwind cover band as a lark so I'm looking for a cheap spacey synth that will sync up nicely with all my loopers - as a slave (the Repeater never likes being a slave as we all know). (I guess spacey is more important than sync for this application.... :-D) Any recommendations? -- /t ------=_Part_7532_10784164.1220123010527 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    It looks like I'm going to be doing a Hawkwind cover band as a lark so I'm looking for a cheap spacey synth that will sync up nicely with all my loopers - as a slave (the Repeater never likes being a slave as we all know).

    (I guess spacey is more important than sync for this application.... :-D)

    Any recommendations?

    --
    /t

    ------=_Part_7532_10784164.1220123010527-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 19:19:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BACE63BE7E; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=hQV0KjMq7rAhN0Ib98/sYHIp5LwmFdqfE+WOSiwcXFEzSpI51kbI7d3V1lPuENQMmWAdZHnMldndW02eJX7YkLvlKr8F0ycW3epSaHYy3zjG/Eq+gXt1R5s6crbw8p0Ww+IWFf1XDkzxWGJ02/ihRiDdpoVDk6i246eO7Hf0jU8=; X-YMail-OSG: MRcW1HYVM1m.L8qb0eZ39Lii8gM7s1Sn48HAiBnKNt.Kd6ODjCEdqLJGiED1vpSAiqzCAR1ouUFgSlUcYORpcqirfo1.VYctoUtAZD8I5Hq058qaezvQXV0D0Rlk38YRPXUG2tqFP2i1kbGYbh0qcsmm5s46E.xFxiFwx8v9NKaUPxFQeLGK_STl8LvO X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:19:07 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120808301203l62f1c96er61e9e2db384425a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <753579.41276.qm@web50303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Korg MS2000B --- On Sat, 8/30/08, Tom Ritchford wrote: > From: Tom Ritchford > Subject: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 12:03 PM > It looks like I'm going to be doing a Hawkwind cover > band as a lark so I'm > looking for a cheap spacey synth that will sync up nicely > with all my > loopers - as a slave (the Repeater never likes being a > slave as we all > know). > (I guess spacey is more important than sync for this > application.... :-D) > > Any recommendations? > > -- > /t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 19:30:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 498123BE87; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <85A6F3F1-81AE-455F-80A2-24A784B8E258@grubmah.com> References: <9D8F6F46184348E7B698C3107D60B65F@williamsteed> <85A6F3F1-81AE-455F-80A2-24A784B8E258@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <606b8fe4cdb639f92c1074e70b1f3c51@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: VG99 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:30:43 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <3RpYf.A.phF.p_ZuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Marko, I spelunked through the VG-99 manual this morning, and read in the delay section (p123-125) that the longest delay the VG can muster is a meager 1.8 seconds max - that's it. That tiny little delay amount can be treated in all sorts of creative ways - but it's ultimately not meant as a "looper" per se, at least not in the same way as those of us used to Echoplexes and Looperlatives and such are used to thinking of "loopers." It might be able to approximate a "Space Echo" in the old retro way of such things - increasing warmth/degeneration of repeats (a la tape) as long as that short delay time is acceptable. But, if that new Boss RE-20 pedal has more delay time available to it than a mere 1800ms, then the answer to you question of whether there is a "virtual" RE-20 lurking in the bowels of the VG-99 is a negative. Sorry if that is bad news. Tedster From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 19:45:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0AAC3BE81; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1404 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:45:28 UTC Message-ID: <6E40A525035144BF91068A4725E1C760@YOUR8D89FFE59A> From: "D O'Heare" To: Cc: "Tom Ritchford" References: <26ba8d120808301203l62f1c96er61e9e2db384425a1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:21:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <5fynJB.A.KIG.YNauIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Dang, pity you're so far away, Tom. I'd wanna be Lemmy in your band... Dave O'H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ritchford" To: "Loopers-Delight" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? > It looks like I'm going to be doing a Hawkwind cover band as a lark so > I'm > looking for a cheap spacey synth that will sync up nicely with all my > loopers - as a slave (the Repeater never likes being a slave as we all > know). > (I guess spacey is more important than sync for this application.... :-D) > > Any recommendations? > > -- > /t > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 20:11:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A7553BE87; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:11:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=tr0OxpmsRLwV33LiAf8BJtjADvIOPGLdvr6QkxXWkwwgkCnjESAqyEipsJ+xVyf4+oZXw47AWtqrjoP9SrQ+BtNiMHCjkOm2/KkHusWL5Qh69C90VFwMsQYPD80iV7MCFGh4VZIVgsnB5KkhVo/jo0obNB79PpU4KHeUv97cWcU= ; X-YMail-OSG: 5WUeTG8VM1mQtns7IlSCnXx0QPKDuXvwjnu21In5UgfGAnDW9c_K37E2fcJMLdtOJFza6h_UAQmAM4u_f6pYtnVmlo4uQLaJSgj9M7SqESk7FbgaMPkF1ZIPiZ8AAlfosV5HWHmRPs_A6g4do4a7 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 In-Reply-To: <6E40A525035144BF91068A4725E1C760@YOUR8D89FFE59A> References: <26ba8d120808301203l62f1c96er61e9e2db384425a1@mail.gmail.com> <6E40A525035144BF91068A4725E1C760@YOUR8D89FFE59A> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--845749664 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:11:42 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:11:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--845749664 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed try a microkorg Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 30 Aug 2008, at 20:21, D O'Heare wrote: > Dang, pity you're so far away, Tom. I'd wanna be Lemmy in your > band... > > Dave O'H > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ritchford" > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:03 PM > Subject: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? > > >> It looks like I'm going to be doing a Hawkwind cover band as a >> lark so I'm >> looking for a cheap spacey synth that will sync up nicely with all my >> loopers - as a slave (the Repeater never likes being a slave as we >> all >> know). >> (I guess spacey is more important than sync for this >> application.... :-D) >> >> Any recommendations? >> >> -- >> /t > --Apple-Mail-4--845749664 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 try a microkorg
    Matt = Stevens
    www.mattstevensguitar.com




    On 30 Aug 2008, = at 20:21, D O'Heare wrote:

    Dang, pity you're so far away, Tom.=A0 I'd wanna be Lemmy in your = band...

    Dave O'H

    ----- Original Message ----- = From: "Tom Ritchford" <tom@swirly.com>
    Sent: Saturday, August 30, = 2008 3:03 PM
    Subject: small, cheap, loopy, = spacey keyboard?


    It looks like I'm going to be = doing a Hawkwind cover band as a lark so I'm
    looking for a cheap spacey synth that will sync up = nicely with all my
    loopers - as a slave (the = Repeater never likes being a slave as we all
    know).
    (I guess = spacey is more important than sync for this application.... = :-D)

    Any recommendations?

    --=A0
    /t
    =

    =

    = --Apple-Mail-4--845749664-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 20:27:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 630323BE80; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=5HyPW7FK1IRdUnKjAthCkbfB48zE/2GH6JohlBjtdDs=; b=fMMCO+dswCSNCXgBOGI+oDJWSxx9vqnhvy1RiKWLBmbbif4/JWYeP8bPOy6lQWaz17 XjkyWSwKAKox2Za4OLVA8rIZW5mRZmPXvC/yt6uyyueNwbvU3HCly447uJTy62sD5NtN 8Fqo/9Q2fFoEzLNn8UVbZRgk3SrL2hDUdHFXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=xiNVbJM17e60afYvceguCFCcMR6D7X0TptmEH0GyaSkrWEPEonp6CksndpM6b0PP/S fUYMHnV60GYeNayTS3Un5uHLRXBpbXVLqlkLzl7q/KhoMLMrHzWtFVgl7e+NxoQhdTYL zjz8n97JwIkto3q4r+b99XA6XYkJag+ErhlOs= Message-ID: <26ba8d120808301327p61d2c6daheb568d4f29d58e30@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:27:41 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: "D O'Heare" Subject: Re: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6E40A525035144BF91068A4725E1C760@YOUR8D89FFE59A> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7601_25689227.1220128061776" References: <26ba8d120808301203l62f1c96er61e9e2db384425a1@mail.gmail.com> <6E40A525035144BF91068A4725E1C760@YOUR8D89FFE59A> X-Google-Sender-Auth: bb446cc472c8a18f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:27:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7601_25689227.1220128061776 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM, D O'Heare wrote: > Dang, pity you're so far away, Tom. I'd wanna be Lemmy in your band... > You still have all your teeth, though! Actually, I haven't heard the prospective bassist playing bass yet. The MS2000B is too big... I'm leaning towards the Micro BK 'cause it looks neat :-D - does anyone know what advantages the MicroX has? > > Dave O'H > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ritchford" > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:03 PM > Subject: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? > > > It looks like I'm going to be doing a Hawkwind cover band as a lark so I'm >> looking for a cheap spacey synth that will sync up nicely with all my >> loopers - as a slave (the Repeater never likes being a slave as we all >> know). >> (I guess spacey is more important than sync for this application.... :-D) >> >> Any recommendations? >> >> -- >> /t >> >> > -- /t ------=_Part_7601_25689227.1220128061776 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM, D O'Heare <oheare@magma.ca> wrote:
    Dang, pity you're so far away, Tom.  I'd wanna be Lemmy in your band...

    You still have all your teeth, though!  Actually, I haven't heard the prospective bassist playing bass yet.

    The MS2000B is too big...  I'm leaning towards the Micro BK 'cause it looks neat :-D - does anyone know what advantages the MicroX has?
     

    Dave O'H

    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ritchford" <tom@swirly.com>

    To: "Loopers-Delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
    Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:03 PM

    Subject: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard?


    It looks like I'm going to be doing a Hawkwind cover band as a lark so I'm
    looking for a cheap spacey synth that will sync up nicely with all my
    loopers - as a slave (the Repeater never likes being a slave as we all
    know).
    (I guess spacey is more important than sync for this application.... :-D)

    Any recommendations?

    --
    /t





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    /t

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My Kindest Regards, Mrs. Mosley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 20:47:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2EFF3BE8A; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=sms5Hh5BDPvJQPI6Ys4ww/d+LC0KYwCMXiYtVO/oEgk=; b=GZuBY8Ctowm0djFw+bdQC6jsTlNmDiyx0hOuy7jV9dMIWL992L+R4x+59CbSpwDovO 7ThpaCBpEqsjKuqyrmybIdu0Inb9/2bF6i2d0xo4FAnuZvaMotYOSE/kjQ2uOE4j66u4 m+VHBgF7dvmCtsq8RGSi5Sh+dQPnxbR32ZeFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=YiRz4UDZtLY5rlM0ZV/uHWfTaisnhYw4H7zXohFXgbBWOgvllAfNsD0bBMBLvTl/lb uyhH9FD6EjsmktZPPqRKU0uXtk8nJDTzgohFc5wzQMRKV3Vja/BLH6XN+uKxuF++ACoG 49K2KkQxJNKVmuYsHe8yBUHsRrF6BMxY0vGts= Message-ID: <26ba8d120808301347m2f511cct6205faec94e31ea1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:47:57 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: "D O'Heare" Subject: Re: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120808301327p61d2c6daheb568d4f29d58e30@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7615_7029500.1220129277934" References: <26ba8d120808301203l62f1c96er61e9e2db384425a1@mail.gmail.com> <6E40A525035144BF91068A4725E1C760@YOUR8D89FFE59A> <26ba8d120808301327p61d2c6daheb568d4f29d58e30@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f9aa361313e5c287 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:47:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7615_7029500.1220129277934 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM, D O'Heare wrote: > >> Dang, pity you're so far away, Tom. I'd wanna be Lemmy in your band... >> > > You still have all your teeth, though! Actually, I haven't heard the > prospective bassist playing bass yet. > > The MS2000B is too big... I'm leaning towards the Micro BK 'cause it looks > neat :-D - does anyone know what advantages the MicroX has? > That's the microkorg BK vs the Micro X Wait, they soak you for $50 just to make the keys black?! Are sharpies permanent on keyboard keys?! One way to find out. answer: they are! well, they sorta smear slightly but then most of my other instruments are black. > >> >> Dave O'H >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ritchford" >> To: "Loopers-Delight" >> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:03 PM >> Subject: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard? >> >> >> It looks like I'm going to be doing a Hawkwind cover band as a lark so >>> I'm >>> looking for a cheap spacey synth that will sync up nicely with all my >>> loopers - as a slave (the Repeater never likes being a slave as we all >>> know). >>> (I guess spacey is more important than sync for this application.... :-D) >>> >>> Any recommendations? >>> >>> -- >>> /t >>> >>> >> > > > -- > /t > > -- /t ------=_Part_7615_7029500.1220129277934 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


    On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> wrote:
    On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM, D O'Heare <oheare@magma.ca> wrote:
    Dang, pity you're so far away, Tom.  I'd wanna be Lemmy in your band...

    You still have all your teeth, though!  Actually, I haven't heard the prospective bassist playing bass yet.

    The MS2000B is too big...  I'm leaning towards the Micro BK 'cause it looks neat :-D - does anyone know what advantages the MicroX has?

    That's the microkorg BK vs the Micro X
    Wait, they soak you for $50 just to make the keys black?!

    Are sharpies permanent on keyboard keys?!  One way to find out.  answer:  they are!  well, they sorta smear slightly but then most of my other instruments are black.
     


     

    Dave O'H

    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ritchford" <tom@swirly.com>

    To: "Loopers-Delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
    Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:03 PM

    Subject: small, cheap, loopy, spacey keyboard?


    It looks like I'm going to be doing a Hawkwind cover band as a lark so I'm
    looking for a cheap spacey synth that will sync up nicely with all my
    loopers - as a slave (the Repeater never likes being a slave as we all
    know).
    (I guess spacey is more important than sync for this application.... :-D)

    Any recommendations?

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    /t





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    /t




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    /t

    ------=_Part_7615_7029500.1220129277934-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 21:10:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DF753BE88; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--842218527 Message-Id: <9002e70127ba9f8d7f3a14a22ed61f73@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: cello for airports, moved to terminal 1 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:10:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:10:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--842218527 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed We played at the Vancouver Airport about a year ago and it HAD to be one of the strangest gigs ever. People loved it, there was free beer - always a MAJOR plus for me - but the security etc was astoundingly George Orwell. I felt like I'd just landed from Baghdad with an Uzi T shirt on and matchbooks taped to my shoes. Knock 'em out!!! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 28-Aug-08, at 9:27 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > regarding my cello performance tomorrow at SFO: > > i just found out that for various logistical reasons ( um, i heard the > guy who runs the SFMOMA store in the int'l terminal DIDN'T LIKE MY > MUSIC and wants to listen to the wind quintet), i've been moved. my > performance will not be in the international terminal, instead it will > be in terminal 1. on the mezzanine, with a lovely view of the security > checkpoint. not quite so uplifting as the international terminal. > > but there is still sushi nearby! > > 11am to 2pm > --Apple-Mail-2--842218527 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII We played at the Vancouver Airport about a year ago and it HAD to be one of the strangest gigs ever. People loved it, there was free beer - always a MAJOR plus for me - but the security etc was astoundingly George Orwell. I felt like I'd just landed from Baghdad with an Uzi T shirt on and matchbooks taped to my shoes. Knock 'em out!!! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 28-Aug-08, at 9:27 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: regarding my cello performance tomorrow at SFO: i just found out that for various logistical reasons ( um, i heard the guy who runs the SFMOMA store in the int'l terminal DIDN'T LIKE MY MUSIC and wants to listen to the wind quintet), i've been moved. my performance will not be in the international terminal, instead it will be in terminal 1. on the mezzanine, with a lovely view of the security checkpoint. not quite so uplifting as the international terminal. but there is still sushi nearby! 11am to 2pm --Apple-Mail-2--842218527-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 30 22:14:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E1C63BE81; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=eum99WXvR3H/Xazq3iQ9QB810DkIyGLPHyogeJceUl8=; b=jYG7Sbg2zHhbz/kD/7V0bmeWOXx4qpGppWFGFrIIXZKp/qeuZd0UmjOo7Dmaib285P kuqcqt6wUNJkcJregq7P2w/xcNLyQZ6Y9AZ7A+Scwd/lvLwjtqf3br9AT0wZpZmIKeaS X8OIDaEVTw0mBj5nerwvSN4Uao9yV7HPncpQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YK90jFvFQww28OFxLusuUIUCkVcYwbejAVKoNmEq17zpHhz1b10tvXfomWaY5UKZBq Rk5t6ViHWhngFBNTZ449E2V1Evp2Q1NzpQFAawqjfSEsqjj8Ln+maF7uYdnRXoiASz1K +LMVsS0xWSniXPyVpFBkV7kkoSPI4GxOWEf4k= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:14:08 -0400 From: "Bouncy C" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Greetings, Thanks, and Rc-20 footswitch ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13596_13751631.1220134448072" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:14:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13596_13751631.1220134448072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Greetings loop minded people! I thank you for the wealth of info I poured over from 2001-2008 just now. My name is Chauncey and I own an RC-20. I recently got the FS-6 Boss dual footswitch. I wanted to confirm with the most knowledgeable minds on the matter, that all this pedal can do is to switch UP from your pre-recorded phrases. I thought that at minimum I could record a loop(say #1), add to it, and then pedal(with your foot) up to the next blank phrase(say #2) and create a new loop. But it appears you can only move forward if there is something there already correct? I have started to employ the use of this RC-20 in my act called Bouncy C http://bouncyc.com and I see that it does have live full song limitations but it works well for me to create 'build-up' songs. Thanks! Chauncey -- Enjoy YourSelf http://bouncyc.com ------=_Part_13596_13751631.1220134448072 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Greetings loop minded people!
    I thank you for the wealth of info I poured over from 2001-2008 just now. My name is Chauncey and
    I own an RC-20. I recently got the FS-6 Boss dual footswitch. I wanted to confirm with the most knowledgeable minds on the matter, that all this pedal can do is to switch UP from your pre-recorded  phrases.
    I thought that at minimum I could record a loop(say #1), add to it, and then pedal(with your foot) up to the next blank phrase(say #2) and create a new loop. But it appears you can only move forward if there is something there already correct?

    I have started to employ the use of this RC-20 in my act called Bouncy C http://bouncyc.com and I see that it does have live full song limitations but it works well for me to create 'build-up' songs.

    Thanks!
    Chauncey
    --
    Enjoy YourSelf
    http://bouncyc.com
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 01:41:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEAC73BE87; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 19190 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:41:42 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7608CA7B-2B66-43E3-B64E-3D55EA572206@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: AW: DJ techniques in live looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) - also for Jeff Larson! Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:21:48 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc123.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:41:43 +0000 (UTC) > Now Jeff (and this is why you're mentioned above): would it be possible to > control a loop in Mobius with one of these controllers like a Kaoss pad, to > "sratch" the loop? I think so but it would be a complicated script. I don't pay much attention to the DJ world, but if I understand correctly scratching is a combination of playback direction changes with continuously variable rate shift. When the turntable is at rest, you are at rate 0.0 which is effectively a pause. As you push the left side of the turntable away from you the record moves under the stylus in the normal direction. The playback rate rises from 0.0 rapidly, levels off depending on the speed of the hand motion, then drops rapidly back to 0.0 if the hand motion stops. If the turntable is powered and the hand is removed it rises or falls gradually to rate 1.0. Pulling the left side of the turntable toward you does the same in reverse. The challenge for the control script is converting a MIDI continuous controller value that bounces between 0 and 127 into a set of rate and direction changes that sound like scratching. One possibly would be consider the center of the range, 64, to be the "resting" state where the playback rate is 0.0 and direction is meaningless. A control value of 127 would be a rate of 1.0 playing forward and a control value of 0 would be a rate of 1.0 playing in reverse. As you move the controller up and down we set the corresponding playback rate and direction. This might sound similar to turntable scratching but I doubt it would feel the same. We would probably need to experiment with smoothing algorithms to make the rate changes happen more gradually rather than just jumping to the current controller value. Crossfade that you mentioned would be much simpler, just make a control script that sets the output levels of two tracks or two groups of tracks. Controlling the "curve" of the fade would be the tricky part. Since you can't do trig, exponents, or other complex math in scripts you would have to pre-calculate a mapping array of 127 values that contained the output levels to apply to the tracks. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 01:43:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A31223BE7E; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jK83sMZ7AAAA:8 a=4p8CnXKyGym4jWnxwl4A:9 a=KmV6WlZVkr9lFrE_2SQA:7 a=dkJ2SQ_ahhNImazC65u02sj6US8A:4 a=D3L0AG4XjkMA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <606b8fe4cdb639f92c1074e70b1f3c51@charter.net> References: <9D8F6F46184348E7B698C3107D60B65F@williamsteed> <85A6F3F1-81AE-455F-80A2-24A784B8E258@grubmah.com> <606b8fe4cdb639f92c1074e70b1f3c51@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4714C2B9-3EC0-4B48-977F-7CB353DB74ED@yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Chris Gaber Subject: Re: VG99 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:43:40 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:43:43 +0000 (UTC) http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php On Aug 30, 2008, at 2:30 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Marko, > > I spelunked through the VG-99 manual this morning, and read in the =20 > delay section (p123-125) that the longest delay the VG can muster =20 > is a meager 1.8 seconds max - that's it. > > That tiny little delay amount can be treated in all sorts of =20 > creative ways - but it's ultimately not meant as a "looper" per se, =20= > at least not in the same way as those of us used to Echoplexes and =20 > Looperlatives and such are used to thinking of "loopers." > > It might be able to approximate a "Space Echo" in the old retro way =20= > of such things - increasing warmth/degeneration of repeats (a la =20 > tape) as long as that short delay time is acceptable. > > But, if that new Boss RE-20 pedal has more delay time available to =20= > it than a mere 1800ms, then the answer to you question of whether =20 > there is a "virtual" RE-20 lurking in the bowels of the VG-99 is a =20 > negative. > > Sorry if that is bad news. > > Tedster > From renie@ut1.com Sun Aug 31 08:42:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 395 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:42:24 UTC Received: from platinumnewsletters.com (platinumnewsletters.com [66.115.175.92]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5835E3BE7C for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 61116 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2008 08:40:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO User) (82.128.3.80) by PLATINUMNEWSLETTERS.COM with SMTP; 31 Aug 2008 08:40:25 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Barrister Brian Davies" Subject: ESTATE OF MAURICE WOHL Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:34:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Antivirus: avast! 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Regards, Barrister Brian Davies Email: dc.chambers@post.ro DAVIES CHAMBER, UNITED KINGDOM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 11:23:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A9C43BE8A; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=U4aXpajDAicsIvOJBwGXNU8YgluCpZF1XDS5LgB0/KqPHbyNq9vY0qzDe4cmNac0PmCVfo7VCfKNa1eoeSHpnB7Zo7BDD/HAvKyl9k7Lm4KlHI18cf6KsyXeYyLcns9Yy0ZdrVfQvXrRmiRqFKG2+5kFkpfhJsYqKHcIIN0hMu0=; X-YMail-OSG: MKQrMiQVM1nE_ULqZnXlQ3TCn9IV9SD2BZ8D9znvmVdcXhO1dMaQ_vkaP9aIzxQ1Xw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Cologne live looping festival video 2008 To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <133708.19984.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Here is my second video performance at the Cologne live looping festival http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrZ1hEFkOA I mixed some images on this one as well to keep my shoegazing from boring you. cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 11:59:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C3513BE87; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:59:22 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <368736.17409.qm@web59902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080831115922.15420@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <368736.17409.qm@web59902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: getting clean live loops - technique To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+tkIV9wR+tRJdSIyzn5khfmcddD4BhybJEIW+PTy mnNWvKHNXMgzL64j73wDGgaNnH0LLsSJxcoQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 1fLbLG9na0A7fMh0jjAzQ3s/Njh6dA47 Resent-Message-ID: <-k0rnC.A.lhC.ceouIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Hi JZ welcome to LD :-) When I first started looping, I had the problem that I hit the pedal slightly too late. So, practicing definetely helps (assuming there are no latency issues involved). Sometimes I have a rhythmic pattern that starts i.e. on "4", where I do this: Press the pedal for recording the loop on "1", skip the initial music however (i.e. start on 2/3) and add the beginning part (i.e. starting from 4) later to the loop using Overdub (either automatically or manually). If you want to start on anything other than 1, then you should be careful working with multiple loops. Instead of stopping a loop, you might want to simply mute them. Otherwise, when you retrigger a loop, it might start at some odd point. best regards and have fun looping! :-) Buzap -- Psssst! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 13:15:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EBB33BE7F; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBOT72h4b5Kg== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: AW: DJ techniques in live looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) - also for Jeff Larson! Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:15:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <7608CA7B-2B66-43E3-B64E-3D55EA572206@zonemobius.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 thread-index: AckLCrpNLdnKq7ONSAKr2DWzeSxNYgAXCzdw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, you said: > I don't pay much attention to the DJ world, but if I > understand correctly scratching is a combination of playback > direction changes with continuously variable rate shift. and continue to state: > This might sound similar to turntable scratching but I doubt > it would feel the same. We would probably need to experiment (To avoid any confusion: I won't talk about other DJ techniques in this discussion, like beat-aligning two turntables. This is beyond the scope here) First of all, looking at scratch DJs, the turntable or disc without any hand interaction is not at rest; the motor of the turntable is always (?) on. Then, while the description you suggest of signed playback speed is not what the DJ actually controls. With the exception of some specific maneuvers (see below for backspin), the DJ's fingers stay in contact with the vinyl, so what he controls is the differential sample position relative to the sample position at the time when he put his hand on the record. And he only controls that over a relatively narrow range. On exception is the backspin maneuver, where he gives the record a spin in reverse, resulting in some fast, reverse playback, which would gradually move back to normal playback, but is normally ended when the reverse speed is still very high by quickly tapping the record and thus returning to normal playback. Thus, I don't believe we would need to model the intertia/drag effects here. In between scratches, however, he will control sample position differentially or absolutely in a wider range, either by turning the record around in either direction, or by placing the stylus onto a different groove. But let's just ignore that here... > Crossfade that you mentioned would be much simpler, just make I believe, here we could either go with a button-controller susMute or, if that sounds bad, with a button-controlled very fast volume fade. The problem I see here is that this may be tricky for Mobius to have playback be controlled by sample position values, rather than by the usual transport concept. Can this be done? Rainer ps: If you have the time, you might want to go to a music store and see how e.g. Kaoss Pads implement this. With the KP3, the relevant patches are called SMP or LP. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 13:32:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21D9C3BE88; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2718090B-460B-4331-A0FF-9B2FDA410919@kliklak.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: loopers delight From: jayrope looper's delight Subject: Air Cushion Finish Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:32:00 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Hello all, Air Cushion Finish, originally a solo project of mine, is exploring instrumental acoustic guitar works in partially looped and experimental songwriting contexts. Since winter 2007 ACF is a duo of Berlin's outstanding singerlooper Lippstueck (Goldmund Festival/Girls United/etc...) and me. We recorded a very heartwarming slow-motion loop album called "Beleifuss" in March 2008, toured just a little, at last supporting Carla Bozoulich in Leipzig in April. Air Cushion Finish will next appear live at Berlin's very private underground outdoor location "Osthafen" in the late afternoon on Sept. 6, eventually completed by a yet unknown 2nd live act and surely by one of our favorite DJs in town: Monokid. Final concert time will be announced on kliklak.net's live dates section and eventually at our Myspace site. Come have a listen: http://www.myspace.com/madeinusb Hope to see some of you loopers out there. ... musically reporting from the forefront of gentrification: New Bad Berlin ,-) --- jayrope === musical === http://kliklak.net http://aircushionfinish.kliklak.net http://touchdonttouch.com http://myspace.com/prinzenallee === visual === http://jayropinsky.kliklak.net/thingship From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 14:07:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 822023BE88; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fcaefc61-5e41-4970-b6a4-d874be7201de_" X-Originating-IP: [142.46.8.6] From: Dave Lauzon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:07:06 -0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Aug 2008 14:07:06.0870 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA04E160:01C90B72] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:07:07 +0000 (UTC) --_fcaefc61-5e41-4970-b6a4-d874be7201de_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable _________________________________________________________________ Try Chicktionary=2C a game that tests how many words you can form from the = letters given. 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    = --_fcaefc61-5e41-4970-b6a4-d874be7201de_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 14:10:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71A873BE85; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=zd74qVwjYJ9/qaveFX8hTQw4PDV56Rqdvi11DgVLKYY=; b=e91ToshUtpfHPUQc3z5PZvY18ZrI14E9ebymWQQYWjU8E3uSwxCiwIuExe95ZfbO/v hr33ufxEGaEZkSNLh8sVfgKHjKBJLs4sajTznfN4Gh/pzgZ59V0dUn7MTVNfy3cEESNO lr4O3sMJAsYEM06GiCGqgzQI9qhJk89RRsjjw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=KPWbQww05lWjp0XFijdL+bIjFA890k98ldIqjV1SV5w1w3ZgjoN8nOaVHB/QoMzXiq lt7hgcz2MFpN7yfKsKsIQnFCWNdJkq5SmZZmDz+in3JXQ3WpdsdH3BuDB+H5vzzDVbO6 Le+iYtx3K5vKHB56EWCzWLVK/F9S1F4eTHDmM= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:10:05 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Ableton Live 5 question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4127_20638546.1220191805968" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:10:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4127_20638546.1220191805968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi. I am still in the process or working out how to do my jazz looping with Ableton 5. I have a question about MIDI remote control: Is there a way to get Ableton 5 to perform two different functions in response to one external MIDI note? I would like to hit one note and have it start playing scene 3 at the same time as it starts recording into scene 3 slot 3. I know you can set an option where it will always start recording on all armed tracks when you switch to a new scene, but I would like to have multiple tracks armed at all times, while only recording into one of them when the scene starts. Also, is there a way to get a function in Ableton 5 to be triggered by more than one note from the outside, i.e. "do this function if I play an F4 on channel 14 OR if you get a MIDI CC #10 message on channel 14"? -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_4127_20638546.1220191805968 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Hi.
    I am still in the process or working out how to do my jazz looping with Ableton 5. I have a question about MIDI remote control:

    Is there a way to get Ableton 5 to perform two different functions in response to one external MIDI note? I would like to hit one note and have it start playing scene 3 at the same time as it starts recording into scene 3 slot 3. I know you can set an option where it will always start recording on all armed tracks when you switch to a new scene, but I would like to have multiple tracks armed at all times, while only recording into one of them when the scene starts.

    Also, is there a way to get a function in Ableton 5 to be triggered by more than one note from the outside, i.e. "do this function if I play an F4 on channel 14 OR if you get a MIDI CC #10 message on channel 14"?

    --
    Mark Smart
    http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
    http://www.marksmart.net
    ------=_Part_4127_20638546.1220191805968-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 15:54:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AB883BE7F; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: VG-99 Yes it can Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:54:05 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 24.13.207.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: mizuho@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CAD998EE8885CD_151C_B22D_mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38575-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CAD998EE83C123-151C-5850@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:54:16 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CAD998EE8885CD_151C_B22D_mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Bill, The answer to your question is yes the amp sounds in the VG-99 are stunning. If adjusted right they can do any thing! The presets from the factory are useless and I believe that has thrown everyone in to a misconception of what is? the VG-99s true capabilities. I have a few clips you should check out of Fender style amps. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=853668 On the synth end of the VG-99 I keep find endless possibilities. Good luck Bill Ruppert ----------MB_8CAD998EE8885CD_151C_B22D_mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi Bill,
    The answer to your question is yes the amp sounds in the VG-99 are stunning.
    If adjusted right they can do any thing!
    The presets from the factory are useless and I believe that has thrown everyone in to a misconception of what is  the VG-99s true capabilities.

    I have a few clips you should check out of Fender style amps.

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=853668

    On the synth end of the VG-99 I keep find endless possibilities.
    Good luck
    Bill Ruppert     ----------MB_8CAD998EE8885CD_151C_B22D_mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 15:59:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02FC63BE8A; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:59:40 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: OT: Dummy-Plug Trick for SL-20 Slicer... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Okay, lately I've found myself treating my culture shock by feeding my GAS (which is not good; I've still got to work on that). The upshot, however, is that I've gotten a few nice pieces of gear lately, one of which is the SL-20 Slicer that Rick gave a wonderful initial review of a few days ago. While playing around with it tonight, I discovered a tip that I thought was worth passing on. I was scrolling through the 50 algorithms trying to see if there's a random pattern (there isn't), but since there's a "random" stereo pattern I got an idea. I tried applying Doug Baldwin's "dummy plug" idea, which he originally used to extend the DD-20 Gigadelay loop time from 21 to 42 seconds in Ping Pong mode. This works best while running in mono. Simply set up your Slicer with the standard mono in/mono out config you're probably already using. Now insert a "dummy" plug into the other stereo out. This can be an extra 1/4" adapter, an old patchcord, whatever... But the point is that it's a signal path that leads to a null: it goes nowhere. Why do this? Well, the Slicer offers all kinds of neat Stereo Output modes, but you normally can't do anything with them while running in mono. However, by slipping that plug/cord into the unused output, you now have access to them (well, the right half of them, at least; but this is actually a hidden strength). As I just mentioned, only the right side of the output is being heard. This enables you to add yet another extra layer of complexity to any of the (already overwhelming) 50 Slicer algos. You can now use the Random Stereo Mode to approximate a random or pseudo-random algorithm. Since you're only hearing every other note, the Ping-Pong Stereo Mode effectively cuts the Slicer tempo in half. This can be a great trick to quickly reach down and switch the slice into a old style Dub break (especially if used with delay). A second later, you can click back up to normal speed. The Auto mode is supposed to pan from one side to another. If you're only listening to one side, what you hear is the Slicer effect fading in, then fading out again, then back in, ad infinitum. The 3D Modes (3D Crossover & 3D Panning) are rather interesting, in that they're variations of the above. However, the 3D effect adds some interesting filtering and phasing effects to the algorithms. So, in summary, this little trick can add another 5 variations to each of the 50 algorithms. Combine this with the Attack/Duty and Effect/Direct Level controls, and the Slicer can actually be quite an expressive little box (even without having to kick in the Looper). --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 16:10:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 538503BE90; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8CAD998EE83C123-151C-5850@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAD998EE83C123-151C-5850@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 01:09:48 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: VG-99 Yes it can Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <8whZsC.A.MbD.fJsuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:10:07 +0000 (UTC) At 11:54 AM -0400 8/31/08, mizuho@aol.com wrote: >Hi Bill, >The answer to your question is yes the amp sounds in the VG-99 are stunning. >If adjusted right they can do any thing! >The presets from the factory are useless and I believe that has >thrown everyone in to a misconception of what is the VG-99s true >capabilities. > >I have a few clips you should check out of Fender style amps. > >http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=853668 > >On the synth end of the VG-99 I keep find endless possibilities. >Good luck >Bill Ruppert I'll give a big +1 (make that +++1) to Bill Ruppert's VG-99 chops. He's quite likely the top 99 programmer out there today (at least until David Coffin gets up to speed on a new VG-99 and can give him some competition <*big grin*>). There was a huge Soundclick page of Bill's that showed off an amazing array of what this instrument is capable of. Alas, that collection is no more, but I'm so glad that some of those soundclips survived. Thanks for chiming in, and great to see you lurking around here, Bill! :) --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 16:21:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB68F3BE8C; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 331 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:21:46 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wSe13TmJMgfbVLdZ2CsA:9 a=bxIs-KoNZRoDVb9_zd4tlhuDnDoA:4 a=cF_6qAr0opQA:10 a=ZUCc8-J6hhAA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=8b0TY1xhFYQA:10 a=ZMMvGhljroF5ZW6TcxkA:9 a=kRJcuva6nCOod-gkUUUA:7 a=rzOkHMxav5oiNTnyY4UFW3TQyQkA:4 a=gf3eBhatRjEA:10 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 From: loopbozo@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:16:14 +0000 Message-Id: <083120081616.1673.48BAC3CE00027F9D0000068922165499760196010D9F010104@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bG9vcGJvem9AY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_1673_1220199374_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:21:46 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_1673_1220199374_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can I quote you Dave? bryan -- Music and Mosaics bryanhelm.wordpress.com -------------- Original message -------------- From: Dave Lauzon --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_1673_1220199374_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Can I quote you Dave?
     
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    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_1673_1220199374_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 16:26:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8FB03BE8C; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5091D959-123A-4B4A-9A71-26168A4618B9@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: Re: VG-99 Yes it can Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:26:47 -0700 References: <8CAD998EE83C123-151C-5850@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Hear, hear! On all points, except that "competition" thing. Consider THAT race conceded. Period:) Could there be any more conclusive demonstration than Bill's clips that PLAYING chops are the essential ingredient in first-class PROGRAMMING chops? Not that there's any kind of a race, of course, or that I'm giving up anything; the 99 is a fascinating box and I'm determined to dig deep as soon as time permits. Bill's skills in both departments are simply beyond breath-taking, imo. It's marvelous that some of his clips are available again. I certainly hope some more Loopers get on the VG train, too. Can we hear YOUR VG work somewhere, Mech? Your review was great; very tantalizing-- thanks! dc On Aug 31, 2008, at 9:09 AM, Mech wrote: > I'll give a big +1 (make that +++1) to Bill Ruppert's VG-99 chops. > He's quite likely the top 99 programmer out there today (at least > until David Coffin gets up to speed on a new VG-99 and can give him > some competition <*big grin*>). > > There was a huge Soundclick page of Bill's that showed off an > amazing array of what this instrument is capable of. Alas, that > collection is no more, but I'm so glad that some of those soundclips > survived. > > Thanks for chiming in, and great to see you lurking around here, > Bill! :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 16:37:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0B283BE88; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: AW: AW: DJ techniques in live looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) - also for Jeff Larson! Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:37:43 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc123.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:37:50 +0000 (UTC) > With the exception of some specific maneuvers (see > below for backspin), the DJ's fingers stay in contact with the vinyl, so > what he controls is the differential sample position relative to the sample > position at the time when he put his hand on the record. And he only > controls that over a relatively narrow range. I'm not sure I understand, are you talking about rapid jumps backward and forward, like for example retriggering from the previous subcycle rather than from the beginning of the loop? The Slip script command will instantly move forward or backward some number of subcycles: # skip backward two subcycles Slip -2 The Move script command will instantly move to any location in the loop indicated by sample. It can be used with math functions to make relative moves that are not related to subcycles: # skip backward 1/2 second var newFrame frame - 22050 if newFrame < 0 set newFrame loopFrames + newFrame Move newFrame In both cases though the jumps are instant, if you wanted the sound of a record rapidly changing position we would have to do that with some very large rate shifts up or down that stop when we reach the desired location. That could probably be done in a script but it would be nicer with a built-in function like: # move to the specified frame by applying a 10x rate shift returning # to the previous rate when we reach the target frame Scratch newFrame 10.0 Is this closer to what you want? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 17:10:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C8A33BE81; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:10:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBOT72h4b5Kg== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: AW: AW: DJ techniques in live looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) - also for Jeff Larson! Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:09:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AckLh+i9a+giOVV1TNCRQKABhco0JQAAp1KQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: <3Y8-9D.A.vZG.oBtuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:10:00 +0000 (UTC) > I'm not sure I understand, are you talking about rapid jumps > backward and forward, like for example retriggering from the > previous subcycle rather than from the beginning of the loop? No - retriggering would be the DJ moving the needle to a different position. As long as the needle remains on the vinyl, you're not jumping, you're just moving very fast. > In both cases though the jumps are instant, if you wanted the > sound of a record rapidly changing position we would have to > do that with some very large rate shifts up or down that stop > when we reach the desired location. That could probably be > done in a script but it would be nicer with a built-in function like: > > # move to the specified frame by applying a 10x rate > shift returning > # to the previous rate when we reach the target frame > Scratch newFrame 10.0 > > Is this closer to what you want? Exactly. The way I understand this in theory, what a DJ does when he scratches (i.e. his hand remains in contact with the record, he is not spinning it) is to move forward and backward in a region of about 1/3 of a revolution, which would correspond (if I'm not miscalculating here) to roughly 100ms for an LP. For making the following description easier with the numbers, I assume that our "scratch time window" is 128ms long. I'm sticking with that one-dimensional ribbon controller concept in the following attempt to a description. Assume the player doesn't have his hands on the controller, so the loop is playing along at its set rate and in its set direction (for simplicty, I'm from now on assuming it's rateshift 0 and forward). Now, when at at time he puts his hand in the center of the controller (64), loop playback would pause. Now, if the player only moves to the side one controller step, we're not any wiser, because we do not get the speed of his movement, so we need at least two suceeding movements. Say, he moves from 64 to 60 in the course of 1ms. That means (with the scratch time windows of 128ms), we move along 4ms in reverse direction in 1ms. That means Mobius would need to set Rate to 24 and Reverse, then pause again. Does this make sense? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 18:36:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0F143BE85; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_0333268617474023 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:36:00 -0500 Subject: Re: AW: DJ techniques in live looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) - also for Jeff Larson! From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:36:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_0333268617474023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0AGreat observations Jeff -=0D=0A=0D=0AThe xponent does exactly w= hat you have supposed (the controller uses midi value 64 as the "normal spe= ed" .... and then any time you place you hand on the control surface and gi= ve it a tweek ..... the value jumps up or down .... basically indicating a = change in turntable velocity). So ... it's pretty easy to map it to the pl= ayback speed to that variable ...... though you also have to take into acco= unt the ability to "throw" the turntable ..... toss it forward or back ....= . and how quickly it will come back to it's default speed. The xponent con= troller handles this a little diffrerently .... there is a noteon command t= hat is issued when you touch/release the turntable ..... so from the minute= you release the turntable controller, the velocity will then trend back to= normal playback speed. Adjusting how quickly the speed returns to normal = play is akin to changing the friction between the record and the turntable = it sits on (which DJs do by buying different types of pads which sit betwee= n the turntable and the record.=0D=0A=0D=0ASo there you pretty much have it= ..... changing playback speed based on a midi value and then adding some m= ath to cause it to trend back to normal play when the controller is release= d. You also need a smoothing function ..... but that is basically it.=0D= =0A=0D=0ABy the way .... I also wrote a function to stack(overdub) while sc= ratching ..... which, of course means the recorded material will be pitch s= hifted (like recording to a tape deck but tweeking the speed knob as you re= cord). Crazy fun for me .... stacking with decay while scratching.=0D=0A= =0D=0A----------------------------------------=0D=0AFrom: Jeffrey Larson =0D=0ASent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 5:41 PM=0D=0ATo: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: AW: DJ techniques in l= ive looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) - also for Jeff Larson! =0D=0A= =0D=0A > Now Jeff (and this is why you're mentioned above): would it be = =0D=0Apossible to=0D=0A > control a loop in Mobius with one of these contro= llers like a =0D=0AKaoss pad, to=0D=0A > "sratch" the loop?=0D=0A=0D=0AI t= hink so but it would be a complicated script.=0D=0A=0D=0AI don't pay much a= ttention to the DJ world, but if I understand=0D=0Acorrectly scratching is = a combination of playback direction changes=0D=0Awith continuously variable= rate shift.=0D=0A=0D=0AWhen the turntable is at rest, you are at rate 0.0 = which is effectively=0D=0Aa pause. As you push the left side of the turnta= ble away from you=0D=0Athe record moves under the stylus in the normal dire= ction. The playback=0D=0Arate rises from 0.0 rapidly, levels off depending= on the=0D=0Aspeed of the hand motion, then drops rapidly back to 0.0 if th= e hand=0D=0Amotion stops. If the turntable is powered and the hand is remo= ved it=0D=0Arises or falls gradually to rate 1.0. Pulling the left side of= the=0D=0Aturntable toward you does the same in reverse.=0D=0A=0D=0AThe cha= llenge for the control script is converting a MIDI=0D=0Acontinuous controll= er value that bounces between 0 and 127 into a=0D=0Aset of rate and directi= on changes that sound like scratching.=0D=0A=0D=0AOne possibly would be con= sider the center of the range, 64, to=0D=0Abe the "resting" state where the= playback rate is 0.0 and direction=0D=0Ais meaningless. A control value o= f 127 would be a rate of 1.0 playing=0D=0Aforward and a control value of 0 = would be a rate of 1.0 playing in =0D=0Areverse.=0D=0AAs you move the cont= roller up and down we set the corresponding playback=0D=0Arate and directio= n.=0D=0A=0D=0AThis might sound similar to turntable scratching but I doubt = it would=0D=0Afeel the same. We would probably need to experiment with smo= othing=0D=0Aalgorithms to make the rate changes happen more gradually rathe= r than=0D=0Ajust jumping to the current controller value.=0D=0A=0D=0ACrossf= ade that you mentioned would be much simpler, just make=0D=0Aa control scri= pt that sets the output levels of two tracks or=0D=0Atwo groups of tracks. = Controlling the "curve" of the fade would=0D=0Abe the tricky part. Since = you can't do trig, exponents, or other=0D=0Acomplex math in scripts you wou= ld have to pre-calculate=0D=0Aa mapping array of 127 values that contained = the output levels to=0D=0Aapply to the tracks.=0D=0A=0D=0AJeff=0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_0333268617474023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Great observations Jeff -

    The xponent does exactly what you = have supposed (the controller uses midi value 64 as the "normal speed" ....= and then any time you place you hand on the control surface and give it a = tweek ..... the value jumps up or down .... basically indicating a change i= n turntable velocity).  So ... it's pretty easy to map it to the playb= ack speed to that variable ...... though you also have to take into account= the ability to "throw" the turntable ..... toss it forward or back ..... a= nd how quickly it will come back to it's default speed.  The xponent c= ontroller handles this a little diffrerently .... there is a noteon command= that is issued when you touch/release the turntable ..... so from the minu= te you release the turntable controller, the velocity will then trend back = to normal playback speed.  Adjusting how quickly the speed returns to = normal play is akin to changing the friction between the record and the tur= ntable it sits on (which DJs do by buying different types of pads which sit= between the turntable and the record.

    So there you pretty much have= it ..... changing playback speed based on a midi value and then adding som= e math to cause it to trend back to normal play when the controller is rele= ased.  You also need a smoothing function ..... but that is basically = it.

    By the way .... I also wrote a function to stack(overdub) while = scratching ..... which, of course means the recorded material will be pitch= shifted (like recording to a tape deck but tweeking the speed knob as you = record).  Crazy fun for me .... stacking with decay while scratching.<= br>






    From: Jeffrey Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com>
    Sent: Sat= urday, August 30, 2008 5:41 PM
    To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com
    Subject: Re: AW: DJ techniques in live = looping (Re: video on loop turntablism) - also for Jeff Larson!
    <= br>
    > Now Jeff (and this is why you're mentioned above): would it be=
    possible to
    > control a loop in Mobius with one of these contr= ollers like a
    Kaoss pad, to
    > "sratch" the loop?

    I think= so but it would be a complicated script.

    I don't pay much attention= to the DJ world, but if I understand
    correctly scratching is a combinat= ion of playback direction changes
    with continuously variable rate shift.=

    When the turntable is at rest, you are at rate 0.0 which is effecti= vely
    a pause. As you push the left side of the turntable away from you<= br>the record moves under the stylus in the normal direction. The playback=
    rate rises from 0.0 rapidly, levels off depending on the
    speed of th= e hand motion, then drops rapidly back to 0.0 if the hand
    motion stops. = If the turntable is powered and the hand is removed it
    rises or falls g= radually to rate 1.0. Pulling the left side of the
    turntable toward you= does the same in reverse.

    The challenge for the control script is c= onverting a MIDI
    continuous controller value that bounces between 0 and = 127 into a
    set of rate and direction changes that sound like scratching.=

    One possibly would be consider the center of the range, 64, to
    b= e the "resting" state where the playback rate is 0.0 and direction
    is me= aningless. A control value of 127 would be a rate of 1.0 playing
    forwar= d and a control value of 0 would be a rate of 1.0 playing in
    reverse.<= br>As you move the controller up and down we set the corresponding playback=
    rate and direction.

    This might sound similar to turntable scratc= hing but I doubt it would
    feel the same. We would probably need to expe= riment with smoothing
    algorithms to make the rate changes happen more gr= adually rather than
    just jumping to the current controller value.
    Crossfade that you mentioned would be much simpler, just make
    a control= script that sets the output levels of two tracks or
    two groups of track= s. Controlling the "curve" of the fade would
    be the tricky part. Since= you can't do trig, exponents, or other
    complex math in scripts you woul= d have to pre-calculate
    a mapping array of 127 values that contained the= output levels to
    apply to the tracks.

    Jeff


    ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_0333268617474023-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 19:30:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA9323BE80; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBOT72h4b5Kg== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: Jeff's scratching - a pseudo VHDL code Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:30:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AckLh+i9a+giOVV1TNCRQKABhco0JQAEyN+A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: <9lbYm.A.iPC.HFvuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:30:15 +0000 (UTC) As an extension to my last message, here is some pseudo VHDL code (that's because I'm not at all familiar what scripting language can do right now - what's the status of the documentation?) to describe what I think needs to be done: -- I won't deal with variable declaration here -- things we get externally: "controller", which is an integer describing the finger position, "finger", a boolean stating whether the finger is on -- the controller or not, finally "clk", a clock for the process. There's a constant "clk_delta", which is the clock half-period in ms. -- process scratching is begin wait until finger'event and finger -- wait until you put a finger on the controller pause -- pauses playback direction_s <= direction -- used to store playback direction (Forward or Backward) rate_s <= rate -- and rate ctrl_last <= controller -- store current finger position ctrl_last2 <= controller loop: scratching -- inner loop; active while finger is on the controller wait until clock'event if controller = ctrl_last AND controller = ctrl_last2 then pause -- pause playback if finger hasn't moved for last two clocks elsif controller != ctrl_last then play ctrl_delta = controller - ctrl_last if ctrl_delta > 0 then -- check for playing direction if direction_s = forward then forward else backward end if elsif if direction_s = forward then backward else forward end if end if pbspeed = ctrl_delta/clk_delta -- playback speed scale factor is the controller delta since last clk'event divided by clk_delta rate = ln(pbspeed)*17,3123404906676 -- ugly scale factor to convert from pbspeed to rate end if if not finger then exit scratching -- exit from loop end if end scratching loop -- if in the loop the finger is lifted, we resume here direction <= direction_s rate <= rate_s play end process scratching Hope that helps to explain what I'm after. Aaron, I'd also like to hear your comments if you'd like. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 19:49:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 900C93BE7F; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=g2hEMn6QLs7H3ptdO0uy00uG37Y4bGCCnUiGQ4rrpuc=; b=lruiJXZ/6lh66UZh7vun05XM9TNqaFIvHnNlkzvZqhNCOJm7gbFcCBf7K6xiZDUnM/ 1HEMKEBbN2g6PxG9qoQq4W9PmJ3K+em3gJ7BAO1Ik1wb6wwO902bLyTU5UrgNUFB+aYn FJPgAqUy0GVTeVeBG1s3LosseIZ5maybqjufY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wtdMiES4cd1AogMZt2Stg4+8cUW9FWtYy809mbO2BKV29ggXmAmzZdrmmCRjXtrZ7C c8fVZcOkCXi0RdUdX0JxuIiJP/BQYeG6u1pyNroceH1GW2kXlJ0U9rxzJL3hNkosoHXS YzGVuEU9kW9CsAAo6QrMF7C8c58kTIdHLWXYw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808311249n479b32cuc525f967251b56fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:49:45 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ableton Live 5 question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:49:46 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > Is there a way to get Ableton 5 to perform two different functions in > response to one external MIDI note? I would like to hit one note and have it > start playing scene 3 at the same time as it starts recording into scene 3 > slot 3. I know you can set an option where it will always start recording on > all armed tracks when you switch to a new scene, but I would like to have > multiple tracks armed at all times, while only recording into one of them > when the scene starts. But, even if you should assign a MIDI note directly to the specific slot, to record into, (instead of to the scene trigger slot on the master track) you would have to set the track into record armed mode! No recording can ever happen unless the track is record armed. > Also, is there a way to get a function in Ableton 5 to be triggered by more > than one note from the outside, i.e. "do this function if I play an F4 on > channel 14 OR if you get a MIDI CC #10 message on channel 14"? Yes, but not directly. What you can do is to not bind your MIDI events directly to the functions/commands in Live but to certain "function/command controlling MIDI clips" that you may create. Inside those clips you can put the MIDI events that are assigned to trigger the function/command and then you either set the output to the IAC Bus (if using Mac OS X. But there's a third-party solution for Windows as well). Related: In Live 7 it is possible to assign a MIDI event to many functions/commands. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 21:17:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C1263BE87; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rick Walker" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Dummy-Plug Trick for SL-20 Slice Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: <20080831211528.M60925@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050317 X-OriginatingIP: 63.249.86.103 (looppool) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Dear Mech Your dummy plug trick is such a clever and simple idea and really makes things interesting for the slicer. Thanks for thinking of it. It's one of those great ideas that are so simple that I think, "why didn't I think of that" You made my day, Mech, thanks! -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 21:25:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C8723BE85; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:25:00 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RSKiTrsxDoQA:10 a=M_GsAszOhkoA:10 a=Ran9P0GNXiqWSn-wqikA:9 a=hww9_Nef6sxtOpsB-ysA:7 a=ioJgK2wVVkbcoPRcxmCQi2HKnWQA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Gaber Subject: Re: Jeff's scratching - a pseudo VHDL code Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:19:28 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:25:00 +0000 (UTC) I dont know whats going on here and I dont really care either, but that is hilarious. On Aug 31, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > As an extension to my last message, here is some pseudo VHDL code > (that's > because I'm not at all familiar what scripting language can do > right now - > what's the status of the documentation?) to describe what I think > needs to > be done: > > -- I won't deal with variable declaration here > -- things we get externally: "controller", which is an integer > describing > the finger position, "finger", a boolean stating whether the finger > is on > -- the controller or not, finally "clk", a clock for the process. > There's a > constant "clk_delta", which is the clock half-period in ms. > -- > > process scratching is > begin > wait until finger'event and finger -- wait until you put a > finger on the controller > pause -- pauses playback > direction_s <= direction -- used to store playback > direction (Forward or Backward) > rate_s <= rate -- and rate > ctrl_last <= controller -- store current finger > position > ctrl_last2 <= controller > loop: scratching -- inner loop; > active while finger is on the controller > wait until clock'event > if controller = ctrl_last AND controller = ctrl_last2 then > pause -- pause playback if > finger hasn't moved for last two clocks > elsif controller != ctrl_last then > play > ctrl_delta = controller - ctrl_last > if ctrl_delta > 0 then -- check for playing > direction > if direction_s = forward then > forward > else > backward > end if > elsif > if direction_s = forward then > backward > else > forward > end if > end if > pbspeed = ctrl_delta/clk_delta -- playback speed > scale factor is the controller delta since last clk'event divided by > clk_delta > rate = ln(pbspeed)*17,3123404906676 -- ugly scale > factor to convert from pbspeed to rate > end if > if not finger then > exit scratching -- exit from > loop > end if > end scratching loop > -- if in the loop the finger is lifted, we resume here > direction <= direction_s > rate <= rate_s > play > end process scratching > > Hope that helps to explain what I'm after. Aaron, I'd also like to > hear your > comments if you'd like. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 21:43:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA1A03BE85; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Compressor (was M13 has arrived) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:42:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000101c90bb2$7e589ab0$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <5411.47542.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: <3Hgh3B.A.l8H.rBxuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:43:07 +0000 (UTC) > Luis wrote: > Thanx a lot for the tips,so which compressor limiter are u > using? I'm using a DBX 166XL. It offers very good value for the money, it's simple to use and has a noise gate + limiter too. I think you could find a used one for 125 EUR, and new for 225,- --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 21:48:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAE333BE85; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <8CAD998EE83C123-151C-5850@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAD998EE83C123-151C-5850@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <11ae89d9a679a8da2779bc5db6a6ce62@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: VG-99 Yes it can Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:48:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <-9LHd.A.CR.VGxuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Wow, all those were very nice indeed. Thanks for sharing. > Hi Bill, > The answer to your question is yes the amp sounds in the VG-99 are=20 > stunning. > If adjusted right they can do any thing! > The presets from the factory are useless and I believe that has=20 > thrown everyone in to a misconception of what is=A0 the VG-99s true=20 > capabilities. > > I have a few clips you should check out of Fender style amps. > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=3D853668 > > On the synth end of the VG-99 I keep find endless possibilities. > Good luck > Bill Ruppert > Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices & More!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 21:57:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6877C3BE85; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:57:17 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20080831215717.26400@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Cutting up the FCB-1010 (removing expression pedals)? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18QQZgNgOgQmXHOs/x4v+jW4qIWkBPCHgxpTbiH8N e5GgX4l4tr0MnfcJILp5yK5gJlawBXDjUxPQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: iiuOfBtARkkNEd1hiGVqxSdudWkvKBNM Resent-Message-ID: <3mvaxD.A.Dt._OxuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks it would be kind of neat to have the Behringer FCB-1010 as a more compact option _without_ expression pedals. And only take additional pedals if you need them. Looking inside the FCB1010: http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Music/images/IMG_0230.jpg It could be actually possible: Cut the metal case off right where the pedals begin, cut off the pedals, externalize the power supply. What do you think? Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 22:26:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97E2C3BE85; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q6huzEZnD5cA:10 a=M05rFLAXJcIA:10 a=rPivnWn4AAAA:8 a=VVlED5B4AAAA:8 a=rWP_z7cE4qYgsAhJs1gA:9 a=cMxv-ltCDPTUscWP4XMA:7 a=KJ5p0ihF-JH6xfOAYiX1mA0ibRYA:4 a=f8wx18uYv8gA:10 In-Reply-To: <20080831215717.26400@gmx.net> References: <20080831215717.26400@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <05B68B74-7F79-4863-A7AA-13540BC26D16@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: Cutting up the FCB-1010 (removing expression pedals)? Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:26:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:26:57 +0000 (UTC) bob charest, who i found on the FCB list, is doing this for me right =20 now!!! he's a professional musician in maine and has many =20 talents...he posted photos of his pedal-removal job up the FCB group =20 list and i was very impressed. anyway, he agreed to do it, and i shipped him a pedal for him to =20 modify. the pedals are coming off and the power supply will go in a =20 little box that i'll mount in my rig (which will send power down a =20 midi cable). there are other ways you could do the power thing, i =20 decided that was the best option for me. i talked to him yesterday and he was just painting the finished =20 product with a black flake finish (!!). i should get it this week. i asked him if he wanted to keep it a =20 secret or not, but he says he is into the idea of this being a little =20= sideline. i'm very exited! On Aug 31, 2008, at 2:57 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > it would be kind of neat to have the Behringer FCB-1010 as a more =20 > compact option _without_ expression pedals. And only take =20 > additional pedals if you need them. > > Looking inside the FCB1010: > http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Music/images/IMG_0230.jpg > It could be actually possible: Cut the metal case off right where =20 > the pedals begin, cut off the pedals, externalize the power supply. > > What do you think? > > Buzap > --=20 > GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spa=DF haben mit =20 > Pastry Passion! > http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/=20 > puzzle/6169196 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 22:39:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2FEC3BE82; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lyC2BeMJyF1hhZ0cCRBDJIBXQbqvnGsEZD1OzbOMRow=; b=BPKzwQ04088JhFpsqRhKJjiORRpxbflsFPHsrLMABptmGgEEck+6eH2njLib+V6d5d XazGv6VEI3vWFKnYcOu6bTd3UZMeLur151Bk31Ch1dtAyTto6xTG9EcAWl1DKBlT7sQP rre39SpyNnNkssdZtFWmrjzjjiJFYP+YzF6Fo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=xwO1OeuwfvV0FXjnqvqr49V/VYn20vJQBS6itbC2IaWrj8udd0f5oJk7ilu5psC99l 4izuDJkCvnNuzOITy55huB7aP2LFdEBQo7JlroABaXJaGITZGPILtux/D9qy8UMW3b6V DdrYJpVtx75BZ30p4ZMsu4w2l3fc0uyoeKSuc= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:39:03 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ableton Live 5 question In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808311249n479b32cuc525f967251b56fe@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5971_11904979.1220222343648" References: <66f9cc1e0808311249n479b32cuc525f967251b56fe@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:39:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5971_11904979.1220222343648 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > But, even if you should assign a MIDI note directly to the specific > slot, to record into, (instead of to the scene trigger slot on the > master track) you would have to set the track into record armed mode! > No recording can ever happen unless the track is record armed. > I know. But I like to keep a lot of tracks armed all the time so I can switch easily between instruments (guitar, keyboard, Continuum, wind controller). > Yes, but not directly. What you can do is to not bind your MIDI events > directly to the functions/commands in Live but to certain > "function/command controlling MIDI clips" that you may create. Inside > those clips you can put the MIDI events that are assigned to trigger > the function/command and then you either set the output to the IAC Bus > (if using Mac OS X. But there's a third-party solution for Windows as > well). > > Related: > In Live 7 it is possible to assign a MIDI event to many functions/commands. > I think I figured out a solution. On my Yamaha foot controller I can get it to send out multiple CC messages in response to one pedal hit. I finally got this to work after a lot of trial and error. If you want to start scene 3 and record into scene 3 slot 3 at the same time, you have to send it the "start scene 3" message BEFORE you send it the "record/play slot 3 scene 3". Otherwise its response is intermittent. So for doing the guitar stuff I will use the foot controller, and for the keyboard I will have 6 buttons near the right side of the keyboard (2 buttons each for 3 slots). Right now I'm doing this with my Peavey slider box sitting by te keyboard, but I think I'm gonna get an M-Audio Oxygen 49 with programmable buttons. In this case it's good to have them on separate buttons so I can start the drum beat before I start recording. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_5971_11904979.1220222343648 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


    On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
    But, even if you should assign a MIDI note directly to the specific
    slot, to record into, (instead of to the scene trigger slot on the
    master track) you would have to set the track into record armed mode!
    No recording can ever happen unless the track is record armed.

    I know. But I like to keep a lot of tracks armed all the time so I can switch easily between instruments (guitar, keyboard, Continuum, wind controller).

     
    Yes, but not directly. What you can do is to not bind your MIDI events
    directly to the functions/commands in Live but to certain
    "function/command controlling MIDI clips" that you may create. Inside
    those clips you can put the MIDI events that are assigned to trigger
    the function/command and then you either set the output to the IAC Bus
    (if using Mac OS X. But there's a third-party solution for Windows as
    well).

    Related:
    In Live 7 it is possible to assign a MIDI event to many functions/commands.

    I think I figured out a solution. On my Yamaha foot controller I can get it to send out multiple CC messages in response to one pedal hit. I finally got this to work after a lot of trial and error. If you want to start scene 3 and record into scene 3 slot 3 at the same time, you have to send it the "start scene 3" message BEFORE you send it the "record/play slot 3 scene 3". Otherwise its response is intermittent.

    So for doing the guitar stuff I will use the foot controller, and for the keyboard I will have 6 buttons near the right side of the keyboard (2 buttons each for 3 slots). Right now I'm doing this with my Peavey slider box sitting by te keyboard, but I think I'm gonna get an M-Audio Oxygen 49 with programmable buttons. In this case it's good to have them on separate buttons so I can start the drum beat before I start recording.

    --
    Mark Smart
    http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
    http://www.marksmart.net
    ------=_Part_5971_11904979.1220222343648-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 31 22:54:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 972953BE85; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2457 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:54:23 UTC Message-ID: <48BB181B.4010105@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:15:55 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cutting up the FCB-1010 (removing expression pedals)? References: <20080831215717.26400@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080831215717.26400@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7-Z99.A.nLD.fEyuIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/83419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > it would be kind of neat to have the Behringer FCB-1010 as a more compact option _without_ expression pedals. And only take additional pedals if you need them. > > Looking inside the FCB1010: > http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Music/images/IMG_0230.jpg > It could be actually possible: Cut the metal case off right where the pedals begin, cut off the pedals, externalize the power supply. > > What do you think? > > Buzap It was discussed in here in detail very resently, and yes, it's fairly easily done. Just cut off one or both swells + the powersuppy, and search the net for fcb1010 phantom power mod (through 7-pin midi cable). -- rgds, van Sinn Damn, I leave you guys for a month or so, and I get hundreds of mails in on this channel.. ;) Good to be back - was sound proofing my ceiling.. From bpol@poste.it Sun Aug 31 22:56:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:56:33 UTC Received: from m055.home.net.pl (m055.home.net.pl [62.129.253.55]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 268303BE7C for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from static-76-161-104-130.dsl.cavtel.net (HELO user) (info.bzpb@home@76.161.104.130) by m055.home.net.pl with SMTP; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:49:52 -0000 From: "Poste Italiane" Subject: Misure di sicurezza di cliente di BancoPosta ID 42501 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:49:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20080831225633.268303BE7C@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:;

       
                                                          
     
     
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