From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 00:44:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4C2A3BF3F; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=NTTwgumK+vf2XUoC0NJiRzT/OEZK0VFd5Pj9NPCP6jhRbG/e9Zt2t+g8j6fjT5oqFJc4Eu7f4YsTb4seRR35IEfcCfxK5ATjo6K5fo3gO+ljx3kj2WtyaFfKEOUgjjAOYlB9EpGDLY1t6O2T11iZjLlhSwkhgXmbJYUGXu4IjW8=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:44:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Flash videoclip To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1933C69C-E754-4588-896D-482D32F451A7@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <859035.28279.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Hey Simon very nice! curious,what kind of pickup system are u using on your acoustic to use the ebow effectively? cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Chris Gaber wrote: > From: Chris Gaber > Subject: Re: Flash videoclip > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 5:29 AM > Very cool. I love the visuals. It goes very well with the > music. I > checked out your other vids too. Nice way to start off the > week. > > Thanks. > > Chris > > Chicago > > On Jun 30, 2008, at 6:52 AM, projektGmail wrote: > > > Hi Loopers > > > > I've made a flash videoclip on this improvisation > called "jonathan". > > Simon(me): Acoustic-guitar with Echoplex and E-bow > > Erna: Piano > > > > http://www.projekt67.com/videos/jonathan.html > > > > Simon, > > www.projekt67.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 03:17:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B19D3BF45; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 04:17:26 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: RE: Flash videoclip MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 87.66.110.99 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <4EFu9B.A.4XC.IHaaIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi Simon, The music and the video are great, I really enjoyed it :) Are you from Ho= lland? Me too Sjaak http://home.scarlet.be/gare-d-anvers/sjaak/ =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 10:58:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A5B63BF41; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:58:52 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Flash videoclip To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/3x3FCBpP3B8iHFOKdR1kwJGI4y9oWhZZzTHI4r2 cAaINRmS7cG9mEvsRSXk0LHUal9OSWLoQEcg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 1DpZfDgef2IsOv5yl21o+LV4dWxlc9Zr Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Nice song :) I just love the E-Bow guitar sound (don't play it though - yet? ;-). It has such a great sound, especially on fretless guitar, i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1VLlbUlfeg Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 11:36:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CC723BF42; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:36:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=bxQKBMGqJECNwo4MYCZX/SL0nU2JLwq97bZiFUutrK8=; b=GEqo6UfQgy0BVt4HdwtiVKlHbIZvlXNPStKiWeh/wTbBZcEAH3j6l/vz1+3yIlocgg WDu6OtzLigYA6hj33+J35uTm/KoGxQa5vb6OcvsdsHNZWHfiT0sz1AjK4zT4ASU65KhH ICsmZSgM0Qr8/qsshGJUidrk8dze9dDP+MKqg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=RVy7207tYOWLxh3h5Cccz4XAWgBxmxBym3bmsB9ntmA2gWS+N4/A6M0YJh9oP9SiJg VgYrUj5RmDJdsQXJGO/f/U/JHbn0LKXSrm3XQQa4Qf4xzo0+3HSUt+6snHwFHlbOLZgg hHlfaIsE1pvGAqNw5ksc+4ZrVYTQysk5h8WJs= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:36:05 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Flash videoclip In-Reply-To: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18465_26003307.1214912165162" References: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:36:10 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_18465_26003307.1214912165162 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I prefer the video not so the music. nice player anyway. thanks for sending us free media!!!!!! love it! cheers, raul 2008/7/1 Buzap Buzap : > Nice song :) > > I just love the E-Bow guitar sound (don't play it though - yet? ;-). > It has such a great sound, especially on fretless guitar, i.e. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg > > Buzap > > -- > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? > Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > > --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_18465_26003307.1214912165162 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I prefer the video not so the music.
nice player anyway.
thanks for s= ending us free media!!!!!!
love it!

cheers,
raul

2008/7/1 Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>:
Nice song :)

I just love the E-Bow guitar sound (don't play it though - yet? ;-). It has such a great sound, especially on fretless guitar, i.e. http://www.y= outube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg

Buzap

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TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_18465_26003307.1214912165162-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 11:52:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43A463BF47; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+sbygAIHdPCOurndDjgwIaNBdIHHDK0E55irti4Mxw0=; b=D7KFrxGYRwZ1undItDZmP1A9u2smHiJDzL7g55yDtgSNLtO8eahppqYLeV2JvKYnMf SkDVzeNWtv50HqbR96F6A2yOlUxTrFHhTQEtIwa/pawl67v6qgmyasUJJW6D4ZXLbMBh 0jUBpS32J39uwVEbfouk6VtuULzcckTbP8aEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=EGfMI5g5L6R4UQlbozKwBrUvtACQCFSYZt4GdjSUQtigN1UREt/GyAZu3A9zISsOuL jPE5MVAxcyXP2y5g0H62ffRn//8HB+SMMW6xBIfc/87Tt+3V76XZij+VnrLWB7BBtqcN hkuS5YOfXtLILOqUJjcTjTZoop9IDwa7SzLVg= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:52:27 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: hey all, new Baltimore member...electronic drum looper... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70806301548x63ee994bn37471ff57f5cd059@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18545_13320320.1214913147932" References: <499c6bd70806241721r471654c2q316f65e1602d80fc@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70806301548x63ee994bn37471ff57f5cd059@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9CnxP.A.qs.9phaIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:52:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_18545_13320320.1214913147932 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline if some time passes and you can't find it, then the answer to your question will be obviously: yes. joking! nice to see you are the only looper in baltimore. sorry again joking ... he, he peace, raul 2008/7/1 Dave : > Is this the wrong place to attempt to locate local loopers?... > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Dave wrote: > >> How's everything? Well, I hope... >> >> I'm trying to find some looper(s) to join me, a looping electronic >> drummer. >> >> Looking for some free-form-ish musicians to jam regularly, possibly setup >> gigs later. Someone that can count time and knows a little about chord >> progressions preferred. I'm into stuff like ProjeKct 3, The Hosemobile, >> Tuner, Gordian Knot, etc...kind of neo-fusion, dark, heavy, electronic >> instrumentation/effects, 3rd World Kinetic Sensual, New World Technocrat, >> always somewhat improvised...but "thinked". I have an electronic drum kit, >> an RC50 loop pedal, the place to jam, a small PA setup and minor (but >> decent) recording equipment. I am no Bill Bruford, nor anything close, but I >> know what I like and I wanna have some fun figurin' it out. Oh, you should >> also be somewhat party-able... >> >> I'm on the West side of Baltimore, outside the city line...Gwynn Oak, MD. >> Drop me a line. >> >> ciao! >> Dave >> >> -- >> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > > > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_18545_13320320.1214913147932 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline if some time passes and you can't find it, then the answer to your question will be obviously: yes.

joking!
nice to see you are the only looper in baltimore.

sorry again joking ...

he, he

peace,
raul

2008/7/1 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>:
Is this the wrong place to attempt to locate local loopers?...


On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
How's everything? Well, I hope...

I'm trying to find some looper(s) to join me, a looping electronic drummer.

Looking for some free-form-ish musicians to jam regularly, possibly setup gigs later. Someone that can count time and knows a little about chord progressions preferred. I'm into stuff like ProjeKct 3, The Hosemobile, Tuner, Gordian Knot, etc...kind of neo-fusion, dark, heavy, electronic instrumentation/effects, 3rd World Kinetic Sensual, New World Technocrat, always somewhat improvised...but "thinked". I have an electronic drum kit, an RC50 loop pedal, the place to jam, a small PA setup and minor (but decent) recording equipment. I am no Bill Bruford, nor anything close, but I know what I like and I wanna have some fun figurin' it out. Oh, you should also be somewhat party-able...

I'm on the West side of Baltimore, outside the city line...Gwynn Oak, MD. Drop me a line.

ciao!
Dave

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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



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The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_18545_13320320.1214913147932-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 11:58:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 911F33BF48; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=j17ASFQ5gFDBkcJDtOVLK1UDwXDsXH/WZSTyIuilEIE=; b=keSlwW2/Z+9x2MyfrTRCgBalBdieOBUSvzg4ikvNiWzTmPvkKJ8IR/XU3mjEcPgicm Rm0opHlNW9Babl20WlbNlvA07XPCv8/IFZ8INpy4ztwWhjZOnwes++GtXDlIc4lEuEbD fGDZ6NcwcRGmDk8YDgvh6Py+HgIPmPrRLkJBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=nwuGEdNAFSRZcAZ7BusqbiU7J/Q8DQi5Nco2VMIEdUk/r/nlFuHMbJesDnS1QMwocy /YQWEbbmV1Z4EVsKGD9bAz90whgaqc36hC5XemWaATUaNGaXktmakb2ZCtn7PGYyoNiU +oOkiYmliY1pPEmNzx9jrhvH1mwXU/D863DPE= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807010458m73db9de1p6b45a6a5cfa5b259@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 07:58:04 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: hey all, new Baltimore member...electronic drum looper... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32198_17963239.1214913484626" References: <499c6bd70806241721r471654c2q316f65e1602d80fc@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70806301548x63ee994bn37471ff57f5cd059@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:58:06 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_32198_17963239.1214913484626 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Funny guy...don't make me wrap a loop around ya! On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > if some time passes and you can't find it, then the answer to your question > will be obviously: yes. > > joking! > nice to see you are the only looper in baltimore. > > sorry again joking ... > > he, he > > peace, > raul > > 2008/7/1 Dave : > > Is this the wrong place to attempt to locate local loopers?... >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Dave wrote: >> >>> How's everything? Well, I hope... >>> >>> I'm trying to find some looper(s) to join me, a looping electronic >>> drummer. >>> >>> Looking for some free-form-ish musicians to jam regularly, possibly setup >>> gigs later. Someone that can count time and knows a little about chord >>> progressions preferred. I'm into stuff like ProjeKct 3, The Hosemobile, >>> Tuner, Gordian Knot, etc...kind of neo-fusion, dark, heavy, electronic >>> instrumentation/effects, 3rd World Kinetic Sensual, New World Technocrat, >>> always somewhat improvised...but "thinked". I have an electronic drum kit, >>> an RC50 loop pedal, the place to jam, a small PA setup and minor (but >>> decent) recording equipment. I am no Bill Bruford, nor anything close, but I >>> know what I like and I wanna have some fun figurin' it out. Oh, you should >>> also be somewhat party-able... >>> >>> I'm on the West side of Baltimore, outside the city line...Gwynn Oak, MD. >>> Drop me a line. >>> >>> ciao! >>> Dave >>> >>> -- >>> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >>> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >> >> >> >> >> -- >> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >> > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_32198_17963239.1214913484626 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Funny guy...don't make me wrap a loop around ya!

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
if some time passes and you can't find it, then the answer to your question will be obviously: yes.

joking!
nice to see you are the only looper in baltimore.

sorry again joking ...

he, he

peace,
raul

2008/7/1 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>:

Is this the wrong place to attempt to locate local loopers?...


On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
How's everything? Well, I hope...

I'm trying to find some looper(s) to join me, a looping electronic drummer.

Looking for some free-form-ish musicians to jam regularly, possibly setup gigs later. Someone that can count time and knows a little about chord progressions preferred. I'm into stuff like ProjeKct 3, The Hosemobile, Tuner, Gordian Knot, etc...kind of neo-fusion, dark, heavy, electronic instrumentation/effects, 3rd World Kinetic Sensual, New World Technocrat, always somewhat improvised...but "thinked". I have an electronic drum kit, an RC50 loop pedal, the place to jam, a small PA setup and minor (but decent) recording equipment. I am no Bill Bruford, nor anything close, but I know what I like and I wanna have some fun figurin' it out. Oh, you should also be somewhat party-able...

I'm on the West side of Baltimore, outside the city line...Gwynn Oak, MD. Drop me a line.

ciao!
Dave

--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_32198_17963239.1214913484626-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 13:00:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C34A3BF48; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <95e4e4ce0807010600i79e9500dr35e3cf1e60b7305b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:00:21 +0200 From: ki.ber.kom.uni.st Sender: kiber@uni.st To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: software looper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: b809909902b7cd3c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:00:23 +0000 (UTC) > Just as a point of reference, SooperLooper's OSC interface has been > used to create alternative GUIs. Here is a demo video posted by a > user of one such interface they created: > http://www.viddler.com/explore/marcell/videos/7/ it's pleasure to work and develop with sooperloooper.. regarding visuals... one of the reasons why i picked up Qt framework is that it has quite good support to play with the graphic representation of the widgets... in topot (alternative gui for sooperlooper) the main widget is QtOpenGL.QGLWidget and the rest is separated and run as QGraphicsScene and QGraphicsView. separation of gui from sooperlooper engine through osc allows one to run an extra separated instance of gui (could be another computer in lan) which represents everything which the original shows in real time + one could do some visual processing of that extra QGraphicsView. i will not be able to work on that visual part for some time but if anyone is interested here are few links with the documentation of what could possible be done: http://web.mit.edu/qt-dynamic_v4.3.3/www/graphicsview.html#graphics-view http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Graphics/Examples http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Graphics/About/Dojo http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/06/27/accelerate-your-widgets-with-opengl/ and topot repository is at: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=topot.git;a=summary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 17:12:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7364D3BF4D; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6XQjcscmbZefiSiPTM72/u53WjywYMXqsGZk2m0ug0A=; b=u4Phdo5ltTJfdINlUOOtJegYkMsoB71AVtOm0pjXifvbczjZ0ZYHd/tyWEviA+I57g BU0ZAlRf+pd5uSx+s8KVrnRauGA2Ve/9uLB5dERxYnaEZmg80Uy8ovWhBCEkbA/OZk2x G/7UgIRaIAKVHzXc7IQ7LcTqzMdR1aK/Aav6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=vB5mHj3JrtadULXBYlk5WcgLb3cBY3/nPdyi9z3jLqDD4WBkLqms4/RZVVrZ1N7tM0 eSDh1A05bFbK/R1XVRknmdApwtOc1XiDY6xSPVo29gXzRHRM8vozh+giYAHsg6j925zk h3jr4B0DkFSd8zTWFKTFMX/5V+ZHSmT12d1q8= Message-ID: <64b81a780807011012h295675a5u56337abf2cf40523@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:12:50 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: hey all, new Baltimore member...electronic drum looper... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70807010458m73db9de1p6b45a6a5cfa5b259@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70806241721r471654c2q316f65e1602d80fc@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70806301548x63ee994bn37471ff57f5cd059@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70807010458m73db9de1p6b45a6a5cfa5b259@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:12:53 +0000 (UTC) For some reason, Maryland loopers haven't yet found LD in large numbers. As an Annapolitan musician, I know many folks in my local scene that are looping to some extent, but none of them hang around here. Not sure why. I guess it's one of those great mysteries. Todd On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Dave wrote: > Funny guy...don't make me wrap a loop around ya! > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> >> if some time passes and you can't find it, then the answer to your >> question will be obviously: yes. >> >> joking! >> nice to see you are the only looper in baltimore. >> >> sorry again joking ... >> >> he, he >> >> peace, >> raul >> >> 2008/7/1 Dave : >>> >>> Is this the wrong place to attempt to locate local loopers?... >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Dave wrote: >>>> >>>> How's everything? Well, I hope... >>>> >>>> I'm trying to find some looper(s) to join me, a looping electronic >>>> drummer. >>>> >>>> Looking for some free-form-ish musicians to jam regularly, possibly >>>> setup gigs later. Someone that can count time and knows a little about chord >>>> progressions preferred. I'm into stuff like ProjeKct 3, The Hosemobile, >>>> Tuner, Gordian Knot, etc...kind of neo-fusion, dark, heavy, electronic >>>> instrumentation/effects, 3rd World Kinetic Sensual, New World Technocrat, >>>> always somewhat improvised...but "thinked". I have an electronic drum kit, >>>> an RC50 loop pedal, the place to jam, a small PA setup and minor (but >>>> decent) recording equipment. I am no Bill Bruford, nor anything close, but I >>>> know what I like and I wanna have some fun figurin' it out. Oh, you should >>>> also be somewhat party-able... >>>> >>>> I'm on the West side of Baltimore, outside the city line...Gwynn Oak, >>>> MD. Drop me a line. >>>> >>>> ciao! >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to >>>> the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >>> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >> >> >> -- >> The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra >> TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 21:02:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BCA23BF4C; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_zE5JfTXWmNqmr70qTQA:9 a=ewN_7U1Pj5v948XXWKYA:7 a=S7YWhewPmki3mdozoz4MFoJAW2oA:4 a=PKjY-mI1yN0A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: modifying FCB...again Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:02:55 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:02:58 +0000 (UTC) i wrote to the FCB user group looking for the person who removed the expression pedals from his FCB1010. bob, his name is, but there is no link to his email address. no response yet. i'll put it out there once more... can anyone here remove the expression pedals from an FCB1010 to make it shorter? i will send you a new FCB to work on, and pay you whatever you ask (within reason ;-) ) for your time and effort. thanks much, zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 21:14:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F4353BF4E; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:14:04 UTC X-Sender: guitar@sixstringsoul.com Message-Id: From: Six String Soul To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Subject: Re: modifying FCB...again Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:07:13 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:14:05 +0000 (UTC) unsubscribe On Jul 1, 2008, at 3:02 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: i wrote to the FCB user group looking for the person who removed the expression pedals from his FCB1010. bob, his name is, but there is no link to his email address. no response yet. i'll put it out there once more... can anyone here remove the expression pedals from an FCB1010 to make it shorter? i will send you a new FCB to work on, and pay you whatever you ask (within reason ;-) ) for your time and effort. thanks much, zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 21:21:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FBB83BF4C; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7wmtMcqhROH1GOWPSGwA:9 a=4y3etfiJA8_RCnQD9REK0N9r4qcA:4 a=7BbFSw0Byj8A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: fcb mod - never mind! Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:21:22 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:21:24 +0000 (UTC) never mind my last post...got someone to do i! sorry to clutter. z From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 22:53:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE4C63BF52; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:53:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=30k4zMxZtRhBj0imPQ95SHr2PBJnZ0eDLmMfxNn2HOI=; b=r5QIlVWdbrPfHdnkdfShrvTdoYdg/s9pby+LGHpUugZKYsMvFJ9iNpEbdTgNS0aosV oiub7k7cS1UUV7pa5Vrl+vWzhHJ1ueVCE8XiTOwt47Jd8iADAXHbAEJInSTUrpoDGSrL vaMlF5lrm4VBP0I30zS+KxazOZcNRjg0zf/v4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=LsTdJXE/iD3nE/yD1QWKiB5NzVbDzjE6xuC6c+milOC5k757EEiSJwqfZCvKlQ8lyM fMRpy62Fg6jPNa9A2j0+PCUF98V+kcMx2xdb4Bh4FaaeSocUBfu9CQ9q+ZRX5NHsHhL5 Y7wJe8NAdzFl4RX04UpeKKsJkVov0B/uP8luE= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807011553n5924262bgc05bd5ee051e3f08@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:53:21 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Flash videoclip In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5796_9325056.1214952801364" References: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: <8IXbYB.A.flH.iVraIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:53:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5796_9325056.1214952801364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning? It has such a great sound, especially on fretless guitar, i.e. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1VLlbUlfeg >> >> -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_5796_9325056.1214952801364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning?

It has such a great sound, especially on fretless guitar, i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1VLlbUlfeg


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Kind Regards Mr. Ming Yang From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 1 23:32:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9005B3BF52; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qdlCjcaavpfbS1OkS5UPMw+n+XOlSQxhx0kno/jNZKc=; b=ZT6pZ8/4Kyy+2OhQQYgdxotEHKhlJsrH1aIWn7tPN7SidiailchLGSyuU+TJaja0Hg oH4qC8S0DZ/OIOnWtexbKcBRKgAjqdja8GINTmbqujaeVYCWqdlFyDV28ASAr+r9xpkU KxY+EG3+4T/aIoIObpZAI/uCfZELat+M9o4Ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FuZibAZuWlWqciidu++zkhACn/mX7PoNTXpqH5k2zw2lMBxrEVt/82OY/dEaS273OE +HNjOjp5ihn2RCWSpeWLeHO82AKHORvQbj+SMWhxPi9maPMZHhr63X8BPGEOq+miBE2Y HStHiUmCrHS+1UTGTakL/schHsQNpusBQGFNA= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807011632y71ebd906ub12921edb75b4899@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:32:44 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: fcb mod - never mind! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_717_9645080.1214955164789" References: Resent-Message-ID: <3P66sB.A.peC.e6raIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:32:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_717_9645080.1214955164789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Zoe I wrote you a while back and may have gotten in lost in the amount of email you get but wanted to mention again that my daughter who has been studying cello in a Suzuki group at her 5th grade, came home the other day with recommended listening from her cello teacher, you were on the list. Thought you might like to know. 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Zoe I wrote you a while back and may have gotten in lost in the amount of email you get but wanted to mention again that my daughter who has been studying cello in a Suzuki group at her 5th grade, came home the other day with recommended listening from her cello teacher, you were on the list.  Thought you might like to know.
 
Jim Goodin


 
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
never mind my last post...got someone to do i!

sorry to clutter.
 z




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--0-1138091805-1214993588=:67719-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 13:39:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75CA83BF36; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Flash videoclip Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:39:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000e01c8dc49$1192dd20$34b89760$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C8DC0E.65340520" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acjap78Q9Ath7y9RTdO6eB2cs6pYkgBoRymg Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:39:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C8DC0E.65340520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great! Thanks for sharing it. When the video first started, I thought it might be a southwestern US landscape with cactus etc. It was great to see the scene unfold . I felt the music complimented it very well -Qua From: projektGmail [mailto:projekt67@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:52 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Flash videoclip Hi Loopers I've made a flash videoclip on this improvisation called "jonathan". Simon(me): Acoustic-guitar with Echoplex and E-bow Erna: Piano http://www.projekt67.com/videos/jonathan.html Simon, www.projekt67.com ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C8DC0E.65340520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Great!  Thanks for sharing it.    = When the video first started, I thought it might be a southwestern US landscape with cactus = etc.   It was great to see the scene unfold .   I felt the music = complimented it very well

 

-Qua

 

From:= = projektGmail [mailto:projekt67@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:52 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Flash videoclip

 

Hi Loopers

 

I've made a flash videoclip on this improvisation called = "jonathan".

Simon(me): Acoustic-guitar with Echoplex and E-bow

Erna: Piano

 

 

Simon,=

 

------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C8DC0E.65340520-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 13:53:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72BB03BF3D; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=36ipGHY7vc1gBbjZhsnh1JaCewYygllO4GkVJUJmLFk=; b=gh/vHRvolfacq4sr3nrerONpUIi5PNN2e7aRkgoWSkQvtgLvR2uAGZCse/RMW8fCeY pwwsbegzTqRMHbA3K8XWEuAyPd4t6gDFSMh7x0/h6ibuh/pQCJI26LMQcSXNCWj2Uy05 j4B91JhM2m39U4dGykyOSJdqmjgkG8Zr7XMl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=dAa1KpoEuh99rONtEqqpVFOjkJDdkdEPvtinQQt7UenrCoYVezyYMYk4m5hdqOsMDZ xcaugrNljSfLzZTB474eccISpkJtgbLsbAuRhKM6oai9wi9FccU1aktdCqj7fUi4M+h0 aXQ3fbSanI0udlqo1xrqT/24J0cUVW6v/LUI0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:53:17 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Flash videoclip In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8251_17131268.1215006797542" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:53:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8251_17131268.1215006797542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Very nice! On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:52 AM, projektGmail wrote: > Hi Loopers > > I've made a flash videoclip on this improvisation called "jonathan". > Simon(me): Acoustic-guitar with Echoplex and E-bow > Erna: Piano > > http://www.projekt67.com/videos/jonathan.html > > Simon, > www.projekt67.com > > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_8251_17131268.1215006797542 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Very nice!


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:52 AM, projektGmail <projekt67@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Loopers
 
I've made a flash videoclip on this improvisation called "jonathan".
Simon(me): Acoustic-guitar with Echoplex and E-bow
Erna: Piano
 
 
Simon,
 



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Tony ------=_Part_8251_17131268.1215006797542-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 14:04:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 458873BF30; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:04:54 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70807011553n5924262bgc05bd5ee051e3f08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080702140454.68810@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> <499c6bd70807011553n5924262bgc05bd5ee051e3f08@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Flash videoclip To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Tl61sHdsTt9SjGogLs6yGXDgMxzDCwcvX3FPxO3 TMsaW2sLKZzdB72TyeA1GRtY7ii+ylEnBZxA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: ZucAIKhPTlI8L8F+jGlrtdlOU2poZVmI Resent-Message-ID: <5P4dCB.A.HiE.Js4aIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:04:58 +0000 (UTC) > Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning? > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1VLlbUlfeg Well, the link was meant for the fretless e-bow sound, not the hair-style ;-) Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 14:14:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F8163BF37; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4zP2fUYrTf5ZRu3q32lCfrlSVBRiofH1yoaIjU0iAz0=; b=vLmK3Mzb13P1lQPWBM4sKRNJIYICEpZXJe2UhmK5WdU6EHAxcgcbHKvfkV0yO6Wopq 9a17GteWTTnAmhwzAx1kzJIEza4c1o89RHZ5iV0vtcICYzSZ/rHepIPhkeka2GLw7ADC zDnyvXuHZVw/TUzCKRwFFeQgPLSKpms2pUavg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=grPWAe1uxAC0NcxKVnXkH9hHZ8oFCvimSibrwGS4w3AQIWkGS1ig0odrhWHVqp1O2/ iJCRV03q2X+Kt6AhRPLtXvkoPNTUo34vyW42Fejv6K1YssWuZFiJBMwctLkSShXxn5b7 ET5my+5DOAfiFF0rjSbdxqpkKLj0mt3ns8J3E= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807020714n525549afwf3d5f7c430bc6ee4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:14:07 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Flash videoclip In-Reply-To: <20080702140454.68810@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9109_29540807.1215008047136" References: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> <499c6bd70807011553n5924262bgc05bd5ee051e3f08@mail.gmail.com> <20080702140454.68810@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:14:08 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9109_29540807.1215008047136 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Yes, and a cool sound it is....I just couldn't pass up the obvious joke. And hey, I grew up watching Doug Henning, so it's not like I was busting on him *personally*...sort of... =3Dop On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning? > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg > > Well, the link was meant for the fretless e-bow sound, not the hair-style > ;-) > > Buzap > > -- > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? > Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > > --=20 "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_9109_29540807.1215008047136 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Yes, and a cool sound it is....I just couldn't pass up the obvious joke= .  And hey, I grew up watching Doug Henning, so it's not like I wa= s busting on him *personally*...sort of...

=3Dop

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning?
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg

Well, the link was meant for the fretless e-bow sound, not the hair-style ;= -)

Buzap

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Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger




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"The Univer= se seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of = such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_9109_29540807.1215008047136-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 14:33:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A4E63BF3F; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RFK806jlAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=VVlED5B4AAAA:8 a=95ufTov6yM_JbtbjbAIA:9 a=CVVwAnHbEZedg48-Znvrk_0i0B0A:4 a=6-x43y6uxGMA:10 In-Reply-To: <20080702140454.68810@gmx.net> References: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> <499c6bd70807011553n5924262bgc05bd5ee051e3f08@mail.gmail.com> <20080702140454.68810@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Chris Gaber Subject: Re: Flash videoclip Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:32:56 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:33:00 +0000 (UTC) No, its Bob Ross! :) http://www.bobross.com/ On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning? >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg > > Well, the link was meant for the fretless e-bow sound, not the hair-=20= > style ;-) > > Buzap > > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? > Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 14:35:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 956283BF3F; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1auQFl6MkHitRR18goLiQ3GKIuZMGVyUAUu+FOv2L38=; b=SkYduPxBnRrSSrfOySSMbi5oRpSiWSJ9dGg/j4A/fkH+zdGCptfK8t977/hWFw4EFM K+kb9DyCs6FjM8ag+Dy1oo5JixJlqMFTx31FkNRmTEq+y3CZIWo4aqIhPIAIVr3256xA ETVv2U70Lir1LLLSI7IO2kYDS0pEDDkIWB6JE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=faq6eRDjoMVLLQr6Z1bqhOjE8940+jTzUOSVVt2vbg4DhguxabtNbleBlBcog43UUB pPYIANb1XCL/+do4PXILPWh88SEOfmfwBjnJyaWaJnHzkWSqH9A7YwDbOwjaLstF/iDh QXLApwDS5zHZM7hn4Fj5CWMHFHqPIQd/mMfwU= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807020735q4b51da31jde8e8abd8f92582b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:35:50 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Flash videoclip In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9226_3716519.1215009351012" References: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> <499c6bd70807011553n5924262bgc05bd5ee051e3f08@mail.gmail.com> <20080702140454.68810@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:35:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9226_3716519.1215009351012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Looks like we're a bunch of PBS'ers...lol... On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Chris Gaber wrote: > No, its Bob Ross! :) > > http://www.bobross.com/ > > > > On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning? >>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg >>>>> >>>> >> Well, the link was meant for the fretless e-bow sound, not the hair-styl= e >> ;-) >> >> Buzap >> >> -- >> Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? >> Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger >> >> > --=20 "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_9226_3716519.1215009351012 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Looks like we're a bunch of PBS'ers...lol...

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Chris Gaber <fourstrng@yahoo.com> wrote:
No, its Bob Ross!  :)

http://www.bobross.co= m/



On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote:

Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning?
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg

Well, the link was meant for the fretless e-bow sound, not the hair-style ;= -)

Buzap

--
Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt?
Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger





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"The U= niverse seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concern= s of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_9226_3716519.1215009351012-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 15:10:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94E8A3BF2A; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RFK806jlAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=VVlED5B4AAAA:8 a=95ufTov6yM_JbtbjbAIA:9 a=XMyF-4T_uKxUrLmh3FWkTNeSykYA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=MNl-bXUnvKkA:10 a=fWKFErfvZDLQ6vweSlAA:9 a=k15bkFCy0yIF8ZkJvIcA:7 a=fVVZFUF84rPjI5gSRZyQ5xcDAxwA:4 a=Sz-0p1zU2dQA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70807020735q4b51da31jde8e8abd8f92582b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> <499c6bd70807011553n5924262bgc05bd5ee051e3f08@mail.gmail.com> <20080702140454.68810@gmx.net> <499c6bd70807020735q4b51da31jde8e8abd8f92582b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-481034857 Message-Id: <780165AE-243B-43F8-8143-DF5F1773DD8A@yahoo.com> From: Chris Gaber Subject: Re: Flash videoclip Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:10:36 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:10:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-481034857 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Guilty! "Talk to the tree, make friends with it." Bob Ross Chris On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Dave wrote: > Looks like we're a bunch of PBS'ers...lol... > > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Chris Gaber =20 > wrote: > No, its Bob Ross! :) > > http://www.bobross.com/ > > > > On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg > > Well, the link was meant for the fretless e-bow sound, not the hair-=20= > style ;-) > > Buzap > > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? > Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > > > > > > --=20 > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent =20 > to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" --Apple-Mail-3-481034857 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Guilty!

"Talk to the tree, make friends with it."=A0 = Bob Ross

Chris
On Jul = 2, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Dave wrote:

Looks like = we're a bunch of PBS'ers...lol...

On = Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Chris Gaber <fourstrng@yahoo.com> = wrote:
No, its Bob Ross! =A0:)

http://www.bobross.com/



On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Buzap Buzap = wrote:

= Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg
=

Well, the link was meant = for the fretless e-bow sound, not the hair-style ;-)

Buzap
=
--
Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt?
= Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger

=




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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, = merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl = Sagan, from "Cosmos"

= --Apple-Mail-3-481034857-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 17:50:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0A713BF0E; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ZHjUi+lp1rQ/gxDL7t+otgjEe4UKeXX4cN237WUE1bsbJf+9LAMmn5JaiYvFdv08; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: Cara Quinn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <780165AE-243B-43F8-8143-DF5F1773DD8A@yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-490614838 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: Flash videoclip Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:50:16 -0700 References: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> <499c6bd70807011553n5924262bgc05bd5ee051e3f08@mail.gmail.com> <20080702140454.68810@gmx.net> <499c6bd70807020735q4b51da31jde8e8abd8f92582b@mail.gmail.com> <780165AE-243B-43F8-8143-DF5F1773DD8A@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b863c64b7cad57866423f13a3a05d4c239a348a220c2609aaaef262acae2de12921cfa075e22bb1548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.94.193.196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:50:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-490614838 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I suppose it's better than 'talk to the hand!' lol! Smiles, Cara :) On Jul 2, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Chris Gaber wrote: > Guilty! > > "Talk to the tree, make friends with it." Bob Ross > > Chris > On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Dave wrote: > >> Looks like we're a bunch of PBS'ers...lol... >> >> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Chris Gaber =20= >> wrote: >> No, its Bob Ross! :) >> >> http://www.bobross.com/ >> >> >> >> On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> >> Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning? >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg >> >> Well, the link was meant for the fretless e-bow sound, not the hair-=20= >> style ;-) >> >> Buzap >> >> --=20 >> Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? >> Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger >> >> >> >> >> >> --=20 >> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent =20= >> to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --Apple-Mail-3-490614838 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I suppose it's = better than 'talk to the hand!' =  lol!

Smiles,

Cara =  :)


On Jul 2, 2008, at 8:10 = AM, Chris Gaber wrote:

Guilty!

"Talk to the tree, make friends with = it."  Bob Ross

Chris
On Jul = 2, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Dave wrote:

Looks like = we're a bunch of PBS'ers...lol...

On = Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Chris Gaber <fourstrng@yahoo.com> = wrote:
No, its Bob Ross!  :)

http://www.bobross.com/



On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Buzap Buzap = wrote:

= Who's playing that fretless, Doug Henning?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dk1VLlbUlfeg
=

Well, the link was meant = for the fretless e-bow sound, not the hair-style ;-)

Buzap
=
--
Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt?
= Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger

=




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, = merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl = Sagan, from = "Cosmos"


---
View my = Online Portfolio at:
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 20:50:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44E443BF0C; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Fko8R6oowvm84sXkof57oBic6uQWRg3udVJ/eKN/+1/HnmmH5aDKepMrsh5Dr2RMhe5KGVOW5z1HyztJ7s1DqOp7h/nJLttZ2Y3LQOpHkm88G99VTzWOy7G5IjEj0W8Prq75m7jrjkJ2v5sAV2PV1Bv6vQ763fYvZT+CUn815yU=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:50:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: what looper is this? To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <809808.40061.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, after our loop show in konstanz in june i was approached by Martin Os manager who gave me a brocheure of his to make me aware of his performances.I just visited his website and was checking out his videos,pretty good i think but more than his music i am interested in this compact stompbox looper he is using and triggering with his hand, anybody knows what it is? it seems to do undo and gobetween A to B loops,great compact one for song arrangement! check out the first video http://www.martin-o.ch/website/sehen.php cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 22:18:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E1B33BF05; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:18:49 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: euroloopfest.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 87.66.200.214 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Hi, A short update on what I've been doing the last 2 weeks. The first steps = for the Euro loop 2009 festivals have been set: the website has been laun= ched yesterday. It's a free website for anyone who wants to promote a liv= elooping festival or gig. I really hope that we can coordinate some loopi= ng festivals next in the summer of 2009 in Germany, Italy, Belgium, the U= K,...? So, the beginning is there. Who's next? :) Sjaak http://www.euroloopfest.com/ http://www.livelooping.be/ =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 22:46:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E23AE3BF0C; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <486C053F.3020109@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:46:23 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Bay Area gig spam References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:46:23 +0000 (UTC) I'm ten shows into my tour and all's been going well so far, in spite of several cancellations and some seriously inert San Diego audiences. Tomorrow night (thursday) I'm doing a solo cassette looping set at Luggage Store Gallery in San Francisco (1007 Market St., near 6th) at 8 p.m. Following me will be Jonathan Segel (Camper van Beethoven, Sparklehorse) doing a solo set with "violin and computer" - I don't know what he'll be doing, exactly, but I know it's improv and one could make a reasonable guess that there'll be some kind of processing/sampling going on, if not looping. Non-loopingwise, I'll be doing a solo guitar recital of my original stuff on Saturday night at the Meridian Gallery (535 Powell Street/Bush) in SF, at 7:00. Then I head to the east coast for a spate of coffeehouse shows before more solo looping and Chinapainting gigs. luv to see you, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 2 22:59:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46DDE3BF18; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Tb4k+sbOA6F084WeN/IAPI4tKw2SbjtCzkVbJUVGTZI=; b=B544t3/9mWg+e7Eq2c5RDNB8byJ0G9E1SWf+UdLuo52cs/1rCV8cEzJKTUu0TARUGc 99Bc4fasv9tlUZUCSUJYwbzVfLQ/ttW9HBZqqa5jMiKa1KC8dF3xH4v7s3ZW0Orh0S81 BvnZ7cnBK/U8+gk2+wXvlbAeNsEwYfXYiqWvs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Ih9JzPaCECytbkrcavn1I3JBCSJiNXNVNvypxUtmL8wQq8zf3NVCBs2U+7Lxf5t30H S22iRledKiMDCFeqGh/x9SHJKL36oLukCsCm2wZA7aBjPHW1NpzUDLBjOLe6NKkCgp1k dqqMs6O5wPOT7z/PEhZpS+eQyO+6ke8aecx9A= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:59:04 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: euroloopfest.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5429_27671194.1215039545026" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:59:08 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5429_27671194.1215039545026 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline nice sjaak!. maybe sometime in the sunny spain... let's see what's possible. raul. 2008/7/3 Sjaak : > Hi, > A short update on what I've been doing the last 2 weeks. The first steps > for the Euro loop 2009 festivals have been set: the website has been > launched yesterday. It's a free website for anyone who wants to promote a > livelooping festival or gig. I really hope that we can coordinate some > looping festivals next in the summer of 2009 in Germany, Italy, Belgium, the > UK,...? > > So, the beginning is there. Who's next? :) > > Sjaak > http://www.euroloopfest.com/ > http://www.livelooping.be/ > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_5429_27671194.1215039545026 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline nice sjaak!.
maybe sometime in the sunny spain...

let's see what's possible.

raul.

2008/7/3 Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>:
Hi,
A short update on what I've been doing the last 2 weeks. The first steps for the Euro loop 2009 festivals have been set: the website has been launched yesterday. It's a free website for anyone who wants to promote a livelooping festival or gig. I really hope that we can coordinate some looping festivals next in the summer of 2009 in Germany, Italy, Belgium, the UK,...?

So, the beginning is there. Who's next? :)

Sjaak
http://www.euroloopfest.com/
http://www.livelooping.be/






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The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_5429_27671194.1215039545026-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 3 00:19:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 457643BF14; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=YuV1u5xtahCDwUA99fmDSrT94UrcWjYTKIbsS2yoG84=; b=tDYKkPdJlAeqKkM84to6JegXZU1kU01SD1pUNN/5ElootDPGMFPJMyr+PcxytorRtK SS8gGQU76PIIII4ygh1R1lw4W6sbfHQe/K3nXvju7CFswdUUb/HRPL08BwtrS90DXn1f DK4gMot7RJgb4I1nn45LctZ33rf+uXdjw/5ZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=XbOf+pYDPi6nbiDHwPnxUHwGdWeY4HRGqD8Gxvj2UUl3c1cPCqTf6W9ZNrbsdvVlDl LXmrgmfXydZuCLsBoHgg8jUNkgMytFN4JEX7iDFFie/73LJQn52c37tEcj2D6sa81yj2 vbfekT/H/AjBsEApabV7iE5Cqkvg6hIRYk6oY= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 02:19:41 +0200 From: Vocaloop.com Sender: vocaloop@gmail.com To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Re: what looper is this? In-Reply-To: <809808.40061.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <809808.40061.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 51f321c219889533 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:19:43 +0000 (UTC) >i am interested in this compact stompbox looper he is using and triggering with his hand, anybody knows what it is? it seems to do undo >and gobetween A to B loops,great compact one for song arrangement! Hi, The last time I saw him, he was using a homemade switch box (contact closures) going into a MIDI Solutions F8 8-input MIDI Footswitch Controller (http://www.midisolutions.com/prodf8.htm) which controls 2 Echoplexes.. Grtz, Sanne From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 3 10:38:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9867B3BEF0; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:39:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <486CAC48.9060604@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:38:15 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Check out Afterglow on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/afterglowonwmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Texture Maps" on the Timeroom Editions label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#jul Become a friend of Galactic Travels on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. ====================================================================== All times are EDT / GMT-4. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 3 14:57:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A2733BEEE; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=RGxl9JL+NU4Pczycjsv46FcTYKkpzpiWvx1DEBCDzw++uu/igo00btLFYyN3LoXM2WuqCtZktu0ndO36iOkpjaNtuMFd5I1jkM5TV6FyTs/GEYeuu5jvNom7b80TcaKn5arsRTAPDNHGAiqNkA6rgmA182w6MxnP95ndphOkGhk=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: euroloopfest.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <829525.96638.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:57:59 +0000 (UTC) eso estar=EDa de perlas Raul! de q parte de espa=F1a eres? saludos Luis > maybe sometime in the sunny spain... >=20 > let's see what's possible. >=20 > raul. >=20 =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 3 14:58:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A90603BEEE; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:58:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=mxRWpqA+T1p9gEiZ0k2vVFFxIj9F8neFXabvE0/maAFE1vwRb66hC15RIhMXOfqsSdUrvZci//TjEE8nsziwJ2+EuWefk1OuB04M43IbcrK/Gv3Y+UGVDuqCfMtegU3+0CZJYNpKcCm23Ux1rITMoW3prdYJTDxZ/DWWbsRIFbc=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:58:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: euroloopfest.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <420357.86376.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:58:59 +0000 (UTC) Great idea Sjaak! loop on Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: euroloopfest.com > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 3:18 PM > Hi, > A short update on what I've been doing the last 2 > weeks. The first steps for the Euro loop 2009 festivals > have been set: the website has been launched yesterday. > It's a free website for anyone who wants to promote a > livelooping festival or gig. I really hope that we can > coordinate some looping festivals next in the summer of > 2009 in Germany, Italy, Belgium, the UK,...? > > So, the beginning is there. Who's next? :) > > Sjaak > http://www.euroloopfest.com/ > http://www.livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 3 18:35:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D47B3BED8; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:35:52 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #586 for June 26, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <486D1C08.2050603@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:35:24 +0000 (UTC) This is last week's playlist. Be sure to tune in to tonight's show. Also, Bill will sub for Kate on Good Clean Fun this Saturday from 8 to 11 pm. Be sure to tune in and hear another side of Bill's take on music. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080626.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #586 June 26, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk three from the six disk boxed set Lost In Space on Northern Echo Recordings. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Spyra Below 20 Gasoline 91 Octane (Manikin) M. Griffin Water is Silver Fabrications (Hypnos) Syndromeda Vibrations Von Haulshoven Meets Syndromeda (none) Matt Borghi Leaving the Gates Huronic Minor (Hypnos Secret of the Open Harbor Sounds) Radio Massacre & Hout Lost In Space disk 3 (Northern International Echo) RMI Anemone LIS disk 3 (Northern Echo) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== RMI Frozen North II LIS disk 3 (Northern Echo) RMI Retina Flood LIS disk 3 (Northern Echo) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Texture Maps on the Timeroom Editions label. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy.asx http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy2.ram To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 3 18:59:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E90D3BED8; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'Sjaak'" , "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: euroloopfest.com Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:59:47 +0200 Message-ID: <006801c8dd3e$f7199960$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcjdPOiYiMW43I8xS1K2UkbimWoEAwAAWJyg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.21; AVE: 8.1.0.64; VDF: 7.0.5.41) Resent-Message-ID: <-m8mS.A.97E.mGSbIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:59:50 +0000 (UTC) > the website has been launched yesterday. It's a free website > for anyone who wants to promote a livelooping festival or gig. thanks for doing this Sjaak ... looking forward to the festival in Antwerpen in 2009 ... btw I've been working on livelooping.org for a while but it is far from finished (it will be quite unlike what is on that ugly site now) ... livelooping.org will also be a website where everyone can publish their livelooping concerts and events and everything around it ... it will be CMS driven ... Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 3 19:17:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 469073BEDB; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 678 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:17:57 UTC Message-ID: <486D230D.3070004@gordius.be> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:05:49 +0200 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: info@gordius.be User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: euroloopfest.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Hey Sjaak, thanks for organizing. I definitely will be contributing....as part of the audience in Antwerp ;-) regards, Xavier Belgium Sjaak wrote: > Hi, > A short update on what I've been doing the last 2 weeks. The first steps for the Euro loop 2009 festivals have been set: the website has been launched yesterday. It's a free website for anyone who wants to promote a livelooping festival or gig. I really hope that we can coordinate some looping festivals next in the summer of 2009 in Germany, Italy, Belgium, the UK,...? > > So, the beginning is there. Who's next? :) > > Sjaak > http://www.euroloopfest.com/ > http://www.livelooping.be/ > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 3 19:27:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D19CE3BED5; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=5NbXoLGoeI16dOGKCuZy6HEix7TBzVgSv9/ZJiEauwQ=; b=HuR4HFtp7hfu1mOditdB9cyHfMdu8RTXY+ACK4ZMO7Dm6kTjptclQ8tbXPXvYhB5sy 8Umo28ZVBcLd7Hw/slxs5n+u/Gm5e/vLKkwZHpFucwEJ018QOhDOZgZUKoG/aSx3Tj9H zgxk0wi8Ns23ZYVL0F4desRtvqFeC9k+8nruw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Q2sWe47JAAyAzlQ8slHKC2cIfKvJwNhixpAPFKujN/pPvqanwWeiPQswQQ4BZJKNqV eXd8O/UbARfva0EUZC2/q3daRTSenba4A3hLY57tEwbqic2XP58L/sIOig5nISXyuYHd Kvo6QbjxBwwj2L+KfoUHEeZpNYr1UxPqjhqZE= Message-ID: <4759e5740807031227o7c50f814w225f4b2297cbc292@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:27:39 -0700 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com Subject: in Los Angeles, videos, and a mobile rig MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7740_20661105.1215113259319" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:27:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7740_20661105.1215113259319 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear List... I've been out in LA for three weeks and am in the middle of a week's worth of looping performances with a dance company called TaskForce. also did a half hour segment on John Schneider's Global Village program this morning which I'll post a link to as soon as I get it. Dear Andre LaFosse and Daren Burns and Motoko Honda did a lovely gig together at Metropol, and I'm almost ready to go back east. Jeff Kaiser and Bob Sterling and I had a wonderful Vegan Turkey Reuben at Follow Your Heart, and some great conversation while digging into Jeff's new 8-channel looper for Bob done up in Max/MSP. God what a rich trip. I'll probably write up little blog entries of all these events... but for now, just wanted to share these things with the folks here..., cuz we do have such a small but mighty community with some badass folks who are gems with great heart and talent, and I loved spending time with 'em. now, the tech side. if anyone has any questions or comments or would enjoy more detail I'm happy to cough it on up, if it's not only interesting to ME, lol... There's a pic of part of the mobile rig I've been performing with these weeks, i'll post more pics soon, but it's a start. it's both on http://blog.toddreynolds.com and http://flickr.com/photos/muddybluetown Also on the blog and youtube is a preview video of rehearsal choreography with a snippet of the music on it... it's a nice window into this particular collaboration and the site-specific nature of it all. I think you might find it interesting... as part of it have been using Sennheiser's PAS 400 speakers which used to be KH, but Senn bought them... Wireless, Battery-operated, I have YET to drain them even with 2-three hours of constant use... I've had a great time, will share some music and stories with you as soon as I grab some time, 2.5 hours of music in two weeks and I'm still writing for the last three gigs... lol all best to all, and as Per says... greetings from Sweden... uh... Los Angeles. Todd -- In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_7740_20661105.1215113259319 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear List... 

I've been out in LA for three weeks and am in the middle of a week's worth of looping performances with a dance company called TaskForce.  

also did a half hour segment on John Schneider's Global Village program this morning which I'll post a link to as soon as I get it.  

Dear Andre LaFosse and Daren Burns and Motoko Honda did a lovely gig together at Metropol, and I'm almost ready to go back east.  

Jeff Kaiser and Bob Sterling and I had a wonderful Vegan Turkey Reuben at Follow Your Heart, and some great conversation while digging into Jeff's new 8-channel looper for Bob done up in Max/MSP. 

God what a rich trip.  I'll probably write up little blog entries of all these events... but for now, just wanted to share these things with the folks here..., cuz we do have such a small but mighty community with some badass folks who are gems with great heart and talent, and I loved spending time with 'em. 

now, the tech side.  if anyone has any questions or comments or would enjoy more detail I'm happy to cough it on up, if it's not only interesting to ME, lol... 

There's a pic of part of the mobile rig I've been performing with these weeks, i'll post more pics soon, but it's a start.  

it's both on http://blog.toddreynolds.com and http://flickr.com/photos/muddybluetown

Also on the blog and youtube is a preview video of rehearsal choreography with a snippet of the music on it... it's a nice window into this particular collaboration and the site-specific nature of it all.

I think you might find it interesting... as part of it have been using Sennheiser's PAS 400 speakers which used to be KH, but Senn bought them... 

Wireless, Battery-operated, I have YET to drain them even with 2-three hours of constant use... 

I've had a great time, will share some music and stories with you as soon as I grab some time, 2.5 hours of music in two weeks and I'm still writing for the last three gigs... lol

all best to all, and as Per says... 

greetings from Sweden... uh...  Los Angeles.

Todd

--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
------=_Part_7740_20661105.1215113259319-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 3 19:40:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4F1D3BED8; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:40:50 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080703194050.201550@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080701105852.277700@gmx.net> <499c6bd70807011553n5924262bgc05bd5ee051e3f08@mail.gmail.com> <20080702140454.68810@gmx.net> <499c6bd70807020735q4b51da31jde8e8abd8f92582b@mail.gmail.com> <780165AE-243B-43F8-8143-DF5F1773DD8A@yahoo.com> Subject: OT (was Flash videoclip) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18ys1ELiTUyJ3vsgIjr3xFPfil66U0Kl+jP7dWVT7 Foaq9by7ROPbMV+QEUFW6W3ZJGxO24bOxVxQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: ehxefPk8f2IsNf5yl21o9714dWxlc1ZC Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:40:52 +0000 (UTC) ;-)) Suggestion for next looping festival: Long hair is mandatory! ;-)) B. -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 3 20:03:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A27743BED5; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:02:58 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080703200258.201570@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <809808.40061.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: what looper is this? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX191t89WeSB1s4+6sslvx4hTNX5MvnaoNploeb6TQu UK+pbv8B0WnAMXL12wq+MmbI46dKmfTWoNDQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: QAlVfYE9bmwoc9tpkzZLF+9PUzc4clHm Resent-Message-ID: <6Ui0sB.A.2IH.0BTbIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:03:00 +0000 (UTC) > http://www.martin-o.ch/ I must say I'm very impressed with his show. One wireless mic, an elegant box - that's all. From an audience perspective, it looks actually like a very little box. Nice stage placement. It's really an alternative to all the cables, pedals and stuff... Still, he must have a sound guy very actively involved in his show. At certain points in the videos, he doesn't seem to press the button yet somehow leaves the Overdub mode. Is it in the video, some sound guy, or did I miss something? I like it - very impressive stage show :) Buzap. -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! 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userid 1004) id 1EBC53BEC9; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FvCEKxP4PADPlNBo12KBH0TkxU2dv6erF+xmMW/i78ys78XDs6DZ4aKToD6mhSgyETEmA3jEbZwvDGR67ZPTOZnnSxmIB5suEtU58bOgY2gbcDvzdNohbYOS+eD4lbG0ir9j9GJPkjrpDZtkuk+1aVeDrI8gM3eoJGOyN1Eyy9c=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: what looper is this? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080703200258.201570@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <835611.4239.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:27:22 +0000 (UTC) yes,hes got it down very impressive,he also seems to be voice school! and i never thoght he would be working with an EDP,i thought it must be a c= omputer being triggered by midi switches,i am very sure there is a tech guy= in the background making sure it doesnt flop!i wish i had a flawless show = like that with my EDPs;-) then again he seems to be using very basic featur= es of the EDP,record,overdub and more loops cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Buzap Buzap wrote: > From: Buzap Buzap > Subject: Re: what looper is this? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 1:02 PM > > http://www.martin-o.ch/ > I must say I'm very impressed with his show. > One wireless mic, an elegant box - that's all. From an > audience perspective, it looks actually like a very little > box. Nice stage placement. It's really an alternative > to all the cables, pedals and stuff... >=20 > Still, he must have a sound guy very actively involved in > his show. At certain points in the videos, he doesn't > seem to press the button yet somehow leaves the Overdub > mode. Is it in the video, some sound guy, or did I miss > something? >=20 > I like it - very impressive stage show :) >=20 > Buzap. > --=20 > Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu > sparen!=20 > Ideal f=FCr Modem und ISDN: > http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 4 08:19:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35EAB3BED0; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=F39kvg7nAAAA:8 a=VVlED5B4AAAA:8 a=-CATDpNL5tCGuBjXla8A:9 a=gu4qX7dZLUHsq9tSzVLKduYtIY0A:4 a=BFDKbZatV3MA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=hpF-ijbX5cwA:10 Message-ID: <486DDD29.90103@vtx.ch> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:19:53 +0200 From: Claude Voit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: labaloops@yahoo.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what looper is this? References: <835611.4239.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <835611.4239.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Why would he have a tech ?? when you work with a very tight, scripted show like he does, the EDP is 100 % reliable. this is no shoe gazer improv Claude L.A. Angulo a écrit : > yes,hes got it down very impressive,he also seems to be voice school! > and i never thoght he would be working with an EDP,i thought it must be a computer being triggered by midi switches,i am very sure there is a tech guy in the background making sure it doesnt flop!i wish i had a flawless show like that with my EDPs;-) then again he seems to be using very basic features of the EDP,record,overdub and more loops > cheers > Luis > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> From: Buzap Buzap >> Subject: Re: what looper is this? >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 1:02 PM >>> http://www.martin-o.ch/ >> I must say I'm very impressed with his show. >> One wireless mic, an elegant box - that's all. From an >> audience perspective, it looks actually like a very little >> box. Nice stage placement. It's really an alternative >> to all the cables, pedals and stuff... >> >> Still, he must have a sound guy very actively involved in >> his show. At certain points in the videos, he doesn't >> seem to press the button yet somehow leaves the Overdub >> mode. 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Identification (International Passport/Driver's Licence) Sincerely, Rosemary Aaran FOR : Corporate Finance & Securities From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 4 10:49:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76F293BEC1; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=4uwnDD/8wL02Spudrb+SVWXkv46nyVQgrSLhw2eSQUA=; b=wUD5KbwDoPhtC7QvfnL/NHA9A5JD3tuzIogc4TJt0+RclGk3N5HY9rURTaWP4g24T6 dn3tRsPkgk0Y51Iu0txwDXjb8YImS+kIv+JcQXPnxwDZsvJd36YXubhlgWJumPOE6mVL LuJxXbeKKEVPwH7MPzjGBq5RzFV+t0y1w1DPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=pNR8OIhW/4PvojWmGy/ZqGOyyfuC59zxcFqGG2+XvFYVal0ybBGY0JvpObXKdEGFTN edyNbN8UwaPNpnNZbxIVAcfnm1ofc339i84I9i8F66qI7y9T45cso3Ps0b82kC1hsXl+ 1CNj44GyvsYUxbK8ipkXPR7gvo5V1P3WUqPhY= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:49:29 +0200 From: Vocaloop.com Sender: vocaloop@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what looper is this? In-Reply-To: <486DDD29.90103@vtx.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <835611.4239.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <486DDD29.90103@vtx.ch> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a8eb7d55ece1f155 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:49:31 +0000 (UTC) >>> Still, he must have a sound guy very actively involved in >>> his show. At certain points in the videos, he doesn't >>> seem to press the button yet somehow leaves the Overdub >>> mode. Is it in the video, some sound guy, or did I miss >>> something? His sound guy only controls the sound itself (fx, reverb), not the looping.. Is also not needed; if you switch loops on the EDP, you leave Overdub automatically, right? Sanne From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 4 11:10:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 319123BEBA; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 42115344/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.165.54 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.165.54 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUAAO2hbUhPTqU2/2dsb2JhbAAIsHyDWA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.30,302,1212361200"; d="scan'208";a="42115344" Message-ID: <486E0542.50800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:10:58 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what looper is this? References: <835611.4239.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <486DDD29.90103@vtx.ch> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Vocaloop.com wrote: >>>> Still, he must have a sound guy very actively involved in >>>> his show. At certain points in the videos, he doesn't >>>> seem to press the button yet somehow leaves the Overdub >>>> mode. Is it in the video, some sound guy, or did I miss >>>> something? > > > His sound guy only controls the sound itself (fx, reverb), not the looping.. > Is also not needed; if you switch loops on the EDP, you leave Overdub > automatically, right? > > Sanne Yes, the edp remembers which loops are in overdub, so if you weren't in overdub when you left that loop, you won't be in overdub when you come back to it. 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//////////////////////////8BAP7/AwoAAP////8GCQIAAAAAAMAAAAAA AABGHwAAAE1pY3Jvc29mdCBPZmZpY2UgV29yZCBEb2N1bWVudAAKAAAATVNX b3JkRG9jABAAAABXb3JkLkRvY3VtZW50LjgA9DmycQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA== ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C2A9A6.2462D102-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 4 12:25:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C2303BEB9; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:25:11 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: RE: euroloopfest.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "mp" , "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <26uFCD.A.x5E.uahbIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi Michael, I didn't know you already had a livelooping.org website, I could have sav= ed some money :) I didn't realize that you were involved with the Berlin = and Konstanz festivals last May/June. Anyway, the idea behind Euroloopfest is to help coordinate some looping f= estivals in the summer of 2009. And hopefully in the same period; this wi= ll allow people from other parts of the world (US/Canada) to come over, d= o their own little tour and keep the expenses as low as possible. But who's gonna play when and where and what the formula will be of the f= estival is totally up to each individual organizer and artist :) I also d= on't have the time to spends months and months to organize something like= y2kloopfest... I leave that for Rick ;) The euroloopfest.com website can be used to share schedules and promo mat= erial if there's a need for it. And it will also be used for my own littl= e festival next year. It would be great if you can make it to Antwerp. Do you have plans with a 2nd Cologne festival? I really liked the formula= of the 1st one, it was absolutely great. Sjaak > thanks for doing this Sjaak ... looking forward to the festival in Antw= erpen > in 2009 ... > > btw I've been working on livelooping.org for a while but it is far from= > finished (it will be quite unlike what is on that ugly site now) ... > livelooping.org will also be a website where everyone can publish their= > livelooping concerts and events and everything around it ... it will be= CMS > driven ... > > Michael www.michaelpeters.de > > --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From alius37@telegraf.by Fri Jul 4 13:25:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.229]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D55D3BE84 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id e12so8328051qbe.0 for ; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.58.18 with SMTP id l18mr3323978wak.177.1215177915122; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.151.2 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c0fdab0807040625q7e1150efw6daf361fef539180@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:25:14 +0200 From: " aliu_yusuf2000@universia.cl " Reply-To: aliu_yusuf2000@universia.cl Subject: FROM YUSUF ALIU VERY URGENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2544_11176613.1215177915093" To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=_Part_2544_11176613.1215177915093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline *From The Desk Of Dr.YUSUF ALIU. Bill And Exchange Manager. Bank of Africa B.O.A. Ouagadougou Burkina-Faso. ( "REMITTANCE OF $10.5 TEN MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSEND U.S.A DOLLARS Only. CONFIDENTIAL IS THE CASE") Dear Friend On a very good day. I am (DR YUSUF ALIU) Manager Of BILL And Exchange in Bank of Africa(BOA).I got your contact from a Yahoo google Search. When i was searching for a foreign partner i assured of your capability and reliability to champion this businees opportunity when i prayed to God or Allah about you.In my department we discovered an abandoned sum of $ 10.5 million U.S.A dollars ( TEN Million Five hundred thousend U.S.A dollars Only) . In an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer MR.ADAMS SALAH who died along with his entire family on (friday december 26,2003 ) in a plane crash. Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we cannot release it unless somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines, but unfortunately we learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discovery that I and one official in my departmen= t now decided to make this businness proposal to you and release the money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and we dont want this money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed bill. The Banking law and guideline here stipulates that if such money remained unclamed after five years, the money will be transfered into the Bank treasury as unclaimed fund. The request of foreigner as next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact that the customer was a foreigner, and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner. We agree that 40% of this money will be for you as foreign partner, in respect to the provision of a foreign account, 10 % will be set aside for expenses incured during the business and 60 % would be for me, Therefore after I and my family will visit you in your country for disbursement according to the percentages indicated. Therefore to enable the immediate trnansfer of this fund to you as arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relations or next of kin of the deceased indicating your bank name, your bank account number, your private telephone and fax number for easy and effective communication and location where the money will be remitted.Upon receipt of your reply, I wil= l send to you by fax or email the text of the application I will not fail to bring to your notice that this transaction is hitch free and that you shoul= d not entertain any atom of fear as all required arrangements have been made for the transfer. Your Full Name...........................? Your Sex.................................? Your Age.................................? Your Country.............................? Marital Status......................? Your Occupation..........................? Your Personal Mobile N=B0...................? Your Personal Fax N=B0......................? You should contact me on my number +226 75245017.immediately as soon as you receive this letter.And reply me with this e mail address ** aliu_yusuf2000@universia.cl* * immediately wit= h those informations i need from you, for me to process the text of application for you to apply to the bank. Yours faithfully, Dr.Yusuf Aliu * ------=_Part_2544_11176613.1215177915093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From The Desk Of  Dr.YUSUF ALIU.
Bill And Exchange Manager.=
Bank of Africa B.O.A.
Ouagadougou Burkina-Faso.
 
 &= nbsp;          ( "REMITTA= NCE OF $10.5  TEN MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSEND U.S.A DOLLARS Only.             &nb= sp;      CONFIDENTIAL IS THE CASE")
 =      Dear Friend      &nb= sp;     
On a very good day. I am (DR YUSUF AL= IU) Manager Of BILL And Exchange in Bank of Africa(BOA).I got your contact = from a Yahoo google Search.
When i was searching for a foreign partner i assured of your capability and= reliability to champion this businees opportunity when i prayed to God or = Allah about you.In my department we discovered an abandoned sum of $ 10.5 m= illion U.S.A dollars ( TEN Million Five hundred thousend U.S.A dollars Only= ) . In an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer MR.ADAMS = ; SALAH who died along with his entire family on (friday december 26,2003&n= bsp; ) in a plane crash. Since we got information about his death,
we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money bec= ause we cannot release it unless somebody applies for it as next of kin or = relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines, but unfort= unately we learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongs= ide with him at the plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is = therefore upon this discovery that I and one official in my department now = decided to make this businness proposal to you and release the
money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and = subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and we dont want this= money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed bill.
The Banking law a= nd guideline here stipulates that if such money remained unclamed after fiv= e years, the money will be transfered into the Bank treasury as unclaimed f= und. The request of foreigner as next of kin in this business is occasioned= by the fact that the customer was a foreigner, and a Burkinabe cannot stan= d as next of kin to a foreigner. We agree that 40% of this money will be fo= r you as foreign partner, in respect to the provision of a foreign account,= 10 % will be set aside for expenses incured
during the business and 60 % would be for me, Therefore after I and my fami= ly will visit you in your country for disbursement according to the percent= ages indicated.
Therefore to enable the immediate trnansfer of this fund= to you as
arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relations or next of kin of t= he deceased indicating your bank name, your bank account number, your priva= te telephone and fax number for easy and effective communication and locati= on where the money will be remitted.Upon receipt of your reply, I will send= to you by fax or email the text of the application I will not fail to brin= g to your notice that this transaction is hitch free and that you should no= t entertain any atom of fear as all required arrangements have
been made for the transfer.
Your Full Name...........................?Your Sex.................................?
Your Age...................= ..............?
Your Country.............................?
Marital St= atus......................?
Your Occupation..........................?
Your Personal Mobile N=B0....= ...............?
Your Personal Fax N=B0......................?
You sh= ould contact me on my number +226 75245017.immediately as soon
as you re= ceive this letter.And reply me with this e mail address aliu_yusuf2000@universia.cl immediately with those informations i need from you, for= me to process the text of application for you to apply to the bank.
Yours faithfully,
Dr.Yusuf Aliu
 ------=_Part_2544_11176613.1215177915093-- From shell_award01@gazeta.pl Fri Jul 4 14:08:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from qb-out-1314.google.com (qb-out-1314.google.com [72.14.204.173]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED343BEA0 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qb-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id c5so3996818qbc.2 for ; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.162.1 with SMTP id p1mr160890mko.45.1215180487850; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.155.17 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <886d49c70807040708s18b0b2b1xc128d29b6cbb672@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:08:07 -0700 From: "shell_award01 Gazeta.pl" Subject: CONGRATULATION! YOUR E-MAIL HAS WON A SHELL AWARD PROMO!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7477_19718144.1215180487847" To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=_Part_7477_19718144.1215180487847 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline [image: Shell logo]Shell Foundation Nigeria ======================================================================================= Shell Centre, Kaduna SE1 7NA - Nigeria +234 8056025825 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * ** *To celebrate the 7th anniversary program, the Shell Foundation Nigeria, in conjunction with some multi national Companies and other relevant bodies is giving out a yearly donation of US$400,000.00 (FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) to four lucky recipients.* *You were selected among the lucky recipients to receive the award sum of US$400,000.00 (FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) as charity donations/aid from the Shell Foundation Nigeria in accordance with the enabling act of Parliament. PAYMENT OF PRIZE AND CLAIM *** *Note: Winners shall be paid in accordance with his*/*her settlement center.And all winnings MUST be claimed, not later than 28 days after notification. Failure to do so will result to outright cancellation.* *This number fall within the Nigerian location file,For further information and claim, Please contact your claims agent with the below email address and quote these numbers. Winning Numbers: 1 2 26 30 40 21, Ref: 575061725, Batch: 8056490902/188 and cash credit file ref: ILP/HW 46704/08. *1. Full name: * *2. Country: 3. Contact Address: 4. Telephone Number: * *5. fax Number: * *5. Marital Status: 6. Occupation: * *7. My date of birth: 7. Sex:* Contact person: Mr Wilson Moore (RCA) Agent: shellaward2008@yahoo.com Email: shellclaims2@walla.com Phone +234 8056025825+234 8056025825 * * He shall immediately commence the process that will facilitate the release of your fund to you. Congratulation!!! once again*. *Yours in service, Dr.(Mrs) Lynda Johnson (Publicity secretary) ------=_Part_7477_19718144.1215180487847 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
3D"ShellShell Foundation N= igeria
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Shell = Centre, Kaduna SE1 7NA - Nigeria  +234 8056025825
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= To celebrate the 7th anniversary program, the Shell Founda= tion Nigeria, in conjunction with some multi national Companies and other relevant bodies is giving out a yearly donation of US$400,000.00 (FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) to four lucky recipients.

You were selected among the lucky recipients to receive the award sum of US$400,000.00 (FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) as= charity donations/aid from the Shell Foundation Nigeria in accordance with the enabling act of = Parliament.

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PAYMENT = OF PRIZE AND CLAIM

Note: Winners shall be paid in ac= cordance with his/he= r settlement center. And all winnings MUST be claimed, not later than 28 days after notification. Failure to do so will result to outright cancellation.<= /span>

This number fall within the Nigerian location file,For further information and claim, Please contact your claims agent with the below email address and quote these numbers. Winning Numbers: 1 2 26 30 40 21, Ref: 5750= 61725, Batch: 8056490902<= /span>/188 and cash credit file ref: ILP/HW 46704/08.
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4. Telephone Number:    =
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7. Sex:
Contact person: Mr Wilson M= oore (RCA)
Agent:   shellaward2008@yahoo.com
Email: &nbs= p;  shellclaims2@walla.com     &n= bsp;        = ;   
Phone    +234 8056025825+234 8056025825  =20             &n= bsp;  

He shall immediately commen= ce the process that will facilitate the release of your fund to you.

Congratulation!!! once again.

Yours in service,
Dr.(Mrs) Lynda Johnson(Publicity= secretary)
=20
------=_Part_7477_19718144.1215180487847-- From shell_award04@gazeta.pl Fri Jul 4 14:55:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from qb-out-1314.google.com (qb-out-1314.google.com [72.14.204.169]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8B93BE70 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qb-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id c5so4065154qbc.2 for ; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.178.13 with SMTP id a13mr1396128waf.158.1215183290347; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.49.20 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <471b620a0807040754m31bb0d97h8c3b993380f201df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:54:50 -0700 From: "shell_award04 Gazeta.pl" Subject: CONGRATULATION! YOUR E-MAIL HAS WON A SHELL AWARD PROMO!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2840_22175178.1215183290307" To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=_Part_2840_22175178.1215183290307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline [image: Shell logo]Shell Foundation Nigeria ======================================================================================= Shell Centre, Kaduna SE1 7NA - Nigeria +234 8056025825 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * ** *To celebrate the 7th anniversary program, the Shell Foundation Nigeria, in conjunction with some multi national Companies and other relevant bodies is giving out a yearly donation of US$400,000.00 (FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) to four lucky recipients.* *You were selected among the lucky recipients to receive the award sum of US$400,000.00 (FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) as charity donations/aid from the Shell Foundation Nigeria in accordance with the enabling act of Parliament. PAYMENT OF PRIZE AND CLAIM *** *Note: Winners shall be paid in accordance with his*/*her settlement center.And all winnings MUST be claimed, not later than 28 days after notification. Failure to do so will result to outright cancellation.* *This number fall within the Nigerian location file,For further information and claim, Please contact your claims agent with the below email address and quote these numbers. Winning Numbers: 1 2 26 30 40 21, Ref: 575061725, Batch: 8056490902/188 and cash credit file ref: ILP/HW 46704/08. *1. Full name: * *2. Country: 3. Contact Address: 4. Telephone Number: * *5. fax Number: * *5. Marital Status: 6. Occupation: * *7. My date of birth: 7. Sex:* Contact person: Mr Wilson Moore (RCA) Agent: shellaward2008@yahoo.com Email: shellclaims2@walla.com Phone +234 8056025825+234 8056025825 * * He shall immediately commence the process that will facilitate the release of your fund to you. Congratulation!!! once again*. *Yours in service, Dr.(Mrs) Lynda Johnson (Publicity secretary) ------=_Part_2840_22175178.1215183290307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
3D"ShellShell Foundation Nigeria
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Shell = Centre, Kaduna SE1 7NA - Nigeria  +234 8056025825
-----------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -----------------------------------------------------

<= span>

= To celebrate the 7th anniversary program, the Shell Founda= tion Nigeria, in conjunction with some multi national Companies and other relevant bodies is giving out a yearly donation of US$400,000.00 (FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) to four lucky recipients.

You were selected among the lucky recipients to receive the award sum of US$400,000.00 (FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) as= charity donations/aid from the Shell Foundation Nigeria in accordance with the enabling act of = Parliament.

3D""
PAYMENT = OF PRIZE AND CLAIM

Note: Winners shall be paid in ac= cordance with his/he= r settlement center. And all winnings MUST be claimed, not later than 28 days after notification. Failure to do so will result to outright cancellation.<= /span>

This number fall within the Nigerian location file,For further information and claim, Please contact your claims agent with the below email address and quote these numbers. Winning Numbers: 1 2 26 30 40 21, Ref: 5750= 61725, Batch: 8056490902<= /span>/188 and cash credit file ref: ILP/HW 46704/08.
1.= Full name:          &nb= sp;    
2. Country: &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;   
3. Contact Addre= ss:      
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6. Occupation:      &nbs= p;      
7.   My date of birth:  &n= bsp;        
7. Sex:
Contact person: Mr Wilson M= oore (RCA)
Agent:   shellaward2008@yahoo.com
Email: &nbs= p;  shellclaims2@walla.com     &n= bsp;        = ;   
Phone    +234 8056025825+234 8056025825  =20             &n= bsp;  

He shall immediately commen= ce the process that will facilitate the release of your fund to you.

Congratulation!!! once again.

Yours in service,
Dr.(Mrs) Lynda Johnson(Publicity= secretary)
=20
------=_Part_2840_22175178.1215183290307-- From fraudunit@gmail.com Fri Jul 4 17:38:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B6C3BE92; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (62.56.146.98.rmts.satcom-systems.net [62.56.146.98] (may be forged)) (authenticated sender bamb1@optusnet.com.au) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m64HSv7X020438; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 03:29:41 +1000 Message-Id: <200807041729.m64HSv7X020438@mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: From: "ANTI FRAUD UNIT" Subject: LETTER OF COMPENSATION/SETTLEMENT. Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:35:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 To: undisclosed-recipients:;
ICPC UNITED KINGDOM (Anti-Fraud Unit) 
......we fight against fraud, funds delay and impersonation.         
           
Head Office: Plot 101 CORNHILL LONDON EC7V 9NP, UNITED KINGDOM. ATTN: Dear Beneficiary,  Dear Sir/Madam,
            LETTER OF COMPENSATION/SETTLEMENT.
We hereby wish you and your family the best of prosperity.
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I know that this letter will hit you by surprise, but firstly I will like to introduce myself; I am (George Smith) the Legal chairman of  "ICPC", (London's Anti-Fraud Unit).
On the 1st of October 2005, the former Prime Minister of The United Kingdom (Mr. Tony Blair) introduced a Commission named the "ICPC", (London's Anti-Fraud Unit)  which is duly registered under the Europian Union (E.U.). This particular Commission was initiated  to  detect fraud/funds delay/impersonation of Government Officials. Secondly, we are mandated by the British Government to Settle foreign debts/fraud  victims/Un-paid beneficiaries to satisfactory in other to maintain peace  in the world at large and also to c4th July, 2008) because your Case File (A) is the very first File on our  Settlement Files Cabinet. From our Intelligent investigations and Probing processes we  discovered that you are a victim of fraud/funds delay.
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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 4 18:17:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2E083BE9E; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <029d01c8de02$3a4f8550$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:17:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_029A_01C8DDCF.EF2865B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:17:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_029A_01C8DDCF.EF2865B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm starting to post a fair amount of photos and MP3s now of the 3rd = Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're interested, all are = here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm I will continue too add more in the next week or two. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_029A_01C8DDCF.EF2865B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm starting to post a fair amount of = photos and=20 MP3s now of the 3rd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're=20 interested, all are here:
 
http:/= /www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm
 
I will continue too add more in the = next week or=20 two.
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_029A_01C8DDCF.EF2865B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 4 19:00:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F7CD3BEA0; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3327 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:00:08 UTC Message-ID: <181429891.1215194679486.JavaMail.root@ccprodapp30> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:04:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Travis Lund Reply-To: Travis Lund To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: The culture of what we do. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_367_181427550.1215194679485" X-Mailer: CC Mailer IV 3.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:00:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_367_181427550.1215194679485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey everyone, I know we've had several threads that sort of revolved around this topic in= the past, but in an effort to promote live looping, I'm going to pitch an = article on the artform and culture of our craft to the Berklee newspaper, a= nd it would be greatly appreciated if you could post your thoughts on what = constitutes "live looping" and separates it from other music to this thread= . =A0(I'd like to address stuff like whether integrating pre-recorded sampl= es is fair game and "exactly how much looping do you have to do to be consi= dered a 'live looper'?", that sort of thing.) =A0Feel free to get as tangen= tial as you like in addition to the "philosophy" question. =A0 (i.e. what s= et-up/hardware/software you use, how you go about composing or improvising = within a looping context, influences/luminaries in the field, important fes= tivals, etc.) =A0Please include your names, where you're from, and a link t= o your website if you have one, so I can throw some name checks around thro= ughout the article (LD will of course be getting a mention, does anyone kno= w of any other looping-dedicated sites or forums out there?) =A0I know this= sounds extremely broad and has the potential to get cluttered and messy as= a thread, but I'm trying to get a fairly panoramic scope, so please go nut= s and wax ecstatic, expound at length, and generally rhapsodize to your col= lective hearts' content. =A0:) =A0Thanks so much, and happy looping. =A0(Al= so, happy 4th of July to all those in the US, may your barbecues be epic, y= our beers be cold, and the fireworks be outstanding.) -Travis ------=_Part_367_181427550.1215194679485 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey everyone,
I know we've had several threads that s= ort of revolved around this topic in the past, but in an effort to promote = live looping, I'm going to pitch an article on the artform and culture of o= ur craft to the Berklee newspaper, and it would be greatly appreciated if y= ou could post your thoughts on what constitutes "live looping" and separate= s it from other music to this thread. =A0(I'd like to address stuff like wh= ether integrating pre-recorded samples is fair game and "exactly how much l= ooping do you have to do to be considered a 'live looper'?", that sort of t= hing.) =A0Feel free to get as tangential as you like in addition to the "ph= ilosophy" question. =A0 (i.e. what set-up/hardware/software you use, how yo= u go about composing or improvising within a looping context, influences/lu= minaries in the field, important festivals, etc.) =A0Please include your na= mes, where you're from, and a link to your website if you have one, so I ca= n throw some name checks around throughout the article (LD will of course b= e getting a mention, does anyone know of any other looping-dedicated sites = or forums out there?) =A0I know this sounds extremely broad and has the pot= ential to get cluttered and messy as a thread, but I'm trying to get a fair= ly panoramic scope, so please go nuts and wax ecstatic, expound at length, = and generally rhapsodize to your collective hearts' content. =A0:) =A0Thank= s so much, and happy looping. =A0(Also, happy 4th of July to all those in t= he US, may your barbecues be epic, your beers be cold, and the fireworks be= outstanding.)

= -Travis
------=_Part_367_181427550.1215194679485-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 4 23:37:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 717953BE93; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMeeRycZ7 Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: OT (was Flash videoclip) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 01:36:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcjdRLQmURIShP4yR86K1mCQqiPZeAA6h1JQ In-Reply-To: <20080703194050.201550@gmx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:37:01 +0000 (UTC) second that > Suggestion for next looping festival: > Long hair is mandatory! ;-)) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 4 23:52:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9632D3BEA0; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMeeRycZ7 Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 01:52:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8DE41.BEB829C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcjeAjy3KEvlOOBuTNu37VIpv2Jf2QALla+Q In-Reply-To: <029d01c8de02$3a4f8550$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:52:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8DE41.BEB829C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Krispen, thanks for doing that! And great work by Thee Art Of/Corkscrew here. And if anybody is wondering (Krispen included): yes, there will be MP3s by me, after I get a chance to review all of them...it seems you didn't ask for my permission to publish the Saturday recordings, you cruel festival manager ;) Rainer _____ Von: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juli 2008 20:18 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s I'm starting to post a fair amount of photos and MP3s now of the 3rd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're interested, all are here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images &sound.htm I will continue too add more in the next week or two. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8DE41.BEB829C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Krispen,
 
thanks for doing that! And great work by Thee = Art=20 Of/Corkscrew here. And if anybody is wondering (Krispen included): yes, = there=20 will be MP3s by me, after I get a chance to review all of them...it = seems you=20 didn't ask for my permission to publish the Saturday recordings, you = cruel=20 festival manager ;)
 
       &nbs= p;   =20 Rainer

Von: Krispen Hartung=20 [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juli = 2008=20 20:18
An: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff:=20 BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s

I'm starting to post a fair amount of = photos and=20 MP3s now of the 3rd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If = you're=20 interested, all are here:
 
http:/= /www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm
 
I will continue too add more in the = next week or=20 two.
 
Kris
 
 
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--0-832904640-1215225508=:67988-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 06:57:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0749C3BE94; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 06:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zQiYORMAAAAA:8 a=6qxjnZ3Td-Vq_tEV3JMA:9 a=JHdgGODRvu8Srj8X7-PnSKvQqcQA:4 a=m-cwX0H6ZdQA:10 Message-ID: <486F1B3F.3070906@vtx.ch> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:57:03 +0200 From: Claude Voit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s References: <029d01c8de02$3a4f8550$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <029d01c8de02$3a4f8550$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 06:57:09 +0000 (UTC) cool but the pictures soo heavy !!!!¨¨ 4 megs Claude Krispen Hartung a écrit : > I'm starting to post a fair amount of photos and MP3s now of the 3rd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're interested, all are here: > > http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm > > I will continue too add more in the next week or two. > > Kris > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 07:28:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BC183BEA0; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 07:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 130954 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:28:25 UTC Message-ID: <486F2296.1050604@gordius.be> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:28:22 +0200 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: info@gordius.be User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: OT (was Flash videoclip) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 07:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > second that > > >> Suggestion for next looping festival: >> Long hair is mandatory! ;-)) >> Damn... I'd love to see Luca Formentini perform on one of those festivals, but with your new rule he will have quite some preparation to do.... Go for it Luca ! ;-) http://www.myspace.com/lucaformentini From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 09:57:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81B643BE93; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=rJxFpVGzXDobqxnb7p/zay4go0zYCDOJQtkVruMZioTLe3N1qVCau2NtyQpTqPZJrbqoO6Aqpw2y2nNGxhKJEfbjrA3e2Dd6oA2b6Ly0ain/myrfhxkRennxnjrw2FnKWcc74CN4CgzVhk7qjXZwnXRCNkYkOjNiWQU67OmRGRM=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 02:57:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: what looper is this? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <486DDD29.90103@vtx.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <34353.59916.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:57:13 +0000 (UTC) why would the Edge have a tech guy? maybe because lots of people pay to see= him! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 7/4/08, Claude Voit wrote: > From: Claude Voit > Subject: Re: what looper is this? > To: labaloops@yahoo.com > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 1:19 AM > Why would he have a tech ?? > when you work with a very tight, scripted show like he > does, the EDP=20 > is 100 % reliable. >=20 >=20 > this is no shoe gazer improv >=20 > Claude >=20 > L.A. Angulo a =E9crit : > > yes,hes got it down very impressive,he also seems to > be voice school! > > and i never thoght he would be working with an EDP,i > thought it must be a computer being triggered by midi > switches,i am very sure there is a tech guy in the > background making sure it doesnt flop!i wish i had a > flawless show like that with my EDPs;-) then again he seems > to be using very basic features of the EDP,record,overdub > and more loops > > cheers > > Luis > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >=20 > >=20 > > --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Buzap Buzap > wrote: > >=20 > >> From: Buzap Buzap > >> Subject: Re: what looper is this? > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 1:02 PM > >>> http://www.martin-o.ch/ > >> I must say I'm very impressed with his show. > >> One wireless mic, an elegant box - that's all. > From an > >> audience perspective, it looks actually like a > very little > >> box. Nice stage placement. It's really an > alternative > >> to all the cables, pedals and stuff... > >> > >> Still, he must have a sound guy very actively > involved in > >> his show. At certain points in the videos, he > doesn't > >> seem to press the button yet somehow leaves the > Overdub > >> mode. Is it in the video, some sound guy, or did I > miss > >> something? > >> > >> I like it - very impressive stage show :) > >> > >> Buzap. > >> --=20 > >> Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer > Onlinekosten zu > >> sparen!=20 > >> Ideal f=FCr Modem und ISDN: > >> http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer > >=20 > >=20 > > =20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=0A=0A=0A From soludo01111111124@earthlink.net Sat Jul 5 12:01:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1262 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:01:45 UTC Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C860E3BE8D; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:01:42 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=itOVzm2FKr8fwm4lPXpOI+NWA2s9jZrGDyuvgj0lKe08UN7aN6CzNbzmVOnsn0Hv; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.41] (helo=elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KF66Y-00082Y-GT; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:39:02 -0400 Received: from 202.106.16.36 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 07:39:02 -0400 Message-ID: <25544362.1215257942373.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:39:02 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: IMMEDIATE CONTRACT PAYMENT NOTIFICATION Reply-To: IMMEDIATE CONTRACT PAYMENT NOTIFICATION Subject: IMMEDIATE CONTRACT PAYMENT NOTIFICATION Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: ae5f0d2d964ab6bd84d1fd658f9f658ef4a2db096a8e397d7e972de0d01da940d7ec1ba5319c00f2196ac65f3dd58d39350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.41 To: undisclosed-recipients:;  =20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 = 19:17=20 PM
Subject: BEMF-3 Photos and = MP3s

I'm starting to post a fair amount of = photos and=20 MP3s now of the 3rd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If = you're=20 interested, all are here:
 
http:/= /www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm
 
I will continue too add more in the = next week or=20 two.
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8DEA4.09CE7FB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 15:29:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58B973BE90; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <032101c8deb3$e4b4b720$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:29:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_031E_01C8DE81.99973470" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:29:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_031E_01C8DE81.99973470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, where are your MP3s, Rainer? Let's hear that trombone from mars. = :) =20 Oh, yeah....[snicker]...I guess I sort of took your response that the = recording of you, me, and Motoko, rocked the house, as permission to = publish. I didn't think you would object. That's what happens when the = cruel festival manager decides to step up on stage to your set = un-announced and un-invited! It just seemed to appropriate, I could not = resist. Rick should not have started that at Y2K...now he's started a = bad habbit for festival managers. :) My nylon string was sitting right = there next to the main mixer board, longing to be played and meet Ms. = Grand Piano and Mr. Trombone. I hope everyone enjoys the recording. =20 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: AW: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s Krispen, thanks for doing that! And great work by Thee Art Of/Corkscrew here. = And if anybody is wondering (Krispen included): yes, there will be MP3s = by me, after I get a chance to review all of them...it seems you didn't = ask for my permission to publish the Saturday recordings, you cruel = festival manager ;) Rainer -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Von: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juli 2008 20:18 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s I'm starting to post a fair amount of photos and MP3s now of the 3rd = Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're interested, all are = here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm I will continue too add more in the next week or two. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_031E_01C8DE81.99973470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, where are your MP3s, Rainer?  = Let's hear=20 that trombone from mars.  :) 
 
Oh, yeah....[snicker]...I guess I sort = of took your=20 response that the recording of you, me, and Motoko, rocked the house, as = permission to publish.  I didn't think you would object. That's = what=20 happens when the cruel festival manager decides to step up on stage to = your set=20 un-announced and un-invited!  It just seemed to appropriate, I = could not=20 resist. Rick should not have started that at Y2K...now he's started a = bad habbit=20 for festival managers. :)  My nylon string was sitting right there = next to=20 the main mixer board, longing to be played and meet Ms. Grand Piano and = Mr.=20 Trombone.  I hope everyone enjoys the = recording.  
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rainer = Thelonius=20 Balthasar Straschill
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 = 5:52 PM
Subject: AW: BEMF-3 Photos and = MP3s

Krispen,
 
thanks for doing that! And great work by Thee = Art=20 Of/Corkscrew here. And if anybody is wondering (Krispen included): = yes, there=20 will be MP3s by me, after I get a chance to review all of them...it = seems you=20 didn't ask for my permission to publish the Saturday recordings, you = cruel=20 festival manager ;)
 
       &nbs= p;   =20 Rainer

Von: Krispen Hartung=20 [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juli = 2008=20 20:18
An: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff:=20 BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s

I'm starting to post a fair amount = of photos=20 and MP3s now of the 3rd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If = you're=20 interested, all are here:
 
http:/= /www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm
 
I will continue too add more in the = next week=20 or two.
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_031E_01C8DE81.99973470-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 15:30:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D50B73BE90; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <032a01c8deb4$18353980$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <029d01c8de02$3a4f8550$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <486F1B3F.3070906@vtx.ch> Subject: Re: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:30:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I know. That was the original resolution, and I basically back linked into the box.net server, rather than re-saving the files. It was just a matter of time. I will try to convert the web versions to smaller versions this week. What are you using, Claude, a 28K modem? :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > cool but > > the pictures soo heavy !!!!¨¨ 4 megs > > Claude > > Krispen Hartung a écrit : >> I'm starting to post a fair amount of photos and MP3s now of the 3rd >> Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're interested, all are >> here: >> >> http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm >> >> I will continue too add more in the next week or two. >> >> Kris >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 15:34:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E01D3BE8C; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <034001c8deb4$8ae67de0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <029d01c8de02$3a4f8550$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <975C0CF6D1284C909AF0D6B614721AEE@eluk1> Subject: Re: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:33:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_033D_01C8DE82.3FCB4520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:34:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_033D_01C8DE82.3FCB4520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, just Boise. Rainer is handling all the Kybermusik recordings.=20 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 Of those who were in Boise I suppose? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 19:17 PM Subject: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s I'm starting to post a fair amount of photos and MP3s now of the 3rd = Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're interested, all are = here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm I will continue too add more in the next week or two. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_033D_01C8DE82.3FCB4520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, just Boise. Rainer is handling all = the=20 Kybermusik recordings. 
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----

 
Of those who were in Boise I=20 suppose?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 = 19:17=20 PM
Subject: BEMF-3 Photos and = MP3s

I'm starting to post a fair amount = of photos=20 and MP3s now of the 3rd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If = you're=20 interested, all are here:
 
http:/= /www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm
 
I will continue too add more in the = next week=20 or two.
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_033D_01C8DE82.3FCB4520-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 15:54:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB6CB3BE8A; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <035601c8deb7$77baee60$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:54:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:54:57 +0000 (UTC) All fixed, Claude. Let me know if they come through. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Yeah, I know. That was the original resolution, and I basically back > linked into the box.net server, rather than re-saving the files. It was > just a matter of time. I will try to convert the web versions to smaller > versions this week. > > What are you using, Claude, a 28K modem? :) > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> cool but >> >> the pictures soo heavy !!!!¨¨ 4 megs >> >> Claude >> >> Krispen Hartung a écrit : >>> I'm starting to post a fair amount of photos and MP3s now of the 3rd >>> Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're interested, all are >>> here: >>> >>> http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm >>> >>> I will continue too add more in the next week or two. >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> >> > From akipek@isnet.net.tr Sat Jul 5 16:49:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1262 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:49:50 UTC Received: from smtp.isnet.net.tr (smtp-a.isnet.net.tr [213.143.239.31]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D813BE84; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.isnet.net.tr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.isnet.net.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73A24F9978; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:28:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from isnet.net.tr (pop1.isnet.net.tr [213.143.239.201]) by smtp.isnet.net.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48E54F8043; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:28:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [213.143.239.198] (Forwarded-For: 192.168.1.112, [80.255.62.234]) by pop.isnet.net.tr (mshttpd); Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:31:50 +0100 From: Reply-To: mrslindahill700@yahoo.com.hk Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:31:50 +0100 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: ATM CARD822 X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: undisclosed-recipients:; X-AV-Checked: Is Net AV Service $6.8 Million Dollars has been credited in your favor contact my Secretary Mrs Linda Hill with the follow mrslindahill700@yahoo.com.hk Full.................. 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Regards David Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 16:54:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 127083BE89; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMeGRzak= Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s - and live recordings in general Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:54:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8DED0.86DE5260" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Acjes+c7aU1FMex1TnmJTYaX2MaoggACfA2w In-Reply-To: <032101c8deb3$e4b4b720$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: <4GaCk.A.vRC.5c6bIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:54:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8DED0.86DE5260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Krispen, that trombone didn't come from mars...rather Valhalla? ;) I remember I said that "we" rocked the house, not the recording - meaning that right at that event (being in a Minkovskyan way something happening at a certain time and at certain geometric coordinates). This needn't be true for the recordings... There are a lot of different opinions about the validity of live recordings, and positions here include: * live recordings are not allowed (a performance is only valid at that time in place) * live recordings are only allowed as a completely unchanged recording of a (stereo) microphone in the room * live recordings are allowed as above but also with some audio treatment * multitrack mixing is ok * editing is ok I, personally, believe that the aesthetics of recordings are different than those of a live performance. For that reason, I tend to edit live recordings, not necessarily to remove mistakes (whatever that may be in freely improvised material - see that shot on my myspace page of you and Erin arguing), but to change the arrangement to make it work in that other context. Summarizing: I'll do edits of the Saturday session after I got the WAV files. Until then, you can either remove the MP3s from the site or leave them there to replace them afterwards, or keep both the raw recordings and the edits there...your call. Rainer Yes, where are your MP3s, Rainer? Let's hear that trombone from mars. :) Oh, yeah....[snicker]...I guess I sort of took your response that the recording of you, me, and Motoko, rocked the house, as permission to publish. I didn't think you would object. That's what ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8DED0.86DE5260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Krispen,
 
that trombone didn't come from mars...rather = Valhalla?=20 ;)
 
I remember I said that "we" rocked the house, = not the=20 recording - meaning that right at that event (being in a Minkovskyan way = something happening at a certain time and at certain geometric = coordinates).=20 This needn't be true for the recordings...
 
There are a lot of different opinions about = the=20 validity of live recordings, and positions here = include:
    * live recordings are not = allowed (a=20 performance is only valid at that time in place)
    * live recordings are only = allowed=20 as a completely unchanged recording of a (stereo) microphone in the=20 room
    * live recordings are = allowed as=20 above but also with some audio treatment
    * multitrack mixing is=20 ok
    * editing is = ok
 
I, personally, believe that the aesthetics of = recordings are different than those of a live performance. For that = reason, I=20 tend to edit live recordings, not necessarily to remove mistakes = (whatever that=20 may be in freely improvised material - see that shot on my myspace page = of you=20 and Erin arguing), but to change the arrangement to make it work in that = other=20 context.
 
Summarizing:
I'll do edits of the Saturday session after I = got the=20 WAV files. Until then, you can either remove the MP3s from the site or = leave=20 them there to replace them afterwards, or keep both the raw recordings = and the=20 edits there...your call.
 
       =20 Rainer
 

Yes, where are your MP3s, Rainer?  Let's hear that = trombone from=20 mars.  :) 
 
Oh, yeah....[snicker]...I guess I = sort of took=20 your response that the recording of you, me, and Motoko, rocked the = house, as=20 permission to publish.  I didn't think you would object. That's = what=20
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8DED0.86DE5260-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 17:58:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 836163BE95; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6D83220D9ABC4BB7B9EDE8639BC2C428@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <029d01c8de02$3a4f8550$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <975C0CF6D1284C909AF0D6B614721AEE@eluk1> <034001c8deb4$8ae67de0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:58:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8DED1.2961DE30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:58:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8DED1.2961DE30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thx. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 16:33 PM Subject: Re: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s Yes, just Boise. Rainer is handling all the Kybermusik recordings.=20 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 Of those who were in Boise I suppose? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 19:17 PM Subject: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s I'm starting to post a fair amount of photos and MP3s now of the = 3rd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're interested, all = are here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm I will continue too add more in the next week or two. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8DED1.2961DE30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thx.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 = 16:33=20 PM
Subject: Re: BEMF-3 Photos and = MP3s

Yes, just Boise. Rainer is handling = all the=20 Kybermusik recordings. 
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----

 
Of those who were in Boise I=20 suppose?
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 = 19:17=20 PM
Subject: BEMF-3 Photos and = MP3s

I'm starting to post a fair = amount of photos=20 and MP3s now of the 3rd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. = If=20 you're interested, all are here:
 
http:/= /www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm
 
I will continue too add more in = the next week=20 or two.
 
Kris
 
=
 
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C8DED1.2961DE30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 18:53:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E271F3BE97; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3601 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:53:33 UTC X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zQiYORMAAAAA:8 a=Tdkq2_p_UGZrnmpBKA4A:9 a=ssf8nZasVOmMV090C6m34qUplbIA:4 a=Nl17zUePOAwA:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Message-ID: <486FB517.9010803@vtx.ch> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:53:27 +0200 From: Claude Voit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s References: <035601c8deb7$77baee60$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <035601c8deb7$77baee60$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_9DT.A.mL.tM8bIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Thanks the picture are beautiful, great mood I could have waited for the picture to load but there were 13 picture each around 4megs on the first page.... and yes I felt "like" I was back to a 28K modem :=) Have a nice day Claude Krispen Hartung a écrit : > All fixed, Claude. Let me know if they come through. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> Yeah, I know. That was the original resolution, and I basically back >> linked into the box.net server, rather than re-saving the files. It >> was just a matter of time. I will try to convert the web versions to >> smaller versions this week. >> >> What are you using, Claude, a 28K modem? :) >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> cool but >>> >>> the pictures soo heavy !!!!¨¨ 4 megs >>> >>> Claude >>> >>> Krispen Hartung a écrit : >>>> I'm starting to post a fair amount of photos and MP3s now of the 3rd >>>> Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're interested, all >>>> are here: >>>> >>>> http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm >>>> >>>> I will continue too add more in the next week or two. >>>> >>>> Kris >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 21:33:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 002DB3BE98; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <20080705165418.CEE2B3BE8A@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: european adventures shoutouts and thanks Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:33:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c8dee6$badc4020$6701a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8DEAC.0E7FD920" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acjev8jb/9cfKEQ6Ssyzu67ip9V8swAD21nQ In-Reply-To: <20080705165418.CEE2B3BE8A@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:33:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8DEAC.0E7FD920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's been nearly two weeks since I got back from 5 weeks in Europe, and I had a great trip. I stayed in Zurich for the better part of 4 weeks with my host and brother in arms Bernard Wagner, who gamely recorded several hours of my loop improvisations, and also played with me on several as well, successfully clocking my LP-1 with his EDP, not to mention making killer muesli for breakfast. He also was kind enough to score me a couple of clinics, one at a music school in Winterthur, and at a music shop in Will. The clinic at the music school was to an audience of mostly twenty year olds, and I did an hour of playing and talking about lap steel and slide playing, covering open tunings, and slide techniques, palm harmonics, a little history, a bit of recommendation of players to check out and influences, and some gear talk. The other hour I devoted more to looping, and looping techniques, but tried to focus as much on what can be done on basic entry level units as I did showing what my state of the art LP-1 can do, Demonstrating guitar beat box techniques, and promoting the benefit's of looping as a practice tool for developing instrumental skills, as well as covering how I use looping to compose and improvise.. I invited people up afterward to take a crack at my Lap steel and loop rig, and spent the remainder of the session answering questions. The music store clinic in Will was a much wider demographic and I did a more condensed clinic and also actually demoed an RC-20 and a Dl4 in series. At both clinics I was struck by how relatively obscure the lap steel is over in Europe, even more so than in the states, and it was gratifying to experience peoples reactions to the sound and expressive possibilities of the instrument. The first week in Switzerland, we traveled to Bern where Bernard had arranged a trio gig with trumpeter/ looper/soundscaper Werner Hasler and drummer/percussionist Gilbert Paeffgen. We did two sets of free jazz/ electronica in a cool underground bunker club, and what looping we did, was more abstract, non linear and not synced, and worked really well.. Many thanks to Werner Hassler, for inviting me to play and putting me up for the night Nearly three weeks in to my trip my wife Nancy joined us and she and Bernard and I took the night train to Berlin for the Berlin Looping fest. It was a great event in spite of my own sub par and tired set, and it was great to re connect with everyone and meet some new friends as well. Many thanks Leander for all of his work and his gracious inclusion of Bernard and I late in the game. Also many thanks to the great Andreas Willers who hosted us at his home in the "Eastern Sector", and invited us to his cool outdoor gig the next evening where they played Hendrix tunes with a more free jazz aesthetic., and I got to hang out with my looping buddies and drink beer.. The day after we returned from Berlin, Nancy and I flew to Istanbul where we were guests of Erdem Helvacioglu and his lovely partner Esin, and spent a week recording with Erdem, and doing some sight seeing. I'm very excited about the project Erdem and I did and will be continuing to work on over the next several months. We had a great time in Istanbul, a truly amazing city, and got to witness such things as a crowded Taksim square going crazy the night Turkey beat the Czech Republic in a qualifying round for the Euro football championships. This was a qualifying round and people were acting like armistice had been declared ! I can't thank Erdem and Esin enough for extending the invitation to visit a place I had not been to since I was 3 years old, back when my father had been serving in the air force stationed in Libya. One evening Nancy and I took the opportunity to spread a little vial of my Dad's ashes in the Bosporus. My dad was a man of the world. We spent one more week in Switzerland where we did the afore mentioned clinics, some more recording and spent a night outside of Will in a little hamlet at the home of Bernard's dear friend Damien, and took a drive and hike in to the eastern Alps the following day. I think my favorite audience on the whole trip where the group of village children who gathered to hear our impromptu patio jam at Damien's house the evening we spent at his house. A perfect evening and coda to a great trip. I am determined to get an earlier start on doing this again next year so this is my official letter of interest to anyone thinking of organizing a looping festival in Europe next summer, or better yet, late spring. I would love to come be a part of it. Thanks again to everyone who showed me tremendous hospitality on this great trip. Bill PS my gear for the most part performed with flying colors, with the one exception being my monster power strip that couldn't handle a step down transformer in Istanbul and fried, taking the transformer with it in a hail of black smoke. blowing a fuse on my preamp but other wise not harming anything else, I got charged about 90 euro for over weight on the connecting flight fro Switzerland to turkey but not on the way back which was curious. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8DEAC.0E7FD920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It’s been nearly two weeks = since I got back from 5 weeks in Europe, and = I had a great trip. I stayed in Zurich for the better part of 4 weeks with my host and brother in arms Bernard = Wagner, who gamely recorded several hours of my loop improvisations, and also = played with me on several as well, successfully clocking my LP-1 with his EDP, not = to mention making killer muesli for breakfast. He also was kind enough to = score me a couple of clinics, one at a music school in Winterthur, and at a music shop in = Will. The clinic at the music school was to an audience of mostly twenty year olds, and I = did an hour of playing and talking about lap steel and slide playing, covering = open tunings, and slide techniques, palm harmonics, a little history, a bit = of recommendation of players to check out and influences, and some gear talk. The other = hour I devoted more to looping, and looping techniques, but tried to focus as much on = what can be done on basic entry level units as I did showing what my state of the = art LP-1 can do, Demonstrating guitar beat box techniques, and promoting the = benefit’s of looping as a practice tool for developing instrumental skills, as = well as covering how I use looping to compose and improvise.. I invited people = up afterward to take a crack at my Lap steel and loop rig, and spent the = remainder of the session answering questions. The music store clinic in Will was a = much wider demographic and I did a more condensed clinic and also actually = demoed an RC-20 and a Dl4 in series.  At both clinics I was struck by how = relatively obscure the lap steel is over in Europe, even more so than in the states, and it was gratifying to experience peoples reactions to the sound and expressive possibilities of the = instrument.

The first week in = Switzerland, we traveled to Bern where Bernard had arranged a = trio gig with trumpeter/ looper/soundscaper  Werner Hasler and = drummer/percussionist Gilbert Paeffgen. We did two sets of free jazz/ electronica in a cool underground bunker club, and what looping we did, was more abstract, non = linear and not synced, and  worked really well.. Many thanks to Werner = Hassler, for inviting me to play  and putting me up for the = night

Nearly three weeks in to my trip my = wife Nancy joined us and she and Bernard and I took the night train to Berlin for the Berlin Looping fest. = It was a great event in spite of my own sub par and tired set, and it was great = to re connect with everyone and meet some new friends as well. Many thanks Leander for = all of his work and his gracious inclusion of Bernard and I late in the game. = Also many thanks to the great Andreas Willers who hosted us at his home in the = “Eastern Sector”, and invited us to his cool outdoor gig the next evening = where they played Hendrix tunes with a more free jazz aesthetic., and I got to = hang out with my looping buddies and drink = beer..

 The day after we returned = from Berlin, Nancy and I flew to Istanbul where we were guests of = Erdem Helvacioglu and his lovely partner Esin, and spent a week recording with Erdem, and = doing some sight seeing. I’m very excited about the project Erdem and I = did and will be continuing to work on over the next several months. We had a = great time in Istanbul, a truly amazing city, and = got to witness such things as a crowded Taksim square going crazy the night = Turkey beat the Czech Republic in a qualifying round for the Euro football championships. This was a = qualifying round and people were acting like armistice had been declared !  I = can’t thank Erdem and Esin enough for extending the invitation to visit a = place I had not been to since I was 3 years old, back when my father had been = serving in the air force stationed in Libya. One evening Nancy and I took the = opportunity to spread a little vial of my Dad’s ashes in the Bosporus. My dad was a man of the world.

 We spent one more week in = Switzerland where we did the afore mentioned clinics, some more recording and spent = a night outside of Will in a little hamlet at the home of Bernard’s dear = friend Damien, and took a drive and hike  in to the eastern Alps the following = day. I think my favorite audience on the whole trip where the group of village children who gathered to hear our impromptu patio jam at Damien’s = house the evening we spent at his house. A perfect evening and coda to a great = trip.

I am determined to get an earlier = start on doing this again next year so this is my official letter of interest to = anyone thinking of organizing a looping festival in Europe next summer, or = better yet, late spring.  I would love to come be a part of = it.

 Thanks again to everyone who = showed me tremendous hospitality on this great = trip.

 Bill =

 

PS my gear for the most part = performed with flying colors, with the one exception being my monster power strip = that couldn’t handle a step down transformer in Istanbul and fried, = taking the transformer with it in a hail of black smoke. blowing a fuse on my = preamp but other wise not harming anything else,  I got charged  about 90 = euro for over weight on the connecting flight fro Switzerland to turkey but = not on the way back which was curious.

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8DEAC.0E7FD920-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 6 00:01:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFB243BE98; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMf+OysV7 Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: WG: european adventures shoutouts and thanks Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:01:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Acjev8jb/9cfKEQ6Ssyzu67ip9V8swAD21nQAAZL3YAABL6OIA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (should go to the list - Bill uses an odd "reply to" setting...sorry = Bill for that) -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill [mailto:rs@moinlabs.de]=20 Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008 00:22 An: 'billwalker@baymoon.com' Betreff: AW: european adventures shoutouts and thanks Hey Bill, =20 nice tor read your report of the European tour of the younger half of = the Walker Brothers ;). I'll just comment on a few items you mentioned: =20 Reading that your Berlin set was sub par actually makes me pissed I = didn't hear any of your super par sets on that tour - I really liked your slide guitar work, especially your version of "In a slient way". Speaking of slide guitar, from my experience people here use that in = bands that have both - country and western, but I never heard someone use one = in another musical context here... And I like to second your praise of Andreas Willers. As I already = mentioned in my "tour highlights" on www.myspace.ccom/moinlabs in the blog = section, Andreas was my favourite performer on that entire tour. I'm so bummed = that I actually had a chance to win him for a performance here in M=FCnchen = together with Rick and me and let that chance pass - well, maybe next time... One great experience on that tour for me was to all the time connect = with people I had met before, or met over the internet, and sometimes meeting them several times on the tour (the same that it seems it was for you). After departing in M=FCnchen, I first went to Helsinki to play Mir-0's = events (a guy I originally met at Rick's festival two years ago, Rick btw I originally met on this list here). In Helsinki and Espoo, we were joined = by Rick and Per - but Mir-0 and I did the Thursday performance without = them, because they already had continued their tour back to Sweden - but = joined the kybermusik session in the evening from a hotel room in Sweden. Mir-0 then went on to join Per and Rick in Sweden, while I returned to = M=FCnchen... ...only to move to Boise (for BEMF), to meet up with Krispen (whom I = also had originally met on this list) Jeff Kaiser (whom I had met at Y2k6loopfest) and Andrew Pask of The Choir Boys. The first concert was = at Idaho Falls, a concert presented by Craig Green, who left the following Friday and thus missed the BEMF main festival, because he went to K=F6ln = to play Michael's festival. BEMF was not only a wonderful experience by itself (and I had the = pleasure to meet Ted Killian again, one of the many people I originally met at Y2k6loopfest), it also featured the best kybermusik event to date - = which included kybermusik veterans Jim Goodin and Daryl Shawn (who had formed their chinapainting Ninjam collaboration after meeting at the = Y2k6loopfest kybermusik event), and again Per Boysen (who played a session with = Michael Bearpark, Jared Hallock and me). After Boise, it was back to Germany, and the next performance was the = Berlin looping festival, again meeting up with Per, with Rick (who was to join = me for the remainder of my tour for two concerts in M=FCnchen) and with = Craig Green, and for the first time meeting in person our own Stefan Tiedje = (who also was part of the first big kybermusik event of y2k6loopfest, as well = as of the Epsoo kybermusik session earlier on the tour). He wasn't part of = the bill for that festival, but had brought his computer - which led me to = ask him to process me, for a wonderful experience for me (and I hope for the audience and Stefan as well - at least I received thanks from two = audience members specifically, one of them a dog). And this was the place where I = had the pleasure to catch the wonderful Andreas Willers - again: if you get = a chance to hear him play, go fucking do so! Ending the tour was first the Soccer Commentary in M=FCnchen (featuring = Rick Walker and Leander Reininghaus), and on the following Wednesday the last concert of that tour for me at Pasing near M=FCnchen. As unfortunately = Luis Angulo had to cancel, it was only Rick and me - with what I believe the = best performance of my tour, and the bast black light of Rick's tour ;) A great experience - whow! It's a wonderful world where basically via = the internet, I as an amateur musician get two play a world tour, covering = more than a dozen performances in seven towns in three contries on two = continents within a mere three weeks and one day - and getting booked for some of = the events by people who only know me via the internet, and being able to = book two shows for Rick (as I mentioned, another one of those internet guys) = with presenters who only know his myspace page... Welcome to the twenty-first century! It's a crazy world. And thanks = again to Per, Rick, Bill, Stefan, Krispen, Ted, and anyone else who was part of = that experience and who is present on that list (I'm sure I forgot some of = you!) 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Get started. = --_259c83ce-81a4-4778-a584-8d2b53796229_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 6 19:06:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 335BF3BE8C; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:07:29 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Good Clean Fun Playlist for July 5, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <487117F1.6080802@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:06:38 +0000 (UTC) The following playlist has no defined genre focus. There is some EM and Prog but there is also lots of other stuff, too. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080705.html Good Clean Fun is normally hosted by Kate but everyone needs a break and I filled in because I had the time and like to stretch beyond the confines of the Electronic Music and Progressive Rock programs that I normally present on two stations serving the Lehigh Valley. I included those elements but then had fun with it to keep in the spirit of Kate's show which airs each Saturday from 8:04 pm to 11:01 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. July 5, 2008 PLAYLIST: 8:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Vangelis The Motion of Stars Direct (Arista) Vinyl Kings A Little Trip A Little Trip (Vinly Kings) Vinyl Kings I Took A Chance A Little Trip (Vinly Kings) Austin Lounge Shallow End of the Small Minds (Sugar Hill) Lizards Gene Pool Electric Farm Lost My Mind Boomschlang Viper Story (none) Electric Farm Go Go Boots Boomschlang Viper Story (none) Spock's Beard June The Kindness of Strangers (Radiant) 8:30 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Toto Africa Toto IV (CBS) NaNa Snake Girl Snake Girl (For Life) Saxlife The Big Medley Total Sax Retain (none) Beatles And Your Bird Can Revolver (Capitol) Sing Hayseed Dixie Highway To Hell A Hillbilly Tribute To AC/DC Throat Culture Easter Island Head Acapella Head (none) 9:00 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ed Gerhard Promised Land House of Guitars (Virtue) Beatles gniK nuS Love (Capitol) Beatles Something Love (Capitol) Beatles Blue Jay Way Love (Capitol) Beatles Being For the Love (Capitol) Benefit of Mr. Kite It's Them! Street Man CDR Dixie Dregs Bloodsucking Bring 'Em Back Alive Leeches (Capricorn) 9:30 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Guddal and Matte The Battle of Genesis for Two Grand Pianos Epping Forest (Musea) Salem Hill The Joy Gem Mimi's Magic Moment (Progrock) Kevin Gilbert's Thud Kashmir Thud Bonus CD (PRA) Ozone Player Orange Apples Orange Apples (Visual Power) 10:00 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Jordan Rudess Dance On a Volcano The Road Home (Magna Carta) Blackfield Blackfield Blackfield (Snapper) Any X. Neuburg Life Stepped In Residue (Other Minds) Vinyl Kings Time Machine Time Machine (Vinly Kings) Vinyl Kings Mr. Greedyman Time Machine (Vinly Kings) 10:30 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== The Rembrandts Just the Way It Is, The Rembrandts (Atco) Baby Flim & the BBs Tricycle Tricycle (DMP) Jellyfish That Is Why Bellybutton (Charisma) Toy Matinee We Always Come Home Toy Matinee (Reprise) ShadowPlay Give A Little Bit CDR Wayne Lytle Harmonic Voltage Animusic (Animusic) 11:01 pm * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from All Is Now on Timeroom Editions. ====================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. Galactic Travels web site - http://galactictravels.info RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT (GMT-4) on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, New Age, or whatever strikes my fancy. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm ====================================================================== Host of Afterglow every Thursday at 8:00 am EDT (GMT-4) on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM. Phase 1: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, New Age, or whatever strikes my fancy. Phase 2: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow MySpace: http://myspace.com/afterglowonwmuh ====================================================================== Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls ====================================================================== Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 6 21:14:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 739AF3BE88; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:14:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:14:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a clip of just some of my stream of consciousness playing today, which demonstrates the new random functionality of my max/msp system. Basically, there are three things going on here, aside from my playing and not touching any pedal or the computer the whole time. The three highest notes of my guitar trigger random looping (on/off), random effects (on/off), and random parameter changes of the random effects (on/off). Most of the time I am intentionally playing one of those three high notes to trigger the functionality, after which I let the randomness take over. Other times, if I play a harmonic that is of one of those high notes, it triggers the functionality without my permission, which is sort of cool as well. Having to manually trigger the functionality gets sort of old after a while, plus you have to hear those same three annoying high notes. So, I will just randomize the guitar frequency selection of those three functions. Or, I just may as well make those three functions randomly turn on and off, regardless of guitar note choice. The output probably won't be much different. All in all, it is a lot of fun to play with the system. I'm never quite certain what my computer is going to throw at me that I will have to react to. In one passage, it randomly selected a filter effect, and it was very intense. I had to react by playing softly. There are all sorts of possibilities exploring here. http://www.box.net/shared/fx3p5m74kg (download/play) http://www.box.net/shared/static/fx3p5m74kg.mp3 (direct mp3) Kris >> Well, I finally did it. In my quest to selfishly spend more time with my >> instrument (guitar), more time actually playing, and less time fiddling >> with and staring at the damn computer while playing (which looks >> absolutely ridiculous in my opinion), I figured out how to have my cake >> and eat it too. I just finished my revised max/msp looping/effects >> system. I was very inspired by the Boise Experimental Music Festival, >> after playing a set before Jeff Kaiser and Andrew Pask (of Cycling 74) >> the first night, and a workshop that Jeff did on the many approaches to >> using the computer for live performance. Andrew is actually using a >> totally random based max/msp system so he just plays his sax and let's >> the computer do everything for him. >> >> Long story short, my rig is totally automated now, using a series of >> random algorithms to control both my max/msp Kaiser Looper and functions >> (everything from my scripts to basic functions like reverse halfspeed, >> doublespeed, random speed, random buffer, random pan, etc), and all my >> max/msp effect patches and parameters (including Reaktor as a VST), I now >> turn my computer on and play. No MIDI footpedals. No expression pedals. I >> just plug into my Fireface 400, activate my system, and let the wonderful >> world of randomness take over. So liberating! I don't even need to have >> my computer screen open. It's like playing with another person whose job >> is to process my sound (like what Evan Parker has done with others), >> because I have no idea what sort of looping, effects, or parameters >> changes are going to occur. I'm really liking this. The interesting >> thing is that I wasn't satisfied with the standard random object in >> max/msp, so I found and used some max/msp abstractions written by >> Karlheinz Essl, which simulate Brownian movement in micro-biological >> systems. Very fascinating. And of course, I can deactivate the random >> function at anytime, so that while I'm playing, if I hear the computer do >> something really interesting that I like with the looper or effects, I >> turn the random functions off, and it will sort of freeze in the last >> state or frame of looping and effect parameters. >> >> More later...gotta pack for vacation now. >> >> Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 6 21:36:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A0343BE80; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: RE: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:36:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000501c8dfb0$5a2ebdf0$0e8c39d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcjfrVNN6GEOw9rTQxO/eV8jbpXZPQAAr+Xw Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kris, This is great! I really like the spontaneous application of loops/fx. Does max determine the frequency of the '3 high notes' and convert them to midi? -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:15 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig This is a clip of just some of my stream of consciousness playing today, which demonstrates the new random functionality of my max/msp system. ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 6 21:46:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A59383BE88; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05ea01c8dfb1$ae694880$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <000501c8dfb0$5a2ebdf0$0e8c39d0$@com> Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:45:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Thanks! In this case, I fixed the frequencies to that of the last three frets of my guitar (highest notes). So, whenever I played the highest note, it triggers random looping, random effects for the second highest, and random effect parameters for the third highest. There is a patch that I use, created by the inventor of max/msp himself, which analyzes the frequency of your aud8io input and displays it in numerical frequency format (e.g. 100.44, 455.345, etc). After that, I use a conversion patch that maps frequency to plain old numbers, 0, 1, and 2. Each of those numbers triggers one of the three random functionalities. I could have max convert the requencies to MIDI, like what I did with my max/msp guitar synth, but in this case it was not necessary. I just needed a basic integer to associate with a random functionality change. Kris > Hi Kris, > This is great! I really like the spontaneous application of loops/fx. > Does max determine the frequency of the '3 high notes' and convert them to > midi? > > -Qua > > -----Original Message----- > From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:15 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig > > This is a clip of just some of my stream of consciousness playing today, > which demonstrates the new random functionality of my max/msp system. ... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 00:08:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBA383BE80; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080706200840.JXW59.716671.root@fepweb05> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 17:08:40 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WG: european adventures shoutouts and thanks Cc: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Rainer, Thanks for including mention of my name in that august group. It was great getting to see and chat with you again up in Boisie. I have to say that BEMF3 was the best ever. It's really quite amazing the collection of talent and creativity (and shear craziness) that gathered for the event. Long may it thrive. Ted > Welcome to the twenty-first century! It's a crazy world. And thanks again to > Per, Rick, Bill, Stefan, Krispen, Ted, and anyone else who was part of that > experience and who is present on that list (I'm sure I forgot some of you!) > > Rainer From jon-smith@mail.com Mon Jul 7 03:36:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 20870 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:36:12 UTC Received: from mail.sunshinecable.com (mail.sunshinecable.com [209.52.200.3]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8673BE7B; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 03:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.sunshinecable.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59765481F15; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sunshinecable.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05658-14; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.sunshinecable.com (Postfix, from userid 81) id 07D2F4866C4; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.1.34 (192.168.1.34 [192.168.1.34]) by mail.sunshinecable.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:02:15 -0700 Message-ID: <20080706090215.4o3d3aws0ss0gg44@mail.sunshinecable.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:02:15 -0700 From: John Smith To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: A Word Of Treat To You.. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 04:07:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEE433BE88; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 04:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48719688.3070003@musicbymark.net> Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:07:36 -0500 From: Mark Young User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Vocal & Guitar looping - How can I switch vocal on & off? Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <14OQgD.A.sWG.MaZcIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 04:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi, using:

*Digitech JamMan w/ FS1 footswitch
*Acoustic guitar
*SM58 vocal mic

HOW CAN I:

   Loop ONLY GUITAR, so I can GUITAR SOLO/LEAD over the VERSE CHORDS w/o any vocal ?


On the CHORUS, I often want to Loop  guitar AND vocal (which is automatic on JamMan), & harmonize over the chorus vocal.

I did a search for a vocal A/B box, but only found the "Panic Button" (approx. $135 @ Musician's Friend), as regular A/B  or A/B/C boxes are all hi-imped / 1/4" jacks. Is Panic Button the way to go? Any suggestions???

Thanks for any help or suggestions on controlling this or any loosely related strategies that might be interesting.

Mark Young
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Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-875072300 Message-Id: <1731d330556297fd5eae4193dfcfb945@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: FS Otaro1/2" 8 track,Korg prophecy Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:37:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 04:37:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-875072300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed I used to have an Otari 8 track! Have a ton of old tapes. They're=20 orphaned now. You can write me off group if you'd like richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 6-Jul-08, at 9:57 AM, samba - wrote: > =A0 I'm selling : > an Otari mx5050 mkIII 1/2" 8 track ,with remote, The stop switch for=20= > the transport doesn't work ,many need to e replaced,or futzed with. i=20= > understand parts are available it has a remote,which I think=20 > works.Also stand and manual. > =A0Best Offer > =A0 A Korg Prophecy,the first physical modelling synth w/ gig bag and=20= > parameter guide. > =A0=A0 This one ,th eenter switch needs to be reseated,other wise = works=20 > fine . > =A0=A0=A0 Best offer. > =A0=A0 I'm trying to raise money for a MAcbook I can get cheap, if = anyone=20 > would give me 400 for both machines that would give me enough to get=20= > the laptop.( I was planning on getting them both fixed and selling for=20= > 500 for the Otari ,and 400 for the Korg,a bit less than the prepal avg=20= > prices) The window will close by tuesday at noon.=A0 i'm in =A0 Santa=20= > Cruz/SF bayarea > =A0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =95 "A human being is a part of a whole, called by us = _universe_, a=20 > part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts=20= > and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical=20= > delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for=20= > us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few=20= > persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this=20 > prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living=20 > creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."=A0=A0=A0 Einstein > > > > > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live=20 > Messenger. Get started.=20= --Apple-Mail-5-875072300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 I used to have an Otari 8 track! Have a ton of old tapes. They're orphaned now. You can write me off group if you'd like Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C =20 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com =20 www.broombusters.org On 6-Jul-08, at 9:57 AM, samba - wrote: =A0 I'm selling : an Otari mx5050 mkIII 1/2" 8 track ,with remote, The stop switch for the transport doesn't work ,many need to e replaced,or futzed with. i understand parts are available it has a remote,which I think works.Also stand and manual. =A0Best Offer =A0 A Korg Prophecy,the first physical modelling synth w/ gig bag and parameter guide. =A0=A0 This one ,th eenter switch needs to be = reseated,other wise works fine . =A0=A0=A0 Best offer. =A0=A0 I'm trying to raise money for a MAcbook I can get cheap, if anyone would give me 400 for both machines that would give me enough to get the laptop.( I was planning on getting them both fixed and selling for 500 for the Otari ,and 400 for the Korg,a bit less than the prepal avg prices) The window will close by tuesday at noon.=A0 i'm in =A0 Santa Cruz/SF bayarea =A0 =95 "A human being is a part of a whole, called by = us _universe_, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."=A0=A0=A0 Einstein Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. 0000,0000,EEEEGet started. = --Apple-Mail-5-875072300-- From root@valencia.vservers.es Mon Jul 7 06:04:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 62158 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:04:15 UTC Received: from valencia.vservers.es (valencia.vservers.es [91.142.211.242]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98713BE80 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 06:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13835 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jul 2008 13:05:24 +0200 Date: 6 Jul 2008 13:05:24 +0200 Message-ID: <20080706110524.13832.qmail@valencia.vservers.es> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 07:20:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97EC13BE8C; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 07:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em00 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:20:44 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200807070720.m677Ki80000684@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: FS Otaro1/2" 8 track,Korg prophecy X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 193.158.99.226 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 07:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Now, I would fail to understand why anyone would part with either an Otari = 8-track or a Korg Prophecy. Owned the latter for some time, got rid of it a= t one point because, having learned keyboard on an Steinway acoustic grand,= the keyboard (three octaves? two and a hallf?) just didn't do it for me. S= till, highly recommended for anyone who needs a synth for leads not spannin= g five octaves or bass lines, likes the ribbon-controller-on-a-mod-wheel an= d is happy with monophonic sound generation. Rainer ----- original Nachricht -------- I'm selling : an Otari mx5050 mkIII 1/2" 8 track ,with remote, The stop switch for the tr= ansport doesn't work ,many need to e replaced,or A=20 [...] Korg Prophecy,the first physical modelling synth w/ gig bag and parameter g= uide. =20 [...] I'm trying to raise money for a MAcbook From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 08:44:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21FB03BE8C; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4871D789.1080504@addcom.de> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:44:57 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Laptop Audio Interface References: <00d901c8d7be$9111cc80$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823088DEE36@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> <20080629105443.229800@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080629105443.229800@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Buzap Buzap schrieb: > Concerning, MOTU, I have heard especially complaints about the old > 828. I haven't heard complaints about the Motu Traveler or Motu > Ultralite I never had problems with the old 828, though the pots aren't the best quality, they start to crackle now after 6 or 8 years. (Don't know the exact age). One advantage of the 828 is, that the converters also deal with DC. That would allow to use them as cv interface for analog synths for example... I did have Travellers in my hands, they worked flawless... 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Reference ID: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 12:28:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1DE43BE82; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:28:23 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <48719688.3070003@musicbymark.net> Message-ID: <20080707122823.124690@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48719688.3070003@musicbymark.net> Subject: Re: Vocal & Guitar looping - How can I switch vocal on & off? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18v5J89MjYv8A9xU+yT2WGjbqOBZz0oG8Z2Mraa/J HD8JBBkYmKg+abH/LcrFL8x9gOIUSFToQWmg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: iWYQHPIQbXB+NsxpyTU2dm0iLyUmZYhH Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark I'm doing similar things here. What I do is sometimes split the vocal signal and then route it through pedals. You might need something like a mixer to balance guit/vox levels. If you want a minimalistic setup, you can use a simple impedance converter on the mic. I also like the Nobels A/B pedals for their flexibility (have volume controls on both A,B). If you can specifcy your complete setup (mixer, PA/amp etc.) I can give you more specific suggestions. best regards Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 14:40:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98B693BE7B; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User:DomainKey-Status; b=DRkelFdQoaQfiLZV19Cxd4uM/+wM0mUtW6IPS+10gbneWaq31Y85OjKEJmJZo+/E63cbQqsqrKLknQjsltzGZ6EAM65EeMQDJo2z3I64YIjtPRmIPHvJ+8n/wTnYVs/s; Message-ID: <20080707094037.zz1ujydaso04w888@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:40:37 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig References: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <000501c8dfb0$5a2ebdf0$0e8c39d0$@com> <05ea01c8dfb1$ae694880$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <05ea01c8dfb1$ae694880$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} DomainKey-Status: no signature Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Enjoyed listening to this -- kind of like real-time musique concrete. This year I promised myself that I wouldn't acquire any new hardware =20 or software -- that I want to master the equipment that I have. =20 Having said that, I keep visiting the MAX/MSP website and may break =20 down and get it. The only "hold up" is that I like to notate my music and max/msp =20 doesn't have notation. If it would run as a VST plugin, then I could =20 manage the Notation on the Cubase side and the processing on the =20 MAX/MSP side. -- Kevin Quoting Krispen Hartung : > > Thanks! In this case, I fixed the frequencies to that of the last > three frets of my guitar (highest notes). So, whenever I played the > highest note, it triggers random looping, random effects for the second > highest, and random effect parameters for the third highest. There is > a patch that I use, created by the inventor of max/msp himself, which > analyzes the frequency of your aud8io input and displays it in > numerical frequency format (e.g. 100.44, 455.345, etc). After that, I > use a conversion patch that maps frequency to plain old numbers, 0, 1, > and 2. Each of those numbers triggers one of the three random > functionalities. I could have max convert the requencies to MIDI, like > what I did with my max/msp guitar synth, but in this case it was not > necessary. I just needed a basic integer to associate with a random > functionality change. > Kris > > >> Hi Kris, >> This is great! I really like the spontaneous application of loops/fx. >> Does max determine the frequency of the '3 high notes' and convert them t= o >> midi? >> >> -Qua >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:15 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig >> >> This is a clip of just some of my stream of consciousness playing today, >> which demonstrates the new random functionality of my max/msp system. ... >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 15:49:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B266B3BE89; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001201c8e049$183a0870$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net><000501c8dfb0$5a2ebdf0$0e8c39d0$@com><05ea01c8dfb1$ae694880$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20080707094037.zz1ujydaso04w888@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:49:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Vpipe: Scanner said ok (av_avast) X-IP-stats: No info recorded yet ip=24.117.71.148 X-Originating-IP: 24.117.71.148 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kevin - max/msp will run VSTs. It's just a simple patch that you construct that runs the VST. I run Reaktor as a VST inside max/msp, and used to run tons of VST effects before I started creating my own on max. And, of course, if you have time, you could write a max patch that notes your music. There is really not a lot of limitation to what you can do, if you have the time and the technical acumen. If you can't build it in max, then folks write their own "externals" for max, which is getting closer to real programming. I don't know what they use to write the externals, but it could be Visual Basic or C++. Stefen (both on this list) would know. I know it's now assembly language!!! :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- Enjoyed listening to this -- kind of like real-time musique concrete. This year I promised myself that I wouldn't acquire any new hardware or software -- that I want to master the equipment that I have. Having said that, I keep visiting the MAX/MSP website and may break down and get it. The only "hold up" is that I like to notate my music and max/msp doesn't have notation. If it would run as a VST plugin, then I could manage the Notation on the Cubase side and the processing on the MAX/MSP side. -- Kevin Quoting Krispen Hartung : > > Thanks! In this case, I fixed the frequencies to that of the last > three frets of my guitar (highest notes). So, whenever I played the > highest note, it triggers random looping, random effects for the second > highest, and random effect parameters for the third highest. There is > a patch that I use, created by the inventor of max/msp himself, which > analyzes the frequency of your aud8io input and displays it in > numerical frequency format (e.g. 100.44, 455.345, etc). After that, I > use a conversion patch that maps frequency to plain old numbers, 0, 1, > and 2. Each of those numbers triggers one of the three random > functionalities. I could have max convert the requencies to MIDI, like > what I did with my max/msp guitar synth, but in this case it was not > necessary. I just needed a basic integer to associate with a random > functionality change. > Kris > > >> Hi Kris, >> This is great! I really like the spontaneous application of loops/fx. >> Does max determine the frequency of the '3 high notes' and convert them >> to >> midi? >> >> -Qua >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:15 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig >> >> This is a clip of just some of my stream of consciousness playing today, >> which demonstrates the new random functionality of my max/msp system. ... >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 17:02:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA2663BE80; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <022301c8e053$3d120e40$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:02:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: smtp3.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Kris, enjoyed listening to it. ....Playing with your laptop driving you on unknown paths sounds really experimental and i think you're having a lot of fun playing with it A question: how does it work on your set-up the "feedback" control for thelooped stuff ? Does it change everytime you trigger the looping function ? Nice, really nice. Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig > This is a clip of just some of my stream of consciousness playing today, > which demonstrates the new random functionality of my max/msp system. > Basically, there are three things going on here, aside from my playing and > not touching any pedal or the computer the whole time. The three highest > notes of my guitar trigger random looping (on/off), random effects > (on/off), and random parameter changes of the random effects (on/off). > Most of the time I am intentionally playing one of those three high notes > to trigger the functionality, after which I let the randomness take over. > Other times, if I play a harmonic that is of one of those high notes, it > triggers the functionality without my permission, which is sort of cool as > well. Having to manually trigger the functionality gets sort of old after > a while, plus you have to hear those same three annoying high notes. So, I > will just randomize the guitar frequency selection of those three > functions. Or, I just may as well make those three functions randomly turn > on and off, regardless of guitar note choice. The output probably won't be > much different. > > All in all, it is a lot of fun to play with the system. I'm never quite > certain what my computer is going to throw at me that I will have to react > to. In one passage, it randomly selected a filter effect, and it was very > intense. I had to react by playing softly. > > There are all sorts of possibilities exploring here. > > http://www.box.net/shared/fx3p5m74kg (download/play) > http://www.box.net/shared/static/fx3p5m74kg.mp3 (direct mp3) > > Kris > > > >>> Well, I finally did it. In my quest to selfishly spend more time with >>> my instrument (guitar), more time actually playing, and less time >>> fiddling with and staring at the damn computer while playing (which >>> looks absolutely ridiculous in my opinion), I figured out how to have my >>> cake and eat it too. I just finished my revised max/msp looping/effects >>> system. I was very inspired by the Boise Experimental Music Festival, >>> after playing a set before Jeff Kaiser and Andrew Pask (of Cycling 74) >>> the first night, and a workshop that Jeff did on the many approaches to >>> using the computer for live performance. Andrew is actually using a >>> totally random based max/msp system so he just plays his sax and let's >>> the computer do everything for him. >>> >>> Long story short, my rig is totally automated now, using a series of >>> random algorithms to control both my max/msp Kaiser Looper and functions >>> (everything from my scripts to basic functions like reverse halfspeed, >>> doublespeed, random speed, random buffer, random pan, etc), and all my >>> max/msp effect patches and parameters (including Reaktor as a VST), I >>> now turn my computer on and play. No MIDI footpedals. No expression >>> pedals. I just plug into my Fireface 400, activate my system, and let >>> the wonderful world of randomness take over. So liberating! I don't even >>> need to have my computer screen open. It's like playing with another >>> person whose job is to process my sound (like what Evan Parker has done >>> with others), because I have no idea what sort of looping, effects, or >>> parameters changes are going to occur. I'm really liking this. The >>> interesting thing is that I wasn't satisfied with the standard random >>> object in max/msp, so I found and used some max/msp abstractions written >>> by Karlheinz Essl, which simulate Brownian movement in micro-biological >>> systems. Very fascinating. And of course, I can deactivate the random >>> function at anytime, so that while I'm playing, if I hear the computer >>> do something really interesting that I like with the looper or effects, >>> I turn the random functions off, and it will sort of freeze in the last >>> state or frame of looping and effect parameters. >>> >>> More later...gotta pack for vacation now. >>> >>> Kris >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 17:22:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6534C3BE7F; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=/f5zE42yG6IVQYCLohNBs8gOtq8ck2ht/ugSMkp09VA=; b=fNpo3ixh8pq/eNwVk9obDi4uwEJESQ0ozDKXfg5s8c+IIoqpeQV02hDA6Sl0n/9s3Q 2c5dXV7OwCHsRj8FSz2+anIMuA6oQp3bUp3c1duYK12LcB+qMfTwctSCEsBAKgT8paS7 PVqjUkg5XlIkDvZxMpOKAYOYBeTgp/UzdWFVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=plNi6uDXM3zy6XvfQjuYeSdov+jkdKubkjlmny8vPxzW1mD/AzQZGP+UgsxGohDQHz IMJlFapsAUcUy+DozUDXAY4HLgBZQhF4Y5Mdp2dE3hX15oW3XSCVH2GCRrPzkRCqzUG0 Ih93IJtAsntDwjv8iTMC5BKwST4Gytq8md8gY= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807071022i71b1912cyb82b37800e9781cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:22:23 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_54357_6187455.1215451343274" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:22:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_54357_6187455.1215451343274 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi folks... If you were choosing between JamMan and the Boss 20XL what are your opinions? I'm considering JM due to USB and storage. Anything I ought to know that I may not in that this will be my "first" real looping tool? I have a Digitech delay that has a 4 second loop I use a fair amount and have some experience now with Mobius but am desiring for live a dedicated pedal. Thanks in advance. Also though they are not looping I posted three new improv videos on my YouTube page that I recorded over the weekend. They are fretless guitar and violin which is sort of a new explore with me. All acoustic. They're at... fretless guitar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvk2lQTxgUs violin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DY4ftcqISA violin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reY_1AzI7NE If you never saw the Y2K7 Chinapainting videos they are via my page in my favorites, http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic. Jim -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic The Violin of Jim Goodin - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_54357_6187455.1215451343274 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Hi folks...
 
If you were choosing between JamMan and the Boss 20XL what are your opinions?  I'm considering JM due to USB and storage.  Anything I ought to know that I may not in that this will be my "first" real looping tool?  I have a Digitech delay that has a 4 second loop I use a fair amount and have some experience now with Mobius but am desiring for live a dedicated pedal.  Thanks in advance.
 
Also though they are not looping I posted three new improv videos on my YouTube page that I recorded over the weekend.  They are fretless guitar and violin which is sort of a new explore with me.  All acoustic.  They're at...
 
 
If you never saw the Y2K7 Chinapainting videos they are via my page in my favorites, http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic.
 
Jim


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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
The Violin of Jim Goodin - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_54357_6187455.1215451343274-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 17:26:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 314B83BE89; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004701c8e056$97dcd320$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <022301c8e053$3d120e40$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:26:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Right now, I have feedback set to 100%. However, I have the random looping setup so that it doesn't create really long loops, so I don't get into any annoying repetition. You make a good point, though. I think I might try doing is setting the feedback so that the loops decay rather quickly, but change my random functionality so that loop last longer. That would be interesting. Thanks for bringing this up. I've been wanting to do away with infinite feedback looping for some time, based on a comment that Matthias Grob made last year. ...back to work. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Kris, > enjoyed listening to it. > ....Playing with your laptop driving you on unknown paths sounds really > experimental and i think you're having a lot of fun playing with it > A question: how does it work on your set-up the "feedback" control for > thelooped stuff ? Does it change everytime you trigger the looping > function ? > Nice, really nice. > > Fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Krispen Hartung" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:14 PM > Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig > > >> This is a clip of just some of my stream of consciousness playing today, >> which demonstrates the new random functionality of my max/msp system. >> Basically, there are three things going on here, aside from my playing >> and not touching any pedal or the computer the whole time. The three >> highest notes of my guitar trigger random looping (on/off), random >> effects (on/off), and random parameter changes of the random effects >> (on/off). Most of the time I am intentionally playing one of those three >> high notes to trigger the functionality, after which I let the randomness >> take over. Other times, if I play a harmonic that is of one of those high >> notes, it triggers the functionality without my permission, which is sort >> of cool as well. Having to manually trigger the functionality gets sort >> of old after a while, plus you have to hear those same three annoying >> high notes. So, I will just randomize the guitar frequency selection of >> those three functions. Or, I just may as well make those three functions >> randomly turn on and off, regardless of guitar note choice. The output >> probably won't be much different. >> >> All in all, it is a lot of fun to play with the system. I'm never quite >> certain what my computer is going to throw at me that I will have to >> react to. In one passage, it randomly selected a filter effect, and it >> was very intense. I had to react by playing softly. >> >> There are all sorts of possibilities exploring here. >> >> http://www.box.net/shared/fx3p5m74kg (download/play) >> http://www.box.net/shared/static/fx3p5m74kg.mp3 (direct mp3) >> >> Kris >> >> >> >>>> Well, I finally did it. In my quest to selfishly spend more time with >>>> my instrument (guitar), more time actually playing, and less time >>>> fiddling with and staring at the damn computer while playing (which >>>> looks absolutely ridiculous in my opinion), I figured out how to have >>>> my cake and eat it too. I just finished my revised max/msp >>>> looping/effects system. I was very inspired by the Boise Experimental >>>> Music Festival, after playing a set before Jeff Kaiser and Andrew Pask >>>> (of Cycling 74) the first night, and a workshop that Jeff did on the >>>> many approaches to using the computer for live performance. Andrew is >>>> actually using a totally random based max/msp system so he just plays >>>> his sax and let's the computer do everything for him. >>>> >>>> Long story short, my rig is totally automated now, using a series of >>>> random algorithms to control both my max/msp Kaiser Looper and >>>> functions (everything from my scripts to basic functions like reverse >>>> halfspeed, doublespeed, random speed, random buffer, random pan, etc), >>>> and all my max/msp effect patches and parameters (including Reaktor as >>>> a VST), I now turn my computer on and play. No MIDI footpedals. No >>>> expression pedals. I just plug into my Fireface 400, activate my >>>> system, and let the wonderful world of randomness take over. So >>>> liberating! I don't even need to have my computer screen open. It's >>>> like playing with another person whose job is to process my sound (like >>>> what Evan Parker has done with others), because I have no idea what >>>> sort of looping, effects, or parameters changes are going to occur. I'm >>>> really liking this. The interesting thing is that I wasn't satisfied >>>> with the standard random object in max/msp, so I found and used some >>>> max/msp abstractions written by Karlheinz Essl, which simulate Brownian >>>> movement in micro-biological systems. Very fascinating. And of course, >>>> I can deactivate the random function at anytime, so that while I'm >>>> playing, if I hear the computer do something really interesting that I >>>> like with the looper or effects, I turn the random functions off, and >>>> it will sort of freeze in the last state or frame of looping and effect >>>> parameters. >>>> >>>> More later...gotta pack for vacation now. >>>> >>>> Kris >>> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 17:35:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F306E3BE8A; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00be01c8e057$cf095110$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <022301c8e053$3d120e40$4001a8c0@pcfabio> <004701c8e056$97dcd320$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:35:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:35:12 +0000 (UTC) ---- Original Message ----- > Right now, I have feedback set to 100%. However, I have the random looping > setup so that it doesn't create really long loops, so I don't get into any > annoying repetition. I didn't say that right. Long doesn't equal annoying repetition. For some reason, I just set it up so that the loops are shorter, but I plan to change that today. The nice thing is that if I like a particular loop, I just play a note to freeze the looper. K You make a good point, though. I think I might try > doing is setting the feedback so that the loops decay rather quickly, but > change my random functionality so that loop last longer. That would be > interesting. Thanks for bringing this up. I've been wanting to do away > with infinite feedback looping for some time, based on a comment that > Matthias Grob made last year. > > ...back to work. > Kris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> Kris, >> enjoyed listening to it. >> ....Playing with your laptop driving you on unknown paths sounds really >> experimental and i think you're having a lot of fun playing with it >> A question: how does it work on your set-up the "feedback" control for >> thelooped stuff ? Does it change everytime you trigger the looping >> function ? >> Nice, really nice. >> >> Fabio >> www.eterogeneo.com >> www.myspace.com/eterogeneo >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Krispen Hartung" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:14 PM >> Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig >> >> >>> This is a clip of just some of my stream of consciousness playing today, >>> which demonstrates the new random functionality of my max/msp system. >>> Basically, there are three things going on here, aside from my playing >>> and not touching any pedal or the computer the whole time. The three >>> highest notes of my guitar trigger random looping (on/off), random >>> effects (on/off), and random parameter changes of the random effects >>> (on/off). Most of the time I am intentionally playing one of those three >>> high notes to trigger the functionality, after which I let the >>> randomness take over. Other times, if I play a harmonic that is of one >>> of those high notes, it triggers the functionality without my >>> permission, which is sort of cool as well. Having to manually trigger >>> the functionality gets sort of old after a while, plus you have to hear >>> those same three annoying high notes. So, I will just randomize the >>> guitar frequency selection of those three functions. Or, I just may as >>> well make those three functions randomly turn on and off, regardless of >>> guitar note choice. The output probably won't be much different. >>> >>> All in all, it is a lot of fun to play with the system. I'm never quite >>> certain what my computer is going to throw at me that I will have to >>> react to. In one passage, it randomly selected a filter effect, and it >>> was very intense. I had to react by playing softly. >>> >>> There are all sorts of possibilities exploring here. >>> >>> http://www.box.net/shared/fx3p5m74kg (download/play) >>> http://www.box.net/shared/static/fx3p5m74kg.mp3 (direct mp3) >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> >>> >>>>> Well, I finally did it. In my quest to selfishly spend more time with >>>>> my instrument (guitar), more time actually playing, and less time >>>>> fiddling with and staring at the damn computer while playing (which >>>>> looks absolutely ridiculous in my opinion), I figured out how to have >>>>> my cake and eat it too. I just finished my revised max/msp >>>>> looping/effects system. I was very inspired by the Boise Experimental >>>>> Music Festival, after playing a set before Jeff Kaiser and Andrew Pask >>>>> (of Cycling 74) the first night, and a workshop that Jeff did on the >>>>> many approaches to using the computer for live performance. Andrew is >>>>> actually using a totally random based max/msp system so he just plays >>>>> his sax and let's the computer do everything for him. >>>>> >>>>> Long story short, my rig is totally automated now, using a series of >>>>> random algorithms to control both my max/msp Kaiser Looper and >>>>> functions (everything from my scripts to basic functions like reverse >>>>> halfspeed, doublespeed, random speed, random buffer, random pan, etc), >>>>> and all my max/msp effect patches and parameters (including Reaktor as >>>>> a VST), I now turn my computer on and play. No MIDI footpedals. No >>>>> expression pedals. I just plug into my Fireface 400, activate my >>>>> system, and let the wonderful world of randomness take over. So >>>>> liberating! I don't even need to have my computer screen open. It's >>>>> like playing with another person whose job is to process my sound >>>>> (like what Evan Parker has done with others), because I have no idea >>>>> what sort of looping, effects, or parameters changes are going to >>>>> occur. I'm really liking this. The interesting thing is that I wasn't >>>>> satisfied with the standard random object in max/msp, so I found and >>>>> used some max/msp abstractions written by Karlheinz Essl, which >>>>> simulate Brownian movement in micro-biological systems. Very >>>>> fascinating. And of course, I can deactivate the random function at >>>>> anytime, so that while I'm playing, if I hear the computer do >>>>> something really interesting that I like with the looper or effects, I >>>>> turn the random functions off, and it will sort of freeze in the last >>>>> state or frame of looping and effect parameters. >>>>> >>>>> More later...gotta pack for vacation now. >>>>> >>>>> Kris >>>> >>> >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 17:38:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53D423BE91; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=oxd+jGu/Ti+Z9a0z/xmWVcvr6WQIf71rkedYYKGNZmv6u+wR0TlzGlP5B7vSJCZPJbCPh1llxpFtgjEwatmZ14Xss4RsuKHfvtoMTyr1BdNqairRY/bz/MK9b+T9ecwadUyRWmwqUKg4Odtir7B/mQ0V+w7QpO7vf59DTjUUQqA=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:38:12 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Vocal & Guitar looping - How can I switch vocal on & off? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080707122823.124690@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1922814846-1215452292=:53864" Message-ID: <34766.53864.qm@web39204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:38:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-1922814846-1215452292=:53864 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm running a similar system also ...i split my vocals after my harmonizer = ,one side to the PA=A0 ,the other to a 4 channel resistance mixer with my g= uitar & mando..balance the signals from there ...kinda crude but it works f= or me....kyle Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131 =A0 http://www.cdbaby.co= m/cd/kdpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Buzap Buzap wrote: From: Buzap Buzap Subject: Re: Vocal & Guitar looping - How can I switch vocal on & off? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 7:28 AM Hi Mark I'm doing similar things here. What I do is sometimes split the vocal signal and then route it through pedals. You might need something like a mi= xer to balance guit/vox levels. If you want a minimalistic setup, you can use a simple impedance converter= on the mic. I also like the Nobels A/B pedals for their flexibility (have volume contro= ls on both A,B). If you can specifcy your complete setup (mixer, PA/amp etc.) I can give you more specific suggestions. best regards Buzap --=20 GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! 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I'm running a similar system also ...i split my vocals after my harmonizer ,one side to the PA  ,the other to a 4 channel resistance mixer with my guitar & mando..balance the signals from there ...kinda crude but it works for me....kyle

Kyle Dean Patten
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--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
From: Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Vocal & Guitar looping - How can I switch vocal on & off?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 7:28 AM

Hi Mark

I'm doing similar things here. What I do is sometimes split the vocal
signal and then route it through pedals. You might need something like a mixer
to balance guit/vox levels.
If you want a minimalistic setup, you can use a simple  impedance converter on
the mic.
I also like the Nobels A/B pedals for their flexibility (have volume controls
on both A,B).

If you can specifcy your complete setup (mixer, PA/amp etc.) I can give you
more specific suggestions.

best regards
Buzap

-- 
GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen
 Interessen!
Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx
--0-1922814846-1215452292=:53864-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 20:03:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 436853BE8B; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=nsSnfEIVlm12OjX9JNVSaq4MqUGG+b6lVoFU3OXi6JM=; b=MWXLUKN2LtCVenB15ZtBrDuYqOBfN33BQ5ECxXJFWO5c9x/35C/kovuSk+3oFv2u7g lSI6eInUvJcMok43CfZlmkyXS/+MQA6pwT4KUsgToQbgwvztsPCdBmt/HmkatV5KVctn kkgbdAy/wceTZkXXT0rXiQMQYXWp6ZODY+ksk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=GWJEHf/5bKsljRruE9p/0nJFe+ikAUxd+EjpIT29JgmaX//FmUU5s/Mq235gqQu8TH cAB2jwGQvwV+Z6gqRUR3GkXT5rYqpNEYu+B7bikkrYHVR+n7x8AXiNteoIfM36n/mWRX qUmdo2lDHGTuYYVRTqHzTKCmYpE/dwfwM9flI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807071303q3c0d8ca7mb68c7bb994b3d0f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:03:20 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig In-Reply-To: <20080707094037.zz1ujydaso04w888@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <000501c8dfb0$5a2ebdf0$0e8c39d0$@com> <05ea01c8dfb1$ae694880$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20080707094037.zz1ujydaso04w888@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_S6wlB.A.UaD.KancIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:03:22 +0000 (UTC) On 7/7/08, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > The only "hold up" is that I like to notate my music and max/msp doesn't > have notation. If it would run as a VST plugin, then I could manage the > Notation on the Cubase side and the processing on the MAX/MSP side. > > -- Kevin Before vesion 5 Max would let you export patches as VST plug-ins to run inside any host application. The intention with Max is of course to get this option back in the new version and I, for one, is looking forward to this. So when they manage to get back on track with that you may "run it as a VST plug-in". The type of hybrid between random generative music and improvisational musicianship that Kris talks about is also my dream. I've been tasting at a bit in the nineties when using a sampler plus midi guitar, but since there were not truely random based software available to me back then I still keep its fulfillment on my top list ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 7 20:41:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F18BD3BE8B; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAGEackhMQggZ/2dsb2JhbACDXzOHQ6VIAw Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" Subject: 07.16.08 > The PiNG presents SPACED on the DANFORTH w Geek Weekend, The Devil In The Design & General Chaos Visuals Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:41:45 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000301c8e071$df132800$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:41:51 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hi Everyone! Join us for some Geeks, the Devil and Chaos as we=20 host an eastern PiNG at The Renaissance Caf=E9 which is another=20 fine pro art space suited to the PiNG. There's room to socialize with=20 comfy chairs, a couch or two and a small patio out front. Plus there's=20 more couches up near the performance space for those who want to=20 focus in on the good friends we've invited to perform. In between=20 are tables and chairs along the bar which has great beer on tap=20 plus gourmet coffee and munchies available.=20 For those who haven't been yet, The Renaissance Caf=E9 is located=20 on the north side of the Danforth just a bit west of the Woodbine=20 Subway station on the Bloor/Danforth line. So head east young PiNGers as we're really looking forward=20 to seeing y'all again! ~ Cheers, Scott M2 and Jamie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG WEDNESDAY JULY 16th . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents SPACED ON THE DANFORTH with THE DEVIL IN THE DESIGN,=20 GEEK WEEKEND and GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ The Renaissance Caf=E9 . 1938 Danforth Avenue . north side,=20 2 blocks west of the Woodbine Subway . Map and directions=20 at: http://www.renaissancecafe.ca/map.htm =20 PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set is at 8:30 . $6 / PayWhatYouCan =20 =20 . For July 16th, Phil Ogison (The Devil In The Design) is presenting=20 four works entitled, 'Behind the seen'. The concept for this project=20 is an exploration of situationist views of landscape and structures in a historical framework. These pre-recorded/live element works are comprised of found sound collected around the Toronto Harborfront and archival spoken word samples, digitally manipulated and arranged with the addition of live electric guitar and keyboard synthesizer. For this occasion, ten limited edition studio copies of 'Behind the seen' will be available for the price of $5.00 each. The event will be recorded live in both audio and digital video format, to be made available at a later date online. This project is part of an forthcoming co-release with Hotel Nuclear / AZT (Ronconfreddo I, Berlin D, and Noyon Fr), a project of Martha Zapparoli (penelope x) and Giancarlo Bianchini (AZT) part of the "Arto-Zat" group, a cultural association concerned with promotions of artistic research and is composed of artists, musicians, video makers. http://www.myspace.com/ogison=20 http://www.myspace.com/hotelnuclear http://www.myspace.com/thedevilinthedesign . Geek Weekend is back for another summer sizzler. Robert Hoare (Berlin) and Steven Sauv=E9 (Hamilton) look forward to bringing you all manner of sultry sounds, drenched in absurdity, and dripping with irony. No computers have been harmed in the making of this music. ADVISORY: Random processes are used throughout the performance. http://www.karmafarm.ca http://www.robhoare.de . Eye candy for the evening will be courtesy of our friendly=20 neighbourhood light painters - General Chaos Visuals.=20 http://www.generalchaosvisuals.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Stay tuned - more PiNGs events are coming soon including=20 THE AMBiENT PiNG's NiNTH ANNiVERSARY - details soon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ping things is proud to present its third net label release! "Aqua" by Andrew Duke is a long form abstract electronic=20 piece exploring themes of loss and ritual. Fluid and emotive,=20 "Aqua" is another fine work from one of Canada's premier=20 electronic artists. "Aqua" by Andrew Duke is available for free download as=20 a 72Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality=20 256kbps mp3 format along with front cover and tray card=20 art suitable for printing in both jpg and psd formats.=20 The music on this release is copyright Andrew Duke 2008=20 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's=20 express permission. If you like the work of Andrew Duke,=20 check out his website at http://www.andrew-duke.com New releases will be added to the ping things site on the=20 22nd of each month. In the coming months you'll be able=20 to download exclusive work from Nunc Stans, Ortiz, NAW,=20 Building Castles out of Matchsticks, Remora and more. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Check out the AMBiENT PiNG RADiO podcast. Currently=20 posted are the ALMOST LiVE SERiES sets by MWVM, NAW,=20 Panoramaroid, Remora, Resonant Drift, Salvagesound,=20 and URM. Also posted are the ping things net label releases=20 by Spatial Correlation ("Les Landes"), Phil Ogison=20 ("The Perfect City") and Andrew Duke ("Aqua"). http://www.ambientpingradio.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, chillout, trip hop, dream pop, downtempo, space, darkwave, drone and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com Tune in to AMBiENT PING RADiO at: http://www.ambientpingradio.com ViSiT ping things for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 03:58:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C8D83BE94; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 03:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:58:42 UTC Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:54:45 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Transcendence Duo + 1 Yeah! + Doctor T 07.12.08, Lowell MA To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 03:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be performing with some very exciting and=20 fiery jazz players at 119 Gallery in Lowell on=20 July 12. I'm delighted and privileged to have the=20 chance to work with them -- I've heard them live=20 and on CD and enjoy their work greatly. Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian=20 restaurant next door to the gallery. Jazz: Transcendence Duo + 1 Yeah! (+ Doctor T on Video-:) Saturday july 12 8pm, $10 Transcendence Duo + 1 Yeah! Ras Moshe - sax & flute Dave Ross - guitar =46orbes Graham, - trumpet & laptop Ras Moshe was born on the 22nd of March 1968 in=20 Brooklyn NY. Studied music in school as a child=20 (elementary to high school) and with his father=20 (Ted "Jacob" Burnett II) who plays alto=20 saxophone, flute and bass clarinet. His=20 grandfather-Ted Burnett I(The last name "Barnett"=20 was used for professional reasons) played tenor=20 sax in the bands of Earl Bostic, Lucky Millender,=20 Jimmy Mundy, Don Redman, Ella Fitzgerald and many=20 others after coming to America from Jamaica. The=20 drummer Shadow Wilson was a close friend. Later=20 on in life, for a variety of reasons, Ted I began=20 to only play music within the church context. He=20 wrote some gospel songs that became known. Ras'=20 other grandparents didn't play music but grew up=20 with many jazz and calypso artists in Harlem.=20 Ras(Ted III) renamed himself in 1987. Although=20 trained in earlier forms of "jazz", Ras'=20 preferred mode of improvisation is in the later=20 or "free" developments of the music, without=20 relying on generic terms. He has been writing and=20 reciting poetry since childhood as well. At the=20 age of 16 he started playing alto in roots reggae=20 bands...in the early 90's he got tired of only=20 playing "jazz" at home and "here and there".....=20 He picked up the tenor and decided to pay homage=20 to Coltrane, Albert Ayler, John Gilmore and his=20 other favorites on a permanent basis. Without=20 copying verbatim (see influences list!). He=20 definitely believes in the positive effect the=20 new music will have on social and personal=20 change. The music is a spiritual and social=20 force. It is the opposite of close=20 mindedness...and its certainly connected to=20 things much higher than war. The music is indeed=20 the voice of the people. Ras on myspace Dave Ross started playing guitar at age 10, and=20 was self-taught until he attended Berklee College=20 of Music in Boston Mass. where he studied with=20 Jon Damien and Bret Willmott. In 1993 he won the=20 Boston music award for his work with the funk=20 band =93Chuck=94. In the years to follow Dave became=20 busy with a myriad of projects in styles=20 including Jazz, Punk, World beat, Gospel, Ju Ju,=20 Hardcore, and Free improvisation as a writer,=20 producer and player. In 2005 Dave moved to New=20 York City to engage the thriving free music scene=20 there. He has played and/or recorded with, Henry=20 Grimes, Roy Campbell Jr., Sabir Mateen, Charles=20 Downs, Joe Rigby, Albey Balgochian, Dennis=20 Warren, P-Funk horns, Chuck Brown and the Soul=20 Searchers, Lawrence Cook, Jackson Krall, Daniel=20 Carter, Saco Yasuma, Lou Grassi, Federico Ughi,=20 Yuko Fugiyama, Andre Martinez, Walden Wimberly,=20 Jane Grenier B, Matt Lavell, Francois Grillot,=20 Baron Brown, Hillard Green, Mike T A Thompson,=20 Ken Filiano, Steve Swell, Ras Moshe, Shayna=20 Dulberger, Flip Barnes, Fay Victor, Rob Egan,=20 Hillary Nobel, and Jon Dirac among others. Dave=92s website =46orbes Graham is a composer, trumpet player, and=20 electronic musician currently based in the Boston=20 area. He has appeared on over 30 recordings,=20 including studio appearances on such labels as=20 Metal Blade, Tzadik, and Troubleman. Forbes has=20 performed and recorded with a very diverse group=20 of artists, including Erase Errata, Rakalam Bob=20 Moses, Steve Lantner, Daughters, Raqib Hassan,=20 Jim Hobbs, The One Am Radio, and Luther Gray. His=20 composition =93Variations on the Fibonacci=20 Sequence=94 was commissioned by the Greenwall=20 =46oundation and world premiered at the 2007=20 =46estival of New Trumpet. Forbes has also written=20 music for the new music/rock ensemble Normal=20 Love. He has appeared at numerous festivals=20 including High Zero and The Wire=92s Adventures in=20 Modern Music. His work incorporates many genres=20 including drum n=92 bass, jazz, contemporary=20 classical, noise, and hip-hop. Forbes on myspace 119 Gallery, 119 Chelmsford St, Lowell www.119gallery.org -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 06:06:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7282E3BE91; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 06:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <487303DC.5010302@musicbymark.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:06:20 -0500 From: Mark Young User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vocal & Guitar looping - How can I switch vocal on & off? References: <20080707154954.425743BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20080707154954.425743BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 06:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Thanks guys; here's my set up --I've always used simple PA setups:

Guitars: Yamaha FG345 II; Martin J40
Mic:         SM58

PA#1:     BOSE PAS / L1 (direct hi & lo imped. connections to Ch. 1 & 2, respectively)

PA#2:    
Mixer:     Mackie 1402VLZ
AMP:      Mackie M1200   or  Crown C2000 (think that's the model)
Spkrs:   Bose 802

DigiTech JamMan w/Fs1 foot switch.

Thanks for any detailed guidance as to pedals/gear (model#s please) & configurations.
I've never used or needed an A/B or A/B/C switch, or volume pedal, so I need you to explain/be specific.

Thanks again,

Mark

From:
kalimbaman7@yahoo.com


Hi Mark, a simple yet effective technique that I use for my JamMan is to run a mic cable directly to a guitar volume pedal (provided it's a 1/4 inch output) and then out from the volume pedal using a 1/4 to male XLR conversion cable into the mic input on your JamMan. Once youv'e done this, you can record the vocal loop at a volume similar to a live background singer and then sing live with the volume pedal at full output. Looking at your volume pedal as a mixer/foot control might open up other creative uses as well....... "KalimbaMan"


From:
"Buzap Buzap" <buzap@gmx.net>
Hi Mark
I'm doing similar things here. What I do is sometimes split the vocal signal and then route it through pedals. You might need something like a mixer to balance guit/vox levels.
If you want a minimalistic setup, you can use a simple  impedance converter on the mic.
I also like the Nobels A/B pedals for their flexibility (have volume controls on both A,B).

If you can specifcy your complete setup (mixer, PA/amp etc.) I can give you more specific suggestions.
best regards
Buzap
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 06:12:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B47533BE97; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 06:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48730531.3030205@musicbymark.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:12:01 -0500 From: Mark Young User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vocal & Guitar looping - How can I switch vocal on & off? References: <20080707200322.DF1B63BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20080707200322.DF1B63BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 06:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Oh, I forgot to mention:

If necessary w/ the Bose L1/PAS... I have a cheap Behrenger $85 mixer (think it's 4 pre-amped channels +2 unpowered channels). I could use this if needed (be specific please as to how it should be connected, and w/ TRS vs. speaker patch cords, etc.).


Mark

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 08:25:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C7EC3BE8F; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:25:23 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <487303DC.5010302@musicbymark.net> Message-ID: <20080708082523.23970@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080707154954.425743BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> <487303DC.5010302@musicbymark.net> Subject: Re: Vocal & Guitar looping - How can I switch vocal on & off? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19YJzchLmFYu/dhUyQxks3MdSxjvqhglPI179ea2/ WHNRaIvajU1JxYA176luCR/slSpxDCx35RhA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: QRJGeShhbUk7K58oyWknE8BsZ2hlN0rA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark ok, let's be really specific here ;-) Here is the routing using a Mixer with two Aux Sends (Pre/Post switchable) and an A/B switch that can also be used to send _one_ Input to _two_ Outputs. Guitar > Mixer IN1 Mixer IN1 > Aux Send 1 (PreFader) - set Mixer IN1 volume = 0 Aux Send 1 > Digitech JamMan Digitech JamMan > Aux Return (or Mixer input channel) Aux Return > PA (possibly balanced) SM58 Mic > Mixer IN2 Mixer IN2 > Aux Send 2 (PreFader) - set Mixer IN2 volume = 0 Aux Send 2 > A/B Pedal A/B Pedal > Mixer IN3 (A) A/B Pedal > Mixer IN4 (B) Mixer IN3 > PA Mixer IN4 > Aux Send 1 (PreFader) - set Mixer IN4 volume =0 (Aux Send 1 > JamMan ...) So, this setup should really do the trick for you: - In pedal position A, you hear vocals and guitar only runs through the JamMan - In pedal position B, both your vocals and guitar are routed through the JamMan It might look a bit complex in the beginning, but I think this is the most elegant solution. Have fun! :-) Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 08:34:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F1FF3BE97; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:34:10 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <20080708083410.284010@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18vFvoUydkvPgHYdN/OZH7NUSjbmlooz/ZwCVzYBH CIsUQXKXgu1REn1yYvtu9+UeCQB/b0c43bzQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 7VMae7wgeWUkftt9km5njdojL0tsZk0N Resent-Message-ID: <-oOSmD.A.kYE.DaycIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:34:12 +0000 (UTC) HI Kris really, liked it :-) Personally, I'd like to be more in charge of what my music does - yet, very interesting results. :-) best regards Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 08:40:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D8723BE98; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 464 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:40:05 UTC Message-ID: <44045.208.97.187.133.1215505939.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 01:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Chapman Stick setup? From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:40:05 +0000 (UTC) I recently bought a ten string chapman stick. It's an ironwood model originally manufactured in 1985. It's in great shape but needs new strings and undoubtably some setup. Has anyone ever setup their own stick or know of a qualified person I could touch base with? I understand stick.com is the place for the strings and I talked to them about shipping it out for the full monty. They were nice but of course he's quite busy. Before I go that route that I was wondering if any stick players here have experience changing strings and setting up the stick themselves. Any suggestions or hints? I live in Phila Pa and know of one great guitar guy who's willing to take a look at it but if there is an experienced stick player nearby I'd love to talk to you to get more info and such. The impression I got from talking to the contact at stick.com is these are incredibly delicate instruments. She said point blank *any* stick, even one new - let alone one 20+ years old, will need additional work to truss rod and/or frets in addition to the string change and setup. Coming from a bass/guitar/cello and other back ground this is news to me. I know the stick is quite unusual but are they that fragile? Any/all help appreciated! ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 09:04:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 051773BE97; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=AhqPFpZfZWaqsom7Q56fmod6+Phkyzf6vklv59O/NP0=; b=KNxUtxhsDqv/CRJgzTadjGAZzlpuNytpzuG7S40nZIhYE4W4T5jzxsxMM8igU3eElk yx+Xrcxg6iC1lCHrbWVkfodq9Nn4OljWmaOuTwWYu2wCGwBfFQ6wjyOjVAE2qloEJ0e1 yfgTj968pdrBXmQGPbMB7HDxDUlkgNrA4wgm8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WnwYXXBdWf4VrfdIBe6RJ/iQt5/XV+TNWCMqAdhuELxizOpluCwvrjW/J45oafoQ4U 7yOY/mhlDk2epSq0jvkO4CMIe4v7LGBVVQJ9u25l7YmPnh0xmBeyyfOn6tOqe3fFkXLG MoTUFryesUOS/4j3mADun/GDT44ovC+lvQLRY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807080204q467a8529n8dc2909e76e2a61f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:04:40 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807071303q3c0d8ca7mb68c7bb994b3d0f2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <05e101c8dfad$4f9d1510$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <000501c8dfb0$5a2ebdf0$0e8c39d0$@com> <05ea01c8dfb1$ae694880$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20080707094037.zz1ujydaso04w888@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <66f9cc1e0807071303q3c0d8ca7mb68c7bb994b3d0f2@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Kevin, This morning it just hit me that I forgot to mention in my post that you can use Plogue Bidule as a plug-in - both as VST and AU - in any host application. You never revealed what exactly you need Max/MSP for, but most things one would use it for is almost possible with Bidule. Whatever Max-like patch you have built in Bidule you can hit the "Save" button and save the complete session as a patch that can later be opened from inside the Bidule (AU and VST, Window and OS X) plug-in inside any AU or VST host application. This morning I'm working on a Bidule plug-in session that will let me run Augustus Looper inside Logic and next in the pipe-line is to move over some of my Mobius stuff from Windows to Logic on the Mac (huge Bidule patches migrated as plug-ins). It's a wonderful new world! ;-)) Per On 7/7/08, Per Boysen wrote: > On 7/7/08, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > > > The only "hold up" is that I like to notate my music and max/msp doesn't > > have notation. If it would run as a VST plugin, then I could manage the > > Notation on the Cubase side and the processing on the MAX/MSP side. > > > > -- Kevin > > Before vesion 5 Max would let you export patches as VST plug-ins to > run inside any host application. The intention with Max is of course > to get this option back in the new version and I, for one, is looking > forward to this. So when they manage to get back on track with that > you may "run it as a VST plug-in". > > The type of hybrid between random generative music and improvisational > musicianship that Kris talks about is also my dream. I've been tasting > at a bit in the nineties when using a sampler plus midi guitar, but > since there were not truely random based software available to me back > then I still keep its fulfillment on my top list ;-) > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 09:16:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6554C3BE8C; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 589 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:16:13 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Sender: carpet8@mac.com Message-id: <001401c8e0d9$e4ba5180$180b3c4a@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <44045.208.97.187.133.1215505939.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Subject: Re: Chapman Stick setup? Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:06:08 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Well if it's an Ironwood stick then it sure as hell isn't delicate. It's given the name Ironwood for a reason. Those things are built like tanks. The setup can be a different matter. It wouldn't be a bad idea to get Stick Enterprises to do the setup, if it's truly needed. t ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:32 AM Subject: Chapman Stick setup? >I recently bought a ten string chapman stick. It's an ironwood model > originally manufactured in 1985. It's in great shape but needs new strings > and undoubtably some setup. > > Has anyone ever setup their own stick or know of a qualified person I > could touch base with? > > I understand stick.com is the place for the strings and I talked to them > about shipping it out for the full monty. They were nice but of course > he's quite busy. Before I go that route that I was wondering if any stick > players here have experience changing strings and setting up the stick > themselves. Any suggestions or hints? > > I live in Phila Pa and know of one great guitar guy who's willing to take > a look at it but if there is an experienced stick player nearby I'd love > to talk to you to get more info and such. > > The impression I got from talking to the contact at stick.com is these are > incredibly delicate instruments. She said point blank *any* stick, even > one new - let alone one 20+ years old, will need additional work to truss > rod and/or frets in addition to the string change and setup. Coming from a > bass/guitar/cello and other back ground this is news to me. I know the > stick is quite unusual but are they that fragile? > > Any/all help appreciated! > > > ------------------------------------------------ > Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: > Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com > > From finance@financier.org Tue Jul 8 10:12:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 20894 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:12:12 UTC Received: from mail.kedgley.school.nz (static-ip-203-89-170-225.watchdog.net.nz [203.89.170.225]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C23A3BE8C; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kedgley.school.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B850824E9D7; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:23:35 +1200 (NZST) Received: from mail.kedgley.school.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16882-09; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:23:35 +1200 (NZST) Received: from mail.kedgley.school.nz (g4.kedgley.school.nz [10.14.160.2]) by mail.kedgley.school.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5523624E9A3; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:23:05 +1200 (NZST) Received: from 41.205.161.198 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jubilee) by mail.kedgley.school.nz with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:23:05 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <1500.41.205.161.198.1215483785.squirrel@mail.kedgley.school.nz> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:23:05 +1200 (NZST) Subject: From: "FINANCE AND LEASING ASSOCIATION" Reply-To: lancelot.financialinvestment@gmail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients: ; X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at kedgley.school.nz FINANCE AND LEASING ASSOCIATION H7BWP Sandholm,Bridge End Rd Suffolk, IP28 8LQ Red Lodge Bury St,Edmuds ENGLAND. 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Regards Mr. Lancelot Mass Finance And Leasing Association E-mail: lancelot.financialinvestment@gmail.com TEL: +44-704-572-0881 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 14:29:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F2003BE93; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=yMxynKva/tOmpnf2cJL6hEkai48OjgAj0A52x5+25ghIOUqvvYLBmON9oc0xX7RQUKFzkuSFOkyCMYubWv9zESjjDGueSIQozdil1WEn260v+/8ZgKj2M3qXslGAa7HzvERuLUvkWPA/lngERTXXelbvNRTaKQ214mp7vC0Gl8M=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:29:21 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Reply-To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Chapman Stick setup? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <44045.208.97.187.133.1215505939.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1581001095-1215527361=:65920" Message-ID: <612602.65920.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:29:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-1581001095-1215527361=:65920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't own a stick, but you could also try http://www.stickist.com/, which= has forums.=A0=20 =A0 Also, www.talkbass.com probably has more than a few stick players lurking i= n their forums... =A0 =A0 Ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Tue, 7/8/08, legion@helpwantedproductions.com wrote: From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com Subject: Chapman Stick setup? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 1:32 AM I recently bought a ten string chapman stick. It's an ironwood model originally manufactured in 1985. It's in great shape but needs new strings and undoubtably some setup. Has anyone ever setup their own stick or know of a qualified person I could touch base with? I understand stick.com is the place for the strings and I talked to them about shipping it out for the full monty. They were nice but of course he's quite busy. Before I go that route that I was wondering if any stick players here have experience changing strings and setting up the stick themselves. Any suggestions or hints? I live in Phila Pa and know of one great guitar guy who's willing to take a look at it but if there is an experienced stick player nearby I'd love to talk to you to get more info and such. The impression I got from talking to the contact at stick.com is these are incredibly delicate instruments. She said point blank *any* stick, even one new - let alone one 20+ years old, will need additional work to truss rod and/or frets in addition to the string change and setup. Coming from a bass/guitar/cello and other back ground this is news to me. I know the stick is quite unusual but are they that fragile? Any/all help appreciated! ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com=0A=0A=0A --0-1581001095-1215527361=:65920 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I don't own a stick, but you could also try http://www.stickist.com/, which has forums. 

 

Also, www.talkbass.com probably has more than a few stick players lurking in their forums...

 

 

Ted.

Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Tue, 7/8/08, legion@helpwantedproductions.com <legion@helpwantedproductions.com> wrote:

From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com <legion@helpwantedproductions.com>
Subject: Chapman Stick setup?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 1:32 AM

I recently bought a ten string chapman stick. It's an ironwood model
originally manufactured in 1985. It's in great shape but needs new strings
and undoubtably some setup.

Has anyone ever setup their own stick or know of a qualified person I
could touch base with?

I understand stick.com is the place for the strings and I talked to them
about shipping it out for the full monty. They were nice but of course
he's quite busy. Before I go that route that I was wondering if any stick
players here have experience changing strings and setting up the stick
themselves. Any suggestions or hints?

I live in Phila Pa and know of one great guitar guy who's willing to take
a look at it but if there is an experienced stick player nearby I'd love
to talk to you to get more info and such.

The impression I got from talking to the contact at stick.com is these are
incredibly delicate instruments. She said point blank *any* stick, even
one new - let alone one 20+ years old, will need additional work to truss
rod and/or frets in addition to the string change and setup. Coming from a
bass/guitar/cello and other back ground this is news to me. I know the
stick is quite unusual but are they that fragile?

Any/all help appreciated!


   ------------------------------------------------
      Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art:
        Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com

--0-1581001095-1215527361=:65920-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 15:05:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 654613BE8F; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=57pVhoo0yieMVHmvhr7bE7TGTuwJKFvJ33EvdWiGd1k=; b=JDsg+z16GhKtKyHkI/eI2IxSjWxCwvmjRVTL1KhWBNFMZc1/C3UfhDAWRh1nEBDzMj elYOZhvGWO1V0IZsvbMvYX+K4J7UH4s2fKJDMM0CYi8WmQ06MzayVkfQichuKaGSRYh3 6GBWmKoASCQKEup74/H9zVx8EuMCvhOMeD0JI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=kHJ++FCJ1v9zrB7Dx3Cipge7Erwcg/tOoa5lfuFzHAWHPuyqS4/1ydXlysoAIDHV9H BL2VRCY9hJBtR8GMea69Zc6APUH9enaGxuQ5yqecMLVAS8nwIXFCmC9UKINnCYnt98u8 l8B+KSteZs4E6+YhDGGJYcIVdy0EBTqV8ArhQ= Message-ID: <2fb9e4730807080805m47568cd8tfa82a279b8f21300@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:05:48 -0400 From: "Clint Allen" To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Chapman Stick setup? Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <612602.65920.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33779_25539443.1215529548550" References: <44045.208.97.187.133.1215505939.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> <612602.65920.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:05:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_33779_25539443.1215529548550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I would highly recommend sending the Stick to Emmett and crew at Stick Enterprises and having them do the adjustments. It might take a bit longer but well worth the wait. One other option might be to visit Greg Howard in Charlottesville which isn't terribly far from you. Greg, by appointment, can make some adjustments. You would want to contact him ahead of time of course and see what his schedule is. I know he is focusing less on playing out right now but he may still be scheduling appointments. http://www.greghoward.com Hope this helps... Clint Allen On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:29 AM, ditch wrestler wrote: > I don't own a stick, but you could also try http://www.stickist.com/, > which has forums. > > > > Also, www.talkbass.com probably has more than a few stick players lurking > in their forums... > > > > > > Ted. > > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog > > --- On *Tue, 7/8/08, legion@helpwantedproductions.com < > legion@helpwantedproductions.com>* wrote: > > From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com > Subject: Chapman Stick setup? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 1:32 AM > > > I recently bought a ten string chapman stick. It's an ironwood model > originally manufactured in 1985. It's in great shape but needs new strings > and undoubtably some setup. > > Has anyone ever setup their own stick or know of a qualified person I > could touch base with? > > I understand stick.com is the place for the strings and I talked to them > about shipping it out for the full monty. They were nice but of course > he's quite busy. Before I go that route that I was wondering if any stick > players here have experience changing strings and setting up the stick > themselves. Any suggestions or hints? > > I live in Phila Pa and know of one great guitar guy who's willing to take > a look at it but if there is an experienced stick player nearby I'd love > to talk to you to get more info and such. > > The impression I got from talking to the contact at stick.com is these are > incredibly delicate instruments. She said point blank *any* stick, even > one new - let alone one 20+ years old, will need additional work to truss > rod and/or frets in addition to the string change and setup. Coming from a > bass/guitar/cello and other back ground this is news to me. I know the > stick is quite unusual but are they that fragile? > > Any/all help appreciated! > > > ------------------------------------------------ > Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: > Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com > > > -- Clint E. Allen * Technology Consultant * Sound Engineering ------=_Part_33779_25539443.1215529548550 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I would highly recommend sending the Stick to Emmett and crew at Stick Enterprises and having them do the adjustments. It might take a bit longer but well worth the wait. 
 
One other option might be to visit Greg Howard in Charlottesville which isn't terribly far from you. Greg, by appointment, can make some adjustments. You would want to contact him ahead of time of course and see what his schedule is. I know he is focusing less on playing out right now but he may still be scheduling appointments.
 
Hope this helps...
 
Clint Allen

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:29 AM, ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don't own a stick, but you could also try http://www.stickist.com/, which has forums. 

 

Also, www.talkbass.com probably has more than a few stick players lurking in their forums...

 

 

Ted.

Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Tue, 7/8/08, legion@helpwantedproductions.com <legion@helpwantedproductions.com> wrote:

From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com <legion@helpwantedproductions.com>
Subject: Chapman Stick setup?

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 1:32 AM 


I recently bought a ten string chapman stick. It's an ironwood model
originally manufactured in 1985. It's in great shape but needs new strings
and undoubtably some setup.

Has anyone ever setup their own stick or know of a qualified person I
could touch base with?

I understand stick.com is the place for the strings and I talked to them
about shipping it out for the full monty. They were nice but of course
he's quite busy. Before I go that route that I was wondering if any stick
players here have experience changing strings and setting up the stick
themselves. Any suggestions or hints?

I live in Phila Pa and know of one great guitar guy who's willing to take
a look at it but if there is an experienced stick player nearby I'd love
to talk to you to get more info and such.

The impression I got from talking to the contact at stick.com is these are
incredibly delicate instruments. She said point blank *any* stick, even
one new - let alone one 20+ years old, will need additional work to truss
rod and/or frets in addition to the string change and setup. Coming from a
bass/guitar/cello and other back ground this is news to me. I know the
stick is quite unusual but are they that fragile?

Any/all help appreciated!


   ------------------------------------------------
      Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art:
        Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com




--
Clint E. Allen
* Technology Consultant
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:11:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <44045.208.97.187.133.1215505939.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acjg1lTGDnYxF3KbT9+BQWQpvNtJEAANfggg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:18:06 +0000 (UTC) The instruments themselves aren't that fragile but the set-up is pretty precise (to get optimum playability). I'd have a pro do it especially since it sounds overdue for some tweaking. In the meantime check http://www.greghoward.com/profile/stick/setup/ There's some useful stuff there. m.c. 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Regards, Mrs.Roseline Donald (Online Coordinator for POWERBALL ONLINE GAMES) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 18:19:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 894DA3BE97; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=67ClSpZfskgYHzen3vnhExIDIILH9p0LLJ2xDwIvVW0=; b=h0f+6qEb0vOVzjRHUzm7F8KQZiZCFuXiYe33YCAIILNRkFAqH/mUE43ReYtDsEUQmH jLXIrwZpIAY1NQWvdlbSP1CoydvV1nRVS4gubDhOnHpGh9EDXqZEhNVxUKsKEJqxlUWA c6zcPUoFfmlcAw9buB7KfTF3J7tx3mUTb+Dis= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=TOXX9BrPz17Nkc530pCjzHuUvxTE/FJ4nIrIVzh0TmshvxZWrXH60YpZdyjbN+ciKx jc7l/szvqIw+KgHgWIb+S8RGGgXm3WEGYzqX7NzFqNCFZfP2UyCSEC4/cWuygotV9/Nw mXuOwneVO2v0rXDTt71Seu4oYxJdjn4HjLCRs= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:19:37 -0600 From: "Adam Hart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Novelty MIDI controllers :) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15604_31476910.1215541177895" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:19:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15604_31476910.1215541177895 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Has anyone here ever created, used, or seen used a novelty midi controller?? For example: using an old Atari joystic, or a Nintendo power pad, or even just some integration of an object from pop culture to * modulate* sound (not create) in some way? It would it be fun to bust out a joystick during a live performance... MORE IMPORTANTLY it would be amazing to have an audience member be able to modulate your performance in some way... just imagine the possibilities, the numerous parameters of the numerious midi controlled devices! wow! ------=_Part_15604_31476910.1215541177895 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Has anyone here ever created, used, or seen used a novelty midi controller??  For example: using an old Atari joystic, or a Nintendo power pad, or even just some integration of an object from pop culture to modulate sound (not create) in some way?
 
It would it be fun to bust out a joystick during a live performance... MORE IMPORTANTLY it would be amazing to have an audience member be able to modulate your performance in some way... just imagine the possibilities, the numerous parameters of the numerious midi controlled devices!  wow!
 
 
 
------=_Part_15604_31476910.1215541177895-- From soulbiros1@unimail.mn Tue Jul 8 18:25:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.242]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893553BE8F for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 8so16897127agc.3 for ; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.191.10 with SMTP id o10mr10815604ybf.56.1215541492329; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.181.3 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5beaddd30807081124k2d327dd7n77e69f58656004d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:24:52 +0000 From: "soul biros" Subject: your Urgent AttentionIs Needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26060_13414730.1215541492331" To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=_Part_26060_13414730.1215541492331 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline *Your Urgent Attention Is Needed* ** ** ** ** ** ** ** * * From: Mr Soul Biros, Auditing And Accounting Section, Guaranty Trust Bank Plc. Abidjan- Cote d' Ivoire. Dear Friend, I am Mr.Soul Biros, the Gen. Supervisor Accounts/ Audit department, in Guaranty Trust Bank Plc. I do here by sending this mail to you concering Dr. Carter Hernandez Jr, who was a known philanthropists to many charitable causes in the Atlanta area, United States of America including hospitals and schools in. The eldest Hernandez was for years the chairman of Emory University's Department of Paediatrics and later served as interim dean of the medical school. And a personal friend Died and left behind his deposit in our bank the valued of USD $10.5Million Dollars.( Ten Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) under a cross suspense coded account. It happens that my relationship with Late Dr.Carter Hernandez Jr, started in year 1999 when I was a supervisor in Guaranty Trust Bank. We met in our social annual end of the year party during one of his visits to Cote d' Ivoire then I was introduced to him by my Bank Director where he opened this account some few weeks later making me the account officer to the account and he operated this account until his death. On the 21st of July 2003, Dr.Carter Hernandez Jr, and his wife and their two children were involved in a plan crash in Nairobi Kenya. All passengers of the plan unfortunately lost their lives. Since then I have made several enquiries to US Embassy to locate or know if there is any of Dr.Carter Hernandez, extended relatives to confide on but unfortunately this has proved unsuccessful. To prevent the bank from claiming this money as Government treasure, I decided to contact you through your email address with hope to discuss under a mutual business understanding to get this money out of this bank and have it transferred to your country through your safe account. I am contacting you to assist in moving this money left behind by Dr.Carter Hernandez Jr, before they will be confiscated as unclaimed bill since the bank has declared the account unserviceable and since his death nobody has come forward for the claims of the fund and I have been unsuccessful in locating the relatives. I therefore seek your consent to act and represent as the next of kin of the deceased, Late Dr.Carter Hernandez Jr, so that the proceeds of this account valued at US $10.5 Million Dollars can be paid to your account abroad. l have decided to offer 25% of the total money for your kind gesture and 5% for expenses procure, as I will need to travel with my entire family down to your country after the successful transfer of the fund. All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us see this transaction through, of which you must represent as foreigner with an account abroad to enable us claim this money from my bank and whereby you will not let the bank know of my involvement with you as the brain behind the claims of the fund. If you are interested, your contact information are very necessary, your full name home addresses country of origin private telephone number. I guarantee that this transaction will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law. Please get in touch with me as l look forward to hear from you soon. Best regards, Mr, Soul Biros ------=_Part_26060_13414730.1215541492331 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline



Your Urgent Attention Is Needed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 
From: Mr Soul Biros,
Auditing And Accounting Secti= on,
Guara= nty Trust Bank Plc.
Abidjan- Cote d' Ivoire.


Dear Friend,


I am Mr.So= ul Biros, the Gen. Supervisor Accounts/ Audit department, in Guaranty Trust Bank Plc. I do here by sending this mail to you concering Dr. Carter Hernandez = Jr, who was a known philanthropists to many charitable causes in the Atlant= a area, United States of America= including hospitals and schools in. The eldest Hernandez was for ye= ars the chairman of Emory Univer= sity's Department of Paediatrics and later served as interim dea= n of the medical school. And a personal friend Died and left behind his dep= osit in our bank the valued of USD $10.5Million Dollars.( Ten Million Five = Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) under a cross suspense coded accoun= t.



It happens that my relationship with Late Dr.Carter Hernandez J= r, started in year 1999 when I was a supervisor in Guaranty Trust Bank. We met i= n our social annual end of the year party during one of his visits to Cote = d' Ivoire then I was introduced to him by my Bank Director where he ope= ned this account some few weeks later making me the account officer to the = account and he operated this account until his death. On the 21st of July 2= 003, Dr.Carter Hernandez Jr, and his wife and their two children were invol= ved in a plan crash in Nairobi Kenya.


All passengers of the plan unfortunately lost their lives. Since th= en I have made several enquiries to US Embassy to locate or know if there i= s any of  Dr.Carter Hernandez, extended relatives to confide on but un= fortunately this has proved unsuccessful.


To prevent the bank from claiming this money as Government treasure= , I decided to contact you through your email address with hope to discuss = under a mutual business understanding to get this money out of this bank an= d have it transferred to your country through your safe account. I am conta= cting you to assist in moving this money left behind by Dr.Carter Hernandez= Jr, before they will be confiscated as unclaimed bill since the bank has d= eclared the account unserviceable and since his death nobody has come forwa= rd for the claims of the fund and I have been unsuccessful in locating the = relatives.


I therefore seek your consent to act and represent as the next of k= in of the deceased, Late Dr.Carter Hernandez Jr, so that the proceeds of th= is account valued at US $10.5 Million Dollars can be paid to your account a= broad. l have decided to offer 25% of the total money for your kind gesture= and 5% for expenses procure, as I will need to travel with my entire famil= y down to your country after the successful transfer of the fund.



All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us see this = transaction through, of which you must represent as foreigner with an accou= nt abroad to enable us claim this money from my bank and whereby you will n= ot let the bank know of my involvement with you as the brain behind the cla= ims of the fund. If you are interested, your contact information are very n= ecessary, your full name home addresses country of origin private telephone= number. I guarantee that this transaction will be executed under a legitim= ate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law.



Please get in touch with me as l look forward to hear from you = soon.




Best regards,


Mr, Soul Biros
------=_Part_26060_13414730.1215541492331-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 18:59:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFC473BE98; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4873B8FD.5030800@gordius.be> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:59:09 +0200 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: info@gordius.be User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Novelty MIDI controllers :) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Adam Hart wrote:
using an old Atari joystic, or a Nintendo power pad, or even just some integration of an object from pop culture to modulate sound (not create) in some way?
I guess many of you have already been watching this brilliant geek : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Qc5_lV4HI

MORE IMPORTANTLY it would be amazing to have an audience member be able to modulate your performance in some way... just imagine the possibilities, the numerous parameters of the numerious midi controlled devices!  wow!
"Amazing Rolo" uses the WiiMote accelerometers to turn his movements into sound modulations. But the other popular WiiMote hack is to use its built in camera for head tracking. So you could as well stick some reflective tape on the head of a few audience members on the front row, so that their dancing modulates your performance - they won't be dancing to your music, your music will be created by their dancing!  :-)


From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 19:21:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C96903BE95; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=dOPfyBidKSklt8x6tZ+oQzLeqpuDQqC/PWv7VTmDzSg=; b=Mc2PsvYLwGKhs6S5aSuEZyY/QgO21kZM4SHenY2LmhLXE9XhR4AUVXJ/+qZ8MMn62S C2/ADQsOy3ublWQp6eDT+h00aB9whtf1OWRogTiISTq8j52NaRS8ti0qNdZFuLtMv27g kzOJYLtbn7DhhIzRv/6uJz4BLcjf8FWfqGKIc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FJk5cW7vXazqT1ZrN39YPhvOnECA21NXbJqYDxqqmUAIPgtcKFWmI9KQGVPGSMKzeE rw3WVJft4Q2Il+i7pXEyhmReeD+o5FX3hl6Sisy/GuRB2ukrTev/fqad94MxFv4FAVtn 4sWDd10OzXte4r650Rqwp0e623LmvaI1mRZgA= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:21:27 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Novelty MIDI controllers :) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16248_18536884.1215544887448" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:21:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16248_18536884.1215544887448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline You can get Hubi's MIDI Joystick program (the people who brought you Hubi's MIDI Loopback) that uses a regular joystick to send MIDI messages. http://members.magnet.at/hubwin/midi.html I have no idea if it works with XP or Vista though. There's a VST called MIJOY that does something similar. and there's this.. http://vellocet.com/software/VMIDIJoY.html On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Adam Hart wrote: > Has anyone here ever created, used, or seen used a novelty midi > controller?? For example: using an old Atari joystic, or a Nintendo power > pad, or even just some integration of an object from pop culture to * > modulate* sound (not create) in some way? > > It would it be fun to bust out a joystick during a live performance... MORE > IMPORTANTLY it would be amazing to have an audience member be able to > modulate your performance in some way... just imagine the possibilities, the > numerous parameters of the numerious midi controlled devices! wow! > > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_16248_18536884.1215544887448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline You can get Hubi's MIDI Joystick program (the people who brought you Hubi's MIDI Loopback) that uses a regular joystick to send MIDI messages. 

http://members.magnet.at/hubwin/midi.html

I have no idea if it works with XP or Vista though. 

There's a VST called MIJOY that does something similar. 

and there's this..

http://vellocet.com/software/VMIDIJoY.html


On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Adam Hart <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone here ever created, used, or seen used a novelty midi controller??  For example: using an old Atari joystic, or a Nintendo power pad, or even just some integration of an object from pop culture to modulate sound (not create) in some way?
 
It would it be fun to bust out a joystick during a live performance... MORE IMPORTANTLY it would be amazing to have an audience member be able to modulate your performance in some way... just imagine the possibilities, the numerous parameters of the numerious midi controlled devices!  wow!
 
 
 



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Tony ------=_Part_16248_18536884.1215544887448-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 8 19:53:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C45793BE94; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 11754 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:53:10 UTC Message-Id: <9B32096C-2DEE-4EF7-B68C-C87D2514521B@kenaxis.com> From: Stefan Smulovitz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1004630843 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:37:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:53:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-1004630843 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You should check out Keith Hamel's Notability Pro. (http://debussy.music.ubc.ca/NoteAbility/index.html ) Its a notation program that includes score tracking and full integration with Max/MSP. The score will do its best to listen and follow along and you can place various Max events in the score to control a Max/MSP patch to do your processing. It is something I have been meaning to delve more into but you will need to contact Keith directly via his website if you have any more questions. I have only seen Keith and a few others use it here in Vancouver and not actually mucked about with it myself. Stefan > The only "hold up" is that I like to notate my music and max/msp > doesn't > have notation. If it would run as a VST plugin, then I could manage > the > Notation on the Cubase side and the processing on the MAX/MSP side. > > -- Kevin --Apple-Mail-2-1004630843 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You should check out Keith = Hamel's Notability Pro. (http://debuss= y.music.ubc.ca/NoteAbility/index.html) Its a notation program = that includes score tracking and full integration with Max/MSP. The = score will do its best to listen and follow along and you can place = various Max events in the score to control a Max/MSP patch to do your = processing. It is something I have been meaning to delve more into but = you will need to contact Keith directly via his website if you have any = more questions. I have only seen Keith and a few others use it here in = Vancouver and not actually mucked about with it = myself.

Stefan

The only "hold up" is that I like to notate = my music and max/msp doesn't
have notation.  If it would run as a VST plugin, then = I could manage the
Notation on = the Cubase side and the processing on the MAX/MSP = side.

-- = Kevin
= --Apple-Mail-2-1004630843-- From finance@financier.org Wed Jul 9 06:25:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail.kedgley.school.nz (static-ip-203-89-170-225.watchdog.net.nz [203.89.170.225]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0AF3BE8F; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 06:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kedgley.school.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E5D26C40A; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:21:52 +1200 (NZST) Received: from mail.kedgley.school.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15218-01; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:21:24 +1200 (NZST) Received: from mail.kedgley.school.nz (g4.kedgley.school.nz [10.14.160.2]) by mail.kedgley.school.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F5E26C3D2; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:21:17 +1200 (NZST) Received: from 41.205.161.50 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jubilee) by mail.kedgley.school.nz with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:21:18 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <1550.41.205.161.50.1215552078.squirrel@mail.kedgley.school.nz> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:21:18 +1200 (NZST) Subject: From: "FINANCE AND LEASING ASSOCIATION" Reply-To: lancelot.financialinvestment@gmail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients: ; X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at kedgley.school.nz FINANCE AND LEASING ASSOCIATION H7BWP Sandholm,Bridge End Rd Suffolk, IP28 8LQ Red Lodge Bury St,Edmuds ENGLAND. 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Regards Mr. Lancelot Mass Finance And Leasing Association E-mail: lancelot.financialinvestment@gmail.com TEL: +44-704-572-0881 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 09:20:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0454B3BE90; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: cg00 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:20:18 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200807090920.m699KIGr013141@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" Subject: Re: OT: Novelty MIDI controllers :) X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 193.158.99.226 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="b_01_d759b4d25262f2ea193cf96ad8ba27b4" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:20:20 +0000 (UTC) --b_01_d759b4d25262f2ea193cf96ad8ba27b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii">= Message

The electronics guy of www.sanagimusic.com uses a playstation control= ler with Ableton Live.

There's a MIDI driver for the P5 Dataglove, and it's actually great fun,= because this controller gives you a total of eleven degrees of freedom...a= nd it looks really Eighties SciFi.

Kraftwerk used to pass around some kind of wireless pocket calculator in= live shows during the "Ich bin der Musikant mit dem Taschenrechner in der = Hand" piece so that audience members could play solos. (This, of course, fa= lls into the "create sound" field you aren't interested in).

            =      Rainer

----- original Nachricht --------
Betreff: OT: Novelty MIDI controllers :)
Gesendet: Di= , 08. Jul 2008
Von: Adam Hart

=

Has anyone here ever cre= ated, used, or seen used a novelty midi controller??  For example: usi= ng an old Atari joystic, or a Nintendo power pad, or even just some integra= tion of an object from pop culture to modulate= sound (not create) in some way?
 
It would it be fun to bu= st out a joystick during a live performance... MORE IMPORTANTLY it would be= amazing to have an audience member be able to modulate your performance in= some way... just imagine the possibilities, the numerous parameters of the= numerious midi controlled devices!  wow!
 
 
 


--- or= iginal Nachricht Ende ----
--b_01_d759b4d25262f2ea193cf96ad8ba27b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The electronics guy of www.sanagimusic.com uses a playstation controller wi= th Ableton Live.=0AThere's a MIDI driver for the P5 Dataglove, and it's act= ually great fun, because this controller gives you a total of eleven degree= s of freedom...and it looks really Eighties SciFi.=0AKraftwerk used to pass= around some kind of wireless pocket calculator in live shows during the "I= ch bin der Musikant mit dem Taschenrechner in der Hand" piece so that audie= nce members could play solos. (This, of course, falls into the "create soun= d" field you aren't interested in).=0A Rainer=0A=0A----- or= iginal Nachricht --------=0A=0ABetreff: OT: Novelty MIDI controllers :)=0AG= esendet: Di, 08. Jul 2008=0AVon: Adam Hart=0A=0A=0AHas anyone here ever cre= ated, used, or seen used a novelty midi controller?? For example: using an= old Atari joystic, or a Nintendo power pad, or even just some integration = of an object from pop culture to modulate sound (not create) in some way? I= t would it be fun to bust out a joystick during a live performance... MORE = IMPORTANTLY it would be amazing to have an audience member be able to modul= ate your performance in some way... just imagine the possibilities, the num= erous parameters of the numerious midi controlled devices! wow! =0A=0A--= - original Nachricht Ende ----=0A --b_01_d759b4d25262f2ea193cf96ad8ba27b4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 09:24:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 703103BE94; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=StUCTnAAASMgT5OUct0QtxlaPnt/wPbqJpdzqboO4k4=; b=F7y/KoMgWz3kO4A5Gmm6p4tPWWR/qjk0PSflAriQocQGs+j7o8NFyHxfTvKR86u0ps HRMvsFsaoNDFFYPc+uIdHMu48KF2V9bc1gUvmK+z21j1KxUAzgza/4QMoIde+MFY9tgM kVOpWYqkVJDdo0d/eblpESV43OdigJ0qqxnpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=MM+hwgNfJzv3zlCMtNzjBlZ8Zm9CG8gijD/+Ca/UfABZ+Lhl1iqMfWwdBXHwDnInd2 COuQsQoeVDH3hULAPr5fX7yb6d2WR2lGzzewmwoXES4IoRuBjnm10vCTD/KCrvWWmP8D HbA32Kz9HmD45/usVC02DaXWbdrz5QWVXvWJY= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 02:24:56 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Novelty MIDI controllers :) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1739_19098705.1215595496556" References: Resent-Message-ID: <48UYMB.A.5K.pPIdIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:24:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1739_19098705.1215595496556 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline When I see "Novelty MIDI Controller" as a subject, I expect a discussion of whoopee cushions being wired up to transmit CC messages.... On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Adam Hart wrote: > Has anyone here ever created, used, or seen used a novelty midi > controller?? > ------=_Part_1739_19098705.1215595496556 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline When I see "Novelty MIDI Controller" as a subject, I expect a discussion of whoopee cushions being wired up to transmit CC messages....

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Adam Hart <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone here ever created, used, or seen used a novelty midi controller?? 

------=_Part_1739_19098705.1215595496556-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 09:59:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D0193BE98; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: cg00 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:59:52 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200807090959.m699xqS9028221@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 193.158.99.226 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Taking into account that what I heard from you is not that much song-orient= ed, I'd suggest a Boss DD20. But it doesn't have a storage option. Same goe= s for the EH SMM w/Hazari. Rainer ----- original Nachricht -------- If you were choosing between JamMan and the Boss 20XL what are your opinion= s? I'm considering JM due to USB and storage. Anything I ought to know th= at I may not in that this will be my "first" real looping tool? I have a D= igitech delay that has a 4 second loop I use a fair amount and have some ex= perience now with Mobius but am desiring for live a dedicated pedal. Thank= s in advance. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 11:23:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E422A3BE98; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:23:21 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:23:23 +0000 (UTC) > Rainer wrote: > Taking into account that what I heard from you is not that much > song-oriented, I'd suggest a Boss DD20. But it doesn't have a > storage option. Same goes for the EH SMM w/Hazari. Hi Jim, I can recommend the DD-20; it was my first looper pedal and I still like = it. But it's a 23 sec delay pedal, XL20 and Jamman are phrase samplers..= .so the concept differs. What do you want to do with it? Sjaak > > Rainer > > ----- original Nachricht -------- > If you were choosing between JamMan and the Boss 20XL what are your opi= nions? I'm considering JM due to USB and storage. Anything I ought to k= now that I may not in that this will be my "first" real looping tool? I = have a Digitech delay that has a 4 second loop I use a fair amount and ha= ve some experience now with Mobius but am desiring for live a dedicated p= edal. Thanks in advance. > > > --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 12:57:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED40E3BE94; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em00 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:57:43 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200807091257.m69CvhfC011435@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: First audio clips form my "Weird Music for Weird People" World Tour... X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 193.158.99.226 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <6NvEPC.A.BkC.JXLdIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:57:45 +0000 (UTC) ...are available here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm, documenting my performances at BEMF3 on Friday and Sunday. Also available are clips from my Saturday performance with guests Honda Mot= =3D oko and Krispen Hartung, and a wealth of excellent performance shots (thank= =3D s to Thee Art Of and Corkscrew Photography). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 13:23:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FCD53BE9E; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=51KrMHumatWVXbfwzdeAhxMbYHd1E9H9339F0TbLVYI=; b=jfsPvb1DZqOON49KCE3Xxqy/IjyWHB5AEkTghrQCAnH3191PtgHcQBGtWh0A+24W47 LrUj0v01l50PYfJTeDMv15IP+ijQJsSYHM9puLPU400oN/NxCoukmfiTDjD5iZNR0gst VJxT0pVl2+yUOw2g1rXhWbkAOoIsUQ4RpSYZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=cJmRN1nDsNypYMI9YBbCfZrUKGx3ccS9jUGqjk8SG0Bm74Pn3SRTgppH8lLcbSr/rD yokrZMuXxPU6/Wsh6EdbzaZ4ZpgYZB59x9jJiS2dIb9RqvwWRx908saN3lZUfDgzl83m JEApvdum776ZMu1zFKc1+uAa4kZ3uquOv0kms= Message-ID: <101191640807090623s6e021b8fu7ee078588af4318a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:23:04 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Now OT: Yahoogroups (was Re: modifying the FCB1010) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7F32BACC-5355-46EF-A882-038157F5FF35@zoekeating.com> <64b81a780806272317id7d29c8t1e00af7ff15bb795@mail.gmail.com> <64b81a780806272329q5b39ef9m712ca6cd3f7c2a30@mail.gmail.com> <1B9FCBD4-E106-4B7D-887C-122AB7D4E0DE@zoekeating.com> <64b81a780806282242w5da649a6jb7fadec3c4f896e@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a5e27dd92b6abdd7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:23:06 +0000 (UTC) oh yeah, it's all the fault of the greedy investors vs. the virtuous founders, who now have 4 Porsches apiece and $10 million dollar houses in Los Altos. my misunderstanding may be flawed (my bushism of the the day), but - if you go public, you are legally saying that money is the only thing that matters. if you don't behave in this way, you can be sued for violating your fiduciary responsibility. it's not an ideal system, but the people who cashed in have little right to pretend to virtue beyond that they earn by being good stewards of the bucks. there can be much disagreement over which path will lead there, of course. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 13:25:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 259683BE93; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=21gkREfp6KC+vUJ3chv8TWFfISCkSFtozsHzANGRUCw=; b=KGvGuMmoecF6gFxuXiuEfcR2+ikNpgh1U766IPJcN5rjnQjgP6QPuVa/WtKIe4LA6m HrdFHgjO+mvem27MXU1SN7dV6j9S1iQMeBhZ+SB4uWx8mOzuoEk7dLEQ/xtYiChsaN2x qJr4jAer8bIbAP5r+7x2FDr8vVuSDzRMU4VvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=CdZglGGlJVuX8z9JyQImL5lGYPNpIZOPWYkV3xvk0GRUlxlOJCA8PObJeB9Hd/ZWhE tF4YefYTMIXu744pIcjbqVHWgcPwPH5GIXIwm0w5TMqncFGFSS0pJ+kL7fAiAdSF0oeb iPt/X+AXD1nOcVQXTwcUJefmP5ZIh0XXIZ/Qg= Message-ID: <101191640807090625p498900c8x43015bd8c05092f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:25:07 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Yahoogroups and The Wealth of Nations... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7F32BACC-5355-46EF-A882-038157F5FF35@zoekeating.com> <64b81a780806272317id7d29c8t1e00af7ff15bb795@mail.gmail.com> <64b81a780806272329q5b39ef9m712ca6cd3f7c2a30@mail.gmail.com> <1B9FCBD4-E106-4B7D-887C-122AB7D4E0DE@zoekeating.com> <64b81a780806282242w5da649a6jb7fadec3c4f896e@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4f32ad92336ae1d2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:25:34 +0000 (UTC) so, mech, what's your new job? From sgt_anthony_orton@hotmail.com Wed Jul 9 13:27:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3357 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:27:41 UTC Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr (smtp2f.orange.fr [80.12.242.151]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CC03BE8A; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr (mwinf2f26 [10.232.18.126]) by mwinf2f10.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4955F1C6A8A0; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:31:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from User (unknown [83.229.90.45]) by mwinf2f26.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 95FBB70000A3; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:29:06 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080709122907614.95FBB70000A3@mwinf2f26.orange.fr Reply-To: From: "SGT ANTHONY ORTON" Subject: FROM UNITED STATE SOLDIER!!! Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:31:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20080709122906.95FBB70000A3@mwinf2f26.orange.fr> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Attention: How is everything going, I hope great? Though i have not considered this medium to be the best manner to have approached you on this issue being that the internet has been greatly abused over the recent years and is very unsecured for informations of vital importance. I have decided to take the chance seeing that no other means could have been faster and more efficient than the e-mail. I write to you irrespective of the fact you do not know me, but please do consider this letter as a request from a brother in dire need of assistance. My name is Anthony Orton (Sgt) an American soldier,I am serving in the military of the 1st Armored Division here in Iraq. As you know we are being attacked by insurgents everyday and car bombs, it will come worst now Saddam Hussein was executed. During one of our rescue Mission we came across a safe that contains the total sum of $21,000,000 (Twenty One Million Us Dollars)that belongs to the revolutionaries, which I believe they use in buying weapons and ammunitions, and it was agreed by all party present that the money will be shared amongst us. You can go to this web link to read about events that took place here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2988455.stm Out of the total fund my share was $8,000,000 (Eight Million Us Dollars). I am seeking your assistance to evacuate my share of the money, which is $8,000,000 out of here to you, in as much as you can assure me that my own share will be safe in your care until I complete my service here. This is no stolen money and there are no dangers involved,as I have made arrangements with a UN representative based in Asia who promised to deliver the fund to any of my choosing destination. I shall be compensating you with US$2,500,000 (Two Million, Five Hundred Thousand Dollars) on final conclusion of this project, while the rest shall be for me for my investment purposes. One passionate appeal I will make to you is not to discuss this matter with a third party, should you have reasons to reject this offer, please destroy this e-mail as any leakage of this information will be too bad for me. I do not know for how long we will remain here, and I have survived two suicide bomb attacks, which prompted me to reach out for help because I will be migrating to you to invest and start a new life not as a soldier anymore. Please if this proposal is acceptable by you, kindly send me an email signifying your interest including your most confidential telephone numbers for quick communication also your home address where the fund would be delivered. As soon as I receive your e-mail with the information,I will furnish you with full details on when and how the fund shall be delivered to you by the diplomat and he will make a contact with you before any move. Waiting for your urgent reply. Best Regards, Sgt. Anthony Orton From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 14:34:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B58F3BE90; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=8/3B0d8VxaEWMItwHYJhij9vVGgV8M7VN+AIlrWxi6M=; b=uQlde4MIxor1aMeCECjt59no6j+N/kVAFJzTuhfr8Fzu0ebn2j2C3LI5YCRVv7wuCH IM2mdDSkFejksMCrBgta8BRSCaAU4katOzln7tSt+AImAE1my/hkUmB5C1I6IQKC5UIN OWKPiw2ibjbWGoaP1XWAxE3UsLwRKa2A8HDBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=SGcyZPKzfRG6Tt2J9JUWrz7iwsRA9CssHw0TpWhVuhIRUTRBfuctXMTexxULDctkZM HLtZZ7RVT2sdBDNwTaa8Fu0dAE+8dvWw4SMQD4sR4p3m8zaFMCmEmlD0/fn/XVn/lpk1 yKi08aZG2cUVEXltZFSiL+nqJfNxN/+ds+Sh0= Message-ID: <4759e5740807090734h23411e1ew9bed172b489f9ed4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:34:01 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com, "Jeff Kaiser" Subject: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13672_16135489.1215614041525" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:34:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13672_16135489.1215614041525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey all, I'm throwing this out there for our max mavens... My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I need it for... TOMORROW... damn. so here is my predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shifter which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful. is there any one of you out there who has a max patch which will harmonize with two additional pitches above or below the root pitch which sounds great which you'd be willing to send me? I have to play single notes and have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real time. thanks in advance for any support you might give. and best to all. Todd -- In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_13672_16135489.1215614041525 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey all,

I'm throwing this out there for our max mavens... 

My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I need it for... TOMORROW... 

damn.

so here is my predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shifter which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful.  

is there any one of you out there who has a max patch which will harmonize with two additional pitches above or below the root pitch which sounds great which you'd be willing to send me?  I have to play single notes and have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real time. 

thanks in advance for any support you might give. 

and best to all.

Todd





--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
------=_Part_13672_16135489.1215614041525-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 15:43:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B13D53BE91; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=d2MONll4VF3f5UP1JfwWKdNtcxAiaUybWJwl7x5v5FU=; b=C2MkrCK9+ZP9t+qqEYwvBBVB2F804gIGXhdG5Ma1nrPJwBfOc2voRwFtbggwsNUMbT YXHR1rXcJPzlYjgpfj5OZg+jH2OZHKFNoD38rbaEyFwd2TyetvzUpACGDR3jECn566mG ZRDU65MR3ehgU46evER9UdLgBTvE/KzAa5/pM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=dD0oYcgBSlSOuk/Pl+RRnGWntQfMWNM40axFulVG1lP13owuf5bXdmQyDOrhnXc5gY uZXIWqNP/xfMPidPCia/Hp0VTC92WQwDH4RTiGp85Nt7rV1tWAp9NeNPyv1XmPVuIyKI IfGg110OyWiuupWYR14QXLCOEnN1xjOV2tOUo= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:43:10 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6153_11527747.1215618190460" References: Resent-Message-ID: <2r39pB.A.7MD.QyNdIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:43:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6153_11527747.1215618190460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Rainer/Saajak thanks so much. I really didn't provide enough info so I can see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought about. My attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping technique/interest plus in a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either need it for live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home sessions hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage though not imperative is attractive. What I was more hoping to know was any negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type things. The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono out which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a second out akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not true stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out. I may be mistaken but don't think I've seen that on the J or B. I had thought about the MMwH but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said. The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation and possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in their ruggedness. That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment. I always get a rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting various pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"! I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping that you might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have sent those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so though pertinent to this community. I've come from a non-looping or very little efx manipulation/enhancement world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in the last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in Chinapainting though the interest in the enhancing goes way back. I am very interested in utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both solo and with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape loops. I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just improvising on a sequence. I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but though clearly many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is still out on them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius live. Too I don't have any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys presently. Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do appreciate all the input and any future thoughts. Best Jim On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Sjaak wrote: > > Rainer wrote: > > Taking into account that what I heard from you is not that much > > song-oriented, I'd suggest a Boss DD20. But it doesn't have a > > storage option. Same goes for the EH SMM w/Hazari. > > Hi Jim, > I can recommend the DD-20; it was my first looper pedal and I still like > it. But it's a 23 sec delay pedal, XL20 and Jamman are phrase samplers...so > the concept differs. What do you want to do with it? > > Sjaak > > > > > Rainer > > > > ----- original Nachricht -------- > > If you were choosing between JamMan and the Boss 20XL what are your > opinions? I'm considering JM due to USB and storage. Anything I ought to > know that I may not in that this will be my "first" real looping tool? I > have a Digitech delay that has a 4 second loop I use a fair amount and have > some experience now with Mobius but am desiring for live a dedicated pedal. > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_6153_11527747.1215618190460 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Rainer/Saajak thanks so much.  I really didn'= ;t provide enough info so I can see the encouragement for the GigaDelay ped= al which I've thought about.  My attraction to the Jamman is to br= oaden my looping technique/interest plus in a sense have a portable recorde= r to capture things when I either need it for live or don't want to pul= l out some other equip such as for home sessions hence the Jamman's att= raction for that plus for looping the storage though not imperative is attr= active.  What I was more hoping to know was any negatives people had r= un into or technical glitches "design" type things.  The onl= y limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono out which in = an instrument input situation I can understand though a second out akin to = the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not true stere= o I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess double= s the noise as well) but gives the parallel out.  I may be mistaken bu= t don't think I've seen that on the J or B.  I had thought abo= ut the MMwH but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said.
 
The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation = and possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in their= ruggedness.  That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment. = I always get a rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are bla= sting various pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"!
 
I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping tha= t you might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have= sent those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's = so though pertinent to this community.
 
I've come from a non-looping or very little efx manipulation/enhan= cement world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've don= e in the last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in C= hinapainting though the interest in the enhancing goes way back.  I am= very interested in utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my= work both solo and with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the = way of his tape loops.  I'm very interested in layer creation as o= pposed to just improvising on a sequence.  I have dabbled with Mobius = as many of you know but though clearly many of you are quite successful wit= h live laptops my jury is still out on them in a live setting though I'= ve come close to using Mobius live.  Too I don't have any external= controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys presently.
 
Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do appreci= ate all the input and any future thoughts.
 
Best
 
Jim

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
> Rainer wrote:
> Taking into account that w= hat I heard from you is not that much
> song-oriented, I'd sugges= t a Boss DD20. But it doesn't have a
> storage option. Same goes = for the EH SMM w/Hazari.

Hi Jim,
I can recommend the DD-20; it was my first looper peda= l and I still like it.  But it's a 23 sec delay pedal, XL20 and Ja= mman are phrase samplers...so the concept differs. What do you want to do w= ith it?

Sjaak

>
>           &= nbsp;   Rainer
>
> ----- original Nachricht --------
&g= t; If you were choosing between JamMan and the Boss 20XL what are your opin= ions?  I'm considering JM due to USB and storage.  Anything I= ought to know that I may not in that this will be my "first" rea= l looping tool?  I have a Digitech delay that has a 4 second loop I us= e a fair amount and have some experience now with Mobius but am desiring fo= r live a dedicated pedal.  Thanks in advance.
>
>
>

---
Sjaak
<= a href=3D"http://www.livelooping.be/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.liveloop= ing.be/
http:= //euroloopfest.com/
http://= www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw




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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapa= inting on My Space -
http://www.myspac= e.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 oth= er creative souls - http://www.= woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://= www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by M= el Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.me= lbay.com
------=_Part_6153_11527747.1215618190460-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 16:45:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D39453BE93; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01f501c8e1e3$37f2bd60$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4759e5740807090734h23411e1ew9bed172b489f9ed4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:45:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F2_01C8E1B0.ECC92CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:45:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01F2_01C8E1B0.ECC92CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just talked as well), but I'll send = you a few of my pitch patches, including one that stacks 6 pitch = shifters, and a few patches that sound very Evantidish. Kris Hey all,=20 I'm throwing this out there for our max mavens...=20 My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I need it for... = TOMORROW...=20 damn. so here is my predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a = pitch shifter which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful. =20 is there any one of you out there who has a max patch which will = harmonize with two additional pitches above or below the root pitch = which sounds great which you'd be willing to send me? I have to play = single notes and have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real = time.=20 thanks in advance for any support you might give.=20 and best to all. Todd --=20 In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on = his work, Task Force The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_NextPart_000_01F2_01C8E1B0.ECC92CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we = just talked as=20 well), but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches, including one that = stacks 6=20 pitch shifters, and a few patches that sound very = Evantidish.
 
Kris
 

Hey=20 all,

I'm throwing this out there for our max = mavens... 

My=20 Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I need it for...=20 TOMORROW... 

damn.

so here is my predicament... = Last time I=20 tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shifter which sounded good, I was = entirely=20 unsuccessful.  

is there any one of you out there who has = a max=20 patch which will harmonize with two additional pitches above or below = the root=20 pitch which sounds great which you'd be willing to send me?  I = have to=20 play single notes and have it track well enough to sound like a chord = in real=20 time. 

thanks in advance for any support you might=20 give. 

and best to all.

Todd




--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with = artist Steven=20 Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can Institute = follows=20 in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_NextPart_000_01F2_01C8E1B0.ECC92CC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 19:20:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 504A13BE93; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BhNnb6raCGftpz8LQ71yjFun+HnV+fSyMDxTFVlBQZk=; b=PmEtKjx+WAqK/RI03wxrJuZ9vJ7965F5AOMbWhd0gbBWXF88t6HZIt8b/xZzZTE8MA L/c8iVgWyO7l5tYm03tO8mSunwPCRZQHGlncPm8Vb67OgWA83d8ukRGDOazuLaQ44Jvp mxy/oVUuPE5g8bHPJ773Pu5hfdH9n6ZfEFrk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Ks8V1oKiRKDLW9sOwSZrjFCf89tTWL//ZrIzIddk5Zq+NTRskFHAVL59FwFY5zQEsf y7U917+SfNCNYG2x41AdmCam7YIh4li9HAIWdNSl6UWBghiSgaXpvH5Dbt56q6TcB3D9 WpXJ2B7Vbo04NRemEIljTTkZ/B7mqbVlVZMPA= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:20:35 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Jim, The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes in sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next month, when you and Daryl visit Boston). As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely (though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback and 100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away ... downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you can kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but that's a tale for another day ... ) I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first DD-20 ... the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, I just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use ... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part. Best, Dennis On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin wrote: > > Rainer/Saajak thanks so much. I really didn't provide enough info so I can > see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought about. My > attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping technique/interest plus in > a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either need it for > live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home sessions > hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage though > not imperative is attractive. What I was more hoping to know was any > negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type things. > The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono out > which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a second out > akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not true > stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess > doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out. I may be mistaken > but don't think I've seen that on the J or B. I had thought about the MMwH > but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said. > > The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation and > possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in their > ruggedness. That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment. I always get a > rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting various > pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"! > > I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping that you > might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have sent > those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so though > pertinent to this community. > > I've come from a non-looping or very little efx manipulation/enhancement > world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in the > last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in Chinapainting > though the interest in the enhancing goes way back. I am very interested in > utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both solo and > with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape loops. > I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just improvising on a > sequence. I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but though clearly > many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is still out on > them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius live. Too I > don't have any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys > presently. > > Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do appreciate > all the input and any future thoughts. > > Best > > Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 19:23:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 476DF3BEA2; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=AYytNBGoscwn9WRB5/k2Tr0YdG32LuZNkZH2AX8QfQg=; b=OKglqCNuta/1LPRGnn+1Y0EU8mSVivf0Rk/l4zgxJanWZYF4qzbEhxYXGdSHt5h6TQ pWxqirL6sVQV6JzwsVmcpRP3PEEC+Rg+Gmw74P0V3yCf1TLQXkZTA1ATBIgP1g9UVYb1 dCffbd6O624cMbC2JA3SpOkIyodxZ6NbeoHBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=OccXoS7jxK0tB3KNMDLYJHTGVyvM7V2PdFevl68BiStKZf8NFX5F+QUnOBYHYRSL+7 IzjjO2u71BaPuudHKnRCUUnWeKk8eN1Y8OOe6kh5cTSa3C/1VC55TN5zJDgPlS4GvwkL bPcmxhmAsnu68RvS5LeNsRUE8226jqpAOISZI= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:23:44 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) In-Reply-To: <01f501c8e1e3$37f2bd60$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4759e5740807090734h23411e1ew9bed172b489f9ed4@mail.gmail.com> <01f501c8e1e3$37f2bd60$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Not laughing at Todd's predicament by any means, but MAN what I'd give for some patches that sounded "very Evantidish" ... or Eventidish, too. Sigh. Maybe one day ...anybody want to trade an Eclipse for a pair well-loved DD-20's (*GRIN, see earlier post today ... ) Best, Dennis On 7/9/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just talked as well), but I'll send you > a few of my pitch patches, including one that stacks 6 pitch shifters, and a > few patches that sound very Evantidish. > > Kris > > > > > Hey all, > > I'm throwing this out there for our max mavens... > > My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I need it for... TOMORROW... > > damn. > > so here is my predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch > shifter which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful. > > is there any one of you out there who has a max patch which will harmonize > with two additional pitches above or below the root pitch which sounds great > which you'd be willing to send me? I have to play single notes and have it > track well enough to sound like a chord in real time. > > thanks in advance for any support you might give. > > and best to all. > > Todd > > > > > > -- > In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his > work, Task Force > > The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. > > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 19:32:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D1D33BE99; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=SK6nZVlpoeidGXR3yHTTatCJxh5g3buazWvrfs+6HT0=; b=n45RKYGuzFZjRtrlnOdZv42kz8X4ZNQmPirP8osWosM3v6m+ZZPHKXL1DTkjj/Ibkr CneR6kxdWGtQnmEwgneyFBvLjrA/jF74gU3phkJJxEDSLDWqY1Ny6ozvq9nDQn3KxB+Y Of/6dMJ4vdGxt4BDQMGaGk9g8uXsf/dCDEwDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=wjtN7KECSIejEIqtitDuNfArZTKwP/WnbHYm0B6gQxs+jj3k4U7/DtQ+HX8HY43QEB i4vWlkPF8UEvPmh5040FujeDyXeA7UrmaeHev0W6Mu4zKSJw4LOxpPBinXwMFEN92PsB cbUeA6NBzL4CCIiDkxaeFH1rZbnYgwzm84z88= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:32:42 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9139_8102234.1215631962450" References: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:32:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9139_8102234.1215631962450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful. I have thought several times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I have but at the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the Digitech. The Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of saving work though realize I could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce it to computer or whatever to capture. Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston... Jim On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Jim, > > The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes in > sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their > sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next month, > when you and Daryl visit Boston). > > As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely > (though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the > Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback and > 100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away ... > downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you can > kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun > starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but that's a > tale for another day ... ) > > I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first DD-20 ... > the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage > capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, I > just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use > ... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part. > > Best, > > Dennis > > > On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin wrote: > > > > Rainer/Saajak thanks so much. I really didn't provide enough info so I > can > > see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought about. > My > > attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping technique/interest plus > in > > a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either need it > for > > live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home sessions > > hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage > though > > not imperative is attractive. What I was more hoping to know was any > > negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type things. > > The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono out > > which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a second > out > > akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not true > > stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess > > doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out. I may be mistaken > > but don't think I've seen that on the J or B. I had thought about the > MMwH > > but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said. > > > > The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation and > > possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in their > > ruggedness. That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment. I always get > a > > rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting various > > pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"! > > > > I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping that > you > > might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have > sent > > those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so > though > > pertinent to this community. > > > > I've come from a non-looping or very little efx manipulation/enhancement > > world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in the > > last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in Chinapainting > > though the interest in the enhancing goes way back. I am very interested > in > > utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both solo > and > > with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape loops. > > I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just improvising on a > > sequence. I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but though > clearly > > many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is still out > on > > them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius live. Too > I > > don't have any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys > > presently. > > > > Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do appreciate > > all the input and any future thoughts. > > > > Best > > > > Jim > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_9139_8102234.1215631962450 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful.  I have thought several times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I have but at the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the Digitech.  The Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of saving work though realize I could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce it to computer or whatever to capture.
 
Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston...
 
Jim

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim,

The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes in
sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their
sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next month,
when you and Daryl visit Boston).

As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely
(though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the
Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback and
100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away ...
downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you can
kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun
starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but that's a
tale for another day ... )

I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first DD-20 ...
the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage
capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, I
just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use
... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part.

Best,

Dennis


On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rainer/Saajak thanks so much.  I really didn't provide enough info so I can
> see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought about.  My
> attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping technique/interest plus in
> a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either need it for
> live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home sessions
> hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage though
> not imperative is attractive.  What I was more hoping to know was any
> negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type things.
> The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono out
> which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a second out
> akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not true
> stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess
> doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out.  I may be mistaken
> but don't think I've seen that on the J or B.  I had thought about the MMwH
> but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said.
>
> The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation and
> possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in their
> ruggedness.  That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment.  I always get a
> rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting various
> pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"!
>
> I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping that you
> might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have sent
> those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so though
> pertinent to this community.
>
> I've come from a non-looping or very little efx manipulation/enhancement
> world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in the
> last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in Chinapainting
> though the interest in the enhancing goes way back.  I am very interested in
> utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both solo and
> with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape loops.
> I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just improvising on a
> sequence.  I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but though clearly
> many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is still out on
> them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius live.  Too I
> don't have any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys
> presently.
>
> Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do appreciate
> all the input and any future thoughts.
>
> Best
>
> Jim




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_9139_8102234.1215631962450-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 20:25:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 798513BE95; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=bRcJ7uMTN8nMi5rJoLlr1t+63kk8Eq9pEOQPJBSL2uU=; b=ODGBGbMMN1JXdB23ByvdrMk0rZSHRoUOtyv4nKxliOe2FIUt5C3VrgZUGmYl6bQ3L/ zhSLosa/5uLd7tjFv3NkplWpRPR3Ln8hlmhnfAkLi0HOYTj6p6GNzLxnMbuNNMEhYg8l asu86j0V5UcYzIDcBtK+hAWDU99rtSrdU7EaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=CtQoS337puE5fZNqXt48PuE8sk22dNMBUiC+734rcizZyobYhRUhFzM7qXex/g7gqK S5W/RyiN9d/bY0o5sXLcjd8fV/oKS6R+bSl5DBEmGme881fGCTgs/XVgBHadeAiq7k1H JwfdBVnfmvOcfEYGC/qLmbLVhrtzBemdxNQo8= Message-ID: <4759e5740807091325g4483f3b3kad7aff889476eef9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:25:00 -0700 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) In-Reply-To: <01f501c8e1e3$37f2bd60$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4575_18657285.1215635100885" References: <4759e5740807090734h23411e1ew9bed172b489f9ed4@mail.gmail.com> <01f501c8e1e3$37f2bd60$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:25:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4575_18657285.1215635100885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks, Kris, anxiously await! please just make sure I can understand your ins and outs, being the non max expert that I am, as you know... ! t. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just talked as well), but I'll send > you a few of my pitch patches, including one that stacks 6 pitch shifters, > and a few patches that sound very Evantidish. > > Kris > > > Hey all, > > I'm throwing this out there for our max mavens... > > My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I need it for... > TOMORROW... > > damn. > > so here is my predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a > pitch shifter which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful. > > is there any one of you out there who has a max patch which will harmonize > with two additional pitches above or below the root pitch which sounds great > which you'd be willing to send me? I have to play single notes and have it > track well enough to sound like a chord in real time. > > thanks in advance for any support you might give. > > and best to all. > > Todd > > > > > > -- > In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his > work, Task Force > > The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. > > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > > -- In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_4575_18657285.1215635100885 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks, Kris, anxiously await! 

please just make sure I can understand your ins and outs, being the non max expert that I am, as you know... !

t.



On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just talked as well), but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches, including one that stacks 6 pitch shifters, and a few patches that sound very Evantidish.
 
Kris
 

Hey all,

I'm throwing this out there for our max mavens... 

My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I need it for... TOMORROW... 

damn.

so here is my predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shifter which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful.  

is there any one of you out there who has a max patch which will harmonize with two additional pitches above or below the root pitch which sounds great which you'd be willing to send me?  I have to play single notes and have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real time. 

thanks in advance for any support you might give. 

and best to all.

Todd





--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com



--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:49:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Having had such a good time when using NinJam I wondered if some of us on this list could have some fun with it on a kind of scheduled basis. Thoughts? SP Goodman http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman http://www.youtube.com/user/Enturbulata http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 22:55:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81B403BE99; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=09zVEalg5jIEPYBXVdCcQkk6zwd5oPvb6lw4ACdHAXo=; b=LNYfID/iZEWEUJCSdJHBz2uc7bkPuWMv2hlWf/ppjAECpx24IFSSt0A5qHbLkbCAid tYNOLvMRa4bC4gwZvqaliy6bwtjjmHGaMwErmIJlp2UpiwtI636+9O5k1Qmi5cA+aFdq v0Yzm55JZ/OV3Lo7UNWVFW/a1Enc9FudEzj7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=XFBRv9jw+YP/to/xjJrvw232zDrDhRt+By3t0BhigL6g794j88nlaaXuHhm1ferstS CsoV/NBSLKqMJYBrccq8qYJRCNO4QsqngOvIoiBd2ENK8/Bcx2Fn/LNLevuB1POPi/jl 4eT62ejA3Zk+YiL8kTqQmu/B0DNYr2oEM0MlE= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807091555g706ba7ddr7b24f4245b6b13a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:55:13 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ninjam Jam Anyone? In-Reply-To: <987C0B7CD6A741419A54812A0478EA0B@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10741_12803875.1215644113603" References: <353844.21469.bm@omp108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <987C0B7CD6A741419A54812A0478EA0B@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:55:15 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10741_12803875.1215644113603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Stephen I would be open... I've used it well over 2 years with Chinapainting plus Kyberfests plus other jams. Jim www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Having had such a good time when using NinJam I wondered if some of us on > this list could have some fun with it on a kind of scheduled basis. > > Thoughts? > > SP Goodman > http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman > http://www.youtube.com/user/Enturbulata > http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_10741_12803875.1215644113603 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Stephen I would be open...  I've used it well over 2 years with Chinapainting plus Kyberfests plus other jams.
 
Jim


 
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
Having had such a good time when using NinJam I wondered if some of us on this list could have some fun with it on a kind of scheduled basis.

Thoughts?

SP Goodman
http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman
http://www.youtube.com/user/Enturbulata
http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_10741_12803875.1215644113603-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 9 23:51:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32A013BE99; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:51:56 UTC Message-ID: <20080709184432.o22lznnwys8co8g8@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:44:32 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Jim Goodin Subject: Re: Ninjam Jam Anyone? References: <353844.21469.bm@omp108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <987C0B7CD6A741419A54812A0478EA0B@eluk1> <9e0440a60807091555g706ba7ddr7b24f4245b6b13a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60807091555g706ba7ddr7b24f4245b6b13a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:51:57 +0000 (UTC) btw, the address of my NINJAM server has changed to: ninjam.musetrap.com peace -cpr Quoting Jim Goodin : > Stephen I would be open... I've used it well over 2 years with > Chinapainting plus Kyberfests plus other jams. > > Jim > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Stephen Goodman > wrote: > >> Having had such a good time when using NinJam I wondered if some of us on >> this list could have some fun with it on a kind of scheduled basis. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> SP Goodman >> http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman >> http://www.youtube.com/user/Enturbulata >> http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 >> >> > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitar= s > - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay > Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 02:39:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 453E53BE94; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=W7I4bzzLaPupNXj0tzc5IanHmrOGnpnZCD+MzLxOG/U=; b=sNCGOECEEYKVkhnxzsSwZ2grbzvzdTBJoT3EiyjMii9VfIYd2yPGDITRdszP5Cj0oa QHmOdkYV86wqpQXnjyoqPSyLNbheZqEIQtdnYeYpBvk3DWqcK3YFT8Ac3pz92jJCVxrA JkBfGVrzWsUaswvmQAtrjB+W76OJR+toSodmI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=ECe2aNzs4lU2GifsNHmxWW5xKArEGD5ZQy3SJKmp5fmxVtnzE2mrS7P3hMGe1t/f5w B703BrAuU29ThtLBgscQ2q+KNhdwEL4+dSn27de4xZmd7KDXrOlgDhtbwHCbshJCZijx +CZ7G+5XPOh0mQVBIazYGFeXN8nUXLdyn2X8I= From: "Tony K" To: References: <353844.21469.bm@omp108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <987C0B7CD6A741419A54812A0478EA0B@eluk1> In-Reply-To: <987C0B7CD6A741419A54812A0478EA0B@eluk1> Subject: RE: Ninjam Jam Anyone? Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:39:06 -0400 Message-ID: <004a01c8e236$201a3940$604eabc0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcjiFhr8XmiP3gpVSCC/TlLFcNHyHgAH9/LQ Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:39:09 +0000 (UTC) YES! I have to reinstall as I've moved and rebuilt my pc... I'm usually online after 10pm Eastern Standard Time (in the US) Tony -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:49 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Ninjam Jam Anyone? Having had such a good time when using NinJam I wondered if some of us on this list could have some fun with it on a kind of scheduled basis. Thoughts? SP Goodman http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman http://www.youtube.com/user/Enturbulata http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.136 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1543 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:32 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 08:14:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B106C3BE91; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=0JxIr6tg0auNKZS0N6km8dmGJekjlhxbLRjXUqVE3hc=; b=fs1lfeo4Fx72J8YMEMRN+2bKwD3zcCeKzwGkWvbNIt3L4gts2/zfelCuwcXbEVhPmd 8GpcdkeN2liM0HSjiTmuymMZps/QBexkZanvYGFkAQa3W7kG1A8HrdK8NdflD8FTFXqc n/p1pG5+UsZJJeOxImgYE8fLfYe/I0PpaFoTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=aGfkNG2YFTbJdum3ndMlpqCJ1aFpGjeXBLFtW2eUayXJTAoXu17Ul7bzLG+FpZMpOq bQElovEGvKJIAy591Y0CafvOhAdV1XkzJD9XVRGonlqAAIwZLUwm9d2Eit6xGCOWwuCg paR1cfrtkKZI9ySNdJYQO9bWF39ZyDuiuj3Ok= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:14:12 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ninjam Jam Anyone? In-Reply-To: <987C0B7CD6A741419A54812A0478EA0B@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <353844.21469.bm@omp108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <987C0B7CD6A741419A54812A0478EA0B@eluk1> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e30c9f9b677384a2 Resent-Message-ID: <-eG37B.A.rFC.VTcdIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Sounds good. A while back we created this google calendar in an attempt to coordinate such jams: http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=0cas4g7igp0o8fg0aa0er14pgc%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/London You're all welcome to use it (though I may need to enable people to add events, I forget - if so, just mail me). Also a reminder that I developed a Ninjam Audio Unit plug-in, and could do with some help finishing it off: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ninjamplugin.html cheers, os. 2008/7/9 Stephen Goodman : > Having had such a good time when using NinJam I wondered if some of us on > this list could have some fun with it on a kind of scheduled basis. > > Thoughts? > > SP Goodman > http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman > http://www.youtube.com/user/Enturbulata > http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 10:41:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32F853BE8E; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:42:01 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <4875E779.4090103@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:41:39 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. 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Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 13:03:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35AF73BE95; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1215695035; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=kLcejE/AgZSaz/0msUhUwOEUaJM=; b=phOpfJ55nxGMojCqGG8A+NdHbHYvNLTxE05dnMS2ubbmvfz6ybtopf09MLSKoT/n PS1QXzZ4jPb5EM30LDqWrb+aQlj2y3gjDBQ/a5yxmGz97cBSPTzZs6AXct2jFlDQ; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=66GQ-j6TMGcA:10 a=jRH9K6SCtW0A:10 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=DPgOdzIHAAAA:8 a=KCVmX8HyAAAA:8 a=s9ThSRKNAAAA:8 a=xAEii7aeAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=Yd9oopdz8j_7jxl36hgA:9 a=CRB129NhS6E5PrV0QwcA:7 a=CSguhrBPLmUy_umVYFgi2y7x_X0A:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=d6zvuXva3CGcsxCcnfIA:9 a=b-u7mjsVt33s7rDKIx0A:7 a=bKBHJvP8h7Wva2cQZ2Ng22MH9zoA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:03:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C8E26B.E0CA1FE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:03:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C8E26B.E0CA1FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that I could use the Jamman if only you didn't have to stop it = and save before recording the next loop. This makes it difficult to improvise. The Jammer seems to be set up for = pre making songs or phrases to play along with. Lack of feedback is = another major stopper for me.=20 I love my EH 2880, although you can only do one long (up to 30 min = stereo) loop per 1 gig card. Feedback, reverse, half speed and 4 tracks = make it very fun to use. Combined with a dd 20 and a dl4 is even = better,heh. peace ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful. I have thought = several times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I = have but at the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the = Digitech. The Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of saving work = though realize I could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce it = to computer or whatever to capture. Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston... Jim On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser = wrote: Jim, The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes in sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next month, when you and Daryl visit Boston). As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely (though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback = and 100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away ... downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you can kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but that's a tale for another day ... ) I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first DD-20 ... the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, I just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use ... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most = part. Best, Dennis On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin wrote: > > Rainer/Saajak thanks so much. I really didn't provide enough info = so I can > see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought = about. My > attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping = technique/interest plus in > a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either = need it for > live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home = sessions > hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the = storage though > not imperative is attractive. What I was more hoping to know was = any > negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type = things. > The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be = mono out > which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a = second out > akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though = not true > stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed = (guess > doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out. I may be = mistaken > but don't think I've seen that on the J or B. I had thought about = the MMwH > but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said. > > The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as = reputation and > possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in = their > ruggedness. That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment. I = always get a > rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting = various > pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"! > > I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping = that you > might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should = have sent > those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's = so though > pertinent to this community. > > I've come from a non-looping or very little efx = manipulation/enhancement > world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done = in the > last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in = Chinapainting > though the interest in the enhancing goes way back. I am very = interested in > utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both = solo and > with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape = loops. > I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just = improvising on a > sequence. I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but = though clearly > many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is = still out on > them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius = live. Too I > don't have any external controller for Mobius just using = mouse/keys > presently. > > Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do = appreciate > all the input and any future thoughts. > > Best > > Jim --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel = Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 = 6:50 AM ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C8E26B.E0CA1FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think that I could use the Jamman if = only you=20 didn't have to stop it and save  before recording the next=20 loop.
This makes it difficult to improvise. = The Jammer=20 seems to be set up for pre making songs or phrases to play along with. = Lack of=20 feedback is another major stopper for me.
I love my EH 2880, although you can = only do one=20 long (up to 30 min stereo) loop per 1 gig card. Feedback, reverse, half = speed=20 and 4 tracks make it very fun to use. Combined with a dd 20 and a dl4 is = even=20 better,heh.
 
peace
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 = 2:32=20 PM
Subject: Re: Jamman v=20 Boss/self-promotion/new work

Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful.  I have = thought=20 several times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I = have=20 but at the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the=20 Digitech.  The Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of = saving work=20 though realize I could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce = it to=20 computer or whatever to capture.
 
Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston...
 
Jim

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser = <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
Jim,

The=20 DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes = in
sequence,=20 sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their
sturdiness, as = mine are=20 in constant use (as you will see next month,
when you and Daryl = visit=20 Boston).

As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that = rather=20 nicely
(though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also=20 the
Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% = feedback=20 and
100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away = ...
downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, = you=20 can
kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The = real=20 fun
starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but = that's=20 a
tale for another day ... )

I actually owned a Jamman and = took it=20 back to buy my first DD-20 ...
the only pluses I saw to the = Jamman was=20 the outrageous storage
capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even = for me.=20 For some reason, I
just can't get into the model that the RC-20, = RC-50=20 and Jammamn use
... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to = do for=20 the most part.

Best,

Dennis


On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>= =20 wrote:
>
> Rainer/Saajak thanks so much.  I really = didn't=20 provide enough info so I can
> see the encouragement for the = GigaDelay=20 pedal which I've thought about.  My
> attraction to the = Jamman is=20 to broaden my looping technique/interest plus in
> a sense = have a=20 portable recorder to capture things when I either need it = for
> live=20 or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home = sessions
>=20 hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage=20 though
> not imperative is attractive.  What I was more = hoping to=20 know was any
> negatives people had run into or technical = glitches=20 "design" type things.
> The only limitation on both pedals I = see is=20 that it seems to be mono out
> which in an instrument input = situation=20 I can understand though a second out
> akin to the Digitech X = series=20 Delay pedal I've been using though not true
> stereo I don't = think=20 still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess
> doubles the = noise=20 as well) but gives the parallel out.  I may be mistaken
> = but=20 don't think I've seen that on the J or B.  I had thought about = the=20 MMwH
> but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as=20 said.
>
> The Boss interest is about some less = investment as=20 well as reputation and
> possibly durability though I think = that=20 Digitech is reasonable in their
> ruggedness.  That said = I'm not=20 overly abusive to equipment.  I always get a
> rise out = of the=20 user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting various
> = pedals for=20 not holding up to their "stomps"!
>
> I realize too my = music=20 examples had very little to do with looping that you
> might = sense the=20 interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have sent
> = those sep=20 as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so = though
>=20 pertinent to this community.
>
> I've come from a = non-looping or=20 very little efx manipulation/enhancement
> world in my main = experience=20 except for the dabling that I've done in the
> last two years = largely=20 from the collaboration with Daryl in Chinapainting
> though = the=20 interest in the enhancing goes way back.  I am very interested=20 in
> utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my = work both=20 solo and
> with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the = way of=20 his tape loops.
> I'm very interested in layer creation as = opposed to=20 just improvising on a
> sequence.  I have dabbled with = Mobius as=20 many of you know but though clearly
> many of you are quite = successful=20 with live laptops my jury is still out on
> them in a live = setting=20 though I've come close to using Mobius live.  Too I
> = don't have=20 any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys
>=20 presently.
>
> Anyhow I should have clarified better and = sorry=20 for that, I do appreciate
> all the input and any future=20 thoughts.
>
> Best
>
>=20 Jim




-- =
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The=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /A>=20
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull=20 Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= Jim=20 Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com 
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6:50 AM
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C8E26B.E0CA1FE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 13:43:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 148583BE93; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=Bqf-clJlAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=6D-Hy7tQAAAA:8 a=4LsoCDX7AAAA:8 a=kN00RumdPyfbY6aSRlgA:9 a=zbWO4yoMnZZbNZB1-DmUOXbnj-0A:4 a=8fv__3mJsUoA:10 a=_l2Q2dtbBbIA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <353844.21469.bm@omp108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <987C0B7CD6A741419A54812A0478EA0B@eluk1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Gaber Subject: Re: Ninjam Jam Anyone? Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:43:31 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <7E60_C.A.dxG.GIhdIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:43:35 +0000 (UTC) I would like to participate in the Ninjam. I have been trying for months to get some guys over at the Roland VG-99 forum to join in on the fun, but something always happens. Anyway, let me introduce myself. My name is Chris and I am from Chicago. I am new to this email group, but not new to looping. I have mainly been using software to create loops, but recently traded some stuff for a RC-50 and I am quite happy with it. For the Ninjam, I can play whatever is needed. I have a set of V-drums, or I can play guitar/synth guitar, bass, or keyboards. I would just like to participate. I have also included my most recent myspace page. I put this particular page up in hopes of attracting a vocalist. There is a very short "about me" blurb that will give some more info. Thanks guys and I hope to jam soon. Chris http://www.myspace.com/chrisgaber On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Os wrote: > Sounds good. > > A while back we created this google calendar in an attempt to > coordinate such jams: > > http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=0cas4g7igp0o8fg0aa0er14pgc% > 40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/London > > You're all welcome to use it (though I may need to enable people to > add events, I forget - if so, just mail me). > > Also a reminder that I developed a Ninjam Audio Unit plug-in, and > could do with some help finishing it off: > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ninjamplugin.html > > > cheers, > os. > > > > 2008/7/9 Stephen Goodman : >> Having had such a good time when using NinJam I wondered if some >> of us on >> this list could have some fun with it on a kind of scheduled basis. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> SP Goodman >> http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman >> http://www.youtube.com/user/Enturbulata >> http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6 >> >> > > > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 14:24:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 516F43BE91; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <101191640807090625p498900c8x43015bd8c05092f@mail.gmail.com> References: <7F32BACC-5355-46EF-A882-038157F5FF35@zoekeating.com> <64b81a780806272317id7d29c8t1e00af7ff15bb795@mail.gmail.com> <64b81a780806272329q5b39ef9m712ca6cd3f7c2a30@mail.gmail.com> <1B9FCBD4-E106-4B7D-887C-122AB7D4E0DE@zoekeating.com> <64b81a780806282242w5da649a6jb7fadec3c4f896e@mail.gmail.com> <101191640807090625p498900c8x43015bd8c05092f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:24:43 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: OT: Yahoogroups and The Wealth of Nations... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:24:50 +0000 (UTC) At 9:25 AM -0400 7/9/08, Warren Sirota wrote: > >so, mech, what's your new job? English Teacher. :P I just now wrote (and deleted) a whole post on the subject, but it's primarily a whole buncha whining so nobody wants to hear that. Besides, my chief gripes can be summarized into two points. First, I'm stuck in the same crappy low-level job that every gaijin who comes here ends up taking sooner or later (just to get a Visa and keep our butts from getting kicked out of the country. It's not so bad if you're just coming out of college. But with every job I've had for the past fifteen years, I've been able to enter at least at an intermediate level (mid-level engineer, mid-level management, etc., etc.). Now I've got to get used to being back as the low(!) man on the totem pole, and it's grating on me a bit. Second, this is a McJob. McJobs are fine; they pay the bills when you need them. But this is a McJob that doesn't realize its a McJob. It wants you to raise the company flag and salute. It wants you to stand and sing the company song. It wants you to dedicate 15 hours a day, while only paying little more than any other minimum wage job pays. It wants to annoy me, because I may have sold it my a**, but it doesn't get my soul for less than five times what it's paying. And mebbe a bag of chips too. :P --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From celticbags@gazeta.pl Thu Jul 10 14:28:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.241]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CA03BE88 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 8so21911568agc.3 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.56.6 with SMTP id e6mr11764921wxa.71.1215700095421; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.8.5 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <479b27270807100728y27dc5b83pd52c2835c0c8c071@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:28:15 -0700 From: "celticbags Gazeta.pl" Subject: ABOUT YOUR FUNDS IN CBN. 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Attn:Dear,

I know that you might be surprise on this mail, but I am telling you  the truth. I know that it is
against my official duty to release confidential issue like this to an outsider. There is nothing I
can do to help you beside this; I am taking this bold step because of my belief as a Christian.

What I want to tell you is about your fund with the Federal Government of Nigeria, there are a
lot forces working against you right from the last CBN Governor Chief Joseph Sanusi and the
current Governor Prof. Charles Soludo, they have been frustrating you by demanding upfront
payment from you constantly, If I tell you that they are using all these money you sent to them
to work against you, you might not believe it. But it is reality.

There is a way I can assist you get your fund without you paying any charges to get your fund,
it is risk but one have to take it, I have assisted one woman from Mexico with it, it worked out
though her fund was US$2.5m. What you have to do is to open another bank account
anywhere, if you can open it in another place, it will be nice, but what you have to bear in mind
Is that you have to retransfer the fund to another account immediately you Confirmed the fund
in your account, I know why I want it this way.

If you want me to go ahead, let me know as soon as you get this mail and get back to me
through this very email address (drmsthelmamrs@live.com) so that I will be in better position
to know what to do, you are also to re-confirm your contract/inheritance amount to enable me
cross check if it is inline with what we have in our file.

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------=_Part_5901_20098706.1215700095410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 15:26:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 136573BE95; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=vyIeIBWcpGfz9THihbrTh7bg4UWhJPjV9A5wJZAoSes=; b=J1aLQ+RH5BFPnwVXnT2oFkAG7DNQatXSVP6zUHdoP3CeUAvtf2TbJaw5B4qkVAjdRf +58ToGI0KT5ubX2dD+BhilcKnTeRBPGCB5kuVQjpO4yHqNEqnc3KJGVwxZib4oqU5ptR mKkIaolQDhKsfZNKaCpqL0TjP0JFPZMC8IO4c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ZQ7Gc5/6jtUIt31HKvyOfQuLrdThig3imWMJOGk3g0BGpCkQ1TBZBHdbT37tMhUtmm Cb9on9XNzDRdJ0e6IsEq5uSKfUo87svDX8U7JCoeNZY21WoOZqvrrFSWdObUrHWmW4/T T6yipJfWjeL1sgCeY/FD8JhRsBGka3DWkffoc= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:26:54 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: OT: rackmount ff400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_25324_17944972.1215703614710" Resent-Message-ID: <4JktH.A.2BB._oidIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:26:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_25324_17944972.1215703614710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hi there! posted this message in the OT discussion group, but since got no response,i'm trying here.. sorry for the bandwith. i'm into buying a more ins/outs firewire interface for the computer (own an audiofire2). debating between audiofires/firefaces ... as there are some ff400 users in the forum,that play numerous live gigs per year, i'd like to know how have you managed to rackmount the ff400. must you need to ask for a special rackmount adapter if your idea is to put it inside a 19" rack case? i'd love to see some pictures if possible, since i googled them and got nothing but solely ff400 alone. thanks in advance! raul. p.s. now downloading bemf3 files ... yippie!!-- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_25324_17944972.1215703614710 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

hi there!

posted this message in the OT discussion group, but since got no response,i'm trying here.. sorry for the bandwith.


i'm into buying a more ins/outs firewire interface for the computer (own an audiofire2).

debating between audiofires/firefaces ...

as there are some ff400 users in the forum,that play numerous live gigs per year, i'd like to know how have you managed to rackmount the ff400. must you need to ask for a special rackmount adapter if your idea is to put it inside a 19" rack case? i'd love to see some pictures if possible, since i googled them and got nothing but solely ff400 alone.

thanks in advance!
raul.

p.s. now downloading bemf3 files ... yippie!!--


------=_Part_25324_17944972.1215703614710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 15:34:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0698D3BE98; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02ad01c8e2a2$81362dd0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4759e5740807090734h23411e1ew9bed172b489f9ed4@mail.gmail.com> <01f501c8e1e3$37f2bd60$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:34:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:34:56 +0000 (UTC) I sent these to Todd directly, because just the lines of text code for the three patches exceeded the LD list message size max. What is that by the way? 35K? This is why we need a web forum mirror of the list....so we can actually share something with substance. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Not laughing at Todd's predicament by any means, but MAN what I'd give > for some patches that sounded "very Evantidish" ... or Eventidish, > too. > > Sigh. Maybe one day ...anybody want to trade an Eclipse for a pair > well-loved DD-20's (*GRIN, see earlier post today ... ) > > Best, > > Dennis > > On 7/9/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >> >> Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just talked as well), but I'll send >> you >> a few of my pitch patches, including one that stacks 6 pitch shifters, >> and a >> few patches that sound very Evantidish. >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> >> Hey all, >> >> I'm throwing this out there for our max mavens... >> >> My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I need it for... >> TOMORROW... >> >> damn. >> >> so here is my predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a >> pitch >> shifter which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful. >> >> is there any one of you out there who has a max patch which will >> harmonize >> with two additional pitches above or below the root pitch which sounds >> great >> which you'd be willing to send me? I have to play single notes and have >> it >> track well enough to sound like a chord in real time. >> >> thanks in advance for any support you might give. >> >> and best to all. >> >> Todd >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his >> work, Task Force >> >> The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. >> >> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 15:51:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D2113BE8E; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1rNtrrPFak7jFzvJCGwKfq4Ej5M+REOtxfwxxX1vd+w=; b=m76Uf3eMXmL/MM3Vfy+P0Pe1IsI2UqQ8spHC1Y1XMGw2ALK6xAp/roYtaX8ExkEOeq 5s54v3jQlExFSRrKqrpQLWqGz8QDfH07CUioQKWQ179vaiJ3bmGdtv/dIKcWrnO1Bvqs 2ukRS0xEbsTGvWliMRHc90MHeaOTIgF2/7Kfc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BxCkf5H9uOSoLXBv1+gu47ugM+9SxWXo+88FTD5NThSD1nIiR3Y2u/PRq2CpipwgVZ ae/qKaRBno5TDCtPlACwmyqVDJ03D77MQanBAzQP5A1Ymyx1lpsenuhimLjmqeU2Udya Y/O9ALanFhWqwel0QQCkrBoLc3UzhL2vxvvOE= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807100851m43d0987asace2686446ad999b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:51:33 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work In-Reply-To: <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19399_3117036.1215705094005" References: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:51:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19399_3117036.1215705094005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Jeff thanks that's kind of what I was hoping or hoping not to hear as I was leaning towards the JM. Having to save before recording the next pass would yes be a drag in how I'm hoping to work, but hence maybe why they give you so much storage the idea of having a lot of pre recorded stuff. Maybe this is a given I should have surmized but appreciate you point out. The 2880 looks amazing a tad rich for my blood right now though 'penny wise pound foolish...' will ponder. thanks to all for the input on this quest jim On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I think that I could use the Jamman if only you didn't have to stop it > and save before recording the next loop. > This makes it difficult to improvise. The Jammer seems to be set up for pre > making songs or phrases to play along with. Lack of feedback is another > major stopper for me. > I love my EH 2880, although you can only do one long (up to 30 min stereo) > loop per 1 gig card. Feedback, reverse, half speed and 4 tracks make it very > fun to use. Combined with a dd 20 and a dl4 is even better,heh. > > peace > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:32 PM > *Subject:* Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work > > Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful. I have thought several > times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I have but at > the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the Digitech. The > Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of saving work though realize I > could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce it to computer or > whatever to capture. > > Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston... > > Jim > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser > wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes in >> sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their >> sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next month, >> when you and Daryl visit Boston). >> >> As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely >> (though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the >> Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback and >> 100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away ... >> downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you can >> kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun >> starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but that's a >> tale for another day ... ) >> >> I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first DD-20 ... >> the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage >> capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, I >> just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use >> ... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part. >> >> Best, >> >> Dennis >> >> >> On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin wrote: >> > >> > Rainer/Saajak thanks so much. I really didn't provide enough info so I >> can >> > see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought about. >> My >> > attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping technique/interest >> plus in >> > a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either need it >> for >> > live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home >> sessions >> > hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage >> though >> > not imperative is attractive. What I was more hoping to know was any >> > negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type >> things. >> > The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono out >> > which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a second >> out >> > akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not >> true >> > stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess >> > doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out. I may be >> mistaken >> > but don't think I've seen that on the J or B. I had thought about the >> MMwH >> > but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said. >> > >> > The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation >> and >> > possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in their >> > ruggedness. That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment. I always >> get a >> > rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting various >> > pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"! >> > >> > I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping that >> you >> > might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have >> sent >> > those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so >> though >> > pertinent to this community. >> > >> > I've come from a non-looping or very little efx manipulation/enhancement >> > world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in the >> > last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in >> Chinapainting >> > though the interest in the enhancing goes way back. I am very >> interested in >> > utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both solo >> and >> > with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape >> loops. >> > I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just improvising on >> a >> > sequence. I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but though >> clearly >> > many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is still out >> on >> > them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius live. Too >> I >> > don't have any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys >> > presently. >> > >> > Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do >> appreciate >> > all the input and any future thoughts. >> > >> > Best >> > >> > Jim >> >> > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_19399_3117036.1215705094005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Jeff thanks that's kind of what I was hoping or hoping not to hear as I was leaning towards the JM.  Having to save before recording the next pass would yes be a drag in how I'm hoping to work, but hence maybe why they give you so much storage the idea of having a lot of pre recorded stuff.  Maybe this is a given I should have surmized but appreciate you point out.
 
The 2880 looks amazing a tad rich for my blood right now though 'penny wise pound foolish...'  will ponder.
 
thanks to all for the input on this quest
 
jim

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Jeff Duke <echohead@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I think that I could use the Jamman if only you didn't have to stop it and save  before recording the next loop.
This makes it difficult to improvise. The Jammer seems to be set up for pre making songs or phrases to play along with. Lack of feedback is another major stopper for me.
I love my EH 2880, although you can only do one long (up to 30 min stereo) loop per 1 gig card. Feedback, reverse, half speed and 4 tracks make it very fun to use. Combined with a dd 20 and a dl4 is even better,heh.
 
peace
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work

Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful.  I have thought several times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I have but at the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the Digitech.  The Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of saving work though realize I could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce it to computer or whatever to capture.
 
Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston...
 
Jim

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim,

The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes in
sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their
sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next month,
when you and Daryl visit Boston).

As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely
(though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the
Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback and
100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away ...
downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you can
kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun
starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but that's a
tale for another day ... )

I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first DD-20 ...
the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage
capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, I
just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use
... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part.

Best,

Dennis


On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rainer/Saajak thanks so much.  I really didn't provide enough info so I can
> see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought about.  My
> attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping technique/interest plus in
> a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either need it for
> live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home sessions
> hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage though
> not imperative is attractive.  What I was more hoping to know was any
> negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type things.
> The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono out
> which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a second out
> akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not true
> stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess
> doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out.  I may be mistaken
> but don't think I've seen that on the J or B.  I had thought about the MMwH
> but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said.
>
> The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation and
> possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in their
> ruggedness.  That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment.  I always get a
> rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting various
> pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"!
>
> I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping that you
> might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have sent
> those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so though
> pertinent to this community.
>
> I've come from a non-looping or very little efx manipulation/enhancement
> world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in the
> last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in Chinapainting
> though the interest in the enhancing goes way back.  I am very interested in
> utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both solo and
> with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape loops.
> I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just improvising on a
> sequence.  I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but though clearly
> many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is still out on
> them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius live.  Too I
> don't have any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys
> presently.
>
> Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do appreciate
> all the input and any future thoughts.
>
> Best
>
> Jim




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_19399_3117036.1215705094005-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 16:09:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94E103BE94; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_1646871570361535 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:09:44 -0500 Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:09:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_1646871570361535 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0AFlyloops can do pitch shifting too ..... there are little +1=0D= =0ASEMITONE, -! SEMITONE buttons on the "tweek speed" panel. You click=0D= =0Athat button a few times til you get it up to where you want to shift (4= =0D=0Asemitones, say, for a major third) and then click the loop track you= =0D=0Awant to shift by that amount. =0D=0A=0D=0AYou can also click the "ton= al shifting" checkbox and then turn a midi control knob to shift the pitch = only by semitones. =0D=0A=0D=0AI=0D=0Ashould note that this is a frequency= shifter, not a pitch shiftier=0D=0Athough ... so it speeds up playback. I= f the loops are set to sync=0D=0A(default), they will repeat early to stay = in time with the master.=0D=0A=0D=0ASee the screenshot and interactive demo= at: http://www.flyloops.com/demo/=0D=0AIf you have a PC, download here: h= ttp://www.flyloops.com/download.htm=0D=0A=0D=0Await=0D=0Aabout a week and t= here should be a video on semitonal frequency=0D=0Ashifting on the webpage = too .... I'm a bit overdue for that one.=0D=0A=0D=0A----------------------= ------------------=0D=0AFrom: "todd reynolds" =0D=0ASen= t: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:25 PM=0D=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) = =0D=0A=0D=0Athanks, Kris, anxiously await! =0D=0A=0D=0Aplease just make sur= e I can understand your ins and outs, being the non max expert that I am, a= s you know... !=0D=0A=0D=0At.=0D=0A=0D=0AOn Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Kr= ispen Hartung wrote:=0D=0A=0D=0ATodd - I know you t= alked to Jeff (we just talked as =0D=0Awell), but I'll send you a few of my= pitch patches, including one that stacks 6 =0D=0Apitch shifters, and a few= patches that sound very Evantidish. =0D=0A =0D=0AKris =0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0AH= ey =0D=0A all, =0D=0A=0D=0AI'm throwing this out there for our max mavens.= .. =0D=0A=0D=0AMy =0D=0A Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I ne= ed it for... =0D=0A TOMORROW... =0D=0A=0D=0Adamn.=0D=0A=0D=0Aso here is my= predicament... Last time I =0D=0A tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shi= fter which sounded good, I was entirely =0D=0A unsuccessful. =0D=0A=0D=0A= is there any one of you out there who has a max =0D=0A patch which will ha= rmonize with two additional pitches above or below the root =0D=0A pitch w= hich sounds great which you'd be willing to send me? I have to =0D=0A pla= y single notes and have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real = =0D=0A time. =0D=0A=0D=0Athanks in advance for any support you might =0D= =0A give. =0D=0A=0D=0Aand best to all.=0D=0A=0D=0ATodd=0D=0A=0D=0A-- =0D= =0AIn LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven =0D=0A Koplowit= z on his work, Task Force=0D=0A=0D=0AThe Bang on a Can Institute follows = =0D=0A in North Adams at MassMoCA.=0D=0A=0D=0Ahttp://blog.toddreynolds.com= =0D=0A=0D=0A-- =0D=0AIn LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steve= n Koplowitz on his work, Task Force=0D=0A=0D=0AThe Bang on a Can Institute = follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.=0D=0A=0D=0Ahttp://blog.toddreynolds.com= =0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_1646871570361535 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Flyloops can do pitch shifting too ..... there are little +1=0D= =0ASEMITONE, -! SEMITONE buttons on the "tweek speed" panel.  You clic= k=0D=0Athat button a few times til you get it up to where you want to shift= (4=0D=0Asemitones, say, for a major third) and then click the loop track y= ou=0D=0Awant to shift by that amount.

You can also click the "tonal= shifting" checkbox and then turn a midi control knob to shift the pitch on= ly by semitones. 

I=0D=0Ashould note that this is a frequency = shifter, not a pitch shiftier=0D=0Athough ... so it speeds up playback.&nbs= p; If the loops are set to sync=0D=0A(default), they will repeat early to s= tay in time with the master.

See the screenshot and interactive demo= at: http://www= .flyloops.com/demo/
If you have a PC, download here:  http://www.flyloops.c= om/download.htm

wait=0D=0Aabout a week and there should be a vid= eo on semitonal frequency=0D=0Ashifting on the webpage too ....  I'm a= bit overdue for that one.



F= rom: "todd reynolds" <toddreyn@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:25 PM
To: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: pitch shifting = and harmonizing again (emergency)

thanks, Kris, anxiously awa= it! 

please just make sure I can understand your ins and outs, = being the non max expert that I am, as you know... !

t.


<= br>
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartu= ng <khartung@cableone.net&g= t; wrote:
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
<= font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just ta= lked as =0D=0Awell), but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches, including= one that stacks 6 =0D=0Apitch shifters, and a few patches that sound very = Evantidish.
=0D=0A
 
=0D=0A
Kris
=0D=0A
 = ;
=0D=0A

=0D=0A
Hey =0D=0A all,

I'm throwing this out there for= our max mavens... 

My =0D=0A Eventide will not arrive in time= for a piece I need it for... =0D=0A TOMORROW... 

damn.
so here is my predicament... Last time I =0D=0A tried to use gizmo~ to ma= ke a pitch shifter which sounded good, I was entirely =0D=0A unsuccessful.=  

is there any one of you out there who has a max =0D=0A patc= h which will harmonize with two additional pitches above or below the root = =0D=0A pitch which sounds great which you'd be willing to send me?  I= have to =0D=0A play single notes and have it track well enough to sound l= ike a chord in real =0D=0A time. 

thanks in advance for any su= pport you might =0D=0A give. 

and best to all.

Todd
=




--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborati= ng with artist Steven =0D=0A Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The = Bang on a Can Institute follows =0D=0A in North Adams at MassMoCA.

= http://blog.tod= dreynolds.com
=0D=0A


--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating wit= h artist Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can = Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
------_SmarterMail_NextPart_1646871570361535-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 16:11:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06ABC3BE90; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=pW8LteqWIHOm8Z+Y0I5WH35CV+HrJvS1Hdal4A9O+EU=; b=Snp8goJwxzT+aNuDJMrV/Pneg/NmKUbtR2YvWE/n0LbvpjEFQBoViWPT09ysj674DF 3E3lb8+qKItLHnMSxQvG4VNGmA3+O8dhu3Dg+nQcTSibTwwaIFr4kdzVD9q3fV4cSuoU 9DNw/DMxJOBXPAeL5RH55k/pGocHFoK7G1gpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=VhWdBCRvABpGM7aWL0kR72UKM/Jk2Lk6YtEzp6YIuyJVU2Uimj3wxjEuDfiF5CFvVl yJkslHBX2jhna3Mz3HS2CpsnEYiPo1KmhFXlbkF9W0AJc4YNL9mtsHPP0qzydR7j6cQv c5ose7vJCDAJCVOGSl6c6Qnm+pPnZT06sQGXw= Message-ID: <101191640807100910k20823956l4ba9cec50eba79f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:10:30 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: treated strings , for real In-Reply-To: <00de01c8d649$6b94ce10$42be6a30$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0806231632r30b9db11q626e45078d1db1e3@mail.gmail.com> <48613C78.6000309@servingpeace.com> <66f9cc1e0806241247j1270880ag424c3d0e1702e20d@mail.gmail.com> <7E56AC8A-D1D5-46FE-94D8-00FAA3CC0CF0@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0806241450k6f400426u15879257ed31fe80@mail.gmail.com> <00de01c8d649$6b94ce10$42be6a30$@com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 74e4293351d817a3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:11:03 +0000 (UTC) one of my favorite kinds of tinkerers - the kind who builds amazing, quirky things. nice composition, too. On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > Not looping but... > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I3Wk1DGxbw > > not sure what to call this ! > > -Qua > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 16:20:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C10DC3BE90; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=2AovdCnoViojofrE5296wufbENNBEXEw3tlIAvIb0K8=; b=ZHeobv0jcOFyf0ujTAWGh50p/hw4Zvh0i3xWtCrwti92jgfIXqidaSgSy4RdpZekSz /Jfwor1tfrAQUije/tEmsZHx/anW4lX3YCaYhU+zw9i8gOt7W+jIKriSrPfPbqDA/4i9 R9U7+H2PXs0eYqkRLDpDCtM3oWARBhVS1LLi4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=LoeKMylUGUloWGh+xQ290u9szq8pszFCFGZrojp8i0NAS18v7ZjQy8B9r08IoZqLNR CegK+eImm2vEhb9DcEkMXfLxGGTWRA/iqtJx3GwCKfGLUb2/yipNxVKPL0aOMQ2Wn+bn BzQx506mJCpMfWFeh5guIKKzH4x1D4tAFGk7c= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807100920s8c633afm3db6671df20b833c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:20:38 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Slightly OT but still Experiemental: Fwd: Tom is playing in an intriguing show this Saturday (involving snails) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19696_910271.1215706838286" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:20:41 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19696_910271.1215706838286 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Folks this is a gig here in NY that sounds pretty cool. It's a show my violin teacher is doing with a prepared keyboard artist and snails, thought it was worth sharing to this community... Jim ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tom Swafford Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:58 AM Subject: Tom is playing in an intriguing show this Saturday (involving snails) To: tswaf@hotmail.com Hello Everyone I'm playing with an interesting composer/musician from the Bay Area this Saturday in Brooklyn. Eric is also performing a solo set on Sunday. Announcing two concerts this weekend in Brooklyn: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 8pm: Eric Glick Rieman (Berkeley, CA) in a rare East Coast performance on his modified and prepared Rhodes electric piano. The performance includes a tri= o premiere of "Snail Road House" a score created in collaboration with snails= . [ This is for real. One of my snails is very interested in the project! ed.= ] Glick Rieman is joined by Shayna Dulberger (acoustic bass, of Stars like Fleas, The Young Equestrians, and many other groups) and Tom Swafford (violin, of the Emergency String Quartet.) Listen/Space 195 Skillman Ave. Brooklyn, NY 11211 Sunday, July 13, 8pm Eric Glick Rieman performs solo on prepared and modified Rhodes electric piano. "Rieman's instrument looks like a post-apocalyptic Rhodes piano; some of it= s insides are removed and sitting next to it, and it has all sorts of foreign objects crammed into it like shrapnel =97 with strategically placed microphones to capture the various sounds of it all. =85 The range of color= s that he got out of this instrument was astonishing=85" -Jonathan Russell, Professor of Musicianship, San Francisco Conservatory of Music, writing in San Francisco Classical Voice, Issue 8/18-25/05 Review of the San Francisco Electronic Music Festival, 2005 Unnameable Books 456 Bergen St. Brooklyn, NY 11217 http://www.myspace.com/ericglickrieman http://www.myspace.com/shaynadulberger http://www.myspace.com/tomswafford --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_19696_910271.1215706838286 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Folks this is a gig here in NY that sounds pretty&nbs= p;cool.  It's a show my violin teacher is doing with a prepared ke= yboard artist and snails, thought it was worth sharing to this community...=
 
Jim

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:= Tom Swafford <tswaf@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:58= AM
Subject: Tom is playing in an intriguing show this Saturday (involving snai= ls)
To: tswaf@hotmail.com


Hello Everyone

I'm playing with an interesting compose= r/musician from the Bay Area this Saturday in Brooklyn.  Eric is also = performing a solo set on Sunday.


Announcing two concerts this weekend in Brooklyn:

Saturday, = July 12, 2008, 8pm:

Eric Glick Rieman (Berkeley, CA) in a rare East = Coast performance on his modified and prepared Rhodes electric piano. The p= erformance includes a trio premiere of "Snail Road House" a score= created in collaboration with snails. [ This is for real. One of my snails= is very interested in the project! ed.]
Glick Rieman is joined by Shayna Dulberger (acoustic bass, of Stars like Fl= eas, The Young Equestrians, and many other groups) and Tom Swafford (violin= , of the Emergency String Quartet.)

Listen/Space
195 Skillman Ave= .
Brooklyn, NY 11211



Sunday, July 13, 8pm
Eric Glick Rieman= performs solo on prepared and modified Rhodes electric piano.

"= ;Rieman's instrument looks like a post-apocalyptic Rhodes piano; some of it= s insides are removed and sitting next to it, and it has all sorts of forei= gn objects crammed into it like shrapnel =97 with strategically placed micr= ophones to capture the various sounds of it all. =85 The range of colors th= at
he got out of this instrument was astonishing=85"

-Jonathan Rus= sell, Professor of Musicianship, San Francisco Conservatory of Music, writi= ng in San Francisco Classical Voice, Issue 8/18-25/05
Review of the San = Francisco Electronic Music Festival, 2005

Unnameable Books
456 Bergen St.
Brooklyn, NY
11217


= http:/= /www.myspace.com/ericglickrieman
http://www.myspace.com/shaynadulberger
http://www= .myspace.com/tomswafford




--
= The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapa= inting on My Space -
http://www.myspac= e.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 oth= er creative souls - http://www.= woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://= www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by M= el Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.me= lbay.com
------=_Part_19696_910271.1215706838286-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 16:57:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBD353BE90; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02c601c8e2ae$12fdd0f0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:57:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02C3_01C8E27B.C7D6D860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:57:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02C3_01C8E27B.C7D6D860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But can you randomly change pitch, control the speed and range of = randomness (or make that random), pitch change down to the decimal point = (semi tones and smaller or linear change), and do this with multiple = pitch changes simultaneously? :) Ever heard of Fly Paper? :) Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 Flyloops can do pitch shifting too ..... there are little +1 SEMITONE, = -! SEMITONE buttons on the "tweek speed" panel. You click that button a = few times til you get it up to where you want to shift (4 semitones, = say, for a major third) and then click the loop track you want to shift = by that amount.=20 You can also click the "tonal shifting" checkbox and then turn a midi = control knob to shift the pitch only by semitones. =20 I should note that this is a frequency shifter, not a pitch shiftier = though ... so it speeds up playback. If the loops are set to sync = (default), they will repeat early to stay in time with the master. See the screenshot and interactive demo at: = http://www.flyloops.com/demo/ If you have a PC, download here: http://www.flyloops.com/download.htm wait about a week and there should be a video on semitonal frequency = shifting on the webpage too .... I'm a bit overdue for that one. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: "todd reynolds" Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:25 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) thanks, Kris, anxiously await!=20 please just make sure I can understand your ins and outs, being the = non max expert that I am, as you know... ! t. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartung = wrote: Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just talked as well), but I'll = send you a few of my pitch patches, including one that stacks 6 pitch = shifters, and a few patches that sound very Evantidish. Kris Hey all,=20 I'm throwing this out there for our max mavens...=20 My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I need it for... = TOMORROW...=20 damn. so here is my predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to = make a pitch shifter which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful. =20 is there any one of you out there who has a max patch which will = harmonize with two additional pitches above or below the root pitch = which sounds great which you'd be willing to send me? I have to play = single notes and have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real = time.=20 thanks in advance for any support you might give.=20 and best to all. Todd --=20 In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz = on his work, Task Force The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. http://blog.toddreynolds.com --=20 In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on = his work, Task Force The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_NextPart_000_02C3_01C8E27B.C7D6D860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
But can you randomly change pitch, = control the=20 speed and range of randomness (or make that random), pitch change down = to the=20 decimal point (semi tones and smaller or linear change), and do this = with=20 multiple pitch changes simultaneously? :)    Ever heard = of Fly=20 Paper? :)
 
Kris
 
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen = Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> = wrote:
Todd - I know you talked to Jeff = (we just=20 talked as well), but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches, = including one=20 that stacks 6 pitch shifters, and a few patches that sound very=20 Evantidish.
 
Kris
 

Hey=20 all,

I'm throwing this out there for our max=20 mavens... 

My Eventide will not arrive in time for a = piece I=20 need it for... TOMORROW... 

damn.

so here is my = predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch = shifter=20 which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful.  

is = there=20 any one of you out there who has a max patch which will harmonize = with two=20 additional pitches above or below the root pitch which sounds = great which=20 you'd be willing to send me?  I have to play single notes and = have it=20 track well enough to sound like a chord in real = time. 

thanks=20 in advance for any support you might give. 

and best = to=20 all.

Todd





--
In LA = June=20 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his = work, Task=20 Force

The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at = MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com


--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with = artist Steven=20 Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can Institute = follows=20 in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_02C3_01C8E27B.C7D6D860-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 17:26:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C96543BE91; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_7304852776106234 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:26:05 -0500 Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:26:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_7304852776106234 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0AI don't do random ...... I don't need a computer to make a mess for m= e, I can do that myself. Decimal point, yes ..... you can tweek the playba= ck speed from 0 to 16x ..... and any amount in between. The semitone butto= ns and tonal shifting options are for convenience in case you want to shift= ONLY to notes that are tonally related.=0D=0A=0D=0AIn the case of building= a chord for example .... you can record the same tone to three tracks, the= n shift one of them by +4 semitones(a major third) and another by +7 semito= nes(the fifth). =0D=0A=0D=0AYou can also stack while tweeking the playback= speed up and down .... the stacked audio will be smeared across the audio = (meaning you alter the record speed when you are recording and frequency sh= ifting) ..... you can do this with decay and have a smeared, decaying, stac= king, pitch shifted mess if you want .....=0D=0A=0D=0Aand yes, multiple tra= cks can be shifted by different amounts at the same time. You can map it a= ll to midi controls and tweek on up and another down at the same time .....= =0D=0A=0D=0Aflypaper is the stuff we had in the barn when I was a kid that = hung down from the ceiling and caught all the flys.=0D=0A=0D=0Aany other qu= estions?=0D=0A=0D=0A----------------------------------------=0D=0AFrom: "Kr= ispen Hartung" =0D=0ASent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8= :57 AM=0D=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: pitch= shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) =0D=0A=0D=0ABut can you randoml= y change pitch, control the =0D=0Aspeed and range of randomness (or make th= at random), pitch change down to the =0D=0Adecimal point (semi tones and sm= aller or linear change), and do this with =0D=0Amultiple pitch changes simu= ltaneously? :) Ever heard of Fly =0D=0APaper? :) =0D=0A =0D=0AKris =0D= =0A =0D=0A=0D=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0D=0A=0D=0AFlyloops =0D=0A= can do pitch shifting too ..... there are little +1 SEMITONE, -! SEMITONE= =0D=0A buttons on the "tweek speed" panel. You click that button a few t= imes =0D=0A til you get it up to where you want to shift (4 semitones, say= , for a major =0D=0A third) and then click the loop track you want to shif= t by that amount. =0D=0A=0D=0AYou can also click the "tonal shifting" check= box and then turn a midi =0D=0A control knob to shift the pitch only by se= mitones. =0D=0A=0D=0AI should note =0D=0A that this is a frequency shifte= r, not a pitch shiftier though ... so it speeds =0D=0A up playback. If th= e loops are set to sync (default), they will repeat =0D=0A early to stay i= n time with the master.=0D=0A=0D=0ASee the screenshot and =0D=0A interacti= ve demo at: http://www.flyloops.com/demo/=0D=0AIf you have a PC, download = =0D=0A here: http://www.flyloops.com/download.htm=0D=0A=0D=0Await about a= =0D=0A week and there should be a video on semitonal frequency shifting o= n the =0D=0A webpage too .... I'm a bit overdue for that one.=0D=0A=0D=0A= ----------------------------------------=0D=0A=0D=0A From: "todd reynolds"= =0D=0A =0D=0ASent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 =0D=0A 1= 2:25 PM=0D=0ATo: =0D=0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: = Re: pitch =0D=0A shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) =0D=0A=0D=0Ath= anks, Kris, =0D=0A anxiously await! =0D=0A=0D=0Aplease just make sure I ca= n understand your ins =0D=0A and outs, being the non max expert that I am,= as you know... =0D=0A !=0D=0A=0D=0At.=0D=0A=0D=0A On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at= 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote:=0D=0A=0D=0A Tod= d - I know you talked to Jeff (we just =0D=0A talked as well), but I'll = send you a few of my pitch patches, including one =0D=0A that stacks 6 p= itch shifters, and a few patches that sound very =0D=0A Evantidish. =0D= =0A =0D=0A Kris =0D=0A=0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A Hey =0D=0A all= , =0D=0A=0D=0AI'm throwing this out there for our max =0D=0A mavens...= =0D=0A=0D=0AMy Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I =0D=0A = need it for... TOMORROW... =0D=0A=0D=0Adamn.=0D=0A=0D=0Aso here is my =0D= =0A predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shi= fter =0D=0A which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful. =0D=0A= =0D=0Ais there =0D=0A any one of you out there who has a max patch whi= ch will harmonize with two =0D=0A additional pitches above or below th= e root pitch which sounds great which =0D=0A you'd be willing to send = me? I have to play single notes and have it =0D=0A track well enough = to sound like a chord in real time. =0D=0A=0D=0Athanks =0D=0A in advan= ce for any support you might give. =0D=0A=0D=0Aand best to =0D=0A all.= =0D=0A=0D=0ATodd=0D=0A=0D=0A-- =0D=0AIn LA June =0D=0A 15-July 7th col= laborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task =0D=0A Force= =0D=0A=0D=0AThe Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at =0D=0A = MassMoCA.=0D=0A=0D=0Ahttp://blog.toddreynolds.com=0D=0A=0D=0A-- =0D=0AIn= LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven =0D=0A Koplowitz on = his work, Task Force=0D=0A=0D=0AThe Bang on a Can Institute follows =0D=0A = in North Adams at MassMoCA.=0D=0A=0D=0Ahttp://blog.toddreynolds.com=0D=0A= =0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_7304852776106234 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't do random ...... I don't need a computer to make a mess for me,= I can do that myself.  Decimal point, yes ..... you can tweek the pla= yback speed from 0 to 16x ..... and any amount in between.  The semito= ne buttons and tonal shifting options are for convenience in case you want = to shift ONLY to notes that are tonally related.

In the case of buil= ding a chord for example .... you can record the same tone to three tracks,= then shift one of them by +4 semitones(a major third) and another by +7 se= mitones(the fifth). 

You can also stack while tweeking the pla= yback speed up and down .... the stacked audio will be smeared across the a= udio (meaning you alter the record speed when you are recording and frequen= cy shifting) ..... you can do this with decay and have a smeared, decaying,= stacking, pitch shifted mess if you want .....

and yes, multiple tr= acks can be shifted by different amounts at the same time.  You can ma= p it all to midi controls and tweek on up and another down at the same time= .....

flypaper is the stuff we had in the barn when I was a kid tha= t hung down from the ceiling and caught all the flys.

any other ques= tions?



<= hr align=3D"center" size=3D"2" width=3D"100%">From: "Krisp= en Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
Sent: Thursda= y, July 10, 2008 8:57 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com
Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing a= gain (emergency)

=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D= =0A=0D=0A=0D=0A
But can you randomly ch= ange pitch, control the =0D=0Aspeed and range of randomness (or make that r= andom), pitch change down to the =0D=0Adecimal point (semi tones and smalle= r or linear change), and do this with =0D=0Amultiple pitch changes simultan= eously? :)    Ever heard of Fly =0D=0APaper? :)
= =0D=0A
 
=0D=0A
Kris
=0D=0A
 
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
----- Original Message -----

Flyloops =0D=0A can do pitch sh= ifting too ..... there are little +1 SEMITONE, -! SEMITONE =0D=0A buttons = on the "tweek speed" panel.  You click that button a few times =0D=0A = til you get it up to where you want to shift (4 semitones, say, for a majo= r =0D=0A third) and then click the loop track you want to shift by that am= ount. =0D=0A

You can also click the "tonal shifting" checkbox and = then turn a midi =0D=0A control knob to shift the pitch only by semitones.=  

I should note =0D=0A that this is a frequency shifter, not = a pitch shiftier though ... so it speeds =0D=0A up playback.  If the = loops are set to sync (default), they will repeat =0D=0A early to stay in = time with the master.

See the screenshot and =0D=0A interactive dem= o at: http://ww= w.flyloops.com/demo/
If you have a PC, download =0D=0A here:  = http://www.f= lyloops.com/download.htm

wait about a =0D=0A week and there sho= uld be a video on semitonal frequency shifting on the =0D=0A webpage too .= ...  I'm a bit overdue for that one.



=0D=0A
=0D=0A From: "todd reynolds" =0D=0A <to= ddreyn@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 =0D= =0A 12:25 PM
To: =0D=0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com
Subject: Re: pitch =0D=0A shifting and harmoniz= ing again (emergency)

thanks, Kris, =0D=0A anxiously await!&= nbsp;

please just make sure I can understand your ins =0D=0A and ou= ts, being the non max expert that I am, as you know... =0D=0A !

t.<= br>


=0D=0A
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008= at 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartung <k= hartung@cableone.net> wrote:
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
=0D=0A =
Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we j= ust =0D=0A talked as well), but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches,= including one =0D=0A that stacks 6 pitch shifters, and a few patches th= at sound very =0D=0A Evantidish.
=0D=0A
 
= =0D=0A
Kris
=0D=0A <= div>=0D=0A
=0D=0A
 
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
Hey =0D=0A all,

I'm throwing this out there for our ma= x =0D=0A mavens... 

My Eventide will not arrive in time fo= r a piece I =0D=0A need it for... TOMORROW... 

damn.
so here is my =0D=0A predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ = to make a pitch shifter =0D=0A which sounded good, I was entirely unsu= ccessful.  

is there =0D=0A any one of you out there who h= as a max patch which will harmonize with two =0D=0A additional pitches= above or below the root pitch which sounds great which =0D=0A you'd b= e willing to send me?  I have to play single notes and have it =0D=0A = track well enough to sound like a chord in real time. 

tha= nks =0D=0A in advance for any support you might give. 

and= best to =0D=0A all.

Todd





= --
In LA June =0D=0A 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven = Koplowitz on his work, Task =0D=0A Force

The Bang on a Can Inst= itute follows in North Adams at =0D=0A MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com<= /a>



--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven =0D= =0A Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can Institute f= ollows =0D=0A in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com

------_SmarterMail_NextPart_7304852776106234-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 18:10:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F169D3BE91; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_7837832604435370 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:10:27 -0500 Subject: LD collaborative cantaloupe From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:10:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_7837832604435370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0ASo I was working with a looped version of cantaloup island the = other day, and it occured to me that it would be really easy to send out th= e loop (as one or several .wav files) to other loopers and get each of them= to add a solo ......=0D=0A=0D=0AI was thinking we could do this with five = or six of us and each person could generate a solo that is one or two times= through the progression ...... =0D=0A=0D=0AThen send your work back to me = and I'll edit it all together. Sort of a quick way to get a collaborative = work together.=0D=0A=0D=0AAnyone up to it?=0D=0A=0D=0AYou can hear what I p= ut together yesterday at www.aaronleese.com ..... just click on cantaloup i= sland in the player. Naturally, I won't keep that much of my own soloing i= n the collaborative work ... probably just once through the progression for= me. The melody is in F minor, but feel free to take the solos where-ever= you like.=0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_7837832604435370 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So I was working with a looped version of cantaloup island the othe= r day, and it occured to me that it would be really easy to send out the lo= op (as one or several .wav files) to other loopers and get each of them to = add a solo ......

I was thinking we could do this with five or six o= f us and each person could generate a solo that is one or two times through= the progression ......

Then send your work back to me and I'll edi= t it all together.  Sort of a quick way to get a collaborative work to= gether.

Anyone up to it?

You can hear what I put together yes= terday at www.aaronleese.com ..... just click on cantaloup island in the pl= ayer.  Naturally, I won't keep that much of my own soloing in the coll= aborative work ... probably just once through the progression for me. = The melody is in  F minor, but feel free to take the solos where-ever= you like.


------_SmarterMail_NextPart_7837832604435370-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 19:22:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F31433BE8E; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48766176.7050201@servingpeace.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:22:30 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: rackmount ff400 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Raul Bonell wrote: > as there are some ff400 users in the forum,that play numerous live gigs > per year, i'd like to know how have you managed to rackmount the ff400. > must you need to ask for a special rackmount adapter if your idea is to > put it inside a 19" rack case? i'd love to see some pictures if > possible, since i googled them and got nothing but solely ff400 alone. Hi Raul, I bought a used rack tray on Ebay. This is a metal tray with two ears for rack mounting. It is attached to the rack via its right ear, and it sits on the tray for extra support. I guess I got lucky because I had no way to know that the tray would work with the unit. Here is another probably better way to find a useable tray: http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2170 - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 19:51:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 847533BE93; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48766831.3070001@servingpeace.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:51:13 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: rackmount ff400 References: <48766176.7050201@servingpeace.com> In-Reply-To: <48766176.7050201@servingpeace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6TxRt.A.Bd.zgmdIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Sam Nilsson wrote: > I bought a used rack tray on Ebay. This is a metal tray with two ears > for rack mounting. It is attached to the rack via its right ear, and it > sits on the tray for extra support. I guess I got lucky because I had no > way to know that the tray would work with the unit. > > Here is another probably better way to find a useable tray: > > http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2170 Sorry for the confusing post. I wrote it too hastily. I meant to say: "The FF400 is attached to the rack via its right ear, and it sits on the tray for extra support." - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 21:06:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9372A3BE91; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:06:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:06:04 EDT Subject: Re: LD collaborative cantaloupe To: aaronleese@flyloops.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1215723964" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 15301 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:06:09 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1215723964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aaron - Does the solo itself have to be looped? Or is that a personal choice thing? I'd like to participate in any event. Harry Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) -------------------------------1215723964 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Aaron - Does the solo itself have to be looped?  Or is that a pers= onal=20 choice thing?  I'd like to participate in any event.
 
Harry
 
Harry=20 Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th=20 Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212)=20 989-2908



Get the sc= oop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Chec= k out TourTracker.com!
-------------------------------1215723964-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 10 23:33:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B2A43BE8F; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_4014302208787474 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:33:26 -0500 Subject: re: LD collaborative cantaloupe From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: <27e8e279484241b4baa430e6f987d457@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:33:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_4014302208787474 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0Aoops ----- yeah, it was down. Sorry, I was making some changes= and had the site down for a bit. It's back now.=0D=0A=0D=0AAnd yeah, in r= esponse to Harry ... I can sent you 4 loops .... the drums, the other drums= , the chords, and the bass .....=0D=0A=0D=0AYou can alter the loops, or onl= y use one or two of them, or play them all backwards ...... anything you ca= n do is fine with me ..... as long as it can flow to/from the other partici= pants. but then, I'll edit them all at the end and can make that happen. = =0D=0A=0D=0AThe point here is to get a fair representation of the different= looping styles ...... so I would like to get a few solos that discard the = chord changes and just float off ...... or do some pitch/frequency shifting= ...... anything is fine.=0D=0A=0D=0AI'll post the finished product with a = list of the people and what they played, and with what looper.=0D=0A=0D=0AA= lso, if a couple people could do the melody too, that would be cool .... ma= ybe on some interesting instruments (Theremin would be cool). I have a cop= y of the sheet if anyone is interested in that.=0D=0A=0D=0Alemme know=0D=0A= AL=0D=0A=0D=0A----------------------------------------=0D=0AFrom: "aaronlee= se@flyloops.com" =0D=0ASent: Thursday, July 10, 20= 08 10:10 AM=0D=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: LD c= ollaborative cantaloupe =0D=0A=0D=0ASo I was working with a looped version = of cantaloup island the other day, and it occured to me that it would be re= ally easy to send out the loop (as one or several .wav files) to other loop= ers and get each of them to add a solo ......=0D=0A=0D=0AI was thinking we = could do this with five or six of us and each person could generate a solo = that is one or two times through the progression ...... =0D=0A=0D=0AThen se= nd your work back to me and I'll edit it all together. Sort of a quick way= to get a collaborative work together.=0D=0A=0D=0AAnyone up to it?=0D=0A=0D= =0AYou can hear what I put together yesterday at www.aaronleese.com ..... j= ust click on cantaloup island in the player. Naturally, I won't keep that = much of my own soloing in the collaborative work ... probably just once thr= ough the progression for me. The melody is in F minor, but feel free to t= ake the solos where-ever you like.=0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_4014302208787474 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

oops ----- yeah, it was down.  Sorry, I was making some change= s and had the site down for a bit.  It's back now.

And yeah, in= response to Harry ... I can sent you 4 loops .... the drums, the other dru= ms, the chords, and the bass .....

You can alter the loops, or only = use one or two of them, or play them all backwards ...... anything you can = do is fine with me ..... as long as it can flow to/from the other participa= nts.  but then, I'll edit them all at the end and can make that happen= .

The point here is to get a fair representation of the different l= ooping styles ...... so I would like to get a few solos that discard the ch= ord changes and just float off ...... or do some pitch/frequency shifting .= ..... anything is fine.

I'll post the finished product with a list o= f the people and what they played, and with what looper.

Also, if a = couple people could do the melody too, that would be cool .... maybe on som= e interesting instruments (Theremin would be cool).  I have a copy of = the sheet if anyone is interested in that.

lemme know
AL

<= br>
From: "aaronleese@flyloops.= com" <aaronleese@flyloops.com>
Sent: Thursday, Ju= ly 10, 2008 10:10 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
Subject: LD collaborative cantaloupe


So I was working with a looped version of cantaloup island the ot= her day, and it occured to me that it would be really easy to send out the = loop (as one or several .wav files) to other loopers and get each of them t= o add a solo ......

I was thinking we could do this with five or six= of us and each person could generate a solo that is one or two times throu= gh the progression ......

Then send your work back to me and I'll e= dit it all together.  Sort of a quick way to get a collaborative work = together.

Anyone up to it?

You can hear what I put together y= esterday at www.aaronleese.com ..... just click on cantaloup island in the = player.  Naturally, I won't keep that much of my own soloing in the co= llaborative work ... probably just once through the progression for me.&nbs= p; The melody is in  F minor, but feel free to take the solos where-ev= er you like.



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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 11 15:00:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FCDE3BE84; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VxL96OsiRPIUgmsArBHcAu6LquX3llVaCQVGtKXx2tw=; b=jIdw76m9/y5Ge2JWJnCys+tHbgfAF2HSWiVNKXitVhjHBt5/HMdoEkJXbwpydWyFtI RHu8f/ayrH6eGn0oclBkqsplxc9/mBpuc4AcR7DBmyRJaLcgTaO7a03qrb1lBU/niJZ6 QbBxpyH5RB+uTwBmd0y8GUyjtMzdpwHpWoNdw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=n7wzmGr54ky0XY2MK3ZWgNGpWe8AYxyWeNUllxatr8H2MAasAE7PpHfWDm0dZSsSEd zAH8GWny+PQRIXrp/Km7ZlSB5+3BTujID1vP5VNFQ705AvnzIxsXqh1+kvPPTM23dRfp uRDTFeLu1bFbiCc2hVQtswwCFoGCjtG3kNq5w= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807110759m5a5c2befvd99c2cfb0bce7956@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:59:50 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60807100851m43d0987asace2686446ad999b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32096_14025446.1215788390804" References: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60807100851m43d0987asace2686446ad999b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:00:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_32096_14025446.1215788390804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Jeff thanks again for the info on this, took a look at MH demo and am impressed. I found a couple on eBay one that appears to be some sort of 'factory second' deal but the comments are very mixed. anyhow it does look great, much better than the JM and another $100 for what it will do which is a lot. I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us [chinapainting] at Y2k last year, Saturday evening? There was a Jeff but I may have you mixed up. Regardless thx re the info. jim On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Jeff thanks that's kind of what I was hoping or hoping not to hear as I > was leaning towards the JM. Having to save before recording the next pass > would yes be a drag in how I'm hoping to work, but hence maybe why they give > you so much storage the idea of having a lot of pre recorded stuff. Maybe > this is a given I should have surmized but appreciate you point out. > > The 2880 looks amazing a tad rich for my blood right now though 'penny wise > pound foolish...' will ponder. > > thanks to all for the input on this quest > > jim > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Jeff Duke > wrote: > >> I think that I could use the Jamman if only you didn't have to stop it >> and save before recording the next loop. >> This makes it difficult to improvise. The Jammer seems to be set up for >> pre making songs or phrases to play along with. Lack of feedback is another >> major stopper for me. >> I love my EH 2880, although you can only do one long (up to 30 min stereo) >> loop per 1 gig card. Feedback, reverse, half speed and 4 tracks make it very >> fun to use. Combined with a dd 20 and a dl4 is even better,heh. >> >> peace >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Jim Goodin >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:32 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work >> >> Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful. I have thought several >> times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I have but at >> the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the Digitech. The >> Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of saving work though realize I >> could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce it to computer or >> whatever to capture. >> >> Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston... >> >> Jim >> >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser >> wrote: >> >>> Jim, >>> >>> The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes in >>> sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their >>> sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next month, >>> when you and Daryl visit Boston). >>> >>> As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely >>> (though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the >>> Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback and >>> 100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away ... >>> downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you can >>> kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun >>> starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but that's a >>> tale for another day ... ) >>> >>> I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first DD-20 ... >>> the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage >>> capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, I >>> just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use >>> ... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin wrote: >>> > >>> > Rainer/Saajak thanks so much. I really didn't provide enough info so I >>> can >>> > see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought about. >>> My >>> > attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping technique/interest >>> plus in >>> > a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either need >>> it for >>> > live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home >>> sessions >>> > hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage >>> though >>> > not imperative is attractive. What I was more hoping to know was any >>> > negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type >>> things. >>> > The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono >>> out >>> > which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a second >>> out >>> > akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not >>> true >>> > stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess >>> > doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out. I may be >>> mistaken >>> > but don't think I've seen that on the J or B. I had thought about the >>> MMwH >>> > but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said. >>> > >>> > The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation >>> and >>> > possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in their >>> > ruggedness. That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment. I always >>> get a >>> > rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting >>> various >>> > pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"! >>> > >>> > I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping that >>> you >>> > might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have >>> sent >>> > those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so >>> though >>> > pertinent to this community. >>> > >>> > I've come from a non-looping or very little efx >>> manipulation/enhancement >>> > world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in >>> the >>> > last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in >>> Chinapainting >>> > though the interest in the enhancing goes way back. I am very >>> interested in >>> > utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both solo >>> and >>> > with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape >>> loops. >>> > I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just improvising on >>> a >>> > sequence. I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but though >>> clearly >>> > many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is still out >>> on >>> > them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius live. >>> Too I >>> > don't have any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys >>> > presently. >>> > >>> > Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do >>> appreciate >>> > all the input and any future thoughts. >>> > >>> > Best >>> > >>> > Jim >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> Chinapainting - >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Chinapainting on My Space - >> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - >> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >> Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel >> Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM >> >> > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_32096_14025446.1215788390804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Jeff thanks again for the info on this, took a look at MH demo and am impressed. I found a couple on eBay one that appears to be some sort of 'factory second' deal but the comments are very mixed.  anyhow it does look great, much better than the JM and another $100 for what it will do which is a lot.  I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us [chinapainting] at Y2k last year, Saturday evening?  There was a Jeff but I may have you mixed up.  Regardless thx re the info.
 
jim

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff thanks that's kind of what I was hoping or hoping not to hear as I was leaning towards the JM.  Having to save before recording the next pass would yes be a drag in how I'm hoping to work, but hence maybe why they give you so much storage the idea of having a lot of pre recorded stuff.  Maybe this is a given I should have surmized but appreciate you point out.
 
The 2880 looks amazing a tad rich for my blood right now though 'penny wise pound foolish...'  will ponder.
 
thanks to all for the input on this quest
 
jim
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Jeff Duke <echohead@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I think that I could use the Jamman if only you didn't have to stop it and save  before recording the next loop.
This makes it difficult to improvise. The Jammer seems to be set up for pre making songs or phrases to play along with. Lack of feedback is another major stopper for me.
I love my EH 2880, although you can only do one long (up to 30 min stereo) loop per 1 gig card. Feedback, reverse, half speed and 4 tracks make it very fun to use. Combined with a dd 20 and a dl4 is even better,heh.
 
peace
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work

Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful.  I have thought several times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I have but at the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the Digitech.  The Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of saving work though realize I could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce it to computer or whatever to capture.
 
Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston...
 
Jim

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim,

The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes in
sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their
sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next month,
when you and Daryl visit Boston).

As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely
(though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the
Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback and
100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away ...
downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you can
kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun
starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but that's a
tale for another day ... )

I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first DD-20 ...
the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage
capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, I
just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use
... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part.

Best,

Dennis


On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rainer/Saajak thanks so much.  I really didn't provide enough info so I can
> see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought about.  My
> attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping technique/interest plus in
> a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either need it for
> live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home sessions
> hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage though
> not imperative is attractive.  What I was more hoping to know was any
> negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type things.
> The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono out
> which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a second out
> akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not true
> stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess
> doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out.  I may be mistaken
> but don't think I've seen that on the J or B.  I had thought about the MMwH
> but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said.
>
> The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation and
> possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in their
> ruggedness.  That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment.  I always get a
> rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting various
> pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"!
>
> I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping that you
> might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have sent
> those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so though
> pertinent to this community.
>
> I've come from a non-looping or very little efx manipulation/enhancement
> world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in the
> last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in Chinapainting
> though the interest in the enhancing goes way back.  I am very interested in
> utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both solo and
> with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape loops.
> I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just improvising on a
> sequence.  I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but though clearly
> many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is still out on
> them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius live.  Too I
> don't have any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys
> presently.
>
> Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do appreciate
> all the input and any future thoughts.
>
> Best
>
> Jim




--
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MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com 
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http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
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http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
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Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_32096_14025446.1215788390804-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 11 15:29:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F0F23BE86; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1215790198; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=nxhMyWnM31CwRnukJof//0P+TrE=; b=VdF7r5Hjf0y1cwKIeH/JIR9TgKghF4wo0+aENHISb3mzxw1zn8Efrb9ym+d4Bqf6 BFvsfy5HWyGK8St6QfaQTUkYgXAezzMjpRVuJQ30trOzkXBpZEFtAN5rgeugnWu4; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=66GQ-j6TMGcA:10 a=jRH9K6SCtW0A:10 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=DPgOdzIHAAAA:8 a=KCVmX8HyAAAA:8 a=s9ThSRKNAAAA:8 a=xAEii7aeAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=riZI4WGtKJA13f3Rp18A:9 a=RxwzkL5iX06fG0bG9B4A:7 a=7-14I-vNanKl81GsLw_JXoi8ScYA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=6-x43y6uxGMA:10 a=uR1mOEN37Nbcu3oi7XQA:9 a=w3_7sxauvYHn8PGtIdsA:7 a=VnEsFoN_dtOf3TcA4y851VcpvdUA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001501c8e373$5bcc77d0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60807100851m43d0987asace2686446ad999b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807110759m5a5c2befvd99c2cfb0bce7956@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:29:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C8E349.72167010" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:29:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C8E349.72167010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No Jim I'm not that Jeff, You did mean the Electro Harmonix 2880 demo = right. Oh and don't forget the optional=20 (read necessary) footswitch. The demo doesn't go into using it in a non = quantized delay looper mode but it also is great for that. the other Jeff, lol ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work Jeff thanks again for the info on this, took a look at MH demo and am = impressed. I found a couple on eBay one that appears to be some sort of = 'factory second' deal but the comments are very mixed. anyhow it does = look great, much better than the JM and another $100 for what it will do = which is a lot. I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after = us [chinapainting] at Y2k last year, Saturday evening? There was a Jeff = but I may have you mixed up. Regardless thx re the info. jim On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Jim Goodin = wrote: Jeff thanks that's kind of what I was hoping or hoping not to hear = as I was leaning towards the JM. Having to save before recording the = next pass would yes be a drag in how I'm hoping to work, but hence maybe = why they give you so much storage the idea of having a lot of pre = recorded stuff. Maybe this is a given I should have surmized but = appreciate you point out. The 2880 looks amazing a tad rich for my blood right now though = 'penny wise pound foolish...' will ponder. thanks to all for the input on this quest jim On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: I think that I could use the Jamman if only you didn't have to = stop it and save before recording the next loop. This makes it difficult to improvise. The Jammer seems to be set = up for pre making songs or phrases to play along with. Lack of feedback = is another major stopper for me.=20 I love my EH 2880, although you can only do one long (up to 30 min = stereo) loop per 1 gig card. Feedback, reverse, half speed and 4 tracks = make it very fun to use. Combined with a dd 20 and a dl4 is even = better,heh. peace ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful. I have thought = several times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I = have but at the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the = Digitech. The Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of saving work = though realize I could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce it = to computer or whatever to capture. Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston... Jim On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser = wrote: Jim, The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes = in sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next = month, when you and Daryl visit Boston). As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather = nicely (though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% = feedback and 100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away = ... downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you = can kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The = real fun starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but = that's a tale for another day ... ) I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first = DD-20 ... the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some = reason, I just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and = Jammamn use ... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the = most part. Best, Dennis On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin wrote: > > Rainer/Saajak thanks so much. I really didn't provide = enough info so I can > see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've = thought about. My > attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping = technique/interest plus in > a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I = either need it for > live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for = home sessions > hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the = storage though > not imperative is attractive. What I was more hoping to = know was any > negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" = type things. > The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to = be mono out > which in an instrument input situation I can understand = though a second out > akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using = though not true > stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the = feed (guess > doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out. I = may be mistaken > but don't think I've seen that on the J or B. I had thought = about the MMwH > but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said. > > The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as = reputation and > possibly durability though I think that Digitech is = reasonable in their > ruggedness. That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment. = I always get a > rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are = blasting various > pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"! > > I realize too my music examples had very little to do with = looping that you > might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I = should have sent > those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious = improv's so though > pertinent to this community. > > I've come from a non-looping or very little efx = manipulation/enhancement > world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've = done in the > last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in = Chinapainting > though the interest in the enhancing goes way back. I am = very interested in > utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work = both solo and > with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of = his tape loops. > I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just = improvising on a > sequence. I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know = but though clearly > many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury = is still out on > them in a live setting though I've come close to using = Mobius live. Too I > don't have any external controller for Mobius just using = mouse/keys > presently. > > Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I = do appreciate > all the input and any future thoughts. > > Best > > Jim --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published = by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 = 6:50 AM --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel = Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com=20 --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel = Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com=20 No virus found in this incoming message. 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No Jim I'm not that Jeff, You did mean=20 the Electro Harmonix 2880 demo right. Oh and don't forget the = optional=20
(read necessary) footswitch. The demo doesn't go into using it in a non = quantized delay=20 looper mode but it also is great for that.
 
the other Jeff, lol
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 = 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Jamman v=20 Boss/self-promotion/new work

Jeff thanks again for the info on this, took a look at MH demo = and am=20 impressed. I found a couple on eBay one that appears to be some sort = of=20 'factory second' deal but the comments are very mixed.  anyhow it = does=20 look great, much better than the JM and another $100 for what it will = do which=20 is a lot.  I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after = us=20 [chinapainting] at Y2k last year, Saturday evening?  There was a = Jeff but=20 I may have you mixed up.  Regardless thx re the info.
 
jim

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Jim Goodin = <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>= =20 wrote:
Jeff thanks that's kind of what I was hoping or hoping not to = hear as I=20 was leaning towards the JM.  Having to save before recording = the next=20 pass would yes be a drag in how I'm hoping to work, but hence maybe = why they=20 give you so much storage the idea of having a lot of pre recorded=20 stuff.  Maybe this is a given I should have surmized but = appreciate you=20 point out.
 
The 2880 looks amazing a tad rich for my blood right now though = 'penny=20 wise pound foolish...'  will ponder.
 
thanks to all for the input on this quest
 
jim
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Jeff Duke = <echohead@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I think that I could use the = Jamman if only=20 you didn't have to stop it and save  before recording the = next=20 loop.
This makes it difficult to = improvise. The=20 Jammer seems to be set up for pre making songs or phrases to play = along=20 with. Lack of feedback is another major stopper for me. =
I love my EH 2880, although you = can only do=20 one long (up to 30 min stereo) loop per 1 gig card. Feedback, = reverse,=20 half speed and 4 tracks make it very fun to use. Combined with a = dd 20 and=20 a dl4 is even better,heh.
 
peace
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From: Jim Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, = 2008 2:32=20 PM
Subject: Re: Jamman v=20 Boss/self-promotion/new work

Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful.  I = have=20 thought several times about the dd20 initially when I got the = Digitech=20 delay I have but at the time 100 was easier to come up with than = 200 so=20 did the Digitech.  The Jamman is calling me a bit for the = option of=20 saving work though realize I could analog out of any of the Boss = units=20 and bounce it to computer or whatever to capture.
 
Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in = Boston...
 
Jim

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis = Moser=20 <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim,

The=20 DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes=20 in
sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for=20 their
sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will = see next=20 month,
when you and Daryl visit Boston).

As for = layering,=20 the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely
(though = one could=20 ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the
Sound-On-Sound = aspect as=20 well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback and
100% level = gives you a=20 23-second loop that you can layer away ...
downside is that = there=20 is no undo. If you set it up right, you can
kick it over to = do=20 reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun
starts = with two of=20 them set at different loop lengths, but that's a
tale for = another=20 day ... )

I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to = buy my=20 first DD-20 ...
the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the = outrageous storage
capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, = even for=20 me. For some reason, I
just can't get into the model that = the=20 RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use
... the DD-20's have done what = I=20 needed them to do for the most part.

Best,

Dennis


On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:
>
>=20 Rainer/Saajak thanks so much.  I really didn't provide = enough=20 info so I can
> see the encouragement for the GigaDelay = pedal=20 which I've thought about.  My
> attraction to the = Jamman is=20 to broaden my looping technique/interest plus in
> a = sense have=20 a portable recorder to capture things when I either need it=20 for
> live or don't want to pull out some other equip = such as=20 for home sessions
> hence the Jamman's attraction for = that plus=20 for looping the storage though
> not imperative is = attractive.=20  What I was more hoping to know was any
> negatives = people=20 had run into or technical glitches "design" type = things.
> The=20 only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be = mono=20 out
> which in an instrument input situation I can = understand=20 though a second out
> akin to the Digitech X series = Delay pedal=20 I've been using though not true
> stereo I don't think = still is=20 nice in that it doubles the feed (guess
> doubles the = noise as=20 well) but gives the parallel out.  I may be = mistaken
> but=20 don't think I've seen that on the J or B.  I had thought = about=20 the MMwH
> but the JM storage is attractive on several = levels as=20 said.
>
> The Boss interest is about some less = investment=20 as well as reputation and
> possibly durability though I = think=20 that Digitech is reasonable in their
> ruggedness. =  That=20 said I'm not overly abusive to equipment.  I always get = a
>=20 rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are = blasting=20 various
> pedals for not holding up to their=20 "stomps"!
>
> I realize too my music examples had = very=20 little to do with looping that you
> might sense the = interest in=20 the JM or Boss and possibly I should have sent
> those = sep as OT=20 but still they were stream of conscious improv's so = though
>=20 pertinent to this community.
>
> I've come from a=20 non-looping or very little efx = manipulation/enhancement
> world=20 in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in = the
> last two years largely from the collaboration with = Daryl=20 in Chinapainting
> though the interest in the enhancing = goes way=20 back.  I am very interested in
> utilizing more = technology=20 and looping to a degree in my work both solo and
> with = Daryl=20 though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape = loops.
>=20 I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just = improvising=20 on a
> sequence.  I have dabbled with Mobius as = many of you=20 know but though clearly
> many of you are quite = successful with=20 live laptops my jury is still out on
> them in a live = setting=20 though I've come close to using Mobius live.  Too = I
> don't=20 have any external controller for Mobius just using = mouse/keys
>=20 presently.
>
> Anyhow I should have clarified = better and=20 sorry for that, I do appreciate
> all the input and any = future=20 thoughts.
>
> Best
>
>=20 Jim




--=20
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace = (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapaintin= g=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting = on=20 My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The = Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim = Goodin uses=20 GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is = published=20 by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com = 
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MySpace (solo) = - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapaintin= g=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting = on My=20 Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The = Jim=20 Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin = uses GHS=20 Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - = http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is = published by=20 Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com=20



-- =
The Acoustic=20 World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= BR>MySpace=20 (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jim= goodinmusic
Chinapainting=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.= com
Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
http://www.myspace= .com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /A>=20
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull=20 Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= Jim=20 Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com 
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C8E349.72167010-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 11 15:58:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E4A53BE88; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMupMmGmJtg== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Ninjam Jam Anyone? Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:58:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: AcjikvOYbgK2VbW8R7qT12Dl5prgsQA29QRw In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: <3Mu5X.A.COD.XM4dIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:58:15 +0000 (UTC) As always, count me in! Thanks, Rainer (organizer of the kybermusik series) > >> Having had such a good time when using NinJam I wondered > if some of > >> us on this list could have some fun with it on a kind of scheduled > >> basis. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 11 16:23:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B0E63BE95; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=CSVMbtGTBhoxLRxbeUCFloUarnS7woFWIQVDQ5yVIKc=; b=M8tf1vGBhlrC98BmQkWLebN8jrlhY+GGHrEQ1sL4ep/dp4Pne7+QhGEj/58VOV5dxO BjxAEus677YRct/PWFqxA5lFQeuFU8GRwiaX+ZsxPsi111ibA3ChGv/oiayX7ORi4jUf cIas7EZke8dN8Fk+teogKXdvATWTWkBH1g52w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Kd5sr1uTDxJA3ITBlAx9Q+4+m8K/5wZEnzT2Kk/VFjplrvTHsaOaNbyS+PI6YOWR02 7G5BQWL1Alo+ANNajOyw0dPL0e5w29zCoHm/mLkj+4p6t1Ya+1Q5gnZfAURPIoDGLYMu Vep7P7O+rDCJ5v4UWULqdhxC/xFsCfxUV9uE4= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807110923m248329b2w2874a51a5308ce6c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:23:11 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work In-Reply-To: <001501c8e373$5bcc77d0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33594_16789616.1215793391168" References: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60807100851m43d0987asace2686446ad999b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807110759m5a5c2befvd99c2cfb0bce7956@mail.gmail.com> <001501c8e373$5bcc77d0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: <2GNYFC.A.ArD.1j4dIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_33594_16789616.1215793391168 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline my confusion. yeah I meant the demo on their homepage, http://www.ehx.com/2008/. Thanks for pointing out the pluses in this... On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > No Jim I'm not that Jeff, You did mean the Electro Harmonix 2880 demo > right. Oh and don't forget the optional > (read necessary) footswitch. The demo doesn't go into using it in a non > quantized delay looper mode but it also is great for that. > > the other Jeff, lol > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Friday, July 11, 2008 9:59 AM > *Subject:* Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work > > Jeff thanks again for the info on this, took a look at MH demo and am > impressed. I found a couple on eBay one that appears to be some sort of > 'factory second' deal but the comments are very mixed. anyhow it does look > great, much better than the JM and another $100 for what it will do which is > a lot. I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us > [chinapainting] at Y2k last year, Saturday evening? There was a Jeff but I > may have you mixed up. Regardless thx re the info. > > jim > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Jim Goodin > wrote: > >> Jeff thanks that's kind of what I was hoping or hoping not to hear as I >> was leaning towards the JM. Having to save before recording the next pass >> would yes be a drag in how I'm hoping to work, but hence maybe why they give >> you so much storage the idea of having a lot of pre recorded stuff. Maybe >> this is a given I should have surmized but appreciate you point out. >> >> The 2880 looks amazing a tad rich for my blood right now though 'penny >> wise pound foolish...' will ponder. >> >> thanks to all for the input on this quest >> >> jim >> >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Jeff Duke >> wrote: >> >>> I think that I could use the Jamman if only you didn't have to stop it >>> and save before recording the next loop. >>> This makes it difficult to improvise. The Jammer seems to be set up for >>> pre making songs or phrases to play along with. Lack of feedback is another >>> major stopper for me. >>> I love my EH 2880, although you can only do one long (up to 30 min >>> stereo) loop per 1 gig card. Feedback, reverse, half speed and 4 tracks make >>> it very fun to use. Combined with a dd 20 and a dl4 is even better,heh. >>> >>> peace >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Jim Goodin >>> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:32 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work >>> >>> Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful. I have thought several >>> times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I have but at >>> the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the Digitech. The >>> Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of saving work though realize I >>> could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce it to computer or >>> whatever to capture. >>> >>> Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston... >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim, >>>> >>>> The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes in >>>> sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their >>>> sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next month, >>>> when you and Daryl visit Boston). >>>> >>>> As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely >>>> (though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the >>>> Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback and >>>> 100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away ... >>>> downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you can >>>> kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun >>>> starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but that's a >>>> tale for another day ... ) >>>> >>>> I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first DD-20 ... >>>> the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage >>>> capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, I >>>> just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use >>>> ... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Rainer/Saajak thanks so much. I really didn't provide enough info so >>>> I can >>>> > see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought >>>> about. My >>>> > attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping technique/interest >>>> plus in >>>> > a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either need >>>> it for >>>> > live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home >>>> sessions >>>> > hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage >>>> though >>>> > not imperative is attractive. What I was more hoping to know was any >>>> > negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type >>>> things. >>>> > The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono >>>> out >>>> > which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a >>>> second out >>>> > akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not >>>> true >>>> > stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess >>>> > doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out. I may be >>>> mistaken >>>> > but don't think I've seen that on the J or B. I had thought about the >>>> MMwH >>>> > but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said. >>>> > >>>> > The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation >>>> and >>>> > possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in >>>> their >>>> > ruggedness. That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment. I always >>>> get a >>>> > rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting >>>> various >>>> > pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"! >>>> > >>>> > I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping >>>> that you >>>> > might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have >>>> sent >>>> > those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so >>>> though >>>> > pertinent to this community. >>>> > >>>> > I've come from a non-looping or very little efx >>>> manipulation/enhancement >>>> > world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in >>>> the >>>> > last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in >>>> Chinapainting >>>> > though the interest in the enhancing goes way back. I am very >>>> interested in >>>> > utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both solo >>>> and >>>> > with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape >>>> loops. >>>> > I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just improvising >>>> on a >>>> > sequence. I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but though >>>> clearly >>>> > many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is still >>>> out on >>>> > them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius live. >>>> Too I >>>> > don't have any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys >>>> > presently. >>>> > >>>> > Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do >>>> appreciate >>>> > all the input and any future thoughts. >>>> > >>>> > Best >>>> > >>>> > Jim >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >>> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >>> Chinapainting - >>> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>> Chinapainting on My Space - >>> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >>> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - >>> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >>> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >>> Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel >>> Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1542 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:50 AM >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> Chinapainting - >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Chinapainting on My Space - >> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - >> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >> Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel >> Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com >> > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1546 - Release Date: 7/11/2008 6:47 AM > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_33594_16789616.1215793391168 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
my confusion.  yeah I meant the demo on their homepage, http://www.ehx.com/2008/.  Thanks for pointing out the pluses in this...

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Jeff Duke <echohead@embarqmail.com> wrote:
No Jim I'm not that Jeff, You did mean the Electro Harmonix 2880 demo right. Oh and don't forget the optional
(read necessary) footswitch. The demo doesn't go into using it in a non quantized delay looper mode but it also is great for that.
 
the other Jeff, lol
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work

Jeff thanks again for the info on this, took a look at MH demo and am impressed. I found a couple on eBay one that appears to be some sort of 'factory second' deal but the comments are very mixed.  anyhow it does look great, much better than the JM and another $100 for what it will do which is a lot.  I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us [chinapainting] at Y2k last year, Saturday evening?  There was a Jeff but I may have you mixed up.  Regardless thx re the info.
 
jim

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff thanks that's kind of what I was hoping or hoping not to hear as I was leaning towards the JM.  Having to save before recording the next pass would yes be a drag in how I'm hoping to work, but hence maybe why they give you so much storage the idea of having a lot of pre recorded stuff.  Maybe this is a given I should have surmized but appreciate you point out.
 
The 2880 looks amazing a tad rich for my blood right now though 'penny wise pound foolish...'  will ponder.
 
thanks to all for the input on this quest
 
jim
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Jeff Duke <echohead@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I think that I could use the Jamman if only you didn't have to stop it and save  before recording the next loop.
This makes it difficult to improvise. The Jammer seems to be set up for pre making songs or phrases to play along with. Lack of feedback is another major stopper for me.
I love my EH 2880, although you can only do one long (up to 30 min stereo) loop per 1 gig card. Feedback, reverse, half speed and 4 tracks make it very fun to use. Combined with a dd 20 and a dl4 is even better,heh.
 
peace
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work

Dennis thanks for the details, this is helpful.  I have thought several times about the dd20 initially when I got the Digitech delay I have but at the time 100 was easier to come up with than 200 so did the Digitech.  The Jamman is calling me a bit for the option of saving work though realize I could analog out of any of the Boss units and bounce it to computer or whatever to capture.
 
Look fwd to meeting you and sharing the stage in Boston...
 
Jim

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim,

The DD-20 is a stereo pedal ... I use two of them, sometimes in
sequence, sometimes in parallel. I can also vouch for their
sturdiness, as mine are in constant use (as you will see next month,
when you and Daryl visit Boston).

As for layering, the 23-second delay allows for that rather nicely
(though one could ALWAYS ask for more) and there is also the
Sound-On-Sound aspect as well. Setting the DD-20 to 100% feedback and
100% level gives you a 23-second loop that you can layer away ...
downside is that there is no undo. If you set it up right, you can
kick it over to do reverse with what you've recorded. (The real fun
starts with two of them set at different loop lengths, but that's a
tale for another day ... )

I actually owned a Jamman and took it back to buy my first DD-20 ...
the only pluses I saw to the Jamman was the outrageous storage
capacity ... 6 hours is a long time, even for me. For some reason, I
just can't get into the model that the RC-20, RC-50 and Jammamn use
... the DD-20's have done what I needed them to do for the most part.

Best,

Dennis


On 7/9/08, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rainer/Saajak thanks so much.  I really didn't provide enough info so I can
> see the encouragement for the GigaDelay pedal which I've thought about.  My
> attraction to the Jamman is to broaden my looping technique/interest plus in
> a sense have a portable recorder to capture things when I either need it for
> live or don't want to pull out some other equip such as for home sessions
> hence the Jamman's attraction for that plus for looping the storage though
> not imperative is attractive.  What I was more hoping to know was any
> negatives people had run into or technical glitches "design" type things.
> The only limitation on both pedals I see is that it seems to be mono out
> which in an instrument input situation I can understand though a second out
> akin to the Digitech X series Delay pedal I've been using though not true
> stereo I don't think still is nice in that it doubles the feed (guess
> doubles the noise as well) but gives the parallel out.  I may be mistaken
> but don't think I've seen that on the J or B.  I had thought about the MMwH
> but the JM storage is attractive on several levels as said.
>
> The Boss interest is about some less investment as well as reputation and
> possibly durability though I think that Digitech is reasonable in their
> ruggedness.  That said I'm not overly abusive to equipment.  I always get a
> rise out of the user reviews on MusiciansFriend who are blasting various
> pedals for not holding up to their "stomps"!
>
> I realize too my music examples had very little to do with looping that you
> might sense the interest in the JM or Boss and possibly I should have sent
> those sep as OT but still they were stream of conscious improv's so though
> pertinent to this community.
>
> I've come from a non-looping or very little efx manipulation/enhancement
> world in my main experience except for the dabling that I've done in the
> last two years largely from the collaboration with Daryl in Chinapainting
> though the interest in the enhancing goes way back.  I am very interested in
> utilizing more technology and looping to a degree in my work both solo and
> with Daryl though in CP I don't want to get in the way of his tape loops.
> I'm very interested in layer creation as opposed to just improvising on a
> sequence.  I have dabbled with Mobius as many of you know but though clearly
> many of you are quite successful with live laptops my jury is still out on
> them in a live setting though I've come close to using Mobius live.  Too I
> don't have any external controller for Mobius just using mouse/keys
> presently.
>
> Anyhow I should have clarified better and sorry for that, I do appreciate
> all the input and any future thoughts.
>
> Best
>
> Jim




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com 
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MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com 
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
 
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1546 - Release Date: 7/11/2008 6:47 AM



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_33594_16789616.1215793391168-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 11 19:53:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C63013BE84; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004501c8e38f$d1ab92d0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:14:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8E32E.13182790" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:53:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8E32E.13182790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool. :) Actually, we've moved from a potentially OT topic to an = actually looping topic. What I sent Todd were just max pitch shifting = patches...nothing looping oriented. But anytime a looper can do = interesting pitch gymnastics, that is a good thing in my book! =20 So you think randomness makes a mess? I feel when it is harnessed = appropriately, it can be a beautiful thing. It reflects the reality of = the world, pockets of choas framed within order, the fact that we can't = control everything in life, etc. Now we're really on OT, but a while = back I would have been horrified by the idea of my computer doing things = for me randomly and not knowing what to expect. You could have called me = a "control freak", and there are a lot of us on the list, I'm sure. Now, = with my unbelievably stressful and orderly life with a corporate job, 3 = year old twins, etc, where everything is based on predicable schedules, = I look forward to playing music and relinquishing some control and = predictability. It creates a nice balance for me. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 I don't do random ...... I don't need a computer to make a mess for = me, I can do that myself. Decimal point, yes ..... you can tweek the = playback speed from 0 to 16x ..... and any amount in between. The = semitone buttons and tonal shifting options are for convenience in case = you want to shift ONLY to notes that are tonally related. In the case of building a chord for example .... you can record the = same tone to three tracks, then shift one of them by +4 semitones(a = major third) and another by +7 semitones(the fifth). =20 You can also stack while tweeking the playback speed up and down .... = the stacked audio will be smeared across the audio (meaning you alter = the record speed when you are recording and frequency shifting) ..... = you can do this with decay and have a smeared, decaying, stacking, pitch = shifted mess if you want ..... and yes, multiple tracks can be shifted by different amounts at the = same time. You can map it all to midi controls and tweek on up and = another down at the same time ..... flypaper is the stuff we had in the barn when I was a kid that hung = down from the ceiling and caught all the flys. any other questions? -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:57 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) But can you randomly change pitch, control the speed and range of = randomness (or make that random), pitch change down to the decimal point = (semi tones and smaller or linear change), and do this with multiple = pitch changes simultaneously? :) Ever heard of Fly Paper? :) Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 Flyloops can do pitch shifting too ..... there are little +1 = SEMITONE, -! SEMITONE buttons on the "tweek speed" panel. You click = that button a few times til you get it up to where you want to shift (4 = semitones, say, for a major third) and then click the loop track you = want to shift by that amount.=20 You can also click the "tonal shifting" checkbox and then turn a = midi control knob to shift the pitch only by semitones. =20 I should note that this is a frequency shifter, not a pitch shiftier = though ... so it speeds up playback. If the loops are set to sync = (default), they will repeat early to stay in time with the master. See the screenshot and interactive demo at: = http://www.flyloops.com/demo/ If you have a PC, download here: = http://www.flyloops.com/download.htm wait about a week and there should be a video on semitonal frequency = shifting on the webpage too .... I'm a bit overdue for that one. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: "todd reynolds" Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:25 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) thanks, Kris, anxiously await!=20 please just make sure I can understand your ins and outs, being the = non max expert that I am, as you know... ! t. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartung = wrote: Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just talked as well), but = I'll send you a few of my pitch patches, including one that stacks 6 = pitch shifters, and a few patches that sound very Evantidish. Kris Hey all,=20 I'm throwing this out there for our max mavens...=20 My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I need it for... = TOMORROW...=20 damn. so here is my predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to = make a pitch shifter which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful. =20 is there any one of you out there who has a max patch which will = harmonize with two additional pitches above or below the root pitch = which sounds great which you'd be willing to send me? I have to play = single notes and have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real = time.=20 thanks in advance for any support you might give.=20 and best to all. Todd --=20 In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven = Koplowitz on his work, Task Force The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. http://blog.toddreynolds.com --=20 In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven Koplowitz on = his work, Task Force The Bang on a Can Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA. http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8E32E.13182790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cool. :)  Actually, we've moved = from a=20 potentially OT topic to an actually looping topic.  What I sent = Todd were=20 just max pitch shifting patches...nothing looping oriented.  But = anytime a=20 looper can do interesting pitch gymnastics, that is a good thing in my=20 book! 
 
So you think randomness makes a = mess? =20 I feel when it is harnessed appropriately, it can be a beautiful = thing. It=20 reflects the reality of the world, pockets of choas framed within order, = the=20 fact that we can't control everything in life, etc.  Now we're = really on=20 OT, but a while back I would have been horrified by the idea of my = computer=20 doing things for me randomly and not knowing what to expect. You could = have=20 called me a "control freak", and there are a lot of us on the list, I'm = sure.=20 Now, with my unbelievably stressful and orderly life with a corporate = job, 3=20 year old twins, etc, where everything is based on predicable schedules, = I look=20 forward to playing music and relinquishing some control and=20 predictability.  It creates a nice balance for me.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
I don't do random ...... I don't need a computer to make a mess = for me, I=20 can do that myself.  Decimal point, yes ..... you can tweek the = playback=20 speed from 0 to 16x ..... and any amount in between.  The = semitone=20 buttons and tonal shifting options are for convenience in case you = want to=20 shift ONLY to notes that are tonally related.

In the case of = building a=20 chord for example .... you can record the same tone to three tracks, = then=20 shift one of them by +4 semitones(a major third) and another by +7=20 semitones(the fifth). 

You can also stack while tweeking = the=20 playback speed up and down .... the stacked audio will be smeared = across the=20 audio (meaning you alter the record speed when you are recording and = frequency=20 shifting) ..... you can do this with decay and have a smeared, = decaying,=20 stacking, pitch shifted mess if you want .....

and yes, = multiple tracks=20 can be shifted by different amounts at the same time.  You can = map it all=20 to midi controls and tweek on up and another down at the same time=20 .....

flypaper is the stuff we had in the barn when I was a kid = that=20 hung down from the ceiling and caught all the flys.

any other=20 questions?



From: "Krispen Hartung"=20 <khartung@cableone.net>
Sent: Thursday, July = 10,=20 2008 8:57 AM
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: = pitch=20 shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)

But can you randomly change pitch, = control the=20 speed and range of randomness (or make that random), pitch change down = to the=20 decimal point (semi tones and smaller or linear change), and do this = with=20 multiple pitch changes simultaneously? :)    Ever heard = of Fly=20 Paper? :)
 
Kris
 
-----=20 Original Message -----

Flyloops can do pitch shifting too = .....=20 there are little +1 SEMITONE, -! SEMITONE buttons on the "tweek = speed"=20 panel.  You click that button a few times til you get it up to = where=20 you want to shift (4 semitones, say, for a major third) and then = click the=20 loop track you want to shift by that amount.

You can also = click the=20 "tonal shifting" checkbox and then turn a midi control knob to shift = the=20 pitch only by semitones. 

I should note that this is a=20 frequency shifter, not a pitch shiftier though ... so it speeds up=20 playback.  If the loops are set to sync (default), they will = repeat=20 early to stay in time with the master.

See the screenshot and = interactive demo at: http://www.flyloops.com/demo/
If you have a = PC,=20 download here:  http://www.flyloops.com/download.htm

wait = about a=20 week and there should be a video on semitonal frequency shifting on = the=20 webpage too ....  I'm a bit overdue for that = one.



From: "todd reynolds"=20 <toddreyn@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July = 09,=20 2008 12:25 PM
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: = pitch=20 shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)

thanks, = Kris,=20 anxiously await! 

please just make sure I can understand = your=20 ins and outs, being the non max expert that I am, as you know...=20 !

t.



On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen = Hartung=20 <khartung@cableone.net>=20 wrote:
Todd - I know you talked to Jeff = (we just=20 talked as well), but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches, = including=20 one that stacks 6 pitch shifters, and a few patches that sound = very=20 Evantidish.
 
Kris
 

Hey=20 all,

I'm throwing this out there for our max=20 mavens... 

My Eventide will not arrive in time for a = piece I=20 need it for... TOMORROW... 

damn.

so here is = my=20 predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch = shifter=20 which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful. =  

is there=20 any one of you out there who has a max patch which will = harmonize with=20 two additional pitches above or below the root pitch which = sounds great=20 which you'd be willing to send me?  I have to play single = notes and=20 have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real=20 time. 

thanks in advance for any support you might=20 give. 

and best to = all.

Todd




--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with = artist=20 Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a = Can=20 Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com


--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with = artist Steven=20 Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can Institute = follows=20 in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8E32E.13182790-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 11 22:41:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 016DF3BE93; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_2140304367607507 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:41:55 -0500 Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: <173a34e4eac444f8a8e44e021f8c5427@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:41:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_2140304367607507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0Aha ... nice reflection. I won't differ with you on the whether= musical randomness reflects our every day experiences in some higher way .= .....=0D=0A=0D=0AInstead, I think we can agree that .....=0D=0Arandomness i= s a beautiful thing when harnessed correctly .....=0D=0A=0D=0ABut I think t= hat with any advanced looping device (say, one with multiple loops that ha= ve independent frequency controls mapped to individual midi knobs) ...... = it becomes pretty easy for the musician to generate randomness using the lo= op tool as an instrument. That being the case, I see no need to write a co= mputer function to do so ...... though getting a program to generate random= ness does a lot to drive home the whole metaphysical point of chaos(the sou= nd) out of order(the computer generating the sound) out of chaos(the world)= out of order(the world too) ... which is cool on a philosophical level. = =0D=0A=0D=0A----------------------------------------=0D=0AFrom: "Krispen Ha= rtung" =0D=0ASent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:53 AM=0D= =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: pitch shifting= and harmonizing again (emergency) =0D=0A=0D=0ACool. :) Actually, we've mo= ved from a =0D=0Apotentially OT topic to an actually looping topic. What I= sent Todd were =0D=0Ajust max pitch shifting patches...nothing looping ori= ented. But anytime a =0D=0Alooper can do interesting pitch gymnastics, tha= t is a good thing in my =0D=0Abook! =0D=0A =0D=0ASo you think randomness= makes a mess? =0D=0AI feel when it is harnessed appropriately, it can be = a beautiful thing. It =0D=0Areflects the reality of the world, pockets of c= hoas framed within order, the =0D=0Afact that we can't control everything i= n life, etc. Now we're really on =0D=0AOT, but a while back I would have b= een horrified by the idea of my computer =0D=0Adoing things for me randomly= and not knowing what to expect. You could have =0D=0Acalled me a "control = freak", and there are a lot of us on the list, I'm sure. =0D=0ANow, with my= unbelievably stressful and orderly life with a corporate job, 3 =0D=0Ayear= old twins, etc, where everything is based on predicable schedules, I look = =0D=0Aforward to playing music and relinquishing some control and =0D=0Apre= dictability. It creates a nice balance for me. =0D=0A =0D=0AKris =0D=0A = =0D=0A=0D=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0D=0A I don't do random ......= I don't need a computer to make a mess for me, I =0D=0A can do that mysel= f. Decimal point, yes ..... you can tweek the playback =0D=0A speed from = 0 to 16x ..... and any amount in between. The semitone =0D=0A buttons and= tonal shifting options are for convenience in case you want to =0D=0A shi= ft ONLY to notes that are tonally related.=0D=0A=0D=0AIn the case of buildi= ng a =0D=0A chord for example .... you can record the same tone to three t= racks, then =0D=0A shift one of them by +4 semitones(a major third) and an= other by +7 =0D=0A semitones(the fifth). =0D=0A=0D=0AYou can also stack w= hile tweeking the =0D=0A playback speed up and down .... the stacked audio= will be smeared across the =0D=0A audio (meaning you alter the record spe= ed when you are recording and frequency =0D=0A shifting) ..... you can do = this with decay and have a smeared, decaying, =0D=0A stacking, pitch shift= ed mess if you want .....=0D=0A=0D=0Aand yes, multiple tracks =0D=0A can b= e shifted by different amounts at the same time. You can map it all =0D=0A= to midi controls and tweek on up and another down at the same time =0D=0A= .....=0D=0A=0D=0Aflypaper is the stuff we had in the barn when I was a ki= d that =0D=0A hung down from the ceiling and caught all the flys.=0D=0A=0D= =0Aany other =0D=0A questions?=0D=0A=0D=0A--------------------------------= --------=0D=0A=0D=0A From: "Krispen Hartung" =0D=0A =0D=0ASent: Thursday, July 10, =0D=0A 2008 8:57 AM=0D=0ATo: =0D=0A Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: pitch =0D=0A shifting an= d harmonizing again (emergency) =0D=0A=0D=0A But can you randomly change p= itch, control the =0D=0A speed and range of randomness (or make that rando= m), pitch change down to the =0D=0A decimal point (semi tones and smaller = or linear change), and do this with =0D=0A multiple pitch changes simultan= eously? :) Ever heard of Fly =0D=0A Paper? :) =0D=0A =0D=0A Kris = =0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A ----- =0D=0A Original Message ----- =0D=0A=0D= =0AFlyloops can do pitch shifting too ..... =0D=0A there are little +1 S= EMITONE, -! SEMITONE buttons on the "tweek speed" =0D=0A panel. You cli= ck that button a few times til you get it up to where =0D=0A you want to= shift (4 semitones, say, for a major third) and then click the =0D=0A l= oop track you want to shift by that amount. =0D=0A=0D=0AYou can also click = the =0D=0A "tonal shifting" checkbox and then turn a midi control knob t= o shift the =0D=0A pitch only by semitones. =0D=0A=0D=0AI should note t= hat this is a =0D=0A frequency shifter, not a pitch shiftier though ... = so it speeds up =0D=0A playback. If the loops are set to sync (default)= , they will repeat =0D=0A early to stay in time with the master.=0D=0A= =0D=0ASee the screenshot and =0D=0A interactive demo at: http://www.flyl= oops.com/demo/=0D=0AIf you have a PC, =0D=0A download here: http://www.= flyloops.com/download.htm=0D=0A=0D=0Await about a =0D=0A week and there = should be a video on semitonal frequency shifting on the =0D=0A webpage = too .... I'm a bit overdue for that one.=0D=0A=0D=0A----------------------= ------------------=0D=0A=0D=0A From: "todd reynolds" =0D=0A =0D=0ASent: Wednesday, July 09, =0D=0A 2008 12:25 PM=0D=0ATo:= =0D=0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: pitch =0D= =0A shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) =0D=0A=0D=0Athanks, Kris,= =0D=0A anxiously await! =0D=0A=0D=0Aplease just make sure I can underst= and your =0D=0A ins and outs, being the non max expert that I am, as you= know... =0D=0A !=0D=0A=0D=0At.=0D=0A=0D=0A On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:= 45 AM, Krispen Hartung =0D=0A =0D=0A wrote:= =0D=0A=0D=0A Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just =0D=0A tal= ked as well), but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches, including =0D=0A= one that stacks 6 pitch shifters, and a few patches that sound very = =0D=0A Evantidish. =0D=0A =0D=0A Kris =0D=0A=0D=0A = =0D=0A=0D=0A Hey =0D=0A all, =0D=0A=0D=0AI'm throwing this out = there for our max =0D=0A mavens... =0D=0A=0D=0AMy Eventide will not = arrive in time for a piece I =0D=0A need it for... TOMORROW... =0D= =0A=0D=0Adamn.=0D=0A=0D=0Aso here is my =0D=0A predicament... Last t= ime I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shifter =0D=0A which sound= ed good, I was entirely unsuccessful. =0D=0A=0D=0Ais there =0D=0A a= ny one of you out there who has a max patch which will harmonize with =0D= =0A two additional pitches above or below the root pitch which sound= s great =0D=0A which you'd be willing to send me? I have to play si= ngle notes and =0D=0A have it track well enough to sound like a chor= d in real =0D=0A time. =0D=0A=0D=0Athanks in advance for any support= you might =0D=0A give. =0D=0A=0D=0Aand best to all.=0D=0A=0D=0ATodd= =0D=0A=0D=0A-- =0D=0AIn LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist =0D= =0A Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force=0D=0A=0D=0AThe Bang on = a Can =0D=0A Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.=0D=0A=0D= =0Ahttp://blog.toddreynolds.com=0D=0A=0D=0A-- =0D=0AIn LA June 15-July 7th = collaborating with artist Steven =0D=0A Koplowitz on his work, Task Forc= e=0D=0A=0D=0AThe Bang on a Can Institute follows =0D=0A in North Adams a= t MassMoCA.=0D=0A=0D=0Ahttp://blog.toddreynolds.com=0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_2140304367607507 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

ha ... nice reflection.  I won't differ with you on the whethe= r musical randomness reflects our every day experiences in some higher way = ......

Instead, I think we can agree that .....
randomness is a b= eautiful thing when harnessed correctly .....

But I think that with = any advanced looping device  (say, one with multiple loops that have i= ndependent frequency controls mapped to individual midi knobs)  ......= it becomes pretty easy for the musician to generate randomness using the l= oop tool as an instrument.  That being the case, I see no need to writ= e a computer function to do so ...... though getting a program to generate = randomness does a lot to drive home the whole metaphysical point of chaos(t= he sound) out of order(the computer generating the sound) out of chaos(the = world) out of order(the world too) ... which is cool on a philosophical lev= el.



From: "Krispen= Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
Sent: Friday, J= uly 11, 2008 11:53 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com
Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing agai= n (emergency)

=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A
Cool. :)  Actually, we've moved from a =0D=0Apot= entially OT topic to an actually looping topic.  What I sent Todd were= =0D=0Ajust max pitch shifting patches...nothing looping oriented.  Bu= t anytime a =0D=0Alooper can do interesting pitch gymnastics, that is a goo= d thing in my =0D=0Abook! 
=0D=0A
 
=0D=0A
= So you think randomness makes a mess?  =0D=0AI feel when it is ha= rnessed appropriately, it can be a beautiful thing. It =0D=0Areflects the r= eality of the world, pockets of choas framed within order, the =0D=0Afact t= hat we can't control everything in life, etc.  Now we're really on =0D= =0AOT, but a while back I would have been horrified by the idea of my compu= ter =0D=0Adoing things for me randomly and not knowing what to expect. You = could have =0D=0Acalled me a "control freak", and there are a lot of us on = the list, I'm sure. =0D=0ANow, with my unbelievably stressful and orderly l= ife with a corporate job, 3 =0D=0Ayear old twins, etc, where everything is = based on predicable schedules, I look =0D=0Aforward to playing music and re= linquishing some control and =0D=0Apredictability.  It creates a nice = balance for me.
=0D=0A
 
=0D=0A
Kris
= =0D=0A
 
=0D=0A=0D=0A
----- Original Message -----
=0D=0A
I don't d= o random ...... I don't need a computer to make a mess for me, I =0D=0A ca= n do that myself.  Decimal point, yes ..... you can tweek the playback= =0D=0A speed from 0 to 16x ..... and any amount in between.  The sem= itone =0D=0A buttons and tonal shifting options are for convenience in cas= e you want to =0D=0A shift ONLY to notes that are tonally related.

= In the case of building a =0D=0A chord for example .... you can record the= same tone to three tracks, then =0D=0A shift one of them by +4 semitones(= a major third) and another by +7 =0D=0A semitones(the fifth). 
You can also stack while tweeking the =0D=0A playback speed up and down = .... the stacked audio will be smeared across the =0D=0A audio (meaning yo= u alter the record speed when you are recording and frequency =0D=0A shift= ing) ..... you can do this with decay and have a smeared, decaying, =0D=0A = stacking, pitch shifted mess if you want .....

and yes, multiple tr= acks =0D=0A can be shifted by different amounts at the same time.  Yo= u can map it all =0D=0A to midi controls and tweek on up and another down = at the same time =0D=0A .....

flypaper is the stuff we had in the b= arn when I was a kid that =0D=0A hung down from the ceiling and caught all= the flys.

any other =0D=0A questions?



=0D=0A
=0D=0A From: "Krispen Hartung" =0D=0A = <khartung@cableone.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 10,= =0D=0A 2008 8:57 AM
To: =0D=0A Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject: Re: pitch =0D=0A shifting and = harmonizing again (emergency)

=0D=0A =0D=0A =
=0D=0A
But can you randomly cha= nge pitch, control the =0D=0A speed and range of randomness (or make that = random), pitch change down to the =0D=0A decimal point (semi tones and sma= ller or linear change), and do this with =0D=0A multiple pitch changes sim= ultaneously? :)    Ever heard of Fly =0D=0A Paper? :)
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=0D= =0A
Kris
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=0D=0A
----- =0D=0A Original Message -----

Flyloops can do pi= tch shifting too ..... =0D=0A there are little +1 SEMITONE, -! SEMITONE = buttons on the "tweek speed" =0D=0A panel.  You click that button a= few times til you get it up to where =0D=0A you want to shift (4 semito= nes, say, for a major third) and then click the =0D=0A loop track you wa= nt to shift by that amount.

You can also click the =0D=0A "tonal= shifting" checkbox and then turn a midi control knob to shift the =0D=0A = pitch only by semitones. 

I should note that this is a =0D= =0A frequency shifter, not a pitch shiftier though ... so it speeds up = =0D=0A playback.  If the loops are set to sync (default), they will= repeat =0D=0A early to stay in time with the master.

See the scr= eenshot and =0D=0A interactive demo at: http://www.flyloops.com/demo/
If you hav= e a PC, =0D=0A download here:  http://www.flyloops.com/download.htm

= wait about a =0D=0A week and there should be a video on semitonal freque= ncy shifting on the =0D=0A webpage too ....  I'm a bit overdue for = that one.



=0D=0A
=0D=0A From: "todd reynolds" =0D=0A <toddreyn@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, =0D=0A 2008 12:25 PM
To: =0D=0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subj= ect: Re: pitch =0D=0A shifting and harmonizing again (emergency= )

thanks, Kris, =0D=0A anxiously await! 

pleas= e just make sure I can understand your =0D=0A ins and outs, being the no= n max expert that I am, as you know... =0D=0A !

t.


=0D=0A
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM,= Krispen Hartung =0D=0A <kha= rtung@cableone.net> =0D=0A wrote:
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Todd - I know you talke= d to Jeff (we just =0D=0A talked as well), but I'll send you a few of = my pitch patches, including =0D=0A one that stacks 6 pitch shifters, a= nd a few patches that sound very =0D=0A Evantidish.
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=0D=0A
Kri= s
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=0D=0A

=0D=0A
Hey =0D=0A all,

I= 'm throwing this out there for our max =0D=0A mavens... 
My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I =0D=0A need it fo= r... TOMORROW... 

damn.

so here is my =0D=0A pred= icament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shifter =0D=0A = which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful.  

is the= re =0D=0A any one of you out there who has a max patch which will ha= rmonize with =0D=0A two additional pitches above or below the root p= itch which sounds great =0D=0A which you'd be willing to send me? &n= bsp;I have to play single notes and =0D=0A have it track well enough= to sound like a chord in real =0D=0A time. 

thanks in a= dvance for any support you might =0D=0A give. 

and best = to all.

Todd





--
In LA June = 15-July 7th collaborating with artist =0D=0A Steven Koplowitz on his= work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can =0D=0A Institute follows = in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
=



--
In LA June = 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven =0D=0A Koplowitz on his wor= k, Task Force

The Bang on a Can Institute follows =0D=0A in North= Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com


------_SmarterMail_NextPart_2140304367607507-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 00:11:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3BCB3BE8E; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:11:33 EDT Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d29.2c23beee.35a950b5_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <9SxngB.A.MjD.6a_dIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:11:38 +0000 (UTC) --part1_d29.2c23beee.35a950b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/11/08 3:54:08 PM, khartung@cableone.net writes: > 3 year old twins > yikes!.....seems like last week.....:).....m "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) --part1_d29.2c23beee.35a950b5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 7/11/08 3:54:08 PM, khartung@cableone.net writes:


3 year old twins


yikes!.....seems like last week.....:).....m



"one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY

new groovy tunes at:
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collective.com





**************
Get the scoop on last night's hottes= t shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=3Daolmus00050000000112) --part1_d29.2c23beee.35a950b5_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 01:48:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB2ED3BE87; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_6217667563174641 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:48:51 -0500 Subject: pitch shift demo and randomness (was :Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)) From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:48:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_6217667563174641 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0AI wanted to post a demo of pitch shifting on individual vs. mul= ti tracks and also shifting the heartbeat ..... to see who else does this s= ort of thing. =0D=0A=0D=0AI have four loops here, and each on is set to pit= ch shift at the turn of a knob. Do other people do this often? I find it= a nice way to tweek the loops..... =0D=0A=0D=0ATake a listen to the track= called "pitch shift" at www.aaronleese.com=0D=0A=0D=0AAlso, I have it set = up so when I shift a loop, if it is the master, it causes the project "hear= tbeat" to speed up .... listen for the bass drum and notice how it speeds = up when the pitch shift occurs (though it does not itself change in pitch).= This is not using a midi clock, by the way ... the audio is just repeatin= g early cause it sees the heartbeat increase ...... make sense? Do other p= eople do that often? I don't think I heard much of it at Y2K7, but I misse= d plenty of performances ......=0D=0A=0D=0AThere is also some turntable-loo= pism in there, and some stuttering too ..... but you guys can pick all that= out I'm sure.=0D=0A=0D=0ANow I'm pretty sure you can do all this in Ableto= n and Mobius too, minus the turntable ... can someone confirm this though? = Perhaps with a recording?=0D=0A=0D=0A-------------------------------------= ---=0D=0AFrom: Nemoguitt@aol.com=0D=0ASent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:11 PM= =0D=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: pitch shift= ing and harmonizing again (emergency) =0D=0A=0D=0AIn a message dated 7/11/0= 8 3:54:08 PM, khartung@cableone.net writes:=0D=0A=0D=0A 3 year old twins= =0D=0A=0D=0A yikes!.....seems like last week.....:).....m=0D=0A=0D=0A"one m= an, one oat!" OAT WILLY=0D=0A=0D=0Anew groovy tunes at:=0D=0A=0D=0Ahttp://w= ww.myspace.com/klobuchar10=0D=0A=0D=0Awww.ct-collective.com=0D=0A=0D=0A****= **********=0D=0AGet the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live mu= sic scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!=0D=0A (http://www.= tourtracker.com?NCID=3Daolmus00050000000112)=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_6217667563174641 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I wanted to post a demo of pitch shifting on individual vs. multi t= racks and also shifting the heartbeat ..... to see who else does this sort = of thing.

I have four loops here, and each on is set to pitch shift= at the turn of a knob.   Do other people do this often?  I = find it a nice way to tweek the loops..... 

Take a listen to t= he track called "pitch shift" at www.aaronleese.com

Also, I have it = set up so when I shift a loop, if it is the master, it causes the project "= heartbeat" to speed up ....  listen for the bass drum and notice how i= t speeds up when the pitch shift occurs (though it does not itself change i= n pitch).  This is not using a midi clock, by the way ... the audio is= just repeating early cause it sees the heartbeat increase ...... make sens= e?  Do other people do that often?  I don't think I heard much of= it at Y2K7, but I missed plenty of performances ......

There is als= o some turntable-loopism in there, and some stuttering too ..... but you gu= ys can pick all that out I'm sure.

Now I'm pretty sure you can do al= l this in Ableton and Mobius too, minus the turntable ... can someone confi= rm this though?  Perhaps with a recording?




From: Nemoguitt@aol.com
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:11 PM
To: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: pitch shifting and = harmonizing again (emergency)

= =0D=0AIn a message dated 7/11/08 3:54:08 PM, khartung@cableone.net writes:=
=0D=0A
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3 year old t= wins
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= =0D=0A
=0D=0Ayikes!.....seems like last week.....:).....m
=0D=0A<= br>=0D=0A
=0D=0A
=0D=0A"one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY
=0D=0A
=0D= =0Anew groovy tunes at:
=0D=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
=0D= =0Awww.ct-collective.com
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
=0D=0A

=
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Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the l= ive music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!
(http://= www.tourtracker.com?NCID=3Daolmus00050000000112)
 ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_6217667563174641-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 02:53:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AED323BE8E; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_6488308150561571 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:53:52 -0500 Subject: Re: LD collaborative cantaloupe From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: <35b9a26d0e3443a09002f8af6bbdadb9@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> Resent-Message-ID: <0VQ_5C.A.Q8F.CzBeIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:53:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_6488308150561571 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0AWell cool -- sounds like a few people are interested ......=0D= =0A=0D=0AI've posted the individual loops on my site, at:=0D=0A=0D=0Awww.aa= ronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantaloop_0.wav=0D=0A=0D=0Awww.aaronleese.com= /music/cantanloop/cantaloop_1.wav=0D=0A=0D=0Awww.aaronleese.com/music/canta= nloop/cantaloop_2.wav=0D=0A=0D=0Awww.aaronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantal= oop_3.wav=0D=0A=0D=0AThe=0D=0Adrum loops are short, the chords and bass lin= e are both longer ... and=0D=0Athey are uncompresed wavs, so they do take a= few seconds to download=0D=0A......=0D=0A=0D=0AHere is a flat mix of all t= he loops together....=0D=0A=0D=0Awww.aaronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantal= oop_mixed.wav=0D=0A=0D=0Aif=0D=0Aanyone would like something different (lik= e a mix of just the drums and=0D=0Abass, say ...) just post and let me know= and I'll add that too .....=0D=0A=0D=0AOk=0D=0A...... go to it ..... feel = free to mix or adjust the loops in any way,=0D=0Aand just let me know when = you have something ... I'll stitch what=0D=0Apeople send me together and po= st the final product in a week or so=0D=0A...... =0D=0A=0D=0Ahappy looping = ----=0D=0A=0D=0AAL=0D=0A=0D=0A----------------------------------------=0D= =0AFrom: "Stephen Goodman" =0D=0ASent: Friday, Ju= ly 11, 2008 4:13 PM=0D=0ATo: aaronleese@flyloops.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: LD c= ollaborative cantaloupe =0D=0A=0D=0ASounds fun, I could do various kinds of= guitar =0D=0Aloops to go with it. :) =0D=0A =0D=0ASP Goodman =0D=0Ahttp:/= /www.earthlight.net/Studios =0D=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/spgoodman =0D=0Aht= tp://www.youtube.com/spgoodman =0D=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/enturbulata =0D= =0A =0D=0AFrom: =0D=0A "aaronleese@flyloops.com" =0D=0A =0D=0ASent: Thursday, July 10, =0D=0A 2008 10:10 AM=0D=0ATo: =0D= =0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: LD =0D=0A collabora= tive cantaloupe =0D=0A=0D=0ASo I was working with a looped =0D=0A version = of cantaloup island the other day, and it occured to me that it would =0D= =0A be really easy to send out the loop (as one or several .wav files) to = other =0D=0A loopers and get each of them to add a solo ......=0D=0A=0D=0A= I was thinking we =0D=0A could do this with five or six of us and each per= son could generate a solo =0D=0A that is one or two times through the prog= ression ...... =0D=0A=0D=0AThen send your =0D=0A work back to me and I'll = edit it all together. Sort of a quick way to =0D=0A get a collaborative w= ork together.=0D=0A=0D=0AAnyone up to it?=0D=0A=0D=0AYou can hear =0D=0A w= hat I put together yesterday at www.aaronleese.com ..... just click on =0D= =0A cantaloup island in the player. Naturally, I won't keep that much of = my =0D=0A own soloing in the collaborative work ... probably just once thr= ough the =0D=0A progression for me. The melody is in F minor, but feel f= ree to =0D=0A take the solos where-ever you like.=0D=0A=0D=0A-------------= ---------------------------=0D=0AFrom: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" =0D=0ASent: Friday, July 11, 2008 2:42 PM=0D=0ATo: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing= again (emergency) =0D=0A=0D=0Aha ... nice reflection. I won't differ with= you on the whether musical randomness reflects our every day experiences i= n some higher way ......=0D=0A=0D=0AInstead, I think we can agree that ....= .=0D=0Arandomness is a beautiful thing when harnessed correctly .....=0D=0A= =0D=0ABut I think that with any advanced looping device (say, one with mul= tiple loops that have independent frequency controls mapped to individual m= idi knobs) ...... it becomes pretty easy for the musician to generate rand= omness using the loop tool as an instrument. That being the case, I see no= need to write a computer function to do so ...... though getting a program= to generate randomness does a lot to drive home the whole metaphysical poi= nt of chaos(the sound) out of order(the computer generating the sound) out = of chaos(the world) out of order(the world too) ... which is cool on a phil= osophical level. =0D=0A=0D=0A----------------------------------------=0D=0A= From: "Krispen Hartung" =0D=0ASent: Friday, July 11,= 2008 11:53 AM=0D=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: R= e: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) =0D=0A=0D=0ACool. :) A= ctually, we've moved from a =0D=0Apotentially OT topic to an actually loopi= ng topic. What I sent Todd were =0D=0Ajust max pitch shifting patches...no= thing looping oriented. But anytime a =0D=0Alooper can do interesting pitc= h gymnastics, that is a good thing in my =0D=0Abook! =0D=0A =0D=0ASo you= think randomness makes a mess? =0D=0AI feel when it is harnessed appropri= ately, it can be a beautiful thing. It =0D=0Areflects the reality of the wo= rld, pockets of choas framed within order, the =0D=0Afact that we can't con= trol everything in life, etc. Now we're really on =0D=0AOT, but a while ba= ck I would have been horrified by the idea of my computer =0D=0Adoing thing= s for me randomly and not knowing what to expect. You could have =0D=0Acall= ed me a "control freak", and there are a lot of us on the list, I'm sure. = =0D=0ANow, with my unbelievably stressful and orderly life with a corporate= job, 3 =0D=0Ayear old twins, etc, where everything is based on predicable = schedules, I look =0D=0Aforward to playing music and relinquishing some con= trol and =0D=0Apredictability. It creates a nice balance for me. =0D=0A = =0D=0AKris =0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0D=0A I don= 't do random ...... I don't need a computer to make a mess for me, I =0D=0A= can do that myself. Decimal point, yes ..... you can tweek the playback = =0D=0A speed from 0 to 16x ..... and any amount in between. The semitone = =0D=0A buttons and tonal shifting options are for convenience in case you = want to =0D=0A shift ONLY to notes that are tonally related.=0D=0A=0D=0AIn= the case of building a =0D=0A chord for example .... you can record the s= ame tone to three tracks, then =0D=0A shift one of them by +4 semitones(a = major third) and another by +7 =0D=0A semitones(the fifth). =0D=0A=0D=0AY= ou can also stack while tweeking the =0D=0A playback speed up and down ...= . the stacked audio will be smeared across the =0D=0A audio (meaning you a= lter the record speed when you are recording and frequency =0D=0A shifting= ) ..... you can do this with decay and have a smeared, decaying, =0D=0A st= acking, pitch shifted mess if you want .....=0D=0A=0D=0Aand yes, multiple t= racks =0D=0A can be shifted by different amounts at the same time. You ca= n map it all =0D=0A to midi controls and tweek on up and another down at t= he same time =0D=0A .....=0D=0A=0D=0Aflypaper is the stuff we had in the b= arn when I was a kid that =0D=0A hung down from the ceiling and caught all= the flys.=0D=0A=0D=0Aany other =0D=0A questions?=0D=0A=0D=0A-------------= ---------------------------=0D=0A=0D=0A From: "Krispen Hartung" =0D=0A =0D=0ASent: Thursday, July 10, =0D=0A 2008 8:57 AM=0D= =0ATo: =0D=0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubject: Re: pitch = =0D=0A shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) =0D=0A=0D=0A But can yo= u randomly change pitch, control the =0D=0A speed and range of randomness = (or make that random), pitch change down to the =0D=0A decimal point (semi= tones and smaller or linear change), and do this with =0D=0A multiple pit= ch changes simultaneously? :) Ever heard of Fly =0D=0A Paper? :) =0D=0A= =0D=0A Kris =0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A ----- =0D=0A Original Message= ----- =0D=0A=0D=0AFlyloops can do pitch shifting too ..... =0D=0A there= are little +1 SEMITONE, -! SEMITONE buttons on the "tweek speed" =0D=0A = panel. You click that button a few times til you get it up to where =0D= =0A you want to shift (4 semitones, say, for a major third) and then cli= ck the =0D=0A loop track you want to shift by that amount. =0D=0A=0D=0AY= ou can also click the =0D=0A "tonal shifting" checkbox and then turn a m= idi control knob to shift the =0D=0A pitch only by semitones. =0D=0A=0D= =0AI should note that this is a =0D=0A frequency shifter, not a pitch sh= iftier though ... so it speeds up =0D=0A playback. If the loops are set= to sync (default), they will repeat =0D=0A early to stay in time with t= he master.=0D=0A=0D=0ASee the screenshot and =0D=0A interactive demo at:= http://www.flyloops.com/demo/=0D=0AIf you have a PC, =0D=0A download he= re: http://www.flyloops.com/download.htm=0D=0A=0D=0Await about a =0D=0A = week and there should be a video on semitonal frequency shifting on the = =0D=0A webpage too .... I'm a bit overdue for that one.=0D=0A=0D=0A----= ------------------------------------=0D=0A=0D=0A From: "todd reynolds" = =0D=0A =0D=0ASent: Wednesday, July 09, =0D=0A 200= 8 12:25 PM=0D=0ATo: =0D=0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASubj= ect: Re: pitch =0D=0A shifting and harmonizing again (emergency) =0D=0A= =0D=0Athanks, Kris, =0D=0A anxiously await! =0D=0A=0D=0Aplease just make= sure I can understand your =0D=0A ins and outs, being the non max exper= t that I am, as you know... =0D=0A !=0D=0A=0D=0At.=0D=0A=0D=0A On Wed= , Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartung =0D=0A = =0D=0A wrote:=0D=0A=0D=0A Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we jus= t =0D=0A talked as well), but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches,= including =0D=0A one that stacks 6 pitch shifters, and a few patches = that sound very =0D=0A Evantidish. =0D=0A =0D=0A Kris =0D= =0A=0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A Hey =0D=0A all, =0D=0A=0D=0AI'm th= rowing this out there for our max =0D=0A mavens... =0D=0A=0D=0AMy Ev= entide will not arrive in time for a piece I =0D=0A need it for... T= OMORROW... =0D=0A=0D=0Adamn.=0D=0A=0D=0Aso here is my =0D=0A predica= ment... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shifter =0D=0A = which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful. =0D=0A=0D=0Ais there = =0D=0A any one of you out there who has a max patch which will harmo= nize with =0D=0A two additional pitches above or below the root pitc= h which sounds great =0D=0A which you'd be willing to send me? I ha= ve to play single notes and =0D=0A have it track well enough to soun= d like a chord in real =0D=0A time. =0D=0A=0D=0Athanks in advance fo= r any support you might =0D=0A give. =0D=0A=0D=0Aand best to all.=0D= =0A=0D=0ATodd=0D=0A=0D=0A-- =0D=0AIn LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with= artist =0D=0A Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force=0D=0A=0D=0AT= he Bang on a Can =0D=0A Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA= .=0D=0A=0D=0Ahttp://blog.toddreynolds.com=0D=0A=0D=0A-- =0D=0AIn LA June 15= -July 7th collaborating with artist Steven =0D=0A Koplowitz on his work,= Task Force=0D=0A=0D=0AThe Bang on a Can Institute follows =0D=0A in Nor= th Adams at MassMoCA.=0D=0A=0D=0Ahttp://blog.toddreynolds.com=0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_6488308150561571 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well cool -- sounds like a few people are interested ......

= I've posted the individual loops on my site, at:

www.aaronleese.com/= music/cantanloop/cantaloop_0.wav
=0D=0Awww.aaronleese.com/music/cantanlo= op/cantaloop_1.wav
=0D=0Awww.aaronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantaloop_2= .wav
=0D=0Awww.aaronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantaloop_3.wav

Th= e=0D=0Adrum loops are short, the chords and bass line are both longer ... a= nd=0D=0Athey are uncompresed wavs, so they do take a few seconds to downloa= d=0D=0A......

Here is a flat mix of all the loops together....
= =0D=0A=0D=0Awww.aaronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantaloop_mixed.wav

= if=0D=0Aanyone would like something different (like a mix of just the drums= and=0D=0Abass, say ...) just post and let me know and I'll add that too ..= ...

Ok=0D=0A...... go to it ..... feel free to mix or adjust the loo= ps in any way,=0D=0Aand just let me know when you have something ... I'll s= titch what=0D=0Apeople send me together and post the final product in a wee= k or so=0D=0A......

happy looping ----

AL


From: "Stephen Goodman" <spgoodman@ear= thlight.net>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:13 PM
= To: aaronleese@flyloops.com
Subject: R= e: LD collaborative cantaloupe

=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A
Sounds fun,= I could do various kinds of guitar =0D=0Aloops to go with it. :)=0D=0A
 
=0D=0ASP Goodman
=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A
 
=0D=0A
From: =0D=0A "aaronleese@flyloops.com" =0D=0A <aaron= leese@flyloops.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, =0D=0A = 2008 10:10 AM
To: =0D=0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
Subject: LD =0D=0A collaborative cantaloupe



So I was working with a looped =0D=0A version of canta= loup island the other day, and it occured to me that it would =0D=0A be re= ally easy to send out the loop (as one or several .wav files) to other =0D= =0A loopers and get each of them to add a solo ......

I was thinkin= g we =0D=0A could do this with five or six of us and each person could gen= erate a solo =0D=0A that is one or two times through the progression .....= .

Then send your =0D=0A work back to me and I'll edit it all toget= her.  Sort of a quick way to =0D=0A get a collaborative work together= .

Anyone up to it?

You can hear =0D=0A what I put together y= esterday at www.aaronleese.com ..... just click on =0D=0A cantaloup island= in the player.  Naturally, I won't keep that much of my =0D=0A own s= oloing in the collaborative work ... probably just once through the =0D=0A = progression for me.  The melody is in  F minor, but feel free to= =0D=0A take the solos where-ever you like.




From: "aaronleese@flyloops.c= om" <aaronleese@flyloops.com>
Sent: Friday, July = 11, 2008 2:42 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m
Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (em= ergency)



ha ... nice reflection.  I won't differ= with you on the whether musical randomness reflects our every day experien= ces in some higher way ......

Instead, I think we can agree that ...= ..
randomness is a beautiful thing when harnessed correctly .....
But I think that with any advanced looping device  (say, one with mul= tiple loops that have independent frequency controls mapped to individual m= idi knobs)  ...... it becomes pretty easy for the musician to generate= randomness using the loop tool as an instrument.  That being the case= , I see no need to write a computer function to do so ...... though getting= a program to generate randomness does a lot to drive home the whole metaph= ysical point of chaos(the sound) out of order(the computer generating the s= ound) out of chaos(the world) out of order(the world too) ... which is cool= on a philosophical level.



= From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
S= ent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:53 AM
To: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: pitch shifti= ng and harmonizing again (emergency)

=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A= =0D=0A
Cool. :)  Actually, we've m= oved from a =0D=0Apotentially OT topic to an actually looping topic.  = What I sent Todd were =0D=0Ajust max pitch shifting patches...nothing loopi= ng oriented.  But anytime a =0D=0Alooper can do interesting pitch gymn= astics, that is a good thing in my =0D=0Abook! 
=0D=0A =0D=0A
So you think randomness makes a mess?  =0D=0AI&n= bsp;feel when it is harnessed appropriately, it can be a beautiful thing. I= t =0D=0Areflects the reality of the world, pockets of choas framed within o= rder, the =0D=0Afact that we can't control everything in life, etc.  N= ow we're really on =0D=0AOT, but a while back I would have been horrified b= y the idea of my computer =0D=0Adoing things for me randomly and not knowin= g what to expect. You could have =0D=0Acalled me a "control freak", and the= re are a lot of us on the list, I'm sure. =0D=0ANow, with my unbelievably s= tressful and orderly life with a corporate job, 3 =0D=0Ayear old twins, etc= , where everything is based on predicable schedules, I look =0D=0Aforward t= o playing music and relinquishing some control and =0D=0Apredictability.&nb= sp; It creates a nice balance for me.
=0D=0A
 
=0D=0A
Kris
=0D=0A
&= nbsp;
=0D=0A
----- Original Message ----- =0D=0A
I don't do random ...... I don't need a computer to make a m= ess for me, I =0D=0A can do that myself.  Decimal point, yes ..... yo= u can tweek the playback =0D=0A speed from 0 to 16x ..... and any amount i= n between.  The semitone =0D=0A buttons and tonal shifting options ar= e for convenience in case you want to =0D=0A shift ONLY to notes that are = tonally related.

In the case of building a =0D=0A chord for example= .... you can record the same tone to three tracks, then =0D=0A shift one = of them by +4 semitones(a major third) and another by +7 =0D=0A semitones(= the fifth). 

You can also stack while tweeking the =0D=0A pla= yback speed up and down .... the stacked audio will be smeared across the = =0D=0A audio (meaning you alter the record speed when you are recording an= d frequency =0D=0A shifting) ..... you can do this with decay and have a s= meared, decaying, =0D=0A stacking, pitch shifted mess if you want .....
and yes, multiple tracks =0D=0A can be shifted by different amounts a= t the same time.  You can map it all =0D=0A to midi controls and twee= k on up and another down at the same time =0D=0A .....

flypaper is = the stuff we had in the barn when I was a kid that =0D=0A hung down from t= he ceiling and caught all the flys.

any other =0D=0A questions?
=


=0D=0A =0D=0A From: = "Krispen Hartung" =0D=0A <khartung@cableone.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, =0D=0A 2008 8:57 AM
To: =0D= =0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: p= itch =0D=0A shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)

=0D= =0A =0D=0A
=0D=0A
But can you randomly change pitch, control the =0D=0A speed and range = of randomness (or make that random), pitch change down to the =0D=0A decim= al point (semi tones and smaller or linear change), and do this with =0D=0A= multiple pitch changes simultaneously? :)    Ever heard of= Fly =0D=0A Paper? :)
=0D=0A
 
=0D=0A
Kris=
=0D=0A
 =0D=0A
=0D= =0A
----- =0D=0A Original Message ---= --

Flyloops can do pitch shifting too ..... =0D=0A there are lit= tle +1 SEMITONE, -! SEMITONE buttons on the "tweek speed" =0D=0A panel.&= nbsp; You click that button a few times til you get it up to where =0D=0A = you want to shift (4 semitones, say, for a major third) and then click th= e =0D=0A loop track you want to shift by that amount.

You can al= so click the =0D=0A "tonal shifting" checkbox and then turn a midi contr= ol knob to shift the =0D=0A pitch only by semitones. 

I sho= uld note that this is a =0D=0A frequency shifter, not a pitch shiftier t= hough ... so it speeds up =0D=0A playback.  If the loops are set to= sync (default), they will repeat =0D=0A early to stay in time with the = master.

See the screenshot and =0D=0A interactive demo at: http://www.flyloops.c= om/demo/
If you have a PC, =0D=0A download here:  http://www.flyloops.co= m/download.htm

wait about a =0D=0A week and there should be a= video on semitonal frequency shifting on the =0D=0A webpage too ....&nb= sp; I'm a bit overdue for that one.



=0D=0A
=0D=0A From: "todd reynolds" =0D=0A <to= ddreyn@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, =0D=0A = 2008 12:25 PM
To: =0D=0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
Subject: Re: pitch =0D=0A shifting and ha= rmonizing again (emergency)

thanks, Kris, =0D=0A anxiously= await! 

please just make sure I can understand your =0D=0A = ins and outs, being the non max expert that I am, as you know... =0D=0A = !

t.



=0D=0A
On We= d, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartung =0D=0A <khartung@cableone.net> =0D=0A wrote:
= =0D=0A
=0D=0A =
=0D=0A
Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just =0D=0A talked as well), = but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches, including =0D=0A one that= stacks 6 pitch shifters, and a few patches that sound very =0D=0A Eva= ntidish.
=0D=0A
 
=0D=0A
Kris
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
=0D=0A
 
=0D=0A

= =0D=0A
Hey= =0D=0A all,

I'm throwing this out there for our max =0D=0A = mavens... 

My Eventide will not arrive in time for a pie= ce I =0D=0A need it for... TOMORROW... 

damn.

so = here is my =0D=0A predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to = make a pitch shifter =0D=0A which sounded good, I was entirely unsuc= cessful.  

is there =0D=0A any one of you out there who = has a max patch which will harmonize with =0D=0A two additional pitc= hes above or below the root pitch which sounds great =0D=0A which yo= u'd be willing to send me?  I have to play single notes and =0D=0A = have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real =0D=0A t= ime. 

thanks in advance for any support you might =0D=0A = give. 

and best to all.

Todd





--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist =0D=0A= Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can = =0D=0A Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynol= ds.com



--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Stev= en =0D=0A Koplowitz on his work, Task Force

The Bang on a Can Ins= titute follows =0D=0A in North Adams at MassMoCA.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com



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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 14:08:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1F583BE8E; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=xr/meHwaCMZ6R6klAn2PdXG4mHHQHZXi1/ppSP3RVyM=; b=v+gw5TEfFXAFLfzm/shpb+4bDsqRf9/M3+KDzV6HnhunwoG6lejEKscnzavND89bOz PKeFmFdXqiLRFMPd8d8cuPAh7LMYh9XovDxE/sU1xFNMIsAdJf31VVcJfhFhrMIOpocE RlL1dtXvWJBZBemh8v9gS3GhgnyWk6sUys/Xo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=wZ1KbtY0H0laulgWFDHP+GfNirFziUWRkzZ/+LAIfqpC6uS/RzRmts3YUC1NfmjVzz +76LWR/sjhjw4hwMYPHnTM/H9mdbgArd38s5oNtsb0B/s+Z4o3dnCS47G7LWHDwwel07 U6rbYhAqLgA69LkJhcZGmCb5AbOSg0mG5Hm2w= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:08:36 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: selling via iTunes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: d173a47a2fb9902e Resent-Message-ID: <7GztDD.A.4gC.rrLeIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi, just wondered if anyone here has any experience of getting self-released stuff up for sale on the big online outlets e.g. iTunes, Amazon etc. Any suggestions/recommendations? cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 14:25:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E45EA3BE91; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT: selling via iTunes Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:25:27 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <614x_.A.jxC.e7LeIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Os, If you sign on with CD Baby and opt for their digital distribution=20 scheme you will get your music on iTunes as well as part of the deal. Some other independent on-line music sellers may have similar schemes,=20= but (IMOHO) CD Baby's is the best. I am not so knowledgeable about Amazon - CD Baby my have a deal with=20 them too. My stuff is up there - I can only guess that they (or somebody=20 associated with) put it there since I didn't. Independents have it hard. It is sometimes useful to be part of a label with several artists -=20 making it easier to make those marketing and distribution connections. Over the years, being part of Jeff Kaiser's pfMENTUM label has been=20 very good for me too. This is certainly not an exhaustive list of your options, but they are=20= the ones I know about. Cheers, Ted At almost regular intervals down the centuries someone will hit upon an=20= idea which has some claim to truth. It is then blown up into a system=20 which is thought to be capable of explaining everything. It is hailed=20 as a key to unlock every door. In each case the thinkers concerned were=20= so impressed with their particular insight that they built it into a=20 more-or-less rigid system which virtually destroyed its original=20 usefulness. If anything is to be learnt form the history of philosophy,=20= we should be cautious in embracing one set of philosophical ideas to=20 the exclusion of all others, and critical in our evaluation of all of=20 them. Just as no single human being has exhaustive knowledge of the=20 whole of reality, but may have partial and valid insights into this or=20= that field of experience, so no philosophy is all-embracing. Its=20 insights and methods are often tentative and provisional. It may have a=20= valid apprehension of this or that. Its methods may be fruitful in=20 exploring certain particular fields. But, if we are wise, we shall be=20 on our guard against definitive systems and allegedly omnipotent=20 methods of approach. =97 Colin Brown, former Dean of Studies at Trinity=20= College, Bristol, England On Jul 12, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Os wrote: > Hi, > > just wondered if anyone here has any experience of getting > self-released stuff up for sale on the big online outlets e.g. iTunes, > Amazon etc. > > Any suggestions/recommendations? > > > cheers, > os. > > --=20 > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 14:53:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C2B53BE88; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=F5RiAF8lPopnFIDdnixOsUtF6qdA2CRqtf4VQYUdXDY=; b=nLrMOJY2dpqC30rmcrAazvKPpXXdqK+pMGnmJSNqutDHtxNE+o84hioIfEa4PD4WBx ZnHesCTxTFVygL/u7LC2MztETtQhGJ1y05/S6oMFRauVOFWC37mfvEcfkOJi8UXVwhdb q+YJTjk0ilP2aI3phZStn6j323QdHOXJ3bTqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ts+jYBbZdMgrXL3rE/Brdgow1jVtve2MT1FhIHziBQqs86D7Tb8tiFqFPJ2PSMPh5D yLMnnpyVN4IWHjAPF/CJWSkmZL2Cp71xGprB7L5ocdlV5ROw+qgWBz6TGJhAB/X3tSD3 StLqlJFdr4U8EM1f4BnjDSOoY/jwkyMMJNR6E= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807120753u6cca85dfn4dfbb59ac6f5531a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:53:49 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: selling via iTunes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:53:51 +0000 (UTC) I have been using CD Baby a lot in the past. They got my stuff up for digital sale at a lot of music web shops, including Amazon. It seems CD Baby gives a lot bang for the buck. With mt latest release - the album I did with Costas http://www.stockholm-athens.com/ - we decided to try AWAL instead. The difference is that AWAL doesn't take a fee up front but will keep 15 percent of sales where CD Baby takes a fee upfront and then keeps 9 percent and that AWAL only works with iTunes and not with all the others. One reall good thing with AWAL is that our album was released as an iTunes Plus release right from the beginning. The Plus level means people can buy it as 256 kbps AAC which is an audio fidelity that sounds just as CD quality to me. AWAL is also sending you paper printed reports quarterly, as normal record labels do. CD Baby doesn't; you simply get an e-mail and money transfered to your PayPal. I don't know yet, which is best, AWAL or CD Baby. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Os wrote: > Hi, > > just wondered if anyone here has any experience of getting > self-released stuff up for sale on the big online outlets e.g. iTunes, > Amazon etc. > > Any suggestions/recommendations? > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 15:22:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDC983BE95; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 411 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:22:26 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 581213.90708.bm@omp400.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=xwVGPMJveYDrR2Ikwu99gh0PMCaCBjNLDd6ZHQ/Vys5RCRPv/9CM+7VqW9urUuS/L75qngL0GIehvYwYN51CmVHghJyAeHFiPfh6yFRpQeWhKiU0ldklZmAEUWpyD3EFEJ2SA3bIwwbRMIzFqteEbVDSLlOz8Yqlf87pCVVsMOU=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:15:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: selling via iTunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <383857.66377.qm@web45303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, there's definitely some connection between Amazon and CD Baby, but it= may be that Amazon's affiliates are considering CD Baby as their warehouse= .. For example, I've never sent any of my CDs to Amazon, yet my stuff is for= sale there for a higher price than CD Baby. Check this out: This title is priced in a range from $13.95 to $39.99!!!!! They claim that = it's in stock and ready for shipment, but I know for sure I've never sent t= hem any, nor have they actually purchased them (yet?) from CD Baby. I'm gue= ssing they use software (Endica?) that scans CD Baby's inventory. I doubt t= hey'll sell many at that price... -t- ps: uh, if any of you actually want to buy any of my CDs, they're a LOT che= aper directly from CD Baby... --- On Sat, 7/12/08, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > I am not so knowledgeable about Amazon - CD Baby my have a > deal with=20 > them too. >=20 > My stuff is up there - I can only guess that they (or > somebody=20 > associated with) put it there since I didn't.=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 15:24:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFC143BE99; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=76Z8MDkRaPBPSLiuogLRvcKWZN5EAU7HaukjHLhzxBc=; b=YXB5oYpBUD1e4Fqn20ZLI+oaiVRnxOZfwfuOeK+dldxBaQFOOq0wsa5aV62ltUtYOy 2i+9reNHI+386XIhESXYVRQaiH3RoUb9I0fmzZg3T8yFPOCTIv84KH3SjWJa9DTxaSlG rW9gp3hhTkeb/c0EVxDG1y4y3ZQL13csn8YOc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=pSS4tWrzT7T6+tloKpU+KGZS8Br8tjsr1GJl/PYmhpk5rqS1E+2+MAIKduh26WPR+C dV8a0tBxuQ4kz9/eLLyah6vOMNA6IZyJV+2TLkdpsu7Iv3KvRTw+3IXeGB4FU6+yLSDe curZz56KzniJbNVcsNpXZQQ88fud/gUVM7J6c= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807120718s108b1392t1fc39a6ecd734cb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:18:29 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: selling via iTunes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3064_28160488.1215872309670" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:24:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3064_28160488.1215872309670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Os yes and old and recent way. My first record Celtic Journey to The Path (released in 99) I've had on CDBaby for several years so when they got the deal to distribute their artists through iTunes I got to ride. The deal they take I think a tenth of the .99 ct sale (will need to recheck that as I've forgottten). For a long story that's more of a personal frustration with CDBaby re another title I've decided to no longer use them beyond this record. I recently put my newest work Skipping the Light on Tunecore.com which their deal is a rental fee of $19.98 annually to store your audio on their server and they take upfront .99 cents a track plus .99 cents a store that you have them put it in. After that all income is yours. THere is a deal through GuitarCenter.com right now that when you register a work with Tunecore at the checkout stage enter the words 'getstarted' and you get 5 stores for free. I have several other CD's but these are the two I've got in the digital world for sale. I think Tunecore is probably the way to go but still assessing. My itunes royalties on CJTOTP have not been great I think @$100 to date as what I do is a niche market but some of that is probably about needing to promo more. Jim On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Os wrote: > Hi, > > just wondered if anyone here has any experience of getting > self-released stuff up for sale on the big online outlets e.g. iTunes, > Amazon etc. > > Any suggestions/recommendations? > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_3064_28160488.1215872309670 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Os yes and old and recent way.  My first record = Celtic Journey to The Path (releas= ed in 99) I've had on CDBaby for several years so when they got the= deal to distribute their artists through iTunes I got to ride.  The d= eal they take I think a tenth of the .99 ct sale (will need to recheck that= as I've forgottten).  For a long story that's more of a perso= nal frustration with CDBaby re another title I've decided to no longer = use them beyond this record.  I recently put my newest work Skipping the Light on Tunecore.= com which their deal is a rental fee of $19.98 annually to store your audio= on their server and they take upfront .99 cents a track plus .99 cents a s= tore that you have them put it in.  After that all income is yours.&nb= sp; THere is a deal through GuitarCenter.com right now that when you regist= er a work with Tunecore at the checkout stage enter the words 'getstart= ed' and you get 5 stores for free.  I have several other CD's = but these are the two I've got in the digital world for sale.  I t= hink Tunecore is probably the way to go but still assessing.  My itune= s royalties on CJTOTP have not been great I think @$100 to date as what I d= o is a niche market but some of that is probably about needing to promo mor= e.
 
Jim

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,

just wondered if anyo= ne here has any experience of getting
self-released stuff up for sale on= the big online outlets e.g. iTunes,
Amazon etc.

Any suggestions/recommendations?


cheers,
o= s.

--
os@collective.co.uk
http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
http://www.= expert-sleepers.co.uk/




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapa= inting on My Space -
http://www.myspac= e.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 oth= er creative souls - http://www.= woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://= www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by M= el Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.me= lbay.com
------=_Part_3064_28160488.1215872309670-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 15:34:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 715263BEAF; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:34:48 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for July 12, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <4878CF18.7050401@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:34:16 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2008/080712.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. 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To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 16:48:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C2D73BEA6; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9e0440a60807120649v1b9a6934tde4f8202a38028f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:49:12 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: "Duke Sexton" , loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3028_18003115.1215870552275" References: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60807100851m43d0987asace2686446ad999b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807110759m5a5c2befvd99c2cfb0bce7956@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:48:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3028_18003115.1215870552275 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That's funny and yes my confusion that spliced you two guys together, I now remember Duke your last name but was hanging on to Duke and good to hear from you. Daryl and I have 4 CP shows here in NY and Boston (7/26 - Stain (Brooklyn), 7/27 - MudShop (NYC), 7/28 - ABC No Rio (NYC) and 8/2 - Kave (Boston Somerville) the latter with Dennis Moser, Tim Nelson and Rob Byrd) and I will tell him hey for you. To both of you a stroke of guardian angel luck came my way yesterday. From Jeff's encouragement I researched the 2880 a bit, began to look on eBay and found one that appeared to be some sort of 'factory second' deal that was a make offer thing. The seller had had previous 2880's and some other EH gear however their feedback was mixed. While hemming/hawing I hit Musicians Friend one more time yesterday thinking don't be 'penny wise pound foolish' and low and behold there was a 2880 Scratch/Dent for $310! I decided that was a message to me as I've bought other Scratch/Dent with good success so I bought it. So very jazzed about that and this new box. Thanks Jeff for the added info on this box and good to hear from you Duke. Thanks to all who offered me input the last few days. Jim On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Duke Sexton wrote: > At 10:59 AM -0400 7/11/08, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> >> I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us [chinapainting] >> at Y2k last year, Saturday evening? There was a Jeff but I may have you >> mixed up. >> > > LOL! Hey Jim, Jeff Duke didn't perform after you guys last year; that was > me. It's not the "Jeff" you're finding familiar. It's the "Duke". ;) > > Anyway, hope things are going well, and wishing you luck on your looper > hunt. And tell Daryl I said "hi" when you talk to him next (I think I may > owe him an email, but then I'm always owing somebody an email, it seems). > > -- Duke. > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_3028_18003115.1215870552275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
That's funny and yes my confusion that spliced you two guys together, I now remember Duke your last name but was hanging on to Duke and good to hear from you.  Daryl and I have 4 CP shows here in NY and Boston (7/26 - Stain (Brooklyn), 7/27 - MudShop (NYC), 7/28 - ABC No Rio (NYC) and 8/2 - Kave (Boston Somerville) the latter with Dennis Moser, Tim Nelson and Rob Byrd) and I will  tell him hey for you.
 
To both of you a stroke of guardian angel luck came my way yesterday.  From Jeff's encouragement I researched the 2880 a bit, began to look on eBay and found one that appeared to be some sort of 'factory second' deal that was a make offer thing.  The seller had had previous 2880's and some other EH gear however their feedback was mixed.  While hemming/hawing I hit Musicians Friend one more time yesterday thinking don't be 'penny wise pound foolish' and low and behold there was a 2880 Scratch/Dent for $310!  I decided that was a message to me as I've bought other Scratch/Dent with good success so I bought it.  So very jazzed about that and this new box.  Thanks Jeff for the added info on this box and good to hear from you Duke.
 
Thanks to all who offered me input the last few days.
 
Jim

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Duke Sexton <mech2@m3ch.net> wrote:
At 10:59 AM -0400 7/11/08, Jim Goodin wrote:

I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us [chinapainting] at Y2k last year, Saturday evening?  There was a Jeff but I may have you mixed up.

LOL!  Hey Jim, Jeff Duke didn't perform after you guys last year; that was me.  It's not the "Jeff" you're finding familiar.  It's the "Duke".  ;)

Anyway, hope things are going well, and wishing you luck on your looper hunt.  And tell Daryl I said "hi" when you talk to him next (I think I may owe him an email, but then I'm always owing somebody an email, it seems).

       -- Duke.



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
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Best regards, JENNIFER WILLIAMS From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 17:34:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A73B73BE95; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2489 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:34:23 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=zoekeating.com; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ACL-Warn:X-AntiAbuse:X-AntiAbuse:X-AntiAbuse:X-AntiAbuse:X-AntiAbuse; b=HFnGoK2TW0NLnnSXW5xU7aNlBDZXj28KIOqv/YWE/r4vA2atQbx1jv+f4bQnv08Qxr5MSozrOnUYKVdTilThm5YH9BGurACEs7d8m0jUVDPh3GAxhlfSkyoNQ8CUtGje; Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: OT: selling via iTunes Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:54:59 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - drive30.station030.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zoekeating.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:34:23 +0000 (UTC) oh, also, cdbaby reports sales to the artist in an online spreadsheet, when they get the reports from itunes (every 6 weeks). i can sort by country, date, song, album, etc. very useful. On Jul 12, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Os wrote: > Hi, > > just wondered if anyone here has any experience of getting > self-released stuff up for sale on the big online outlets e.g. iTunes, > Amazon etc. > > Any suggestions/recommendations? > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 17:36:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5E83BE95; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ct16Gs6WpEctcXX4pWUUxA1sWOi82rTwQ8OVsjlKA3U=; b=Nes94EtmQsFnKjQNo22ZwmOrlEXHUDxzMZnQUjUoelWU2Q4R/je4+Z0D7b31M549r3 iJ/1owfLWx1GJeFL0RKZW3kx58MhQiaFzh416fODzZSx6fL7plfU2PvsgOp6Bgmyoddv tVcwo3Ia4PaFENtk//qbIyXFOF+WN/g9A++38= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ARCjvY0azMhRYRsJSefNxDlAcLdzoFL88O2StbtrmRhPoga4NGA2dlV5M67qLf8WVG +0fxG04hMLD0WuYzm0RX2gcCVsoCijIcB5swvrZYN67Hg3s//CbOoQiKMKO6WvWE1VJU PLiIe971sHgSXbIYwFskyjalbnr4VMZ5TvlR0= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:36:41 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: selling via iTunes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Os, I've been using TuneCore (http://www.tunecore.com/) for the past year and a half as a central point to get my music in to Amazon, iTunes, Rhapsody and quite a few other onlne distributors. Dennis On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Os wrote: > Hi, > > just wondered if anyone here has any experience of getting > self-released stuff up for sale on the big online outlets e.g. iTunes, > Amazon etc. > > Any suggestions/recommendations? > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 17:36:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78F063BEAE; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=zoekeating.com; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ACL-Warn:X-AntiAbuse:X-AntiAbuse:X-AntiAbuse:X-AntiAbuse:X-AntiAbuse; b=E/hL6uHvMB7w13oMXD+qZxWvMWRewmrQ/7CE8MClgHF3WmSteMfdko0DfKej9O042Z6oUXCofFxkJw9CVnZZETTo1nIgd9Gv0hdO1oL62gEBvLMJdtzhqQ1wAgx4u3nk; Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: OT: selling via iTunes Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:52:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - drive30.station030.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zoekeating.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:36:49 +0000 (UTC) cdbaby is the best way to get your stuff on itunes. very easy and their percentage is the best deal around. i can't say enough good things about itunes.... pays my mortgage. On Jul 12, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Os wrote: > Hi, > > just wondered if anyone here has any experience of getting > self-released stuff up for sale on the big online outlets e.g. iTunes, > Amazon etc. > > Any suggestions/recommendations? > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 20:21:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AC473BE87; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01b201c8e45c$de8d5e70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: CT-Collective "Bugs"! Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:21:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C8E42A.936AF9C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <3g0iDC.A.PFB.LJReIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:21:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C8E42A.936AF9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's my latest CT Collective project: Bugs. =20 http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&albumid=3D35 = (download MP3s, artwork, comment on songs, etc). CT-Bugs is a collection of compositions based on a set of sample = recordings of a various insects from around the world. No other sound = sources were used other than the insects. The artists, all members of = (CT) Collective, manipulated these sample recordings with various = effects and audio software, in order to produce their final work of = musical art. Hope you all like it. I really loved the creativity from everyone on = this project.=20 Cheers, Kris ------=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C8E42A.936AF9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here's my latest CT Collective project: = Bugs.  
 
http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=3Dmusic&albumid=3D35<= /A> (download=20 MP3s, artwork, comment on songs, etc).
 
CT-Bugs is a collection of compositions based on a set of sample = recordings=20 of a various insects from around the world. No other sound sources were = used=20 other than the insects. The artists, all members of (CT) Collective, = manipulated=20 these sample recordings with various effects and audio software, in = order to=20 produce their final work of musical art.
 
Hope you all like it. I really loved = the creativity=20 from everyone on this project.
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C8E42A.936AF9C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 20:48:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1A783BE86; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1215895685; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=t2aSR7uZ3npIStoleMZdy/1Buyk=; b=W7OtKnWSUL1tSztBQi+WfuHfKnr4Iv8xMZKQk+3STlgak1OigYBojQLDRFFoRU3d jIsUv7B37ir01q5FdOxyxf9lNBG63GCc2XoJJ1CQxD3t4x43ULbgQAcyT7stlOj2; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=66GQ-j6TMGcA:10 a=jRH9K6SCtW0A:10 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=DPgOdzIHAAAA:8 a=KCVmX8HyAAAA:8 a=s9ThSRKNAAAA:8 a=xAEii7aeAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=LLulbNCBqYqAKk7eiZUA:9 a=Zl1VfJhE4UUprVHw1QQA:7 a=3bPoOj6XyvyDhSslZU1S8VcQejkA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=o5_cSospHp4A:10 a=fDq-ytBZXmUA:10 a=J4c4-AHJ46LhCCwAfQ4A:9 a=diMMc68EyCvgAkkORZYA:7 a=dastpS6ICBEmI8EA9xDbr7p3VLUA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c8e468$f7957cc0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60807100851m43d0987asace2686446ad999b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807110759m5a5c2befvd99c2cfb0bce7956@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807120649v1b9a6934tde4f8202a38028f2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:48:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8E43F.0E1AF760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:48:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8E43F.0E1AF760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Way to go, if you need the software update let me know, it fixes some = sync problems and provides extensive midi control according to the note, = I haven't used anything but syncing to a drum box. btw I'm listening now = to "Up In The Trees" from the ct project Bugs Krispen just told us = about, very cool crickets Jim. Jeff=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Duke Sexton ; loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work That's funny and yes my confusion that spliced you two guys together, = I now remember Duke your last name but was hanging on to Duke and good = to hear from you. Daryl and I have 4 CP shows here in NY and Boston = (7/26 - Stain (Brooklyn), 7/27 - MudShop (NYC), 7/28 - ABC No Rio (NYC) = and 8/2 - Kave (Boston Somerville) the latter with Dennis Moser, Tim = Nelson and Rob Byrd) and I will tell him hey for you. To both of you a stroke of guardian angel luck came my way yesterday. = >From Jeff's encouragement I researched the 2880 a bit, began to look on = eBay and found one that appeared to be some sort of 'factory second' = deal that was a make offer thing. The seller had had previous 2880's = and some other EH gear however their feedback was mixed. While = hemming/hawing I hit Musicians Friend one more time yesterday thinking = don't be 'penny wise pound foolish' and low and behold there was a 2880 = Scratch/Dent for $310! I decided that was a message to me as I've = bought other Scratch/Dent with good success so I bought it. So very = jazzed about that and this new box. Thanks Jeff for the added info on = this box and good to hear from you Duke. Thanks to all who offered me input the last few days. Jim On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Duke Sexton wrote: At 10:59 AM -0400 7/11/08, Jim Goodin wrote: I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us = [chinapainting] at Y2k last year, Saturday evening? There was a Jeff = but I may have you mixed up. LOL! Hey Jim, Jeff Duke didn't perform after you guys last year; = that was me. It's not the "Jeff" you're finding familiar. It's the = "Duke". ;) Anyway, hope things are going well, and wishing you luck on your = looper hunt. And tell Daryl I said "hi" when you talk to him next (I = think I may owe him an email, but then I'm always owing somebody an = email, it seems). -- Duke. --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel = Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com=20 No virus found in this incoming message. 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Way to go, if you need the software = update let me=20 know, it fixes some sync problems and provides extensive midi control = according=20 to the note, I haven't used anything but syncing to a drum box. btw I'm=20 listening now to "Up In The Trees" from the ct project Bugs Krispen just = told us=20 about, very cool crickets Jim.
 
Jeff 
 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C8E43F.0E1AF760-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 21:05:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBE533BE84; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48791CA7.5090900@musicbymark.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:05:43 -0500 From: Mark Young User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: DigiTech Harmonizer Vocalist 2 vs. 4? Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Any strong opinions on which is better choice? Extra features in 4 are probably worth the difference in price to me, BUT only if they are QUICK &  EASY to access - are they?

v2 looks so much easier to use. I tried a friend's v2  last night and it was SO easy! Is v4 more cumberson/cryptic?

Any esp. cool ways to LOOP w/ a harmonizer? I don't have the 'Loopers Vision" yet, as far as envisioning creative ways to loop.     (sorry if this is a cliche past topic here).

Thanks,

Mark

Mark Young
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 21:27:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A56C3BE84; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=J0PggJAMLst7h0Iyp2ispHtaiXn1JlrSPYp+yk1rFck=; b=urf/DhZfS8Mk1g4Al0mTfMxYdn7rByAZU8E982WmgmZ4RH1Zxz+C9dPXBdb+xHWrc/ ZQuKOqyYEaGgEPERITaUim3iq5VAWgna/lQUqeetbvy2AWfgeFgYw1Bi8hjK05kaysH3 QLdQCtg7VCoNLDSrnrclZN3p4/nocMfA18ZOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=q7ancIFpjOOPnMry3odKeb9EroyO64lwyg8uuR4MKvJAR5GsieLa++9ll6VGaiBxoN oN13+muq8NRlsSSC8rdMv4eQVvBEdatyBfPbTXponNp7tkQVUhGTt04FLkALAhjWY6Cl ohkq+YGzWQH1XRWoP2gn5tF7JNMmhLUoVpliY= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:27:33 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: selling via iTunes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 82b221bbfae3fda8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Thanks everyone for the replies! Will check out all the options mentioned. os. 2008/7/12 info at zoekeating : > cdbaby is the best way to get your stuff on itunes. very easy and their > percentage is the best deal around. > > i can't say enough good things about itunes.... pays my mortgage. > > On Jul 12, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Os wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> just wondered if anyone here has any experience of getting >> self-released stuff up for sale on the big online outlets e.g. iTunes, >> Amazon etc. >> >> Any suggestions/recommendations? >> >> >> cheers, >> os. >> >> -- >> os@collective.co.uk >> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >> > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 21:43:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 559FD3BE85; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003b01c8e468$750f0730$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <01b201c8e45c$de8d5e70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: moebius questions Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:44:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01C8E479.378CCFD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18PLwO2KwxDI9CG0ddABJ3NNtg8u99DRGqahLg w/uqHHUgkbHCAdCo5t9TRoMYSfWm76Yv7lDuSLgl8oMVXzCrQs 3/DpvSZwJOBDyyVsZUDvMNv/kKfnd1D Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:43:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C8E479.378CCFD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have two moebius-questions, might be a bit newbie-ish: how do i program "half speed" to switch right at the trigger moment, and = not after finishing the cycle? how could that same button toggle between "half speed" and "normal = speed"? is there a corresponding command for "double speed"? i would like to have loop 1 and 2 run synchronous, loop 3 and 4 = independently. (right now all of them run independently). where and how do i set such a = default? help is greatly appreciated. smooth looping everybody - tilmann ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C8E479.378CCFD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i have two moebius-questions, = might be a bit=20 newbie-ish:
 
how do i program "half speed" to switch = right at=20 the trigger moment, and not after finishing the cycle?
how could that same button toggle = between "half=20 speed" and "normal speed"?
 
is there a = corresponding command for=20 "double speed"?
 
i would like to have loop 1 and 2 run = synchronous,=20 loop 3 and 4 = independently.
(right now all of them run = independently). where=20 and how do i set such a default?
 
help is greatly = appreciated.
 
smooth looping everybody - = tilmann
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C8E479.378CCFD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 22:35:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 299B33BE86; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBM1brcFOV Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: moebius questions Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:35:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: AcjkaF0dPNGj1nU6RE6p4Qa0RW4FBAABnTyw In-Reply-To: <003b01c8e468$750f0730$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:35:06 +0000 (UTC) > i have two moebius-questions, might be a bit newbie-ish: First of all, great information sources for Mobius users are: * Mobius manual (available at the Mobius site) * EDP LoopIII and LoopIV manuals * Mobius discussion group All of your questions are answered in those manuals. > how do i program "half speed" to switch right at the trigger moment, and not after finishing the cycle? Set quantize to off for the respective track > how could that same button toggle between "half speed" and "normal speed"? I don't understand that question - this is the definition of "toggle", to alter between two states, right? > is there a corresponding command for "double speed"? Yes and no. The EDP does not have a double speed function, on the EDP, the only way to get double speed is to record at half speed then switch to normal speed. With Mobius, you can simply use a RateShift=+12. Both RateShift and HalfSpeed work independently. > i would like to have loop 1 and 2 run synchronous, loop 3 and 4 independently. > (right now all of them run independently). where and how do i set such a default? I assume you refer to tracks 1 to 4 here, right? (Loops are the different loops on one track between which you switch but which never sound at the same time). Set track1 and track2 to Sync=Out and leave tracks 3 and 4 in sync=off. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 12 23:22:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6B6B3BE88; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <027001c8e476$19785710$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Interactive Looping with Crowd Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:22:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_026D_01C8E443.CE323DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:22:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_026D_01C8E443.CE323DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today I played at Boise's City Market....about 1000 people milling = around a street of 4 blocks. Rather than doing my typical = jazz/contemporary, appealing to about 80% of the common public act, I = went out to the deep end, brought my max/msp system, a weird sound found = devise created by Joe Rut (iron rods, music box chimes, springs, guitar = strings, etc, attached to a metal block and melded to a guitar pickup), = and played very free and outside on the guitar. I got more response from = folks. I even had children playing the Joe Rut Machine at some points = in time. ....so, my next performance there in August, I plan to set out a few = tables and lay out 4-5 found sound devises, and write a special max/msp = path that randomly processes each one separately. I'm thinking the Joe = Rut machine and my bird call player (small hand held devise that comes = with 10 or so cards that you insert to play all sorts of bird calls). = Any other ideas? Kris ------=_NextPart_000_026D_01C8E443.CE323DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Today I played at Boise's City = Market....about 1000=20 people milling around a street of 4 blocks. Rather than doing my typical = jazz/contemporary, appealing to about 80% of the common public act, I = went out=20 to the deep end, brought my max/msp system, a weird sound found devise = created=20 by Joe Rut (iron rods, music box chimes, springs, guitar strings, etc, = attached=20 to a metal block and melded to a guitar pickup),  and played very = free and=20 outside on the guitar. I got more response from folks.  I even = had=20 children playing the Joe Rut Machine at some points in = time.
 
....so, my next performance there in = August, I plan=20 to set out a few tables and lay out 4-5 found sound devises, and write a = special=20 max/msp path that randomly processes each one separately.  I'm = thinking the=20 Joe Rut machine and my bird call player (small hand held devise that = comes with=20 10 or so cards that you insert to play all sorts of bird calls).  = Any other=20 ideas?
 
Kris
 
------=_NextPart_000_026D_01C8E443.CE323DC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 02:20:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCA943BE81; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 228821.36731.bm@omp203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ofqZWQWrBcRXoWYGcZgGM2TgttSOhzdD3CgntV6hPNHuziwjyM0Ku1XKM0sm2otNDbibtDxpv1Q77RG+HpPZHv5TgFuXGdKxucSlAysl4pAbxn4Gs+cnE4Vy30dsBV1m6x0zLiTVD/ru8TgQ5MyOSZZru6T84Dw4lsyMhibdhlc=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:20:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <027001c8e476$19785710$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <40343.60988.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:20:15 +0000 (UTC) One thing I've done that's been kind of fun is to hang a couple of mics up over the audience; they don't think anything of it because it just looks like I'm set up to record the show. But during a break, I open a loop and catch a few layers of crowd chatter, which I don't bring up in the mix until a good ways into the first piece of the next set, when I bring my instrument way down. Sometimes I've brought it in backwards (or pitchshifted or heavily 'verbed) and waited a little while to bring it back to normal again... It's funny to see the reaction; to the audience it sounds familiar, but they're not quite sure why, and then they suddenly realize that it's them! -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Any other ideas? > > Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 02:59:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE7393BE84; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <028701c8e494$7fa37290$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <40343.60988.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:59:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:59:44 +0000 (UTC) That's a great idea. I figured what I would do is have four interactive stations: The Joe Rut machine (1/4 inch), my bird call machine (1/4 inch), an open mic for vocals, talking, etc, and a mic on some other instrument like my tongue drum or maybe a music box. I plan to provide instructions that will invite the crowd to walk up and experiement with the instrument of their choice, while I play my guitar solo freestyle in the background. I will interact with what they do. That way, they start to get the idea of what is invovled in free improvisation in a group setting, listening, reacting, call and response, complementing others' parts, and so on. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > One thing I've done that's been kind of fun is to hang a couple of mics up > over the audience; they don't think anything of it because it just looks > like I'm set up to record the show. But during a break, I open a loop and > catch a few layers of crowd chatter, which I don't bring up in the mix > until a good ways into the first piece of the next set, when I bring my > instrument way down. Sometimes I've brought it in backwards (or > pitchshifted or heavily 'verbed) and waited a little while to bring it > back to normal again... It's funny to see the reaction; to the audience it > sounds familiar, but they're not quite sure why, and then they suddenly > realize that it's them! > > -t- > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Any other ideas? >> >> Kris > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 09:59:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A28F93BE84; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 45741314/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.183.244 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.183.244 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYAAIdueUhPTrf0/2dsb2JhbAAIqAKDMQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.30,353,1212361200"; d="scan'208";a="45741314" Message-ID: <4879D15D.1020509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:56:45 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DigiTech Harmonizer Vocalist 2 vs. 4? References: <48791CA7.5090900@musicbymark.net> In-Reply-To: <48791CA7.5090900@musicbymark.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Mark Young wrote: > Any esp. cool ways to LOOP w/ a harmonizer? I don't have the 'Loopers > Vision" yet, as far as envisioning creative ways to loop. (sorry if > this is a cliche past topic here). > just spend some hours playing with the toys ...and listening for things you like andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 10:17:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0E203BE84; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=hMboYoH4HkQjRjW1CrkfKHT/1Iw0k5uVzL6RHaUxRo0=; b=Nwl5IYEh+zgc8cZwzMPMMa58FZbC6InEbOhlHjgQBzn527HzHzY2+V0HluwwDJVdDh 7+eUawPHpleolT0+mc2EMBwAszwMVa29T+a4n5p/dMH39BbevVtubvFcxLBRl5CheBpE 4IxLUWgC50b5AVillt2ZhMzCTdJX1eQ4XDPzU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jE7yrGHPPA74EPDPeA46gKZdzmiCc+tfWNupEyDAueDEXxfGCR4GePluSOHsG1cnRL XTYgPa4eEc3CSEEnTym6D2nBmVFesoxHjIuN/0cDyQJ4xaZsvoxzdjIGZ8BvyD0WvfBw d4YR/bainq+FqbePDc7B5jv80nZKrBwnmJGhA= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:17:22 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CT-Collective "Bugs"! In-Reply-To: <01b201c8e45c$de8d5e70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_56797_32430155.1215944242684" References: <01b201c8e45c$de8d5e70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:17:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_56797_32430155.1215944242684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline My neighbours were a bit scared tonight... I put the speakers (hide) on a window at low gain but audible while having a summers dinner outside ... thanks Kris and all the CT members who made this possible, and of course our webmaster Michael... All was great fun at the end, don't worry. But fear comes into play also, isn't? 2008/7/12 Krispen Hartung : > Here's my latest CT Collective project: Bugs. > > http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=35 (download > MP3s, artwork, comment on songs, etc). > > CT-Bugs is a collection of compositions based on a set of sample recordings > of a various insects from around the world. No other sound sources were used > other than the insects. The artists, all members of (CT) Collective, > manipulated these sample recordings with various effects and audio software, > in order to produce their final work of musical art. > > Hope you all like it. I really loved the creativity from everyone on this > project. > Cheers, > > Kris > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_56797_32430155.1215944242684 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline My neighbours were a bit scared tonight... I put the speakers (hide) on a window at low gain but audible while having a summers dinner outside ... thanks Kris and all the CT members who made this possible, and of course our webmaster Michael... All was great fun at the end, don't worry. But fear comes into play also, isn't?  

2008/7/12 Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>:
Here's my latest CT Collective project: Bugs.  
 
http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=35 (download MP3s, artwork, comment on songs, etc).
 
CT-Bugs is a collection of compositions based on a set of sample recordings of a various insects from around the world. No other sound sources were used other than the insects. The artists, all members of (CT) Collective, manipulated these sample recordings with various effects and audio software, in order to produce their final work of musical art.
 
Hope you all like it. I really loved the creativity from everyone on this project.
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
 



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The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_56797_32430155.1215944242684-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 10:43:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5D803BE84; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=/v5l8mxSpvgsQpN9MI1ArCVpA7f5JwZePNzJnmSUWK4=; b=KKpa9Oky7EX5yujlVVBCyU6U15veKDQCWIjS0e7kcnRfYig+XrzsnGpTN0md6rR2+D AqwpYP40YObFyKQssT3ZeV+5xxID7dg0F2PdUnnHJnpXKTgDKzszFXiwinQyEC/eAFOC aRxAxuf4w/uXrhGPzOK9NbSpyA6zGNcfO0Lvc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ce0wH+iEkuOKDwJpC7EI6Aj+O62OtS5CsDX29DGBfMcEfidQHn+2XPK13so3aOecEd ji37mr5avx3Dc1VSwL/onLinmF7Wdm1LEOwDM1pZ+1QE3eMmBEmx1Nk2umuwAN8VIDCq DBWeKxBhky/XjVpdzI2u0IAB+A4brSMvS678o= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:43:33 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: kaossilator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_56861_31969594.1215945813035" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:43:33 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_56861_31969594.1215945813035 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hei Rainer!you check it? tell us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQOuNBuJwg raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_56861_31969594.1215945813035 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hei Rainer!
you check it?
tell us.


raul.
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The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_56861_31969594.1215945813035-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 11:33:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B65E63BE81; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002a01c8e4dc$512d7210$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: Subject: Re: moebius questions Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:33:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+NMEvtlVZxuUu1D7jdrSY9gx/A0xEabGIbnNW S4nBHERsudMNpwN4xTwHIReaPCDQYqHYgBdaKLco8rSGvAJOi8 qtEoIcTeGEqWNoNeO4yZee7UAaoHnLq Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:33:07 +0000 (UTC) thanx a lot for the advice. very helpful! so the magic word number one is "quantize"... and magic word number two is obviously "toggle", but i haven't found the place yet where i could set it. yes, i meant tracks instead of loops. and thanx for the rate shift - idea! best - tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 12:35 AM Subject: AW: moebius questions >> i have two moebius-questions, might be a bit newbie-ish: > > First of all, great information sources for Mobius users are: > * Mobius manual (available at the Mobius site) > * EDP LoopIII and LoopIV manuals > * Mobius discussion group > > All of your questions are answered in those manuals. > >> how do i program "half speed" to switch right at the trigger moment, > and not after finishing the cycle? > > Set quantize to off for the respective track > >> how could that same button toggle between "half speed" and "normal > speed"? > > I don't understand that question - this is the definition of "toggle", to > alter between two states, right? > >> is there a corresponding command for "double speed"? > > Yes and no. The EDP does not have a double speed function, on the EDP, the > only way to get double speed is to record at half speed then switch to > normal speed. With Mobius, you can simply use a RateShift=+12. Both > RateShift and HalfSpeed work independently. > >> i would like to have loop 1 and 2 run synchronous, loop 3 and 4 > independently. >> (right now all of them run independently). where and how do i set > such a default? > > I assume you refer to tracks 1 to 4 here, right? (Loops are the different > loops on one track between which you switch but which never sound at the > same time). > Set track1 and track2 to Sync=Out and leave tracks 3 and 4 in sync=off. > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 11:55:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCEF43BE84; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBOT32gIeW Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: moebius questions Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:55:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <002a01c8e4dc$512d7210$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Acjk3DmUFoPwK+N0RGS005w0aG+ezQAApyPQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Tilmann, > and magic word number two is obviously "toggle", but i Perhaps it's simply that I didn't get your question (repeated below with my answer for reference). I'll try to explain the function of the "Halfspeed" button (as assigned to an onscreen button or to a MIDI controller, e.g. floor pedal or faderbox): > >> how could that same button toggle between "half speed" and "normal > > speed"? > > > > I don't understand that question - this is the definition > of "toggle", to > > alter between two states, right? Halfspeed works like this: For now, I'm only talking about one track and assume that quantize=off (see the last message about this). When initializing Mobius, the track is in Halfspeed=Off. Halfspeed can be either on or off. Mobius reacts accordingly: If Halfspeed=Off, play back at normal playback rate, if Halfspeed=On, play back at half the playback rate. Pressing the Halfspeed button will switch halfspeed=on if halfspeed was off before and vice versa. Was that your question? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 12:04:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BED823BE84; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBOT32gIeW Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: kaossilator Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:04:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Acjk1UxX4JpP5yw7RBal8tiAdGTMUgACozSw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:04:17 +0000 (UTC) > hei Rainer! > you check it? > tell us. Thanks for asking, Raul - it's fair to believe that someone who owns the KP1, KP2 and KP3 would also have a Kaossilator. There are a lot of nice videos on youtube, as well as some discussion here on LD of Kaossilator users: http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_glimpse/LDarchive?query=kaossil ator&Search=Search&errors=0&maxfiles=50&maxlines=10&.cgifields=lineonly&.cgi fields=restricttofiles&.cgifields=filelist&.cgifields=partial&.cgifields=cas e (note that the url extends possibly over several lines, so you might need to paste it manually into your browser). The 411 was something like: Really nice toy, the first Kaoss series device which actually allows you to properly create sound, not only process it. With a price of less then a third of e.g. the KP3, definitely something to look at for someone who likes to have that kind of UI in his live show - much less interesting as a tool in the studio where the combination of keyboards, pitch bend and mod wheels and knobs makes it somewhat obsolete. And yes, someday I'm gonna get one ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 13:12:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 672133BE78; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:12:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <40343.60988.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <028701c8e494$7fa37290$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <028701c8e494$7fa37290$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: RE: Interactive Looping with Crowd Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:12:38 -0700 Message-ID: <00cf01c8e4ea$20038180$600a8480$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcjklIGPPqhhClwKSaOWJkgWoCPO0AAVVExw Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:12:39 +0000 (UTC) Sounds wonderful! Love the idea of incorporating spontaneous interactions from the audience like this. -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:00 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd That's a great idea. I figured what I would do is have four interactive stations: The Joe Rut machine (1/4 inch), my bird call machine (1/4 inch), an open mic for vocals, talking, etc, and a mic on some other instrument like my tongue drum or maybe a music box. I plan to provide instructions that will invite the crowd to walk up and experiement with the instrument of their choice, while I play my guitar solo freestyle in the background. I will interact with what they do. That way, they start to get the idea of what is invovled in free improvisation in a group setting, listening, reacting, call and response, complementing others' parts, and so on. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > One thing I've done that's been kind of fun is to hang a couple of mics up > over the audience; they don't think anything of it because it just looks > like I'm set up to record the show. But during a break, I open a loop and > catch a few layers of crowd chatter, which I don't bring up in the mix > until a good ways into the first piece of the next set, when I bring my > instrument way down. Sometimes I've brought it in backwards (or > pitchshifted or heavily 'verbed) and waited a little while to bring it > back to normal again... It's funny to see the reaction; to the audience it > sounds familiar, but they're not quite sure why, and then they suddenly > realize that it's them! > > -t- > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Any other ideas? >> >> Kris > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 13:26:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2F4E3BE81; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=a3m3gX40721P7Nhc1TwkfY88P2CR5ry1UpDoppvi9NY=; b=e470y5lK3ccXl/LCNXWB/gr3zJvOcdqoZklSEt5GjAzhIE8MjSl0IC15epPqKONQS4 qbINaUMnU8TuBV2rCgTLf1DeBWv3lGpzqyK2FOYvvAKQ9FG4p/H1dqM5P4z4QpKxnfpg xbJJj8vrCErQGkZvTqJvzpcTtmPftOVsIZJk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=x7HOEUP/hqVf1Mz6D0U06HmYHki3fv/eGK22hkkgr3TVEHdh7CEM3JW9ZyQMggzEkC 8rzyrJiPVK5eOQrnpNZ3hUSh9G9+fj5A66DSeadapaTKiP/vAgAr8wVFPIRNwC+bUBI9 7DwlTT33XvHELiNV6tFwusTLyTVotT+RcyCfo= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:26:05 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <40343.60988.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <027001c8e476$19785710$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <40343.60988.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1-RR4B.A.ACE.uJgeIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Tim Okay, I'm counting on you to do that next month at The Nave when the five of us (Daryl Shawn/Jim Goodin, Tim, myself, and Rob Byrd) get together to play ... (SHAMELESS GIG SPAM: that would be The Nave, Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church, Somerville, MA on Saturday, 2 August beginning at 7:00 PM ... Five Knaves in The Nave!) *GRIN Dennis On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Tim Nelson wrote: > One thing I've done that's been kind of fun is to hang a couple of mics up over the audience; they don't think anything of it because it just looks like I'm set up to record the show. But during a break, I open a loop and catch a few layers of crowd chatter, which I don't bring up in the mix until a good ways into the first piece of the next set, when I bring my instrument way down. Sometimes I've brought it in backwards (or pitchshifted or heavily 'verbed) and waited a little while to bring it back to normal again... It's funny to see the reaction; to the audience it sounds familiar, but they're not quite sure why, and then they suddenly realize that it's them! > > -t- > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Any other ideas? >> >> Kris > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 15:45:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C2193BE7B; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=Hmybwklh+5WQPzaCwBbJ8W2TypOL1xCUf2igNWsxQ84=; b=l76Mn+ARwQMn09DkY7M4IgN701NjwHa0TznUvaHmU5xnXGgoYrxvzh6tYz/1slA+/4 DqTMosB/R/xsaE83US0Gftin7+RYFu8kRrrP948JI3QfKfWC+Z1ux01LmZPEZeJKc03k 82C0ArUw+V+7KtQPj8Tu8GlzA+FWzuqhcCUgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type :message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=AMVc+xIjOIdb6ioaUEPP+WzYEFOgf9BbzDErFAfKCqJbvHCyYATTb+BTu1NNLG0LQe zjnKJeZRBwR5gzMP6NGXT0aISlwTSmSnQlCPvb7k2gU87q4WvBVyYP5bRjSdKBKsvPHC 6LtbYs9wumkRBX5Nv0D4u1a4yvZXmsybrifHQ= In-Reply-To: <027001c8e476$19785710$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <027001c8e476$19785710$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <89FDB18A-52EA-4324-B5FD-C65D00851B3C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:45:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:45:28 +0000 (UTC) On Jul 12, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I plan to set out a few tables and lay out 4-5 found sound devises, > and write a special max/msp path that randomly processes each one > separately. I'm thinking the Joe Rut machine and my bird call > player (small hand held devise that comes with 10 or so cards that > you insert to play all sorts of bird calls). Any other ideas? Perhaps a couple of circuit-bent toys or instruments if you can find them. There may be a local bending group in your area that could lend some. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 16:32:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A75C73BE88; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 646622.76899.bm@omp503.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=aL7cwUXonWMW1++TRuUhPyAyVYSMb/bIjPxIdoFppXjVAmaqcCMRXLFnRwI4FznO3WzsUHaoJS0Wiur8HCjnXdwgDi91pSa+kevRCLGHnRBQkIhakKydp7sw1ABr57TlQUIcCEuYU6OA7SQDxnYXm2IFhf2L9rJsgeDvwzt6oz0=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:32:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd To: Dennis Moser Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <370630.65937.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Well, Dennis, that relies pretty much on stealth, and that cat be outa the bag at this point. :) (It's one of those "when you least expect it..." things...) But I do like the way you very smoothly snuck that gig spam in there! I just saw that this has been posted: (Scroll down to August 2nd...) -t- ps: wasn't planning on cellolooping that night, but Jim's talking me into it... http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Dennis Moser wrote: > From: Dennis Moser > Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd > To: psychle62@yahoo.com > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 9:26 AM > Tim > > Okay, I'm counting on you to do that next month at The > Nave when the > five of us (Daryl Shawn/Jim Goodin, Tim, myself, and Rob > Byrd) get > together to play ... (SHAMELESS GIG SPAM: that would be The > Nave, > Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church, Somerville, MA on > Saturday, 2 > August beginning at 7:00 PM ... Five Knaves in The Nave!) > > *GRIN > > Dennis > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Tim Nelson > wrote: > > One thing I've done that's been kind of fun is > to hang a couple of mics up over the audience; they > don't think anything of it because it just looks like > I'm set up to record the show. But during a break, I > open a loop and catch a few layers of crowd chatter, which > I don't bring up in the mix until a good ways into the > first piece of the next set, when I bring my instrument way > down. Sometimes I've brought it in backwards (or > pitchshifted or heavily 'verbed) and waited a little > while to bring it back to normal again... It's funny to > see the reaction; to the audience it sounds familiar, but > they're not quite sure why, and then they suddenly > realize that it's them! > > > > -t- > > > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Krispen Hartung > wrote: > > > >> Any other ideas? > >> > >> Kris > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 16:42:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FA193BE8B; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:42:05 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080713164205.31900@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <027001c8e476$19785710$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <40343.60988.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Vrh87oKVVvrnHI5qFV+fdXleW6wjHi/GS5LCKDS hWGbcFR/mq0+vXDab93Xg3hAlJH3c7DKPdLA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: ZgJDfU1BeWUoScF6iHRzSWoxU3U4Nw9M Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kris passing a mic through a crowd, giving each person a different (weird) FX is pretty cool. While they are playing with it, you loop something out of it. I also saw a guy while sequencing let people play around with circuit-bending. It would be cool to allow the crowd some interactive modulation possibility. Maybe hand-out Wii Remotes? (make sure you get them back! ;-) Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 16:52:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6276C3BE86; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:52:31 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080713165231.31900@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <01b201c8e45c$de8d5e70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: CT-Collective "Bugs"! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/NJcYpOhjN8Vify6rNvzqMk0VnSpy72CDOFpdmfg e8Z6jbDEO2g25gj4D3tafJtlmZ+G8N+BQYOQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 9wBDfU1BeWUoScF6iHRzM2YxU3U4Nw+m Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kris I really loved the bugs! Excellent idea. The sounds did indeed sound "natural". Would be interesting to see if anyone could tell a difference. Buzap -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 17:10:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 588793BE89; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=SEMDFj27Q1bv3+cPQ5JdLLtvuIVciVrnm9bFZ/Oi2kw=; b=q7i38cfoxPHaDeTKhxRev/ueQvCNip9V+DLZQCcjuFqKWIk/fWWeW7v4/qrMhBiWiT 0wCwBIXp9yxPUUzVqOAZ3/pfl+Sx1Mbxp/lVnS/DWTOxi9PmYYD5fgpgarxEz3tUFbZD ruRxYyl3tlVq+8PQmiOwvxhQkW3i87qZrg/Uw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=JoipqEu8c2c+pID9WaaHTrYtKRjskTXjyedS7IGQqK56VTsH4oGKC1QtYGS+tEz7Xm AuOJx7RWXIMA+jYAn0L0qiZgKtlN9gPvXEjHfDR+B5wY/I7wIyt0+j4xLA5ppaZ+Nzu6 7ZC72aJWKIjP3UOonl+lJ1j15io+dofMXhIWU= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807130946y1bb09b10u5d3bb6c7b8b11169@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:46:01 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8042_29951317.1215967561411" References: <027001c8e476$19785710$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <40343.60988.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:10:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8042_29951317.1215967561411 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is such a cool idea and something I've thought of at least with hand drums. We ought to put out I don't a few pieces of PVC pipe which I can chase down if sounds like a good idea. On this note have any of ever heard the Ellipsis Arts release of a few years ago 'Gravikorrds, Whirlies & Pyrophones'. It's a CD of all kinds of experimental instruments by the likes of William Eaton and others. Foreword by no other than Tom Waits. Think this is out of print but anyone is interested and has trouble finding it would probably be justifiable to rip/post, I have the CD. Looking fwd Dennis thanks for plugging us. J On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Tim > > Okay, I'm counting on you to do that next month at The Nave when the > five of us (Daryl Shawn/Jim Goodin, Tim, myself, and Rob Byrd) get > together to play ... (SHAMELESS GIG SPAM: that would be The Nave, > Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church, Somerville, MA on Saturday, 2 > August beginning at 7:00 PM ... Five Knaves in The Nave!) > > *GRIN > > Dennis > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Tim Nelson wrote: > > One thing I've done that's been kind of fun is to hang a couple of mics > up over the audience; they don't think anything of it because it just looks > like I'm set up to record the show. But during a break, I open a loop and > catch a few layers of crowd chatter, which I don't bring up in the mix until > a good ways into the first piece of the next set, when I bring my instrument > way down. Sometimes I've brought it in backwards (or pitchshifted or heavily > 'verbed) and waited a little while to bring it back to normal again... It's > funny to see the reaction; to the audience it sounds familiar, but they're > not quite sure why, and then they suddenly realize that it's them! > > > > -t- > > > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > >> Any other ideas? > >> > >> Kris > > > > > > > > > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_8042_29951317.1215967561411 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
This is such a cool idea and something I've thought of at least with hand drums.  We ought to put out I don't a few pieces of PVC pipe which I can chase down if sounds like a good idea.
 
On this note have any of ever heard the Ellipsis Arts release of a few years ago 'Gravikorrds, Whirlies & Pyrophones'.  It's a CD of all kinds of experimental  instruments by the likes of William Eaton and others.  Foreword by no other than Tom Waits.  Think this is out of print but anyone is interested and has trouble finding it would probably be justifiable to rip/post, I have the CD.
 
Looking fwd Dennis thanks for plugging us.
 
J

On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
Tim

Okay, I'm counting on you to do that next month at The Nave when the
five of us (Daryl Shawn/Jim Goodin, Tim, myself, and Rob Byrd) get
together to play ... (SHAMELESS GIG SPAM: that would be The Nave,
Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church, Somerville, MA on Saturday, 2
August beginning at 7:00 PM ... Five Knaves in The Nave!)

*GRIN

Dennis


On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com> wrote:
> One thing I've done that's been kind of fun is to hang a couple of mics up over the audience; they don't think anything of it because it just looks like I'm set up to record the show. But during a break, I open a loop and catch a few layers of crowd chatter, which I don't bring up in the mix until a good ways into the first piece of the next set, when I bring my instrument way down. Sometimes I've brought it in backwards (or pitchshifted or heavily 'verbed) and waited a little while to bring it back to normal again... It's funny to see the reaction; to the audience it sounds familiar, but they're not quite sure why, and then they suddenly realize that it's them!
>
> -t-
>
> http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes
> http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson
> http://www.youtube.com/speleman62
>
>
> --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Kris
>
>
>
>
>




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X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=XpvOkeihvqUA:10 a=NF6cSYyz75QA:10 a=W7u_QJhGAAAA:8 a=Q1L98AZgAAAA:8 a=fU7c52UJF5puReUm9cEA:9 a=RT7eyLAFmMTYRbGMZaIRmxO50v0A:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=KUJAPYlYduUA:10 a=3G8rqr1xKkHtY4W7f8IA:9 a=-v6uFjNrvgLOIm_hOvMA:7 a=q6UE2OncTH9mjBhDy_gV99Y2lIgA:4 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001901c8e517$82965d40$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <027001c8e476$19785710$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <40343.60988.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60807130946y1bb09b10u5d3bb6c7b8b11169@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c8e516$9fbec520$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: OT: was Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:37:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C8E4ED.993FB390" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:37:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C8E4ED.993FB390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I actualy found it for sale and some more info here http://www.ninestones.com/burntearth/media/gravikord.html ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd Here is a working link = http://rapidshare.com/files/14238401/gravikords_whirlies_pyrophones.rar ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:46 AM Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd >snip ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C8E4ED.993FB390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
I actualy found it for sale and some = more info=20 here
http:/= /www.ninestones.com/burntearth/media/gravikord.html
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 = 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Interactive = Looping with=20 Crowd

Here is a working link
http://rapidshare.com/files/14238401/gravikords_whirlies_pyrophon= es.rar
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 = 11:46=20 AM
Subject: Re: Interactive = Looping with=20 Crowd

>snip
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C8E4ED.993FB390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 17:38:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66C123BE94; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <04b001c8e50f$41dc83e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <01b201c8e45c$de8d5e70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20080713165231.31900@gmx.net> Subject: Re: CT-Collective "Bugs"! Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:38:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <1acOaD.A.uX.V2jeIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Yes, I too found that a sort of naturalness came through the processing. Sort of strange and organic. Like with my wasp piece, there are cases where there are seveal octaves, delay, granular synthesize, processing the wasp sounds, but you can still tell it is from a real living thing...something about it that is hard to pin point...better than human almost. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Kris > > I really loved the bugs! Excellent idea. > > The sounds did indeed sound "natural". Would be interesting to see if > anyone could tell a difference. > > Buzap > > -- > Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! > Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 17:43:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 336733BE89; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9e0440a60807130900w5ed6a327hf6002f9bacd7b0e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:00:34 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CT-Collective "Bugs"! In-Reply-To: <01b201c8e45c$de8d5e70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7935_27229087.1215964834387" References: <01b201c8e45c$de8d5e70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:43:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7935_27229087.1215964834387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Krispen thanks for all the production finalizing our baby to completion as well as being master of ceremonies on this project and idea. Love the cover and package and will listen to the overall soon. It was really good to be part of this. I've been in the Collective which I credit to Tim Nelson leading me to through example about a year/half ago but have only recently begun to contribute which I'm happy to be part of now this and one other (Generative) release. Thanks again for spearheading Bugs. Jim On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Here's my latest CT Collective project: Bugs. > > http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=35 (download > MP3s, artwork, comment on songs, etc). > > CT-Bugs is a collection of compositions based on a set of sample recordings > of a various insects from around the world. No other sound sources were used > other than the insects. The artists, all members of (CT) Collective, > manipulated these sample recordings with various effects and audio software, > in order to produce their final work of musical art. > > Hope you all like it. I really loved the creativity from everyone on this > project. > Cheers, > > Kris > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_7935_27229087.1215964834387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Krispen thanks for all the production finalizing our baby to completion as well as being master of ceremonies on this project and idea.  Love the cover and package and will listen to the overall soon.  It was really good to be part of this.  I've been in the Collective which I credit to Tim Nelson leading me to through example about a year/half ago but have only recently begun to contribute which I'm happy to be part of now this and one other (Generative) release.  Thanks again for  spearheading Bugs.
 
Jim

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
Here's my latest CT Collective project: Bugs.  
 
http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=35 (download MP3s, artwork, comment on songs, etc).
 
CT-Bugs is a collection of compositions based on a set of sample recordings of a various insects from around the world. No other sound sources were used other than the insects. The artists, all members of (CT) Collective, manipulated these sample recordings with various effects and audio software, in order to produce their final work of musical art.
 
Hope you all like it. I really loved the creativity from everyone on this project.
Cheers,
 
Kris
 
 



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_7935_27229087.1215964834387-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 18:40:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57FA33BE8B; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 319 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:39:59 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 352378.47574.bm@omp112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ooP+k+EueFRakGHVCHW9y+1xkrfPmH47TyVIgKGuOdylU35Y7j79TgfcblKqTtbLeMOc71MMiT7OBejyPDo87KyTBNR2mzV8qD66Glm/3am44RXGxfEKlvmjNvOVg0Wg72Wgcipq4IeOmP6cQDPlRrkv177pGrGfKoFVbMbPu10=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:34:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jah Jast Reply-To: jast81@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CT-Collective "Bugs"! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <270171.98501.qm@web110105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6HEZTD.A.NXB.AwkeIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:40:00 +0000 (UTC) lol... --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Raul Bonell wrote: > From: Raul Bonell > Subject: Re: CT-Collective "Bugs"! > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 10:17 AM > My neighbours were a bit scared tonight... I put the > speakers (hide) on a > window at low gain but audible while having a summers > dinner outside ... > thanks Kris and all the CT members who made this possible, > and of course our > webmaster Michael... All was great fun at the end, > don't worry. But fear > comes into play also, isn't? > > 2008/7/12 Krispen Hartung : > > > Here's my latest CT Collective project: Bugs. > > > > > http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=35 > (download > > MP3s, artwork, comment on songs, etc). > > > > CT-Bugs is a collection of compositions based on a set > of sample recordings > > of a various insects from around the world. No other > sound sources were used > > other than the insects. The artists, all members of > (CT) Collective, > > manipulated these sample recordings with various > effects and audio software, > > in order to produce their final work of musical art. > > > > Hope you all like it. I really loved the creativity > from everyone on this > > project. > > Cheers, > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 19:32:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 959E93BE88; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9e0440a60807122017j4b77aa45s10ef4212e4d5ab42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:17:11 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work In-Reply-To: <000e01c8e468$f7957cc0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5498_28732456.1215919031372" References: <9e0440a60807090843lf331217p4b118b4dbac8477a@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60807100851m43d0987asace2686446ad999b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807110759m5a5c2befvd99c2cfb0bce7956@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807120649v1b9a6934tde4f8202a38028f2@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c8e468$f7957cc0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:32:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5498_28732456.1215919031372 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Jeff thanks. At this time I didn't get the remote pedal and it hit me after your note that I have a 3 pedal midi unit that came with a mid-80's midi guitar controller. If I configure it right would that not work as the remote pedal? Beyond that I'm not using any midi devices these days although I still have a TX81Z and a version of a 90's Sound Canvas, well also a Yamaha S03(?) keyboard. You're triggering your drum machine in the loop chain yes? I'm a bit naive about this stuff but is the pedal over midi or is it some other kind of remote? Re Bugs/Up IN the Trees thanks, that was a fun project all manipulation from a 6 second sample. I did a similar thing today from about a 60 second thing that started as acoustic guitar that I flipped. Anyhow thanks for the encouragement and help on my new box, I'm excited about the possibilities. Jim On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Way to go, if you need the software update let me know, it fixes some > sync problems and provides extensive midi control according to the note, I > haven't used anything but syncing to a drum box. btw I'm listening now to > "Up In The Trees" from the ct project Bugs Krispen just told us about, very > cool crickets Jim. > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* Duke Sexton ; loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:49 AM > *Subject:* Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work > > That's funny and yes my confusion that spliced you two guys together, I > now remember Duke your last name but was hanging on to Duke and good to hear > from you. Daryl and I have 4 CP shows here in NY and Boston (7/26 - Stain > (Brooklyn), 7/27 - MudShop (NYC), 7/28 - ABC No Rio (NYC) and 8/2 - Kave > (Boston Somerville) the latter with Dennis Moser, Tim Nelson and Rob Byrd) > and I will tell him hey for you. > > To both of you a stroke of guardian angel luck came my way yesterday. From > Jeff's encouragement I researched the 2880 a bit, began to look on eBay and > found one that appeared to be some sort of 'factory second' deal that was a > make offer thing. The seller had had previous 2880's and some other EH gear > however their feedback was mixed. While hemming/hawing I hit Musicians > Friend one more time yesterday thinking don't be 'penny wise pound foolish' > and low and behold there was a 2880 Scratch/Dent for $310! I decided that > was a message to me as I've bought other Scratch/Dent with good success so I > bought it. So very jazzed about that and this new box. Thanks Jeff for the > added info on this box and good to hear from you Duke. > > Thanks to all who offered me input the last few days. > > Jim > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Duke Sexton wrote: > >> At 10:59 AM -0400 7/11/08, Jim Goodin wrote: >> >>> >>> I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us [chinapainting] >>> at Y2k last year, Saturday evening? There was a Jeff but I may have you >>> mixed up. >>> >> >> LOL! Hey Jim, Jeff Duke didn't perform after you guys last year; that was >> me. It's not the "Jeff" you're finding familiar. It's the "Duke". ;) >> >> Anyway, hope things are going well, and wishing you luck on your looper >> hunt. And tell Daryl I said "hi" when you talk to him next (I think I may >> owe him an email, but then I'm always owing somebody an email, it seems). >> >> -- Duke. >> > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.9/1548 - Release Date: 7/12/2008 7:40 AM > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_5498_28732456.1215919031372 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Jeff thanks. At this time I didn't get the remote pedal and it hit me after your note that I have a 3 pedal midi unit that came with a mid-80's midi guitar controller.  If I configure it right would that not work as the remote pedal?  Beyond that I'm not using any midi devices these days although I still have a TX81Z and a version of a 90's Sound Canvas, well also a Yamaha S03(?) keyboard.  You're triggering your drum machine in the loop chain yes?  I'm a bit naive about this stuff but is the pedal over midi or is it some other kind of remote?
 
Re Bugs/Up IN the Trees thanks, that was a fun project all manipulation from a 6 second sample.  I did a similar thing today from about a 60 second thing that started as acoustic guitar that I flipped.
 
Anyhow thanks for the encouragement and help on my new box, I'm excited about the possibilities.
 
Jim

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Jeff Duke <echohead@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Way to go, if you need the software update let me know, it fixes some sync problems and provides extensive midi control according to the note, I haven't used anything but syncing to a drum box. btw I'm listening now to "Up In The Trees" from the ct project Bugs Krispen just told us about, very cool crickets Jim.
 
Jeff 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work

That's funny and yes my confusion that spliced you two guys together, I now remember Duke your last name but was hanging on to Duke and good to hear from you.  Daryl and I have 4 CP shows here in NY and Boston (7/26 - Stain (Brooklyn), 7/27 - MudShop (NYC), 7/28 - ABC No Rio (NYC) and 8/2 - Kave (Boston Somerville) the latter with Dennis Moser, Tim Nelson and Rob Byrd) and I will  tell him hey for you.
 
To both of you a stroke of guardian angel luck came my way yesterday.  From Jeff's encouragement I researched the 2880 a bit, began to look on eBay and found one that appeared to be some sort of 'factory second' deal that was a make offer thing.  The seller had had previous 2880's and some other EH gear however their feedback was mixed.  While hemming/hawing I hit Musicians Friend one more time yesterday thinking don't be 'penny wise pound foolish' and low and behold there was a 2880 Scratch/Dent for $310!  I decided that was a message to me as I've bought other Scratch/Dent with good success so I bought it.  So very jazzed about that and this new box.  Thanks Jeff for the added info on this box and good to hear from you Duke.
 
Thanks to all who offered me input the last few days.
 
Jim

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Duke Sexton <mech2@m3ch.net> wrote:
At 10:59 AM -0400 7/11/08, Jim Goodin wrote:

I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us [chinapainting] at Y2k last year, Saturday evening?  There was a Jeff but I may have you mixed up.

LOL!  Hey Jim, Jeff Duke didn't perform after you guys last year; that was me.  It's not the "Jeff" you're finding familiar.  It's the "Duke".  ;)

Anyway, hope things are going well, and wishing you luck on your looper hunt.  And tell Daryl I said "hi" when you talk to him next (I think I may owe him an email, but then I'm always owing somebody an email, it seems).

       -- Duke.



--
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MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com 
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MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_5498_28732456.1215919031372-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 20:41:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 645423BE8B; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Harmonies...man Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:40:55 -0700 Message-ID: <002001c8e528$c2ca0090$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8E4EE.166B2890" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjlKL+VtJqgOPFLTkKJsduoCk9fhw== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8E4EE.166B2890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yo! All of this talk of harmonizers both soft and hard had me waxing nostalgic for the old Digitech IPS33b harmonizer I used to own. For the last several years with the exception of Eventide, no one has made a dedicated diatonic capable instrument harmonizer, (though a few companies like Digitech and TC have offered vocal harmonizers that allowed an inserted instrument to determine the key of the vocal harmonies). The other day I got to try out the new Harmony Man stomp box from Digitech. The same size as a Digitech Jamman, the HM will do two part harmony that is key based (i.e. .intelligent), parallel harmonies, and detune effects. It is simple and strait forward, but offers very little editing other than control over which two intervals you want to use, over all mix, a quick key dial, and a handful of preset locations. It does have a cool "key learn feature that by depressing one of the two pedals, you can strum a chord and the HM will analyze it and change keys accordingly. It also has an insert for a distortion pedal, and an insert for another guitar that allows a second guitarist (or keyboardist) to control the key changes for you. Intelligent harmonies tracked very well, but got wiggy if you tried to play a chord. Parallel harmonies also did well and tracked chords better, the detune functions where OK, kind of a light chorusing that worked well when used in conjunction with a parallel upper octave to achieve a faux 12 string sound . I ran a reissue tube screamer in the distortion pedal loop and was able to achieve smooth singing harmonies. The HM also has a built in tune. This a pretty cool box that does what it does very well, and a bit cheaper than an Eclipse. Closet Wishbone Ash fans and Allman Bros and Queen junkies take note :-) Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8E4EE.166B2890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yo!

 All of this talk of harmonizers both soft and = hard had me waxing nostalgic for the old Digitech IPS33b harmonizer I used to = own. For the last several years with the exception of Eventide, no one has made a dedicated diatonic capable instrument harmonizer, (though a few = companies like Digitech and TC have offered vocal harmonizers that allowed an inserted = instrument to determine the key of the vocal harmonies). The other day I got to try = out the new Harmony Man stomp box from Digitech. The same size as a Digitech = Jamman, the HM will do two part harmony that is key based (i.e. .intelligent), = parallel harmonies, and detune effects. It is simple and strait forward, but = offers very little editing other than control over which two intervals you want to = use, over all mix, a quick key dial, and a handful of preset locations. It = does have a cool “key learn feature that by depressing one of the two = pedals, you can strum a chord and the HM will analyze it and change keys accordingly. It = also has an insert for a distortion pedal, and an insert for another guitar = that allows a second guitarist (or keyboardist) to control the key changes for you. Intelligent harmonies tracked very well, but got wiggy if you tried to = play a chord. Parallel harmonies also did well and tracked chords better, the = detune functions where OK, kind of a light chorusing that worked well when used = in conjunction with a parallel upper octave to achieve a faux 12 string = sound . I ran a reissue tube screamer in the distortion pedal loop and was able to achieve smooth singing harmonies.  The HM also has a built in tune. = This a pretty cool box that does what it does very well, and a bit cheaper than = an Eclipse. Closet Wishbone Ash fans and Allman Bros and Queen junkies take = note J

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C8E4EE.166B2890-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 20:46:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 944AD3BE90; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005401c8e529$984dbb30$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: Subject: Re: moebius questions Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:46:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18ppZee1Hcd0w8xkNZJp323QcCf3B3o+HXfGNz 1AC4oo4GAqJfgNPBygm8mw1VzjFXqecKqfkiihztfJVBNuVzt+ TDimI0fW6fdDSJVXXwbA4l1o2LOtrIC Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:46:17 +0000 (UTC) yes, that was my question, but: my halfspeed button will just stay halfspeed and not switch back... i have assigned it in "configuration"-"midi control" using max track groups: 0 scope: global type: note channel: 1 value: 0 i have changed quantize mode off in the presets. seems that multiply will start recording inside the running loop now. i suppose all other quantized behavious will have changed accordingly? smooth looping! tilmann ps: still in quantize:on i discovered that i can start halfspeed in the middle of something if i hit the command twice - very nice, although a bit imprecise... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: AW: moebius questions > Tilmann, > >> and magic word number two is obviously "toggle", but i > > Perhaps it's simply that I didn't get your question (repeated below with > my > answer for reference). I'll try to explain the function of the "Halfspeed" > button (as assigned to an onscreen button or to a MIDI controller, e.g. > floor pedal or faderbox): > >> >> how could that same button toggle between "half speed" and "normal >> > speed"? >> > >> > I don't understand that question - this is the definition >> of "toggle", to >> > alter between two states, right? > > Halfspeed works like this: > For now, I'm only talking about one track and assume that quantize=off > (see > the last message about this). > > When initializing Mobius, the track is in Halfspeed=Off. > Halfspeed can be either on or off. Mobius reacts accordingly: > If Halfspeed=Off, play back at normal playback rate, if Halfspeed=On, play > back at half the playback rate. > > Pressing the Halfspeed button will switch halfspeed=on if halfspeed was > off > before and vice versa. > > Was that your question? > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 20:47:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C924F3BE8F; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <04b001c8e50f$41dc83e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <01b201c8e45c$de8d5e70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20080713165231.31900@gmx.net> <04b001c8e50f$41dc83e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: CT-Collective "Bugs"! Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:46:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:47:02 +0000 (UTC) ( I just now dialed in on this thread, so if the below has already =20 been mentioned, please forgive my doing so.) Graeme Revell (SPK) used this same concept to make a brilliant album =20= back in 1986 entitled "The Insect Musicians". He spent around 2 years traveling over much of the planet recording =20 various insect sounds (or "songs"), and later a full year was devoted =20= to sampling these recordings and processing the sounds to create the =20 sound of "new musical instruments", using the early Fairlight =20 Computer Musical Instrument, and then afterwards writing and =20 recording the musical compositions. The album was available on both =20 LP and CD. It may(?) still be around, so a search would be worth a =20 try, at least. It has long been one of my more favorite albums. Good luck in finding =20= it. It is WORTH IT! And yes, there is also some loopage involved. :-) All the best, -Rev.Fever Portland,OR On Jul 13, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Yes, I too found that a sort of naturalness came through the =20 > processing. Sort of strange and organic. Like with my wasp piece, =20 > there are cases where there are seveal octaves, delay, granular =20 > synthesize, processing the wasp sounds, but you can still tell it =20 > is from a real living thing...something about it that is hard to =20 > pin point...better than human almost. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> Hi Kris >> >> I really loved the bugs! Excellent idea. >> >> The sounds did indeed sound "natural". Would be interesting to see =20= >> if anyone could tell a difference. >> >> Buzap >> >> --=20 >> Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! >> Ideal f=FCr Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 21:01:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D1A73BE8F; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <050901c8e52b$abc9e970$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <01b201c8e45c$de8d5e70$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20080713165231.31900@gmx.net> <04b001c8e50f$41dc83e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: CT-Collective "Bugs"! Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:01:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:01:53 +0000 (UTC) More here on "The Insect Musicians" http://www.discogs.com/release/146597 (30 to 35Euro) Download here: http://www.soundike.com/album/58947_Graeme_Revell_The_Insect_Musicians_mp3_download.html Buy also here: http://www.last.fm/music/Graeme+Revell/The+Insect+Musicians Is it all insect sounds and samples, or supplemented with them? I am gathering from one review that is has bass rhythms, etc, with insect samples. Kris ----- Original Message ----- ( I just now dialed in on this thread, so if the below has already been mentioned, please forgive my doing so.) Graeme Revell (SPK) used this same concept to make a brilliant album back in 1986 entitled "The Insect Musicians". He spent around 2 years traveling over much of the planet recording various insect sounds (or "songs"), and later a full year was devoted to sampling these recordings and processing the sounds to create the sound of "new musical instruments", using the early Fairlight Computer Musical Instrument, and then afterwards writing and recording the musical compositions. The album was available on both LP and CD. It may(?) still be around, so a search would be worth a try, at least. It has long been one of my more favorite albums. Good luck in finding it. It is WORTH IT! And yes, there is also some loopage involved. :-) All the best, -Rev.Fever Portland,OR On Jul 13, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Yes, I too found that a sort of naturalness came through the processing. > Sort of strange and organic. Like with my wasp piece, there are cases > where there are seveal octaves, delay, granular synthesize, processing > the wasp sounds, but you can still tell it is from a real living > thing...something about it that is hard to pin point...better than human > almost. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> Hi Kris >> >> I really loved the bugs! Excellent idea. >> >> The sounds did indeed sound "natural". Would be interesting to see if >> anyone could tell a difference. >> >> Buzap >> >> -- >> Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! >> Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 21:34:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 950C43BE8F; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ez6wXWQj2V4CFbLu+8gRC4nyXRuDOyAjKdpJZeOWdoo=; b=aiY50yvHpdJLpDxECNCcPTxrT1G8SMN3bUw/5163NOdPDtiQmuiFRAxJ+SeF15wZYk N/A4UoJrHwrx4O0rerMIGYeoY0bVIuBzzo/1D8NOmL2c/NRJ7Vm+48KcTmO5EStBsMN8 uer93ALkx86bcNGcGKakcgh8KCkFrN/Ju283Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=eRcj3oTZb2RAnCiyr73e+sfMg+ptI1rtriuSFPcI6oBy8HQHYbtwmTTE6IEBsPMzmC dMptFHsbbab+Cr31BoOAZCm6vITNy9qvOw2B+zqS0N3nFiV0THQhBZJFggzSf2nmptFx yYuAMr92mw9ShU498Ar41ZJUuqjM3J+h7itXE= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:34:19 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60807122017j4b77aa45s10ef4212e4d5ab42@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60807100851m43d0987asace2686446ad999b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807110759m5a5c2befvd99c2cfb0bce7956@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807120649v1b9a6934tde4f8202a38028f2@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c8e468$f7957cc0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60807122017j4b77aa45s10ef4212e4d5ab42@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Jim, The EH 2880 uses a non-MIDI pedal to control the funcitons ... while it can be controlled via MIDI, the reports on doing so make it sound less than desirable (to wit: http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Electro-Harmonix/2880/10/1 ). You might want to budget for that dedicated pedal ... Best, Dennis On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Jeff thanks. At this time I didn't get the remote pedal and it hit me after > your note that I have a 3 pedal midi unit that came with a mid-80's midi > guitar controller. If I configure it right would that not work as the > remote pedal? Beyond that I'm not using any midi devices these days > although I still have a TX81Z and a version of a 90's Sound Canvas, well > also a Yamaha S03(?) keyboard. You're triggering your drum machine in the > loop chain yes? I'm a bit naive about this stuff but is the pedal over midi > or is it some other kind of remote? > > Re Bugs/Up IN the Trees thanks, that was a fun project all manipulation from > a 6 second sample. I did a similar thing today from about a 60 second thing > that started as acoustic guitar that I flipped. > > Anyhow thanks for the encouragement and help on my new box, I'm excited > about the possibilities. > > Jim > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> >> Way to go, if you need the software update let me know, it fixes some sync >> problems and provides extensive midi control according to the note, I >> haven't used anything but syncing to a drum box. btw I'm listening now to >> "Up In The Trees" from the ct project Bugs Krispen just told us about, very >> cool crickets Jim. >> >> Jeff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jim Goodin >> To: Duke Sexton ; loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:49 AM >> Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work >> That's funny and yes my confusion that spliced you two guys together, I >> now remember Duke your last name but was hanging on to Duke and good to hear >> from you. Daryl and I have 4 CP shows here in NY and Boston (7/26 - Stain >> (Brooklyn), 7/27 - MudShop (NYC), 7/28 - ABC No Rio (NYC) and 8/2 - Kave >> (Boston Somerville) the latter with Dennis Moser, Tim Nelson and Rob Byrd) >> and I will tell him hey for you. >> >> To both of you a stroke of guardian angel luck came my way yesterday. >> From Jeff's encouragement I researched the 2880 a bit, began to look on eBay >> and found one that appeared to be some sort of 'factory second' deal that >> was a make offer thing. The seller had had previous 2880's and some other >> EH gear however their feedback was mixed. While hemming/hawing I hit >> Musicians Friend one more time yesterday thinking don't be 'penny wise pound >> foolish' and low and behold there was a 2880 Scratch/Dent for $310! I >> decided that was a message to me as I've bought other Scratch/Dent with good >> success so I bought it. So very jazzed about that and this new box. Thanks >> Jeff for the added info on this box and good to hear from you Duke. >> >> Thanks to all who offered me input the last few days. >> >> Jim >> >> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Duke Sexton wrote: >>> >>> At 10:59 AM -0400 7/11/08, Jim Goodin wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us [chinapainting] >>>> at Y2k last year, Saturday evening? There was a Jeff but I may have you >>>> mixed up. >>> >>> LOL! Hey Jim, Jeff Duke didn't perform after you guys last year; that >>> was me. It's not the "Jeff" you're finding familiar. It's the "Duke". ;) >>> >>> Anyway, hope things are going well, and wishing you luck on your looper >>> hunt. And tell Daryl I said "hi" when you talk to him next (I think I may >>> owe him an email, but then I'm always owing somebody an email, it seems). >>> >>> -- Duke. >> >> >> >> -- >> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> Chinapainting - >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Chinapainting on My Space - >> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - >> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >> Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay >> Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.9/1548 - Release Date: 7/12/2008 >> 7:40 AM > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars > - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay > Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 13 22:45:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ACDB3BE90; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <002001c8e528$c2ca0090$6601a8c0@williamsteed> Subject: RE: Harmonies...man Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:45:25 -0700 Message-ID: <001501c8e53a$272020e0$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C8E4FF.7AC148E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjlObgJX43gPt6VQ8SFWUZMOQkocwAAB4hg In-Reply-To: <002001c8e528$c2ca0090$6601a8c0@williamsteed> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <9u4uzD.A.0wF.KWoeIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:45:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C8E4FF.7AC148E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, I seem to have forgotten that boss makes a diatonic style harmonizer pedal, Doh! Haven't tried it though. Bill _____ From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:41 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Harmonies...man Yo! All of this talk of harmonizers both soft and hard had me waxing nostalgic for the old Digitech IPS33b harmonizer I used to own. For the last several years with the exception of Eventide, no one has made a dedicated diatonic capable instrument harmonizer, (though a few companies like Digitech and TC have offered vocal harmonizers that allowed an inserted instrument to determine the key of the vocal harmonies). The other day I got to try out the new Harmony Man stomp box from Digitech. The same size as a Digitech Jamman, the HM will do two part harmony that is key based (i.e. .intelligent), parallel harmonies, and detune effects. It is simple and strait forward, but offers very little editing other than control over which two intervals you want to use, over all mix, a quick key dial, and a handful of preset locations. It does have a cool "key learn feature that by depressing one of the two pedals, you can strum a chord and the HM will analyze it and change keys accordingly. It also has an insert for a distortion pedal, and an insert for another guitar that allows a second guitarist (or keyboardist) to control the key changes for you. Intelligent harmonies tracked very well, but got wiggy if you tried to play a chord. Parallel harmonies also did well and tracked chords better, the detune functions where OK, kind of a light chorusing that worked well when used in conjunction with a parallel upper octave to achieve a faux 12 string sound . I ran a reissue tube screamer in the distortion pedal loop and was able to achieve smooth singing harmonies. The HM also has a built in tune. This a pretty cool box that does what it does very well, and a bit cheaper than an Eclipse. Closet Wishbone Ash fans and Allman Bros and Queen junkies take note :-) Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C8E4FF.7AC148E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Actually, I seem to have forgotten = that boss makes a diatonic style harmonizer pedal, Doh! Haven’t tried = it though.

Bill

 

From: = William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 13, = 2008 1:41 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: = Harmonies...man

 

Yo!

 All of this talk of harmonizers both soft and = hard had me waxing nostalgic for the old Digitech IPS33b harmonizer I used to = own. For the last several years with the exception of Eventide, no one has made a = dedicated diatonic capable instrument harmonizer, (though a few companies like = Digitech and TC have offered vocal harmonizers that allowed an inserted = instrument to determine the key of the vocal harmonies). The other day I got to try = out the new Harmony Man stomp box from Digitech. The same size as a Digitech = Jamman, the HM will do two part harmony that is key based (i.e. .intelligent), = parallel harmonies, and detune effects. It is simple and strait forward, but = offers very little editing other than control over which two intervals you want to = use, over all mix, a quick key dial, and a handful of preset locations. It = does have a cool “key learn feature that by depressing one of the two = pedals, you can strum a chord and the HM will analyze it and change keys = accordingly. It also has an insert for a distortion pedal, and an insert for another = guitar that allows a second guitarist (or keyboardist) to control the key = changes for you. Intelligent harmonies tracked very well, but got wiggy if you tried = to play a chord. Parallel harmonies also did well and tracked chords = better, the detune functions where OK, kind of a light chorusing that worked well = when used in conjunction with a parallel upper octave to achieve a faux 12 string = sound . I ran a reissue tube screamer in the distortion pedal loop and was able = to achieve smooth singing harmonies.  The HM also has a built in tune. = This a pretty cool box that does what it does very well, and a bit cheaper than = an Eclipse. Closet Wishbone Ash fans and Allman Bros and Queen junkies take = note J

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C8E4FF.7AC148E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 01:20:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6D2B3BE8F; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=HTgB0PNZGnPHG7innWWysuw2aLhbAgGb+n0S5RvNxOA=; b=j2Kv3WyBiHfP00rT1mlLsZ1pgFnqu0nXQzDCql3XMbrOcOhtTSJT/y6gvhpwRXThIH zlV0piCXyVcihXF0ZDcRD3mSOLFjk7VeeJbKC+/79RzzwaQnWJZrx91b7KJKWAVx/MHO Lvl/UxuCrXPPM+f43N7nwtIAZvJ9TIqtXurqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=YwJjEgmpkcBUdhyhxsFSGv7S7AUhKu4d4any8L0VC88a31EfH8WO84LAj067b/S911 OBn6EBCiPb2geGv38E8VZW0iacYh2r3VMHy3LjQ90Xq0KNTRXT7YsMRebpRnA4HTzVTF G+Do3z3Px8EiwkhS2RjalHYzTYL10heHme7vY= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807131814u58fd980fv7a05391dcc6ffbbd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:14:03 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: was Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd In-Reply-To: <001901c8e517$82965d40$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10436_25303797.1215998043110" References: <027001c8e476$19785710$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <40343.60988.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60807130946y1bb09b10u5d3bb6c7b8b11169@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c8e516$9fbec520$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <001901c8e517$82965d40$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:20:08 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10436_25303797.1215998043110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Jeff that's great. I actually got mine as gift/promo from a producer at Ellipsis Arts when I did a track for them on a Sampler. We got to talking about experimental and he said have you heard... it's a great collection. thanks for finding that Jeff. Jim On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > > I actualy found it for sale and some more info here > http://www.ninestones.com/burntearth/media/gravikord.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jeff Duke > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:31 PM > *Subject:* Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd > > Here is a working link > http://rapidshare.com/files/14238401/gravikords_whirlies_pyrophones.rar > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:46 AM > *Subject:* Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd > > >snip > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_10436_25303797.1215998043110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Jeff that's great.  I actually got mine as gift/promo from a producer at Ellipsis Arts when I did a track for them on a Sampler.  We got to talking about experimental and he said have you heard...  it's a great collection. thanks for finding that Jeff.
 
Jim

On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Jeff Duke <echohead@embarqmail.com> wrote:
 
I actualy found it for sale and some more info here
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Duke
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd

Here is a working link
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Interactive Looping with Crowd

>snip



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_10436_25303797.1215998043110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 02:27:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B30143BE8B; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48791CA7.5090900@musicbymark.net> References: <48791CA7.5090900@musicbymark.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <957CCD0E-21B9-4C41-83B6-4E0CF96AA83C@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: DigiTech Harmonizer Vocalist 2 vs. 4? Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:27:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc25.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:27:14 +0000 (UTC) I have the Vocalist Live 4 and it is indeed very easy to use. The 2 has only 2 voices of harmony, the 4 has up to 4 (go figure). The thing I liked most about the 4 though was the ability to save presets. I haven't used the 2 but from the picture it looks like tweaking it with the grid of dedicated buttons might be slightly easier than the 4's matrix of parameter LEDs and knobs. But compared to a lot of other gear the 4 is still very easy to use and I couldn't live without presets. The thing I found disappointing about both the 2 and 4 is that there is no MIDI input for sending chord voicings with a keyboard controller, it only works with a guitar input. The guitar input works *VERY* well, I was completely blown away by how well it tracks. But if you're trying to duplicate something like Imogen's "Hide and Seek" you'll have trouble getting the exact chord voicings. I you just want to play guitar, sing, and sound like a bad Eagles cover band :-) this thing is wicked fun. If you want more control over chord voicings you might be happier with the rack mount version that offers MIDI input. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 02:54:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4E3E3BE88; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1216004069; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=i+ZDtc9t9X/0SuftST3jGWkiAhc=; b=fDgJY9lFfVlW1gwJf9/YYHYtqdHTZqjT28utm3uQGf9zikh9HKL6Wu2xxYG7Bgpd yc4xVhohtMfU6Tv+OGaBKoqgAQcMR2KdwrBo3WVxmQWrNQhsYqLvaatZ7+ukdE9W; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=66GQ-j6TMGcA:10 a=jRH9K6SCtW0A:10 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=hhhwLdTAAAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=DPgOdzIHAAAA:8 a=KCVmX8HyAAAA:8 a=s9ThSRKNAAAA:8 a=xAEii7aeAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=HsQgsuwGIs-uAdwmrzoA:9 a=XLnDXmk-cXYTTIR-yDEA:7 a=yXPJN8MBxV2ahgukYIh9lPgtZzcA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=o5_cSospHp4A:10 a=9XSpoOj3B7kA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c8e565$50e2d640$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60807091232id96275elfa02c8c6068422f5@mail.gmail.com> <001001c8e295$ca660ff0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60807100851m43d0987asace2686446ad999b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807110759m5a5c2befvd99c2cfb0bce7956@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807120649v1b9a6934tde4f8202a38028f2@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c8e468$f7957cc0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60807122017j4b77aa45s10ef4212e4d5ab42@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:54:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <_L43eD.A.EFB.l_reIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:54:29 +0000 (UTC) As stated below from Denniss HC link: >"For one, as the previous user reports, the external MIDI syncing and >quantization is well, kinda >screwy. Just try creating a new loop on the >fly with this thing as a slave device. After you record, the >loop >"wooshes" and sounds like it is struggling to find the correct tempo." With the software update this has not been the case. I mostly run it as slave when syncing to my drum box (Boss DR 670) It locks in perfectly solid right off the bat when quantized. >From the upgrade notes: "QUANTIZED LOOPING WHEN 2880 IS MIDI CLOCK SLAVE When the 2880 has EXT. CLOCK enabled and is therefore the MIDI Clock slave to another device, a fix has been made when Quantize mode is ON. If your MIDI master is continually sending MIDI Clock with MIDI Song Position Pointer data, the 2880 will read the MIDI SPP data and always start recording its loop on beat 1, as long as Quantize is set to on. It will also always end the loop recording on beat 1 of a bar so that the loop lengths are always x number of bars in length. This allows the user to more easily make loops that will be in sync with their MIDI master. Normally when the 2880 is the MIDI master and using Quantize mode, the 2880 will give a 4-beat count-in before recording a loop. The 2880 now will give a count-in based on the beat of the MIDI master. If you press the record button on the 2880 when the master is on beat 2 of a bar, the 2880 will begin its count-in on beat 2 so your count-in will consist of beats 2, 3 and 4, then start recording on the next beat 1." The only issue of course that half speed does not work in slave sync. Its a good solid master also. The 6 button footswitch is for me essential. I would like to try a good midi unit for individual track mute and other cool functions but I already have to much stuff on the floor. The first 3 tunes on my homepage are some excerpts of my early experiments with a drum box as master setup. http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/Lucid%20Nonsense.mp3 http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/Lapsed%20Pacifist.mp3 http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/Kiss%20This%20Then.mp3 Sorry for the ramble..just got off work, good night! Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Moser" To: Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work > Jim, > > The EH 2880 uses a non-MIDI pedal to control the funcitons ... while > it can be controlled via MIDI, the reports on doing so make it sound > less than desirable (to wit: > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Electro-Harmonix/2880/10/1 > ). You might want to budget for that dedicated pedal ... > > Best, > > Dennis > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Jim Goodin > wrote: >> Jeff thanks. At this time I didn't get the remote pedal and it hit me >> after >> your note that I have a 3 pedal midi unit that came with a mid-80's midi >> guitar controller. If I configure it right would that not work as the >> remote pedal? Beyond that I'm not using any midi devices these days >> although I still have a TX81Z and a version of a 90's Sound Canvas, well >> also a Yamaha S03(?) keyboard. You're triggering your drum machine in >> the >> loop chain yes? I'm a bit naive about this stuff but is the pedal over >> midi >> or is it some other kind of remote? >> >> Re Bugs/Up IN the Trees thanks, that was a fun project all manipulation >> from >> a 6 second sample. I did a similar thing today from about a 60 second >> thing >> that started as acoustic guitar that I flipped. >> >> Anyhow thanks for the encouragement and help on my new box, I'm excited >> about the possibilities. >> >> Jim >> >> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Jeff Duke >> wrote: >>> >>> Way to go, if you need the software update let me know, it fixes some >>> sync >>> problems and provides extensive midi control according to the note, I >>> haven't used anything but syncing to a drum box. btw I'm listening now >>> to >>> "Up In The Trees" from the ct project Bugs Krispen just told us about, >>> very >>> cool crickets Jim. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Jim Goodin >>> To: Duke Sexton ; loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:49 AM >>> Subject: Re: Jamman v Boss/self-promotion/new work >>> That's funny and yes my confusion that spliced you two guys together, I >>> now remember Duke your last name but was hanging on to Duke and good to >>> hear >>> from you. Daryl and I have 4 CP shows here in NY and Boston (7/26 - >>> Stain >>> (Brooklyn), 7/27 - MudShop (NYC), 7/28 - ABC No Rio (NYC) and 8/2 - Kave >>> (Boston Somerville) the latter with Dennis Moser, Tim Nelson and Rob >>> Byrd) >>> and I will tell him hey for you. >>> >>> To both of you a stroke of guardian angel luck came my way yesterday. >>> From Jeff's encouragement I researched the 2880 a bit, began to look on >>> eBay >>> and found one that appeared to be some sort of 'factory second' deal >>> that >>> was a make offer thing. The seller had had previous 2880's and some >>> other >>> EH gear however their feedback was mixed. While hemming/hawing I hit >>> Musicians Friend one more time yesterday thinking don't be 'penny wise >>> pound >>> foolish' and low and behold there was a 2880 Scratch/Dent for $310! I >>> decided that was a message to me as I've bought other Scratch/Dent with >>> good >>> success so I bought it. So very jazzed about that and this new box. >>> Thanks >>> Jeff for the added info on this box and good to hear from you Duke. >>> >>> Thanks to all who offered me input the last few days. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Duke Sexton wrote: >>>> >>>> At 10:59 AM -0400 7/11/08, Jim Goodin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm trying to connect your name did you perform after us >>>>> [chinapainting] >>>>> at Y2k last year, Saturday evening? There was a Jeff but I may have >>>>> you >>>>> mixed up. >>>> >>>> LOL! Hey Jim, Jeff Duke didn't perform after you guys last year; that >>>> was me. It's not the "Jeff" you're finding familiar. It's the "Duke". >>>> ;) >>>> >>>> Anyway, hope things are going well, and wishing you luck on your looper >>>> hunt. And tell Daryl I said "hi" when you talk to him next (I think I >>>> may >>>> owe him an email, but then I'm always owing somebody an email, it >>>> seems). >>>> >>>> -- Duke. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >>> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >>> Chinapainting - >>> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>> Chinapainting on My Space - >>> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >>> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - >>> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >>> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >>> Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel >>> Bay >>> Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.9/1548 - Release Date: >>> 7/12/2008 >>> 7:40 AM >> >> >> >> -- >> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> Chinapainting - >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Chinapainting on My Space - >> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - >> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >> Guitars >> - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay >> Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1549 - Release Date: 7/12/2008 > 4:31 PM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 03:33:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D83B83BE8B; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:35:39 -0500 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: DigiTech Harmonizer Vocalist 2 vs. 4? In-reply-to: <957CCD0E-21B9-4C41-83B6-4E0CF96AA83C@zonemobius.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <5CE2B6C4-7D59-498C-A9E5-09FED01FF27D@midway.uchicago.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <48791CA7.5090900@musicbymark.net> <957CCD0E-21B9-4C41-83B6-4E0CF96AA83C@zonemobius.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8oC7MD.A.3qB.1jseIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone compared the Digitech vocalist stuff to TC-Helicon's offerings (Voiceworks, Voiceworks Plus, etc.)? Just curious if the TC-Helicon is worth the extra $$ or not. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 05:43:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA1143BE85; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=li/BgZaDpP31zEBo042BKygOEUZZPlZUue0PTZN/f/Q=; b=JnXkeVjE4oLK5pqA7jF44WfUosDUVVXthJhq/M2OE5wL0gcDRDzG3YWchbkeAmLQ3M kJQ9LNdqU7p6umtbaQFSew3NZt0i4paoiq9EYsPSsOCcjwK0Q3+Q+371UbHbougQCcm7 3Y3G9l0C5/OVfjuVeDqiWfZIdp8ZqpSsmcp3E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZPKcQl+n0MSfWHd8xftBesTgX8ow9V3/tbBuagys62a4YALE9kI2PG3KSHAWtmT3e4 2PTW+liV2CAo4x973C71vwFIPxXn/T8s8uff1yTrlmEE1TXrnwZJKsKIwFBfY6jMb+iO KGaZfa64eRWTm4JuHDd68+MRnLwKCB4eKLrhs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:43:52 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Harmonies...man In-Reply-To: <001501c8e53a$272020e0$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_62128_23291156.1216014232636" References: <002001c8e528$c2ca0090$6601a8c0@williamsteed> <001501c8e53a$272020e0$6601a8c0@williamsteed> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:43:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_62128_23291156.1216014232636 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cheesy one in my GT-3 ... 2008/7/14 William Walker : > Actually, I seem to have forgotten that boss makes a diatonic style > harmonizer pedal, Doh! Haven't tried it though. > > Bill > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:41 PM > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* Harmonies...man > > > > Yo! > > All of this talk of harmonizers both soft and hard had me waxing nostalgic > for the old Digitech IPS33b harmonizer I used to own. For the last several > years with the exception of Eventide, no one has made a dedicated diatonic > capable instrument harmonizer, (though a few companies like Digitech and TC > have offered vocal harmonizers that allowed an inserted instrument to > determine the key of the vocal harmonies). The other day I got to try out > the new Harmony Man stomp box from Digitech. The same size as a Digitech > Jamman, the HM will do two part harmony that is key based (i.e. > .intelligent), parallel harmonies, and detune effects. It is simple and > strait forward, but offers very little editing other than control over which > two intervals you want to use, over all mix, a quick key dial, and a handful > of preset locations. It does have a cool "key learn feature that by > depressing one of the two pedals, you can strum a chord and the HM will > analyze it and change keys accordingly. It also has an insert for a > distortion pedal, and an insert for another guitar that allows a second > guitarist (or keyboardist) to control the key changes for you. Intelligent > harmonies tracked very well, but got wiggy if you tried to play a chord. > Parallel harmonies also did well and tracked chords better, the detune > functions where OK, kind of a light chorusing that worked well when used in > conjunction with a parallel upper octave to achieve a faux 12 string sound . > I ran a reissue tube screamer in the distortion pedal loop and was able to > achieve smooth singing harmonies. The HM also has a built in tune. This a > pretty cool box that does what it does very well, and a bit cheaper than an > Eclipse. Closet Wishbone Ash fans and Allman Bros and Queen junkies take > note J > > Bill > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_62128_23291156.1216014232636 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cheesy one in my GT-3 ... 

2008/7/14 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>:

Actually, I seem to have forgotten that boss makes a diatonic style harmonizer pedal, Doh! Haven't tried it though.

Bill

 

From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:41 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Harmonies...man

 

Yo!

 All of this talk of harmonizers both soft and hard had me waxing nostalgic for the old Digitech IPS33b harmonizer I used to own. For the last several years with the exception of Eventide, no one has made a dedicated diatonic capable instrument harmonizer, (though a few companies like Digitech and TC have offered vocal harmonizers that allowed an inserted instrument to determine the key of the vocal harmonies). The other day I got to try out the new Harmony Man stomp box from Digitech. The same size as a Digitech Jamman, the HM will do two part harmony that is key based (i.e. .intelligent), parallel harmonies, and detune effects. It is simple and strait forward, but offers very little editing other than control over which two intervals you want to use, over all mix, a quick key dial, and a handful of preset locations. It does have a cool "key learn feature that by depressing one of the two pedals, you can strum a chord and the HM will analyze it and change keys accordingly. It also has an insert for a distortion pedal, and an insert for another guitar that allows a second guitarist (or keyboardist) to control the key changes for you. Intelligent harmonies tracked very well, but got wiggy if you tried to play a chord. Parallel harmonies also did well and tracked chords better, the detune functions where OK, kind of a light chorusing that worked well when used in conjunction with a parallel upper octave to achieve a faux 12 string sound . I ran a reissue tube screamer in the distortion pedal loop and was able to achieve smooth singing harmonies.  The HM also has a built in tune. This a pretty cool box that does what it does very well, and a bit cheaper than an Eclipse. Closet Wishbone Ash fans and Allman Bros and Queen junkies take note J

Bill




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TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_62128_23291156.1216014232636-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 06:53:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A1E73BE85; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3880 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:53:46 UTC Message-ID: <001d01c8e575$58273d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: RE: Harmonies...man Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:49:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Me bro wrote: "Actually, I seem to have forgotten that boss makes a diatonic style harmonizer pedal, Doh! Haven't tried it though." Actually, after being really unhappy with my old school Digitech Red Whammy pedal, I discovered that the Boss PS-5 Super Shifter has both simple intelligent harmonizing capabilities and simple parallel shifting capabilities as well. I love the 'theremin effect' that one can get with the expression pedal on the old Digitech Red Whammy pedal (which actually has some beautiful and very musical artifacts in it if you have the original one) but it was just so damned noisy that it compromised my whole chain of effects; exacerbatet by having an AKG C1000s condenser microphone at it's start) so I was thrilled to discover that the BOSS PS-5 has an expression pedal in. I just used it as my only 'effect' on my Europe/UK tour and loved it. There's nothing like getting a single dayglo orange frisbee to be a kick drum and any pitch of tom tom that you want! You have to predetermine which scale you want to have harmonized so I didn't find it all that helpful (due to the fact that I was mostly using found sound sources) but I didn't delve to heavily into that world. I also like the forcing of suspended and dissonant harmonies by using paralell or incorrectly harmonized pitches, so it produced some very 'happy' accidents. The quality of the sound, however, was excellent, it has low noise (way quiter than the Digitech) and I can highly recommend the pedal. I love artifacts so much that I'm even considering buying a second one to put in the chain. I love screwing up the sound by pitch shifting down two octaves and then taking the results and pitch shifting back up two octaves. You get the same pitch you began with including a lot of juicy and weird artifacts. ********************** And, while we're at it, I also had read that the relatively new and ludicrously cheap Danelectro Chili Dog Octaver pedal tracked better and had a cleaner sound than the tried and true brown Boss Octaver and the rumors were completely true. You can get them for only $29 USD (that's like 5 Euros right............................lol) through Musicians Friend or , preferably, your local independent music store. Arild Andersen borrowed mine and made me sell it to him after A-Bing the Boss and the Chili Dog. It has three knobs for normal sound, one octave down and two octaves down and it really tracks nicely..............one of the best deals in all stompboxdom. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 07:26:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 555C23BE90; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=TBbYAgTWNQWqzb9QlzYKnILgVnYk8C2cu5Jnzbz3FNc=; b=B+jLvRqMXXBJ0hDV6060f3JEbJqrYgNpu3I6nArbhUpDIB1khKvuMAnIM7QtvHR5/4 5DjqC8306fMdOM6JXTUNLWoqV3iILtsK8KI6jZoiTzHDqbUgcg+wjJytzkLn31PLyZS4 +Pct8dwkOJKDV7kAhB/I8K74ddO47H72llXlo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=a3P3gUKEKpgY89gVn9N5c3XQuyapD4yXJToXQAWQPdvDLtA3G7YhTmb37K3kgTRlCy 3S0oG2QnY5l07A0rlyXx2/6DUlZEaXUFLsfGgPEYv7yHIKRnwBU9aD1HAB6m9+WIbMar B3DU6X+FI1fk9T1ekkUaomJan1K+1dUAjJnbQ= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0807140026o33ceed31te51fc43b169022db@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:26:57 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Harmonies...man In-Reply-To: <001d01c8e575$58273d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34179_11631434.1216020417295" References: <001d01c8e575$58273d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a76038d638221bb7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:26:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_34179_11631434.1216020417295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just another vote for the Boss PS-5 Super Shifter, I like Rick love to use this pedal, infact there is rarely a time that im not pitched a bit by it. I also like to use it as a theramin, buy actually dont use a pedal, I just grab the knob and twist, as it has built in pitched intervals (cant say if its a real scale on what...) you can "play" the knob.. thats all i wanted to say... ------=_Part_34179_11631434.1216020417295 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just another vote for the Boss PS-5 Super Shifter, I like Rick love to use this pedal, infact there is rarely a time that im not pitched a bit by it. I also like to use it as a theramin, buy actually dont use a pedal, I just grab the knob and twist, as it has built in pitched intervals (cant say if its a real scale on what...) you can "play" the knob..

thats all i wanted to say... ------=_Part_34179_11631434.1216020417295-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 07:35:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C58A3BE93; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=E+wQzkN09ZzoQ3ydV9/1uvVGf0yNN5dDeXxbVT6NZwRevh2Ubxvd20kEvygplOGntvKSLJ8jfdj+N/RrkJr2dO78Zy2rNOCaDXI0nOfq6nfFiBtTGRfgqQCT+EX3ZZmds7wXyk92Pv+bHBcLolksDQRa3S55EJS18crSg80EPL4=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:35:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: DigiTech Vocalist 2 vs.TC Harmony G quick review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5CE2B6C4-7D59-498C-A9E5-09FED01FF27D@midway.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <601216.10515.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Hey Jeff, Ive been working with the Digitech vocalist 2 for over a year and i just ordered the new TC harmony G and been testing both of them.In fact i just did a gigi yesterday with it. here is my 2 cents: The new tc harmony g has 5 presets with a convenient B alternative which is very useful if you are doing 2 different types of harmony in a song so you can switch back and forth by pressing one button,it also has effects with presets and there are also 2 outputs on it. The Digitech is a no brainer,plug it in and play,all manual no prests or programing involved choose manually a harmony and a reverb then enhance it,compress it and go.For more details you can read about them and watch videos,manuals etc. But now as far as sound goes: with all the bells and whistles that the tc offers,the digitech beats it,it sounds more clear seems to have stonger output and the effect sounds crispier and it sounds more natural overall.The TC has a "tone" button to compress and enhance the overall sound with 3 different types of prests but to my ears it sucks,it either sounds to brittle or to muddy. Tracking: both seem to track similar although the digitech seems to track the high harmonies better and the tc tracks the lower better.I did a heavy test singing some 3 part harmony stuff with both and the TC can handle it better than the digitech,however when using one harmony only they react differently,for instance when you play an Em chord and sing an A note on top to resolve to the Em,the digitech harmonises it with a C and the TC with a D.To me the digitech way is better because if i want to harmonise with a minor 7th i just fret it on the guitar which feels natural otherwise having to fret the c note on top of an e minor while singing is to me kind of ackward. On the other hand the tc has cool presets with octaves and a bass voice preset which can be used as a drone.What i dislike is that the effects cannot be tweaked so you are stucked with choosing a preset and you can only increase the level.The digitech has however reverb only. I dont know if i am going to keep the TC and get rid of the Digitech,another big advantage of the TC is its size,it fits nicely on a pedalboard.The price difference should be no object,here in germany is only about 50.-eur. difference.After testing them i suppose the decision should be based more on sound vs. versatility. I should also tell you that i tested the digitech with my trumpet player last night at a gig,i hooked it up on the aux. of my mixer sending him my guitar signal so he could play 2 trumpet harmonies while i was playing and singig.I noticed that the harmoniser reacts better when singing,that is the harmonies can be heard better than when playing a reed instrument,even though he uses an akg clip microphone directly into his horn.No special IQ harmonisers for reed players yet,right? cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > From: Jeff Shirkey > Subject: Re: DigiTech Harmonizer Vocalist 2 vs. 4? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 8:35 PM > Has anyone compared the Digitech vocalist stuff to > TC-Helicon's > offerings (Voiceworks, Voiceworks Plus, etc.)? > > Just curious if the TC-Helicon is worth the extra $$ or > not. > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 07:46:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B6ED3BE98; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=VYVOrkE5H9t603dzcZyZC/IIhhQ4GrasOscvwJJL0GdNOhyUd+cnlmNh3Z7ZWnPG5DE+cW6buB9sgSp4pQi8Wh9FRn183SCJndsbPgx/XNdiyVkaq4Gz/BOAmJIJo8NEDAZdJUkmVnw/4rIIMLuysmtBX8CpDedFuHKCsWHhUc8=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:46:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: Re: DigiTech Vocalist 2 vs.TC Harmony G quick review To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <304411.15912.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Hey Jeff, Ive been working with the Digitech vocalist 2 for over a year and i just ordered the new TC harmony G and been testing both of them.In fact i just did a gigi yesterday with it. here is my 2 cents: The new tc harmony g has 5 presets with a convenient B alternative which is very useful if you are doing 2 different types of harmony in a song so you can switch back and forth by pressing one button,it also has effects with presets and there are also 2 outputs on it. The Digitech is a no brainer,plug it in and play,all manual no prests or programing involved choose manually a harmony and a reverb then enhance it,compress it and go.For more details you can read about them and watch videos,manuals etc. But now as far as sound goes: with all the bells and whistles that the tc offers,the digitech beats it,it sounds more clear seems to have stonger output and the effect sounds crispier and it sounds more natural overall.The TC has a "tone" button to compress and enhance the overall sound with 3 different types of prests but to my ears it sucks,it either sounds to brittle or to muddy. Tracking: both seem to track similar although the digitech seems to track the high harmonies better and the tc tracks the lower better.I did a heavy test singing some 3 part harmony stuff with both and the TC can handle it better than the digitech,however when using one harmony only they react differently,for instance when you play an Em chord and sing an A note on top to resolve to the Em,the digitech harmonises it with a C and the TC with a D.To me the digitech way is better because if i want to harmonise with a minor 7th i just fret it on the guitar which feels natural otherwise having to fret the c note on top of an e minor while singing is to me kind of ackward. On the other hand the tc has cool presets with octaves and a bass voice preset which can be used as a drone.What i dislike is that the effects cannot be tweaked so you are stucked with choosing a preset and you can only increase the level.The digitech has however reverb only. I dont know if i am going to keep the TC and get rid of the Digitech,another big advantage of the TC is its size,it fits nicely on a pedalboard.The price difference should be no object,here in germany is only about 50.-eur. difference.After testing them i suppose the decision should be based more on sound vs. versatility. I alsoi tested the digitech with my trumpet player last night at a gig,i hooked it up on the aux. of my mixer sending him my guitar signal so he could play 2 trumpet harmonies while i was playing and singig.I noticed that the harmoniser reacts better when singing, the harmonies can be heard better than when playing a reed instrument,even though he uses an akg clip microphone directly into his horn.No special IQ harmonisers for reed players yet,right? cheers Luis > > From: Jeff Shirkey > > > Subject: Re: DigiTech Harmonizer Vocalist 2 vs. 4? > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 8:35 PM > > Has anyone compared the Digitech vocalist stuff to > > TC-Helicon's > > offerings (Voiceworks, Voiceworks Plus, etc.)? > > > > Just curious if the TC-Helicon is worth the extra $$ > or > > not. > > > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 11:58:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB2A3BE86; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:58:39 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807140026o33ceed31te51fc43b169022db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080714115839.69020@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <001d01c8e575$58273d00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <9ab0c76f0807140026o33ceed31te51fc43b169022db@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Harmonies...man To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/wPYMKWoXw4Vy0t75sxmdbnM2OOtr/qfeiIAEOBC IBFiBQNugBJXZ25CXEEqWte2eqz11x9EJ3fg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: XUVOIJ1wZDIrG8cogWc2rMZ5emhmY4Fe Resent-Message-ID: <3NGbVC.A.cjH.y9zeIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:58:42 +0000 (UTC) My Zoom G2.1u has really nice pitch shifting features. You can choose between "normal" pitch shift, harmonic pitch shift (according to base tone & scale), it also has a designated mono pitch shifter (which I use as an octaver). When it comes to vocal harmonics, however, I prefer to add them layer by layer to the loop. To me it seems to be more conving. Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 12:44:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CD9A3BE87; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBNE4OxT5U Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: Re: moebius questions Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:44:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acjlr2txXxaePUofRSysvu+wY9nh7Q== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Tilmann said: > yes, that was my question, but: > my halfspeed button will just stay halfspeed and not switch back... Sorry, that was me being unattentive here... There are three different commands in Mobius for controlling the speed: "Speed", "Half Speed" and "Full Speed" Of those, "Speed" will toggle as described (and as implemented in most other loopers). "Half Speed" will switch a loop to half speed which has been at Full Speed - which explains the behaviour you encountered. Normally when playing interactively, you won't need "Half Speed" and "Full Speed" in your controls (but ymmv). Those commands make most sense as part of scripts. 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Attention please,

I am Mrs Gloria Compaore the bank manager of BANK OF AFRICA (BOA)
BURKINA FASOWEST AFRICA BRANCH.

I am contacting you based on Trust and confidentiality that you will
keep this as top secret and don't be scared or surprised, i am the
manager of BANK OF AFRICA and i have an opportunity to transfer sum of
US$10.5MILLION (TEN MILLION FIVE HUNDRED UNITED STATE DOLLARS) I have
the courage to look for a reliable and Honest Person who will be
capable for this important business Transaction, believing that you
will never let me down either now or in Future.

The owner of this account is MR RON MORRIS, foreigner and he is the
Manager Of petrol chemical service, a chemical engineer by
Proffession.He died with his entire family were among the victims of
December 25, 2003 Air-Crash Incident in Benin , The bank has made
series of efforts to contact any of the relatives to claim this money
but without success, you can confirm through this website:

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa/12/26/benin.crash/ and my
Investigation proved to me as well that his company does not know
anything About this account. I want to transfer this money into a safe
foreign account abroad but I Don't know any foreigner,I know that this
message will come to you as a surprise as we don't know ourselves
before,but be sure that it is real And A Genuine business. hope that
you will never let me down in this transaction, at the conclusion of
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------=_Part_30861_16665286.1216041258099-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 14:41:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C2843BE8F; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:41:42 EDT Subject: Re: Harmonies...man To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cb4.387ecb06.35acbfa6_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:41:46 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cb4.387ecb06.35acbfa6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i use the "pitch shifters" if that is indeed what they are on my two INEKOS.....one pre loop and one post loop.....love the knobs, i never know what will happen when i spin them.....perhaps like me they are not "intelligent".....but that's how i like it.....:).....m p.s. pittsburgh's first live looping xtravagoonsa this friday the 18th. featuring daryl shaw, brian good, steven guerrero and klobuchar.....@ the international childrens art gallery, 5020 penn ave. (the garfield area).....8:00 pm.....be there or be not there! "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) --part1_cb4.387ecb06.35acbfa6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i use the "pitch shifters" if that is i= ndeed what they are on my two INEKOS.....one pre loop and one post loop.....= love the knobs, i never know what will happen when i spin them.....perhaps l= ike me they are not "intelligent".....but that's how i like it.....:).....m<= BR> p.s. pittsburgh's first live looping xtravagoonsa this friday the 18th. feat= uring daryl shaw, brian good, steven guerrero and klobuchar.....@ the intern= ational childrens art gallery, 5020 penn ave. (the garfield area).....8:00 p= m.....be there or be not there!

"one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY

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(http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=3Daolmus00050000000112) --part1_cb4.387ecb06.35acbfa6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 15:41:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D34E13BE87; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000801c8e5c8$3a2ff320$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: Subject: Re: moebius questions Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:42:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18RP1bf6gsNIcPW7M+8tZv/I7F2jcokRCj8+AB iKCQe5KliIFL69vl/6NtlhFWx9VdgFQ7Mfe+b/ezkYR57npAdj sJUNbKhIuw0nELKP5JeSIM7HQW4zCzU Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:41:49 +0000 (UTC) alrighdee right, i will try the function "speed" then. thanx a lot! tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:44 PM Subject: Re: moebius questions > Tilmann said: >> yes, that was my question, but: >> my halfspeed button will just stay halfspeed and not switch back... > > Sorry, that was me being unattentive here... > > There are three different commands in Mobius for controlling the speed: > "Speed", "Half Speed" and "Full Speed" > > Of those, "Speed" will toggle as described (and as implemented in most > other > loopers). > "Half Speed" will switch a loop to half speed which has been at Full > Speed - > which explains the behaviour you encountered. > > Normally when playing interactively, you won't need "Half Speed" and "Full > Speed" in your controls (but ymmv). Those commands make most sense as part > of scripts. > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 16:37:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E54863BE8F; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 397 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:37:44 UTC X-YMail-OSG: awPNtwsVM1mD4CCuFl1LDKVQrtv0m1WjzqHeR33YZ2D763X9MwhjrQUekBt.tbBSUitzWuBLj.sY8nFfht_Qi1VtzWDLoZ526Q-- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:31:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Wegmann Subject: Re: Harmonies...man To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1093311852-1216053064=:27406" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <744909.27406.qm@web84102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:37:44 +0000 (UTC) --0-1093311852-1216053064=:27406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wish I could be there.... Sounds like a great time but too much family things going on down here in West Virginia. Peace, Weg in WV Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: i use the "pitch shifters" if that is indeed what they are on my two INEKOS.....one pre loop and one post loop.....love the knobs, i never know what will happen when i spin them.....perhaps like me they are not "intelligent".....but that's how i like it.....:).....m p.s. pittsburgh's first live looping xtravagoonsa this friday the 18th. featuring daryl shaw, brian good, steven guerrero and klobuchar.....@ the international childrens art gallery, 5020 penn ave. (the garfield area).....8:00 pm.....be there or be not there! "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) My URL http://www.myspace.com/noyestheater My Blog URL http://blog.myspace.com/noyestheater --0-1093311852-1216053064=:27406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Wish I could be there.... Sounds like a great time but too much family things going on down here in West Virginia.
 
Peace,
Weg in WV

Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:
i use the "pitch shifters" if that is indeed what they are on my two INEKOS.....one pre loop and one post loop.....love the knobs, i never know what will happen when i spin them.....perhaps like me they are not "intelligent".....but that's how i like it.....:).....m
p.s. pittsburgh's first live looping xtravagoonsa this friday the 18th. featuring daryl shaw, brian good, steven guerrero and klobuchar.....@ the international childrens art gallery, 5020 penn ave. (the garfield area).....8:00 pm.....be there or be not there!

"one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY

new groovy tunes at:
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collective.com





**************
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http://blog.myspace.com/noyestheater --0-1093311852-1216053064=:27406-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 17:11:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14D893BE8F; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=SZWi34J4KWtRdX4c26SJztOg+m2+A+I57ecHAAHT30U=; b=pLrEXmGcXsPpkAiw/S0dHrszOJnL9t85e8OyIljKrE9hutDEiZwG/WDI8XWyZA6len it/+nAw3yq1hL2HImlfpMlcsB+T4a21gUL+N24EqMNRpSWDvFBFipeMBqLel7qLP9v1r 9BY9TxEJW/k9lxL1pvRnhDXYraYGkUeMOW5vU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mPL4lbyifrFxpPyYu7t/++poXuy20BWfyMO1yXXypNjGTHaYPNhAIcKUHd1l9M7l+e clXjSXo2Zclvhl/Q2W7S615XWYB0PzzCo9uFkXvYSRVzCxY0//kRYaMIpcCYy0CgpwoD 8Tv++ikPoed+SpMhDqrkrF/uUrrF2S1Yb7EcA= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807141011x441dd785m5b638890d545cfa7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:11:26 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: moebius questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:11:27 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > Normally when playing interactively, you won't need "Half Speed" and "Full > Speed" in your controls (but ymmv). Those commands make most sense as part > of scripts. > > Rainer Yep. Just want to add that when talking scripting you can set any interval by Rate (it's actually called "Rate" in Mobius, not "Speed"). For example a script with "Rate -5" would pitch down from sounding C to G five semitones below (as well as making the loop a little longer. If keeping the same length - by applying also Time Stretch - it's called "Pitch" in Mobius). A nice pro in using scripts for Rate is that you can also through in a Realign command to keep loop starts synced (if needed). -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From pcgoug@red.com Mon Jul 14 18:24:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5938 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:24:13 UTC Received: from smtp2a.orange.fr (smtp2a.orange.fr [80.12.242.139]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098793BE82; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2a.orange.fr (mwinf2a23 [10.232.16.123]) by mwinf2a10.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AA6781C82F62; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:45:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a23.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6A8A170000AA; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:45:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from User (ARouen-153-1-23-221.w90-17.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.17.166.221]) by mwinf2a23.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 3CC417000046; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:45:04 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080714164504248.3CC417000046@mwinf2a23.orange.fr Reply-To: pcgoug@red.com From: PayPal Subject: Security Measures! 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GWIDVGGFXWWEMQRWMLDESOREKBVCITGUPNDKFT From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 14 18:40:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80F413BE82; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUEAP84e0hMRB2e/2dsb2JhbACDXDSHRqAdAw Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" Subject: 07.16.08 > The PiNG presents SPACED on the DANFORTH w Geek Weekend, The Devil In The Design & General Chaos Visuals Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:40:16 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000001c8e5e1$0fb4ab40$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:40:23 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hi Everyone! Don't forget to join us this Wednesday July 16th when=20 we host an eastern PiNG at The Renaissance Caf=E9 which is another=20 fine pro art space suited to the PiNG. There's room to socialize with=20 comfy chairs, a couch or two and a small patio out front. Plus there's=20 more couches up near the performance space for those who want to=20 focus in the ambience created by the good friends we've invited to=20 perform. In between are tables and chairs along the bar which has=20 great beer on tap plus gourmet coffee and munchies available.=20 For those who haven't been yet, The Renaissance Caf=E9 is located=20 on the north side of the Danforth just a bit west of the Woodbine=20 Subway station on the Bloor/Danforth line. So this Wednesday evening, head east young PiNGers as we're=20 really looking forward to seeing y'all again! ~ Cheers, Scott M2 and Jamie P.S. Scroll down for info on THE AMBiENT PiNG's=20 NiNTH ANNiVERSARY show on August 20th. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THiS WEDNESDAY JULY 16th . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents SPACED ON THE DANFORTH with THE DEVIL IN THE DESIGN,=20 GEEK WEEKEND and GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ The Renaissance Caf=E9 . 1938 Danforth Avenue . north side,=20 2 blocks west of the Woodbine Subway . Map and directions=20 at: http://www.renaissancecafe.ca/map.htm =20 PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set is at 8:30 . $6 / PayWhatYouCan =20 =20 . For July 16th, Phil Ogison (The Devil In The Design) is presenting=20 four works entitled, 'Behind the seen'. The concept for this project=20 is an exploration of situationist views of landscape and structures in a historical framework. These pre-recorded/live element works are comprised of found sound collected around the Toronto Harborfront and archival spoken word samples, digitally manipulated and arranged with the addition of live electric guitar and keyboard synthesizer. For this occasion, ten limited edition studio copies of 'Behind the seen' will be available for the price of $5.00 each. The event will be recorded live in both audio and digital video format, to be made available at a later date online. This project is part of an forthcoming co-release with Hotel Nuclear / AZT (Ronconfreddo I, Berlin D, and Noyon Fr), a project of Martha Zapparoli (penelope x) and Giancarlo Bianchini (AZT) part of the "Arto-Zat" group, a cultural association concerned with promotions of artistic research and is composed of artists, musicians, video makers. http://www.myspace.com/ogison=20 http://www.myspace.com/hotelnuclear http://www.myspace.com/thedevilinthedesign . Geek Weekend is back for another summer sizzler. Robert Hoare (Berlin) and Steven Sauv=E9 (Hamilton) look forward to bringing you all manner of sultry sounds, drenched in absurdity, and dripping with irony. No computers have been harmed in the making of this music. ADVISORY: Random processes are used throughout the performance. http://www.karmafarm.ca http://www.robhoare.de . Eye candy for the evening will be courtesy of our friendly=20 neighbourhood light painters - General Chaos Visuals.=20 http://www.generalchaosvisuals.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG WEDNESDAY AUGUST 20th 2008 . THE AMBiENT PiNG's=20 NiNTH ANNiVERSARY with mara's torment, PHOLDE,=20 WHISPER ROOM and GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ The Central . 603 Markham St . 1 block from the Bathurst subway Map, info and directions at: http://www.thecentral.ca/info.php PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 / PayWhatYouCan . For the PiNG's NiNTH ANNiVERSARY we're returning to our other=20 comfy space, The Central which is west and south of the Bathurst=20 and Bloor Subway station around the corner from Honest Ed's. Like past anniversary shows, we've invited some good friends=20 who have played a large part in the PiNG's history to perform.=20 The sonics will be provided by mara's torment (rik maclean from=20 ping things), Pholde (Alan Bloor from Knurl) and Whisper Room=20 (Aidan Baker from Nadja + ARC, Neil Wiernik aka Naw, and Jakob Thiesen from Students + The Reversibles.) Of course=20 it wouldn't be an anniversary show without the light painting=20 of General Chaos Visuals, so Chaos' Stephen Lindsey and=20 Eric Siegerman will be returning for their sixth PiNG=20 anniversary show appearance to light up the room. mara's torment: http://www.marastorment.com Pholde: http://www.pholde.com Aidan Baker: http://www.myspace.com/aidanbakermusic Neil Wiernik: http://www.phoniq.net Jakob Thiesen: http://www.virb.com/students General Chaos Visuals: http://www.generalchaosvisuals.com Stay tuned, more details in the next PiNG email. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ping things is proud to present its third net label release! "Aqua" by Andrew Duke is a long form abstract electronic=20 piece exploring themes of loss and ritual. Fluid and emotive,=20 "Aqua" is another fine work from one of Canada's premier=20 electronic artists. "Aqua" by Andrew Duke is available for free download as=20 a 72Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality=20 256kbps mp3 format along with front cover and tray card=20 art suitable for printing in both jpg and psd formats.=20 The music on this release is copyright Andrew Duke 2008=20 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's=20 express permission. If you like the work of Andrew Duke,=20 check out his website at http://www.andrew-duke.com New releases will be added to the ping things site on the=20 22nd of each month. In the coming months you'll be able=20 to download exclusive work from Nunc Stans, Ortiz, NAW,=20 Building Castles out of Matchsticks, Remora and more. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Check out the AMBiENT PiNG RADiO podcast. Currently=20 posted are the ALMOST LiVE SERiES sets by MWVM, NAW,=20 Panoramaroid, Remora, Resonant Drift, Salvagesound,=20 and URM. Also posted are the ping things net label releases=20 by Spatial Correlation ("Les Landes"), Phil Ogison=20 ("The Perfect City") and Andrew Duke ("Aqua"). http://www.ambientpingradio.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, chillout, trip hop, dream pop, downtempo, space, darkwave, drone and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com Tune in to AMBiENT PING RADiO at: http://www.ambientpingradio.com ViSiT ping things for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 02:18:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E78183BE8A; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=FckkqlrVKg69kVX+5y80CSMSYcHZ0eYPy6t/0emXbaa2jN1j4qpeMzfU06kjbHKU; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: Cara Quinn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5CE2B6C4-7D59-498C-A9E5-09FED01FF27D@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: Re: DigiTech Harmonizer Vocalist 2 vs. 4? Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:18:02 -0700 References: <48791CA7.5090900@musicbymark.net> <957CCD0E-21B9-4C41-83B6-4E0CF96AA83C@zonemobius.com> <5CE2B6C4-7D59-498C-A9E5-09FED01FF27D@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b863c64b7cad57866423f13a3a05d4c239a348a220c26094c435b627522b8456cbf638d750fe2e7666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.94.193.196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:18:04 +0000 (UTC) I haven't had the chance to A/B both, but I own the Digitech Studio =20= Vocalist EX, which is amazingly cool btw, and I know that IVL is =20 responsible for the actual harmonizer sections of both the Studio =20 Vocalist EX and the TC Helicon VoicePrism and VoicePrism+. (not sure =20= about the Voice Works, but I'd assume same) One diff between the Studio Vocalist EX and the Prism is that the =20 EX also does pitch correction on the dry signal, whereas the Prism =20 does not. However, the Prism+ has a whole host of other vocal =20 modeling capabilities which the EX does not. Also, (supposedly) the Prism does not have the ability (as the EX =20 does) of allowing midi data in a limited range to effect the input =20 pitch in a much wider range. I.E. if one only has a one octave =20 keyboard, one could play chords while singing in a completely =20 different octave and the harmonized pitches would still fall within an =20= octave of the sung pitch, rather than be the actual midi notes =20 generated from the keyboard. HTH and have a great evening!=85 Smiles, Cara :) On Jul 13, 2008, at 8:35 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > Has anyone compared the Digitech vocalist stuff to TC-Helicon's =20 > offerings (Voiceworks, Voiceworks Plus, etc.)? > > Just curious if the TC-Helicon is worth the extra $$ or not. > > Jeff > --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 03:14:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E425A3BE90; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=tIqJ+eoHuRmVjw0D/nS8b093bBsWYQQVfK3dKJTK0kEZ0hvRaqRjAeSMBYwsB4/O; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <8A4D51A1-F2DD-43DE-8F8F-9A52002B5181@earthlink.net> From: Cara Quinn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: quickie update on harmonizers Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:14:58 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b863c64b7cad57866423f13a3a05d4c239a348a220c26096b1df0871c540f2aca58c69fc5331392548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.94.193.196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Ah, just wanted to make a lil correction. I just did a bit of research on the VoiceWorks and it, (like the Studio Vocalist EX) does offer pitch correction as well as harmony generation. SMiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 07:10:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B221C3BE92; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <487C4D89.8050000@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:11:05 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s - and live recordings in general References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill schrieb: > that trombone didn't come from mars...rather Valhalla? ;) But before Valhalla it must have been on Mars, remember the dog in Berlin? our set was the only one he cared about, he was so confused as if we came from Mars... I hope I'll see the videos which had been made... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 15:40:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CB853BE86; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em00 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:40:23 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200807151540.m6FFeNSW024298@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: Re: moebius questions X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 193.158.99.226 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:40:25 +0000 (UTC) > Yep. Just want to add that when talking scripting you can set any > interval by Rate (it's actually called "Rate" in Mobius, not "Speed"). Mobius' function to change playback speed in semitone steps is called "rate= ". The function to toggle between normal and half playback speed is called = "speed". Both can be used in conjunction, i.e. setting HalfSpeed and Rate+1= 2 works and should sound "normal". Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 16:28:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AE6F3BE84; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004001c8e697$e0187ad0$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <200807151540.m6FFeNSW024298@post.webmailer.de> Subject: Re: Re: moebius questions Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:28:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+wuCCPI1UCWCFtWxJEGHUNqhit3M6q7qFJUQ1 DFIUpijCFy2owytzPODpEPY3UnEWYQovxmcpQTdMJwvdq0Ci1M Wryp2rXyir0C3a1wdL1Z32jXyZKGEN9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:28:16 +0000 (UTC) but your cpu might moan... "Both can be used in conjunction, i.e. setting HalfSpeed and Rate+12 works and should sound "normal"." THANX RAINER AND PER! i am checking out novation's nocturn right now. anybody tested this already? best - tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 16:41:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 221A23BE8A; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Sender: lunamusic@mac.com Message-id: From: Chris Sewell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <004001c8e697$e0187ad0$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> Subject: Re: moebius questions X-Priority: 3 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:41:09 -0400 References: <200807151540.m6FFeNSW024298@post.webmailer.de> <004001c8e697$e0187ad0$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:41:42 +0000 (UTC) I just got a Nocturn. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 21:04:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC3D33BE8F; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=kfAUe/jkVlfKJXcT83bRhOiHQBKdSh18aQVpInKf/m0=; b=XDpSVXarEPqKQTSVHTbzGWEEBtkuVrgBPiWiD2MKAUldhejGo6cv0sLeKglVblD9HF 6Z9PCsTpgz3SjaGK2p9bthZR1Mgl9KPGkLbiB9svNFJGy9SJnbhSUsqlK7ruJ4fwdW6b 3gCDPAAR9k0xeHBBe3RuOs8Zo6iexJBP7fOuA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=prJbbLZElNLBKKd+rA+KmGvCjd1+ASRk1RtbTbEIb3CL8eaIQYoD0gPFtJdA+gbi6y y/+fZoT3aTP4KFK2FDXVEh0wnoCeuxlcJGjGueAWvNSm8EuoTNwIvVh5dlHWOB78vlia A1YFMEWbz2mdvI+yovLu3w5zKoQVZlhbBELfk= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807151404v7a16c9fcg39db1a9a87200524@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:04:36 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED In-Reply-To: <983476.3580.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32367_8178141.1216155876966" References: <983476.3580.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:04:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_32367_8178141.1216155876966 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Margaret hey that is REALLY nice place to call "home" on the web, really technically fluid. Will listen to more later but on the gut Floating is a nice mood and the Rain and Exposed videos are pretty interesting stuff... I know Chitown is a big place but do you happen to know a Mark Rickets there? He's an illustrator among other things, an old friend of a friend from my native Arkansas and he would by now be well-established in the creative community there... anyhow will peruse your work more later... Jim www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Please take a look around: > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_32367_8178141.1216155876966 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Margaret hey that is REALLY nice place to call "home" on the web, really technically fluid.  Will listen to more later but on the gut Floating is a nice mood and the Rain and Exposed videos are pretty interesting stuff...
 
I know Chitown is a big place but do you happen to know a Mark Rickets there?  He's an illustrator among other things, an old friend of a friend from my native Arkansas and he would by now be well-established in the creative community there...
 
anyhow will peruse your work more later...
 
Jim


 
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
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--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_32367_8178141.1216155876966-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 21:20:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29D0D3BE94; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:20:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C8E696.AE23E510" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcjmsWxDvmpO2gkhRU2Y0f23YboL+wADumzA In-Reply-To: <983476.3580.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Message-Id: <20080715212026.C4EDE3BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:20:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C8E696.AE23E510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very classy website, and some interesting textures in the music and videos, Margaret. Your observation regarding the laptop yields some extended thinking. dave micdave@hiwaay.net _____ From: margaret noble [mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:25 PM To: margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com Cc: Ira Koplowitz Subject: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED Please take a look around: http://margaretnoble.net/ ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C8E696.AE23E510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Very classy website, and some = interesting textures in the music and videos, Margaret.

Your observation regarding the = laptop yields some extended thinking…

 

dave

 

micdave@hiwaay.net

 

 

From: = margaret noble [mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, = 2008 2:25 PM
To: = margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com
Cc: Ira Koplowitz
Subject: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED

 

Please take a look around:

http://margaretnoble.net/

 

------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C8E696.AE23E510-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 21:36:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E1863BE8F; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=CnVL3BFn1qv/b6JPntYZi1p9OhZdz5H7pxH+7dhuzPI=; b=Tv2v9KtILT1zU3GR6KhVgaXEMqE5s4cgMK12amVJV7cac+Thq7QpavgvDSjGSrzTdW bAO+ZlLJWrfJfD1YNjCZ6FvXgyEuWZdYmnfwpYJIBCgf5KjjhNLsuOncLY5ty0o9XkKj t4fmhO6KA9Q/FiUgno1KPwnWhHjs6wLYneFMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=POAGvHkySemto28sAmDooQml93vT26+tk+vaYJSIpLR9CL49pHDAjy8tH5FrLAW0cL Px6UFuBljOZtDnZMHVn7VxPfkBZXDhULJoH4K1IQQzdVdc3NCVoYs2aw2HycXx2a1xig 5cs3m8IKFpV/KjwGR/YZg4kYl/0FAKV7DduIU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:36:38 -0700 From: "Michael Billow" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED Cc: margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com, "Ira Koplowitz" In-Reply-To: <983476.3580.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11284_13744587.1216157798165" References: <983476.3580.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:36:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11284_13744587.1216157798165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Nice collection of works and accomplishments. Easy to use and inviting presentation. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:25 PM, margaret noble < margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > Please take a look around: > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > ------=_Part_11284_13744587.1216157798165 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Nice collection of works and accomplishments. Easy to use and inviting presentation.


On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:25 PM, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Please take a look around:

http://margaretnoble.net/


------=_Part_11284_13744587.1216157798165-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 21:41:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA57E3BE8B; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=c8991o2SDqJhsj4CmmvIITyegQ1y7Fp3YR7oLoHXaiXz1iAy2RCnKOBk8Ot2A5u2Sa2Xjm9rrRmeXQwYbCyQB7/27UEyRMM2y3K+w/50ApgZgZEVXFJccNgVFydRklJh0VD6r4NLSEuKZ1U+9h2Na6ifgAlwYXD/UjAVBO2J+JU=; X-YMail-OSG: SGna0ucVM1n0o098tu.hV8Igem3DL03TjFLoJzeNifAdBoOSaep1HTqpVSuCv1s4i_uc_QNbFwxFNmUvTfbGuYtKbo4fbG9uOYI4apjDa.0ZN8TcD25Rmu0LLhFwYpElXAqE8MA6NX012jaqMlvL Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:41:29 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60807151404v7a16c9fcg39db1a9a87200524@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1193278206-1216158089=:51531" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <338773.51531.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:41:30 +0000 (UTC) --0-1193278206-1216158089=:51531 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thanks for writing. in san diego now. don't know your friend :-) appreciate you checking my site!!! Jim Goodin wrote: Margaret hey that is REALLY nice place to call "home" on the web, really technically fluid. Will listen to more later but on the gut Floating is a nice mood and the Rain and Exposed videos are pretty interesting stuff... I know Chitown is a big place but do you happen to know a Mark Rickets there? He's an illustrator among other things, an old friend of a friend from my native Arkansas and he would by now be well-established in the creative community there... anyhow will peruse your work more later... Jim www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, margaret noble wrote: Please take a look around: http://margaretnoble.net/ -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com margaret noble website coming soon... until then: http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble --0-1193278206-1216158089=:51531 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thanks for writing. in san diego now. don't know your friend :-)


appreciate you checking my site!!!

Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Margaret hey that is REALLY nice place to call "home" on the web, really technically fluid.  Will listen to more later but on the gut Floating is a nice mood and the Rain and Exposed videos are pretty interesting stuff...
 
I know Chitown is a big place but do you happen to know a Mark Rickets there?  He's an illustrator among other things, an old friend of a friend from my native Arkansas and he would by now be well-established in the creative community there...
 
anyhow will peruse your work more later...
 
Jim


 
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Please take a look around:

http://margaretnoble.net/



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com



margaret noble
website coming soon...
until then:  http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble 

--0-1193278206-1216158089=:51531-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 21:45:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABA143BE8F; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Fpd7vaW+nehbbSDH4Fk9F/MHVHqc2esBqPirrBnSA3xebJYjMSRheXbhxs11oCzZyUbFyqI8gK0gsdmPjOVR4vODKnZKRMRISf5IXTUVuUB+J3/2bLOAlueAprcWw8f3n/TragDf4nEChWZIbl+Cm6IXhpfpOMHL6TqgjpZ/euQ=; X-YMail-OSG: AUSSr04VM1l418mHXRYCaLVR3EsNg.0O7vgNB1eS8cIvL9zgXOtpmftj4dx14FHIZSQ3AamFvqBukKZvurVL9w8feJcm8WfmO9PoJkSPL2n9U9DmfKLhekjzfQ-- Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:45:09 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: RE: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080715212026.C4EDE3BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1361826045-1216158309=:9766" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <110435.9766.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:45:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-1361826045-1216158309=:9766 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thanks dave, i welcome your observations! Dave Gallaher wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Very classy website, and some interesting textures in the music and videos, Margaret. Your observation regarding the laptop yields some extended thinking… dave micdave@hiwaay.net --------------------------------- From: margaret noble [mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:25 PM To: margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com Cc: Ira Koplowitz Subject: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED Please take a look around: http://margaretnoble.net/ M A R G A R E T N O B L E http://margaretnoble.net/ --0-1361826045-1216158309=:9766 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thanks dave, i welcome your observations!

Dave Gallaher <micdave@hiwaay.net> wrote:

Very classy website, and some interesting textures in the music and videos, Margaret.
Your observation regarding the laptop yields some extended thinking…
 
dave
 
micdave@hiwaay.net
 
 
From: margaret noble [mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:25 PM
To: margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com
Cc: Ira Koplowitz
Subject: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED
 
Please take a look around:

http://margaretnoble.net/
 



M A R G A R E T   N O B L E
http://margaretnoble.net/

--0-1361826045-1216158309=:9766-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 21:50:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C36D3BE91; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Ge1/MFoQa0rLJYtRQMPLN3E2Xej1bxc3M0eUYHbHl8s=; b=xSH5lCE1iYfF287etNcIF9GD+1KomwIEG2T0RlV1poR1eS4PFzooCOfXOryZTTTycD TQmvGs5Y0TOTPyJc6zLtN+zzUzUOvLa78fHW9jo/N2cufH4LDow7ZOZsJNtz+eNf20t0 JhuPh1laC5qbeMH0h4XrdARaexG4S5wzUV6/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bx/KKzJqMBNnS6nS+WYm/TX1iH4F8XNuNFOpgmFFsjYlmXb/Wr59d8To6NKrXhDM4h HPwp1WGaDcnsj7JxhZxiWbxqWIK+F9vGoxrtlkusGS5/LzifzoihmdrmlqTEIFneQMhy xlTiyXcf2egBZDT+7HV5tM1LUoblhRKjnFgfE= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807151450n740ddb2do2897032d69b65dec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:50:23 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED In-Reply-To: <338773.51531.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32618_10369121.1216158623191" References: <9e0440a60807151404v7a16c9fcg39db1a9a87200524@mail.gmail.com> <338773.51531.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:50:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_32618_10369121.1216158623191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Maragaret you're welcome and realize it's a big place but think it's just the human thing to say 'do you know...', I live in NY and get this. Anyhow Chicago is a wonderful town... best with your travels in CA Jim On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:41 PM, margaret noble wrote: > thanks for writing. in san diego now. don't know your friend :-) > > > appreciate you checking my site!!! > > > *Jim Goodin * wrote: > > Margaret hey that is REALLY nice place to call "home" on the web, really > technically fluid. Will listen to more later but on the gut Floating is a > nice mood and the Rain and Exposed videos are pretty interesting stuff... > > I know Chitown is a big place but do you happen to know a Mark Rickets > there? He's an illustrator among other things, an old friend of a friend > from my native Arkansas and he would by now be well-established in the > creative community there... > > anyhow will peruse your work more later... > > Jim > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, margaret noble < > margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Please take a look around: >> >> http://margaretnoble.net/ >> > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > > > > margaret noble > website coming soon... > until then: http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_32618_10369121.1216158623191 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Maragaret you're welcome and realize it's a big place but think it's just the human thing to say 'do you know...', I live in NY and get this.  Anyhow Chicago is a wonderful town...
 
best with your travels in CA
 
Jim

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:41 PM, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
thanks for writing. in san diego now. don't know your friend :-)


appreciate you checking my site!!!


Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Margaret hey that is REALLY nice place to call "home" on the web, really technically fluid.  Will listen to more later but on the gut Floating is a nice mood and the Rain and Exposed videos are pretty interesting stuff...
 
I know Chitown is a big place but do you happen to know a Mark Rickets there?  He's an illustrator among other things, an old friend of a friend from my native Arkansas and he would by now be well-established in the creative community there...
 
anyhow will peruse your work more later...
 
Jim


 
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Please take a look around:

http://margaretnoble.net/



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com



margaret noble
website coming soon...
until then:  http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble 




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_32618_10369121.1216158623191-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 21:58:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D6153BE99; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=rFvCurBDqFiyGoHNzSW4NeG2dUxzvz3RRhQG9csi/nI=; b=aeaoTgIWBdfOhyMtU998wQ45dHcunteaGqsEwTDZBpV/u9aCRClJvJ/NJSFPcbnJQ8 Ye8EFcggL1HzMWq+18KxNo4yMZcyxf4DkI+ZLdMdk0X/8gAHkWoxNLz1VQoVto9IRsEP oyrtjFwk2oty+9iRg/4hfxzFsQGBIiIoU7j0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=hKCIchEimF1/EvXsdg/y6ijepc5aeJQqPG4pgVNNw5EP15ydpjTnXcL8YkGF2+gaFC gTmP8MddUuD4Zt/ElXhzfaaObVMTfIr+h9OJ9sockUqT0TbBBzf1Y7W/7vJ2PyAv92og uIPr2HCky0KkA4H31wlHsyGXfy2Tw2zljN8lw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <983476.3580.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <983476.3580.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:58:09 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:58:17 +0000 (UTC) On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:25 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Please take a look around: > > http://margaretnoble.net/ Very elegant presentation. Reminds me a bit of earlier versions of the Hans Reichel daxophone website. The daxophone site is these days much denser and busier: http://www.daxo.de regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 22:05:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A712C3BEA0; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <9e0440a60807151404v7a16c9fcg39db1a9a87200524@mail.gmail.com> <338773.51531.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60807151450n740ddb2do2897032d69b65dec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60807151450n740ddb2do2897032d69b65dec@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:05:12 -0700 Message-ID: <002901c8e6c6$daded990$909c8cb0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C8E68C.2E800190" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcjmxMotorYoOPKPRKuGjPZm7Lv34QAAeEyg Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:05:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C8E68C.2E800190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Almost deleted as spam, glad I didn't ! great website , and music and visuals ! -Qua ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C8E68C.2E800190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Almost deleted as spam,  glad I didn’t = !    great website , and music and visuals !

-Qua

------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C8E68C.2E800190-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 22:28:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FC333BEAE; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:28:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User:DomainKey-Status; b=tMQeQauYP9CIPSyZmJLBDajCFzD9eEf07/C4RhcpTMPm1a2vt0CpWib/L6cyxl436fUmKNtJt2htLYwFQQu5l8cp+G8vD057ZZDyEuDmZHGAxwTOlcXOxp5d3nItsyk0; Message-ID: <20080715172839.yg94882bs40kc4cw@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:28:39 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED References: <983476.3580.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <983476.3580.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} DomainKey-Status: no signature Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:28:42 +0000 (UTC) Quoting margaret noble : > > Please take a look around: > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > Margaret, Your website is fantastic! Inspiring, too -- (I have wanted to upgrade mine and am still limping along with simple html pages). Enjoyed the video with the sheet metal strip. Perhaps you could create another strip with a moebius curve. :) I haven't heard all your music there and will check it out soon (long story -- the carpet in my studio was soaked when the foundation drain backed up and I've had to remove all my equipment to install new carpet. I want to hear your work on my studio speakers once everything is set up again.) San Diego, huh? Will you be in Santa Cruz for the Y2K8? -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 22:40:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2D463BEBA; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 563 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:40:42 UTC Message-ID: <021001c8e6cb$c21d9f90$6401a8c0@MusicComputer> From: "Tom Rex" To: References: <9e0440a60807151404v7a16c9fcg39db1a9a87200524@mail.gmail.com> <338773.51531.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60807151450n740ddb2do2897032d69b65dec@mail.gmail.com> <002901c8e6c6$daded990$909c8cb0$@com> Subject: Re: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:40:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_020D_01C8E691.15727C50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080715-0, 07/15/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <1ccIeD.A.YsB.qdSfIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:40:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_020D_01C8E691.15727C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really hip site, Margaret. The sounds and the visuals are fabulous ! tOM http://www.myspace.com/yetanotherbeatmaker ------=_NextPart_000_020D_01C8E691.15727C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Really hip site, Margaret.  The = sounds and the=20 visuals are fabulous !

tOM
http://www.myspace.co= m/yetanotherbeatmaker
------=_NextPart_000_020D_01C8E691.15727C50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 15 22:57:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C27983BEAF; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_oSgzkI0s6fDGOrjvZOVl2A)" Sender: lunamusic@mac.com In-reply-to: <021001c8e6cb$c21d9f90$6401a8c0@MusicComputer> References: <9e0440a60807151404v7a16c9fcg39db1a9a87200524@mail.gmail.com> <338773.51531.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60807151450n740ddb2do2897032d69b65dec@mail.gmail.com> <002901c8e6c6$daded990$909c8cb0$@com> <021001c8e6cb$c21d9f90$6401a8c0@MusicComputer> X-Priority: 3 Message-id: <7BBBEB44-6314-4F0D-983E-D74084FF08B5@mac.com> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:56:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <_qjGSC.A.gBC.AtSfIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:57:04 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_oSgzkI0s6fDGOrjvZOVl2A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The first noise on the splash page made my dog run form the room. On Jul 15, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Tom Rex wrote: > Really hip site, Margaret. The sounds and the visuals are fabulous ! > > tOM > http://www.myspace.com/yetanotherbeatmaker --Boundary_(ID_oSgzkI0s6fDGOrjvZOVl2A) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The first noise on the splash = page made my dog run form the room.=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Duke Sexton ; loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 = 8:49=20 AM
Subject: Re: Jamman v=20 Boss/self-promotion/new work

That's funny and yes my confusion that spliced you two guys = together, I=20 now remember Duke your last name but was hanging on to Duke and good = to hear=20 from you.  Daryl and I have 4 CP shows here in NY and Boston = (7/26 -=20 Stain (Brooklyn), 7/27 - MudShop (NYC), 7/28 - ABC No Rio (NYC) and = 8/2 - Kave=20 (Boston Somerville) the latter with Dennis Moser, Tim Nelson and Rob = Byrd) and=20 I will  tell him hey for you.
 
To both of you a stroke of guardian angel luck came my way=20 yesterday.  From Jeff's encouragement I researched the 2880 a = bit, began=20 to look on eBay and found one that appeared to be some sort of = 'factory=20 second' deal that was a make offer thing.  The seller had had = previous=20 2880's and some other EH gear however their feedback was mixed.  = While=20 hemming/hawing I hit Musicians Friend one more time yesterday thinking = don't=20 be 'penny wise pound foolish' and low and behold there was a 2880 = Scratch/Dent=20 for $310!  I decided that was a message to me as I've bought = other=20 Scratch/Dent with good success so I bought it.  So very jazzed = about that=20 and this new box.  Thanks Jeff for the added info on this box and = good to=20 hear from you Duke.
 
Thanks to all who offered me input the last few days.
 
Jim

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Duke Sexton = <mech2@m3ch.net> wrote:
At 10:59 AM -0400 7/11/08, Jim Goodin wrote:

I'm=20 trying to connect your name did you perform after us = [chinapainting] at=20 Y2k last year, Saturday evening?  There was a Jeff but I may = have you=20 mixed up.

LOL!  Hey Jim, Jeff Duke = didn't=20 perform after you guys last year; that was me.  It's not the = "Jeff"=20 you're finding familiar.  It's the "Duke". =  ;)

Anyway, hope=20 things are going well, and wishing you luck on your looper hunt. =  And=20 tell Daryl I said "hi" when you talk to him next (I think I may owe = him an=20 email, but then I'm always owing somebody an email, it = seems).

       --=20 Duke.



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http://www.chinapaintingmusic.= com
Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
http://www.myspace= .com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /A>=20
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull=20 Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= Jim=20 Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com 
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On Jul 15, 2008, at = 6:40 PM, Tom Rex wrote:

Really hip site, Margaret.=A0 The sounds and the visuals are = fabulous !

tOM
To: References: <9e0440a60807151404v7a16c9fcg39db1a9a87200524@mail.gmail.com> <338773.51531.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60807151450n740ddb2do2897032d69b65dec@mail.gmail.com> <002901c8e6c6$daded990$909c8cb0$@com> <021001c8e6cb$c21d9f90$6401a8c0@MusicComputer> <7BBBEB44-6314-4F0D-983E-D74084FF08B5@mac.com> Subject: Re: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED but getting OT Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:45:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_021A_01C8E69A.360AD210" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080715-0, 07/15/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:36:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_021A_01C8E69A.360AD210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My name ain't Rex for nothing! Some dogs like it and some don't :) See if your dog likes Summon Some Industrial Noise on my myspace link = below... tOM http://www.myspace.com/yetanotherbeatmaker ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Sewell=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Website: margaretnoble.net LAUNCHED The first noise on the splash page made my dog run form the room.=20 On Jul 15, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Tom Rex wrote: Really hip site, Margaret. The sounds and the visuals are fabulous = ! tOM http://www.myspace.com/yetanotherbeatmaker ------=_NextPart_000_021A_01C8E69A.360AD210 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My name ain't Rex for nothing!  = Some dogs like=20 it and some don't :)
 
See if your dog likes Summon Some = Industrial Noise=20 on my myspace link below...
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Chris = Sewell=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 = 3:56=20 PM
Subject: Re: Website: = margaretnoble.net=20 LAUNCHED

The first noise on the splash page made my dog run form = the=20 room. 
On Jul 15, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Tom Rex wrote:
Really hip site, Margaret.  = The sounds and=20 the visuals are fabulous !

tOM
http://www.myspace.co= m/yetanotherbeatmaker

------=_NextPart_000_021A_01C8E69A.360AD210-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 00:49:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D5503BE9E; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4045 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:49:10 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:28:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: OT: selling via iTunes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:49:10 +0000 (UTC) At 3:08 PM +0100 7/12/08, Os wrote: >just wondered if anyone here has any experience of getting >self-released stuff up for sale on the big online outlets e.g. iTunes, >Amazon etc. Amazon charges an annual fee to be listed, and they keep 55% of the selling price. You'll get an order in email and then you ship to them in Lexington KY. I don't make any money there at my level, but it's good to be visible. CDBaby is a much better deal, and they get your CD into the iTunes Store and other online merchants. More than half the money I get from CDBaby is from digital sales these days. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.fickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 03:56:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3E893BE8D; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a. portable PA speakers Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:57:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:56:57 +0000 (UTC) For what it's worth, they are blowing out the Mackie SRM 350 speakers at Musicians Friends. They list for $700 and are now selling for $299. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Mackie-SRM350-2Way-Active-PA-Speaker?sku=605268 That's stupid cheap and they go down to 50 cycles with impunity. Look around for a cheap home stereo subwoofer (to be had, easily for $100 to $200) and you have an incredible full fidelity mono looping solution for $500. That's pretty amazing. My brother has a pair, that I've admired and they are really small and very lightweight and produce really nice volumes for most small to medium sized rooms. They are not enough power for dance music, however, but most live loopers that I know would sound good through them. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 04:09:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C6CF3BE90; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <031e01c8e6f9$bb798e50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: A demonstration of electro-acoustic music, looping, effects, etc Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:09:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_031A_01C8E6C7.702C4910"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:09:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_031A_01C8E6C7.702C4910 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_031B_01C8E6C7.702C4910" ------=_NextPart_001_031B_01C8E6C7.702C4910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tomorrow I get the opportunity to demonstrate electro-acoustic music, = random computer effect processing and looping in an interactive way, = right in front of the Boise City Hall and hundreds of people milling = around. I just found out yesterday, so I have been madly creating a alt = version of my max rig and preparing my materials. I will have four = instruments on a table, all running into my computer system, which = randomly effects the input, loops, etc: Vocal mic, the Joe Rut Machine, = Madagascar bamboo harp, and Tongue Drum.=20 People will be able to walk up, play with the instruments, and = experience or interact with the randomly generated output. They can put = headphones on or listen to the output through the PA. I am creating my = documentation right now, which will accompany each instrument. Below is = the handout and instructions for one instrument. I also have a handout = that defines improvisational music, avant-gard, electro-acoustic, and = experimental. Thanks to all of you for the ideas! Kris An interactive electro-acoustic demonstration Background =20 This demonstration allows you to experience the fundamental principles = behind electro-acoustic music. The main characteristic of most = electro-acoustic music is that a performer plays an acoustic instrument = and processes or manipulates the sound of the instrument with the = computer and a software program. In some contexts, the processed output = of the acoustic instrument is accompanied or mixed with the original = sound source; on other contexts, the original acoustic sound source is = replaced completely by the processed output.=20 =20 This demonstration features four acoustic instruments as original sound = sources: The tongue Drum, your voice, the Madagascar Harp, and a newly = invented instrument, the "Joe Rut Machine." The sounds of these four = instruments are routed into a laptop computer, which is running Cycling = '74's software program, MAX/MSP. The software program is running a = custom "patch" that randomly chooses various effects and sound = manipulators, randomly alters the parameters of those effects, and = randomly samples and plays back the final output in real time. In = essence, your spontaneous input is accompanied by the spontaneous input = of the computer, resulting in hybrid human-machine performance. =20 Instructions - Madagascar bamboo tube harp =20 1. Pluck or strum the strings of the harp with your fingers 2. Listen to how the computer alters the sound of the drum 3. If possible, try to react to what the computer does, complementing = or accompanying the processed output =20 ------=_NextPart_001_031B_01C8E6C7.702C4910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tomorrow I get the opportunity to demonstrate = electro-acoustic=20 music, random computer effect processing and looping in an = interactive=20 way, right in front of  the Boise City Hall and hundreds of people = milling=20 around. I just found out yesterday, so I have been madly creating a alt = version=20 of my max rig and preparing my materials. I will have four instruments = on a=20 table, all running into my computer system, which randomly effects the = input,=20 loops, etc: Vocal mic, the Joe Rut Machine, Madagascar bamboo harp, and = Tongue=20 Drum.
 
People will be able to walk up, play with the = instruments, and=20 experience or interact with the randomly generated output. They can put=20 headphones on or listen to the output through the PA. I am creating my=20 documentation right now, which will accompany each = instrument. Below is the=20 handout and instructions for one instrument. I also have a handout that = defines=20 improvisational music, avant-gard, electro-acoustic, and = experimental.

Thanks to all of you for the ideas!

Kris

An=20 interactive electro-acoustic demonstration

Background

 

This demonstration allows = you to=20 experience the fundamental principles behind electro-acoustic = music.  The main characteristic of = most=20 electro-acoustic music is that a performer plays an acoustic instrument = and=20 processes or manipulates the sound of the instrument with the computer = and a=20 software program.  In some = contexts,=20 the processed output of the acoustic instrument is accompanied or mixed = with the=20 original sound source; on other contexts, the original acoustic sound = source is=20 replaced completely by the processed output.

 

This demonstration = features four=20 acoustic instruments as original sound sources: The tongue Drum, your voice, the Madagascar Harp, and a newly = invented=20 instrument, the =93Joe Rut=20 Machine.=94   The = sounds of=20 these four instruments are routed into a laptop computer, which is = running=20 Cycling =9174=92s software program, MAX/MSP. The software program = is=20 running a custom =93patch=94 that randomly chooses various effects and = sound=20 manipulators, randomly alters the parameters of those effects, and = randomly=20 samples and plays back the final output in real time.  In essence, your spontaneous = input is=20 accompanied by the spontaneous input of the computer, resulting in = hybrid=20 human-machine performance.

 

Instructions =96 = Madagascar bamboo tube=20 harp

 

1.   =20 Pluck or=20 strum the strings of the harp with your fingers

2.   =20 Listen to=20 how the computer alters the sound of the drum

3.   =20 If=20 possible, try to react to what the computer does, complementing or = accompanying=20 the processed output

 

 

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JQjBx9KKKKhjP//Z ------=_NextPart_000_031A_01C8E6C7.702C4910-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 04:28:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3AEF3BE90; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:28:08 UTC Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:16:07 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: The Secret Knowledge of Water.07.08 opening and Video Performance To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I have a video piece entitled Liquidity in the show "The Secret Knowledge of Water" that opens at the Nave gallery in Somerville. Ma on Friday July 18, and runs through Aug. 17. The opening reception for this show is on Friday from 6 - 8 PM. I'll be performing "Water music and other improvisations" with the latest incarnation of my Immersions ensemble at the Nave immediately following the opening. Doctor T -- Video Improvisation Dean (Deknow) Stiglitz (The Lothars) Electro Flute Ramona Herboldsheimer - (The Lothars) Hammered Dulcimer Rick Scott (Birdsongs of the Mesozoic) Synth Eric Crawley Harpejji and and Synth More info: http://www.artsomerville.org/upcoming.html The Nave Gallery Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church 155 Powderhouse Blvd., Somerville, MA $5 donation. -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 04:28:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01B0F3BEA0; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:22:10 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: When Worlds Collide, Sat July 19 at 119 Gallery in Lowell To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <6aPnWB.A.wPC.YjXfIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be improvising with four musicians from=20 different parts of the improvising tradition at=20 119 Gallery in Lowell on Sat July 19. Walter=20 Wright's ensemble will also do a set. SPARKS WILL=20 =46LY! 119 Gallery, 119 Chelmsford St, Lowell www.119gallery.org Multimedia: When Worlds Collide Saturday July 19 8pm, $10 donation When Worlds Collide: Eric Crawley - analog synth & Harpejji Glynis Dragonlady Loman - cello Keith Sanders - viola Michael Bloom - bass & tabletop guitar Dr T - video mix + Mitch Ahern - invented instruments Michael Bloom - bouzouki Joe Brown - guitar & percussion Walter Wright - analog synth, laptop & video =93I like to work with live video improvisation as=20 well as rendered video. I do this both in my own=20 studio, and at concerts and events in the Boston=20 area. I use a WJ-MX30 mixer, a couple of decks,=20 and a large pile of DVDs. These are primarily my=20 own work, including both finished pieces and=20 excerpts from work in progress. =93One long-term goal is the creation of situations=20 in which musical improvisation and visual=20 improvisation are integrated -- the musicians are=20 watching the video and reacting to it, and the=20 video artists are listening to the music and=20 reacting it. I've developed some interesting=20 material in my studio along these lines,=20 sometimes taking on both roles myself!=94 --- Dr T -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 04:47:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9119B3BE87; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <034401c8e6ff$184a7180$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: When Worlds Collide, Sat July 19 at 119 Gallery in Lowell Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:47:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Is this a tribute to the 50's science fiction movie, "When World's Collide"? Kris ----- Original Message ----- Hi folks, I'll be improvising with four musicians from different parts of the improvising tradition at 119 Gallery in Lowell on Sat July 19. Walter Wright's ensemble will also do a set. SPARKS WILL FLY! 119 Gallery, 119 Chelmsford St, Lowell www.119gallery.org Multimedia: When Worlds Collide Saturday July 19 8pm, $10 donation When Worlds Collide: Eric Crawley - analog synth & Harpejji Glynis Dragonlady Loman - cello Keith Sanders - viola Michael Bloom - bass & tabletop guitar Dr T - video mix + Mitch Ahern - invented instruments Michael Bloom - bouzouki Joe Brown - guitar & percussion Walter Wright - analog synth, laptop & video "I like to work with live video improvisation as well as rendered video. I do this both in my own studio, and at concerts and events in the Boston area. I use a WJ-MX30 mixer, a couple of decks, and a large pile of DVDs. These are primarily my own work, including both finished pieces and excerpts from work in progress. "One long-term goal is the creation of situations in which musical improvisation and visual improvisation are integrated -- the musicians are watching the video and reacting to it, and the video artists are listening to the music and reacting it. I've developed some interesting material in my studio along these lines, sometimes taking on both roles myself!" --- Dr T -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 04:56:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CDC93BE8B; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_0248727848765315 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:56:09 -0500 Subject: re: A demonstration of electro-acoustic music, looping, effects, etc From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:56:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_0248727848765315 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0Agotta say, pretty cool idea.=0D=0A=0D=0APlaying at parks and pu= blic areas is always fun=0D=0A=0D=0A---------------------------------------= -=0D=0AFrom: "Krispen Hartung" =0D=0ASent: Tuesday, = July 15, 2008 8:09 PM=0D=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0D=0ASub= ject: A demonstration of electro-acoustic music, looping, effects, etc =0D= =0A=0D=0ATomorrow I get the opportunity to demonstrate electro-acoustic =0D= =0Amusic, random computer effect processing and looping in an interactive = =0D=0Away, right in front of the Boise City Hall and hundreds of people mi= lling =0D=0Aaround. I just found out yesterday, so I have been madly creati= ng a alt version =0D=0Aof my max rig and preparing my materials. I will hav= e four instruments on a =0D=0Atable, all running into my computer system, w= hich randomly effects the input, =0D=0Aloops, etc: Vocal mic, the Joe Rut M= achine, Madagascar bamboo harp, and Tongue =0D=0ADrum. =0D=0A =0D=0APeopl= e will be able to walk up, play with the instruments, and =0D=0Aexperience = or interact with the randomly generated output. They can put =0D=0Aheadphon= es on or listen to the output through the PA. I am creating my =0D=0Adocume= ntation right now, which will accompany each instrument. Below is the =0D= =0Ahandout and instructions for one instrument. I also have a handout that = defines =0D=0Aimprovisational music, avant-gard, electro-acoustic, and expe= rimental. =0D=0A=0D=0AThanks to all of you for the ideas! =0D=0A=0D=0AKris = =0D=0AAn =0D=0Ainteractive electro-acoustic demonstration =0D=0A=0D=0ABackg= round =0D=0A =0D=0AThis demonstration allows you to =0D=0Aexperience the f= undamental principles behind electro-acoustic music. The main characterist= ic of most =0D=0Aelectro-acoustic music is that a performer plays an acoust= ic instrument and =0D=0Aprocesses or manipulates the sound of the instrumen= t with the computer and a =0D=0Asoftware program. In some contexts, =0D=0A= the processed output of the acoustic instrument is accompanied or mixed wit= h the =0D=0Aoriginal sound source; on other contexts, the original acoustic= sound source is =0D=0Areplaced completely by the processed output. =0D=0A= =0D=0AThis demonstration features four =0D=0Aacoustic instruments as orig= inal sound sources: The tongue Drum, your voice, the Madagascar Harp, and a= newly invented =0D=0Ainstrument, the =93Joe Rut =0D=0AMachine.=94 The so= unds of =0D=0Athese four instruments are routed into a laptop computer, whi= ch is running =0D=0ACycling =9174=92s software program, MAX/MSP. The softwa= re program is =0D=0Arunning a custom =93patch=94 that randomly chooses vari= ous effects and sound =0D=0Amanipulators, randomly alters the parameters of= those effects, and randomly =0D=0Asamples and plays back the final output = in real time. In essence, your spontaneous input is =0D=0Aaccompanied by t= he spontaneous input of the computer, resulting in hybrid =0D=0Ahuman-machi= ne performance. =0D=0A =0D=0AInstructions =96 Madagascar bamboo tube =0D= =0Aharp =0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A1. =0D=0A Pluck or =0D=0Astrum the strings o= f the harp with your fingers =0D=0A2. =0D=0A Listen to =0D=0Ahow the com= puter alters the sound of the drum =0D=0A3. =0D=0A If =0D=0Apossible, tr= y to react to what the computer does, complementing or accompanying =0D=0At= he processed output =0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_0248727848765315 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


gotta say, pretty cool idea.

Playing at parks and public= areas is always fun






From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:09 PM
To: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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------_SmarterMail_NextPart_0248727848765315-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 11:56:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8923C3BE8D; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:56:22 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Message-ID: <20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a. portable PA speakers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX183uxNlfcc3p+eXUyKDnY8ML4O0KAUf5osKjoti+X k8yXRa4FiTD0Zrvv4atPEB2wfLERg3A+KU4g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: gIUVBbITbHIhSdsjwjU0sRwiJihyatDZ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick & everyone as 10" active PAs, I'd recommend the FBT or the RCFs - imho, don't waste your time with anything else. Check this review: http://www.tagnz.co.nz/Test%20Report%2010inch%20%20Pow.%20Speakers%20Tools%20engl1.pdf I've compared quite a few of them and stuck with the FBT - to me, FBT and RCFs are on par. The FBT has more inputs/EQ. The RCF is a bit easier to carry and more well-known (if you want to sell them). Buzap PS: there are also new FBTs out with killer output - and killer price ;-) -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 13:43:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A281C3BE8A; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+4gVF/JH9erltB+BV6igz72e8aeSKr+5+ECj1OSWMoE=; b=tGB+bWoRPv7Gt39cvCTf/kyN9ne3QarVLCljdUi2vMMiS+uUsF/KOGrMFrnBhwo59H CbyxCUgino1k+hm24byN5VV1PExnTq4VYq6z9tmjflUWsIyV4wePOrPLWOUwdHQq/BUR qRWyjC/I3XZr99viJezofHq7kanuRY/1ULPTM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=DzNq19b3t7uNFkElFVLTQZN1CwuJkrj0LQ4WkP2Zk6+6kVf2fumEEf9azDeCj/H85c 7jN817RMmAIiuMtt6y7Vf9fJC1tue/Gb+FR8+3A9ZSYXhmfdWmlYH+e/xXwdMLBJ6D1x nlM80zqOxzJIjuvPfww4dH2QVL7bxfOAQ8y6I= Message-ID: <4759e5740807160643o2dc4a674lb020230515764cd6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:43:15 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A demonstration of electro-acoustic music, looping, effects, etc In-Reply-To: <031e01c8e6f9$bb798e50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_16549_10016840.1216215795787" References: <031e01c8e6f9$bb798e50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:43:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16549_10016840.1216215795787 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16550_16711556.1216215795787" ------=_Part_16550_16711556.1216215795787 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline right on, Kris. this is a great opportunity, and you're doing large things with it, kudos. I can only imagine, if I were a kid, or simply a fascinated adult... I NEVE= R see this opportunity out there for people, not even in Museums. t. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Tomorrow I get the opportunity to demonstrate electro-acoustic > music, random computer effect processing and looping in an interactive wa= y, > right in front of the Boise City Hall and hundreds of people milling > around. I just found out yesterday, so I have been madly creating a alt > version of my max rig and preparing my materials. I will have four > instruments on a table, all running into my computer system, which random= ly > effects the input, loops, etc: Vocal mic, the Joe Rut Machine, Madagascar > bamboo harp, and Tongue Drum. > > People will be able to walk up, play with the instruments, and experience > or interact with the randomly generated output. They can put headphones o= n > or listen to the output through the PA. I am creating my documentation ri= ght > now, which will accompany each instrument. Below is the handout and > instructions for one instrument. I also have a handout that defines > improvisational music, avant-gard, electro-acoustic, and experimental. > > Thanks to all of you for the ideas! > > Kris > An interactive electro-acoustic demonstration > > > > *Background* > > > > This demonstration allows you to experience the fundamental principles > behind electro-acoustic music. The main characteristic of most > electro-acoustic music is that a performer plays an acoustic instrument a= nd > processes or manipulates the sound of the instrument with the computer an= d a > software program. In some contexts, the processed output of the acoustic > instrument is accompanied or mixed with the original sound source; on oth= er > contexts, the original acoustic sound source is replaced completely by th= e > processed output. > > > > This demonstration features four acoustic instruments as original sound > sources: The *tongue Drum*, *your voice*, the *Madagascar Harp*, and a > newly invented instrument, the *"Joe Rut Machine."* The sounds of these > four instruments are routed into a laptop computer, which is running Cycl= ing > '74's software program, *MAX/MSP.* The software program is running a > custom "patch" that randomly chooses various effects and sound manipulato= rs, > randomly alters the parameters of those effects, and randomly samples and > plays back the final output in real time. In essence, your spontaneous > input is accompanied by the spontaneous input of the computer, resulting = in > hybrid human-machine performance. > > > > *Instructions =96 Madagascar bamboo tube harp* > > * * > > ** > > 1. Pluck or strum the strings of the harp with your fingers > > 2. Listen to how the computer alters the sound of the drum > > 3. If possible, try to react to what the computer does, complementing > or accompanying the processed output > > > > > > --=20 Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_16550_16711556.1216215795787 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
right on, Kris.

this is a great opportu= nity, and you're doing large things with it, kudos. 
I can only imagine, if I were a kid, or simply a fascinated adu= lt... I NEVER see this opportunity out there for people, not even in Museum= s. 

t.



On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
Tomorrow I get the opportunity to demonstrate electro= -acoustic=20 music, random computer effect processing and looping in an intera= ctive=20 way, right in front of  the Boise City Hall and hundreds of people mil= ling=20 around. I just found out yesterday, so I have been madly creating a alt ver= sion=20 of my max rig and preparing my materials. I will have four instruments on a= =20 table, all running into my computer system, which randomly effects the inpu= t,=20 loops, etc: Vocal mic, the Joe Rut Machine, Madagascar bamboo harp, and Ton= gue=20 Drum.
 
People will be able to walk up, play with the instrum= ents, and=20 experience or interact with the randomly generated output. They can put=20 headphones on or listen to the output through the PA. I am creating my=20 documentation right now, which will accompany each instrument. Below i= s the=20 handout and instructions for one instrument. I also have a handout that def= ines=20 improvisational music, avant-gard, electro-acoustic, and experimental.

Thanks to all of you for the ideas!

Kris

An=20 interactive electro-acoustic demonstration



Background

 

This demonstration allows you to=20 experience the fundamental principles behind electro-acoustic music.&= nbsp; The main characteristic of most=20 electro-acoustic music is that a performer plays an acoustic instrument and= =20 processes or manipulates the sound of the instrument with the computer and = a=20 software program.  In some contexts,=20 the processed output of the acoustic instrument is accompanied or mixed wit= h the=20 original sound source; on other contexts, the original acoustic sound sourc= e is=20 replaced completely by the processed output.

 

This demonstration features four=20 acoustic instruments as original sound sources: The tongue Drum, = your voice, the Madagascar Harp, and a newly invented=20 instrument, the "Joe Rut=20 Machine."   The sounds of=20 these four instruments are routed into a laptop computer, which is running= =20 Cycling '74's software program, MAX/MSP. The software program is=20 running a custom "patch" that randomly chooses various effects and sound=20 manipulators, randomly alters the parameters of those effects, and randomly= =20 samples and plays back the final output in real time.  In= essence, your spontaneous input is=20 accompanied by the spontaneous input of the computer, resulting in hybrid= =20 human-machine performance.

 

Instructions =96 Madagascar bamboo tube=20 harp

 

1.   =20 Pluck= or=20 strum the strings of the harp with your fingers

2.   =20 Liste= n to=20 how the computer alters the sound of the drum

3.   =20 If=20 possible, try to react to what the computer does, complementing or accompan= ying=20 the processed output

 

 




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Bang on a Can has lande= d once again in North Adams!!!

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h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZJ5/gCwX/Mb+ZV4nCgL7aqVrJe9vfDFwIMe8Ci9Yuk+TzqKpfNGFQF3YsCsuadmoIB UrNuGlt8Wf1G+hi0LQZhd2WPnfRPKpv8kt3U+5ixwXnBnSBFoY/Rz+CaovmQoZoVWEbc io/QePcDRCURVUM05azY6S/XheM7i0koHXAPk= Message-ID: <4759e5740807160643o5da15cet58bb73d0e17e005b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:43:55 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A demonstration of electro-acoustic music, looping, effects, etc In-Reply-To: <4759e5740807160643o2dc4a674lb020230515764cd6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_16561_11411233.1216215835341" References: <031e01c8e6f9$bb798e50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4759e5740807160643o2dc4a674lb020230515764cd6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6I5qBB.A.uuE.csffIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:43:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16561_11411233.1216215835341 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16562_2915569.1216215835341" ------=_Part_16562_2915569.1216215835341 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline oh, and where can I get one of those Madascar tube harps?????? t. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:43 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > right on, Kris. > this is a great opportunity, and you're doing large things with it, kudos= . > > I can only imagine, if I were a kid, or simply a fascinated adult... I > NEVER see this opportunity out there for people, not even in Museums. > > t. > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Krispen Hartung > wrote: > >> Tomorrow I get the opportunity to demonstrate electro-acoustic >> music, random computer effect processing and looping in an interactive w= ay, >> right in front of the Boise City Hall and hundreds of people milling >> around. I just found out yesterday, so I have been madly creating a alt >> version of my max rig and preparing my materials. I will have four >> instruments on a table, all running into my computer system, which rando= mly >> effects the input, loops, etc: Vocal mic, the Joe Rut Machine, Madagasca= r >> bamboo harp, and Tongue Drum. >> >> People will be able to walk up, play with the instruments, and experienc= e >> or interact with the randomly generated output. They can put headphones = on >> or listen to the output through the PA. I am creating my documentation r= ight >> now, which will accompany each instrument. Below is the handout and >> instructions for one instrument. I also have a handout that defines >> improvisational music, avant-gard, electro-acoustic, and experimental. >> >> Thanks to all of you for the ideas! >> >> Kris >> An interactive electro-acoustic demonstration >> >> >> >> *Background* >> >> >> >> This demonstration allows you to experience the fundamental principles >> behind electro-acoustic music. The main characteristic of most >> electro-acoustic music is that a performer plays an acoustic instrument = and >> processes or manipulates the sound of the instrument with the computer a= nd a >> software program. In some contexts, the processed output of the acousti= c >> instrument is accompanied or mixed with the original sound source; on ot= her >> contexts, the original acoustic sound source is replaced completely by t= he >> processed output. >> >> >> >> This demonstration features four acoustic instruments as original sound >> sources: The *tongue Drum*, *your voice*, the *Madagascar Harp*, and a >> newly invented instrument, the *"Joe Rut Machine."* The sounds of thes= e >> four instruments are routed into a laptop computer, which is running Cyc= ling >> '74's software program, *MAX/MSP.* The software program is running a >> custom "patch" that randomly chooses various effects and sound manipulat= ors, >> randomly alters the parameters of those effects, and randomly samples an= d >> plays back the final output in real time. In essence, your spontaneous >> input is accompanied by the spontaneous input of the computer, resulting= in >> hybrid human-machine performance. >> >> >> >> *Instructions =96 Madagascar bamboo tube harp* >> >> * * >> >> ** >> >> 1. Pluck or strum the strings of the harp with your fingers >> >> 2. Listen to how the computer alters the sound of the drum >> >> 3. If possible, try to react to what the computer does, complementing >> or accompanying the processed output >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! > > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > --=20 Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_16562_2915569.1216215835341 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
oh, and where can I get one of those Madascar tube harps??= ????

t.



On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:43 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
right on, Kris.

this is a great opportunity, and you're doing large things wit= h it, kudos. 

I can only imagine, if I were a kid, or simply a fascin= ated adult... I NEVER see this opportunity out there for people, not even i= n Museums. 

t.



On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:0= 9 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
Tomorrow I get the opportunity to demonstrate electro= -acoustic=20 music, random computer effect processing and looping in an intera= ctive=20 way, right in front of  the Boise City Hall and hundreds of people mil= ling=20 around. I just found out yesterday, so I have been madly creating a alt ver= sion=20 of my max rig and preparing my materials. I will have four instruments on a= =20 table, all running into my computer system, which randomly effects the inpu= t,=20 loops, etc: Vocal mic, the Joe Rut Machine, Madagascar bamboo harp, and Ton= gue=20 Drum.
 
People will be able to walk up, play with the instrum= ents, and=20 experience or interact with the randomly generated output. They can put=20 headphones on or listen to the output through the PA. I am creating my=20 documentation right now, which will accompany each instrument. Below i= s the=20 handout and instructions for one instrument. I also have a handout that def= ines=20 improvisational music, avant-gard, electro-acoustic, and experimental.

Thanks to all of you for the ideas!

Kris

An=20 interactive electro-acoustic demonstration



Background

 

This demonstration allows you to=20 experience the fundamental principles behind electro-acoustic music.&= nbsp; The main characteristic of most=20 electro-acoustic music is that a performer plays an acoustic instrument and= =20 processes or manipulates the sound of the instrument with the computer and = a=20 software program.  In some contexts,=20 the processed output of the acoustic instrument is accompanied or mixed wit= h the=20 original sound source; on other contexts, the original acoustic sound sourc= e is=20 replaced completely by the processed output.

 

This demonstration features four=20 acoustic instruments as original sound sources: The tongue Drum, = your voice, the Madagascar Harp, and a newly invented=20 instrument, the "Joe Rut=20 Machine."   The sounds of=20 these four instruments are routed into a laptop computer, which is running= =20 Cycling '74's software program, MAX/MSP. The software progra= m is=20 running a custom "patch" that randomly chooses various effects an= d sound=20 manipulators, randomly alters the parameters of those effects, and randomly= =20 samples and plays back the final output in real time.  In= essence, your spontaneous input is=20 accompanied by the spontaneous input of the computer, resulting in hybrid= =20 human-machine performance.

 

Instructions =96 Madagascar bamboo tube=20 harp

 

1.   =20 Pluck= or=20 strum the strings of the harp with your fingers

2.   =20 Liste= n to=20 how the computer alters the sound of the drum

3.   =20 If=20 possible, try to react to what the computer does, complementing or accompan= ying=20 the processed output

 

 




--
Bang on a C= an has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com



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Bang on a Can has lande= d once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
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JQjBx9KKKKhjP//Z ------=_Part_16561_11411233.1216215835341-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 13:51:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF7E23BE99; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <03ba01c8e74b$1279ba30$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a. portable PA speakers Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:51:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Buzap wrote: "as 10" active PAs, I'd recommend the FBT or the RCFs - imho, don't waste your time with anything else." Actually, Buzap, I concur with your recommendation: I have the RCFs and love them. I think they are a little better than the SRM350s (they go down to 40 cycles for one thing) but because the US dollar is so weak against the Euro, the SRM350's that they are blowing out at Musicians Friends are just an incredible price (probably half the cost of the comparable RCFs with the devalued US Dollar), so I stand by my recommendation if you are in the market for speakers. Additionally, as I said, you can find an inexpensive home subwoofer to add to them and they'd be a killer full spectrum p.a. for any small to medium sized gig. Lightweight and powered for under $500 in total. Not bad! 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Tony ------=_Part_23798_7294034.1216216527796-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 14:10:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2CE93BE94; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Gvhswju9AAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vhIoGBxUgS_2UGl5Ol0A:9 a=6snXm5XRPZKpEeUxaXAA:9 a=3lXQd1PF8HVZWcmLTPQmtIy3gEcA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=TOeUC-qssqJRQAxNiFAA:9 a=9H-SwO9eHXTXR0Ag-IIA:7 a=ohlG5hT3i2k0MJAQrbYDr7o3Eh4A:4 a=Sz-0p1zU2dQA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--460463644 Message-Id: From: Chris Gaber Subject: Re: EJamming.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:10:21 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3DeiPC.A.ydF.aFgfIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:10:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--460463644 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I havent yet, but I would be interested in trying it if we could get a few people together. Chris http://www.myspace.com/chrisgaber On Jul 16, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Tony K wrote: > Has anybody checked this online jamming software ? > > www.ejamming.com > > They claim no latency. > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony --Apple-Mail-1--460463644 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I havent yet, but I would be interested in trying it if we could get a few people together.

Chris



On Jul 16, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Tony K wrote:

Has anybody checked this online jamming software ?

www.ejamming.com

They claim no latency.

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--Apple-Mail-1--460463644-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 14:20:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4FCD3BEA4; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject :date:x-mailer; bh=6l8vEqXnR2QwZPvyIbXsTEYbVSp5VVWPY33BzhGB/ls=; b=LJDsm8pIQQh7w+ocHkThhJbw/hgEPL2gvl0nca3BGQYjyfYMB/HoFsIist6Uo+0xt2 nZmpyKXh/K1z+4xsxefH6pprtUB7bybsupVre5xzJEK5Nj1unrerLDy7TgUkfrCiXg1v 0CUBl/W5B5Fy8iJZG9PLG83Scma2I1QBJKezo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to :from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=puRV836chIoIRp3xiqr6N3Pudln1quEK4cg0Q3V/b8PBCIW5rfFEE6SLnxX7+edct0 q83LydOaZjTQmi3pTxBfDzUHfgzrLljiy3qcDe/04ujnwMlmTuL4qaCuNJlKwWi+evph 7cPON+TxK6bjkI/uz5/Q3ve4TiHTacn06rqlI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <95B4B7B8-45E1-4F28-B808-53EE720662F8@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: RP Collier Subject: Re: A demonstration of electro-acoustic music, looping, effects, etc Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:20:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:20:49 +0000 (UTC) On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:43 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > oh, and where can I get one of those Madascar tube harps?????? > Hi Those are actually considered zithers rather than harps. The Madagascar version is called a vahila. There is a store in lower Manahattan called Tribal Soundz http://www.tribalsoundz.com/ Their website hows no tube zithers but they may be able to order them or at least point you in the right direction locally. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 14:35:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BEC23BE91; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=yj0zzc3czITzl66sE+xizYmGJP576sP7BqD1TcRQAek=; b=e41iSp5bLKlQBKcrxUOwEFd/Ft3JKD5sU3zMvMGSYqS12BdzxAe7txCkWDZRyj1Dgf QPhs5ggmLKV37jmM1SCLpBg0RipOrPMOF4uFccl1RkvBtB00NErUlQGwZyIBATB8mDBS xum/qxQiEH8MO4iw/6q4LBSDdcWinQmfwi1J8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=kJ756/kMHscl1xTt0nCuJWssyuNJJfFzNDQvjRVb8+9OKUmbZmge04bQq8IDqHvsmq Puo8gQRbu9kYOXKzvi9vvYVCOxmvNKt1iCPUmepvGFCegS2ERDFzG2T2Y3UiqF/UnR2x eduo5kO0D8GPnEtAtiYmVfq1Ktb4OZ0z5ssw4= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:35:23 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: loopers-delight Subject: Teaspoon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24459_2397306.1216218923696" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:35:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_24459_2397306.1216218923696 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Whoa, new looper/sample toy. Hurry limited supply! :) http://thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon-ab.html -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_24459_2397306.1216218923696 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Whoa, new looper/sample toy.  Hurry limited supply! :)

http://thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon-ab.html

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Tony ------=_Part_24459_2397306.1216218923696-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 14:36:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F5D53BE9E; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:36:05 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: SouthEast Loopers? (US) In-reply-to: <10130611.1213910019552.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <487E0755.4050701@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <10130611.1213910019552.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC) andy garber wrote: > Wow, great to know there's some friends around - > I love WNC! I've been going to Linville Gorge since I could drive. > Also - I go to Belle Chere every year in Asheville (biggest street > fest in NC). > I'll be there this year too - a bit late for any musical plans I think > but, I'd > be more than happy to meet up w/ anyone to share a beer and put some > faces > with some names. > I'd love to plan a gig in Asheville a bit later this fall. > If I can find an extra day around a weekend as well, > it'd be great to keep on trucking down to ATL. > Please hit me up if you'd like to join forces for a show sometime > in the fall for Asheville. Hi Andy, Belle Chere looks fantastic! I've already been to Asheville and Atlanta this year on separate trips. Electro-music in August will make my third trip south this year! I doubt that I can afford much more car travel this year. But I want to keep touch for the future. Please write off-list to talk about WNC plans. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 14:48:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B9D33BE93; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:48:28 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: quest for a mobile recorder In-reply-to: <19309212.1213990191701.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <487E0A3C.5060002@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <19309212.1213990191701.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:48:28 +0000 (UTC) tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: > So far . . . I've been quite happy with my Zoom H2. > It may not have all of your requirements, but it has most of them . . . and it's quite affordable. Speaking about affordable, the M-Audio Microtrack II was $199.99 at Comp-u-plus! Oops! It's back up to $229. Still not too shabby. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 15:35:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 696C53BE8F; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <487E154E.80703@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:35:42 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EJamming.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Tony K schrieb: > They claim no latency. If they claim no latency, they are not serious, you can't beat physics... "It's FREE all during the Public Beta" I stick with ninjam... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 15:52:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A86173BE91; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=TIy8ECow+9eZS+RD0lJ05FzYKJd/vd4ZSkn8k1LEgHU=; b=lq+ccLcb6WPUrfQWRQJOFIIZVF5mKxSWelFbif7h31P83PYnZFQ6kVfXHhVxzBLREg RDMoZ/6CvOVYBank9pVGplB9/xqtaKHyw2iK7gxsGgvU7DTuKxvmDDNS3ViCtF1FS0wm d30xxTzgsaCfWI6XtSNu0/BDdjC0+FNKR8sMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Bt8nUsfrahaNyNlIctGwCvAFwDcaoRrWkUEq/+sbgWnoayJXE3HYRlmr3VWMwyMV0i skDKJsOrNrRnCAXCFZGG8GyIrw6xXWiLN37m0W2pt6KpVoakVARx1AQad46k2MWvwkvD BmYC6fMVcuAMjG/0cMKyeUiutsxNNBVMTRDjg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:52:26 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EJamming.com In-Reply-To: <487E154E.80703@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26295_13114409.1216223546396" References: <487E154E.80703@addcom.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:52:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26295_13114409.1216223546396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yeah, It's misleading. I think they are referring to the playback latency, NOT online jamming latency. Changing the laws of physics would be an amazing programming feat! ;) On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Tony K schrieb: > >> They claim no latency. >> > > If they claim no latency, they are not serious, you can't beat physics... > > "It's FREE all during the Public Beta" > > I stick with ninjam... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_26295_13114409.1216223546396 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Yeah, It's misleading. I think they are referring to the playback latency, NOT online jamming latency.  Changing the laws of physics would be an amazing programming feat! ;)

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> wrote:
Tony K schrieb:
They claim no latency.

If they claim no latency, they are not serious, you can't beat physics...

"It's FREE all during the Public Beta"

I stick with ninjam...

Stefan

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------=_Part_26295_13114409.1216223546396-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 16:04:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B96DA3BE8C; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RL48qi03AAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=WYFPHHcEkPoqatw0NDwA:9 a=eCuPTOrtlZ0J2FcBjHkA:9 a=0hHYUM8xcY7aVkqI6MiNXIqQIQwA:4 a=tzaOfkOHiHYA:10 a=8b0TY1xhFYQA:10 a=W5uE_K3WRbrr9n1-HiYA:9 a=cFdOONDBoGmRr5rN93AA:9 a=e9gIE0HzPYnJQZHtYTEA:7 a=1bBOY4ImfUoMmyOx-1IEOm6CSG4A:4 a=Sz-0p1zU2dQA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <487E154E.80703@addcom.de> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--453634240 Message-Id: <1C0EA6BD-95CF-4286-B2F6-202A8206B9EA@yahoo.com> From: Chris Gaber Subject: Re: EJamming.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:04:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:04:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--453634240 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Can I join you guys for a ninjam? I am in Chicago, but my hours are flexible. My main instrument is guitar/guitar synth, but I have a studio filled with other gear too. V-drums, basses, and keyboards. Chris http://www.myspace.com/chrisgaber http://www.myspace.com/alienbasscraft http://www.myspace.com/dbcooperfunk On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Tony K wrote: > Yeah, It's misleading. I think they are referring to the playback > latency, NOT online jamming latency. Changing the laws of physics > would be an amazing programming feat! ;) > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Stefan Tiedje Tiedje@addcom.de> wrote: > Tony K schrieb: > They claim no latency. > > If they claim no latency, they are not serious, you can't beat > physics... > > "It's FREE all during the Public Beta" > > I stick with ninjam... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony --Apple-Mail-1--453634240 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can I join you guys for a = ninjam?=A0 I am in Chicago, but my hours are flexible.=A0 My main = instrument is guitar/guitar synth, but I have a studio filled with other = gear too.=A0 V-drums, basses, and keyboards.

Chris

http://www.myspace.com/dbcoop= erfunk
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Tony K = wrote:

Yeah, It's misleading. I think they are = referring to the playback latency, NOT online jamming latency.=A0 = Changing the laws of physics would be an amazing programming feat! = ;)

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:35 AM, = Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> = wrote:
Tony K schrieb:
They claim no latency.
=
If they claim no latency, they are not serious, you can't beat = physics...

"It's FREE all during the Public Beta"

I = stick with ninjam...

Stefan

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= --Apple-Mail-1--453634240-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 16:37:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74A4B3BE90; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=npu1Fn0xGG6ZvqoByA0l2vtV+tloukLBp6wkJ2B0MM4=; b=ZWvh9Os/gyMy2eRiWl/hWgt8Znyk/XfKg4ZB8DOiEIpKJHI8PtUEohkJkDwSz0s4sU A7xBIUCMxRM3M3l2nOF2906Z8mx4JpX6Q7ZPfSee3pyML4IaRzWj58Onm7c14ddOssSY oYK9ztENYPPZkSTnc8Ekmy8Cwv4PZ2vqg2FLE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=HI07qUsuGLmk/5YkN6XJiIhfVFYK7fDuUIgBGFw6M0ZT3AynXNA+NGQjii3t/HKRq7 FosBaV120c/CmOhkvFBuNKBtKVzV8LxJ9qwnePlt7XC6Xla6Yn8td4rzIr1bDfMouv/e xIFgkOYHTWuDssGwDGIJeRnwD7w+rVrh2re2I= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:37:28 -0700 From: "karate snoopy" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Audiobus in SF (7/19) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13754_26193320.1216226248566" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:37:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13754_26193320.1216226248566 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello Loopers, My name's Goh Nakamura and I wanted to hip you all to a cool event this Saturday (July 19) that I thought you San Francisco/Bay Area Loopers would be interested in checking out. It's basically a headphone concert on a double decker bus as we drive around the city on a route that I chose. I'm an electro-acoustic singer/songwriter and do a lot of looping via two Line6 DL4's. Here's a video sample below: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGh9-LRmO2sE Looping superstar Zoe Keating's doing a show on Friday, though her shows ar= e already sold out. There is a wait list I believe, so check the link below if you're interested. Here's a better description lifted from the event's website: Bay Area's own troubador, Goh Nakamura, is famous for singing about parking tickets, impossible crushes, and faraway dreamlands. He will develop his tour route that will score to his songs for an audiences equipped with headphones atop a CitySightseeing open-top double-decker bus. Goh's music has scored and soundtracked a few movies. Now audiences can experience thei= r own real life movie in motion. Station hosted by the Art Engine Gallery on = a special AudioBus viewing night of their featured exhibition "The Best I Hav= e Ever Had" by Alexandra Chowaniec and Kristen Van Diggelen. Two Departures : 6:45pm and 8:00pm, Tickets: $12 online BUY NOW ( Extremely limited seating. Ticket holders must check-in at least 15 minutes before scheduled departure) Soundwave is a multi-venue and multi-date festival happening over the span of two months every two years in San Francisco USA. Each season investigate= s a new idea in sound and invites diverse multidisciplinary artists and musicians to explore the season's theme in new and innovative directions. I= t challenges and inspires artists and audiences to look deeper into the sound medium and discover new connections to sound making and the sound experience. In its third season, the series has completed two successful seasons, Season 2's SURROUND>SOUND in 2006 and Season 1's FREE>SOUND in 2004. The project was recently named 'Best Sound Sculptures =96 Future Classic' by San Francisco Magazine's BEST of 2007 issue. http://projectsoundwave.me-di-ate.net/series/ ------=_Part_13754_26193320.1216226248566 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Hello Loopers,

My name's Goh Nakamura and I wanted to hip you all to = a cool event this Saturday (July 19) that I thought you San Francisco/Bay A= rea Loopers would be interested in checking out.  It's basically a= headphone concert on a double decker bus as we drive around the city = on a route that I chose.  I'm an electro-acoustic singer/songwrite= r and do a lot of looping via two Line6 DL4's.  Here's a video= sample below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGh9-LRmO2sE

Looping superstar Zoe Keating's doing a show on Friday, = though her shows are already sold out.  There is a wait list I believe= , so check the link below if you're interested.  Here's a bett= er description lifted from the event's website:

Bay Area's own troubador, Goh Nakamura, i= s famous for singing about parking tickets, impossible crushes, and faraway= dreamlands. He will develop his tour route that will score to his songs fo= r an audiences equipped with headphones atop a CitySightseeing open-top dou= ble-decker bus. Goh's music has scored and soundtracked a few movies. Now a= udiences can experience their own real life movie in motion. Station hosted= by the Art Engine Gallery on a special AudioBus viewing night of their fea= tured exhibition "The Best I Have Ever Had" by Alexandra Chowanie= c and Kristen Van Diggelen. 

Two Departures : 6:45pm and 8:00pm, Tickets: $12 online BUY NOW ( Extre= mely limited seating. Ticket holders must check-in at least 15 minutes befo= re scheduled departure) 

Soundwave is a multi-venue and multi-d= ate festival happening over the span of two months every two years in San F= rancisco USA. Each season investigates a new idea in sound and invites dive= rse multidisciplinary artists and musicians to explore the season's the= me in new and innovative directions. It challenges and inspires artists and= audiences to look deeper into the sound medium and discover new connection= s to sound making and the sound experience. In its third season, the series= has completed two successful seasons, Season 2's SURROUND>SOUND in = 2006 and Season 1's FREE>SOUND in 2004. The project was recently nam= ed 'Best Sound Sculptures =96 Future Classic' by San Francisco Maga= zine's BEST of 2007 issue.


------=_Part_13754_26193320.1216226248566-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 19:12:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C094E3BE8C; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=iYtJj0bJezZNnuWWhoGliaxwd49lxGaI7nqd+XPhNXmvwyP/KuyXElmP3H9b5npPJ3XSoyL0B1g9mvy6lJ69RFdwwOB7/pHZ3x3zVROheAJ1q2OPXcFnAsjyXmH3vdNLjfECXtnAcPPTDZyJzgNDN1hTaIs5/8oB5UbVhBxP/xY=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:12:16 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Reply-To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com Subject: gig spam - Toronto, Sunday To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-531822743-1216235536=:69153" Message-ID: <782475.69153.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:12:19 +0000 (UTC) --0-531822743-1216235536=:69153 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 I have the pleasure and honour of playing with Daryl Shawn, this Sunday nig= ht in Toronto.=A0 If you're on LD, come up and say hi - Daryl and I will be= the cute ones... =A0 =A0 The info: =A0 The Bread Cabaret Join us on Sunday July 20, 2008 for a night of live performance! Doors open at 7:00 p.m. Performances at 8:00 p.m Tickets: $12 Adults $10 Students, Seniors and Artists Curated by Lisa Pijuan-Nomura=A0=A0=A0- http://www.girlcancreate.com Featuring Mimo - Electronica Alison Jutzi - Singer Songwriter Olga Barrios- Dance Sandra Battaglini - Comedy Lucy Rupert - Modern Dance with special guests Daryl Shawn and Ted Harms - Experimental Music Limited seating =96 come early! Bread and Circus Theatre and Bar In Kensington Market 193 =BD Baldwin St 416-336-3399 www.breadandcircus.ca =A0 Ted Harms. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog =A0=0A=0A=0A --0-531822743-1216235536=:69153 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

I have the pleasure and honour of playing with Daryl Shawn, this Sunday = night in Toronto.  If you're on LD, come up and say hi - Daryl and I w= ill be the cute ones...

 

 

The info:

 

The Bread Cabaret
Join us on Sunday July 20, 2008 for a night of live= performance!

Doors open at 7:00 p.m.
Performances at 8:00 p.m
Tickets: $12 Adults
$10 Students, Seniors and Artists

Curate= d by Lisa Pijuan-Nomura   - http://www.girlcancreate= .com

Featuring
Mimo - Electronica
Alison Jutzi = - Singer Songwriter
Olga Barrios- Dance
Sandra Battaglini - ComedyLucy Rupert - Modern Dance

with special guests
Daryl Shawn and T= ed Harms - Experimental Music

Limited seating =96 come early!
Bre= ad and Circus Theatre and Bar

In Kensington Market
193 =BD Baldwi= n St 416-336-3399
www.breadandc= ircus.ca

 

Ted Harms.

Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

 


=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-531822743-1216235536=:69153-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 20:26:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8C7E3BE8B; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5206 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:26:34 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: loopers delight From: jayrope looper's delight Subject: Repeater CFCs from Pretec still available Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:59:32 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Hey all, David from the Repeater list sent this useful info about Pretec industrial grade CFCs with Hitachi controller still available for the Electrix Repeater. I ordered a 256 MB instantly, will let you all know if it works. best, jayrope http://kliklak.net Begin forwarded message: > In case anyone is still looking around for Pretec CFCs, I found two > sites that have the ones > with the proper Hitachi SAH05 controller. > > http://www.jactron.co.uk/compactflash-industrial-grade-eol-legacy- > products/pretec- > industrial-grade-compactflash-disk-industrial-temp-32mb-to-512mb- > hitachi-sah05/ > > This is a British site that still has 256 MB and under cards. They > are being sold as EOL (End > of Life) and aren't being manufactured new anymore. > > They don't appear to have any 512 MB cards left (none are listed on > the site)--I'm > assuming that's likely because all us Repeater users buying out the > stock earlier. :) > > There's also a Canadian site I found that still has 128 MB and > under cards . . . > > http://cdns.ca/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PLST&Store_Code=TIMASCI > > The ones that match up with the Pretec numbers people have > discussed here before are > the ones that have CFH listed as the first three letters, and then > EH6 as the last three > letters/numbers in the product code. > > The CF means Compact Flash and the H at the beginning is the Pretec > code for "Hitachi > SAH 05". > > Too bad that it looks like all the 512s are now gone. :( But at > least there's still some 256s. > > > with love from the forefront of gentrification in New Bad Berlin ,-) --- jayrope === musical === http://kliklak.net http://aircushionfinish.kliklak.net http://touchdonttouch.com http://myspace.com/prinzenallee === visual === http://jayropinsky.kliklak.net/thingship From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 21:23:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54F4B3BE8C; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 563 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:23:01 UTC X-Trace: 146121023/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIAAMQAfkg+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAIsQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,199,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="146121023" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:13:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: forum Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <487E7290.5643.2B2C16F@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Just a six-monthly reminder to new people that there's a looping foum if anyone wants to partcipate.. http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/ all subscribers need to be approved. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 21:35:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7077B3BE8C; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3310.208.97.187.133.1216244145.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FS: Frankentone Fuzz, Pod..um.. Pod! From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, analogue@hyperreal.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:35:47 +0000 (UTC) A few quickies for sale: FS: Rick Gram Tone Zone Franken Tone Overdrive - $80 obo. Boutique overdrive/fuzz pedal known for it's remarkable attention to sound. Mint in box with papers. Never used except to put a battery in and try it out. These are sold out of a few places and now going for well over $100 on E*bay. I got it in trade and need to clean some stuff out so it's up for grabs on a quick sale at a good price. Can be from a warm overdrive to fuzzy wall of felt over your ears. Very nice and unique. Plus the monster's eyes light up when you step on it to turn on the effect :) This is brand new with box and papers. Line 6 POD. $100 obo. You know the red kidney shaped one. With PS and this is the model with the ethernet connector in it (XT?) Works great, fun to run your drum machine or any cool lap sized toy into while sitting on the counch eating cheetos. Oh yeah, it sounds going recording guitar and shite too. Everything works. sounds great, tastes great. I have references out the wazoo. I pack well and charge real shipping prices. USPS MO or Paypal($3 more). I'll be out of town starting this sat (7/19) so if we don't close the deal before then I'll get back to anyone interested when I return late July. Trades for other interesting drum machine, pedal, weird synth/noise thingies possible. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 22:07:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FAAD3BE86; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=XkGkq/xw+FakcEnj4t4Lc5BTQNLebbmJsdFVw6s+4DtytSMEr/MRB9dLCjD4ElZAPOphIKj9A4Jkyc2SP6Oarswj9n1A/IzEotqKBG/hpMLCVbpc2g1YNKOWSQqENIWX2X0dYwNGgl/4bNov/NvEtb0SwWyeiMBhgIDquz8/+wQ= ; X-YMail-OSG: D4Y1uTgVM1lhD4Okknas9pnSxVLQARn2DrMrLLJNgW0FW77mO_Swvv2SPAF.BdvXElDX9.FU1hYdw.zT8rgEQ5zoyw6LYvorbp8Po0emgMiVqPbREjoa1lkoq10SsFg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--431856188 From: Matt Stevens Subject: http://londonrecording.ning.com/ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:07:08 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: <78s1rC.A.ZhF.REnfIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:07:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--431856188 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey guys Brilliant New social network for those into recording, guitars, production with bonus added looping!!!! http://londonrecording.ning.com/ Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-2--431856188 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Hey guys

Brilliant New social network for those = into recording, guitars, production with bonus added = looping!!!!

= --Apple-Mail-2--431856188-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 22:13:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBF843BE8F; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=2gD/Vz8428HyjxZTLpNM6GlqUgLuootWRuikOt3yIGk=; b=RP9mbj+gXwHVbttWO8sBfrdEXSLL4Mgr7fwxqViHdSKDm55mqjicP3Ac0W6MI5bAlm uZx05f8v5FeDNU3sB0+LxoT4kAbYpa8ADLwTmat/Cds4m/pa7IblVF2zNaGswhxcbBPu BLwTp3gpehLKaCkDNFNwlEwxLGH2JyClkKY7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=RdfdspWGyzpUlalMS912Vf004blQ2afXb1WtStmZjH8T08QAQBuyxm2Fu+sE//OnLX sEkKg9klPWlz6evwl/HJ9RjTghip3poNoiV4uug6V5QhmVv068UUzXvWiApQM73KtZ4y NrNWeUuzqWheGr5xYHzE9nNKgeTrP/EmznRu8= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:13:04 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Another electro-acoustic demonstration (in San Francisco) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:13:05 +0000 (UTC) What weird synergy! I have a very similar event coming up this Sunday in San Francisco: Sunday July 20th, 2008 Musicians Union Hall 116 9th Street @ Mission San Francisco 6:00 pm - 9:00 PM "Touch the Gear!" Free Public Demonstrations and Expo A free public event presented as a micro-demo exposition where local experimental musicians demonstrate how they use their gear, and let you make sounds with their stuff. Explore the mysterious worlds of invented unusual acoustic instruments, computer music software, and "tablecore" electronics, all presented in a friendly environment. With: Matt Davignon - drum machine/fx pedals Tom Duff - homemade cargo-built banjo / modified guitar Lance Grabmiller - PC computer software - AudioMulch Scott Looney - Macintosh patches for sampling and sound manipulation Tom Nunn - Mothics: Hand-built percussion boards LX Rudis - CD DJ rig / Kaoss Pad / AirFX Bob Scott-Sato (Xome) - NoiseFX: Noise pedal retailer Mark Wilson (Conure) - Noise Pedals Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Krispen Hartung was like: > Tomorrow I get the opportunity to demonstrate electro-acoustic music, random > computer effect processing and looping in an interactive way, right in front > of the Boise City Hall and hundreds of people milling around. I just found > out yesterday, so I have been madly creating a alt version of my max rig and > preparing my materials. I will have four instruments on a table, all running > into my computer system, which randomly effects the input, loops, etc: Vocal > mic, the Joe Rut Machine, Madagascar bamboo harp, and Tongue Drum. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 16 22:36:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D27FE3BE91; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=u8ell4ChnR1v8+LrIHigiypYA3qWQm4pb4C9aOHZrls=; b=o72R7Tdut+2ZCTBsJfLm5vD31PwPQqnH+4tJPUcsinJwKujGIWzoUU9FpfxfXXXwGM Vf2dcW0dc/rwfXPN0VIS/r3V34VMIOVsTSrvDJ9zb4qx6EInT6kr6J1LbLseWwusPDb9 FTJS12TYOWoH9JRBcVCbo3fJDqPbpqeBXe4GI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=cUGMfhQGboeGSOOecrsPMqF6BWxa7Q4z5O9ADPgLlEPTIOTzv+nyZ2s1jvzu9Z6x1R gebu/CjM1yTxCFgaTIVks4LksKhVMgMKf65fcbCihGXUu0heSC+sYHN2LdDmtyZP/Lhm jj4CWsnTczFk1xtYKfKDjan5fBD59srG9qZ3s= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807161536l6d85e348p44906f8544e5e36a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:36:34 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: First audio clips form my "Weird Music for Weird People" World Tour... In-Reply-To: <200807091257.m69CvhfC011435@post.webmailer.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200807091257.m69CvhfC011435@post.webmailer.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:36:35 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:57 PM, wrote: > ...are available here: > > http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm, > > documenting my performances at BEMF3 on Friday and Sunday. That's a really nice documentation of the entire festival and its concept! Lots of cool mp3's and pix. Very inspiring! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From jodapaul276@earthlink.com Thu Jul 17 00:05:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2889 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:05:47 UTC Received: from smtp3.uk2.net (smtp3.uk2.net [83.170.81.183]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35983BE8B; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rich-dsl1-41.greenmountainaccess.net ([65.19.75.41] helo=User) by smtp3.uk2.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KJGFU-0000hv-0M; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:17:33 +0100 From: "eBay" Subject: eBay send this message on behalf of an eBay member throught My Messages Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:17:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam_score: 7.1 X-Spam-Score: 7.1 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "spam17.uk2.net". 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Time for vacation? WIN what you need. Enter Now! = --_f9a7c936-2a25-4929-9220-cc8a50eb4a16_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 03:25:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E38673BE8B; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--412746706 Message-Id: From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: Teaspoon Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:25:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:25:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--412746706 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed That looks like fun as a post-loop mangler. Too bad the pitch knob isn't controllable by an expression pedal so you could "play" the Teaspoon as you play guitar or whatever. --- King Never www.kingnever.com On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Tony K wrote: > Whoa, new looper/sample toy. Hurry limited supply! :) > > http://thesquarewaveparade.com/teaspoon-ab.html > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony --Apple-Mail-1--412746706 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 That looks like fun as a post-loop mangler. =A0Too bad the pitch knob = isn't controllable by an expression pedal so you could "play" the = Teaspoon as you play guitar or whatever.= --Apple-Mail-1--412746706-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 03:59:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B161F3BE91; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <040101c8e7c1$72756620$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Another electro-acoustic demonstration (in San Francisco) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:59:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Cool. Today went so well that they are inviting me to a "First Thursday" event here in Boise (where many businesses host musical performances all over town), again in front of City Hall. Plus I was approached by an educator to do the same electro-acoustic demonstration for kids and music students at a public library. Wow, I didn't think I would end up educating folks on this style of music. There is a lot of interest in this out there. People are just amazed at what the computer can do to the sound of an instrument. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: Another electro-acoustic demonstration (in San Francisco) > What weird synergy! I have a very similar event coming up this Sunday > in San Francisco: > > Sunday July 20th, 2008 > Musicians Union Hall > 116 9th Street @ Mission > San Francisco > 6:00 pm - 9:00 PM > > "Touch the Gear!" Free Public Demonstrations and Expo > > A free public event presented as a micro-demo exposition where local > experimental musicians demonstrate how they use their gear, and let > you make sounds with their stuff. Explore the mysterious worlds of > invented unusual acoustic instruments, computer music software, and > "tablecore" electronics, all presented in a friendly environment. > > With: > Matt Davignon - drum machine/fx pedals > Tom Duff - homemade cargo-built banjo / modified guitar > Lance Grabmiller - PC computer software - AudioMulch > Scott Looney - Macintosh patches for sampling and sound manipulation > Tom Nunn - Mothics: Hand-built percussion boards > LX Rudis - CD DJ rig / Kaoss Pad / AirFX > Bob Scott-Sato (Xome) - NoiseFX: Noise pedal retailer > Mark Wilson (Conure) - Noise Pedals > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Krispen Hartung > was like: >> Tomorrow I get the opportunity to demonstrate electro-acoustic music, >> random >> computer effect processing and looping in an interactive way, right in >> front >> of the Boise City Hall and hundreds of people milling around. I just >> found >> out yesterday, so I have been madly creating a alt version of my max rig >> and >> preparing my materials. I will have four instruments on a table, all >> running >> into my computer system, which randomly effects the input, loops, etc: >> Vocal >> mic, the Joe Rut Machine, Madagascar bamboo harp, and Tongue Drum. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 04:08:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F1353BE90; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <041601c8e7c2$c3d6e010$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Small Toy Keyboards Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:08:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0413_01C8E790.78AFC070" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:08:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0413_01C8E790.78AFC070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone know where I can find a very small toy keboard? Nothing fancy, = just small, about 18 inches wide or so. Many years ago I had a small = casio keybaord, but I can't find it anymore. It needs an output jack to = go into my computer. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0413_01C8E790.78AFC070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone know where I can find a = very small toy=20 keboard? Nothing fancy, just small, about 18 inches wide or so. Many = years ago I=20 had a small casio keybaord, but I can't find it anymore. It needs an = output jack=20 to go into my computer.
 
Kris
 
------=_NextPart_000_0413_01C8E790.78AFC070-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 04:31:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D01A3BE87; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=n5ivkofHKxydcS/F39dqo4b4jjIFI5QXtqfcZPvR6FE=; b=BWU6rcgc0dDn+3/nfWf8GjBLm+Jwxlh34mP6mHatqy4xCDfXOug/ROF8Cuqhtj4TaL mwWfOvL585/5UnBgdTMQMLynjUi7TU5AfUQnq5qea2nnYcjhcS27miQo1SZQUyWuc3PI fCImOSsQStsOU3+eu5M/6ole2Ugx2oiqHNzSs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=hjb0R14n/ze8gULHxLFq9ocVkA92IqMgjX9avG3stKLKm3s6PqPk4Ag+2t5LCvtgpX O5USpOvTxGrm8xXBCYIaHcw7It3SXCmfjQbH71KZQ/bfYh+2DC5rfx//T+/LHo298et4 YxTAcT6B8FpokNBoZtu4mqLH1ywpl6cvQaiOY= From: "Tony K" To: References: <041601c8e7c2$c3d6e010$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <041601c8e7c2$c3d6e010$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: RE: Small Toy Keyboards Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:31:18 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c8e7c5$f624a770$e26df650$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8E7A4.6F130770" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcjnwuV+O/gRJOEXTb6bxPjZvsbOrAAAvBsg Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: <_AupZC.A.ac.ZssfIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:31:21 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8E7A4.6F130770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yard sales! I see them all the time. Tony From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:08 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Small Toy Keyboards Anyone know where I can find a very small toy keboard? Nothing fancy, just small, about 18 inches wide or so. Many years ago I had a small casio keybaord, but I can't find it anymore. It needs an output jack to go into my computer. Kris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1555 - Release Date: 7/16/2008 6:43 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8E7A4.6F130770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yard sales!  I see them all the = time.

 

Tony

 

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Anyone know where I can find a very small toy keboard? Nothing fancy, just = small, about 18 inches wide or so. Many years ago I had a small casio keybaord, = but I can't find it anymore. It needs an output jack to go into my = computer.

 

Kris

 

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 07:23:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96CA33BE86; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 48537343/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.205.53 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.205.53 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIAAK6QfkhPTs01/2dsb2JhbAAIsCGDMA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,202,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="48537343" Message-ID: <487EF37D.5010004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:23:41 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Teaspoon References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Matthew F. McCabe wrote: > That looks like fun as a post-loop mangler. Too bad the pitch knob > isn't controllable by an expression pedal so you could "play" the > Teaspoon as you play guitar or whatever. > guitar mounted on-switch and pitch knob would be nice :-) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 08:15:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F343D3BE85; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=QzfSueUhDurvujkwOZOBoakZQtI0wCwg6n6HdK482hM=; b=NRA6Y34Y2DAynuZm7XgAfNSNKLwlZVmoysWSBBZFnsih+BBZIi6qNvxnI3tgbK5zqI bwGCSMiut9aWbhDCJ+fjCjW/tFAgB2KXw661NRjurn0e97e9c5wWSRkGkEbQXfd4DI5R Sk1UA4jdFHPE5RkK33z02yZloxE3cNRCvCLSw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=fUPVuCfVmHAePDZHk/aACdCTD0GCocMILQrvRjlGSDyzJyOjtFXyWm7xoXDEnoBVof FvBHNgifYQ40jxtV5rEyM79GJQPA+GLmL9t6MOATGUWc04ECuehH3fh2H2RSNx/596fG hdKz5n7thcx71/TsMFrggqhXsaz3paAAQA2fg= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:15:15 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: new Augustus Loop is skinnable and scriptable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: e68086b0c3d53ad5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi, See http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ - I just put out a new Augustus Loop beta which is highly configurable. Firstly, you can completely redesign the GUI according to your wants and needs. Secondly, you can script arbitrary response to incoming MIDI events. Would love to hear any comments and feedback. (This first beta is AU only - VST (Mac and Windows) to follow.) cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 08:38:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18F043BE94; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=iewPYkLQKFaXspmvfxAkQGFNZqBI61aEpQjeHEpGDM4=; b=vmg+FGx7LgXo7U3V2r3DM2GbjqAiimqyzOyPhNA3aiSOFSt99FSsd0mneXpd0CWwbt 5Ov18tjLkv7v+28IK3nWpthMOMCwGVGHqpZmeF8Xv99jgl5sWaNuOPBVXKh1b/+d1IpM 3VbrNFONdgsxglOP76lodjNt3jPdMINURL//w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=eNYYS8Y/R9rnt3cCV5c8I+umTHghgoyXEDju6FISthOOflOljzb4SrEDN334GXRL33 dEDtMNIFB1VOQ9/buFkJdG31R2sLXD4DEHmjMq2wwRs0osHEtRbSsqJGArKPbUzUU+W0 36tIbiUZAu5nD0zp3sYH7gKgV2s7IL4d1pDVQ= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807170138r4f88b01ai701ed6dbc6896064@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:38:17 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new Augustus Loop is skinnable and scriptable In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Awesome! I really like to run several instances with the minimized skin. This visual-feedback-that-fits-on-a-laptop-screen is what I have been missing since starting to loop with this plug-in five years ago. Good work, Sleepers! I noticed the "Record Offset" function. Is this for compensating for plug-in latency? -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Os wrote: > Hi, > > See http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ - I just put out a new Augustus > Loop beta which is highly configurable. > > Firstly, you can completely redesign the GUI according to your wants and needs. > > Secondly, you can script arbitrary response to incoming MIDI events. > > Would love to hear any comments and feedback. > > (This first beta is AU only - VST (Mac and Windows) to follow.) > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 08:44:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FA193BE99; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=296/goVg91Le83gH2IeoYRHLe4Ail8lhd0uGzLGzB4c=; b=d/7FvGIHwVevp51/rgsuuKpd2hsCkBjBsq+NyCz08MS6z4cHx2b0en5ckByBP9mTH7 BDLPc2QmPO3xxtcmFu1H4zhAwF1Tmo03wj45PDWcpvsE6TLQjpjp+dXnrqe5rUnXPdw7 LQddtv5iO8cTOpaUGn7+vmpN/JVm4j+k1I4is= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=bLzrFVRGADlKCX7jSCrAjM0LO4FJYM8uSgs0nCjTYy5z55QiKsSbBkdN62l69PNNDt Fwf63xaOWQOFgwuS36JY9Ck1EnXfQejvbTo0vxWtt7AkjTQdXwjs6/s9NqFwV2e0amNf wQqIOCrnDbBhgkQLuq6fdzWeb2diQAEusLt3I= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:44:08 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new Augustus Loop is skinnable and scriptable In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807170138r4f88b01ai701ed6dbc6896064@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0807170138r4f88b01ai701ed6dbc6896064@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6573b0ab2077a00d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:44:09 +0000 (UTC) > I noticed the "Record Offset" function. Is this for compensating for > plug-in latency? Specifically, it's for compensating for the latency of other plug-ins/hardware that you might be using inline with Augustus. It's not for compensating for the latency of Augustus itself - it doesn't introduce any. See http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=187355 cheers, os. 2008/7/17 Per Boysen : > Awesome! I really like to run several instances with the minimized > skin. This visual-feedback-that-fits-on-a-laptop-screen is what I have > been missing since starting to loop with this plug-in five years ago. > Good work, Sleepers! > > I noticed the "Record Offset" function. Is this for compensating for > plug-in latency? > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Os wrote: >> Hi, >> >> See http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ - I just put out a new Augustus >> Loop beta which is highly configurable. >> >> Firstly, you can completely redesign the GUI according to your wants and needs. >> >> Secondly, you can script arbitrary response to incoming MIDI events. >> >> Would love to hear any comments and feedback. >> >> (This first beta is AU only - VST (Mac and Windows) to follow.) >> >> >> cheers, >> os. >> >> -- >> os@collective.co.uk >> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >> >> > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 08:51:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97A2D3BE95; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=eK6Jb1PVmPAy6QNf1Z/TA1idXNMISs6yrKSpJBNqRlQ=; b=IIf0dCiLEwWrTwRxNf4yMCuDElBkgDwRjhqrOIqtr8aL0DF0v9aRDeCsqsxMnuvl3G RwlX3oUch3BhRFFI5x1Bdm1xmlbDGTPVJqjZjMsjSyO4k37ZdWcIP72g0+Id+FC9DdPo h25zmYHE8jxo1dpx9lhLTawGHpR2EXt8Z5E48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=a5XgsubfQSVJtJ9v5clVSoo0bjnH+J+fyVtyToclLGPeT5zX4kWuuxsodtbwvKRJ6d mssTCVz26lvf3LVUtjCMGbiyqqdlNv9j4Us3p7WYCBxAsu7vQK8WD0s80g+AG1HNmfdn WIZ9PiQu1iwp1b0u/WvKrheS1BwV7++6FAbqw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807170151m4a1173c4w557b6fd870844292@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:51:01 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Another electro-acoustic demonstration (in San Francisco) In-Reply-To: <040101c8e7c1$72756620$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <040101c8e7c1$72756620$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:51:02 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Cool. Today went so well that they are inviting me to a "First Thursday" > event here in Boise (where many businesses host musical performances all > over town), again in front of City Hall. Plus I was approached by an > educator to do the same electro-acoustic demonstration for kids and music > students at a public library. Wow, I didn't think I would end up educating > folks on this style of music. There is a lot of interest in this out there. > People are just amazed at what the computer can do to the sound of an > instrument. > > Kris Yes, I too have noticed this. On my recent summer tour about half of the requested gigs were master classes, workshops or lectures. And the trend seems to stretch into the future, as most of the people that requested my card, during this tour, said they want to book some educational activity of mine. Teaching is fun and it actually pays better than performing. Which I think is a bit said, because without your performances there would not be much of interest to teach! ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 10:31:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FBED3BE8F; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:31:51 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <487F1F97.4020101@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: <95R-q.A.pDD.79xfIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:31:24 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Check out Afterglow on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/afterglowonwmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from "All Is Now" on the Timeroom Editions label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#jul Become a friend of Galactic Travels on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. ====================================================================== All times are EDT / GMT-4 / ITZ-5. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 13:41:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 223173BE8C; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <045201c8e812$d4c4c5e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <041601c8e7c2$c3d6e010$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Small Toy Keyboards Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:41:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <6dzk1C.A.e1E.Rw0fIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Cool. Doesn't look like it has a headphone jack. I wonder if I could rig one out of the speakers wires. Kris ----- Original Message ----- Kris, Go to eBay and type in Casio PT-1 in the search box. There are a few there under $10.00 Cheers, Ted On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Anyone know where I can find a very small toy keboard? Nothing fancy, just > small, about 18 inches wide or so. Many years ago I had a small casio > keybaord, but I can't find it anymore. It needs an output jack to go into > my computer. > > Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 14:35:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FE3A3BE93; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <10130611.1213910019552.JavaMail.root@m05> <487E0755.4050701@soundscapes.us> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SouthEast Loopers? (US) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:34:40 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.31.223.13 In-Reply-To: <487E0755.4050701@soundscapes.us> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: enat21213@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CAB63161A85038_B08_791_Webmail-mg10.sim.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CAB631612C55F0-B08-3C3@Webmail-mg10.sim.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:35:08 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CAB63161A85038_B08_791_Webmail-mg10.sim.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ?just got back from asheville from a weekend of looping with my rock outfit "something about vampires and sluts" and tubing down the river! bee back there (wed) aug. 13th with my other looping project "electric bird noise" at the emerald lounge. the emerald lounge is a brand new venue and maybe a good place for fellow loopers to look into. brian no more stars records.com -----Original Message----- From: Bill Fox To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:36 am Subject: Re: SouthEast Loopers? (US) andy garber wrote:? > Wow, great to know there's some friends around -? > I love WNC! I've been going to Linville Gorge since I could drive.? > Also - I go to Belle Chere every year in Asheville (biggest street > fest in NC).? > I'll be there this year too - a bit late for any musical plans I think > but, I'd? > be more than happy to meet up w/ anyone to share a beer and put some > faces? > with some names.? > I'd love to plan a gig in Asheville a bit later this fall.? > If I can find an extra day around a weekend as well,? > it'd be great to keep on trucking down to ATL.? > Please hit me up if you'd like to join forces for a show sometime? > in the fall for Asheville.? Hi Andy,? ? Belle Chere looks fantastic! I've already been to Asheville and Atlanta this year on separate trips. Electro-music in August will make my third trip south this year! I doubt that I can afford much more car travel this year. But I want to keep touch for the future. Please write off-list to talk about WNC plans.? ? Cheers,? ? Bill? ? ----------MB_8CAB63161A85038_B08_791_Webmail-mg10.sim.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
 just got back from asheville from a weekend of looping with my rock outfit "something about vampires and sluts" and tubing down the river!

bee back there (wed) aug. 13th with my other looping project "electric bird noise" at the emerald lounge. the emerald lounge is a brand new venue and maybe a good place for fellow loopers to look into.

brian

no more stars records.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:36 am
Subject: Re: SouthEast Loopers? (US)

andy garber wrote: 
> Wow, great to know there's some friends around - 
> I love WNC! I've been going to Linville Gorge since I could drive. 
> Also - I go to Belle Chere every year in Asheville (biggest street > fest in NC). 
> I'll be there this year too - a bit late for any musical plans I think > but, I'd 
> be more than happy to meet up w/ anyone to share a beer and put some > faces 
> with some names. 
> I'd love to plan a gig in Asheville a bit later this fall. 
> If I can find an extra day around a weekend as well, 
> it'd be great to keep on trucking down to ATL. 
> Please hit me up if you'd like to join forces for a show sometime 
> in the fall for Asheville. 
Hi Andy, 
 
Belle Chere looks fantastic! I've already been to Asheville and Atlanta this year on separate trips. Electro-music in August will make my third trip south this year! I doubt that I can afford much more car travel this year. But I want to keep touch for the future. Please write off-list to talk about WNC plans. 
 
Cheers, 
 
Bill 
 
----------MB_8CAB63161A85038_B08_791_Webmail-mg10.sim.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 14:58:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67E9C3BE99; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 49878933 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: quest for a mobile recorder Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:58:01 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A0F811F@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <487E0A3C.5060002@soundscapes.us> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: quest for a mobile recorder Thread-Index: AcjoHYItRw5ZvQs2SxOWCjeVlw1Iug== References: <487E0A3C.5060002@soundscapes.us> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2008 14:58:01.0974 (UTC) FILETIME=[826A0160:01C8E81D] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:58:04 +0000 (UTC) whichever is the smaller zoom- the one that can do four-channel wavs & pseudo-surround stereo wavs/MP3s, it's extremely good vfm. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 15:07:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEE993BE99; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=A3bCeNdN2nl0Mw9uyF7aukNkJ/PUiUE3Qe1VNTBB3hM=; b=W4d5Xq1ZrGx/XDl+RhIQUmXi5WIoTbqGpv1lGkRfmqZVJx8DzFBZbFi0ZaM5nVaI8u UXxf3fIMLE4mCT1PjbDeIgusX+8lGO3qI783GvtYxpgBaXMxIUI94jopyriwZi3Z1gop xg8hajSz01ZvErIVXO2qYo7P5uZAMrGmhMcmo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=JqFoE1E6z47xIheAhb+qVUr3mgWtxES2tYVM3UNa27UO4WvPRthTPqBxKT3l2Wt55b DPPWywik1k0dpbWTjqKZL7IMpsEGgKPysZQxEwBpkivrZmpsDGR43Wp4HURgccGlSejE LReY5YCSZEkQc6kzZY+nCZjhnoLhcaXUf4HWo= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807170807p5b70cadag3c5a1ca6d9415f6d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:07:30 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: quest for a mobile recorder In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A0F811F@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_41134_30894790.1216307250968" References: <487E0A3C.5060002@soundscapes.us> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A0F811F@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:07:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_41134_30894790.1216307250968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have a Zoom H2. I've never had it come on when I had it switched off, though. The on/off a physical slider on mine. great sound, lots of options...various mp3 and wav formats, etc... On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Goddard, Duncan wrote: > whichever is the smaller zoom- the one that can do four-channel wavs & > pseudo-surround stereo wavs/MP3s, it's extremely good vfm. I just wish > it wouldn't keep switching itself on in it's little coat & wasting > batteries.... :-( but it's done everything I asked of it so far. > > d. > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by > copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the > intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and > any attached files immediately. 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I have a Zoom H2. I've never had it come on when I had it switched off, though. The on/off a physical slider on mine. great sound, lots of options...various mp3 and wav formats, etc...

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Goddard, Duncan <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com> wrote:
whichever is the smaller zoom- the one that can do four-channel wavs &
pseudo-surround stereo wavs/MP3s, it's extremely good vfm. I just wish
it wouldn't keep switching itself on in it's little coat & wasting
batteries.... :-(  but it's done everything I asked of it so far.

d.



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------=_Part_41134_30894790.1216307250968-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 15:25:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35F563BEB6; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=a5PZs2GzNieLkb1AwGHfeadL59Wtw/GfNbfPVeXMJpw=; b=NSF2B6uk618TaL64NVYGnjgwTnpuoqC27ndJc2bBw4idYkzlpsLG5ruAfqFEymgkTv 9IPXlH+UOScyQlJlJsW3QTe28QHneSnekDe4MoMeGspWiOHaKPJQ0W4QSQrZENmKY2xN RlK4qduIB2QZfazKCzARXiPS3M/GFHfkvIK88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=NryLATZMqIuZ5dHpgDdjcG0Y3/lDaATMYVlUq3SXt83/qSiLo7titzUGTCjobTP0xt VhZSq9TxRwxWT/U3eMEsKTL6mLWYK6cFc64yJn95DM91Qob8h7PDB3RBZfXttw4aXZ8H R3qbaC2MvwFjl/ATZT1+/NwilKiXig9PTvHWM= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:25:26 -0600 From: "Adam Hart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Here's what I want to do... what do I need? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6215_26179518.1216308326981" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:25:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6215_26179518.1216308326981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I think I want a sampler/sequencer.... but hear me first. My set up: Devices receiving MIDI messages. 2 EDP's, JunoD (notes, p changes), Dr 880 (notes), Roland Guitar Synth (p changes), Alesis Midiverb (p changes) 1) It would be cool to be able to have a device to load all of my midi tracks into. I suppose I could just use my macbook... but I don't have faith that it wont fail me (good as a backup though). 2) I want to be able to record drum samples in the studio to take to the stage. For example, a shaker loop, or a natural sounding djembe, or just a crazy sound! 3) I want to be able to sample LIVE (my voice mainly) at a predetermined window of time and trigger playbacks in different pitches using my midi guitar or pre programmed midi tracks. I know my computer can do all this... I just don't trust it!! Thanks in advance, Adam ------=_Part_6215_26179518.1216308326981 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I think I want a sampler/sequencer.... but hear me first.
 
My set up: Devices receiving MIDI messages.  2 EDP's, JunoD (notes, p changes), Dr 880 (notes), Roland Guitar Synth (p changes), Alesis Midiverb (p changes)
 
1) It would be cool to be able to have a device to load all of my midi tracks into.  I suppose I could just use my macbook... but I don't have faith that it wont fail me (good as a backup though).
 
2) I want to be able to record drum samples in the studio to take to the stage.  For example, a shaker loop, or a natural sounding djembe, or just a crazy sound!
 
3) I want to be able to sample LIVE (my voice mainly) at a predetermined window of time and trigger playbacks in different pitches using my midi guitar or pre programmed midi tracks.
 
I know my computer can do all this... I just don't trust it!!
 
 
Thanks in advance,
Adam
 
 
------=_Part_6215_26179518.1216308326981-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 15:27:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E9E43BEB2; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 45207280/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.242.88 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.242.88 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIAAN8Bf0hPTvJY/2dsb2JhbAAIsCmDMA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,204,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="45207280" Message-ID: <487F6504.9030509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:28:04 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: :Re: quest for a mobile recorder References: <487E0A3C.5060002@soundscapes.us> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A0F811F@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <499c6bd70807170807p5b70cadag3c5a1ca6d9415f6d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70807170807p5b70cadag3c5a1ca6d9415f6d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Nope, mine doesn't do that either. (often just leave it on by mistake with the same result tho') I really like the mics on the H2, nice full sound, so I'm happy with mine, and use it a lot. ..but it's big fault is that the volume control is in the digital domain, which is totally useless and just needs to be left at 100 (unity gain). That means that you only have a 3 position volume control for mic recording, and none for the line input( which is -10dB with zero headroom before clipping). The limiter is also digital, so not usable. On a more positive note, the new Asio drivers (which need the latest firmware download) work with very low latency, so it works well as an audio interface for looping. (fun with mic an headphones) andy butler Dave wrote: > I have a Zoom H2. I've never had it come on when I had it switched off, > though. The on/off a physical slider on mine. great sound, lots of > options...various mp3 and wav formats, etc... > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 15:33:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 160F03BEC1; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Y8CxUjPDK+1RdsiIy9orRiQLaWt6HMpnAxyJ0ngFaag=; b=u/edMGwnsqj7bdpvoTQiZdRDg//NAQHUvOgVHTLbyGAxk42LPv2odmKbHTRwzNV8M1 C7GyIXSKKDPxVD8gzXO3ov9lmlQdBKeadMFBShqo2TBcx3EmFlYQxEP9ug74dPwCy2VU z+s2JmVC6NY0jnHStaJFFQ91jIi/gyfclKJ5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=q+qE2f++ggm2+cCFplRfnZVMu3bMwgwy5ClP8tFqx8eDBhbEtMKi9rGvv8hrdS16b0 Y6Yc2NCJaDix8KlnP/EINuU5UHcERdBe6N+PTJ5ccPBJnIMtsKQb46hdbx1uDuP+VTe+ dnL8dqCQma6LSEhp9Ipoe8y23hYRlBw3+INMk= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807170833l39e6c0dhf8a53318cbdccb17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:33:31 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: :Re: quest for a mobile recorder In-Reply-To: <487F6504.9030509@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_41483_30195600.1216308811635" References: <487E0A3C.5060002@soundscapes.us> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A0F811F@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <499c6bd70807170807p5b70cadag3c5a1ca6d9415f6d@mail.gmail.com> <487F6504.9030509@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:33:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_41483_30195600.1216308811635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was thinking, after I replied, that maybe he meant the slide got switched in transport whilst being jostled with other equipment. I leave mine on low record setting and normalize the music later. And, if you run straight out of a board, it sounds great. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM, andy butler wrote: > Nope, mine doesn't do that either. > (often just leave it on by mistake with the same result tho') > > I really like the mics on the H2, nice full sound, > so I'm happy with mine, and use it a lot. > > ..but it's big fault is that the volume control is in the digital domain, > which is totally useless and just needs > to be left at 100 (unity gain). > That means that you only have a 3 position volume control for mic > recording, > and none for the line input( which is -10dB with zero headroom before > clipping). > > The limiter is also digital, so not usable. > > On a more positive note, the new Asio drivers (which need the latest > firmware download) > work with very low latency, so it works well as an audio interface for > looping. > (fun with mic an headphones) > > > > andy butler > > > > > Dave wrote: > >> I have a Zoom H2. I've never had it come on when I had it switched off, >> though. The on/off a physical slider on mine. great sound, lots of >> options...various mp3 and wav formats, etc... >> >> >> > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_41483_30195600.1216308811635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I was thinking, after I replied, that maybe he meant the slide got switched in transport whilst being jostled with other equipment.

I leave mine on low record setting and normalize the music later. And, if you run straight out of a board, it sounds great.

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Nope, mine doesn't do that either.
(often just leave it on by mistake with the same result tho')

I really like the mics on the H2, nice full sound,
so I'm happy with mine, and use it a lot.

..but it's big fault is that the volume control is in the digital domain, which is totally useless and just needs
to be left at 100 (unity gain).
That means that you only have a 3 position volume control for mic recording,
and none for the line input( which is -10dB with zero headroom before clipping).

The limiter is also digital, so not usable.

On a more positive note, the new Asio drivers (which need the latest firmware download)
work with very low latency, so it works well as an audio interface for looping.
(fun with mic an headphones)



andy butler




Dave wrote:
I have a Zoom H2. I've never had it come on when I had it switched off, though. The on/off a physical slider on mine. great sound, lots of options...various mp3 and wav formats, etc...






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------=_Part_41483_30195600.1216308811635-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 15:39:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 469E33BEC1; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1200 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:39:14 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1216307954; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=LhfZyEj/SEXbQR9NtV1uolLCljg=; b=GcDbRcl1zVsN+9Cw0Bj3YXms6PAgRLARKd9ZagSkehL1/h03xpaajiSmjTg5PGNm vOtTisS26YJU4z8lUVRcvZZpbiar5dgtc87Z87Iy0AOnDVrlII/1/X4yoT/wZ+N/; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=-GlhOrh-AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=OJ4l8nMiafxXzTr3BxwA:9 a=ADl5j9t2TYLkocCIZJQA:7 a=5ucVoz-4n0pRDfk_AxQDq_XaZdsA:4 a=3rcunIF0aIMA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=Ulc7_e2380IA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001c8e828$dae86ba0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <041601c8e7c2$c3d6e010$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <045201c8e812$d4c4c5e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Small Toy Keyboards Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:19:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Kris, I used to have an Casio SK 1, it has a line out and is loads of fun just for the sampler alone! plus mic input. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZCasioQ20SKQ2d1QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ http://www.casiosk1.com/ Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: Re: Small Toy Keyboards > Cool. Doesn't look like it has a headphone jack. I wonder if I could rig > one out of the speakers wires. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Kris, > > Go to eBay and type in Casio PT-1 in the search box. > > There are a few there under $10.00 > > Cheers, > > Ted > > On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Anyone know where I can find a very small toy keboard? Nothing fancy, >> just small, about 18 inches wide or so. Many years ago I had a small >> casio keybaord, but I can't find it anymore. It needs an output jack to >> go into my computer. >> >> Kris >> > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 9:56 AM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 15:42:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE68E3BEC1; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KOz9cEHurS9Faa0ZNFhECxZdfhPieYR0ukz/4zGEKjM=; b=aFPPhE4eHJGNbPzBKOwIhDzW6gaWRY3nY81P6XMRmkwLXOJLKy2tMnbek7utQR/hsd yDH3mEF67ISC1bbHnn16J+moEMOgY9bx/X9YSqsJp7GBFjXF/RPwLqHa3GkGNphy5ZkL tb9YFEHMe3V/rmiBluUJqL/2bjQ8qKOkhlGfM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=MMdps4RXRCra1VlVnkPXzfNCrYB6t7K2z8zcFVrca82ojLlnHn3R+8lbAIUJIFkFmB EdZ4ZDnIQleZwHygtuSvtBL+bNxjmUAYhy4F7qTUiemZOggx0hLX/cJ/aVqZY1V4XfeD rYtFprLp2FNF1ujolJT4akZz97JGrNUInKH2c= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:42:20 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Small Toy Keyboards In-Reply-To: <001001c8e828$dae86ba0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <041601c8e7c2$c3d6e010$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <045201c8e812$d4c4c5e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <001001c8e828$dae86ba0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, the little SK-1 is cool. I did some composing on mine back in those days: http://www.marksmart.net/randommusic/descent/descent.html I still have it. It's also great fun at parties. Mark Smart http://www.marksmart.net On 7/17/08, Jeff Duke wrote: > Kris, I used to have an Casio SK 1, it has a line out and is loads of fun > just for the sampler alone! plus mic input. > > http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZCasioQ20SKQ2d1QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ > > > http://www.casiosk1.com/ > > > Jeff > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Krispen Hartung" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:41 AM > Subject: Re: Small Toy Keyboards > > >> Cool. Doesn't look like it has a headphone jack. I wonder if I could rig >> one out of the speakers wires. >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> Kris, >> >> Go to eBay and type in Casio PT-1 in the search box. >> >> There are a few there under $10.00 >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ted >> >> On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>> Anyone know where I can find a very small toy keboard? Nothing fancy, >>> just small, about 18 inches wide or so. Many years ago I had a small >>> casio keybaord, but I can't find it anymore. It needs an output jack to >>> go into my computer. >>> >>> Kris >>> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: >> 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 9:56 AM >> >> >> > > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 15:42:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE4663BECA; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=P/Qxt8shu6irQ3XzAlKlBJfYhvUqVEUg3gU/yyTlVE8=; b=dRQ4BhRNHyy+agF8ucgJ+It4p4+22Kq7TnW3xZOfb/MhZ9ssKTd3RKDkk3B5Uj3loW qBNn3M51w6yxHqoOCNqVD7p4wK5Qti8R79ke/LRsdQzpcIx2QmXoTnsCEtumpdls4foo bkkX6X3mcDtjYAgiknbDMnx7Nzuq/pWBR+U6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=YjgUderOESkcqrTENHgTk1pCik277OIR6BHZS/nBhNVPswja59EPTCsAr76RHrCxCL vt8mi/fTcqflY5VPs2Q3OKmI2EKYkeHQA2CDXiECBA5Q7xTsIJjVJdWCfm1tXRMlXFiw zn6k0RmdNaBOh07xHYY8HO5HnfMDFZ+5FtLLU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:42:28 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Here's what I want to do... what do I need? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48382_2094170.1216309348126" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:42:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_48382_2094170.1216309348126 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >I know my computer can do all this... I just don't trust it!! Why not? I'm just curious. I hear this a lot in this group and in some others. Is it just because of 'bad press' ?? Or bad experience? I used to do a lot of process control programming and we used PCs quite a bit. We didn't have issues with crashing any more than any other piece of equipment. Stuff fails, but heck, I've had strings break, batteries die, cables go bad, tubes blow out... Why is it that people think a PC/Mac crash/failure any more likely than any other hardware failure? Just wondering. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Adam Hart wrote: > I think I want a sampler/sequencer.... but hear me first. > > My set up: Devices receiving MIDI messages. 2 EDP's, JunoD (notes, p > changes), Dr 880 (notes), Roland Guitar Synth (p changes), Alesis Midiverb > (p changes) > > 1) It would be cool to be able to have a device to load all of my midi > tracks into. I suppose I could just use my macbook... but I don't have > faith that it wont fail me (good as a backup though). > > 2) I want to be able to record drum samples in the studio to take to the > stage. For example, a shaker loop, or a natural sounding djembe, or just a > crazy sound! > > 3) I want to be able to sample LIVE (my voice mainly) at a predetermined > window of time and trigger playbacks in different pitches using my midi > guitar or pre programmed midi tracks. > > I know my computer can do all this... I just don't trust it!! > > > Thanks in advance, > Adam > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_48382_2094170.1216309348126 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
>I know my computer can do all this... I just don't trust it!!
 
Why not?  I'm just curious.  I hear this a lot in this group and in some others.  Is it just because of 'bad press' ?? Or bad experience?  I used to do a lot of process control programming and we used PCs quite a bit.  We didn't have issues with crashing any more than any other piece of equipment.  Stuff fails, but heck, I've had strings break, batteries die, cables go bad, tubes blow out... Why is it that people think a PC/Mac crash/failure any more likely than any other hardware failure? 

Just wondering.


On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Adam Hart <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
I think I want a sampler/sequencer.... but hear me first.
 
My set up: Devices receiving MIDI messages.  2 EDP's, JunoD (notes, p changes), Dr 880 (notes), Roland Guitar Synth (p changes), Alesis Midiverb (p changes)
 
1) It would be cool to be able to have a device to load all of my midi tracks into.  I suppose I could just use my macbook... but I don't have faith that it wont fail me (good as a backup though).
 
2) I want to be able to record drum samples in the studio to take to the stage.  For example, a shaker loop, or a natural sounding djembe, or just a crazy sound!
 
3) I want to be able to sample LIVE (my voice mainly) at a predetermined window of time and trigger playbacks in different pitches using my midi guitar or pre programmed midi tracks.
 
I know my computer can do all this... I just don't trust it!!
 
 
Thanks in advance,
Adam
 
 



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Tony
------=_Part_48382_2094170.1216309348126-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 15:50:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DC1B3BEA2; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=kQ6cd56Hn5OzxhqBvzdbMkmmFUtk9zAT0jyVN2jx0kk=; b=QOPsOKCoshrBVIufFS3vN93oDqLuKz4oWcsI+BAQZOmeRXNDK/ANh/2gsP2MF2loBp HCwMeDEqnq6vKIK8050nv9CwMNQF1Za4K5glvR3O/c0tQPs6EEjc5ZjJXE4I57tfKnVy ZcyRWjR65kGhrUmx9qfWZSXNxEfF/+Xno334E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ASFGF4FC+GrkuRT8c46dlFDPoGMYN2wuaOgJEcBLyh2UO7qTM2uh6w0yVrd05wbWLT v00qV/9uzV525eVoF+HlpojIBQ0ueRQ0AXFEhDc+USTpLKciaUEjmTvA9cLO2oG5rJ+d Kh/gQagU72AuV0eU/QaCyp2tbEvrC21hst+cs= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:50:14 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Small Toy Keyboards In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48510_23404231.1216309814802" References: <041601c8e7c2$c3d6e010$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <045201c8e812$d4c4c5e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <001001c8e828$dae86ba0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:50:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_48510_23404231.1216309814802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I got one of those at a yard sale! hehe. $5 still in it's original shrink wrapped box (never opened). On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Mark Smart wrote: > Yeah, the little SK-1 is cool. I did some composing on mine back in those > days: > > http://www.marksmart.net/randommusic/descent/descent.html > > I still have it. It's also great fun at parties. > > Mark Smart > http://www.marksmart.net > > On 7/17/08, Jeff Duke wrote: > > Kris, I used to have an Casio SK 1, it has a line out and is loads of fun > > just for the sampler alone! plus mic input. > > > > > http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZCasioQ20SKQ2d1QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ > > > > > > http://www.casiosk1.com/ > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Krispen Hartung" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:41 AM > > Subject: Re: Small Toy Keyboards > > > > > >> Cool. Doesn't look like it has a headphone jack. I wonder if I could rig > >> one out of the speakers wires. > >> > >> Kris > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> > >> Kris, > >> > >> Go to eBay and type in Casio PT-1 in the search box. > >> > >> There are a few there under $10.00 > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Ted > >> > >> On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> > >>> Anyone know where I can find a very small toy keboard? Nothing fancy, > >>> just small, about 18 inches wide or so. Many years ago I had a small > >>> casio keybaord, but I can't find it anymore. It needs an output jack to > >>> go into my computer. > >>> > >>> Kris > >>> > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > >> 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 9:56 AM > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_48510_23404231.1216309814802 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I got one of those at a yard sale! hehe.  $5 still in it's original shrink wrapped box (never opened).



On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, the little SK-1 is cool. I did some composing on mine back in those days:

http://www.marksmart.net/randommusic/descent/descent.html

I still have it. It's also great fun at parties.

Mark Smart
http://www.marksmart.net

On 7/17/08, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Kris, I used to have an Casio SK 1, it has a line out and is loads of fun
> just for the sampler alone! plus mic input.
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZCasioQ20SKQ2d1QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ
>
>
> http://www.casiosk1.com/
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Small Toy Keyboards
>
>
>> Cool. Doesn't look like it has a headphone jack. I wonder if I could rig
>> one out of the speakers wires.
>>
>> Kris
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>> Kris,
>>
>> Go to eBay and type in Casio PT-1 in the search box.
>>
>> There are a few there under $10.00
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know where I can find a very small toy keboard? Nothing fancy,
>>> just small, about 18 inches wide or so. Many years ago I had a small
>>> casio keybaord, but I can't find it anymore. It needs an output jack to
>>> go into my computer.
>>>
>>> Kris
>>>
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database:
>> 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 9:56 AM
>>
>>
>>
>
>


--
Mark Smart
http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
http://www.marksmart.net




--
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Tony
------=_Part_48510_23404231.1216309814802-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 16:28:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28FA23BEC5; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:28:34 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Small Toy Keyboards In-reply-to: <26215896.1216268652504.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <487F7332.4020109@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <26215896.1216268652504.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > Anyone know where I can find a very small toy keboard? Nothing fancy, > just small, about 18 inches wide or so. Many years ago I had a small > casio keybaord, but I can't find it anymore. It needs an output jack > to go into my computer. Dollar Tree, Dollar Store, et al have these every now and then. Great for circuit bending because you don't care if you break them! Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 16:39:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48B3A3BECF; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Sender: lunamusic@mac.com In-reply-to: References: Message-id: <086F09D0-412E-4116-B383-8B932118761F@mac.com> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: OT: Here's what I want to do... what do I need? Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:39:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Trust it. On Jul 17, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Adam Hart wrote: > I think I want a sampler/sequencer.... but hear me first. > > My set up: Devices receiving MIDI messages. 2 EDP's, JunoD (notes, > p changes), Dr 880 (notes), Roland Guitar Synth (p changes), Alesis > Midiverb (p changes) > > 1) It would be cool to be able to have a device to load all of my > midi tracks into. I suppose I could just use my macbook... but I > don't have faith that it wont fail me (good as a backup though). > > 2) I want to be able to record drum samples in the studio to take > to the stage. For example, a shaker loop, or a natural sounding > djembe, or just a crazy sound! > > 3) I want to be able to sample LIVE (my voice mainly) at a > predetermined window of time and trigger playbacks in different > pitches using my midi guitar or pre programmed midi tracks. > > I know my computer can do all this... I just don't trust it!! > > > Thanks in advance, > Adam > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 17:04:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BACA73BEC4; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=o82VlDef0YwORtJKDj8Hdkodua79MMGNpxppw0hgeKQ=; b=YP89FeA+QV3RpdZcjnHNDHpAjQSIVDZMZV0QYHxe1ki+31+e/kwsvnGfNYYYA9WJsH mdqHSRiGbEOWc506SRSqzBsG0EjVf8wqzIlN4sDXUbCiDzbmSK3gV0ILFflQcCaJsSpT uDMCdtWw1IfmQZrSSg7sRFEZoGB1SSYrb3kkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=nXQjbSEkFnL7ObDQBzJMc+hO0gjwxDTtE2okkWCr8sAeXpa8yYZs6Q1gi95pzz2HxB C0XqTUi5T7zsxnEYeY2LtOX/Ta+pvGX+AemnKIawV4QymcnyaIZDhbFAj+WWn1nVdXKd sFXHpvCceHnJDNcZhg44my3C3ARCZ5V4V3il4= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:04:56 -0600 From: "Adam Hart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Here's what I want to do... what do I need? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7467_17765992.1216314296933" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:04:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7467_17765992.1216314296933 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I know there are e-mails in the archive relating to stripping down a computer, eliminating processes, etc. so I will definetly research those and look into using a computer to do everything I need... I think I should. I am not an expert user, so a plug and play option is much more convenient, safe and understandable. For a non-expert user like myself all the technical aspects are very daunting. I don't know anything about how a computer operates, or how to customize beyond the GUI. *If someone would/could show me their setup, give me a demo and let me pick their brain... I would be... SO thankful. Is there anyone on the list that lives near NE Wyoming (within 6 hours or so) that can do this??? Heck, even a Skype session would be extremely valuable to me to answer some of my questions.* >Why is it that people think a PC/Mac crash/failure any more likely than any other hardware failure? >Is it just because of 'bad press' ?? Or bad experience? For me that conclusion is based entirely on my experience. None of my hardware has *ever* crashed except for an EDP (but it was my fault, not the EDP's). Cubase on my Mac has jumped while playing, frozen up, and even quit. I fully expect computers that handle hundreds of processes simoultaneously to tweak out unexpectedly from time to time, based on my experience. I think that a device specifically dedicated to a specific task will be less likely to fail and handle the task better... again, based on my experience. Again, I know it's very possible to loop/sequence/sample with 1 or more computers, but there is a problem with the interface between the floor and the keyboard... i.e. ME :) For troubleshooting computer performance issues I am limitied to 1) turning airport off 2) restarting my computer 3) Fiddling with the sample rates. How do I maximize my computer CPU power? How do I strip a computer down of unneeded processes? Does the program have bugs? What about updates, are they affecting it? I haven't the foggiest. So, I'm likely to go into battle already crippled by my lack of technical knowledge if (at this point) I decide to go with a computer that I use for e-mail, word processing, iTunes, video, bitTorrent, etc, etc. Maybe in the future I will use a computer or two that are *dedicated* to making music but I'm not there yet, if and when I feel comfortable doing so, i.e. when I have faith in my knowledge and technical abilities. Really, if someone is willing to take the time to Skype out or even meet... that would take me light years ahead in the right dirrection. Thanks!! Adam ------=_Part_7467_17765992.1216314296933 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I know there are e-mails in the archive relating to stripping down a computer, eliminating processes, etc. so I will definetly research those and look into using a computer to do everything I need... I think I should. 
 
I am not an expert user, so a plug and play option is much more convenient, safe and understandable.  For a non-expert user like myself all the technical aspects are very daunting.  I don't know anything about how a computer operates, or how to customize beyond the GUI. 
 
If someone would/could show me their setup, give me a demo and let me pick their brain... I would be... SO thankful.  Is there anyone on the list that lives near NE Wyoming (within 6 hours or so) that can do this???  Heck, even a Skype session would be extremely valuable to me to answer some of my questions.
 
>Why is it that people think a PC/Mac crash/failure any more likely than any other hardware failure?
>Is it just because of 'bad press' ?? Or bad experience? 
For me that conclusion is based entirely on my experience.  None of my hardware has ever crashed except for an EDP (but it was my fault, not the EDP's).  Cubase on my Mac has jumped while playing, frozen up, and even quit.  I fully expect computers that handle hundreds of processes simoultaneously to tweak out unexpectedly from time to time, based on my experience.  I think that a device specifically dedicated to a specific task will be less likely to fail and handle the task better... again, based on my experience. Again, I know it's very possible to loop/sequence/sample with 1 or more computers, but there is a problem with the interface between the floor and the keyboard... i.e. ME :) 
 
For troubleshooting computer performance issues I am limitied to 1) turning airport off 2) restarting my computer 3) Fiddling with the sample rates.  How do I maximize my computer CPU power?  How do I strip a computer down of unneeded processes? Does the program have bugs? What about updates, are they affecting it?  I haven't the foggiest.  So, I'm likely to go into battle already crippled by my lack of technical knowledge if (at this point) I decide to go with a computer that I use for e-mail, word processing, iTunes, video, bitTorrent, etc, etc.  Maybe in the future I will use a computer or two that are *dedicated* to making music but I'm not there yet, if and when I feel comfortable doing so, i.e. when I have faith in my knowledge and technical abilities.
 
Really, if someone is willing to take the time to Skype out or even meet... that would take me light years ahead in the right dirrection.
 
 
Thanks!!
 
Adam
 
 
 
 
 
------=_Part_7467_17765992.1216314296933-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 17:54:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 307F93BED5; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=mk758QiFIN0/78N/gEu/0b/YhB7wpsBDBD37IP5hwp52yzaX8ywMAaR7kPSS8FPqz/TlIr4F427Nwz6ZYyBQxsj5FXYFqwnr92Q7SAIajfFq5yzcNSKlqt4si5YRm5st; Message-ID: <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:54:03 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a. portable PA speakers References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:54:07 +0000 (UTC) This topic caught my interest because I am looking for one or two =20 powered floor monitors. I know that I could get a couple more SRM450s =20 and that would work... however, I'm wondering if the 350s would work =20 ok as floor monitors? After all, they are less expensive, smaller, and lighter. Any thoughts? -- Kevin Quoting Buzap Buzap : > > Hi Rick & everyone > > as 10" active PAs, I'd recommend the FBT or the RCFs - imho, don't =20 > waste your time with anything else. > > Check this review: > http://www.tagnz.co.nz/Test%20Report%2010inch%20%20Pow.%20Speakers%20Tools= %20engl1.pdf > > I've compared quite a few of them and stuck with the FBT - to me, =20 > FBT and RCFs are on par. > The FBT has more inputs/EQ. The RCF is a bit easier to carry and =20 > more well-known (if you want to sell them). > > Buzap > > PS: there are also new FBTs out with killer output - and killer price ;-) > -- > GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spa=DF haben mit =20 > Pastry Passion! > http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169= 196 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 17 19:26:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 650903BEC2; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:26:36 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=QQlypopzym8Y8kIjsLFk/UEP6vBoupE4EQ/waFWp3pB3OShnEqbvVJdYPICEzV0Rrv35lkDrbI1Z9V8IvD2UGfiP0H9fdxjAQrGDenzBtciZDXjD+w4yVm6+5XUsnt6qJZuVHrrIhppcfM/xDnNyC7E3aNri/EGrdCH0YoLoRKA=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:19:56 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: Re: Pretec CFCs Still Available To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2140641318-1216322396=:80819" Message-ID: <440461.80819.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2bTcp.A.sIC.tz5fIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:26:37 +0000 (UTC) --0-2140641318-1216322396=:80819 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, I believe timatec.com and the canadian site I sent the link for are the same site. Fro--A couple questions for you: a) Which card did you try? [Model Number?] What size was it? b) by "put it through the loops" what testing did you do? Did you record 4 mono tracks and then also reverse them? Did you do stereo recording, and record a stereo overdub in reverse? I wanted to ask, because, and folks may know this, but for newer posters, all of this information is important when we report on CFCs for Repeater. Simply getting them to record 4 mono tracks does not mean it's going to be fully functional (it needs to do stereo recording, and well as reverse stereo overdub to meet that criteria). I wanted to mention this because, a few months ago, someone reported on the repeater users list that SanDisk Ultra IIs work, because they do 4 tracks without error messages. However, based on my own testing this week, what "they work" appears to mean is that it can record 4 mono tracks. When I did stereo recording, or try to do stereo overdub in reverse, I got slow CFC error messages. Now, it may be I got a bad card, and others might work (see prior threads on the "hit or miss" nature of, for example, SimpleTech cards post 2003/2004 or so). I ordered a second one yesterday from another Ebay seller, and will give that one a shot, because who knows, maybe it was a fluke. But if it isn't--then luckily, I only spent about $25 on getting 512MB Ultra IIs from Ebay sellers to discover this. But given how scarce these cards are becoming in terms of actually finding them anyplace, we are going to be likely be moving to a strictly second hand market sales route soon (like Ebay), once places like the two industrial Web site seller sites are out of stock. And in that market, there are no returns. (Not like the "old days" a couple years ago where some of us were lucky to find retail sellers who would accept returns). So, it would help all of us out in terms of spending $ on these and not being able to return them if we know the whole test has been carried out. Thanks, David --0-2140641318-1216322396=:80819 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,


I believe timatec.com a= nd the canadian site I sent the link for are the same site.


Fro--A couple = questions for you:


a) Which card did you try? [Model Number?] What size was = it?


b) by "put it through the loops" what testing did you do? Did yo= u record 4 mono tracks and then also reverse them? Did you do stereo record= ing, and record a stereo overdub in reverse?


I wanted to ask, because, and f= olks may know this, but for newer posters, all of this information is impor= tant when we report on CFCs for Repeater.=A0


Simply getting them to record 4= mono tracks does not mean it's going to be fully functional (it needs to d= o stereo recording, and well as reverse stereo overdub to meet that criteri= a).


I wanted to mention this because, a few months ago, someone r= eported on the repeater users list that SanDisk Ultra IIs work, because the= y do 4 tracks without error messages. However, based on my own testing this= week, what "they work" appears to mean is that it can record 4 mono tracks= . When I did stereo recording, or try to do stereo overdub in reverse, I go= t slow CFC error messages.


Now, it may be I got a bad card, and others might= work (see prior threads on the "hit or miss" nature of, for example, Simpl= eTech cards post 2003/2004 or so). I ordered a second one yesterday from an= other Ebay seller, and will give that one a shot, because who knows, maybe = it was a fluke.


But if it isn't--then luckily, I only spent about $25 on gett= ing 512MB Ultra IIs from Ebay sellers to discover this. But given how scarc= e these cards are becoming in terms of actually finding them anyplace, we a= re going to be likely be moving to a strictly second hand market sales rout= e soon (like Ebay), once places like the two industrial Web site seller sit= es are out of stock. =A0And in that market, there are no returns. (Not like= the "old days" a couple years ago where some of us were lucky to find reta= il sellers who would accept returns).


So, it would help all of us out in ter= ms of spending $ on these and not being able to return them if we know the = whole test has been carried out.


Thanks,


David


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 18 00:14:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 407FE3BED5; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 45423472/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.171.225 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.171.225 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApgAAO18f0hPRqvh/2dsb2JhbAAIsEaDNg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,206,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="45423472" Message-ID: <487FE062.30509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:14:26 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: :Re: quest for a mobile recorder OT References: <487E0A3C.5060002@soundscapes.us> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A0F811F@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <499c6bd70807170807p5b70cadag3c5a1ca6d9415f6d@mail.gmail.com> <487F6504.9030509@tiscali.co.uk> <499c6bd70807170833l39e6c0dhf8a53318cbdccb17@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70807170833l39e6c0dhf8a53318cbdccb17@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_Uu0R.A.62H.cB-fIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Dave wrote:(about zoom H2) > I was thinking, after I replied, that maybe he meant the slide got > switched in transport whilst being jostled with other equipment. > > I leave mine on low record setting and normalize the music later. And, > if you run straight out of a board, it sounds great. > The low/mid/high setting doesn't affect the line in. If the desk has a volume control on the tape out, then no problems. To record from my Behringer mixer, I had to make a special lead with attenuators. The first recording I tried was ruined by distortion (while the meters showed all ok) :-) but as you say, it does make nice recordings under the right circumstances andy butler From liverwin@mchsi.com Fri Jul 18 01:31:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:31:06 UTC Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4353BECA for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sccqwbc13 (scommcenter13.asp.att.net[204.127.203.173]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20080718012328m92009bpjke>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:26:04 +0000 Received: from [41.205.160.23] by sccqwbc13; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:23:27 +0000 From: liverwin@mchsi.com (National Liverwood Lottery Inc.) 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 18 02:50:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21C3E3BED9; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Sender: lunamusic@mac.com Message-id: <4AF92E1B-5071-4E80-9860-37E061954F05@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: Worlds best midi controller Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:50:46 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:50:49 +0000 (UTC) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/17/thought-controlled- comput_n_113476.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 18 06:45:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C16993BED5; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=T3VFxQO+akN0jGxoHb2d584hU7wRLut1VqkmiMHLYuxC5ILWvCCdZ8ufBdKfzh9AVQNlW89gBgiYMNU1sVNufPlfNOzZiyaRE7sIN6YOj9n0jacWErTNreaqf4+xYrWdS/yOYQ1z6/dwFce0wu2f9sALyLIMm7BY8Tl+r8Pm2l8=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:45:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT:Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <214380.93727.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:45:37 +0000 (UTC) i tried all of these,with and without subs and at then end the good ol JBL = EONs 15G2 won my ears,plenty of bass no need to carry x-tra subs nice and f= ull warm sound can be used with a full band or alone,great for acoustic as = well! my 2 pesos Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > From: Krispen Hartung > Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.port= able PA speakers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 12:42 PM > I uses the 350s as floor monitors, or side fills. For the > bigger stages, I=20 > uses those plus two EV SxA100 powered 12" speakers. I > just chain from one to=20 > the other, L and R. >=20 > I have the RCF powered 12"s for mains, along with two > of the Mackie=20 > SWA1501s. Kick butt system. I used it for my festival > this year and it was=20 > crystal clear, loud, etc. >=20 > I love the RCFs, but realistically there is no > "dramatic" difference between=20 > them, the Mackie's, and JBLs. Anyone who has something > to gain from=20 > promoting either of these (sales people, people endorsed by > them, people who=20 > already own them and are justifying their purchases after > the fact, etc)=20 > will no doubt claim that they sound radically different, > which is expected,=20 > bu not hard data for a sound decision. For most pracitcal > contexts, either=20 > is fine in my option. I've never been to a show where > these three brands=20 > sounded bad or inferior, so we are really starting to spice > hairs and get=20 > into personal preference. >=20 > Kris >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 >=20 > This topic caught my interest because I am looking for one > or two > powered floor monitors. I know that I could get a couple > more SRM450s > and that would work... however, I'm wondering if the > 350s would work > ok as floor monitors? >=20 > After all, they are less expensive, smaller, and lighter.=20 > Any thoughts? >=20 > -- Kevin >=20 > Quoting Buzap Buzap : > > > > Hi Rick & everyone > > > > as 10" active PAs, I'd recommend the FBT or > the RCFs - imho, don't waste=20 > > your time with anything else. > > > > Check this review: > > > http://www.tagnz.co.nz/Test%20Report%2010inch%20%20Pow.%20Speakers%20Tool= s%20engl1.pdf > > > > I've compared quite a few of them and stuck with > the FBT - to me, FBT=20 > > and RCFs are on par. > > The FBT has more inputs/EQ. The RCF is a bit easier to > carry and more=20 > > well-known (if you want to sell them). > > > > Buzap > > > > PS: there are also new FBTs out with killer output - > and killer price ;-) > > -- > > GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und > Spa=DF haben mit Pastry=20 > > Passion! > > > http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/616= 9196 > > > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 18 07:29:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B64C53BEE0; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 45504227/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.131.2 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.131.2 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApgAAODif0hPToMC/2dsb2JhbAAIrzGDOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,208,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="45504227" Message-ID: <48804644.8080300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:29:08 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen><20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > I love the RCFs, but realistically there is no "dramatic" difference > between them, the Mackie's, and JBLs. Personally, when I heard the JBLs was the first time I ever thought about getting a pa. I can get "my sound" on good studio monitors, and on the JBLs, but not on anything else. (although the Mackies are acceptable, especially if not too loud) I don't know the RCF's, but I find quite a lot of difference between the JBL's and the Mackies. I prefer the JBL's for the relatively un-colored sound and find the Mackies a bit fatiguing to listen to, especially as the volume goes up. However, I'm sure there's folks who'd prefer the "punchy" Mackie sound. I'd hazard a guess that the different speakers are aimed at different types of music. > r, so we are really > starting to spice hairs and get into personal preference. > Indeed, there's a lot of pa's out there which sound so much worse than these ones. (ever been to a London venue? :-) ..but then I spice my hair over every other aspect of the sound too. (with Dalek Shampoo of course ) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 18 11:57:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75E533BEDE; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Sender: lunamusic@mac.com Message-id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: Audio Damage Ricochet Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:57:42 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <95tg_B.A.Wx.6UIgIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:57:46 +0000 (UTC) If anybody is in the market for a Multi Tap Delay. This new Delay from Audio Damage is absolutely fantastic. I just got it yesterday and its very easy to get ridiculously cool sounds. Plus its only 50 bucks. I would give it 10 stars. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 18 13:33:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21C543BEE1; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=eo3LidByumDKloQ268yVbiOQfpz2/WD0dsxRtMuM3GWLlGXp0vpODOxzEunefX8vXkQ3zy640DP9x4has6JY5Pv2o7tqwSlyyF4PFcXHHqEVeu0JBGi8oSxALrVKw+I9; Message-ID: <20080718083338.wf18g5ox5w48wocc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:33:38 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Audio Damage Ricochet References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Chris, Is this a plugin or is this hardware? YES, YES -- I very much want a multi-tap delay -- particularly one where I can assign each tap to its own channel. -- Kevin Quoting Chris Sewell : > > If anybody is in the market for a Multi Tap Delay. This new Delay from > Audio Damage is absolutely fantastic. I just got it yesterday and its > very easy to get ridiculously cool sounds. Plus its only 50 bucks. I > would give it 10 stars. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 18 13:40:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46FBB3BEEA; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=knjlDWYWXttBt8ik3yCLGzm1Iz1i6wQyYSfsrXE1mfM=; b=PRASRzDdG1UYGaUUxYQBhtnju8ZDa37nI2tdNxeiG7GOrfafYEhqYv+1JNQO8kIZxi uraargzYypQYJfv1ZtHTEYaqIt8LzXHH3zzi7UXb2OhXyJES0I7NL4Q9v4o25iZXKMvH f2ed3LTGrxpI/teT2u8H4rq7kmBm7F+k/9od4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=aKWJn52hg9ZftYq6pcUB1Ffb9FbSz/0uqivAV9xpus/0zfHyHzmScHSMVahXsumBC3 es9XwGWipXZQEv46oQRHXzLBe47ynA++dFTEDbGZF4gTN41ysDhiuZO1wEJbEm7oLFQo AS+Th+0qpi0eYime/JEmgKvCut70qLo1/fnpo= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807180640u77168b51n60e81aa2ad7522dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:40:24 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Audio Damage Ricochet In-Reply-To: <20080718083338.wf18g5ox5w48wocc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080718083338.wf18g5ox5w48wocc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kevin, It's a software plug-in. Described at http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD018. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:33 PM, wrote: > Chris, > > Is this a plugin or is this hardware? > > YES, YES -- I very much want a multi-tap delay -- particularly one where I > can assign each tap to its own channel. > > -- Kevin > > Quoting Chris Sewell : >> >> If anybody is in the market for a Multi Tap Delay. This new Delay from >> Audio Damage is absolutely fantastic. I just got it yesterday and its >> very easy to get ridiculously cool sounds. Plus its only 50 bucks. I >> would give it 10 stars. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 18 14:56:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCDA73BEEA; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=sMQ/4DWTgc2e6f+2Ha7rOlKitMgPDDOlOjyD9mtknJmk1CzDcftABpeauEnQLqsdQMJJUw9bwIBvKP4xsKx390WCRntNzXLXcer7bXpaC2rz0mhmmgxIfmLAcPIu054c; Message-ID: <20080718095615.dfv18igtw8k0skoc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:15 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Audio Damage Ricochet References: <20080718083338.wf18g5ox5w48wocc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <66f9cc1e0807180640u77168b51n60e81aa2ad7522dd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807180640u77168b51n60e81aa2ad7522dd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Ah yes... I think I stumbled upon this before however this thread =20 motivated me to download and read the manual in detail. It appears the plugin has a stereo output -- each tap is independently =20 pannable. This plugin would be a great improvement over the (Cubase supplied) =20 "Double Delay" plugin that I used at Y2K7 and Electro-music. The manual says that the pre-delay can be set to maximum delay of four =20 seconds. The taps can be set to a maximum of two seconds each. So, my question is: are the taps connected in series (that is, at the =20 max setting, the fifth tap would delay fourteen seconds (4+2+2+2+2+2) =20 after the original signal or in parallel meaning that the max delay =20 time would be six seconds (4 sec pre-delay + 2 second tap)? -- Kevin Quoting Per Boysen : > > Hi Kevin, > > It's a software plug-in. Described at > http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=3DAD018. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:33 PM, wrote: >> Chris, >> >> Is this a plugin or is this hardware? >> >> YES, YES -- I very much want a multi-tap delay -- particularly one where = I >> can assign each tap to its own channel. >> >> -- Kevin >> >> Quoting Chris Sewell : >>> >>> If anybody is in the market for a Multi Tap Delay. This new Delay from >>> Audio Damage is absolutely fantastic. I just got it yesterday and its >>> very easy to get ridiculously cool sounds. Plus its only 50 bucks. I >>> would give it 10 stars. >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 18 23:17:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 096F33BE85; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=mMjYnyjBO9xJgJXSDJa/vX1qmVHW/V5p8q29u1Q2eYU=; b=F1+D2uT6CDUJo8kKbIsJVcgMPRg3sPCitr55+fPhAgki1p2CInmGHPqfyBeGf4Z0sp d8wNWeqxK+I/wN1u/NIjEOSIIVltXUS6bjVdby9DaR9smvDpHKs2w70KzmTJ30khFdOp xYyfPyP7KKeJnbt+tC9a8hjL+ROsU2C6Dy7g0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=keI20123YiDT3yyQ2v59M0fRFN64Dm2/bk/KIplHFqzEw1XZrasX+OOVbJ69GbCKf6 98sa6QoUrqnhAfldUwIp8sN3aVROMGVCxheoHeXroYwihk1fvmKERHeNNVFbjaGyPKL/ frLZ2/AGIKPBrkHBNZ6OnQxlMQjpoVQSaGBBg= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:17:13 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: Gibson Echoplex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_65974_22250368.1216423033084" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:17:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_65974_22250368.1216423033084 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I Just Bought A Echoplex Digital Pro Plus and i figured out how to sync to cubase and that is great for jamming at home by my computer. but how do you use the echoplex with a drummer live in perfect rythym away from the computer. Do you Quantize?, or do you have a rack unit that sends a midi clock signal to the echoplex or what? ------=_Part_65974_22250368.1216423033084 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I Just Bought A Echoplex Digital Pro Plus and i figured out how to sync to cubase and that is great for jamming at home by my computer. but how do you use the echoplex with a drummer live in perfect rythym away from the computer. Do you Quantize?, or do you have a rack unit that sends a midi clock signal to the echoplex or what?
------=_Part_65974_22250368.1216423033084-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 00:47:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F002E3BE7B; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0233c806-4f70-470c-bde8-ac12fd717179_" X-Originating-IP: [72.161.140.198] From: J Johans To: Subject: RE: Pretec CFCs Still Available Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:47:16 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <440461.80819.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <440461.80819.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2008 00:47:17.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE197220:01C8E938] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:47:18 +0000 (UTC) --_0233c806-4f70-470c-bde8-ac12fd717179_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 128 MB CF CFH128-CP i was wrong about the price=2C more towards $60 = w/shipping =20 putting it through the loops =3DD: =20 i looped on it for several hours i let it record a single track for 5minutes...then overdubbed for 5min..and= kept going untill i gotbored stereo and mono worked fine i tried feeding it as many commands at once or in sequence and never got it= to display error i did not test with reverse=2C but that is probably a function that is the = most demanding on the cfc- =20 i only had it for 1 night as i sent it to peter along with one of my repeat= ers which is sick- i figured he'd be able to tell better than i =20 but all in all=2C it never gave me cfc slow message in about 5 hours of act= ion =20 ill keep ya'll posted fro Date: Thu=2C 17 Jul 2008 12:19:56 -0700From: daviddurian@yahoo.comSubject: = Re: Pretec CFCs Still AvailableTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hi all=2C I believe timatec.com and the canadian site I sent the link for are the sam= e site. Fro--A couple questions for you: a) Which card did you try? [Model Number?] What size was it? b) by "put it through the loops" what testing did you do? Did you record 4 = mono tracks and then also reverse them? Did you do stereo recording=2C and = record a stereo overdub in reverse? I wanted to ask=2C because=2C and folks may know this=2C but for newer post= ers=2C all of this information is important when we report on CFCs for Repe= ater.=20 Simply getting them to record 4 mono tracks does not mean it's going to be = fully functional (it needs to do stereo recording=2C and well as reverse st= ereo overdub to meet that criteria). I wanted to mention this because=2C a few months ago=2C someone reported on= the repeater users list that SanDisk Ultra IIs work=2C because they do 4 t= racks without error messages. However=2C based on my own testing this week= =2C what "they work" appears to mean is that it can record 4 mono tracks. W= hen I did stereo recording=2C or try to do stereo overdub in reverse=2C I g= ot slow CFC error messages. Now=2C it may be I got a bad card=2C and others might work (see prior threa= ds on the "hit or miss" nature of=2C for example=2C SimpleTech cards post 2= 003/2004 or so). I ordered a second one yesterday from another Ebay seller= =2C and will give that one a shot=2C because who knows=2C maybe it was a fl= uke. But if it isn't--then luckily=2C I only spent about $25 on getting 512MB Ul= tra IIs from Ebay sellers to discover this. But given how scarce these card= s are becoming in terms of actually finding them anyplace=2C we are going t= o be likely be moving to a strictly second hand market sales route soon (li= ke Ebay)=2C once places like the two industrial Web site seller sites are o= ut of stock. And in that market=2C there are no returns. (Not like the "ol= d days" a couple years ago where some of us were lucky to find retail selle= rs who would accept returns). So=2C it would help all of us out in terms of spending $ on these and not b= eing able to return them if we know the whole test has been carried out. Thanks=2C David _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM= _WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008= --_0233c806-4f70-470c-bde8-ac12fd717179_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 128 MB CF =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B CFH128-CP =3B=  =3Bi was wrong about the price=2C more towards $60 w/shipping
 =3B
putting it through the loops =3DD:
 =3B
i looped on it for several hours
i let it record a single track for 5minutes...then overdubbed for 5min..and= kept going untill i gotbored
stereo and mono worked fine
i tried feeding it as many commands at once or in sequence and never got it= to display error
i did not test with reverse=2C but that is probably a function that is the = most demanding on the cfc-
 =3B
i only had it for 1 night as i sent it to peter along with one of my repeat= ers =3Bwhich =3Bis sick-
i figured he'd be able to tell better than i
 =3B
but all in all=2C it never gave me cfc slow message in about =3B5 hours= of action
 =3B
ill keep ya'll posted
fro


Date: Thu=2C 17 Jul 2008 12:19:56 -0700
From: daviddurian@yahoo.com
S= ubject: Re: Pretec CFCs Still Available
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com


Hi all=2C


I believe timatec.com and the canadian si= te I sent the link for are the same site.


Fro--A couple questions for you:


a) Which card did you try? [Model Number?= ] What size was it?


b) by "put it through the loops" what tes= ting did you do? Did you record 4 mono tracks and then also reverse them? D= id you do stereo recording=2C and record a stereo overdub in reverse?


I wanted to ask=2C because=2C and folks m= ay know this=2C but for newer posters=2C all of this information is importa= nt when we report on CFCs for Repeater. =3B


Simply getting them to record 4 mono trac= ks does not mean it's going to be fully functional (it needs to do stereo r= ecording=2C and well as reverse stereo overdub to meet that criteria).


I wanted to mention this because=2C a few= months ago=2C someone reported on the repeater users list that SanDisk Ult= ra IIs work=2C because they do 4 tracks without error messages. However=2C = based on my own testing this week=2C what "they work" appears to mean is th= at it can record 4 mono tracks. When I did stereo recording=2C or try to do= stereo overdub in reverse=2C I got slow CFC error messages.


Now=2C it may be I got a bad card=2C and = others might work (see prior threads on the "hit or miss" nature of=2C for = example=2C SimpleTech cards post 2003/2004 or so). I ordered a second one y= esterday from another Ebay seller=2C and will give that one a shot=2C becau= se who knows=2C maybe it was a fluke.


But if it isn't--then luckily=2C I only s= pent about $25 on getting 512MB Ultra IIs from Ebay sellers to discover thi= s. But given how scarce these cards are becoming in terms of actually findi= ng them anyplace=2C we are going to be likely be moving to a strictly secon= d hand market sales route soon (like Ebay)=2C once places like the two indu= strial Web site seller sites are out of stock.  =3BAnd in that market= =2C there are no returns. (Not like the "old days" a couple years ago where= some of us were lucky to find retail sellers who would accept returns).


So=2C it would help all of us out in term= s of spending $ on these and not being able to return them if we know the w= hole test has been carried out.


Thanks=2C


David



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KMRUHPTSDLUMXGIVDTEBJMJWIDXYPIKCXWPYSV From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 03:29:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD3153BE7B; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KsnOrHzqLR1XCTbgjsM+1/mYD5sB6aZGq7bEM0QteGw=; b=FXZifZkAgNkYNHSHkmCUYNOmTq3/lqk9zmcbDy6pU7Ah601M27WvV880i+mmcuPJG7 W9Pqte8nZeqTPr+kHq0R8I3m6msppGNLzvBZmunzd87VuFnCfGbjTVdR4ViIItLFnbyv k/isAD/n+SZ0xp3sBPpZohqONZBWCksRIEVmw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=s3M2rTf6gbjJwJTy73WvTuFFp6PDUG3e7e52nQ0Kewe2YyDLWRRghvSEieNZgdE08o t92JeKY8ODEPHW4JfDLGFA99HfH/nudmXkfwt4j/gS7ahELrap+d/tqbYTa9/p1rqPgR 6j81RcP8Qd1f3bh4TV7YPNj+ZsdEjS5HMqsiw= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00807182029ne6a2732j6ad2eb32664c74f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:29:03 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gibson Echoplex In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_61770_16716453.1216438144006" References: Resent-Message-ID: <6XxVg.A.3NH.B-VgIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:29:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_61770_16716453.1216438144006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I sync it to an alesis sr-16, cheap and reliable. On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > I Just Bought A Echoplex Digital Pro Plus and i figured out how to sync to > cubase and that is great for jamming at home by my computer. but how do you > use the echoplex with a drummer live in perfect rythym away from the > computer. Do you Quantize?, or do you have a rack unit that sends a midi > clock signal to the echoplex or what? > ------=_Part_61770_16716453.1216438144006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I sync it to an alesis sr-16, cheap and reliable.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
I Just Bought A Echoplex Digital Pro Plus and i figured out how to sync to cubase and that is great for jamming at home by my computer. but how do you use the echoplex with a drummer live in perfect rythym away from the computer. Do you Quantize?, or do you have a rack unit that sends a midi clock signal to the echoplex or what?

------=_Part_61770_16716453.1216438144006-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 11:28:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67A8C3BE85; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Uu8VKiN5EBHYiOzHAPHoVHv+rCu6jyPFeedWFgzacRV3UKFnHtFONzTU3X4gAq1oHjfOtWm4pxDtraUI9JKoTyfrQP8YtWS9aRqKlpMAxjFjPAzcQYLP+1yZSv8Mdo9ZHobsCdrzwgBZNia0Q7GNvPVMqo9rqrUisO0ykwnA0g4=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:28:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48804644.8080300@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <93397.35276.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:28:28 +0000 (UTC) i had the RCFs for a while but i found them too brilliant for my taste,they also seem to "hiss" quite a bit when you are not playing.Nevertheless they are very nice and they are the smartest designed of all with handles on the sides and top plus great cover bags! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 7/18/08, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 12:29 AM > Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > I love the RCFs, but realistically there is no > "dramatic" difference > > between them, the Mackie's, and JBLs. > > > Personally, when I heard the JBLs was the first time I ever > thought > about getting a pa. I can get "my sound" on good > studio monitors, > and on the JBLs, but not on anything else. > (although the Mackies are acceptable, especially if not too > loud) > > I don't know the RCF's, but I find quite a lot of > difference between the > JBL's and the Mackies. > I prefer the JBL's for the relatively un-colored sound > and find the Mackies > a bit fatiguing to listen to, especially as the volume goes > up. > However, I'm sure there's folks who'd prefer > the "punchy" Mackie sound. > > I'd hazard a guess that the different speakers are > aimed at different > types of music. > > > > > r, so we are really > > starting to spice hairs and get into personal > preference. > > > > Indeed, there's a lot of pa's out there which sound > so much worse than > these ones. (ever been to a London venue? :-) > > > > > ..but then I spice my hair over every other aspect of the > sound too. > (with Dalek Shampoo of course ) > > > andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 16:24:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B80C73BE8E; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:24:23 UTC Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:54:10 -0300 From: Mike Kilburn Subject: endings for live performance To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fzSPclMCjUYeC4MD+EXcAg)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAPeqgUgY10GF/2dsb2JhbACCcqsJ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,215,1215399600"; d="scan'208,217";a="313118106" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:24:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_fzSPclMCjUYeC4MD+EXcAg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hi I’m new at this and have only had my Boss RC-2 for a week but I’m hooked and ‘want more’ and of course the more is more features on a looper. I’m looking especially for a looper that can provide for smooth endings to live performances – one of which would be ‘fade-out’. I believe the RC20 or 50 may do this. Any advice on this topic would be helpful. Mike --Boundary_(ID_fzSPclMCjUYeC4MD+EXcAg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Hi

 

I’m new at this and have only had my Boss RC-2 for a week but I’m hooked and ‘want more’ and of course the more is more features on a looper. I’m looking especially for  a looper that can provide for smooth endings to live performances – one of which would be ‘fade-out’. I believe the RC20 or 50 may do this.

 

Any advice on this topic would be helpful.

 

Mike

--Boundary_(ID_fzSPclMCjUYeC4MD+EXcAg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 17:33:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D2D43BE99; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HXU0gSRClbiLgkFOB8KAXemKLnofKFUdmwsR3SGiuKA=; b=f0l2LGsZaA+g093pVBHvGR8K4Hh1f2JU37kVyk/bvhFL0YN+pdTG+rE2wxh+FoUu4O QlqEVvxHzDruKYFGpA93XIV4b9zmq4qeo56fbnNoC0cMruexHLcrcm+wBtQTk0sxPmRJ S9fCefJAZsXbFsTWHUVQNCYJVrfTFjgpT9vXE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=SQe2d00BM1ivKRav1zZM1436EaGed0Wo4ynVi+BnyBFEB/AxepIPCaAsUpuZeMXQX+ z1K6Px4+jjbe7vZmmVDe2+++n3snbSveCrAhZ/yAq1QckzD3KQkMu4Zbkc7z7R7GVmOK Mo/d3zrTozRBGtnUe/QVr+dgxuln6Q3uFLKrs= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:33:39 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: endings for live performance In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Well, the way I do a fade-out is to have a volume pedal after the looper in the chain. I do jazz, so I've come up with one main trick to do endings. I have two RC-20's that have pre-recorded drums in them, and this goes into an Echoplex. I use the RC-20s strictly to play back drum loops, and the only reason I use 2 is so I will have 22 drum loops available instead of just 11. The same method could be used with only one drum loop playback device. I do a lot of Count Basie type endings like: Chord with bass+drums --> solo riff without bass & drums --> last chord with single bass & drums hit At the beginning I play drums loops out of one of the RC-20s mixed with a bass sound, and record this all into the Echoplex. Then play that back, stop the RC-20, and turn the RC-20's select knob with my foot to its last slot, which contains a one-shot bass drum/cymbal hit for the last note. Then I play through the tune, soloing and playing the out-head. On the last phrase I hit "Mute" on the Echoplex to shut off the recorded bass/drum loop, play the "Count Basie" riff, and then play a last chord while simultaneously hitting Play on the RC-20 to play the last drum hit. That's the way I do it, but it requires one pedal for drum loop playback and another for the actual looping. Maybe you could use some variation of this, I dunno. It took me a long time to figure out any way to end a tune other than fading out with the volume pedal, at least one that would sound like something out of the jazz tradition. It works pretty well. Check out the "Shiny Stockings" mp3 to hear it: http://www.marksmart.net/bands/jazzlooping/jazzlooping.html Here is my setup if you haven't seen it before: http://www.marksmart.net/gearhack/jazzpedalboard/jazzpedalboard.html#V2 Mark Smart On 7/19/08, Mike Kilburn wrote: > Hi > > I'm new at this and have only had my Boss RC-2 for a week but I'm hooked = and > 'want more' and of course the more is more features on a looper. I'm look= ing > especially for a looper that can provide for smooth endings to live > performances =96 one of which would be 'fade-out'. I believe the RC20 or = 50 > may do this. > > Any advice on this topic would be helpful. > > Mike > --=20 Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 17:36:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 296F23BE9E; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008701c8e9c5$f88e3ec0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:36:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <_jvpG.A.s3B.ZYigIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Kris wrote: "I love the RCFs, but realistically there is no "dramatic" difference between them, the Mackie's, and JBLs." I don't know the JBLs but have heard nothing but good things about them, but with the 10" RCFs and the 10" Mackies I've had a lot of gigging experience. The RCFs are rated as going 10 hertz lower than the Mackies and its a pretty dramatic difference to my ears, especially in the realm of kick drums and low frame drums (this, of course, is without the use of subwoofers). I don't know about the 12" RCFs and 12" Mackies, however, having never heard a pair of 12" RCFs but I wanted to render a second opinion to Kris' informed one. Either way, however, with the incredibly cheap price of the Mackies currently and the fact that the USD is so challenged , viz a vis the Euro, (and hence, the RCFs) that the price differntial , alone, makes the Mackies more attractive to a first purchaser. I'm just sayin'. ps, the only thing I've noticed about the RCF's, Mackies and JBLs, though is that in my pretty limited experience of the JBLs (only a couple of times live through other's systems) that the Mackies and RCFs seemed to have more detail with percussion sounds with the JBLs a bit woofier for lack of a better term. This may just be because the the RCF/Mackies have a midrange boost that appeals to my rapidly deteriorating middle aged , rock damaged ears, however. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 18:23:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 373873BE99; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=S3UsJAtyevv1MdfObV3a5+7JnYOyJoWCS0Y++NEn4ROJf8skNvKivcUif+gEpZMOcw1WXyn7XaVvEg2epksLkHtnj4Jngnaz8oLNoxO0QzBxt2NQeFULJxTJSKHejPSVdEUQrZfWqf0f/G1JJnLRmZIVXgc3r7Mi0qedq693ZZ4=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:23:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: Re: Pretec CFCs still available To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2015761685-1216491835=:48197" Message-ID: <973265.48197.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:23:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-2015761685-1216491835=:48197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Fro, Thanks for the clarification and follow up, and sorry to hear one of your Repeaters is sick. Excited to hear more updates on the tests you and Peter are doing as you have them! David --0-2015761685-1216491835=:48197 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Fro,

Thanks for the clarifica= tion and follow up, and sorry to hear one of your Repeaters is sick.=A0

Excited to hear more updates on the tests you and Pet= er are doing as you have them!

David

=0A=0A --0-2015761685-1216491835=:48197-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 18:36:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B10B93BEA0; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Y4hUD8H7EdkNl0Lf1XcA:9 a=TpTL6yXJEVmIWrIVIIYA:9 a=2hw2dL4xLRr24O_qt9RxcyG-62oA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: sooperlooper happiness Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:36:27 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:36:30 +0000 (UTC) I thought I'd report that I performed 3 concerts in a row last night, using multiple instances of SooperLooper inside Ableton Live and was very pleased with the results. Not a single glitch. Hooray! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 19:11:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B11983BEA4; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=v7c4TLyp9hrG5Zjny6hKRqS4b/YCpAjUm5tULTiwW+Y=; b=oX7K/jTAVWlpI2Y6QVnLOKSQ0DimT8ff8FJwu6Xn9tjk0508NlANHWv7L5xoYyxrt+ jA0tr7rCXSbCLgIQnwwzItZoFArqUJsedQ7sB57XQh45iSs+yU2wDF7QzNKk+t0OL2E8 7HSxkvPIIos0g8Yq96JJK3Pkdnges3McVebEA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=V10iruvVPQce3JnQj4ZlkhquyrOQS0m33UABmxhRoGl/smqEZmdQW1OzG1ilwactmz DGy8GhusWXqG33M5pjY7d4rD8WVzWD8uGi9Y1EOh4c7B7gnCbxT7jiHBJ8Z6XEAkJwop ZvX2g3EG+/dE6+Ql23v9GCmKvqGC+3Uq2HoNw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807191211w46699760yfb7a0d51f864f935@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:11:12 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: sooperlooper happiness In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:11:13 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:36 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > I thought I'd report that I performed 3 concerts in a row last night, using > multiple instances of SooperLooper inside Ableton Live and was very pleased > with the results. Not a single glitch. > > Hooray! Good to hear! Are you using SL's GUI to keep track of things? (I'm finding it a bit huge for my MacBook+Logic8). Are you using many Live MIDI clips that send control events into SL? -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 19:22:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D7B53BEB2; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMvFTnmvn Message-ID: <4029bek6JHTrwc.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: sooperlooper happiness Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:22:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807191211w46699760yfb7a0d51f864f935@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Acjp0zZkSSOB6GMYTfGK2WrzE6CkzgAATIxA Resent-Message-ID: <1gSm0B.A.XOE.y7jgIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:22:26 +0000 (UTC) > > very pleased with the results. Not a single glitch. > > > > Hooray! > > > Good to hear! Per, let me ask you as one of the hardcore Mobius users: how are your experiences regarding stability, using the current "recommended beta"? To chime in on that one, the last time I did a big series of live performances with no time in between to fix stuff (back at Y2k6loopfest), Mobius (I think it was an early 1.29 beta) acted up several times, sometimes crashing the computer. On my recent world tour (which more than before makes use of some of the tricky feats of Mobius), not a single problem... Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 19:37:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F375B3BEA0; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/VgBA2i8FIaJwzoT8xf4mucBaTLMAG3fu2UOu2INpb4=; b=BivFySEbjLmqZLwyeaEPhAUuQvt9jmr/bE4BVa7k4Lq3LIG020Ccf+JldSrXUoZ/MJ kuBGfPKYMwrpA8LrP0u3rdHesOb2h8exh+sW7OiQGoWoIHLg9cW2EIQZtxouhCbN4KuQ SiQbWRCKLucE+BcFmV4hN7odos1hNy+FcjvNg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=SmRYq+H7lD+FqRLkjdgKvUxKRj01XMJ7y7xnjQ3NhiVKqV3iQFcC2a0GKAthpRSnXs gdrO+yfE3TihgLdrMJKbnjjIMaU4CNj9iJdo1082eKpDuCIww1VcirnBI+T6bFbEQ729 lxGbHpPGeUX/BQCzRVeTyI5QP8+bYutnA5i0Q= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807191237k5b247779v652f238c582852a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:37:00 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: sooperlooper happiness In-Reply-To: <4029bek6JHTrwc.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0807191211w46699760yfb7a0d51f864f935@mail.gmail.com> <4029bek6JHTrwc.RZmta@mo-p05-ob.rzone.de> Resent-Message-ID: <5pE7W.A.gdE.cJkgIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:37:00 +0000 (UTC) > Per, let me ask you as one of the hardcore Mobius users: how are your > experiences regarding stability, using the current "recommended beta"? Rock steady! I almost never have had any problems with Mobius. I'm using the absolutely latest beta and don't know what version is the "recommended beta". Based on my own experience I think that any one that has stability problems when performing with Mobius should start troubleshooting his rig outside Mobius ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 20:05:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FFE03BEA6; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Idi-UrjlBz9t9lXA1H8A:9 a=pe77Gm2wSmUIq8bcX4UA:9 a=RdV8d5bReM95D6bb6BwA:7 a=XKW73mUZusUrjsLqGVKejmzsd5YA:4 a=NVHxADLwyewA:10 a=by2dKgXnggYA:10 a=lkTZswydCgsWjQl5duYA:9 a=c6SqczlvRxvVvxfoeakA:7 a=YgKB3GgqGD0y4-D_8W5gRnRvB8oA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807191211w46699760yfb7a0d51f864f935@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0807191211w46699760yfb7a0d51f864f935@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--179970016 Message-Id: <9B89AC1C-90AE-4465-8109-7986D807C12E@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: sooperlooper happiness Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:05:14 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:05:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--179970016 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed hello per! it is large, i agree. i would like a "mini" version since 4 stacked sooperloopers take up a lot of room! i actually didn't open the GUI at all, just had it in the background. the SL GUI doesn't launch automatically when you open a Live set. i'm sure i can do it with a script, but didn't get around to that yet. as a result, i could not see a thing that was going on! i did a combination of launching MIDI clips inside Live, and old fashioned foot control. there was one "glitch" where SL didn't seem to receive MIDI commands when i first opened a set (i tend to perform 2 pieces using one Live set and might launch 4 or more sets per performance, using MIDI + Applescript). i had to manually click on "launch GUI". but once it was launched i closed it again because i didn't like it blocking my view of the audio channels (i like to catch if anything goes into the red). i still need more practice executing perfect loops. the Repeaters are so forgiving! sigh... my best from california, zoe On Jul 19, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:36 PM, info at zoekeating > wrote: >> I thought I'd report that I performed 3 concerts in a row last >> night, using >> multiple instances of SooperLooper inside Ableton Live and was >> very pleased >> with the results. Not a single glitch. >> >> Hooray! > > > Good to hear! > > Are you using SL's GUI to keep track of things? (I'm finding it a bit > huge for my MacBook+Logic8). > Are you using many Live MIDI clips that send control events into SL? > > -- --Apple-Mail-3--179970016 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 hello per!

it is large, i agree. i would like a = "mini" version since 4 stacked sooperloopers take up a lot of room! i = actually didn't open the GUI at all, just had it in the background. the = SL GUI doesn't launch automatically when you open a Live set. i'm sure i = can do it with a script, but didn't get around to that yet. as a result, = i could not see a thing that was going on!

i = did a combination of launching MIDI clips inside Live, and old fashioned = foot control.

there was one "glitch" where SL = didn't seem to receive MIDI commands when i first opened a set (i tend = to perform 2 pieces using one Live set and might launch 4 or more sets = per performance, using MIDI + Applescript). i had to manually click on = "launch GUI". but once it was launched i closed it again because i = didn't like it blocking my view of the audio channels (i like to catch = if anything goes into the red).

i still need = more practice executing perfect loops. the Repeaters are so forgiving! = sigh...

my best from california, = zoe



On Jul 19, = 2008, at 12:11 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at = 8:36 PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> = wrote:

I thought I'd report that I performed 3 concerts = in a row last night, using

multiple instances of SooperLooper inside Ableton = Live and was very pleased

with the results. Not a single glitch.

=


Hooray!



Good to hear!


Are you using SL's GUI to keep track of things? (I'm = finding it a bit

huge for my MacBook+Logic8).

Are you using many Live MIDI clips = that send control events into SL?


--=A0

=

= --Apple-Mail-3--179970016-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 21:56:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6E3C3BEA6; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002001c8e9ea$78163700$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: Subject: Re: endings for live performance Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:57:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8E9FB.3A5AC730" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19MBnVVifV2YcZEoIVu3Y/4NDmEXzbzoAYjtYX yD9j3GErcM+PyHSaE3+s+Zirpe6NIAvP1LSfnder8tVeWpWfbV TQTLXgyuRNT5U91MvkDE6b06lU/Uat7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:56:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8E9FB.3A5AC730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...you can fade the rc-2 by rubbing your shoe gently against the side of = the "phrase" control. voila: fade out of the loop...rubber soles recommended. tilmann ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Kilburn=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 5:54 PM Subject: endings for live performance Hi=20 =20 I'm new at this and have only had my Boss RC-2 for a week but I'm = hooked and 'want more' and of course the more is more features on a = looper. I'm looking especially for a looper that can provide for smooth = endings to live performances - one of which would be 'fade-out'. I = believe the RC20 or 50 may do this.=20 =20 Any advice on this topic would be helpful.=20 =20 Mike=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8E9FB.3A5AC730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...you can fade the rc-2 by rubbing = your shoe=20 gently against the side of the "phrase" control.
voila: fade out of the loop...rubber = soles=20 recommended.
 
 
tilmann
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mike=20 Kilburn
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 = 5:54=20 PM
Subject: endings for live=20 performance

Hi=20

 

I=92m=20 new at this and have only had my Boss RC-2 for a week but I=92m hooked = and =91want=20 more=92 and of course the more is more features on a looper. I=92m = looking=20 especially for  a looper = that can=20 provide for smooth endings to live performances =96 one of which would = be=20 =91fade-out=92. I believe the RC20 or 50 may do this.=20

 

Any=20 advice on this topic would be helpful. =

 

Mike=20

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C8E9FB.3A5AC730-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 22:03:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F3A83BEB2; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:03:34 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <9B89AC1C-90AE-4465-8109-7986D807C12E@zoekeating.com> Message-ID: <20080719220334.266150@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0807191211w46699760yfb7a0d51f864f935@mail.gmail.com> <9B89AC1C-90AE-4465-8109-7986D807C12E@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: sooperlooper happiness To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18JYoRPjQQJ2mtbp9GRjSHiCX6ek6CMMuKJzbAzAs iL/5D/WbLTmLNE+Ot2spiGbYxnr2jM7wktZw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: 1wjpIL4yTlI8dcF+jGlrzNZOU2poZRlU Resent-Message-ID: <3KEqH.A.7HH.5SmgIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Hi Zoe this is really great to hear, thank you. :) I've played around with several SooperLoopers + Ableton Live recently. Do your multiple loops interact with each other in a way? i..e do they run in parallel with sync or do you use something like "next loop" (multiple scenes in Live or "mute" in SL)? Best regards Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 22:14:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 926243BEAE; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:14:20 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <20080719221420.266180@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen><20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Tqy12SzVTFy/TeFHIS/F7WO2+j0Q3qwZ5KMkYkc HHq7YH/6IYyCPCtIGWU6jcKryCphKeuT3C/Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: UxLre7cpeWUkfdt9km5nAuojL0tsZs1B Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi all > I love the RCFs, but realistically there is no "dramatic" difference > between > them, the Mackie's, and JBLs. Well, you really have to do an A/B test with your typical music and decide for yourself. I had tested several boxes where I thought "hey, they sound decent". But in direct comparison to RCF (or FBT btw!), they could make you cry. Now, there may not be much difference with the bigger boxes. But if you want to optimize size/weight and opt for 10" speakers as "full range" alternative, then there will be HUGE difference in the bass sound. That's where I'm saying: take the RCFs or FBT Maxx 2A (http://www.fbtusa.com/6928.html) - and nothing else. Depending on your music style, 10" as "full range" alternative is already very challenging. With anything else this is imho unrealistic. best regards Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 22:17:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5183BEA6; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=DoYQrRpSR2aNnItgwY0A:9 a=GE_SLMq4XqoVjT7dZKIA:9 a=_4bg5iDfvTTvUgeQTy8A:7 a=bDObB1T5MIu0ASzUr6wpf3EcUmQA:4 a=by2dKgXnggYA:10 a=T88m-kG9le-bSzoILDwA:9 a=-wmTkZOTe7uC2lFsKPoA:9 a=DaDnueQVbhcP9Hszob0A:7 a=gWcCzNlrPVLt7Dwnzzrqqmw_CroA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 In-Reply-To: <20080719220334.266150@gmx.net> References: <66f9cc1e0807191211w46699760yfb7a0d51f864f935@mail.gmail.com> <9B89AC1C-90AE-4465-8109-7986D807C12E@zoekeating.com> <20080719220334.266150@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--172037831 Message-Id: From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: sooperlooper happiness Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:17:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:17:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--172037831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed hey there, yes and no. the loops are synced to Live's clock. but that is the only interaction between them. i have each loop output to on its own track in Live. last night i used "mute" in SL for each one, but i guess could instead mute the respective track. i find it odd that SL doesn't stop when Live stops. i haven't looked if there is a "mute all" command. if so, i could send that when i send the stop to Live. On Jul 19, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Zoe > > this is really great to hear, thank you. :) > > I've played around with several SooperLoopers + Ableton Live recently. > Do your multiple loops interact with each other in a way? i..e do > they run in parallel with sync or do you use something like "next > loop" (multiple scenes in Live or "mute" in SL)? > > Best regards > Buzap --Apple-Mail-4--172037831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 hey there,=A0
yes and no.=A0
the loops are synced to = Live's clock. but that is the only interaction between them.
i = have each loop output to on its own track in Live.
last night = i used "mute" in SL for each one, but i guess could instead mute the = respective track.

i find it odd that SL doesn't = stop when Live stops. i haven't looked if there is a "mute all" command. = if so, i could send that when i send the stop to = Live.

On Jul 19, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Buzap = Buzap wrote:

Hi Zoe


this is really great to = hear, thank you. :)


I've played around with = several SooperLoopers + Ableton Live recently.

Do your multiple loops = interact with each other in a way? i..e do they run in parallel with = sync or do you use something like "next loop" (multiple scenes in Live = or "mute" in SL)?


Best regards

=

Buzap

=

= --Apple-Mail-4--172037831-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 22:27:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 823B23BEBE; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:27:07 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <002001c8e9ea$78163700$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> Message-ID: <20080719222707.266160@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <002001c8e9ea$78163700$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> Subject: Re: endings for live performance To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18LXHIIlpcLEKBo8WBrgLadd9XibhZbtSaoAbo5aw buBI+pGR7slsQL7FW1qCi4HDH2+0B78I2x7w== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: A1ixfJIuX1V6LZ12l2By9r5/SDc4NMwO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark with the RC-50 you can define for each of the three loops (PHRASEs), if you want to fade out. You can also specify fade-out time. However, personally I have connected an expression pedal to the RC-50 that works as a volume pedal for the current Phrase. So I fade out basically via Volume pedal. Another nice trick: Use an effect pedal with a lot of echo/delay/reverb at the end. This way, your sound won't stop suddenly but with a nice effect. I assume you know that you can connect a stop pedal to the RC-2? Normally, I can stop it quite well with the "double stop". But what we did tonight was to keep on playing a riff on mandoline + harmonica after the loop stopped. In fact, tonight is the first time ever that I've used the RC-2 + external stop pedal in a live session :-)) regards Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 22:33:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 688823BEC4; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:33:45 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080719223345.266160@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0807191211w46699760yfb7a0d51f864f935@mail.gmail.com> <9B89AC1C-90AE-4465-8109-7986D807C12E@zoekeating.com> <20080719220334.266150@gmx.net> Subject: Re: sooperlooper happiness To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Gj1Ut/PiG099W6TIz4gmqtPAb4kkGVq2KWvmmpb SA4oaSyllnrvrkzA5NAiIwzyWRitBEDy9+kA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: hh7jLJEGa0A7ech0jjAzE70/Njh6dM53 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi Zoe wow, that was a fast answer :-) > i find it odd that SL doesn't stop when Live stops. i haven't looked > if there is a "mute all" command Instead of a "mute all", couldn't you just send all the SL outputs to a SubGroup inside of Live? Then, at the end, you could simply mute just that one track. Also, I wonder if switching tracks in SL via "mute" works well with loops of different length. I guess you'd need a script like "retrigger this loop and mute all other"...? best regards Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 19 23:31:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F044C3BEC0; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:31:07 EDT Subject: more loops than allowed by law To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bf8.34d92e85.35b3d33b_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:31:16 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bf8.34d92e85.35b3d33b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wow!.....what a fun gig with daryl shawn last nite.....PILL 1 .....PITTSBURGH INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING 1.....not a midi to be seen!.....it was great fun and a wonderful learning experience to watch, listen and react to what daryl was doing with his "CASSETTE PLAYERS".....fantastic!.....the audient (TM) was converted to the wild and wacky life of LIVE LOOPING.....daryl spent the nite and we talked to the wee small hours about all you karzy LD people and how you have changed our lives for the "better".....good clean fun!.....i used my BIG ROOM KIT and only had one tiny gremlin, for some reason, set up was painless and everything worked right off the bat the only "thing" to missbehave was the controller pedal for the zoom 2100.....daryl helped shlepp the kit to my third floor "stuido" this morn and rather than wait for several months to set it all up again i went at it like a mad man!.....90 degrees, sweat pouring off of me....."WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS GO TOO?????"......yikes!!!!!.....i'm too old for this!.....but, presto bongo i hit the BIG ON BUTTON and everything works, at least in accordence with this weeks set-up.....joy oh joy!.....it's a shame that 99.9% of our audience went to see the "BATDUDE" movie last nite....:)......but it was an inspirational gas none the less.....it's great too see lots of good loop activity going on, krispen converting the masses, the walker bros and all the euro-loop-kindern looping out for the past few months, shows galore being mentioned on LD. every day.....you can't turn your head without smackin' into a loop.....this is good!.....michael "one man, one oat!" 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(http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) --part1_bf8.34d92e85.35b3d33b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow!.....what a fun gig with daryl shaw= n last nite.....PILL 1 .....PITTSBURGH INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING 1.....not=20= a midi to be seen!.....it was great fun and a wonderful learning experience=20= to watch, listen and react to what daryl  was doing with his "CASSETTE=20= PLAYERS".....fantastic!.....the audient (TM) was converted to the wild and w= acky life of LIVE LOOPING.....daryl spent the nite and we talked to the wee=20= small hours about all you karzy LD people and how you have changed our lives= for the "better".....good clean fun!.....i used my BIG ROOM KIT and only ha= d one tiny gremlin, for some reason, set up was painless and everything work= ed right off the bat the only "thing" to missbehave was the controller pedal= for the zoom 2100.....daryl helped shlepp the kit to my third floor "stuido= "  this morn and rather than wait for several months to set it all up=20= again i went at it like a mad man!.....90 degrees, sweat pouring off of me..= ..."WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS GO TOO?????"......yikes!!!!!.....i'm too old for= this!.....but, presto bongo i hit the BIG ON BUTTON and everything works, a= t least in accordence with this weeks set-up.....joy oh joy!.....it's a sham= e that 99.9% of our audience went to see the "BATDUDE" movie last nite....:)= ......but it was an inspirational gas none the less.....it's great too see l= ots of good loop activity going on, krispen converting the masses, the walke= r bros and all the euro-loop-kindern looping out for the past few months,&nb= sp; shows galore being mentioned on LD. every day.....you can't turn your h= ead without smackin' into a loop.....this is good!.....michael



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It would be easy to add an option to pause/mute the loops when the host transport stops (when synced to host only). That, along with triggering when it starts again, or should that be yet another option? I didn't implement any of the above because I didn't have a good useful model to follow. Let's continue discussion on the SL list. 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--Boundary_(ID_WvQ13USALV8EiC7NmI+5oQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 01:36:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2657D3BEB6; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMulMm22Ntg== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: more loops than allowed by law Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:36:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8EA19.DC1BF1C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acjp94qBkLCWvFMCSN+Je29p2at3EQAD3+1Q Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:36:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8EA19.DC1BF1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael, nice to read that you had such great fun with Daryl...and also, nice to read that you're still playing gigs to get people into our strange religion. Daryl actually was part (and I really need to restate that here) of the best kybermusik (read: my series of internet collaborations) session ever, right during this year's BEMF, together with Brian Good, Brian McFaddin and our own Krispen Hartung (this is in no way meant to diss any other player's performance, including my own great set with Michael Bearpark, Per Boysen and Jarred Hallock, but hey, everybody picks his (or her) winner). Summarizing, I hope (or rather strongly believe) taht you're not getting to old for this and should continue to do that crazy stuff for lots of decades to come with lots of great players who might not even be born today. Rainer _____ Von: Nemoguitt@aol.com [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Juli 2008 01:31 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: more loops than allowed by law wow!.....what a fun gig with daryl shawn last nite.....PILL 1 .....PITTSBURGH INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING 1.....not a midi to be seen!.....it was great fun and a wonderful learning experience to watch, listen and react to what daryl was doing with his "CASSETTE PLAYERS".....fantastic!.....the audient (TM) was converted to the wild and wacky life of LIVE LOOPING.....daryl spent the nite and we talked to the wee small hours about all you karzy LD people and how you have changed our lives for the "better".....good clean fun!.....i used my BIG ROOM KIT and only had one tiny gremlin, for some reason, set up was painless and everything worked right off the bat the only "thing" to missbehave was the controller pedal for the zoom 2100.....daryl helped shlepp the kit to my third floor "stuido" this morn and rather than wait for several months to set it all up again i went at it like a mad man!.....90 degrees, sweat pouring off of me....."WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS GO TOO?????"......yikes!!!!!.....i'm too old for this!.....but, presto bongo i hit the BIG ON BUTTON and everything works, at least in accordence with this weeks set-up.....joy oh joy!.....it's a shame that 99.9% of our audience went to see the "BATDUDE" movie last nite....:)......but it was an inspirational gas none the less.....it's great too see lots of good loop activity going on, krispen converting the masses, the walker bros and all the euro-loop-kindern looping out for the past few months, shows galore being mentioned on LD. every day.....you can't turn your head without smackin' into a loop.....this is good!.....michael "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8EA19.DC1BF1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Michael,
 
nice to read that you had such great fun with = Daryl...and also, nice to read that you're still playing gigs to get = people into=20 our strange religion.
Daryl actually was part (and I really need to = restate=20 that here) of the best kybermusik (read: my series of internet = collaborations)=20 session ever, right during this year's BEMF, together with Brian Good, = Brian=20 McFaddin and our own Krispen Hartung (this is in no way meant to diss = any other=20 player's performance, including my own great set with Michael Bearpark, = Per=20 Boysen and Jarred Hallock, but hey, everybody picks his (or her)=20 winner).
 
Summarizing, I hope (or rather strongly = believe) taht=20 you're not getting to old for this and should continue to do that crazy = stuff=20 for lots of decades to come with lots of great players who might not = even be=20 born today.
 
       &nbs= p;   =20 Rainer
 

Von: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Juli 2008 = 01:31
An: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff:=20 more loops than allowed by law

wow!.....what a fun gig with daryl shawn last = nite.....PILL=20 1 .....PITTSBURGH INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING 1.....not a midi to be=20 seen!.....it was great fun and a wonderful learning experience to = watch,=20 listen and react to what daryl  was doing with his "CASSETTE=20 PLAYERS".....fantastic!.....the audient (TM) was converted to the wild = and=20 wacky life of LIVE LOOPING.....daryl spent the nite and we talked to = the wee=20 small hours about all you karzy LD people and how you have changed our = lives=20 for the "better".....good clean fun!.....i used my BIG ROOM KIT and = only had=20 one tiny gremlin, for some reason, set up was painless and everything = worked=20 right off the bat the only "thing" to missbehave was the controller = pedal for=20 the zoom 2100.....daryl helped shlepp the kit to my third floor = "stuido" =20 this morn and rather than wait for several months to set it all up = again i=20 went at it like a mad man!.....90 degrees, sweat pouring off of = me....."WHAT=20 THE HELL DOES THIS GO TOO?????"......yikes!!!!!.....i'm too old for=20 this!.....but, presto bongo i hit the BIG ON BUTTON and everything = works, at=20 least in accordence with this weeks set-up.....joy oh joy!.....it's a = shame=20 that 99.9% of our audience went to see the "BATDUDE" movie last=20 nite....:)......but it was an inspirational gas none the less.....it's = great=20 too see lots of good loop activity going on, krispen converting the = masses,=20 the walker bros and all the euro-loop-kindern looping out for the past = few=20 months,  shows galore being mentioned on LD. every day.....you = can't turn=20 your head without smackin' into a loop.....this is=20 good!.....michael



"one man, one oat!" OAT = WILLY

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http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collective.com




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(http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=3Daolspr00050000000= 020)=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C8EA19.DC1BF1C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 02:28:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 381823BE9E; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:28:17 EDT Subject: Re: AW: more loops than allowed by law To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bc5.2b212499.35b3fcc1_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:28:22 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bc5.2b212499.35b3fcc1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/19/08 9:37:16 PM, rs@moinlabs.de writes: > I hope (or rather strongly believe) taht you're not getting to old for this > and should continue to do that crazy stuff for lots of decades to come > they won't get my rang unless they drag it from my cold dead hands.....:).....or perhaps that's feet!.....thanks rainer, i will attempt to comply!......:)m "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) --part1_bc5.2b212499.35b3fcc1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 7/19/08 9:37:16 PM, rs@moinlabs.de writes:


I hope (or rather str= ongly believe) taht you're not getting to old for this and should continue t= o do that crazy stuff for lots of decades to come


they won't get my rang unless they drag it from my cold dead hands.....:)= .....or perhaps that's feet!.....thanks rainer, i will attempt to comply!...= ...:)m



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(http://www.f= anhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=3Daolspr00050000000020) --part1_bc5.2b212499.35b3fcc1_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 04:24:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 581153BEA0; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:24:20 UTC Message-ID: <20080719211727.chyrcpffeooo8ogo@webmail.mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:17:27 -0700 From: highhorse@mhorse.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: more loops than allowed by law References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:24:21 +0000 (UTC) PILL was on! Audient...hee hee hee. I need to give Sr. Klobuchar full =20 credit for finding a lovely venue - perfect for our music - and =20 putting it all together (including dragging his SRM450's out and =20 having 'em set up before I arrived). All of you need to see Michael with his full setup, the man is the =20 master of his own domain and half of the set for me was spent glancing =20 sideways in wonderment. And since his full setup doesn't take planes, =20 well, there just has to be another PILL (or other East Coast =20 equivalent). It's so great to meet and play with people from this =20 list, really looking forward to meeting up a couple of weeks in Boston =20 with Dennis Moser, and Jim Goodin next weekend. I was sad it didn't =20 work out to meet Brian Good or Steven Guerrero due to circumstances =20 beyond their control, again all the more reason to put an east coast =20 fest together. It was a highlight of my tour! (now 23 shows in...). Thanks again MK =20 for the organization, the crash pad, the playing and especially the =20 hangin'. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > wow!.....what a fun gig with daryl shawn last nite.....PILL 1 .....PITTSBU= RGH > INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING 1.....not a midi to be seen!.....it was great f= un > and a wonderful learning experience to watch, listen and react to what dar= yl > was doing with his "CASSETTE PLAYERS".....fantastic!.....the audient (TM) = was > converted to the wild and wacky life of LIVE LOOPING.....daryl spent the n= ite > and we talked to the wee small hours about all you karzy LD people =20 > and how you > have changed our lives for the "better".....good clean fun!.....i used my = BIG > ROOM KIT and only had one tiny gremlin, for some reason, set up was painle= ss > and everything worked right off the bat the only "thing" to =20 > missbehave was the > controller pedal for the zoom 2100.....daryl helped shlepp the kit to my > third floor "stuido" this morn and rather than wait for several =20 > months to set it > all up again i went at it like a mad man!.....90 degrees, sweat pouring of= f > of me....."WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS GO =20 > TOO?????"......yikes!!!!!.....i'm too old > for this!.....but, presto bongo i hit the BIG ON BUTTON and everything wor= ks, > at least in accordence with this weeks set-up.....joy oh joy!.....it's a > shame that 99.9% of our audience went to see the "BATDUDE" movie last > nite....:)......but it was an inspirational gas none the =20 > less.....it's great too see lots > of good loop activity going on, krispen converting the masses, the =20 > walker bros > and all the euro-loop-kindern looping out for the past few months, shows > galore being mentioned on LD. every day.....you can't turn your head witho= ut > smackin' into a loop.....this is good!.....michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 04:54:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 063983BEA6; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080719215400.zzzordhq80k40k40@webmail.mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:54:00 -0700 From: highhorse@mhorse.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: more loops than allowed by law References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:54:13 +0000 (UTC) I forgot to add that tomorrow (sunday) I'll be meeting and playing with "our" Ted Harms (aka ditch wrestler) in Toronto. Gonna be great, with dancers, and probably locals Mimo joining us for a tune too. I feel very lucky to be meeting and playing with so many people this tour...it's the best. and Rainer, thanks for the nice words on the BEMF set. I sure loved being part of it. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 05:24:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B12923BEA9; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5NAtw0oco22lOn_--DIA:9 a=0QYwrDy-EzgT-m_DKEgA:9 a=zwwJ3Z4ag4fmy3_dzOmMaoui08sA:4 a=w2JVS3UYN8sA:10 a=9HH9e6qH9t08oXcteZEA:9 a=HiNP9gL4kcx99yym8VeB0KZDJBMA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 In-Reply-To: <20080719223345.266160@gmx.net> References: <66f9cc1e0807191211w46699760yfb7a0d51f864f935@mail.gmail.com> <9B89AC1C-90AE-4465-8109-7986D807C12E@zoekeating.com> <20080719220334.266150@gmx.net> <20080719223345.266160@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--146409019 Message-Id: From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: sooperlooper happiness Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:24:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:24:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--146409019 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed hm. well i WANT them all on separate tracks and i usually have 4+ loops going on at once. so mute works pretty well because i only mute 1 at a time. its all working pretty well! On Jul 19, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > wow, that was a fast answer :-) > >> i find it odd that SL doesn't stop when Live stops. i haven't looked >> if there is a "mute all" command > Instead of a "mute all", couldn't you just send all the SL outputs > to a SubGroup inside of Live? Then, at the end, you could simply > mute just that one track. > > Also, I wonder if switching tracks in SL via "mute" works well with > loops of different length. I guess you'd need a script like > "retrigger this loop and mute all other"...? > > best regards --Apple-Mail-5--146409019 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 hm. well i WANT them all on separate tracks and i usually have 4+ loops = going on at once. so mute works pretty well because i only mute 1 at a = time. its all working pretty well!


On Jul 19, = 2008, at 3:33 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote:

wow, that was a fast = answer :-)


i = find it odd that SL doesn't stop when Live stops. i haven't looked =A0

if there is a "mute all" = command

Instead of a "mute all", couldn't you just send all the = SL outputs to a SubGroup inside of Live? Then, at the end, you could = simply mute just that one track.


Also, I wonder if switching tracks in SL via "mute" works well = with loops of different length. I guess you'd need a script like = "retrigger this loop and mute all other"...?


best regards

=

= --Apple-Mail-5--146409019-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 05:26:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91EE13BEBA; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kLQqkXgnABklNwBq19EA:9 a=kTWcKicWyVhediMOxCgA:9 a=CwD0s_vSy6ewK1fKdNYDlzJiEAwA:4 a=SOpWpe-P8L8A:10 a=ZZSXuA1Xet1XhxUCL_MA:9 a=vc2k-9ZriXW2XM94N1P5uJmhIl0A:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0807191211w46699760yfb7a0d51f864f935@mail.gmail.com> <9B89AC1C-90AE-4465-8109-7986D807C12E@zoekeating.com> <20080719220334.266150@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--146314173 Message-Id: <94252A35-6BCD-40DE-85A3-D08EBC11F54A@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: sooperlooper happiness Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:26:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:26:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--146314173 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed ah ha! genius. thanks jesse for your attentiveness and for making such a rad looping tool. On Jul 19, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Jesse Chappell wrote: > As for mute-all, you just make a binding to Mute with the loop # > set to All. --Apple-Mail-6--146314173 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII ah ha! genius. thanks jesse for your attentiveness and for making such a rad looping tool.

On Jul 19, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Jesse Chappell wrote:

As for mute-all, you just make a binding to Mute with the loop # set to All.


--Apple-Mail-6--146314173-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 13:34:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E94513BEA2; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:35:03 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: OT: Here's what I want to do... what do I need? In-reply-to: <8854988.1216448533824.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48833F07.5080304@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <8854988.1216448533824.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Tony K wrote: > >I know my computer can do all this... I just don't trust it!! > Why not? I'm just curious. I hear this a lot in this group and in > some others. Is it just because of 'bad press' ?? Or bad experience? > I used to do a lot of process control programming and we used PCs > quite a bit. We didn't have issues with crashing any more than any > other piece of equipment. Stuff fails, but heck, I've had strings > break, batteries die, cables go bad, tubes blow out... Why is it that > people think a PC/Mac crash/failure any more likely than any other > hardware failure? Hi Tony, I guess it depends upon how much of the sound depends upon the computer. Just like strings, batteries, cables, and the like, if the computer is responsible for a small portion of your show, then a crash isn't catastrophic and you can continue making sound and entertaining without it or, if you're a multitasker, while you reboot. But if all of your sound sources go directly to the computer where they are processed and mixed and sent out to the PA, a crash becomes catastrophic. Now the question becomes, how stable is any computer. I've seen the most stable of computers go TU because of the local power grid being unstable. Last minute programming can find that one bug or combination of programs that are incompatible. While John 3 and I were Metlay's cohorts for Mind3Spiral , Chainer blew up in the middle of the planetarium gig, spewing lots of high volume hash. John calmly rebooted while Mike and I soldiered on. Months later, John reported that he found out how to make all of his software play nice in Vista. The list is endless. That being said, I'm the keys playing bass player in Pinnacle and 100% of my synth sounds plus the samples triggered by Greg our drummer are generated by my laptop. (We use drum pads, Roland PK-5 pedals, and an Alesis synth as controllers.) While I've had problems setting up once in a while, once things got going, all has gone well at shows. However, when I'm playing with Xeroid Entity , for some reason everything goes wonky during almost every show. One year at electro-music , I spent every spare moment rebooting and telling software where to find the audio interface to no avail until the show was 98% over. Thank goodness for my Nord Modular G2, guitar, slide guitar, and Boss effect pedal going through a mixer. It's the same laptop and M-Audio 410 interface in both cases. As far as I'm concerned, I'll continue to depend upon my laptop. I'm even considering using Guitar Rig 3 instead of the Boss pedal and mixing within the computer. That will be living dangerously! Pinnacle will be playing at ProgDay on Labor Day Weekend and two weeks later opening for Riverside at a NJ Proghouse concert. Wish me luck. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 13:37:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5858D3BEA9; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:37:29 -0300 From: Mike Kilburn Subject: RE: endings for live performance In-reply-to: <20080719222707.266160@gmx.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAJfcgkgY10GF/2dsb2JhbACtMQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,218,1215399600"; d="scan'208";a="275631545" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Busap After some working at it my stops/endings with the RC-2 are getting smoother just ending on the first beat of the bar and playing that final guitar chord letting it sustain. Having a ending lick leading to that final chord is also sounding much more 'natural'. Thanks to all for the advice on this one. I figure using the basic RC2 and coming up with ways of compensating for its limitations is inspiring some creativity - like 'necessity the mother of invention'. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Buzap Buzap [mailto:buzap@gmx.net] Sent: July 19, 2008 7:27 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: endings for live performance Hi Mark with the RC-50 you can define for each of the three loops (PHRASEs), if you want to fade out. You can also specify fade-out time. However, personally I have connected an expression pedal to the RC-50 that works as a volume pedal for the current Phrase. So I fade out basically via Volume pedal. Another nice trick: Use an effect pedal with a lot of echo/delay/reverb at the end. This way, your sound won't stop suddenly but with a nice effect. I assume you know that you can connect a stop pedal to the RC-2? Normally, I can stop it quite well with the "double stop". But what we did tonight was to keep on playing a riff on mandoline + harmonica after the loop stopped. In fact, tonight is the first time ever that I've used the RC-2 + external stop pedal in a live session :-)) regards Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.2/1562 - Release Date: 7/19/2008 2:01 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 18:17:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD42D3BEA0; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RNoSEOVNxXeZIozbWtAA:9 a=2KqJEhws5yztiTeBZEsA:9 a=bSe4IPSxLIWJ6y2atoHrpNrSwzcA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: delia derbyshire video Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:17:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:17:39 +0000 (UTC) I grew up with a television series called Dr Who (the Tom Baker and Peter Davison era, for those of you who know it). The theme song is a pretty cool piece of electronic music and its totally lasted through the decades (written in 1963!). I knew nothing about the musician who "realized" the theme. I knew it was composed in 1963 by Ron Grainer, but apparently it was "realized" by Delia Derbyshire. There is a clip on youtube showing her looping with tape machines which I though you would appreciate. Video clip from a BBC doc about Delia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDX_CS3NsTk Here's the Dr Who theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKg9tuSbXmk I can't believe I never heard of her because she was amazing...maybe because she retired from composing in the 70's? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 18:56:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 988693BEA0; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=RIFU7sppwc2krDGU2R21AqLhMnTNdPw35uTHXHqVp2w=; b=lHhRPWa7+6WyDJiNSgFU81ZCzAtrfecTuMSj5OnJ6U8j1J9KPUSKI8WazBaKSad+U+ xtFfKtTAL3BquSJXscUJKfrM3NkUGf9rh5Fq2UusNFQiRzKW5wsuHE1UcFERCdq01GNP QZF8yJ98g5UbnEBYv3SH5k9dAUFcYVetqcrfs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bWHLep9t9jUUYu4HuLlXj6XCeiR/VbPxIyO9y9SGx0zMj5rdTPl/8mIdGTGL68va5/ nl3Vs94g9wfflxydvoSt0Txd7C2fcyCW1Qagj8bAyACAOkGc5LYGoQFcJcRYRMZ52wLP ZArWJNL806F+n+RVIBs8lR1NNMTVcNnQEm4ec= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:56:18 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video In-Reply-To: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_62955_8339509.1216580178937" References: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:56:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_62955_8339509.1216580178937 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline There was a really good article on DD in Mojo a few years back, worth seeking out. I seem to recall a very low glass ceiling there at the Beeb. On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:17 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: > I grew up with a television series called Dr Who (the Tom Baker and Peter > Davison era, for those of you who know it). The theme song is a pretty cool > piece of electronic music and its totally lasted through the decades > (written in 1963!). I knew nothing about the musician who "realized" the > theme. I knew it was composed in 1963 by Ron Grainer, but apparently it was > "realized" by Delia Derbyshire. > > There is a clip on youtube showing her looping with tape machines which I > though you would appreciate. > > Video clip from a BBC doc about Delia: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDX_CS3NsTk > > Here's the Dr Who theme: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKg9tuSbXmk > > I can't believe I never heard of her because she was amazing...maybe > because she retired from composing in the 70's? > > > ------=_Part_62955_8339509.1216580178937 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
There was a really good article on DD in Mojo a few years back, worth seeking out.  I seem to recall a very low glass ceiling there at the Beeb.

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:17 AM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
I grew up with a television series called Dr Who (the Tom Baker and Peter Davison era, for those of you who know it). The theme song is a pretty cool piece of electronic music and its totally lasted through the decades (written in 1963!). I knew nothing about the musician who "realized" the theme. I knew it was composed in 1963 by Ron Grainer, but apparently it was "realized" by Delia Derbyshire.

There is a clip on youtube showing her looping with tape machines which I though you would appreciate.

Video clip from a BBC doc about Delia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDX_CS3NsTk

Here's the Dr Who theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKg9tuSbXmk

I can't believe I never heard of her because she was amazing...maybe because she retired from composing in the 70's?



------=_Part_62955_8339509.1216580178937-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 18:59:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D18AF3BE99; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aSRvjw2BAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=aEF75-ckNlsp5c_EtCUA:9 a=riAGPqZBQnFzH9W8WpgA:9 a=m28FL1OVsX-sd3283lQH5a2emYMA:4 a=NVHxADLwyewA:10 a=kwz2ALlf93kA:10 a=ShMY1Lup7jivpX4uXLwA:9 a=qkKtoEHCSEQSxpSE3vIA:7 a=ic78FBZZjRogJLP5XUCNF0YTdBwA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--97515846 Message-Id: <9CF85ADB-CC85-4882-931A-90E6ECF38BD5@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:59:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:59:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--97515846 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed and listen to this, from 1969!!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7512490.stm On Jul 20, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > There was a really good article on DD in Mojo a few years back, > worth seeking out. I seem to recall a very low glass ceiling there > at the Beeb. > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:17 AM, info at zoekeating > wrote: > I grew up with a television series called Dr Who (the Tom Baker and > Peter Davison era, for those of you who know it). The theme song is > a pretty cool piece of electronic music and its totally lasted > through the decades (written in 1963!). I knew nothing about the > musician who "realized" the theme. I knew it was composed in 1963 > by Ron Grainer, but apparently it was "realized" by Delia Derbyshire. > > There is a clip on youtube showing her looping with tape machines > which I though you would appreciate. > > Video clip from a BBC doc about Delia: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDX_CS3NsTk > > Here's the Dr Who theme: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKg9tuSbXmk > > I can't believe I never heard of her because she was > amazing...maybe because she retired from composing in the 70's? > > > --Apple-Mail-1--97515846 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 and listen to this, from 1969!!!!



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On Jul 20, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Travis Hartnett = wrote:

There was a really good article on DD in = Mojo a few years back, worth seeking out.=A0 I seem to recall a very low = glass ceiling there at the Beeb.

On = Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:17 AM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
=
I = grew up with a television series called Dr Who (the Tom Baker and Peter = Davison era, for those of you who know it). The theme song is a pretty = cool piece of electronic music and its totally lasted through the = decades (written in 1963!). I knew nothing about the musician who = "realized" the theme. I knew it was composed in 1963 by Ron Grainer, but = apparently it was "realized" by Delia Derbyshire.

There is a = clip on youtube showing her looping with tape machines which I though = you would appreciate.

Video clip from a BBC doc about = Delia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNDX_CS3NsTk
=
Here's the Dr Who theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbKg9tuSbXmk
=
I can't believe I never heard of her because she was = amazing...maybe because she retired from composing in the 70's?

=
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 From akain_salif@y7mail.com Sun Jul 20 20:05:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 666 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:05:16 UTC Received: from vizslamail.hu (large.vizslamail.hu [193.202.82.52]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97073BE92 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web-01.vizslamail.swi.hu ([192.168.1.132]) by smtp-out-01.vizslamail.swi.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.44 #1 (Debian)) id 1KKewo-0003w0-Ua from ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:51:58 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Akain Salif To: .... Subject: ASALAMALEKU URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL.................... 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GEORGE BRUMLEY.=0D =0D http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa/07/20/kenya.crash/index.html=0D =0D Yours faithfully,=0D Salif Akain=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D ______________________________________________________Szezon nyit=C3=B3 ny= =C3=A1rigumi akci=C3=B3k a www.gumi1.hu port=C3=A1lon!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 20 22:36:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 822BA3BEA2; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:36:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> References: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <30c0aac9225a78d1bfed3e9ff4a991a7@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:35:59 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:36:10 +0000 (UTC) Zoe, Yeah, I grew up with the classic old BBC series too (rebroadcast in the USA on PBSof course). It has remained a sort of guilty pleasure over the years (including it's current reincarnation and spin-offs). My wifa nd my children have all come to love the old goofy, corny, campy old Brit si-fi enterprise as well. One of the first things my youngest son (a freshman in high school) sought to teach himself to play on his clarinett was the "Dr. Who Theme." I guess the story goes that although Ron Grainer was given the original task of creating the score for the show, he subsequently heard some of Derbyshire's music and (humbly and appropriately) realized it would be even more perfect for the job. However, Delia was not a member of the musician's union (or some other politic requisite of the time) and the BBC was forced by said organization to delete or "demote" her in the end credits (not being a supposedly accredited "musician" - no category for "electronic musician" existing at the time). Plus it probably didn't help that she was a woman edging in on an "old boy's" network either. So, Grainer has been given public credit over the years for music that was likely entirely Delia Derbyshire's and she given the patriarchal pat-on-the-head (slap in the face) as in the "realized by" credit. To give Grainer own credit, I understand it was he who fought for her to be given full credit at first . . . and at least that much as a compromise (the union and the BBC intended to leave her off altogether). Look it all up on Wikipedia sometime. Cheers . . . Ted Killian. On Jul 20, 2008, at 11:17 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: > I grew up with a television series called Dr Who From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 01:23:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D2013BEA6; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen><20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48804644.8080300@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:23:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:23:47 +0000 (UTC) I bet if you did a blind A/B/C test with Mackie's, JBLs, and the RCF, with 10 different musicians, you'd get a different response from all of them, not just in terms of their favorite speakers, but the nuances of each. So, I'd support whoever said early that it is basically personal preference and each to his own. The responses on this list basically prove the point, given preferences. It may be that one speakers enhances a particular frequency or another, goes higher, goes lower, sound "smoother", sounds better with this instrument vs. that one...but most of that is subjective in light of what is "better". I bought the RCFs because I had the cash and I hear good things about them. But I've played through JBLs and Mackies, and I can get the sound I want out of all of them - mainly because I have not narrowed the criteria for "my sound" down to a gnat's ass such that only one particular brand of speakers satisfies me. What a miserable box to paint myself in, if I had done that. I would be a realy sore ass for any sound guy who didn't bring my favorite speakers. If I were that picky about the particular sounds of a PA, I'd be constantly frustrated whenever I played and I had no control over the house PA, the PA of the outfit running sound, etc. I have tried to mellow out a bit in terms and not be such a premadonna about a sound systems. Basically, if they are by one of those 3 or 4 top brands, and in stereo, I'm happy. I can tweak my EQ in my compter or on the board if I think things are that out of whack...but they never are for me with those top brands. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 03:08:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FA863BEA2; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:08:01 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=W0dIE6atn8hUGE5H0IJPxnSd1eeoHlEZ7+J5xnQDf60xDGALK23U2IikPAGUokxhFrNLB72KNny6MEnHbv4+xC6E/8YW9xILs5Dac4b+8lJPwUTPjrUN6RyqyLaIsGJycg3/Pket/RBL0oSJQxX3UmS1A0hHwUNv5bfReKu11U4=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:01:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Tony Douglas Reply-To: tonyisyourpal@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <30c0aac9225a78d1bfed3e9ff4a991a7@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <991398.42415.qm@web27705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi there, --- On Sun, 20/7/08, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote: > I guess the story goes that although Ron Grainer was given > the original=20 > task of creating the score for the show, he subsequently > heard some of=20 > Derbyshire's music and (humbly and appropriately) > realized it would be=20 > even more perfect for the job. However, Delia was not a > member of the=20 > musician's union (or some other politic requisite of > the time) and the=20 > BBC was forced by said organization to delete or > "demote" her in the=20 > end credits (not being a supposedly accredited > "musician" - no category=20 > for "electronic musician" existing at the time). I've heard this story told several times (including Ron Grainer's "Did I wr= ite that ?" and Delia's "Most of it" response, when he first heard the fini= shed theme), but this is the first time the Musician's Union has been menti= oned. There's an interview with Delia here -> http://web.archive.org/web/20= 060517133312/http://www.sonicartsnetwork.org/ARTICLES/ARTICLE2000JoHutton.h= tml where she says ... "I did the Dr Who theme music mostly on the Jason valve oscillators. Ron Gr= ainer brought me the score. He expected to hire a band to play it, but when= he heard what I had done electronically, he=E2=80=99d never imagined it wo= uld be so good. He offered me half of the royalties, but the BBC wouldn=E2= =80=99t allow it. I was just on an assistant studio manager=E2=80=99s salar= y and that was it.... and we got a free radio times. The boss wouldn=E2=80= =99t let anybody have any sort of credit." > Plus it probably=20 > didn't help that she was a woman edging in on an > "old boy's" network=20 > either. Probably closer to the mark, given the trouble of getting into sound record= ing in the first place. > So, Grainer has been given public credit over the > years for=20 > music that was likely entirely Delia Derbyshire's and > she given the=20 > patriarchal pat-on-the-head (slap in the face) as in the > "realized by"=20 > credit. To give Grainer own credit, I understand it was he > who fought=20 > for her to be given full credit at first . . . and at > least that much=20 > as a compromise (the union and the BBC intended to leave > her off=20 > altogether). >=20 > Look it all up on Wikipedia sometime. >=20 Indeed. For the curious there is also a tribute website at http://www.delia= -derbyshire.org, and a tribute page on MySpace. There's also a recent BBC a= rticle including some audio clips here -> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entert= ainment/7512072.stm Oh, and as to Doctors ... Jon Pertwee or Tom Baker. It gets increasingly na= ff after that (Bonnie Langford as an assistant !?!?!?!?!) - Tony =0A=0A=0A __________________________________________________________= =0ANot happy with your email address?.=0AGet the one you really want - mill= ions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.co= m/ymail/new.html From root@albeeadventures.com Mon Jul 21 03:40:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2962 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:40:58 UTC Received: from paladin.safesecureweb.com (paladin.safesecureweb.com [76.12.13.92]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9EF3BE95 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by paladin.safesecureweb.com (Postfix, from userid 216636) id D268785BD3; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:25:14 -0400 (EDT) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: REGARDS From: Mr.David Martins Reply-To: davidmart2@sify.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20080721032514.D268785BD3@paladin.safesecureweb.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:25:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Mr.David Martins Accra, Ghana. 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I have already submittedannual report for that year to my head office here in Accra Ghana as Ihave watched with keen interest as they will never know of this excess I have since, placed this amount of $ 7,597.864.00 Million United States dollars only to an Escrow Code account without a beneficiary(anonymous) to avoid trace As an officer of the bank, I cannot bedirectly connected to this money due to civil service code which formits civil servants from owing or operating foreign currency account coupled with the fact that the fund is huge thus I am impelled to request for your assistance to receive this money into your bank account on my behalf I intend to part 30% of this fund to you while 70% shall befor me. I do need to stress that there are practically no risk involved in this. It's going to be a bank-to-bank transfer. All I need from you is to stand as the original depositor of this fund so that the fund can be legally processed to your name and be transferred to your account. If you accept this offer, I will appreciate your timely response to my private email: davidmart1@sify.com WithRegards, Mr.David Martins From root@albeeadventures.com Mon Jul 21 03:46:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from paladin.safesecureweb.com (paladin.safesecureweb.com [76.12.13.92]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF1E3BE95 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by paladin.safesecureweb.com (Postfix, from userid 216636) id BF5188560A; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:51:33 -0400 (EDT) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: REGARDS From: Mr.David Martins Reply-To: davidmart2@sify.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20080721025133.BF5188560A@paladin.safesecureweb.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:51:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Mr.David Martins Accra, Ghana. Hello Dear I got your contact during my search for a reliable,honest and a trust worth personto entrust this huge transfer project with My name is Mr.David Martins,Branch manager of a financial institution here in Ghana. I am a Ghanaian married with two kids. I am writing to solicit your assistance inthe transfer of $ 7,597.864.00 Million United States dollars only. This fund is the excess of what my branch in which am the manager made asprofit during the 2005 financial year. I have already submittedannual report for that year to my head office here in Accra Ghana as Ihave watched with keen interest as they will never know of this excess I have since, placed this amount of $ 7,597.864.00 Million United States dollars only to an Escrow Code account without a beneficiary(anonymous) to avoid trace As an officer of the bank, I cannot bedirectly connected to this money due to civil service code which formits civil servants from owing or operating foreign currency account coupled with the fact that the fund is huge thus I am impelled to request for your assistance to receive this money into your bank account on my behalf I intend to part 30% of this fund to you while 70% shall befor me. I do need to stress that there are practically no risk involved in this. It's going to be a bank-to-bank transfer. All I need from you is to stand as the original depositor of this fund so that the fund can be legally processed to your name and be transferred to your account. If you accept this offer, I will appreciate your timely response to my private email: davidmart1@sify.com WithRegards, Mr.David Martins From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 06:26:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8CD33BEAF; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=9my95t6MuOXUjolkMUHrattRbUsMVl3xMWHBWPxMXOk=; b=MFfH9kknQ0JRJbk09A4k4lyczVMgNlw2h0MK8oUjxPraSTIg5WfdT1UW8lmSmThJLI Ofv5FitkjD+DJOFlTdpqfNKHz5myYFMAppZQjtYFOLAqhVGpjWh38Ow/85kPbQVmAICk l05PCXwdsQS5UFqTFUGhymJSm1Sf1ddD0t4Cc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=PdQgXxxP+R/NJtPnu66tpcDrf3AVjYvFde4Bs2H1tuCFF4/DuTJZWNb72Jz7jUOAHu 8qVZy6Ysxl+Z2544vVVRfTly5GLwQNVE8OpJcq5h5D1vozYCeQ9N1dFsgFqAlL3KJm1s 2qHh2Zqgl/YxZta9+Tkf/l5kG3noLWi84rzzk= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0807202326t551f1ce5sb41a4a74e4f19390@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:26:22 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video In-Reply-To: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_56116_11797524.1216621582706" References: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: dc694ea296db7313 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:26:24 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_56116_11797524.1216621582706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I must also profess my dedication to Dr Who, the music and the TV Series. (There is by the way a fascinating documentary called "Alchemists of sound" that I have on my computer - about the whole of the BBC's Radiophonic Workshop, the unique electronic music studio... Ill post it somewhere if theres some interest). I was an avid watcher as a kid and profess that my first doctor was Jon Pertwee, moving on to Tom Baker. I even phoned in to Swap Shop to ask the question "How long is your scarf?" When he was on. (I wasnt allowed to ask the question, cos that was th qustion HE was gonna ask so the views could win it!!!) And I was often hiding behind the sofa or a cushion on a Saturday Evening. It is true that they seemed to go down hill after me (I hate Peter Davison myself) but isnt that the nature of the program, that it grows up with you? You "Doctor is always the "real one" . God I watched the "new one" last night and Blimey, it was still exiting, the Daleks are still very frightening! AND the Doctor transmogrified (or whatever it was called) into yet a NEW Doctor (genius explanation for an actor moving on) ...Blimey I hadnt even seen the old one before!!! Anyway.. sorry for the OT reminiscence.. m ------=_Part_56116_11797524.1216621582706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I must also profess my dedication to Dr Who, the music and the TV Series. (There is by the way a fascinating documentary called "Alchemists of sound" that I have on my computer -  about the whole of the BBC's Radiophonic Workshop, the unique electronic music studio... Ill post it somewhere if theres some interest).

I was an avid watcher as a kid and profess that my first doctor was Jon Pertwee, moving on to Tom Baker. I even phoned in to Swap Shop to ask the question "How long is your scarf?" When he was on. (I wasnt allowed to ask the question, cos that was th qustion HE was gonna ask so the views could win it!!!) And I was often hiding behind the sofa or a cushion on a Saturday Evening.

It is true that they seemed to go down hill after me (I hate Peter Davison myself) but isnt that the nature of the program, that it grows up with you? You "Doctor is always the "real one" . God I watched the "new one" last night and Blimey, it was still exiting, the Daleks are still very frightening! AND the Doctor transmogrified (or whatever it was called) into yet a NEW Doctor (genius explanation for an actor moving on) ...Blimey I hadnt even seen the old one before!!!

Anyway.. sorry for the OT reminiscence..

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------=_Part_56116_11797524.1216621582706-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 07:14:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78BF13BEA6; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Krispen Hartung'" , References: <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: RE: OT: Was Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350> now Monitor Suggestions? Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:14:01 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01c8eb01$5cc8b050$6801a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Thread-Index: Acjq/pGmzu3h2+JKRkGHmBN65RGBlQAAII+Q Resent-Message-ID: <7UMJMB.A.JqB._cDhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:14:07 +0000 (UTC) I can't agree more, ultimately it comes down to your hands and ears and your ability to use eq and signal processing. I lust after a Bose system as much for how it radiates sound as for how its sounds. Yet I have a pair of mackie SM350's that work great for me. My event studio monitors , suck however, I think I'm loosing yet another tweeter and one speaker has developed a buzz and certain frequencies. I really like the sound of the KRK's, and since my control room is so small I could probable get away with the 5 inch speakers, any suggestions? Bill -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:24 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers I bet if you did a blind A/B/C test with Mackie's, JBLs, and the RCF, with 10 different musicians, you'd get a different response from all of them, not just in terms of their favorite speakers, but the nuances of each. So, I'd support whoever said early that it is basically personal preference and each to his own. The responses on this list basically prove the point, given preferences. It may be that one speakers enhances a particular frequency or another, goes higher, goes lower, sound "smoother", sounds better with this instrument vs. that one...but most of that is subjective in light of what is "better". I bought the RCFs because I had the cash and I hear good things about them. But I've played through JBLs and Mackies, and I can get the sound I want out of all of them - mainly because I have not narrowed the criteria for "my sound" down to a gnat's ass such that only one particular brand of speakers satisfies me. What a miserable box to paint myself in, if I had done that. I would be a realy sore ass for any sound guy who didn't bring my favorite speakers. If I were that picky about the particular sounds of a PA, I'd be constantly frustrated whenever I played and I had no control over the house PA, the PA of the outfit running sound, etc. I have tried to mellow out a bit in terms and not be such a premadonna about a sound systems. Basically, if they are by one of those 3 or 4 top brands, and in stereo, I'm happy. I can tweak my EQ in my compter or on the board if I think things are that out of whack...but they never are for me with those top brands. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 08:11:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E9403BEB2; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 50421254/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.239.237 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.239.237 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah8BANDfg0hPRu/t/2dsb2JhbAAIrUaDRA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,222,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="50421254" Message-ID: <488444A8.6080006@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:11:20 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video References: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> <30c0aac9225a78d1bfed3e9ff4a991a7@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <30c0aac9225a78d1bfed3e9ff4a991a7@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:11:04 +0000 (UTC) There's a BBC Documentary called "Alchemists of Sound" with loads of footage of Delia and tape loops. It's available "on the internet". On youtube in 7 parts. ..or as a "torrent" and some reading here:- http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr08/articles/radiophonic.htm (only the first free page of a pay for view article, but fascinating) tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > Zoe, > I guess the story goes that although Ron Grainer was given the original > task of creating the score for the show, he subsequently heard some of > Derbyshire's music and (humbly and appropriately) realized it would be from interviews with Derbyshire & Grainer:- Grainer provided the score, which he intended as some kind of "surf guitar" thing. Derbyshire's interpretation of it was so far from his intentions that he wanted to give her a composer credit. ..but the last time I watched, the credits still just say Grainer, although the reworked theme obviously has elements that originated in the radiophonic workshop. One of the most used techniques by the Workshop was:- (all analog tape of course) 1)Record a sound 2)Re-Record at different speeds, enough notes to make the part. 3)Cut those notes to length, with the correct length for their rhythm 4)Splice the notes together to create the tune a bit like edp slice'n'dice andy butler ps the Dalek voice is a ring modulation with a 30Hz sine wave From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 08:14:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC1053BEB6; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 50422780/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.239.237 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.239.237 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah8BAGTig0hPRu/t/2dsb2JhbAAIrUmDRA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,222,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="50422780" Message-ID: <48844594.3010300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:15:16 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, khartung@cableone.net Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen><20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48804644.8080300@tiscali.co.uk> <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0Pn6o.A.-kC.DWEhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:14:59 +0000 (UTC) so you missed the Dalek Shampoo reference? :-) Krispen Hartung wrote: > I bet if you did a blind A/B/C test with Mackie's, JBLs, and the RCF, > with 10 different musicians, you'd get a different response from all of > them, not just in terms of their favorite speakers, but the nuances of > each. So, I'd support whoever said early that it is basically personal > preference and each to his own. The responses on this list basically > prove the point, given preferences. It may be that one speakers enhances > a particular frequency or another, goes higher, goes lower, sound > "smoother", sounds better with this instrument vs. that one...but most > of that is subjective in light of what is "better". I bought the RCFs > because I had the cash and I hear good things about them. But I've > played through JBLs and Mackies, and I can get the sound I want out of > all of them - mainly because I have not narrowed the criteria for "my > sound" down to a gnat's ass such that only one particular brand of > speakers satisfies me. What a miserable box to paint myself in, if I had > done that. I would be a realy sore ass for any sound guy who didn't > bring my favorite speakers. If I were that picky about the particular > sounds of a PA, I'd be constantly frustrated whenever I played and I had > no control over the house PA, the PA of the outfit running sound, etc. I > have tried to mellow out a bit in terms and not be such a premadonna > about a sound systems. Basically, if they are by one of those 3 or 4 top > brands, and in stereo, I'm happy. I can tweak my EQ in my compter or on > the board if I think things are that out of whack...but they never are > for me with those top brands. > > Kris > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 08:37:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E39963BEBE; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:37:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 49792472/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.239.237 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.239.237 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah8BAATog0hPRu/t/2dsb2JhbAAIrT6DRA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,222,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="49792472" Message-ID: <48844AE4.7020004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:37:56 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen><20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48804644.8080300@tiscali.co.uk> <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:37:39 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > If I were that picky about the particular > sounds of a PA, I'd be constantly frustrated whenever I played and I had > no control over the house PA, the PA of the outfit running sound, etc. I > have tried to mellow out a bit in terms and not be such a premadonna > about a sound systems. er..yep but we're talking more about which pa to *buy* here. No-one said they were picky about someone else's pa. Worst I ever used was a Karaoke machine powered by an unfit friend on a bicycle, pretty much inaudible to the player, and when I asked if it could go louder the pa guy (trying to help) unplugged the extension speaker, making it quieter .........but no complaints ;-) So far, we've got some really full info about JBL vs Mackie, and a recommendation for RFC, hopefully quite useful. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 10:14:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BF813BEAF; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1172 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:14:32 UTC Message-Id: <80785FAB-3B6B-495E-965C-84EDC0004703@gmail.com> From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <488444A8.6080006@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:54:58 +0200 References: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> <30c0aac9225a78d1bfed3e9ff4a991a7@charter.net> <488444A8.6080006@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Are you sure it isn't in 6 parts, rather than 7? I don't see number 7. On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:11 AM, andy butler wrote: > There's a BBC Documentary called "Alchemists of Sound" with loads of =20= > footage of Delia and tape loops. > It's available "on the internet". On youtube in 7 parts. > ..or as a "torrent" > and some reading here:- > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr08/articles/radiophonic.htm > (only the first free page of a pay for view article, but fascinating) > > > tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> Zoe, >> I guess the story goes that although Ron Grainer was given the =20 >> original task of creating the score for the show, he subsequently =20 >> heard some of Derbyshire's music and (humbly and appropriately) =20 >> realized it would be > > from interviews with Derbyshire & Grainer:- > Grainer provided the score, which he intended as some kind of "surf =20= > guitar" thing. > Derbyshire's interpretation of it was so far from his intentions =20 > that he wanted > to give her a composer credit. > ..but the last time I watched, the credits still just say Grainer, =20 > although the reworked > theme obviously has elements that originated in the radiophonic =20 > workshop. > > One of the most used techniques by the Workshop was:- > (all analog tape of course) > 1)Record a sound > 2)Re-Record at different speeds, enough notes to make the part. > 3)Cut those notes to length, with the correct length for their rhythm > 4)Splice the notes together to create the tune > > a bit like edp slice'n'dice > andy butler > ps > the Dalek voice is a ring modulation with a 30Hz sine wave > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 10:19:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE5773BEA2; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <2580A5B3-13FA-4E2F-9BB0-5174DB4A7117@gmail.com> From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <488444A8.6080006@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:56:55 +0200 References: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> <30c0aac9225a78d1bfed3e9ff4a991a7@charter.net> <488444A8.6080006@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Resent-Message-ID: <4wlzWC.A.SCE.MLGhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:19:56 +0000 (UTC) There's another documentary as well - Electric Music Machine On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:11 AM, andy butler wrote: > There's a BBC Documentary called "Alchemists of Sound" with loads of =20= > footage of Delia and tape loops. > It's available "on the internet". On youtube in 7 parts. > ..or as a "torrent" > and some reading here:- > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr08/articles/radiophonic.htm > (only the first free page of a pay for view article, but fascinating) > > > tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: >> Zoe, >> I guess the story goes that although Ron Grainer was given the =20 >> original task of creating the score for the show, he subsequently =20 >> heard some of Derbyshire's music and (humbly and appropriately) =20 >> realized it would be > > from interviews with Derbyshire & Grainer:- > Grainer provided the score, which he intended as some kind of "surf =20= > guitar" thing. > Derbyshire's interpretation of it was so far from his intentions =20 > that he wanted > to give her a composer credit. > ..but the last time I watched, the credits still just say Grainer, =20 > although the reworked > theme obviously has elements that originated in the radiophonic =20 > workshop. > > One of the most used techniques by the Workshop was:- > (all analog tape of course) > 1)Record a sound > 2)Re-Record at different speeds, enough notes to make the part. > 3)Cut those notes to length, with the correct length for their rhythm > 4)Splice the notes together to create the tune > > a bit like edp slice'n'dice > andy butler > ps > the Dalek voice is a ring modulation with a 30Hz sine wave > From musta11@superposta.com Mon Jul 21 10:35:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.226]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B4C3BE99 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 32so6905313huf.10 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.87.5 with SMTP id k5mr4677588fgb.59.1216636476367; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.63.17 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:34:35 +0200 From: "musta musta" Reply-To: mustapha_billy10@yahoo.fr Subject: REPLY URGENTLY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_63786_16240452.1216636476270" To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=_Part_63786_16240452.1216636476270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >From Mr.Mustapha Billy Auditing/Accounting Section Groupe Bank of Africa (BOA) Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso. 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From Mr.Mustapha Billy
Auditing/Accounting Section
Groupe Bank of Africa (BOA)
Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso.
 
My dear, I am contacting you in regards to a business transaction of a huge sum of money from a deceased account.
Though I know that a transaction of this magnitude will make any one apprehensive and worried, but I am assuring you that all will be well at the end of the transaction. Meanwhile, I decided to contact you due to the urgency of this transaction.
 
PROPOSITION; I discovered an abundant sum of $18 Million US Dollars in an account that belongs to one of our foreign customers who died along with his entire family in a plane crash. Since his death, none of his next-of-kin or relations has come forward to lay claims to his account (fund) with this bank (boa).
 
This fund cannot be released from his account unless someone applies for claim as the next-of-kin to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines.
Upon this discovery,
I now seek your permission to have you stand as a next of kin to the deceased person, and all information concerning the deceased person and the fund will be giving to you by me as an insider of the bank.
 
All documentations involved concerning the deceased will be carefully workedout by me for the fund to be released in your favour as the next of kin and beneficiary of the fund.
It may interest you to note that I have secured from the probate an order of mandamus to locate any of the deceased beneficiaries.
 
Acknowledge the receipt of this message in acceptance of my mutual business proposal because it will bring more financial increase in our life.


On your acceptance I will send to you an application letter you re-send to the appropriate departments of the bank for necessary approvals in your favour before the transfer will be processed.
 
I shall be compensating you with 30% of the fund while 60% will be for me and 10% will be set aside for the expenses that might incure during the transaction.
And I will also let you know that while your share stays with you, mine shall be for investment purposes in your country
 
If this proposal is acceptable by you, do not take undue advantage of the trust I have bestowed in you.please reply to this my private email address:mustapha_billy100@yahoo.fr


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Mr.Mustapha Billy

------=_Part_63786_16240452.1216636476270-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 11:54:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFA073BEBA; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:54:01 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <20080721115401.137560@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen><20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48804644.8080300@tiscali.co.uk> <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19h2/hgTPVht/rXQH54poSu7TF82YakglwNdK7zmd YG/twDWbgIaur5nbKsFFO3LoPrhO+JeW7ndg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 606xecldbUk7d58oyWknshpsZ2hlNwoI Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Fair enough, Kris. Speaking of top active PA speakers, don't forget to keep the FBT Maxx 2A in mind. They are on par with the RCF and much less known. I did choose them over the RCF for the same price!! best regards Buzap -- Psssst! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 12:08:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DCF73BEA9; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:07:57 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080721120757.213000@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: RE: endings for live performance To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/+2XQaYDT+UauIttIhGR+Tuq+adr4VpkBjwtt0Jr FJfgoi06LYAYxpENNyhXuC3WYUSlj9SWAcsw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: L0qxeUE7bUk7cZ8oyWknk6VsZ2hlNwoK Resent-Message-ID: <7V822.A.GVF.fwHhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:08:00 +0000 (UTC) > I figure using the basic RC2 and > coming up with ways of compensating for its limitations is inspiring some > creativity - like 'necessity the mother of invention'. Yes, somtimes I just plug my RC-2 to the MicroCube - and I'm surprised what I come up with :-) -- Psssst! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 12:13:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 130533BEB2; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:13:35 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> Message-ID: <20080721121335.213040@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18BmL8XWlsB+HKRugajYVFebMzRxrNBL24nD6vj21 fvnQwKHZ0f/vou5pCHbzPqFAIAcTAJD1wyxw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: JznOD3A0a2AoJ80tzHUyleg6OWhhasdJ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Really loved the "looping gear"! ;-) Thanks for the post. Also really liked this one by (I assume) Delia Derbyshire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9AkSI_UbIE&feature=related Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 13:40:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 648813BEC7; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <068501c8eb37$60c94170$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen><20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48804644.8080300@tiscali.co.uk> <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48844594.3010300@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:40:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Totally! :) Running a bit slow lately. K- ----- Original Message ----- > so you missed the Dalek Shampoo reference? > > :-) > > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> I bet if you did a blind A/B/C test with Mackie's, JBLs, and the RCF, >> with 10 different musicians, you'd get a different response from all of >> them, not just in terms of their favorite speakers, but the nuances of >> each. So, I'd support whoever said early that it is basically personal >> preference and each to his own. The responses on this list basically >> prove the point, given preferences. It may be that one speakers enhances >> a particular frequency or another, goes higher, goes lower, sound >> "smoother", sounds better with this instrument vs. that one...but most of >> that is subjective in light of what is "better". I bought the RCFs >> because I had the cash and I hear good things about them. But I've played >> through JBLs and Mackies, and I can get the sound I want out of all of >> them - mainly because I have not narrowed the criteria for "my sound" >> down to a gnat's ass such that only one particular brand of speakers >> satisfies me. What a miserable box to paint myself in, if I had done >> that. I would be a realy sore ass for any sound guy who didn't bring my >> favorite speakers. If I were that picky about the particular sounds of >> a PA, I'd be constantly frustrated whenever I played and I had no control >> over the house PA, the PA of the outfit running sound, etc. I have tried >> to mellow out a bit in terms and not be such a premadonna about a sound >> systems. Basically, if they are by one of those 3 or 4 top brands, and in >> stereo, I'm happy. I can tweak my EQ in my compter or on the board if I >> think things are that out of whack...but they never are for me with those >> top brands. >> >> Kris >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 13:43:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F1CF3BEC9; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <069c01c8eb37$d1705df0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen><20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48804644.8080300@tiscali.co.uk> <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48844AE4.7020004@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:43:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:43:56 +0000 (UTC) So, what's the scoop on the FBTs? Are they European as well? Kris > So far, we've got some really full info about JBL vs Mackie, > and a recommendation for RFC, > hopefully quite useful. > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 13:48:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14B173BEC9; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <06b301c8eb38$6a615a00$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen><20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48804644.8080300@tiscali.co.uk> <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20080721115401.137560@gmx.net> Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:48:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:48:12 +0000 (UTC) The FBTs are the only ones I haven't heard. I think there is a store here in Boise that carries them. Are they from Italy as well? One phrase I seen from a handful of audiofiles is "Great, for a cabinet not made out of wood". Now, I am wondering, weight aside (because these things would weigh a ton), what would something like a FCB, Mackie, or FBL 12" powered cab would sound like if it were made out of a decent wood, rather than mold? Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Fair enough, Kris. > > Speaking of top active PA speakers, don't forget to keep the FBT Maxx 2A > in mind. They are on par with the RCF and much less known. I did choose > them over the RCF for the same price!! > > best regards > Buzap > -- > Psssst! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? > Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 13:56:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41D163BEC9; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: What would loopers do without power? Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:56:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_06C2_01C8EB07.445308D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:56:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_06C2_01C8EB07.445308D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next = 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. = For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, = and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the = question. What would you do? Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system? Just to = make it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a = solar powered system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and = RC-2? I think it would be fun to create such a system. Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also a = generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic = items? Imagine packing your bike around to play a gig. :) =20 Kris ------=_NextPart_000_06C2_01C8EB07.445308D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So, let's say hypothetically a major = catastrophe=20 occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent = (unlikely) or=20 highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels=20 and wind power, and powering an amp and looper was a complete = luxury=20 and out of the question.

What would you do?
 
Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system?  = Just to=20 make it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a = solar=20 powered system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and = RC-2?  I=20 think it would be fun to create such a system.
 
Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also = a=20 generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic = items?=20 Imagine packing your bike around to play a gig. :) 
 
Kris
 
------=_NextPart_000_06C2_01C8EB07.445308D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 13:58:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B7573BED6; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=mfz9+cJFNtzRpOldD7VLGW2PLhDHiReKl9VzNRRerHw=; b=o+Gl8q7zNARPvaM1PVg+BZUS4RlQDWY6j8z2bciMW+Zl6UJgsCR1Evr3+1bShzYBke Akhsi7g+kEfRhVWLyIFhA5EzjzwUyeIBs8y8L8McXcEnP9qsdYlNyER8Ps+R67+bSeqm KkzEZxdOGVb3xtZ7mZ+c0DsOkNKFlHCcmTYKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=sMFdfmHrt+pTCy1K351baH01DhhO/CedQGi/3gHe4mE0hQD/6KYI7ntF5h79iO6Ehi Ev1UskZFgPTwNtykvSOdcbkk51k+V4QosHIAamHaz0r55kWXPSHvxdGgo1G7m5BqR1YL 9b3DpfC5a/W48KlNNtGXy04rMAKfT0ug/OEvA= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807210657x15db1ac7t5ca2c89498234277@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:57:59 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_74929_7426198.1216648679532" References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:58:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_74929_7426198.1216648679532 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ed Begley, Jr knows... On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 > decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For > example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and > powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question. > > What would you do? > > Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system? Just to make > it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a solar > powered system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and RC-2? I > think it would be fun to create such a system. > > Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also a > generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic items? > Imagine packing your bike around to play a gig. :) > > Kris > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_74929_7426198.1216648679532 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Ed Begley, Jr knows...

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question.

What would you do?
 
Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system?  Just to make it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a solar powered system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and RC-2?  I think it would be fun to create such a system.
 
Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also a generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic items? Imagine packing your bike around to play a gig. :) 
 
Kris
 



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_74929_7426198.1216648679532-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 14:17:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 506B63BED6; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <074e01c8eb3c$88d08070$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: [BEMF] Boise Experimental Music Festival Survey Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:17:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_074B_01C8EB0A.3DB2FDC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:17:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_074B_01C8EB0A.3DB2FDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Boise Experimental Music Festival is approaching its fourth year and = is planning to make changes, redefine fundamental elements and consider = a core makeover as a creative festival. If you are getting this email, = you can offer your insight about what you would like to see happen in = this unique, creative art festival. This link below will send you to an = online survey that the BEMF4 planning team has developed:=20 http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=3DjOlPHwcWkGgH4dIVKstL3A_3d_3d Answer and submit the questions at your own convenience and leisure. = Your opinion really does count and is very helpful to us. We want to = make this creative festival, one that celebrates avant-garde art and = music an exciting event that everyone in Boise is proud to have here, = especially its local artists and art lovers. Please let us know how we = can make it better for you. Thank you so much for your time. This is also a way to that we can get in touch with you about about = participating in next year's festival (now tentatively set for late = April 2009) as a contributing artist, volunteer, or getting involved in = a number of other ways.=20 Cheers, Krispen Hartung Boise Experimental Music Festival Event Coordinator and Artistic Director http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-3/ info@krispenhartung.com 1-208-724-5603 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google = Groups "Boise Experimental Music Festival (BEMF)" group.=20 To post to this group, send email to BEMF@googlegroups.com=20 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to = BEMF-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com=20 For more options, visit this group at = http://groups.google.com/group/BEMF?hl=3Den=20 -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- ------=_NextPart_000_074B_01C8EB0A.3DB2FDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Boise=20 Experimental Music Festival is approaching its fourth year and is = planning to=20 make changes, redefine fundamental elements and consider a core makeover = as a=20 creative festival. If you are getting this email, you can offer your = insight=20 about what you would like to see happen in this unique, creative art = festival.=20 This link below will send you to an online survey that the BEMF4 = planning team=20 has developed:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=3DjOlPHwcWkGgH4dIVKstL3A_3= d_3d

Answer and submit the questions at = your own=20 convenience and leisure. Your opinion really does count and is very = helpful to=20 us. We want to make this creative festival, one that celebrates = avant-garde art=20 and music an exciting event that everyone in Boise is proud to have = here,=20 especially its local artists and art lovers. Please let us know how we = can make=20 it better for you. Thank you so much for your time.

This is=20 also a way to that we can get in touch with you about about = participating in=20 next year's festival (now tentatively set for late April 2009) as a = contributing=20 artist, volunteer, or getting involved in a number of other ways.=20
Cheers,

 
Krispen Hartung
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Event Coordinator and Artistic Director
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<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_074B_01C8EB0A.3DB2FDC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 14:28:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 780CD3BED9; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:28:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ok6ZbZu/6+b1dK7GjhvVdhNaOHUwUoXPv/nOcHJnfE8=; b=OFWbTdcsM6Y7rpXWjx8VfAJH5AcZZ21Q3EKzmeEwjWhGEzTlRH42qcPuq2Ywy8TPl5 zSgxt025H2rpEPVDLa/cyrs8UiUpc4PjKw5NM5aRjYwUoKtncwAw76ednmauADetViJg 9LQMMlnFouQxjujrTffWyCl4S3GaAk05Vcgis= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=r/Kgg1KXPN03MA/X+FBaOwnljcesp8d5GGLFmVcXNw8cmz3cCJTNYuv95zr2jeqjSY dYC6U6eu/lnKtkAILsC9Wq3BboCgBwOoKmkhh5EjZVPBvHmPEr0PP5mnVuFTFUUvXkkQ G4dWP+4fH8BbI4CXIgqxV3/oJEiYq4B/hkR4U= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807210728x69e29affna2bc49bfa1ebe359@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:28:40 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:28:42 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 > decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For > example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and > powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question. > What would you do? I would go back to acoustic playing and form groups of like minded people to perform each other's compositions. From what I have learned by live-looping I can easily direct three to four people in how to play cool looping contrapunctual stuff as an ensemble. Imagine, just thinking in terms of "loop rate shifting" is an ultra cool composition tool! ;-) I was recently talking to Elliott Sharp when he played here at STockholm New Music Festival and he told me his charts have parts where the performers are urged to chose one out of many suggested parts to loop at any preferred loop length. In the piece this occur simultaneously for each player and it makes for a sort of "multi timbral random script". LOL!!! Once I turned to amplified playing because I was lazy ("goddammit, two more people missing for rehearsal today... better turn on the looper and terrorize just myself to get this finished") and now I often find that I turn to acoustic playing for the same reason... (ooh... don't say I have to pull over and push that "ON" button again...) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 14:34:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 299093BEE6; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: cg00 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:34:26 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200807211434.m6LEYQre029868@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 193.158.99.226 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Take my trombone and play it...it even runs without solar energy (although = I won't be able to do so after some time). Btw, how would you build solar panels in your scenario? ----- original Nachricht -------- So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 d= ecades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For exam= ple, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and powerin= g an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question. What would you do? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 15:06:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7B4E3BED6; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 30039.93992.bm@omp102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=PAQbXGzAc6ritO52sOrhLL9Hbhv2pLuDPDN2X+GTArk96+mYoMVMVjJiGYGJqCXlOzlVmBwqP3BnohnUZJQSkmnSNsIgCJZHaGryC2mC5zkfUiD8ClZZCYr525ryqYgkbt293jI/jTnyevIGQX0aytowNf27aFIgO4Jq+I5k/c0=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:06:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jah Jast Reply-To: jast81@yahoo.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <765798.40373.qm@web110109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Canyon Echoes will do the Job... --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > From: Krispen Hartung > Subject: What would loopers do without power? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 1:56 PM > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe > occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became > non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, > suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, > and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and > out of the question. > > What would you do? >> Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 15:08:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 475BF3BEE1; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: RE: What would loopers do without power? Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:08:22 -0700 Message-ID: <001801c8eb43$9e6fea90$db4fbfb0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C8EB08.F2111290" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcjrOZGwApdyda4STrm7ynBlL72BLgACfhyg Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:08:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C8EB08.F2111290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just watch out for the zombies . ahhhh! From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:56 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: What would loopers do without power? So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question. What would you do? Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system? Just to make it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a solar powered system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and RC-2? I think it would be fun to create such a system. Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also a generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic items? Imagine packing your bike around to play a gig. :) Kris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1563 - Release Date: 7/20/2008 12:59 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C8EB08.F2111290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just watch out for the zombies … = ahhhh!

 

From:= Krispen = Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:56 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: What would loopers do without = power?

 

So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 = decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, = suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and = powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the = question.


What would you do?

 

Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system?  Just to make = it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a solar = powered system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and RC-2?  I think = it would be fun to create such a system.

 

Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also a = generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic items? Imagine = packing your bike around to play a gig. :) 

 

Kris

 

No = virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1563 - Release Date: = 7/20/2008 12:59 PM

------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C8EB08.F2111290-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 15:15:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70B833BEE8; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7oYpoP7g1BLxf0ARSCIIqGu8dplRRn4wKHf6L8vhOIM=; b=fVD5YJXF4sGmm23hk/ivz/A5goV+xG8+3+CxfNKoyF4QhJ6vUlq3a5oiAOUFE9NJd2 y7NRWM75W+6+6UlTtbKkUyvw+XUV+Qw3xoCgIFiIIroItg+nYCnK+66xeKHGOxR/Dpyd BEULf1LxINL+K5QSvPJaPGW/ZmfgBm/pTUheM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=S61VP083buMpUTkhPkAQT3R84JQAfw9hEdJKRlQS/R34HsB+850yOyvf5MV8PXk4/V V77HzAHbbXA7fWK+Utl5sbDTJTTXWTbY5RV0bP58FnxNdNSE+8mMIDeCdWybw+1mveiL oGr4EsazBLEBC7OAsic8thpphQntbkVcVBAsI= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:15:27 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <001801c8eb43$9e6fea90$db4fbfb0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_88133_583408.1216653327307" References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <001801c8eb43$9e6fea90$db4fbfb0$@com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:15:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_88133_583408.1216653327307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline i would leave music for some time and enroll in some kind of resistence to destroy all those in the establishment/government who drove us into this catatrophic situation... i've learnt that from computer games ;-) ... then afterwards we all could waste energy as we do!. cheers, raul 2008/7/21 Qua Veda : > Just watch out for the zombies =85 ahhhh! > > > > *From:* Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] > *Sent:* Monday, July 21, 2008 6:56 AM > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* What would loopers do without power? > > > > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 > decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For > example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and > powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question. > > > What would you do? > > > > Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system? Just to make > it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a solar > powered system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and RC-2? = I > think it would be fun to create such a system. > > > > Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also a > generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic items? > Imagine packing your bike around to play a gig. :) > > > > Kris > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1563 - Release Date: 7/20/2008 > 12:59 PM > --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_88133_583408.1216653327307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
i would leave music for some time and enroll in some kind = of resistence to destroy all those in the establishment/government who drov= e us into this catatrophic situation... i've learnt that from computer = games ;-)  ... then afterwards we all could waste energy as we do!.
cheers,
raul 

2008/7/21 Qua Veda <qua@oregon.com<= /a>>:

Just watch out for the zo= mbies =85 ahhhh!

 

From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung= @cableone.net]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:56 AM


To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: What would loopers do without power?

 

So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 d= ecades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, sup= pose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and powering a= n amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question.


What would you do?

 

Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system?  Just to make it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a solar powe= red system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and RC-2?  I think it w= ould be fun to create such a system.

 

Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also a generator?= Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic items? Imagine packing = your bike around to play a gig. :) 

 

Kris

 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://ww= w.avg.com
Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1563 - Release Date: 7/20/2008 1= 2:59 PM




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TPO at myspace: http= ://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
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------=_Part_88133_583408.1216653327307-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 15:32:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B4103BEEE; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:32:25 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=1Dk0o/58cfT3WcJ7zLZhH2VWG96g1Db2e0B9+3jdqQJDrg1ZBUMvCLNnh3kBjem6Qrti+We0pyYlJA/gdvJAyrM6NnnS5zPmBbNFRojzWbPVevpw8mvqBO63NiCs1f0pIJowxPHKobq5sRVe4Xfob0oA1wnT99Z7Ys96EVveE4k=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:25:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Marshall Reply-To: agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com Subject: Boss DD-20 or Boss RE-20 twin pedals?? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1206771284-1216653945=:25235" Message-ID: <376194.25235.qm@web51512.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:32:25 +0000 (UTC) --0-1206771284-1216653945=:25235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, =A0=A0 I have the DD-20 delay twin pedal already and really like it.=A0 It = has some nice analog echoes and is adustable in many ways.=A0 I=A0watched t= he=A0demo video of the =A0RE-20 Space Echo on the Boss website and was knoc= ked out, but want to know just how different it is from the echo setting on= the DD-20=A0before I fork over another $250. =A0Anybody out there familiar= with both pedals? =A0 thanks in advance =A0 Marc =0A=0A=0A --0-1206771284-1216653945=:25235 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
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Hello all,

   I have the DD-20 delay twin pedal already and really like it.  It has some nice analog echoes and is adustable in many ways.  I watched the demo video of the  RE-20 Space Echo on the Boss website and was knocked out, but want to know just how different it is from the echo setting on the DD-20 before I fork over another $250.  Anybody out there familiar with both pedals?

 

thanks in advance

 

Marc


--0-1206771284-1216653945=:25235-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 16:02:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E5333BEC5; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=J7E9Z5IIH4Sfih8AlP2C3NeJtiXr/LwqUZ8/PX+HJGjG25AH/2WnFDJ+UmLPUklWF43aOVKYSmKAz7MzwfwRdnbtaoug4zP9cTOO5TSqh9yR5qRAyVq3TPjHVEfdopeQ; Message-ID: <20080721110248.maz3pgpwao4goggk@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:02:48 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Krispen Hartung : > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the > next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly > scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and > wind power, and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury > and out of the question. > > What would you do? > I would go primitive -- that is, make music with percussion (logs, sticks, etc) and go with wooden or clay flutes. Would relax with the sound of wind chimes and aeolian harps. This sounds so appealing that I may do this anyway -- in addition to, and not in place of, high-tech music-making -- at least as long as electricity is available. -- Kevin From uaa_11@hotmail.com Mon Jul 21 16:36:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 149061 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:36:40 UTC Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.50]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02DE3BEB2 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (mwinf2010 [172.22.130.38]) by mwinf2305.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 38F771C75D1A for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:11:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (mwinf2013 [172.22.130.41]) by mwinf2010.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 37C071C00081 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:11:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from User (dsl-243-151-04.telkomadsl.co.za [41.243.151.4]) by mwinf2013.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 04DE01C000A0; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:11:02 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080719131103200.04DE01C000A0@mwinf2013.orange.fr Reply-To: From: "Good Day (From Louis Jomo)" Subject: Good Day (From Louis Jomo) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:01:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20080719131102.04DE01C000A0@mwinf2013.orange.fr> To: undisclosed-recipients:; From: Louis Jomo. No.04 Chester Court , 145 Jan Smuts Ave Ave. Opp. Goodman Gallery, Parkwood, JHB P.O.Box1105 Saxonwold, 2132. Email: louisjomo@ymail.com Tel: + 27 73 1867616 Dear Sir/Madam, Don't be surprised to receive this letter from me since you don't know me in person. I am MR. LOUIS JOMO from Zimbabwe the first Son of MR.NDULOV JOMO who was murdered in the land dispute in Zimbabwe by the agents of the ruling government of President ROBERT MUGABE, you must have heard his alleged support and sympathy for the opposition MDC PARTY led by the minority white farmers. My Father was among the few black Zimbabwean rich farmers murdered in cold blood by the war veterans backed by the government. Before the death of my Father, he deposited the sum of US$15M (Fifteen Million United State Dollars) with one of the security company in South Africa , as if he knew the looming danger in ZIMBABWE . The money was deposited as a gem and precious stones to avoid much attraction & demurrage from the security firm. The money was earmarked for the purchase of new machinery and chemicals for the farms and the establishment of new farms in Lesotho and Swaziland before the regretted incident. This Land problem arose when President Robert Mugabe introduced a new land act. Which wholly affects the white rich farmers and some few blacks vehemently condemned the "Modus operandi" adopted by the government. This resulted to rampart killing and Mob actions. My mother and I are staying in South Africa now as Asylum seekers, which have not been beneficial to us; I have decided to transfer this money to a foreign country where we can invest it. I am faced with the dilemma of investing this amount of money in South Africa for fear of encountering the same experience in future since both countries have the same political policy and also law does not permit us to investment hence were refugees. I must let you know that this business is 100% risk free and the nature of your business does not necessarily matter, you can help us if you wish. I and my family have agreed to give you 25% of the total US$15M, 5% will be mapped out for all expenses that maybe incurred during the transfer and 70% will be for me and my familys investment in your country. Therefore if you are willing and interested to render the needed assistance, endeavor to reply through this private mail Address for more brief clarifications. I also need your private mobile, telephone and fax numbers for easy communication. Remember; this is highly confidential and the success of this business depends on how secret it is kept. Expecting your reply soonest. Best regards, MR. LOUIS JOMO (FOR THE FAMILY) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 16:45:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 975313BECA; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Dz+1RYwhtksTKK4vNxMXe8EPmIRk61/uHX7eb/On244=; b=gsXWbBen1pMxwbT4DwfkMYEudE0phUFIOxtfI/SMrT6iEYm11Q0nxdfmSXK10A1No7 d+D6d0+8gtkUocZpuHwZ5wzI/wdhMFeXSj2gHsLKqm87xmf9O9nGH5lmb+cNpvnyl0/v BgJtmsKtnstdChWG6xJoWAVgrz/Nz3BN/U70A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=OgP9Ysw4iMZES6TslT2DhEjWnU7xkWQJ7qscxxQJiN1ceGP33KPgVcKG5vfMZGnK6B yAqpc6IhI8RFZvN1wl6Q9EM8NUBSdJQc82xR4bdv3ogPnyOVUKfxFEQ79Ha045un8F+3 wb9Qg8WZwaLgFLEMBVkQjZY4SkRdnxti13vss= Message-ID: <8c82d1660807210945g769a32d3jdface1a9e0321b66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:45:22 -0400 From: "Patrick Suler" To: agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Boss DD-20 or Boss RE-20 twin pedals?? Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <376194.25235.qm@web51512.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_43896_2990280.1216658722760" References: <376194.25235.qm@web51512.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:45:24 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_43896_2990280.1216658722760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi there Marc, I had the DD-20 briefly. It is the only pedal I ever returned to Musicians Friend. I really despised the sound of the delays. Just my opinion. So you know I'm already biased, but for several other reasons, I don't like Boss/Roland. One of which being the "glitch" on my RC-50...(I changed over the EDP). Anyhow, I was very very suspicious of the RE-20. But since I broke my DL4, and my Line 6 Echo Park has been deteriorating, I was on the lookout for a new tap tempo delay. Boss IS very reliable, if nothing else. So... With some reluctance I tried the RE-20, and found the delay sounded very very nice. And the tap tempo was quite good. The reverbs are ok, warm but a little short for my tastes. Suffice to say, I bought the darned thing and like it a lot. I'm not sure what features the online video tout, but its good. I hope that helps some. -Patrick On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Marc Marshall wrote: > Hello all, > > I have the DD-20 delay twin pedal already and really like it. It has > some nice analog echoes and is adustable in many ways. I watched the demo > video of the RE-20 Space Echo on the Boss website and was knocked out, but > want to know just how different it is from the echo setting on the > DD-20 before I fork over another $250. Anybody out there familiar with both > pedals? > > > > thanks in advance > > > > Marc > > ------=_Part_43896_2990280.1216658722760 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Hi there Marc,
I had the DD-20 briefly. It is the only pedal I ever returned to Musicians Friend. I really despised the sound of the delays. Just my opinion.

So you know I'm already biased, but for several other reasons, I don't like Boss/Roland. One of which being the "glitch" on my RC-50...(I changed over the EDP).

Anyhow, I was very very suspicious of the RE-20. But since I broke my DL4, and my Line 6 Echo Park has been deteriorating, I was on the lookout for a new tap tempo delay. Boss IS very reliable, if nothing else. So...

With some reluctance I tried the RE-20, and found the delay sounded very very nice. And the tap tempo was quite good. The reverbs are ok, warm but a little short for my tastes. Suffice to say, I bought the darned thing and like it a lot. I'm not sure what features the online video tout, but its good.

I hope that helps some.
-Patrick

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Marc Marshall <agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello all,

   I have the DD-20 delay twin pedal already and really like it.  It has some nice analog echoes and is adustable in many ways.  I watched the demo video of the  RE-20 Space Echo on the Boss website and was knocked out, but want to know just how different it is from the echo setting on the DD-20 before I fork over another $250.  Anybody out there familiar with both pedals?

 

thanks in advance

 

Marc



------=_Part_43896_2990280.1216658722760-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 16:48:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C1753BEDE; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:48:45 EDT Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c51.32737566.35b617ed_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <4Fnr5D.A.9pC.z3LhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:48:51 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c51.32737566.35b617ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit grab my peter paul and mary song book and a few zombies and find the most delay drenched church around.....i think i could get along very well without power (musically) but as a way of life, i still think i could do it but i would be way bummed and when i ran out of anti-depressants i'd go join raul for a political wilding!.....m "one man, one oat!" OAT WILLY new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) --part1_c51.32737566.35b617ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable grab my peter paul and mary song book a= nd a few zombies and find the most delay drenched church around.....i think=20= i could get along very well without power (musically) but as a way of life,=20= i still think i could do it but i would be way bummed and when i ran out of=20= anti-depressants i'd go join raul for a political wilding!.....m



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(http://www.f= anhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=3Daolspr00050000000020) --part1_c51.32737566.35b617ed_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 17:05:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 262943BEBA; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 50037088/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.239.237 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.239.237 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvoAAGBehEhPRu/t/2dsb2JhbAAIrkCDRA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,224,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="50037088" Message-ID: <4884C1BF.2000501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:05:03 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video References: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> <30c0aac9225a78d1bfed3e9ff4a991a7@charter.net> <488444A8.6080006@tiscali.co.uk> <80785FAB-3B6B-495E-965C-84EDC0004703@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80785FAB-3B6B-495E-965C-84EDC0004703@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7mwnbB.A.M9C.DHMhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:05:07 +0000 (UTC) nope, that's just something I picked up on Google. If you see the end credits, I guess you seen it all andy doc rossi wrote: > Are you sure it isn't in 6 parts, rather than 7? I don't see number 7. > > On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:11 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> There's a BBC Documentary called "Alchemists of Sound" with loads of >> footage of Delia and tape loops. >> It's available "on the internet". On youtube in 7 parts. >> ..or as a "torrent" >> and some reading here:- >> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr08/articles/radiophonic.htm >> (only the first free page of a pay for view article, but fascinating) >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 17:51:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 889F93BEAF; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=a5qx+JgnE4m3lxUyV3MW6C31Y8RUcPoCgm5ywWmGLac=; b=VWOvTB/XzYoqdy6a7+nb/QlxN4wfX8WN8CTfRAZ7L1IjQFU8uVwunV7nxusjPt9DrF rwY+QGWVNgC7KBtIzw2tYWkYomu5vnRt9qTU7UsBR2OkIOv7PTDGqVVYJ+WLYYaL+xi5 VqXojhIzELH52ZRz6X3qNgP1xTfx9WiJunPe4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=UDuNnheZCRAPuTGGW01z9CLLDwiVeYihjT+1K9uHF1hCWjNdx8Ehoppj9RzuubMEtF gYZ6itzb2jfN8wNZWksdDS2Dt6cmz8KccdTRZp3RyjOHKg612hVMwUwfWUShobYVmPAJ UOGG1GV3iE70oYS0a/1NwHIMYGwX//zSDSDf4= Message-ID: <89a806470807211051t7bc13f46od4c5c0a25766c6e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:51:02 -0700 From: "Sam Rogers" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: What would loopers do without power? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_75280_27574527.1216662662060" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:51:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_75280_27574527.1216662662060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline As a 100% Organic Human Music act doing more eco-events, I have a gridless rig that I enjoy taking to places like Burning Man. I haven't wanted to bring my EDP out there for fear of the dust, but the constraint of using the simple 1-1/2 loop RC-2 has actually been an improvement to my music in many cases. The single 9V battery the RC-2 uses is easy to recharge off of solar, as are the 6-AAs that your Microcube uses, Krispen. You are already working without plugging into anything and can find solar battery chargers to power your posted needs for around $60-80. That is if you expect that the zombies will dispose of all the batteries... I like to strap a Brunton Solo Personal Power Plant 120v AC / 12v DC battery to one side, and an AN-100 reference montior to the other (better than the Roland Microcube for me!), plug my mic into the RC-2 and walk my show around. After charging up during the day off of my camp's wind generator or my hybrid car's lighter socket, I performed for up to 90-minutes at night making music without running out of juice. I'm planning to do the same again in a month! This time I'm going with the 14-watt SolarRoll too, which is a 5-foot long, laminated, flexible solar panel that rolls down to a power towel sized tube. From what I read, the Brunton 25-watt trifold and 26-watt multifold panels are even better. You can pick up any of these portable solar panels on eBay for around $300. The battery I have is now out of production, but still available used for around $200-300. Brunton is just coming out with a new line of personal power storage devices that are smaller and might work even better. Check 'em out at http://brunton.com/catalog.php?cat=8 Best of luck in the coming apocalypse! Sam Rogers One Mouth Band Newest CD: www.OrganicHumanMusic.com Website: www.OneMouthBand.com EPK: www.sonicbids.com/SamRogers MySpace: www.myspace.com/onemouthband ------=_Part_75280_27574527.1216662662060 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
As a 100% Organic Human Music act doing more eco-events, I have a gridless rig that I enjoy taking to places like Burning Man. I haven't wanted to bring my EDP out there for fear of the dust, but the constraint of using the simple 1-1/2 loop RC-2 has actually been an improvement to my music in many cases. The single 9V battery the RC-2 uses is easy to recharge off of solar, as are the 6-AAs that your Microcube uses, Krispen. You are already working without plugging into anything and can find solar battery chargers to power your posted needs for around $60-80.  That is if you expect that the zombies will dispose of all the batteries...

I like to strap a Brunton Solo Personal Power Plant 120v AC / 12v DC battery to one side, and an AN-100 reference montior to the other (better than the Roland Microcube for me!), plug my mic into the RC-2 and walk my show around. After charging up during the day off of my camp's wind generator or my hybrid car's lighter socket, I performed for up to 90-minutes at night making music without running out of juice. I'm planning to do the same again in a month! This time I'm going with the 14-watt SolarRoll too, which is a 5-foot long, laminated, flexible solar panel that rolls down to a power towel sized tube. From what I read, the Brunton 25-watt trifold and 26-watt multifold panels are even better.

You can pick up any of these portable solar panels on eBay for around $300. The battery I have is now out of production, but still available used for around $200-300. Brunton is just coming out with a new line of personal power storage devices that are smaller and might work even better. Check 'em out at http://brunton.com/catalog.php?cat=8 

Best of luck in the coming apocalypse!

Sam Rogers
One Mouth Band

Newest CD: www.OrganicHumanMusic.com
Website: www.OneMouthBand.com
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------=_Part_75280_27574527.1216662662060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 17:55:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC57C3BEAF; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002301c8eb5a$fdb8f480$6400a8c0@customer3530f5> From: "Ian Popperwell" To: References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <001801c8eb43$9e6fea90$db4fbfb0$@com> Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:55:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8EB63.5F6A49B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <7_tR2.A.dzD.i2MhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:55:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8EB63.5F6A49B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The words "shutting the stable door" and "horses bolting" come to = mind... Why wait for things to completely fuck up then complain, surely = now is the time to be acting(?) (I know you may well be doing this = too!). I don't think that I could be without music for any time, it sustains = everything else I do. I'm certainly not getting rid of my saxophones or flute! Ian. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Raul Bonell=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? i would leave music for some time and enroll in some kind of = resistence to destroy all those in the establishment/government who = drove us into this catatrophic situation... i've learnt that from = computer games ;-) ... then afterwards we all could waste energy as we = do!. cheers, raul=20 2008/7/21 Qua Veda : Just watch out for the zombies =85 ahhhh! From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:56 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: What would loopers do without power? So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the = next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly = scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind = power, and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of = the question. What would you do? Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system? Just to = make it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a = solar powered system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and = RC-2? I think it would be fun to create such a system. Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also a = generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic = items? Imagine packing your bike around to play a gig. :) =20 Kris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1563 - Release Date: = 7/20/2008 12:59 PM --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8EB63.5F6A49B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The words "shutting the stable door" and "horses = bolting" come=20 to mind... Why wait for things to completely fuck up then complain, = surely now=20 is the time to be acting(?) (I know you may well be doing this=20 too!).
 
I don't think that I could be without music for any = time, it=20 sustains everything else I do.
 
I'm certainly not getting rid of my saxophones or=20 flute!
 
Ian.
 
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i would leave music for some time and enroll in some = kind of=20 resistence to destroy all those in the establishment/government who = drove us=20 into this catatrophic situation... i've learnt that from computer = games ;-)=20  ... then afterwards we all could waste energy as we do!.

cheers,
raul 

2008/7/21 Qua Veda <qua@oregon.com>:

Just watch out = for the=20 zombies =85 ahhhh!

 

From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:56 AM


To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:=20 What would loopers do without power?

 

So, let's say hypothetically a = major=20 catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became = non-existent=20 (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely = on=20 solar panels and wind power, and powering an amp and = looper was a=20 complete luxury and out of the question.


What would you = do?

 

Second question: Has anyone = created a solar=20 powered system?  Just to make it simple, what would it take, = and how=20 much would it cost to make a solar powered system right now that = would power=20 my Roland Microcube and RC-2?  I think it would be fun to = create such a=20 system.

 

Or, does anyone have one of those = stationary bicycles that is also a generator? Can you pedal fast = enough to=20 power these two electronic items? Imagine packing your bike around = to play a=20 gig. :) 

 

Kris

 

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TPO=20 at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C8EB63.5F6A49B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 18:01:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B9313BEC2; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=50B8SDLMYJfTMP4rnj5qjSyKY5tXQZhK9757S7AQ8ZA=; b=DKrSKkpoikwxjyfmo3vdWJK/3hQiiu8T0cPsrcn6rrBAJiL6k5TlUBtc45M52FAR4J prT9hup4qo/3asHNBe0u82OaGikjZPOpX1MmpMyEE4mOyst/GslKxSE4sefD3ZMAvh3g NTST9K6Wmp/pIJOAGsdl0YntHiFni8hqusUTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=H8WekXsfjGN5aj+Ezh+O0+jdcIioCh5RATGts4fnaUq1Bs7DvBbnKficEwojv36/z5 emPeu4n9OpphIEh1ZxkwtLgXhZADLwbHJzFJbBaqGWNh2NVHeKkqpVV5GXuespqg8m5u uc/C8IOoZtNcYbMfyLllYIvgb76327QKZyc0U= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:01:29 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_103560_32417512.1216663289061" References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: <4-fFYB.A.K9D.77MhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:01:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_103560_32417512.1216663289061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well, if it came to that, I doubt I'd be thinking about my looping rig. :) But, there's always this: http://www.solar4power.com/solar-power-devices.html A friend of my mom lives so far out in WV that he had to go solar or pay about $20,000 to have power run to his house. He runs his whole house and recording studio off his solar system. What would I do? Acoustic guitar. No looping or power. :) On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 > decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For > example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and > powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question. > > What would you do? > > Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system? Just to make > it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a solar > powered system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and RC-2? I > think it would be fun to create such a system. > > Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also a > generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic items? > Imagine packing your bike around to play a gig. :) > > Kris > > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_103560_32417512.1216663289061 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Well, if it came to that, I doubt I'd be thinking about my looping rig. :)  But, there's always this:
 
 
A friend of my mom lives so far out in WV that he had to go solar or pay about $20,000 to have power run to his house.  He runs his whole house and recording studio off his solar system. 
 
What would I do?  Acoustic guitar.  No looping or power.  :)

 
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question.

What would you do?
 
Second question: Has anyone created a solar powered system?  Just to make it simple, what would it take, and how much would it cost to make a solar powered system right now that would power my Roland Microcube and RC-2?  I think it would be fun to create such a system.
 
Or, does anyone have one of those stationary bicycles that is also a generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power these two electronic items? Imagine packing your bike around to play a gig. :) 
 
Kris
 



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------=_Part_103560_32417512.1216663289061-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 18:03:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DAEB3BEB2; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4884CF6A.6090000@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:03:22 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? References: <89a806470807211051t7bc13f46od4c5c0a25766c6e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <89a806470807211051t7bc13f46od4c5c0a25766c6e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:03:25 +0000 (UTC) awesome, Sam! Funnily enough, the people I'm staying with in Toronto told me about this band, who do completely bike-powered tours - transportation and power. They just put on the Bicycle Music Festival, which used zero grid power. http://www.shakeyourpeace.com/news.htm I'm going to be making music off the grid myself before too long, the house we're building in Oaxaca is all solar-powered. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > As a 100% Organic Human Music act doing more eco-events, I have a > gridless rig that I enjoy taking to places like Burning Man. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 18:07:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B17943BECD; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=o5PgTOFzpTwAZKStsY9ElLJCnu5ZBsfN7RNPzuWMk8U/KOU4gPr/7v9lC/ZfCgfUSwGf+7eIJs7tzaEhD/9sjYmOMRZr4B1PEUUne3u9XOVlJp6D9KhSlCHOuMdA4jvc3MlV5rkVkfllbD/ZxzE2CjqFNQC/7yOCKDxhcYngAw8=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:07:22 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Reply-To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com Subject: gig review - Daryl Shawn with Ted Harms in Toronto, Sunday To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-447327384-1216663642=:10890" Message-ID: <303753.10890.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:07:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-447327384-1216663642=:10890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sunday was my turn to ride on the Daryl Shawn 2008 N. American tour train a= s it hit Toronto. =A0 Daryl and I got together a few hours before the show for a quick feeling-ou= t session and I think things went swimmingly.=A0 I brought my double bass, = a dl4, a distortion box, and two delay/pitch shifters.=A0 Daryl had his tra= vel guitar, his double four-track set-up and a few other goodies. =A0 The venue will be generously described as a hole in the wall as it was barl= ey twelve feet across with a=A0semi-circular stage in the middle of one wal= l. But it was long and, I think, there were about 50 people at the peak. =A0=20 The evening was the Bread Cabaret (the venue=A0was=A0Bread'n'Circus)=A0orga= nized by Lisa Pijuan-Nomura.=A0 First up was a duo that was sampling and gl= itching sounds (couldn't tell what program=A0 they were using on the laptop= ) made by using and hitting an espresso machine.=A0 Then a solo dancer danc= ing to some salsa, followed by a pretty funny faux-Miss America contestant,= following by another dancer (this time dancing to some pretty cool sparse = electronica), followed by a girl with an acoustic guitar doing satirical fo= lk songs poking fun at folkies, boyfriends, and racist gramma's. =A0 Then a short break and then Daryl and I were on. =A0 Daryl did two solo bits and then invited me up and we managed to unleash so= me wild'n'woooly improv on the crowd=A0but still managed to keep things kin= da mellow.=A0 After a tune or two, we were joined by two dancers which adde= d quite a bit to what we played. =A0 The crowd was appreciative and almost rawkus.=A0 At one point, Daryl did a = very swift eject, flip, and replace a cassette in a single motion and a gas= p went up from the crowd... =A0 Daryl's a wonderful and open-eared player.=A0 If I could swing it, I'd foll= ow him to Montreal for his gig there on Tuesday night. ;-) =A0 =A0 ted Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog =0A=0A=0A --0-447327384-1216663642=:10890 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Sunday was my turn to ride on the Daryl Shawn 2008 N. American tour train as it hit Toronto.

 

Daryl and I got together a few hours before the show for a quick feeling-out session and I think things went swimmingly.  I brought my double bass, a dl4, a distortion box, and two delay/pitch shifters.  Daryl had his travel guitar, his double four-track set-up and a few other goodies.

 

The venue will be generously described as a hole in the wall as it was barley twelve feet across with a semi-circular stage in the middle of one wall. But it was long and, I think, there were about 50 people at the peak.
 
The evening was the Bread Cabaret (the venue was Bread'n'Circus) organized by Lisa Pijuan-Nomura.  First up was a duo that was sampling and glitching sounds (couldn't tell what program  they were using on the laptop) made by using and hitting an espresso machine.  Then a solo dancer dancing to some salsa, followed by a pretty funny faux-Miss America contestant, following by another dancer (this time dancing to some pretty cool sparse electronica), followed by a girl with an acoustic guitar doing satirical folk songs poking fun at folkies, boyfriends, and racist gramma's.

 

Then a short break and then Daryl and I were on.

 

Daryl did two solo bits and then invited me up and we managed to unleash some wild'n'woooly improv on the crowd but still managed to keep things kinda mellow.  After a tune or two, we were joined by two dancers which added quite a bit to what we played.

 

The crowd was appreciative and almost rawkus.  At one point, Daryl did a very swift eject, flip, and replace a cassette in a single motion and a gasp went up from the crowd...

 

Daryl's a wonderful and open-eared player.  If I could swing it, I'd follow him to Montreal for his gig there on Tuesday night. ;-)

 

 

ted

Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog


--0-447327384-1216663642=:10890-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 19:08:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E54CF3BEAF; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ymJdudXgykaz3D81iRWJQM8iPCj0x8roIp2OSwKGZ+Y=; b=NIbjkOPw+a7ynhqjnymclTc4gX+C223mSeVHIWVA6drh5/OkK/u6yxwMX4ca9IGwLD FmbstT8IPCnsz5Pkz4caX96VzHKUM8wGvo6fMzz6ENRKmeNyYx1q0XrLwqEQ5jy41No5 vBsTA6czez+wwHaJbi+d9dbISEBBx9nc3LOYE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=x6NAYuyxiPx65CdSH1hnPsWhJf3smytDVNGJWbllRTAaNkinFRt8ea/mUrKS/EJ7BU CiSlnyilD8Q2wstpRxcF7ztibUEj1JRPO2iEAbY5YNxGh79L8XR338Rhp39wLgbHS1G3 NyCO8aomVhSLPtOKk71Nv+uHN9InfIUY8K+yw= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:08:52 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Last week I was put into a situation where a bunch of musicians didn't show up for a gig I was working at, and I was required to perform unexpectedly, without any of my instruments. I managed to find a few supplies in the back room - a hammer, rope, wrenches, tape measure, screws and a glass jar. By myself this would've been disastrous, but thankfully the one other musician on stage was handy with a cassette dictaphone. So it actually sounded pretty cool. But to answer your question, if there was no more power, and I still had time for music between foraging for food, making new loinclothes and fending off attackers a big rock.... I'd probably go acoustic and never look back. I think it's a healthy thing to be challenged occasionally. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 > decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For > example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and > powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question. > What would you do? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 19:11:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA26D3BEAF; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4884DF57.7020705@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:11:19 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Whoa. Way to rise to the challenge. Who's my fellow dictaphonist?? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Last week I was put into a situation where a bunch of musicians didn't > show up for a gig I was working at, and I was required to perform > unexpectedly, without any of my instruments. I managed to find a few > supplies in the back room - a hammer, rope, wrenches, tape measure, > screws and a glass jar. By myself this would've been disastrous, but > thankfully the one other musician on stage was handy with a cassette > dictaphone. So it actually sounded pretty cool. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 19:17:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CB6F3BEC0; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4884E0B7.3080604@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:17:11 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: gig review - Daryl Shawn with Ted Harms in Toronto, Sunday References: <303753.10890.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <303753.10890.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:17:13 +0000 (UTC) thanks for writing the review Ted! It was fantastic to meet and play with you. Somehow we have managed to install a Good People filter on membership in the LD community, it's been so great to hook up with these people I know only electronically. I felt great about the show. The crowd was not necessarily one accustomed to seeing improvised music, but I think we won them over, I didn't see people leaving which is the ultimate test. And having improvising dancers involved for part of the set was really exciting, it certainly is a way to add visual interest and it was great to play off them. Since gear minutiae is high currency on this list, I did want to offer a mild correction, I was using a single four-track with a dictating machine in the effects loop, with a punch-in pedal and the dictaphone backspace pedal to control 'em. I do have a backup four-tracker along, a little Fostex (battery-powered! I'll be using Sam's portable solar ideas not too long in our blissful future...) which I haven't had to break out yet. I'm LOVING the Traveler Guitar nylon-string (the older Escape model), it has such nice intonation in the high frets and people seem to be fascinated by the look. So far I've been using it exclusively on all the looping gigs. thanks again for making the drive out to meet up and play, it was a grand pleasure. cheers, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > Sunday was my turn to ride on the Daryl Shawn 2008 N. American tour > train as it hit Toronto. > > Daryl and I got together a few hours before the show for a quick > feeling-out session and I think things went swimmingly. I brought my > double bass, a dl4, a distortion box, and two delay/pitch shifters. > Daryl had his travel guitar, his double four-track set-up and a few > other goodies. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 19:33:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F81E3BEB9; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: 17N2JOMVM1l21hbJ_51Bo3haLC1z9bDkutkZCmDpedv7cksCVENqlauf1HzxHReLsOHlekn1JAMmEGMNychnO1QosPd2gawjvQ-- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:33:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Wegmann Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <260555.85988.qm@web84104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Does he loop? I live in Charleston, WV and loop daily! Peace, Weg --- Tony K wrote: > Well, if it came to that, I doubt I'd be thinking > about my looping rig. :) > But, there's always this: > > http://www.solar4power.com/solar-power-devices.html > > A friend of my mom lives so far out in WV that he > had to go solar or pay > about $20,000 to have power run to his house. He > runs his whole house and > recording studio off his solar system. > > What would I do? Acoustic guitar. No looping or > power. :) > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Krispen Hartung > > wrote: > > > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe > occurred in the next 2-3 > > decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) > or highly scarce. For > > example, suppose we all had to rely on solar > panels and wind power, and > > powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury > and out of the question. > > > > What would you do? > > > > Second question: Has anyone created a solar > powered system? Just to make > > it simple, what would it take, and how much would > it cost to make a solar > > powered system right now that would power my > Roland Microcube and RC-2? I > > think it would be fun to create such a system. > > > > Or, does anyone have one of those stationary > bicycles that is also a > > generator? Can you pedal fast enough to power > these two electronic items? > > Imagine packing your bike around to play a gig. :) > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > My URL http://www.myspace.com/noyestheater My Blog URL http://blog.myspace.com/noyestheater From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 19:54:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 603323BEB2; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=WQEfBUEcAVbe/f7tDZNI5kHUXspu72B7x8Lj0Nv2aTnqMT24eSe1fwq9CdbDb6aUi5ysbTeki4s2nsX26r+wFwZzqOflOLLInpvEUEHJ/8LqiTeGuLtUpL+UhRXvkCYiZ9fqBwSdjHfoNEqqOJpKpMkdg1u7dFF18JMsR+07eRk=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:54:23 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: More on Pretec CFCs and the Tima Tec Site To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-129166013-1216670063=:43913" Message-ID: <278724.43913.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:54:25 +0000 (UTC) --0-129166013-1216670063=:43913 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi again all, Today, I talked with Bruce, who works for Tima Tec, the site I sent out the email about initially on the Repeater Users list a couple weeks ago, and the one Fro had mentioned last week. Turns out, they actually still do have 256 MB and 512 MB Pretec CFCs left. And, they know about the Repeater (and our need for the Hitachi chip)--he specifically asked me if I was buying CFCs for it! [Apparently, we are like the other people left who are still trying to find cards like these and looking for less than 1 GB cards.] Anyhow, the deal is, they have 7 of the 512 CFCs left--after this, they are out of stock (gulp, forever). They also still have some 256 MB cards in stock as well, I think he said they have something like 25 or so left. Same deal as with the 512 MB cards though, what they have left is what they have left, and once they are gone, they're gone. Tina Tec's product numbers are slightly different that how they showed up on the Pretec Site initially, and how the Jactron site has them listed. For the 512 MB card, the part number they use is CHF512-CP. For the 256 MB card, the part number is CFH-256-CP. To order my cards, I first emailed and then actually placed my order over the phone. Personally, I found the easiest way to do it, but I'm not quite as Web site friendly as a user ... Contact info: Phone number: 1 (902) 475-3340 [Monday through Friday, from 9:00am - 5:00pm Eastern Standard Time] Web site: http://www.timatech.com/orderinginfo.php email: sales@timatech.com Best, David --0-129166013-1216670063=:43913 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi again all,

Today, I talked= with Bruce, who works for Tima Tec, the site I sent out the email about in= itially on the Repeater Users list a couple weeks ago, and the one Fro had = mentioned last week.

Turns out, they actually stil= l do have 256 MB and 512 MB Pretec CFCs left. And, they know about the Repe= ater (and our need for the Hitachi chip)--he specifically asked me if I was= buying CFCs for it! [Apparently, we are like the other people left who are= still trying to find cards like these and looking for less than 1 GB cards= .]=A0

Anyhow, the deal is, they have 7 of the 512 = CFCs left--after this, they are out of stock (gulp, forever).
They also still have some 256 MB cards in stock as well, =A0I think he said they have something like 25 or so left. Same deal as with th= e 512 MB cards though, what they have left is what they have left, and once= they are gone, they're gone.

Tina Tec's product numbers = are slightly different that how they showed up on the Pretec Site initially= , and how the Jactron site has them listed.

For the 512 MB card, the part number t= hey use is CHF512-CP. For the 256 MB card, the part number is CFH-256-CP.

To order my cards, I first emailed an= d then actually placed my order over the phone. Personally, I found the eas= iest way to do it, but I'm not quite as Web site friendly as a user ...

Contact info:

= Phone number: 1 (902) 475-3340 [Monday through Friday, from 9:00am - 5:00pm= Eastern Standard Time]
Web site:=A0http://www.timatech.com/orderingi= nfo.php
email:=A0sales@timatech.com

Best,=

David

=A0

=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-129166013-1216670063=:43913-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 20:10:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94D953BEBA; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:10:22 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <06b301c8eb38$6a615a00$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <20080721201022.161920@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <019c01c8e6f8$04c5aa00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen><20080716115622.293210@gmx.net> <20080717125403.kzf25fruo4k4sgws@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <04e401c8e845$364ccf10$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <48804644.8080300@tiscali.co.uk> <064401c8ead0$69c2cb50$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20080721115401.137560@gmx.net> <06b301c8eb38$6a615a00$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: OT: Hey Loopers< MF is blowing out Mackie SRM 350 p.a.portable PA speakers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+jrhAHZaGjWp2gn6GVnfa4rtLcVduXjQ8JZHq3c5 RLPNylEmuvu+Ipr0vMU6f1n5nYqsoeu5Vt2g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: Gdu3fCJ3TXsuTtp/mmU5+BdCRzdyMkNZ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kris > The FBTs are the only ones I haven't heard. I think there is a store here > in > Boise that carries them. Are they from Italy as well? Yes, that's right. They come from Italy. http://www.fbt.it/intranet/Inglese/pae/speaker/FBTMaxX/index.asp I didn't know them either until I read this review (tools4music PDF "Little Loudmakers"): http://www.tandemsales.net/links.htm Here is a comparison of FBT Maxx 4a with Mackie 450s (forum): http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=832463 As I said, to me it's pretty much a draw between the FBT and RCF. The built-in 3-band EQ made me decide for the FBTs (quite handy when you have a minimal setup). Have fun testing :) Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 20:17:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE66E3BEAE; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 331 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:17:03 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=E8a_rvqIqD8A:10 a=1EiEg-ybx2oA:10 a=xn0VcL4H-yyLd_7LBvgA:9 a=E4fNUMJJKKZpqR4z9Z4A:9 a=OhmOZcxzBvvNBBS5kREA:7 a=fmROGyudSOTO-3BNijULLCnJB3UA:4 a=MxZ3bB5I4kYA:10 From: cburke55@comcast.net (Christophe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:11:30 +0000 Message-Id: <072120082011.15547.4884ED7200062B6F00003CBB2216566276CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: Y2J1cmtlNTVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:17:03 +0000 (UTC) > What would you do? I can picture a mutant composed of a glass armonica with a "sequencer" that mechanically presses on the glass discs, programmed with punch cards like a Jacquard loom. All run by water power, of course! Might take some time to put together, but post apocalypse there should be plenty of that! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 20:28:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34AF23BEB2; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:27:58 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <20080721202758.319550@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19OnUsnBQxOYX5IEIELz2e7x3IuNrtv+Qom/LbKKx XIqQ5Y93CG4qM1XjA4y5YdqT0VJWBKytW7fg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: esOzf7oFbGInUNBtlmVnqFxvcmZ1Zpz2 Resent-Message-ID: <1_FJO.A.74G.PFPhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:59 +0000 (UTC) *LOL* Just thought about the exact same thing 3 days ago... ;-)) Well, let's see... here are some scenarios: A.) Forseeing this event, I'd buy a stock of 9V + AA batteries that would last until 2080. Then I would loop on my RC-2 + Zoom G2.1u + Roland MicroCube :-) B.) Due to a lack of iPods, DJs, discos, CDs we'd be all *RICH* and in demand as performing artists ;-) C.) I'd loop by myself without gear - like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV1SVBQaoCM "I'm my own walkman...." :-)) D.) Since there is no TV,Internet,Movies, I'd sit with a bunch of people around a fire and clap/drum/sing circle songs - just like our tribal ancestors did thousands of years ago... E.) Loopers' Delight would come to an end and I'd miss you folks! ;-) great post, Kris! *ROTF* Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 21:18:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55E143BE95; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 740548.6653.bm@omp207.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=euPxBXLWCdXn8E1cYEzLwNaHfDduhK5yB4DE7TXe12BtOFlohRmhQA4bT1P6gKK1MjE/1QWG73H8L+zr+ymK6wz+sHJzhKWXuL9XSUKzInKCDk2CpDa4WlOWFo1ggWrorWRQV3BbffLHS2pek363UP1s9m702yJFQ59QdoisTdM=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:18:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <499185.36527.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3mO-pC.A.S5H.50PhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Coincidentally, I thought a lot about this over the past weekend while I was supposed to be completely overhauling my looping rig* but while some hellacious thunderstorms kept us without power for all of Friday night and part of Sunday night. Ecopolitical musings aside, I ended up playing a little acoustic and drinking a lot of wine. Then I had fun fiddling with a battery-operated shortwave radio for a while until I fell asleep. -t- *in preparation for the August 2nd show in Somerville, MA with Chinapainting, Dennis Moser and Rob Byrd. http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > From: Krispen Hartung > Subject: What would loopers do without power? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 9:56 AM > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe > occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became > non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, > suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, > and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and > out of the question. > > What would you do? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 21:20:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 274AD3BEB2; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=YdhokGVEFG8R3yPJ0+4RgD8j3jStgtWtJoeAmw8vXCSje6tg8cl7fnTbI5i2CV3NviezTR6GEKUvO7h97JYF6QmdRcnYD37LuaA5I5n8/xGnZHWoZmiv+BwlgYnj/FsUopRJUyhEUMJG+yCvrCdI9VUYsCuXYn1CwBaBGPyT9o0=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <813529.28505.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:20:15 +0000 (UTC) funny that this subject pops up now,i just played a gig on saturday at a private party out in the forest, everything beautiful setup with tents,beer kegs,great food a refigerator,huge fireplace and a small stage for me to sing with my acoustic and my edp looper, but right at the beginning of the second set "pow" light out!everything was running on power generators and it took about 10 minutes to get it back runing.I had built a percussive loop and was singing the first verse as this happen but i just went on singing and people cheered cause they could still hear me and thats when i realized the beauty and power of an acoustic instrument! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Matt Davignon wrote: > From: Matt Davignon > Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 12:08 PM > Last week I was put into a situation where a bunch of > musicians didn't > show up for a gig I was working at, and I was required to > perform > unexpectedly, without any of my instruments. I managed to > find a few > supplies in the back room - a hammer, rope, wrenches, tape > measure, > screws and a glass jar. By myself this would've been > disastrous, but > thankfully the one other musician on stage was handy with a > cassette > dictaphone. So it actually sounded pretty cool. > > But to answer your question, if there was no more power, > and I still > had time for music between foraging for food, making new > loinclothes > and fending off attackers a big rock.... > > I'd probably go acoustic and never look back. I think > it's a healthy > thing to be challenged occasionally. > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung > wrote: > > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe > occurred in the next 2-3 > > decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or > highly scarce. For > > example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels > and wind power, and > > powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and > out of the question. > > What would you do? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 21:20:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 750B03BEBA; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=Q6UhhNkHtXJgh6xM7HxKSvUVxwyyBwV1hG+xB1aysHf1CQEyGab4gdprdSg+xlXwg0waYfoWA/yXuebBBUFjK5L7O5H413IeZzhgVNZ+D2+9WwTT8susCOVq+vF+SEaz9LkDIcBU99xq+pIWy3koVzrl2dV3AgpkErhIv6i1r3Y= ; X-YMail-OSG: oGOSfZYVM1n57bDjE.oqw3yOBYBRGql4KhysHYUbpQmT8jiZPkDBcOwxh6xOeZIODjSskU5DKU1dlMNckdqtdEcI2jYdxtyKw9iv1eOGy8599cBZmEOnYkt5qMZNLHM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--2665637 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Facebook Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:20:19 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:20:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--2665637 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Anyone else on Facebook??? http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s any looping groups???? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-2--2665637 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Anyone else on Facebook???


any looping = groups????


Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




= --Apple-Mail-2--2665637-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 21:22:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5F9E3BEA6; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zdEtSRocWx/00gaFl6BXZOnoyPQALG8S0TSgurxAWuU=; b=jHg4/ddGwuYJgbJ6JXV/TtsuiEBxwq1r0vddhFGS/bSE1GQ3s2ghf4zq99w0HgsRaZ mpjMCYISiPKragnc40HLfgtdxKbGV/i0xND+OqS41OB9Y8ANzZxIkiUSUFkFzt8C/ZX4 JVYuW36NcB9pAwOVFzLsV1sFQug42uhrfcVIc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=cKGaYG5v+54Hnveg1PgU4bFC3dSfRKMkfDqAIzTJOzkRibwZuzidbw6R8lnzL/nspu w1kclh17DKGEUi0OnslLY54vI5wSyI5390bY8CngmE5pX4b/G83fKKugR17Y6VpLSuSi G71JJgsGOmLcI12S8RFpnpJTA4lGvlsq9lX6o= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:22:00 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Facebook In-Reply-To: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Haven't seen any looping groups, but yes, some of us are already there, Matt. Dennis On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > > Anyone else on Facebook??? > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s > any looping groups???? > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 21:27:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FF163BEB2; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=ho+VqRNHTZ8Mhs+F+m4hgwhUCs5Pt9JPEgaG6IjYZSV/vdNklfGc/7ItN3SpQGfTCcJW9ZQZ70PXYaIXisLSZKshabNSP6415P+yiIxWeki/hM2ob+2n5gI5UDg2AROvv191W3NZT2za3MibG7cdAD6bRkJJKtyjo7dBVm70EZ0= ; X-YMail-OSG: p_cNYWgVM1lCPTRz.8qF_OicUKKmqejBdK9WabN2zxBNL.rDhij.q0I2_YS6t7nAxgVV8gk1fKT_sgaPvUm7badTCaCzY7LWMltJX0ShA3rPkteR7EgGLbmRD5E4kLo- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--2253725 Message-Id: <1AF610C7-EAF5-4A88-A6BD-268CB4E3F6C2@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Facebook Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:27:11 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:27:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--2253725 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Cool man = I'll try and find you!!! Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 21 Jul 2008, at 22:22, Dennis Moser wrote: > Haven't seen any looping groups, but yes, some of us are already > there, Matt. > > Dennis > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Matt Stevens > wrote: >> >> Anyone else on Facebook??? >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s >> any looping groups???? >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> > --Apple-Mail-3--2253725 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Cool man =3D I'll try and find you!!!

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 21 Jul 2008, = at 22:22, Dennis Moser wrote:

Haven't seen any looping groups, but yes, some of us = are already there, Matt.

Dennis

On Mon, = Jul 21, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Matt Stevens

Anyone = else on Facebook???
any looping groups????

Matt = Stevens






= --Apple-Mail-3--2253725-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 22:58:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 670363BEAF; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=eqGLiJ6lZH7lzroTR/XXVMBrpu9jS9HgLYLPADluvEc=; b=n63AAqxvwXPFka7fItL6J9w/K2hfMTw+nd/lef/AYKBEoroQsPweUHZXXfgp34unZ2 uMLxqcZkPDko2gypxshI/0jvf6y9X0Z9Y0k8pj4IXPz7FRCbau/Q4/WBJ1FCpGDR6e3u 12jwhRV7VEZ7WWWUQN1n4bm6klkylBN8snE8Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=dPPtEUEeTlkO6oceghTKUivBV0Kr60HEpCyLWEC3RD5HyvEgaD/7zN9EI188eafGLh 8WvlBjG/OMxuBYMEcFCOW2hcdC/Vq8wI2/+nJzeinflYAY5PDineGMhaeRMUASpD+B15 YWXzpSfu2RDSDIlXrvBBj5n2JD6TLlJVZD4zQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:58:34 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <4884DF57.7020705@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4884DF57.7020705@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:58:39 +0000 (UTC) A guy named Andrew Kaluzynski http://www.myspace.com/kaltechmusic Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Daryl Shawn was all: > Whoa. Way to rise to the challenge. > > Who's my fellow dictaphonist?? Beforeward, I went: >> ...but >> thankfully the one other musician on stage was handy with a cassette >> dictaphone. So it actually sounded pretty cool. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 23:23:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 352893BEBE; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=43mF+Q2dowBrqVWE518qZ68iK8z+Edlfmv0/2aQnzCWkS0Cjx+/XJnMbGingAnYt6bxAZdEyVEwdd7+vNu1ePjQC72YGlmrW0gyoupeUiwdNhm+A3hp2bk+TX1Yi0iyU9xEvMe0kKVrL8XvK9gGJMUvq69GnTMs0lBnMUZbk8GI=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:23:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: More on Repeater and San Disc Ultra II CFCs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-608933597-1216682601=:38845" Message-ID: <47328.38845.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:23:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-608933597-1216682601=:38845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi again all, Today, got a second 512MB SanDisk Ultra II CFC via a second ebay seller. Same deal as the first one I reported out on last week... Put it into the Repeater and formatted it. Tried some looping. It will record 4 mono loops and will reverse. However, as with the other one I reported on last week, it will NOT record in stereo going forwards, nor will it record in stereo going in reverse. I didn't try anything else, as once I'd determined I was getting slow CFC error messages doing stereo recording, I stopped my testing. (I need CFCs that can handle stereo recording and stereo overdub into reverse, so these aren't going to work out for me). So, my experiences with 512MB--they don't work (unless all you need is mono 4 track recording). Best, David --0-608933597-1216682601=:38845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi again all,

Today, got a se= cond 512MB SanDisk Ultra II CFC via a second ebay seller.=A0

=
Same deal as the first one I reported out on last week...
<= div>
Put it into the Repeater and formatted it. Tried some lo= oping.

It will record 4 mono loops and will revers= e.=A0

However, as with the other one I reported on= last week, it will NOT record in stereo going forwards, nor will it record= in stereo going in reverse.

I didn't try anything= else, as once I'd determined I was getting slow CFC error messages doing s= tereo recording, I stopped my testing. (I need CFCs that can handle stereo = recording and stereo overdub into reverse, so these aren't going to work out for me).

So, my experiences with 512MB--they = don't work (unless all you need is mono 4 track recording).

<= /div>
Best,

David

=0A=0A --0-608933597-1216682601=:38845-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 21 23:43:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EBB53BEC0; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:34:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Facebook Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-995438695==_ma============" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:43:23 +0000 (UTC) --============_-995438695==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 10:20 PM +0100 7/21/08, Matt Stevens wrote: >Anyone else on Facebook??? > >http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s I'm there. /davidgans >any looping groups???? Let's start one! -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.fickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --============_-995438695==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Facebook
At 10:20 PM +0100 7/21/08, Matt Stevens wrote:
Anyone else on Facebook???

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s

I'm there.  /davidgans




any looping groups????

Let's start one!



--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dgans.com
Photos: http://www.fickr.com/photos/dgans
Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans

--============_-995438695==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 00:21:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B96B3BECC; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=OYZDtjFKeC6BoeTJZ8hPmHFc0ihLqgJRLE1fdhMn4qE=; b=sXN/XDPN2nH+0/usnWGvPxip8htyCs4WUpuLBaA4MhdXX769g8E/P+sB5E+YGxUSFW aTI2S8VRGK4Zl6XFk20FcnnpGk2Tpuk19kosj63Jayzd4qOf4Jhzabs3r9carIPegMeH Z1shGgUENHs67uIS+k7BWaFO8NTWO5qIX793I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=neLb2Gf82msQ6cRo1M/NU7QQNC9kNAOUyZh78S1lGNfPEDX4kUIB+N0O7WWdE2pp5V esOIINTxJ4RhHUsdRrB0JcBZmAvcNxQGiNGxf0VJnaveH26TXwSPbyt3GqDs8aEeSMc8 0NbJKCXAA4mtwfIPXAggW080KBsKBJtNy/iu8= Message-ID: <91d8478b0807211721y73ee3846me07c3f2ea054286@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:21:04 -0400 From: "Jean-Paul De Roover" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Facebook In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_53037_2013217.1216686064723" References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_VkL1C.A.VTB.yfShIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:21:06 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_53037_2013217.1216686064723 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I am also there: Jean-Paul De Roover On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:34 PM, David Gans wrote: > At 10:20 PM +0100 7/21/08, Matt Stevens wrote: > > Anyone else on Facebook??? > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s > > > I'm there. /davidgans > > > > > any looping groups???? > > > Let's start one! > > > > -- > > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.fickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com ------=_Part_53037_2013217.1216686064723 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I am also there:

Jean-Paul De Roover

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:34 PM, David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote:
At 10:20 PM +0100 7/21/08, Matt Stevens wrote:
Anyone else on Facebook???

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s

I'm there.  /davidgans




any looping groups????

Let's start one!



--

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dgans.com
Photos: http://www.fickr.com/photos/dgans
Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans




--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
------=_Part_53037_2013217.1216686064723-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 00:34:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06E163BEAF; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=rnbnaNorN5mPUfvIwJLIUXf6hcpUrNeCeDcGFJ1x+bU=; b=YlHMskp1JilLm1bFPtpE46SgfVplJ6inmWPd4qxc3dC0BALKWYvYXMOyrinEiJuUh2 ySUXjDnBkJ34ZU+NtGte/GxKmKYK6+RFeiIS29bwNcn0X9n7BjXb0Y4QMJs0HNsQiTuU G8Wdc/F7FMmZnbkfPdFkgn01BqbuE49hxeEdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=sw21I4Mh+KWNfCeu8msfSv3e/yugQkRIGOPo1QoZl205MxSHO0FBhGzpYUk9vT7pKA E8se8mpD+qHJ7ayD6EN0U5QeUAV6U8QsS+utuDHrrEl0/0gwDnG/K9vZsUA75GdQvmwY tISZKvQ+ZMVvPPw/21Aflpg20DHcvYrTu5jnU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:34:40 -0700 From: "Michael Billow" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Facebook In-Reply-To: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_86261_24664794.1216686880601" References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:34:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_86261_24664794.1216686880601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey, I'm on Facebook too: Michael Billow On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Anyone else on Facebook??? > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s > > any looping groups???? > > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > ------=_Part_86261_24664794.1216686880601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hey, I'm on Facebook too: Michael Billow

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:

------=_Part_86261_24664794.1216686880601-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 05:03:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA8763BEAF; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <07d401c8ebb8$546871e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <813529.28505.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:03:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Ironically, given my current setup and mindset, if things got that bad in the world, I'm guessing I would be with Per, going acoustic...back to the roots and away from all the products of mass consumerism, etc, that are partially contributing to the way the world is now (whatever that may be, I'm leaving it vague to leave it somewhat un-controversial). These sort of questions make us think who we really are as musicians and what defines us. Are you defined by the technology and looping gear? Can you stand on your own and be yourself with just an acoustic instrument and feel gratified as an artist? Just seed questions, no assumptions here. For me, as much as I rant and rave about the electronics, the fact is that I started on the acoustic nylon string, and I could go back to it at any time if appropriate, and feel at home and at ease with myself. K- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 05:20:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7B433BEAE; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <080101c8ebba$9f432000$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Facebook Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:20:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_07FE_01C8EB88.53E2C7F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:20:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_07FE_01C8EB88.53E2C7F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's mine: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Krispen-Hartung/7650447399 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt Stevens=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 3:20 PM Subject: Facebook Anyone else on Facebook??? http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=3Ds any looping groups???? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com ------=_NextPart_000_07FE_01C8EB88.53E2C7F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here's mine:
 
http://= www.facebook.com/pages/Krispen-Hartung/7650447399
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt Stevens =
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 = 3:20 PM
Subject: Facebook


Anyone else on Facebook???

h= ttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=3Ds

any looping groups????


Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinte= rnet.com




------=_NextPart_000_07FE_01C8EB88.53E2C7F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 05:44:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CE063BEB2; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qXbOOkcEaVHJKB6Nn3w7CMAaSWJBGBJ6PQiHNL7nJcg=; b=J168Vli62Rs9gpzyY+2l1q2BzolPQ1q94JmyaGyPaqz9Tz/cOs9IfUdx0fcvSsH12C paeF7WV9MXvLiQQ1UNcTl3ANedLX98d9B+YSCnJ1g/3GDbXcJSJSZRW0q8VYpV9uso7o I72uFTgy6IFONW9wVKhRs17rTfu/O65PoAGe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=aUfb5uELSvHauue9B9kc7dQ/K2Hn3Y/vRi7pycwdNF0uf6mh3bxvGvjT4NQtV42liH 34EgaKvTILDJrwzkwBiXHy4VrFQjGaOBQfry7qzsU8XOeBYqEmh6qb/s/gCcSJuA7TBa g9brwwaEHOXv405l2Vy633yYoW7CTvRFWJ1tY= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:44:34 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_96496_17183029.1216705474211" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:44:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_96496_17183029.1216705474211 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/7/21 : > i'd go join raul for a political wilding!.....m > > ... and here we go the youngers! thumbs up michael !! raul. > > > > ************** > Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy > Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_96496_17183029.1216705474211 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/7/21 <Nemoguitt@aol.com>:
i'd go join raul for a political wilding!.....m




... and here we go the youngers!
thumbs up michael !!

raul.

 



**************
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TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_96496_17183029.1216705474211-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 05:49:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A8273BEA0; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=uBGTZq4QlLGzwq9zbkVhCYXgtreVQXLpIyn5DPuEzzK1tqMo+SboZ90FOy4qUIZBlFjHQT+fXmrGftagpAY7kL8yhE1D2pVVXc77R7skdSupiKN/mIxzFMYmL36H/kqOt6q2w3gP87ICgMlTaWIS24YVTrNzXFQ1RN80zNLKMzE= ; X-YMail-OSG: ZTBJgvkVM1nCl70ULbqBxgzf0E8xdndg_LxloGiU9VQTEAa2by73l_xLb4LqGe7hnZoYuPTP1n0uwnIByJylDwur1XCIBI_WOKmy05YGbPL_c7bJyzHLXGeBAh_pYeg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 In-Reply-To: <080101c8ebba$9f432000$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> <080101c8ebba$9f432000$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-27861230 Message-Id: <88DB6AA7-1BFD-4276-B3BB-11A7DA3CF528@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Facebook Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:49:05 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:49:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-27861230 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I'm a fan on your page mate Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 22 Jul 2008, at 06:20, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Here's mine: > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Krispen-Hartung/7650447399 > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matt Stevens > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 3:20 PM > Subject: Facebook > > > Anyone else on Facebook??? > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s > > any looping groups???? > > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > --Apple-Mail-4-27861230 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm a fan on your page mate= --Apple-Mail-4-27861230-- From info@kachman4money.com Tue Jul 22 07:08:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 21019 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:08:43 UTC Received: from bos-dom-zbox2.bos.lycos.com (bos-dom-zbox2.bos.lycos.com [209.202.224.152]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E003BE9E; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bos-dom-zbox2.bos.lycos.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3814D2DCD4A; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:54:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Score: 13.334 X-Spam-Level: ************* X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=13.334 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6 tests=[ADVANCE_FEE_2=1.234, ADVANCE_FEE_3=1.432, ADVANCE_FEE_4=0.639, ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=-4.234, BAYES_50=0.001, DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12=1.897, DEAR_FRIEND=2.699, DNS_FROM_DOB=0.732, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.116, FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML=0.001, FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MILLION_USD=1.528, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, MSOE_MID_WRONG_CASE=0.82, RCVD_IN_DOB=1.103, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=2.077, US_DOLLARS_3=0.63] Received: from bos-dom-zbox2.bos.lycos.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bos-dom-zbox2.bos.lycos.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cyENGW0C4NMD; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from User (ml82.128.11.35.multilinks.com [82.128.11.35]) (Authenticated sender: info@kachman4money.com) by bos-dom-zbox2.bos.lycos.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26CE2D9E94; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Morris Ronald Geoffrey John" Subject: MUTUAL NOTIFICATION FROM MORRIS RONALD GEOFFREY JOHN. Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:17:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20080721171425.F26CE2D9E94@bos-dom-zbox2.bos.lycos.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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There is US$500,000,000.00 (Five Hundred Million United States Dollars) in the said account but we can keep our deal as low as $20,000 and this will run on a number of installments spreading over quite a period of time.
 
Following the execution of Saddam Hussein and current confiscation of his assets and properties, the said bank is about sitting on this money because the account is coded. So, this is the right time to cash into this opportunity. I am contacting you to be the receiving agent at an agreed percentage or sharing ratio to be governed by a written agreement between us. I do not want to be greedy about this and I do not mind equal sharing so long as you will be sincere in terms of accountability and assurance of my security whenever we are meeting in your country.
 
On a final note, I wish to state here that for security reasons I would not be giving you the entire details of this deal until I know your position. Therefore, I shall upon your response give you more detailed explanation/clarifications on this deal. Upon your response, I will also give you my contact address, my phone numbers, my winning strategies as well as why I am so sure of being successful in the deal. The sooner we commence this deal the better. So, I would look for someone else to work with if I do not have your response within the next few days.
 
Please, send the following details to email address: morrisrgjohn@uku.co.uk
 
Name:
E-mail address:
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Regards,
Morris Ronald Geoffrey John.
 
 
 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 07:11:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E43A3BEBA; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007101c8ebca$1b41d700$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: More on Repeater and San Disc Ultra II CFCs Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:11:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <8RP5zC.A.joG.FgYhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:11:01 +0000 (UTC) David wrote about his inability to record in stereo with a 512 mg Sans Disk card "So, my experiences with 512MB--they don't work (unless all you need is mono 4 track recording)." Hey David, Here's a situation where it's good to do a little bit of research in the archives, sometimes before purchasing stuff you aren't sure about. I think we ascertained that 512 MB cards don't work with the Repeater a long, long time ago. I, at least, have known that for a long time and I'm pretty sure I read it at Loopers Delight intitially. There's also a Repeaters user group at Yahoo still, where they have discussed stuff like this. Good luck finding a 256 MB card which will work if you get the right one. Back in the day, several years ago, we figured out that Simple Tech made the best cards for this. My brother is much more of an expert on the Repeater than I am, though. You might ask him. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 07:58:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8BC13BEB6; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: syncing an EDP to an RC-50 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:58:21 +0200 Message-ID: <006c01c8ebd0$b64be050$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: Acjr0LVm1dGH/hkDTiqKPv0yXXHomQ== X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.11; VDF: 7.0.5.145) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:58:29 +0000 (UTC) is it possible to time-sync an EDP to an RC-50? I'll do a gig with a percussionist who loops with an RC-50 and it would be cool if I could play basslines and such into my EDP, synced to the rhythms coming from the RC-50. Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 07:58:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B97A23BEC0; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 47226372/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.215.35 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.215.35 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQAAEQuhUhPTtcj/2dsb2JhbAAIrz2DQg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,230,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="47226372" Message-ID: <48859336.5030805@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:58:46 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Facebook OT References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2P9V7.A.BI.3MZhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:58:47 +0000 (UTC) hi Matt, I'm on there as andy butler ..or at least, I think I am Matt Stevens wrote: > > Anyone else on Facebook??? > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s > > any looping groups???? > > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 08:28:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D108E3BEBE; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 24654.59823.bm@omp104.mail.re3.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vQQnhZtA3dWahYE8rosFGbEZr9JwFvoNJZZAO9CoIvZ4YWSMcpBctsQdzqI/iqciueEYxpSswgrpN3iiSWFo04VUsxgaaKuoPSyk+1zPJN9qHkcXdJNASUTHKeOzcBHiFLNU9kqc1VuUNPCacnadRaBRD+EtafBzTbmlCsxQG3A= ; X-YMail-OSG: 2OdN1E0VM1lNfM1lV9MD1C03DothmN5ArDyUQVR.wA4hTq9ZFj5rlPOTVuTgIuVj4XwZ4FIZquK6MpP2bmW4WCSF2jlx2z0xsojY62spig-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <011b01c8ebd4$d0c589a0$1692a8c0@voo.intra> From: "Ben" To: References: <813529.28505.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <07d401c8ebb8$546871e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:27:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <_nKdf.A.Mg.VoZhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I think I would do a "mechanical looper". One solution is to attach objects to the wheels of bikes to strum accoustic guitars or knock on wood pieces. Modifying the overall gear ratio of the chain drive (casette, derailleur,...) and the size of the wheels you could get some fun polyrythms going on... In fact you can create also a "paper loop" with punched holes (piano roll) to feed a mechanical organ (is that the word in english?). Frippertronic the good old way ;-) Ben. PS: sorry if the ideas are not that clear, my knowledge of english is quite limited whan leaving the IT field. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 08:48:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 230353BECF; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=aCxgaPcsmjAeAGE2I57xdCOMmu8Pe64gp98gUHfvAHk=; b=Ufzf/VGjleYwHfYaTz2ZiOOZzsiroazv+FWXeSqdcr6ub255fjwggTYf+47sSs5V17 KjxkOTuqXv1+NgHFDus3iL1rtO7h28omUMId3H2PtyzvLxjfiza6unR2iO8eonQWbE3k XnhEgUniraJYuDSQ1E+4YAAOFfvF3aA2nJlB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=JrN+XWFRTuhoJK3n5Hds+godUAwX7XA1u0b7uaUiwXyf15XAxlGlqbCpXvYJqzwBjX ctQDAXIzcVQXT6zlpDcDwaFQd8Zarb8jpPAH98xsHvFWxs9HGaI5gS0PunLHx0Dy3UWq rBHb8mDdU3zco9KsJgG0+SNGIbHyMfFBwopXo= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:48:24 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Facebook In-Reply-To: <88DB6AA7-1BFD-4276-B3BB-11A7DA3CF528@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> <080101c8ebba$9f432000$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <88DB6AA7-1BFD-4276-B3BB-11A7DA3CF528@btinternet.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 37dd0f761012a2ec Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Darkroom are on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Darkroom/6511547633 cheers, os. 2008/7/22 Matt Stevens : > I'm a fan on your page mate > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > On 22 Jul 2008, at 06:20, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > Here's mine: > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Krispen-Hartung/7650447399 > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matt Stevens > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 3:20 PM > Subject: Facebook > > Anyone else on Facebook??? > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s > any looping groups???? > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 08:48:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD0AA3BEDA; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=J3Qkj+y9/5aMLVTAwvU9mapXH9pvXXrBUQmd0+0v3ig=; b=VdHkCS4V9kmrSHyWtzYgPLAxlnd87IR397D5ZT6Q5VDbZrKEd10bL1l7kfhqH++dIi MOWDHXj6+I/vQrI0Z9VSwhlY77cxZeLAXR0S2P1ltc9mYsYMF97KSvsja/CTiE9tjLjX PFV82P6QHZjkKmGxv4FnZGZCZapfNQ2Ty1LbA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=KDoAKBWOzYe4iXZURVQp31VhVUTZkbNwr1IEPTXqc2RqXfHH0ONFIkTshhaWcRty+6 W7YG7qbWi2BvPITByRimch0Zznm8FL61Z37bEH8C/zswxyQ2ZlTHDiq7Q3i3pwhiAQ2+ NelKOrBLVkIpFC76+HE0c9kHbXhtCEwR0S6dQ= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807220148o1d66e1capfa0e2a62be5c8fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:48:42 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: syncing an EDP to an RC-50 In-Reply-To: <006c01c8ebd0$b64be050$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <006c01c8ebd0$b64be050$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: <_RNc0C.A.T7.r7ZhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:48:43 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > is it possible to time-sync an EDP to an RC-50? I'll do a gig with a > percussionist who loops with an RC-50 and it would be cool if I could play > basslines and such into my EDP, synced to the rhythms coming from the RC-50. I won't say anything about the technical options, since I guess there might be some way to fix it with CV gate pulse or whatever, but I can suggest trying "musical sync by ear". The EDP is especially good for that. Simply kick the Record pedal on a downbeat, play something and kick Record again at the correct timing. The longer loop you catch this way, the longer it will stay "synced". -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 08:54:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36F283BEDE; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:54:33 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:syncing an EDP to an RC-50 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" Cc: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:54:34 +0000 (UTC) > Michael Peters wrote: > is it possible to time-sync an EDP to an RC-50? I'll do a gig with a > percussionist who loops with an RC-50 and it would be cool if I could p= lay > basslines and such into my EDP, synced to the rhythms coming from the R= C-50. I never synced an EDP with an RC-50 but I have synced several synths and = a TC D2 delay with the RC-50 and it works fine, the midi clock is very st= able and accurate. But you should know that the RC-50 can only be synced when it's the midi = master. Slave mode does not work well due to the fact it needs a midi sta= rt message before it will sync it's clock. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 09:07:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9D073BEDF; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:07:47 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <-HmMIC.A.bPB.lNahIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:07:49 +0000 (UTC) I would buy some old tape recorders and a bike with a dynamo. The bike ca= n be used to drive the tape recorder, the dynamo generates power to ampli= fy your sound. The faster you bike, the higher the pitch ;) An extended version would include an accu/battery system --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 09:11:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67A993BEE1; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 47257811/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.215.35 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.215.35 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQAAEBBhUhPTtcj/2dsb2JhbAAIsBeDQg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,230,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="47257811" Message-ID: <4885A425.4080005@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:11:01 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: syncing an EDP to an RC-50 References: <006c01c8ebd0$b64be050$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <006c01c8ebd0$b64be050$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:11:02 +0000 (UTC) It should be no problem. the EDP should be set to Sync=In then it catches the incoming Midi Clock and displays a cycle-time based on it's current 8th/cycle setting. (just wait till it does that) You can switch the sync off/on by hitting Overdub if you don't have a loop running. (can happen by accident, so if you don't get the time displayed that's often the reason) If the tempo of the Rc-50 changes then the edp won't track that at all, and will just run free. hope that helps andy butler (let us know if you upload any recordings :-) Michael Peters wrote: > is it possible to time-sync an EDP to an RC-50? I'll do a gig with a > percussionist who loops with an RC-50 and it would be cool if I could play > basslines and such into my EDP, synced to the rhythms coming from the RC-50. > > Michael > www.michaelpeters.de > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 09:42:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D829D3BED2; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=LB6K7VtpiBVOoYkc60rn6uqg3NSgCTGOJXqlzhTrrMY=; b=EMXyHf54f3y2MK3wY+pLCVkjy26jv/e9JtNuO2jOZsTqBYfYE+Bh3fGOPWX/skMxhA jBq6viEVPe7gHOMpuj/bvsrXPao/KtWW5z/sai7oePPCKwNt1/KiBMDnhSxXd9scUFZz 5X/zpbfnIDhg5iJSVwDIXfAGYe4536cKsmfug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=I+0qLyOoAktGneYDouW9Utgu5Yi7N2qmGtbnzhFz7ILEk6MyZ2jIiJOkvPtNf/M8Ep 8WBlJyX4WszmIR0x6whbubTpzJygvB07dQ9Dj0wRqHd6VreCyWaTD5uuvO/z5jkEmfJA 7DCZie4SuDMQY+J2qsbMnLea01nzVe+jyIPAc= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807220242q14626cc8x4d33a83e59bf00e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:42:40 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Facebook In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> <080101c8ebba$9f432000$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <88DB6AA7-1BFD-4276-B3BB-11A7DA3CF528@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:42:40 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Os wrote: > Darkroom are on Facebook: > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Darkroom/6511547633 Cool! I joined as a fan ;-) And here's mine: http://apps.facebook.com/ilike/artist/Per+Boysen You're all welcome to hook up! ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 10:02:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0E733BED9; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #5829618 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+W+eoLutOWsTFYgZbqNplAsEOhTv3jjCREQI362s TqChPJDn/oDlwF Message-ID: <003101c8ebe4$17893d00$c4a1fe91@parsick> From: "Wavecomputer360" To: References: <007101c8ebca$1b41d700$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: More on Repeater and San Disc Ultra II CFCs Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:45:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, any advice as to what type of SimpleTech CFC to look out for specifically? I bought a couple of these ceaply on eBay during the past couple of years, just to learn that they don´t work with my Repeater... Stephen (with lots of CFC back-up space... ugh, well). ____________________________________________________________________ "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info please check www.parsick.com For legal downloads please check: http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:11 AM Subject: More on Repeater and San Disc Ultra II CFCs > David wrote about his inability to record in stereo with a 512 mg Sans Disk > card > > "So, my experiences with 512MB--they don't work (unless all you need is mono > 4 track recording)." > > > Hey David, > > Here's a situation where it's good to do a little bit of research in the > archives, sometimes before purchasing stuff > you aren't sure about. > > I think we ascertained that 512 MB cards don't work with the Repeater a > long, long time ago. > I, at least, have known that for a long time and I'm pretty sure I read it > at Loopers Delight intitially. > > There's also a Repeaters user group at Yahoo still, where they have > discussed stuff like this. > > Good luck finding a 256 MB card which will work if you get the right one. > Back in the day, several years ago, we figured out that Simple Tech made > the best cards for this. > My brother is much more of an expert on the Repeater than I am, though. > You might ask him. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 10:43:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD6E43BECD; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=iC7u7Jd9V2ny1MEkdgGdN8cie+6PK4OCk/+xzvBsf0U=; b=h6WqOgGTGl7uRNUixOUHcRyIU4zU4WeuWYVGHV43xl/7/ej2kBBGpJCTha0bJgOqcI 9q1NW51QU2vf6b1+N9N021TW0lF1UV8UPGx2TUsgh+UiSzL6+RUDW9pJs3hRO+argwhP bEW0WzzCPl0XNVxLzuLGP4GhVR4D+GLdceToU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rH11dNRbYxa9L93tdWTXu8UbZDwyIpr2nuGV/RfLDWbSa+w6u05TjewOtAbAen4cK/ f0SgN0yDByqifW0WcKYy+kjvPUkTF3wfivMMXuDFHvrqiiHjzgLANMeL+b5msP6Tgmw3 jWMZms4PjAf1I6aaYE6b0cRmSWCQUFvpuyMHo= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:43:38 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Was: Re: Facebook OT/Now: "Loopers Delight" Group on Facebook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Man, is the "Search" mechanism for Facebook frelled ... the good news is that there are only 123 entries returned for "andy butler UK" (as opposed to "andy butler" which returns over 500 ... go figure ...). One thing to check is whether or not you are listed as a musician/band (Steve Lawson, Matt Stevens, and a couple of others can have "fans" rather than "friends"). As of about 5 minutes ago, there is a new group on Facebook called, more or less appropriately, "Loopers Delight" ... this should make it a a little easier to get folks there together. Best, Dennis On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:58 AM, andy butler wrote: > hi Matt, > I'm on there as andy butler > > ..or at least, I think I am > > > Matt Stevens wrote: >> >> Anyone else on Facebook??? >> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Matt-Stevens/15850653643?ref=s >> >> any looping groups???? >> >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 10:45:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 934703BED2; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=5rMrmNRIUd9X53iuE3dA09S7KaYk8EiWlOQFmEK4Xgo=; b=orvvnaDeT0TU3mYI8++lMzQM9oZbFY2z3ou9leGM7lRApGE6c9WuqKaci8ZHztkXgN m8keEY9nAN20AeJLw78Thid2eaSvyJHEk4gsAiRQcGeVwVhY+lnvBFLJRZbdJR965xv0 vNH8v7nr3vG3/FK31JijZfGpK7VndeVEoOx4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=QMhc6juI5sZ485q61DDXWemFT6GnG2UBPfNTwkLW/44vdyIibUBo1yYnFs19DVlXrk hsFrhWhIBKa16k7WJZMbACVstYKXdvoZS7NwRvtpCt+mK0R5um/oWvRDOtcjRz4750DY V1pFc1J//tkVdu4Tn6qMOa4pbTASWeAHrgvUY= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:45:28 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Facebook In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807220242q14626cc8x4d33a83e59bf00e8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8F014A96-0355-4AAB-8A77-3DB919952A03@btinternet.com> <080101c8ebba$9f432000$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <88DB6AA7-1BFD-4276-B3BB-11A7DA3CF528@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0807220242q14626cc8x4d33a83e59bf00e8@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <23BCSD.A.0OD.JpbhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:45:29 +0000 (UTC) New group this morning (US) called "Loopers Delight" on Facebook ... :-)) Dennis On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Os wrote: >> Darkroom are on Facebook: >> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Darkroom/6511547633 > > Cool! I joined as a fan ;-) > > And here's mine: > http://apps.facebook.com/ilike/artist/Per+Boysen > > You're all welcome to hook up! ;-) > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 13:09:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69FE33BEB6; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 47376910/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.215.35 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.215.35 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQAAJB4hUhPTtcj/2dsb2JhbAAIsDCDQg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,231,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="47376910" Message-ID: <4885DBF0.1080607@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:09:04 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Was: Re: Facebook OT/Now: "Loopers Delight" Group on Facebook References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:09:13 +0000 (UTC) thanks Dennis, I hardly understand how to work facebook, but seem to be connected now. The social networking side seems to have some neat features for getting people to gigs. at our last loop concert (with Rick Walker) the venue somehow used it to get us additional audience members. andy Dennis Moser wrote: > Man, is the "Search" mechanism for Facebook frelled ... the good news > is that there are only 123 entries returned for "andy butler UK" (as > opposed to "andy butler" which returns over 500 ... go figure ...). > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 14:54:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DA523BEB2; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:54:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I guess I'd do what I've already been doing every other week or so - play acoustic slide dobro. If you've listened to my recorded music it might be a little hard to imagine. But a loooooooong time ago I was a sort of Leo Kottke/John Fahey clone . . . wannabe . . . whatever. Not a very good one of course, or else I would've stuck with it. Then I discovered electricity and FX and (over 20 some odd years ago) looping. If any of you who have ever seen me play live wondered why I still play in odd tunings and wear all those funny Edward Scissor-Hands banjo picks on my fingers - that's why. It's sort of a hold-over. Because of my bi-weekly dobro gigs this past year I have gotten much, much better at it (solo acoustic slide guitar ) than ever I was way back when. But I have always been able to play solo to a certain extent . . . even before I looped. I was a solo player before I was anything else. Looping just took it to other places and levels that I would have never gotten to otherwise. It helped me stop being a clone or wannabe, it helped me be myself. Cheers, Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 14:56:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F33D3BEBA; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4885F516.8030302@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:56:22 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4884DF57.7020705@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Sweet! thanks Matt. luv your reply sig's... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > A guy named Andrew Kaluzynski > http://www.myspace.com/kaltechmusic > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > Daryl Shawn was all: > >> Whoa. Way to rise to the challenge. >> >> Who's my fellow dictaphonist?? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 15:24:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B2353BEAF; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=C6gyH47BAWt1MNMML76zFlm9elFLADeetHKtVS083PQ=; b=wZRVQsf5MteEfgNOGauIY+MwLcsRXB0/FSS2Zw6cMpEXLfyAoPpAQoPecQPfK7BQLT Xqohd6aAacOTsh3XCUoI8vXIpRAjJbEbROLudv7d2F+Df96nLmWdZ1bPqeD378VLnfjW wHbhM24GLF7iwoWp2PdikZmPKxVc7cY27m3XY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=rjIidzfmkZZ5Bz3f0QYHe7sCjmsowOQT1MNsNmSRRIEevzYTwGZBItuXGbo3xi75NN mD/hETNW2ct+LUD7Brbc/VP6F26ZUossox0n9MtcnhKZeuwyGoSbHUZzU1u+LmXM8SKl 3SLf13w0bVdL1CWRBV56TZvVBXsT64cq4iw0I= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807220824kb64192ay94098efee0e7acd9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:24:25 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: <3OfsMC.A.AOD.rufhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Hello again, Having already thrown one post into this highly interesting thread I just came to think about something I forgot to mention. To me looping is not about "technology" but rather about contrapunct and the option to play many musical lines at the same time, improvising composition and arrangement as you go. This is what I like with looping and especially when using monophonic instruments like wind and reed. If not having access to electricity I would not only play more in ensembles, as was my first answer. I would also go back to more guitar playing - since that is my first instrument and well polyphonic to let you do instant multiple parts. I guess the Chapman Stick is out of the question, being an electric instrument? Too bad, because that has been on my wish list for decades, together with a bass clarinet. As for number three, I would not quit air and reed playing but concentrate more on the psychedelic aspects; like creating imaginable ("implied") lines for contrapunct only using the tools of what you physically play. Playing with looping machines makes it easy to explicitly play out all those psychedelic aspects, which of course effectively kills the magic since it makes people hear the cool stuff with their ears and not inside their mind. So maybe a little less electricity would be good for the music... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 15:35:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CB6B3BEBE; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=r8m6MXC2PDkoU3INQxtaskKCuNQk/O0QeOEvsI+Vn6o=; b=cSjg0oXkMe4bp8gBJeh6mgPGo3coVApoFIorP7119Z64ESpkcq25cmZ0RjjLA3adJ7 WQn77v6H5u3/f2pymhQ3NAxy9miFNQ75YWKajWMaBGWTw59sKGw4ho/hjAaWsYPWCFLY Ri1+PGX88x0gPMMSK8Tm/e4Y+0UR2YdLCcz5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EN6mjH/B4gQdwfxr5uTTKPies4qMjZ1NUet+g8KV45exGF2nhVNujV87Qt1xDCzcIB BGKCxjpO92T8wGfpOUovmX3oAw9rmz4LLHEFNEtAV1Hlc/5jiMwNYVAOCITA26/5Bu5p R8E2BWOAIKhZecayf401d4UqQtT6pc4s/3ADU= Message-ID: <37f071c00807220835vb1bbf2dtd4f50249b92525b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:35:11 -0700 From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Drumming fitness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_52334_24448244.1216740911872" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:35:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_52334_24448244.1216740911872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey Rick, this is for you (and all other drummers) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7518888.stm Does looping multiply the benefits? Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_Part_52334_24448244.1216740911872 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hey Rick, this is for you (and all other drummers)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7518888.stm

Does looping multiply the benefits?

Kevin


--

Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org
------=_Part_52334_24448244.1216740911872-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 15:45:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B01673BEC1; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KZcd0ck9ln/3bpXbJy4Hl/l9edGRkbjYaaTZ+SeKYq4=; b=wmNN3zLaepHwMl15pG4k8Ru7KMvZDnSPBCdn1vIoTjYGZO2sj6b+NQq13wgxZoCFSV xNxz/EeOa9WKsJBuPWIa93sm7pXom8NdLeD/7hYMKuwlHBE356WXb6xr+X4agjlkDqoJ G23mEDwB+MJomuAonuBWdVjz+1hqmTHOoMicI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=N2ufuDNbECTDbbjQiOUoiO0p3Scca/li3yfrU/cveZIOadX7wA20qpUicNplERFa5m ETOPuJG2Qp6IoQXtrmNhTqK0by2eOHSGX36VdL+8HKX58rl7MsyilmeQGjL2ZhOAYhoP gx1Fyg24xP40H0A9fgyzMT/XO6act7EkLaDoQ= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807220845u4bc2327dm61b4ee20eaf67ca9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:45:55 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drumming fitness In-Reply-To: <37f071c00807220835vb1bbf2dtd4f50249b92525b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_37322_8345602.1216741555843" References: <37f071c00807220835vb1bbf2dtd4f50249b92525b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:45:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_37322_8345602.1216741555843 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Oh, so then I *do* have a fitness program... On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hey Rick, this is for you (and all other drummers) > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7518888.stm > > Does looping multiply the benefits? > > Kevin > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_37322_8345602.1216741555843 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Oh, so then I *do* have a fitness program...

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Rick, this is for you (and all other drummers)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7518888.stm

Does looping multiply the benefits?

Kevin


--

Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_37322_8345602.1216741555843-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 15:53:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC6283BEB9; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807220824kb64192ay94098efee0e7acd9@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0807220824kb64192ay94098efee0e7acd9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:53:37 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:53:41 +0000 (UTC) At 5:24 PM +0200 7/22/08, Per Boysen wrote: > >...I guess the Chapman Stick is out of the >question, being an electric instrument? Too bad, because that has been >on my wish list for decades.... Hah! Oh ye of little faith. ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM5S-1zOK0U and/or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcZ7Deu0V9A Actually, I think that Bob Culbertson may have the only one of these: he was able to convince Emmett to build him one as a prototype, IIRC. However, I'm certain there's simply no way to stop the good Mssr. Chapman from building things, even if no electricity were available. Two weeks after the grid goes down and I'm betting Stick Enterprises starts putting these on the market. --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." ( x ) <--- you are here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 16:09:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 433E73BEAE; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0807220824kb64192ay94098efee0e7acd9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-65070356 Message-Id: <1afcf20db847b72792d74bb2bd12204a@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:09:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:09:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-65070356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Don't know if this has already been mentioned because I'm just popping in mid stream on the topic... but a fun and sort of light read on this topic is "World Made By Hand" by James Howard Kunstler (I think his name is). He's the guy who wrote The Long Emergency that sort of made 'peak oil' famous. World Made By Hand is fiction and the tale revolves around an area in Pennsylvania - in the not too distant future - AFTER the oil is gone, major cities have been blown up and chaos rules most of the country. A good read and helpful in visualizing how it will be. Has some odd turns writing wise but still a great thought provoking read. I think about this a LOT and every new power tool (musical, digital or construction) I buy brings this topic back to me. I think it's a good thing to ponder for multiple reasons - most already stated in previous posts. In fact, thinking about all this is part of why I bought this farm! Chapman sticks are incredibly cool. So sorry I sold mine twenty plus years ago. But it was just one more thing to learn in an already way overloaded curriculum. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 22-Jul-08, at 8:53 AM, Mech wrote: > At 5:24 PM +0200 7/22/08, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> ...I guess the Chapman Stick is out of the >> question, being an electric instrument? Too bad, because that has been >> on my wish list for decades.... > > Hah! Oh ye of little faith. ;) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM5S-1zOK0U > and/or > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcZ7Deu0V9A > > Actually, I think that Bob Culbertson may have the only one of these: > he was able to convince Emmett to build him one as a prototype, IIRC. > > However, I'm certain there's simply no way to stop the good Mssr. > Chapman from building things, even if no electricity were available. > Two weeks after the grid goes down and I'm betting Stick Enterprises > starts putting these on the market. > > --m. > -- > _____ > "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." > ( x ) <--- you are here. > --Apple-Mail-1-65070356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Don't know if this has already been mentioned because I'm just popping in mid stream on the topic... but a fun and sort of light read on this topic is "World Made By Hand" by James Howard Kunstler (I think his name is). He's the guy who wrote The Long Emergency that sort of made 'peak oil' famous. World Made By Hand is fiction and the tale revolves around an area in Pennsylvania - in the not too distant future - AFTER the oil is gone, major cities have been blown up and chaos rules most of the country. A good read and helpful in visualizing how it will be. Has some odd turns writing wise but still a great thought provoking read. I think about this a LOT and every new power tool (musical, digital or construction) I buy brings this topic back to me. I think it's a good thing to ponder for multiple reasons - most already stated in previous posts. In fact, thinking about all this is part of why I bought this farm! Chapman sticks are incredibly cool. So sorry I sold mine twenty plus years ago. But it was just one more thing to learn in an already way overloaded curriculum. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 22-Jul-08, at 8:53 AM, Mech wrote: At 5:24 PM +0200 7/22/08, Per Boysen wrote: ...I guess the Chapman Stick is out of the question, being an electric instrument? Too bad, because that has been on my wish list for decades.... Hah! Oh ye of little faith. ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM5S-1zOK0U and/or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcZ7Deu0V9A Actually, I think that Bob Culbertson may have the only one of these: he was able to convince Emmett to build him one as a prototype, IIRC. However, I'm certain there's simply no way to stop the good Mssr. Chapman from building things, even if no electricity were available. Two weeks after the grid goes down and I'm betting Stick Enterprises starts putting these on the market. --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." ( x ) <<--- you are here. --Apple-Mail-1-65070356-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 16:14:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53BDD3BEA0; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <4885DBF0.1080607@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4885DBF0.1080607@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-65373125 Message-Id: <9fdfb06c108e731f3f930aa3c8ad9f7e@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Was: Re: Facebook OT/Now: "Loopers Delight" Group on Facebook Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:14:17 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:14:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-65373125 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Not sure how to link folks to my facebook but here it is! http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php#/profile.php?id=586596944 or look up richard sales on vancouver island B.C. Canada I'm in summer high work output mode so 'friend' me! very cool. United we jam!!! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 22-Jul-08, at 6:09 AM, andy butler wrote: > thanks Dennis, > > I hardly understand how to work facebook, > but seem to be connected now. > > The social networking side seems to have some neat features for > getting people to gigs. > at our last loop concert (with Rick Walker) the venue somehow used it > to > get us additional audience members. > > andy > > Dennis Moser wrote: >> Man, is the "Search" mechanism for Facebook frelled ... the good news >> is that there are only 123 entries returned for "andy butler UK" (as >> opposed to "andy butler" which returns over 500 ... go figure ...). > --Apple-Mail-2-65373125 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Not sure how to link folks to my facebook but here it is! http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php#/profile.php?id=586596944 or look up richard sales on vancouver island B.C. Canada I'm in summer high work output mode so 'friend' me! very cool. United we jam!!! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c.C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.joannesales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com www.broombusters.org On 22-Jul-08, at 6:09 AM, andy butler wrote: thanks Dennis, I hardly understand how to work facebook, but seem to be connected now. The social networking side seems to have some neat features for getting people to gigs. at our last loop concert (with Rick Walker) the venue somehow used it to get us additional audience members. andy Dennis Moser wrote: Man, is the "Search" mechanism for Facebook frelled ... the good news is that there are only 123 entries returned for "andy butler UK" (as opposed to "andy butler" which returns over 500 ... go figure ...). --Apple-Mail-2-65373125-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 16:45:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFF413BEB9; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:44:36 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: Subject:,More on Repeater and San Disc Ultra II CFCs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48860E74.30509@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:45:59 +0000 (UTC) >> Rick Walker wrote: >> I think we ascertained that 512 MB cards don't work with the Repeater a long, long time ago. I, at least, have known that for a long time and I'm pretty sure I read it at Loopers Delight intitially. I use a Pretec 512MB CompactFlash with my Repeater. I have definitely recorded to stereo tracks without any problem. I can't say I've actually tried to make it fail, but in my experience it is very stable in my unit. I did see a 'CFC-slow' message once, but it never reappeared. I would grab one at from the US-based source David Durian refers to in his post: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200807/msg00412.html His source says that as of yesterday (7/21/08) there were several 512MB Pretec CF cards with the Hitachi SA05 controller in stock. I paid considerable more for mine... http://www.timatech.com/products.php?pd_pn=CFH512-CP -- Dan Ash White Plains, NY Always remember that you're unique. Just like everyone else. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 17:50:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5FEB3BEAE; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080722135005.17YXJ.167516.imail@fed1rmwml25> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:50:05 -0400 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drumming fitness Cc: Kevin Cheli-Colando In-Reply-To: <37f071c00807220835vb1bbf2dtd4f50249b92525b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:50:07 +0000 (UTC) I used to go stretch in the gym before I played on Sundays in a contemporary Christian rock group at church. Sometimes it helped more than practicing. Tom ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hey Rick, this is for you (and all other drummers) > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7518888.stm > > Does looping multiply the benefits? > > Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 17:57:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92AA43BEB9; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9fCk8ck2OX9uAwCGnfChYnKl4rJ/0c7MbNU+AqNU0Kc=; b=dE3Rd2G0v6oqmBKft8DQRn7xW1KHvjs4PIZ5uSKT7yWbVxHTzO9LRoHKJCN14HZCpP yZ0o1733moaE38tfgqzcwvQ1C6+oCs0f1iMTShFNh+ecmiA3jihF/IPS5jlcnFdagY9x 5n7hSCxe8EKbwN/bbZmT6588+ktibvgjMC29M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ekskmNeEjDgAiR58qwnJj1XcsPkCWu6NOl+pVccUGuA+JeS2lzoxTn7laBfwP+MaRm RSnIx7dRdeg5zL2SsoZZKHre6SwNo+/8VzZbZIUZ8VI3tSnS/c6QYSeMfCAkJPRa8Y3H SWFRSS2iQLZlWTR6HXuHaA/fKFDJ8t7NTe/WE= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807221057n7c996332hc415df2e47629b36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:57:11 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drumming fitness In-Reply-To: <20080722135005.17YXJ.167516.imail@fed1rmwml25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_38480_21951636.1216749431447" References: <37f071c00807220835vb1bbf2dtd4f50249b92525b@mail.gmail.com> <20080722135005.17YXJ.167516.imail@fed1rmwml25> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:57:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_38480_21951636.1216749431447 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Stretching, or going to church? ;) On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM, wrote: > I used to go stretch in the gym before I played on Sundays in a > contemporary Christian rock group at church. Sometimes it helped more than > practicing. > > Tom > > ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > Hey Rick, this is for you (and all other drummers) > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7518888.stm > > > > Does looping multiply the benefits? > > > > Kevin > > > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_38480_21951636.1216749431447 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Stretching, or going to church? ;)

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM, <tomrex1@cox.net> wrote:
I used to go stretch in the gym before I played on Sundays in a contemporary Christian rock group at church.  Sometimes it helped more than practicing.

Tom

---- Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Rick, this is for you (and all other drummers)
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7518888.stm
>
> Does looping multiply the benefits?
>
> Kevin
>




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_38480_21951636.1216749431447-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 18:12:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48F453BE9E; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080722141202.IOYUB.168050.imail@fed1rmwml25> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:12:02 -0400 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drumming fitness Cc: Dave In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70807221057n7c996332hc415df2e47629b36@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Probably both, Dave. Stretching was a way to get my body limber for early morning playing. tom ---- Dave wrote: > Stretching, or going to church? ;) > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM, wrote: > > > I used to go stretch in the gym before I played on Sundays in a > > contemporary Christian rock group at church. Sometimes it helped more than > > practicing. > > > > Tom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 19:30:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B4B73BEAE; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Todd Madson X-Authentication-Warning: waste.org: www-data set sender to crash@waste.org using -f Message-ID: <62658.208.162.64.63.1216755212.squirrel@waste.org> In-Reply-To: <20080722154557.634043BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20080722154557.634043BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:33:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Bits of my looping gig up at youtube! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:30:51 +0000 (UTC) All: Since my gig was a bit of a limited thing, I posted some video clips up at youtube. Not 100% the best audio since it was a noisy smoothie bar with a blender louder than the PA but here you go. Gear: Ibanez AR300 guitar, Mesa Studio Preamp, Lexicon Vortex, TC Electronic GSharp, EH Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai (looper). Segment One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siUm7FHOFPE Segment Two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz8ZqBYWL6Q Segment Four: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcLyyhEh-to Last Segment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R59txJR2W80 Audio Segment from the "Loud" part of the set: http://pod.ath.cx/connies/mp3live/asb-loud-set.mp3 Enjoy! -Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 20:17:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E2493BEAE; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=NSt3FzZ39nlSZ9NO+8DSKnGlMbZkNk6eXu+5Qj+T54kiHI0tjxYI9ZlF7qbtiko9RZu/XaVCH31KYN7fe02M9kYIb0YSpeSmImhA2uIStcjfTcZc+P99dquSJ6yaPfaWU3GDgEHsv0vq0/JY1UTIZ/X+YWUSnFBT7eaLERx3Kd8=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:17:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: Re: 512 MB SanDisk Ultra II and Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-157816769-1216757832=:75515" Message-ID: <317042.75515.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:17:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-157816769-1216757832=:75515 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think the issue the SanDisks I've been trying may be that they have no Hitachi controller. I don't know for sure--the product number has an H before the 512, so I was hoping that meant "Hitachi" like it does with the Pretec cards... Someone on the Repeater List had posted a few months ago getting the Ultra II to work, but I suspect they just meant it records 4 mono tracks. If I were only doing mono looping, I might not think to check for stereo and stereo with overdub while reversed, and would think all was well with it too. (And of course, if you are a 4 channels in mono looping person, then it seems like it would be a good choice). --0-157816769-1216757832=:75515 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I think the issue the SanDisks I've been trying may be that they have no Hitachi controller. I don't know for sure--the product number has an H before the 512, so I was hoping that meant "Hitachi" like it does with the Pretec cards...

Someone on the Repeater List had posted a few months ago getting the Ultra II to work, but I suspect they just meant it records 4 mono tracks. If I were only doing mono looping, I might not think to check for stereo and stereo with overdub while reversed, and would think all was well with it too. (And of course, if you are a 4 channels in mono looping person, then it seems like it would be a good choice).



--0-157816769-1216757832=:75515-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 20:21:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A27233BEAF; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=s7Uf9wa8oSl3LR7YDVFaFivxDoXfr0aqOMe1bthBqV5re6/RjSGGBd6znTB7D0CAtqTjOoXczyZNo6Wvl4N4/z/PpAp0alr9vN6DpsPwm4gj0BL+C9LoYHsgdPFcg05ia+skGZGt5RHIrvYbLgyn3O1aujuRRXkfqbupa1fzFDQ=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:21:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: Re: More on Pretec CFs and Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-356690378-1216758084=:81926" Message-ID: <864992.81926.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:21:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-356690378-1216758084=:81926 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi again all, Here's one more development on Pretec CFC ordering that I learned about this morning (and posted to the Repeater User's Group already). Initially, I sent links to two web sites last week--a Canadian one who actually sends their orders out from California (Tima Tech) and a UK site called Jactron. I emailed the folks at Jactron (UK site) today, and it turns out that although they do have the 256 MB cards listed on their site--they are backordered. The guy I emailed told me they are able to still track them down, but since they are on backorder, there is a longer wait period. (The Jactron site is the one with the url: http://www.jactron.co.uk/compactflash- industrial-grade-eol-legacy-products/pretec-industrial-grade-compactflash-disk- 32mb-to-512mb-hitachi-sah05/) I initially ordered one with Jactron about 2 weeks ago, and heard back today that they are still on backorder. So not sure what that means about the total wait period, as I cancelled my order. On the other hand, when I talked with Bruce at Tima Tec yesterday, he said the numbers he mentioned to me (see earlier message) were for cards they still had on hand in stock. (http://www.timatech.com/) Best, David --0-356690378-1216758084=:81926 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Initially, I sent links to two web sites last w= eek--a Canadian one who actually sends their orders out from California =A0= (Tima Tech) and a UK site called Jactron.

I emailed the folks at= =A0Jactron (UK site) today, and it turns out that=A0although they do=
have the 256 MB cards listed on their site--they = are backordered. The guy I
emailed told=A0me they are able to still trac= k them down, but since they are on backorder,
there is a=A0longer wait p= eriod.

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http://www.jactron.co.uk/compactflash-
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32mb-to-512mb-hita= chi-sah05/)

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they are=A0still on backorder. So not sure wha= t that means about the total wait period, as
I cancelled=A0my order.
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in stock.

(http://= www.timatech.com/)

Best,

David

=0A=0A --0-356690378-1216758084=:81926-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 20:36:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D7593BEBA; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=FMeHVrX1fPFe9htoemhvwln7RqJmOJYMbkFYgqovdsk=; b=fTpvlkAi/R0ECsHbV91CwrJmkPlYTe9g4rmxwoJiIp//6OM3K/l0XOhU/x2FDVOvIL cp0FBpENEz6+wHEysVYNVMc2X25GRIQEseG5KrhA34pF3jUIT1w6gZePx2flnzBZoGEF oTdCaBCT9rq5/kXxB5GFvpDztI4zjvBLPVXDE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=AGvih+//6TdsLqpsvOwDGF8EZSZrv1FPoECUiNM4/PVeuotZijo4EZZ4ovfvUH5e9i XQQlk0HvNQeNKMcUxok7SuRPbwhrqoNM1y17BMhaBhSEcqhFIfSD9z3335rPRiBEmsG0 U5VL8G1KKCZhcb1vVnhxh/1DeAtKSl1+TG0ig= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00807221336i1473ba0ai91d977c65416020f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:36:42 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bits of my looping gig up at youtube! In-Reply-To: <62658.208.162.64.63.1216755212.squirrel@waste.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_101920_17393002.1216759002268" References: <20080722154557.634043BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> <62658.208.162.64.63.1216755212.squirrel@waste.org> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:36:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_101920_17393002.1216759002268 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Coooool. How do you feel about the crowd talking? Do you view yourself as providing background music to their conversations, or are you expecting them to shut up and listen? On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Todd Madson wrote: > All: > > Since my gig was a bit of a limited thing, I posted some video clips > up at youtube. Not 100% the best audio since it was a noisy smoothie > bar with a blender louder than the PA but here you go. > > Gear: Ibanez AR300 guitar, Mesa Studio Preamp, Lexicon Vortex, > TC Electronic GSharp, EH Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai (looper). > > Segment One: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siUm7FHOFPE > > Segment Two: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz8ZqBYWL6Q > > Segment Four: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcLyyhEh-to > > Last Segment: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R59txJR2W80 > > Audio Segment from the "Loud" part of the set: > http://pod.ath.cx/connies/mp3live/asb-loud-set.mp3 > > Enjoy! > > -Todd > > ------=_Part_101920_17393002.1216759002268 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Coooool.

How do you feel about the crowd talking? Do you view yourself as providing background music to their conversations, or are you expecting them to shut up and listen?

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Todd Madson <crash@waste.org> wrote:
All:

Since my gig was a bit of a limited thing, I posted some video clips
up at youtube.  Not 100% the best audio since it was a noisy smoothie
bar with a blender louder than the PA but here you go.

Gear:  Ibanez AR300 guitar, Mesa Studio Preamp, Lexicon Vortex,
TC Electronic GSharp, EH Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai (looper).

Segment One:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siUm7FHOFPE

Segment Two:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz8ZqBYWL6Q

Segment Four:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcLyyhEh-to

Last Segment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R59txJR2W80

Audio Segment from the "Loud" part of the set:
http://pod.ath.cx/connies/mp3live/asb-loud-set.mp3

Enjoy!

-Todd


------=_Part_101920_17393002.1216759002268-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 22:26:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BC153BEAF; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=j5iPmP/CZOs7AMYyCaSZrZRFgcSEQ6/xKJgO+i5UNyg=; b=U8Rms+gg9ILHWVwfVC8jP+WmmSsCi1XcDPUP+bnvtXdaJFRNl2Re2D0Fwv2ocdHg5E xHZeshin+3ahKRFqHR49+WeiC/qVK35gHyJEflzhSWjTzhjJ4c7iskh1oaNjnBhKGQ68 GztmSMEDAOEN4VKNrDGp3H/g/sbOn1PrOUCUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=NBywZbWRIm1z9PctVptA5HC8eHESgTKzNPVNvEokDWg0f8r8RyZEenMY6HSFRgAW2S ftN6qdwhgw8/kzpdEkYLgaY8uWtAQyag7pevZamzl19z7wE4Vn2K596H3axjcH57OfIR djrS9bQ31yZekSnB7+O5jKnKed30j1QB3K8N4= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0807221526w37841bf7y4e7851f0baba2399@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:26:32 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drumming fitness In-Reply-To: <20080722141202.IOYUB.168050.imail@fed1rmwml25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_75584_18153568.1216765592377" References: <499c6bd70807221057n7c996332hc415df2e47629b36@mail.gmail.com> <20080722141202.IOYUB.168050.imail@fed1rmwml25> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e2ce64086c0adae8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:26:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_75584_18153568.1216765592377 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ... was that early morning playing or praying? ------=_Part_75584_18153568.1216765592377 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
... was that early morning playing or praying?
------=_Part_75584_18153568.1216765592377-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 22:38:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9C423BEBE; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bJ2itJtezO48OYENJSLHPEnQ4BqgMvZUUTGuM7rtsYc=; b=jGliJrmYr5vGi/eWnqr1eBSZlDT2WBYPVe85EkoHRzNc/Go8ld68e+AdzRYj+lf3Pf wPDoFFG+GVrvCKUoNiyTrMJyBrkukgKWYhDliqlp4jKGf1RwXnVSXirX+Zx4Pb4Y9uCy gSZhqCIU0iP6hyJectz2kwcnEy/WI06SOBRCw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Kat+XBK2ZiWe1dVxCMu1D8/1/vIWcAqD3tnWfumqbOr6xo3UUdR85D2ihRAgTHRnwt 1bjurqRnNiBB+Gof19WqGgHGeLcZa/IcQoLUnjRD1DkOVlqQdpYYf+RPwy7j7n4itL4w IXt00I2TvYds7q13D9nRcbbInby0JDqYA1e2Q= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:38:11 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bits of my looping gig up at youtube! In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00807221336i1473ba0ai91d977c65416020f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080722154557.634043BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> <62658.208.162.64.63.1216755212.squirrel@waste.org> <1c3a4db00807221336i1473ba0ai91d977c65416020f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:38:13 +0000 (UTC) I wonder if the crowd noise seems loud because the camera mic was picking everything up ... and the people near the camera would naturally be louder ... Dennis On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:36 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > Coooool. > > How do you feel about the crowd talking? Do you view yourself as providing > background music to their conversations, or are you expecting them to shut > up and listen? > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Todd Madson wrote: >> >> All: >> >> Since my gig was a bit of a limited thing, I posted some video clips >> up at youtube. Not 100% the best audio since it was a noisy smoothie >> bar with a blender louder than the PA but here you go. >> >> Gear: Ibanez AR300 guitar, Mesa Studio Preamp, Lexicon Vortex, >> TC Electronic GSharp, EH Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai (looper). >> >> Segment One: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siUm7FHOFPE >> >> Segment Two: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz8ZqBYWL6Q >> >> Segment Four: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcLyyhEh-to >> >> Last Segment: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R59txJR2W80 >> >> Audio Segment from the "Loud" part of the set: >> http://pod.ath.cx/connies/mp3live/asb-loud-set.mp3 >> >> Enjoy! >> >> -Todd >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 22 22:51:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ACEC3BEB2; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080722185114.YU88L.174554.imail@fed1rmwml25> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:51:14 -0400 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drumming fitness Cc: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807221526w37841bf7y4e7851f0baba2399@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:51:15 +0000 (UTC) actually, that was both, too. it was a worship group. a long way from when I was a kid, and music took me off the streets and into the bars, so my Mom always knew where I was :) but I was much older then... Tom ---- mark francombe wrote: > ... was that early morning playing or praying? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 01:44:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E1A73BEAF; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=yeZkVXvaTpSNGAORdvMd75ewaeOo9Or0zqyqk1yQpZ8sSKs5f1eSwy0iZENy4xUKtfOafiQ92RfgTuSM0irXrZnnZ3v4wFdGRVRFS4otIr/p1T3lTELiabhXs4U1pwrf/zcPWaqwWAj0YEB1hgmiEkvQaLMPfyEroaHeUdrt7Fk=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:44:29 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: billbigrig@yahoo.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <011b01c8ebd4$d0c589a0$1692a8c0@voo.intra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <266296.21022.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, I would relocate to a waterfall or steep creek and set upa small hydropower se up. Or, Where I lve, a medium windmill. With lots of cash, a solar array. Rig --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Ben wrote: > From: Ben > Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 1:27 AM > Hello, > > I think I would do a "mechanical looper". > One solution is to attach objects to the wheels of bikes to > strum accoustic > guitars or knock on wood pieces. > Modifying the overall gear ratio of the chain drive > (casette, > derailleur,...) and the size of the wheels you could get > some fun polyrythms > going on... > > In fact you can create also a "paper loop" with > punched holes (piano roll) > to feed a mechanical organ (is that the word in english?). > Frippertronic the good old way ;-) > > Ben. > > PS: sorry if the ideas are not that clear, my knowledge of > english is quite > limited whan leaving the IT field. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 01:51:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C5D83BEBA; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=91yd7Q+Eua9v3WrYt/8BoMEWKJZxcLm44TuH9pzoBaE=; b=UoBXsOKre+ckCpHugJUGgzE/6YXqLYtTTK8/ESxXY1e3+/GPsV7nwA9bkQEEB26giz g3FVrPyq1j9WajFcNgJosYhcx+mk5ww3vATeZx8Gf9czYoRby7ZQ2aXHheRPnT3amhby 4B/i98ZjhYISJFlOk+SKxfzLXfSdvc4xZr4YY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=cS/5x08h2VteWX51kW7WpdVlxmpQq6AGSE53RN11OwiHIPcYQmxSvOSLBkh8mbfzVX K0giamg38y97LSUtsE5G7MjTkNKMbB2+AA5N4GPz3+OarVaY3BR05sptqRXbtsd9Ab/Q wrhnKhVxBmVotEfNEpzd+TIbY/A9kSa8cvSgw= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:51:07 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_91398_26636925.1216777867885" References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:51:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_91398_26636925.1216777867885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" is often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power company could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I would find a way to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!" To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power". TH On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 > decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For > example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and > powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question. > > What would you do? > > ------=_Part_91398_26636925.1216777867885 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" is often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power company could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I would find a way to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!"

To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power".

TH

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question.

What would you do?
 

------=_Part_91398_26636925.1216777867885-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 03:25:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC1153BEB2; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language :x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; bh=M+Fx54HoPanlTUobtgMtm/eEGyCQAqAcoOso2fLf6Kw=; b=IZ+gg4R5kCYXY7D4WXz8vmzQe6WFlL6P9cbNetAvuxcRf6CPynpR1qiGDYYVhhacik Qzgpyt9iJ+B8TGLR6UKigzjvez7q3wNBjiZfC4RzTRv5QqwTaP/p5bCoH70zlzDh/Xkh JBphpPgvpfrjd+JUjodzC9fkNok7KHAtQw6R0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language:x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; b=QB6ilqzrKS1o77WJlGia/SkKoU2VT4eUgFdO+ZTmuZoF8G/o6aPRzsSRjTOGw8D1eJ hyxlG9gnYOqY5r4dqt7AiYf0DmhZ7jydMuPygSK5yXSfkAUPHt5rZd6MYI/GWBBaY3Z+ 2CvSsij6HPnixygMdtirKyiIE+3/qIgj0rzs0= From: "Tony K" To: References: <20080722154557.634043BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> <62658.208.162.64.63.1216755212.squirrel@waste.org> <1c3a4db00807221336i1473ba0ai91d977c65416020f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Alternative to YouTube Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:24:57 -0400 Message-ID: <005b01c8ec73$afeb0b70$0fc12250$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-index: AcjsS62kWeEEBqgaQ3G4VLZPB8saSQAJ1ILQ Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: BA8Q BKIS Cs5h CtJl EIWr EnIR Ex2T Ezvh Ezxj F2bA GnhS Kkja K4Zt LQwX LanO Lp6V;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{36AD9A13-2A52-42B6-A0EC-720EF1974717};YgBpAGcAdABvAG4AeQBrAEAAZwBtAGEAaQBsAC4AYwBvAG0A;Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:24:52 GMT;QQBsAHQAZQByAG4AYQB0AGkAdgBlACAAdABvACAAWQBvAHUAVAB1AGIAZQA= x-cr-puzzleid: {36AD9A13-2A52-42B6-A0EC-720EF1974717} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:25:12 +0000 (UTC) For those of you who upload videos, check out www.viddler.com They have a much higher max filesize (500 meg I believe). They have some neat features like being able to comment or tag at a specific spot in a video, and recording right from your webcam. I must admit that the president (Rob) once interned at our company and they had their original offices right next to us, but I have no financial interest in the company. I forgot about the site for over a year until someone on the ambient list posted a video to viddler. Anyway, worth checking out. Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 03:27:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC9863BEC2; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:27:04 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <5iG3XD.A.0LE.OUqhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:27:10 +0000 (UTC) At 6:51 PM -0700 7/22/08, Travis Hartnett wrote: >It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" is >often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power >company could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers >of "I would find a way to generate electricity myself and continue >looping!!" > >To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power". Oh I dunno: wasn't there at least one answer of "I'd go find a big-ass canyon and play with the echoes"? But, yeah, I think you're right about most of the responses so far. One thing that I do find interesting about this survey, is that it seems to show how many people are multi-instrumentalists and have some sort of "primary instrument" that they would fall back to in case of emergency. But often, that particular instrument is *not* the one they most often loop with. Which leads to the question, "do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? Why or why not?" For my part, I'm most comfortable on Bass, but I never loop on it (and, for that matter, I only ever really pick one up a couple times a year). It's merely not as interesting to me as all the other little weirdo instruments I've collected over time. I'm just a dilettante at heart, I guess. --m. -- _____ "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 03:41:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03C043BEBA; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Sender: carpet8@mac.com Message-id: <000a01c8ec76$00ab1fd0$180b3c4a@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:41:33 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <_F882.A.jmE.vhqhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Umm...tie a bag of rocks to a waterwheel?? Kinda roots-industrial. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mech" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? > At 6:51 PM -0700 7/22/08, Travis Hartnett wrote: >>It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" is >>often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power >>company could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers >>of "I would find a way to generate electricity myself and continue >>looping!!" >> >>To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power". > > Oh I dunno: wasn't there at least one answer of "I'd go find a > big-ass canyon and play with the echoes"? > > But, yeah, I think you're right about most of the responses so far. > > One thing that I do find interesting about this survey, is that it > seems to show how many people are multi-instrumentalists and have > some sort of "primary instrument" that they would fall back to in > case of emergency. But often, that particular instrument is *not* > the one they most often loop with. > > Which leads to the question, "do you actually loop with the > instrument you are most proficient on? Why or why not?" > > For my part, I'm most comfortable on Bass, but I never loop on it > (and, for that matter, I only ever really pick one up a couple times > a year). It's merely not as interesting to me as all the other > little weirdo instruments I've collected over time. I'm just a > dilettante at heart, I guess. > > --m. > -- > _____ > "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 04:30:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 487423BEB9; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005901c8ec7c$dc3ca180$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:30:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01C8EC4A.90F8F930" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <1Up2kD.A.1TF.xPrhIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:30:41 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C8EC4A.90F8F930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are exactly right, Travis. Not to get to sci-fi, but in the extreme = sense my question assumed some electro-magnetic phenomenon that = prevented any generation of electricity - though I know that is very = unlikely - but hey, think of The Day the Earth Stood Still on steroids! = :) =20 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" is = often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power company = could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I would = find a way to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!" To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power". TH On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung = wrote: So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the = next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly = scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind = power, and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of = the question. What would you do? ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C8EC4A.90F8F930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You are exactly right, Travis. Not to = get to=20 sci-fi, but in the extreme sense my question assumed some = electro-magnetic=20 phenomenon that prevented any generation of electricity  - though I = know=20 that is very unlikely - but hey, think of The Day the Earth Stood Still = on=20 steroids! :)  
 
Kris
 
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It seems that the question "What would loopers do = without power?"=20 is often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power = company=20 could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I = would find=20 a way to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!"

To = me that=20 doesn't seem to be really "doing without power".

TH

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen = Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> = wrote:
So, let's say hypothetically a = major=20 catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became = non-existent=20 (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely = on=20 solar panels and wind power, and powering an amp and = looper was a=20 complete luxury and out of the question.

What would you do?
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<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C8EC4A.90F8F930-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 06:29:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F1653BEAE; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=/RLrpO7WC9NaXDuRSeP6YrEjkJvdAofHajobFBPykJY=; b=SnbpsjtzaPVYJ1ntjGsuSas9f5FxyRNEAQb4RddoTtdobZXogvYfNddwRmv5lyRF+V TZrcygdb6x5lK4nlNLowdeF/DtDBLv16gFwveolGwh7h7c87eBREAQ4X+6d2j2/Bm51p pXMV229+IW0CGr8VVlk4GRdIG2TId8Aqg3dFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CoOUzaqKOvAqC2ZtEEQOdsStbNF13GSzdiJWBNhsZyM4vmMmi1oLAX1I+2tRIZ/ksv 8RMK4TJ5jdJc3HqqqpVUUwQ3+tdN+yS8iC9SelPKa1fywDlnAR4mjr8/EVA8tOx8IdPP 0hSt+tFMcSlGKoBjzv1Ml6U3Q+5GHq1CvP5BQ= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:29:35 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:29:36 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Mech wrote: > Which leads to the question, "do you actually loop with the instrument you > are most proficient on? Why or why not?" > > For my part, I'm most comfortable on Bass, but I never loop on it (and, for > that matter, I only ever really pick one up a couple times a year). It's > merely not as interesting to me as all the other little weirdo instruments > I've collected over time. I'm just a dilettante at heart, I guess. > > --m. I use different instruments for the varying expression they bring. But the music in my mind never changes as I learn new instruments, it was there from the childhood even before I came to hear explicit music. When thinking a second time about your question I'm realizing that I even consider looping "just another instrument" ;-)) ...as well as a meta instrument. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 08:16:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E3063BEC4; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 47814763/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.240.242 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.240.242 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcAABiGhkhPTvDy/2dsb2JhbAAIsh2DRA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,237,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="47814763" Message-ID: <4886E8D8.8000308@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:16:24 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power?>>Which Instrument References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:16:23 +0000 (UTC) OK, here's my take on this one. When I started looping I transferred to electric guitar as main instrument. I was way more proficient on electric bass, and though I think my guitaring improves gradually in many ways the bass is still more comfortable. I also bypassed my second instrument, which was nylon strung guitar, and took up the use of effects in a big way, having tended to use no effects at all because they obscured the nuances of the playing. Bass looping can be great, I wouldn't want to de-recommend it to anyone, but I find the guitar has a greater range of sounds that are useful for layering, especially for up tempo stuff. I have a definite approach to the way I build up layers on the loops, usually each layer has it's own sound and rhythm, and I find that the relatively neutral sound of electric guitar transforms well with effects. So, it's all about being able to make the layers distinct. andy butler Mech wrote: > > Which leads to the question, "do you actually loop with the instrument > you are most proficient on? Why or why not?" > > For my part, I'm most comfortable on Bass, but I never loop on it (and, > for that matter, I only ever really pick one up a couple times a year). > It's merely not as interesting to me as all the other little weirdo > instruments I've collected over time. I'm just a dilettante at heart, I > guess. > > --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 08:26:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3332C3BEBE; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:26:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GcjqAvyESoMNVxKTzm1sqWdUiN19mOLQO2vXS3bEtGM=; b=xS44E3TPlXNmrAmOFXzZXcqQx1mNNZxGapcAFCNHeTVTaeYH19RnFjX/EI95YkSnzm uwvH4oNNEnWussMRPViQIRIWabNsY6Fa5eUv2JvV3QNB60HAjRGWuEVCPzhfsqRx9hC6 22VyRbO6a24izDmUhuix6vXi3s041217G3pc0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=K5ZVeulzhlbwTQU2Qs3UStH1B0YokTcGg0DtVXQ+rh8OkOK9zLI57eCisy6ql/EiJQ u6e3RtjI8G/w2x+cRZHEoZaJMuCjhzcwKMfEcVb9jSe7pgt0TR9zAc8xjnbw1QxFGlIi JMGohM9NfOoao6fXORSQro4ZkfyR9L6S5wI9Q= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807230126g2bff803bt976bbb8c0a0ef988@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:26:55 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power?>>Which Instrument In-Reply-To: <4886E8D8.8000308@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4886E8D8.8000308@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:26:56 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:16 AM, andy butler wrote: > I have a definite approach to the way I build up layers on the loops, > usually each layer > has it's own sound and rhythm, and I find that the relatively neutral sound > of electric guitar transforms well with effects. So, it's all about being > able to make the layers distinct. This makes me remember something Glenn Branca said when I met him here in Stockholm to do a magazine cover up of his Guitar Orchestra. That band is just a huge swarm of guitarists and when recruiting musicians he especially makes sure they play neutrally sounding guitars. For example, no Telecasters are allowed, since that instrument's sound is not neutral enough for the layering that his Guitar Orchestra to a great deal is about. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 11:02:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB9DD3BEAF; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:02:10 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4886E8D8.8000308@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20080723110210.279110@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4886E8D8.8000308@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power?>>Which Instrument To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/yW2Vfufjyx1OxlJCSlEF040FFodoSuLNZ82oVrF 6TOztNXZYDeyCzSeLJvuTRQQvVMEXNNTXo6w== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 02PsIE44TlI8U8F+jGlrIjNOU2poZZkt Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:02:12 +0000 (UTC) It's interesting to see that so many people are coming from bass playing (was also my main instrument, at least in band setting). When playing in a band, I guess it is the most "looper-minded" instrument because you have to keep the song structure (harmonics, rhythm) together.... Here is another alternative for looping without power: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BvkKzkl7YY&feature=related This guy (Carlos Vamos) don't need no Chpaman Stick! ;-) Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 14:26:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7B283BEA9; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 243553.16471.bm@omp107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Xp4KYoflL2a4sfh5JuI4FFR/ZQ8SZMnh3d/aKFxKV/LMZKyR1ND6r3ViakF5feAIt8+Gusw3aMH2qCVX0Yt+0ugWaZaPHb8iAHMK+ytl9i45+TO6RlS8CFPG8VYw5RWHHP/sQel0bVvz+y9OobeDr9XDYWaQlnE8TXmOsXVDM68=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jah Jast Reply-To: jast81@yahoo.com Subject: Looping Strategies To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <97511.99777.qm@web110102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:26:38 +0000 (UTC) First of all sorry for my Pidgin English. I'm gonna be unpopular i'm sure but here is some thoughts about Looping. At the first Stade the aspiring Looper is animated by what i would call "the syndrome of the One Man Band" . More than Ego (though it is a bit) this is often a problem of lack of confidence along with technique which leads him here.(Tracy Chapman can do a great Song with just an acoustic guitar and 3 or 4 chords no more...) The loop strategy here consists in Layering part onto part and try to simulate a band. Soon he realizes that as fun as it is,it is a sterile way. Then he tends now to become a kind of "Sound Designer".This is the second Stade.The cause here is often a problem of lack of Inspiration,if the one of technique is now improved... Accumulate all type of effects is now the Quest.The goal is to sound like a synthesizer even if he plays flute.The loop strategy is now again Layering part onto part onto part....But to be convincing,that requires time (and patience for listeners)... And you are stuck in a "vertical motion" (which is not the case with a Synthesizer.) This is why i have some problems with the layering Concept. Every time i listen to Loopers (less and less) i play briefly the begining,the middle,and the end of the track and if i can notice the same loop there and there, then i quit... I really appreciate an approach like the one of Dennis Moser for example and incidentally he uses (very) long Delays more than "pure" Loops, if i'm not wrong.Indeed the horizontal Motion is saved here and Layering and effect processings are not constrictings. In fact, i bielieve that a good way to understand WHAT is Looping is to begin to work with short delays and little by little ending with long and finally,conventional Loop techniques. The survey of Krispen Hartung was necessary cause it reminds us that first we pretend to be Musicians, not "Mad professors" and there is a lot of work to do on our Instrument. PS: I'm a born Bass Player,and i don't intend to shift to Guitar for the sake of Looping (no offence).Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 14:38:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A55413BEB9; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KUo9kJzw1lGWbwr4eI6YC+/nHMob0O8QLqwTqQYp7gE=; b=Mk+lIU5ASKYyYKFWVrMHXL/JV6QKVcjavtgM7U/jczHL6oYfMJyR9+36q1Vc0B2G4N BdBuZXYJPqh8BQ+lONnW7qSSkSIWXz+UGkrXDHBTyhJQfzmt/Mz1acLGJfA/BZEwmoCH awp2x3FnH9qrwLEFYe3M0CiWY/ptx8ZRUSQK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=RDCb6SGHhBUHcBjJ3N1gB1pXKWCxZZxn8WBj3KLeZhNpvD/z10IyMRRnAWw9BsJWmh 6P7p/V/WAJt8j9qTb8ngFxaTONDr4rtmdzGn8+1YBuhjLya0KjucIzkEUn8U6bBKOFRP vH1OXG+SlvuRBzQT8di/kyqPWvAl98RgqgUIE= Message-ID: <4cf76a0b0807230738q7f017479m3fa0a8d8bdda03f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:38:02 -0700 From: "miles ward" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <005901c8ec7c$dc3ca180$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8606_33138737.1216823882310" References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <005901c8ec7c$dc3ca180$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:38:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8606_33138737.1216823882310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Conveniently, the tuba provides mad bass on minimal cheese-steak based power sources. My line of normal work will be shot (couldn't be more digital) so i'd have to switch over and loop via underground parking garages and earn a living carrying heavy things. Cool!-Miles On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > You are exactly right, Travis. Not to get to sci-fi, but in the extreme > sense my question assumed some electro-magnetic phenomenon that prevented > any generation of electricity - though I know that is very unlikely - but > hey, think of The Day the Earth Stood Still on steroids! :) > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" is often > being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power company could no > longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I would find a way > to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!" > > To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power". > > TH > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung > wrote: > >> So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next >> 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For >> example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and >> powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question. >> >> What would you do? >> >> > > -- ---Miles Ward ------=_Part_8606_33138737.1216823882310 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Conveniently, the tuba provides mad bass on minimal cheese-steak based power sources.  My line of normal work will be shot (couldn't be more digital) so i'd have to switch over and loop via underground parking garages and earn a living carrying heavy things.  Cool!
-Miles

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
You are exactly right, Travis. Not to get to sci-fi, but in the extreme sense my question assumed some electro-magnetic phenomenon that prevented any generation of electricity  - though I know that is very unlikely - but hey, think of The Day the Earth Stood Still on steroids! :)  
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----

 
It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" is often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power company could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I would find a way to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!"

To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power".

TH

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question.

What would you do?
 




--
---Miles Ward
------=_Part_8606_33138737.1216823882310-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 14:39:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3BAD3BEAF; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zEG+OxVFDZPRa1f+jndhJe3UXB4P/M+XYLKi/r69mhA=; b=s3sAUKbtcXd5bY4a11atNM4LHXDop0Mt6/2/Bjf6My+IHKM/MkUsb8xYDlo24LKrDX r8w8ED0Hse0MCKDWprWrVzPoRUHaLxzTj3RezlrkuP5nE0KzUizmxdYzjibQqkztSXnq qy4AalV7Hh+MyXprcWbywNO5YUobneEYNUu7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jsTxJFhwHvwCH5JQ9wDzzvm/A+mPsxdNuWGjLDHLlrkMvNs5UOEFE7z5E6goXthUZn OG7HytSmBwdnreN1nKEY5hXVqT75LurPPQDB1iScyoZpHzj2SnL3pdrQ2dvRKIPBtSMH GVVizKUx1TgMWqUuD5WuWswj0tk6zrQ+8uMk0= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807230739k427b3418j3f9cb3c2c07bbc2c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:39:50 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <4cf76a0b0807230738q7f017479m3fa0a8d8bdda03f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_99413_13541121.1216823990229" References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <005901c8ec7c$dc3ca180$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4cf76a0b0807230738q7f017479m3fa0a8d8bdda03f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6HrNzC.A.aNG.4K0hIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:39:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_99413_13541121.1216823990229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Or what might happen when we pass through the center of the galactic plane on 12/21/12 at 11:11.... > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> You are exactly right, Travis. Not to get to sci-fi, but in the extreme >> sense my question assumed some electro-magnetic phenomenon that prevented >> any generation of electricity - though I know that is very unlikely - but >> hey, think of The Day the Earth Stood Still on steroids! :) >> >> Kris >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" is often >> being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power company could no >> longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I would find a way >> to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!" >> >> To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power". >> >> TH >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung >> wrote: >> >>> So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next >>> 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For >>> example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and >>> powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question. >>> >>> What would you do? >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > ---Miles Ward > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_99413_13541121.1216823990229 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Or what might happen when we pass through the center of the galactic plane on 12/21/12 at 11:11....
 


On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
You are exactly right, Travis. Not to get to sci-fi, but in the extreme sense my question assumed some electro-magnetic phenomenon that prevented any generation of electricity  - though I know that is very unlikely - but hey, think of The Day the Earth Stood Still on steroids! :)  
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----

 
It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" is often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power company could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I would find a way to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!"

To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power".

TH

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar panels and wind power, and powering an amp and looper was a complete luxury and out of the question.

What would you do?
 




--
---Miles Ward



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_99413_13541121.1216823990229-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 14:42:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE93A3BECC; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <137924482.1216824176826.JavaMail.root@ccprodapp24> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:42:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Travis Lund Reply-To: Travis Lund To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re[2]: What would loopers do without power? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9389_137922816.1216824176826" X-Mailer: CC Mailer IV 3.0 Resent-Message-ID: <9ErmyD.A.LWG.zN0hIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:42:59 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9389_137922816.1216824176826 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If we're going with an absolute YOU CANNOT GET POWER ANYWHERE scenario, I s= uspect we'd all either shed until we became masters at solo performance on = our respective instruments, or, you know, join bands. =A0(Or we'd all start= folk duos, I don't know . . .) =A0 -Travis --------------------------------------- Original E-mail=20 From: miles ward Date: 07/23/2008 10:38 AM=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Conveniently, the tuba provides mad bass on minimal cheese-steak based powe= r sources.=A0=A0My line of normal work will be shot (couldn't be more digit= al) so i'd have to switch over and loop via underground parking garages and= earn a living carrying heavy things. =A0Cool! -Miles On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Krispen Hartung wr= ote: You are exactly right, Travis. Not to get to sci-fi, but in the extreme sen= se my question assumed some electro-magnetic phenomenon that prevented any = generation of electricity=A0 - though I know that is very unlikely - but he= y, think of The Day the Earth Stood Still on steroids! :)=A0=A0=20 =A0 Kris =A0 =A0 ----- Original Message -----=20 =A0 =A0 =A0 It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" =A0is of= ten being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power company =A0co= uld no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I would find= =A0a way to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!" To me that =A0doesn't seem to be really "doing without power". TH =A0 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung wr= ote: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 So, let's say hypothetically a major =A0 =A0catastrophe occurred in the ne= xt 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent =A0 =A0(unlikely) or highly = scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on =A0 =A0solar panels and= =A0wind power,=A0and powering an amp and looper was a =A0 =A0complete luxu= ry and out of the question. =A0 =A0 What would you do? =A0 =A0 =A0 --=20 ---Miles Ward ------=_Part_9389_137922816.1216824176826 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If we're going with an absolute YOU CANNOT GET POWER ANYWHERE s= cenario, I suspect we'd all either shed until we became masters at solo per= formance on our respective instruments, or, you know, join bands. =A0(Or we= 'd all start folk duos, I don't know . . .) =A0
-Travis
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Original E-mail
From: miles= ward <miles932@gmail.com>
Date: 07/23/2008 10:38 AM
To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: What would loopers do withou= t power?

Conveniently, the tuba provides= mad bass on minimal cheese-steak based power sources.=A0=A0My line of norm= al work will be shot (couldn't be more digital) so i'd have to switch over = and loop via underground parking garages and earn a living carrying heavy t= hings. =A0Cool!
=20 -Miles

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM, K= rispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
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You are exactly right, Travis. Not to = get to=20 sci-fi, but in the extreme sense my question assumed some electro-magnetic= =20 phenomenon that prevented any generation of electricity=A0 - though I know= =20 that is very unlikely - but hey, think of The Day the Earth Stood Still on= =20 steroids! :)=A0=A0
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Kris
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It seems that the question "What would loopers do with= out power?"=20 =A0is often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power compa= ny=20 =A0could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I woul= d find=20 =A0a way to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!"

To = me that=20 =A0doesn't seem to be really "doing without power".

TH

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Har= tung <khartun= g@cableone.net> wrote:
=20 =A0
=20 =A0 =A0
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So, let's say hypothetically a= major=20 =A0 =A0catastrophe occurred in the next 2-3 decades, and power became non-= existent=20 =A0 =A0(unlikely) or highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rel= y on=20 =A0 =A0solar panels and=A0wind power,=A0and powering an amp and looper was= a=20 =A0 =A0complete luxury and out of the question.
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What would you do?
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------=_Part_9389_137922816.1216824176826-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 15:38:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5D563BEAE; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=AJZpZWc26ts+2dcHPYL0Pqqx2W5YkSKAnKDR5P8Wzs7O3goPFN1kFg+bRQAme9qsW1P1jSaPi0PrANar4MoYO3hm8kTqp/MCCWDsc6xvsWG7hMU0ev7tpgTVUiMTclxQvEPkmrw58KXrCTcAXcZ1bpjzXezcCLw4T6zpaMjYzIU=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:38:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: Re: More on Pretec CFCs and the Tima Tec Site To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-778299285-1216827529=:27390" Message-ID: <586721.27390.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:38:50 +0000 (UTC) --0-778299285-1216827529=:27390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi again, A couple people have written me asking about prices on the Tima Tec site for the Pretec CFCs. I posted this info on the repeater users list, and am hoping that for people subscribed to both, that the redundant posts aren't getting too annoying. But since I know some people may be repeater users but not subscribed to the repeater users list--I've included the info here as well. When I called Monday, the prices I was quoted (not including shipping) were: 99.99 for the 512 MB card 79.99 for the 256MB card 57.79 for the 128MB card I forgot to ask whether this is value in Canadian $ or US $ (I was just so happy to find them, and find that they have them in stock I ordered without asking), but seeing as the value of both the Canadian $ and the US $ are more or less equivalent right now (when I checked a couple days ago I think it was something like .9950 [US] : 1 [CAN]), it doesn't seem to make much difference (although I realize it might for buyers outside the US). The shipping price on the invoice I got today was 9.00 for Fed Ex Ground from Fremont, CA (the site of the warehouse they actually ship the cards from) to my place here in Columbus, OH. They are scheduled to arrive Saturday (the folks at Tima Tec are fast--FedEx had them listed as being dropped off in Fremont Monday night, the same day I called). Once I get mine, I will report back on how they work. Given the previous reports from others here and on the repeater users list concerning their success with them, I'm assuming this will be a non-issue though. If time permits, I'll also try to finally get around to a more general review of the 2.1.04 OS, since I know some folks who haven't upgraded to it, or aren't repeater users, have posted queries about how it fares. (It seems like a lot of us who have upgraded have been so busy playing with it, we haven't gotten round to posting much on it yet.) Best, David --0-778299285-1216827529=:27390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi again,

A couple pe= ople have written me asking about prices on the Tima Tec site for the Prete= c CFCs. I posted this info on the repeater users list, and am hoping that f= or people subscribed to both, that the redundant posts aren't getting too a= nnoying. But since I know some people may be repeater users but not subscri= bed to the repeater users list--I've included the info here as well.=

<= /div>
When I called Monday, the prices I was quoted (not includ= ing shipping) were:

99.99 for the 512 MB card
79.99 for the 256MB= card
57.79 for the 128MB card

I forgot to ask whether this is va= lue in Canadian $ or US $ (I was just so happy to find=A0them, and=A0find t= hat they have them in stock I ordered without asking), but seeing as=A0the = value of both the Canadian $ and the US $ are=A0more or less equivalent rig= ht now (when I checked a couple days ago I think it=A0was=A0something like = .9950 [US] : 1 [CAN]), it doesn't seem to make much difference (although I = realize it might for buyers outside the US).

The shipping price on the invoice I got today w= as 9.00 for Fed Ex Ground from Fremont, CA (the site of the warehouse they = actually ship the cards from) to my place here in Columbus, OH.=A0

They are sche= duled to arrive Saturday (the folks at Tima Tec are fast--FedEx had them li= sted as being dropped off in Fremont Monday night, the same day I called).<= /span>

<= /span>
Once I get mine, I will report bac= k on how they work. Given the previous reports from others here and on the = repeater users list concerning their success with them, I'm assuming this w= ill be a non-issue though.=A0

If time permits, I'll also try to finally get arou= nd to a more general review of the 2.1.04 OS, since I know some folks who h= aven't upgraded to it, or aren't repeater users, have posted queries about = how it fares. (It seems like a lot of us who have upgraded have been so bus= y playing with it, we haven't gotten round to posting much on it yet.)=A0

Best,

David
=0A=0A --0-778299285-1216827529=:27390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 15:56:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 722553BEC0; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:56:41 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4cf76a0b0807230738q7f017479m3fa0a8d8bdda03f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080723155641.222770@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <06c501c8eb39$8f7c7260$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <005901c8ec7c$dc3ca180$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4cf76a0b0807230738q7f017479m3fa0a8d8bdda03f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18/n11YrOo/L+nsBpOTWm6HRfPhrPmfa2Oyiddx3e b2uyuTc/2KxHubhg1+UBJJeSWDgLcOcyjHCg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 1znlHEJ3bXB+asxpyTU25ikiLyUmZUj/ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Actually, I was surprised that nobody came up with playing piano. Before I turned to looping, it was my instrument of choice for solo improvisation. I still prefer it for classical music. But for the stuff I'm usually doing, I'm better of with my RC-50. Still, I'd dare to say that no other single acoustic instrument offers that much possibility for solo improvisation. Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 15:58:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EE933BEC3; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RnrMq1LRH4Dh3CQs4REA:9 a=ttrJX31188lJylKw69QA:7 a=hPNQnswFvi2ijstAyU0zTasQuygA:4 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 Message-ID: <48875509.2070806@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:58:01 +0200 From: Claude Voit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Strategies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <6tQqdB.A.I3H.MU1hIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:58:04 +0000 (UTC) although I agree with a lot, if not all of what you say you will still get my 2 or 3 remarks... Your post is looking as a 100% trolling post. You dont introduce yourself as a newcommer and you dont sign either, so mr. troll, show some netiquette, politeness, or you will not be welcomed at all. Claude Jah Jast a écrit : > First of all sorry for my Pidgin English. > I'm gonna be unpopular i'm sure but here is some thoughts about Looping. > > At the first Stade the aspiring Looper is animated by what i would call "the syndrome of the One Man Band" . > More than Ego (though it is a bit) this is often a problem of lack of confidence along with technique which leads him here.(Tracy Chapman can do a great Song with just an acoustic guitar and 3 or 4 chords no more...) > The loop strategy here consists in Layering part onto part and try to simulate a band. > Soon he realizes that as fun as it is,it is a sterile way. > Then he tends now to become a kind of "Sound Designer".This is the second Stade.The cause here is often a problem of lack of Inspiration,if the one of technique is now improved... > Accumulate all type of effects is now the Quest.The goal is to sound like a synthesizer even if he plays flute.The loop strategy is now again Layering part onto part onto part....But to be convincing,that requires time (and patience for listeners)... > And you are stuck in a "vertical motion" (which is not the case with a Synthesizer.) > This is why i have some problems with the layering Concept. > Every time i listen to Loopers (less and less) i play briefly the begining,the middle,and the end of the track and if i can notice the same loop there and there, then i quit... > I really appreciate an approach like the one of Dennis Moser for example and incidentally he uses (very) long Delays more than "pure" Loops, if i'm not wrong.Indeed the horizontal Motion is saved here and Layering and effect processings are not constrictings. > In fact, i bielieve that a good way to understand WHAT is Looping is to begin to work with short delays and little by little ending with long and finally,conventional Loop techniques. > The survey of Krispen Hartung was necessary cause it reminds us that first we pretend to be Musicians, not "Mad professors" and there is a lot of work to do on our Instrument. > > PS: I'm a born Bass Player,and i don't intend to shift to Guitar for the sake of Looping (no offence).Thanks. > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 16:00:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68FE03BECA; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Q7wjNq++h+cXOUo21oFml1fZhYP3jiAEK1qOVPHeh80zSjVz1MkmGMeCsU+t7U8LJVxKUln3IRZ76nmLPQ0NKkgx6+3sRwcaoIndEBhVvUxq+kJMOQZ/4upO3h+MzMWfsNuamjPbgl7h53BMMnFlB4XIYMNbbEc4GU47Vc/bA+k=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:00:54 -0700 (PDT) From: andy garber Subject: RE:Looping Strategies To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1060957294-1216828854=:26738" Message-ID: <113044.26738.qm@web51710.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2J3CDB.A.m7H.4W1hIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:00:56 +0000 (UTC) --0-1060957294-1216828854=:26738 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, I could def be accused of some of these things, ie..lack of a great set of chops or the like. But, I've been attracted to looping for these reasons: 1. I'm getting older and it's just damn hard to organize w/ a bunch of peoples' ever changing priorities, musical tastes, responsiblities, etc... 2. I've always wanted to mix a sort of organic-electric beat sound into my music. A Handsonic serves me well in this case; I play it naturally w/out a strict drum machine sound and loop it on into the mix - this is something that I've always wanted to hear and have just come to the realization of how to do it (w/ out sitting behind a computer). 3. I love to play a variety of instruments bass, guitar, percussion, singing, etc....and now I can do it all! (Maybe I'm just greedy). 4. I guess this is kinda like #1 but, I can now change and flex my show/style according to a gig; I can play an experimental type gig w/ noise and loops, I can work some of my simpler arrangements and structured stuff or I could go completely ambient and just float away. All this w/ out the need to consult a bunch of other people on musical tastes (see #1) 5. And not that I'm even gigging quite yet w/ my new EDP but, if I did happen to make any money doing, there'd be more of it. I have no doubt that some of the things you were saying about the progress of a looper are true and will readily admit to some of them; however, there are more forces at work here in my own brain. And that's my $0.02. -Andy G PS - Consequently I find it super fun to jam w/ other folks and have some loose impov loop sessions. Just cause I'm planning things on my own doesn't mean I ever, ever, want to stop interacting w/ other musicians. I love the feeling of being independent and not reliant. --0-1060957294-1216828854=:26738 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well, I could def be accused of some of these things, ie..lack of a great set of chops or the like.
But, I've been attracted to looping for these reasons:
1.  I'm getting older and it's just damn hard to organize w/ a bunch of peoples' ever changing
     priorities, musical tastes, responsiblities, etc...
2.  I've always wanted to mix a sort of organic-electric beat sound into my music.  A Handsonic
     serves me well in this case; I play it naturally w/out a strict drum machine sound and loop it
    on into the mix - this is something that I've always wanted to hear and have just come to the
    realization of how to do it (w/ out sitting behind a computer).
3. I love to play a variety of instruments bass, guitar, percussion, singing, etc....and now I can
    do it all! (Maybe I'm just greedy).
4. I guess this is kinda like #1 but, I can now change and flex my show/style according to a gig;
    I can play an experimental type gig w/ noise and loops, I can work some of my simpler arrangements
    and structured stuff or I could go completely ambient and just float away. All this w/ out the need
    to consult a bunch of other people on musical tastes (see #1)
5. And not that I'm even gigging quite yet w/ my new EDP but, if I did happen to make any
    money doing, there'd be more of it.

I have no doubt that some of the things you were saying about the progress of a looper are true
and will readily admit to some of them; however, there are more forces at work here in my own brain.

And that's my $0.02.

-Andy G

PS - Consequently I find it super fun to jam w/ other folks and have some loose impov loop sessions.
Just cause I'm planning things on my own doesn't mean I ever, ever, want to stop interacting w/ other
musicians.  I love the feeling of being independent and not reliant.


--0-1060957294-1216828854=:26738-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 16:06:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17BDE3BECD; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <168523217.1216829205250.JavaMail.root@ccprodapp30> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:06:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Travis Lund Reply-To: Travis Lund To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re[2]: What would loopers do without power? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9678_168552881.1216829205250" X-Mailer: CC Mailer IV 3.0 Resent-Message-ID: <-vS8jC.A.wO.Vc1hIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:06:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9678_168552881.1216829205250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Buzap, I completely agree that piano is the most versatile of acoustic instruments= , and would be the ideal in the case of a non-powered world. =A0Of course, = the darn things are a little harder to tote to a gig than a guitar . . . Someone mentioned a parking structure earlier (I assume for the natural del= ay?) =A0We could customize a place like that to give different slapbacks an= d such depending on where you're standing, get four or five folks and creat= e loops au natural. =A0I mean, if we don't even have electricity Im guessin= g cars will be out as well in this hypothetical scenario, so no one will ne= ed the space . . . :) -Travis --------------------------------------- Original E-mail=20 From: Buzap Buzap Date: 07/23/2008 11:56 AM=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Actually, I was surprised that nobody came up with playing piano. Before I turned to looping, it was my instrument of choice for solo improvi= sation.=20 I still prefer it for classical music. But for the stuff I'm usually doing,= I'm better of with my RC-50. Still, I'd dare to say that no other single acoustic instrument offers that= much possibility for solo improvisation. Buzap --=20 Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ------=_Part_9678_168552881.1216829205250 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Buzap,
I completely agree = that piano is the most versatile of acoustic instruments, and would be the = ideal in the case of a non-powered world. =A0Of course, the darn things are= a little harder to tote to a gig than a guitar . . .
Someone men= tioned a parking structure earlier (I assume for the natural delay?) =A0We = could customize a place like that to give different slapbacks and such depe= nding on where you're standing, get four or five folks and create loops au = natural. =A0I mean, if we don't even have electricity Im guessing cars will= be out as well in this hypothetical scenario, so no one will need the spac= e . . . :)
-Travis
-----------------------= ----------------
Original E-mail
From: Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net= >
Date: 07/23/2008 11:56 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om
Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power?

A= ctually, I was surprised that nobody came up with playing piano.
=20 Before I turned to looping, it was my instrument of choice for solo improvi= sation.
=20 I still prefer it for classical music. But for the stuff I'm usually doing,= I'm better of with my RC-50.
=20 Still, I'd dare to say that no other single acoustic instrument offers that= much possibility for solo improvisation.
=20
=20 Buzap
=20 --
=20 Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt?
=20 Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger
=20
=20
------=_Part_9678_168552881.1216829205250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 16:16:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 222713BED0; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:16:14 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: RE:Handsonic MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:16:16 +0000 (UTC) > Andy wrote > I've always wanted to mix a sort of organic-electric beat sound into > my music. A Handsonic serves me well in this case; I play it naturally= > w/out a strict drum machine sound and loop it on into the mix - this > is something that I've always wanted to hear and have just come to the = > realization of how to do it (w/ out sitting behind a computer). I tested a Handsonice recently and imo it is a good instrument and fun to= play too. Which one do you use? --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 16:17:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E6DC3BED6; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 48066309/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.240.242 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.240.242 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvYAAG72hkhPTvDy/2dsb2JhbAAIskNFgn8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,239,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="48066309" Message-ID: <48875984.3050504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:17:08 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Strategies References: <97511.99777.qm@web110102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <97511.99777.qm@web110102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Jah Jast wrote: > First of all sorry for my Pidgin English. > I'm gonna be unpopular i'm sure but here is some thoughts about Looping. Well it's an interesting analysis, but seems very dated. Shows signs that you didn't check out all the crazy stuff that's possible with loops...things that appeared within the last decade. Suggest you start by checking out Andre Lafosse, for instance. Perhaps you might want to consider the idea that the loop device is an instrument. (or part of the instrument). andy butler ps...yep, I'm not recommending that bass players switch to guitar, just explaining why I did that myself...because that question was asked. I *like* looping bass players. pps you may find that replies to your post go just to you, rather than to the list. In order to fix that, remove your email address from the field in your email account. > > At the first Stade the aspiring Looper is animated by what i would call "the syndrome of the One Man Band" . > More than Ego (though it is a bit) this is often a problem of lack of confidence along with technique which leads him here.(Tracy Chapman can do a great Song with just an acoustic guitar and 3 or 4 chords no more...) > The loop strategy here consists in Layering part onto part and try to simulate a band. > Soon he realizes that as fun as it is,it is a sterile way. > Then he tends now to become a kind of "Sound Designer".This is the second Stade.The cause here is often a problem of lack of Inspiration,if the one of technique is now improved... > Accumulate all type of effects is now the Quest.The goal is to sound like a synthesizer even if he plays flute.The loop strategy is now again Layering part onto part onto part....But to be convincing,that requires time (and patience for listeners)... > And you are stuck in a "vertical motion" (which is not the case with a Synthesizer.) > This is why i have some problems with the layering Concept. > Every time i listen to Loopers (less and less) i play briefly the begining,the middle,and the end of the track and if i can notice the same loop there and there, then i quit... > I really appreciate an approach like the one of Dennis Moser for example and incidentally he uses (very) long Delays more than "pure" Loops, if i'm not wrong.Indeed the horizontal Motion is saved here and Layering and effect processings are not constrictings. > In fact, i bielieve that a good way to understand WHAT is Looping is to begin to work with short delays and little by little ending with long and finally,conventional Loop techniques. > The survey of Krispen Hartung was necessary cause it reminds us that first we pretend to be Musicians, not "Mad professors" and there is a lot of work to do on our Instrument. > > PS: I'm a born Bass Player,and i don't intend to shift to Guitar for the sake of Looping (no offence).Thanks. > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 16:36:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25AE03BEC9; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_3210473075035088 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:37:01 -0500 Subject: re: RE:Handsonic From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: <17fb76327fd34a5d896ee1aec2c6d6bc@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:36:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_3210473075035088 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0AI'll second that ... I am incredibly happy with my handsonic ..= .... it works particularly well for looping because it is a bit hard to jam= / solo on, but very easy to generate a nice beat with and then loop that.= =0D=0A=0D=0AThe pressure sensitivity is really nicely acute too. =0D=0A=0D= =0A----------------------------------------=0D=0AFrom: "Sjaak" =0D=0ASent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:16 AM=0D=0ATo: "Loopers-Del= ight" =0D=0ASubject: RE:Handsonic =0D= =0A=0D=0A> Andy wrote=0D=0A> I've always wanted to mix a sort of organic-el= ectric beat sound into =0D=0A> my music. A Handsonic serves me well in thi= s case; I play it naturally=0D=0A> w/out a strict drum machine sound and lo= op it on into the mix - this =0D=0A> is something that I've always wanted t= o hear and have just come to the =0D=0A> realization of how to do it (w/ ou= t sitting behind a computer).=0D=0A=0D=0AI tested a Handsonice recently and= imo it is a good instrument and fun to play too. Which one do you use? =0D= =0A=0D=0A--- =0D=0ASjaak=0D=0Ahttp://www.livelooping.be/=0D=0Ahttp://eurolo= opfest.com/sjaak/=0D=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_3210473075035088 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'll second that ... I am incredibly happy with my handsonic ......= it works particularly well for looping because it is a bit hard to jam / s= olo on, but very easy to generate a nice beat with and then loop that.
<= br>The pressure sensitivity is really nicely acute too.

From: "Sjaak" <tcplugin@scarlet.be>Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:16 AM
To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: RE:Handsonic

> Andy wrote
> I'= ve always wanted to mix a sort of organic-electric beat sound into
>= my music. A Handsonic serves me well in this case; I play it naturally> w/out a strict drum machine sound and loop it on into the mix - this =
> is something that I've always wanted to hear and have just come to= the
> realization of how to do it (w/ out sitting behind a computer= ).

I tested a Handsonice recently and imo it is a good instrument an= d fun to play too. Which one do you use?

---
Sjaak
http://ww= w.livelooping.be/
http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/
http://www.myspace.c= om/sjaakovergaauw=0D=0A


------_SmarterMail_NextPart_3210473075035088-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 16:54:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F2EA3BE94; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4102 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:54:27 UTC Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:37:44 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48875048.1050208@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:54:27 +0000 (UTC) It occurred to me that a 'player piano' approach would be pretty simple, and that a 'looped' accompaniment could be prepared this way... In my case, I enjoy the improv process (danger and happy accidents being the key) so I might not want to have to pre-program the other instrument unless some sort of 'randomizer' could be applied. Given the caveat that electricity is un-invented, I might just answer 'I wouldn't loop any more'. Dan Ash White Plains, NY > > Subject: > Re: What would loopers do without power? > From: > "Krispen Hartung" > Date: > Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:30:38 -0600 > > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > You are exactly right, Travis. Not to get to sci-fi, but in the > extreme sense my question assumed some electro-magnetic phenomenon > that prevented any generation of electricity - though I know that is > very unlikely - but hey, think of The Day the Earth Stood Still on > steroids! :) > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" is > often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power company > could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the answers of "I > would find a way to generate electricity myself and continue looping!!" > > To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power". > > TH > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung > > wrote: > > So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the > next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or > highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar > panels and wind power, and powering an amp and looper was a > complete luxury and out of the question. > > What would you do? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 17:13:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 776113BEDB; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=z70iHFgHloosr3BUChZ1CUqxTbWfQH7OL3+XImm+Q6s=; b=RTos24bP3j5oCD9/Jh+WPrhrE6Fp9E2fIdfKIkOFtRP5pYaidpiEfRl5EmCYaEVV5i HRrdTrW4kR+GSEjKCHlmGVebWArxduHlqDuvtWkR5IPwWy4YGyYGFzcdVmcNEm3iLpkO YQjYLy/qzb1TaXw8tqlyRA4XfHcuE+MJdBrJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=jHFNngyxjx9IA3CqNeGUIvm9PhYhESWCQTX6QazWCtdZsXONeYz9Ff1P8I8ae0InvC +NBd1dvZmC9NBSnRXL2nBP1ry9x7ruk2B+VNyKnfH7GucBr7BOpug3dT07QWEDYtJex7 tB1bEuZDhp1CcbAT1zc6NfYFcfg6gQnGfbfac= Message-ID: <64b81a780807231013t7b77a241y6fbf397c5646ff9a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:13:29 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Alternative to YouTube In-Reply-To: <005b01c8ec73$afeb0b70$0fc12250$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080722154557.634043BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> <62658.208.162.64.63.1216755212.squirrel@waste.org> <1c3a4db00807221336i1473ba0ai91d977c65416020f@mail.gmail.com> <005b01c8ec73$afeb0b70$0fc12250$@com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:13:31 +0000 (UTC) I'll throw in a recommendation for Vimeo also. They'll let you upload beautiful 'HD' videos. I don't know about all the upload details, but Vimeo has become my favorite place to watch videos. T. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Tony K wrote: > For those of you who upload videos, check out www.viddler.com They have a > much higher max filesize (500 meg I believe). They have some neat features > like being able to comment or tag at a specific spot in a video, and > recording right from your webcam. > > I must admit that the president (Rob) once interned at our company and they > had their original offices right next to us, but I have no financial > interest in the company. I forgot about the site for over a year until > someone on the ambient list posted a video to viddler. > > Anyway, worth checking out. > > Tony > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 17:33:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7F8D3BEDC; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48875048.1050208@Verizon.net> References: <48875048.1050208@Verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6ADBEFC8-9068-4D7C-B6F7-9E8D3CA89FE2@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? / Kinetics Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:32:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <2fq8_B.A.4HC.Mt2hIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:33:00 +0000 (UTC) What about "kinetic" looping? Envision a set up that had a giant "squirrel cage" that the looper artist got into and ran inside of to generate the action of a series of wheels, pulleys, gears, etc that ended up striking strumming, whatever, a series of items what would respond to making sounds. Of course, this set up would be limited to one loop, or maybe it could further be developed to where the looper artist could leave the "cage", and go make some adjustments, or substitutions to the sound making items and get back into the "cage" and do his / her next "set". It could also be set up where a road crew of "technicians" were standing close by to somehow quickly switch out the sound making components, or to make some kinds of "adjustments" or whatever, as the "live" performance was occurring. Or even better, visualize a whole "orchestra" of these set ups with looper artists in each "cage" and have "cyclic" compositions a la Philip Glass, Steve Reich, etc, actually written out and conducted for something with a title like "Squirrel Cage Symphony". And, what a SIGHT that would be to see! Oh wait. I forgot. The human brain runs on a series of electrical impulses so I guess it is all not "electricity free" after all. Darn! I thought I HAD the answer! Oh well. back to the drawing board... -Rev. Fever PS- But regardless of the "failure" above, another version, and one that would likely be even easier to construct would be a set up that did not have the "cage", but was powered by a human ( or,even a chimpanzee! ) on a bicycle. I could also envision a whole "orchestra" of those as well. Excuse me now, I have to go drink some more green tea... On Jul 23, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Dan Ash wrote: > It occurred to me that a 'player piano' approach would be pretty > simple, and that a 'looped' accompaniment could be prepared this > way... > > In my case, I enjoy the improv process (danger and happy accidents > being the key) so I might not want to have to pre-program the other > instrument unless some sort of 'randomizer' could be applied. > Given the caveat that electricity is un-invented, I might just > answer 'I wouldn't loop any more'. > > Dan Ash > White Plains, NY > >> >> Subject: >> Re: What would loopers do without power? >> From: >> "Krispen Hartung" >> Date: >> Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:30:38 -0600 >> >> To: >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> >> You are exactly right, Travis. Not to get to sci-fi, but in the >> extreme sense my question assumed some electro-magnetic phenomenon >> that prevented any generation of electricity - though I know that >> is very unlikely - but hey, think of The Day the Earth Stood Still >> on steroids! :) Kris >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> It seems that the question "What would loopers do without power?" >> is often being interpreted as "What would loopers do if the power >> company could no longer provide electricity?", hence all the >> answers of "I would find a way to generate electricity myself and >> continue looping!!" >> >> To me that doesn't seem to be really "doing without power". >> >> TH >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Krispen Hartung >> > wrote: >> >> So, let's say hypothetically a major catastrophe occurred in the >> next 2-3 decades, and power became non-existent (unlikely) or >> highly scarce. For example, suppose we all had to rely on solar >> panels and wind power, and powering an amp and looper was a >> complete luxury and out of the question. >> >> What would you do? >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 18:18:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1FCA3BEDA; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3624 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:18:15 UTC Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:17:28 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: re: Looping Strategies To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <488767A8.9010509@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Some thoughts in response. I hope you don't take offense, but I have some problems with categorical statements even though I understand many of your observations about looping approaches. > "the syndrome of the One Man Band" "the syndrome of the One Man Band" is only a syndrome if you make a value judgment on the 'validity' of this as a musical art. Speaking for myself, I often use my guitar synth to construct a song form with all the typical accompaniment drums, bass, keys, pads, etc - the Repeater allows me to then solo over four simultaneous loops. Those loops can be mutated, reversed, etc for variety. I prefer creating all loops live except for a 'canned' drum loop, which in my mind fades quickly into the background. Yes - it's a one man band if you look at it that way. And if I understand you correctly, layering does indeed present a problem when a loop gets too 'dense' (vertical motion?). > "Sound Designer".This is the second Stade. OK, I might be in 'stage two' this week. During a looping set, I will sometimes go with a simpler theme - for example: a wash of sound or minimalist theme w/ no drums that evolves over time by varying feedback level. The technology allows you to take a very simple soundscape and create a mood or to serve as a bed to improvise over. But again it seems you're making a value judgment on your 'sound designers'. The problem IMO, may be that you have left the audience out of the equation. Hopefully the performer is trying to engage listeners at some level, because 'performance art' can't really exist in a vacuum. Many artists, in different mediums (painting, film, music) are confrontational, even abusive just to elicit a reaction in the observer. I happen to love effects and of course my guitar synth is really the same thing... You obviously find effects, even looping devices to be cliche, although I bet it took you some time experimenting with them in order to reach your conclusions. Also, the audience may not be as quick to label either the one-man-band or heavily processed sounds as cliches, especially if they're chatting with friends or people-watching. > play briefly the begining,the middle,and the end of the track and if i can notice the same loop there and there, then i quit... You've expressed your preference and your method of excluding a whole genre of performances. You've made a perfectly valid statement, and we all agree that no one has the time to listen to much of the sh** that is 'released' on the internet and readily available for download. But because you use a specific screening technique, I wonder if you are still willing to invest the time required see how a work evolves in real time or just find it easier to decide what you *don't* like and avoid listening to those genres. Many of my peers tend to exclude new or unfamiliar music -just like parents have done with the music every new generation adopts as their own. I also know people that just can't sit still and listen to music anymore - I sometimes have to actually force myself to do this. > Musicians, not "Mad professors" Some of us profess to being musicians first - other performers surely wish to create a 'mad professor' persona. Others here just want to entertain/amuse people. I remember Paul McCartney saying that the Beatles thought of themselves as 'entertainers' because the concept of a rock star hadn't even emerged. You are obviously a musician, but are making some sweeping statements about motivations for looping and the artistic merit of different approaches and applications. > i don't intend to shift to Guitar for the sake of Looping (no offence) None taken - but bass is a great instrument for looping, especially since looping can expand an understanding of musical roles not typically associated with the bass. Sorry - this got a bit too long - I presume we'll see other comments about your observations. Dan Ash White Plains, NY > Subject: > Looping Strategies > From: > Jah Jast > Date: > Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) > > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > First of all sorry for my Pidgin English. > I'm gonna be unpopular i'm sure but here is some thoughts about Looping. > > At the first Stade the aspiring Looper is animated by what i would call "the syndrome of the One Man Band" . > More than Ego (though it is a bit) this is often a problem of lack of confidence along with technique which leads him here.(Tracy Chapman can do a great Song with just an acoustic guitar and 3 or 4 chords no more...) > The loop strategy here consists in Layering part onto part and try to simulate a band. > Soon he realizes that as fun as it is,it is a sterile way. > Then he tends now to become a kind of "Sound Designer".This is the second Stade.The cause here is often a problem of lack of Inspiration,if the one of technique is now improved... > Accumulate all type of effects is now the Quest.The goal is to sound like a synthesizer even if he plays flute.The loop strategy is now again Layering part onto part onto part....But to be convincing,that requires time (and patience for listeners)... > And you are stuck in a "vertical motion" (which is not the case with a Synthesizer.) > This is why i have some problems with the layering Concept. > Every time i listen to Loopers (less and less) i play briefly the begining,the middle,and the end of the track and if i can notice the same loop there and there, then i quit... > I really appreciate an approach like the one of Dennis Moser for example and incidentally he uses (very) long Delays more than "pure" Loops, if i'm not wrong.Indeed the horizontal Motion is saved here and Layering and effect processings are not constrictings. > In fact, i bielieve that a good way to understand WHAT is Looping is to begin to work with short delays and little by little ending with long and finally,conventional Loop techniques. > The survey of Krispen Hartung was necessary cause it reminds us that first we pretend to be Musicians, not "Mad professors" and there is a lot of work to do on our Instrument. > > PS: I'm a born Bass Player,and i don't intend to shift to Guitar for the sake of Looping (no offence).Thanks. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 20:52:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00B623BED2; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=igKumw5swzhSOg09FaLk4vboGXmzplbBtSI9h7Ade1xSG/rpwuzAKCXDO964LANLfOOFfECpvx3YDuNmKuAcUSf6kxBLGAhy/hx5Xiebe1EllhkvBWSu/c16BotJgd8a4Wz2KUwU9FoevM1UNbmR5MgzQOcerKUKOMDcRdsIYfo=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:52:00 -0700 (PDT) From: andy garber Subject: RE:Handsonic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-59726983-1216846320=:42108" Message-ID: <451758.42108.qm@web51708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:52:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-59726983-1216846320=:42108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sjaak- I've got the big boy -HPD15. As far as the difference between that and the 10, the 15 has a built in sequencer, 2 extra ribbon controllers and if I'm not mistaken, a few more pad divisions on the top surface. If you're heavy into sequences, the built in one on the 15 will not impress you in the least. I mean, it works and all but finite control of the measures, is not there. It's pretty much a simple sequencer. That may or may not be the reason I've had troubles slaving my EDP to it. I've got it to work exactly like I wanted and then w/out changing a thing - it did not. Which is ok w/ me cause I really do like the more natural method of looping it directly in. Instead of trying to sync the thing I plan on getting more personal w/ the presets (which you can tweak and save your own kits - out of any sound in the machine) and just free flowing with a certain kit to a prescribed song. ie.. each song could have it's own sound/kit. Other than that over on the Handsonic yahoo group, the only major complaint I agree w/ is that it does not have seperate outs. Sometimes I think it'd be really nice to say, run the sequence to the mixer w/out sending it to the looper (AUX) and then be able to play some other things on top of it that did go to the loop. But, hey, at least it's stereo - guess all I need now is another EDP :) AndyGarber --0-59726983-1216846320=:42108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Sjaak-

I've got the big boy -HPD15.  As far as the difference between that and the 10,
the 15 has a built in sequencer, 2 extra ribbon controllers and if I'm not mistaken,
a few more pad divisions on the top surface.
If you're heavy into sequences, the built in one on the 15 will not impress you in the least.
I mean, it works and all but finite control of the measures, is not there.  It's pretty much a
simple sequencer.  That may or may not be the reason I've had troubles slaving my EDP
to it.  I've got it to work exactly like I wanted and then w/out changing a thing - it did not.
Which is ok w/ me cause I really do like the more natural method of looping it directly in.
Instead of trying to sync the thing I plan on getting more personal w/ the presets (which you
can tweak and save your own kits - out of any sound in the machine) and just free flowing
with a certain kit to a prescribed song. ie.. each song could have it's own sound/kit.

Other than that over on the Handsonic yahoo group, the only major complaint I agree w/ is
that it does not have seperate outs.  Sometimes I think it'd be really nice to say, run the sequence
to the mixer w/out sending it to the looper (AUX) and then be able to play some other things
on top of it that did go to the loop.  But, hey, at least it's stereo - guess all I need now is another
EDP :)

AndyGarber


--0-59726983-1216846320=:42108-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 21:12:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB5CC3BECF; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=J2Glg2p5J92sDtKDywvdfjgXol0lLqL9dxr8w3xnl2189C7hB1UHr/LJTt6KYwJzMoQ+RGXcknq82p6HJ5jIcNFlb92Y3ARsswYQztvo/kiBUm8F/ur1T9O1o2D719Jory3XvpYP7hLgKHBSMHjSLahYbVzRtiCWcGzhFlNtfUU=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:12:23 -0700 (PDT) From: andy garber Subject: RE:Handsonc To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1006905256-1216847543=:51174" Message-ID: <142566.51174.qm@web51706.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:12:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-1006905256-1216847543=:51174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I forgot to chime in on some other points. The sounds ARE really cool and you can tweak em any way you want. The response of the pads is really good. Not a real drum head but I'd say about 75% there. You can definitely get 4 different volumes out of one sound. There's a jack for the hi-hat pedal ( rarely use the actual drum kit sounds) and a jack for start/stop pedal for the sequencer. You can play this thing w/ your fingers, palms. I wouldn't recommend drum sticks but, I do use soft mallets sometimes. A wooden tip might not severely damage it but, it would scare the surface pretty bad. Ok - that's the extent of my knowledge for the time being. I got my head in like 3 manuals right now and havn't gotten any further. AndyGarber --0-1006905256-1216847543=:51174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I forgot to chime in on some other points.

The sounds ARE really cool and you can tweak em any way you want.
The response of the pads is really good. Not a real drum head but I'd
say about 75% there. You can definitely get 4 different volumes out of
one sound.
There's a jack for the hi-hat pedal ( rarely use the actual drum kit sounds)
and a jack for start/stop pedal for the sequencer.
You can play this thing w/ your fingers, palms.
I wouldn't recommend drum sticks but, I do use soft mallets sometimes.
A wooden tip might not severely damage it but, it would scare the surface
pretty bad.

Ok - that's the extent of my knowledge for the time being.
I got my head in like 3 manuals right now and havn't gotten any
further.

AndyGarber



--0-1006905256-1216847543=:51174-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 21:24:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D06853BEE1; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:24:46 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=kty58JYnyeXGfqSsSpaF9SlFsEQA1KijC6Ua3NAwmfHMgxFaTCUQ9YsqVCT4HXxFAgHGluUDLD51yC7ROLw96yUAeqnUv6CNfJAplIUdskFNjiXTzXIlJw8VMJnBAEBPyQZX0oZyLB+qtO1AptnJ34nSvol7wZmStsBRDRn3C84=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:18:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Marshall Reply-To: agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com Subject: RE:Handsonic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <451758.42108.qm@web51708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-720355329-1216847885=:25165" Message-ID: <74648.25165.qm@web51505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:24:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-720355329-1216847885=:25165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the HPD -15 as well as LOVE it for both live jamming and recording.= =A0 I agree the sequencer is nothing to rave about but then my favorite syn= th that I've had for 15 years doesn't even come with ANY sequencer (Roland = JD-800)=A0 !! Love the the tabla=A0presets just the way=A0they come; also=A0the conga pre= sets, with a little tweeking, mainly adding some length to the tones are mu= ch better than having to buy and lug around a trio of congas!=A0=20 Adding a couple of simple Boss on-off pedals and you have bass drum and a w= orkable high-hat and a whole set of great sounding drums.=A0 (no the cymbal= s don't sound that good but does ANYBODY at anyprice make realistic soundin= g electronic cymbal pads?) enjoy :-) =A0 "a cynic is an idealist that has given up" =A0 TRY NOT TO GIVE UP!!!!! =A0 MARC =A0=A0=A0=20 --- On Wed, 7/23/08, andy garber wrote: From: andy garber Subject: RE:Handsonic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 4:52 PM Sjaak- I've got the big boy -HPD15.=A0 As far as the difference between that and t= he 10,=20 the 15 has a built in sequencer, 2 extra ribbon controllers and if I'm not = mistaken, a few more pad divisions on the top surface. If you're heavy into sequences, the built in one on the 15 will not impress= you in the least. I mean, it works and all but finite control of the measures, is not there.= =A0 It's pretty much a=20 simple sequencer.=A0 That may or may not be the reason I've had troubles sl= aving my EDP=20 to it.=A0 I've got it to work exactly like I wanted and then w/out changing= a thing - it did not. Which is ok w/ me cause I really do like the more natural method of looping= it directly in. Instead of trying to sync the thing I plan on getting more personal w/ the = presets (which you=20 can tweak and save your own kits - out of any sound in the machine) and jus= t free flowing=20 with a certain kit to a prescribed song. ie.. each song could have it's own= sound/kit. Other than that over on the Handsonic yahoo group, the only major complaint= I agree w/ is=20 that it does not have seperate outs.=A0 Sometimes I think it'd be really ni= ce to say, run the sequence to the mixer w/out sending it to the looper (AUX) and then be able to play = some other things=20 on top of it that did go to the loop.=A0 But, hey, at least it's stereo - g= uess all I need now is another=20 EDP :) AndyGarber =0A=0A=0A --0-720355329-1216847885=:25165 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I have the HPD -15 as well as LOVE it for both live jamming and recording.  I agree the sequencer is nothing to rave about but then my favorite synth that I've had for 15 years doesn't even come with ANY sequencer (Roland JD-800)  !!

Love the the tabla presets just the way they come; also the conga presets, with a little tweeking, mainly adding some length to the tones are much better than having to buy and lug around a trio of congas! 
Adding a couple of simple Boss on-off pedals and you have bass drum and a workable high-hat and a whole set of great sounding drums.  (no the cymbals don't sound that good but does ANYBODY at anyprice make realistic sounding electronic cymbal pads?)

enjoy :-)

 

"a cynic is an idealist that has given up"

 

TRY NOT TO GIVE UP!!!!!

 
MARC
   


--- On Wed, 7/23/08, andy garber <andrewgarber@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: andy garber <andrewgarber@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE:Handsonic
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 4:52 PM

Sjaak-

I've got the big boy -HPD15.  As far as the difference between that and the 10,
the 15 has a built in sequencer, 2 extra ribbon controllers and if I'm not mistaken,
a few more pad divisions on the top surface.
If you're heavy into sequences, the built in one on the 15 will not impress you in the least.
I mean, it works and all but finite control of the measures, is not there.  It's pretty much a
simple sequencer.  That may or may not be the reason I've had troubles slaving my EDP
to it.  I've got it to work exactly like I wanted and then w/out changing a thing - it did not.
Which is ok w/ me cause I really do like the more natural method of looping it directly in.
Instead of trying to sync the thing I plan on getting more personal w/ the presets (which you
can tweak and save your own kits - out of any sound in the machine) and just free flowing
with a certain kit to a prescribed song. ie.. each song could have it's own sound/kit.

Other than that over on the Handsonic yahoo group, the only major complaint I agree w/ is
that it does not have seperate outs.  Sometimes I think it'd be really nice to say, run the sequence
to the mixer w/out sending it to the looper (AUX) and then be able to play some other things
on top of it that did go to the loop.  But, hey, at least it's stereo - guess all I need now is another
EDP :)

AndyGarber



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In-Reply-To: <48875048.1050208@Verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_78250_12583865.1216848805635" References: <48875048.1050208@Verizon.net> Resent-Message-ID: <_bIru.A.JdG.nO6hIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:33:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_78250_12583865.1216848805635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hook a tape loop/recording headl up to a water weel and use (can't think of the word) funnel or cone to amplify sounds, and another funnel to record. Increase water power for a shorter loop or to speed up loop. ------=_Part_78250_12583865.1216848805635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hook a tape loop/recording headl up to a water weel and use (can't think of the word) funnel or cone to amplify sounds, and another funnel to record.  Increase water power for a shorter loop or to speed up loop. ------=_Part_78250_12583865.1216848805635-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 22:20:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CED003BEE0; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 328798.37243.bm@omp102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=wVPwLFPQJEeZ2GWpR4Uo81dWkLrUDmf9OXbpYSMC6m0l9mrekqVpj/FO1MCLJJ+BclQUgU71ftFNkwm0dr1KQABeO7vTw0HGbqAmaUOsSvmC+9y8cQvUAO8xIhXAeCTAd8mowMSz4YU48KfIrcmGhDtRIV8StNzx/8vg2r+fJmY=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:20:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jah Jast Reply-To: jast81@yahoo.com Subject: re: Looping Strategies To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <488767A8.9010509@Verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <863924.15905.qm@web110102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Hello Dan, Thank you for your (cool) feedback. May i just say from the begining that i did not want to appear categorical = in my statements as i said to Claude Voit "en Fran=E7ais" privately (now i = know what is a "Troll" Claude!, thanks Wikipedia). But my bad English does not allow me more nuances.=20 > I often use my guitar synth to construct a song form with all=20 the typical accompaniment drums, bass, keys, pads, etc - the Repeater allow= s me to then solo over four simultaneous loops. Those loops can be mutated,= reversed, etc for variety. 1=B0You can compare this as the "Making-of"of a Movie.Interested to see onc= e("for the Trick").Moreover all the process take Time,more than usual for a= good song.Risk is you lost your listeners.Time-format is crucial here.That= 's why many Loopers end-up making Ambient(and please,i love Ambient). 2=B0If you want to play alone WHY imitate drums,bass,keys...? re:"for the Trick!".Is the Trick the only power of your Theme? > if I understand you correctly, layering does indeed present a problem whe= n a loop gets too 'dense' (vertical motion?). Not only,the problem is much about when all the Song/Theme is based upon on= e Loop ("begining/middle/end i quit"),you see?No Harmonic movement(Horizont= al motion),only Vertical motion(layering upon layering)Here starts Sound sy= nthesis. > "Sound Designer".This is the second Stage. OK, I might be in 'stage two' this week. lol... > The problem IMO, may be that you have left the audience out of the equati= on.=A0 Hopefully the performer is trying to engage listeners at some level,= because 'performance art' can't really exist in a vacuum. Well said!This is a recurrent problem with "looper" Artists: they seem to p= lay just for themselves; precisely because people don't care about all thos= e Tricks...That said i can understand the concept of 'Performance Art'.I sa= w one time at the television a Painter executing a painting of Marylin Monr= oe real-time in less than 6 minutes and WOA!!! i will never forget that.Thi= s is Talent! > play briefly the begining,the middle,and the end of the track and if i ca= n notice the same loop there and there, then i quit...=20 You've expressed your preference and your method of excluding a whole genre= of performances. As i said,i love (good) Ambient,the Music of Dennis Moser to name a few... > You are obviously a musician, but are making some sweeping statements abo= ut motivations for looping and the artistic merit of different approaches a= nd applications. I am a humble Musician not better than all of you i'm sure.=20 > but bass is a great instrument for looping, especially=20 since looping can expand an understanding of musical roles not typically as= sociated with the bass. That's why i don't intend to switch and...i own an EDP. > Sorry - this got a bit too long=20 You're welcome,I HAVE to thank you for your kind support.=20 Good luck with your Music! --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Dan Ash wrote: > From: Dan Ash > Subject: re: Looping Strategies > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 5:17 PM > Some thoughts in response. I hope you don't take > offense, but I have=20 > some problems with categorical statements even though I > understand many=20 > of your observations about looping approaches. >=20 > > "the syndrome of the One Man Band"=20 > "the syndrome of the One Man Band" is only a > syndrome if you make a=20 > value judgment on the 'validity' of this as a > musical art. Speaking for=20 > myself, I often use my guitar synth to construct a song > form with all=20 > the typical accompaniment drums, bass, keys, pads, etc - > the Repeater=20 > allows me to then solo over four simultaneous loops. Those > loops can be=20 > mutated, reversed, etc for variety. I prefer creating all > loops live=20 > except for a 'canned' drum loop, which in my mind > fades quickly into the=20 > background. Yes - it's a one man band if you look at it > that way. And if=20 > I understand you correctly, layering does indeed present a > problem when=20 > a loop gets too 'dense' (vertical motion?). >=20 > > "Sound Designer".This is the second Stade. > OK, I might be in 'stage two' this week. During a > looping set, I will sometimes go with a simpler theme - for > example: a wash of sound or minimalist theme w/ no drums > that evolves over time by varying feedback level. The > technology allows you to take a very simple soundscape and > create a mood or to serve as a bed to improvise over. =20 >=20 > But again it seems you're making a value judgment on > your 'sound designers'. The problem IMO, may be that > you have left the audience out of the equation. Hopefully > the performer is trying to engage listeners at some level, > because 'performance art' can't really exist in > a vacuum. Many artists, in different mediums (painting, > film, music) are confrontational, even abusive just to > elicit a reaction in the observer. I happen to love effects > and of course my guitar synth is really the same thing...=20 > You obviously find effects, even looping devices to be > cliche, although I bet it took you some time experimenting > with them in order to reach your conclusions. Also, the > audience may not be as quick to label either the > one-man-band or heavily processed sounds as cliches, > especially if they're chatting with friends or > people-watching. =20 >=20 >=20 > > play briefly the begining,the middle,and the end of > the track and if i can notice the same loop there and there, > then i quit...=20 > You've expressed your preference and your method of > excluding a whole=20 > genre of performances. You've made a perfectly valid > statement, and we=20 > all agree that no one has the time to listen to much of the > sh** that is=20 > 'released' on the internet and readily available > for download.=20 >=20 > But because you use a specific screening technique, I > wonder if you are=20 > still willing to invest the time required see how a work > evolves in real=20 > time or just find it easier to decide what you *don't* > like and avoid=20 > listening to those genres. Many of my peers tend to > exclude new or=20 > unfamiliar music -just like parents have done with the > music every new=20 > generation adopts as their own. I also know people that > just can't sit=20 > still and listen to music anymore - I sometimes have to > actually force=20 > myself to do this. >=20 > > Musicians, not "Mad professors"=20 > Some of us profess to being musicians first - other > performers surely=20 > wish to create a 'mad professor' persona. Others > here just want to=20 > entertain/amuse people. I remember Paul McCartney saying > that the=20 > Beatles thought of themselves as 'entertainers' > because the concept of a=20 > rock star hadn't even emerged. You are obviously a > musician, but are=20 > making some sweeping statements about motivations for > looping and the=20 > artistic merit of different approaches and applications.=20 >=20 > > i don't intend to shift to Guitar for the sake of > Looping (no offence) > None taken - but bass is a great instrument for looping, > especially=20 > since looping can expand an understanding of musical roles > not typically=20 > associated with the bass. >=20 >=20 > Sorry - this got a bit too long - I presume we'll see > other comments=20 > about your observations. >=20 > Dan Ash > White Plains, NY >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > > Subject: > > Looping Strategies > > From: > > Jah Jast > > Date: > > Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) > > > > To: > > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > > First of all sorry for my Pidgin English. > > I'm gonna be unpopular i'm sure but here is > some thoughts about Looping.=20 > > > > At the first Stade the aspiring Looper is animated by > what i would call "the syndrome of the One Man > Band" . > > More than Ego (though it is a bit) this is often a > problem of lack of confidence along with technique which > leads him here.(Tracy Chapman can do a great Song with just > an acoustic guitar and 3 or 4 chords no more...) > > The loop strategy here consists in Layering part onto > part and try to simulate a band. > > Soon he realizes that as fun as it is,it is a sterile > way. > > Then he tends now to become a kind of "Sound > Designer".This is the second Stade.The cause here is > often a problem of lack of Inspiration,if the one of > technique is now improved... > > Accumulate all type of effects is now the Quest.The > goal is to sound like a synthesizer even if he plays > flute.The loop strategy is now again Layering part onto part > onto part....But to be convincing,that requires time (and > patience for listeners)... > > And you are stuck in a "vertical motion" > (which is not the case with a Synthesizer.) > > This is why i have some problems with the layering > Concept. > > Every time i listen to Loopers (less and less) i play > briefly the begining,the middle,and the end of the track and > if i can notice the same loop there and there, then i > quit...=20 > > I really appreciate an approach like the one of Dennis > Moser for example and incidentally he uses (very) long > Delays more than "pure" Loops, if i'm not > wrong.Indeed the horizontal Motion is saved here and > Layering and effect processings are not constrictings. > > In fact, i bielieve that a good way to understand WHAT > is Looping is to begin to work with short delays and little > by little ending with long and finally,conventional Loop > techniques. > > The survey of Krispen Hartung was necessary cause it > reminds us that first we pretend to be Musicians, not > "Mad professors" and there is a lot of work to do > on our Instrument. > > > > PS: I'm a born Bass Player,and i don't intend > to shift to Guitar for the sake of Looping (no > offence).Thanks. > > > > > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 23:38:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A1F93BEEE; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=kt5GgvV3N+FciOxtomCq5UREp2bc4dkNe6w0hEgBGIQ=; b=AYtUru8VQzEV4vwzQN2tTr53HZk8a/odn4MivyFaHMwIn77MvSndDEafsXp7MqXz22 HAo60muhVeKEPZjHyjdHvfVUjCtutNLQiBbZCDeGXOi/PrKcwZmSPtKmhqf8Z2awSrtz 5dDezPxlgjmgE/qlvCEbvwm5zsIJOZ0AkXs+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=kS0PlZkOVIiZcDOVBGt7O8xblwpPv2tweERntwfwAiDwrMUJ16JI0tRP4aeC6elTjP e/o8WI/MDt9OX+ItNCy+7XRE4Dwlif8Vkuu+8Dt533s2m/inUSzASbKdJxghMq3LCocw MVMK88g2unscaGCJNPGxo1Po6K8IfdHEh+GlE= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:38:36 -0600 From: "Adam Hart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Free EDP - anyone want it? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_464_23495856.1216856316413" Resent-Message-ID: <3tYU_C.A.JKD.9D8hIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:38:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_464_23495856.1216856316413 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have an old Gibson EDP. The catch is that it doesn't work. Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and transmit cryptic messages to the display. If you want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping method. Adam ------=_Part_464_23495856.1216856316413 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I have an old Gibson EDP.  The catch is that it doesn't work.  Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and transmit cryptic messages to the display.  If you want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping method.

Adam
------=_Part_464_23495856.1216856316413-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 23 23:46:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6ACA3BEF6; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:46:19 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=EgpiANwHnvoTCFx9POUA:9 a=D__fNrbmOM33R6gItmcA:9 a=AjjVxcKeex_zh1MCRO9mk3RJ9VkA:4 a=hpF-ijbX5cwA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1F089332-2EA8-4403-891E-43346019D08E@yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Gaber Subject: Re: Free EDP - anyone want it? Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:40:48 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Where are you located? On Jul 23, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Adam Hart wrote: > I have an old Gibson EDP. The catch is that it doesn't work. > Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and > transmit cryptic messages to the display. If you want it I'll send > it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping method. > > Adam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 00:03:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D8B33BEF8; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00a501c8ed20$c351bf30$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:03:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:03:50 +0000 (UTC) I guess I would go back to the music that drew me to live looping in the first place: repetitive ostinato oriented music of the african and african diaspora paradigm, either on drums, string instruments, flutes, reeds, brass instruments, found sounds or voice. My first love of repeating interlocking parts came from listening to African music and Steve Reich (in particular, "Music for Strings, Percussion and Celeste" /Terry Riley/Philip Glass and also to a lot of the trancey-er kinds of repetive music from the "In A Silent Way/Bitches Brew" era that Miles Davis and all of his innovative bandmates innovated in the early 70's and the early ECM recordings (I think particularly of 'Sand Glass' by Eberhard Weber and 'Corinthian Melodies' by Art Lande and the Rubisa Patrol (with a young Mark Isham on trumpet). Seeing Jaco loop a bass harmonics part in the early 80's just turned me on fiercely as did the innovation of angalogue sequencers and drum machines in the 60's and 70's because they meant that I could make repetitive kinds of music without having to try and harangue other musicians into playing parts in a disciplined and minimalistic manner. I've always been a rhythmatist first (though I think of myself as almost more of a timbralist now) and I've always felt that the most interesting rhythms were the ones that were powerful enough and classic enough to bear repeting over and over.................their minimalism gave the most freedom, compositionally, to what was played over the top of them imho. It's why I love to loop but also why I don't feel like I have to loop. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 01:23:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E7263BEFB; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=YVqSq3uQFTTsXRR3KQ261SLwHlJYmrlRJv2WMXjVNm0=; b=SCJsNEBoPMGUHRH56TofpmxWp5/pKPJQl1VM5NK4rdTxn+mz4PTCywUDuaST0WH1YM OkyOTohWRNLcxuk62zQbAvWAyccFyuvwwMny3spfexp7Bdc+oFvkZx+zK0txmBmpKJ4u urY4pMAeVaHEh6ki1GjN5JNLU8vaJ5TOiPUjw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=yDZ3YIvTwNJ4CQ6gpBQ73IqosOqLPSqZDXMSbRn+3FyRLgZnJ2IBi4S0XIp4PO3THi TL4/Bi3+Zbmffd2rIcLI4IaSR2o4esrLf+fQQ/mJinfdZWkNFJnC88quyDqWt66CluUb szOqoh63wHfg4p7m8p93gWkLA9O6Zj8tE15C0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:23:55 -0600 From: "Adam Hart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Free EDP - anyone want it? In-Reply-To: <1F089332-2EA8-4403-891E-43346019D08E@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1082_10811764.1216862635483" References: <1F089332-2EA8-4403-891E-43346019D08E@yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:23:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1082_10811764.1216862635483 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wyoming, USA On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Chris Gaber wrote: > Where are you located? > > On Jul 23, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Adam Hart wrote: > > I have an old Gibson EDP. The catch is that it doesn't work. Aliens and >> demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and transmit cryptic >> messages to the display. If you want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - >> you choose the shipping method. >> >> Adam >> > > ------=_Part_1082_10811764.1216862635483 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Wyoming, USA

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Chris Gaber <fourstrng@yahoo.com> wrote:
Where are you located?

On Jul 23, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Adam Hart wrote:

I have an old Gibson EDP.  The catch is that it doesn't work.  Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and transmit cryptic messages to the display.  If you want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping method.

Adam


------=_Part_1082_10811764.1216862635483-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 03:21:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 935223BEA9; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=aGIUfzYAd5+CFyaIxGf7X/BqzaSR/BqcKOdcpi3vrv0=; b=Sd4XI30NeVgQDosWKZkt92+mtFa+sDVZdS/Ok6xva10y86EjpO9OKUDSF4tDv/LLzi gnDcA29Wx3X/lzXHhjHdEIuhtyLZyO0hk3mASOkagGfOgfo7qJ/da0THMshZSGe8qEB6 FSYAyRNzcPnaEiRzlRa4OlN+n/JC8YIaSnLRE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=i2UEG8aweuUy8zgr6NyRJAGIn2adR+73Om/5pjWcyDTMpIr4np+BeRjZyIL+IhDw40 kQh8qhn9GRhyjT4Hf2jcjbNCJVel6+IJF/AXI2+fVhDMjA5WG3aeQPdRgigUvsjVOUal Wp8GIQtw3epIb3rmXZfNASUn++z6U8B12HxvQ= Message-ID: <8c82d1660807232021m10f28a86sbd8d6854c693d6a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:21:22 -0400 From: "Patrick Suler" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1138_8422305.1216869682780" References: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <31whT.A.yCF.0U_hIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:21:24 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1138_8422305.1216869682780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That's an interesting question, and quite poignant. I actually am most proficient on guitar, but I only loop with a synthesizer. The first reason being, when I used to loop with a guitar, everything came out as a surf tune. Not bad, but it all sounded the "same-ish". Having learned guitar in the bluesy Led Zep 16 year old sorta way, I had to break out of that paradigm, and the only way to do that was to switch to a different instrument. With different muscle memories, and different textures. I knew a little bit of keyboard, so synth seemed a natural progression. On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Mech wrote: > > > Which leads to the question, "do you actually loop with the instrument > you > > are most proficient on? Why or why not?" > > > > For my part, I'm most comfortable on Bass, but I never loop on it (and, > for > > that matter, I only ever really pick one up a couple times a year). It's > > merely not as interesting to me as all the other little weirdo > instruments > > I've collected over time. I'm just a dilettante at heart, I guess. > > > > --m. > > > I use different instruments for the varying expression they bring. But > the music in my mind never changes as I learn new instruments, it was > there from the childhood even before I came to hear explicit music. > > When thinking a second time about your question I'm realizing that I > even consider looping "just another instrument" ;-)) ...as well as a > meta instrument. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > ------=_Part_1138_8422305.1216869682780 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

That's an interesting question, and quite poignant.

I actually am most proficient on guitar, but I only loop with a synthesizer. The first reason being, when I used to loop with a guitar, everything came out as a surf tune. Not bad, but it all sounded the "same-ish". 

Having learned guitar in the bluesy Led Zep 16 year old sorta way, I had to break out of that paradigm, and the only way to do that was to switch to a different instrument. With different muscle memories, and different textures. I knew a little bit of keyboard, so synth seemed a natural progression.


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:29 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

> Which leads to the question, "do you actually loop with the instrument you
> are most proficient on?  Why or why not?"
>
> For my part, I'm most comfortable on Bass, but I never loop on it (and, for
> that matter, I only ever really pick one up a couple times a year).  It's
> merely not as interesting to me as all the other little weirdo instruments
> I've collected over time.  I'm just a dilettante at heart, I guess.
>
>        --m.


I use different instruments for the varying expression they bring. But
the music in my mind never changes as I learn new instruments, it was
there from the childhood even before I came to hear explicit music.

When thinking a second time about your question I'm realizing that I
even consider looping "just another instrument" ;-))   ...as well as a
meta instrument.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen


------=_Part_1138_8422305.1216869682780-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 06:07:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9AAD3BEA2; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=MT8YKxL06d38X5zI6D+3Y8azUA3RPdPvb9bBTVYb1Lo=; b=evBOyPeGe/KTySC5TNK7Y3UBOPA8LK489vrUS2Jm4+2zAWI9GSKc8x8xlGfBAsBXtg gfsZqxmU71SSI9G1El6/iBNjnFbQFin6Dj89fnOBzsL9LZWjAE1X1RC58wjv0nMO2pbx vreL+sbf9x/NarVPLeVNW0RRQ2rNMEHQV7QoM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=V+8FubDOUqYHmuWdugfqlb0E2AyBtgQ63Tm9YDULr0uEZQcp2k/zgrcbdG28VmOkfQ bNHciTF5Lyou+/f7Y+AsXRUki583mLFtOBAhUYoDQz7skqtEQw7uQWcju38xanTJjoNq lETEPT5WkuZI7PTz+hxilwyk82RDNSPMt6dRw= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:07:21 +0200 From: "Byron Howell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drumming fitness In-Reply-To: <20080722185114.YU88L.174554.imail@fed1rmwml25> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0807221526w37841bf7y4e7851f0baba2399@mail.gmail.com> <20080722185114.YU88L.174554.imail@fed1rmwml25> Resent-Message-ID: <3T7UI.A.94.awBiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Does looping multiply the benefits? This is interesting because i came to looping through injury. I percieved it as a way that i could deligate the repetition of movement to the looper and take off some of the strain i was experiencing from traditional percussion/drum playing. Drummers are particularly prone to injury since they are using all four limbs performing a balancing act on ill suited stools for the purpose. The rigours of drumming eventually led to a career change and focus on spine balancing (the root of many physical woes). So i would have to whole heartedly agree that indeed drummers need to be extremely fit but so do all musicians. A old teacher used to refer to musicians as "small muscle athletes' and indeed that is what we are whether the machine does the repeating or not. Still a newbie looper, but see looping as a way to retain my feel and 'liveness' as a musician in live performance. a love of performing live prevented giving over to other side of pure programming for the sake of injury... although computer users are prone to the same repetitive strain injuries as musicians. i guess nowhere is completely safe. its refreshing to see musicians being compared to athletes. On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:51 AM, wrote: > actually, that was both, too. it was a worship group. > > a long way from when I was a kid, and music took me off the streets and into the bars, so my Mom always knew where I was :) > > but I was much older then... > > Tom > > > ---- mark francombe wrote: >> ... was that early morning playing or praying? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 06:36:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F1F83BEA9; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=W5wiveqGPYBnGGuTTmZFTFnK6nw7jj8SEt/yZ63q/KQ=; b=qiHMYYrTUXK5lU4pCWiAOwGEoz6aQrg8jr/Wa7dWsg3XFndIg/pj54FYRPY8vGRcAq FVjDJFgHuMVxb7Gmh2RV5NQF9HqqaumZM38jWMySyMw3OE3bR9NDFS9d8zeRJHFgpZ6t rnqHeyq8iMtOdj6LOfEGEWhUQXZKO5GcfIryw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ovnw2E+OGb1DdkbgV9p//IgKRfPQJtfNFfMwG+hbRkDSzFuYuaRULjeen+4VMzNQcX g6V2J6E+nqTolOfXkMZQSmwHcANn0YBA2OnXqe5KY8tue3hTL7cceqwYJWv7LMGBhG8e nSf6wTK73s2AM1isVlxRwW4ZNpNgib0sAWVFA= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:36:31 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: Syncing with Dr-880 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19566_21233108.1216881391962" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:36:33 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19566_21233108.1216881391962 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I am syncing with my dr rythym and i cant get my echoplex digital pro plus to stay in sync with the drum machine the quantize is off and the sync is set to in what am i doing wrong ?? ------=_Part_19566_21233108.1216881391962 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I am syncing with my dr rythym and i cant get my echoplex digital pro plus to stay in sync with the drum machine the quantize is off and the sync is set to in what am i doing wrong ??
------=_Part_19566_21233108.1216881391962-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 07:34:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B6BD3BEB9; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 51404203/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.155.253 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.155.253 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsAAEjNh0hPRpv9/2dsb2JhbAAIsTyDRA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,245,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="51404203" Message-ID: <48883090.6080409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:34:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Syncing with Dr-880 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Start with the edp in reset. Is the loop time being picked up and displayed by the edp after you start the drums? (the edp takes a bit of time to do this) If not, then wait to see if it will appear before starting the edp. If it doesn't appear, try hitting Overdub which will switch the sync on/off when the edp is in reset. Then wait again. Otherwise 1) check correct midi connection 2) check edp 8th/cycle matches drum time sig hope that helps andy butler Aaron Austin wrote: > I am syncing with my dr rythym and i cant get my echoplex digital pro > plus to stay in sync with the drum machine the quantize is off and the > sync is set to in what am i doing wrong ?? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 08:49:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 738433BE8E; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=t5WOpPfnaXONl7KxZSQVCr9undY80Yp0cDfsq8u8Qyk=; b=Hp+Yyvsai3soQ7IXZ40TdJEUPdbJB/DkbR1Ciy/OTqm/3jMJwWfj3jPiH72XhR/Le/ /+oH/+YZmGU6wHHclM3JpDUv/TsihJXJkwKJMmBv2Nz+47GHC7GeBxQPpe7QHARXNT0v iBpCU7VsXEApHW9PJ8whLRVo2uscW7q5TVtn4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=F3Dc7vaUygDN8/cFN8Bq45uXhW+ElPpit651P3v3Il4S12HQc/EJL4Jo72Ng1uHfhO 2tQ7h1GOAUuDxdp/nKoNG/n82FppSqqEFPIPzxD72GEjOOIoI2xjCBz+SchtlzHjV5NM u/32BbRVsE2+vbQxATXVMHMewE1acAeZC2gPI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807240149l1f007bd5h896e6043bd95eea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:49:17 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: <8c82d1660807232021m10f28a86sbd8d6854c693d6a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> <8c82d1660807232021m10f28a86sbd8d6854c693d6a1@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:49:18 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Patrick Suler wrote: > > That's an interesting question, and quite poignant. > > I actually am most proficient on guitar, but I only loop with a synthesizer. > The first reason being, when I used to loop with a guitar, everything came > out as a surf tune. Not bad, but it all sounded the "same-ish". > > Having learned guitar in the bluesy Led Zep 16 year old sorta way, I had to > break out of that paradigm, and the only way to do that was to switch to a > different instrument. With different muscle memories, and different > textures. I knew a little bit of keyboard, so synth seemed a natural > progression. So right on the spot, Patrick! When I was 16 I thought "OMG when I have learned to play like Hendrix it's gonna be just awesome!" Well, after learning to play those sounds on the guitar I just couldn't find the point in it. I wasn't interested in forming a cover band, but rather interested in what is lurking beyond the music. Some years went by while I was recruited to different bands and record projects as "a hired gun" until I finally realized I had to pick up a second instrument in order to "find my own way". I don't think piano players may suffer this problem as much as guitar players. As you're saying we (guitarists) are building up tiny muscular reflexes in order to access expression through the instrument, but these "body mutations" also makes it harder to play differently - if you should want to. Norwegian guitarist Eivind Aarset told me he took another road to pass this typical barrier by setting out to deliberately kill his darlings, as opposed to learning a new instrument. He made up his mind to never play one single note that "lives in his fingers". Myself, as I later on expanded into sax playing, I noticed that reed instruments are less "dominating" and feels closer to your voice, which in turn is even closest to the origin of your musical inspiration inside your mind. It took me five mouth pieces (I reshaped their resonance chamber with tools until the got broke or, finally, sounded great) and about as many different saxophones to come close to the sound I hear inside. Then I picked up looping and this "instrument" is just endless. There are no limit to how you can expand it to explore new expressions (if you are not mainly interested in "catching a loop and solo over it", that is ;-) As for my latest babe, the alto flute, I chose it in order to expand looping. It's a portable instrument with a tone that can acoustically vary from a clean sine wave to an overtone driven aggressive punch. And you can mount a mic on it that picks up your voice well too, which makes for a broader sound palette. Since starting on the flute four years ago I have felt a growing frustration whith playing guitar and sax because they do not have the percussive qualities of the flute; I mean using any combination of consonants to drive the attack of the sound - almost vocalizing. This frustration is the same that I felt with non twang bar guitars some decades ago, being a floating twang bar addict back then ;-)) My way of coping with this new frustration is to play fretless guitar, since that offers yet another quality that the flute doesn't already excel in delivering. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 08:58:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 782A23BE94; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TAXy0zcWKWBhrVeg3JLxO6ogYhgOWkPjp8f0i9NjTQ0=; b=UzdljKRG9m2ZP5h9oHz2G7M5lnIHNt9EDcDS1qD+xJjT5oLCKOX9XkIxqe/60nHH3p 40z7nC+XHqoJJ13oQ23g9JbQWDKvfWMpiOa11HxCIi46NwyPDa/gDlhsmBJGdMlYjUb4 xb0vLOf6isWFMkhesZnP2sOxI1iYP9dAEyn94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ox9UVEjxa52YYz+7RQOZrRHMqxKDxALgj+SvFf8PApT7YQ8pgSWpIn/3K23XOLw01X xPqnB9l0CprFtI+qvHtm9DXejxdbDkuSS3rmQznAH2/5msFWZxX4NLVzzxH/VuTpTQNl p2aWQQIqf8YlXYgsViOOKhwV01ToQ4E9AtgEc= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807240158i2135727aq6e50f50ef2c79360@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:58:50 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <00a501c8ed20$c351bf30$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <00a501c8ed20$c351bf30$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:58:53 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > It's why I love to loop but also why I don't feel like I have to loop. Just throwing that one back into the loop, in case someone missed it ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 09:18:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 520C93BE95; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009501c8ed6e$4a435010$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: Drumming fitness Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:18:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Byron wrote: "This is interesting because i came to looping through injury. I percieved it as a way that i could deligate the repetition of movement to the looper and take off some of the strain i was experiencing from traditional percussion/drum playing." Dear Bryan, There is an excellent thread on repetitive stress injuries, carpal tunnel syndrome , et. al. on the FRAMEDRUMMERS@yahoogroups.com Check it out! yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 09:41:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A90A03BEA9; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 620 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:41:54 UTC Message-ID: <00a801c8ed70$0d682bf0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: looper and pitch shifter Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:31:29 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C8ED89.328C3110" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:41:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C8ED89.328C3110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, for my electric guitar and electronics setup, i am looking for a very = simple looper with stereo inputs with around at least 20 second memory = and where i can record 4 seperate loops or so. it would be great if i = can do realtime pitchshifting to the loops also. can i find a looper = like this around 300 USD? will be in ny the 1st week of august, would = like to buy this unit. i plan to use it on a collaborative album with = jacob young for ECM. what is the best pitchshifting unit with stereo inputs around 300 USD? i = would need mostly octave shifts not complicated pitch shifting like on = eventide. would like to use it to pitchshift down 1 octave some of my fx = outputs in realtime. =20 thanks and best. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 10:14:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CF253BE8A; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <009501c8ed6e$4a435010$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: Drumming fitness Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:14:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:14:51 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:18 AM Subject: Re: Drumming fitness > Byron wrote: > "This is interesting because i came to looping through injury. I > percieved it as a way that i could deligate the repetition of movement > to the looper and take off some of the strain i was experiencing from > traditional percussion/drum playing." > > Dear Bryan, > > There is an excellent thread on repetitive stress injuries, carpal tunnel > syndrome , et. al. > on the FRAMEDRUMMERS@yahoogroups.com For some reason I find myself thinking of a sketch on the old Kids in the Hall show, with Scott Thompson as a stoner-type fella who keeps telling women, "...and I got big arms cause I'm a drummer, right?" 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When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh ====================================================================== All times are EDT / GMT-4 / ITZ-5. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 11:10:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CAEA3BE94; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:10:00 -0300 From: Mike Kilburn Subject: Digitech Jamman drums samples To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight. com" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_71gaBSNfSi0rdUFdfLA6UQ)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAOj/h0gY3qyM/2dsb2JhbACCcq5m X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,245,1215399600"; d="scan'208,217";a="267288638" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:10:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_71gaBSNfSi0rdUFdfLA6UQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hi all I’m trying tro decide whether to buy the digitech jamman but I’m leary of what may be a limited drum track compared to the Boss RC devices. I realize you can load into memory drums tracks from other devices. I’m just wondering what the onboard drums are like in the jamman. Mike --Boundary_(ID_71gaBSNfSi0rdUFdfLA6UQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Hi all

 

I’m trying tro decide whether to buy the digitech jamman but I’m leary of what may be a limited drum track compared to the Boss RC devices. I realize you can  load into memory drums tracks from other devices. I’m just wondering what the onboard drums are like in the jamman.

 

Mike

--Boundary_(ID_71gaBSNfSi0rdUFdfLA6UQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 13:09:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A9E13BE8E; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=oQoZbKoNHWiJEntrVqj9a5HF/8F9hPX2RvG+0XOgQ4Q=; b=t2h4GRpvbLEN8jkLGvJn7oWSeHwRlP1/NP38e2wtce8jVLWY2qH4boMKPeqLLud8eX 0S8+XgCV5XSM6YsImJ84GWDtp/CyUnx/FnMFqSle1EFfOkAxLd6W50IBGo9aoCIgordw 3j5fzAnJuZnsHmjEmaUhjt6XVBEGBSOg4l17c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=PdUqcChNoQfnyR9KmpJFYikvBdevLrO1Eww8DEwlZTe3KgHMElPYYhjUkqxLaLg6hk tVCDVCVlByJCa/pufbGShxOM6Ts4QZPAnxEjedFXjsGa4WB1X4cxctXRJcKSgWX3FNA3 2xUenHOBOU5I91wQ8aTFWgzumsP99I+u2kmQk= Message-ID: <33efc400807240609s52255c03idf98b0b5c44555fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:09:52 +0100 From: "skeksi ror" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Free EDP - anyone want it? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12969_7895880.1216904992403" References: <1F089332-2EA8-4403-891E-43346019D08E@yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6c1tCB.A.9HB.i8HiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:09:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12969_7895880.1216904992403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i would love it i am in ireland though.i would obviously pay for postage and all thax ror On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Adam Hart wrote: > Wyoming, USA > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Chris Gaber wrote: > >> Where are you located? >> >> On Jul 23, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Adam Hart wrote: >> >> I have an old Gibson EDP. The catch is that it doesn't work. Aliens and >>> demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and transmit cryptic >>> messages to the display. If you want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - >>> you choose the shipping method. >>> >>> Adam >>> >> >> > ------=_Part_12969_7895880.1216904992403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
i would love it
i am in ireland though.i would obviously pay for postage and all
thax
ror

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Adam Hart <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
Wyoming, USA


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Chris Gaber <fourstrng@yahoo.com> wrote:
Where are you located?

On Jul 23, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Adam Hart wrote:

I have an old Gibson EDP.  The catch is that it doesn't work.  Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and transmit cryptic messages to the display.  If you want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping method.

Adam



------=_Part_12969_7895880.1216904992403-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 13:43:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D912E3BE92; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:43:23 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=r2QKvgBJkQjNFonCzdbZ6ALOOeVhDIC8GsfWemU8/GjSDRVT6mrH2KouwphQMsAcwG6ixgj2vorU6TrUAdSWquJBmG69PBXPdK5MrxxVIyAiY9lYyH4qkyPSxygABgtshHYpTGv5G2jh0ICtzP3YRwiVtGhHrtyBlXP0OjUx7XY=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:36:42 -0700 (PDT) From: stevenguerrero Reply-To: mesquamacus@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Free EDP - anyone want it? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <33efc400807240609s52255c03idf98b0b5c44555fa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <357406.8047.qm@web34502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Any chance of a fight to the death? =A0 www.myspace.com/mesqua www.reverbnation.com/stevenguerrero --- On Thu, 7/24/08, skeksi ror wrote: > From: skeksi ror > Subject: Re: Free EDP - anyone want it? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 9:09 AM > i would love it > i am in ireland though.i would obviously pay for postage > and all > thax > ror >=20 > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Adam Hart > > wrote: >=20 > > Wyoming, USA > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Chris Gaber > wrote: > > > >> Where are you located? > >> > >> On Jul 23, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Adam Hart wrote: > >> > >> I have an old Gibson EDP. The catch is that it > doesn't work. Aliens and > >>> demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit > board and transmit cryptic > >>> messages to the display. If you want it > I'll send it, just pay shipping - > >>> you choose the shipping method. > >>> > >>> Adam > >>> > >> > >> > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 14:12:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86DE73BE9E; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9XrX/MgWhTlY2TQC6D+3marC62ygG7OYlY0mr2LCAZE=; b=luX4Hm+C056/m3Ti9Q6k3DiENo60oOYo/N/8xDuLUZ+cYYUJSyGLOn/6AD3apdX1On SQ0zj76WotP3Q0XZkw3BVWok1uOgsrljCW6auqLTyKaHUWquki40OdaM9v/EfDX/R41F R/oNqRm2IE7s272WcNs+mXD4i1B7GEhSsOifs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=NEgb09oFZWkCAzVfPmD9nkspPGIY/lS1neDyiHeRRntWdTkDQGrbgTTGrL2He80cmR za2xgJ8ec//LljwVY5jV/NFoB4/j89xdUEbdQHNROQuIaVoM9+5B4uLdLguBOgmp3Tdm +PYIV5qC66mdZP8zLzxJUFCK7jetvCQPT6ZLg= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:11:45 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_155639_10658322.1216908705621" References: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:12:08 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_155639_10658322.1216908705621 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Mech wrote: > > > Which leads to the question, "do you actually loop with the instrument > you > > are most proficient on? Why or why not?" > > > Yes and no, I'm proficient (some might say) on guitar and while I loop with it, I don't loop 'traditional' guitar playing. i.e. loop a chord sequence, solo over, etc. I make noise using the guitar as a sound source or to trigger a synth, loop it through delays and weird fx and make weirder noise. I also like to loop (keyboard) synths which I'm not even close to being profecient at. Again, they are just noisemakers for me. :) I guess I look loopers and delays as an instrument in itself, not so much a way to be able to layer stuff. Does that make sense? Though I do occasionally do that. I prefer to make noise. :) > > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony ------=_Part_155639_10658322.1216908705621 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

> Which leads to the question, "do you actually loop with the instrument you
> are most proficient on?  Why or why not?"
>
Yes and no,  I'm proficient (some might say) on guitar and while I loop with it, I don't loop 'traditional' guitar playing.  i.e. loop a chord sequence, solo over, etc.  I make noise using the guitar as a sound source or to trigger a synth, loop it through delays and weird fx and make weirder noise. I also like to loop (keyboard) synths which I'm not even close to being profecient at.  Again, they are just noisemakers for me. :)  I guess I look loopers and delays as an instrument in itself, not so much a way to be able to layer stuff.  Does that make sense?  Though I do occasionally do that.  I prefer to make noise. :)
 



--
-==-=-=-
Tony
------=_Part_155639_10658322.1216908705621-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 14:32:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85BAB3BE8A; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:14 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=oAGgjzg7dysWiV5T4vLb4cc/DmIgCX2nFXz106KMg7Kfni4aqjHBk8jtYM7VBRZYV9yTjWF7hNUeHLePEw2AKu5KKeGF+DP9P+I41j0X2DCeFmck5nl0tyzmStvoyO2Br0Fty38n9Gk+aVWVspxVPj92MuEtGvLszPOV/XGQPwA=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Earley Subject: Re: Free EDP - anyone want it? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2018361942-1216909533=:29701" Message-ID: <496554.29701.qm@web53804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-2018361942-1216909533=:29701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you are collecting names for a drawing... Richard Earley ----- Original Message ---- From: Adam Hart To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:38:36 PM Subject: Free EDP - anyone want it? I have an old Gibson EDP. The catch is that it doesn't work. Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and transmit cryptic messages to the display. If you want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping method. Adam --0-2018361942-1216909533=:29701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
If you are collecting names for a drawing...

Richard Earley

----- Original Message ----
From: Adam Hart <will.it.go.round@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:38:36 PM
Subject: Free EDP - anyone want it?

I have an old Gibson EDP.  The catch is that it doesn't work.  Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and transmit cryptic messages to the display.  If you want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping method.

Adam

--0-2018361942-1216909533=:29701-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 14:35:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 480053BE8A; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=06xpQoaqVfNkHyG8o2kA:9 a=D__fNrbmOM33R6gItmcA:9 a=_2aCTTup2kH9H8XaOLCoHCfef4wA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=oH_WKSxD8ioA:10 a=wAVnxPlqORWliXCdapEA:9 a=p3sjo3ZSg6lQvJ-9QkwA:7 a=mItjspTUasH0nIhk78fpSodof30A:4 a=Sz-0p1zU2dQA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <496554.29701.qm@web53804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <496554.29701.qm@web53804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-232220600 Message-Id: <1D301AE9-6116-4CD5-A93A-EC94E872B940@yahoo.com> From: Chris Gaber Subject: Re: Free EDP - anyone want it? Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:35:05 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <4zso0C.A.JXD.fMJiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:35:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-232220600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed My name too please. :) Chris Gaber On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Richard Earley wrote: > If you are collecting names for a drawing... > > Richard Earley > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Adam Hart > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:38:36 PM > Subject: Free EDP - anyone want it? > > I have an old Gibson EDP. The catch is that it doesn't work. > Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and > transmit cryptic messages to the display. If you want it I'll send > it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping method. > > Adam > --Apple-Mail-1-232220600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 My name too please.=A0 = :)

Chris = Gaber
On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Richard Earley = wrote:

If you are collecting names for a = drawing...

Richard Earley

----- Original Message = ----
From: Adam Hart <will.it.go.round@gmail.com&= gt;
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 = 7:38:36 PM
Subject: Free EDP - anyone want it?

I have an old Gibson EDP.=A0 The catch is = that it doesn't work.=A0 Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the = circuit board and transmit cryptic messages to the display.=A0 If you = want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping = method.

Adam
To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC--Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:21:37 +0000 (UTC) I think I would use my LP1 in stead of the sequencer of the HPD-15. Than = I'm pretty sure that the percusion track is synced with other tracks. Q: I suppose you can program a midi note number per pad division? In that= case I could also use it as a controller to trigger sounds in a synth. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 15:38:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99E903BEA9; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=RT2sDBnS3inploT33Rj/F+zYV4cUtlFbCvr5QANRUOX0VcRM0YXMdKhLO8vR1l5561B6b7q3+bUPY/fNf5wN6/y8ekhActlJgnDGWIJ9XuL2EjODxe2e0+x7Wc2hCwsRcScco9kknMZFjx36F+ELwx759VfKL1ENH8xOYu4ZaDM=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:38:21 -0700 (PDT) From: andy garber Subject: Re: Free EDP - anyone want it? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-943185135-1216913901=:95927" Message-ID: <768483.95927.qm@web51706.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:38:22 +0000 (UTC) --0-943185135-1216913901=:95927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm with Richard - If there's a Hat you can throw my name in it !! Andy Garber ----- Original Message ---- From: Adam Hart To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:38:36 PM Subject: Free EDP - anyone want it? I have an old Gibson EDP. The catch is that it doesn't work. Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and transmit cryptic messages to the display. If you want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping method. Adam --0-943185135-1216913901=:95927 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I'm with Richard - If there's a Hat you can throw my name in it !!

Andy Garber


----- Original Message ----
From: Adam Hart <will.it.go.round@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:38:36 PM
Subject: Free EDP - anyone want it?

I have an old Gibson EDP.  The catch is that it doesn't work.  Aliens and demon spirits have infiltrated the circuit board and transmit cryptic messages to the display.  If you want it I'll send it, just pay shipping - you choose the shipping method.

Adam


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If you in NYC this weekend or Boston next weekend please consider the following Chinapainting show dates...
 
Saturday, July 26th, 9:30pm, The Stain, 766 Grand, Brooklyn (joining us on the latter set will be Will Romano - drums/percussion) - No cover, suggested donation $4
Sunday, July 27th, 8pm, ABC No Rio, 156 Rivington, NYC - $5 cover
Monday, July 28th, 8pm, MudShop/Naked MUD Music series curated by Dana McCoy, 307 E. 9th, NYC - $5 food/drink min
Saturday, August 2nd, 7pm, http://artsomerville.org/nave/nave_info.html (Nave Gallery at Clarendon Hill Presbyterian), 155 PowderHouse Blvd., Somerville, MA - $7.  Featuring Chinapainting, Dennis Moser, Tim Nelson and Rob Byrd.
 
On this our 3rd series of Chinapainting live shows Daryl and I are particularly excited to be promoting the release of our 3rd CD Night Blooming Cereus which was recorded last summer in Woodstock NY on our first official tour and meeting.  The CD is at the dupe house but we anticipate it's arrival during this round of shows.  It will be available in iTunes and other e-stores in coming weeks.  It's 8 wonderful tracks but I realize we're biased, regardless it was as said a pinnacle point in that trip which was our first in person meeting and playing together after 8 months of working together electronically.
 
Hope to see you at one of our shows...
 
Best
 
Jim


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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_10762_4897758.1216919364406-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 17:24:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D5253BE8A; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=bN+jeptmz8A+Fuc8LBFtSWmIeveCamZucuHk73GpFIs=; b=tezTDWJgGvbFU7pcn8qoVZgy+Vrsq+BOsRwbBH4lpiSGziIMQJ0TfVrTBb8/JmKD+0 HL0bU0KtAyM41bZbTGtd7TM+HFual6Ik25jq2efYYrFEY71dhhL7WSLP2zVzm4dpKTRJ WKkN6grRK3DnPJkMJj25fdMw2fiCby61bo96Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=aNsOi1qxvhn6NnnKGXCLZ+ZV/rZ35lHcbQWbahZ30qMlZ2lGN7HLImDp/etJK+qh7N v4f30F3hBaVPbcAzhYqHuPDBDdpLJ3BMp4AN8g57irrUrixmPsZp/Wo5NBE6+j8cdgdC wnr/1/muXVy9gQuHZETR3yQ90cE8VKBjK5pgA= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:23:59 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807240149l1f007bd5h896e6043bd95eea@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_110917_7105173.1216920239857" References: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> <8c82d1660807232021m10f28a86sbd8d6854c693d6a1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0807240149l1f007bd5h896e6043bd95eea@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:24:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_110917_7105173.1216920239857 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Taking up a new instrument to avoid the cliches of your playing on a current instrument just results in cliches on a new instrument, usually played slower than previously. It takes a while to recognize them, but cliched playing is the fault of the musician, not the instrument. On 7/24/08, Per Boysen wrote: > > > I don't think piano players may suffer this problem as much as guitar > players. As you're saying we (guitarists) are building up tiny > muscular reflexes in order to access expression through the > instrument, but these "body mutations" also makes it harder to play > differently - if you should want to. Norwegian guitarist Eivind Aarset > told me he took another road to pass this typical barrier by setting > out to deliberately kill his darlings, as opposed to learning a new > instrument. He made up his mind to never play one single note that > "lives in his fingers". ------=_Part_110917_7105173.1216920239857 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Taking up a new instrument to avoid the cliches of your playing on a current instrument just results in cliches on a new instrument, usually played slower than previously.  It takes a while to recognize them, but cliched playing is the fault of the musician, not the instrument.

On 7/24/08, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't think piano players may suffer this problem as much as guitar
players. As you're saying we (guitarists) are building up tiny
muscular reflexes in order to access expression through the
instrument, but these "body mutations" also makes it harder to play
differently - if you should want to. Norwegian guitarist Eivind Aarset
told me he took another road to pass this typical barrier by setting
out to deliberately kill his darlings, as opposed to learning a new
instrument. He made up his mind to never play one single note that
"lives in his fingers".

------=_Part_110917_7105173.1216920239857-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 17:35:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B69DC3BE91; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=DPA5KXqb5aQDTdWiHenj/bqQEiMSGUJpJa7tJvl/xxg=; b=RC+j65SESAX1RzTh0RW3baJWTGmjeuhBXzZzqkDuASJJ10hw4dE/P9bPN4UGqSIMOI a7hPlAJEDGjHL07g+IZxhEnflo9z7m5MMKZ/LH8qXrn/K2J1HJP5wdBOwpDA6yUutZt9 Ri5bjcuTGtBliSSVTTCHknZ+gERnSbAdNq2z0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=WcWQFqBlCTQVu0p3pED5vaGeYTpH6r67VhlpBNjuGeuqpmXb89GnBd6ky6l0gFI6I7 nd2L/0Djh/izLrgLZxvZVrDIothdVG44FXzaJ2V3dQZvE/houO6tjjthFWLY5XkHKob6 GAFU34V3zkPEBApgeFudzTZxdlbbkhOqkBXGY= Message-ID: <499c6bd70807241035u5bf64f9q746bf9bfb289bd87@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:35:35 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_114121_23317692.1216920935226" References: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> <8c82d1660807232021m10f28a86sbd8d6854c693d6a1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0807240149l1f007bd5h896e6043bd95eea@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8T71Q.A.SjH.p1LiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:35:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_114121_23317692.1216920935226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is somewhat akin to Trey Gunn intentionally tuning his Warr guitar in such a way as to never have 'reflexive' blues notes 'available' to his muscle memory, as he finds the patterns thereof too 'cliched'. (Mind you, I'm paraphrasing. I think he said that he thinks 'Blues sucks' or something like that.) He made up his mind to never play one single note that >> "lives in his fingers". > > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_114121_23317692.1216920935226 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
This is somewhat akin to Trey Gunn intentionally tuning his Warr guitar in such a way as to never have 'reflexive' blues notes 'available' to his muscle memory, as he finds the patterns thereof too 'cliched'. (Mind you, I'm paraphrasing. I think he said that he thinks 'Blues sucks' or something like that.)

He made up his mind to never play one single note that
"lives in his fingers".




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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_114121_23317692.1216920935226-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 18:11:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40B443BE84; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=TtWcna5lTPpDFuSeKZRW9d4iT+qYGsUtdTWglfXFXmiVI/kM/av/iDxLYf8jrMWvntP6NY6oVpQOf0dWeX+yhFW54WdEn0+3nT+IRYxkznUzxf7p7xSzojFijx5WvkjYJMMAZmnZrw9NnQdHJQxVxGwjFcGlNHPGlSSABTe6PEw=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: billbigrig@yahoo.com Subject: edp To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <970068.3494.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2nAllB.A.Wc.hXMiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Me too!!! Rig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 18:23:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8C5C3BE90; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1TQEFWREWrflpibqIuvpgMGPfStJKF7ZH1C4ukKZu50=; b=rfysqwXzzqafzS1d5PwKbOYi1WP0GUGNsGCzOGTTaOZ62XjTiflI8WTAIxGhPeDweT gJFESXZXqf/3ZKTPOfYMrEcI1DWbG0OoOR56VlPzOfOru/lEGcfV40KG/aX/KhdOITyx MbHv28RirUGNWprvHFdRMADvxMRCLAMFUlALM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Tsch4KSqV/WYwr7FKDszFmn/JzISGfI3xQZhB9YmOxPwLfkZrtW07CX15faj2zIAwI 44k6YHv+zucZ8d4BwBvHDJO96zKEknpKy2RMkCOLht0AMgNiOW//rJqYq9rOxR2yjczu NJl2zs16lmv+buUTYQuWb9Fwq+NBGOfsmtuzU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:23:52 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looper and pitch shifter In-Reply-To: <00a801c8ed70$0d682bf0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_23678_3378261.1216923832999" References: <00a801c8ed70$0d682bf0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:23:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_23678_3378261.1216923832999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline EH 2880 aproximate this. 2008/7/24 Erdem Helvacioglu : > hi, > > for my electric guitar and electronics setup, i am looking for a very > simple looper with stereo inputs with around at least 20 second memory and > where i can record 4 seperate loops or so. it would be great if i can do > realtime pitchshifting to the loops also. can i find a looper like this > around 300 USD? will be in ny the 1st week of august, would like to buy this > unit. i plan to use it on a collaborative album with jacob young for ECM. > > what is the best pitchshifting unit with stereo inputs around 300 USD? i > would need mostly octave shifts not complicated pitch shifting like on > eventide. would like to use it to pitchshift down 1 octave some of my fx > outputs in realtime. > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_23678_3378261.1216923832999 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
EH 2880 aproximate this. 

2008/7/24 Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net>:
hi,
 
for my electric guitar and electronics setup, i am looking for a very simple looper with stereo inputs with around at least 20 second memory and where i can record  4 seperate loops or so. it would be great if i can do realtime pitchshifting to the loops also. can i find a looper like this around 300 USD? will be in ny the 1st week of august, would like to buy this unit. i plan to use it on a collaborative album with jacob young for ECM.
 
what is the best pitchshifting unit with stereo inputs around 300 USD? i would need mostly octave shifts not complicated pitch shifting like on eventide. would like to use it to pitchshift down 1 octave some of my fx outputs in realtime.  
 
thanks and best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_23678_3378261.1216923832999-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 18:25:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18FBB3BE92; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=UKmSbhEm6wD0Ajb41lQaioO8r2yZLczBDK/goc4XTyA=; b=k/PvCq0Su7PCQUq0Vi+Uh4JwhArY9Z6rIEinJZbnhHB8I+sby5gzQ4HVYeCa86Dcfx 46dAJSFvfc2Qqwc77f8RIzb13aFla74NihbowNtytZXh4wUOeffVjjffloUI7e1oxBYc 8s4cXfvl14OLMqU1+JzFD1EOT9VEdC0ytELhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=S+LprTgedVm6xDXEVCmhz9sXR425FRfPI1ln8bVmBtwobYOjIBjMIoXOSnsc9QVQue BgnfFpEl9WMEbic54LR4ZSAatCCoxtRvBnyFbwSmryFrIydje+Lq8jQTjp+0UCaCiebT dqd95c12gtguuFNbS9fvifD4zbnH8WeUg4NxU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:25:06 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looper and pitch shifter In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_23699_1326759.1216923907018" References: <00a801c8ed70$0d682bf0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: <8EM3fD.A.h5.DkMiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:25:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_23699_1326759.1216923907018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline go software with mobius. cheaper & matches your requirements 100%. 2008/7/24 Raul Bonell : > EH 2880 aproximate this. > > 2008/7/24 Erdem Helvacioglu : > > hi, >> >> for my electric guitar and electronics setup, i am looking for a very >> simple looper with stereo inputs with around at least 20 second memory and >> where i can record 4 seperate loops or so. it would be great if i can do >> realtime pitchshifting to the loops also. can i find a looper like this >> around 300 USD? will be in ny the 1st week of august, would like to buy this >> unit. i plan to use it on a collaborative album with jacob young for ECM. >> >> what is the best pitchshifting unit with stereo inputs around 300 USD? i >> would need mostly octave shifts not complicated pitch shifting like on >> eventide. would like to use it to pitchshift down 1 octave some of my fx >> outputs in realtime. >> >> thanks and best. >> >> Erdem Helvacioglu >> www.erdemhelvacioglu.com >> www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: >> chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine >> www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm >> >> www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 >> > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_23699_1326759.1216923907018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
go software with mobius.
cheaper & matches your requirements 100%.


2008/7/24 Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>:
EH 2880 aproximate this. 

2008/7/24 Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net>:

hi,
 
for my electric guitar and electronics setup, i am looking for a very simple looper with stereo inputs with around at least 20 second memory and where i can record  4 seperate loops or so. it would be great if i can do realtime pitchshifting to the loops also. can i find a looper like this around 300 USD? will be in ny the 1st week of august, would like to buy this unit. i plan to use it on a collaborative album with jacob young for ECM.
 
what is the best pitchshifting unit with stereo inputs around 300 USD? i would need mostly octave shifts not complicated pitch shifting like on eventide. would like to use it to pitchshift down 1 octave some of my fx outputs in realtime.  
 
thanks and best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_23699_1326759.1216923907018-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 18:32:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82ED23BE81; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=R2PTpJLQoPNHge9NsNICEo77B/dgvpmmEhqY76NCPZY=; b=JosggZBfvweOKBrQM7e1dJGaQvt20l2rj7dhlzaCnfV7tw6L/3BFMzLSJH88DXcS8J mPYrRyYs97JDdTyefY3bhp2s1wbbiw1EIUTLjIul1m6JYe20Hps7DVJcDJjHC1t6TfVc CR4Ie0eD+xaxe0yClBikA2BxGTG4rvL3MUwI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=V2bzrQWZFaaUCWXvnh/u0O0pt8Yvj0xkplmMzF2HDWIM5Y8APF5jCBfhzfr2EhURPb tZgznP0WP+F3+VyaQpKted9z1/hj/b3oW/Gz5QsHkyoLpSQTuuYZ7mpM1wauh/e+wCEs CB9vg7b/2+rN5tC1r1KIV8w2fMraEnLJ6nK7A= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807241132v3a85d669r6c40a796cc431d20@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:32:33 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> <8c82d1660807232021m10f28a86sbd8d6854c693d6a1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0807240149l1f007bd5h896e6043bd95eea@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5BdkCC.A.zRB.GrMiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:32:38 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > Taking up a new instrument to avoid the cliches of your playing on a current > instrument just results in cliches on a new instrument, usually played > slower than previously. If that happens, the cliches do live in your head and not in your muscles - as I was talking of. > It takes a while to recognize them, but cliched > playing is the fault of the musician, not the instrument. Sure, no doubt! ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 18:35:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C49A3BE88; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Eg01OPdOBy/bF1/gpsIvYHhLTwjAXjoaxVVejSMYh2o=; b=G5C9T8cYzugxef2U/Zy02ti1Kf7hThONpoHfXPB009nBBOTT4M+zJq6Ix1CgSyYATK 06gjMLhd0myMDcrSSyiDzl8k5B3jz7Q5n8iFNsL1Af5hvV+Tr4UYitFkecM9EQYS+chn 5iglOemgFIhV/5hqfmBKZuYMK/modyXvW+9Y4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=w/S1qH16ErqT453R5KHbOh7YIzxh0yk3+NhAwiGDCzt1afk+LImNVoU5CNunZB2UGU G454+2y0h5gPEBSsZkD2idt+Rfj9XxylwvHYTD2t6WuJ8GJtEXgdzJJWE/7LPjQl9wd7 yLbWAi13UutqTdpZvhQAUZs/g9QQR2juMwoys= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:35:47 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807241132v3a85d669r6c40a796cc431d20@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_23855_3624608.1216924547885" References: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> <8c82d1660807232021m10f28a86sbd8d6854c693d6a1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0807240149l1f007bd5h896e6043bd95eea@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0807241132v3a85d669r6c40a796cc431d20@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:35:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_23855_3624608.1216924547885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/7/24 Per Boysen : > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Travis Hartnett > wrote: > > Taking up a new instrument to avoid the cliches of your playing on a > current > > instrument just results in cliches on a new instrument, usually played > > slower than previously. > > If that happens, the cliches do live in your head and not in your > muscles - as I was talking of. > Not agree 100%. I also try to avoid those cliche liks but I found them not to be the same in the piano, sax or warr. Hey! I can't bend the bluesy tones with the piano! raul. > > > It takes a while to recognize them, but cliched > > playing is the fault of the musician, not the instrument. > > Sure, no doubt! ;-) > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_23855_3624608.1216924547885 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/7/24 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Travis Hartnett
<travishartnett@gmail.com> wrote:
> Taking up a new instrument to avoid the cliches of your playing on a current
> instrument just results in cliches on a new instrument, usually played
> slower than previously.

If that happens, the cliches do live in your head and not in your
muscles - as I was talking of.

Not agree 100%. I also try to avoid those cliche liks but I found them not to be the same in the piano, sax or warr.
Hey! I can't bend the bluesy tones with the piano!

raul.
 

> It takes a while to recognize them, but cliched
> playing is the fault of the musician, not the instrument.

Sure, no doubt!  ;-)

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_23855_3624608.1216924547885-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 19:03:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 454E53BE80; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KFo6JC5+MkrS8eijvqfJzjELdEtUI5BlxQlmGwyFaWE=; b=NGs/LIp07o15++kT/KtSUeldfnv77YNXE8Rbw4wCcaGQlaoptGFQAC2pBOjXDt0otX 4Z+3uy3AwxfzI4dOcFHCYpsovtP4ENVGB3/DuimTK8UEL6CVCx2+766FUfA23xWYIOiD fZOElbW51Pt5lgPH44N7dmjemkItzbKlPps9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vTUjWtl4CA5BadXvB0eson67B+QfHFGfH7lqyEAISYIvd6UwF+gSJXFe9UDJTqMDoG 9PJXr9nplaZ8VmBWbgF6q21CpUIkqMuBlemYGj6hgUBxGyXYnD0N0oYyu4jxdPUgjjMa PKflKikr+QIPLMkJyEuZk1dMEQAkWLImk/kio= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:03:46 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807241132v3a85d669r6c40a796cc431d20@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_111721_15067089.1216926226849" References: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> <8c82d1660807232021m10f28a86sbd8d6854c693d6a1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0807240149l1f007bd5h896e6043bd95eea@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0807241132v3a85d669r6c40a796cc431d20@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:03:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_111721_15067089.1216926226849 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm not saying you'll transfer the cliches from the old instrument to the new one, but for any instrument there are things that are easy to do, and those are the things that will become the new cliches. They'll just sound different from the ones you've been foisting off on your audience with the old instrument. When people change tunings on a guitar, for instance, they often carry over the same muscle movements and if those movements don't sound "bad" in the new tuning, they keep them in the their "new" playing, sometimes unintentionally. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Travis Hartnett > wrote: > > Taking up a new instrument to avoid the cliches of your playing on a > current > > instrument just results in cliches on a new instrument, usually played > > slower than previously. > > If that happens, the cliches do live in your head and not in your > muscles - as I was talking of. > > > ------=_Part_111721_15067089.1216926226849 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm not saying you'll transfer the cliches from the old instrument to the new one, but for any instrument there are things that are easy to do, and those are the things that will become the new cliches.  They'll just sound different from the ones you've been foisting off on your audience with the old instrument.  When people change tunings on a guitar, for instance, they often carry over the same muscle movements and if those movements don't sound "bad" in the new tuning, they keep them in the their "new" playing, sometimes unintentionally.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Travis Hartnett
<travishartnett@gmail.com> wrote:
> Taking up a new instrument to avoid the cliches of your playing on a current
> instrument just results in cliches on a new instrument, usually played
> slower than previously.

If that happens, the cliches do live in your head and not in your
muscles - as I was talking of.



------=_Part_111721_15067089.1216926226849-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 19:14:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BD853BE82; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004801c8edc1$93cce950$1db2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <66f9cc1e0807222329o1f991e8aqfc211932ae52dc3f@mail.gmail.com> <8c82d1660807232021m10f28a86sbd8d6854c693d6a1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0807240149l1f007bd5h896e6043bd95eea@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:15:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8EDD2.55F9ABC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18QO4boPxztrPMF/rBVqKR+u8M6vuxEJbcM7RC nRZOk6XVB+n0Vk3R4p3yq9N4jxqipuVP73YCt6qZGhSGAwHgIG 4Av8Pm392xZf2+Heoz6z7JEI0q3Sg4B Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:14:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8EDD2.55F9ABC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there is no need to change to another instrument. in attending and giving workshops i have witnessed and used some tricks = to avoid playing your "darlings": - let a pianist use his left hand for melody playing, only. - let a guitarist play on one string, only. - give a horn player just the range of a 5th to move in. - let any player who can see his/her finger movements look to the = ceiling (resp. close their eyes). - make an eigth-note-line-fetishist play anything but eigth-notes. - make a chord-arpeggio-aficionado play rhythmic variations on one note, = only (may adapt chromatically to chord movement). - make a drummer dance, tap-dance and clap. - and the best: make'em sing. tilmann ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Travis Hartnett=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most = proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) Taking up a new instrument to avoid the cliches of your playing on a = current instrument just results in cliches on a new instrument, usually = played slower than previously. It takes a while to recognize them, but = cliched playing is the fault of the musician, not the instrument. On 7/24/08, Per Boysen wrote: I don't think piano players may suffer this problem as much as = guitar players. As you're saying we (guitarists) are building up tiny muscular reflexes in order to access expression through the instrument, but these "body mutations" also makes it harder to play differently - if you should want to. Norwegian guitarist Eivind = Aarset told me he took another road to pass this typical barrier by setting out to deliberately kill his darlings, as opposed to learning a new instrument. He made up his mind to never play one single note that "lives in his fingers".=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8EDD2.55F9ABC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
there is no need to change to another=20 instrument.
 
in attending and giving workshops i = have witnessed=20 and used some tricks to avoid playing your "darlings":
 
- let a pianist use his left hand = for melody=20 playing, only.
- let a guitarist play on one string,=20 only.
- give a horn player just the range of = a 5th to=20 move in.
- let any player who can see his/her = finger=20 movements look to the ceiling (resp. close their = eyes).
- make an eigth-note-line-fetishist = play anything=20 but eigth-notes.
- make a chord-arpeggio-aficionado play = rhythmic=20 variations on one note, only (may adapt chromatically to chord=20 movement).
- make a drummer dance, tap-dance and=20 clap.
 
- and the best: make'em = sing.
 
tilmann
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Travis Hartnett
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 = 7:23=20 PM
Subject: Re: Do you actually = loop with=20 the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do = without=20 power?)

Taking up a new instrument to avoid the cliches of your = playing=20 on a current instrument just results in cliches on a new instrument, = usually=20 played slower than previously.  It takes a while to recognize = them, but=20 cliched playing is the fault of the musician, not the = instrument.

On 7/24/08, Per=20 Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:

I=20 don't think piano players may suffer this problem as much as=20 guitar
players. As you're saying we (guitarists) are building up=20 tiny
muscular reflexes in order to access expression through=20 the
instrument, but these "body mutations" also makes it harder = to=20 play
differently - if you should want to. Norwegian guitarist = Eivind=20 Aarset
told me he took another road to pass this typical barrier = by=20 setting
out to deliberately kill his darlings, as opposed to = learning a=20 new
instrument. He made up his mind to never play one single note = that
"lives in his fingers".=20

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--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_479_1216927847_0-- From frances_loan02@comcast.net Thu Jul 24 19:38:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1E23BE71 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tse91Z00G0FhH24A5veroG; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:38:51 +0000 Received: from smailcenter57.comcast.net ([204.127.205.157]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tven1Z00A3QGu1o8UvenfB; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:38:51 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sUl6Jw0C1jwA:10 a=QqQELSynHH8A:10 a=ISkCSzzC-WhDKEccaIwA:9 a=uGQnuM8-xOAbhqYopMAA:9 a=goJJ6J2KV2sEdpu-t60A:7 a=DKSZe-_0tbtm7eAFsjK1IIsIfb0A:4 a=8GI7vBxQHpwA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=gJcimI5xSWUA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=e8fU3oIBAh9oQ630bEUA:9 a=04do2RQevIimKB2VZ7YA:9 a=SkVFBCpLsdwMvSqFryEA:7 a=dYph2Te8EdTnuiJHi4Uu4x5XYGcA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Received: from [213.181.87.140] by smailcenter57.comcast.net; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:38:47 +0000 From: frances_loan02@comcast.net Subject: $$$$$$$$$LOAN OFFER APPLY NOW$$$$$$$$$ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:38:47 +0000 Message-Id: <072420081938.10584.4888DA440007B57B000029582205886014CDCF020E0104A19C0A0C020E9D00@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: ZnJhbmNlc19sb2FuMDJAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10584_1216928327_0" To: undisclosed-recipients:; --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10584_1216928327_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Goodday Sir/Madam, I am Mr.James Fances, A financier, I am willing to lend out loans with the interest rate of 3% and with in the amount of 2,000 to 10,000,000 as the loan offer,I offer loan to all categories of people,firms, companies, Commercial and Personal, private individuals and real estate investors, I give out loans at very cheap and moderate rates, I am certified, registered and legit lender. * Borrow anything up to 2,000 to 10,000,000 * Choose between 1 to 20 years to repay. * Choose between Monthly and Annual repayments Plan. * Flexible Loan Terms. Our loans are well insured for maximum security is our priority Are you losing sleep atnights worrying how to get a Legit Loan Lender? Are you biting your fingernailsto the quick? Instead of beating yourself up, call the R&B Loan Solution, Loan specialists who help stop Bad Credit History, to discover a win-win solution which is Our Mission...So contact us for a loan via email franceslarmstrong@hotmail.com If you are Interested, Places fill out the Loan Application Form below. ( LOAN APPLICATION ) First name:...... Last name:....... Prefix (Mr., Mrs., Ms., Dr., etc.):... Purpose of loan:..... Date of birth (yyyy-mm-dd):..... Next Of Kin:... Country:..... City:...... State/Province:..... Home address:..... Phone:..... Fax:..... Amount Needed As The Loan:..... Duration:.... Immediately you fill out the Loan Application form, you are to send it immediately to this office so that your loan papers can be procesed without any further delay. I hope to hear from you soon Best Regards.. Robert Thomas All Email Will Be Forward To This Email: franceslarmstrong@hotmail.com D&F Loan Solution --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10584_1216928327_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 


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--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_10584_1216928327_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 21:13:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65CD03BE80; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:13:35 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=C5LUzcNUCCwIGwKVr61L2244ggjxE4uftIE3WI4OflDII6RwdP1sPEnpShU8WTMo9mSjZK0f+NXoIif5O6C/Odk5p71EK5W59aOJRdzzi3BiDb1zAdaIwiCOFN2/3gdk6wPj0YpOGLawf0f2KwPRCq1aHxNn9ju1zChxcGxcyds=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:06:55 -0700 (PDT) From: andy garber Subject: RE:Handsonic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-209059645-1216933615=:74146" Message-ID: <864144.74146.qm@web51711.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:13:35 +0000 (UTC) --0-209059645-1216933615=:74146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sjaak- I have not done this but, the manual does state that you can use it as a controller for an external synth. AndyG --0-209059645-1216933615=:74146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Sjaak-

I have not done this but, the manual does state that you can use it as a controller
for an external synth.


AndyG


--0-209059645-1216933615=:74146-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 23:15:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83D013BE80; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:15:55 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #589 for July 17, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48890D2B.9050802@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:15:58 +0000 (UTC) This is last week's playlist. Be sure to tune in for tonight's show. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080717.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #589 July 17, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk two from All Is Now on Timeroom Editions. Steve Roach: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#jul PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Twilight Archive Something Unquiet Ritual Fiction (Electrophonogram) Samarkande Synapse no 3 3 Synapses Gert Emmens Part 6 The Nearest Faraway Place Volume 1 (Groove) Paul Vnuk, Jr. and Distance To Zero I Distance To Zero (Hypnos) Oophoi Steve Roach Part 1 All Is Now disk 2 (Timeroom) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Part 2 All Is Now disk 2 (Timeroom) Steve Roach Part 3 All Is Now disk 2 (Timeroom) Steve Roach Part 4 All Is Now disk 2 (Timeroom) Steve Roach Part 5 All Is Now disk 2 (Timeroom) Steve Roach Part 6 All Is Now disk 2 (Timeroom) Steve Roach Part 7 All Is Now disk 2 (Timeroom) Steve Roach Part 8 All Is Now disk 2 (Timeroom) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Solitaire: Ritual Ground with Elmar Schulte. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy.asx http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy2.ram To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 23:31:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 721283BE7C; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:31:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8EDBB.85FB3800" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70807241035u5bf64f9q746bf9bfb289bd87@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjttLGfeMYXozcpT7226ND1nnloZgALHKaA Message-Id: <20080724233150.277AC3BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8zfXqC.A.wbH.mDRiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:31:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8EDBB.85FB3800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or, perhaps =91he made up his fingers to never play one single note that = lives in his mind.=92 =20 Blues sucks for folks with limited extrapolation skills, much like = frames suck for landscape artists who lack a compositional eye and nets suck = for tennis players who can=92t control spin. =20 =20 Question: if one is to completely avoid clich=E9s, couldn=92t one = simply defeat the A440 tonal reference first, then the twelve tone scale secondly? = That would leave only clich=E9s in rhythm, perhaps the hardest to discard of = all, yes? Even amputations probably wouldn=92t solve this issue. =20 Still, clich=E9s are like oft-repeated words that serve as landmarks in = a conversation. One could simply launch a monolog composed of entirely original words and sounds. Any listeners might comment favorably on delivery, tone of voice and expression, but no one would have much sense = of what was being said. John Coltrane was a master at taking a = recognizable phrase, surrounding it with instantly composed motifs, which when = combined with the clich=E9 phrase granted infrastructure to the solo. Then = he=92d surround these little islands with sheets of open water, sounds that = bore no relationship to the first two elements beyond geographical existence in = the same solo. The result was a previously unmapped tour that took the = listener from a familiar starting point on a journey across uncharted passages to ports of call that were not familiar, yet were still enticing of = attention. =20 I guess I am pre-supposing that listeners are still important to those fleeing clich=E9s=85 =20 dave=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 This is somewhat akin to Trey Gunn intentionally tuning his Warr guitar = in such a way as to never have 'reflexive' blues notes 'available' to his muscle memory, as he finds the patterns thereof too 'cliched'. (Mind = you, I'm paraphrasing. I think he said that he thinks 'Blues sucks' or = something like that.)=20 He made up his mind to never play one single note that "lives in his fingers".=20 =20 --=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8EDBB.85FB3800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Or, perhaps ‘he made up his = fingers to never play one single note that lives in his = mind.’

 

Blues sucks for folks with = limited extrapolation skills, much like frames suck for landscape artists who = lack a compositional eye and nets suck for tennis players who can’t control spin.=A0 =

 

Question:=A0 if one is to = completely avoid clich=E9s, couldn’t one simply defeat the A440 tonal reference first, then = the twelve tone scale secondly?=A0 That would leave only clich=E9s in = rhythm, perhaps the hardest to discard of all, yes?=A0 Even amputations probably = wouldn’t solve this issue.

 

Still, clich=E9s are like = oft-repeated words that serve as landmarks in a conversation.=A0 One could simply launch a = monolog composed of entirely original words and sounds.=A0 Any listeners might = comment favorably on delivery, tone of voice and expression, but no one would = have much sense of what was being said.=A0 John Coltrane was a master at taking a recognizable phrase, surrounding it with instantly composed motifs, = which when combined with the clich=E9 phrase granted infrastructure to the solo.=A0 = Then he’d surround these little islands with sheets of open water, sounds that = bore no relationship to the first two elements beyond geographical existence in = the same solo.=A0 The result was a previously unmapped tour that took the = listener from a familiar starting point on a journey across uncharted passages to = ports of call that were not familiar, yet were still enticing of = attention.

 

I guess I am pre-supposing that = listeners are still important to those fleeing = clich=E9s…

 

dave

 

=

 

=

 

 

 

This is = somewhat akin to Trey Gunn intentionally tuning his Warr guitar in such a way as to never = have 'reflexive' blues notes 'available' to his muscle memory, as he finds = the patterns thereof too 'cliched'. (Mind you, I'm paraphrasing. I think he = said that he thinks 'Blues sucks' or something like that.) =

He made up his mind to never play one single note that
"lives in his fingers".

 




--

------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8EDBB.85FB3800-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 24 23:50:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 990DF3BE86; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Digitech Jamman drums samples Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:50:39 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 69.183.230.222 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: pjbmhb@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CABBFF35DB94C6_18BC_6335_webmailbeta-m08.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37955-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CABBFF35D46DC1-18BC-312B@webmailbeta-m08.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:50:47 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CABBFF35DB94C6_18BC_6335_webmailbeta-m08.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" The onboard drum sounds and patterns are pretty weak. The fact that w/ an in= expensive memory upgrade you can have over 6 hours of delay time is what sol= d me. =3D-) PJ -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kilburn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight. com Sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 7:10 am Subject: Digitech Jamman drums samples Hi all=20 =C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m trying tro decide whether to buy the digitech jamman but I=E2= =80=99m leary of what may be a limited drum track compared to the Boss RC de= vices. I realize you can=C2=A0 load into memory drums tracks from other devi= ces. I=E2=80=99m just wondering what the onboard drums are like in the jamma= n.=20 =C2=A0 Mike=20 ----------MB_8CABBFF35DB94C6_18BC_6335_webmailbeta-m08.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" The onboard drum sounds and patterns are pretty weak. The fact that w/=20= an inexpensive memory upgrade you can have over 6 hours of delay time is wha= t sold me.

=3D-) PJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight. com <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com>
Sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 7:10 am
Subject: Digitech Jamman drums samples

Hi all <= /FONT>
 
I=E2=80=99m try= ing tro decide whether to buy the digitech jamman but I=E2=80=99m leary of w= hat may be a limited drum track compared to the Boss RC devices. I realize y= ou can  load into memory drums= tracks from other devices. I=E2=80=99m just wondering what the onboard drum= s are like in the jamman.
 
Mike
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----------MB_8CABBFF35DB94C6_18BC_6335_webmailbeta-m08.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 00:00:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DE0F3BE87; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----_SmarterMail_NextPart_7657385242584455 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:00:49 -0500 Subject: re: RE:Handsonic From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" Reply-To: aaronleese@flyloops.com To: CC: Message-ID: <76d87ac53fae421cb701a644bc29a62b@windows76178.clientnshosting.net> Resent-Message-ID: <7ZWAQB.A.gY.weRiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_7657385242584455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0AI've used it as a midi master different times .... any program that c= an sync decently will work well with it. There is no setup required if you= are using one of the handsonic "loops" ..... but if you want to set the te= mpo without actually playing one of the handsonic's loops you need to do a = little tweeking ... still not too bad though.=0D=0A=0D=0A------------------= ----------------------=0D=0AFrom: andy garber =0D= =0ASent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:13 PM=0D=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com=0D=0ASubject: RE:Handsonic =0D=0A=0D=0ASjaak-=0D=0A=0D=0AI have = not done this but, the manual does state that you can use it as a controlle= r =0D=0Afor an external synth.=0D=0A=0D=0AAndyG=0D=0A=0D=0A ------_SmarterMail_NextPart_7657385242584455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've used it as a midi master different times .... any program that can= sync decently will work well with it.  There is no setup required if = you are using one of the handsonic "loops" ..... but if you want to set the= tempo without actually playing one of the handsonic's loops you need to do= a little tweeking ... still not too bad though.



From: andy garber <andrewgarber@yahoo.com= >
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:13 PM
T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject= : RE:Handsonic

Sjaak-

I have not done this but, the manual doe= s state that you can use it as a controller
for an external synth.
<= br>
AndyG



------_SmarterMail_NextPart_7657385242584455-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 01:11:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF44C3BE8A; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <019a01c8edf3$5d5f4660$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:11:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Much has been bandied about in this thread about whether one uses the instrument of most proficiency or the least and it provoked some thoughts I wanted to share. One of the beauties of the live looping movement is that inventors' of much of the innovation, technologically are actively involved in performing in that movement. This means that there has been a lot of innovation in creating new techniques (or delightfully misusing mistakes in new techniques) because the intruments have been evolving quickly. There are musical techniques and sounds that one can use with an EDP, Max MSP, a Looperlative, Mobius using Bidule that truly have never been heard before. There are whole improvisational styles evolving (witness Per Boysen using Mobius and Bidule or Jeff Kaiser using MaxMSP) that are creating music that hasn't been heard. Because a lot of these new techniques are technology driven, it means that ordinary (and unordinary) sounds sources have much more potential to create new timbres and new musics to respond to. That's why I delight in taking on instruments that I'll never be competent on in their original intended styles and genres because they have the potential to create new timbres that haven't existed before in music. As an example, I performed a long piece for Baritone Horn at a recent Noise Festival, using a looperlative, a Boss intellishifter and multiple and serially hooked up multi-distortion pedals. I've played enough brass instruments to understand the paradigm for learning how to play this instrument, but I'm so far away from being able to play the simplest John Philips Sousa march in a band that it's not even funny. But it SOUNDS FANTASTIC. In a way, I used the loopers in my rig with more precision and skill than I did the Baritone but whatever I did, it created something new, I think. So, all wonderful kudos to the blistering, fantastic bass players, guitarists, cellists, tubists, etc. out there. I love your music and admire it (and I"m not such a lame trapset drummer, too...........lol) At the same time, I find that the marriage of advanced techonology and a primitivist approach to music making can also yield really valid and interesting music results. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 01:38:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57E0D3BE84; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01ce01c8edf7$1ad8a5d0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:38:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Travis said, "I'm not saying you'll transfer the cliches from the old instrument to the new one, but for any instrument there are things that are easy to do, and those are the things that will become the new cliches. They'll just sound different from the ones you've been foisting off on your audience with the old instrument. When people change tunings on a guitar, for instance, they often carry over the same muscle movements and if those movements don't sound "bad" in the new tuning, they keep them in the their "new" playing, sometimes unintentionally." I hear what you are saying, Travis, but there is also something to be said for taking on brand new things precisely because you have limited skills on them. What I mean is that frequently when given incredible restraints in our playing a very creative musician will figure out all kinds of new things to do based specifically on that limitation. As an example, for weight reasons, I recently embarked on a long tour with only my looper and my pitchshifter. I was forced to leave my distortion pedal and my multi-effects unit (with modulations, delays and reverbs) home. I had to live with a dry sound and it forced me into making a lot of musical choices that I might now necessarily make. I think, in the long run, that it really helped my musicianship to have to contend with this limitation (my own personal one as I had really grown to love my distortion and multi-effects pedal). Additionally, a while ago I did a duet gig with Henry Kaiser at the Luggage Store Experimental Series. Henry asked if was comfortable doing the gig without not only my loopers (my faithful companions of the last 13 years) but also without any amplfication, whatsoever. I'd never done this in such a setting (free improvisation) and I certainly had done something like this in over 13 years in any musical context. It was great, though, because I really had to recontextualize my playing to accomodate not only the loss of sophistication in sound design , but also, physically to be able to play everything that I play at a volume equal too, or less than, the acoustic guitar that Henry brought along. I had to get really creative and I had to step outside of the box of my own musical comfort zone. I wasn't always comfortable doing it, but it really changed my head around and I think some cool things resulted (you might have to ask Henry and the audience for their take on it, but it seemed to go over okay). ********* And lastly, one can never underestimate the power of inspiration in music, that can be created by shifting to a new instrument, purposefully. One could sit back and be cynical about Per Boysen leaving his instrument of main expertise, the electric guitar to start playing Alto Flute for, surely, for a couple of years at least, the sophistication of his playing on flute couldn't match the sophistication of his electric guitar playing, but I've played with Per a few times (and listened to him concertize) several times during this process and he has been on fire with creativity and just sheer love for what he's doing. It really translates into his performance and the music he makes and I, for one, am actually glad that he made that switch. *********** Of course, one of the true tricks of the master at anything is to continually recreate the 'Beginner's Mind' that the Buddhist Meditation masters refer to: that quality of excitement and inspiration when we are new to any experience (from being on a honeymoon to getting a cool new stompbox pedal or looper). An uninspired or uncreative musician can really get into ruts in their playing (and at my age, I've noticed dozens of contemporary musicians that I have known have completely quit playing because they couldn't get past that hump of overfamiliarity with what they are doing. A master, on the other hand, has the ability to continually reinvent themselves, I feel. It's why I can go see Bill Frissel everytime he plays here in Santa Cruz while on tour.................it's always a fresh experience. He can even play in what I consider to be cliched styles of playing and make them fresh because he's so good at being creative and so good at recontexualizing different genres with his playing. So, if sticking to one thing floats your boat and makes you inspired to play the best music you can...............more power to you. But, as a wise man once said: "the truth is one but the paths are many". And not to be too trite (lol, or cliched) 'the proofs in the pudding', no matter what path a musician takes. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 02:32:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B2A53BE7F; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=n1PneghUH2ASjDH/RdfGZcXmgcY1lGCohom7ymhpX5o=; b=CcEM69qNS1OyqejpOoaMjFZ4RfbI0LpEf81b7/LApTxb3Lkq87aMwkTdQTHhvEN5yi B45WRlaZOdDP3T7AgIpQXE12Qc/Q+qige6uhw22jENIpMmQJGOiCZmXJheyUf7hP/gUF Ou1S9O39PcQsqZN7aUsYmc9k93CcDaG8Kzju8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=l1uZfieIUVfVcPql3eqN1hyXdPIicg1+IsU6fE94+SI9xO6V+uZPtH1/hv0WXhXfSA WZArDEAJiuqzTFeaoG3F9kibndAxHA/W5Eangz17qdwPKNOODu0X2qN+NW2ciM+/3WM9 /oK2+tXNivMZ1wyM97LcZvoLxdWntE5YZy898= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:32:34 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? In-Reply-To: <01ce01c8edf7$1ad8a5d0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_113955_14506024.1216953154110" References: <01ce01c8edf7$1ad8a5d0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: <9AxizC.A.39F.DtTiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:32:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_113955_14506024.1216953154110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I don't...disagree with you. I remember Pete Townshend saying that after a while he felt he was in a rut writing on guitar, so he started writing on piano. He didn't know anything about piano and just worked things out himself. Suddenly a new burst of inspiration came! Very exciting. When he went to start recording his new direction in composition, the time came to put a few guitars into the arrangement, whereupon he began to realise that he'd recreated his five favorite tricks from the guitar...on the piano, which was a bit of a let down. But he perservered. One day he came up with some breathtakingly new and decidedly different! A breakthrough! Hooray! Some time later he realised that his new original piece of music was...something he'd poached from Keith Jarrett's "Sun Bear Concerts". C'est la vie! TH On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Travis said, > "I'm not saying you'll transfer the cliches from the old instrument to the > new one, but for any instrument there are things that are easy to do, and > those are the things that will become the new cliches. They'll just sound > different from the ones you've been foisting off on your audience with the > old instrument. When people change tunings on a guitar, for instance, they > often carry over the same muscle movements and if those movements don't > sound "bad" in the new tuning, they keep them in the their "new" playing, > sometimes unintentionally." > > I hear what you are saying, Travis, but there is also something to be said > for > taking on brand new things precisely because you have limited skills on > them. > > What I mean is that frequently when given incredible restraints in our > playing > a very creative musician will figure out all kinds of new things to do > based specifically > on that limitation. > > ------=_Part_113955_14506024.1216953154110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I don't...disagree with you.

I remember Pete Townshend saying that after a while he felt he was in a rut writing on guitar, so he started writing on piano.  He didn't know anything about piano and just worked things out himself.  Suddenly a new burst of inspiration came!  Very exciting.  When he went to start recording his new direction in composition, the time came to put a few guitars into the arrangement, whereupon he began to realise that he'd recreated his five favorite tricks from the guitar...on the piano, which was a bit of a let down. 

But he perservered. 

One day he came up with some breathtakingly new and decidedly different!  A breakthrough!  Hooray!  Some time later he realised that his new original piece of music was...something he'd poached from Keith Jarrett's "Sun Bear Concerts".  C'est la vie!

TH

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Travis said,
"I'm not saying you'll transfer the cliches from the old instrument to the new one, but for any instrument there are things that are easy to do, and those are the things that will become the new cliches.  They'll just sound different from the ones you've been foisting off on your audience with the old instrument.  When people change tunings on a guitar, for instance, they often carry over the same muscle movements and if those movements don't sound "bad" in the new tuning, they keep them in the their "new" playing, sometimes unintentionally."

I hear what you are saying, Travis, but there is also something to be said for
taking on brand new things precisely because you have limited skills on them.

What I mean is that frequently when given incredible restraints in our playing
a very creative musician will figure out all kinds of new things to do based specifically
on that limitation.


------=_Part_113955_14506024.1216953154110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 02:37:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB1013BE7C; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <87581537.1216953431390.JavaMail.root@ccprodapp14> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:37:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Travis Lund Reply-To: Travis Lund To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re[2]: What would loopers do without power? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14804_87579871.1216953431389" X-Mailer: CC Mailer IV 3.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:37:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14804_87579871.1216953431389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This whole proficiency discussion has been extremely fascinating to follow,= and it's been one of those things where I feel like each viewpoint express= ed is outlining at least a few valid considerations. =A0Realistically I fee= l like there's just no way to categorize better or worse or more artistic. = =A0It's a total question of your own comfort zone. =A0Until very recently, = I wouldn't have even thought of going on stage if I wasn't bringing a guita= r or some percussion with me, since those are the two things I consider mys= elf legitimately "proficient" with. (But like a whole lot of people on this= list, I do dabble with a multitude of other instruments). =A0Actually, it'= s due largely to reading and occasionally participating in this forum (and = checking out all of the unbelievable music y'all are making) that I've real= ly been inspired to let go of everything and just play around with stuff. = =A0Some of that has had good results, some . . . not so much. =A0My point i= n all this is that Everyone probably feels differently about how comfortabl= e they'd be on a foreign instrument. =A0To use tow "big name" examples: =A0= I bet Keller Williams wouldn't have any issue at all dragging a euphonium o= n stage just to see what kind of racket he could make, but I'd bet Kid Beyo= nd won't be hauling out a guitar on tour anytime soon. =A0Does that make Ki= d less adventurous or less artistic or less of a musician? =A0Not really. = =A0He just has his niche and he's so damn good at it that he probably doesn= 't feel terribly inclined to change it up. =A0As for the side discussion of= "cliches" that we have on a given instrument, I think those go beyond the = instrument, they're just licks we like, which is why we learned them in the= first place, and I suspect most of us, on a given instrument, try on first= impulse to recreate them. =A0(The very first thing I did when I purchased = a fiddle recently was start trying to play your basic John Lee Hooker blues= riff, as an example). =A0Yes, muscle memory plays a role, but I think your= musical personality (of which your licks are a part) is going to come thro= ugh on whatever instrument, or at least you'll try to force it to at first,= and from thence comes all the beautiful mistakes that make up the glorious= racket of free musical landscapes. =A0Anyway, I guess my tow cents is just= that if people really enjoy their "main instrument" and want to continue u= sing it, they should, but if you wanna do tightrope walks with something yo= u found in a thrift store yesterday that you have no idea how to tune, that= 's excellent as well; there's room for both. =A0Many apologies for the rant= . =A0Happy looping, -Travis --------------------------------------- Original E-mail=20 From: Rick Walker Date: 07/24/2008 09:38 PM=20 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? Travis said, "I'm not saying you'll transfer the cliches from the old instrument to the= =20 new one, but for any instrument there are things that are easy to do, and= =20 those are the things that will become the new cliches. =A0They'll just soun= d=20 different from the ones you've been foisting off on your audience with the= =20 old instrument. =A0When people change tunings on a guitar, for instance, th= ey=20 often carry over the same muscle movements and if those movements don't=20 sound "bad" in the new tuning, they keep them in the their "new" playing,= =20 sometimes unintentionally." I hear what you are saying, Travis, but there is also something to be said= =20 for taking on brand new things precisely because you have limited skills on=20 them. What I mean is that frequently when given incredible restraints in our=20 playing a very creative musician will figure out all kinds of new things to do base= d=20 specifically on that limitation. As an example, =A0for weight reasons, =A0I recently embarked on a long tour= with=20 only my looper and my pitchshifter. I was forced to leave my distortion pedal and my multi-effects unit (with= =20 modulations, delays and reverbs) home. I had to live with a dry sound and it forced me into making =A0a lot of=20 musical choices that I might now necessarily make. I think, in the long run, that it really helped my musicianship to have to= =20 contend with this limitation (my own personal one as I had really grown to love my distortion and multi-effects pedal). Additionally, =A0 a while ago I did a duet gig with Henry Kaiser at the=20 Luggage Store Experimental Series. Henry asked if was comfortable doing the gig without not only my loopers (m= y=20 faithful companions of the last 13 years) =A0but also without any amplfication, whatsoever. I'd never done this in such a setting (free improvisation) and I certainly= =20 had done something like this in over 13 years in any musical context. It was great, though, =A0because I really had to recontextualize my playing= to=20 accomodate not only the loss of sophistication in sound design , but also, physically to be able to= =20 play everything that I play at a volume equal too, or less than, =A0the acoustic guitar that Henry brou= ght=20 along. I had to get really creative and I had to step outside of the box of my own= =20 musical comfort zone. I wasn't always comfortable doing it, but it really changed my head around= =20 and I think some cool things resulted (you might have to ask Henry and the audience for their tak= e=20 on it, but it seemed to go over okay). ********* And lastly, =A0one can never underestimate the power of inspiration in musi= c,=20 that can be created by shifting to a new instrument, purposefully. One could sit back and be cynical about Per Boysen leaving his instrument o= f=20 main expertise, the electric guitar to start playing Alto Flute for, surely, =A0for a couple of years at least, the sophistication of his playin= g=20 on flute couldn't match the sophistication of his electric guitar playing, but I've played with Per a few times (and listened to him concertize)=20 several times during this process and he has been on fire with creativity and just sheer love for what he's doing. It really translates into his performance and the music he makes and I, for= =20 one, =A0am actually glad that he made that switch. *********** Of course, =A0 one of the true tricks of the master at anything is to=20 continually recreate the 'Beginner's Mind' =A0that the Buddhist Meditation= =20 masters refer to: =A0 =A0that quality of excitement and inspiration when we are new= to=20 any experience (from being on a honeymoon to getting a cool new stompbox pedal or looper). =A0 An uninspired or uncreative musician can rea= lly=20 get into ruts in their playing (and at my age, I've noticed dozens of contemporary musicians that I have known have completely quit playing=20 because they couldn't get past that hump of overfamiliarity with what they are doing. =A0 A master, on the other hand, =A0 has the ability to continually reinve= nt=20 themselves, I feel. It's why I can go see Bill Frissel everytime he plays here in Santa Cruz=20 while on tour.................it's always a fresh experience. He can even play in what I consider to be cliched styles of playing and mak= e=20 them fresh because he's so good at being creative and so good at recontexualizing different genres with his playing. So, =A0if sticking to one thing floats your boat and makes you inspired to= =20 play the best music you can...............more power to you. But, as a wise man once said: =A0"the truth is one but the paths are many". And not to be too trite (lol, or cliched) =A0 'the proofs in the pudding',= =20 no matter what path a musician takes.=20 ------=_Part_14804_87579871.1216953431389 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This whole proficiency discussion has been extremely fascinatin= g to follow, and it's been one of those things where I feel like each viewp= oint expressed is outlining at least a few valid considerations. =A0Realist= ically I feel like there's just no way to categorize better or worse or mor= e artistic. =A0It's a total question of your own comfort zone. =A0Until ver= y recently, I wouldn't have even thought of going on stage if I wasn't brin= ging a guitar or some percussion with me, since those are the two things I = consider myself legitimately "proficient" with. (But like a whole lot of pe= ople on this list, I do dabble with a multitude of other instruments). =A0A= ctually, it's due largely to reading and occasionally participating in this= forum (and checking out all of the unbelievable music y'all are making) th= at I've really been inspired to let go of everything and just play around w= ith stuff. =A0Some of that has had good results, some . . . not so much. = =A0My point in all this is that Everyone probably feels differently about h= ow comfortable they'd be on a foreign instrument. =A0To use tow "big name" = examples: =A0I bet Keller Williams wouldn't have any issue at all dragging = a euphonium on stage just to see what kind of racket he could make, but I'd= bet Kid Beyond won't be hauling out a guitar on tour anytime soon. =A0Does= that make Kid less adventurous or less artistic or less of a musician? =A0= Not really. =A0He just has his niche and he's so damn good at it that he pr= obably doesn't feel terribly inclined to change it up. =A0As for the side d= iscussion of "cliches" that we have on a given instrument, I think those go= beyond the instrument, they're just licks we like, which is why we learned= them in the first place, and I suspect most of us, on a given instrument, = try on first impulse to recreate them. =A0(The very first thing I did when = I purchased a fiddle recently was start trying to play your basic John Lee = Hooker blues riff, as an example). =A0Yes, muscle memory plays a role, but = I think your musical personality (of which your licks are a part) is going = to come through on whatever instrument, or at least you'll try to force it = to at first, and from thence comes all the beautiful mistakes that make up = the glorious racket of free musical landscapes. =A0Anyway, I guess my tow c= ents is just that if people really enjoy their "main instrument" and want t= o continue using it, they should, but if you wanna do tightrope walks with = something you found in a thrift store yesterday that you have no idea how t= o tune, that's excellent as well; there's room for both. =A0Many apologies = for the rant. =A0Happy looping,
-Travis
---------------= ------------------------
Original E-mail
From: Rick Walker <loopp= ool@cruzio.com>
Date: 07/24/2008 09:38 PM
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (p= osting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: Re: What w= ould loopers do without power?

Travis said,
=20 "I'm not saying you'll transfer the cliches from the old instrument to the =
=20 new one, but for any instrument there are things that are easy to do, and <= br>=20 those are the things that will become the new cliches. =A0They'll just soun= d
=20 different from the ones you've been foisting off on your audience with the =
=20 old instrument. =A0When people change tunings on a guitar, for instance, th= ey
=20 often carry over the same muscle movements and if those movements don't =20 sound "bad" in the new tuning, they keep them in the their "new" playing, <= br>=20 sometimes unintentionally."
=20
=20 I hear what you are saying, Travis, but there is also something to be said =
=20 for
=20 taking on brand new things precisely because you have limited skills on =20 them.
=20
=20 What I mean is that frequently when given incredible restraints in our
= =20 playing
=20 a very creative musician will figure out all kinds of new things to do base= d
=20 specifically
=20 on that limitation.
=20
=20 As an example, =A0for weight reasons, =A0I recently embarked on a long tour= with
=20 only my looper and my pitchshifter.
=20 I was forced to leave my distortion pedal and my multi-effects unit (with <= br>=20 modulations, delays and reverbs)
=20 home.
=20
=20 I had to live with a dry sound and it forced me into making =A0a lot of =20 musical choices that I might now necessarily make.
=20 I think, in the long run, that it really helped my musicianship to have to =
=20 contend with this limitation (my own personal one
=20 as I had really grown to love my distortion and multi-effects pedal).
= =20
=20 Additionally, =A0 a while ago I did a duet gig with Henry Kaiser at the =20 Luggage Store Experimental Series.
=20 Henry asked if was comfortable doing the gig without not only my loopers (m= y
=20 faithful companions of the last
=20 13 years) =A0but also without any amplfication, whatsoever.
=20
=20 I'd never done this in such a setting (free improvisation) and I certainly =
=20 had done something like this in over 13 years
=20 in any musical context.
=20
=20 It was great, though, =A0because I really had to recontextualize my playing= to
=20 accomodate not only the
=20 loss of sophistication in sound design , but also, physically to be able to=
=20 play everything that I play
=20 at a volume equal too, or less than, =A0the acoustic guitar that Henry brou= ght
=20 along.
=20
=20 I had to get really creative and I had to step outside of the box of my own=
=20 musical comfort zone.
=20
=20 I wasn't always comfortable doing it, but it really changed my head around =
=20 and I think some cool
=20 things resulted (you might have to ask Henry and the audience for their tak= e
=20 on it, but it seemed to go over okay).
=20
=20 *********
=20 And lastly, =A0one can never underestimate the power of inspiration in musi= c,
=20 that can be created by shifting to a new instrument,
=20 purposefully.
=20
=20 One could sit back and be cynical about Per Boysen leaving his instrument o= f
=20 main expertise, the electric guitar to start playing Alto Flute for,
=20 surely, =A0for a couple of years at least, the sophistication of his playin= g
=20 on flute couldn't match the sophistication of his electric guitar playing,<= br>=20 but I've played with Per a few times (and listened to him concertize)
= =20 several times during this process and he has been on fire
=20 with creativity and just sheer love for what he's doing.
=20
=20 It really translates into his performance and the music he makes and I, for=
=20 one, =A0am actually glad that he made that switch.
=20
=20 ***********
=20 Of course, =A0 one of the true tricks of the master at anything is to
= =20 continually recreate the 'Beginner's Mind' =A0that the Buddhist Meditation =
=20 masters
=20 refer to: =A0 =A0that quality of excitement and inspiration when we are new= to
=20 any experience (from being on a honeymoon to getting a cool new
=20 stompbox pedal or looper). =A0 An uninspired or uncreative musician can rea= lly
=20 get into ruts in their playing (and at my age, I've noticed dozens
=20 of contemporary musicians that I have known have completely quit playing =20 because they couldn't get past that hump of overfamiliarity with what
= =20 they are doing.
=20
=20 =A0 A master, on the other hand, =A0 has the ability to continually reinve= nt
=20 themselves, I feel.
=20 It's why I can go see Bill Frissel everytime he plays here in Santa Cruz =20 while on tour.................it's always a fresh experience.
=20 He can even play in what I consider to be cliched styles of playing and mak= e
=20 them fresh because he's so good at being
=20 creative and so good at recontexualizing different genres with his playing.=
=20
=20 So, =A0if sticking to one thing floats your boat and makes you inspired to =
=20 play the best music you can...............more power to you.
=20 But, as a wise man once said: =A0"the truth is one but the paths are many".=
=20
=20 And not to be too trite (lol, or cliched) =A0 'the proofs in the pudding', =
=20 no matter what path a musician takes.
=20
=20
------=_Part_14804_87579871.1216953431389-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 03:16:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80B2C3BE7F; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:05:59 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Gallery Show and opening Sat 07.2.08 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <4PntYB.A.D9H.bWUiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I have several pieces in a show at 119 gallery in Lowell. The opening is Saturday from 3 to 6. One of the pieces is a two channel video installation with sound entitled "Connected and Disconnected Events", inspired by the card "Imagine the piece as a set of disconnected events.", from Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt's original Oblique Strategies deck. Culinary note: There is a wonderful Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. 119 Gallery, 119 Chelmsford St, Lowell www.119gallery.org If you haven't been there, below are directions from the 119 site with a little extra explanation from me. From Boston: Take I93 north to I495, Take I495 south to exit 35C and get on the Lowell Connector, Or Take Rte 2 west to I95, Take I95 north to Rte 3, Take Rte 3 north to exit 30A and get on the Lowell Connector, Then Get off the Connector at exit 4 and turn left on Plain St, Take Plain St to the lights and turn right on Chelmsford St, This part is tricky as its a multi intersection and its poorly signed. You want the 90 degree right, not the angle right past it. Stay on Chelmsford St for 2/3 mile Gallery is on left ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In the Gallery: Alyshia Lien, Dan Rocha, Emile Tobenfeld Winners of the 3rd Annual Juried Show Tuesday- Saturday Through Aug 9 12noon- 5pm Reception: Saturday July 26, 3 p.m. to 6 p.m Alyshia Lien Dan Rocha Emile Tobenfeld [Dr T] -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 05:34:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CD803BE7C; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=PKUQUeAjFouddhJQXQEbgjQ/YpT2y7Oe98zosLQqgsY=; b=Isk0LTu7Mmcue7wMe5NeYN65PtruxtaR86EkPFDc3++haGQIxzEgBuf0LfH6Crmn9R e1iFPWJgoKuLPFIxRzLHjN64LYQIFF5HXMlDfZrfx2ac/KeV5no7WVm5CO/dXUgS/ADw TIgFT2IXMeob2Ce5UwCk2+G9U2K1ck8fi74uA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=vH4ck6fTOCt517Ye9yB5kMOHhLPfrzXoi+6wQWnTwxaINpsGxEZNAEumg82Brhz3Jw qH99BYXTVgAZmb0ZLVg5FjEMGeNmf509YbAAZgIwlgVxixG+E1Z15YL+6qsnULBUqI+d jkbthHF5Yji+SYyi6ZraE6FksoxaR7fUXbYC0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:34:01 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: PLEASE HELP !!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1723_21435334.1216964041075" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:34:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1723_21435334.1216964041075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have an upcoming show and would really like to sync my echoplex digital pro plus with a Dr. Rythym drum machine and i cannot figure how to run it smoothly i have the sync set to IN, and the Quantize set to 8ths, and the 8ths cycle set to 16ths. But it always after about a minute or so begins to fall apart and sound horrible i can sync to my computer just fine and stay in rythym but the drum machine never works for long. Is it possibly a broken drum machine or broken echoplex or even a bad midi cable i dont understand please help? ------=_Part_1723_21435334.1216964041075 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I have an upcoming show and would really like to sync my echoplex digital pro plus with a Dr. Rythym drum machine and i cannot figure how to run it smoothly i have the sync set to IN, and the Quantize set to 8ths, and the 8ths cycle set to 16ths. But it always after about a minute or so begins to fall apart and sound horrible i can sync to my computer just fine and stay in rythym but the drum machine never works for long. Is it possibly a broken drum machine or broken echoplex or even a bad midi cable i dont understand please help?
------=_Part_1723_21435334.1216964041075-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 06:16:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD7143BE7C; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6Ub72iOED8B4+UIa9itT3W7HFAACFbQHyTKvAnd48Eg=; b=Pk2mAPDSCoCDmgUzKjymamDUesAXxKUvOXYWyl1n0cf8mxKgFOUpPTyZGGZZ9Zua+Z gMRgH6hQ1sTh7kmcdvbhChL9saYZXb+OVpHs3LOiHufD4sXNlqCO9N4HPBi49woAOOAF t6FVLeb4c8dDE9+mqdj/1lVA7OcxoOGtWdDvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=LTvGYX30NpmuPee9TuMFTaAHQlKInzlQjEVRrFfbUYLB26crPZf9ASfbKtTECLX6yw v0Db2jZ7dZl0llPfOo8mU3loWwpGKyXo8gzDRzBTjhlguXWLyD2pGfsJS3HwI7xePFAX dVAfAVpQYRzaM/I0Q2cuzeNjiLLx9VbhttJyk= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00807242316u359b8808vd3e3d6b38707c5be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:16:55 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP !!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_138000_17873144.1216966615654" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:16:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_138000_17873144.1216966615654 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm in the same boat. I always set sync out notes from the drum machine to 8th, and then set the cycle on the edp to 8. Does your edp sometimes quit looping after the first one? On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Aaron Austin wrote: > I have an upcoming show and would really like to sync my echoplex digital > pro plus with a Dr. Rythym drum machine and i cannot figure how to run it > smoothly i have the sync set to IN, and the Quantize set to 8ths, and the > 8ths cycle set to 16ths. But it always after about a minute or so begins to > fall apart and sound horrible i can sync to my computer just fine and stay > in rythym but the drum machine never works for long. Is it possibly a broken > drum machine or broken echoplex or even a bad midi cable i dont understand > please help? > ------=_Part_138000_17873144.1216966615654 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm in the same boat. I always set sync out notes from the drum machine to 8th, and then set the cycle on the edp to 8.

Does your edp sometimes quit looping after the first one?

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
I have an upcoming show and would really like to sync my echoplex digital pro plus with a Dr. Rythym drum machine and i cannot figure how to run it smoothly i have the sync set to IN, and the Quantize set to 8ths, and the 8ths cycle set to 16ths. But it always after about a minute or so begins to fall apart and sound horrible i can sync to my computer just fine and stay in rythym but the drum machine never works for long. Is it possibly a broken drum machine or broken echoplex or even a bad midi cable i dont understand please help?

------=_Part_138000_17873144.1216966615654-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 07:30:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D9D03BE84; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52551626/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.155.253 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.155.253 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjgCACceiUhPRpv9/2dsb2JhbAAIkXGfWoM9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,252,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52551626" Message-ID: <48898123.6030107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:30:43 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP !!!! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <917z4.A.rkC.bEYiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:30:36 +0000 (UTC) hi Aaron Don't know if you got my earlier reply (which went to the list) Please keep in mind that it's easier to help if you take time to write out all the relevant details in a clear and unambiguous way. :-) then we can help you quicker. It's not easy to diagnose by email, unless there's a full description of what's going on with your gear. Unfortunately, there's no way to tell from your description whether there's a fault in the midi connection, whether it's the lead, the drum machine or the edp . First thing to check is that all your midi connections are into the correct sockets (my most common mistake :-) >From what you say, it looks like you had a midi cable running from the computer midi interface midi-Out to the edp Midi-In and were able to sync correctly. If that's the case (and if you're still using the same midi cable) then it's pretty likely that you're Midi cable is ok, and the edp is working correctly. You might like to reconnect that configuration again to check that the midi cable hasn't failed since then. There's 2 ways to sync edp *with* a drum machine. The edp can be master or slave. I assumed from your previous post that the edp was slave, but can't be sure. If you tell us which way then we can make further diagnosis. If one way won't work for you, possibly the other will and save your hide at the gig. If the edp is syncing correctly it will display the loop time. It may take a couple of cycles for it to do that. That must be what happens when you sync to the computer. ...but does it happen with the drums????? Is the edp displaying looptime?? NO>>> midi connection bad YES>> likely drum machine is not holding it's tempo, or a slim chance that the midi cable is has an intermittent fault If edp is master, then set Sync=Out hope that helps andy butler Aaron Austin wrote: > I have an upcoming show and would really like to sync my echoplex > digital pro plus with a Dr. Rythym drum machine and i cannot figure how > to run it smoothly i have the sync set to IN, and the Quantize set to > 8ths, and the 8ths cycle set to 16ths. But it always after about a > minute or so begins to fall apart and sound horrible i can sync to my > computer just fine and stay in rythym but the drum machine never works > for long. Is it possibly a broken drum machine or broken echoplex or > even a bad midi cable i dont understand please help? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 13:08:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8E303BE7E; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=ekMkjjz6GPcjYU4GKl5SZKWWH7Vbtw4HotSrERO59xU=; b=rApM0JRbeOcBT9c0ApTx865ePWRbRrQoKEBmWGguNLwVcJCX4lel/ieGoT/BpCiwRY 809s6XrIfDPoj6RnSX+zNXRilG5K1r9UXu7qwULYs4THh34BFUAYR9/9C1ODVXqP9mZ/ OMj3yEV8P5G1DgtjV/YrPbUjNiPG8UsyRvCbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=CerDaNNgFIjy6A56XUs1yAdPKDvESQNGYxxQD+PIUTubKAnAgLn3fHk3JWgPAqY0KT PT+ZUaE52XEwCKRctlE9vEcqzNGMv40ExhPQsoVtIfRy2lY4fyVJHfw2ErnxgILDgPT/ asMk+16wqlTbahH2Kg4/r0O9YykTupRc1tGKI= Message-ID: <101191640807250608y4daf0da7sddea79245716028c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:08:50 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: <20080724233150.277AC3BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c6bd70807241035u5bf64f9q746bf9bfb289bd87@mail.gmail.com> <20080724233150.277AC3BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f827155ba6fddf9e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Interesting discussion. In the realm of jazz guitar, I've been breaking away from cliches by - well, I don't know whether you'd call it "adopting" or "abandoning" position playing. I have a to move all over the neck when playing jazz tunes - if the root is D, I'll want to play at the 5th fret (where the D bass is on string 5) or the 10th (D bass on string 6), more or less. Now I'm trying to play through tunes without changing position - start at the 8th fret and play scales and arpeggios that suit the underlying chords, but without moving from that fret as the tune cycles through all its changes and keys. Then, on the next chorus, do the same thing at the 2nd fret, or in open position. That has certainly been effective for expanding my vocabulary (and, I feel it's made it more authentic-sounding). As I go through these changes, preferring accuracy and coherent phrasing to speed, I find the connection between what I hear in my head and what comes out to be improving as well. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 13:28:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 653613BE7F; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:28:44 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC--Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <9xu24D.A.w8H.OUdiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:28:46 +0000 (UTC) > Rick said > I had to live with a dry sound and it forced me into making a lot of > musical choices that I might now necessarily make. > I think, in the long run, that it really helped my musicianship to have= to > contend with this limitation (my own personal one > as I had really grown to love my distortion and multi-effects pedal). I need change to stay creative and inspired. Live looping techniques have= made that process a lot easier, other gear too. But every now and then, = and that=92s a vicious circle, I end up in a situation with too much gear= . Last week, I thought it was about time to strip down my setup and so I = did=85.just 1 instrument, 1 looper and 1 foot controller, nothing synced.= It can be really refreshing: you re-discover features you were already f= orgotten, you are forced to find workarounds, use other sounds. I can rec= ommend it! To use a clich=E9: =93Less is more=94=85at least for while ;) = Cooperating with other musicians also helps me to keep things interesting= . Yesterday for example, I had an interesting discussion with a jazz musi= cian playing sax. I explained the concept of live looping to him and afte= r listening to some live recordings he was really impressed by the way li= ve loopers use their instruments to create music. He said it would be an = interesting idea to give some live looping classes in his jazz school jus= t to show other musicians there=92s more than just books, chord progressi= ons and technical skills. Sjaak =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 14:00:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ABC83BE7C; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02b301c8ee5e$c6d0d350$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <499c6bd70807241035u5bf64f9q746bf9bfb289bd87@mail.gmail.com> <20080724233150.277AC3BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> <101191640807250608y4daf0da7sddea79245716028c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:00:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:00:23 +0000 (UTC) That's a fun approach, Warren. It certainly lends to great economy of motion. I agree that it really forces you to expact your chord vocabulary, and in many cases, create your own voicings, which was what I used to like to do before I when to the approach I have now. Theoretically, you should be able to play any chord (at least with the primary intervals represented with some implied intervals) in a 4 fret span. Good singer/song writers, with a jazz background and who uses capolls know this. They can stay down in that root position without using bar chords for a long time! A while back I got obsessed with using only voicings where I didn't play the root or fifth. The first time I used that approach was at a club at a jazz jam night, and the keyboard player (friend of mine), looked up from his piano, and had a big smile on his face, like "Hey, you're playing my voicings dude!" He could just top playing and kick back. Ever since then, I became of the believe that in a combo setting where you have a bass player, the only reason to use traditional chord voiciings with the root and fifth (or just the root), was my own ignorance of knowing the really hip substitutions. That mindset led me to this: http://www.krispenhartung.com/chords/index.html These were some of the chords I used that would nearly 100% of the time make a jazz keyboard plyaer look up and me and smile. :) Great moments in time as a axe slinger competing with 10 fingers on keys. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Interesting discussion. In the realm of jazz guitar, I've been > breaking away from cliches by - well, I don't know whether you'd call > it "adopting" or "abandoning" position playing. I have a to move all > over the neck when playing jazz tunes - if the root is D, I'll want to > play at the 5th fret (where the D bass is on string 5) or the 10th (D > bass on string 6), more or less. > > Now I'm trying to play through tunes without changing position - start > at the 8th fret and play scales and arpeggios that suit the underlying > chords, but without moving from that fret as the tune cycles through > all its changes and keys. Then, on the next chorus, do the same thing > at the 2nd fret, or in open position. That has certainly been > effective for expanding my vocabulary (and, I feel it's made it more > authentic-sounding). As I go through these changes, preferring > accuracy and coherent phrasing to speed, I find the connection > between what I hear in my head and what comes out to be improving as > well. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 14:11:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 004DD3BE7C; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02f701c8ee60$4fead400$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Fw: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:11:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:11:22 +0000 (UTC) That's a fun approach, Warren. It certainly lends to great economy of motion. I agree that it really forces you to expact your chord vocabulary, and in many cases, create your own voicings, which was what I used to like to do before I when to the approach I have now. Theoretically, you should be able to play any chord (at least with the primary intervals represented with some implied intervals) in a 4 fret span. Good singer/song writers, with a jazz background and who uses capolls know this. They can stay down in that root position without using bar chords for a long time! A while back I got obsessed with using only voicings where I didn't play the root or fifth. The first time I used that approach was at a club at a jazz jam night, and the keyboard player (friend of mine), looked up from his piano, and had a big smile on his face, like "Hey, you're playing my voicings dude!" He could just top playing and kick back. Ever since then, I became of the believe that in a combo setting where you have a bass player, the only reason to use traditional chord voiciings with the root and fifth (or just the root), was my own ignorance of knowing the really hip substitutions. That mindset led me to this: http://www.krispenhartung.com/chords/index.html These were some of the chords I used that would nearly 100% of the time make a jazz keyboard plyaer look up and me and smile. :) Great moments in time as a axe slinger competing with 10 fingers on keys. Kris > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> Interesting discussion. In the realm of jazz guitar, I've been >> breaking away from cliches by - well, I don't know whether you'd call >> it "adopting" or "abandoning" position playing. I have a to move all >> over the neck when playing jazz tunes - if the root is D, I'll want to >> play at the 5th fret (where the D bass is on string 5) or the 10th (D >> bass on string 6), more or less. >> >> Now I'm trying to play through tunes without changing position - start >> at the 8th fret and play scales and arpeggios that suit the underlying >> chords, but without moving from that fret as the tune cycles through >> all its changes and keys. Then, on the next chorus, do the same thing >> at the 2nd fret, or in open position. That has certainly been >> effective for expanding my vocabulary (and, I feel it's made it more >> authentic-sounding). As I go through these changes, preferring >> accuracy and coherent phrasing to speed, I find the connection >> between what I hear in my head and what comes out to be improving as >> well. >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 17:24:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9920E3BE7E; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VCusjLhHowOEtA6Fxb4GlcB61UamjwrnEGzABwehsC4=; b=mEd6Z4b34SeKGfVRWaTahPwAFylO2AhCAR8Xx8MCN0h6tzVuB7Instjfu2bmULZZ8O e9ocivweQ/Wb+udFwI0v29FV8YatvxKx6Hz0IW6feMhVTO7Z1eoXOf3FPYZGbR6igIP1 ctUjNW1EEPIWWAUzlrPc3qrcaSgos/zyd/FH0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jiYHjoKDHhd/11grd2Oebl1RhccYD0Uxjseo3hunEmh1gmYjqKis07rkzjXNFlW8/E EY6r/xjdjx6pD7x0GtizSJI8aBhi6VfefJmwKX3lcVn+AJf243ykFmkwSvHCq8rn32TZ +f+1hIcFCK6rFAXnU37XdCzZudTLHGaDhyh1I= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:24:19 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP !!!! In-Reply-To: <48898123.6030107@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9588_13387633.1217006659631" References: <48898123.6030107@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <6PLy_C.A.iCE.ExgiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:24:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9588_13387633.1217006659631 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Allright i checked the sockets as you asked and everything seems fine, and i am syncing with the drum machine with the echoplex as a slave to the drum machine. So i have the SYNC = IN, and QUANTIZE = 8th, and 8thCycle= 16 then i press play on the drum machine then wait until the edp lights up a tempo light flashs and overdub glows yellow telling me it is sync but never fails to give me alot of problems so thats that. But i am interested in using the edp as a master as u said hopefully saving my ass how should i do so ? and i hope this e-mail is descriptive enough for a good analysis. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:30 AM, andy butler wrote: > hi Aaron > > Don't know if you got my earlier reply (which went to the list) > Please keep in mind that it's easier to help if you take time to write out > all the relevant details in a clear and unambiguous way. > > :-) then we can help you quicker. > > It's not easy to diagnose by email, > unless there's a full description of what's going on with your gear. > > Unfortunately, there's no way to tell from your description whether there's > a fault in the midi connection, whether it's the lead, the drum machine or > the edp . > > First thing to check is that all your midi connections are into the correct > sockets > (my most common mistake :-) > > > From what you say, it looks like you had a midi cable running from the > computer > midi interface midi-Out to the edp Midi-In and were able to sync correctly. > If that's the case (and if you're still using the same midi cable) then > it's pretty likely that you're Midi cable is ok, and the edp is working > correctly. > You might like to reconnect that configuration again to check that the midi > cable hasn't failed since then. > > > There's 2 ways to sync edp *with* a drum machine. > The edp can be master or slave. I assumed from your previous post that the > edp was slave, > but can't be sure. > > If you tell us which way then we can make further diagnosis. > If one way won't work for you, possibly the other will and save your hide > at the gig. > > > > > If the edp is syncing correctly it will display the loop time. > It may take a couple of cycles for it to do that. > That must be what happens when you sync to the computer. > ...but does it happen with the drums????? > > Is the edp displaying looptime?? > NO>>> midi connection bad > YES>> likely drum machine is not holding it's tempo, or a slim chance that > the midi cable is has an intermittent fault > > > If edp is master, then set Sync=Out > > > hope that helps > > > andy butler > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Austin wrote: > >> I have an upcoming show and would really like to sync my echoplex digital >> pro plus with a Dr. Rythym drum machine and i cannot figure how to run it >> smoothly i have the sync set to IN, and the Quantize set to 8ths, and the >> 8ths cycle set to 16ths. But it always after about a minute or so begins to >> fall apart and sound horrible i can sync to my computer just fine and stay >> in rythym but the drum machine never works for long. Is it possibly a broken >> drum machine or broken echoplex or even a bad midi cable i dont understand >> please help? >> > > ------=_Part_9588_13387633.1217006659631 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Allright i checked the sockets as you asked and everything seems fine, and i am syncing with the drum machine with the echoplex as a slave  to the drum machine.  So i have the SYNC = IN, and QUANTIZE = 8th, and 8thCycle= 16
then i press play on the drum machine then wait until the edp lights up a tempo light flashs and overdub glows yellow telling me it is sync but never fails to give me alot of problems so thats that. But i am interested in using the edp as a master as u said hopefully saving my ass how should i do so ? and i hope this e-mail is descriptive enough for a good analysis.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:30 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Aaron

Don't know if you got my earlier reply (which went to the list)
Please keep in mind that it's easier to help if you take time to write out all the relevant details in a clear and unambiguous way.

:-) then we can help you quicker.

It's not easy to diagnose by email,
unless there's a full description of what's going on with your gear.

Unfortunately, there's no way to tell from your description whether there's a fault in the midi connection, whether it's the lead, the drum machine or the edp .

First thing to check is that all your midi connections are into the correct sockets
(my most common mistake :-)


>From what you say, it looks like you had a midi cable running from the computer
midi interface midi-Out to the edp Midi-In and were able to sync correctly.
If that's the case (and if you're still using the same midi cable) then
it's pretty likely that you're Midi cable is ok, and the edp is working correctly.
You might like to reconnect that configuration again to check that the midi
cable hasn't failed since then.


There's 2 ways to sync edp *with* a drum machine.
The edp can be master or slave. I assumed from your previous post that the edp was slave,
but can't be sure.

If you tell us which way then we can make further diagnosis.
If one way won't work for you, possibly the other will and save your hide at the gig.




If the edp is syncing correctly it will display the loop time.
It may take a couple of cycles for it to do that.
That must be what happens when you sync to the computer.
...but does it happen with the drums?????

Is the edp displaying looptime??
NO>>> midi connection bad
YES>> likely drum machine is not holding it's tempo, or a slim chance that the midi cable is has an intermittent fault


If edp is master, then set Sync=Out


hope that helps


andy butler










Aaron Austin wrote:
I have an upcoming show and would really like to sync my echoplex digital pro plus with a Dr. Rythym drum machine and i cannot figure how to run it smoothly i have the sync set to IN, and the Quantize set to 8ths, and the 8ths cycle set to 16ths. But it always after about a minute or so begins to fall apart and sound horrible i can sync to my computer just fine and stay in rythym but the drum machine never works for long. Is it possibly a broken drum machine or broken echoplex or even a bad midi cable i dont understand please help?


------=_Part_9588_13387633.1217006659631-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 18:29:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FF213BE7E; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 49282740/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.155.253 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.155.253 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjgCAG6ziUhPRpv9/2dsb2JhbAAIkXKeOYM9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,253,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="49282740" Message-ID: <488A1B82.1010809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:29:22 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP !!!! References: <48898123.6030107@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <99ACXB.A.W_E.5thiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Aaron Austin wrote: > Allright i checked the sockets as you asked and everything seems fine, > and i am syncing with the drum machine with the echoplex as a slave to > the drum machine. So i have the SYNC = IN, and QUANTIZE = 8th, and > 8thCycle= 16 you don't need QUANTISE = 8th It shouldn't make a difference, but if you're desperate try Quantise=OFF > then i press play on the drum machine then wait until the edp lights up > a tempo light flashs and overdub glows yellow telling me it is sync but > never fails to give me alot of problems so thats that. the yellow LED is an indication that Midi clock is incoming, but it comes on right away when midi clock is detected, and isn't saying you got sync. (I had to fire up the edp for that knowledge) when the edp syncs it displays the looptime. If you don't see the looptime....don't start Record. It *could* be that you just aren't giving the edp time to sync. The edp also flashes a green led at the bottom right of it's numeric display once a bar for sync. If you're seeing the looptime before you hit record, and still losing sync then something's very wrong. Perhaps the drum machine's not keeping time exactly enough. ( I know that's unlikely...but what else?) > But i am > interested in using the edp as a master as u said hopefully saving my > ass how should i do so ? Sync = Out, Or Sync = OuS OuS sends extra commands to the drum machine, you'll have to look that up if you need it. then swap round the midi cable in the obvious way > and i hope this e-mail is descriptive enough > for a good analysis. wish I could solve your problem. I'm away for the weekend, so can't do more til next week. Maybe someone else here can help. Claude Voit is the EDP midi guru Luis Angelo is great at using edp as sync master for a drum machine. andy butler > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:30 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > hi Aaron > > Don't know if you got my earlier reply (which went to the list) > Please keep in mind that it's easier to help if you take time to > write out all the relevant details in a clear and unambiguous way. > > :-) then we can help you quicker. > > It's not easy to diagnose by email, > unless there's a full description of what's going on with your gear. > > Unfortunately, there's no way to tell from your description whether > there's a fault in the midi connection, whether it's the lead, the > drum machine or the edp . > > First thing to check is that all your midi connections are into the > correct sockets > (my most common mistake :-) > > > >From what you say, it looks like you had a midi cable running from > the computer > midi interface midi-Out to the edp Midi-In and were able to sync > correctly. > If that's the case (and if you're still using the same midi cable) then > it's pretty likely that you're Midi cable is ok, and the edp is > working correctly. > You might like to reconnect that configuration again to check that > the midi > cable hasn't failed since then. > > > There's 2 ways to sync edp *with* a drum machine. > The edp can be master or slave. I assumed from your previous post > that the edp was slave, > but can't be sure. > > If you tell us which way then we can make further diagnosis. > If one way won't work for you, possibly the other will and save your > hide at the gig. > > > > > If the edp is syncing correctly it will display the loop time. > It may take a couple of cycles for it to do that. > That must be what happens when you sync to the computer. > ...but does it happen with the drums????? > > Is the edp displaying looptime?? > NO>>> midi connection bad > YES>> likely drum machine is not holding it's tempo, or a slim > chance that the midi cable is has an intermittent fault > > > If edp is master, then set Sync=Out > > > hope that helps > > > andy butler > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Austin wrote: > > I have an upcoming show and would really like to sync my > echoplex digital pro plus with a Dr. Rythym drum machine and i > cannot figure how to run it smoothly i have the sync set to IN, > and the Quantize set to 8ths, and the 8ths cycle set to 16ths. > But it always after about a minute or so begins to fall apart > and sound horrible i can sync to my computer just fine and stay > in rythym but the drum machine never works for long. Is it > possibly a broken drum machine or broken echoplex or even a bad > midi cable i dont understand please help? > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 18:45:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3B753BE80; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:45:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: <101191640807250608y4daf0da7sddea79245716028c@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjuV5pldDbKOGpYSEyn/UN7kvWrCAALbmYw Message-Id: <20080725184528.6FA113BE75@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-0-8fB.A.aRF.I9hiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Back in the dark ages when I was studying guitar in Boston, William Leavitt was my private teacher. Besides hooking me to the metronome, he had a couple other things that he would force on me at lessons. One was to play with my eyes closed, visualizing the fingerboard and taking risks on long leaps of ten to fourteen frets, resolving the notes musically if I came out on the wrong one (citing Charlie Parker's quote "There's no such thing as a bad note--only a bad resolution.") The other was trickier than that. I'd play a solo, and he'd say "Good. Now go back and play that same solo on just the fourth string." This forced some interesting movements, to say the least, and while I rarely--if ever--actually executed the exact solo phrase, it gave each string more fertile territory and broke up the box-position habits very nicely. dave Warren Sirota Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:09 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) Interesting discussion. In the realm of jazz guitar, I've been breaking away from cliches by - well, I don't know whether you'd call it "adopting" or "abandoning" position playing. I have a to move all over the neck when playing jazz tunes - if the root is D, I'll want to play at the 5th fret (where the D bass is on string 5) or the 10th (D bass on string 6), more or less. Now I'm trying to play through tunes without changing position - start at the 8th fret and play scales and arpeggios that suit the underlying chords, but without moving from that fret as the tune cycles through all its changes and keys. Then, on the next chorus, do the same thing at the 2nd fret, or in open position. That has certainly been effective for expanding my vocabulary (and, I feel it's made it more authentic-sounding). As I go through these changes, preferring accuracy and coherent phrasing to speed, I find the connection between what I hear in my head and what comes out to be improving as well. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 19:19:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF9AD3BE79; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:19:07 -0300 From: Mike Kilburn Subject: Boss RC-2 tip To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight. com" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_TfPVJaUkjerqAjtD0ZMrEw)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAI3DiUgY3qyM/2dsb2JhbACCcq1F X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,253,1215399600"; d="scan'208,217";a="268697486" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:19:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_TfPVJaUkjerqAjtD0ZMrEw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT For all you RC-2’rs. I stumbled across a way of erasing phrases when you’re simply creating them on the fly and not saving them to memory. This will allow you to not have to keep bending down to mess with the phrase track knob to eliminate your last loop phrase. Here’s what I do: - connect an FS-5U pedal and instead having the switch moved toward the plugged in cable (as rec’d). move it in the other direction. - Select the drum track you want - Set the mode switch to the normal operating mode (second position from right) - Press the pedal in sync with your first chord, note whatever you start with and play through your phrase progression/loop (you won’t hear the drum/guide track during this initial recording. - Press the pedal and your loop is going, then overdub at will - When you’re finished with that loop and want to create a new one (using the same drum track), press the pedal and hold it down until the loop stops playing (usually one measure), press the FS-5U pedal once the drum track may go for a couple of beats then stop, then press the RC-2 pedal once (it may play for a couple of beats then it stops. - Now you’re ready to start again, and you start ove rusing the same drum track. Not sure if this is simply a glitch but the manual doesn’t mention this and believe it saves the bending over and over and over thing, unless you’re working on your abs! Mike --Boundary_(ID_TfPVJaUkjerqAjtD0ZMrEw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

For all you RC-2’rs. I stumbled across a way of erasing phrases when you’re simply creating them on the fly and not saving them to memory. This will allow you to not have to keep bending down to mess with the phrase track knob to eliminate your last loop phrase. Here’s what I do:

-          connect an FS-5U pedal and instead having the switch moved toward the plugged in cable (as rec’d). move it in the other direction.

-          Select the drum track you want

-          Set the mode switch to the normal operating mode (second position from right)

-          Press the pedal in sync with your first chord, note whatever you start with and play through your phrase progression/loop (you won’t hear the drum/guide track during this initial recording.

-          Press the pedal and your loop is going, then overdub at will

-          When you’re finished with that loop and want to create a new one (using the same drum track), press the pedal and hold it down until the loop stops playing (usually one measure), press the FS-5U pedal once the drum track may go for a couple of beats then stop, then press the RC-2 pedal once (it may play for a couple of beats then it stops.

-          Now you’re ready to start again, and you start ove rusing the same drum track.

 

Not sure if this is simply a glitch but the manual doesn’t mention this and believe it saves the bending over and over and over thing, unless you’re working on your abs!

 

Mike

--Boundary_(ID_TfPVJaUkjerqAjtD0ZMrEw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 19:30:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B71C83BE7F; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2/w3uGHZtVkIQASaqZD2dv0u2tTWj6Tldpp7PD+08io=; b=JHHK++RgbXseRejenLBG7HB85QjFO8h6ADaFqPCxoIcDqQ5Yyxr8xUl8A/CUmK5m6a Q0mhdQFKentfPGeVcSxerL2t3n+bMflJVeNRcf/jE2OIpNhuyGbbFlc83FFa5hNQIGMx +kcs9HtK8Ad3VHvESxYQdhJ1tQbL/WKKerLe4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BLVRG/XtAxFZUhLjlwB8UWpxHavDCbuMr3Ey+jAi98Z6oB2ks4IJKgZEW4eu6TuQnN FNqoGIDej06UVoK1F35ri3MPph2STvmzKsv+qNuRf425rrcEEGE0ykkKEezK8aIH95ga erPSlLgARSzOrNmaJjLasu6yncqOHfu0Gsin0= Message-ID: <8c82d1660807251230p35c764a9j9c58036d85d0d40f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:30:57 -0400 From: "Patrick Suler" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: <20080725184528.6FA113BE75@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15476_13528314.1217014257163" References: <101191640807250608y4daf0da7sddea79245716028c@mail.gmail.com> <20080725184528.6FA113BE75@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:30:59 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15476_13528314.1217014257163 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This may be a bit of a cop out but... The phrase comes to mind..."Whatever blows wind up your skirt." In other words, some of us felt the need to switch instruments. THATs WHAT WORKED FOR US. If YOU develop techniques that don't require that, then awesome. That's excellent. But for me, after playing the blues scales, and certain chord progressions, and HEARING the guitar in just such a way for my whole life, it was a huge struggle to play something really, really new. Also, keep in mind that Mr. Per and I ( and some others) were also looking for different sounds. And the synth did that for me. We all must pursue the paths we discover! ------=_Part_15476_13528314.1217014257163 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
This may be a bit of a cop out but...

The phrase comes to mind..."Whatever blows wind up your skirt."

In other words, some of us felt the need to switch instruments. THATs WHAT WORKED FOR US. If YOU develop techniques that don't require that, then awesome. That's excellent.

But for me, after playing the blues scales, and certain chord progressions, and HEARING the guitar in just such a way for my whole life, it was a huge struggle to play something really, really new.

Also, keep in mind that Mr. Per and I ( and some others) were also looking for different sounds. And the synth did that for me. We all must pursue the paths we discover!
------=_Part_15476_13528314.1217014257163-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 25 19:58:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 720DE3BE7C; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=qxwrJaVBdPZQx/TpG99YVVNj7f5xj5/WSIXO+BPyzW8=; b=OIKSm0jdEZNerYcnyFoQUFFWAXkmz6MpBKVcLI3fjOkfANHnT/iWp+JVTLlmViimFZ Dia3FA4b/mdD/+y82Kvsxxj/5pILx6scc//E8I02pkEQaVdz0BiWwtZceGsXcP17e1Ml CtCgtUbX9qgjsOa5YoM9lNekoPk9w6M85iYcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=vlwcqh1LGr6qvrN9fgcsswzjARYGg+PFO7y8llWLT1C0F1vRqUf9Gxzd5hFJRms1Rc jhJLetmrkAofyHovPBN9lcmAvR/guPS6h5Y93wv+U+KCMJK1cEC7r6avzg5+7lWBIHE6 oV7P4TENZySoq81/t1Y1mLktzP5kr8aOKpP2k= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0807251258g751ff8eaj6fcb66b501906ba4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:58:52 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: <8c82d1660807251230p35c764a9j9c58036d85d0d40f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15917_19937791.1217015932913" References: <101191640807250608y4daf0da7sddea79245716028c@mail.gmail.com> <20080725184528.6FA113BE75@arsenic.violacea.com> <8c82d1660807251230p35c764a9j9c58036d85d0d40f@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 801cad1db3d7bf81 Resent-Message-ID: <55SgHB.A.laG.-BjiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:58:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15917_19937791.1217015932913 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I must say that Im finding this thread very interesting. I never realized there was so many conventionally accomplished musicians here! Its fascinating to me that you have all tried to UN-learn, or stretch yourselves in new ways despite the enormity of your obvious skills. Im really quite humbled! Speaking as an absolutely TERRIBLE musician technically, I must say that having learned one scale (blah blah pentatonic blues usual thing) Im buggered if I will ever learn anything new as far as new scales or chords go. I struggle daily with my abilities and have come to realize that after ohh what is it...? 32 years of playing guitar, I dont think Im ever gonna be much better. HOWEVER, I DO sympathize with the notion. I find that just putting one new thing (usually an effect) or removing something (which I just did this weekend, arrival of new mixer, not so versatile as the old, but smaller and more rackable (and not broken) - therefore resulting in having to remove 2 effects that used to have their own AUX's) really can push you to new things. The steady but never-ending rotation of gear in my set-up means that I am always just on the verge of feeling I have mastered it, but no... So i dont really try strange things (new scales, no scales, play left handed, switch instrument) to find new things, they just happen, slowly over the years... Very slowly. I watched a bit of my past last night on YouTube that I had never seen before now, http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q-RxSn7NGgY&e 16 years ago... and... well Im still playing like that !! DAMN!! I would like to afford, buy, and learn to play a chapman stick however (the one with midi) it seems like a WHOLE NEW KETTLE OF FISK. And quite a learning curve, but I believe that maybe its the perfect instrument for me... specially as I have never ... repeat (duck, don fireproof clothing.. ) seen anyone playing one in a style that I like!!! An instrument only used by rich, clever dick musos!!! WOW, what I could do with one of them... (slowely and in a a pentatonic blues scale and too many distortion effects) :-) m PS: Kris, I have just gone to your chord page... very interesting.. tried a few out... no Idea what it all means, but a couple I have learned, and will chuck them in randomly in future!!! ------=_Part_15917_19937791.1217015932913 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I must say that Im finding this thread very interesting. I never realized there was so many conventionally accomplished musicians here! Its fascinating to me that you have all tried to UN-learn, or stretch yourselves in new ways despite the enormity of your obvious skills. Im really quite humbled!

Speaking as an absolutely TERRIBLE musician technically, I must say that having learned one scale (blah blah pentatonic blues usual thing) Im buggered if I will ever learn anything new as far as new scales or chords go. I struggle daily with my abilities and have come to realize that after ohh what is it...? 32 years of playing guitar, I dont think Im ever gonna be much better.

HOWEVER, I DO sympathize with the notion. I find that just putting one new thing (usually an effect) or removing something (which I just did this weekend, arrival of new mixer, not so versatile as the old, but smaller and more rackable (and not broken) - therefore resulting in having to remove 2 effects that used to have their own AUX's) really can push you to new things. The steady but never-ending rotation of gear in my set-up means that I am always just on the verge of feeling I have mastered it, but no...

So i dont really try strange things (new scales, no scales, play left handed, switch instrument) to find new things, they just happen, slowly over the years... Very slowly.

I watched a bit of my past last night on YouTube that I had never seen before now,

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q-RxSn7NGgY&e

16 years ago... and... well Im still playing like that !! DAMN!!

I would like to afford, buy, and learn to play a chapman stick however (the one with midi) it seems like a WHOLE NEW KETTLE OF FISK. And quite a learning curve, but I believe that maybe its the perfect instrument for me...  specially as I have never ... repeat (duck, don fireproof clothing.. ) seen anyone playing one in a style that I like!!! An instrument only used by rich, clever dick musos!!! WOW, what I could do with one of them... (slowely and in a a pentatonic blues scale and too many distortion effects)


:-)

m

PS: Kris, I have just gone to your chord page... very interesting.. tried a few out... no Idea what it all means, but a couple I have learned, and will chuck them in randomly in future!!!
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:35:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:35:56 +0000 (UTC) I"m vexed over the behaviour of my EDP and think I may not know some of it's capabilities. Specifically, I have a preset (PRESET =0) where INS = SUS. I have this specifically to use the loop length changing capability of MULTIPLY = SUS (as controlled by INS = SUS). My problem is this. If I use this preset, then switch INS = SUB in the middle of my loop (to substitute 8th slices in my loop); change INS back to SUS to control my length of multiply, MULTIPLY won't return to SUS anymore.. Am I doing something wrong, or is this just something the EDP won't do. Any help at all would be appreciated. yours, Rick Walker Just to be completely accurate, here are all of my settings in this preset: PRESET 0 LOP/DLY = LOP QUANTIZE = 8th 8th/Cycle = 5 (I want to use INS = SUB to replace slices and conform my loop to a 5/8 rhythm) SYNC = OFF THRESHOLD = 0 REC MODE = TOG OVERDUB = SUS (love this one) ROUND = OFF INS = SUS then switches to INS = SUB then switches back to INS = SUS all in the same loop MUTE = CNTRL OVERFLOW = STP CHANNEL = 1 CNTRL SOURCE = NOT SOURCE # = 36 VOLUME CONTROL = 7 FEEDBACK/CNTRL = 1 MORE LOOPS = 1 AUTO RECORD = OFF SWITCH QUANT = OFF LOOP TRIG = 84 (should this be OFF?) VELOCITY = OFF SAMPLER STYLE = RUN From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 12:18:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A3AD3BE80; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:18:53 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <20080724233150.277AC3BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-ID: <20080726121853.31930@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080724233150.277AC3BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: RE: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18fWSBg+yQf6bim7sTJ4MNqhzqCnwIy/Y9h4k5MbV DPBqFx72DYbX1+gPXUFHsTl44RMdvVjOkHIQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: GSS5e0g7PTR+F54oyjMwNss5c2tpZEvf Resent-Message-ID: <0x3bKC.A._JB.vYxiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:18:55 +0000 (UTC) >if one is to completely avoid clichés The final confrontation of deilberately avoiding cliches is imo: stop being obsessed with avoiding cliches. Avoiding cliches comes with a cost. I eventually stopped seeking it for the sake of musicality or playing what's "right", genuine etc. - even if it means ending up with a cliche riff or a cheesy modulation ;-) Buzap. -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 12:23:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2D603BE87; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:23:24 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080726122324.31920@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Boss RC-2 tip To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+3alMLS6W3buOLY7bauaR+iXAHABu8NaUjh1ssO9 P0HycUwOyrlRvLHtOuLwMKzBk2CZpxbp2WUQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: XXvgIDFZTlI8ScF+jGlrUq5OU2poZRny Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Interesting, thanks Mike. I'll just give it a try. Wonder actually if it also works without drum tracks... Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 13:16:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD72D3BE82; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_19d8aec3-fe16-451b-8252-a51b4f70a97f_" X-Originating-IP: [4.246.78.118] From: samba - Subject: yahoo shutting down drm Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:16:20 -0700 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2008 13:16:21.0610 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC0814A0:01C8EF21] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:16:22 +0000 (UTC) --_19d8aec3-fe16-451b-8252-a51b4f70a97f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/24/yahoo-music-shutting.html Yahoo Music just announced that it's pulling the plug on its DRM server -- that means that as of September 30=2C everyone who bought Yahoo Music will lose the ability to recover it from backup or transfer it to a new PC. 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Enter Now! = --_19d8aec3-fe16-451b-8252-a51b4f70a97f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 13:30:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC8A43BE7F; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:30:14 -0300 From: Mike Kilburn Subject: RE: Boss RC-2 tip In-reply-to: <20080726122324.31920@gmx.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAD/DikgY3qyM/2dsb2JhbACuTQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,255,1215399600"; d="scan'208";a="280821256" Resent-Message-ID: <1GGGU.A.nOC.nbyiIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:30:15 +0000 (UTC) I think I covered the steps in sequence that I follow but in any case it works if you're OK to stick with the one drum track while doing this. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Buzap Buzap [mailto:buzap@gmx.net] Sent: July 26, 2008 9:23 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boss RC-2 tip Interesting, thanks Mike. I'll just give it a try. Wonder actually if it also works without drum tracks... Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/616919 6 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1574 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 4:27 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 15:41:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A81943BE86; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:41:38 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080726154138.29940@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: RE: Boss RC-2 tip -- AWESOME!! :-)) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18XqOMmBGoXwIw/W+i9k4yMKvxJsRGFSwJLN1ZJrR l4GdW3NCtRCsI/aRo/OeDOeB9/gX9H/tphmQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: gHy4cIc/MmA6QsJ3kGBnopw5MjQ1N52s Resent-Message-ID: <1MmWWC.A.huE.0W0iIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Well, this new "feature" is great, Mike! It's even better: Essentially, when you use an external foot switch with the RC-2, the stop function will work just like on the RC-20XL & RC-50, which means: WHEN YOU KEEP THE EXTERNAL STOP PEDAL PRESSED ON THE RC-2 FOR LONGER THAN 2 SECONDS, IT WILL DELETE THE CURRENT LOOP. You don't need to tweak anything, no need to switch polarity, adjust a drum pattern etc - it just works all the time!!! :-)) And your set to record a new loop immediately. This opens a whole new dimension of possibilities... Man, this is really what I LOVE about the Boss RC-* Loopers. Just about when you know _everything_ about it, you stumble over a completely unkown feature :)) I'm excited :-))) Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 15:49:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E75B73BE88; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=a8GJqQ1826ASpPnxPNTOc/lqwtrHwjYsw43+Cb7wR+PthCt80QJceKI1hREhiG+3mI7O22kQcPbW2L/W6vyr4ivIqkrt+i0v1QQ2gj7s0b5M1/3EJYIzJO5WqjnHcE89TgAziOX/uDRV2Gj85uONxfjQno65pjtW6NIkKTbIo68=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:48:59 -0700 (PDT) From: David Durian Subject: RE: Pretec CFCs and Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1164342662-1217087339=:87010" Message-ID: <777342.87010.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:49:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-1164342662-1217087339=:87010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi again all, My Pretec CFC arrived today from Tima Tec, and I am pleased to say it works as well on my Repeater running the 2.01.04 version of the OS as the previous reports we've heard when folks were reporting on tests. I got a 512 MB card--the number on it is CFH512EHG. Previously, I was using one of the "lucky" Simpletech 128 MB cards--the ones that have the Hitachi controller and work flawlessly. The Pretec card appears to work just as well as it, based on my first tests today. It stood up to all tests I threw at it without choking (no slow CFC error messages). These include: Stereo record Stereo overdub Stereo record on 1 & 2, then on 3 & 4 Stereo overdub on 1 & 2, then on 3 & 4 Reverse stereo overdub Reverse stereo overdub on 1 & 2, then on 3 & 4 Multiply Pitch Shift Stereo overdub on Pitch Shifting tracks I am a very happy man right now--it is so very nice. Best, David --0-1164342662-1217087339=:87010 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi again all,

My Pretec CFC arrived today from Tima Tec, and I am pleased to say it works as well on my Repeater running the 2.01.04 version of the OS as the previous reports we've heard when folks were reporting on tests.

I got a 512 MB card--the number on it is CFH512EHG.

Previously, I was using one of the "lucky" Simpletech 128 MB cards--the ones that have the Hitachi controller and work flawlessly. The Pretec card appears to work just as well as it, based on my first tests today.

It stood up to all tests I threw at it without choking (no slow CFC error messages).

These include:

Stereo record
Stereo overdub
Stereo record on 1 & 2, then on 3 & 4
Stereo overdub on 1 & 2, then on 3 & 4
Reverse stereo overdub
Reverse stereo overdub on 1 & 2, then on 3 & 4
Multiply
Pitch Shift
Stereo overdub on Pitch Shifting tracks

I am a very happy man right now--it is so very nice.

Best,

David



--0-1164342662-1217087339=:87010-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 15:57:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4122D3BE87; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Erdem in EM Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:57:51 -0700 Message-ID: <009d01c8ef38$5c216a80$14643f80$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009E_01C8EEFD.AFC29280" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acjui1EvteSGlWDaRYOFACjzmBuI+AArI65w Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:57:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C8EEFD.AFC29280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I just received the August copy of EM , and was thrilled to see a feature article about Erdem Helacioglu. I really like his album "Altered Realities" which is also a subject of the article. Congratulations, Erdem !! -Qua ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C8EEFD.AFC29280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

I just received the August copy of EM , and was thrilled = to see a feature article about Erdem Helacioglu.    I really = like his album “Altered Realities” which is also a subject of the = article.

Congratulations, Erdem !!

 

-Qua

------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C8EEFD.AFC29280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 16:08:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3D8E3BE87; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008d01c8ef39$cde91cc0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <009d01c8ef38$5c216a80$14643f80$@com> Subject: Re: Erdem in EM Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:08:12 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008A_01C8EF52.F30866F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:08:20 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C8EF52.F30866F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, thanks a lot for letting me know. unfortunately we can not find = electronic musician magazine in stores here in istanbul. so i have to = wait for a week to get a copy in ny! will play at the New Albion = festival at Bard college. if anyone is around the area, would love to = meet you loopers delight folks. best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Qua Veda=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: Erdem in EM Hi,=20 I just received the August copy of EM , and was thrilled to see a = feature article about Erdem Helacioglu. I really like his album = "Altered Realities" which is also a subject of the article. Congratulations, Erdem !! =20 -Qua ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C8EF52.F30866F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey,
 
thanks a lot for letting me know. unfortunately we can not find = electronic=20 musician magazine in stores here in istanbul. so i have to wait for a = week to=20 get a copy in ny! will play at the New Albion festival at Bard college. = if=20 anyone is around the area, would love to meet you loopers delight = folks.
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Qua Veda =
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 = 6:57=20 PM
Subject: Erdem in EM

Hi,=20

I=20 just received the August copy of EM , and was thrilled to see a = feature=20 article about Erdem Helacioglu.    I really like his = album=20 =93Altered Realities=94 which is also a subject of the=20 article.

Congratulations,=20 Erdem !!

 

-Qua

------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C8EF52.F30866F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 17:18:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0928A3BE82; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:12:55 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for July 26, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <488B5B17.2060004@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:18:38 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2008/080726.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Listen to WMUH now at: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm Show #134 July 26, 2008. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early isses came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. 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Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. 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To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 17:52:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F29D93BE85; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6nMZ/c/NOIpctoCEPc9Tq0Lx7NjM4R1BGUsf59P09u0=; b=lId6fNgd63auVCIkwhl1rdnFBjP2W9LJRsMLa4mX+N3Z64RBbjo+bqZ8qgAoGUd3yT 48H18JE5hXA65pZ1nuXHAz3+jNwbJWyfUhXnkUZczinIfMfvMuhZy1gdI+1z80NmjvXH /dsBRI4XWeFIsSZOdG5mD4oS26js7VwSw8IH0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Xl2XIfGc563ZEVDP5GaP7qCEdIVO9BZUVrhrnIxgWCSZUnZLEjvZrWx4VsSZp5LaKW 6W7HjaOaj8z5P9B783C2T6OhgKySB2rZWttjctjS3tr6ADjj1iis0mP52+SFXtvMifiQ 9Mp6A5a4EAFjDMQ7WF0xo/d4RiVHxxLLhBmkc= Message-ID: <4759e5740807261052v50c9af7y22093f9bd7dd5f5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:52:12 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Erdem in EM In-Reply-To: <008d01c8ef39$cde91cc0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3285_30836641.1217094732129" References: <009d01c8ef38$5c216a80$14643f80$@com> <008d01c8ef39$cde91cc0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: <_cgrXB.A.WXH.NR2iIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:52:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3285_30836641.1217094732129 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline why didn't you tell me? I'm two hours north, Erdem... let's hook up and discuss our world domination! T. On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hey, > > thanks a lot for letting me know. unfortunately we can not find electronic > musician magazine in stores here in istanbul. so i have to wait for a week > to get a copy in ny! will play at the New Albion festival at Bard college. > if anyone is around the area, would love to meet you loopers delight folks. > > best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Qua Veda > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:57 PM > *Subject:* Erdem in EM > > Hi, > > I just received the August copy of EM , and was thrilled to see a feature > article about Erdem Helacioglu. I really like his album "Altered > Realities" which is also a subject of the article. > > Congratulations, Erdem !! > > > > -Qua > > -- Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_3285_30836641.1217094732129 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
why didn't you tell me?  I'm two hours north, Erdem... let's hook up and discuss our world domination!

T.



On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:
hey,
 
thanks a lot for letting me know. unfortunately we can not find electronic musician magazine in stores here in istanbul. so i have to wait for a week to get a copy in ny! will play at the New Albion festival at Bard college. if anyone is around the area, would love to meet you loopers delight folks.
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8
----- Original Message -----
From: Qua Veda
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: Erdem in EM

Hi,

I just received the August copy of EM , and was thrilled to see a feature article about Erdem Helacioglu.    I really like his album "Altered Realities" which is also a subject of the article.

Congratulations, Erdem !!

 

-Qua




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------=_Part_3285_30836641.1217094732129-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 26 17:54:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 399BE3BE7F; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=tTnDef9bFeFDWlIxAyEkagLQLYixFxknYKiLvTovOE4=; b=cASp7s3KWcZSL4obdMubAe2BUFiO+Mn7a+Sn0+H30sWDyhiWXkPKNrjTZ1rZs1ZBl0 AY50OZhyKK+bN/D1dUKJZHA9BZtntuli7/qgWOITUI7c9Qi434w30Mf1sn1z618P0ooZ b2QPAhG6Kkpn3rsLH21iudPfQZ4gff9fIL3PM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=g9so2ZAXyPy9yrvqkxvFaRviyIuHYD1oZ5zyL2Zp42arC6Vn1fGBpjHDHIa+nSegRf unDeWAZeIPfzXHrh1KjhFmLd3Uk29fmVJgEgtUrQRwwqgbb64QLf8kxPEQhuMryX7hQa oMEFJIz0AKakb5m6ZnGsQvx5NMdn295iPs6lU= Message-ID: <4759e5740807261054g1de08bdbn25915659b7d90384@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:54:00 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) In-Reply-To: <02b301c8ee5e$c6d0d350$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3296_13436106.1217094840142" References: <499c6bd70807241035u5bf64f9q746bf9bfb289bd87@mail.gmail.com> <20080724233150.277AC3BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> <101191640807250608y4daf0da7sddea79245716028c@mail.gmail.com> <02b301c8ee5e$c6d0d350$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:54:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3296_13436106.1217094840142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline nice, kris... your 'chord progression's' link is busted, however... t. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > That's a fun approach, Warren. It certainly lends to great economy of > motion. I agree that it really forces you to expact your chord vocabulary, > and in many cases, create your own voicings, which was what I used to like > to do before I when to the approach I have now. Theoretically, you should > be able to play any chord (at least with the primary intervals represented > with some implied intervals) in a 4 fret span. Good singer/song writers, > with a jazz background and who uses capolls know this. They can stay down > in that root position without using bar chords for a long time! > > A while back I got obsessed with using only voicings where I didn't play > the root or fifth. The first time I used that approach was at a club at a > jazz jam night, and the keyboard player (friend of mine), looked up from his > piano, and had a big smile on his face, like "Hey, you're playing my > voicings dude!" He could just top playing and kick back. Ever since then, I > became of the believe that in a combo setting where you have a bass player, > the only reason to use traditional chord voiciings with the root and fifth > (or just the root), was my own ignorance of knowing the really hip > substitutions. That mindset led me to this: > http://www.krispenhartung.com/chords/index.html > These were some of the chords I used that would nearly 100% of the time > make a jazz keyboard plyaer look up and me and smile. :) Great moments in > time as a axe slinger competing with 10 fingers on keys. > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Interesting discussion. In the realm of jazz guitar, I've been >> breaking away from cliches by - well, I don't know whether you'd call >> it "adopting" or "abandoning" position playing. I have a to move all >> over the neck when playing jazz tunes - if the root is D, I'll want to >> play at the 5th fret (where the D bass is on string 5) or the 10th (D >> bass on string 6), more or less. >> >> Now I'm trying to play through tunes without changing position - start >> at the 8th fret and play scales and arpeggios that suit the underlying >> chords, but without moving from that fret as the tune cycles through >> all its changes and keys. Then, on the next chorus, do the same thing >> at the 2nd fret, or in open position. That has certainly been >> effective for expanding my vocabulary (and, I feel it's made it more >> authentic-sounding). As I go through these changes, preferring >> accuracy and coherent phrasing to speed, I find the connection >> between what I hear in my head and what comes out to be improving as >> well. >> >> > -- Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_3296_13436106.1217094840142 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
nice, kris... your 'chord progression's' link is busted, however... 

t.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
That's a fun approach, Warren.  It certainly lends to great economy of motion. I agree that it really forces you to expact your chord vocabulary, and in many cases, create your own voicings, which was what I used to like to do before I when to the approach I have now.  Theoretically, you should be able to play any chord (at least with the primary intervals represented with some implied intervals) in a 4 fret span.  Good singer/song writers, with a jazz background and  who uses capolls know this. They can stay down in that root position without using bar chords for a long time!

A while back I got obsessed with using only voicings where I didn't play the root or fifth. The first time I used that approach was at a club at a jazz jam night, and the keyboard player (friend of mine), looked up from his piano, and had a big smile on his face, like "Hey, you're playing my voicings dude!"  He could just top playing and kick back. Ever since then, I became of the believe that in a combo setting where you have a bass player, the only reason to use traditional chord voiciings with the root and fifth (or just the root), was my own ignorance of knowing the really hip substitutions.  That mindset led me to this: http://www.krispenhartung.com/chords/index.html
These were some of the chords I used that would nearly 100% of the time make a jazz keyboard plyaer look up and me and smile.  :)  Great moments in time as a axe slinger competing with 10 fingers on keys.

Kris


----- Original Message -----

Interesting discussion. In the realm of jazz guitar, I've been
breaking away from cliches by - well, I don't know whether you'd call
it "adopting" or "abandoning" position playing. I have a to move all
over the neck when playing jazz tunes - if the root is D, I'll want to
play at the 5th fret (where the D bass is on string 5) or the 10th (D
bass on string 6), more or less.

Now I'm trying to play through tunes without changing position - start
at the 8th fret and play scales and arpeggios that suit the underlying
chords, but without moving from that fret as the tune cycles through
all its changes and keys. Then, on the next chorus, do the same thing
at the 2nd fret, or in open position. That has certainly been
effective for expanding my vocabulary (and, I feel it's made it more
authentic-sounding). As I go through these changes, preferring
accuracy and coherent phrasing to speed, I find  the  connection
between what I hear in my head and what comes out to be improving as
well.





--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
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All fixed now.
----- Original Message -----
 

nice, kris... your 'chord progression's' link is = busted,=20 however... 

t.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Krispen = Hartung=20 <khartung@cableone.net>=20 wrote:
That's=20 a fun approach, Warren.  It certainly lends to great economy of = motion.=20 I agree that it really forces you to expact your chord vocabulary, = and in=20 many cases, create your own voicings, which was what I used to like = to do=20 before I when to the approach I have now.  Theoretically, you = should be=20 able to play any chord (at least with the primary intervals = represented with=20 some implied intervals) in a 4 fret span.  Good singer/song = writers,=20 with a jazz background and  who uses capolls know this. They = can stay=20 down in that root position without using bar chords for a long=20 time!

A while back I got obsessed with using only voicings = where I=20 didn't play the root or fifth. The first time I used that approach = was at a=20 club at a jazz jam night, and the keyboard player (friend of mine), = looked=20 up from his piano, and had a big smile on his face, like "Hey, = you're=20 playing my voicings dude!"  He could just top playing and kick = back.=20 Ever since then, I became of the believe that in a combo setting = where you=20 have a bass player, the only reason to use traditional chord = voiciings with=20 the root and fifth (or just the root), was my own ignorance of = knowing the=20 really hip substitutions.  That mindset led me to this: http://www.krispenhartung.com/chords/index.html
Th= ese=20 were some of the chords I used that would nearly 100% of the time = make a=20 jazz keyboard plyaer look up and me and smile.  :)  Great = moments=20 in time as a axe slinger competing with 10 fingers on = keys.

Kris


----- Original Message -----

Interesting=20 discussion. In the realm of jazz guitar, I've been
breaking = away from=20 cliches by - well, I don't know whether you'd call
it = "adopting" or=20 "abandoning" position playing. I have a to move all
over the = neck when=20 playing jazz tunes - if the root is D, I'll want to
play at the = 5th=20 fret (where the D bass is on string 5) or the 10th (D
bass on = string=20 6), more or less.

Now I'm trying to play through tunes = without=20 changing position - start
at the 8th fret and play scales and = arpeggios=20 that suit the underlying
chords, but without moving from that = fret as=20 the tune cycles through
all its changes and keys. Then, on the = next=20 chorus, do the same thing
at the 2nd fret, or in open position. = That=20 has certainly been
effective for expanding my vocabulary (and, = I feel=20 it's made it more
authentic-sounding). As I go through these = changes,=20 preferring
accuracy and coherent phrasing to speed, I find =  the=20  connection
between what I hear in my head and what comes = out to=20 be improving=20 = as
well.




--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North=20 Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
------=_NextPart_000_0394_01C8EF53.1F873DA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 27 06:06:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69D623BE86; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=nf3qIownBk/E6jJQpRwcNYNvwB93cS218tXktRjXvuLCxaiImCJ5G3a50ORM9fpl5/my3qA2v93yA8CulUVmBhUu+PmT+ELImrAR0kXOfNVIwECHRHBtOpMnySP3WHCi; Message-ID: <20080727010646.8kzwk80rkksssosc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:06:46 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you actually loop with the instrument you are most proficient on? (Re: What would loopers do without power?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: <-yFT4C.A.SiH.6BBjIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi! This thread has gone everywhere from which instruments we loop with to =20 how we deal with musical cliches and I've enjoyed following this thread. Not sure if I can add much to the many excellent comments -- here goes anywa= y: To answer the question: "Do I loop with the instrument on which I am =20 most proficient?" I really don't know. I loop with a theremin and =20 I've only been playing it for about 2 3/4 years. I am more =20 experienced on pipe organs and synthesizers -- however I've become =20 proficient on theremin. The theremin has become such a natural "fit" =20 for me that I feel as though I've played it longer than I have. As far as pipe organ looping -- that would pretty much be a "midnite =20 madness" kind of thing -- a fun thing to do in an empty church but =20 something I probably couldn't get away with on Sunday mornings. If I =20 ever attempt to loop a pipe organ, I'll share the results with you. Now, cliches are an interesting topic. There are a couple of ways =20 that I avoid them on keyboards: The primary method is that I play in a key with which I am least =20 comfortable. I will take a tune that is written in, say, F major and =20 modulate to a key such A-flat minor. The other thing I do is "broken field running" -- that is, I play each =20 note of a melody in different octaves (registers) -- this helps to =20 dissect a melody and find "stuff" in it that isn't cliched. On theremin it is pretty easy to avoid cliches there -- I just kind of =20 avoid campy 50s sci-fi style. (Although some would contend that it =20 ALL sounds that way!) But, to avoid cliches one must know them. Cliches are to be reveled =20 in, really -- kind of like hot fudge sundaes with whipped cream, nuts, =20 and cherries on top. (Yes, the cherries are ESSENTIAL -- they are =20 just as important as the triangular cuts and toothpicks in club =20 sandwiches. Yes... club sandwiches must be cut into triangles in order =20 to be TRUE club sandwiches -- and the toothpicks have to have those =20 little frilly things on them or else the sandwich is compromised. ok =20 ok -- forgive my off-topic rant :) ) Thus, I try not to "accidentally" fall into cliches. Rather, I decide =20 wholeheartedly when I'm going to play a "chestnut", and I go at it =20 with the kind of gusto that one reserves for consuming high-calorie =20 food. The following track is my arrangement of Londonderry Aire: cliched... =20 non-looped and unabashedly sentimental: http://kevinkissinger.com/downloads/music/LondonderryAire224.mp3 This post is, admittedly, shamelessly indulgent (I know). However, to =20 summarize my opinions here: . Play cliches with volition and revel in them once in a while . Muscle memory can lead to cliches or otherwise thoughtless playing. =20 Thus, to choose unfamiliar keys, tonalities, fingerings, and voicings =20 helps to defeat mere reflex. . To loop precisely requires some level of proficiency -- the needed =20 level depends on what one sets out to accomplish. One needs to =20 acquire proficiency on one's instrument and one's looping equipment. Well, thanks for reading. It is almost 1 am and I am pretty slap-happy. I'd make me a club sandwich now except that I don't have any toothpicks. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 27 06:34:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E2433BE87; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=bdJSsnNH2DGiHSkiP0SFHL8QdTvFuX+Z7leVmby1/zc=; b=E2MtIsElwcSVsrHj0T28K5W7F2WMu20mKsCGpBtw2g01jFKn9pXnPN15uShfgEXurW QXVPhYP/vO5AP7Fq+/tkso2/DW16L2EU9DW2RoA2QvuRrxL9lYvmnk5XtU0yoLbard9F opRBDlrwHAnVWHM3tYH7vgU8kkpz7j/Vcebos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=HVSTiaQxvl6jUoyZlFL+jUhwbk4KkJ3q/odRfHraoTISnGmvK7x78kqBn4b4A/Gorb xt4VRKQN/CSlwyHcq0ImvsCCVRam3y85v6eH7AZ0ce+Pmbo7Aqks0/kGaNajXjcZeuRs wr1RoUIXGlsf1aHxUcFfv5TANm8novuEtqzBI= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0807262334h2bc17dd0w1c51e6aa833f635d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:34:09 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP technical help needed.................Andy? In-Reply-To: <000801c8ef13$c53ebf60$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4271_15496794.1217140449447" References: <000801c8ef13$c53ebf60$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 50a4c823e437581f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:34:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4271_15496794.1217140449447 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I dint see any answers to this Rick, so i tried it out... it all worked fine for me. switching back and forth between sus and sub was np. Have you tried making 2 presets, one with sus and one with sub, but otherwise identical. maybe theres something up with the panel switches? (thats how you are changing param right? m.xx ps. videos burning as we speak... On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I"m vexed over the behaviour of my EDP and think I may not know some of > it's capabilities. > > Specifically, I have a preset (PRESET =0) > where INS = SUS. > > I have this specifically to use the loop length changing capability of > MULTIPLY = SUS (as controlled by INS = SUS). > > My problem is this. > > If I use this preset, then switch INS = SUB in the middle of my loop > (to substitute 8th slices in my loop); > change INS back to SUS to control my length of multiply, MULTIPLY won't > return to SUS anymore.. > > Am I doing something wrong, or is this just something the EDP won't do. > > Any help at all would be appreciated. > yours, Rick Walker > > Just to be completely accurate, here are all of my settings in this preset: > > PRESET 0 > > LOP/DLY = LOP > QUANTIZE = 8th > 8th/Cycle = 5 (I want to use INS = SUB to replace slices and conform > my loop to a 5/8 rhythm) > SYNC = OFF > THRESHOLD = 0 > REC MODE = TOG > OVERDUB = SUS (love this one) > ROUND = OFF > INS = SUS then switches to INS = SUB then switches back to INS > = SUS all in the same loop > MUTE = CNTRL > OVERFLOW = STP > CHANNEL = 1 > CNTRL SOURCE = NOT > SOURCE # = 36 > VOLUME CONTROL = 7 > FEEDBACK/CNTRL = 1 > MORE LOOPS = 1 > AUTO RECORD = OFF > SWITCH QUANT = OFF > LOOP TRIG = 84 (should this be OFF?) > VELOCITY = OFF > SAMPLER STYLE = RUN > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_4271_15496794.1217140449447 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I dint see any answers to this Rick, so i tried it out... it all worked fine for me. switching back and forth between sus and sub was np. Have you tried making 2 presets, one with sus and one with sub, but otherwise identical. maybe theres something up with the panel switches? (thats how you are changing param right?

m.xx

ps. videos burning as we speak...

On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
I"m vexed over the behaviour of my EDP and think I may not know some of it's capabilities.

Specifically,  I have a preset  (PRESET =0)
where INS = SUS.

I have this specifically to use the loop length changing capability of MULTIPLY = SUS (as controlled by INS = SUS).

My problem is this.

If I use this preset,   then switch INS = SUB   in the middle of my loop (to substitute 8th slices in my loop);
change INS back to SUS to control my length of multiply,   MULTIPLY won't return to SUS anymore..

Am I doing something wrong,  or is this just something the EDP won't do.

Any help at all would be appreciated.
yours,  Rick Walker

Just to be completely accurate, here are all of my settings in this preset:

PRESET 0

LOP/DLY =  LOP
QUANTIZE = 8th
8th/Cycle  =   5    (I want to use INS = SUB to replace slices and conform my loop to a 5/8 rhythm)
SYNC  =  OFF
THRESHOLD  = 0
REC MODE = TOG
OVERDUB  =  SUS  (love this one)
ROUND =  OFF
INS = SUS      then switches to    INS = SUB     then switches back to  INS = SUS   all in the same loop
MUTE = CNTRL
OVERFLOW = STP
CHANNEL = 1
CNTRL SOURCE = NOT
SOURCE # = 36
VOLUME CONTROL = 7
FEEDBACK/CNTRL  =  1
MORE LOOPS = 1
AUTO RECORD = OFF
SWITCH QUANT = OFF
LOOP TRIG = 84   (should this be OFF?)
VELOCITY = OFF
SAMPLER STYLE = RUN



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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 27 11:36:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C1083BE86; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=U51lnt/tY5vVVUwnAKsbaWZqHOpSr0zGqEAZBgwjJi+iRFE2wNNFavnZVzoGqIlWP+spziRYAM4eMzoADPfXu3H8s2stSFEqc3//c0kOlYt0T2gd8Q+FqBPLnp+hirm9Owr8xn3TPkj+d9v3PXEEG/rQQGFH7dMU3KPIhB1phCI= ; X-YMail-OSG: .eLqJNkVM1nbQIEhILVHGxqxN8uJpZbbE617i0AAkzyWAe2FUT3EnJJRInkU37zdn7GfNLWaWmNN09pGbvfGHgqBUwrP575xw5uJO23ZMdORR9n7I0vhTQcoWf0gDHE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-480671609 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Live Looping video/gig on thursday Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:35:56 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:36:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-480671609 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Word up guys I've updated my website with 12 videos of live looped stuff - 1 man vs a DL4. Lets us know what you think, i'm playing a with live visuals from www.blinkinlab.com on thursday in London - would be great to meet anyone from Looper Delight. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-2-480671609 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
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=
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www.mattstevensguitar.com




= --Apple-Mail-2-480671609-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 27 20:53:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5AA73BE85; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=+ZHH8hk0Mtp+w9486n/n/XTAc2YyatWm6FokMeNJnPA=; b=kqLaqc2SJZZnAo2FP+6umN+x20QvU1WRzqWwCBg2Iu+fMEW9D20LLHp/wlS4StMS6C c+t6eb1ESnIAg3QIuIkyqijuyO9l9kVoXa64Z/DycLA9oyVTYXOaXNdT4vAJJIeGXBpd YLEhNqO5tRZZEqdTKe/3Csk6F1TBbaPLsOe6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=B96w9ytK76NDfRQ/C7DPlFfoSf1N7XAG/ixUwkgb0QDwKnLZvApAAlv5wJNcnhm9/C lqNqLLBDpipXuW4QRyrr7FYvZRN/AfwWW+vxKNXiQxJlULxL7MTvBOYsbi4lhRvPSgHP w0aPa+X9O4/TV0oiP68WoHUryo1ffqxoLYGcs= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:53:49 -0400 From: "Zak Kramer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boss RC-2 tip...now a question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8378_13017409.1217192029555" Resent-Message-ID: <-KeB8B.A.wG.fBOjIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8378_13017409.1217192029555 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline in my eternal quest for a portable looper I like, I'm considering an RC-2 or RC-20XL; I actually have an RC-20. But I really want Undo! I'm also interested in the various phrase ending styles (immediate, end of phrase, fade) -- can the RC-2 do this? Any practical, functional or musical reasons, other than size, to prefer the RC-2? FWIW, the backing tracks & use of AUX input while playing aren't really of use/interest to me, at this point. Thanks, -- Zak Kramer Crazyquilt Arts & Music http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_8378_13017409.1217192029555 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
in my eternal quest for a portable looper I like, I'm considering an RC-2 or RC-20XL; I actually have an RC-20. But I really want Undo! I'm also interested in the various phrase ending styles (immediate, end of phrase, fade) -- can the RC-2 do this?

Any practical, functional or musical reasons, other than size, to prefer the RC-2? FWIW, the backing tracks & use of AUX input while playing aren't really of use/interest to me, at this point.

Thanks,

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Zak Kramer
Crazyquilt Arts & Music
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 02:25:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDF093BE89; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6Q/eBQo16Yj9x66zlQy/q2awmTmSGJhlj7I99jYdTkk=; b=xH9NJC0gsjQjGS9JZybfTzH4++J7x+RW0pUZhH/yu85Z8OKSJbH2Txt0c4IAiFGkBx X/i9rTS7Qs0aFbe9MSipXXqpFUNinN/MDv2nJua6eQguEDHy4KXhyrTDzq0qmsSF2iCf P8cc1pw01S27PRLqVFBQ57wuBrrUQkFBs31Yo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=K9p+/uyE6d7ec3rPv/KJnmwFgqVOH/1gcOWbTKHoXrYMA/HR809G53BMhWEITwp5zs fFisn0xDH9z2jKkPfU0N7CzKQy+2+MhR19KUOwAzqE8fJpoQv4w9G4cP0bYEBQWBjrrc QKue/IqQ7Oi1GFfuLruEr47dfHcJpPB8ppliA= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:25:35 -0400 From: "Zak Kramer" To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: Looping Strategies In-Reply-To: <863924.15905.qm@web110102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9289_29020199.1217211935382" References: <488767A8.9010509@Verizon.net> <863924.15905.qm@web110102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:25:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9289_29020199.1217211935382 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That's a very simplistic interpretation. Further, like any theory predicated on a linear progression from a 'primitive' to a 'sophisticated' state, it presumes that one stage is somehow aesthetically or philosophically or, (dare I say it) morally superior to the previous state(s). And that's a major fallacy. I have a tremendous amount of respect for musicians who can play their loopers as deftly (or moreso) than the instrument(s) they are looping. I'm certainly not one of them! But whether they use that to create rhythms for improvisation, sound design, or turntablism is, in the final balance, insignificant. As a listener, my only concern is: Does it move me? Technical facility may impress me initially, but rarely do I keep listening unless the technique is in service to the music, not vice versa. -- Zak Kramer Crazyquilt Arts & Music http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_9289_29020199.1217211935382 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
That's a very simplistic interpretation. Further, like any theory predicated on a linear progression from a 'primitive' to a 'sophisticated' state, it presumes that one stage is somehow aesthetically or philosophically or, (dare I say it) morally superior to the previous state(s). And that's a major fallacy.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for musicians who can play their loopers as deftly (or moreso) than the instrument(s) they are looping.  I'm certainly not one of them! But whether they use that to create rhythms for improvisation, sound design, or turntablism is, in the final balance, insignificant. As a listener, my only concern is: Does it move me? Technical facility may impress me initially, but rarely do I keep listening unless the technique is in service to the music, not vice versa.

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Zak Kramer
Crazyquilt Arts & Music
http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/
------=_Part_9289_29020199.1217211935382-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 07:40:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 271F83BE8B; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XU8Ugt2hu7MdZXnip8vGXnq7IzF9MOjTq4KKzbXpmAY=; b=hcumLAMACdNDdcqgkJWZer+fu0Cx+FiLhtxfy/T6CdhLuAWyeZhZa8sttsOOWaGAHf olNklD/OYHTk8jEzF3B12epdKV71IWSzGtXIcPjYtd8neLvcIvF/LtgRS0HVFm3r/1T3 /IHdg46TDA40pgC3t4Q4/8wDqpfnBTieXQ7Uk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ZYTE8JBEiIrQo6xoc+LkiKCCqu2KbXytpTuXFeceZtGhqH7tZvjZPgn3dfSU3tVTh0 cM7E5+Vy5hEsX2ANQEdGk0RHVY66ILWdRrv2Zpb7yPGUlucv7klA2+Ewi3P1l61QV9xZ UC1NbVGq7KcAKHwOf8Nst9LyflfQq6zTriO1c= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807280040r5f86108bo9a28fcaa16fb296d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:40:32 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Strategies In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <488767A8.9010509@Verizon.net> <863924.15905.qm@web110102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:40:32 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Zak Kramer wrote: > As a listener, my only concern is: Does it move me? Technical > facility may impress me initially, but rarely do I keep listening unless the > technique is in service to the music, not vice versa. I agree with Zak and would appreciate some more musically oriented posts in this thread. But mustn't it be understood that the technique always serves the music? I mean why would someone otherwise bore to make music with looping devices? I'd love to hear more how people use loopers to implement certain common musical goals. For example stuff like "making bass lines", "chord progressions" and "balancing harmony with disorder". One of the most difficult techniques in looping is to make the music evolve into orchestration and arrangement quickly enough. What techniques do people fall back on in order to make the music interesting listening right from the start? -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 09:52:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1472E3BE91; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: ebow for piano Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:52:39 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C8F0B0.D17FC0A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <-mjvd.A.wn.wbZjIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:52:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C8F0B0.D17FC0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, for a new piano and guitar album, i would like to use as many as 10 = ebows at the same time inside the piano ( resonating the strings ). the = new ebow plus is around 100$. is there another brand for ebow or another = tool for resonating piano string indefinitely that is under 100$?=20 thanks a lot and best regards. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C8F0B0.D17FC0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi,
 
for a new piano and guitar album, i would like to use as many as 10 = ebows=20 at the same time inside the piano ( resonating the strings ). =  the new=20 ebow plus is around 100$. is there another brand for ebow or another = tool for=20 resonating piano string indefinitely that is under 100$?
 
thanks a lot and best regards.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C8F0B0.D17FC0A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 11:21:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A05A3BE94; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:21:21 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <20080726154138.29940@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20080728112121.175180@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080726154138.29940@gmx.net> Subject: RE: Boss RC-2 tip -- AWESOME!! :-)) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+xBo0oBIixUr2BDlFifE/50nc+VE9mT2gXWhgNaN XutX2QykxOsXaIngSLTdUH8d+SgB023K9pDg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 4t/oOAYlZCEEJsdhnm0hw9N4IGhpZcYA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi RC-2 users (should there be any.. ;-) > WHEN YOU KEEP THE EXTERNAL STOP PEDAL PRESSED ON THE RC-2 FOR LONGER THAN > 2 SECONDS, IT WILL DELETE THE CURRENT LOOP. This feature will also work with the standard RC-2 _without_ an external pedal: When you want to stop a loop & step on the pedal twice, just don't release the pedal for >2sec at the end. The loop will be deleted. nice :-) Buzap -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 11:30:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A9C13BE95; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:30:42 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080728113042.175180@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Boss RC-2 tip...now a question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX188WqZhqRA85iYPEojn9i6bz3CuMkzcOUQi6iNrUX oOYeyGh472VXNtEZCt/bPTdm4YzltoonDZBg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: g8HmICcRTlI8KcF+jGlrju1OU2poZVmn Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Zak if portability/size is not an issue for you, you'd probably be better off with the RC-20XL. The way I work, the RC-20XL doesn't provide advantages to the RC-2. However, it might if you're interested in: - Designated Mic In - Ability to store loops (that you don't loose immediately) - Using foot pedals to switch phrases (next loop) or to reverse current loop - As far as I remember, the RC-2 also doesn't offer a fade-out If you're interested in UNDO feature: I use that feature extensively on the RC-50. However, on the RC-20XL&RC-2, this requires keeping the PLAY button pressed for >2seconds. So it is hard to time and to you have to plan a few beats in advance. Hope this helps Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 11:40:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EA003BE97; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:40:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:40:25 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Looping Strategies MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC--Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:40:27 +0000 (UTC) > Per wrote: > I'd love to hear more how people use loopers to > implement certain common musical goals. For example stuff like "making > bass lines", "chord progressions" and "balancing harmony with > disorder". One of the most difficult techniques in looping is to make > the music evolve into orchestration and arrangement quickly enough. > What techniques do people fall back on in order to make the music > interesting listening right from the start? Per, good question. I'm often struggling with the mid/end section when do= ing improv's. Lack of contrast, no climax, structure or arrangement probl= ems...that kind of issues. On the other hand, my sounds are OK, my intro'= s too but I have to fall back too often using technical tricks and effect= s like fade in/out, analog delays, half speed, reverse etc....because it'= s easy. Something like "if it's getting boring" we press some pedals to f= orce a change. Yes, that can lead to a new passage in your performance bu= t it does not always work. Worse, sometimes you end up with a mess and yo= u don't know what to do next :) I usually than decide to end the song usi= ng a fade out and start with a new one. Problem solved but it would be be= tter if I had a kind plan or structure in my mind before you start the pe= rformance. A trick which does help is trying to add something interesting= in your song every 1 minute...a new gimmick, catchy pattern, a kind of c= horus etc. But I often have no idea how long I'm playing already and I si= mply forget these things :) So I need to think more about structure and c= ome up with a plan for let's a 10-15 min Ambient improvisation. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 11:52:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFAF43BE88; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:52:20 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <00a801c8ed70$0d682bf0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Message-ID: <20080728115220.175200@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00a801c8ed70$0d682bf0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Subject: Re: looper and pitch shifter To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/CJzhZY97CY8yRFdnTvzfwf+KmQ/t6wnt/plqYNd FaBdgqm2P5aU6i71I0Dp2aHPHphwENnEizkA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: o/bHDzgja2AoIs0tzHUyVvE6OWhhagcY Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi Erdem yes, the Electro-Harmonix 2880 is the only stand-alone looper that I'm aware of that can do this, indeed. Watch out for the price, however. They seem to differ widely (should be able to find it at ca. 400$+ in USA). You might want to take your midi foot pedal with you, since the footpedal costs extra. Buzap -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 13:52:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69B193BE92; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=JxmMSFA+NVSjYDqWIphPXOtOEseapcbrxkLnfPlujOI=; b=HkumVU+FtlwraUhCsMPUmMEgW1FLI+YZ3H3u8ICliBdNzDGuXZo+/GfrBRLc5cmrMN CUHvcp5jsj/iBArwsAi15IQVJXnBuT763Y5Gk0GQMZz/0YetdSoeIZql8YhRftG4BeEh dKfXypVHE5371mkt9HgTX9LWRyMExIQvIzi60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=hG6/pWII26+D83FSXjFapEH2sSIxMe+1RFReSUIfqN5vRm+iH3p72tAQstXLaK30oF uCSCllo8QCHEhemHO0iwMS9dHe8rKwRKjmO1MkcLm3mLml2s0FeLd6T6zM9GDsvvjrVr ejDBkzCEuAdXFu/Ry0kJk9U+688/XCJ5rAsvM= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:52:36 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebow for piano In-Reply-To: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16698_12713856.1217253156703" References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:52:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16698_12713856.1217253156703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline One of my dream instruments was a piano with an eBow on each string and velocity sensitivity mapped to the eBow strength, but it would be horribly expensive. As far as your request, I've never heard of an eBow knockoff, so I guess Behringer's asleep at the wheel on this one. I also suspect that a 9V powered eBow lacks the strength to make piano strings respond. Also recall that pianos use multiple strings for the same note in many cases and that alignment of the eBow field and the string is crucial to making the effect work. TH On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi, > > for a new piano and guitar album, i would like to use as many as 10 ebows > at the same time inside the piano ( resonating the strings ). the new ebow > plus is around 100$. is there another brand for ebow or another tool for > resonating piano string indefinitely that is under 100$? > > thanks a lot and best regards. > > ------=_Part_16698_12713856.1217253156703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
One of my dream instruments was a piano with an eBow on each string and velocity sensitivity mapped to the eBow strength, but it would be horribly expensive.

As far as your request, I've never heard of an eBow knockoff, so I guess Behringer's asleep at the wheel on this one.  I also suspect that a 9V powered eBow lacks the strength to make piano strings respond.  Also recall that pianos use multiple strings for the same note in many cases and that alignment of the eBow field and the string is crucial to making the effect work.

TH

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:
hi,
 
for a new piano and guitar album, i would like to use as many as 10 ebows at the same time inside the piano ( resonating the strings ).  the new ebow plus is around 100$. is there another brand for ebow or another tool for resonating piano string indefinitely that is under 100$?
 
thanks a lot and best regards.
 

------=_Part_16698_12713856.1217253156703-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 15:14:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E7293BEA9; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:14:52 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Subject: Re: ebow for piano To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19YaOIuO45YtJYOeDCeM69ps7muqU8JxRfI5lWvUD xRVSx2FExK0tdXJMCThaCmKbE3MSLtUjq9uw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: DYv4e0UDODB6SsN6iGVMrvY9Ji9SWhK3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Hi Erdem not meaning to question your approach, but a question: I've seen Esbjoern Svensson (died much too young... what a pity...) live using effects on the original piano sound with several mics. Now, the concert piano also has a pretty long sustain (esp. compared to a guitar). So I was wondering if the original sustained piano sound + several mics + good delay/reverb settings couldn't already deliver an extremely long tone? Another aspect is (I believe Travis indicated that) is also this: Compared to the guitar, a piano string is much longer and there is a total tension of ca. 20 tons (!) on the strings! So, my gut feeling is that you'd need a pretty strong magnetic field for this. Alternatively, I could imagine some mechanical solution, i.e. little wheels turning and scratching the strings etc. Let us know what worked out for you, I'm curious! ;-) Buzap -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 15:29:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26E5C3BEA4; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=4gkBlFT8ZU8vceXiZxIWzVME85wzLPryOCWu8L+h5Bc=; b=aa1od3qg5+nCCgv/gRbHRtMDG/rBMrA9EvOTnkd5+iwQEyczhj/ge5vMtzWcIAkEvK MhxvQoEceLtjPOFrzbENEjScW8PsFQx+smCAQ4+oY14ei4lEg1AYhWP9kWGqL7ydeo5O a6/9niPJf9XKcX3UsRt0i5AzIK0cbJ3CwNRkA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type :message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=FQ6/LUIyhag91YEiYp8QCtCrWNU0TdKCdrVC7Nlc0zVhUjhRXLYHwbZ+8Ynf7T91XB o+D6jqs6Rgx/4EwoMqlxFFFgV/nQNgMdbdoPeXtoJMzqh63FcO89ebQraLY6rFtiV8Ct vmFyDGdZlPK4xAeGtjM3eJtwD4ou6yxOJ2HGg= In-Reply-To: <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: ebow for piano Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:29:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <3OMwhB.A.MQG.fXejIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:29:35 +0000 (UTC) On Jul 28, 2008, at 8:14 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Now, the concert piano also has a pretty long sustain (esp. > compared to a guitar). So I was wondering if the original sustained > piano sound + several mics + good delay/reverb settings couldn't > already deliver an extremely long tone? There is of course a normal bow - analog :-) - used by Stephen Scott and the Bowed Piano Ensemble. Very nice album: http://www.amazon.com/Vikings-of-the-Sunrise/dp/B000000R48 regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 15:55:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C1BC3BEA2; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:55:08 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=B1NSabIST+IuzWQnV7S7ymL4uVkFwmA8oQXgDqVvdiNHtXJG/RrB/SCH85IRADZ6KHB0tHPHgc3vuB4UgBzp408h+14vdeVegkeKeC8JR4+XZ6qfbRj+PiNKxTs/L0NW; Message-ID: <20080728104822.6votcge5pccs084s@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:48:22 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Strategies References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: <3Wzxj.A.A1H.dvejIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:55:09 +0000 (UTC) > > Per wrote: > One of the most difficult techniques in looping is to make > the music evolve into orchestration and arrangement quickly enough. > > What techniques do people fall back on in order to make the music > interesting listening right from the start? > I organize my loops into four* categories: 1) Very Short Loop (VSL): less than one measure long 2) Short Loop: lasts from one to four measures (< 10 seconds) 3) Long loop: greater than four measures (> 10 seconds) 4) Manual loops: done without hardware -- the musician simply repeats =20 a passage *note: simple loops with no processing Very Short loop . advantages can be used to set up a tempo -- helps to keep things in sync can be layered quickly easy to create syncopation by sending to multiple VSLs of =20 different lengths . disadvantages static harmony and texture quickly becomes monotonous Short Loop . advantages can be layered relatively quickly imitative textures (i.e., rounds and canons) work well possible to build a simple harmonic progression (up to four chord =20 progressions possible. . disadvantages harder to layer the parts in sync without the use of a metronome, =20 click, or underlying rhythm texture is percieved as static hard to move forward to another section of music Long Loop . advantages allows complex harmonic progressions allows complex and varied textures not perceived as repetition (if the loop is long enough) . disadvantages difficult/impossible to sync without the use of metronome, =20 clicks, or some underlying rhythm to build up layers is time-consuming difficulties with loop time-slippage (depends on =20 hardware/software and syncing capability) Manual Loop . advantages all the flexibility of a live performer -- the ability to =20 modulate, change tempo, etc. dramatic -- if the performer "loops" mechanically the listener =20 may percieve a loop-machine rather than the performer thus, when the =20 performer breaks out of the loop it can be quite jarring/dramatic . disadvantages in the absence of any other instruments or tracks, this can start =20 to sound like excercises rather than "music". Currently, my finished looped music has utilized Very Short Loops, =20 Short loops, and manual loops. I am working on music that uses Long =20 Loops now but haven't performed any of it yet. Since my work requires synchronized musical lines, I tend to send to a =20 VSL to establish a tempo. While listening to the VSL, I can then send =20 to Short Loops. Often I'll do both -- sending to a VSL (delay) with say, 50% feedback =20 and, in turn, laying this down onto a Short Loop. Again, to play on =20 the tails of the delay keeps things in sync. One could build a long =20 loop in the same manner -- the main issue is sync*. (*note: I like to loop music that is quite rigidly in sync -- for =20 music that is sustained the sync may not be as critical a factor). I tend to favor music that immerses the listener without a long =20 introduction. The VSLs and Short Loops are effective because one can =20 build up a texture quickly. To create music that holds the listeners' attention is always a =20 challenge -- whether the music is looped or not. To buid up a loop is pretty easy for me -- the tough thing is to move =20 forward from one loop to the next -- once the "machine is running" it =20 tends to anchor a piece of music, for better or for worse. Sometimes =20 I do a kind of "cross fade" -- I fade out an already-playing loop =20 while I build up the next loop. Often, I use manual loops as a way to =20 move from one section of music to the next, too. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 16:31:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18EC73BEA6; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=h/ysD0KW1P9wYi7sIQBPrQbLNuLgS1nXGTldTB8+gWA1iDintrmJ6M4A2LnKtHAn2QPOz9lth/Dgdx1sSx8QmzAQ0BxzvnmIhtcmJu1J0es3YZXZjM2y0wX4LmM9noho; Message-ID: <20080728113135.fer41jr8asos0gw4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:31:35 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Erdem in EM References: <009d01c8ef38$5c216a80$14643f80$@com> In-Reply-To: <009d01c8ef38$5c216a80$14643f80$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Fantastic news! Congratulations, Erdem! -- Kevin Quoting Qua Veda : > > Hi, > > I just received the August copy of EM , and was thrilled to see a feature > article about Erdem Helacioglu. I really like his album "Altered > Realities" which is also a subject of the article. > > Congratulations, Erdem !! > > > > -Qua > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 16:40:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3C9D3BEBE; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:40:36 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mZuPRRue-CLY5RC81SEA:9 a=PWXCd_FlT7rCKCYXE4gA:9 a=0MGorYs5Ybgaq_dHfxWInDF4uhwA:4 a=qd0b2T3g1E0A:10 a=6BEIpMDiMxIA:10 a=SXmmN1XjQcFeTjD_ElMA:9 a=ZNXBgg9D6INvZi4BvFQA:9 a=wHLfQEV5WCxTtTh6YjIA:7 a=U5eNOJ4bwpvibOrlFt9okylGQtMA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-585026294 Message-Id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: ebow for piano Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:35:11 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-585026294 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Sculpture in Logic does this beautifully. $499. On Jul 28, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > One of my dream instruments was a piano with an eBow on each string > and velocity sensitivity mapped to the eBow strength, but it would > be horribly expensive. > > As far as your request, I've never heard of an eBow knockoff, so I > guess Behringer's asleep at the wheel on this one. I also suspect > that a 9V powered eBow lacks the strength to make piano strings > respond. Also recall that pianos use multiple strings for the same > note in many cases and that alignment of the eBow field and the > string is crucial to making the effect work. > > TH > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu > wrote: > hi, > > for a new piano and guitar album, i would like to use as many as 10 > ebows at the same time inside the piano ( resonating the > strings ). the new ebow plus is around 100$. is there another > brand for ebow or another tool for resonating piano string > indefinitely that is under 100$? > > thanks a lot and best regards. > > --Apple-Mail-1-585026294 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sculpture in Logic does this beautifully. $499.=A0
On Jul = 28, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote:

One of my dream instruments was a piano with an eBow on each = string and velocity sensitivity mapped to the eBow strength, but it = would be horribly expensive.

As far as your request, I've never = heard of an eBow knockoff, so I guess Behringer's asleep at the wheel on = this one.=A0 I also suspect that a 9V powered eBow lacks the strength to = make piano strings respond.=A0 Also recall that pianos use multiple = strings for the same note in many cases and that alignment of the eBow = field and the string is crucial to making the effect work.
=
TH

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:52 = AM, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> = wrote:
hi,
=A0
for = a new piano and guitar album, i would like to use as many as 10 ebows at = the same time inside the piano ( resonating the=A0strings ). =A0the new = ebow plus is around 100$. is there another brand for ebow or another = tool for resonating piano string indefinitely that is under 100$?
=
=A0
thanks a lot and best regards.
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= --Apple-Mail-1-585026294-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 17:12:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00E8A3BEC2; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1920 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:12:56 UTC Message-ID: <84C50A19C899466B849A10C12416B002@WilliamsonPC> From: "Rick Williamson" To: References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> In-Reply-To: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Subject: Re: ebow for piano Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:29:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0083_01C8F0A5.29BCAC80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18000 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:12:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C8F0A5.29BCAC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >There is of course a normal bow - analog :-) - used by Stephen Scott =20 >and the Bowed Piano Ensemble Here's a video about the ensemble. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMTCaTBHNbO0 Also featured on NPR back in February. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3D18666248 Rosined nylon fishing line bowing the strings.=20 Looks to me much easier than trying to use an e-bow on the piano. Rick Williamson ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C8F0A5.29BCAC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
>There is of course a normal bow - analog :-) - used by = Stephen=20 Scott 
>and the Bowed Piano Ensemble
 
Here's a video about the=20 ensemble.
http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DMTCaTBHNbO0
 
Also featured on NPR back in = February.
= http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3D18666248
 
Rosined nylon fishing line bowing the=20 strings. 
Looks to me much easier than trying to = use an e-bow=20 on the piano.
 
Rick = Williamson
------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C8F0A5.29BCAC80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 17:40:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5701B3BEC0; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 50474964/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.192.205 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.192.205 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0BADahjUhPTsDN/2dsb2JhbAAIiw+INJsxg08 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,266,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="50474964" Message-ID: <488E04A9.7060602@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:40:57 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP technical help needed.................Andy? References: <000801c8ef13$c53ebf60$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <000801c8ef13$c53ebf60$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:40:39 +0000 (UTC) hi Rick, Just back from weekend in Suffolk. (so sorry 'bout the wait) Rick Walker wrote: > I"m vexed over the behaviour of my EDP and think I may not know some of > it's capabilities. > > Specifically, I have a preset (PRESET =0) > where INS = SUS. > > I have this specifically to use the loop length changing capability of > MULTIPLY = SUS (as controlled by INS = SUS). > > My problem is this. > > If I use this preset, then switch INS = SUB in the middle of my loop > (to substitute 8th slices in my loop); > change INS back to SUS to control my length of multiply, MULTIPLY > won't return to SUS anymore.. > > Am I doing something wrong, could be a bug, I'll check it out >or is this just something the EDP won't do. it *should* do it.....but if it doesn't I'm afraid there's no cure. :-) but there's a really neat workaround. If you do the SUS Mult by Direct Midi you can leave InsertMode=SUB that's a SUSUnRoundMult, which is Note-On/Off 64 > > Any help at all would be appreciated. > yours, Rick Walker > > Just to be completely accurate, here are all of my settings in this preset: > > PRESET 0 > > LOP/DLY = LOP > QUANTIZE = 8th > 8th/Cycle = 5 (I want to use INS = SUB to replace slices and > conform my loop to a 5/8 rhythm) > SYNC = OFF > THRESHOLD = 0 > REC MODE = TOG > OVERDUB = SUS (love this one) > ROUND = OFF > INS = SUS then switches to INS = SUB then switches back to > INS = SUS all in the same loop > MUTE = CNTRL > OVERFLOW = STP > CHANNEL = 1 > CNTRL SOURCE = NOT > SOURCE # = 36 > VOLUME CONTROL = 7 > FEEDBACK/CNTRL = 1 > MORE LOOPS = 1 :-) all the best tricks are with MORELOOPS=2 > AUTO RECORD = OFF > SWITCH QUANT = OFF > LOOP TRIG = 84 (should this be OFF?) that should be ok > VELOCITY = OFF > SAMPLER STYLE = RUN andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 17:42:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E7313BEBA; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=JOwMY+71cJLhv423FUpTbgIPhdxYMT45TOYZFuN1wDQBdOQZNEMaysxFIiW+YYml3XQ+NTQo8jPpAv7odbCNGtKLY2GJAqQMJUh3dAxWfOny79t7YOYLJ13Jm+xK3a51; Message-ID: <20080728124205.dz0ux4jm88g8wsss@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:42:05 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: LoopersDelight Subject: Bucket Brigade via VST delays MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Last week the "Bucket Brigade" topic came up and I worked out a way to =20 accomplish in Cubase SX. Cubase SX includes some VST delays -- very useful because sync is =20 assured and they go up to ten seconds. In Cubase, VSTs can be inserted into: Input strips, FX strips, and =20 (so-called) Group Channel strips. (this next paragraph is Cubase SX specific) All the strips have SENDS. In Input strip can send to an FX channel, =20 Group channel, or output buss. An FX channel can only send to the =20 output busses. However, the Group Channel can send to downline Group =20 Channels, FX Channels, and the output busses. A "downline Group =20 channel" is a Group channel that is the most recently created. Thus, =20 a group channel can send to another group channel, provided the other =20 group channel was created after the sending channel. (Quirky, huh?) I am using multiple instances of the "Delay Modeler" VST plugin -- =20 each instance of "Delay Modeler" occurs in its own Group channel =20 track. The Group Channel strip's main output is assigned to an output =20 buss (a virtual hardware output, that is). The send goes to the next =20 "Delay Modeler". Here is a sample diagram that shows the concept: . Input . | . |-- (send) ---> Delay (A) . | | . | |-- (send) ---> Delay (B) . | | | . | | |-- (send) ---> Delay (C) . | | | | . | | | | -- (send) =20 ---> (etc) . | | | | . V V V V . Center Right Right Surround Left Surround... . Thus, with only a 10-second delay plugin, I can create a bucket =20 brigade of unlimited channels (limited only by memory, CPU, =20 PCI/Firewire capacity, and hardware). Now, how about feedback? After all, we can't SEND a Group or FX =20 channel back to an input. Fortunately, I can accomplish the trick via =20 the software that comes with the RME800 -- without tying up bandwidth. =20 The RME800's driver allows you to route an output buss to its =20 corresponding input strip. For instance, if I have an unused hardware =20 channel (say, the SPDIF channel), I can the SPDIF output directly to =20 the SPDIF input. In Cubase I would, in turn, create an input channel =20 strip and assign the SPDIF input to it. That channel, then, would =20 SEND to Delay (A) -- and would create feedback. The nice thing: if =20 you utilize "bandwidth limiting" on the RME, you can use the unused =20 channels for this. All this happens in the driver and never actually =20 goes out to the RME hardware. For example, you could use an unused =20 ADAT channel for this. As cumbersome as this writeup is, it only takes a few minutes to set =20 all this up in Cubase. The same concept could be used to create "Long Loops" in Cubase -- by =20 cascading the delays I can get around the 10 second limitation on loop =20 length. Why do I continue to use Cubase SX? The main reason is that I compose =20 everything -- that is, I write out every note. Since CUBASE SX has =20 built-in scoring, I can switch between the piano roll editor (my =20 editor of choice) to the score editor (so I can read the notes and =20 memorize/perform the music). I have this "vision" of melodies that echo around the listeners and =20 with this "bucket brigade" configuration, I can make that happen. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 17:44:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24E133BED5; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 50476549/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.192.205 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.192.205 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsAAEyijUhPTsDN/2dsb2JhbAAIiw+jb4NP X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,266,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="50476549" Message-ID: <488E059C.3030309@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:45:00 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP technical help needed.................Andy? References: <000801c8ef13$c53ebf60$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <9ab0c76f0807262334h2bc17dd0w1c51e6aa833f635d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807262334h2bc17dd0w1c51e6aa833f635d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:44:40 +0000 (UTC) I was away on holiday. thanks for covering. It sounds like some weird bug, but I'll give it a thorough check in a day or so. andy mark francombe wrote: > I dint see any answers to this Rick, so i tried it out... it all worked > fine for me. switching back and forth between sus and sub was np. Have > you tried making 2 presets, one with sus and one with sub, but otherwise > identical. maybe theres something up with the panel switches? (thats how > you are changing param right? > > m.xx > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 17:53:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF7DB3BED3; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=SlrCYOMo/chQsBk6BekJeAoDc11thS0LKcqdBFmlRHk=; b=Fx9n3IFgQVK/w9XuKbaVhoCN4DkkrlONg6LmHWYqb0VEMsUHw4CzR+KcSIDRDqTdyd Ttvbw/+o5zcnjvlVceL4DaTyWUA7LZhRKnaK9e/AjsgBMfwYOG9VwRA5Dquex7csn4FU h+8xIGppaCmMFjshENL0+H9M1EAkB0k7+tlCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=PmfQdTSgxBV4ynM/YN34o6/bZ75n4vJcTf3fNB/9ThPKeIB66m8ia3+T2WRxX/sS1s 93Pz+CJ2f/GMDT30cJISyoElOf7yFus/+ZNCpah1GIm8PsV2pU97+xFCF9bEdyakc165 FBe15j+5qs6hx3CBBRfFG6O4jiyuZUlLd6nTA= Message-Id: <2BB05D9D-03DC-42D8-8128-DEEFF277C461@gmail.com> From: David Hayes To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5A347) Subject: Re: Looping Strategies Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:49:28 -0700 References: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5A347) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Regarding ending songs and other texturing... Having multiple echopleaxes, one can fade between them. Actually, if they go through volume pedals that are right next to one another on the flood, you can use your foot at an angle to fade ether way, dependin upon which diagonal your foot is at. I used to have two for stereo operation and a third mono so I could do things like take the "initial" loop(s) out of the mix, switch just the bass line etc etc.the ins/outs could all be swithched around. All the routing and switching was done with tiny hard-wired high quality RDL mixers and swithchers. So, instead of a fade out you can mix-between and morph like a dj. But it can be difficult. There are tricks... Let's say the tone and even beat of something you built the ground work for earlier on EDP 1 but took in a different direction on EDP 2 (or even if they have no common element) you can do a fast fade while making a slight-of-hand distractionary noise, like turning the guitar up, sliding the pick across the fretboard from high to low and punctuating it with a crack on the free standing cymbol with the head of your guitar stock. As long as it starts in rhythmic and tonal parity withthe currently playing loop the listener's brain will preceive a mix to the new one. Obviously, that's but one technique for transitioning between certain types of musical loops that don't neccessarally match. It won't work for everything and even variations would get old. But there are others, and one can plan it in from the beginning for even more options. On Jul 28, 2008, at 4:40 AM, "Sjaak" wrote: >> Per wrote: >> I'd love to hear more how people use loopers to >> implement certain common musical goals. For example stuff like >> "making >> bass lines", "chord progressions" and "balancing harmony with >> disorder". One of the most difficult techniques in looping is to make >> the music evolve into orchestration and arrangement quickly enough. >> What techniques do people fall back on in order to make the music >> interesting listening right from the start? > > Per, good question. I'm often struggling with the mid/end section > when doing improv's. Lack of contrast, no climax, structure or > arrangement problems...that kind of issues. On the other hand, my > sounds are OK, my intro's too but I have to fall back too often > using technical tricks and effects like fade in/out, analog delays, > half speed, reverse etc....because it's easy. Something like "if > it's getting boring" we press some pedals to force a change. Yes, > that can lead to a new passage in your performance but it does not > always work. Worse, sometimes you end up with a mess and you don't > know what to do next :) I usually than decide to end the song using > a fade out and start with a new one. Problem solved but it would be > better if I had a kind plan or structure in my mind before you start > the performance. A trick which does help is trying to add something > interesting in your song every 1 minute...a new gimmick, catchy > pattern, a kind of chorus etc. But I often have no idea how long I'm > playing already and I simply forget these things :) So I need to > think more about structure and come up with a plan for let's a 10-15 > min Ambient improvisation. > > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 19:33:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33C2B3BEF8; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=HxtXz++RLvHokPieSVNDGA2k9KCjMGcEyGUrb7ijuh0=; b=TmhmFcxqeSbo9QiQwadLMu79Mx7XwFN/xITHRhM16Fy4qTf4kh0tznSF0aKDo4ff3I Ts+FHfRTfiqInHY6X6saRVrKfAgFeaQSGfwwrG6Ad/YVVw2Z1mp27k+59kjI9vhQwbsT hxkphRf2+KHd5h6UtApWy3/TmO8b/Qs7BMxug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=h48YQT0M8z1XDcZom0KceuugOW9HYMS5+YJEfCu3ZdL3A4/grsamNrHskaAvUEyYni 6pZtT1EY5k5rb7T/e40EKcF5vf6Znjrba8aJ0284VTXPmkwzBfjy9gooCb1PQXGuS9Me CE5rmdr9SOIIGz5ho7egrMZNsF6PbhDeTTlmE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:33:10 +0200 From: "andy soto" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Alternative to YouTube In-Reply-To: <64b81a780807231013t7b77a241y6fbf397c5646ff9a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15961_12750090.1217273590584" References: <20080722154557.634043BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> <62658.208.162.64.63.1216755212.squirrel@waste.org> <1c3a4db00807221336i1473ba0ai91d977c65416020f@mail.gmail.com> <005b01c8ec73$afeb0b70$0fc12250$@com> <64b81a780807231013t7b77a241y6fbf397c5646ff9a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5uvQWC.A.GvC.37hjIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:33:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15961_12750090.1217273590584 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thank you very much!! On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Todd Pafford wrote: > I'll throw in a recommendation for Vimeo also. They'll let you upload > beautiful 'HD' videos. I don't know about all the upload details, but > Vimeo has become my favorite place to watch videos. > > T. > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Tony K wrote: > > For those of you who upload videos, check out www.viddler.com They have > a > > much higher max filesize (500 meg I believe). They have some neat > features > > like being able to comment or tag at a specific spot in a video, and > > recording right from your webcam. > > > > I must admit that the president (Rob) once interned at our company and > they > > had their original offices right next to us, but I have no financial > > interest in the company. I forgot about the site for over a year until > > someone on the ambient list posted a video to viddler. > > > > Anyway, worth checking out. > > > > Tony > > > > > > ------=_Part_15961_12750090.1217273590584 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
thank you very much!!

 

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Todd Pafford <calenlas@gmail.com> wrote:
I'll throw in a recommendation for Vimeo also.  They'll let you upload
beautiful 'HD' videos.  I don't know about all the upload details, but
Vimeo has become my favorite place to watch videos.

T.


On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
> For those of you who upload videos, check out www.viddler.com  They have a
> much higher max filesize (500 meg I believe).  They have some neat features
> like being able to comment or tag at a specific spot in a video, and
> recording right from your webcam.
>
> I must admit that the president (Rob) once interned at our company and they
> had their original offices right next to us, but I have no financial
> interest in the company.  I forgot about the site for over a year until
> someone on the ambient list posted a video to viddler.
>
> Anyway, worth checking out.
>
> Tony
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------=_Part_15961_12750090.1217273590584-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 28 19:40:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55FAC3BECC; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=sAXd6qIn+kldPERpTTHoACuIZak6XX1+ePH38EZ6Ye0=; b=fMINylRAR5TVsAV7UeGRlcoS35tw/EshFODA/F3GDr7dzr5DmKwAimVQUU4PsmGraY WUzPqVLEp1hYCKAfVV5Naa+LkkP/9FSLNFtgRlBst9sv3vtkWBg7vPgwsXWK7Ikw4ljP zo1OZrwvFl2YbqnQKmwuqetQerCYez6xrfIyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=W57/E/Nv3dqZVv15hVyVsur87Bzj3wiBGvpiLWL56nvhquiyjQWRqUJQfm5X+tqn5B cHrcrT7lI/tEhu0Ejcd841KUscY9MjiO1EQPXX9Z8Nfh2CoEKwoex6WKHn++vXFM0JC0 JSGjSRkLbJxe2w180qdSD6q0SmAbF/y0kB8KE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:40:07 -0400 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looping gigspam: Buffalo NY: Friday (9/1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16566_7193863.1217274007803" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:40:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16566_7193863.1217274007803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just a plug for a gig I have this Friday in Buffalo, NY, USA. We're a 3-piece (guitar/bass/drums) and I go in and out of looping guitar on an EDP. I think that stylistically I'm somewhere in the middle of playing music that is truly loop-based on the one hand, in the EDP-as-instrument vein, and other end, with the loops serving as more of an effect or adding layers to the overall sound. So, not looping purism, but not verse-chorus-verse/ghostie musicians either. And actually, it's improv, so we don't really know what it will sound like on any given night, but you can listen to some tracks at: myspace.com/pfafffloodandgorman We go on at midnight. The other band plays after us and is non-looping. The venue is a dive bar with a pretty good set-up for bands, called Broadway Joes, and I'm guessing that the cover is $5. Hope some of you loopers can make it, Eben ------=_Part_16566_7193863.1217274007803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Just a plug for a gig I have this Friday in Buffalo, NY, USA.

We're a 3-piece (guitar/bass/drums) and I go in and out of looping guitar on an EDP. I think that stylistically I'm somewhere in the middle of playing music that is truly loop-based on the one hand, in the EDP-as-instrument vein, and other end, with the loops serving as more of an effect or adding layers to the overall sound. So, not looping purism, but not verse-chorus-verse/ghostie musicians either. And actually, it's improv, so we don't really know what it will sound like on any given night, but you can listen to some tracks at:

myspace.com/pfafffloodandgorman

We go on at midnight. The other band plays after us and is non-looping.

The venue is a dive bar with a pretty good set-up for bands, called Broadway Joes, and I'm guessing that the cover is $5. 

Hope some of you loopers can make it,

Eben


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------=_Part_16566_7193863.1217274007803-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 06:56:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9CF03BED0; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <488EBF04.90609@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:56:04 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? References: <813529.28505.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <07d401c8ebb8$546871e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <07d401c8ebb8$546871e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung schrieb: > These sort of questions make us think who we really are as musicians and > what defines us. Are you defined by the technology and looping gear? Can > you stand on your own and be yourself with just an acoustic instrument > and feel gratified as an artist? Just seed questions, no assumptions > here. For me, as much as I rant and rave about the electronics, the > fact is that I started on the acoustic nylon string, and I could go back > to it at any time if appropriate, and feel at home and at ease with myself. Funnily, I play my electric bass always unplugged. But I also don't play it for an audience, but for myself... These sort of questions are good to ask, but on the other hand don't make too much sense. If living in the moment, the moment will determine what I will do. Sitting alone in a car without radio usually will lead me to sing. But all this doesn't qualify me as a musician. I qualify as a musician/artist only in a context with others. Either there is space for that role or there isn't. If there is, I guess I'd find a way to fill it. But how, is nothing to think about now. Electric power is available as I write this, and as I write I don't make music, which shows, there is maybe something worse than having no power, having no space/time to make music... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 09:45:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A8623BED6; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003c01c8f15f$c5bd3e00$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <00a801c8ed70$0d682bf0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728115220.175200@gmx.net> Subject: Re: looper and pitch shifter Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:44:57 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01C8F178.E8456290" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:45:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C8F178.E8456290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, the ehx is good but still big and bulky. i would like to have a small = looper pedal that can do these. that brings us to the question of=20 - what is the smallest, lightest looper on the market? i occasionally loop my playing and do not depend on it. so a small unit = would work for my need perfectly. thanks and best regards. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Buzap Buzap=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:52 PM Subject: Re: looper and pitch shifter Hi Erdem yes, the Electro-Harmonix 2880 is the only stand-alone looper that I'm = aware of that can do this, indeed. Watch out for the price, however. They seem to differ widely (should = be able to find it at ca. 400$+ in USA). You might want to take your = midi foot pedal with you, since the footpedal costs extra. Buzap --=20 Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen!=20 Ideal f=FCr Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C8F178.E8456290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi,
 
the ehx is good but still big and bulky. i would like to have a = small=20 looper pedal that can do these. that brings us to the question of
 
- what is the smallest, lightest looper on the market?
 
i occasionally loop my playing and do not depend on it. so a small = unit=20 would work for my need perfectly.
 
thanks and best regards.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Buzap Buzap =
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 = 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: looper and pitch=20 shifter

Hi Erdem

yes, the Electro-Harmonix 2880 is the = only=20 stand-alone looper that I'm aware of that can do this, = indeed.
Watch out=20 for the price, however. They seem to differ widely (should be able to = find it=20 at ca. 400$+ in USA). You might want to take your midi foot pedal with = you,=20 since the footpedal costs extra.

Buzap

--
Der GMX=20 SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen!
Ideal = f=FCr Modem=20 und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/sm= artsurfer
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C8F178.E8456290-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 09:54:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 051BB3BED9; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> Subject: Re: ebow for piano Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:54:10 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01C8F17A.31F12310" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <-Ouw-B.A.URC.IjujIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:54:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C8F17A.31F12310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i have actually recorded a few tracks with ebows on the strings inside = the piano. it works very well with the mid 3 octave range. besides the ebow i also pluck the strings inside, put lots of different = metals on the strings etc. sustained piano sound with very log reverb = setting would not work for me unfortunately. in any case, will do more recordings with ebows in august and then share = my experiences. one more thing : what are the different material you use, attach, scrape = etc on your instruments? is there any specific material that you would = recommend for me to use on the guitar and piano? old californian license = plates work very well inside the piano by the way ( bill walker knows = what i mean :) best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Buzap Buzap=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:14 PM Subject: Re: ebow for piano Hi Erdem not meaning to question your approach, but a question: I've seen Esbjoern Svensson (died much too young... what a pity...) = live using effects on the original piano sound with several mics. Now, the concert piano also has a pretty long sustain (esp. compared = to a guitar). So I was wondering if the original sustained piano sound + = several mics + good delay/reverb settings couldn't already deliver an = extremely long tone? Another aspect is (I believe Travis indicated that) is also this: Compared to the guitar, a piano string is much longer and there is a = total tension of ca. 20 tons (!) on the strings! So, my gut feeling is = that you'd need a pretty strong magnetic field for this. Alternatively, I could imagine some mechanical solution, i.e. little = wheels turning and scratching the strings etc. Let us know what worked out for you, I'm curious! ;-) Buzap --=20 Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten=20 Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C8F17A.31F12310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi,
 
i have actually recorded a few tracks with ebows on the strings = inside the=20 piano. it works very well with the mid 3 octave range.
 
besides the ebow i also pluck the strings inside, put lots of = different=20 metals on the strings etc. sustained piano sound with very log reverb = setting=20 would not work for me unfortunately.
 
in any case, will do more recordings with ebows in august = and then=20 share my experiences.
 
one more thing : what are the different material you use, attach, = scrape=20 etc on your instruments? is there any specific material that you would = recommend=20 for me to use on the guitar and piano? old californian license plates = work very=20 well inside the piano by the way ( bill walker knows what i mean = :)
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Buzap Buzap =
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 = 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: ebow for = piano

Hi Erdem

not meaning to question your approach, = but a=20 question:
I've seen Esbjoern Svensson (died much too young... what = a=20 pity...) live using effects on the original piano sound with several=20 mics.
Now, the concert piano also has a pretty long sustain (esp. = compared=20 to a guitar). So I was wondering if the original sustained piano sound = +=20 several mics + good delay/reverb settings couldn't already deliver an=20 extremely long tone?

Another aspect is (I believe Travis = indicated=20 that) is also this:
Compared to the guitar, a piano string is much = longer=20 and there is a total tension of ca. 20 tons (!) on the strings! So, my = gut=20 feeling is that you'd need a pretty strong magnetic field for=20 this.

Alternatively, I could imagine some mechanical solution, = i.e.=20 little wheels turning and scratching the strings etc.

Let us = know what=20 worked out for you, I'm curious! ;-)

Buzap

--
Ist = Ihr=20 Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten
Browser-Versionen = downloaden:=20 http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browse= r
------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C8F17A.31F12310-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 11:26:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB8FE3BED8; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:26:41 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <003c01c8f15f$c5bd3e00$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Message-ID: <20080729112641.149950@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00a801c8ed70$0d682bf0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728115220.175200@gmx.net> <003c01c8f15f$c5bd3e00$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Subject: Re: looper and pitch shifter To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18mUOQsxAkmtDo9iRmQg+xGKtD8XJRnAxz0JTrjvt jcgyw3zD6AMA+JXCxIUEjm8SzMYlKGY3be0A== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: JbrED9tda2AoVs0tzHUy6Ik6OWhhageD Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Hello Erdem > - what is the smallest, lightest looper on the market? The Boss RC-2 is I guess as small as it gets (just one pedal). I love to take it when I'm travelling (i.e. along with a Traveler Guitar or Mic+Impedance Converter). Btw, with a piano, you might also want to experiment with paper. Can make a nice muffled/buzzing sound. All the best Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 12:31:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B170B3BEDF; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 50837405/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.207.54 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.207.54 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlYBAOypjkhPTs82/2dsb2JhbAAIixilYoNN X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,272,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="50837405" Message-ID: <488F0D87.9040809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:31:03 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebow for piano OT References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> In-Reply-To: <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-or98.A.YBF.I2wjIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:31:04 +0000 (UTC) hi Erdem, One really nice piano sound is to take a felt hammer, salvaged from a broken down piano, and rub it along the length of the string. This gets the string vibrating longitudinally, which is especially nice if the sus pedal is down. Just about any bit of wood rested on the strings can be nice too (as used by Keith Tippet) For more ideas, check out John Cage Prepared Piano (full details in score) or you might like this http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/ Then there's the "andy butler special technique" which involves placing a thumb or finger on the string at one end, and removing it at just the right speed as the note is played. With a bit of practice, it sounds like the note is swelling in. that's enough from me, bet there's plenty of other great suggestions on list. andy butler Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > > one more thing : what are the different material you use, attach, scrape > etc on your instruments? is there any specific material that you would > recommend for me to use on the guitar and piano? old californian license > plates work very well inside the piano by the way ( bill walker knows > what i mean :) > > best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 13:15:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D65C3BEDD; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <488F17F5.2030007@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:15:33 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What would loopers do without power? References: <813529.28505.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <07d401c8ebb8$546871e0$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <488EBF04.90609@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: <488EBF04.90609@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <66Cn-B.A._zF.2fxjIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Last night Jim and I did our first looperless show together. I did a few solo composed pieces, Jim did a solo tune and a very lovely oud improv, and together we improvised three pieces just with our acoustic guitars - the venue is specifically unplugged without a PA. Though a very loud fan/AC made it kind of a crappy room for acoustic music (nuances were lost and I felt like I had to play at top volume all the time just to be heard), it was a great challenge, and a good feeling to know that we could pull it off. For those of you who improvise live, I'd recommend as a great exercise trying to make a go of an unplugged tune (or at least without the looper) now and then. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> These sort of questions make us think who we really are as musicians >> and what defines us. Are you defined by the technology and looping >> gear? Can you stand on your own and be yourself with just an acoustic >> instrument and feel gratified as an artist? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 13:25:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D31C53BEE0; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=JuaA+Ql2PgFOCFSXkada7VGWRcDb9RvYfdJKyG9GSN4jlnjR/OQPZWg+/0vatgdt5XB5KleKZmzsvACuLkbUylWpO4YIG/5xe8NyoeoWGa7dXg+H/8Dx5TgIKdbS06Ae; Message-ID: <20080729082514.0gfg4m35icssw48g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:25:14 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebow for piano References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> In-Reply-To: <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Erdem Helvacioglu : > hi, > > i have actually recorded a few tracks with ebows on the strings > inside the piano. it works very well with the mid 3 octave range. > > besides the ebow i also pluck the strings inside, put lots of > different metals on the strings etc. sustained piano sound with very > log reverb setting would not work for me unfortunately. > > in any case, will do more recordings with ebows in august and then > share my experiences. > Erdem, Since you have multiple ebows -- what happens if you use two (or more) ebows on the same string? -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 15:26:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFF863BEDB; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3642 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:26:54 UTC Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:25:43 -0400 From: Scott Duncan Subject: Re: ebow for piano In-reply-to: <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48C599A1-3551-45FE-9C09-25A4DF668F9D@webworkz.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-663658876 X-Priority: 3 References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:26:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-663658876 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jul 29, 2008, at 5:54 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > besides the ebow i also pluck the strings inside, put lots of > different metals on the strings etc. sustained piano sound with > very log reverb setting would not work for me unfortunately. > > what are the different material you use, attach, scrape etc on > your instruments? is there any specific material that you would > recommend for me to use on the guitar and piano? old californian > license plates work very well inside the piano by the way ( bill > walker knows what i mean :) > > best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Your questions led me to think.....what of having a kitten play inside the (open) piano? Not very reasonable/ sensible I suppose, but you could or might get: plucking and scraping, and some damping of course; all uncontrolled/ unexpected/ unpredictable. It might curl up and do nothing -- blocking off a set of strings.... But with a live video feed to a screen, an audience might enjoy the experiment visually too. Use whatever loopers you prefer...... Then...... you add the mouse...... meowBow...... Cheers -- Scott D. in WNC --Apple-Mail-1-663658876 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Jul 29, 2008, at 5:54 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu = wrote:

besides the ebow i also pluck = the strings inside, put lots of different metals on the strings etc. = sustained piano sound with very log reverb setting would not work for me = unfortunately.
=A0
=A0what are the different material you = use, attach, scrape etc on your instruments? is there any specific = material that you would recommend for me to use on the guitar and piano? = old californian license plates work very well inside the piano by the = way ( bill walker knows what i mean = :)
=A0
best.
=A0
Erdem = Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
<= a = href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu">www.myspace.com/erdemhelv= acioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = *

Your questions led me to = think.....what of having a kitten play inside the (open) piano? Not very = reasonable/ sensible I suppose, but you could or might get: =A0plucking = and scraping, and some damping of course; all uncontrolled/ unexpected/ = unpredictable. It might curl up and do nothing -- blocking off a set of = strings....

But with a live video feed = to a screen, an audience might enjoy the experiment visually too. Use = whatever loopers you prefer......

Then...... you add the = mouse......

meowBow......


Cheers --

Scott D. =A0 in = WNC
= --Apple-Mail-1-663658876-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 15:39:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 344743BEF0; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Nmh0eciytnziGl26ngMJI1iVCmnq2+lei52eOveByxE=; b=B4QR9Vx86Hb4+3BE20ZKFzwppoMMxuQFmdNrg+wN9in4mMePumZiYx1wknZrWNJZkq /D6O+AL3wq2SNIhKFGMznq+J5WbGJLCAB2yUmDhA3QVm6ja2eXDSpB63QV+V8a44xvWi b81AeKZH0Y321aRg/Nlqril+qGp1JuMANQlw8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=nswDCdebucYaOGNAP6Vi7pj9XoDQ8FoOoRbVuLaFGg/DoI/sHh0MVIxlKA803b0OCG F05mwX0XPedvYhuNsMdPHE+sDOrxc424ixC6e4Lj8uUyePEGyhlDgRISgb9OMCfgi3bA g+eZc4Rde921Z4zd1e+pyHO/0hlPaNrMl/QEE= Message-ID: <37f071c00807290839s7775e9d0i808349053e84039a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:39:21 -0700 From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebow for piano In-Reply-To: <48C599A1-3551-45FE-9C09-25A4DF668F9D@webworkz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_45124_22465689.1217345961590" References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <48C599A1-3551-45FE-9C09-25A4DF668F9D@webworkz.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:39:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_45124_22465689.1217345961590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > > Your questions led me to think.....what of having a kitten play inside the > (open) piano? Not very reasonable/ sensible I suppose, but you could or > might get: plucking and scraping, and some damping of course; all > uncontrolled/ unexpected/ unpredictable. It might curl up and do nothing -- > blocking off a set of strings.... > > But with a live video feed to a screen, an audience might enjoy the > experiment visually too. Use whatever loopers you prefer...... > > I don't imagine the kitten would enjoy it very much. Kevin Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_Part_45124_22465689.1217345961590 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Your questions led me to think.....what of having a kitten play inside the (open) piano? Not very reasonable/ sensible I suppose, but you could or might get:  plucking and scraping, and some damping of course; all uncontrolled/ unexpected/ unpredictable. It might curl up and do nothing -- blocking off a set of strings....

But with a live video feed to a screen, an audience might enjoy the experiment visually too. Use whatever loopers you prefer......


I don't imagine the kitten would enjoy it very much.

Kevin

Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org
------=_Part_45124_22465689.1217345961590-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 15:55:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2A393BEAE; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:55:24 -0400 From: Scott Duncan Subject: Re: ebow for piano In-reply-to: <37f071c00807290839s7775e9d0i808349053e84039a@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-669039237 References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <48C599A1-3551-45FE-9C09-25A4DF668F9D@webworkz.com> <37f071c00807290839s7775e9d0i808349053e84039a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1omeBC.A.1nD.x1zjIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:55:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-669039237 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed from Scott Duncan: > > Your questions led me to think.....what of having a kitten play > inside the (open) piano? Not very reasonable/ sensible I suppose, > but you could or might get: plucking and scraping, and some > damping of course; all uncontrolled/ unexpected/ unpredictable. It > might curl up and do nothing -- blocking off a set of strings.... > > But with a live video feed to a screen, an audience might enjoy the > experiment visually too. Use whatever loopers you prefer...... Then...... you add the mouse...... meowBow...... > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > I don't imagine the kitten would enjoy it very much. Well, that's a good point/ thought/ perspective to consider, Kevin. BUT this sort of thing doesn't necessarily mean any harm to a kitten / young (small) cat. Not intentioned at all of course, but for a curious, well-adjusted feline, it might just be another day of play....and musical to boot... Now the mouse would most likely not find this amusing at all, so I do now withdraw the idea. Scott --Apple-Mail-11-669039237 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

from Scott Duncan:

Your questions led = me to think.....what of having a kitten play inside the (open) piano? = Not very reasonable/ sensible I suppose, but you could or might get: = =A0plucking and scraping, and some damping of course; all uncontrolled/ = unexpected/ unpredictable. It might curl up and do nothing -- blocking = off a set of strings....

But with a live video = feed to a screen, an audience might enjoy the experiment visually too. = Use whatever loopers you = prefer......
=A0=A0 =A0Then...... you add the = mouse......

=A0=A0 =A0 meowBow......


On = Jul 29, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando = wrote:


I don't imagine the kitten would enjoy it very = much.



Well, that's a good point/ = thought/ perspective to consider, Kevin. BUT this sort of thing doesn't = necessarily mean any harm to a kitten / young (small) cat. Not = intentioned at all of course, but for a curious, well-adjusted feline, = it might just be another day of play....and musical to = boot...

Now = the mouse would most likely not find this amusing at all, so I do now = withdraw the idea.

Scott
= --Apple-Mail-11-669039237-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 17:36:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31E763BEF6; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1827 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:36:57 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.2 X-EN-IMPSID: vt6J1Z00902goRm0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:06:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: delia derbyshire video In-Reply-To: <9CF85ADB-CC85-4882-931A-90E6ECF38BD5@zoekeating.com> References: <5DABC957-E57B-44A4-A330-F64E90E74E17@zoekeating.com> <9CF85ADB-CC85-4882-931A-90E6ECF38BD5@zoekeating.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20080729173657.BB6003BEE8@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:36:57 +0000 (UTC) More about Delia: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/07/29/archivist-responds-yes-virginia-delia-derbyshire-really-was-that-awesome/ At 2008.07.20 11:59 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: >and listen to this, from 1969!!!! > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7512490.stm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 18:49:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEF9C3BEEE; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <033801c8f1ab$e28f8fa0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD><20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080729082514.0gfg4m35icssw48g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Subject: Re: ebow for piano Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:49:51 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0335_01C8F1C5.07AD7A40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:49:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0335_01C8F1C5.07AD7A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have not tried 2 ebows on a string yet. will do so after buying a few = new ebows from ny. will let you know and will send some recordings to = the list too. best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: Re: ebow for piano Quoting Erdem Helvacioglu : > hi, > > i have actually recorded a few tracks with ebows on the strings =20 > inside the piano. it works very well with the mid 3 octave range. > > besides the ebow i also pluck the strings inside, put lots of =20 > different metals on the strings etc. sustained piano sound with very = =20 > log reverb setting would not work for me unfortunately. > > in any case, will do more recordings with ebows in august and then = > share my experiences. > Erdem, Since you have multiple ebows -- what happens if you use two (or more) = =20 ebows on the same string? -- Kevin ------=_NextPart_000_0335_01C8F1C5.07AD7A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i have not tried 2 ebows on a string yet. will do so after buying a = few new=20 ebows from ny. will let you know and will send some recordings to the = list=20 too.
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
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Quoting Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net>:

> = hi,
>
> i have actually recorded a few tracks with ebows = on the=20 strings  
> inside the piano. it works very well with = the mid=20 3 octave range.
>
> besides the ebow i also pluck the = strings=20 inside, put lots of  
> different metals on the = strings etc.=20 sustained piano sound with very 
>  log reverb = setting would=20 not work for me unfortunately.
>
> in any case, will do = more=20 recordings with ebows in august and then  
> share my = experiences.
>

Erdem,

Since you have multiple = ebows --=20 what happens if you use two (or more) 
ebows on the same=20 string?

-- Kevin
------=_NextPart_000_0335_01C8F1C5.07AD7A40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 18:52:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E07513BEF4; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Q3FNAv7JaYehg+2KJY7rPC0kFrGVFg8SGO4mw+FRcCA=; b=leuVDHwWFCxS9n/j6AZ3PxWJsx3xjDKyqS0K8YNmcMGC7bNkpF3OF2zyQ6jdDjR+jz W94iM0xJUMZPe1KymCseea3Dy/TNp7sbfXTivJbRLDic4UlxGy4tAh1N5QGZZqR3usHD Re2Wp6pnsiF18cL0FmfDy2vjIc5/Pl8a62gN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=x9YuPfkCunAZwv0V0aHfnOft75L0AATT1mf0my5qes98Xd+oxAdHd2jwaJetxrarWo D9rXgZSJGH471iR5PgTdlo40+U7yuRlgQ7t5ky7lQaj/OlclQ8nP6paI9fppyamRepsZ 66VlSmfL+XUHLWbUk4b+1qcaF+fZB7eaksq7s= Message-ID: <37f071c00807291152q1fa25f9ehaa1afcdfd2a19570@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:52:33 -0700 From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebow for piano In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48866_18256606.1217357553141" References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <48C599A1-3551-45FE-9C09-25A4DF668F9D@webworkz.com> <37f071c00807290839s7775e9d0i808349053e84039a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:52:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_48866_18256606.1217357553141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > I don't imagine the kitten would enjoy it very much. > > > > > Well, that's a good point/ thought/ perspective to consider, Kevin. BUT > this sort of thing doesn't necessarily mean any harm to a kitten / young > (small) cat. Not intentioned at all of course, but for a curious, > well-adjusted feline, it might just be another day of play....and musical to > boot... > > Now the mouse would most likely not find this amusing at all, so I do now > withdraw the idea. > Look, everyone knows that weasels are the only real creature that one should let loose inside a piano if you want the real crazy sounds. Line up some weasels than we find the piano to house them. Kevin Trying to recover from a humorless morning -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_Part_48866_18256606.1217357553141 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


I don't imagine the kitten would enjoy it very much.



Well, that's a good point/ thought/ perspective to consider, Kevin. BUT this sort of thing doesn't necessarily mean any harm to a kitten / young (small) cat. Not intentioned at all of course, but for a curious, well-adjusted feline, it might just be another day of play....and musical to boot...

Now the mouse would most likely not find this amusing at all, so I do now withdraw the idea.

Look, everyone knows that weasels are the only real creature that one should let loose inside a piano if you want the real crazy sounds.  Line up some weasels than we find the piano to house them.

Kevin

Trying to recover from a humorless morning

--

Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org
------=_Part_48866_18256606.1217357553141-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 19:48:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AA813BEF9; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: ebow for piano Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:48:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C8F18A.23493400" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00807291152q1fa25f9ehaa1afcdfd2a19570@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcjxrEoaNewul31ZRuy0eTeuGd4DzQABcRmA Message-Id: <20080729194823.C8C403BEEC@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-Gl56C.A.aCF.HQ3jIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C8F18A.23493400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Simple solution: get a laser pointer and (assuming your hands will be busy) hold it in your mouth, directing the beam onto the area of the strings you'd like the kitten to perform on. Most kittens I've seen enjoy chasing and pouncing on the ball of red light. Be careful to keep from pointing it into the eyes, though. In this manner, you can 'conduct' the creature a little, sending him/her to different registers and different ends of the strings. With practice, I am certain that trills and repeated rhythms can be accomplished. (Make sure whoever supplied the venue's piano never finds out about it.) Keeping the 'players' out of the hammers might be a challenge. Since kittens' personalities vary so much, it would ostensibly be possible to have a squad of 'meowsicians' with the more lethargic assigned to the soundscapes, largos and andantes, while the young A-types would get allegros, prestos and contemporary rhythms. Donate a portion of your proceeds to local animal recovery and shelters. Cut me in for a piece, too. dave I don't imagine the kitten would enjoy it very much. Well, that's a good point/ thought/ perspective to consider, Kevin. BUT this sort of thing doesn't necessarily mean any harm to a kitten / young (small) cat. Not intentioned at all of course, but for a curious, well-adjusted feline, it might just be another day of play....and musical to boot... Now the mouse would most likely not find this amusing at all, so I do now withdraw the idea. Look, everyone knows that weasels are the only real creature that one should let loose inside a piano if you want the real crazy sounds. Line up some weasels than we find the piano to house them. Kevin Trying to recover from a humorless morning -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C8F18A.23493400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Simple solution:  get a = laser pointer and (assuming your hands will be busy) hold it in your mouth, directing = the beam onto the area of the strings you’d like the kitten to perform = on.  Most kittens I’ve seen enjoy chasing and pouncing on the ball of = red light.  Be careful to keep from pointing it into the eyes, though. =  

 

In this manner, you can = ‘conduct’ the creature a little, sending him/her to different registers and = different ends of the strings.  With practice, I am certain that trills and = repeated rhythms can be accomplished.  (Make sure whoever supplied the = venue’s piano never finds out about it.)  Keeping the ‘players’ = out of the hammers might be a challenge.

 

Since kittens’ = personalities vary so much, it would ostensibly be possible to have a squad of = ‘meowsicians’ with the more lethargic assigned to the soundscapes, largos and = andantes, while the young A-types would get allegros, prestos and contemporary = rhythms.

 

Donate a portion of your proceeds = to local animal recovery and shelters…  Cut me in for a piece, = too.

 

dave

 

 

 


I don't imagine the kitten would enjoy it very = much.

 

 

 

Well, that's a good point/ thought/ perspective to consider, = Kevin. BUT this sort of thing doesn't necessarily mean any harm to a kitten / young (small) cat. Not intentioned at all of course, but for a curious, = well-adjusted feline, it might just be another day of play....and musical to = boot...

 

Now the mouse would most likely not find this amusing at all, so = I do now withdraw the idea.


Look, everyone knows that weasels are the only real creature that one = should let loose inside a piano if you want the real crazy sounds.  Line = up some weasels than we find the piano to house them.

Kevin

Trying to recover from a humorless morning

--

Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all = trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org=

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Just like I use for my harps,(nylon string). WIND!!! Just use sounboard transducers(I use radio Shack 273-064a) and use high velocity blowers to get your strings going. I set my harps out in the wind, record them in stereo,(2 at a time into a 4 track) then pile up those 4 track tapes,(using stereo cue output), and stack them up on a multi tack machine. Talk about ETHEREAL!!! Wel,,,, spacey antway. rig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 29 23:45:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 093BC3BF10; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <488F0D87.9040809@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: ebow for piano OT Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:45:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <4tNkaB.A.HHH.au6jIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Okay, I have to ask you all since we're talking avant-garde/modified piano here, amongst some folks with serious music ed here, there was a piece that our elementary school music teacher (4th-5th grade) played on LP for us - around Halloween - called "The Banshee". It was cool and scary to my 9-10 year old ears. Anyone remember this? I haven't found it since. Anyone? From: "andy butler" > One really nice piano sound is to take a felt hammer, salvaged from a > broken down piano, > and rub it along the length of the string. > This gets the string vibrating longitudinally, which is especially nice if > the sus pedal is down. > > Just about any bit of wood rested on the strings can be nice too > (as used by Keith Tippet) > > For more ideas, check out John Cage Prepared Piano (full details in score) > > > or you might like this > http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/ > > > Then there's the "andy butler special technique" which involves placing a > thumb or > finger on the string at one end, and removing it at just the right speed > as the note > is played. With a bit of practice, it sounds like the note is swelling in. > > that's enough from me, > bet there's plenty of other great suggestions on list. > > andy butler > > > > > Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > >> one more thing : what are the different material you use, attach, scrape >> etc on your instruments? is there any specific material that you would >> recommend for me to use on the guitar and piano? old californian license >> plates work very well inside the piano by the way ( bill walker knows >> what i mean :) >> best. >> Erdem Helvacioglu >> www.erdemhelvacioglu.com >> www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu >> >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 01:33:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DA523BF15; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1840 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:33:54 UTC Message-ID: <488FBBA7.7080100@biink.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:53:59 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebow for piano OT References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <488F0D87.9040809@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Stephen Goodman wrote: > Okay, I have to ask you all since we're talking avant-garde/modified > piano here, amongst some folks with serious music ed here, there was a > piece that our elementary school music teacher (4th-5th grade) played > on LP for us - around Halloween - called "The Banshee". It was cool > and scary to my 9-10 year old ears. > > Anyone remember this? I haven't found it since. Anyone? Henry Cowell. -- * David Beardsley * http://biink.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 02:47:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36E713BF17; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1217386061; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=3ZN+9rKBb9qMGAuSKEUM1jz6rYw=; b=OVYQ/PCqS4qmZDCs2kQm9S+83oYxJPRI0tUazfTdHLot5NBjw9ERTuNPU/WDeWrI yuQnwUt7L/GWLrJ0hsaX5je57xNYUZH0Nw/TVHNrWfcYF36/jZQOYlsJBvxbVZ9/; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q1L98AZgAAAA:8 a=2X2V8b18xNZBSctIbh0A:9 a=9agcsFV1JcbfGfh_0bMf7gBBdVoA:4 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002601c8f1f7$01faf820$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <488F0D87.9040809@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: ebow for piano OT Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:47:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Stephen Goodman wrote: > Okay, I have to ask you all since we're talking avant-garde/modified piano > here, amongst some folks with serious music ed here, there was a piece > that our elementary school music teacher (4th-5th grade) played on LP for > us - around Halloween - called "The Banshee". It was cool and scary to my > 9-10 year old ears. > > Anyone remember this? I haven't found it since. Anyone? Here ya go Stephen... http://rs41.rapidshare.com/files/100367027/Cowell__H._-_New_music.rar Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 03:42:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1BA03BF01; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <488FE32F.8080501@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:42:39 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebow for piano OT References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <488F0D87.9040809@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:42:41 +0000 (UTC) I remember exactly the same piece, for me it was third grade. awesome! Soon after I heard that, my teacher brought in a Minimoog for us to fool around with for a couple of class periods. It makes me sad that music has been cut at so many schools, I always remembered these experiences. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Okay, I have to ask you all since we're talking avant-garde/modified > piano here, amongst some folks with serious music ed here, there was a > piece that our elementary school music teacher (4th-5th grade) played > on LP for us - around Halloween - called "The Banshee". It was cool > and scary to my 9-10 year old ears. > > Anyone remember this? I haven't found it since. Anyone? > > From: "andy butler" >> One really nice piano sound is to take a felt hammer, salvaged from a >> broken down piano, >> and rub it along the length of the string. >> This gets the string vibrating longitudinally, which is especially >> nice if the sus pedal is down. >> >> Just about any bit of wood rested on the strings can be nice too >> (as used by Keith Tippet) >> >> For more ideas, check out John Cage Prepared Piano (full details in >> score) >> >> >> or you might like this >> http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/ >> >> >> Then there's the "andy butler special technique" which involves >> placing a thumb or >> finger on the string at one end, and removing it at just the right >> speed as the note >> is played. With a bit of practice, it sounds like the note is >> swelling in. >> >> that's enough from me, >> bet there's plenty of other great suggestions on list. >> >> andy butler >> >> >> >> >> Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: >> >>> one more thing : what are the different material you use, attach, >>> scrape etc on your instruments? is there any specific material that >>> you would recommend for me to use on the guitar and piano? old >>> californian license plates work very well inside the piano by the >>> way ( bill walker knows what i mean :) >>> best. >>> Erdem Helvacioglu >>> www.erdemhelvacioglu.com >>> www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu >>> >>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> >> >> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 03:42:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 050DD3BF12; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <488FE339.2000205@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:42:49 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ebow for piano OT References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <488F0D87.9040809@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:42:57 +0000 (UTC) I remember exactly the same piece, for me it was third grade. awesome! Soon after I heard that, my teacher brought in a Minimoog for us to fool around with for a couple of class periods. It makes me sad that music has been cut at so many schools, I always remembered these experiences. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Okay, I have to ask you all since we're talking avant-garde/modified > piano here, amongst some folks with serious music ed here, there was a > piece that our elementary school music teacher (4th-5th grade) played > on LP for us - around Halloween - called "The Banshee". It was cool > and scary to my 9-10 year old ears. > > Anyone remember this? I haven't found it since. Anyone? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 10:15:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5774C3BE8D; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <00b701c8f097$ac5bbb80$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <20080728151452.139370@gmx.net> <006c01c8f161$0cc57cd0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <488F0D87.9040809@tiscali.co.uk> <488FE32F.8080501@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: ebow for piano OT Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:15:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Thanks fellas! Rar file downloading now. Hah, but for me third/fourth grade was 1964-5... Luckily for us in Ridgewood NJ we had fantastic access to the arts, thanks to people who worked with the NY Phil etc. living in that bedroom town. Robert Moog came to our junior high to introduce us to the sythesizer, the year after "Switched On Bach" came out. We had the honor of HOROWITZ and BORGE playing for us as well. Such memories last a lifetime. From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 04:42 AM Subject: Re: ebow for piano OT >I remember exactly the same piece, for me it was third grade. awesome! Soon >after I heard that, my teacher brought in a Minimoog for us to fool around >with for a couple of class periods. > > It makes me sad that music has been cut at so many schools, I always > remembered these experiences. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> Okay, I have to ask you all since we're talking avant-garde/modified >> piano here, amongst some folks with serious music ed here, there was a >> piece that our elementary school music teacher (4th-5th grade) played on >> LP for us - around Halloween - called "The Banshee". It was cool and >> scary to my 9-10 year old ears. >> >> Anyone remember this? I haven't found it since. Anyone? >> >> From: "andy butler" >>> One really nice piano sound is to take a felt hammer, salvaged from a >>> broken down piano, >>> and rub it along the length of the string. >>> This gets the string vibrating longitudinally, which is especially nice >>> if the sus pedal is down. >>> >>> Just about any bit of wood rested on the strings can be nice too >>> (as used by Keith Tippet) >>> >>> For more ideas, check out John Cage Prepared Piano (full details in >>> score) >>> >>> >>> or you might like this >>> http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/ >>> >>> >>> Then there's the "andy butler special technique" which involves placing >>> a thumb or >>> finger on the string at one end, and removing it at just the right speed >>> as the note >>> is played. With a bit of practice, it sounds like the note is swelling >>> in. >>> >>> that's enough from me, >>> bet there's plenty of other great suggestions on list. >>> >>> andy butler >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: >>> >>>> one more thing : what are the different material you use, attach, >>>> scrape etc on your instruments? is there any specific material that you >>>> would recommend for me to use on the guitar and piano? old californian >>>> license plates work very well inside the piano by the way ( bill walker >>>> knows what i mean :) >>>> best. >>>> Erdem Helvacioglu >>>> www.erdemhelvacioglu.com >>>> www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu >>>> >>>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 11:50:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C80FE3BF16; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00f701c8f23a$62ba4a60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: lexicon mpx1 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:49:54 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C8F253.877F66A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:50:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C8F253.877F66A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i have just seen that amazon sells lexicon mpx1 for 500$. this unit = nearly 10 years old. i think lexicon wants to get rid of them all in a = short time. do you think this machine is a good investment? i am not = sure if the effects are good compared to the technology nowadays. best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C8F253.877F66A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C8F253.877F66A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 12:23:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD32A3BF0F; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=7CcdJdTbFSQd9Q0TADeIc7lV0+SF8sOM2QNVwbTfVlQ=; b=LxlR56fTSDU68B+KL47W1rmqyew0cV6VcmZyDO6GfLf43CR0wKgTUI6qsOj03q+tD9 wuPHBGVr84Xz3ggJzrKxAtHo74tsDjSJv3a/NplJcp84QDFHHrMpUzD2rZg6oTy+7nbn sDRqoRA0vkxeBGSzLfE7CRQxQL/I1tppIc62k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer :x-mimeole; b=sEpx5efU2HOeI4dJ5tB20K1GPH2p4AtpfUyFfIclGzvCWjFPbkI9doREcKRVUxM5mm PhUQmuzIgkQjK/fP+vN4DmjMuqm/rKqoC+ZIDcziJvg3r9zOkyt44q20LX3qsw6iclXW lNY8xS0G7gfM7WDfh64eoZLCToSzJiTN/nRDc= Message-ID: From: "projektGmail" To: References: <00f701c8f23a$62ba4a60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Subject: Re: lexicon mpx1 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:23:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C8F24F.C927DC30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Dit is een meerdelig bericht in de MIME-indeling. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C8F24F.C927DC30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm using a lexicon MPX550 and I like this machine a lot! The reverbs are very good and open. The MPX1 has more possibilities so I think its a good investment. Simon From: Erdem Helvacioglu=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:49 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: lexicon mpx1=20 hi, i have just seen that amazon sells lexicon mpx1 for 500$. this unit = nearly 10 years old. i think lexicon wants to get rid of them all in a = short time. do you think this machine is a good investment? i am not = sure if the effects are good compared to the technology nowadays. best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C8F24F.C927DC30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I'm using a lexicon MPX550 and I like = this machine=20 a lot!
The reverbs are very good and = open.
 
The MPX1 has more possibilities so = I think its a good investment.
 
Simon

Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:49 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Subject: lexicon mpx1

hi,
 
i have just seen that amazon sells lexicon mpx1 for 500$. this unit = nearly=20 10 years old. i think lexicon wants to get rid of them all in a short = time. do=20 you think this machine is a good investment? i am not sure if the = effects are=20 good compared to the technology nowadays.
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C8F24F.C927DC30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 13:30:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85B283BF19; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=wYgcLWEaWJ0INmXPGXWz+RDP8UU/ne0LCB1XacGIyrc=; b=pkRoY9feT/VCDqmsKssft2jYcksSbT3UpbIydQAnHQxKB4QsSl1gGyxOpyJdgqpbYK szi8ZCeUsJzjgBmm+u19RGZmJqCW9kf7fNbIQJYs4MKcvftSOHJgxi93uVS5/HPWbT3H iLmyYbu63jiJoHiapykrx3LwFas5AR6R4xfa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qOwvQ7z3JxztxZnO4YFl+PuPCC9zGWOZI0S5XfC4hFZgMqCAwxPSxo5dqhAuoRbmnC ZZ3T2OmA4zeZslQ+gRjzqScD3LJsFhBSS4SzYNUP474FgSyEEVVtPAH983HvxccfRbz+ nvzkxnosWKK9NdNQ2PdUMr8vmR0j9Ay9xro5g= Message-ID: <4759e5740807300630k3b05415eic6dc8cc4b30e454b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:30:26 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: lexicon mpx1 In-Reply-To: <00f701c8f23a$62ba4a60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_37609_629635.1217424626104" References: <00f701c8f23a$62ba4a60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:30:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_37609_629635.1217424626104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm ready to get rid of my mpx1 G2 guitar processor and could bring it to you on Sunday if you'd like, Erdem. I like it a lot. T. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi, > > i have just seen that amazon sells lexicon mpx1 for 500$. this unit nearly > 10 years old. i think lexicon wants to get rid of them all in a short time. > do you think this machine is a good investment? i am not sure if the effects > are good compared to the technology nowadays. > > best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > -- Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_37609_629635.1217424626104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm ready to get rid of my mpx1 G2 guitar processor and could bring it to you on Sunday if you'd like, Erdem.  I like it a lot. 

T.



On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:
hi,
 
i have just seen that amazon sells lexicon mpx1 for 500$. this unit nearly 10 years old. i think lexicon wants to get rid of them all in a short time. do you think this machine is a good investment? i am not sure if the effects are good compared to the technology nowadays.
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8



--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com

------=_Part_37609_629635.1217424626104-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 15:01:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30D003BF1A; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2201 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:01:10 UTC Message-ID: <045901c8f24f$e995dcb0$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <00f701c8f23a$62ba4a60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Subject: Re: lexicon mpx1 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:24:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:01:11 +0000 (UTC) The effects in the MPX 1 are excellent, but the unit is larger than it would be if it were redesigned today. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:49 AM Subject: lexicon mpx1 hi, i have just seen that amazon sells lexicon mpx1 for 500$. this unit nearly 10 years old. i think lexicon wants to get rid of them all in a short time. do you think this machine is a good investment? i am not sure if the effects are good compared to the technology nowadays. best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 15:18:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C25A3BF20; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=EoMV2rn6jjhSA1qfg1iPjavvY6b4EprCNr2b7emAB3U=; b=n6hskAUpoTtkMzMApmOodOabZKFkGDpRU7O8ShIrda+MqvxHYrU+Jslu8DmBaSeJbM QSAWyupjrUtIIqqPnwxzdZca0UgsVTWjEB+tLUjbzducUNGb8Obe0YD2s5LLaryqXhNX e8YETWhCcgSB70pirt/Dso+1Uefy8nFChCyFc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qUpgEmjo6uYiFKjNekLvIquYHmw4xWR0r53OOfScL9KtUFnl3xiwVbE1ZWxim11EbW Z9wBOOg56KpdztWDrN0++ff4xi/ZOY2Y9QKGijXpyyoMWQzcYIdTEA+rw2Fnm/XdAT4g mkubZ51GmuztGD/qm3LfKSjiY+iXEuDAFGv1g= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:18:51 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: lexicon mpx1 In-Reply-To: <045901c8f24f$e995dcb0$5901a8c0@bobdell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3629_13864455.1217431131508" References: <00f701c8f23a$62ba4a60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <045901c8f24f$e995dcb0$5901a8c0@bobdell> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:18:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3629_13864455.1217431131508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I just got an MPX100. I'm not sure how it compares to the MPX1, and I haven't had the time to really try everything out, but I'm really happy with it so far. If the MPX1 is anything like the 100 (or better), it should be very nice. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > The effects in the MPX 1 are excellent, but the unit is larger than it > would be if it were redesigned today. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:49 AM > Subject: lexicon mpx1 > > > > hi, > > i have just seen that amazon sells lexicon mpx1 for 500$. this unit nearly > 10 years old. i think lexicon wants to get rid of them all in a short time. > do you think this machine is a good investment? i am not sure if the effects > are good compared to the technology nowadays. > > best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_3629_13864455.1217431131508 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I just got an MPX100. I'm not sure how it compares to the MPX1, and I haven't had the time to really try everything out, but I'm really happy with it so far.  If the MPX1 is anything like the 100 (or better), it should be very nice.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Bob Amstadt <bobld@amstadt.com> wrote:
The effects in the MPX 1 are excellent, but the unit is larger than it would be if it were redesigned today.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" <erdemhel@tnn.net>

To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:49 AM
Subject: lexicon mpx1



hi,

i have just seen that amazon sells lexicon mpx1 for 500$. this unit nearly 10 years old. i think lexicon wants to get rid of them all in a short time. do you think this machine is a good investment? i am not sure if the effects are good compared to the technology nowadays.

best.

Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8



--
-==-=-=-
Tony
------=_Part_3629_13864455.1217431131508-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 15:25:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF1253BF26; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01eb01c8f258$79299030$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: multiband compression - vst Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:25:17 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01E8_01C8F271.9DCEC860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:25:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01E8_01C8F271.9DCEC860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i am looking for a multiband compression plugin for vst. a plugin = similar to waves mastering multiband compression. will very much = appreciate the info. thanks and best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ------=_NextPart_000_01E8_01C8F271.9DCEC860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi,
 
i am looking for a multiband compression plugin for vst. a plugin = similar=20 to waves mastering multiband compression. will very much appreciate the=20 info.
 
thanks and best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
------=_NextPart_000_01E8_01C8F271.9DCEC860-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 15:38:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFCE33BF22; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=oydcZ9Nn9hndHKBxuuvW4jGI66j4tlelzynDrDDheSo=; b=EPvDJmjhVtu32S7bPFM59PGMO1v0CDI0qJTFZPy6S8sqI7oPiq2OesU0+i/krqSeW+ WCPxOElEbY7kigdbTFD4G8OgJ0nmDo96uH23ue6wcslcrqcvaMgED6B0aSmEQG9Mmmo7 K/LgeNMBxROYquKG4bq38Di4FhdO42Q9Ym888= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ucAMR+Q/Gz8claNv2Ex3k/SUkWfWsg4BTtYjAJDPRoUg11JvRNqPXx9fgepC3Eqavc QUjiKwEIlT4RCQZc3KO24w1VykHkWCoJk7u8dQHHgGV0xYn0B0o02v+dkaVzHtB/v0n2 /0vvPoxAbRPB7tR0JcprcSYPV1nz2PvadjSLg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:38:46 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: multiband compression - vst In-Reply-To: <01eb01c8f258$79299030$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4257_12782000.1217432326682" References: <01eb01c8f258$79299030$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:38:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4257_12782000.1217432326682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Try... http://www.smartelectronix.com/~magnus/ http://mda.smartelectronix.com/ both free! :) On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi, > > i am looking for a multiband compression plugin for vst. a plugin similar > to waves mastering multiband compression. will very much appreciate the > info. > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_4257_12782000.1217432326682 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Try...
http://www.smartelectronix.com/~magnus/
http://mda.smartelectronix.com/

both free! :)

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:
hi,
 
i am looking for a multiband compression plugin for vst. a plugin similar to waves mastering multiband compression. will very much appreciate the info.
 
thanks and best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8



--
-==-=-=-
Tony
------=_Part_4257_12782000.1217432326682-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 15:46:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 433A93BF1E; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=oq/ZTQjzmNRFu/R187k7DVCAUr1MP3EYI3FLjR6AjM8=; b=PgAvU3BXmRlvTP/iwfywJRr7XlBx6M9kORHgbSaQ+W9r+0OKED2zRVr52fynYsTEqw 7oyq5c6HaOy/QAwBvYWxUp0az8Bd16n0W6C5lmZz3iqSUnuyZ3mcGgtDhoJZDyOG4S6W h75K5ZrsFGW2gaZqYIlbybv69S1GBrLDmdlcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=m/qADMzD7HvQq+uxDX83BIEl/i0AVfOHrdmzkm+E/+NlDdd/OPgGLqdOICZ+zmQLoK L2VI3bnzg/uSMncJZDkAgDeVzDrDuAPnXRC3WJqVCqbOPJJRp2Rw9rpUcDctUUP4qNCB aeTkzna6N1dlaHow29Zp3q58NTs9fIPmP9Rb8= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807300846g6d5218ech98ed38d438344f43@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:46:11 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: multiband compression - vst In-Reply-To: <01eb01c8f258$79299030$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <01eb01c8f258$79299030$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi Erdem, Why looking for something "similar to Waves" when you can get the Waves? I've used the Waves mastering suite and think it is excellent. Expensive licensing these days, though... maybe that's your catch? Anyway, if speaking mastering I've heard from studio colleges I trust that the Ozone from Izotope is one of the best. http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/ozone/. There is also a Spanish mastering suite that I can't remember the name of, but a singer, composer and producer that does chart targeting pop sent me some files and took my mixes to master with that Spanish software and it sounded very good - for pop radio mix that is (a bit squashed an loud as hell, not my usual personal taste for the music I make). But the "squashed out" effect might be just his settings. Myself I do all my mastering in Logic, but usually without multi band compression since I rather work the source sound on the tracks to be mixed. But it's not always you may have control over the productional process, as getting everything separated on uniques channels, and then a multi band compressor is the way to go. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi, > > i am looking for a multiband compression plugin for vst. a plugin similar to > waves mastering multiband compression. will very much appreciate the info. > > thanks and best. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 15:57:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85FE43BF25; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=f+Mg/R7yLt+CEBRmA2j62GgXJR2ZQeFNHxCxEOLvID4=; b=O3JMOROvniln83/Xptho4d7Ho/TAgROxWpbUxYzmnYClAj+FooLCicvFO7+g2UDcUB g5+hOqL4xBqGPL36ZId654/HRh+uEYvgGpT8RkI/x2E+biL17pm/90ohrAB+0khjE17L MAQQ2OjeosHSAg9FlkTLcDLa1zfU57hzNbEv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=qVGmPX53VQqZYD9onOaD1lF3zAcJRWfigFH+guLlUdStqsi2G2eYokpVpBMbhB+JfO mzIbZPDiZUL4Vy8j7QvnFAK9yC66XcSsAZxYsMkeg6glSOv3T7Tc1OiA/6L57x2+dacG hL0ThAZhsrQbhMHWwfWBk6asaeVDtXs3M0Ffk= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807300857g54d804d8t30d15d931eea4ce5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:57:48 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: multiband compression - vst In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807300846g6d5218ech98ed38d438344f43@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <01eb01c8f258$79299030$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <66f9cc1e0807300846g6d5218ech98ed38d438344f43@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:57:50 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > There is also a Spanish > mastering suite that I can't remember the name of, FOUND IT! http://www.synthtopia.com/news/06_07/DUY_Magic_Spectrum.html Pretty inexpensive compared to TRacks and Waves. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 17:22:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D95543BF24; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:22:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:22:47 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=A1NzJVj4AAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=pAjkrSRoAAAA:8 a=vggBfdFIAAAA:8 a=s2wksWTG-Fz02DSVSZEA:9 a=Aj0U0lef1dfc6WM1QeMA:9 a=-FT5Jac0ZDQ81JTgBsAA:7 a=QNNGiSdm4FWZxD-DsbTleXK4YxUA:4 a=6bqG61NMjcsA:10 a=J5d47_HgIF0wpMQ-EucA:9 a=2nqZgXi_P9CvI6AK40oA:7 a=Alqir_dLbZ5-07hqbk3ZUj0VIRIA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 In-Reply-To: <01eb01c8f258$79299030$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> References: <01eb01c8f258$79299030$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-760348780 Message-Id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: multiband compression - vst Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:17:13 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:22:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-760348780 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Computer Music Magazine has an excellent VST that they give away for free every month. I use it and its very easy to use and is very high quality with very low drag on your cpu. On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi, > > i am looking for a multiband compression plugin for vst. a plugin > similar to waves mastering multiband compression. will very much > appreciate the info. > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/ > sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 --Apple-Mail-1-760348780 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Computer Music Magazine has an excellent VST that they give away for = free every month. I use it and its very easy to use and is very high = quality with very low drag on your cpu.=A0
On Jul 30, 2008, = at 11:25 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:

hi,
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i = am looking for a multiband compression plugin for vst. a plugin similar = to waves mastering multiband compression. will very much appreciate the = info.
=A0
thanks and = best.
=A0
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
<= a = href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu">www.myspace.com/erdemhelv= acioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered = Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the = year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com= /NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D= 8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8

= --Apple-Mail-1-760348780-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 23:02:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FCB53BF28; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=FBT8VSWxM+fdLelEyH8wkv0Kyl2kxJX2DRPEzeKR6Rs=; b=lSnxjOTiJdRA5JVvApnobyJpUBp11aDZ74FX5Hfnhbe9bytv7HkZI5qb0JL7RXac54 Nj7LFN/yEd5rF5XGZOOok9wloBh5Wt/ACxeKILGAP5Ovo5sROVJLrAZLGS2kHpnHyXLk +ciMdy1viUkKIWJJ0eEzf+knxXFIt+4CxHrqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=CFkVYJrfJHxRrXbmCjhXv02UkwOk6SehlvYYbrrFVYOV2wOuQKtKNlPSgwEbjIs6Zj UcRsLBAyDAYrNLMmKFRykc3gMdOA9n37N3cyRp6jmLg9cLvtKKtD5LflKcwe5SSVr355 PvpWb5xb7vrneGcZRP9drvOVXyjVnjyuISyxE= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0807301602k359aef88he1fc9987214dc6b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:02:23 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: Wheres my Repeater FX loop gone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33156_7053842.1217458943455" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3d1580ce5c45cdaf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:02:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_33156_7053842.1217458943455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Repeater users... Having no use the FX Inserts for a while I decided to give them a go tonight... they dont work!!! What am I doing wrong?? Simply Im pluggin send out into the input of MOFX and the output back to the return sockets... select a channel on the fron and no change... Its not getting to the MOFX at all (no level lights) Can it be bad cables? (checked the of course - anyhow shouldnt it at least CUT OUT when inserted?) Im using the new software... and check the new settings.. nothing there... HJELP!!! ??? Can someone check theres?? M.xxx -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_33156_7053842.1217458943455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Repeater users... Having no use the FX Inserts for a while I decided to give them a go tonight... they dont work!!! What am I doing wrong?? Simply Im pluggin send out into the input of MOFX and the output back to the return sockets... select a channel on the fron and no change... Its not getting to the MOFX at all (no level lights) Can it be bad cables? (checked the of course - anyhow shouldnt it at least CUT OUT when inserted?) Im using the new software... and check the new settings.. nothing there... HJELP!!! ??? Can someone check theres??

M.xxx

--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_33156_7053842.1217458943455-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 23:05:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 161F43BF33; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=bU83uCNV6rEMa/Cs2grUz+882yvC2Myj/xQUQipPiOk=; b=j5B6NCtTfECApHbkah9ZSmQACYyBdqjyb4K5o4DDx3F2uEh1489l2MiSZkci5DAHVD sCOVO5JmwA1fDgCcL2GNobNIGcttvqUAv0a8NDULLt93GxhYTE6TYNw1fYXaoDeCE175 zRNJi+RhzUo136pJZIFYL/0E34MQks7RdIpvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qaovo1o25PFdMumoIEhVx1DLiocm5CD0H+UpuTesaVuM9QiNvuhWcO+XY4OJihnOV3 ORl95CW5pplNPlO8qyHubfRYZl96HEKbf3XsXkbMZZE9z90ahECc4vJ3gbKyJQudgFZa KE2/2GdeOCiEBbcQSV2gBEgmfwWhXdSE9hJK8= Message-ID: <37f071c00807301605w53e009aeoe10baee61df9e51a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:05:24 -0700 From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Wheres my Repeater FX loop gone? In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807301602k359aef88he1fc9987214dc6b8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_67812_26967018.1217459124929" References: <9ab0c76f0807301602k359aef88he1fc9987214dc6b8@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:05:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_67812_26967018.1217459124929 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline well, if you want the FX send to work on the input, you don't choose the tracks, you just press the FX send button and it should get effected. If you want to process pre-existent tracks then you choose which track and and then press send and it will effect the chosen tracks. Does that make sense or am I completely off in reading the question? Kevin On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Repeater users... Having no use the FX Inserts for a while I decided to > give them a go tonight... they dont work!!! What am I doing wrong?? Simply > Im pluggin send out into the input of MOFX and the output back to the return > sockets... select a channel on the fron and no change... Its not getting to > the MOFX at all (no level lights) Can it be bad cables? (checked the of > course - anyhow shouldnt it at least CUT OUT when inserted?) Im using the > new software... and check the new settings.. nothing there... HJELP!!! ??? > Can someone check theres?? > > M.xxx > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_Part_67812_26967018.1217459124929 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
well, if you want the FX send to work on the input, you don't choose the tracks, you just press the FX send button and it should get effected.  If you want to process pre-existent tracks then you choose which track and and then press send and it will effect the chosen tracks.

Does that make sense or am I completely off in reading the question?

Kevin

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Repeater users... Having no use the FX Inserts for a while I decided to give them a go tonight... they dont work!!! What am I doing wrong?? Simply Im pluggin send out into the input of MOFX and the output back to the return sockets... select a channel on the fron and no change... Its not getting to the MOFX at all (no level lights) Can it be bad cables? (checked the of course - anyhow shouldnt it at least CUT OUT when inserted?) Im using the new software... and check the new settings.. nothing there... HJELP!!! ??? Can someone check theres??

M.xxx

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Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

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------=_Part_67812_26967018.1217459124929-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 23:11:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 084F43BF36; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=zN0ZeH6kGLSqZmFDlg0VM+S5AGB6+x5UJ/otTkbqLEs=; b=ufxmgwAv6SLj7Xw7xpNHUlfvivj4ZQ8IR7rTzMorKy3kujsKlW5D75RxLrVR1OvqtO D+YtpQ2L9hCP7i+Bj7B7yaj0lCaY+iGxVo3fherwStlNAt+PXRY+Xkn9qwaWoVaHmVw5 bQNRwSkqIySf91qLM+C7NSVxFngO5CBKr2FD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=JNWW/WjvJl64ssmkdwqFh1F+dJjZgEXHOz4JgloCKfYOlVeYN0JaK8EHzr5DR6pG1C diRUii4ES/5dFS/x8c6LaadXHHJEgU3YddUPt6XSrCZUz77ky5UiCDt9WJF0DAZmtjJ6 ezo3wsnJ1i6DaZKmkoc0UoM8Yt2S0xhary/ZM= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0807301611y2b6423e8y107d46d43d4f1382@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:11:16 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Wheres my Repeater FX loop gone? In-Reply-To: <37f071c00807301605w53e009aeoe10baee61df9e51a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33165_31364466.1217459476521" References: <9ab0c76f0807301602k359aef88he1fc9987214dc6b8@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00807301605w53e009aeoe10baee61df9e51a@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e7d62396f60e5ed9 Resent-Message-ID: <9V2-DB.A.TN.YUPkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:11:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_33165_31364466.1217459476521 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline makes sense, but mine isnt working !!! there is no effects on nothing when i press the FX button!! WAIT!! I tried what you said!!! Gaddamm!!!! you were righht.. Thats REAL strange... How can you tell what is REALLY got the sends connected or not... if you press the send button and THEN the track button, it lights up as if its now effected, but it isnt!!! Is this a bug, or do I get used to this???? thanks anyhoo!! m On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > well, if you want the FX send to work on the input, you don't choose the > tracks, you just press the FX send button and it should get effected. If > you want to process pre-existent tracks then you choose which track and and > then press send and it will effect the chosen tracks. > > Does that make sense or am I completely off in reading the question? > > Kevin > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM, mark francombe wrote: > >> Repeater users... Having no use the FX Inserts for a while I decided to >> give them a go tonight... they dont work!!! What am I doing wrong?? Simply >> Im pluggin send out into the input of MOFX and the output back to the return >> sockets... select a channel on the fron and no change... Its not getting to >> the MOFX at all (no level lights) Can it be bad cables? (checked the of >> course - anyhow shouldnt it at least CUT OUT when inserted?) Im using the >> new software... and check the new settings.. nothing there... HJELP!!! ??? >> Can someone check theres?? >> >> M.xxx >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.looop.no >> > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_33165_31364466.1217459476521 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
makes sense, but mine isnt working !!! there is no effects on nothing when i press the FX button!! WAIT!! I tried what you said!!! Gaddamm!!!! you were righht..
Thats REAL strange... How can you tell what is REALLY got the sends connected or not... if you press the send button and THEN the track button, it lights up as if its now effected, but it isnt!!! Is this a bug, or do I get used to this????

thanks anyhoo!!
m



On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
well, if you want the FX send to work on the input, you don't choose the tracks, you just press the FX send button and it should get effected.  If you want to process pre-existent tracks then you choose which track and and then press send and it will effect the chosen tracks.

Does that make sense or am I completely off in reading the question?

Kevin


On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Repeater users... Having no use the FX Inserts for a while I decided to give them a go tonight... they dont work!!! What am I doing wrong?? Simply Im pluggin send out into the input of MOFX and the output back to the return sockets... select a channel on the fron and no change... Its not getting to the MOFX at all (no level lights) Can it be bad cables? (checked the of course - anyhow shouldnt it at least CUT OUT when inserted?) Im using the new software... and check the new settings.. nothing there... HJELP!!! ??? Can someone check theres??

M.xxx

--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no



--

Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org



--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_33165_31364466.1217459476521-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 30 23:18:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFE153BEB6; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=TMTzwnBENYr7JVNzxUmrMEg29bxS/MkQfEPIuOvaUMU=; b=qJaeu96lp1jvbYLVVBcgt5MAmXdE7OR3I/NzC/oMBJN9XOsQLOkpPswVKev2e+uym+ WmxS+buEEQUiTAXVeAYsBlw9vcs58t9/o6gYu1m0b5ywP3VyQyoJt9lPigtGYfVJdZ1k hmZzEQ4AeNhsHPWA0MjD3bjgWG95gmCK7Sg2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=PWvTDsevCKvkNhVIgCMnaKLeXL6Kp5VO6HYtKUNg9ncIUTFzGSCg7O83y2mTzxPjMa 060epzSvKSw9Szb0+E2RJ7o7lywp7NcTcariCnHVh8dOtTTZWX7o3aZr/c6O/xsbAnUX RfVQrwfqQguX9TCd5OmL0Y6SZbmjMKls7cif8= Message-ID: <37f071c00807301618y71b82967tf319f444042940d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:18:52 -0700 From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Wheres my Repeater FX loop gone? In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807301611y2b6423e8y107d46d43d4f1382@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_67908_18432489.1217459932861" References: <9ab0c76f0807301602k359aef88he1fc9987214dc6b8@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00807301605w53e009aeoe10baee61df9e51a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0807301611y2b6423e8y107d46d43d4f1382@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-VNoU.A.Sa.dbPkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:18:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_67908_18432489.1217459932861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > > Thats REAL strange... How can you tell what is REALLY got the sends > connected or not... if you press the send button and THEN the track button, > it lights up as if its now effected, but it isnt!!! Is this a bug, or do I > get used to this???? > I think you just get used to it. If you want effects on input, just press the send button. If you want effects on pre-recorded tracks (and NOT input), you old the send and select the tracks, if you want everything effected I think you select all tracks and press send (haven't tried it in a while though). Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_Part_67908_18432489.1217459932861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Thats REAL strange... How can you tell what is REALLY got the sends connected or not... if you press the send button and THEN the track button, it lights up as if its now effected, but it isnt!!! Is this a bug, or do I get used to this????

I think you just get used to it.  If you want effects on input, just press the send button.  If you want effects on pre-recorded tracks (and NOT input), you old the send and select the tracks, if you want everything effected I think you select all tracks and press send (haven't tried it in a while though).

Kevin
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Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

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Mr. Moog himself!!! In Jersey! I also remember music class in junior high. For me these years were 1976-77 or so...the teacher played "Switched on Bach" and I remember her playing pieces of the Peer Gynt Suite, "In the Hall of the Mountain King". Freaky stuff to a developing teen boy's mind. LOL I later went on to discover Zappa, Bowie and all this other weird and wonderful prog-ambient stuff of today as well...the list goes on and on. At NEARFest this past June, Robert Moog's daughter had a vending booth and was taking donations for the Bob Moog Foundation. Apparently in his garage, they discovered many cardboard boxes filled with Mr. Moog's scribblings, notes, electronics diagrams, etc. which are in dire need of restoration. At a later date, they may make a public appearance in a museum or other such informational outlet somewhere. Check it out: http://www.moogfoundation.org/ Later, loopers! Ed in NJ http://www.myspace.com/edward_yuhas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 06:14:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0302F3BF2E; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=rUCr7ttSGFB0QQjf45JNeAQaXXNc02NRnmB/qLW6kuXDk81gvSbgomNMFYG5+nPmwWM7V4HS8BwpbOeAJRg0O0b0eDGre611hRA+58Vjj9ujjLe2golCry7mdwkUdccyptpeVNk7pl/4TJLEaOFeXJhvKPlnSfP3hW5CtYqbiGg=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:14:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: looper and pitch shifter To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <003c01c8f15f$c5bd3e00$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <722549.98785.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3QJQlD.A.6g.5gVkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Erdem what about this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEPaXtr36Ig8 you can shorter the endpoints of the loop or pitch shift it as well=20 or this wankers demo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEPaXtr36Ig8 i dont think there is a compact unit yet that does pitch shifiting and more= loops or tracks axcept perhaps the upcoming boomerang but that might be to= o bulky as well. check it out http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > From: Erdem Helvacioglu > Subject: Re: looper and pitch shifter > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 2:44 AM > hi, >=20 > the ehx is good but still big and bulky. i would like to > have a small looper pedal that can do these. that brings us > to the question of=20 >=20 > - what is the smallest, lightest looper on the market? >=20 > i occasionally loop my playing and do not depend on it. so > a small unit would work for my need perfectly. >=20 > thanks and best regards. >=20 > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion > Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About > Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Buzap Buzap=20 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:52 PM > Subject: Re: looper and pitch shifter >=20 >=20 > Hi Erdem >=20 > yes, the Electro-Harmonix 2880 is the only stand-alone > looper that I'm aware of that can do this, indeed. > Watch out for the price, however. They seem to differ > widely (should be able to find it at ca. 400$+ in USA). You > might want to take your midi foot pedal with you, since the > footpedal costs extra. >=20 > Buzap >=20 > --=20 > Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten > zu sparen!=20 > Ideal f=FCr Modem und ISDN: > http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 07:32:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4E993BF2F; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em00 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:32:23 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200807310732.m6V7WN4Z025899@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: multiband compression - vst X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 193.158.99.226 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Erdem Said: "i am looking for a multiband compression plugin for vst. a plu= gin similar to waves mastering multiband compression." =20 As always, I'll add my word of caution: if it is possible, avoid using mult= iband compression - results are usually not nice in multiple bands... Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 10:01:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4F1E3BF2C; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ed01c8f2f4$597a52f0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <200807310732.m6V7WN4Z025899@post.webmailer.de> Subject: Re: multiband compression - vst Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:01:06 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C8F30D.7E9E3100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:01:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C8F30D.7E9E3100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i use multiband compression as a dynamic eq not to squash the signal. if = used correctly as a dynamic eq, the benefits of using a multiband comp = are great, especially for electroacoustic, live electronics etc music. i have just recently mastered my new electroacoustic album this way. all = of the slightly agressive bass and high mids are very controlled right = now. also using a tube mastering eq helps alot too. best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: rs@moinlabs.de=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: multiband compression - vst Erdem Said: "i am looking for a multiband compression plugin for vst. = a plugin similar to waves mastering multiband compression." =20 As always, I'll add my word of caution: if it is possible, avoid using = multiband compression - results are usually not nice in multiple = bands... 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hi,
 
i use multiband compression as a dynamic eq not to squash the = signal. if=20 used correctly as a dynamic eq, the benefits of using a multiband comp = are=20 great, especially for electroacoustic, live electronics etc music.
 
i have just recently mastered my new electroacoustic album this = way. all of=20 the slightly agressive bass and high mids are very controlled right now. = also=20 using a tube mastering eq helps alot too.
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
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From:=20 rs@moinlabs.de
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 = 10:32=20 AM
Subject: Re: multiband = compression -=20 vst

Erdem Said: "i am looking for a multiband compression = plugin=20 for vst. a plugin similar to waves mastering multiband = compression." =20

As always, I'll add my word of caution: if it is possible, = avoid using=20 multiband compression - results are usually not nice in multiple=20 = bands...

         &nb= sp;      =20 Rainer
------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C8F30D.7E9E3100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 10:47:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35FA83BF35; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:41:33 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <489196DD.906@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:47:11 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Check out Afterglow on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/afterglowonwmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Trance Spirits" by Steve Roach and Jeffrey Fayman on Projekt Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#jul Become a friend of Galactic Travels on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. ====================================================================== All times are EDT / GMT-4 / ITZ-5. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 10:55:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82A743BF37; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 53213439 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE:moog (was ebow for piano OT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:55:06 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720A509453@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RE:moog (was ebow for piano OT) Thread-Index: Acjy++REOgb/atObQG27sRrmILmSGQ== References: From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2008 10:55:06.0242 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4624E20:01C8F2FB] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1Py6TC.A.TcF.MoZkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:55:08 +0000 (UTC) >>At NEARFest this past June, Robert Moog's daughter had a vending booth and was taking donations for the Bob Moog Foundation. Apparently in his garage, they discovered many cardboard boxes filled with Mr. Moog's scribblings, notes, electronics diagrams, etc. which are in dire need of restoration. At a later date, they may make a public appearance in a museum or other such informational outlet somewhere.<< I saw this too, & wanted to grab a few minutes with michelle, but somehow it didn't happen. instead I silently dedicated a few minimoog notes to her during our set.... :-) I have one of the last signature theremins, which were tuned by dr robert himself. some of what they found is 1/4" tapes, which made me wish I was in the US & not the UK, as I would gladly start trawling through these tapes & round up enough bits to do a moog-equivalent of the raymond scott "manhattan research" package.... 1/4" reformatting & restoration is a bit of a hobby of mine. oh well. duncan. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 11:00:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 242F33BF2D; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: cg00 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:00:20 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200807311100.m6VB0Kpi019828@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: Re: multiband compression - vst X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 193.158.99.226 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:00:22 +0000 (UTC) "if used correctly as a dynamic eq, the benefits of using a multiband comp = are great, especially for electroacoustic, live electronics etc music."=20 Multiband compressors have the habit of affecting a signal in ways that are= very unnatural (meaning: do not have anything to do with the way things so= unds or how we hear them). In addition to non-harmonic distortion present i= n every kind of dynamic processor, multiband compression induces odd phase = shifts which in turn and among other things affect localization in ways st= rongly dependant on the listening environment (and for that reason a master= ing engineer's worst nightmare). There has been that tendency in contemporary amateur signal editing to alwa= ys use multiband compression, especially on the vulnerable 2bus, in cases w= here the wanted effect could be much better achieved by proper use of EQ an= d fullrange compression, both on the 2bus and, more importantly, on individ= ual tracks, without the unwanted side effects and, what's more, a much more= intuitive relationship between device parameters and result. Yes, there are rare cases (mostly poor-quality two-track recordings of elec= troacoustic live sources) where a multiband compressor can help a lot, simp= ly because its negative side effects are acceptable compared to the result = if you didn't use it. See it as the chemotherapy of audio processing. Fortu= nately, these cases are rare. "also using a tube mastering eq helps alot too." Which kind of EQ, and which kind of converters before and after it are you = using? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 11:35:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D5683BF3D; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1DeIk2bmOoeugFD_q44A:9 a=xzAkS8Haq5r_o-Bi-X0A:7 a=RBo6buD91qgxC7Z3iVOQ5ZldKuIA:4 a=tyFau8m7W3IA:10 a=f3vTY2RCmVgA:10 In-Reply-To: <200807311100.m6VB0Kpi019828@post.webmailer.de> References: <200807311100.m6VB0Kpi019828@post.webmailer.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0071DFF2-2195-4075-8995-554582A1356C@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: multiband compression - vst Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:35:26 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <-ZwvYC.A.YLG.AOakIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:35:29 +0000 (UTC) If it sounds good, do it. I use the Apple AU multiband quite a bit. It absolutely reins in wayward audio, which helps a great deal. Especially when live looping when you don't have the benefit of getting the perfect mix. We have enough to do. On Jul 31, 2008, at 7:00 AM, rs@moinlabs.de wrote: > "if used correctly as a dynamic eq, the benefits of using a > multiband comp are great, especially for electroacoustic, live > electronics etc music." > > Multiband compressors have the habit of affecting a signal in ways > that are very unnatural (meaning: do not have anything to do with > the way things sounds or how we hear them). In addition to non- > harmonic distortion present in every kind of dynamic processor, > multiband compression induces odd phase shifts which in turn and > among other things affect localization in ways strongly dependant > on the listening environment (and for that reason a mastering > engineer's worst nightmare). > > There has been that tendency in contemporary amateur signal editing > to always use multiband compression, especially on the vulnerable > 2bus, in cases where the wanted effect could be much better > achieved by proper use of EQ and fullrange compression, both on the > 2bus and, more importantly, on individual tracks, without the > unwanted side effects and, what's more, a much more intuitive > relationship between device parameters and result. > > Yes, there are rare cases (mostly poor-quality two-track recordings > of electroacoustic live sources) where a multiband compressor can > help a lot, simply because its negative side effects are acceptable > compared to the result if you didn't use it. See it as the > chemotherapy of audio processing. Fortunately, these cases are rare. > > "also using a tube mastering eq helps alot too." > > Which kind of EQ, and which kind of converters before and after it > are you using? > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 12:02:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10DF43BF41; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: OT 100 top freeware plugins Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:02:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:02:29 +0000 (UTC) For those who wish to process their looping in the computer environment, the UK's COMPUTER MUSIC magazine has a special edition this month called 100 TOP FREEWARE PLUGINS. The magazine that comes with it has a bunch of tutorials on how to use them. They put a tremendous amount of time, effort and thought into this edition. I run a site at tribe.net called Audio Plugin Junkies that is devoted to freeware and shareware plugins and this is an incredible collection for both Mac and PC users. There is everything from free DAWs, free Sound Editors, free VST plugins, free VSTi synths. Most things are for PC but there is a lot of cool Mac stuff too. It's just an amazing collection of stuff with a lot of information. Anyone who wants to get into computer music production has all the tools they want to use...........all for the cost of the magazine which was about $18 USD. What a world we live in!!! This is a truly amazing edition of this magazine. (I bought it, by the way and have no affiliation with the magazine whatsoever, so this is not a commercial announcement) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 13:51:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6C5E3BF40; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:50:56 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Jim and I are super-proud to announce the release of our new duo CD, entitled Night Blooming Cereus. The title comes from a flower which only blooms once a year, at night. Our engineer (Pete Caigan, who rules) had this flower at his house close by the studio, and on the night of our tracking day, excitedly brought us inside to show off the bloom which happened to be flowering at that instant. It seemed to have a parallel to our rarely-together existence. It's on the whole more meditative and quiet than our live shows have been, for whatever reason. Personally, I love it and consider it one of the best recordings I've been a part of. Samples and stuff here (it'll be on iTunes and eMusic in a few weeks): http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From br.rebecca01@gmail.com Thu Jul 31 14:33:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 598 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:33:22 UTC Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.197]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F06A3BF3A for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19853 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2008 14:23:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO User) (sarahlander@btinternet.com@41.219.222.29 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2008 14:23:17 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: XapEPYgVM1lnae4k6iN3ElTF4lwn2vvL_FuWaXJsCAq.EYNKsKmxjuZE5G4P1_GXEYURFIeB5E75ExFzb8iwuYB01O7_hIDiN0LRu4tdSQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Reply-To: From: "SISTER REBECCA BRIGGS" Subject: PLEASE ENDEAVOUR TO USE IT FOR THE CHILDREN OF GOD. Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:27:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20080731143322.8F06A3BF3A@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; From: Sister Rebecca Briggs Contact email: br.rebecca01@gmail.com Centre De Sante Bethesda Hospital Minerva House, Oxford Science Park, Edmund Halley Road, Oxford, OX4 4DQ , England Dearest in the Lord, I am Sister Rebecca Briggs from United Kingdom. A Widow to Late Rev. John Briggs who worked with British Council in India for nine years before he died in the year 2004.We were married for eleven years without a child. He died after a brief illness that lasted for only four days. Before his death we were both born again Christians. Since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bible is against.When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of (12.5Million U.S. Dollars)with one of the Bank in United Kingdom. Presently, this money is still with the Bank. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next three months due to cancer problem.Though what disturbs me most is my stroke Having known my condition I decided to donate this fund to church or better still a christian individual that will utilize this money the way I am going to instruct here in. I want a church that will use this fund to churches, orphanages and widows propagating the word of God and to ensure that the house of God is maintained. The Bible made us to understand that Blessed is the hand that giveth. I took this decision because I don't have any child that will inherit this money and my husband relatives are not Christians and I don't want my husband's hard earned money to be misused by unbelievers. I don't want a situation where this money will be used in an ungodly manner. Hence the reason for taking this bold decision. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am going. I know that I am going to be in the bossom of the Lord. Exodus 14 VS 14 says that the lord will fight my case and I shall hold my peace. I don't need any telephone communication in this regard because of the presence of my husband's relatives around me always. I don't want them to know about this development. With God all things are possible. As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the Bank in United Kingdom. I will also issue you a letter of authority that will empower you as the original- beneficiary of this fund. I want you and the church to always pray for me because the lord is my shephard. My happiness is that I lived a life of a worthy Christian. Who ever that wants to serve the Lord must serve him in spirit and truth.Please always be prayerful all through your life. any delay in your reply will give me room in searching for a church or christian individual for this same purpose. Please assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated herein. Hoping to hearing from you. Remain blessed in the name of the Lord. Yours in Christ. Sister Rebecca Briggs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 14:46:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6710D3BF47; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1801 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:46:26 UTC Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:16:50 -0300 From: Andrew Duke Subject: link re: OT 100 top freeware plugins In-reply-to: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4891C952.1020104@andrew-duke.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhkBAHhmkUhHB/NT/2dsb2JhbAAIixamRQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,287,1215399600"; d="scan'208";a="273661592" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 SeaMonkey/1.0.2 Resent-Message-ID: <_GOyRD.A.oMC.CBdkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > For those who wish to process their looping in the computer > environment, the UK's COMPUTER MUSIC magazine has a > special edition this month called 100 TOP FREEWARE PLUGINS. Here's a link for anyone who can't find it in their local magazine shop: http://www.myfavouritemagazines.co.uk/store/displayitem.asp?sid=424&id=23475 > > The magazine that comes with it has a bunch of tutorials on how to use > them. > They put a tremendous amount of time, effort and thought into this > edition. > I run a site at tribe.net called Audio Plugin Junkies that is devoted to > freeware and shareware plugins and this is an incredible collection for > both Mac and PC users. > > There is everything from free DAWs, free Sound Editors, free VST > plugins, > free VSTi synths. Most things are for PC but there is a lot of cool > Mac stuff too. > > It's just an amazing collection of stuff with a lot of information. > > Anyone who wants to get into computer music production has all the tools > they want to use...........all for the cost of the magazine which > was about $18 USD. > > What a world we live in!!! This is a truly amazing edition of this > magazine. > (I bought it, by the way and have no affiliation with the magazine > whatsoever, > so this is not a commercial announcement) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 16:41:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C6003BF45; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=5+R8eahb38cDQoKbj77D3MrVPV/yG9dLrWFHAenorF4=; b=WsZSqQcdm0ekkMP610TkKnVe5oezt7hurOYWsj9DFsLJ9wP0ctLRbunzyd4tamTkzV o17mAuflkYg1zDQw+SqDMdIRc0+bDwlykFH9KESfv2CQwyeY29Hj8MYOBH+h+0lZa9ZN sly41trOZzIl8LYix+Dw49tY2AT7HgoSz1ylA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=vwUI4FdgYXdxHiyc5Teb6cNKEP1Lm62IdjSeTCfbfc0yFq+bN4uQuo/6/njQqqh0Dn 4xb3HjMKWJJY0jckH6UczfHbv1Z6Ld2EwFBLi087qIWmd6MYTPWcU/qIsA14/jaVCnGU +/JmiJFqXRlCOtr3TLJvojZuJnmXe8FTnJGmE= Message-ID: <588ce11d0807310941m70514c4bs635f8450254c28e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:41:16 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: link re: OT 100 top freeware plugins In-Reply-To: <4891C952.1020104@andrew-duke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C952.1020104@andrew-duke.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_vas9B.A.kNE.xsekIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Nice Link, Thanks! On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Andrew Duke wrote: > Rick Walker wrote: >> >> For those who wish to process their looping in the computer >> environment, the UK's COMPUTER MUSIC magazine has a >> special edition this month called 100 TOP FREEWARE PLUGINS. > > Here's a link for anyone who can't find it in their local magazine shop: > http://www.myfavouritemagazines.co.uk/store/displayitem.asp?sid=424&id=23475 > >> >> The magazine that comes with it has a bunch of tutorials on how to use >> them. >> They put a tremendous amount of time, effort and thought into this >> edition. >> I run a site at tribe.net called Audio Plugin Junkies that is devoted to >> freeware and shareware plugins and this is an incredible collection for >> both Mac and PC users. >> >> There is everything from free DAWs, free Sound Editors, free VST >> plugins, >> free VSTi synths. Most things are for PC but there is a lot of cool Mac >> stuff too. >> >> It's just an amazing collection of stuff with a lot of information. >> >> Anyone who wants to get into computer music production has all the tools >> they want to use...........all for the cost of the magazine which >> was about $18 USD. >> >> What a world we live in!!! This is a truly amazing edition of this >> magazine. >> (I bought it, by the way and have no affiliation with the magazine >> whatsoever, >> so this is not a commercial announcement) > > -- Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 17:05:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FED43BF43; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006601c8f32f$a6db46e0$6901a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C952.1020104@andrew-duke.com> <588ce11d0807310941m70514c4bs635f8450254c28e8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: link re: OT 100 top freeware plugins Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:05:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rick! I just ordered...not that I need any more VSTs, but you never know. I have been letting more VSTs back into my max/msp system lately, and controlling them randomly. Great fun, especially with my PSP84 and Filter. I have a patch that randomly selects VST presets, and then randomly alters select parameters. The problem is that some of the poorly written VSTs do not allow MIDI learning so that I can quickly target parameters. Kris > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Andrew Duke > wrote: >> Rick Walker wrote: >>> >>> For those who wish to process their looping in the computer >>> environment, the UK's COMPUTER MUSIC magazine has a >>> special edition this month called 100 TOP FREEWARE PLUGINS. >> >> Here's a link for anyone who can't find it in their local magazine shop: >> http://www.myfavouritemagazines.co.uk/store/displayitem.asp?sid=424&id=23475 >> >>> >>> The magazine that comes with it has a bunch of tutorials on how to use >>> them. >>> They put a tremendous amount of time, effort and thought into this >>> edition. >>> I run a site at tribe.net called Audio Plugin Junkies that is devoted to >>> freeware and shareware plugins and this is an incredible collection for >>> both Mac and PC users. >>> >>> There is everything from free DAWs, free Sound Editors, free VST >>> plugins, >>> free VSTi synths. Most things are for PC but there is a lot of cool >>> Mac >>> stuff too. >>> >>> It's just an amazing collection of stuff with a lot of information. >>> >>> Anyone who wants to get into computer music production has all the tools >>> they want to use...........all for the cost of the magazine which >>> was about $18 USD. >>> >>> What a world we live in!!! This is a truly amazing edition of this >>> magazine. >>> (I bought it, by the way and have no affiliation with the magazine >>> whatsoever, >>> so this is not a commercial announcement) >> >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@null.net > art.simon.tripod.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > From newsletter@up0.net Thu Jul 31 18:18:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1214 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:18:31 UTC Received: from mail35.up0.net (mail35.up0.net [208.66.205.27]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798C93BF44 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:18:30 +0000 (UTC) To: Subject: Wall Street Journal Analyst Awards this 30 cent Stock A 4 dollar Price Target Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:58:16 -0700 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s_a; d=up0.net; b=QLYQsBgftRpdW9npc1CyMWVm+MSRuQxmEvj/ZwIuEoAcvdN8UWHnewdPTf4q3TacFPkxoaG9no6rTYWHpP9cGQ==; h=Reply-To:MIME-Version:From X-Delivery: Level 0 Reply-To: reply-5470@up0.net List-Unsubscribe: Content-description: 318001c43blooparc@loopers-delight.com!155e!2f5b3!a2c9a!hc0.arg! 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To remove yourself from this list, click here http://vrstrt.com/u/U9iYUUVt5yYPXZjkgXwOMA.html or write to us at: 25399 The Old Road, Unit 13507 Stevenson Ranch, CA 91381 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 20:09:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0B383BF48; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:09:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ALuZsM/l0avkRZvjlpAVQ7U3ZWDWk6sSo9ckSqO++Qo=; b=GVXT2HnEFjpjwjSv3EQ7HzTk+S3m16d5j5+5ZzZLiLmd46/EvXcpGpaX12g0ks4Gu9 7SSXNOvELCb5fX0IOV1GIEE9La9v2rvY1M2/6/sV3KXwqKtSxGt1CI3qTtVk7EBrftny xJbV9IDhnSi3EI+Z067lW6IE5n1OvWpODJ5+Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=UTHjE5dd+nc2u2tvhf2hE6h+KoTPuj8pqbYiXJkdSZp6/ceMZt96YfErFtrkm7UXZx uZekRNW9EPmwjiK+H9YWZUoxD0/XYKMCLAnqKWdvY1C0vsTBmhURRVfkVMhR+n7Wc2tT UgKk0bx46UML4VU5rWKUts3JBPaFwuj98qmZw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807311309j5555b6ebqd562b2aa9848db0f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:09:27 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: link re: OT 100 top freeware plugins In-Reply-To: <006601c8f32f$a6db46e0$6901a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C952.1020104@andrew-duke.com> <588ce11d0807310941m70514c4bs635f8450254c28e8@mail.gmail.com> <006601c8f32f$a6db46e0$6901a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:09:28 +0000 (UTC) I was counting how many plug-ins I am using in my big livelooping setup: 13. That's all I want and all I need. Anything I want to do is possible with these few, but sharp, tools. A better way to find suitable plug-ins, than buying 100 to try out, is to log on to a couple fora and hear what people are recommending for your specific needs. Then get what you need and put your energy into becoming good at using them. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 20:37:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E34513BF4A; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zyI+lmjtmcJv7MzB7jGtoVey+B3fta8SJWTcUsGZCxU=; b=am6fwQAYKjdlLcoefY/O7nwAziqw9YAz7DiYAk5y6v3l04MLB2kwaf1DktkE79tLzL ILboRxW1K7+JZ0ts+XxF0Yb8Os9Rr3V6MxWE1Ea5lu7Ajrtuf+4bCglrvvkIllFC0RyY fVN/GcKwPRgVl12cXDew1wsSvH9B0EvEgxtpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Hy08492jECFiVh5z+38HiMTnl8aB2y7H7AKja24pfZo2eFi05wJmX8xj4KigSfk/y8 X6AOKKBRzbMtx08eEItSGr85eLYbxGd3wf74JWLR28Ks+lc6waXqbylyOSzSGVVfm+qD I4XIqJBmFcnUCwDk+dVUqH3oT5U0axuEdFqYI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807311337v5cb41f0fg7bbc106bf1786dc4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:37:48 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus In-Reply-To: <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_105075_9877581.1217536668721" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:37:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_105075_9877581.1217536668721 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm > Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those clips. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen ------=_Part_105075_9877581.1217536668721 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm


Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those clips.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen

------=_Part_105075_9877581.1217536668721-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 20:42:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8B193BF42; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=hg7h2vgtu/bz6n7HYnMrLb8XFtn+CImkDNTXizRcaX4=; b=EkEl8foYPqH/Ie9l/yg6ExEVTJ3UffE8e2xomTy5MTviYqZnosGWmtJwvARCExmhQP m5/09rH7BF6FdIoBomJfMwMrBeg48tCScyTWeIakdxJwzAplflzeqTcKWS7wVAPu/dKN PfX2WtNs+vB2A+PuNvFiDYkf+dV+owcETX8H4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=GAiNQrI6CstdhH7aGg2w4gBxxI6oYe2aqANyqAI+CDA/yHAGSmZepa0HZIMwFoVeXA 7VCeHsaQU31MHeuSDz19JGc5VbLyfbx347pNSK+VAgL/+IscxazRPFP26Dyb1qgGxFr9 rR3yvUAXwxiJBzAyKrO6tFsNIh+GYUKdDePlw= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807311342v270eb8d2lbf724acae229627f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:42:20 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0807311337v5cb41f0fg7bbc106bf1786dc4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_94834_30650969.1217536940036" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0807311337v5cb41f0fg7bbc106bf1786dc4@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:42:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_94834_30650969.1217536940036 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record. Appreciate you taking time to give an electronic spin. Best Jim On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > >> >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm >> > > > Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those > clips. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_94834_30650969.1217536940036 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record.  Appreciate you taking time to give an electronic spin.
 
Best
 
Jim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm


Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those clips.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_94834_30650969.1217536940036-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 20:50:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D41063BF4F; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=3aK01ShBgEwmSK+KHRYBNjHHfHYifNd8yVJwg54CusI=; b=Xx4OwmSW+ICSgq8qLCHVM+A1SSIjJQqEsV33M2irknXm7AW4V2FXsI8Ohm+9P6yUvn fIF+brAFReYGVTAcF08iSOiVH04JA23NMYPVVAtDngMjw4fYCMApAnOG0rVm7/sYovjM y2ytq22OYnkS5wnmY8Nn7cRHP68k+S1Lzq9Ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=QjVYanjiD0A+k0RoXB9oL5x2aKUychZ1HXQxQo5xftOhGdLRECcfBNtuunzZ1c8oHE IMspAZtvQhmuF2po/gzhHeDSoLciAYFfWz4RxaBLL2Q6efW3cxe70DhSob0+Kv98F2X1 oEQoOU77NHGyQFyOVjrcewUkt87YYza5rusGQ= Message-ID: <9e0440a60807311350t4587f107pce73c71066ce5907@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:50:21 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: More from Chinapainting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_94936_26076352.1217537421268" Resent-Message-ID: <831mfB.A.EjC.OWikIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:50:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_94936_26076352.1217537421268 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Along with Daryl's mention of our new record let me mention one video I uploaded to YouTube a bit ago from the first show of this tour. It was here in Brooklyn last Saturday at a wine bar/performance space called the Stain. Over the next few days I'll post a few more clips from this show as well as the one at ABC No Rio on Sunday and hopefully some from Boston with Dennis, Tim and Rob. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWfhBtqHsXg On this clip drummer/found percussionist and collab on other projects of mine, *Will Romano* joined us as a special guest. It's really great and inspiring having Chinapainting live in the same locale again these few days. Best folks Jim -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_94936_26076352.1217537421268 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Along with Daryl's mention of our new record let me mention one video I uploaded to YouTube a bit ago from the first show of this tour.  It was here in Brooklyn last Saturday at a wine bar/performance space called the Stain.  Over the next few days I'll post a few more clips from this show as well as the one at ABC No Rio on Sunday and hopefully some from Boston with Dennis, Tim and Rob.
 
 
On this clip drummer/found percussionist and collab on other projects of mine, Will Romano joined us as a special guest.
 
It's really great and inspiring having Chinapainting live in the same locale again these few days.
 
Best folks
 
Jim

--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_94936_26076352.1217537421268-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 21:16:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C13F3BF52; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:16:34 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=hda8ovAcy/WckN0JIOmZ6He0CE4k3Yw3dWJVZe3BrUccHKwQUDrxQcLrnaAoQHGnrVlr0DeXafO8kuZnjjwSnUhKnsu/5+U1cfd7S7HJLhjzbssWCdK4iDLE46b/oo710RD9flNItKHY5UlSvYMh4Aq88+EsXeD2WA7belNZ6qs= ; X-YMail-OSG: TxJd2.MVM1k4XTNV52opd7rrL5Mf9qBOdAK.qeyCGPdo5FAOUXCo4c.Ntz2E7Rl8Te3I8_Y90Ih2oT3dP85Gx0akYddDhobsnkUNLzx7bolMlRLRIRa_97WXBfanUaR36BmPu0fRLaBeF4GbY.buYdl0x8VCG.l2iZLYtYp0uJ09jgVtf1A- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003701c8f351$c66b23f0$4101a8c0@STUDIO1> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0807311337v5cb41f0fg7bbc106bf1786dc4@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807311342v270eb8d2lbf724acae229627f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:09:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8F35A.25EC2BA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <5d46RC.A.noD.zuikIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:16:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8F35A.25EC2BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Enjoyed the clips also! Good work. Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record. = Appreciate you taking time to give an electronic spin. Best Jim On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen = wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn = wrote: http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in = those clips. --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel = Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.8/1582 - Release Date: = 30/07/2008 18:37 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8F35A.25EC2BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Enjoyed the clips also!
 
Good work.
 
Ricky
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 = 9:42=20 PM
Subject: Re: New Chinapainting = release -=20 Night Blooming Cereus

Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this = record. =20 Appreciate you taking time to give an electronic spin.
 
Best
 
Jim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl = Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm


Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments = in those=20 clips.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se = (Swedish)
www.looproom.com=20 (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen

<= /DIV>

--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= BR>MySpace=20 (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jim= goodinmusic
Chinapainting=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.= com
Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
http://www.myspace= .com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /A>=20
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull=20 Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= Jim=20 Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

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------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C8F35A.25EC2BA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 21:26:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DEA93BF54; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=2yufHDj5l9gYClKivfwl822nBq0YhOFHCMGdra27Kog=; b=PeecqxAmQa6du/VUqrmiA4ZtHMBIODEdvSxYdrHGvLIEfW7/M8mBTWVwftWDhgu0lp Ru3t/YAHY+u0Pw34ZBCYxI+933p2ERIzVqOYv2fOrk4g6AMcAWJbNdq69XyQv1dr++Iw A7y8Zr6CA51QeyCtPtJd6kEUaJpdSwU69MAzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=x12GyajVXpZ2a3h4CDmn5ecfgBTRaFDA1ZoE9yPx/lij43xivrdH40PteELmlY9Lxn 7S7Pu/nzOro9oDICu0IKNu0p1EYUFM5/TkCPUq5MXvLXDmyEKaqjtK8jQ4QRDpBgAH05 e3svL2WZCdu59TFHZS40nQrLAnkZkmkLhlsNQ= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:26:25 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_91399_7359845.1217539585122" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:26:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_91399_7359845.1217539585122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! ------=_Part_91399_7359845.1217539585122 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! 
------=_Part_91399_7359845.1217539585122-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 21:28:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9C5E3BF58; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7NP3n4oIDgu95Npr+qMu31nF5+D8RdwGJe+kAKNQZdY=; b=XFUFtLR7Uqdonlu6R9kj66ibQHCTufDWdRCbAAoncyYMT0Na0KKtDNoHRIlvNhioly j+BYCEBJTUixH0APZEDQBoYX/HZ/DaR7dO+Laues/tzsf0kOLh97j4hwcTb8/5Gvq35Z jvqnchDykpZ0pYjdPwJhLZCQaMz41oU9NJPac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jclrmvgY+VsxtpT2wtFK0gSY8Q4DrWQ5E1RuvHw4I46acoffwzVYZVEhF190aqcD58 3JGm3+3LdSOPO65ncrgWBGwiqXQTqaIXgFs+6VwxZ7ufRR5202c+s24HBsF2uUpLh9md 3ZKXhJ0/UfFc7/dYagmSZ+27cyfLuZ49Q74os= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00807311428o4dddaa1ap930537a8a05f63bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:28:11 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_124547_13392324.1217539691771" References: Resent-Message-ID: <4pjJAB.A.pJE.t5ikIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:28:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_124547_13392324.1217539691771 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Any midi controller should work, I think. Another perk to an alternate midi controller is that you can trigger a lot of functions that aren't accessible with the gibson controller. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes > with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! > ------=_Part_124547_13392324.1217539691771 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Any midi controller should work, I think.

Another perk to an alternate midi controller is that you can trigger a lot of functions that aren't accessible with the gibson controller.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! 

------=_Part_124547_13392324.1217539691771-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 21:30:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27B663BF57; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1wcOPPtMGezDe+VR1HXa9H8/deAtRiCV+9EUTrmLewk=; b=M76+aIqWQ2TpjKCFzeszgaejh7cRYP15ILd6vjAoOZfn9S5ImYBCwxaTkzZRcKvhqN SVygJ0aSkuMt4MDd0JmUG7PR5SY+/oYczQ/EVh8XCwvW1GAmwRgMYiGz+ojK7EM4nAHO EYKJbBSVWPE8Mo0xztavFmyoTSuJo11np9HO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=UZNLNrvqWxEZZJKAmixHpwmZw4j5WNTmm8tFPzozp24o7B1ar7J14JczM48aeTF+ho SQvL3TaEwNr9Y5JG3Z60bh28WBbgpSj9Cq+rTjgmPO8vnBBDGbzpJEedioT/6r6c4Ptx vQRL7I3Xuc9+o70PZQq+fGwE3tEJAjs48ldrQ= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0807311430k7b5ac344p3cf91c7464ae7c5a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:30:14 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_105730_4299678.1217539814860" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:30:15 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_105730_4299678.1217539814860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes > with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! > Yes. Anything that sends MIDI can be used. Or CV at the proper voltage levels (don't recalling them right now, but they are found in this lists archives many times around) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen ------=_Part_105730_4299678.1217539814860 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! 


Yes. Anything that sends MIDI can be used. Or CV at the proper voltage levels (don't recalling them right now, but they are found in this lists archives many times around)

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------=_Part_105730_4299678.1217539814860-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 31 23:55:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B77263BF5C; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=CvTJ9dkkR2h12o34i5tJ2fSCydZy58ILQAAqFhdpxvY=; b=Pde5jGgX7LuiM3jiuCuBk3n2YK+wJ8w0yqAZqD+BpEFrHhofU7ZNwi06hiqp6f91da 3+WM88NnbKAnIPJAwbMBmUPPkNiUtzluTEP6NEGZDUTAfoBt4TvtKOKvEs7gwnPVekQp PD47xtq8uLcOOp5n9ruBgnDDJ4ZKdD29LllJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=f0Mdzv8uP823r0hwlKejf2OKiqkr8G7j8dYZSpv5kAMZoYhPSZ7Q/5IgMbeTwcIgOc haAwxhG8S1VNLhMMyKqVmGaQOLncnHsGgkr+zxRdtnxqqtlFwnL3Y38qV7N3RVb+3wmj LtFYmEpLYoCENAshRiPlfs2YHm2yt6Hfxw9yQ= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:55:47 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_42691_15401187.1217548547470" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4abb5ca4b2e38809 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:55:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_42691_15401187.1217548547470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. thank you very much! .m.x On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes > with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_42691_15401187.1217548547470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. thank you very much!

.m.x

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! 



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On 22 Jul 2008, = at 06:20, Krispen Hartung wrote:

Here's mine:
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Flyloops=20 can do pitch shifting too ..... there are little +1 SEMITONE, -! = SEMITONE=20 buttons on the "tweek speed" panel.  You click that button a few = times=20 til you get it up to where you want to shift (4 semitones, say, for a = major=20 third) and then click the loop track you want to shift by that amount. =

You can also click the "tonal shifting" checkbox and then turn = a midi=20 control knob to shift the pitch only by semitones. 

I = should note=20 that this is a frequency shifter, not a pitch shiftier though ... so = it speeds=20 up playback.  If the loops are set to sync (default), they will = repeat=20 early to stay in time with the master.

See the screenshot and=20 interactive demo at: http://www.flyloops.com/demo/
If you have a PC, = download=20 here:  http://www.flyloops.com/download.htm

wait = about a=20 week and there should be a video on semitonal frequency shifting on = the=20 webpage too ....  I'm a bit overdue for that = one.



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Sent: Wednesday, July = 09, 2008=20 12:25 PM
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Subject: Re: = pitch=20 shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)

thanks, Kris, = anxiously await! 

please just make sure I can understand = your ins=20 and outs, being the non max expert that I am, as you know...=20 !

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 5 14:04:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A5843BE91; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5328 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:04:43 UTC Message-ID: <975C0CF6D1284C909AF0D6B614721AEE@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <029d01c8de02$3a4f8550$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:35:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8DEA4.09CE7FB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/81869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:04:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8DEA4.09CE7FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Of those who were in Boise I suppose? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 19:17 PM Subject: BEMF-3 Photos and MP3s I'm starting to post a fair amount of photos and MP3s now of the 3rd = Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. If you're interested, all are = here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/BEMF-3/images&sound.htm I will continue too add more in the next week or two. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C8DEA4.09CE7FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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